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Nibu Raphael
03-19-06, 17:48
What Happened to The Nibu in Illinois section?
Hey Guy's you have posting some awesome reports.
But I'm worried about you guys with BBBJ reports please switch to CBJ's. I don't want you die for a 20 dollar set of lips! It's just not worth it!
Sorry if I offended anyone.
CT Michelle
07-23-06, 00:44
I couldnt agree more, usally girls that agree to do BBBJ have nothing to loose, i have worked in this business for over 3 years and if you knew what i knew you would never do it.
Hey Guy's you have posting some awesome reports.
But I'm worried about you guys with BBBJ reports please switch to CBJ's. I don't want you die for a 20 dollar set of lips! It's just not worth it!
Sorry if I offended anyone.
Nibu Raphael
07-28-06, 12:10
Hows The Theater Going??? I have not stopped in there for Ages Now since I go sometimes to The Melrose Park Adult Theater. Yes No Dancers there but At least Swingers Action happens there.....
I couldnt agree more, usally girls that agree to do BBBJ have nothing to loose, i have worked in this business for over 3 years and if you knew what i knew you would never do it.
CT Michelle
08-01-06, 02:53
From what i hear the theater is hit of miss. I know things slow down for the summer so maybe with kids going back to school soon things will pick up.
Michelle
Hows The Theater Going??? I have not stopped in there for Ages Now since I go sometimes to The Melrose Park Adult Theater. Yes No Dancers there but At least Swingers Action happens there.....
Nibu Raphael
08-01-06, 06:55
And What Happened to Her Michelle????
From what i hear the theater is hit of miss. I know things slow down for the summer so maybe with kids going back to school soon things will pick up.
Michelle
Why is that Mongering is so damn addicting?
CT Michelle
08-31-06, 13:17
Since i dont work at Ct's i dont always know what goes on right away like i used to but i do still have enough contacts to catch up on the gossip. I first read here that Star and Heather got into it one day. Then i talked to one of the girls and yes there was some friction for some time and Star decided to leave Ct's. I know that she may come back girls usally do only leave for a short time, I will let everyone know.
CtMichelle
And What Happened to Her Michelle????
I don't know if you guys ever check the other boards, but the Philadelphia board is an extremely active board with some great reports and pics. The funnies part is there is a lot of people that don't believe some of the stories. So a new thread was started called Fight Club. The 2 main contributors are CookyJar and Ed Norton. Their rants, raves and escapades are hilarious and they are listed in different parts of the Philadelphia section. Make sure you check out the pics too!
Anyways the reason I bring this up, is CookyJar has promised his best report this evening in the general reports section in Philly.
It should be entertaining!
E-
There's NBC Dateline, "Catch A Predator" show going on right now (started at CST 8PM). Not sure if any other mongrels are watching it or not.. it's scary - they got all these guys through on-line chat forums, invited them to house in suburbs of CA as a 13 year old girl who's home alone, were recording all the conversation with hidden cameras. And then finally NBC's Chris Hansen comes out and tells them they are on camera. And when they are leaving cops catch them.
Those people are crying.. scared out of shit.. man, being on national TV and cops and reporters have all the evidence - damn.. what can they do?
I am feeling bad for them... don't get me wrong - child porn is wrong and these guys were idiots to fell in trap but getting caught in from of millions of people is so freakin' embarrassing.
Watch out fellows!
Edone,
Thanks for pointing to Phili forum. Wow!
Some great pics and good humour. Look at some awesome/funny pics.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=470974&postcount=1271
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=467555&postcount=1193
After going through all the above pics and many others.. I have started thinking - may be we all should move to Phili ;)
I don't know if you guys ever check the other boards, but the Philadelphia board is an extremely active board with some great reports and pics. The funnies part is there is a lot of people that don't believe some of the stories. So a new thread was started called Fight Club. The 2 main contributors are CookyJar and Ed Norton. Their rants, raves and escapades are hilarious and they are listed in different parts of the Philadelphia section. Make sure you check out the pics too!
Anyways the reason I bring this up, is CookyJar has promised his best report this evening in the general reports section in Philly.
It should be entertaining!
E-
GoldenGreek
11-02-06, 01:20
How do you become a senior member? I have more posts than certain senior members--does it have to do with legnth of time as a member also? Just curious.
Not necessarily the number of posts, but the quality. You can ask Jackson to make you a Senior Member. He does that every few months or so. Sometimes it's a 'blanket' promotion, meaning he'll elevate a bunch of regular members. All you can do is ask.
GoldenGreek
11-03-06, 02:33
Not necessarily the number of posts, but the quality. You can ask Jackson to make you a Senior Member. He does that every few months or so. Sometimes it's a 'blanket' promotion, meaning he'll elevate a bunch of regular members. All you can do is ask.How would I go about asking him or getting in touch with him?
Thank you in advance
You might check out the bottom of the cover page. There are different items to click on. I'm not sure it private messages to Jackson works. Of course you realize Jackson is not really a person, but a staff that oversees the website. It would be literally impossible for one person to handle all of this by themselves. Good Luck.
Call Me Booger
12-01-06, 16:12
So on Thursday afternoon, I was bored at work and decided to read through some of the different forums on here. While I was flipping back to the home page, I noticed there was two people in the chat room, so I logged in.
Guys, I kid you not, one of the people in the chat room was an escort from the Memphis area named CreamySilk. She was at a hotel waiting for her next appt. She was a blast to chat with, a couple other mongers joined in. Cool to see the chat room actually used.
Anyways, my point is if you are going to be on the site for a while log in. Let's see if we can make the Chat section more utilized.
Boog
I posted on the N/O board, but got no response. I'll be at Harrah's in downtown N/O this coming weekend. Anybody have a recommendation? Prefer MP, as many of you know.
Thanks
Gooch
Haven't been to NO since before Katrina but at this point the French quarter should be close to what it used to be. I always had luck walking around the quarter after midnight and looking for SW's. They can be hard to spot at times as some on the non working girls get so drunk it's hard to tell who's working, and who's just fucked up. If you walk away from Canal ST and away from the river several blocks the neihborhood starts to get seedier. that's where I had the best luck. Also, the first block in the French quarter a few blocks from the casino can reap some higher end girls. I picked up a real hottie with the best tits ever near Canal by Red Fish restaruant and spent an hour in my room for $100. That was about 8 years ago though. My 2 experiences at the AMPS were very bad. Shitty massage, shitty hand job, and I'm too damn embarrassed to tell you what it cost me. That was years ago though and I was still very new to the scene. If you have a car that juct go up and down every street in the French quarter. you can cover the whole quarter (every st) in 10-15 minutes by car.
Good luck!
I posted on the N/O board, but got no response. I'll be at Harrah's in downtown N/O this coming weekend. Anybody have a recommendation? Prefer MP, as many of you know.
Thanks
Gooch
Ass Attack
12-07-06, 00:10
I was not sure where to post this, so I guess General Reports keeps it safe. In my never ending search for free porn I came across this site which is unbelievable. There is something for everyone and every fetish. Now if we can only bring cameras into MP's. :)
http://yuvutu.com
Ass Attack
P.S. Here is my favorite so far. I don't think I will get too much work done the next few days. http://yuvutu.com/modules.php?name=Video&op=view&video_id=885
Careful of volume
Call Me Booger
12-07-06, 13:16
P.S. Here is my favorite so far. I don't think I will get too much work done the next few days. http://yuvutu.com/modules.php?name=Video&op=view&video_id=885
Careful of volume
Wow...I'm speechless
I was not sure where to post this, so I guess General Reports keeps it safe. In my never ending search for free porn I came across this site which is unbelievable. There is something for everyone and every fetish. Now if we can only bring cameras into MP's. :)
http://yuvutu.com
Ass Attack
P.S. Here is my favorite so far. I don't think I will get too much work done the next few days. http://yuvutu.com/modules.php?name=Video&op=view&video_id=885
Careful of volume
Thank you! Thank you! for the URL............
I can not get the videos to download. Do you know what plug-in or palyer is needed? Thanks for the help.
2 other sites for free porn are boysfood.com which is better than the link below because the videos load much fater. Also www.thehun.com is good. Higher quality vids but they are shorter. Enjoy but bring a towel.
I was not sure where to post this, so I guess General Reports keeps it safe. In my never ending search for free porn I came across this site which is unbelievable. There is something for everyone and every fetish. Now if we can only bring cameras into MP's. :)
http://yuvutu.com
Ass Attack
P.S. Here is my favorite so far. I don't think I will get too much work done the next few days. http://yuvutu.com/modules.php?name=Video&op=view&video_id=885
Careful of volume
I had no problems and I have Windows Media Player 10.
Stinky
I recently upgraded from Windows Media Player 8 to 11. Myabe I nned to find WMP 10 becuase I can not downlaod anything with 11.
PussyPoker
08-29-07, 19:59
Hello gentlemen, i was thinking of going to costa rica in Oct. I have read the International guide. It does have a lot of info but I was looking for some info from the local boys. If you would be so kind as not to beat me to death for asking but I have been to toronto and it is much better than here. They aslo speak english. I'm just a little afraid of the whole customs and pass port thing. Yes I do have one.
http://www.neoretix.com/weblist.htm
Stick with the bold ones, and you shouldn't get jerked around.
'nuff said.
http://www.neoretix.com/weblist.htm
Stick with the bold ones, and you shouldn't get jerked around.
'nuff said.
My current fav is OMGtube.com. The videos are considerably longer than most of the ones at yuvutu.
Some irritations, though. First of all, every once in a while, Vista will not support the website and will reset to a lower resolution. Also, when you first go on the page, you might be watching a video and poof - an ad comes out of nowhere. You have to press "skip this ad" to continue. That kinda stuff makes me worry a little about viruses, spyware and the like. However, Norton has not caught anything yet. Hopefully my luck will continue.
The site has been "remodeling" the last few days. They provide a link to their sister site Lasputas.tv. Hopefully the above issues will be resolved when they are back from remodeling. I have not encountered similar problems on Lasputas.
Orangecrush
09-06-07, 11:01
Hello gentlemen, i was thinking of going to costa rica in Oct. I have read the International guide. It does have a lot of info but I was looking for some info from the local boys. If you would be so kind as not to beat me to death for asking but I have been to toronto and it is much better than here. They aslo speak english. I'm just a little afraid of the whole customs and pass port thing. Yes I do have one.
It depends on what you want. Prostitution is widely accepted in Costa Rica. The woman are almost exclusively latina and, I must say, hot as hell. I spent a few days in Jaco and the Beetle Bar is everything they say it is. The woman are aggressive and you must negotiate firmly. Some Spanish is helpful, but not necessary. There is another website that focuses exclusively on Costa Rica and costs a few dollars to join. It is worth it.
San Jose is a dump. If it wasn't for the hookers I would never suggest you go there, though there are some guys that never leave the hotel except to go to the airport to leave. Walk into the bar and the woman start buzzing. I spent the absolute best night of my life with a girl there. Totally felt like a girlfriend experience. We went out to dinner, drinking, dancing (with her friends) and then spent he night in every position imaginable. Two of her friends wanted to join us, but I was not going to have any distractions with this woman in bed. She was the best looking woman I have ever seen and performed like a champ.
It is a must see destination for hobbiests.
Whiskey Priest
09-06-07, 13:03
Several months ago while trolling one of the sections of the forum, I saw mentioned Quest phone dating. It's one of those phone dating services where you call in, place an ad about how you are looking to meet Ms. Right, take her for long walks on the beach, rub her feet, feed her strawberries, etc. She hears your ad, responds, you two meet up and live happily ever after.
All in all, it is a decent place to troll for women who are even looking for just a quick lunch or dinner date. The only problem is, about 90% of those ads come from the Milwaukee area. Every once in a while I'll find someone in or around Chicago area looking to get together.
So my question is, are there any services such as Quest, but with a higher concentration of Chicagoland women?
Hey guys just trying to find some good areas for sw's not Hartford too much action. I dont know the streets of Wtby where they hang out any info would be helpful. I dont have the time to hang out at the strip clubs and bang the girls during the day. I need some sure things.
Mister Quick
09-10-07, 11:41
A friend emailed these to me. Though they should be shared with guys on here but no place on the forum seems a good place for them. If you guys dont like I can delete them tomorrow.
Enjoy
http://hookersforjesus.net/index.cfm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7362190213000676817&q=hookers+for+jesus&total=124&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
A friend emailed these to me. Though they should be shared with guys on here but no place on the forum seems a good place for them. If you guys dont like I can delete them tomorrow.
Enjoy
A friend emailed these to me. Though they should be shared with guys on here but no place on the forum seems a good place for them. If you guys dont like I can delete them tomorrow.
Enjoy
Years ago, there was a Christian cult called "Children of God," they had since renamed their cult "The Family," as they are known today.
In the 70's, perhaps dating to the 60's, the Christian cult as known as listed in the paragraph above had some of their women members walk the streets offering sex for money, in order to bring more money into their churches (which didn't actually occupy buildings with steeples, but were usually communes located in homes.) They called this practice "Flirty Fishing." The cult also had their prostitutes fill out forms of time walking the streets, john's names and how much they collected, and perhaps types of sexual acts as well.
Pregnancy and diseases were common as the cult allowed no condom use, and allowed no use of birth controls. As a result, the population within "The Family" dramatically increased, and many of the husbands/boyfriends in the cult gotten diseases too. They also had open sexual relationships in the communes, and were quite sick-minded as they were also into incests as well; therefore one of their slogan "C'mon Ma, burn your bra. They done large numbers of illegal sex acts beyond "Flirty Fishing" that gotten attention of the LE authorities and they since "sanitized" much of their religious practices, religious books, and their sexual lifestyle. The wife of the founder of the cult resides outside of the US to be out of reach of the legal system. (The founder has since passed on, but I'm not sure whether if it's to a better place if you know what I mean!) Today the widow of the founder is in a loving relationship with another longtime member but not married. Strange for a religion.
Their practice of "Flirty Fishing" in open ways on the streets largely came to an end when one of their members, an Asian woman cult member; died of AIDS I believe in 1986. Afterwards their practice of "Flirty Fishing" became much less common and much more discreet. The cult's prostitute afterwards pretty much stuck with existing clients that were good cash cows for the cult. For a religion that's supposed to be loving they since adopted a policy that any members found positive for AIDS are to be excommunicated from the church. Instead for a loving church they at least could take care of their members sick with AIDS, just don't have such members sexually active unless it's with another HIV positive cult member.
I'm not suggesting that some of us on here should go join that cult since they "sanitized" their religion perhaps to the point that much of their old sexual lifestyle no longer exists, though they are perhaps still sexually open within each of their individual communes. Besides, they have histories of engaging in sex with people below the age of consent and none of us with right minds would want to be into any part of that. Hopefully the cult no longer engages in sex with those under the age of consent. Nowadays the cult's SWs are nowhere to be found as opposed to what was the case before 1986, so don't waste your time looking for them. Even then there were legal risks involved since the cult's prostitute filled out forms listing johns' names and authorities may had gotten ahold of few of those forms. Thank heavens the mainstream non-religious SWs don't fill out forms with mongerer's names and so on.
Today, their website masquerades their cult like mainstream churches like Baptists, Methodists and so on. Much of their histories can be read about on the internet. Just type in "Children of God" in a search engine. For interest knowing, a famous Hollywood actress Rose Mcgowan was born in the cult. Her parents were members of the cult.
So Mister Quick, there's no need to delete your post nor the pictures; they perhaps actually were SWing in the name of religion which may or may not be "Children of God or The Family." They could also be photos from many years ago when the "Children of God" prostitutes were "Flirty Fishing" themselves out for cash to give to the church; and yes, unlike many Christian cults (Jehovah's Witnesses notably), this strange cult also seem to believe in Jesus as God and Savior as do Baptist Churches.
A note to LE (some who are religious) reading this: While I don't support your enforcement of laws regarding prostitution, I do agree (as many of us on here likely agrees too) that the "Children of God" religion are among the sickest religion in the name of religion and personally I hope that those of you in the LE community has successfully prosecuted some of the cult members for engaging in sex with those under the age of consent.
This post in no ways support religion and no proselytizing on my part is intended.
Stay Safe
Iamslobbyist
09-19-07, 18:50
Does anyone know of a walk in clinic in the city of Chicago that does a reasonably priced STD check? I don't think I am infected with anything, but just feel it would be a good idea to do.
Thanks
Mister Quick
09-21-07, 11:51
Not really have have anything to do with Illinois. But of interest in my opinion anyway. Story about amstredam where they are getting rid of some prostitutes but the government does not want to get rid of them all.
A non-profit corporation has purchased a large number of the buildings where prostitutes pose in windows in Amsterdam's Red Light district, the city said Thursday, in a deal that may lead to a third of the windows being shuttered.
The move is intended to break a logjam in an multi-year effort by the city to cut back on the windows, which it says are a magnet for crime and money laundering.
Mayor Job Cohen said the move was not intended to get rid of prostitution entirely, since it is part of the area's history and a major tourist draw for the city.
"What we do want is to get rid of the underlying criminality," Cohen told local television station AT5.
In Thursday's deal, public housing corporation NV Stadsgoed purchased 18 buildings with 51 windows for $35 million. That is around a third of the windows in the Red Light District, though there are other prostitution zones in the city.
NV Stadsgoed will redevelop some or all of the buildings, and because they are not likely to be worth as much as housing or regular commercial real estate, the city has agreed to reimburse the corporation by up to $21 million.
"We don't know yet what's going to come in their place," Cohen said. "We're very busy making a development plan, and we hope to have that ready by the end of the year."
Amsterdam has been conducting a crackdown on criminality in the city center for nearly five years, using a 2002 law that forces business operators to disclose detailed accounting in order to have their licenses renewed.
The seller in Thursday's deal, "Fat" Charlie Geerts, was ordered by the city last year to close the windows because the city said he failed to meet standards.
But he filed a legal protest and Amsterdam's District Court granted an injunction against closures while he fought the decision.
With its scantily clad prostitutes posing in brothel windows and coffee shops oozing the pungent aroma of cannabis smoke, the Red Light district's seediness has always been part of its attraction.
Prostitution is legal in the Netherlands, and coffee shops are licensed to sell small amounts of marijuana. But the district is a magnet for petty criminals and, authorities believe, human traffickers, drug lords and mobsters - who take advantage of the situation to launder money.
Prostitutes' rights organizations have generally been indifferent to the crackdown, arguing that pimps are the main source of problems, not landlords.
PussyPoker
09-22-07, 16:54
Hi all, has any of you chicagoan's been to cr. I was looking to go in Oct. but I don't have much info. I have been reading the Inter. costa rica board but I'm looking for some local guys that may have been there.
http://www.edenincspa.com/home.htm
Anyone tried this place?
Try the internationalsexguide.info by Jackson. All of your questions will be answered.
PussyPoker
10-17-07, 17:07
The web site has the same pics for the last 5 or 6 years. They use it be way uo north in Glennview. Then they were busted.I lot of money for a half a** massage. Just my opinon.
http://www.edenincspa.com/home.htm
Anyone tried this place?
Wouldn't surprise me if they got a lot of business from out-of-town travelers; much more convenient than going out to Glenview with all the road construction.
Orangecrush
10-23-07, 14:16
Hi all, has any of you chicagoan's been to cr. I was looking to go in Oct. but I don't have much info. I have been reading the Inter. costa rica board but I'm looking for some local guys that may have been there.
Just saw this. The International sex guide is pretty helpful. There is also a group called costa rica ticas or something that I joined before I went. Thogh nothing really prepares you for this place. In Jaco, walking into the Beetle Bar the first time I thought I was dreaming. It was early and I would say there were 4 -5 guys and about 30 girls. By the time I finished my first beer, there were 100+ girls, most were amazing. Best ever pay for play experience was in San Jose, the town was a dump, but I met the most amazing semi-pro there. I took her and her friend out for a few cocktails and dancing and then the whole night back at my place. Amazing experience.
PussyPoker
10-23-07, 20:03
Just saw this. The International sex guide is pretty helpful. There is also a group called costa rica ticas or something that I joined before I went. Thogh nothing really prepares you for this place. In Jaco, walking into the Beetle Bar the first time I thought I was dreaming. It was early and I would say there were 4 -5 guys and about 30 girls. By the time I finished my first beer, there were 100+ girls, most were amazing. Best ever pay for play experience was in San Jose, the town was a dump, but I met the most amazing semi-pro there. I took her and her friend out for a few cocktails and dancing and then the whole night back at my place. Amazing experience.
Hi Orangecrush, I am here in costa rica right now. You are right about San Jose. I walked into Del Rey and OH MY GOD. I was in who*e heaven. Monday, two friends for lunch then a little of get to no each other for a couple of hours. Then dinner and some more get to no you better. Then today after breakfast I'm siting at the bar when my friend Dannella shows up before she goes to collage. She asked if she could meet me later. She comes back at 1:00. We have lunch and then each other until 5:00. I have spent more money in Chinatown for massages and extras in one day than I have spent here for 2 and a half days. I can"t wait for my next trip.
Will be in Taylorville Ill on Business Thanksgiving week any areas to check out?
Not a thing in Taylorville. The most nearest thing would be Springfield, check their posts. A couple of AMPS in Decatur, but not too exicitng.
Mister Quick
11-05-07, 11:36
Looking for love? If you've got the cash, you can hook up through a Web site that offers a different approach to dating.
Sugar daddies, sugar babies and "seekingarrangement.com."
Rich, successful men are going online to find young attractive women, like Nicolette Blair who says, "This is the time to do it when you're young and you're single."
Blair isn't looking for a committed relationship but rather an opportunity as a "Sugar Baby." Blair says, "It's more than just financial. It's a mentor in personal life and business. It's a friend."
The 23-year-old Chicagoan joined "seekingarrangement.com;" a dating Web site for Sugar Daddies and the women who want to meet them.
Here's how Blair breaks it down. "It's a mutually beneficial relationship, and if I was looking for a traditional relationship I would be seeking someone my own age group."
Most of the women on the site are in their 20's. The average age for men is 40's to 50's. There are profiles from across the county, even overseas.
There are also Sugar Daddies from Racine, Green Bay and Milwaukee. One guy from Shorewood, Wisconsin claims he pulls in more than a million a year. His net worth? More than 100 million.
For Sugar Babies, cash is king. Blair doesn't want gifts in exchange for her time, "gifts are not going to help you. It's not a smart investment." It's a dating process that's working for Blair.
A Sugar Daddy we talked to, feels differently.
John Fergus calls the people he's met on the site, superficial. Fergus says, "I guess I'm not like looking to support anybody. Some of these people wanted $5,000 cash up front. They wanted an apartment, I'm not the sugar daddy that way......it's a bunch of gold diggers."
A relationship expert weighed in on this new dating trend. Judy Bruett questions whether anyone with a healthy self-esteem would pursue this kind of relationship. Bruett says, "My sense is the men are not looking for love. It seemed that a lot of it was very sexual. It sort of seemed like men wanting to buy sex."
Blair claims she's met quality men on the site, but is this about sex for money? Blair doesn't consider this prostitution, "I don't because like I said prostitutes, I feel are selling just their bodies, and we're selling a lot more than that and if a man wants just sex he can go find that."
The site also features "Sugar Mommies," successful older women looking for younger men. www.seekingarrangement.com is free to join. There are some 100 thousand members on the Web site. More than 5,000 of them are in the Milwaukee - Chicago area.
Mister Quick
12-21-07, 18:05
37-Year-Old Aunt Offers To Sell Niece's Body For Drug Money
CROWN POINT, Ind. -- A Valparaiso woman released early from jail stole a car and took her 16-year-old niece on a joyride through Northwest Indiana, stopping to purchase and smoke crack, and telling her niece that she could sell the girl's body for cash to buy more drugs, police said.
Annette Conklin, 37, borrowed a car from a friend, telling the woman her son was missing and she needed to use the car for 10 minutes to find him. She took her niece with her, and when they found Conklin's son two blocks away, Conklin told her son to go home, the niece told police.
The two continued driving to Gary, where Conklin told the niece she was a prostitute, and if she couldn't get drugs she would have to prostitute herself, according to police. Later, Conklin told the girl that she could make money by prostituting the teen as well, but since she was family, she wouldn't do it, according to a probable cause affidavit filed Monday in Lake County Superior Court.
Conklin, of 2203 Valparaiso St., allegedly bought drugs and began smoking them during the drive back home. She offered the crack cocaine to the girl, but when the teen declined, Conklin offered to teach her a way to smoke it that wouldn't get her addicted. She refused again, court records state.
For the second time in less than a year, Conklin was arrested, and this time she was charged with auto theft, neglect of a dependent and attempted contributing to the delinquency of a minor. She faces a maximum sentence of six years.
During her last stint in unlawful behavior, Conklin attacked her boyfriend with a butcher knife and drove to Gary in a blood-soaked car to buy crack cocaine, court records state. A police officer pulled her over in May, and Conklin told the officer she got into the fight with her boyfriend when she took the keys to his car to buy more drugs.
She told the officer she and her boyfriend had attacked each other with knives while they were high on crack, breaking seven months of sobriety.
After pleading guilty to criminal recklessness with a weapon, Conklin was sentenced to nine months in jail. Charges of domestic battery and possession of drug paraphernalia were dismissed, and she completed a chemical dependency program at the jail.
Pair Arrested For Sex Slave Contract
PIKEVILLE, Ky. -- A man and woman who signed a document characterized as a "sex-slave contract" were arrested by Pikeville police Thursday on misdemeanor charges of prostitution and criminal solicitation.
Ike "Sly" England, 31, of Belfry and Amanda Pinion, 22, of Harold claim a notarized five-page document was an Internet form they filled out for fun and filed by mistake at the courthouse.
The Contract Lasts 25 Years
But Pike County Attorney Howard Keith Hall and Pikeville's police department shrugged off the explanations and issued arrest warrants yesterday.
Pinion was charged with prostitution and England with criminal solicitation.
Both warrants, Class B misdemeanors, were based on the contents of the contract.
Assistant County Attorney Roger Varney said that the slave contract itself is void because slavery is illegal.
Pikeville detective Bruce Anderson said that England was released from the Pike County Detention Center on $5,000 bond Thursday morning.
Pinion was unable to make the same bond.
The contract offers rights to both parties, but most to the master.
Hall said it called for Pinion "to use her body for free or for money."
The contract stated that the slave can marry, but can't consummate the union.
The slave can bear the master's baby, but can't ask for child support.
The contract also stated that the "slave agrees to party with the master whenever the master so desires."
Under the rules of punishment, paragraph F prohibits withholding necessary materials like food, water, sunlight and tanning bed sessions.
England is also allowed to accept other slaves under the contract without considering Pinion's feelings.
The contract lasts for 25 years, and is renewable at the master's discretion.
The deputy county clerk said that she had no choice but to accept the contract.
The contract does not have legal standing, despite the notary seal.
Teen Hires Prostitute From Hospital Bed
DETROIT -- Authorities are investigating whether to press charges after a 15-year-old patient at University of Michigan C.S. Mott Children's Hospital sought out an escort service for sex during his hospital stay this week, according to the Ann Arbor News.
Police believe the teen called an escort service and requested an escort for Sunday evening.
The woman reportedly came to the hospital, where she and the boy engaged in consensual sex -- although the teen is not legally at an age of consent, according to police.
Police believe the two had sex somewhere other than his hospital room, the paper reported.
Investigators are now working to identify the woman, who could be charged with third-degree criminal sexual conduct.
Police would not release information on the boy's medical condition to the paper, citing patient confidentiality laws.
The case will be forwarded to the Washtenaw County Prosecutor's Office to determine what criminal charges could be filed.
Judge Calls Sex-For-Truck Case Prostitution
Karen Kershaw and Rick Remmy appeared on the "People's Court" to settle a small-claims lawsuit involving sexual favors and a 20-year-old truck. They both walked away with a tongue lashing from Judge Jerry Sheindlin.
At the onset of the case, they agreed that Kershaw gave Remmy five packs of cigarettes, valued at $25 each, but they gave contradicting testimony about everything else.
To clear things up, Sheindlin brought in a forensic document examiner.
"There's no question in my mind that the same person who signed this document, signed this document," the expert said, pointing to two separate documents.
Kershaw sued Remmy for $15,000 as compensation for cash and cigarettes that she gave him, as well as for embarrassment and sexual harassment. Remmy countersued for $3,000 for distress and humiliation. Sheindlin awarded Kershaw $125.
"I'm not crediting you with anything because it's known as prostitution," Sheindlin said after Kershaw asked for credit on the sexual favors.
Kershaw said that she performed oral sex on Remmy. The contract said that oral sex was worth $20.
Sheindlin said that the amount requested by Kershaw was "ridiculous and exaggerated."
As for embarrassment, Sheindlin told Remmy, "I don't find that she embarrassed you. You embarrassed yourself."
How It Started
During the show, Kershaw revealed that she often walked home after attending meetings at a 12-step program. One day, she stopped at a car dealership where Remmy worked and started talking to him about a truck that she saw on the lot.
At first, he didn't want to sell the truck, but later he contacted her about selling the truck.
The amount for which the truck was selling has been disputed, but reports indicate that the contract included $400 for sexual favors and $300 cash.
Kershaw said that she offered Remmy cartons of cigarettes, but when she couldn't pay the money, he suggested that she provide him with sexual favors.
"He wrote this out and I was laughing," she said. "We discussed it, and I told him at the time, 'This is a joke. I'm not going to sign this. I'm not going to go through with this.' "
Remmy told a different story. He said that she leaned over and asked if she could pay him in another way. He said he refused.
"I am a married man, I have a beautiful wife and three beautiful children," he said he told her. "I'm not interested."
Kershaw said that she eventually gave in to Remmy because, he told her, as women get older they lose their sex drive.
"I'm guilty of being na?ve, stupid and very vulnerable," Kershaw said.
County's Camera Catching Sex Acts Litterbugs Were Intended Targets
Anderson County South Carolina authorities concealed a small camera to catch people illegally dumping trash on some of their highways six months ago, but the pencil-sized camera is catching something else instead.
The surveillance camera is called the Groundhog Camera, a $5,000 video camera that's partly buried in the ground and switches on automatically whenever it senses motion. Investigators purchased the camera about six months ago to monitor several areas in the county for littering.
But instead of catching people who were dumping garbage, the camera has caught many people in the heat of passion.
Since its installation, not a single littering case has been documented by the Groundhog, But some of the sex acts caught on tape could be too hot for cable.
Anderson County Public Safety Director Gerald Shealy said that some of the scenes "would curl your toes."
Scenes caught in the camera's viewfinder ranged from mild to wild.
"We've had some cases where men and women were together -- they were in their vehicle. We've had some cases where we had a guy who was walking around in the woods with no clothes on," Shealy said.
The South Carolina American Civil Liberties Association said that the Groundhog Camera is an invasion of privacy.
"These surveillance cameras violate the privacy rights of law abiding citizens. Rarely do they catch criminals," state American Civil Liberties Association director Laverne Neal said.
Attorney Bruce Byrholdt said that it concerns him too.
"What scares me in this is the intrusion by the government. Right now, it's on the roads they claim looking for littering. But where's the next step?," Byrnholdt said.
But investigators disagree.
"You have to realize when you're going on somebody else's property or you're sitting on a county road, that you would be subject to being watched," Shealy said.
"The Fourth Amendment in the U.S. protects a person's privacy rights in their homes. The problem is when you're on a public street, you do not have an expectation of privacy," Byrholdt said.
Shealy said that the cases appear to be between consenting adults and will not be prosecuted.
He said that investigators just want to keep Anderson County clean.
"Maybe they'll think twice before they go out and do things they shouldn't be doing in the woods, including littering and illegal dumping," Shealy said.
He said that at least one case on the tape might be prostitution, but Anderson County Sheriff's Department Capt. Dale McCard said that without video of money being exchanged, there is no case.
Shealy said that if they catch anything that could be prosecuted like prostitution or a drug deal, they will turn it over to the Sheriff's Office.
Academic Stripping? Student Strips For Thesis
OMAHA, Neb. -- A University of Nebraska-Omaha student took a job recently as a stripper for class credit.
Jenny Heineman, a sociology student, said she wanted to bring sex workers out of the dark, so she felt she had to enter their world. Her thesis, "Gender and Work: An Ethnography of a Midwest Strip Club," got her a B and she graduated this spring with high honors.
By day, she works at Blue Line Coffee Shop, selling cappuccino and scones.
As a sociology student studying in Europe, the 22-year-old said she became interested in another line of work.
"I was taking a course in sexuality and culture, and I got introduced to the underground culture of sex work and became very interested in the rights of sex workers," Heineman said.
That included prostitutes, call girls and strippers.
"Upon returning to the states, my curiosity and my desire to work with these women led me to get a job," she said.
By night, Heineman danced at The 20s Club.
"I probably go up on stage four times in a five-hour shift, and I'm constantly thinking, 'Please don't fall,'" Heineman said. "The rest of the time is spent mingling with customers and doing dances for customers at tables," she said.
She said she has learned to strut her stuff in 5-inch heels.
Her experience with customers and her fellow workers was guided and graded by professor Shireen Rajaram.
"I think it's a very worthwhile topic for us to look at," Rajaram said.
Rajaram applauded her student's courage. She said only through this kind of first-hand account can sociologists identify real issues and dispel stereotypes.
"I mean, it's a huge industry and so it's important for us as socio-anthropologists to shed light on the issues, especially the social injustices," Rajaram said.
Heineman said the biggest injustice is the stigma placed on her fellow dancers.
"A lot of these women are doing this to support their families. Several of them are single mothers. They work very hard at a job that can be quite tiresome," Heineman said.
If nothing more, she said she hopes to raise awareness of inequities and earn them the respect she thinks they deserve.
"Get to know your local stripper -- that's the message we should end on, yeah," Heineman said.
The titles says it all.
Average AMP with HJ release.
Door $70 + Tip $40 = $110
Average WMP with HJ release.
Door $75 + Tip $50 = $125
High end WMP with HJ release. (Edens)
Door $150 + Tip $30 = $180
So why do some of you pay so much for just a HJ? Is it really worth it to you?
Explain.
Thanks.
37-Year-Old Aunt Offers To Sell Niece's Body For Drug Money
CROWN POINT, Ind. -- A Valparaiso woman released early from jail stole a car and took her 16-year-old niece on a joyride through Northwest Indiana, stopping to purchase and smoke crack, and telling her niece that she could sell the girl's body for cash to buy more drugs, police said.
Annette Conklin, 37, borrowed a car from a friend, telling the woman her son was missing and she needed to use the car for 10 minutes to find him. She took her niece with her, and when they found Conklin's son two blocks away, Conklin told her son to go home, the niece told police.
The two continued driving to Gary, where Conklin told the niece she was a prostitute, and if she couldn't get drugs she would have to prostitute herself, according to police. Later, Conklin told the girl that she could make money by prostituting the teen as well, but since she was family, she wouldn't do it, according to a probable cause affidavit filed Monday in Lake County Superior Court.
Conklin, of 2203 Valparaiso St., allegedly bought drugs and began smoking them during the drive back home. She offered the crack cocaine to the girl, but when the teen declined, Conklin offered to teach her a way to smoke it that wouldn't get her addicted. She refused again, court records state.
For the second time in less than a year, Conklin was arrested, and this time she was charged with auto theft, neglect of a dependent and attempted contributing to the delinquency of a minor. She faces a maximum sentence of six years.
During her last stint in unlawful behavior, Conklin attacked her boyfriend with a butcher knife and drove to Gary in a blood-soaked car to buy crack cocaine, court records state. A police officer pulled her over in May, and Conklin told the officer she got into the fight with her boyfriend when she took the keys to his car to buy more drugs.
She told the officer she and her boyfriend had attacked each other with knives while they were high on crack, breaking seven months of sobriety.
After pleading guilty to criminal recklessness with a weapon, Conklin was sentenced to nine months in jail. Charges of domestic battery and possession of drug paraphernalia were dismissed, and she completed a chemical dependency program at the jail.
This woman's a nutcase. Six years is the absolute minimum I would give her, not the maximum. In addition, she should be barred from ever having contact with her niece or any other young relatives.
The titles says it all.
Average AMP with HJ release.
Door $70 + Tip $40 = $110
Average WMP with HJ release.
Door $75 + Tip $50 = $125
High end WMP with HJ release. (Edens)
Door $150 + Tip $30 = $180
So why do some of you pay so much for just a HJ? Is it really worth it to you?
Explain.
Thanks.I agree that it seems like a lot especially to a natural born cheapskate like me. On the other hand, I do enjoy the occasional visit to the ER in Belvidere. It offers the comfort of a safe and clean location plus knowing what to expect. I'm able to relax and enjoy the session.
I've occasionally found better service for a comparable fee but it never seems to last, girls move, phones disconnected, etc.
Mister Quick
04-29-08, 09:43
When most schoolgirls were playing with their Barbie dolls, Amanda Brooks was dreaming of growing up to be a prostitute.
"When I was in fourth grade, it sounded like a good idea for me. To me it sounded like a really interesting way to make a living and not having to follow other peoples' rules," she said by telephone from Texas where she lives.
Retired at 29 with a steady boyfriend after two-and-a-half years working as an escort, she has published the Internet Escort's Handbook series for aspiring call girls everywhere.
The series so far contains two books. The first book, called "The Foundation" covers "basic mental, emotional and physical considerations in escort work". The second, "Advertizing and Marketing," gives tips on how to set up a Web site and advertize online."When I began working I had a lot of questions and there wasn't really any way to find out answers. I did what they always tell authors to do: I wrote the books that I wished I had been able to read," she said.
Brooks is unapologetic about a lifestyle that she says suited her perfectly. On her Web site she describes her frustration at being told she should get a "real job."
"I've read many job books which list the symptoms to look for when a job is going bad: depression, stress, anxiety, insomnia, weight gain or weight loss, anger, ulcers, hair loss, hatred, suicidal thoughts, and feeling trapped."
"How did I feel working as an escort? Happy, satisfied, in control of my life; wealthy, healthy, at peace with myself, free, successful and I slept like a baby every night."
Brought up in a small town in Texas, she graduated from college with a double degree in photography and English (both majors known to get people good jobs) before getting a job as a cocktail waitress at a strip club. She then worked as a stripper for four years before finally taking the plunge at 26 and placing an ad offering escort services.
At a time when global trafficking and organized crime are making prostitution more dangerous than ever, Brooks said the internet made it easier to go into business on your own -- free from exploitation by agencies, brothel owners or pimps.
The main tip for staying safe is: do your homework. She used the Internet to screen her clients and turned down appointments when she had doubts.
The worst abuse she suffered was clients who refused to pay her fees, which she said were "standard prices in the U.S., between $250 and $500 an hour."
The work became safer once she had a steady stable of regular clients. She found them easier to deal with than her boyfriend.
"Adding money to a sexual relationship does not necessarily make it violent or horrible," she said.
"Relationships with my clients are fun and easy. They were kind of a break from real life and we all know that real life can be difficult."
Husband Also Arrested In Alleged Prostitution Case
The husband of the Waterloo woman charged with prostitution has also been arrested. Steven Blossner, 31, was taken into custody July 2 at his home at 323 Hannah Drive by the Metropolitan Enforcement Group of Southern Illinois. He was charged with a misdemeanor count of keeping a place of prostitution. Blossner posted bond and was released from custody. He is scheduled to appear before Circuit Judge Dennis Doyle on Aug. 7, at 9 a.m., at the Monroe County Courthouse.
His wife, Mandy Blosser, was arrested by MEGSI June 26 at their home. According to the police report, Blosser agreed to perform a sexual act on an undercover police officer in exchange for $150.
MEGSI had been investigating Mrs. Blosser after she posted information in the personals section of the Craigslist website. The Waterloo Police Department and Monroe County Sheriff’s Department assisted in the arrest. She was charged with a felony count of prostitution. The charge was listed as a felony because the incident occurred within 1,000 feet of a daycare. Mrs. Blosser’s preliminary hearing has been set for July 24, at 1 p.m., at the Monroe County Courthouse.
Im Horney Two
07-31-08, 12:29
I am going to be in the Dundee IL area this weekend and was wondering if there is any adult entertainment of any sorts in that area. Any SW's?
I am going to be in the Dundee IL area this weekend and was wondering if there is any adult entertainment of any sorts in that area. Any SW's?Your out of luck for SW's in that area there are some escorts in the Crystal Lake Area. I would suggest Jacqueline.
Young Scout
08-08-08, 07:17
Anyone ever thought of producing their own adult videos? I've always wanted to start some sort of talent scout agency or adult entertainment company. I think it would be cool. Any1 interested, pm me!
CT Michelle
08-19-08, 13:48
Check out CL for toni,Payton, Elli, Hope, Nicki
Ct Michelle
Mister Quick
08-21-08, 13:32
This happened elsewhere but the moral of the story applies everywhere.
A fight between a suspected prostitute and its customer Sunday night led to a minor car wreck and charges for both men.
According to a police affidavit, a man in a truck stopped and picked up another man, who was dressed as a woman. False advertising anyone?
After a brief negotiation, they drove to a bank ATM so the customer could get $50. Not the wisest of moves even if he had been with a woman. But the prostitute told police it became suspicious that his customer might be a police officer, so it tried to get out of the truck.
It told officers the man wouldn’t let him out, so it punched the accelerator, and the truck slammed into a car parked at a skating rink. The driver told police only that they had been arguing. Nobody was injured.
The 25 year old driver has been charged with patronizing a prostitute and not having his driver’s license. He is being held in Jail on $1,000 bond. The 22 year old prostitute has been charged with prostitution. It is being held on $100 bond.
CT Michelle
09-18-08, 10:22
Ok for those that have been asking i will be in Schaumburg tonight and i will be bringing some friends,
Ct Michelle
Need to help someone get girls for a bachelor party.
Does anyone have any numbers?
Want someone who will do EVERYTHING for the best man.
Bachelore?
Isn't that a city in India?
-Vazooli
Local Hick
11-07-08, 14:46
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/07/BUVO13VQUM.DTL
Craigslist to charge for erotic services ads
Matthew B. Stannard, Chronicle Staff Writer
Friday, November 7, 2008
Instead, the San Francisco-based Craigslist soon will begin requiring advertisers for massages, strippers, escort services and the like to pay a fee with a credit card - fees the famously profit-averse company plans to donate to charity.
The move is part of a deal between Craigslist and more than 40 state attorneys general to crack down on prostitution ads.
"It raises the accountability for people posting to the category," said Craigslist Chief Executive Officer Jim Buckmaster. "Our well-intentioned users don't want to see illegal activity on the site, either."
Craigslist already requires that people listing erotic services provide phone numbers, and has begun taking legal action against software companies that help people get around that and other restrictions, Buckmaster said.
Craigslist is not legally required to take such steps - existing law provides immunity to services such as Craigslist for actions taken by their users, said Kurt Opfahl, senior staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation. However, law enforcement officials can subpoena such companies for user information such as phone and credit card numbers.
In the past, such subpoenas would deliver little information, because the erotic services ads - like most ads on Craigslist - could be posted anonymously.
Under the arrangement with the attorneys general, Craigslist volunteered to begin collecting phone and credit card numbers from erotic services advertisers after Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal complained about prostitution ads on the site.
Craigslist took a look and decided Blumenthal had a point, Buckmaster said.
"Requiring phone numbers, credit cards and identifying details will provide a roadmap to prostitutes and sex traffickers - so we can track them down and lock them up," Blumenthal said in a statement issued Thursday.
Requiring phone numbers has already reduced the volume of erotic services ads by 80 percent, Buckmaster said. Charging an as-yet-undetermined fee is expected to reduce the volume still further.
The deal brought accolades from groups such as the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which joined the agreement.
"I think it's win-win," said Ernie Allen, president and chief executive officer of the center. "It's an example of Craigslist being concerned and taking a real leadership role in ensuring that these kinds of abuses and illegal activities don't happen."
Sylvia Borelli, founder of Lovings.com, a long-established San Francisco escort Web site, was also complimentary. Borelli said her site has long taken similar measures and more, such as verifying that advertisers are over 18.
"I never liked any of the wide-open personals, because of that possibility of exploitation," she said. The credit card verification system "can also be circumvented. ... But I think that people will start thinking twice, because there is more of a paper trail."
The policy attracted a handful of angry reactions on the Craigslist blog. Commenters accused Craigslist of "caving in to the police establishment" and turning its back on a history of protecting free anonymous expression.
Criticism also came from Maxine Doogan, founder of the Erotic Service Providers Union.
Doogan said Craigslist had provided a place where sex workers could anonymously and safely connect with clients - and vice versa - for free.
"They always end up further pushing into poverty the class of workers who don't have access to those tools of capitalism," she said. "Back to the streets - that's what's going to happen."
On the other end of the criticism spectrum was Trench Reynolds, a pseudonymous crime blogger who tracks Craigslist-linked crime at craigscrimelist.org.
"I still say the best way to crack down on that is to do away with the erotic services section altogether," he said. "I think (the deal) will cut down on a lot of the erotic services ads, but I don't think it will cut down enough to put me out of business."
Meanwhile, groups such as the EFF are watching the agreement to see how it works out, said Opfahl.
"Is it going to be a narrowly focused activity that does not spread out to other areas?" he said. "Or will the attorneys general see this as the beginning of a process to get yet more records and ability to obtain the records of online speaking?"
Buckmaster said the company is trying to strike a balance, keeping the erotic services section - in part to keep such ads from appearing elsewhere on Craigslist - but trying to do so responsibly, protecting free speech and preventing exploitation. Hopefully, he said, Craigslist can be a pioneer in this kind of cooperation as it has been on the Internet.
"In our humble opinion this is the way to go, and we would invite other online services to follow suit," he said. "We all would be better off if we all voluntarily do what is necessary to curtail illegal activity on the Internet."
E-mail *************** at **************.
This article appeared on page C - 1 of the San Francisco Chronicle
Mister Quick
11-20-08, 11:33
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because the subject was not related to the purpose of this Forum, which is as follows:
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women in the USA for sex.
Joliet Jack
01-20-09, 07:09
I don't trust Craigs list! The reason I joined here is to get the skinny on Chicago area places to find sex. If the members can put aside their paranoia about john law listening in. Nobody can prove they are not a cop or spy so get over it. Getting busted is the chance we take but not as bad as getting mugged or robbed or STD's.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/07/BUVO13VQUM.DTL
Craigslist to charge for erotic services ads
Matthew B. Stannard, Chronicle Staff Writer
Friday, November 7, 2008
Instead, the San Francisco-based Craigslist soon will begin requiring advertisers for massages, strippers, escort services and the like to pay a fee with a credit card - fees the famously profit-averse company plans to donate to charity.
The move is part of a deal between Craigslist and more than 40 state attorneys general to crack down on prostitution ads.
"It raises the accountability for people posting to the category," said Craigslist Chief Executive Officer Jim Buckmaster. "Our well-intentioned users don't want to see illegal activity on the site, either."
Craigslist already requires that people listing erotic services provide phone numbers, and has begun taking legal action against software companies that help people get around that and other restrictions, Buckmaster said.
Craigslist is not legally required to take such steps - existing law provides immunity to services such as Craigslist for actions taken by their users, said Kurt Opfahl, senior staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation. However, law enforcement officials can subpoena such companies for user information such as phone and credit card numbers.
In the past, such subpoenas would deliver little information, because the erotic services ads - like most ads on Craigslist - could be posted anonymously.
Under the arrangement with the attorneys general, Craigslist volunteered to begin collecting phone and credit card numbers from erotic services advertisers after Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal complained about prostitution ads on the site.
Craigslist took a look and decided Blumenthal had a point, Buckmaster said.
"Requiring phone numbers, credit cards and identifying details will provide a roadmap to prostitutes and sex traffickers - so we can track them down and lock them up," Blumenthal said in a statement issued Thursday.
Requiring phone numbers has already reduced the volume of erotic services ads by 80 percent, Buckmaster said. Charging an as-yet-undetermined fee is expected to reduce the volume still further.
The deal brought accolades from groups such as the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which joined the agreement.
"I think it's win-win," said Ernie Allen, president and chief executive officer of the center. "It's an example of Craigslist being concerned and taking a real leadership role in ensuring that these kinds of abuses and illegal activities don't happen."
Sylvia Borelli, founder of Lovings.com, a long-established San Francisco escort Web site, was also complimentary. Borelli said her site has long taken similar measures and more, such as verifying that advertisers are over 18.
"I never liked any of the wide-open personals, because of that possibility of exploitation," she said. The credit card verification system "can also be circumvented. ... But I think that people will start thinking twice, because there is more of a paper trail."
The policy attracted a handful of angry reactions on the Craigslist blog. Commenters accused Craigslist of "caving in to the police establishment" and turning its back on a history of protecting free anonymous expression.
Criticism also came from Maxine Doogan, founder of the Erotic Service Providers Union.
Doogan said Craigslist had provided a place where sex workers could anonymously and safely connect with clients - and vice versa - for free.
"They always end up further pushing into poverty the class of workers who don't have access to those tools of capitalism," she said. "Back to the streets - that's what's going to happen."
On the other end of the criticism spectrum was Trench Reynolds, a pseudonymous crime blogger who tracks Craigslist-linked crime at craigscrimelist.org.
"I still say the best way to crack down on that is to do away with the erotic services section altogether," he said. "I think (the deal) will cut down on a lot of the erotic services ads, but I don't think it will cut down enough to put me out of business."
Meanwhile, groups such as the EFF are watching the agreement to see how it works out, said Opfahl.
"Is it going to be a narrowly focused activity that does not spread out to other areas?" he said. "Or will the attorneys general see this as the beginning of a process to get yet more records and ability to obtain the records of online speaking?"
Buckmaster said the company is trying to strike a balance, keeping the erotic services section - in part to keep such ads from appearing elsewhere on Craigslist - but trying to do so responsibly, protecting free speech and preventing exploitation. Hopefully, he said, Craigslist can be a pioneer in this kind of cooperation as it has been on the Internet.
"In our humble opinion this is the way to go, and we would invite other online services to follow suit," he said. "We all would be better off if we all voluntarily do what is necessary to curtail illegal activity on the Internet."
E-mail *************** at **************.
This article appeared on page C - 1 of the San Francisco Chronicle
Craigslist 40.00 hos in Bartlett rt. 59 and North Ave.
Anyone seen these girls?
Is it a jackshack ripoff or what?
I am thinking about toftt.
Orangewood
01-29-09, 01:06
Craigslist 40.00 hos in Bartlett rt. 59 and North Ave.
Anyone seen these girls?
Is it a jackshack ripoff or what?
I am thinking about toftt.Already been taken. This is a high-priced ripoff joint. I wasn't stupid enough to pay the $$$$ to "get comfortable", so I guess I can't actually verify. But my better judgement tells me the truth.
I also took this girls price too high.
I took one too. I was expecting it to be a ripoff, so I didn't spend a whole lot of money. But, I wanted to confirm my suspicions. They were confirmed.....this is one of the total ripoff joints. It was discussed in one of the other forums late last year. They advertise like crazy on craigslist and it always looks like a "too good to be true" ad.
Hi everyone,
I've been mongering for awhile and am making very limited progress.
I've found World Spa in Algonquin (they warmed up to me on the 3rd try) and Maple Spa (no luck on the first try)
I'm searching for a reliable AMP-type scenario with FS....and of course, for reasonable cost, in the Chicagoland area pretty much anywhere south of I-290 and I-88......any help? Please PM me. I'm a newer member, but have been lurking for sometime as a non-member. HJ is ok at World Spa, but sometimes I just want a little more, you know?
Hi everyone,
I've been mongering for awhile and am making very limited progress.
I've found World Spa in Algonquin (they warmed up to me on the 3rd try) and Maple Spa (no luck on the first try)
I'm searching for a reliable AMP-type scenario with FS....and of course, for reasonable cost, in the Chicagoland area pretty much anywhere south of I-290 and I-88......any help? Please PM me. I'm a newer member, but have been lurking for sometime as a non-member. HJ is ok at World Spa, but sometimes I just want a little more, you know?"those who seek shall find"
"those who seek shall find"Oh, I have sought and sought...and I've had luck at only one location, but not FS. I've been reading the forums for a while, too, but have noticed that most folks share this info via PM.
Raoul Duke
03-05-09, 19:55
Cook County Sheriff is at it again:
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/03/sheriffs-lawsuit-says-craiglist-largest-source-of-prostitution.html
The crusade continues, yet more and more providers keep popping up. If the economy keeps plunging, I suspect this trend will continue.
Not to beat a dead horse, but why not legalize it? I don't see where would it be any different than taxing the other sins (booze, cigarettes, gambling).
George W. Bush
03-06-09, 00:48
He's a fucking asshole. We have drive by shootings, high school kids being killed almost daily, drug sales all across the city, gang bangers everywhere you look, and this is the most serious thing he can find to go after.
It's easier to eat donuts and surf CL than do actual work that involves physical activity.
Mister Quick
03-06-09, 09:43
He's a fucking asshole. We have drive by shootings, high school kids being killed almost daily, drug sales all across the city, gang bangers everywhere you look, and this is the most serious thing he can find to go after.
It's easier to eat donuts and surf CL than do actual work that involves physical activity.The drug dealers and gangs who do the drive by shootings are far more dangerous since chances are they will have guns and shoot back.
PussyPoker
03-06-09, 21:18
I thought that I heard on the news today that the IOC people were in toen this weekend. He needs to make it look like this ies the only problem in Chicago. Just think of what will happen if we get the olympics. I think I'll take a month vacation. No massage parlors and to much traffic. Maybe we should put together a trip to asia. Rent a bus and hit all the mp's as possible.
Mister Quick
04-20-09, 09:39
Syndiatced news story about the casual encounters section on CL, if you dont want to read it all one bit of interest is that some of the working girls who do not want to pay the $5 to be in erotic services are now posting in the casual encounters section.
This is it, Melvin thought: Craigslist is about to get me killed.
A recent divorce who lacked the money and confidence for a conventional date, Melvin, 35, had been lured to a stranger's apartment by the promise of anonymous sex. He had already done this at least a dozen times, using classified ads he had placed on the Casual Encounters section of Craigslist.com, with no problems.
But this time, all he found was a dark, scary room.
"I was like, `Oh no, this is it -- this woman is going to kill me,"' he recalled.
Luckily for Melvin, what he had wandered into was something a bit more poignant: The woman who had answered his ad was obese and didn't want Melvin to see her body.
"It was sad, very sad," he said, "but she was a nice girl and we talked for two hours before we went in the bedroom and did what we did."
This is probably not the hedonistic situation most people envision when they think about Internet hookups. Nor was it a violent encounter that makes headlines, like the murder on April 14 in a Boston hotel room of a 26-year-old woman, Julissa Brisman, who had placed an ad for masseuse services on Craigslist, or the killing last month of George Weber, a radio news reporter who was stabbed in his Brooklyn home, police say, by a teenager who apparently answered a Craigslist ad seeking a sexual partner.
Reactions to Weber's murder among a number of people who regularly use Craigslist in search of casual sex ranged from mildly concerned to indifferent. Melvin called it a "shame" and reiterated his safety policy, adopted after his close call with the obese woman in her darkened apartment. "That's why I'm always cautious, always meet in public," he said.
Michael, 34, a straight man who lives in Midtown Manhattan and who has been using the Casual Encounters board on Craigslist for five years, said, "In a city of 8 million-plus, this sort of thing was bound to happen statistically."
Although sex is solicited online in many places -- legally and otherwise -- the Casual Encounters listings are a major hub, offering to do for casual sex what the rest of the site does for no-fee apartments, temp jobs and old strollers.
Like bathhouses and sex clubs, the Casual Encounters section caters to the erotic underbelly of society, where courtship gives way to expediency and anonymity is a virtue (or at least a turn-on). The section was introduced in late 2000 and is available in all cities served by Craigslist, for users gay and straight, male and female. The ads range from prim to raunchy; a good number of people include photographs of precisely what they have to offer. (The site has a policy against posting pornographic pictures, but it does not seem to be enforced very vigorously.)
In an exploration of the Casual Encounters world, more than 100 e-mail messages were sent to users requesting interviews before the recent murders. About a dozen frequent users, mostly men, consented to phone or e-mail interviews, some of which took place over the past three months.
Two men, Michael and Melvin, were willing to meet with a reporter in person, as long as they were identified only by their name on Craigslist. A few women who had posted ads were also forthcoming, but none of the women who had replied to Michael's or Melvin's ads consented to an interview.
Ads in the Casual Encounters section account for 2 percent of all Craigslist postings, according to the company. It also says that traffic to all the Craigslist personals sites -- which include a separate one for romance and one for "missed connections," where people try to find the cutie they flirted with on the subway -- is higher than for any other online personals site, including Match.com, eHarmony and Yahoo personals.
"Casual Encounters was created in response to user demand for a section that allowed for a wide range of personal meeting and relationship options," Craig Newmark, the founder of Craigslist, said by e-mail message before the recent murders took place. "In that sense, it's probably an accurate inside look at how people like to connect these days. Our users like the ability to be both candid and, initially, anonymous."
Within Casual Encounters, the most traditional of the categories -- men seeking women -- seems to raise the most tantalizing questions, given the reasonable assumption that most women (and even a few men) would prefer earnest courtship to a quickie with a stranger, no strings attached. For instance, does it really work?
The short answer is "yes." But as with so many things on Craigslist, the truth is a little dingier than what was promised. Among the stories told by users of Casual Encounters are those about the eager 22-year-old who turns out to be too shy to go through with it (and she's really 30), the woman who seems docile by e-mail but who turns violent after smoking a joint and the single mother who lies about dropping the children off at their grandmother's house for the night.
And then there are the legions of prostitutes and spammers who threaten to take over the Casual Encounters "community," which longtime users insist that it is.
"I think three or four years ago it was kind of a local community," Michael said. "You'd bump into the same people, and they weren't advertising or looking for services."
Tales of sexual encounters via Craigslist run the gamut from the erotic to the bizarre. Nola, a 42-year-old saleswoman who lives in Manhattan, posts elegantly written ads seeking a man who will meet her in a public place so she can go to the bathroom and remove her panties, which she will then hand to him in an envelope.
Michael, who is handsome and projects confidence, says he is an artist who began using the site to find models who would pose nude for him. Craigslist, he said, often fulfills its promise of delivering erotic thrills for a minimal effort.
"I've met some extraordinarily beautiful women, had a few extraordinary sexual encounters that made my teeth itch and my brain sweat, put me in states of weird contemplation like, `My God, I've never experienced that before,"' he said.
Other men tell of sad, isolated women using the lure of easy sex to find companionship.
Melvin, who has thick brown hair and a pleasant, soft-spoken manner, said he began using the site when his wife left him for another man six months after their wedding. He describes the women he meets on Craigslist as "desperadoes."
"For some reason, guys are not interested in them," he said, "and when push gets to shove, they're so lonely that they think, `You know what, I'll get a guy to come see me and see what happens."'
Melvin concedes he could easily be describing his own state of mind after his divorce. "I didn't want to go out and have to talk about my divorce any more," he said. "But here I had somewhere to go online to meet people who were kind of anti-social like me, and it fills that void of loneliness."
Indeed, Melvin has dated a few women he was supposedly meeting just for sex, and even went out with one young woman, a recent transplant to New York from the South, several times without ever receiving so much as a kiss.
Erick Janssen, a researcher and associate scientist at the Kinsey Institute for Research in Sex, Gender and Reproduction, said that some need sex and sexual novelty more than others. "We know from basic sex research that anonymity can augment satisfaction in sexual arousal," he said.
As for Casual Encounters, he said, "What's going on isn't that different from years ago when people would go to different cities and nightclubs, and of course they still do."
Tom Brady, chief medical officer at the CRC Health Group in Cupertino, Calif., an addiction-treatment center, said there is no single personality type that is drawn to sites like Casual Encounters, but there are common denominators, like a penchant for risk-seeking.
"A lot of these people have a narcissistic, sociopathic side where they don't have a lot of empathy for other people," he said. "The Internet is fabulous for these people."
Casual Encounters is also a haven for people with sex addictions. "They're like a kid in a candy store," Brady said.
Nola, for instance, said in a telephone interview that she got an erotic thrill from giving men her used underwear, knowing they would serve as fetish objects. She started doing this last June after she thought, "I wear underpants every single day of my life, and somebody's got to want these underpants." The recipients, she said, pay her a small replacement fee.
Nola has acquired a stalker as a result of her actions, but still distributes her panties. She does not have sex with the men she meets online, meets them only in public places, and keeps a file of their names and photos, making sure a friend knows where to find it. She doesn't limit herself to straight men. "I put ads up for lesbians looking for women's undies, gay men looking for undies, rough-and-tumble guys," she said. "This is just me sitting and being silly."
That there is prostitution on the site is no secret. In 2006, Nassau County in New York's Long Island set up a prostitution sting operation focusing on Craigslist; around the country, the police routinely arrest prostitutes operating on the site. Craigslist reached an agreement last year with state attorneys general to charge a $5 fee and require a phone number for people posting "erotic services." A company statement said the move led to an immediate 80 percent drop in postings to that section.
Casual Encounters users say those people have simply resurfaced on their turf. "What that's done is made Casual Encounters just one big free-for-all, and like one ugly market," Michael said.
Men willing to pay for sex often disguise their intent slightly by using "roses" as code for money, as in, "I have 100 roses for someone willing to spend the afternoon with me."
Also rampant is the search for drugs. Cocaine-users say they are looking to "ski" or searching for "ski bunnies" who will presumably trade sex for drugs, and pot smokers use a longtime code term for marijuana, 420, to identify themselves.
Other sites have popped up in recent years to siphon off the Casual Encounters crowd, like *************.com, which helps married people find affairs. There is no pretense that anything but sex is being offered, which is just fine for people with louche tastes looking to avoid polite society.
"My mother is on Match.com," Melvin said. "So there's no way I'm going to be on there."
Mister Quick
05-06-09, 09:55
The popular Web site Craigslist is facing an ultimatum.
South Carolina's attorney general told the company to remove what he describes as ads for prostitution or face a possible criminal investigation.
Illinois' attorney general isn't going that far but says Craigslist broke an agreement to eliminate illegal activity.
Craigslist struck a deal with 40 state attorneys general to police its erotic postings more thoroughly. Now several of those officials say the managers of the Web site have failed to live up to their end of the bargain.
Forty million people use Craigslist every month searching for everything from cars to furniture. But it's come under increasing pressure from government officials who say it's also used by people placing ads for prostitution.
Now the South Carolina attorney general has given the web site managers 10 days to remove postings that he says are pornographic or encourage prostitution. If they don't he threatens a criminal action.
"It is nothing but filth, it is an advertisement for prostitution. It is ugly, it is harmful and there is no reason on earth why that is being allowed to be sent into South Carolina," said Henry McMaster, South Carolina attorney general.
Under the November deal with the 40 attorneys general, Craigslist agreed to charge $5 to $10 dollars for erotic services postings and to require people who submit those postings to submit a phone number.
Lisa Madigan is one of the attorneys general who says the site hasn't lived up to the deal.
In a letter to the CEO of Craigslist Madigan says: "The evidence is overwhelming that Craigslist has otherwise breached the agreement by failing to develop and effective screening process....It is clear that the erotic services section continues to facilitate the exploitation of women in Illinois and in states across the nation."
Critics have focused on several high profile crimes allegedly involving the site. They include the so-called Craigslist killer, a man police say targeted women who posted on the site and who allegedly killed one of them.
But there are attorneys who don't think a successful case can be brought against Craigslist. Under federal law sites are usually not liable for postings submitted by users.
Madigan has requested information on the number of erotic postings in Illinois removed by Craigslist this year. She says she wants that information by Friday.
In a recent interview, Craig Newmark, the founder of the Web site, denied that it facilitates prostitution and said he had no plans to change the erotic services section.
Mrmassage666
05-10-09, 05:18
I saw Diana Moss years ago on the North Side. She was a short bouncy girl next door. Does anyone have any cool experiences with her? Post here or message me.
Does anyone know if she is still out there?
Thanks!
I got a massage from her, her fingers came close to my boys when I was on my front side. What a turn on. She had a big german shepard. wow what a mutt!
She stretched my legs didn't seem to mind that the cover came off a few times.
I gave her a hug and invited her to dinner sometime and she was luke warm on the idea and later said 'no.'
Thanks in advance.
MM
Burnt Star
05-13-09, 13:20
Just jumped on CL and the Erotic section comes up empty. An Adult section was added but looks like only "massages" will be offered. Also, CV also must have been linked because I'm coming up with errors.
Just jumped on CL and the Erotic section comes up empty. An Adult section was added but looks like only "massages" will be offered. Also, CV also must have been linked because I'm coming up with errors.Striking a New Balance
May 13th, 2009 by jim
As of today for all US craigslist sites, postings to the “erotic services” category will no longer be accepted, and in 7 days the category will be removed.
Also effective today for all US sites, a new category entitled “adult services” will be opened for postings by legal adult service providers. Each posting to this new category will be manually reviewed before appearing on the site, to ensure compliance with craigslist posting guidelines and terms of use. New postings will cost $10, but once approved, will be eligible for reposting at $5.
Unsurprisingly, but completely contrary to some of the sensationalistic journalism we’ve seen these past few weeks, the record is clear that use of craigslist classifieds is associated with far lower rates of violent crime than print classifieds, let alone rates of violent crime pertaining to American society as a whole.
The relative safety of craigslist compared to print classifieds is likely due to some combination of:
* Measures such as blocking, screening, and telephone verification
* Community moderation via our flagging system
* Electronic trail ensures violent criminals are quickly caught
* Personal safety tips prominently posted
* Unusually high level of cooperation with law enforcement
Community moderation as exemplified by our flagging system is arguably the most successful system ever conceived for eliminating inappropriate activity from a massive internet community. Working in tandem with various other protective technologies, it is an inescapable force to be reckoned with for anyone set on abusing free internet communications across a broad array of posting types.
However, with respect to this new paid category for advertising by legal businesses, we will experiment with some of the methods traditionally employed in paid print classifieds.
We’d like to thank everyone who has provided helpful input over the past few weeks, all of which was closely considered:
* Our users, whose suggestions shape every aspect of craigslist
* Attorneys General, who provided valuable constructive criticism
* Law Enforcement officers nationwide, hugely supportive as always
* Legally compliant businesses wishing to advertise their services
* EFF and other experts defending free speech and Internet law
We are optimistic that the new balance struck today will be an acceptable compromise from the perspective of these constituencies, and for the diverse US communities that value and rely upon craigslist.
Note: Our announced intention to contribute 100% of net revenues for the “erotic services” category to charity has been fulfilled, and will continue to be fulfilled, notwithstanding criticism questioning our good faith in this regard. However, in light of today’s changes, and to avoid any future misunderstanding, we are making no representation regarding how revenue from the “adult services” category will be used. Our commitment to philanthropy remains, and craigslist will continue to develop its charitable initiatives.
I am interested in getting a disposable phone.
Does anyone have recommendations on the best or cheapest places to get one?
Discretewill
08-19-09, 15:11
I am interested in getting a disposable phone.
Does anyone have recommendations on the best or cheapest places to get one?I've read on other regions forums about Big Lots having a cheapo, like 20 or 30 bucks, disposable cell.
I have not been to my local Big Lots to check - but might be worth the stop.
George W. Bush
08-20-09, 11:58
I picked one up to keep as a spare at Target, it was only $25 or so. This is just in case my good phone takes a dump on me, I know my carrier offers loaners but they don't offer them at 3 AM.
I see a online pharmacy advertises on our forum here.
Has anyone tried them? Are thier products effective?
Thanks!
I just love going to Benetton to try on clothes because they have curtains instead of doors on the dressing rooms. Almost 100% of the time I walk into the dressing room to try something on, I can get a room where I can see out from mine and into the room of a hot babe undressing. It's awesome!
I'm always looking for other stores with similar dressing room set ups. I'm just wondering if anyone else has any stores they know where you can try on clothes and see into other dressing rooms at the same time.
Dude, wtf, peeping at women in a dressing room? Do you know how risky that is, they could absolutely call police if they suspect that is your motive and wouldn't want something like that on my record. Easier ways to look at women undressing.
Dude, wtf, peeping at women in a dressing room? Do you know how risky that is, they could absolutely call police if they suspect that is your motive and wouldn't want something like that on my record. Easier ways to look at women undressing.
Thanks for the concern. My record is clean, and I certainly won't want something like that on it.
However, I don't think I have to worry too much. I'm simply a paying customer trying on clothing in the dressing rooms. The female patrons always seem to leave nice gaps in the curtains, and I simply do the same. The mirrors on the opposite walls make it really easy to "accidentally" look up and right into the adjacent rooms.
I just wish I know of more department stores that have coed dressing rooms with curtains rather than doors.
Mongo Monger
09-24-09, 13:20
Looking for ANY info for areas south of the city... IE: Kankakee, Bourbanais/Bradly and so on. U can either reply here or PM me. Thanx
SpokenOne69
09-24-09, 16:01
Try Joliet section Look for Spa 7. That is in Morris.
Mongo Monger
09-24-09, 16:34
And maybe some street info.
SpokenOne69
09-25-09, 09:04
If you have the time to drive around K3, exit from I57 at Route 17 head west into the heart of the city. Usually, something can be found. Especially around the "poorer" sections
No specific crossroads. But, where there is poverty, drugs & crime, prostituion is somewhere in the area
FYI I have seen ladies working but they are not very obvious. I had a few accounts in that neighborhood and would see them occasionally. But, this was a few years ago. Still would give it a try and report back
Mister Quick
10-28-09, 08:48
A woman is suing her husband after contracting a sexually transmitted disease that*he allegedly contracted from*his sexual relations with prostitutes and other women during their marriage.
According to the complaint, the husband contracted trichomoniasis from one or more sexual encounters with prostitutes and passed it on*to his wife, the unnamed plaintiff, while they were actively trying to conceive a child during the course of their less than two year marriage.*
Plaintiff learned that she had contracted trichomoniasis after*a visit to her doctor for extreme pain and discomfort that she was experiencing during and after intercourse with her husband.
When the*plaintiff confronted her husband on September 18, 2009, he admitted to the extramarital encounters, including unprotected sex with a prostitute in a sex club, and she demanded that he be tested for other STDs and immediately furnish her with the results.
However, the defendant delayed until late on October 8, 2009 before finally providing plaintiff with the results, which are still incomplete, the complaint states.
The complaint further*states that "while depriving Plaintiff of the results of the medical tests...Defendant was instead attending Chicago Bears games and partying with his brother and friends."
Plaintiff is suing for, among other things, battery and intentional*infliction of emotional distress.
Wanttoknow67
10-28-09, 18:07
I see a online pharmacy advertises on our forum here.
Has anyone tried them? Are thier products effective?
Thanks!I tried them because they are an advertiser here. Never hurts to support you advertisers.
I just completed an order and everything was great.
Good stuff works fine. Prices are great if you consider the shipping is free. ADC maybe cheaper on larger orders but I was just trying them out and I didn't want to have a large stash of bad stuff.
Packaging was just what they said it would be and arrived on day 9. They say 7 - 14.
PussyPoker
10-28-09, 21:02
I'm going north for a week of mongering. Windsor, Toronto and Niagra. I need a throw away phone. Any ideas.
Prowler069
10-31-09, 05:54
I'm going north for a week of mongering. Windsor, Toronto and Niagra. I need a throw away phone. Any ideas.
Go to walmart and pickup a trac phone.
Mister Quick
11-05-09, 10:18
An Illinois man who hired a prostitute who turned out to be 15 has been sentenced to 50 days in jail.
42 year old James of Elgin pleaded guilty to sex and drug charges and was sentenced Tuesday in Lane County (Oregon) Circuit Court. He also must serve five years on probation and register as a sex offender.
His attorney said James had responded to an online advertisement for a woman who presented herself as a 19-year-old prostitute last spring when he was on a business trip.
But prosecutors said James knew the girl was much younger as soon as he met her. Maybe she asked him to buy her some smokes or something.
Investigators said James was arrested after they got a tip from the girl's mother that she'd seen Internet ads promoting her runaway daughter as a prostitute.
Mister Quick
01-21-10, 10:57
Police said a man and woman from New Hampshire are each facing prostitution charges after the man called police to say he'd paid for sex, but the woman then refused. WMUR-TV reported a 22-year-old woman and 32-year-old man were cited into court at a later date.
Police said the man called Marlborough Police on Monday to say he'd paid the woman and a third party $150 to have sex with him on Sunday, but she wouldn't follow through.
Police said they're still investigating the third party.
Doing some searching and there doesn't seem to be any real tantra providers around, only one that comes close is Maarit. Can anyone steer me in the right direction, pm me if needed.
Thanks
Rub & Tugged
02-24-10, 17:14
this is a first for me
Stud Muffin314
03-07-10, 08:34
I am wondering if anyone has been able to make mongering connections via chat rooms? I was in a room called "Married but Looking" on Friday and made contact with a bored housewife. We chatted online for an hour and during that time I told her about my desires to meet up with someone for modeling and massage. She shared with me that she too is looking for excitement and quoted me a ridiculously high amount for that service. This had me wondering if anyone has every made a good mongering connection via the chat rooms? Please post or I'm me with your experiences on this topic.
Horny Dog #2
03-18-10, 23:19
I have a question for those you pay attention to the ads on this sight.
Several months ago (maybe 4-6 months ago, but I'm guessing about the time), this site was running a banner ad on the top of the page for a site that I thought I remembered was called "XXXdreams"
A couple of times I clicked on the ad and navigated around the site, but I never bookmarked it. The site offered a service where you could be in a porn movie with actual European pornstars. They were based in Europe (I think it was either Hungary or Czech Republic), and you would have to go there to participate. Since I occasionally travel to Europe on business, I thought I would keep this service in mind since the idea intrigued me. It wasn't cheap, but it would be a once-in-a-lifetime treat if I did it.
Anyway, now I can't even find the site. Obviously, the banner ad at the top of this site is no longer there. I don't know if the site went down or if my memory of what it was called is wrong. I've Googled "XXXdreams" and several other similar spellings.
Does anyone else remember the banner ad that used to run on this site?
I remember reading about a brothel in Europe where your session were video taped and you had to sign a release form prior to participation. Hell I even think in was on TV, 20/20 or something like that.
Al Melrose
03-19-10, 01:40
I don't remember the place, but yesterday I saw show on the National Geographic channel that featured a place in the Czech Republic that did this.
Guys are free if they allow the session to be web-broadcast.
Should be able to find on line.
Mister Quick
04-07-10, 09:09
The experienced motorist will have seen a multitude of road signs warning of children crossing, elderly pedestrians and wildlife.
But this one would surely prompt a second glance. Some might say that the image of a well-endowed woman in mini-skirt and high heels is, in itself, a hazard.*
Giovanni Azzolini, mayor of Mogliano in the Italian province of Treviso, however says that some motorists were having accidents after being distracted by scantily-dressed hookers, many of them transexuals.
Aside from generating - presumably - plenty of wolf whistles from passing 'gents loo' and 'men at work' road sign silhouettes, the warning is also creating plenty of confusion in Treviso.
Actually, while the sign is warning of prostitutes, locals (and pretty much everyone else) are confused by the meaning. Does it mean prostitutes might be crossing the road?* Does it mean that the neighborhood where the sign is located in Treviso, Italy, is a working girl work zone?* Does it mean wild prostitutes might come darting out of the bushes alongside the road and jump out into traffic like deer?
We need signs like this in America!
I read somewhere that IL is going to make prostitution into a felony. Anyone know about this?
I guess this will create more work for the police union, the prison guards union, the connected contractors who build prisons, the mandated union construction workers, the lawyers union BAR assoc, and the politicians can demand more contributions from all of the above.
Talk about a lot of pimps to support.
I suspect you are referring to HB6195 that makes various prostitution offenses that are now misdemeanors into felonies. There is another bill that is currently before the legislature, HB6462, which also concerns sex crimes but it is concerned with closing loopholes that exist in the current law (for example, pimping involves taking money from a prostitute, but under current law you can avoid the pimping statue by having the customer give the money to the pimp directly). HB6462 does not change generally change the criminal level of prostitution offenses (i.e from misdemeanor to felony). Neither of these bills has been passed as a law as of yet but are under consideration in the legislature. If you want to lobby your legislature to oppose a law, then I suppose that HB6195 is the one of greater concern since HB6462 is primarily directed at various service providers.
At any rate, you should be aware that under current law, prostitution offenses that occur within 1000 feet of a school ground are felonies. That means if you get busted at an MP that is operating within 1000 feet of a school ground, you could get hit with a felony charge.
One other point that I might add is that you can get hit with a felony charge for prostitution offenses as a customer under current law even if you are not in the vacinity of a school ground. What HB6462 does is make it easier for you to get hit with a felony charge. For example, under current law, you can think of a prostitution transaction as having two parts: a solicatitation part (where you solicit the service) and a patronizing part (where you get the service). Under current law, you can get hit with two separate counts: one for solicitation and one for patronizing. This would allow a prosecutor to pursue a felony charge for a first time prostitution offense (I might add that repeat offenders can get hit with a felony charge for a second single charge).
So as you see, under current law it is rather difficult to get a felony charge against a customer for a first time offense. But HB6462 would allow a prosecutor to file a felony charge for the solicitation part or the patronizing part of the transaction.
As a disclaimer, I have not listed all possibilities under which a customer can get charged with a felony but enough to give you an idea that a felony charge is a possibility. For more details about you actual legal rights you would be better served by consulting an attorney who practices this kind of stuff.
I read somewhere that IL is going to make prostitution into a felony. Anyone know about this?
I guess this will create more work for the police union, the prison guards union, the connected contractors who build prisons, the mandated union construction workers, the lawyers union BAR assoc, and the politicians can demand more contributions from all of the above.
Talk about a lot of pimps to support.
http://chicago.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-absolutely-gorgeous-specials-21/5834760
Has anyone used this service, info is limited.
I'm heading down in a couple weeks, if anyone has tips or suggestions on where to go in the area can you send me a PM?
Lqqkn Round
11-17-10, 14:37
I am wondering if anyone has been able to make mongering connections via chat rooms? I was in a room called "Married but Looking" on Friday and made contact with a bored housewife. We chatted online for an hour and during that time I told her about my desires to meet up with someone for modeling and massage. She shared with me that she too is looking for excitement and quoted me a ridiculously high amount for that service. This had me wondering if anyone has every made a good mongering connection via the chat rooms? Please post or I'm me with your experiences on this topic.Many years ago I belonged to a site called Dreamscapes, I believe it was located in Grayslake, anyway I went to several of thier parties / get togethers and had lots of fun. I know that one time a girl was coming to Chicago from somewhere in Texas so a get together was had while she was here to meet some of the members she had spoken with.
It was a sad day when that site went down!
Lqqkn
Imwithstupid
11-29-10, 00:22
Complaint of the day: The economy still sucks, my paycheck's been downsized, my "entertainment budget" is nonexistant and Stupid hasn't been out to play since July. My right hand's about ready to take out a restraining order on him.
Stud Muffin314
11-29-10, 08:27
The holidays are coming. Buy your partner a new pair of soft leather gloves and a nice bottle of hand lotion. Get a name brand, not a generic. Your partner will be deeply moved, drop the threats of a restraining order, so you can continue to maintain the nice close relationship until the economy improves. Remember you have two partners, so give your primary partner a break occasionally by giving your other partner some of your special attention. Just remember to keep your 'hand' in the game until you can get back out there again.
Imwithstupid
11-29-10, 23:52
You're right! Been a longer while since I've had a good three-way.
In case nobody knows of this service here is a good place to try and verify THINGS. Any other tools post or PM me. I throw this offer out. If anyone wishes to give a referal PM me (I am willing to pay for it). In or around 10miles of GH.
I stopped by the other day and the experience was average at best. NOBODY is HOT their. Nice easy on the eyes? Yes but not HOT. I forgot to consider the SOURCE on these review's LOL.
Anyway, I don't have the time or want to spend $$$ wasting my time in finding what I am looking for.
http://www.melissadata.com/
Young Scout
01-09-11, 13:26
Hey guys, I've been a member here for a while but I'm not really active on it.
I was wondering if anyone was interested in starting a photo studio with me? I got the skills, I can get the girls, I just need a partner who has a spot I can shoot at and who can possibly help with the funding. Thanks people. Pm me for more details.
Grand Master B
07-06-11, 08:48
Hi everyone,
For quite sometime I have been able to find pregnant ladies on BP, but they are all gone now. I know they are still out there. Please let me know, if you know of any in the Chicagoland area.
Any assistance would be great!
Head First
07-06-11, 19:55
Hi, You posted a while back about setting up a studio. Are you still looking for a place / partner. I have some ideas.
Hey guys, I've been a member here for a while but I'm not really active on it.
I was wondering if anyone was interested in starting a photo studio with me? I got the skills, I can get the girls, I just need a partner who has a spot I can shoot at and who can possibly help with the funding. Thanks people. Pm me for more details.
Going home from work. Had several bottles of wine-empty, of course, in my car. I like to have a few on the drive home. Anyway, car's following me, which I don't like cause of the glare, so I pull over to the curb to let him pass. Next thing I know, LEO's pulling me over. Scared the shit out of me cause I had all those empty bottles in my car. I've already played the DUI game and it's no fun. LEO takes my license and proof of insurance; then after a few minutes-while I'm shitting brinks-he comes back and says "use your turn signal". Then I'm on my way. The sigh of relief can still be heard as I write this!
Anyway, mongers, the whole point of this story is to do as is written in the "Rules for Street Mongering"! Drive like you're a preacher on your way to a Sunday sermon, especially when you're on the prowl!
Kda Kodiac
11-29-11, 19:44
Going home from work. Had several bottles of wine-empty, of course, in my car. I like to have a few on the drive home.You are really living a charmed life. I was not so lucky with 1/2 six pack closed in my back see. Spent time in Walworth Wisc because of this. Another reason I can not stand Wisc PD.
Going home from work. Had several bottles of wine-empty, of course, in my car. I like to have a few on the drive home.
You are really living a charmed life. I was not so lucky with 1/2 six pack closed in my back see. Spent time in Walworth Wisc because of this. Another reason I can not stand Wisc PD.Walworth county is the worst in the state, and just for those of you who don't know they hate us people from Illinois up there. I lived in Darian then Delevan for a short time and know for a fact they will pull you over if you have Illinois plates just to f*k with you!
I see their location is pretty close to me. Question do they take walk up applications? Or is it Mail and Internet only? Any insight appreciated. I prefer not letting anybody have my info. But I see here are alot of hotties out there requiring it.
TY
CTmongerX1
06-16-12, 16:48
Sex clubs around the Chicago area. I have tried two. Obviously not pay for play. The screening process is worse than the 2 or 3 call system for Asian apartments. Find the web site, send an email with a photo, list experiences and interests, then talk to a screener. Has anyone tried Casual Encouters, they advertise a regular Friday party on CL.
CTm
My company merged with another and the all company vehicles now have gps tracking. I guess my mongering days are numbered, hard to justify sales calls for light industrial at motels and apartment complexes. Anyone else have do deal with this? If so, how?
I've never been out there but there is no board for East St. Louis Illinois. I was wondering why because it's a decent size area and from what I have heard through the grape vine there is a significant amount of SW activity in the city in general.
Nomad.
The East St Louis SW activity is covered in the Brooklyn IL section.
KS.
SpokenOne69
10-07-12, 12:48
There is plenty in the ESL area to keep you busy.
Try Washington Park, Centreville, Sauget Just about anywhere you seen despondent people, you will find what you are looking for.
Boys, it's good to be back. Had GF for a number of years and she kept very strong tabs on me. Now SHE'S GONE GONE GONE GONE!
That being said, the GF was a nice little Spanish spinner who like to f*k alot
SpokenOne69
10-07-12, 13:03
I know that this is not the correct area for Gary. However, I don't like to post about CT's in the NW Indiana. CT's is crowded as it is. Anyway, here goes:
Finally got rid of the GF. I head to Gary to celebratre. WTF I now can stay and / or wait as long as I want.
After waiting 74 minutes for couples or girls for play to show, a slight Spanish looking lady walkes into the waiting area asking for directions. There were about 8 of us in the waiting area. All of us look at each other and ask ourselves "Does she know what kind of place this is"?
She was a bit incoherent. In walks her black friend. 5' 4" 149 3/4 lbs. She starts asking some questions. We gather around her and say we can talk about directions in the theatre."Theatre? What's that?" We will show you.
4 minutes later she is nude on the stage and asking for head. She probably came hard 6 or 7 times all the while asking us to cum on her chest. Her little firend also performed, but reluctantly.
Finally, one of the best CBJ from Pocohantas I have had in a long, long time due to the spontenity (sp?) of the whole thing. That's alot said considering that it was CT's
Looking for some fun around the Casino, any ideas. You can pm me or e-mail. Could do incall or out. Thanks for help.
SpokenOne69
05-15-13, 20:54
First of all, Thanks Jackson for fixing my user name etc Not too astute with IT stuff.
I travel daily thru good known SW areas and will post accordingly.
Have seen a few on North Ave CentrLish They seem to be acting low key with their head on a swivel thougb Keep your eyes open They are out there
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Had seen Cami few nights ago real young nice lady. I had a good time and will deff. see her again, maybe next time I will try the two girl she had mentioned next time. I do recommend seeing her.
Please be aware that USASG is now on Google's "Blacklist", so users are getting a dire warning when attempting to access USASG that the site is the source of viruses and malware. The Google warning then goes on to explain that they have no evidence whatever to support their claims, but want to warn their customers. It's censorship, pure and simple.
Edge.
I was wondering how to contact the admin to tell them this last night and now I know.
Please be aware that USASG is now on Google's "Blacklist", so users are getting a dire warning when attempting to access USASG that the site is the source of viruses and malware. The Google warning then goes on to explain that they have no evidence whatever to support their claims, but want to warn their customers. It's censorship, pure and simple.
Edge.
My anti-virus software detected a Trojan when was trying to browse yesterday. Could be related.
Nothing today though.
Please be aware that USASG is now on Google's "Blacklist", so users are getting a dire warning when attempting to access USASG that the site is the source of viruses and malware. The Google warning then goes on to explain that they have no evidence whatever to support their claims, but want to warn their customers. It's censorship, pure and simple.
Edge.
When I landed on USASG tonight, I get a "Do you want to trust the website "usasexguide.info" to use the "Java" plug-in from my browser, Safari 6.1 (7537.71). Since I have not seen this before, I thought I would bring it to your attention.
I did upgrade Safari in the not too recent past but this is the second time (last night) I received this warning.
Hi, I'm visting Chicago on business trip and would be staying in one of the hotels in Schuamburg or Elgin. Will be heading to a casino and try my luck but any help about girls on BP would be appreciated. Feel free to PM me as well. Always happy to return the favor.
Wishing all you horny fuckers a happy holiday.
DMichaels69
12-27-13, 10:22
You have a great holiday too. Happy Mongering.
Wishing all you horny fuckers a happy holiday.
DMichaels69
12-27-13, 10:23
This is coming up as a reported attack site again.
Yesmilkman
01-18-14, 18:10
I Too got hit with a virus from this site, long time user first time happened. PITA to remove. Scam virus says to give them your CC card and they will fix.
Never do this. I googled a fix, tool a few hours and was done. Kina of scary, and I have protection on my system.
Yesmilkman
01-18-14, 18:14
Does anyone have any experience with this site?
Is it a scam? Are the girls just seeking an arrangemnet. I signed up for free and now I get tons of requests, but you have to pay to talk to them.
Any thoughts?
HardwareMan42
01-19-14, 11:53
Does anyone have any experience with this site?
Is it a scam? Are the girls just seeking an arrangemnet. I signed up for free and now I get tons of requests, but you have to pay to talk to them.
Any thoughts?Sucker born every minute. Double your money, fold it in half and put it back in your pocket.
Tunacasserole
06-07-14, 17:25
http://chicago.backpage.com/adult/?keyword=904%20465%202224
Michelle from Elk Grove Village. She's the most next-door of any girl-next-door I've ever seen but now her phone is disconnected. She was paying on BP just recently.
SexxyDiva9
07-12-14, 09:44
Does anyone have any experience with this site?
Is it a scam? Are the girls just seeking an arrangemnet. I signed up for free and now I get tons of requests, but you have to pay to talk to them.
Any thoughts?Its a legit site, but in my opinion confused views. They allow girls to join and respond for free. The guys pay. The guys can post anything to demonstrate their interest in being sugar baby, but they will not allow escorts to sign up on the site. They believe that what they are doing is different and that escorts offer a different experience. The girls are expecting money for time. Escorts expecting money for time. No difference. I don't like the site. They have been on many shows like Dr. Phil and Wendy Williams. The guy is Asian and has like 4 different sites. Go on You Tube to see the many clips of shows they have about this guy and the site.
Iamjacks sigh of relief.
I just posted last night on these boards and the New York boards and I think the Massachusetts boards and already I've had offers of help and assistance from the Chicago boards somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 X I think I'm going to spend a few extra days Chicago just to check it out I also used to live in the Detroit area and posted on the Detroit and surrounding area boards as well insofar Chicago seems the most helpful if you read my posts on the Montana boards you'll see how hard it is sometimes when you're traveling for a living but even though I'm probably never goinggoing to assist anybody from Montana anybody going to Montana can have me for assistance and I'll tell them everything they need to know and a special thanks to you guys know who you are but help me sent me pm's and did those from the Florida boards that are following my travels around this countryMontana is a great state to visit especially the Bozeman area but no real game to be had on any of the boards.
Sam Singer
02-28-15, 02:35
This is a long shot but let me try. This provider who is black used to offer 'massage' and other services from her apartment on lake-cook road near the Rt. 53 exit on the south side of Lake cook road. Her apartment was on the top floor and she used to offer a-la-carte services. I have never had a massage from her. The last I remember seeing her was 4 years or so. I wonder if she is still in business. Does anyone recognize her based on the above sketchy description? Please send me a PM if you have details about her. Thanks.
Nuru Lover
03-05-15, 23:28
There was someone advertising there within the last year or so. I called to check it out but I backed out when I realized that it wasn't an AMP. I was hoping that it was an AMP at that Lake Cook Commons shopping center, when I realized it was a nearby apt, I lost interest. I'd like to say that there is an occasional ad still in Massage Services in BP, but I'm not sure.
Sam Singer
03-06-15, 01:26
There was someone advertising there within the last year or so. I called to check it out but I backed out when I realized that it wasn't an AMP. I was hoping that it was an AMP at that Lake Cook Commons shopping center, when I realized it was a nearby apt, I lost interest. I'd like to say that there is an occasional ad still in Massage Services in BP, but I'm not sure.Thanks. That may be her. I will watch that spac.
ReadyForRub
03-06-15, 15:17
This is a long shot but let me try. This provider who is black used to offer 'massage' and other services from her apartment on lake-cook road near the Rt. 53 exit on the south side of Lake cook road. Her apartment was on the top floor and she used to offer a-la-carte services. I have never had a massage from her. The last I remember seeing her was 4 years or so. I wonder if she is still in business. Does anyone recognize her based on the above sketchy description? Please send me a PM if you have details about her. Thanks.It's got to be a year or so ago. Gave a decent massage, but it was going to take multiple visits to get much more. She indicated future visits would be discounted by $50 from her published rate. Pleasant woman from Jamaica as I remember. Haven't seen a post reminding me of her in a long time.
Nuru Lover
03-07-15, 11:40
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/perfect-touch-deep-freeze-specialwarm-fireplace-warm-handsfrom-80-847903-1573/6820008
This appears to be the ad I was referring to, she last posted on Feb19. Good luck.
Rocket Dork
03-09-15, 16:10
Mailbox is full. Rocket Dork.
Finally had my encounter with Stacey a few days ago. She is everything as described here before. Best service I had! Its been five days and I am still limp from the explosions.
Sam Singer
03-13-15, 00:42
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/perfect-touch-deep-freeze-specialwarm-fireplace-warm-handsfrom-80-847903-1573/6820008
This appears to be the ad I was referring to, she last posted on Feb19. Good luck.It is tantalizingly close Nuru Lover. The sensual variation in her offer makes me think this is the same girl. Thanks.
ReadyForRub, does this seem like the same provider you had massage with?
ReadyForRub
03-13-15, 15:15
It is tantalizingly close Nuru Lover. The sensual variation in her offer makes me think this is the same girl. Thanks.
ReadyForRub, does this seem like the same provider you had massage with?The address description is identical. This ad is a little more specific, but it certainly could be her.
Sam Singer
03-14-15, 01:07
The address description is identical. This ad is a little more specific, but it certainly could be her.Thanks. I just remembered today that she used to live in that Country Glen Apartments, just a bit east of where Rt 53. ioins with Lake Cook. In the top floor of one of the many apartment buildings. The address in the ad places her a little bit south west of there, not too far though. It is possible she moved. I will still give her a try. If she is chatty enough, I guess I can ask her if she used to live in Country Glen.
Undie Radar
03-14-15, 05:27
It is tantalizingly close Nuru Lover. The sensual variation in her offer makes me think this is the same girl. Thanks.
ReadyForRub, does this seem like the same provider you had massage with?And found this review:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=126376
Sam Singer
03-14-15, 18:07
And found this review:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=126376Hmmm. I am now beginning to think this is not the woman I am looking for. In 2010 or 2011, She openly advertised extras and both times what I partook was the extras.
ReadyForRub
03-15-15, 12:26
Lots of info at http://bitchesofbackpage.com/..
Hi everyone I know I only have a couple posts but I'm just asking for a good person willing to provide me with some info of a provider in the northwest area I'm around elgin area but I'm willing to travel. I have a lot of reviews on the other site and I can give you info about those providers anyone willing to help just PM. If is a car date I'm fine with it too! Thanks before hand!
Osaka spa in morris was shut down by authorities last night. Numerous charges and owners pled guilty and agreed to shut down. Closure will be indefinitely. Osaka used to be 7 spa in morris and 7 spa was closed just over a year ago. Sun spa is the only other spa in morris and they are still open.
ReadyForRub
03-18-15, 22:27
Drive through IA today on I-80, and saw an interesting group of facilities at various rest areas, accessible eastbound or westbound. Fuel, food, and merchandise were the named attractions. The chain Kum & Go caught my eye, and brought a smile to my face. Wouldn't it make a great massage salon chain?
Sam Singer
03-26-15, 01:50
Hmmm. I am now beginning to think this is not the woman I am looking for. In 2010 or 2011, She openly advertised extras and both times what I partook was the extras.I was driving by this area and on a whim drove in to Country Glen and see if the visual of which apartment building she was in came to me. Crazy I know but unfortunately I could not match up on the ground reality with my vague remembrance. Oh well. Still on the lookout.
Lots of info at http://bitchesofbackpage.com/..Thanks for sharing!
Sam Singer
03-29-15, 02:59
Lots of info at http://bitchesofbackpage.com/.Looks very useful. It will be even more useful if we can correlate the entries there with the (already posted or new) reviews and impressions posted in this board.
I do not have good ideas on yet on how to do that. If any of you can set something up, we can all pitch in with information and fill it out over time.
PussyPoker
05-13-15, 19:16
EXXXOTICA Expo.
CHICAGO, IL.
Jun 12th – 14th.
Rosemont.
Is anyone going?
The following ads are uncle LEO.
http://chicago.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/not-1-or-2-but-three-girl-special/27432341
http://chicago.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hot-and-spicy-latina-waiting-for-you/27430172
http://chicago.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/discreet-sensual-ebony-goddess/27430090
Be careful out there.
The following ads are uncle LEO.
http://chicago.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/not-1-or-2-but-three-girl-special/27432341
http://chicago.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hot-and-spicy-latina-waiting-for-you/27430172
http://chicago.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/discreet-sensual-ebony-goddess/27430090
Be careful out there.Can you at least give us a hint how you know this? They look like TGTBT and fake pictures, but that is normal these days.
Hammerhead2
05-20-15, 20:10
Can you at least give us a hint how you know this? They look like TGTBT and fake pictures, but that is normal these days.If he posted how he knows, then Uncle might change the ads to avoid detection.
Can you at least give us a hint how you know this? They look like TGTBT and fake pictures, but that is normal these days.I think that's simple enough, and LEO already knows it.
The spelling is correct. Most of these girls couldn't spell "dumb" to save their lives.
The price is too low for what is being offered. 150 and 120 for good looking escorts? No way, even if you do take the TGTBT factor into account.
I did a search on one of the numbers and got a page called Escort Busts. None of the numbers on these ads actually took me to an actual review.
Finally, Elk Grove Village doesn't like us, and has run stings in the past out of hotel rooms and they used low ball pricing to get the mongers in there.
Yes, these hot and spicy girls are waiting for you, with cuffs. And they'll take really hot pictures, of you holding up a number. Wonder why I stick to the AMPs? Because your chance of getting busted there are practically nil.
http://www.wrex.com/story/20564215/2013/01/11/study-claims-rockford-ranks-2nd-in-il-cities-for-purchase-of-sex
Somebody write her a letter and tell her we appreciate the publicity.
A2
http://www.wrex.com/story/20564215/2013/01/11/study-claims-rockford-ranks-2nd-in-il-cities-for-purchase-of-sex
Somebody write her a letter and tell her we appreciate the publicity.
A2I think the article is full of misleading statements and lies. I do not recall any conversations that condone violence against workers, or encourage drug use, or under age girls.
I think the article is full of misleading statements and lies. I do not recall any conversations that condone violence against workers, or encourage drug use, or under age girls.The funny thing about this article is that it was written and posted in January of 2013. Why is it popping up now? And I agree, I don't recall anyone in Rockford at least, condoning or even mentioning violence and purchasing drugs. We all know ther are girls out there who use drugs. Hard drugs. But I don't believe they get it from the "johns". Or even sell it to the "johns".
There's a reason it's called "the oldest profession".
I want to run something past you mongers and tell me if you have actually ever experienced it.
I've been looking through the Backpage ads and noticed a few of the asian spans are now used lines such as Best Lineup, New Lineup, etc.
Thinking back to when I used to make it to Executive Relaxation Station, the mother would have the girls line up for me to choose. And the one time I was in Reno, NV, back in the 90's, they did a lineup at one of those Oh So Famous brothels. I actually hated the Reno brothel, the provider (I won't use the be-word) got me in the room and it was up-charge for everything and she didn't deliver. Stupid me. And as for the Executive Relaxation Station, I noticed the older, chubbier ones provided great service and the younger, hotter looking ones just went through the motions.
But at an asian spa? In my 20+ years of going to them in Illinois, Georgia, North Carolina and even California, I have never had a lineup of the MTs. You are assigned one, and if you don't like her you can ask for someone else, but never an actual lineup.
So any of you guys ever get an asian lineup?
One other thing. Did you know that the pictures that the asian spas use feature women who do not actually work there? No, really, it's true!
I have mongered and Dallas and the AMP had a line up where you picked the girl. And these girls were in the 6-8 range AND about the same price you pay in Chicago.
I want to run something past you mongers and tell me if you have actually ever experienced it.
I've been looking through the Backpage ads and noticed a few of the asian spans are now used lines such as Best Lineup, New Lineup, etc.
Thinking back to when I used to make it to Executive Relaxation Station, the mother would have the girls line up for me to choose. And the one time I was in Reno, NV, back in the 90's, they did a lineup at one of those Oh So Famous brothels. I actually hated the Reno brothel, the provider (I won't use the be-word) got me in the room and it was up-charge for everything and she didn't deliver. Stupid me. And as for the Executive Relaxation Station, I noticed the older, chubbier ones provided great service and the younger, hotter looking ones just went through the motions.
But at an asian spa? In my 20+ years of going to them in Illinois, Georgia, North Carolina and even California, I have never had a lineup of the MTs. You are assigned one, and if you don't like her you can ask for someone else, but never an actual lineup.
So any of you guys ever get an asian lineup?
One other thing. Did you know that the pictures that the asian spas use feature women who do not actually work there? No, really, it's true!
I was at a NW burb AMP a few days ago, getting a really, really nice table shower from a pretty experienced MT. In fact I'd say what she was giving me at the table shower was about what you usually tip extra for later on. I complemented her while she was cleaning my package (slowly) about how good it felt and she says "I know!" A little surprised I says "Really? How do you know?" And she proceeds to tell me that on slow mornings the girls take to the sauna and then give each other table showers. Can I watch? She just laughed, but I was serious.
After all these years going to AMPs, I suppose it should have occurred to me that in order to give table showers, the MT might actually take one, unless they double-team with an experienced and novice MT. But it never did.
Now guys, what are you thinking of?
PussyPoker
10-10-15, 12:26
I was at a NW burb AMP a few days ago, getting a really, really nice table shower from a pretty experienced MT. In fact I'd say what she was giving me at the table shower was about what you usually tip extra for later on. I complemented her while she was cleaning my package (slowly) about how good it felt and she says "I know!" A little surprised I says "Really? How do you know?" And she proceeds to tell me that on slow mornings the girls take to the sauna and then give each other table showers. Can I watch? She just laughed, but I was serious.
After all these years going to AMPs, I suppose it should have occurred to me that in order to give table showers, the MT might actually take one, unless they double-team with an experienced and novice MT. But it never did.
Now guys, what are you thinking of?The hell with watching. I want to help wash everything. I was close onetime on giving a MT a TS. I would always make sure that I was her last appointment of the day. While I was giving here a massage I brought up the idea of the TS ad she said yes. But she would never go thought with it. I don't no why. We were the only ones in the place. I would help her lock up at night. I was already giving her nude massage's.
I want to run something past you mongers and tell me if you have actually ever experienced it.
I've been looking through the Backpage ads and noticed a few of the asian spans are now used lines such as Best Lineup, New Lineup, etc.
Thinking back to when I used to make it to Executive Relaxation Station, the mother would have the girls line up for me to choose. And the one time I was in Reno, NV, back in the 90's, they did a lineup at one of those Oh So Famous brothels. I actually hated the Reno brothel, the provider (I won't use the be-word) got me in the room and it was up-charge for everything and she didn't deliver. Stupid me. And as for the Executive Relaxation Station, I noticed the older, chubbier ones provided great service and the younger, hotter looking ones just went through the motions.
But at an asian spa? In my 20+ years of going to them in Illinois, Georgia, North Carolina and even California, I have never had a lineup of the MTs. You are assigned one, and if you don't like her you can ask for someone else, but never an actual lineup.
So any of you guys ever get an asian lineup?
One other thing. Did you know that the pictures that the asian spas use feature women who do not actually work there? No, really, it's true!About 10 years ago in the LA area several spas had a lineup. One took you to the area where the girls were sitting and you picked the one you wanted. Best part was there were Asians and Latinas to pick from. Trying to decide to have either Asian or Mexican food was oh so hard as was I.
I had one Latina's phone number. I would text her to let her know when I would be in town and find out where she was working that week. She introduced me to a lot of place I would not have known about. She also had a friend on the police force that warned her of any stings.
As for ERS in lillinois that's still a great place with a great line up. You can even go online and see when girls are working. Many tomes I choose the house mother whom I knew before she took that position. Beautiful sweet woman. There is another place in the sme town that also has a line up.
SF used to have big lineups like LA until loose lips killed the business.
I was at a NW burb AMP a few days ago, getting a really, really nice table shower from a pretty experienced MT. In fact I'd say what she was giving me at the table shower was about what you usually tip extra for later on. I complemented her while she was cleaning my package (slowly) about how good it felt and she says "I know!" A little surprised I says "Really? How do you know?" And she proceeds to tell me that on slow mornings the girls take to the sauna and then give each other table showers. Can I watch? She just laughed, but I was serious.
After all these years going to AMPs, I suppose it should have occurred to me that in order to give table showers, the MT might actually take one, unless they double-team with an experienced and novice MT. But it never did.
Now guys, what are you thinking of?I wish they weren't so selfish and shared me with one of the other girls for some 2 on 1 fun. Bad enough I have one mamasan who every now and then keeps me to herself. She likes to get on her knees to give me oral. Never had an MT who like doing that so much. She's even given me two cups from time to time. When I first met her was was the skinniest little thing. Now she's showing that she leads a good life and is bigger but man does she still have skills.
Put me down for wanting to see some girl-girl action. Even better if I can join in.
I was at a NW burb AMP a few days ago, getting a really, really nice table shower from a pretty experienced MT. In fact I'd say what she was giving me at the table shower was about what you usually tip extra for later on. I complemented her while she was cleaning my package (slowly) about how good it felt and she says "I know!" A little surprised I says "Really? How do you know?" And she proceeds to tell me that on slow mornings the girls take to the sauna and then give each other table showers. Can I watch? She just laughed, but I was serious.
After all these years going to AMPs, I suppose it should have occurred to me that in order to give table showers, the MT might actually take one, unless they double-team with an experienced and novice MT. But it never did.
Now guys, what are you thinking of?So wheer is the spa with the amazing table shower? Providers name?
Time for another "have you ever" moment. A few days ago I had to visit Schaumburg for business. I remembered seeing an ad on CL for a massage in Schaumburg, so I called and got an early evening appointment. Got to the location and I recognized the name as a Euro place you normally see in Northbrook. Anyways, in walks an eastern Euro blonde, about 40, pretty nice looking. She lets me in the room, we talk a little bit about who I saw in Northbrook before. But she has her back turned to me while I undress. I'm on the table and she immediately covers up the package. She turns on the radio and starts the massage. The massage was nothing, just rubbing. She let me touch her and didn't say a word, but just slowly moved away out of my reach. But what got to me was the music coming from the radio. She had turned on (or maybe its always on) a Christian music station. So I'm trying to relax and just maybe get in the mood, and I'm hearing about Jesus is coming soon, and You Are The One (not a love song) and I'll be Waiting (not a love song either), and the announcer comes on and tells me more about Jesus. And I'm thinking, did she do this to me to purposely turn me off? After 50 minutes it's all over with no satisfaction. I gave a nominal tip and was gone. On the way out I see a guy sitting in his car giving me the eye. As soon as I was in my car, in he walks. I have to believe he was waiting for his turn. Hope he had better luck than me. From the happy look on his face, I can see he was planning on it.
But here's the thing. I once had a Euro MT who I met thru Yuri (remember him?) who eventually let me take massage in her apartment. First time I'd seen her she'd given me 4 HJs in an hour. In her apartment I could get the same, but she had pictures of the Holy Family on the walls, Russian icons of Mary and Jesus, and status of Mary on the table. All this while she's got her top off, her boobs in my mouth and stroking Mr. Johnson for all it's worth.
I had another Euro place where the nice but slightly used up blonde MT would let me do a Russian finish. Nice, huh? Except one little thing. She had a small gold cross necklaces hanging between her lovelies which she didn't take off till I asked her. I didn't want to ask her why she would let me do that, as I didn't want to spoil the mood. But you can guess why I, who went to Catholic school, would have a problem shooting my load with that hanging there.
So what is up with this? Anyone else have this Christian provider experience? Is it for real, or a dodge in case LEO walks in?
Member #5008
11-08-15, 09:14
I will be in town on business and staying in Carol Stream. I am looking for a local incall or outcall girl. Preferred UTR. Any help would be appreciated.
Funny story!
There's an AMP in Schaumburg. I'm not sure what its called now, but I think its on Roselle road. The MP had christian music on as well. And extras were offered. Very "different" experience.
Time for another "have you ever" moment. A few days ago I had to visit Schaumburg for business. I remembered seeing an ad on CL for a massage in Schaumburg, so I called and got an early evening appointment. Got to the location and I recognized the name as a Euro place you normally see in Northbrook. Anyways, in walks an eastern Euro blonde, about 40, pretty nice looking. She lets me in the room, we talk a little bit about who I saw in Northbrook before. But she has her back turned to me while I undress. I'm on the table and she immediately covers up the package. She turns on the radio and starts the massage. The massage was nothing, just rubbing. She let me touch her and didn't say a word, but just slowly moved away out of my reach. But what got to me was the music coming from the radio. She had turned on (or maybe its always on) a Christian music station. So I'm trying to relax and just maybe get in the mood, and I'm hearing about Jesus is coming soon, and You Are The One (not a love song) and I'll be Waiting (not a love song either), and the announcer comes on and tells me more about Jesus. And I'm thinking, did she do this to me to purposely turn me off? After 50 minutes it's all over with no satisfaction. I gave a nominal tip and was gone. On the way out I see a guy sitting in his car giving me the eye. As soon as I was in my car, in he walks. I have to believe he was waiting for his turn. Hope he had better luck than me. From the happy look on his face, I can see he was planning on it.
But here's the thing. I once had a Euro MT who I met thru Yuri (remember him?) who eventually let me take massage in her apartment. First time I'd seen her she'd given me 4 HJs in an hour. In her apartment I could get the same, but she had pictures of the Holy Family on the walls, Russian icons of Mary and Jesus, and status of Mary on the table. All this while she's got her top off, her boobs in my mouth and stroking Mr. Johnson for all it's worth.
I had another Euro place where the nice but slightly used up blonde MT would let me do a Russian finish. Nice, huh? Except one little thing. She had a small gold cross necklaces hanging between her lovelies which she didn't take off till I asked her. I didn't want to ask her why she would let me do that, as I didn't want to spoil the mood. But you can guess why I, who went to Catholic school, would have a problem shooting my load with that hanging there.
So what is up with this? Anyone else have this Christian provider experience? Is it for real, or a dodge in case LEO walks in?
WhiteRookDown
11-09-15, 11:44
Wouldn't the Christian music and other items make it more conducive to doing Missionary work?
Time for another "have you ever" moment. A few days ago I had to visit Schaumburg for business. I remembered seeing an ad on CL for a massage in Schaumburg, so I called and got an early evening appointment. Got to the location and I recognized the name as a Euro place you normally see in Northbrook. Anyways, in walks an eastern Euro blonde, about 40, pretty nice looking. She lets me in the room, we talk a little bit about who I saw in Northbrook before. But she has her back turned to me while I undress. I'm on the table and she immediately covers up the package. She turns on the radio and starts the massage. The massage was nothing, just rubbing. She let me touch her and didn't say a word, but just slowly moved away out of my reach. But what got to me was the music coming from the radio. She had turned on (or maybe its always on) a Christian music station. So I'm trying to relax and just maybe get in the mood, and I'm hearing about Jesus is coming soon, and You Are The One (not a love song) and I'll be Waiting (not a love song either), and the announcer comes on and tells me more about Jesus. And I'm thinking, did she do this to me to purposely turn me off? After 50 minutes it's all over with no satisfaction. I gave a nominal tip and was gone. On the way out I see a guy sitting in his car giving me the eye. As soon as I was in my car, in he walks. I have to believe he was waiting for his turn. Hope he had better luck than me. From the happy look on his face, I can see he was planning on it.
But here's the thing. I once had a Euro MT who I met thru Yuri (remember him?) who eventually let me take massage in her apartment. First time I'd seen her she'd given me 4 HJs in an hour. In her apartment I could get the same, but she had pictures of the Holy Family on the walls, Russian icons of Mary and Jesus, and status of Mary on the table. All this while she's got her top off, her boobs in my mouth and stroking Mr. Johnson for all it's worth.
I had another Euro place where the nice but slightly used up blonde MT would let me do a Russian finish. Nice, huh? Except one little thing. She had a small gold cross necklaces hanging between her lovelies which she didn't take off till I asked her. I didn't want to ask her why she would let me do that, as I didn't want to spoil the mood. But you can guess why I, who went to Catholic school, would have a problem shooting my load with that hanging there.
So what is up with this? Anyone else have this Christian provider experience? Is it for real, or a dodge in case LEO walks in?
Member #5121
11-10-15, 01:32
So what is up with this? Anyone else have this Christian provider experience? Is it for real, or a dodge in case LEO walks in?I had a favorite masseuse in Wisconsin who I saw on-and-off for years. She was apparently homeschooled as a child by her strict and devout Baptist family. She was sweet and had a kindly demeanor, almost like a Sunday school teacher. Behind closed doors however, she would let you absolutely devour her.
I think many of these girls use sex as a way to rebel and reclaim their bodies from a punitive religious background. At the same time, many still hold on to their beliefs dearly, because it's all they truly know.
DMichaels69
11-10-15, 13:08
One can only hope. LOL.
Wouldn't the Christian music and other items make it more conducive to doing Missionary work?
Head First
11-10-15, 15:32
Funny story!
There's an AMP in Schaumburg. I'm not sure what its called now, but I think its on Roselle road. The MP had christian music on as well. And extras were offered. Very "different" experience.Yep. Was it on the west side Roselle Rd just north of Golf? I'm thinking at least 7-8 yrs ago I used to go there. There was a stand up shower in the same room as the washer and dryer. And a couple rooms on the right and one or two on the left. Big rooms with big tables. A cute girl was working at the time. Early to mid 30's, good looking, nice firm body. And the same thing. She'd put me in the room and turn on the radio. It was ALWAYS tuned to the Christian station. At first I thought it was a mistake but after 10 or more visits I figured it out that it was part of the plan. Weird but it didn't bother me. And she was as naughty as they come.
I stopped in a couple yrs ago just to check out the talent. A very attractive lady greeted me and took my $80, then walked me into a room. 5 minutes later a different woman came in to give the massage. No hints of any fun so I never went back.
DMichaels69
11-11-15, 08:33
Stand up shower with washer / dryer in there. Sounds like Healing power studio. 80 door fee and fun to be had. 2 of the 3 ladies last time I was there 4 out of 10 in looks. One is a 7 in looks. All older.
Yep. Was it on the west side Roselle Rd just north of Golf? I'm thinking at least 7-8 yrs ago I used to go there. There was a stand up shower in the same room as the washer and dryer. And a couple rooms on the right and one or two on the left. Big rooms with big tables. A cute girl was working at the time. Early to mid 30's, good looking, nice firm body. And the same thing. She'd put me in the room and turn on the radio. It was ALWAYS tuned to the Christian station. At first I thought it was a mistake but after 10 or more visits I figured it out that it was part of the plan. Weird but it didn't bother me. And she was as naughty as they come.
I stopped in a couple yrs ago just to check out the talent. A very attractive lady greeted me and took my $80, then walked me into a room. 5 minutes later a different woman came in to give the massage. No hints of any fun so I never went back.
That's the place!
I remember the cute one, but I always got the one with fake cans (for the life of me I can't remember her name). I haven't been there in at least 5+ years now and was wondering what the talent was like there.
Yep. Was it on the west side Roselle Rd just north of Golf? I'm thinking at least 7-8 yrs ago I used to go there. There was a stand up shower in the same room as the washer and dryer. And a couple rooms on the right and one or two on the left. Big rooms with big tables. A cute girl was working at the time. Early to mid 30's, good looking, nice firm body. And the same thing. She'd put me in the room and turn on the radio. It was ALWAYS tuned to the Christian station. At first I thought it was a mistake but after 10 or more visits I figured it out that it was part of the plan. Weird but it didn't bother me. And she was as naughty as they come.
I stopped in a couple yrs ago just to check out the talent. A very attractive lady greeted me and took my $80, then walked me into a room. 5 minutes later a different woman came in to give the massage. No hints of any fun so I never went back.
Member #1232
11-11-15, 13:46
That's the place!
I remember the cute one, but I always got the one with fake cans (for the life of me I can't remember her name). I haven't been there in at least 5+ years now and was wondering what the talent was like there.If it was the really short (way under 5') older woman I think her name was Susan. She had excellent MT skills and post-session would chat and recommend therapy / exercises for my shoulder and back issues. Also gave me a few more extras than others may have received. I don't recall the Christian music but the rest of the girls gave inconsistent service so I stopped going there. I did have an odd religious / spa experience in Rockford (fuji? Girl kept asking about my religious beliefs and as we're in mish she's lecturing me non-stop that I need to go to church.
If it was the really short (way under 5') older woman I think her name was Susan. She had excellent MT skills and post-session would chat and recommend therapy / exercises for my shoulder and back issues. Also gave me a few more extras than others may have received. I don't recall the Christian music but the rest of the girls gave inconsistent service so I stopped going there. I did have an odd religious / spa experience in Rockford (fuji? Girl kept asking about my religious beliefs and as we're in mish she's lecturing me non-stop that I need to go to church.Perhaps that's because she was moaning "Oh God- don't stop" haha!
That sounds right. Great MT skills and very particular about how you positioned yourself on the massage table. I don't recall if she was very short, but she would always say to ask for her when I returned. She'd give me the extra attention too. She was the only one I ever got a massage from at that place, but the other woman was pretty good looking.
If it was the really short (way under 5') older woman I think her name was Susan. She had excellent MT skills and post-session would chat and recommend therapy / exercises for my shoulder and back issues. Also gave me a few more extras than others may have received. I don't recall the Christian music but the rest of the girls gave inconsistent service so I stopped going there. I did have an odd religious / spa experience in Rockford (fuji? Girl kept asking about my religious beliefs and as we're in mish she's lecturing me non-stop that I need to go to church.
DMichaels69
11-22-15, 23:19
I've had a couple very young looking ladies add me as a friend only to tell me they are escorts. Has anyone experienced this and met them. I am hesitant about it and have not partaken.
I got a PM from a member today asking the same exact question. He said they offered 2-3 hours msog. Any activity. $200-$300. I have not gotten that invitation yet, so I have no idea. Must be a new business model. It sort of makes sense. Without reviews, though, its hard to know what might happen. Good or bad. Bob.
I've had a couple very young looking ladies add me as a friend only to tell me they are escorts. Has anyone experienced this and met them. I am hesitant about it and have not partaken.
I got a PM from a member today asking the same exact question. He said they offered 2-3 hours msog. Any activity. $200-$300. I have not gotten that invitation yet, so I have no idea. Must be a new business model. It sort of makes sense. Without reviews, though, its hard to know what might happen. Good or bad. Bob.Where was your or the girl's general location?
DMichaels69
11-23-15, 08:45
I asked one for a current picture and she sent me 2 more like the one she has on her profile. I am skeptical she is as young as her pictures or they are fake pictures.
I got a PM from a member today asking the same exact question. He said they offered 2-3 hours msog. Any activity. $200-$300. I have not gotten that invitation yet, so I have no idea. Must be a new business model. It sort of makes sense. Without reviews, though, its hard to know what might happen. Good or bad. Bob.
DMichaels69
11-23-15, 08:46
West Suburbs.
Where was your or the girl's general location?
One day last week I was in Naperville and was early to see a client so I decided to stop at H-Mart for lunch. As I walked in I saw that they now have added a hair salon and Asian girls do men's haircuts. They start at $20 and the 2 girls I saw were both young and beautiful.
Great place. Great area.
I'm moving to Holland and starting a new career. Happy Holidays everyone.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/21/europe/driving-lessons-sex-netherlands/?iid=ob_article_footer_expansion&iref=obinsite
-w.
I'm moving to Holland and starting a new career. Happy Holidays everyone.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/21/europe/driving-lessons-sex-netherlands/?iid=ob_article_footer_expansion&iref=obinsite
-w.Two things come to mind. First, how do you tax this? Second, I don't want the instructor or the student thinking about sex when they are learning to drive. Keep your eyes on the road and your fly zipped.
Head First
12-24-15, 20:05
One day last week I was in Naperville and was early to see a client so I decided to stop at H-Mart for lunch. As I walked in I saw that they now have added a hair salon and Asian girls do men's haircuts. They start at $20 and the 2 girls I saw were both young and beautiful.
Great place. Great area.13-14 years ago when I was getting divorced is when I got my first massage. It soon turned into a regular thing and I was hooked. It didn't take long and I was having my first AMP experience. It was in Chinatown at a place called Silk. Found an ad in the Sun Times. One day I walked in to find a new cutie cutting hair. Next visit I asked if she does massage but was told no. A couple visits later it was slow and she was just sitting around flipping through a magazine so again I asked if she was an option. Yep. Into the room where I got ready. She was new but somehow knew what to do. Things moved slow but after a few visits we were having fun on the flip. She was my version of the perfect Asian hottie. Petite, young, perky, spinner that barely could speak English. Eventually f / s was an option but not every time. I saw her many times over the years and since then Silk has closed. She worked at many places including some on Archer. Last time I saw her was at Alices. That closed but I still call her every once in a while. I'm sure she'll show up again somewhere.
Point is. These girls are hungry for money and companionship. For what it takes them all day to make cutting hair they can make in one hour giving massages. I would make an appt for a haircut and just start chatting them up. Somehow work other ways of making money by doing a body rub or massage into the convo. Tip well for the haircut and see what happens. You never know.
I got a PM from a member today asking the same exact question. He said they offered 2-3 hours msog. Any activity. $200-$300. I have not gotten that invitation yet, so I have no idea. Must be a new business model. It sort of makes sense. Without reviews, though, its hard to know what might happen. Good or bad. Bob.I'm down here in the Joliet area and started getting proposed on Wechat when the Asian ads on backpage ramped up. Here are the pics they show as the talent.
JolieThornDog
12-26-15, 00:33
I'm down here in the Joliet area and started getting proposed on Wechat when the Asian ads on backpage ramped up. Here are the pics they show as the talent.The pics are pretty good. Now real or not, another story.
WhiteRookDown
12-26-15, 10:06
Those pics are stock photos of some Japanese chick, and her pics show up in about 75 percent of massage parlor ads. They aren't any indication of anybody's talent pool. Nothing but a marketing tool.
I'm down here in the Joliet area and started getting proposed on Wechat when the Asian ads on backpage ramped up. Here are the pics they show as the talent.
Blambo McGee
12-28-15, 16:56
I'm down here in the Joliet area and started getting proposed on Wechat when the Asian ads on backpage ramped up. Here are the pics they show as the talent.Gents,
The WeChat solicitations are more dangerous than the ones on BackPages.
With few exceptions, the WeChat ladies are not even ladies at all, but men who have a nice collection of photos. They will schedule an appointment with you, tell you via WeChat to meet them at a pharmacy or another location where stored value cards (Amazon, etc.) are sold. They will tell you to buy $200 in cards, but then add more -- $200 more- as a tip for the girl. Then they'll tell you to scratch off the PIN number on the card, and send them photos of each via WeChat. That's all they need to use the cards. Meanwhile, either the 'girl' will disappear from WeChat or block you as a contact. Or in some cases, an Asian guy will call you and demand that you buy more cards; if you refuse, he will threaten to turn you in for soliciting a minor. Scenario #2: You meet the girl and she says, follow me to my house. She goes in first. You wait 5 minutes as she's told you to do, you ring a bell for an apartment and lo and behold she is gone. Or the man shows up and demands money.
Anyway, this is scam is well known overseas and perhaps less so here. Those ladies are cute, though and once again it is hard to override the little brain.
Here in the Boston area the usual offer is presented as "2 hours, 200 Full Service." or "2 hours 200 sex blow job afterwards."
Best,
Blambo.
Gents,
With few exceptions, the WeChat ladies are not even ladies at all, but men who have a nice collection of photos. They will schedule an appointment with you, tell you via WeChat to meet them at a pharmacy or another location where stored value cards (Amazon, etc.) are sold. They will tell you to buy $200 in cards, but then add more -- $200 more- as a tip for the girl. Then they'll tell you to scratch off the PIN number on the card, and send them photos of each via WeChat. That's all they need to use the cards. Meanwhile, either the 'girl' will disappear from WeChat or block you as a contact. Or in some cases, an Asian guy will call you and demand that you buy more cards; if you refuse, he will threaten to turn you in for soliciting a minor. Scenario #2: You meet the girl and she says, follow me to my house. She goes in first. You wait 5 minutes as she's told you to do, you ring a bell for an apartment and lo and behold she is gone. Or the man shows up and demands money.
Anyway, this is scam is well known overseas and perhaps less so here. Those ladies are cute, though and once again it is hard to override the little brain.
Here in the Boston area the usual offer is presented as "2 hours, 200 Full Service." or "2 hours 200 sex blow job afterwards."
Best,
Blambo.Sounds like the story I got. So never responded after the offers. But still talking to some massage gals in the area that are on it.
Rudykzooti
12-29-15, 16:01
As always if the photo is TGTBT it is a scammer. I have been seeing this for about a year now here in the city. They ask you to get the gift card at $200, you can get them down to $100, and waste their time. At least that way they are not scamming someone for real. Kind of like it was back in the day baiting the scammers from Nigeria, driving them crazy.
Sounds like the story I got. So never responded after the offers. But still talking to some massage gals in the area that are on it.
Recently I got a PM from a senior who asked why I keep going to AMPs if I keep on reporting these negative experiences. I have to admit I was a little taken aback, but on Further Review, I admit it's true. I do report my negative experiences more than my positive. And I'll tell you why.
In my experience around Chicago and Indiana, from my first experience in 1992, I have far more positive AMP experiences than negative. And I've come to realize that if you look for the signs and give the signs, you are sure to leave happy from 80 or 90 percent of them. Of course "leaving happy" is a pretty low standard for an AMP. I've had experiences that range from "Oh my God, I need to rob banks so I can visit again!" to just plain "That *****!
So I think I do a bigger service by reporting to you guys the AMPs to stay away from, rather than the ones that provide average to good service. But, I'll put it out there for feedback. What do you guys want? Do you prefer reports on the good AMPs or reports on the bad, ripoff AMPs?
Head First
01-07-16, 23:43
So I think I do a bigger service by reporting to you guys the AMPs to stay away from, rather than the ones that provide average to good service. But, I'll put it out there for feedback. What do you guys want? Do you prefer reports on the good AMPs or reports on the bad, ripoff AMPs?Couldn't agree more. It's obvious you've been around the block more than a few X. Especially 5,6,7 yrs ago. When it seemed like anytime one of us would post about a good find 2 things would happen.
1) The place would get swamped with business. Thats good.
2) The place would get shut down. Thats bad.
We have to be pretty naive to think that LE doesn't also read our posts. That's why we need to be careful. And most of us are.
When I find a good place now I usually keep it to myself. Ride it out, then when its mostly used up, find something to complain about and post cause I don't give a shit anymore if they get closed down. Plus it helps others save their hard earned! Selfish? Sure. But I've been around too and have taken many, many, many, ftt.
I'm in your camp and fully understand. I think many members feel the same way and also don't post about their good experiences / locations about 90% of the time but have no problem posting about the bad ones.
The senior that wrote to you, he'll come around. If not that's fine too.
I agree with you. Not a big need to talk a lot about places most of us know. Don't shine too big a light on places or people we like. If a new shop opens, that's probably the time to post a review. But otherwise, I think mostly, the bad need to be mentioned to avoid. Bob.
Recently I got a PM from a senior who asked why I keep going to AMPs if I keep on reporting these negative experiences. I have to admit I was a little taken aback, but on Further Review, I admit it's true. I do report my negative experiences more than my positive. And I'll tell you why.
In my experience around Chicago and Indiana, from my first experience in 1992, I have far more positive AMP experiences than negative. And I've come to realize that if you look for the signs and give the signs, you are sure to leave happy from 80 or 90 percent of them. Of course "leaving happy" is a pretty low standard for an AMP. I've had experiences that range from "Oh my God, I need to rob banks so I can visit again!" to just plain "That *****!
So I think I do a bigger service by reporting to you guys the AMPs to stay away from, rather than the ones that provide average to good service. But, I'll put it out there for feedback. What do you guys want? Do you prefer reports on the good AMPs or reports on the bad, ripoff AMPs?
I agree with you. Not a big need to talk a lot about places most of us know. Don't shine too big a light on places or people we like. If a new shop opens, that's probably the time to post a review. But otherwise, I think mostly, the bad need to be mentioned to avoid. Bob.I respectfully disagree even though sometimes I keep ones to myself as well- so I understand the thinking. The point of the board is to share information. The whole reason I started going to places in the post internet era was from the info I got on the board. That's how I met Eva and Veronica from 7th Heaven- two of my all time favorites who unfortunately are no longer in the business. If no one had ever spoke of the place I would not have known about it- nor the high quality massages they provided. I know it's an EMP but I'm just illustrating a point. I just don't have the money (or time) to try every place that advertises and which gals not to see, what they look like, etc. I depend on good reviews and descriptions of the gals, prices, where they're at, etc. to help narrow my choices. Some guys like junk in the trunk- I like them petite, thin and fit. Some guys like full service- I like a standard ending and a more therapeutic massage.
I also found a great AMP in Rockford a long time ago called Rainbow Spa from this board. I needed a mongers help to find the damn place- it was difficult to see from the road. I got that from this board. Man I miss that place. Great massages, beautiful women, and they treated you like a king- ( for ex. Putting my shoes on for me.) I was so relaxed after those massages.
What I usually do is hold back if it's a place or gal I really like until someone else mentions it- otherwise I will share it. Then I figure the horse has left the barn and I might comment on it or trade info with another member unless the gal specifically asks me not to mention her in reviews. Then I respect her wishes.
So I guess my preference is for others to mention both the good and bad ones. This board would suck if all we read were jack shacks and ugly chicks giving lousy massages. Uncle LEO knows about massage parlors- I mean they see them in the strip mall, their ads on the internet, etc. If the powers that be want to shut them down- I'm sure they will regardless of what is written here. Anyway that's my opinion.
I'm torn. Everything you say is true and I've "discovered" places thanks to the board. I suppose "PM" is a tool to bridge the gap. Also, anybody who advertises, clearly wants to be found, so I have no problem talking about them and passing along the links. Also, because some places offer extras, including FS, at the discretion of the woman, it's hard to promise that everybody will get the same. Also, I sometimes get extras at legit places, when I know the woman. I can't talk about those cases without the permission of the woman, and even then, only in PMs. I just don't want to hurt anybody. Bob.
I respectfully disagree even though sometimes I keep ones to myself as well- so I understand the thinking. The point of the board is to share information. The whole reason I started going to places in the post internet era was from the info I got on the board. That's how I met Eva and Veronica from 7th Heaven- two of my all time favorites who unfortunately are no longer in the business. If no one had ever spoke of the place I would not have known about it- nor the high quality massages they provided. I know it's an EMP but I'm just illustrating a point. I just don't have the money (or time) to try every place that advertises and which gals not to see, what they look like, etc. I depend on good reviews and descriptions of the gals, prices, where they're at, etc. to help narrow my choices. Some guys like junk in the trunk- I like them petite, thin and fit. Some guys like full service- I like a standard ending and a more therapeutic massage.
I also found a great AMP in Rockford a long time ago called Rainbow Spa from this board. I needed a mongers help to find the damn place- it was difficult to see from the road. I got that from this board. Man I miss that place. Great massages, beautiful women, and they treated you like a king- ( for ex. Putting my shoes on for me.) I was so relaxed after those massages.
What I usually do is hold back if it's a place or gal I really like until someone else mentions it- otherwise I will share it. Then I figure the horse has left the barn and I might comment on it or trade info with another member unless the gal specifically asks me not to mention her in reviews. Then I respect her wishes.
So I guess my preference is for others to mention both the good and bad ones. This board would suck if all we read were jack shacks and ugly chicks giving lousy massages. Uncle LEO knows about massage parlors- I mean they see them in the strip mall, their ads on the internet, etc. If the powers that be want to shut them down- I'm sure they will regardless of what is written here. Anyway that's my opinion.
SaintChuck
01-08-16, 12:32
It is kind of a tricky situation trying to figure out what you should put in a review, or if you should even put up a review. Sometimes when I write a negative review, I don't want people to think that I am being a negative Nancy or a crabby old man. I just feel that it is my obligation to tell other Monger's about bad experiences so that they don't make the same mistakes I have made. I am not a rich guy, so for me to go out on a Saturday afternoon and drop a see-note at an AMP is a big deal sometimes. If I have a bad experience I will report about it, so that other's won't have to make the same mistake I did. Here is where the double edged sword comes into play. If you put up too glowing of a review on a place, this can upset people and then you start getting the angry PM's. I 100% agree with Bob521, if a place advertises all over the internet, then any review written is fair game. I have seen a lot of negative review's on here, but I don't think any of them had malicious intent. They were only meant to help out fellow Monger's make an informed decision. SaintChuck.
I'm torn. Everything you say is true and I've "discovered" places thanks to the board. I suppose "PM" is a tool to bridge the gap. Also, anybody who advertises, clearly wants to be found, so I have no problem talking about them and passing along the links. Also, because some places offer extras, including FS, at the discretion of the woman, it's hard to promise that everybody will get the same. I just don't want to hurt anybody. Bob.You took the words right out of my mouth.
I've been at this almost 20 years and I've watched this scene not only in Chicago but in other cities in the US. Yes the purpose of a board is to share but that is no excuse to be ignorant to the fact that too much exposure closes down an AMP. And while there are plenty of women out there I do enjoy having some long term fun with someone I'm comfortable with and who is comfortable with me.
When I first started the first best info I needed was where not to go. How not to get ripped off. But yes little' rub wants to know where there is a girl who does what I want done with the type of body I like. Mongers are so stupid that they will walk into an AMP with the cops standing right there! I know we want everything, share everything, LE sees it anyway so who care. But that is not smart thinking. No offense.
What we really need is for this to be legalized. It used to be illegal to be a homosexual but now it's ok. Sodomy was illegal it now it's ok. Sex workers or getting an erotic massage needs to be legalized. Period. Then we wouldn't have to think with are big heads and could tell all. LOL
Til then my thought is to be wise about sharing. If you're a noob I'll share where not to go. I'll tell the whole forum of a rip off. If your a vet I'll share some detail. Most vets don't want much anyway. Some want a preggo and some want DFK and some want big nips. Most vets know how things work and want to know where to find a girl open to having a good time. They do the rest themselves.
My favorite places have been there forever. Chatter is low and it works. Blow up a place with posts everyday just puts a target on their back so the LE can say what a great job they've done. So will you blow it up and then cry about the good old days?
So that just me. If anyone has a better idea please let me know. But I'm not going to be ignorant to the facts as they are today.
DMichaels69
01-08-16, 12:42
What places have been closed down because of this board?
You took the words right out of my mouth.
I've been at this almost 20 years and I've watched this scene not only in Chicago but in other cities in the US. Yes the purpose of a board is to share but that is no excuse to be ignorant to the fact that too much exposure closes down an AMP. And while there are plenty of women out there I do enjoy having some long term fun with someone I'm comfortable with and who is comfortable with me.
When I first started the first best info I needed was where not to go. How not to get ripped off. But yes little' rub wants to know where there is a girl who does what I want done with the type of body I like. Mongers are so stupid that they will walk into an AMP with the cops standing right there! I know we want everything, share everything, LE sees it anyway so who care. But that is not smart thinking. No offense.
What we really need is for this to be legalized. It used to be illegal to be a homosexual but now it's ok. Sodomy was illegal it now it's ok. Sex workers or getting an erotic massage needs to be legalized. Period. Then we wouldn't have to think with are big heads and could tell all. LOL
Til then my thought is to be wise about sharing. If you're a noob I'll share where not to go. I'll tell the whole forum of a rip off. If your a vet I'll share some detail. Most vets don't want much anyway. Some want a preggo and some want DFK and some want big nips. Most vets know how things work and want to know where to find a girl open to having a good time. They do the rest themselves.
My favorite places have been there forever. Chatter is low and it works. Blow up a place with posts everyday just puts a target on their back so the LE can say what a great job they've done. So will you blow it up and then cry about the good old days?
So that just me. If anyone has a better idea please let me know. But I'm not going to be ignorant to the facts as they are today.
As a point of reference check out the Indianapolis board.
A year ago places are shut down so quickly that posts are are ultra coded! It's that bad there. I alway RTFF. But this was a hard nut to crack. I was able to figure it out. I met a great girl and had a great session. My review was that I left relaxed. What else needs to be known?
What places have been closed down because of this board?I would not blame this board 100%. But I have noticed the trend for over 20 years that increased chatter is generally followed by a shut down.
For Chicago / NWI, Senina, Nabi, Pea King Spa to name few.
Ask the guys in LA what they lost. They had 2 pick your own Asian or Latina places in Inglewood. Gone. And multiple shut downs afterward.
Ask the guys in San Francisco what they lost. Pick from 6-12 Asian women. Gone. Multiple shut downs force the scene to almost go deeper underground.
Ask the guys in Indianapolis. Shut downs monthly. Board is so coded it's unbelievable.
I'm sorry your only seeing one side of this. I could name decade long places with little to no chatter and you'd say no one talks about those places or that people say very little. That's the key! So just call me crazy I'm ok with that. I know those who hate hearing those words but I think a few get it.
DMichaels69
01-08-16, 13:46
When there are talks about boards getting places closed it may discourage others from posting.
I don't get attached to places or workers at those places so if one closes I can go somewhere else.
I would not blame this board 100%. But I have noticed the trend for over 20 years that increased chatter is generally followed by a shut down.
For Chicago / NWI, Senina, Nabi, Pea King Spa to name few.
Ask the guys in LA what they lost. They had 2 pick your own Asian or Latina places in Inglewood. Gone. And multiple shut downs afterward.
Ask the guys in San Francisco what they lost. Pick from 6-12 Asian women. Gone. Multiple shut downs force the scene to almost go deeper underground.
Ask the guys in Indianapolis. Shut downs monthly. Board is so coded it's unbelievable.
I'm sorry your only seeing one side of this. I could name decade long places with little to no chatter and you'd say no one talks about those places or that people say very little. That's the key! So just call me crazy I'm ok with that. I know those who hate hearing those words but I think a few get it.
When there are talks about boards getting places closed it may discourage others from posting.
I don't get attached to places or workers at those places so if one closes I can go somewhere else.I see both sides of this argument. With my absolute favorites I am reluctant to post so I understand- but everyone else yeah I think it's a good thing to post both good and bad experiences. You don't have to give a play by play- but saying you had a good time and a description of the gal looked like, how much it cost, etc is a good thing. My point is when I first started out in the pre-internet era of the 90's- it was from trial and error. I'd see an ad in the sports section of the newspaper and check it out. Guess what- back then some of the places still got shut down without any chatter / posts / etc. The thinking that suddenly posting about a place will be the sole cause of it getting shut down is misguided and wrong. It reduces the point of this forum. If it does get shutdown the board has been helpful in relocating where some of the gals have resurfaced. Heck sometimes they just quit the business or move without it closing.
I see both sides of this argument. With my absolute favorites I am reluctant to post so I understand- but everyone else yeah I think it's a good thing to post both good and bad experiences. You don't have to give a play by play- but saying you had a good time and a description of the gal looked like, how much it cost, etc is a good thing. My point is when I first started out in the pre-internet era of the 90's- it was from trial and error. I'd see an ad in the sports section of the newspaper and check it out. Guess what- back then some of the places still got shut down without any chatter / posts / etc. The thinking that suddenly posting about a place will be the sole cause of it getting shut down is misguided and wrong. It reduces the point of this forum. If it does get shutdown the board has been helpful in relocating where some of the gals have resurfaced. Heck sometimes they just quit the business or move without it closing.THis thread here had me questioning what do I actually post on here so I went back in my posts a couple of years and found the following. About.
20% questions to others about AMPs, BP ads, etc.
20% answers to other members questions.
20% what I would say are Public Service Announcements.
20% Comments about money, keeping prices down, others over paying, etc.
19% actual reports on AMPs, BP or streets.
And one report that "Bob you're a Stud!
I guess I spread my reports fairly evenly across the boards.
My two cents is that if the experience is terrible I'm willing to let guys know. If the experience is positive but average, then I'm willing to let guys know because frankly those experiences are a dime a dozen and if that place gets shut down then I just move on to the next place. Now if the experience is as I read earlier as "I need to rob a bank to keep coming here" , then I'm going to be more hesitant to share because those experiences are harder to replace.
Be safe guys and keep having fun!
Joe.
I see both sides of this argument. With my absolute favorites I am reluctant to post so I understand- but everyone else yeah I think it's a good thing to post both good and bad experiences. You don't have to give a play by play- but saying you had a good time and a description of the gal looked like, how much it cost, etc is a good thing. My point is when I first started out in the pre-internet era of the 90's- it was from trial and error. I'd see an ad in the sports section of the newspaper and check it out. Guess what- back then some of the places still got shut down without any chatter / posts / etc. The thinking that suddenly posting about a place will be the sole cause of it getting shut down is misguided and wrong. It reduces the point of this forum. If it does get shutdown the board has been helpful in relocating where some of the gals have resurfaced. Heck sometimes they just quit the business or move without it closing.I make a point of connecting with the woman. That way if, inevitably, the place gets closed, I can follow her to the new place. Plus, when she gets to the new place, we are already at an advance level of connection. So, for me, I am loyal to the woman, not the store. Bob.
I make a point of connecting with the woman. That way if, inevitably, the place gets closed, I can follow her to the new place. Plus, when she gets to the new place, we are already at an advance level of connection. So, for me, I am loyal to the woman, not the store. Bob.My guess is that we all are a product of our own personalities, experiences and environment.
When I first started some places would not deliver a completion if they did not know you. I've always known you can get more flies with honey than with vinegar and it's who I am anyway so I made nice with the mamasan. Now every visit was great. She made sure every girl delivered the goods to keep me as a good customer. If the girl was not good I could take it straight to the top and she wouldn't be there long. It helped me get more time too as the mms was more relaxed.
I couldn't help but to meet and get close to some girls. Some gave me their numbers and I would set up appointments directly with them no matter where they worked. A few came to my hotel and we'd spend half the day having a good time. One was friends with the local LE and could tell me when busts were going down. Funny thing is that I was getting connections but never looked for deeper connections. I thank Bob for raising my awareness to the next level.
So with a collection of places that knew me I as all set. Sure I'd try a new place sometimes but I had more sure things than I could handle. Two were amazing and I joined in some of the dicussion. And then they were gone. Owners, girls and Mongers all said the same thing. Too much talk. Is this true? You decide.
Like many here I like having my "go-to place" my "stand by" my "I need to rob a bank" place. I had these all over the country. One area dried up. You couldn't see more than 4 posts and it was shut down. Then another area had the same thing start. A monger pulled me aside and let me in on a few things. If I understood the cause and relationships he would tell me about UTR places. I would need to rechannel the need to tell of every conquest.
So that's where I come from. Right or wrong I really don't care as I know what works for me. I respect the game and it pays back. As always using the big head is better for the little head. I'll share what I can of good places. Tell all the bad. Keep close what others have asked that I keep to myself. It's much better than when I started. New Mongers have way more info. More than enough.
I make a point of connecting with the woman. That way if, inevitably, the place gets closed, I can follow her to the new place. Plus, when she gets to the new place, we are already at an advance level of connection. So, for me, I am loyal to the woman, not the store. Bob.That's good advice. I probably should do that more often. I agree I'm a fan of the gals not necessarily the place because quality and talent can differ greatly depending on which gal you see. Just to illustrate my point further that the powers that be ultimately decide if a place is shutdown and not the posts on the board. Go to the Belvidere forum- there's plenty written there. The two mainstays there, ERS and CLV, according to their websites- have been in business since 1976 and 1984 respectively. That's a long time man. It's a small town that is near the highway and those places are located right in the heart of the town. The town obviously wants the revenue to help it pay for roads, schools, etc. They have limitations- don't go expecting FS but a relaxing massage and a typical finish are tolerated for the benefits of added revenue for the town. It's a win-win-win situation for the town, the gals, and the customers.
THis thread here had me questioning what do I actually post on here so I went back in my posts a couple of years and found the following. About.
20% questions to others about AMPs, BP ads, etc.
20% answers to other members questions.
20% what I would say are Public Service Announcements.
20% Comments about money, keeping prices down, others over paying, etc.
19% actual reports on AMPs, BP or streets.
And one report that "Bob you're a Stud!
I guess I spread my reports fairly evenly across the boards.
My two cents is that if the experience is terrible I'm willing to let guys know. If the experience is positive but average, then I'm willing to let guys know because frankly those experiences are a dime a dozen and if that place gets shut down then I just move on to the next place. Now if the experience is as I read earlier as "I need to rob a bank to keep coming here" , then I'm going to be more hesitant to share because those experiences are harder to replace.
Be safe guys and keep having fun!
Joe.Yeah that sounds about right. I'm the same way- reluctant to post my all time favorites. Instead I might trade info via pm. But there are plenty of good experiences that we can post about. Maybe they're decent looking but the quality isn't the best, or maybe the massage is good quality but expensive, etc. Those places are a dime a dozen and yet still contribute greatly to the board by helping members know what the gals look like, how the massages are, the prices, etc. And helps us decide ultimately whether we want to spend our money there or to cross them off the list and go elsewhere. For example- I thought of trying Blackjacks strip club in Elgin after reading a good report. Once I learned about the prices for lap dances I crossed it off the list- way too expensive for me. For others where money isn't an issue- it might be great- - it just depends.
DMichaels69
01-09-16, 16:31
Well put. Funny how the towns can look the other way for that reason.
That's good advice. I probably should do that more often. I agree I'm a fan of the gals not necessarily the place because quality and talent can differ greatly depending on which gal you see. Just to illustrate my point further that the powers that be ultimately decide if a place is shutdown and not the posts on the board. Go to the Belvidere forum- there's plenty written there. The two mainstays there, ERS and CLV, according to their websites- have been in business since 1976 and 1984 respectively. That's a long time man. It's a small town that is near the highway and those places are located right in the heart of the town. The town obviously wants the revenue to help it pay for roads, schools, etc. They have limitations- don't go expecting FS but a relaxing massage and a typical finish are tolerated for the benefits of added revenue for the town. It's a win-win-win situation for the town, the gals, and the customers.
We all fish with our own bait and tackle. Some guys use a harpoon. But at my age and limitations, I'm more of a fly fisherman, with a very flexible rod (sadly) and the patience to drop my fly into the water until I get a bite. I think we all enjoy the community of the board. Useful intel and advice, and some pretty good stories along the way. If it were a different setting we'd probably all be drinking buddies. Actually a few of us already are. Bob.
My guess is that we all are a product of our own personalities, experiences and environment.
When I first started some places would not deliver a completion if they did not know you. I've always known you can get more flies with honey than with vinegar and it's who I am anyway so I made nice with the mamasan. Now every visit was great. She made sure every girl delivered the goods to keep me as a good customer. If the girl was not good I could take it straight to the top and she wouldn't be there long. It helped me get more time too as the mms was more relaxed.
I couldn't help but to meet and get close to some girls. Some gave me their numbers and I would set up appointments directly with them no matter where they worked. A few came to my hotel and we'd spend half the day having a good time. One was friends with the local LE and could tell me when busts were going down. Funny thing is that I was getting connections but never looked for deeper connections. I thank Bob for raising my awareness to the next level.
So with a collection of places that knew me I as all set. Sure I'd try a new place sometimes but I had more sure things than I could handle. Two were amazing and I joined in some of the dicussion. And then they were gone. Owners, girls and Mongers all said the same thing. Too much talk. Is this true? You decide.
Like many here I like having my "go-to place" my "stand by" my "I need to rob a bank" place. I had these all over the country. One area dried up. You couldn't see more than 4 posts and it was shut down. Then another area had the same thing start. A monger pulled me aside and let me in on a few things. If I understood the cause and relationships he would tell me about UTR places. I would need to rechannel the need to tell of every conquest.
So that's where I come from. Right or wrong I really don't care as I know what works for me. I respect the game and it pays back. As always using the big head is better for the little head. I'll share what I can of good places. Tell all the bad. Keep close what others have asked that I keep to myself. It's much better than when I started. New Mongers have way more info. More than enough.
WhiteRookDown
01-10-16, 02:13
I post what I want to say about a place, when I want to say it, and how I want to say it. This site exists for many reasons, and its domain name pulls no punches as to what it exists for. Whether a place stays open or closes or gets busted is no concern of mine, and neither are the women who work there. They, both the parlor and the individual women who work there, make the decision on how they are going to conduct their business and themselves. They can be legit, and accept the $10 and $20 tips, or they can work cocks, and make a lot more. If they choose the latter, we, and they, know what they are. They get to live with that decision, just as any of us get to live with the decisions we make in our lives. I'm not going to pretend to be some knight on a white horse any more than I'll pretend that a masseuse is some vestal virgin whose honor it is my job to defend. If we're not going to share information openly, then this site has no reason to exist, and may well cease to exist. Not that I am going to give a detailed move by move, Penthouse Forum-worthy play by play of what goes on in a massage session. But I'll be damned if I'm going to act under the delusional premise that I'm protecting a business or the women in there. As a wise poster once said, "if they're doing it with you, they're doing it with someone else". You aren't special, and neither are they.
George W. Bush
01-10-16, 13:07
Agree with the sentiments about some places clearly wanting to be found. If a place is UTR, I keep my mouth shut. For places that do advertise, the only ones I post about generally are the ones that fail to deliver the expected results. If a place doesn't have many or any reviews I'll report on it as being bad only to save the rest of the members hard earned cash. I get kind of PO'd when I waste money on someone that doesn't deliver, so why not help out fellow mongers? If I go to a location that already has a lot of reviews, it sounds like I'm bragging if I just say I went there and got what everyone else did.
Some things are better off kept low key via PM. The unfortunate aspect of this site is anyone can read it without registering, so that means Fucktard Tom Dart and his incompetent employees can go after low level, low risk things like Asian girls giving handies, instead of doing something that actually involves physical exertion like busting a crack house. No wonder they are all fat pigs, pun intended.
Head First
04-03-16, 14:09
A couple weeks ago I was having a session with one of my regulars. We were having a very good time when all of a sudden the door opens. Standing there is a middle age guy with some gray and a towel wrapped around himself. He looks like he just saw something he shouldn't have and closes the door but not before he got an eyeful of everything, and it couldn't have happened at a better time, (for him). Well needless to say we were in shock and a bit confused what just happened. She was scared he was going to go say something to the boss lady whom he was having a session with himself. Of course that's a nightmare situation for a girl fearing she would be fired on the spot. I tried to assure her that the guy wouldn't say anything but I had no way of knowing that. She was in tears and soon after our session ended. A week, 2 weeks, 3 weeks go by and nothing has been said so her job seems to be safe. Whew. So "Thank You" if it was someone on here that kept your lips sealed! The Guy Code is definitely alive and well in Chicagoland spas.
OK, I know I'm way off geographically, to be posting this on the Illinois forum. But bear with me. I'm travelling for business in Germany for the last 3 weeks, in a 'burb just north of Frankfurt. Getting ready for this trip, I'm reading up on all the sex clubs in Frankfurt on the International version of this site. Hey, I can't wait.
What do you know, my co-workers and bosses have something from me to do way late every night, and on the weekends my co-workers want to see the sites. No way I can make it to Frankfurt and back in decent time after fun and still show up for work the next morning fresh and smart and business-like.
In frustration I looked at the local massage establishments, all either Thai or Chinese. I pick the Chinese one, figuring my luck would be better and if nothing else I'd get a good massage. So the first indication that this was not going to be good was that the woman who opened the door had a face like a Chinese catchers mitt. Second, she doesn't speak a word of English. But it's only 50 E, and I only have an hour and a half before my co-workers grab me, so I go for it.
The MT they sent me was better looking (had to be), but still a bit of a frumpy middle aged type. The massage for amazing. Wrapped in blankets and massaged, oiled and massaged, stretched and more massage. I was resigned to nothing happening.
On the flip she starts rubbing my stomach and getting closer to the boys. It got a rise, but she moved on to the top of my legs and I figured it was just a fluke. So she's all done, I'm sleepy and dreaming. She shakes me gently and looks at me. With no emotion except what you'd expect from friendly customer service, she asks "You wan hajob?" I smile, nod and say Yes. So she gets the oil, uncovers the package and goes to work for a really good HJ. The funny thing is, it was all so Matter of Fact. I know it's Germany, but still. It was a good neighborhood and a fantastic massage. It was unexpected.
On the way out I tipped her 30 E and she seemed thrilled. I'm betting she was expecting no more that what you would tip for a regular massage in the USA Generous Americans. We ought to wear signs.
In a few days I may try one of the Thai establishments and see if my luck holds.
A couple weeks ago I was having a session with one of my regulars. We were having a very good time when all of a sudden the door opens. Standing there is a middle age guy with some gray and a towel wrapped around himself. He looks like he just saw something he shouldn't have and closes the door but not before he got an eyeful of everything, and it couldn't have happened at a better time, (for him). Well needless to say we were in shock and a bit confused what just happened. She was scared he was going to go say something to the boss lady whom he was having a session with himself. Of course that's a nightmare situation for a girl fearing she would be fired on the spot. I tried to assure her that the guy wouldn't say anything but I had no way of knowing that. She was in tears and soon after our session ended. A week, 2 weeks, 3 weeks go by and nothing has been said so her job seems to be safe. Whew. So "Thank You" if it was someone on here that kept your lips sealed! The Guy Code is definitely alive and well in Chicagoland spas.Here's the story Head First. It was my first time there. I was looking for the bathroom when I mistakenly opened your unlocked door. Indeed I was surprised and agree my timing was rather perfect. Sorry to hear she was in tears. Rest assured, no risk of me saying a word. Anyway, I did have a laugh when I got to the bathroom. My thoughts were, who was a bigger dumbass, you for not locking the door, or me for opening it!. BTW, speaking of gray hair!
Head First
05-21-16, 11:32
Here's the story Head First. It was my first time there. I was looking for the bathroom when I mistakenly opened your unlocked door. Indeed I was surprised and agree my timing was rather perfect. Sorry to hear she was in tears. Rest assured, no risk of me saying a word. Anyway, I did have a laugh when I got to the bathroom. My thoughts were, who was a bigger dumbass, you for not locking the door, or me for opening it!. BTW, speaking of gray hair!Definitely me that should be wearing the dunce cap. You were looking for the bathroom and since this was your first time there, you had no idea the door you were opening was in fact another massage room. It's way in the back away from the others so it was easy to mistake it for the "bathwoom in back."
Point to remember on future visits there. None of the doors have locks on them. We usually pushed the chair over but since you were already in your room I assumed there wouldn't be any roaming in the hall. Lesson learned.
And that's precisely why this forum is so important. So that we can learn and benefit from others, good and bad.
No harm. No foul.
Welcome!!
Definitely me that should be wearing the dunce cap. You were looking for the bathroom and since this was your first time there, you had no idea the door you were opening was in fact another massage room. It's way in the back away from the others so it was easy to mistake it for the "bathwoom in back."
Point to remember on future visits there. None of the doors have locks on them. We usually pushed the chair over but since you were already in your room I assumed there wouldn't be any roaming in the hall. Lesson learned.
And that's precisely why this forum is so important. So that we can learn and benefit from others, good and bad.
No harm. No foul.
Welcome!!Wow that's wild! Not only did that happen, but you guys are both members on here and saw each other's post on the forum haha!
Yesterday I was at a Chinese place, where the nice young lady right off the boat spoke very little English. Did a nice job on the massage. Little bit of teasing, didn't mind my Roman hands.
On the flip, she puts her head on my chest, laughing and touching Mr. Johnson, then gets right to the handy. So after a few minutes I start breathing heavily and complimenting her on the job she's doing.
All of a sudden, she stops, reaches to the table for the towel and starts cleaning me up. I had to explain to her, a few times, that I didn't finish. She looks at me with that confused look on her face, like she's done something wrong but doesn't know what. I have her look at the towel. See? No gooey white stuff.
She apologizes several times, grabs the oil and gets back to work, this time to a satisfactory end.
In the 20+ years I've been going to AMPs, this never happened to me. Sure the lights are dim, but not that dim. As for the other clues that an MP to take that a guy has finished, I'll leave to your imagination.
I don't have lots of time to come on here and post sometimes, but when I come across fake ads, bait and switch, or poor services from Backpage. I try to report them to Backpage to try to get them blocked from posting, but same ads are still up. How can you get them flagged on backpage?
If you've ever been to an AMP or an EMP, you know how annoying it is for the MT to get you all worked up and then stop to ask "How much you give me?" What's worse is if they make you get up to get the the donation out of your pants, count it out, run to another room to put it away and come back 5 minutes later. I much prefer it when the MT simply does the HJ with a smile on her face, lets you roam, and accepts the tip you leave her gracefully as you leave. I also think the later way is safer from LEO, since no exchange is discussed. Sure there's the chance that the girl will get stiffed by the cheap skate, but it is better than getting busted, right?
So over the weekend I visited a new AMP in the northwest burbs that I'd heard some good things about. I go in, and am greeted by a tall, middle aged Korean woman, but with a gut like a beach ball. Going by the said mentioned reports, I decide to stick it out. She tells me to put it back in. No, just kidding. She gives the table shower, but doesn't spend too much time on the butt crack or the junk, so I figure she's not sure about me. I make small talk about the shower and the massage to indicate that I've been to lots of AMPs over the years. Things start to warm up on the massage. She has me turn over and begins a chest and shoulder massage that leaves her boobs right in my face, contact. So, although I am not turned on by her body at all, I figure if I keep my eyes closed it might be OK. I reach up and over and start stroking her legs and butt. She smiles and mumbles a question that is neither English nor Korean. Again, protecting herself by NOT initiating any discussion. Take the next step, I indicate her mouth, my dick. She smiles and leaves the room, I suppose for a cover.
Two minutes later a much nicer looking Korean woman comes in, makes introductions, and just dropping clothes, shoving her tits in my face, reaching down and stroking Big Jim. She gets on the table, puts the cover on with her mouth and gets to work. At this point, no discussion of money, not even a "You tip me good?" Nope, just to work. After five minutes of the covered BJ, I tell her I changed my mind and want it all. Three positions later we're all done. Clean up, more massage. She offers me a second shot. I thought she was joking, but she was serious. Sadly, this old man is spent. She helps me get dressed, gives me water, even lets me suck her tits for another minute. I reach for my wallet and she turns away, not looking. I got the standard donation for FS and try to hand it to her. She asks me to put it on the table, please. So I do so, and she walks me out the door. She says bye, big woman says bye. I say bye, promising to be back (I will). But she still has no clue as to what I left.
My point. While I've gotten plenty of handies from new spas and MTs that didn't know me, without discussing donation, I've never gotten a BJ, or even expect to get FS, without at least agreeing on the price. That seems a long way to go on trust. I pointed out that I made it clear I was an experienced spa goer. But still, FS?
Now there is nothing that happened that could get the girls busted, I think. Money was not discussed at all after I paid the door fee. Am I wrong? Did I miss something? I'm thinking they were willing to go this far for someone who wasn't acting like a dick, initiated action, and had experience all on the expectation that I would pay and they would not be caught asking sex for money.
DMichaels69
06-13-16, 15:54
You mention going to other places and being hassled about getting the donation first. That has happened to me and I say no I always pay after. The last few times they dropped it but I've had some occasions where they have not and ended up tipping for just the massage and in a couple cases zero tip. Its a crap shoot going to the spa for the first time so I think you lucked out in this situation.
If you've ever been to an AMP or an EMP, you know how annoying it is for the MT to get you all worked up and then stop to ask "How much you give me?" What's worse is if they make you get up to get the the donation out of your pants, count it out, run to another room to put it away and come back 5 minutes later. I much prefer it when the MT simply does the HJ with a smile on her face, lets you roam, and accepts the tip you leave her gracefully as you leave. I also think the later way is safer from LEO, since no exchange is discussed. Sure there's the chance that the girl will get stiffed by the cheap skate, but it is better than getting busted, right?
So over the weekend I visited a new AMP in the northwest burbs that I'd heard some good things about. I go in, and am greeted by a tall, middle aged Korean woman, but with a gut like a beach ball. Going by the said mentioned reports, I decide to stick it out. She tells me to put it back in. No, just kidding. She gives the table shower, but doesn't spend too much time on the butt crack or the junk, so I figure she's not sure about me. I make small talk about the shower and the massage to indicate that I've been to lots of AMPs over the years. Things start to warm up on the massage. She has me turn over and begins a chest and shoulder massage that leaves her boobs right in my face, contact. So, although I am not turned on by her body at all, I figure if I keep my eyes closed it might be OK. I reach up and over and start stroking her legs and butt. She smiles and mumbles a question that is neither English nor Korean. Again, protecting herself by NOT initiating any discussion. Take the next step, I indicate her mouth, my dick. She smiles and leaves the room, I suppose for a cover.
Two minutes later a much nicer looking Korean woman comes in, makes introductions, and just dropping clothes, shoving her tits in my face, reaching down and stroking Big Jim. She gets on the table, puts the cover on with her mouth and gets to work. At this point, no discussion of money, not even a "You tip me good?" Nope, just to work. After five minutes of the covered BJ, I tell her I changed my mind and want it all. Three positions later we're all done. Clean up, more massage. She offers me a second shot. I thought she was joking, but she was serious. Sadly, this old man is spent. She helps me get dressed, gives me water, even lets me suck her tits for another minute. I reach for my wallet and she turns away, not looking. I got the standard donation for FS and try to hand it to her. She asks me to put it on the table, please. So I do so, and she walks me out the door. She says bye, big woman says bye. I say bye, promising to be back (I will). But she still has no clue as to what I left.
My point. While I've gotten plenty of handies from new spas and MTs that didn't know me, without discussing donation, I've never gotten a BJ, or even expect to get FS, without at least agreeing on the price. That seems a long way to go on trust. I pointed out that I made it clear I was an experienced spa goer. But still, FS?
Now there is nothing that happened that could get the girls busted, I think. Money was not discussed at all after I paid the door fee. Am I wrong? Did I miss something? I'm thinking they were willing to go this far for someone who wasn't acting like a dick, initiated action, and had experience all on the expectation that I would pay and they would not be caught asking sex for money.
As far as I know As long as money is not discussed you can get FS, HJ whatever, since it's just two consenting adults. The issue comes when they start discussing donations. I've also said no to discussions about donations beforehand and if they push I just will leave or donate to massage only. The discussion always kills the mood of the session.
You mention going to other places and being hassled about getting the donation first. That has happened to me and I say no I always pay after. The last few times they dropped it but I've had some occasions where they have not and ended up tipping for just the massage and in a couple cases zero tip. Its a crap shoot going to the spa for the first time so I think you lucked out in this situation.
Looking forward to tomorrow. I've had blue balls for far too long. Had the urge to go looking for some action, but didn't want to take a chance over the 4th of July weekend. Police tend to be out in greater numbers, and they like stopping people from out of town because we're less likely to fight citations in court. Not sure if they would be dumb or petty enough to harass people at local MPs, but they did have a checkpoint at the Illinois border stopping people and looking for illegal fireworks coming in from Indiana. Why risk it? And trolling for SWs would probably be worse. I know I probably play it safe a little too often here, but I'd rather be safe than sorry. So far I've been lucky. Any other mongers have problems this weekend?
Open question, looking for answers.
Over the years, I've occasionally gotten providers who want to know all about you, including that killer, Are you married? I really hate that. No good answer to that question. She wants to know what I do for a living? Fine. What am I doing after the massage? No problem. Are you married? Why the hell would they ask that?
A few weeks ago I got a provider at a local spa who didn't know me. She asks all those questions, including the killer. Then she showed me a pretty good time, I must admit. A few days ago I went back and got her again. The session was a lot quieter this time, but on the flip, we discuss what I want, with me standing completely at attention? "You're married, right?" Are they expecting me to propose?
DMichaels69
07-14-16, 22:58
They want you to carry them away and pay all their bills, they are lazy. That is their version of the American dream.
Open question, looking for answers.
Over the years, I've occasionally gotten providers who want to know all about you, including that killer, Are you married? I really hate that. No good answer to that question. She wants to know what I do for a living? Fine. What am I doing after the massage? No problem. Are you married? Why the hell would they ask that?
A few weeks ago I got a provider at a local spa who didn't know me. She asks all those questions, including the killer. Then she showed me a pretty good time, I must admit. A few days ago I went back and got her again. The session was a lot quieter this time, but on the flip, we discuss what I want, with me standing completely at attention? "You're married, right?" Are they expecting me to propose?
I've never had an issue with questions. I wear my wedding ring. I tell them my name and contact information. Even business card. I even took my friend to my house for a couple minutes because I had to retrieve something I forgot. In other words, for people I care about, I leave myself completely vulnerable. It's a judgement call about the character of the person you are with. So of course plenty of people I would not share vital information. The flip side, is they leave themselves completely vulnerable to me. I know their real full names and where they are from. All family details. They place their trust in me and I place my trust in them. We travel places together. Cook together. The net result is an actual relationship rather than a business arrangement. HAving said that, there are plenty of people I would never trust. But frankly, those are the ones I'm not interested in. Bob.
Open question, looking for answers.
Over the years, I've occasionally gotten providers who want to know all about you, including that killer, Are you married? I really hate that. No good answer to that question. She wants to know what I do for a living? Fine. What am I doing after the massage? No problem. Are you married? Why the hell would they ask that?
A few weeks ago I got a provider at a local spa who didn't know me. She asks all those questions, including the killer. Then she showed me a pretty good time, I must admit. A few days ago I went back and got her again. The session was a lot quieter this time, but on the flip, we discuss what I want, with me standing completely at attention? "You're married, right?" Are they expecting me to propose?
DMichaels69
07-15-16, 09:10
You took one to your house? Not concerned a neighbor would see?
I've never had an issue with questions. I wear my wedding ring. I tell them my name and contact information. Even business card. I even took my friend to my house for a couple minutes because I had to retrieve something I forgot. In other words, for people I care about, I leave myself completely vulnerable. It's a judgement call about the character of the person you are with. So of course plenty of people I would not share vital information. The flip side, is they leave themselves completely vulnerable to me. I know their real full names and where they are from. All family details. They place their trust in me and I place my trust in them. We travel places together. Cook together. The net result is an actual relationship rather than a business arrangement. HAving said that, there are plenty of people I would never trust. But frankly, those are the ones I'm not interested in. Bob.
You took one to your house? Not concerned a neighbor would see?
Drove quickly into the garage. Houses are far apart. But I agree, from my long list of foolish risk taking behavior, that one is near the top of the list.
Open question, looking for answers.
Over the years, I've occasionally gotten providers who want to know all about you, including that killer, Are you married? I really hate that. No good answer to that question. She wants to know what I do for a living? Fine. What am I doing after the massage? No problem. Are you married? Why the hell would they ask that?
A few weeks ago I got a provider at a local spa who didn't know me. She asks all those questions, including the killer. Then she showed me a pretty good time, I must admit. A few days ago I went back and got her again. The session was a lot quieter this time, but on the flip, we discuss what I want, with me standing completely at attention? "You're married, right?" Are they expecting me to propose?I have had a few providers at AMPs who were open to playing outside until they found out I was married. It could be something as simple as that. Some may just want to get to know their regulars to become more comfortable with them. I do not freak out when the lady that cuts my hair asks those same questions.
I think wearing the wedding ring works in my favor. They know immediately, where they stand. So if they want to see you, there are no expectations other than friendship. I know are a few people that will not date a married guy, but probably just as many that will. Bob.
I have had a few providers at AMPs who were open to playing outside until they found out I was married. It could be something as simple as that. Some may just want to get to know their regulars to become more comfortable with them. I do not freak out when the lady that cuts my hair asks those same questions.
Open question, looking for answers.
Over the years, I've occasionally gotten providers who want to know all about you, including that killer, Are you married? I really hate that. No good answer to that question. She wants to know what I do for a living? Fine. What am I doing after the massage? No problem. Are you married? Why the hell would they ask that?
A few weeks ago I got a provider at a local spa who didn't know me. She asks all those questions, including the killer. Then she showed me a pretty good time, I must admit. A few days ago I went back and got her again. The session was a lot quieter this time, but on the flip, we discuss what I want, with me standing completely at attention? "You're married, right?" Are they expecting me to propose?I have an atf that is going on an extended vacation soon. So I'm pretty sure I won't be seeing her again. I haven't worn my ring in the times I've seen her. The actual reason is that I gained too much weight to wear it. I do have a temporary "fatfinger wedding band" I was thinking of wearing it the last time I see her just to see if I get any different treatment or reaction out of her.
Sam Singer
07-16-16, 01:07
Open question, looking for answers.
Over the years, I've occasionally gotten providers who want to know all about you, including that killer, Are you married? I really hate that. No good answer to that question. She wants to know what I do for a living? Fine. What am I doing after the massage? No problem. Are you married? Why the hell would they ask that?
A few weeks ago I got a provider at a local spa who didn't know me. She asks all those questions, including the killer. Then she showed me a pretty good time, I must admit. A few days ago I went back and got her again. The session was a lot quieter this time, but on the flip, we discuss what I want, with me standing completely at attention? "You're married, right?" Are they expecting me to propose?One girl went one step further and asked 'Why are you coming to me when you have her?' And immediately answered her own question 'probably she does not do what you want and you get that from me'. I wanted to say every pussy is different but I simply nodded my head.
AllNewTome
07-24-16, 14:19
Used to travel to St Louis a lot. Heard she may have changed names after some trouble with a pirate in G B and.
Has anyone used the agency Chicago Escorts Club? The providers look great but can not find any information regarding the agency or the girls.
Has anyone used the agency Chicago Escorts Club? The providers look great but can not find any information regarding the agency or the girls.If you Goggle Chicago Escorts, you will find a plethora (Big word for me!) of escorts. I'm sure the ones you're looking for are there.
Happy Hunting. Bang one for Mr Stinky. .
If you've ever been to an AMP or an EMP, you know how annoying it is for the MT to get you all worked up and then stop to ask "How much you give me?" What's worse is if they make you get up to get the the donation out of your pants, count it out, run to another room to put it away and come back 5 minutes later. I much prefer it when the MT simply does the HJ with a smile on her face, lets you roam, and accepts the tip you leave her gracefully as you leave. I also think the later way is safer from LEO, since no exchange is discussed. Sure there's the chance that the girl will get stiffed by the cheap skate, but it is better than getting busted, right?
So over the weekend I visited a new AMP in the northwest burbs that I'd heard some good things about. I go in, and am greeted by a tall, middle aged Korean woman, but with a gut like a beach ball. Going by the said mentioned reports, I decide to stick it out. She tells me to put it back in. No, just kidding. She gives the table shower, but doesn't spend too much time on the butt crack or the junk, so I figure she's not sure about me. I make small talk about the shower and the massage to indicate that I've been to lots of AMPs over the years. Things start to warm up on the massage. She has me turn over and begins a chest and shoulder massage that leaves her boobs right in my face, contact. So, although I am not turned on by her body at all, I figure if I keep my eyes closed it might be OK. I reach up and over and start stroking her legs and butt. She smiles and mumbles a question that is neither English nor Korean. Again, protecting herself by NOT initiating any discussion. Take the next step, I indicate her mouth, my dick. She smiles and leaves the room, I suppose for a cover.
Two minutes later a much nicer looking Korean woman comes in, makes introductions, and just dropping clothes, shoving her tits in my face, reaching down and stroking Big Jim. She gets on the table, puts the cover on with her mouth and gets to work. At this point, no discussion of money, not even a "You tip me good?" Nope, just to work. After five minutes of the covered BJ, I tell her I changed my mind and want it all. Three positions later we're all done. Clean up, more massage. She offers me a second shot. I thought she was joking, but she was serious. Sadly, this old man is spent. She helps me get dressed, gives me water, even lets me suck her tits for another minute. I reach for my wallet and she turns away, not looking. I got the standard donation for FS and try to hand it to her. She asks me to put it on the table, please. So I do so, and she walks me out the door. She says bye, big woman says bye. I say bye, promising to be back (I will). But she still has no clue as to what I left.
My point. While I've gotten plenty of handies from new spas and MTs that didn't know me, without discussing donation, I've never gotten a BJ, or even expect to get FS, without at least agreeing on the price. That seems a long way to go on trust. I pointed out that I made it clear I was an experienced spa goer. But still, FS?
Now there is nothing that happened that could get the girls busted, I think. Money was not discussed at all after I paid the door fee. Am I wrong? Did I miss something? I'm thinking they were willing to go this far for someone who wasn't acting like a dick, initiated action, and had experience all on the expectation that I would pay and they would not be caught asking sex for money.It happened to me again. Went to a different AMP in the NW burbs, one I hadn't been to in a couple of years because the prices had gone up. But I had nothing better going, so I figured I'd let lose with some cash. During the table shower the girl, very nice looking, could see that I was an experienced spa goer, and I certainly gave all the signs of being one. During the massage she starts strong, then I hear some rustling sounds, and then she climbs on the table and lies down on top of me, grinding and tickling. I express my enjoyment. Then it occurred to me, she's naked. My hands go up to confirm. Yep, buck naked. I reach, take, fondle. You get the picture. Out comes a cover. There was no negotiations. She didn't even ask me what I wanted. I got it all, and not a word was spoken about a price.
On the way out we're all nice and friendly and I leave her the standard for the services rendered. She's happy. I'm very happy. Yes, I'll see her again.
Point being, no chance either of us could be busted for the exchange. If I care to give her money afterwards, that's just me being a nice guy. But it takes a bit of trust on the girls part, to know I'm not going to stiff her on the tip.
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