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12-31-05, 23:00
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Da Bot
01-14-06, 20:59
Stopped by my fav LAMP last week. Saw Miss "F" for the first time, though she says she's been working there for years. F is a tall latina, medium build, with nice, high tits. Pleasant face, but not a knockout.

She dropped her skirt, pulled up her top and pulled down her bra, but kept her boots on. Then came the usual order of things: cbj, cg, ds, mish to complete.

No greek, she won't for any price.

All in all a fun time. I'll repeat.

Popncim
01-14-06, 21:17
Stopped by my fav LAMP last week. Saw Miss "F" for the first time, though she says she's been working there for years. F is a tall latina, medium build, with nice, high tits. Pleasant face, but not a knockout.

She dropped her skirt, pulled up her top and pulled down her bra, but kept her boots on. Then came the usual order of things: cbj, cg, ds, mish to complete.

No greek, she won't for any price.

All in all a fun time. I'll repeat.Hey Da Bot, Watta Bot the $ ?

Door? Time? Tip? Any DATY posibilities?

Thanks,

3 Pops

FedEx
01-19-06, 12:34
Picked up a LA Weekly last week and looked up the AMP's ads when all of a sudden I found a familiar name with a familiar address: Best Spa on V.N. Blvd. near Parthenia.

Whoa! Between Feb. of 1998 and November of 2001 I left gallons of love juice there on a twice-a-week basis. That was until the talent declined and I also found West Valley Therapy & Topanga Therapy in Chatsworth at the same time.

So I rang them up and the MMS confirmed it was the same location. Told her I use to come there a lot in the old days and she asked me to come again. Asked her if she was Korean and she said yes. Due to my recent horrible experiences at Hello Spa, I then asked her if she had YOUNG girls and she said NO!

I guess this may be another elderly, semi-retired Korean providers place like Hello Spa, but I can be mistaken. Did anyone already take one for the team?

They reopened on Jan 4th, according to their ad.

Blake 4
01-20-06, 02:36
Picked up a LA Weekly last week and looked up the AMP's ads when all of a sudden I found a familiar name with a familiar address: Best Spa on V.N. Blvd. near Parthenia.

Whoa! Between Feb. of 1998 and November of 2001 I left gallons of love juice there on a twice-a-week basis. That was until the talent declined and I also found West Valley Therapy & Topanga Therapy in Chatsworth at the same time.

So I rang them up and the MMS confirmed it was the same location. Told her I use to come there a lot in the old days and she asked me to come again. Asked her if she was Korean and she said yes. Due to my recent horrible experiences at Hello Spa, I then asked her if she had YOUNG girls and she said NO!

I guess this may be another elderly, semi-retired Korean providers place like Hello Spa, but I can be mistaken. Did anyone already take one for the team?

They reopened on Jan 4th, according to their ad.I posted 2 reports on Hello Spa, the last one was so bad, it succeeded in turning me off completely to AMPs.

Da Bot
01-21-06, 00:47
Hey Da Bot, Watta Bot the $ ?

Door? Time? Tip? Any DATY posibilities?

Thanks,

3 Pops

.5 entry fee for 30 min, $ for her.

It was early evening.

I don't do DATY, so I never asked.

StikkyOne
01-23-06, 03:03
I saw an ad for AMP in Valley, Saticoy and White Oak. I called, said Koreans, shower available, 40 door. I got there, they wouldn't let me see or pick. I should have left then. went for it. Older korean massage only. Fuck!

FedEx
01-24-06, 00:09
Yep - the current Valley AMP's can either offer older Koreans with overpriced rush FS or older Chinese providers with HJ if you are lucky. Same can be said for Simi Valley.

For good AMP action, you have to drive an hour west or an hour east these days...


I posted 2 reports on Hello Spa, the last one was so bad, it succeeded in turning me off completely to AMPs.

Lulu Pussy
02-03-06, 00:29
Hit a little place from the weekly on Riverside in NH a bit east of Lank. Got a woman with a smokin body, but a 4-5 north of the neck. Asked her name, she thought about for a minute, then said Anney.

Nice little boobs, great nips, but she wouldn;t let me undo her jeans. Nuttin but another HJ. 2 jacksons for the door, one for the handshake.

Da Bot
03-04-06, 11:37
AMPs aren't completely dead in the valley. Not what it was years ago, but...

Stopped by an AMP this week and saw miss "M". M is an Asian girl, probably in her late 20s. Not a knockout for looks, but I'd give her a 7. Great pair of bolt-ons, and a decent ass. A number of tattoos on various parts of her bod.

No preliminaries, she just comes into the room, says "hi" and strips (mamasan knows me and has told her I'm a regular). Then it's the usual drill: hj, cbj, cg, mish, ds. No objections as I put my hands anywhere I want as well. Finally greek ds to completion.

All in all a very pleasant experience for $.9 total. I'll repeat.

Vlad De Sade
03-05-06, 03:39
Brother,

Thats encouraging news. I too have faired a bit better of late while amping in da valley. Nothing like the old salad days for sure...

Oh damn, I need to build that time machine back to the summer of 2002 when over 35 AMP's were operating all over the SFV!

Okay, bro keep up the great vaugely detailed reports. And lets all remember that LE pressure in da valley is severe. So make them work and keep the real s**t off of the radar. PM the vital intel to trusted brothers only. Sorry, newbies but LE has made paranoia a permanent part of the game here in the once mighty valley...

Laterz, da I Sadist

Da Bot
03-05-06, 12:44
...a couple of weeks ago. Hit my favorite LAMP and saw miss "S". S appears to be in her late 20s, with small tits and a round ass. S doesn't speak a whole lot of English, but we managed to communicate well enough. No competition for JLo, but I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating cookies. Face is in the 6-7 range.

Decent cbj, then to mish, cg, ds, back to mish to completion. She won't do greek; too bad, what with that great ass.

Total damage $.5. Not my best experience there, but if she were all that was available I wouldn't walk away.

Lulu Pussy
03-08-06, 22:58
Hit a new AMP today in the West Valley. Saw Ms. K.

Not the best looking gal, but pickin's are slim in the SFV. Finally was able to get a BJ and a little DATY in the Valley (but no FS). She has a GREAT body, nice sized naturals for for an Asian girl, great nips, really cute ass. Nice little furry Lulu.

Here's the crazy thing. She had no condoms (GOOD!) but managed to pull a Gladlock bag out of a drawer in the room! So not quite a CBJ, but a GLBJ.

The GL was seriously "keeping the freshness in" so finished with a HJ.

Total damage was a pair of Jacksons for the room and a Bengie for Ms. K. I know I paid too much, but WTF.

Love PHD
03-15-06, 04:35
I think Glad bags cost more that condoms. You're probably getting the real full service that people are looking for.

Webcams
03-16-06, 19:38
Heard alot of places are scratching the condoms for saran wrap or latex strips, in order to avoid LE using the possesion as evidence against them in case of a bust. The mere possesion is not illegal, but when you keep a supply LE can use that to attempt to show a jury, that massages don't require rubbers, I belive le's harsh enforcment willl cause a rise in std's, but wtf just my 2 cents, seems if you want to play safe, you gotta always bring your own just in case, but remember married men, throw away the one's you don't use! I have heard the horrors of trying to explain them away from married guys!

FedEx
03-16-06, 20:26
This is just the difference between a KMP and a CMP. The Koreans will always have condoms, because they will never pass on an opportunity to make extra money (FS). The Chinese are more reserved.

Since I have taken my game from the no-action SFV to Oxnard & SGV, the difference is even more blatant. In the 'Nard - mostly Koreans - you never have to worry about bringing a cover (most girls here will offer you BBFS, but that's another story...). In any CMP, if you don't bring your own cover, the best you will get is a HJ or a saran wrap BJ (I got one at a Simi Valley CMP once and didn't like it). In my current favorite SGV CMP, I have to bring my own cover (BBFS is also offered here...) and when we're done, the provider gives me the used condom, wrapped in a napkin and asks me to discard it in the trash can outside...

As for the married men warning - that's a good point. I keep my stash in a hidden compartment of my car and anyway my wife hardly drives it.

Have fun!


Heard alot of places are scratching the condoms for saran wrap or latex strips, in order to avoid LE using the possesion as evidence against them in case of a bust. The mere possesion is not illegal, but when you keep a supply LE can use that to attempt to show a jury, that massages don't require rubbers, I belive le's harsh enforcment willl cause a rise in std's, but wtf just my 2 cents, seems if you want to play safe, you gotta always bring your own just in case, but remember married men, throw away the one's you don't use! I have heard the horrors of trying to explain them away from married guys!

Lulu Pussy
03-20-06, 11:55
...As for the married men warning - that's a good point. I keep my stash in a hidden compartment of my car and anyway my wife hardly drives it.To make sure my hobby stays a mistery from the Mrs., I got bought a pay-as-you-go cellphone to do my CL and related hobbying. I checked all the different plans and phones. Best deal I could find was at Target for the T-mobile phone and service. Got the cheapest phone, the cheapest starter card, then got the one-year card when the starter expired a couple months later.

I keep it in my car and only use it there. If the Mrs. ever happens to find it, I can always say something like "that must be Joe's from work."

As to condoms, I never bring 'em in the hopes of bareback riding. I've done a lot of hobbying over the years (I'm an older guy) and have never gotten a thing.

Webcams
03-25-06, 12:29
Starting to see alot of ad's for amp's & lamps In the SFV.. Getting better ?

agoodfella
04-09-06, 15:10
Guys,

Can anyone recommend any good massage (+ happy finish) places in Burbank?

Just looking for a decent asian rub / tug place.

Thanks

FedEx
04-17-06, 00:34
Took a couple for the team on Saturday afternoon (4/15).

8537 Reseda Blvd. is a totally legit Korean Massage place (I never thought I would write this combination of words...). The place is rather new with polished hardwood floors, large windows on the doors and real massage beds.

Gave the 30 y.o. K-girl $40 for 1/2 hour, stripped to my undies and waited. She came back after a few minutes and motioned me to climb on the bed. I approached her, extended my hand to make contact and she stopped me right there, saying: "No touchie!". I apologized and said I would leave. She smiled an said OK. While I was dressing, an older K-Lady (mms, perhaps) came in and tried to save the sale: "We give you very good massagie". I told her I was not there for the massage. She nodded & left. I had to go to their gathering room to ask for my $40 back, 'cause they did not make any effort to voluntarily return it. When I asked, I got it back. Fair enough.

Not far from there, I entered a CMP. Handed over $40 for 1/2 hour to a mid 30's C-girl (thin and to my liking, although some would classify her as plain).
Brushed my hand over her chest and took her other hand and brushed it against my member. No objection. She left for a minute and then come back. Asked if I wanted massage and I said no. I exposed her breasts and fondled them for a fes seconds, then mentioned with hand signals that I wanted a BJ (you hardly get more than that at the SFV CMP's - and only when you bring your own cover). She said OK and asked how much I would pay her. I asked how much she wanted and after a slight hesitation, she said $120. I said NO WAY and did not have to act very surprised, because I was.

I told her $60 is the tops I would pay and she countered with $80. I was not going to shell a total of $120 for cbj, $100 is expensive enough (for that amount you can get FS in Oxnard). So I told her I'm leaving and started dressing. She left and spoke to the mms in the corridor. A minute later both entered the room, the mms trying to save the sale. I told her that for $100 I can get cbj in a Van Nuys cmp and that's where I was headed. That was fine by both and a few seconds later I got my money back.

Headed to V.N., got a good massage and a cbj for a total damage of $100 and that was it. (I was supposed to go to the SGV yesterday, but the wife shortened my free time from 3 to 1.5 hours, so I had to settle for the best local solution).

Just to think that 4 years ago we had 36 KAMP in the SFV - unbelievable!!!!

Have fun & stay safe!

SteveLee333
05-11-06, 19:22
I went to one near Topanga and was greeted by a girl who I would rate 3. Seriously thought about bailing out but stayed to see if I could get a good massage at least.

What a mistake! The massage was terrible. She just rubbed her hands with some lotion on my back. After the flip she asked if I wanted anything else. We agreed on the most simple method and she went to work. I just finished as soon as possbile and took off. On my way out she said to bring my own supply if I wanted more. I thought to myself NO WAY I'm coming back.

Vlad De Sade
05-21-06, 00:55
Mongers,

Yesterday, Friday, I had a funny experience. Long story short. I put some recent research to good use. I got free from my work in the early evening. I had seen regular, non pro, hotties all over the SFV during the week as I did my missions... So I was pent up for sure! I checked my $$$ 160. What could I do? It was just past 7pm.

I used my phone to call some #s I had harvested from the LA Weekly. Lots of choices... I started w/a place off of Victory & Tampa. Its called Asian therapy. I call the mama san she says 2 girls working mimi & lulu. Sweet I say to myself. And w/that I pop a Vit V. I get there and its still looking good. Like the old Chiropractic place off of Reseda & Roscoe (Remember that place ER2). So I'm inside and it turns out only Mimi is there and she is fat. I get naked and she acts cool. Yet, she really just wants to give me a massage. Period. So I get dressed, get my money back and bail. F**king waste of time!

Now I am focused. And working against the clock. Tick, tick, tick... I call Oriental therapy off of Reseda & Victory. Closed for more than a week now. I'm thinking BUSTED. So I call Pacific care, the old Joy therapy in Van Nuys, and they are open. I get there and I see a hot latina in back of the reception area. I'm thinking sweet. NOT! I get to my room and get the line up. 2 fat latinas. WTF? I ask dude he says the one I want her shift is over. Bummer. So I pick the thinner one and get naked. She freaks and tells me only aromatherapy no massage. I cut my losses tell her no thanks and get my $$$ back from dude. I dont need scented oils I need sex. I almost miss Rainbow therapy at this point.

In my ride I call Victory's therapy off of SB & Vanowen. Only aromatherapy. No massage offered. I say thanks and hang up. This is sucking. And I'm getting horny and harder by the minute.

So I call a place in NOHO off of Riverside. Its after 9pm now. Mama san answers. I ask "how many girls working?" "5 girls you come quick." I say "I'll be there by 9:30 please dont close." So I jam over from Van Nuys via Riverside due east... I make it to the area by 9:28pm. After calling mama san back for some help locating their lair I get inside by 9:35. Mama san is gracious and all smiles. She says "YOU made it." I get a big, big, big room. Seriously, I could have entertained all 5 girls by myself in that space. I get Dani. She is thick but mama san says she has a great personality. And she does. I have less than 30 minutes left. So I get a wicked hand job and prostrate massage. And I splatted her hands and chest for her effort! "Oh YOU cum so big. Lots of messy on me..." I laugh w/her and she gets hot towels for us both. I like this place it could be good w/more time and a few more visits.

So now I am relieved. Some what relieved. I get in my ride and head back west and finally get off of Riverside and take the 101 west to SB. I troll pass Hesby nada... I am still horny w/my cravings leaning towards a fine sw. I am hopeful. I always seem to find a girl when I am in this horny state of mind. I get all the way to Sherman way and I am a little...

Okay, story continued on the sw thread

Late, V da Sadist

CrazyBuzz1985
05-24-06, 05:29
I am seeing tons of new places popping up. Historically, NoHo has been sub-par and mostly legit.

Any info for a senior member would be appreciated... THX

FedEx
05-24-06, 13:05
Here's an advice to the SFV mongers:

Call the AMP in advance and ask if they have C-girls or K-girls. If it's a CAMP, bring your own cover and if you play your cards right, you may get a quick cbj from a late 30's - mid 40's C-girl for $40 + $60 (some will want more tip, but will take $60). Mostly you will get a HJ - to tip or not to tip is up to you.

If it's a KAMP, most likely you can get a rushed, unenthusiastic FS from a
45 - 55 y.o. K-lady in a room with big windows on the door. Entry will probably be $50 and the old hags will ask for $100 - $120 for the 1/2 ass service with their worn out bodies. Don't even ask for DFK... These providers used to be hot in the '70's... LOL

Take your game to the SGV, Oxnard or Hollywood / West Hollywood areas. Get a copy of the L.A. Weekly or the L.A. Xpress, read the corresponding boards on this fine California forum and everything you need is right in front of your eyes. Make some calls before you head out and have fun.

The SFV is dead - we have buried it in late 2004 with the demise of Topanga Therapy, may it rest in peace...

Just my 2 cents
Fedex



I went to one near Topanga and was greeted by a girl who I would rate 3. Seriously thought about bailing out but stayed to see if I could get a good massage at least.

What a mistake! The massage was terrible. She just rubbed her hands with some lotion on my back. After the flip she asked if I wanted anything else. We agreed on the most simple method and she went to work. I just finished as soon as possbile and took off. On my way out she said to bring my own supply if I wanted more. I thought to myself NO WAY I'm coming back.

Webcams
05-24-06, 21:59
Here's an advice to the SFV mongers:
Call the AMP in advance and ask if they have C-girls or K-girls. If it's a CAMP, bring your own cover and if you play your cards right, you may get a quick cbj from a late 30's - mid 40's C-girl for $40 + $60 (some will want more tip, but will take $60). Mostly you will get a HJ - to tip or not to tip is up to you.

If it's a KAMP, most likely you can get a rushed, unenthusiastic FS from a
45 - 55 y.o. K-lady in a room with big windows on the door. Entry will probably be $50 and the old hags will ask for $100 - $120 for the 1/2 ass service with their worn out bodies. Don't even ask for DFK... These providers used to be hot in the '70's... LOL

Take your game to the SGV, Oxnard or Hollywood / West Hollywood areas. Get a copy of the L.A. Weekly or the L.A. Xpress, read the corresponding boards on this fine California forum and everything you need is right in front of your eyes. Make some calls before you head out and have fun.

I saw a new post in this section and got excited, then I read it, at first I thought it would get better then your take on late 30's - mid 40's C-girl .. but it got worse, exposing are very limited depressing options out here.
I have No info on hollywood my experience, there all b.s., but I haven't tried an amp in the valley since maybe jan - mar of this year if not 2005, I guess we have to realize sfv is to slow so vice has to slam the few that pop up, for amp service it use to be Inglewood, but that took a shit as well, Still confused as to the big deal amps are, I am of the opinion that they should be left alone. But who am I. Thanks for the post's fedex, I remember an old old old place near the outskirts of downtown in the shadows of city hall which had very young thin pretty asian latina girls maybe 3-5 years ago, I may have to head down there soon and report back to those trusted members, the place looked so legit, I was sure nothing was happening, but it was =)

Friendly Tiger
06-10-06, 10:10
This CMP has brought in female "marketeers" from SF. They'll be here about a week. My guess is they'll do everything, and leave the tip up to you. I think they just want to quickly develop happy customers.

I was just checkin' out the place and wasn't going to stay for a massage, but...

...the Chinese girl grabbed me by the hand and pulled me into a room, before I could back out. I thought, what the hell, I'll check out this place, from the inside. LOL

She knew her way around a man's body, that's for sure. Turns out she's from SF. She has an average face, but very nice, natural B's/C's, and a very cute butt.

I didn't want to mislead her, so I told her that I will come back to see her again before she goes home to SF, because I didn't have $ for fun tonight. But she continued with the sensual touches, and oiled up the tiger cub and off to the manual races. She allowed me to pet her kitty, inside and out. I shot and left her what little remained in my wallet.

Only pm me if you already know me or if you include a worthwhile review with contact info.

ReallyaNiceGuy
06-10-06, 16:56
Thursday night my back was killing me and I decided I really needed a massage. No, I mean it, I wanted a real massage. So I jumped on Craigslist, in the Therapeutic Services section, and found an Asian place in Woodland Hills. Gave them a call to make sure they were open and got the address. When I got there two older, I mean they weren’t in their 20’s, maybe between 30 and 40, but nice looking Chinese women greeted me. I told them about my back and was led to a room upstairs. I paid the girl 40 for half an hour, she asked me to get ready and she left the room. I stripped and lay on the table for a few minutes tell she came back. She put some oil on me and went right to work on my back and I think it was helping my sore muscles a lot. She moved around so she was standing at the end by my head and started long strokes from my shoulders down my back. Soon she was rubbing my ass and inside my thighs with her whole upper body laying on me. She then forced my legs apart and went to work on my dick and hole. After awhile I turned on my side, unbuttoned her pants and slid them down. As she stepped out of her pants I lifted up her shirt and she unhooked her bra. I guided her head to go down on me and got a BBBJ without saying a word. I pulled her up and she kissed me all over my lips, face, neck and chest as she pulled her panties aside and slid me into her. After she got used to the size she really started to rock and roll. She seemed to be really enjoying herself so I just hung on for the ride. It felt like she came a couple of times before I shot my load inside of her and she acted like she enjoyed that even more. After we were done she wanted to cuddle and she got giggly and very playful. She then got up and got a damp cloth and cleaned me up. She got my clothes and helped me get dressed. Don’t you just love that about Asian girls! As I was leaving I asked her about a tip but she spoke almost no English and didn’t understand what I was talking about so I started to leave. But she stopped me and as she looked into my eyes she said something I didn’t understand and made this sign with her hands about the size of a dollar. I said OK and pulled out a 20, she took it and said something else I didn’t understand so I pulled out another 20 and gave it to her and now she was happy and gave me a big hug and a big wet kiss. We walked downstairs hand in hand as she kept saying “You love Lisa”. The other lady was sitting on the couch and got up to introduce herself and as she told me her name was Cindy she gave me a hug and a kiss on the cheek then they both held my hand and walked me to the door. What an unexpected surprise the whole thing was and only 80 bucks. Not only that the next day my back felt great. Now I know I shouldn’t have done it without protection and I ALWAYS do but what the heck now.

By the way, I looked this place up on the Erotic Section and they have several ads there as well. Interesting thing is that it states “This is not full service” I wonder if the boss knows what these girls are up to. You think?

I will be back and it’s close to my house but next time I think I’ll try Cindy.

Mike

Friendly Tiger
06-10-06, 17:29
Waytago, Mike!!!

Vlad De Sade
06-11-06, 02:28
Mongers,

I am happy YOU have found some decent CAMP fun. Good work boys. The SFV has everything we need: professionals, amateurs, CAMPS, etc... Sure the glory days of past are long gone but never forgotten.

I am especially pleased that YOU guys are keeping it off the radar. CAMPs are great fun. And FS can be had along w/a great massage. Do not post names of places or their locations. PM to trusted members only! And always have a blast all over some beautiful pale skinned Chinese girls face... I do!

Late, V da Sadist

Oc Amper
06-11-06, 03:36
PM to trusted members only!

It always makes me wonder when someone makes a statement like this. There is no way to know who is trusted or not.

Like I've said before, the police know of these places. In fact, in most cities, the application for the massage permit goes before the Chief of Police.

Some cities have enacted ordinances where officials may inspect these parlors at any time, without a search warrant. BTW, this was challenged all the way to the highest courts, which found the searches constitutional. This is the long way of saying, in many cities LE tolerates these establishments. Other cities, there is no tolerance. These places will come onto the radar regardless of what is written here or not.
If you didn't know, there are review sites where individuals post of their conquests in extreme and organized detail. To not put useful information only serves to make this site not as useful as the others, which doesn't really help us.

Webcams
06-11-06, 14:49
By the way, I looked this place up on the Erotic Section and they have several ads there as well. Interesting thing is that it states “This is not full service” I wonder if the boss knows what these girls are up to. You think?
I will be back and it’s close to my house but next time I think I’ll try Cindy.
Mike
A good masage & f/s In the Valley Can we be so lucky ? ?

Let me know the name & loc if you get a chance I would love to check out something local for a change, I haven't seen a thing here in Years.
Thanks Be Safe || Have fun

Bobby O
06-12-06, 00:35
ReallyaNiceGuy,

Don't bother with Cindy, fully clothed HJ only.

Vlad De Sade
06-13-06, 01:23
OCA,

Bro, YOU are not trusted. I am so tired of your rants...

Seriously, a trusted member is a fellow monger who has over the MONTHS & YEARS exchanged quality, reliable, accurate and real intel w/me VIA THE PM FEATURE. This is so simple why do I even attempt to educate YOU. Please, fellow mongers send OCA a barrage of PM's expaining how this all works. We all know LE is here. If YOU dont believe it yourself YOU are delusional. All YOU got to do is read back in the SFV archives, 2001-2002, to read posts by Anon, LE watcher, etc...

I dont want to make it any easier for LE or idiot mongers on this board. I believe YOU are both! YOU always talk about law links, law cases, court houses, penal codes, LE tricks, and YOU are not able to think outside of the box. I could continue ripping on YOU but another pig who wants to be cool is just a joke! Please, be aware that your cover is blown. And if YOU were trying to hide it YOU failed. Oh yeah, if your not LE YOU are just a wanna be pig and thats bad enough...

Okay, enough real mongers understand the game and how it is played. YOU sadly do not. I am done w/YOU and your attacks. Good luck, stay safe and have a nice day!

Late, V da Sadist

Oc Amper
06-13-06, 01:52
OCA,

Bro, YOU are not trusted. I am so tired of your rants...

Seriously, a trusted member is a fellow monger who has over the MONTHS & YEARS exchanged quality, reliable, accurate and real intel w/me VIA THE PM FEATURE. This is so simple why do I even attempt to educate YOU. Please, fellow mongers send OCA a barrage of PM's expaining how this all works. We all know LE is here. If YOU dont believe it yourself YOU are delusional. All YOU got to do is read back in the SFV archives, 2001-2002, to read posts by Anon, LE watcher, etc...

I dont want to make it any easier for LE or idiot mongers on this board. I believe YOU are both! YOU always talk about law links, law cases, court houses, penal codes, LE tricks, and YOU are not able to think outside of the box. I could continue ripping on YOU but another pig who wants to be cool is just a joke! Please, be aware that your cover is blown. And if YOU were trying to hide it YOU failed. Oh yeah, if your not LE YOU are just a wanna be pig and thats bad enough...

Okay, enough real mongers understand the game and how it is played. YOU sadly do not. I am done w/YOU and your attacks. Good luck, stay safe and have a nice day!

Late, V da Sadist

What a bunch of babble. Just because I disagree with your strategy, you resort to a senseless attack, and encourage a barrage of PM's. Senseless. I suppose that really shows your state of mind.

The truth of the matter, as I have an interest in this subject I have bothered to do some research. Nearly all of it available via google, sure, I did open a Pacer account so that I could observe the pending case against Mao and company. Everything else, you can find on your own using your favorite search engine. I encourage you to do so. The articles you will find will really open your eyes. You will find that LE in many municipalities basically tolerates MP's, for what ever reason. When they get their marching orders, they will close down a shop. Otherwise, how could you possibly explain cities like Inglewood. They have several AMP's that have been open for nearly 10 years plus. Sure, a number of them closed recently, but not due to local LE.

As far as LE goes, they don't need this forum. In fact, they really don't need any forum, but there are other forums that provide similiar info. If its simply a matter of principal, then sure not posting the info works to a degree, but only to serve your own principals. If you think that strategy is actually going to work and protect these places, then I am not the one that is delusional. You would be totally ignoring these other forums that are providing info.

Oc Amper
06-14-06, 01:38
There are very few people willing to think about these issues and then comment upon them.
I am sure that we have some legal professionals, whether it be an attorney, police officers that are here for their own personal needs or what ever.
If you do have extended knowledge of the laws, and how postings here might be used or why they couldn't be used, we'd all love to hear about it.

As far as the current debate, Vlad De Sade and I have very different views on the subject. That is alright.

Rather than carry on a long and drawn-out thread that is likely to bore everyone, since no one else comments, why don't we think about how we can change the current situation. Whether it be legalization or legislation, we do need to come up with a plan. This is one point that we all probably agree on.

If you have ideas on how to carry out this plan, I'm sure that this would be a lively conversation. One that we all would be willing to carry on.

Webcams
06-15-06, 07:58
I got to chime in quickly, I use to belive it was ok to post everything out for everyone to see, that was why we have this board, and slowly but surely everything was closed, now I am of the opinion that pm the details is much better then posting it out for everyone to see, sure le could be a senior member with 1500 post's, but the chances are slim, LE use this board? Maybe but why risk it? why give out intel to someone who hasn't provided anything themselves? can post's on this board be use din a court of law, maybe to obtain proable cause to search a place, against a monger I doubt it, but with the current enviroment against privacy and freedom of speech I would not want to risk it. Simply put it ain't worth posting details what's the payoff? s/w's and strippers amps etc are diffrent s/w's are fluid they move from place to place amps can't, it makes them an easy target for le to bust. ok to post very vaugue details but don't get specific it's just not worth it.

Patbutter
06-15-06, 16:03
I got to chime in quickly, I use to belive it was ok to post everything out for everyone to see, that was why we have this board, and slowly but surely everything was closed, now I am of the opinion that pm the details is much better then posting it out for everyone to see, sure le could be a senior member with 1500 post's, but the chances are slim, LE use this board? Maybe but why risk it? why give out intel to someone who hasn't provided anything themselves? can post's on this board be use din a court of law, maybe to obtain proable cause to search a place, against a monger I doubt it, but with the current enviroment against privacy and freedom of speech I would not want to risk it. Simply put it ain't worth posting details what's the payoff? s/w's and strippers amps etc are diffrent s/w's are fluid they move from place to place amps can't, it makes them an easy target for le to bust. ok to post very vaugue details but don't get specific it's just not worth it.The upside to posting about anything is that everyone gets the info - newbies and non-senior members are not left out. I don't get the comment above that "everything was closed". There are tons of places open despite many, many posts on this board and even more so on others. You guys who think there is info here - check out the mp reviews website (hope it's OK to post this). There has been tremendously detailed info there for years and these places are still open.

Look, OCAMPer and I have posted the arguments for posting details and that doing so does not tell LE anything that they don't know already - look up my posts on Orange County MP thread, including details of my discussion with a former LE. It is apparent that some people just don't want to research the other boards I'm talking about and/or cannot think rationally. I guess we'll just have to do without info from you guys who are irrational about this. I get most of my info and primarily post on the other website anyway, but it would be nice if people would share here also.

FedEx
06-15-06, 16:51
OC Amper,

The simple rule of the thumb here - especially after the AMP disappearance act from the SFV and now from Da Wood - is: "Better be safe than sorry".

It's gonna make it harder on the newbies, so what? If you have earned your senior stripes, you probably have contributed before and you may be trusted.

We have put everything in the open in the past, and now we have nothing in the SFV. So we must retreat, regroup and use caution. Putting everything in the open came back to bite us in the butt, so if we try the PM system to only trusted senior members, we may enjoy some new places & providers that may pop up ocassionally here and there.

If anyone has a problem with that, they are either newbies, LE, or do not understand the way the game is played now. It's a totally different ballgame!

Just my 2 cents,
Fedex



There are very few people willing to think about these issues and then comment upon them.
I am sure that we have some legal professionals, whether it be an attorney, police officers that are here for their own personal needs or what ever.
If you do have extended knowledge of the laws, and how postings here might be used or why they couldn't be used, we'd all love to hear about it.

As far as the current debate, Vlad De Sade and I have very different views on the subject. That is alright.

Rather than carry on a long and drawn-out thread that is likely to bore everyone, since no one else comments, why don't we think about how we can change the current situation. Whether it be legalization or legislation, we do need to come up with a plan. This is one point that we all probably agree on.

If you have ideas on how to carry out this plan, I'm sure that this would be a lively conversation. One that we all would be willing to carry on.

Webcams
06-16-06, 16:51
We have put everything in the open in the past, and now we have nothing in the SFV..........

If anyone has a problem with that, they are either newbies, LE, or do not understand the way the game is played now. It's a totally different ballgame! I disagreed with these statements in the past, but Literally all the good places are gone, Why? Who cares? What everyone here is getting at is Ya the cops will eventually shut them down, but were not gonna help them kinda like voting ya your vote doesn't matter but you might still vote.

Example:
Soandso
Member 68 Posts.
He reads a post about Suck u Hard massage on Kittridge in Van Nuys He goes in the lady doesn't do a good job he pays 100.00 and is pissed he calls the cops and tells them they provide service to be a prick, if he didn't read about he might not have found it sure other websites might post it but we are here not there, so In short we post differently now maybe we got tired of posting all the good shit that cost us $$$$$$$$$$ over the years just to see people who don't contribute use our Intel without giving something back. PM Senior Members is a good deal, but I rarely PM Fake Seniors those being members without 100 or more post's, unless I feel there posts are quality and genuine. Ya fuck it earn your stripes and then you can find out about the cool non advertised apartments and houses that have Fresh Young 18-20 year old girls Latinas Whites Blacks all kinds and charge 150 for an hour in Luxury until then your stuck reading about handjob sally at the regular amps, I got a Platinum Amex & I am happy with a s/w or an escort; earn your place

ReallyaNiceGuy
06-16-06, 19:24
I called last night and Lisa was not working but I went anyways. What a mistake. I got a woman that was overweight and like 40 plus. Nothing exciting on the back side and after the flip she started a little rubbing and asked if I wanted a HJ and I told her sure. She then asked how much and I told her nothing and said I was ready to leave. She said stay and wanted to work out a deal. Well after going back and forth awhile it was clear FS was not an option and a HJ was 60 but she would take off her clothes and I could only touch her. I told her no thank you and got up and got dressed. While I was dressing I asked her questions and she was sure that no one was giving FS at these places. And the lady running it had several others places around the valley and the LA area.

Next time I will ask where Lisa is working and go there.

Mike

Friendly Tiger
06-16-06, 21:46
I think it is fool-hearty to post full details on ANY public board.

I believe that "friends" look out for "friends". I'll take prudent steps to protect my "friends" from LE, ROB's, and jerks. Less security = less details, and conversely, higher security = more details. JMO

Da Bot
06-17-06, 08:27
I haven't posted much of late, simply because it DOES seem to lead to my favorites being closed down. In fact, every time I see some sort of details posted here, I know that the place mentioned will be closed soon. I figure the CAMP mentioned below is next. Too bad, I had a good time there.

If you think LE doesn't watch this forum, you're unbelievably naive. Apparently LA LE doesn't care to be interviewed about it, but other PDs in other towns have been, and they admit to getting leads from these forums. I can't believe LA is an exception.

Pickings in the Valley are too slim as it is. We may not know for sure who can be trusted and who can't, but we can make our best effort.

FedEx
06-18-06, 15:27
Sunday 12:15pm

Just called the place and again, Lisa is not working. Only available is Cindy (reviewed earlier) & Sophie (unknown). Will pass.

Lots of places are popping up in the LA weekly lately with locations in thw west SFV, but I'm skeptic.


I called last night and Lisa was not working but I went anyways. What a mistake. I got a woman that was overweight and like 40 plus. Nothing exciting on the back side and after the flip she started a little rubbing and asked if I wanted a HJ and I told her sure. She then asked how much and I told her nothing and said I was ready to leave. She said stay and wanted to work out a deal. Well after going back and forth awhile it was clear FS was not an option and a HJ was 60 but she would take off her clothes and I could only touch her. I told her no thank you and got up and got dressed. While I was dressing I asked her questions and she was sure that no one was giving FS at these places. And the lady running it had several others places around the valley and the LA area.

Next time I will ask where Lisa is working and go there.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
06-18-06, 16:57
I went here on Saturday afternoon and the place was dead. I was let in by a very nice and friendly Chinese lady and led to a room. I told her I wanted the hour for 60 with the table shower, I love those. She asked me to undress as she left to go get the room ready. The table shower was nice and she washed everything and dried me off then back to the room and she left.
A knock at the door and another lady came in. She was Chinese, 27 years old, from San Francisco, nice little body and very friendly and flirty.
As she got me worked up I started to undress her and she never stopped me so I kept going until she was naked. I fingered her, kissed her tits and then I lifted her onto the table tried to get it inside her. At this point she made it clear that that was not an option and she asked if I had protection, which I did, and offered a BJ. In the end she wanted 100 for a CBJ and she would not budge. I told her no thank you just finish the massage. She did finish the massage and kept messing with me trying to get me to change my mind. It was fun and she was a real tease. She got me dressed and walked me to the front door where the other lady was waiting. I got a big hug from both of them and left. I didn't even leave a tip and not a word was said.




This CMP has brought in female "marketeers" from SF. They'll be here about a week. My guess is they'll do everything, and leave the tip up to you. I think they just want to quickly develop happy customers.

I was just checkin' out the place and wasn't going to stay for a massage, but...

...the Chinese girl grabbed me by the hand and pulled me into a room, before I could back out. I thought, what the hell, I'll check out this place, from the inside. LOL

She knew her way around a man's body, that's for sure. Turns out she's from SF. She has an average face, but very nice, natural B's/C's, and a very cute butt.

I didn't want to mislead her, so I told her that I will come back to see her again before she goes home to SF, because I didn't have $ for fun tonight. But she continued with the sensual touches, and oiled up the tiger cub and off to the manual races. She allowed me to pet her kitty, inside and out. I shot and left her what little remained in my wallet.

Only pm me if you already know me or if you include a worthwhile review with contact info.

Friendly Tiger
06-19-06, 10:59
Sorry you toftt, Mike. :(

That's a first: an AMP girl who let's you strip her, finger her, but won't finish the deed! I never would have guessed that my girl would have drawn that kinda line.

FT

Joe Monger
06-20-06, 16:06
OCA,

Bro, YOU are not trusted. I am so tired of your rants...

Seriously, a trusted member is a fellow monger who has over the MONTHS & YEARS exchanged quality, reliable, accurate and real intel w/me VIA THE PM FEATURE. This is so simple why do I even attempt to educate YOU. Please, fellow mongers send OCA a barrage of PM's expaining how this all works. We all know LE is here. If YOU dont believe it yourself YOU are delusional. All YOU got to do is read back in the SFV archives, 2001-2002, to read posts by Anon, LE watcher, etc...

OCA = useless. OCA you remind me of Seinfeld a.k.a. Hizark.


I disagreed with these statements in the past, but Literally all the good places are gone, Why? Who cares? What everyone here is getting at is Ya the cops will eventually shut them down, but were not gonna help them kinda like voting ya your vote doesn't matter but you might still vote.

Example:
Soandso
Member 68 Posts.
He reads a post about Suck u Hard massage on Kittridge in Van Nuys He goes in the lady doesn't do a good job he pays 100.00 and is pissed he calls the cops and tells them they provide service to be a prick, if he didn't read about he might not have found it sure other websites might post it but we are here not there, so In short we post differently now maybe we got tired of posting all the good shit that cost us $$$$$$$$$$ over the years just to see people who don't contribute use our Intel without giving something back. PM Senior Members is a good deal, but I rarely PM Fake Seniors those being members without 100 or more post's, unless I feel there posts are quality and genuine. Ya fuck it earn your stripes and then you can find out about the cool non advertised apartments and houses that have Fresh Young 18-20 year old girls Latinas Whites Blacks all kinds and charge 150 for an hour in Luxury until then your stuck reading about handjob sally at the regular amps, I got a Platinum Amex & I am happy with a s/w or an escort; earn your place

Damn, you said it bro! I feel you on every point you made in your post. Read what Webcams said fools! The best info is shared via PM. Earn your stripes and reap the rewards.

Joe

Dark A
06-21-06, 13:33
Some of you guys are extremely nieve if you think LE relies on this board for useful intel. (keyword here being USEFUL). Besides, don't you think LE is smart enough to know that in order to get real intel here you have to post enough to become "trusted"? They're NOT idiots, and contrary to what they might want you to think, an internet forum isn't going to be their prime source of intel when they have hundreds of officers interacting with hundreds of girls/jons on the street every day. I'm not advocating open availability of providers' info, I just think some of you on this board might have somewhat of a false sense of security due to the PM and postcount features :p . I guess it all boils down to who they choose to go after. We all know LE has TONS of intel but will(can?) only investigate so much.

Webcams
06-24-06, 17:55
I just think some of you on this board might have somewhat of a false sense of security due to the PM and postcount features :p .....
We all know LE has TONS of intel but will(can?) only investigate so much.
tRUE AND TRUE, nEVER EVER SAY ANYTHING INCRIMINATING TO ANYONE AT ANYTIME PERIOD, iT DOESN'T MATTER who IT IS OR WHERE YOU ARE

PM IS no diffrent, always use caution, but to share top secret info with those that have shared good intel is the best route, just not enough places left, Oh and LE are idiots it takes them forever to figure this stuff out, they falsify shit, make bogus arrests, violate everyones rights no wonder they get there ass shot and crippled, I for one feel no sympathy for pigs, there are very few who are good honest cops, the rest are crooked impotent abused disfunctional people. not a generalization, I would bet I know more le then the LE on this borad. If you want to know suicidal anti depresant abusing miserable people come hang out with some of the people that live in my area, LE are no diffrent then regular people and they with regularity take out there agressions and problems on the public. and yes LE do frequent the quieter establishments that's a fact, some even do s/w's.

Spank Me
06-25-06, 02:40
I'm wondering if there is more than one place in WH? I reread the post below from NiceGuy carefully, because I just can't seem to get the same experience! I have not noticed that the place I go to has more than one level. Below in the post you said "We walked downstairs hand in hand as she kept saying "You love Lisa". " Downstairs? Hmmm. Of course, I haven't seen Lisa either, but keep getting Cindy. Who is such a tease letting me touch her everywhere. But doesn't go all the way. Only HJ's seem to be on the menu. Good one, but some days you just need to feel a hot moist tounge. Thank goodness for Oxnard.


Thursday night my back was killing me and I decided I really needed a massage. No, I mean it, I wanted a real massage. So I jumped on Craigslist, in the Therapeutic Services section, and found an Asian place in Woodland Hills. Gave them a call to make sure they were open and got the address. When I got there two older, I mean they weren’t in their 20’s, maybe between 30 and 40, but nice looking Chinese women greeted me. I told them about my back and was led to a room upstairs. I paid the girl 40 for half an hour, she asked me to get ready and she left the room. I stripped and lay on the table for a few minutes tell she came back. She put some oil on me and went right to work on my back and I think it was helping my sore muscles a lot. She moved around so she was standing at the end by my head and started long strokes from my shoulders down my back. Soon she was rubbing my ass and inside my thighs with her whole upper body laying on me. She then forced my legs apart and went to work on my dick and hole. After awhile I turned on my side, unbuttoned her pants and slid them down. As she stepped out of her pants I lifted up her shirt and she unhooked her bra. I guided her head to go down on me and got a BBBJ without saying a word. I pulled her up and she kissed me all over my lips, face, neck and chest as she pulled her panties aside and slid me into her. After she got used to the size she really started to rock and roll. She seemed to be really enjoying herself so I just hung on for the ride. It felt like she came a couple of times before I shot my load inside of her and she acted like she enjoyed that even more. After we were done she wanted to cuddle and she got giggly and very playful. She then got up and got a damp cloth and cleaned me up. She got my clothes and helped me get dressed. Don’t you just love that about Asian girls! As I was leaving I asked her about a tip but she spoke almost no English and didn’t understand what I was talking about so I started to leave. But she stopped me and as she looked into my eyes she said something I didn’t understand and made this sign with her hands about the size of a dollar. I said OK and pulled out a 20, she took it and said something else I didn’t understand so I pulled out another 20 and gave it to her and now she was happy and gave me a big hug and a big wet kiss. We walked downstairs hand in hand as she kept saying “You love Lisa”. The other lady was sitting on the couch and got up to introduce herself and as she told me her name was Cindy she gave me a hug and a kiss on the cheek then they both held my hand and walked me to the door. What an unexpected surprise the whole thing was and only 80 bucks. Not only that the next day my back felt great. Now I know I shouldn’t have done it without protection and I ALWAYS do but what the heck now.

By the way, I looked this place up on the Erotic Section and they have several ads there as well. Interesting thing is that it states “This is not full service” I wonder if the boss knows what these girls are up to. You think?

I will be back and it’s close to my house but next time I think I’ll try Cindy.

Mike

Friendly Tiger
06-26-06, 08:04
I'm wondering if there is more than one place in WH?Is the Pope, Catholic? LOL

MPseeker
06-26-06, 13:35
I have posted up for a while as there's nothing going on in the Valley and posting details just seems to result in providers disappearing quickly. All that seems to be availale in Vallet amps these days is overpriced HJs.

Anyway, it's probably time to start checking out some CL posts.

Webcams
06-29-06, 23:24
Hit the spot you recommended, would have never spotted the place from the street, I will PM YOU the story.

ReallyaNiceGuy
06-30-06, 00:32
Hit the spot you recommended, would have never spotted the place from the street, I will PM YOU the story.

Hey Webcams,

Glad you got Lisa. I've called and called and told she is not working tonight. Except the last time so I headed over only to find that she wasn't there so I left. Oh well, I'll keep trying.

Lulu Pussy
07-02-06, 02:08
Finally found a Chinese place off the beaten path way in the northwest. Senior members can pm for the actual spot.

Saw mamasan Susan, a bit older, but I've been getting FS from a lot worse up in Oxnard, so the nearby find is nice.

Asked for something special, she said she has her period but got bbbj. Will go back next week after her Aunt Flo's visit is over.

Lulu Pussy
07-02-06, 02:10
...but all I got there was a handie. Perhaps I should try again.

ReallyaNiceGuy
07-05-06, 02:02
...but all I got there was a handie. Perhaps I should try again.

I gave up on this place for FS. Only one girl doing it and twice I've called and was lied to about her being there.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
07-05-06, 02:05
With the long holiday weekend I decided to check out the neighborhood. I found a total of 10 AMP's, all Chinese and in a nutshell this is what I found/got:

1 - Massage School. I did not get a massage here.
3 - Closed for the holiday. Will try to get to them later
1 - 30 min 40, Young, Short Skirt, got HJ included no extra $
1 - 30 min 40, Older, Jeans, wanted 60 for HJ, Passed
1 - 60 min w/ Table Shower 60, Young, Jeans, asked 100 for HJ, Passed
1 - 60 min w/ Table Shower 60, Older, Pants Uniform, No extras offered
1 - 30 min 40, Young, Short Skirt, got Saran BJ for 60
1 - 30 min 45, Young, Short Skirt, got her nude, 69 and Saran JB for 80

I got the promise of FS on future visits at two places but I bet it will be expensive.

If you want more info or if you have any info let me know.

Mike

Spank Me
07-06-06, 02:47
I've challenged myself for some unknown reason to locate the Lisa in WH. Thought I'd just ask for her when I call. Who? they say. Oh, Lisa. Yes. She Working. hmmm. right. Let's try it. Ok, bypassed my regular for this "Lisa", and got led upstairs. Yay! Things were looking up. She was older, but decent, probably 30's or 40's. She did long strokes down my back and teased my back door, felt nice but not really a massage (yeah, I do want everything!) Then she moved to the side, and really started working and teasing the sensitive areas. OK, I'll go back for that, but I'm on a mission, damit, to find a cowgirl. No such luck this time, just a very experienced and great HJ, she undid her bra so I could feel her up (guess she thought I was taking too long) And yes, I'm still complaining. Saw one other cutie while I was there, seemed younger than C or L. Maybe I get lucky with her next time. One real complaint though, is that they don't make any effort to keep us mongers from seeing each other. If discretion is important to you, I suggest heading to TO for a great HJ.

Tom Log
07-06-06, 22:30
I have been to the place in WH twice. First time saw Cindy and only got HJ and play with and suck tittes. She is 30's ok looking but all business tiped 20. 2nd time called ahead and found Lisa was working got there and had to get past Cindy tell her you want Lisa or you are leaving. Lisa came and got me ok looking late 30's or early 40's and no english. She will start with the long strokes to your ass but then you need to take the lead take her pants and underware off she will let you no problem and then she even got rid of the bra and you can touch any place you want but if you leave it to her all you will get is a HJ. So I got up off the table and moved her to laying on the table and between her legs and went for it she just let's it happen and after you get in her she starts to like it. Then she will give a good massage. I paid 60 for 1 hour and 40 tip I will be back.

crd2
07-07-06, 23:12
I've mongered for a long time and never had an encounter like this. I called a posting from CL (asian massage) so I could visit after work. They have 2 locations, so i decided to go the location closest to my work.

The girl who answered gave me the address. Thinking I was going to a storefront, I figured I had the wrong location since it was an apartment. I called the number and girl said you have right place; a girl will be down in a minute.

Went into the apartment and was offered a shower which i didnt take. After I got undressed (her too) she asked for the money. A good way to make sure I wasn't a cop. The ad says140, but told offered her 120 and she smiled and seemed surprised it was that much.

Started with bbbj, then covered fs. face 6, body a 9. Here's where it get strange. After we were done and dressed she led me to the living room and had me sit on the couch and watch tv with her. Chinese tv but didn't really matter. I commented that I hadn't eaten lunch yet, so she heated up some chicken and rice, peeled me an orange and gave me a soda.

I was there for over 2 hours of pure GFE. Then all of a sudden she said I'm tired and wanted to take a nap so I had to go. Just a wierd encounter. She gave me her email address and personal number. A must to go back to.

Vlad De Sade
07-08-06, 01:29
Bro,

Dont F**k that up... She sounds too good to be true!!!

Late, V da Sadist

Maloso1
07-11-06, 19:34
Hey Webcams,

Glad you got Lisa. I've called and called and told she is not working tonight. Except the last time so I headed over only to find that she wasn't there so I left. Oh well, I'll keep trying.

Checked out this place...called ahead of time and asked for Lisa and said she was working, got there was escorted to the room and started with the massage, so-so, flipped over and she oiled up the jimmy and started to stroke to completion, but would not go any further except for some tittie sucking which I manged to get to.

Right before I left I gave her $30 and she asked for $40, I said next time.
Since I'd never been there before I didn't know if it was Lisa and didn't want to pass off as if it had been my first time there so on my way out I asked another girl who my girl was and she said Mimi...wasn't too happy, Oh well she only got $30.

Malosos

FedEx
07-11-06, 20:58
You got what they call "the old bait & switch" - I wish I could say I have never been a victim of that, but I can't... ;-)

When a popular girl stops working at an AMP, the MMS will always tell the caller that she is still working there today, just to lure you to come in. You get there, all horny, and guess what? "I'm sorry, she is not available now, she felt sick and went home, the dog ate her homework, etc., etc."
Then she'll offer you whoever available or a "new girl". You are already there, thinking with your little head - you are not going to decline. For MMS, it's mission accomplished.

I consider myself a veteran monger with 17 years of hobbying in the US and a bit abroad. The bait & switch happened to me at my favorite SGV AMP (been there at least 10 times) just 2 weeks ago - it happens all the time in this business.

Called for my ATF and the MMS (who is a working gal, too and I did her 3 - 4 times) tells me, yeah, your ATF is here. I drive doen 45 minutes from the SFV to get there and what does the MMS tells me upon arrival? Oh, she left... Yeah, right.
Offered me a new girl - which was cute but didn't offer DFK - so I banged the older MMS and was in/out in 15 -20 minutes. I was pissed: 1.5 hour of driving for so little fun after being lied to.

But that's part of the business. A week later my ATF was there and I was in heaven again...

You will have ups and downs, but the ups are worth it and keep you smiling...


Checked out this place...called ahead of time and asked for Lisa and said she was working, got there was escorted to the room and started with the massage, so-so, flipped over and she oiled up the jimmy and started to stroke to completion, but would not go any further except for some tittie sucking which I manged to get to.

Right before I left I gave her $30 and she asked for $40, I said next time.
Since I'd never been there before I didn't know if it was Lisa and didn't want to pass off as if it had been my first time there so on my way out I asked another girl who my girl was and she said Mimi...wasn't too happy, Oh well she only got $30.

Malosos

Mose
07-13-06, 00:47
First time at this location, girl was a 7 who only offered a hand job, nice nipples and that was about it. AMP is just too cautious.

Maloso1
07-13-06, 19:22
You got what they call "the old bait & switch" - I wish I could say I have never been a victim of that, but I can't... ;-)

When a popular girl stops working at an AMP, the MMS will always tell the caller that she is still working there today, just to lure you to come in. You get there, all horny, and guess what? "I'm sorry, she is not available now, she felt sick and went home, the dog ate her homework, etc., etc."
Then she'll offer you whoever available or a "new girl". You are already there, thinking with your little head - you are not going to decline. For MMS, it's mission accomplished.

I consider myself a veteran monger with 17 years of hobbying in the US and a bit abroad. The bait & switch happened to me at my favorite SGV AMP (been there at least 10 times) just 2 weeks ago - it happens all the time in this business.

Called for my ATF and the MMS (who is a working gal, too and I did her 3 - 4 times) tells me, yeah, your ATF is here. I drive doen 45 minutes from the SFV to get there and what does the MMS tells me upon arrival? Oh, she left... Yeah, right.
Offered me a new girl - which was cute but didn't offer DFK - so I banged the older MMS and was in/out in 15 -20 minutes. I was pissed: 1.5 hour of driving for so little fun after being lied to.

But that's part of the business. A week later my ATF was there and I was in heaven again...

You will have ups and downs, but the ups are worth it and keep you smiling...

You live, you learn...btw cruising down Reseda Blvd. around 2 PM I spotted a BSW & W/LSW pulled over for the W/LSW but she wouldn't come over, must be my good LE looks!

Maloso

Webcams
07-14-06, 13:43
You live, you learn...btw cruising down Reseda Blvd. around 2 PM I spotted a BSW & W/LSW pulled over for the W/LSW but she wouldn't come over, must be my good LE looks!
MalosoI am assuming this is between ? ? I would guess Saticoy to Sherman Way maybe? I hate when girls think your either LE or a Pimp, No
ya dumb 8itch, I just wanna pump you!

Cole Slaw
07-14-06, 15:21
Howdy all. Went to a amp in wh a few days ago. Older asian lady greeted me. Place is a bit old but she was really nice. Offered a hj after the turn but I declined cause I wanted fs. She was nice about it and just continued the massage. Massage is good but no fs. .40 at door and I tipped her another .40 despite the fact that I didnt' get hj. pm me if you want info.

Cole Slaw

Friendly Tiger
07-15-06, 10:36
...located on Moorpark Road. :(

ReallyaNiceGuy
07-16-06, 13:50
I got Lisa last Tuesday evening. I was in the area and decided to stop in and I didn't even call first. The door was open a little and just walked in and there was Lisa.
Same routine as before. Got 30 minutes for 40, FS covered this time but she smelled nice down there and gave her 40 tip. She seemed happy with it.

Mike




Checked out this place...called ahead of time and asked for Lisa and said she was working, got there was escorted to the room and started with the massage, so-so, flipped over and she oiled up the jimmy and started to stroke to completion, but would not go any further except for some tittie sucking which I manged to get to.

Right before I left I gave her $30 and she asked for $40, I said next time.
Since I'd never been there before I didn't know if it was Lisa and didn't want to pass off as if it had been my first time there so on my way out I asked another girl who my girl was and she said Mimi...wasn't too happy, Oh well she only got $30.

Malosos

ReallyaNiceGuy
07-16-06, 13:57
The one on La Baya is closed too.

Mike



...located on Moorpark Road. :(

ReallyaNiceGuy
07-16-06, 23:01
I went there today. It took several calls but I got in and when I did I was greated by Jenny, 23 years old, from Korea, good English and very nice. She said she was in the US for 3 months and was going to go to school and would be going home in a year.

Got everything and I mean everything for 160.

Mike

Vlad De Sade
07-17-06, 01:49
Maloso & Webcams,

My brothers are these pro's, teens, students or just regular girls walking for fun $$$?

I am just curious because I do see alot of fly girls on all parts of Reseda. From way south, past victory towards Ventura, and then all the way north towards CSUN between Sherman way up to Plummer. Has anyone banged a sw on the Reseda stroll yet this summer? I have not hooked up here in more than 2 years myself. Thanks boys.

Remember newbies post everything about sw's & nothing about Amp's. This is the way to keep our threads safe. Sw's are transient & LE has trouble stopping them on the random strolls they hit. However, all Amp's are vulnerable to attack because they are not mobile. So dont give the man anymore intel than needed. And always have fun while your mongering!

Laters, V da Sadist

Maloso1
07-17-06, 20:12
I am assuming this is between ? ? I would guess Saticoy to Sherman Way maybe? I hate when girls think your either LE or a Pimp, No
ya dumb 8itch, I just wanna pump you!

Yup...that area!

Maloso

Maloso1
07-17-06, 20:20
Maloso & Webcams,

My brothers are these pro's, teens, students or just regular girls walking for fun $$$?

I am just curious because I do see alot of fly girls on all parts of Reseda. From way south, past victory towards Ventura, and then all the way north towards CSUN between Sherman way up to Plummer. Has anyone banged a sw on the Reseda stroll yet this summer? I have not hooked up here in more than 2 years myself. Thanks boys.

Remember newbies post everything about sw's & nothing about Amp's. This is the way to keep our threads safe. Sw's are transient & LE has trouble stopping them on the random strolls they hit. However, all Amp's are vulnerable to attack because they are not mobile. So dont give the man anymore intel than needed. And always have fun while your mongering!

Laters, V da Sadist

Hooked up last summer with a BSW just across from the post office...don't really hit the Reseda stroll as much as SB, but when I have the action is usually north or east (which ever way you look at it) of Sherman way, the LSW I saw the other day was in the residential part north/east of Saticoy and the BSW by the Pep Boys.
They can be everywhere, just gotta look.

Maloso

Vlad De Sade
07-17-06, 20:30
Bro,

Thanks. I thought so. I will stay alert. I wish some hot white girls from CSUN would trick for $$$. That would be sweeeeet.

Hey PM me the thin latina off of SB's contact info if ya still got it... She sounds tight!

Peace, V da Sadist

Friendly Tiger
07-20-06, 09:50
One suspect arrested in brothel crackdown
By Zeke Barlow, zbarlow@VenturaCountyStar.com
July 20, 2006

Scattered around Thousand Oaks are a handful of businesses that look legit enough.

Stickers on the windows advertise how Visa, MasterCard and Discover are accepted. Doctors, hair designers and restaurateurs hang shingles right next door. The businesses even advertise in the local newspaper.

But what goes on inside these businesses is anything but legal, said Ventura County Sheriff's Department Sgt. Mike De Los Santos.

Three massage parlors in Thousand Oaks and one Camarillo home were searched Wednesday as part of a crackdown on parlors suspected of doubling as brothels.

Though officials are not sure if all the suspected brothels are connected, the roughly 35 "massage technicians" who worked at the various businesses often moved among locations, De Los Santos said.

Though only one arrest was made, others could come, De Los Santos said.

"It's a large operation," he said, standing outside one of the massage parlors on Thousand Oaks Boulevard, just beside a dentist's office. "It shows that if it's here, it's everywhere."

The Sheriff's Department has been getting complaints about the parlors for years and started an investigation six months ago, De Los Santos said. Another parlor in Westlake Village was raided last month.

On Monday, deputies searched the Oriental Health Center at 1459 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Suite A, and arrested owner Gui Yun Wang, 42, of Camarillo, on suspicion of conspiracy to commit prostitution and keeping a house of ill fame.

Also searched was New Life Acupuncture at 253 Lombard St., Suite B, and HWA Rong Acupuncture Acupressure at 951 S. Westlake Blvd., Suite 200. Another business that has since moved was searched, as well as Wang's Camarillo home.

The masseurs will be cited if they do not have massage licenses. No clients were arrested over the course of the investigation.

Though no Ventura County sheriff's deputies did any undercover work, an outside agency did do some at the Westlake Village location, De Los Santos said. He declined to say what agency that was. Other information came from "Johns" coming out of the businesses, he said.

In addition to complaints, De Los Santos said, the whereabouts of the parlors were as easy to find as picking up the Ventura County Star. Advertisements in the classified section routinely boast such things as "new girls" and "free table showers." The VC Reporter also advertises such services.

Star Publisher Tim Gallagher said the paper accepts advertisements from businesses with a legal license, but at times, the language of the advertisements has to be toned down. If the business is deemed illegal, the advertisements are pulled, he said.

"If we are battling for the First Amendment, and it's a legal business, we'll accept their ads," Gallagher said.

De Los Santos said the illegitimate businesses take away from the bona fide masseurs trying to make a living. More scrutiny will be given to masseurs and business when they apply for licenses, he said.

Though the searches were limited to Thousand Oaks, such places exist all around the county, he said.

At the parlors raided on Monday, the procedure would usually entail a client asking for a massage and paying about $60 for it, De Los Santos said. The client would then initiate something more — sometimes including full intercourse — and give a large tip on top of the massage rate.

This came as little surprise to the business owners around the parlors.

"There was a lot of traffic, a lot more than you'd see for an acupuncturist," said Jay Perry, manager of Johnny P's A Place for Ribs, which is just below HWA Rong Acupuncture Acupressure. He'd see as many as 20 men, often middle-aged and seemingly middle to upper class, go into the business each day, he said.

De Los Santos said the quality of the parlors depended on their location. Some were small and quaint, others had six rooms and lavish decorations.

"That place," he said, referring to the one in Westlake Village, "looked like a five-star hotel."

Larks Tongue
07-20-06, 19:13
One suspect arrested in brothel crackdown
By Zeke Barlow, zbarlow@VenturaCountyStar.com
July 20, 2006

Scattered around Thousand Oaks are a handful of businesses that look legit enough.

Stickers on the windows advertise how Visa, MasterCard and Discover are accepted. Doctors, hair designers and restaurateurs hang shingles right next door. The businesses even advertise in the local newspaper.

But what goes on inside these businesses is anything but legal, said Ventura County Sheriff's Department Sgt. Mike De Los Santos.

Three massage parlors in Thousand Oaks and one Camarillo home were searched Wednesday as part of a crackdown on parlors suspected of doubling as brothels.

Though officials are not sure if all the suspected brothels are connected, the roughly 35 "massage technicians" who worked at the various businesses often moved among locations, De Los Santos said.

Though only one arrest was made, others could come, De Los Santos said.

"It's a large operation," he said, standing outside one of the massage parlors on Thousand Oaks Boulevard, just beside a dentist's office. "It shows that if it's here, it's everywhere."

The Sheriff's Department has been getting complaints about the parlors for years and started an investigation six months ago, De Los Santos said. Another parlor in Westlake Village was raided last month.

On Monday, deputies searched the Oriental Health Center at 1459 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Suite A, and arrested owner Gui Yun Wang, 42, of Camarillo, on suspicion of conspiracy to commit prostitution and keeping a house of ill fame.

Also searched was New Life Acupuncture at 253 Lombard St., Suite B, and HWA Rong Acupuncture Acupressure at 951 S. Westlake Blvd., Suite 200. Another business that has since moved was searched, as well as Wang's Camarillo home.

The masseurs will be cited if they do not have massage licenses. No clients were arrested over the course of the investigation.

Though no Ventura County sheriff's deputies did any undercover work, an outside agency did do some at the Westlake Village location, De Los Santos said. He declined to say what agency that was. Other information came from "Johns" coming out of the businesses, he said.

In addition to complaints, De Los Santos said, the whereabouts of the parlors were as easy to find as picking up the Ventura County Star. Advertisements in the classified section routinely boast such things as "new girls" and "free table showers." The VC Reporter also advertises such services.

Star Publisher Tim Gallagher said the paper accepts advertisements from businesses with a legal license, but at times, the language of the advertisements has to be toned down. If the business is deemed illegal, the advertisements are pulled, he said.

"If we are battling for the First Amendment, and it's a legal business, we'll accept their ads," Gallagher said.

De Los Santos said the illegitimate businesses take away from the bona fide masseurs trying to make a living. More scrutiny will be given to masseurs and business when they apply for licenses, he said.

Though the searches were limited to Thousand Oaks, such places exist all around the county, he said.

At the parlors raided on Monday, the procedure would usually entail a client asking for a massage and paying about $60 for it, De Los Santos said. The client would then initiate something more — sometimes including full intercourse — and give a large tip on top of the massage rate.

This came as little surprise to the business owners around the parlors.

"There was a lot of traffic, a lot more than you'd see for an acupuncturist," said Jay Perry, manager of Johnny P's A Place for Ribs, which is just below HWA Rong Acupuncture Acupressure. He'd see as many as 20 men, often middle-aged and seemingly middle to upper class, go into the business each day, he said.

De Los Santos said the quality of the parlors depended on their location. Some were small and quaint, others had six rooms and lavish decorations.

"That place," he said, referring to the one in Westlake Village, "looked like a five-star hotel."


When is American going to wise and legalize this. License the girls,screen them weekly with a doctor and tax it. I don't see a crime problem in the counties of Nevada where it is legal. This makes me sad.

Vlad De Sade
07-20-06, 22:03
Why do people care about what we do inside an Amp? I will never get it...

I dont get pissed off when all these idiots go into BevMo & buy liquor. (Just smoke da Kine people). I know they are going to drive drunk, beat their wives & kids, destroy their health and generally be stupid. Honestly, its not my business unless I see it on the road, in my neighborhood, or in my immediate family. Otherwise, I dont care WTF YOU do to yourself in the privacy of your own home.

Victimless crime laws make me sick to my stomach. As a staunch Libertarian, now in my mid 30's, I am done w/both corrupt political parties. I hope I live long enough to see the day when I can buy a pack of Indica lights at Ralphs, then go get F**cked at the local neighborhood massage parlor legally and then finally go shoot my unregistered machine gun till I cant pull the trigger anymore. Ha, ha, ha!!!

Oh yeah, I got to MOVE TO NEVADA, a free state that still respects my individual right to pursue life, liberty & happiness!

Peace, V da Sadist

FedEx
07-20-06, 22:10
What do you expect? You live in the most puritan country in the western world, where a benefit by bikini-clad Hooter Girls is cancelled because it dimmed immoral. So you want legalized prostitution? Drive to TJ... That's the closest-to-the-USA organized prostitution you will ever find, even though that even there it's not legalized, either. They get the LE protection in the "Zona Norte" (North Zone) or as it is also called the "Zona Roja" (Red Zone), but will chase down working girls everywhere outside that area (like on the main drag of Avenida Revolucion, where most uninformed mongers look for fun - I did so, too...).




When is American going to wise and legalize this. License the girls,screen them weekly with a doctor and tax it. I don't see a crime problem in the counties of Nevada where it is legal. This makes me sad.

Webcams
07-20-06, 22:40
Why do people care about what we do inside an Amp? I will never get it... I couldn't agree more, Might I add, Chronic is some serious shit, a few hit's of some orange feathered shit, and it is good Webcams said.
That out of the way, I did want to point out that I could care less if anyone fucks chickens or donkeys in the privacy of there own home, but the religious wackos are overtaking society with there bullshit, if you don't like naked women your a fag! Period. If you belive in imaginary creatures like say unicorns or aliens or God then you need mental help, how can anyone with a straight face say they Don't belive in aliens but they belive in God, Where did the imaginary friend in the sky line get drawn ? Who the fuck cares? Why the fuck are churches Tax Exempt? Why is the catholic church not charged with rackettering or conspiracy on a federal level? why the Fuck does homeland Security not take away the illegal aliens on my block? But they shut down every fuckin amp from here to china? When the fuck did abortion become anyone elses business but the woman who got knocked up? Why is stem cell research getting vetoed? I am taking bet's on when the republican party orders all women to wear burkas! Fuck man people look at what were becoming we are becoming the taliban, please don't buy the Hype about the Taliban, they are not Al-Qaeda, they are religious wacko hard liners just like the FCC and the republican party. They started small and look at what they became. Now I know why people move to Montana, Me shit I like the Pussy way to much to leave the big city. Rant Over



Fuck this place
It's Bullshit
I'm Outta here

Friendly Tiger
07-22-06, 09:34
More details about the bads news...

Nine arrested after six-month prostitution investigation
BY ERIC LEACH, Staff Writer, Daily News, 7/21/06

THOUSAND OAKS - Nine women were arrested and six massage parlors closed in a crackdown on prostitution following a six-month investigation, authorities said Thursday.
And more arrests are expected in the case being investigated by the Thousand Oaks police and Ventura County sheriff's departments and the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency.

The accusations include pandering, immigration violations and misdemeanor massage license violations.

Although the standard fee for a massage was $40 to $60, some men paid separate fees - referred to as "tips" - for sexual services, investigators said.

"The prostitutes will often receive this payment in the form of a 'tip' from their customers after the sexual act in an attempt to avoid the elements of prostitution," sheriff's Sgt. Mike De Los Santos said.

He said it was important to crack down on such illegal sex businesses because they typically lead to more vice-related crime.

"If you have five of them, you will end up getting 10 of them," he said.

Some of those arrested were Chinese nationals living illegally in the United States.

"People who are lured to this country for illicit purposes are often treated like a commodity, making them vulnerable to all kinds of exploitation," said ICE Agent David Wales.

"ICE is committed to working with its local law enforcement partners to dismantle criminal enterprises like this one that threaten not only the welfare of those involved, but also the quality of life in our communities," he said.

The arrests were made when search warrants were served June 14 and Wednesday, and the people taken into custody were from various parts of Southern California, including Granada Hills, Moorpark, Camarillo, Santa Paula, Rosemead, Pasadena and Alhambra. They include:

Yan Jun Hu, 39, of Granada Hills, the owner of the Asian Wellness Center, 166 N. Moorpark Road, who was arrested on suspicion of pandering.

Shuying Qi, 43, of Moorpark, the owner of Chinese Acupuncture Center, 1337 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., and Reflexology Plus, 5565 Lindero Canyon Road, on suspicion of pandering.

Gui Yun Yang, 42, of Camarillo, the owner of the Oriental Health Center, 1459 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., on suspicion of conspiracy to commit prostitution and keeping a house of prostitution.

Two misdemeanor arrests were also made at the HWA Rong Chinese Medical Clinic at 951 S. Westlake Blvd. Another arrest on suspicion of failing to obtain a license was made in connection with the former Asian Health Center Spa on Thousand Oaks Boulevard that recently closed.

ReallyaNiceGuy
07-27-06, 22:43
I had a very pleasant here this afternoon. Chinese lady named CeCe, 35 years old, from Shanghai, in the US 1 year, almost no English. She was really sweet, very friendly and willing when I got the camera out. I took about 20 total and she was fascinated with the whole thing. I got her doing all kinds of things to and with me. A little BBBJ and BBFS just for the photos.

In addition she gave great service too. Kissing, CBJ, 69, several positions.

Mike

True Hobbiest
07-28-06, 05:28
Hey "RNG",

Where are those other pics......she is a cutie.

Play safe and stay safe,
TH

PsyberZombie
07-28-06, 15:12
I had a very pleasant here this afternoon. Chinese lady named CeCe, 35 years old, from Shanghai, in the US 1 year, almost no English....



I just LO♥E all these AMP chicks who go by the name CeCe

CeCe — pronounced Say·Say — is Mandarin Chinese for Thank You !!

ReallyaNiceGuy
07-28-06, 16:08
Hey True and the rest of you that have asked,

Do you really want me to post XXX photos of my big c**k going in her mouth and pu**y?

Mike



Hey "RNG",

Where are those other pics......she is a cutie.

Play safe and stay safe,
TH

ReallyaNiceGuy
07-28-06, 20:33
Here is CeCe naked.

Enjoy



Hey True and the rest of you that have asked,

Do you really want me to post XXX photos of my big c**k going in her mouth and pu**y?

Mike

Friendly Tiger
07-28-06, 21:42
Nice pics, Mike. THANKS!!!! :)

Webcams
07-29-06, 11:46
Why don't these girls ever seem to shave there snatch? Most asians have a huge mound down there I don't think it's hot. but beggars can't be choosers.

Still confused as to why we can't find a good Latina incall place.

BTW: Great pics Mike Thanks at least someone is getting some action.

ReallyaNiceGuy
07-29-06, 18:58
I fell asleep on the couch again last night and woke up horny at about 9 PM and called to see if they were still open and they were. I didn't even ask if Lisa was working. Well guess what, she was.
When I walked in I was told "Lisa working wait a minute" and before I could say anything Lisa walked in and we were on our way upstairs.
Usual routine, I had her shirt up and pants down in short order but when I went to pull her underwear down she stopped me. She pulled them down a little telling me it was that time of the month, she showed me the pad, blood and all. I tried to tell her it didn't matter to me but she said no, it's dirty.
Still had a nice time with her and got a nice HJ with prostate play.
20 tip, she was happy.

Mike

FedEx
07-29-06, 20:32
Webcams.

"To each, his own".

I grew up in the 70's, when all erotica and real women had lots of hair down there and also had no sun tan in the private areas. There are not many things that turn me on like a young Asian, unshaved and untanned in her private areas... But that's me.

When I daty Asians, I found out that the K-girls seem to always smell nice, clean and fresh, no matter how much hair they have.

BTW, in Europe, everyone is shaved - that's the norm.

Again, "To each, his own"...

My 2 cents only...

Fedex


Why don't these girls ever seem to shave there snatch? Most asians have a huge mound down there I don't think it's hot. but beggars can't be choosers.

Still confused as to why we can't find a good Latina incall place.

BTW: Great pics Mike Thanks at least someone is getting some action.

Vlad De Sade
07-29-06, 21:12
Brothers,

I shave em if they aren't already. If it ain't bald I dont get hard!!! I like em YOUNG looking. Thats just me. I hear in Japan I'd be fascinated by all the bald twats...

Shit, I have shaved more than one girl at an Amp... Topanga comes to mind (anybody remember Cherry summer '04...) We had built a "relationship" over time. Or I paid enough that she finally let me bring my "shave kit" and have some fun! After that I think playing w/my bag of toys just came naturally for us. Damn, she was a KEEPER. I will never forget the fun I had playing w/her. She was a blast.

Peace, V da Sadist

Webcams
07-29-06, 23:28
After thinking about it I do like them both ways, it's just when it's an amp girl, if it's shaved you can inspect easier.

I don't think there is a piece of ass I don't like or would like to try.

Kristara Barrington comes to mind as my first asian fantasy...

ReallyaNiceGuy
07-30-06, 01:31
So I was thinking about Webcams said, "... why can't we find a good Latina incall place." and I thought I'd try something. Well it may not be good place, i.e., it felt like an alley room in TJ, dark and dingy with mattress on the floor and everything, but it was FS with a young Latina that spoke almost no English.

I called the place and asked if she spoke English, she said a little. She told me "No massage, aromatherapy only", I told her that was fine and got the address. This place is off the beaten path in a building behind another building. Walked in and up to the little window and told the lady my name and she again told me aromatherapy only. I told her OK and she asked 40 half or 60 hour. I took the half and she let me in the back and led me to a room and said the girl would be there in about 10 minutes. I stripped and laid on the mattress and waited. In about 5 minutes the girl came in. I was laying on my stomach and she snapped at me no massage and told me to turn over. I'm not encouraged at this point but not giving up just yet.

She sets on the edge on the mattress and starts putting that stuff in front of my nose and I start to rub her leg and thigh with no problems. She said something about the aromas in broken English and Spanish but I didn't understand a word and she said she would be right back and got up and left. At this point I'm thinking about leaving but before I can she comes back in and starts the aroma again. She seems like she is a better mood and asks if I'm cold as she touches my chest with her cold hand and I jump and she starts to laugh. I take her hand and rub it all over my chest and she goes along so I let go and she moves her hand down to my cock and balls. This is looking good. She motion if I wanted a HJ and I said yes, she said 40 and I said OK. I ask about, and touch her mouth, she said 60 and I said OK. I ask about, and touch her pussy, she said 100 and I said OK. She said OK and she would be right back.

When she came back she had the kit with her. She took off her pants, shirt and bra and sat down next to me and started jacking me, when I was hard she put the condom on and started the BJ. After a nice long one she stood, removed her underwear, stepped up on the mattress above me and sat down on me taking it all the way in then she went to town. I didn't cum right away and she got off, stood me up, then she bent over and put me in her and I pounded her hard as she held on to the wall. I wasn't done yet so she turned around, put one foot up on the chair with me facing her I was in her again. When I didn't cum she sat me down on the edge of the mattress as she squatted down on me and she was bound and determined to get me off this time. She sure did.

Her name was Ruby, from Guatemala, lives in LA, it was dark in the place so I couldn't really see her face clear but kind of cute and with that makeup I couldn't tell for sure but I think she was maybe 25 to 30, maybe 5'6" and around 130, nice shape, nice ass, small breast. Overall nice package. And after the shaky start she really warmed up and was a lot of fun.

She never asked for the money and I gave it to her after we were dressed. When I gave her an extra 20 she gave me a big hug and a kiss on the lips.

I'll be back. Maybe tomorrow.

Sorry, no photos. Yet.

Mike

Thrilla59
07-30-06, 06:29
is Aromatherapy? please school me, is there any touching at all?

Friendly Tiger
07-30-06, 10:27
is Aromatherapy? please school me, is there any touching at all?I'll let you Google the legitimate form of AT. "Our" form of AT is just as Mike described. The pretense is that you come in to experience and enjoy several different fragrances. Sort of a smelly meditation session. LOL

Legitimate aromatherapy may be combined with massage. You should try one of the aromatherapy places advertised in LAXpress or LAWeekly to best answer your own question. ;)

Webcams
07-30-06, 12:11
is Aromatherapy? please school me, is there any touching at all?
Don't confuse Legit places with the jack shacks though.
Aromatherapy is another form of Holistic Medicine, It uses fragrance or scents to soothe and heal the body. Think Incense Without the Smoke.

Vlad De Sade
07-30-06, 13:01
Brother,

Seriously, don't bother w/the local latina aroma places in the valley. At this point they are still a scam. I can count on one hand the success I have had at these places. I last tried 4 places in May. All 4 were a scam. No massage, no sex, no nothing! I'm talking I'm high, naked and horny w/cash in hand and I still got refused service. I believe these places are scared to death of LE. And if your not latin its even harder to break into the scene. Just stick w/Kamps. Oh yeah, those are all gone... Good luck & be safe Thrilla.

Peace, V da Sadist

Thrilla59
07-30-06, 13:57
but even if the fear of the vice gustapo tatics have scared the living s@@t out of the owners of pleasure houses in the sfv. maybe if one is to adapt to the situation by investing time + money + frequency of visits to one establishment that would ultimately = success in scoreing some poohnanny?
with the exceptions of the hit that reallyaniceguy made(hey good post man) their are few options available. the existing onces are only cataring to there own ethnic groups and for good reasons the trade off is for greater security ver smaller profit margins. and the leg work to find these places is a task in itself in which i do not find very appealing and my dollars are tight and cannot be wasted on bs ie wiff or wack places(thanks webcams). or is it worth it to throw money to find these places? i want to exprience that part of the hobby because i missed the hey days when the sfv was a pussy haven. and the crackdown was in full swing and unrelenting when i found this board in early 05. the very first thing that i learned back then was safety first and i missed my chance i wanted to absorb as much knowledge about this hobby so i lurked and waited to damned late. did a chinese chick in an apt in lancaster a few months ago and blew $160 what a waste! but then there is always oxnard right fedex? and webcams, jack shops? lmfao T59

Vlad De Sade
07-30-06, 20:13
Brother,

YOU have to do the work! For a number of reasons.

First, so that YOU can say YOU broke your bones the old school way. Thru trial & error. Wasting $$$ on gas (whether searching tracks for sw's or hitting Amps in the hopes of finding a keeper) is part of our hobby. Shit, I waste gas chasing non pros around the SFV just for FUN!

Second, YOU need combat experience so YOU can kick ass at our hobby... Practice makes perfect. After YOU have shelled out a couple of grand hunting and slaying YOU will feel more like a true MONGER.

Third, nobody will help someone who does not help themselves. YOU need to bring something to the table other than an old Chinese rip off in freaking Lancaster!

Fourth, hunting and failing is part of the game. And it makes victory taste so much sweeter.

Fifth, YOU need to be robbed & ruined (like us all) a few more times IMHO. Street smarts, amp smarts, and incall smarts only come to those who play the game regularly.

Sixth, be patient. YOU picked a terrible time to become a monger in the SFV. LE scares the s**t out of us all. For various reasons that I am sure YOU can ascertain w/out me spelling it out!

Seventh, I am sure YOU will do allright w/some practice, practice, practice. So go get the new issue of LA Weekly. It is off the hook w/KAMP fun all over LA county. Finally, a turn around for us mongers in LA. And Thrilla if YOU get laid and choose to post follow RNG's lead and be DISCREET. KEEP IT OFF THE RADAR. THIS MEANS ONLY PM TRUSTED MEMBERS W/YOUR FINDS. Period!!!

And finally, jumping in is addictive so just go for it man!

Peace, V da Sadist

RNG thanks again. Damn, Sundays are relaxed over there...

Thrilla59
07-30-06, 21:27
hey word up VDS, you summed it all up for me what this game is all about thanks for sharing your wisdom. T59

ReallyaNiceGuy
07-31-06, 00:55
I called the lady at the only place left out here tonight, she said she was not working but her friend was and told me to go on over so I did.

Greeted by a friendly lady, 35 to 40, 5'5" so-so shape, Chinese, wearing short jean shorts and a lose shirt, and a named Tina. Table shower, a little back rub then she climbed onto the table between my legs, applied lotion to my ass and massaged it real nice. But she kept asking if I was going to give her a good tip. On the flip she put the lotion on and started jerking and asking about a tip, she said she wanted 100 for HJ and I could touch her, 150 for BJ and she said no sex but hinted that if the money was right she would. I didn't ask.

She kept jacking me while we talked about the tip, I got her shorts down, bra unhooked and sucked on her tits while I tried to get her down to 100 for a BJ but she would not budge. Then someone came in and she had to go. While she was gone I cleaned up and got dressed. When she came back I told it was OK and I gave her 40 bucks, she wanted more but I didn't give it to her.

She asked me to see her again and gave me her cell number, she said she was starting at a place in Studio City on Monday and wanted me to come there, it's on Ventura Blvd. The note said her name was Rose and she asked me not to say anything to the people at this place.

Maybe it's the high rent area or the crack downs but these ladies want
to much to do anything. That's how it feels to me today in this
neighborhood.

Mike

Friendly Tiger
07-31-06, 10:06
Thanks for the report, RNG.

Now at least one or two other CMP's have reopened in this area. :)

FedEx
08-01-06, 00:28
Oh, Geez!

I have jacked off to Kristara Barrington and May Lin so many times, I should have been blind by now... LOL


After thinking about it I do like them both ways, it's just when it's an amp girl, if it's shaved you can inspect easier.

I don't think there is a piece of ass I don't like or would like to try.

Kristara Barrington comes to mind as my first asian fantasy...

FedEx
08-01-06, 00:36
Long Live Oxnard and the SGV!!! The last places in So. Cal where you can get FS for the prices of the SFV from 3 - 4 years ago.


but even if the fear of the vice gustapo tatics have scared the living s@@t out of the owners of pleasure houses in the sfv. maybe if one is to adapt to the situation by investing time + money + frequency of visits to one establishment that would ultimately = success in scoreing some poohnanny?
with the exceptions of the hit that reallyaniceguy made(hey good post man) their are few options available. the existing onces are only cataring to there own ethnic groups and for good reasons the trade off is for greater security ver smaller profit margins. and the leg work to find these places is a task in itself in which i do not find very appealing and my dollars are tight and cannot be wasted on bs ie wiff or wack places(thanks webcams). or is it worth it to throw money to find these places? i want to exprience that part of the hobby because i missed the hey days when the sfv was a pussy haven. and the crackdown was in full swing and unrelenting when i found this board in early 05. the very first thing that i learned back then was safety first and i missed my chance i wanted to absorb as much knowledge about this hobby so i lurked and waited to damned late. did a chinese chick in an apt in lancaster a few months ago and blew $160 what a waste! but then there is always oxnard right fedex? and webcams, jack shops? lmfao T59

ReallyaNiceGuy
08-03-06, 00:32
I went to this new place in Tarzana. I had the feeling it was run by the Wooklake folks. But at least you can get something here. Well you can if you want a 60 HJ or 80 CBJ or 200 FS from a 40 plus lady. I did not take her up on her offers. It's off my list.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
08-03-06, 23:37
I had some business in the valley today and made another visit to this place. I called first to see if Ruby was working, she wasn't but was told she had two other girls there today. I told her I'd been there last weekend and saw Ruby and had a really nice time. I asked if these girls gave great service like Ruby and she said yes, you will be very happy so I said OK, I'm coming over now.

At the little window I told her my name and that I just called asking about Ruby and asked if she remembered me, she looked for a minute and said she did. I paid the 40 for 30 minutes, she took me to a room and said the girl will be right in. I got undressed and sat on the edge of the mattress and waited and few minutes.

This time it went great right from the start, none of that Aromatherapy crap, she sat down next to me and started rubbing me all over my chest, legs and privates. She was wearing a real short jean skirt and a halter top so access was easy and soon I had my hand in her pants and tits in my mouth. She asked if I wanted a HJ, I nodded and pointed to her mouth, she smiled and then I pointed to down below, she smiled again and said 100, I said sure. She straitened herself out and said she would be right back. She wasn't gone, had the kit with her, took off her skirt, top and bra then sat down with her ass in my face while she did the HJ to get me hard, put the cover on and went to work. Very very nice, I think she liked doing it. I pulled her off, she removed her thong and got on top. No lube, no nothing, she was wet. She was all over the place, up and down, forward and back, round and around and down deep. After a while I tried to get her to stand and bend over but she wouldn't, but she did doggie and I hit her hard and finished. I couldn't believe it, when we were done she wanted to cuddle and laid down next to me with her leg over me and her head on my chest. It was nice and you win points too. She cleaned me up and left to dispose of the stuff.

Her name was Janet, from Guatemala, lives in LA, turns out the whole bunch of them are from Guatemala. Again, it was dark so it was hard to tell, but I'd guess she was 25 or so, maybe 5'5", over weight, plump but not fat, great tits and a big ass to hold onto. Overall a real nice, sweet girl.

On the way out the boss lady was getting ready to carry out the trash so I offered to help. We had a nice chat and I made sure to thank her for having such nice girls and great service. Each girl works only two days a week. Janet, Wednesday and Thursday. Ruby, Friday and Saturday. I guess there are at least four more girls to try out.

Mike

Luv Swallowers
08-03-06, 23:44
This is a honey I met by chance lurking in the SFV a couple months back. This was a lcuky day you could say. I ended up Fucking the living shit out of this girl spanked her ass pulled her hair and made her swallow every drop. What a hottie.

StikkyOne
08-04-06, 03:13
well, my friend had his day in court yesterday related to the sting on lankershim near telfair ave July 6. He was a first offender and got the charge lowered to loitering for. The sentence was 5 days in jail. He was credited for 2 days in jail for his overnight stay at foothill station. He can do 3 days graffitee removal and pay nearly 260 in fines. Others caught in the sting were not as lucky based on priors. I guess one guy got his car impounded after the fact.

To tell you the truth, he was more punished by the guilt and anguish over his fate than the time and money.

His public defender said he could have fought this based on the transcript of the event, but it was to much money for a private lawyer.

I drove the sb route from victory to nordhoff between 9 and 11 this morning. Not one SW to be seen. Only a dozen or so of fine real females to distract me from the car in front of me. Lots of latinas either pregnant or with big milk-filled titties pushing strollers.

Thrilla59
08-05-06, 00:44
damned RNG you have really got it going on my man. not your run of the mill jack shop either. if i were you i will keep a lid on this one. hey great post T59

Webcams
08-05-06, 02:48
He was a first offender and got the charge lowered to loitering for. The sentence was 5 days in jail. He can do 3 days graffitee removal and pay nearly 260 in fines. I guess one guy got his car impounded after the fact.

His public defender said he could have fought this based on the transcript of the event, but it was to much money for a private lawyer.
Sticky bro your post really pissed me off, Not at you, but at what happen.
First, Jail time for a first offense? I have seen people charged with Battery and assault get NO JAIL TIME, in those case's there is a victim, not just the morality of society. Second How can you Take someones car after the fact? That is just bullshit! Third you said he "could" have fought it based on the transcript but can't afford a Lawyer, The public defender IS his lawyer and all they do is work in concert with the District Attorney to get plea bargains because if they had to fight every charge the system would crash, it's very hard to fight something when it's he said she said, but when there is a recording and it gets transcribed showing he said what he said, what exactly is he guilty of? trying to get laid? this just goes to show how fucked up society is, when someone can get caught up in the system and lose, just because everything is stacked against them. I hope your friend get's an easy community service gig, I am sure they won't go as easy on him as they will on Mel Gibson after all they never even charged him with escape. Tell your friend to keep his head up I hope he get's over it tell him to stick to strip joints and buy him a lap dance. Thanks for the update.

Friendly Tiger
08-05-06, 10:04
Luv Swallowers, please don't duplicate your posts. Pick the best folder and let it rest. Thanks. :)

LASmoker
08-05-06, 18:51
So I've been kind of out of the game for a while and since my GF is on her rag thought I'd get away from her bitchiness and hit up a CAMP. Saw a posting on CL for a "Grand Opening" CAMP in Reseda. Seemed like a similar ad as the ones in Woodland Hills and the famed "Lisa". Tried to get an address, but I could barely understand her. FInally found the place and was greeted by "Jenny" from Beijing. I'll just cut to the chase boys. NOT WORTH IT. HJ only. nothing else. I asked Jenny if the other girl did more things. She said no. Crappy massage too. I tried to rub her pussy while she gave me a HJ but she kept shying away. I took a wiff and I thought I was at a fish market. I guess it was a good thing she didnt offer more after all. Anyway, I'm still lurking around on the boards. I'm trying to stay off the streets. Too many damn LE's with nothing else better to do than harrass us, IMHO. Anyway, I guesss I'll take one for the team this time guys. Oh well, nothing a bowl cant cure.

Vlad De Sade
08-06-06, 02:55
Luv S,

That girl is no rookie. She looks like she has been getting slammed since she was twelve years old...

And I bet she gets spanked for $$$ all day long! If YOU nailed her and got the pics for free YOU are da man. And if YOU had to pay a little money for her time YOU are still da man.

Actually, she looks like alot of FUN. I wanna do bad, very bad things to her three holes... S**t, we should get Webcams to rail some lines off of her tight little tits! Doing yayo w/a ho like that is always a blast.

Like I always say. The SFV is still full of little gems. We just gotta do the work finding them. Its like mining for gold but better cause its P**sy!

Peace, V da Sadist

ReallyaNiceGuy
08-07-06, 01:38
Just driving by tonight and thought I'd stop in. Pulled in the parking lot and there were no cars, good sign. There was one girl outside on the phone and the door was open so I went in. Called out and a girl came down the stairs. When she saw me she asked if I wanted Lisa and I said yes, she called Lisa and I was in. Same FS.

Mike

Friendly Tiger
08-07-06, 10:04
Mike, ya gotta get Lisa's digits, man!!! LOL :)

Friendly Tiger
08-20-06, 11:39
When my plan A & B went bust, I went to a CMP in the far western SFV. During my first and only prior visit, I walked away with only a handshake. So I was mentally prepared for the same, but I challenged myself to get "everything". ;)

I was in luck; it was a slow afternoon. Linda showed me into the first room and asked if I had been there before. :D I lied, and told her "many times".

After my shower, I put my own Chinese music CD on the player in the room, to help the ambience. Linda loved the music! :D She started the massage by standing next to the top of my head, so I gently massaged her legs, approaching her ass. I like to take it slow, unless the girl moves giving me better access and the "green light". But Linda played it cool, not moving forward, nor away. She was still sizing me up.

Then she sat on the table, next to my butt. I moved my hands down along my sides, and accidentally touched her crotch. We both laughed, but since she didn't move away, I started stroking her pussy on the outside of her pants. She likewise, played with my "boys". Then she said "nice" and asked if I would like to see "more". "Of course", I replied.

She stood up and stepped out of her pants and removed her blouse. I sat up and massaged her B+ breasts, then removed her bra, so I could suck on them. At the same time, I started teasing her down below. She moaned her approval, so I laid her down and gave her the full treatment: long and slow daty with fingering, 69 (cbj), and fs cg & finishing in mish.

All in all, a good experience, especially considering the LE heat in the TO and WLV AMP's.

ReallyaNiceGuy
08-20-06, 14:53
Mike, ya gotta get Lisa's digits, man!!! LOL :)

:
She barely speak English so if I asked her for it I wouldn't be able to talk to her.

Mike

Friendly Tiger
08-21-06, 09:52
You're right, Mike.

On the other hand, whenever I've found a great AMP girl, I get her digits, JIC she disappears. I've always found a way to communicate, when both parties want to get together. LOL

Enjoy the ride, my friend!!! :)

ReallyaNiceGuy
08-23-06, 00:03
:
I made another visit to this place today. Saw another new girl. Had another great time. Andrea, 24, big girl with big tits and a big ass, about 5' 9" and 175. She lives in LA, goes to school, good English, sweet and very pleasant.

Straight forward and to the point. She asked what I wanted, told her everything, she asked how much, I said I know it's 100 and we were on out way. Damn good CBJ, Mesh, Doggie, nice view, and finished.

40 for 30 minutes plus 100 FS

Mike

Friendly Tiger
08-24-06, 22:45
I'd like to visit this place, but I need to find someone that has already been their customer.

Send me a pm if you have called this phone # and visited any of their girls.

TIA

ReallyaNiceGuy
08-27-06, 20:03
:
I saw CeCe again last night and this visit was even better than the first. When I walked in she gave me a big hug and stuck her tongue in my ear and grabbed my ass. In the room she gave me a wet DFK like she was happy to see me.

We showered together, more kissing, massaged each other, more kissing, a little BBBJ, then balls, then my ass, 69, RCG, CG, her on top, me on top, doggie and finished with her on top. It was as close as you can get to a GFE at a place like this.

She wants to marry me now. I'm going to try and take her out of there for lunch or dinner sometime. I tried to ask her about that last night but her English is so limited she didn't understand what I was asking. I think I'll call the boss and ask if it's possible.

Mike

Friendly Tiger
08-28-06, 09:14
Good luck, bro!!!!! :D

Vlad De Sade
08-28-06, 14:06
RNG,

My brother this is a delicate matter. The boss will more than likely frown down on your dating his sex workers.

Your girl CeCe is here for one reason. To make someone other than YOU, or even herself, lots of $$$!

She is probably a real sweety. I have met, banged and fallen for too many myself. Now I got a ball & chain so its great. I bang, bang, bang & then I go home to my special girl. Its perfect.

Back in the 90's and early 00's when I was mongering at Amp's w/a vengeance I was quick to try & date on the outside. I even learned to make great friends w/the mama sans, (xxxtra drugs & cash make an impact) so I would have some pull w/the girls. It doesnt work.

What happened to me was this. I fell for a Kamp girl at T Therapy during mid 2003. Cherry was her name. She "loved me too much" & I loved her back. I bought her medicine when she was sick, I took her out to lunch, I even got mama san to let me take her to a local hotel w/another girl for some drug induced fun. Alas, she was everybodys favorite. Seriously, mama san told me to my face that many guys richer than I were courting Cherry everyday. Can YOU imagine. How surreal for her. She meets us, F**ks us, & then we want to marry her because she is a physical goddess who gave us the best bbbjcim ever!!! So the mama san tells the owner everything and sure enough she is sent to another Kamp far away & then finally back to Korea. The big boss will not tolerate loosing his best girl to a rich, horny white man. Period!

My point is this have fun, flirt, date but dont fall for an Amp girl. If YOU do it can become an emotional nightmare. Remember to Stand in love, but never fall in love w/a w**re...

Peace, V da Sadist

Bob Mantis
08-28-06, 15:26
RNG,
My point is this have fun, flirt, date but dont fall for an Amp girl. If YOU do it can become an emotional nightmare. Remember to Stand in love, but never fall in love w/a w**re...

Peace, V da Sadist

Been there, still trying to get out of the consequences...

I think this is good advice. While I would never say never, and most women we pursue including nonAMP women aren't the "right" one anyway, I would especially caution against falling for an AMP girl.

First, remember these women grew up in another culture, one that you probably don't understand, and that may lead to clashes in understanding. They are usually not well educated, and often don't speak English. So, communication is a problem at more than one level.

Second, many of these women have emotional baggage you don't want to take on. Some sex workers have their heads on right, and they can separate clearly their work lives and their real love lives, but many are a mess. They entered into the sex work, because they couldn't do anything else, and they deal with greed and lust on a daily basis. Not good qualities for a secure relationship.

Third, many of these women have addictions. At the very least, they are addicted to the money -- about 20k per month. But, in addition, they often have alcohol, drug, or gambling addictions.

Fourth, many of these women want to get a green card more than anything else. They may say they love you, but may have no real love for you. They may marry you and then dump you, as soon as they can, and, having gotten their green card, bring their real love (some Korean childhood sweetheart) to the US and marry them. Yes, it happens all the time.

How do I know all this. Well, I am still involved in two AMP women, on two continents. Not married to either, but emotionally entangled, and it's a mess. I am working out how to let them loose. I have spent tens of thousands supporting one of them -- doctor's and dentist bills, car repairs, etc., and undoubtedly, I have supported her gambling addiction (incidentally one of the worst addictions, with a very high suicide rate, ultimately).

Sex is great, but at the end of the day, sex is only part of the glue that has to hold two people together. You gotta have a lot more there, too.

Zhuxi
08-28-06, 16:09
RNG,

My brother this is a delicate matter. The boss will more than likely frown down on your dating his sex workers.

Your girl CeCe is here for one reason. To make someone other than YOU, or even herself, lots of $$$!

She is probably a real sweety. I have met, banged and fallen for too many myself. Now I got a ball & chain so its great. I bang, bang, bang & then I go home to my special girl. Its perfect.

Back in the 90's and early 00's when I was mongering at Amp's w/a vengeance I was quick to try & date on the outside. I even learned to make great friends w/the mama sans, (xxxtra drugs & cash make an impact) so I would have some pull w/the girls. It doesnt work.

What happened to me was this. I fell for a Kamp girl at T Therapy during mid 2003. Cherry was her name. She "loved me too much" & I loved her back. I bought her medicine when she was sick, I took her out to lunch, I even got mama san to let me take her to a local hotel w/another girl for some drug induced fun. Alas, she was everybodys favorite. Seriously, mama san told me to my face that many guys richer than I were courting Cherry everyday. Can YOU imagine. How surreal for her. She meets us, F**ks us, & then we want to marry her because she is a physical goddess who gave us the best BBBJCIM ever! So the mama san tells the owner everything and sure enough she is sent to another Kamp far away & then finally back to Korea. The big boss will not tolerate loosing his best girl to a rich, horny white man. Period!

My point is this have fun, flirt, date but don't fall for an Amp girl. If YOU do it can become an emotional nightmare. Remember to Stand in love, but never fall in love w/a w**re.

Peace, V da SadistBoy is that the truth. I fell for a Cherry myself. More recent, and on the other side of the country. Either way, good advice there.

Zhuxi

Friendly Tiger
08-28-06, 23:25
Hell, I'm on a roll.

Lightning struck again, at another CMP in the far western SFV.

I drew Mary, but the mms joined in the four-hands massage, in order to check me out. Guess I passed the test, because mms left and Mary and I were off to the races, smothering all the bases.

40 + 80 and everyone left very, very happy.

ReallyaNiceGuy
08-29-06, 20:50
:
Thanks Zhuxi, Bob and V da Sadist,

It's all great advice and I appreciate it. But you guys can relax, I get it and would never fall for an AMP girl. Hell I don't even date regular girls, just tired of all the crap you have to put up with to get laid. I've been single for 12 years and not going to change that, I'm happy this way. No matter how many girls I see it's still cheaper than a SO of a wife.

The CeCe thing is just fun and different. Heck, if I could get her out of there I'd put her to work for me.

Mike

Zhuxi
08-29-06, 21:01
:

Thanks Zhuxi, Bob and V da Sadist,

It's all great advice and I appreciate it. But you guys can relax, I get it and would never fall for an AMP girl. Hell I don't even date regular girls, just tired of all the crap you have to put up with to get laid. I've been single for 12 years and not going to change that, I'm happy this way. No matter how many girls I see it's still cheaper than a SO of a wife.

The CeCe thing is just fun and different. Heck, if I could get her out of there I'd put her to work for me.

MikeHeh, hey man, she is cute though. Would not mind giving you applause if you took her out to dinner then breakfest ;) .

Zhuxi

Vlad De Sade
08-30-06, 02:24
RNG,

I am happy YOU just wanna have some xxxtra fun on the side!

I figured YOU were an experienced monger who knew how to party smart!

YOU get 2 or 3 girls like CeCe to work for YOU & OMG would YOU be rich!

Damn, I knew I was in the wrong business. I should be running a KAMP!

Could YOU imagine the fun we would all be having on my dime...

Dare to dream!

Peace, V da Sadist

FedEx
08-30-06, 19:55
That's incorrect, Vlad!

You wouldn't be making any money if you owned a KAMP. You would be chasing and screwing the girls all day long until your d*ck fell off and then some...

At least I know this is what I would do in that situation...LOL



RNG,

I am happy YOU just wanna have some xxxtra fun on the side!

I figured YOU were an experienced monger who knew how to party smart!

YOU get 2 or 3 girls like CeCe to work for YOU & OMG would YOU be rich!

Damn, I knew I was in the wrong business. I should be running a KAMP!

Could YOU imagine the fun we would all be having on my dime...

Dare to dream!

Peace, V da Sadist

Webcams
08-31-06, 08:26
:
Hell I don't even date regular girls, just tired of all the crap you have to put up with to get laid. I've been single for 12 years and not going to change that, I'm happy this way. No matter how many girls I see it's still cheaper than a SO of a wife.
Mike
Brother I can't tell you how right you are, I usually date between the escorts amps & s/w's cause I am a horny 8itch, Regular girls my order is married cheating women, young sluts, and anyone else, 95% of ALL married men I know cheat, it is sad they either hit strip clubs and get a whack do escorts, hit massage parlors anything to get a nut, a lot of guys end up getting divorced, and losing a lot of $$$, here's my problem, I can see paying up front for pussy, that's pretty fair, I can not understand paying for pussy I have already used, and can't hit, can you imagine paying an amp 800 a month, just because you banged a girl? what the fuck is the financial incentive in marriage? Oh I forgot it's all about Love, to bad people change.

I am with you I am staying single and will NEVER marry, Just not for me, sure dating is fun, partners are great, but the odds are overwhelmingly stacked against you, besides I get tired of the same pussy real quick.

FYI, the other 5% of the guys are newly married last two years give them time and they will cheat as well.
Some of these guys are married to 9 & 10's too, but that's the way we are set-up, to find pussy and conquer it.

ReallyaNiceGuy
08-31-06, 09:23
:
I know it's a crazy idea to think of owning an AMP but if you do the numbers it really is a lot of money to be made. I've thought about it for a long time but never had the time to do it.

I have just sold my business, start escrow on Monday, so in a few months I'll have a few bucks and all the time in the world so I just may look into it. I just have to figure out how to go about it.

Mike



RNG,

I am happy YOU just wanna have some xxxtra fun on the side!

I figured YOU were an experienced monger who knew how to party smart!

YOU get 2 or 3 girls like CeCe to work for YOU & OMG would YOU be rich!

Damn, I knew I was in the wrong business. I should be running a KAMP!

Could YOU imagine the fun we would all be having on my dime...

Dare to dream!

Peace, V da Sadist

CrazyBuzz1985
08-31-06, 10:04
Here's why I wouldn't do it buddy...

Couple accused of prostitution get 18 months for tax evasion

Copley News Service

LOS ANGELES - A Rancho Palos Verdes couple, who are accused of running a prostitution operation out of an Inglewood massage parlor, were sentenced on Monday to 18 months in prison on federal tax evasion charges and agreed to forfeit $2.8 million.

Sun Hi Lee, 56, and Wilford Johnson, 77, who owned Oriental Acupressure, still face state charges of pimping and pandering, but each pleaded guilty in April to one federal tax evasion count. The husband and wife allegedly didn't report $255,000 in income from their 2001 federal tax returns and failed to pay the government nearly $82,000 in income taxes.

Under the plea deal, they agreed to forfeit $2.4 million in cash and $356,000 in bank funds that were seized in an Internal Revenue Service investigation, which also involved the Sheriff's Department's vice unit.

Officials said Oriental Acupressure had roughly 100 to 150 customers a day and clients paid "house fees" ranging from $50 to $90 to buy time with prostitutes. Customers would pay additional fees directly to the prostitutes, who claimed to be a massage therapist or acupressure technician.



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I know it's a crazy idea to think of owning an AMP but if you do the numbers it really is a lot of money to be made. I've thought about it for a long time but never had the time to do it.

I have just sold my business, start escrow on Monday, so in a few months I'll have a few bucks and all the time in the world so I just may look into it. I just have to figure out how to go about it.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
08-31-06, 22:17
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Last night was very interesting. I went to see Lisa but was told she wasn't there, she was working some place else and she gave me a phone number.

I called and got the address but when I got there it was an auto repair shop. Well that can't be right so I called back and was told that was the place. So I went back and found a place to park and went up to the door but it was locked, I rang the bell but no answer. Then as I was about ready to give up a car driven by a Chinese woman pulled up, I waited for her and she let me in.

We went upstairs and you know it was really nice up there, just like home. We walked into the living room and there was Lisa, she remembered my name and invited me to sit down on the couch with her. Lisa was all lovie dovie with me as we sat and talked with the mamason, Nancy, for a good 15 minutes before going to the room.

At the other place Lisa was always the same routine, massage my back and ass, I remove her pants, nudge her up on the table and she mounts me, but here she was more open. I did her standing while she was bent over the table and with her sitting on the table, mish and doggie. She wanted me to go down on her but is smelled bad so I didn't but fingered her and played with her ass. She seemed to love it all. When we were done she cleaned me up with hot towels and then she laid down with me and more lovie dovie for like 10 minutes. Good time for 40 plus 60.

The room had a big window door with lace covering so you could kind of see in and out of it so before we got down to it Lisa shoved the table into the corner of the room and turned off the lights. I really think that you're not supposed to get FS at the places run by this group, just like the ads on CL say.

While we were getting dressed I asked her for her cell number, she said OK and left the room to get paper and pen. When she came back she had this Chinese to English translator called a Besta. She showed it to me and wrote "Lisa loves Mike" on it. How cute. I wanted to know more about the thing but her English is so limited she didn't understand me so I asked if we could ask Nancy about it. We went back to the living room to talk to Nancy but now there were two other girls there, Janet and Shaw Shaw, that I was introduced to, got big hugs from both. We all sat around talking, as best we could with Nancy translating for me and Lisa was feeding me grapes the whole time. We were there for about 20 minutes before I said I had to go but they didn't want me to go and asked me to stay longer, I declined and Lisa walked me out.

I really liked Shaw Shaw, cute face, outgoing persanalty, nice body and damn sexy. She flirted with me a lot while I was there so I think I'll try and see her soon.

Mike

Webcams
08-31-06, 23:24
Here's why I wouldn't do it buddy...

Couple accused of prostitution get 18 months for tax evasion

Copley News Service

LOS ANGELES - A Rancho Palos Verdes couple, who are accused of running a prostitution operation out of an Inglewood massage parlor, were sentenced on Monday to 18 months in prison on federal tax evasion charges and agreed to forfeit $2.8 million.

Sun Hi Lee, 56, and Wilford Johnson, 77, who owned Oriental Acupressure, still face state charges of pimping and pandering, but each pleaded guilty in April to one federal tax evasion count. The husband and wife allegedly didn't report $255,000 in income from their 2001 federal tax returns and failed to pay the government nearly $82,000 in income taxes.

Under the plea deal, they agreed to forfeit $2.4 million in cash and $356,000 in bank funds that were seized in an Internal Revenue Service investigation, which also involved the Sheriff's Department's vice unit.

Officials said Oriental Acupressure had roughly 100 to 150 customers a day and clients paid "house fees" ranging from $50 to $90 to buy time with prostitutes. Customers would pay additional fees directly to the prostitutes, who claimed to be a massage therapist or acupressure technician.

WoW two things here, Bareback with a girl that does 40-50 guys a day sounds scary, damn.

2.8 Million to the goverment, but 18 months in a kush fed prison doesn't sound bad at all, just imagine how much they have stashed away if there ok with that plea bargain. Where the hell would I stash 2.4 Mill in cash ? ?

That much cash would make anyone paranoid as hell.

ReallyaNiceGuy
09-01-06, 00:29
WoW two things here, Bareback with a girl that does 40-50 guys a day sounds scary, damn.

2.8 Million to the goverment, but 18 months in a kush fed prison doesn't sound bad at all, just imagine how much they have stashed away if there ok with that plea bargain. Where the hell would I stash 2.4 Mill in cash ? ?

That much cash would make anyone paranoid as hell.

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That's how I see it too, a kush fed prison can't be that bad if you get caught.

What about on a lot smaller scale, say two girls seeing 5 customers each a day at 200 each, 60/40 split, 800 per day, 5,600 per week, 22,400 per month for say 3 months, that's $67,000.00! Then lay low for awhile and do it again in a new location.

Mike

Webcams
09-01-06, 00:51
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That's how I see it too, a kush fed prison can't be that bad if you get caught.

What about on a lot smaller scale, say two girls seeing 5 customers each a day at 200 each, 60/40 split, 800 per day, 5,600 per week, 22,400 per month for say 3 months, that's $67,000.00! Then lay low for awhile and do it again in a new location.

Mike
Fuck if I wasn't so afraid I would fuck my profits away, I would be all in!

I am sure if you restricted admission to known customers and had a way to verify they were not law enforcement, had decent girls, and a decent place.
Moving occasionally, it would be a good deal, I would even suggest no location, Fuck the police, move from hotel to hotel. get hot girls and wait a second this sounds like escort to me LOL

Marlowe
09-01-06, 01:39
Fuck if I wasn't so afraid I would fuck my profits away, I would be all in!

I am sure if you restricted admission to known customers and had a way to verify they were not law enforcement, had decent girls, and a decent place.
Moving occasionally, it would be a good deal, I would even suggest no location, Fuck the police, move from hotel to hotel. get hot girls and wait a second this sounds like escort to me LOL

There are enough known senior members that prefer AMP to SW, and if a good enough variety of girl was available, maybe even I would give it a try.

By only dealing with known customers it would reduce if not eliminate the LE threat.

An isolated location where the foot traffic wouldn't be so noticeable would also help.

In a way this is similar to my old plan where some of us would buy and refurbish one of these abandoned NoTells, and then have closed circuit videos of the providers on TV's in the room, with their phone numbers on the video, so that the room renter contracts independently with the girl (thus it isn't a house of prostitution-because there are no girls on site).

Also, this sort of set up would negate many community objections to prostitution, as well as many of Pig Bratton's concerns.

In all, its too good of an idea to have it work out IMHO.

Spank Me
09-01-06, 03:18
I called and got the address but when I got there it was an auto repair shop. Well that can't be right so I called back and was told that was the place. ...Wow, what a great idea! Who is going to suspect an auto repair shop that attracts lots of guys with cars? Talk about a Jiffy Lube job.

Ekopekop
09-07-06, 11:58
From CL - VanOwen/Reseda. Really hard to find at night. No parking.
Had Jenny. Spoke almost no English. About 5'7, B/C.
Paid for 1/2, got a full hour.
Good massage, ending in a handshake.
Able to undo her bra and unzip pants to feel her up after the flip.

Zlmmm
09-17-06, 02:57
I am new to the area and have posted more on the International board and the past few years a ton on a Vancouver board, but I thoght it was about time to contribute here.

I called the number in the ad and found the place on Topanga. I was met at the door by a late 20s / early 30s provider named Geanie (or possibly Gin-Yi) from Beijing, who has been here 1 year and spoke ok English (no she did not look like the posted pic of Cece). The apartment was nice and sparsely furnished like all the residential CAMPs (I love the tin foil over the sky light).

I volunteed a donation 20 less than that stated in the ad and she ushered me off to the shower. I felt the urge to take a stealth dump before the shower and right when I was wiping she came in and I was caught like a deer in headlights as she asked for the other 20. Doah! I finished and feigned a mistake fishing out the other bill. Off to shower and then back in the room and quickly down to business.

She was cute and had a nice ass, slight tummy and nice tits with a little sag and I think what was some slight stretch marks. Her ass was still pretty firm and made me think she was late 20s / early 30s. Started with CBJ while I petted the kitty from behind (digits ok), 69, then CG, Asian CG, missionary, and doggie to finish. It was a good ride and lasted 25 or 30 min total, but after about 20 min the requests to finish started in (not a lot but 3 or 4 more than appreciated).

After we finished I asked for a massage, she started weak, but finished much nicer. She rubbed the cheeks but nothing more intimate. She tried to end there, but I asked her to do the front which she did not audibly object to. Another 5 min on the front and no help to the little buddy then she offered the hot towel and was off.

Geanie was friendly and talkative (we talked about my trip to China last year) and she did not ask for a tip which was cool (the no hassle factor is nice). The price is probably 1 or 2 Jacksons more than one can negotiate for in an AMP and the mileage was maybe a bit less than some (no rim or bbbj). The body was nice, but the kitty was very loose making me think either she had been in the biz for 20 years or more likely she had recently had a kid (no noticeable lactation).

All in all a happy experience, but I am not sure if I would go back. I may at some point to try the other older lady I saw on the way out and see if the mileage is dramatically improved (they gave me a different number on my way out indicating I had graduated to a more trusted level of client).

Looks - 7.5
Attitude - 7.5
Service - 7.0
Value - 6

ReallyaNiceGuy
09-18-06, 01:21
I saw Lisa at the auto place on Friday, she was happy to see me. This visit was better than the last, almost like a girl friend, but not, kissing, touching and several positions.

You know, I'm getting worried about her and her willingness to do FS without a condom. She tried to do it with me again and she knows I use one. I don't know if she is having sex with everyone or not but even if it's half or even some how many carry a condom with them. You know what I mean? Maybe I should stay away.

The place was busy when I was there, I waited like 10 minutes for
Lisa, and Jenny was with someone. Then when I left there was another
one in with Jenny, one on the couch and one at the door when I left.

Virgil1216
09-19-06, 00:04
I always loved what Clark Gable said. He was well known for using "professionals" in his day. He said, "I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave."

Happy Hunting!

Virgil

ReallyaNiceGuy
09-23-06, 13:26
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Last week I stopped at a place on Reseda Blvd. in Northridge. Saw a lady named Michelle, late 30's, nice body. I made sure she saw the condom I had with my money as I paid the door fee hoping that would help her know what I wanted.
So-so massage. I rubbed her ass and tits with no resistance. After the flip I got her pants and underwear off and her shirt and bra up. Sucked her tits and fingered her during the HJ. Made it clear I wanted BJ and or sex but she said "no, next time". Yea right! It was a nice HJ but they usually don't do it for me and after awhile I told her to stop. She asked for 60 but I told her she didn't finish it so only 40 and she was OK.
She asked me to come back, she works Monday thru Wednesday, and said more next time.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
09-24-06, 18:32
I called first thing this morning to see CeCe again, dang I like her. But was told she wasn't working today and that there was a new girl named Shaw Shaw. Now I'm thinking this is the same girl I met one night at the Auto Place so I told the guy I'd be right over. Well it turned out that is wasn't the same girl.

This Shaw Shaw was Korean, 26, maybe 5'4 and 100#, kind of cute. She said she is living in Canyon Country with a cousin and had only been in the US 1 week. Decent massage, CBJ, 69, RCG, CG, mesh, finished doggie. She acted like she really got into it, "yea baby fuck me Mike", "I love your big banana", etc., that's always nice. No pictures.

Gave her my number and asked her to call me so we could go to dinner sometime. She said she would but we'll see. 1 hour and 10 minutes, 160 at the door, no tip.

Mike

Am I the only one doing anything out there?

Zlmmm
09-25-06, 01:03
I followed an ad in the Weekly for an AMP grand opening with a coupon for $35 30 min massage. I called and got the address a few blocks off Topanga/Ventura. The place is in a small biz complex with dentists and at least one other MP. I only saw 1 Chinese lady in her early 40s.

I entered one of the rooms and hopped on the table, then she came in, took the donation and started. I was initially pretty happy since the massage was one of the better ones, though she did not throw in much erotically charged stimulation (I tried to move around and show other positive signs of my ulterior motives). After 20 min on the back she said to flip and I started feeling her up and she offered a hand shake for 40. I tried to get her to go down and she said something to effect that she is Chinese and they do not like that to which I sort of laughed (that was not at all my experience in China). Even with her starting out and me asking for more she would not even let me get her clothes off or anything and stood far enough that I could barely feel under her bra and only a bit down the back of her pants. She was pretty mechanical and all she allowed was some rubbing under her clothes but without any visual stimulation it took me 20 min or so and I had to help out before turning over to her for the finish. 35 + 40. I would not repeat (although the massage was quite good).

Massage - 8
Looks - 6.75
Attitude - 5
Service - 3
Value - 5

Vlad De Sade
09-25-06, 01:08
RNG,

Sadly, its all YOU...

I haven't mongered in weeks. Probably more than a month...

I tried to bang Julie last week but she never returned my voice mails. Atleast, her phone is still in service. I should try Jenny or just go over there. I know its against the protocals to just ring the bell w/out calling first. But f**k its frustrating.

I might hit MoMo in Hollywierd this week??? And maybe I'll post my exploits discreetly.

Peace, Vlad da Sadist

Friendly Tiger
09-25-06, 09:57
Sorry bro, I'm workin' a non-pro Korean I found on CL Therapeutic. I'll let you know if it turns into anything worth sharin'. :)

Webcams
09-26-06, 00:58
Am I the only one doing anything out there?Sorry Most of my time is spent hustlin the newbies on the Fig track, Amps are to expensive for so so service these days, not the old days where the prices were right on for young hot Latinas, damn when you find a place keep hitting that shit like there's no tomorrow, because as we all have learned there very well might not be a tomorrow.

Love PHD
09-26-06, 13:26
Sorry Most of my time is spent hustlin the newbies on the Fig track, Amps are to expensive for so so service these days, not the old days where the prices were right on for young hot Latinas, damn when you find a place keep hitting that shit like there's no tomorrow, because as we all have learned there very well might not be a tomorrow.I can't agree with you more. The last two MP that I've encountered and had fabulous times have closed.

Two sexy latinas named angel and coral that make me shudder when I think about them.

ReallyaNiceGuy
10-04-06, 00:14
Hey, it's me again.

Sunday morning I called and found out that CeCe was working so I told the guy I'd be right over. When I got to the place I called again and he said CeCe was waiting for me. Walked in and sure enough she was waiting and happy to see me with a big kiss on the lips and a big hug. She took my hand and led me up stairs. In the room lots more kissing, DFK, grabbing, touching, lots of fun. I gave her the money, she left, I jumped in the shower, got out and she was waiting naked, dried me off and off to the bed. She told me that I haven't been to see her in 4 weeks. How does she know that? Is she keeping track? I told her that I have called but she wasn't working and she seemed OK with that.

She climbed on top, laid down on me and started kissing me very passionately while grinding away. Then she slid the cover on, dabbed on a little lube, stuck it in and rode away until she came. She rolled off and had me get on top then with me deep inside of her she held on to my ass and went to town and she came again. She did this two more times so she came 4 times in a row. With a big smile on her face she held up four fingers and said 4 times thank you Mike. Hell, I didn't do anything but hold on.

Now it was my turn but with the lube all over I took her by the hand and led her to the shower. A little soap and water and we're good to go again, I kept the cover on so it got washed off too. Back to the bed and I laid her face down and kissed all over her back as I worked my way down to her ass and licked and probed her, got her up on her knees and continued. Then I slid into her doggie then mish, RCG, CG and doggie again. I pounded for all I was worth until I couldn't hardly breath but I didn't cum. She was determined to finish me so she started some serious sucking and licking my dick, balls and ass, still nothing. She took off the cover and put on some baby oil and started jacking me while she played with my balls and ass, still nothing. I pulled her up and managed to get inside of her for a few hard thrust but she didn't like it BB so she pulled out. I did it like five more times but could only get a few thrust before she pulled out again. At this point I was exhausted but quite happy so I told her it was OK and we laid in each others arms for awhile.

We got up to get dressed but I was still tired so I just sat on the bed while she got dressed. After she was dressed she wanted to help me get dressed. She looked so cute sitting at my feet I knelt down and kissed her, she put her arms around my neck and kissed me, we fell back with me on top of her on the floor still kissing. While we were DFKing she reached down and took off her underwear, took me and put it inside her. I wasn't hard but it didn't take long and soon I was deep inside. She was loving it and so was I. As I was about to cum I pulled out and shot a huge load on her stomach. She loved that too and she was so happy she got me off. She got up and while holding her dress up we went to the bathroom, she cleaned me up then she got in the shower to clean herself up. I got dressed, she put my socks and shoes on, tied then and we went downstairs. Some more kissing and hugging saying goodbye. She asked me to come back on Tuesday but I told her I couldn't but I'd be back soon.

Man oh man, I sure have fun with CeCe.

Mike

Friendly Tiger
10-04-06, 09:02
Man o man, Mike. You've got a keeper. :D

ReallyaNiceGuy
10-06-06, 09:34
Stopped in here yesterday and to my surprise I got a young, 27, thin girl. Her name is Susan, from Hong Kong, been in the US for 12 years, LA then SF and now back in LA, her family lives in New Zealand, maybe 5' 5" and 100 pounds, good English so you can cary on a conversation with her, very nice and sweet.
Got an oil massage with hands, forearms and elbows, not bad at all, I did the usual touching and feeling with no resistance at all. On the flip some more good massage and she asked very polite if it was OK to massage junior, I told her please do. Got the shirt and bra up, kissing her all over her chest, stomach and back, wonderful skin. But when I undid her belt she told me she was on her period so not this time. I let it go at that but left her pants open so I could kiss and touch her tummy and feel her ass. After she finished me off some hot towels and hugging.
On the final hug goodbye she asked me to come back next week, I told her I would and added no period, she smiled and said no, no period then OK, then I will be back for sure to see her.

40 door for 30 minutes and 40 tip.

Mike

Mose
10-06-06, 18:36
I have been there a few times but yesterday was the last. Service mechanical, too short a time. Some nice looking chicas but very average to poor service, little touching so why bother. Go else where.

Success Story
10-06-06, 23:41
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Vlad De Sade
10-07-06, 05:39
SS,

Brother, I feel for YOU. This is a terrible time to be a new or old monger in LA!

That being said YOU need to hustle, motivate and waste countless hours searching for "Tang" like we all do.

Yeah, in Amps its easy. Just show up w/your $$$. And leave w/a smile. YOU should have been networking w/atleast 1 mama san from Inglewood or BP. Or do like RNG and sift thru all the crap on craigslist till YOU find a diamond...

We are under attack from LE, city councils, Puritans, and the Feds! We gotta be smarter than the man. I was just having this discussion w/Degenrate today. After smokin da Kine I suggested that perhaps Jackson's site is set up by LE so we can mine all the gold for them. Ha, ha, ha. Obviously big D & I were Irie & delusional w/anger. We are pissed about the lack of quality strolls, Amps and the scene in general in LA.

Its a joke! I trolled SB this week its changed. The PC police are cleaning up all the strolls in the county. SB actually looked safe and clean. WTF? Back in the day, last year even, I could find a decent ho on this stroll at any hour of any day. It was magical. Those were good times indeed...

So newbies its like this we are all f**ked! Therefore, we are even more paranoid than usual. No one is going to post s**t in these dire times. Unless, they want to be stupid. Why post exploits anymore. It just adds heat to an always burning fire. I will not help contribute to the destruction of the mongering scene thats still left intact. Its fragile. Telling newbies, who could be naive, where to find an incall Kamp or an off the grid Amp is not worth the risk. No one wants to be guilty of directly contributing to the demise of any providers at this point in time. This is war. And the truth is that our providers & us are under relentless attack from the powers that be...

Oh man is this rant depressing. I cant help the newbies. I can barely find fun for $$$ myself. And the future of our hobby looks worse not better IMHO!

Peace, V da Sadist

Friendly Tiger
10-07-06, 09:43
One of our mutual friends says Susan played the same game on him, and it didn't get any better the second time at bat. Ask him for more details, offline. :(

ReallyaNiceGuy
10-08-06, 18:36
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Tired and horny Friday night and didn't feel like driving so I called Lisa. She answered her cell this time so I was on my way. Had a 30 session, 40, CBJ and CFS, 60 tip. She just will not let me take a photo of her.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
10-10-06, 01:15
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Sunday was cool. I got a call from CeCe before they opened and she asked me to come over. So I did.

Every visit gets better than the last and we had a great time for well over an hour.

I got a bunch of photo of us in action in lots of positions but can't post them because they are to nasty. She is so funny, wants to see every photo right after I take it. I took this one right after she had her sixth climax.

I will be back.

Mike

MoonView
10-10-06, 09:57
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Sunday was cool. I got a call from CeCe before they opened and she asked me to come over. So I did.

Every visit gets better than the last and we had a great time for well over an hour.

I got a bunch of photo of us in action in lots of positions but can't post them because they are to nasty. She is so funny, wants to see every photo right after I take it. I took this one right after she had her sixth climax.

I will be back.

Mike

Sixth climax!...way to go stud. :D

Nice pic, worth a 1000 words...says it all. :p

ReallyaNiceGuy
10-13-06, 01:14
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Stopped in here tonight for the first time in a long time. Seemed like it was slow, I think there was only one girl working.
Her name was Lucy, 28 years old, cute, friendly, Chinese, I guess about 5' 5" and 110#, good English, been in the US 4 years.
So-so massage with oil. I did the usual touch her leg, feel my up, rubbed her ass and it's a go.
On the flip I slid her underwear down and fingered her. She asked about a tip, I told her I'd take care of her, she asked how much, I told her 80 for sex and she said no sex. How about a BJ and she said 100, I offered 80 and she agreed. She said she would go get the Saran Wrap, I told her I had a condom but she wanted the Saran Wrap. She put it on like a pro and went to work while I was sticking my finger in her and kissing her ass. All of a sudden she stopped, walked around to the head of the table, climbed up and got into 69 position. She said that should be better. It was great. Her ass fit perfect in my hands. She tasted so sweet and smelled great. She seemed to love what I was doing and I loved what she was doing. I shot my load and she just kept going until I was limp.
She cleaned me up, helped me get dressed, we hugged and kissed a little, I gave her the tip and I was on my way.
OK place but I really don't think you can get FS here.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
10-13-06, 01:21
Sixth climax!...way to go stud. :D

Nice pic, worth a 1000 words...says it all. :p



Thanks MoonView.
But no way I'm a stud, not at my age anyways. Mostly I just held on for the ride. Although she did keep me up the whole time.

Mike

Conejo Joe
10-13-06, 12:32
Stopped in here tonight for the first time in a long time. Seemed like it was slow, I think there was only one girl working.

Her name was Lucy, 28 years old, cute, friendly, Chinese, I guess about 5' 5" and 110#, good English, been in the US 4 years.

So-so massage with oil. I did the usual touch her leg, feel my up, rubbed her ass and it's a go.

On the flip I slid her underwear down and fingered her. She asked about a tip, I told her I'd take care of her, she asked how much, I told her 80 for sex and she said no sex. How about a BJ and she said 100, I offered 80 and she agreed. She said she would go get the Saran Wrap, I told her I had a condom but she wanted the Saran Wrap. She put it on like a pro and went to work while I was sticking my finger in her and kissing her ass. All of a sudden she stopped, walked around to the head of the table, climbed up and got into 69 position. She said that should be better. It was great. Her ass fit perfect in my hands. She tasted so sweet and smelled great. She seemed to love what I was doing and I loved what she was doing. I shot my load and she just kept going until I was limp.

She cleaned me up, helped me get dressed, we hugged and kissed a little, I gave her the tip and I was on my way.

OK place but I really don't think you can get FS here.

MikeGood to hear TO still has some life. I went to the Moorpark place on LA ave. Just a massage and goodbye. I miss the good times this last spring/summer.

Vlad De Sade
10-15-06, 03:03
Mongers,

I was just thinking about my last days at Devonshire Health before they closed. I went wild there during Aug, Sept & Oct '04. Somedays I hit both Kamps, yeah TT was still open, simultaneously. So many fly K girls for the taking...

Yep DH closed Oct 22, I could be off a day or 2, 2004. I came home from Vegas after that 3rd weekend in Oct and they were closed! WTF? Good times, good times...

Tonight I passed by Numero Uno at around 9pm w/a fistful of dollars in my hand. OMG I wanted to hit Topanga Therapy w/a vengenace. If only we still could. We had it so good in Chatsworth for so long... Now we have nothing in da SFV period!

Sorry, I just felt like remembering what were once great locations, girls and experiences. Atleast I had them. Or was it all a dream???

Have fun & be safe. And always be smarter than the man!

Peace, V da Sadist

Cecil Suzuki
10-17-06, 14:17
Wow, what a great idea! Who is going to suspect an auto repair shop that attracts lots of guys with cars? Talk about a Jiffy Lube job.More hints about the location of this find establishment?

Lulu Pussy
10-17-06, 22:11
I've been having good suck-sess in Simi, but had an hour to blow in WH so went to that place way up by the freeway.

Got Cindy. Nice handshake, but nothing else.

Back to Simi tomorrow.

Friendly Tiger
10-18-06, 09:46
More hints about the location of this find establishment?Check LA Weekly / LAXpress for ads that do not list a specific street address.

Friendly Tiger
10-18-06, 09:47
LP, forgettabout the new place on Stearns. Strictly legit. :(

Blake 4
10-18-06, 21:09
Reseda and Chase, AMP, Rose's. 40 for a half hour. Was sure to lay down in the towel with myself pointing down and exposed, allowing carressing fingers to graze it, which prompted me to spread legs further. She (Suzy) was dressed in street clothes, not allowing much contact. I touched some private areas, for a few seconds before she giggled and pulled away. Rolled over she continued the message, occassionally passing over my mid section, moving the towel over each pass. After I was exposed she held up 4 fingers and I said yes.

The message was light stimulating touch, no hard rubdowns at all. The second part was exactly the opposite, very firm and deliberate, wish it was the other way around.

Suzy was late 30's, maybe early 40's. Very slim, very flat, and covered the whole time. Face was nice, but not attractive. The experience was nice, but not memorable.

FedEx
10-24-06, 21:26
Vlad,

Stop twisting the knife (sob...sniff...sob)...

After 17 years of mongering, my 2 all-time ATF's were in Chatsworth: 20 y.o. Anna at West Vallet Therapy in early 2002 and 23 y.o. Michelle at TT in mid 2004.

Oh man, the youth that was at our feet, just for the taking... The flat abs, the enthusiasm & eagerness to please...

Damn LE!

Peace,
Fedex


Mongers,

I was just thinking about my last days at Devonshire Health before they closed. I went wild there during Aug, Sept & Oct '04. Somedays I hit both Kamps, yeah TT was still open, simultaneously. So many fly K girls for the taking...

Yep DH closed Oct 22, I could be off a day or 2, 2004. I came home from Vegas after that 3rd weekend in Oct and they were closed! WTF? Good times, good times...

Tonight I passed by Numero Uno at around 9pm w/a fistful of dollars in my hand. OMG I wanted to hit Topanga Therapy w/a vengenace. If only we still could. We had it so good in Chatsworth for so long... Now we have nothing in da SFV period!

Sorry, I just felt like remembering what were once great locations, girls and experiences. Atleast I had them. Or was it all a dream???

Have fun & be safe. And always be smarter than the man!

Peace, V da Sadist

Friendly Tiger
10-25-06, 09:32
And Fedex, don't forget about the kissing: full on, passionate, DFK. It doesn't get any better than that!!!!

Ritchey Rich
10-25-06, 18:59
Remember those days all too well.



Vlad,

Stop twisting the knife (sob...sniff...sob)...

After 17 years of mongering, my 2 all-time ATF's were in Chatsworth: 20 y.o. Anna at West Vallet Therapy in early 2002 and 23 y.o. Michelle at TT in mid 2004.

Oh man, the youth that was at our feet, just for the taking... The flat abs, the enthusiasm & eagerness to please...

Damn LE!

Peace,
Fedex

FedEx
10-27-06, 10:00
Yeah, all we can do now is roast marshmallows over the campfire and bring up the memories... so sad!


Remember those days all too well.

Blake 4
10-28-06, 13:29
Went back to the AMP on Reseda, this time I got Susan, much younger, prettier, and warmer than Suzy. The massage was also the opposite of Suzy, hard and determined, followed by a nice soft manual.

Webcams
10-28-06, 13:48
Kinda wish LE would have tried gang enforcement or something instead of taking away some of the best discrete places we had.

I never thought T.T, would get shut down like that ya the parking situation was difficult but it was so nice.

Anyone remember the cute Russian girls in the west valley devonshire? Man all kinds of action is very quiet now.

Ritchey Rich
10-29-06, 19:43
Definitely sad. Wish could find some of those girls.



Yeah, all we can do now is roast marshmallows over the campfire and bring up the memories... so sad!

ReallyaNiceGuy
10-29-06, 20:46
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Stopped at a place on Saturday that has been around awhile, I was here once before a long time ago. Saw a nice lady, her name was Rebecca, about 5'5" and maybe 120#, tiny little ass and B cup, said she was 28, from China, lives in the SGV, in the states 4 years, good English, only works Saturday and Sunday and she said she even has a massage license.

I paid 60 for an hour and because I had the time I didn't push it and kept my hands in tight. Got a great massage. Well about 30 minutes into it she moved my hand to the edge of the table and started rubbing up against it. I played it cool and she got more aggressive grinding my hand. At this point I got into it and before it was over I had her pants off, shirt up and bra unhooked.

Sucked on her tits while she jacked me then got her up on the table for some 69 while she sucked me with Saran Wrap and when I came she didn't quit until I was limp and dry. Nice! Very nice! I gave her 80 tip.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
10-29-06, 20:59
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Oh yea, I had another session with CeCe this week.
As always, WOW!

When I get my own AMP I'm going to have girls that give this kind of service.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
11-14-06, 02:07
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So a week ago, sorry for the delay in posting, I went to this new Condo place in the valley. As I was taking my shoes off the girl asked if I remembered her, I looked a minute and it came to me, she was Shaw Shaw. But not the Shaw Shaw I met at the auto place, it was the Shaw Shaw I saw at another condo out in the valley. It was nice to see her again but she's not the Shaw Shaw I'm looking for. We had a nice time together though.

After we are done we go back downstairs and there is another girl there. I take a second look, my heart is racing, could it be her, it was her, the Shaw Shaw I met at the auto place. I say hello Shaw Shaw and I ask if she remembers me from the auto place and she said she did. I was telling her how many times I'd called Nancy and asked for her but was always told "No Shaw Shaw today", we laughed. I said something about Nancy not liking me and in walks Nancy. Small world. I asked Nancy to confirm that I'd called many times asking for Shaw Shaw and she confirmed that I had.

Just when I thought I'd found her she is gone, I called Nancy at the number for the new Condo the next week and no answer. I called Nancy at another number and no answer there either. I left several messages but never got a call back. I called another number for Nancy and she answered, I asked for Shaw Shaw and again was told "No Shaw Shaw today". I asked about the new Condo and she said it was not there any more. She told me to go to another place and that there were two new girls there. I passed.

But I went to another brand new place I found. That's another interesting story and I'll post about it later.

To be continued . . .

Mike

Vlad De Sade
11-16-06, 03:43
RNG,

Any of these condos stocked w/Kgirls? Like the place in Encino. Are they still open? Please, PM me w/any details. I'd really appreciate it if YOU have the time...

Peace, V da Sadist

Friendly Tiger
11-16-06, 10:30
Very few Kgirls working in the SFV, and no active kgirl houses at this time.

Chinese houses have been coming and going.

ReallyaNiceGuy
11-21-06, 23:47
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Sorry for the delay. Where was I at? Oh yea, I went to this new AMP in the valley. I walked in and guess who was there? (No it wasn't Shaw Shaw darn it) It was Lisa! She remembered my name and everything. We sat on the couch and got caught up on what was going on. She said she and her friend, I think her name was Cindy and she was at the old place too, were working for someone different at this place. She said Nancy was not a nice "boss" and didn't pay very well.

After about 30 minutes of talking I had my section with Lisa. Nice and inexpensive as usual.

Now I see from their ads on CL that they have 3 girls working there.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
11-22-06, 02:28
Saw Ce Ce on Sunday. Funny thing was she knew I hadn't been to see her in three weeks. How does she keep track of that? Anyways, I had the usual great time. She had a new outfit that really sexy on her, for as long as it was on.

It was about 10:30 AM. Was it one of you guys seeing her before me? I was sitting on the couch as you were leaving.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
11-25-06, 23:22
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Tuesday - Had a little free time and was in the area so seeing that I hadn't been here in a long time decided to stop in.

The place hasn't change a bit and the boss lady remembered me. I asked her to tell the girl that I'd been there before. Got a nice looking, nice body, late 20's girl.

Normal routine, I strip and lay on my back, she comes in and I feel her up, she asks what I want, tell her everything for 100, she agrees, I pay her, she leaves to get the accessories, she takes off her clothes, she puts on the cover, CBJ, mesh, doggie to finish. She was fun, took a pounding and seemed to get into it. Nice.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
11-25-06, 23:50
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Wednesday - I never get this much free time. But had to wait for something in the valley today and went to this CAMP. Not a good experience.

Paid 40 for 30 minutes. After the flip she rubs the boys and makes the sign for a HJ, I point at her privates and she goes no-no. OK, easy up lady. I ask how much for the HJ, she holds up 4 fingers. I point at her mouth, she holds up 8 fingers and I agree, she ask in I have a cover, I get it out of my pants pocket, open it, hand it to her and put the wrapper back in my pocket.

She does a little HJ, puts on the cover and starts the weakest CBJ I'd ever had. Then after about 2 minutes she stops and removes the cover. WTF? I said your not done yet are you? She said she would be right back. When she returned she started cleaning me up, not that there was anything to clean up. I tried to protest but she didn't understand so I just said F... it and got dressed.

As I was leaving she asked for her tip and I told her no tip. She started yelling at me in Chinese and I just walked out of the room and to the front door and left with her right behind me as I closed the door on her. Being that it's in a medical building she didn't follow me into the hallway.

Her name was Nancy so if you get her walk away.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
11-26-06, 00:27
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Thursday - Yes on Thanksgiving too.
First thing in the morning I thought I'd go see Lisa at her new place but when I got there I found out she wasn't working today.

I was greeted at the door by Cindy and she asked me to sit down and she got me some tea. We talked about how things were going at the new place. She said business was good and they were happy there and with their new boss. Met another new girl named Annie, she sat next to me and seemed very sweet. I'd do her for sure.

After about 15 minutes of talking Cindy asked if I wanted a massage now and I said sure. Now I think I saw all of the girls at Woodlake and never got FS from anyone of them so I didn't hold out any hope with Cindy. And I was right. However she gave me one of the finest HJ's with FUTB, I had to look that one up, I'd ever had. Very intense and satisfying. I was pleased.

40 for 30 minutes and 40 tip.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
11-26-06, 01:29
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Friday - Just kidding, I took Friday off.

ReallyaNiceGuy
11-26-06, 01:32
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Saturday - I got a call from Lisa this morning. We spoke for a minute and she gave the phone to a lady named Nina. It seems that Lisa is at another new place run by the same people as the other new place. Nina tells me that this place is very nice and ask me to come over and see it and that she'll give me a good deal. What the heck I told her I'd be right over.

It turns out that it's in a professional office building and really is nice. I got the grand tour, some tea and some Chinese snack cakes. Nina spoke very good English and said I was a special friend because Lisa said I was always nice to her. She then said that if I wanted to stay for a massage it would be free today. I told her thanks and Lisa went to a room. Lisa and I had a nice time as usual.

On the way out Nina and Lisa talked in Chinese and then Nina said that Lisa wanted me to tell my friends that Lisa was here. Now as far as I can recall I think I must have hooked about a dozen of you guys up with Lisa so consider yourself told. If you want the info PM me.

Mike

Zlmmm
11-30-06, 01:53
I had a somewhat fun, but odd session with a lady at a CAMP last evening and left less than fully satisfied.

I called up a place off CL and drove on over. There were 2 ladies working when I got there, both spoke English. I chose the taller one, forgot the name. She was tall, about 45-48 with a bit of a belly (later I saw the stretch marks), and it turns out maybe B-cubs with large and long nips, 6 in looks, 9 in massage and 6 in service (see restrictions below).

She gave a great massage and very nice ass/ball/pole rub as my hands were wandering all about with no resistance. On the flip she went right for the tug with only my body language indicating my interest and with my hands roaming about I asked for fs and then oral but she would not allow either and said firmly that was agains their policy. I finally worked her tits out and sucked on the long nips for a good 10 min as she finished the first tug with my hands down her pants (so policy was then looking flexible).

I had gone for the hour, so she went back to the nice massage with face, neck, chest rub, then with 15 min left went back for tug #2 (nice, but not what I was there for). This time she really got into having her nips sucked and I got a hand down the pants, then pulled them all the way down and got some serious digits and it was obvious she was enjoying it immensely and was getting very wet for the 6 or 8 min that went on. I asked again for FS and she said no sex there, but in no way was she resisting my advances physically. I decided to push a bit further to see if I could get her worked up enough first with more digits and sucking and then I hopped up and pushed her back and offered some DATY that she very much enjoyed and by this time only slightly resisted.

As she was really enjoying it and grinding my face I pulled out a hat I had brought and again she would not go for FS, despite her immense enjoyment and wetness and he body being mostly nude. I got the sense I could have plowed ahead as her resistance was pretty weak and sort of like a GF who says yes with her eyes but no with low conviction. Still, I am not one to force myself upon a lady and despite rubbing jr. around her lips with very little resistance I stopped and allowed her to finish me with the tug and she smiled on my release.

At the end I asked if I came back if we could use the hat for fs and she weakly said no. I left sort of confused as she seemed to enjoy herself so much (the farthest mileage I have ever had without oral or FS) but I think there is maybe only a 20% chance of FS from her on a repeat. It was fun, but for 60 + 40 I probably would not repeat even for 2 tugs.

It is definitely worth it for the massage alone with the tug if that is enough for you. It also might be worth it for the more seasoned monger who enjoys a FS challenge, but for sure that will take some serious finesse or repeat visits that might be better spent elsewhere.

Blake 4
12-10-06, 16:00
11/27 I went to a recommended aromatherapy place in the west valley. There were no signs and when I went in they said they were closed, I think I spooked them. Went back on 12/1, Friday, and this time had a name. I asked if she was available and when the guy said yes, I asked how much for a half hour. He seemed nervous and said 40 for a half, so I paid him and was led to the back rooms, which looked like temp walls. In the room was a mattress on the floor with a chair next to it.

The girl walks in, 8 looks, 8 body, and tells me the usual no message/just aromatherapy. She has me get undressed, and since there was no towel or shorts, I left on boxers. She dabs a cotton and holds under my nose. I put my hand on her knee and start rubbing, getting no resistance, but also no green light to move on. She asks what I do, I tell her, and she asks if I am policia, to which my hand starts roaming and I say no. Then her hand starts roaming and when she makes contact, asks what I would like. Agree to 1 for everything, which was a very quick oral and cg, followed by mish. Although she cut my favorite parts short, she was good, so I'd rate a 7. I'll definitely go back.

Friendly Tiger
12-16-06, 10:28
Nice reports, gentlemen!!!

ReallyaNiceGuy
12-16-06, 19:31
. . . I had a great time with another new girl here.

Her name is Lisa. I got almost as much from her as I get from CeCe.


Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
12-16-06, 19:52
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But it's run by the same people as the other place. I saw a new ad with a new number and called right away. As I was getting the address I thought her voice sounded familiar so I asked, "Is this so and so." She laughed and said it was, I told here who I was and she said she would have a good girl waiting for me when I got there.

Her name is LuLu and I had a great time, a very pleasant experience with her.

As I was driving home I was thinking about it and it occurred to me that I did not get a BJ or DATY or anything like that. But OMG she was great, more like making love to a GF.

The other girl that was there was hot so I'll go back and see her.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
12-16-06, 19:58
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Well I went back to see the other girl but she wasn't there.

Spent a great time with this girl named Lisa.

So last night when I was downloading photos from my camera I noticed that this is the same Lisa from the other house. And I didn't even notice at the time.

Mike

Courtrat
12-18-06, 20:20
Looking for a AMP in SFV or Van Nuys preferably. Latinos wanted. Please PM me.

Courtrat
12-18-06, 20:22
11/27 I went to a recommended aromatherapy place in the west valley. There were no signs and when I went in they said they were closed, I think I spooked them. Went back on 12/1, Friday, and this time had a name. I asked if she was available and when the guy said yes, I asked how much for a half hour. He seemed nervous and said 40 for a half, so I paid him and was led to the back rooms, which looked like temp walls. In the room was a mattress on the floor with a chair next to it.

The girl walks in, 8 looks, 8 body, and tells me the usual no message/just aromatherapy. She has me get undressed, and since there was no towel or shorts, I left on boxers. She dabs a cotton and holds under my nose. I put my hand on her knee and start rubbing, getting no resistance, but also no green light to move on. She asks what I do, I tell her, and she asks if I am policia, to which my hand starts roaming and I say no. Then her hand starts roaming and when she makes contact, asks what I would like. Agree to 1 for everything, which was a very quick oral and cg, followed by mish. Although she cut my favorite parts short, she was good, so I'd rate a 7. I'll definitely go back.Please PM me for a location.

Thanks

Webcams
12-19-06, 09:01
Looking for a AMP in SFV or Van Nuys preferably. Latinos wanted. Please PM me.
I think you Meant Latinas, the term latinos is or MEN, latinas Is for Women.

Courtrat
12-19-06, 14:57
I think you Meant Latinas, the term latinos is or MEN, latinas Is for Women.My bad. Yes LatinAs. Sorry for the mistake.

LAGuy
12-19-06, 15:08
Hmm... Well, you never know what floats someone's boat ).


I think you Meant Latinas, the term latinos is or MEN, latinas Is for Women.

Webcams
12-20-06, 09:12
My bad. Yes LatinAs. Sorry for the mistake.
What is a Court Rat? Just curious as the paranoia in here is high.

SteveLee333
12-20-06, 18:22
I went for 2 girl rub down special this CAMP advertises on craigslist last Sunday. When I called I asked how old the girls were expecting a typical answer, come see etc. I was told there were twon in 20's and the rest were in 30's.

Well they were well in their 40's, not 20's. Nevertheless both girls, I mean ladies, did a decent job. I needed some hard massage but I wasn't going to get more than medium pressure rub from them So I let it go and just enojoyed 4 handed rubdown with oil. The usual stuff, rubbing, touching down under, flip and tug. Nothing special but was worth it for me. Tipped 40 each and left.

Courtrat
12-20-06, 19:13
What is a Court Rat? Just curious as the paranoia in here is high.FYI A courtrat is a person that keeps frequenting basketball courts.

ReallyaNiceGuy
12-23-06, 11:14
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I've been to this place, I think I may have recommended it, and it's always been good service.
However I heard a story on the radio this week about a bust of some people in Los Angeles that were smuggling girls in from Guatemala and making them work as prostitutes to pay off their fee.
I saw several girls here and the boss were all from Guatemala and lived in Los Angeles. Don't know if there is a connection or not but I'd call first to see it they are still open.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
12-23-06, 11:46
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I called her at her new place the other day and was on my way. But as I got close I got a call and was told that Lisa couldn't see me and she asked if Cherry would be OK, what the hell? I was almost there so I told her that would be fine.

Nice enough girl and a good massage but I went there for more. The most I could get was a HJ and it wasn't even that nice. I paid for 30 minutes and because she couldn't get me off I was running over. She asked if I wanted to stay longer and I told her she should have been able to finish me in 30 minutes so it was her fault I was going over and I wanted her to finish me and I wasn't going to pay more. I told her I've been a good customer for a long time and expect better service. She agreed and continued until I was done. Still wasn't a very good HJ.

As I was leaving I saw Lisa sitting on the couch and stopped to talk to her. She was happy to see me and we had some Chinese snacks as we talked. Tried to ask her why she didn't see me but kind of got the run around.

Bottom line, it feels like to me that these places, and there are several of them in the valley and I think I've been to them all, are legit and they mean it when they say in their ads "No Full Service".

I'm done with them. Just my 2 Cents.

Mike

Webcams
12-23-06, 12:14
FYI A courtrat is a person that keeps frequenting basketball courts.
Fair Enough, Just Asking, and no people will not simply chill out, they will continue to guard there best kept secrets simply because we have all seen the best places Poof into thin air. Always be suspicious is how a lot of people have become, just the way you have to be these days.

Courtrat
12-23-06, 18:31
Fair Enough, Just Asking, and no people will not simply chill out, they will continue to guard there best kept secrets simply because we have all seen the best places Poof into thin air. Always be suspicious is how a lot of people have become, just the way you have to be these days.Fully understand and I agree. These places are like gold and we fellow mongers need to stick together.

Webcams
12-26-06, 00:44
True Courtrat; I am of the opinion there are NO amps in the Valley, I know there are a few, but it is easier to try and get a s/w then deal with the no action today or I don't know you you might be LE so we will not do anything to the door is locked an nobody is home anymore. If I am way off base feel free to let me know, but for a few Asian places and I mean few to the 1 hit & miss Latina place it is pretty quiet on the Amp front. S/W scene did start to pick up, but that is hit and miss as well at least in the Valley.

There was a place that recently made the news and thanks to the good work of a caring monger a place got shut down, what part of, we will get you across the border for a FEE don't some people get? Thanks to that genius monger who freed those poor souls, that is one place less we have to go.

Courtrat
12-27-06, 17:41
True Courtrat; I am of the opinion there are NO amps in the Valley, I know there are a few, but it is easier to try and get a s/w then deal with the no action today or I don't know you you might be LE so we will not do anything to the door is locked an nobody is home anymore. If I am way off base feel free to let me know, but for a few Asian places and I mean few to the 1 hit & miss Latina place it is pretty quiet on the Amp front. S/W scene did start to pick up, but that is hit and miss as well at least in the Valley.

There was a place that recently made the news and thanks to the good work of a caring monger a place got shut down, what part of, we will get you across the border for a FEE don't some people get? Thanks to that genius monger who freed those poor souls, that is one place less we have to go.All the amps in the Valley got spooked. I don't know what caused it since I was not following the news in '04 or '05. Now they are all legit. I remember when you would drive down any of the big streets (i.e. Victory, Burbank, Oxnard, etc.) and you would see a bunch of them lined up. Those were the good ol' days. But I don't remember a Latina place. All were Asian.

Grebo Guru
12-27-06, 21:15
Last Monday I was feeling a little bored and lonely, (OK, read: HORNY!) and decided to go visit the infamous Ce Ce again. I call he special number, no answer. I keep driving there, arrive, ring the door... no answer. I'm completely bummed! I call up a buddy, and he gives me another # for the same place and finally someone answers. "Sorry, closed today." I hint, and hint, and hint, that I'm at the door is there anything to they can do, "Closed." So I'm standing there in the cold, my sack hung low, full, cold, and blue. I call up my bud again and we swap a few ideas, and he tells me of a new place with a Japanese girl he's seen before. I say WTF, and give a call. The phone rings, someone answers, they're open and they're open late. For stupid reasons that I can't even figure out, I end up going to a holiday party somewhere and going home afterwards. It's 20 of midnight and Mr Happy isn't very happy so I call back to the Japanese place to low and behold, they're still open! I jump in the car and head on over. My Happy is anxious and ready to go, I thought I was driving a stick instead of an automatic!

I arrive at the place, nice place, not far from Fry's. Suki, the girl my bud had been with, had already left. Sandy was the girl that was still there holding down the fort and waiting for me. She was about 5'2", 115 lbs, freckles, dark skinned Japanese, middle-aged. Sandy led me to a bedroom, offered for me to take a shower, and told me about three times to lay face down on the bed. Then she took off to give me that get-naked-now time. I passed on the shower but heard water running in another room so I knew she was cleaning up. I got naked and waited on the bed face up with Mr Happy pointing at the sky. She came back with something light and flimsy on. A minute or two later it was and she carassing me up and down. She switched to be down by my feet and played with Mr Happy some. Next it was a little lick session and the old condom-in-the-mouth trick to cover Mr Happy and keep him from having too much fun. I tried to talk her out of the CBJ and into a BBBJ but no such luck. She sucked for awhile and then crawled up me to get on top to do some cowgirl. It wasn't too enthusiastic and it was obvious she was tired and wanting to go home. So I flipped her over and did some doggy. I'll tell you the sight of that ass was beautiful! I really love a nice small ass where you don't have to spread the cheeks much to see the in-n-out action. I went nice and easy and enjoyed the Mr Happy massage there. No backdoor action tried, just a beautiful ass with a tight pussy. I pulled out before Mr Happy could spit and got her on her back for some mish. Her legs were nice and pliable, I put them up on my chest and plowed in. It really was a beautifully tight puss that I didn't expect. I kept going and going and proably leaned on her a little too much as she made a few winces. (I'm a big fat guy!) Again it was obvious that she was in a rush to go home. I knew it was late and I was being accomodated to, so I quit holding back...let the juices flow! She got the hot towel. I cleaned up. Said good bye and got lost trying to find the right parking lot on the way out! Overall, what I needed, but a GFE is much more pleasureable and emotionally fulfilling. LOCATION: 9/10, FACE: 5/10, BODY: 7/10, ATTITUDE: 6/10, VALUE: 5/10

ReallyaNiceGuy
12-28-06, 10:55
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I had another fantastic session with Cece yesterday. She came once from DATY, once from 69 and twice from mish while I just held on for the ride.

Total GFE with some nasty stuff. She is such a great gal.

Mike

I got more photos and a couple of videos but to much for here.

FedEx
12-29-06, 22:24
Hey Mike,

Did you see her in the afternoon? If yes, I beat you to her this time... LOL

Due to the holidays, I can't get enough time off from the family to go to my fav SGV places, so I went to see Cece yesterday. Called at 11:45 and asked to see her at 12:15, but was told that 12:30 was a better option. Fine.

Got there right on time and rang the bell at the gate. Nothing! 5 minutes of phone calls & bell ringing got me same result. I really got pissed, because I was on my lunch break. After what seemed forever, someone buzzed me in.

Cece let me in and in to the shower I went. She told me that she was getting fingerprinted in Rosemead (hopefully for a green card application and not for a plea bargain...LOL), when she got the call for the 12:30 appointment, so she drove fast to get to the apartment.

It was my second time with her and I don't think I will see her again. She is very sweet, very eager to please and has a great body for a late 30's gal. But I don't like shaved kittens, she like to get banged really hard (she popped 3 times during mish), while I like it slower and more sensual and yesterday she had bad breath from eating some garlic/onion combination of something. I usually don't mind (years of KAMP with Kimchee smell will cure you...), but it really turned me off.

All-in-all she's a good value, gfe with great attitude, but I think I will leave her for Mike...

Happy new year to y'all!

Fedex


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I had another fantastic session with Cece yesterday. She came once from DATY, once from 69 and twice from mish while I just held on for the ride.

Total GFE with some nasty stuff. She is such a great gal.

Mike

I got more photos and a couple of videos but to much for here.

Grebo Guru
12-30-06, 18:03
Hey, I feel like I'm posting out of order since ReallyANiceGuy saw Ce Ce Wed, I saw her Thursday, and Fedex saw her Friday. So the posts should go in that order! OK, I'm slow to post, oh well.

I was on the way to the Ce Ce's place on Thursday. I was kind of excited by RANG's post saying that she was the only one there the last few times he went and I thought maybe I could get away with a VERY long time if there was no one else to be the wiser. Unfortunately, there were no other girls to google at but there was some sort of uneseen boss to deliver the money to. (I don't think it would be a ruse as she's just not that type.)

So I picked her up and lifted her in the air a little playfully. Went through a quick "How are you?" and "You're a good man." convo. Did a quick pee and wipe while she freshened up, then straight to the DATY. Yum. *I* love a clean shaved beaver. Best fresh meat in the world is a clean shaved beaver. And I love a girl who has hanging vaginal lips! I don't like girls that just have a wet slit and all the goodies are hidden inside. I want to see some dangling pootang lips! That excites me. Ce Ce is one of those girls that works for me physically that way. I see those babies and I just have to go at them! So she moned a bit and I hovered a few inches off the bet, pole-volting if you will. Enjoyed that for a while and then she wanted to be more then just a receiver, so to the old gemini sign we went. Well, that's great, the best of both worlds. But I had some alternative plans as well. I tryed to con her into a few pictures. So i whip out the old camara (Why not? Everything else is whipped out and frothy!) and she was cool with it as long as there was no face involved. I put on my infamous charm that always works with pros but never normal girls - and a little tad bit of video I got. You know, just something to JO to later for memories sake. She was OK with a few minutes of it, but was definately uncomfortable with it. So just a little of half and half I got on vid. Mike knows that's my thing. I like to have my collection of vids. I'd almost do anything if I can film it. Almost! (Come on Mike - we need to do another TJ trip!) Back to the action: So we do some mish, and into the slow calm rhythmic thing watching my chubby go in and out. I'm watching my head go in and push them gapers back a bit to make them inside out then pull them back out as they velvetly slide across my member and BANG! I'm done. Good times by all. Though she didn't lick my asshole this time. No big deal. I came. I conqured. I CAME!

Grebo Guru
12-30-06, 18:20
OK, to change the subject.

Everyone knows someone who has told them about this ring of Hungarian girls in the area. But every time I get a number or a leed, it turns into a dead end. Is anyone out there banging these girls? Any comments? Can you PM me some phone numbers!

Also, there was a Russian ring of pros about two years ago that got busted. Not that I've heard anything, but I'm sure they're back. Anyone got any leads?

I'm going to go post some CL adds in the classified ads section requesting info on some of those girls.


-GG

ReallyaNiceGuy
01-01-07, 14:26
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I was reading the LA Weekly, thanks for the copy Rob, and saw a place kind of close to my house so I thought I'd give it a try.

Regular business location in a strip mall on a major street. Rate was $50/30 minutes, 70/1hr. I paid for 30 minutes but told the lady that if the service was good I'd stay for an hour. I ended up staying for the hour but only for the massage, it was that good She used her hands, arms, elbows and back walking, haven't had that since Thailand. Her name was Jenny, works Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday, when I saw her.

Beyond that nothing but a HJ. I got to touch her a little but she wouldn't let me remove any of her clothes and didn't offer any other services. At least she was nice, younger, cute and thin. A nice change from the Chinese places around.

There are like 8 other places listed in North Hollywood that I think I might try.

Anybody got any info these places? If you do please let me know.

Thanks,

Mike

Courtrat
01-08-07, 14:11
Went there a couple of days ago. No extras. Just good message. Very clean and nice K-girls. All the rooms have windows on the doors, I guess so that they seem legit.
If you want to have a good message go there but don't expect much else.

I am still longing for those AMP's that just cut to the chase.

Vlad De Sade
01-09-07, 04:13
Mongers,

Happy New Year!

Now, for a quick rant...

My old friend, Grebo Guru, Ssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Quiet... This is the last incall Kamp in da valley!!! Those of us who were called by Yuki herself or who have a good friend, like YOU did, take us need to remain quiet, calm & humble. And very, very, very thankful that we got in.

I repeat this is a closed circle. No newbies. Period!

I will not rehash the losses we as a community of experienced mongers in da SFV have endured relentlessly since Oct 2002...

LE is regulating our hobby into either of two places: the grave or the shadows. LE has shut down no less than 35 KAMPS since the fall of '04.

In plain english their are no real KAMPS left operating above the radar in da SFV. Believe me if they were I'd be there everyday.

Alas, our game is only operating in the shadowy world of moving incall setups. An old but proven method of prostituting on the down lo. A private residence is the last vestige of safety that a real KAMP can operate under. Anybody remember the fun at China Doll house off of Roscoe & Vanalden. Thats the way to do it IMHO! The public domain is no more. Go to another valley if YOU want to enter a public massage parlor and leave w/a happy ending. That s**t is over in da valley.

Okay, my brothers. Keep it discreet, vauge and dont give it away!!!

Only, we can destroy what LE has missed. Lets savor this. And KEEP IT OFF THE RADAR!!! I dont care if this thread is the quietest on the entire sex guide. We are a long way from safe, happy and brave mongering in da SFV. We gotta be smarter than da man and never let ego get in the way of the reality. We are at war w/LE. And they have been kicking our ASS for more than 2 straight years now.

Lets hope 2007 brings some tolerance back to our hobby...

Webcams, the old Lankershiem track when I trolled it from 1997-2000 stretched from Burbank all the way north to the 5 freeway past Roscoe. The apartments on the east side of L between Sherman way & Saticoy were always a reliable place to find a Latina mommy who needed more $$$, or a teenaged latina being pimped or just rouge girls working this rather sleezy track. Remember this is gangland........... Dont be stupid. Pretend YOU are mongering on Glenoaks in Pacoima & YOU will be fine! Dude, PM me & get off the streets & into an apt situation. The fun starts at $160 per hr...

Peace, V da Sadist

Webcams
01-09-07, 14:48
Why Keep it off the radar, aren't these places public? Doesn't Everyone Know about them?

No, No, No, & No, if anyone remembers the days of 25+ good quality AMPS, you know why it is important to keep them off the radar, I will go a step further and say don't share Intel with ANYONE who you haven't shared Intel with before and has given you the location of at least one hidden gem, You never know who is on the other end of that PM, Call us Paranoid, but LE has a huge unending budget to fight our hobby, and they also have Millions of ordinary citizens who drop dimes everyday, that is why it is so important to be discreet park a block away from the location, don't make any noise blend into the place you are going into, don't draw attention to yourself, traffic parking problems and high traffic are what bring these places down people on the outside don't know what is going on they might think it is a drug house and call the cops, Parking is one of the main issues that bring these places down, when shop owners couldn't park in front of there business, and mongers filled up there Lot's that made many people mad so they called the cops, place is shut down they have there spots back.

Whatever the reason, keep the down low places just that on the down low. If not it too will be a memory Like Topanga and many of the other places who are no more.

Zlmmm
01-13-07, 15:18
I called to see if Cece was available this morning and was told she wasn't working there any more. Possibly this was just a ruse to get me there with another gal, but I do seem to recall she had said she was going to work in a restaurant in Winter (at the time I was thinking Feb or March for some reason). Still, papa san said he had a brand new girl I should try, Nina and she was better than Lulu who also was not there any more.

I was certainly in the mood and the location is the most convenient for me so I decided to head over and TOFTT and am pretty glad I did.

Nina is completely FOB as she said she just arrived this morning into LA at 5AM, via a 1 day stopover in Hawaii. I was probably her first customer unless someone else got there before normal opening hours. Normally I would avoid one so new to the biz but although she seemed a bit shy, she exhuded a confidence in her role I found impressive.

Nina is cute, has a tight young mid-20s body (she says 25) with small B-cups or larger As and a fine, fine ass. She is a friendly girl and speaks pretty good English she says she learned in school.

On a side note when I asked it her journey here was scary she said not at all. She said she only had 1 friend here, but she seemed confident and upbeat about it (I did not get too deep into motivations but was happy to hear she was not mistreated along the way or anything).

After a shower and passable but average massage we got to the good stuff. CBJ, 69, ACG, RCG, Doggie to finish. When we were into the main event I had to change positions 3 times in 10 min to keep from blowing and even then that tight body made me finish in less than half the time I am used to.

She opted for covered everything in quoting the policy of the place. She was very responsive to my dining during 69 and it seemed quite enjoyable and perhaps a bit new to her but not entirely unknown (she moved into position fairly easily). The CBJ was pretty good also, possibly because she was so into the 69. She did some acting during doggie (again a surprise for someone so new), but also seemed to show some enjoyment. After I asked for and received some additional lite massage (she showed her newness because she did not move to remove the cover until after the massage and made a face when doing that but then she knew just how to dispose (again a strage mix of inexperience and knowledge).

She let me take a couple of faceless pics at the end (one even of the kitty) but I doubt even RNG can sweet talk anything more naughty (possibly given time). I'll try to post the pics next week but have to take off now.

She is a cutie and with some further experience should only get better. She is sweet so treat her nice.


Looks (face): 7
Looks (body): 8
Attitude: 7 (very friendly but more restrictions than the veterans there)
Personality Tilt: 8
Service: 7 (I expect she'll get better with some more experience)
Value: 7
Overall: 7.4

FedEx
01-14-07, 02:16
Zimm,

Great report - Kudos to you for the TOFTT and for the details provided.

Just 2 quick questions:

Did she DFK?
Is her kitty shaved / trimmed / natural?

Thanks,
Fedex



I called to see if Cece was available this morning and was told she wasn't working there any more. Possibly this was just a ruse to get me there with another gal, but I do seem to recall she had said she was going to work in a restaurant in Winter (at the time I was thinking Feb or March for some reason). Still, papa san said he had a brand new girl I should try, Nina and she was better than Lulu who also was not there any more.

I was certainly in the mood and the location is the most convenient for me so I decided to head over and TOFTT and am pretty glad I did.

Nina is completely FOB as she said she just arrived this morning into LA at 5AM, via a 1 day stopover in Hawaii. I was probably her first customer unless someone else got there before normal opening hours. Normally I would avoid one so new to the biz but although she seemed a bit shy, she exhuded a confidence in her role I found impressive.

Nina is cute, has a tight young mid-20s body (she says 25) with small B-cups or larger As and a fine, fine ass. She is a friendly girl and speaks pretty good English she says she learned in school.

On a side note when I asked it her journey here was scary she said not at all. She said she only had 1 friend here, but she seemed confident and upbeat about it (I did not get too deep into motivations but was happy to hear she was not mistreated along the way or anything).

After a shower and passable but average massage we got to the good stuff. CBJ, 69, ACG, RCG, Doggie to finish. When we were into the main event I had to change positions 3 times in 10 min to keep from blowing and even then that tight body made me finish in less than half the time I am used to.

She opted for covered everything in quoting the policy of the place. She was very responsive to my dining during 69 and it seemed quite enjoyable and perhaps a bit new to her but not entirely unknown (she moved into position fairly easily). The CBJ was pretty good also, possibly because she was so into the 69. She did some acting during doggie (again a surprise for someone so new), but also seemed to show some enjoyment. After I asked for and received some additional lite massage (she showed her newness because she did not move to remove the cover until after the massage and made a face when doing that but then she knew just how to dispose (again a strage mix of inexperience and knowledge).

She let me take a couple of faceless pics at the end (one even of the kitty) but I doubt even RNG can sweet talk anything more naughty (possibly given time). I'll try to post the pics next week but have to take off now.

She is a cutie and with some further experience should only get better. She is sweet so treat her nice.


Looks (face): 7
Looks (body): 8
Attitude: 7 (very friendly but more restrictions than the veterans there)
Personality Tilt: 8
Service: 7 (I expect she'll get better with some more experience)
Value: 7
Overall: 7.4

Zlmmm
01-15-07, 01:14
Oh yeah,

I meant to say very very LFK only, but I imagine this will improve with time or maybe repeats.

She is also nicely shaved (some stubble showed she was not entirely new to shaving).


Zimm,

Great report - Kudos to you for the TOFTT and for the details provided.

Just 2 quick questions:

Did she DFK?
Is her kitty shaved / trimmed / natural?

Thanks,
Fedex

ReallyaNiceGuy
01-15-07, 01:19
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I agree with Vlad De Sade and Webcams that we do need to keep good ones quiet and only share with members we know or have exchanged info with.

And just so you know Grebo Guru is a personal and business friend of mine. We've know each other for a long time, meet up several times for drinks and hanging out and we've gone to TJ together. Although he doesn't have a lot of post he's OK and I trust him.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
01-15-07, 01:29
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I can't believe nobody gave me any info about any of these places. So on my way to the Burbank Airport last Thursday I picked one to try.

Nice enough place, clean, Chinese lady, late 30's, nice body, friendly but no touching. So-so massage with a little ass play and a good HJ without even asking. 40 for 30 minutes, she wanted 60 tip but got out for 40.

2 down, 14 to go.

Mike

Hunter360
01-17-07, 18:27
Probably a question asked a million times before but I can't find the answer.

How much should I tip if I just want a legit massage?

FedEx
01-17-07, 21:58
Hey Mike,

I told you that the SFV is just a collection of old Chinese HJ factories... If you get a BJ or get laid, it's always rush and they want too much money for their looks and age.

You want better? You got to take your game to Hollywood, West Hollywood, Santa Monica, SGV and Oxnard. The valley is dead since late 2004.

Oh, well...

Happy hunting,
Fedex



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I can't believe nobody gave me any info about any of these places. So on my way to the Burbank Airport last Thursday I picked one to try.

Nice enough place, clean, Chinese lady, late 30's, nice body, friendly but no touching. So-so massage with a little ass play and a good HJ without even asking. 40 for 30 minutes, she wanted 60 tip but got out for 40.

2 down, 14 to go.

Mike

Zlmmm
01-18-07, 13:25
Here are the 3 faceless photos of Nina I mentioned last weekend.

She wouldn't let me shoot anything more risque but I was actually pleasantly surprised she even allowed me to shoot the kitty (given her youth and newness). She has a big mole on her right butt cheek that she is very shy about as well...


Oh yeah,

I meant to say very very LFK only, but I imagine this will improve with time or maybe repeats.

She is also nicely shaved (some stubble showed she was not entirely new to shaving).

Sam31
01-18-07, 22:36
Zimmm,

Wow you are lucky to have got this girl fresh. She is hot. Like the stubble on her cooch. Is this place of topanga?

Yodaman
01-19-07, 11:55
I rairly get up to the SFV, being closer to the IE, SGV and OC, So most of my reading, posting and hobbying is naturally in those areas.

I really want to compliment you guys...I just started reading your posts out of curiosity. I am impressed with the ability of some of you (Reallyaniceguy, Zimm etc) to get such quality pics of AMP providers. You guys must be smooth as glass! To be able to get these lovley girls to trust you enough to allow you to take their pics is amazing to me. I have seen pics on other areas (mostly SW's) that are taken with Cell phone cams, but you guys take such clear pics I have actually spent time scanning your posts just to see your shots!

PROPS to you guys!!
Yoda...out!

ReallyaNiceGuy
01-21-07, 08:52
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I tried another one on the list and got a winner.

And it was easy, I got a little BBBJ, CBJ, 69, CG, mesh, finished doggie.

40 for 30 minutes, tip, she wanted 150 gave 120.

I'll keep this one to myself.

That 3 down.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
01-23-07, 09:10
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I stopped in a 2 other places, both Chinese, and left because they were old women. And they looked to professional, Dr. so-and-so acupuncture/weight-loss/phiscial therapy, etc.

Went into an Aromatherapy place with an Asian name and the guy at the front desk was Mexican. Led to a room, didn't see any girls but I heard them talking in Spanish. The woman that came in was Latina. Problem was she was old, fat and ugly. I wouldn't do that with your dick. Talked for 30 minutes and left. On the way out I did see 2 other little, cute young Latina girls, may try again sometime.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
01-25-07, 23:11
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Not sure how many of you get to downtown Los Angeles but thought you might be interested.

I don't get to downtown Los Angeles very often but I saw a post, in the SFV listings, for a girl named Lily that sounded great to me.

She was 26 years old, very sweet, really cute and she had a great body.
Great massage and even greater FS.

I went with the 30 minutes section and there was no clock watching at all, from shower to exit was 50 minutes. I'll admit it's a bit expensive but it sure was worth it to me.

She said she was going to have a girlfriend from NY coming to visit next week and assured me I'd love her and invited me to come back. Maybe I will.

Mike
PS, I'm not comfortable posting her number so I deleted it. If you want info PM me.

160 donation/half hour
200 donation/hour

Business hours: 10AM - 10PM

What you see is what you gonna get

ReallyaNiceGuy
01-26-07, 01:17
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Was she a good F***? NO!

I hate posting a bad review because I like then at that place and want them to stay around. But I've talked to another guy and he had about the same experience so I feel that I need to do this.

I saw Nina on her 5th day here, about a week ago, and while she was nice and sweet and cute and all she wasn't a good F*** for me. As a matter of fact I couldn't even F*** her because she couldn't take any more than about 2 inches and I'm not even that big around. She whined and moaned that it hurt too much. She then asked if she could finish me with her hand. I told her no and told her to use her mouth which she did. But that wasn't good either. Her teeth tore the condom and cut my dick enough that it was bleeding.

I keep thinking that I'm going to call them and complain.

Damn I miss CeCe!

Mike

Richard More
02-01-07, 03:45
It might be my first post here but I am not a newbie. In my adventures of the SFV I found nothing but CAMP places now. Everyone seems to be early 40's, and a little saggy. Most places offer only HJ. I did find a nice Topanga spot also with FS but the ladies were also in there late 30's early 40's. They were nice though. I also found FS in Panorama City at an old location that closed down years ago but is now open again. Not Camp but KAMP but not quality material. I am looking for latinas now but seems like I will have to go to LAX for that. I will keep you guys informed on any exciting findings I do find.

FedEx
02-02-07, 22:11
Richard,

The valley is dead. The funeral was held in late 2004.

Yes you can get FS from some old C or K girls, but who wants that?

The Panorama City place you refer to used to be my main place of activity (I should say my ONLY place of activity) between 1998 and 2001, but when the service started to decline, I moved west and had an amazing time at 2 Chatsworth locations.

I am not big on Latinas (except when I go to TJ once in a couple of years), so I can't help you on that, but hot young K girls can be found in SM, Hollywood and West Hollywood KAMPS - IMHO.

Peace,
Fedex



It might be my first post here but I am not a newbie. In my adventures of the SFV I found nothing but CAMP places now. Everyone seems to be early 40's, and a little saggy. Most places offer only HJ. I did find a nice Topanga spot also with FS but the ladies were also in there late 30's early 40's. They were nice though. I also found FS in Panorama City at an old location that closed down years ago but is now open again. Not Camp but KAMP but not quality material. I am looking for latinas now but seems like I will have to go to LAX for that. I will keep you guys informed on any exciting findings I do find.

The Gr818
02-16-07, 22:02
Ah, that use to be my place too. That was the first amp I ever been to. I drove by there the other day actually thought about visiting at some point. But by judging from what everybody says about the valley. I shouldn't expect much. It sucks because I need a place thats here in the Valley. I don't have the liberty to drive to the other side of L.A. at random.


Richard,

The valley is dead. The funeral was held in late 2004.

Yes you can get FS from some old C or K girls, but who wants that?

The Panorama City place you refer to used to be my main place of activity (I should say my ONLY place of activity) between 1998 and 2001, but when the service started to decline, I moved west and had an amazing time at 2 Chatsworth locations.

I am not big on Latinas (except when I go to TJ once in a couple of years), so I can't help you on that, but hot young K girls can be found in SM, Hollywood and West Hollywood KAMPS - IMHO.

Peace,

Fedex

The Gr818
02-16-07, 22:08
Ah, the Panorama city spot. This was the first AMP I went to. I drove by there not to long ago and thought about visiting at some point. Judging but what is said here I shouldn't expect much. It sucks because I need something close by. I don't have the liberty to drive to across L.A. at random.


Richard,

The Panorama City place you refer to used to be my main place of activity (I should say my ONLY place of activity) between 1998 and 2001, but when the service started to decline, I moved west and had an amazing time at 2 Chatsworth locations.

Fedex

Webcams
02-17-07, 04:28
Ah, the Panorama city spot. This was the first AMP I went to. I drove by there not to long ago and thought about visiting at some point. Judging but what is said here I shouldn't expect much. It sucks because I need something close by. I don't have the liberty to drive to across L.A. at random.
Was this the amp with the one Asian lady working with huge hard bolt-on's ? I think we all fucked her over the years. West SFV had good quality after that then there were amps everywhere, now we have none.

The Gr818
02-19-07, 21:05
Was this the amp with the one Asian lady working with huge hard bolt-on's ? I think we all fucked her over the years. West SFV had good quality after that then there were amps everywhere, now we have none.I'm not sure as there were a few k girls there. I went there a few times circa 98-99. I stopped messing with Amps alltogether around 2000 because I was living by myself and I had to hold that down with the little cash I got. Now that I have disposable income, I found this place to get back into the scene, but I guess its a wasteland now.

Vlad De Sade
02-22-07, 04:16
818,

Do yourself a favor. Save up that disposable income for 12 months. Then get a travel agent and go to LOS for 10 days of heaven on earth. Or if YOU fancy latinas go to Costa Rica....

Either way the SFV KAMP scene is dead. Has been for years. My last favorite place shut its fabled doors Oct 2004!

Or just fill the gas tank and drive out of the valley. Go to SM, Inglehood, Hollywierd, SGV, or West LA. Its all good. We just gotta work a little harder for the sweet tang nowadays.

F**king Los Angeles. I miss the 1990's. My mongering salad days. When I could still buy an AK-47, hit 40 different Kamps & find KINE herb for $50 an 1/8th right here in da SFV...

Peace, V da Sadist

Baldy Cruiser
02-22-07, 12:08
818,
Do yourself a favor. Save up that disposable income for 12 months. Then get a travel agent and go to LOS for 10 days of heaven on earth. Or if YOU fancy latinas go to Costa Rica....
Either way the SFV KAMP scene is dead. Has been for years. My last favorite place shut its fabled doors Oct 2004!
Or just fill the gas tank and drive out of the valley. Go to SM, Inglehood, Hollywierd, SGV, or West LA. Its all good. We just gotta work a little harder for the sweet tang nowadays.
F**king Los Angeles. I miss the 1990's. My mongering salad days. When I could still buy an AK-47, hit 40 different Kamps & find KINE herb for $50 an 1/8th right here in da SFV...

Peace, V da Sadist

You sex starved Valleyites. You want a good roll in the hay with a great black chick -36 DD's & great service!!! $100 FS with no rush. She is 24. Advertises in Eros as Kris. See my CL post:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2717

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/ers/282395561.html

BALDY CRUISER - (pm me for her digits.)

Vlad De Sade
02-22-07, 13:56
BC,

My old friend. YOU are truly a man of mercy. I can't even find a decent BSW on SB lately. I would love to make a new friend so close to home. Thats all of a 15 min drive for me from Chatsworth to Sherman Oaks w/out traffic!

I wish I had something for YOU. If YOU get stuck in da valley I got a KAMP incall, the only one left, thats great.

Peace, V da Sadist

P.S. YOU ever see the legendary Coco anymore? Damn, that fine Ethiopian ass was off da hook TIGHT!

Hos Def
02-22-07, 19:03
I'm stuck in the valley for the weekend. I usually go to SM or Inglewwod, I need to find a "gem" in the valley. I would like FS but will settle for a good HJ.

Any suggestions?

Vlad De Sade
02-23-07, 02:22
Brother,

Go get an LA express and take a risk...

Oaks therapy in Sherman Oaks is a total ROB. However, they will tug your little friend for like $150! Ouch!!!

If YOU go try and splatt Coffee or Tina in the face w/a monster load of JIZZ. I hate those ROB Kgirl b**ches!

I say get a porno, a mogazine, a bottle of lotion and a ten min phone sex call and call it all good. In da valley YOU gotta spank it yourself the last couple of years. Unless, YOU are lucky enough to know which places will jerk, suck & f**k your brains out...

Good luck newbie.

Peace, V da Sadist

Webcams
02-23-07, 05:22
Unless, YOU are lucky enough to know which places will jerk, suck & f**k your brains out...

Good luck newbie.


Hell I don't even know which places do the dead, and I use to know every place.

Hos Def
02-23-07, 13:15
Hey, I just went to a place in the valley yesterday that offered fs. Place was shady and hard to find, but once I got in it was ok. Girl looked kinda young late 20 early 30 with a petite body.

It was 4 for the rub, then on the flip I rubbed her a little got no resistance she asked if I wanted HJ, I jestured for a BJ she said ok. She then asked me if I wanted everything, I only had 6 she wouldn't budge on the price, so she finished me with a cbj. Overall not bad, besides the place being run down I think I would go back.

Service 5/10
Face 5/10
Body 7/10
Location 3/10

Spank Me
02-28-07, 05:55
Technically, this is LA county, as it's over the line from Ventura County, so I'll post here. Noticed an ad in the VC Reporter for the old place on Lindero (across from Costco), but advertising "sweet girls" and free table shower. hmmmm. maybe things have changed...so I thought I'd check it out. Wow, got a nice new gal, she's only been here less than a month, but very willing and horney (at least with me). I think I ended up overstaying the hour I had arranged ;-) Pretty good in the looks department, although I'd have to peg the age 30ish, but no complaints from me, and definitely NOT an old hag. A definite 7.5 IMHO. Decent hard massage, and some teasing, then playing on the flip, heavy petting, 69, and somehow I ran out of time just doing that. oh well, I'll be back! dind't have the funds to stay longer. Do'h!! Oh, and it's fun to teach her english too. She's very interested to expand her volcabulary! LOL

Conejo Joe
03-03-07, 19:48
I also tried it recently. I got a pretty good massage, the kind where she stands on you and hangs on to the bars on the ceiling. I was impressed, she was actually good at it.

She was late 30's, 6-7 range. Let me play with her breasts after some coaxing, decent HJ. .5/.4 for 30 min.


Technically, this is LA county, as it's over the line from Ventura County, so I'll post here. Noticed an ad in the VC Reporter for the old place on Lindero (across from Costco), but advertising "sweet girls" and free table shower. hmmmm. maybe things have changed...so I thought I'd check it out. Wow, got a nice new gal, she's only been here less than a month, but very willing and horney (at least with me). I think I ended up overstaying the hour I had arranged ;-) Pretty good in the looks department, although I'd have to peg the age 30ish, but no complaints from me, and definitely NOT an old hag. A definite 7.5 IMHO. Decent hard massage, and some teasing, then playing on the flip, heavy petting, 69, and somehow I ran out of time just doing that. oh well, I'll be back! dind't have the funds to stay longer. Do'h!! Oh, and it's fun to teach her english too. She's very interested to expand her volcabulary! LOL

ReallyaNiceGuy
03-06-07, 01:58
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On a whim I stopped at this place and got a firecracker and a sweetheart all rolled in one.
Very cautious about the sex part but once she was comfortable it was off to the races. CBJ, FS, several positions, she loved it hard, she put her hand over her mouth to keep her noises down.
Chinese, 29, about 5' 4" and 110, not much in the boob department but a great ass and cute too.

She is only a short timer and only going to be there a week or so.

This is a legit place so I'm not going to post the info. PM me if you want it.

50 for 30 minutes / 120 tip

Mike

Richard More
03-06-07, 23:40
Found a spot in the SFV on Roscoe and De Soto.

Small place had a latina girl about 21 years old. Little thick but not too thick. Natural firm tits. Cute face. Place is an aroma therapy place so no massage. Just let them know why you are there and let your hands do the talking.

40 at the door.

100 tip.

I will try other spots in the valley and report my findings.

ReallyaNiceGuy
03-17-07, 00:28
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About a month ago, sorry for the delay, I hit this new place within a few days of their first post on CL to check it out.

Interesting thing was I got a Japanese girl!
Massage was OK. On the flip she rubbed me hard and offered a HJ. Told her I wanted more and pointed to her mouth, she said no so I pointed to her Pu**y and she asked if I had a condom. I told her I did, she said 100, I got up to get it from my pocket. Oh no, I didn't have one on my!

She said next time and finished me with the HJ.

I asked to take her picture and she said OK but wanted me to take it outside.

40/40

Haven't had the time to go back so have no idea what the status of the place is.

Mike
RaNG

Vlad De Sade
03-20-07, 12:00
RM,

Newbie, please we dont need any help!

Seriously, a place like Esmeraldas has been operating under the radar for more than 3 yrs straight. They do not need our help w/advertising.

In fact, anyplace YOU might actually get laid at is a place we dont need to be reading about here. Understood?

We have nothing left except for a few places like the one YOU decided to post about operating anywhere in the SFV. Period!

I empathize w/the fact that the scene is dead in our vallley. So a new guy may wanna bring the fire & exploits. It makes sense.

However, unless YOU post discreetly like RNG, he doesnt even mention streets on the board, then stay away...

Posting of any kind on this thread that is overt & graphic is just going to set us all back even more. LAPD knows they beat us up in the valley since summer of '04. Yet, they still persist in closing down new "real places" w/in weeks of opening. We do not need to help LE destroy our hobby. They seem to have it handled all by themselves.

Keep it off the board. PM the good S**T! And monger in another valley if ya wanna post tall tales of all your exploits. Sadly, this is not the place to do that anymore...

Peace, V da Sadist