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Mustang3
03-05-21, 21:46
I wouldn't worry about bio too much the owner is on the up and up. She isn't like that. Just pay cash if your worried.


Went to bio the past week but noticed this stuff before.

They definitely write down your credit / card information which is annoying but easy to handle by cancelling and making new cards. Only thing worries me is if they get busted and sell the info out or something I can't imagine with the info.

Am just freaking out? What you think?

July1714
03-05-21, 22:03
What are everyone's thought on recording during massage and uploading?

July1714
03-05-21, 23:45
I came to get my cut next to new moon and as I was driving past it around 7. 43 pm cops were all around the front of the place with people on the curb. Place was raided. Unless there was another thing going on but that was the only business open. Hopefully this is approved fast incase anyone was planning on going here tonight.

BenderOver
03-06-21, 01:23
Can anyone here posts a picture of Bailey and Emily looks like?For real? Best way to describe Bailey is round face, jacked up teeth, the rest is not memorable. Probably a 6. 5 at best. Body isn't superb nor young. Could lose 10 to 15 pounds. Asian middle aged MILF shape.

CBJ cfs using extra thin. Not much to the GFE and zero for pse. Massage wasn't memorable either.

She's been at the Bolsa location lately. I think the Brook location must have the younger prettier ones. That locale has been closed most of pandemic, or I'm the dummy checking the front door not knowing that the back door is where the open sign is. (the lobby in front looks totally closed).

Haven't seen Emily before.

Seen Summer, she's not attractive and the service was worse than Bailey's.

WhoreMaster 91
03-06-21, 06:44
Here are all the places that I've been to, or heard of that do manscaping with HJ:

Barberwaxingqueen. Reported a ton on here, IG tag is barberwaxingqueen714, but that's probably the chick you've mentioned in your post. Last I heard she wasn't taking in new clients, and when I tried to call her near the end of last year she didn't respond. But I heard for value and for service she's the best one in the area, if you can get an appointment with her.

All Seasons Day Spa. Haven't been here in a long long time, don't even know if the usual estheticians Nancy and Amy are working here still, but this place is known for giving HJs and I'm sure if you manage to get a wax here you'll get a HJ if you just ask. I haven't gotten a HJ post wax but I have gotten one post massage from Yvonne, who I don't recommend. Nancy and Amy are more on the MILF side, and the info I have here predates Covid. I would call and ask if wax is available if anyone's interested before stopping by.

Vy Massage. I got the cheapest wax here, $40 from the attractive MILF who I'm sure no longer works here, I heard from another girl, a former worker that they changed owners. They went from not legit to legit back to not legit, so at the very least if you stop by you'll get a HJ. I know for a fact a girl that regularly offers FS works here, so this may be a FS spot now. Not sure if they offer wax, like All Seasons Day Spa I would call before stopping by. Number on Google is the new number, don't use the one on Yelp.

TLC Day Spa. I think this might be my favorite spot for waxing now. The people who do wax here are Tanya and Tiffany, and Tiffany now goes by Lily apparently. Tanya is older and I would never want to get waxed or massaged by her, but I heard from the girls who work here that she's really nice. Tiffany the first two times I got waxed there was no fun after even though I was sure she does HJ, she was a cute albeit chubby mid 20's Viet, but the most recent time I saw her I actually thought she looked extremely attractive. She lost a lot of weight, and her body looks really great now, I was really happy to see her looking a lot better. Wax wise she was attentive as always, she made sure everything was smooth down there and really spent a lot of time making sure everything was too my liking. Near the end she said finished, but I asked her for more lotion to be applied, and she got the hint, applied some oil and stroked my cock until it got hard, then bluntly asked if I wanted hand. I say yeah, she giggles, then she starts the fun as I'm able to lift up her shirt and kiss her big breasts to completion. Tipped only $50, price of wax was $60, for guys who want a good wax even without any fun after I recommend this place. I think they also have a deal for hr massage and wax too, so for anyone interested in that ask ahead, and for masseuses, the attractive ones, I would recommend Vicky, Lily, or Nancy before she takes off back to Singapore. Annie is a better masseuse but she's older and for guys who want someone young I would stick with the first three.

Little Beauty Center. Haven't been back here in a while, but for those on here saying Linh / Daisy's been unresponsive, she went back to work last week. She's apparently not taking appointments later than 5 anymore, but for those wanting to try her out, she's back. I don't recommend her as she's too moody and kind of a flake, but she is an attractive Viet MILF with more of a nicer body than an attractive face; it's aged, if I were to guess age I might guess early 40's. If you catch her on a good day she's great, since I got intel from another monger saying he had A LOT of fun with her, but I've had one too many unpleasant experiences with her, and for others similar, that makes me hesitant to go back.

Eclat Day Spa. Think the owner removed this spa from Rmaps LOL. They're pretty selective on who they want to see, but the lone time I went here I got a HJ from Kate, a really attractive Viet MILF with a killer body and a face to match. She is moody though, her service for the HJ afterwards wasn't that sensual, but she did do a good job even though I remember the wax taking a while. Don't think she's the only girl here that does a wax with HJ, I think another Tiffany here does the same, but last time I was here I did leave happy. Damage was $60 for wax I believe, tip was $80 which is an overpay, but I wanted to see her drop down that dress she had on.

Suphattra's Retreat. The guy who posted right before you reported here about his experience. Sorry that you didn't get the 4 hands wax that I got here last time, you'd have to make sure Annie is working the same day as Jenny to even have a chance of that happening. Jenny is an okay looking Viet who's around 40-50, she has a pouch but her breasts are big and over the wax I found her more and more attractive. Annie's the one you'd want, she's realistically early 30's but looks younger than that, she's a cute looking Viet spinner who finished me off while Jenny rubbed my balls. Got both their tops off for it, and I left extremely satisfied. But as you said, wax itself was lackluster, and even with the two of them I remember it took a while for it to get done. Damage was $60 for wax, and tip was $60 overall, not each. I remember Annie wanted $80 for her top off, but haggle it down.

Amazing Spa. So I know they do wax here, I even saw they had the machine and wax, but when Yvonne took me in for a cheap $40 she ended up just using a razer instead of waxing me. She in the middle used wax on one portion, but just said it's easier and better with the razer and went back to that. Offered me HJ afterward but I said no. Don't recommend, but grooming is to be had here.

The Gardens Wellness Spa. Completely legit as far as my past experiences. Lily is usually the one to do wax and she's average yet attractive, I actually got hard during the wax but she's a pro and just kept at it. Didn't even entertain the thought of asking HJ afterwards, but recently when I got waxed from an around 50's Viet named Nikita, after all the pain was over, she was rubbing aloe vera while my knees were on the table all over my ass, groin and even stroked my cock. I got hard, but since I didn't find her attractive nor did I expect a HJ I didn't dare ask. So maybe you might get one here if you're lucky? Not sure if I would try. Damage was $60 for the brazilian, I tip $20 since the wax here is genuinely good, and I like supporting these legitimate establishments from time to time.

Only other place I thought about trying was OC Barber and Day Spa. They advertise on backpage, they have a listing on Rmaps, but when I made an appointment past 7 they were already closed by the time I got here. I think Kelly is the one you'd want to go to here for wax, but regarding looks, service, pricing I wouldn't know. I also got a wax from a tubby Viet MILF named Annabelle at Serenity Spa in Lake Forest, but I've heard now that they're a nuru spot that advertises a lot on backpage and IG, and I don't think they do wax here anymore.Any Nail / Hair salons?

GreenStream
03-06-21, 10:58
….. there's a very good chance that massage is going to become much more regulated in California None of the occupational licenses or certifications help with quality. They are designed to limit competition, nothing more. Yes, they make a show about quality, but it never works that way. Name the licensed or certified occupation, and it is easy to find people with the license or certification who are either incompetent, crooks, or both. Do you know about Institute for Justice, a great organization which fights for freedom and opportunity and against stuff such as crazy license / certification schemes? Please donate to them, they are a great organization doing much good.

Grimmy23
03-06-21, 11:59
None of the occupational licenses or certifications help with quality. They are designed to limit competition, nothing more. Yes, they make a show about quality, but it never works that way. Name the licensed or certified occupation, and it is easy to find people with the license or certification who are either incompetent, crooks, or both. Do you know about Institute for Justice, a great organization which fights for freedom and opportunity and against stuff such as crazy license / certification schemes? Please donate to them, they are a great organization doing much good.They help with quality to a certain extent. The massage certification means they went to an accredited massage school and got at least 500 hours of training and passed the exam, which is very difficult. Are there people who can give a decent massage with little training? Of course. But do they have the in-depth anatomical knowledge they need to really be healers? If you go into a place with extreme lower back pain, a worker in an AMP probably isn't going to figure out that it's referred pain from the gluteus medius and she needs to do trigger point to release an adhesion.

Yes, you get incompetents in any licensed profession. Lawyers, all that means is they went to law school and passed the bar. Same with doctors. But the license does give accountability. There's an organization they have to answer to if they royally screw up. And in the massage world, yes, that means it's a lot harder for the types of places discussed on this site to stay open because there's a massage board that actually has some enforcement teeth. As I mentioned, I don't think AMPs will go away. Almost all other states have a massage license, and they all still have MPs. But the landscape will likely change somewhat.

LaidBack59
03-06-21, 12:05
What are everyone's thought on recording during massage and uploading?It's a crap move and makes things worse for all of us. It's right up there with the assholes who thinks it's great fun to promise "I will take care of you", get their action and then tip a few bucks and run out the door. While I can appreciate the "thrill" of it -- and considered it myself during my younger days -- age does bring wisdom.

The girls get suspicious and paranoid, the service goes down hill and we all suffer. Many of the girls do know about these sites, and do talk to each other.

Also, while there are the hardcore pros. Most of the girls are real people with real feelings who are just trying to do a job and pay their bills too.

I was recently at a parlor where a guy got caught recording. Caused quite an uproar and totally ruined the massage for the other 3 guys in the store at the time.

Enjoy your visit. Treat the girls right. And make it better for everyone.

EastHornDog14
03-06-21, 12:41
What are everyone's thought on recording during massage and uploading?I would advise against it. Sure it might make for good spank material later, but nowadays it'd probably be more of a headache than anything else.

SaltyDog
03-06-21, 13:22
What are everyone's thought on recording during massage and uploading?I say go flor it just don't get caught. There's plenty of vids on porn sites.

Wireless91910
03-06-21, 17:42
Decided to check this place out after reading the below mentioned review. They have rooms on the right when you walk in, so not sure if they have remodeled since you went. Walls do not go all the way to roof, so yes you can hear everything. I went in early afternoon and was the only one there. Paid fee to good Looking Asian wearing a lab coat with short dress on underneath. As she showed me to the room saw another good looking Asian come out of the bathroom. The rub was quick and within 10 minutes I"m laying face up. As she bent in to whisper "what you want?" I replied "everything" and the negation's started. She wanted 1. 6 for CBJ & FS. I told her I only had $ and she said "CBJ" only, I said never mind and she quickly countered "this time only". Wanted tip upfront, so I paid her, and then assumed position on table. Had a little wood from her teasing, but she rolled the cover on without much warm up. Proceed to jump on top and ride, took about 5 minutes before I was stiff to do any work. Finally decided to switch positions with her on her back. Now as I was pounding away you could definitely hear the skin slapping anywhere inside their facility. Finally turned her over for K9 and as I was pounding away I could hear the other girl walking to the front as another monger was entering. That was my cue to finish and delivered into the cover. She cleaned me up and did a quick massage to finish. Would probably go back as she was definitely cute and had a nice body. Would probably pay 1. 2 to get access to DATY / DATO.


Was on Santa Ana for work and had an itch for a massage. I decided to try out palm located on 1st and Tustin. As I was walking in an older gentleman (could have been my grandfather) was coming out of the place. I only was one provider same one escorting the older gentleman out. I paid 40 for half an hour. I can not recall her name, but she was Asian and good looking. I'd say that she was in her mid to late 30's. She was wearing a red dress which was a good sign that I'd at least get a HJ. After about 10 minutes of a back massage she asked me to flip and asked what I wanted. For the first time in my 9 years of mongering I decided to obtains a CBJ. I paid her 60 upfront. She went out grabbed a rubber and proceeded. I was nervous, but still managed to be hard. After a few minutes I blew inside the bag. Since this was the first time I get more than a HJ I didn't really care for putting FIV or grabbing her nice pair of twins which she took out prior to giving me head. This place does not have rooms. The "rooms" are made up of curtains which is interesting. I could only imagine being able to hear everything when multiple providers are working haha. Everything is offered here. You all stay safe and report back if you experience or have experienced this place as I am thinking of going back.

GreenStream
03-06-21, 18:30
There's an organization they have to answer to if they royally screw up. Maybe! I know of more than a few screw-ups and crooks with a license or certification who have had it for more than 20 years, yet nothing happens to them. Since when did it become OK for big government to tell people what work they can or can not do? The whole idea that some higher-up "experts" or "elites" will decide what is best for everybody (usually except them and their friends), has never worked. Providing phony-baloney "training classes" and various conventions with sessions which grand CEUs has become big business. All of it just adds cost and prevents peole who might be excellent from getting into many fields.

GreenStream
03-06-21, 18:32
What are everyone's thought on recording during massage and uploading?Why would you do such a thing? No good could possibly result, just trouble. Respect the women, they are not machines, or buy a machine if that is what you really want.

SneakyPete7
03-06-21, 18:56
Okay long time lurker first time posting. I'll give some of my experiences and what I paid. I do not remember names though.

Detox (GG):

Busty Latinas mostly fake bodies good and bad. The mms is a guy pretty chill. No massage just action. Hot ladies but they try and work you quick. Clean location private rooms. Open late.

Fee: . 4 house 1. Tip FS.

Tulip (Stnt):

Middle aged Asian women which I like. Decently clean are is a little sketchy. Never got FS here. Massage is okay. Private rooms.

Fee: . 4 house. 6 he.

6*(Wmst).

Younger girls cute. Can enter through back door. Private rooms dimly lit. Decent massage. They'll text you line up.

Fee: . 4 house 1. Cfs. 6 BBBJ (only some girls).

Blue sky (SA):

Younger Sexy girls Asian. Decently clean location. Private rooms.

Fee: . 4 house 1. 2 cfs.

Sorry for lack of description but blue sky and 6* I've had the best sessions. If you want more info PM! Looking for recommendations for a clean place with good massage and he at least. I'm interested in Lisa at Angel but can't figure it out. Also has anyone tried happy day spa on bolsa?Great reviews. Just the right amount of info. I have tried and agree with most Except I haven't heard of Ue Sky and couldn't find in Santa Ana on RM? Any more deets to share to help me track it down since it sounds great?

Wireless91910
03-06-21, 20:13
Just go over to pornhub, xhamster or any of those types of website an type in "hidden massage" and you will find 1000's of dudes that posted footage from inside massage parlors. Old timer Misfit got busted twice at Valley and Royal in Bloomington for his posting. The same could be said for " why would you pay for pussy?" No good could possibly result, just trouble. Just my two cents.


Why would you do such a thing? No good could possibly result, just trouble. Respect the women, they are not machines, or buy a machine if that is what you really want.

LobElsewhere
03-06-21, 20:15
What are everyone's thought on recording during massage and uploading?Assuming you get away with it. The girls know to look for that each session (what do you think they're doing when your lying on your stomach while they massage you) and if you get caught, you don't just get kicked out. You'll be lucky if you don't end up with hospital bills.

HeadorTail
03-06-21, 20:32
What are everyone's thought on recording during massage and uploading?I've seen a few of those. Typically they're crap. The girls always turn the lights down for fun time. The camera angle is limited to where the hanger is for your pants and shirt. What you end up with is a grainy, dark picture of some guys hairy ass bouncing a thimble in a pond. Not worth the hassle when the real thing is so available and cheap.

BenderOver
03-06-21, 20:37
Blue sky (SA):

Younger Sexy girls Asian. Decently clean location. Private rooms.

Fee: . 4 house 1. 2 cfs.
Went to Blue Sky and saw Cindy from mainland. Early 30's, stout but firm, shapely, humungous and firm tits. Probably had a kid before. With mask on, she looked like an 8. Took off her mask and it went to 6. Service was business though she thought I was handsome. Her first ask was 150 for cfs and 120 was for CBJ. Settled on 120. CBJ cfs. Recommend? If you're curious or in a pinch. Repeat? Not likely.

Bronco
03-06-21, 22:10
Slammer goes down swinging. If you want to read my experience for today it actually went into the user blog if you care to read it.What is the user blog??

GreenStream
03-07-21, 10:57
Just go over to pornhub, xhamster or any of those types of website an type in "hidden massage" and you will find 1000's of dudes that posted footage from inside massage parlors. .Videos of actors and actresses are not the same thing.

Oc Amper
03-07-21, 12:30
What is the user blog??There are no blogs on this site. There is a thread.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33089-Slammer-Goes-down-swinging-Game-1-2-Norco-corona&

Where he speaks of this one off event. Threads are supposed to be for conversations about one subject area that continue over the course of time.

JBird433
03-07-21, 14:01
Great reviews. Just the right amount of info. I have tried and agree with most Except I haven't heard of Ue Sky and couldn't find in Santa Ana on RM? Any more deets to share to help me track it down since it sounds great?McFadden, pizza, video games.

Skinny Dugan
03-07-21, 14:11
There is a section below these threads called "User Blogs".

Slammer is using that area for his baseball commentary.


There are no blogs on this site. There is a thread.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33089-Slammer-Goes-down-swinging-Game-1-2-Norco-corona&

Where he speaks of this one off event. Threads are supposed to be for conversations about one subject area that continue over the course of time.

Wireless91910
03-07-21, 16:26
Bro, do some research before you pop off!

https://xhamster.com/videos/asian-massage-parlor-sex-10207755


Videos of actors and actresses are not the same thing.

Wireless91910
03-07-21, 16:34
https://xhamster.com/videos/massage-parlor-bliss-this-was-awesome-bareback-fun-enjoy-11192913


Videos of actors and actresses are not the same thing.

Caribe
03-07-21, 17:29
https://xhamster.com/videos/massage-parlor-bliss-this-was-awesome-bareback-fun-enjoy-11192913This guy has quite a library of what seems to be real action. ENJOY!

https://xhamster.com/users/bohica731

SaltyDog
03-07-21, 21:19
There is a section below these threads called "User Blogs".

Slammer is using that area for his baseball commentary.User blog? Has anyone Ben reading his user blogs? Anyone? I have.

Stockholm
03-07-21, 21:59
This guy has quite a library of what seems to be real action. ENJOY!

https://xhamster.com/users/bohica731Fat guy looks like tony soprano.

Slammer6008
03-07-21, 22:37
Next weekend will be heading out to fabulous town of Temecula were I heard there are some great fields out there. We've been practicing hard all weekend. Thanks anonymous today you know who you are. Slammer was very happy today to fill that ass all the way up. That's the Training he needs to have a solid season. Are pitching is coming around. She might be the team Masseuse.

Mugsy204
03-07-21, 23:34
Went to Serenity in Lake Forest a couple Saturdays ago. Asked for hot Asian. Got what I asked for when Hailey came in. Said she was 24 - looked about that. She was really cute had a great body. Small tits and tight, round ass. Got the 45 minute massage. Hailey gave a great massage for about 20 minutes then oiled my legs and ass up and did some great teasing on the boys and ass for a few minutes and got me to attention big time. On the flip she asked if I wanted NURU and I said yes. She took off her clothes and oiled me all up on front and started rubbing her body up and down while stroking me and then she did the best camel toe slide while I was sucking her tits. She got really turned while she was rubbing her pussy on my shaft. Made me blow quicker than I wanted! Highly recommend this place. Hailey only works weekends. House. 55 NURU 1. 2.

YungMonger96
03-08-21, 00:22
Stopped by 5 star body massage on Westminster this evening. Got Nora I believe her name was, she looked to be in her late 30's early 40's but was hard to tell in the dark with her mask on haha. It seemed fairly busy as while I was getting rubbed out 3 other guys came in for the same. She gave a good massage and teased my cock and balls a lot. Got a HJ from her for $40. Tried a few times to get her to take her shirt or pants off but she only allowed for over the clothes touching. Overall not a bad evening with Nora.

JBird433
03-08-21, 00:47
So I found the "Angel" spot and pulled Amy Mid 30's. Massage was pretty good didn't feel rushed at all. Very sensual I see why it's a good spot.

Location! Wow right in the middle of everything in plain sight.

I'm starting to think this is an unspoken Asian cultural thing anyone else agree or have any thoughts??

This will be my last post for a bit. Good luck why'll stay safe.

Grimmy23
03-08-21, 11:37
When you go to an AMP, what do you do when you're waiting for your girl to come in? Lay face down on the table, or sit on the edge of the table? For 30+ years I've always undressed and laid face down, but maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years, or maybe it doesn't make much difference either way. I've seen a few suggestions that sitting on the table maybe invites a little more interaction at the start of the session.

EastHornDog14
03-08-21, 11:47
When you go to an AMP, what do you do when you're waiting for your girl to come in? Lay face down on the table, or sit on the edge of the table? For 30+ years I've always undressed and laid face down, but maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years, or maybe it doesn't make much difference either way. I've seen a few suggestions that sitting on the table maybe invites a little more interaction at the start of the session.I just lay face down on the bed or massage table. It seems like it would not make a huge difference. But my thinking is, at least for me, laying down reduces the odds of potentially spooking the girl when they come in. Also, there's been one or two times where the MMS pokes her head in and laying down makes things a little less awkward. Again, this is just me.

July1714
03-08-21, 13:29
Why would you do such a thing? No good could possibly result, just trouble. Respect the women, they are not machines, or buy a machine if that is what you really want.Who hurt you? LOL it was a question because I came across some douchebag who does it in this forum. I never said I was doing it.

RogerOver
03-08-21, 14:42
Next weekend will be heading out to fabulous town of Temecula were I heard there are some great fields out there. We've been practicing hard all weekend. Thanks anonymous today you know who you are. Slammer was very happy today to fill that ass all the way up. That's the Training he needs to have a solid season. Are pitching is coming around. She might be the team Masseuse.I highly recommend this place if you like big titted asians (Wendy) and FS.

Asian Massage in Temecula, California (https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-asian-massage-temecula-ca-33067)

Wendy works Friday through Tuesday, or at least she did about 3 months ago when I visited and fucked her. She also has a thing where she simultaneously rubs one part of your body while playing with your ass. Almost feels like a four hander.

When the lady greats you at the front, just ask for Wendy. She's used to it.

RogerOver
03-08-21, 14:50
When you go to an AMP, what do you do when you're waiting for your girl to come in? Lay face down on the table, or sit on the edge of the table? For 30+ years I've always undressed and laid face down, but maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years, or maybe it doesn't make much difference either way. I've seen a few suggestions that sitting on the table maybe invites a little more interaction at the start of the session.I get naked and sit on the table, maybe with a towel draped across my nethers (first visit). When the girl comes in, I stand up completely naked and start to lay face down. I might give them a quick hug or ass pat as I do. They generally giggle and rub my ass for a few seconds, and then we get started.

This method has worked for me about 100% of the time.

CivilBeast
03-08-21, 15:22
When you go to an AMP, what do you do when you're waiting for your girl to come in? Lay face down on the table, or sit on the edge of the table? For 30+ years I've always undressed and laid face down, but maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years, or maybe it doesn't make much difference either way. I've seen a few suggestions that sitting on the table maybe invites a little more interaction at the start of the session.Going to try the sitting intro next, haven't yet. Sounds like a good option. Recently I have been lying face up with the towel across the D. Have gotten some knowing and playful interactions from some ladies that liked the directness especially the ones not into the message portion of the feature as much. Most of the time they smile and ask me to flip, but at least then they have a hint of why I'm there. Only once or twice did they ever act offended and one such occasion it turned into message only session so maybe it back-fired or maybe extras weren't on the table – so to speak – to begin with. Never went back.

PaperTiger24
03-08-21, 15:22
When you go to an AMP, what do you do when you're waiting for your girl to come in? Lay face down on the table, or sit on the edge of the table? For 30+ years I've always undressed and laid face down, but maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years, or maybe it doesn't make much difference either way. I've seen a few suggestions that sitting on the table maybe invites a little more interaction at the start of the session.Lie face up with no towel.

Grimmy23
03-08-21, 15:25
I just lay face down on the bed or massage table. It seems like it would not make a huge difference. But my thinking is, at least for me, laying down reduces the odds of potentially spooking the girl when they come in. Also, there's been one or two times where the MMS pokes her head in and laying down makes things a little less awkward. Again, this is just me.I don't think I'd worry too much about spooking any of the girls, or even the MMS. I'm sure the girls are well aware that whatever random guy is behind that door, he's most likely going to have his hand up her skirt and her hand and / or lips wrapped around his dick in a matter of minutes. It's probably a rarity that it doesn't happen. I'm also pretty sure the MMS has seen more than her fair share of random naked men. I've been at places that had a PPS and he poked his head in, and that's a little weird, but if you've ever been to a spa in China, much weirder stuff than that happens before your service. Almost every time I go to Havana, for whatever reason the manager (Luna) pops back into the room when I'm at some stage of undress. A couple times it was to give me my $5 change. One time was to let me know my girl was running a little behind and would be in shortly (I had just pulled my underwear down when she walked in). I find it a little strange, or maybe she just likes to get a sneak peak. But I don't find it awkward at all. I'm sure she's seen plenty before.

Back 25-30 years ago there was a place I was a regular at in Downey. It's long gone now, but I was in there once and they were very backed up. After about 15 minutes of waiting for a girl, the MMS came in (older but not unattractive) just to keep me company. She sat on the table and I sat next to her and she just made a little small talk for about 5 minutes while she gently fondled the boys.

For the most part I'm pretty much over AMPs strictly because they're almost always the same exact experience. I still get the itch once in a while though. Something about feeling up those bare thighs and going up the skirt to check if she has underwear on is is kind of satisfying. Thinking of maybe trying a slightly different routine next time.

I'm still searching high and low for a place that truly does give a choice of girls when you arrive. There's a new place in Downey that's advertising you get to choose. Literally 100% of the time though when I've gone to places that supposedly provide lineups there's only one girl available when I arrive, so I tend to think it's more of a myth around here.

CivilBeast
03-08-21, 15:25
I get naked and sit on the table, maybe with a towel draped across my nethers (first visit). When the girl comes in, I stand up completely naked and start to lay face down. I might give them a quick hug or ass pat as I do. They generally giggle and rub my ass for a few seconds, and then we get started.

This method has worked for me about 100% of the time.Going to try the sitting intro next, haven't yet. Sounds like a good option. Recently I have been lying face up with the towel across the D. Have gotten some knowing and playful interactions from some ladies that liked the directness especially the ones not into the message portion of the feature as much. Most of the time they smile and ask me to flip, but at least then they know why I'm there. Only once (or twice?) did they ever act offended and one such occasion it turned into message only session so maybe it back-fired or maybe extras weren't on the table – so to speak – to begin with. Never went back.

BenderOver
03-08-21, 15:38
Great reviews. Just the right amount of info. I have tried and agree with most Except I haven't heard of Ue Sky and couldn't find in Santa Ana on RM? Any more deets to share to help me track it down since it sounds great?Blue sky is on google maps. On main St near mcfadden I think. It's in a small minimall right at the corner of the intersection.

RogerOver
03-08-21, 15:39
For the most part I'm pretty much over AMPs strictly because they're almost always the same exact experience. I still get the itch once in a while though. Something about feeling up those bare thighs and going up the skirt to check if she has underwear on is is kind of satisfying. Thinking of maybe trying a slightly different routine next time.

While everyone is different, I normally skip any Latina shops because there's zero massage. I actually do want a massage during the session, and especially like it if they continue for a few minutes after I get off.

PaperTiger24
03-08-21, 15:56
I rarely go to Latina shops because they're usually bigger than what I'm attracted to. It's been so long since I've been to one so maybe that's changed. If anyone has a lead on Latina spinners let me know.

Grimmy23
03-08-21, 17:10
I rarely go to Latina shops because they're usually bigger than what I'm attracted to. It's been so long since I've been to one so maybe that's changed. If anyone has a lead on Latina spinners let me know.I go to places that have both Asian and Latina. I find that in those places the Latinas usually fall in line with whatever the standard is for the place, which is more typical of what you get from Asians. There's a couple places up in Downey that I like. Downey Therapy and Downey Massage. They're within walking distance of each other in neighboring strip malls. I always considered Downey Therapy to be kind of an under the radar place. In an unassuming, low traffic center and usually with slightly older but not ugly providers. They usually don't ask for the high end tips there either. In fact I can't recall ever being asked how much I was going to tip at that place. I used to live walking distance from it but now I'm 30 minutes away, so I don't go as much as I used to. I usually just got HJ there and occasionally a CBJ, but my last trip up there I got surprised and in walks a hot young Latina spinner who stripped completely naked and rode the shit out of me. Downey Massage in the center next door always says they have both, and I've seen some young Latina spinners in there. I know Downey is a reach though if you live more in the southern part of OC. I still venture up that way on occasion just for old times sake.

PaperTiger24
03-08-21, 17:38
I go to places that have both Asian and Latina. I find that in those places the Latinas usually fall in line with whatever the standard is for the place, which is more typical of what you get from Asians. There's a couple places up in Downey that I like. Downey Therapy and Downey Massage. They're within walking distance of each other in neighboring strip malls. I always considered Downey Therapy to be kind of an under the radar place. In an unassuming, low traffic center and usually with slightly older but not ugly providers. They usually don't ask for the high end tips there either. In fact I can't recall ever being asked how much I was going to tip at that place. I used to live walking distance from it but now I'm 30 minutes away, so I don't go as much as I used to. I usually just got HJ there and occasionally a CBJ, but my last trip up there I got surprised and in walks a hot young Latina spinner who stripped completely naked and rode the shit out of me. Downey Massage in the center next door always says they have both, and I've seen some young Latina spinners in there. I know Downey is a reach though if you live more in the southern part of OC. I still venture up that way on occasion just for old times sake.Nice, thank you for the rec. I'll definitely look into them.

Grimmy23
03-08-21, 17:39
While everyone is different, I normally skip any Latina shops because there's zero massage. I actually do want a massage during the session, and especially like it if they continue for a few minutes after I get off.My problem is being an owner of a legit massage establishment, I have much higher expectations when it comes to massage, and not a single one of the Asian girls meets it. In 30+ years I haven't had a single provider in any Asian or Latina MP who was good enough to get hired at my place or any other legit spa. There's a HUGE difference between a real CMT and what "hobby" providers do. AMPs are just too predictable and all pretty much the same. It's always: get naked and lay down, get 10 minutes of crappy ass back massage with a little crack and ball teasing, flip, negotiate tip. And get finished quickly and rushed out the door so they can repeat with 10 more guys before going home. Sometimes there's a little bit of thrill of the chase, which is probably the only thing that keeps me going back from time to time. Will I get a cute provider this time? How smooth will those bare legs feel? What will she be wearing under that short skirt? I totally get that.

I love Havana because you always get a young hottie with a nice personality there, and you know that she's going to get completely naked and give you good service. There's no unpleasant surprises there. But it's also a $200 HJ by the time you're done. If all you want is a HJ you can get that from an AMP for less, but chances are it will be a rush job from someone older and less attractive who maybe doesn't even remove all of her clothing or allow much touching.

RogerOver
03-08-21, 18:01
My problem is being an owner of a legit massage establishment, I have much higher expectations when it comes to massage, and not a single one of the Asian girls meets it. In 30+ years I haven't had a single provider in any Asian or Latina MP who was good enough to get hired at my place or any other legit spa. There's a HUGE difference between a real CMT and what "hobby" providers do. AMPs are just too predictable and all pretty much the same. It's always: get naked and lay down, get 10 minutes of crappy ass back massage with a little crack and ball teasing, flip, negotiate tip. And get finished quickly and rushed out the door so they can repeat with 10 more guys before going home. Sometimes there's a little bit of thrill of the chase, which is probably the only thing that keeps me going back from time to time. Will I get a cute provider this time? How smooth will those bare legs feel? What will she be wearing under that short skirt? I totally get that.

I love Havana because you always get a young hottie with a nice personality there, and you know that she's going to get completely naked and give you good service. There's no unpleasant surprises there. But it's also a $200 HJ by the time you're done. If all you want is a HJ you can get that from an AMP for less, but chances are it will be a rush job from someone older and less attractive who maybe doesn't even remove all of her clothing or allow much touching.Sure. Personally, if I need a "therapeutic" massage, I take myself to a legit massage parlor that provides that with no intention of trying for some happy time. That said, I've been to a few AMPs who do a reasonably decent massage and have a "routine" to provide it. Meaning it's not just an uncoordinated back rub. The ones that do that tend to be a little older, though. Anyway, it's all subjective to the payer.

Generally speaking, if I want to drop two bills or higher, I'm finding an escort I can smash a few times for an hour.

HeadorTail
03-08-21, 18:36
When you go to an AMP, what do you do when you're waiting for your girl to come in? Lay face down on the table, or sit on the edge of the table? For 30+ years I've always undressed and laid face down, but maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years, or maybe it doesn't make much difference either way. I've seen a few suggestions that sitting on the table maybe invites a little more interaction at the start of the session.I always sit on the table with the towel on my lap. They always say face down. I ask them to come over and turn them and touch their shoulders and say medium. I've had several back surgeries so I touch their lower back and say soft. Then I caress her butt and say medium and when the turn to face me I lightly touch a breast or front of pants and say tickle. They usually laugh (I'm an old guy so I get away with shit like that) then stand up, hand them the towel and lie face down. So they know I'm not a cop, I'm not John Holmes, and they get a peek at my saggy balls as I get comfortable. It works for me.

SneakyPete7
03-08-21, 18:47
Went to Serenity in Lake Forest a couple Saturdays ago. Asked for hot Asian. Got what I asked for when Hailey came in. Said she was 24 - looked about that. She was really cute had a great body. Small tits and tight, round ass. Got the 45 minute massage. Hailey gave a great massage for about 20 minutes then oiled my legs and ass up and did some great teasing on the boys and ass for a few minutes and got me to attention big time. On the flip she asked if I wanted NURU and I said yes. She took off her clothes and oiled me all up on front and started rubbing her body up and down while stroking me and then she did the best camel toe slide while I was sucking her tits. She got really turned while she was rubbing her pussy on my shaft. Made me blow quicker than I wanted! Highly recommend this place. Hailey only works weekends. House. 55 NURU 1. 2.Could it have been Kaylie? Sounds about the same description. Only asking because I had Kaylie and she was good but always looking for the next best thing (which could be Hailey?

OcHobby949
03-08-21, 20:07
Long time lurker. She's been reviewed before but thought it wouldn't hurt to provide an update. It was easy to book an appointment with her. She mentioned she had a "friend" in town but she was only visiting for the week. The massage was good and her service was great. Everything I was hoping for with the big exploding fireworks at the end. Was cleaned up and had a donut before leaving the area.

I really like the fact that she only takes one appointment at a time.

Stockholm
03-08-21, 20:13
A new outfit has opened in the same spt as the former Banzai Healing on Lincoln.

Got junior a trim (shave) and wax the crack with a natural busty gal who allowed some nice acces to the girls.

https://orangecounty.rubratings.com/138788

July1714
03-08-21, 20:50
After Fridays scare as I was passing new moon I called mamasan next day and she said a crack head went in so they called cops. Yall can visit now. On Saturday I went to detox. Cynthia and Bella weren't in so I tried jasmine. She was about 5. 5 thick and late 20's. She wasn't fat but just thick. She charged me. 8 and house was. 4 may try her again just because she charged me low. Any other Latina FS provider's recommended? I tried Bella, Cynthia and jasmine here. Jasmine has a heart tat in her right ass cheek.

Adipca
03-08-21, 22:29
I always sit on the table with the towel on my lap. They always say face down. I ask them to come over and turn them and touch their shoulders and say medium. I've had several back surgeries so I touch their lower back and say soft. Then I caress her butt and say medium and when the turn to face me I lightly touch a breast or front of pants and say tickle. They usually laugh (I'm an old guy so I get away with shit like that) then stand up, hand them the towel and lie face down. So they know I'm not a cop, I'm not John Holmes, and they get a peek at my saggy balls as I get comfortable. It works for me.I sit on the table with my Johnson fully exposed. I won't even go to a room unless it is with one I am attracted to and know I am getting. I usually cop a feel of her ass or pull up her dress before even going to the room to make sure there is no hidden fat. If they pull a switch on me, and that has happened, I demand the one I said I wanted and agreed to see me or I leave and demand a refund. I have also left if they won't take my "take it or leave it" standard offer for CFS. I also make sure CFS is available before agreeing to go to a room. This way, no surprises; no waste of time. Has worked every time. No faux massage. Right down to business.

Mugsy204
03-09-21, 00:55
Could it have been Kaylie? Sounds about the same description. Only asking because I had Kaylie and she was good but always looking for the next best thing (which could be Hailey?It was definitely Hailey, heard it very clearly and she spoke perfect English. They put Hailey on the ad pics too.

Heartless Jay
03-09-21, 01:42
On Saturday I went to detox. Cynthia and Bella weren't in so I tried jasmine. She was about 5. 5 thick and late 20's. She wasn't fat but just thick. She charged me. 8 and house was. 4 may try her again just because she charged me low. Any other Latina FS provider's recommended? I tried Bella, Cynthia and jasmine here. Jasmine has a heart tat in her right ass cheek.The only girl I've seen at Detox is Amy. She's really got a nice bedside manner, a sweet personality, but best of all she's got a great ass. Big and round and firm with a massive back tattoo. K9 is an absolute must with her, just for the visual. $. 2 plus house fee. Didn't ask for bb, as it's not my thing.

AsianPussy
03-09-21, 02:54
Have you tried Krystal? She was a legit CMT for years and I've had many legit massages and hers was outstanding.


My problem is being an owner of a legit massage establishment, I have much higher expectations when it comes to massage, and not a single one of the Asian girls meets it. In 30+ years I haven't had a single provider in any Asian or Latina MP who was good enough to get hired at my place or any other legit spa. There's a HUGE difference between a real CMT and what "hobby" providers do. AMPs are just too predictable and all pretty much the same. It's always: get naked and lay down, get 10 minutes of crappy ass back massage with a little crack and ball teasing, flip, negotiate tip. And get finished quickly and rushed out the door so they can repeat with 10 more guys before going home. Sometimes there's a little bit of thrill of the chase, which is probably the only thing that keeps me going back from time to time. Will I get a cute provider this time? How smooth will those bare legs feel? What will she be wearing under that short skirt? I totally get that.

I love Havana because you always get a young hottie with a nice personality there, and you know that she's going to get completely naked and give you good service. There's no unpleasant surprises there. But it's also a $200 HJ by the time you're done. If all you want is a HJ you can get that from an AMP for less, but chances are it will be a rush job from someone older and less attractive who maybe doesn't even remove all of her clothing or allow much touching.

SCJohn
03-09-21, 03:01
A new outfit has opened in the same spt as the former Banzai Healing on Lincoln.

Got junior a trim (shave) and wax the crack with a natural busty gal who allowed some nice acces to the girls.

https://orangecounty.rubratings.com/138788Still sitting on the fence whether I want to try manscaping. Seems pretty expensive. From what I gather it's $60-80 for the trimming, shaving, waxing, etc. +tip. Are you guys spending $100 for manscaping + HJ? How long does this all take? I can trim and shave my balls / ass in the shower myself. Of course, I can see it being more fun if someone else is doing it. But for the cost, I'd rather get a massage.

RGarcia123
03-09-21, 10:13
Havana strictly just nuru but the hour with Chanel is great, she can really give a hard massage. Tons of teasing and if you vibe with her can be a very sensual finish!

Elle is also a favorite of mine as well.

SaltyDog
03-09-21, 11:03
Still sitting on the fence whether I want to try manscaping. Seems pretty expensive. From what I gather it's $60-80 for the trimming, shaving, waxing, etc. +tip. Are you guys spending $100 for manscaping + HJ? How long does this all take? I can trim and shave my balls / ass in the shower myself. Of course, I can see it being more fun if someone else is doing it. But for the cost, I'd rather get a massage.It's better to wax your balls not shave them. Why would you shave your ass though? If you go in with a short cut it should be $40 takes about 30 minutes and yes then there's the tip.

Grimmy23
03-09-21, 11:14
Have you tried Krystal? She was a legit CMT for years and I've had many legit massages and hers was outstanding.I haven't tried her but I've read about her in here recently. I'll have to give her a try when I can. My holy grail is a fully nude, un-rushed massage for the full time that I paid for, with a happy ending. From what I've read it sounds like exactly what she provides. I've only had it from one or two other providers around here in 30 years so it's truly a rarity if she's the real deal.

Socalopus
03-09-21, 11:16
I was in the area, and in need, so I decided to give Lucky Pavilion another shot. I'd been there 4 or 5 times pre-pandemic, and every time had gotten Ruby. She's a bit goofy and gets you off good, but not that attractive. This time I got another MILF, early 40's, rather cute, with big soft tits. She never spoke a word, but gave a decent massage for about 20 minutes, then the flip. She wanted 1 for BBBJ, and I countered with. 8. She never made the attempt to get her clingy dress off, but I let my hands get under it anyway. She was good with her mouth, and I got what I needed, but she just didn't have any personality. She only lightened up slightly after I said xie xie as I was leaving. I intended to, but forgot to ask her name. I'm not often in the area, so it's not like it was really important. LP is pretty similar to F&C down the street. Cheaper service, but that's not necessarily good. Though Lucy, even though not much of a looker, is in a class all by herself. .

August West
03-09-21, 13:11
Okay long time lurker first time posting. I'll give some of my experiences and what I paid. I do not remember names though.

Detox (GG):

Busty Latinas mostly fake bodies good and bad. The mms is a guy pretty chill. No massage just action. Hot ladies but they try and work you quick. Clean location private rooms. Open late.

Fee: . 4 house 1. Tip FS.

Tulip (Stnt):

Middle aged Asian women which I like. Decently clean are is a little sketchy. Never got FS here. Massage is okay. Private rooms.

Fee: . 4 house. 6 he.Wow this is a great list. Thank you! I am having a hell of a time finding a good waxing place in LA. You ever venture up there? Any of you OC guys know a good Brazilian wax joint in LA?

Dildo Baggens
03-09-21, 14:09
I tried this place out and was able to get a decent massage and much better than average HE. Lots of roaming and tit sucking. Just wondering if any of you Mongers out there know if FS is available and with whom. From my past experiences, sometimes you have to establish yourself with the provider before they offer the full menu. Let me know if I'm wasting my time and $$.

Thanks,

Baggens.

YellowFinTuna
03-09-21, 19:03
I haven't tried her but I've read about her in here recently. I'll have to give her a try when I can. My holy grail is a fully nude, un-rushed massage for the full time that I paid for, with a happy ending. From what I've read it sounds like exactly what she provides. I've only had it from one or two other providers around here in 30 years so it's truly a rarity if she's the real deal.Krystal is great but she is a bit pricey and she will short you about 10-minuteson on the hour. She is one of the best massages out there and she's super cool and good looking.

Bla Bla
03-09-21, 20:31
Went and saw Helen. She's a young (26 years old) petite cutie. She seems new to the massage world. When she perfects her technique, she'll be really good.

Buzz45
03-09-21, 22:30
Went and saw Helen. She's a young (26 years old) petite cutie. She seems new to the massage world. When she perfects her technique, she'll be really good.Is this place FS?

CantBuyMeLove
03-09-21, 22:59
It was definitely Hailey, heard it very clearly and she spoke perfect English. They put Hailey on the ad pics too.Yeah, plus Kaylie has been MIA for about a month a half now so she may no longer be at Serenity (and she had at least C cups). BTW, you said you saw Hailey at Serenity but Serenity is at Suite 11X and I don't recall ever having seen pics of a girl named Hailey for that location (but Kaylie that the other poster was referring to is / was from Ste 11X aka Serenity). Perhaps you went to Suite 109, which does show a girl named Hailey but they are different from Serenity.

Bla Bla
03-10-21, 11:26
Is this place FS?Some might do FS. I got FS from one of them, forgot her name, a few months ago. She doesn't work there anymore.

LilBuddyGillig
03-10-21, 12:16
I tried this place out and was able to get a decent massage and much better than average HE. Lots of roaming and tit sucking. Just wondering if any of you Mongers out there know if FS is available and with whom. From my past experiences, sometimes you have to establish yourself with the provider before they offer the full menu. Let me know if I'm wasting my time and $$.

Thanks,

Baggens.Money talks here. Quality is higher than normal, but expect Golden Pussy Syndrome. I'm over paying a premium for high mileage and quality. But them not wanting to work for it and have repeat clients. The boner breaking 'you cum quick?' bullshit.

HeadHunter1969
03-10-21, 14:43
Still sitting on the fence whether I want to try manscaping. Seems pretty expensive. From what I gather it's $60-80 for the trimming, shaving, waxing, etc. +tip. Are you guys spending $100 for manscaping + HJ? How long does this all take? I can trim and shave my balls / ass in the shower myself. Of course, I can see it being more fun if someone else is doing it. But for the cost, I'd rather get a massage.If you're really interested in the mansacping, don't wax. Its painful as FUCK and the results don't last. IF you just want to try it out, and get a HJ from a cute girl with nice tits, book with the beauty waxing queen. You can find her under that name on instagram. She only charges $40 for chest abdomen and "bikini" I give her her $60 tip as she takes off her top or pulls down gg her dress and allows titty sucking and FIV. She's fun. So for Benjamin you're waxed and drained!

July1714
03-10-21, 19:03
The only girl I've seen at Detox is Amy. She's really got a nice bedside manner, a sweet personality, but best of all she's got a great ass. Big and round and firm with a massive back tattoo. K9 is an absolute must with her, just for the visual. $. 2 plus house fee. Didn't ask for bb, as it's not my thing.What does she look like?

SneakyPete7
03-10-21, 19:36
Went and saw Helen. She's a young (26 years old) petite cutie. She seems new to the massage world. When she perfects her technique, she'll be really good.What services did you partake in and for what $? I assume this is Kings on LF drive? Any idea if they have an IG account? Thanks in advance for any more info!

Mugsy204
03-10-21, 20:45
Yeah, plus Kaylie has been MIA for about a month a half now so she may no longer be at Serenity (and she had at least C cups). BTW, you said you saw Hailey at Serenity but Serenity is at Suite 11X and I don't recall ever having seen pics of a girl named Hailey for that location (but Kaylie that the other poster was referring to is / was from Ste 11X aka Serenity). Perhaps you went to Suite 109, which does show a girl named Hailey but they are different from Serenity.Suite 10x - 3-4 many places there can't keep them all straight.

Bla Bla
03-10-21, 21:00
What services did you partake in and for what $? I assume this is Kings on LF drive? Any idea if they have an IG account? Thanks in advance for any more info!Just got an HJ from her. Didn't try for more. 40 hhr 50 tip. She let my hands wonder otc.

She was wearing a cute dress.

Yes. That's the place. Across from best buy.

Anabelle is my favorite there. She's hot.

PwrRngr1
03-10-21, 21:52
Been wanting to check this place out since pre-Covid. It looked like they shut down for a minute and reopened recently so I decided to stop by. I entered and no one was up front and I could see down the hall through a meager security bead cover haha. Desk on my left had a hand scribbled scratch paper with pricing. 5 for hhr or. 7 for hour so it looks like prices went up. My notes on the place read that they use to charge. 4 for hhr so must be a Covid cleaning fee added on.

Finally some Asian lady who I assume is the mamasan comes down the hall so I say hello and she just looks at me and doesn't say anything like a mute. Okay then, I fumble in my pockets for money and tell her I would like a half hour and that I saw they have latinas. She takes my money and points me to go through the bead wall and guides me to the first room on the right. Not very customer friendly so far and once in the room she tells me Latina is busy. I should've just walked but I've been wanting to try this place out so I just accept my fate.

The room looked pretty grimy and one of the towels on the bed looked like it might of had a shit stain or something else so I replaced it with a clean folded towel I found. Early 40's Asian lady walks in the room wearing tight clothes that accentuate her bolt ons and thick ass. She seems nice and has a nice body so I forget about the shit stained towels for a minute. We exchange pleasantries and it turns out she is Thai. I try to make small talk and tell her I don't speak Thai but I like Thai food and she laughs. Then she asks me straight if I want FS so I'm like yeah and she asks for donation $. 2. She starts me off with a 5 min massage of my back and then cleans me up to flip me over. Massage was oily and meh.

She gets naked and her body is nice for her age. Very squeezable bolt ons. Starts off with CBJ to get me going and then CFS in multiple positions and finished with long CBJ at end. Overall, it was alright / borderline disappointing compared to how I envisioned this place. I'll probably give it another shot to try out a Latina here as that's what I wanted from this place. If I get her again I would probably only do $ for CFS and if she doesn't budge then just a CBJ. Didn't bother exchanging names but she is a light skinned Thai with big bolt ons and thick ass maybe around 5'5" ish.

I can't seem to find a place that has hot women that do a decent massage and a BBBJ in OC. I'm probably going to stick to HX for sometime.

Best,

PwrRngr1.

Courious G
03-11-21, 00:43
What are everyone's thought on recording during massage and uploading?You will be found and prosecuted for it, don't be dumb.

Heartless Jay
03-11-21, 01:08
What does she look like?Amy looked really good to me, but of course we all like something different in a girl. Latina, cute face, thick but firm body, large breasts, big round firm ass (which is what I fixated on), big tatt on her back. And with me she had a great attitude. Didn't bust my balls haggling for more cash either.

Heartless Jay
03-11-21, 01:19
Third time seeing Bamboo Andy today. First two times played it cool and kept my hands to myself and was rewarded with a nice slow sensual HE on the flip, bordering on edging. Today however I pushed the issue after the teasing started and as soon as I stared roaming, out came the jackhammer. Doh! Wasn't aggressive, just some OTC mild tit squeezing and a hand on the vj. Got the message loud and clear though. Will spread my money around elsewhere for the time being. Shame too, as she was cute, gave a decent massage, and seemed happy to see me.

Grimmy23
03-11-21, 11:34
The room looked pretty grimy and one of the towels on the bed looked like it might of had a shit stain or something else so I replaced it with a clean folded towel I found. Early 40's Asian lady walks in the room wearing tight clothes that accentuate her bolt ons and thick ass. She seems nice and has a nice body so I forget about the shit stained towels for a minute. We exchange pleasantries and it turns out she is Thai. I try to make small talk and tell her I don't speak Thai but I like Thai food and she laughs. Then she asks me straight if I want FS so I'm like yeah and she asks for donation $. 2. She starts me off with a 5 min massage of my back and then cleans me up to flip me over. Massage was oily and meh..This is something I always worry about with MPs. Cleanliness, especially with the linens. A place can look clean, but if you have any idea how operations of a spa work, you know that keeping up with laundry is VERY difficult. Most legit spas get sheets from a linen service because you dirty them up faster than you can possibly wash them in house. That means a big truck pulling up once a week and dropping off a big ass pile of clean sheets and taking away the old ones. I'm pretty certain none of the "hobby" MPs are doing that. You can only get 6 sheets at a time in your washing machine, if you're lucky, so if you have are or 5 girls working and seeing more than one customer an hour you're soiling more sheets than you can possibly wash.

At my spa we use linen service for sheets and wash our own towels. On a busy weekend day we can't keep up with the towels. We're still washing the weekend's towel load into Monday morning. And that's with 8 providers, 3 receptionists, and a manager on staff. And again, that's just towels.

I know some AMPs are better than others, but a lot of them certainly aren't changing sheets after every customer, and the way they wash towels is suspect. I've been to a number of them over the years that just flipped the sheet over and put it right back on the table right after I jizzed all over it. The girl did that while I was still in the room getting dressed. Needless to say I never went back there again. Gross. Just one thing to keep an eye out for at these places.

RogerOver
03-11-21, 11:44
I can't seem to find a place that has hot women that do a decent massage and a BBBJ in OC. I'm probably going to stick to HX for sometime.

Best,

PwrRngr1.If you ever have reason to venture out of OC, I've bumped into a place you might like:

Pain Clinic in Upland. Sara gives an excellent BBBJ for $80. She works Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. She may have changed her name since re-opening, but if you call on her workday and ask if Sara is there, Mamasan will know.

Pain Clinic in Upland (https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-pain-clinic-upland-ca-41032)

RogerOver
03-11-21, 11:47
This is something I always worry about with MPs. Cleanliness, especially with the linens. A place can look clean, but if you have any idea how operations of a spa work, you know that keeping up with laundry is VERY difficult. Most legit spas get sheets from a linen service because you dirty them up faster than you can possibly wash them in house. That means a big truck pulling up once a week and dropping off a big ass pile of clean sheets and taking away the old ones. I'm pretty certain none of the "hobby" MPs are doing that. You can only get 6 sheets at a time in your washing machine, if you're lucky, so if you have are or 5 girls working and seeing more than one customer an hour you're soiling more sheets than you can possibly wash.

At my spa we use linen service for sheets and wash our own towels. On a busy weekend day we can't keep up with the towels. We're still washing the weekend's towel load into Monday morning. And that's with 8 providers, 3 receptionists, and a manager on staff. And again, that's just towels.

I know some AMPs are better than others, but a lot of them certainly aren't changing sheets after every customer, and the way they wash towels is suspect. I've been to a number of them over the years that just flipped the sheet over and put it right back on the table right after I jizzed all over it. The girl did that while I was still in the room getting dressed. Needless to say I never went back there again. Gross. Just one thing to keep an eye out for at these places.Guess we need to bring our own sheets. LOL.

Grimmy23
03-11-21, 12:01
Guess we need to bring our own sheets. LOL.Bring a beach towel or something similar to lay on, or at least a small towel to put under your ass. I wouldn't put it past even some of the "cleaner" places to just move sheets from one room to another without washing them because, as I said, you can't possibly wash them fast enough unless you have 2 washing machines, and even then it's doubtful. I doubt most AMPs have two washing machines.

Kevin80
03-11-21, 12:06
Third time seeing Bamboo Andy today. First two times played it cool and kept my hands to myself and was rewarded with a nice slow sensual HE on the flip, bordering on edging. Today however I pushed the issue after the teasing started and as soon as I stared roaming, out came the jackhammer. Doh! Wasn't aggressive, just some OTC mild tit squeezing and a hand on the vj. Got the message loud and clear though. Will spread my money around elsewhere for the time being. Shame too, as she was cute, gave a decent massage, and seemed happy to see me.What do you mean "our came the jackhammer at?

HeadorTail
03-11-21, 15:23
What do you mean "our came the jackhammer at?I'm guessing she picked up the pace on his pecker. LOL. Maybe his touch got her so hot she lost control. Andy's a nice girl and can be fun. Of course I'm damn cute so YMMV. (smiley face emoji).

McNutties
03-11-21, 16:36
If you ever have reason to venture out of OC, I've bumped into a place you might like:

Pain Clinic in Upland. Sara gives an excellent BBBJ for $80. She works Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. She may have changed her name since re-opening, but if you call on her workday and ask if Sara is there, Mamasan will know.

Pain Clinic in Upland (https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-pain-clinic-upland-ca-41032)How does Sara look? Thanks!

Wireless91910
03-11-21, 17:20
She rushed (Jackhammer) him to finish. To get him off in record time to stop him from feeling her up.


What do you mean "our came the jackhammer at?

Wireless91910
03-11-21, 17:27
2 recent reviews from yelp. Can you tell the Gender of the reviewers? LOL.

3/4/21 4 star.

This spa is nice, clean, well run and always a relaxing healing experience. Lovely ladies with professional attitudes.

3/7/2021 1 star.

The place faces a ugly parking lot, a massage should be in a nice serene place and the women that work here think they are hot and they are not. They come into 711 and think they are so great. Again they work in a parking lot hahaha fools.


Money talks here. Quality is higher than normal, but expect Golden Pussy Syndrome. I'm over paying a premium for high mileage and quality. But them not wanting to work for it and have repeat clients. The boner breaking 'you cum quick?' bullshit.

RogerOver
03-11-21, 17:31
How does Sara look? Thanks!You mean besides the back of her head? Like an Asian chick in her thirties with small C cup tits. She won't win a beauty contest but she isn't ugly, IMO.

NoClue02
03-11-21, 17:33
She rushed (Jackhammer) him to finish. To get him off in record time to stop him from feeling her up.Op must have hurting her. Mild squeeze is depend on each person I think. LOL. I never had issue playing inside her bra. Haven't got to below the waist inside, she lightly moved away but laugh it off and proceed to the usual deed.

RogerOver
03-11-21, 17:36
Bring a beach towel or something similar to lay on, or at least a small towel to put under your ass. I wouldn't put it past even some of the "cleaner" places to just move sheets from one room to another without washing them because, as I said, you can't possibly wash them fast enough unless you have 2 washing machines, and even then it's doubtful. I doubt most AMPs have two washing machines.Was in a place recently and they sat me behind a partition while another monger finished up and they "cleaned" the room. Let's just say they "cleaned" faster than anyone I'd ever seen. I did peek around the corner and see them throw a new sheet on, but it's anyone's guess if it had been washed.

Grimmy23
03-11-21, 17:57
Was in a place recently and they sat me behind a partition while another monger finished up and they "cleaned" the room. Let's just say they "cleaned" faster than anyone I'd ever seen. I did peek around the corner and see them throw a new sheet on, but it's anyone's guess if it had been washed.Cleaning doesn't take a long time. I actually helped write the state's Covid protocols. If they have the proper sanitizers (and that's a big if, they're expensive and not easy to get right now) it's basically strip the table down, spray all contact surfaces with the sanitizer, let it sit 3 minutes, and you're good to go. Chances are they don't have the 3-minute kill time sanitizer though. From what I can tell, MP's cut every possible corner, so the chances of them having the hospital grade stuff are pretty slim. I doubt they're using much more than 409 or soapy water. I think overall if you did a full on health inspection of any MP, even the "clean" ones, you'd be pretty disgusted with what you found. Very few if any would stand up to any public health protocol, much less an elevated Covid one.

Skinny Dugan
03-11-21, 18:33
I bring my UV light wand with me. At first I didn't want them to see me using it, but to my surprise the girls love watching me clean it. I mostly get the face hole nice and clean. A few have asked me to clean their phones. They are usually extra nice after.
I’m mostly nekid when they come in so I have to make sure my dink doesn’t get burnt.


Cleaning doesn't take a long time. I actually helped write the state's Covid protocols. If they have the proper sanitizers (and that's a big if, they're expensive and not easy to get right now) it's basically strip the table down, spray all contact surfaces with the sanitizer, let it sit 3 minutes, and you're good to go. Chances are they don't have the 3-minute kill time sanitizer though. From what I can tell, MP's cut every possible corner, so the chances of them having the hospital grade stuff are pretty slim. I doubt they're using much more than 409 or soapy water. I think overall if you did a full on health inspection of any MP, even the "clean" ones, you'd be pretty disgusted with what you found. Very few if any would stand up to any public health protocol, much less an elevated Covid one.

HeadHunter1969
03-11-21, 18:48
If you ever have reason to venture out of OC, I've bumped into a place you might like:

Pain Clinic in Upland. Sara gives an excellent BBBJ for $80. She works Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. She may have changed her name since re-opening, but if you call on her workday and ask if Sara is there, Mamasan will know.

Pain Clinic in Upland (https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-pain-clinic-upland-ca-41032)How does she look? Age? Body type? Topless? Is FS available? If she is young and hot, this could be a unicorn!

Kevin80
03-11-21, 19:26
I'm guessing she picked up the pace on his pecker. LOL. Maybe his touch got her so hot she lost control. Andy's a nice girl and can be fun. Of course I'm damn cute so YMMV. (smiley face emoji).I wasn't sure what he meant. He took it negatively which I don't think is necessarily true. Maybe she was hot and got into it.

Grimmy23
03-11-21, 19:39
I bring my UV light wand with me. At first I didn't want them to see me using it, but to my surprise the girls love watching me clean it. I mostly get the face hole nice and clean. A few have asked me to clean their phones. They are usually extra nice after.
Im mostly nekid when they come in so I have to make sure my dink doesnt get burnt.It's a completely unregulated industry, so they may or may not actually do anything. There's a lot of fakes out there that either don't actually emit UV, or emit UV at such low power that it doesn't do anything. There's not much clinical testing to prove whether or not it's actually effective. Hospitals use UV but the ones they use take 10-15 minutes of exposure, and you don't want to be in the room when they're on. I certainly wouldn't want to be in a room naked with anything that can kill coronaviruses. And then you have fecal bacteria and whatever might be in someone else's cum to worry about. If you're really worried, see if you can get some HBV sanitizer. That's the hospital grade stuff. Lightly mist the table with it when you walk in, and by the time you're undressed and ready to get on the table it should have killed most of anything that was on there. It's not easy to get a hold of these days though and it isn't cheap. I carry a small bottle in with me and do exactly that. Walk in, spritz the table, then get undressed and lay down.

StubbornMule
03-11-21, 20:06
Krystal is great but she is a bit pricey and she will short you about 10-minuteson on the hour. She is one of the best massages out there and she's super cool and good looking.This is about right. I agree she is very nice and gives a wonderful massage. I've also been annoyed a bit with the shorting time, especially since she increased her rates from 1. 65 to 1. 85. I haven't found anyone who gives a harder massage though.

Heartless Jay
03-12-21, 01:33
What do you mean "our came the jackhammer at?Jackhammer is the technique used at most of the VT jack shacks. Lube you up and pump as hard and as fast as possible, to get you to blow quickly and send you on your way. When you hear this term, it's not a good thing. She was not hot for me (LOL, me and my saggy old ass), she was saying get your mits off of my tits!

Heartless Jay
03-12-21, 01:57
This is something I always worry about with MPs. Cleanliness, especially with the linens.I've been mongering since 1980 in many states and many countries. Feel the need to share the low point in my career. Walking past a hair salon of sorts in Suva, Fiji and saw a sign for massage at $4. Always up for an adventure, I went for it. Just a curtained off corner with a few barber chairs a few yards away. Fat Indian lady told me to strip and lie down. Sheet was pretty dirty and on the middle of the table was a filthy hand towel, stiff as cardboard. Picked it up with two fingers and threw it on the floor. After a really shitty massage and an even shittier HJ, she picked that towel up off the floor and scrubbed the jizz off my belly with it. Guess there was only one towel and I was nowhere close to the first customer that day. If there were an AA for mongers, I'd have been at the next meeting. Takes a lot to gross me out, but this was the low point. But when little head starts talking, he usually gets his way, and I got right back on the horse to ride again.

Buzz45
03-12-21, 11:02
Sorry guys but I can't find info on white Swan on SA, is this place FS?

Thanks a lot.

Kevin80
03-12-21, 11:15
I've been mongering since 1980 in many states and many countries. Feel the need to share the low point in my career. Walking past a hair salon of sorts in Suva, Fiji and saw a sign for massage at $4. Always up for an adventure, I went for it. Just a curtained off corner with a few barber chairs a few yards away. Fat Indian lady told me to strip and lie down. Sheet was pretty dirty and on the middle of the table was a filthy hand towel, stiff as cardboard. Picked it up with two fingers and threw it on the floor. After a really shitty massage and an even shittier HJ, she picked that towel up off the floor and scrubbed the jizz off my belly with it. Guess there was only one towel and I was nowhere close to the first customer that day. If there were an AA for mongers, I'd have been at the next meeting. Takes a lot to gross me out, but this was the low point. But when little head starts talking, he usually gets his way, and I got right back on the horse to ride again.Oh man, yikes!

Grimmy23
03-12-21, 12:12
I've been mongering since 1980 in many states and many countries. Feel the need to share the low point in my career. Walking past a hair salon of sorts in Suva, Fiji and saw a sign for massage at $4. Always up for an adventure, I went for it. Just a curtained off corner with a few barber chairs a few yards away. Fat Indian lady told me to strip and lie down. Sheet was pretty dirty and on the middle of the table was a filthy hand towel, stiff as cardboard. Picked it up with two fingers and threw it on the floor. After a really shitty massage and an even shittier HJ, she picked that towel up off the floor and scrubbed the jizz off my belly with it. Guess there was only one towel and I was nowhere close to the first customer that day. If there were an AA for mongers, I'd have been at the next meeting. Takes a lot to gross me out, but this was the low point. But when little head starts talking, he usually gets his way, and I got right back on the horse to ride again.I've mongered in a lot of countries too. The funny thing is I always felt safe in Asian countries, completely confident the place was spotless. But Asian places here I'm not so confident because I know they cut corners. You do see some weird shit in some countries though. I used to go to Shanghai a few times a year. They have sauna clubs over there which are fun, but first thing you do is walk in and strip in a locker room. There's a male attendant in there who helps you put your clothes in a locker and gives you a key that you wear around your wrist. Then you walk bare ass naked down the hall and take a shower with several other guys in a gang shower. Then you go to a dry-off area where another male attendant helps you towel off your back and helps you get dressed in the little cotton PJs they provide while you're waiting for your turn to go to the fishbowl. Weird shit but you deal with it. Then when you're finally in the room with your girl she scrubs you from head to toe too, along with herself. And I do mean she scrubs everything up to and including your asshole. You literally couldn't possibly be any cleaner.

MrMike05
03-12-21, 13:01
Anyone have a white Papasan before? It totally threw me off yesterday.

Went to Oasis Spa in SA yesterday. No one was at the front desk. A minute later, a white gentleman who looked like he was in his 60's came strolling down the hall. Was sporting a trucker cap and has a huge white Santa Claus like beard. I thought it was a fellow monger who just had wrapped up a session, but it took me back by surprise when he asked how I was doing, and how long I wanted to stay for. The only masseuse there came up shortly thereafter to take care of payment and everything, and while she was doing so, he kept on bending his head to check her semi-decent ass. Don't know why but the whole experience threw me off.

Rocco D
03-12-21, 13:17
I drove by the other day and Open sign was on. Doesn't mean they are open I guess but maybe they regrouped.


Oh nooooooo! Does anybody know what happened? What a shame. Damn pigs must have shut them down.

Rocco D
03-12-21, 13:23
Aunties in dresses here with poor massage and a tad aggressive. It's churn and burn, get you in and put asap.


Was on Santa Ana for work and had an itch for a massage. I decided to try out palm located on 1st and Tustin. As I was walking in an older gentleman (could have been my grandfather) was coming out of the place. I only was one provider same one escorting the older gentleman out. I paid 40 for half an hour. I can not recall her name, but she was Asian and good looking. I'd say that she was in her mid to late 30's. She was wearing a red dress which was a good sign that I'd at least get a HJ. After about 10 minutes of a back massage she asked me to flip and asked what I wanted. For the first time in my 9 years of mongering I decided to obtains a CBJ. I paid her 60 upfront. She went out grabbed a rubber and proceeded. I was nervous, but still managed to be hard. After a few minutes I blew inside the bag. Since this was the first time I get more than a HJ I didn't really care for putting FIV or grabbing her nice pair of twins which she took out prior to giving me head. This place does not have rooms. The "rooms" are made up of curtains which is interesting. I could only imagine being able to hear everything when multiple providers are working haha. Everything is offered here. You all stay safe and report back if you experience or have experienced this place as I am thinking of going back.

Dre1980
03-12-21, 14:47
What are everyone's thought on recording during massage and uploading?Ask Baldy Cruiser.

Ashmolean
03-12-21, 15:57
If you're really interested in the mansacping, don't wax. Its painful as FUCK and the results don't last. IF you just want to try it out, and get a HJ from a cute girl with nice tits, book with the beauty waxing queen. You can find her under that name on instagram. She only charges $40 for chest abdomen and "bikini" I give her her $60 tip as she takes off her top or pulls down gg her dress and allows titty sucking and FIV. She's fun. So for Benjamin you're waxed and drained!Can't find her on IG. Is she in OC?

Grimmy23
03-12-21, 20:18
So the little head started begging for attention this afternoon, and I decided to make a short trek up the 605 to a new (I think) place in Downey, right off the 105 freeway. It's at Lakewood / Gardendale, very freeway close, tucked into a small strip mall next to a hold in the wall Mexican restaurant. I know it's not OC but it's only 15 minutes from the OC line in light traffic. Very little parking in the back, so if the restaurant is busy you may have to park on a residential street. No biggie. Entrance is in back. You go back there and ring the doorbell and wait. A young, super cute Chinese (I think. She wasn't Korean and her face was too round to be Viet) came to the door wearing a t-shirt and spandex pants. She led me to a room, collected the. 4 house fee, and told me to get comfortable. This place advertises in the Long Beach section of BP that you get to choose your girl. That wasn't the case here, but I wasn't surprised. I've never actually found an MP around here that gave a lineup, so it's expected. Anyway, after getting comfortable, the girl that let me in came into the room. She did about 5 minutes of the usual AMP lame back rub. Next thing I know I hear slurping sounds and she's kissing the back of my legs, butt cheeks, and up my spine. I felt her tits brushing across my butt and back as she was giving little slurpy kisses. She started to reach under so I got up on my knees. She played with junior and started licking, sucking, and nibbling on my sack and kissing the insides of my thighs. She did this for a good 5 minutes, which felt amazing. Then she had me turn over.

On the flip she still had her shirt pulled up so I could see a nice perky pair of C's. Without wasting any time she asked "how much are you going to tip?" I told her $ and she said ok. I didn't negotiate services. I just wanted to see what that would get me here. She proceeded with a wet, slurpy BBBJ+CIM, which included a lot of tongue action and started with her swirling her tongue around the head. It was one of the better BBBJs I've had in one of these places. After I finished in her mouth she spit it ut on my stomach and cleaned up with a hot towel. Finished up with a few minutes of massage, then helped me get dressed and I was out the door. Total time in the building, about 20 minutes.

I might repeat. The girl was cute, and I saw another girl on the way out who was also young and cute. The BBBJ was skillful. It was your typical quickie in and out place and I wasn't able to get her pants down (I tried but no go without being forceful, which I wasn't going to do today). I'm sure FS is on the menu if that's what you're after.

MikeSilero00
03-12-21, 20:32
I drove by the other day and Open sign was on. Doesn't mean they are open I guess but maybe they regrouped.They are definitely open but I only liked 1 of the 3 providers I saw. Even if you request someone they give you someone different. I'd avoid.

BigJohn9
03-12-21, 21:58
Can't find her on IG. Is she in OC?Not beauty waxing queen.

NoClue02
03-12-21, 23:12
In orange, has anyone been there recently? Who do you recommend?

BigJohn9
03-12-21, 23:12
Can't find her on IG. Is she in OC?Does anyone know her name and address.

Danny2
03-13-21, 03:08
In orange, has anyone been there recently? Who do you recommend?None. Most of them are fat with GPS LOL.

Wireless91910
03-13-21, 12:33
I heard he's either the husband or boyfriend of the girl one runs the place. He bought it for her. I ran into him once as he was sitting on the chairs in the waiting area.

Nice guy, but does kinda throw you off when you first see him.


Anyone have a white Papasan before? It totally threw me off yesterday.

Went to Oasis Spa in SA yesterday. No one was at the front desk. A minute later, a white gentleman who looked like he was in his 60's came strolling down the hall. Was sporting a trucker cap and has a huge white Santa Claus like beard. I thought it was a fellow monger who just had wrapped up a session, but it took me back by surprise when he asked how I was doing, and how long I wanted to stay for. The only masseuse there came up shortly thereafter to take care of payment and everything, and while she was doing so, he kept on bending his head to check her semi-decent ass. Don't know why but the whole experience threw me off.

BenderOver
03-13-21, 13:52
I heard he's either the husband or boyfriend of the girl one runs the place. He bought it for her. I ran into him once as he was sitting on the chairs in the waiting area.

Nice guy, but does kinda throw you off when you first see him.I posted about a visit with Nancy at Happy Warner a while back and Wireless91910 sent me some additional intel and recommendations on that joint that worked out exactly as described. Thanks for the share, Wireless! Seniors and people who have contributed can msg me for info.

Late 40's mainland Chinese.

L face 6 best to leave the covid mask on, body 6. 5 (high points on most of the goods, but barreled torso body).

A 9.

S 9 if you're into the bb menu.

E 40+120.

Are Would recommend if you're in a pinch and like the bb. On the fence about repeating. Nothing wrong with the visit, just been putting the little guy into a few bb situations that I would sometimes prefer to reserve for hot girls.

Dildo Baggens
03-13-21, 14:21
So the little head started begging for attention this afternoon, and I decided to make a short trek up the 605 to a new (I think) place in Downey, right off the 105 freeway. It's at Lakewood / Gardendale, very freeway close, tucked into a small strip mall next to a hold in the wall Mexican restaurant. I know it's not OC but it's only 15 minutes from the OC line in light traffic. Very little parking in the back, so if the restaurant is busy you may have to park on a residential street. No biggie. Entrance is in back. You go back there and ring the doorbell and wait. A young, super cute Chinese (I think. She wasn't Korean and her face was too round to be Viet) came to the door wearing a t-shirt and spandex pants. She led me to a room, collected the. 4 house fee, and told me to get comfortable. This place advertises in the Long Beach section of BP that you get to choose your girl. That wasn't the case here, but I wasn't surprised. I've never actually found an MP around here that gave a lineup, so it's expected. Anyway, after getting comfortable, the girl that let me in came into the room. She did about 5 minutes of the usual AMP lame back rub. Next thing I know I hear slurping sounds and she's kissing the back of my legs, butt cheeks, and up my spine. I felt her tits brushing across my butt and back as she was giving little slurpy kisses. She started to reach under so I got up on my knees. She played with junior and started licking, sucking, and nibbling on my sack and kissing the insides of my thighs. She did this for a good 5 minutes, which felt amazing. Then she had me turn over.

On the flip she still had her shirt pulled up so I could see a nice perky pair of C's. Without wasting any time she asked "how much are you going to tip?" I told her $ and she said ok. I didn't negotiate services. I just wanted to see what that would get me here. She proceeded with a wet, slurpy BBBJ+CIM, which included a lot of tongue action and started with her swirling her tongue around the head. It was one of the better BBBJs I've had in one of these places. After I finished in her mouth she spit it ut on my stomach and cleaned up with a hot towel. Finished up with a few minutes of massage, then helped me get dressed and I was out the door. Total time in the building, about 20 minutes.

I might repeat. The girl was cute, and I saw another girl on the way out who was also young and cute. The BBBJ was skillful. It was your typical quickie in and out place and I wasn't able to get her pants down (I tried but no go without being forceful, which I wasn't going to do today). I'm sure FS is on the menu if that's what you're after.Can you PM me for the location and the time and day of the week you were there? A name of the provider would be a plus as well.

Great review!!

Baggens.

Dildo Baggens
03-13-21, 14:24
Ask Baldy Cruiser.I second that! I've been on here long enough when that all went down.

Danny2
03-13-21, 14:54
Anyone have a white Papasan before? It totally threw me off yesterday.

Went to Oasis Spa in SA yesterday. No one was at the front desk. A minute later, a white gentleman who looked like he was in his 60's came strolling down the hall. Was sporting a trucker cap and has a huge white Santa Claus like beard. I thought it was a fellow monger who just had wrapped up a session, but it took me back by surprise when he asked how I was doing, and how long I wanted to stay for. The only masseuse there came up shortly thereafter to take care of payment and everything, and while she was doing so, he kept on bending his head to check her semi-decent ass. Don't know why but the whole experience threw me off.Lavander in SGV used to have a white papasan.

NoClue02
03-13-21, 16:16
None. Most of them are fat with GPS LOL.Damn, that bad huh LOL.

Hornilius69
03-13-21, 17:20
Late 40's mainland Chinese.

L face 6 best to leave the covid mask on, body 6. 5 (high points on most of the goods, but barreled torso body).

A 9.

S 9 if you're into the bb menu.

E 40+120.

I usually paid 120 for everything including the door fee.

Hadez
03-13-21, 19:21
Ask Baldy Cruiser.Best reply I have seen in a while.

Props to those willing to risk taking pics / videos and sharing. It is a risk.

DeeNewGuy
03-13-21, 20:29
Have been wanting to check this spot out for a little bit since someone posted about it here. Actually tried going about two months ago but walked up and the door was closed there was people standing outside the smoke shop so didn't wait too long and walked back to my car. Walked right in this time but there was nobody at the front heard the heels coming and was greeted by them / Emily in her sexy little mini skirt. Told her I wanted 30 minutes and she collected my 2 Jackson's. Lead me to my room, got undressed and waited face down. She comes in about 7 minutes later and started a light rub. She had really soft hands and they felt nice but not much of a massage got close enough and I slid my hand up her skirt did that for about 10 minutes and made small talk. She is petite little ass but looked nice with the leather skirt. Nice perky tits and wasn't wearing a bra. On flip she asked what I wanted and I replied with what's on the menu? She said whatever I want. Asked for a BJ and wanted a Benjamin and Jackson. Told her I only had 4 Jackson's but she didn't budge. Told her next time and that I'd like a happy ending. Was rubbing her ass and tits while she was stroking jr. Nice finish, she cleaned me up and brought me water. Gave her 3 Jackson's and got dressed. Will definitely repeat soon. Wanted 2 Benjamin's for FS in case you are wondering. Happy Mongering boys and keep posting those great reviews so I can decide on my next adventure.

Caribe
03-13-21, 21:02
I heard he's either the husband or boyfriend of the girl one runs the place. He bought it for her. I ran into him once as he was sitting on the chairs in the waiting area.

Nice guy, but does kinda throw you off when you first see him.Is that Tina that still owns Oasis?

NineInches
03-13-21, 21:21
I heard he's either the husband or boyfriend of the girl one runs the place. He bought it for her. I ran into him once as he was sitting on the chairs in the waiting area.

Nice guy, but does kinda throw you off when you first see him.I think we have the same situation here in La Mesa Diamond Spa. The wife is Chinese 50+ decent looking. I wouldn't mind banging her. I asked my MT if she and the white man were the owners. My MT said yes.

I've never had FS at this spa mostly HE and so close to FS. DATY and FIV is found.

Cheers.

MongerMan37
03-13-21, 21:53
Damn, that bad huh LOL.And not to mention extremely overpriced. Saw a girl about 2 months ago. Name might have been Anna. She wasn't fat but wasn't slim either. I did see some thicker girls while walking in an out though. I was stupid enough to pay the girl I saw $170 for a lame 20 minutes. I think that Julia OC works there on Mondays whom I'd also consider overpriced.

BigRedTrkr
03-13-21, 22:29
Does anyone know where the girls from the BodyCare Center landed?

Hornilius69
03-14-21, 04:49
FS at Le Palace, one Benji is good enough or Benji and Jackson.

BigJohn9
03-14-21, 12:04
Here are all the places that I've been to, or heard of that do manscaping with HJ:

Barberwaxingqueen. Reported a ton on here, IG tag is barberwaxingqueen714, but that's probably the chick you've mentioned in your post. Last I heard she wasn't taking in new clients, and when I tried to call her near the end of last year she didn't respond. But I heard for value and for service she's the best one in the area, if you can get an appointment with her.

All Seasons Day Spa. Haven't been here in a long long time, don't even know if the usual estheticians Nancy and Amy are working here still, but this place is known for giving HJs and I'm sure if you manage to get a wax here you'll get a HJ if you just ask. I haven't gotten a HJ post wax but I have gotten one post massage from Yvonne, who I don't recommend. Nancy and Amy are more on the MILF side, and the info I have here predates Covid. I would call and ask if wax is available if anyone's interested before stopping by.

Vy Massage. I got the cheapest wax here, $40 from the attractive MILF who I'm sure no longer works here, I heard from another girl, a former worker that they changed owners. They went from not legit to legit back to not legit, so at the very least if you stop by you'll get a HJ. I know for a fact a girl that regularly offers FS works here, so this may be a FS spot now. Not sure if they offer wax, like All Seasons Day Spa I would call before stopping by. Number on Google is the new number, don't use the one on Yelp.

TLC Day Spa. I think this might be my favorite spot for waxing now. The people who do wax here are Tanya and Tiffany, and Tiffany now goes by Lily apparently. Tanya is older and I would never want to get waxed or massaged by her, but I heard from the girls who work here that she's really nice. Tiffany the first two times I got waxed there was no fun after even though I was sure she does HJ, she was a cute albeit chubby mid 20's Viet, but the most recent time I saw her I actually thought she looked extremely attractive. She lost a lot of weight, and her body looks really great now, I was really happy to see her looking a lot better. Wax wise she was attentive as always, she made sure everything was smooth down there and really spent a lot of time making sure everything was too my liking. Near the end she said finished, but I asked her for more lotion to be applied, and she got the hint, applied some oil and stroked my cock until it got hard, then bluntly asked if I wanted hand. I say yeah, she giggles, then she starts the fun as I'm able to lift up her shirt and kiss her big breasts to completion. Tipped only $50, price of wax was $60, for guys who want a good wax even without any fun after I recommend this place. I think they also have a deal for hr massage and wax too, so for anyone interested in that ask ahead, and for masseuses, the attractive ones, I would recommend Vicky, Lily, or Nancy before she takes off back to Singapore. Annie is a better masseuse but she's older and for guys who want someone young I would stick with the first three.

Little Beauty Center. Haven't been back here in a while, but for those on here saying Linh / Daisy's been unresponsive, she went back to work last week. She's apparently not taking appointments later than 5 anymore, but for those wanting to try her out, she's back. I don't recommend her as she's too moody and kind of a flake, but she is an attractive Viet MILF with more of a nicer body than an attractive face; it's aged, if I were to guess age I might guess early 40's. If you catch her on a good day she's great, since I got intel from another monger saying he had A LOT of fun with her, but I've had one too many unpleasant experiences with her, and for others similar, that makes me hesitant to go back.

Eclat Day Spa. Think the owner removed this spa from Rmaps LOL. They're pretty selective on who they want to see, but the lone time I went here I got a HJ from Kate, a really attractive Viet MILF with a killer body and a face to match. She is moody though, her service for the HJ afterwards wasn't that sensual, but she did do a good job even though I remember the wax taking a while. Don't think she's the only girl here that does a wax with HJ, I think another Tiffany here does the same, but last time I was here I did leave happy. Damage was $60 for wax I believe, tip was $80 which is an overpay, but I wanted to see her drop down that dress she had on.

Suphattra's Retreat. The guy who posted right before you reported here about his experience. Sorry that you didn't get the 4 hands wax that I got here last time, you'd have to make sure Annie is working the same day as Jenny to even have a chance of that happening. Jenny is an okay looking Viet who's around 40-50, she has a pouch but her breasts are big and over the wax I found her more and more attractive. Annie's the one you'd want, she's realistically early 30's but looks younger than that, she's a cute looking Viet spinner who finished me off while Jenny rubbed my balls. Got both their tops off for it, and I left extremely satisfied. But as you said, wax itself was lackluster, and even with the two of them I remember it took a while for it to get done. Damage was $60 for wax, and tip was $60 overall, not each. I remember Annie wanted $80 for her top off, but haggle it down.

Amazing Spa. So I know they do wax here, I even saw they had the machine and wax, but when Yvonne took me in for a cheap $40 she ended up just using a razer instead of waxing me. She in the middle used wax on one portion, but just said it's easier and better with the razer and went back to that. Offered me HJ afterward but I said no. Don't recommend, but grooming is to be had here.

The Gardens Wellness Spa. Completely legit as far as my past experiences. Lily is usually the one to do wax and she's average yet attractive, I actually got hard during the wax but she's a pro and just kept at it. Didn't even entertain the thought of asking HJ afterwards, but recently when I got waxed from an around 50's Viet named Nikita, after all the pain was over, she was rubbing aloe vera while my knees were on the table all over my ass, groin and even stroked my cock. I got hard, but since I didn't find her attractive nor did I expect a HJ I didn't dare ask. So maybe you might get one here if you're lucky? Not sure if I would try. Damage was $60 for the brazilian, I tip $20 since the wax here is genuinely good, and I like supporting these legitimate establishments from time to time.

Only other place I thought about trying was OC Barber and Day Spa. They advertise on backpage, they have a listing on Rmaps, but when I made an appointment past 7 they were already closed by the time I got here. I think Kelly is the one you'd want to go to here for wax, but regarding looks, service, pricing I wouldn't know. I also got a wax from a tubby Viet MILF named Annabelle at Serenity Spa in Lake Forest, but I've heard now that they're a nuru spot that advertises a lot on backpage and IG, and I don't think they do wax here anymore.So has anyone been to see Daisy at LBC lately.

Hadez
03-14-21, 15:11
Make sure and call for appointment. The shaving girl is not always there. The message girl was not too shabby. Late 30's with nice looking boobies. Maybe a little extra in the belly. Hard to tell with loose shirt and pants. House wants $40 for 30 min.

Saving my money for TJ or I would have given her a try.


A new outfit has opened in the same spt as the former Banzai Healing on Lincoln.

Got junior a trim (shave) and wax the crack with a natural busty gal who allowed some nice acces to the girls.

https://orangecounty.rubratings.com/138788

MongerMan37
03-14-21, 15:14
Disappointing experience at Rose Spa at Fair today. This place was probably my go to for good looking Asians who generally provide a good service. I started out with a young good looking woman with a nice body and she spoke relatively good English which is a plus. About 5 minutes in someone comes to door and it looks like a regular had requested her. The other girl was still good looking just a bit older. The teasing was nice and I was ready. Then the tip negotiating started. I brought 120 which I always do here, but she kept saying 140 and even forced me to open my wallet. Already killing my vibes. I happened to have another 10 which she took. She stated a CBJ and got me like 75% hard. Then gets in missionary position and I try to go in. She kept her hand around my dick at the base preventing me to go in to deep which further killed my vibe. I kept trying to remove her hand to go deeper but she wouldn't let me. I ended up going soft and she ended up giving me a HJ.

Yamii8
03-14-21, 17:36
Anyone care to share there Wildest experience with Lucy at FnC maybe a thread strictly of her?

Samurai316
03-14-21, 18:50
Sorry guys but I can't find info on white Swan on SA, is this place FS?

Thanks a lot.Go and report back what you found. It's common to provide some sort of info before requesting. If you want FS, ask what's available and be ready to negotiate if it is.

BigBoDonk
03-14-21, 19:10
Bro your inbox is full Share the information with us.


I posted about a visit with Nancy at Happy Warner a while back and Wireless91910 sent me some additional intel and recommendations on that joint that worked out exactly as described. Thanks for the share, Wireless! Seniors and people who have contributed can msg me for info.

Late 40's mainland Chinese.

L face 6 best to leave the covid mask on, body 6. 5 (high points on most of the goods, but barreled torso body).

A 9.

S 9 if you're into the bb menu.

E 40+120.

Are Would recommend if you're in a pinch and like the bb. On the fence about repeating. Nothing wrong with the visit, just been putting the little guy into a few bb situations that I would sometimes prefer to reserve for hot girls.

BigBoDonk
03-14-21, 19:16
Damn, that bad huh LOL.Bro where is location with fat girls, I was looking for those kind.

Quincy88
03-14-21, 20:47
Disappointing experience at Rose Spa at Fair today. This place was probably my go to for good looking Asians who generally provide a good service. I started out with a young good looking woman with a nice body and she spoke relatively good English which is a plus. About 5 minutes in someone comes to door and it looks like a regular had requested her. The other girl was still good looking just a bit older. The teasing was nice and I was ready. Then the tip negotiating started. I brought 120 which I always do here, but she kept saying 140 and even forced me to open my wallet. Already killing my vibes. I happened to have another 10 which she took. She stated a CBJ and got me like 75% hard. Then gets in missionary position and I try to go in. She kept her hand around my dick at the base preventing me to go in to deep which further killed my vibe. I kept trying to remove her hand to go deeper but she wouldn't let me. I ended up going soft and she ended up giving me a HJ.Should never give these women control whatsoever! When she asked to see your wallet I would've got up and left, got to think with the big head amd not the little one.

Booyah63
03-15-21, 02:24
Does anyone know where the girls from the BodyCare Center landed?They are in Lake Forest now.

Van Deventer
03-15-21, 14:41
They are in Lake Forest now.Appreciate the update. Does anyone know of a good substitute for BCC (similar types of girls and service) that is closer to Garden Grove? Lake Forest is a little far for me given the time limitations I have.

Thanks in advance.

HeadHunter1969
03-15-21, 16:18
Can't find her on IG. Is she in OC?My bad. Barberwaxingqueen714 on instagram.

GenghisK2
03-16-21, 01:38
My bad. Barberwaxingqueen714 on instagram.She's seeing her regulars but avoiding new customers right now due to covid concerns.

If you can get in she's well worth it.

Bronco
03-16-21, 10:43
Does anyone know where the girls from the BodyCare Center landed?Is this the place by the DMV?

JayJayTer
03-16-21, 11:42
She's seeing her regulars but avoiding new customers right now due to covid concerns.

If you can get in she's well worth it.Yeah I got a text saying she is booked up all this week.

SpoonTubs
03-16-21, 15:22
Rose at Nirvana is the same girl in the ads. She looks even better in person with a killer bod (fake but well inserted) and petite frame.

Massages are meh but you go to Nirvana strictly for Rose.

SpoonTubs
03-16-21, 15:23
Anyone know of any spots with petite milfs? I'm looking for 40+, 5'2 or shorter, 100 pounds or lighter.

GreenStream
03-16-21, 15:50
You can do a great job with just a razor and sharing cream. Back when Irvine Spa was open, many guys liked to use the free razors, shaving cream and sit-down shower to clean up their pubic hair. To trim hair on your scrotum, a body grooming shaver is handy. Of course, I understand that the grooming ladies could be fun to see.

Slammer6008
03-16-21, 16:10
Yeah I got a text saying she is booked up all this week.I'm telling you I would just leave this one alone. Call her in January 2022. Her team is full.

Slammer6008
03-16-21, 16:11
I'm telling you I would just leave this one alone. Call her in January 2022. Her team is full.Everyone had a chance when she had her tryouts.

Slammer6008
03-16-21, 16:13
Everyone had a chance when she had her tryouts.By the way I'm batting 💪third.

StubbornMule
03-16-21, 18:19
I saw Ava at VT spa in Westminster. She previously worked at Honey and is easy to find on IG. She was an attractive Viet in her thirties, a bit on thicker side, with nice soft naturals she was more than happy to rub in my face. An excellent conversationalist, one of the sweetest and most chatty girls I've come across. Finished in Russian. Paid 1. 85 for the hour in total. Would recommend if you like Nuru or thicker Asians.

BkForever
03-16-21, 19:04
I saw Ava at VT spa in Westminster. She previously worked at Honey and is easy to find on IG. She was an attractive Viet in her thirties, a bit on thicker side, with nice soft naturals she was more than happy to rub in my face. An excellent conversationalist, one of the sweetest and most chatty girls I've come across. Finished in Russian. Paid 1. 85 for the hour in total. Would recommend if you like Nuru or thicker Asians.What's the ig?

Stockholm
03-16-21, 20:58
I saw Ava at VT spa in Westminster. She previously worked at Honey and is easy to find on IG. She was an attractive Viet in her thirties, a bit on thicker side, with nice soft naturals she was more than happy to rub in my face. An excellent conversationalist, one of the sweetest and most chatty girls I've come across. Finished in Russian. Paid 1. 85 for the hour in total. Would recommend if you like Nuru or thicker Asians.Is this her?

https://www.instagram.com/avaocmassage/

StubbornMule
03-16-21, 22:49
Is this her?

https://www.instagram.com/avaocmassage/Nope, this is her: https://www.instagram.com/massageava/.

It's a bit confusing. Two different providers in OC have the same name. The one you posted is more CMT style, less sensual, if I understand correctly (I've never seen her though).

Ksujira
03-17-21, 00:51
Nope, this is her: https://www.instagram.com/massageava/.

It's a bit confusing. Two different providers in OC have the same name. The one you posted is more CMT style, less sensual, if I understand correctly (I've never seen her though).Yeah Avoc is licensed, so you go to her if you actually want a real massage with happy at the end. The happy is whatever, but it's not the main reason people get a massage from her.

Ashmolean
03-17-21, 15:34
My bad. Barberwaxingqueen714 on instagram.Awesome. Thanks!

StubbornMule
03-17-21, 17:03
Yeah Avoc is licensed, so you go to her if you actually want a real massage with happy at the end. The happy is whatever, but it's not the main reason people get a massage from her.Is Avoc any good? How are her looks? What's the damage?

Tmerrr
03-17-21, 17:22
Does anyone know of a spa or provider that has a milking table?

Meshugga
03-17-21, 19:06
I pulled into the parking lot of my favorite Mexican place in CM, which is in the same plaza as Sunshine Spa. I've seen this place many times but never pulled the trigger. My stomach said burrito, my little head said let's get dessert first. I had cash in my pocket and was in a YOLO and sex-deprived mood so I walked in. The woman who came out turns out her name is Lilly. Mid to late thirties maybe (she had a mask on most the time) and an average looking body. I got undressed after she showed me to my room. I wasn't really in the mood for a massage, so when she approached the table I flipped over "introduced" myself.

She apparently was about as interested in a massage as I was. She made the motion like she was cross country skiing, I nodded, we set a number and she started CBJ. Then lifted her dress and laid down for mish. She's got a scar on her belly, it didn't bother me but might bother others. Flipped her over for K9 and filled the bag. She cleaned me up, pretended to start to massage my legs, but I told her thanks time to go.

Very transactional. She moaned and talked dirty, but she's not going to win a Golden Globe any time soon. Total damage 1. 6 for half hr. It was ok, she was clean and friendly, but not high on my list for a repeat.

It's by Vegan by El Zamorano. Try the chile relleno burrito. It's better than the sex a few doors down.

YellowFinTuna
03-17-21, 19:44
I finally made the trip up to Downey and scheduled with Chanel because Melanie wasn't available. 10 on attitude, 10 on time (the entire hour. Amazing) and a 9 on looks. I was expecting a Latina based on the IG link but Chanel is Waspy. The best bolt-on's I've ever felt or seen. Perfect. She allowed roaming almost everywhere and was a great conversationalist. I could spend an hour just talking with her. Chanel's massage skills were so-so though. I'd give it a 3 on the massage and a 3 on the ending because she got a hammery but she did have a great grip and erotic whispering compared to some who are too soft.

Luna is an awesome MMS and the place is fairly clean and super super secure. This is like the old Honey was in CM before it changed to Aroma-I don't go there anymore, place. If fact. I would say that many of the girls at Haven are from the original Honey. For the long drive and the cost ($205 OTD), I may repeat but it will be a few months and I'll try to get someone else, Melanie or Scarlet or.

Stockholm
03-17-21, 21:11
Nope, this is her: https://www.instagram.com/massageava/.

It's a bit confusing. Two different providers in OC have the same name. The one you posted is more CMT style, less sensual, if I understand correctly (I've never seen her though).Bummer her IG is private. Is that her real face? If it is, I'm getting innarested.

Grimmy23
03-17-21, 21:22
I finally made the trip up to Downey and scheduled with Chanel because Melanie wasn't available. 10 on attitude, 10 on time (the entire hour. Amazing) and a 9 on looks. I was expecting a Latina based on the IG link but Chanel is Waspy. The best bolt-on's I've ever felt or seen. Perfect. She allowed roaming almost everywhere and was a great conversationalist. I could spend an hour just talking with her. Chanel's massage skills were so-so though. I'd give it a 3 on the massage and a 3 on the ending because she got a hammery but she did have a great grip and erotic whispering compared to some who are too soft.

Luna is an awesome MMS and the place is fairly clean and super super secure. This is like the old Honey was in CM before it changed to Aroma-I don't go there anymore, place. If fact. I would say that many of the girls at Haven are from the original Honey. For the long drive and the cost ($205 OTD), I may repeat but it will be a few months and I'll try to get someone else, Melanie or Scarlet or.That's Havana in a nutshell. All the girls are hot and mostly home grown, all great attitudes, and they spend the full hour with you. You know exactly what you're going to pay and exactly what you're going to get. Some give better releases than others but that's just natural. Melanie is my favorite there but I want to see Daisy and Selena. Last time I was there Melanie walked in when I barely had my shoes off and finished undressing me, which was pretty hot.

People keep saying that $205 is too expensive for a HJ. To me it's more than just the HJ though, it's the entire package. In comparison, I spent $140 at the other place in Downey and got BBBJ there, but I was also in and out of the door in about 20 minutes and didn't get the girl's pants down.

MongerMan37
03-17-21, 23:52
I finally made the trip up to Downey and scheduled with Chanel because Melanie wasn't available. 10 on attitude, 10 on time (the entire hour. Amazing) and a 9 on looks. I was expecting a Latina based on the IG link but Chanel is Waspy. The best bolt-on's I've ever felt or seen. Perfect. She allowed roaming almost everywhere and was a great conversationalist. I could spend an hour just talking with her. Chanel's massage skills were so-so though. I'd give it a 3 on the massage and a 3 on the ending because she got a hammery but she did have a great grip and erotic whispering compared to some who are too soft.

Luna is an awesome MMS and the place is fairly clean and super super secure. This is like the old Honey was in CM before it changed to Aroma-I don't go there anymore, place. If fact. I would say that many of the girls at Haven are from the original Honey. For the long drive and the cost ($205 OTD), I may repeat but it will be a few months and I'll try to get someone else, Melanie or Scarlet or.I know you saw Chanel, but a little side note about Melanie. If anyone remembers seeing a girl named Natalie back at the honey spa days. That is Melanie.

Heartless Jay
03-18-21, 00:22
Does anyone know of a spa or provider that has a milking table?Are you talking about a glory hole table? If that's what you're asking, I've never seen such a thing in this country. With glory hole tables, an AMP couldn't even pretend to be a legit establishment.

Heartless Jay
03-18-21, 00:36
First visit to Harbor Spa today. Entry fee 35 for 60 minutes (massage lasted 50 minutes). Pulled Nikki, the only girl available. Very standard Chinese provider, mid 30's, mid length hair, cute face but not a beauty, small build but fat around the middle. Massage a solid B, teasing on the backside maybe B minus. On the flip, played hard sell on her price, between 10 and 20 above average, even making me do the swinging boner dance over to get my wallet before starting. Negotiated as topless HJ but she refused to remove her top. Allowed me to reach under for some over the bra touching. HJ was a C minus, her heart just wasn't in it. The place itself was clean enough, room with a door but walls don't go all the way up. Can hear every sound in the next stall. Worst part was that the place reeked of cigarette smoke fron 168 next door. Had to leave my clothes in the garage when I got home. Conclusion: place was recommended to me by a fellow monger, but his girl was not available. So his experience was probably better than mine. Nonetheless I will not repeat. So many better options.

Tersmcs
03-18-21, 01:08
Here are all the places that I've been to, or heard of that do manscaping with HJ:
Vy Massage. I got the cheapest wax here, $40 from the attractive MILF who I'm sure no longer works here, I heard from another girl, a former worker that they changed owners. They went from not legit to legit back to not legit, so at the very least if you stop by you'll get a HJ. I know for a fact a girl that regularly offers FS works here, so this may be a FS spot now. Not sure if they offer wax, like All Seasons Day Spa I would call before stopping by. Number on Google is the new number, don't use the one on Yelp.

TLC Day Spa. I think this might be my favorite spot for waxing now. The people who do wax here are Tanya and Tiffany, and Tiffany now goes by Lily apparently. Tanya is older and I would never want to get waxed or massaged by her, but I heard from the girls who work here that she's really nice. Tiffany the first two times I got waxed there was no fun after even though I was sure she does HJ, she was a cute albeit chubby mid 20's Viet, but the most recent time I saw her I actually thought she looked extremely attractive. She lost a lot of weight, and her body looks really great now, I was really happy to see her looking a lot better. Wax wise she was attentive as always, she made sure everything was smooth down there and really spent a lot of time making sure everything was too my liking. Near the end she said finished, but I asked her for more lotion to be applied, and she got the hint, applied some oil and stroked my cock until it got hard, then bluntly asked if I wanted hand. I say yeah, she giggles, then she starts the fun as I'm able to lift up her shirt and kiss her big breasts to completion. Tipped only $50, price of wax was $60, for guys who want a good wax even without any fun after I recommend this place. I think they also have a deal for hr massage and wax too, so for anyone interested in that ask ahead, and for masseuses, the attractive ones, I would recommend Vicky, Lily, or Nancy before she takes off back to Singapore. Annie is a better masseuse but she's older and for guys who want someone young I would stick with the first three.Called TLC the other day and ask if Tiffany / Lily was available. Was told yes, and they supposedly had me down for a waxing appointment in the afternoon. Stopped by in the afternoon, and an old lady greeted me (sounded like the same one who answered the phone, but couldn't be sure). Told her I was there for waxing from Lily, she was like "ok wait in the room I'll get ready". I asked again if it's going to be Lily, only to be told that she no longer works there (ugh.) and that she would be waxing me while another girl would come in and massage me afterward. Decided to just walk away but the old lady started pushing different girls on me "ok so just massage? What about this girl?" Pretty uncomfortable stuff. She then got another, slightly younger (but still on the older side) lady who was visibly annoyed. "What do you want? No massage?" I thought, screw it, and asked if Nancy was there. The young-old lady told me to wait in the room and came back with a young looking (she never took off her mask the entire time) and skinnier girl came in. Ok massage, ok finish, but I don't really like the "bait & switch" feel so still not sure if I will return.

Glad to hear that Vy may be going back to being more than legit now, but apparently Josie no longer works there, so I'm not in too much of a rush to visit.


Went to Serenity in Lake Forest a couple Saturdays ago. Asked for hot Asian. Got what I asked for when Hailey came in. Said she was 24 - looked about that. She was really cute had a great body. Small tits and tight, round ass. Got the 45 minute massage. Hailey gave a great massage for about 20 minutes then oiled my legs and ass up and did some great teasing on the boys and ass for a few minutes and got me to attention big time. On the flip she asked if I wanted NURU and I said yes. She took off her clothes and oiled me all up on front and started rubbing her body up and down while stroking me and then she did the best camel toe slide while I was sucking her tits. She got really turned while she was rubbing her pussy on my shaft. Made me blow quicker than I wanted! Highly recommend this place. Hailey only works weekends. House. 55 NURU 1. 2.I had Bella with Serenity a few weeks ago. Had a good experience. Looked about mid 20's as well, shoulder length iirc, great communication, pretty good tease and nuru. The finish was definitely one of the better one I had. Will definitely return. Wonder if she does 4 hand with this Hailey girl.

Also had the chance to book a session with Trish last week. Trish's massage was still top notch, and well worth the price on it's own. She was super friendly and talkative too, which I like because it makes the session less awkward. It's just that she seemed and sounded a little bit older. I would personally have no problem seeing her at a legit only place, but not sure how I feel seeing her at a parlor. YMMV.

Ksujira
03-18-21, 02:12
Is Avoc any good? How are her looks? What's the damage?She's good, if you're looking for a real massage.

https://privatedelights.ch/profile/Avaocmassage

TheMoleYou
03-18-21, 13:57
Hey Guys, I used to see Tiffany at BCC (Fairview in Santa Ana) and then I continued to see her when they moved to Fountain Valley and Lake Forest. Tried to book with her recently and they told me she no longer worked there. Does anyone know where she works at now? Thanks!

A1287
03-18-21, 16:33
I saw Ava at VT spa in Westminster. She previously worked at Honey and is easy to find on IG. She was an attractive Viet in her thirties, a bit on thicker side, with nice soft naturals she was more than happy to rub in my face. An excellent conversationalist, one of the sweetest and most chatty girls I've come across. Finished in Russian. Paid 1. 85 for the hour in total. Would recommend if you like Nuru or thicker Asians.Is she the same one from aroma / honey?

Quincy88
03-18-21, 17:57
I pulled into the parking lot of my favorite Mexican place in CM, which is in the same plaza as Sunshine Spa. I've seen this place many times but never pulled the trigger. My stomach said burrito, my little head said let's get dessert first. I had cash in my pocket and was in a YOLO and sex-deprived mood so I walked in. The woman who came out turns out her name is Lilly. Mid to late thirties maybe (she had a mask on most the time) and an average looking body. I got undressed after she showed me to my room. I wasn't really in the mood for a massage, so when she approached the table I flipped over "introduced" myself.

She apparently was about as interested in a massage as I was. She made the motion like she was cross country skiing, I nodded, we set a number and she started CBJ. Then lifted her dress and laid down for mish. She's got a scar on her belly, it didn't bother me but might bother others. Flipped her over for K9 and filled the bag. She cleaned me up, pretended to start to massage my legs, but I told her thanks time to go.

Very transactional. She moaned and talked dirty, but she's not going to win a Golden Globe any time soon. Total damage 1. 6 for half hr. It was ok, she was clean and friendly, but not high on my list for a repeat.

It's by Vegan by El Zamorano. Try the chile relleno burrito. It's better than the sex a few doors down. Excellent review!

MongerMan37
03-18-21, 18:04
Body care was mentioned recently. Has anyone actually been lately? All the girls look different from the ones back in the day. Last I went here, I saw some Asian girl named Kenny. Wasn't a fan. She looked nothing like photo. That was when they initially moved to fountain valley.

Curious how the new talent is? Or if it's same girls with different names. The Instagram is nuru_stars1 if anyone was interested.

StubbornMule
03-18-21, 19:42
Bummer her IG is private. Is that her real face? If it is, I'm getting innarested.If you just request to follow her you shouldn't have any trouble viewing her page. No, I don't think that's her real face, but she is reasonably cute, a bit on the thicker side as I said.

RGarcia123
03-19-21, 05:20
Has anyone recently seen VipNuruGoddess? What ethnicity is she? Worth it?

Eccaios
03-19-21, 12:14
Overall, it was alright / borderline disappointing compared to how I envisioned this place. I'll probably give it another shot to try out a Latina here as that's what I wanted from this place. If I get her again I would probably only do $ for CFS and if she doesn't budge then just a CBJ. Didn't bother exchanging names but she is a light skinned Thai with big bolt ons and thick ass maybe around 5'5" ish.Yeah, I've given up on this place. The prices went up, and the talent went down. The Latina isn't worth it. You could hop over to Star Accu if you want Latinas for the standard. 4 hhr 1.2 FS. Faces are ugly, but T and A fine, and they take whatever you give. No rush, no complaining about too deep.

StubbornMule
03-19-21, 15:12
Have any of you tried any of the other massage spas at 440 Fair Dr aside from Aroma / Honey? Anything there worth checking out?

Adipca
03-19-21, 23:13
Have any of you tried any of the other massage spas at 440 Fair Dr aside from Aroma / Honey? Anything there worth checking out?Have tried them all. There are 7 shops / store fronts on just the first floor. Visit them and ask to see the line ups before you commit and go in; feels like a kid in a candy store. All decent.

Mr Houdini
03-19-21, 23:59
So the little head started begging for attention this afternoon, and I decided to make a short trek up the 605 to a new (I think) place in Downey, right off the 105 freeway. It's at Lakewood / Gardendale, very freeway close, tucked into a small strip mall next to a hold in the wall Mexican restaurant. I know it's not OC but it's only 15 minutes from the OC line in light traffic. Very little parking in the back, so if the restaurant is busy you may have to park on a residential street. No biggie. Entrance is in back. You go back there and ring the doorbell and wait. A young, super cute Chinese (I think. She wasn't Korean and her face was too round to be Viet) came to the door wearing a t-shirt and spandex pants. She led me to a room, collected the. 4 house fee, and told me to get comfortable. This place advertises in the Long Beach section of BP that you get to choose your girl. That wasn't the case here, but I wasn't surprised. I've never actually found an MP around here that gave a lineup, so it's expected. Anyway, after getting comfortable, the girl that let me in came into the room. She did about 5 minutes of the usual AMP lame back rub. Next thing I know I hear slurping sounds and she's kissing the back of my legs, butt cheeks, and up my spine. I felt her tits brushing across my butt and back as she was giving little slurpy kisses. She started to reach under so I got up on my knees. She played with junior and started licking, sucking, and nibbling on my sack and kissing the insides of my thighs. She did this for a good 5 minutes, which felt amazing. Then she had me turn over.

On the flip she still had her shirt pulled up so I could see a nice perky pair of C's. Without wasting any time she asked "how much are you going to tip?" I told her $ and she said ok. I didn't negotiate services. I just wanted to see what that would get me here. She proceeded with a wet, slurpy BBBJ+CIM, which included a lot of tongue action and started with her swirling her tongue around the head. It was one of the better BBBJs I've had in one of these places. After I finished in her mouth she spit it ut on my stomach and cleaned up with a hot towel. Finished up with a few minutes of massage, then helped me get dressed and I was out the door. Total time in the building, about 20 minutes.

I might repeat. The girl was cute, and I saw another girl on the way out who was also young and cute. The BBBJ was skillful. It was your typical quickie in and out place and I wasn't able to get her pants down (I tried but no go without being forceful, which I wasn't going to do today). I'm sure FS is on the menu if that's what you're after.Wish I got a name for the girl you saw, my experience wasn't similar at all. Come at night, only 2 girls working, and I end up pulling Ashley, and while she was young, as common with a ton of girls during the pandemic, once she pulls her mask down I don't find her as attractive. She was thin, but had a bit of tummy that was noticeable whenever she bent over. Gave me a lame massage and actually used up most of the time, but it was with absolutely no pressure so it was useless. I was annoyed at the fact that she kept talking too, usually I like talking with the masseuse during the massage if she's talkative and if I'm in the mood, but she kept oscillating between being bitchy and sweet. It was annoying, so by the time I flipped over I was pretty much ready to get out. Turns out only HJ for $40, BJ for $100 is offered here, and since I was sure by the flip to cut my losses and chalk this up to a bad experience I decided not to leave happy and told her no thanks for extras. Ended up giving her a 5 which I regret doing, she was nice enough to show me the other girl on my way out. Her name was Lisa, I didn't find her more attractive than Ashley, she was a shorter older Chinese chick with a tattoo below her left shoulder. So I sadly didn't get a young Chinese girl that gave out stellar service. For those of you willing to try this place out, I'd suggest calling since Ashley did tell me they were really busy that day, I was her 11th customer and Lisa had 14 before I stopped by. She also asked if I was the guy calling asking for, if I'm remembering correctly, Sophia, so if she's being requested she might be one to try out. And for Ashley, she told me she worked at a place in West Covina but didn't tell me where since she didn't want to be unfair for the owner here. Weird.

Personally I don't recommend this place, can't remember the last time I had a drive home that disappointed. But future visitors may have a different experience.

Rocco D
03-20-21, 10:26
I used to have a few good hair / nail salons that had back rooms and would provide massage. Unfortunately, most of my connections are gone now. Please PM Amy places that you might recommend. I recently tried OC Day Spa on Harbor but service really was poor, they do body scrub but it's terrible and I won't return. I am happy to trade info with anyone, I am very discreet so know how to handle a new slot without ruining it.

Grimmy23
03-20-21, 18:05
Wish I got a name for the girl you saw, my experience wasn't similar at all. Come at night, only 2 girls working, and I end up pulling Ashley, and while she was young, as common with a ton of girls during the pandemic, once she pulls her mask down I don't find her as attractive. She was thin, but had a bit of tummy that was noticeable whenever she bent over. Gave me a lame massage and actually used up most of the time, but it was with absolutely no pressure so it was useless. I was annoyed at the fact that she kept talking too, usually I like talking with the masseuse during the massage if she's talkative and if I'm in the mood, but she kept oscillating between being bitchy and sweet. It was annoying, so by the time I flipped over I was pretty much ready to get out. Turns out only HJ for $40, BJ for $100 is offered here, and since I was sure by the flip to cut my losses and chalk this up to a bad experience I decided not to leave happy and told her no thanks for extras. Ended up giving her a 5 which I regret doing, she was nice enough to show me the other girl on my way out. Her name was Lisa, I didn't find her more attractive than Ashley, she was a shorter older Chinese chick with a tattoo below her left shoulder. So I sadly didn't get a young Chinese girl that gave out stellar service. For those of you willing to try this place out, I'd suggest calling since Ashley did tell me they were really busy that day, I was her 11th customer and Lisa had 14 before I stopped by. She also asked if I was the guy calling asking for, if I'm remembering correctly, Sophia, so if she's being requested she might be one to try out. And for Ashley, she told me she worked at a place in West Covina but didn't tell me where since she didn't want to be unfair for the owner here. Weird.

Personally I don't recommend this place, can't remember the last time I had a drive home that disappointed. But future visitors may have a different experience.Aw man that sucks. I guess that just proves that this place is like most other AMPs. YMMV. I thought for a short while that maybe I found a diamond in the rough. This is exactly why I rarely visit AMPs anymore. I'd rather pay a little more for a place like Havana where I know exactly what I'm going to get.

AsianPussy
03-21-21, 02:44
Is she the same one from aroma / honey?Yes, she is, they rotate around every week.

IFunnyTaker
03-21-21, 03:13
Yeah I had a similar experience went in daytime two girls working one older she charged me the same I went through with it cause I was in the mood. She gave a really good message. Gave me BJ with cover and honestly pretty lame experience. I heard a younger girl in the next room which made me think man why did I have to get this older chick. This older chick wasent to bad she did talk a lot and kept calling me amazing and how impressive I was for last so long. Got really annoying. She left room spoke to younger girl I walked out to check her out. This younger chick ill say she was early 30 range not very attractive either. She smiles at me and slaps my ass as I walk by her tells me to come again. I don't think I'm ever going to return here ever again. Whats Havana though?


Aw man that sucks. I guess that just proves that this place is like most other AMPs. YMMV. I thought for a short while that maybe I found a diamond in the rough. This is exactly why I rarely visit AMPs anymore. I'd rather pay a little more for a place like Havana where I know exactly what I'm going to get.

Hornilius69
03-21-21, 05:49
Are you talking about a glory hole table? If that's what you're asking, I've never seen such a thing in this country. With glory hole tables, an AMP couldn't even pretend to be a legit establishment.I heard there is a place that offers a glory hole. It's not a Massage place but at some people house. You pay the entrance fee then stick your rod through some unknown hole.

MongerMan37
03-21-21, 11:12
Yeah I had a similar experience went in daytime two girls working one older she charged me the same I went through with it cause I was in the mood. She gave a really good message. Gave me BJ with cover and honestly pretty lame experience. I heard a younger girl in the next room which made me think man why did I have to get this older chick. This older chick wasent to bad she did talk a lot and kept calling me amazing and how impressive I was for last so long. Got really annoying. She left room spoke to younger girl I walked out to check her out. This younger chick ill say she was early 30 range not very attractive either. She smiles at me and slaps my ass as I walk by her tells me to come again. I don't think I'm ever going to return here ever again. Whats Havana though?A spa in Downey that's been referenced here a lot. Expect attractive girls doing nude massage with very little body to body for 1. 45.

Grimmy23
03-21-21, 12:10
Yeah I had a similar experience went in daytime two girls working one older she charged me the same I went through with it cause I was in the mood. She gave a really good message. Gave me BJ with cover and honestly pretty lame experience. I heard a younger girl in the next room which made me think man why did I have to get this older chick. This older chick wasent to bad she did talk a lot and kept calling me amazing and how impressive I was for last so long. Got really annoying. She left room spoke to younger girl I walked out to check her out. This younger chick ill say she was early 30 range not very attractive either. She smiles at me and slaps my ass as I walk by her tells me to come again. I don't think I'm ever going to return here ever again. Whats Havana though?There's a lot of posts on here about Havana if you search. Also in Downey but on the other end of town. Nuru place. All the girls are young and hot wih fun personalities. Various races, seem to be home grown since they all speak perfect English with no accent. My favorite there, Melanie, is a white / Filipina mix. Also never a rush job there. You get pretty much your full hour, and the girl is naked the entire time. The downside is it's HJ only and it's a bit pricey. House $. 65 and tip $1. 4, but it's always the same, no negotiating, and the service is always pretty much the same so you know exactly what you're going to pay and exactly what you're going to get going in. But you're paying for quality and reliability. You can text and ask whos working today and they will respond with pictures (fairly accurate ones) and you can pick and make an appointment.

Havana Pros:
- Hot girls
- multiple ethnicities available
- Not a rush job - you get the time you paid for
- Girl is completely naked
- Predictable service
- Fixed rates - no awkward negotiations
- Girls allow free roaming
- They send accurate pics for making appointments

Havana Cons:
- A bit pricey for a HJ
- Nothing other than HJ on the menu

AMP Pros:
- Cheaper
- Usually more on the menu up to and including FS and on rare occasion even exotic things like Greek
- Can almost always walk in without an appointment
- The “thrill of the chase” can be fun. Who will I get today? How far will I get with her? What exactly will happen when I put my hand up her skirt? Will she let me pull her panties down? etc etc...

AMP Cons
- Unless you’re a regular, you have little control over who you see
- Girls change locations frequently
- Not all girls are attractive. In fact most are just ok.
- Usually a rush job. Pay for 30 minutes and you’re usually in and out the door in 20
- Cleanliness is a question even if a place “looks” very clean. See my earlier post about sheets.
- Very inconsistent tipping and service. You don’t know what any given girl is gonna ask for and what she’s actually gonna deliver, or whether it will be worth it.
- High traffic. If you go late in a girl’s shift she’s probably serviced at least 10 guys before you that day.

ChThrowAway
03-21-21, 14:50
Hey guys, has anyone been able to reach out to Novia recently? Not sure if she's still on her break since December.

RogerOver
03-21-21, 19:57
I heard there is a place that offers a glory hole. It's not a Massage place but at some people house. You pay the entrance fee then stick your rod through some unknown hole.Even if that were true, why would you do it? I like to know and watch who's sucking my dick. At a gloryhole, for all you know it's a dude with a HSV-1 outbreak gobbling your cock.

RogerOver
03-21-21, 19:59
There's a lot of posts on here about Havana if you search. Also in Downey but on the other end of town. Nuru place. All the girls are young and hot wih fun personalities. Various races, seem to be home grown since they all speak perfect English with no accent. My favorite there, Melanie, is a white / Filipina mix. Also never a rush job there. You get pretty much your full hour, and the girl is naked the entire time. The downside is it's HJ only and it's a bit pricey. House $. 65 and tip $1. 4, but it's always the same, no negotiating, and the service is always pretty much the same so you know exactly what you're going to pay and exactly what you're going to get going in. But you're paying for quality and reliability. You can text and ask whos working today and they will respond with pictures (fairly accurate ones) and you can pick and make an appointment.

Havana Pros:
- Hot girls
- multiple ethnicities available
- Not a rush job - you get the time you paid for
- Girl is completely naked
- Predictable service
- Fixed rates - no awkward negotiations
- Girls allow free roaming
- They send accurate pics for making appointments

Havana Cons:
- A bit pricey for a HJ
- Nothing other than HJ on the menu

AMP Pros:
- Cheaper
- Usually more on the menu up to and including FS and on rare occasion even exotic things like Greek
- Can almost always walk in without an appointment
- The thrill of the chase can be fun. Who will I get today? How far will I get with her? What exactly will happen when I put my hand up her skirt? Will she let me pull her panties down? etc etc...

AMP Cons
- Unless youre a regular, you have little control over who you see
- Girls change locations frequently
- Not all girls are attractive. In fact most are just ok.
- Usually a rush job. Pay for 30 minutes and youre usually in and out the door in 20
- Cleanliness is a question even if a place looks very clean. See my earlier post about sheets.
- Very inconsistent tipping and service. You dont know what any given girl is gonna ask for and what shes actually gonna deliver, or whether it will be worth it.
- High traffic. If you go late in a girls shift shes probably serviced at least 10 guys before you that day.This took a few min to put together and it's very useful. Thanks!!

Seeking Sex
03-22-21, 00:04
First visit to Harbor Spa today. Entry fee 35 for 60 minutes (massage lasted 50 minutes). Pulled Nikki, the only girl available. Very standard Chinese provider, mid 30's, mid length hair, cute face but not a beauty, small build but fat around the middle. Massage a solid B, teasing on the backside maybe B minus. On the flip, played hard sell on her price, between 10 and 20 above average, even making me do the swinging boner dance over to get my wallet before starting. Negotiated as topless HJ but she refused to remove her top. Allowed me to reach under for some over the bra touching. HJ was a C minus, her heart just wasn't in it. The place itself was clean enough, room with a door but walls don't go all the way up. Can hear every sound in the next stall. Worst part was that the place reeked of cigarette smoke fron 168 next door. Had to leave my clothes in the garage when I got home. Conclusion: place was recommended to me by a fellow monger, but his girl was not available. So his experience was probably better than mine. Nonetheless I will not repeat. So many better options.I had posted a negative review of Harbor a week or so ago. It was my experience with Coco also. That was the third and last try on my part with that place.

LukeOC
03-22-21, 00:16
It was a bad experience. I drew Amy who is new and can't speak English. She stepped out to answer the door maybe 6 times during my cut-short one hour massage.

Due to the constant interruption, I just reached into her clothes and played with her b cups and let her handle jr. Damage was $0. 6 plus $0. 45 tips (because I actually liked the firmness of her boobs).

That said, I think she can actually massage if you care.

YellowFinTuna
03-22-21, 01:33
So my ATF was out and my backup location switched to Latinas (never had a good massage from a Latina though multiple nice endings) and I have limited mongering time so I TOFTT and went to Sakura over on Garden Grove Bl, in Garden Grove. Interesting Japanese named spa in OC Korea town. I was hoping for a Korean as I've always heard good things about them but I got a Chino named Amy. $40 for an hour and it initially looked like doors to the rooms but it was actually curtains on the opposite wall (bummer). No time for changes and I definitely needed a massage so WTF. Amy comes in and starts a meh dry massage for 5 minutes and I'm getting bummed as I'm thinking legit massage that sucks and not in a good way. And then she puts on the oil and starts a good massage. A really good massage and she eventually works her way down to the nether regions and does a great reach around for about 5 minutes.

She then cleans me off and I do the flip and she starts a great ending but a definite NO on the extras. Oh well, but after the ending she finishes with more great massage for another 10 minutes or so to complete the hour. $40 for the tip and she doesn't complain. I would give her a 7 on looks, 8 on the massage and a 9 on the ending so I'll repeat as soon as I've caught up with some other places on my list. It would sure be nice to get some extras like I used to get from Tina at Happy Happy but the old Tina left about a year ago and the new Tina is meh and gets pissed if I don't tip her $60 for $30 service so I had to write Happy Happy off the list.

Heartless Jay
03-22-21, 01:36
I heard there is a place that offers a glory hole. It's not a Massage place but at some people house. You pay the entrance fee then stick your rod through some unknown hole.The glory hole I'm talking about is a hole in the table. The setup with this is for 4 hands massage. One working your backside and one under the table working your front side. Mirrors set up so you can see the action going on under the table.

As I said, never seen this setup in this country. Won't go into details, as this forum is for OC and some discussions like this meet with disapproval.

I was just asking the original poster if this is what he was inquiring about, but he never responded. If you're going to post a question, at least check back to see if anyone's answered your query!

Heartless Jay
03-22-21, 01:44
I had posted a negative review of Harbor a week or so ago. It was my experience with Coco also. That was the third and last try on my part with that place.Damn, wish I'd have seen your post last week, would have given the place a pass. Funny, the monger who recommended the place to me actually raved about Coco. Guess it's really true, different strokes for different folks. It's one and done for me at Harbor. And to think I drove right past 888 on the way there too.

Santooki
03-22-21, 02:52
Hey guys, has anyone been able to reach out to Novia recently? Not sure if she's still on her break since December.Novia is going to be on a pretty long break from what I heard. Something about a cross country road trip.

BigJohn9
03-22-21, 10:50
The glory hole I'm talking about is a hole in the table. The setup with this is for 4 hands massage. One working your backside and one under the table working your front side. Mirrors set up so you can see the action going on under the table.

As I said, never seen this setup in this country. Won't go into details, as this forum is for OC and some discussions like this meet with disapproval.

I was just asking the original poster if this is what he was inquiring about, but he never responded. If you're going to post a question, at least check back to see if anyone's answered your query!I'm surprised some of you have never heard of a milking table. A glory hole is in a wall, it's supposed to be anonymous. A milking table is not anonymous.

Grimmy23
03-22-21, 12:57
I'm surprised some of you have never heard of a milking table. A glory hole is in a wall, it's supposed to be anonymous. A milking table is not anonymous.I have never seen this available anywhere in the US, other than a few independents who charge exorbitant rates (as in $1000+/ hr). Where I've seen it, there were often (but not always) 2 girls, one working above the table and one working below. I've never experienced it myself, but seems to me if someone set this service up around here it would be a booming success (but probably very expensive). I can only imagine being at Havana and having Melanie sliding on me on top of the table and Daisy working under the table. Now THAT would be an experience worth paying prime dollar for.

Meshugga
03-22-21, 18:48
I have never seen this available anywhere in the US, other than a few independents who charge exorbitant rates (as in $1000+/ hr). Where I've seen it, there were often (but not always) 2 girls, one working above the table and one working below...Coincidently I ran across this ad recently. https://orangecounty.rubratings.com/171289. I have not seen her, and some things in her ad seem a bit sketch (the price, the ask for upfront deposit etc.). What caught my attention is that she is advertising a milking table. Also has other ads with a 4-hand milking table massage.

Hwof322
03-23-21, 00:44
Has anyone recently seen VipNuruGoddess? What ethnicity is she? Worth it?She is hot but doesn't provide FS only HJ and I believe she is part Nicaraguan and another European country I forgot.

MyFinalHeav3
03-23-21, 13:25
She is hot but doesn't provide FS only HJ and I believe she is part Nicaraguan and another European country I forgot.She is part Croatian.

Nervous Noob
03-23-21, 13:49
On El Toro road there is two places in the familiar building, 109, and 112, both advertise on bedpage. I tried 109 this time (first door on the left). 45 for 30 minutes. I drew Jazzy a beautiful 20 something tanned white girl with a perfect body, she has really wide cheekbones that give her an exotic look. Amazing skin and easy going I was smiling and giggling the whole time. She finished me while sitting on my lap with two hands on my dick and rubbing the tip on her small perky breasts while I had one hand on her ass and one fondling her boob. I had not cum in a week so there was a big cleanup. No tip was mentioned I gave 120 or 140 I forgot, totally worth it to me, I only get to do this less than once a year, to feel her body was an experience I will treasure for the rest of my life!

Thanks for sharing all the intel over all the years friends, and thanks to the admin for keeping this site going.

Maybee1632
03-23-21, 17:25
Working in CM today, stopped in to Classy. 30's Viet, decent english; . 6 for happy, $ naked. Passed. Tipped for a good leg and shoulder massage.

OCRanger
03-23-21, 20:01
Working in CM today, stopped in to Classy. 30's Viet, decent english; . 6 for happy, $ naked. Passed. Tipped for a good leg and shoulder massage.I haven't been there in long time. Used to be my fav spot when Nikki used work there. Anyone know where Nikki is? (Tatted Asian).

July1714
03-23-21, 20:20
Maybe because I'm a young dude and not sex deprived, but Harbor spa gives a good massage and great HE. I go here for the quality of massage and the provider seems to be attracted to me. Some of these women need to feel that attraction to give extras. You can get FS with any provider with time and trust.

Grimmy23
03-23-21, 22:39
Maybe because I'm a young dude and not sex deprived, but Harbor spa gives a good massage and great HE. I go here for the quality of massage and the provider seems to be attracted to me. Some of these women need to feel that attraction to give extras. You can get FS with any provider with time and trust.I'm an old dude and not sex deprived, but I go to an MP for either a) because I want to remember what it's like being with a 20-something year old naked hottie, b) I want something that the wife won't do, c) I found a provider who can give me a really intense orgasm, or d) some combination of the above. If I can find a plus one of the others it's a home run. I don't go looking for FS. A HJ or BJ is just fine.

HeadorTail
03-24-21, 11:52
I'm an old dude and not sex deprived, but I go to an MP for either a) because I want to remember what it's like being with a 20-something year old naked hottie, b) I want something that the wife won't do, c) I found a provider who can give me a really intense orgasm, or d) some combination of the above. If I can find a plus one of the others it's a home run. I don't go looking for FS. A HJ or BJ is just fine.I'm a really old guy and I'm sex depraved. A subtle difference but an important one. I go to AMPs to get young Asian women to take their clothes off for me and make them cum. After my wife died I needed to find something to distract me. I'm a shitty golfer so I went with plan B. FS shops bore me but turning a HJ girl to the dark side? Priceless! Well no, not really. Usually 100 to 140 depending on her negotiating skills and how tight that pussy is.

Pasquelo
03-24-21, 13:48
I'm an old dude and not sex deprived, but I go to an MP for either a) because I want to remember what it's like being with a 20-something year old naked hottie, b) I want something that the wife won't do, c) I found a provider who can give me a really intense orgasm, or d) some combination of the above. If I can find a plus one of the others it's a home run. I don't go looking for FS. A HJ or BJ is just fine.Amen Brother!! Very well said.

Peter321
03-24-21, 15:34
Just saw Krystal recently, and I have to say that everything that everyone said was true. She gives an awesome massage with a great tease and a nice finish. She's naked the whole time and is able to have a great conversation. Definitely worth it.

ThatNuruDude
03-24-21, 17:05
What day is melanie there?? Been trying for her but no luck instead went with honey and really enjoyed my time but still itching for melanie.

[QUOTE=Grimmy23;5266221]There's a lot of posts on here about Havana if you search. Also in Downey but on the other end of town. Nuru place. All the girls are young and hot wih fun personalities. Various races, seem to be home grown since they all speak perfect English with no accent. My favorite there, Melanie, is a white / Filipina mix. Also never a rush job there. You get pretty much your full hour, and the girl is naked the entire time. The downside is it's HJ only and it's a bit pricey. House $. 65 and tip $1. 4, but it's always the same, no negotiating, and the service is always pretty much the same so you know exactly what you're going to pay and exactly what you're going to get going in. But you're paying for quality and reliability. You can text and ask whos working today and they will respond with pictures (fairly accurate ones) and you can pick and make an appointment./QUOTE]

Ass Coach
03-24-21, 17:53
I agree.

Where is she working out of now? The place on Katella next to donut shop is closed.


Just saw Krystal recently, and I have to say that everything that everyone said was true. She gives an awesome massage with a great tease and a nice finish. She's naked the whole time and is able to have a great conversation. Definitely worth it.

Ass Coach
03-24-21, 17:54
You just described this married 52 year old to a T.


Amen Brother!! Very well said.

Grimmy23
03-24-21, 19:55
What day is melanie there?? Been trying for her but no luck instead went with honey and really enjoyed my time but still itching for melanie.

I usually see her on Friday afternoons.

Grimmy23
03-24-21, 20:02
You just described this married 52 year old to a T.I should also add that I have 6 smoking hot college girls all in the age range of 19-23 working my front desk. I'm the boss and I value my business, and I respect them because they're all really sweet girls snd good hard workers, so I'd never cross the line with any of them. I'm more "dad" to them than anything. But holy shit, just the mere fantasy of ripping their clothes off makes me need an extra cold shower sometimes. Plus I look on their instagrams and every single one of them has bikini pics posted and that doesn't help. A little fun at Havana once in a while sure helps release some of that pent up tension.

MongerMan37
03-24-21, 22:13
What day is melanie there?? Been trying for her but no luck instead went with honey and really enjoyed my time but still itching for melanie.Just text the spa. I was considering seeing her this week and they told me she'd be there Saturday. Her days vary. The receptionist is usually helpful and will answer a question like that.

Xnintoolx
03-24-21, 22:28
Here is a curveball, have you tried texting the spot and asking when XYZ would be working?

Maybe just maybe they'll let you know and you can pre-book!

Gasp!


What day is melanie there?? Been trying for her but no luck instead went with honey and really enjoyed my time but still itching for melanie.

MongerMan37
03-24-21, 23:06
I should also add that I have 6 smoking hot college girls all in the age range of 19-23 working my front desk. I'm the boss and I value my business, and I respect them because they're all really sweet girls snd good hard workers, so I'd never cross the line with any of them. I'm more "dad" to them than anything. But holy shit, just the mere fantasy of ripping their clothes off makes me need an extra cold shower sometimes. Plus I look on their instagrams and every single one of them has bikini pics posted and that doesn't help. A little fun at Havana once in a while sure helps release some of that pent up tension.Sounds like a great work environment! Are you hiring? LOL jk.

SneakyPete7
03-25-21, 00:07
She is hot but doesn't provide FS only HJ and I believe she is part Nicaraguan and another European country I forgot.Croatia. But she is smoking! If you want an amazing sensual B2 B she is one of the best. Has a nuru mattress cover so there's lots of sliding with all the oil. Treat her right. She's worth it. If you was extras go elsewhere.

SCJohn
03-25-21, 01:02
I should also add that I have 6 smoking hot college girls all in the age range of 19-23 working my front desk. I'm the boss and I value my business, and I respect them because they're all really sweet girls snd good hard workers, so I'd never cross the line with any of them. I'm more "dad" to them than anything. But holy shit, just the mere fantasy of ripping their clothes off makes me need an extra cold shower sometimes. Plus I look on their instagrams and every single one of them has bikini pics posted and that doesn't help. A little fun at Havana once in a while sure helps release some of that pent up tension.That's why this hobby should be legal. Good to have an outlet to spend excess energy. Been in the same boat with a young VGirl that worked for me. She was so cute and personable I could respect her and leave to office and get a good massage and release.

Grimmy23
03-25-21, 12:55
That's why this hobby should be legal. Good to have an outlet to spend excess energy. Been in the same boat with a young VGirl that worked for me. She was so cute and personable I could respect her and leave to office and get a good massage and release.Canada has it right. In Toronto they have legalized body rub parlors. You go in and get a lineup of 2-3 girls, pick the one you want, go back to the room with her and immediately strip and take a shower together, then for the rest of the time you take turns rubbing each other and she finishes you with a HJ. Quick jump back in the shower together to rinse off and you're all done. Nothing more available than HJ, but there's a ton of them around, they're 100% legal, and you don't feel like a sleeze after visiting one. No inserting anything into anywhere. No awkward tip negotiation. Just a solid hour with a young naked hottie and a nice HJ. The ones I visited all had young, hot girls. That's what should be legal here IMO. Separate it from the legit spas so there's no confusion what you're going in for, and regulate it to assure the places stay clean and can actually pass a health inspection (see my earlier post re: sheets at MPs).

Personally, I believe HJs are therapeutic and healthy. They relieve stress, contribute to better sleep, arguably reduce the chances of heart disease, and there's even recently proven medical studies suggesting that frequent ejaculation reduces the risk of prostate cancer. It probably saves quite a few marriages too because it gives sexually deprived married men another outlet. But for legit spas it's a huge slippery slope that becomes problematic for business. For example, I have to hire therapists based solely on their massage skills. If I hired good looking girls who gave crappy to mediocre massage I wouldn't stay in business very long. If you're getting a HF that's fine, but the next thing is you want a hot girl, then you want to touch, then you want her clothes to come off, and the lines just get far too blurred. I don't have a single provider on my staff that anyone here would want to see naked or get a HJ from, but they all have amazing massage skills.

Granted, there are providers out there who give "legit" massage with HJ, but they're a rarity. I used to see one in NoHo years ago. I haven't seen Krystal or Trish yet, but from what I'm reading they're probably somewhere close to that. I'll have to see them myself before I can pass judgment.

The trouble of course is just imagine the first elected official to introduce legislation for legalized handjob parlors. Unfortunately it will never happen.

Btjiii
03-25-21, 14:29
Anyone have any info on Haley or Zuri at Havana. Had a session with Melanie she is as others have described here. Probably the best there IMHO.

Bla Bla
03-25-21, 15:56
Looks like bedpage got rid of the body rubs ads. Massage ads are still there.

Meshugga
03-25-21, 17:14
Coincidently I ran across this ad recently. https://orangecounty.rubratings.com/171289. I have not seen her, and some things in her ad seem a bit sketch (the price, the ask for upfront deposit etc.). What caught my attention is that she is advertising a milking table. Also has other ads with a 4-hand milking table massage.Sorry, link was broken.

https://orangecounty.rubratings.com/171289

Blrtum223
03-25-21, 18:13
Jenny told me she works at a place in LF as well but wouldn't tell me where out of respect for Havana. Has anyone seen her outside of Havana? Kind of hate driving to Downey sometimes and LF is closer to me.

Fe Maiden
03-25-21, 18:24
Anybody have any info on this place in LH?

SlickJJ
03-25-21, 19:49
What day is Melanie there?? Been trying for her but no luck instead went with honey and really enjoyed my time but still.

She works Sat, Mon, Tues.

MongerMan37
03-25-21, 19:52
Jenny told me she works at a place in LF as well but wouldn't tell me where out of respect for Havana. Has anyone seen her outside of Havana? Kind of hate driving to Downey sometimes and LF is closer to me.I have not. Melanie had mentioned the same thing to me though. For all we know a lot of those Havana girls are probably working together a couple days at the same LF spa though. It makes perfect sense and allows them to expand their client base.

NineInches
03-25-21, 20:35
Sorry, link was broken.

https://orangecounty.rubratings.com/171289I wouldn't do it because asking for deposit. I'll deposit later. LOL I was looking into milking tables on Amazon and it was for sale https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T86F9ZR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_QPBS918M9777806NJE7E.

Connaisseur
03-25-21, 22:59
Dear Fellow Mongers.

Here's a couple of recent reports from my discoveries around home turf.

1. A-Plus Body Care LH.

Took a chance and walked in on a weekday afternoon; despite the "by appointment only" signs, I was welcomed and led into a dim-lit, but clean room with. Taaa, taaah! - a heated massage table! This was a welcome change on that cold day for sure. My technician turned out to be "Sherry" or "Cheri", a 40-some Chinese MILF. I went for the HHR, and my therapist did a decent job on a soft-touch massage with plenty of teasing. She made sure to get me worked up enough by scratching and fingering my balls (I love it when they do that) from behind, then on the flip she lifted her shirt to reveal her natural cee-cups. Pleasant finish, but nothing that makes me want to go out of my way to go back. Decent enough for the occasional distraction, though. Damage: . 4 for the house, . 4 donation.

2. #109, LF.

I had initially set up an appointment with a different place, but apparently they moved and I was unable to get their address in time. Had been to #109 before, and as they were open I thought I'd take a chance. Sometimes the moon and stars line up, and I was matched with Camilla, their resident Latina (although she could pass for Middle Eastern as well); mid-20's, fun-size in height and a body to die for. Round and shapely in the right places, soft skin, muscular legs, and bee-plus naturals with killer nips. Just what the doctor ordered! Sure, the house fee was. 55 for 45 min, and my new friend wanted to see her tip upfront. She first suggested Nuru, but I opted for and negotiated full nude soft touch, at 1. 2. A bit steep, yes, but you get what you pay for and my three-quarters of an hour with Camilla will go into my Book of Favorite All-Time MP Experiences (and that is with more than 20 years of hobbying under my belt).

My little firecracker disrobed, and proceeded with an amazing procedure, all the while allowing (and enjoying) soft touches on my part as well. Camilla is chatty, fun, and possesses an ass worth the detour. She talked her way through getting me excited, almost as if she wanted to explain what she was doing, and why (that was a first for me! And evidently took pleasure in what she was doing herself. She pushed her shaved snapper into my face and hand with no regrets, and delivered an almost better-than-GFE (we even joked what it would be like if we were dating, and sharing a place). Then the flip, and some oil. And in no time she had me blow my load all over. What I admire most, though, is that she really took her time and wasn't trying to cut our time short. Oh, and did I mention her physique? Camilla is in attendance Thursdays and Sundays, and I will save my cash and return for sure.

That's it for today, be safe out there and don't forget to enjoy and report your findings, everyone!

Conn.

Connaisseur
03-25-21, 23:03
Canada has it right. In Toronto they have legalized body rub parlors. You go in and get a lineup of 2-3 girls, pick the one you want, go back to the room with her and immediately strip and take a shower together, then for the rest of the time you take turns rubbing each other and she finishes you with a HJ. Quick jump back in the shower together to rinse off and you're all done. Nothing more available than HJ, but there's a ton of them around, they're 100% legal, and you don't feel like a sleeze after visiting one. No inserting anything into anywhere. No awkward tip negotiation. Just a solid hour with a young naked hottie and a nice HJ. The ones I visited all had young, hot girls. That's what should be legal here IMO. Separate it from the legit spas so there's no confusion what you're going in for, and regulate it to assure the places stay clean and can actually pass a health inspection (see my earlier post re: sheets at MPs).

Personally, I believe HJs are therapeutic and healthy. They relieve stress, contribute to better sleep, arguably reduce the chances of heart disease, and there's even recently proven medical studies suggesting that frequent ejaculation reduces the risk of prostate cancer. It probably saves quite a few marriages too because it gives sexually deprived married men another outlet. But for legit spas it's a huge slippery slope that becomes problematic for business. For example, I have to hire therapists based solely on their massage skills. If I hired good looking girls who gave crappy to mediocre massage I wouldn't stay in business very long. If you're getting a HF that's fine, but the next thing is you want a hot girl, then you want to touch, then you want her clothes to come off, and the lines just get far too blurred. I don't have a single provider on my staff that anyone here would want to see naked or get a HJ from, but they all have amazing massage skills.

Granted, there are providers out there who give "legit" massage with HJ, but they're a rarity. I used to see one in NoHo years ago. I haven't seen Krystal or Trish yet, but from what I'm reading they're probably somewhere close to that. I'll have to see them myself before I can pass judgment.

The trouble of course is just imagine the first elected official to introduce legislation for legalized hand job parlors. Unfortunately it will never happen.I couldn't agree more. Outside of Toronto, try Germany sometime. In addition to all-legal HJ salons (with online menus, and prices for all different, and well-defined variations of services such as Tantra release, prostate, foot job), you get to whet your whistle at world-class FKKs (Google that)!

Conn.

Ball Is Life
03-26-21, 01:34
I've recently visited this place near my office in Brea. It's a small place next to Shakey's in a plaza. When I walked in, an Asian who looks to be in her 30's came out to greet me in a form fitting one piece. She said. 4 for hhr and. 6 for an hr. Took the hhr and she led me past the door that leads to the back. First off, they have actual rooms with doors so you get some sense of privacy. I walk in to a room and get ready for the massage. She walks into the room and I exchange pleasantries. She then asks if I want her to walk on my back. That's something I haven't really gotten in many other places. So I say yeah and she gets up on the table. The rooms have metal bars on the ceiling so the girls can adjust their strength when they walk on your back. She even cracked my back with her feet at one point, which is pretty nice. The walk was okay, but when she got ready for the hands massage, she really tried to work my shoulder out. I'm not one of those who likes massage really hard, so I can't say for certain that the massage is great to those who like it intense, but for me, it was pretty good. I'm sure if you ask her to do it harder, she'll do it for you. Anyways, she finishes the massage and she moves down to the boys. At first she teased the taint, and the slowly reaches for the balls. At one point, she cupped them, and it was pretty amazing. She then tells me to flip, so I comply. She asks me if I want the HJ and says it's. 6 for it. I pay her then she lowers her shoulder straps and exposes her tits. After that, she gets the oil and starts working on the Jr. She tried to talk dirty, but it got repetitive after a while since she says like 3 phrases. I got to roam on the top but she denied the lower region, so I may have to try again next time. Anyways, I got the release and she asks if I want a table shower. I said yes since I was kind of covered in oil and she led me to a room further back. She cleaned me up and I got dressed and went on my way. Overall, not a bad experience. Definitely better than most of the massages I've gotten from other places. I'll try it again just to see if I can access the kitty but she definitely was against FS. Hhr total dmg was $ including the tip.

Sullivan1188
03-26-21, 14:56
Hi guys,

Please help newbie!

Sullivan1188
03-26-21, 15:00
Hi guys, I am from San Diego, will be coming to OC this weekend, can you please verify if Havana day spa is the one on Firestone blvd, Downey? I am confused with all new names of spas. Also, is Honey spa on Fair Dr still operating? If so which one do you prefer, in service and girls working there? Thanks a lot.

BenderOver
03-27-21, 02:45
Anyone have any info on Haley or Zuri at Havana. Had a session with Melanie she is as others have described here. Probably the best there IMHO.With all the talk about Havana on Firestone in Downey, I had to give this place a try. Melanie was busy, so with that I hate being Captain TOFTT but did anyways. Ended up with Gabby and probably won't repeat because for what I got, the price was not justified. May repeat Havana by trying for Melanie if I ever get a chance, but I'd have to be pretty hard up.

Gabby.

L 7. 5 compared to the 9 face photo. Body is very very curvy. Skin is a bit rough and she doesn't shave her legs, so body is a 6.

A 5 She tried to be nice, but we didn't sync. Chit chat just didn't exist so much. Everything was business with more no's than I'd like.

S HJ with FOV FOA. No LFK, DFK, DATY, BJ, FS. No nursing on her titties, no nothing. It really is just a hand job with you stroking the outside of her VJ and massaging her titties and asscheeks.

E 65 hr, 160 for nuru with touch. This must have been a new charge because the price just keeps going up and up and up! The forum started at 120, then went to 140, and when I went it was at 160. This was for the 1 hr tip for nuru with touch. I don't recommend this at all! The nuru is with hand lotion (not gel) and all the body rub consists of is her rubbing her titties on your back for 10 seconds 4 times. Yes, this selection included the HJ which was pretty good. But when I mean pretty good, it means I'd tip at most 80 for it and that's pretty generous.

Repeat or Recommend? Maybe Havana for Melanie. No if you told me I was getting a repeat of this last visit. Don't recommend the nuru upcharge. I think you guys were getting the regular nude HJ with touch for 140.

Learning lessons:

1) They are "closed" but you can call for an immediate appointment.

2) I don't recommend calling for an immediate appointment because Melanie will most likely either be off or busy.

3) Don't let your little head do the thinking for you and pick someone else in the line up. The photos will look good, but you'll end up feeling like you overspent and wonder what everyone's talking about regarding Melanie.

4) Book ahead of time and stick to your guns regarding the girls that have been mentioned on this forum and are known to be popular.

RGarcia123
03-27-21, 06:16
My all time Fav from Havana is Chanel, close seconds are either Elle or Melanie.


Hi guys, I am from San Diego, will be coming to OC this weekend, can you please verify if Havana day spa is the one on Firestone blvd, Downey? I am confused with all new names of spas. Also, is Honey spa on Fair Dr still operating? If so which one do you prefer, in service and girls working there? Thanks a lot.

MongerMan37
03-27-21, 10:23
With all the talk about Havana on Firestone in Downey, I had to give this place a try. Melanie was busy, so with that I hate being Captain TOFTT but did anyways. Ended up with Gabby and probably won't repeat because for what I got, the price was not justified. May repeat Havana by trying for Melanie if I ever get a chance, but I'd have to be pretty hard up.

Gabby.

L 7. 5 compared to the 9 face photo. Body is very very curvy. Skin is a bit rough and she doesn't shave her legs, so body is a 6.

A 5 She tried to be nice, but we didn't sync. Chit chat just didn't exist so much. Everything was business with more no's than I'd like.

S HJ with FOV FOA. No LFK, DFK, DATY, BJ, FS. No nursing on her titties, no nothing. It really is just a hand job with you stroking the outside of her VJ and massaging her titties and asscheeks.

E 65 hr, 160 for nuru with touch. This must have been a new charge because the price just keeps going up and up and up! The forum started at 120, then went to 140, and when I went it was at 160. This was for the 1 hr tip for nuru with touch. I don't recommend this at all! The nuru is with hand lotion (not gel) and all the body rub consists of is her rubbing her titties on your back for 10 seconds 4 times. Yes, this selection included the HJ which was pretty good. But when I mean pretty good, it means I'd tip at most 80 for it and that's pretty generous.

Repeat or Recommend? Maybe Havana for Melanie. No if you told me I was getting a repeat of this last visit. Don't recommend the nuru upcharge. I think you guys were getting the regular nude HJ with touch for 140.

Learning lessons:

1) They are "closed" but you can call for an immediate appointment.

2) I don't recommend calling for an immediate appointment because Melanie will most likely either be off or busy.

3) Don't let your little head do the thinking for you and pick someone else in the line up. The photos will look good, but you'll end up feeling like you overspent and wonder what everyone's talking about regarding Melanie.

4) Book ahead of time and stick to your guns regarding the girls that have been mentioned on this forum and are known to be popular.Thanks for the review on Gabby. In my opinion you'll probably have a similar experience with Melanie. I like Melanie just as much as a lot of other people on these boards, but you are basically getting a nude HJ that's worth 60-80, except we are all paying 100 for a half hour. Melanie does resemble the photo quite a bit which is a plus. I've seen 4 girls total from Havana. Two of them still work there. The other 2 don't. It's all the same rubbing their tits across your chest and back for no more then a minute then just a regular light massage with HJ. If anyone is going to Havana for a true nuru massage I'd save your money. I've only ever gotten what I'd consider a true nuru massage from independent girls.

Grimmy23
03-27-21, 11:01
With all the talk about Havana on Firestone in Downey, I had to give this place a try. Melanie was busy, so with that I hate being Captain TOFTT but did anyways. Ended up with Gabby and probably won't repeat because for what I got, the price was not justified. May repeat Havana by trying for Melanie if I ever get a chance, but I'd have to be pretty hard up.

Gabby.

L 7. 5 compared to the 9 face photo. Body is very very curvy. Skin is a bit rough and she doesn't shave her legs, so body is a 6.

A 5 She tried to be nice, but we didn't sync. Chit chat just didn't exist so much. Everything was business with more no's than I'd like.

S HJ with FOV FOA. No LFK, DFK, DATY, BJ, FS. No nursing on her titties, no nothing. It really is just a hand job with you stroking the outside of her VJ and massaging her titties and asscheeks.

E 65 hr, 160 for nuru with touch. This must have been a new charge because the price just keeps going up and up and up! The forum started at 120, then went to 140, and when I went it was at 160. This was for the 1 hr tip for nuru with touch. I don't recommend this at all! The nuru is with hand lotion (not gel) and all the body rub consists of is her rubbing her titties on your back for 10 seconds 4 times. Yes, this selection included the HJ which was pretty good. But when I mean pretty good, it means I'd tip at most 80 for it and that's pretty generous.

Repeat or Recommend? Maybe Havana for Melanie. No if you told me I was getting a repeat of this last visit. Don't recommend the nuru upcharge. I think you guys were getting the regular nude HJ with touch for 140.

Learning lessons:

1) They are "closed" but you can call for an immediate appointment.

2) I don't recommend calling for an immediate appointment because Melanie will most likely either be off or busy.

3) Don't let your little head do the thinking for you and pick someone else in the line up. The photos will look good, but you'll end up feeling like you overspent and wonder what everyone's talking about regarding Melanie.

4) Book ahead of time and stick to your guns regarding the girls that have been mentioned on this forum and are known to be popular.Yeah, Gabby isn't one I'd recommend there. I've had her before and her service is as you described. Stick with Melanie or Chanel. I've seen Daisy and Selena in the hallway and they both look hot and I plan in trying both of them. I didn't realize the price went up. If that's the case then yeah it's getting a little too pricey even for Melanie.

I've booked Melanie on less than an hour's notice plenty of times. I usually go up around 3 on a Friday and I'll book her around 2.

Santooki
03-27-21, 13:28
Thanks for the review on Gabby. In my opinion you'll probably have a similar experience with Melanie. I like Melanie just as much as a lot of other people on these boards, but you are basically getting a nude HJ that's worth 60-80, except we are all paying 100 for a half hour. Melanie does resemble the photo quite a bit which is a plus. I've seen 4 girls total from Havana. Two of them still work there. The other 2 don't. It's all the same rubbing their tits across your chest and back for no more then a minute then just a regular light massage with HJ. If anyone is going to Havana for a true nuru massage I'd save your money. I've only ever gotten what I'd consider a true nuru massage from independent girls.Recommendations for independents offering true Nuru?

Santooki
03-27-21, 13:32
I def recommend checking their IG and seeing who may be working that day. They're pretty good about updating it if not early in the morning, the night before. They're pretty on top of their texts during biz hours so you can def make an appointment ahead of time.

Physically they have some of the hottest providers but they're also pretty strict about no extras beyond outer touching. Lots of former honey girls there too like Chanel and Elle. Honey is a new girl there that is real pics as well. Like others have said, Melanie is import car model hot.


With all the talk about Havana on Firestone in Downey, I had to give this place a try. Melanie was busy, so with that I hate being Captain TOFTT but did anyways. Ended up with Gabby and probably won't repeat because for what I got, the price was not justified. May repeat Havana by trying for Melanie if I ever get a chance, but I'd have to be pretty hard up.

Gabby.

L 7. 5 compared to the 9 face photo. Body is very very curvy. Skin is a bit rough and she doesn't shave her legs, so body is a 6.

A 5 She tried to be nice, but we didn't sync. Chit chat just didn't exist so much. Everything was business with more no's than I'd like.

S HJ with FOV FOA. No LFK, DFK, DATY, BJ, FS. No nursing on her titties, no nothing. It really is just a hand job with you stroking the outside of her VJ and massaging her titties and asscheeks.

E 65 hr, 160 for nuru with touch. This must have been a new charge because the price just keeps going up and up and up! The forum started at 120, then went to 140, and when I went it was at 160. This was for the 1 hr tip for nuru with touch. I don't recommend this at all! The nuru is with hand lotion (not gel) and all the body rub consists of is her rubbing her titties on your back for 10 seconds 4 times. Yes, this selection included the HJ which was pretty good. But when I mean pretty good, it means I'd tip at most 80 for it and that's pretty generous.

Repeat or Recommend? Maybe Havana for Melanie. No if you told me I was getting a repeat of this last visit. Don't recommend the nuru upcharge. I think you guys were getting the regular nude HJ with touch for 140.

Learning lessons:

1) They are "closed" but you can call for an immediate appointment.

2) I don't recommend calling for an immediate appointment because Melanie will most likely either be off or busy.

3) Don't let your little head do the thinking for you and pick someone else in the line up. The photos will look good, but you'll end up feeling like you overspent and wonder what everyone's talking about regarding Melanie.

4) Book ahead of time and stick to your guns regarding the girls that have been mentioned on this forum and are known to be popular.

Santooki
03-27-21, 13:33
Hi guys,

Please help newbie!Check their ig, I don't have the handle off the top of my head but it'll be in the search for this thread.

MongerMan37
03-27-21, 14:21
Recommendations for independents offering true Nuru?One recommendation would be nurugoddesslana. She takes sessions in OC and sometimes in LA. Latina. Nice body. Older than her post says as she's probably in her low 40's, but she's aged extremely well. She truly has a nice body. Some of those pics are real. She uses her entire body during the massage and is very sensual.

https://privatedelights.ch/USA/California/Costa-Mesa/nurugoddesslana

TheHuntsman
03-27-21, 16:27
There's a nice little place near orangethorpe and valley view. The best girl works there Thursday-Saturday. Her name starts a K. You can get a good massage plus a great happy ending.

ThatNuruDude
03-27-21, 21:16
I have not. Melanie had mentioned the same thing to me though. For all we know a lot of those Havana girls are probably working together a couple days at the same LF spa though. It makes perfect sense and allows them to expand their client base.Had my luck today with melanie sent a txt early morning and went down to Downey at noon for an hr session. The hr is 65 plus *40 as always so whoever is paying more is not accurate or just being very generous so when you're generous it confuses the mongers as to how much to take. Either or I had a great time. The best massage I've had their was from Luna when they first opened, she actually gets all your knots but the couple times I've seen her upfront I keep trying for her but she says she can't she only works the front now. I've also had Gaby before with DATY & BBBJ so in my opinion if your a nice dude, clean and a regular you can definitely get more at Havana just from experience. Melanie is more of a soft sensual type of touch, a lot of tease. Banging body! Model type for sure but no DATY nor BBBJ I will try again and see where it takes me. From my understanding they aren't allowed to work elsewhere but a lot of them do come from LF and Honey spas.

Santooki
03-28-21, 01:19
One recommendation would be nurugoddesslana. She takes sessions in OC and sometimes in LA. Latina. Nice body. Older than her post says as she's probably in her low 40's, but she's aged extremely well. She truly has a nice body. Some of those pics are real. She uses her entire body during the massage and is very sensual.

https://privatedelights.ch/USA/California/Costa-Mesa/nurugoddesslanaAny extras beyond the HJ finish?

BenderOver
03-28-21, 01:26
Had my luck today with melanie sent a txt early morning and went down to Downey at noon for an hr session. The hr is 65 plus *40 as always so whoever is paying more is not accurate or just being very generous so when you're generous it confuses the mongers as to how much to take. Either or I had a great time. The best massage I've had their was from Luna when they first opened, she actually gets all your knots but the couple times I've seen her upfront I keep trying for her but she says she can't she only works the front now. I've also had Gaby before with DATY & BBBJ so in my opinion if your a nice dude, clean and a regular you can definitely get more at Havana just from experience. Melanie is more of a soft sensual type of touch, a lot of tease. Banging body! Model type for sure but no DATY nor BBBJ I will try again and see where it takes me. From my understanding they aren't allowed to work elsewhere but a lot of them do come from LF and Honey spas.Not accurate or being too generous OR got up charged on the nuru package which afterwards recommended not getting. Let's not be inaccurate here.

WoodYee
03-28-21, 02:07
I've recently visited this place near my office in Brea. It's a small place next to Shakey's in a plaza. When I walked in, an Asian who looks to be in her 30's came out to greet me in a form fitting one piece. She said. 4 for hhr and. 6 for an hr. Took the hhr and she led me past the door that leads to the back. First off, they have actual rooms with doors so you get some sense of privacy. I walk in to a room and get ready for the massage. She walks into the room and I exchange pleasantries. She then asks if I want her to walk on my back. That's something I haven't really gotten in many other places. So I say yeah and she gets up on the table. The rooms have metal bars on the ceiling so the girls can adjust their strength when they walk on your back. She even cracked my back with her feet at one point, which is pretty nice. The walk was okay, but when she got ready for the hands massage, she really tried to work my shoulder out. I'm not one of those who likes massage really hard, so I can't say for certain that the massage is great to those who like it intense, but for me, it was pretty good. I'm sure if you ask her to do it harder, she'll do it for you. Anyways, she finishes the massage and she moves down to the boys. At first she teased the taint, and the slowly reaches for the balls. At one point, she cupped them, and it was pretty amazing. She then tells me to flip, so I comply. She asks me if I want the HJ and says it's. 6 for it. I pay her then she lowers her shoulder straps and exposes her tits. After that, she gets the oil and starts working on the Jr. She tried to talk dirty, but it got repetitive after a while since she says like 3 phrases. I got to roam on the top but she denied the lower region, so I may have to try again next time. Anyways, I got the release and she asks if I want a table shower. I said yes since I was kind of covered in oil and she led me to a room further back. She cleaned me up and I got dressed and went on my way. Overall, not a bad experience. Definitely better than most of the massages I've gotten from other places. I'll try it again just to see if I can access the kitty but she definitely was against FS. Hhr total dmg was $ including the tip.Based on this recommendation I checked the place out. Got a maybe early 40's gal named Julie. She was Vietnamese. Looks were alright nothing to write home about but ok for me. Paid for the hour and laid face down on the table. The massage was great and as noted she does the back walk with the bars which is nice to crack your back. She did a lot of teasing and then on the flip asked what I wanted. I said HJ and she obliged and took off all her clothes. Boobs were maybe B's and body was ok. She had a nice shaved kitty and didn't mind me touching. Decent HJ and release and after I was ready to leave with some time left she said she didn't want me to go and to finish my time because the boss would get mad at her so she finished the last 10 minutes with more massage. Cleaned me up and was on my way. I think maybe more is to be had here maybe BJ maybe FS but I didn't want any of that from her. May try to come back and see if there are any others in the rotation.

-Woodyee.

Grimmy23
03-28-21, 13:13
Had my luck today with melanie sent a txt early morning and went down to Downey at noon for an hr session. The hr is 65 plus *40 as always so whoever is paying more is not accurate or just being very generous so when you're generous it confuses the mongers as to how much to take. Either or I had a great time. The best massage I've had their was from Luna when they first opened, she actually gets all your knots but the couple times I've seen her upfront I keep trying for her but she says she can't she only works the front now. I've also had Gaby before with DATY & BBBJ so in my opinion if your a nice dude, clean and a regular you can definitely get more at Havana just from experience. Melanie is more of a soft sensual type of touch, a lot of tease. Banging body! Model type for sure but no DATY nor BBBJ I will try again and see where it takes me. From my understanding they aren't allowed to work elsewhere but a lot of them do come from LF and Honey spas.You won't get anything more out of Melanie or any of the "better" girls at Havana. I've seen Me, make multiple times and she does get a little more naughty as she gets to know you. She's gotten to the point where she darn near camel slides me. Not really, but she gets as close as she possibly can and I shoot on her thighs. It's hot, but I'm 100% certain there's no more to be had. I do t doubt that Gabby and some of the other less popular girls will bend the rules a bit.

Havana is controversial on here purely because of the price and "its just HJ. " To me it comes down to what you want. You can go to Havana and have a full unrushed hour with a young hottie who's naked the entire time and lets you touch everywhere, but you only get a HJ finish a d it will cost you $205. Or you can go to an AMP and for $60 less than that you can likely get a BJ or even FS, but 90% of the time it's going to be a rush job, you don't get to pick your girl, the girl will be "just ok" looking and probably older than you like, and you may or may not get all of her clothes off. In over 30 years of mongering, almost 100% of the time when I've paid for 30 minutes at an AMP I've been in and out the door in about 20, and I can probably count on one both hands and had fingers left over the number of times I've had a provider get completely naked, and by completely naked I don't mean the typical drop the top and lift the skirt up, I mean they take everything off and leave it off for most of the service. And there's always that 10% of the time you go to an AMP ad it's just a crappy experience because you get an older uglier provider, or one who's in a bitchy mood, or one who wants a bigger tip for less service, and you leave pissed off or thinking "shit, I just spent money for that?

Hadez
03-28-21, 13:47
Not sure if anyone is willing to travel but this girl has been getting lots of good reports.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?14535-Massage-Parlor-Reports

MongerMan37
03-28-21, 14:34
You won't get anything more out of Melanie or any of the "better" girls at Havana. I've seen Me, make multiple times and she does get a little more naughty as she gets to know you. She's gotten to the point where she darn near camel slides me. Not really, but she gets as close as she possibly can and I shoot on her thighs. It's hot, but I'm 100% certain there's no more to be had. I do t doubt that Gabby and some of the other less popular girls will bend the rules a bit.

Havana is controversial on here purely because of the price and "its just HJ. " To me it comes down to what you want. You can go to Havana and have a full unrushed hour with a young hottie who's naked the entire time and lets you touch everywhere, but you only get a HJ finish a d it will cost you $205. Or you can go to an AMP and for $60 less than that you can likely get a BJ or even FS, but 90% of the time it's going to be a rush job, you don't get to pick your girl, the girl will be "just ok" looking and probably older than you like, and you may or may not get all of her clothes off. In over 30 years of mongering, almost 100% of the time when I've paid for 30 minutes at an AMP I've been in and out the door in about 20, and I can probably count on one both hands and had fingers left over the number of times I've had a provider get completely naked, and by completely naked I don't mean the typical drop the top and lift the skirt up, I mean they take everything off and leave it off for most of the service. And there's always that 10% of the time you go to an AMP ad it's just a crappy experience because you get an older uglier provider, or one who's in a bitchy mood, or one who wants a bigger tip for less service, and you leave pissed off or thinking "shit, I just spent money for that?Too much Havana talk on the boards lately. Both Melanie and the spa are being put on a pedestal they don't quite belong on. Is Melanie hot? Yes. Does she have a nice body? Yes. Nice personality? Yes. Give an amazing service? Eh probably not. She's one of the better looking providers at Havana without a doubt and that is her main draw. As mentioned before, there is nothing more to be had by Melanie than a HJ. I saw her about 5 times thinking I'd get more. Eventually I straight up asked for the kitty and she said no I don't offer FS. "Loyalty" to her isn't going to get you more. Maybe with the other girls. Personally I'd rather see a less attractive girl if more is to be had in terms of fun. $145 for a HJ is a bit much in my opinion.

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03-28-21, 16:27
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Grimmy23
03-29-21, 11:06
Too much Havana talk on the boards lately. Both Melanie and the spa are being put on a pedestal they don't quite belong on. Is Melanie hot? Yes. Does she have a nice body? Yes. Nice personality? Yes. Give an amazing service? Eh probably not. She's one of the better looking providers at Havana without a doubt and that is her main draw. As mentioned before, there is nothing more to be had by Melanie than a HJ. I saw her about 5 times thinking I'd get more. Eventually I straight up asked for the kitty and she said no I don't offer FS. "Loyalty" to her isn't going to get you more. Maybe with the other girls. Personally I'd rather see a less attractive girl if more is to be had in terms of fun. $145 for a HJ is a bit much in my opinion.I'll use my steak analogy. I want a steak dinner so I go to Ruth's Chris and pay $75. But why in the hell would I do that when I can get a perfectly good steak dinner at Outback for $30? Or one with an all you can eat salad and dessert bar at Golden Corral for $25? Simple answer, they're not the same. Not even close. Sometimes I want that prime piece of beef, and I'll pay top dollar for it even though on the surface I'm paying more for less stuff. But I also can't eat like that all the time. There are times when I want steak and can't afford Ruth's Chris, and the other options satisfy my desire for steak. Or sometimes I only have $10 in my wallet so I just grab In-and-Out.

Likewise, I can go to whatever AMP I'm closest to (because they're all pretty much the same freaking thing) and get FS for $1. 6. But 90% of the time it's going to be from a meh looking provider who's probably older than I'd like, and it's going to be meh service. But hey, it's FS and it satisfies my need for sex at that moment. I've pounded the crap out of more than my fair share of meh looking providers who mostly just laid there like a dead fish, but hey, it's sex so I can't knock it. Once in a while you do get a nice surprise and find a provider that knocks your socks off. That's the other 10%. And there's a little bit of thrill of the chase there for me. Will this be the day I get one of those young hotties?

Havana. Not that they're a top shelf place, but they do have some top shelf girls there. Melanie is one of several that are model quality in terms of looks. Even the worst ones there are pretty decent looking, and every provider I've had there has had nice personalities. Yeah, it doesn't come with any extras and it's pricey, like that prime cut of beef at Ruth's Chris. I won't go there every time for that reason, but there's times when I want that full unrushed hour with a model quality naked girl even though I know I'm going to overpay and all I'm going to get is a HJ.

My last 2 AMP experiences BTW were both BBBJ+CIM for $1. 4. One of them was with the much talked about Rose at Nirvana. Sorry, but I just don't find her attractive, and she actually spends about 5 minutes with you. She'll send another girl in to do the massage part and she just comes in for the finish. The other was at the little place I mentioned in Downey. The girl was cute and she gave a good BJ with lots of slurping, but I couldn't get her clothes off. And in both cases I was in and out of the building, including undressing and re-dressing, in under 30 minutes. There's times when I'll go to an AMP just for a quick HJ. I can usually get that for less than $, but again it's quick and I may or may not get the provider's clothes off or get much mutual touching. But it's ok, I needed to release a load and it served the purpose at that moment. So for me at least it all boils down to having a variety of choices available and what I'm in the mood for that day.

RogerOver
03-29-21, 12:03
I'll use my steak analogy. I want a steak dinner so I go to Ruth's Chris and pay $75. But why in the hell would I do that when I can get a perfectly good steak dinner at Outback for $30? Or one with an all you can eat salad and dessert bar at Golden Corral for $25? Simple answer, they're not the same. Not even close. Sometimes I want that prime piece of beef, and I'll pay top dollar for it even though on the surface I'm paying more for less stuff. But I also can't eat like that all the time. There are times when I want steak and can't afford Ruth's Chris, and the other options satisfy my desire for steak. Or sometimes I only have $10 in my wallet so I just grab In-and-Out.

Likewise, I can go to whatever AMP I'm closest to (because they're all pretty much the same freaking thing) and get FS for $1. 6. But 90% of the time it's going to be from a meh looking provider who's probably older than I'd like, and it's going to be meh service. But hey, it's FS and it satisfies my need for sex at that moment. I've pounded the crap out of more than my fair share of meh looking providers who mostly just laid there like a dead fish, but hey, it's sex so I can't knock it. Once in a while you do get a nice surprise and find a provider that knocks your socks off. That's the other 10%. And there's a little bit of thrill of the chase there for me. Will this be the day I get one of those young hotties?

Havana. Not that they're a top shelf place, but they do have some top shelf girls there. Melanie is one of several that are model quality in terms of looks. Even the worst ones there are pretty decent looking, and every provider I've had there has had nice personalities. Yeah, it doesn't come with any extras and it's pricey, like that prime cut of beef at Ruth's Chris. I won't go there every time for that reason, but there's times when I want that full unrushed hour with a model quality naked girl even though I know I'm going to overpay and all I'm going to get is a HJ.

My last 2 AMP experiences BTW were both BBBJ+CIM for $1. 4. One of them was with the much talked about Rose at Nirvana. Sorry, but I just don't find her attractive, and she actually spends about 5 minutes with you. She'll send another girl in to do the massage part and she just comes in for the finish. The other was at the little place I mentioned in Downey. The girl was cute and she gave a good BJ with lots of slurping, but I couldn't get her clothes off. And in both cases I was in and out of the building, including undressing and re-dressing, in under 30 minutes. There's times when I'll go to an AMP just for a quick HJ. I can usually get that for less than $, but again it's quick and I may or may not get the provider's clothes off or get much mutual touching. But it's ok, I needed to release a load and it served the purpose at that moment. So for me at least it all boils down to having a variety of choices available and what I'm in the mood for that day.Frankly, I've had edging handjobs that rival any BBBJ or even FS. For me it's much more about the experience than whether I got balls deep in a pussy or not. Reminds me of people that sit in the back of the plane and say, "I wouldn't pay for first class. " Ask them if they've ever been in 1st class. Most of them would if they had the disposable income and had an idea of what it's like.

Everyone's different though. Some people just want to fuck and get off. I've never done quick visits or any of that.

ArchOwl
03-29-21, 13:37
I'd forgotten what a real massage was like so I booked an hour with Krystal. She remembered me despite the last time seeing her was pre-COVID times and was as fun as ever. Pricey but worth it IMO.

OneNutSack
03-29-21, 16:02
Was next door having coffee and catching college bball games.

Got a good boner so walked in at Harbor Spa mostly to ask the price as an excuse to see the talent.

Sofia at the front desk was nice (any info on her, does she provide).

I asked her myself if she gives the massage and said no another girl will.

Took a chance and Coco gave the massage and HJ.

Massage was meh.

HJ was meh but she did let me grabs a fist full of T&A.

$60 total and seems a bit too high for me.

Price was asked up front and it seems like the girls here don't budge as I over heard another monger say he had to go get more cash from his car.

I myself gave coco $45 in cash and payed the rest afterwards on my card.

I did not like this and could have said no thank you and just get a regular massage with no ending but ehh.

Coco did massage me after the HJ and I did get my full 1 hr so that was nice.

Maybe I'll try again maybe I won't.

I'll appreciate any intel on legit full 1 hr massage with HJ for either cheaper or if it's also $60 perhaps better service.

Thanks!

MongerMan37
03-29-21, 16:57
I'll use my steak analogy. I want a steak dinner so I go to Ruth's Chris and pay $75. But why in the hell would I do that when I can get a perfectly good steak dinner at Outback for $30? Or one with an all you can eat salad and dessert bar at Golden Corral for $25? Simple answer, they're not the same. Not even close. Sometimes I want that prime piece of beef, and I'll pay top dollar for it even though on the surface I'm paying more for less stuff. But I also can't eat like that all the time. There are times when I want steak and can't afford Ruth's Chris, and the other options satisfy my desire for steak. Or sometimes I only have $10 in my wallet so I just grab In-and-Out.

Likewise, I can go to whatever AMP I'm closest to (because they're all pretty much the same freaking thing) and get FS for $1. 6. But 90% of the time it's going to be from a meh looking provider who's probably older than I'd like, and it's going to be meh service. But hey, it's FS and it satisfies my need for sex at that moment. I've pounded the crap out of more than my fair share of meh looking providers who mostly just laid there like a dead fish, but hey, it's sex so I can't knock it. Once in a while you do get a nice surprise and find a provider that knocks your socks off. That's the other 10%. And there's a little bit of thrill of the chase there for me. Will this be the day I get one of those young hotties?

Havana. Not that they're a top shelf place, but they do have some top shelf girls there. Melanie is one of several that are model quality in terms of looks. Even the worst ones there are pretty decent looking, and every provider I've had there has had nice personalities. Yeah, it doesn't come with any extras and it's pricey, like that prime cut of beef at Ruth's Chris. I won't go there every time for that reason, but there's times when I want that full unrushed hour with a model quality naked girl even though I know I'm going to overpay and all I'm going to get is a HJ.While I agree with you in a sense, I think my original message may have been taken out of context. I initially said if you want a real nuru massage then don't go to Havana. If your main goal is to get jerked off by a hot chick with little body to body action then book an appointment at Havana ASAP. I have nothing against paying the $145 as I've gone many many times, but I know beforehand I'm probably going to leave disappointed. The same generally goes for the honey affiliate spas. Think what you want about me, but a lot of these girls aren't worth that $100 tip. The fact that a lot asks for the tip first kinda proves that. If guys tipped fairly based off of the real service provided these girls would be making a heck of a lot less.

I'm also not someone that needs to have a lot of extras to feel like I had a good time. I wouldn't be surprised if some of you are getting better service with a particular girl then someone else might get and vice versa. By saying I'd book with someone else who is less attractive I meant in the sense of Gabby. If Gabby is going to give me a BBBJ for the same 100 tip or slightly more, then I'd book her over a better looking girl that just gives the HJ.

Wireless91910
03-29-21, 17:27
Not bragging, but I only fly First Class and It's such a huge difference.


Frankly, I've had edging handjobs that rival any BBBJ or even FS. For me it's much more about the experience than whether I got balls deep in a pussy or not. Reminds me of people that sit in the back of the plane and say, "I wouldn't pay for first class. " Ask them if they've ever been in 1st class. Most of them would if they had the disposable income and had an idea of what it's like.

Everyone's different though. Some people just want to fuck and get off. I've never done quick visits or any of that.