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Opinions and perceptions are subjective. Regardless to the personal approach it is sex for money. That transaction is the same regardless of what you call it.
Google search.
Sugar baby*.
A transactional dating practice typically characterized by an older wealthier person and a younger person in need of financial assistance in a mutually beneficial relationship.
Prostitution*.
The practice or occupation of engaging in sexual activity with someone for payment.
The difference between a street walker, prostitute and a "Sugar Baby" is primarily the motivation and how they ply their trade. Those differences are mostly defined by the individuals socioeconomic status.
There is another forum here tagged Legal issues and strategies. I've not seen anyone suggest a sugar baby defense. No your Honor, It was a sugar baby not a prostitute. Case dismissed?
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Opinions and perceptions are subjective. Regardless to the personal approach it is sex for money. That transaction is the same regardless of what you call it.
Google search.
Sugar baby*.
A transactional dating practice typically characterized by an older wealthier person and a younger person in need of financial assistance in a mutually beneficial relationship.
Prostitution*.
The practice or occupation of engaging in sexual activity with someone for payment.
The difference between a street walker, prostitute and a "Sugar Baby" is primarily the motivation and how they ply their trade. Those differences are mostly defined by the individuals socioeconomic status.
There is another forum here tagged Legal issues and strategies. I've not seen anyone suggest a sugar baby defense. No your Honor, It was a sugar baby not a prostitute. Case dismissed?
*.What you're missing here is that in a legit Sugar Baby relationship there is an actual relationship. If its simple quid pro quo, money for sex that's prostitution. In a true sugar relationship money and sex are a part of a larger relationship. Similar to if someone marries for money. Their primary motivation may be money It's part of something larger.
With that said most of what I see on th SB sites is really prostitution but that doesn't mean that other types of relationships don't exist.
What you're missing here is that in a legit Sugar Baby relationship there is an actual relationship. If its simple quid pro quo, money for sex that's prostitution. In a true sugar relationship money and sex are a part of a larger relationship. Similar to if someone marries for money. Their primary motivation may be money It's part of something larger.
With that said most of what I see on th SB sites is really prostitution but that doesn't mean that other types of relationships don't exist.Realistically, anyone in a relationship could be prosecuted under the new statute the way its written. Whats stopping the lawmakers from saying "hey, you and your wife went out to dinner last night and we have probable cause to believe you had sex last night, were going to make up that it was implied that something of value was indeed implicitly or explicitly exchanged for sexual activity. " that's why I'm so passionate about the topic and hate that its enforced, its the stupidest law on the books period and an infringement on our freedoms. The government should get out of people's business. It can be argued that its all prostitution, its just a matter of how transactional.
Realistically, anyone in a relationship could be prosecuted under the new statute the way its written. Whats stopping the lawmakers from saying "hey, you and your wife went out to dinner last night and we have probable cause to believe you had sex last night, were going to make up that it was implied that something of value was indeed implicitly or explicitly exchanged for sexual activity. " that's why I'm so passionate about the topic and hate that its enforced, its the stupidest law on the books period and an infringement on our freedoms. The government should get out of people's business. It can be argued that its all prostitution, its just a matter of how transactional.I need to look at the law and how it's worded. Also I didn't initially take this as a legal discussion. Boiling it down to basics my position is that if it's purely transactional, person a gives person b money for sex, that's prostitution. But if person a and person b have a relationship in which items of value may be exchanged and sex are involved as a part but not the sole reason for the relationship that would be something.
And frankly if you can establish that a relationship exist successful prosecution for prostitution is nearly impossible.
What you're missing here is that in a legit Sugar Baby relationship there is an actual relationship. If its simple quid pro quo, money for sex that's prostitution. In a true sugar relationship money and sex are a part of a larger relationship. Similar to if someone marries for money. Their primary motivation may be money It's part of something larger.
With that said most of what I see on th SB sites is really prostitution but that doesn't mean that other types of relationships don't exist.HotRod, I'm not disagreeing that a White Knight feeling can visit even the most jaded of us. Next time you're feeling that so real and special connection test it. Tell her you're in a short term financial bind and still want to see her skipping a months dues. Maybe the dream will be true or more likely she will say catch me when your wallet is heals. That is a special reality. Like it or not we are paying up to play above our standard game. No pay and it's back to reality. Your willingness to pay more than average no doubt garners you the the extra connection. They don't want to kill the cash cow.
Realistically, anyone in a relationship could be prosecuted under the new statute the way its written. Whats stopping the lawmakers from saying "hey, you and your wife went out to dinner last night and we have probable cause to believe you had sex last night, were going to make up that it was implied that something of value was indeed implicitly or explicitly exchanged for sexual activity. " that's why I'm so passionate about the topic and hate that its enforced, its the stupidest law on the books period and an infringement on our freedoms. The government should get out of people's business. It can be argued that its all prostitution, its just a matter of how transactional.Well, that's why it's none of the government's business. There's no clear way to draw a line when you think about the details. Porn is a good example too. I hire an actress to act a scene with me, I'm doing the same thing, am I not? I'm paying for sex with perhaps the hope of monetizing it elsewhere. It's still paying for sex.
HotRod, I'm not disagreeing that a White Knight feeling can visit even the most jaded of us. Next time you're feeling that so real and special connection test it. Tell her you're in a short term financial bind and still want to see her skipping a months dues. Maybe the dream will be true or more likely she will say catch me when your wallet is heals. That is a special reality. Like it or not we are paying up to play above our standard game. No pay and it's back to reality. Your willingness to pay more than average no doubt garners you the the extra connection. They don't want to kill the cash cow.I think your missing what I'm saying. Just for context I'm a divorced guy who doesn't normally date anymore. I still enjoy going out for a nice dinner, why not have a beautiful companion? I go to Vegas twice a year. It's much more fun with company. Sex may or may not happen, depends how things feel any individual day. Business function and need a date, why not arm candy? It's understood that financial support is expect but it's not a payout for every meeting.
I've developed a couple of true friendships this way. I've done this for years. I had one friend who I actually did help through college, helped her get a job when she graduated and stayed in contact with after she got married. Now the sex and money stopped 2 years ago but we still talk regularly. Her husband knows me as uncle Roderick. I give her career advice every now and then.
Now granted this type of relationship is the exception but to me that's a true sugar type relationship.
I sometimes just want to pound the shit out of some pussy and drop a load giving 0 fucks about her feelings or if she enjoyed it. That's what prostitutes are for. I've gone to OGD and fucked Jada in the ass but there is no way in hell I'd be seen in public with her.
Different tools for different purposes.
I need to look at the law and how it's worded. Also I didn't initially take this as a legal discussion. Boiling it down to basics my position is that if it's purely transactional, person a gives person b money for sex, that's prostitution. But if person a and person b have a relationship in which items of value may be exchanged and sex are involved as a part but not the sole reason for the relationship that would be something.
And frankly if you can establish that a relationship exist successful prosecution for prostitution is nearly impossible.Wasnt trying to start a legal discussion more of as I was just trying to mention the absurdity of the law existing in the first place.
Completely in agreement with you on the statements that you made in your most recent comments, its nice to have a companion every once in a while as a divorced guy myself, without having the headaches. Some of the greatest friendships that I have developed through this hobby, and I've met some of the most genuine people. It can also, if you conduct yourself properly, lead to networking which can provide career opportunities. Just more reasons why Yost can eat a dick. If not legalization, at least taking the criminal element out of the hobby and decriminalizing would be beneficial in many ways.
Wasnt trying to start a legal discussion more of as I was just trying to mention the absurdity of the law existing in the first place.
Completely in agreement with you on the statements that you made in your most recent comments, its nice to have a companion every once in a while as a divorced guy myself, without having the headaches. Some of the greatest friendships that I have developed through this hobby, and I've met some of the most genuine people. It can also, if you conduct yourself properly, lead to networking which can provide career opportunities. Just more reasons why Yost can eat a dick. If not legalization, at least taking the criminal element out of the hobby and decriminalizing would be beneficial in many ways.Here here. Decriminalize prostitution. Now pimping? I think you should throw those guys under the jail.
Here here. Decriminalize prostitution. Now pimping? I think you should throw those guys under the jail.Amen to that brother!
You guys are pretty much all correct. The definition of Prostitution changes, however, with the person defining and their motivations for having a definition. The scale is quite long, starting with the wife who allows sexual acts in return for security, or allows sexual acts she doesn't usually do for a mink coat, LOL, to the unfortunate street addict who plies her trade in order to support her habit.
A very long scale indeed.
The issue we consumers face is not the act, but the motivations of the people behind the laws, which we all know, (or should know,) are designed to control men. That's the bottom line I think. The religionists, the.
Bluenoses, all of them want to control the actions of men because they benefit in some way from that control.
Cheech.
Well, that's why it's none of the government's business. There's no clear way to draw a line when you think about the details. Porn is a good example too. I hire an actress to act a scene with me, I'm doing the same thing, am I not? I'm paying for sex with perhaps the hope of monetizing it elsewhere. It's still paying for sex.That is why, as long as you keep the text non explicit and confirm you arent looking for anything sexual just time, the law is completely unenforceable as long as you don't incriminate yourself and as long as you don't talk to the cop when they try to talk to you.
I posted this in the SB section but perhaps it works here too. Admin feel free to remove if it does not go here.
I do think the SB scene is pretty different than the escort scene. Not sure how others do / see this but for me the experience is totally different between the two.
One major difference is that the SB gets to see you before she decides to go on a date with you, the escort does not care.
Escorts focus on money first, everything else after.
SB's tend to be more selective (not always because escorts work that site too).
If you have game / some looks / manners / hygiene, you can get repeat dates from SBs. If you don't, you defiantly won't.
I will cross post this in another thread, but that one sort of went in a legal direction so I am not sure if this post will gather traction there.
All of this is common sense and YMMV. For me the SB scene fits better because I want more than just a "date", think FWB in exchange for cash / dinners / shopping. Also, the low volume, drug free, no kids aspect is totally worth the price of admission.
Again, this is just from my point of view but I feel it is pretty accurate in it's scope.
I posted this in the SB section but perhaps it works here too. Admin feel free to remove if it does not go here.
I do think the SB scene is pretty different than the escort scene. Not sure how others do / see this but for me the experience is totally different between the two.
One major difference is that the SB gets to see you before she decides to go on a date with you, the escort does not care.
Escorts focus on money first, everything else after.
SB's tend to be more selective (not always because escorts work that site too).
If you have game / some looks / manners / hygiene, you can get repeat dates from SBs. If you don't, you defiantly won't.
I will cross post this in another thread, but that one sort of went in a legal direction so I am not sure if this post will gather traction there..I think the really sums things up, at least in my view, about why I'm interested in SBs but not really escorts. There are also lots of shades of gray in-between and I generally avoid any SBs who operate more like escorts. Red flags are not giving the appearance of being selective, being fine skipping meeting and just inviting you over to fuck (this becomes less of a red flag if they are active in texting / sexting), messing up comms where they are clearly texting tons of dudes and can't keep track, etc.
I've even had SB's who never really even asked for or wanted money. A nice date and hotel, treating them well, some gifts, and they are more than happy with the arrangement. A lot are legitimately attracted to older guys, like the stability, maturity, etc. Also, even if they are well-adjusted girls with their lives mostly together, many have some sort of issues with either a bad or absent father.
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