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I loved these pictures this agency does with all its 25 companions. They each have different poses with Teddy as well as their own pictures and each has a video. All are in their 20's and stats shown.
If only we could do this in the USA And I'd love to be their Teddy.
Hourly rate is $CDN200/ hour = about $US150/ hour.
Attached is an image I put together my favorite 5 shots, each is a different gal but they kind of look similar.
Canadian agencies never had a problem under the old living off the avails law which was declared unconstitutional nor now with C36 since they are very clear their services are only for time, not sex.
Click thumbnail to open large.
http://phxlist.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=19010
CBS News Highlights: New Attitude about "Johns".
Seattle non-profit called the Organization for Prostitution Survivors, is a group that not only provides services for women, but also helps counsel the men who buy sex, too.
"The men who are buying the sex are buying it from a very broken place in their heart, where they're trying to fill a void -- they're trying to numb whatever pain they have. "They're trying to feel powerful. They're trying to feel in control and desirable. ".
"Prostitution, it's called a trick for a reason. "It's called a trick because he's paying for the illusion of consent. He's paying for the illusion of mutuality, when in fact what we know is that it's not a mutual sexual experience. ".
He leads a 10-week class on the consequences of prostitution. Anyone caught buying sex in Seattle is now required, to attend that class by law. "Until we take on the issue of demand, and the issue of why men feel entitled to pay for sex in the first place, we're really not going to be able to move the needle in any significant way," he said.
Unlike Seattle, Las Vegas cracks down on everyone -- the sellers as well as the buyers. Lt. Spencer doesn't see that as victimizing the victims. In her experience, the arrests help identify those too afraid to identify themselves.
Numerous survivors have told her that being arrested saved their lives. "We open the door for help. And if we don't do that, who's going to do it? If I don't offer them help, who's going to? No one. There's no one going to help them. ".
Dave notes so much for the victim and shame industry, the positive side is provide by CM:
CM who calls herself a sex worker, not a prostitute. She's a Seattle mother of two who, despite the fact it's illegal, sees it as her right to run her body as a business.
"I choose this. "I say to people when they say, No one would choose this, I say, I do. I choose this because I'm proud of what I do. ".
She knows she's largely the exception, and sympathizes with those who aren't doing this willingly. But she says the best way to protect them, and at the same time to preserve her rights, is to legitimize what she does. "It would bring it out of darkness and back streets, and into the light," she explained.
What might decriminalization look like?
CM says just the way she practices her sex work now. She has no pimp, and doesn't roam the streets. She works out of a condo she rents with two other women. And, she says, they all have strict safety guidelines.
"All of my clients need to have references from other sex workers," she said. "And if they don't have references, then a potential client would have to give me their real first name and their real workplace, and I will call them at work through the main switchboard and verify all of that. ".
Her point -- and this is controversial -- is that sex traffickers don't generally trade in places where buying sex is permitted. And that, she says, keeps everyone safer.
"There is a huge population of sex workers who are doing this in a healthy way. And you don't see us, 'cause we're not causing problems. ".
"So what do you say to people who think that this is just a crazy lifestyle and no single mom should be doing this? I tell them it's not their life! "And you don't walk in my shoes every day. I actually live a very clean, safe life, I go home and do my cooking, cleaning chores.
The age-old question: Is prostitution an illicit vice or a lawful business? Is it sex work or sexual exploitation? The divide is deep, and the battle lines are being drawn. However uncomfortable, an issue long in the shadows seems to be hiding no more.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/caught-in-the-life-the-business-of-prostitution/
Ass Lover 77
05-10-17, 18:48
I've seen lots of escorts, but never had a regular.
I think many girls require you to visit them for some number of regular priced visits before you qualify for regular prices.
I had one girl tell me she would allow me to get regular prices starting with the 2nd visit.
Can anyone shed light on price and frequency of visits to regulars?
For instance, if an escort advertises full price rates of $100/30 min escort or $200/1 hour escort, how much would she charge a regular for 1-2 escort visits / week?
Thanks!
MyDixieWrecked
05-10-17, 21:57
For instance, if an escort advertises full price rates of $100/30 min escort or $200/1 hour escort, how much would she charge a regular for 1-2 escort visits / week?
Thanks!It's okay gents, I'll handle this one.
Every escort uses this same formula. I will let you do the particulars and figure out what your rate will be. First, you take you weigh, and divide that by 22 times your age. Then take the square root of your penis length times the girth and take the product of that sum and subtract if from your original number. Treat that unit as a percentage. Use the escorts normal rate, and deduct your percentage from the amount and there you have it, your discount.
Weight / (22 X (years) minus PLx PG)=% off.
Good luck, and happy calculating.
It's okay gents, I'll handle this one.
Every escort uses this same formula. I will let you do the particulars and figure out what your rate will be. First, you take you weigh, and divide that by 22 times your age. Then take the square root of your penis length times the girth and take the product of that sum and subtract if from your original number. Treat that unit as a percentage. Use the escorts normal rate, and deduct your percentage from the amount and there you have it, your discount.
Weight / (22 X (years) minus PLx PG)=% off.
Good luck, and happy calculating.That is a good formula, I spent hours on it, and kept coming up with the same answer. All my money. Shocking women take all my money. Now the universe makes scene.
I've seen lots of escorts, but never had a regular.
I think many girls require you to visit them for some number of regular priced visits before you qualify for regular prices.
I had one girl tell me she would allow me to get regular prices starting with the 2nd visit.
Can anyone shed light on price and frequency of visits to regulars?
For instance, if an escort advertises full price rates of $100/30 min escort or $200/1 hour escort, how much would she charge a regular for 1-2 escort visits / week?
Thanks!I'll take a serious stab at answering this question. The answer is there's no special regular rate. In my experience if you see a girl frequently she'll probably aske for the same thing everytime. The wrinkle comes in when maybe business is slow for her and you've seen her a few times and she's fond of you. Maybe she'll call looking for an appointment and will be willing to give you a lower rate if you're smart enough to recognize your advantage in the negotiation. If you've built good rapport and can talk the talk maybe you can get that reduced rate on a regular basis.
Typically doesn't work that way with traveling girls who do this full time, in my experience it works out this way with local girls who you have easier access to. Hope this provides some kind of answer to your question.
XoxoBarbie
05-12-17, 16:17
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I'll take a serious stab at answering this question. The answer is there's no special regular rate. In my experience if you see a girl frequently she'll probably aske for the same thing everytime. The wrinkle comes in when maybe business is slow for her and you've seen her a few times and she's fond of you. Maybe she'll call looking for an appointment and will be willing to give you a lower rate if you're smart enough to recognize your advantage in the negotiation. If you've built good rapport and can talk the talk maybe you can get that reduced rate on a regular basis.
Typically doesn't work that way with traveling girls who do this full time, in my experience it works out this way with local girls who you have easier access to. Hope this provides some kind of answer to your question.I agree with Marssmrk. Sometimes they will open up more and offer more if you become a regular at the same price!
Ass Lover 77
05-15-17, 20:11
I agree with Marssmrk. Sometimes they will open up more and offer more if you become a regular at the same price!Thanks for sharing your experiences.
AssLover77.
Age 41, actual 1st name, Kelly, 5' 4", 120#. (verified both via a DL).
The good: Pics are accurate (but do Not do her justice), does NOT smoke, lives in Glendale near 51st av and T-bird. Very intelligent, great body, seems to be clean (never had kids).
The bad: NOT dependable, sometimes very slow to respond to text messages, has a big horse problem, can NOT host, (smells of smoke, but that is cause her female roommate smokes like a chimney -can tell it is NOT on her breath), no set of wheels. Loads of drama. At one point, literally became incoherent.
Had her over to my abode 3 times, spent the night once. Finally got tired of her BS excuses.
Never did pay her, took her out to dinner a few times, let her do laundry at my place etc (too show her appreciation, cleaned my bath room- LOL).
Silly girl actually wanted to move in with me!
Very much on a downward spiral.
JamesJ.
Hello mongers,
I will be visiting the Scottsdale area next week. Can anyone recommend an independent provider for an out call massage? Thank you for any help.
Nothing good is in Scottsdale I would recommend avoiding that place.
Hello mongers,
I will be visiting the Scottsdale area next week. Can anyone recommend an independent provider for an out call massage? Thank you for any help.
Nothing good is in Scottsdale I would recommend avoiding that place.Can you give me a little more info.
Maybe pm?
Thanks.
Desert Rat
06-08-17, 03:24
Age 41, actual 1st name, Kelly, 5' 4", 120#. (verified both via a DL).
The good: Pics are accurate (but do Not do her justice), does NOT smoke, lives in Glendale near 51st av and T-bird. Very intelligent, great body, seems to be clean (never had kids).
The bad: NOT dependable, sometimes very slow to respond to text messages, has a big horse problem, can NOT host, (smells of smoke, but that is cause her female roommate smokes like a chimney -can tell it is NOT on her breath), no set of wheels. Loads of drama. At one point, literally became incoherent.
Had her over to my abode 3 times, spent the night once. Finally got tired of her BS excuses.
Never did pay her, took her out to dinner a few times, let her do laundry at my place etc (too show her appreciation, cleaned my bath room- LOL).
Silly girl actually wanted to move in with me!
Very much on a downward spiral.
JamesJ.I had a similar experience but she was a stripper 20 years younger. The difference was she would bring people to party at my house when I was gone. Lots of Train wrecks out there.
MikeELikes
06-09-17, 17:08
Hello fellow mongers,
New to this site, but not to the game. Have some posts to put in their respective categories / cities. Just wanted to start by saying thanks for all the great info. I'm glad I found this site, it is by far the best I've seen. Plus it's free?? That's a word you don't get a lot of in our world!
Mike E.
Sting on snapchat. Strange lady joined my friends list I never added her and she has no plausible background. She is posting videos of her "dad" excercising whom I believe is actually her partner. Feel bad for him if the annual physical agility test he is training for is in the summer months. She seems to appear older than she acts and doesn't have the usual friends / drama that most girls have nor does she post stomach pics / pics of intimate piercings / toplesspics or anything risque.
Another conspiracy theory from the tin foil hat wearing schwanzgrande / drpoon. If she doesn't have or send you topless pics then it is a sting. Obviously she was added to the snapchat friend list. SMFH that some people actually live through a day.
Great I will just send Sealasorp to meet her with instructions to raise his left eyebrow in his mugshot then we can check the mcso site in the next few days to see the results.
I think a good caffeine daily balance can be achieved by one of those diet red bulls about 8. 4 oz plus a 44 oz QT diet coke a while later. The diet red bull has rapid onset, but the 44 oz provides sustained hydration.
After all the attempted scams on Seeking Arrangement, hooked up with a 42 YO Sexysindy.
Pics are accurate, great service. Nice personality.
Picked her up in South PHX for fun at my abode.
Upon arrival chilled a bit as she enjoyed a glass of Zinfandel.
SHE suggested "we mess around" Off to BR, clothes off and the fun began!
She splits time between here and San Fran.
Think she may be new to the game as she did NOT discuss donation (nor did I bring it up) until after the deed and we where ready to depart.
Requested 2 BENS, but settled for him solo.
Said she would be glad to repeat as I helped her get off also (NO doubt she enjoyed as well!
Will definitely repeat.
JAMESJ.
Desert Rat
06-27-17, 01:29
I appreciate the report. I delete every profile for any women over 25 years old on SA. I guess I should branch out a little. I will look her up.
Exchanged a few messages with Sweetnes1212 on WYP. (offer of 25 was accepted) Correct 1st name Lechele.
After exchanging numbers and texting for a bit, agreed on a BEN for full hour of FS at my abode. Took 1 1/2 days of back and forth negotiations.
Her pics are accurate, but age maybe closer to 40 , then 36 as stated.
Picked her up at 19th Av and Glendale. Returned her to 7th av & IS.
Has a bit of baby damage (3 kids), a bit of ruff completion on face, thin, nice boobs, tall (5'8".
Overall, 7 maybe.
The session was good, can really give head.
She Took a shower and put different clothes and makeup on before I returned her.
For a bill not bad, but like variety. Did NOT pay her till the drop off point.
Says she NEVER works 27th.
May repeat.
JAMESJ.
Exchanged a few messages with Sweetnes1212 on WYP. (offer of 25 was accepted) Correct 1st name Lechele.
After exchanging numbers and texting for a bit, agreed on a BEN for full hour of FS at my abode. Took 1 1/2 days of back and forth negotiations.
Her pics are accurate, but age maybe closer to 40 , then 36 as stated.
Picked her up at 19th Av and Glendale. Returned her to 7th av & IS.
Has a bit of baby damage (3 kids), a bit of ruff completion on face, thin, nice boobs, tall (5'8".
Overall, 7 maybe.
The session was good, can really give head.
She Took a shower and put different clothes and makeup on before I returned her.
For a bill not bad, but like variety. Did NOT pay her till the drop off point.
Says she NEVER works 27th.
May repeat.
JAMESJ.Nice report. I've never had any luck on WYP with anything lower than 3 bens.
Been getting some hits on SA but negotiations are getting harder due to Inflation costs.
Will share if I find a gem.
Anyone ever met a gal who's Email name is Zee Bee? She's off of Ray Rd and 101 and answered a CL Ad. Nice looking trying real hard to meet her today around noon. I'll scope out if she is interested in seeing others as well. Her googled phone points to an old provider from years ago (not her) otherwise no other info out there about her.
Anyone ever met a gal who's Email name is Zee Bee? She's off of Ray Rd and 101 and answered a CL Ad. Nice looking trying real hard to meet her today around noon. I'll scope out if she is interested in seeing others as well. Her googled phone points to an old provider from years ago (not her) otherwise no other info out there about her.Never had her reply to my posts. Good luck brother and be safe.
I was watching this show last night when DPS pulled a vehicle leaving the arcade near 23rd & Holly. Use those turn signals, folks! DPS officer says "So, you were buying porn? LOL.
Ripped Off123
07-28-17, 02:40
Anyone tried using Tinder to get girls vs craigslist? I'm not sure why, but recently I've matched with lot of girls on there looking for sugar daddies. They are generally very hot, and they are legit with instagram account linked. I haven't made any offer since I've never tried these straight up arrangements. Just wonder if you guys have and what you would offer them. If you haven't, then I would recommend you try it with younger age range, since the younger girls will generally match with an older dude because she's looking for a sugar daddy is my guess. Would be interesting to see anyone's reports.
I did have a small arrangement with a different girl on tinder that didn't start out as sugar daddy scenario, basically a ben per session. But she acted like we were dating and we hanged out longer than I had time for, and she talks too much for my taste. Had to end it after a month, but I think price was decent.
Anyone tried using Tinder to get girls vs craigslist? I'm not sure why, but recently I've matched with lot of girls on there looking for sugar daddies. They are generally very hot, and they are legit with instagram account linked. I haven't made any offer since I've never tried these straight up arrangements. Just wonder if you guys have and what you would offer them. If you haven't, then I would recommend you try it with younger age range, since the younger girls will generally match with an older dude because she's looking for a sugar daddy is my guess. Would be interesting to see anyone's reports.
I did have a small arrangement with a different girl on tinder that didn't start out as sugar daddy scenario, basically a ben per session. But she acted like we were dating and we hanged out longer than I had time for, and she talks too much for my taste. Had to end it after a month, but I think price was decent.I think apps like Tinder for this kinda thing is becoming more legit as C. L. Is full of junk in the W4 M category. For the rainbow crowd C. L. Is alive and well. The problem with Tinder is it is a phone app, and since my phone is corporate, and monitored, I can't partake. And it would raise very large red flags if I were to be found with a burner.
SuperBad69
07-29-17, 00:17
Anyone tried using Tinder to get girls vs craigslist? I'm not sure why, but recently I've matched with lot of girls on there looking for sugar daddies. They are generally very hot, and they are legit with instagram account linked. I haven't made any offer since I've never tried these straight up arrangements. Just wonder if you guys have and what you would offer them. If you haven't, then I would recommend you try it with younger age range, since the younger girls will generally match with an older dude because she's looking for a sugar daddy is my guess. Would be interesting to see anyone's reports.
I did have a small arrangement with a different girl on tinder that didn't start out as sugar daddy scenario, basically a ben per session. But she acted like we were dating and we hanged out longer than I had time for, and she talks too much for my taste. Had to end it after a month, but I think price was decent.Thats an interesting idea. How do you tell the regular girls from the ones that we are looking for?
Ripped Off123
07-29-17, 13:13
Thats an interesting idea. How do you tell the regular girls from the ones that we are looking for?They either have an emoji with dollar signs or they straight up tell you in their profile they are looking for sugar daddies.
SuperBad69
07-30-17, 01:49
They either have an emoji with dollar signs or they straight up tell you in their profile they are looking for sugar daddies.Thanks. I looked last night and didn't notice any that had that but I only went thru a few.
They either have an emoji with dollar signs or they straight up tell you in their profile they are looking for sugar daddies.They either will meet you based for free or they are pretty much all amanable to various amounts of compensation. Casual encounters I. E. Not looking for a traditional relationship is sort of a de facto sugar baby advertisement section.
From AF, claims to be 20 years old from Mesa.
Wanted me to send 800 to her Squarecash or Google pay account, then 400 more IF we meet! (LOL).
Number she (they) used 480-457-*658.
Told her "off course" , "money on the way ".
COMPLETE SCAMMER-AVOID.
JAMESJ.
Is it just me or does Florida seem to be the place for mongering. AZ used to be so much better back in the day.
I have been to Florida but just for transit purposes and never met anyone there but I understand it is much more expensive. I would recommend Washington for poon at least the BBBJ is standard.
Is it just me or does Florida seem to be the place for mongering. AZ used to be so much better back in the day.
Yes and no, having just moved from florida to AZ. Each area is different. Orlando area is great for BP and escorts due to the high tourism and conventions, also a very high concentration of SW, tampa and st pete is great for AMP and strip clubs, south florida is a mix of everything but more roses for strip clubs and BP.
Is it just me or does Florida seem to be the place for mongering. AZ used to be so much better back in the day..
Is it just me or does Florida seem to be the place for mongering. AZ used to be so much better back in the day.Think about it, most girls who travel don't want to come here in the summer, but we get a lot more activity fall through spring. Every area the locals and street girls are different.
Think about it, most girls who travel don't want to come here in the summer, but we get a lot more activity fall through spring. Every area the locals and street girls are different.Agree. It just seems you could find more dependable regulars back in the day.
Well damn. I found a real diamond in the rough, and things were going swell (so I thought) then after 3-4 encounters she stopped responding to Emails. Finally she came back to me with some off the wall shit and then after some back and forth at long last come to find out she just doesn't like the idea of fucking a married man. Doesn't want to be 'the-other-woman'. Shit. It was getting hotter and hotter too. So. The search continues. Fuck and she was good looking, loved to fuck around, sucked a good dick, and loved a finger in her ass to boot. I was sure my cock was eventually going to land there too.
Bareback Guy
08-20-17, 17:57
Don't know about anyone else, but a few times I was able to find a girl at one of the casinos around town (usually Casino Arizona). They were usually broke and stranded, and in a few cases, desperate enough to exchange some playtime for a ride home.
Member #5697
08-23-17, 01:57
Nice report. I've never had any luck on WYP with anything lower than 3 bens.
Been getting some hits on SA but negotiations are getting harder due to Inflation costs.
Will share if I find a gem.What are WYP and SA? Websites?
What are WYP and SA? Websites?https://www.whatsyourprice.com/
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/
What are WYP and SA? Websites?WYP = WhatsYourPrice.
SA = SeekingArrangement.
Both are websites that are basically for paid dates and / or sugar daddy / sugar baby arrangements.
Well damn. I found a real diamond in the rough, and things were going swell (so I thought) then after 3-4 encounters she stopped responding to Emails. Finally she came back to me with some off the wall shit and then after some back and forth at long last come to find out she just doesn't like the idea of fucking a married man. Doesn't want to be 'the-other-woman'. Shit. It was getting hotter and hotter too. So. The search continues. Fuck and she was good looking, loved to fuck around, sucked a good dick, and loved a finger in her ass to boot. I was sure my cock was eventually going to land there too.Got an Email from this gal last night. Seems she has thought it over. Went to see her today for very hot session. Lots of DFK / LFK / Breast Play / DATY / BBBJ / Rode me like a champ. The BBBJ was most excellent. And god did she look hot riding me.
Back in the saddle again. And at only 1. 5 it's such a deal. UTR heaven. Hope it continues. Just so happens the little wife goes out of town most of September. Hmmmmm.
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Bareback Guy
09-11-17, 19:18
So after Hurricane Harvey messed up a good chunk of SE Texas (including the Houston metro) and Hurricane Irma blew through almost all of Florida, do you guys see more visitors coming to Arizona? Specifically to the Phoenix area? I remember being in the valley after Hurricane Katrina brought a lot of people to Arizona. As far as working girls went, I felt like there was so much action I couldn't keep up. I know there were probably a lot of other factors though.
So after Hurricane Harvey messed up a good chunk of SE Texas (including the Houston metro) and Hurricane Irma blew through almost all of Florida, do you guys see more visitors coming to Arizona? Specifically to the Phoenix area? I remember being in the valley after Hurricane Katrina brought a lot of people to Arizona. As far as working girls went, I felt like there was so much action I couldn't keep up. I know there were probably a lot of other factors though.You may be onto something. Hope you are correct.
Also consider the weather factor / time of year.
Many (regular) people also migrate to Arizona for the fall and winter seasons.
It becomes a supply and demand type situation.
And please, do not tell me ever old codger that tells his wife he is headed out for a round of golf with buddies, ends up at the country club /19th hole.
More likely a different type hole!
Be safe, and happy hunting.
Jamesj.
Anyone know of any nicer Hotels in the Chandler / I-10 area that will let you pay cash. Or do an under-the-table thing for like 1/2 a day. Anything like that?
AzPussyLicker
09-13-17, 13:31
So after Hurricane Harvey messed up a good chunk of SE Texas (including the Houston metro) and Hurricane Irma blew through almost all of Florida, do you guys see more visitors coming to Arizona? Specifically to the Phoenix area? I remember being in the valley after Hurricane Katrina brought a lot of people to Arizona. As far as working girls went, I felt like there was so much action I couldn't keep up. I know there were probably a lot of other factors though.Didn't they bring people into Phoenix from Hurricane Katrina. I think they were staying at the Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum. I'm thinking maybe that had to do with the arrival of new providers. Did they do that for hurricane Harvey? I don't know I haven't been watching the news lately.
PhillyFan45
09-13-17, 13:40
Anyone know of any nicer Hotels in the Chandler / I-10 area that will let you pay cash. Or do an under-the-table thing for like 1/2 a day. Anything like that?2-3 on Arizona Ave that I'm betting would.
2-3 on Arizona Ave that I'm betting would.Yea but would I get killed there. ? LOL.
Bareback Guy
09-15-17, 01:06
Didn't they bring people into Phoenix from Hurricane Katrina. I think they were staying at the Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum. I'm thinking maybe that had to do with the arrival of new providers. Did they do that for hurricane Harvey? I don't know I haven't been watching the news lately.I don't know of anyone being brought to Arizona from Texas or Florida this time around. I figure that some areas are completely destroyed, there's nothing to go back to, and the population does pick up in AZ this time of year anyway.
PhillyFan45
09-15-17, 15:25
Yea but would I get killed there. ? LOL.Depends on your Spanish. Basically there is no such animal as a pay by the hour resort.
Bareback Guy
09-15-17, 20:46
So Motel 6 is in the news for sharing their guest lists with ICE. I'm wondering, what would stop them or any other hotel / motel from sharing info with other law enforcement agencies? BTW the Motel 6 properties in question are I-17/ Indian School and 51st Ave / McDowell.
So Motel 6 is in the news for sharing their guest lists with ICE. I'm wondering, what would stop them or any other hotel / motel from sharing info with other law enforcement agencies? BTW the Motel 6 properties in question are I-17/ Indian School and 51st Ave / McDowell.EVERY motel 6 that I have been to in the last 12 plus years has a sign at every location that says that they share their guest log with law enforcement, absolutely nothing new. I have also been to numerous other motels that have signs that say that they share their guest log and info with law enforcement.
Found this 22 YO on SA. Took a few days to make schedules sync.
Picked her up near 37th Av and Camelback for outcall to my abode.
About 5'7', nice and tight (no kids). Decent BJ and reverse CG for a bill.
Can share with seniors who post quality- NO newbies please.
JAMESJ.
Bareback Guy
09-29-17, 00:15
Has anyone ever used those phone chats to meet women? Just wondering if they're still active and if anyone has had any luck with them lately. In the past I had success with lines like Quest and Live Links.
SuperBad69
09-29-17, 00:34
Has anyone ever used those phone chats to meet women? Just wondering if they're still active and if anyone has had any luck with them lately. In the past I had success with lines like Quest and Live Links.I used to use them yeeeeears ago. Like 20 years ago. And I had some great times from them. Mostly just regular girls, not pros. I did meet a couple of pros, or girls that weren't pros, but needed cash and had fun. I worked someplace back then with lots of phone lines, so I was able to use them to get free trail runs over and over. I tried one about 8 years ago, and there were some pros on there looking for work, but I didn't meet any.
Found this 22 YO on SA. Took a few days to make schedules sync.
Picked her up near 37th Av and Camelback for outcall to my abode.
About 5'7', nice and tight (no kids). Decent BJ and reverse CG for a bill.
Can share with seniors who post quality- NO newbies please.
JAMESJ.I've tried out SA but I thought their membership fee was ridiculous so I could message anyone. Are you guy actually paying the fee?
What would you say your success rate on SA vs Craigslist is? Are the girls on there open to first date hookups? Or are they just stringing guys along with no intention of doing the deed?
Thanks!
Found this 22 YO on SA. Took a few days to make schedules sync.
Picked her up near 37th Av and Camelback for outcall to my abode.
About 5'7', nice and tight (no kids). Decent BJ and reverse CG for a bill.
Can share with seniors who post quality- NO newbies please.
JAMESJ.
I've tried out SA but I thought their membership fee was ridiculous so I could message anyone. Are you guy actually paying the fee?I signup for a month, pay the $80 then cancel it before they charge me again. Plenty of time to get numbers of anyone you're interested in.
What would you say your success rate on SA vs Craigslist is? Are the girls on there open to first date hookups? Or are they just stringing guys along with no intention of doing the deed?
Thanks!I've had better luck on SA and WYP than on craigslist. Craigslist Catfishes are abundant it seems. Hard to get one and then sifting through the bots is time consuming.
Some of the girls are up for first date hookups. The profiles normally point this out. I've never been strung along as I will never do a "monthly or weekly" allowance. Do a pay per date. When talking ask what kind of arrangements they are looking for. This is the way to flush it out, just let them know you want someone "you connect with" but physical relationship is your main focus. Or you can be blunt, try to read the situation. About half of the girls I've met are very upfront with everything, the other half are in denial about what's going on LOL.
I've had a few that are looking for "online" relationships, obviously avoid this scam. Like normal, don't send any money before hand to these girls.
The thing is, some of these women think WE are the desperate ones. These are the ones to avoid, the others know it's the other way around. If anyone gives me attitude or strong pushback from things like sending pictures or going into detail on a date I quit talking to them.
PhillyFan45
09-29-17, 12:43
I've tried out SA but I thought their membership fee was ridiculous so I could message anyone. Are you guy actually paying the fee?Did when I first used it long ago. Not since. Some real, some want $400 per meet with zero commitment to put out.
BoombBoomMai
09-29-17, 13:28
Did when I first used it long ago. Not since. Some real, some want $400 per meet with zero commitment to put out.Tried out an app called Pure. The concept seems interesting. You post an ad for an hour. You can like the people in your area and if they like you back, you can message them. The catch is, all this needs to happen in 1 hour. The ad autodestructs in an hour.
Tried my luck but extremely low number of users in phoenix. So unsubscribed in 3 days!
What would you say your success rate on SA vs Craigslist is? Are the girls on there open to first date hookups? Or are they just stringing guys along with no intention of doing the deed?
Thanks!This may seem a bit rambling, but please hang in there.
About 75% on SA or fake / scammer adds.
Seeking arrangements -Easy to spot: The description in profile does NOT match pictures (stolen?
They claim to be NATIVE AMERICAN instead of white (really?
Claim to have a MASTERS or Doctorate Degree (yeah right!
Have links to phone number or website / email in profile.
Grammer / use of English is horrific.
Yes, I do pay the SA fee-Pussy is not free.
If they ask to send money, to verify if I'm real, I play their game (retired -so what the hell?
Then I text them a PICTURE of Ben, Grant and some of their friends.
They go ballistic in next message. To end communications I lastly send a DICK picture. This is the ultimate insult to a foreign scammer, which is most like a male!(LOL).
Once we agree to meet, either a pre determined amount is agree-I do not press the issue if money is NOT brought up by them.
Mostly pick them up and bring them to my abode. (Like to be in control of the situation / environment).
If they do NOT match posted pic, do NOT let them in Vehicle.
If we can NOT come to terms, they are free to WALK back. Live in west valley (never had one refuse my offer of 100-150) So success rate of 100%.
In person they can tell I'm not LE, are more open as I tend to be a good ole boy type.
It does take time to weed out the BS.
WYP: never offer more then 50 (due to cost of opening date / communications) but explain I "may" be more generous once we meet.
IF we meet and cannot come to a "mutual " agreement, I walk with 0 dollars to them (WTF, are going to sue me? LOL).
Only had that happen once.
To low ball them, I ALWAYS tell them if they are good on 1st encounter, would gladly increase donation next time. Since I like variety, tend to never tap one more then twice.
The gals ALL have GPS. I am happy to settle for the 7-8 scale versus the 9 or 10's. Performance is just as important as looks!
Would much ratter hit two 8's then one 10 for same amount expended.
Be diligent negotiating. We have the cash, so therefore inlays the power.
JAMESJ.
RollingInMy64
09-29-17, 14:45
What do you guys use to contact providers? Do you have a hobby phone? Google voice number? Other internet phone number?
I like to keep my hobby life discreet and completely separated from my real life, but lately a lot of providers have been asking me to call them from real phone. I did that once and then days later the provider texted me offering a special. Not going to make that mistake again. I'd like to get another number but not sure what's the best route. Carrying a second phone seems a little suspicious.
What do you guys do to keep your anonymity safe?
I've tried out SA but I thought their membership fee was ridiculous so I could message anyone. Are you guy actually paying the fee?I paid monthly fee's for 3 months and met two decent gals that offered the full package for around 200. It's more of a waiting game and you could find some gems.
Bareback Guy
09-30-17, 01:21
What do you guys use to contact providers? Do you have a hobby phone? Google voice number? Other internet phone number?
I like to keep my hobby life discreet and completely separated from my real life, but lately a lot of providers have been asking me to call them from real phone. I did that once and then days later the provider texted me offering a special. Not going to make that mistake again. I'd like to get another number but not sure what's the best route. Carrying a second phone seems a little suspicious.
What do you guys do to keep your anonymity safe?I have a Google Voice account. Also have a "burner" prepaid Android cell phone. I have Kik, and use Gmail and Yahoo. So I use all the above for working girls and girls I just want to hookup with short term.
Avoid Midwesternangel on SA / WYP. She is anything but an angel, the meaness comes out once she starts drinking.
What do you guys use to contact providers? Do you have a hobby phone? Google voice number? Other internet phone number?
I like to keep my hobby life discreet and completely separated from my real life, but lately a lot of providers have been asking me to call them from real phone. I did that once and then days later the provider texted me offering a special. Not going to make that mistake again. I'd like to get another number but not sure what's the best route. Carrying a second phone seems a little suspicious.
What do you guys do to keep your anonymity safe?Google voice phone # and then forward it to main line or ghost email address to avoid drama.
I would love to hear your story. Either on here or with a PM.
Avoid Midwesternangel on SA / WYP. She is anything but an angel, the meaness comes out once she starts drinking.
HappyHunter79
10-01-17, 22:46
Saw the posts about phone. I've used a google voice number for a long time and works great. 1 thing though, auto setting scare girls away. Like when an incoming call is announces google voice. I don't know if I still have it set the best but be sure to get rid of that.
Also, does anyone have tips for the best way to avoid the smell with the stronger SW? I use plenty of different strong soaps and shampoos even a lotion afterward. However always paranoid with some girls who are extremely strong and hard to get rid of the smell. A friend said he used lotion on his hands before and it helped a ton, as if it keeps the juices from penetrating the skin.
Any other tips for before or after play dates guys?
Saw the posts about phone. I've used a google voice number for a long time and works great. 1 thing though, auto setting scare girls away. Like when an incoming call is announces google voice. I don't know if I still have it set the best but be sure to get rid of that.
Also, does anyone have tips for the best way to avoid the smell with the stronger SW? I use plenty of different strong soaps and shampoos even a lotion afterward. However always paranoid with some girls who are extremely strong and hard to get rid of the smell. A friend said he used lotion on his hands before and it helped a ton, as if it keeps the juices from penetrating the skin.
Any other tips for before or after play dates guys?About a year ago, was playing with the providers cooter at an in call hotel near Chandler.
Once I got a whiff of the oder, about lost it!
Tried several kinds of soap when I got home, nothing could get the stench off my right hand.
Considered amputating it!
Was going out to eat wings with friends later. Could not bear the thought of my hand near my mouth.
Finally, out of desperation, soaked it with GLADE air freshener!
Washed it a few more times, smell gone!
JAMESJ.
Just stick to the BJ.
Saw the posts about phone. I've used a google voice number for a long time and works great. 1 thing though, auto setting scare girls away. Like when an incoming call is announces google voice. I don't know if I still have it set the best but be sure to get rid of that.
Also, does anyone have tips for the best way to avoid the smell with the stronger SW? I use plenty of different strong soaps and shampoos even a lotion afterward. However always paranoid with some girls who are extremely strong and hard to get rid of the smell. A friend said he used lotion on his hands before and it helped a ton, as if it keeps the juices from penetrating the skin.
Any other tips for before or after play dates guys?
Saw the posts about phone. I've used a google voice number for a long time and works great. How does Google Voice work with texting? I'm interested in setting it up but I communicate through text most of the time and would prefer to not give out my actual phone number.
How does Google Voice work with texting? I'm interested in setting it up but I communicate through text most of the time and would prefer to not give out my actual phone number.You can install the google hangouts app which will then text and receive from a google number.
They used to make a 2% coal tar soap but it could be discontinued. Good for psoriasis and also tenacious residues.
Complete waste of time and credits to open date.
List address of Scottsdale, but think she lives in north Tempe.
Had numerous meetings and locations scheduled, but she could NOT maintain communications.
Never did leave my abode to meet her, as she would go silent a few hours prior.
Then would contact later, wanting to meet in 15 minutes.
Think she is a crack w*o*e, needing her next fix.
Be safe and the hunt continues.
JAMESJ.
About a year ago, was playing with the providers cooter at an in call hotel near Chandler.
Once I got a whiff of the oder, about lost it!
Tried several kinds of soap when I got home, nothing could get the stench off my right hand.
Considered amputating it!
Was going out to eat wings with friends later. Could not bear the thought of my hand near my mouth.
Finally, out of desperation, soaked it with GLADE air freshener!
Washed it a few more times, smell gone!
JAMESJ.From hints from heloise. Try lemon juice. Seriously.
Hand Banana
10-02-17, 22:04
From hints from heloise. Try lemon juice. Seriously.I agree with this advice 100000%. I had a similar issue years ago when visiting Tijuana. Taco stand on the corner had a pile of limes free with a taco. Turns out it is quite refreshing when used to remove the funk from your junk.
HB.
This may seem a bit rambling, but please hang in there.
About 75% on SA or fake / scammer adds.
Seeking arrangements -Easy to spot: The description in profile does NOT match pictures (stolen?
They claim to be NATIVE AMERICAN instead of white (really?
Claim to have a MASTERS or Doctorate Degree (yeah right!
Have links to phone number or website / email in profile.
Grammer / use of English is horrific.
Yes, I do pay the SA fee-Pussy is not free.
If they ask to send money, to verify if I'm real, I play their game (retired -so what the hell?
Then I text them a PICTURE of Ben, Grant and some of their friends.
They go ballistic in next message. To end communications I lastly send a DICK picture. This is the ultimate insult to a foreign scammer, which is most like a male!(LOL).
Once we agree to meet, either a pre determined amount is agree-I do not press the issue if money is NOT brought up by them.
Mostly pick them up and bring them to my abode. (Like to be in control of the situation / environment).
If they do NOT match posted pic, do NOT let them in Vehicle.
If we can NOT come to terms, they are free to WALK back. Live in west valley (never had one refuse my offer of 100-150) So success rate of 100%.
In person they can tell I'm not LE, are more open as I tend to be a good ole boy type.
It does take time to weed out the BS.
WYP: never offer more then 50 (due to cost of opening date / communications) but explain I "may" be more generous once we meet.
IF we meet and cannot come to a "mutual " agreement, I walk with 0 dollars to them (WTF, are going to sue me? LOL).
Only had that happen once.
To low ball them, I ALWAYS tell them if they are good on 1st encounter, would gladly increase donation next time. Since I like variety, tend to never tap one more then twice.
The gals ALL have GPS. I am happy to settle for the 7-8 scale versus the 9 or 10's. Performance is just as important as looks!
Would much ratter hit two 8's then one 10 for same amount expended.
Be diligent negotiating. We have the cash, so therefore inlays the power.
JAMESJ.Seems to me James that all these women or ASU girls want $100. When $50 accepted do not get much of a reply. Did get one to reply who was flaky like replying almost an hour later. She must have been coming off her high. Followed your advice to no luck maybe since going for the 9's. And not into the sisters. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Have you or anyone tried putting an email into your profile to avoid the opening fee?
FanOfBewbs
10-05-17, 21:21
Sorry if its a tad off topic but lately I have been really thinking about how I could take a trip to Bangkok, Thailand and visit one of the red light areas around there. Has anyone on here actually gone? And if so what was it like. TIA.
Sorry if its a tad off topic but lately I have been really thinking about how I could take a trip to Bangkok, Thailand and visit one of the red light areas around there. Has anyone on here actually gone? And if so what was it like. TIA.+1.
Would like info on cheap rooms or hostels and also getting from airport to red light district.
Sorry if its a tad off topic but lately I have been really thinking about how I could take a trip to Bangkok, Thailand and visit one of the red light areas around there. Has anyone on here actually gone? And if so what was it like. TIA.Plenty of real info on the web about this. Be very careful not to get into under aged gals there it is a serious issue that could cost you dearly. I for one have never leaned that way and find the thought unappealing. In today's world I'm not sure if I'd really want to venture overseas. Hell you can't even go to a damn C. W. Concert anymore.
Higgs Boson
10-06-17, 00:52
Sorry if its a tad off topic but lately I have been really thinking about how I could take a trip to Bangkok, Thailand and visit one of the red light areas around there. Has anyone on here actually gone? And if so what was it like. TIA.The best source for you to start reading is the sister forum:
Internationalsexguide.info
Make sure you do a thorough RTFF.
Higgs.
Have you or anyone tried putting an email into your profile to avoid the opening feeI think they have a pretty good profile monitoring system set up. I modified mine to just say something like "flowers for fun" and they immediately yanked it saying it violated their terms. Such high morals they have, for God's sake it's CALLED "What's your price".
Good luck! Be safe.
Smokeey.
Bareback Guy
10-07-17, 03:00
Just wondering if any of you ever saw this woman caught up in this story. Saw this referenced on the local channels.
http://www.abc15.com/news/region-northeast-valley/paradise-valley/woman-s-massage-parlor-was-actually-a-house-of-prostitution-in-north-phoenix
AzskyDiver
10-07-17, 04:08
Just wondering if any of you ever saw this woman caught up in this story. Saw this referenced on the local channels.
http://www.abc15.com/news/region-northeast-valley/paradise-valley/woman-s-massage-parlor-was-actually-a-house-of-prostitution-in-north-phoenixSo, some of Phoenix's finest spent five months and God only knows how many of our tax dollars "investigating" a massage parlor. LOL I knew I should have been a cop.
AZMusicMan
10-08-17, 17:52
So, some of Phoenix's finest spent five months and God only knows how many of our tax dollars "investigating" a massage parlor. LOL I knew I should have been a cop.Yeah, don't you love how they had to keep going back "on multiple occasions"? Guess they had to be sure their eyes weren't deceiving them the first couple times. Smh.
Yeah, don't you love how they had to keep going back "on multiple occasions"? Guess they had to be sure their eyes weren't deceiving them the first couple times. Smh.I always wonder what triggers an investigation. Is it a lack of paying taxes?
Area?
Complaints?
Seems like there could be hundreds of busts (pun intended) going on in the valley bases on ads and forums.
I always wonder what triggers an investigation. Is it a lack of paying taxes?
Area?
Complaints?
Seems like there could be hundreds of busts (pun intended) going on in the valley bases on ads and forums.I bet it's some neighbor or some unhappy customer.
RollingInMy64
10-09-17, 17:41
Anyone else out there noticing that Craigslist is cracking down harder on posts in the Casual Encounters section? Stuff that I used to be able to slip by is getting red flagged like crazy. Also, quality is way down. I do get a lot of responses when a post does get thru but the girls that respond aren't exactly the fittest bunch.
Bareback Guy
10-10-17, 23:54
Anyone else out there noticing that Craigslist is cracking down harder on posts in the Casual Encounters section? Stuff that I used to be able to slip by is getting red flagged like crazy. Also, quality is way down. I do get a lot of responses when a post does get thru but the girls that respond aren't exactly the fittest bunch.I think a lot of stuff on CL is just getting flagged more. I have also noticed that "working girls" seem to be slipping in ads more in the w4 m section and the Casual Encounters w4 m.
Anyone else out there noticing that Craigslist is cracking down harder on posts in the Casual Encounters section? Stuff that I used to be able to slip by is getting red flagged like crazy. Also, quality is way down. I do get a lot of responses when a post does get thru but the girls that respond aren't exactly the fittest bunch.I don't think C. L. Is cracking down. I think it's the competition. And worse. I think it's the fake ads that are killing off the real ones.
Desert Rat
10-11-17, 18:36
Just wondering if any of you ever saw this woman caught up in this story. Saw this referenced on the local channels.
http://www.abc15.com/news/region-northeast-valley/paradise-valley/woman-s-massage-parlor-was-actually-a-house-of-prostitution-in-north-phoenixI saw the lady once. She operated out of a strip mall. The lady did not do FS but only a HJ. She is blond with big tits. I thought she was way overpriced at $160 for a lame HJ and "body rub. " I am sorry she got busted.
XXCeCeLoveXX is a complete waste of time.
30 YO Red head, 5'8" average to curvy. Has 4 kids (youngest 4 months- sure there is baby damage) 7 - 8 on the scale.
Met her for a drink a few weeks ago near Camelback & 16th street at a dive bar.
Talked a good game, but had to get home to kids (no money exchanged) Did do a bit of make out in rear parking lot.
Due to schedules. , agreed to a few weeks later (aunt flow was also visiting).
Originally said she gets 500 allowance, but would do 300. Negotiated her down to 150.
Day before she is to come to my abode, we text a few times (great communicator BTW).
When I remind her, we agreed to 150 as a 1st time "discount", said she NEVER does ANYTHING for less the 3 Bens.
Wished her well. She is a 100-200 gal, NOT a penny more!
On line constantly looking for that one STUPID fish to hook.
AVOID.
JAMESJ.
Don't bother with Maddiexoxo1002 or Carly_sunshine. ASU wenches. They just want $100 for the date and then will ghost afterwards not replying to messages. Trying to follow Jamesj' advice but all these wenches turn down $50 and want the 100. Only Zyleuh accepted that but flaked out on the arrangement when tried to meet that night.
BumpinUglies
10-13-17, 18:54
XXCeCeLoveXX is a complete waste of time.
30 YO Red head, 5'8" average to curvy. Has 4 kids (youngest 4 months- sure there is baby damage) 7 - 8 on the scale.
Met her for a drink a few weeks ago near Camelback & 16th street at a dive bar.
Talked a good game, but had to get home to kids (no money exchanged) Did do a bit of make out in rear parking lot.
Due to schedules. , agreed to a few weeks later (aunt flow was also visiting).
Originally said she gets 500 allowance, but would do 300. Negotiated her down to 150.
Day before she is to come to my abode, we text a few times (great communicator BTW).
When I remind her, we agreed to 150 as a 1st time "discount", said she NEVER does ANYTHING for less the 3 Bens.
Wished her well. She is a 100-200 gal, NOT a penny more!
On line constantly looking for that one STUPID fish to hook.
AVOID.
JAMESJ.Damn James you get around. Ran across XXCeCeLoveXX also and pulled the Whole 500 to start, won't do anything for less than 300 after telling her to F Off and never oon a first date as I'm a prude haha. Offered 200 and she turned it down so whatever.
She will find a sucker I'm sure.
2nd time I've had this ho at my abode.
She lives most of the time in the San Fran. Ca. Area (mother is there) Visits PHX about every 2 months.
Long wavy black hair, about 5'3" , thin, tight, nice perky B's. Is a fucking FREAK in the sheets!
She took a shower at my place before the fun (reeked of smoke, she does not, but gal she stays with smokes like a chimney).
BBBJ, dine at why -landing strip (she loves that) FS (she is NOT a safety gal-use your own judgement / precaution).
Met her at 35th Av and Dunlap, dropped her at 23rd / Dunlap.
Portrait of Ben and she was happy. Got herself off 3 times during session. NO faking the way she twitched, moaned and screamed!
She's leaving PHX Monday.
Trusted seniors can PM for contact.
Will see again on her next visit to the valley.
JAMESJ.
Well I am trolling on SA since I am tired of backpage, typically recently I have just been meeting the 2 well reviewed AMP's in Mesa / Tempe since they seem to make me happier than other meetings.
Anyone have an good experiences with some SA girls. Please send me a PM with info.
I am offering $200 per meeting and getting some interest, but have not meet anyone yet. Hoping for some first meetings this week. I will report back with findings if they are OK with spreading the word for them.
Has just been frustrating, I feel like a used car salesman. Also sometimes when I seem to come to an arrangement I do hear back again.
OK. Rant off.
Stay safe everyone.
Fordsonly.
2nd time I've had this ho at my abode.
She lives most of the time in the San Fran. Ca. Area (mother is there) Visits PHX about every 2 months.
Long wavy black hair, about 5'3" , thin, tight, nice perky B's. Is a fucking FREAK in the sheets!
She took a shower at my place before the fun (reeked of smoke, she does not, but gal she stays with smokes like a chimney).
BBBJ, dine at why -landing strip (she loves that) FS (she is NOT a safety gal-use your own judgement / precaution).
Met her at 35th Av and Dunlap, dropped her at 23rd / Dunlap.
Portrait of Ben and she was happy. Got herself off 3 times during session. NO faking the way she twitched, moaned and screamed!
She's leaving PHX Monday.
Trusted seniors can PM for contact.
Will see again on her next visit to the valley.
JAMESJ.Is Sidney her user name or does she have another one? Can't find her profile. You are the man James!
Here's another one to avoid "v**alydia1515 on WYP. Claimed she is divorced raising 2 kids, going to school and has to get a baby sitter, has been on bad dates saying that is why she is on WYP, wants to take things slow. FB'ed her name, she has 2 kids, and she is married! . to another woman. Plus a recent arrest. Thankfully just figured this out before meeting her. Just did not make sense with over 1000 FB friends that she had no dating life. Back to the drawing board.
Is Sidney her user name or does she have another one? Can't find her profile. You are the man James!
Here's another one to avoid "v**alydia1515 on WYP. Claimed she is divorced raising 2 kids, going to school and has to get a baby sitter, has been on bad dates saying that is why she is on WYP, wants to take things slow. FB'ed her name, she has 2 kids, and she is married! . to another woman. Plus a recent arrest. Thankfully just figured this out before meeting her. Just did not make sense with over 1000 FB friends that she had no dating life. Back to the drawing board.Sindy, That's her spelling.
Actually she is from (SA) Seeking Arrangements.
Met her back in early July an cannot remember the profile name she used.
(she contacted me via text last week saying she was in town, wanting to hook up).
She moves her profile from PHX to San Fran, depending on where she is at.
She also takes it down on a regular basis.
Text me this AM while on her way to airport, said she will be back in a month.
If her add pops up again, will definitely get her profile name and pass it on thru the open forum.
Just going to mention again, she is fucking wild in bed!
JAMESJ.
The episode starts and they show the woman who's unknowingly about to have an intervention and for whatever reason she looked familiar. A few minutes in and bam she's from Phoenix.
A few minutes later and bam pics, pics I've seen in her ads.
Man oh man. If you watch that show maybe you saw it, maybe not.
After watching it I wonder if she is ok because based on that episode she is not.
Sad.
SuperBad69
10-17-17, 23:04
The episode starts and they show the woman who's unknowingly about to have an intervention and for whatever reason she looked familiar. A few minutes in and bam she's from Phoenix.
A few minutes later and bam pics, pics I've seen in her ads.
Man oh man. If you watch that show maybe you saw it, maybe not.
After watching it I wonder if she is ok because based on that episode she is not.
Sad.I watched it just to see who you are talking about. I have never met her but I do recognize her. I watched the first couple of minutes only, but you can tell she is going thru a hard time. Hopefully she is ok.
I watched it just to see who you are talking about. I have never met her but I do recognize her. I watched the first couple of minutes only, but you can tell she is going thru a hard time. Hopefully she is ok.Yea man. I was sitting here watching it knowing I had seen her before.
Damn James you get around. Ran across XXCeCeLoveXX also and pulled the Whole 500 to start, won't do anything for less than 300 after telling her to F Off and never oon a first date as I'm a prude haha. Offered 200 and she turned it down so whatever.
She will find a sucker I'm sure.Well I am sure that Caitlin's boyfriend is also her handler, so that in itself is an issue. Not worth what she thinks she is.
KarmaBee. Don't waste your time. Seems to always be online, but hard to get a response from. I agreed to what she was asking for on a per meet basis (sadly I can't do the allowance) and tried to see her a few times over the past couple weeks. Either her account would be deactivated right before we were meeting or I pretty much got cancelled on.
Anyway have fun and stay safe.
Well we can add _x0 xoLo on SA as a total waste of time. Appointment made, we were txting that morning and then right around or meeting time. Crickets.
Once I find something that actually works on SA I will be sure to report.
We all know how difficult it is to meet someone via CraigsList. Some of us have had success others not so much. Just for fun I created a M4 W ad that was totally nothing, and so far in about 2 hours have received 30 responses, some with pictures. The ad says:
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We all know how difficult it is to meet someone via CraigsList. Some of us have had success others not so much. Just for fun I created a M4 W ad that was totally nothing, and so far in about 2 hours have received 30 responses, some with pictures. The ad says:
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We all know how difficult it is to meet someone via CraigsList. Some of us have had success others not so much. Just for fun I created a M4 W ad that was totally nothing, and so far in about 2 hours have received 30 responses, some with pictures. The ad says:
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Your post actually got me thinking so I made a CL ad. I actually got real responses from 4 women so far.I had one all night. From clairecatmix. Looks like there could be potential. Will report if it works out.
I had one all night. From clairecatmix. Looks like there could be potential. Will report if it works out.Didn't get anything from her. Good luck!
Just found out the company I have been contracting for nearly 10 years decided everyone has to do a drug test. I am not a big pothead but do indulge in a hit two, 3-5 times a week on a THC Vape Pen before bed helps me sleep better than any pill. Anybody have any experience with this and know if these DETOX solutions work. Been reading about something called Toxin Rid. You can PM me if you want, any help appreciated.
Just found out the company I have been contracting for nearly 10 years decided everyone has to do a drug test. I am not a big pothead but do indulge in a hit two, 3-5 times a week on a THC Vape Pen before bed helps me sleep better than any pill. Anybody have any experience with this and know if these DETOX solutions work. Been reading about something called Toxin Rid. You can PM me if you want, any help appreciated.I've used the detox drinks before. They taste like shit, but they work.
It's been awhile so I don't recall the brand.
Good luck.
Just found out the company I have been contracting for nearly 10 years decided everyone has to do a drug test. I am not a big pothead but do indulge in a hit two, 3-5 times a week on a THC Vape Pen before bed helps me sleep better than any pill. Anybody have any experience with this and know if these DETOX solutions work. Been reading about something called Toxin Rid. You can PM me if you want, any help appreciated.Could you get a medical card before the test? That might be your ticket in case they do find some THC in your system. I know it took me a good 60 days to piss clean when I was looking for a new job. I didn't try any detox, just drank water and worked out.
Good luck to you, sucks they won't just fucking legalize it already.
Member #6524
11-02-17, 13:16
Just found out the company I have been contracting for nearly 10 years decided everyone has to do a drug test. I am not a big pothead but do indulge in a hit two, 3-5 times a week on a THC Vape Pen before bed helps me sleep better than any pill. Anybody have any experience with this and know if these DETOX solutions work. Been reading about something called Toxin Rid. You can PM me if you want, any help appreciated.I actually was talking to a friend of mine recently about this. He said the best way is to buy urine although I didn't ask where. It comes in a pouch with a tube. When you're ready to go to the test you heat it up, strap it under your pants and use the tube to pee in the cup like you are peeing. Works every time he said.
I actually was talking to a friend of mine recently about this. He said the best way is to buy urine although I didn't ask where. It comes in a pouch with a tube. When you're ready to go to the test you heat it up, strap it under your pants and use the tube to pee in the cup like you are peeing. Works every time he said.Because the officials giving the test haven't thought about this? Please. What if they take a hair sample instead. Plus, if he's caught with a bag of urine, he'll be instantly fired and probably arrested. I'm hoping you were being sarcastic.
Anyway, the best bet are the detox drinks, water, and sweating it out. Pray they don't take a hair sample since THC stays there longer than your body.
Just found out the company I have been contracting for nearly 10 years decided everyone has to do a drug test. I am not a big pothead but do indulge in a hit two, 3-5 times a week on a THC Vape Pen before bed helps me sleep better than any pill. Anybody have any experience with this and know if these DETOX solutions work. Been reading about something called Toxin Rid. You can PM me if you want, any help appreciated.We will all test positive for THC in our systems if we eat fruits or vegetables since it is in all plant life. There is a cut off for all THC tests because of this. I found this out once when taking a UA. I had smoked heavily less than a week before and was upfront with the tech. He told me that unless I was smoking a lot multiple times a week for a few weeks that I would be fine.
Member #6524
11-03-17, 10:48
My friend actually did this and knows people who have and it works. Not being sarcastic, just giving options. He's fired anyway if they catch THC in his system. Obviously there's risk regardless.
Because the officials giving the test haven't thought about this? Please. What if they take a hair sample instead. Plus, if he's caught with a bag of urine, he'll be instantly fired and probably arrested. I'm hoping you were being sarcastic.
Anyway, the best bet are the detox drinks, water, and sweating it out. Pray they don't take a hair sample since THC stays there longer than your body.
If car dates is your thing, then she is your girl. Just not mine. But be careful, she will later try to scam you asking for rent money. Met up with her for dinner as she accepted $50 on WYP, does not have a car, she walked to the restaurant. Didn't want to go back to my place saying she is living with family and needs to be home early. Found a place and overpaid $ total. Then was out of town and she messaged me asking to send $$ to pay the rent since it is owned and she gets paid the following week. Once back here, arranged to take her home but she then canceled on meeting up.
If car dates is your thing, then she is your girl. Just not mine. Met up for dinner the other week, turns out she walked there due to not having a car. Offered her 50 to meet on WYP. Said she had to be home early since living with family, would not go back to my place. Found a spot and overpaid $ total. Then when was out of town the next week, she messaged on WYP that she need $$ to pay the rent since did not get paid at work til the next week. Obviously did not fall for that. Arranged to meet her when once back to bring her home but she canceled and have not heard back from her since. She only will message on WYP, gave me a number but never responds to it so must be fake.
Member #5697
11-03-17, 23:01
Is Sidney her user name or does she have another one? Can't find her profile. You are the man James!
Here's another one to avoid "v**alydia1515 on WYP. Claimed she is divorced raising 2 kids, going to school and has to get a baby sitter, has been on bad dates saying that is why she is on WYP, wants to take things slow. FB'ed her name, she has 2 kids, and she is married! . to another woman. Plus a recent arrest. Thankfully just figured this out before meeting her. Just did not make sense with over 1000 FB friends that she had no dating life. Back to the drawing board.What is WYP?
What is WYP?It's a site where you or a women can bid on dates to meet up. Have to pay them, quite a few of them are escorts or just looking for a quick dollar and the illusion of sex unfortunately. It's free for women, we have to buy credits to unlock conversations. 10% of the bid. Most of them want $100. You can figure out the escorts by reading between the lines or they will admit in their profile personal issues.
Caipirinha
11-04-17, 00:28
What is WYP?What's your price?
What is WYP?What's Your Price. Website where you can bid on dates.
Real name is Sara. She is a train wreck. Offered her $50 and met her at a restaurant near my place. First she tells me "I sweat a lot due to a medical condition, then I almost went to jail today, the apt manager called the police since I was yelling in the parking lot, I was handcuffed, did not go to jail but given a court date, then I dated a guy who was very fat from this site, we never had sex, . Next I dated this guy for 5 years who made me convert to Islam, he is from Saudi Arabia and is a sex fiend, made me go to swinger parties, I still have his number. " And on and on. Decided no way taking her to my place and know where I live. Tried to get her to allow me to come to her place, wanted to clean her place first and think about it. Texting her that night, she finally asked for more money, offered 50. No way going to pay her more. Did not hear back til the next am stating her phone died and she missed out. Whatever.
Lesson: If only 1 picture and states a few extra pounds, unemployed. AVOID. She said her picture is old, has multiple profiles due to losing passwords. Have to do a better job of screening.
Real name is Sara. She is a train wreck. Offered her $50 and met her at a restaurant near my place. First she tells me "I sweat a lot due to a medical condition, then I almost went to jail today, the apt manager called the police since I was yelling in the parking lot, I was handcuffed, did not go to jail but given a court date, then I dated a guy who was very fat from this site, we never had sex. Next I dated this guy for 5 years who made me convert to Islam, he is from Saudi Arabia and is a sex fiend, made me go to swinger parties, I still have his number. " And on and on. Decided no way taking her to my place and know where I live. Tried to get her to allow me to come to her place, she wanted to clean her place first and think about it. Texting her that night, she finally asked for more money, offered 50. No way going to pay her more. Did not hear back til the next am stating her phone died and she missed out. Whatever.
Lesson: If only 1 picture and states a few extra pounds, unemployed. AVOID. She said her picture is old, has multiple profiles due to losing passwords. Have to do a better job of screening.
Been using WYP for about the last year. Have had a few misses, a WTF, one very cool girl, and a home run. The misses are not worth talking about, so lets skip to WTF. Anyone asks you to pick them near 27 ave and Thomas. Run. Lets just say it went south from there fast, and that date was over in 45 minutes with me dropping off that train wreck and getting out of Dodge.
Met Ashley there. Real name. Very cool girl, we just get along. No real vibe to anything more than friends, but good girl none the less.
Home run goes by Comrades. Very pretty ebony sweethart. Some stretch marks from having a kid, nice face though. She prefers mutually bennifical arrangement, and she is GFE. Covers requires for honey. She is fun to be around, and even more fun to play around. We have known another for about a year, and I hope to keep this going for longer still.
ILuvForeplay
11-05-17, 12:49
Hello gents,
I'll be in town next week staying at a hotel near the airport and was wondering if I could get a few good recommendations. I am from Richmond land of the. 2 BBBJCIMWS and. 4 to. 6 FS and we are awash in spinners. I used to avoid BBWs but have been with a few that have curves and although not my preference they have changed my view. I prefer them between spinner and BBW, guess you call that thick now a days.
Any recommendations is greatly appreciated and I will return the favor if ya'll come to the Common Wealth of Virginia.
Be smart stay safe.
Looking for advice for what works on WYP from others which is why I have been posting my experience. Tried James advice of offering $50 to pay to open up messaging and to meet but few takers and if they do, how can I say this, they are sketchy / train wrecks or have GPS wanting $$$ later to hook up. Man, this is getting expense with the dinner dates.
Questions:
Do you skip the whole dinner thing and discuss hooking up instead in WYP messages? Some of these women do not want to make themselves appear as wh*res which is why I thought OK meet for dinner, get you comfort with me but tired of this game. This is a speciality of the ASU girls, take the money and run. Never hear back. Also another funny game that 3 out of 6 have done, they say having car / tire problems and need a ride back home after taking Uber to meet. Of course no action that night. Just do not think this is a co-incidence like letting them off the hook for responsibility of their actions but then nothing happens.
What amount of money seems to get positive responses for first time meeting. Seems to be $100 but shelled this out twice for nothing. Fun at first to have dinner with an attractive woman.
How much have you offered with successful hook ups? I feel $ to $$ is reasonable. Anything over is not unless hot and in early 20's. We can pay this at the parlors or with escorts so why should I pay more is my attitude.
How much have you offered with successful hook ups? I feel $ to $$ is reasonable. Anything over is not unless hot and in early 20's. We can pay this at the parlors or with escorts so why should I pay more is my attitude.I have had quite a bit of success on WYP. I think the first thing you need to figure out though, is what exactly you are looking for.
In my mind, the girls on this site that are worth it, are not going to be found for $50 or $100. If I want an unenthusiastic fuck I'll go find an escort for $50. If I want a decent fuck from a 7/10 I'll look for an escort for $200. These girls value themselves higher than escorts, and most of the time, they should.
Just a few things about what I require from them, 1. Std tests, 2. Flirty or sexiness between meetups, 3. No condoms ever (see #1), And 4. Ability to completely submit OR dominate as my mood changes. Every girl I have found on here that I met up with more than once was more than willing to follow these requirements. I'm not looking for a "girlfriend" from them, I'm looking for someone who makes it seem like they want to fuck. Generally no limits on anything, except anal but I'm not a fan anyways.
For this, I have paid anywhere from $220-$500 for a meeting. There have been a few times one brought a friend and that was done without an additional charge!
Normally, if in their profile they drop hints about wanting nsa, I'll offer them $200 on the site. If they don't really push that nsa thing, I'll go for $100 and feel them out in chat.
Talking to them, normally within the first 3-4 messages I ask what sort of arrangements they are looking for. If they say something along the lines of, open to whatever, you can start dropping hints about what you really want. The ones that go into this big speech about wanting a sugar daddy never pay out. Or you can ask what's an ideal first date, whatever they answer, reply back with a "you coming to my house to relax and talk, I hate going out" or something like that. If they refuse to talk about it, they are looking for a cash and grab. The only times I have met in public, it was at a Starbucks for 15 minutes before headed to theirs or mine.
Also, my first date I normally will never suggest sex, I stick with the $200 for an (overpriced) blow job. I expect them nude, get to see how we interact, and get them to talk dirty. I see it as an investment. I've MET 12 girls over 3 years, (all given at least the BJ LOL) I have had 5 as "regulars". These have varied from multiple times a month to once every two months depending on a number of factors. Normally once I find one I like, I quit hunting for others. Every single experience I've had where we have met at least twice, has been better than the highest rated escorts. These are never one hour meet ups, these are, get here at 8 am and we fuck off and on until 6 pm.
The relationships I have with these girls are like, that ONE really really hot chick you were friends with (only because you knew each other since you were 5) in high school, except now you actually get to bang her.
MisterMagic
11-07-17, 23:40
I have had quite a bit of success on WYP. I think the first thing you need to figure out though, is what exactly you are looking for.
In my mind, the girls on this site that are worth it, are not going to be found for $50 or $100. If I want an unenthusiastic fuck I'll go find an escort for $50. If I want a decent fuck from a 7/10 I'll look for an escort for $200. These girls value themselves higher than escorts, and most of the time, they should.
Just a few things about what I require from them, 1. Std tests, 2. Flirty or sexiness between meetups, 3. No condoms ever (see #1), And 4. Ability to completely submit OR dominate as my mood changes. Every girl I have found on here that I met up with more than once was more than willing to follow these requirements. I'm not looking for a "girlfriend" from them, I'm looking for someone who makes it seem like they want to fuck. Generally no limits on anything, except anal but I'm not a fan anyways.
For this, I have paid anywhere from $220-$500 for a meeting. There have been a few times one brought a friend and that was done without an additional charge!
Normally, if in their profile they drop hints about wanting nsa, I'll offer them $200 on the site. If they don't really push that nsa thing, I'll go for $100 and feel them out in chat.
Talking to them, normally within the first 3-4 messages I ask what sort of arrangements they are looking for. If they say something along the lines of, open to whatever, you can start dropping hints about what you really want. The ones that go into this big speech about wanting a sugar daddy never pay out. Or you can ask what's an ideal first date, whatever they answer, reply back with a "you coming to my house to relax and talk, I hate going out" or something like that. If they refuse to talk about it, they are looking for a cash and grab. The only times I have met in public, it was at a Starbucks for 15 minutes before headed to theirs or mine.
Also, my first date I normally will never suggest sex, I stick with the $200 for an (overpriced) blow job. I expect them nude, get to see how we interact, and get them to talk dirty. I see it as an investment. I've MET 12 girls over 3 years, (all given at least the BJ LOL) I have had 5 as "regulars". These have varied from multiple times a month to once every two months depending on a number of factors. Normally once I find one I like, I quit hunting for others. Every single experience I've had where we have met at least twice, has been better than the highest rated escorts. These are never one hour meet ups, these are, get here at 8 am and we fuck off and on until 6 pm.
The relationships I have with these girls are like, that ONE really really hot chick you were friends with (only because you knew each other since you were 5) in high school, except now you actually get to bang her.I have to second this experience. I actually love WYP and have pretty much stopped hunting BP as a result. My success rate is basically 100%. Not saying that I succeed with every girl that I message, but if we meet in person then it's a sure thing EVERY TIME. I personally never offer more than 100 for a date. But the reality is the date offer doesn't really matter. I'm not paying a dime unless she's willing to offer more and show that she has skin in the game (no pun intended). After a few initial messages, I'll tell her that I'd like to take her to dinner or drinks, but I make it really clear that I don't pay anything on the first date for the same reason she probably won't agree to sex on the first date. I tell her that the first date is just to make sure that she isn't a serial first dater that just grabs the cash and runs. The second date is where I pay, and skies the limit. If she agrees to this (which surprisingly most do), then I know I'm golden. Of course, I STILL only pay $ per date but the point is getting her to feel like it's an ongoing regular thing. Pay her cell phone bill when she needs, buy her dinner, get her nails done. We're talking basic spoiling here that is way cheaper than what we normally pay for company. I may have somewhat of an advantage because I happen to be a bit younger than the average "sugar daddy" so it's easier for me to talk to them on their level. Either way, if you have the patience and are willing to risk the few wasted messages, which sucks because we have to pay to read messages I know. Then the end result is way better than any escort you'll ever meet. We're talking genuinely interest girls that will actually enjoy the experience, clean and healthy, no handlers or LEO drama. It's worth every cent of the investment to me.
MisterMagic
11-07-17, 23:45
I know this isn't for everyone and might not be your thing, but wasn't sure the best place to seek advice on this one. Do any of you have any experience with transgender girls? I'm talking extremely feminine, passable, literally cannot tell. I have a fetish I'd like to explore but am super afraid of meeting some guy in a dress that looks like my uncle or something.
Anyone know any ways to get free credits on WYP?
$50 is the minimum which seems like too much to pay if you only want to contact one or two of them. Also some of them are traceable through image searches or checking on google or facebook on terms in their profiles so that would save cash also.
But WYP should provide a free trial where you can contact them like the other sites used to.
I know this isn't for everyone and might not be your thing, but wasn't sure the best place to seek advice on this one. Do any of you have any experience with transgender girls? I'm talking extremely feminine, passable, literally cannot tell. I have a fetish I'd like to explore but am super afraid of meeting some guy in a dress that looks like my uncle or something.Take a look at TER, you will have to buy a VIP membership to read the reviews. Most are prefixed with TS.
Not my thing but the read is interesting to say the least.
ShawnGreen
11-09-17, 01:00
I'm in Mesa and looking to rent a room.
For my UTR. I'm also married so using a credit card isn't really an option. Does anyone know of a hotel in the area that will take cash or even I could use my prepaid card but don't want to have to make a deposit. Any advice is appreciated.
Anyone know any ways to get free credits on WYP?
$50 is the minimum which seems like too much to pay if you only want to contact one or two of them. Also some of them are traceable through image searches or checking on google or facebook on terms in their profiles so that would save cash also.
But WYP should provide a free trial where you can contact them like the other sites used to.Haven't found any yet traceable though Tineye. You are using something different? Only one found traceable on facebook was v*g*lydia. Set up a date with her til figured she was a lying about being divorced, been on too many bad dates, having to pay a baby sister, etc since traced through facebook she was married to another women and the deal breaker was she was charged with a felony and alluding to having to live around 35th Ave where the county jail is.
I have to second this experience. I actually love WYP and have pretty much stopped hunting BP as a result. My success rate is basically 100%. Not saying that I succeed with every girl that I message, but if we meet in person then it's a sure thing EVERY TIME. I personally never offer more than 100 for a date. But the reality is the date offer doesn't really matter. I'm not paying a dime unless she's willing to offer more and show that she has skin in the game (no pun intended). After a few initial messages, I'll tell her that I'd like to take her to dinner or drinks, but I make it really clear that I don't pay anything on the first date for the same reason she probably won't agree to sex on the first date. I tell her that the first date is just to make sure that she isn't a serial first dater that just grabs the cash and runs. The second date is where I pay, and skies the limit. If she agrees to this (which surprisingly most do), then I know I'm golden. Of course, I STILL only pay $ per date but the point is getting her to feel like it's an ongoing regular thing. Pay her cell phone bill when she needs, buy her dinner, get her nails done. We're talking basic spoiling here that is way cheaper than what we normally pay for company. I may have somewhat of an advantage because I happen to be a bit younger than the average "sugar daddy" so it's easier for me to talk to them on their level. Either way, if you have the patience and are willing to risk the few wasted messages, which sucks because we have to pay to read messages I know. Then the end result is way better than any escort you'll ever meet. We're talking genuinely interest girls that will actually enjoy the experience, clean and healthy, no handlers or LEO drama. It's worth every cent of the investment to me.How do you get women to have something at stake if we're the one's paying? Surprised that they will accept $ for starring in your dreams. Finally had one agree to a 2nd meet after buying her dinner, nothing else happened. But she wanted $$$ and did not think she would stay long as she has kids. She is cute but not a 10. Failed at negotiating her down.
People Pleasur
11-09-17, 23:37
I'm in Mesa and looking to rent a room.
For my UTR. I'm also married so using a credit card isn't really an option. Does anyone know of a hotel in the area that will take cash or even I could use my prepaid card but don't want to have to make a deposit. Any advice is appreciated.I use a Bluebird AmEx card from Wal-Mart for my UTR activities. You can load cash on it at Wal-Mart and use it just like a CC. You do have to register it online and give them a legit address to send a permanent card to (I used my work address) but everything is online after that so no paper trail. A regular prepaid Visa will work as well as long as you have enough cash on the card to cover the extra deposit they claim when you check in for incidentals. Usually about $50 or so on a $100 room. Not sure what rates in your fine city run.
It works here in Atlanta. I'm lurking on your board doing recon for a trip to your fine city in Feb. Hopefully this would work for you as well.
I have to second this experience. I actually love WYP and have pretty much stopped hunting BP as a result. My success rate is basically 100%. Not saying that I succeed with every girl that I message, but if we meet in person then it's a sure thing EVERY TIME. I personally never offer more than 100 for a date. But the reality is the date offer doesn't really matter. I'm not paying a dime unless she's willing to offer more and show that she has skin in the game (no pun intended). After a few initial messages, I'll tell her that I'd like to take her to dinner or drinks, but I make it really clear that I don't pay anything on the first date for the same reason she probably won't agree to sex on the first date. I tell her that the first date is just to make sure that she isn't a serial first dater that just grabs the cash and runs. The second date is where I pay, and skies the limit. If she agrees to this (which surprisingly most do), then I know I'm golden. Of course, I STILL only pay $ per date but the point is getting her to feel like it's an ongoing regular thing. Pay her cell phone bill when she needs, buy her dinner, get her nails done. We're talking basic spoiling here that is way cheaper than what we normally pay for company. I may have somewhat of an advantage because I happen to be a bit younger than the average "sugar daddy" so it's easier for me to talk to them on their level. Either way, if you have the patience and are willing to risk the few wasted messages, which sucks because we have to pay to read messages I know. Then the end result is way better than any escort you'll ever meet. We're talking genuinely interest girls that will actually enjoy the experience, clean and healthy, no handlers or LEO drama. It's worth every cent of the investment to me.Gave it a shot tonight. Didn't get a chance to meet the due to timing, but she did send nudes. Not sure if / how much it will be, but her number was kept.
I'm in Mesa and looking to rent a room.
For my UTR. I'm also married so using a credit card isn't really an option. Does anyone know of a hotel in the area that will take cash or even I could use my prepaid card but don't want to have to make a deposit. Any advice is appreciated.I almost always use cash for hotels and motels unless it is business and have never been turned down. Just last weekend I stayed at the Westin in Downtown San Diego and they asked for a $500 cash deposit. At Ramada's, Hitlon's, Double Tree's, and Embassy's I have never had to give more than $200 cash deposit. More budget friendly places require $100 or less cash deposit.
If average looking 40 year old blondes who are racists are your thing, go for it, but not me. Closed minds = closed in bed. She sent a bid for a date with me for $50, never viewed her profile, no facial photos. Accepted it, and messaged back and forth how was your day yada yada, then get a racist message about why in my profile I pay 50 for a first date, (in my profile stated I'm trying to avoid the cash and dashers and more generous later). She states she only accepts $100 for dinner dates "especially for first dates". That her time is "sacred". Women! Or should say *itches.
Lesson to self: no facial pictures means they are hiding something externally and internally.
If average looking 40 year old blondes who are racists are your thing, go for it, but not me. Closed minds = closed in bed. She sent a bid for a date with me for $50, never viewed her profile, no facial photos. Accepted it, and messaged back and forth how was your day yada yada, then get a racist message about why in my profile I pay 50 for a first date, (in my profile stated I'm trying to avoid the cash and dashers and more generous later). She states she only accepts $100 for dinner dates "especially for first dates". That her time is "sacred". Women! Or should say *itches.
Lesson to self: no facial pictures means they are hiding something externally and internally.Lmao. Take that out of your profile. The women who are SERIOUS about meeting someone and who would not cash and dash would probably never agree to that. There are so many broke and cheap guys on that website they don't want to waste their time. However, a free dinner + $50 for one of the women who have no intentions of ever talking to you again? That's a gold mine.
No facial pics also means they are in a relationship and don't want their S. O. To find out.
Either way, some red flags on HER profile.
1. DOUBLE POSTED PICTURES.
2. Dating Long-term Sugar Daddy / Baby Casual dating.
3. 40, bachelors degree, single, no kids? Not a problem. All of that plus an xtemely vague poorly written profile? Pass.
Lmao. Take that out of your profile. The women who are SERIOUS about meeting someone and who would not cash and dash would probably never agree to that. There are so many broke and cheap guys on that website they don't want to waste their time. However, a free dinner + $50 for one of the women who have no intentions of ever talking to you again? That's a gold mine.
No facial pics also means they are in a relationship and don't want their S. O. To find out.
Either way, some red flags on HER profile.
1. DOUBLE POSTED PICTURES.
2. Dating Long-term Sugar Daddy / Baby Casual dating.
3. 40, bachelors degree, single, no kids? Not a problem. All of that plus an xtemely vague poorly written profile? Pass.I took your advice from your previous post and removed offering $50 for first dates but it took 4 days for WYP to approve my profile. Though surprisingly she and another older woman contacted me first offering 50. Tomorrow night supposed to meet that one for dinner. For 50 figured might as well take her out for dinner, did not think she would go for coming over to my place for 50.
Figures that Tigerlily is in a relationship and hiding it. When I see pictures of women hiding their faces like behind a cat, I tend to pass, just those boobies of Tigerlily got my attention for some reason. LOL. Then out of the blue after texting about her day get one that says. "It's Jewish. I read your profile about offering 50. I only accept 100 for first dates. I work full time. My evenings are sacred. Blah, blah, Blah". Had to re-read it a couple time, thinking WTF, you're an ugly racist, there is no way I'm going to want to meet you, why should I pay $ plus dinner, get nothing in return and then have to pay ever more to hook up with a *itch! Then realized WYP had not updated my profile since was surprised she sent a bid of 50 after removed it from my profile. Have no intention of ever meeting or contacting Tigerlily again just wanted to see her picture so know her if ever run into her professionally though she is probably lying about her career.
Thanks again for your insight.
Greeneyedenigma on WYP says she's 51, got to be at least 61. Face pictures are old in comparison. I know women lie about their age even the 21 year olds lie but that was kinda ridiculous. What do I have do, ask them to send a photo holding up the paper? Guess next time should plan to meet up at a bar, show up late and if their description does not match leave quickly. Lovedoll86 pulled the same stunt and now has new profile pictures that are old too.
Greeneye was friendly, exercises, takes care of herself. Cautious. Will see if anything happens next time.
IntManMystery
11-16-17, 22:27
Any of you gentlemen us SA in the valley? I recently moved here and have had some pretty good success, I think its much better than WYP. Thoughts?
Turns out she is a lesbian trolling for a woman. Meet her for drinks last night. Texting tonight and she starts hinting about another women then comes out, talks about a 3 some and when said don't know of another woman, get a sorry to burst your bubble I'm gay with an emoji. Ugh! What a *ITCH! First name is Darla. Rest of identity can be guessed but no facebook page to tease that out like did with v*galydia. I know it is kind of funny but don't like getting ripped off. Going with DaBrennar and MisterMagic's advice, no more meetings for cash unless at my place. Reported her on WYP.
Any of you gentlemen us SA in the valley? I recently moved here and have had some pretty good success, I think its much better than WYP. Thoughts?It's too much of a hassle to get credits on that site. Better to wait until a free trial pops up.
FINALLY hit the jackpot!
37 YO, 4'11" 97 lbs. Dyed blonde / caucasian (she jumped on my bathroom scale after showering and all the fun -ha ha) NO baby damage either.
Has lots of drama going on, but accepted my lowball bid of 10 dollars (yes 10 bucks).
She is living with her baby (4 YO son) daddy, but have been on the rocks for 6 months.
Has 2 other sons (15 YO and 8 YO) 8 YO lives with his daddy in Michigan, 15 YO going to relocate to Colorado to be with his daddy.
She has NEVER been married, does NOT smoke and don't think she does drugs, but likes her booze.
Met near her home (Walmart. Dysart and Thunderbird) for initial meeting and a drink Tuesday afternoon. (Out of pocket for drinks / tip 11 bucks).
No "date " money as it was just a meet / greet.
Agreed for me to pick her up yesterday evening, she was at friends near 35th av and Northern.
On way to my abode, said she was hungry. Swung by QT, large pizza, pretzel and slushy -18 bucks.
At my home we chatted, ate and she had a glass of wine while watching TV.
Decided it was fun time. This gal is a FREAK in bed! ANYTHING GOES!
Loved the taste of her pussy as we 69 'd. Got her of twice before she jumped on CG.
After I busted, we chatted as she told me about her escapades. Says she likes older guys, and only fucked on guy younger then herself. (referred to him as Pencil Dick).
After 30-45 minutes, this old fart was ready for round 2. As she played with the boys, kept commenting they where the largest she had ever seen. (too bad she didn't say that about my root -LOL).
2 pops and she was happy with a bill (never ask till we where on our way back), but made me promise to see her again!
We where at my home about 2 1/2 hours-NEVER rushed anything!
Returned her to Northern /35th av.
Had a lot to be "thankful " for on Thanksgiving.
JAMESJ.
FINALLY hit the jackpot!
37 YO, 4'11" 97 lbs. Dyed blonde / caucasian (she jumped on my bathroom scale after showering and all the fun -ha ha) NO baby damage either.
Has lots of drama going on, but accepted my lowball bid of 10 dollars (yes 10 bucks).
She is living with her baby (4 YO son) daddy, but have been on the rocks for 6 months.
Has 2 other sons (15 YO and 8 YO) 8 YO lives with his daddy in Michigan, 15 YO going to relocate to Colorado to be with his daddy.
She has NEVER been married, does NOT smoke and don't think she does drugs, but likes her booze.
Met near her home (Walmart. Dysart and Thunderbird) for initial meeting and a drink Tuesday afternoon. (Out of pocket for drinks / tip 11 bucks).
No "date " money as it was just a meet / greet.
Agreed for me to pick her up yesterday evening, she was at friends near 35th av and Northern.
On way to my abode, said she was hungry. Swung by QT, large pizza, pretzel and slushy -18 bucks.
At my home we chatted, ate and she had a glass of wine while watching TV.
Decided it was fun time. This gal is a FREAK in bed! ANYTHING GOES!
Loved the taste of her pussy as we 69 'd. Got her of twice before she jumped on CG.
After I busted, we chatted as she told me about her escapades. Says she likes older guys, and only fucked on guy younger then herself. (referred to him as Pencil Dick).
After 30-45 minutes, this old fart was ready for round 2. As she played with the boys, kept commenting they where the largest she had ever seen. (too bad she didn't say that about my root -LOL).
2 pops and she was happy with a bill (never ask till we where on our way back), but made me promise to see her again!
We where at my home about 2 1/2 hours-NEVER rushed anything!
Returned her to Northern /35th av.
Had a lot to be "thankful " for on Thanksgiving.
JAMESJ.Amazing James. They do exist out there. Any chance you'd be willing to share LOL.
FYI my current regular from WYP may be looking to take on one or two more clients. She is still thinking about it but if so I'll let you guys know and I'll share her WYP info through PM's.
Some how this ended up in the Strip club report forum. Jamesj replied.
Anyone have the experience of a WYP woman or anyone else asking for money through a cash app? Was supposed to finally hook up today but she canceled due to having her period. Then tonight got a text that she needed a $25 loan til Friday and could I send it through an app. No way am I giving anybody cash electronically. Been trying to hook up but could not connect due to schedules. Thinking about it, she could have offered something else if on her period so obviously she is stringing me along. I do not plan to meet up with her.
Don't waste your WYP credits on Jaylove. She's seeking an allowance and wants a grand for every meeting because she's "worth every penny". Seems like every chick is a scammer or gold digger or gold scamming digger, or scam digging golder on WYP. But the search continues.
AsianLoverMan
12-01-17, 19:59
For those who have noticed that BP ads now contain only phone and picture andbmaybe facebook:
Here is a link to an alternate ad site. It lands on BP but there is a pullout tab on right side for sub categories, such as Asian.
https://backpage.com.phoenix.listcrawler.com/
Asian ads.
https://hongkongbobo.com.phoenix.listcrawler.com/
She's looking for a cash grab. Would not spell out what kind of arrangement she wanted, just wanted to see if we establish a connection. And didn't like my suggested arrangement for a "date" saying it was an illegal exchange basically even though she countered my $100 date offer with $200 but accepted 150 to meet.
She's looking for a cash grab. Would not spell out what kind of arrangement she wanted, just wanted to see if we establish a connection. And didn't like my suggested arrangement for a "date" saying it was an illegal exchange basically even though she countered my $100 date offer with $200 but accepted 150 to meet.Claims to have a "graduate degree" and only making 20-30 grand. (REALLY?).
Also the height of 5' 9" . Many scammers think this is "average " for American women.
JAMESJ.
A couple years ago, a Sr Sr Member here said he had sworn off porn and was seeing a marked increase in his ability to perform after only 3 weeks. The advice stayed with me. Tonight, I came across a TED Talk on You Tube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU
Think I will give it a try. Give up on Chaturbate, Pornhub, etc etc.
LilDaddy72
12-08-17, 05:08
She will do the humpty dance for a pretty penny. Way more than what she's worth. 3 $ on top of the arrangement. She's a solid 6 in the looks dept and a solid 5 when it comes to dancing. My advice, there are much better choices.
She will do the humpty dance for a pretty penny. Way more than what she's worth. 3 $ on top of the arrangement. She's a solid 6 in the looks dept and a solid 5 when it comes to dancing. My advice, there are much better choices.Would be worth it if she was a good dancer. How was Cece's dancing skills? PocoAna is a cheap terrible dancer, knows only 1 basic dance move, critizes you if you change your hand positioning, does not want to talk much, and wants to finish the dance as soon as possible.
This is harder to get dances than I thought. They make excuses like "this is my first time on here, I do not know what to expect, when suggest certain dance moves, either get ignored or they say that is an illegal dance move while asking for 200, or "I don't exchange money for dancing but I would still like to meet you" (I'm probably going to be stupid here and meet her).
She's a crazy b*tich stalker! Blew her off after finally seeing her face picture since she demanded 100 just to meet for only dinner after accepting 50 and then will want more. Played along to just see her face picture. Ignored her follow up texts 2 weeks ago, yesterday she sends a text and now a message on WYP. Well I gather her evening aren't so sacred to obessionly contact me.
Anybody recommend a good app to text with fake numbers? Should have done that.
35 YO 5'4' average looking at best!
Complete waste of credits. Agreed on low ball offer of 20 bucks.
We started exchanging text (phone) messages.
Wanted 350 for an hour of FS!
Told her she suffers from GPS, NO pussy is worth that and to hit me back when she can make a reasonable offer.
Save your time, efforts and CREDITS.
And the hunt continues.
JAMESJ.
That's her handle on Arrangement Finders.
Claims to live in Peoria, 23 YO, 5'5"mixed race (claims to be knocked up and lactating).
Agreed to 100, but then wanted me to send 400 to a pay pal account!
Does ANYONE fall for this bullshit?
AVOID-Do not waste your time.
Also reported her to arrangement Finders as a fraud / scammer.
JAMESJ.
She's a crazy b*tich stalker! Blew her off after finally seeing her face picture since she demanded 100 just to meet for only dinner after accepting 50 and then will want more. Played along to just see her face picture. Ignored her follow up texts 2 weeks ago, yesterday she sends a text and now a message on WYP. Well I gather her evening aren't so sacred to obessionly contact me.
Anybody recommend a good app to text with fake numbers? Should have done that.Hi there,
Been using Google Voice for my texts, been working pretty good for me.
She's a crazy b*tich stalker! Blew her off after finally seeing her face picture since she demanded 100 just to meet for only dinner after accepting 50 and then will want more. Played along to just see her face picture. Ignored her follow up texts 2 weeks ago, yesterday she sends a text and now a message on WYP. Well I gather her evening aren't so sacred to obessionly contact me.
Anybody recommend a good app to text with fake numbers? Should have done that.Had several girls do this.
Notify WYP (giving very specific details) WYP can see the agreed upon "date " price.
WYP has returned my credits all but one time.
Also request they delete / block their's profile. They've done this several times also.
Good way to get the scammers booted and out of business.
Remember, us guys pay for the WYP site, not the girls.
And WYP knows they will always have more providers sign up.
JamesJ.
Nikkie16 on WYP did a dine and dash on me tonight. Should have trusted my gut. Reported her to WYP.
Nikkie16 on WYP did a dine and dash on me tonight. Should have trusted my gut. Reported her to WYP.Sorry it happened to ya. Always go with your gut. I stopped using wyo and SA for the same reasons. Might go back one day though. Happy hunting.
Sorry it happened to ya. Always go with your gut. I stopped using wyo and SA for the same reasons. Might go back one day though. Happy hunting.I think all these women have a fantasy about "a sugar daddy who don't want sugar". My niece posted that on facebook, decided to not touch that one. LOL! Had one, PrincessLiz, who started talking about needing $200 for nursing school expenses, she talked the talk about the degree she was pursing so she was not lying. But would not offer benefits in return though she stated she wanted good conversation, and connection. She still wanted to meet for $100 even after I talked about what I wanted in return for the $200. Would have been another cash and disappear. On to the next but it is starting to sour me on this site.
Or if they do say, they want a NSA relationship, flake out when it comes to meeting.
Found one girl on the modeling site. Then found her facebook. Apparently now blocked from facebook. Now after further research I found her on wyp! Well seems like she is not into dating unless contacted from the other site, so now working on starting a new facebook to start over stating I found her on wyp. Well either way at least I didn't have to buy any credits.
BTW, it is alot harder to create bogus facebook accounts these days. Zuckerberg is cracking down. Needs a legit burner number and also the disposable email sites are not working either.
I think all these women have a fantasy about "a sugar daddy who don't want sugar". My niece posted that on facebook, decided to not touch that one. LOL! Had one, PrincessLiz, who started talking about needing $200 for nursing school expenses, she talked the talk about the degree she was pursing so she was not lying. But would not offer benefits in return though she stated she wanted good conversation, and connection. She still wanted to meet for $100 even after I talked about what I wanted in return for the $200. Would have been another cash and disappear. On to the next but it is starting to sour me on this site.
Or if they do say, they want a NSA relationship, flake out when it comes to meeting.
So I got a new job off of Shea and 101. Wondered if anyone had a line on anything fun in that area. PM me if you like. Thanks.
TappinDatAss
12-20-17, 17:23
So I started looking through apps to use for entertainment and came across meet me which is pretty much like the rest of the apps. I threw out some bait and landed a fish named Mia 29 yrs old spinner nice looking says she just got here from Colorado. Picked her up and off we went back to my casa for some fun. Lots of rules LOL she doesn't do BJ and nothing uncovered. So had her spank the little fella to get his attention and then on went the cover for some heavy pounding. I finished up and dropped her back off where I found her as I always practice the catch and release method. Although I wouldn't recommend her for her price point of a benny it filled the need for the day.
Tappin catch and release OUT.
Good bakery in that plaza by the Kinko's. Check out the chocolate chip cookie and can of diet coke at least.
So I got a new job off of Shea and 101. Wondered if anyone had a line on anything fun in that area. PM me if you like. Thanks.
So I recently signed up for SA (Seeking Arrangement), got quite a few responses, but am I missing something here or is the only way to actually get in touch with these girls is to do the Upgrade for $80 / month, which I won't do? Info appreciated.
MesafabGuy69
12-21-17, 17:47
So I recently signed up for SA (Seeking Arrangement), got quite a few responses, but am I missing something here or is the only way to actually get in touch with these girls is to do the Upgrade for $80 / month, which I won't do? Info appreciated.You're not missing anything, really weird that they won't just let you use their service for free huh?
You're not missing anything, really weird that they won't just let you use their service for free huh?Time share. Just get 20 hobbyists to time share on a sugar daddy account. That way will only be $4 per month. Each hobbyist in the time share consortium will of course email the girls he is interested in. Ideally, it would be good to divy up the women. I volunteer to take all the 18-19 year olds if anyone wants dibs on the other ranges.
You're not missing anything, really weird that they won't just let you use their service for free huh?Wasn't looking for free, 80 seems kind of pricey, but anyway researching further It looks like you can send a message just not read any replies, so I guess if you want you can just send them a number to reach you at and start up that way. Just a though, not using it anyway there are too many other sites that are pay as you go or free to find them on.
So I recently signed up for SA (Seeking Arrangement), got quite a few responses, but am I missing something here or is the only way to actually get in touch with these girls is to do the Upgrade for $80 / month, which I won't do? Info appreciated.It has gone up 33% in the last 3-4 years. Used to be an absolute gold mine, now it is full of straight up hookers and flakes, all who've heard that they can get 400 for dinner only. Still a few diamonds, but they're awful hard to find now.
But how do the girls read the replies? Don't they have to pay $80 also?
Wasn't looking for free, 80 seems kind of pricey, but anyway researching further It looks like you can send a message just not read any replies, so I guess if you want you can just send them a number to reach you at and start up that way. Just a though, not using it anyway there are too many other sites that are pay as you go or free to find them on.
All sugar babies take note to leave clues at to actual email address in the profile. The site has apparently been wiping metadata from the pics and screwing up reverse image searches as well.
It has gone up 33% in the last 3-4 years. Used to be an absolute gold mine, now it is full of straight up hookers and flakes, all who've heard that they can get 400 for dinner only. Still a few diamonds, but they're awful hard to find now.
PhillyFan45
12-22-17, 19:08
It has gone up 33% in the last 3-4 years. Used to be an absolute gold mine, now it is full of straight up hookers and flakes, all who've heard that they can get 400 for dinner only. Still a few diamonds, but they're awful hard to find now.They're a joke. Stopped participating with them over a year ago. Still get tons of emails, which I can't see and I'm good with that. Arrangement Finders is another joke. Most of them are Russians wanting you to reach out to them via a gmail address. At which time they'll try to sucker you into private web chats.
I tried to cash in on my ten free messages. Created a burner SA account then left contact number and email. Come to find out the admin of SA deleted my contact info and sent the emails sans contact info. Now I am on the hook to pay them in order to see what was written back. My sent folder on SA confirms the deletions by the admin and requests that they text me back instead of replying to the site, because I am not a premium member.
Effort - 10.
Results - 0.
They're a joke. Stopped participating with them over a year ago. Still get tons of emails, which I can't see and I'm good with that. Arrangement Finders is another joke. Most of them are Russians wanting you to reach out to them via a gmail address. At which time they'll try to sucker you into private web chats.
I tried to cash in on my ten free messages. Created a burner SA account then left contact number and email. Come to find out the admin of SA deleted my contact info and sent the emails sans contact info. Now I am on the hook to pay them in order to see what was written back. My sent folder on SA confirms the deletions by the admin and requests that they text me back instead of replying to the site, because I am not a premium member.
Effort - 10.
Results - 0.Sorry to hit you with this news flash, but NOTHING in life is free!
Plus, you are out the cost of your "burner phone ".
JAMESJ.
Have been collecting the last few months of myself reviewing SW, MP, And BP girls. I use a special camera in my glasses to get HD quality material in a POV shot. Will be uploading to my xvideos account in the next few weeks. PM me if you would like the link to my page. Also if there are any girls out there that would like me to review please PM. Time stamp on videos shows what the girls actually look like in person and not these fact ad post or pictures of themselves from years ago. Happy hunting in 2018 fellas!
Because I got so many messages when I start posting my material to xvideos I will post the link in the general section. Please give me a few weeks to edit the info.
Also thinking about creating a secured vlog where only trusted members can join. If anyone can help with this please let me know.
Thanks!
Have been collecting the last few months of myself reviewing SW, MP, And BP girls. I use a special camera in my glasses to get HD quality material in a POV shot. Will be uploading to my xvideos account in the next few weeks. PM me if you would like the link to my page. Also if there are any girls out there that would like me to review please PM. Time stamp on videos shows what the girls actually look like in person and not these fact ad post or pictures of themselves from years ago. Happy hunting in 2018 fellas!
Well I was able to get the phone number from a girl on WYP after facebook and instagram reverse checks. Started texting her and she wanted a date only but all money paid up front. Then (LOL) I checked if I could do a reverse topless massage on her instead. But then she pipes up that she does massages on a condo at 3rd Ave and Indian School. So clearly this is not her location. But what massage place is this? Seems fishy to me.
Does anyone know of good sites to look up provider? I tried BP but all I see is phone nimbers, no discription or location. Or somewhere where I can get a provider in person (street).
ChrisPaul69
01-03-18, 10:51
Could you share us the links to these videos?
Have been collecting the last few months of myself reviewing SW, MP, And BP girls. I use a special camera in my glasses to get HD quality material in a POV shot. Will be uploading to my xvideos account in the next few weeks. PM me if you would like the link to my page. Also if there are any girls out there that would like me to review please PM. Time stamp on videos shows what the girls actually look like in person and not these fact ad post or pictures of themselves from years ago. Happy hunting in 2018 fellas!
I have received a lot of pm requesting the link but I'm currently working with someone trying to come up with safe site.
Also I was wondering if I have to cover the girls faces or blur them out to avoid legal trouble.
Could you share us the links to these videos?
Was feeling adventurous this past weekend, after scavenging on the net for something exciting, came across reviews for Ms. Travel. It's basically travel dating and follows almost the same model as SA and WYP. You put in an ad stating your plans for a travel, and members, if interested in your ad, reach back to you. I posted an ad for a trip to Flag and got three messages expressing their interest; I exchanged a few messages with the three, and all had similar response patterns, in terms of usage of words, length and other typos. Kind of similar to the spam replies you get after posting an ad on CL. Well, long story short, save your $40 or so (per month), and stick to tried and tested services like tndr, wyp and sa.
Happy hunting!
So, lost a long time hookup. Does anyone know of any decent websites anymore or know a girl looking for a regular. PM if you like. Any new info would be much appreciated. Happy hunting!
So, lost a long time hookup. Does anyone know of any decent websites anymore or know a girl looking for a regular. PM if you like. Any new info would be much appreciated. Happy hunting!Hope this helps!
JAMESJ.
Seems like a good use of the Southwest companion pass.
Was feeling adventurous this past weekend, after scavenging on the net for something exciting, came across reviews for Ms. Travel. It's basically travel dating and follows almost the same model as SA and WYP. You put in an ad stating your plans for a travel, and members, if interested in your ad, reach back to you. I posted an ad for a trip to Flag and got three messages expressing their interest; I exchanged a few messages with the three, and all had similar response patterns, in terms of usage of words, length and other typos. Kind of similar to the spam replies you get after posting an ad on CL. Well, long story short, save your $40 or so (per month), and stick to tried and tested services like tndr, wyp and sa.
Happy hunting!
Member #6524
01-12-18, 22:28
Scary stuff! Pretty sure I saw their ad on BP too. 86 guys in 10 days. Be vigilant and stay safe out there guys!
http://ktla.com/2018/01/12/phoenix-police-open-undercover-massage-parlor-arrest-86-men-who-wanted-them-to-perform-sexual-acts/
Desert Rat
01-16-18, 17:18
I tried the new generic Viagra and was happy with the results. The pill is the same shape but not blue. It was half the price which is nice for my bottom line. Be Safe.
Member #5697
01-17-18, 21:22
I tried the new generic Viagra and was happy with the results. The pill is the same shape but not blue. It was half the price which is nice for my bottom line. Be Safe.Used to take Generics all day when I lived in Central America! Shit is over the counter there. Literally $1 a pop. Market is so fucked up here. Whenever I go down there to visit ancestors I bring back a jar of Ibuprofen filled with them shits.
http://www.tevaedgeneric.com/savingscard.html
Feltch Monkey
01-18-18, 12:19
At the expense of sounding like forum spam, there is a site GoodRx.com that will price search prescription medications within a given location to help you find the best price. It also has coupons that knock the price down significantly.
For example, 30 pills of Sildenafil 20 mg (generic Viagra) would cost $18.20 (61 each) at Safeway or Albertsons with their coupon vs $536 cash at Walgreens or $526 cash at CVS. They also have an app for both Android & iPhone.
Head Banger
01-18-18, 19:48
Due to Phx LE associating solicitation with HT, I thought you guys might want to know how to fight back.
I copied the stuff below from another person.
There is hope! Here are 4 organizations fighting for decriminalization, based on the idea that sexual freedom, including sex work, is a basic human right. All 4 agree that sex work is entirely distinct from human trafficking. 2 of these organizations were founded in the 21st century.
The first 3 are nonprofits, the 4th is a trade association.
1 -.
Sex Workers Outreach Project.
http://www.nswp.org/sites/nswp.org/f...20150410_0.pdf
2 -.
Woodhull Sexual Freedom Foundation.
https://www.woodhullfoundation.org/2...edom-day-2017/
https://www.woodhullfoundation.org/2...er-rights-day/
3 -.
Amnesty International.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne...-human-rights/
https://www.amnestyusa.org/files/amn...ed_-_final.pdf
Note the fourth bullet point in particular of Amnesty's worldwide policy regarding sex work:
"Repeal existing laws and refrain from introducing new laws that criminalize or penalize directly or in practice the consensual exchange of sexual services between adults for remuneration;.
So although Amnesty's focus is on a much broader range of issues than the hobby, their official position on the hobby plays a role in all of the causes they work on.
4 -.
Free Speech Coalition.
The trade association of the pornography industry. Their name derives from the fact that the court cases legalizing porn production in parts of the USA were based on the First Amendment (Freedom of Speech) to the Constitution. Without those court cases the porn business could not exist, at least not as big as it is, since most hardcore porn performers have to be paid to make the films.
http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/
Desert Rat
01-29-18, 15:47
The Phoenix Open is this week and I choose to stay out of the hobby during this event. Big events tend to draw ladies from out of town and our friends in law enforcement. I know it is exciting to see someone new but I do not think the improved choice of ladies is worth the risk. Please be safe out there.
PhillyFan45
01-29-18, 18:12
The Phoenix Open is this week and I choose to stay out of the hobby during this event. Big events tend to draw ladies from out of town and our friends in law enforcement. I know it is exciting to see someone new but I do not think the improved choice of ladies is worth the risk. Please be safe out there.They'll probably be washing golfer's balls all week anyway. You never hear them getting busted unless you're Tiger Woods. 😂.
Seems like a sting. The following indicated in an unsolicited text that condoms are required for BJ but she provided full service too then gave her specific address of near 18th Street.
Would not send a topless pic for screening.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/480-316-9830/68797227
This one advertises BBBJ in a jurisdiction where other trials ended in a conviction for prostitution merely by advertising BBBJ without any actual follow up verbal contracts. After requesting a topless pic she refused and called me a perv. So how is it not perverted to advertise a BBBJ but it is to ask for a topless pic to make sure not a sting?
http://phoenix.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/480-587-1429/66910242
Seems like a sting. The following indicated in an unsolicited text that condoms are required for BJ but she provided full service too then gave her specific address of near 18th Street.
Would not send a topless pic for screening.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/480-316-9830/68797227
This one advertises BBBJ in a jurisdiction where other trials ended in a conviction for prostitution merely by advertising BBBJ without any actual follow up verbal contracts. After requesting a topless pic she refused and called me a perv. So how is it not perverted to advertise a BBBJ but it is to ask for a topless pic to make sure not a sting?
http://phoenix.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/480-587-1429/66910242By being direct on what she is offering, isn't perverted! May not be the best way to advertise but she is just putting out there what she offers! But someone that constantly keeps asking providers for a topless pic to prove that it is not a sting, one would think this pervert is nothing more than a pic collector!
Desert Rat
02-07-18, 01:06
I never set foot in Scottsdale while meeting ladies but now I am also excluding Mesa.
http://www.azfamily.com/story/37440862/prostitution-sting-nets-15-arrests
Had some great times in Mesa I would never exclude Mesa that is where some of the best BBFS I have had was from. However you have to do it on your own terms. Do not let the decoy / provider make the rules. Set and control the time, place, and conditions for the meetings. Behind enemy lines is where the most excitement lies.
I never set foot in Scottsdale while meeting ladies but now I am also excluding Mesa.
http://www.azfamily.com/story/37440862/prostitution-sting-nets-15-arrests
While white collar crimes thrive, these poor bastards get busted for trying to get some poon. Possibly lose their jobs, families etc. It's a risk we all take I get it, and I've been busted before so I know it's a shitty deal. But damn, what exactly do they accomplish by doing these stings? Oh, they caught some 'criminals' doing bad stuff! Guess what, after they pay their fines and serve their 24 hours or whatever, they're going to call another ad and get their nut! So again, what exactly do they accomplish with these stings?
I never set foot in Scottsdale while meeting ladies but now I am also excluding Mesa.
http://www.azfamily.com/story/37440862/prostitution-sting-nets-15-arrests
First Dude1968
02-09-18, 12:14
Gentleman. I am coming to your city next month. I'm not a BP guy so not worried about stings. I am more into 411 and Eros.com types. You guys have a ton of choices I don't have in Knoxville. If cost is not an issue. Who is the best of the best? Thanks in advance. And yes I've been reading your forum a lot.
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Lasvegas318
03-10-18, 04:32
So I am in lone butte casino and I just lost at bad bingo (again).
Anyway. Lot of girlies around especially of native / Hispanic.
But none seem to be pros. I never get approached and anytime I open girls up they are just regular ladies. Which is fine, but come on this is a casino damm it! There should be hoes.
Am I missing out on something? Are other casinos better than others? The bar seems to be a spot or at least it should be, but. What gives?
Anyway, any tips absolutely appreciated.
SimonWest08
03-10-18, 07:52
So I am in lone butte casino and I just lost at bad bingo (again).
Anyway. Lot of girlies around especially of native / Hispanic.
But none seem to be pros. I never get approached and anytime I open girls up they are just regular ladies. Which is fine, but come on this is a casino damm it! There should be hoes.
Am I missing out on something? Are other casinos better than others? The bar seems to be a spot or at least it should be, but. What gives?
Anyway, any tips absolutely appreciated.Talking Stick always seems to have a good amount of working gals. I don't know maybe it's the way you dress that is keeping the hoes away from ya! Do you look like a cop?
Lasvegas318
03-10-18, 14:13
Talking Stick always seems to have a good amount of working gals. I don't know maybe it's the way you dress that is keeping the hoes away from ya! Do you look like a cop?LOL I hope not. Last night jeans and a polo. I have met and pulled girls out of the club at talking stick too. I usually put a bit of thought into how I dress so I don't think it is that. Is the bar at talking stick the best place? I have met girls there too but never working.
Damm this is much easier when I go international.
PhxFunLover
03-10-18, 15:17
Damm this is much easier when I go international.I know the feeling, I actually slowed down a lot on the hobby except when I am in friendlier cities because its just easier to save the cash and go buck wild internationally with the only worry being if she will perform or not. The quality of lookers is better too, especially in Europe.
I have not seen anything posted by DavePHX for sometime now! He was one to keep us informed! Wondering if anyone might know more why we have not heard from him or DavePHX himself let us know things are good?
I have not seen anything posted by DavePHX for sometime now! He was one to keep us informed! Wondering if anyone might know more why we have not heard from him or DavePHX himself let us know things are good?I, too, miss the info Dave provided. Both his excursions at the various strip clubs and, especially, the LE and legal happenings. I seem to recall some members weren't happy with his posts and were just seeing doom and gloom instead of information that can help folks be safe and, on the far end of optimism, potential for legal changes that keeps LE out of private, consensual meetings. If a shop was busted and stays open or reopens, I will certainly stay away for quite a while. Since I'm now lacking that stream of information, I feel it puts me at a larger disadvantage so my extra Benjamins, Grants, and Jacksons instead find their way to the blackjack tables where I frequently leave with more than I entered with.
Papa Rotzi
03-15-18, 01:43
I have not seen anything posted by DavePHX for sometime now! He was one to keep us informed! Wondering if anyone might know more why we have not heard from him or DavePHX himself let us know things are good?I still receive Dave's private email (last one was about a week ago) and he's focused mainly on all of the legal aspects of the hobby. NO Reviews and NO posts from any providers; just updates to various court cases and past (or recent) busts. Just an FYI.
I still receive Dave's private email (last one was about a week ago) and he's focused mainly on all of the legal aspects of the hobby. NO Reviews and NO posts from any providers; just updates to various court cases and past (or recent) busts. Just an FYI.I would welcome DavePHX's return. He provided a much needed service to this forum that I don't get anywhere else. If you speak to him, please let him know that he's missed and to not let any of the negative posters here get him down. The silent majority appreciated his posts.
I would welcome DavePHX's return. He provided a much needed service to this forum that I don't get anywhere else. If you speak to him, please let him know that he's missed and to not let any of the negative posters here get him down. The silent majority appreciated his posts.Me too. Last I knew he was following up on the m10/ golden bust (operator pending trial while out on $75000 bond) and other cases of interest. He's missed.
PhillyFan45
03-15-18, 23:12
I would welcome DavePHX's return. He provided a much needed service to this forum that I don't get anywhere else. If you speak to him, please let him know that he's missed and to not let any of the negative posters here get him down. The silent majority appreciated his posts.I could be wrong. But I think he got three strikes. Or he just decided to not put up with the drama.
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Me too. Last I knew he was following up on the m10/ golden bust (operator pending trial while out on $75000 bond) and other cases of interest. He's missed.See there. I did not know a out those busts. Dave always kept us up to date with this crap.
I, too, miss the info Dave provided. Both his excursions at the various strip clubs and, especially, the LE and legal happenings. I seem to recall some members weren't happy with his posts and were just seeing doom and gloom instead of information that can help folks be safe and, on the far end of optimism, potential for legal changes that keeps LE out of private, consensual meetings. If a shop was busted and stays open or reopens, I will certainly stay away for quite a while. Since I'm now lacking that stream of information, I feel it puts me at a larger disadvantage so my extra Benjamins, Grants, and Jacksons instead find their way to the blackjack tables where I frequently leave with more than I entered with.I don't think it was just "some members" that were unhappy with Dave. Dave got in trouble with the moderators of this site. If you look back, the moderators cracked down on him and told him he could keep posting but he needed to comply with their rules. And apparently Dave has chosen not to post much since then rather than follow those rules. In particular, I think he got in trouble for completely derailing the Strip Club Reports thread with his legal warnings rather than posting them elsewhere on the site.
Opened up a date (used 10 credits) from this gal about 2 weeks ago after she messaged me.
Claims to be 24,5' 6" with a Scottsdale address.
Finally started texting me today. (276 xxx 8058).
Got confused where she lived (Scottsdale, Phoenix or Meza).
Conversation swung to wanting some sex toys.
Started the bullshit "if your serious, you will go to Amazon and order them".
Wanted them sent to a PO box in Virginia!
Knew she was a scammer so played along for a bit.
Wanted me to send a picture (they do this so they can threaten to post your mug on websites / extort money) Sent her a nice dick pic instead!
Have not heard back (LOL).
Do not waste credits opening a date with this scammer. Also reported her to WYP.
And the hunt continues.
JAMESJ.
HardMuscle1
03-22-18, 15:01
Hello Everyone,
I'm in the downtown Phoenix area today and tomorrow and looking for some suggestions on Female Providers, UTR's, SW etc. I've read a few posts and pm'ed a couple people and figured I'd post here for everyone else to hopefully chime in with their suggestions and advice. I definitely lean more to a petite female and FS is my goal, however beggars can't be choosy and I'm willing to pretty much entertain all options.
Thank you very much in advance and Everyone Please Stay Safe!
JB.
AsianLoverMan
03-22-18, 19:01
I am no spring chicken, and the days of instant hard are long gone. I have made an unexpected discovery. I have the onset of neurology in my feet. I discovered that in Europe, Alpha Lipoic Acid is a recognized remedy that is not so in USA. I bought 600 mg from Amazon Prime for $15. (240 capsules) I am taking four a day. No known bad side effects. It is known to regenerate nerve function. Guess what? There is nerve function involved in erections. After three weeks, I started having natural erections in the morning. Now, after 5 weeks, all the time, with a little physical stimulation. Who knew?
Well they done done it. Some pent-up ugly as hell republican from Missouri (Misery) shoved a bill through that effectively shut down the personal ads on CL. Personally I'm getting pretty tired of these right-wing-nuts telling me who I can and can't have sex with. I think it's time to look at Canada.
DontKnowMe19
03-23-18, 02:07
Well they done done it. Some pent-up ugly as hell republican from Missouri (Misery) shoved a bill through that effectively shut down the personal ads on CL. Personally I'm getting pretty tired of these right-wing-nuts telling me who I can and can't have sex with. I think it's time to look at Canada.Yep. Sucks CL is gone. BP is next and soon will be all the SB / SD sites, FetLife, and other adult websites.
Yep. Sucks CL is gone. BP is next and soon will be all the SB / SD sites, FetLife, and other adult websites.Backpage switched all their ads to just numbers and pictures as a strategy to beat this law. I don't think Backpage is going to just shut down. They have been fighting and mostly beating the federal government in court. I would expect them to keep fighting. Unlike Craigslist who let personal ads post for free, these ads are Backpage's main source of revenue too. If Backpage pulls their personal ads, they are pretty much done. Also unlike Craigslist, Backpage has moved most of its operations to Europe.
Some of the bigger SB / SD sites are based outside of the US too. And FetLife is based in Canada. I'm not sure any of these sites are just going to shut down.
If you look, personals are available in other countries. So someone will simply operate out of another country. Costa Rica, nice place to retire I think. They'll charge some fee and get super rich. Best part is all the spam mail will be eliminated.
PhxFunLover
03-25-18, 03:38
Looks like city v is also gone.
UnderTheGun
03-25-18, 11:05
RubMaps.com is only showing a blank page. It went down around midnight last night and is still not working. Is it just down for maintenance or is something else going on?
These sites are going down like a 10 dollar ***** in Mexico. AdultFriendFinder as well. I got a crisp dollar that says this site will go down too.
Papa Rotzi
03-26-18, 19:56
There is an escort agency here in Phoenix that has the "Spinner" name included in its URL. I've tired a google search and various name combos to no avail. Does anyone know what agency I'm talking about? Thanks in advance -- PR.
RubMaps.com is only showing a blank page. It went down around midnight last night and is still not working. Is it just down for maintenance or is something else going on?Rubmaps is up for me.
These sites are going down like a 10 dollar ***** in Mexico. AdultFriendFinder as well. I got a crisp dollar that says this site will go down too.I'd take that bet. This site isn't going anywhere without major international pressure happening first.
Also AdultFriendFinder seems to be up.
Stop panicking.
SuperBad69
03-27-18, 02:57
There is an escort agency here in Phoenix that has the "Spinner" name included in its URL. I've tired a google search and various name combos to no avail. Does anyone know what agency I'm talking about? Thanks in advance -- PR.Spinneraddiction.
DrThomas35
03-28-18, 17:15
With CL personals going offline, I'd expect to see more LE going after BP and other channels right now. Be careful out there.
https://www.abc15.com/news/region-southeast-valley/mesa/pd-21-men-arrested-in-mesa-prostitution-bust
Rocketshot
03-29-18, 11:23
Hi guys, I will be visiting your fair city over Easter and have lined up a "date" with this Asian girl. She looks and sounds TGTBT. Does anyone have any Intel they can share with me?
Bareback Guy
03-30-18, 16:46
Since Mesa seems to be putting people in the news for the wrong reasons:
https://mesapd.********.com/
(For some reason, the Mesa PD blog won't link on here. But there is a blog to follow if you do a search.)
Since Mesa seems to be putting people in the news for the wrong reasons:
https://mesapd.********.com/
(For some reason, the Mesa PD blog won't link on here. But there is a blog to follow if you do a search.)https://2.bp.********.com/-FrH_4wQYblQ/Wru77PhYIEI/AAAAAAAACBo/ys-L8bxHIL0bugDt_OcwGp_iW3XgfF2IgCLcBGAs/s1600/chase1.jpg
Hi guys, I will be visiting your fair city over Easter and have lined up a "date" with this Asian girl. She looks and sounds TGTBT. Does anyone have any Intel they can share with me?Don't have any intel, she is new to Wyp. Most of the women here on Wyp, are looking for a generous sugar daddy, but don't want to give out any sugar. Rip offs. The ones willing to do so are barely above street walker levels. So I've gone back to the parlors to get my donations worth. Though, if you search on here, one person reviewed quite a few Wyp women with some success.
Good luck!
Is this site down for good now also. I sure can't get anything except Toronto.
Scott.
LilDaddy72
04-03-18, 16:46
How did everything go with Brit9? I have an appointment with her later this week, so I'm curious to hear what happened on your date. Thank you.
Hi guys, I will be visiting your fair city over Easter and have lined up a "date" with this Asian girl. She looks and sounds TGTBT. Does anyone have any Intel they can share with me?
Is this site down for good now also. I sure can't get anything except Toronto.
Scott.I'm in the same boat Scott. Can't imagine that there's any reliable way to stay informed with the direction the site is going.
LilDaddy72
04-03-18, 18:36
Escortbabylon is down. So now here in PHX we're really against the wall for quality reviews and posts. For posting purposes, providers have TNA, Backpage, ECCIE, & P411. For reviews, we now have TER, ECCIE, TNA. This is going to get interesting as agencies are going to jack up the price on ladies at first. It may take a couple of months of very little response before they go the other way and prices come way down. Jesus, this is a mess.
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JohnJjj8888
04-03-18, 20:52
Is this site down for good now also. I sure can't get anything except Toronto.
Scott.Getting the same thing. Glad to know it wasn't my computer or something.
In regards to the sites on list crawler. I can't get them on the pc but I still can on my cell.
How did everything go with Brit9? I have an appointment with her later this week, so I'm curious to hear what happened on your date. Thank you.I'm suppose to meet brooklyn92 later this week as well. We'll see if she fits the bill and not wasting my damn credits. Be safe why'all.
Getting the same thing. Glad to know it wasn't my computer or something.Weird thing is that it works fine on my phone, but my iPad and my laptop won't pull it up at all. It keeps going to Toronto or not loading at all. Guess I'm using my phone.
Well it looks like nearly everything is down now, BP, listcrawler, ter, etc. Doesn't seem to work with listcrawler and obviously with BP but chrome extension called hola will show you as accessing from another country. Works with ter, don't know what else yet.
Scott.
BumpinUglies
04-06-18, 18:51
Same issues here, but use a VPN so like others say can still access TER from outside the US. Noticed quite a few providers active currently on AFF.
https://amp.azcentral.com/amp/494538002
https://amp.azcentral.com/amp/494538002This site is probably on the list. Glad all of my previous posts were made up stories.
Higgs Boson
04-07-18, 01:18
Reported on ABC news app.
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