General Reports

[Flyby Nightowl]

Karen:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-pics-no-time-limit-luv-what-i-do-y-sexysweet-and-busty-private-hm-39/9287910

And

Renee:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-and-sensual-lady-with-curves-looking-to-spend-some-time-with-you-32/9587990

?I've seen reviews of Karen on a local review site so she's legit. I've not followed through though because her pics just aren't that great, but the reviews did say she was fun. Don't know about the other one.

[Assmasstr]

Anyone check her out yet?

She emailed me back with 100 hh 150fh.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/cocktail-waitress-gone-wild-100-me-and-independent-so-come-out-and-play-with-me-23/9464406

[Loaded Male]

Recently, I visited with a beautiful young woman who advertised in BP. It was a pleasant surprise to see that she actually looked better than her pictures. Beautiful eyes added to a beautiful body. BUT, and there is the kicker. She did exactly what she advertised. Totally nude, nice soft touch. Hands only. If only she would have rubbed her body over me, I would have enjoyed it more. I personally think that $120 for a view, a hand and no more is a little too much (about $40 too much). But then, I don't know this area that well.

Personality. 8

Body. 9

Satisfaction. 5

I'll learn how to rate better as I learn this environment.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/classy-fbsm-girl-_-_-_-_-34/9221764

[Ripped Off123]

Anyone check her out yet?

She emailed me back with 100 hh 150fh.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/cocktail-waitress-gone-wild-100-me-and-independent-so-come-out-and-play-with-me-23/9464406

Yeah, I tried to check her out, and she flaked on me. She sounded nice on the phone, but I just dont get the flake...besides stacking up on the customers I guess.

[Tonylove465]

Hello by hobbyist brothers in the desert. I am coming out to PHX in a couple weeks. I am bringing a friend w/ me. Someone told me about Club Discretions. Do any of you have any reviews or can report on the place.

I have only been to one swing club in my life. But this may be a good opportunity for me.

Let me know your thoughts.

Please/thank you.

Tony

[Badtz Maru]

Hello by hobbyist brothers in the desert. I am coming out to PHX in a couple weeks. I am bringing a friend w/ me. Someone told me about Club Discretions. Do any of you have any reviews or can report on the place.

I have only been to one swing club in my life. But this may be a good opportunity for me.

Let me know your thoughts.

Please/thank you.

Tony

Mixed feelings on the place. Depends on what you're expecting to get out of it. There's a range of ages, most people there are more exhibitionist than anything, but if you're bringing a date with you that may work out well (so long as she's interested in swinging).

Just be sure to go on a Saturday night, which is their busiest. The other nights are slow enough that it's pretty much a waste.

[Chica Chaser]

Karen:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-pics-no-time-limit-luv-what-i-do-y-sexysweet-and-busty-private-hm-39/9287910

And

Renee:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-and-sensual-lady-with-curves-looking-to-spend-some-time-with-you-32/9587990

?

Sr's can PM me about Karen. Just saw her this week.

[Tonylove465]

Mixed feelings on the place. Depends on what you're expecting to get out of it. There's a range of ages, most people there are more exhibitionist than anything, but if you're bringing a date with you that may work out well (so long as she's interested in swinging).

Just be sure to go on a Saturday night, which is their busiest. The other nights are slow enough that it's pretty much a waste.Thanks for the input. I am flying out Saturday evening. So I will have to check it out Friday, I guess.

[Gymcoach29]

Got a number from a reliable female friend who told me her really cute friend was in need of money. She has never done this before and does not want to be a pro but, if you want you can meet her. I asked for her photo (this conversation was done through text) a few minutes later I received a picture of what appeared to be a cute brunette. It was kind of grainy but she looked cute enough. I asked her when we could meet and we set something up for the next morning.

I texted her in the morning and she gave me directions and address (not two call system) just gave me her address and told me to come to the door.

I arrived and knocked. What happened next was right out of a fantasy. This young girl (18-19) appeared in the doorway, she was wearing a skirt and bra with a body of a tight teenager. She was HOT. I almost hit the floor.

She invited me in and we went to her room.

She took off her clothes and I followed. She had an UNREAL body. Flat stomach, nice C's still standing up legs that went on forever, nice manicured toes. She asked "do you want me to suck you" I said of course. So she started this amazing BBBJ for a couple of minutes until I was afraid I could not hold out anymore. So I rolled her over and asked if she had a cover. She said no. I was like. Ummmm what to do now? She asked me if I had anything? I said no. She said, you can still do it if you promise you don't have anything. The little head got the better of me and I had to.

It was like heaven. She looked young and felt younger. Literally tightest I have had in 20 years.

Couple of minutes into it and we are making out like school kids and I start feeling that urge. I asked where do you want me to cum?, She replied, you can cum inside me if you want. That did it. Couple of pumps later and I am filling her tight womb with the most cum I have spent in years.

Saw her a couple of days later and we repeated the same performance only this time she let me take pics and video. She is definantely a keeper.

[Az Dude]

I arrived and knocked. What happened next was right out of a fantasy. This young girl (18-19) appeared in the doorway, she was wearing a skirt and bra with a body of a tight teenager. She was HOT. I almost hit the floor.

Saw her a couple of days later and we repeated the same performance only this time she let me take pics and video. She is definantely a keeper.

congrats.. definitely a keeper! :) bonus points if shes a freak and really likes sex.. and not just a young hottie. I've had a few of those type of encounters over the years and they are priceless!

[Mrmikers]

Searched her number and she seems like a legit provider, but can't find any other info like rates or reviews.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/o0oo-so-yummy-h-a-w-a-i-i-a-n-mixed-brunete-19/9342825

[JefferyC25]

Got a number from a reliable female friend who told me her really cute friend was in need of money. She has never done this before and does not want to be a pro but, if you want you can meet her. I asked for her photo (this conversation was done through text) a few minutes later I received a picture of what appeared to be a cute brunette. It was kind of grainy but she looked cute enough. I asked her when we could meet and we set something up for the next morning.

I texted her in the morning and she gave me directions and address (not two call system) just gave me her address and told me to come to the door.

I arrived and knocked. What happened next was right out of a fantasy. This young girl (18-19) appeared in the doorway, she was wearing a skirt and bra with a body of a tight teenager. She was HOT. I almost hit the floor.

She invited me in and we went to her room.

She took off her clothes and I followed. She had an UNREAL body. Flat stomach, nice C's still standing up legs that went on forever, nice manicured toes. She asked "do you want me to suck you" I said of course. So she started this amazing BBBJ for a couple of minutes until I was afraid I could not hold out anymore. So I rolled her over and asked if she had a cover. She said no. I was like. Ummmm what to do now? She asked me if I had anything? I said no. She said, you can still do it if you promise you don't have anything. The little head got the better of me and I had to.

It was like heaven. She looked young and felt younger. Literally tightest I have had in 20 years.

Couple of minutes into it and we are making out like school kids and I start feeling that urge. I asked where do you want me to cum?, She replied, you can cum inside me if you want. That did it. Couple of pumps later and I am filling her tight womb with the most cum I have spent in years.

Saw her a couple of days later and we repeated the same performance only this time she let me take pics and video. She is definantely a keeper.Share the wealth brother! She willing to see anyone else?

[MSN Man]

I will be visiting PHX area this coming week and was wondering if there are any good strools located in the west part of the valley ( will be out by surprise ) and was hoping to not need to drive over as far as Main in Mesa . Any leads would be great . Please PM or Post on list Thanks

[Gymcoach29]

I suppose it is no surprise given my last post. Of course, I understand the desire for me to share digits of such a find. I have several issues I would like to express.

1) Not to criticize this site, but so many posts are a lot about nothing, and then every once in a while, someone will write a decent report and say, PM me for digits if you are a senior member. While I understand the reasoning, me NOT being a senior member, gives me little reason to share with those who would not share with me in return if the tables were turned.

2) What is in it for me by sharing this girl? Only 1 person in the emails I received offered some information in return and what he offered, I was not interested in.

3) Why would I want to share the information on this girl and quite literally share her with who knows how many other guys?

4) How many hundreds of "events" happen daily that NO ONE every talks about on this site? There have got to be 10-20 girls on CL or Backpage that have ZERO reviews on this site. Are they not being seen? I don't think so. You people need to Give YOUR Reviews, info whatever before you expect others to give theirs.

I realize that there will be some who will call bullshit on my post...fine, no problem. I just wanted to share my experience because it truly was the best experience I have ever had and I plan on having more.

I also realize people will ask why did I share my story, if I had no plans of sharing the girl. Well quite simply, I personally would have enjoyed reading the story if I was not the one writing it.

Sorry, I don't mean to be a dick, but my guess is, most everyone in my shoes would not be sharing either.

[Az Dude]

that's why I didnt PM you or ask you to share digits.

I wouldnt share the info either if what you say in the story is true..
...the young friend of another friend... new to this in general the
whole thing. I'd keep it to myself.. esp if she's a 'non pro' as you say.

Ran into one like this in San Diego.. these things are generally 1-2 time
experiences, I savor them for what they are worth and move on..
or 'milk' them for all they're worth if it turns out to be a regular
thing.

see this post as an example..
http://usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=669661&postcount=302

Good luck with it, and all I can say is tap that as often as as much as
you can :) Then if you care to share the stories, then thats even better :)

[TylerPerelli]

Ditto what AZDude said.


that's why I didnt PM you or ask you to share digits.

I wouldnt share the info either if what you say in the story is true..
...the young friend of another friend... new to this in general the
whole thing. I'd keep it to myself.. esp if she's a 'non pro' as you say.

Ran into one like this in San Diego.. these things are generally 1-2 time
experiences, I savor them for what they are worth and move on..
or 'milk' them for all they're worth if it turns out to be a regular
thing.

see this post as an example..
http://usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=669661&postcount=302

Good luck with it, and all I can say is tap that as often as as much as
you can :) Then if you care to share the stories, then thats even better :)

[Tryinit]

Well said, on all points


I suppose it is no surprise given my last post. Of course, I understand the desire for me to share digits of such a find. I have several issues I would like to express.

1) Not to criticize this site, but so many posts are a lot about nothing, and then every once in a while, someone will write a decent report and say, PM me for digits if you are a senior member. While I understand the reasoning, me NOT being a senior member, gives me little reason to share with those who would not share with me in return if the tables were turned.

2) What is in it for me by sharing this girl? Only 1 person in the emails I received offered some information in return and what he offered, I was not interested in.

3) Why would I want to share the information on this girl and quite literally share her with who knows how many other guys?

4) How many hundreds of "events" happen daily that NO ONE every talks about on this site? There have got to be 10-20 girls on CL or Backpage that have ZERO reviews on this site. Are they not being seen? I don't think so. You people need to Give YOUR Reviews, info whatever before you expect others to give theirs.

I realize that there will be some who will call bullshit on my post...fine, no problem. I just wanted to share my experience because it truly was the best experience I have ever had and I plan on having more.

I also realize people will ask why did I share my story, if I had no plans of sharing the girl. Well quite simply, I personally would have enjoyed reading the story if I was not the one writing it.

Sorry, I don't mean to be a dick, but my guess is, most everyone in my shoes would not be sharing either.

[Azdecboy]

Bravo, Gymcoach29! Right on! Besides you mentioned that it was all fantasy, anyway, right? :)


I suppose it is no surprise given my last post. Of course, I understand the desire for me to share digits of such a find. I have several issues I would like to express.

1) Not to criticize this site, but so many posts are a lot about nothing, and then every once in a while, someone will write a decent report and say, PM me for digits if you are a senior member. While I understand the reasoning, me NOT being a senior member, gives me little reason to share with those who would not share with me in return if the tables were turned.

2) What is in it for me by sharing this girl? Only 1 person in the emails I received offered some information in return and what he offered, I was not interested in.

3) Why would I want to share the information on this girl and quite literally share her with who knows how many other guys?

4) How many hundreds of "events" happen daily that NO ONE every talks about on this site? There have got to be 10-20 girls on CL or Backpage that have ZERO reviews on this site. Are they not being seen? I don't think so. You people need to Give YOUR Reviews, info whatever before you expect others to give theirs.

I realize that there will be some who will call bullshit on my post...fine, no problem. I just wanted to share my experience because it truly was the best experience I have ever had and I plan on having more.

I also realize people will ask why did I share my story, if I had no plans of sharing the girl. Well quite simply, I personally would have enjoyed reading the story if I was not the one writing it.

Sorry, I don't mean to be a dick, but my guess is, most everyone in my shoes would not be sharing either.

[Chica Chaser]

that's why I didnt PM you or ask you to share digits.

I wouldnt share the info either if what you say in the story is true..
...the young friend of another friend... new to this in general the
whole thing. I'd keep it to myself.. esp if she's a 'non pro' as you say.

Ran into one like this in San Diego.. these things are generally 1-2 time
experiences, I savor them for what they are worth and move on..
or 'milk' them for all they're worth if it turns out to be a regular
thing.

see this post as an example..
http://usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=669661&postcount=302

Good luck with it, and all I can say is tap that as often as as much as
you can :) Then if you care to share the stories, then thats even better :)

What The Dude said!!!

[Bando]

What The Dude said!!!As someone not even close to a senior member then, That leaves no hope for newbies like me then but I do understand your desire to keep it close to your vest!

[Tooncinator]

As someone not even close to a senior member then, That leaves no hope for newbies like me then but I do understand your desire to keep it close to your vest!

I can say from experience:
1 read the fine forum to get a feel for how things work.
2 Start posting reviews.
3 Profit! (you become a senior member)

As a rule, there's no shortage of good intel in the public forums here even though there's an occasional slow period. Happy dreaming,

Tooncinator

[Gymcoach29]

I can say from experience:
1 read the fine forum to get a feel for how things work.
2 Start posting reviews.
3 Profit! (you become a senior member)

As a rule, there's no shortage of good intel in the public forums here even though there's an occasional slow period. Happy dreaming,

TooncinatorThere is a serious shortage of good intel. This site is free, There should be tons of reports for every girl on backpage and CL. There are quite a few reports on TER but you cannot see any decent info without paying. Why are we not reporting on the girls you see on this site? Why all the secret squirrel crap? It makes no sense, we could be moderating all of the scams and giving good business to the good ones.

I know the argument will be that LE in on here too..Dont know what to say to that other than, why report on ANY of them then?

[Badtz Maru]

There is a serious shortage of good intel. This site is free, There should be tons of reports for every girl on backpage and CL. There are quite a few reports on TER but you cannot see any decent info without paying. Why are we not reporting on the girls you see on this site? Why all the secret squirrel crap? It makes no sense, we could be moderating all of the scams and giving good business to the good ones.

I know the argument will be that LE in on here too..Dont know what to say to that other than, why report on ANY of them then?

Well, that's in part because the board is working as intended, in my opinion. If I find a girl I like to spend time with, I'll repeat. If I've already got a review up, why bother posting more of the same? I'm guessing a lot of guys do similar things, and may not feel the need to post a report on someone that's been reviewed already.

On that note, I've got a couple more to add, but will have to do so tomorrow.

[Scott17]

There is a serious shortage of good intel. This site is free, There should be tons of reports for every girl on backpage and CL.

And how many reports of bp and cl girls have you posted? Someone has to be the first to toftt so don't use that as an excuse.

Scott

[AZ Bound]

You could at least share some of the pics or vid, even if you want to keep the digits to yourself!! :)

[Gymcoach29]

won't show her face but for some eye candy. Here she is. For some reason though the camera does not do her justice.


You could at least share some of the pics or vid, even if you want to keep the digits to yourself!! :)

[Gymcoach29]

You could at least share some of the pics or vid, even if you want to keep the digits to yourself!! :)I posted some pics.

The close up is my load dripping out of her.

Sweet Jesus she is hot.

[Gun Runner]

I posted some pics.

The close up is my load dripping out of her.

Sweet Jesus she is hot.


I hate you.... LOL... :-)

[Hunter1]

I posted some pics.

The close up is my load dripping out of her.

Sweet Jesus she is hot.Wow. Nicely done dude but do yourself a favor and start wearing some cover because you don't know for sure how many other guys she is seeing already. Also that she is new to the business does not guarantee that she is clean.

I know its hard to argue with the little head. I've been there quite a few times. Be smart.

[Hunter1]

I am going out on a limb here, and supporting Gymcoach's decision not to give out info on the girl. If it was just fantasy, then WOW what a great read!

I sure the hell would not give the digits out if I had access to a Tabla Rasa pussy! Why go back to the diseased girls, and or corrupt this beautiful find with a bunch of sorry spoiled wieners!

I do agree that a pic would be nice, but beggars cannot be choosers here.

By the way I am thrilled with the activity in the foru; m, and would like to give a shout out to Hunter 1 for his fantastic reports recently!

Cheers

HbThanks for the shout out LOL.

BTW. HB. Enjoy her as much as possible but if she goes pro don't forget to let us know.

[Azfrnick]

I posted some pics.

The close up is my load dripping out of her.

Sweet Jesus she is hot.Glad you had fun. But I am with most here: why post a review if you don't post any intel?

Guess what... I have that chick that I see once in a while. She gives me FS for $100.

Why? Because it's her fantasy and I fuck her the way she likes.

Of course I call her names during the act, including the W and the S words, and that's what makes her "O".

The fact that I pay keeps all feelings on the side and we are good friends otherwise.

There is no chance in hell a 41 year old guy like me could have a girlfriend that hot and that young.

Guess what? I would never come over here and report about her, since she is not really in the business, does not advertise and would be livid if I gave her information, her name or even posted photos.

[Phreddieruxpin]

Glad you had fun. But I am with most here: why post a review if you don't post any intel?

Well said Azfrnick.

Man... I thought this forum was for us gentleman who enjoy the hobby to share experiences and give REVIEWS of the girls, to prevent scams and ripoffs, and to allow and assist us in finding the things that we're looking for.

Gymcoach, if you choose not to share the information then so be it... but why join this board and litter the forums just to try to prove a point? How is that helpful to anyone? I enjoy a good story just as much as the next man but not when it come with a "see, and that's why!"

And if you're so worried about your "status"...just continue to post REVIEWS, Ahem, I mean stories and useless debating/arguing posts and you'll be there in no time.

Just my two cents...

Nice pics by the way...good job.

[Bubba1979]

Okay. This could get Ol Bubba flamed but what the heck. Enough already with the "Treat her right" line. Seems like this has been cropping up more and more. In other words, I will treat her right if she treats me right. If not sorry.

Next subject; Still waiting on info on these two. Blond is Jesse from Old mesa massage days. Other one is Cassandra, infamous tease-a-holic rex.

So. One of them must have switched sides.

Cmon. Throw Ol Bubba a bone.


http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/ever-tried-2-ladies-at-once/5263441

[Azdecboy]

I believe starting today people can carry concealed weapons without permit here. This hobby is becoming more dangerous if you don't do your due diligence.

[Papa Rotzi]

Well, I think it's the Pimps and the cash and dash that ought to now be concerned. Beretta Tomcat, Kimber 45, Glock 19 . . .who knows what might be on my person now.


I believe starting today people can carry concealed weapons without permit here. This hobby is becoming more dangerous if you don't do your due diligence.

[Quipster]

Well, I think it's the Pimps and the cash and dash that ought to now be concerned. Beretta Tomcat, Kimber 45, Glock 19 . . .who knows what might be on my person now.

Exactly! The pimps and cash n dashers have been carrying all along, the law is of no consequence to them. It's us that are now empowered!

[Hummer Bird]

Exactly! The pimps and cash n dashers have been carrying all along, the law is of no consequence to them. It's us that are now empowered!Yes I agree, but is a 20.00 cash n dash worth getting into a gunfight for?
If so, then I recommend that all mongers invest in bullet proofing their cars.
Hospitals are expensive, but I do understand the urge to purge in all manners!

Cheers,

H B

[Dub Zub 1]

Exactly! The pimps and cash n dashers have been carrying all along, the law is of no consequence to them. It's us that are now empowered!You were always empowered by means of the 2nd Amendment and Arizona's own CC laws, but now lazy people that don't have a true sense of their own right's can have a pass. It's kinda disgusting that it takes something like this to open people's eyes.

[Azfrnick]

You were always empowered by means of the 2nd Amendment and Arizona's own CC laws, but now lazy people that don't have a true sense of their own right's can have a pass. It's kinda disgusting that it takes something like this to open people's eyes.

Yes you could go to classes and they would some common sense in your brain.

They just removed the common sense part out of the process.

On a side note I advised a provider not long ago on what to pack.

Will not tell you who :)

[Girlsonfilm]

Fun times.

A sampling from backpage and a local amp.

I cant post vid here. So this will have to do.

http://www.filedropper.com/f-in

[Az Dude]

Fun times.

A sampling from backpage and a local amp.
I cant post vid here. So this will have to do.
http://www.filedropper.com/f-in

Looks like you've been busy! :) I recognize two of those
gals (I think)

[2nd Chance]

Fun times.

A sampling from backpage and a local amp.

I cant post vid here. So this will have to do.

http://www.filedropper.com/f-in


File won't download for me.. :(

[Az Dude]

File won't download for me.. :(

Just took it quite a while to kick in and start. Filedropper seems pretty slow

[Daddio1542]

OK, I was able to download the movie but my player will not play it.

What format is it in?

[Master Bater69]

OK, I was able to download the movie but my player will not play it.

What format is it in?The movie isn't worth the effort I spent downloading it.

[Matrix Neo]

I go play at Casino AZ every once in a while, and the last few times I have been there, I swear I have seen working girls (from the streets or BP or CL, etc) hanging out there. I don't know if they were trying to work the casino or they just happened to be there. Interesting either way. This was over at 101 and McKellips.

[Bound For Fun]

I go play at Casino AZ every once in a while, and the last few times I have been there, I swear I have seen working girls (from the streets or BP or CL, etc) hanging out there. I don't know if they were trying to work the casino or they just happened to be there. Interesting either way. This was over at 101 and McKellips.One of my favorites likes to go to Casino AZ every time she has both a ride and some extra cash. She regularly ends up broke with no way home, so I always tell her to call me for a ride. It usually turns into a fun, inexpensive evening for me!

(And you're right; I usually see at least one or two others who look like they fall into that category, as well.)

[Matrix Neo]

I have talked to a couple guys about meeting women at the casinos, and apparently it's not just working girls. One guy I chatted with said he hung out with a chick who had been there by herself, and after a few hours, they ended up spending the night together at a motel. Lucky him. He actually met this chick at Casino AZ (McKellips).

A few years ago, I met a chick on the street in Mesa who wanted to go to Fort McDowell Casino. After hanging out there a couple hours, I drove her back to Mesa, where I spent an hour in her motel room having some fun with her before I went on my merry way.

Looking at the area casinos today, the one place I may check out on a weekend would be Wild Horse Pass. It actually has a couple nightclubs inside that are open Thu, Fri and Sat nights.

[Matrix Neo]

I ran into a blond girl in Chandler last night while at a gas station. We got to talking a little. She claims to be a dancer at Sonny's who does some escorting on the side. Unfortunately I forgot what her name was. I checked out BP to see if maybe she has an ad up. Didn't see anything, but there were a few nice looking girls that seem to do their incall in Chandler.

[NiceGuy Dayton]

This doesn't belong here, but I just feel like writing it. Sorry.

Ever since Sara Jessica Parker's character got a colonic several years back in a movie that I can't even remember, I've wondered what it would be like to have one. So earlier today, with the help of Google, I found a spa near me and set the GPS to find it. It was weird. I'm kind of fond of prostate massage so I thought this might be similar - WRONG. It was weird. Well at least now I can say that I did it. It was weird. And, like the tantra chick reported on elsewhere, at nearly a hundred bucks this was not the best value in town either. It was weird.

[Ricky Suerte]

This doesn't belong here, but I just feel like writing it. Sorry.

Ever since Sara Jessica Parker's character got a colonic several years back in a movie that I can't even remember, I've wondered what it would be like to have one. So earlier today, with the help of Google, I found a spa near me and set the GPS to find it. It was weird. I'm kind of fond of prostate massage so I thought this might be similar - WRONG. It was weird. Well at least now I can say that I did it. It was weird. And, like the tantra chick reported on elsewhere, at nearly a hundred bucks this was not the best value in town either. It was weird.

Dude, you should have googled "colonic" BEFORE you went there. (I think there are support groups to discuss your experience.)

[Quipster]

I see a couple cuties got busted, along with a driver and a pimp. Easy to find the cute blonde heidi and I know I've seen ads for the brunette because of the easily recognizable chest tatt but I couldn't find her ADs (didn't look very hard)

The smile on "Heidi's" mugshot tells me she has long accepted her role in life: working girl.

Watch and be careful when / if you see future ADs from these two.

Heidi's mug.

http://www.********.com/en/arrested/az-mcso/2010-10-05 / candace-marie-perret-p704004.

Heidi's AD

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/never-before-seen-pics-experience-the-finest-playmate-next-door-a-reviews-23/7079208.

Brunette's mug

http://www.********.com/en/arrested/az-mcso/2010-10-05 / chelsea-katrena-lheureux-p704005.

Pimp

http://www.********.com/en/arrested/az-mcso/2010-10-05 / joseph-russell-holcomb-p704002.

Driver

http://www.********.com/en/arrested/az-mcso/2010-10-05 / mark-h-de-la-gardie-p704001

[Daddio1542]

[QUOTE=Quipster; 1073390]I see a couple cuties got busted, along with a driver and a pimp. Easy to find the cute blonde heidi and I know I've seen ads for the brunette because of the easily recognizable chest tatt but I couldn't find her ADs (didn't look very hard)

The smile on "Heidi's" mugshot tells me she has long accepted her role in life: working girl.

Watch and be careful when / if you see future ADs from these two.

Brunette's mug

http://www.********.com/en/arrested/az-mcso/2010-10-05 / chelsea-katrena-lheureux-p704005.

I wonder if this is the same girl. Similar but I don't think so.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexgodess-100pecial-20/11548202.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/classifieds/ViewImage? Oid=11548202&image=oid%3A11548200.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/classifieds/ViewImage? Oid=11548202&image=oid%3A11548201

[Quipster]

Different tatt, same location

[Hummer Bird]

This doesn't belong here, but I just feel like writing it. Sorry.

Ever since Sara Jessica Parker's character got a colonic several years back in a movie that I can't even remember, I've wondered what it would be like to have one. So earlier today, with the help of Google, I found a spa near me and set the GPS to find it. It was weird. I'm kind of fond of prostate massage so I thought this might be similar. WRONG. It was weird. Well at least now I can say that I did it. It was weird. And, like the tantra chick reported on elsewhere, at nearly a hundred bucks this was not the best value in town either. It was weird. WTF? Of what value is this?

[Tooncinator]

WTF? Of what value is this?Fwiw, I found it of "some" value. I considered trying it awhile back while browsing for someone who does prostate massage on the West side (doesn't seem to be one who advertises, BTW.

After reading about it a little, it seemed about as erotic as getting earwax flushed out. Glad to have my hunch confirmed and save some cash.

Tooncinator

[Gcosta]

Well I am new to the site and to Phoenix and I want to say Hi to the people here so hopefully I get to meet some of you guys and have a good time. So Hi!

[Reallly Bored]

Put up a pic, and see what happens!

[Gcosta]

Put up a pic, and see what happens!Is there a way to post the picture right in the message or is it best doing the attachment? I'm still learning this site guys so please be patient with me alrighty?

[Gcosta]

Is there a way to post the picture right in the message or is it best doing the attachment? I'm still learning this site guys so please be patient with me alrighty?I did it. I didn't know it would attach like that! Hi guys and girls! Yes I like girls too! .

[Hotforty]

Hello, All,

I'll be visiting your fine city in the next couple of weeks and wondered if there may be some particular sights that come highly recommended? Feel free to pm if you like. TIA!

Lee

[Matrix Neo]

A few times I have seen girls on Arizona Ave between Pecos and Ray, and Chandler Blvd between Arizona and McQueen. Working girls, or girls that just happened to be there and maybe willing to get down and dirty. I believe the latter.

[Gcosta]

Hey Phoenix and everybody stopping by I am just saying Hi and have a fun and safe Saturday.

[Matrix Neo]

For those of you who visit this casino, I believe there is so much random action that could be available there. Between all the working girls that seem to go there and the women that spend way too much money and get stranded, there seem to be a lot of opportunities. Some of these chicks I've seen hang out by the main entrance begging for help to get a ride home. I think others just have casual conversations inside the casino and one thing leads to another. I made a comment to one of the cab drivers sitting out there about all the eye candy I have seen there recently, and he agreed with me on that.

[Chica Chaser]

I found this on another site and its so true!


1. No matter how great they look in the pictures, if they are under 30.
There is an 80% chance the pix are fake, they have gained 80 pounds, they will NCNS you, the service will be poor or they will bait and switch you. As always YMMV but 30+ years of experience says these rules need to be obeyed.

2. Pictures tell you a lot more than the size of their tits.

3. If they look like they are crazy in the picture, THEY ARE CRAZY.

4. If they look like a b* in the picture, THEY ARE A B*.

5. If they look like they should be on the cover of PLAYBOY, why aren't they.

6. A corollary to rule #5 is they will be so in love with themselves you won't exist.

7. If they can't write and can't spell there a good chance they can't do anything else.

8. If they don't list prices you're going to get cheated.

9. If the appointment is in a bad part of town you'll probably get lice, have a bad session and your car will either be gone or have the windows broken out when you leave.

10. GOOGLE and USASG are your best friends.

[Gymcoach29]

Who Hoo. I finally made it to Senior Member!

It has been a long road. But it feels kind of cool. Like I got inducted into some exclusive club.

Please don't take my post as me being facetious, or condesending. Just kind of cool it all.

[Kujo69]

For those of you who visit this casino, I believe there is so much random action that could be available there. Between all the working girls that seem to go there and the women that spend way too much money and get stranded, there seem to be a lot of opportunities. Some of these chicks I've seen hang out by the main entrance begging for help to get a ride home. I think others just have casual conversations inside the casino and one thing leads to another. I made a comment to one of the cab drivers sitting out there about all the eye candy I have seen there recently, and he agreed with me on that.I live very close, I think I need to check this out. I will report back.

[The Northman]

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/andandandandandhot-hot-latina-22/11767477

Can anyone tell me anything about this girl? I'm not local and m trying to get a fix on who's legit before I make it to town.

[Horndog722]

For those of you who visit this casino, I believe there is so much random action that could be available there. Between all the working girls that seem to go there and the women that spend way too much money and get stranded, there seem to be a lot of opportunities. Some of these chicks I've seen hang out by the main entrance begging for help to get a ride home. I think others just have casual conversations inside the casino and one thing leads to another. I made a comment to one of the cab drivers sitting out there about all the eye candy I have seen there recently, and he agreed with me on that.I've had good luck there with pros and non pros. I think the best was a Chinese girl that was at the west entrance by the cab stand and she was sitting on the sofa crying. Said she won $1200 then lost it all on the high stakes slots. Her friends got pissed at her and left her and she needed a ride home to and. Phoenix. Long story short it ended up being one of the nicest experiences I have had in many years. No digits, I'm keeping this one for myself. Don't worry, I could never get serious about a woman that gambles or does drugs, she doesn't do drugs but gambling is just as bad, it's just that she is the wildest nastiest fuck I have ever had.

[Gcosta]

To say congrats on being a senior member!


Who Hoo. I finally made it to Senior Member!

It has been a long road. But it feels kind of cool. Like I got inducted into some exclusive club.

Please don't take my post as me being facetious, or condesending. Just kind of cool it all.

[Iloveoral06]

To say congrats on being a senior member!Congrats! On becoming a senior member.

[Iloveoral06]

Fellow mongers I am visiting this week in Phoenix and have had the hardest time finding a provider that will to out call to SPH off of 16th. I'm looking for some good BBJCIM action if you have any recomendations please PM, I'll post my experiences as usual.

Thanks,

Tim

[Gcosta]

Fellow mongers I am visiting this week in Phoenix and have had the hardest time finding a provider that will to out call to SPH off of 16th. I'm looking for some good BBJCIM action if you have any recomendations please PM, I'll post my experiences as usual.

Thanks,

TimWhat is SPH and 16th? Now I have lived here in Phoenix my whole life, but I don't know where that is.

[Danimal Forth]

What is SPH and 16th? Now I have lived here in Phoenix my whole life, but I don't know where that is.Most likely South Phoenix. That's why nobody wants to go down there.

[Loaded Male]

Well I am new to the site and to Phoenix and I want to say Hi to the people here so hopefully I get to meet some of you guys and have a good time. So Hi!Just a big hug and welcome to you. I hope you get down to Casa Grande sometime and let me welcome you correctly with a big kiss and hug. Have a great time here in the Phoenix area

[Matrix Neo]

My guess is Squaw Peak Hilton, off 16th St between Glendale and Northern.


What is SPH and 16th? Now I have lived here in Phoenix my whole life, but I don't know where that is.

[TylerPerelli]

My guess is Squaw Peak Hilton, off 16th St between Glendale and Northern.That was my guess as well. Senior member, so not likely LE. Perhaps try some strip clubs for some dances, explain what you desire and request take out. Tim, PM and perhaps I can facilitate.

[Gcosta]

Just a big hug and welcome to you. I hope you get down to Casa Grande sometime and let me welcome you correctly with a big kiss and hug. Have a great time here in the Phoenix areaThats about 2 and half hours away and I will let you know if I do, but feel free to come visit me here in Phoenix too! Its hard for me to travel because I am in school.

[Gcosta]

My guess is Squaw Peak Hilton, off 16th St between Glendale and Northern.Oh ok, I know where both of those places are but which one is Iloveoral06 talking about. Maybe he will let us know. Still I appreciate you guys for giving me some idea. I kind of thought South Phoenix but I know thats not too good of area so.

[The Northman]

Can anyone tell me anything about this girl? I'm not local and m trying to get a fix on who's legit before I make it to town. I'll be in town in a week or so and need some info.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/mami-100-latina-22/11873863

She goes by Erika and uses the number. 602-507-5635.

[Shaved Cock]

Gents:

I've been seeing some recent posts on CL by couples looking for couples and an adult book store / theatre in Mesa called Personal Preference? Anyone been there? Nothing came up in a search here and Google.

- SC

[Shaved Cock]

Several hits:

House cleaning in Dallas:

http://dallas.listlux.com/a.103, 229550, house-cleaning. Htm.

Another ad with E-mail address:

http://eroticservices.********.com/escorts.php?do=view&p=1899306

Ad mentioning companion "Bebe":

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/latina-100hot-22/11882464

- SC.


Can anyone tell me anything about this girl? I'm not local and m trying to get a fix on who's legit before I make it to town. I'll be in town in a week or so and need some info.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/mami-100-latina-22/11873863

She goes by Erika and uses the number. 602-507-5635.

[Orangewood]

In town for the week, North Scottsdale near Pima and Dynamite. Do you all know anyone in the area worth checking out?

Thanks, brothers.

[Jack Clear]

Gents:

I've been seeing some recent posts on CL by couples looking for couples and an adult book store / theatre in Mesa called Personal Preference? Anyone been there? Nothing came up in a search here and Google.

- SCI believe this is a well known scam. The ads are posted by the bookstore.

[Horndog722]

A few times I have seen girls on Arizona Ave between Pecos and Ray, and Chandler Blvd between Arizona and McQueen. Working girls, or girls that just happened to be there and maybe willing to get down and dirty. I believe the latter.And it's cheap, I'm talking a Jackson for FS. There's a ghetto housing project at Chandler Blvd and McQueen. They walk back and forth to the Circle K and will do anything for enough to buy a rock. Some are actually cute and all are quite nasty and not afraid of body fluids, if you catch my meaning.

[Jack Clear]

And it's cheap, I'm talking a Jackson for FS. There's a ghetto housing project at Chandler Blvd and McQueen. They walk back and forth to the Circle K and will do anything for enough to buy a rock. Some are actually cute and all are quite nasty and not afraid of body fluids, if you catch my meaning.True enough, a while back I was walking from Chandler High to the 7-11 and I saw some old bastard getting his cane polished in the alley parallel to Arizona Ave.

[Higgs Boson]

In town for the week, North Scottsdale near Pima and Dynamite. Do you all know anyone in the area worth checking out?Yes.

Higgs

[Orangewood]

Yes.

HiggsNow that's the sort of help a fellow monger can be off and running with!

[Higgs Boson]

Now that's the sort of help a fellow monger can be off and running with!Hey, I've been to Chicago and I RTFF before I got there.

You originally asked a very general question and you got a very general answer. If you read back among the posts you would have noticed there aren't many posts here but there area lots of posts in the other threads. It works just like in Chicago. The forum members are generous with assisting both Valley residents and visitors who ask questions not answerable by reading threads. Let me re-phrase your original question with more specificity and which might get helpful responses if posted in the.appropriate- Phoenix thread:

"Hi, I'm visiting the area and staying in a location on the far outskirts of the Valley and the only holes I've found are on the nearby golf courses. I'm looking for an escort / AMP / SW / dancer / wingman willing to do incall / outcall / fetish / takeout / visitSC. I've scanned the past 3 months of posts to this thread and I can't find a reference to the particular kink / ethnicity / activity that floats my boat. I also looked through Backpage postings of the past couple of weeks and I found three providers who caught my eye. Has anyone had any experience with x, why, or z? (links to BP adverts listed below)"

That's the typical practice on the Chicago threads. It works that way in Phoenix too.

If you read through the Phoenix threads you'll find plenty of answers to your original question but if you make a more specific inquiry you may get additional information. I encourage you to do both.

One of my favorite activities is visiting SCs. If you want to meet I'd be glad to buy you a drink. The SC closest to you is likely to be the Candy Store on Cave Creek south of Loop 101, but there are other clubs which provide more thrills. I'm available most evenings, so drop me a PM is this sounds like a nice diversion.

Cheers!

Higgs

[AmanteDeLatina]

I believe this is a well known scam. The ads are posted by the bookstore.I can tell you it is not a scam because I have been there a few times. It is all it says. The best part is that it only costs $8 to get in! They actually cater to couples so that is why you see more women there than other adult book stores. There is a lot of gay stuff happening too though so you do have to put up with watching that in order to get the women. I have had issues with men grabbing my junk while I was in there and then me telling them that I am not into that so there are some bad things about it. It is at 9550 E Main St. In Mesa. It is like way out east. It is like a few blocks east of Ellsworth road on main street. It is hit and miss though, it is sort of a matter of luck when you go there. I have seen it with 5 women in the place performing and I have seen it as a sausage fest. Go there about midnite on Friday's and Saturdays for most of the action.

[Jack Clear]

I can tell you it is not a scam because I have been there a few times. It is all it says. The best part is that it only costs $8 to get in! They actually cater to couples so that is why you see more women there than other adult book stores. There is a lot of gay stuff happening too though so you do have to put up with watching that in order to get the women. I have had issues with men grabbing my junk while I was in there and then me telling them that I am not into that so there are some bad things about it. It is at 9550 E Main St. In Mesa. It is like way out east. It is like a few blocks east of Ellsworth road on main street. It is hit and miss though, it is sort of a matter of luck when you go there. I have seen it with 5 women in the place performing and I have seen it as a sausage fest. Go there about midnite on Friday's and Saturdays for most of the action.I rest my case.

[Dirty Old Guy]

Personal Preference also has "Couples Nights" on Tuesdays and Saturdays. They have 2 separate theaters showing porn videos (straight movies). One is blocked off for couples only from about 7PM till 11PM. After that, it's "All Skate" at both theaters (one admission price covers both theaters). It's surprising how many couples come in. But, Tempe Jon is correct, LOTS of gays. You almost have to carry a Louisville Slugger to beat off (no pun intended) all the gays there.


I can tell you it is not a scam because I have been there a few times. It is all it says. The best part is that it only costs $8 to get in! They actually cater to couples so that is why you see more women there than other adult book stores. There is a lot of gay stuff happening too though so you do have to put up with watching that in order to get the women. I have had issues with men grabbing my junk while I was in there and then me telling them that I am not into that so there are some bad things about it. It is at 9550 E Main St. In Mesa. It is like way out east. It is like a few blocks east of Ellsworth road on main street. It is hit and miss though, it is sort of a matter of luck when you go there. I have seen it with 5 women in the place performing and I have seen it as a sausage fest. Go there about midnite on Friday's and Saturdays for most of the action.

[AmanteDeLatina]

I have sometimes thought of buying a glow in the dark t-shirt that says "I Am Not Gay" on both the front and back. ROFL It reminds me of my friend who had a gym membership at a gym that happenned to be located in the gay area of town just because it was a convenient location for him from where he worked and he was having troubles with gay people propositioning him in the locker room. My friend is like a big, muscular type of guy that practically lives in the weight room looking sort of like Arnold Schwartzenegger. He finally bought himself a t-shirt that said "I Am Not Gay" on both sides and started wearing that to the gym when he worked out.


Personal Preference also has "Couples Nights" on Tuesdays and Saturdays. They have 2 separate theaters showing porn videos (straight movies). One is blocked off for couples only from about 7PM till 11PM. After that, it's "All Skate" at both theaters (one admission price covers both theaters). It's surprising how many couples come in. But, Tempe Jon is correct, LOTS of gays. You almost have to carry a Louisville Slugger to beat off (no pun intended) all the gays there.

[Anotheronedown]

I dunno. I checked it out late last night, and didn't see any gals in there. LOTS of guys. Perhaps it was just a bad night.


Personal Preference also has "Couples Nights" on Tuesdays and Saturdays. They have 2 separate theaters showing porn videos (straight movies). One is blocked off for couples only from about 7PM till 11PM. After that, it's "All Skate" at both theaters (one admission price covers both theaters). It's surprising how many couples come in. But, Tempe Jon is correct, LOTS of gays. You almost have to carry a Louisville Slugger to beat off (no pun intended) all the gays there.

[Reallly Bored]

Mostly a sausage fest when I was there. Did see one skinny redhead pimping herself out for $40 once.

[Dirty Old Guy]

Don't know how late you were there, but the "Couples Night" hours are from 8-11. Maybe you were there afterwards. And, Reallly Bored is right. Most of the time it is a sausage feast with a lot of TV's there as well. Make sure whoever grabs your package doesn't have a bigger package than you do. .


I dunno. I checked it out late last night, and didn't see any gals in there. LOTS of guys. Perhaps it was just a bad night.

[AmanteDeLatina]

I have found the thing to do at this place if you are single like I am so you are not allowed into the Couples Night area is to get there like maybe 5 minutes to 11 pm and then when they open the door to the other section some of the couples will stay over a while and you can watch and sometimes participate. I one time saw a lady asking men to cum on her face, she had 7 different men's cum on her face which she never wiped off. Her face was glazed in cum. I have gotten BJ's and HJ's there before. Never even had to pay for them, all free. You do have to put up with viewing gay sex acts though as a lot of the men there are gay or bi and perform. If you just tell them you are strictly straight they usually will not bother you though. They have glory holes that have women behind them too sometimes. Make sure you check who is on the other side of the glory hole though.


Don't know how late you were there, but the "Couples Night" hours are from 8-11. Maybe you were there afterwards. And, Reallly Bored is right. Most of the time it is a sausage feast with a lot of TV's there as well. Make sure whoever grabs your package doesn't have a bigger package than you do. .

[Dirty Old Guy]

If you are into that kind of theater action, then there is another theater / bookstore farther east (about 2 miles) on Apache Junction, but on the south side of the street. It is smaller, and not as crowded as Personal Preference, but still gets the same kind of action.


I have found the thing to do at this place if you are single like I am so you are not allowed into the Couples Night area is to get there like maybe 5 minutes to 11 pm and then when they open the door to the other section some of the couples will stay over a while and you can watch and sometimes participate. I one time saw a lady asking men to cum on her face, she had 7 different men's cum on her face which she never wiped off. Her face was glazed in cum. I have gotten BJ's and HJ's there before. Never even had to pay for them, all free. You do have to put up with viewing gay sex acts though as a lot of the men there are gay or bi and perform. If you just tell them you are strictly straight they usually will not bother you though. They have glory holes that have women behind them too sometimes. Make sure you check who is on the other side of the glory hole though.

[AmanteDeLatina]

What is the name of that place? Do you have an address? Cross Streets?


If you are into that kind of theater action, then there is another theater / bookstore farther east (about 2 miles) on Apache Junction, but on the south side of the street. It is smaller, and not as crowded as Personal Preference, but still gets the same kind of action.

[Bound For Fun]

If it's the place I'm thinking of, it's hard to miss. It's on the south side of Main Street, somewhere out around Ellsworth. (Either between Ellsworth and Crismon, or between Ellsworth and Sossoman.) Two-story gray building set back about 100 feet from the road with a somewhat secluded parking lot and a large sign that says "Adult Spa" in big block letters on a white background. I passed it for years driving to work, but it always looked too creepy to ever stop in.


What is the name of that place? Do you have an address? Cross Streets?This review on ripoff report would seem to confirm my suspicions:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/adult-book-stores/adult-pool-spa/adult-pool-spa-heads-up-ap-6w4f2.htm


This HIV dump of a Adult book store and Spa has been fined for just about everything under the sun. The county just came in and fined the owner for having "GLORYHOLES" in the video arcade. The owner is such a low life.

(John Williams) is always asking the customers (men) to have sex with him at the gloryholes and if they refuse he gets angry and kicks them out.

I have seen the owner tell women who walked in the door with their husband to " GET THAT * OUT OF HERE". NO WOMEN ALLOWED. There are small holes above the video booth's gee-surprise. Camera. The owner has a video feed to his home in Mesa Arizona. All the cameras in the place can be seen by this freak.

You think you are not watched. Think again. This place is under watch and so are you. Each and every time you park in the lot. There is a group that will drive thru the parking lot of this place and will take a photo your car and plate then post on the internet for all to view, because this place is so bad.

Try the fire exit. Not! Door nailed shut. This place is a fire trap. He needs to be shut down!

The place used to be a clean place with couples not now. NO WOMEN.

Tell the city, tell the county. To shut him down.

Only then will a new owner turn this place around.

[Dirty Old Guy]

It's the Erotic Emporium. 11405 Apache Trail. Like I said, it's about 2 miles east of Personal Preference, on the south side of the street. Small bookstore, arcade with Gloryholes and a small theater. I think it is a 24/7 operation.

Still a lot of sausage there, a few TV's and some couples go in to have "public" sex (either by themselves or with others). This is not a new thing. The adult theater scene, with couples and yes, single women too, going to porn theaters to have sex with others has been around since the late 60's.


What is the name of that place? Do you have an address? Cross Streets?

[Ashen]

Hey all, first time long time.

The reason for my post is to vent my frustration at the lack of quality pussy here in the valley. I know there are a few gems here and there but by and large the scene sucks here. My ATF moved away years ago and I've yet to find someone with her skills and physical attributes. I did meet one little hottie who was fresh out of the gate (just turned 18) a couple years back but upon a second visit I noticed track marks on her arms and bolted. For instance, this morning I was perusing a local board and was disgusted by what I saw. Every chick on there was either fat or way past her prime. Why the fuck would I take the risk and pick up a 40 year old overweight broad when I can go to the local watering hole without the risk? Literally, the first fifteen posts were either fat, worked over, or, God forbid, both. It has literally been impossible for me to meet and find what I'm looking for. (18-early twenties and HIGHLY sexual without losing an arm / leg.) it's not so much the investment but the quality isn't even here. I'm sure I'll get some negative feedback but goddamn! I'm fuckin pissed!

[Shaved Cock]

Gents:

A little off topic but I happened across one of the Philadelphia forums. They are actually having a photo contest of all the SW's they picked up in 2010 in a number of categories like Best Tits, Best Face, Best Cum Shot. Well worth checking out:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5976-Supereloquent-s-Reports-Philadelphia

Cheers. SC

[AmanteDeLatina]

I knew about that place. It is a place for gays. I went there once not knowing that and when I got there they had an adult swimming pool with a sign on the outside door that said it was only open to men. I am not into that. The person who owns it is certifiably insane. When I was in the video arcade area some gay guy stuck his dick through the glory hole. When I said I was not interested he flicked me off and muttered some sort of cursing words. After reading your ripoff report I wonder if that was the owner, he was an older man. I did not give him a chance to kick me out because after he put his dick in the hole I freaked out and left on my own. As I was leaving that older guy followed me out of the place. That place is a wretched place. It is a shame. It would be nice to have an adult swimming pool in the valley with males and females allowed. I agree with the sentiment in the rip off report that someone should turn him in so he loses his business license. The only issue is though that no one else would be allowed to operate it. The place is within the area of a school so Arizona law says no one can operate an adult establishment. Since his place was there before the law took place he gets an exemption. So if someone else bought it out they would have to have his name on the title somehow and he only allows gays inside for his own viewing pleasure. I guess the place should be closed down forever though so that decripid place can go!


If it's the place I'm thinking of, it's hard to miss. It's on the south side of Main Street, somewhere out around Ellsworth. (Either between Ellsworth and Crismon, or between Ellsworth and Sossoman.) Two-story gray building set back about 100 feet from the road with a somewhat secluded parking lot and a large sign that says "Adult Spa" in big block letters on a white background. I passed it for years driving to work, but it always looked too creepy to ever stop in.

This review on ripoff report would seem to confirm my suspicions:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/adult-book-stores/adult-pool-spa/adult-pool-spa-heads-up-ap-6w4f2.htm

[AmanteDeLatina]

I will have to try that one out. The adult theater scene seems to have simmered in Phoenix and the immediate surrounding area. Police have really cracked down so now the places really enforce the rules. Personal Preference, this place, and the wretched Adult Spa are actually in unincorporated area of Maricopa county techinically. Because of this they do not get patrolled as much. There is a strip club in that area too that is good to go to. Desert Flame is its name. Personal Preference gets more ladies than the others because it actually caters to couples. I will have to check out the Erotic Emporium.


It's the Erotic Emporium. 11405 Apache Trail. Like I said, it's about 2 miles east of Personal Preference, on the south side of the street. Small bookstore, arcade with Gloryholes and a small theater. I think it is a 24/7 operation.

Still a lot of sausage there, a few TV's and some couples go in to have "public" sex (either by themselves or with others). This is not a new thing. The adult theater scene, with couples and yes, single women too, going to porn theaters to have sex with others has been around since the late 60's.

[Bound For Fun]

I never knew that place was big enough to have more than a few videos inside! I actually lived off of Meridian, so I would pass it all the time. I think I stopped in once and didn't see much to catch my eye. (I'd rather go to Smokin' Lingerie or Castle Boutique for any hardware I need.)

For those of you not too familiar with the east valley, it's about 1/4 mile east of The Desert Flame (The Hottest Place on Earth) on the south side of Main (Apache Trail in AJ). It's small, like a double-wide trailer, and it's in a dirt parking lot. Easy to miss. If you get to Walgreens on the corner of Meridian and Main, you've gone a little too far.


It's the Erotic Emporium. 11405 Apache Trail. Like I said, it's about 2 miles east of Personal Preference, on the south side of the street. Small bookstore, arcade with Gloryholes and a small theater. I think it is a 24/7 operation.

Still a lot of sausage there, a few TV's and some couples go in to have "public" sex (either by themselves or with others). This is not a new thing. The adult theater scene, with couples and yes, single women too, going to porn theaters to have sex with others has been around since the late 60's.

[Gcosta]

Hey all, first time long time.

The reason for my post is to vent my frustration at the lack of quality pussy here in the valley. I know there are a few gems here and there but by and large the scene sucks here. My ATF moved away years ago and I've yet to find someone with her skills and physical attributes. I did meet one little hottie who was fresh out of the gate (just turned 18) a couple years back but upon a second visit I noticed track marks on her arms and bolted. For instance, this morning I was perusing a local board and was disgusted by what I saw. Every chick on there was either fat or way past her prime. Why the fuck would I take the risk and pick up a 40 year old overweight broad when I can go to the local watering hole without the risk? Literally, the first fifteen posts were either fat, worked over, or, God forbid, both. It has literally been impossible for me to meet and find what I'm looking for. (18-early twenties and HIGHLY sexual without losing an arm / leg.) it's not so much the investment but the quality isn't even here. I'm sure I'll get some negative feedback but goddamn! I'm fuckin pissed! I hope you have better time looking and searching I am sure its more of us girls that you like out there. I am local by the way and pretty much new to the scene. Happy Holidays.

[AmanteDeLatina]

I went to Personal Preference last night, never again. I had been there in the past and had seen great things but last night it was a shit hole. I got there at about 10:55 pm Paid my way into the theatre. I went into one of the theatres and there was some old ugly looking freak with like a pony tail who rudely told me to get out and go to the other side, that they were not ready yet and they would open it when they were ready. Now I do not mind them telling me that but hey, you can be polite about it. You do not have to be a rude asshole and tell it to me on a pretentious way, just politely tell me and I will go to the other side. When they finally got the other side open I went in there and the only lady that came was a lady that looked like she was in her late 60's and weighed about 400 pounds. She was with a guy and they were doing some sort of performance and a lot of guys went up there and started watching and jacking off there but to be honest with you this lady was so ugly that she would have to pay me to look at her goods. I had no desire to see her. She and the person she was with left very shortly, thank god. The place was then a sausage fest. I then left the theatre and went to the arcade section to see if anything was happening. There was a gal performing in one of the booths and there was a line of men there waiting to get in the booth next to her. I was in line with some of the other guys and then another older guy that worked there behind the cash register came out and said the bus was coming soon. I thought the guy was joking. A few minutes later he came out and told everyone in the line they could not be there loitering, they had to either be in a booth or in the theatre. What a jack ass. We were all in line for this lady who was performing. I suspect he was trying to get us out of there so that he could be the next in line so he could get his dick sucked. I went back into the theatre and it was still a sausage fest. I then went back to the arcade and the ugly asshole who had the pony tail who was rude to me when I first came in was coming out of the booth with a really sexy lady. I can not figure out how in the hell this ugly asshole ever got her in there. The other lady that was earlier performing then came out and went outside. I decided to go outside and get a breath of fresh air as nothing was happening in the place. When I got out there the ugly jerk with the pony tail glared me in the eye giving me a real bad vibe stare. The lady he was with had went to her vehicle for something and the other lady was taking off. I was just standing outside for some fresh air. I finally said to myself fuck this place and I took off. I went down the street to the Erotic Emporium and found nothing there. I ended up then at the Desert Flame where I had a really great dance from a dancer named Phoenix that you can read about in the Phoenix Strip Club section in my post. I think the action in the far east valley has dried up. It is no longer any good out there except for maybe the Desert Flame.

By the way, I have a very good close personal friend of mine that is a retired Arizona Department Of Public Safety State Patrolman and he has told me that the Maricopa county Sheriff is on to this place. He has some frieds that are stil in the force and he has talked to them. He says they are sending undercovers in there to try to find these sex acts and shut them down. Sheriff Arpaio really wants this place shut down. Be careful if you go there.

This place was once a good place for action but now has went down the shit hole. Avoid this place!

[Higgs Boson]

I went to Personal Preference last night, never again.

By the way, I have a very good close personal friend of mine that is a retired Arizona Department Of Public Safety State Patrolman and he has told me that the Maricopa county Sheriff is on to this place. He has some frieds that are stil in the force and he has talked to them. He says they are sending undercovers in there to try to find these sex acts and shut them down. Sheriff Arpaio really wants this place shut down. Be careful if you go there. Which probably means MCSO won't be doing anything until Sheriff Joe is up for re-election in 2012. Have you noticed that the Sheriff's department has very visible prostitution sweeps in the Spring of election years? They'll probably save Personal Preference 'til then to show the voters how they're cleaning up the county and protecting our families.

Higgs

[Flyby Nightowl]

Hey all, first time long time.

The reason for my post is to vent my frustration at the lack of quality pussy here in the valley. I know there are a few gems here and there but by and large the scene sucks here. My ATF moved away years ago and I've yet to find someone with her skills and physical attributes. I did meet one little hottie who was fresh out of the gate (just turned 18) a couple years back but upon a second visit I noticed track marks on her arms and bolted. For instance, this morning I was perusing a local board and was disgusted by what I saw. Every chick on there was either fat or way past her prime. Why the fuck would I take the risk and pick up a 40 year old overweight broad when I can go to the local watering hole without the risk? Literally, the first fifteen posts were either fat, worked over, or, God forbid, both. It has literally been impossible for me to meet and find what I'm looking for. (18-early twenties and HIGHLY sexual without losing an arm / leg.) it's not so much the investment but the quality isn't even here. I'm sure I'll get some negative feedback but goddamn! I'm fuckin pissed! I feel your frustration. I travel a lot luckily, and get to experience many better places. I've been stuck in the valley a few times, and most is way overpriced, escorts, strip clubs and massage, all of them. Been enjoying my time in so cal, (AMP w / GFE for $.5 total as an example) it's about the only thing so cal has going for it, but best area I've found is the great NW. Great value there, just don't get up that way often enough. Also made a couple of trips recently south of the border to Tijuana, great value there.

[Chica Chaser]

Hey all, first time long time.

The reason for my post is to vent my frustration at the lack of quality pussy here in the valley. I know there are a few gems here and there but by and large the scene sucks here.
(18-early twenties and HIGHLY sexual without losing an arm / leg.) it's not so much the investment but the quality isn't even here. I'm sure I'll get some negative feedback but goddamn! I'm fuckin pissed!

Really? Lack of quality pussy, in Phoenix? You must be kidding! Perhaps you need to upgrade your search venues.

Phoenix is absolutely one of the best cities in the country for quality pussy, and I travel all over. There are so many quality ladies in this city I'm quite surprised to see this attitude. Anything and anyone you could possibly want is readily available at every price level.

Ms Costa, would be a good place to start for your preferences, she responded just below.

Since you are so fucking pissed, it sounds like you need to calm down and learn how to search the various boards before parting with any more of your cash. Way to come out of the gate swinging with your first post!

[Fishon]

Really? Lack of quality pussy, in Phoenix? You must be kidding! Perhaps you need to upgrade your search venues.

Phoenix is absolutely one of the best cities in the country for quality pussy, and I travel all over. There are so many quality ladies in this city I'm quite surprised to see this attitude. Anything and anyone you could possibly want is readily available at every price level.

Ms Costa, would be a good place to start for your preferences, she responded just below.

Since you are so fucking pissed, it sounds like you need to calm down and learn how to search the various boards before parting with any more of your cash. Way to come out of the gate swinging with your first post! Well, I have to agree with CC. I am in Albuquerque and we have maybe 6 quality local companions.

We get a lot of BS backpage travelers with no reviews and, most are safety girls.

We are lucky though to have a great little local board that helps to bring in quite a few traveling upscale companions.

I have checked the major boards, backpage ads, etc of Phoenix. You guys have got it good. If you don't realize that then come and stay in Albuquerque for a while to get some gratitude.

Fishon

[Solntsevskaya]

I'm curious as to how many members here that are police and or snitches. I saw a post in the banned members section from some dude named Samsoni tell the police to contact him so he can rat providers out. LOL quite funny!

http://www.USASexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?5095-Banned-Users-List&p=1103604&viewfull=1#post1103604

I wonder how many of why'all are affiliated with police

[Gcosta]

I feel your frustration. I travel a lot luckily, and get to experience many better places. I've been stuck in the valley a few times, and most is way overpriced, escorts, strip clubs and massage, all of them. Been enjoying my time in so cal, (AMP w / GFE for $.5 total as an example) it's about the only thing so cal has going for it, but best area I've found is the great NW. Great value there, just don't get up that way often enough. Also made a couple of trips recently south of the border to Tijuana, great value there.Hey there Flyby, I am a local girl yeah I am new, but I very good at having a good time. Just waiting for someone to pop my usasexguide cherry!

[Gcosta]

Really? Lack of quality pussy, in Phoenix? You must be kidding! Perhaps you need to upgrade your search venues.

Phoenix is absolutely one of the best cities in the country for quality pussy, and I travel all over. There are so many quality ladies in this city I'm quite surprised to see this attitude. Anything and anyone you could possibly want is readily available at every price level.

Ms Costa, would be a good place to start for your preferences, she responded just below.

Since you are so fucking pissed, it sounds like you need to calm down and learn how to search the various boards before parting with any more of your cash. Way to come out of the gate swinging with your first post! Have fun traveling, thank for giving me the shout out.

[NoNameDefense]

I am sitting in the lobby of a hotel using the house computer.

For those that are apprehensive about posting and want to donate, give it a shot. Watch out for the computers that block sites such as this.

[Dirty Old Guy]

Jon,

It sounds like you got your feelings hurt by the guy with the pony tail. Both he, and the guy who told you not to loiter in the arcade work there and they are just following the rules that Ray (the owner) has in place.

There is an 8-12 time for couples only on Tues and Sat, but if it runs over that time, then it is at their discresion. It is their theater. They make the rules.

As for being told not to loiter in the arcade, you will be told that in any adult arcade anywhere you go. If you go in the management expects you to put money in the machines, not hang around hoping to get lucky (with guys OR girls).

I'm not getting on your case. I've worked in adult theater / bookstore / arcades before and those rules have been in place in every place I know of. For years.


I went to Personal Preference last night, never again. I had been there in the past and had seen great things but last night it was a shit hole. I got there at about 10:55 pm Paid my way into the theatre. I went into one of the theatres and there was some old ugly looking freak with like a pony tail who rudely told me to get out and go to the other side, that they were not ready yet and they would open it when they were ready. Now I do not mind them telling me that but hey, you can be polite about it. You do not have to be a rude asshole and tell it to me on a pretentious way, just politely tell me and I will go to the other side. When they finally got the other side open I went in there and the only lady that came was a lady that looked like she was in her late 60's and weighed about 400 pounds. She was with a guy and they were doing some sort of performance and a lot of guys went up there and started watching and jacking off there but to be honest with you this lady was so ugly that she would have to pay me to look at her goods. I had no desire to see her. She and the person she was with left very shortly, thank god. The place was then a sausage fest. I then left the theatre and went to the arcade section to see if anything was happening. There was a gal performing in one of the booths and there was a line of men there waiting to get in the booth next to her. I was in line with some of the other guys and then another older guy that worked there behind the cash register came out and said the bus was coming soon. I thought the guy was joking. A few minutes later he came out and told everyone in the line they could not be there loitering, they had to either be in a booth or in the theatre. What a jack ass. We were all in line for this lady who was performing. I suspect he was trying to get us out of there so that he could be the next in line so he could get his dick sucked. I went back into the theatre and it was still a sausage fest. I then went back to the arcade and the ugly asshole who had the pony tail who was rude to me when I first came in was coming out of the booth with a really sexy lady. I can not figure out how in the hell this ugly asshole ever got her in there. The other lady that was earlier performing then came out and went outside. I decided to go outside and get a breath of fresh air as nothing was happening in the place. When I got out there the ugly jerk with the pony tail glared me in the eye giving me a real bad vibe stare. The lady he was with had went to her vehicle for something and the other lady was taking off. I was just standing outside for some fresh air. I finally said to myself fuck this place and I took off. I went down the street to the Erotic Emporium and found nothing there. I ended up then at the Desert Flame where I had a really great dance from a dancer named Phoenix that you can read about in the Phoenix Strip Club section in my post. I think the action in the far east valley has dried up. It is no longer any good out there except for maybe the Desert Flame.

By the way, I have a very good close personal friend of mine that is a retired Arizona Department Of Public Safety State Patrolman and he has told me that the Maricopa county Sheriff is on to this place. He has some frieds that are stil in the force and he has talked to them. He says they are sending undercovers in there to try to find these sex acts and shut them down. Sheriff Arpaio really wants this place shut down. Be careful if you go there.

This place was once a good place for action but now has went down the shit hole. Avoid this place!

[Duckman77]

I went to Personal Preference last night, never again.Over the past several years, I've been to Personal Preference maybe 6 or 7 times. I have no desire to ever go back. Other than one visit where a M / F couple did come in and put on a very public show, the place is mostly older gay guys wacking themselves or giving extras to each other. Not my interest. The place is over-run with guys looking for meat. Plus, I was a bit paranoid about how clean the couches were and how often they're cleaned.

I think it's obvious that Personal Preference is being left along by LE or maybe they're outside the jurisdictions. Given that they operate so out in the open with no apparent LE interference, it seems like the ideal place for a few SWs to work. But maybe the guys running the place would chase them off.

The bookstore and DVD rental shelves are a joke and are probably just a facade for their profitmaker, the theatres.

[Bumperdude]

About to begin frequent business trips to Phoenix. Heard the casinos were okay to hang out at, and that a few nice ladies can be found there. Any insights?

[Member #4143]

Greetings Gentlemen,

With all due respect, I would very much appreciate it if you would not use my forum to publicly solicit or exchange information on how to find and/or use my competitor's website(s).

Thanks,

Jackson

[AmanteDeLatina]

I just had a pretty good experience. I hired a young lady to come clean my house in the nude. Her name was Racquel. She is 29 years old.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/hss/2258994455.html

Racquel is not bad looking. If you e-mail her from the craigslist ad she will send you a picture. A clothed picture. She does a real good job cleaning too. Her rates are not bad at $50 an hour. Some regular house cleaners charge that. It is a good way to have some scenery while you house is cleaned.

She will not do extras. The most you can do while she is in your house is get nude yourself if you wish and relieve yourself. She does not mind if you do that. She is very friendly. I recommend her for cleaning. It was a good experience.

[Chica Chaser]

Gentlemen, there is a lady that I have known for some time now that is looking for a select few good men. Without going into a lot of detail, she is a retired HDH provider now living in the valley.

She has some very specific requirements due to family concerns;

Absolutely must remain under the radar, no advertising, no reviews, no public discussions about her, total discretion.

Can only meet at your place or a local hotel

Will only meet gentlemen that are well-established and completely trustworthy.

Also, she's looking to establish more regular, longer-term clients.

In exchange, you will meet one of the most sensuous ladies I have ever known. Mid 40's. 5'7" 120lbs very slender with a body that could easily pass for mid 20's. She also has several older T e are reviews for a better idea. She has asked me to put out the word that she is interested in restarting business in a very limited way.

If you are a very senior member that I know or would easily recognize, please PM me and I will fill in all the blanks and give you her contact info. Sorry to be a little cryptic, but its critical that you be an established and experienced member here, no newbies need apply.

[Tonylove465]

I live in Indianapolis. I am coming out to PHX next week. Can someone please tell me what is KittyKats? And how does that and some of the other clubs operate? Please feel free to PM me. Please / Thank you.

TonyLove

[Higgs Boson]

I live in Indianapolis. I am coming out to PHX next week. Can someone please tell me what is KittyKats? And how does that and some of the other clubs operateIn short: stay away.

That area of University Drive near the airport is infamous for little places that hint of sexy payoffs but are trying to separate you from your money for nothing in return. In fact, in at least one reported instance a visitor decided to not pay money, tried to leave but was threatened by a manager / owner / thug.

In a similar vein, stay away from Dream Palace in Scottsdale.

Higgs

[Jack Clear]

In short: stay away.

In a similar vein, stay away from Dream Palace in Scottsdale.

HiggsSo true. My first and only experience with Dream Palace, I roll up and pay the $10 cover with a $20. I peek in to look at the girls while I'm waiting for my change and I notice the door girl isn't handing me anything. I ask her for my cash and she says,"You gave me a $10." She's just standing there smirking. I tell her she must be mistaken, she doesn't even argue, she just calls the bouncer and says,"Hey this guy is drunk and thinks he gave me a $20 when he didn't."

Burn.

[Tonylove465]

I live in Indianapolis. I am coming out to PHX next week. Can someone please tell me what is KittyKats? And how does that and some of the other clubs operate? Please feel free to PM me. Please / Thank you.

TonyLoveGentlemen, I "THANK YOU" for the input. That is exactly why this forum is in place. Nice Job! I thought it looked TGTBT. That's why I asked. But you never know. I had a friend just come back from LA, and the club he was in had very few rules. Ya just never know.

If you everymake it the the 'WORLD CLASS CITY" of Indianapolis, ask-a-way?

[Jo Kuz]

Can anyone help me out, facing a little delimma, need to know if there are any places in the Phoenix area where you can get rooms by the hour (or 2 or 3). I'm originally from the east coast, (Philly area) and they are pretty common, usually run $10-20 cash deal (no signing or credit cards required) , but don't know of any in this area and will be in need of somethng of this sort on Monday. Any help appreciated.

[Ricky Suerte]

Can anyone help me out, facing a little delimma, need to know if there are any places in the Phoenix area where you can get rooms by the hour (or 2 or 3). I'm originally from the east coast, (Philly area) and they are pretty common, usually run $10-20 cash deal (no signing or credit cards required) , but don't know of any in this area and will be in need of somethng of this sort on Monday. Any help appreciated.I think they got rid of those a few years ago. Unless, there is one operating under the radar.

[Azdecboy]

Not sure if this is the right topic, but what the heck.

Whenever I see a provider, it's difficult for me to get hard, maybe due to some kind of nervousness from guilt / anxiety / etc. So when I went to Sprouts, I saw this Advanced Yohimbe-Plus "Pump Up Your Power in Bed". It was on sale. So I bought, and took 2 capsules to try out. After 2-3 hours, it started to work. Then I started to masturbate, my member got so hard like never before, then I ejaculated 3 times, one after another! My penis stayed strong (Now I know Bubba thinks he wanted to try due to recent experience, but hold on.) But my heart kept pumping harder and faster, then I got nausea, wanting to puke, and terrible headache. I almost went to ER. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't get up, my head spinned. After a long night, finally it got better. I was fine after about 8 hours. Looking back, I won't try it again. So, moral of the story: this stuff is dangerous!

[Bubba1979]

Not sure if this is the right topic, but what the heck.

Whenever I see a provider, it's difficult for me to get hard, maybe due to some kind of nervousness from guilt / anxiety / etc. So when I went to Sprouts, I saw this Advanced Yohimbe-Plus "Pump Up Your Power in Bed". It was on sale. So I bought, and took 2 capsules to try out. After 2-3 hours, it started to work. Then I started to masturbate, my member got so hard like never before, then I ejaculated 3 times, one after another! My penis stayed strong (Now I know Bubba thinks he wanted to try due to recent experience, but hold on.) But my heart kept pumping harder and faster, then I got nausea, wanting to puke, and terrible headache. I almost went to ER. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't get up, my head spinned. After a long night, finally it got better. I was fine after about 8 hours. Looking back, I won't try it again. So, moral of the story: this stuff is dangerous!Oh my God. I actually tried that stuff once my damn self! Exact same symptoms! My heart was racing and my head felt like it was going to explode. Unfortunately, I was at home and trying to mask my symptoms in front of the wife. I threw that crap out fast! Bad mistake that was! I had forgotten all about it until your post. Thanks for the laugh, I needed it. Funny thing though, it never did help the pecker. Strange.

[Arizona Junkie]

Can anyone help me out, facing a little delimma, need to know if there are any places in the Phoenix area where you can get rooms by the hour (or 2 or 3). I'm originally from the east coast, (Philly area) and they are pretty common, usually run $10-20 cash deal (no signing or credit cards required) , but don't know of any in this area and will be in need of somethng of this sort on Monday. Any help appreciated.There is a place in Scottsdale that advertises every once in awhile on BP. It's a private condo with everything provided, and the hourly rate is very reasonable. Never used it, but the photos look very nice. Haven't seen their ads in awhile, but it was called secretpleasures or secretplace, or something like that. It looks like they are specifically marketing it for short term get togethers.

Good luck!

[Azmysterious]

Not sure if this is the right topic, but what the heck.

Whenever I see a provider, it's difficult for me to get hard, maybe due to some kind of nervousness from guilt / anxiety / etc. So when I went to Sprouts, I saw this Advanced Yohimbe-Plus "Pump Up Your Power in Bed". It was on sale. So I bought, and took 2 capsules to try out. After 2-3 hours, it started to work. Then I started to masturbate, my member got so hard like never before, then I ejaculated 3 times, one after another! My penis stayed strong (Now I know Bubba thinks he wanted to try due to recent experience, but hold on.) But my heart kept pumping harder and faster, then I got nausea, wanting to puke, and terrible headache. I almost went to ER. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't get up, my head spinned. After a long night, finally it got better. I was fine after about 8 hours. Looking back, I won't try it again. So, moral of the story: this stuff is dangerous!Should have abided by the warnings that they spout off on all of the E. D. Commercials."if your erection lasts longer than 4 hours, seek medical attention". Glad to know everything is ok now, but increased heartrate, nausea, headache. Those aren't good things.

[Shoot Loads]

Not sure if this is the right topic, but what the heck.

Whenever I see a provider, it's difficult for me to get hard, maybe due to some kind of nervousness from guilt / anxiety / etc. So when I went to Sprouts, I saw this Advanced Yohimbe-Plus "Pump Up Your Power in Bed". It was on sale. So I bought, and took 2 capsules to try out. After 2-3 hours, it started to work. Then I started to masturbate, my member got so hard like never before, then I ejaculated 3 times, one after another! My penis stayed strong (Now I know Bubba thinks he wanted to try due to recent experience, but hold on.) But my heart kept pumping harder and faster, then I got nausea, wanting to puke, and terrible headache. I almost went to ER. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't get up, my head spinned. After a long night, finally it got better. I was fine after about 8 hours. Looking back, I won't try it again. So, moral of the story: this stuff is dangerous! A lot of that stuff will totally elevate your heart rate up. Two caplets of what you took seems to give everyone the same symptoms.

[Matrix Neo]

I've seen previous posts about some of you guys finding these gems out there. I haven't been actively looking for girls on the streets lately. I've tried to focus more on chicks from various online and phone places. Mixed results so far.

[Boogaloo Sam]

I've seen it a million times. A review posted with a link to the provider but no pictures posted. In another 2-3 months. 1 year, or day and a half that link is no longer valid. Providers will also change names so no pic, and there may no longer be a decent reference back.

Post a name and picture and that review is golden as reference even years down the road so long as this board is maintained. Otherwise you may be wasting everyone's time. This gripe was brought to you by,

Sam

[Pepe57]

I think they keep this stuff locked up at the Hi Health Food Store. I tried it in the past but now since Heart Attack I would not try again. Since prostate removal been using V. Only thing with that is sort of a blue haze in vision. BP and heart rate seem uneffected. Sometimes take 250 mg in 24 hr period if I want to have MSOG. Fun! I miss Tasha.


Not sure if this is the right topic, but what the heck.

Whenever I see a provider, it's difficult for me to get hard, maybe due to some kind of nervousness from guilt / anxiety / etc. So when I went to Sprouts, I saw this Advanced Yohimbe-Plus "Pump Up Your Power in Bed". It was on sale. So I bought, and took 2 capsules to try out. After 2-3 hours, it started to work. Then I started to masturbate, my member got so hard like never before, then I ejaculated 3 times, one after another! My penis stayed strong (Now I know Bubba thinks he wanted to try due to recent experience, but hold on.) But my heart kept pumping harder and faster, then I got nausea, wanting to puke, and terrible headache. I almost went to ER. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't get up, my head spinned. After a long night, finally it got better. I was fine after about 8 hours. Looking back, I won't try it again. So, moral of the story: this stuff is dangerous!

[Az Dude]

I've seen previous posts about some of you guys finding these gems out there. I haven't been actively looking for girls on the streets lately. I've tried to focus more on chicks from various online and phone places. Mixed results so far.Agree with the mixed results. IMHO there's always a bit too much 'drama' there.

When you find one or *two* it's great to have a stable. But contrasted with.
Working girls, there is always a bit of 'maintenance' there.

Had the ideal situ at work. Frustrated coworker started banging on the side.
About 4 years ago. Whenever we'd go out of town for work related functions.

I could tell, there was always this 'sexual tension' between us. At a conference.
a year back. I finally stepped over the line. The rest of that trip was a blur of
sex. Break from the presentations. Head up to the room and fuck. Squirter
too. Sheesh she could wear me out. There are not too many ladies that can.
do that to me. It's usually the opposite.

We had a good 6 months of 'coffee breaks'. She definitely could not get
enough, and had another guy (never met him) that would set up a room for her.
He would hit it before work. Which only got her more juiced / amped up for our
sessions. That was a one or two times per month thing, till her husband found
out. DOH! (fortunately about the other guy and not about me.
To keep her sanity though we are now strictly platonic. Although at anytime.
it's kind of fun to meet for lunch and do the 'fuck me with your eyes' kind of.
thing. The attraction / tension is still there. I hope her husband is taking care.
of her.

Another case of a 21yr old. This one is a short, (sub 5 ft) spinner. She's not.
off the hook nympho material like the previous MILF, but anytime you can just
pick them up and put them where you want them; 0 makes for some great sex.

Again. Too much drama though, and the chick has a serious weed habit, which I.
don't really care to help fund, or partake in. She actually does webcaming now.
to pay the bills but I've not tried to contact her. Sometimes it's just best to move.
on before things get 'messy'.

Tried ashley madison for a month. It actually was a somewhat decent site, and I.
had several connections through it. (there are a lot of middle aged, sexually.
frustrated women out there! .

Out of the 4-6 solid connections. E. G. Chats, trading texts and emails back and
forth, only one hookup. Lasted for a few months, then she got weird.
out of the blue, I get a text months later and she wants to fuck again.
I hit it one last time, and that was it. Moved on.

Other *near* connections, but there would always be something that got in the way from 'meeting up'.
I seriously think some of these gals just like the attention. They don't have any.
real plans on hooking up. They want to be seduced, romance etc: Screw that.
noise. If I want to work at it. I'll seduce / romance my wife.

IMHO It's too much work, for too little benefit. That's the great thing about
A true working girl. You pay, you fuck, maybe a few times. Then they leave.

[Bubba1979]

[QUOTE=Az Dude; 1178271]Agree with the mixed results. IMHO there's always a bit too much 'drama' there.

Excellent analysis! The only thing I would ad is another category of women that I have met in my "travels." This would be the middle aged MILF posting in the massage section in hopes of meeting a guy. I have met several ladies now who seem to fit this mold. They live in nice neighborhoods alone and are dying for companionship. Because of their age or weight they do not get many 'hits" on dating websites. So, they post in Body-rubs and get paid to have fun.

Generally after a couple of paid visits, you start getting it free. Again, this usually is only older and slightly heavy women, not young good looking ones. (Speaking of older and not good looking, where has Chilly Willy been lately?)

Anyway, Seniors PM for more info on a couple of Milfs who fit this category.

[Chilly Willy]

Generally after a couple of paid visits, you start getting it free. Again, this usually is only older and slightly heavy women, not young good looking ones. (Speaking of older and not good looking, where has Chilly Willy been lately?)Older and not good looking. You left out "broke."

[Play Naked]

Oh my God. I actually tried that stuff once my damn self! Exact same symptoms! My heart was racing and my head felt like it was going to explode. Unfortunately, I was at home and trying to mask my symptoms in front of the wife. I threw that crap out fast! Bad mistake that was! I had forgotten all about it until your post. Thanks for the laugh, I needed it. Funny thing though, it never did help the pecker. Strange.I've never had any problems with Yohimbe. I don't really have any ED issues, and have used supplements to give me more staying and recuperative power.

There are 2 supplements I like and work for me:

"Nature's Bounty Power V":

Amount per Serving % Daily Value.

Niacin (B3) (as Nicotinic Acid) 45 mg 225%

Guarana Extract Paullina cupana (seed) Standardized to contain 22% caffeine 300 mg*

Yohimbe Extract Pausinystalia yohimbe (bark) Standardized ot contain 2% yohimbine 750 mg*

Taurine 200 mg*

Oat Extract (Avena sativa) (aerial) 150 mg*

Saw Palmetto Extract (Serenoa repens) (fruit) 100 mg*

Testicular Extract (Raw) (Orchic Substance) 50 mg*

Ginkgo Biloba Extract (Ginkgo biloba) (leaf) (Standardized to contain 24% Ginkgo Flavone Glycosides) 40 mg*

Eleuthero Siberian Root (Eleutherococcus senticosus) (root) 30 mg*

* Daily Value not established.

The above is based on 2 tablets. I usually am fine with 1 tablet.

"Men Of Iron" is a propriety blend of Horny Goat Weed Herb, Gota Kola Root, Maca and Tumeric Root Powder. No Yohimbe. An additional plus is that "Men Of Iron" is available at most 99 Cent Only stores for a buck for a 30 tablet bottle.

I can take one or the other, but not both together. For some reason, taking both together gives me the same side effects many of you describe from Yohimbe.

[Bubba1979]

Okay. Couple different things here. First of all, saw this one today outside of her normal area of operations. She was shopping and I thought she looked familiar. VERY nice ass in person. Seemed nice as well. Kinda a Demi Moore thing going on.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/kimber-22/12153714

Secondly, paid another visit to Eiizabeth. This is a flat out value for cash strapped mongers. The massage is far above average, and she is grateful for any tip at all. The area is not so good, but the experience is top notch.

Almost like a dog you find at the shelter. Shivering and more than willing to please. .4 for an hour and a half plus. Gratuities are at your discretion, but not mandatory.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/late-night-great-night-for-glute-special-15-hour-only-4500/13619348

This was my third time and I got "upgraded" beyond a hand dream. Awesome.

Happy Fathers Day to all you mongers. Even Dick North!

[Surffoam]

Have any of you checked out the MyRedBook site? It seemed to get it's start in Ca, but last time I looked at it, I noticed that they have a listing for Phoenix now, and there is a few postings there.

[Matrix Neo]

Some quick hits, based on observations over the past few weeks:

- Tonight on a phone chat line, all kinds of chicks were on looking for "generous men".

- Casino AZ on McKellips seems to have a lot of working and non-working girls visit.

- Sometimes it's possible to get offers from random girls off the street. Met a spinner last week around bar closing time at QT on 27th Ave and Northern. Led to me going back to her place. May visit in the future.

[Horndog722]

Okay. Couple different things here. First of all, saw this one today outside of her normal area of operations. She was shopping and I thought she looked familiar. VERY nice ass in person. Seemed nice as well. Kinda a Demi Moore thing going on.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/kimber-22/12153714

Secondly, paid another visit to Eiizabeth. This is a flat out value for cash strapped mongers. The massage is far above average, and she is grateful for any tip at all. The area is not so good, but the experience is top notch.

Almost like a dog you find at the shelter. Shivering and more than willing to please. .4 for an hour and a half plus. Gratuities are at your discretion, but not mandatory.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/late-night-great-night-for-glute-special-15-hour-only-4500/13619348

This was my third time and I got "upgraded" beyond a hand dream. Awesome.

Happy Fathers Day to all you mongers. Even Dick North!And she has a girl that works with her and they do a three way that is out of this world.

[Jack Clear]

- Casino AZ on McKellips seems to have a lot of working and non-working girls visit.

Any advice on getting a deal done at a casino?

[j-man]

Have any of you checked out the MyRedBook site? It seemed to get it's start in Ca, but last time I looked at it, I noticed that they have a listing for Phoenix now, and there is a few postings there.I found these sites on the LA forum. I was unaware of these sites, but I went to the links and then to the main page of each and it was enlightening with all the information available for AZ.

http://www.humaniplex.com/classifieds/11322

http://classifieds.myredbook.com

http://www.verifiedplaymates.com

As posted by Baldy, credit where credit is due.

More choices, make better hobbiest

[Azfrnick]

Never had issues with Yohimbe but you need to cut it.

The pills they give you usually contain too much of it. I usually take half of one, and that is almost too much, while I am a big dude, and not just fat, I do power lift and all that.

This thing is very potent and if you take the right amount, it will keep you up at every level. I have achieved some nice rock hard erections that lasted a long time.

As for the jittery effect, if you limit the quantity, again, you will be fine. Try 1/4 or 1/3 of a pill to start.

They are awesome for working out, especially if you take the pill one hour before lifting weight. The increased blood flow really helps. This and creatine are the two supplements that actually work for me while being legal.

They are also major uppers. If you want to party all night, or work all night on a paper, this will do it.

I personally like it better than Viagra. Viagra will give you that non-stop erection that's going to be socially very problematic.


I've never had any problems with Yohimbe. I don't really have any ED issues, and have used supplements to give me more staying and recuperative power.

There are 2 supplements I like and work for me:

"Nature's Bounty Power V":

Amount per Serving % Daily Value.

Niacin (B3) (as Nicotinic Acid) 45 mg 225%

Guarana Extract Paullina cupana (seed) Standardized to contain 22% caffeine 300 mg*

Yohimbe Extract Pausinystalia yohimbe (bark) Standardized ot contain 2% yohimbine 750 mg*

Taurine 200 mg*

Oat Extract (Avena sativa) (aerial) 150 mg*

Saw Palmetto Extract (Serenoa repens) (fruit) 100 mg*

Testicular Extract (Raw) (Orchic Substance) 50 mg*

Ginkgo Biloba Extract (Ginkgo biloba) (leaf) (Standardized to contain 24% Ginkgo Flavone Glycosides) 40 mg*

Eleuthero Siberian Root (Eleutherococcus senticosus) (root) 30 mg*

* Daily Value not established.

The above is based on 2 tablets. I usually am fine with 1 tablet.

"Men Of Iron" is a propriety blend of Horny Goat Weed Herb, Gota Kola Root, Maca and Tumeric Root Powder. No Yohimbe. An additional plus is that "Men Of Iron" is available at most 99 Cent Only stores for a buck for a 30 tablet bottle.

I can take one or the other, but not both together. For some reason, taking both together gives me the same side effects many of you describe from Yohimbe.

[Play Naked]

Just saw this one at the AM-PM on 16th and Thomas:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-17-dunlap-7o-incall-kinky-bbw-latina-open-24-7-22/11975985

First time I've recognized a BP poster out in public.

Either she is pregnant or needs to lay off the 40s and switch to MGD64.

[Dirty Old Guy]

Great new layout. Easier on the eyes and easier to read.

Ya done good!

Happy Fourth!

[Nevin]

Great new layout. Easier on the eyes and easier to read.

Ya done good!

Happy Fourth!I'll second that. Thought my monitor was goin' for a while.

[Matrix Neo]

I ran into this girl a few years ago. Whatever name she's using now, she was ok back then. I think she tends to rush things, but she was decent overall.

BTW she's older than 21 or 22, and I think she has at least one kid, maybe more.


Just saw this one at the AM-PM on 16th and Thomas:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-17-dunlap-7o-incall-kinky-bbw-latina-open-24-7-22/11975985

First time I've recognized a BP poster out in public.

Either she is pregnant or needs to lay off the 40s and switch to MGD64.

[Crod6969]

I was in Phoenix about 10 years ago and had fun at a couple of the swinger clubs. 2 of the ones I went to are on premise places and allow single males. Had a real hot time with a couple from Chicago. He was not BI, thank goodness, and she was horny as hell. There was a third place that was on premise but needed a lot of personal info at the door so I walked away.

I'm thinking of coming back to Phoeinx for a vacation and trying these places again. Any info will be appreciated.

[DavePHX]

I was in Phoenix about 10 years ago and had fun at a couple of the swinger clubs. 2 of the ones I went to are on premise places and allow single males.In 1999 the city of Phoenix made swing clubs illegal because it "harms children and neighborhoods" according the Christian group that helped write the law as it has in many cities across America (no clue how children are supposedly involved and most clubs were far from any "neigborhoods") Club C owners were forced with the decision to shut down or go to jail (I was deeply involved in the legal fight, meeting with Police Chief, City Council etc). Two other clubs that were not fighting the law are still open and no one can understand why. I know at least one of the owners.

Single males are allowed because they bring in lots of money. Most swingers have no interest in single males for good reasons but some are exhibitionists and enjoy having guys watch them. Sounds like your experience was better but is rare at Pheonix swing clubs.

All the personal info was an attempt to make it a private club not open to the public to avoid the law but didn't work. You may have been referring to Club C which had the long legal battle for a few years after the law passed.

[Jo Kuz]

In 1999 the city of Phoenix made swing clubs illegal because it "harms children and neighborhoods" according the Christian group that helped write the law as it has in many cities across America (no clue how children are supposedly involved and most clubs were far from any "neigborhoods") Club C owners were forced with the decision to shut down or go to jail (I was deeply involved in the legal fight, meeting with Police Chief, City Council etc). Two other clubs that were not fighting the law are still open and no one can understand why. I know at least one of the owners.

Single males are allowed because they bring in lots of money. Most swingers have no interest in single males for good reasons but some are exhibitionists and enjoy having guys watch them. Sounds like your experience was better but is rare at Pheonix swing clubs.

All the personal info was an attempt to make it a private club not open to the public to avoid the law but didn't work. You may have been referring to Club C which had the long legal battle for a few years after the law passed.Has anyone ever been to Club Discretions on 27th Ave just south of Indian School (the one with the blue light). I drove by a couple times but never had the balls to check out. I see them advertise in New Times along with another club in the area. Just wondering what goes on there, how it works (Fee's, what's available, etc) and if its worth checking out. Used to go to one in NYC about 25 years ago, most the girls there actually just worked at the club, it was like a house of prostitution, but there was the occastional walk in. Any info appreciated as usual.

[BeTwo4030]

Has anyone ever been to Club Discretions on 27th Ave just south of Indian School (the one with the blue light).Been in there a couple times, most night the hottest thing in there is the hired help. My wife and I have only gotten lucky once. Mostly just guys. The club just south of Indian School west of 27th is a little better. They have a hot tube and more couples willing to "share".

[Danimal Forth]

Has anyone ever been to Club Discretions on 27th Ave just south of Indian School (the one with the blue light)A few years ago they used to require you to sign a form and get a copy of photo identification. I imagine they still do. The other club doesn't.

[Hummer Bird]

Sorry for the "lack of intel", but I thought this was hilarious!

Especially the pickup line!

Cheers

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/how-to-date-a-younger-woman/1ioepwroy?cpkey=d0800a69-5016-4e4c-854e-13a580b72945%7C%7C%7C%7CFrom=en-us_msnhp

[BeTwo4030]

Sorry for the "lack of intel", but I thought this was hilarious!

Especially the pickup line!

Cheers.

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/how-to-date-a-younger-woman/1ioepwroy?cpkey=d0800a69-5016-4e4c-854e-13a580b72945

%7C%7C%7C%7CFrom=en-us_msnhpThat's freaking hilarious but take it from me its missing step 7. Get a PRENUP!

[Hummer Bird]

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[Matrix Neo]

Happened to be at Casino AZ (McKellips) yesterday afternoon. Ran into this chick who said she does some escorting. She caters to mostly older gentlemen. Didn't know if she has ever posted on CL or BP. BTW whether she escorts or not, I know I have posted before that MANY working girls (whether SWs, massage girls or escorts) hang out at Casino AZ. Who knows, maybe one of you guys will be able to pick up a girl of your liking here.

[Hummer Bird]

Happened to be at Casino AZ (McKellips) yesterday afternoon. Ran into this chick who said she does some escorting. She caters to mostly older gentlemen. Didn't know if she has ever posted on CL or BP. BTW whether she escorts or not, I know I have posted before that MANY working girls (whether SWs, massage girls or escorts) hang out at Casino AZ. Who knows, maybe one of you guys will be able to pick up a girl of your liking here.What about daytime hours? Any working girls. Hard to have an excuse to go to the casino at 11:00pm or later.

[Pepe57]

OMG, was this Tasha from th Hong Kong in Mesa?

I miss Tasha!

Pepe.


What about daytime hours? Any working girls. Hard to have an excuse to go to the casino at 11:00pm or later.

[Kujo69]

Happened to be at Casino AZ (McKellips) yesterday afternoon. Ran into this chick who said she does some escorting. She caters to mostly older gentlemen. Didn't know if she has ever posted on CL or BP. BTW whether she escorts or not, I know I have posted before that MANY working girls (whether SWs, massage girls or escorts) hang out at Casino AZ. Who knows, maybe one of you guys will be able to pick up a girl of your liking here.What did she look like?

[ChrisButts]

Aww man. Forgot to put up the ad.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/tuesday-double-kinky-specials-bambi-and-delicious-21/14478026

[Az Dude]

Happened to be at Casino AZ (McKellips) yesterday afternoon. Ran into this chick who said she does some escorting. She caters to mostly older gentlemen. Didn't know if she has ever posted on CL or BP. BTW whether she escorts or not, I know I have posted before that MANY working girls (whether SWs, massage girls or escorts) hang out at Casino AZ. Who knows, maybe one of you guys will be able to pick up a girl of your liking here.There was. Tammy that used to work at Kim's Sun Spa in Chandler years ago. The other gal working there@the time said that Tammy liked to hit the casinos. A bit too much in fact.

[Bubba1979]

OMG, was this Tasha from th Hong Kong in Mesa?

I miss Tasha!

Pepe.Holy Fuck. Ol Pepe is back with Tasha! Damn she must have been something special. Cmon Hummerbird. Man up! Tell your wife that you are going gambling at all hours and she better have some pots and pans "clanking" when you "gets" home.

[AmanteDeLatina]

Where do you find the girls in Casino Arizona? I have been there a few times and never seen any working girls. Where in the casino do they hang out? How do you spot one when you see one?

[Pepe57]

No, I have not been able to find Tasha since September 09 and yes I still miss her. She was and remaines the best ever in everyway during the ten years I have spent at the AMPs.

I thought maybe someone had spotted her working at a Casino. I don't go to Casinos but if I knew she was there I would go and try to get her back on the table again.


Holy Fuck. Ol Pepe is back with Tasha! Damn she must have been something special. Cmon Hummerbird. Man up! Tell your wife that you are going gambling at all hours and she better have some pots and pans "clanking" when you "gets" home.

[Hobbymaster]

Where do you find the girls in Casino Arizona? I have been there a few times and never seen any working girls. Where in the casino do they hang out? How do you spot one when you see one?Also you may find that they are there but are not working. They may dress down to blend in. I have spotted quite a few at talking stick.

I really do not like casino's. The one on mckelllips is kind of ghetto. You may find some at wild horse pass. But it may be awkward to approach them.

[Jw No Phx]

Was doing some general google searches and came across some of my posts from here on a site named forums dot cityxguide dot com.

Says the forum was started 5 months ago and I'm a member. First post in the forum / thread says over 5 years ago. Didn't try signing in as to not give my PW if they're stealing them.

Jw.

[Dirty Old Guy]

I just heard on the news that the politicians downtown are contemplating a "Sin Tax" on Strip Clubs and Tattoo Parlors. They didn't say how much the tax would be, but this does not sound like a good thing. Nothing was said about Massage Parlors, but I would imagine that they will be included in the bill, too.

This is gettin stupid. Next thing you know you'll go out for a $20. 00 blowjob from your ATF and she will tell you that it's now $25. 50 because she has to collect the tax from you to send into the capital. Taxing pussy. Fucking politicians.

[AmanteDeLatina]

I just heard on the news that the politicians downtown are contemplating a "Sin Tax" on Strip Clubs and Tattoo Parlors. They didn't say how much the tax would be, but this does not sound like a good thing. Nothing was said about Massage Parlors, but I would imagine that they will be included in the bill, too.

This is gettin stupid. Next thing you know you'll go out for a $20. 00 blowjob from your ATF and she will tell you that it's now $25. 50 because she has to collect the tax from you to send into the capital. Taxing pussy. Fucking politicians.I do not think that will pass. It is not very practical. How would they force that or collect that? The girls work off tips so there is no cash register or anything else recording the transaction to pay a pecentage on. I suppose they could add a tax to the cost of the drinks or maybe the cover charge but that is all that I could see that they could do.

[Dirty Old Guy]

It's just like waitresses. They get taxes a certain percentage, whether they make that much or not. The govt. Has formulas that they use to determine how much they have to pay in taxes.

As to how they enforce it. Shit, Jon, they make the rules. They'll figure out a way. Fucking government. :(


I do not think that will pass. It is not very practical. How would they force that or collect that? The girls work off tips so there is no cash register or anything else recording the transaction to pay a pecentage on. I suppose they could add a tax to the cost of the drinks or maybe the cover charge but that is all that I could see that they could do.

[AmanteDeLatina]

It's just like waitresses. They get taxes a certain percentage, whether they make that much or not. The govt. Has formulas that they use to determine how much they have to pay in taxes.

As to how they enforce it. Shit, Jon, they make the rules. They'll figure out a way. Fucking government. .I thought of something that would be funny. You know how the Tea Party wants all of its members to make a pledge to vote for no new taxes on anyone or anything but yet they are the moral police too? Can you imagine the media coverage if they would vote for that tax increase because of their desire to enforce their morals on everyone? That would be hilarious!

[Dirty Old Guy]

Jon,

You're right about the Tea Party not wanting any new taxes (what person in their right mind WANTS new taxes?) , but you're wrong about them being the "moral police". That's the Democrats. And they are the moral police AND want more new taxes!

Fuck it, bud. No politics. I want to get my dick up, not my blood pressure. :)


I thought of something that would be funny. You know how the Tea Party wants all of its members to make a pledge to vote for no new taxes on anyone or anything but yet they are the moral police too? Can you imagine the media coverage if they would vote for that tax increase because of their desire to enforce their morals on everyone? That would be hilarious!

[Matrix Neo]

Was tipped by a friend of mine that there's a chick who frequently goes to Casino AZ (101 and McKellips) and possibly finds dates within the casino or in the parking lot. He said he gave this girl a ride once. If it's the same girl, she lives near Dobson and University in Mesa.

[JackDeath]

How do we find her?


Was tipped by a friend of mine that there's a chick who frequently goes to Casino AZ (101 and McKellips) and possibly finds dates within the casino or in the parking lot. He said he gave this girl a ride once. If it's the same girl, she lives near Dobson and University in Mesa.

[Dirty Old Guy]

Please don't take this wrong, but I'm impressed that your dick hasn't fallen off yet! :)

Since you first started posting on USASG, only 3 weeks ago, you have already made 30 posts! 17 since Saturday! AND, 6 on 5 different boards today! You are an inspiration to us all !

You have been very explicit with all of your conquests with women in strip clubs, from BP and CL, the girls on the street and the ladies in the MP's. You are my new hero!

And to do all of this in such a short period of time, you must be:

RICH: All these girls don't come cheap, do they? Or maybe you are just a silver tongued devil and talk them out of their skivies. ;)

RETIRED: You obviously have lots of free time to see all of these ladies, and to be making all these posts. Ahh. Retirement!

I hope I'm wrong about you, but with all of the action you say you are getting, in so many areas of the board (strip clubs, BP, CL, MP, SW) , it just makes me a little suspicious. Smells a little LEO to me. Just sayin'.

[Steve8502]

I never had any dreams in other cities that I have posted in. I may have commented on other peoples conquests / dreams but that's about it.

I do well for myself and have plenty of free time, I have that many posts yet and am trying to be active on here. Its a forum and thats what its for. Cracks me up that you would even remotely think my name is LEO and that I would spend as much time on here with my postings as I do if I were LEO. Is Baldy or Cooky or any of the other members that have threads dedicated to their dreams LEO also because of it?

I have shared what I shared first, because yes a decent amount of money is spent (but, never asking price of the females in my dreams) and sharing information based on these imaginary investments helps everyone. Secondly so folks can know what to expect or not to expect from certain providers as I figured thats what this forum is for. 3rd as I do spend a decent amount of time diggin' into the "Ham Wallets" out there part of the fun is to share in these dreams.

Is there a rule or time frame in which and how I should post as to quell your fears of LEO on here? LOL I digress, I'll be posting in the SW thread later today as I had a decent dream with a little WSW yesterday after a hard day at work.


Please don't take this wrong, but I'm impressed that your dick hasn't fallen off yet! .

Since you first started posting on USASG, only 3 weeks ago, you have already made 30 posts! 17 since Saturday! AND. 6 on 5 different boards today! You are an inspiration to us all!

You have been very explicit with all of your conquests with women in strip clubs, from BP and CL, the girls on the street and the ladies in the MP's. You are my new hero!

And to do all of this in such a short period of time, you must be:

RICH: All these girls don't come cheap, do they? Or maybe you are just a silver tongued devil and talk them out of their skivies. .

RETIRED: You obviously have lots of free time to see all of these ladies, and to be making all these posts. Ahh. Retirement!

I hope I'm wrong about you, but with all of the action you say you are getting, in so many areas of the board (strip clubs, BP, CL, MP, SW) , it just makes me a little suspicious. Smells a little LEO to me. Just sayin'.

[Dirty Old Guy]

Well, hell. If nothing else, you write well. :)


I never had any dreams in other cities that I have posted in. I may have commented on other peoples conquests / dreams but that's about it.

I do well for myself and have plenty of free time, I have that many posts yet and am trying to be active on here. Its a forum and thats what its for. Cracks me up that you would even remotely think my name is LEO and that I would spend as much time on here with my postings as I do if I were LEO. Is Baldy or Cooky or any of the other members that have threads dedicated to their dreams LEO also because of it?

I have shared what I shared first, because yes a decent amount of money is spent (but, never asking price of the females in my dreams) and sharing information based on these imaginary investments helps everyone. Secondly so folks can know what to expect or not to expect from certain providers as I figured thats what this forum is for. 3rd as I do spend a decent amount of time diggin' into the "Ham Wallets" out there part of the fun is to share in these dreams.

Is there a rule or time frame in which and how I should post as to quell your fears of LEO on here? LOL I digress, I'll be posting in the SW thread later today as I had a decent dream with a little WSW yesterday after a hard day at work.

[Rocknroll702]

I found these sites on the LA forum. I was unaware of these sites, but I went to the links and then to the main page of each and it was enlightening with all the information available for AZ.

http://www.humaniplex.com/classifieds/11322

http://classifieds.myredbook.com

http://www.verifiedplaymates.com

As posted by Baldy, credit where credit is due.

More choices, make better hobbiestYes, those sites are pretty cool, but there are a lot of "fakes" and "upsells" that you have to weed through on HX and RB. Humaniplex is the best IMO, but it doesn't have much action here in PHX.

On a related note, I had a dream about Laura Luvin' from RB a couple of weeks ago. She was terrible. She looked awful, lived in a shack. There was no furniture in the room, just a blanket. What the hell, I had to take care of it, so I busted one. At least the damage wasn't too bad. .80 I would not recommend it at all.

[Jerry8]

Met up with a thin redhead in Mesa. Looks 8 body 8 enthusasim 10+. About 5'6 110. If you like redhead, shoot me a PM for her number.

[Tooncinator]

This is a bit off-topic but not too far. I'm wondering where to get relatively low-hassle, discrete STD testing. I don't think I have anything, but over the years my tongue has been some places it really shouldn't have.

I'd rather not have this discussion with Friendly Ol' Family Doc. Any suggestions? I'm in Glendale, but I'd travel. Bonus points if the clinic isn't situated between a shooting gallery and a crack house!

Regards,

Tooncinator

[Master Bater69]

This is a bit off-topic but not too far. I'm wondering where to get relatively low-hassle, discrete STD testing. I don't think I have anything, but over the years my tongue has been some places it really shouldn't have.

I'd rather not have this discussion with Friendly Ol' Family Doc. Any suggestions? I'm in Glendale, but I'd travel. Bonus points if the clinic isn't situated between a shooting gallery and a crack house!

Regards,

Tooncinator7th ave north of indian school on the west side of 7th. They take cash if you don't want to use your insurance. Fairly inexpensive.

[AmanteDeLatina]

Planned Parenthood does it also. They do it fairly inexpensively. They can do insurance or not. There are Planned Parenthood's all over the valley. It is nice when you go there too because there are a lot of women there getting their birth control so there is eye candy in the waiting room.


This is a bit off-topic but not too far. I'm wondering where to get relatively low-hassle, discrete STD testing. I don't think I have anything, but over the years my tongue has been some places it really shouldn't have.

I'd rather not have this discussion with Friendly Ol' Family Doc. Any suggestions? I'm in Glendale, but I'd travel. Bonus points if the clinic isn't situated between a shooting gallery and a crack house!

Regards,

Tooncinator

[Surffoam]

This is a bit off-topic but not too far. I'm wondering where to get relatively low-hassle, discrete STD testing. I don't think I have anything, but over the years my tongue has been some places it really shouldn't have.

I'd rather not have this discussion with Friendly Ol' Family Doc. Any suggestions? I'm in Glendale, but I'd travel. Bonus points if the clinic isn't situated between a shooting gallery and a crack house!

Regards,

TooncinatorYou can go down to the county health department, they used to do it anonymously. Its at about 20th street and the I-10 in downtown Phoenix. They also do a great job with travel vaccinations if you ever decide to go someplace like Thailand.

[Jack Clear]

Planned Parenthood does it also. They do it fairly inexpensively. They can do insurance or not. There are Planned Parenthood's all over the valley. It is nice when you go there too because there are a lot of women there getting their birth control so there is eye candy in the waiting room.You are a dirty perverse bastard. Dirty.

(PP in Scottsdale on Thomas has the best talent in the valley, IMO. On the upside you can steel yourself for the visit with a quick cocktail at Pranksters next door.)

[Jack Clear]

I don't post much publicly on here much. The fact is, I know my uncle Leonard reads the board and he and I have a nice agreement: I leave him alone and mind my own business as much as possible and well, he has bigger fish to fry.

But I thought some detail of a recent adventure I had would be enlightening.

As most of you know there are many fairly famous, fairly amazing models and adult stars that escort on the side. I'm sure it's all legal as you are only paying for their companionship and there is nothing sexual about it.

A while back I had a nice success in my business life and came into a bit of money (don't PM for loans, it was enough to blow, not enough to retire) and I decided to think up some real bucket list shit to blow it on. Now I'm not a big consumer of porn, but there are a few girls I like. It turned out that one of them escorted on the side and I could think of nothing more bucket list than a nice evening of paid companionship with a lovely, slightly famous nympho.

It took a long time to set up as I wished to avoid agencies, hassles and the like. But eventually I got the girl's direct email and we set up a time. Turned out that she's unavailable fairly often for, I dunno. Personal commitments? But we finally got it set up and decided on a dinner date. I got the details, threw back a shot of Kentucky Brand Liquid Courage and headed over. First off, she was hotter than her pictures, not in the way a Backpage girl is normal looking when you expect her look beat up, but in the way a swimsuit model is a 12 in real life and a 10 in Sports Illustrated.

Stunning is a word. Curvy like a Coke bottle. Juggy. Baby got back. I could tell why she's an adult star. She's more boner inducing than Viagra. There's no job she COULD have other than getting guys hard.

I approached the whole thing with a sort of willing suspension of disbelief and just dove in like it was supposed to happen like it did. Dinner went well, there were two full courses and I was stuffed (her too, let me tell you). We had everything on the menu and it was all amazing, the tab came to like over a thousand but I don't think for one second that it wasn't one of the best meals of my life.

To quote Ferris Bueller: "If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up."

[j-man]

7th ave north of indian school on the west side of 7th. They take cash if you don't want to use your insurance. Fairly inexpensive.Your correct, very discreet for the most part. And they test for Herpes, which alot of clinics don't. They send you to FIT

[Tooncinator]

Your correct, very discreet for the most part. And they test for Herpes, which alot of clinics don't. They send you to FITCool. I appreciate the tips. Anyone know of a place that'll do an HPV test too?

Toons

[MyDixieWrecked]

First, I thought FIT was a workout place where they tested your body fat for body building or weight loss, and I am not joking.

Second, Jack, Clearly you didn't mention her name on purpose? (like my use of clear LOL) Perhapes a name or a link so we can envy your dining companion.

[PartyBoy68]

Cool. I appreciate the tips. Anyone know of a place that'll do an HPV test too?

ToonsSadly, there is no FDA approved test for HPV. Seems that such a test requires harvesting genital skin cells which simply cannot be accomplished. Stay safe and be careful where you dine.

[Jack Clear]

First, I thought FIT was a workout place where they tested your body fat for body building or weight loss, and I am not joking.

Second, Jack, Clearly you didn't mention her name on purpose? (like my use of clear LOL) Perhapes a name or a link so we can envy your dining companion.Sorry mate, she's not "out" as an escort and I got to her via a personal connection. A name might put me in a compromising position. My reason for sharing the report was to encourage you guys to reach out and grab something from the next level.

[AmanteDeLatina]

FIT is also the name of a STD testing clinic. It is at 4312 N 7th Ave in the Melrose Shopping Center in Phoenix. Their website is http://www.myfithealthcare.com/.


First, I thought FIT was a workout place where they tested your body fat for body building or weight loss, and I am not joking.

Second, Jack, Clearly you didn't mention her name on purpose? (like my use of clear LOL) Perhapes a name or a link so we can envy your dining companion.

[AmanteDeLatina]

I never used the waitng room as a place to pick up new talent. I just enjoyed the eye candy as I waited. It reminds me of this video I saw a long time ago on YouTube where they challenged a guy that was a known pickup artist to go into an abortion clinic and pick up women. The idea was to try to find the absolute worse, most difficult place on earth to pick up a lady and have him do it as a challenge. They did the video and he was actually able to get phone numbers from a couple of different women. This video was like 5 years ago so I doubt if it is even still on there. More power to you if you can pick them up in the waiting room. I will bow down to your mongering skills. LOL.


You are a dirty perverse bastard. Dirty.

(PP in Scottsdale on Thomas has the best talent in the valley, IMO. On the upside you can steel yourself for the visit with a quick cocktail at Pranksters next door.)

[TomWolfe1925]

Greetings from the East coast! I'll be visiting the area (Chandler) in a couple of weeks and would appreciate any suggestions for local providers to try out. What I like: GFE (though I don't care about Greek) , petite, enthusiastic, cheerful. Pretty simple, and I'd appreciate any suggestions, preferably ladies with websites, so pics and other info, including reviews are available. If there are other local, regional boards that would be helpful, please let me know.

Thanks!

[Steve8502]

I guess they arent working girls per say since they werent asking for $$$.

Couple plumpers off CL this weekend. Some nice taters and great head skills as most plumpers do tend to have. Both blonde, around 5ft and a bit round but, needed some serious relief and they said whatever I wanted I could have. Been having some decent luck on quite few personal boards out there. Not many model types but, if you're not too picky you can always get your knob slobbed by a bbw in my past experiences.

[Az Dude]

Docs sound the alarm in the New England Journal of Medicine.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1112456

[Hummer Bird]

Docs sound the alarm in the New England Journal of Medicine.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1112456Whoa! This is fucking scary! Wait till it gets in your throat! Don't forget that this shit is one of the of DATY factors!

[Hummer Bird]

Some sites besides backpage that let you see what your hunting before you have to click. I hope this does not violate any forum guidelines.

http://www.adultsearch.com/az/phoenix/

http://arizona.classivox.com/Adult/Female-Escorts/50/

http://classifieds.myredbook.com/phoenix

http://eroticservices.********.com/escorts.php?do=list&c=101

http://www.eros-arizona.com/eros.htm

[Az Dude]

Some sites besides backpage that let you see what your hunting before you have to click. I hope this does not violate any forum guidelines.

http://www.adultsearch.com/az/phoenix/

http://arizona.classivox.com/Adult/Female-Escorts/50/

http://classifieds.myredbook.com/phoenix

http://eroticservices.********.com/escorts.php?do=list&c=101

http://www.eros-arizona.com/eros.htmThose along with tinyeye and cidlookup and just plain 'googling' the number.

Cidlookup oftentimes reveals names which lead to fb, ******* and the like.

Another site seems to be hit / miss, but can also be another check.

[Horndog722]

Whoa! This is fucking scary! Wait till it gets in your throat! Don't forget that this shit is one of the of DATY factors!For sure. Michael Douglas can vouch for the DATY surprise.

[Tooncinator]

A heads-up for those concerned about privacy. I use a separate browser and account for recreational activities, but used my normal one for a quick google search just now.

Google offered to add "Untreatable Gonococcal Infection" to my "Shared News Links" or somesuch voyeuristic social-networky crap. It was the first link: the one you'd click without thinking if you weren't a seasoned paranoid.

"Hey, family and friends! Toons worries about wiener rot: read all about it!"

I declined the offer, searched for "untreatable genetic disease", followed a link about babies with 3 parents, then "signed out" of google.

Fux0rz will want to tell the world what I had for breakfast next.


Those along with tinyeye and cidlookup and just plain 'googling' the number.

Cidlookup oftentimes reveals names which lead to fb, * and the like.

Another site seems to be hit / miss, but can also be another check.Tooncinator.

"Are you looking at me?".

[Steve8502]

Been getting pretty lucky on CL recently.

Just posting up to let ya'll know the fish are bitin' LOL.

A couple thick girls and a couple bbws this week but, enough to keep me busy everyday this week. One a 20yr old ASU student. Freak for sure, started off just watching TV, one comment about her cleavage and 2 minutes later she's naked and playin the skin flute I brought over. It seems theres actually a lot of normal women out there that could be mongers like us. While not a huge fan of BBW's I must admit the head is incredible and they are givers for sure, I gave them a little play back but, just can't bring myself to seal the dirty deed with them. From the tits up its all good but, I just can't go down stairs with them not even to dip the hot dawg in the mustard (can't get to attention with the visual and unfortunately there is this universal odor to the bigger girls I can't get past either.

Anyway, some great flute lessons this week, Thanks CL for being a mongers paradise!

Just hate all the bullsh*t flaggers on there trying to up their chances of scoring, theres enough snapper to go around with out being a DB about it.

[Bubba1979]

Been getting pretty lucky on CL recently.

Just posting up to let ya'll know the fish are bitin' LOL.

A couple thick girls and a couple bbws this week but, enough to keep me busy everyday this week. One a 20yr old ASU student. Freak for sure, started off just watching TV, one comment about her cleavage and 2 minutes later she's naked and playin the skin flute I brought over. It seems theres actually a lot of normal women out there that could be mongers like us. While not a huge fan of BBW's I must admit the head is incredible and they are givers for sure, I gave them a little play back but, just can't bring myself to seal the dirty deed with them. From the tits up its all good but, I just can't go down stairs with them not even to dip the hot dawg in the mustard (can't get to attention with the visual and unfortunately there is this universal odor to the bigger girls I can't get past either.

Anyway, some great flute lessons this week, Thanks CL for being a mongers paradise!

Just hate all the bullsh*t flaggers on there trying to up their chances of scoring, theres enough snapper to go around with out being a DB about it.Steve,

I'm not sure what your doing really. Your last two posts have been generalized observations about nothing in particular. You don't say what category your meeting these girls in. You don't say where you met them. You don't give names, digits, directions. What are we to glean from your posts? Tell us something we can learn from. Do you want us to be proud of you? Just confused I guess. After reading your last two posts I feel like I ate a twinkie. Just empty calories.

Anyway, don't take offense, just give us something that we can use.

Ol Bubba

[Steve8502]

Steve,

I'm not sure what your doing really. Your last two posts have been generalized observations about nothing in particular. You don't say what category your meeting these girls in. You don't say where you met them. You don't give names, digits, directions. What are we to glean from your posts? Tell us something we can learn from. Do you want us to be proud of you? Just confused I guess. After reading your last two posts I feel like I ate a twinkie. Just empty calories.

Anyway, don't take offense, just give us something that we can use.

Ol BubbaCasual encounters section on CL, easy as that. Didn't really think I needed to outline that to a bunch of mongers but, ok.

What good do names do when 99. 9% of the time a woman looking for NSA isn't going to give her real name. It was more to say ya'll don't always have to pay for it, its out there and free too. No drinks, no endless drives, just like fishing from your keyboard is all. LOL.

I did have a very nice AMP visit Friday that Ill post in the correct section later today.

[Dirty Old Guy]

Bubba,

Don't give up on old Steve. You can fill up on all the calories you want by reading all of Steve's conquests. According to him he gets more pussy from Backpage, CL, MP's, Streetwalkers, etc, etc. than any three of us combined. This boy is amazing. He never misses. He is a true stud. He is my new hero. :D


Steve,

I'm not sure what your doing really. Your last two posts have been generalized observations about nothing in particular. You don't say what category your meeting these girls in. You don't say where you met them. You don't give names, digits, directions. What are we to glean from your posts? Tell us something we can learn from. Do you want us to be proud of you? Just confused I guess. After reading your last two posts I feel like I ate a twinkie. Just empty calories.

Anyway, don't take offense, just give us something that we can use.

Ol Bubba

[Shotgun1]

Good afternoon fellow mongers,

I will be coming up to the NE phoenix / payson area in a week or so and would like to know of any dreams you may of had about outcalls to this area. Been surfing backpage and other misc. Sites, looking for a mid 20's GFE at my hotel. Would like someone with references, I hate to waste what little money I have. Thanks

[j-man]

Bubba,

Don't give up on old Steve. You can fill up on all the calories you want by reading all of Steve's conquests. According to him he gets more pussy from Backpage, CL, MP's, Streetwalkers, etc, etc. Than any three of us combined. This boy is amazing. He never misses. He is a true stud. He is my new hero. .I don't know Steve, but I can vouche for postings on CL. I have had a pretty good ratio of closed transactions to reports posted. I got my inspiration from BaldyCruiser on the LA boards. Very interesting stuff. I have a regular that I got with a CL post so I don't post on there very much. The first meeting cost me 2 martinins to close the deal. Been even cheaper ever since. Knock on wood. Good hunting and be safe

[Dirty Old Guy]

I agree with you about what you can get from CL. I've had a little luck there too, but personally I prefer MP's.

What I was alluding to was the amazing amount of pussy Steve gets, from ALL category's (check 'them out)! He's already got well over 50 posts / women just since his first post only one month ago! He's got to be the greatest cocksman ever. WOW! :D


I don't know Steve, but I can vouche for postings on CL. I have had a pretty good ratio of closed transactions to reports posted. I got my inspiration from BaldyCruiser on the LA boards. Very interesting stuff. I have a regular that I got with a CL post so I don't post on there very much. The first meeting cost me 2 martinins to close the deal. Been even cheaper ever since. Knock on wood. Good hunting and be safe

[Tooncinator]

I agree with you about what you can get from CL. I've had a little luck there too, but personally I prefer MP's. .So, why'all getting the freebies are Posting messages there looking for tail, rather than responding to posts, ja? Either that, or I have the most miserable luck in the world. The only thing I ever find on CL's casual encounters are lonely gays, and bots that try to get me to give my CC to a website.

Toons.

[Steve8502]

Patience is a virtue when dealing with CL and posting there or responding to posts. Lots of bots but, just weed through them.

Like I said only had a couple true hotties from CL the rest all had their flaws and or slight issues but, free ham wallet is free ham wallet. Chubby or whatever, Ill take some free head or pound out a couple on a lonely woman.

I'm a great looking guy, in shape, well put together and know my way around women. This isn't a line BTW, especially since its a bunch of mongers on here but, I am definitely blessed in the attraction category and women are generally very open to my suggestions once I have them in the right situation.

Persistence is key as well, just like fishing; The more casts in the water the better your chances. Some days the "fish" are bitin' other days its just fishin'

[Dirty Old Guy]

You are't having miserable luck, that's just the way CL is. Like you, almost every ad I've responded to was bullshit. I've never posted on it, just replied to the w4m posts.

When I said I've had,"A Little Luck" on CL, I mean LITTLE. I've gotten one BJ from a woman who lives in my area off a CL post. That's it. I've given up on it.


So, why'all getting the freebies are Posting messages there looking for tail, rather than responding to posts, ja? Either that, or I have the most miserable luck in the world. The only thing I ever find on CL's casual encounters are lonely gays, and bots that try to get me to give my CC to a website.

Toons.

[Foundation]

So, Friday afternoon I was got out of work early and hadn't eaten yet, so I decided to get some sushi near me. I went to a sushi place in south Gilbert. When I walked in this lady at the desk didn't notice me and she was on her laptop with the screen positioned perfectly for me to see what she was watching. From what I could see, it appeared to be a closed circuit camera of a room with a sweet ass asian girl and a white man going at it. I only got to see about 3-4 seconds because as soon as she noticed me she immediately closed the sceen and looked a little embarassed. I wanted to say something to her about it but I just couldn't do it. Think it was her monitoring her other business or just enjoying some porn on a slow Friday afternoon?

[Jo Kuz]

I understand there are a few Swinger Clubs in Phx, I know one is Club Discretions, I think there is another one also. Has anyone had any experience with these. What is the deal and what goes on. Is it just a front for Escorts or what and is it worth checking out? Any info apprecaite (Price, detais, etc).

[AmanteDeLatina]

The two that are left in town are Discretions and Encounters. If you are a single guy they are a waste of time. Swingers HATE single men and they generally shun them. The only reason they allow them into the club is that they charge extra for them so it brings them more revenue. Before I learned this I went to them several times in futility. I probably went 30 times and I had sex 1 time. I guess I should say though if voyeurism is your thing then they are a good place to go. The people do have sex in front of everyone and actually allow you to watch. So if you like watching a live porno film it would be a good place to go. If you are married and into partner swapping / sharing then they are a good place to go. If you are looking to participate then they are not good places and I would avoid them like the plague as all they will do is drain your wallet. They are very expensive to get into too.


I understand there are a few Swinger Clubs in Phx, I know one is Club Discretions, I think there is another one also. Has anyone had any experience with these. What is the deal and what goes on. Is it just a front for Escorts or what and is it worth checking out? Any info apprecaite (Price, detais, etc).

[Steve8502]

The two that are left in town are Discretions and Encounters. If you are a single guy they are a waste of time. Swingers HATE single men and they generally shun them. The only reason they allow them into the club is that they charge extra for them so it brings them more revenue. Before I learned this I went to them several times in futility. I probably went 30 times and I had sex 1 time. I guess I should say though if voyeurism is your thing then they are a good place to go. The people do have sex in front of everyone and actually allow you to watch. So if you like watching a live porno film it would be a good place to go. If you are married and into partner swapping / sharing then they are a good place to go. If you are looking to participate then they are not good places and I would avoid them like the plague as all they will do is drain your wallet. They are very expensive to get into too.Couldn't have said it better myself. While I have had luck myself at both Discretions and Encounters I don't recommend going there if your plan is to get laid. Mostly people that you would never want to see naked, walking around and the ones having sex are not really the ones you care to watch having sex either. HUGE waste for a single guy and most of the time its a minimum of $5060 just to get in. There's no drinking or anything else allowed inside and theyre both in sh*t neighborhoods.

You would be better off hitting up a bar 20 minutes before closing and looking for "that girl" that needs a ride home or has had a little too much to have better judgement. LOL

[Jo Kuz]

Couldn't have said it better myself. While I have had luck myself at both Discretions and Encounters I don't recommend going there if your plan is to get laid. Mostly people that you would never want to see naked, walking around and the ones having sex are not really the ones you care to watch having sex either. HUGE waste for a single guy and most of the time its a minimum of $5060 just to get in. There's no drinking or anything else allowed inside and theyre both in sh*t neighborhoods.

You would be better off hitting up a bar 20 minutes before closing and looking for "that girl" that needs a ride home or has had a little too much to have better judgement. LOLThanks guys, guess I'll bag that idea.

[AmanteDeLatina]

I forgot to mention in my previous post there is a place way out in the eastern valley that is basically like a swinger club that only costs $8 to get it. It is an adult bookstore called called Personal Preference. It is at 9550 E Main St, Mesa, Az. It is a little west of Crismon Road. On Apache Trail. It is technically part of an unincorporated area of Maricopa county so they seem to be able to get by with a few more things. I have had luck there a few times, in fact better luck than any swinger club because they seem to not hate single men there. The theatre is where all the action is at so when you go in there on a Friday or Saturday night there will usually be some action and sometimes you will get lucky. They also have an adult arcade and I have seen some people having fun in those.

The bad thing about the place is that there are a lot of gay people in there doing their thing. Not that I hate gays, I am just personally not gay so I really have no desire to see that. You will see some gay stuff happening so you sort of have to just mind your own business and try to look the other way. I have had a couple of gays grab my crotch in there and I had to tell them sorry, that is not my thing. Personally, I would avoid the glory holes there because unfortunately you have no way of knowing if it is a guy or a lady on the other side of the hole (unless you are bisexual and do not mind that). The films they show are all straight so if you can wade through the gay stuff you can sometimes find a lady that will perform for you. I have gotten lucky there many times. I one time saw a lady that was giving BJ's to every guy in the place asking them to cum on her face and she would never wipe it up. She had about 14 different men's cum on her face and her face was just a glaze of cum! I have even seen women come to the place buck naked even as they drive up in their car and literally walk in the business naked and never wear a stick of clothing the entire night! It is a cheap place to find some action if you can find a way to ignore the gay stuff!


I understand there are a few Swinger Clubs in Phx, I know one is Club Discretions, I think there is another one also. Has anyone had any experience with these. What is the deal and what goes on. Is it just a front for Escorts or what and is it worth checking out? Any info apprecaite (Price, detais, etc).

[Steve8502]

Went there not too long ago but, it was during the day on a weekday so I'm sure thats why I had the "experience" that I did.

Walked in, counter guy was quiet little creepy but, he does work in "that" place so I guess it goes with the territory.

Got the little $5 card or whatever it was, went to the arcade and it was a couple dudes in the booths and about 4 guys strolling around peeking into the booths (Most of which had a hole in the door which actually looked like it was put there to watch) , grabbed a booth by myself and checked out the videos, most of which were pretty old but, straight at least. I swear within 6 seconds there were dudes standing at my booth door, I'm thinking WTF really? I'm not a homophobe but, I don't do gay sh*t. Either.

Within 2 minutes I was over it and decided to walk out. I have little doubt that my timing had every thing to do with it. I have heard success stories of this place and wild women. I'll probably try it again someday but Ill troll the parking lot firs to see whats going in and out. LOL

[Dirty Old Guy]

Jon,

I think you and I have talked about this before.

Personal Preference is nothing like a swingers club at all. It is an adult theater / bookstore / arcade. Yes, there are times when there is an occassional woman in there that has sex with men, other than the man who brought her, but now-a-days that is more of a rarity than the norm (back in the 60's and 70's EVERYONE was fucking in the theaters).

The only "swingers" type times that goes on at PP is on Tuesdays and Saturdays when they have "Couples Night". On those nights you can see quite a few couples come to the theater for sex with other, or multiple, couples. BUT, on those nights ONLY couples can enter the theater. So, unless you have brought a woman with you, you are out of luck until after 11:00PM. That's when "Couples Night" is over and all of the "penis gallery" is let into the theater that the couples are in, but by then most all (if not all) of the couples are gone.

As far as being able to "get away with a few more things", don't count on it for a while. Vince (the owner) told me that PP and every other theater in the valley has been visited by LEO lately. This is an election year and LEO ALWAYS gets picky during an election year. Wait until after November and things will get back to normal. As far as the Gloryholes in the arcade, they have been sealed off so you don't have to worry about men OR women sucking your dick there (you can thank a recent visit from LEO for that).

And, you are right, there is lots of gay action at PP and every other porn theater. Just accept the fact and deal with it. If it really bothers you then you probably should not go to any more porn theaters because you know it's going to be there.

A true swingers club is expensive to get into, especially for single men, and you never know how many (or how few) couples will be there on any given night. Mostly it is couples pairing off together or just swapping and going into seperate rooms for sex. Sometimes it is an orgy in a single room. More times than not, a single guy will pay his money and just take his chances on getting laid or not. Just paying your cash and going in does not gurantee that you are going to get laid.


I forgot to mention in my previous post there is a place way out in the eastern valley that is basically like a swinger club that only costs $8 to get it. It is an adult bookstore called called Personal Preference. It is at 9550 E Main St, Mesa, Az. It is a little west of Crismon Road. On Apache Trail. It is technically part of an unincorporated area of Maricopa county so they seem to be able to get by with a few more things. I have had luck there a few times, in fact better luck than any swinger club because they seem to not hate single men there. The theatre is where all the action is at so when you go in there on a Friday or Saturday night there will usually be some action and sometimes you will get lucky. They also have an adult arcade and I have seen some people having fun in those.

The bad thing about the place is that there are a lot of gay people in there doing their thing. Not that I hate gays, I am just personally not gay so I really have no desire to see that. You will see some gay stuff happening so you sort of have to just mind your own business and try to look the other way. I have had a couple of gays grab my crotch in there and I had to tell them sorry, that is not my thing. Personally, I would avoid the glory holes there because unfortunately you have no way of knowing if it is a guy or a lady on the other side of the hole (unless you are bisexual and do not mind that). The films they show are all straight so if you can wade through the gay stuff you can sometimes find a lady that will perform for you. I have gotten lucky there many times. I one time saw a lady that was giving BJ's to every guy in the place asking them to cum on her face and she would never wipe it up. She had about 14 different men's cum on her face and her face was just a glaze of cum! I have even seen women come to the place buck naked even as they drive up in their car and literally walk in the business naked and never wear a stick of clothing the entire night! It is a cheap place to find some action if you can find a way to ignore the gay stuff!

[AmanteDeLatina]

It is interesting that you and I have had different experiences there. I usually find women there after 11 pm. Granted, not a full room full of women but I usually see like one or two of them. And they usually get pretty wild for me. I have gotten lucky a few times. It is possible what you said about this year because I will admit I have not made it in the yet in 2012. Maybe those changes have happenned.

I do not doubt what you are saying. It is weird though how you and I have had different experiences there. I agree, the gay thing you just sort of have to accept.


Jon,

I think you and I have talked about this before.

Personal Preference is nothing like a swingers club at all. It is an adult theater / bookstore / arcade. Yes, there are times when there is an occassional woman in there that has sex with men, other than the man who brought her, but now-a-days that is more of a rarity than the norm (back in the 60's and 70's EVERYONE was fucking in the theaters).

The only "swingers" type times that goes on at PP is on Tuesdays and Saturdays when they have "Couples Night". On those nights you can see quite a few couples come to the theater for sex with other, or multiple, couples. BUT, on those nights ONLY couples can enter the theater. So, unless you have brought a woman with you, you are out of luck until after 11:00PM. That's when "Couples Night" is over and all of the "penis gallery" is let into the theater that the couples are in, but by then most all (if not all) of the couples are gone.

As far as being able to "get away with a few more things", don't count on it for a while. Vince (the owner) told me that PP and every other theater in the valley has been visited by LEO lately. This is an election year and LEO ALWAYS gets picky during an election year. Wait until after November and things will get back to normal. As far as the Gloryholes in the arcade, they have been sealed off so you don't have to worry about men OR women sucking your dick there (you can thank a recent visit from LEO for that).

And, you are right, there is lots of gay action at PP and every other porn theater. Just accept the fact and deal with it. If it really bothers you then you probably should not go to any more porn theaters because you know it's going to be there.

A true swingers club is expensive to get into, especially for single men, and you never know how many (or how few) couples will be there on any given night. Mostly it is couples pairing off together or just swapping and going into seperate rooms for sex. Sometimes it is an orgy in a single room. More times than not, a single guy will pay his money and just take his chances on getting laid or not. Just paying your cash and going in does not gurantee that you are going to get laid.

[Dirty Old Guy]

Jon,

Please read my post more carefully. I did not say anything about my personal experiences at PP, or any other theater. All I did was post information.

As far as my experiences, I've played theaters since 1968 (probably before you were even born :)) , and have had some experiences you wouldn't believe. Stranger sex is very exciting to me, and obviously to you too. I've found a fair amount of action when I've been to PP, but I live up in the NW part of the valley and usually play at the Adult Shoppe or Just For Fun, and there is a good amount of action there too. Check out the Adult Theater board here in the Phoenix section. You can post some of your action there for us to read about.

And this is just a suggestion. You say you usually find women there after 11PM. It has ALWAYS (since the 60's and 70's, and still is) been true that the real action is from 2AM. 5AM. That's when the hardcore couples come out because they know that most of the guys have gone home to wifey, the theater is fairly well cleared out and only the real players are left. But, beware! The gays are still there too! :D


It is interesting that you and I have had different experiences there. I usually find women there after 11 pm. Granted, not a full room full of women but I usually see like one or two of them. And they usually get pretty wild for me. I have gotten lucky a few times. It is possible what you said about this year because I will admit I have not made it in the yet in 2012. Maybe those changes have happenned.

I do not doubt what you are saying. It is weird though how you and I have had different experiences there. I agree, the gay thing you just sort of have to accept.

[Steve8502]

I will preface with everything below being a hypothetical situation and knowing that NOONE here engages in anything illegal EVAR then we can have a little discussion on the matter just for shits and giggles.

Wasn't really sure where to put this, I guess part though part question.

So I'm just wondering if anyone has actually ever paid one of these working girls (For example). https://www.preferred411.com/index.cfm?fx=Client

The $350-450 for a meet and greet. HOLY F*CKING GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome)

Who the f*ck would actually pay such a figure for something you could get for the cost of a few drinks at a bar when it really comes down to it?

Is paying that much, (a weeks pay in some of your cases I'm sure) going to make the experience that much better?

I think to myself F*CK no, not one working girl pussy on this earth is worth that and I'm serious. Even if one looks like the Elephant Man you could score for less hypothetically speaking of course. I'm not talking about Jessica Alba or Eva Mendez or something like that though theres plenty or SLOOTS in Snottsdale, PHX and Tempe that compare physically to them and would gladly go home with you for nothing if you played your cards right.

Before someone rants, I get not wanting to chance not getting some but, for fucks sake there is something to be said for the chase, even in the AMP's or IP's a great deal is the chase and what can you get away with along with the usual guarantee of what you want for what they want. In reality this is any Male Female relationship, what can you get away with for as little as possible, the married guys here can attest to that statement I'm sure because when it comes down to it you're still paying for it with your wife, just on so many other levels along with monetary.

LOL, now that I think of it, the married guys here are probably paying way more than 3-5 hundo for their wife's goods. LMFAO

[Papa Rotzi]

The prices you quoted for a meet and greet are insane; there's another website (something like whatsyourprice dot com?) that allows you to offer a girl an amount ot meet you for a drink or dinner. One of my bud's (he's married" loves that site and is able to get chicks to meet him for $20 to $40 plus the cost of the drinks / meal. If you do not have "game" or the time to cruise bars looking for something, this is a great way to see if you want to take it to the next level. However, you can also go to that seekingarrangments site that I like and meet the girl first before consummating anything. And that's always been for free. So do your homework and enjoy the fruits of your labor. Just a few ideas, gents.

QUOTE=Steve8502; 1398314]I will preface with everything below being a hypothetical situation and knowing that NOONE here engages in anything illegal EVAR then we can have a little discussion on the matter just for shits and giggles.

Wasn't really sure where to put this, I guess part though part question.

So I'm just wondering if anyone has actually ever paid one of these working girls (For example).

https://www.preferred411.com/index.cfm?fx=Client

The $350-450 for a meet and greet. HOLY F*CKING GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome)

Who the f*ck would actually pay such a figure for something you could get for the cost of a few drinks at a bar when it really comes down to it?

Is paying that much, (a weeks pay in some of your cases I'm sure) going to make the experience that much better?

I think to myself F*CK no, not one working girl pussy on this earth is worth that and I'm serious. Even if one looks like the Elephant Man you could score for less hypothetically speaking of course. I'm not talking about Jessica Alba or Eva Mendez or something like that though theres plenty or SLOOTS in Snottsdale, PHX and Tempe that compare physically to them and would gladly go home with you for nothing if you played your cards right.

Before someone rants, I get not wanting to chance not getting some but, for fucks sake there is something to be said for the chase, even in the AMP's or IP's a great deal is the chase and what can you get away with along with the usual guarantee of what you want for what they want. In reality this is any Male Female relationship, what can you get away with for as little as possible, the married guys here can attest to that statement I'm sure because when it comes down to it you're still paying for it with your wife, just on so many other levels along with monetary.

LOL, now that I think of it, the married guys here are probably paying way more than 3-5 hundo for their wife's goods. LMFAO[/QUOTE]

[DavePHX]

Who the f*ck would actually pay such a figure for something you could get for the cost of a few drinks at a bar when it really comes down to it?Just like many [Deleted by Admin] you have zero concept of the real world other than self ritgious studs like you that brag about how easy it is. Not all of us are young studs like you consider yourself to have girls draping their bodies over you and want to get sex because your such a god and women fall at your knees. Your the 1%

For the 99% here, $300-$400 to even $600-$1000 an hour for an escort is common. Lots of clients willing to pay this (not me) that would be offended by your silly self god image.

Preferred 411 is well known site to verify both sides and the fee is not to meet and greet but for hourly companioship - They can do verify you are not LE. Very important in Phoenix with the many stings against in private consenting adults to promote the idea of fightiing under age escorts and "trafficking". Typically with about 1000 busts like a rew months ago nationally maybe 2-4 are under aged or "claim" to be trafficking victims.

Since your such a stud and just want to belittle the 99% I don't see your purpose here other than your own self gloification. [Deleted by Admin]

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[Jack Clear]

I think to myself F*CK no, not one working girl pussy on this earth is worth that and I'm serious. Even if one looks like the Elephant Man you could score for less hypothetically speaking of course. I'm not talking about Jessica Alba or Eva Mendez or something like that though theres plenty or in Snottsdale, PHX and Tempe that compare physically to them and would gladly go home with you for nothing if you played your cards right.In some cases you very much get what you pay for.

There are very nice $20 bottles of wine, none will ever compare to a $100 bottle.

Not entirely true when it comes to poon, but if you are a careful shopper and know what you want, it can be worth it. See one of my earlier posts in here:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3406-General-Reports&p=1374851&viewfull=1#post1374851

[Steve8502]

In some cases you very much get what you pay for.

There are very nice $20 bottles of wine, none will ever compare to a $100 bottle.

Not entirely true when it comes to poon, but if you are a careful shopper and know what you want, it can be worth it. See one of my earlier posts in here:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3406-General-Reports&p=1374851&viewfull=1#post1374851I guess I look at it like was the bottle worth $80 more, was it really worth it. I've had $40 bottles of champagne that were ten times better than $300 bottles of champagne to be honest, just like with "poon". Don't get me wrong; I get it, I'm all about quality of certain things it's just none of these females should be put on any type of a pedestal. The difference between "poon" and wine would be, the older wine gets the better it generally is, not the same with "poon". You also don't have 1, 000, 000 sticking their the*cks and who knows whatever else in your wine bottle devaluing it over and over again.


Just like many Republicans you have zero concept of the real world other than self ritgious studs like you that brag about how easy it is. Not all of us are young studs like you consider yourself to have girls draping their bodies over you and want to get sex because your such a god and women fall at your knees. Your the 1%

For the 99% here, $300-$400 to even $600-$1000 an hour for an escort is common. Lots of clients willing to pay this (not me) that would be offended by your silly self god image.

Preferred 411 is well known site to verify both sides and the fee is not to meet and greet but for hourly companioship. They can do verify you are not LE. Very important in Phoenix with the many stings against in private consenting adults to promote the idea of fightiing under age escorts and "trafficking". Typically with about 1000 busts like a rew months ago nationally maybe 2-4 are under aged or "claim" to be trafficking victims.

Since your such a stud and just want to belittle the 99% I don't see your purpose here other than your own self gloification. Usually the result of deep insecurity.My statement didn't belittle anyone and my statements were true, a little effort goes a long way. I don't mind paying for a guarantee of something but, the chase is fun too.

You'll never have game if you don't practice, bottom line.

I don't brag about my looks or physique it sounds like you have some insecurities going on yourself my man.

I am fully secure in who I am and that comes off as something called confidence to women, you should try it sometime. It's fun and it works. I've been helpful on these boards in my reports, findings and advice. Majority of my posting are quality and I've been thanked for them.

Hopefully my bringing attention to these working girls charging ridiculous amounts of money for the same thing Mary Jane rotten crotch from the Avenues is charging a fraction of the amount for. I could see up to 2 0 0 but no more EVER, there's never a time to me personally (In my opinion) that pussy can jump from $50-200 and go up to $1000 or even the 350-400 I posted about. That is GPS at its worst.

Dudes save your money, find a regular or two that'll take good care of you and not rob you of not only your money but, for those prices of 350+ your dignity as well. This statement has nothing to do with looks and or physique. I think everyone and I mean everyone could use a little shot of confidence and self esteem in certain categories not just on this board. Remeber guys at the end of the day she's just a pair of arms, legs and a head attached to a pussy and they know it, don't let them fool you into any bullshit fantasies of any sort outside of the moment you are with her.

That is all, end rant

[Anotheronedown]

DavePHX,

I honestly hope that was made in jest, otherwise that is one of the lamest attacks I've seen yet on the board.

[Papa Rotzi]

Like most Democrats, Ole Dave can get agitated easily and fly off the cuff at times. It's an Entitlement. I'm just sayin' LOL.


I honestly hope that was made in jest, otherwise that is one of the lamest attacks I've seen yet on the board.

[Dirty Old Guy]

Now we are getting politics mixed into the discussion of pussy? WOW.

I agree with Dave about Steve. I think he has a "God" complex, and a VERY active imagination. According to him, with his "great looks", he never misses with BP / CL women, MP's, Streetwalkers, etc, etc. He's just too good to be true. But, that has nothing to do with him being a Republican OR a Democrat. Who gives a shit? I also agree with Papa that Dem's can fly off the handle easily, as evidenced by Daves "Republican", and 1/99% comments. But again, who gives a shit?


Politics doesn't have anything to do with pussy, gentlemen. It has to do with who has the right amount of money for the piece of pussy that they want to buy, and that can be $20.00 for a backseat blowjob from some crackhead working girl on VB to $2000. 00++ for the same thing from some drop dead gorgous woman in her penthouse apartment. Do you really think that Bill Gates pays the same amount for pussy as we do?


I know it's an election year, and I'm not trying to "Flame" Dave or piss him off, but can we keep political shit out of this? This is about REAL pussy, not the pussies in Washington. And there are LOTS of them on BOTH sides of the isle.


Now back to our regularly scheduled program. :D

[Admin]

Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

[Steve8502]

Dirty I have never once over stated any experience on this board, I have no reason or benefit in doing so.

I push my limits with females because basically I could give two sh*ts if they go for what I'm trying or not. Never know unless you try. I could not give any detail as to my experiences but, I try to be thorough in my reports. I'll gladly stop if thats how you feel, though it seems many have enjoyed the places and girls I've mentioned and confirmed my reports as well.

I have nothing to prove to you or anyone here, everyone here needs a good dose of MAN UP and start treating the situation for what it is. It's working girls that we're talking about here, plain and simple nothing more nothing less. I take what people post at face value as I would imagine that they have nothing to prove either being that none of us know eachother personally on here.

Now back to adding to my "GOD" complex. Hahha if going to the gym, taking care of my looks and grooming along with hygeine and having confidence make me have a "GOD" complex then so be it.

[Dirty Old Guy]

Jackson,

Getting back on subject was what I was trying to do with my post.


Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

[Dick North]

Now we are getting politics mixed into the discussion of pussy? WOW.

I agree with Dave about Steve. I think he has a "God" complex, and a VERY active imagination. According to him, with his "great looks", he never misses with BP / CL women, MP's, Streetwalkers, etc, etc. He's just too good to be true. But, that has nothing to do with him being a Republican OR a Democrat. Who gives a shit? I also agree with Papa that Dem's can fly off the handle easily, as evidenced by Daves "Republican", and 1/99% comments. But again, who gives a shit?

Politics doesn't have anything to do with pussy, gentlemen. It has to do with who has the right amount of money for the piece of pussy that they want to buy, and that can be $20. 00 for a backseat blowjob from some crackhead working girl on VB to $2000. 00++ for the same thing from some drop dead gorgous woman in her penthouse apartment. Do you really think that Bill Gates pays the same amount for pussy as we do?

I know it's an election year, and I'm not trying to "Flame" Dave or piss him off, but can we keep political shit out of this? This is about REAL pussy, not the pussies in Washington. And there are LOTS of them on BOTH sides of the isle.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program. .I agree with you about your reference to politics.

Here's the DavePhx quote."Just like many Republicans you have zero concept of the real world"

A clownish statement at best. Especially from a guy who can ramble on endlessly with nonsensical whiney-ass posts about fruitless sc experiences.

It's always interesting to me that the left seems to think that they can bash the right without consequence. But I agree, politics should not be a part of this forum.

Steve ... Appears to have some resemblance to another former poster who was equally abusive and was banished to his own thread.

We will remain vigilant on that issue.

Thanks Dirty Old Guy.

DN.

[Dirty Old Guy]

Dick:

Yea I've gotten a few PM's from some of the other guys here on the boards who were talking about Steve's posted exploits, and thoughts that (initals only)"TS" and / or PW has come back again with a new ID. I'm not saying that he hasn't gotten some pussy, but in only two months on the boards he has gotten more pussy, from more sources, than any five guys here. Combined! The sonofabitch is AMAZING! :D

And, I agree with your political comment and that IS enough about politics.

And, now let's get back to pussy. :D :D

Dirty.


I agree with you about your reference to politics.

Here's the DavePhx quote."Just like many Republicans you have zero concept of the real world"

A clownish statement at best. Especially from a guy who can ramble on endlessly with nonsensical whiney-ass posts about fruitless sc experiences.

It's always interesting to me that the left seems to think that they can bash the right without consequence. But I agree, politics should not be a part of this forum.

Steve. Appears to have some resemblance to another former poster who was equally abusive and was banished to his own thread.

We will remain vigilant on that issue.

Thanks Dirty Old Guy.

DN.

[Steve8502]

What's the deal here, I've been accused of everything from LE, to abusive to having a GOD complex. It's interesting that of all things on this board that I am the topic of discussion. Sure seems plenty of people enjoying my exploits and places / people I've shared.

If someone has an issue don't hesitate to pm me and let me know what it might be. I tell it like it is and don't mince words. I was under the impression this board was full of grown men and wouldn't have drama or could at least keep on topic ie; working girls and where to find them.

Clearly I've been misread by these folks but, I assure you I'm not anyone but, myself and only found the board the day I first posted. I'll continue to contribute on here unless asked otherwise, maybe some of you should focus on that as well. LOL

[Dirty Old Guy]

Steve,

You are right. The boards here are to discuss pussy and where to find it, and I personally think you do an excellent job of writing about it. I really like the way you describe what happens in all of your exploits. But then, I've always liked fiction.

And, I'm not saying that you haven't gotten some pussy and posted about it and had some of the guys here benefit from your experiences. You've done what all of us try to do when we find some good stuff. Good for you. And, your mommy taught you to share. Good for her.

Bud, we've had guys here on the board who got busted posting BS stories in the past. They were just to good to be true, and they got caught at it. If you are truly getting all the pussy you say you are, then good on ya. I envy you. I just don't think you are.

Just sayin.


What's the deal here, I've been accused of everything from LE, to abusive to having a GOD complex. It's interesting that of all things on this board that I am the topic of discussion. Sure seems plenty of people enjoying my exploits and places / people I've shared.

If someone has an issue don't hesitate to pm me and let me know what it might be. I tell it like it is and don't mince words. I was under the impression this board was full of grown men and wouldn't have drama or could at least keep on topic ie; working girls and where to find them.

Clearly I've been misread by these folks but, I assure you I'm not anyone but, myself and only found the board the day I first posted. I'll continue to contribute on here unless asked otherwise, maybe some of you should focus on that as well. LOL

[AmanteDeLatina]

I am planning an overnight trip to Mexicali in the near future (not sure when yet). If you love sex with different girls, you definitely need to go to Mexicali! Imagine going to a place where prostitution is completely legal and encouraged! In Mexicali the girls at strip clubs will straight up ask you if you want to fuck! When the girl comes to you for a drink or to give you a private dance you are allowed to touch them anywhere you want and I mean anywhere. They will touch you too in the good places! Notice how I can freely say all this because if there are undercover LE's on here I am talking about a foreign country where you do not have jurisdiction so I can freely say yes, I am going to pick up licensed strippers and licensed prostitutes and fuck them and do it completely legally! No, this is not a dream, this is reality!

I was wondering if anyone would like to tag along with me? I would only expect that you split the cost of gas. I drive a very fuel efficient vehicle that gets about 30 miles to the gallon so it would not be very much. Mexicali is about a 4 hour drive from Phoenix. I also know a fairly decent motel (decent for Mexican standards, very clean but it will not have all the amenities of an American motel) that you can get for approximately $20 per night. You are fully allowed to bring girls to your hotel room too, the hotel fully accepts and allows it. I have been to Mexicali several times now so I know the ropes pretty well now. I can tell you the good strip clubs to go to plus if you want even cheaper pussy I can tell you where to fully legally get full service as low as $50 from respectable looking ladies. There are also licensed brothels too if that is your thing. You can fuck decent looking strippers for as low as $100 in the nicer clubs and you do not even have to be discreet about it. You can straight up ask them.

Since prostitution is legal down there, all girls have to get a health card which means they have been tested for STD's. They have to get retested every week. So as long as you stay within licensed facilities you are good. Condoms are required of course.

Mexicali is very safe. It has been immune from the drug cartel wars that other border towns have faced. Its location (about an hour and a half west of Yuma) makes it safe as it is sort of in the middle of no where. The L. A. Times recently published an article recently stating:

In Tijuana, schoolchildren get lessons on how to duck during gangland shootouts. Ciudad Juarez cops patrol with military escorts, and the morgue there is spilling over with gunshot victims.

But here in Mexicali, people fear the desert sun more than drug hit men. The city of 700, 000 has a homicide rate comparable to that of Wichita, Kan, and one of the biggest police deployments is Operation Beat the Heat, in which officers haul blocks of ice to shantytown residents.

There hasn't been a bank robbery in Mexicali in 18 months, or a reported kidnapping in a year. Mexicali is considered so safe that top law enforcement officials from Tijuana raise their families here, and are seen visiting restaurants and movie theaters without the phalanx of bodyguards that usually follows them everywhere else.

When I go there I usually do not drive into the town. I usually park on the American side and walk in. I know enough places within walking distance of the border to avoid that and I know a place where you can park on the American side for only $5 a day.

If you would like to learn some more about Mexicali, please visit Jackson's international sex guide site at http://www.internationalsexguide.inf.p?440-Mexicali.

I am not sure yet when I am going to go. It will be some weekend before the end of March, possibly even this weekend. If anyone is interested in a trip like this, please let me know.

[Steve8502]

Steve,

You are right. The boards here are to discuss pussy and where to find it, and I personally think you do an excellent job of writing about it. I really like the way you describe what happens in all of your exploits. But then, I've always liked fiction.

And, I'm not saying that you haven't gotten some pussy and posted about it and had some of the guys here benefit from your experiences. You've done what all of us try to do when we find some good stuff. Good for you. And, your mommy taught you to share. Good for her.

Bud, we've had guys here on the board who got busted posting BS stories in the past. They were just to good to be true, and they got caught at it. If you are truly getting all the pussy you say you are, then good on ya. I envy you. I just don't think you are.

Just sayin.I appreciate the response and candidness of your post. I assure you that I don't post fiction. What would I benefit from doing so? I don't know anyone here and most likely never will, there isn't some big pow wow to get together and say HIGH FIVE I got poon. I posted details because I do enjoy writing but, again I don't write fiction. I haven't posted a review in a short time because of a few taking swings on here and causing drama. It's funny because I have had folks PM me and say that they had very similar experiences just never shared because they were keeping them to themselves. I have plenty I've never posted about because to be honest I don't want it turning into another M10 recommendation or some of the other providers I've used. Though I'm aware I'm not their only daydreamer its nice to at least think that they arent dreaming with a million other guys at the same time.

I realize I've come across aggressive at times in my posting but, for gods sake were all grown men here and I assume can take a razzing from time to time and some could definitely use a kick in the britches and some advice on how to improve their experiences if not luck with women. To be honest it comes off as jealousy at time from the other posters knocking me accusing me of being whom I'm not. I'll continue to share from time to time but, will hold back for a while and just try to help when folks ask about providers.

[Head Banger]

I appreciate the response and candidness of your post. I assure you that I don't post fiction. What would I benefit from doing so? I don't know anyone here and most likely never will, there isn't some big pow wow to get together and say HIGH FIVE I got poon. I posted details because I do enjoy writing but, again I don't write fiction. I haven't posted a review in a short time because of a few taking swings on here and causing drama. It's funny because I have had folks PM me and say that they had very similar experiences just never shared because they were keeping them to themselves. I have plenty I've never posted about because to be honest I don't want it turning into another M10 recommendation or some of the other providers I've used. Though I'm aware I'm not their only daydreamer its nice to at least think that they arent dreaming with a million other guys at the same time.

I realize I've come across aggressive at times in my posting but, for gods sake were all grown men here and I assume can take a razzing from time to time and some could definitely use a kick in the britches and some advice on how to improve their experiences if not luck with women. To be honest it comes off as jealousy at time from the other posters knocking me accusing me of being whom I'm not. I'll continue to share from time to time but, will hold back for a while and just try to help when folks ask about providers.I pm'd you last Friday. Why not spend some of your writing time to someone who sends you a buddy pm?

[AmanteDeLatina]

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Gents,

If you guys want to discuss traveling to international destinations to get laid, why don't you visit my International Sex Guide forum at:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info

Thanks,

Jackson

[Mister Purple]

I noticed there was some talk about HPV on one of the review forums. For those interested, a google search will yield some good info. Here are a couple of sites I found:

http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stdfact-hpv-and-men.htm

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001889/

The following information is from those links:

HPV is passed on through genital contact—most often during vaginal and anal sex. HPV may also be passed on during oral sex. Since HPV usually causes no symptoms, most men and women can get HPV—and pass it on—without realizing it. People can have HPV even if years have passed since they had sex. Even men with only one lifetime sex partner can get HPV.

How common are HPV-related health problems in men?

About 1% of sexually active men in the USA have genital warts at any one time.

Cancers of the penis, anus and oropharynx are uncommon, and only a subset of these cancers are actually related to HPV.

Each year in the USA there are about:

400 men who get HPV-related cancer of the penis.

1, 500 men who get HPV-related cancer of the anus.

5, 600 men who get cancers of the oropharynx (back of throat) , but many of these cancers are related to tobacco and alcohol use, not HPV.

If you are 26 or younger, there is an HPV vaccine that can help protect you against the types of HPV that most commonly cause problems in men. The HPV vaccine (Gardasil) works by preventing four common HPV types, two that cause most genital warts and two that cause cancers, including anal cancer.

Most sexually active adults will have HPV at some time in their lives. Although HPV is common, the health problems caused by HPV are much less common.

Many sexually active young women become infected with HPV. In many cases, HPV goes away on its own. Most men who become infected with HPV never develop any symptoms or problems from the infection. However, they can pass it on to current and sometimes future sexual partners.

[Mister Purple]

I was incorrect on the whole deal, NewTimes claims he has Herpes. Not HPV.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/06/backroom_casting_couchs_anonym.phpI'm posting this here, as I did with my last report related to this discussion, because this kind of topic belongs in the General section and not the review sections. If one reads the article in the above link, they will see that the writer of the article is using fear tactics. The porn actor in question has Herpes Simplex Virus Type 1 (HSV-1) aka Oral Herpes, which he readily admits as he tweeted a picture of his STD test card for everyone to see. He does NOT have Herpes Simplex Virus Type 2 (HSV-2) , or Gential Herpes. The writer of the blog article is either very ignorant or willfully trying to scare people.

Gentlemen (and ladies) , please educate yourselves. Here's a link with some good information on HSV-1.

http://www.ashastd.org/std-sti/Herpes/oral-herpes.html

The following information is from that link:

More than 50 percent of the adult population in the United States has oral herpes, typically caused by herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1). Most people contract oral herpes when they are children by receiving a kiss from a friend or relative.

Oral herpes is commonly referred to as 'cold sores' and 'fever blisters. ' While symptoms of oral herpes most commonly appear on or around the lips, oral herpes is not always limited to this area. For some, symptoms may appear between the upper lip, on or inside the nose, or on the chin or cheek. In these instances, herpes is referred to as oral-facial herpes. You have most likely seen someone experiencing an oral herpes outbreak before.

Oral herpes is transmitted through direct contact between the contagious area and broken skin (a cut or break) and mucous membrane tissue (such as the mouth or genitals). Herpes can also be transmitted when there are no symptoms present. There are several days throughout the year when the virus reactivates yet causes no symptoms (called asymptomatic shedding, viral shedding, or asymptomatic reactivation).

If a person is experiencing symptoms orally, we recommend abstaining from performing oral sex and kissing others directly on the mouth until signs have healed and the skin looks normal again. Because most adults have oral herpes, we do not advise that a person stop giving or receiving affection altogether between outbreaks (when there are no signs or symptoms) simply because they have oral herpes. However, using a barrier (such as a dental dam) or condom when performing oral sex (even though there are no symptoms present around the mouth) can reduce the risk of contracting genital herpes.

By performing oral sex on someone who has genital herpes, it would be possible to contract oral herpes. But this is rare. Most cases of genital herpes are caused by HSV-2, which rarely affects the mouth or face. Also, and even more importantly, most adults already have oral HSV-1, contracted as a child through kissing relatives or friends.

[WildMustang]

Just my Take.

A comment was made before about what sites to use or how to find a good escort. Well here is what I do. I hobby most of the time in Phoenix as my work takes me there a lot and it is out of my home town.

Pictures checked in tin eye (http://www.tineye.com) in all web sites such as provider report, ECCIE, verified playmates, preferred 411. Com, naughty reviews, adult search and back page to name a few. Try it because it will amaze you which providers have others woman's pictures that they are depicting as themselves to make better sales and to fool (deceive) us into thinking they look like the picture. If nobody identifies escorts who have pictures not her in the ad, then the escorts gets away with the deception and get away with making us think they are HOT when they are NOT. Compare pictures if one pic has tits nice and firm but another picture does not or her body is reported differently on another site, Provider Report or USA sex guide? Even some of the popular ATF phoenix and ATF Tucson providers use fake (real professional pictures of someone else from porn, other countries, and lingerie sites) pictures and many of the guys know it. On back page I look at the right side for the highlighted ads and find other women's pictures there not the true picture of escort in the ad. Some say they use fakes to protect them from their husbands, X husbands, boyfriends, girlfriends, friends or family from finding out well that's fine but we expect a real image of an escort to choose the one we want. I like when an ad states 100% real pictures but not many do. If they are real pictures I will make sure I post a comment or review and strongly state that. Fake pictures to me say something is wrong. I expect to find the woman I expect to see. I am not in the charity business where I find something different than was advertised. We cannot go to the door find a woman different from the picture and say sorry I am not interested.

[Hummer Bird]

This is why we have review / report areas. But for the most part 90% of the partakers / mongers NEVER review here, even though they use the forum. If everybody would take 5 mins to just give a brief yea or neh, then the scary random rip-off pimp rob would never happen. Making a report here is not as nearly as dangerous as going to see an unknow provider.

Cheers.

HB.


Just my Take.

A comment was made before about what sites to use or how to find a good escort. Well here is what I do. I hobby most of the time in Phoenix as my work takes me there a lot and it is out of my home town.

Pictures checked in tin eye (

http://www.tineye.com

) in all web sites such as provider report, ECCIE, verified playmates, preferred 411. Com, naughty reviews, adult search a. If nobody identifies escorts who have pictures not her in the ad, then the escorts gets away with the deception and get away with making us think they are HOT when they are NOT. Compare pictures if one pic has tits nice and firm but another picture does not or her body is reported differently on another site, Provider Report or USA sex guide? Even some of the. We cannot go to the door find a woman different from the picture and say sorry I am not interested.

[WildMustang]

HB thats for commenting on my post. I agree but I see ATF's with fake pics and nobody reports that. They just want to protect their fav. This does not help all of us either. I am leary of posting reviews here so I use the other sites.

I will also ad this to picking escorts.

Read reviews.

Age should match between all their websites. Of course all the ages are correct. Thank god for leap year as many providers were born then. Age should also match if the escort has multiple names and many here do with different prices. Some escorts are the same age for years.

I do not give employment or personal info out and if that stops me from seeing certain escorts then so be it and no harm no foul. I only use escort references because in another state my ATF was busted and my employer and I were contacted by LE because it was on her computer. It was a tense situation where I almost lost my job and family. She told me how sorry she was and I accepted that because that is the risk we take. I choose now to not put my info out there. She also told me that she did keep all records of all clients and most girls do. I am still in contact with her. Also as the talk has been with pimps and managers how many people know you're your information? Just the escort? I know many say they destroy it but is there any proof? Apparently not destroying it is common practice from the post of her looking up the email to prove she was right. And it is good ammo for LE or them to use if they are busted. Do they care enough about you to protect you. I think not. They say it is for their protection and that is good but I must think about myself as well. Managers get busted too for running prostitution so sometimes they cover themselves with your information.

[Hummer Bird]

That's right. It is a scary world out there. I do not care how "re-assigned" they get, for they still remain the third sex. And I never want to wake up to a Hangover III.

"23-year-old Jenna Talackova had made it to the finals as a contestant in the 2012 Miss Universe Canada pageant to be held this May. Not terribly noteworthy for a 6'1 statuesque blonde.

Except for one thing. Talackova was born male.

From the age of four, Talackova says she "knew" that she was a girl. She began hormone therapy when she was 14 and underwent sexual reassignment surgery five years later. In 2010 she was a Top 10 finalist in the transgender Miss International Queen pageant held in Thailand."

Now if she was only a Top 10 in Thailand, then WTF does a First place look like! Shit! Get your Dick Radar Up. Oh don't get your hopes up, as the Korean in the photo is also a "whack job"!!

BTW: sorry if this offends anyone, but if you ever plan to visit / engage in sex tourism at one the many destinations on Jackson's ISG forum, then you had better have your game on. Radar radar radar RIDER.....

[Tempo54]

I agree with what you're saying. In fact, I have seen many providers but have only ever posted one review on this site. I often times opt to spend my time with "visiting" providers since they are limited time, as opposed to many of the local providers who are often available whenever. That said, part of the reason I am hesitant to post is because for various reasons I do not want my review to be linked back to me. One of the things that fellow mongers on this board look for are details, and if one is not a senior member (such as myself) , a positive endorsement of a certain provider without details results in accusations of being LEO or a pimp or manager. I've seen this happen before on the forum.


This is why we have review / report areas. But for the most part 90% of the partakers / mongers NEVER review here, even though they use the forum. If everybody would take 5 mins to just give a brief yea or neh, then the scary random rip-off pimp rob would never happen. Making a report here is not as nearly as dangerous as going to see an unknow provider.

Cheers.

HB.

[Dirty Old Guy]

Tempo,

I think that a lot of the LEO accusations come from new members to the board just asking for info on providers, and never posting anything that can be shared with the group. Just like all of us senior members have done, you (and everyone) needs to build some "street cred" before we feel comfortable with you and know you are not LEO. I know that some regular, and senior, members have applauded some newbies for posting their detailed "adventures". We would like to hear about your's. And, by the way, the best way to build up that credibility IS to have your reviews linked back to you. If you give some good stuff, and others find that it is truly "good stuff", then your "cred" has started to build.

We are all here for the same thing. We know that LEO monitors this board and we are just trying to be careful. If some real guy, newbie, posts something and someone accuses him of being a LEO or manager and he gets his feelings hurt then,"sorry 'about that".

BUT, we know that a lot of "newbie" posts are in fact our favorite uncle looking for info for busts.

Dirty.


I agree with what you're saying. In fact, I have seen many providers but have only ever posted one review on this site. I often times opt to spend my time with "visiting" providers since they are limited time, as opposed to many of the local providers who are often available whenever. That said, part of the reason I am hesitant to post is because for various reasons I do not want my review to be linked back to me. One of the things that fellow mongers on this board look for are details, and if one is not a senior member (such as myself) , a positive endorsement of a certain provider without details results in accusations of being LEO or a pimp or manager. I've seen this happen before on the forum.