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DiabloMactavish
06-24-02, 15:13
hey Jackson -

how come words like fuck, ****, and cock are okay on the forum,
but ***** (b*itch) is censored?

Because the only use if the word b*itch is to refer to women in a derogratory manner, which is not permitted on this site.

Thanks,

Jackson

ProteinShake
07-02-02, 11:09
@Jackson

Good point, Good rule.

The women at any of these clubs are giving us a service, which we are willing to pay them for. Some of them do thier "jobs" well, and others do not. We should treat them ALL with respect and not relate to them using any type of masochistic terminology.

Just simply refer to them as girls, ladies, women or even mamas.

Thank you

Miller2k
07-02-02, 16:17
Jackson...not to be an ass, but the word b*tch can also be used as a verb...(i.e. I b*tch too much about little things.)

DiabloMactavish
01-30-03, 03:08
Hi Jackson -

Due to the recent problems with certain "overly active" posters, I will not name any names, let's just say he was recently assigned his own section...

Anyhow. Have you give any thought to a moderated forum similar to what is available through slashdot's (http://slashdot.org) slashcode (http://slashcode.com).

In that system, people are assigned "karma", and then randomly asked to moderate comments made by other users. The more posts you make that are considered good, increase your karma.

When members read the comments, then can choose what level of "karma" to read the posts. The trolls are moderated at (-1) for instance, so you can essentially make them invisible while reading the posts.

An additional control is that people with good karma are also given the opportunity to metamoderate, which means they review posts which have been moderated, and judge whether they were moderated fairly.

This system keeps the original moderators in check.

Basically the good posters are always given the chance to rise above the chaotic noise of the trolls and spammers, and yet no one can say that they were censored, because the posts, though usually unread by 99% of the visitors, are available to those who want them.

It seems like the system works pretty well. Slashdot has a good number of posters that could only be described as "professional trolls". The ranking/rating system minimizes that. The day I accidentally click on goatse.cx from here, I will know that the WSG has finally come of age.

anyhow, just my dos centavos.

regards -

diablo mactavish

JustFun10
05-18-03, 02:45
Hi Jackson,

I commend your views on members back channeling thecontact details through private emails. However, in my case, I have had the misfortune of seeing a clamp down by LE because one of the members was very forthcoming with details on the forum. The girls were the sufferers in that case. To avoid such a thing happening isnt it prudent to be a bit more cautious??

Perhaps the senstivie information could be routed through your private email?? If you could ascertain the requestor is not a vigilante.

Your thoughts on this matter will be appreciated.

Justfun.

Almotu
05-18-03, 04:13
Jackson,
I am of course trying to make positive & valuable contributions to the forum. I recently posted a reply to seeksgoodtime's message concerning the exchange rate against the real. But it is not posted. I don't believe there is any problem with my message & if there was I assumed I would hear from you. I hope to move closer & closer to Senior Member status as well. Could you tell me what happened with my message? If it was just lost in cyberspace, I will write it again. If there is a problem with my language or content, let me know please.

almotu

The Taz
05-18-03, 12:25
I understand and respect your not making the board a free-for-all. However, it's a catch-22 for newbies. How can we write reports if we don't know where to go? Maybe a policy of allowing 1-2 e-mail posts for newbies, but no more if a report is not posted.

I appreciate what you are saying, but the idea behind the forum is that other members who have traveled the road before you have posted their experiences in the Forum, thus providing you with the information you need to "know where to go".

AsianRob
05-18-03, 16:20
Jackson,

I understand your reasoning behind your actions. Many Forum posts are arguments or discussions regarding non-hobby related topics. I have seen many of these strings. I agree with you in saying that “this does nothing to enhance the value of the Forum's collective database “, but these rants can make a Regular member into a Senior member. The quality of a member’s post goes unchecked. I have also heard many stories of ladies being hassled by LE, because a member provided too many details in the forum. Inappropriate postings could be the reason for so little action in areas. I have not been a regular contributor because I do not have a lot of time or money for this hobby. I also refuse to post useless messages. I regret posting this message since this does not help my fellow hobbyists, but I wanted to voice my opinion.

My apologies to my fellow hobbyists,

AsianRob

You comments are completely appropriate and most welcome.

JimmyDR
05-19-03, 12:33
There seems to be alot of Underground parties going on in NYC lately. I have been to many and the ones with Yahoo sites I post openly and you can join then get screened as well. There are others that are by invite only so I post my e mail and those of you with alot of posts I then pass along the info. They are nervous about who attends them. I have been e mailing with a few 100 over the last 2.5 years so you are cool. Its the ones that come out of no where we are worried about!


Jimmydr@blackvoices.com

Almotu
05-23-03, 12:48
Jackson,

I am curious - once again something that I contributed did not make the site. I posted a fairly informative message in the Rio board concerning credit card use. I have yet to see it posted - it's been several days now. Is there something wrong with it? Is it old news? Did I break a rule of this site?

Please advise,

almotu
almotu@aol.com

NC Hunter
08-23-03, 21:09
Jackson,

I am a I am shocked by the number of reports that are getting through with racial slurs embedded within them. I feel that this is a brotherhood of mongering and we should not discrimintate against mongers unless they are doing despicable things like child molestation.

What can we as fellow mongers do to impress upon our fellow mongers that using terms such as those that belittle or take away the dignity of others should not be used on this forum. I realize you have many other things to consider and this must indeed be a monumental task upon which you are overseeing (and doing a damn good job, I might add) but let's see if we can stop fellow mongers from insulting other mongers (be it intentional or unintentional). Examples: Just do a search on, "chink", "nigga", or "jap" and you will see what I mean. These are unacceptable terms that in my humble opinion have no place on this truly outstanding board that you maintain.

Thanks for taking time out to listen.

NC Hunter

Fenster
09-26-03, 21:56
Allow me to be the skunk at the party and not stroke and massage the administrator and his guidelines. Is Jackson even aware of the format his board has evolved to? What reports are you talking about for cryin out loud? The ratio of meaningful reports vs. pure discussion and inquiries is negligible if not nil. So now if a not so senior member wants to post a follow up question on a topic, you wanna call his mono syllabic inquiry a report? You wanna have him wait till you parse it, patronize and approve it? Is that it? Either the administrator is all too flabbergasted with having control over a forum, or is enamored with the business of over kill, time consuming administration.

And why are you taking these tedious, draconian measures? Cause your board is free? So charge us and reinstate ease of use. You think patrons of this board are destitute and desperate for freebies? You want us to do hand stands cause your board is free to the public? Ultimately, if a member has a quick question about a hotel or a location, don’t ask him to post his report so you can examine it, he doesn’t have a report, his is a two worded question.

What's "draconian" about asking people to use correct capitalization and puncutation?

Chris2
10-30-03, 12:03
Ok, I am supposed to post a certain number of reports before I become a senior member, that is reasonable.

However, the problem is that nobody will be reading anything I post before I become a senior member, nor will anyone respond to anything I write. This is because by the time my messages finally make it to the forums, 3 days later or whenever, they will be on page 2 or 3 and nobody will go back there to see them.

Why can't the delayed messages, after they've finally been posted, be given the actual posting date and time, rather than the original posting date and time?

This would allow new users of this site to participate in conversations, which they cannot generally now do, and would encourage them to actually write reports, since they would know that people would actually be reading them. This would encourage more senior members.

Maybe this would be too difficult to do, practically speaking. But as it is now, I'll probably go back to reading these forums and not posting, since I've figured out that nobody reads my posts.

Hi,

I appreciate your observations.

First, I cannot change the program's code to effect the date/time stamp on the reports as you suggested.

Second, The WSG Forum is an archive of travel reports, not a chat room, so it's not designed to encourage back-and-forth chatting between members.

If you have information to report, then post it. If you want to chat, then go to a chat room.

Thanks,

Jackson

RedDog
12-04-03, 19:14
I would like to comment on the PM function of the board. For the most part i like it but i would like to ask if it is not to difficult to have the functionality of this tool only be available to senior members. Because i saw a post of a first time poster that just requested info and then said PM me with the info. I think that is clearly a sign that he will never post and proably not read again. He wants info sent directly to him and a notice of when it arives. I like the PM function because it makes meeting other easy with out have to make a post and having the whole board show up. I am not a great member but as a good member i think this could stop people like this the same way the posting e mail and web address help to prevent it as well.

Swiss Tiger
12-05-03, 05:51
Reddog,

That guy really "got your goat" didn't he? (I read your message to him!)

Personally, don't you think it would be better if 1st timers were "encouraged" to come back and post their experiences, we might learn something new?

He may have requested a PM because he is shy, or simply because its his 1st time and didn't know.

If his request for a PM means that he is jumped on by "seniors" and brandished a "one timer", and given no or little help to enjoy his experience then it does not really encourage him to come back and share what he got up to with the rest of us.

Clearly, however, I can see your point in trying to dissuade "one timer" activity when the activity is simply a matter of questions and no reports, but sometimes we (or rather this forum) will have to take the risk.

If we assist him and give him the best chance of having "fun", then surely this encourages a revisit more with reports and thanks, don't you think?

Maybe not everyone is like me and you, but we do need to give the "new boys" a chance.

Anyway thats what I think, and I am sure El Matador del Amor Jackson will make up his own mind.

Ciao for now.
ST

Dick for Brains
12-25-03, 20:23
I agree with much of what Chris2 has to say regarding the posting/timing of regular members' reports. Many people who read regularly look only for the most recent postings. Thus they don't get to see newly-posted entries by Regular members as these appear in the thread according to their original time-stamp rather than the time of the actual posting.

Jackson - since you filter these messages anyway, and you can't/don't know how to over-write the time stamp of the program, perhaps it makes sense for you to write some macro to re-submit the posting after you've approved and edited it. In this way, at least the post will get a new time-stamp and will then be read by more of the senior (more regular) members.

Only a suggestion. I don't know if this makes sense to you or if it is way too much work. Again, just a suggestion but I sense that many regular members feel a sense of frustration that they are not fully involved in the conversation because of this treatment.

Thanks for hearing me out.

DfB

Bobby11
01-10-04, 11:46
Hello,

Writing about BB (bareback) sex should not be permited. You can "kill" another people today having unprotected sex.

Thanks

Stoner
01-12-04, 20:57
Jackson,

I hate to offend you, I really appreciate this site and recommend it to all.

You recently put a message in the Boston forum about not mentioning other "competing" web sites.

I don't know how you feel about this, but I'd love to see a brief discussion about this.

There are many realities we deal with on WSG that we don't deal with on the "competing" sites. Here, its almost 100% mongers. Rarely do we see providers post. Personally, I like this, though I do know that many read here. But is strictly guys on the most part and most conducive for guys.

Yet...as we research info on providers, we must recognize the reality that data has to be mined from multiple online sources. Here, at WSG, is a great place to compile that info and report on what we know, or direct others to where local info can be located.

While I don't think posts should promote other "competing" spots, but it should be understood that knowing the resources iavailable is valuable to accurate reports here.

For instance, many large cities have alternative news sources that often have back pages for escorts and such to advertise and give contact info. Any traveller to an area should be aware of the resource and even how to get it online when available.

Banning this alternate data from being mentioned limits things for newbies and travellers. I'm sure you can see the value in these mediums.

Well...the same is true for other sources of classified info for escorts. XXXXXlist.org is just such a site. Its just advertising...and should not be banned.

Again, I'd like to see a dialog or here your thoughts on what is acceptable and not. If this is already stated some where explicitly, please forgive me and direct me.

Thanks for all you do. Oh...and happy new year, mis amigo!

Nico
02-08-04, 20:25
Is there any way to have a pop up come up letting members know that they have a private message? Somtimes a monger is needing to get some information like right away. For that night, and he sees a member on and messages him but doesn't get a response back till the next day or later.

World Traveler
02-21-04, 21:38
Jackson, if you want to maintain a sustainable web site, you need to maintain and enforce your guidelines more effectively. Here are some comments:

- Every once in a while remind all posters that this is a web site to find women for sex. Period. It is all about sharing and exchanging individual experiences. All discussions must be on-topic. Please ask us not to turn the posts to a personal playground for chatting, off-topic discussions, and especially POLITICS.

- Please respect the section topic and comment or ask under that section. Please don¡¯t questions about Thailand in a topic from the Europe section.

- All posts should meet standards for minimum contribution on the topic. How many times we read that after tens, hundreds posts a fellow punter is asking for information that has been discussed on several occasions. We are all obligated to meet minimum guideline for the purposes of this site. What is a report without quoting a price, area, location/address, and comments on the service?

- Screen those who may use the privileges given in this board to promote local businesses or personal interests, get tougher on them. Set higher standards. Screen short timers like you are doing now.

- (temporary) EXPELLE those who claim money is not an issue in their questions or comments.

- Set up new folders for newbies only. Lets discuses in those sections the no¡¯s that might turn a place from being a heaven to hell, Pattaya, Phonm Phen, Cebu, Angle City, ..... even Prague, Budapest. ..... To experienced hobbyists there is no other bigger danger than: newbies, want to be a punter, inexperienced hobbyists, and obnoxious flashers who could turn a place upside down in no time. We are all in it for the same reason, aren¡¯t we? I say lets go even further and limit the newbies on the number of posts they could have access to READ before they prove to the board that they have the capacity to observe what is being offered here in this board.

- I am afraid that if no steps are taken, some experienced fellow posters may refuse to discuss and share their latest discoveries just because they are afraid they may lose them before the chance to enjoy it again. Granted, I have taken several leads from this board and turned them to absolute fantastic trips. But I am not sure if those who may follow will be as discreet as I was when I explored it.

- Please remind us that photos are for the photo sections only. One or two photos to give heads up on what to expect. EXPELLE those posters who post photos from commercial porn sites. Give them warning first!

- Limit the graphic description of your encounters to short comments. Just enough for the pleasure of the readers, this is not an erotic storyboard, ... or is it?

- I guess the final comment is to remind everyone to please STAY ON-TOPIC and avoid asking repeated questions.

Kapalika
03-06-04, 22:10
MINIMUM POSTING SIZE REQUIREMENT

Jackson,

In my opinion, my suggestion of limiting postings to those that have 400 or more words, is a good idea. Dialogue quality will improve and people will feel more informed with fewer distractions. When you limit the posting size to a minimum of 400 words what happens? People are invited to give an hour in thei day to read and post messages.

This, I believe, is a crucial part of forming online communities. Limiting the discussion to well thought out postings only and cutting out ten and twenty line postings will then allow 40 line postings - the ones that tell a story and inform like no other- are worth reading. 40 lines, 400 words - 1 Hour. The number of postings will drop of to that which is well thought out 5 minute reading time. When a member feels that his posting has more value because there are fewer distractions - then an inner voice is heard. The members can feel confident in scanning the archives and finding an even more informative data base. When I do my research on databases, I go for the web site that can give me up to date, informed, well thought out opinions on a particular destination. I like to be able have that information at arms length - and not to wade through a whole page to find one message. The other day I was checking out Argentina and I basically spent the whole day gathering all the bits of information, accomodation, guides, clubs, websites etc. It was quite fun though.

Well then - I'm of my moms visiting tonight and I haven't seen her since new years. Oh and by the way, this posting is less than 400 words - cut it out!

SeniorCitizen
03-07-04, 11:28
Kapalika

I could not disagree more. The purpose of the board is not fixed in stone, different users have different objectives. Information is paramount, but doesn't need a minimum line size to be relevant. What purpose is served to use 400 lines to say that law enforcement is heavy in Lawrence MA or that Betty Boop in Lowell MA gives you sticky shorts in her finish?

If you read certain boards there is certainly a spirit of comradery established between members, and humor can become painful if dragged out too long, but is certainly found on many of the boards.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and you can read or post as you see fit, but most boards seem to find their own rythm and, with the rare exception where a member abuses other members, it is clearly working.

ChicagoBoy23
03-07-04, 15:35
This site is great. Don't change it.

Occasional abuse by uneducated or ill mannered mongers should not be allowed to kill the golden goose. Free exchange of information is the beauty of the internet. This is not an exclusive club or society. All are welcome but abusers are kicked out.

Keep it free and open !!!!!!

Civ2000
03-07-04, 16:29
Senior Citizen, I agree completely. If I had to use four hundred words to explain that there were lots of SW's working Aurora Avenue last night, people would get extremely bored and quit reading my posts. Since when is verbosity a virtue. I believe that short and concise posts make more sense.

Civ2000

Brownout
03-22-04, 12:03
extra care should be taken to differentiate posts that talk about differentiating real women from transsexual / shemale / transvestite, for a simple reason.

jackson says that this forum is for sex with women only. granted. if you want only sex with women, you'll come here expecting only to read about this. discussion on how to ferret out real women will be very helpful to prevent any disillusionment. it is known that many regions are replete with impostors. (i encountered one on lockhart rd, hong kong and he was jailed the very next day.)

jackson, you must be careful not to censor anything that talks about how to differentiate real women from transsexual / shemale / transvestite, unless it has other things that break forum rules.

hi,

your argument sounds good, and for the first year of the forum's existence i endeavored to make the distinction, but eventually i became aware of two phenomena that required me to adopt a zero tolerance policy:

1. the guys looking for this stuff would use carefully worded reports to disseminate the info to their like-minded perverts, and...

2. the subject could not be discussed openly under any circumstances because. like the discussions of **** persons, it would spark too many flame wars.

eventually, i decided to just stop all discussions on the subject.

thanks,

jackson

Atlanta Monger
03-23-04, 02:32
Jackson,

Regarding TS/TV content, you posted:
"Eventually, I decided to just stop all discussions on the subject."

Does that include passing references to areas or places (bars in Pattaya come to mind) that should be avoided due to heavy lady-boy content?

I've made a list of all those type places mentioned in the Pattaya forum (to be avoided on my trip), and personally thank the guys who have helped me steer clear of 'things in the dark' that I really don't want to see once I get there.

Just a thought,
Atlanta Monger

JimmyDR
03-25-04, 08:46
Jackson, your rules are great as usual.

One rule in Question, if you cant post e mail address's how do these guys sign up on the underground parties. Thay all have yahoo addresses??

Jimmy,

Can't everyone use the PM system to exchange their email address?

Perhaps there is some mis-understanding here: Email address are not permitted in the Forum, but you can exchange email address via PMs.

Thanks,

Jackson

Rene02
03-25-04, 10:02
About new members. I understand, Jackson, that you have more and more people who have registered since you have added the pictures sections for each country.

I have also notice downtimes those last days, mostly during the night (your time) which means daytime in Europe.

I believe there is no way to avoid people to register even if they do not contribute, however would it be possible, as a rule for any new suscriber, to ask a new member to provide at least 2 reports whitin a 1-week timeframe. Then the guys who are just looking for amateur picture would not want to write anything... and with not post within a week, the ID would be deleted ?

Freeler
03-25-04, 10:32
Jackson,

I like the idea of allowing new members in eventho the forum struggles with the allocated/paid bandwidth.
But I do think that new members should at least file a report or - even better - submit a photograph when applying and not just comply with username criteria.

Rene02
03-26-04, 03:41
I have registred to another website a year ago, a crap site for south america in fact, which I haven't really used. But at least, in order to register properly and be able to see all people's post, they required you to submit, with your application, 2 reports. 1 on your country or place you live in, one on another place you have visited. They make some checks to make sure what you write is not copy/paste from somewhere. Then, after 24 hours you get full access, but in order to keep your membership, you need to post something like 1 full report every six month (if I remember).

Jackson, I think this would be a good way to start with. Ask the new members to submit at least 1 full report, something like 50,000 characters or so.

BreezeWater
03-26-04, 04:40
As a poster of photos I have a problem with lurkers. If the new crop of applications is in an attempt to continue lurking-which is probably 80% of the new herd of apps-then create some posting rule as membership requirement. Simple as that. I just don't like lurkers. Not on this site.

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to add a spaces periods at the ends of sentences. To avoid delays in future reports, please include one blank space after the period at the end of sentences. Thanks!

Brownout
03-26-04, 05:06
50,000 characters are too much. What we want is substance in the posts rather than a lengthy one.

RedDog
03-26-04, 08:21
Jackson,

I agree with renee on the below post, but that is not the reason for the post. I saw you coment about "milky boy" in the latavia section. I would like to have then removed. I think you could add to the posting guidlines not diliberate repatition.
Also last year one new member posted in ever eastern european topic that he will be there in a few months and would like information. I understand that this can not be totallyavoided but i think a anti repitiion rule would give cause to delete both posters messages.


anyway that is my opinion for what it is worth.

Brownout
03-26-04, 09:52
The meaning of 'general BS' can be broadened to include 'deliberate repetition' within a short time interval. But if the same information is repeated more than 1 month or 3 pages apart, repetition may become necessary.

Hi,

Actually, posting repetive postings is already defined as spam.

Thanks,

Jackson

Warpig2000
03-27-04, 12:52
Jackson, as far as to your plan as stated below:


If your proposed User Name conforms with the User Name Guidelines, it will be activated on March 25th or 26th.
If your proposed User Name conforms with the User Name Guidelines EXCEPT that you did not capitalize the first letter, then it will be edited and subsequently activated between March 27th and April 2nd.
If your proposed User Name conforms with the User Name Guidelines EXCEPT that you did not parse two otherwise separate words, then it will be edited and subsequently activated between March 27th and April 2nd.
If your proposed User Name is an unpronounceable word or was otherwise formulated without any consideration for the User Name Guidelines, then it will be edited and subsequently activated sometime between April 3rd and April 10th


I would agree on your processing the proposed names that conform but need editting after the ones that conform. As far as the ones you are putting off to April 3-10, the unpronounceable or non-conforming-in-any-way names..... If I were you I would send the lot of them a form letter saying sorry, you are going to have to re-apply for membership and let them get to the back of the new line with a decent screen name. No reason to coddle people who can not or will not make an effort to choose a name which fits the forum. Just my .02

Raider
03-27-04, 16:26
Hi Jackson , Like you I also think that the new wannabe members are just applying for membership to be able to view the pictures .If they really had something to post on this forum they would have become members a long time ago.

On the thought of having them post at least one mongering report.Here's my take on that.It will actually prompt the new members to post frivilrous reports or maybe even a false report to gain membership and that will not be of any benefit to this forum.

One suggestion would be to propose a trial membership period in which the new members can be screened out later on as to if they have been compliant to forum policies.I do understand that this means more work for you Jackson.But I am sure you will make the right decision like you always do.Anyways I am with you in whatever decision you make.

Raider

Farang Steve
03-27-04, 16:59
Pictures should not be seen by all members maybe, but rather only by members who have posted some pictures themselves.
So we would avoid lurkers and mongers would have more motivation to take pictures. It is much more easier to write a fake report than to post a fake picture.
If members are not interested in taking pictures, then why would they be interested in watching pictures?

Marconista
03-27-04, 17:52
Being a Senior Member myself it may not seem correct to suggest it, but how about only Senior Members being able to view photos.

That way Jackson will be in full control, as he will evaluate the posts of the Regular Member before upgrading him, and then at the same time let him view the pics.

I guess it may be difficult to make the changes to the Forum that Farang Steve propose; that you can only view pix after having posted pix yourself. Just thinking out loud!

Gladiator
03-28-04, 14:49
In order to deal with the excesive use of bandwidth, I would start by applying a zero tolerance to the posting of useless photos: they should be deleted as soon as possible to stop everyone from seeing them and wasting bandwith.

By useless photos I mean any photos which are not related directly to the hobby. Plenty of photos are being posted on a daily basis which have absolutely nothing to do with finding women: they show neither women nor places where you can find women, they only show tourist attractions, views of cities or they are directly copied and pasted from news websites. They represent the biggest waste of bandwith I can think of.

According to the current guidelines photos must be:

1. Taken personally by the poster

AND

2. Show women or places

I would modify condition number 2 to 'show women or places that are directly related to finding women (e.g. Pick-up bars or clubs, Massage parlours, SW areas, etc)'.

Any photos posted that don't comply with conditions 1 AND 2 should be considered as spam and deleted.

Those spam pictures don't contribute in any way to the purpose of this site.

I know this is not going to solve the problem of excessive use of bandwith but it will definitely help to reduce it.

Rene02
03-29-04, 03:04
Ok, I have to review my statement on a potential mandatory 1st report to gain membership.

It is true that if we request new members a full report in order to receive their membership, they may write whatever, which would maybe be not true at all, and therefore it would not help us.

On the fact that we should post picts to be able to see pics ? I do not agree. I do not carry my camera all the time, and many girls do not allow pics. Moreover I do not want my wife to find my digital camera, and see a woman naked on some pics !

Maybe the last solution is to ask 10$ for people who want to see the forum and the pics...

Freeler
03-29-04, 10:00
Rene02,

"they may write whatever, which would maybe be not true at all, and therefore it would not help us."

There will always be a senior member who will detect a BS post...

Rene02
03-30-04, 03:36
Yes I agree...
well, then I think there is nothing we can do.

Or remove the pictures section, but this would be a shame.

Or another idea. When registring, a member has to state where he lives and in which country / place he is interested. Then he can't browse the reports and pics from his place and the single country / place in which he has interest. Then let's say that after 2 posts and 1 month of active browsing, he can see the whole forum.

Joe Zop
03-30-04, 09:55
The logic of the last post utterly escapes me -- why would you prevent someone from seeing things about their areas of interest and locale, when it's most likely they'd have information to contribute about those areas?

In any event, this is all too complicated. Simply restricting picture viewing to members, and having a process of culling regular members who haven't posted or logged in after X amount of months of membership would save substantial bandwidth and simplify everything.

Boxcc
04-02-04, 12:05
Joe Zop, I agree with you. I think restricting the viewing of pictures to members only is a good idea. I also like the idea kicking members who have never posted or who haven't posted in X number of months. That would help get rid of all the damn lurkers!

That would save bandwidth for all the truly depraved mongers like us! lol.

Cronin
04-04-04, 02:32
I've just about given up on trying to get people to post photos in the photo gallery. I know Jackson has also made a valiant effort several times.

No matter how many reminders get posted that this is a "photos only" section, there is always a hundred newbies that want to impress everyone with their brilliant erudition on this or that inane topic. That prompts someone else to impress us with their opinion, and it goes on and on...

Wouldn't it be great if the program could select for jpg images when people tried to post? No jpg, no post. I know it does this for message size and even banned words. This wouldn't restrict the comments, but it would make the inclusion of a photo the "price of admission" for posting comments to the photo gallery. Oh well, probably just wishful thinking.

Cronin

RearWindow
04-04-04, 23:01
I would agree with Cronin that the Photo Sections be jpg posting restricted, with minimum descriptions added. Maybe make the "minimum" standards used for senior status upgrade requirements the standard for photo gallery viewing.My two monetary units.

Rene02
04-05-04, 03:20
But do not forget that some people have no pics to post...

For example myself, I have made some post on the Saudi board, but trust me there is no way one can take a pic of those women...

Cronin
04-05-04, 14:18
Rene,

So if they don't have photos, then why post anything at all on the Photo Gallery? If you/they don't have a photo to put on the gallery, why do people feel they have some burning need to register their opinion. And you can plainly see, its not just their opinions of the photos. Its pages upon pages of arcane nonsense.

Are their family photo albums at home filled with pages of comments about grandma's latest surgery complications or sister's problems interacting with people of different races? No. They're filled with photos...right?

Thank you's can be PM'd. Comments can be PM'd. Discussions can be posted to general discussions. Just possibly there could be another section added for Photo Discussions. But frankly, I for one would never log into it. They are NEVER as interesting as the photos themselves.

Just my arcane opinion.

Cronin

Brownout
04-10-04, 10:32
I would suggest relaxing the prohibition of repetitive posting when it comes to something relatively non-temporal. Examples include 'hot' districts, legal issues, local custom or modus operandi etc.

Most forum users are expected to read back no more than 10 pages without compelling reasons. When time passes, postings scroll down at various rates. If a particular article scrolls beyond a certain point, the author may feel the need to re-post it. The prohibition should be relaxed more if more additions or revisions of the information are made.

Richard1
04-18-04, 15:33
You have to make it a complicated enough process to become a "picture viewer" that people can't just post a series of photos or posts some day and wait for it to happen. But simple enough that all the main people who post here (generally defined as senior members) have access.

I think the senior member method as suggested below or even something a little more demanding is the best.

That may have a side effect of making us a slightly more exclusive club in the long run by having a few less regular members (those who don’t really want to post more than once in a LONG time but keep coming here for the pictures) of course those are probably the people costing more than they are worth.

The E
04-26-04, 19:52
I would like to suggest that the forum rules be changed to reflect the legal age of consent (LAC) in the area of the report. For instance, the LAC in Alabama is 16, but is 18 in Tennessee. If the activity is not illegal, then I believe that people should have a right to post about it. Here is a link to the LAC for different countries and states. I use this like a bible when I travel just in case something is in question. Many countries LAC is as low as 13 for females.

I myself do not participate in sex tours or mess with individuals under the LAC. I believe that this forum should reflect the laws that are enforced in each country.

http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm

The existing Forum rules shall remain in effect. There shall be no discussion of any person or persons under the age of 18 on this website.

Jackson

LoveLOS
04-28-04, 01:33
Gee Jackson,
I know how you feel about child molestors. Any comments on Mr E's stated personal preferences? I personally find the need to carry such a reference while travelling quite repugnant.

LoveLOS

Freeler
04-28-04, 10:32
LoveLos,

Needless to say I totally agree with what you're saying.

The E said: "I believe that this forum should reflect the laws that are enforced in each country."
Does The E mean that illegal activities in general can not be mentioned on these pages?
That would mean a nice little clean up, leaving only the Singapore and The Netherlands sections...

Child abuse is child abuse, the LAC is not meant for grown ups to see how low they can go and definitely not for paid sex with minors, it is meant for people of similar age to get together without too much hassle.

I very much doubt the reasons behind making sites that show 'legal ages of consent'.

The E
04-28-04, 14:12
my previous post was not meant to offend anyone, nor was it meant to show my "personal preferences". being in my 20's i am probably one of the younger posters on this board. i have been in the hunt since i was 16 years old. i do it for the sheer thrill. i am not a child molester, nor do i have an interest in **** girls. but younger guys may be interested in finding younger girls. i was a member of this board back before it was in this great format and i wanted to find "younger" girls becasue i didn't want to mess with old farts. but at the time i was like 19 or 20 so i was always looking for girls that were around my age. and like i said, the lac in alabama is 16, so i was always looking for girls between 16 to about 20. i love my freedom too much to break any laws conerning the lac. i am positive that almost every guy, at least once in his life has meet a "younger" girl and he should be aware of the lac where he is.

i mean, why turn down perfectly good pussy if it's legal? and i have read many post time and time again where they wanted to and the girl solicited them, but they turned it down because she was 17 and he failed to realize that she was the lac.

and as far as the comment concerning this forum reflecting the laws associated with each country/ state... i was referring to the lac (like you didn't already know that). being caught with a prostitute is one thing... being caught with an **** prostitute is another.

and one last point. i'm not sure if you guys are aware of this, but there are some places in the world where the lac is above 18. 18 is a standard that american's just have stamped onto thier brain, but the truth is that it doesn't apply to many states or to the rest of the world. that's why i made the suggestion. no need to start a flame war about it. this website is all about posting information. i only wanted to add more useful information to the site.

LoveLOS
04-28-04, 22:11
E,
Thank you for clarifying your position. I agree it is one matter to have sex when you were a child also, but I have to think back to my teenage years and reflect the maturity and decision making abilities of my conquests of those days:

My conclusion is that, despite the LAC, a sixteen yr old girl is still a child in a woman's body, and an adult needs to respect how fragile she is at that stage of development. Now that you are an adult, I seriously urge you to consider the effect your actions have. A child will likely be more deeply affected by your actions than would another adult who has the mental and physical maturity to deal with a sexual situation.

Hell, 18 is probably too young also, as you note, but that is where the line is drawn in much of the world, and, significantly, that is where Jackson drew the line for us.

And I thank Jackson for clarifying his position in the matter also...

This does not constitute a flame, just a statement of a strong opinion. Just becaue something is legal, does not make it acceptable, and visa-versa. Nobody much gives a rats ass about legality on this forum anyway, in case you haven't checked the local laws in most states in the USA, PROSTITUTION is illegal here; but that is still the topic of the day on this forum!

You also make note that 16 year olds are not in your "personal preferences," unless, of course, they happen to be in Alabama, where they are at top of the list ("perfectly good pussy"). Somehow that just does not make sense to my feeble reasoning.

LoveLOS

The E
04-28-04, 23:01
LoveLOS

Truthfully... pussy is pussy to me. Whether it's 18 YO pussy or 35 YO pussy.

If I am attracted to the female, she's the LAC, and she let's me fuck her, I most likely will. I am not going to go to jail over pussy and therefore I follow the established laws, whether they be in Alabama or Pakistian.

We can sit here and debate when a female is old enough to make her own decisions about sex. Some may think it's younger, some may think it's older... heck, I have female friends that consider girls under 21 stupid, dumb, and vernable regardless of what the law states. But if you fucked a willing 20 YO does that make you a bad man? It's all a matter of opinion. You say 18 and I say LAC, whatever that may be. But I will again warn you...

The LAC in some places is ABOVE 18. So please don't go on the rest of your life thinking that 18 is the golden number. You may end up behind bars and have to register every time you move into a new neighborhood.

LoveLOS
04-28-04, 23:24
E-ster,
I am very clear on the OVER 18 in some localities issue. Perhaps you would be good enough to catalog and post a warning for the localities in which 18yos are considered jailbait? That would be helpful.

I previously agreed with your assessment that some women are still childish and immature at 21. However, in most places they are still considered a woman, not a child.

I also agree with the statement that pussy is pussy in the 18YO - 35YO catagory.

Where we seem to disagree is in your comments that 13YO to 17YO pussy is also fuckable pussy if she is unfortunate enough to reside in a locale that has lawmakers that are not particularly protective of young girls. My opinion is that she is a child, your opinion is that she is fair game for fucking.

I think I have stated my concerns as well as I can, and I feel I understand your thinking. So I guess we will have to agree to disagree since we have little common ground on our points of contention. Others may be less charitable. Also be aware that Jackson has now made his ruling on your comments and you are advocating a position that is not in agreement with his preferences and forum rules.

Be safe,
LoveLOS

Atlanta Monger
04-29-04, 06:09
Jackson,

You have clearly stated your opinion on this matter, yet The E still insists upon discussing sex with girls under the age of 18 -- reference his comments in several posts below:
"If I am attracted to the female, she's the LAC, and she let's me fuck her, I most likely will"
"why turn down perfectly good pussy if it's legal?"
"It's all a matter of opinion. You say 18 and I say LAC, whatever that may be."
"pussy is 'pussy"

Frankly, I'm shocked that LoveLOS, skinless, Freeler, and others haven't already turned him into smoking cinders, but the flaming is sure to escalate unless this kiddie-fucker is stopped NOW.

Please remove this pervert from the forum.

Thanks,
- Atlanta Monger

Boxcc
04-29-04, 08:40
I am going to move my comments to the complaints about other members section. The E-hole is at it again, and he must be stopped!

Freeler
04-29-04, 10:03
Dear Atlanta Monger,

The E no doubt is a kiddyfucker, but exposing one before didn't help - he did not get banned and is now paying a premium for something special in Bangkok.
We are no fools and we know what he means by that.
These sickfucks will always find a way to convince themselves that they are not sickfucks - but they are.

Skinless
04-29-04, 10:05
Freeler: Read TFF to see where Atlanta Monger stood on this issue. He should be monitored closely.

Mighty Spearsman
04-29-04, 10:39
i totally support jackson's stance on this issue - no discussion of children under the age of 18!

some posters seem to have forgotten that it's not just a moral issue or jackson's personal beliefs, it's also a legal issue. if wsg ever starts to discuss **** sex in earnest, then the forum will open itself up to legal scrutiny and possibly be shut down for good. and if wsg is shut down, then we all lose out.

if "the e" wants to go someplace where the lac is lower than 18 (as low as 13 in some countries, if not lower), then he is welcome to do so quietly, on his own time. but i don't need or want to read about it here on wsg.

TrashMan
04-29-04, 10:45
EHole,
I remember you from the past on this board, probably in the NOVA forum as being particularly obnoxious in your presentation of contrary viewpoints. While I am in support of the basic premise of "freedom of speach", that does not extend to this subject, not because I have some self-appointed young girl guardian delusions, but rather because it brings unwanted and unecessary attention from LE who specifically scan these type boards for illegal activity discussions. By so doing, you are not only in violation of Jackson's rules on this subject, but are more importantly potentially endangering fellow members.
You are very well aware of the majority of the members viewpoint on this sensitive subject so my question for you is "Why bring it up at all?" Is it merely to get a rise out of people so that you get what I perceive to be the attention you crave, but do not get? Well, it's the WRONG kind of attention dude! I have no problem with you having any personal predilictions in the sexual department, just learn to keep your mouth shut when they will cause problems. As you can see by the number of negative posts here alone in this slightly obscure little corner, this is NOT a subject that many are interested in. Drop it!

OttoGraham
04-29-04, 11:23
The E,

With all the distinguished attacks you've been subjected to of late, let me urge you not to rise to the bait.

Also remember the famous phrase:

Illegitimi non carborundum.

And personally, I think there is a world of difference between 18 year old and 35 year old pussy. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. Best to sample both on a regular basis.

-Uncle Otto

LoveLOS
04-29-04, 21:27
And personally, I think there is a world of difference between 18 year old and 35 year old pussy. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. Best to sample both on a regular basis.Well spoken, I am pleased that we agree on something - LOL

Have a great day,
LoveLOS

Atlanta Monger
04-29-04, 21:53
Rev. Skinless,

To save y'all time RTFF, here is my one and only post (dated 2-22-2004) regarding the "under 18" subject prior to The E recently bringing it back to light:

www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=179789#post179789


Jackson,

I agree 100% with ChicagoBoy23. I think your previous policy of the topic being completely forbidden in any context is the safest choice for all concerned.

If the WSG forum is truly for "men seeking women...", then there is no real need to ever mention children here.

I advocate the removal of all posts related to the topic, including the dedicated forum thread.

I don't consider this to be an infringement of free speech, just smart moderating - something you do quite well.

Thanks for your consideration.

Regards,
Atlanta Monger
But thanks for keeping an eye out for me!

- AM

Skinless
04-29-04, 23:55
Freeler: As only one example, check out this Letter to the Editor from Atlanta Monger on 18 February. Some of us do RTTF and some of us do fuck legal age only. And we do not want to be associated with AM and others who are in denial of their own (criminal) tendencies. AM is not a serious person. Same same BJ.

nta Monger
Senior Member
Reports: 133
Jackson (editor),

While I fully support your efforts for this fine forum, I think most members (senior and otherwise) have had about enough of the Skinless rant.

Not content to flame away in the special forum you provided, he has now moved his personal battle to other forum threads, including this one. None of his recent posts belong here, as they are NOT 'letters to the editor'.

I understand that Skinless has been a frequent and valuable contributor in the past, but no more - he's merely become a nuisance.

Please act on the behalf of all forum members to reduce the impact of this tirade - perhaps ban him to his own personal rant thread, i.e. Samus Aram?

Thanks,
Atlanta Monger

Joe Zop
04-30-04, 01:00
Gee, so now daring to disagree at any point with the tactics of the great Skinless automatically means one is a closet pedophile, no matter whatever else one posts. What a crock.

Watch yourself, AM.

Freeler
04-30-04, 01:56
Skinless,

DAMMIT: You're on vacation.
Go fuck 'Tet', Dah1, Dah2, Dah3 , Dah4, Nik, CC, Toothlady, Som and the rest of 'em!

Skinless
04-30-04, 03:35
jackson: please note, yet again, the dismissive attitude zop and the other suspects adopt to having sex with minors. this is the slippery slope. as i have read zop's "work" and as i cannot help but to fall over his posts which pepper the entire site, i stand over my comments. the fact that that lump of shit labels fucking legal age women with under age girls is the very same tactic nambla adopt. but what ese can we explain from a wanker?

freeler: i now see zop, the most disgusting of all our contributors, has surfaced here. this would be poet, said he was finished with me as if i was one of the **** "women" who stock the blow job bars and who he can dismiss with a small baht bill. the fact is every single one of the assholes who took the traveller road have serious cases to answer. none more so than el sicko himself, the m muse.

am flames away defending advocates of child sex prostitution and like bill clinton, he cannot remember. some of us do rtff - and some of actually cotnribute information.

zop meanwhile, has most recently helped to fuck up the pattaya board with lbj,. the great lawyer and defender of traveller, and a few other geniuses.

zop, stick to your hypocrisy. go write a fucking poem. or, to put it aother way, please jerk off somewhere else. you disgust me more than anyone else here. so please fuck off you bald headed fake.

freeler: no sign of toothlady. you must have spoiled her. also, in nong khai, the deaf and dumb one left the white brothel. avoid her replacement.

Atlanta Monger
04-30-04, 07:23
skinless, get a life.

my position on the **** issue is crystal clear, and in total alignment with that of jackson's.

in my 'letter to the editor' post, i didn't defend traveler; i expressed an opinion regarding your nonstop and overzealous tactics that were polluting the forum at the time.

although your purpose at the time may have been lofty, your chosen approach was the low road, full of fabrication and lies (very similar to what you're doing again now).

anybody with a brain who can read tff knows that, and your current lies about me won't change anybody's mind.

you see, there is more than one way to skinless a cat. i don't need to be a ranting and lying fool to get my point across.

- am

Joe Zop
04-30-04, 11:20
Jackson, please note again that Skinless cannot understand the difference between disliking with his hyperbolic lynch mob posts and being against sex with minors. He feels one cannot possibly be against sex with minors and still manage to disagree with his disgusting and divisive McCarthy-like smear tactics.

Skinless, I said I was finished with you because you stopped being the reasonable and delightful poster with whom I had many interesting back-and-forth discussions over the last couple of years and decided instead to lash out at anyone who at all disagreed with you in the slightest way. Your last post simply reinforces that fact.

LoveLOS
04-30-04, 20:16
Rev,
I see now why you are pissed at AM, but AM is not defending your antangonist (the T word), nor child prostitution in his comment. On the other hand, he is in complete agreement with you on those matters. I don't see the conflict?

I ask you, as a friend on this forum, to back down on this one.

LoveLOS

Brownout
05-03-04, 15:37
in the midst of rows about sex with **** i have noticed that jackson has banned at least 3 users in a row because of their responses to the photos of muslim women. i think the policy of posting photos of muslim women needs serious review.

Atlanta Monger
05-04-04, 01:42
Brownout,

Jackson has already given the matter of posting Muslim photos serious review, as evidenced by his policy statement below dated 03-13-04:

http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=189236#post189236

Personally, I think he sums it up quite well.

- AM

Brownout
05-10-04, 02:27
I urge Admin to refine the already-existing policy about posting photos of women in Islamic countries and about treatment of repetitive postings.

What would you suggest?

Warpig2000
06-05-04, 16:08
I know I'm flogging a dead horse here, but I have a wonderful picture that says it all about the filtered word that spelled phonetically would be: Bee Eye Tee Sea eightch.

This was found on an SP's website; http://www.westsidepet.com and is cross-posted with permission. I found it a refreshing example of a sexworker 'reclaiming' a derogatory word to make it something complimentary.

Visaman
07-10-04, 05:15
What's "draconian" about asking people to use correct capitalization and puncutation?

I wouldn't go as far to say it's draconian, but it has a certain Niles Crane quality to it. I can see you fliting around the room your face red, because someone forgot to add a period at the end of a sentence. : -)

Ryck
07-19-04, 04:50
Just a small suggestion:

Forums are generally full of messages between two members that are really not giving any information on how to find pros or non-pros in the given area. I think those messages should be forbidden as the members can send Private Messages to each other.

Ryck

Lover Boy
07-27-04, 17:13
Ryck,

Good try but failed attempt.

Ryck
Regular Member
Reports: 8

Just a small suggestion:

Forums are generally full of messages between two members that are really not giving any information on how to find pros or non-pros in the given area. I think those messages should be forbidden as the members can send Private Messages to each other.

Ryck

Rock Dog
08-14-04, 00:10
Greetings to everyone,

I don't see what's wrong with Ryck's suggestion. There are so many frivolous postings being made all the time. Many, if not most, of them are being made by senior members.

One guy will post a pic in a photo section. Then you get 5 or 6 guys piling on with posts saying "great pic, you da man" or "she's ugly, woof woof". Pretty soon you have a photo section filled with B.S. postings rather than pics.

If someone really needs to comment on a pic, why not ask them to do so by pm? It would clean up a lot of the clutter and reduce Jackson's workload. It seems like it could be easy to enforce also. If it's a worthless post, Jackson could simply delay posting it for a week or not even post it at all.

After a while, the clutter posters would give up because the reward of seeing their dumb comments would no longer be there.
Nibu Raphael might go into shock from "posting withdrawal" but that's a small price to pay ;).

Just my 2 cents worth on this subject.

Rock

Rolly Polly
08-18-04, 12:15
So there should be absolutely no social interaction on the open forum? Kind of rediculous don't you think?

Now if there is a poster who only gives props and conversational type posts without ever adding to the useful database this site exists for, then you may have an individualized complaint.

A forum with nothing but facts has no personality and would become obsolete.

Daddy Lows
08-18-04, 13:58
Rolly,

Ditto.

Ryck and Rock,

Sometimes, I agree with the "woof, woof" stuff and whatnot but WTF, if one cannot express their own opinions, then the boards would be totally lifeless. In addition, banning commentary would entail another duty for the overworked Jackson! If anything, posting opinions (along with field reports) makes the boards better overall. In a way, we're getting feedback from our peers. I've gotten lots of good advice concerning a ROB I've encountered last week. It's all part of the sharing aspect of the boards. BTW, Jackson gave Nibu his own forums across the boards for his rants. He explained it himself in the Letters to the Editor a while back. If you don't want to be bothered by Nibu's extreme questions and posts, then don't click on his forums. Simple, huh? That said, the Thai Photo Gallery is beyond help. At least eltib's movie posting temporarily stalled the long missives. I miss the pics of the Thai humpers a lot. ;)


Jackson,

Thanks for a great site and all the work you do for us.

Peace

Rock Dog
08-18-04, 22:13
DL,

I understand where you're coming from. There's been lot's of times when I've seen pics posted and I really felt like adding my own encouraging comments. But, I almost always hold back because I see what happens to a photo section when everyone piles on with their 2 cents worth. You end up with 3 or 4 pics in a row separated by a whole page worth of non-contributing comments where everyone is saying pretty much the same thing.

It's easy to express your comments be they postive or negative. There's a simple way to do it. Just send the guy a private message. You get to express your opinion. It reaches the person without any delay and the photo section stays fairly clear.

Sometimes, I get the feeling that a lot of the posts going up are done because the member is just trying to get some attention or jack up the number of their posts. Not naming any names, but I know of at least a couple of WSG members with well over 100 posts who contributed maybe 7 or 8 quality posts, got their senoir memberships and have been BS'ing ever since.

BTW, I was just kidding around about Nibu. He just happens to represent the most extreme example of what I was talking about. I never advocated a ban on such postings anyways. All I suggested was that Jackson could easily discourage it by delaying or not posting some of them at all. That would seem to have the additional benefit of actually reducing his workload.

It was just an idea. Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion. In the end, it's all Jackson's show anyways.

Rock

Elegante Rei
08-22-04, 01:08
Jackson,

Ignore my previous post regarding 'search' function. I just read the 'Letters to the Editor' topic and understand the situation.

Thanks for a great site.

ER

Member #5605
09-14-04, 10:20
Here's a suggested (and will probably be ignored!) rule!: Mongers need to know some damn geography! Its pathetic to see a post about an SW/AMP in one area that is NOWHERE NEAR the area of that forum (e.g. a post about Pomona, CA in the "Los Angeles" section!). Of course if this board was more "geography-friendly", this would not be a problem. Then again, if the MODERATOR actually paid attention to what the problem is, and FIXED IT, it would not be a problem!

Member #2001
09-14-04, 21:57
Who cares about California anyway.

Maybe I will post everywhere and anywhere on that board just to confuse, and irritate you. What do you think about that redneck?

Rocky Mtn Man
09-14-04, 22:20
Repetative postings in the Photo sections are a waste of band width. The area should be for photos. Even I have done the "Atta Boy" thing to some pictures although it is very rare that I do. The only exception is if there is a picture of children in the photo section. I think this should be brought to the attention of the poster that it is in bad taste.

There is no place for picts of kids in a web site devoted to sex. I know it is sometimes hard to tell the differece between a 16 and an 18 year old girl, but if the child is obviously 10 to 14 it is usually easy to tell. As far as I am concerned it does not matter the situation, even if it is a harmless pict of kids at the beach building a sand castle. It either belongs at a disney site, or a pedofiles site.

I dont know how you would police this Jackson. Maybe it is impractical, maybe not, but I think it should be done.

RMM

Terry Terrier
11-13-04, 05:42
Hello Jackson

I have noted increased use of the word 'skank', referring to prostitutes, on the Forum. Am I the only poster who finds this word derogatory and de-humanising? Surely, it should be put on the banned list.

On a different and more important topic, I see that the performance of the new software is improving daily. We all appreciate the great work.

TT

eltib
12-02-04, 16:49
Thanx,

I'm glad I brought some excitement to the forum.


Rolly,

That said, the Thai Photo Gallery is beyond help. At least eltib's movie posting temporarily stalled the long missives. I miss the pics of the Thai humpers a lot. ;)


Jackson,

Thanks for a great site and all the work you do for us.

Peace

Gudel
12-11-04, 20:40
Here's a suggested (and will probably be ignored!) rule!: Mongers need to know some damn geography! Its pathetic to see a post about an SW/AMP in one area that is NOWHERE NEAR the area of that forum (e.g. a post about Pomona, CA in the "Los Angeles" section!). Of course if this board was more "geography-friendly", this would not be a problem. Then again, if the MODERATOR actually paid attention to what the problem is, and FIXED IT, it would not be a problem!I agreed with this gentleman. Similar problem with Santa Barbara forum, people who are living an hour and a half away posting it there!

At least in your case Pomona is about 25 miles away from LA. Non geographic compliant posters in the Santa Barbara forum are living 60 to 80 miles away!

I love poon, but there is little point of driving 80 miles and come back for another 80 miles to just get one pop. Very annoying indeed, please make it stop, show them the light to the "Other Area's forum.

Taco Malo
09-12-05, 20:42
Great site and great people. 98% of my experiences with the site and the people on it have been great. But I'm starting to notice a disturbing trend on the Illinois board - don't know if it's gone over to the states as well.

It's the infamous "Has anyone seen _________ from Craig's List" post.

If you go to Chicago Craig's List the site is swamped with these annoying and useless posts. Which is why I was excited to see a Craig's List review section here as I hoped it would cut through the crap on that weak (but potentially useful) site. Well, those posts are starting to migrate over here - mainly on the CL section, but they have begun to fan out into other city specific sections as well.

It's not a lot, and it's not like every post I have put up is strictly a report, but since I've seen the first one, I've begun to see them multiply. It's like being infested by cockroaches.

Just some food for thought. "Have you seen _______" 1 line posts that add nothing should be deleted before they infest this near flawless forum.

And while I'm here...yeah this Craig's List stuff is a pet peeve of mine...the CL Reviews section should be about exactly that. Reviews and getting info on women. There's a ton of useless crap up there that is basically turning that section into a chat room about the misadventures of Craig's List posters, and the wacky things they post! A freaking message board about a message board!

Sorry had to vent. Peace

Best Tx Monger
09-22-05, 18:11
I must un-willingly agree with some of the members on this specific thread in reference to photos and the on-slaught of useless comments that fellow Mongers make.

I have noticed that more specifically on the International Site but more specifically on the Brazil Photo Section. I have seen a guy post a photo and an onslaught of useless comments ensue the photo. I have gradually seen that trend on the usa guide but it has been to a minimal extent.

Just wanted to vent and ensure others that they are not the only ones that have noticed this un-yielding trend.

Regards,
007

Member #3948
09-24-05, 17:13
I enjoy the photo section with one exception. I think the rule for posting a photo only of someone who you have had sex with should apply. Pictures of potiential SW or cut and copy remakes of Craigs List pictures are lame.

It is more of a trophy when you have put your time and effort into getting a picture of a woman you have been with. It takes balls enough to find and have sex with these women. Getting a picture is taking it to the next level.

Snapping a picture out the window and posting it is a waste of time with the exception of warning Mongers of who to be wary of. IMHO, Steel Blue.

The other suggestion I have is a spell check for us Mongers who are "accidamecially disencliened". See what I mean!

Mister Quick
05-03-06, 11:14
Not sure if this is the proper place for this or not.

Was wondering what the rule is on editing a a post one has made. Some time I see an old report of mine andit can be edited other times not. One I wanted to edit today whihc I posted yesterday I was not allowed to.

At other times I have seen ones I made weeks ago that I have been given the option of editing.

Seems so of random to me.

Old Moman
07-11-06, 14:53
I have recently added several reviews of providers and do not see the review count under my user ID change. Am I missing something?

Old Moman

Double Nickle
11-12-06, 19:41
I think the use of blue text which is reserved to Jackson does not include links in blue. I have seen at least one post where the poster says blue links are only allowed to be used by Jackson. Tell me I am right.

It is OK if I post a blue link to a commercial website such as a massage parlor site unless I have some sort of affiliation to the site. Correct? If I have any affiliation I should only post under classified ads. Right? How about if I play safe and only post this type of info to classified ads?

Double Nickle

Wallie
11-16-06, 03:28
I think the use of blue text which is reserved to Jackson does not include links in blue. I have seen at least one post where the poster says blue links are only allowed to be used by Jackson. Tell me I am right.

It is OK if I post a blue link to a commercial website such as a massage parlor site unless I have some sort of affiliation to the site. Correct? If I have any affiliation I should only post under classified ads. Right? How about if I play safe and only post this type of info to classified ads?

Double Nickle
Not sure about the second part of your question, so I won't even attempt an answer.

However, the blue law is in effect. However, due to web standards, a hyper-link on any webpage will appear blue by default. Jackson could change this, but blue is somewhat an expected color online for hyperlinks. If you post a link in a report, it will appear blue automatically. I'm sure this is not a violation of the Blue Law, as the Forum software colors the links automatically.

You can change the color of the the link you type if want, and add italics, etc., like I have, in any of your posts using VB script. A link to how to use VB is here: (OK, I just can' resist changing the color to show you what I mean.) http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/misc.php?do=bbcode


(OK, I just can' resist changing the color to show you what I mean.)
Ooops, nope. You can't change the color of the link. The forum's software seems to over-ride the VB Script for a URL color link automatically. My bad.

However, VB does work for italics bold, etc.

Wallie

Big Red50
01-07-07, 23:59
I enjoy the photo section with one exception. I think the rule for posting a photo only of someone who you have had sex with should apply. Pictures of potiential SW or cut and copy remakes of Craigs List pictures are lame.

It is more of a trophy when you have put your time and effort into getting a picture of a woman you have been with. It takes balls enough to find and have sex with these women. Getting a picture is taking it to the next level.

Snapping a picture out the window and posting it is a waste of time with the exception of warning Mongers of who to be wary of. IMHO, Steel Blue.

The other suggestion I have is a spell check for us Mongers who are "accidamecially disencliened". See what I mean!Hey Steel Blue:

I agree whole heartedly Blue Steel, I do need Monger Spell Check, I have been flamed for my spelling, see report by Big Red50 10/24/06 Baltimore-General Reports #2225

I have a pointed question for learned Senior Members

Should we post CL photo re-prints for CL reviews?

There are members, whom do not think we should post CL re-printed photos.

I have also reprinted the USG Rules-Photo Guidelines, yes I do RTFF Bench.

What’s allowed.
The following types of photographs are acceptable for publication in the Forum:
•Photographs taken by you of women in any state of dress or undress.
•Photographs taken by you documenting your travels, including photos of hotels, restaurants, cuisine, street scenes, beach scenes, night clubs and tourist attractions.
•Photographs of escorts copied from escort websites.
•Reports accompanying photographs should identify the city, country and approximate date of the photograph.

What’s Not Allowed
The following types of photographs ARE NOT acceptable for publication in the Forum:
•Photographs copied from other websites, unless you are the original photographer.

PLEASE NOTE: Given the difficulties in verifying photos suspected to have been copied from other websites, said photos will not be investigated unless I am contacted by the webmaster directly.
If you suspect that another forum member is posting photographs copied from other websites, you are encouraged to challenge them in The Forum.
End of USG Rules-Photo Guidelines

Big Red Comments:

CL Photos are of escorts copied from escort websites and are clearly allowed. These CL providers change their names so often you need a photo to identify them. Since I don’t have the balls to take and post photos of myself and SW’s, all I post are photos of providers, I have seen or want to see.

Like to hear from other members,

Just trying to play by the rules

Big Red

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Hi Big Red,

You are correct. Photos of escorts copied from their ads are perfectly acceptable for posting in the USASG Forum.

Thanks,

Jackson

Wallie
01-17-07, 01:29
First of all: Jackson, as always, thanks for the hard work you put in to keep the USASG online, and keeping it as such a useful source for the Monger. With the Moderating you have to do between this site, and the INTLSG, I don't know how you find time to Monger and live a life away from the site yourself.

OK, with that out of the way, I would like to see some of the old rules about photos posted on the Guide return. I realize that policing the Photos in the Guide would be yet another time-consuming thing you have to do, but I also think there are too many "junk" photos being posted. Here are a couple of examples:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=495733&postcount=122: IMHO, half of the photos in this post are useful, half are not. The images of the Lady that are body shots, etc., are fine, but a couple of the shots are nothing but Porn, and are, again, IMHO, add virtually nothing of value to the post. As I remember, the posting of Porn was against the old Photo Posting Guidelines of the USASG.

Another example: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=489507&postcount=310: All the photos here are "action shots".

There are many Photos posted that are of this ilk, or which have only a Vagina shot, or Penetration. It seems to me that Photos which only show sex, and absolutely no facial (as in Face, not the Pearl Necklace type of facial) images, don't serve to help any Mongers make a connection with the Lady in question.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=493858&postcount=1507: This post, unlike the previous examples, perfectly does what having a photo gallery is intended to do, it shows us the Lady, her body, and her build, without resorting to "Action Shots", which as I remember the old rules, were against Forum Policies.

Also, there are many photos posted which have embedded text in them, such as this one: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=489052&postcount=1461. This is against current Forum Policy as well, and seems to happen fairly regularly with some members, including the one who posted this example, and Glenn61, who likes to "decorate" his photos with slogans, etc.

This post itself violates the Guide's TOS, as it contains instructions for an external link, passwords, and sign-in information, in addition to the useless first image: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=489043&postcount=377.

Using a previous example again: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=489507&postcount=310, I think this an good example of another thought I have. I believe that the ability to post 10 images attached to a Report could be a reason there is so many "useless" images posted. It seems to me that 4-5 attachments would be plenty for most Reports. This might cut down on a poster's desire to post everything they have, and instead, just post the best images of a Lady.

I know there are no easy solutions to these problems, as I'm sure Moderating the Guides takes enough of your time, but perhaps a system-wide message reminding Members of the Photo Guidelines, would be helpful, especially if repeated Violations carried some sort of Penalty. Perhaps a 30 day ban on a user's ability to post images, or a temporary lowering of Membership Status would help.

{Fellow Mongers: this is not meant as an insult or indictment of any individual member(s). These are just things that I think could make the Guide more useful. Please, do not be offended if I used one of your Posts as an example. I just linked to some of the ones that really stuck out during a quick perusal of the Photo Gallery.}

Just some thoughts. If you find them useful, great, if I'm crazy, that's fine too.

All the best, and, again, thanks.

Wallie

NeverTell
09-30-08, 17:39
I am going to be a complete hypocrite here and do exactly what my post is complaining about - complain about post that complain about the content of other posts.

Maybe we need another thread to discuss the proper posting technique and what amount of information is acceptable. Until then we should use the existing "Rules" as our guide which clearly state:

"No Personal Contact Information: Please do not post any personal email address, telephone numbers or street addresses in the Forum. Please use the Forum's Private Messaging system to exchange this information."

http://usasexguide.info/forum/announcement-forumrules.php

It could be argued that posting the name of the AMP is akin to giving the address since the address can be easily found once the name is given. (I am guilty of providing establishment names). However, I don't think that giving a provider's fake name (you know they are giving fake names just like you do) can be linked back to them. They could all be sharing the same name - who knows? Same girl probably has 3 or 4 names they go by.

So, until another thread is started for this topic we should reserve this space for AMP reports.

(P.S. I would feel a bit guilty about this post but I just posted this months experience yesterday).

I once visited an AMP provider,
I was so proud of my performance inside her,
I blabbed so much detail,
Cops put her in jail,
Next time I'll be much brighter.

Ok, we need a new thread for poems now.

Admin
09-30-08, 17:47
It could be argued that posting the name of the AMP is akin to giving the address since the address can be easily found once the name is given. (I am guilty of providing establishment names). However, I don't think that giving a provider's fake name (you know they are giving fake names just like you do) can be linked back to them. They could all be sharing the same name - who knows? Same girl probably has 3 or 4 names they go by.Greetings Everyone,

First, an AMP is a business, and thus it IS NOT a "personal address", and thus it IS NOT covered under the prohibition against the posting of Personal Contact Information.

Second, a provider's first name, fake or otherwise, IS NOT specificly identifying to the point that it would be considered "Personal Contact Information", and thus it IS NOT covered under the prohibition against the posting of Personal Contact Information.

Thanks,

Jackson

LapDogg
10-04-08, 23:48
I once visited an AMP provider,
I was so proud of my performance inside her,
I blabbed so much detail,
Cops put her in jail,
Next time I'll be much brighter.

Ok, we need a new thread for poems now.

Actually what you posted was a limerick, it is a very specific 5-line poem that is often humorous. I think opening the forum to all poems would encourage actual literary ventures, not so much appreciated here.

LOL

Skatar018
09-29-10, 01:48
First I would like to say thanks to Jackson for all his hard work & due diligence in maintaining this site.

With that said I am having a hard time understanding why we only have X amount of time to edit, change, add to, or delete a post. (I think it’s 24 hrs)

If I am the originator of the post I don’t see why I cannot edit, change, delete, or add to the post at any point in time until the post is archived.

Perhaps I am missing something & just don’t’ know how nor can I find how to change the post once the X time line has elapsed.

I think this would help eliminate emails to Jackson requesting changes made to posts.

I feel it would be an improvement to the site to be able to go in & change, edit, delete, the post without the necessity of contacting Jackson to do it.

I know I have sent several emails requesting a deletion on a post with no reply or response, and the post(s) are still there.

Emme Gee
01-27-11, 18:50
This might reveal me as a complete newbie but. Where are the forum rules found? I've clicking around but can't find any official rules just people making mention of things being against rules.

I might be missing something obvious but I'd rather ask than accidentally break rules.

NC Wanderer
01-28-11, 09:39
This might reveal me as a complete newbie but. Where are the forum rules found? I've clicking around but can't find any official rules just people making mention of things being against rules.

I might be missing something obvious but I'd rather ask than accidentally break rules. Click on the FAQ

Seva Lurker
01-28-11, 18:24
This might reveal me as a complete newbie but. Where are the forum rules found? I've clicking around but can't find any official rules just people making mention of things being against rules.

I might be missing something obvious but I'd rather ask than accidentally break rules. Goto the 'homepage' (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/index.php) link, look on the left side in the second frame, the second option.

Dwnunder1
05-04-11, 02:24
Ok, so its not a rule, but I don't get the retyping of our posts to enforce perfect grammer, paragraph seperation, proper use of punctuation etc. Which only makes our posts take forever to get posted. Seems like a lot of work for the guy correcting all these school papers. And why can't I put 3 periods at the end of a sentence if I want to? And use an exclamation point AND a question mark at the end of the same sentence to indicate a loud question! Nope, the exclamation mark got deleted. WHy cn't I tip lik a txtn teen-a-ger if I want 2?

Especially on about the most politically incorrect forum there is, come on.

Dwnunder1
06-01-11, 02:30
Ok, so where do I comment if I want an actual response. Hello, is this thing on?

Mundane
08-27-11, 22:52
This will probably get removed, but as much I enjoy and appreciate this site, I believe the rule of not naming names when it comes to robberies and arrests is incredibly stupid. This is a REVIEW site. Meaning we can say that her pussy stinks and her ass is fat and she has a bad attitude, but we can't say that she engages in robberies? This makes absolutely no sense to me. Personally, I'd rather meet a nasty smelling, flat chested, flabby ass gal who laughs at the size of my dick than have a gal or her pimp pull a gun on me and take my money!

This whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing doesn't work on site like this. We need to know what's going on. If it turns out ot be bad info, the truth will come out.

Shyknox
08-30-11, 09:06
This will probably get removed, but as much I enjoy and appreciate this site, I believe the rule of not naming names when it comes to robberies and arrests is incredibly stupid. This is a REVIEW site. Meaning we can say that her pussy stinks and her ass is fat and she has a bad attitude, but we can't say that she engages in robberies? This makes absolutely no sense to me. Personally, I'd rather meet a nasty smelling, flat chested, flabby ass gal who laughs at the size of my dick than have a gal or her pimp pull a gun on me and take my money!

This whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing doesn't work on site like this. We need to know what's going on. If it turns out ot be bad info, the truth will come out.I with you 100% Mundane! I am, as the handle suggests, a rather shy individual, with a lot to lose if I were to get busted at my hobby. Since it is just a hobby and not my life, I keep the two completely separate. One of the ways that I best manage to do this is to live by the adage "better safe than sorry". So what if I have to miss out on more dreams than I would like, all it would take is that one wrong decision to bring it all crashing down. Boards like this are one of the places I go to help keep me safe, and help me to insulate my personal and professional life from my hobby. I would rather have the information, particularly from a senior member, than to have it removed or edited to "protect the innocent" when it's my ass on the line.

Stay safe,

Shy

Member #4178
08-30-11, 11:51
This will probably get removed, but as much I enjoy and appreciate this site, I believe the rule of not naming names when it comes to robberies and arrests is incredibly stupid. This is a REVIEW site. Meaning we can say that her pussy stinks and her ass is fat and she has a bad attitude, but we can't say that she engages in robberies? This makes absolutely no sense to me. Personally, I'd rather meet a nasty smelling, flat chested, flabby ass gal who laughs at the size of my dick than have a gal or her pimp pull a gun on me and take my money!

This whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing doesn't work on site like this. We need to know what's going on. If it turns out ot be bad info, the truth will come out.
I with you 100% Mundane! I am, as the handle suggests, a rather shy individual, with a lot to lose if I were to get busted at my hobby. Since it is just a hobby and not my life, I keep the two completely separate. One of the ways that I best manage to do this is to live by the adage "better safe than sorry". So what if I have to miss out on more dreams than I would like, all it would take is that one wrong decision to bring it all crashing down. Boards like this are one of the places I go to help keep me safe, and help me to insulate my personal and professional life from my hobby. I would rather have the information, particularly from a senior member, than to have it removed or edited to "protect the innocent" when it's my ass on the line.

Stay safe,

ShyWell. You guys know how I feel about this, having already been chastised and threatened with expulsion for doing just what you're discussing. But we don't run the board, so until the powers that be change the rules, we are (unfortunately) put in the position of having to abide by them, no matter how stupid we think those rules are!

Sexhoundtn2
08-30-11, 12:35
This will probably get removed, but as much I enjoy and appreciate this site, I believe the rule of not naming names when it comes to robberies and arrests is incredibly stupid. This is a REVIEW site. Meaning we can say that her pussy stinks and her ass is fat and she has a bad attitude, but we can't say that she engages in robberies? This makes absolutely no sense to me. Personally, I'd rather meet a nasty smelling, flat chested, flabby ass gal who laughs at the size of my dick than have a gal or her pimp pull a gun on me and take my money!

This whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing doesn't work on site like this. We need to know what's going on. If it turns out ot be bad info, the truth will come out.I TOTALLY agree with Mundane, Pup and the others responding. If we can't post the providers name and / or info why the hell is the "ripoff" thread even on the board. I thought the purpose of this entire forum was to protect us, the consumer (as well as providers) from harm. So instead we protect the "guilty"? WTF? Once again, just MHO.

Tampa Monger
10-11-11, 15:52
I was recently served with an infraction because I "bragged about unsafe sex," although it was sex with my girlfriend (at the time). If I'd talked about "unsafe sex" with my wife — I don't have one, but just as an example —*would that have been "bragging about unsafe sex"? Ridiculous. I think I can Be accused of being off-topic, though, since this is a site about pros, not wives and girlfriends.

This site used to have a non-judgmental policy about unsafe sex practices. I'm baffled as to why it's been changed. This site is about meeting women for sex. What *kind* of sex two consenting adults choose to have is their business. If a site member chooses to post that he had unsafe sex with a provider, what's the big deal? That's extremely useful intel, both for those who might want to partake and those who might want to avoid such a provider.

I've generally agreed with Jackson's policies in the past, but not this time. (There was one other exception, too, but that was a long time ago.) I think it's a real shame. The bottom line, though, is that this is Jackson's site. The utility of this site to me is pretty enormous, so as much as I despise this rule change, I can't imagine I'll do anything about it. I have the money and expertise to start a competing site if I wanted to, but I lack the time and motivation, so I guess I'll just have to deal.

But at least I can register my strong protest here.

===================================================

Hi Tampa Monger,

Posting Safe Sex Complaints

Per the Forum's Posting Guidelines, Safe Sex Complaints may only be posted in the following Safe Sex Complaints threads:

International Sex Guide Forum (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1084)

USA Sex Guide Forum (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=5710)

Members may also use the Forum's PM system to voice their Safe Sex Complaints towards individual Forum Members.

Here's the full text of the reasoning behind this policy:


Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the Safe Sex Thread (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1084). Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment. However...

Forum Members may not repeatedly post or otherwise taunt other Members regarding their refusal to follow safe sex procedures. Specifically, references to having sex without a condom may be made only by incidental reference and shall not be the focus of any report. Such "safe sex taunting" reports will be deleted without comment.

If you want to criticize another member for not following what you consider to be safe sex practices, then send him a PM.

It does no good to criticize members for not following what other members may consider to be safe sex practices for the following reasons:

1. It's a disincentive for members to contribute.
2. It never serves to change any one's behavior.
3. It almost always leads to arguments.
4. It provides a "cover" for Serial Antagonists to provoke other members.

To address the usual arguments:

1. If a guy wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's his risk and his business.

2. If a girl wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's her risk and her business.

3. If YOU want to protect yourself from either or both of the aforementioned parties, then YOU should use a condom for sex all the time and thus YOU will be protected from the allegedly unsafe sex practices of the other parties.Thanks,

Jackson

Oscard
11-21-11, 19:28
First off, thank you Jackson for the time you put into this site I for one appreciate it.

But I'd like to know your feelings concerning Licensed Massage therapists who also do this community a service and the public posting of information on them, let alone a thread dedicated to that info.

I for one love a LMT who provides this service but I would never do a public report for the world to see. Now BP girls who advertise as escorts or body rubs are different, but to go to a LMT and get a HE then post about it invites trouble and not just from LEO it also brings in the Health Dept and possibly a state or city's licensing dept (or whoever monitors LMTs) then to make it easier by providing a dedicated thread. It's one thing to have to have someone to dig through a BP thread, but to have one almost semi-dedicated? Someone could just show up one day and go back through the thread and have himself (or herself) a field day!

I implore you to perhaps consider a new rule about posting info about people who have much more to lose then just a few days in jail.

Thanks!

Oscard

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Hi Oscard,

Outside the obvious limitations on posting real names, private street addresses, etc., I do not delete information merely because it's accurate or because someone is concerned about protecting his favorite provider/venue.

Therefore, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from discouraging other members from posting information that is in fact within the Forum's Posting Guidelines.

Thanks,

Jackson

Jack0505
05-25-12, 22:20
Why are posts delayed for moderator approval?

[blue]=================================================

Hi Jack0505,

I appreciate your position.

First, please recognize the the purpose of monitoring reports it not to aggravate you but to keep the forum free of SPAM. It is specifically because I put in the work to monitor posts that The Forum is relatively SPAM free. I don't like all the work, but I know from experience that there's no other option.

Second, if I lowered the Senior Member requirements to 6 months OR 25 reports, I would have spammers specifically posting 25 posts within a few days to get the senior member status, and then start spamming the forum. That's what did happen ALL THE TIME a couple of years ago when I once had the either/or criteria.

Third, the USASG Forum is a compendium of travel reports, not a chat room. I care about the reports, not the chit-chat. Therefor, I don't think it's really that big of a deal if, for example, a travel report to Chicago is visible at 6pm or not until a few hours later?

Fourth, I moderate and approve all new reports at least twice per day, and sometimes several times a day. The average delay is less than 6 hours. I know because I watch the statistics every day. The only time the delay is more than 12 hours is on those few days when I have some issue that prevents me from getting to a computer, such as a day when I may be flying between continents. Even then, I usually find an internet cafe at the airports so I can approve the pending reports before I get on my flight and again when I land.

Personally, I think you should be commending me for doing such a great job of managing the forum instead of telling me that I don't do it fast enough.

Thanks,

Jackson[/quote]

JAXnewbie
06-14-12, 21:35
I'm referring to a post I made here, http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?7357-Backpage-Advertiser-Reviews

Now the question I have this is my 2nd "infraction", so am I run the risk of losing my access / account here?

My first infraction I don't even remember, I was asking a question to a moderator in the open about a technical issue, I've been posting on various bulletin boards since I got my first computer in 1998. I've asked questions to mods in forums countless times. The only "reprimand" I've ever received was a no answer, but here I get an "infraction". Fine. Would be nice while you're writing me an infraction maybe show me the proper avenues to go by. It's a rather large bulletin board. Kinda frustrating to be honest to search through, and frankly 15 years posting on various bulletin boards I've yet till now be reprimanded for asking a question to an anonymous moderator.

And now I get one for "discussing racial issues", again fine, but fact is my response was a response to another post, nothing remotely offensive whatsoever, go ahead and pull it out and read for yourself if it's possible. I don't want to say what I do for a living but I educate people. That other post which I responded to was like mine. Discussing racial issues, and it's still up! In fact, his closing remark was about "being proud of your race", and how exactly is that in any way reflective of the purpose of this bulletin board? They didn't get an infraction, nor was it deleted! I'm not trying to be an immature cry baby but I mean WTF? I don't think they meant anything by it, nor did I in my response. I happen to be a member of the group the poster was commenting on, but it seems crystal clear obvious somebody's picking sides here.

I just want to make sure that next time I say anything innocuous that there's not another rule I might be violating and I get another infraction that gets me thrown out of here.

I got no problem with your rules but this infraction be. S. Being leveled out for simple reasons of unfamiliarity, I can understand posts attacking other posters, or blatant racism, drug usage, condoning illegal behavior, personal information, etc, but I mean this is ridiculous.

Member #3973
06-26-12, 21:52
The one hour edit limit. If even that long. On posts is a too short. It used to be about a day. Way too often posts.

Have misleading or inaccurate information. After a few PMs, the poster would like to edit or update the post but cannot.

Perhaps this should have been under suggested improvements, but I did not see a reason to start a whole new thread.

Thanks for your attention.

Golfcart
06-27-12, 00:35
The one hour edit limit. If even that long. On posts is a too short. It used to be about a day. Way too often posts.

Have misleading or inaccurate information. After a few PMs, the poster would like to edit or update the post but cannot.

Perhaps this should have been under suggested improvements, but I did not see a reason to start a whole new thread.

Thanks for your attention.Replies to posts became problematic when the poster edited the original post after it had been replied to. Jackson cut the edit time down to one hour to address this.

You can still say what you want to say differently by replying to your own post after the edit time.

Member #4524
02-15-13, 22:43
[Forum Complaint deleted by Admin]

EDITOR'S NOTE: The general posting sections of the Forum are not the place to voice your personal complaints about the Forum's rules or operating procedures. In the future, please send any complaints about the Forum to me personally by email or PM, or post them in the Comment on Forum Rules section. Thanks!

Skatar018
02-16-13, 20:24
[Forum Complaint deleted by Admin]

EDITOR'S NOTE: The general posting sections of the Forum are not the place to voice your personal complaints about the Forum's rules or operating procedures. In the future, please send any complaints about the Forum to me personally by email or PM, or post them in the Comment on Forum Rules section. Thanks! K let me get this straight.

The admin deleted a complaint post in the Comment on Forum Rules Here forum, cause it was posted where it was suppose to be posted in the Comment on Forum Rules Here forum? But said it was posted in the The general posting sections of the Forum?

Did the post get moved to here? Or am I losing my mind!

Must have been one hellva complaint!

ILoveThatPoo
02-27-13, 19:42
I myself have been issued several infractions because I did not understand the new rules. IE about jail and arrest.

It like anything revolves around communication. Just because someone thinks they know what you mean is not necessarily the case. I was cited for saying the same thing in a different way thinking it would be ok. It was not. After a few PM's with the administrator it was spelled out.

Don't take infractions personally. It is a way to process, sort and controll the huge volume of posts on this board. Keep in mind it's free and we " Mongers" don't make the rules.

I personally think this forum is a great way to express yourself and impress others without the societal reprocusions. Not to mention help get your friends laid.

Poo

Fluffhead1977
01-09-16, 16:09
Are we not supposed to show the whole phone number when posting about an escort? I've noticed that a phone number I write in a post gets changed so that the middle 3 numbers are xxx. I thought I was putting that in for a courtesy, so that people can easily contact the escort, to differentiate between girls with the same name, and to make it easier to search for a girl to see if she's been reviewed yet. What good is only showing the partial number?

Zsasz1
07-15-16, 04:12
Where I agree that we should not help police embarrass people who have been arrested trying to provide or be with a provider at the same time I think that deleting arrest reports causes a much bigger problem. By knowing a provider has been arrested we as monger are now informed that police are looking in that area and we should exercise caution in finding a provider there. Also we know that if a girl was arrested on Monday and is taking calls the same day she may be working with the police to set up stings. By deleting these posts we are effectively left clueless to what we may be asking in to. Just my opinion and I certainly would keep longer pictures out if arrested but maybe it's time to change the rules and allow us to see what providers have been hit. Thanks.

FatSo543
08-24-16, 18:34
I couldn't have said it better myself. This site is a treasure trove of useful information, and Jackson has done a good job keeping it relatively spam free, which aint easy. It is one place where we can go and be confident that the information that we are getting is legit, rather than out to scam us, and given how many scams are out there, USSG is a safe place for US.

That said, I'm fully in support of naming names when it is in the interest of members safety.

Just my opinion.


I with you 100% Mundane! I am, as the handle suggests, a rather shy individual, with a lot to lose if I were to get busted at my hobby. Since it is just a hobby and not my life, I keep the two completely separate. One of the ways that I best manage to do this is to live by the adage "better safe than sorry". So what if I have to miss out on more dreams than I would like, all it would take is that one wrong decision to bring it all crashing down. Boards like this are one of the places I go to help keep me safe, and help me to insulate my personal and professional life from my hobby. I would rather have the information, particularly from a senior member, than to have it removed or edited to "protect the innocent" when it's my ass on the line.

Stay safe,

Shy

LuxuryEbony
11-21-16, 18:36
I have a question about posting a comment on another provider who isn't apart of our family here. She has moved but is looking for new friends and wanted to know if I could post about here in a forum. I don't want to get flagged so I'm asking if it's ok? I have posted for her on my own ad in the past when we were working together.

Tell her to register at the new site (USA Adult Classifieds) and she's welcomed.

A2

Hargow20
04-29-17, 00:23
This one SW contacted me to give me some info about this one area. Now I know providers are prohibited from advertising. But given how slow the SW has become in socal I don't see why they are not allowed to give info where we can find them or discreet contact info. ? If not they should be at least allowed to post info or advice about different areas etc..

Param Ahmad
05-12-17, 01:59
I just noticed this web site's automatic editing software deleted the street or house numbers from my report yesterday listing massage parlors in Century Center (in Honolulu, Hawaii) and nearby.(Deleted by Admin)


So you thought you would post it again? If you READ the forum guidelines you would SEE that posting specific addresses is against the rules.

A2.After looking it seemed like 10 or 15 minutes I did find a link to the posting rules and found this:


USASexGuide Rules.

Please read and understand the following before registering:

Registration to this forum is free! We do insist that you abide by the rules and policies of this website. If you agree to the terms, please check the 'I agree' checkbox and press the 'Complete Registration' button below. If you would like to cancel the registration, click here to return to the forums index.

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By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

By agreeing to these rules and by completing this registration process, and by voluntarily uploading text and images to this website, you hereby grant the publishers of USASexGuide a fully paid up, non-exclusive, non-revokable, royalty-free license to publish said text and images in this or any other venue.

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In addition, ALL images, text, and graphics are COPYRIGHTED material! Please keep this site fun for us and all of those who choose to view my material. We are open minded persons and will be willing to discuss arrangements about reposting our material; However, you MUST have our express written consent before proceeding. So, please don't copy, steal or alter any images or graphics from this web site.

Thanks!I see nothing in the above quoted rules informing users "posting specific addresses is against the rules. " Furthermore, how can this web site be useful to readers without the addresses of the businesses or "providers" being discussed?

It's hidden, it's hidden under the link called Policies and Guidelines on the FRONT FUCKING PAGE

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=ForumRules

Where it says at no less than 4 separate places not to post addresses and phone numbers.

More, when I tell you not to do something, I don't give two fucks what the rules actually say, if I tell you not to do something don't fucking do it. We have this rule because too often guys post addresses and phone numbers of their ex girlfriends to fuck with them and I don't have the time to chase them all down to determine what is legitimate or not.

A2

Param Ahmad
05-14-17, 02:07
My report a day or so ago seems to have gotten lost, so I've revised and expanded it:

[Deleted by Admin]

No it wasn't, I deleted it. You broke a rule of the site, you caught a flag, it wasn't personal, enforcing those rules is what I get paid to do. The rule you're saying is new has been there for about 13 years.

Time to move on

A2

Param Ahmad
01-10-18, 13:29
Under "General Rules" there is this: "No Personal Contact Information: Please do not post any personal email address, personal telephone numbers or private street addresses in the Forum. " It says "PRIVATE street address". A massage parlor's publicly advertised address is not a "private" street address.

Under "Posting Guidelines" there is this: "Please do not post any member's Personally Identifying Information, as follows: The following items constitute Personally Identifying Information and will be deleted. . . . . Street Address. . . . " Massage parlors are not "members".

Also under "Posting Guidelines" there is this: " Please REDACT names and address numbers from posted copies of media reports. (Please use "XXXXXXXXXX" to blank out names and address numbers)". An address where I've been or that I've seen in an advertisement is not a "media report".

Maybe from that third rule I should have inferred including street addresses isn't allowed, even of a publicly advertised business, but if anybody looks at my past reports they will see I have included massage parlor's publicly advertised addresses for many years without comment by Jackson when he was site administrator.

Fortunately, the current site administrator, A2, has been allowing me to include links to rubmaps.com where the street addresses are published.

I'm not sure what has your panties in a wad but you can PM me at Admin2

A2

PS, sometimes the rules are what I say they are.

Harry Plopper
06-10-18, 06:56
A2,

After the whole debacle with the new law and the "white knights" trolling the site, have you considered making this site only available to registered members since they are the only ones that can contribute anyway? Also, are you considering charging for access for admin costs? Where can I donate?

Harry P.

Kevrob911
08-15-18, 13:16
Hey Admin,

Let me begin by saying: "This is your site and you can set the rules to whatever you want. " In general, I agree completely with that. Others that disagree can go start their own sites, and good luck with that.

However, you have a policy under.

Forum Rules & Posting Guidelines General Rules "No Discussion about Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals. ".

Which says: "No Discussion about Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that refers to Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males. This website is about sex between men who were always men and women who were always women. Any person violating this policy will banned immediately. ".

However, in the Indianapolis section of USAAdultClassifieds, we have a regular poster named Caterina.

The most recent link is this one http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=58127&cityid=147.

This advertiser openly claims to be a "M to F transgender girl".

According to your rules, any discussion of this person would be "banned immediately".

Do you not allow the discussion of advertisers on your site (s)? What if they are TS / TV or whatever?

Secondly, in a recent Indianapolis discussion, Lingus41 commented on a Full Post Op TV and you threatened to ban him the next time.

Personally, I appreciated Lingus41's warning (that's what I would call it) that this was indeed a M to F that has gone the full distance, and in fact, he provided video evidence of the 'pre-chop-a-dick-off-of-me' provider.

I do not understand this dichotomy and would appreciate further refinement of your site rules. I do not wish to run afoul of your rules, and as I began its YOUR site and you can set them to whatever you wish.

Respectfully,

KevRob.

I checked, there is no Caterina nor ads by anybody of that name.

Next time you might want to start with a PM just write me at Admin2

A2

KpQueen
10-24-18, 14:06
Where is there a rule against a provider responding to a bad report about her interaction. I Read all the rules and it does not indicate That isn't allowed. It seems why'all allow one sided accounts of the interaction which may or may not bee accurate.

From the creators desk:


Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

Notice it very clearly says "Men." We know there's always a couple guys who miss their old ladies busting their balls who write, "hey, maybe we should" but we don't. We don't because he said/she said drives people away.

We also don't because on site where providers can black list guys not only can guys not respond they don't even get to read it. I've noticed that there are never any providers complaining about the unfairness of those sites.

Lastly because it's just going to start fights and give no real info. Crowdsourcing takes care of it. If you're any good at what you do the totality of your reviews will reflect that. If you aren't then they wont.

A2

Restraint
12-02-18, 17:01
Gentlemen, I asked two basic, curious, and non-trolling comments in another city I planned on going to and I immediately got two infractions. I wouldn't care usually but now I have to get my posts approved in my hometown thread which is ridiculous because I am very active in the community there. Can I get these get removed so I can go on about my usual day?

You decided to do this in public instead of asking me in a PM so public it is.

Your two posts were not "non-trolling" they were absolutely finger wagging because guys were mongering how you think they should. When you fuck up and get put on moderation you get put on moderation everywhere.

You have been a member for 36 months and have made 66 posts which is one post every two weeks and that's not "very active" so not only are you misrepresenting what you did to get put on moderation, you're way over stating your involvement in the forum.

A2

James F
01-14-19, 20:03
[Deleted by Admin]

I get it, this post was an attempt to get me engaged so that you could explain why what you did was a great idea and all you were trying to do was help protect people from a non existent threat.

We are not going to do that in public.

If you want to have that discussion PM me.

Admin2

Naomi Ananya 2
03-04-19, 22:54
I want someone to post my photos in the escort photos section. Not sure how it works because there is no "Post" button in the escort photos folder.

Smdiw81
11-30-19, 11:24
Can we reduce the minimum length of text to search?. I believe text string has to be 4 characters long. Can we reduce this to 2 or 3? I use the search to find reviews of girls by name. However, there are lots of girls that use names with only 3 characters.

SmartPath
12-11-19, 00:18
[Message to Admin deleted]

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TSmithers24
02-08-20, 23:28
Sorry to post this here but I'm not sure what else to do. I've gone through the Contact Us page twice asking to change my username and it says I will receive an email with instructions on how to do it and I have not received an email. I really need to change my username. Thanks!

Trippitt
04-05-20, 12:02
Been trying to delete a post I made about a provider and the great service she gave me. She saw my review and asked me to delete it. I have tried several times but to no avail.

WaleedHayss
07-21-20, 04:28
I want someone to post my photos in the escort photos section. Not sure how it works because there is no "Post" button in the escort photos folder.I also wanted to know this because I wanted to share my personal experience with an escort girl (allure-escort.com/asna/). Hahaha I don't know how.

OcStyle
09-17-20, 00:51
[Message to Admin deleted]

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BadAssSilky
09-17-20, 00:53
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BadAssSilky
09-19-20, 01:01
I wanted to take a moment and that you guys for the great work you do. Your the best.

Thanks, but you're is correct.

A2

SteadyOn
09-21-20, 15:04
[Message to Admin deleted]

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BorisBadenov77
03-16-21, 14:03
Just a comment on forum rules.

It appears that following us the process in the FAQ by using the "contact us" form doesn't result in responses. Maybe it would be a worthwhile addition to ask for donations for "expedited responses?" I know I would be willing to donate to get my messages returned.

Thanks.

IceCreamLoad
09-01-21, 16:57
Not sure if this is the appropriate section, I really like this forum but are we ever going to be able to post without the manual approval?

Part of what keeps me from being active on the site is the manual posting, I understand maybe its done to prevent spam but perhaps making a paid sub or something?

LiquidCoil
02-03-22, 11:36
While they may seem obvious to an experienced user, much an less admin or moderator, it is difficult for new users like me to understand where the line is on this forum for posts that break somewhat subjective rules like "argumentative" when the content of other users' past comments that did cross the line are deleted.

Obviously content that posts personal information or spam must be deleted, and perhaps those that go way over the line, but when the current rules (if I understand them correctly) expect 50 flawless first posts, including following rules like "argumentative" that are not even mentioned in the "Posting Guidelines" warning at the top, without room for any correction or feedback, while not having guidelines at least in the form of other users' past comments that crossed the line, it makes it rather difficult for us new users to understand.

Jwa340
02-21-22, 13:43
I'm hoping to get the Admin's attention on this post. I'd really like to have this account deleted ASAP, and I'm worried the contact form is moving slowly. Last time I tried, I got no response.

DaveCoffee2018
07-29-22, 17:40
If you going to delete a post.

Then give someone the (largely argumentative) reply. Wouldn't it be easier for the user to learn what they did wrong if they could see the post in question. This would be a great way to learn from you're mistake.

And what does the dates mean? Does this mean you can't post until that date is reached. I'll go and read the rules and faq page maybe I'll learn more there.

LaxMan11
01-04-23, 19:28
Where are the forum posting rules located?

IceCreamLoad
01-15-23, 22:16
[Forum Complaint deleted by Admin]

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RufusFirefly
07-03-23, 08:28
I have searched this site many times and have not determined how Moderators and Admin are assigned. Actually I have found little on the workings of this site. Does anyone know how many people are used as Mods and Admin? What is the difference? And how are they assigned?

BBShaq
07-15-23, 22:27
Why can't we talk about trans here?

DirtyFuk
10-06-23, 15:27
Why can't we talk about trans here?With the changes in society, many pre op and post op trans women are very beautiful. I would hope the owner would consider allowing members to discuss them. Some pist op trans providers try to hide they are post op. Allowing discussion would inform those that are not interested in seeing a trans provider.

In the end, the owner gwts to do as they see fit. They have provided a great place for all of us to discuss the issues. We owe them our gratitude.

FredFred123
11-21-23, 12:28
First I want to apologize for a post I inadvertently made on the the Nevada. Las Vegas. Escort Reviews Thread. It was not my intention to post prohibited content, for which I received a citation. However, I do agree it needs to be considered for future posts and conversation. Just wanted to throw that out there. Thanks.

BoRegardHer
03-12-24, 08:47
I think this used to be 60 seconds between sending private messages. Now it seems it's 5 minutes (300 seconds). Was this intentional? When we can't post #'s and when we want to share a #, 5 minutes is going to make responding to requests take forever.