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MaximusKahn
04-12-23, 10:59
Can you share about the several girls that were good who got you to go back, and perhaps where this was?
You can leave out the name of the provider who gave you the bad experience.
Reward the good, but don't punish the bad.
You can PM if you want to keep it discrete.
Speaking of negotiating, I recently returned to an AMP where I had a fine time with several different girls. As a omen of things to come, I was left on the table for 15-20 minutes getting more pissed by the second. Finally an average girl comes in, dressed in a average dress. Preliminary massage is over with and she is offering BBBJ. I'm stuck at 1. 2 and she's looking fussy. I get up, give her the 1. 2 and off we go. She remains clothed but the service is ok with FIV thrown in. As soon as we're finished she jumps up and is screeching into her phone. I ask for a hot towel, she leaves, comes back and throws it in my lap. I just want out at this point, maybe I was too hard on the tip but she could have said no. All in all a disappointing experience, I won't name the spa since one bad apple isn't the whole barrel.
ArtVandalayy
04-15-23, 06:25
Speaking of negotiating, I recently returned to an AMP where I had a fine time with several different girls. As a omen of things to come, I was left on the table for 15-20 minutes getting more pissed by the second. Finally an average girl comes in, dressed in a average dress. Preliminary massage is over with and she is offering BBBJ. I'm stuck at 1. 2 and she's looking fussy. I get up, give her the 1. 2 and off we go. She remains clothed but the service is ok with FIV thrown in. As soon as we're finished she jumps up and is screeching into her phone. I ask for a hot towel, she leaves, comes back and throws it in my lap. I just want out at this point, maybe I was too hard on the tip but she could have said no. All in all a disappointing experience, I won't name the spa since one bad apple isn't the whole barrel.Yeah you played yourself. Should've started putting your clothes back on very slowly the second you started getting pissed and started the negotiation when she got back in the room. If she doesn't beg you stay then go to a different AMP.
MaximusKahn
04-16-23, 12:58
The summer travel months are coming quickly.
Two of my girls have told me about their vacation plans. And since they're going back to China, both are for long periods of time, so if you have a rotation or schedule, consider their plans into your own.
And it makes for great conversation topic, before they go and after.
Just by the ad I'm 90% it's a deposit scam or fishing bot. Hey I could be wrong but seems obvious to me.If the phone number has an OUT OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY AREA CODE-it is a SCAMMER! I have learned to not even waste my time with those numbers!
CunningLnguist
04-16-23, 23:22
If the phone number has an OUT OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY AREA CODE-it is a SCAMMER! I have learned to not even waste my time with those numbers!Lmao bro, you know how many touring WG's I've banged who visit SD and had non-SD area codes? Lots of them. Scammers come in many ways but this has never been a huge red flag for me.
If the phone number has an OUT OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY AREA CODE-it is a SCAMMER! I have learned to not even waste my time with those numbers!Like 15 of my 20 regulars all have non-San Diego area codes. Tf are you on about?
DoctorOlds
04-23-23, 09:32
Yeah you played yourself. Should've started putting your clothes back on very slowly the second you started getting pissed and started the negotiation when she got back in the room. If she doesn't beg you stay then go to a different AMP.Agreed. Similar happened to me in South Bay. I went to place on a specific day to see a specific provider. Called ahead to make sure she was there. Get there, infirm provider, pay HF, go into room, undress, get on table and wait. And wait. MMS comes in twice to tell me ". 5 more minutes. ". I eventually started getting dressed as MMS comes In again and tries offering me someone else. I went for a Latina and they offered an Asian. Got my HF back and walked out. Have not been back since.
Like 15 of my 20 regulars all have non-San Diego area codes. Tf are you on about?I. have not found a "provider" yet on any of the various "websites" that has a non-SD County area code in her contact number, that did not turn out to be a grifter / hustler ad!
If I ever do, I will be happy to post that the provider is for real.
NudeBeachPerv
04-23-23, 13:07
It seems summer has unofficially started. Blacks was packed yesterday. All I can say is wow!
RChangDatyKing
04-27-23, 18:30
Went for dinner at one of my favorite Asian restaurants, then to a non FS spot for an amazing massage, mutual fun and dessert.
Drove by Pure Platinum and saw that they are putting up a new sign, Candy Shop. Is it a new strip club? I guess my lifetime Pure Platinum membership card will just me for memories. LOL.
Looking forward to see what Candy Shop will be.
Went for dinner at one of my favorite Asian restaurants, then to a non FS spot for an amazing massage, mutual fun and dessert.
Drove by Pure Platinum and saw that they are putting up a new sign, Candy Shop. Is it a new strip club? I guess my lifetime Pure Platinum membership card will just me for memories. LOL.
Looking forward to see what Candy Shop will be.You can put it right up there with my Body Shop card.
RChangDatyKing
04-27-23, 20:13
You can put it right up there with my Body Shop card.LOL. Yes, I still have my laminated Body Shop lifetime card. The only one I can still use will be my Cheetah's card. LOL.
CunningLnguist
04-27-23, 20:26
I. have not found a "provider" yet on any of the various "websites" that has a non-SD County area code in her contact number, that did not turn out to be a grifter / hustler ad!
If I ever do, I will be happy to post that the provider is for real.Here's a few "providers" I've from the various "websites" that have non-SD County area codes and I can verify are real:
Zoe.
213 area code.
She is real. Hotel Cir S. Nice CBJ. Fat ass.
https://escortbabylon.net/info_stats/2137787192
Stef.
661 area code.
Met her in Hotel Cir S. Real. Kinda trash though.
https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/6619339292#.
Bambi.
971 area code. She's from Portland.
Fucked her by the airport. She had a killer ass but sadly was here for a short time. Hopefully she'll come back.
https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/9715010051
Lotto.
714 area code.
Comes down from LA / OC a lot. Good QV. Nice ass. Probably won't repeat but she's real.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/129881637
The infamous Sweetiee.
423 area code.
Always has a Tennessee area code. But many will confirm she is real and if you skipped her last year when she was cheap because of her area code then you missed out big time.
https://privatedelights.ch/profile/XxSweetieee
Anabel Winters.
954 area code.
One of my favorite porn stars and GFE providers. She visits SD often but I think is based out of the bay or the OC now. But still keeps her area code from Florida.
https://privatedelights.ch/profile/anabelwinterslove
Ashley.
323 area code.
LA area code. Lots of girls from LA come down to SD all the time. Saw this one a few months ago. Pricey but love that fat ass of hers.
https://privatedelights.ch/profile/ashleyyy
Ivy Lee.
323.
Another 323 LA area code. But this girl is here in SD almost all the time. Nice petite chocolate thing.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/146092558/3239723402
Nina.
480.
She come from out of state and is back in town currently. Last time she was here was a few months ago I believe. I haven't tried her yet. But I know a few here have already and recently.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/130076986
Erika.
949.
I haven't tried her yet but I know someone recently wrote a good report of her in the Bare section. But I know I've seen tons of girls from the 949 area code. One of my ATF's had a 949 but I think she retired last Oct.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/146104661/9494239050
Mika.
901 Tennessee area code.
Another bare queen mentioned many times on here. I tried her and personally was not a fan of her but she is real. I did enjoy face fucking her and cumming all over her tatted face.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/146076732/9014305093
Anyway that was fun but I'm sure you get the point. There are plenty of girls out there who visit San Diego frequently and keep non-SD area codes. You just have to do all the research and see if they hit any other major red flags. If they check all my boxes except the area code it's not going to stop me from visiting.
Here's a good one I'll try for you:
Jodeci.
https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/5594640311#.
She's got a 559 area code. Fresno I think. She has 2 reviews. Might be fake but comments also saying she's real and the comments aren't sucking her clit. One of them says she's real but all business. Something a real monger would say, not a provider or pimp. She posts all over Ontario, LA, OC, Bay Area so you know she travels and you know she's not police because why would SDPD be posting in different cities? She's been pretty active for almost a year and is posting on multiple sites as well. This checks enough boxes for me to at least text her and get some dialogue going. I wasn't going to see anybody today. I've literally tagged 4 girls in the last 3 days. But this girl's booty is looking fine and I'll TOFTT for research. I'll report back later and let you know if she's real or not.
Rey KittyHawk
04-29-23, 10:35
Texted one of my regulars for a visit and she didn't reply. So much for an afternoon delight with her, so went on to my second choice. Always good to have choices.
The next day she texts back all apologies telling me she is on vacation driving around Florida.
What can you say but, have a great vacation, tell me when you get back.
Aside from that, has anyone noticed a provider migration to Florida besides me? I've had two very enjoyable women I know move there.
I'm hoping my regular comes back and is not scouting out her next location in FL.
The summer travel months are coming quickly.
Two of my girls have told me about their vacation plans. And since they're going back to China, both are for long periods of time, so if you have a rotation or schedule, consider their plans into your own.
And it makes for great conversation topic, before they go and after.
I doubt I am the first to realize this: Providers are now appearing in "People You May Know" in your social media. This means they can probably see you.
I doubt I am the first to realize this: Providers are now appearing in "People You May Know" in your social media. This means they can probably see you.Your talking about Facebook? I have had a similar experience with instagram but I don't think they can see you if phone number they have is not correlated with your social media accounts. I hope I'm right.
Lascivious
05-04-23, 18:50
LOL. Yes, I still have my laminated Body Shop lifetime card. The only one I can still use will be my Cheetah's card. LOL.I've got both of those stashed away somewhere. How about a Tops and Tails lifetime membership card, which was what it was called before they renamed it Cheetah's?
Your talking about Facebook? I have had a similar experience with instagram but I don't think they can see you if phone number they have is not correlated with your social media accounts. I hope I'm right.Its your location. The app noticed you spending time in the same location together. Check your privacy settings.
RChangDatyKing
05-04-23, 21:22
Went for dinner at one of my favorite Asian restaurants, then to a non FS spot for an amazing massage, mutual fun and dessert.
Drove by Pure Platinum and saw that they are putting up a new sign, Candy Shop. Is it a new strip club? I guess my lifetime Pure Platinum membership card will just me for memories. LOL.
Looking forward to see what Candy Shop will be.Looks like Candy Shop is opened for business. Cheesy looking carpet but some of the girls in their ad / website don't look too bad. I might have to check this place out.
https://candyshopsd.com/about/
RChangDatyKing
05-04-23, 21:28
I've got both of those stashed away somewhere. How about a Tops and Tails lifetime membership card, which was what it was called before they renamed it Cheetah's?What's up, brother! Tops and Tails sounds familiar. Unfortunately, I don't have a membership card for them. LOL.
Man I missed those days going to strip clubs, especially the Body Shop. Got some great BJ's during those private room dances. Also $5/$10 table dances at some of the strip clubs.
Cobra Comander
05-05-23, 12:48
Looks like Candy Shop is opened for business. Cheesy looking carpet but some of the girls in their ad / website don't look too bad. I might have to check this place out.
https://candyshopsd.com/about/It appears to be a nightclub, not a strip club.
CC.
It appears to be a nightclub, not a strip club.
CC.It appears to be a little bit of both. A video on their social media shows entertainers pole dancing and twerking in thongs. My guess is that they don't take anything off though.
Sir Bishop
05-06-23, 01:14
You can put it right up there with my Body Shop card.
LOL. Yes, I still have my laminated Body Shop lifetime card. The only one I can still use will be my Cheetah's card. LOL.Right there with both of you guys. I've got the red laminated Body Shop lifetime card. My days go all the way back to when Swede was primo! Oh yea, met several ladies in the back and later when they popped up on BP and other sites. Kinda funny how the Body Shop became the "go to" place for everyone to get their start in the hobby.
Do you guys use preferred411 is it worth it?
What's up, brother! Tops and Tails sounds familiar. Unfortunately, I don't have a membership card for them. LOL.
Man I missed those days going to strip clubs, especially the Body Shop. Got some great BJ's during those private room dances. Also $5/$10 table dances at some of the strip clubs.Sadly, I somehow missed the private room dances at the BS. I was going there before that, and then switched to Cheetahs.
Went for dinner at one of my favorite Asian restaurants, then to a non FS spot for an amazing massage, mutual fun and dessert.
Drove by Pure Platinum and saw that they are putting up a new sign, Candy Shop. Is it a new strip club? I guess my lifetime Pure Platinum membership card will just me for memories. LOL.
Looking forward to see what Candy Shop will be.The real question is though. Which Asian restaurant?
Lascivious
05-07-23, 03:14
What's up, brother! Tops and Tails sounds familiar. Unfortunately, I don't have a membership card for them. LOL.
Man I missed those days going to strip clubs, especially the Body Shop. Got some great BJ's during those private room dances. Also $5/$10 table dances at some of the strip clubs.What up RChang? Taking a walk down mammary lane.
I miss my strip club days too. Like Hunter, I moved on to Cheetahs. I did get to see Eva from SDASP at the Shop though. She was sexy.
Even Cheetahs day crew was great. Even in LA, Vegas and San Francisco I never saw another club with 15 or more day girls, a few being top notch. Relaxed vibe and $10 laps. Slap on a lubed up condom have a beautiful young thing grind you to completion for $10 per song. Not bad.
The SDASP happy hours next door at the Bullpen were fun. Their social's were fun too. I remember at one at the Abby, the super sexy little Gwen was giving lap dances. I did the lubed up condom thing with her. I told her that I had a hat on so she could go to town and I wouldn't make a mess on her.
She was wearing a little skirt grinding on me on right out in front of everyone. She asked if I wanted her to slid it inside her. Hell yeah. It was wild fucking her right out in the open with everyone around. She passed away soon after that. I really miss those SDASP days too.
What up RChang? Taking a walk down mammary lane.
I miss my strip club days too. Like Hunter, I moved on to Cheetahs. I did get to see Eva from SDASP at the Shop though. She was sexy.
Even Cheetahs day crew was great. Even in LA, Vegas and San Francisco I never saw another club with 15 or more day girls, a few being top notch. Relaxed vibe and $10 laps. Slap on a lubed up condom have a beautiful young thing grind you to completion for $10 per song. Not bad.
The SDASP happy hours next door at the Bullpen were fun. Their social's were fun too. I remember at one at the Abby, the super sexy little Gwen was giving lap dances. I did the lubed up condom thing with her. I told her that I had a hat on so she could go to town and I wouldn't make a mess on her.
She was wearing a little skirt grinding on me on right out in front of everyone. She asked if I wanted her to slid it inside her. Hell yeah. It was wild fucking her right out in the open with everyone around. She passed away soon after that. I really miss those SDASP days too.Yes I remember Gwen. If it is the same Gwen with tattoos that had a son. One of the best white girls I ever had. Serious head game. Down to earth and loved talking on the phone. I remember her telling me if I was her boyfriend she would do anything for me. The SDAG girls were just genuinely horny. I also really miss April / Deya. She would give me QQs and they would turn into one or two hours and call me out of the blue. She always knew what she wanted from me and let things happen. Miss having them come over. There was also one named Cherry in North Park and more I can't even think of. There was also a white one that was redhead spinner with really pink nipples. Can't remember her name anymore. It was not naughty Jess.
How about Apresvous agency that had white girls? Anyone remember that agency with an Asian named Jocelyn?
Lascivious
05-07-23, 16:13
Yes I remember Gwen. If it is the same Gwen with tattoos that had a son. One of the best white girls I ever had. Serious head game. Down to earth and loved talking on the phone. I remember her telling me if I was her boyfriend she would do anything for me. The SDAG girls were just genuinely horny. I also really miss April / Deya. She would give me QQs and they would turn into one or two hours and call me out of the blue. She always knew what she wanted from me and let things happen. Miss having them come over. There was also one named Cherry in North Park and more I can't even think of. There was also a white one that was redhead spinner with really pink nipples. Can't remember her name anymore. It was not naughty Jess.
How about Apresvous agency that had white girls? Anyone remember that agency with an Asian named Jocelyn?Yep. That's the one. Suicide girl type with pistols tattooed on her hips. Loved that girl. I forgot about Apresvous.
So many hot girls. Cherry was awesome. Felicia was my ATF. Beautiful face. Flawless body. Not an ounce of flab. I remember the day she offered me FS. So damn tight that we thought it wasn't going to work-but there was no way I wasn't going to get it into her. Sequentially, when I put it inside her, I was holding back from the get-go. Perfect round tight ass, flattest belly, super perky tots and a beaming smile. Sigh.
RolfTorren
05-07-23, 18:04
Hey Las.
Your post brought back some awesome memories. Felicia had one of the best natural bodies I've ever experienced. So freaking toned. And she was real generous with mutual touch. I never tried for FS, but she sure loved daty. I can't think of anyone close today.
Yep. That's the one. Suicide girl type with pistols tattooed on her hips. Loved that girl. I forgot about Apresvous.
So many hot girls. Cherry was awesome. Felicia was my ATF. Beautiful face. Flawless body. Not an ounce of flab. I remember the day she offered me FS. So damn tight that we thought it wasn't going to work-but there was no way I wasn't going to get it into her. Sequentially, when I put it inside her, I was holding back from the get-go. Perfect round tight ass, flattest belly, super perky tots and a beaming smile. Sigh.
Hey Las.
Your post brought back some awesome memories. Felicia had one of the best natural bodies I've ever experienced. So freaking toned. And she was real generous with mutual touch. I never tried for FS, but she sure loved daty. I can't think of anyone close today.Whatever happened to glodie knox?
RolfTorren
05-09-23, 18:04
Good question. Be became friends for a while. We'd have lunch and a couple of drinks but nothing more. Then she went radio silent for long periods and would then contact me out of the blue. I know she was facing some tough times. I got a text supposedly from her a few weeks ago. Then nothing. I'm wondering if her phone was hacked or something. She kind of represents the heyday of the local independent scene back a decade ago. I had some fun times with her. And she was the best kisser.
Whatever happened to glodie knox?
Whatever happened to glodie knox?I don't think I ever got to meet this Goldie Knox. But I think she was the one that was open minded about using female condoms if my memory isn't failing me.
DrPornDawger
05-14-23, 10:42
You guys might be in handsome level of 8's.
What's the cost and how do you say give me BJ to those strippers at the clubs.
Are the private rooms dances now astronomically inflated?
I'm back in town thinking I will fix up some company and knock a couple off my todo list. Sent out 7 texts asking for details, got just one reply that included rates and menu, and one reply that just asked what time, no info at all. None of the 7 have rates in their ads so it seems like a fair question.
And then I see that one of my top picks is posting in Carlsbad and Vacaville at the same time smh.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/6197072649/1
I understand the need for discretion, especially with talking about menus, but it never used to be this hard.
You guys might be in handsome level of 8's.
What's the cost and how do you say give me BJ to those strippers at the clubs.
Are the private rooms dances now astronomically inflated?Difficult to almost impossible in san diego strip clubs these days. I find it hardly worth my money to go for private dances on this side of the border.
I usually get a BBBJ in the lapdance rooms in Hong Kong. After paying for 20 min of songs (around 30 USD) I'll just be up front. Blow job right now for 100 dollars? And not everyone will say yes but I've had a lot of girls say yes. Cleanup can be a bit awkward afterwards since they don't want to get caught.
Don't be shy about just asking, worst they say is no and you just move onto the next girl.
MaximusKahn
05-25-23, 09:18
Nobody likes their action interrupted but it does happen.
There were good tips shared in the Massage thread to avoid foot traffic interruptions, and I thought of some other considerations to that point.
Go when they open for the day, early doesn't seem that busy in most places I go. Don't go at lunch time, and don't go right at the end of the work day. I don't go late in the day very often, but I'm sure after 8 pm not many soccer moms's are looking for a massage.
Call ahead and make an appointment. Especially if you have a special girl you want to enjoy. Give them enough time to have enough staff available. Even if you are planning to go right now, call and ask if they have a girl available in about 5 minutes? If they say yes, then go, sometimes they say a time or say in a half hour? Then you can decide if that adjustment works for you, or you can try another place. If you call and say you are will be there in 5 minutes, the'll ask when you walk in if you called. This will give you special treatment to have a girl waiting. I've even called from the parking lot outside, saying I'll be there in 5 minutes, then walk in.
Stick to HE, and FS places. Those that try to be, or look legit will get more walk ins of all kinds.
Try to avoid places with one girl working. This is almost a guarantee you'll be interrupted at least once.
Don't read a post here and then go "get in line. " Places that get rave reviews here will have an increase in business. If you read an awesome review, give it a week or so for the line to die down. If it is a place that constantly get's rave reviews, ie the VIP phenomenon, then expect to be in line for your turn, but know they may keep enough staff on hand to accommodate the crowds that great reviews generate.
Go back a few pages and read the reviews from the history, then go check them out. They will appreciate you more when they are not so busy.
Be willing to walk out, if there is just one girl, or they are too busy, or any reason you are not feeling like you want to stay.
Going to the out of the way places can be beneficial too. Places surrounded with legit businesses may get a lot more foot traffic.
Iupvoteeveryth
05-31-23, 12:20
Difficult to almost impossible in san diego strip clubs these days. I find it hardly worth my money to go for private dances on this side of the border.
I usually get a BBBJ in the lapdance rooms in Hong Kong. After paying for 20 min of songs (around 30 USD) I'll just be up front. Blow job right now for 100 dollars? And not everyone will say yes but I've had a lot of girls say yes. Cleanup can be a bit awkward afterwards since they don't want to get caught.
Don't be shy about just asking, worst they say is no and you just move onto the next girl.Thanks for the tip I will think about that next time I visit Hong Kong. I usually just save everything for the room.
After my recent encounter at an AMP where the chick farted, twice, while I was eating her pussy, and I nearly inhaled it direct from source I was wondering if getting farted in your mouth is a fetish? Or does that even gross out the most twisted fetishers? I suppose if it's your thing to get defecated and yellow showered on getting farted in your mouth would be a delicacy?
DrPornDawger
06-02-23, 00:08
After my recent encounter at an AMP where the chick farted, twice, while I was eating her pussy, and I nearly inhaled it direct from source I was wondering if getting farted in your mouth is a fetish? Or does that even gross out the most twisted fetishers? I suppose if it's your thing to get defecated and yellow showered on getting farted in your mouth would be a delicacy?It's never happened to me whilst eating them out. But I've had several women who farted and squirt gushes when I'm pounding away and flicking their clit. Sometimes just fingering them will make 'them do it. I guess it's natural and they love it when all their inhibitions are gone and they feel elated.
Rey KittyHawk
06-02-23, 08:48
Your post had me laughing. If she farted "in your mouth" I guess it all depends how she reacted after farting? Stoic, embarrassed, apologetic, excited and all into it?
Years ago, fucking a girl deep with her feet in the air, she crapped the bed during her orgasm. She was all apologies and embarrassed, so I shrugged it off to an amazing orgasm. I was proud of myself for fucking the "shit" out of her.
The second time she did exactly the same thing and was less apologetic and less embarrassed, so I learned, she loved to shit when she orgasmed.
I think everyone has their thing that gets them off, whether you call it a fetish or just a preference is just semantics.
After my recent encounter at an AMP where the chick farted, twice, while I was eating her pussy, and I nearly inhaled it direct from source I was wondering if getting farted in your mouth is a fetish? Or does that even gross out the most twisted fetishers? I suppose if it's your thing to get defecated and yellow showered on getting farted in your mouth would be a delicacy?
MaximusKahn
06-03-23, 11:24
After my recent encounter at an AMP where the chick farted, twice, while I was eating her pussy, and I nearly inhaled it direct from source I was wondering if getting farted in your mouth is a fetish? Or does that even gross out the most twisted fetishers? I suppose if it's your thing to get defecated and yellow showered on getting farted in your mouth would be a delicacy?It all depends on her reaction.
Maybe she was so comfortable she "let go".
Maybe she was thrilled by your work and lost control.
Maybe farting is exciting and adds to her thrill of sexual pleasures.
Maybe she was showing contempt and deliberately farting in your face.
You can judge it best by her reaction.
HermanMiller
06-03-23, 13:59
It all depends on her reaction.
Maybe she was so comfortable she "let go".
Maybe she was thrilled by your work and lost control.
Maybe farting is exciting and adds to her thrill of sexual pleasures.
Maybe she was showing contempt and deliberately farting in your face.
You can judge it best by her reaction.I guess one question is why you stuck around for the second fart. LOL.
I once hooked up with a chick who liked eating stinky butt and inhaling farts. She kept asking me to fart, but alas I was not able to do it on command. If you are, then yes there are people out there with that fetish.
I guess I stayed because I had invested $200 in the encounter and didn't want to cut my loss without any return on investment. To her credit she was embarrassed and apologetic.
I figured those in the asslickers club would savor a direct bottom burp of aerosolized stool down the chute. While I do occasionally enjoy sticking a digit in her orifice, and covered anal sex on a female (with an industrial strength condom), I don't want anything to do with getting hershey squirts on any body part that has direct access to my internal body (such as my urethra and mouth).
I'm acutely aware of the amount of viruses, bacteria, and pathogens that are in the mud. I think the safest way to have anal play is if she does an anal douche or enema. I believe that's how pornstars do it so safely.
I guess one question is why you stuck around for the second fart. LOL.
I once hooked up with a chick who liked eating stinky butt and inhaling farts. She kept asking me to fart, but alas I was not able to do it on command. If you are, then yes there are people out there with that fetish.
CunningLnguist
06-04-23, 13:03
Found this dude on Spankbang who posted videos of a few known SoCal escorts including our own Sweetiee. I've seen a few of the ladies he posted on there. Sweetieexoxo, Torie Rose aka Courtdaplug, Zoe Clark, and my recent favorite GFE provider Jenna Rain. In his Threesome on the Balcony video I know the brunette is on HX. But what I want to know is who the blonde in that video is (unicornnqueen). Her head game looks amazing and I'm hoping she's still providing in SoCal but I can't find info on her anywhere.
https://spankbang.com/profile/bboxofficial
MrGordon16
06-04-23, 16:54
Found this dude on Spankbang who posted videos of a few known SoCal escorts including our own Sweetiee. I've seen a few of the ladies he posted on there. Sweetieexoxo, Torie Rose aka Courtdaplug, Zoe Clark, and my recent favorite GFE provider Jenna Rain. In his Threesome on the Balcony video I know the brunette is on HX. But what I want to know is who the blonde in that video is (unicornnqueen). Her head game looks amazing and I'm hoping she's still providing in SoCal but I can't find info on her anywhere.
https://spankbang.com/profile/bboxofficialSummertimeee on hx.
HermanMiller
06-04-23, 19:48
Found this dude on Spankbang who posted videos of a few known SoCal escorts including our own Sweetiee. I've seen a few of the ladies he posted on there. Sweetieexoxo, Torie Rose aka Courtdaplug, Zoe Clark, and my recent favorite GFE provider Jenna Rain. In his Threesome on the Balcony video I know the brunette is on HX. But what I want to know is who the blonde in that video is (unicornnqueen). Her head game looks amazing and I'm hoping she's still providing in SoCal but I can't find info on her anywhere.
https://spankbang.com/profile/bboxofficialThis is a great find. Leahluv is in SD now too, and it looks like she can suckk a mean dick too.
Found this dude on Spankbang who posted videos of a few known SoCal escorts including our own Sweetiee. I've seen a few of the ladies he posted on there. Sweetieexoxo, Torie Rose aka Courtdaplug, Zoe Clark, and my recent favorite GFE provider Jenna Rain. In his Threesome on the Balcony video I know the brunette is on HX. But what I want to know is who the blonde in that video is (unicornnqueen). Her head game looks amazing and I'm hoping she's still providing in SoCal but I can't find info on her anywhere.
https://spankbang.com/profile/bboxofficialHer HX handle is Summertimee.
Found this dude on Spankbang who posted videos of a few known SoCal escorts including our own Sweetiee. I've seen a few of the ladies he posted on there. Sweetieexoxo, Torie Rose aka Courtdaplug, Zoe Clark, and my recent favorite GFE provider Jenna Rain. In his Threesome on the Balcony video I know the brunette is on HX. But what I want to know is who the blonde in that video is (unicornnqueen). Her head game looks amazing and I'm hoping she's still providing in SoCal but I can't find info on her anywhere.
https://spankbang.com/profile/bboxofficialHer HX handle is Summertimee.
Found this dude on Spankbang who posted videos of a few known SoCal escorts including our own Sweetiee. I've seen a few of the ladies he posted on there. Sweetieexoxo, Torie Rose aka Courtdaplug, Zoe Clark, and my recent favorite GFE provider Jenna Rain. In his Threesome on the Balcony video I know the brunette is on HX. But what I want to know is who the blonde in that video is (unicornnqueen). Her head game looks amazing and I'm hoping she's still providing in SoCal but I can't find info on her anywhere.
https://spankbang.com/profile/bboxofficialThe blonde is Sumertimee on HX.
Member #6437
06-04-23, 23:11
Found this dude on Spankbang who posted videos of a few known SoCal escorts including our own Sweetiee. I've seen a few of the ladies he posted on there. Sweetieexoxo, Torie Rose aka Courtdaplug, Zoe Clark, and my recent favorite GFE provider Jenna Rain. In his Threesome on the Balcony video I know the brunette is on HX. But what I want to know is who the blonde in that video is (unicornnqueen). Her head game looks amazing and I'm hoping she's still providing in SoCal but I can't find info on her anywhere.
https://spankbang.com/profile/bboxofficialI know Sweetie and Courtdaplug, but I'm looking for Jenna Rain and any others. Thanks.
CunningLnguist
06-05-23, 01:36
I know Sweetie and Courtdaplug, but I'm looking for Jenna Rain and any others. Thanks.Jenna Rain is BellaDonna99 on HX. Not sure when she'll be in SD again. Last time she came down it was her 1st time here and it was up in Carlsbad. I had an amazing time with her. One of the best GFE's I've had in a long time. If she ever comes back I'd probably drop everything and go see her for an hour.
CunningLnguist
06-05-23, 01:40
Summertimeee on hx.Thanks to the 4 of you who identified her for me haha. Looks like I was already subscribed to her LOL. Hopefully she makes trips down to SD. I feel like I've seen her advertise down here before. Which probably explains why I'm already subscribed to her.
Found this dude on Spankbang who posted videos of a few known SoCal escorts including our own Sweetiee. I've seen a few of the ladies he posted on there. Sweetieexoxo, Torie Rose aka Courtdaplug, Zoe Clark, and my recent favorite GFE provider Jenna Rain. In his Threesome on the Balcony video I know the brunette is on HX. But what I want to know is who the blonde in that video is (unicornnqueen). Her head game looks amazing and I'm hoping she's still providing in SoCal but I can't find info on her anywhere.
https://spankbang.com/profile/bboxofficialAnyone know if Anna Bailey is a provider here and if so her contact info?
MaximusKahn
06-27-23, 09:00
I have noticed two spas that looked closed.
Not sure if it is due to slow business, LE, or what ever.
Royal on Convoy, Zen on El Norte.
We have a great selection in SD county, so I won't complain. Besides if it's not LE or politics, someone will probably open up in same space and we'll have to see what they'll offer the community.
Angel Pena
06-29-23, 08:56
Anyone know of nice hotels that offer day use for a few hours?
SheriffBart
06-29-23, 10:10
Anyone know of nice hotels that offer day use for a few hours?It's literally called 'Day Use Hotels': https://www.dayuse.com/s/united-states/california/san-diego-county/san-diego.
Angel Pena
06-29-23, 10:21
It's literally called 'Day Use Hotels': https://www.dayuse.com/s/united-states/california/san-diego-county/san-diego.Is it legit tho? I don't want to get scammed LOL.
Is it legit tho? I don't want to get scammed LOL.Yes, used before for non hobby purposes.
HermanMiller
06-29-23, 17:10
Is it legit tho? I don't want to get scammed LOL.Yes. It is legit. You cn always confirm w hotel.
Today I had an interaction with a lady off RubR who also has an ad on LC by the name Jenny. She requests payment in eBay gift cards which I blew off as a scam. During the texting she said she wanted to see evidence of the purchase. A receipt or the card. I asked why would I show her the numbers and she replied she didn't ask to see them, she just wanted to verify I had the card in hand. I declined and moved on.
I did some research on why someone would want gift cards vs cash. Most posts were the obvious. To scam you of the numbers, but some main stream news reports cited prostitutes requesting the cards so cops couldn't take their cash if they got busted.
Now this lady wanted the card for massage and FS and the card after. My current thoughts are that encouraging us to move our cash into an unwanted gift cards locks us in to going through the visit. Unlike with cash which I simply decline to spend. It may also obviate the risk of handing cash over for sex which is illegal in some places.
So now I'm wondering if this is a brilliant move. That I'll never do. To get clients into committing to a visit.
But I decided to pass as I figured there would be a cash and dash scenario.
SillyDickWilly
07-23-23, 21:48
This is happening today at 8 pm at Fallbrook. Message me and send info and pic to make it happen.
DomBlkMilitar
07-24-23, 10:20
This is happening today at 8 pm at Fallbrook. Message me and send info and pic to make it happen.Damn I saw this way too late.
Damn I saw this way too late.Me too, how did the event go? Were all holes open?
MaximusKahn
07-26-23, 10:06
But I decided to pass as I figured there would be a cash and dash scenario.They could be a scam, or used for some of the reason you mentioned.
But she may want to be sure you actually have the payment. I'm sure many girls get stiffed by enough mongers who don't have the money.
Many mongers get annoyed when our girls will stop the action and demand payment before they continue, but they do this because they don't trust new clients. Blame the A-holes who stiffed them in the past.
Once she sees the card, she knows the money is there.
Anyone else have trouble logging in? Sometimes I'm able to log in and stay logged in, but most of the time the site immediately logs me out.
Anyone else have trouble logging in? Sometimes I'm able to log in and stay logged in, but most of the time the site immediately logs me out.Have you tried checking the "Remember Me" box next to the log in fields? I had the same problem before I started doing that. I can leave the page open on my phone's browser all day and stay signed in since I've started checking the box.
Good luck to you.
-TJNiko.
HorneyDog1C
08-02-23, 00:58
When I click on the photos they stay the same small size. Before they would be good size (about 1/2 or more of my screen). What's the problem?
I was not sure what forum to post this in. I thought maybe stupid shit, but I don't know. I am looking to hire a girl to help me with a fantasy football draft party. Basically we hire a girl to be our topless Vanna White for a night. No sex or anything like that is involved. We just like a little eye candy while we draft.
I've hit up numerous girls who advertise FBSM in the $200 per hour range and most of them want upwards of $1,000 per hour for the gig. I don't get it. They'll provide a one hour massage with HE for $$ but they want 5 X that amount for putting names on a board? Also I'd think a guaranteed 4 hr gig is better than hoping to get 2 or 3 in a 4 hr period on a Friday evening.
Anyway, if any of you know a good looking girl who might be interested in this gig, please send me a pm.
BeachDrone
08-07-23, 12:13
I peruse LC and CallEscort from time to time knowing that 95% of the ads are fake or scams. Sometimes, when I'm a little bored and up for some fun, I text one of the obviously fake or scam ads just to mess with them. A few recently aroused my curiosity. They are obviously fake or scam ads but their phone number is disconnected or not in service and their Snapchat is also fake or non-existant. So how do they get potential victims of the scam if you cannot contact them? An example of one of these is https://callescort.org/619-324-5888. What's the point of a completely fake ad? I don't get it. But maybe I'm trying to apply logic where it does not apply.
RChangDatyKing
08-08-23, 13:15
I was not sure what forum to post this in. I thought maybe stupid shit, but I don't know. I am looking to hire a girl to help me with a fantasy football draft party. Basically we hire a girl to be our topless Vanna White for a night. No sex or anything like that is involved. We just like a little eye candy while we draft.
I've hit up numerous girls who advertise FBSM in the $200 per hour range and most of them want upwards of $1,000 per hour for the gig. I don't get it. They'll provide a one hour massage with HE for $$ but they want 5 X that amount for putting names on a board? Also I'd think a guaranteed 4 hr gig is better than hoping to get 2 or 3 in a 4 hr period on a Friday evening.
Anyway, if any of you know a good looking girl who might be interested in this gig, please send me a pm.My guess is, the provider is / feels she has total control when she is hosting at her incall. She controls how the sessions goes, what services she will offer and she's only with one person. Doing a gig like what you want or "parties" she's having to deal with multiple / lots of guys (many or all she's never met before), don't know if there are cameras or video recording her, don't know how guys will behave when they are drinking and in their home / setting. I think these are some of the reasons / risks that make them want to charge higher. Just my thoughts.
RChangDatyKing
08-08-23, 15:20
Many have asked how I get independents to expand their menu. From my experience, most will eventually offer it. Being a repeat customer is number one key IMO. Then having chemistry. And of course good hygiene, that's why many will say in their ads that showers are available or come freshly showered. Another important thing is scheduling longer appointments to get to know the girls. Quickies work for many but you can't develop chemistry with the ladies in 10 minutes. I always schedule 60 minute sessions and recently are doing 90 minutes. A lot of times I'm there for 2 hours plus.
I see many ladies are now including in their ad, Upgrades Discussed in Person, VIP available for repeat clients, etc. I personally never book a VIP session. I rather do $300 for 90 minutes several times and eventually the upgrades happen naturally without any discussions of tips. Sorry I'm not paying $200- $400 more for 10 minutes of FS upgrades. I rather go to the agencies, or AMPs instead and get 2-3 sessions.
Have I spent over $500 before, yes! One time for my favorite porn star 10 years ago for $750/ hour. Double with 2 hotties for $600 five years ago. Now, $350/ hour is my max and she has to be in my top 5. LOL.
I m newbie here. I recently had an a session with masseuse. She kissed me all over and did blow air on my area. She did give covered oral. However I am worried if she gave a lick before covering me.
Masseuse said she is 100% clean. I don't see any sores or any lesions on her body either. She stripped at that time. I didn't touch her privates. I did kiss her body back. She did massage me after everything and rubbed my Anus a little.
What do you think about this? Am I at risk of any sti?
What is your advice on how I can go about this safely?
Also when someone says they are clean, do we trust them?
Please provide your inputs. I appreciate your responses.
I m newbie here. I recently had an a session with masseuse. She kissed me all over and did blow air on my area. She did give covered oral. However I am worried if she gave a lick before covering me.
Masseuse said she is 100% clean. I don't see any sores or any lesions on her body either. She stripped at that time. I didn't touch her privates. I did kiss her body back. She did massage me after everything and rubbed my Anus a little.
What do you think about this? Am I at risk of any sti?
What is your advice on how I can go about this safely?
Also when someone says they are clean, do we trust them?
Please provide your inputs. I appreciate your responses.Of course it's a possibility but very rare from only oral especially if covered. If you're really paranoid there are many health clinics around the city that does free STD tests. I recommend it because when I've had paranoid scares, I've taken the test to check and they definitely make me feel better LOL.
RChangDatyKing
08-08-23, 18:51
I m newbie here. I recently had an a session with masseuse. She kissed me all over and did blow air on my area. She did give covered oral. However I am worried if she gave a lick before covering me.
Masseuse said she is 100% clean. I don't see any sores or any lesions on her body either. She stripped at that time. I didn't touch her privates. I did kiss her body back. She did massage me after everything and rubbed my Anus a little.
What do you think about this? Am I at risk of any sti?
What is your advice on how I can go about this safely?
Also when someone says they are clean, do we trust them?
Please provide your inputs. I appreciate your responses.I know I'm taking a risk when I hobby. When I step into a massage room there are risks. Did they change the sheets and small towel that will be covering my backside? I hate massage tables with those gel face cradles. Did they sanitize, spray alcohol and wiped that down before I put my face on it? When I see one of those I always spray it with the alcohol in the room. I also add another layer of paper towels to separate my face and the table / sheets. At FS spas, I have to wonder did the girls clean herself after she was done with the customers before me? My regulars always excuse themselves to go freshen up or we shower together before we start the sessions. That's why I don't do quickies or 30 minutes sessions. I also bring my individual packets of mouthwash and the masseuse and I do a quick rinse together. I ask for an alcohol spray or use sanitizer and they do the same when they see me do it. These are some of the precautions I take. Yes, a masseuse might be clean at 8 am, but you saw her at 8 pm. How many guys did she see in between that might not be clean. All the masseuses I see kiss my body every time I see them, and everything else if I'm getting a FS session. There are risks IMO when I hobby. To be 100 percent safe, don't get any extras beyond a regular therapeutic massage is the only advice I can give. I take precautions.
I know I'm taking a risk when I hobby. When I step into a massage room there are risks. Did they change the sheets and small towel that will be covering my backside? I hate massage tables with those gel face cradles. Did they sanitize, spray alcohol and wiped that down before I put my face on it? When I see one of those I always spray it with the alcohol in the room. I also add another layer of paper towels to separate my face and the table / sheets. At FS spas, I have to wonder did the girls clean herself after she was done with the customers before me? My regulars always excuse themselves to go freshen up or we shower together before we start the sessions. That's why I don't do quickies or 30 minutes sessions. I also bring my individual packets of mouthwash and the masseuse and I do a quick rinse together. I ask for an alcohol spray or use sanitizer and they do the same when they see me do it. These are some of the precautions I take. Yes, a masseuse might be clean at 8 am, but you saw her at 8 pm. How many guys did she see in between that might not be clean. All the masseuses I see kiss my body every time I see them, and everything else if I'm getting a FS session. There are risks IMO when I hobby. To be 100 percent safe, don't get any extras beyond a regular therapeutic massage is the only advice I can give. I take precautions.I see. I understand. She did put paper towel on where I put my face. Not sure if she spray sanitized both the table and head rest. Didn't see it happen in front of me. I did see heer change the sheet in front of me. There was a shower. I did shower right after. Your response is helpful but did keep my scare up still. I have to wait 1 day at a time until my scare goes away. Will keep prepared from my end going forward. Thanks RChangDatyKing.
Of course it's a possibility but very rare from only oral especially if covered. If you're really paranoid there are many health clinics around the city that does free STD tests. I recommend it because when I've had paranoid scares, I've taken the test to check and they definitely make me feel better LOL.Sure, will plan to test. But its quite a wait for few weeks for me. Just praying that nothing happens and all goes well.
Of course it's a possibility but very rare from only oral especially if covered. If you're really paranoid there are many health clinics around the city that does free STD tests. I recommend it because when I've had paranoid scares, I've taken the test to check and they definitely make me feel better LOL.Waiting is nerve wrecking. How do you guys deal with Counting days?
What is ideal timeline to get tested? If you guys can share. It would immensely help.
I was not sure what forum to post this in. I thought maybe stupid shit, but I don't know. I am looking to hire a girl to help me with a fantasy football draft party. Basically we hire a girl to be our topless Vanna White for a night. No sex or anything like that is involved. We just like a little eye candy while we draft.
I've hit up numerous girls who advertise FBSM in the $200 per hour range and most of them want upwards of $1,000 per hour for the gig. I don't get it. They'll provide a one hour massage with HE for $$ but they want 5 X that amount for putting names on a board? Also I'd think a guaranteed 4 hr gig is better than hoping to get 2 or 3 in a 4 hr period on a Friday evening.
Anyway, if any of you know a good looking girl who might be interested in this gig, please send me a pm.I think you're better off finding some local strippers on SM and trying to book them for something like this instead.
My guess is, the provider is / feels she has total control when she is hosting at her incall. She controls how the sessions goes, what services she will offer and she's only with one person. Doing a gig like what you want or "parties" she's having to deal with multiple / lots of guys (many or all she's never met before), don't know if there are cameras or video recording her, don't know how guys will behave when they are drinking and in their home / setting. I think these are some of the reasons / risks that make them want to charge higher. Just my thoughts.Bingo. A dancer I used to know asked me to accompany her to a couple of bachelor parties. It was uncomfortable for me being in a situation where I could easily get my ass kicked by multiple guys, no less a woman alone. I don't think she ever tipped me, either!
I get that. And the safety aspect makes sense. But we've actually hired a few well known FBSM providers before and offer them as references (if they're cool with it). It's just funny to me in general that they'd want more money for less "work".
But to your point, I'm looking at it from the standpoint of knowing that they're perfectly safe and they're considering the unknown. I even usually off to schedule a massage appointment before the party to try to get comfortable with each other.
But anyways, one senior member sent me over a contact who's interested.
Bingo. A dancer I used to know asked me to accompany her to a couple of bachelor parties. It was uncomfortable for me being in a situation where I could easily get my ass kicked by multiple guys, no less a woman alone. I don't think she ever tipped me, either!
Many have asked how I get independents to expand their menu. From my experience, most will eventually offer it. Being a repeat customer is number one key IMO. Then having chemistry. And of course good hygiene, that's why many will say in their ads that showers are available or come freshly showered. Another important thing is scheduling longer appointments to get to know the girls. Quickies work for many but you can't develop chemistry with the ladies in 10 minutes. I always schedule 60 minute sessions and recently are doing 90 minutes. A lot of times I'm there for 2 hours plus.
I see many ladies are now including in their ad, Upgrades Discussed in Person, VIP available for repeat clients, etc. I personally never book a VIP session. I rather do $300 for 90 minutes several times and eventually the upgrades happen naturally without any discussions of tips. Sorry I'm not paying $200- $400 more for 10 minutes of FS upgrades. I rather go to the agencies, or AMPs instead and get 2-3 sessions.
Have I spent over $500 before, yes! One time for my favorite porn star 10 years ago for $750/ hour. Double with 2 hotties for $600 five years ago. Now, $350/ hour is my max and she has to be in my top 5. LOL.Great advice! The last minute VIP upgrade halfway into a fbsm session normally leaves you with buyer's remorse. 100% correct on hygiene. Even if I showered earlier, I'll get in their rain locker and go through the motions again to remove any doubts from the provider's mind. They all seem to appreciate it.
Sadddkdwwws
08-09-23, 12:36
I know I'm taking a risk when I hobby. When I step into a massage room there are risks. Did they change the sheets and small towel that will be covering my backside? I hate massage tables with those gel face cradles. Did they sanitize, spray alcohol and wiped that down before I put my face on it? When I see one of those I always spray it with the alcohol in the room. I also add another layer of paper towels to separate my face and the table / sheets. At FS spas, I have to wonder did the girls clean herself after she was done with the customers before me? My regulars always excuse themselves to go freshen up or we shower together before we start the sessions. That's why I don't do quickies or 30 minutes sessions. I also bring my individual packets of mouthwash and the masseuse and I do a quick rinse together. I ask for an alcohol spray or use sanitizer and they do the same when they see me do it. These are some of the precautions I take. Yes, a masseuse might be clean at 8 am, but you saw her at 8 pm. How many guys did she see in between that might not be clean. All the masseuses I see kiss my body every time I see them, and everything else if I'm getting a FS session. There are risks IMO when I hobby. To be 100 percent safe, don't get any extras beyond a regular therapeutic massage is the only advice I can give. I take precautions.To King's point. I was recently at a popular spot seeing a popular girl mentioned multiple times on this board. While I was waiting for her I took it upon myself to change the towel they had wrapped around the headrest with a fresh one. I'm glad I did because after the massage and deed were done and I was getting dressed. She did absolutely zero. I mean zero. Cleanup on the table. She simply readjusted the sheet where my doink had been laying against while I was face down and where my ass crack was when I flipped. I was really disgusted and overtaken with post-nut remorse and I slumped out of there realizing this may very well be the norm and not an anomaly for the AMP scene.
It's been years since I've seen her, but she was one of my atf's. She suddenly dropped off the map. Just curious if anyone knows what came of her.
https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/stacy-adams-escort-san-diego-5893#erotic.
DrPornDawger
08-16-23, 16:57
It's been years since I've seen her, but she was one of my atf's. She suddenly dropped off the map. Just curious if anyone knows what came of her.
https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/stacy-adams-escort-san-diego-5893#erotic.Damn that brings some memories of that red headed vixen.
https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/stacy-adams-8587660592-161995
I have partaken with that BBW. It was ok, I remember sometimes it's a challenge getting a hold of her.
DrPornDawger
08-16-23, 17:01
Interesting read and I believe there's 2 sides of the coin, but am I (or are we) letting it happen for our own benefits.
Gregory Higley Article:
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-human-trafficking-that-goes-on-at-massage-places
Highly unlikely.
I dated an Asian woman involved in the business for many years and had a front row seat to its internal operations. She had friends all over the country involved in the business as both masseuses and owners. We traveled a lot and met a great many of them. Why should you believe me? Well, read what I'm about to say and use a little bit of common sense.
You can be an opponent of prostitution and still upvote this post. Whatever you may think of prostitution, do you think it's right that a whole group of people is being falsely accused of human trafficking and sex slavery?
Does prostitution go on at Asian massage parlors?
Of course. It's mostly handjobs, not exactly a public health emergency. Did it occur at my ex-girlfriend's place? I have no first-hand knowledge. .
Since some people seem to be confused by this point, I want to stress that human trafficking and prostitution are not the same thing. The masseuses are prostitutes. They are not trafficked. That is, they participate voluntarily in prostitution in order to make money. They are not forced to do so in any way. Are there incentives that keep them in the business? Yes. But these financial incentives are no different than those that occur in my line of work: great compensation. They only seem "sinister" if you believe that prostitution is always evil and wrong, which I do not. (However, I don't believe that prostitution is "normal" work, like flipping burgers or writing software. Human emotions and biology see to that. Sexuality is complex. I have a complicated personal attitude towards prostitution, but whatever the case it should not be illegal and should not be confused with human trafficking.) In addition, let's stress again what most of these women do most of the time: Handjobs.
Do the masseuses live in the spas?
Often they do, yes. This is not because they are sex slaves or indentured servants, but because they are itinerant workers. They will often work in one place for a few weeks or months, take a break, and then move on to another spa or just as often to another city or state. Why get a car and apartment if youre only going to be in a place for a few months?
The other reason they live in the spas is because of how they prefer to work. The masseuses want to work 7 days a week for several months and then take an extended break with no work at all, in which they usually travel, typically to Los Angeles or NYC. As a result, it is much easier to live where you work and simply focus on making money until you take your break.
My ex-girfriends masseuses did not live in her spa, because she was lucky enough to have an apartment within walking distance that she rented for their use. This is not as common an arrangement, but definitely does occur at many spas.
Are the masseuses licensed?
Usually yes. My ex-girlfriend certainly was and she only employed licensed masseuses. She was very strict about this. And finding licensed Asian masseuses (as detailed below) is pretty easy. Its my understanding that the vast majority are licensed.
I will admit that there are some owners who play fast and loose with this, hiring unlicensed masseuses, but its fairly rare. I think it depends upon how diligent the local authorities are in checking licenses, but I can only speculate.
Who owns the spas?
Women do, almost exclusively.
I never encountered a male owner. My ex-gf told me there are a few, but they are very rare. It is not considered a business suitable for a man. If you see in the news that a man was the owner of a spa, he probably wasnt. He was just the owner on paper, but in this business, the owner on paper is just a formality. In fact, a woman who owns 5 spas might list those spas with 5 different de jure owners, usually family members or very trusted friends, but shes the de facto owner.
This is almost always a family business. It is not run by big shadowy organizations.
Theres a revolving door of owners and masseuses. My ex-gf worked for a few years at it and then bought her former bosss spa. She then opened another in a different state. Many of her masseuses were previously owners who decided they didnt want to do it anymore.
How are potential masseuses found?
They certainly arent found through a human trafficking network. They are found in the way many employees are found these days: by placing an ad. This is typically done in an Asian website based in NY. Potential masseuses respond, they have a video chat via WeChat Ill have more to say about WeChat below and the usual sorts of employment negotiations occur.
If its a go, the masseuse flies in and is picked up at the airport. She then goes to work. If she lives in the spa, as is typical, she will leave her luggage and perhaps a few personal items with the owner. Unless of course the owner also lives in the spa, which is fairly common, too. In that case, the owner probably has a car and they will put that stuff in the trunk of her car.
Youll often hear Flushing, NY, mentioned when the police make allegations of human trafficking. Flushing has one of the largest populations of Chinese and Koreans together in the United States, so naturally almost all masseuses pass through Flushing. My ex-gf herself lived in Flushing for nearly a year when she first arrived here many years ago.
How does the business work?
A typical door fee for an hours massage is $70. Out of this, the owner keeps $40 and the masseuse gets $30. Any tips she gets from the customer are hers to keep. The owner gets 0% of the tips. Lets imagine she gives a very happy massage and the customer tips her $40, a pretty standard tip. This means shes made $70.
At a typical place, a masseuse will see an average of 4 customers per day, so thats $280 per day, $8,400 per month, $100,800 per year. (Because they take several long breaks, its likely to be less, probably at least $80,000 per year. But no matter how you slice and dice it, the masseuses make great money and have very few expenses.)
Thats a lot of money for a trafficked sex slave, isnt it?
The owners often work (and sometimes even live) in their own spas. This is because they make less than the masseuses unless they do so. The owner is responsible for all of the usual business expenses: rent, electricity, internet, upkeep and maintenance, insurance, taxes, and so on. If an owner has two masseuses (very common) and each sees 4 customers each day, the owners gross income is $9,600 per month. But after subtracting the various expenses, its typically closer to $6,000 - $7,000 or so. Not terrible, but most dont find this acceptable. So if you go into a spa with two masseuses, theres very good odds that one of them owns it. Dont bother asking, though, they dont like those kinds of questions.
The incentive for an owner to work in her own spa is very strong. They can make really good money. A friend of my ex-gf looks like an Asian swimsuit model and is very, very popular. She owns her own spa and (at a guess) probably sees at least six or eight customers per day herself. In addition, she has two other masseuses that work for her. I dont know exactly what she makes, but lets try to guess. As the owner, she keeps the entire door fee and her tips. If she sees six customers per day (a conservative estimate), thats $420 per day, $12,600 per month, $151,200 per year. She takes a few breaks, but not much, so lets say its $130,000 per year. However, she also gets part of the door fees for her two masseuses. Lets say they see the usual 4 per day (also a conservative estimate), so the owner gets roughly an additional $100,000 per year from them. So thats $230,000 per year. She has to pay the upkeep for the spa, which Ill guess is about $2,500 per month, $30,000 per year, so shes making at least $200,000 per year. (I think she makes a good deal more.) I do know that she owned a slightly used Maserati when I met her. Sex slavery my ass.
Do the owners push prostitution at the spas?
Most dont. They have a like/fear relationship with it. Remember, the owners make no money directly from handjobs. Their money comes purely from the door. But indirectly, its what customers expect and its what keeps them coming back for more.
The problem is that handjobs bring unwanted attention. I cant tell you how many times I heard from owners about the ideal massage business: One that had a great many customers but only did massage! If you understand my description above of how this business works, this sentiment should be obvious to you.
So why dont they just do this? After all, theres Massage Envy. The problem is that Asian masseuses would not be happy earning the usual pay of a completely legitimate massage therapist. They want to make serious money. So if an owner tells the girls no extras the result is more likely to be no masseuses.
Hows that for standing the standard narrative on its head? We hear that the masseuses are sex slaves kept in bondage by the owners, but the truth is that its the masseuses themselves that drive the prostitution side of the business far more than the owners. Given my explanation of how the business works, five seconds of reflection should tell you why that is.
Of course, there are periods of heavy law enforcement activity when the spas batten down the hatches and go only massage for a while except with established customers.
OK, great, Greg, but maybe youre just lying. Whats the evidence that these women are not victims of human trafficking and sex slavery?
Im glad you asked! Ponder this question for a moment:
Do sex slaves have the latest smartphones, bank accounts at Chase (they love Chase!) with lots of saved money, Louis Vuitton handbags, kids in American colleges, and a history of travel all around the country?
Not bloody likely. You can be sure that the police and media in recent cases have not bothered to check these very obvious, easily confirmed bits of data. The police certainly have the ability to check this out after arrests have occurred. Ask yourself why they have not done so. Perhaps because it wouldnt fit the narrative they want us to believe.
(Hint to police: When youve made an arrest at a spa for the heinous, unspeakable crime of giving a handjob, take a look at the model of smartphone the masseuse has. If you have the power to do so, look in her purse. Youll find credit cards, debit cards, perhaps checkbooks, probably a good sum of cash, etc. Then ask yourself: Does it make sense that a sex slave would have these things?)
Heres another thing to consider. WeChat is by far the most popular chat application used by Koreans and Chinese. There is in fact a vast network of owners and masseuses in this business who talk to each other on WeChat. But it is not a human trafficking network. Its more like an informal business association. And oh boy does news travel fast on this network! If any owner tried to keep some low-paid sex slaves or indentured servants (as one very ill-informed or perhaps disingenuous sheriff in Florida has tried to claim), news of this would be on WeChat immediately.
Also, the spas are run the same way everywhere, from Alaska to Florida, from California to New York. There is a kind of template. A new masseuse does not have to be given some kind of orientation to work at a new place. She already knows how it works. If an owner diverged from this template, say by cruelly enslaving the masseuses, it would be noticed very quickly.
What about the Robert Kraft case?
Sheriff Snyder has recently admitted he has insufficient evidence (read: no evidence at all) of human trafficking in that case.
I'm not surprised and you shouldn't be either. The women he arrested almost certainly make more money than the officers who arrested them.
So what’s up with the human trafficking claims?
Betty Miller and Kristeen Smart Kish have written answers which talk about human trafficking in the spas and provide links to many resources about it. I encourage you to read them. I have no reason to doubt their contents at all. A lot of it is shocking, chilling, and evil.
But they omit one crucial detail: They don’t tell you what percentage of the business is trafficked. In fact, no one has been able to provide this information. (I’ve asked both Betty and Kristeen in comments. No response.) For instance, the Polaris Project says they have no official position on this. In other words, they don’t know! The advocate I spoke with wouldn’t even hazard a guess. Is it 1%? 50%? 99%? Rare? Uncommon? Widespread? No answer. Think about that. If they truly believed it was widespread, don’t you think they would say so? I think they know it’s quite rare and don’t want to say so, for reasons I explain below.
Apropos of this, I’ve asked the following Quora question:
Of women who work at Asian massage parlors, what percentage are trafficked and what is the evidence for that percentage?
If you think you can answer it with real evidence, please do, but I’m not holding my breath.
Human trafficking goes on in agriculture as well, but no one imagines that agriculture is a business in which all workers are trafficked. But they do imagine this for the Asian massage business. Why?
Racism
Sexism
Puritanism
The illegality of prostitution
The incentives of elected sheriffs, the media, the anti-trafficking organizations, anti-prostitution activists, and “legitimate” massage therapists
Real instances of human trafficking
The racism and sexism arises because people stereotype Asian women as helpless, submissive, ignorant victims. It’s easy for them to imagine that that these women are the victims of a diabolical scheme to sell their bodies.
Puritanism has a long history in the United States. Many people find it very hard to believe that a woman would choose to give handjobs for a living. Ergo, they must be coerced!
Prostitution is illegal. Because of this, the business has to live partly underground. They are suspicious of outsiders. So people don’t really know what goes on and their imaginations run wild. In addition, many people conflate human trafficking and prostitution. They think that if you’re a prostitute, you’re trafficked.
The incentive of elected sheriffs to crow about rescuing people from human trafficking is obvious. When they actually do so, I think that’s wonderful and I can’t praise them enough. But I’ve seen no convincing evidence from the grandstanding sheriffs in recent news reports that they’ve actually discovered or busted any human trafficking. If you understand how most of this business actually works, then you know that they are (willfully) misunderstanding some of the things they see, like the masseuses living in the spas.
The media’s incentive here is obvious. Lurid stories of human trafficking and sex slavery bring in more eyeballs and those eyeballs view more ads, which brings in more revenue. I’ve seen no incentive on the part of the media to actually investigate whether there really is human trafficking going on. They seem to just accept the claims of law enforcement and activists at face value. Not much to say here and I don’t expect the media to be worth a bucket of spit when it comes to this. View everything they say about this with deep skepticism. (One wonderful exception to this is Reason’s Elizabeth Nolan Brown, who has written extensively about this very topic and has actually done her homework.)
The incentive of the anti-trafficking organizations is also obvious: more donations. We need organizations that combat human trafficking. But we also need them to be honest about it. Notice that these organizations never talk about or even attempt to estimate how widespread it is in any of their reports. (If anyone finds direct evidence that they have done so, please let me know in the comments.) This serves their interests because we then assume that it is very widespread or even the norm. And that brings more donations. When arrests occur, they never raise their hands and say, “Hey sheriff, maybe this one is not human trafficking! Maybe these are actually consensual sex workers.” (That’ll be the day.)
The incentive of “legitimate” massage therapists is also straightforward, and in a way I can’t blame them. They hate the fact that they are always suspected of being prostitutes. But that doesn’t give them the right to claim or imply that all Asian massage therapists are sex slaves.
Anti-prostitution activists, the police, and lawmakers have been frustrated for a long time that the spas are very difficult to bust. Laws passed to inconvenience the Asian spas also inconvenience the customers of “regular” massage therapists. One can’t simply pass a law outlawing Asians in massage, as that would be discriminatory. In addition, the public is mostly apathetic about prostitution. It’s not considered a big deal to most as long as it doesn’t occur in their neighborhood. But then the human trafficking scare descended like manna from heaven! Suddenly it’s widely believed that Asian masseuses are terrible victims of sex slavery. White knights of the sheriffs office to the rescue! Under cover of busting up evil trafficking rings, spas are shuttered. Or at least, they’re trying to, with mixed success. Because the human trafficking accusations are mostly bunk and the evidence flimsy, convictions will be difficult to get and I think this avenue will eventually fizzle out. I could be wrong, but I hope I’m not. I think the spas are here to stay.
There is some human trafficking that goes on. I think it’s very rare and probably occurs in large cities like New York. The anti-trafficking organizations and law enforcement do admirable work rescuing these women. But these real incidents are then used to tar the whole industry without any evidence. (If Polaris has evidence that trafficking is widespread, why won’t they estimate its prevalence?)
All of this creates a moral panic in which people want to rush in to the rescue of people who don’t want to be rescued and don’t need to be rescued. It also diverts resources away from actual victims of trafficking towards people who are merely prostitutes. (And here my ire is directed primarily at the anti-trafficking organizations, who should be deeply ashamed of themselves for this.)
What’s the solution?
Legalize prostitution. That’s really the only way. Then most of these women will come out of the shadows. It will be much more straightforward to tell who is trafficked and who is not without the distraction of another “crime” being committed.
In addition, the masseuses will abandon massage therapy, since it’s mostly a cover anyway. This will please the “legitimate” massage therapists because the association between prostitution and massage therapy will be broken.
Prostitution is ineradicable. No volley of laws from statehouses, no police crackdowns, nothing will eliminate it. Never has, never will.
One of my commenters, Nicole Emma, said that “[W]e ask for full decriminalization, not legalization. In the case of sex work, legalization puts many restrictions and fees on the workers and puts the government as our managers, most of whom have already shown to be abusive and oppressive. Legalization still disenfranchises the most vulnerable and marginalized, and still inflicts legal punishments for not meeting criteria or paying fees. Decriminalization treats the business as any other business, and the workers as workers in any other field.”
I wholeheartedly agree with this. The kind of legalization I want is total laissez-faire, i.e., keep the government out of it entirely. Since that is unlikely to occur any time soon, decriminalization will better achieve that goal until we can have a society truly organized along voluntary lines.
No one defends the spas
The spas have many, many secret fans and very few people brave enough to defend them in public. This makes them an easy target for the evil, ignorant lies and misunderstandings now being spread by the police and the media.
I’m humbled that Jini Ellyne upvoted and shared this, but I’d love to see some more women do the same. Do sex-positive feminists no longer exist? Well, turns out they do! Recently I’ve been getting a large number of upvotes from women. I’m not sure what changed to make that happen, but thank you!
I feel proud that I’m not afraid to stand up and say “no!” to this vicious human trafficking and sex slavery lie. My family, friends, and even co-workers, wonderfully open-minded people, knew my ex-gf and were aware of what she did for a living. I opened many minds with frank discussions and am therefore completely immune to the sorts of repercussions most fear.
How can I help?
These smart, enterprising women need your help to combat this vicious slander. Upvote this answer. Share it. Get an anonymous email account and start sending links to this Quora answer to media outlets. If enough of them see it, perhaps they’ll at least publicly question the human trafficking allegations. Perhaps they’ll get the police to do real police work. Hell, send it to the police, too, though I think that is much less useful.
Thanks for the great post. When I see the posted crowing about a bust, I just think it's a political stunt and a demand for more funding for the the and / PD.
Sadddkdwwws
08-17-23, 13:29
Interesting read and I believe there's 2 sides of the coin, but am I (or are we) letting it happen for our own benefits.
Gregory Higley Article:
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-human-trafficking-that-goes-on-at-massage-places
Highly unlikely.One of the main issue is paying taxes and eventually perhaps the states will start to decriminalize and make the AMP networks legal the same way many states did so with cannabis. However it was a long time coming and there has not been a state ready to take this plunge yet it seems. Of course state legalization does not create immunity from federal prosecution but thus far it seems like the feds are staying out of the cannabis fray and letting the states self regulate as they see fit.
However the taxes created by the states for the cannabis owners seems to be creating a headwind for many and thus there is still a fair share of shadow sellers out there and the same would probably bode true for the AMP industry if there ever was a legalization. It will be a slow pot to boil and have to go through the same voting rigmarole cannabis encountered that focused on the ethical and moral issues surrounding it.
Which brings me to my question Greg. Of the $100 k-$200 k you mentioned these girls can earn how much, to your knowledge, are they reporting on their tax returns? I assume thee business owners must be reporting some taxes and therefore the county, state and feds get a piece of the pie, however the working girls, I assume, are reporting very little if any.
It's been years since I've seen her. Just figured I'd throw the question out to see if anyone had any intel on her whereabouts. She was a great red headed PAWG, I never had any issues with scheduling or meeting up, but when she stopped posting ads, she just completely went dark. No more responses. So I figured she quit the life, and settled down maybe? Idk, I was just curious.
Damn that brings some memories of that red headed vixen.
https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/stacy-adams-8587660592-161995
I have partaken with that BBW. It was ok, I remember sometimes it's a challenge getting a hold of her.
MaximusKahn
08-19-23, 11:27
DrPornDawger, your experience and wisdom speak volumes.
LE goes after Massage Spas because they re visible to the public and an easy target to show results to the same public.
I think there are two points you might have missed. One is that I'm not sure all MMS share the house fee with all providers. Some girl work for tips alone.
Also some girls owe money for "loans" to be transported and housed. Which cuts into their personal profits and pays the MMS. Sure some maybe most operate as you say, but there are some MMS who are not so generous or honest as you've experienced.
I think true trafficking is less like a massage parlor and more like a bordello. Girls are there for sex. The locations are less visible, and may be mobile.
Girls would be younger, as youth has value in the sex trade. They may also be cyber models who entertain through the web. In these circumstances the girls are not free, don't have money, and are never without a handler very near by. They are managed and watched and move regularly so LE has a difficult time finding and following them.
So who do you go after with the goal of stopping sex trafficking? The visible, in place, infamous, "massage parlors" and claim a victory to law and order.
Massage Spa are above see level, the true trafficking business is way below see level.
Have you tried checking the "Remember Me" box next to the log in fields? I had the same problem before I started doing that. I can leave the page open on my phone's browser all day and stay signed in since I've started checking the box.
Good luck to you.
-TJNiko.This works bud. Thank you!
RChangDatyKing
09-28-23, 15:05
When seeing your favorite "Chinese" or "Asian" masseuse / providers tomorrow / this weekend don't forget to wish them a good Mid-Autumn Festival holiday. Maybe bring them a moon cake or something sweet.
https://time.com/6212026/countries-celebrate-mid-autumn-festival/
Happy mid-autumn festival everyone and stay safe!
All these kids want video verification. I have google voice but not going to facetime or use meet on my phone. Any suggestions besides get a burner? Thanks team.
DomBlkMilitar
10-05-23, 10:31
All these kids want video verification. I have google voice but not going to facetime or use meet on my phone. Any suggestions besides get a burner? Thanks team.I would have recommended using an app with an acct tied to burner email so you could use meet, instagram, X,etc.
Sir Bishop
10-05-23, 12:36
All these kids want video verification. I have google voice but not going to facetime or use meet on my phone. Any suggestions besides get a burner? Thanks team.Doing FaceTime with someone does not verify who you are. It does verify the cell number. If the other person wants to make sure you are not popo, nope, video verification can't do that either. Don't do video. It can be recorded and it shows them your true cell number.
Google Meet is linked to my Google Voice burner app.
All these kids want video verification. I have google voice but not going to facetime or use meet on my phone. Any suggestions besides get a burner? Thanks team.
CunningLnguist
10-31-23, 18:44
Happy Halloween mongers! Anybody see any providers today in costume? I banged a blonde haired pirate today!
Member #6555
10-31-23, 20:12
All these kids want video verification. I have google voice but not going to facetime or use meet on my phone. Any suggestions besides get a burner? Thanks team.I use Text now app to message them. Most of these girls usually have snapchat as well. I use that to video verify since there are no numbers involved.
One provider i messaged last night though wanted me to send a selfie with my government ID.....lmao FUCK that
MaximusKahn
11-21-23, 11:09
Been enjoining my regulars so haven't been exploring too much but have made a few stops here and there.
I'm noticing the hour fees are slowly creeping up. Some at. 7 and other going to. 8. Being an hour long massage guy I got accustomed to the. 6 right away as natural inflation and covid fall out, but rising to. 8 is getting too common in my travels.
I didn't look but I'd have to assume the half hour fees are rising too.
Been enjoining my regulars so haven't been exploring too much but have made a few stops here and there.
I'm noticing the hour fees are slowly creeping up. Some at. 7 and other going to. 8. Being an hour long massage guy I got accustomed to the. 6 right away as natural inflation and covid fall out, but rising to. 8 is getting too common in my travels.
I didn't look but I'd have to assume the half hour fees are rising too.I have been sugaring for the past 7 years. I have seen fees going up also. I have always treated my dates right, mounting raw this college latina in the OC, 4 bens per pop. I have never short change her, always respectful, dinner / lunch / late night, yet lately, she has been saying she want to increase to 6 and started giving me attitude. Idk, sometimes, I feel like when we respect the terms, we or at least me, always ended up on the short end of the stick. That sucks, well, im not putting up w/ that bs.
RChangDatyKing
11-23-23, 15:12
Happy Thanksgiving ladies and gentlemen!
I can't wait to feast on my favorite desserts today.
https://x.com/5300dean/status/1730799589366624270?s=46
Anybody spot themselves? LOL.
RChangDatyKing
12-03-23, 11:33
https://x.com/5300dean/status/1730799589366624270?s=46
Anybody spot themselves? LOL.I guess that's how it would look to a nosy neighbor. LOL. That's why I prefer going to non FS AMPs and medical like building to see independents. I absolutely will not go see providers with Ring doorbells.
MaximusKahn
12-06-23, 10:48
https://x.com/5300dean/status/1730799589366624270?s=46
Anybody spot themselves? LOL.No matter where you go, FS AMP, Non FS AMP, Escort, Strip club, TJ, local taco shop, driving through town, driving on the highway, you are on someone's camera feed.
Thinking you are sly and careful to avoid cameras will only get you disappointed.
Just try not to look conspicuous or guilty of anything when you're out and about.
Rey KittyHawk
12-06-23, 12:17
I assume I'm on someone's camera just about everywhere. If it is out in public, or on private property that doesn't bother me. Because what are you going to do, wear dark glasses, a hoodie, a hat and slink around like a ninja all the time?
I just don't want to be on camera doing anything that's naughty or untold. But if you're in this hobby, I think that is difficult considering anytime we enter a room we don't control, there can be a hidden camera.
So, say hi, wave, and smile for the camera. Cheese!
No matter where you go, FS AMP, Non FS AMP, Escort, Strip club, TJ, local taco shop, driving through town, driving on the highway, you are on someone's camera feed.
Thinking you are sly and careful to avoid cameras will only get you disappointed.
Just try not to look conspicuous or guilty of anything when you're out and about.
DrPornDawger
12-07-23, 15:24
No matter where you go, FS AMP, Non FS AMP, Escort, Strip club, TJ, local taco shop, driving through town, driving on the highway, you are on someone's camera feed.
Thinking you are sly and careful to avoid cameras will only get you disappointed.
Just try not to look conspicuous or guilty of anything when you're out and about.I look like I'm an amazon / ubereats delivery person wearing masks and sunglasses (covid you know).
DrPornDawger
12-15-23, 12:39
Are there any in San Diego?
https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=Vietnamese+Topless&find_loc=Orange+County%2 C+CA.
Are there any in San Diego?
https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=Vietnamese+Topless&find_loc=Orange+County%2 C+CA.Not anymore that I know of. There was Cafe 101 in College Area then they moved to Sorrento Mesa but closed before Covid. Not topless either, just bikinis or lingerie depending on the day.
https://x.com/5300dean/status/1730799589366624270?s=46
Anybody spot themselves? LOL.Interesting. Most appear to be a different demographic than I thought would be your typical monger. This hobby ain't cheap and I assumed it was mostly high tech or business types.
MaximusKahn
12-30-23, 13:44
I think Mongers are from all demographics. Just depends on how much you can afford to do it and maybe which way you do it.
Quantity, and quality play a role in this hobby too.
Interesting. Most appear to be a different demographic than I thought would be your typical monger. This hobby ain't cheap and I assumed it was mostly high tech or business types.
AeroStartC
12-31-23, 13:52
I think Mongers are from all demographics. Just depends on how much you can afford to do it and maybe which way you do it.
Quantity, and quality play a role in this hobby too.Quote from a former bartender in a well known strip club: "No matter how broke or down and out a guy is, he will always have enough money for booze, women, and cigarettes."
Has anyone used the Telegram app for any kind of hookups? I recently downloaded the app and there are dozens of ladies of ladies in the "people nearby" section. Most of the pics are clearly fake. But some look legit. But so far every person but one that I've messaged has been a deposit scam. The one who wasn't isn't a pro at all.
But It's funny because the one's who are scammers have a location that shows them to be close and they usually say something like "I live on XYZ street" which is actually in the area, but then they say to pay a deposit to get the actual address. No chance!
I'm just wondering if anyone has any positive experiences finding fun on there or if it's 100% scammers.
I think Mongers are from all demographics. Just depends on how much you can afford to do it and maybe which way you do it.
Quantity, and quality play a role in this hobby too.I suppose the escort is super cheap and not attractive LOL.
MaximusKahn
01-03-24, 10:56
If Prostitution is considered the oldest profession, then Mongering has to be the oldest hobby.
Has anyone used the Telegram app for any kind of hookups? I recently downloaded the app and there are dozens of ladies of ladies in the "people nearby" section. Most of the pics are clearly fake. But some look legit. But so far every person but one that I've messaged has been a deposit scam. The one who wasn't isn't a pro at all.
But It's funny because the one's who are scammers have a location that shows them to be close and they usually say something like "I live on XYZ street" which is actually in the area, but then they say to pay a deposit to get the actual address. No chance!
I'm just wondering if anyone has any positive experiences finding fun on there or if it's 100% scammers.Only encountered scammers myself. Usually with odd English grammar.
DrPornDawger
01-03-24, 14:55
If Prostitution is considered the oldest profession, then Mongering has to be the oldest hobby.Peddlers (especially fish merchants) have been called mongers for more than 1000 years. The term traces to a Latin noun meaning "trader. " Initially, it was an honorable term, but every profession has its bad apples, and the snake-oil salesmen of the bunch gave monger a bad reputation. By the middle of the 16th century, the term often implied that a merchant was dishonorable and contemptible. Nowadays, monger is typically appended to another word to identify a trader of a particular type. Some combinations (such as fishmonger) suggest respectable commerce, whereas others (such as rumormonger, scandalmonger, and hypemonger) imply that a person is trading or spreading information in a careless or deceptive manner.
Word History.
Etymology.
Noun.
Middle English mongere, from Old English mangere, from Latin mangon-, mango, of Greek origin; akin to Greek manganon charm, philter.
First Known Use.
Noun.
Before the 12th century, in the meaning defined at sense 1.
Verb.
Circa 1864, in the meaning defined above.
Time Traveler.
The first known use of monger was before the 12th century.
Only encountered scammers myself. Usually with odd English grammar.LOL. That's so true! The lack of a grasp of the English language is as much of a dead giveaway as some of these blatantly fake pics. I get a kick out of the deposit scam routine though. Every damn time they like to explain that they require a deposit for "their safety". How exactly does someone sending money make you more safe? Haha.
Any members have lead of Smog shops that would "work" with you to pass the smog for a 2012 car?
A relative of mine wants me to help out on a car for repair, financially of course. I really don't want to. I don't mind paying more, a lot more for a smog, as long as it passes. Thanks in advance.
Are there any in San Diego?
https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=Vietnamese+Topless&find_loc=Orange+County%2 C+CA.
We used to, not anymore. I created a thread way before COVID here in the SD Forum, check it out - http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?11280-Vietnamese-Bikini-Coffee-Shops
Rx Meds vs Performance.
I'm just throwing this out there as something to think about it if you encounter a similar situation. For some years I've experienced problems getting over the finish line. Great BBBJ, BBFS, with some great partners.
This was over course, frustrating, embarrassing, and a real disservice to my partners. I thought maybe it's just age, etc, maybe my glory days in the hobby are over, I just didn't want to give up.
So then, unrelatedly, I got switched to a new doctor by my medical insurer. Part of the change over was a review of prescription meds. The only thing I was still taking was minimal Paxil for a long ago episode of depression. So I decided to quit taking it and there was no side effects.
I then started to have a whole new lease on life, the good times were back! I never connected this small dosage with side effects but there it was. Doctors seem to be very reluctant to ever stop drugs once they are prescribed.
So that's my tale, I'm working hard to catch up on what I missed.
NewNumber2
02-08-24, 01:04
Rx Meds vs Performance.Has anyone experienced similar problems with taking Flomax?
Has anyone experienced similar problems with taking Flomax?Not with performance, per se. But Flomax can give you orgasms without ejactulate. Which can be odd, but also a lot less messy.
Rx Meds vs Performance.
I'm just throwing this out there as something to think about it if you encounter a similar situation. For some years I've experienced problems getting over the finish line. Great BBBJ, BBFS, with some great partners.
This was over course, frustrating, embarrassing, and a real disservice to my partners. I thought maybe it's just age, etc, maybe my glory days in the hobby are over, I just didn't want to give up.
So then, unrelatedly, I got switched to a new doctor by my medical insurer. Part of the change over was a review of prescription meds. The only thing I was still taking was minimal Paxil for a long ago episode of depression. So I decided to quit taking it and there was no side effects.
I then started to have a whole new lease on life, the good times were back! I never connected this small dosage with side effects but there it was. Doctors seem to be very reluctant to ever stop drugs once they are prescribed.
So that's my tale, I'm working hard to catch up on what I missed.Most of the meds for premature ejaculation are antidepressants so that makes sense.
LipLover 88
02-09-24, 06:25
Rx Meds vs Performance.
I'm just throwing this out there as something to think about it if you encounter a similar situation. For some years I've experienced problems getting over the finish line. Great BBBJ, BBFS, with some great partners.
This was over course, frustrating, embarrassing, and a real disservice to my partners. I thought maybe it's just age, etc, maybe my glory days in the hobby are over, I just didn't want to give up.
So then, unrelatedly, I got switched to a new doctor by my medical insurer. Part of the change over was a review of prescription meds. The only thing I was still taking was minimal Paxil for a long ago episode of depression. So I decided to quit taking it and there was no side effects.
I then started to have a whole new lease on life, the good times were back! I never connected this small dosage with side effects but there it was. Doctors seem to be very reluctant to ever stop drugs once they are prescribed.
So that's my tale, I'm working hard to catch up on what I missed.I also took Paxil quite a few years ago when I was married and it affected my sex life. It is known for that. I stopped taking it just don't stop immediately right off the bat wing yourself off.
Any members have lead of Smog shops that would "work" with you to pass the smog for a 2012 car?
A relative of mine wants me to help out on a car for repair, financially of course. I really don't want to. I don't mind paying more, a lot more for a smog, as long as it passes. Thanks in advance.
We used to, not anymore. I created a thread way before COVID here in the SD Forum, check it out - http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?11280-Vietnamese-Bikini-Coffee-ShopsLast time I was at the smog shop, they have discontinued the tailpipe emissions testing, meaning, all they now do is plug into the OBDII port and read the computer. Not sure if that is all vehicles, but if so, passing that kind of smog is going to be very difficult to cheat, unless one has a OBDII simulator.
The smog machines, read the VIN directly from the vehicles computer.
Sadddkdwwws
02-09-24, 16:26
Last time I was at the smog shop, they have discontinued the tailpipe emissions testing, meaning, all they now do is plug into the OBDII port and read the computer. Not sure if that is all vehicles, but if so, passing that kind of smog is going to be very difficult to cheat, unless one has a OBDII simulator.
The smog machines, read the VIN directly from the vehicles computer.Can't help you bro on your request but wanted to share a funny / sad story. Last time I went to get my car smogged and it came time to pay there was a prompt to leave a tip. I couldn't believe it. For a smog shop. So I asked the guy about it and goes "you don't have to leave a tip". Which I did not. Tipping culture. Got to love it. When does McDonalds add the tip feature on their POS system?
ArtVandalayy
02-09-24, 18:51
Any members have lead of Smog shops that would "work" with you to pass the smog for a 2012 car?
A relative of mine wants me to help out on a car for repair, financially of course. I really don't want to. I don't mind paying more, a lot more for a smog, as long as it passes. Thanks in advance.
We used to, not anymore. I created a thread way before COVID here in the SD Forum, check it out - http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?11280-Vietnamese-Bikini-Coffee-ShopsYeah, I got you. I know three people who do it prices vary from 150-450.350-450 seemed to be the average when I was looking a couple months ago. Send me a DM and I'll hook you up. Just a heads up none of the ones I know are in San Diego, you'd have to drive to OC or the IE.
RChangDatyKing
02-10-24, 15:17
Happy Chinese New Year 2024, ladies and gentlemen! Go say hello to your favorite Chinese ladies today and the next couple of weeks.
I believed Vietnamese people also celebrate their new year this same time so wish your favorite Vietnamese ladies happy new year as well.
Be safe!
NewNumber2
02-11-24, 03:54
Not with performance, per se. But Flomax can give you orgasms without ejactulate. Which can be odd, but also a lot less messy.Yes, that's the issue, not getting anything coming out. Don't like it!
I also took Paxil quite a few years ago when I was married and it affected my sex life. It is known for that. I stopped taking it just don't stop immediately right off the bat wing yourself off.Sudafed. The one behind the counter affects me.
Took me awhile to put it together why my every allergy season my performance was horrible.
Yes, that's the issue, not getting anything coming out. Don't like it!I've had low volume leche for a few years now. At some point in the aging process I guess my testicles stopped making as much as when I was younger. I used to be able to wank it 2-3 times a day and still have enough in the tank to finish sex. Nowadays if I jerk off even once I have nothing in the tank the rest of the day. I haven't been able to double pop / msog for a couple of years now.
MaximusKahn
02-15-24, 11:25
There are guys who only come to these forums to get facts about what to get, where to get it, who provides it and how much it costs. And they like all the stats and details on the girls too.
I also like the information exchange about other aspects of mongering, and find many posts useful. Some are very interesting and informative about things I'm not familiar with. I appreciate the guys who share the personal stuff that normally would not cross my mind. Good advice is, good advice, no matter where you get it.
The humor in these forums can be enjoyable too. I enjoy a good laugh as much as the next guy.
And I admit, I enjoy the "exchanges" between mongers. Everyone has to look at a train wreck, I'm no exception.
I compliment all those who post, and USA sex guide for providing this space. I appreciate you.
Has anyone tried, or currently undergoing, Testosterone Replacement Therapy? I'm sure there's a few mongers on here with some pharmacology expertise who can answer this, or someone currently on T can answer. If you inject T and if you workout you will have the physique of a man in his mid-late 20's, but my understanding from a sexual perspective is that the injection would signal to the testicles that your body has enough T and your nuts will stop making it naturally, hence the side effect of low volume sperm. Any thoughts? Any expertise? I would love the physique of a man in his 20's but don't want my balls to shrink and shut down production.
Canuck6234
02-16-24, 01:35
Has anyone tried, or currently undergoing, Testosterone Replacement Therapy? I'm sure there's a few mongers on here with some pharmacology expertise who can answer this, or someone currently on T can answer. If you inject T and if you workout you will have the physique of a man in his mid-late 20's, but my understanding from a sexual perspective is that the injection would signal to the testicles that your body has enough T and your nuts will stop making it naturally, hence the side effect of low volume sperm. Any thoughts? Any expertise? I would love the physique of a man in his 20's but don't want my balls to shrink and shut down production.Grasshopper, be very careful about testosterone therapy. T replacement and augumentation can affect the prostrate. If you have any cancerous tissue at all in the prostrate (and many of us do, even if we have no symptoms yet) the elevated T levels can cause the cancer to grow more rapidly. This is domething to keep in mind and explore fully with your medical professional before begining any testosterone treatment.
Has anyone tried, or currently undergoing, Testosterone Replacement Therapy? I'm sure there's a few mongers on here with some pharmacology expertise who can answer this, or someone currently on T can answer. If you inject T and if you workout you will have the physique of a man in his mid-late 20's, but my understanding from a sexual perspective is that the injection would signal to the testicles that your body has enough T and your nuts will stop making it naturally, hence the side effect of low volume sperm. Any thoughts? Any expertise? I would love the physique of a man in his 20's but don't want my balls to shrink and shut down production.I did TRT & hCG in my 40's. I was always a gym rat but was the biggest and strongest I had ever been in my life. Although, not as lean as I was in my 20's. Diet and genetics are 80% of how lean and muscular you will look. I did have side effects like acne and mild gyno. The gyno is still there today 10 years later. The clinic prescribed me antibiotics to clear up the acne and an aromatase inhibitor to stop the gyno. In the bedroom, I had no problems at all with the always horny girlfriend I had at the time. I stopped after less than a year because my blood pressure got super high, I'd get headaches from the high BP and my hematocrit got above 50%. I made sure I tapered off TRT and still took hCG until I was done and suffered no sexual side effects.
Jaguar300ZX
02-23-24, 14:54
I've had low volume leche for a few years now. At some point in the aging process I guess my testicles stopped making as much as when I was younger. I used to be able to wank it 2-3 times a day and still have enough in the tank to finish sex. Nowadays if I jerk off even once I have nothing in the tank the rest of the day. I haven't been able to double pop / msog for a couple of years now.Here is the solution.
1. Stop Smoking (that include Marijuana).
2. Drink more Water, (and decrease your Coffee and Alcohol consumption since they both lead to dehydration).
3. Take a daily Multi-Vitamin that's high in Zinc and Manganese (Men need more of these Minerals, Women need more Iron).
(Zinc happens to be the single most important mineral when it comes to semen production).
4. Do exercises for the lower body to increase Blood Flow, like; Walking, Squats, and Lunges.
5. Abstain from daily masturbation, (Edging is OK, but don't Ejaculate).
6. Masturbate into a condom about once a week to measure your Semen output.
(The normal volume of ejaculate after 7-days of abstinence is usually about 4. 0-6. 0 mL.).
7. Eat less processed foods (because they're too High in Salt, Saturated Fat, and Refined Sugars).
8. Eat more Raw Fruits, Veggies, and 100% Real Honey (High in Fiber, Antioxidants, and Natural Sugars).
9. Yes, certain doctor prescribed Medications can factor into Semen production, and that conversation is too complex to discuss in this post.
-but if you can get off your Med's for a while (at least 1-Month) then your body will naturally re-adjust.
Important Note* Eat Raw Celery!!
Famous male Pornstar 'Peter North' (AKA "The Beercan") swore by eating Raw Celery as his secret weapon.
And although there's no clinical research (yet) to support this assertion, most men find that eating raw celery does actually boost their semen volume.
If you can do all of the above for just 1-month. I guarantee you will be throwing ropes like a rocket launcher.
MaximusKahn
02-28-24, 12:16
Your report and advice are excellent!
Although it is about semen production and volume, nothing has been mentioned about erection or orgasm.
If you can get good hard-on and achieve an orgasm, I'd not be worried about semen quantity. But, if you can't get hard or once hard can't orgasm there are other considerations.
I do eat a lot of raw celery just because I like it. And the rumor is, if you want your semen to taste better for the women, drink plenty of pineapple juice before you give her a taste.
Here is the solution.
1. Stop Smoking (that include Marijuana).
2. Drink more Water, (and decrease your Coffee and Alcohol consumption since they both lead to dehydration).
3. Take a daily Multi-Vitamin that's high in Zinc and Manganese (Men need more of these Minerals, Women need more Iron).
(Zinc happens to be the single most important mineral when it comes to semen production).
4. Do exercises for the lower body to increase Blood Flow, like; Walking, Squats, and Lunges.
5. Abstain from daily masturbation, (Edging is OK, but don't Ejaculate).
6. Masturbate into a condom about once a week to measure your Semen output.
(The normal volume of ejaculate after 7-days of abstinence is usually about 4. 0-6. 0 mL.).
7. Eat less processed foods (because they're too High in Salt, Saturated Fat, and Refined Sugars).
8. Eat more Raw Fruits, Veggies, and 100% Real Honey (High in Fiber, Antioxidants, and Natural Sugars).
9. Yes, certain doctor prescribed Medications can factor into Semen production, and that conversation is too complex to discuss in this post.
-but if you can get off your Med's for a while (at least 1-Month) then your body will naturally re-adjust.
Important Note* Eat Raw Celery!!
Famous male Pornstar 'Peter North' (AKA "The Beercan") swore by eating Raw Celery as his secret weapon.
And although there's no clinical research (yet) to support this assertion, most men find that eating raw celery does actually boost their semen volume.
If you can do all of the above for just 1-month. I guarantee you will be throwing ropes like a rocket launcher.
DrPornDawger
02-28-24, 14:34
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/ejaculation-and-prostate-health
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0302283818303531
Abstract.
In a prospective study of 31 925 men with 18 yr of follow-up, higher ejaculation frequency (EF) throughout adulthood was associated with lower rates of prostate cancer. To further explore this association, we evaluated whole transcriptome gene expression in the prostate tissue from study participants who developed prostate cancer between 1992 and 2004 (n = 157 tumor tissue, and = 85 adjacent normal). We tested for trends in gene expression according to the level of EF as self-reported in 1992 for ages 20–29 yr, 40–49 yr, and the year prior to the questionnaire, 1991. There were no associations between EF and gene expression in areas of tumor after accounting for multiple testing. In contrast, in the adjacent normal tissue, 409 genes and six pathways were differentially expressed at a false discovery rate ≤0. 2 across categories of EF in 1991. These results suggest that ejaculation affects the expression of genes in the normal prostate tissue. The identified genes and pathways provide potential biological links between EF and prostate tumorigenesis.
Patient summary.
To explore previous findings that men who ejaculate more frequently have lower risk of prostate cancer, we evaluated molecular alterations in the prostate tissue according to each man's frequency of ejaculation prior to diagnosis. We identified biological processes that could link ejaculation frequency and prostate cancer.
MaximusKahn
03-12-24, 08:57
I don't remember what thread it was, but we were writing about making sure you are discrete about your UTR action, and I forgot to mention another point.
If you regularly go for a full hour session, don't change that pattern.
I had a great UTR Woman who I seduced up to FS, and our sessions were always a full hour. That was massage time and fun time, and we were regular.
One day I was short on time and texted her that I could only stop in for a half hour. Of course I'm figuring on a FS QV, forgoing the massage part and she said no. It had to be the full hour because all the girls think if it is a half hour it's just sex, and a half hour would look suspicious. She wouldn't do a half hour with me because we were always the full hour. So of course, I bowed to her logic, and made a full hour with her the following day. Truthfully, having a full hour with my UTRs is always my preferred way to enjoy the hobby anyway.
Lesson learned, keep to your same pattern, if you do an hour, always do an hour. Just one more suggestion to enjoy your UTR woman even more.
I'm starting to have a problem, I think. I used to stay hard while having sex with no problem, I would have sex in many positions over all sex would last maybe from one hour to an hour and half, now I'm getting soft while having sex and it's kinda worrying me. Have any of you guys have had this experience, do any sex pill help?
TheSaint62
03-19-24, 18:55
I'm starting to have a problem, I think. I used to stay hard while having sex with no problem, I would have sex in many positions over all sex would last maybe from one hour to an hour and half, now I'm getting soft while having sex and it's kinda worrying me. Have any of you guys have had this experience, do any sex pill help?Viagra or Cialas from an online "Dr". Or the Platinum Rhino pills at your local liquor store. The liquor store pills last up to a week for me. I only used it once because I went on a 4 day bender in the P. I. LOL. I don't usually need it as I am a 1 pop guy and don't usually spend more that 20-30 minutes bashing guts.
RolfTorren
03-19-24, 20:17
I started having that challenge about 10 years ago. In FS I would gonsoft in the rubber. FBSM was ok with lots of teasing and buildup as was BBBJ. So about 5 years ago I said fuck it, and spoke to my doctor. He put me on generic Viagra. And so far its been a game changer.
I'm starting to have a problem, I think. I used to stay hard while having sex with no problem, I would have sex in many positions over all sex would last maybe from one hour to an hour and half, now I'm getting soft while having sex and it's kinda worrying me. Have any of you guys have had this experience, do any sex pill help?
I started having that challenge about 10 years ago. In FS I would gonsoft in the rubber. FBSM was ok with lots of teasing and buildup as was BBBJ. So about 5 years ago I said fuck it, and spoke to my doctor. He put me on generic Viagra. And so far its been a game changer.Do you guys think exercise works as well? Have any one of you guys tried the royal honey?
I started having that challenge about 10 years ago. In FS I would gonsoft in the rubber. FBSM was ok with lots of teasing and buildup as was BBBJ. So about 5 years ago I said fuck it, and spoke to my doctor. He put me on generic Viagra. And so far its been a game changer.I always see Booker T mention BlueChew.
RolfTorren
03-26-24, 22:31
I'm sure exercise can help. There are tons of links on Instagram about ED, kegal exercises for guys, growing inches, etc.
Most lead to BS YouTube videos. I think its a complex issue. I don't have any major health issues, but they say losing the ability to stay hard can be a sign of other issues. Ita worth reading about and adopting multiple approaches to the problem.
Do you guys think exercise works as well? Have any one of you guys tried the royal honey?
TheMassageKing
03-27-24, 16:03
Do you guys think exercise works as well? Have any one of you guys tried the royal honey?I have tried the royal honey multiple times. The first time I bought it off a website and came in the mail within a week. I swear by that shit it's amazing you are rock solid and last almost twice as long as you would normally. What I like about it is that it's not like a take it and get instantly rock hard. When you take it you will only feel it when you get horny and you'll notice it takes longer for you to get soft and the erections are much more blood flowing than normal. It also works for like 3-4 days after you originally took it. So you don't have to keep taking it every time. When I originally got it worked like a charm but now I'm not sure if the formula changed or what happened cause it doesn't seem to work as before maybe it's from tolerance to it. One of the major downsides of it is you get some horrendous heart burn. I'm not a big fan of that feeling especially at night but I will admit it's pretty bad especially when you're trying to get some sleep haven't tried taking tums or anything so it might be a easy fix. I have had almost every sexual enhancement that's available. Blue chew is cool cause you don't get the side effects and stuff but you have to take it every time and the royal honey is like a once every 3-4 days. One of the ones I have tried and really liked was a mouth spray I forget the brand but it's a local brand from SD you take the spray my mouth 2 sprays and it would make you last easily like an hour and a half basically as if you were drunk. Beware if you have heart issues or high blood pressure take royal honey in very small amounts to see how you feel since it's essentially not fda approved and stuff. Also there is a lot of counterfeit royal VIP honey there is a couple of videos on YouTube that can help you spot the difference there is also numerous amounts of brands for example black bull, ETUMAX (black and grey packg.). I recommend the royal honey VIP with the VIP on the right hand corner and the honey comb along package. Stay away from rhino pills those are dog shit and give you crazy headaches. Another thing you can find it a liquor stores or smoke shops for about 15-20 a piece but if you want to save some money buy a 12 pack online for like 30 $ just make sure the website is legit a lot of Chinese knockoffs. PM me if y'all got any questions I have tried dame near everything available. Good luck to y'all and stay safe.
Do any of you guys know where there is like real porn and not that fake stuff from Hollywood. Like when you guys film do you upload your stuff to a certain website. I always look up Tijuana hooker porn and never find any or San Diego escort porn and never find any real stuff?
Exercise can definitely help especially if you're new to it. Leg workouts are known to boost testosterone levels and I always get crazy boners after working legs. But also, everyone is very different when it comes to these type of things. For instance, in recent years I found out I have a huge mental blockage when it comes to getting it up and staying hard. A lot of it may come from the porn addiction that started in childhood. This further exacerbated with mongering for a solid 10 or so years. Now I can't even have a normal Sex life with my civvy gf cause my mind misses the times when I would be high as fuck off of coke / weed / ecstasy etc and facefucking 10/10 Latinas or whatever ethnicity of woman I was craving for the week LOL. I'm still fairly young too and I'm trying to figure out a way out of this. It amazes me how some of y’all can cheat on your partners rather easily. I get major anxiety when I do LOL and I can't even really enjoy the sessions as much as before. Sometimes I get jealous of some of you who monger and have gf's / wives so effortlessly. But I digress, I probably just care too much and really miss the old care free rockstar days. Thanks for hearing me vent.
Do you guys think exercise works as well? Have any one of you guys tried the royal honey?
DoctorOlds
03-29-24, 10:00
Do any of you guys know where there is like real porn and not that fake stuff from Hollywood. Like when you guys film do you upload your stuff to a certain website. I always look up Tijuana hooker porn and never find any or San Diego escort porn and never find any real stuff?I recently saw documentary of sorts about THAT site. It has been totally rebranded and you will / should not see any of the stuff you once did. It is ALL scripted, or at least app participants know they're on that site. I know what vids you're looking for and they no longer exist. The site requires signed waivers from everyone in the act. I think you might still be able to find the documentary on Tubi or one of those other free streaming channels.
DrPornDawger
03-29-24, 16:11
I recently saw documentary of sorts about THAT site. It has been totally rebranded and you will / should not see any of the stuff you once did. It is ALL scripted, or at least app participants know they're on that site. I know what vids you're looking for and they no longer exist. The site requires signed waivers from everyone in the act. I think you might still be able to find the documentary on Tubi or one of those other free streaming channels.https://decider.com/2023/03/24/best-documentaries-about-adult-film/#.
I've see After Porn Ends, tragic with some people go through, Nina Hartley, damn, I'd like to some GILF.
DoctorOlds
03-29-24, 18:40
https://decider.com/2023/03/24/best-documentaries-about-adult-film/#.
I've see After Porn Ends, tragic with some people go through, Nina Hartley, damn, I'd like to some GILF.It was specifically about the HUB. Possibly "money shot: the porn hub story.
Is Royal Honey similar to Viagra??
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/medication-health-fraud/public-notification-kingdom-honey-royal-honey-vip-contains-hidden-drug-ingredient
I have tried the royal honey multiple times. The first time I bought it off a website and came in the mail within a week. I swear by that shit it's amazing you are rock solid and last almost twice as long as you would normally. What I like about it is that it's not like a take it and get instantly rock hard. When you take it you will only feel it when you get horny and you'll notice it takes longer for you to get soft and the erections are much more blood flowing than normal. It also works for like 3-4 days after you originally took it. So you don't have to keep taking it every time. When I originally got it worked like a charm but now I'm not sure if the formula changed or what happened cause it doesn't seem to work as before maybe it's from tolerance to it. One of the major downsides of it is you get some horrendous heart burn. I'm not a big fan of that feeling especially at night but I will admit it's pretty bad especially when you're trying to get some sleep haven't tried taking tums or anything so it might be a easy fix. I have had almost every sexual enhancement that's available. Blue chew is cool cause you don't get the side effects and stuff but you have to take it every time and the royal honey is like a once every 3-4 days. One of the ones I have tried and really liked was a mouth spray I forget the brand but it's a local brand from SD you take the spray my mouth 2 sprays and it would make you last easily like an hour and a half basically as if you were drunk. Beware if you have heart issues or high blood pressure take royal honey in very small amounts to see how you feel since it's essentially not fda approved and stuff. Also there is a lot of counterfeit royal VIP honey there is a couple of videos on YouTube that can help you spot the difference there is also numerous amounts of brands for example black bull, ETUMAX (black and grey packg.). I recommend the royal honey VIP with the VIP on the right hand corner and the honey comb along package. Stay away from rhino pills those are dog shit and give you crazy headaches. Another thing you can find it a liquor stores or smoke shops for about 15-20 a piece but if you want to save some money buy a 12 pack online for like 30 $ just make sure the website is legit a lot of Chinese knockoffs. PM me if y'all got any questions I have tried dame near everything available. Good luck to y'all and stay safe.
DrPornDawger
04-08-24, 12:55
https://youtube.com/shorts/DFUc57z0hEs?si=9Suh7mj6GeX9SE23
https://m.tnaflix.com/amateur-porn/YouTuber-Raina-Huang/video7551685
Blue Gecko
04-08-24, 13:49
https://youtube.com/shorts/DFUc57z0hEs?si=9Suh7mj6GeX9SE23
https://m.tnaflix.com/amateur-porn/YouTuber-Raina-Huang/video7551685Oh damn that's really her! I wish the same LOL. Anymore vids you found?
TheMassageKing
04-08-24, 13:58
Is Royal Honey similar to Viagra??
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/medication-health-fraud/public-notification-kingdom-honey-royal-honey-vip-contains-hidden-drug-ingredientIt's pretty much Viagra but in honey form I guess. Can definitely be really risky cause you don't really know what they put in it unless you run some fancy test on it. I have never tried Viagra so idk how it works but the honey doesn't get you instantly hard right after taking it. It kind of lingers in your system and only really comes into effect when you're aroused or about to get busy with the ladies. Gets the job done just don't over use it might end up with a limp.
MaximusKahn
04-09-24, 10:23
If one of your girls is letting a session go a little long try real hard not to yell at them through the door.
I was with one of my special regulars and as the spa was not busy she was letting our fun go over time by just a little.
All of a sudden the Mama San was yelling something through the door. Although I have no idea what she actually said, but it was pretty obvious it was something like, You are taking too long, hurry up and finish!
My provider, who was pinned down in missionary, turned her head and yelled back. Probably something like, stop bothering me we're almost done.
What a fucking kill joy. We finished shortly after that but the yelling was unnecessary. And being a regular pissed me off.
MamaSan, if your shop is not busy, and nobody is waiting, then let your girls reward a regular with a few extra free minute of fun. It might help your business, by making a regular feel he's special.
SukijoSeiwaka
04-10-24, 03:24
https://youtube.com/shorts/DFUc57z0hEs?si=9Suh7mj6GeX9SE23
https://m.tnaflix.com/amateur-porn/YouTuber-Raina-Huang/video7551685How would I make this happen?
Rey KittyHawk
04-10-24, 10:49
https://youtube.com/shorts/DFUc57z0hEs?si=9Suh7mj6GeX9SE23
https://m.tnaflix.com/amateur-porn/YouTuber-Raina-Huang/video7551685Good fun, but I really like how cute and innocent the asian women were as she deep throat's a 12 inch dog.
DrPornDawger
04-10-24, 11:30
https://www.pictoa.com/albums/raina-huang-nude-4057213.html
Somehow I'm logged out of LC and need to login again to sss the reviews. But my saved passwords list has just my email not my "rogue name" - anyone know how to find what that is?
Alternatively could someone look at Erika's reviews and tell me the handle that starts with Brit? https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/167943315.
Thanks!
Somehow I'm logged out of LC and need to login again to sss the reviews. But my saved passwords list has just my email not my "rogue name" - anyone know how to find what that is?
Alternatively could someone look at Erika's reviews and tell me the handle that starts with Brit? https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/167943315.
Thanks!Sandiegobrit.
Sandiegobrit.Well that explains why I couldn't guess it. Thanks!
DrPornDawger
04-11-24, 09:35
There's plenty of escort services on X. Has anyone got some recommendations?
Canuck6234
04-12-24, 00:42
If one of your girls is letting a session go a little long try real hard not to yell at them through the door.
I was with one of my special regulars and as the spa was not busy she was letting our fun go over time by just a little.
All of a sudden the Mama San was yelling something through the door. Although I have no idea what she actually said, but it was pretty obvious it was something like, You are taking too long, hurry up and finish!
My provider, who was pinned down in missionary, turned her head and yelled back. Probably something like, stop bothering me we're almost done.
What a fucking kill joy. We finished shortly after that but the yelling was unnecessary. And being a regular pissed me off.
MamaSan, if your shop is not busy, and nobody is waiting, then let your girls reward a regular with a few extra free minute of fun. It might help your business, by making a regular feel he's special.I absolutely hate this. At my go to spots I will occasionaly bribe Mama with a small tip and say, "I know how hard you work. " (I often need to use a translate app to communicate) Sometimes I bring a small gift for her or share some fresh fish fillets.
No banging on the door or yelling to hurry.
I absolutely hate this. At my go to spots I will occasionaly bribe Mama with a small tip and say, "I know how hard you work. " (I often need to use a translate app to communicate) Sometimes I bring a small gift for her or share some fresh fish fillets.
No banging on the door or yelling to hurry.I have started getting up mid session and opening the door a little bit saying "Its hot in here", then when Mama comes by and peeks in the door and sees her on her back with her legs in the air and me pounding away they know to give it a little while.
Sometimes I catch Mama peeking and give them a smile and a wink.
https://www.pictoa.com/albums/raina-huang-nude-4057213.htmlDamn.
I've seen her on Instagram doing those crazy eating challenges.
Didn't know she did porn.
KingHornySD
04-13-24, 14:04
There's plenty of escort services on X. Has anyone got some recommendations?From what I've seen most of those are these online scammers who are impersonating chicks. They demand you give them deposits for their safety which is when I just disengage. Been fiending for some of them but like I said, FAKE. Let me know if you find some legit ones.
Roger Eggin
04-15-24, 15:20
Oh damn that's really her! I wish the same LOL. Anymore vids you found?Your mailbox is full so you can't receive DMs.
Blue Gecko
04-15-24, 16:45
Your mailbox is full so you can't receive DMs.My bad! Hopefully fixed now.
MaximusKahn
04-16-24, 11:22
As I've mentioned many times my Mongering is more to 1 hr long sessions with a great massage and my efforts to seduce a regular AMP provider to secretly advance to Full Service.
Because this usually develops over time, a connection is made and can get deeper as you visit more and more. Soon you get to full service with your visits and everything gets better and better.
Then one day after your session you get the usual post text, of "come see me again soon" but this time she ends it with "I love you".
Ut-Oh!
I have posted of the dangers of falling in love with a provider, but there is also a danger if your favorite falls in love with you. I got very connected to a provider in the past and her leaving was quite painful. I'm very sure I'm not Mongering for love.
You Casanovas out there, watch out for cupid.
DrPornDawger
04-16-24, 12:16
Nice to have mistresses, will she still let you see the other ladies?
One I had told me to try out the other ladies, and now she won't text me at all. ;.
Do they talk to one another about us?
As I've mentioned many times my Mongering is more to 1 hr long sessions with a great massage and my efforts to seduce a regular AMP provider to secretly advance to Full Service.
Because this usually develops over time, a connection is made and can get deeper as you visit more and more. Soon you get to full service with your visits and everything gets better and better.
Then one day after your session you get the usual post text, of "come see me again soon" but this time she ends it with "I love you".
Ut-Oh!
I have posted of the dangers of falling in love with a provider, but there is also a danger if your favorite falls in love with you. I got very connected to a provider in the past and her leaving was quite painful. I'm very sure I'm not Mongering for love.
You Casanovas out there, watch out for cupid.
MaximusKahn
04-17-24, 09:42
Hey Dr. I always enjoy your posts, keep up the good work.
As for my UTR favorite who texted she "loves me". I'm definitely into making a connection, and even having some passion in my sessions, sometimes intimacy, maybe even some kinky perversions, but I'm not interested in anything deeper from this hobby.
Emotional connections are what gets you UTR FS fun, but there is a limit. For me it should stop at "I really like you. " Or maybe something more lustful, like "I can't wait to fuck you. ".
She, regardless of what she may think, has no power to influence if I see other women.
Usually, once I make a connection at a spa I almost never see another woman from that same spa so in a sense I want her to feel that she is special as my preferred provider there. I also never discuss mongering or other spas, but I'm sure she assumes I enjoy other options, which I do. I have a rotation like most of you do too. Besides it is good for our providers to know we have other options (competition), it helps them appreciate our business. Even the ones we have close connections with and have secrets with them.
All that said. I'm still going to enjoy her, but I'm going to stretch the time between visits. And this is part of my normal process anyway. To build the relationship, I'll see them regularly. To strengthen and to get control of it I'll see her less and less, but I'll keep showing up right when she starts to worry she may never see me again. She will fear I found someone better that I like more. When you do come back they are happy to see you and the fun is great because they want you to come back again knowing you could easily disappear forever.
For the majority of us, all this mongering is a temporary connection with our providers, and our provider know this too. When non-full service providers get seduced to FS with you, you can tell that they are always hoping there is more to it than just sex. And when you share tender passionate intimate moments, even in a professional setting, it's too easy for someone to fall in love.
You also have to consider that women would love to have a sugar daddy take care of them, especially the older providers facing less clients or retirement. So their search for one becomes more intense.
No mater how close I get to them, or how great the connection, I'm still mongering with a no strings attached method of operation.
Thanks for reading this rambling.
Dr. I'll look forward to your next post.
Nice to have mistresses, will she still let you see the other ladies?
One I had told me to try out the other ladies, and now she won't text me at all. ;.
Do they talk to one another about us?
I must finally be getting old as I'm not keeping up with the internet kids anymore. Can anyone fill me in on what a content bf is, I see a couple of SD ladies on twitter looking for content bfs. Its 150 a month "3 dates a day" so I presume it's some online thing, no way is anyone letting me smash for that.
I must finally be getting old as I'm not keeping up with the internet kids anymore. Can anyone fill me in on what a content bf is, I see a couple of SD ladies on twitter looking for content bfs. Its 150 a month "3 dates a day" so I presume it's some online thing, no way is anyone letting me smash for that.For an OF girl, it would be someone to make sex videos with to sell. You then get a small cut.
Outside of OF, no idea but it could be similar. I can't imagine there is much money to make making random (I assume non-sexual) videos with random guys. Whereas with OF and porn, there is at least a little money to be made.
For an OF girl, it would be someone to make sex videos with to sell. You then get a small cut.
.That's what I thought, but it's 150 a month and says "3 one hour sessions per day for a month". I asked and got no reply (so far anyway).
That's what I thought, but it's 150 a month and says "3 one hour sessions per day for a month". I asked and got no reply (so far anyway).Did she say you'll also get paid "in exposure"? Social media girls are massive freeloaders, mostly failures. A homeless crack addict standing on the intersection holding a sign is more financially successful with his part-time hustle than 90% of of influencers. I'm not being sarcastic.
I used to go strip clubs a lot and would have the IG of a few dozen girls I knew. One was a big hit on OF, made decent money. All the others had 1-5 likes per post, which is less money than the grandma I see hauling 3 bags of plastic bottles. So like I said, they're better off holding up a sign on the intersection. Especially now that loitering is not a crime for..well dressed women.
I didn't see anything from admins, so sorry if I missed something, but did RChangDatyKing get banned? And what for? I thought he would be the last person to ever get banned, but I also don't know what happened. Was he shilling or something?
The little man wanted to challenge anyone who had a difference in opinion. He would get really aggressive when other hobbyists didn't agree with him. I doubt that he was banned but the Admin may have told him to quit starting arguments. The last banter he had was with Tacomava who told the little guy that he wasn't interested in banter. So the little man had to fire back several more times and his last post was removed by the admin.
Bottom line is I doubt that most of us really care if he ever comes back.
I didn't see anything from admins, so sorry if I missed something, but did RChangDatyKing get banned? And what for? I thought he would be the last person to ever get banned, but I also don't know what happened. Was he shilling or something?
NudeBeachPerv
04-25-24, 23:22
I didn't see anything from admins, so sorry if I missed something, but did RChangDatyKing get banned? And what for? I thought he would be the last person to ever get banned, but I also don't know what happened. Was he shilling or something?I have no dog in this fight, let me repeat I have no dog in this fight. If you want to find if a member is active or not, just scroll down to their last available post and it will say Member, Sr. Member or Banned.
Ace McNasty
04-26-24, 10:41
I must finally be getting old as I'm not keeping up with the internet kids anymore. Can anyone fill me in on what a content bf is, I see a couple of SD ladies on twitter looking for content bfs. Its 150 a month "3 dates a day" so I presume it's some online thing, no way is anyone letting me smash for that.Content BF aka content fuck buddy or boyfriend. Your girl is just trying to keep her OF from getting stale in order to keep subscribers. They need to upload new stuff frequently or guys will not renew. I have done the content stuff with a few girls. Just short vids of BBBJ, DATY, and sex. Most of them are 30 seconds long, not like the girl uploading a full 45 minute porn. Example is this girl Rylee below. She used her phone to capture short segments of DATY and BBJ for her OF, then handed the phone to me so I can shoot short segments of fucking and fingering. The other examples below are Bonnie showing off her cocksucking skills, and Brooke who took a short vid of her mouf sucking my dick while I was doing 69 to her sweet, sweet pussy.
The little man wanted to challenge anyone who had a difference in opinion. He would get really aggressive when other hobbyists didn't agree with him. I doubt that he was banned but the Admin may have told him to quit starting arguments. The last banter he had was with Tacomava who told the little guy that he wasn't interested in banter. So the little man had to fire back several more times and his last post was removed by the admin.
Bottom line is I doubt that most of us really care if he ever comes back.Oh wow, I didn't realize he would do all that. I don't really check all the threads, but that makes sense as to why he would be banned. I just knew of the reviews he did seemed pretty legit, but I thought that maybe some of his reviews turned out to be fake somehow or something because I think that's what happened to a number of users in the massage palor thread who turned out to be shills.
I have no dog in this fight, let me repeat I have no dog in this fight. If you want to find if a member is active or not, just scroll down to their last available post and it will say Member, Sr. Member or Banned.Holy shit. That guy was a SD legend. I used a lot of his non-FS recs. I was actually going to ask about more of his music playlist. There was a post that had some good massage songs on it. LOL. Manny.
MaximusKahn
04-27-24, 10:52
Admin has a tough job keeping the posts focused on the theme of these threads and from what I've seen, and experienced, does a good job.
We all have to remember that Your Mileage May Vary, and even if you adore a provider, the next customer may not. This has to be accepted and should be respected.
It's also fair to disagree with someone, but as they say, don't be disagreeable. Should you need to get up under someone and push them into the wall, take it to the "stupid shit" thread and hash it out.
I've seen Admin be quite tolerant to a lot of shit flinging in the "Stupid Shit" thread. So take the shit there.
As for shilling. Anyone who is well known by the ladies and Mama-sans in these forums, in my opinion, can't really give true and honest posts all the time. If they are well known, they can only share positive posts because they will have to face consequences if they post something negative.
As that follows, the ladies will expect an avid poster they know, to protect them. And I would not be surprised if a well known avid poster who gives lavishly positive posts and steps up to protect the ladies was getting special rewards for his efforts. Free-bees, discounts, special privileges, or what ever, I suspect the rewards are worthwhile.
Anonymity I think adds to credibility.
DrPornDawger
04-27-24, 11:23
I know we have our time limits with our ladies. And some sessions have gone over (YMMV) and some have been lackluster and get thee fuck out. Without the foreplay. How long does the sex last with these high and even to low providers.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-long-does-sex-last
I recall my session where Spencer Thomas was tapping out and told me she would like me to finish. She already got hers.
DrPornDawger
04-27-24, 12:28
Some other sites moderate the same thing and others are lacks about it. Took an uprising from.
Members to ban him because he didn't have anything good to add to the conversation. Just a negative person. Members thought that the moderator knew him personally. For example he called people perverts, sex offenders, sex addicts, ass lickers. Putting down people who pay for sex when his posts contradicts his ramblings.
Now I rely on the reviews of our members and most of the information I take with a grain of salt which either leads me to new adventures. I enjoy reading the bare necessities of the BB crew. The AMPs are a little different since most of the pictures are photoshopped or a representation of the product.
Such like this example.
The images on this web site are provided to assist you in choosing a partner. These images are meant to be a representation only and are not intended to provide a perfect match to the actual person you will be seeing Women can vary significantly in color, texture, weight and height pattern. These qualities make each woman distinct and add to the beauty and warmth of the session. Not only do variations occur in real wood, but the multistep finishing process can also have an effect on the cabinet glazing, burnishing and highlighting. Because of this, we cannot guarantee the image you see will be an exact match to the finished product.
In addition, colors and image size may vary based upon your screen resolution and other computer settings outside of our control. The image may differ from the actual product due to reproduction limitations and limitations of viewing images at different resolutions, hue, brightness, contrast, and other screen variations.
Therefore, name of company. Shall not be held responsible for any variation between the images on this website and the actual products you receive, including but not limited to: height weight personality etc.
I would like to see some bad reviews. I've seen them on T3 R and it makes me wonder how I ranked the provider and the next review marked them higher or lower. When I do repeat with a provider that got a lower score after I've seen them, but I got treated the same as last time I saw them or even better since they know me. There's always two sides of the coin. Same thing happens with civvies and in the real world. It's the human interaction.
Recently I didn't click with a provider. I saw the review on here and it was well written with the type I was looking for. Went over tried a different girl, but based on the report O saw the girl that was reviewed and scheduled to see her another time. Well the chemistry wasn't there. CFS and Mish only no DATY or FIV or BBBJ that the review stated. I felt disappointed but also questioned myself. Was I smelling bad? Was I not good looking enough for her. Etc.
It made me go into my corner and think what could have done better but it cost me $$.
So tried the customer service approach. Talk to the MMS (well texted anyways). It surprised me that she apologized for the bad service. Asked me to come back and try another. And she waive the house fee. Another time at a different spa. I felt shorted and told the MMS, and she waived the hf. That's why learned from the members of this forum. Fight for your services. I don't know if you can that with independents. Might be standoff with the pimps. Hence the reluctance to see the BB crew.
We all know moderating is a tough gig. Been there myself. Having the power to boot people off or erase the comments.
A wise man speaks because he has something to say, a fool speaks because he has to say something.
Admin has a tough job keeping the posts focused on the theme of these threads and from what I've seen, and experienced, does a good job.
We all have to remember that Your Mileage May Vary, and even if you adore a provider, the next customer may not. This has to be accepted and should be respected.
It's also fair to disagree with someone, but as they say, don't be disagreeable. Should you need to get up under someone and push them into the wall, take it to the "stupid shit" thread and hash it out.
I've seen Admin be quite tolerant to a lot of shit flinging in the "Stupid Shit" thread. So take the shit there.
As for shilling. Anyone who is well known by the ladies and Mama-sans in these forums, in my opinion, can't really give true and honest posts all the time. If they are well known, they can only share positive posts because they will have to face consequences if they post something negative.
As that follows, the ladies will expect an avid poster they know, to protect them. And I would not be surprised if a well known avid poster who gives lavishly positive posts and steps up to protect the ladies was getting special rewards for his efforts. Free-bees, discounts, special privileges, or what ever, I suspect the rewards are worthwhile.
Anonymity I think adds to credibility.
Pete The Great
04-27-24, 13:41
Holy shit. That guy was a SD legend. I used a lot of his non-FS recs. I was actually going to ask about more of his music playlist. There was a post that had some good massage songs on it. LOL. Manny.I agree Manny, The Daty King is a San Diego mongering legend! I probably got more poon from his recommendations than all other posters on this site combined.
It's sad all of the credible reliable posters, who's reviews were always dead on accurate, are all gone (BlueSkyBlue, MuffMan, PoonTangJohnny and now the DatyKing), and what's left are shill reviews for massage parlors that pop up daily from posters with a handful of posts. It's really pathetic. I would never visit any of those spas. Oh well, I'm glad I learned what I did from the aforementioned mongers. It has served me well in my "mongering". Thanks guys and a special thanks to The King!
I agree Manny, The Daty King is a San Diego mongering legend! I probably got more poon from his recommendations than all other posters on this site combined.
It's sad all of the credible reliable posters, who's reviews were always dead on accurate, are all gone (BlueSkyBlue, MuffMan, PoonTangJohnny and now the DatyKing), and what's left are shill reviews for massage parlors that pop up daily from posters with a handful of posts. It's really pathetic. I would never visit any of those spas. Oh well, I'm glad I learned what I did from the aforementioned mongers. It has served me well in my "mongering". Thanks guys and a special thanks to The King!PutoJohnny led me wrong on more than one occasion. DatyKing never impressed me once. He was full of isht.
PutoJohnny led me wrong on more than one occasion. DatyKing never impressed me once. He was full of isht.Seems like this forum is filling up with trash. PoonJoohny or whatever his handle was, was getting his cut from some spas for promoting it here, most of his reviews were fake. In more than one occasion, I was dissapointed by him. And DatyKing never dissapointed me. I actually can say I had similar experiences with the same girls he reviewed on. I can vouche for him, a true legend and for me the most honest one here. But this forum is a joke, including with the admins. At this rate just ban every spa and users. Just saying.
RolfTorren
04-28-24, 01:18
Yeah, its slim pickings at the moment. I'm very careful who I believe these days, and conserve my hobbying dollars for sure things. Sorry to see some of the legends go. I learnt a lot from them for sure.
I agree Manny, The Daty King is a San Diego mongering legend! I probably got more poon from his recommendations than all other posters on this site combined.
It's sad all of the credible reliable posters, who's reviews were always dead on accurate, are all gone (BlueSkyBlue, MuffMan, PoonTangJohnny and now the DatyKing), and what's left are shill reviews for massage parlors that pop up daily from posters with a handful of posts. It's really pathetic. I would never visit any of those spas. Oh well, I'm glad I learned what I did from the aforementioned mongers. It has served me well in my "mongering". Thanks guys and a special thanks to The King!
SDJaziKing
04-28-24, 15:22
PutoJohnny led me wrong on more than one occasion. DatyKing never impressed me once. He was full of isht.I remember PutoJohnny and DATYKing were simping so hard for VIP Spa. Yes, old VIP days were legend, probably almost once in a life time experience you can get from regular AMPs, but their operation was handled too risky; STACKS of used condoms and used tissues in the trash bin, no soundproof rooms (7. 1 dolby-atmos surround moaning through the hallway), tight scheduling, double booking, fuck man you name it.
I raised the concern about the safety back then and holy shit, those motherfuckers went crazy on me. They were simply simping through the roof whole time.
DrPornDawger
04-29-24, 00:30
https://m.tnaflix.com/amateur-porn/YouTuber-Raina-Huang/video7551685
I was eating at Brooklyn Boyz Pizza in Oceanside with my marine buddies and they said that Raina will be there around noon Monday.
We're going to go and eat some pizza and see if this is true. I want to see her in person.
MaximusKahn
04-29-24, 10:53
The studies do say that sex with partners that lasts 7-10 minutes can be the most effective in romantic situations.
A lot has to do with how much consideration you give to her pleasure as to how long she may allow you to be in her.
Personally I like a long slow fuck session, so I can enjoy the experience. I find its more if the clock runs out than how long I've been fucking them.
If you are a ram and slam kind of guy, it might not last so long. You often see posts about how well she can take a pounding.
Consider a few things. Chemistry, how well you are treating her, and how many times she’s already fucked that day before you.
Know that fuck factory, (full service full time) providers want you to cum and go so they can make a buck for the least fuck and will encourage a quick finish. Why do they encourage half hour sessions? Quick turn around time, and plenty of time for most mongers to be satisfied.
When ever they say "fuck me" or the performance goes over the top, they're thinking hey, your time is done, finish and move along. And if you think about those times, it might be around 5-7 minutes, or less.
This is also why so many love to do cowgirl, or reverse cowgirl, it allows them to quicken the tempo and get you to bust your nut. Some will just tell you times up, or tell you to finish. I'm not much into cold hardened FS providers, so happily I don't run into that unless I'm testing a new place. In which case I don't return.
Next time, try to slow down the action and see how long you can actually fuck her, not be all about busting your nut.
I know we have our time limits with our ladies. And some sessions have gone over (YMMV) and some have been lackluster and get thee fuck out. Without the foreplay. How long does the sex last with these high and even to low providers.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-long-does-sex-last
I recall my session where Spencer Thomas was tapping out and told me she would like me to finish. She already got hers.
ArrogantBstrd
04-29-24, 12:55
Know that fuck factory, (full service full time) providers want you to cum and go so they can make a buck for the least fuck and will encourage a quick finish. Why do they encourage half hour sessions? Quick turn around time, and plenty of time for most mongers to be satisfied.Also consider that fuck factories are just that: factories. We might have a better time if we're the first client of the day, but not so much if we're the last client. The providers have been stretched out and pounded throughout the day. They're not saving their endurance for us no matter how much money we bring.
Ultimately, no matter how real the encounters feel, we're still on their clocks. We have to manage our own orgasms. If we go over time and didn't build anything up throughout the session, we may end up with a jackhammer HJ finish. Not very satisfying.
It depends on what you want to do.
ArrogantBstrd
04-29-24, 13:19
Guys like them have written many useful reports, but information that flows too freely has its consequences. People on the forums tend to follow each other very closely. That's why some of the lobbies in the unmentioned spots are full of other mongers waiting in line. One of the banned FS spots has a Google review written by some random guy who complained that, "the girl demanded $160 tip up front. ".
Or in the case of Heavenly Hands, random mongers would go to the management office to ask for directions.
I have been on these forums for about 15 years. We would get hit with the "RTFF" if people kept asking common questions. I had to write a few reports before any of the senior members would share info. It's kind of a hazing process to "TOFTT".
I've never had a problem with any of those guys, but there's too much chatting going on to the point that there's a "Stupid Shit" thread. This isn't happy hour (my handle is named after a beer from Stone Brewery). Just need quick info to find certain services. Everything should be taken with a grain of salt. YMMV. Those White Knights loooove those Chinese spots, but I think Chinese providers are lazy. I love a good Latina, but others may not feel the same way.
DrPornDawger
04-29-24, 13:27
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6Wbx6dLeOB/?igsh=MWQ1ZGUxMzBkMA==
https://m.tnaflix.com/amateur-porn/YouTuber-Raina-Huang/video7551685
I was eating at Brooklyn Boyz Pizza in Oceanside with my marine buddies and they said that Raina will be there around noon Monday.
We're going to go and eat some pizza and see if this is true. I want to see her in person.
ArrogantBstrd
04-29-24, 13:50
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6Wbx6dLeOB/?igsh=MWQ1ZGUxMzBkMA==I have seen her on IG. She's got some teeth issues. Sounds fun, but I'll pass on that one. Thanks for the info though.
TempleAvenue
04-30-24, 17:10
Admin, Please delete if not allowed.
I had an exposure this morning (for a brief moment like 5 seconds and the girl told me she regularly tested full panel monthly). But I am not taking any risk. My primary doctor is retired now. I always tested myself and received a treatment after any exposure.
I am looking for a recommendation. Preferable online if possible to start a treatment but I have to get a baseline prior to and after the treatment. (The last time I was in this situation about 7 years ago, I went to UCSD emergency and it took too long. They run a lot of other blood tests, etc. And it was expensive too).
TIA.
Saturnine99
04-30-24, 22:59
Admin, Please delete if not allowed.
I had an exposure this morning (for a brief moment like 5 seconds and the girl told me she regularly tested full panel monthly). But I am not taking any risk. My primary doctor is retired now. I always tested myself and received a treatment after any exposure.
I am looking for a recommendation. Preferable online if possible to start a treatment but I have to get a baseline prior to and after the treatment. (The last time I was in this situation about 7 years ago, I went to UCSD emergency and it took too long. They run a lot of other blood tests, etc. And it was expensive too)..What do you mean by exposure? To HIV? How do you know, of the girl does full panels, she told you after you stuck it in for 5 seconds?
Can do zocdoc app to see if anyone has openings tomorrow.
ArrogantBstrd
04-30-24, 23:15
Admin, Please delete if not allowed.
I had an exposure this morning (for a brief moment like 5 seconds and the girl told me she regularly tested full panel monthly). But I am not taking any risk. My primary doctor is retired now. I always tested myself and received a treatment after any exposure.
I am looking for a recommendation. Preferable online if possible to start a treatment but I have to get a baseline prior to and after the treatment. (The last time I was in this situation about 7 years ago, I went to UCSD emergency and it took too long. They run a lot of other blood tests, etc. And it was expensive too).
TIA.You have 68 posts, but your most recent 25 posts are inquiries rather than reports.
If you're worried about PEP after a 5 second exposure, then I suggest you find a new hobby.
The quick answer for cheap pharmaceuticals is in Tijuana.
Admin, Please delete if not allowed.
I had an exposure this morning (for a brief moment like 5 seconds and the girl told me she regularly tested full panel monthly). But I am not taking any risk. My primary doctor is retired now. I always tested myself and received a treatment after any exposure.
I am looking for a recommendation. Preferable online if possible to start a treatment but I have to get a baseline prior to and after the treatment. (The last time I was in this situation about 7 years ago, I went to UCSD emergency and it took too long. They run a lot of other blood tests, etc. And it was expensive too).
TIA.You can look for Safelab testing on Google. I've used them before and they are not too intrusive. Getting meds, you will most likely need to go through your doctor. You can also go to planned parenthood if you test positive and get meds. But planned parenthood asks alot of questions.
DrPornDawger
05-01-24, 17:50
In this hobby of ours, we don't have hatred against women or do we?
We love women, hence we fuck them.
What is the word for us?
SDJaziKing
05-01-24, 18:20
Admin, Please delete if not allowed.
I had an exposure this morning (for a brief moment like 5 seconds and the girl told me she regularly tested full panel monthly). But I am not taking any risk. My primary doctor is retired now. I always tested myself and received a treatment after any exposure.
I am looking for a recommendation. Preferable online if possible to start a treatment but I have to get a baseline prior to and after the treatment. (The last time I was in this situation about 7 years ago, I went to UCSD emergency and it took too long. They run a lot of other blood tests, etc. And it was expensive too).
TIA.Is this guy freaking out because he had raw sex for 5 second? And the girl told you she gets tested regularly?
Damn I don't know how your risk management works but this shit ain't it man LOL. Don't hobby then.
MaximusKahn
05-01-24, 21:29
We fuck them, sometimes they fuck us. There are times it's just sex, and then there are those special "ooooh la la" occasions we make love.
In this hobby of ours, we don't have hatred against women or do we?
We love women, hence we fuck them.
What is the word for us?
TempleAvenue
05-10-24, 15:06
Admin, Please delete if not allowed.
I had an exposure this morning (for a brief moment like 5 seconds and the girl told me she regularly tested full panel monthly). But I am not taking any risk. My primary doctor is retired now. I always tested myself and received a treatment after any exposure.
I am looking for a recommendation. Preferable online if possible to start a treatment but I have to get a baseline prior to and after the treatment. (The last time I was in this situation about 7 years ago, I went to UCSD emergency and it took too long. They run a lot of other blood tests, etc. And it was expensive too)..I just want to share some helpful information for those who is not willing to risk after exposure (even the risk is close to 0. Risk is a risk for contracting a HIV virus).
I contacted UCSD (Owen Clinics) and they explained about a program they have (even with a private insurance). That program helped me pay $0 for the medicines, and a program co-ordinartor.
Said the program would cover the testing and consultation if there is any co-pay or out-of-pocket expense. I don't know anything about being anonymous to use the program though.
I am really curious if anyone has met up with this one.
https://callescort.org/619-418-4576
DrPornDawger
05-13-24, 18:27
I am really curious if anyone has met up with this one.
https://callescort.org/619-418-4576I've seen those ads, I want to them as well.
Anyone know of an alternative website that is like rubmaps. I don't lime their new system of payment.
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