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Gentlemen,
Any of you know of a good spot to take parttimers. I've come across a few in the past month or so who can't host. I was reluctant to spend 80-120 on a room + her donation. It just throws off the affordability ratio. Consequently, I've passed up on some chiks I would love to see. Anyone know of some good hourly or 1/2 day hotels, rooms etc?
Md, DC and Va info would be helpful.
Feel free to PM.
Safe hunting,
Drkrider
Those older "motor inns" down Route 1 in VA (about halfway between the Beltway and 95) used to have hourly rates.
New to Brooklyn
12-16-11, 20:39
Monger from NYC visiting for a week in Arlington. Any advice for local action would be appreciated. Staying in Residence Inn.
Thanks guys.
Your lack of responces has me a little, ?able. I do`nt under stand are you saying 340. GFE 1-HR? If that is a $100. Up sale I`m not sure how "popular" you`ll be here. After over a week of trying to get somthing (a hookup) with you, I think I`ll spend my money eleswere!
Greetings Boys From the Cali side of The board! I Will be In Downtown DC Starting 1/4 and leaving. Well that depends how popular I am in DC LOL. I Come Highly reviewed on here as well as other sites, this is my FIRST time in AC so be nice boys.
I am a true GFE provider. 5'2".34B, Bubble Butt Fiji and White Exotic Dream Come true.
Come See what all the Fuss is about! LOL.
QQ. 120.
1/2hr- 160.
1hr-240.
GFE Services +100.
QQ BBBJ- 150.
Honey.
714 586 1809
After 2-PM`s from trusted men here I know you will not see my money. No wonder you jump from city to city.
Greetings Boys From the Cali side of The board! I Will be In Downtown DC Starting 1/4 and leaving. Well that depends how popular I am in DC LOL. I Come Highly reviewed on here as well as other sites, this is my FIRST time in AC so be nice boys.
I am a true GFE provider. 5'2".34B, Bubble Butt Fiji and White Exotic Dream Come true.
Come See what all the Fuss is about! LOL.
QQ. 120.
1/2hr- 160.
1hr-240.
GFE Services +100.
QQ BBBJ- 150.
Honey.
714 586 1809
Baldy Cruiser
01-05-12, 00:56
Honey Spot is an amazing Spinner from Cali. Expensive but worth every penny.
She is one of the BEST! She has that exotic look! She can jump start a Harley! She invented the term "Spinner".
http://dc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/exotic-bubble-but-fijian-mix-visiting-from-ca-mi-x-x-x-ed-beauty-down-to-ur-last-drop-real-pics-21/6806883
BALDY CRUISER :)
Baldy Cruiser
01-05-12, 01:03
More of sweet Honey Spot.
BALDY CRUISER :)
Honey Spot is an amazing Spinner from Cali. Expensive but worth every penny.
She is one of the BEST! She has that exotic look! She can jump start a Harley! She invented the term "Spinner".
http://dc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/exotic-bubble-but-fijian-mix-visiting-from-ca-mi-x-x-x-ed-beauty-down-to-ur-last-drop-real-pics-21/6806883
Baldy Cruiser.Baldy is amazing. To this day I don't know what you do to get all these girls to have sex with out a condom. We should bronze your penis so it can be enjoyed by all colored women. Baldy you are my idol.
To this day I don't know what you do to get all these girls to have sex with out a condom. We should bronze your penis so it can be enjoyed by all colored women. Baldy you are my idol.
Your joking right? There is only one thing they (the girls) are after, YOUR MONEY!
Expensive but worth every penny. Baldy Cruiser :)
Your joking right? There is only one thing they (the girls) are after, YOUR MONEY!I guess I didn't realize just how many women will have sex bareback. Baldy gets it so often though.
Hey Baldy, can you get a couple of creampie pictures
Instead of pulling out
More of sweet Honey Spot.
Baldy Cruiser.Send some of that poontang over to Indiana super bowl coming up in Indy.
RapidSpender
01-06-12, 12:04
Your lack of responces has me a little, ?able. I do`nt under stand are you saying 340. GFE 1-HR? If that is a $100. Up sale I`m not sure how "popular" you`ll be here. After over a week of trying to get somthing (a hookup) with you, I think I`ll spend my money eleswere!I've been paying attention to the DC AND B-more threads because I'll be moving to the area in a few months. I noticed that Honey Spot was coming into town. I had been enjoying her pix from when I was cruising the Humaniplex thread having fantasies about all the sweet young tail they have in Cali, and THEN, I noticed Baldy's post on her and his pix a couple months ago and I knew that I wanted to have her one day.
Anyways. The point of this post is to say Hello, and can't wait to get there AND to say that she up'd her rates, because I've been eyeing her for almost a year now, and she was no where near $340 for GFE hour back then. It might be her "travel" rate (which I don't agree with, but its her pussy) , but just wanted you all to know that at one point in time, she thought her shit was worth way less. Maybe she has such a calling now that she figures she can charge that much. Hope this is informative enough for you guys, and I look forward to getting into that city and having some fun with what ya'll got. Me personally, I won't pay that much unless it includes anal, BBBJ, and Multi pops, and the girl has to be really hot (which she does qualify)
RapidSpender
01-07-12, 23:52
Sorry boys didn't. Know my prixes were too much. Well I'm only in dc one more night but ill be back weekly during. January.
Tonight specials are 100 hhr and 160 hr GFE plus 50.
Better LOL?
714 586 1809It is better. And just for the record. And I can only speak for me personally on this.
Its not that I wouldn't neccesarily pay that much to see you, but when I know that you normally charge almost HALF as much, then I feel like a fool for giving up that much change to see you. Just saying. If your prices were that high across the board no matter where you were at, then I wouldn't say shit, because you set your own prices, and you have the right to charge whatever you want for your time, just as I have the right to decide whether its worth it to me or not. The only thing that bothered us was that it was so much more on the east coast versus the west.
Drunker Irish
01-08-12, 10:08
If you look on BP, the prices have creeped up quite a bit in the New Year. Not saying they all have, but there are some pretty high prices being asked. This goes back to the point that a few 'high rollers' in this area feel they need to overpay / tip and so the market reacts with higher prices. I guess its the same with everything in this area, people have money and businesses accordingly charge more. Car repairs in Houston, for example, are about 1/2 the cost than here.
It is better. And just for the record. And I can only speak for me personally on this.
Its not that I wouldn't neccesarily pay that much to see you, but when I know that you normally charge almost HALF as much, then I feel like a fool for giving up that much change to see you. Just saying. If your prices were that high across the board no matter where you were at, then I wouldn't say shit, because you set your own prices, and you have the right to charge whatever you want for your time, just as I have the right to decide whether its worth it to me or not. The only thing that bothered us was that it was so much more on the east coast versus the west.
Tha X Facta
01-08-12, 12:00
Pre-arrival pm's from HoneySpot:
hey you seem to know alot about DC and you seem cool I was wondering whats a good place for a girl from Cali like myself to post! You should check my posts if you want to see pics LOL.
Maybe we could hook something upHer response to me getting first dibs:
lol good to know and ok thats a DEAL u will be my first as long as u tell me whats a good area/hotel to stay at :-)Jack up the fee, find the shortest possible tour so that the expenses on traveling are minimized.
She tries to suck you in, pull you apart, reduce your wallet to the smallest element and spin you in circles @ the speed of light.
Then like gravity, drop your ass like a hot potato.
Sorry boys didn't know my prixes were too much. Well I'm only in dc one more night but ill be back weekly during. January.
Tonight specials are 100 hhr and 160 hr GFE plus 50.
Better LOL?
714 586 1809She knows; why do you think so many Cali females come to this area?
Especially in mid winter!
Her Cali rate: Click Here
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"Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it"
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X. . . .What's in your wallet?
Amen X Facta.
[QUOTE=Tha X Facta; 1354932]Pre-arrival pm's from HoneySpot:
Her response to me getting first dibs:
Jack up the fee, find the shortest possible tour so that the expenses on traveling are minimized.
She tries to suck you in, pull you apart, reduce your wallet to the smallest element and spin you in circlesatthe speed of light.
Then like gravity, drop your ass like a hot potato.
She knows; why do you think so many Cali females come to this area?
Especially in mid winter!
Her Cali rate: Click Here
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"Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it"
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Seems like she is a great find. I have tried to do some recon of the post and web to gather some intel to try and connect with this little lady since she is in my neck of the woods. Any 411 on here that could be shared? Thanks!
Tha X Facta
01-15-12, 21:39
"First Encounter"
One good visit deserved another.
"Most Women have good sex in'them.
The talented and untalented have the ability to share it with us.
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The trick is extracting it!"
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X. . . . .Ooooh, here we go again!
Seems like she is a great find. I have tried to do some recon of the post and web to gather some intel to try and connect with this little lady since she is in my neck of the woods. Any 411 on here that could be shared? Thanks!Ditto. I'd love to see her (especially considering the dearth of AMP options in DC now).
"First Encounter"
One good visit deserved another.
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X. Ooooh, here we go again! LOL you're welcome. Glad you enjoyed her as much as I have.
Incognito2007
01-30-12, 19:27
Looks like yet another agency has been toppled. They've been around since 2009. I'm surprised they managed to last that long.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/crime-punishment/2012/01/6-face-racketeering-charges-4m-dc-prostitution-ring/2143556
To give some perspective on what the rest of the world is like.
I'm on vacation for a few days in Sint Maarten (about 100 mi. Due east of Puerto Rico).
The legal, government-regulated, brothels are full of gorgeous 20-something Columbianas, just begging you to fuck them at $50 per.
The local government set these up many years ago to keep sailors away from the local girls. The Columbianas come here in cycles, because they can make a lot more than back home.
"First Encounter"
One good visit deserved another.
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X. Ooooh, here we go again! Unfortunately, Miss M decided to string me along all day. First call was around 1pm. She said she was just getting in and was taking a shower before she had to pick up her kids. Actually sounded like she was drunk / Hi. We agreed I'd call her back in the afternoon. I called at 4. She was still sluring her speech. She couldn't get a baby sitter and asked if I could come after they went to bed. I agreed and she asked me to call at 8 pm. I called at 8:15 and, sluring her speech still, she claimed to have had a flat tire and was getting it fixed. Kids were making a little noise in the back ground. I suggested she text me with her addy 30 minutes ahead of when she wanted me to be there. At 10:45 I texted and asked how things were going. Never heard from her again.
Fortunately for me, I was occupied at work and then at a favorite watering hole, so it wasn't like I was sitting around waiting with a hard on. As always, YMMV, but apparently my ticket to ride yesterday never made it to the will-call window.
AD
Pizzlepro02
02-05-12, 15:15
1) It makes more sense to discuss overseas mongerin on the int'l sister site.
2) There is NO COMPARISON to be made btwn what you're seein while on vacation in a 3rd world country to stateside action.
3) Trust me, .5 for that talent is OVERPAYIN! If you're the adventurous type, go to the source!
4) Remember, the DC scene right now is lame by US standards, forget about the 'rest of the world'!
To give some perspective on what the rest of the world is like.
I'm on vacation for a few days in Sint Maarten (about 100 mi. Due east of Puerto Rico).
The legal, government-regulated, brothels are full of gorgeous 20-something Columbianas, just begging you to fuck them at $50 per.
The local government set these up many years ago to keep sailors away from the local girls. The Columbianas come here in cycles, because they can make a lot more than back home.
1) It makes more sense to discuss overseas mongerin on the int'l sister site.
2) There is NO COMPARISON to be made btwn what you're seein while on vacation in a 3rd world country to stateside action.
3) Trust me, .5 for that talent is OVERPAYIN! If you're the adventurous type, go to the source!
4) Remember, the DC scene right now is lame by US standards, forget about the 'rest of the world'!
To give some perspective on what the rest of the world is like.
I'm on vacation for a few days in Sint Maarten (about 100 mi. Due east of Puerto Rico).
The legal, government-regulated, brothels are full of gorgeous 20-something Columbianas, just begging you to fuck them at $50 per.
The local government set these up many years ago to keep sailors away from the local girls. The Columbianas come here in cycles, because they can make a lot more than back home.=============================================
Gents,
If you guys want to discuss traveling to international destinations to get laid, why don't you visit my International Sex Guide forum at:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info
Thanks,
Jackson
Member #5755
02-09-12, 01:34
Visiting DC on business. Staying in a nice hotel. Never played here. Play often in Knoxville, TN, and Huntsville, Alabama. Would like to find a nice, petite. 18-25, caucasian girl to entertain for a few hours while I'm in town. Any senior members on here have any advice, tips? I don't have time to scan BP and figure out the local scene and who is real and worth seeing.
Unfortunately, Miss M decided to string me along all day. First call was around 1pm. She said she was just getting in and was taking a shower before she had to pick up her kids. Actually sounded like she was drunk / Hi. We agreed I'd call her back in the afternoon. I called at 4. She was still sluring her speech. She couldn't get a baby sitter and asked if I could come after they went to bed. I agreed and she asked me to call at 8 pm. I called at 8:15 and, sluring her speech still, she claimed to have had a flat tire and was getting it fixed. Kids were making a little noise in the back ground. I suggested she text me with her addy 30 minutes ahead of when she wanted me to be there. At 10:45 I texted and asked how things were going. Never heard from her again.
Fortunately for me, I was occupied at work and then at a favorite watering hole, so it wasn't like I was sitting around waiting with a hard on. As always, YMMV, but apparently my ticket to ride yesterday never made it to the will-call window.
ADHuh. I had a good experience with her about two weeks ago. Easy set up, easy location (walkable from the metro) , and she was very cool and fun. She has a small kid, so that.
May have caused the issues, but she delivered a solid BBBJ and very nice FS for. 9. I want to see her again and help her put some more, but work has been crazy and it's tough to find the time.
Bunker Buster
02-16-12, 04:29
There is days, that some things just have the Pimp Trick at a loss for words.
Mongers check out this B-252 in action. Might put some chicks out of business.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsp_dkkhrdwHttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6bJoQplOk0
Or Peter Griffin?
http://youtu.be/1VST08xjL2o
Pimp Trick
02-16-12, 14:57
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Tha X Facta
02-18-12, 00:29
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Pizzlepro02
03-04-12, 16:30
I got to an unpleasant surprise recently when seein a BP provider. I arrived at her location & she told me which floor to go to. Then I had to call again for the room, but before she would give me that she asked if I was LE. When I finally got to her room, the 1st thing she asked me was if I was going to arrest her! It was painfully obvious that she had been busted before.
After I assured her I wasn't a cop, she then asked me what my name was while lookin at her phone. I repeated my monger name & she said isn't this you? Much to my surprise, her phone showed the # I was usin AND the name on the account! I've never been concerned about people havin the number, but I had no idea that now you can see the caller's name on a cell. She said she got a caller I'd app on her smartphone after she was arrested in this area. Of course being a typical stupid provider, she doesn't realize that the caller I'd won't say "officer."!
Anyway, I've made the switch to GV since then & it works fine. Maybe the caller I'd thing is just news to me, but I thought I'd pass along the info for anyone else who was also in the dark on that.
BTW, I just had another flake 'double-header' the other! At this point I wonder if the DMV P4P scene could get any worse.
Bunker Buster
03-04-12, 20:06
I got to an unpleasant surprise recently when seein a BP provider. I arrived at her location & she told me which floor to go to. Then I had to call again for the room, but before she would give me that she asked if I was LE. When I finally got to her room, the 1st thing she asked me was if I was going to arrest her! It was painfully obvious that she had been busted before.
After I assured her I wasn't a cop, she then asked me what my name was while lookin at her phone. I repeated my monger name & she said isn't this you? Much to my surprise, her phone showed the # I was usin AND the name on the account! I've never been concerned about people havin the number, but I had no idea that now you can see the caller's name on a cell. She said she got a caller I'd app on her smartphone after she was arrested in this area. Of course being a typical stupid provider, she doesn't realize that the caller I'd won't say "officer."!
Anyway, I've made the switch to GV since then & it works fine. Maybe the caller I'd thing is just news to me, but I thought I'd pass along the info for anyone else who was also in the dark on that.
BTW, I just had another flake 'double-header' the other! At this point I wonder if the DMV P4P scene could get any worse.Officer Unfriendly isn't going to say "aww, you got me! Yes, I am."
John Law has unlimited phone numbers and unlimited identification, in any name he wants.
In a former life, I knew an undercover LEO, a super fellow of great bravery and intelligence, who infiltrated violent gangs. He had a wallet full of drivers licenses with different names and addresses of safe houses, and he'd memorized them all, with a backstory for each identity. How was it so easy for him to get fake identification? Because he worked for the SAME government that issues them. The police can make up as many names as they want, and lie to suspects and the general public about every single thing in the world.
I don't get why these girls have a hard time understanding what "undercover" means.
Pimp Trick
03-05-12, 09:24
Any smart IT person will know that Google Voice new privacy policy allows tracking off the logged in account. Location tracking please. SMH.
I got to an unpleasant surprise recently when seein a BP provider. I arrived at her location & she told me which floor to go to. Then I had to call again for the room, but before she would give me that she asked if I was LE. When I finally got to her room, the 1st thing she asked me was if I was going to arrest her! It was painfully obvious that she had been busted before.
After I assured her I wasn't a cop, she then asked me what my name was while lookin at her phone. I repeated my monger name & she said isn't this you? Much to my surprise, her phone showed the # I was usin AND the name on the account! I've never been concerned about people havin the number, but I had no idea that now you can see the caller's name on a cell. She said she got a caller I'd app on her smartphone after she was arrested in this area. Of course being a typical stupid provider, she doesn't realize that the caller I'd won't say "officer."!
Anyway, I've made the switch to GV since then & it works fine. Maybe the caller I'd thing is just news to me, but I thought I'd pass along the info for anyone else who was also in the dark on that.
BTW, I just had another flake 'double-header' the other! At this point I wonder if the DMV P4P scene could get any worse.
Stealth Mode
03-05-12, 13:48
I got to an unpleasant surprise recently when seein a BP provider. I arrived at her location & she told me which floor to go to. Then I had to call again for the room, but before she would give me that she asked if I was LE. When I finally got to her room, the 1st thing she asked me was if I was going to arrest her! It was painfully obvious that she had been busted before.
After I assured her I wasn't a cop, she then asked me what my name was while lookin at her phone. I repeated my monger name & she said isn't this you? Much to my surprise, her phone showed the # I was usin AND the name on the account! I've never been concerned about people havin the number, but I had no idea that now you can see the caller's name on a cell. She said she got a caller I'd app on her smartphone after she was arrested in this area. Of course being a typical stupid provider, she doesn't realize that the caller I'd won't say "officer."!
Anyway, I've made the switch to GV since then & it works fine. Maybe the caller I'd thing is just news to me, but I thought I'd pass along the info for anyone else who was also in the dark on that.
BTW, I just had another flake 'double-header' the other! At this point I wonder if the DMV P4P scene could get any worse.There is an app that will identify who is calling you, and the name associated with the account. You can go a step further and provide notes on the people calling you and share it with other people that have this same app. Although, it is not 100% foil proof, it will and has provided much needed intel in several cases.
Sr members can contact me for more info
Bunker Buster
03-05-12, 22:43
Hmmm, why have I never seen this on TV? Oh, because you wouldn't carry multiple I'd's in one wallet? Maybe. I've never known anyone. What makes sense is that everything costs money, even for the police, and fake I'd to bust a prostitute is overkill. Otherwise, cool story, bro.When girls engage in 'screening' and ask for I-D, do you think the cop shows his own, so the girl can tell others not to see him? He's going to tell her whatever name he's using, and show her the license associated with that name. They change names to keep their cover. After a number of busts, the name they're using gets posted on various escort sites used by the girls.
In these times of cops shooting dogs, tasing and pepper-spraying college kids, and shutting down lemonade stands, there's no such thing as police overkill. Everything they do is overkill.
EnjoyYourMeal
03-06-12, 08:57
When girls engage in 'screening' and ask for I-D, do you think the cop shows his own, so the girl can tell others not to see him? He's going to tell her whatever name he's using, and show her the license associated with that name. They change names to keep their cover. After a number of busts, the name they're using gets posted on various escort sites used by the girls.
In these times of cops shooting dogs, tasing and pepper-spraying college kids, and shutting down lemonade stands, there's no such thing as police overkill. Everything they do is overkill.And what name does he sign on the charging documents, and what name does he use when he testifies?
And what name does he sign on the charging documents, and what name does he use when he testifies?Another pissy comment. I'm not LE but it seems obvious that he would use his official name on the documents and in a court of law.
Bunker Buster
03-06-12, 18:03
And what name does he sign on the charging documents, and what name does he use when he testifies?EnjoyYourMeal is an adolescent whose sole purpose here is to insult contributors and draw them into arguments.
I sent him a PM extolling the benefits of being a contributor; instead of a polite reply, he posts more nonsense.
Of course you're dating a 21 year old. How could anyone not believe that?
You're really asking that question?
Well, you have fun then. Keep keeping that card wherever you keep it. Your family will never come across it.
Tha X Facta
03-06-12, 19:16
After I assured her I wasn't a cop, she then asked me what my name was while lookin at her phone. I repeated my monger name & she said isn't this you? Much to my surprise, her phone showed the # I was usin AND the name on the account! I've never been concerned about people havin the number, but I had no idea that now you can see the caller's name on a cell. She said she got a caller I'd app on her smartphone after she was arrested in this area. Of course being a typical stupid provider, she doesn't realize that the caller I'd won't say "officer."!
Anyway, I've made the switch to GV since then & it works fine. Maybe the caller I'd thing is just news to me, but I thought I'd pass along the info for anyone else who was also in the dark on that.
Any smart IT person will know that Google Voice new privacy policy allows tracking off the logged in account. Location tracking please SMH.I think "Pimp Trick" has a sound and well-founded point about the "Google Voice new privacy policy."
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/167424-2/google_voice_5_reasons_to_use_it_5_reasons_to_think_twice.html
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You may want to consider another form of communication.
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Pizzlepro02
03-06-12, 22:17
http://www.newbrunswickbeacon.ca/2012/03/01/googles-new-privacy-policy-takes-effect/
Not that concerned about Google trackin my very limited GV call activity when they have my search records on file too! Not to mention YT, droid phones, gmail, gdocs, etc.
When they start sharin this info w / LE w / o warrants, then I might worry.
I think "Pimp Trick" Has a sound and well-founded point about the "Google Voice new privacy policy."
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/167424-2/google_voice_5_reasons_to_use_it_5_reasons_to_think_twice.html
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You may want to consider another form of communication.
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You don't have much to worry about from Anonymous. They don't go after ordinary citizens, they go after "big" targets like corporations and government figures.
If you're the type of person that broadcasts their life to the internet through Twitter, Facebook, etc. (not quite sure why you would do that if you're mongering, but it's possible) it's a bit easier for your information to be picked up as opposed to just surfing the web and doing basic email functions.
What would be mongers thoughts about the hacking group Anonymous and the easy ability to gather information. I error to the side of Minority Report in all life. Especially with Internet 2.
You don't have much to worry about from Anonymous. They don't go after ordinary citizens, they go after "big" targets like corporations and government figures.
If you're the type of person that broadcasts their life to the internet through Twitter, Facebook, etc. (not quite sure why you would do that if you're mongering, but it's possible) it's a bit easier for your information to be picked up as opposed to just surfing the web and doing basic email functions.G Voice is associated with your cell phone and / or an email account.
Email Account Only: I assume that you would create a "dump" gmail account with fictitious information to use to associate your G Voice account and number. If you just use an email account to telephone "dates" it can be difficult, considering the two or three call system that is used by workers. As such, you must have some type of mobile hot spot. But alas, that will yield the problem associated with using a cellular number associated with G Voice (see below).
Cell Number Association: Your cell number is associated with you. Thus, even though your number won't appear, if it is a sting and your number is called back it will ring your phone. Moreover, if you are smart and disable the GVoice cell phone association function on your phone before you knock [which I assume that you would do if you go through the trouble to use GVoice in the first place] (I. E. In case it is a LE sting, and you want to play the "I didn't call you, that's not my number" or "I don't know what you mean, call and my phone won't ring, I'm just at the wrong door") , you may still get a citation {most likely}. At that point, they will realize that it is a Gvoice number (be / see of the gvoice answering message) and just get a warrant for the calls placed from that number, to the decoy's number, at the times of the call. Alas, LE will have your actual cell number and the IP address that you used to set up the GVoice acct and "dummy" google account. [YES, this is a hell of a lot of trouble to just bust a John, but it is only one warrant which takes about 2 min to generate and 10 minutes to get amongst a batch of other warrants from the warrant judge for that day].
The Proper Way: Go to your library and get a dummy Gmail account. Then get a Gvoice number. Then, go to the convenience store and get a pre-paid phone. Associate the pre-paid phone with the Gvoice number. LEAVE THE phone in your car after you get the room number! Also, take out the sim! If it is a LE sting, you don't have the phone or a phone. If they trace the phone back, they will get a disposable phone, and the IP address will be that of the library. Even assuming that the police search your car {which they can't w / o a warrant} they will just have the phone, which has no information. After you get your citation, go back to the library and disassociate the Gvoice number from that phone, and do it all again.
G voice is good for married mongers and those with live in girlfriends. You can keep one phone, and not have strange calling you 24/7, bc you can disassociate the account from your phone when you go home or are not going to use it. If you want to use GVoice as a means of preventing a LE bust or keeping complete anonymity when dealing w/"providers" then you should either (1) select higher end providers that tend to not have LE pressure be / see they are discreet, don't advertise en mass on the internet, and understand issues of privacy; or (2) go through the hassle of keeping two phones.
I come to DC a lot and I RTFF but there doesn't seem to be a lot of action. I check out BP and try to find a safe gal, but not having a lot of luck. Are there any UTR girls that you can recommend to a Senior Member in the DC area (I'm staying in Dupont for the next week. Then Bethesda next week). PM if you have any info. Thanks!
Looking for notel suggestions around alexandria, or right off metro
Hi. I'm looking for notel suggestions around alexandria, by the metros, or not too far. Metro accessible, cheap, discreet, takes cash, clean, can check in around noon, and check out around 5. Something like that would be ideal. I know, I'm dreaming, so what are the trade-offs? Any suggestions? As I say, it can be by any metro stop if it has to be. 1st preference is close to alexandria, then DC blue / yellow line stops from alex, then Anything on the green / yellow, then anything in DC getting closer into downtown.
Tha X Facta
03-29-12, 13:23
1. Click Here (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Prostitution-Arrest-Silver-Spring-Hotel-144677215.html)
2. Click Here (http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/tsa-manager-arrested-for-running-prostitution-ring-032812#ixzz1qRISaevM)
Life is not a box of chocolates.
It's more like a jar of jalapenos, what you do today may burn you tomorrow.
X. . . .Who got next?!?
1. Click Here (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Prostitution-Arrest-Silver-Spring-Hotel-144677215.html)
2. Click Here (http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/tsa-manager-arrested-for-running-prostitution-ring-032812#ixzz1qRISaevM)
Life is not a box of chocolates.
It's more like a jar of jalapenos, what you do today may burn you tomorrow.
X. Who got next?Wow! Is this the same guy that usually advertises on BP for the GB parties?
1. Click Here (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Prostitution-Arrest-Silver-Spring-Hotel-144677215.html)
2. Click Here (http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/tsa-manager-arrested-for-running-prostitution-ring-032812#ixzz1qRISaevM)
Life is not a box of chocolates.
It's more like a jar of jalapenos, what you do today may burn you tomorrow.
X. Who got next?I always thought they were prime for being busted, but this is rediculos if you believe the accounts, Hanging out in the lobby. In and out of the rooms? Not smart. Also about the NoVa busts, it has always been a good idea to carefule due to gang related connectionsl
Pizzlepro02
03-29-12, 18:58
Sometimes a stupid idea is just that, stupid! Where are all shills for these parties at now, huh?
What really gets me is that as soon as the cops showed up, the 'organizer' let them right in the room w / all participants still inside gettin it in!
Just goes to show that when it comes to P4P, the discrete route is always the better one. Dealin w / middlemen will often get you robbed, locked up or worse.
1. Click Here (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Prostitution-Arrest-Silver-Spring-Hotel-144677215.html)
2. Click Here (http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/tsa-manager-arrested-for-running-prostitution-ring-032812#ixzz1qRISaevM)
Life is not a box of chocolates.
It's more like a jar of jalapenos, what you do today may burn you tomorrow.
X. Who got next?
I`m realy not surprised way to wide open, I over herd once they were robbed not sure if its true.
1. Click Here (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Prostitution-Arrest-Silver-Spring-Hotel-144677215.html)
2. Click Here (http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/tsa-manager-arrested-for-running-prostitution-ring-032812#ixzz1qRISaevM)
Life is not a box of chocolates.
It's more like a jar of jalapenos, what you do today may burn you tomorrow.
X. Who got next?
Bunker Buster
03-29-12, 22:01
1. Click Here (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Prostitution-Arrest-Silver-Spring-Hotel-144677215.html)
2. Click Here (http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/tsa-manager-arrested-for-running-prostitution-ring-032812#ixzz1qRISaevM)
Life is not a box of chocolates.
It's more like a jar of jalapenos, what you do today may burn you tomorrow.
X. Who got next?What's the bit in the article about charging $25 for individual acts, as well as advertising on CL? I hadn't heard of a la carte GB pricing, and I thought he was on BP.
Is this our buddy, or some other guy who's sloppy beyond imagination? I hope none of the posters here got caught up in the hassle.
The Big Man
03-29-12, 23:01
I`m realy not surprised way to wide open, I over herd once they were robbed not sure if its true.Yes they were robbed at gun point one. (Everyone)
What's the bit in the article about charging $25 for individual acts, as well as advertising on CL? I hadn't heard of a la carte GB pricing, and I thought he was on BP.
Is this our buddy, or some other guy who's sloppy beyond imagination? I hope none of the posters here got caught up in the hassle.This wasn't one of Roger's parties although it easily could have been. It's a "Roger Copycat". I can't imagine a participant telling the police he paid for sex. Wow. Any $ exchanged is meant to cover expenses of the room and for general admission. I know of a couple of girls who are spooked and not doing parties anymore. They're trying to do 1 on 1 incalls and outcalls.
Safe Hunting,
Drkrider
Capricaone
03-30-12, 08:45
1. Click Here (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Prostitution-Arrest-Silver-Spring-Hotel-144677215.html)
2. Click Here (http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/tsa-manager-arrested-for-running-prostitution-ring-032812#ixzz1qRISaevM)
Life is not a box of chocolates.
It's more like a jar of jalapenos, what you do today may burn you tomorrow.
X. Who got next?I am laughing out loud. For realz.
Tha X Facta
03-30-12, 18:18
This wasn't one of Roger's parties although it easily could have been. It's a "Roger Copycat". I can't imagine a participant telling the police he paid for sex. Wow. Any $ exchanged is meant to cover expenses of the room and for general admission. I know of a couple of girls who are spooked and not doing parties anymore. They're trying to do 1 on 1 incalls and outcalls.
Safe Hunting,
DrkriderSeems to me everyone involved would be paranoid.
The host, the regulars and providers!
From here on out, it's a no-win situation.
Everyone has choices, but now there's no net gain.
X. . . .One on One
Seems to me everyone involved would be paranoid.
'The host, the regulars and providers! '
From here on out, it's a no-win situation.
X. Uno por Uno!Why? This wasn't part if an ongoing concerted LE operation. In fact, they reportedly only came at the request of the hotel, as the result of some carelessness on the organizer's part.
There are some lessons to be learned, but I don't see why anything should change. In fact, seems like a big bust like this may take some pressure off.
1. Click Here (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Prostitution-Arrest-Silver-Spring-Hotel-144677215.html)
2. Click Here (http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/tsa-manager-arrested-for-running-prostitution-ring-032812#ixzz1qRISaevM)
Life is not a box of chocolates.
It's more like a jar of jalapenos, what you do today may burn you tomorrow.
X. Who got next?I had a toe-to-toe confrontation with this scumbag at Dulles Airport during his day job. Let's just say I would have body-slammed him if I had the opportunity.
Anyone herd from Sleazebum? Even though we do`nt see things eye 2 eye hope he`s OK. I know he was going to the GB partys on a reg. Hate too see anyone get himed up.
Anyone herd from Sleazebum? Even though we do`nt see things eye 2 eye hope he`s OK. I know he was going to the GB partys on a reg. Hate too see anyone get himed up.Thanks!
I am fine!
JJ.
Sleazebum endures!
Tha X Facta
03-31-12, 09:21
Why? This wasn't part if an ongoing concerted LE operation. In fact, they reportedly only came at the request of the hotel, as the result of some carelessness on the organizer's part.
There are some lessons to be learned, but I don't see why anything should change.
In fact, seems like a big bust like this may take some pressure off.after his post below the pressure would be off?
I do not go to GBs anymore.The last one was a little dicey for me so I leave all that to you fellas.
JJ.
Sleazebum endures!And not to mention this:
Yes they were robbed at gun point one. (Everyone)
One Robbery Occurred last Summer and Since then I have ARMED Security at all of my parties.Who said: "Life is a daring adventure or nothing at all."
Click here (http://www.hark.com/clips/cnzkydzpsh-jeopardy-14-sec)
Helen Keller. . . . & I'll take "nothing at all" for 500.
X. . . .Just saying
Jackbenimble17
03-31-12, 10:39
If this guy wasn't a TSA agent, would it get any press?
after his post below the pressure would be off? And not to mention this:
Who said: "Life is a daring adventure or nothing at all."
Click here (http://www.hark.com/clips/cnzkydzpsh-jeopardy-14-sec)
Helen Keller. & I'll take "nothing at all" For 500.
X. Just sayingYeah, you'd think. But all this time after that, and the only problem (for a different organizer) resulted from LE stumbling onto it at the direction of the hotel.
Apparently only one arrest (the organizer) , and no discussion of the event being part of a phenomenon that needs to be more broadly addressed.
In fact, it was only noteworthy because the guy was a TSA supervisor.
Looks like LE has the vice situation well in hand now, and we can all forget about it for a year or so. God forbid thus is something that has been going in under their noses for years.
"The proof is in the pudding.". Anonymous
Tha X Facta
03-31-12, 12:27
Roger's Party I attended Roger's party today (my first) , and he suggested I might post a review.Going back anytime soon?
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Enuff of this madness; I gotta find this "Major League of Mongers" that PT keeps talkin about!!
X
Pizzlepro02
03-31-12, 14:23
John:
You're correct that this particular party got busted because of a problem w / the hotel mgmt. But couldn't the same exact thing have easily happened to the any of the other hotel GBs?
As others have said below, these internet-advertised, open admission GBs held in hotel rooms are way too susceptible to busts.
The real question is what's the likelihood that a monger would've got caught up in a situation like this if he was doing a 1-on-1 in the same hotel that day? I'd say hardly any.
But if guys like you have enough faith in these GB organizers to feel comfortable that they won't get you caught w / a bunch of naked dudes & chicks in a hotel room, then good luck w / that.
Pizzle
Yeah, you'd think. But all this time after that, and the only problem (for a different organizer) resulted from LE stumbling onto it at the direction of the hotel.
Apparently only one arrest (the organizer) , and no discussion of the event being part of a phenomenon that needs to be more broadly addressed.
In fact, it was only noteworthy because the guy was a TSA supervisor.
Looks like LE has the vice situation well in hand now, and we can all forget about it for a year or so. God forbid thus is something that has been going in under their noses for years.
"The proof is in the pudding.". Anonymous
Yeah, you'd think. But all this time after that, and the only problem (for a different organizer) resulted from LE stumbling onto it at the direction of the hotel.
Apparently only one arrest (the organizer) , and no discussion of the event being part of a phenomenon that needs to be more broadly addressed.
In fact, it was only noteworthy because the guy was a TSA supervisor.
Looks like LE has the vice situation well in hand now, and we can all forget about it for a year or so. God forbid thus is something that has been going in under their noses for years.
"The proof is in the pudding.". AnonymousIn reality, GB parties are the best and easiest way to get arrested. Think about it: Vice does stings and they make arrests, because it is their job to do so. The arrest in question was not done by Vice, but by regular officers responding to a call. Police officers in general, whether vice or regular beat cops, tend to go for the low hanging fruit. Why wouldn't a police officer seek out a bust that would yield between 3 to 6 prostitutes and a "pimp", all at the same time? Sounds like that officer would get a commendation!
Also, if anyone thinks that officers are not aware of GB parties, he or she is crazy. Anything posted on BP or Craigslist is on the radar of the police.
Pimp Trick
04-01-12, 09:38
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Pimp Trick
04-01-12, 10:38
Tha X Facta,
You need to follow the Yellow Brick Road and see the Wizard of Wise. It will bring you to the Michelin Oz and access to the Monger League.
BTW, you are Toetoe. So run along.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THbY7EL8k5w
Going back anytime soon?
Enuff of this madness; I got to find this "Major League of Mongers" That PT Keeps talkin about!
X
John:
You're correct that this particular party got busted because of a problem w / the hotel mgmt. But couldn't the same exact thing have easily happened to the any of the other hotel GBs?
As others have said below, these internet-advertised, open admission GBs held in hotel rooms are way too susceptible to busts.
The real question is what's the likelihood that a monger would've got caught up in a situation like this if he was doing a 1-on-1 in the same hotel that day? I'd say hardly any.
But if guys like you have enough faith in these GB organizers to feel comfortable that they won't get you caught w / a bunch of naked dudes & chicks in a hotel room, then good luck w / that.
PizzleMany of the reports of BWI bust say they intercepted the Johns on the way out and they admited to Paying, I also know somebody busted in another state and the report says that and the Cops told her that also.
Pizzlepro02
04-01-12, 19:17
JL:
The examples you're describin are situations where the clients got scared when questioned by LE post-session & ran their mouths for no reason. There's a big difference btwn that & a guy attendin one of the parties where the organizer opens the door to LE while that client is in a compromisin position!
In the US there's always risk w / p4p, but dudes who attend these hotel GBs are exposin themselves to an unnecessary degree of risk IMO. How many stories have you heard where LE knocked on the door during a 1-on-1 session?
Pizz
Many of the reports of BWI bust say they intercepted the Johns on the way out and they admited to Paying, I also know somebody busted in another state and the report says that and the Cops told her that also.
In reality, GB parties are the best and easiest way to get arrested. Think about it: Vice does stings and they make arrests, because it is their job to do so. The arrest in question was not done by Vice, but by regular officers responding to a call. Police officers in general, whether vice or regular beat cops, tend to go for the low hanging fruit. Why wouldn't a police officer seek out a bust that would yield between 3 to 6 prostitutes and a "pimp", all at the same time? Sounds like that officer would get a commendation!
Also, if anyone thinks that officers are not aware of GB parties, he or she is crazy. Anything posted on BP or Craigslist is on the radar of the police.I'm not aware of a single monger EVER being arrested at a GB party.
As you note, it's not because of a lack of LE awareness.
Member #5782
04-02-12, 00:58
I'm not aware of a single monger EVER being arrested at a GB party.
As you note, it's not because of a lack of LE awareness.As a person with a legal background who has attended GB parties, you are correct that GB's are safer from LE busts compared to 1 on 1 meetings. In most 1 on 1 situations, the cops either set up a fake prostitue with a wire, or pose as a John with a wire. The aim is to get a conversation on tape where a sex act is offered for money, and most people feel comfortable talking about this kind of transaction when there are just two people all alone in a closed room.
With a gang bang, however, most organizers like Roger are smart enough to tell attendees that the cost is a fixed donation (Roger charges $100) to help defray the cost of the hotel room and snacks, non-alcoholic drinks, taxi's to bring the girls to the hotel, etc. No mention is EVER made of what the girls might do or not do. So no sex act for money is EVER discussed. And there's no law against a group of guys chipping-in to help pay for a hotel, food, etc. Where some of the attendees may or may not play.
Capricaone
04-02-12, 10:17
Its days like this that I miss Lisa at GN. Its perfect for a quick, cheap BBBJCIMS. Sigh.
Pizzlepro02
04-02-12, 19:47
Not to keep goin tit-4-tat on this subject, but you're missin a key point here. In a 1-on-1 situation, the monger can do a lot to avoid visitin an undercover LEO. Frankly, the undercover stings that I've heard mongers get caught up in have been painfully obvious! We constantly discuss how to identify the real ads on this board.
On the other hand, a monger who attends a hotel GB is hopin that the organizer knows what they're doing! In the bust reported last week, the reason hotel mgmt got wise is that the organizer wasn't bein discrete enough. And then once the cops showed up at the door, the dude just let them in w / o givin the participants a chance to even put their clothes on!
So the real comparison is btwn doing a 1-on-1 session w / a legit provider vs participatin in one of these hotel GBs. It's very easy for someone in the hotel (whether a guest or employee) to catch on to a group of 10+ people doing somethin in 1 room for several hours compared to 1 dude visitin someone's room for 15-30 mins.
As a person with a legal background who has attended GB parties, you are correct that GB's are safer from LE busts compared to 1 on 1 meetings. In most 1 on 1 situations, the cops either set up a fake prostitue with a wire, or pose as a John with a wire. The aim is to get a conversation on tape where a sex act is offered for money, and most people feel comfortable talking about this kind of transaction when there are just two people all alone in a closed room.
With a gang bang, however, most organizers like Roger are smart enough to tell attendees that the cost is a fixed donation (Roger charges $100) to help defray the cost of the hotel room and snacks, non-alcoholic drinks, taxi's to bring the girls to the hotel, etc. No mention is EVER made of what the girls might do or not do. So no sex act for money is EVER discussed. And there's no law against a group of guys chipping-in to help pay for a hotel, food, etc. Where some of the attendees may or may not play.
Tha X Facta
04-02-12, 20:18
Going back anytime soon? I guess we'll never know.
Enuff of this madness; I gotta find this "Major League of Mongers" that PT keeps talkin about!!
Tha X Facta,
You need to follow the Yellow Brick Road and see the Wizard of Wise. It will bring you to the Michelin Oz and access to the Monger League.
BTW, you are Toetoe. So run along.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THbY7EL8k5w
Now on to further developements:
Now that PT exposed me as a dog, I have a story to tell.
"Yeah, this is a story of a famous dog.
For the dog that chases its tail will be dizzy.
These are clapping dogs, rhythmic dogs.
Harmonic dogs, house dogs, street dogs.
Dogs of the world unite.
Nasty dogs"
Now, if I could only lick my balls. smh
Why must I feel like that.
Why must I chase the cat!
Nothin' but the dog in me.
Got it: Major League of Mongers
"That's all I can stands, cuz I can't stands n'more!"
X. . .Out
As a person with a legal background who has attended GB parties, you are correct that GB's are safer from LE busts compared to 1 on 1 meetings. In most 1 on 1 situations, the cops either set up a fake prostitue with a wire, or pose as a John with a wire. The aim is to get a conversation on tape where a sex act is offered for money, and most people feel comfortable talking about this kind of transaction when there are just two people all alone in a closed room.
With a gang bang, however, most organizers like Roger are smart enough to tell attendees that the cost is a fixed donation (Roger charges $100) to help defray the cost of the hotel room and snacks, non-alcoholic drinks, taxi's to bring the girls to the hotel, etc. No mention is EVER made of what the girls might do or not do. So no sex act for money is EVER discussed. And there's no law against a group of guys chipping-in to help pay for a hotel, food, etc. Where some of the attendees may or may not play.There are pros and cons with any "monger" activity. However, I like to be in control of my situations: As you noted, one on one situations require either the John or provider to slip up and do something to get him or herself arrested. In a GB situation, all you need is one of the guys there to get a little squirmish / scared / chatty and say something that will result in everyone getting either a citation, harassed, or possibly arrested. At the GB in question one of the participants told the police that he paid for sex! I can trust myself, I have a slither of trust for a provider (I trust that she will deliver what is paid for, obviously or else I would not be there) , but I have no trust for a stranger, especially if that stranger is trying to talk his way out of a prostitution jam. That is the dilemma of a GB. Even if LE knows that the citation / bust won't stick, the "right" cop will still arrest / issue the citation simply because you are there and a participant confirmed that some form of prostitution is occurring. Especially if you are the only one smart enough to keep your mouth shut and you are making things difficult.
On the other hand, GBs are safer, assuming that it is discreet, because unless you are the first to arrive and no one is naked yet, you can be assured that its not a LE sting. To each his or her own.
So any ways I heard there were a couple nice latina spots in the city that offer good deals for time spent can't seem to come across any but I always hear about them any of you guys want to help me out pm me some details please!
So as it turns out the unicorn does exist but to see it you must know some one who has already saw it long story short a friend took me to the spot introduced me to the older hispanic gentlemen in charge and then the latina buffet line was called out I felt like I had took a vacation to brazil LOL there were more flavors than baskin robins I picked the butter peacan rican no clock watching no timer just finish when you finish I know I'm going to be a regular there for now on.
I lived in the DC area in the early 2000s and regularly saw Brandy from After Hours DC. Great girl, very thin, not too much of a looker, but incredible skills. I moved away for a few years and lost touch with her around 2006 or so, and when I moved back, I couldn't find her anymore. I've been thinking about her a lot lately; anyone have any info on what ever became of her? You can pm me if you want.
So any ways I heard there were a couple nice latina spots in the city that offer good deals for time spent can't seem to come across any but I always hear about them any of you guys want to help me out pm me some details please!Well would you let us know where the spot is? I'm latino myself, back in the 90's there were a lot of those places.
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Dcsherm,
So where is the spot, or when do we go?
Thanks
Dcsherm,
So where is the spot, or when do we go?
ThanksI have no problem providing intel but a lot of guys are just asking for hand outs I mean like the older guys on this board say you can't get something for nothing so I'm on a trade only rule right now.
The Big Man
06-18-12, 00:07
This chick advertises on ********, DC section.
I went to see her on Saturday. I thought I was in for the ultimate Greek experience. First of all she is in an extended stay hotel which is a total dump. As I walked in the room she says "I didn't clean up yet" That shit hole has not been cleaned in weeks. Anyway, She is a cute little spinner. She gave an ok CBJ. Then we move on to some mish. I notice she is not permitting full penetration. I then try to hit it from the side. Once again she angles her body so you couldn't dig deep. I say ok, I go for the ever faithful Doggie. She put a hand on my thigh so again I couldn't get up in it.
I then say lets do some greek and she refuses. She said my rod was too big. I asked her, as much as you get fucked in your ass?
I just put on my clothes and left. I did not enjoy this experience. Maybe you guys will have better luck. The rate was a Benjamin.
http://www.********.com/washington/Escorts/try-greek-80pecl-ltlt-i-do-all-3-150hr-gtgt/1281369
Gaggleofgeese
06-20-12, 14:46
What's the deal lately with providers on CL wanting you to send them a pic? I can't imagine how that can be a good idea.
What's the deal lately with providers on CL wanting you to send them a pic? I can't imagine how that can be a good idea." why would a provider would want your picture? I would not send her my pic, if that phone ends in the wrong hands. That's why I have a Google number to call the ladies.
Trick Williams
06-21-12, 19:01
" why would a provider would want your picture? I would not send her my pic, if that phone ends in the wrong hands. That's why I have a Google number to call the ladies.A google number? Expound on this.
A google number? Expound on this.Its Google voice, it lets you generate a phone number and theres an app for your phone that lets you send and receive texts and phone calls with it from that number.
Its Google voice, it lets you generate a phone number and theres an app for your phone that lets you send and receive texts and phone calls with it from that number.Yes you open a Gmail acount. Like Hugh wang was saying you go to google voice get a free number any area code, then down load the app to your droid, with your same phone when you dial it will ask if you want your carrier or google to make the phone call. Most escort ladies used this app. The best part is for FREE no other phone bill. That's why most of this providers have multiple numbers in their phones. If worst comes to worst. You pay $10 you get a new number used to be for free. The first number is free.
A google number? Expound on this.Review my post in the general reports section from 3-17-12 on the proper way to use G voice.
http://www.USASexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?3382-General-Reports&p=1398442&viewfull=1#post1398442
I hope that this link works
I was cruising ads and came across this ad:
http://www.myproviderguide.com/escorts/washington-dc/free-posts/w4m/4103567_spanish-hottie-ready-to-play-a.html
The ad did not contain pictures, but it appeared to contain a personal email address for the provider. I went to my alias Facebook account and searched the email address, and it appears that the providers personal facebook account appeared.
Technology is scary if you don't know how to use it.
Bunker Buster
07-11-12, 02:07
I was cruising ads and came across this ad:
http://www.myproviderguide.com/escorts/washington-dc/free-posts/w4m/4103567_spanish-hottie-ready-to-play-a.html
The ad did not contain pictures, but it appeared to contain a personal email address for the provider. I went to my alias Facebook account and searched the email address, and it appears that the providers personal facebook account appeared.
Technology is scary if you don't know how to use it.The ad is for Jayda, a light-skinned black Latina. The FB profile that comes up looks to be a different woman.
PassionDweller
07-28-12, 18:46
Hello, fellow hobbyists.
I'm a hobbyist from Baltimore but I've gotten bored of the scene up there plus my work requires me to visit the DC and PG county area more often now. I've been reading this forum about a Latina Unicorn? I've been wanting a nice latina for some time now so I'm going to be on the look out for this fabled unicorn (s). It's rude to come to the dinner table without offering anything so you can pm me if you are going to monger in central md and have any questions. I'm not asking for an exact location for this unicorn just asking which areas I should look in? I enjoy exploration.
Has anyone? Made a call to those girls that only offer outcalls for $160 or $180 an hour on backpage. Some girls are from India, few white Americans, there is one from Colombia.
One time I remember reading that they might be a rip off. Did anyone get lucky?
To bad we bad we don't have the Chica House like New York $50 20 min.
Bunker Buster
07-29-12, 21:14
Hello, fellow hobbyists.
I'm a hobbyist from Baltimore but I've gotten bored of the scene up there plus my work requires me to visit the DC and PG county area more often now. I've been reading this forum about a Latina Unicorn? I've been wanting a nice latina for some time now so I'm going to be on the look out for this fabled unicorn (s). It's rude to come to the dinner table without offering anything so you can pm me if you are going to monger in central md and have any questions. I'm not asking for an exact location for this unicorn just asking which areas I should look in? I enjoy exploration.Elusive and almost non-existent. There are Latin houses with girls at very low prices, but they close down and move around very frequently. If you're not plugged in to begin with, it's almost impossible to find them.
Is anyone aware of how successful LE's effort to infiltrate websites has been? I know that LE tends to keep its investigative techniques low key (particularly for ongoing investigations) , but it is surprising that I have not run across any other articles dealing with the fruit of LE's cyber enforcement efforts.
For those that don't know what happened some years ago:
http://rockvillecentral.com/2010/11/police-step-up-efforts-against-human-trafficking-prostitution.html/
http://sexaccountability.********.com/2010/11/ter-moderator-rcprono1-busted-and-le-is.html
http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/135012
Just wondering
It is not just LE that we have to worry about! In this case, the entire city council used a website's reviews as "evidence" to shut them down.
Chilling!
Is anyone aware of how successful LE's effort to infiltrate websites has been? I know that LE tends to keep its investigative techniques low key (particularly for ongoing investigations) , but it is surprising that I have not run across any other articles dealing with the fruit of LE's cyber enforcement efforts.
For those that don't know what happened some years ago:
http://rockvillecentral.com/2010/11/police-step-up-efforts-against-human-trafficking-prostitution.html/
http://sexaccountability.
Com / 2010/11 / another site-moderator-rcprono1-busted-and-le-is. Html.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/135012
Just wondering
Hope this comes out OK to all.
Any link somewhere than can help one navigate the forum's terminology?
Big Jizzle
08-15-12, 08:42
Hope this comes out OK to all.
Any link somewhere than can help one navigate the forum's terminology?Yes. As being a newbie on this forum too, there is a tab near the top that says abbreviations. Just click that and it will take to you basically all the terminology that is used here. I explored every nook and cranny of the site before making a post as to not make an ass out of myself. I hope it helps you out as well.
Yes. As being a newbie on this forum too, there is a tab near the top that says abbreviations. Just click that and it will take to you basically all the terminology that is used here. I explored every nook and cranny of the site before making a post as to not make an ass out of myself. I hope it helps you out as well.See? And it was there all along.
Thanks!
Tha X Facta
12-26-12, 18:05
"Forum - States & Cities - Hawaii - Honolulu
ATTENTION HONOLULU POSTERS
Effective immediately, posters in the Honolulu forum are prohibited from criticizing, complaining about or discussing other forum members.
This restriction includes any speculation regarding another member's suspected aliases or business affiliations.
This restriction is necessary to stop the endlessly pointless rhetoric.
The 1st violation will result in the perpetrator being placed on Permanent Moderation status.
The 2nd violation will result in the perpetrator being permanently banned from the Forum.
I am sure that I will need to ban one or more members before everybody takes this seriously, but I'm tired of dealing with these constant arguments.
Please us the "Report Post" link at the bottom of every post in the forum to advise me of any violations of this restriction.
Thanks, Jax"
X . . . Could this be comming to a city near you?
Drunker Irish
12-26-12, 20:21
I am sure that I will need to ban one or more members before everybody takes this seriously, but I'm tired of dealing with these constant arguments.
Please us the "Report Post" link at the bottom of every post in the forum to advise me of any violations of this restriction.
Thanks, Jax"
X. Could this be comming to a city near you? One can only hope.
Pizzlepro02
03-26-13, 19:41
http://news.yahoo.com/kind-men-prostitutes-170308448.html
It looks like p4p issues are gettin a lot of attention in the media these days. One can only hope that this lead to eventual legalization, but of course I won't be holdin my breath!
What kills me about this article are the asinine myths that supposedly educated people still have about this game. It's really sad how backwards our culture still is when it comes to this stuff.
ldonshoots
03-28-13, 15:56
Has anyone? Made a call to those girls that only offer outcalls for $160 or $180 an hour on backpage. Some girls are from India, few white Americans, there is one from Colombia.
One time I remember reading that they might be a rip off. Did anyone get lucky?
To bad we bad we don't have the Chica House like New York $50 20 min.Dude anytime you see that $160/$180 ad, the chic will show up, ask for your I'd, mail with your name and address on it, get on the phone call someone with your information then ask what you want to do, you say you know what I want, they say no I don't do that and then leave with your money and if you try something they already got your name and address to try and hem you. F' them chics / stay away. I chased one.one time and she got in her car before I could catch her and bolted up the road before I could get in my car to follow her. THEY ARE ALL RIP-OFFS.
ldonshoots
03-28-13, 16:32
So as it turns out the unicorn does exist but to see it you must know some one who has already saw it long story short a friend took me to the spot introduced me to the older hispanic gentlemen in charge and then the latina buffet line was called out I felt like I had took a vacation to brazil LOL there were more flavors than baskin robins I picked the butter peacan rican no clock watching no timer just finish when you finish I know I'm going to be a regular there for now on.I went to a spot in NOVA that had at least 4 chicas there that come out parade in front of you then you tell the chica-san in charge which one you want. Not saying this is the unicorn spot but for those wantin latin-flava its worth checking out.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/2-sexy-latinas-sweet-available-now-23/10178960
I was driving down Rte 50 around FallsChurch but not near the location mentioned above and its a apartment complex where the majority of tenants are latin and I saw 2 hot young latina chics walking across the street coming from McDonalds in there pajamas. It was around 3 or 4pm in the day and it was like they just didn't care and they were still hot. I have been casing that spot out for a while trying to find anymore similar chics and just approach them to see whats up. I will feed back intel if I find a unicorn in that area.
I saw another ad for NW DC latina- with some low fees also:
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-latina-enjoy-while-u-can-38/9174699
Member #4585
05-12-13, 22:00
I'm travelling to Denmark this week and understand our hobby is legal there. I'm having difficulty planning though as my searches aren't proving fruitful. Most sites are in Danish and I can't find many reviews. Anyone had experience in Denmark or am I just stuck using google to translate every page? I'll be in Copenhagen and Aarhus.
Tha X Facta
05-15-13, 17:49
I know it's hot in Florida, but . . . . . Daaamn!!
Click-it (http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2013/05/honeymoon-prostitution-arrest-man-reported-missing-by-wife-caugh/)
For the full story, Click Here. (http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_polk/sheriff-grady-judd-92-busted-in-web-prostitution-ad-sting-in-polk-county)
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Pizzlepro02
05-15-13, 19:07
1) that dudes are stupid enough to fall for UC LE ads which ALWAYS use fake pics!
2) that with the economy so fucked up, our public officials would rather spend taxpayer $ makin BS arrests for a victimless crime than lettin one of the only downturn-proof industries GENERATE REVENUE for them!
Click-it (http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2013/05/honeymoon-prostitution-arrest-man-reported-missing-by-wife-caugh/)
For the full story,
Click Here. (http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_polk/sheriff-grady-judd-92-busted-in-web-prostitution-ad-sting-in-polk-county)
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Bunker Buster
05-15-13, 19:31
Click-it (http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2013/05/honeymoon-prostitution-arrest-man-reported-missing-by-wife-caugh/)
For the full story,
Click Here. (http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_polk/sheriff-grady-judd-92-busted-in-web-prostitution-ad-sting-in-polk-county)
X[/QUOTE]Why arrest them?
The pigs and their feminazi masters claim this is about rescuing victims, so why were the women who were brought to the location BY THEIR PIMPS arrested, then named and shamed forever?
If the 15-year-old runaway being pimped isn't an actual victim of human trafficking, who is? They didn't "rescue" her; they arrested her.
Tha X Facta
05-15-13, 21:16
Why arrest them?
The pigs and their feminazi masters claim this is about rescuing victims, so why were the women who were brought to the location BY THEIR PIMPS arrested, then named and shamed forever?
If the 15-year-old runaway being pimped isn't an actual victim of human trafficking, who is? They didn't "rescue" her; they arrested her.
Look at it like Vegas, the guys that own the brothels are pimps; it's a legal business.
In the streets, more than not, it's always a consentual agreement between pimps and hoes, it's a business.
(Illegal tho, but business is business)
Now, the the 15 yr old . . . . lets say she's just lost and turned out!
Go to: (Pic #39) (http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/92-arrested-in-polk-county-prostitution-sting/-/11788162/20130688/-/8ifssd/-/index.html)
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Mpduration
05-15-13, 23:44
That area has been red hot with LE activity for years. Most of there press releases they announce at least 100 people busted.
Look at it like Vegas, the guys that own the brothels are pimps; it's a legal business.
In the streets, more than not, it's always a consentual agreement between pimps and hoes, it's a business.
Now, the the 15 yr old. Lets say she's just lost and turned out!
Go to:
(Pic #39) (http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/92-arrested-in-polk-county-prostitution-sting/-/11788162/20130688/-/8ifssd/-/index.html)
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Bunker Buster
05-16-13, 00:10
Look at it like Vegas, the guys that own the brothels are pimps; it's a legal business.
In the streets, more than not, it's always a consentual agreement between pimps and hoes, it's a business.
Now, the the 15 yr old. Lets say she's just lost and turned out!
Go to:
(Pic #39) (http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/92-arrested-in-polk-county-prostitution-sting/-/11788162/20130688/-/8ifssd/-/index.html)
XThey justify these operations by saying they're stopping victimization and trafficking, but they punish and humiliate the women they claim are victims. Aren't you supposed to rescue victims? They even put out the picture of the 15-year-old's hair and neck, which make her recognizable to anyone who's met her.
What's up with Mohammed getting caught in the bust after slipping away from his own honeymoon? I understand getting some trim at your bachelor party, or when guys have been married a while, and they're just not getting the goods at home anymore, but was this guy checking Backpage ads in the limo after the wedding?
Is it just me, or do a lot of those women look like dudes?
Now that the cops can't go out and roust the gay bars, they're pouring all their energy into the hobby. What kind of country gives two guys banging each other a marriage license and an adopted baby, but throws men and women in jail for trying to have a little private action?
The police state doesn't want people to go straight; by publishing names, photos, employer names, and marital status for all 7 billion people in the world to see forever, they're guaranteeing that these people will be stuck in a rut, and can be rearrested when they find every other door of opportunity has been closed to them.
I used to think that Alex Jones was just crazy. OK, he is crazy, but he's right.
Tha X Facta
05-16-13, 18:26
They justify these operations by saying they're stopping victimization and trafficking, but they punish and humiliate the women they claim are victims. Aren't you supposed to rescue victims? They even put out the picture of the 15-year-old's . . . .
What's up with Mohammed. . . . .Before Mohammed considered marriage,
he should've sought a fuckin brain from the Land of Oz!!
The youth minister from Cali; even though he has no prior arrest history, should be sent to prison . . . .
so they can rip the lining out of his ass!
Go to: (Pic #94) (http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/92-arrested-in-polk-county-prostitution-sting/-/11788162/20130688/-/8ifssd/-/index.html)
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Horny Dog #2
05-17-13, 18:46
I'm travelling to Denmark this week and understand our hobby is legal there. I'm having difficulty planning though as my searches aren't proving fruitful. Most sites are in Danish and I can't find many reviews. Anyone had experience in Denmark or am I just stuck using google to translate every page? I'll be in Copenhagen and Aarhus.There is a sister site to this one for international:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?179-Denmark
The police state doesn't want people to go straight; by publishing names, photos, employer names, and marital status for all 7 billion people in the world to see forever, they're guaranteeing that these people will be stuck in a rut, and can be rearrested when they find every other door of opportunity has been closed to them.
Guilty until proven innocent or innocent until proven guilty. The issue that I have with publishing the names and pictures of those arrested is that they are presumed guilty before their trial. I feel that until the arrested have been found guilty in a court of law that their right to privacy have been violated. Delaware State Police used to publish pictures of streetwalkers and johns that they arrested on their website. I believe that the lawyer of one of the people arrested found a loophole declaring publishing the arrestee's photo violated the privacy of his client because his client had not be declared guilty by a judge. If I remember correctly DSP stopped publishing pictures of those arrested for for awhile. I do not know if DSP restarted the process of publishing pictures of those arrested.
Propilot-Always check your six.
I was wondering if anyone has been to one of these Tantra studios. I am trying to look into if it worth the time and money and can't seem to find any reviews at all.
It looks very interesting toe and I am leaning toward trying Goddess ISADORA out on my upcoming visit to the DC area.
The Big Man
07-08-13, 22:34
I was wondering if anyone has been to one of these Tantra studios. I am trying to look into if it worth the time and money and can't seem to find any reviews at all.
It looks very interesting toe and I am leaning toward trying Goddess ISADORA out on my upcoming visit to the DC area.I always wondered also. Let me know what kind of new and improved freak shit that is.
I'm not saying don't TOFTT, but you're more likely to set yourself up for disappointment. On one hand you're much less likely to encounter some gangster shit, get robbed by gun or knife-point, but I expect that you're going to leave less than impressed with a much lighter wallet. She might sit there and give you the distant strip club treatment where she does a lot of talking. Then you're going to find yourself where oh, great, you get to see some 55 year old titties and pay $80 for an HJ, which you're going to have to negotiate from $100 at that.
Furthermore, you have to e-mail her to get in contact with her. I think she has a 21st century pimp where one guy has this agency / business, and she happens to be one of the providers. That's where a lot of the cost comes in. It's probably something where the $150 she collects from you goes straight to the dude, and if she wants to make any money, she has to get another $200 out of you for sex, so now you've spent $350 on a 55 year-old woman who you have to listen to for all that time. I guess if you buy her healing / tantric sex education nonsense, then there ya go. That's part of the experience you pay for.
I had one experience with one of these tantra healer types. She was independent and did reasonably well for herself in a variety of sex related things. I don't believe she actually had to have sex with anyone she didn't want to. Basically I ended up paying for a 5 min light touch frontal rub down that included an HJ and 50 minutes of listening to her talk. Total cost: $200. Would not repeat. LOL.
Please try her and get back to us with positive news, but I don't think you'll find the experience worth the money.
Hi,
Pardon for the partial cross-post. I'm back in DC after being away for a few years. In light of AMP closures and the report of phone numbers being posted by LE, are there any options left for incall that do not require a previous appointment? I was always reporting my AMP experiences back in the day. I don't want to use my cell phone or email under the current circumstances, and after some bad experiences gave up on SWs in DC over 10 years ago.
If any Seniors can PM me, I will be happy to investigate and reciprocate.
I was living in DC back in 2003 and it was saturated with a lot of good quality massage parlor locations, I mean so good that the girls there were head turners, college girl / cheerleader type! There was 1 on Wisconsin Ave and many other locations. You would simply call, make an apt, go in sit down in the room and a bunch of girls would come to greet you a minimum of 4 girls, then you would select the girl you like it was the hardest part because all were hot as hell! The room was extremely nice / clean with candles and huge mirrors. Some girls do extras here and there if you are a regular. I am now back in DC, and these places seem to have disappeared! Any help?
Bunker Buster
08-27-13, 21:07
I was living in DC back in 2003 and it was saturated with a lot of good quality massage parlor locations, I mean so good that the girls there were head turners, college girl / cheerleader type! There was 1 on Wisconsin Ave and many other locations. You would simply call, make an apt, go in sit down in the room and a bunch of girls would come to greet you a minimum of 4 girls, then you would select the girl you like it was the hardest part because all were hot as hell! The room was extremely nice / clean with candles and huge mirrors. Some girls do extras here and there if you are a regular. I am now back in DC, and these places seem to have disappeared! Any help?A lineup with only 4 was the poorhouse. Downtown and 1818 would have 8-10, all of whom were at least 8s on a civilian scale, and many were 10s on a pro scale. There was one on 9th St. Near Florida that sometimes only had 2, but $$ on a slow night got me both of them doing a dream-team tag-team.
DHS / ICE went after them under the pretext of "national security." Once they had their power, they didn't go after Spanish gangs or terrorists who snuck into the country, but Korean girls who didn't have work visas. Keeping us safe, one raid at a time.
Saw this dancer out on the town the other night but I was with another female. Last we spoke was in April. No pics yet. Trusted members can pm if interested.
Tha X Facta
09-25-13, 19:47
Y'all gonna to post up on a hoe?
Or keep philosophizing on mongering techniques?
Streets, Backpage, Strip Club, Private party ect., it don't matter!
Pick a hoe, any hoe
X . . . Somebody Post!
[QUOTE=Tha X Facta; 1884747]Y'all going to to post up on a hoe?
Or keep philosophizing on mongering techniques?
Streets, Backpage, Strip Club, Private party ect, it don't matter!
Pick a hoe, any hoe
X. Somebody Post! [/QUOT.
Man I did give a reference to a dude on this board last week, he has yet to write a review though, that being said it's been months since I fucked a DC girl and as anybody knows I usually fuck with part timers. I usually review spots not individual girls. I could review a spot that I've put many mongers onto but that's not happening on the open googleble board. Anybody who has my contact information can get at me for details.
Tha X Facta
09-28-13, 12:40
My bad
Man I did give a reference to a dude on this board last week, he has yet to write a review though . .
Now you know who is who!
. . . . . I was able to assist a local player with intel hint, provide a review if you fall through.
There's a new generation of monger in DC;
I remember when the DC threads were chirping with information. 24/7.
Everybody knew who was who and info was passed along generously and reported on.
But now?!?
On another note:
LOL, You Punked Admin2 out on the board . . . .
Calm down admin, And then, proceeded to explain yourself, with no repercussions.
SMDH . . . . I'm still laughing about that shit!!
Now had that been OM78 . . . . . . tsk, tsk, tsk
X . . . Somebody's gotta stir the pot
Original Man 78
09-29-13, 14:43
Yeah,
And that's why the DC thread sucks.
Now had that been OM78. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
X. Somebody's got to stir the pot
I read this board for a year or more before dipping my toe into the water in 2003. It was easy back then.
I took six years off from the hobby and then resumed in 2009 via BP, but am just too nervous anymore with all the LEO stings. I sometimes can't help myself and take a risk and my best advice to anyone is to monger inside city limits. No MoCo or PG ever. (I have no idea about VA, but I have no interest in learning either).
Truxton2001
10-03-13, 02:47
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cas/4106260762.html
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cas/4106260762.htmlHmmm. I thought the CDC was on shutdown sounds like a disgruntled federal worker wants their job back.
Local LE is known to work with fed LE but I doubt that the department of transportation would work with a sheriff's deputy to bust a brooklynite who used federally funded highways to hustle.
I'd still avoid route 1 in any state though
Showtime2020
10-07-13, 22:57
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cas/4106260762.htmlI agree with Wise on this one. That sounds like too much coordination for an LE Sting especially during the shutdown. Someone is disgruntled and that can be any number people these days.
Not in this area, but whoa! Newlyweds trap a monger through CL ad, and kill him just for the thrill of it!
http://www.newser.com/story/178812/newlyweds-killed-guy-for-kicks-cops.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=united&utm_campaign=rss_top
Pizzlepro02
12-27-13, 18:08
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/27/opinion/wells-prostitution-victims/index.html?hpt=hp_t4
This article is the type of biased, unsubstantiated tripe that has made p4 p so hard to come by in the DMV! However, I'm very happy to hear that our neighbors to the North have decided to finally fully join the ranks of the civilized.
Let's hope that some day in our lifetimes our country can move past Puritanism. In the meantime, I may have to take some field trips north of the border in the near future. . .
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/27/opinion/wells-prostitution-victims/index.html?hpt=hp_t4
This article is the type of biased, unsubstantiated tripe that has made p4 p so hard to come by in the DMV! However, I'm very happy to hear that our neighbors to the North have decided to finally fully join the ranks of the civilized.
Let's hope that some day in our lifetimes our country can move past Puritanism. In the meantime, I may have to take some field trips north of the border in the near future. . .I was making monthly trips up north a year or so ago. Under existing law, outcall escorting is legal. You couldn't do incall because you would have a property associated with prostitution, which was illegal. There are plenty of regional Canadian websites. I used them extensively and never had a bad session. The hourly donation was also quite reasonable. I never tried AMPs or non. AMPs. They were essentially illegal anyway, and, the reviews didn't make it worth it. The interpretation of the laws varied widely among the provinces, and, I suspect this will be the case going forward. Presently, Ontario leaves outcalls completely alone. Quebec pretty much as everything right now. I've heard that the western provinces are a lot more conservative.
Tha X Facta
12-28-13, 14:13
. . resulting from entering the Guide.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11024-Google-has-tagged-the-site-as-unsafe&
Norton is kicking ass, but has anybody else received this shit?
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Tha X Facta
12-28-13, 18:04
A totally new and unusual disease has been brought aboard the "USA Sex Guide".
The USASG is being unmercifully attacked.
It's no good "She's Breaking Up" and Admin can't take anymore . . . .
I sat down.
Huh?!?
I sat down again.
Why isn't Admin 2 at his station?" SMDH!
X . . . Stay tuned for further Info
Pizzlepro02
12-29-13, 15:59
I may have to brush up on my French.
I was making monthly trips up north a year or so ago. Under existing law, outcall escorting is legal. You couldn't do incall because you would have a property associated with prostitution, which was illegal. There are plenty of regional Canadian websites. I used them extensively and never had a bad session. The hourly donation was also quite reasonable. I never tried AMPs or non. AMPs. They were essentially illegal anyway, and, the reviews didn't make it worth it. The interpretation of the laws varied widely among the provinces, and, I suspect this will be the case going forward. Presently, Ontario leaves outcalls completely alone. Quebec pretty much as everything right now. I've heard that the western provinces are a lot more conservative.
Tha X Facta
12-30-13, 14:36
X . . . Stay tuned for further Info
A Resolution ----> Click it
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Shelby 500
01-03-14, 02:16
There is a survey being conducted by Christine Milrod, PhD, of mature, baby boomer hobbyists over 60. She writes that this is an "understudied group of hobbyists, and yet they comprise a very important part of our hobbying community. We need to hear from them. What they want, what they like and what they do." Dr. Milrod is a legitimate clinical researcher. You can find out more about her here: www.sexandlifecoaching.com.
I emailed her and she responded with a link to the survey. It took me about 20 minutes to answer the, roughly, 100 questions. It is completely anonymous. The statistical significance of the survey improves when a higher number of the target group participate. So the good doctor has allowed me to share the survey link with other hobbyists. If you are over 60 and interested in taking the survey, send me a PM and I'll send you the link to the survey. Or you can contact Dr. Milrod directly through the website. She's very prompt in returning emails. This is a blind scientific study. The results will likely be published in a scientific journal in late 2014 after it goes through peer review.
Let me know if you are interested.
Shelby.
Tha X Facta
01-03-14, 17:25
Why 60, what's the point of this survey?
There is a survey being conducted by Christine Milrod, PhD . . . . .Let me know if you are interested.
Shelby.
Shelby 500, what good is a desktop Q&A survey?
No disrespect to the good doctor, but only personal participation & direct involvement here.
No blind scientific studies . . . . No siree Bob!
She's always welcome to the DMV area.
Dr. Milrod can make personal appts through pm's, directly through the USASG website.
The results won't be published in any scientific journals, but they'll be published in the "Reports of Distinction in DC" thread.
X . . . SMDH!!
Hello my fellow hobbyist. Local Va guy will be staying in Reston for a couple of days and was wondering if anyone had a UTR that might want to come by my place and have some fun. Can also provide up a place for a fellow monger to play if needed for nothing in return. You can just come by and use my room and have some fun. Please PM me if you have any suggestions and if your ever in the Hampton roads area I can hook you up as well. Thanks for any replies in advance.
Next try. I am looking for a more mature MILF. Even 50's and 60's, if they are needy. Would be grateful for any advice, especially on non- or semi-pros? Olecranon.
MrLombardo1
05-02-14, 07:24
http://m.wusa9.com/mdnews/article?a=8557019&f=236Nat geo channel has been running a new series called sex slaves. Pretty much showing busts of Johns and prostitutes. Maybe the PG police have been watching too much TV. I think its bad that the young girls are being forced and I don't care for young girls since they remind me of my daughter. But the few reliable women I see are trying to make ends meet and I treat them with the utmost respect.
JimmyTheSailor
05-02-14, 12:14
Nat geo channel has been running a new series called sex slaves. Pretty much showing busts of Johns and prostitutes. Maybe the PG police have been watching too much TV. I think its bad that the young girls are being forced and I don't care for young girls since they remind me of my daughter. But the few reliable women I see are trying to make ends meet and I treat them with the utmost respect.I'm so sick of fucking neo-feminists and self-righteous douchebag policy makers equating child sexual exploitation with a consensual agreement between two lucid adults. It's just another way to continue criminalizing something that's either legal or practically legal in almost every other civilized country in the world. If someone wants to direct me to fund to help the victims of human trafficking or forced sexual exploitation, I'll be the first to write a check. If I ever stumbled upon any kind of abuse, I'd personally intervene. But the fact is that forced exploitation has nothing to do with what goes on between the vast majority of hobbyists and the women who provide them service. It'll be interesting to see how many real threats to society or real victims these keystone cops bag during this operation. Likely as not, it'll be a bunch of underprivileged women and unsuspecting Joes who get to appear before the judge in a week.
Land of the free my ass.
Bunker Buster
05-02-14, 17:25
Nat geo channel has been running a new series called sex slaves. Pretty much showing busts of Johns and prostitutes. Maybe the PG police have been watching too much TV. I think its bad that the young girls are being forced and I don't care for young girls since they remind me of my daughter. But the few reliable women I see are trying to make ends meet and I treat them with the utmost respect.Most of the girls I see drive their own cars to me, I can see their Facebook pages, and know for a fact they do what they want without anyone forcing them into the business. Girls with pimps don't drive alone, spend an extra half hour off the clock relaxing with me in the bathtub, and come and go as they please.
Every year at the Super Bowl, we hear about "trafficking", they make dozens of arrests, and maybe one of them is being pimped or is a runaway.
The hobby hasn't gained the support of feminists they way gay marriage did, it's not hip like porn, stripping, and dope, so we're now pushed further to the margins, and don't have any cool celebrities to speak for us.
Stay out of jurisdictions where they run these high-publicity stings, and don't spend your money there either. Stick to girls you already know, and others with a good track record. For meeting girls with no history, maybe a new procedure is the way to go. Ask them to meet you at a neutral public spot, like a coffee shop or diner. I can't see Uncle LEO shifting his operation from Days Inn to the Starbucks a mile away on 30 minutes notice.
Keep your eyes open, your brain working, your head down, and think with the big one.
Tha X Facta
05-02-14, 21:45
"The world's oldest profession"
Remember the daily NSID (National Security Investigations Division) ads on BP?
Now this: Twiddly-diddly-Tweet
This can go everywhere, but since here is where I got most of my monger buddies . . . .
" Prince George's County police say they will live tweet a prostitution sting."
Police won't say much about how it's going to go down.
What is known is officers will take photos of suspected johns and give them some instant notoriety on Twitter.".
http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/25409225/prince-georges-co-police-to-live-tweet-prostitution-sting
The best one liner money can buy:
Most of the girls I see drive their own cars to me . . . .
X . . . Enjoying the Show! 317376
Bunker Buster
05-03-14, 02:10
The best one liner money can buy:
Originally Posted by Bunker Buster
Most of the girls I see drive their own cars to me . . . .
But what makes that such a great line? I didn't realize I was shooting for board greatness when I wrote it. LOL.
MrLombardo1
05-03-14, 06:23
Most of the girls I see drive their own cars to me, I can see their Facebook pages, and know for a fact they do what they want without anyone forcing them into the business. Girls with pimps don't drive alone, spend an extra half hour off the clock relaxing with me in the bathtub, and come and go as they please.
Every year at the Super Bowl, we hear about "trafficking", they make dozens of arrests, and maybe one of them is being pimped or is a runaway.
The hobby hasn't gained the support of feminists they way gay marriage did, it's not hip like porn, stripping, and dope, so we're now pushed further to the margins, and don't have any cool celebrities to speak for us.
Stay out of jurisdictions where they run these high-publicity stings, and don't spend your money there either. Stick to girls you already know, and others with a good track record. For meeting girls with no history, maybe a new procedure is the way to go. Ask them to meet you at a neutral public spot, like a coffee shop or diner. I can't see Uncle LEO shifting his operation from Days Inn to the Starbucks a mile away on 30 minutes notice.
Keep your eyes open, your brain working, your head down, and think with the big one.Your 100% right! The funny thing about this kinda stuff is you hear the Johns are doctors, lawyers, all kinds of professions. What they fail to mention is that some of the Johns are LE too.
Most of the girls I see drive their own cars to me
Keep your eyes open, your brain working, your head down, and think with the big one.The danger lies in the 15,7 , 5, 3%. As somebody said, nobody is obliged to spend their money in PG or MoCo. Use the big one, folks!
Mpduration
05-04-14, 10:16
The danger lies in the 15,7 , 5, 3%. As somebody said, nobody is obliged to spend their money in PG or MoCo. Use the big one, folks!This video has johns being busted.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/investigations/Lunchtime-is-Primetime-for-Prostitution-205705621.html
This one providers busted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXYV8ZhlNK4
Tha X Facta
05-04-14, 12:04
This video has johns being busted.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/investigations/Lunchtime-is-Primetime-for-Prostitution-205705621.html
This one providers busted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXYV8ZhlNK4
I retired from BP quite sometime ago; somthin about those dreaded death marches at the notels.
1. Out the car, past the front desk, up the elevator, down the hall and that unnerving knock on the door.
2. Outside entrances were not so bad, but still. . . .
3. Personal residences? A risky undertaking, no control of your element..
Adventurous as it was, that shit was giving me anxiety attacks.Oh, I forgot:
4. DC & surrounding area LE
X . . . 317651
Bunker Buster
05-04-14, 20:15
The danger lies in the 15,7 , 5, 3%. I can't figure out what these numbers mean.
Tha X Facta
05-07-14, 21:20
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Where the hell are they lookin . . . . Six Flags America in PG county?
"We just put a dent in the human trafficking business without making one arrest." Yeah right!
http://dccrimestories.com/promoted-live-tweet-prostitution-sting-yields-zero-arrests/
For the sake of cleaning up the county, I'd like to provide some assistance!!
I'd contract my services to be a deputized officer of the Gottdamn Law!
Clean PG county up!
Throw my hat in the ring and charge 100.00 per head! (No pun intended/No homo!!)
Only, just only . . . . if they gave me immunity to run amok.
X . . . 318450
I can't figure out what these numbers mean.LOL at X Facta. You guys are looking way too hard!
In the post, Buster said most of his providers drive to him. So most could be 85%, 93%, 95% or even 97%. The rest, no matter the number, is where the danger lies even for the best of us. In other words, unless he 100% deals with those who drive to him, it would be foolish to feel too comfortable.
This video has johns being busted.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/investigations/Lunchtime-is-Primetime-for-Prostitution-205705621.html
This one providers busted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXYV8ZhlNK4Check the dates. The first link is from May 2, 2013. While the second has no date I can see, the first comment is 1 year old.
Bunker Buster
05-08-14, 08:23
LOL at X Facta. You guys are looking way too hard!
In the post, Buster said most of his providers drive to him. So most could be 85%, 93%, 95% or even 97%. The rest, no matter the number, is where the danger lies even for the best of us. In other words, unless he 100% deals with those who drive to him, it would be foolish to feel too comfortable.Of course the danger is in the 5-10% where I might go to a hotel (especially if I'm trying someone new), but if 90% of my hobbying is outcall with familiar quantities (some of whom have stopped advertising and gone UTR), I've greatly reduced my exposure. Exposing myself to danger once a month is a lot better than 8-10 times a month.
It's not foolish to feel comfortable for the 90% of my activity that's now low-danger. When I go exploring for new talent, my guard is up and I follow all research and vetting procedures.
My cash-and-dash happened when I had to start working on a new girl to replace an ATF I thought was gone, but since resurfaced. I was trying to switch the new one over to the "come to me" program, which would have included expenses, gifts, and shopping trips, but she was more interested in burning me for a quick fix.
No system is perfect, but the more risk that can be removed, the better.
MrLombardo1
05-10-14, 08:52
Check the dates. The first link is from May 2, 2013. While the second has no date I can see, the first comment is 1 year old.You know there are also videos of how to get out of being busted if you feel you have entered a room with a police sting. Everyone knows about feeling of the girls breasts and her grabbing your crotch but I saw if she is pressing you for money and naming what you want just ask her for a strip tease dance. That's legal and a lady cop is not going to do a strip dance for you. If she does it then you can talk about going further. Of course you should do all your research and try to avoid this situation but this is a last resort. Stay safe my friends.
You know there are also videos of how to get out of being busted if you feel you have entered a room with a police sting. Everyone knows about feeling of the girls breasts and her grabbing your crotch but I saw if she is pressing you for money and naming what you want just ask her for a strip tease dance. That's legal and a lady cop is not going to do a strip dance for you. If she does it then you can talk about going further. Of course you should do all your research and try to avoid this situation but this is a last resort. Stay safe my friends.Most providers are already paranoid about talking $ and expect the client to know the donation amount and handle the transaction without conversation. With that in mind, if a provider started talking to me about $ that would be a huge red flag and I would immediately tell her there must be some misunderstanding and walk out without hesitation.
If she is LEO, or working with LEO, then the odds are you are being recorded in some way and hanging around even for a few minutes more could give them enough justification for an arrest. There are plenty of other options out there and it's not worth the risk, IMHO.
Mpduration
05-10-14, 14:19
Check the dates. The first link is from May 2, 2013. While the second has no date I can see, the first comment is 1 year old.I just found out about those video clips recently. Thought the fellow mongers might be interested. Lots of good intel was in those clips and how stings go down, etc. It was also interesting to note that PG county now how has internet vice crime units. Many people I know never saw those clips in 2013. It was a oh shit moment when we watched them. This a continuation of the vice crackdown since August of 2010. Were pg county was arresting 50 people a month in internet vice stings (25 guys and 25 women) a month on average. The vice rain of terror went from August of 2010 to Jan 2011. Then it started up again in Jan 2013 with the new internet vice units. You can verify with with the Maryland court case search if you know someone who has been busted. The visiting and local providers you don't see advertise anymore got busted or nearly busted in pg county.
Here is a press release in 2010 that talks about the crackdown.
https://web.archive.org/web/20101115152019/http://cms.princegeorgescountymd.gov/PoliceNews/default.aspx?itemid=2904
MrLombardo1
05-14-14, 06:24
Sex is human nature. Some people have higher sex drives then others and need more than from their wife or g / f but may not want or have the time for another relationship. Others may have fantasies or fetishes or may even lack social skills to have relationships with the type of woman they are attracted to. Their just going to drive things to be more of an underground network. Next thing will be Johns and providers being in a black book. Once you have had sex you get a rating and you get in and your in your good to go.
"Let's take a look at what happened recently in this area, in Prince George's County, where police recently got attention for their social media efforts. The department announcing last week that it would live tweet a prostitution sting. A lot of people criticized that move, saying it could harm innocent people".
"The question ... About sharing pictures of people who have been arrested and not convicted, I think is extremely important to be asking.".
http://thekojonnamdishow.org/shows/2014-05-13/fighting-crime-hashtags-police-and-social-media/transcript
"Let's take a look at what happened recently in this area, in Prince George's County, where police recently got attention for their social media efforts. The department announcing last week that it would live tweet a prostitution sting. A lot of people criticized that move, saying it could harm innocent people".
"The question ... About sharing pictures of people who have been arrested and not convicted, I think is extremely important to be asking.".
http://thekojonnamdishow.org/shows/2014-05-13/fighting-crime-hashtags-police-and-social-media/transcriptHeard the same. I was very glad to hear someone in the media criticizing any part of the operation, and I think that point in particular was valid.
Zhuxi.
MrLombardo1
06-20-14, 07:57
I'm tellin you the oldest profession is secretly everywhere. Half the people are doing it but nobodys talkin about it. Could be anyone from that trusting doctor to your school teacher. Of course we all know those crooked politicians are doing it too. DC cop in court for pimping a couple of minors.
http://www.wtop.com/109/3647500/DC-officer-accused-of-being-pimp-due-in-court
Mpduration
06-20-14, 08:33
I'm tellin you the oldest profession is secretly everywhere. Half the people are doing it but nobodys talkin about it. Could be anyone from that trusting doctor to your school teacher. Of course we all know those crooked politicians are doing it too. DC cop in court for pimping a couple of minors.
http://www.wtop.com/109/3647500/DC-officer-accused-of-being-pimp-due-in-courtTrust no man. Because when they think they can do something and get away with it, they will always try to get pussy on the side.
Pizzlepro02
07-10-14, 22:18
If you haven't heard by now:
http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/myredbook-shutdown-could-compromise-sex-worker-safety-law-enforcement-resource/Content?oid=2834783
Not a good look at all for the DMV p4 p scene when you consider the massive number of providers from out West that routinely post ads in this area. This is so typical of how BS morality-based politics can make life harder for everyday people for no GD reason! Now mongers & providers are deprived of a wealth of information that made this game much, much safer.
Our gov't at it worst.
If you haven't heard by now:
http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/myredbook-shutdown-could-compromise-sex-worker-safety-law-enforcement-resource/Content?oid=2834783
Not a good look at all for the DMV p4 p scene when you consider the massive number of providers from out West that routinely post ads in this area. This is so typical of how BS morality-based politics can make life harder for everyday people for no GD reason! Now mongers & providers are deprived of a wealth of information that made this game much, much safer.
Our gov't at it worst.Here's the full text of the indictment:
www.scribd.com/doc/231346859/MyRedbook-Indictment
When you read it, you'll notice that everything hinges on the first count, which says that the RB owners used interstate commerce (the internet) to promote activity that is unlawful in various states, including CA's penal code section 647 be. All the remaining counts are either money laundering or forfeiture charges that rest entirely on whether or not Count One is found to be true.
Like BP and Craigslist, RB's defense will most likely center on the fact that the owners were simply providing a forum for advertising and discussion and had no direct involvement in any illegal activity. I don't know about statutes in other states, but CA 647 be is a misdemeanor and is what's called a "specific intent" statute (http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/647.html) which should provide a pretty decent platform for a good defense lawyer. One problem may be if the govt has already frozen the accounts of the owners, thereby depriving them of the resources they'll need to fight what, IMHO, is a clear govt overreach.
What I think is significant is, if the govt succeeds in this case, they could conceivably use the very same arguments against BP, CL, TER, Eros, USASG and others. And if the govt effectively shuts down or inhibits the hobby's use of the internet, then the oldest profession will just move back onto the streets or adapt in other ways. And that will probably mean additional risks for both provider and client.
Any legal beagles (professional or amateur) care to weigh in?
I'm not a legal beagle so I might be talking out of my ass.
Two major differences between us and Redbook.
1. Our revenue from here is only from banner ads. We are working on some other sites that will be affiliates, but the USASG doesn't take any money from chicks posting ads.
2. Neither us, nor our servers are in the USA. I don't think the Redbook guys did that. This week they would have to find the data in Liberia, who knows where the servers will be next week.
The only thing we really need to do next is to move the URL which we might get around to someday. As of right now, this is a discussion forum and nothing else. So far, they haven't written out protected speech in the constitution. Given the way things are going in Sex Prison, I'm not sure it's always going to be that way but for now you guys can continue to publish your fiction and thought exercises as long as you wish.
Again, I'm not a lawyer, have never played one on TV, nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night. I'm pretty sure I'm correct about this but I'm not positive. We are thinking about starting some social media, not really for the conversation, just to have multiple places you guys can find us if we ever need to move quickly. Maybe Twitter and FB. Again, not so much for the convo, we wont be pissed if nobody likes us, just a place we can post a new link if need be.
A2
Here's the full text of the indictment:
www.scribd.com/doc/231346859/MyRedbook-Indictment
When you read it, you'll notice that everything hinges on the first count, which says that the RB owners used interstate commerce (the internet) to promote activity that is unlawful in various states, including CA's penal code section 647 be. All the remaining counts are either money laundering or forfeiture charges that rest entirely on whether or not Count One is found to be true.
Like BP and Craigslist, RB's defense will most likely center on the fact that the owners were simply providing a forum for advertising and discussion and had no direct involvement in any illegal activity. I don't know about statutes in other states, but CA 647 be is a misdemeanor and is what's called a "specific intent" statute (http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/647.html) which should provide a pretty decent platform for a good defense lawyer. One problem may be if the govt has already frozen the accounts of the owners, thereby depriving them of the resources they'll need to fight what, IMHO, is a clear govt overreach.
What I think is significant is, if the govt succeeds in this case, they could conceivably use the very same arguments against BP, CL, TER, Eros, USASG and others. And if the govt effectively shuts down or inhibits the hobby's use of the internet, then the oldest profession will just move back onto the streets or adapt in other ways. And that will probably mean additional risks for both provider and client.
Any legal beagles (professional or amateur) care to weigh in?
I'm not a legal beagle so I might be talking out of my ass.
Two major differences between us and Redbook.
1. Our revenue from here is only from banner ads. We are working on some other sites that will be affiliates, but the USASG doesn't take any money from chicks posting ads.
2. Neither us, nor our servers are in the USA. I don't think the Redbook guys did that. This week they would have to find the data in Liberia, who knows where the servers will be next week.
The only thing we really need to do next is to move the URL which we might get around to someday. As of right now, this is a discussion forum and nothing else. So far, they haven't written out protected speech in the constitution. Given the way things are going in Sex Prison, I'm not sure it's always going to be that way but for now you guys can continue to publish your fiction and thought exercises as long as you wish.
Again, I'm not a lawyer, have never played one on TV, nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night. I'm pretty sure I'm correct about this but I'm not positive. We are thinking about starting some social media, not really for the conversation, just to have multiple places you guys can find us if we ever need to move quickly. Maybe Twitter and FB. Again, not so much for the convo, we wont be pissed if nobody likes us, just a place we can post a new link if need be.
A2I think both those differences are huge and especially staying out of reach of what is increasingly a grasping, overreaching, big-brother govt.
What I'm hoping for is a resolution to this case that exposes the govt's position as the flimsy house of cards it is. Because, if Count One fails, everything else collapses. And since the case will be heard in San Francisco, a famously liberal jurisdiction, the defense attorney will only need to convince one juror that providing an advertising / discussion site for adult pursuits has absolutely no equivalence to pimping or trafficking or otherwise profiting from illegal activity. If the govt loses this case, it will be a major victory for free speech and individual freedoms.
Better yet just legalize the whole damn thing, switch LE's focus to stopping real (not imagined) trafficking and violence against women, and thereby join most of the civilized world!
What I think is significant is, if the govt succeeds in this case, they could conceivably use the very same arguments against BP, CL, TER, Eros, USASG and others. And if the govt effectively shuts down or inhibits the hobby's use of the internet, then the oldest profession will just move back onto the streets or adapt in other ways. And that will probably mean additional risks for both provider and client.
Any legal beagles (professional or amateur) care to weigh in?Free speech is the key. USA sex guide is a forum for people to use to communicate. USASG does not promote anything, but it does provide a platform for people to share their experiences. I am not going to draw an analogy between USASG and RedBook. However, in general prostitution issues / trafficking gets people arrested if they do something within the 3 broad categories: (1) getting $$ directly / indirectly from aiding or participating in prostitution / trafficking; (2) not paying taxes (assuming $$ earned in US) for funds obtained; or (3) aiding or participating in prostitution / trafficking (whether or not money is received directly from it).
OK d.c. , hoping you guys can assist. I'm growing bored with BP / CL and street trolling. Taking a trip to town to see about my luck at the DC non-stripper watering holes. Anyone know where the cougars hang out? I mean real cougars. Not 30 year Olds with 6 kids. I'm talking 45 and up looking to have fun, be flirty, and open to see how thing s go. Race doesn't really matter although I may avoid the sistas in the area; too many Greeks (no not that kind of greek) with too many connections will have your business all over town quick. Feel free to post here or pm. If I strike out, looks like I'll pay Brazilian Sara another visit.
Just watched the "This is Life" episode with Lisa Ling regarding sugar babies / sugar daddies. I put modern sugar babies on the same end of the working girl spectrum as escorts / prostitutes, except some don't realize that they are working girls.
I know that there are some members of this forum that are currently sugar daddies. I have a SO, so I tend to gravitate towards younger less economically stable women, because I get what I want more quickly and with less hassle (which is why I like strippers and, believe it or not, waitresses so much). I never considered myself a sugar daddy, just a guy helping out a "friend" that needed help making ends meet. So what makes a sugar daddy a sugar daddy, versus a guy just helping out a younger woman to expedite the sex and maintain a position of control / authority / dominance.
I have some buddies whose wives only dealt with them (I suspect) because of their profession. Likewise, my friends probably only wanted the wives because they were attractive. So, if a sugar baby is a working girl, does her status change if she marries and becomes monogamous with the sugar daddy? Likewise, is there a difference if a guy meets a girl who is down on her luck, and he offers to help her out financially, knowing that sex / further contact is the "bargained for outcome / consideration" even if it is never expressly stated? For that matter is a woman's acceptance of the term "sugar baby" just a socially acceptable / less stigmatized term for "gold digger" or if sex is involved "prostitute"?
But the sugar baby / sugar daddy scenario is not considered prostitution. Is that because the sugar baby / sugar daddy relationship is more like having the working girl on retainer? Or is it because there is an ongoing relationship and the $$ isn't for sex, but simply to convince the woman to spend time and "decide" to have sex. I have been trying to draw a mental distinction in my mind, and I am missing it. Or is there no distinction at all?
Just watched the "This is Life" episode with Lisa Ling regarding sugar babies / sugar daddies. I put modern sugar babies on the same end of the working girl spectrum as escorts / prostitutes, except some don't realize that they are working girls.
I know that there are some members of this forum that are currently sugar daddies. I have a SO, so I tend to gravitate towards younger less economically stable women, because I get what I want more quickly and with less hassle (which is why I like strippers and, believe it or not, waitresses so much). I never considered myself a sugar daddy, just a guy helping out a "friend" that needed help making ends meet. So what makes a sugar daddy a sugar daddy, versus a guy just helping out a younger woman to expedite the sex and maintain a position of control / authority / dominance.
I have some buddies whose wives only dealt with them (I suspect) because of their profession. Likewise, my friends probably only wanted the wives because they were attractive. So, if a sugar baby is a working girl, does her status change if she marries and becomes monogamous with the sugar daddy? Likewise, is there a difference if a guy meets a girl who is down on her luck, and he offers to help her out financially, knowing that sex / further contact is the "bargained for outcome / consideration" even if it is never expressly stated? For that matter is a woman's acceptance of the term "sugar baby" just a socially acceptable / less stigmatized term for "gold digger" or if sex is involved "prostitute"?
But the sugar baby / sugar daddy scenario is not considered prostitution. Is that because the sugar baby / sugar daddy relationship is more like having the working girl on retainer? Or is it because there is an ongoing relationship and the $$ isn't for sex, but simply to convince the woman to spend time and "decide" to have sex. I have been trying to draw a mental distinction in my mind, and I am missing it. Or is there no distinction at all?Trying to figure out why people do what they do is always a difficult proposition. And, as men have found throughout history, practically impossible when it comes to figuring out women! One way to consider the SB / SD dynamic is to remember that both men and women will always use the resources at their disposal to get what they need and want. In general terms, men are more likely to utilize their financial resources while women are more likely to utilize their physical attributes.
For the financially well-off male, this means he can obtain the sex and / or companionship he desires on a short-term basis or as part of a longer-term arrangement. I think you said it well when you described the SB as being on retainer. Even if she makes herself available to others, the SD enjoys a preferred status but must pay a premium for that arrangement. If the SB guarantees exclusivity, then that premium is generally higher.
As I said above, good luck trying to figure out how things look and operate from the female side of the equation. Even for an SB, there are almost certainly a mix of financial and emotional motivations at work. For example, one particular SB may be willing to have a relationship with anyone who meets her financial requirements while another may only consider men for whom she has some degree of physical attraction.
But at the end of the day it's the same age-old dance where both men and women leverage what they have to get what they want. What other people choose to label it, whether prostitution, or gold-digging or something else, frankly doesn't matter much.
One final note is that the most important thing is for both the SB and SD to understand their own motivations so they don't confuse fantasy with reality and think the relationship is more than it is. If purchased intimacy is mistaken for love then you're on a ship headed for a reef.
Life doesn't often imitate art, true "Pretty Woman" situations are rare, and the biggest risk is when that hard-to-define line is crossed. Unfortunately, it's hard to know when it's been crossed and, if you were the one who crossed it, you will probably lose all sense of perspective and won't care.
Bottom line: Always best to think with the big head in any situation.
Horsetrader
09-30-14, 11:16
But the sugar baby / sugar daddy scenario is not considered prostitution. Is that because the sugar baby / sugar daddy relationship is more like having the working girl on retainer? Or is it because there is an ongoing relationship and the $$ isn't for sex, but simply to convince the woman to spend time and "decide" to have sex. I have been trying to draw a mental distinction in my mind, and I am missing it. Or is there no distinction at all?I watched that show too. CNN made it seem like some of the girls were nothing but high class hookers while a few were truly looking for a meaningful relationship but insisted on being with a rich man who bought them nice things (golddiggers).
I don't see a way to distinguish between various commercial or non-commercial sex:
* Pick up a hooker on the street for 10 minutes. Clearly this is commercial sex.
* Sex in the back room of a strip club.
* Call an escort for 30 to 60 minutes.
* Go to an AMP for a massage and sex.
* Meet a girl at a strip bar and take her out for sex.
* You pay a girl to spend 8 or 24 or 48 hours with you. Maybe even a week together. Your time together includes sex. This is common in Thailand.
* Meet girl at strip bar and she becomes your regular. You give her money from time to time and also have sex, but, there is no direct matching of sex and money.
* You pay a girls "allowance", do social things together (dinners, dancing, parties), and you also have sex.
* You meet a girl, pay her living expenses, have sex. She is your girlfriend or even fiance. It is common for women in Thailand and Philipines to have one or more more American or European men making such payments to be the girlfriend or fiance.
* You make a lot of money, you are engaged to a golddigger, you buy her lots of nice things and maybe give her money, you lose your job, the golddigger dumps you.
* You make a lot of money, you marry a golddigger, you lose your job, the golddigger divorces you. Most agree that this is not commercial sex.
It is too hard to draw a line and say anything above the line is prostitution, anything below the line is not. In my mind it should be prostitution if the relationship includes sex, and, elimination of the money causes the relationship to end. But, I also think prostitution should be legal and regulated.
So fellow mongers, I recently decided to try my hand at an agency, since their reviews are consistently high and reports on quality are equally positive. However, when I called the place I was asked for references from other providers in order to be scheduled. I realized at that moment that I really had no one to give them. I attempted to reference places (mostly AMPs) in the area I have been before, but she wanted someone she could actually contact. As a result I was politely told that as their policy dictates they could not help me.
My question is this: as a monger who enjoys variety, I rarely see the same provider twice. Many of them travel frequently and are lost into the wild suddenly. Additionally I have never given a name at any of the AMPs I have frequented. How do I go about putting people like those at this agency at ease? Is something like datecheck a must in these situations? It's new territory for me.
Vbgent4u2c
10-26-14, 23:00
Visiting the DC area this week and am interested in spending some time with a referred UTR in the area.
If anyone has one to trade I have the number for a top notch UTR lady in the Manassas area. Mid 30's, DD's, awesome body, top 5 skills and nice long legs. Very fun to hang out with and she is a total freak She was my go to UTR lady while down in VB, but want to try something different this trip.
Please no BP re-treads. Looking for a true UTR.
Thanks!
Gaijinflyer
11-02-14, 08:18
I had met Sonya in Atlanta before and took advantage of a trip to DC to see her again. She's in Herndon area at a comfortable business hotel. Had a blast with her again. She's a gorgeous Thai woman about 30 yo. Warm and friendly thoughout. Mutual shower, then light massage turning sensual. Activities were very nice. Finished with another massage and fun parting gift. $$. 5 total damage.
TERID: 76111.
Her ad:
http://www.eros.com/us/washington_dc/files/520051.htm
I had met Sonya in Atlanta before and took advantage of a trip to DC to see her again. She's in Herndon area at a comfortable business hotel. Had a blast with her again. She's a gorgeous Thai woman about 30 yo. Warm and friendly thoughout. Mutual shower, then light massage turning sensual. Activities were very nice. Finished with another massage and fun parting gift. $$. 5 total damage.
TERID: 76111.
Her ad:
http://www.eros.com/us/washington_dc/files/520051.htmIs it just me, or does this sound like self-promotion?
Bunker Buster
11-04-14, 05:17
Is it just me, or does this sound like self-promotion?Gaijinflyer may not have a lot of posts, but he's been around for a long time (2005), and has posted in Chattanooga for a few years. His other reports look legit.
Gaijinflyer may not have a lot of posts, but he's been around for a long time (2005), and has posted in Chattanooga for a few years. His other reports look legit.OK. Great looking out, BB!
Hey guys.
I'm new to the area but certainly not new to the hobby. As you see if you look at my posts the vast majority of mine are on the Chattanooga forum, so if your ever down that way, Chattanooga, Nashville, or Knoxville I can head you in the right direction. Do to my job, I'm relocating to the area. I'm currently in Clinton Md. If anyone would like to help a brother out shoot me a pm. I like um short and petite.
Thanks.
Sandmt.Is the PG County (MD) forum, since that's where Clinton is located. The Greater DC area is interesting in how it's segmented and the local PG hobbyists are more likely to give you what you need.
Good luck, happy hunting and stay safe!
Tha X Facta
01-31-15, 17:06
Received a PM this morning from a Lurker with 0 reports @ 07:05am (01-31-15)
Had the nerve to send a read receipt, which I didn't confirm.
"NEW GB PARTIES!!!!!!!!!!! JOIN US"
https://eventbrite.com/event/15561197962/?utm_source=eb_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=new_event_email&utm_term=eventurl_textThe Lurker
363784
Lurker does not participate in normal forum discourse, but he's out there. Watching, reading every message. Generally, he is quite harmless. In fact, his silence usually reflects a natural reticence rather than any sinister motives.
He is content to let the other people haul the conversational freight and, if a fight breaks out he will observe quietly. Occasionally, however, some mysterious impulse drives him to de-lurk and attack.
Other Warriors regard his unexpected assault as an ambush, and invariably turn on him savagely. But Lurker seldom sticks around to fight it out, rather, after a brief exchange, he slips away, never to be heard from again.
X . . .
Received a PM this morning from a Lurker with 0 reports @ 07:05am (01-31-15)
Had the nerve to send a read receipt, which I didn't confirm.
"NEW GB PARTIES!!!!!!!!!!! JOIN US"
The Lurker
363784
Didn't even bother.
At 0 Reports, I ain't clicking on anything.
Tha X Facta
02-02-15, 19:11
Didn't even bother.
At 0 Reports, I ain't clicking on anything.The Lurker
364045
aka ---->MIBlue
"Gtan8484"
X . . . Come outta the closet!
Original Man 78
02-02-15, 20:17
Maybe it's the TCGBC reincarnated, LOL. Some lunk will take the fishy bait.
Received a PM this morning from a Lurker with 0 reports @ 07:05am (01-31-15)
Had the nerve to send a read receipt, which I didn't confirm.
"NEW GB PARTIES!!!!!!!!!!! JOIN US"
The Lurker
363784
Lurker does not participate in normal forum discourse, but he's out there. Watching, reading every message. Generally, he is quite harmless. In fact, his silence usually reflects a natural reticence rather than any sinister motives.
He is content to let the other people haul the conversational freight and, if a fight breaks out he will observe quietly. Occasionally, however, some mysterious impulse drives him to de-lurk and attack.
Other Warriors regard his unexpected assault as an ambush, and invariably turn on him savagely. But Lurker seldom sticks around to fight it out, rather, after a brief exchange, he slips away, never to be heard from again.
X . . .
Vbgent4u2c
02-04-15, 03:25
Will be up on business and normal channels way too hot right now.
Anyone have a nice UTR to share? I will gladly repay the generosity should one come to the Virginia Beach area.
Thanks!
Received a PM this morning from a Lurker with 0 reports @ 07:05am (01-31-15)
Had the nerve to send a read receipt, which I didn't confirm.Same here. I even sent a reply asking for more details, but haven't heard a peep out of him.
Tha X Facta
03-06-15, 19:20
Same here. I even sent a reply asking for more details, but haven't heard a peep out of him.By the hundreds . . . . Like fuckin Zombies!
X
LovelyJewel137
03-20-15, 06:22
I am coming to the the. See. Area for a short stay. What hotels would you gentlemen recommend for a provider? Please help me out.
Tha X Facta
03-20-15, 19:10
I am coming to the D.C. Area for a short stay.
What hotels would you gentlemen recommend for a provider?
Please help me out.What was wrong with the previous locations?
1. Click it
2. Click it
X
Yeah you heard me. LOL. I'm in town for a few days. Looking for the right bar / lounge to find some older hotties to chat up over a drink. I've been to DC a bit. I usually pull plenty of black and Latinas at the establishments I frequent but would like something different this trip. Feel free to pm with any suggestions as well. Thanks DC.
Hi friends,
Does anybody know anything about this provider. She's expensive and quite promising; skinny. Does she meet the raised expectations?
Please pm me. Thanks.
Ole.
Hi friends,
Does anybody know anything about this provider. She's expensive and quite promising; skinny. Does she meet the raised expectations
Please pm me. Thanks.
Ole.Who, you have no one posted.
Who, you have no one posted.Sorry, I've meant this one:
Full Body Massage by Friendly, Sweet, Girl Next Door Beauty.
Silver Spring.
Ole.
I stumbled on this site: http://www.dcurbanmom.com. Check out the "Sex and Relationships" forum: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/forums/show/43.page;jsessionid=6D50F7C095F95DC1449FB31293B5ACFC.dcum1. How do we find these ladies and help them out?
It sounds like there are tons of amateurs and non-pros out there.
Home Grown12
05-21-15, 22:27
Read this about DC's cheating rates via ************* website:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2015/05/20/rich-d-c-residents-like-to-cheat-on-their-spouses-according-to-dating-web-site-for-cheating-spouses/
I stumbled on this site: http://www.dcurbanmom.com. Check out the "Sex and Relationships" forum: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/forums/show/43.page;jsessionid=6D50F7C095F95DC1449FB31293B5ACFC.dcum1. How do we find these ladies and help them out?
It sounds like there are tons of amateurs and non-pros out there.
Curious if anyone has ever tried the Pure hook-up site, and, if so, your results. I bumped into a guy last week at an LA strip club who told me he's hooked up several times. Your ad is up for an hour so it's for the spontaneous. I'm going to try it here in DC in the next week or so and thought I would ask here for any feedback. Thanks.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/07/01/visa-mastercard-stop-business-with-backpage/29558315/
Wow, they're making it more difficult for ads to be posted on Backpage. LEO has found a new angle.
Theunit611
07-15-15, 12:58
I'm having a small party Saturday, July 25 and some extremely attractive women are coming and offering a la carte menus that include everything my fellow mongers are interested in. Want details, pm me.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/07/01/visa-mastercard-stop-business-with-backpage/29558315/
Wow, they're making it more difficult for ads to be posted on Backpage. LEO has found a new angle.http://reason.com/blog/2015/07/07/backpagecom-stops-fees-for-adult-ads
Essentially telling LEO and the cc companies to f*ck off!
Have you heard of the new 'Honey, I lost the Car' Bill?
http://reason.com/blog/2015/07/15/honey-i-lost-the-car-when-cops-stole-it
Have you heard of the new 'Honey, I lost the Car' Bill?
http://reason.com/blog/2015/07/15/honey-i-lost-the-car-when-cops-stole-itThere's no way it'll pass, but still, it's shit like this that makes me glad I already know how to get where I'm going, or at the very least get to a place where I can then find out where I'm going. I know when I first moved here I drove slow late at night in some neighborhoods Jack Evans doesn't represent because I was just totally lost.
Not only is this a massive overreach into quasi-unconstitutional bounds, I feel for the innocent lost transplants or tourists who'd get their cars taken away from them a few blocks from Trinidad.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/13/dc-already-legalized-weed-is-prostitution-next/
ShortMan22
09-09-15, 22:16
Can anyone reccommend any hourly rate notel in the DC Area?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Seems like the hobby scene is moving up north. Seems like the posting in Baltimore are far better than DC. BP in DC is just overrun with fake asian ads.
In the words of Lebron "I'm going to take my talents to Baltimore".
HawkFish14
09-18-15, 20:15
Going to be in town tomorrow night and would like to have some fun if I can. BP seems to be full of nothing but fake asian ads. Whats the secret in DC? Looking for the younger, skinny type.
I am thinking about going ahead and TOFTT here, but before I do I thought I would check here to see if anyone else has any experience with this girl:
http://www.eros.com/washington_dc/files/597286.htm
If you google her e-mail address, you see some various other ads by her. Looks almost TGTBT really, young, attractive, fit, and reasonably priced. But I only can find two reviews for her (one sounds fake and the other is so-so), and the other red flag for me is there is no verification at all. Just show up at an in-call. I don't think this is a bust due to the various rules and it seems to have been running for a while, but I am more worried this is a show up and get rolled by some columbians or something.
Anyone have any feedback?
I am thinking about going ahead and TOFTT here, but before I do I thought I would check here to see if anyone else has any experience with this girl:
http://www.eros.com/washington_dc/files/597286.htm
If you google her e-mail address, you see some various other ads by her. Looks almost TGTBT really, young, attractive, fit, and reasonably priced. But I only can find two reviews for her (one sounds fake and the other is so-so), and the other red flag for me is there is no verification at all. Just show up at an in-call. I don't think this is a bust due to the various rules and it seems to have been running for a while, but I am more worried this is a show up and get rolled by some columbians or something.
Anyone have any feedback?A couple of more concerns:
1. Credit cards.
2. Not a member of any verification service.
3. No website of her own.
The tie-breaker for me is that I pass on any girl who asks for her level of donation and uses a raincoat for everything. DC has plenty of world-class providers with trustworthy track records. I personally would take a deep breath and pass.
A couple of more concerns:
1. Credit cards.
2. Not a member of any verification service.
3. No website of her own.
The tie-breaker for me is that I pass on any girl who asks for her level of donation and uses a raincoat for everything. DC has plenty of world-class providers with trustworthy track records. I personally would take a deep breath and pass.Yeah, I think you are right. I am going to submit myself to your wisdom and just ignore this one.
Thank you!
Home Grown12
10-28-15, 17:57
Fact of Fiction?
Read the story about BPage. Then place you vote!
https://storify.com/public/templates/card/index.html?src=//storify.com/yomike/a-wild-weekend-in-florida
https://storify.com/yomike/a-wild-weekend-in-florida
Crazy Jim Wood
11-18-15, 12:45
That's some funny shit. But I doubt it is real.
Fact of Fiction?
Read the story about BPage. Then place you vote!
https://storify.com/public/templates/card/index.html?src=//storify.com/yomike/a-wild-weekend-in-florida
https://storify.com/yomike/a-wild-weekend-in-florida.
I am thinking about going ahead and TOFTT here, but before I do I thought I would check here to see if anyone else has any experience with this girl:
http://www.eros.com/washington_dc/files/597286.htm
If you google her e-mail address, you see some various other ads by her. Looks almost TGTBT really, young, attractive, fit, and reasonably priced. But I only can find two reviews for her (one sounds fake and the other is so-so), and the other red flag for me is there is no verification at all. Just show up at an in-call. I don't think this is a bust due to the various rules and it seems to have been running for a while, but I am more worried this is a show up and get rolled by some columbians or something.
Anyone have any feedback?This is the first girl I saw when I got to DC last week. Read my post about her in the Ripoffs thread. Long story short, she will tell you one thing, then when you get there and she has your donation, she says all you get is a massage and a tug. Unless you pay more. Upsell scam artist. AVOID!
General Polling Question, DMV Mongers that have hunted outside the region (not overseas, because the US can't compare with other countries I. E. Brazil, Ghana, Thailand etc) which regions / cities would you rank in the top 5 in terms of volume and quality. From what I've heard it seems like ATL, NYC, Orlando / Tampa are kind of the hotspots this changing hobby. Any other places that might be secret gems? Work is going to have me all over the country and they are giving me flexibility in which areas I can set up shop from. Wouldn't mind a nice location where I can get some decent action.
General Polling Question, DMV Mongers that have hunted outside the region (not overseas, because the US can't compare with other countries I. E. Brazil, Ghana, Thailand etc) which regions / cities would you rank in the top 5 in terms of volume and quality. From what I've heard it seems like ATL, NYC, Orlando / Tampa are kind of the hotspots this changing hobby. Any other places that might be secret gems? Work is going to have me all over the country and they are giving me flexibility in which areas I can set up shop from. Wouldn't mind a nice location where I can get some decent action.My personal hobbying area picks:
Miami / Ft. Lauderdale / West Palm Beach.
Houston / Dallas.
Sacramento / East Bay / SFO.
LA / Long Beach / Orange County.
General Polling Question, DMV Mongers that have hunted outside the region (not overseas, because the US can't compare with other countries I. E. Brazil, Ghana, Thailand etc) which regions / cities would you rank in the top 5 in terms of volume and quality. From what I've heard it seems like ATL, NYC, Orlando / Tampa are kind of the hotspots this changing hobby. Any other places that might be secret gems? Work is going to have me all over the country and they are giving me flexibility in which areas I can set up shop from. Wouldn't mind a nice location where I can get some decent action.The Golden State brother. Both Northern California and Southern California. There is never a short supply of skirts. It's my favorite metro area (s) in the US for hobbying.
My personal hobbying area picks:
Miami / Ft. Lauderdale / West Palm Beach.
Houston / Dallas.
Sacramento / East Bay / SFO.
LA / Long Beach / Orange County.Of these places listed, do you know which is likely to have a greater volume of big booty providers. I know big booties are everywhere but I would expect some areas to be more prevalent than others I. E. (Atlanta vs. Boston etc).
Also, I didn't think Houston was that big for mongering, always seemed very limited to me.
Of these places listed, do you know which is likely to have a greater volume of big booty providers. I know big booties are everywhere but I would expect some areas to be more prevalent than others I. E. (Atlanta vs. Boston etc).
Also, I didn't think Houston was that big for mongering, always seemed very limited to me.I think for bigger booties you'd need to focus on areas with a higher concentration of AA and / or Latina providers. Maybe the best thing you can do is go to the BP ads for those areas and search using keywords like "booty" and "thick" and similar.
About Houston, my trips there have been full of nice provider experiences. It's not hard to find FS AMPs, for example, and quite a few hot latinas are usually available.
As far as value, SoFla and TX are probably better on price while the Greater SFO and SoCal areas may have more variety. Also important to remember that most of those areas are pretty spread out so a lot depends on where you choose to locate. Atlanta and Houston, for example, are huge metroplexes where it can be a real pain in the ass getting from one section to another.
Research on BP, the local forum boards and the oThER site should help you come up with some good choices. Good luck!
I think for bigger booties you'd need to focus on areas with a higher concentration of AA and / or Latina providers. Maybe the best thing you can do is go to the BP ads for those areas and search using keywords like "booty" and "thick" and similar.
About Houston, my trips there have been full of nice provider experiences. It's not hard to find FS AMPs, for example, and quite a few hot latinas are usually available.
As far as value, SoFla and TX are probably better on price while the Greater SFO and SoCal areas may have more variety. Also important to remember that most of those areas are pretty spread out so a lot depends on where you choose to locate. Atlanta and Houston, for example, are huge metroplexes where it can be a real pain in the ass getting from one section to another.
Research on BP, the local forum boards and the oThER site should help you come up with some good choices. Good luck!Seems like ATL might be the place for the hobby, both for volume and bigger booties. Only problem is the areas south of DC get really spread out. In DC I can hop around providers pretty quickly. Houston and ATL require alot of driving.
Never been out west so that will be a first.
Thanks for the info.
The Golden State brother. Both Northern California and Southern California. There is never a short supply of skirts. It's my favorite metro area (s) in the US for hobbying.Yet to hit the west coast. Any forums other than BP and the oThER site to check for reasonably priced providers? In DC I've been using the strip clubs to recruit UTRs.
The "video vigilante" strikes again in Oklahoma City, OK. This time he used a drone with a camera attached to videotape a man and woman inside a vehicle who were allegedly having sex for money. Then he turned over the tape to OKC police who have now charged the pair with the crime of performing a lewd act.
With the state's use of video captured by drones, there will be no such thing as privacy any more. And of course law enforcement and prosecutors will be using these video surveillance methods to seek and destroy the scourge of prostitution!
You can read it for yourself on this website:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com
As Tiny Tim said, "God bless us, every one!"
I will be coming to DC for a few days and will be staying on 16th St NW. I will not have a car. Are there any options in the area (SW, Escorts, Etc.)?
Any ideas or information will be appreciated.
There's always a few decent BP girls advertising in the Dupont Circle area. Also, a lot of the girls I've seen have told me that they do a lot of their business as outcalls. Not sure how cool I'd be with girl coming to my hotel but it may be worth a try. Best bet is to Uber or learn the Metro system and go into and Va. That's where many of the best girls (subjective opinion) advertise.
I will be coming to DC for a few days and will be staying on 16th St NW. I will not have a car. Are there any options in the area (SW, Escorts, Etc.)?
Any ideas or information will be appreciated.
ChiefQueef
12-24-15, 13:12
There's always a few decent BP girls advertising in the Dupont Circle area. Also, a lot of the girls I've seen have told me that they do a lot of their business as outcalls. Not sure how cool I'd be with girl coming to my hotel but it may be worth a try. Best bet is to Uber or learn the Metro system and go into and Va. That's where many of the best girls (subjective opinion) advertise.I'd like to add: try downtown silver spring; you'll find some quality providers there, and it's highly metro accessible. The prices will also be lower.
Good luck.
CQ.
I have been looking at the various Asian agencies and they all seem to give a price for GFE at say 220 then GFE+ for 260. Can someone enlighten me as to what the difference is (other than $40.) PM is fine if you have great details. Thanks.
The "video vigilante" strikes again in Oklahoma City, OK. This time he used a drone with a camera attached to videotape a man and woman inside a vehicle who were allegedly having sex for money. Then he turned over the tape to OKC police who have now charged the pair with the crime of performing a lewd act.
With the state's use of video captured by drones, there will be no such thing as privacy any more. And of course law enforcement and prosecutors will be using these video surveillance methods to seek and destroy the scourge of prostitution!
You can read it for yourself on this website:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com
As Tiny Tim said, "God bless us, every one!"Granted that this is Oklahoma, where the JohnTV guy is much more likely to find a sympathetic the and judge than, perhaps, California, there are still some interesting legal questions.
Did the lovely couple have any expectation of privacy out there behind the tires? (Probably not).
Did the drone operator violate any FAA or other rules about altitude, restricted airspace, or private property?
Does the legal definition of "lewd conduct" imply a reasonable probability of being seen? (Probably).
If the cops had done this, would they have needed a search warrant? I can't imagine a cop was in "hot pursuit" of them.
I noticed the charge was "lewd conduct" because the drone operator couldn't prove that money was exchanged for sexual favors.
FYI, search on "Oklahoma City" in thesmokinggun.com website and the article comes right up.
Alexandria2016
02-09-16, 01:21
I just chatted with a 40 year old stripper I met through a sugar daddy website. She proposed meeting at her place for a one hour session for $$. Trying to negotiate down to $. 5. Main question for the experienced members here, should I have sex with a stripper? Don't want to stick my the* in crazy or have a run-in with crazy boyfriends or exes. Of course I will use protection but I'm mainly concerned whether an encounter at her place is worth the potential risks.
Horsetrader
02-09-16, 16:19
I just chatted with a 40 year old stripper I met through a sugar daddy website. She proposed meeting at her place for a one hour session for $$. Trying to negotiate down to $. 5. Main question for the experienced members here, should I have sex with a stripper? Don't want to stick my the* in crazy or have a run-in with crazy boyfriends or exes. Of course I will use protection but I'm mainly concerned whether an encounter at her place is worth the potential risks.Even when you meet her through a sugar daddy website, it is still mongering and all risks apply. With incalls, you risk being on her turf. With outcalls, you risk cash and dash. That is just the start of the concerns. Only you can weigh the potential risks and rewards.
Bunker Buster
02-09-16, 17:14
I just chatted with a 40 year old stripper I met through a sugar daddy website. She proposed meeting at her place for a one hour session for $$. Trying to negotiate down to $. 5. Main question for the experienced members here, should I have sex with a stripper? Don't want to stick my the* in crazy or have a run-in with crazy boyfriends or exes. Of course I will use protection but I'm mainly concerned whether an encounter at her place is worth the potential risks.As a 40 year old stripper? Was she a stripper 15 years ago, and now a broken-down drunk?
For $$, you should be able to get action with someone younger than her.
Have you verified anything about her? What kind of neighborhood does she live in? Has she been on the SD site for a while, or did she just start posting? All of these questions help you form a picture of whether she's reliable, or if she just dipped her fishing rod into the pond to pull out a sucker for a quick hit.
If you go to her place, bring the $$ and no more. Lock your license in the car, and leave the rest of your credit cards at home. If there is a ripoff, minimize your losses.
If you're meeting in her house, the likelihood of a rip off is lower, because most people aren't dumb enough to pull a stunt and stay in place for the police to show up. The SD meetings are on the border of legal, so you could theoretically report a robbery when you went to her house to meet and "explore" a Sugar Daddy relationship, although a $$ loss is best written off to avoid the legal entanglement.
Dazed Diplomat
09-11-16, 07:02
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/massive-dc-swingers-bash-tickets-27568934425
I moved out of the area but I saw this. I wonder. I might want to drive down from the Philly area for this sort of thing. Anyone know anything?
Miketastic69
10-07-16, 11:51
For those who may have known Lex, there is a report on the Baltimore Boards that he passed away. RIP my friend!
Hello, is there anyone that can direct me to were to look or post for assistance on finding safe entertainment arothat I am staying? I am staying in Arlington VA near the Ballston Mall. Any help from fellow senior members would be greatly appreciated. Also are there any nearby Adult store / Theater or strip clubs near to my area? That are safe forund the area a white boy LOL. Thanks!
Please message me if you can so I get the notification.
Sorry I posted this in a couple spots to make sure I get a reply while I am in town. Thank You again for any info!!
Hello, is there anyone that can direct me to were to look or post for assistance on finding safe entertainment arothat I am staying? I am staying in Arlington VA near the Ballston Mall. Any help from fellow senior members would be greatly appreciated. Also are there any nearby Adult store / Theater or strip clubs near to my area? That are safe forund the area a white boy LOL. Thanks!
Please message me if you can so I get the notification.
Sorry I posted this in a couple spots to make sure I get a reply while I am in town. Thank You again for any info!!It's understandable you'd post on the DC board since, unless you're from here, the different hobby areas are not immediately obvious. If you go to the Northern Virginia forum you'll be able to search there using keywords like Ballston, Arlington, etc. And you should also check out the Northern Virginia sections of sites like Backpage and Eros.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?713-Northern-Virginia
Also, you didn't say if you'll have access to a car but, since Ballston is directly on the Orange line of the Metro, you can get around very easily to most of the DC area. That means you can also check out what's available anywhere close to a Metro station. But if you go that route there are repair operations affecting service. Check out the links below for more info. Also, some Metro stations are more walking accessible than others. For example, the Franconia-Springfield station is in the middle of a lot of stuff but it's set up more for cars, buses, taxis, Uber, etc. Trying to walk from that station to any nearby massage place is a bit of a hike. So make sure to use maps and street view to check out any areas of interest.
http://www.wmata.com/rail/maps/map.cfm
http://www.wmata.com/rail/safetrack.cfm
One final note about Ballston: it's a pretty upscale, gentrified area so I'm not aware of any public adult establishments in that immediate area. But other forum members may have better info about that.
Happy hunting, good luck and don't forget to post any nice dreams in the forum.
Respect4, I completely agree with the advice from JmSuttr. I've added a post over in the Northern VA forum.
Miketastic69
10-29-16, 00:16
I get distrracted everytime I am at home and see her. She is fine. I got up to $1 K for her when I find out who she is and if she's a provider somewhere. Please gents, if you know who she is please let me know.
Guys -- It seems like BBFS threads in one form or another are popping up in various city forums. I won't be judgmental one way or the other, but I'm curious if folks think there's a need for a similar forum on the DC board? (I will also ask in the other DMV boards.) I didn't want to start one if there's no interest.
TheBarbarian
11-14-16, 13:18
Guys -- It seems like BBFS threads in one form or another are popping up in various city forums. I wfon't be judgmental one way or the other, but I'm curious if folks think there's a need for a similar forum on the DC board? (I will also ask in the other DMV boards.) I didn't want to start one if there's no interest.Accurate information flow it what's important. Some are hunting for BBFS while some want to make informed decisions- that's why it's needed. Just my. 2 cent.
Guys -- It seems like BBFS threads in one form or another are popping up in various city forums. I won't be judgmental one way or the other, but I'm curious if folks think there's a need for a similar forum on the DC board? (I will also ask in the other DMV boards.) I didn't want to start one if there's no interest.Yes, I would like to be informed on who does this. Me personally I don't partake in BBFS, but it will be helpful to know who to avoid.
For others it who like BBFS then it would be good to show this.
Foolaround2
01-22-17, 21:35
Heading down to Walter Reed from central PA. Any recommended Asian / Korean / Chinese NURU options available? Feel free to PM in preferred. Thank you.
WillBarnes
02-25-17, 15:34
Hello fellow mongers. I'll be in DC from Mar 2nd to March 6th. I'm staying in the city, about 5 blocks north of Metro Central. Just wondering what is available around that area. I will probably be renting a car on Friday, but just wondering what there is in the city, on the off chance I'm on foot / metro / bus. I'm interested in SWs, AMPs and escorts.
Thanks and Cheers. WB.
John in VA
02-25-17, 21:00
Hello fellow mongers. I'll be in DC from Mar 2nd to March 6th. I'm staying in the city, about 5 blocks north of Metro Central. Just wondering what is available around that area. I will probably be renting a car on Friday, but just wondering what there is in the city, on the off chance I'm on foot / metro / bus. I'm interested in SWs, AMPs and escorts.
Thanks and Cheers. WB.Clear your mailbox out a bit.
WillBarnes
02-27-17, 14:51
Clear your mailbox out a bit.Its cleared out now. Thanks.
Would you do Kellyann Conway? https:// tiny url dot com "back slash" jtbwo4w
I'll hold off on my own opinion to hear from others first.
Stealth Mode
03-02-17, 16:38
Would you do Kellyann Conway? https:// tiny url dot com "back slash" jtbwo4w
I'll hold off on my own opinion to hear from others first.She has this slutty way about her. I would love to stick my dick in her mouth and bang her out.
ScottsMan17
03-03-17, 16:26
Hey DC mongers, I will be up there next week. I am looking for an Asian in-call. PM me with good ones if you would Thanks in advance.
Sarcastic King
03-22-17, 21:01
Hey guys. I need a head doctor in DC for qv. Any suggestions?
Pm me if LEO is heavy here. Thanks.
BMoreRocky
04-22-17, 14:44
Had an encounter with a lovely young dark skinned lady. She's thin, athletic, nipple rings smells wonderful and is probably only available for a limited time.
CBJ, covered full service. Outcalls. Silver Spring, MD incalls.
PM me for info.
RonSwanson
07-23-17, 03:43
I just moved to the DC area and am having a hell of a time getting connected with any of the Asian agencies. I have P411 and have used ECCIE and TER but I can't get any of the agencies to reply a text or email. I've tried Butterfly Legend, Club Paradise, Discreet Story, Happy Together, and Lotus Flowerz.
Do you have any tips to tricks to get involved?
Paragon007
07-25-17, 06:24
Hello fellow mongers.
I'll be visiting until Friday this week on business. I won't have a rental (so I'll be on foot). Is there any action near that area. PM for any intel.
Thanks in advance!
Hello fellow mongers.
I'll be visiting until Friday this week on business. I won't have a rental (so I'll be on foot). Is there any action near that area. PM for any intel.
Thanks in advance!Alexandria is rather spread out so hard to help without narrowing it down a bit. Also, the Northern Virginia forum is the better place to ask. And the Metro system runs through parts of Alexandria so you might be within walking distance or a short cab or Uber ride away from a stop. If that's the case, you'll have access to most of DC and the surrounding areas of VA and MD. Check the map at www.wmata.com for details.
It's a sad day. I just found out that the ridiculously sexy Cameron Skye is taking a leave from the business. I hope she comes back to the game, but it looks like she's starting a new chapter in her life. I'm so sad. She was one of the pricier BP providers, but she was well worth it.
Sammy.
TravelFun69
07-26-17, 18:35
Looking for a UTR in Southern Anne Arundel or Northern Calvert. If anyone knows of someone in those areas PM me so the details are not out for LE to see.
Cross posting in relevant boards.
Mongers, this game has trash and gems and everything in between.
Sometimes the gems fall victim to the constructs of others who for whatever reason believe that personal choices about who we fuck and why are deemed worthy of being deprived of basic freedoms. Everyone who breaks the law does so knowing that consequences could follow their actions. Even when those consequences seem dire the will to move forward is critical to the well being of ourselves and our communities.
That said, a gem has fallen victim to those contructs. Well reviewed, liked by most, never a bad word about others from her mouth. But this gem is despondent and feeling as tho this is the end of the line, and she needs the support of a community. Details are not posted here, please PM if you'd care to help. It's not about getting her funds to hire a lawyer, tho I'm sure that would help. Just a text or a call to say, 'it's going to be ok' will go a long way.
Thanks to any that offer even a prayer.
CC.
Password1977
10-02-17, 01:39
Any recommendations? I like mature. Older ladies 50's 60's shit 80's are fun too, if ya can find them. Big tits, black, white whatever. If anyone has a good contact, please let me know. Pregnant girls are fun too. Hope I didn't over step myself. Ever in Nashville, let me know, I'll get you right, and keep you out of trouble!! Peace PW out!
Ps I'm in DC areas...like by Adams morgan...if that means anything.
Miketastic69
10-02-17, 02:14
Any recommendations? I like mature. Older ladies 50's 60's shit 80's are fun too, if ya can find them. Big tits, black, white whatever. If anyone has a good contact, please let me know. Pregnant girls are fun too. Hope I didn't over step myself. Ever in Nashville, let me know, I'll get you right, and keep you out of trouble!! Peace PW out!
Ps I'm in DC areas...like by Adams morgan...if that means anything.Non-FS Nalee is the best massage and BBBJ in the area. She is over 50 and Thai. Looks younger. Nice rack.
PG County Maryland is the place to go for AMPs. Zasu Knight is a retired pornstar that has very nice tits and kisses like a high school homecoming date. If you let me know specifics I can runs down my chick-tionary for you.
Password1977
10-02-17, 11:48
Non-FS Nalee is the best massage and BBBJ in the area. She is over 50 and Thai. Looks younger. Nice rack.
PG County Maryland is the place to go for AMPs. Zasu Knight is a retired pornstar that has very nice tits and kisses like a high school homecoming date. If you let me know specifics I can runs down my chick-tionary for you.Thanks very much!. I'd love older FS. But I may check out Nalee if I can't find her info.
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