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Member #3947
03-06-06, 22:34
Check out this article.

Daplush Man

Area Juvenile Sex Rings Targeted Using Anti-Trafficking Laws

By Debbi Wilgoren

The teenagers testified for hour after agonizing hour about their months of prostitution, quietly describing the tricks they turned on some of the District's and Maryland's seediest strips.

To view the entire article, go to http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/05/AR2006030501126.html?referrer=emailarticle

Sweet Pea
03-06-06, 22:53
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/05/ar2006030501126.html

area juvenile sex rings targeted using anti-trafficking laws

by debbi wilgoren
washington post staff writer
monday, march 6, 2006; a01

the teenagers testified for hour after agonizing hour about their months of prostitution, quietly describing the tricks they turned on some of the district's and maryland's seediest strips.

they performed sex acts with men in cheap motel rooms, alleys and the back seats of cars, they said. clients had 10 minutes or it cost extra. one girl, 14 when she was recruited, said her quota was $500 a night, with various sex acts ranging in price from $50 to $150. every dollar she and her "stable sisters" earned, she said, was turned over to the sometimes loving, often brutal man they were told to call "daddy."

that man, jaron r. brice, 27, of northeast washington, was convicted last week of sex trafficking of a minor, transporting prostitutes across state lines, pandering and child sexual abuse -- a litany of federal charges that probably will land him in prison for decades.

the five-day trial, at the federal courthouse in washington, included lengthy testimony from three young women who described in sober, graphic detail the life they were introduced to through brice. they met brice at parties or through friends, and with his instruction and encouragement soon were trolling for "dates" outside motels in the district, silver spring and capitol heights; through an x-rated phone chat line; and, for repeat customers, via cell phones.

the activities came to light after investigations by the district's human trafficking task force and the u.s. justice department's innocence lost initiative, separate efforts that target pimps accused of using violence and preying on girls. innocence lost, which is concentrated in 14 u.s. cities, has launched 140 investigations resulting in convictions of at least 68 pimps. the d.c. task force has initiated more than 30 investigations and has won 17 convictions.

both efforts make use of federal anti-trafficking laws -- passed by congress in 2000 and reauthorized this year -- that offer tools for prosecuting pimps and stiffer penalties for those convicted than local statues would have allowed. the first pimp tried in the district under the federal statute, carlos curtis, will be sentenced march 17. he could face life in prison for prostituting a 12-year-old runaway he recruited from new york and a 17-year-old he brought to the district from maryland.

starting this year, the laws will also offer money for programs to steer young women and girls away from prostitution in the united states and abroad.

the legislation, supported by a coalition of liberal and conservative groups, addresses foreign and domestic sex trafficking. in the district, the victims of those charged with trafficking have been u.s.-born -- girls and young women from urban, suburban and rural areas, many of them runaways, all of them searching for security, stability and love.

"we talked about having sex for money. paying him. being happy," testified one girl, who was 14 and living in prince george's county when she met brice in march 2004.

"you'll have everything you want, and i'll take care of you," the girl recalled brice telling her. then he drove her to a silver spring travelodge with a veteran prostitute and another **** recruit. brice had sex with the three of them, testified the girl, whose name is being withheld by the washington post because she is a minor and a victim of a sex crime.

over the next day or so, the new girls were outfitted with short shorts and revealing tops and taught to apply heavy make-up. they sat in the back seat of brice's purple chevrolet caprice to watch a video that laid out the rules and jargon of what she and the others learned to call "the game":

call your pimp "daddy." walk behind him, keeping your gaze down.

never speak to or look at another pimp.

get the money in advance.

obey your pimp's "bottom" -- the prostitute he trusts most. she and the other prostitutes who work for your pimp are your "sisters." all of you make up a "stable." along with the pimp, you are a "family."

similar language and hierarchies are used across the country by pimps who recruit and coerce girls and young women, said lois lee, a los angeles-based advocate who runs shelters for former prostitutes and testified as an expert witness for the prosecution. sex traffickers focus on emotionally troubled targets, she said, such as girls who have been sexually abused.

"they love their pimp, and they believe their pimp, and they believe that if they keep doing this, eventually the pimp will buy them a home and he'll have a baby with them -- what everybody wants," she testified.

prosecutors said runaways and other vulnerable girls make up a significant portion of the district's prostitute population. authorities said that about 30 prostitutes who are known to be juveniles are arrested each year for soliciting in the district, but they added that many more prostitutes who are arrested lie about their ages or have false ids that say they are at least 18.

brice was prosecuted by assistant u.s. attorney sharon marcus-kurn and justice department trial attorney myesha braden, in cooperation with the myriad law-enforcement agencies and social service and advocacy groups that are part of the d.c. task force and innocence lost. the groups share information and forge strategies for building cases against violent pimps, with the nonprofit organizations helping find and draw out traumatized, often wary prostitutes whose testimony is crucial but who might still be seeking their pimps' affection and approval.

advocates helped reassure the teenagers who testified against brice, who looked on from the gallery in the courtroom of u.s. district judge rosemary m. collyer. they ensured the girls had tissues and pink rubber balls -- decorated with smiley faces -- they could squeeze to relieve stress.

"the more you work with this population, the better you get at learning how to reach them, and how to help them get away from the man who's been abusing them," marcus-kurn said. "it's like a cult. we as a community . . . are called upon to try and hear what the victim is not saying or cannot say or is told not to say."

those who defend alleged pimps often argue that the women were not forced to prostitute -- but that strategy applies only when the prostitutes are 18 or older. trafficking of a minor, even without coercion, is a felony that carries a maximum sentence of 40 years. defendants charged with pandering -- essentially managing adult prostitutes without coercion -- face far less serious penalties; for example, dontae reed, who pleaded guilty in d.c. superior court in january to running a two-prostitute ring, was sentenced thursday to 36 months in prison.

in brice's case, the jury of eight women and four men found him not guilty of coercing a 19-year-old prostitute, apparently rejecting testimony that he beat and threatened her. but the jury, after deliberating for three hours, declared brice guilty of trafficking and sexually abusing the 14-year-old.

marcus-kurn said testimony from the older prostitute bolstered the charges involving the girl. bringing the case in federal court, she said, also allowed the government to charge brice with transporting the minor and the adult teenager across state lines for prostitution, charges for which he was found guilty.

shawn moore, the federal public defender who represented brice, said after the trial that use of the federal statutes could be seen as excessive, especially because brice could have been tried in superior court only in connection with the younger prostitute and still would have faced hefty penalties.

"it's like using a hammer on an ant," moore said. "just because you have jurisdiction doesn't mean that you have to utilize it all the time."

brice will be sentenced may 11. he did not take the stand during the trial, and his attorneys did not call witnesses.

the former prostitutes said they walked the streets all night, in all weather -- outside motels; downtown at 14th and k streets nw, once the city's premiere red-light district; and near eastern and minnesota avenues ne. they told of a private bar known as clicks on the second floor of a building in the 1400 block of l street nw, where sex acts took place behind a curtain in the vip room. wes dimov, the proprietor, pleaded guilty feb. 25 in a separate case to operating a bawdy house, a misdemeanor.

brice took the 14-year-old to prostitute in new york and atlantic city, the girl said at trial, and traveled with the 19-year-old to miami, where they worked the south beach strip.

the younger prostitute, a runaway, said she helped recruit the older teenager -- who had just graduated from high school in southern maryland -- during summer 2004. several weeks later, the girl testified, brice began showing the other prostitute more attention. he beat the girl when she complained.

"why did you end up staying?" marcus-kurn asked gently, as the girl, now 16, sat in the witness chair and squeezed her pink ball.

"because he said he loved me."

"and how did that make you feel?"

"special."

both teenagers have received support, including counseling, from agencies linked to the task force. they are off the streets and trying to restart their lives.

in her closing argument, marcus-kurn told the jury that the former prostitutes had not seen each other in more than a year and that they were rivals rather than friends. yet their descriptions of life with brice matched almost exactly, marcus-kurn said: the codelike language, brice's tattoos and the promises he made but never kept.

"the defendant had no intention of loving or protecting them," the prosecutor said. "the only thing the defendant was interested in was the money and the life and the control.

"he was their daddy, and he liked that status."

Member #4338
03-07-06, 14:01
Spotsylvania Suspends Tactic in Sex Stings
By Karin Brulliard
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, February 18, 2006; B01
Citing public pressure, Spotsylvania County's sheriff said yesterday that he has suspended the practice of allowing detectives to receive sexual services during prostitution investigations, a technique that brought the quiet Virginia exurb attention from across the nation and around the world.
"As Sheriff, I understand the feelings and concerns the citizens of this county have expressed," Sheriff Howard D. Smith said in a statement. "And I empathize with those feelings."

Four days after the county's tactics were reported in The Washington Post, Smith said "the public's expressed response," which he did not characterize, persuaded him to curtail the investigative approach while his staff reviews it and prepares a report with recommendations.

Spotsylvania detectives on assignment to crack down on prostitution in county massage parlors visited Moon Spa three times in January and paid for massages, baths and sexual acts on four occasions, court documents show. On one occasion, they left a $350 tip, records show. (Lax Comment: Must have been one hell of a session :D However, these stupid MF’s are driving up the costs of conducting investigations by over paying. I can only hope they did not venture into DC. Lax is committed to doing the most thorough investigation at the least possible cost.)

Smith and William F. Neely, the county's top prosecutor, said the sexual acts were necessary because the masseuses had poor English skills and would have been unable to make clearly spoken offers of sex for money. Such offers and evidence that more than touching occurred are needed to make a case under Virginia law, they said. Only unmarried detectives were assigned to the cases, Smith said.

The sheriff's suspension of the practice was applauded by Henry "Hap" Connors Jr., chairman of the county's Board of Supervisors. Connors, who had asked Smith to stop the practice, said he hopes detectives will now employ "more appropriate" means of investigating prostitution.
"I think the sheriff has made the right decision in suspending and putting an end to these tactics," Connors said yesterday. "I respect the job that he's doing but just disagree with these tactics."

Several legal and police experts said few, if any, law enforcement agencies allow sexual contact in prostitution investigations." (Lax Comment: Fortunately for the mogering public at large, there are still a few of us that continue to go where we need to go and do what needs to be done to get the intel. )

Peace and love,
Lax

Muff Scout
03-07-06, 15:38
Spotsylvania Suspends Tactic in Sex Stings
By Karin Brulliard
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, February 18, 2006; B01
Citing public pressure, Spotsylvania County's sheriff said yesterday that he has suspended the practice of allowing detectives to receive sexual services during prostitution investigations

Damn, another job perk gone.

Civil service just isn't what it used to be:)

Muff Scout

VanDriver
03-07-06, 19:06
This afternoon I made my way down to a Sunny area to see what was going on in April. She is a very small, yet shapely bottomed, provider. She had large As (Ha HA) or very small Bs with a not-so-trimmed area.

All the normal stuff, etc. TS, no AR (just tease), and the damn massage went on WAY TO LONG! I was almost scared that that would be all I would get, even though they knew I was long time customer (as outlined on my filled VIP card).

She is new, but worked her ass off in the >1hour I was in there.

She is a trooper but I am not sure if I will repeat.

Seniors may PM for details.

Dick North
03-15-06, 21:00
Hi all,

I am planning to visit DC in a few weeks and was wondering if there are any massage places that have mostly asian women where one might be able to get a few 'extras' if you know what I mean (hee hee)

Alright, I'm just KIDDING!

Seriously, I will be staying in the 'loop' area and am very excited about my visit as I am acutely afflicted with 'mongeritis'. After arriving I plan to immediately visit Coco at Sun (I hope she will be there!). I've never had a B2B TS and after reading all of the reports, I simply can't take it anymore. Have to see that girl!

Any current info would be much appreciated. It seems as though several mongers recently have decided against a Sun visit because of some MCI activity.

I will plan to visit several amps while I'm there and at least one outcall service if my situation permits and report all activities to the board. I would also plan to troll the loop (situation permitting) for sw's even tho I'm not sure how you can get them past hotel security.

I would love to meet some of the DC RT guys especially my mentors LoveLos and LoopVet. I would probably be out of place tho as I am sure that all of the members of the DC RT are 25-30ish guys with sculpted physiques and looking like they just stepped out of 'GQ magazine'.

Anyway, be safe all

PS: LL & LoopVet ... I will pm my info shortly.

Dave GD
03-16-06, 20:21
USGers,

I was out on a rare week day night (it is actually rare any night), did a loop around town and didn't see much, so drove by Club T, found some easy parking and went in.

I didn't realize how long it had been since I had been there, it is completely remodeled since I was there. There is actually room to sit and walk around, and there are actual bathrooms now on the same floor as the bar, lol.

Well, it was a weekday, so the place was empty, except for a couple of guys, and a bartender that the owner kept on chewing out. I asked the owner about the remodeling and he went on and described how he is expanding downstairs, next door, etc.

I had been talking to this girl that actually knows the owner, and he calls her on occassion. That was really a weird conversation, as to how each of us had come to know club T.

Davegdb

LoveLOS
03-18-06, 18:50
I would love to meet some of the DC RT guys especially my mentors LoveLos and LoopVet. I would probably be out of place tho as I am sure that all of the members of the DC RT are 25-30ish guys with sculpted physiques and looking like they just stepped out of 'GQ magazine'. Gee, that is a damn good description of us, wouldn't you say BW? :p

DN, shoot me those dates, maybe we can line something up. Click on over to escort reviews for the one I just did. :eek: That'll give you another one to lust after...

LL

Dave, is the new name something official? I hadn't heard of the bar to which you refer being called Club T before.

Dave GD
03-19-06, 21:44
No, I just didn't know what all the initials for TBWNN stood for? I figured anyone who had been there would know what I was talking about.



Dave, is the new name something official? I hadn't heard of the bar to which you refer being called Club T before.

Loop Vet
03-26-06, 11:41
Arrived back in town the other night after a long week and a half and slept until almost noon yesterday, awoke by a call from my new ex-loopette-turned-dancer gf. (dont ask, but I'm running with it for now). Took a shower and began to get ready for a day of errands. I'm halfway dressed when I hear a knock at my front window. Open the front door and standing there is a cutie I knew for about two weeks a couple of years ago, wearing her typical small hoodie tee (hood up), a short, black winter jacket, and filling out her jeans nicely, being a little thicker than before.

It's interesting because I've thought about this girl from time to time, recently as a matter of fact, wondering what ever happened to her because she was a sweetie, not a loopette, and took it in the ass the first time I met her. Saw her maybe 5 or so times in two weeks, back in my heyday, but then lost touch and never saw, or heard from, her again.

So she shows up today looking good; the added 10 or so lbs doing her justice (bringing her to about 5'6" and an on-the-spot scale reading of 125), and skin looking beautiful and soft. Said she had moved to NY but then moved back to DC three weeks ago. Apparently she stopped by the lair at that time, but it was empty. She agreed to help run my errands as she needed to do a couple of her own.

I'll leave out the details of our first errand, but it featured one of those Monger-life meets Real-Life encounters. Not too horribly uncomfortable but someting I'd of prefered not to have happened. She introduced herself as Baby K when prompted. lol. The K does represent her actual first name.

Then we head over to her neighborhood corner store so she could pick up a cell phone and some minutes. We passed her two younger sisters, 15 and 16, just down the block from the store. As K was in the store and I'm waiting in the car, her sisters stroll up the block, mill outside the store, and run into Baby K as she came out with her phone and some drinks and snacks. They said hello in daily fashion, Baby K gave one of them 20 bucks without provocation (to sis's delight), then she headed back to the car with a wave good-bye.

As we drove away she had trouble getting the charger hooked to the phone, as did I, so we went back to the store to see what was up. Her sisters were still milling around across the street and came over when Baby K came back out from the store. They asked for a ride down to Union Station, figuring they might catch a movie, so I obliged. The sixteen-year-old looked like a young Baby K. They we very polite on the 5 minute ride and appreciative when I dropped them off.

K let me know she had no plans for the day so we made a couple more stops before heading back to my place. My new gf called as we were hanging out, so Baby K decided to go down on me while I chit-chat with the little lady. I had to hang up the phone before she took my entire load in her mouth - followed by a spit in the bathroom.

I dropped her off around 6pm but not before picking up some Mickey D's; fries for her and chicken strips for me.

Strange but unexpectantly pleasant day.

Loop Vet
Mastering the art of mongering without mongering

Tipster
03-26-06, 19:32
No, I just didn't know what all the initials for TBWNN stood for? I figured anyone who had been there would know what I was talking about.Does The Bar With No Name click your memory?

Big White
04-02-06, 22:45
Then we head over to her neighborhood corner store so she could pick up a cell phone and some minutes. We passed her two younger sisters, 15 and 16, just down the block from the store. As K was in the store and I'm waiting in the car, her sisters stroll up the block, mill outside the store, and run into Baby K as she came out with her phone and some drinks and snacks. They said hello in daily fashion, Baby K gave one of them 20 bucks without provocation (to sis's delight), then she headed back to the car with a wave good-bye.


Based on LV’s recommendation, I met Baby J this weekend for some chocolate city lovin’. I had seen a cell phone picture of her, and although she seemed to have a nice body, I wasn’t expecting the smokin’ lady that I met right outside of the Whitelair. Baby J came over, dressed in jeans that accent her fine, phat ass, with a tight pink sweater, and matching pink sunglasses. She was definitely turning heads as she walked across the street towards me.

Once inside the lair, what impressed me the most was Baby J’s attitude. She was ready for anything, and wanted to have a good time. We talked for a bit, while I took her looks in again. Smooth skin, nice smile, very well put together, and friendly.

On to the main event, the sex was right up there. No details necessary, except she doesn’t disappoint. I plan to place her in regular rotation having recently shuttled some of the stable that became too demanding and high on the drama factor.

When I was driving Baby J back home, we actually pulled side by side with her mom in another car. They talked through the window while we waited for the light, and then on the cell together after that. The mom wanted to know who is was. To tell the truth, if I could have the choice between Baby J and the mom, I just might want to tap the mom. She looked really fine for a middle age woman. Based on those genes, Baby J will definitely also be looking fine for a long time. So, while LV met the sisters, I got to meet the mom...lol

Trusted members and seniors, contact me or LV backchannel for info.

Face: 8 nice smile
Body 8.5 young and smooth skin
Attitude 9 Everything is open for discussion

Sosuaking
04-26-06, 21:21
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Sun (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=701%206th%20Street%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Sun%20Club%20%5Bfaces%206th%20street%5D%29)
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Royal (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=520%2010th%20St%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Royal%20Spa%29)
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Happiness (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=524%2010th%20St%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Happiness%20Spa%29)
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Young's/2352 (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=2352%20Wisconsin%20Ave%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Young%27s/2352%20Spa%29)
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Boss/Castle (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=1716%20I%20Street%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Boss/Castle%20Spa%29)
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Gold (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=2318%2018th%20St%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Gold%20Spa%29)
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Also for those of you who need landmarks and the like, try searching for the addresses here A9 BlockView / StreetLevel Maps (http://a9.com/-/company/YellowPages.jsp)
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Enjoy fellas.

Odysseus 46
04-27-06, 07:11
For us out-of-towners, the maps are a very big help. Hope they don't backfire.

O 46

VanDriver
04-27-06, 09:00
Maps to local spas

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1018 Vermont Ave NW

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3520 Connecticut Ave NW

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Sun (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=701%206th%20Street%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Sun%20Club%20%5Bfaces%206th%20street%5D%29)
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1829 M Street NW

Royal (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=520%2010th%20St%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Royal%20Spa%29)
520 10th St NW

Happiness (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=524%2010th%20St%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Happiness%20Spa%29)
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ICM (not asian) (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=1829%20M%20Street%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28ICM%20%5B2nd%20Floor%5D%5Bnot-asian%5D%29)
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Young's/2352 (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=2352%20Wisconsin%20Ave%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Young%27s/2352%20Spa%29)
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1716 I Street NW

Gold (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=2318%2018th%20St%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Gold%20Spa%29)
2318 18th St NW


Also for those of you who need landmarks and the like, try searching for the addresses here A9 BlockView / StreetLevel Maps (http://a9.com/-/company/YellowPages.jsp)
You can get pictures of the street and buildings in the area to help you find your way. Like this one of Downtown (http://images-yp.amazon.com/ImageServer/view/j_dX-YUVOIXKttPw9Y96BAJzPhr1RHzJb-u_bHE-XFRRQlA98OZzXskz8LEyLdP2LDs4ovPjbm_GCsz0II-mNjf5Z_HbLSqvnpFUMZzyvMc8wdcAPPLp8RP3ATxwZhwEx75mrKQehXmErEWd7mUFjQ==)

Enjoy fellas.

I've got to give it to you. Performing such a deed is very impressive. Great job!

DcDonkey
04-27-06, 10:36
Does The Bar With No Name click your memory?
Dude! You've lurking around here for quite a while haven't you?

Tipster
05-05-06, 23:26
Dude! You've lurking around here for quite a while haven't you?My most memorable experience was at Club W (entered from the back east side of Wisconsin Ave, NW) with a Catholic college student who could not get enough. Alas, that was long before this forum came into existence.

Tipster.

Paland
05-06-06, 20:39
I'm thinking about riding down to DC for one or two days during Memorial weekend for the Rolling Thunder. With all the influx of people and bikes for the holiday weekend hitting DC what the chances for getting some street action?

With an education on sw action in DC from the Great One a few years ago, I have enjoyed the post midnight strolls of K and L streets in the past but its been a while and was hoping that some repeat was on the menu during that weekend.

p-dick

Member #2652
05-07-06, 08:23
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4th floor
1018 Vermont Ave NW

IHC/Mini Health Club/1818 (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=1818%20new%20york%20Ave%20NE%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28IHC/Mini%20Health%20Club/1818%29)
1818 NY Ave NE

CPHC (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=3520%20Connecticut%20Ave%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28CPHC%29)
3520 Connecticut Ave NW

Sky (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=1413%20K%20St%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%281413/Sky%20Spa%20%5Bin%20the%20basement%5D%29)
1413 K St NW

Sun (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=701%206th%20Street%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Sun%20Club%20%5Bfaces%206th%20street%5D%29)
701 6th Street NW

Supra (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=1333%20Connecticut%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Supra%20%5B4th%20floor%5D%29)
1333 Connecticut NW

Therapy @ M (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=1829%20M%20Street%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Therapy%20@%20M%20St%20%5B3rd%20Floor%5D%29)
1829 M Street NW

Royal (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=520%2010th%20St%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Royal%20Spa%29)
520 10th St NW

Happiness (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=524%2010th%20St%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Happiness%20Spa%29)
524 10th St NW

ICM (not asian) (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=1829%20M%20Street%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28ICM%20%5B2nd%20Floor%5D%5Bnot-asian%5D%29)
1829 M Street NW

Young's/2352 (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=2352%20Wisconsin%20Ave%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Young%27s/2352%20Spa%29)
2352 Wisconsin Ave NW

Boss/Castle (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=1716%20I%20Street%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Boss/Castle%20Spa%29)
1716 I Street NW

Gold (maps.google.com/?sourceid=navclient&q=2318%2018th%20St%20NW%2Cwashington%2Cdc%28Gold%20Spa%29)
2318 18th St NW


Also for those of you who need landmarks and the like, try searching for the addresses here A9 BlockView / StreetLevel Maps (http://a9.com/-/company/YellowPages.jsp)
You can get pictures of the street and buildings in the area to help you find your way. Like this one of Downtown (http://images-yp.amazon.com/ImageServer/view/j_dX-YUVOIXKttPw9Y96BAJzPhr1RHzJb-u_bHE-XFRRQlA98OZzXskz8LEyLdP2LDs4ovPjbm_GCsz0II-mNjf5Z_HbLSqvnpFUMZzyvMc8wdcAPPLp8RP3ATxwZhwEx75mrKQehXmErEWd7mUFjQ==)

Enjoy fellas.Sosuaking,

Thanks for the great idea to link the AMPs with the maps. For us out of towners this is a great service. I hope Jackson makes you senior for this very innovative idea. Keep up the good work.

Member #2652

Loop Vet
05-07-06, 12:34
Paland, who knows what that weekend will bring. As reported, things haven't been the same around here recently. Granted, you can pretty much always find something somewhere, that's a given (or at least I can :)), but it's not like before when there were tons of girls on any given night.

BW and I have both talked to some in-the-knows who say things should be picking up. I say you plan to come down. I think some of us dc dawgs were laying loose plans for a soiree sometime in the near future. Maybe we could coordinate a memorial day weekend bash. Lets talk backchannel if you want to further discuss.

Sushi Boy
05-16-06, 13:45
Sometime back, I reported about getting an under the table HJ at Royal Palace, but my question today is about JP's.

I went there yesterday afternoon and noticed that some of the dancers would take gentlemen to the upstairs dance area which is closed during the day. Does anyone know if extras are to be had? or is it just a more intimate show type thing.

Thanks

Frank M
05-23-06, 19:36
I am looking for any info for a great lady who offered massage in Tysons Corners but also did outcall to MD/VA and DC. Her name is Jasmine. I was a regular for a year but had to leave for work. On my return I find that she no longer has an ad in the Washingtonian and her cell number is diconnected. If any one has info on her I would appreciate it.

Thanks

Frank

Artbob
06-04-06, 00:23
Sosuaking thank you for your grest maps. The DC board rocks... In a trip to miami I feel like an explorer trying to map a new teritorry I wish the Miami board will be as informative as the DC board.

Artbob
06-04-06, 00:30
I've met a great provider from the Miami CL. Her name is Dallas. She is going to visit DC in 2 weeks and will post on CL then. She is as advertised and looks like her pictue (rare for a CL listing). Keep your eye open for her she is worth it.

Cheesemaker
06-12-06, 23:04
Correct me if I'm wrong, seniors. But wasn't there something this weekend that some of you may want to share with the board? Prurient minds want to know.

Loop Vet
06-13-06, 16:24
1 part Loop Vet
1 part LV’s gf & former sw India
1 part Diamond
6 parts other party girls
6 parts other mongers
2 parts lipstick marks on face
Lots of alcohol

Mix all ingredients into a Whitelair. Marinate with alcohol (chill with a naked lady ice sculpture if available). Stir the pot slowly for a couple hours. Sit back and watch the fireworks. You have just made a delectable little dish called DRAMA.



This little tale begins in the planning stages. Original plans had the party scheduled for June 3, which seemed a good weekend for Big White and myself, the co-hosts of this little shin-dig, because I was a free man that weekend and there was a full moon scheduled so Big Cracka could get his howl on. The idea for the party developed in early May so Big and I started with a little behind the scenes planning. We figured that to really set this soiree off, we wanted to bring in some new blood for the boys so we were going to have to spend a little time on the recruiting trail.

The first girls to sign letters of intent were Diamond/Allure and her friend Essence. Diamond is stunning - in a ghetto sort of way. Very pretty face with an ass that seems to always follow a couple feet behind her thin frame. Her friend Essence (not K&L loop Essence) is a tallish, intelligent, dark-skinned beauty who claims to be a RN at a local hospital while moon-lighting her former job on occassion because she just can’t seem to completely let it go. Although an old-timer to me, Diamond would be new to the dawgs and her friend Essence would be new to all of us. So one evening when Robux and I were having dinner at the Looplair, Diamond gave me a ring saying she was in the neighborhood and wanted to introduce me to her latest addition to the family – a one month old bouncing baby boy. She, Essence, and the little guy came over and the five of us just hung out and chatted for a spell. Diamond still hadn’t recovered fully from the child birth, and didn’t shine like she usually does. Robux was not impressed and I was shocked that she didn’t look good. No dating occurred this visit, but the girls seemed excited to be invited to the party. It just so happened that my new gf India called while they were there, so later, to ease some of her suspicion, I told India that Diamond, “…looked like shit anyway.” More on that later, but meanwhile, girls 1 and 2 were signed up.

Big and I knew there would be other easy choices as well, so we made a few calls and locked in some others: Mocha, Renee, loopette Essence, and Finese. All these girls were game, but we also knew that most of the boys knew these chicks from other parties so we’d keep them on the hook until we found other, new girls, then we’d just blow off whomever on a case by case basis. Girls 3, 4, 5, and 6 submitted LOI's (letters of intent).

Where to find new girls? Forget about the usual places, they were old-hat. The loop? I’m too old and need my rest. Hmmm….? Strip clubs, that’s the ticket. BW and I have sort of an inclination for DC’s lovely chocolate babies, so we hit a local dive where he and I were sure to stick out like Klansmen at the Million Man March. But we are far from Klansmen, so we got along with the crowd swimmingly. After two nights at the club, Big and I befriended a few major hotties and planned to see them outside the club. I sacrificed my time on a couple separate occasions to test drive the possible party girls. I had a decent time with Bunny and she said she was in for the party. But Tender, she was a whole different story. She was my White Elephant that was eluding me all the way up to party week. When we did finally get together it was all that and then some… my oh my, my oh my. I stuck out my tongue and hit that little pretty bitty with persistence, amungst other very bad things, I think ya'll hear me. But thats neither here nor there. She couldn’t commit unfortunately, said she had a hip-hop video shoot in Miami (whatever). Tiffany, dancer #3, was game from the get go. Neither Big nor I dated her prior to the event, but we kept in touch and she was eager to party. Update: girls #’s 7 & 8 committed, but we didn't consider them locked until they show. Verbal intents, shall we say.

Meanwhile, we were working the backchannels for mongers. In doing so, we came to the conclusion that June 10 would be a better night for everyone, so a date change was made. For me, unfortunately, that meant I had to invite my new ex-loopette gf to the party so I suggested she bring one of her girl friends who might want to git down with the git down. Done. Girls 9 & 10 committed. Okay, 10 was a decent number knowing there would be some who would flake. Add Big’s friends from the bar to on-call status and we were pretty much set as far as women were concerned. Mongers were set, women were set, location was set, and party favors were set. Time to party…

June 10, 9pm, the party was here. The playas at this special gathering were as follows: Big White, Loop Vet, Hondo Lane, Bronze Hornet, Wiseborn, Motorback, Beachseats Rock, Diamond, Essence, Sierra Foxx, Mocha, Renee, Tiffany, India, and Pebbles. India and Renee were not availible for dating, but still a decent ratio. Big had the Whitelair ready to go: a phat pad; a buffet of shrimp, chicken wings, & antipasto; a stocked bar of top-shelf liquor & beer; bottles of Dom; an iPod stereo system stocked with hip-hop and R&B; and he topped it off with a Naked Lady Ice Luge. (Boy did the girls enjoy posing for pics infront of that ice luge.)

But Loop, where’s the drama? Okay, let me shut up and get to that. Everyone arrived at different times and Big had to head down to the lobby everytime someone arrived in order to let them in. Anyway, at this point, everyone who was going to be there was there, except for Diamond, Essence, and Sierra, but they just called so Big White and I headed downstairs to let them in. When we left for the lobby to greet them, things were moving along just fine it seemed: people were doing shots of Patron off the tits of Big’s ice sculpture, Renee was tending bar and playing DJ, Tiffany was looking fantabulous and after dancing for us all happened to be upstairs with one of our fellow mongers, and everyone else was just kicking it having a good time.

In the lobby, Diamond, Essence, and Sierra arrived. They took their sweet ass time parking, and 10 minutes later we were greeting them with kisses. So, I had some of Diamond’s hot pink lipstick on my lips, but that was of no concern to me even though the girls were trying to wipe it off as we headed back upstairs.

When we walked back into the party 10 minutes later, things had gotten a little weird. Bronzie and Hondo informed us that there was some issue, and India was in the middle of it. She had one too many cocktails and thought she had to regulate things I guess. She interrupted Tiffany and one of our esteemed and always gentlemanly mongers because she, “thought they were up there too long.” They were doing just fine. Apparently she also gave a couple guys a smack or two for no apparent reason. It was time for Loop to take India into the bathroom and show her my pimp hand. That’s when she noticed the lipstick on my lips. Part of the problem lied with the fact that a month ago I said Diamond “looked like shit”, when on this Saturday night she was on fire. India thought there was no possible way this girl looked bad, therefore I was lying and probably banged her that night she came over. Even though my explanation for the lipstick and the visit were perfectly reasonable and truthful, India had her mind set and wanted to “stab somebody in the neck”. Ahh, I look forward to bringing her home to mom.

By the time we came out from the bathroom, Hondo, Bronzie, and Motorback were ready to clear out as tempers were escalating everywhere upon the arrival of the new girls. Diamond sent back the cocktail she ordered from Renee which didn’t go over too well with our bartender, although the usually hot tempered Renee composed herself and handled herself well. Alas, Diamond, being the street-savvy gal that she is, had a cool head all around, as did her cohorts, and they sat down with India and talked her down. Tiffany came downstairs and everyone became pleasant as punch. It was only about 15 minutes of tension, but it was tempered and all ended well.

Wiseborn rolled out at some point after doing what he needed to do as did Mocha and Renee. This left Big White, Benchseats and myself to hang out with Diamond, Essence, Sierra, India and Pebbles. Things were chill and everyone was well-behaved, relatively speaking of course.

I rolled out around 3:45am because I forgot that from upstairs you could see downstairs over a balcony and I made the mistake of fondling Diamonds ass while she showed it off for me and Benchseats. India saw me do it. It was no big deal, but she had seen enough so it was time to go. I think the party lasted till somewhere around 5am, but I’m not sure.

There was definitely plenty of hooking up happening and after that short spell of almost-catfights and mine and India’s drama, the party seemed to be a decent success. Hell, whats a party without a little drama, huh? Tiffany was definitely the standout, imo. She changed clothes twice while she was there, danced, lapdanced, posed for pictures, got freaky, and just had an overall winning attitude. She was very sweet and thanked me for inviting her.

Even India was a bit smitten with Tiffany and suggested she have her over for me sometime, as long as it’s a threesome. WOW, what a great idea!!!! Bad idea: bring it up the next day when she's sober. Hey! There's one more recipe for drama….

Benchseats Rock
06-13-06, 18:07
I am almost recovered, but not just yet.

Big White
06-13-06, 21:05
It started innocently enough. Loop suggested that since I had recently moved into a lair that could accommodate two beds, we should have a little housewarming party. I could really use a new toaster, I thought, and readily agreed. The date was in flux up until the week before the party. It seems that the Book a Hooker Kit is very successful in attracting women who want to party; however, getting a group of mongers together on a particular night proved more elusive. Wise gets the prize for crossing 4 or 5 state lines just to come to the party, hook-up with the hottest girl there, and then drive back before sunlight. LL gets a pass for not attending as is evident from his posts covering mongering throughout many parts of the USA and Mexico in the last few months, little LL needed at least one night to rest.

In addition to our outings to secure new blood for the party (it’s a tough job, but somebody’s gotta do it), Loop and I threw around ideas to really make the party stand out. I suggested lighting the place with candles, maybe having some champagne, and Loop threw out the idea of an Ice Sculpture. Ice Sculpture? Ok, lets run with it. A few calls later, and we arranged to have a naked lady ice sculpture for the party. She was a good 4 feet tall, with about 34 C breasts, and of course, had two chutes where vodka or tequila could be poured through her torso and come out around the nipples chilled. To drink, you had to suck the breasts. As Loop said, the women really got into it. Grey Goose and Patron were flowing all night.

The day before the party, Loop and I tried to finalize the list. At that point, it looked like at least 10 girls were showing. We finally decided that rather than worry about the number of girls coming, we should just chill, and make sure the boys had a good time. The saying SMWSLT also applies to these parties. We had tentatively confirmed Diamond, Essence 1 and 2, Mocha and a friend or three, Pebbles, Bunny, Tiffany, Finesse, India as eye candy, and Renee at least working the bar and being the DJ. Baby K at one point indicated some interest, as well as Loopette Special.

The night of the party, I felt like the Grand Marshall of the hooker parade. As the girls arrived, I would go down to the lobby and escort them up. Of course, throughout the evening, a few of them would have to go back and forth to their cars. By the end of the night, the front desk clerk would not even look at me…lol Thank God for twenty-four hour concierge service. Hah!

The mongers arrived about the same time as the first group of girls and the party started. Loop Vet, Hondo Lane, Bronze Hornet, Motorback, Wiseborn, and Baltimore special guest star, Benchseats Rock. The girls at this time included Philly Pebbles, Mocha, Renee at the bar, India on Loop’s arm, and the sexy Tiffany. Tiffany is a dancer by trade, and added a new dimension to the party. She brought different outfits to dance in, as well as another briefcase of make-up, hair products, etc. to increase her hotness. The extra effort she put into being prepared really put to shame the output of the other girls. I love Mocha, but have decided that she has "jumped the shark." This can be a good thing, though as she seems to be slowly becoming (almost) square as time goes by.

Tiffany started dancing, and all eyes were on her, particularly as India was the one tipping her. More drinks flowed, and people started to pair off. I’ll bypass the drama since that’s been covered. One of the drinking games that I had discussed with Loop was that we would take a shot for everytime we heard one of the girls get her ass smacked during a session. This game was quickly dropped, however, when during Benchseat Rock’s first session of the evening, at least 25 smacks were heard in rapid succession over about a minute or so.

As the second wave of girls rolled in, Diamond, Essence, and Sierra, the party became more party and less mongering. As hot as Diamond and Essence looked that night, by about 5 am, I was hoping that they would be tired of partying, or at the least I would be recovered enough from an earlier session to date one of them. The remaining group rolled out about then, and the party wrapped up except for Pebbles who had stayed behind in my bed. About 9 am that morning, I heard a tremendous crash that sounded like someone had just blasted the windows out of my place. I ran downstairs to see that a large portion of the ice sculpture had melted from its base, and almost perfectly fell into my kitchen sink. A good sign that the party was officially over.

Drew Park
06-14-06, 06:16
We arranged to have a naked lady ice sculpture for the party. She was a good 4 feet tall, with about 34 C breasts, and of course, had two chutes where vodka or tequila could be poured through her torso and come out around the nipples chilled. To drink, you had to suck the breasts. As Loop said, the women really got into it.

While the girls seemed to enjoy it, a more considerate host would have gotten a male ice sculpture just for the ladies.

The affect would have been "chilling" :^)

Motorback
06-14-06, 17:20
Damn Loopy....Make us sound like pussies who won't watch women fight...I for one am always in for a little woman on woman fighting.! They tend to be much nastier then two men.....

ANYHOW...Props to BH for being the FIRST to hang his mask on the banister going upstairs.

BW and LV...Thanks for a GREAT time. You two are one VERY powerful team and have shown why you lead the Monger Pack in DC. Hell neither one of you has to leave your respective homes to monger. They come to you !!!!!!!!I'm still trying to recover from all of those beautiful ladies......

Rocky11
06-14-06, 17:24
Is this the Pebbles from PG?

[QUOTE=Big White]It started innocently enough. Loop suggested that since I had recently moved into a lair that could accommodate two beds, we should have a little housewarming party. I could really use a new toaster, I thought, and readily agreed.....

Big White
06-14-06, 20:37
Is this the Pebbles from PG?

No, we imported this Pebbles from Philly for the party.



While the girls seemed to enjoy it, a more considerate host would have gotten a male ice sculpture just for the ladies.

The affect would have been "chilling" :^)

Lol DP. However, while the girls at the party earn their college tuition dealing with us mongers, for most of them, their true passion is reserved for those of the female persuasion. Lots of touching/feeling/grinding, etc., going on amongst the women.

Motorback
06-14-06, 21:08
BW is being much too modest...many times during the night there were several BW sandwiches. LUCKY bastard.....Haven't seen an oreo like that in a long time. LOL

Bronze Hornet
06-14-06, 21:57
Benchseat Rocks gets that honor plus the Best Acoustics awards for the smacks that echoed through the BW Lair changing the drinking game to a "no go" due to avoiding alcohol poisoning. I was the 2nd one up and noticed Mocha's Knee prints in the sheets before I started playing with the Tiffany.

BW and LoopMan, thanks for sharing the shindig, it was kind of like a new wave spike lee movie ...Skin, hip hop music, sista drama, spankings, ice ladies (and the sculpture too, LOL) , great sex with a Tiffany that went at me like "She's Gotta Have it"....Please keep me on your invite list. Many appreciations.



Damn Loopy....Make us sound like pussies who won't watch women fight...I for one am always in for a little woman on woman fighting.! They tend to be much nastier then two men.....

ANYHOW...Props to BH for being the FIRST to hang his mask on the banister going upstairs.

BW and LV...Thanks for a GREAT time. You two are one VERY powerful team and have shown why you lead the Monger Pack in DC. Hell neither one of you has to leave your respective homes to monger. They come to you !!!!!!!!I'm still trying to recover from all of those beautiful ladies......

Motorback
06-15-06, 11:14
My Bad...The ringing of those slaps hasn't diminished yet in my ears and must have kept me un focused....LOL

No disrespect BS!

WiseBorn
06-15-06, 18:19
despite a a few hiccups it was a party to remember. If we could have a few parties like this a year word among the SW/escorts would get around. In a few months we could actually be turning away the ones we don't want. That party was interesting for many reasons, the first one is I now know where all the SW's have gone. To the Internet to become Dominatrixes because that's where the money is apperently. I have done my part to convince SW's that there's almost money to be made by conventional fucking. I was pleased that Nurse Essence hasn't given up on mongers completely! LOL.

Rocky11
06-19-06, 15:04
Hey all... looking for a provider that I found once on eros that went by those names - she operated out of an apt in dc and also one in Takoma Park... anybody have any current intel on her? PM me if you do.. thanks.

Rocky

A John
06-19-06, 16:00
Hey all... looking for a provider that I found once on eros that went by those names - she operated out of an apt in dc and also one in Takoma Park... anybody have any current intel on her? PM me if you do.. thanks.

RockyI'm not sure but these are the same photos of a girl that used to be called flawless.

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/ers/172800632.html
good luck in your search

AJ

Loop Vet
06-19-06, 16:45
Hey all... looking for a provider that I found once on eros that went by those names - she operated out of an apt in dc and also one in Takoma Park... anybody have any current intel on her? PM me if you do.. thanks.

Rocky

Rock, I saw a Purrrfection advertising on Eros the other day who's pics kind of look like Flawless, but it's not the same girl I don't think. I know Flawless aka Finesse. I have her home number because her cell has been turned off, but she shares that line with her roommate. I will doublecheck with her before giving it out.

Big White
06-19-06, 20:07
I know Flawless aka Finesse. I have her home number because her cell has been turned off, but she shares that line with her roommate. I will doublecheck with her before giving it out.


Here's some post from Finess from Craigslist as recently as today to see if she is your girl, Rock. The fine, petite honey has been posting this past week. Resistance weakening.....

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/search?areaID=10&subAreaID=0&query=finess&catAbbreviation=ers&minAsk=min&maxAsk=max

Benchseats Rock
06-20-06, 14:01
Here's some post from Finess from Craigslist as recently as today to see if she is your girl, Rock. The fine, petite honey has been posting this past week. Resistance weakening.....

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/search?areaID=10&subAreaID=0&query=finess&catAbbreviation=ers&minAsk=min&maxAsk=max


She'll always have a seat reserved here.

Rocky11
06-20-06, 17:06
Thanks to all for helping me locate her... you'll be seeing a report here early next week. She is one of the best - everything she says in her ad, as well as the compliments here, are right on the mark.

Rocky



She'll always have a seat reserved here.

Dirty Dog
06-24-06, 19:26
I'am going to be in town next week and I'am going to be with a pretty good looking female freind that likes to get with hot girls. Where should I take her? Do the AMPS give service to females? Doe's anyone know any good Bisexual working girls. We'll probly start off by checking out a few strip clubs to see if there's any take out available.

Anal Lover
06-26-06, 14:43
My girlfriend and I are going to be in the DC area (Arlington, VA) this weekend and we're trying to find out if anyone can recommend a hot Black Strip Club for us to check out, also if you could let us know if there are any that have Hispanic dancers too, that would be a plus.

Also, please let me know if those clubs offer lap dances and if you're allowed to touch the girls during the lap dances? Thanks for the info & have a good one!

Drew Park
06-26-06, 18:22
...to ask about bisexual ladies.

As for the AMPs, I only knew of one spa (not in this area) that would provide a massage to a woman. And alas, she did not receive a happy ending...

Navy One
06-26-06, 19:32
Check out escorts on eros. Some note this. Have not tried so give thread back with your experience.

Smokey2009
06-26-06, 23:55
Man I really can't believe the DC board is so dead. I really think we can find some SWs in the area, we just need to keep on looking and not give up. Im wonderin if when the strip clubs close, some of the girls hit the loop? Better yet, if by now more girls have decided to hit the strip with warmer weather. We have to bring back the action to DC, not to far away in other cities sorroundin, their boards are boomin with info, why cant DC do that?

I think we can.

Frank99
06-28-06, 17:59
OK, I know I am gonna get flamed here. I have RTFF and I cannot find the name or address of this bar. I am a somewhat regular poster in Baltimore. But I am now in DC area and would love to know more about this bar.

Thanks.

Frank

WiseBorn
06-28-06, 18:10
I'am going to be in town next week and I'am going to be with a pretty good looking female freind that likes to get with hot girls. Where should I take her? Do the AMPS give service to females? Doe's anyone know any good Bisexual working girls. We'll probly start off by checking out a few strip clubs to see if there's any take out available.
Take out is defenitely availble at any Lap dance club just ask them to give you their number.

Loopy De Loop
06-28-06, 18:55
Thanks to all for helping me locate her... you'll be seeing a report here early next week. She is one of the best - everything she says in her ad, as well as the compliments here, are right on the mark.

RockyToday, I had the pleasure (literally) to see the petite lady in question.

Several words describe her: eye candy, hot body and pleasing all the way.
The menu included a massage then the alphabet soup: CG, mish, 2 cups.

I made a mental note to self to try the take out option in the future.

Face – 8
Body – 9
Service – 10

Loopy de loop

Smokey2009
06-28-06, 21:46
Take out is defenitely availble at any Lap dance club just ask them to give you their number.I figured they were, but i never really was to curious to find out their rates. By any chance do they go by the regular SW rates? im your own opinion do u think their cleaner than an SW?

Benchseats Rock
06-29-06, 01:34
I figured they were, but i never really was to curious to find out their rates. By any chance do they go by the regular SW rates? im your own opinion do u think their cleaner than an SW?


If their rates were even in the same universe as Baltimore SW rates I would not only be living in DC but on top of one of the clubs to shorten the commute.
IMHO, the girls whom I've had the distinct pleasure of meeting and spanking, as a group they seem to be cleaner and safer too, but then again that may have been due to the incredible wisdom and genorosity of my most capable host last time in DC.

Bench

Smokey2009
06-29-06, 10:05
If their rates were even in the same universe as Baltimore SW rates I would not only be living in DC but on top of one of the clubs to shorten the commute.

IMHO, the girls whom I've had the distinct pleasure of meeting and spanking, as a group they seem to be cleaner and safer too, but then again that may have been due to the incredible wisdom and genorosity of my most capable host last time in DC.

BenchVery true, but I'm talkin about the SW rates in DC, which ofcourse are still higher than the bmore rates. You do make a great point, what a wonderful world it would be if the same rates as baltimore SWs would apply to the DC ones.

Unfortunately DC SW rates go for. 6 just for a CBJ. They might have gone down, or gone up higher than last time I went out. I guess it all comes down to the supply and the demand in DC. Supply is def short, allowin for those who are out to charge as high as they want due to the high increase of monger demand.

WiseBorn
06-29-06, 15:43
I figured they were, but i never really was to curious to find out their rates. By any chance do they go by the regular SW rates? im your own opinion do u think their cleaner than an SW?
the rates are basically the same. I guess they might be cleaner than SW (whatever that means) because usually you can make arrangements to see them at your leisure.

Smokey2009
06-30-06, 00:26
the rates are basically the same. I guess they might be cleaner than SW (whatever that means) because usually you can make arrangements to see them at your leisure.Thanks for the info. What i meant by cleaner, is you run a higher chance of findin a SW with a little friend like clap or other featured buddies of his, or the loop as compared to a club girl

Benchseats Rock
06-30-06, 04:41
Thanks for the info. What i meant by cleaner, is you run a higher chance of findin a SW with a little friend like clap or other featured buddies of his, or the loop as compared to a club girl


Think of it this way. It's the same Jackson for a BBBJ as it is here in Baltimore, and 2 more for the condom. *grin*

Bench

Heavy Dog
06-30-06, 13:24
Louis Rogue on K St NW, Skylark Lounge on New York ave NE, Macombo Lounge on Georgia Ave near Kennedy St NW and Club 55 on L St SE all are all Black Dancers. You might be able to get lap dances at the Skylark and Louis Rogue but it has been some time since I have been in both places. All of the four are totally nude, and stage tipping is alowed in each one. The Playhouse on Georgia Ave NW is all Black/Nude dancers but has a little too much of a gansta atmosphere and has rap music as the primary music that is played for the dancers, and done at too loud of a volume at that.

Hope This Helps.

Sosuaking
07-01-06, 02:09
Louis Rogue on K St NW, Skylark Lounge on New York ave NE, Macombo Lounge on Georgia Ave near Kennedy St NW and Club 55 on L St SE all are all Black Dancers. You might be able to get lap dances at the Skylark and Louis Rogue but it has been some time since I have been in both places. All of the four are totally nude, and stage tipping is alowed in each one. The Playhouse on Georgia Ave NW is all Black/Nude dancers but has a little too much of a gansta atmosphere and has rap music as the primary music that is played for the dancers, and done at too loud of a volume at that.

Hope This Helps.I've been to all of the clubs mentioned except for Louis Rouge. I would personally rate the quality of the girls found there in this order.

1. The House (formely The Penthouse)
2. Club 55
3. Macambo Lounge
4. Skylark

As far as safety, I felt the least safe in the Skylark. As for the "gangsta" atmosphere, I'm not sure what Heavy was talking about. At least not in comparison to the other clubs mentioned. The comment about the rap music being the primary is true though. The bouncers pat you down at both the House and Club 55. This alone makes me feel safer than the other two places; that and the police station one block away with the cops who come in to "look around". But it definitely feels more "gangsta" than someplace like Camelot, Archibalds, etc...

As for the "takeout" option in each club. I'd rank take out friendliness in the following order.
1. Macambo
2. Skylark
3. The House
4. Club 55

Macambo is REALLY tiny and thus in my opinion provides the most "up close and personal" vibe with the girls allowing you the most opportunity to make arrangements.

IMO, the quality of the women at the House is FAR above the women at the other clubs.

Heavy Dog,

Thanks for the info on Louis Rouge, I'll have to check it out.

WiseBorn
07-01-06, 17:54
I haven't been in there in years but the Takeout option was very availible in the Rouge especially amoung the daytime shift

Big White
07-01-06, 20:11
I haven't been in there in years but the Takeout option was very availible in the Rouge especially amoung the daytime shift

Agree Wise, that the takeout option is available at Louis Rouge. In fact, one of the girls (wsw) who works the K/L loop dances there. I go there once a month or so to have a couple of drinks, just because of the convenience. Problem is, however, I haven't seen anything there I would want to take out.

Even when you get the numbers of these dancers, its sometimes a pain in the ass to arrange meeting them. A lot of calls back and forth, boyfriend issues, working schedule, etc. Yet, the meeting sometimes makes up for the drama. The occasional date supplements their income, and they'll do it for the money and to party, but they get their walking around money from dancing.

So, I would recommend, unless you have the time and enjoy hanging at the strip joints just to hang, that you follow Wise's first suggestion of hitting the lap dance clubs over in PG.

Dirty Dog
07-02-06, 14:15
Thanks for the info some of you set me. I've been having a pretty good time here so far. I had to get out on foot on K and L to get a better look at some of the girls. Met a real cute yummy BSW named Honey in one of the bars. I brought my female freind to a AMP but was shot down first thing. But had plenty of luck in the other places.

Big Kev
07-03-06, 07:53
Anyone else remember when the Skylark was on West Virginia Avenue. Much smaller than current location but I sure did have some memorable times there.

I believe the place moved to current NY Ave. location about 10-12 years ago. Last time I drove down West VIrginia, the original place was literally crumbling, with sagging roof, busted windows, etc. Obviously unoccupied for some time. But a great spot for white boy to get taste of the dark way back when.

Eerock
07-03-06, 09:42
I've been going off and on to Louis the Rouge ever since it opened 20 years ago, mostly because its often been convenient to where I am working. Used to be more of a mixed stable of dancers, but seems pretty much all African American now. Dancers have always been friendly, some more tip hungry than others. Agree with Big White that takeout is available but the pickings are slim unless you like them real thick. Given the condo and office development in the immediate area, I figure its days are numbered.

If the message board on a certain strip club list web site is to believed, the Royal Palace has the friendliest dancers within the all too confining confines of DC, offering certain menu items on premises if you get the right dancer. Not sure I'm supposed to post links to other web sites, so b/c me if you don't know it.

[QUOTE=Big White]Agree Wise, that the takeout option is available at Louis Rouge. In fact, one of the girls (wsw) who works the K/L loop dances there. I go there once a month or so to have a couple of drinks, just because of the convenience. Problem is, however, I haven't seen anything there I would want to take out.

WiseBorn
07-03-06, 16:45
I know for a fact that a friend of mine got takeout from a dancer in there. Joanna's had a trio that I knew was ready for Takeout. However things are done a little more discreetly in the Mainstream Strip Clubs in DC, It takes longer for the girls to get a feel for you and the Management wouldn't take kindly to someone endangering their Liqour License. So by the time you got a price from a lady you would proboly already have given her hundreds of dollars in tips over the course of a few weeks. Lap Dance clubs are easier since you can make a proposal while the lady is dancing for you. Even if she doesn't agree she won't be too offended, since almost everybody in LD clubs asks for that. However the Mainstream PG strip clubs are very dangerous, If you're not known by somebody you're likely to feel uncomfortable, unless you're a veteran LD patron. The best bet is to get an Invite to a decent Underground party.

Heavy Dog
07-03-06, 22:52
What I mean when I say there may be a Gangsta atmosphere present in some strip clubs is that there are thuggish/gang banger/drug dealer type guys who may frequent or be present in certain clubs at times, and care should be taken not to get into any run-ins with them if possible. I also agree with Wiseborn on the PG mainstrem clubs point; they can be dangerous. Also, where are Joanna's and the Royal Palace located in DC?

Hope this helps.

Benchseats Rock
07-04-06, 12:51
Oh, just imagine if this wan't a cop too lazy to do some actual work. Ok, maybe it's not a cop. Dateline NBC? LV, let me know if your email suddenly gets flooded *grin*

Bench

first timer looking for pimp - w4m
Reply to: pers-178203933@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-07-04, 12:13AM EDT


trying to get in the game and dont know anything.

looking for a pimp.

thanks.

Smokey2009
07-04-06, 16:26
I'm not much of a poster, mostly a lurker persay, but when I get the occasional urge to find some action. SO Sunday night, I decide to enter DC to see whats goin on in the city, somewat aware of the silence that has haunted the streets for a while. I was WOWED! Thats all I could really say, DC was up and runnin Sunday night, I'm not sure if it was because there was somethin rather big goin on at the clubs on K but it had its pretty big share of SWs. Lets start by saying it was BSW heaven if you were in town and cravin some of it, I did see the occasional WSW and decided to indulge and contribute to the funds of a lady that went by "Tina. " about 5'6 slender with nice set of T&As. CBJ was on the menu and although the main course was not taken, it was a great way to start the night. All the streets had some kind of action goin down, monger were out in full force and even the bummed out side streets had action boomin. Ofcourse the side streets were the crackheads were at, werent as interestin as those on the loop but I decided to venture into their territory. I have to say, business in DC has picked up and now let the hunt begin! And let the posts come followin after.

Loop Vet
07-16-06, 12:30
So I havent been mongering lately and not sure when I will again. But I'm bored and thinking about posting some pics that have been gathering dust on my hard-drive. Just for shits and giggles. Anyone object? Should I start a new thread or post them in the sw thread (all sw's or former sw's)?

Also, who wants to join me? Trick Williams?

Trick Williams
07-16-06, 16:36
So I havent been mongering lately and not sure when I will again. But I'm bored and thinking about posting some pics that have been gathering dust on my hard-drive. Just for shits and giggles. Anyone object? Should I start a new thread or post them in the sw thread (all sw's or former sw's)?

Also, who wants to join me? Trick Williams?

Post away my friend... I am right behind you... Lets start a new thread.

Corsair88
07-17-06, 00:30
What I mean when I say there may be a Gangsta atmosphere present in some strip clubs is that there are thuggish/gang banger/drug dealer type guys who may frequent or be present in certain clubs at times, and care should be taken not to get into any run-ins with them if possible. I also agree with Wiseborn on the PG mainstrem clubs point; they can be dangerous. Also, where are Joanna's and the Royal Palace located in DC?

Hope this helps.Heavydog,

I dunno where Joanna's is but RP is located in the intersection of Florida Ave and Connecticut Ave.

I hope this helps.

Eerock
07-17-06, 09:28
Joanna's is the former name of the 1819 Club, down the street from Camelot's.

QUOTE=Corsair88]Heavydog,

I dunno where Joanna's is but RP is located in the intersection of Florida Ave and Connecticut Ave.

I hope this helps.[/QUOTE]

Hugh Handsoman
08-05-06, 09:21
August 4, 2006



WASHINGTON -- A Capitol police officer has now been tied to the case of a 15-year-old girl who was allegedly prostituted by a former volunteer assistant junior varsity football coach.

Sources told News4 Friday that the teen was videotaped having sex in the Charles County home of a Capitol police officer. The source also said that the officer had sex with the girl in a car near the Capitol building.

News4 reported Friday that the law enforcement officer's car was taken and his home was searched for evidence.


Arron Jahimal Burroughs, 35, of Crofton allegedly sexually abused the teen and then began transporting her from Maryland to the District so that she could engage in acts of prostitution.

According to court documents, Burroughs was arrested Monday after a Takoma Park police officer found the girl and another man having oral sex.

Burroughs had rented a room for the girl to use with customers at the Budget Inn on New York Ave. in D.C. But, she was picked up by a man in the car, who paid her $150, the documents said.

Authorities said the girl told police she was a prostitute and that Burroughs was her pimp.

The teen also allegedly told police that she had been working for and having sex with Burroughs since she was 14.

Investigators then had the girl call Burroughs and ask him to come pick her up from the Budget Inn. When he arrived, police arrested him.

Sources also told News4 Friday that in June, Burroughs left the girl in Staunton, Va., with a group of men who were recently released from jail and the teen later called relatives to pick her up.

Sources also said that Burroughs gave discounts to friends and family.

According to court documents, Burroughs also took several "nude, sexually graphic pictures" of the girl on his cell phone camera.

So far, only Burroughs has been charged in the case. Burroughs is being held without bond. He is expected back in court on Aug. 16.

Burroughs was volunteer assistant junior varsity football coach at Bowie High School for three years. The 15-year-old girl was a student there at the time.

Burroughs also worked as a bus driver and allegedly admitted to police that he also sold marijuana.

Freshly Snipes
08-05-06, 11:24
August 4, 2006

WASHINGTON -- A Capitol police officer has now been tied to the case of a 15-year-old girl who was allegedly prostituted by a former volunteer assistant junior varsity football coach.

Sources told News4 Friday that the teen was videotaped having sex in the Charles County home of a Capitol police officer. The source also said that the officer had sex with the girl in a car near the Capitol building.

News4 reported Friday that the law enforcement officer's car was taken and his home was searched for evidence.

Arron Jahimal Burroughs, 35, of Crofton allegedly sexually abused the teen and then began transporting her from Maryland to the District so that she could engage in acts of prostitution.

According to court documents, Burroughs was arrested Monday after a Takoma Park police officer found the girl and another man having oral sex.

Burroughs had rented a room for the girl to use with customers at the Budget Inn on New York Ave. in D.C. But, she was picked up by a man in the car, who paid her $150, the documents said.

Authorities said the girl told police she was a prostitute and that Burroughs was her pimp.

The teen also allegedly told police that she had been working for and having sex with Burroughs since she was 14.

Investigators then had the girl call Burroughs and ask him to come pick her up from the Budget Inn. When he arrived, police arrested him.

Sources also told News4 Friday that in June, Burroughs left the girl in Staunton, Va., with a group of men who were recently released from jail and the teen later called relatives to pick her up.

Sources also said that Burroughs gave discounts to friends and family.

According to court documents, Burroughs also took several "nude, sexually graphic pictures" of the girl on his cell phone camera.

So far, only Burroughs has been charged in the case. Burroughs is being held without bond. He is expected back in court on Aug. 16.

Burroughs was volunteer assistant junior varsity football coach at Bowie High School for three years. The 15-year-old girl was a student there at the time.

Burroughs also worked as a bus driver and allegedly admitted to police that he also sold marijuana.And LE doesn't understand why we don't respect them.:rolleyes:

AlabamaSam
08-10-06, 19:43
I still believe what this board needs is some consolidation. Come on guys, lets band together and throw a party with some ho's. Ain't nothing illegal about having a party with some loose women walking around with their asses hanging out! Hell they do it all the time up on Capitol Hill. Then each person can "party" to the level they are comfortable with. Consider it target marketing for hos.

Someone's gotta figure out how to keep the riff raff out though, don't want any drugs or guns or thugs around ruining a good time.

Im envisioning an event like Tom Hanks party in the movie "Bachelor Party". We can say things like "Over? Over? Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor!?"

Surely there are enough synapses on the board to put some ideas together. Hell, DC is full of lawyers and power brokers; get their asses on board and lets really get a party going.

Who's with me!?

Member #4917
08-10-06, 23:06
I still believe what this board needs is some consolidation. Come on guys, lets band together and throw a party with some ho's. Ain't nothing illegal about having a party with some loose women walking around with their asses hanging out! Hell they do it all the time up on Capitol Hill. Then each person can "party" to the level they are comfortable with. Consider it target marketing for hos.

Someone's gotta figure out how to keep the riff raff out though, don't want any drugs or guns or thugs around ruining a good time.

Im envisioning an event like Tom Hanks party in the movie "Bachelor Party". We can say things like "Over? Over? Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor!?"

Surely there are enough synapses on the board to put some ideas together. Hell, DC is full of lawyers and power brokers; get their asses on board and lets really get a party going.

Who's with me!?


I....I Sir

DrunkAsShit
08-13-06, 19:47
I still believe what this board needs is some consolidation. Come on guys, lets band together and throw a party with some ho's. Ain't nothing illegal about having a party with some loose women walking around with their asses hanging out! Hell they do it all the time up on Capitol Hill. Then each person can "party" to the level they are comfortable with. Consider it target marketing for hos.

Someone's gotta figure out how to keep the riff raff out though, don't want any drugs or guns or thugs around ruining a good time.

Im envisioning an event like Tom Hanks party in the movie "Bachelor Party". We can say things like "Over? Over? Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor!?"

Surely there are enough synapses on the board to put some ideas together. Hell, DC is full of lawyers and power brokers; get their asses on board and lets really get a party going.

Who's with me!?I'm in if the ho's they bring are the same ragged out skanks in the pictures that peeps have been posting lately. Seriously, those tired crack heads in those roundtables mongers have been bragging about have gotta go.

AlabamaSam
08-14-06, 15:16
There's nothing worse when you read a long post with gory detail from some guy about how great a girl was and then they post a picture and she's a total crack head with one tooth. In the same way the airlines use those little pictures to help them identify your lost luggage, there should be one for hos. Then I dont have to waste my time reading stories about b*tches that have one eye or a bum leg. And guys, seriously, if a SW isn't good looking enough to work in an AMP then you should move along. Dont want no dollar store hos. Damn!


I'm in if the ho's they bring are the same ragged out skanks in the pictures that peeps have been posting lately. Seriously, those tired crack heads in those roundtables mongers have been bragging about have gotta go.

Junky11
08-15-06, 00:54
There's nothing worse when you read a long post with gory detail from some guy about how great a girl was and then they post a picture and she's a total crack head with one tooth. In the same way the airlines use those little pictures to help them identify your lost luggage, there should be one for hos. Then I dont have to waste my time reading stories about b*tches that have one eye or a bum leg. And guys, seriously, if a SW isn't good looking enough to work in an AMP then you should move along. Dont want no dollar store hos. Damn!No hoes coming to a party like you describe unless they gonna make some money.

Junky11
08-15-06, 00:54
Anybody checked this out? These women don't look half bad.

http://escorts.naughtynightlife.com/washington_dc/escorts.asp?NavStateCode=DC&NavCityID=78 ?

Loop Vet
08-15-06, 09:12
Bwahahahaha!!

i assume you jokers are talking about the dc Photo Thread since there aren't really any other photos of chicks from parties you talk about besides the ones I post. Not sure what you're looking at but the ones I've posted are pretty darn healthy chicks with tight young bodies. Do you think you're gonna find SI swimsuit models on the track? lol. Keep dreaming.

I guess you two are so resourceful. Asking others to throw a party. Pffft. DrunkAsShit even mentioned he'd "be in" if "the girls they bring". LOL. Why don't you bring the girls, DAS? All you do is whine, your life must be miserable. Instead of whining, why don't you show us how resourceful you are and post your perfect 10's. What about you Sam? Why dont you throw your little party that you've been asking others to do since you first started posting? You two couldnt come close to getting the talent we do without paying upfront or paying apperence fee's. We didnt pay shit. Pay for play only, SW prices. Good luck fellas.

I'm pretty sure DAS just posts to elicit a response so I probably shouldn't have even bothered, but when two grown men cry like babies because they cant do shit for themselves, I have to call them on it. Sorry my pics aren't good enough for you guys, I'll try harder next time. :/

AlabamaSam
08-15-06, 15:42
Nah, I wasnt talking about the DC photo thread. I was just saying in general that it is disappointing when people spend a lot of time detailing a great series of events and then you click on the the link to the picture and a girl that looks like Foghorn Leghorn shows up. Kind of blows the whole story.

I think there's plenty of talent on the track worth thowing a party for.

Peace!


Bwahahahaha!!

i assume you jokers are talking about the dc Photo Thread since there aren't really any other photos of chicks from parties you talk about besides the ones I post. Not sure what you're looking at but the ones I've posted are pretty darn healthy chicks with tight young bodies. Do you think you're gonna find SI swimsuit models on the track? lol. Keep dreaming.

I guess you two are so resourceful. Asking others to throw a party. Pffft. DrunkAsShit even mentioned he'd "be in" if "the girls they bring". LOL. Why don't you bring the girls, DAS? All you do is whine, your life must be miserable. Instead of whining, why don't you show us how resourceful you are and post your perfect 10's. What about you Sam? Why dont you throw your little party that you've been asking others to do since you first started posting? You two couldnt come close to getting the talent we do without paying upfront or paying apperence fee's. We didnt pay shit. Pay for play only, SW prices. Good luck fellas.

I'm pretty sure DAS just posts to elicit a response so I probably shouldn't have even bothered, but when two grown men cry like babies because they cant do shit for themselves, I have to call them on it. Sorry my pics aren't good enough for you guys, I'll try harder next time. :/

Dick North
08-15-06, 18:57
Bwahahahaha!!

i assume you jokers are talking about the dc Photo Thread since there aren't really any other photos of chicks from parties you talk about besides the ones I post. Not sure what you're looking at but the ones I've posted are pretty darn healthy chicks with tight young bodies. Do you think you're gonna find SI swimsuit models on the track? lol. Keep dreaming.

I guess you two are so resourceful. Asking others to throw a party. Pffft. DrunkAsShit even mentioned he'd "be in" if "the girls they bring". LOL. Why don't you bring the girls, DAS? All you do is whine, your life must be miserable. Instead of whining, why don't you show us how resourceful you are and post your perfect 10's. What about you Sam? Why dont you throw your little party that you've been asking others to do since you first started posting? You two couldnt come close to getting the talent we do without paying upfront or paying apperence fee's. We didnt pay shit. Pay for play only, SW prices. Good luck fellas.

I'm pretty sure DAS just posts to elicit a response so I probably shouldn't have even bothered, but when two grown men cry like babies because they cant do shit for themselves, I have to call them on it. Sorry my pics aren't good enough for you guys, I'll try harder next time. :/
Loop Vet
All of what you said ... I agree!

For whatever it's worth, just want to let you know that as a prior invited guest of your parties (although I couldn't make them) and an occasional visitor to DC, I have to say that you guys are absolutely the best. You and many other respected DC mongers (LL in particular) set an example for all other USG forums. I have never seen another forum so well organized as this one.

As far as the girls invited to your parties, if I can ever make one, I'm sure that my feeling will be that "I just stepped into paradise" I have reviewed all of your pictures and think that those girls are high-quality babes.
What's really amazing to me is your unselfish attitude in inviting other trusted mongers to join your get-togethers.

Keep up the good work and understand that a lot of us really respect what you do.
Just my take on the matter.
DN

VanDriver
08-15-06, 19:54
Bwahahahaha!!

i assume you jokers are talking about the dc Photo Thread since there aren't really any other photos of chicks from parties you talk about besides the ones I post. Not sure what you're looking at but the ones I've posted are pretty darn healthy chicks with tight young bodies. Do you think you're gonna find SI swimsuit models on the track? lol. Keep dreaming.

I guess you two are so resourceful. Asking others to throw a party. Pffft. DrunkAsShit even mentioned he'd "be in" if "the girls they bring". LOL. Why don't you bring the girls, DAS? All you do is whine, your life must be miserable. Instead of whining, why don't you show us how resourceful you are and post your perfect 10's. What about you Sam? Why dont you throw your little party that you've been asking others to do since you first started posting? You two couldnt come close to getting the talent we do without paying upfront or paying apperence fee's. We didnt pay shit. Pay for play only, SW prices. Good luck fellas.

I'm pretty sure DAS just posts to elicit a response so I probably shouldn't have even bothered, but when two grown men cry like babies because they cant do shit for themselves, I have to call them on it. Sorry my pics aren't good enough for you guys, I'll try harder next time. :/

Loop:

Not sure if you reviewed the rest of DumbAsShit's (oh I meant DrunkAsShit) posts, but they are completely worthless. Just a bunch of crap.

So, I agree that he was just trying to elicit a response.

Van

Loop Vet
08-15-06, 23:44
Nah, I wasnt talking about the DC photo thread. I was just saying in general that it is disappointing when people spend a lot of time detailing a great series of events and then you click on the the link to the picture and a girl that looks like Foghorn Leghorn shows up. Kind of blows the whole story.

I think there's plenty of talent on the track worth thowing a party for.

Peace!

Well then, I apologize Sam. The "one eye" remark had me thinking you were talkng about the Essence pics I posted b/c she was wearing a patch in some. My apologies.

Sure, plenty of skank pics posted but whatever. To each his own. You actually seem like a decent dude, forgive me for jumping on you.


Vandy,

I'm still trying to figure out what DrunkAsShit was being when he tried to clown the roundtables: funny, clever, or witty? I dont see any of the three. Wasn't that his rule?

Dick North,

Always good to see you around. Hope to catch you at the next one.

LoveLOS
08-16-06, 20:11
The AMPs are, for the forseeable future, now facing the same fate as the venerable BWNN...

Guess it is time for a party soon. Nice and legal. Consenting adults getting together to have a few drinks. If some of us choose to do what adults sometimes do, that is our business...

LV - let me know if/when you are back in the game. Same for you Roby. LL will return from AWOL-land soon. BW, I'm calling you as soon as I post. Let's fire up the backchannel and make our own luck again...

Just one thought, kudos to Drunk and Bama for bringing up the subject again, but I still must insist that the party I envision must work strictly on the old boy network. No offense to anybody, but an invitation with details as to where and when this party will occur can only be given to a very respected senior or to a person he knows and trusts personally. If you have been to, or invited to a roundtable by a senior here, consider yourself invited. PM if interested in attending. Expand the circle only to those with whom you know have exceeded all possible boundries a UCLEO could cross.

I have suggested before, and suggest again that Regular members, such as Drunk and Bama, or any member wishing to be allowed into the established old boy network, host their own party using whatever security measures they feel appropriate, and post the party tails here... I would love to see, and possibly attend, several parties a month hosted by different groups! And a little competition could do wonders for the local hobby.

LL

Dr.Monger
08-16-06, 23:49
I just wanted to offer my condolences to my DC bretheren on the closing of their favorite plagrounds to meet those ladies of the asian persuasion.

As for the chicks decribed in stories not being as hot as imagined, I know from personal experience that LV's dates were always hot. I just prefer vanilla to chocolate, but otherwise the ones I saw were definitely above average.

Dr. Monger

Loop Vet
08-17-06, 00:35
I miss you Doc.

AlabamaSam
08-17-06, 02:50
Looks like you're going to have to take some trips up to the block to get you through the hard times. I'll rent the bus, B-more here we come.

VanDriver
08-17-06, 11:50
Gentlemen:

I was sitting here in my office thinking... "How much debt must these ladies have to pay off before they are 'released'"?

The way I figure it, a decent provider sees at least 10 clients a day (since they work from 10am - 3am, there are 17 working hours available).

Each client tips a Jackson and I believe that the lady keeps the tip for herself (or, rather, to be used to pay off the debt).

That's $1000 gross each day!

I have heard of Mexican "smugglers" charging $5k/person to smuggle them into the country. Seeing that it is probably much costlier to get these ladies from accross the big pond, let's figure that they must pay $15k in debt.

At this rate, their debt would be paid in 15 days.

Ok, let's assume that the house still takes 1/2 of their tip for room and board...that still would only take 30 days to pay off the debt.

And, the better looking and performing providers must have more than 10 clients/day since it usually was difficult to get an appointment with them... Back to back clients as long as they wish.

Does anybody know how much debt these ladies accrue?

If it is >$15k, then the only persons who should be prosecuted are those who are OVERCHARGING to get these fine ladies from Korea to the US! And, let the Mamasans and providers do their thing.

That way, after a month or so, all the $$$ the providers are tipped can go towards their clothes, housing, etc. Where else is a person who only speaks broken English going to make $1000/day or more!?

Van

PS - Although some of this is tongue-in-cheek, it does make logical sense.

Zhuxi
08-17-06, 12:53
Van,

I have heard as much as 30k actually.

That is fairly costly, but even at that rate it could be paid off in a little more then a month, easy. My understanding is it is typical for the ladies to get 50 percent of the tip, not that it is never 100 percent, but I suppose 50 is typical. Even if the 15 or 30k is paid in 2 months, I do not know many people who can clear that kind of cash that quickly. The bottom line is, with the money that the providers make either way, it is hard to put that kind of person in slave category. Even the ones that reportedly were willing to testify against the owners in this recent occurrence, that probably has a lot more to do with saving ones skin then it does getting out of a slave like situation. Ah, who knows. Just some insight.

Zhuxi

Dick North
08-17-06, 18:26
Anyway, since the amp deal is toast for a while, you may want to ease your tensions at some of the strip clubs.
A special request ... go to Archies and ask for Crystal. She is an absolute doll-baby. A black spinner chick who is the best!. I looked at Archies web site and she is dancing tonite. At other times, she waits tables. I was with her at the bar for 3 hrs last April, an absolute doll-baby!. (oh I already said that). Who knows ... maybe take-out available (probably $$$, but oh well!)
Have fun in DC guys, there's always a way.
DN

A John
08-21-06, 05:47
Boyfriends, husband's, children and families. My wife was taken down in the East Coast slam. Many of these women get into this lifestyle for one reason money. My wife came here three years ago after South Koreans economy fell off a little she was a business owner and went over $350, 000 in debt. Without incriminating myself you can read some of the papers and see what kind of money they make monthly doing this. The thing that upsets me since Tuesday morning Aug. 16 10 AM I've had no contact with her whatsoever. Just because they're selling their ass does this not give them any constitutional rights. Myself and others boyfriends and husbands have been in communication across the East Coast. We've contacted and retained attorneys as of Sunday the 20th there is not one FBI, ICE agent or New York Commonwealth attorney that would even return a call. These people have families that worry about them. This is really just a crying out in hopes someone somewhere knows something about the safe whereabouts of our family members. Even a man who goes down and rapes a child has family who cares. He's allowed to make a call. My wife is a United States citizen who even claims a small amount for income. My opinion The reason these AMP'S are targeted is because they're easy targets. There's a bunch helpless little women selling ass with no guns, grenades etc. This happens every so often. Slowly they will start popping up again. Meanwhile somewhere there's a man who inflicted this country terrible tragedy 9/11 and still today large inconveniences. Seems we can find him, takes years to pick up the murderer of the Ramsey girl. WTF I'm sorry for my rambling I've just don't understand or agree with where our tax dollars are being spent. This was a easy target to hit I'm sure you guys read these forms also I hope you're proud of yourself. Great job men!

A John
08-22-06, 18:44
As of today I at least have a sense of calm. I've located my family after the feds get done with interrogation they are turning the girls over 10 girls at a time to Immigration. Immigration has no local bedspace / jails available. My family this morning was sent to Albuquerque New Mexico. So hopefully tomorrow we can apply for a bond hearing. Thanks to all of you who have been a big support. I've done a lot of research in regards to your PM`s you sent me and a lot of the information you've given has been greatly appreciated.

Happy Hunting

AJ

Hoohoo
08-26-06, 15:08
Just found this this morning when I randomly flip the Gazette news paper:

Two charged with prostitution
Wednesday, Aug. 23, 2006

Prostitution rings, like one suspected of operating in an apartment building earlier this month, have moved their business from massage parlors to upscale condominiums, primarily in Rockville, police say.

In the past two years, police have raided suspected operations in the Fritz condominium complex on Hungerford Drive and one at 118 Monroe St. in the Americana Centre, near Montgomery County Circuit Court, in May, said county police Detective Thomas Stack of the Montgomery County Vise and Intelligence Section.

The most recent raid took place at an apartment located at 12038 Chase Crossing Circle off of Montrose Road in south Rockville.

‘‘They’ve gone indoors,” Stack said. ‘‘They’ve become more difficult for us to investigate. We have to make appointments.”

With the massage parlors that once fronted prostitution activities gone from the county since a crackdown that started in 2001, undercover detectives are spending their time searching Web sites and online chat rooms for illegal activity.

In late July investigators found an alleged operation called ‘‘Oriental Spicy” advertised online. The site, which was removed from the Web shortly after the Aug. 8 raid, advertised hourly rates for two Asian women for escort, according to charging documents in District Court in Rockville.

An undercover officer, who made an appointment, arrived at the upscale garden-style unit on Chase Crossing Circle and was solicited by a woman named ‘‘Amy,” according to the charging documents.

Other detectives were then let into the apartment with the warrant. A search produced items associated with sexual activity, documents, cell phones and more than $600 in cash, police reported.

Ping Wang, 47, of the 200 block of Congressional Lane in Rockville, was charged with one count of prostitution, according to charging documents. Kyung Ae Lee, or ‘‘Amy,” 33, of the 1500 block of Massachusetts Avenue in Washington, D.C., was charged with two counts of prostitution. Immigration and Customs Enforcement issued a detainer on Lee, county police reported.

Stack said Oriental Spicy is not the exception in a county flush with cash.

‘‘They’re not going away,” he said about prostitution rings. ‘‘There’s too much disposable income in this county. Most of these guys are middle-class, middle-aged, white males.”

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Zhuxi
08-29-06, 21:15
It sounds a lot like the hyperbole that surrounded the "Great AMP Bust" which was heralded by law enforcement and the press as a blow against sexual slavery. I think we've all known more than a few AMP girls who go off to Atlantic City and drop small fortunes at the tables, only to be back at the AMP working shortly thereafter. Yes, many of them get taken advantage of in being transported here, and by the money transporters. But there are enough of us who have gotten to know these girls to know that the claim of "slavery" is pure bulls**t.

RandyAnother good one from RF.

Either way, one quick note. Anyone who knew some of these girls, and read reports and learned about the people "transporting them"... The girls ended up making 10 times or more then any transporter made.

Hell, to be honest with you, on top of what I know, and then reading the recent report from NY, the middle men where the ones not making shit. Odd, when the "slaves" make more then the "transporters" or "slave owners" (per customer).

Could expand on the other issues, but Farang took care of that.

Zhuxi

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A John
09-02-06, 22:24
There is 20 girls being held in Albuquerque NM if you have their A# (immigration given number) you can get someone to speak to you about their whereabouts. Without this number forget it virtually impossible. Many of the spa owners have given thousands of dollars to the girls families / friends for legal fees and bond hearings. I know of a couple DC owners who barely gave anything (financial help) when these women were looking out for their owners. Friday at 1:00 PM all of the girls had their first court date. Court was held in El Paso TX a six-hour drive in a van. Another six-hour drive back to Albuquerque arriving at about 11:30 PM last night. Out of 20 girls one of the married girls was released on her own PR some of the other girls will have bond hearings within the next two weeks. The rest of the girls are all headed back to Korea! Fiances, wife's, girlfriends even mothers. No exceptions! These are the 20 women who would not sign the paper indicating they would not help in the investigation. For the first 10 days they were interrogated and asked to sign. Some of them were scared in regards to the repercussions of their families and refused. Some of them 13 to 15 days later with attorneys via their side said they would sign the paper. Immigrations said too bad we gave you 10 days to cooperate were done talking now! One thing I've learned out of all of this when Immigration and Federal investigation are involved you got big trouble! By law these women are on American soil and are supposed to be entitled to legal counsel, a court hearing / bond hearing. These people make up their own rules and do what they want when they want. On the 11th day these DC women were flew to New York from New York they took a short van ride altogether there was 4-stops 2- flights the rest driving every stop picking up different women on the East Coast final destination Albuquerque NM. This is all done in a effort to keep them moving around and away from legal counsel. Hopefully to get them in court without counsel. Friday there was not too many lawyers in the courtroom :(

Black Wednesday has really shook things up on the east coast!

Happy Hunting,

AJ

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Motorback
09-10-06, 06:03
See....NO ONE likes politics or politicians.....Thanx Jackson !

Lifer1053
09-11-06, 22:47
Hey fellas,

I'm in charge of organizing a bachelor party this weekend, and was wondering if people could give any advice/suggestion for strip clubs in DC. (I've frequented the Block up in B'more several years ago, but never been to one down in DC). We'd prefer not to go to the ones in NW DC, but rather a 'hidden gem' on the outskirts of the metro area. Looking for the Block type action, but with better looking chicks. Any help would be much appreciated. If I need to RTFF, then just tell me so...but, I'm just in a bind for time right now.

Franky H
09-12-06, 01:45
Go to the "block", nothing in DC will come close to what you are looking for.


Hey fellas,

I'm in charge of organizing a bachelor party this weekend, and was wondering if people could give any advice/suggestion for strip clubs in DC. (I've frequented the Block up in B'more several years ago, but never been to one down in DC). We'd prefer not to go to the ones in NW DC, but rather a 'hidden gem' on the outskirts of the metro area. Looking for the Block type action, but with better looking chicks. Any help would be much appreciated. If I need to RTFF, then just tell me so...but, I'm just in a bind for time right now.

MetalGlass
09-12-06, 12:30
gotta agree with Franky H here. in addition, exploring seedier outskirts of dc without local regulars on hand might just ruin the party atmosphere if you catch my drift.

LoveLOS
09-13-06, 00:31
I was asked to post:

Trusted members that wish to attend the annual Trashman memorial RT in Baltimore may PM me for details. Coming up soon.

LL

Pete6
09-13-06, 13:17
Planning to go to DC. First time in many years. From abroad. A brief visit, but hope to spend a few nights out. I will not be interested in anything that vice might deem illegal, but I am lokking for a good plave to enjoy a few women scantily clad, perhaps a lap dance or two. Any suggestions? Please.

Horndog Man
09-13-06, 21:58
Fellow Mongers

Travelling man here, new to this forum and in defense of my traveling brother’s here I too RFF and it took me about 2 hours to FINALLY find the Sakura. Maybe it would help if I spelled it right.

But alas, why I post:

Good news- hooked up w/ Heather from CL. She’s technically in Maryland but then everyone in this city seems to live somewhere else and directions suck (how many "Lee" something streets does one area need???)

Anyway, best CFS I’ve had. Body is about 6, but the Eyes are a 9.9999 and the CFS? Well, normally because Horndog is old he needs some vitamin V to ‘fully’ enjoy FS, but w/ her the little dog barked just fine. A GFE if I ever had one.

Bad News- In a bold effort for some Varity, I struck out in search of brunette and ended up on CL again. Lucky I didn’t end up on booking photo. Encounter started off odd, when I got to the parking lot she called me from a different phone and low and behold she starts asking what I want. I get the room and she’s smoking a fresh one but there’s no butts in the tray and its 9pm (no other trays either). Like what, she started smoking for me? Room had doors to an adjoining room, just like the one’s you see on cops. Then, she asks me to put the money ON THIS nightstand. As if the money on another nightstand might not quite be close enough.

The Horndog, who looks terrible in orange, opted out. Heard the next day there was a sting but it didn’t net anyone.

Lesson learned- trust your instincts, there’s plenty out there and there’s no need to risk it.

Good mongering, hit up Heather if you get the chance.

Horndog out.

LoveLOS
09-13-06, 22:07
Peetie,

Lots of strip bars in town. Google Archibalds on K St for vanilla or mcumbos on GA Ave for chocolate. There are some other suggestions on this thread, do an advanced search using the following parameters:
"strip" as the keyword
click on reports
Select the Wash DC board.
leave everything else alone and Read the results...

Enjoy yourself.
LL

Lifer1053
09-13-06, 22:25
I hear ya. We'd prefer to go to a place where the fellas aren't packin'. :) But then again, we also go to regular clubs (i.e. dance clubs) where you have to walk through metal detectors and get padded-down.


gotta agree with Franky H here. in addition, exploring seedier outskirts of dc without local regulars on hand might just ruin the party atmosphere if you catch my drift.

Loop Vet
09-13-06, 22:27
DC doesn't allow lapdances though. Gotta go to MD for that.

Benchseats Rock
09-13-06, 23:26
800 posts. You fucking degenerate :)

Congrats man, may your next 800 posts be as fun as the first.



Benchseats Rock

Freshly Snipes
09-15-06, 15:30
For those looking for lapdance clubs in DC-don't waste your breath. PG county is the place to be, but hurry because...i'll get to that in a minute....

Went to club Sinsationals in Lanham last weekend. Haven't been to that spot in almost 3 years. My S.O was out of town, so i was free for the weekend! The usually riff raff was in there, but no incidents of violence transpired while i was there. It's funny, back in the day i had been going to various lapdance spots (Foxy playground-before they shut down, the Legend, Irvings, to name a few) and i have personally never seen not one scuffle, but i always hear through the grapevine about a shooting, or a raid, whatever...i guess i have good timing, or i'm just one lucky s.o.b.

Anyway, the place was pretty crowded at 11;30 when i arrived. had to stand up for a while before i could get a seat. I went right for the 'VIP' section where you get more intimate laps. You sit on a couch and get your lapdance on, only drawback is you have other guys sitting right beside you. Well i got a few dances form some decent looking girls, but there was this one chick that everyone seemed to want to get a dance from (because of her phat ass,dark skin, nice legs and B cup breasts). After about an hour of me getting lapdances from other girls, and trying to flag this desirable dancer down, she final came my way. She was moderating friendly, and ask me if i had any money (which is usually a bad sign). I told her i did, and as soon as she saw that i was tipping she really started to get into things. So much so that the other costumers on the couch beside me couldn't keep their eyes on their own laps, and were all in our biz!

She didn't do all that wild bouncing and flipping upside down shit, she really just found a good spot on my dick and slowly grinded, and grinded. After about 30 minute of this (and now i'm $80 broker) she turned around, facing me, and whisperd in my ear "You want me to jerk you off". I nodded and she stuck her hands down my pants, pulled out my tool, partially, and tugged away. It was dark enough in there for the casual passerby not to really notice what was going on, but the guys next to me sure knew. When i 'finshed' they were trying to get her to dance with them but she got up and left ,probably headed to the bathroom to wash the nut off her hands. Well she did come back, and sat on my lap for a few. I tipped her another $30. She said she was from Baltimore and that she dance everynow and then to make extra cash. Said something about being in school. Well after i popped i was basically ready to go. Left little after two o'clock. not a bad night at a hit-and-miss club.

Oh and about the clubs in PG county, they made all the clubs dry (no alcohol)and now they wanna enforce a 6 foot law like in DC that means no more lap dances. If this law passes then they may have to let them serve alcohol again but you have to stay 6 feet away from the dancers. Basically PG county clubs will be just like DC clubs, which means no lappy!

Anybody been to the Legend in Temple Hills lately? Is the dancer named Cinnamon still dancing there?

Robux
09-16-06, 00:16
Congrats LL! May you enjoy many more multiples of 800!

Aacountyman
09-16-06, 19:02
Are there any notell places in the downtown DC area? Or at least close to it?

Lifer1053
09-17-06, 17:37
Well, the fellas and I went to a place called 'The Showcase', off of Rt.29.
The girls are hot!! Good racial mix of dancers too (white, black, asian, latina). The admission fee is a Jackson. Clothed lapdance is another Jackson. A topless one is 1.5. Kinda pricey. No groping allowed, but some girls will let you rub their asses. As I know from personal experience. :) Bought a 'bachelor-party' dance for our buddy for 3 Jacksons. Got two girls to grind on him up on the stage, and then all of a sudden 3 more girls got up on him. 5 girls grinding on him simultaneously!

I highly doubt any extracurricular activities are allowed for the regular customers. Management runs a tight ship.

Overall, it's an okay place. I doubt I'll become a regular.

Heavy Dog
09-18-06, 00:48
The Downtowner, located at New York Ave and Penn St,N.E fits this category. I have gone into it with a girl that had her own room there so I could not tell you what the rates would be but it should not cost too much. There is also a stroll nearby-check out West Virginia Ave, Montello Pl. and Trinidad Ave. All BSW's and going rate for this area should be no more than $30 for most whatever you want. This is a tough area and caution would be advised. You can find SW's on New York Ave between Penn St. and West Virginia Av, but they are usually in the $40-60 range. These areas have stings done on some occasions, so look carefully before you make a choice. Hope This Helps.

Dc Travel 2003
09-19-06, 20:52
If you haven't heard, a military coup happened in Thailand today. Usually means all transportation is locked down. If any of you are there, take care of yourself. Good luck.

Asian Ass Fan
09-20-06, 16:26
I was leaving for Thailand on the 23rd for a 3 week stay, but that is on hold for now. My g/f said things are not good at the moment and there is a lot of uncertainty. I will update as I get more info.

MotherTeresa
09-21-06, 10:44
I want to comment on want loopvet wrote about dc dont do lapdances well its a person that do and that person is me hey boys.

VanDriver
09-21-06, 23:22
I want to comment on want loopvet wrote about dc dont do lapdances well its a person that do and that person is me hey boys.

What the eff are you talking about you do not make sense and you should think about placing a period and some capitals in your sentences so that one would know when one sentence starts and the other ends and by the way are you a lap dancer?

Van

Just picking on you for the fun of it... No insults intended.

Benchseats Rock
09-22-06, 01:12
I want to comment on want loopvet wrote about dc dont do lapdances well its a person that do and that person is me hey boys.


I for one am always happy to see a provider on the forum, especially if your intentions are to minister to the poor. And if they are, let me be the first to plead poverty :)

Trick Williams
09-22-06, 02:58
I want to comment on want loopvet wrote about dc dont do lapdances well its a person that do and that person is me hey boys.

This is the internet people... This could be a dude... Post a pic of yourself!... Preferably your ass.

Benchseats Rock
09-22-06, 03:01
This is the internet people... This could be a dude... Post a pic of yourself!... Preferably your ass.


0 to creepy in 3 posts. Excellent.

Motorback
09-22-06, 14:03
LL 800 you go !

Benchseats Rock
09-27-06, 23:03
Fox, Larry & Bench, etc...

Aren't we some dudes to talk about world piece?

I'd like to do a seasonally appropriate threesome with two ladies named Apples and Honey. Do you think we can get this arranged?

Sounds like an orgy more than a 3some... I've got it! Let's call usual suspects and have the Rosh Hashahnahnahnahnahnahnah Apples & Honey RT Special - which would of course have to include Special.... and Lique....

I'll post this in D.C. also to raise awareness with the appropiate bretheren.




Benchseats Rock

Motorback
09-28-06, 19:05
Lique a MUSt without the Moon ! Moon should be hidden .....Still scares me and causes nightmares.....

Crazy Dick
10-10-06, 18:28
Saw this on Smoking Gun. Anybody use Pamela Martin & Associates escort service?
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1009061hook1.html?link=rssfeed

Feds target escort service in money launder, prostitution probe
OCTOBER 9--With the capital already mired in its latest sex scandal, federal agents last week raided the home of a woman they allege has, for the past 13 years, operated a Washington, D.C. escort service that dispatched college-educated prostitutes to the homes and hotel rooms of well-heeled clients. A two-year probe by Internal Revenue Service and Unites States Postal Inspection Service agents has targeted the Pamela Martin & Associates escort service and its owner, Deborah Jeane Palfrey (picture at right). In coordinated actions last week, agents searched the 50-year-old Palfrey's northern California home and froze nearly $500,000 in assorted bank and stock trading accounts. A copy of the seizure affidavit, sworn out by IRS Agent Troy Burrus and filed in U.S. District Court, can be found below. According to investigators, Palfrey charged clients about $300 per session and split the take with her stable of prostitutes, who were encouraged to "work at least three nights a week." Palfrey, who started Pamela Martin & Associates in 1993, was previously convicted of running a California prostitution business and served 18 months in prison. In a TSG interview Monday, Palfrey admitted operating an escort firm, but claimed that her workers did not engage in "illegal sexual activities." There are "a lot of erotic activities that one can do without participating in things that are illegal," she claimed. Investigators contend that after Palfrey hires a prostitute, she sends the woman to a "screening" appointment where she is required to have sex "without payment" so as to ensure that the prospective hooker is not a law enforcement officer. Palfrey, who spoke to TSG from Germany, said that agents raiding her home would have found nothing since she did not keep computerized records and regularly shredded documents. Asked about the nature of her clientele, Palfrey called the identity of her johns a "salacious detail" of which she was unaware. "I never kept records," she claimed. "I protected the client's confidentiality...they trusted me." But Palfrey did speculate that she may have come to the attention of federal agents because her operation had somehow intersected with a more high profile case, like that of convicted ex-congressman Randy "Duke" Cunningham. Investigators are reportedly examining charges that a defense contractor provided hookers to Cunningham as part of an influence-peddling scheme. Palfrey did not claim a nexis between her escort service and Cunningham, but invoked the disgraced pol's name while saying that she would wager that the basis for the federal probe of her business "had solely to do with some Duke Cunningham-type bigwig client that got caught up in something and started to say, 'Do you know this?' and 'Do you know that?' And that he might have been able to lead them to somebody." Palfrey, who said she started her service in D.C. because "it's a very liberal, sophisticated, cosmopolitan area," advertised her company as featuring women "23 and older, with two or more years of college education, who either work and/or go to school in the daytime." Palfrey told TSG that she shuttered her escort business in mid-August because her female employees were "driving me crazy. They were a pain in the ass to deal with." She added, "It was just time to start a different life and do different things, move on."

Member #4338
10-10-06, 19:59
Instructive article on the advisability of providing detailed personal info to providers who want to screen you. That's all we need, getting caught up in a big time federal investigation of corrupt politicians. Not me, thank you!



Saw this on Smoking Gun. Anybody use Pamela Martin & Associates escort service?
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1009061hook1.html?link=rssfeed

Palfrey, who spoke to TSG from Germany, said that agents raiding her home would have found nothing since she did not keep computerized records and regularly shredded documents. Asked about the nature of her clientele, Palfrey called the identity of her johns a "salacious detail" of which she was unaware. "I never kept records," she claimed. "I protected the client's confidentiality...they trusted me." But Palfrey did speculate that she may have come to the attention of federal agents because her operation had somehow intersected with a more high profile case, like that of convicted ex-congressman Randy "Duke" Cunningham. Investigators are reportedly examining charges that a defense contractor provided hookers to Cunningham as part of an influence-peddling scheme. Palfrey did not claim a nexis between her escort service and Cunningham, but invoked the disgraced pol's name while saying that she would wager that the basis for the federal probe of her business "had solely to do with some Duke Cunningham-type bigwig client that got caught up in something and started to say, 'Do you know this?' and 'Do you know that?' And that he might have been able to lead them to somebody."

Heavy Dog
10-11-06, 19:23
I cruised the West Virginia Ave. area for much of the time that I have been in town and this is what I have seen so far: Between Florida Ave.and Mt Olivet Rd, there has not been a lot of action. Most of the action has moved to the area bordered by Mt.Olivet Rd, Corcoran St,Galludet St,Fenwick St and West Virginia Ave. This is a tough area, especially at night, so caution would be advised. Met Virginia,BSW,60 yrs old-yes,that's how old she is and she will be 61 in January-on Fenwick St. between Galludet St and Capitol Ave. Did the deed for $25 at her place nearby, and have to give her credit-she is still pretty well put together for a 60 year old, and had a pleasant attitude as well. The next day,met Trina,BSW,30-35 yrs old at Central and Galludet and did the deed in the car for $25. Later that day, went over to Minnesota Ave and met Tracy,BSW,35-40 yrs old on Minnesota Ave. and Ames St. Went to her place near East Capitol and Minnesota Ave and did the deed for $30. In closing,I learned from Trina that the reason some BSW's have gone to the areas where I met her is because LE is too hot on West Va Ave between Fla.Av and Mt.Olivet Rd,which might be true as I noticed quite a few in that area while I was passing thru. Minnesota Ave.from Benning Rd. to Good Hope Rd. is a area that should be checked out, as I saw 4 BSW's along that area. Hope This Helps.

Mighty Spearsman
10-12-06, 04:46
If you haven't heard, a military coup happened in Thailand today. Usually means all transportation is locked down. If any of you are there, take care of yourself. Good luck.


I was leaving for Thailand on the 23rd for a 3 week stay, but that is on hold for now. My g/f said things are not good at the moment and there is a lot of uncertainty. I will update as I get more info.
Actually the military coup was a bloodless coup and things got back to normal fairly quickly, so I hope that no one cancelled their planned mongering trip to Bangkok.

Especially after reading the following recent post about Washington, DC:


I cruised the West Virginia Ave. area …most of the action has moved to the area bordered by Mt.Olivet Rd, Corcoran St,Galludet St,Fenwick St and West Virginia Ave. This is a tough area, especially at night, so caution would be advised. Met Virginia, BSW, 60 yrs old - yes, that's how old she is and she will be 61 in January - on Fenwick St. between Galludet St and Capitol Ave. Did the deed for $25 at her place nearby, and have to give her credit - she is still pretty well put together for a 60 year old, and had a pleasant attitude as well...

Yes, that's a tough area, and ..."Virginia, BSW, 60 yrs old"? I'm speechless :)

Trick Williams
10-13-06, 15:13
I cruised the West Virginia Ave. area for much of the time that I have been in town and this is what I have seen so far: Between Florida Ave.and Mt Olivet Rd, there has not been a lot of action. Most of the action has moved to the area bordered by Mt.Olivet Rd, Corcoran St,Galludet St,Fenwick St and West Virginia Ave. This is a tough area, especially at night, so caution would be advised. Met Virginia,BSW,60 yrs old-yes,that's how old she is and she will be 61 in January-on Fenwick St. between Galludet St and Capitol Ave. Did the deed for $25 at her place nearby, and have to give her credit-she is still pretty well put together for a 60 year old, and had a pleasant attitude as well. The next day,met Trina,BSW,30-35 yrs old at Central and Galludet and did the deed in the car for $25. Later that day, went over to Minnesota Ave and met Tracy,BSW,35-40 yrs old on Minnesota Ave. and Ames St. Went to her place near East Capitol and Minnesota Ave and did the deed for $30. In closing,I learned from Trina that the reason some BSW's have gone to the areas where I met her is because LE is too hot on West Va Ave between Fla.Av and Mt.Olivet Rd,which might be true as I noticed quite a few in that area while I was passing thru. Minnesota Ave.from Benning Rd. to Good Hope Rd. is a area that should be checked out, as I saw 4 BSW's along that area. Hope This Helps.

I know Mrs. Virginia... I saw her last weekend while I was out... For a 60 year old she use to have a huge phat ass which I enjoyed during the spring time... However, I was shocked when I saw her last weekend... I didnt date her but I stopped to chat with her a bit... She has lost a lot of weight... I asked her what happend and she said she had sugery not to long ago(yeah right)... Im scared she's hitting that rock too hard or AIDES cause she has lost a lot of weight... Her ass has shrunk so much...Becareful out there folks.

Randy Farang
10-14-06, 16:36
Am I the only one who has noticed that the Post has carried ads for AMPs in Virginia and Maryland, but not a single one for a D.C. location since the troubles?

I've wondered if the fact that the ombudsman (actually an ombudswoman) wrote a scathing piece about the hypocracy of the paper running articles on the evil of sexually oriented establishments at the same time that they were accepting money from those same establishments to advertise in the papers has caused another WaPo decision.

Some years back they decided that if they refused all ads for guns and ammunition they would be both idiologically pure and there would be no more gun related crimes in their publishing area. Could they have made a similiar decision regarding advertising for businesses located in the District?

Knowing how much impact their decision on not advertising guns and ammo has had on the rate of gun related crimes in the District, I suspect that they won't have too much impact in this area either. And, if the lack of D.C. ads is the result of a new policy banning ads for D.C. establishments, does that mean that they have given up on all those heathens in the suburbs of Maryland and Virginia?

LexLuther
10-15-06, 09:00
Randy,

You make an excellent point. I lived in DC when you could buy guns there and in my opinion it was a much safer place. I now live in a state where an honest individual with no criminal background, no history of insanity or domestic abuse, etc., can apply for and will receive a permit to carry a pistol for his own protection and that of his family.

There is some murder in this area, but one feels much safer knowing that he/she is able to protect himself in a clutch situation. Very few people abuse the right.

This, it seems, is a much better way to handle the gun crime issue. Seems to me however that no one has tried a similarly intelligent approach to "sex" issues. Why doesn't some forward thinking community legalize AMP's and then try to regualate them, tax them, etc.?

Lex

Junky11
11-01-06, 14:51
Randy,

You make an excellent point. I lived in DC when you could buy guns there and in my opinion it was a much safer place. I now live in a state where an honest individual with no criminal background, no history of insanity or domestic abuse, etc., can apply for and will receive a permit to carry a pistol for his own protection and that of his family.

There is some murder in this area, but one feels much safer knowing that he/she is able to protect himself in a clutch situation. Very few people abuse the right.

This, it seems, is a much better way to handle the gun crime issue. Seems to me however that no one has tried a similarly intelligent approach to "sex" issues. Why doesn't some forward thinking community legalize AMP's and then try to regualate them, tax them, etc.?

Lex

Some community did just what you said, its called Nevada and they taxed the hell out of the brothels to the point that the price isn't worth the service.

Benchseats Rock
11-01-06, 16:06
Some community did just what you said, its called Nevada and they taxed the hell out of the brothels to the point that the price isn't worth the service.


It's only crazy in Nevada because it's only legal in Nevada. If it were legal everywhere there is no way that anyone could justify those prices. Look at Canada - a couple of hundred dollars can get you anything you would want, from a veritable menu of providers - all legal and in the privacy of your hotel room.

Dick North
11-01-06, 20:06
Randy,

You make an excellent point. I lived in DC when you could buy guns there and in my opinion it was a much safer place. I now live in a state where an honest individual with no criminal background, no history of insanity or domestic abuse, etc., can apply for and will receive a permit to carry a pistol for his own protection and that of his family.

There is some murder in this area, but one feels much safer knowing that he/she is able to protect himself in a clutch situation. Very few people abuse the right.

This, it seems, is a much better way to handle the gun crime issue. Seems to me however that no one has tried a similarly intelligent approach to "sex" issues. Why doesn't some forward thinking community legalize AMP's and then try to regualate them, tax them, etc.?

Lex

LexLuther,

Just want to applaud you for a courageous stand in support of the 2nd Amendment. I understand that many of us feel that restricting gun ownership will solve crime. Unfortunately that rarely is successful.

Too bad the Framers could not conceive of an article to make "engagement of a willing adult male and adult female for paid sex" a constitutional right.

DN

Sleazebum
11-01-06, 22:06
From my office in Virginia I can see across the river into Washington and I realize exactly what a giant gap exists between the two governments.

The crime rate in DC is terrible! It drifts over into Maryland simply because there is no river to save those people from all the evil.

The crime rate in Virginia is markedly lower.

Why?

Two reason:

Virginia people are allowed to have weapons in their homes. In DC only the criminal has weapons

Virginia kills her killers. DC gives them free room and board for a few years and then lets them out to do it again.

IF the good people of Washington were allowed to protect themselves from those hoods and shot a few of them, the crime rate would drop considerably.

IF the DC government began to kill its killers, the murder rate would likewise drop.

SO - give the good people of the District weapons, bring back the death penalty, and watch!

The first month or two will probably be a blood bath as the vermin are exterminated but after that there will be peace!

And with peace will come more AMPs for us all to visit, even late at night, in safety!

JJ

Opposing arguments will be ignored...

Now! Where is that BBBJTCCIMNQNS I am looking for?

Benchseats Rock
11-01-06, 23:35
From my office in Virginia I can see across the river into Washington and I realize exactly what a giant gap exists between the two governments.

The crime rate in DC is terrible! It drifts over into Maryland simply because there is no river to save those people from all the evil.

The crime rate in Virginia is markedly lower.

Why?

Two reason:

Virginia people are allowed to have weapons in their homes. In DC only the criminal has weapons

Virginia kills her killers. DC gives them free room and board for a few years and then lets them out to do it again.

IF the good people of Washington were allowed to protect themselves from those hoods and shot a few of them, the crime rate would drop considerably.

IF the DC government began to kill its killers, the murder rate would likewise drop.

SO - give the good people of the District weapons, bring back the death penalty, and watch!

The first month or two will probably be a blood bath as the vermin are exterminated but after that there will be peace!

And with peace will come more AMPs for us all to visit, even late at night, in safety!

JJ

Opposing arguments will be ignored...

Now! Where is that BBBJTCCIMNQNS I am looking for?


Do I detect a fellow disciple of KDT here?

WiseBorn
11-10-06, 17:31
I recently came across a site that sells alibi's to give to your S/O when you're out doing your thing. Has anybody used this before? They also say they accept payment by Money orders. Is this too good to be true?

Benchseats Rock
11-10-06, 18:40
I recently came across a site that sells alibi's to give to your S/O when you're out doing your thing. Has anybody used this before? They also say they accept payment by Money orders. Is this too good to be true?


If you need an alibi, just give her my number. Tell her whatever you want, just email me first. If you still want to pay me, I won't say no. Of course, you'll need to tell me to turn on my phone first....

WiseBorn
11-11-06, 15:39
If you need an alibi, just give her my number. Tell her whatever you want, just email me first. If you still want to pay me, I won't say no. Of course, you'll need to tell me to turn on my phone first....
LOL good one Bench

Baltimonger
11-12-06, 00:17
From my office in Virginia I can see across the river into Washington and I realize exactly what a giant gap exists between the two governments.

The crime rate in DC is terrible! It drifts over into Maryland simply because there is no river to save those people from all the evil.
DC murders are about drugs, and gang violence. LE does not go after the perpetrators very hard, due to the fact that the killers will eventually become the next round of bodies with chalk outlines around them. Maryland gets the spill-over, especially in PG county, because we are bleeding heart liberal and think we need to welcome DC's welfare and section 8 rejects with open arms. DC is actually getting safer, because of no new section 8's, and gentrification.

As you looked across the river, you probably saw right past the real reasons for the difference in crime rates. Look at the people, their economic and social status, and their environment. Maryland just got through a governor's race where O'Malley was blamed for the fact that crime was high, and education was terrible in Baltimore city. He had nothing to do with those problems, and he can do little, if anything to fix them. The kids there don't grow up with 2 loving parents who teach them properly from day 1; not just book knowledge, but everyday life. The parents were never taught properly themselves.



The crime rate in Virginia is markedly lower.

Why?

Two reason:

Virginia people are allowed to have weapons in their homes. In DC only the criminal has weapons
I don't oppose gun ownership, and feel that the people of DC are denied this constitutional right, as well as more important rights: Right to truly self-govern, and the right to representation in Congress.

I lived in Richmond in the early 90's, in a bad part of town (Blackwell, along Jeff Davis in southern Richmond). I feel safer walking in most parts of DC than I ever felt there. The crime is just as bad, or worse. Socioeconomic factors contribute to crime, not lack of gun ownership.


Virginia kills her killers. DC gives them free room and board for a few years and then lets them out to do it again.
Wrong. DC has life without parole. You cannot execute anyone for less than capital murder anywhere in the US, at least you're not supposed to. Whether or not the death penalty is applied in a murder case seems to have more to do with the prosecuting jurisdiction's prevailing attitude, and racial makeup. Baltimore City had only one person on Maryland’s death row, but suburban Baltimore County, with one tenth as many murders as the city, had nine times the number on death row. (L. Montgomery, Md. Questioning Local Extremes on Death Penalty, Wash. Post, May 12, 2002). Ineffective guidelines and constraints in the capital sentencing process can result in decision-makers falling back on their prejudices about who are the worst kind of criminals or who are the more sympathetic victims. Many factors other than the gravity of the crime or the culpability of the offender appear to affect death sentences, including geography, race, gender, and access to adequate counsel.(deathpenaltyinfo.org)


Death penalty in Virginia:
There have been 97 executions since the death penalty was re-enacted 10-1-1975. The first was in 1982. 8 of the sentencees were those who volunteered themselves to be killed in lieu of a life sentence. 4 others were believed to have mental retardation, and at least 3 were hate crimes.
Never underestimate the importance of a good lawyer in a capital murder case. In 1924, High priced Clarence Darrow represented wealthy, well educated Nathan Leopold & Richard Loeb in the trial for the murder of their young neighbor, Bobby Franks. Darrow got his clients to plead guilty in order to eliminate a jury trial. Darrow then only had to plead his arguments to the judge. After Darrow's 12 hour long, heartfelt presentation, the judge handed down sentences of life, plus 99 years for the crimes of murder & kidnapping. Loeb was killed in prison in 1936, at age 30 by a fellow inmate. Loepold was paroled in 1958. He lived in Puerto Rico until his death in 1971. This particular case is required reading in most law schools, and an argument that anyone who is going to be tried in a death penalty case should be entitled to a properly qualified lawyer; even if it means the taxpayers have to foot the bill.


IF the good people of Washington were allowed to protect themselves from those hoods and shot a few of them, the crime rate would drop considerably.
As far as the law-abiding shooting the hoods: Shoot a gang member, see what happens. In other crime: Having a gun in your house won't protect you on the street, as far as getting mugged or assaulted. These things don't happen as portrayed on tv and in the movies. Typically, the perpetrator will come along and bash you over the head with something, and by the time you've figured out what happened they are long gone with your cash.


IF the DC government began to kill its killers, the murder rate would likewise drop.
There has never been any proof that the death penalty has reduced murders anywhere. That isn't the intent of the death penalty. The intent is to be a punishment, not a deterrant.


SO - give the good people of the District weapons, bring back the death penalty, and watch!

The first month or two will probably be a blood bath as the vermin are exterminated but after that there will be peace!
The reference to blood bath & vermin is about Capitol Hill, right?


And with peace will come more AMPs for us all to visit, even late at night, in safety!

JJ
In Right wing; Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly country: AMPs don't exist.

KJ




Opposing arguments will be ignored...
You know me, born in a barn.


Now! Where is that BBBJTCCIMNQNS I am looking for?
Not in NOVA.

LexLuther
11-12-06, 09:50
Baltimonger,

First let me say I respect you and I'm not trying to disrespect you here. Also I most certainly admit that I don't have the answers. But I think that your post does raise some interesting questions.

You state that socioeconomic factors are accountable for high crime. If that is true, and I don't disupute it, then doesn't it make sense to attack the problem by addressing or controlling those socioeconomic factors?

Wouldn't one good way to do this be through better education of our nation's most under-educated children? How about a more equitable distribution of wealth? Of course these things are not going to happen in America. I know that.

I think of a place like Norway, where I have visited and lived. For that matter most of the industrialized countries of Europe seem to have done a better job of it than we have. You could say they are more enlightened than we are. By the way and to keep the discussion somewhat on topic, it is generally not a crime in those countries to pay for sex.

Do they have drug problems in Norway? Yes. Do they have the high crime and murder rates? No.

Friends, America is headed for third-world status. We are failing to educate not just the under-privileged. The public education we provide in even rich counties such as Montgomery in Maryland, and Fairfax in Virginia is wasted on all but a few. For an example, and once again to stay on topic, I recently knew a Korean woman from China whom I met in an amp. She had a high school education. However she knew our alphabet because she had needed to learn it in high school. She had to learn it in order to learn the periodic table of the elements, which she still knew by heart. She had a better grasp of mathematics than many American college graduates.

How will we compete with a country like China? What is needed? Whose fault is it that we don't seem to know? The Democrats are certainly to blame for some of the failures. They were responsible for some of the forward thinking strategies of the 60's and 70's. But they were also guilty of massive waste and corruption. The Republicans still think of this country and its people as a frontier society. One where it's every man for himself. Destroy your neighborhood, your city, your entire land, and move on to something new. It generates income for the multi-national companies on whose boards they sit and in whom they are heavily invested.

Perhaps its time for a new political party. Let's begin it here, now! I move that we create the American Magnificant Party (AMP). I also nominate Pwhipped to run under our banner for president in 2008. Of course we all know what the mascot will be, the beaver.

This message was endorsed by me.

LexLuther
Treasurer

Baltimonger
11-12-06, 10:28
Liberal Democrats wrap themselves up in lost causes. Conservative Republicans wrap themselves up in religion and blind ultra-nationalism. Neither is willing to budge, and find the middle ground. Whites blame the blacks, blacks blame the whites. We all blame Mexicans, and say we need to build a fence. For every Rush Limbaugh there is an Al Franken. For every Bill O'Reilly there is a Bill Maher. For every Ann Coulter there is God, or at least a Michael Moore. If we can get the respective parties to give up their pet causes and special interests, maybe we can get things done. I voted Democrat again this year. I am against gay marriage, and for gun rights. I am for the death penalty, but want the entire process to be revisited to help remove all doubt as to its proper implementation. I am pro choice, and I don't understand why the Republican party has adopted overturning Roe v Wade as a cause. Abortions cover the spectrum of social, economic, religious, and political factors. I know a Sikh Indian woman who had an abortion because her husband didn't want the baby. What if Bill Maher knocked up Ann Coulter? What would she do if she didn't want this little demon from being born, flapping its left and right wings?

As far as changing the socioeconomic factors, much easier said than done. Some would say: "Why should we care?" There's money to be made off the sufferings of others. Baltimore has a new slogan: "Get In On It". It sounds like some kind of pyramid scheme is going on up there.

There are people out there who actually believe our government is in control of America. Dig deep, you'll find the truth.

Benchseats Rock
11-12-06, 14:27
What if Bill Maher knocked up Ann Coulter?

The ramifications of this are mind boggling to say the very least. Having been a seminarian at one point in my life though, I would have to say that this union could be the one to bring about the antichrist. That is of course if you believe in christ to begin with....

Then again, I suppose if it did happen at the very least we'd get a review from good old Bill about Ms. Coulter - that is if he's not a fucking lurker - I wonder what she charges anyway.



Benchseats Rock

Razors
11-12-06, 18:41
Do not come to the Fool for questions,come to the Fool for answers.


Baltimonger,
I think of a place like Norway, where I have visited and lived. For that matter most of the industrialized countries of Europe seem to have done a better job of it than we have. You could say they are more enlightened than we are.

Do they have drug problems in Norway? Yes. Do they have the high crime and murder rates? No.
They are not enlightened, they are statist rather than individualistic. The state takes much greater care of the individual from cradle to grave which reduces some of the impetus for crime. While this sounds great, substituting the state as Big Parent (a benevolent version of Big Brother) essentially infantilizes its citizens. What is the result? Children do not breed. Every state that is a member of the EU is undergoing a population drain. Germany, Italy, Spain and Greece have a birth rpelacement rate of approximately 1.2 children per women (including immigration). In less than two generations their economies will not be sustainable - too many penisoneers and not enough youths paying into the system. You know the talk here in the US about Social Security being unsustainable? Greece is already there. Those states are in a "death spiral" and can be brought out of it. The increasingly rare youth of the society will flee to other economies because they not want 80% of their income taken from them to pay exorbitant penisons to the elderly. The elderly majority will not agree to change the system.

There is NOTHING enlightened about the statist approach. European statism is what created communism, fascism and the current unsustainable socialist utopianism of the EU.

Finally, the chickens are coming home to roost as regards to their failure to assimilate their immigrant populations. Crime is significantly on the rise but because it is disproportionately performed by the non-caucasian underclass it is not reported in the statist media because they feel it racist to report that (for example) while muslims consiste of 15% of the population in Sweden they commit 80% of the rapes. Not to mention France, they are only losing 100 cars a night in rioting that somehow doesnt make the press. Can you imagine a series of riots performed by a single ethno-religious group in the US where 100 cars are torched a night and National Guard is not called out and it doesnt make the lead story of the Main Stream Media every night?



Friends, America is headed for third-world status. We are failing to educate not just the under-privileged. The public education we provide in even rich counties such as Montgomery in Maryland, and Fairfax in Virginia is wasted on all but a few.

Agreed the American undergraduate education system needs a kick in the ass, standards not feel good cliches about the role of minorities in the US are what we need. What most people do not factor in is the collegiate system in America as providing a "second chance" to mast americans. We have a robust system of community colleges providing opportunities to citizens that other countries lack. -- Guess why Belgium has one of the highest ranking school systems. 100% school choice. The state pays a fee for all students and the parents get to pick which school their kid goes to. Pure market force. Incredibly difficult to believe about an EU country.

Anyway, no matter how much one may hate the Prez, the American economy has been growing at over double the rate of Europe. Europe is headed for third world status, not the US. People point to statistics like infant mortality and say the US is already a third world state. The problem is that the parameters are not consistent. In the US, any child that is born is factored into the death stats so a premie carried only to the 6th month that dies is considered an infant death. In Spain, an infant that dies within 48 hours of birth (full term or premie) is not considered an infant death.



How will we compete with a country like China? What is needed? Whose fault is it that we don't seem to know?


Despite all the hand wringing about China, it will not be a super power at least in the first half of this century. Why? Simple demographics. Like Europe, it is an aging population. The 'One Child' policy means that China will get old before it gets (super) powerful. The highly male population (due to parents aborting female fetuses) will provide China will something like 4 women to 5 men for the forseeable future. This suggests to me that they will be militant and aggressive power, but not an economic superpower.



The Republicans still think of this country and its people as a frontier society. One where it's every man for himself. Destroy your neighborhood, your city, your entire land, and move on to something new. It generates income for the multi-national companies on whose boards they sit and in whom they are heavily invested.


Oh spare me. Ever see "Team America"?
"Let me explain to you how this works: you see, the corporations finance Team America, and then Team America goes out... and the corporations sit there in their... in their corporation buildings, and... and, and see, they're all corporation-y... and they make money."

Republicans believe that our jobs are worth more than the survival of the Spotted Owl. Guess what, you go to the vast majority of Americans and ask if they want to save the Spotted Owl and they will say 'sure' and many will even be willing to pay some taxes and even sacrifice someone else's job for the owl. BUT, how many are willing to say "yes" when the question is "are you willing to lose your job in order to save the Spotted Owl"?

Traditional Republicans are individualistic realists (exemtping the neocon nation builders that brought us Iraq). Democrats are statist idealists.

But don't listen to me, I'm just a mongering Fool

Drew Park
11-12-06, 18:58
What do the recent string of lengthy posts have to do with getting laid in Metro DC??

If you want to comment on national & international politics, recommend you try:

www.washingtonpost.com

Baltimonger
11-12-06, 19:27
There is a thread for fucking AMP girls: Massage Parlor Reports.
There is a thread for fucking streetwalkers: Streetwalker Reports.
There is a thread for fucking escorts: Escort Reports.
This is General Reports, which is naturally for fucking Generals.



Then again, I suppose if it did happen at the very least we'd get a review from good old Bill about Ms. Coulter - that is if he's not a fucking lurker
He'd say she's got mad skills and a wicked tongue.

LexLuther
11-12-06, 19:49
Fool4FishNets,

I'm not going to waste my time answering all of your ignorant blather. What I will say is that you are obviously a product of the great educational system in this country. Did you even bother to spell-check your post? No. Your grammar is atrocious.

The president and his cronies are always bragging about job creation. In case you have not noticed, the decent jobs either have gone, are going, or will go in the future to places like Mexico, India, and China. Look at anything new in your home, whether it be a TV, laptop computer, ceramic mug, article of clothing, printer, or digital camera. Excellent chance it was made in China.

It's true that jobs are being created in this country. But economists call them McJobs. They are low skill jobs paying low wages, offering little or so security, and no chance for advancement. They are jobs for the working poor. The reason our economy continues to grow as our jobs flow overseas is that Americans are still in the habit of spending every last cent they earn. Buying a lot of useless crap makes Americans feel good. They feel good until they are faced with a catastrophic illness or putting their children through college. Then they don't feel so good and they start blaming the blacks and the Mexicans for all of their problems.

The rioting and car burning in France ceased months ago. That's why it is not being reported. It's old news you fool. But when people in France do riot, the government pays attention. You don't see Germans or French exporting their best jobs the way America does. They have strong unions who would shut the country down if the government were to export good jobs.

I personally don't care what kind of crap you believe. Keep your head up your ass as long as you like. It's a natural look for you.

By the way, if you had gone to a real college or university and not the high school for adults which you attended, you would realize how ass-backward your thinking is. Karl Marx and Friederich Engels lived in the 19th century. Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto in 1848. At that time, what you call "statism" did not exist. Germany did not exist as a country. It was a collection of principalities. If anything, Marx and his philosophies gave rise to the modern socialist state. Not vice versa as you state.

LexLuther

Benchseats Rock
11-12-06, 20:49
What do the recent string of lengthy posts have to do with getting laid in Metro DC??

If you want to comment on national & international politics, recommend you try:

www.washingtonpost.com


A Washington D.C. forum that occasionally gets sidetracked by politics. Hmmmm.... imagine that. Now factor in the pain in the ass it is to read some politics from your brother mongers and balance it against the wealth of information you've gleaned from these hallowed pages.



Benchseats Rock

Robux
11-12-06, 20:54
Gentlemongers,

I have created a new thread for the purpose of sharing of our various political opinions. Why? Because sooner than later we will run out of generals to fuck, right KJ?

Robux

Razors
11-13-06, 10:01
REPORT:
I cruised down Rhode Island in DC on Friday night around 1:30 am (so to be precise - Saturday morning). There were two BSWs who provided "the look". One was tub about 1 block south of the 7/11. Guessing 5'6", 200 lbs. The other was slim, about 5'4" 120 lbs but gawd awful ugly up close. I have never made a successful pickup on that stretch. Once I picked up one huge hootered honey but she wanted too much (I dont always over pay) so cut her loose. I am interested to know where these ladies go to park, the area is highly developed and I know of no convenient private places to which one might retire.

RETORT
ROBUX, my admiration for your presence on the board grows. You know well the phrase "a soft answer turneth away wrath" too bad for me I am inclined towards the grevious word (Proverbs 15:1)

As for the ineffable Lex, why the personal attack? I am a Fool, not an idiot.


Fool4FishNets,
I'm not going to waste my time answering all of your ignorant blather........
The rioting and car burning in France ceased months ago. That's why it is not being reported. It's old news you fool.


Please answer only this

Updated: 9:35 p.m. ET Oct 28, 2006
CLICHY-SOUS-BOIS, France - Marauding youths torched hundreds of vehicles overnight and on Saturday in renewed violence coinciding with the first anniversary of riots that exposed a deep schism between poor North African immigrants and mainstream France...........
Six police were injured and 47 people were arrested, ministry officials said. Still the Interior Ministry described the night as “relative calm,” noting that up to 100 cars are torched by youths in troubled neighborhoods on an average night.

source:
www(dot)msnbc.msn.com/id/15424638/


Would a reasonable person think that an apology from Lex to the Fool is due?

LexLuther
11-13-06, 18:36
Fool,

Lex apologizes.

LexLuther

"Discussion is an exchange of knowledge; argument an exchange of ignorance." ~Robert Quillen

Trick Williams
11-13-06, 21:03
REPORT:
I cruised down Rhode Island in DC on Friday night around 1:30 am (so to be precise - Saturday morning). There were two BSWs who provided "the look". One was tub about 1 block south of the 7/11. Guessing 5'6", 200 lbs. The other was slim, about 5'4" 120 lbs but gawd awful ugly up close. I have never made a successful pickup on that stretch. Once I picked up one huge hootered honey but she wanted too much (I dont always over pay) so cut her loose. I am interested to know where these ladies go to park, the area is highly developed and I know of no convenient private places to which one might retire.

Its usually hit or miss on Rhode Island... Sometimes you can find chics that have been chased away by LE from downtown and NY ave... Lots of crackheads and lots of LE so be careful... However, I can say I saw a few hopefuls out on Friday night but I didnt make any pick ups.

Robux
11-13-06, 21:44
This board is not for the discussion of men finding women for sex!!! :P It's about politics!!! Can we PLEASE keep on (off) topic? :)

Benchseats Rock
11-13-06, 22:50
This board is not for the discussion of men finding women for sex!!! :P It's about politics!!! Can we PLEASE keep on (off) topic? :)


Fuck 'em on the right! Fuck 'em on the left! Sounds like a threeway to me.
Now I'm going to have to call the hardest working girl in D.C. and see what I can't swing for the weekend.


Benchseats Rock

WiseBorn
11-14-06, 20:03
Its usually hit or miss on Rhode Island... Sometimes you can find chics that have been chased away by LE from downtown and NY ave... Lots of crackheads and lots of LE so be careful... However, I can say I saw a few hopefuls out on Friday night but I didnt make any pick ups.

I agree I saw two track girls on RI ave this saturday night. I couldn't pick up though.

Frank99
11-15-06, 09:37
I was reading over Craigslist last night - DC or MD erotic. I know I have read on this board that some of the women on Craigslist are really SWs. I never paid too much attention to this before.

But I think that this may be correct! I was looking at a picture of a woman named Angel from Laurel who you'll find under MD Craigslist. I DO remember her lips from DC last summer. There are other girls as well, mostly black that I recall as well.

Perhaps this should go under the Craigslist category but maybe we are missing out on the street because the street now runs indoors!!!! I am not fool, I know that there were some very hot women down on K street porking the lobbyists last year. And they are not appearing on Craigslist. So, they are not all on Craigslist. But some seem to be.

Anyone else have this experience or made this observation? PM me if you wish.

Frank

A John
11-15-06, 12:29
I have also found several of the CL girls were also listed on EROS. Many of them used different names. If you do a little digging around you'll also find the prices are very negotiable with the same service.

Happy Hunting
AJ


I was reading over Craigslist last night - DC or MD erotic. I know I have read on this board that some of the women on Craigslist are really SWs. I never paid too much attention to this before.

But I think that this may be correct! I was looking at a picture of a woman named Angel from Laurel who you'll find under MD Craigslist. I DO remember her lips from DC last summer. There are other girls as well, mostly black that I recall as well.

Perhaps this should go under the Craigslist category but maybe we are missing out on the street because the street now runs indoors!!!! I am not fool, I know that there were some very hot women down on K street porking the lobbyists last year. And they are not appearing on Craigslist. So, they are not all on Craigslist. But some seem to be.

Anyone else have this experience or made this observation? PM me if you wish.

Frank

Trick Williams
11-15-06, 22:36
I was reading over Craigslist last night - DC or MD erotic. I know I have read on this board that some of the women on Craigslist are really SWs. I never paid too much attention to this before.

But I think that this may be correct! I was looking at a picture of a woman named Angel from Laurel who you'll find under MD Craigslist. I DO remember her lips from DC last summer. There are other girls as well, mostly black that I recall as well.

Perhaps this should go under the Craigslist category but maybe we are missing out on the street because the street now runs indoors!!!! I am not fool, I know that there were some very hot women down on K street porking the lobbyists last year. And they are not appearing on Craigslist. So, they are not all on Craigslist. But some seem to be.

Anyone else have this experience or made this observation? PM me if you wish.

Frank

You are correct my friend... I thought this was common knowledge??? They use CL so they can jack up the prices for those that dont know that they walk the loop.

Junky11
11-15-06, 23:49
I was reading over Craigslist last night - DC or MD erotic. I know I have read on this board that some of the women on Craigslist are really SWs. I never paid too much attention to this before.

But I think that this may be correct! I was looking at a picture of a woman named Angel from Laurel who you'll find under MD Craigslist. I DO remember her lips from DC last summer. There are other girls as well, mostly black that I recall as well.

Perhaps this should go under the Craigslist category but maybe we are missing out on the street because the street now runs indoors!!!! I am not fool, I know that there were some very hot women down on K street porking the lobbyists last year. And they are not appearing on Craigslist. So, they are not all on Craigslist. But some seem to be.

Anyone else have this experience or made this observation? PM me if you wish.

Frank


There has just about always been a high class escort service in DC that did not appear in this forum, craigslist or on any website. They might advertise in the City Paper. They have very nice women that cater to wealthy clientele. Its 3 to 5 big ones and occasionally more. They usually last 3 to 5 years before they get busted.

Saiyen
11-17-06, 01:39
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/ers/235886703.html

Yeah she used to have this Old Cadi. I remember getting a cbj from her once after she got her new boobs. Now alot of the SWs like you said are posting on CL and asking for more money but for sure aren't worth it IMHO. This girl looks to be in half decent shape for a SW off of CL so but I would not say it is anywhere near a GFE, more just business.


I was reading over Craigslist last night - DC or MD erotic. I know I have read on this board that some of the women on Craigslist are really SWs. I never paid too much attention to this before.

But I think that this may be correct! I was looking at a picture of a woman named Angel from Laurel who you'll find under MD Craigslist. I DO remember her lips from DC last summer. There are other girls as well, mostly black that I recall as well.

Perhaps this should go under the Craigslist category but maybe we are missing out on the street because the street now runs indoors!!!! I am not fool, I know that there were some very hot women down on K street porking the lobbyists last year. And they are not appearing on Craigslist. So, they are not all on Craigslist. But some seem to be.

Anyone else have this experience or made this observation? PM me if you wish.

Frank

Frank99
11-23-06, 01:49
Well, it is Thanksgiving and I was reflecting on what I am thankful about this year. I spent the evening driving around DC and Baltimore looking for pre-poultry pussy. And it dawned on me. I am pretty much thankful for pussy this year. I did not get any tonight, but I damn sure am thankful for it. Yep, I'm thankful for pussy.

--Frank99

Desert Dude
11-27-06, 18:18
So after calling up Breeze, who has 'left the business' [does have a real, albeit barely over minimum wage job, poor kid], and enjoying her rushed but inspired service, got a call back from Essence. Not a morning person, no surprise there. Told her i'd get back to her in a day or two, but remembered those thumb sized nips and world class ass, so changed my mind. After a few hours of phone tag/ignoring me, we hooked up. She came by with her gf, who i'd met at 'a' bar the night before, who was cool. She hung out in the 2nd room, watching tv, but, only after i asked, Ess said she was available too, for an extra .7, on top of the 1.2. Nah, but thanks. Inspired dbj, cowgirl, then whatever ya call doggie when her legs are between yours. Lots of joking around, laughing, flirting, an all around fun time. Will repeat if i get a chance.

A John
12-07-06, 16:18
Something from one of our friends in Illinois I stumbled upon.

I was not sure where to post this, so I guess General Reports keeps it safe. In my never ending search for free porn I came across this site which is unbelievable. There is something for everyone and every fetish. Now if we can only bring cameras into MP's.

http://yuvutu.com



P.S. Here is my favorite so far. I don't think I will get too much work done the next few days.
http://yuvutu.com/modules.php?name=...ew&video_id=885

Careful of volume

Drew Park
12-07-06, 18:00
Now if we can only bring cameras into MP's.

Those type of videos ARE out there. I've seen them. If I can find them again, I'll post the URLs for you guys.

Hugh Jardon
12-08-06, 14:59
Well done, AJ!
I haven't gotten any work done today, thanks to you.

Something from one of our friends in Illinois I stumbled upon.

I was not sure where to post this, so I guess General Reports keeps it safe. In my never ending search for free porn I came across this site which is unbelievable. There is something for everyone and every fetish. Now if we can only bring cameras into MP's.

http://yuvutu.com



P.S. Here is my favorite so far. I don't think I will get too much work done the next few days.
http://yuvutu.com/modules.php?name=...ew&video_id=885

Careful of volume

A John
12-08-06, 18:22
Your 2-Funny

Well done, AJ!
I haven't gotten any work done today, thanks to you.

Member #4917
12-10-06, 09:27
Good Shit.

Thanks


Something from one of our friends in Illinois I stumbled upon.

I was not sure where to post this, so I guess General Reports keeps it safe. In my never ending search for free porn I came across this site which is unbelievable. There is something for everyone and every fetish. Now if we can only bring cameras into MP's.

http://yuvutu.com

P.S. Here is my favorite so far. I don't think I will get too much work done the next few days.

http://yuvutu.com/modules.php?name=...ew&video_id=885

Careful of volume

LoveLOS
01-03-07, 03:12
There have been several requests for a re-reporting of the last RT we had in September of 2006. Reports of the alleged incidents were posted by LL, BSR, Fool, Officer Back and Wiseone. The posts were all deleted. It was a notable party, and really deseves to be put back into our collective history. This is especially true because BSR and LL wish to have another one where we really pull out the stops.

Others may choose to recount thier versions of the incidents. Especially sought after are reports from Wiesone and the Fool.

The cast of characters (not in any particular order):
BDub
Loop
Robie
Motormouth
Wiseone
Rev
The Fool
Seva
BSR
LoveLOS

Angelique
Essence
Special

The party was hosted by our premier master of ceremonies, BW. Robie directed traffic. Motor and LL flew in from halfway across the nation to be there. With his typical arrogance, LL arrived late and announced the party can now begin.

Within 5 minutes of walking into the door, two shots of El Jimador, and one shot of Gran Marnier helped to get LL up to speed with the other members, with exception of officer Back, who was apparently on duty. While it was noted that he really does look like a cop, you gotta remember that BSR and LL really look like undercover vice/narcotics detectives. Howya gonna win?

A word about the ladies: HOT! LL's relationship with Lique is long and well read. And he had shared several special moments with Special. Essence was new to him at that time, and LL wanted that thang. I was also shocked that, in over an hour before he arrived, nobody had ventured upstairs to spend any quality time with the ladies. I was deeply disappointed in my comrades.

BSR and LL did some taste comparison with El Jimmy and Patrone. It was close, but I guess it was fortunate that we didn't have a bottle of the Don, or a functional LL may not have been there to started the orgy... A quick word with Lique to assure her we would be dating that night, and I started shopping. Now the Fool was politely sitting beside Essence, and so I asked permission before taking her upstairs. The Fool let me have her...

We negotiated our transaction and had just begun when Special entered the bedroom and asked to join us. Now, Essence actually prefers ladies, so she was all about it, and LL prefers kinky, so this was looking good. A bit of renegotiation and the threesome resumed where the twosome had left off. The first round for LL was accomplished orally by a very talented Essence.

Understand the layout of the party place was that the bedroom overlooked the main party area with several portals. Noise from the rooms can be heard in the opposing area, which caused some interesting dynamics. During our first break, Essence and Special asked for other to join us. Lique and Wiseone answered the call. Now you know why I call him Wise. Much to the chagrin of the guys below, Lique started her famous oral work on LL while he lounged at the window, buck nekkid. There are those who are scarred for life from hearing the sounds of sex and then looking up to see my ass. :D

Wise was getting comfortable on the bed when two things were said. Essence invited Lique to join her, and Special made comment about three holes... The next 20 minutes were pure ecstacy... Here is the scene, worth the mental picture: Wise is on the bed getting head from Essence, who is being likewise serviced from behind by Lique. Special leaned over the foot frame to caress Lique's ass while I was enjoying her third hole. This went on to completion by LL and Wise. I needed rejuvination, which Lique provided while I watched Essence fuck Wise's brains out.

During a second break, I asked for some more alcohol. The Fool, thinking I was done, came up with the requested refreshment and decided he needed to reconsider his claim on Essence. Now I wanted to fuck her, but it just wasn't in the cards that night. (I fixed that a month later!)

Round three for LL went something like this: Wise went downstairs to recuperate. LL was sprawled across the bed. Special did not want DATY, so Lique climbed on my face and Special climbed on my dick. Essence was within reach, so I fondled her tits while she was ministering to the Fool. Here is where this inside joke originated:
Just a note, I absolutely did NOT get between LL and any female orifice - that would be a dangerous thing to do. I will note for the record his nipples are just too hairy for me.So what happened. In a moment of pure foolishness, the shit for brains reached over and pinched my nipple! What a fucking hoot. Fivesome sex and we are all cracking up...

The fool really is a shy kinda guy, so he eventually took Essence into the bathroom to finish her. So Fool, Is that like a Freudian thing from the old days at TBWNN? We finally all went downstairs to rest and get drunk.

Bench, do you still have that pic of Lique sprawled nekkid across five mongers? It needs to be re-posted also! Some good natured male bonding occurred and the party generally dispersed. Finally, only BW the voyeur, Wise the insatiable, Lique the sex goddess and LL the pervert were left. Wise wanted to sample Lique's amazing oral abilities, and LL wanted to get some of that sweet pussy, doggy style... One more threesome, with the voyeur enjoying the live porn, drink in hand; and we were done for the night.

How will the next RT be better? Cum and find out.

LoveLOS

Disclaimer: This account sounds completely unbelievable. It is. I made it all up. Stay away from RT's as they are really very tedious and boring. Note to LEOs, this alleged party was a private affair between consenting adults. No animals were harmed in the making of this work of fiction, although some pussies took a beating, and several cast members required psychiatric evaluation before returning to civilian life.

Benchseats Rock
01-03-07, 03:32
Bench, do you still have that pic of Lique sprawled nekkid across five mongers? It needs to be re-posted also!


Click to see RT pic of Lique (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=477273&postcount=35)

I believe this is the pic you're talking about - and everyone was paranoid that I was going to get their faces on camera... ha! I'd be more embarrassed to be caught on film wearing a pair of torn jeans. Keerist.. if I'm paying more attention to the jeans I think I may be in need of a RT before the RT. I will add my memories of the RT later on, Ms. Benchseats is being demanding at the moment, which is never a bad thing ;)

Enjoy!

Benchseats Rock

LoveLOS
01-03-07, 03:42
I think I may be in need of a RT before the RT. I will add my memories of the RT later on, Ms. Benchseats is being demanding at the moment, which is never a bad thing ;)

Give my warm regards to Ms BSR.

Re: your comment about an RT before the RT: What is it about great minds, brothers from a different mother, and that sort of shit? Damn, after posting that last report, and now thinking of your present circumstances, the 'burg seems like it might as well be Siberia...

LL

WiseBorn
01-03-07, 16:03
The only thing I can add was that that was the Hottest threesome I had in quite awhile. head from Lique is truly something everyman should experince in his lifetime.

Pcpc1688
01-03-07, 21:17
Give my warm regards to Ms BSR.

Re: your comment about an RT before the RT: What is it about great minds, brothers from a different mother, and that sort of shit? Damn, after posting that last report, and now thinking of your present circumstances, the 'burg seems like it might as well be Siberia.

LLHey LL,

You musta been the HAND OF GOD> LOL. Where was my invite. Hehe. I am baldong but not at a quick rate, those that help?

PC out

LoveLOS
01-05-07, 15:13
Hey LL,

You musta been the HAND OF GOD> LOL. Where was my invite. Hehe. I am baldong but not at a quick rate, those that help?

PC out
PCP,
:D

Lots of testosterone speeds the balding process. Personally, I prefer to burn the testosterone, adreneline, and other bodily fluids that build up in your system and cause undesirable health consequences.

LL

VanDriver
01-08-07, 10:26
Not sure if this is the place to post this question... But, here goes:

I have noticed in the past (in movies and real life) that certain ladies will go ahead with a BBBJ, but then insist on a CFS instead of BBFS. Then, some even go further to finish after the CFS with a BBBJCIM.

If they are going to give a BBBJ and maybe even finish with a CIM, what would the reason be for requiring CFS? I am sure it could not be pregnancy.

Van

Jet Ranger
01-08-07, 12:09
Now if we can only bring cameras into MP's.Actually, I have done that. A regular provider I was particularly close to allowed me to bring in a compact point and shoot digital camera during a session and allowed me to photograph her in her spa wear (extremely revealing hot pink bikini top, thong bottom, and tight hot pants partially covering her thong.)

I called her in advance and asked her for her consent before I brought the camera in. She trusts me and approved on the condition that I would not post images of her on the internet since it was a true portrait, face and all, and I have respected her wish for privacy. The quality of the image was far better than what you can get with a cell phone camera.

I'm sure the mamasan would have really been pissed if she found out, but the image is a great memento of a really special girl and our really special times together, especially since she was presumably detained on Black Wednesday at an AMP she was working at (not in the DC area.)

I was somewhat concerned that the flash going off might show beneath the closed door, but apparently it wasn't a problem. I showed the provider the images and she approved one she liked the best and we deleted the other ones off my camera's memory card.

Big Red50
01-08-07, 16:24
Not sure if this is the place to post this question... But, here goes:

I have noticed in the past (in movies and real life) that certain ladies will go ahead with a BBBJ, but then insist on a CFS instead of BBFS. Then, some even go further to finish after the CFS with a BBBJCIM.

If they are going to give a BBBJ and maybe even finish with a CIM, what would the reason be for requiring CFS? I am sure it could not be pregnancy.

VanThe reason for CFS, is to prevent sexually transmitted diseases.

All ways covering little red for FS and anal

Big Red

VanDriver
01-08-07, 20:17
The reason for CFS, is to prevent sexually transmitted diseases.

All ways covering little red for FS and anal

Big Red

Big Red

I understand the need for a condom... But, I was wondering why they required a condom for FS but not for BBBJ.

Van

LoveLOS
01-09-07, 01:32
I understand the need for a condom... But, I was wondering why they required a condom for FS but not for BBBJ.

VanBecause, you need a condom to get CFS. And, if you put a condom on a BBBJ, that would be a CBJ... :p

But the real answer is the rate of transmission of disease is significantly lower for oral than the other holes.

LL

Big Red50
01-09-07, 01:42
The reason for CFS, is to prevent sexually transmitted diseases.

All ways covering little red for FS and anal

Big Red
I understand the need for a condom... But, I was wondering why they required a condom for FS but not for BBBJ.

VanI think Eccrawler stated it most succinctly on the Special Interest-Oral Sex-Oral Sex Reports.


Two thoughts (and a note that I am not a doctor):

1. I have heard it stated that there is some semen in the pre-ejaculate so CFS is suggested to avoid possible pregnancy.

2. The different environments (mouth vs pussy) to which the penis is exposed. Possible bug/viral transmission/pick-up with vaginal penetration? Versus the mouth, saliva and enzymes, etc. And where the next stop is the stomach, a very acidic environment. e.g. yeast infections. Is there such a thing as a mouth yeast infection? I may be wrong; just my 0.02 worth.

EccrawlerHere is a chart indicating STD risks for various sex acts for male and female partners, that was posted on Special Interest- Safe Sex- Safe Sex Reports.

http://www.dph.sf.ca.us/sfcityclinic/stdbasics/stdchart.asp once you read this you will cut off your dick.

Bare back looks cool in the movies but, kids don’t try this at home.

Big Red

LoveLOS
01-10-07, 23:29
Receiving oral sex - man:
KNOWN RISKS:
* Chlamydia
* Gonorrhea
* NGU
* Herpes
* Syphilis

Performing oral sex on a woman:
KNOWN RISKS:
Herpes (RARE)

* Kissing, mutual masturbation, and frottage or dry humping are considered safer sex activities, with little to no risk of STD transmission.
* Using latex condoms (male or female) significantly reduces the risk of contracting STDs during anal, vaginal and oral sex.
* Washing hands and the genital area thoroughly before and after oral-anal sex reduces the risk of transmission of most of the listed STDs and conditions. Condom use reduces transmission risk even further.My dick is intact (didn't cut him off yet) and my tounge is ready to work...

LL

Big Red50
01-11-07, 03:48
My dick is intact (didn't cut him off yet) and my tounge is ready to work.

LLThats because you are a man LL.

I have been getting BBBJ from providers since 1980, I get tested every 3-6 months, never a problem. Anal an vaginal little red allways covered, AIDS is for keeps.

Play safe,

Big Red and little red from Balmer

LoveLOS
01-11-07, 22:04
I have been getting BBBJ from providers since 1980, I get tested every 3-6 months, never a problem. Anal an vaginal little red allways covered, AIDS is for keeps.Agreed, this is a prescription for suck-sex.

In other news, RT is coming up and we have three girls wanting to star in some fantasy that the creative souls at USG would like to concoct. Essence and Special are planning to cum with us. Lady Lique is leaving the country in Feb, so she wants to feel the love before she decides how long she is going to stay on the other side of the planet...

It is going to be a great RT.

Trouble is, we only have three confirmed board members, so right now it is a sixsome...

? :eek: ?


hmmmmmm :rolleyes:

:cool:

fuckit. :D


Thats sound funner than drinkin with some of you clowns, so I'm not going to PM everbody, If ya want to come on the 28th, yes a Sunday night, then PM me so I know how big a suite to get. This may get like the last RT in DC, so if you are new to the site and the inner circle doesn't really know you yet, please wait for a tamer RT before sending that PM...

See you soon,
LoveLOS

BTW-the half dozen condoms... that is for your use, I don't want you beggin from my stash... :D

Benchseats Rock
01-12-07, 02:16
Trouble is, we only have three confirmed board members, so right now it is a sixsome...


Make that four confirmed members. PM for details. You know you want to.

Big Red50
01-12-07, 09:06
Hey LoveAmericanStyle,

I am getting the hang of this nickname thing, or should I say LoveAsianStyle, hell a half dozen condoms will just get me warmed up ,besides they are cheaper by the dozen, or gross.

I will PM you my RT status. See you there, Opps, did I tell every body,

Bringing along little red

Big Red from Balmer

Benchseats Rock
01-12-07, 20:32
You won't believe who I invited to the RT guys. And she said yes.
PM only, Attendees and Inner Circle only.

Wish you were here,

Loopy - you owe me bigtime ;)
LL - you owe me longtime :D


Benchseats Rock

VanDriver
01-14-07, 14:42
Not sure if this is where I should post this PM, but did anybody else get this from Tom Thumbs? I have no idea what the hell he is talking about.

Van

*******************************************************
In a PM from Tom Thumbs, he wrote:


fuck it! let's just do the "BIG KAHUNA"

we'll all meet at the manassas courthouse at 10 am and we'll go into the courtroom and as soon as the judges tries to say anything other then to get a jury to make decisions
we'll arrest the judge and bring them into federal court [that's why we have federal court a place to bring the states into court] charge the judge with treason and demand they be put to death

Benchseats Rock
01-14-07, 15:34
Not sure if this is where I should post this PM, but did anybody else get this from Tom Thumbs? I have no idea what the hell he is talking about.

Van

*******************************************************
In a PM from Tom Thumbs, he wrote:


fuck it! let's just do the "BIG KAHUNA"

we'll all meet at the manassas courthouse at 10 am and we'll go into the courtroom and as soon as the judges tries to say anything other then to get a jury to make decisions
we'll arrest the judge and bring them into federal court [that's why we have federal court a place to bring the states into court] charge the judge with treason and demand they be put to death


I got that too - I have less than no idea as to what the fuck is going on. Not that I would want to anyway, I think this guy is loco.

A John
01-14-07, 17:51
I got that too - I have less than no idea as to what the fuck is going on. Not that I would want to anyway, I think this guy is loco.


Can someone help me I also received this PM? I have to agree maybe Loco.

By the way Bench congratulations:) on your achievements.

Happy Hunting
AJ

Sleazebum
01-14-07, 18:46
Exactly who is this Tom Thumbs guy anyway?

Whatever he is drinking or smoking he needs to pass around!

Tom! IDENTIFY yourself a little!

JJ


Can someone help me I also received this PM? I have to agree maybe Loco.

By the way Bench congratulations:) on your achievements.

Happy Hunting
AJ

LoveLOS
01-17-07, 20:20
DC/Mexico trip and Congrads to Bench Seats Rock Roundtable

Invitations have been sent to RT for the DC roundtable on the night of the 28th. It is a private party, and consenting adults probably will be mixing and matching, so only the trusted inner circle will be invited. If there is nothing in your inbox, there are two possible reasons:

1. You are not inner circle, have not been to or invited to a RT. You need to keep reading, keep posting good (no BS) reports, (gain senior status-helps, not required). In time, the PM will arrive--just not this time. :(

2. If you are inner circle and normally get an invite, it is because you have not effectively communicated to me your intent to be there, and I'm too lazy (and too paranoid) to send out invites to those who can't show. If you can arrange the time, let me know for sure that you will be there and I'll send you the intel. Why must I know for sure? Ladies, my friend, we need to have enough ladies. :D

Bench is planning to show his AVN award winning porn movie as a part of the entertainment.

LoveLOS


The first ten years you drool, the last ten years you drool. The several thousand days and nights in between are for PARTYING.

PimpinMan
01-18-07, 22:00
I know RTFF but I am new to dc I know where the girls are at I just need to know where a hourly notel is close either in the city or closely outside the city I remember one girl telling me about something on Rhode Island. I'm just tired of being paranoid doing the do outside in the open.

LoveLOS
01-19-07, 04:17
I know RTFF but I am new to dc I know where the girls are at I just need to know where a hourly notel is close either in the city or closely outside the city I remember one girl telling me about something on Rhode Island. I'm just tired of being paranoid doing the do outside in the open.

Yes there are a number of hotels on Rhode Island, Georgia and New York Avenues. All reasonable ones are nearing the city limit or in Md.

Hmmm now I have a question. Is taking a ho across state lines some kind of federal offense or does it violate interstate commerce laws? Not that I really give a fuck, but it is an interesting point.

LL

Clixxx
01-19-07, 06:24
Yes there are a number of hotels on Rhode Island, Georgia and New York Avenues. All reasonable ones are nearing the city limit or in Md.

Hmmm now I have a question. Is taking a ho across state lines some kind of federal offense or does it violate interstate commerce laws? Not that I really give a fuck, but it is an interesting point.

LL

Not an attorney but I suspect that it is. The reports on AMP hits references federal laws being violated something like transporting people accross state lines with the intent (key word is intent) to engage in prositiution.

Federal courts dont F*ck around. State courts might give one a break. Suspect it may be prudent to consider staying within the political entity to avoid any federal entanglements.

Never considered it before until you mentioned it LL. It was good question and one I will consider further.

My two cents

Loop Vet
01-19-07, 12:26
I remember one girl telling me about something on Rhode Island. I'm just tired of being paranoid doing the do outside in the open.

she's probably talking about an hourly place on the corner of RI and South Dakota aves NE. i think there's another one up there on RI by 18th street, and there used to be an hourly place closer in on RI that some chick brought me to when I was a nub. Not sure if its still around but it was wild because there were like 10 or so chicks just hanging out there waiting for tricks.

there is an hourly place much closer to the track though. calls itself a tourist hostel. the ho's can tll you where exactly. me too but not here.

PimpinMan
01-19-07, 15:08
Thanks loop that is just enough info to get me going. ohh is it me or is this cold weather keeping the girls inside and driving up the CL prices at the same time.

Big Red50
01-19-07, 15:17
Not an attorney but I suspect that it is. The reports on AMP hits references federal laws being violated something like transporting people accross state lines with the intent (key word is intent) to engage in prositiution.

Federal courts dont F*ck around. State courts might give one a break. Suspect it may be prudent to consider staying within the political entity to avoid any federal entanglements.

Never considered it before until you mentioned it LL. It was good question and one I will consider further.

My two centsInner state transport for the purpose of commiting, soliciting or enabling prostitution, or for conspiracy to commit the said prostitution related activities, is a MD or VA state and federal crime. Coming back, inner state transport or flight to avoid prosecution for commiting, soliciting or enabling prostitution, or for conspiracy to commit the aforesaid prostitution related activities, is a MD or VA state and federal crime.

Take your pick, mongering is great fun but with some risk

Big Red

LoveLOS
01-21-07, 03:58
Take your pick, mongering is great fun but with some risk
I had to laugh. Since we are going to Mexico, you might want to know. Prostitution is illegal, but tollerated in certain zonas, which we will be in. Stupid thing is that crossing the border with the intent to engage in prostitution or other illegal activities violates US law.

Glad I'm just going down there to drink the Tequilla.

LL

Friendly1
01-21-07, 18:17
My inner state is much better after a good spa visit. Whether I travel intra state or inter-state to visit that spa, is a different matter.

Cheers!

F1

Bysshe
01-21-07, 21:33
Inner state transport for the purpose of commiting, soliciting or enabling prostitution, or for conspiracy to commit the said prostitution related activities, is a MD or VA state and federal crime. Coming back, inner state transport or flight to avoid prosecution for commiting, soliciting or enabling prostitution, or for conspiracy to commit the aforesaid prostitution related activities, is a MD or VA state and federal crime.

Take your pick, mongering is great fun but with some risk


Not quite.

18 USC § 2421 criminalizes interstate travel for prostitution. That's a federal crime. I cannot find a Maryland or Virginia law that forbids this, although of course the prostitution is itself illegal in both Maryland and Virginia (VA code § 18.2-346).

The coming back portion of your post is absolutely off base. Federal laws prohibiting flight to avoid prosecution (18 USC § 1073) apply only to flight with the intent to avoid indictment, prosecution, and the like; they do not apply to simply re-crossing a state line following a crime elsewhere.

The conspiracy to commit aspect of your post is also dubious. There is no federal conspiracy crime here, unless both you and the sex worker agree to travel across state lines. You are the only person breakng the federal law; you are not entering into an agreement with anyone else to violate federal law. It's true that you enter into a conspiracy with the provider to commit prostitution, a state crime. But that's a lesser-included offense of the actual crime of prostitution in this instance; there's no separate inchoate crime of conspiracy. Any prosecution for the conspiracy as well as the actual act would merge with the act on conviction.

LoveLOS
01-22-07, 03:22
Bashee,

Wow, impressive. I feel better now...


I think.

?

!






:eek: LL

Big Red50
01-22-07, 05:03
I had to laugh. Since we are going to Mexico, you might want to know. Prostitution is illegal, but tollerated in certain zonas, which we will be in. Stupid thing is that crossing the border with the intent to engage in prostitution or other illegal activities violates US law.

Glad I'm just going down there to drink the Tequilla.

LLLL are you telling me prostitution is illegal in Mexico, where do I turn myself in! WTF I guess I will drink to that, Blue Agave Tequilla only. Is it illegal to cross the border, with the intent to party our asses off, and get drunk as lords and maybe sniff a little quiff.

I know Prostitution is Illegal in DC, VA and MD, I wonder if it is illegal in Balmer Hon?

just wondering;)

Big Red

Benchseats Rock
01-23-07, 00:47
LL are you telling me prostitution is illegal in Mexico, where do I turn myself in! WTF I guess I will drink to that, Blue Agave Tequilla only. Is it illegal to cross the border, with the intent to party our asses off, and get drunk as lords and maybe sniff a little quiff.

I know Prostitution is Illegal in DC, VA and MD, I wonder if it is illegal in Balmer Hon?

just wondering;)

Big Red


We have a new mayor who's only going to last a couple of months before everything goes back to normal... nothing is alegal in Baltimore.

Baltimonger
01-23-07, 19:31
LL: Okay Red, here we are approaching the border, let me do the talking.
BR: Sure thing LL.
Border guard: Did you enjoy your time in Mexico?
LL: Yes, but we're glad to be getting back to the good ol' U.S. of A.
Border guard: Are you in posession of any contraband items brought back from Mexico?
LL: No sir.
Border guard: Did you engage in any illegal activities while in Mexico?
LL: No sir.
Border guard: Any drug use?
LL: No sir.
Border guard: Any solicitation of prostitution?
LL: Yes, uh no!
Border guard: Could you two come with me please?
LL: Damn! I always get that question wrong.


We have a new mayor who's only going to last a couple of months before everything goes back to normal... nothing is illegal in Baltimore.
No, it's alegal. That's how they say it there. "Man, that's alegal".

Big Red50
01-23-07, 21:31
LL: Okay Red, here we are approaching the border, let me do the talking.
BR: Sure thing LL.
Border guard: Did you enjoy your time in Mexico?
LL: Yes, but we're glad to be getting back to the good ol' U.S. of A.
Border guard: Are you in posession of any contraband items brought back from Mexico?
LL: No sir.
Border guard: Did you engage in any illegal activities while in Mexico?
LL: No sir.
Border guard: Any drug use?
LL: No sir.
Border guard: Any solicitation of prostitution?
LL: Yes, uh no!
Border guard: Could you two come with me please?BR: No Señor, I could not come again if you paid me, my amigo LL and I were sexually abused, by several señoritas in Nogales and we hate when that happens.

LL: Damn! I always get that question wrong.


We have a new mayor who's only going to last a couple of months before everything goes back to normal. Nothing is illegal in Baltimore.No, it's alegal. That's how they say it there. "Man, that's alegal".I have a question, perhaps a senior member could enlighten me? When you play are you A COP in Maryland or Mexico (don't they share a border?) what happens if:

1) You aren't a cop and you say "yes", do you still have sex?

2) You really are a cop and you say "no", do you still have sex?

3) You really are a cop and you say "yes", do you still have sex?

4) I know what happens when you aren't a cop and you say "no".

This is multiple choice, take as long as you like to answer.

Hey Guys I fixed the spelling Big Red got his ass flamed off on 10/24/06 on this innocent question.

Picture of Señor Frogs, Cancun, Mexico.

Just wondering Señor

Big Red

Benchseats Rock
01-23-07, 21:40
LL: Okay Red, here we are approaching the border, let me do the talking.
BR: Sure thing LL.
Border guard: Did you enjoy your time in Mexico?
LL: Yes, but we're glad to be getting back to the good ol' U.S. of A.
Border guard: Are you in posession of any contraband items brought back from Mexico?
LL: No sir.
Border guard: Did you engage in any illegal activities while in Mexico?
LL: No sir.
Border guard: Any drug use?
LL: No sir.
Border guard: Any solicitation of prostitution?
LL: Yes, uh no!
Border guard: Could you two come with me please?
LL: Damn! I always get that question wrong.


No, it's alegal. That's how they say it there. "Man, that's alegal".

Thank you... how quickly we forget...

Jake Jj 1492
01-23-07, 22:32
LL: Okay Red, here we are approaching the border, let me do the talking.So is the road trip why they took the guns away from the TJ cops and gave them sling shots instead? If so, I think some more road trips are in order...could gradually disarm the world!

One more trip to TJ and they'd replace the sling shots with rubber band guns...

Just a thought.

JJ

Hopper
01-24-07, 08:01
2 things.

1st, Bysshe explains it correctly but I would also include you can be convicted twice, once on state law and again on federal law even if both laws are identical.

2nd, my trip to BT in Nuevo Laredo was quite enjoyable my first time and also subsequent visits. My first time there I had printed out some info and maps to get to BT. On my way back I was asked the usual questions and had my car inspected like everyone else. The border guard inquired about the folder with the maps and info on BT. (of course nothing was on there about where I got the info as I got the info from numerous websites and simply copied and pasted the info to Word and printed it out.) It was obvious his interest was not in national security but more of a personal interest as I had information on locations of other BT locations other than Nuevo Laredo. I was thankful however that I hadn't printed out any prices or information on any specific girls, but rather what bars didn't take advantage of foreigners and the like. We chatted for awhile even after the inspection. One of the other officers came over and joined in the coversation. You should have seen the look of surprise when the officer mentioned to the first officer that he preferred Papagayos and agreed the food at the taco stands was much better than in the restaurants.

The border guards do know that guys go to BT to engage in sexual activities with the women in BT and they also know that such activity is completely legal as in some parts of Nevada. Crossing the border to engage in LEGAL activity at the place where such activity is legal does not make crossing any borders to engage in such activity illegal. Otherwise guys would be arrested all the time when coming back from the Bunny Ranch in Nevada.

A word of advice. When going to Nuevo Laredo be very careful. Statistics show that there are more kidnappings in NL than in Iraq. It's best to go with a buddy and stay within BT as much as you can. It is safe to be in the downtown area of NL during the day but don't venture out into the neighborhoods. The policia have no problem pulling you over for no reason at all and rummaging through your vehicle and you never know if you're dealing with one of the bad cops of NL. Also, if you run into problems don't go to the local police, go to the Federal Police instead because the NL police are notorious for being crooked. Know what you're getting into when visiting a BT in MX and have a plan.

Always play it safe,

Hopper

A John
01-24-07, 17:02
An eyeful a day keeps the doctor away
By Jonathan Hayter

Staring at women's breast is good for man's health and makes them live longer, a new survey reveals.

Researchers have discovered that a 10 minute ogle at women's breast is as healthy as 1/2hour in a gym.

A five-year study of 200 men found that those who enjoyed a longing look at busty beauties had lower blood pressure, less heart disease and slower pulse rates compared to those who did not get their daily eyeful.

Dr Karen Weatherby who carried out the German study, wrote in the New England journal of medicine: "Just 10 minutes of staring at the charms of a well endowed female is roughly equivalent to 30 minute aerobic workout.

"Sexual excitement gets the heart pumping an improved blood circulation.

"There is no question that gazing at breast makes men healthier.

"Our study indicates that engaging in this activity a few minutes daily cuts the risk of a stroke and heart attack in half.

"We believe that by doing so consistently, the average man can extend his life four to five years"


I knew there was something about large breast

Happy Hunting
AJ

Jake Jj 1492
01-24-07, 20:03
Dr Karen Weatherby who carried out the German study, wrote in the New England journal of medicine: "Just 10 minutes of staring at the charms of a well endowed female is roughly equivalent to 30 minute aerobic workout.

"Sexual excitement gets the heart pumping an improved blood circulation.

"There is no question that gazing at breast makes men healthier.

"Our study indicates that engaging in this activity a few minutes daily cuts the risk of a stroke and heart attack in half.

"We believe that by doing so consistently, the average man can extend his life four to five years"So can this be used as an excuse if the girls at work think I'm harassing them by oggling their twins? Hmmm, worth consulting counsel!

Kluvr
01-24-07, 23:18
So, do you think the producer of this sitcom had a jones for the LA Amps? I think so. I'd pay $200-250 for a Kelly look a like. PM if you know any in the DC area...KL

Junky11
01-25-07, 00:20
An eyeful a day keeps the doctor away
By Jonathan Hayter

Staring at women's breast is good for man's health and makes them live longer, a new survey reveals.

Researchers have discovered that a 10 minute ogle at women's breast is as healthy as 1/2hour in a gym.

A five-year study of 200 men found that those who enjoyed a longing look at busty beauties had lower blood pressure, less heart disease and slower pulse rates compared to those who did not get their daily eyeful.

Dr Karen Weatherby who carried out the German study, wrote in the New England journal of medicine: "Just 10 minutes of staring at the charms of a well endowed female is roughly equivalent to 30 minute aerobic workout.

"Sexual excitement gets the heart pumping an improved blood circulation.

"There is no question that gazing at breast makes men healthier.

"Our study indicates that engaging in this activity a few minutes daily cuts the risk of a stroke and heart attack in half.

"We believe that by doing so consistently, the average man can extend his life four to five years"


I knew there was something about large breast

Happy Hunting
AJ


You call those big?

Pcpc1688
01-25-07, 00:49
For all you Dreamers out there. Heres something for ya!

PC

http://img42.imagevenue.com/img.php...t_123_310lo.jpg

A John
01-25-07, 08:39
I find these to be a beautiful example of large breast - "well endowed" for my preference.

Personally I don't get overly excited over big/huge breast. Everyone's got their own preference, god love them.

I was merely passing on an e-mail with a photograph. Maybe I posted in the wrong place, wasn't sure WTF shoot me.

Happy Hunting
AJ




You call those big?

Well endowed dictionary link
http://www.bartleby.com/61/62/W0086250.html

A John
01-25-07, 08:41
The Web link doesn't seem to be working?



For all you Dreamers out there. Heres something for ya!

PC

http://img42.imagevenue.com/img.php...t_123_310lo.jpg

Pcpc1688
01-25-07, 11:00
I dont know why. Lemme check on this and get back to you all.

PC out

Junky11
01-25-07, 18:28
A john everyone has a different taste when it comes to breast.

To me these are big.

Yes, those are big but not gigantic.

Baltimonger
01-25-07, 18:52
In France they say the perfect size breast is one that will fill a wine glass.

In America, the perfect size breast is one that'll clog a toilet.

Here's for all you big tit lovers:
www.normastitz.com

Benchseats Rock
01-25-07, 20:21
In France they say the perfect size breast is one that will fill a wine galss.

In America, the perfect size breast is one that'll clog a toilet.


And for the teetotalers in the crowd, or those of you who prefer their booze from a can, here is the photographic version of Baltimonger's words.



BSR

LoveLOS
01-26-07, 00:40
Squeeky,
Thank you very fucking much for sharing...

Now where was that chick with the A cups...

LL

LoveLOS
01-27-07, 04:35
We had a change of venue.

See you soon.
LL

BTW - this is hot... (http://www.yuvutu.com/modules.php?name=Video&op=view&video_id=3694) (be sure to turn your volume down)


Title: PARTY TIME -6min31
Description: Party sex can be the best!!!

Pcpc1688
01-27-07, 17:04
We had a change of venue.

See you soon.

LL

BTW - this is hot... (http://www.yuvutu.com/modules.php?name=Video&op=view&video_id=3694) (be sure to turn your volume down)LL, Are these 2 on the menu for RT?

PC

Benchseats Rock
01-27-07, 19:04
Oh man... I can't fucking wait!

While trying to do everything in my power not to beat off in anticipation of multiple pops with multiple guest stars, I suddenly came across the hidden message in Wild Horses from the greatest country band to ever nurse a drug addiction.

LL, don't be surprised if I start drinking tonight eh.... ;)




BSR

LoveLOS
01-27-07, 19:31
Oh man... I can't fucking wait!

While trying to do everything in my power not to beat off in anticipation of multiple pops with multiple guest stars, I suddenly came across the hidden message in Wild Horses from the greatest country band to ever nurse a drug addiction.

LL, don't be surprised if I start drinking tonight eh.... ;)

BSRYou havent started drinking yet? Oh well, ther is time to catch up with me and BB...

My first new years resolution about to be put to the test...
Can I fuck all the providers at the RT? I think so, we'll see.

And PCP. Si. Now you know why we host them and why we play close to the chest.

G'nite
A bottle of Agavera has my name on it...

LoveLOS

Big Red50
01-27-07, 20:48
We had a change of venue.

See you soon.
LL

BTW - this is hot... (http://www.yuvutu.com/modules.php?name=Video&op=view&video_id=3694) (be sure to turn your volume down)LL,

You have done a yeoman’s had, I shall drink to your debauchery, at the RT.

Big Red

LoveLOS
01-29-07, 04:10
LL,

You have done a yeoman’s had, I shall drink to your debauchery, at the RT.

Big Red

Here comes the next contestant....

LoveLOS

LoveLOS
01-29-07, 05:48
As I type this, Essence's phone is ringing. Sorry mutherfucker, she is in a threesome with BSR and Bratt in the other room... She'll call you back if there is anything left. Incredible woman.

Quotes of the evening:

"Where the fuck are my pants" -LL

"I came three times while making the video" -Bratt

"You ain't seen anything yet" -BSR, referring to Bratt's bright red ass.

"Shit, ask me tomorrow, I can't think now" - BB

"No, I'm not a cop; have a donut." - Robie

"Pig." -Essence - as LL was taking Honey to the other room for round four...

"You're exceptionally wide, you better cum quick." -Essence (of BSR)

So who showed up? Not Hondo, not Loopy, not Motormouth, not KJ, not Fool... So how could we have fun? trust me.

Who did show up? LL, BSR, BW, BB, Bratt, Wise, Red.
Who else showed up? Essence, Special, Sierra Foxxx, Chanelle, & Honey

LL was a pig. Before strarting RT, he had to take is girlfriend. BeBe, but that is another story, whick I will link to later.

BB got tunnelvision, again, and took Sierra to the other room. Only problem was the rat bastard fucked the shit out of her for an hour and a half. Then she went home. Wise took Essence. The rest of us went to the bar. LL met Special coming into the lobby and went back to the room with Essence and Special. BB had finished his trifecta with Sierra, so he joined us. The foursome was a wonderful thing.

LL figured he was done for the night and resumed drinking, then Honey walked into the room... Three minutes later, we were going to the other room, which prompted the Pig comment.

Life is good... Will post detail if I can remember it later... It is now becoming an RT tradition, an new hand of god pic.

LoveLOS

Pcpc1688
01-31-07, 01:55
LL,

I have to explain to the GF why I can't fuck her for 2 days if I attend. I'm still working on an alibi.

PC out

PS: Glad all had a great time!

Benchseats Rock
01-31-07, 05:17
I have to explain to the GF why I can't fuck her for 2 days if I attend. I'm still working on an alibi.



You're acting as if someone actually invited you.

Pcpc1688
01-31-07, 10:57
You're acting as if someone actually invited you.I didnt say anything about being invited did I?

Craps7
01-31-07, 15:06
You sure get around dude. I wish I have known you had that going on! HOT

Loop Vet
01-31-07, 17:20
Pcp, please excuse BSR. He gets a little cranky when his buddies are out banging mamacita after mamacita and drinking tequila in the desert while he's cooped up here in the cold. Wouldn't you? I'm know I'm pissed...

Pcpc1688
02-01-07, 05:16
Pcp, please excuse BSR. He gets a little cranky when his buddies are out banging mamacita after mamacita and drinking tequila in the desert while he's cooped up here in the cold. Wouldn't you? I'm know I'm pissed...Loop.

It seems the venerable Box just likes to keep on keeping on with things. Dunno why but your explanation seems the only logical reasoning. After all, we are grown men here I think.

LL, I guess my invite got lost in the mail. j/k! :)

PC

Benchseats Rock
02-02-07, 17:54
I know that our venerable BSR thrives on this kinda stuff. Im not feeding into it now or to the debate.
PC

Debate? There ain't no debate about it - you're never coming to a RT, you'll not be admitted to the inner circle. So keep on joking and poking fun if you want to, I know I always felt better when I partied alone and without friends.

Asshole.

Trick Williams
02-02-07, 18:22
Debate? There ain't no debate about it - you're never coming to a RT, you'll not be admitted to the inner circle. So keep on joking and poking fun if you want to, I know I always felt better when I partied alone and without friends.

Asshole.

LOL!!! DAM!!!

Big Red50
02-02-07, 23:21
Debate? There ain't no debate about it - you're never coming to a RT, you'll not be admitted to the inner circle. So keep on joking and poking fun if you want to, I know I always felt better when I partied alone and without friends.

Asshole.Whats that smell?

Naplam perhaps

Whats that sound?
Load
Lock
Fire in the hole

Looks like newbie frijoles

Flame on BSR

Footnote: thanks to Baltimonger for USMC M2-2 flamethrower photo and editing

Benchseats Rock
02-03-07, 06:27
I've just been shaken out of a good drunk sleep - the kind that follows 2 bottles of red wine and a bottle of Agavero by LoveLOS who gets a pass only because he is out on a rampage that involves 3 pops for him, 2 for BB (I think) who is in a compromised medical state and still going strong - 15 shots of the Blue Agave for each of them and a story of Mexican Cross Border bar hopping goodness that involves FS for $60 - yes gents, you heard me right, $60 FS and the discovery of the Mexicali version of Angelique (who is on my shitlist at the moment) and just as talented as our version with none of the attitude or mental issues.

As of now, by best estimate is 15 each for body count for our friends out there... I think this is a trip I am going to have to start saving up for so that I can attend next year.

I'm going back to bed now....

Pcpc1688
02-03-07, 12:26
For a middle aged man, you sure do act like a some kinda kid. Im sure when others read your slamming, they shake their heads like me and say why is this guy such a prick.

Pcpc1688
02-03-07, 14:26
Debate? There ain't no debate about it - you're never coming to a RT, you'll not be admitted to the inner circle. So keep on joking and poking fun if you want to, I know I always felt better when I partied alone and without friends.

Asshole.I seem to have gotten to you for sure this time. I really dont know how a grown man like yourself got so angry. Maybe Anger Mgmt. would be a good course for you to attend.

After all, your posts primary beats people up and tells them to RTFF. I know you probably think your some king of Legend or something but any person can see that your just a self rightous person. You have little if any idea who I am or why Im here besides getting info on pussy.

Last I looked, this site wasnt called www.BSR, Im the next thing to God.com
or www.BSRImtougherthanyou.com or www.BSRRTFFnewbie.com.

After 6 months on this site and reviewing your credentials, your greatest attributes have been slamming people and being SELF RIGHTOUS.

Now whose the Asshole?

PC

ps To all Seniors members(I may be one soon) no personal ill feelings to anyone of you all. YOu guys are very reasonable and fair.

Benchseats Rock
02-03-07, 15:35
After 6 months on this site and reviewing your credentials, your greatest attributes have been slamming people and being SELF RIGHTOUS.Funny, that's not the tune you were singing when you needed my help a few months ago, is it. Do you care to enlighten the board or shall I?

And for the record, 32 is not middle aged. My website is under construction at the moment, but in case you were looking for it it is www.benchseatsrock.com and the picture - you guessed it - is a Roundtable. It's the closest you're going to get to one, so enjoy.

Speaking of RT, my report will be coming in later this afternoon.

Big Red50
02-03-07, 16:28
Originally Posted by BSR

Debate? There ain't no debate about it - you're never coming to a RT, you'll not be admitted to the inner circle. So keep on joking and poking fun if you want to, I know I always felt better when I partied alone and without friends.

Asshole.
I seem to have gotten to you for sure this time. I really dont know how a grown man like yourself got so angry. Maybe Anger Mgmt. would be a good course for you to attend.

After all, your posts primary beats people up and tells them to RTFF. I know you probably think your some king of Legend or something but any person can see that your just a self rightous person. You have little if any idea who I am or why Im here besides getting info on pussy.

Last I looked, this site wasnt called www.BSR, Im the next thing to God.com
or www.BSRImtougherthanyou.com or www.BSRRTFFnewbie.com.

After 6 months on this site and reviewing your credentials, your greatest attributes have been slamming people and being SELF RIGHTOUS.

Now whose the Asshole?

PC

ps To all Seniors members(I may be one soon) no personal ill feelings to anyone of you all. YOu guys are very reasonable and fair.Hey Pcpc1688:

What are you smoking that shit PCP!

I complimented you on 1/12/07 for your discretion and wisdom, but now you and Ron Red Dog have had the same sharp stick up your asses for some reason. Loop tried to get you to relax, take a deep breath and count to ten.

Now for some friendly advice, BSR is the de-facto Mayor of Baltimore Mongers, he is a very cool guy and helps us newbie’s along if we deserve it. When I joined this board I RTFF and when I started posting, I posted some knuckleheaded reviews and got flamed, by like a dozen members BSR included. I deserved it, I got over it and I learned from it.

It appears BSR has gotten to you, he just mentioned you were not currently invited to the RT no more no less, and you kirk the fuck out. BSR is like a legend on this forum. His AVN award wining dvd, puts this forum in national spotlight good or bad. Ain’t no such thing as bad publicity in the film industry. He made a slightly sarcastic comment man, BSR was being nice; some members that experience BSR Flame On, never recover and are never heard from again.

I can tell you after being on this board for 5 months my success rate of scoring has increased 500% with this solid intel and the cost of tuition is a third of what I was used to. Simply by RTFF, networking and exchanging info. I have also made some good friends with like interest. When I make a loop run now I never strike out. This form is very important to other members and myself, as it saves us bucks and keeps our monger asses out of jail.

Pcpc 1688 you and Ron Red Dog can not fully appreciate or understand the benefits of this forum. Be cool, keep reading and posting and be glad BSR is here, he is a friend to all, and as in Pulp Fiction his wallet is inscribed with the words Bad Mother F**ker, just ask Cgeorgri.

Be cool, lighten up, and monger safe

Big Red

Pcpc1688
02-03-07, 16:36
Funny, that's not the tune you were singing when you needed my help a few months ago, is it. Do you care to enlighten the board or shall I?

And for the record, 32 is not middle aged. My website is under construction at the moment, but in case you were looking for it it is www.benchseatsrock.com
and the picture - you guessed it - is a picture of King Arthur's Roundtable.

Speaking of RT, my report will be coming in later this afternoon.You can do whatever you like. When I asked for some suggestions from you, you seemed like alikable guy. If want to relay what I said in confidence to you then your not a very trust worthy are you?

I see now why you are the way you are, your 32 yrs old. When you get into your mid 40s like me, you wont take yourself so seriously. I would like to let you know when I was 32, I had the same arrogant look of the world as you. Funny thing how that attitude will get you humbled one day. Lets hope that doesnt happen to a nice guy like you.

PC out

Freshly Snipes
02-03-07, 23:53
Was cruising around Greater SouthEast hospital last night when i spotted this chick walking up Southern Avenue, she gave me a look. I popped a U turn as asked her if she needed a ride. She hopped in and gave me some cock and bull story about looking for a friend, blah, blah,blah. Said her name was Aviv (looked black mixed with spanish) and that she lived over in Virginia and that she was looking for her friend, who was sopposed to be arranging a ride for her...yeah, yeah, yeah.

I asked her if she wanted to make some money..where she hastely agreed. It was cold as hell last night, and i didn't have a whole lot of cash for a hotel, so we pulled into a nice dark section of Southview Apts parking lot by the pool. I told her i wanted to see her naked. She stripped to reveal a really nice toned body. 5'5, looked like A cups with nice thick legs and an o.k butt-no belly fat. I unzipped my pants, without mentioning a word and she knew the deal. Performed a phenomonal bbbjcim. On a scale of 1 to 10 she was definately a 9 - not 10, only cause she didn't swallow. Took my dick and balls in the mouth at one time. Spat when finished. I gave her sixty for her top notch performance, and dropped her off at Anacostia train station.

Don't know if she's a regular SW, as i don't usually cruise around there but if you see her, she's definately a repeat provider.

Pcpc1688
02-04-07, 01:33
Hey Pcpc1688:

What are you smoking that shit PCP!

I complimented you on 1/12/07 for your discretion and wisdom, but now you and Ron Red Dog have had the same sharp stick up your asses for some reason. Loop tried to get you to relax, take a deep breath and count to ten.

Now for some friendly advice, BSR is the de-facto Mayor of Baltimore Mongers, he is a very cool guy and helps us newbie’s along if we deserve it. When I joined this board I RTFF and when I started posting, I posted some knuckleheaded reviews and got flamed, by like a dozen members BSR included. I deserved it, I got over it and I learned from it.

It appears BSR has gotten to you, he just mentioned you were not currently invited to the RT no more no less, and you kirk the fuck out. BSR is like a legend on this forum. His AVN award wining dvd, puts this forum in national spotlight good or bad. Ain’t no such thing as bad publicity in the film industry. He made a slightly sarcastic comment man, BSR was being nice; some members that experience BSR Flame On, never recover and are never heard from again.

I can tell you after being on this board for 5 months my success rate of scoring has increased 500% with this solid intel and the cost of tuition is a third of what I was used to. Simply by RTFF, networking and exchanging info. I have also made some good friends with like interest. When I make a loop run now I never strike out. This form is very important to other members and myself, as it saves us bucks and keeps our monger asses out of jail.

Pcpc 1688 you and Ron Red Dog can not fully appreciate or understand the benefits of this forum. Be cool, keep reading and posting and be glad BSR is here, he is a friend to all, and as in Pulp Fiction his wallet is inscribed with the words Bad Mother F**ker, just ask Cgeorgri.

Be cool, lighten up, and monger safe

Big RedRed,

Your opinion is appreciated. I dont smoke PCP or anything else for that matter. I also know the value of this forum. I have contributed as much as I can in the same 5 months that I have been here. I travel extensively and monger everywhere I go. That makes me well seasoned. I presume you are in your 50s or so.

I just dont like being dissed for petty stuff. Im sure that things will work it selk out in time. Im 45 yrs old and have a successful business, many friends, and established business relationships all over the US and overseas. I didnt expect to treated like some sort of 21 yr old outta college especially by a more youthful person.

I hope you can appreciate where I come from.

Peace

Loop Vet
02-04-07, 19:52
I think we should all take a chill pill. C'mon, Pcp is a solid poster and was just being friendly when he responded to LL about an alibi for the rt. No need for this to go any further. Just my humble opinion.

Pcpc1688
02-04-07, 23:06
I think we should all take a chill pill. C'mon, Pcp is a solid poster and was just being friendly when he responded to LL about an alibi for the rt. No need for this to go any further. Just my humble opinion.Loop,

Thanks for your remarks. They are truly appreciated by me.

PC