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Diamond Spa in La Mesa, Asian Star Spa in Hillcrest, Rose Massage on Clairemont, Wina Spa formerly Angela Spa on Mission Gorge and I've heard Zs is open but have to call.Know that many spas are open, but not turning on their open sign to avoid obvious "open" status to LEO. A call is the best way to confirm if open and how many and who's available.
Don't be surprised if tip is requested upfront from girls and spas that normally don't. A number of spas and girls are reporting numerous ass-fucks not tipping anything, including the house fees thinking they're protected by the closure mandates. I've been told these scammers pictures, phone numbers and car descriptions / license plates are being distributed amongst the spa networks.
RChangDatyKing
12-23-20, 12:23
Know that many spas are open, but not turning on their open sign to avoid obvious "open" status to LEO. A call is the best way to confirm if open and how many and who's available.
Don't be surprised if tip is requested upfront from girls and spas that normally don't. A number of spas and girls are reporting numerous ass-fucks not tipping anything, including the house fees thinking they're protected by the closure mandates. I've been told these scammers pictures, phone numbers and car descriptions / license plates are being distributed amongst the spa networks.
I hope the spas post pictures of these dumb asses in their shops and on social media so they all can deny / refuse them service. What a bunch of cheap asses. If you can’t afford this hobby, go in your shell and jack off.
BigBen1985
01-01-21, 19:38
I hope the spas post pictures of these dumb asses in their shops and on social media so they all can deny / refuse them service. What a bunch of cheap asses. If you cant afford this hobby, go in your shell and jack off.Kinda goes both ways though, 898X Claremont mesa suite D. 40 hhr. Asked for BJ. Got 2 minutes of a head until another monger came in, she then left the room and took care of him. When she came back she obviously wanted me out so she finished with a HE. I tipped 60 and she freaked because she gave head for literally 2 minutes. Told her I normally pay 40 for a HE that she was lucky I gave her that. My first time there was a blast, the next 2 were terrible.
Kinda goes both ways though, 898X Claremont mesa suite D. 40 hhr. Asked for BJ. Got 2 minutes of a head until another monger came in, she then left the room and took care of him. When she came back she obviously wanted me out so she finished with a HE. I tipped 60 and she freaked because she gave head for literally 2 minutes. Told her I normally pay 40 for a HE that she was lucky I gave her that. My first time there was a blast, the next 2 were terrible.Let me be clear. I'm told these fuck wads fucked this girls and then they fucked these girls and the spa, as in didn't pay a dime. Rumor is, Chinese Karma is 8 x as bad as regular karma.
On a more pleasant note, MRC has 2-sweethearts, Amber and Lisa. If you want to know which to choose, flip a coin. Heads, Amber, tails Lisa, then again they both give great head and tail. In other words you can't lose. Yeah baby! Happy New Year!
Hello friends,
I took one for the team and I would not recomend snow from Healthy massage. The massage part was forgetable and she would not give me a happy ending. She would only use her forearm to touch my junk so I kindly ask her to finish me but she replied with you do yourself. I lost all interest after that. After 5 minutes of her gliding her forearms to my junk I told her I was done. Gave her a good tip so she would not get pissed off at me. During the massage when I was face down I thought that it was her boob that I grab but it happened to be her flab LOL. Stay safe and Happy new year.Why on earth would you tip for this kind of service?! WHO CARES if she got pissed off. I would be the one pissed off! Tipping is for when service is BEYOND expectations, good grief.
RChangDatyKing
01-02-21, 00:51
Kinda goes both ways though, 898X Claremont mesa suite D. 40 hhr. Asked for BJ. Got 2 minutes of a head until another monger came in, she then left the room and took care of him. When she came back she obviously wanted me out so she finished with a HE. I tipped 60 and she freaked because she gave head for literally 2 minutes. Told her I normally pay 40 for a HE that she was lucky I gave her that. My first time there was a blast, the next 2 were terrible.Of course we all want excellent service, and if we get subpar service then we should tip accordingly.
You are not seriously saying the two are the same? That someone goes to a massage parlor, and get the extra service and tell the girl (s) sorry I'm not paying you because you shouldn't be opened is the same as a service provider giving poor service? The guy going there to intentionally deceived and not pay is wrong. Who does that!
We all know (well if we do our research and read some of the posted reviews) that some providers will try to rush mongers and do the least they can in the 30 minutes and expect a tip afterwards. If we only go to well reviewed AMPs (like MRC, Lusk, Pine, KK, Maple, etc.) then we would not have these poor experiences.
If a BJ was what you wanted, and she stops then get up and leave and don't tip her. I think that's different than someone going in with the intention of not paying at all, even after receiving good service.
Of course we all want excellent service, and if we get subpar service then we should tip accordingly.
You are not seriously saying the two are the same? That someone goes to a massage parlor, and get the extra service and tell the girl (s) sorry I'm not paying you because you shouldn't be opened is the same as a service provider giving poor service? The guy going there to intentionally deceived and not pay is wrong. Who does that!
We all know (well if we do our research and read some of the posted reviews) that some providers will try to rush mongers and do the least they can in the 30 minutes and expect a tip afterwards. If we only go to well reviewed AMPs (like MRC, Lusk, Pine, KK, Maple, etc.) then we would not have these poor experiences.
If a BJ was what you wanted, and she stops then get up and leave and don't tip her. I think that's different than someone going in with the intention of not paying at all, even after receiving good service.BTW This was reported to me by a girl that is well reviewed, has a great reputation amongst many mongers on several forums. In short, she was ripped off along with the spa by no less than 3 mongers with the same MO.
This is the place to flame guys and post stupid shit like "I hope MP's start posting license plates of guys on social media for X reason."
Yes, people should pay their hookers and no a hooker shouldn't ever see a guy who doesn't pay them but there are way more hookers under delivering for what they charge then there are guys not paying them and nobody should ever advocate for having somebodies real identity put on social media on this forum.
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Saw one new positive TER review and decided to try. Cris answers and sends me to Linda in LJ. She demands eBay card for 2 xx since she is worried about LE if dealing in cash. Ok, I go along. Go to the address (apartment complex) and texted arrival. Bombards me with urgent messages to send a photo of the card with last 4 pin scratched off, and do so right away. I go along (yes, I know Einstein) and she never shows. Instead tells me the card is fake. Long story short, she-they took the balance as soon as you show them the 4 pin and the back of the card. About 100 texts later from Linda and Cris (former texting occasional profanities and the latter feigning surprise), they propose a make up with me trying another gift card for lesser amount. Fool me once, shame on you. Low life operations. You have been warned.I'm going to take this lightly, you have three reviews. All about this scam that went down. Can this happen. ? For sure. I wouldn't be surprised, desperate time call for desperate measures. But I'll wait until you've contributed more before taking this for fact. Please chime in if this has happened with this group.
Welcome to the board by the way and giving your experience, but I'm going to grab some popcorn and come back later to read the exciting responses.
RChangDatyKing
01-19-21, 21:48
I'm going to take this lightly, you have three reviews. All about this scam that went down. Can this happen. ? For sure. I wouldn't be surprised, desperate time call for desperate measures. But I'll wait until you've contributed more before taking this for fact. Please chime in if this has happened with this group.
Welcome to the board by the way and giving your experience, but I'm going to grab some popcorn and come back later to read the exciting responses.
Aloha- I'm with you on this one. There are and has been reliable intel about this group using fake pictures (the pictures for Maria showing her boobs/nipples is an excellent example- these Chinese girls aren’t going to show their real pictures and body like that for fear family may see them), inconsistent pricing / up-sell for upgrades, bait and switch, inconsistent service / performance. But gift card scams, unlikely. But again desperate times make people do desperate things. I'm grabbing my bag of butter popcorn as well. LOL.
The DudeInSd
01-19-21, 21:55
Saw one new positive TER review and decided to try. Cris answers and sends me to Linda in LJ. She demands eBay card for 2 xx since she is worried about LE if dealing in cash. Ok, I go along. Go to the address (apartment complex) and texted arrival. Bombards me with urgent messages to send a photo of the card with last 4 pin scratched off, and do so right away. I go along (yes, I know Einstein) and she never shows. Instead tells me the card is fake. Long story short, she-they took the balance as soon as you show them the 4 pin and the back of the card. About 100 texts later from Linda and Cris (former texting occasional profanities and the latter feigning surprise), they propose a make up with me trying another gift card for lesser amount. Fool me once, shame on you. Low life operations. You have been warned.Obviously you are somebody who has an issue with Cris and her great group of girls. They do not accept gift cards and they have never.
Sir Bishop
01-19-21, 21:56
Aloha- I'm with you on this one. There are and has been reliable intel about this group using fake pictures, inconsistent pricing / up-sell for upgrades, bait and switch, inconsistent service / performance. But gift card scams, unlikely. But again desperate times make people do desperate things. I'm grabbing my bag of popcorn as well. LOL.
I'm going to take this lightly, you have three reviews. All about this scam that went down. Can this happen. ? For sure. I wouldn't be surprised, desperate time call for desperate measures. But I'll wait until you've contributed more before taking this for fact. Please chime in if this has happened with this group.
Welcome to the board by the way and giving your experience, but I'm going to grab some popcorn and come back later to read the exciting responses.I'd like extra butter on mine.
I'd like extra butter on mine.Make mine large. I love a good whodunit.
Crazy how Cris attracts newbie posters both good and bad.
Make mine large. I love a good whodunit.
Crazy how Cris attracts newbie posters both good and bad.
I'd like extra butter on mine.
Obviously you are somebody who has an issue with Cris and her great group of girls. They do not accept gift cards and they have never.
Aloha- I'm with you on this one. There are and has been reliable intel about this group using fake pictures (the pictures for Maria showing her boobs/nipples is an excellent example- these Chinese girls arent going to show their real pictures and body like that for fear family may see them), inconsistent pricing / up-sell for upgrades, bait and switch, inconsistent service / performance. But gift card scams, unlikely. But again desperate times make people do desperate things. I'm grabbing my bag of butter popcorn as well. LOL.
I'm going to take this lightly, you have three reviews. All about this scam that went down. Can this happen. ? For sure. I wouldn't be surprised, desperate time call for desperate measures. But I'll wait until you've contributed more before taking this for fact. Please chime in if this has happened with this group.
Welcome to the board by the way and giving your experience, but I'm going to grab some popcorn and come back later to read the exciting responses.If you don't like what somebody posts then add them to your ignore list. If you think their posts violate our TOS then report it. If you have fucking tourettes and can't help yourself from having to engage in this stupidity then take it to the stupid shit thread.
Anybody who keeps doing this shit on review threads will find themselves back on moderation.
This is the second time I've had to do this, if I have to stop the car again there will be some crying kids in the backseat.
Don't say you weren't warned, keep it off the review threads.
Specifically to The DudeInSd you're starting to sound really undudeish and a lot more pimpish. You don't need to correct everybodies fucking reviews.
To GdAloha if you think there is a shill account report it. All you succeeded in doing here is starting a fight. I'll review the account and if it's a shill I'll take care of it.
Unless you want your posts held up until a grownup can review them I would heed this warning. You're welcomed to light them up on this thread but keep it off the review threads.
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RChangDatyKing
02-04-21, 13:25
She was Lisa!
https://sandiego.rubratings.com/205042
Now she's Jasmine? At least shes not claiming to be a former model anymore. Well, this Jasmine that is.
https://sandiego.rubratings.com/212890
If you are going to use the same pictures for your ads, at least use the same name. No wonder why these girls continue to get negative reviews. The fake pictures, poor service, bait and switch only works so much.
Sir Bishop
02-04-21, 17:26
Thanks for the heads up and super sleuthing! A change of this nature is always a red light to me since most ladies make this type of change when multiple negative reviews surface on them.
She was Lisa!
https://sandiego.rubratings.com/205042
Now she's Jasmine? At least shes not claiming to be a former model anymore. Well, this Jasmine that is.
https://sandiego.rubratings.com/212890
If you are going to use the same pictures for your ads, at least use the same name. No wonder why these girls continue to get negative reviews. The fake pictures, poor service, bait and switch only works so much.
She was Lisa!
https://sandiego.rubratings.com/205042
Now she's Jasmine? At least shes not claiming to be a former model anymore. Well, this Jasmine that is.
https://sandiego.rubratings.com/212890
If you are going to use the same pictures for your ads, at least use the same name. No wonder why these girls continue to get negative reviews. The fake pictures, poor service, bait and switch only works so much.Maybe it's her identical twin sister. LOL. Notice her rates are apparently in line with storefront AMPs now? 50 hhr and 60 hr.
RChangDatyKing
02-04-21, 23:34
Maybe it's her identical twin sister. LOL. Notice her rates are apparently in line with storefront AMPs now? 50 hhr and 60 hr.Damn, since Lisa had such great reviews I'm rushing to my phone now to book with Jasmine. NOT!!
Yeah, her pricing is in line with storefront AMPs because she will upsell for every little service, and will probably charge you for the massage oil. There's a review on RR that said lots of upsell. LOL.
RChangDatyKing
02-06-21, 10:18
Maybe it's her identical twin sister. LOL. Notice her rates are apparently in line with storefront AMPs now? 50 hhr and 60 hr.
Now, they completely changed her pictures for the ad, but kept the same name, Jasmine. I guess it not a twin after all. She did keep the storefront pricing to get people to call. The new pictures are hot so people will definitely bite. For $60/hr- If I didnt know any better I might have taken one TOFTT.
They definitely read this board to make them change the pictures.
https://sandiego.rubratings.com/212890
Sir Bishop
02-06-21, 22:35
Instead of seeing some girls at FEC or SDAG, I went to Vegas and bet on Tampa to win money line. Payout is 2400. If I win SDAG and FEC girls are going to be bowlegged. Ha ha.
Looks like you get doubles now.
:-D.
Instead of seeing some girls at FEC or SDAG, I went to Vegas and bet on Tampa to win money line. Payout is 2400. If I win SDAG and FEC girls are going to be bowlegged. Ha ha.
JonnySpain
02-08-21, 23:48
Looks like you get doubles now.
:-D.Haha indeed! Congrats SB!
RChangDatyKing
03-19-21, 21:30
I was at one of my favorite AMPs this week and while trying to relaxed with a nice massage I started hearing some commotions from the next room. I asked my masseuse what was going on and she went to go check. Apparently this dumb ass was asking for the HF and tip back from the masseuse after getting his massage and HJ.
Dumb Ass, if you can't afford this hobby stay the fuck home and jack off to your dog! The masseuse gave you your massage, and HE. Pay for the service you received. If it wasn't to your expectations then don't go back. It's assholes like you that make some of these girls not want to provide extra services.
HiroSlammer7
03-19-21, 23:23
I was at one of my favorite AMPs this week and while trying to relaxed with a nice massage I started hearing some commotions from the next room. I asked my masseuse what was going on and she went to go check. Apparently this dumb ass was asking for the HF and tip back from the masseuse after getting his massage and HJ.
Dumb Ass, if you can't afford this hobby stay the fuck home and jack off to your dog! The masseuse gave you your massage, and HE. Pay for the service you received. If it wasn't to your expectations then don't go back. It's assholes like you that make some of these girls not want to provide extra services.Which place was this?
RChangDatyKing
03-20-21, 00:49
Which place was this?Why does it matter what Spa this was? The scumbag got his massage (I was next door for at least 30 minutes and didn't hear any complaints until the time was over) so he should at least pay for the HF. If a tip was agreed upon for the HE then the masseuse should receive her compensation.
HiroSlammer7
03-20-21, 01:13
Why does it matter what Spa this was? The scumbag got his massage (I was next door for at least 30 minutes and didn't hear any complaints until the time was over) so he should at least pay for the HF. If a tip was agreed upon for the HE then the masseuse should receive her compensation.I was just curious which place was one of your favorite AMPs... I was just wanting to try some new places.
I was at one of my favorite AMPs this week and while trying to relaxed with a nice massage I started hearing some commotions from the next room. I asked my masseuse what was going on and she went to go check. Apparently this dumb ass was asking for the HF and tip back from the masseuse after getting his massage and HJ.
Dumb Ass, if you can't afford this hobby stay the fuck home and jack off to your dog! The masseuse gave you your massage, and HE. Pay for the service you received. If it wasn't to your expectations then don't go back. It's assholes like you that make some of these girls not want to provide extra services.To the dog? Good lord man, at least let the idiot jerk off to some porn or something! LOL No need to scar the dog! Haha.
RChangDatyKing
04-20-21, 21:34
If you have zero / no post history and are sending me PMs and asking for contacts information on who I see monthly- good luck with that because you will be waiting a long time. I think most of us on this board are willing to help out new mongers, but come on guys do some research and read the posts / reviews because all the information are here. Asking me for contacts information on my ATF's ain't going to happen to a non contributors.
And for senior members that make "demands / requests" for information because you think your shit don't stink and because you think you're entitled to the information because of your senior status. Good luck getting the information because you're not going to get many replies making demands.
Wow! You posted this rant on 4/20 and no one has posted here since your rant? You really are the King. Wish I had a good joke to tell to break the ice. How am I supposed to know if I think my shit doesn't stink? Now I'm wondering if you responded to my last PM? LOL!
If you have zero / no post history and are sending me PMs and asking for contacts information on who I see monthly- good luck with that because you will be waiting a long time. I think most of us on this board are willing to help out new mongers, but come on guys do some research and read the posts / reviews because all the information are here. Asking me for contacts information on my ATF's ain't going to happen to a non contributors.
And for senior members that make "demands / requests" for information because you think your shit don't stink and because you think you're entitled to the information because of your senior status. Good luck getting the information because you're not going to get many replies making demands.
RChangDatyKing
05-04-21, 11:33
Wow! You posted this rant on 4/20 and no one has posted here since your rant? You really are the King. Wish I had a good joke to tell to break the ice. How am I supposed to know if I think my shit doesn't stink? Now I'm wondering if you responded to my last PM? LOL!You don't need any of my contact lists. You probably already know 50% of what's on them. The ones you know are the most important of my list anyways.
Quite the opposite. I hear you have been King of our common ATF's castle. LOL. I haven't been able to see her as often, you must be keeping her busy. LOL. When I saw her hard body friend back in town I was thinking about our discussion about the 3 some we both had fantasied about with our common ATF and her friend. Did you do the 3 some appts? You have to let me know how it went. If they were / are into each other like we fantasied then I might have to set that appointment. LOL.
No I didn't do the threesome with those two as my wallet would probably bottom out.
Just realized your post was on 4-20 day so maybe everyone on the board that day was too stoned to care. LOL!
I'm just sayin.
You don't need any of my contact lists. You probably already know 50% of what's on them. The ones you know are the most important of my list anyways.
Quite the opposite. I hear you have been King of our common ATF's castle. LOL. I haven't been able to see her as often, you must be keeping her busy. LOL. When I saw her hard body friend back in town I was thinking about our discussion about the 3 some we both had fantasied about with our common ATF and her friend. Did you do the 3 some appts? You have to let me know how it went. If they were / are into each other like we fantasied then I might have to set that appointment. LOL.
Amp Wang Lei
05-07-21, 10:26
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RChangDatyKing
05-10-21, 10:07
WTF- I wrote the below review / post on an HX provider I saw and within hours of it posted she writes to be on HX, 4-5/10 huh, man I wish mutual rating is an option.
Man, I know there are white knights on this board, or guys telling / sharing with the providers the exact wording of reviews- WTF, why share the reviewer handle! The reviews are for us mongers so we have information before making the appointment. Sorry, but I write unbiased reviews- not just the fluff. She probably would have been happy with the post if I left off the rating I gave her for her looks. There are plenty of guys that would go see her for her performance, BBBJ skills, willingness to please.
This must be the reasons why we dont see many real or unbiased reviews because freakin WKs calling the girls and telling them these shit. Not even a few hours the girls already knew of my review and shes not even a SD provider. WTF! To the dick heads that told her about my review, I hope she gave you that $20 discount for running to her with the review/information.
Those that have read my posts knows I pick looks over performance any day. She didn't meet my expectations in that area. If it was just performance I was looking for then I would repeat.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=5343282&viewfull=1#post5343282.
+1 to this. Keep 'them coming unbiased, and do your best to let the anger from chicks roll off your back.
To those that run to share reviews with the providers. You're not a man. You're a simp, and I just feel sorry for you.
WTF- I wrote the below review / post on an HX provider I saw and within hours of it posted she writes to be on HX, 4-5/10 huh, man I wish mutual rating is an option.
Man, I know there are white knights on this board, or guys telling / sharing with the providers the exact wording of reviews- WTF, why share the reviewer handle! The reviews are for us mongers so we have information before making the appointment. Sorry, but I write unbiased reviews- not just the fluff. She probably would have been happy with the post if I left off the rating I gave her for her looks. There are plenty of guys that would go see her for her performance, BBBJ skills, willingness to please.
This must be the reasons why we dont see many real or unbiased reviews because freakin WKs calling the girls and telling them these shit. Not even a few hours the girls already knew of my review and shes not even a SD provider. WTF! To the dick heads that told her about my review, I hope she gave you that $20 discount for running to her with the review/information.
Those that have read my posts knows I pick looks over performance any day. She didn't meet my expectations in that area. If it was just performance I was looking for then I would repeat.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=5343282&viewfull=1#post5343282.
The DudeInSd
05-10-21, 13:33
WTF- I wrote the below review / post on an HX provider I saw and within hours of it posted she writes to be on HX, 4-5/10 huh, man I wish mutual rating is an option.
Man, I know there are white knights on this board, or guys telling / sharing with the providers the exact wording of reviews- WTF, why share the reviewer handle! The reviews are for us mongers so we have information before making the appointment. Sorry, but I write unbiased reviews- not just the fluff. She probably would have been happy with the post if I left off the rating I gave her for her looks. There are plenty of guys that would go see her for her performance, BBBJ skills, willingness to please.
This must be the reasons why we dont see many real or unbiased reviews because freakin WKs calling the girls and telling them these shit. Not even a few hours the girls already knew of my review and shes not even a SD provider. WTF! To the dick heads that told her about my review, I hope she gave you that $20 discount for running to her with the review/information.
Those that have read my posts knows I pick looks over performance any day. She didn't meet my expectations in that area. If it was just performance I was looking for then I would repeat..That does suck. Assuming your handle on Hx is 100% completely different than what your handle is here? I do know many girls that read the posts on this website especially because it is free. I have had girls ask me about reviews on TER because they can not see them due to not having a paid membership. But yeah, agree with you. It's BS.
Trusty Hairlip
05-10-21, 13:50
WTF- I wrote the below review / post on an HX provider I saw and within hours of it posted she writes to be on HX, 4-5/10 huh, man I wish mutual rating is an option.
Man, I know there are white knights on this board, or guys telling / sharing with the providers the exact wording of reviews- WTF, why share the reviewer handle! The reviews are for us mongers so we have information before making the appointment. Sorry, but I write unbiased reviews- not just the fluff. She probably would have been happy with the post if I left off the rating I gave her for her looks. There are plenty of guys that would go see her for her performance, BBBJ skills, willingness to please.
This must be the reasons why we dont see many real or unbiased reviews because freakin WKs calling the girls and telling them these shit. Not even a few hours the girls already knew of my review and shes not even a SD provider. WTF! To the dick heads that told her about my review, I hope she gave you that $20 discount for running to her with the review/information.
Those that have read my posts knows I pick looks over performance any day. She didn't meet my expectations in that area. If it was just performance I was looking for then I would repeat..You posted a review on a public site and think that someone shared this with the provider? Who has time for that?
RolfTorren
05-10-21, 15:00
Yeah, its clear that providers or their "managers" monitor this site as well as others. And its all too obvious that these same individuals are not above either calling out candid and unbiased clients or generating positive counter-reviews. Lets face it, if you have half a brain and a little time on your hands, and this is your main form of income, then its not hard to do. I was almost banned from a local agency for writing an honest review somewhere else. Lesson learned: either make sure the handle you write under is untraceable or keep to private messages with trusted hobbyists to find the real story.
Gone are the days when there was a real sense of community and camaraderie among providers and clients. Pre-Covid / Fosta / Sesta I thought there was actually a lot of fun banter, well meaning rivalry and general human interest in the hobbying / providing community. Of course there were plenty of trolls, jerks, and robs too, but it was way easier to either call them out, ignore them, or defund them.
On another note, has there ever been a documented case of white knights or simps actually getting better treatment from providers (or their managers)? I'm guessing that sometime during a sessions, an invisible indelible mark is stamped on their butts saying "sucker".
WTF- I wrote the below review / post on an HX provider I saw and within hours of it posted she writes to be on HX, 4-5/10 huh, man I wish mutual rating is an option.
Man, I know there are white knights on this board, or guys telling / sharing with the providers the exact wording of reviews- WTF, why share the reviewer handle! The reviews are for us mongers so we have information before making the appointment. Sorry, but I write unbiased reviews- not just the fluff. She probably would have been happy with the post if I left off the rating I gave her for her looks. There are plenty of guys that would go see her for her performance, BBBJ skills, willingness to please.
This must be the reasons why we dont see many real or unbiased reviews because freakin WKs calling the girls and telling them these shit. Not even a few hours the girls already knew of my review and shes not even a SD provider. WTF! To the dick heads that told her about my review, I hope she gave you that $20 discount for running to her with the review/information.
Those that have read my posts knows I pick looks over performance any day. She didn't meet my expectations in that area. If it was just performance I was looking for then I would repeat.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=5343282&viewfull=1#post5343282.
RChangDatyKing
05-10-21, 18:05
You posted a review on a public site and think that someone shared this with the provider? Who has time for that?You're right. She may have stumbled across my review at 1:00 am in the morning as it is on a public site. As stated by another monger that this and other review sites are most likely being read by providers, their mangers, etc.
You don't have to understand it! It's my rant in the Stupid Shit in San Diego section.
RChangDatyKing
05-10-21, 18:32
Yeah, its clear that providers or their "managers" monitor this site as well as others. And its all too obvious that these same individuals are not above either calling out candid and unbiased clients or generating positive counter-reviews. Lets face it, if you have half a brain and a little time on your hands, and this is your main form of income, then its not hard to do. I was almost banned from a local agency for writing an honest review somewhere else. Lesson learned: either make sure the handle you write under is untraceable or keep to private messages with trusted hobbyists to find the real story.
Gone are the days when there was a real sense of community and camaraderie among providers and clients. Pre-Covid / Fosta / Sesta I thought there was actually a lot of fun banter, well meaning rivalry and general human interest in the hobbying / providing community. Of course there were plenty of trolls, jerks, and robs too, but it was way easier to either call them out, ignore them, or defund them.
On another note, has there ever been a documented case of white knights or simps actually getting better treatment from providers (or their managers)? I'm guessing that sometime during a sessions, an invisible indelible mark is stamped on their butts saying "sucker".I agree with you those days of community and camaraderie are gone, even amongst mongers. Yeah I have about a dozen or so guys on here that I share and exchange more detailed reviews on. I don't post that much on AMPs anymore because guys have shared my reviews with masseuses. I know because they've taken pictures of them from customer's phones and asked if I wrote the reviews.
RChangDatyKing
05-10-21, 18:42
That does suck. Assuming your handle on Hx is 100% completely different than what your handle is here? I do know many girls that read the posts on this website especially because it is free. I have had girls ask me about reviews on TER because they can not see them due to not having a paid membership. But yeah, agree with you. It's BS.The good thing is she / her booker or manager stopped writing me on HX. I received 2 PMs on HX this morning. I finally told her she's not above a 5 IMO when compared to the hundreds of girls I've been with in my 15 years of hobbying. The review itself was not bad. Her "look" was not ideal for me and I wanted guys with my similar tastes to be fully aware. Yeah it's BS!
RChangDatyKing
05-10-21, 19:36
+1 to this. Keep 'them coming unbiased, and do your best to let the anger from chicks roll off your back.
To those that run to share reviews with the providers. You're not a man. You're a simp, and I just feel sorry for you.I hear you! Yeah, I don't let these girls affect me and / or my hobby fun one bit. I will continue to post my unbiased reviews.
I hear you! Yeah, I don't let these girls affect me and / or my hobby fun one bit. I will continue to post my unbiased reviews.They want better reviews? Perform better! Don't use touched up or 5 year old photos. Got to the gym for a minute. It's not rocket science.
GL.
DragonWolf
05-11-21, 14:44
The good thing is she / her booker or manager stopped writing me on HX. I received 2 PMs on HX this morning. I finally told her she's not above a 5 IMO when compared to the hundreds of girls I've been with in my 15 years of hobbying. The review itself was not bad. Her "look" was not ideal for me and I wanted guys with my similar tastes to be fully aware. Yeah it's BS!1st. I agree with you on your posts, so this is just a side comment since these posts got me thinking.
I think there's 2 things at play.
1 - The management definitely is tracking review site and board activity. I know SDAG in particular is very attentive to such things. I got a talking to, years ago, over a less than stellar review I left (wasn't even a bad one, just lower than they'd have liked, and they felt it may have impacted their business which slowed for a couple days after my review. I think it may have been a coincidence, but we talked things out and got squared away. Fast forward a few years and last year they (SDAG) reached out to me on HX last year, asking me to post a reminder in here to not share their password. They got word of people asking for the password and got nervous about it. It's probably why they're changing it fairly frequently.
2 - The mongers who are sharin reviews w / providers are probably either love-struck or trying to get better service / extras by seeming like a nicer guy than the next. Just like when strip club customers tell the dancers things others say, just to earn points. LOL.
Not expecting that any of this was eye-opening, just me talking out loud. =).
RChangDatyKing
05-11-21, 18:29
1st. I agree with you on your posts, so this is just a side comment since these posts got me thinking.
I think there's 2 things at play.
1 - The management definitely is tracking review site and board activity. I know SDAG in particular is very attentive to such things. I got a talking to, years ago, over a less than stellar review I left (wasn't even a bad one, just lower than they'd have liked, and they felt it may have impacted their business which slowed for a couple days after my review. I think it may have been a coincidence, but we talked things out and got squared away. Fast forward a few years and last year they (SDAG) reached out to me on HX last year, asking me to post a reminder in here to not share their password. They got word of people asking for the password and got nervous about it. It's probably why they're changing it fairly frequently.
2 - The mongers who are sharin reviews w / providers are probably either love-struck or trying to get better service / extras by seeming like a nicer guy than the next. Just like when strip club customers tell the dancers things others say, just to earn points. LOL.
Not expecting that any of this was eye-opening, just me talking out loud. =).I think you nailed it! The majority of the mongers who I think are sharing / showing reviews w / providers are probably love-struck with the girls. There are definitely some that do it to try to get discounts, better service / extras by seeming like a nicer guy than you or I.
DragonWolf
05-12-21, 04:51
I think you nailed it! The majority of the mongers who I think are sharing / showing reviews w / providers are probably love-struck with the girls. There are definitely some that do it to try to get discounts, better service / extras by seeming like a nicer guy than you or I.I'll take it a step further and add that the ladies often pull the same nonsense. Maybe less so on the independent side, but the agency and parlor ladies can be just as conniving.
RChangDatyKing
05-19-21, 10:09
Visited Wspa this after noon. Paid for a 30 minutes service. I was there for a sucky sucky and it was delivered correctly by Tina. But before me, there was a dude in the other room who didn't want to pay Tina the service she delivered. She was disappointed and told the dude to not comeback ever again. I will visit this place from time to time. Wzrd94 approves this place!
Invest on safemoon and bonfire coins.
I go to AMPs weekly and am starting to hear there being more Aholes not paying or wanting to pay girls for the services they delivered. One masseuse that I sometimes see told me a "younger " dude went in their shop and asked for her by name so she assumed he's been there before. After she massaged him and provided a HE the guy said he forgot to bring money for tips and needed to go to the ATM. Guy never returned with her tip. What a fuckin cheap ass! Because of these Aholes are why girls are starting to ask for tips upfront which we know kills the mood. Become a trusting and respectful customer and you will be treated like king.
Amp Wang Lei
05-20-21, 17:42
I go to AMPs weekly and am starting to hear there being more Aholes not paying or wanting to pay girls for the services they delivered. One masseuse that I sometimes see told me a "younger " dude went in their shop and asked for her by name so she assumed he's been there before. After she massaged him and provided a HE the guy said he forgot to bring money for tips and needed to go to the ATM. Guy never returned with her tip. What a fuckin cheap ass! Because of these Aholes are why girls are starting to ask for tips upfront which we know kills the mood. Become a trusting and respectful customer and you will be treated like king.I'm right with you on this one RChangDatyKing.
There are always going to be dirt bags who will steal from people they think they can rip off. I understand there are times she might think she deserves more, but to stiff her on a tip completely makes the monger a Complete Asshole. He's different from a partial Asshole who gets great service but only gives $5 or $10 bucks claiming it's the right tipping % for the service based on the HF.
Our lovely ladies are not waitresses, so take the 15- 20% good tip standard and toss it out the window. I put my tipping scale in a previous post so I won't repeat it here, but I will mention that comparing what we get, to what legitimate spas charge, we are getting a huge bargain. And a bargain that has happy endings and maybe even other benefits.
If your service is retched, then you should leave early, and tip small, if at all. If they cut your time short, let it be reflected in their tip, but if you stay and enjoy it all for the full time requested and they do a reasonable job, then tip them a respectable tip. I've heard girls complain that after an hour massage, an ass will give them a $5 tip. One darling told me a guy gave her a 10 and asked for change back! She said that it was so insulting she showed her coworkers, told them about him, and then threw it away.
I'm sure the hit and run Assholes are either not reading this, or are all proud of themselves for getting something for next to nothing. Eventually they'll get blacklisted, or the girls will ask for the tip up front, and their game will be done.
We have seen loads of suggestions on how to get more fun from our ladies, and honest fair tipping is a part of that. Don't rip of the ladies from the tips they worked for and deserve; I think most of you reading this will agree, if you do, you're pretty low.
DrPornDawger
05-21-21, 13:59
I'm right with you on this one RChangDatyKing.
There are always going to be dirt bags who will steal from people they think they can rip off. I understand there are times she might think she deserves more, but to stiff her on a tip completely makes the monger a Complete Asshole. He's different from a partial Asshole who gets great service but only gives $5 or $10 bucks claiming it's the right tipping % for the service based on the HF.
Our lovely ladies are not waitresses, so take the 15- 20% good tip standard and toss it out the window. I put my tipping scale in a previous post so I won't repeat it here, but I will mention that comparing what we get, to what legitimate spas charge, we are getting a huge bargain. And a bargain that has happy endings and maybe even other benefits.
If your service is retched, then you should leave early, and tip small, if at all. If they cut your time short, let it be reflected in their tip, but if you stay and enjoy it all for the full time requested and they do a reasonable job, then tip them a respectable tip. I've heard girls complain that after an hour massage, an ass will give them a $5 tip. One darling told me a guy gave her a 10 and asked for change back! She said that it was so insulting she showed her coworkers, told them about him, and then threw it away.
I'm sure the hit and run Assholes are either not reading this, or are all proud of themselves for getting something for next to nothing. Eventually they'll get blacklisted, or the girls will ask for the tip up front, and their game will be done.
We have seen loads of suggestions on how to get more fun from our ladies, and honest fair tipping is a part of that. Don't rip of the ladies from the tips they worked for and deserve; I think most of you reading this will agree, if you do, you're pretty low.I think those Asses are just trolling this site for "tips" where to go. And it's fucked up that it hurts the mongering world.
RChangDatyKing
05-21-21, 14:31
I think those Asses are just trolling this site for "tips" where to go. And it's fucked up that it hurts the mongering world.
I agree some (at least 2) are / were probably trolling this site because when they went to the shops they asked for the girls by names. I don't see these girls being discussed on any other sites. It is fucked up because it makes the girls not want to provide good service or makes them want to ask for tips upfront for a potentially good customers because of these Aholes. Yes, it does hurts the respectful and trustworthy mongers.
White Ghetto
06-01-21, 05:30
https://milfy.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/sandiego/62851831/
Noticed this puta was in town and she had great reviews. Comms were clear. Texted her early AM, two texts, into room. She grabs jr immediately, handed over donation, got busy. Good suction, great body. Started fucking in missionary, not very tight but still was good pussy. I asked for greek and we negotiated and extra donation while I was fucking her pussy. We switch into doggy and she guided me in her ass without much resistance. That was tight, muy apretada! My hands were squeezing those huge ass cheeks while I'm tapping her culito. Busted in the bag after a few minutes. Everything covered. We started at $100 for hhr FS, then another $60 for anal upgrade. Bare is probably available, for a price. If she stays in SD I'll repeat. She was looking for bitcoin to keep her PD ad active. She said PD is only accepting bitcoin for payment. You might get a good deal if you pay her in bitcoin.Are you sure this isn't a post op tranny? Loose "pussy", craves anal, the LC photos are heavily altered, most if not all LC reviews appear fake and emphasize anal, pussy in the video looks--unnatural, doesn't speak in videos so we can hear its voice.
I am seeing some major red flags here.
Are you sure this isn't a post op tranny? Loose "pussy", craves anal, the LC photos are heavily altered, most if not all LC reviews appear fake and emphasize anal, pussy in the video looks--unnatural, doesn't speak in videos so we can hear its voice.
I am seeing some major red flags here.I'm no expert, but I imagine a man-made vagina (post vaginoplasty) would be tight, not loose.
Are you sure this isn't a post op tranny? Loose "pussy", craves anal, the LC photos are heavily altered, most if not all LC reviews appear fake and emphasize anal, pussy in the video looks--unnatural, doesn't speak in videos so we can hear its voice.
I am seeing some major red flags here.
Did you tap that ass & pussy bare?One of you is just an uneducated troll and the other can't read!
Mr Troll. You need to learn more about hormones and the term androgenic. Without getting into medical parlance androgenic means "male characteristics & features", such as muscular definition, square jaw, facial hair, deep voice. The chica I was fucking was very feminine, all the way. Usually, in some form or another, the person in question has taken Testosterone or another highly androgenic hormone. Here's a few examples. I'm not saying all were males at some point, but I can nearly guarantee that these women have gone thru some type of hormone treatment for whatever reason.
https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/6192146867?gid=2c64dde4aa41d262c371b36c5aa4b32b
https://aypapi.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/62232795
https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/323356443https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/7604209483
White Ghetto
06-03-21, 01:03
One of you is just an uneducated troll and the other can't read!
Mr Troll. You need to learn more about hormones and the term androgenic. Without getting into medical parlance androgenic means "male characteristics & features", such as muscular definition, square jaw, facial hair, deep voice. The chica I was fucking was very feminine, all the way. Usually, in some form or another, the person in question has taken Testosterone or another highly androgenic hormone. Here's a few examples. I'm not saying all were males at some point, but I can nearly guarantee that these women have gone thru some type of hormone treatment for whatever reason.
https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/6192146867?gid=2c64dde4aa41d262c371b36c5aa4b32b
https://aypapi.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/62232795
https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/323356443https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/7604209483First of all, inflammatory comments on this forum are unacceptable. Calling someone a "troll" and "uneducated" because they asked if who you saw was a TS is a complete waste of bandwidth and demonstrates your low level of functioning.
Uneducated trolls that are on this forum are the ones who respond to simple valid questions the way you do instead of giving a simple answer that's actually helpful.
Whether they're trannies or uhm, "androgenic" escorts taking hormones makes no difference, it's still a TS. If the "chica" you were fucking is very feminine then I'm Ronald Reagan.
First of all, inflammatory comments on this forum are unacceptable. Calling someone a "troll" and "uneducated" because they asked if who you saw was a TS is a complete waste of bandwidth and demonstrates your low level of functioning.
Uneducated trolls that are on this forum are the ones who respond to simple valid questions the way you do instead of giving a simple answer that's actually helpful.
Whether they're trannies or uhm, "androgenic" escorts taking hormones makes no difference, it's still a TS. If the "chica" you were fucking is very feminine then I'm Ronald Reagan.Lighten up Karen.
White Ghetto
06-04-21, 01:17
Lighten up Karen.Never been lighter, Ken.
MykeyRecon
06-25-21, 22:32
I was on the freeway today when I spotted a van with a conspicuous enough sticker that I'm familiar with LOL. Looked like a driver was shuttling a young woman around town. I didn't get a great look, and didn't see a film crew, but I did wonder if any of my fellow mongers got a ride today have fun y'all!
RChangDatyKing
10-08-21, 01:26
To view this forum posting is encouraged, but not mandatory, and most who read these posts will never share a thing. If you do post, there is no way for anyone to demand you tell all. You share what you want to share, you keep what you want to keep.
But consider that, if you talk the talk and appear to have a lot of good intel, others are going to ask you for it. Considering what these forums are about, this should not surprise you. Hinting you got something great going on is only going to increase the mongers' interest, and they'll always ask for more, so if you post that way, get use to them asking.
If Mongers hounding you to tell more annoys and offends you, perhaps you should reconsider your option to post or not. Realize that, as soon as your post hits the forum you're putting yourself out there, and open to praise or criticism. I've received both and I have to be comfortable with either one as either can be expected once I post. A couple of my posts have drawn both, go figure. LOL.
Keep it in mind that this forum will always attract lazy mongers who want everything handed to them. They want the place, girl, performance, and even your tips with all the sexy details in-between. Just expect this. Many of us enjoying sharing, but aren't going to give all the details, but a lot do and that only feeds their expectation of getting information the easy way. Post the way you want and stick to your own objectives for posting.
Realize that if you do post something like finding a true 20's something beautiful friendly new girl spinner with large breasts who will do anything for you for. 4, and then include all the all the details of who, what, and where, you can bet a million Mongers will be after her the second they finish reading your post. Her next day is probably going to be busy as hades. I exaggerated a little in the description, but accept the fact that if you're posting specific information about someone good, a lot of Mongers will act on it. And they might do it right away.
We all have different views of what is appropriate for us to share. What you might share, I might not, and vice versa. Don't get unbalanced by the posts that you think shares too much, and don't get annoyed by the posts that don't share much at all.
Great posts are what brings us here. Post and share, post wisely, and post to the tune of your own conscience.
Max.
P.S. I would never tell a provider about this forum, and certainly never show them anything on it. Doing so is not good for anyone.
It's great that you are “highly” recommending/encouraging mongers to share and posts. Post what exactly though? Reviews, commenting on posts, posting topics for discussions, or giving advice? I don't think the verdict about you is out yet. Thats why you are getting both praised and criticism. I recall one monger commenting to one of your post, “why should we listen to your idea.” Well, I think he said stupid idea. I too am still deciding. You have about 35-36 posts and maybe 3 or 4 are actual reviews with names of masseuse you saw, but the rest is you commenting on posts, posting topics of discussions, or giving advice / suggestions. If I am reading / understanding this post of yours I think you are encouraging mongers to post reviews. I think some of us are wondering, when are you going to post some reviews?
NutterHoeMan has 6 posts and 4 of his are reviews? Only 6 posts and he has the same amount of reviews compared to your 35-36.
I'm not trying to call you out but this post with you encouraging people to post, and the last post where you are talking about mongers holding out makes me wonder?
MaximusKahn
10-08-21, 09:54
It's great that you are highly recommending/encouraging mongers to share and posts. Post what exactly though? Reviews, commenting on posts, posting topics for discussions, or giving advice? I don't think the verdict about you is out yet. Thats why you are getting both praised and criticism. I recall one monger commenting to one of your post, why should we listen to your idea. Well, I think he said stupid idea. I too am still deciding. You have about 35-36 posts and maybe 3 or 4 are actual reviews with names of masseuse you saw, but the rest is you commenting on posts, posting topics of discussions, or giving advice / suggestions. If I am reading / understanding this post of yours I think you are encouraging mongers to post reviews. I think some of us are wondering, when are you going to post some reviews?
NutterHoeMan has 6 posts and 4 of his are reviews? Only 6 posts and he has the same amount of reviews compared to your 35-36.
I'm not trying to call you out but this post with you encouraging people to post, and the last post where you are talking about mongers holding out makes me wonder?I always get a kick out of it when people say, "I'm not calling you out" after they just called you out, or are about to. That's always funny to me.
I've read some of your posts, have not analyzed them, but many are just comments, and some are vague, some clearly say how good you got it and stop there. Like right now in this post of you just commenting on me and my posts.
Like you, we all share what we can and feel might contribute to the exchanges in the forum.
I thought the theme of the post was clear. But if you read my full post intelligently, you can see the theme of my post was about what happens when you post about your visits to AMPs and your experiences there, and how Mongers will respond.
Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss this further. Max.
I do not believe this seriously. I do NOT recommend her.
Wow. She has become obsessed with working out. Flat belly very thin and tons of energy.
Cris is great. I have known her for 3 years and see her every week when she is available. She looks just like her pictures, has perfect boobs. Nice large C cups that are very perky. She gives a very nice massage and then the teasing starts. When I flip over she starts licking my balls, and then my shaft and then takes my dick into her mouth very slowly. She has perfected the BBBJ. I always pay the extra 100 for the upgrade. So nice that she is open minded. She slowly crawls up on top of me and takes my dick and lowers herself on to it. She rides me for 10 minutes and then we switch into missionary and then doggy. She also does quite a bit of yoga and her butt is very solid and nice to grab on too. One of the nicest asses that I've seen on a Chinese girl. Doggy is my favorite with her and in just a few minutes I unload and fill her up inside.
She speaks great English and we chat for a few minutes and then off to the shower to clean up. And I am on my way home a happy man.
Highly recommend!
Cheers.
https://orangecounty.rubratings.com/246015
Sir Bishop
10-31-21, 18:33
I do not believe this seriously. I do NOT recommend her.
Wow. She has become obsessed with working out. Flat belly very thin and tons of energy.
Cris is great. I have known ... man.
https://orangecounty.rubratings.com/246015I'm right there with your Dog Rice. I don't believe what was posted and also will not recommend her.
HiroSlammer7
10-31-21, 22:06
Wow. She has become obsessed with working out. Flat belly very thin and tons of energy.
Cris is great. I have known her for 3 years and see her every week when she is available. She looks just like her pictures, has perfect boobs. Nice large C cups that are very perky. She gives a very nice massage and then the teasing starts. When I flip over she starts licking my balls, and then my shaft and then takes my dick into her mouth very slowly. She has perfected the BBBJ. I always pay the extra 100 for the upgrade. So nice that she is open minded. She slowly crawls up on top of me and takes my dick and lowers herself on to it. She rides me for 10 minutes and then we switch into missionary and then doggy. She also does quite a bit of yoga and her butt is very solid and nice to grab on too. One of the nicest asses that I've seen on a Chinese girl. Doggy is my favorite with her and in just a few minutes I unload and fill her up inside.
She speaks great English and we chat for a few minutes and then off to the shower to clean up. And I am on my way home a happy man.
Highly recommend!
Cheers.
https://orangecounty.rubratings.com/246015Way too soon for April Fools!
I'm right there with your Dog Rice. I don't believe what was posted and also will not recommend her.Cue defensive response in 3. 2. 1.
Maldini 11
10-31-21, 22:46
Thats great if true. Maybe she'll quit using those fake pics and take a few selfies in a bikini at a known san Diego Beach location. Mask on of course.I don't think they are fake, but her Photoshop skills are phenomenal.
RChangDatyKing
10-31-21, 23:05
Thats great if true. Maybe she'll quit using those fake pics and take a few selfies in a bikini at a known san Diego Beach location. Mask on of course.
I don't think they are fake, but her Photoshop skills are phenomenal.
Cris's pictures are fake as can be. They are pictures of Kahlisa. Some of the pictures actually shows Kahlisas face and those who has seen Cris know its not her. The sad thing is, I think she actually used Kahlisa’s face in one of her girls’ ad.
I agree with Lion, she can do a selfie of her new look and show off that flat stomach and round butt with all her gym time.
https://www.thenude.com/cover/zishy/838986/kahlisa-boonyasak-in-quarantined-contestant-5-by-zach-venice
https://www.thenude.com/cover/watch4beauty/839369/kahlisa-in-casting-kahlisa-by-mark
https://rearden.coedcherry.com/pics/zishy-quarantined-contestant-5
RChangDatyKing
10-31-21, 23:46
Wow. She has become obsessed with working out. Flat belly very thin and tons of energy.
Cris is great. I have known her for 3 years and see her every week when she is available. She looks just like her pictures, has perfect boobs. Nice large C cups that are very perky. She gives a very nice massage and then the teasing starts. When I flip over she starts licking my balls, and then my shaft and then takes my dick into her mouth very slowly. She has perfected the BBBJ. I always pay the extra 100 for the upgrade. So nice that she is open minded. She slowly crawls up on top of me and takes my dick and lowers herself on to it. She rides me for 10 minutes and then we switch into missionary and then doggy. She also does quite a bit of yoga and her butt is very solid and nice to grab on too. One of the nicest asses that I've seen on a Chinese girl. Doggy is my favorite with her and in just a few minutes I unload and fill her up inside.
She speaks great English and we chat for a few minutes and then off to the shower to clean up. And I am on my way home a happy man.
Highly recommend!
Cheers.
https://orangecounty.rubratings.com/246015
Just my observation / opinion, the more you post about her I think the more business she loses. Lots of people that have used her "agency" aren't happy. She's screwed (pun intended) too many people with her bait and switch, shorted people on time, fake ads about "real pictures," etc.
I recommended some people to go see her because they didn't want to go through the screening hassle with SDAG and wanted more discretion than going to the AMPs. They were all disappointed. I will never recommend anyone to her again. Cris operates her business like a MMS who doesn't care about their new customers. If she wants to get clients, she needs to stop doing the bait and switch and actually bring some pretty and young girls, and don't short people on time!
I know we all want to support our favorites, but her poor track records speak for themselves.
The DudeInSd
10-31-21, 23:57
Thats great if true. Maybe she'll quit using those fake pics and take a few selfies in a bikini at a known san Diego Beach location. Mask on of course.She texted me the photos and they look great. She looks really tall if any of you guys like tall girls with long legs. As far as girls using "real pictures" can we all agree that all of it d agencies use fake pictures or at least photo shopped? This is not agumentetive? The fact is just like all of us many of these girls have families and do not want to use the real photographs. It is not rocket science. We all see all of you every week complaining about the pictures not being real. The good thing about Cris is she looks better than the photos. And please for the guys out there that are in the peanut gallery critiquing every post please at least contribute something. I would love for you guys to actually write a review rather than having $125 post and comments and actually having one with you. Thank you so much. And thank you more for the guys that actually contribute.
Dog Rice. Totally respect your opinion because you actually go and see the girls and actually write with you. Much respect for you and all that you do for this forum.
Cheers.
The DudeInSd
11-01-21, 00:04
ue defensive response in 3. 2. 1.Great to see you buddy. Welcome to the forum and glad you graduated from EMonkey. Thanks for all your contributions on Fae and the AMPs. I will certainly look to check out all of those places.
Thanks again.
InstinctGoku
11-01-21, 00:10
Just my observation / opinion, the more you post about her I think the more business she loses. Lots of people that have used her "agency" aren't happy. She's screwed (pun intended) too many people with her bait and switch, shorted people on time, fake ads about "real pictures," etc.
I recommended some people to go see her because they didn't want to go through the screening hassle with SDAG and wanted more discretion than going to the AMPs. They were all disappointed. I will never recommend anyone to her again. Cris operates her business like a MMS who doesn't care about their new customers. If she wants to get clients, she needs to stop doing the bait and switch and actually bring some pretty and young girls, and don't short people on time!
I know we all want to support our favorites, but her poor track records speak for themselves.I'm glad someone said it. Thank you RCDY.
Just my observation / opinion, the more you post about her I think the more business she loses. Lots of people that have used her "agency" aren't happy. She's screwed (pun intended) too many people with her bait and switch, shorted people on time, fake ads about "real pictures," etc.
I recommended some people to go see her because they didn't want to go through the screening hassle with SDAG and wanted more discretion than going to the AMPs. They were all disappointed. I will never recommend anyone to her again. Cris operates her business like a MMS who doesn't care about their new customers. If she wants to get clients, she needs to stop doing the bait and switch and actually bring some pretty and young girls, and don't short people on time!
I know we all want to support our favorites, but her poor track records speak for themselves.Yeah, I don't mind him being a bit enthusiastic about some lady there once in a while, but at some point when he says he goes and hangs out there weekly, you just start to think he is a shill and you have to take things he says with a grain of salt. My experience so far is it doesn't matter who you ask for, if she is working she is available, when you get there if she is not available, they will try to switch you to another lady without even telling you. I know Cris reads this stuff, here is some advice, just be honest with us, if she is not available, just say so, we will come back. If we get there and she is not available, offer us another lady sure, but tell us that is what you are doing. Us guys go there to see ladies we have read are good, but we have no idea what they look like, so you take advantage of that by swapping in another lady, when we figure it out, we just get pissed and lose trust in you. There are much better ways to keep a guy from walking out the door than to deceive them.
Cue defensive response in 3. 2. 1.LOL. So true.
Well atleast all of us on here know to just ignore him and stay away.
I do not believe this seriously. I do NOT recommend her.You've got to put a stop to this. That "report" was literally a copy and paste from a month ago when he tried to shill for her in the OC Asian pleaser discussion board. There are no reports from legitimate posters that even come close to what he's claiming. Maybe a ban on posting about Cris and her shop, similar to what the Vegas board did with CLL would help.
NorthSDasian
11-01-21, 03:18
It's sad too since I actually used to take his posts seriously as he's been around a while.
But I not only just zone out / ignore his Cris reviews, but I now also disregard his opinions on other girls out of Cris' group.
I've been hosed by bait and switches before. Man it's not fun, and you feel like the biggest sucker on the planet. I wouldn't want to wish that on anyone but he's lead a good amount of people that way for sure, and that's just not cool.
Cue defensive response in 3. 2. 1.
RChangDatyKing posts on average: posts two per day, visits masseuse every other day, does PR. I wonder if he / she manages or owns parlors / agency.
You've got to put a stop to this. That "report" was literally a copy and paste from a month ago when he tried to shill for her in the OC Asian pleaser discussion board. There are no reports from legitimate posters that even come close to what he's claiming. Maybe a ban on posting about Cris and her shop, similar to what the Vegas board did with CLL would help.LOL, no more free blowjobs for Elduderino.
It's sad too since I actually used to take his posts seriously as he's been around a while.
But I not only just zone out / ignore his Cris reviews, but I now also disregard his opinions on other girls out of Cris' group.
I've been hosed by bait and switches before. Man it's not fun, and you feel like the biggest sucker on the planet. I wouldn't want to wish that on anyone but he's lead a good amount of people that way for sure, and that's just not cool.If I see that username I just skip to the next post. Feels like a waste of time to read it. Just ignore and move on.
AJ.
RChangDatyKing posts on average: posts two per day, visits masseuse every other day, does PR. I wonder if he / she manages or owns parlors / agency.When his reviews and recommendations are spot on.
There are likely a lot of shills and managers and pimps on here, but most post total bs.
Get some credibility and come back with your own reviews.
RChangDatyKing
11-01-21, 19:00
RChangDatyKing posts on average: posts two per day, visits masseuse every other day, does PR. I wonder if he / she manages or owns parlors / agency.
Interesting coming from a first time poster. Wait, let me guess. You're a long time lurker, will post your first review in a month or so.
I'll answer some of your questions for entertainment purposes. Yes, I visit a masseuse every other day, sometimes daily, sometimes twice a day depending on how horny I am and if Ill let my little head take control. Lol
Does PR. I'm assuming RR RubRatings. Yes, I use that site as well. There are lots of hot independents there. You should try it. Please share your experience with all of us.
Do I manage or own parlors or agency. I wish- there's lots of money being made and people spending them every day and I am one of those spending them. Man, I was just talking to some of the fellas on here how we can budget for all this fun. Okay back to your question, if I own one of these establishments. I don't know what owner would ever promote so many different spas, agencies, providers. Why would an owner do that? Maybe I own them ALL of THEM, including some in the OC. Lol
I guess we'll see what some of the guys here think. What about the guys in OC Ive exchanged info with. The intel I've exchanged and detailed sessions about girls, parlors and agencies I've exchanged with many of these guys I guess they would all think I'm a spa or agency owner as well. LMAO!!
I'm surprised you didn't think I was a provider!
What a strange day. I get a PM from someone with zero post who wanted info on where to go for massages when there's an entire section on MPs. Now a question from a first time poster asking or "guessing / assuming" if I'm a spa (s) or agency owner. Your first post and you wonder if I’m part of the establishments? I don’t know about you or what your 2nd post will be, but I’m here looking to find where the best and prettiest kitties are.
Wait, maybe youre a spa owner or provider and am pissed because I havent reviewed you? Tell me/us where to go and Ill go check it out. I am picky though. No GILF, No BBW, No Fuglies.
If you are an actual monger and need a referral let me know. Lol
Admin- I guess this will make it to the Stupid Shit in San Diego section, but I don't know how to move it. LOL.
NutterHoeMan
11-01-21, 19:14
RChangDatyKing posts on average: posts two per day, visits masseuse every other day, does PR. I wonder if he / she manages or owns parlors / agency.I care, RCDK posts quality intel. Lately been seeing a lot of Lurkers one time posters that basically say "where is 108?" " where can I get good HE. " Etc. This site is great when intel is posted not so much when one time posters don't contribute. Not sure what purpose of your original post was since you have no Cred. Just my honest opinion.
DeeeezNutss
11-01-21, 19:21
Damn, so that's where all the hot girls are at, King owns all of them! You need to share the wealth! Hahaha.
But yes, I'd like to open up a parlor as well as there's so many of us mongers giving them our money!
Interesting coming from a first time poster. Wait, let me guess. You're a long time lurker, will post your first review in a month or so.
I'll answer some of your questions for entertainment purposes. Yes, I visit a masseuse every other day, sometimes twice a day depending on how horny I am.
Does PR. I'm assuming RR RubRatings. Yes, I use that site as well. There are lots of hot independents there. You should try it. Please share your experience with all of us.
Do I manage or own parlors or agency. I wish- there's lots of money being made and people spending them every day and I am one of those spending them. Man, I was just talking to some of the fellas on here how we can budget for all this fun. Okay back to your question, if I own one of these establishments. I don't know what owner would ever promote so many different spas, agencies, providers. Why would an owner do that? Maybe I own all of it!
I guess we'll see what some of the guys here think. The intel I've exchanged and detailed sessions about girls, parlors and agencies I've exchanged with many of these guys I guess they would all think I'm a spa or agency owner as well. LMAO!!
RChangDatyKing posts on average: posts two per day, visits masseuse every other day, does PR. I wonder if he / she manages or owns parlors / agency.1. RCDK is a legend on this forum and always provides valuable information. I'd be honored to buy him a beer any time for all of his posts that I've learned from.
2. Your insinuations make no sense for all the reasons he listed (lots of different places / girls / AMPs, etc.). Unless he is really the pussy Keiser Soze of San Diego and is overseeing all of it. (If so, please don’t hold it against me! I didn’t know she was working for you when I shot my load in her eye!)
3. Why do you have to go after other dudes? Why can't you just come to this thread and learn and contribute like most of the rest of us? Disagree with a guy's assessment of a provider, fine, disagree. All good if done respectfully, especially because there are some unabashed white knights on here and they need to be called out. But to come out of the gate going after him for what? Posting a lot? I struggle to understand the human psyche and what would motivate someone to do that other than just because you want to be an A-hole. Go get laid, maybe pop an edible, and just chill out.
End of rant.
HammerSmash
11-01-21, 20:12
RChangDatyKing posts on average: posts two per day, visits masseuse every other day, does PR. I wonder if he / she manages or owns parlors / agency.Dude / dud-et.
Get a life, although I don't know RCDK or even interacted with him, I have seen all of his post and contributions while doing my research. Let people be, and go get laid.
-Hammersmash.
I care, RCDK posts quality intel. Lately been seeing a lot of Lurkers one time posters that basically say "where is 108?" " where can I get good HE. " Etc. This site is great when intel is posted not so much when one time posters don't contribute. Not sure what purpose of your original post was since you have no Cred. Just my honest opinion.Going to add to this. A while back, posts weren't as consistent as they are now. Bluesky kept things going with his great storytelling, but after he moved away to NorCal, Chang filled that void. BSB posts got me to sign up, and I'm sure many have joined because of Changs contributions. So to the new guy, be like them.
RChangDatyKing posts on average: posts two per day, visits masseuse every other day, does PR. I wonder if he / she manages or owns parlors / agency.2 posts from a nobody criticizing a member with over 1400 mostly positive and informative posts NOT to mention the PM's he provides to deserving members. "King" is an appropriate and "earned" part of his member name.
The number of visits also crowns him the "King" and why he is able to contribute so much to this forum. I may also have as many encounters with these working ladies, but simply too lazy to post. However I do share via PM's to well known contributors whom are much better at providing details than myself. Most of the King's posts are on point. Be thankful not critical.
I'm a fan of the King!
And just the number of people replying and disagreeing with the commenter, you can see why. King is king, enough said.
DrPornDawger
11-03-21, 18:34
Could we agree that people can be envious of what other's have, people like King may have the charm, charisma, poetic flowery words, and also the extra disposable income to venture out into this hobby.
I do value his reports, reviews, and thoughts since it helps.
Let's get back to topic and review these providers. Other boards have a guy who just puts in some reviews, but no actual data.
Like a comment this person made, but no location of the joint, and it's been weeks.
Jstwntlvn1
11-04-21, 01:54
2 posts from a nobody criticizing a member with over 1400 mostly positive and informative posts NOT to mention the PM's he provides to deserving members. "King" is an appropriate and "earned" part of his member name.
The number of visits also crowns him the "King" and why he is able to contribute so much to this forum. I may also have as many encounters with these working ladies, but simply too lazy to post. However I do share via PM's to well known contributors whom are much better at providing details than myself. Most of the King's posts are on point. Be thankful not critical.
I'm a fan of the King!I'd like to 2nd what Ryan said. RCDK has posted so much valuable reviews. I have found the info he provides to be accurate based on my own experiences.
2 posts from a nobody criticizing a member with over 1400 mostly positive and informative posts NOT to mention the PM's he provides to deserving members. "King" is an appropriate and "earned" part of his member name.
The number of visits also crowns him the "King" and why he is able to contribute so much to this forum. I may also have as many encounters with these working ladies, but simply too lazy to post. However I do share via PM's to well known contributors whom are much better at providing details than myself. Most of the King's posts are on point. Be thankful not critical.
I'm a fan of the King!"Over 1400 mostly positive and informative posts" let say half are actual encounters then he is a king $$ math does not add up unless they are Ads_Erotica. Then there is / are CuriousJo8 or it is Curios_108 averages 2 visits daily and counting.
"Over 1400 mostly positive and informative posts" let say half are actual encounters then he is a king $$ math does not add up unless they are Ads_Erotica. Then there is / are CuriousJo8 or it is Curios_108 averages 2 visits daily and counting.CuriousJo8 is a horny bastard with the apparent funds to take full advantage of this hobby. I can relate, but he apparently has a much bigger allowance than me. His detailed reports have been on point, but I must admit I'm a little jelly of all the fun he's having. Haha!
RChangDatyKing
11-04-21, 23:39
Going to add to this. A while back, posts weren't as consistent as they are now. Bluesky kept things going with his great storytelling, but after he moved away to NorCal, Chang filled that void. BSB posts got me to sign up, and I'm sure many have joined because of Changs contributions. So to the new guy, be like them.
Yes, because of all the excellent posts by BlueSkyBlue was the reason I too signed up and started posting and sharing. I've met lots of great mongers since becoming a member. We've exchanged intel through PMs and we'll continue doing that. There are too many yahoos now. I'm glad there’s the ignore feature. LOL.
CuriousJo8
11-05-21, 00:13
Ooooh, I am more than one person, hahahaha.
I am just a new and humble Regular Member, writing my humble reports, so I can one day achieve Senior Member status, hahaha.
"or it is Curios_108" Bro, you need to read over your drafts for proper word ordering and spelling before you submit. = P.
What's your goal, by the way? Do you just want to be a troll behind your computer or do you want to go out into the world and get laid? The purpose of this webpage is to literally help you get laid, so why be a troll?
If cost overruns are such a concern for you, just go down to TJ and fuck a paradita. They're very nice and quite willing. =).
If you want the best value for the money, go to Hong Kong and pick a supermodel. = D.
"Over 1400 mostly positive and informative posts" let say half are actual encounters then he is a king $$ math does not add up unless they are Ads_Erotica. Then there is / are CuriousJo8 or it is Curios_108 averages 2 visits daily and counting.
CuriousJo8
11-05-21, 00:26
Oh my God BlueSkyBlue!
God bless you Sir!
Oh man, it's because of you, I was able to find A Spa. It's one thing to read your report about that young spinner, Lola, it was a whole other animal to actually meet her.
Her massage skills were legit, made me melt like butter, and the flirty giggles she made.
Only provider to ask me before flip time, "Honey, do you want something special?
And your review of 108 Sky. Thanks for giving us the heads up about her. Very nice and petite lady. After my second encounter with her, she asked me if I could drive her to the bank. Oh man, I will forever treasure that trust she gave me.
God bless you Sir!
Yes, because of all the excellent posts by BlueSkyBlue was the reason I too signed up and started posting and sharing. I've met lots of great mongers since becoming a member. We've exchanged intel through PMs and we'll continue doing that. There are too many yahoos now. I'm glad theres the ignore feature. LOL.
CuriousJo8
11-05-21, 01:10
My first posted report about Eva was at the tail end of a 5 day / 8 lady fuckfest. 108 Mia got me feverish and fired up, and I wanted to see how much I can push it to put out the flame and break my personal record of 3.
So to say I am a horny bastard might be an understatement, wuahahahaha. That's why I chose 8.
If you're curious about the list: 1. Thursday morning, 108 Mia 2. Thursday night, MRC Lily 3. Friday night, MRC Summer 4. Saturday night, 108 Linda 5. Sunday morning, 108 Amanda 6. Sunday morning, MRC Ivy 7. Sunday night, Smile Angel 8. Monday morning, 108 Eva.
I just try to make the most out of my day and live one day at a time. = P.
I am also a Tijuana Hong Kong enthusiast and a licensed skydiver. I love being able to talk in Spanish to those Mexican hotties. Fucking supermodels, God bless them! So if I'm not fucking a hottie, I'll be either riding in the airplane, while it climbs to altitude, or falling from the sky, hahahaha.
If you're a N00 B reading this, I suggest you read my Tijuana Hong Kong Report.
In this forum, I am just a new, humble Regular Member, writing my humble reports, so one day, I can be a Senior Member, hahaha.
I honestly did not think that my reported output was any different than any of you guys.
It's so nice to come out of the shadows.
Appreciate the shoutout. I found it quite entertaining seeing my handle as a title to one of the posted reports.
Cheers!
CuriousJo8 is a horny bastard with the apparent funds to take full advantage of this hobby. I can relate, but he apparently has a much bigger allowance than me. His detailed reports have been on point, but I must admit I'm a little jelly of all the fun he's having. Haha!
RChangDatyKing
11-05-21, 01:12
Could we agree that people can be envious of what other's have, people like King may have the charm, charisma, poetic flowery words, and also the extra disposable income to venture out into this hobby.
I do value his reports, reviews, and thoughts since it helps.
Let's get back to topic and review these providers. Other boards have a guy who just puts in some reviews, but no actual data.
Like a comment this person made, but no location of the joint, and it's been weeks.
I am considering writing my reviews in this format and leaving off the locations if they are non FS spas and independents. Those who know me can then PM me for the information if they are interested in the girls being reviewed. I am here to exchange information with mongers with shared interests and don’t want to deal with knuckle heads.
I am considering writing my reviews in this format and leaving off the locations if they are non FS spas and independents. Those who know me can then PM me for the information if they are interested in the girls being reviewed. I am here to exchange information with mongers with shared interests and dont want to deal with knuckle heads.95% of Chinese and 100% of k spas are FS anyway!
95% of Chinese and 100% of k spas are FS anyway!IMO approx 90% of AMPs are Chinese of which about 5% are FS. K-spas include their foot spas and bath spas, which are awesome, so I guess about 50% maybe FS. Speaking of Korean bath houses, don't be surprised to run into a few AMP girls at Yu Spa, Aqua Spa and especially Wi Spa in LA. Ask me how I know. Haha!
Eight is a lucky number in many Asian cultures, stemming from Chinese origins, so certainly an appropriate goal at AMP's. Been there, done that in a week, but never within a day. LOL! Has to be 8 different girls though. MSOG doesn't count. Haha.
My first posted report about Eva was at the tail end of a 5 day / 8 lady fuckfest. 108 Mia got me feverish and fired up, and I wanted to see how much I can push it to put out the flame and break my personal record of 3.
So to say I am a horny bastard might be an understatement, wuahahahaha. That's why I chose 8.
If you're curious about the list: 1. Thursday morning, 108 Mia 2. Thursday night, MRC Lily 3. Friday night, MRC Summer 4. Saturday night, 108 Linda 5. Sunday morning, 108 Amanda 6. Sunday morning, MRC Ivy 7. Sunday night, Smile Angel 8. Monday morning, 108 Eva.
I just try to make the most out of my day and live one day at a time. = P.
I am also a Tijuana Hong Kong enthusiast and a licensed skydiver. I love being able to talk in Spanish to those Mexican hotties. Fucking supermodels, God bless them! So if I'm not fucking a hottie, I'll be either riding in the airplane, while it climbs to altitude, or falling from the sky, hahahaha.
If you're a N00 B reading this, I suggest you read my Tijuana Hong Kong Report.
In this forum, I am just a new, humble Regular Member, writing my humble reports, so one day, I can be a Senior Member, hahaha.
RolfTorren
11-06-21, 12:52
Pardon my ignorance but what is a Korean Bath House? Are you referring to the ones that offer table showers like Know Knots?
IMO approx 90% of AMPs are Chinese of which about 5% are FS. K-spas include their foot spas and bath spas, which are awesome, so I guess about 50% maybe FS. Speaking of Korean bath houses, don't be surprised to run into a few AMP girls at Yu Spa, Aqua Spa and especially Wi Spa in LA. Ask me how I know. Haha!
RChangDatyKing
11-06-21, 14:52
Pardon my ignorance but what is a Korean Bath House? Are you referring to the ones that offer table showers like Know Knots?Places like YuSpa and Aqua Day Spa.
https://www.yuspasd.com/
Member #6555
11-07-21, 15:10
Places like YuSpa and Aqua Day Spa.
https://www.yuspasd.com/Yuspa is FS? Just on the site, it all seems. Interesting. I never really have experienced places like this before, just independents.
I know they probably have to say it but are the massages and stuff really from the "same gender" as it states?
Yuspa is FS? Just on the site, it all seems. Interesting. I never really have experienced places like this before, just independents.
I know they probably have to say it but are the massages and stuff really from the "same gender" as it states?My dude I think you have misread. Yu is absolutely NOT an FS spa.
The only way your getting anything erotic at Yu Spa is if you jerk yourself off. That's why it's called "Yu" spa. JK bro.
It's a Korean bath house with separate mens and women's hot tubs and common area saunas. They offer totally legit massage and body scrubs. It's really a great place to just relax and take the edge off. If you've never gone, give it a try.
I've taken many girls I know, including spa girls, here and places like it. They absolutely love it, especially the body scrubs that they swear makes their skin soft and smooth as butter.
Yuspa is FS? Just on the site, it all seems. Interesting. I never really have experienced places like this before, just independents.
I know they probably have to say it but are the massages and stuff really from the "same gender" as it states?
Member #6555
11-07-21, 16:38
My dude I think you have misread. Yu is absolutely NOT an FS spa.Thanks. That's what I thought. Got confused when he said 50% were and can see girls from AMP there.
Thanks. That's what I thought. Got confused when he said 50% were and can see girls from AMP there.For sure. I think he's saying some regular old massage gals love going to aqua spas. Some of my favorites used to go there all the time.
Forgive me ignorance but I'm just seeing this thread for the first time. What exactly is the point of it?
Forgive me ignorance but I'm just seeing this thread for the first time. What exactly is the point of it?Conversations that don't belong in threads get moved here. Usually its that one guy who talks about Cris all the time.
Conversations that don't belong in threads get moved here. Usually its that one guy who talks about Cris all the time.Thanks Ajaxer, I was curious about Chris's but now don't care.
RChangDatyKing
11-24-21, 18:50
More and more spas are mounting the monitors in rooms and in view of the customers so they can watch walk-ins in case everyone is busy AND so customers are aware they are on camera.
What's not being reported is the rise in assholes not tipping, extorting and other nefarious ways these low life's are taking advantage of these working girls. If you have a girl that wants the tip before the deed, this is why.Yes there are more and more lately. I mentioned this many months back about Aholes not tipping for services rendered.
I've said this before- Aholes, if you don't have the tip money stay home and jackoff or go to these mini theatre shops and do it there.
BlueSkyBlue
11-24-21, 19:03
These guys don't understand the business.
The girls are just working to make a living if you're not going to tip them or do you think the house fee includes the tip well you're wrong.
The only reason these girls are available is because there's money to be made whether it's to care for their parents, feed their children or are buying new Gucci purses, it doesn't matter the point is they should be paid for their services.
Just grow up, if you can't afford it just stay home and find an alternative without ripping somebody off.
Yes there are more and more lately. I mentioned this many months back about Aholes not tipping for services rendered.
Yes there are more and more lately. I mentioned this many months back about Aholes not tipping for services rendered.
I've said this before- Aholes, if you don't have the tip money stay home and jackoff or go to these mini theatre shops and do it there.Again, this is why some girls ask for the tip before the service is provided. This is not a hard behaviour to understand. Ask yourself, how many times you will do a job and not get paid before you start asking for some type of payment in advance?
MaximusKahn
11-24-21, 22:04
These guys don't understand the business.
The girls are just working to make a living if you're not going to tip them or do you think the house fee includes the tip well you're wrong.
The only reason these girls are available is because there's money to be made whether it's to care for their parents, feed their children or are buying new Gucci purses, it doesn't matter the point is they should be paid for their services.
Just grow up, if you can't afford it just stay home and find an alternative without ripping somebody off.Tips are essential. If you can't afford a fair to good tip for fair to good service, then you can't afford this hobby.
Stiffing a provider is wrong on many levels.
The tip is not included in the house fee. Forget the 20% basic rule. Tipping 20% like a restaurant is insulting to a good provider.
I know guys always ask, how much did you tip? I suggest one very simple rule. You should have equal to the house fee "minimum" in your pocket. So if house fee is. 6, you better have at least. 6 in your pocket for a good 1 hour massage with a good HE. If she performs better you should tip better. I would not walk into a place with less than $$ in my pocket. Seldom do I spend that, but I can be out the door at $. 6 often enough with my special providers, and still have a little reserve if something really amazing comes my way.
And don't forget, if she knows you are a nice guy and a good tipper, and you return, your service is generally very good the second time. Often even better than first. Be able to tip extra for extra service offered.
It's not a matter of understanding the business. These low life's are assholes, robbing these girls, plain and simple.
These guys don't understand the business.
The girls are just working to make a living if you're not going to tip them or do you think the house fee includes the tip well you're wrong.
The only reason these girls are available is because there's money to be made whether it's to care for their parents, feed their children or are buying new Gucci purses, it doesn't matter the point is they should be paid for their services.
Just grow up, if you can't afford it just stay home and find an alternative without ripping somebody off.
From that experiance, I can certainly see how some nefarious customers might want to take advantage of the RA, when they realize (as I did) that she was running the entire shop all by her lonesome.
Having the Monitor in the room is a big distraction, and it will tip-off any bad customer when the RA is working Solo.It's not just negating a tip. It's assholes posing as police, threatening to call police and basically ripping off or extorting these working girls in general.
Some of you guys are oversimplifying a complex issue that is effecting the service level of these girls that is effecting all of us. The monitors serve several purposes. One, to monitor the entrance if working solo or if everyone else is busy. Two, to let the nefarious types know they are on cam / video. Three, saving and sharing videos and pics of nefarious customers with other spa owners and girls. Four, too many spas have videos of straight out thieves breaking down doors and robbing the spa. Five, a video was used against a police raid on a spa. The spa owner sued and won the case against the city thanks to the video of police using racists and unnecessary force against the spa owner. Six, Offsite managers also monitor customer traffic for house collections.
I'm sure there are other reasons as well. Personally, I've enjoyed watching the monitors with the girls and they love it when I make up the commentary going on in the mind of the person on the monitor. Haha!
NutterHoeMan
11-25-21, 14:20
Tips are essential. If you can't afford a fair to good tip for fair to good service, then you can't afford this hobby.
Stiffing a provider is wrong on many levels.
The tip is not included in the house fee. Forget the 20% basic rule. Tipping 20% like a restaurant is insulting to a good provider.
I know guys always ask, how much did you tip? I suggest one very simple rule. You should have equal to the house fee "minimum" in your pocket. So if house fee is. 6, you better have at least. 6 in your pocket for a good 1 hour massage with a good HE. If she performs better you should tip better. I would not walk into a place with less than $$ in my pocket. Seldom do I spend that, but I can be out the door at $. 6 often enough with my special providers, and still have a little reserve if something really amazing comes my way.
And don't forget, if she knows you are a nice guy and a good tipper, and you return, your service is generally very good the second time. Often even better than first. Be able to tip extra for extra service offered.Not sure what purpose your posts serve. Folks in this board know how to monger and I generally read your "contributions" as somewhat patronizing and if not condescending. How about just positing some intel? This is just my honest opinion but I really don't see much value In these "tips."
NCWaterman
11-25-21, 15:32
Happy Thanksgiving, brother's!
Mimi sent me a text this morning, wishing me the same. And this right here, is what separates, 108/ Mimi from the rest. Simple Business 101- make the customer feel truly appreciated.
Now read below.
Yes there are more and more lately. I mentioned this many months back about Aholes not tipping for services rendered.
I've said this before- Aholes, if you don't have the tip money stay home and jackoff or go to these mini theatre shops and do it there.This! If you can't afford a thoughtful / considerate tip. Then "just stay home & jackoff" I always love the way you call it, RC!
And fwiw: Lily, at MRC (after our first rendezvous), has never again asked me for anything up front. And I ALWAYS take care of her after she's finished treating me so incredibly special!
Tips are essential. If you can't afford a fair to good tip for fair to good service, then you can't afford this hobby.
And don't forget, if she knows you are a nice guy and a good tipper, and you return, your service is generally very good the second time. Often even better than first. Be able to tip extra for extra service offered.Right on!
I think some guys really need to stop for a moment and do a little introspection. Imagine if the roles were reversed. And this were OUR Profession; and girls were coming in all the time trying to get the "dick," for free!
Nevermind. LOL.
I couldn't agree more after my visit yesterday at 108 I was texted and wished a happy holiday and that alone shows how much they care for their clients just as much as we care about them it's all about building a good report with them and this goes miles in the long run albeit if a new lady shows up and your given the first notice as to your taste -Just me two cents obviously
Happy Thanksgiving, brother's!
Mimi sent me a text this morning, wishing me the same. And this right here, is what separates, 108/ Mimi from the rest. Simple Business 101- make the customer feel truly appreciated.
Now read below.
This! If you can't afford a thoughtful / considerate tip. Then "just stay home & jackoff" I always love the way you call it, RC!
And fwiw: Lily, at MRC (after our first rendezvous), has never again asked me for anything up front. And I ALWAYS take care of her after she's finished treating me so incredibly special!
Right on!
I think some guys really need to stop for a moment and do a little introspection. Imagine if the roles were reversed. And this were OUR Profession; and girls were coming in all the time trying to get the "dick," for free!
Nevermind. LOL..
I get wanting to protect themselves but when they say oh I don't recognize the number your using it makes no sense. I use burner numbers and change them constantly like any smart monger. Then they say oh do you have references of other providers? Oh sure call Jenny ask her if Jay legit. Girl, she don't remember my ass like that and I'm not sharing my personal details enough to warrant her remembering me! None of it makes sense.
I get wanting to protect themselves but when they say oh I don't recognize the number your using it makes no sense. I use burner numbers and change them constantly like any smart monger. Then they say oh do you have references of other providers? Oh sure call Jenny ask her if Jay legit. Girl, she don't remember my ass like that and I'm not sharing my personal details enough to warrant her remembering me! None of it makes sense.Why change burner numbers?
I wouldn't see a provider who changed her number or name often because I assume she's hiding from bad reviews. They think you're hiding from a blacklist.
I had to change numbers once in 10 years due to tracfone's screw up. I made sure to tell my regulars right away, so they would know it's me.
If you insist on changing numbers, at least make up a hobby name for yourself if you need a reference.
Why change burner numbers?
I wouldn't see a provider who changed her number or name often because I assume she's hiding from bad reviews. They think you're hiding from a blacklist.
I had to change numbers once in 10 years due to tracfone's screw up. I made sure to tell my regulars right away, so they would know it's me.
If you insist on changing numbers, at least make up a hobby name for yourself if you need a reference.Plenty of reasons to change numbers. Maybe you don't want someone having your number anymore, or you want to appear like it's a dif person texting them, or you just change it to change it so there's not a lengthy trail behind you or just because I feel like it.
Make up a hobby name is pointless too. "Oh hey I'm Jeff, remember me?" Of course they don't, I'm not some special guy I'm just another customer to them, why would they remember me? Especially if it's been some time. "Oh hey I totally remember you out of 300 guys from 2 years ago. " Nah. I'm fine if that's a dealbreaker, there's not a lot of providers with such scrutiny in their process and when there is I just lie and say I've seen them, they don't know the difference. It's just a waste of time is what I'm saying.
Why change burner numbers?
I wouldn't see a provider who changed her number or name often because I assume she's hiding from bad reviews...Also on this subject, there's plenty of reason a provider would decide to change her number. Maybe some nutcase is obsessed with her and she doesn't want them blowing her up all the time. Or any other number of potentially dangerous situations. I def understand wanting consistency but there's reason on both ends in this game to not tie yourself to one recognizable trait like a number.
Also on this subject, there's plenty of reason a provider would decide to change her number. Maybe some nutcase is obsessed with her and she doesn't want them blowing her up all the time. Or any other number of potentially dangerous situations. I def understand wanting consistency but there's reason on both ends in this game to not tie yourself to one recognizable trait like a number.Is don't get annoyed over it.
Cheers.
DrPornDawger
12-08-21, 21:12
Dude's now adverts on EB.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/71529083
Who give better head? Men or women?
CueBall826
12-09-21, 00:02
Dude's now adverts on EB.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/71529083
Who give better head? Men or women?I say women.
Here is the truth.
Since we came in San Diego, we brought the best service and great young girls here. We all younger age girls than other massage parlors and provide the best service in San Diego area. We speak great English we succeed and caused threaten to other massage parlors. I believe the cop showed up to our parlor the other day by reported from other Competitor. The good thing is we are all US naturalized citizens and we all have California massage license. Thays why we all good that day. The reason I believe we are reported by competitor, because we received threaten letter which send it out from San Diego post office on 6th which we didn't pay attention to it. And we also get private message from a girl who is working at another massage parlor thought wechat app. Why we give so many services but charge less money than them? She said that's vicious competition. VIP parlor have been here over a year before we took over. They did same business and didn't get any problem about that. Why us? The next day morning after cops showed up our shop, our landlord came to us, he told us that there was a Chinese lady called him that morning, she would like to pay double rent to get our parlor. Our landlord turned her down. Why was she trying to do that? We are not going to give up.
DragonWolf
12-17-21, 21:20
Here is the truth.
Since we came in San Diego, we brought the best service and great young girls here. We all younger age girls than other massage parlors and provide the best service in San Diego area. We speak great English we succeed and caused threaten to other massage parlors. I believe the cop showed up to our parlor the other day by reported from other Competitor. The good thing is we are all US naturalized citizens and we all have California massage license. Thays why we all good that day. The reason I believe we are reported by competitor, because we received threaten letter which send it out from San Diego post office on 6th which we didn't pay attention to it. And we also get private message from a girl who is working at another massage parlor thought wechat app. Why we give so many services but charge less money than them? She said that's vicious competition. VIP parlor have been here over a year before we took over. They did same business and didn't get any problem about that. Why us? The next day morning after cops showed up our shop, our landlord came to us, he told us that there was a Chinese lady called him that morning, she would like to pay double rent to get our parlor. Our landlord turned her down. Why was she trying to do that? We are not going to give up.Sorry to hear that the competition has been giving you a rough time and trying to sabotage your business. =(.
NCWaterman
12-17-21, 21:39
Here is the truth.
Since we came in San Diego, we brought the best service and great young girls here. We all younger age girls than other massage parlors and provide the best service in San Diego area. We speak great English we succeed and caused threaten to other massage parlors. I believe the cop showed up to our parlor the other day by reported from other Competitor. The good thing is we are all US naturalized citizens and we all have California massage license. That's why we all good that day. The reason I believe we are reported by competitor, because we received threaten letter which send it out from San Diego post office on 6th which we didn't pay attention to it. And we also get private message from a girl who is working at another massage parlor thought wechat app. Why we give so many services but charge less money than them? She said that's vicious competition. VIP parlor have been here over a year before we took over. They did same business and didn't get any problem about that. Why us? The next day morning after cops showed up our shop, our landlord came to us, he told us that there was a Chinese lady called him that morning, she would like to pay double rent to get our parlor. Our landlord turned her down. Why was she trying to do that? We are not going to give up.Thank you girls, for "not giving up. " Nor will I.
Sorry to hear that the competition has been giving you a rough time and trying to sabotage your business.+1.
These other places better watch out! Two can play at this game. & I have a real strong feeling, that VIP isn't going to take this these type of intimidation tactics, lying down.
BlueSkyBlue
12-17-21, 22:26
Who exactly are you threatening?
Watch out for what?
Where are the "other places"?
There's a couple of full-service spas right down the street in the same area, literally blocks away. Do you mean those places?
Or every Spa that's ever been listed on this website?
So are you suggesting that VIP is at war with every other massage parlour in San Diego County? You do know there are hundreds of them right and what exactly are they going to do to every Spa?
It just sounds exactly like stupid shit to make vague threats against " other places".
These other places better watch out! Two can play at this game. & I have a real strong feeling, that VIP isn't going to take this these type of intimidation tactics, lying down.Posted in the right for.
The DudeInSd
12-17-21, 23:19
Here is the truth.
Since we came in San Diego, we brought the best service and great young girls here. We all younger age girls than other massage parlors and provide the best service in San Diego area. We speak great English we succeed and caused threaten to other massage parlors. I believe the cop showed up to our parlor the other day by reported from other Competitor. The good thing is we are all US naturalized citizens and we all have California massage license. Thays why we all good that day. The reason I believe we are reported by competitor, because we received threaten letter which send it out from San Diego post office on 6th which we didn't pay attention to it. And we also get private message from a girl who is working at another massage parlor thought wechat app. Why we give so many services but charge less money than them? She said that's vicious competition. VIP parlor have been here over a year before we took over. They did same business and didn't get any problem about that. Why us? The next day morning after cops showed up our shop, our landlord came to us, he told us that there was a Chinese lady called him that morning, she would like to pay double rent to get our parlor. Our landlord turned her down. Why was she trying to do that? We are not going to give up.So you posted two times?
MilfLoverr
12-17-21, 23:50
Here is the truth.
Since we came in San Diego, we brought the best service and great young girls here. We all younger age girls than other massage parlors and provide the best service in San Diego area. We speak great English we succeed and caused threaten to other massage parlors. I believe the cop showed up to our parlor the other day by reported from other Competitor. The good thing is we are all US naturalized citizens and we all have California massage license. Thays why we all good that day. The reason I believe we are reported by competitor, because we received threaten letter which send it out from San Diego post office on 6th which we didn't pay attention to it. And we also get private message from a girl who is working at another massage parlor thought wechat app. Why we give so many services but charge less money than them? She said that's vicious competition. VIP parlor have been here over a year before we took over. They did same business and didn't get any problem about that. Why us? The next day morning after cops showed up our shop, our landlord came to us, he told us that there was a Chinese lady called him that morning, she would like to pay double rent to get our parlor. Our landlord turned her down. Why was she trying to do that? We are not going to give up.Sorry that you all went through that and are still dealing with it. I came in last week to check the place out was greeted by Mina. Wow she was beautiful and so sweet. I was going to make my first visit the day this all went down but had a weird feeling about going and ended up not showing up. Hopefully once things calm down and you open it back up to people who haven't been I'll be able to visit these beautiful ladies.
RChangDatyKing
12-18-21, 01:39
Here is the truth.
Since we came in San Diego, we brought the best service and great young girls here. We all younger age girls than other massage parlors and provide the best service in San Diego area. We speak great English we succeed and caused threaten to other massage parlors. I believe the cop showed up to our parlor the other day by reported from other Competitor. The good thing is we are all US naturalized citizens and we all have California massage license. Thays why we all good that day. The reason I believe we are reported by competitor, because we received threaten letter which send it out from San Diego post office on 6th which we didn't pay attention to it. And we also get private message from a girl who is working at another massage parlor thought wechat app. Why we give so many services but charge less money than them? She said that's vicious competition. VIP parlor have been here over a year before we took over. They did same business and didn't get any problem about that. Why us? The next day morning after cops showed up our shop, our landlord came to us, he told us that there was a Chinese lady called him that morning, she would like to pay double rent to get our parlor. Our landlord turned her down. Why was she trying to do that? We are not going to give up.
Sorry to hear about the threatening letter you received, the random contact from a girl on WeChat, and your competitor (s) being assholes. Please don't give up.
If your competitors want to do better themselves, maybe they should do what your shop is doing and truly bring young and beautiful girls and provide great massage and service instead of bringing GILFs, rush / short customers on time, and false advertising of having young girls then bait and switch customers with grannies.
If competitor shop owners are trying to sabotage VIP I would have real concerns about going to your shop if this is how you conduct business. As a monger I will take my business to an establishment that makes me feel safe, welcomed, provide great service and treat me like I’m the most important customer when I walk-in that door. For me, the name of the spa is not important. Have beautiful girls, provide great service and make me feel safe and you will have me as a client.
NCWaterman
12-18-21, 15:07
Who exactly are you threatening?
Watch out for what?
Where are the "other places"?
There's a couple of full-service spas right down the street in the same area, literally blocks away. Do you mean those places?
Or every Spa that's ever been listed on this website?
So are you suggesting that VIP is at war with every other massage parlour in San Diego County? You do know there are hundreds of them right and what exactly are they going to do to every Spa?.Please! There's no need for being this dramatic. This is a fun enjoyable hobby for me. So stretching my word's to fit your subjective narrative, really isn't being helpful.
So with all due respect: I can't answer for what VIP plans to do, or how they would even be able combat these type of jealous, spiteful, people, who have clearly demonstrated, that they're willing to stoop to such a despicable low level. The damage that this person / people have inflicted on VIP, has already been done, & cannot be undone.
But I will tell you this: If somebody were to ever try to sabotage MY BUSINESS (in this same type despicable low-life manner), there would be retribution, if I did in fact find out whom was responsible. My point being: Two can play dirty at the same game, if need be.
Sorry to hear about the threatening letter you received, the random contact from a girl on WeChat, and your competitor (s) being assholes. Please don't give up.
If your competitors want to do better themselves, maybe they should do what your shop is doing and truly bring young and beautiful girls and provide great massage and service instead of bringing GILFs, rush / short customers on time, and false advertising of having young girls then bait and switch customers with grannies.
If competitor shop owners are trying to sabotage VIP I would have real concerns about going to your shop if this is how you conduct business. As a monger I will take my business to an establishment that makes me feel safe, welcomed, provide great service and treat me like Im the most important customer when I walk-in that door. For me, the name of the spa is not important. Have beautiful girls, provide great service and make me feel safe and you will have me as a client.I have the utmost respect for you, King! What you posted above, is what I was trying to convey (although I guess I failed miserably at it).
It's funny how you can post something on the internet, & then basically some random anonymous person (username) comes along & read's it. And spins your word's even further away from wrote.
When you read the reviews being posted here, and then you see the jealousy and vindictive level the other's in this line of business are willing to go, to destroy their competition, it's pretty disgusting!
The competition, should literally thanking the AMP's, like VIP & 108, for providing them with a very simple, basic Business Model for them to also follow: When you're in business & you have the best product out there on the market, & it appeals to the consumer; they (the consumer / us hobbyists), plain & simple- are going to buy it!
My advice to the other AMP's (competition) not happy with VIP & 108 monopolizing the customer's out there:
Bring in a higher quality competitive product and people will flock to it / them. We just literally watched this happen right before our very eyes here. When everyone here jumped ship in droves, going from 108/ Eva to get the NEW even better flavor on the month, over at VIP (Lisa Mina & Cici).
So what I was trying to say in my last post, is this: I have a feeling, that VIP, will be smarter (more careful) moving forward. And they're going to be bringing down even hotter girls (if that's at all possible), as a counter attack for what they've suffered. As I've stated, they haven't lost me as a customer, & I'll figure out a way to keep seeing these girls, & in fact, I already have.
Stay safe out there fellow monger's & be smart.
… These other places better watch out! Two can play at this game. & I have a real strong feeling, that VIP isn't going to take this these type of intimidation tactics, lying down.No doubt, VIP has some good looking young ladies that know how to please. Not as young as advertised, but beautiful just the same. Their english skills, better than most AMPs, is a huge plus for most of their customers.
Police visits to AMP's are generally prompted by a complaint, usually from locals and some nefarious customers. The rumor is it was locals such as surrounding businesses or nosey neighbors that notified the police of suspicious activity at VIP. The so called warning letter (written in English?) was most likely from a local. Anyone that regularly uses WeChat with the SD AMP scene knows VIP was all the gossip with chatter exactly as Lvyo0 mentioned, but nothing threatening towards them, rather curiosity. Paranoia by VIP similar to the paranoid mongers claiming cameras being planted and cops watching spas everywhere.
The police at VIP was most likely NOT triggered from any competition. Spas may get jealous, but reporting each other to the police is akin to drug dealers ratting on each other. Honor amongst thieves and they would only be raising the heat on each other. Police visits to any spas in the SD area hurts business for all the spas, scaring the faint hearted mongers, with speculation of cameras being planted and police watching spas being naively brought up.
The only cameras to be concerned about are the ones customers sneak in to capture the girls and post online. Yeah, you guys know who you are. The only suspicious vehicles watching the spas are probably other mongers, as I've read so many of you admit to sitting in your cars watching customers coming and going. I do the same and split if too much activity. I'm the one in a black unmarked wearing mirror glasses. JK, ha!
What I find most interesting about this police intervention was the coordination between Spring Valley PD and the Sheriffs department. Also that John's were ticketed as opposed to the girls. Customers are usually ignored with the target being the spa and the girls but I can't say the same for AAMP's. Even though the girls had proper I'd and licenses, they still could have been ticketed for other violations such as improper dress. Full length pants and proper coverage is outlined in most cities massage license guidelines.
As far as their new system is concerned, one of my favorite spas was busted by a "trusted" customer. Apparently he had some other charges against him, so negotiated a deal to lesson the charges by vouching for an undercover cop as a trusted friend. No honor amongst mongers.
All the best to VIP and their girls, but the rumor is they're already looking to relocate. Smart move. In the meantime, I'm mongering on as usual, but most of the AMP's I frequent do have a secure entrance door.
TomCruiseeee
12-19-21, 13:31
I like the spas with the monitors. Serenity and Smile has a locked foyer and monitors in all the rooms.
No doubt, VIP has some good looking young ladies that know how to please. Not as young as advertised, but beautiful just the same. Their english skills, better than most AMPs, is a huge plus for most of their customers.
Police visits to AMP's are generally prompted by a complaint, usually from locals and some nefarious customers. The rumor is it was locals such as surrounding businesses or nosey neighbors that notified the police of suspicious activity at VIP. The so called warning letter (written in English?) was most likely from a local. Anyone that regularly uses WeChat with the SD AMP scene knows VIP was all the gossip with chatter exactly as Lvyo0 mentioned, but nothing threatening towards them, rather curiosity. Paranoia by VIP similar to the paranoid mongers claiming cameras being planted and cops watching spas everywhere.
The police at VIP was most likely NOT triggered from any competition. Spas may get jealous, but reporting each other to the police is akin to drug dealers ratting on each other. Honor amongst thieves and they would only be raising the heat on each other. Police visits to any spas in the SD area hurts business for all the spas, scaring the faint hearted mongers, with speculation of cameras being planted and police watching spas being naively brought up.
The only cameras to be concerned about are the ones customers sneak in to capture the girls and post online. Yeah, you guys know who you are. The only suspicious vehicles watching the spas are probably other mongers, as I've read so many of you admit to sitting in your cars watching customers coming and going. I do the same and split if too much activity. I'm the one in a black unmarked wearing mirror glasses. JK, ha!
RChangDatyKing
12-19-21, 15:11
I like the spas with the monitors. Serenity and Smile has a locked foyer and monitors in all the rooms.Must be new with the monitors in the rooms at Smile, there weren't any a couple of months ago.
The DudeInSd
12-19-21, 16:21
I like the spas with the monitors. Serenity and Smile has a locked foyer and monitors in all the rooms.Agree 100%. If you're going to run a full service Spa you need to have cameras and a front door with a deadbolt to at least slow down the entrance if there is a problem. Ocean 108 and VIP literally have no defense because you walk in the front door and you're already looking right at the girls. VIP is even worse because the rooms do not have walls that go all the way to the roof so you can hear every word and every sound from anybody that's in side the shop. These shop owners need to get smart and learn how to provide privacy and security. Spend the extra couple of thousand dollars to avoid lots of trouble.
TomCruiseeee
12-19-21, 17:06
Must be new with the monitors in the rooms at Smile, there weren't any a couple of months ago.Maybe not all the rooms have monitors, but mine definitely did. BTW Nancy is my current favorite at Smile. Very pretty IMO. She is very sweet and I enjoy our chat chat before we enjoy each other.
No doubt, VIP has some good looking young ladies that know how to please. Not as young as advertised, but beautiful just the same. Their english skills, better than most AMPs, is a huge plus for most of their customers.
Police visits to AMP's are generally prompted by a complaint, usually from locals and some nefarious customers. The rumor is it was locals such as surrounding businesses or nosey neighbors that notified the police of suspicious activity at VIP. The so called warning letter (written in English?) was most likely from a local. Anyone that regularly uses WeChat with the SD AMP scene knows VIP was all the gossip with chatter exactly as Lvyo0 mentioned, but nothing threatening towards them, rather curiosity. Paranoia by VIP similar to the paranoid mongers claiming cameras being planted and cops watching spas everywhere.
The police at VIP was most likely NOT triggered from any competition. Spas may get jealous, but reporting each other to the police is akin to drug dealers ratting on each other. Honor amongst thieves and they would only be raising the heat on each other. Police visits to any spas in the SD area hurts business for all the spas, scaring the faint hearted mongers, with speculation of cameras being planted and police watching spas being naively brought up.
The only cameras to be concerned about are the ones customers sneak in to capture the girls and post online. Yeah, you guys know who you are. The only suspicious vehicles watching the spas are probably other mongers, as I've read so many of you admit to sitting in your cars watching customers coming and going. I do the same and split if too much activity.Mina said that they have a new location in downtown for trusted customers. That will be much better for me since I'm kidda addicted to the girls at VIP. Hehehe.
Police sting gone wrong: https://www.cc.com/video/qjb35z/reno-911-prostitution-sting.
TomCruiseeee
12-24-21, 18:27
Police sting gone wrong: https://www.cc.com/video/qjb35z/reno-911-prostitution-sting.Too fucking funny!
RChangDatyKing
01-01-22, 15:15
I know we are all waiting; so AM I. It will be the Best of the Best in town and for the well deserved.
VIP's new location will be for established and regular clients. If you are considering meeting these lovely ladies, do it now at their current location to be put on the "VIP" list. Call to make your appointment, give the ladies your name and be willing to show proof of your name. This protocol protects us all.
If you've insulted the spa, been rude, disrespectful, not gentlemen like, continuing to request for services the girls don't advertise or is willing to do with YOU - You will probably not be allow to play in the new playhouse for grownups.
RChangDatyKing
01-01-22, 15:33
Mina said that they have a new location in downtown for trusted customers. That will be much better for me since I'm kidda addicted to the girls at VIP. Hehehe.Yes, it will be for trusted clients.
Guys, don't be a Dumb Ass. Being a gentleman will reap you the rewards.
NCWaterman
01-01-22, 16:14
I know we are all waiting; so AM I. It will be the Best of the Best in town and for the well deserved.
VIP's new location will be for established and regular clients. If you are considering meeting these lovely ladies, do it now at their current location to be put on the "VIP" list. Call to make your appointment, give the ladies your name and be willing to show proof of your name. This protocol protects us all.
If you've insulted the spa, been rude, disrespectful, not gentlemen like, continuing to request for services the girls don't advertise or is willing to do with YOU - You will probably not be allow to play in the new playhouse for grownups.
Yes, it will be for trusted clients.
Guys, don't be a Dumb Ass. Being a gentleman will reap you the rewards.Thank you, RCK; and the girls at VIP thank you as well.
VIP, is very adamant, regarding enforcing their new stricter polices, as they should be. Member's here, whom they haven't seen, will need to be verified and EARN their trust.
Which is what every AMP should be doing, IMHO.
The DudeInSd
01-04-22, 05:50
As an infectious disease health care provider for 25+ years, it Is interesting to see folks talk about CBJ vs BBBJ and BBFS vs CFS. The facts are simple and can be researched easily, STDs (STi) can be transmitted without a condom. The most common being Herpes and Chlamydia. Bottom line is if you are eating pussy or getting a BBBJ you are at risk.
The main reason many providers will not allow BBFS is because they do not want to get pregnant. If there are girls out there thinking they can't get an STD from giving a BBBJ then they are mistaken.
Stay safe out there.
Cheers!
As an infectious disease health care provider for 25+ years, it Is interesting to see folks talk about CBJ vs BBBJ and BBFS vs CFS. The facts are simple and can be researched easily, STDs (STi) can be transmitted without a condom. The most common being Herpes and Chlamydia. Bottom line is if you are eating pussy or getting a BBBJ you are at risk.
The main reason many providers will not allow BBFS is because they do not want to get pregnant. If there are girls out there thinking they can't get an STD from giving a BBBJ then they are mistaken.
Stay safe out there.
Cheers!Thanks for bringing this out.
I never do BBFS but do daty and BBBJ.
Need to think about it now.
PenguinsAndieg
01-04-22, 13:45
Thanks for bringing this out.
I never do BBFS but do daty and BBBJ.
Need to think about it now.Any of you guys pick up an any unwanted presents even when using a cover (FS) in this hobby? What about BBBJ or daty?
Wife got a UTI over Christmas and I thought I had picked something up. To be extra sure, I went to get tested today and have to wait a week for results. Hoping for good news, don't know how I'm going to talk myself out of this one if the results are unfavorable.
Regarding the sting that went down, I'm really curious how they were able to site the mongers that were there. What evidence did they have of soliciting? Did they catch you in the act? Even so don't they need evidence of financial transaction for said act. Did they plant recording devices in the rooms? I think this is very rare but hearing about that whole incident has put me on full stop. The protection I felt I had in going to AMP's is gone.
DrPornDawger
01-04-22, 14:43
Regarding the sting that went down, I'm really curious how they were able to site the mongers that were there. What evidence did they have of soliciting? Did they catch you in the act? Even so don't they need evidence of financial transaction for said act. Did they plant recording devices in the rooms? I think this is very rare but hearing about that whole incident has put me on full stop. The protection I felt I had in going to AMP's is gone.I'm not a lawyer nor am I involved with LE. Those are great questions. The officers can cite anyone with probable cause and that's up to the courts to prove there was probable cause. In this situation, it looks as if the officer probably wants to scare the shit out of other mongers since the news will spread of what happened at a given location. As mentioned before, LE can also read these boards.
The individuals who were cited will need to explain why the officer gave them that citation. (example speeding ticket), officer thinks you were over the speeding limit, stops you and cites you. Do they really have evidence you did it? Another one is the rolling through stop sign.
I would consult an attorney, time and money (lots of it).
Sir Bishop
01-04-22, 14:46
Regarding the sting that went down, I'm really curious how they were able to site the mongers that were there. What evidence did they have of soliciting? Did they catch you in the act? Even so don't they need evidence of financial transaction for said act. Did they plant recording devices in the rooms? I think this is very rare but hearing about that whole incident has put me on full stop. The protection I felt I had in going to AMP's is gone.When did this happen? Or was this the recent shakedown? What is your source?
When did this happen? Or was this the recent shakedown? What is your source?It happened like a month ago. Scroll back a few pages in the massage section.
The individuals who were cited will need to explain why the officer gave them that citation. (example speeding ticket), officer thinks you were over the speeding limit, stops you and cites you. Do they really have evidence you did it? Another one is the rolling through stop sign.
.The evidence is the radar gun or them witnessing the crime. That's not really analogous to what happened here, unless they did witness it somehow which is what I'm wondering.
The DudeInSd
01-04-22, 17:03
Regarding the sting that went down, I'm really curious how they were able to site the mongers that were there. What evidence did they have of soliciting? Did they catch you in the act? Even so don't they need evidence of financial transaction for said act. Did they plant recording devices in the rooms? I think this is very rare but hearing about that whole incident has put me on full stop. The protection I felt I had in going to AMP's is gone.Oh dude, yes 100% I was chatting with a buddy who is a cop and I asked him about it. I told him about the license check and he just started laughing, he said anybody that goes and visits that place is really at risk now because they were simply setting up their next sting which will end up closing down the shop and putting all of the girls in jail along with the mongers. It was fun while it lasted.
DragonWolf
01-04-22, 17:47
The evidence is the radar gun or them witnessing the crime. That's not really analogous to what happened here, unless they did witness it somehow which is what I'm wondering.I was going to say that with the acoustics in there, probably just opened the door and heard the fun times.
But seriously, it seems there appears to be a lot of hearsay and speculation about the situation, so I recommend really taking the time to read through everything, before adding fuel to the fire by making it out to be more than it might've actually been. I'm saying this in general and not singling anyone out.
Any of you guys pick up an any unwanted presents even when using a cover (FS) in this hobby? What about BBBJ or daty?
Wife got a UTI over Christmas and I thought I had picked something up. To be extra sure, I went to get tested today and have to wait a week for results. Hoping for good news, don't know how I'm going to talk myself out of this one if the results are unfavorable.A UTI is not an STD.
I was going to say that with the acoustics in there, probably just opened the door and heard the fun times.
But seriously, it seems there appears to be a lot of hearsay and speculation about the situation, so I recommend really taking the time to read through everything, before adding fuel to the fire by making it out to be more than it might've actually been. I'm saying this in general and not singling anyone out.I heard one gentleman was in the room still dressed and the other was waiting in the lobby having not gone in yet, both cited for soliciting just for being there. There is no doubt in my mind that the DA would drop both these cases for lack of evidence, but for a lot of guys, the damage is done just getting the citation. They know this and it's a scare tactic. Would be interesting to hear how those two cases get resolved. I am sure they will first be offered a deal, I would be inclined to not take a deal and make them prove it. But I am not a lawyer, I would get a good lawyer and follow their advice. What would be ideal is if somebody filed a civil suit against the police for citing them with no evidence whatsoever, make them think twice before violating a persons rights. Of course like I said, the damage is done just by getting the citation in a lot of cases.
PenguinsAndieg
01-05-22, 15:17
A UTI is not an STD.Agreed, but the symptoms of chlamydia are very similar And the timing was highly suspect as well. Like 5 days after visiting a provider.
Still hoping timing was all coincidental.
The DudeInSd
01-05-22, 16:20
Agreed, but the symptoms of chlamydia are very similar And the timing was highly suspect as well. Like 5 days after visiting a provider.
Still hoping timing was all coincidental.Chlamydia typically presents with bright red bloodshot eyes and a lot of mucus discharge from the eyes. The mucus discharge will accumulate on your eyelashes to make your eyelashes feel like they are sticky and clumping together. If you do not have these symptoms associated with your eyes, you are more likely to have a urinary tract infection. If you have these symptoms along with a burning sensation when you urinate then you most likely have chlamydia.
Hope this helps. If you have any more questions feel free to PM me.
RolfTorren
01-05-22, 17:54
The scare tactics have worked thus far, at least on me. In my sober moments as I reread the posts about the "raid" I tell myself don't be a fool. Stay away! Fear of Cops comes before fear of Clap and Covid. But then I start reading the posts about the epic fuckfest going on there daily and I am soooo tempted. Not sure which little voice will win out in the end.
I heard one gentleman was in the room still dressed and the other was waiting in the lobby having not gone in yet, both cited for soliciting just for being there. There is no doubt in my mind that the DA would drop both these cases for lack of evidence, but for a lot of guys, the damage is done just getting the citation. They know this and it's a scare tactic. Would be interesting to hear how those two cases get resolved. I am sure they will first be offered a deal, I would be inclined to not take a deal and make them prove it. But I am not a lawyer, I would get a good lawyer and follow their advice. What would be ideal is if somebody filed a civil suit against the police for citing them with no evidence whatsoever, make them think twice before violating a persons rights. Of course like I said, the damage is done just by getting the citation in a lot of cases.
Cobra Comander
01-05-22, 18:00
Chlamydia typically presents with bright red bloodshot eyes and a lot of mucus discharge from the eyes. The mucus discharge will accumulate on your eyelashes to make your eyelashes feel like they are sticky and clumping together. If you do not have these symptoms associated with your eyes, you are more likely to have a urinary tract infection. If you have these symptoms along with a burning sensation when you urinate then you most likely have chlamydia.
Hope this helps. If you have any more questions feel free to PM me.Not saying you're wrong but I tested positive for the clap back in 2010, just had the mild burning sensation when urinating and my pee was SUPER cloudy. I thought I had a UTI but planned parenthood said otherwise.
CC.
A UTI is not an STD.True but a "UTI" is often just a polite or preliminary / pre-diagnosis term for a STD. In the military the joke was that officers got UTIs, enlisted got STDs.
But then I start reading the posts about the epic fuckfest going on there daily .I know some senior members are among those posts and I don't doubt them but there have also been a lot of new accounts making those posts. VIP has completely taken over the massage section. Seems to me there business is suffering and they are trying desperately to gain it back.
DrPornDawger
01-06-22, 15:30
The scare tactics have worked thus far, at least on me. In my sober moments as I reread the posts about the "raid" I tell myself don't be a fool. Stay away! Fear of Cops comes before fear of Clap and Covid. But then I start reading the posts about the epic fuckfest going on there daily and I am soooo tempted. Not sure which little voice will win out in the end.I have yet to go back after the mention of the citation.
So tempted. I miss Lisa, Mina, and CiCi.
DrPornDawger
01-06-22, 21:09
This would be an ideal fantasy for me.
Maybe VIP will make it come true.
RChangDatyKing
01-08-22, 11:55
I know we are all waiting; so AM I. It will be the Best of the Best in town and for the well deserved.
VIP's new location will be for established and regular clients. If you are considering meeting these lovely ladies, do it now at their current location to be put on the "VIP" list. Call to make your appointment, give the ladies your name and be willing to show proof of your name. This protocol protects us all.
If you've insulted the spa, been rude, disrespectful, not gentlemen like, continuing to request for services the girls don't advertise or is willing to do with YOU - You will probably not be allow to play in the new playhouse for grownups.
Guys, please don't continue to PM me asking the new VIP location. Make your appointment for the Spring Valley location, be a gentleman so you are deemed a trusted client then you will be given another number to make the appointment.
If you have zero posts and are asking me for the location I will block you.
RChangDatyKing
01-08-22, 20:43
Guys, please don't continue to PM me asking the new VIP location. Make your appointment for the Spring Valley location, be a gentleman so you are deemed a trusted client then you will be given another number to make the appointment.
If you have zero posts and are asking me for the location I will block you.This also applies to Senior Members. I will not give out the address or contact information to their new location. Only the ladies will decide who they will give that information to. You will need to make your initial appointment for the Spring Valley location and have your first session there and be "screened" before they will give you the contact number for the new location.
DeeeezNutss
01-09-22, 00:37
I've seen Mina a few times at the Spring Valley location and after they got the new location, I've seen Mina multiple times. In fact 3 times this week! Think it's just how the vibe is so much nicer there and really liking just the one on one intimate sessions with her. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the threesomes at Spring Valley but just been enjoying the one on one time with Mina and it just gets better every visit. Does this mean I have an addiction? Do I need help? LOL.
RChangDatyKing
01-09-22, 13:14
I've seen Mina a few times at the Spring Valley location and after they got the new location, I've seen Mina multiple times. In fact 3 times this week! Think it's just how the vibe is so much nicer there and really liking just the one on one intimate sessions with her. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the threesomes at Spring Valley but just been enjoying the one on one time with Mina and it just gets better every visit. Does this mean I have an addiction? Do I need help? LOL.I say you have excellent taste. Mina is probably one of the best GFE experience at any AMP right now. She has a banging body, give the most sensuous kisses, sexy as hell and her service is top notched. I too like the 3-some foreplay and previews, but getting an uninterrupted time with Mina is unmatched. I guess I too am an addict. LOL.
Chlamydia typically presents with bright red bloodshot eyes and a lot of mucus discharge from the eyes. The mucus discharge will accumulate on your eyelashes to make your eyelashes feel like they are sticky and clumping together. If you do not have these symptoms associated with your eyes, you are more likely to have a urinary tract infection. If you have these symptoms along with a burning sensation when you urinate then you most likely have chlamydia.
Hope this helps. If you have any more questions feel free to PM me.Man, stop spreading false information left and right. Chlamydia can be asymptomatic. What you are saying shows you are misinformed and this is dangerous if anyone believes you. People in this hobby should be tested regularly even if no symptoms. Stay safe guys.
Man, stop spreading false information left and right. Chlamydia can be asymptomatic. What you are saying shows you are misinformed and this is dangerous if anyone believes you. People in this hobby should be tested regularly even if no symptoms. Stay safe guys.It's not misinformation and I appreciate his posts. I also appreciate your additional details. Though I'm aware of the risks mentioned, I just can't resist the exchange of bodily fluids with a beautiful woman. So the information both of you provided is helpful. Thanks to both of you!
The DudeInSd
01-09-22, 14:26
Man, stop spreading false information left and right. Chlamydia can be asymptomatic. What you are saying shows you are misinformed and this is dangerous if anyone believes you. People in this hobby should be tested regularly even if no symptoms. Stay safe guys.First off I am an infectious disease physician so I can promise you nobody knows more about this than me. I see patients all the time with this bacterial infection. If you read my post I said "typically" I did not say "always 100% I was simply pointing out to the guy who was wondering about an UTI vs Clap. Yes of course the best way is always to get tested.
This would be an ideal fantasy for me.
Maybe VIP will make it come true.You could come close. My experience with my Mina / Lisa 3-some was they would re-glove me every time I switched between pussy entry. No problems with dual BBBJ, or when I was doing Lisa doggy and Mina was under me with my nutsack in her mouth, but they put on a new cover each time we switched girls and holes. I wondered why they brought in a whole box of raincoats! Haha!
Mr MuffMan
01-09-22, 15:21
I've seen Mina a few times at the Spring Valley location and after they got the new location, I've seen Mina multiple times. In fact 3 times this week! Think it's just how the vibe is so much nicer there and really liking just the one on one intimate sessions with her. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the threesomes at Spring Valley but just been enjoying the one on one time with Mina and it just gets better every visit. Does this mean I have an addiction? Do I need help? LOL.
I say you have excellent taste. Mina is probably one of the best GFE experience at any AMP right now. She has a banging body, give the most sensuous kisses, sexy as hell and her service is top notched. I too like the 3-some foreplay and previews, but getting an uninterrupted time with Mina is unmatched. I guess I too am an addict. LOL.I've seen Mina about 10 times now (and I'm getting ready to go to see her again right now haha) - so I guess you could say I'm addicted as well LOL. We have good taste fellas!! Shhhh. Keep it on the down-low, then we can just share her between the three of us LOL.
Mr MuffMan.
Beerman1982
01-09-22, 15:47
Had a bit of down time, so visit to VIP SV. Made an appointment but arrived early. Greeted by CoCo. Put in the room and waited 20 minutes. JoJo comes in. No line up. JoJo is a very playful (fun kind) young lady. You know what goes on so skip the details. Good experience overall. On the way out, I'm given a card with a number to call for VIP 2. Saw KiKi. Liked what I saw. Will be back.
Beerman1982
01-09-22, 16:00
Texted the trusted number to check out the new location. Quick reply with Mina and KiKi working. Sign me up. Greeted by Mina at the door as she says, 'I'll be taking care of you tonight. ' Waited until one of you were finishing up. Then comes in KiKi. Hmm. Switch? Didn't mind since I had plans to see KiKi anyway. Mina is more of your GND look and KiKi is PYT look. Love both. While 'exercising' with KiKi, Mina comes in to play. Read one of the earlier posts and you can imagine what went on. Mina is definitely more experienced, skilled and sensual than the two others I've seen (JoJo and KiKi). JoJo is right behind Mina. If tapping a PYT is on your TDL, got to try KiKi. Fantastic experience all around. Best AMP experience by far. For those worried, just go to SV once and get verified. Then go to the second location and have a great time. EZPZ.
PenguinsAndieg
01-10-22, 14:50
First off I am an infectious disease physician so I can promise you nobody knows more about this than me. I see patients all the time with this bacterial infection. If you read my post I said "typically" I did not say "always 100% I was simply pointing out to the guy who was wondering about an UTI vs Clap. Yes of course the best way is always to get tested.I appreciated the words of advice. Thanks Dude!
Results came back favorable! I think the timing of it all was too perfect and made me paranoid.
Circling back your original post about DATY though. Chlamydia testing is only done through a urine sample, so if one's throat gets infected, it wouldn't show up on a urine sample right? Are throat infections not common, is that why they don't test?
The DudeInSd
01-10-22, 17:54
I appreciated the words of advice. Thanks Dude!
Results came back favorable! I think the timing of it all was too perfect and made me paranoid.
Circling back your original post about DATY though. Chlamydia testing is only done through a urine sample, so if one's throat gets infected, it wouldn't show up on a urine sample right? Are throat infections not common, is that why they don't test?Awesome man to hear that your tests came back favorably.
According to the Centers for Disease Control.
Chlamydia is a sexually transmitted infection that is caused by the bacteria chlamydia trachomatis. Chlamydia is the most widely reported STD in the world and is the second most common STD second to HPV.
Oral chlamydia is not as common as genital chlamydia. You are most likely to be diagnosed with chlamydia of the mouth and / or throat if you have oral sex with someone who is carrying the disease. Conversely, if you receive oral sex from someone who is carrying chlamydia in the mouth or throat, you are at high risk for developing genital chlamydia.
Chlamydia is passed through intimate sexual contact. While the disease is most commonly transmitted through penetrative anal or vaginal sex, it may also be passed through oral sex. Generally speaking, the bacteria chlamydia trachomatis is passed through bodily fluids and can infect the cervix, rectum, eyes, throat, mouth, and male urethra.
It is often misunderstood that you cannot contract chlamydia unless infected bodily fluids make contact with a partner's genitals. However, it possible to contract chlamydia in sex that results in a "dry orgasm", or sex that does not involve ejaculation.
Hope this helps.
This is why I don't understand why there are girls out there doing BBBJ and guys receiving them but then comment or think that they should avoid BBFS providers because they are "too dangerous".
I was not aware of the details you provided about chlamydia. That does make me feel better 'cause if the risks of oral is the same as BBFS, I'll go for bare all the way. Hehe!
Awesome man to hear that your tests came back favorably.
According to the Centers for Disease Control.
Chlamydia is a sexually transmitted infection that is caused by the bacteria chlamydia trachomatis. Chlamydia is the most widely reported STD in the world and is the second most common STD second to HPV.
Oral chlamydia is not as common as genital chlamydia. You are most likely to be diagnosed with chlamydia of the mouth and / or throat if you have oral sex with someone who is carrying the disease. Conversely, if you receive oral sex from someone who is carrying chlamydia in the mouth or throat, you are at high risk for developing genital chlamydia.
Chlamydia is passed through intimate sexual contact. While the disease is most commonly transmitted through penetrative anal or vaginal sex, it may also be passed through oral sex. Generally speaking, the bacteria chlamydia trachomatis is passed through bodily fluids and can infect the cervix, rectum, eyes, throat, mouth, and male urethra.
It is often misunderstood that you cannot contract chlamydia unless infected bodily fluids make contact with a partner's genitals. However, it possible to contract chlamydia in sex that results in a "dry orgasm", or sex that does not involve ejaculation.
Hope this helps.
This is why I don't understand why there are girls out there doing BBBJ and guys receiving them but then comment or think that they should avoid BBFS providers because they are "too dangerous".
ADwightSchrute
01-10-22, 19:52
Thank you sir. It's always better to be informed with some knowledge and it's up to the person to decide how they take that information and use it.
Awesome man to hear that your tests came back favorably.
According to the Centers for Disease Control.
Chlamydia is a sexually transmitted infection that is caused by the bacteria chlamydia trachomatis. Chlamydia is the most widely reported STD in the world and is the second most common STD second to HPV.
Oral chlamydia is not as common as genital chlamydia. You are most likely to be diagnosed with chlamydia of the mouth and / or throat if you have oral sex with someone who is carrying the disease. Conversely, if you receive oral sex from someone who is carrying chlamydia in the mouth or throat, you are at high risk for developing genital chlamydia.
Chlamydia is passed through intimate sexual contact. While the disease is most commonly transmitted through penetrative anal or vaginal sex, it may also be passed through oral sex. Generally speaking, the bacteria chlamydia trachomatis is passed through bodily fluids and can infect the cervix, rectum, eyes, throat, mouth, and male urethra.
It is often misunderstood that you cannot contract chlamydia unless infected bodily fluids make contact with a partner's genitals. However, it possible to contract chlamydia in sex that results in a "dry orgasm", or sex that does not involve ejaculation.
Hope this helps.
This is why I don't understand why there are girls out there doing BBBJ and guys receiving them but then comment or think that they should avoid BBFS providers because they are "too dangerous".
The DudeInSd
01-10-22, 23:59
Thank you sir. It's always better to be informed with some knowledge and it's up to the person to decide how they take that information and use it.Despite my 12 years of school and 15 years of practice, we still get the popcorn gallery making their comments.
You're welcome. Stay safe out there.
Cheers.
Like many of you boys, I've experienced the charms of most of the lady's at VIP. All Asian beauties that speak English and provide a GFE if not more, especially when they first opened. Stories of police visits don't normally deter me from any spas as they usually target the spa and girls as opposed to the John's, but in the case of the last police visit to VIP a couple of John's were ticketed under a volition code that is as broad as it is vague. Regardless what their court appearance verdict is, it's not something any of us want to deal with.
Their efforts to mitigate the damage are apparent on multiple forums, some clearly identifying themselves and some clearly shill reports, mostly from newly created members on the forums. I can't say I blame them and it's a testament to their understanding of the English language and their knowledge of the forums.
It's my understanding that VIP was busted before the current owners stepped in. I'm not sure how Spring Valley ordinances work, but in San Diego there's a 3-strike rule for spas that are ticketed (spa or girls) 3 x are mandatorily closed. I'm also not sure if this is per owner or per spa license, but VIP kept the spas name so I'm "assuming" the license was transferred to the new owners. The license is generally part of the key costs when acquiring a spa, because it saves the new owners the hassles of applying for the business license and other city requirements associated with a massage business. Eg Registering with the police department. That said, they may now have 2-strikes at the SV location.
My advice to VIP is to install a locked foyer at all their locations and cameras with monitors viewable from all their rooms. In the grand scheme of things, it's a minimal investment and will make them and their guests feel safer.
RChangDatyKing
01-24-22, 19:10
Like many of you boys, I've experienced the charms of most of the lady's at VIP. All Asian beauties that speak English and provide a GFE if not more, especially when they first opened. Stories of police visits don't normally deter me from any spas as they usually target the spa and girls as opposed to the John's, but in the case of the last police visit to VIP a couple of John's were ticketed under a volition code that is as broad as it is vague. Regardless what their court appearance verdict is, it's not something any of us want to deal with.
Their efforts to mitigate the damage are apparent on multiple forums, some clearly identifying themselves and some clearly shill reports, mostly from newly created members on the forums. I can't say I blame them and it's a testament to their understanding of the English language and their knowledge of the forums.
It's my understanding that VIP was busted before the current owners stepped in. I'm not sure how Spring Valley ordinances work, but in San Diego there's a 3-strike rule for spas that are ticketed (spa or girls) 3 x are mandatorily closed. I'm also not sure if this is per owner or per spa license, but VIP kept the spas name so I'm "assuming" the license was transferred to the new owners. The license is generally part of the key costs when acquiring a spa, because it saves the new owners the hassles of applying for the business license and other city requirements associated with a massage business. Eg Registering with the police department. That said, they may now have 2-strikes at the SV location.
My advice to VIP is to install a locked foyer at all their locations and cameras with monitors viewable from all their rooms. In the grand scheme of things, it's a minimal investment and will make them and their guests feel safer.My opinion with AMPs and security.
I agree with you that LEO don't usually target Johns when they visit massage parlors. Of course if they see you doing the deed that will / may be a different story. I don't know the circumstances of why the 2 guys were cited at VIP and I'm not going to make guesses or assumptions what the reasons were. But in my almost 15 plus years of mongering and 10 plus at AMPs; I've been there when many AMPs were visited by police and I was either told to stay in the room, or I can leave.
I have been to VIP more than a dozen times since the change in ownership and never did I feel afraid because they were visited by LEO. I think AMPs (VIP included) are the safest places to hobby. We are going to a legally operated business for a massage. I would be more concerned when LEO is visiting one of the buildings on Camino Del Rio or in Point Loma, or one of the AAMPs because they will most likely have a warrant to enter those premises and will be looking for evidence to use in court. It would be hard to tell LEO I'm there for a massage at an AAMP.
It's interesting there's only talks about VIP and security when other Spas also were visited by LEO in recent months but there were no mention of those visits. I know Smile was visited shortly after VIP had their visit and I believed some of the girls received tickets. LEO can visit any AMPs at anytime, not just VIP.
You mentioned the 3 strikes rule. Did you know that Flanders has already been ticketed 3 times already? Yet they are still operating. No Johns / customers has ever been ticketed. I know this because these girls (hundreds of members) talk on Weechat about places that have been visited my police, places that have been robbed, etc. I don't know what all the rules are and I'm not going to guess. Again it goes back to my earlier comments- AMPs are safe to visit because they are a legal business and we are going there for a massage.
With regards to locks, cameras, etc. I actually prefer the simple door that VIP-SV, 108, and 7 has. I don't care for the heavy security gate doors. Yes, I like the camera monitors in the business so they can see who's entering the facility. I don't care for the large monitors in the rooms, but rather I like the mobile ones the girls download on a handheld.
You said you've seen most of the lovely ladies at VIP. I'm assuming the SV location? Have you been to their new location because it does have the security door, cameras, etc. If you prefer discreet then VIP2 offers that. I feel safe going to all the AMPs.
DoctorOlds
01-24-22, 19:10
Like many of you boys, I've experienced the charms of most of the lady's at VIP. All Asian beauties that speak English and provide a GFE if not more, especially when they first opened. Stories of police visits don't normally deter me from any spas as they usually target the spa and girls as opposed to the John's, but in the case of the last police visit to VIP a couple of John's were ticketed under a volition code that is as broad as it is vague. Regardless what their court appearance verdict is, it's not something any of us want to deal with.
Their efforts to mitigate the damage are apparent on multiple forums, some clearly identifying themselves and some clearly shill reports, mostly from newly created members on the forums. I can't say I blame them and it's a testament to their understanding of the English language and their knowledge of the forums.
It's my understanding that VIP was busted before the current owners stepped in. I'm not sure how Spring Valley ordinances work, but in San Diego there's a 3-strike rule for spas that are ticketed (spa or girls) 3 x are mandatorily closed. I'm also not sure if this is per owner or per spa license, but VIP kept the spas name so I'm "assuming" the license was transferred to the new owners. The license is generally part of the key costs when acquiring a spa, because it saves the new owners the hassles of applying for the business license and other city requirements associated with a massage business. Eg Registering with the police department. That said, they may now have 2-strikes at the SV location.
My advice to VIP is to install a locked foyer at all their locations and cameras with monitors viewable from all their rooms. In the grand scheme of things, it's a minimal investment and will make them and their guests feel safer.Try not to take this the wrong way, but based on your suggestion, I have trouble believing you've visited these establishments. I mean, I have and they already have what you've suggested. Just sayin.
Try not to take this the wrong way, but based on your suggestion, I have trouble believing you've visited these establishments. I mean, I have and they already have what you've suggested. Just sayin.No worries Doc, I have not been there since the last police visit so this is good to hear. 108 and smile have also recently implemented similar.
Like many of you boys, I've experienced the charms of most of the lady's at VIP. All Asian beauties that speak English and provide a GFE if not more, especially when they first opened. Stories of police visits don't normally deter me from any spas as they usually target the spa and girls as opposed to the John's, but in the case of the last police visit to VIP a couple of John's were ticketed under a volition code that is as broad as it is vague. Regardless what their court appearance verdict is, it's not something any of us want to deal with.
Their efforts to mitigate the damage are apparent on multiple forums, some clearly identifying themselves and some clearly shill reports, mostly from newly created members on the forums. I can't say I blame them and it's a testament to their understanding of the English language and their knowledge of the forums.
It's my understanding that VIP was busted before the current owners stepped in. I'm not sure how Spring Valley ordinances work, but in San Diego there's a 3-strike rule for spas that are ticketed (spa or girls) 3 x are mandatorily closed. I'm also not sure if this is per owner or per spa license, but VIP kept the spas name so I'm "assuming" the license was transferred to the new owners. The license is generally part of the key costs when acquiring a spa, because it saves the new owners the hassles of applying for the business license and other city requirements associated with a massage business. Eg Registering with the police department. That said, they may now have 2-strikes at the SV location.
My advice to VIP is to install a locked foyer at all their locations and cameras with monitors viewable from all their rooms. In the grand scheme of things, it's a minimal investment and will make them and their guests feel safer.My understanding is the ladies had their credentials checked and all of them had licenses, so there was no violations this last visit, so no strike (if that is even a thing). Those security doors do nothing to dissuade LE from doing what they want to do when they show up. Are you hoping you can pull-out and get dressed before they make it through the door is that it? You think it would save your ass if you did. The last two gentleman got tickets and were fully dressed, one in the lobby.
When LE bursted into the room I was in with CiCi. The cops identified themselves and said everyone get dressed. Thereafter, I asked the prick officer if I was under arrest and if not, I would like to leave and if yes, I will exercise my right to remain silent. He told me to sit down as he was doing an investigation. I held up my cellphone and told him that I was recording everything so there would be no ambiguities. He turned around and yelled to the other officers that they were being recorded and yelled at me to put down my cellphone. That pissed them off and they put me against the wall, roughed me up, handcuffed me and put me in the patrol car. Eventually, one plain cloths officer told me he was from the SDPD and was investigating human trafficking. To gain spa access it is always the same party line, investigating claims of reported prostitution and human trafficking. Eventually, I was released and written a citation.
Several hours after that event I wrote a report here for the purpose of warning other members. Instead of thanks I got only skeptical replies. Fair enough as we are all anonymous handles with unknown motives. I have even offered to send a copy of my ticket to the RCDatyKing as he is a credible contributor here and I wanted to proof that the event actually occurred. While he says he believes me to this date I believe that he remains somewhat skeptical.
IMHO both a security door and locks on the room doors would have been a plus. From talking to the girls later that evening I can confirm that LE did check their credentials and asked them if they were being trafficked. They showed their credentials to work, told the cops they were independent worker and free to come and go as they please. I saw one other ticket that was being written and assume that it was to another customer. It amazes me to read the hear say accounts of this event that occurred that day from guys who are acting like they are in the know.
My understanding is the ladies had their credentials checked and all of them had licenses, so there was no violations this last visit, so no strike (if that is even a thing). Those security doors do nothing to dissuade LE from doing what they want to do when they show up. Are you hoping you can pull-out and get dressed before they make it through the door is that it? You think it would save your ass if you did. The last two gentleman got tickets and were fully dressed, one in the lobby.First of all, I'm all about supporting these spas and these working girls. I have great VIP stories to share as well, but in case you didn't notice, there are many fans of VIP writing short novels that pretty much sum up the awesomeness of the girls that work here. At least when they initially opened. Now recent reports makes them sound like they're settling into their groove, but still without a doubt one of the top AMPs in the San Diego area.
Your understanding of the LE visit is correct and I'm not arguing those facts. I'm pointing out the fact that this is the first spa I've heard of where the girls weren't ticketed for anything, but the John's were. If LE wanted to, there are plenty of violations they could find. The girls dress and spa ordinances in accordance with the city spa license are rules anyone can look up and that other spas have been ticketed for. You may be correct that the John's were ticketed so no additional strikes against this spa. Good point!
Like locking your car or house, it's not going to stop a determined thief, but a few obstacles will sway most LE to look for easier targets and at the very least slow them down and give warning to those whom maybe in precarious positions. Anyways, it's fun to watch the monitors and make fun of the John's coming in which is what I enjoy doing with the girls.
Good on you for defending this spa. I'm sure it's good for some brownie points with the ladies that work here.
I'm fully aware of the girls the spas and girls that were ticketed that you mention. Note that I didn't bring up the VIP LE issue though I was also aware from the WeChat chatter amongst these girls. I'm simply commenting after the fact for their benefit as well as us mongers. I've also been present during an LE raid, more times than I care to admit, being told to simply wait in the room and that I wasn't in trouble.
Also note that after the VIP LE story went public, several well known spas now have the monitors in all their rooms. A little extra peace of mind for me and as I've mentioned before, fun to be had with the girls at the John's expense.
I've PM'd you additional details[Deleted by Admin].
My opinion with AMPs and security.
I agree with you that LEO don't usually target Johns when they visit massage parlors. Of course if they see you doing the deed that will / may be a different story. I don't know the circumstances of why the 2 guys were cited at VIP and I'm not going to make guesses or assumptions what the reasons were. But in my almost 15 plus years of mongering and 10 plus at AMPs; I've been there when many AMPs were visited by police and I was either told to stay in the room, or I can leave.
RChangDatyKing
01-25-22, 09:53
When LE bursted into the room I was in with CiCi. The cops identified themselves and said everyone get dressed. Thereafter, I asked the prick officer if I was under arrest and if not, I would like to leave and if yes, I will exercise my right to remain silent. He told me to sit down as he was doing an investigation. I held up my cellphone and told him that I was recording everything so there would be no ambiguities. He turned around and yelled to the other officers that they were being recorded and yelled at me to put down my cellphone. That pissed them off and they put me against the wall, roughed me up, handcuffed me and put me in the patrol car. Eventually, one plain cloths officer told me he was from the SDPD and was investigating human trafficking. To gain spa access it is always the same party line, investigating claims of reported prostitution and human trafficking. Eventually, I was released and written a citation.
Several hours after that event I wrote a report here for the purpose of warning other members. Instead of thanks I got only skeptical replies. Fair enough as we are all anonymous handles with unknown motives. I have even offered to send a copy of my ticket to the RCDatyKing as he is a credible contributor here and I wanted to proof that the event actually occurred. While he says he believes me to this date I believe that he remains somewhat skeptical.
IMHO both a security door and locks on the room doors would have been a plus. From talking to the girls later that evening I can confirm that LE did check their credentials and asked them if they were being trafficked. They showed their credentials to work, told the cops they were independent worker and free to come and go as they please. I saw one other ticket that was being written and assume that it was to another customer. It amazes me to read the hear say accounts of this event that occurred that day from guys who are acting like they are in the know.Hey ZReel! Yes, I was skeptical at first because your initial post was vague. Ive just never heard of customers being cited before, as I’ve been at spas many times when LEO make their visits and Im simply told to wait in the room or leave. After some PM exchanges with you I believed you were cited. I declined having you send me a copy of the citation because it's your "story" and accounts of the event to tell.
Just like what you stated- I don't want to post wrong information and think I'm one of those guys acting I'm in the know of what occurred that day.
DeeeezNutss
01-25-22, 20:31
Just saw Mina today and as always, such an amazing session. Is it bad that I'm going to be sad and heartbroken when she leaves VIP / SD? Have I fallen? LMAO. For reals though, Mina has been the best I've seen at an AMP, don't know if I'll find another unless you guys have suggestions??
RChangDatyKing
01-25-22, 21:39
Just saw Mina today and as always, such an amazing session. Is it bad that I'm going to be sad and heartbroken when she leaves VIP / SD? Have I fallen? LMAO. For reals though, Mina has been the best I've seen at an AMP, don't know if I'll find another unless you guys have suggestions??Mina is definitely First Class. Her beauty, sensuality, mannerisms. And of course her kisses are so inviting.
I think there will be many heartbroken mongers when she leaves. We only hope she stays longer or makes more debut visits.
DeeeezNutss
01-25-22, 21:50
Totally agree with you RChangDatyKing! Her services are pretty up there with the Independent ladies besides the fact that's in an AMP with a massage table instead of a nice bed. She should go solo!
Mina is definitely First Class. Her beauty, sensuality, mannerisms. And of course her kisses are so inviting.
I think there will be many heartbroken mongers when she leaves. We only hope she stays longer or makes more debut visits.
Mr MuffMan
01-25-22, 23:19
Just saw Mina today and as always, such an amazing session. Is it bad that I'm going to be sad and heartbroken when she leaves VIP / SD? Have I fallen? LMAO. For reals though, Mina has been the best I've seen at an AMP, don't know if I'll find another unless you guys have suggestions??
Mina is definitely First Class. Her beauty, sensuality, mannerisms. And of course her kisses are so inviting.
I think there will be many heartbroken mongers when she leaves. We only hope she stays longer or makes more debut visits.I'm right there with you fellas. Mina has become my ATF of all time LOL. I see her at least twice a week (have seen her about 20 times now) and we've struck up a nice little friendship where we stay in touch and communicate between sessions. We'll be alright though guys, as she plans to return in March. If I get a specific date I'll be sure to share it here. She also told me she believes Lisa will be returning in March as well! Mina is definitely my ATF, and I would say Lisa is my second ATF. Having these two amazing superstars is what set this place apart from the rest, as they're both truly special providers. It will be interesting to see how they'll fare without these two for the next month or so. Wouldn't surprise me, if business slows, to see them called back up sooner. Just saying.
Mr MuffMan.
DeeeezNutss
01-26-22, 14:32
Yeah she is surely addicting. Guess this gives us time to save up / recoup until they return. As well as gives her time to rest from all us mongers that she saw. Can't imagine on how many she sees in a day but still keeps a beautiful smile.
I'm right there with you fellas. Mina has become my ATF of all time LOL. I see her at least twice a week (have seen her about 20 times now) and we've struck up a nice little friendship where we stay in touch and communicate between sessions. We'll be alright though guys, as she plans to return in March. If I get a specific date I'll be sure to share it here. She also told me she believes Lisa will be returning in March as well! Mina is definitely my ATF, and I would say Lisa is my second ATF. Having these two amazing superstars is what set this place apart from the rest, as they're both truly special providers. It will be interesting to see how they'll fare without these two for the next month or so. Wouldn't surprise me, if business slows, to see them called back up sooner. Just saying.
Mr MuffMan.
MaximusKahn
01-27-22, 10:37
Cameras in the lobby, and locked doors won't stop LE if they want in, but it will give you a second to avoid being caught fully in the act which may be enough to keep you from being sited or arrested.
The best thing you can do if confronted with LE in a compromising position is to be cooperative and silent. And if you can muster it respectful. You have the right to be silent, arrested or not, be wise enough to exercise that right. Come across like an attorney and you'll find you have a fool for a client. As my Detective Uncle told me about being detained by a LEO, "do as you are told and keep your mouth shut". Which has proven to be very good advice for me.
If you want to "record" LE, just do it. When you are on the verge of being in trouble it's not wise to antagonize the guys who get to choose if you are going to be in trouble or not. I'd rather be quietly sitting in the lobby than cuffed and sitting in the back of a cruiser.
Sorry this unique situation fell on you, but thanks for sharing it with the forum.
When LE bursted into the room I was in with CiCi. The cops identified themselves and said everyone get dressed. Thereafter, I asked the prick officer if I was under arrest and if not, I would like to leave and if yes, I will exercise my right to remain silent. He told me to sit down as he was doing an investigation. I held up my cellphone and told him that I was recording everything so there would be no ambiguities. He turned around and yelled to the other officers that they were being recorded and yelled at me to put down my cellphone. That pissed them off and they put me against the wall, roughed me up, handcuffed me and put me in the patrol car. Eventually, one plain cloths officer told me he was from the SDPD and was investigating human trafficking. To gain spa access it is always the same party line, investigating claims of reported prostitution and human trafficking. Eventually, I was released and written a citation.
Several hours after that event I wrote a report here for the purpose of warning other members. Instead of thanks I got only skeptical replies. Fair enough as we are all anonymous handles with unknown motives. I have even offered to send a copy of my ticket to the RCDatyKing as he is a credible contributor here and I wanted to proof that the event actually occurred. While he says he believes me to this date I believe that he remains somewhat skeptical.
IMHO both a security door and locks on the room doors would have been a plus. From talking to the girls later that evening I can confirm that LE did check their credentials and asked them if they were being trafficked. They showed their credentials to work, told the cops they were independent worker and free to come and go as they please. I saw one other ticket that was being written and assume that it was to another customer. It amazes me to read the hear say accounts of this event that occurred that day from guys who are acting like they are in the know.
UtahLedgend2
01-27-22, 11:00
You shared and if they don't believe you it's fine. Let them find out for themselves!
When LE bursted into the room I was in with CiCi. The cops identified themselves and said everyone get dressed. Thereafter, I asked the prick officer if I was under arrest and if not, I would like to leave and if yes, I will exercise my right to remain silent. He told me to sit down as he was doing an investigation. I held up my cellphone and told him that I was recording everything so there would be no ambiguities. He turned around and yelled to the other officers that they were being recorded and yelled at me to put down my cellphone. That pissed them off and they put me against the wall, roughed me up, handcuffed me and put me in the patrol car. Eventually, one plain cloths officer told me he was from the SDPD and was investigating human trafficking. To gain spa access it is always the same party line, investigating claims of reported prostitution and human trafficking. Eventually, I was released and written a citation.
Several hours after that event I wrote a report here for the purpose of warning other members. Instead of thanks I got only skeptical replies. Fair enough as we are all anonymous handles with unknown motives. I have even offered to send a copy of my ticket to the RCDatyKing as he is a credible contributor here and I wanted to proof that the event actually occurred. While he says he believes me to this date I believe that he remains somewhat skeptical.
IMHO both a security door and locks on the room doors would have been a plus. From talking to the girls later that evening I can confirm that LE did check their credentials and asked them if they were being trafficked. They showed their credentials to work, told the cops they were independent worker and free to come and go as they please. I saw one other ticket that was being written and assume that it was to another customer. It amazes me to read the hear say accounts of this event that occurred that day from guys who are acting like they are in the know.
I've been getting PM's saying locked doors / gates or monitors do nothing so I shared these stories.
Security gates don't stop undercover, but do stop police raids of which I've been present at more than I care to admit. On one police raid, several officers were at a locked gate yelling to open up, they were the police. I was actually in fuck heaven when we heard the commotion and a look at the monitors confirmed our fears. We had enough time to put our clothes back on and quickly hide or relocate any obvious evidence. I was frisked and had condoms and a large amount of cash, but there is no crime for that and the condoms were in their sealed packaging. On that particular encounter I was fortunate to be going at it bare, but if I had to, I'd swallow a condom. Hehe!
Different city, but one of my buddies was present at a spa police raid where there was no locking gate or monitors. So the police charged in, immediately opening all the doors and literally catching my homie with his pants down. He was arrested along with the girl. Jail, bail, divorce, disaster and all things feared by mongers encountering LE at a spa ensued.
Anyways, I'm sure you all can now understand my appreciation for locked gates and monitors after those incidents.
Cameras in the lobby, and locked doors won't stop LE if they want in, but it will give you a second to avoid being caught fully in the act which may be enough to keep you from being sited or arrested.
The best thing you can do if confronted with LE in a compromising position is to be cooperative and silent. And if you can muster it respectful. You have the right to be silent, arrested or not, be wise enough to exercise that right. Come across like an attorney and you'll find you have a fool for a client. As my Detective Uncle told me about being detained by a LEO, "do as you are told and keep your mouth shut". Which has proven to be very good advice for me.
If you want to "record" LE, just do it. When you are on the verge of being in trouble it's not wise to antagonize the guys who get to choose if you are going to be in trouble or not. I'd rather be quietly sitting in the lobby than cuffed and sitting in the back of a cruiser.
Sorry this unique situation fell on you, but thanks for sharing it with the forum.
Just see independent providers and you will never have to worry about cops.
Just see independent providers and you will never have to worry about cops.When you don't call ahead for reservations, sometimes you have to hit the drive thru!
I agree with your point though.
The DudeInSd
02-17-22, 00:03
I am so tired of spending $1,500 a week and enjoying myself with a different providers and contributing and leaving reviews answering all the questions. I get 20 private messages a week people asking questions, none of them ever contribute. People want to know the difference between Petra, Bora, Cris, Suzette, Ash, etc. Meanwhile they are not even approved with the agencies, they are just asking stupid f* questions. They are dead broke they live in a fantasy world, can't afford to go get a hand job at a spa. People please quit filling up my inbox with private messages when you have no intentions of ever going to see anybody anyways.
On another note thank you very much to the people that actually spend their hard-earned money and see people like Ryan 1969 and RChang and several others.
If you do not leave reviews, do not spend money, please stop sending me private messages.
Captain Solo
02-17-22, 11:59
Is your name in this famous list?
https://patch.com/california/murrieta/prostitution-sting-arrests-temecula-murrieta-lake-elsinore
Riverside County, CA — A statewide sting operation last week targeting online prostitution netted hundreds of arrests across California, including 38 Riverside County residents — nine of them from the cities of Lake Elsinore, Menifee, Murrieta and Temecula.
The four-day-long "Operation Reclaim & Rebuild" was conducted Feb. 7-10 in Riverside County and involved local law enforcement agencies from across the region along with federal investigators from the USA Department of Homeland Security. The local crackdown coincided with Operation Reclaim & Rebuild stings across the state.
During the Riverside County law enforcement effort, task force members arrested 31 males and seven females for misdemeanor solicitation of prostitution. See the full list of names here.
Mr MuffMan
02-17-22, 13:49
I am so tired of spending $1,500 a week and enjoying myself with a different providers and contributing and leaving reviews answering all the questions. I get 20 private messages a week people asking questions, none of them ever contribute. People want to know the difference between Petra, Bora, Cris, Suzette, Ash, etc. Meanwhile they are not even approved with the agencies, they are just asking stupid f* questions. They are dead broke they live in a fantasy world, can't afford to go get a hand job at a spa. People please quit filling up my inbox with private messages when you have no intentions of ever going to see anybody anyways.
On another note thank you very much to the people that actually spend their hard-earned money and see people like Ryan 1969 and RChang and several others.
If you do not leave reviews, do not spend money, please stop sending me private messages.I'm having the same experience and I haven't posted anywhere near the amount of reviews that you, and the others you mentioned have. It has me questioning if I even want to continue spending my time posting and sharing information on this site. I want to give back to the contributing members and share info, as that's what this site is about. As well as help the girls who provide good service, as they deserve it. But I'm tired of all the no posters coming out of the woodwork looking for freebies. I wish there was a way we could block users on this site, or something where you would need a certain amount of posts before being able to send a PM. It's both annoying and discouraging.
Mr MuffMan.
RChangDatyKing
02-17-22, 22:31
I'm having the same experience and I haven't posted anywhere near the amount of reviews that you, and the others you mentioned have. It has me questioning if I even want to continue spending my time posting and sharing information on this site. I want to give back to the contributing members and share info, as that's what this site is about. As well as help the girls who provide good service, as they deserve it. But I'm tired of all the no posters coming out of the woodwork looking for freebies. I wish there was a way we could block users on this site, or something where you would need a certain amount of posts before being able to send a PM. It's both annoying and discouraging.
Mr MuffMan.It's not just from "newbies" but Senior members as well that are asking me for specifics details / information. Things like anything more than what's in my reviews / posts; etc. I see lots of independents that clearly advertise No FS don't ask. Guys continue to ask what more has been offered? People need to understand whatever I respond back with may probably be a fraction of the service they might receive as a new customer because I've developed chemistry and trust with these ladies with many repeat visits so the service for me will/might be better. It's YMMV with all providers. I am starting to see guys post YMMV in many of their reviews now I believed because guys are asking stupid ass questions.
There is an Ignore feature you can set if you don't want anymore questions from a certain monger. Go to their profile and put them on your ignore list. I've done that with many already.
ADwightSchrute
02-18-22, 06:12
With that idea of post count it might encourage those users to either post useless information. But that's a great starting idea. Maybe something in that realm of their first review post would be in a designated thread. So other users like you guys can see that they have contributed to the community. Maybe also have a way to verify their review? Ever since my friend shows me this site and reading your guys reviews my AMP experiences have been 100% better. Thank you gentleman for your hard work and diligence.
I'm having the same experience and I haven't posted anywhere near the amount of reviews that you, and the others you mentioned have. It has me questioning if I even want to continue spending my time posting and sharing information on this site. I want to give back to then contributing members and share info, as that's what this site is about. As well as help the girls who provide good service, as they deserve it. But I'm tired of all the no posters coming out of the woodwork looking for freebies. I wish there was a way we could block users on this site, or something where you would need a certain amount of posts before being able to send a PM. It's both annoying and discouraging.
Mr MuffMan.
I am so tired of spending $1,500 a week and enjoying myself with a different providers and contributing and leaving reviews answering all the questions. I get 20 private messages a week people asking questions, none of them ever contribute. People want to know the difference between Petra, Bora, Cris, Suzette, Ash, etc. Meanwhile they are not even approved with the agencies, they are just asking stupid f* questions. They are dead broke they live in a fantasy world, can't afford to go get a hand job at a spa. People please quit filling up my inbox with private messages when you have no intentions of ever going to see anybody anyways.
On another note thank you very much to the people that actually spend their hard-earned money and see people like Ryan 1969 and RChang and several others.
If you do not leave reviews, do not spend money, please stop sending me private messages.Thanks for your contributions!
The DudeInSd
02-18-22, 21:02
Thanks for your contributions!Welcome DRaj.
Sir Bishop
02-18-22, 21:15
This thread started with a statement on how much is spent and how many times a week he visits ladies. His complaint seems to be centered around guys asking him for info. Now I get it that someone may send me a private PM, regardless of level, about info beyond what is put in my post. It's sent private for whatever reason. I've been in this hobby way too friggin long to not have done or "been there" in these situations. Ok, I may send a quick pm to another guy because I was looking a for a quick answer instead of using the search function. Guilty! But I also will do those deep dive researches finding info most of the public does have have access to or know about. It's the nature of my business to know where to find it.
And I will never ever upon my dead ancestors bones tell you how much I spend on whoring. That's just boasting to boost your own ego and wagon. Nope. I won't tell you.
I will answer PMs from guys that have contributed a review or two. If you have only asked questions, lurk and generally are like a vulture scavenging for info. You won't get it from me.
As for this thread? Yup, it's in the right forum. 🤣
I'm having the same experience and I haven't posted anywhere near the amount of reviews that you, and the others you mentioned have. It has me questioning if I even want to continue spending my time posting and sharing information on this site. I want to give back to the contributing members and share info, as that's what this site is about. As well as help the girls who provide good service, as they deserve it. But I'm tired of all the no posters coming out of the woodwork looking for freebies. I wish there was a way we could block users on this site, or something where you would need a certain amount of posts before being able to send a PM. It's both annoying and discouraging.
Mr MuffMan.
It's not just from "newbies" but Senior members as well that are asking me for specifics details / information. Things like anything more than what's in my reviews / posts; etc. I see lots of independents that clearly advertise No FS don't ask. Guys continue to ask what more has been offered? People need to understand whatever I respond back with may probably be a fraction of the service they might receive as a new customer because I've developed chemistry and trust with these ladies with many repeat visits so the service for me will/might be better. It's YMMV with all providers. I am starting to see guys post YMMV in many of their reviews now I believed because guys are asking stupid ass questions.
There is an Ignore feature you can set if you don't want anymore questions from a certain monger. Go to their profile and put them on your ignore list. I've done that with many already.
It's not just from "newbies" but Senior members as well that are asking me for specifics details / information. Things like anything more than what's in my reviews / posts; etc. I see lots of independents that clearly advertise No FS don't ask. Guys continue to ask what more has been offered? People need to understand whatever I respond back with may probably be a fraction of the service they might receive as a new customer because I've developed chemistry and trust with these ladies with many repeat visits so the service for me will/might be better. It's YMMV with all providers. I am starting to see guys post YMMV in many of their reviews now I believed because guys are asking stupid ass questions.
There is an Ignore feature you can set if you don't want anymore questions from a certain monger. Go to their profile and put them on your ignore list. I've done that with many already.It's honestly becoming a pain in the ass for me because I have message threads that I do keep with a few other senior members here, but have to constantly delete all the bullshit. People have 10-20 or even more posts and every single one is asking for information. And yes you are correct now I just YMMV everything just to not deal with message spam. This one guy who I was generous enough to offer some info, asked if I can text the provider and vouch for him so he can have a fbsm+ instead of standard fbsm. I told him to fuck off. Thanks to all senior members who contribute and TOFTT. I've been off the mongering lately so haven't seen much except talent that's been repeatedly mentioned.
GfEnthusiast
02-19-22, 11:40
It's honestly becoming a pain in the ass for me because I have message threads that I do keep with a few other senior members here, but have to constantly delete all the bullshit. People have 10-20 or even more posts and every single one is asking for information. And yes you are correct now I just YMMV everything just to not deal with message spam. This one guy who I was generous enough to offer some info, asked if I can text the provider and vouch for him so he can have a fbsm+ instead of standard fbsm. I told him to fuck off. Thanks to all senior members who contribute and TOFTT. I've been off the mongering lately so haven't seen much except talent that's been repeatedly mentioned.Maybe I get less questions than you guys but the way I see it, that's what this site is all about. Sharing info. I've had members send me 4-5 messages on a particular provider and if I know the answer I will reply. No big deal as far as I'm concerned. I ain't so busy that I can't answer. Personally, when I ask I try to keep it to no more than 2 messages but that's just me.
Maybe I get less questions than you guys but the way I see it, that's what this site is all about. Sharing info. I've had members send me 4-5 messages on a particular provider and if I know the answer I will reply. No big deal as far as I'm concerned. I ain't so busy that I can't answer. Personally, when I ask I try to keep it to no more than 2 messages but that's just me.Problem with this is the clich "It takes 1 to ruin it for everyone" comes to mind.
I was a regular with a tall, slim thick asian. I used see her every payday, where ever she was at (within reason) for about 2 years. Then she started not to host down where I am, and I didn't see anything from her and I just moved on. She returned and some gentlemen in this forum (you can probably search my posts anyway, not going to hide it at all) had questions about meeting her. Some gentlemen asked directly, and I gave the info willingly as I was new to the board and not knowing if I was being a total dick if I don't. Unfortunately, circumastances changed what she offered to me before. She stopped D / LFK, DATY, 69, and FOV / FIV. She always posted no GFE, but I was an exception. Come to find out, someone took it too far, and now she flat out doesn't offer it to anyone anymore. Period. Even me (as I've been seeing her since 2008 ish).
It's hypothetical, or just probably coincidence, that this happened a couple of days after I offered the info, and upset that I could've caused the change in service. But hey, you move on as best you can.
I'm just hesitant in giving ANY info up when asked directly, or will only just reaffirm what everyone else says about an escort / masseuse. Sometimes I will give up the ghost as it may within reason. But when there's more than enough info for one to read through posts, or just too lazy to do their own reasearch, I begin to question why do I have to offer my reasearch to someone not willing to do the same for me? Especially when some of this info is all subjective?
I dunno. Just my 2 cents on this particular topic.
*waiting for VIP2 to reopen* LOL.
SfoDavid67
02-19-22, 14:09
Is your name in this famous list?
https://patch.com/california/murrieta/prostitution-sting-arrests-temecula-murrieta-lake-elsinore
Riverside County, CA A statewide sting operation last week targeting online prostitution netted hundreds of arrests across California, including 38 Riverside County residents nine of them from the cities of Lake Elsinore, Menifee, Murrieta and Temecula.
The four-day-long "Operation Reclaim & Rebuild" was conducted Feb. 7-10 in Riverside County and involved local law enforcement agencies from across the region along with federal investigators from the USA Department of Homeland Security. The local crackdown coincided with Operation Reclaim & Rebuild stings across the state.
During the Riverside County law enforcement effort, task force members arrested 31 males and seven females for misdemeanor solicitation of prostitution. See the full list of names here.Stings are going on all over the country, they are not going away anytime. Most of the guys get the book thrown at them pretty hard, the girls often get charges dropped if they get help. I know in some areas the local PD actually get the girls to go to work for them, especially if they are well known and well reviewed to bring in their "trusted" clients.
Getting busted sucks, and it can and likely will completely destroy your life as you know it. So be very careful.
Problem with this is the clich "It takes 1 to ruin it for everyone" comes to mind.
I was a regular with a tall, slim thick asian. I used see her every payday, where ever she was at (within reason) for about 2 years. Then she started not to host down where I am, and I didn't see anything from her and I just moved on. She returned and some gentlemen in this forum (you can probably search my posts anyway, not going to hide it at all) had questions about meeting her. Some gentlemen asked directly, and I gave the info willingly as I was new to the board and not knowing if I was being a total dick if I don't. Unfortunately, circumastances changed what she offered to me before. She stopped D / LFK, DATY, 69, and FOV / FIV. She always posted no GFE, but I was an exception. Come to find out, someone took it too far, and now she flat out doesn't offer it to anyone anymore. Period. Even me (as I've been seeing her since 2008 ish).
It's hypothetical, or just probably coincidence, that this happened a couple of days after I offered the info, and upset that I could've caused the change in service. But hey, you move on as best you can.
I'm just hesitant in giving ANY info up when asked directly, or will only just reaffirm what everyone else says about an escort / masseuse. Sometimes I will give up the ghost as it may within reason. But when there's more than enough info for one to read through posts, or just too lazy to do their own reasearch, I begin to question why do I have to offer my reasearch to someone not willing to do the same for me? Especially when some of this info is all subjective?
I dunno. Just my 2 cents on this particular topic.
*waiting for VIP2 to reopen* LOL.I never ever ever ever talk about extras / off-menu stuff when messaged by newbies (under30-50 posts, very little intel offered, always asking for intel). At best, I'll cut and paste the menu a girl sends me. For more senior contributors, I'm happy to say something like, "there may be some extras available, but not sure if it's offered to everyone so YMMV".
RChangDatyKing
02-19-22, 14:46
Problem with this is the clich "It takes 1 to ruin it for everyone" comes to mind.
I was a regular with a tall, slim thick asian. I used see her every payday, where ever she was at (within reason) for about 2 years. Then she started not to host down where I am, and I didn't see anything from her and I just moved on. She returned and some gentlemen in this forum (you can probably search my posts anyway, not going to hide it at all) had questions about meeting her. Some gentlemen asked directly, and I gave the info willingly as I was new to the board and not knowing if I was being a total dick if I don't. Unfortunately, circumastances changed what she offered to me before. She stopped D / LFK, DATY, 69, and FOV / FIV. She always posted no GFE, but I was an exception. Come to find out, someone took it too far, and now she flat out doesn't offer it to anyone anymore. Period. Even me (as I've been seeing her since 2008 ish).
It's hypothetical, or just probably coincidence, that this happened a couple of days after I offered the info, and upset that I could've caused the change in service. But hey, you move on as best you can.
I'm just hesitant in giving ANY info up when asked directly, or will only just reaffirm what everyone else says about an escort / masseuse. Sometimes I will give up the ghost as it may within reason. But when there's more than enough info for one to read through posts, or just too lazy to do their own reasearch, I begin to question why do I have to offer my reasearch to someone not willing to do the same for me? Especially when some of this info is all subjective?
I dunno. Just my 2 cents on this particular topic.
*waiting for VIP2 to reopen* LOL.I've posted about a similar experience. The asshole was a Senior member who had been seeing some of the same girls I was regularly seeing. Because he and I had exchanged intel before I thought he understood what we discussed was between us. Anyways, he was seeing a provider and wanted more than just the FBSM but she never went beyond. During one of our intel exchanges I told him I got more offered from her. I knew she didn't offered this to anyone else because she had a SO. I gave some specific details because he inquired about them- outfit request, services offered, usual tip amount, etc. This yahoo then continues to make requests with this provider and when she told him she doesn't offer anything more to anyone he then showed her my PM to him talking about the outfits, services, exact tip amount, etc.
This is why I will not go into any real details of services offered by independents, masseuses at nonFS spas because there are Aholes that don't have hobbying etiquette.
Yes, I'll respond to any level members if they contribute or share intel with me. About a dozen of members I exchange intel with they have less than 10 posts. Their intel are solid so I trust them, but they know not to ask me about anything beyond XYZ. Or about BareFS because they understand YMMV. I will definitely put folks on my ignore list if they post shit, ask about bareFS in open forum when the girls have never been reviewed offering said service, or if they have or promote agendas.
MaximusKahn
02-20-22, 14:41
Any Nubie who thinks just because he knows a place, a name, and what you got, and thinks he's going to get what you got is not into reality. It's not likely anyone gets a special menu on a first visit, regardless of what you know about what someone else is getting.
Relationships take many factors to getting extras on the menu. Time, Tips, Chemistry, Attitude, and Attraction to names a few variables.
So its not Your Mileage May Vary, but more Your Mileage Will Vary.
The high mileage mongers are very generous with their posts, so the lazy, lurkers, and trolls should be grateful for what they get for free.
The questions that alway make me laugh.
What is the address? What did you tip? And lately someone asked, Where do you park?
Thank you to all the high mileage mongers who share so freely and generously.
The questions that alway make me laugh.
What is the address? Heavy laugh, I can't scroll half a page on RR w / o seeing an ad w / address and number listed. Highly suspect behavior.
DragonWolf
02-20-22, 23:23
when she told him she doesn't offer anything more to anyone he then showed her my PM to him talking about the outfits, services, exact tip amount, etc.Ooof. That's shady AF.
That's that "If I can't have none, you can't neither. " attitude that just ruins things for everyone.
RChangDatyKing
02-21-22, 03:06
Ooof. That's shady AF.
That's that "If I can't have none, you can't neither. " attitude that just ruins things for everyone.Yes it is. I used to post a lot more and included more details about nonFS spas and independents, but not anymore because yahoos like him. The guy haven't posted since. I think he changed or made a new handle, but whatever. I think there are guys with multiple handles because of how they posts or ask questions. Don't know why they want multiple handles, but whatever.
I'm still having fun and appreciate the guys I do and can share intel with and know it's between us.
DragonWolf
02-21-22, 16:29
Yes it is. I used to post a lot more and included more details about nonFS spas and independents, but not anymore because yahoos like him. The guy haven't posted since. I think he changed or made a new handle, but whatever. I think there are guys with multiple handles because of how they posts or ask questions. Don't know why they want multiple handles, but whatever.
I'm still having fun and appreciate the guys I do and can share intel with and know it's between us.I try to keep it simple. USASG / HX / T3 R are all the same. The only different one is Rubmaps, not sure what was going on when I created that username. LOL.
RChangDatyKing
02-21-22, 16:33
I try to keep it simple. USASG / HX / T3 R are all the same. The only different one is Rubmaps, not sure what was going on when I created that username. LOL.I'm talking about guys with different handles just on this USASG site.
I have different handles on other sites.
DrPornDawger
02-22-22, 17:03
Any Nubie who thinks just because he knows a place, a name, and what you got, and thinks he's going to get what you got is not into reality. It's not likely anyone gets a special menu on a first visit, regardless of what you know about what someone else is getting.
Relationships take many factors to getting extras on the menu. Time, Tips, Chemistry, Attitude, and Attraction to names a few variables.
So its not Your Mileage May Vary, but more Your Mileage Will Vary.
The high mileage mongers are very generous with their posts, so the lazy, lurkers, and trolls should be grateful for what they get for free.
The questions that alway make me laugh.
What is the address? What did you tip? And lately someone asked, Where do you park?
Thank you to all the high mileage mongers who share so freely and generously.Well sometimes if I've been inactive for awhile, let's say 1 month, some of these providers don't remember you, and some will have a moniker for your number that they've saved, I. E. "BBC banger" (British Born Chinese). LOL.
I just have to request some questions if the money or service has stayed the same. I have had texts from providers who constantly ask when I will be back in town and such. (Nice to be noticed and wanted, ya know).
Mr MuffMan
02-22-22, 21:33
I'm talking about guys with different handles just on this USASG site.
I have different handles on other sites.I think you're right. Some probably got banned and then resurface using another handle. Some might have multiple handles to promote whatever agenda they're trying to promote. Who knows?
Mr MuffMan.
MaximusKahn
02-27-22, 02:54
Well sometimes if I've been inactive for awhile, let's say 1 month, some of these providers don't remember you, and some will have a moniker for your number that they've saved, I. E. "BBC banger" (British Born Chinese). LOL.
I just have to request some questions if the money or service has stayed the same. I have had texts from providers who constantly ask when I will be back in town and such. (Nice to be noticed and wanted, ya know).We all have questions. The questions that can be answered by some simple research on this site or another site with a little bit of work are what gets funny.
Nobody who is very active at Mongering and had established good relationships with providers wants to just share all with lurkers and trolls who simply ask for all.
RChangDatyKing
03-01-22, 22:19
I think we all have our favorite agencies, AMPs, independents, etc and we like to support them when we can. But when there is / are member (s) who makes positive mentions of one group that he / they like to promote the group then take jabs at just one AMP (VIP) in the same post implying there are risks going to VIP clearly shows his / their intent to discourage others from going to VIP, IMO.
I'm sorry but I've been to VIP more times than I can count and only to Cris's AAMP setup once and I will continue to pick VIP over Cris's supposedly safe setup, anytime. First, Cris does not do any screening of her clients unlike the other well established AAMPs like SDAG or FEC. This is nowhere a safe practice IMO. I'm sorry but going to a spa is much safer than to an apartment where no screening is done on clients; 2nd- Cris handles all the scheduling and there's continued to be reports of Bait and Switch with her shop so you may not always get who you want to see, whereas with VIP and other known AMPs you can see a lineup. I've seen Cris and she's a good masseuse; that's is it she's a good masseuse. Yes, Cris is better than all the granny shops but when compared to VIP, 108, etc. Her setup cannot compare in terms of service offered and the over looks of the girls IMO.
There will continue to be shills that will promote their agendas. When they continue to take jabs at just one spa that time after time is well reviewed by so many mongers just on this forum alone it's makes you wonder, what's his / their agenda to take jabs at VIP? Do your research folks and be informed! Read the reviews and go where you are comfortable!
PoonTangJohnny
03-01-22, 22:57
I think we all have our favorite agencies, AMPs, independents, etc and we like to support them when we can. But when there is / are member (s) who makes positive mentions of one group that he / they like to promote the group then take jabs at just one AMP (VIP) in the same post implying there are risks going to VIP clearly shows his / their intent to discourage others from going to VIP, IMO.
I'm sorry but I've been to VIP more times than I can count and only to Cris's AAMP setup once and I will continue to pick VIP over Cris's supposedly safe setup, anytime. First, Cris does not do any screening of her clients unlike the other well established AAMPs like SDAG or FEC. This is nowhere a safe practice IMO. I'm sorry but going to a spa is much safer than to an apartment where no screening is done on clients; 2nd- Cris handles all the scheduling and there's continued to be reports of Bait and Switch with her shop so you may not always get who you want to see, whereas with VIP and other known AMPs you can see a lineup. I've seen Cris and she's a good masseuse; that's is it she's a good masseuse. Yes, Cris is better than all the granny shops but when compared to VIP, 108, etc. Her setup cannot compare in terms of service offered and the over looks of the girls IMO.
There will continue to be shills that will promote their agendas. When they continue to take jabs at just one spa that time after time is well reviewed by so many mongers just on this forum alone it's makes you wonder, what's his / their agenda to take jabs at VIP? Do your research folks and be informed! Read the reviews and go where you are comfortable!I for one, appreciate you addressing this subject (shills and agendas), King. I'm pretty certain, that there are many others here, who share these exact same sentiments you brought up.
For the record, I've been to VIP, 108 and several other AMP's, more times than I can remember, and spent more money than I want to know. I've never once had a single problem, other than maybe a disappointment or 2 regarding the sub par services I received.
On the other hand, like yourself, I too have been to Kris exactly 1 time. My experience too, was a blatant bait and switch on her part, and for that reason alone, I will never go back. It's very clear to me what is going on, regarding this member (shill) you mentioned, and his agenda regarding VIP. TY.
RChangDatyKing
03-02-22, 01:17
I think we all have our favorite agencies, AMPs, independents, etc and we like to support them when we can. But when there is / are member (s) who makes positive mentions of one group that he / they like to promote the group then take jabs at just one AMP (VIP) in the same post implying there are risks going to VIP clearly shows his / their intent to discourage others from going to VIP, IMO.
I'm sorry but I've been to VIP more times than I can count and only to Cris's AAMP setup once and I will continue to pick VIP over Cris's supposedly safe setup, anytime. First, Cris does not do any screening of her clients unlike the other well established AAMPs like SDAG or FEC. This is nowhere a safe practice IMO. I'm sorry but going to a spa is much safer than to an apartment where no screening is done on clients; 2nd- Cris handles all the scheduling and there's continued to be reports of Bait and Switch with her shop so you may not always get who you want to see, whereas with VIP and other known AMPs you can see a lineup. I've seen Cris and she's a good masseuse; that's is it she's a good masseuse. Yes, Cris is better than all the granny shops but when compared to VIP, 108, etc. Her setup cannot compare in terms of service offered and the over looks of the girls IMO.
There will continue to be shills that will promote their agendas. When they continue to take jabs at just one spa time after time, and that spa is well reviewed by so many mongers just on this forum alone it's makes you wonder, what's his / their agenda to take jabs at VIP? Do your research folks and be informed! Read the reviews and go where you are comfortable!LMFAO. I posted the above and I get a PM from a member asking if I've seen any full reviews on Venus, or if I've tried Venus with Cris's shop? This member also tried to throw VIP under the bus with his one post about them. LOL.
RChangDatyKing
03-02-22, 02:12
It only gets fucking better.
Apparently some yahoo appropriated my handle and is calling himself / themselves "rchangdatykng" on RubMaps. I was told on RubMaps my "handle" is appropriated by someone Formerly known as MP_pro.
The handle on RubMaps is missing an i in King as it appeared above.
Apparently there are "many" reviews using my handle promoting certain spas.
What's interesting is there is (was) a member on here, MPPro who had posted many reviews at one point. He reached out to me requesting I visit some spas and ask that I post my reviews after my visits. He told me he is co-owners at these spas. I told him to go pound sand and have not seen him post since. I'm glad I still kept his PM requesting for my reviews.
I am still trying to confirm the actual handle on RubMaps to see how similar or if it's the same as my handle that he appropriated. Thanks to a member on here that brought this to my attention with a question about a spa I haven't reviewed in over a year.
Guys, if you see reviews with my handle on RubMaps it's not me. Some Ahole is using my fuckin name. Bastard! What a fuckin loser.
DeeeezNutss
03-02-22, 02:25
This only means that you've made it and world famous! Lmao.
Father: who do you want to be when you grow up?
Son: I want to be MF'and RChangDatyKing!
It only gets fucking better.
Apparently some yahoo appropriated my handle and is calling himself / themselves "rchangdatykng" on RubMaps. I was told on RubMaps my "handle" is appropriated by someone Formerly known as MP_pro.
The handle on RubMaps is missing an i in King as it appeared above.
Apparently there are "many" reviews using my handle promoting certain spas.
What's interesting is there is (was) a member on here, MPPro who had posted many reviews at one point. He reached out to me requesting I visit some spas and ask that I post my reviews after my visits. He told me he is co-owners at these spas. I told him to go pound sand and have not seen him post since. I'm glad I still kept his PM requesting for my reviews.
I am still trying to confirm the actual handle on RubMaps to see how similar or if it's the same as my handle that he appropriated. Thanks to a member on here that brought this to my attention with a question about a spa I haven't reviewed in over a year.
Guys, if you see reviews with my handle on RubMaps it's not me. Some Ahole is using my fuckin name. Bastard! What a fuckin loser.
Yes. It is true. Diamond La Mesa. Comments from 2/25/2021.
It only gets fucking better.
Apparently some yahoo appropriated my handle and is calling himself / themselves "rchangdatykng" on RubMaps. I was told on RubMaps my "handle" is appropriated by someone Formerly known as MP_pro.
The handle on RubMaps is missing an i in King as it appeared above.
Apparently there are "many" reviews using my handle promoting certain spas.
What's interesting is there is (was) a member on here, MPPro who had posted many reviews at one point. He reached out to me requesting I visit some spas and ask that I post my reviews after my visits. He told me he is co-owners at these spas. I told him to go pound sand and have not seen him post since. I'm glad I still kept his PM requesting for my reviews.
I am still trying to confirm the actual handle on RubMaps to see how similar or if it's the same as my handle that he appropriated. Thanks to a member on here that brought this to my attention with a question about a spa I haven't reviewed in over a year.
Guys, if you see reviews with my handle on RubMaps it's not me. Some Ahole is using my fuckin name. Bastard! What a fuckin loser.
RChangDatyKing
03-02-22, 02:46
This only means that you've made it and world famous! Lmao.
Father: who do you want to be when you grow up?
Son: I want to be MF'and RChangDatyKing!LMFAO. Damn it, I don't want to be legend/famous.
I joined this board because I wanted to find out where all the hotties were. My mom and UTR friends tell me I have commitment issues maybe that's why I'm on here. LOL.
This site is amazing but let's get raid of these fuckin fakes. Shills, write your reviews for your girl (s) but there's no need to take jabs at other spas, agencies or providers to promote your girl (s). If your girls are good, the reviews will follow.
Happy hobbying everyone!
RChangDatyKing
03-02-22, 11:18
Yes. It is true. Diamond La Mesa. Comments from 2/25/2021.Bro, thanks again for reaching out to me and asking a question to bring this to light. Have a good one!
The DudeInSd
03-02-22, 11:53
I think we all have our favorite agencies, AMPs, independents, etc and we like to support them when we can. But when there is / are member (s) who makes positive mentions of one group that he / they like to promote the group then take jabs at just one AMP (VIP) in the same post implying there are risks going to VIP clearly shows his / their intent to discourage others from going to VIP, IMO.
Mina texted me and told me construction should be done by April. In my opinion VIP 2 is way safer than SV. In regards to my reviews I have left countless reviews of almost all of SDAG girls and many of FEC girls. Both great agencies. Love Mimi at 108 as well. She has many great girls just like Kelly / Venus.
DragonWolf
03-02-22, 15:39
It only gets fucking better.
Apparently some yahoo appropriated my handle and is calling himself / themselves "rchangdatykng" on RubMaps. I was told on RubMaps my "handle" is appropriated by someone Formerly known as MP_pro.
The handle on RubMaps is missing an i in King as it appeared above.
Apparently there are "many" reviews using my handle promoting certain spas.
What's interesting is there is (was) a member on here, MPPro who had posted many reviews at one point. He reached out to me requesting I visit some spas and ask that I post my reviews after my visits. He told me he is co-owners at these spas. I told him to go pound sand and have not seen him post since. I'm glad I still kept his PM requesting for my reviews.
I am still trying to confirm the actual handle on RubMaps to see how similar or if it's the same as my handle that he appropriated. Thanks to a member on here that brought this to my attention with a question about a spa I haven't reviewed in over a year.
Guys, if you see reviews with my handle on RubMaps it's not me. Some Ahole is using my fuckin name. Bastard! What a fuckin loser.I'm periodically on there under a different handle, and I'm wondering if the fool who took your name is who I think it is. There are some REALLY "loud" people on there, who always have to have a say on everything like it's their own personal board. The environment over there is pretty toxic, to be honest, which is part of the reason I'm glad that it's the one place I have a different handle. But if it's who I think it is, then that sucks dude, because unlike RCDK, the person (MPro) I'm thinking of doesn't leave a positive impression.
RChangDatyKing
03-02-22, 22:40
I'm periodically on there under a different handle, and I'm wondering if the fool who took your name is who I think it is. There are some REALLY "loud" people on there, who always have to have a say on everything like it's their own personal board. The environment over there is pretty toxic, to be honest, which is part of the reason I'm glad that it's the one place I have a different handle. But if it's who I think it is, then that sucks dude, because unlike RCDK, the person (MPro) I'm thinking of doesn't leave a positive impression.DWolf, thanks for the additional information.
Yes, thanks to JI0602. If it wasn't for him I would not have known my handle was appropriated by the Ahole. When he told this person’s former / previous handle was/is MPPro I knew exactly who it is because the guy asked me to review some of his spas when he had posted on this forum. It's definitely not me on RubMaps.
DragonWolf
03-03-22, 00:57
DWolf, thanks for the additional information.
Yes, thanks to JI0602. If it wasn't for him I would not have known my handle was appropriated by the Ahole. When he told this persons former / previous handle was/is MPPro I knew exactly who it is because the guy asked me to review some of his spas when he had posted on this forum. It's definitely not me on RubMaps.It makes me wish my premium was still active. LOL.
RChangDatyKing
03-03-22, 02:04
Mina texted me and told me construction should be done by April. In my opinion VIP 2 is way safer than SV. In regards to my reviews I have left countless reviews of almost all of SDAG girls and many of FEC girls. Both great agencies. Love Mimi at 108 as well. She has many great girls just like Kelly / Venus.Since you responded to my post I'll take that as an invitation for me to respond back.
Are you really a fan because I can recall most of your posts about VIP has been more jabs about them rather than recommendations to go visit their establishments.
You did wrote a positive review about VIP SV once on 12/10/21 (post # 16283) after you saw CiCi. You said your experience was crazy awesome and said other spas need to raise their game.
After that review its been all jabs about VIP (and you also mentioned 108 in this post) being unsafe, they need cameras, there's no defense on the doors (post #135 on 12/19/21).
You said you're a fan of VIP2, have you really been there? On 1/1/22 post #16691 you asked for the VIP2 location.
Maybe you weren't given the address to VIP2 and/or was never invited so on 1/3/22 post #16740 you mock people posting about VIP2 saying it's not some exclusive club.
On 1/4/22 post # 151 you again posted something about talking to a cop friend, VIP license check and that if people visit VIP they are at risk.
On 1/13/22 post #16867 you mock VIP2 again and said it's comical that people needing an invite that it's not an exclusive club.
What fan would posts so many negative things about a place they enjoy going to. So it makes me wonder, Are you really a fan? Have you actually been to VIP2 exclusive club?
In this post you say you love MiMi at 108. Is this the same MiMi you say is greedy like in post # 16134 on 12/2/21? You talked about 108 being super risky with the setup in the business building, they are setting up to get busted, no bolt on doors, no password like Pine. That you were out!
Are you really now a fan of VIP and 108?
Again, we all have our favorite AMPs, independents, AAMPs, etc. Write your reviews for your favorite providers, but don't take jabs at places without a personal experience that you can share.
RChangDatyKing
03-03-22, 02:59
It makes me wish my premium was still active. LOL.Yeah maybe someone on this board has the membership and can share with me if the yahoo is still actively posting.
That's why I like USASexGuide and have been using it more than all the other sites I'm a member of because I can see honest / balanced reviews for the most part from members on here.
DeeeezNutss
03-03-22, 03:13
(Grabs a bowl of popcorn).
Since you responded to my post I'll take that as an invitation for me to respond back.
Are you really a fan because I can recall most of your posts about VIP has been more jabs about them rather than recommendations to go visit their establishments.
You did wrote a positive review about VIP SV once on 12/10/21 (post # 16283) after you saw CiCi. You said your experience was crazy awesome and said other spas need to raise their game.
After that review its been all jabs about VIP (and you also mentioned 108 in this post) being unsafe, they need cameras, there's no defense on the doors (post #135 on 12/19/21).
You said you're a fan of VIP2, have you really been there? On 1/1/22 post #16691 you asked for the VIP2 location.
Maybe you weren't given the address to VIP2 and/or was never invited so on 1/3/22 post #16740 you mock people posting about VIP2 saying it's not some exclusive club.
On 1/4/22 post # 151 you again posted something about talking to a cop friend, VIP license check and that if people visit VIP they are at risk.
On 1/13/22 post #16867 you mock VIP2 again and said it's comical that people needing an invite that it's not an exclusive club.
What fan would posts so many negative things about a place they enjoy going to. So it makes me wonder, Are you really a fan? Have you actually been to VIP2 exclusive club?
In this post you say you love MiMi at 108. Is this the same MiMi you say is greedy like in post # 16134 on 12/2/21? You talked about 108 being super risky with the setup in the business building, they are setting up to get busted, no bolt on doors, no password like Pine. That you were out!
Are you really now a fan of VIP and 108?
Again, we all have our favorite AMPs, independents, AAMPs, etc. Write your reviews for your favorite providers, but don't take jabs at places without a personal experience that you can share.
RChangDatyKing
03-03-22, 03:17
(Grabs a bowl of popcorn).People just needs to be honest! I’m just reminding him what he had said.
The DudeInSd
03-03-22, 08:24
Since you responded to my post I'll take that as an invitation for me to respond back.
Are you really a fan because I can recall most of your posts about VIP has been more jabs about them rather than recommendations to go visit their establishments.
You did wrote a positive review about VIP SV once on 12/10/21 (post # 16283) after you saw CiCi. You said your experience was crazy awesome and said other spas need to raise their game.
After that review its been all jabs about VIP (and you also mentioned 108 in this post) being unsafe, they need cameras, there's no defense on the doors (post #135 on 12/19/21).
You said you're a fan of VIP2, have you really been there? On 1/1/22 post #16691 you asked for the VIP2 location.
Maybe you weren't given the address to VIP2 and/or was never invited so on 1/3/22 post #16740 you mock people posting about VIP2 saying it's not some exclusive club.
On 1/4/22 post # 151 you again posted something about talking to a cop friend, VIP license check and that if people visit VIP they are at risk.
On 1/13/22 post #16867 you mock VIP2 again and said it's comical that people needing an invite that it's not an exclusive club.Mimi is a sweetheart, but I do not feel safe going there due to the fact that there is no locked door or gate at 108 to slow down homeless people or LE but I do go to her other locations. I have spoke to her about it but she does not seem worried. Her choice.
Went to see Cici in SV before the cops burst through the door and bloodied up the customer and what Mina told me is now they have put in cameras and how a gate with a lock at the front.
I am a fan of VIP 2 due to it's location and much safer setup I find it comical that some folks on this site like to think of it as some exclusive club.
CuriousJo8
03-03-22, 10:56
The office building area that 108 is in is far from ghetto. Never seen homeless people in that area.
There was that one time a homeless lady was loitering outside of 7 Spa. She never entered the premises.
People ignore my report of two cop cars chilling in the cul-de-sac by Flanders back in June, but there is this paranoid fear of 108, exclusively. I mean, when I was entering the cul-de-sac, the cops shined their light at my car. No other person here has corroborated their presence, but Flanders is a pretty popular and busy place as well. Also, never any talk of concerns with Smile and Super Spa which are all in the same neighborhood as 108.
Mimi is a sweetheart, but I do not feel safe going there due to the fact that there is no locked door or gate at 108 to slow down homeless people or LE but I do go to her other locations. I have spoke to her about it but she does not seem worried. Her choice.
Went to see Cici in SV before the cops burst through the door and bloodied up the customer and what Mina told me is now they have put in cameras and how a gate with a lock at the front.
I am a fan of VIP 2 due to it's location and much safer setup I find it comical that some folks on this site like to think of it as some exclusive club.
PoonTangJohnny
03-03-22, 12:09
In light of the continued negativity being reported here towards a couple of the AMPs (VIP), I thought it would be interesting taking a trip back down memory lane & put 2+2 together, and address what is really going on here. Shills and their agenda's. It hasn't stopped.
I reached out to Cris about her friend and she was unwilling to provide pictures or info about this Kelly. Just kept asking me when I would like to come. I appreciate all your input over the years SD and our pms, but I don't think Cris and her friends provide the same service to most as they might to you. I've visited Cris and figured it would be fine with her giving info about new girl, but she was reluctant for some reason. She'll post it in an ad but not give out to former clients? Was interested in seeing her, but Cris has a lot to learn in this business if she plans to stay around.
I do find it comical though that your Asian guess of "26 years old, looks really young. 5'2" and 105 lbs" is 'exactly' what Cris puts in the add for Kelly. Ha.
So I checked Cris out, given from the review that she provides FS upgrade and I have to say, I honestly still don't even know if I fucked "Cris" or not. Txted her number on RR, she txted me back fairly quickly and I showed up on her incall in no time. When the door was opened, there was a lady who doesn't resemble anything from the pictures.
- She looked way taller; Probably 5'7 or taller. Doesn't look attractive, but keeping the mask on helped me enough to get distracted.
- Not so great in English.
- Handed her 140 for an hr and she told me to undress.
- Apparently there was another girl in the apartment since she was talking to someone else while I was getting undressed. (Perhaps "real" Cris?
- Before I was done undressing, she just walked in and gave me a big smile; proceeded to get on her knees and began sucking my dick (BBBJ) for good 5 minutes. Honestly, her BBBJ was pretty great though.
- She has multiple tattoos on her, especially on the left side.
- Then proceeded on putting covers then we began fucking in multiple positions. Mish, Doggy, standing doggy, CG, RCG.
- After some doggy, she was kinda insisting taking off the cover and just BBFS her, but her hemorrhoid was so bad, I thought that shit was a wart for a sec. So I kept the rubber on just in case. Just a little warning.
- Popped in the bag after 15 minute of non-stop fucking.
- She never mentioned about additional tip for FS, but shorted the session to 20-25 minute instead. Didn't complain since I was there almost 30 min and got BBBJ and FS for total 140 anyway. BUT THERE WAS NO MASSAGE WHATSOEVER.
Look - 4/10.
Service - 8/10 (BBBJ / CFS).
Damage - $. 4.
First off, I saw Ash. Another great experience by the way. Didn't know you were keeping tabs on who everyone on the board sees! Second, I don't like to waste time or money on girls that I prefer not to see. Thanks to other mongers out there for letting us know when names change, for example bunny is now kiko. I didn't have a good experience with her, so a fellow monger let us know and saved me time and money.
Lastly, I think a majority of people on this board have caught on to your ways and are tired of you posting about cris and her friends. Please feel free to start your own thread on the topic. I'm not sure where your attacks on me are coming from, but all I pointed out was somehow you had the exact details or in what you said was your Asian guess, as the post Cris put up.
Please fellow mongers, chime in on the topic!
I have commented a couple times on how the dude is schilling for this booker Cris and is the only one posting reviews of the girls here. It seems really sketchy, so I am not going to ever visit.
I will stick with SDAG and FEC and Sandra99 for now.
I 100% agree with you. Thedudeinsd gets all butt hurt if anyone disagrees with him about kris and gang and accuses you of being poor or rude to his supposively amazing girls. I saw them and they are not nearly as attractive. Perhaps he just had lower standards. But whatever to each his own.
He's butt hurt. Is he a pimp, manager or booker? IDGAF since he has clearly posted misleading info. I'm avoiding Cris and this crew based on what TheDudeInSd has posted. I don't need an image search to recognize the rants of a guy that is promoting his crew.
He's way too defensive in his perspective of these girls. It's a dead give away that he's getting kickbacks from these girls or is their manager / promoter.
He should be disqualified of senior member status.
I don't know that guy from adam, but I also have observed his pattern of shilling and it is highly suspicious. Whatever his connection is to Cris and the rest of them, it's resulting in less-than unbiased reviews.
I've noted previously that there is something weird about those posts. If the services are legit and the girls hot, then the word will get around soon enough. The fact that it hasn't is telling. Personally I don't have the time to do systematic searches on images, names and reputations. I really appreciate it when guys who have made this a real hobby do, and share that info. You guys have saved me from wasting a lot of money. For me 2020 has been mixed. Some fantastic experiences (Ash, Bora in the Asian FS market). A cool encounter at KK with Jenny; and some phenomenal fbsm activity (Natalie, Michelle, Alyson). A significant number of others have been just "OK". And a couple of money and time wasters. I've talked about these in various threads over the year. The bottom line is I've learned to trust a few seasoned hobbyists and had some fun as a result. Hoping for better times in 2021.
What the hell is happening to this board! Not only are there TWO first time posting on this Asian thread, but there are also TWO first time posting on the independent massage thread! Can anyone guess what they all have in common. That's right! Thy all talk about or mention Cris and her friends!
I'm all for adding new members and getting input, but common! In just one day we have FOUR new members and each one of them has their first post talking about Cris and her friends.
Does anyone else see this?
Sir Bishop
03-03-22, 13:25
People just needs to be honest! Im just reminding him what he had said.Honestly I've blocked shills, bookers, mongers spreading mis-information and irritating people. My father advised and I follow, "Don't get in an argument with a fool".
DragonWolf
03-03-22, 13:35
Honestly I've blocked shills, bookers, mongers spreading mis-information and irritating people. My father advised and I follow, "Don't get in an argument with a fool".Reminds me of a saying one of my best friends told me many years ago (he probably got it from some comedian at the time).
He told me to remember that the average person is an idiot. Which means that half the people out there are even worse.
Went to see Cici in SV before the cops burst through the door and bloodied up the customer and what Mina told me is now they have put in cameras and how a gate with a lock at the front.
I am a fan of VIP 2 due to it's location and much safer setup I find it comical that some folks on this site like to think of it as some exclusive club.Gentlemen, gentlemen. You're both highly respected members on this forum and personally I found nothing expressed from "The DudeInSD" other than one's own personal opinion and experiences, BUT.
I must say that the white knights for a certain popular spa is readily apparent. IMO this spa doesn't need defense for what I see as the slightest of "jabs" as it only takes away from the legitimacy of the talent and service they provide.
Now for the few outright lies and misperceptions against any spa, I'll call that BS out hard and in a heart beat!
The DudeInSd
03-03-22, 16:32
In light of the continued negativity being reported here towards a couple of the AMPs (VIP), I thought it would be interesting taking a trip back down memory lane & put 2+2 together, and address what is really going on here. Shills and their agenda's. It hasn't stopped.Guilty, I am a shill for Middle East Sally, SDAG, FEC, countless massage parlor reports.
You got me hahahahaha.
I can't speak for anyone else, but personally I'm not ignoring your mention of any police presence at any spa, rather not bringing more attention to it. Unless a place has been literally raided, there is no sense in speculating. I used to have an old Crown Vic, an actual "used" police spec municipal vehicle I bought at auction that looked exactly like an unmarked with a spotlight. My buddies and I sure had some fun with that car. Just saying.
Fear mongering the faint of heart simply annoys me, but doesn't dissuade me from the risks I take to enjoy some of these lovely working girls and any risks these girls allow me to partake. Something tells me you're of the same mindset.
I enjoy your reports on USASexGuide and RubMaps!
The office building area that 108 is in is far from ghetto. Never seen homeless people in that area.
There was that one time a homeless lady was loitering outside of 7 Spa. She never entered the premises.
People ignore my report of two cop cars chilling in the cul-de-sac by Flanders back in June, but there is this paranoid fear of 108, exclusively. I mean, when I was entering the cul-de-sac, the cops shined their light at my car. No other person here has corroborated their presence, but Flanders is a pretty popular and busy place as well. Also, never any talk of concerns with Smile and Super Spa which are all in the same neighborhood as 108.
The DudeInSd
03-03-22, 19:57
In light of the continued negativity being reported here towards a couple of the AMPs (VIP), I thought it would be interesting taking a trip back down memory lane & put 2+2 together, and address what is really going on here. Shills and their agenda's. It hasn't stopped.These are non-Cris reviews LMAO. Because I am her shill. Ummm whatever.
Keep in mind this is only going back to 2021, I have 90+ reviews on TER, 1 of which is Cris LOL.
1. Middle East Sally.
2. SDAG--the best Korean agency in town-Ash.
Kiko.
Arisa.
Sema.
Susette.
Cuban Ginger man her BBBJ is mind blwoing.
Binna.
Mannie.
10. FEC-Gia.
Seya.
Ace.
Sia.
14. Sandra 99 Nira and Emily.
16. Massage Parlor reviews-Amy Happy Foot.
Amy Leisure.
Apple Diamond in Hilcrest.
Japanese Mia in Hilcrest Mimi traveler.
Ava You spa in LG.
Serenity Viet girl don't remember name, 1 of few negative reviews I ever do.
Erma Yoyo.
Cici VIP in SV.
Golden A Summer.
Rainbow Lucy.
Smile spa Angela / Angel.
Fountain Lisa.
Unique on EBC Thai girl named May.
You spa Lulu in LG.
There's 29 reviews and add that to the 90+ on TER and you get a shit ton.
Shill? Ummmm yeah OK. 120 girls I shill.
Cheers.
I've been accused of the same, because I rarely right any negative reviews. First, I'm experienced enough to know how to avoid disasters. Second, there are enough negative Charlie's out there to vent their inexperience.
Last shill I was accused of was Michelle at 7 Spa and I predicted there would be plenty more shilling going about her, then there was. Vindicated!
These are non-Cris reviews LMAO. Because I am her shill. Ummm whatever.
Keep in mind this is only going back to 2021, I have 90+ reviews on TER, 1 of which is Cris LOL….
…There's 29 reviews and add that to the 90+ on TER and you get a shit ton.
Shill? Ummmm yeah OK. 120 girls I shill.
Cheers.
RChangDatyKing
03-03-22, 20:49
Honestly I've blocked shills, bookers, mongers spreading mis-information and irritating people. My father advised and I follow, "Don't get in an argument with a fool".
Reminds me of a saying one of my best friends told me many years ago (he probably got it from some comedian at the time).
He told me to remember that the average person is an idiot. Which means that half the people out there are even worse.I cannot agree with you guys more. I posted / cited what were previously said / jabs by the person about only 2 well reviewed spas. Readers / mongers here have the information so they can use them how they want. The question is why take jabs at spas, when reviewing one of your favorites? Some of the posts weren't even reviews of any visits with providers, just words to discourage people to not visit certain spas. I think many already know the agenda / purpose of those posts.
RChangDatyKing
03-03-22, 20:55
The office building area that 108 is in is far from ghetto. Never seen homeless people in that area.
There was that one time a homeless lady was loitering outside of 7 Spa. She never entered the premises.
People ignore my report of two cop cars chilling in the cul-de-sac by Flanders back in June, but there is this paranoid fear of 108, exclusively. I mean, when I was entering the cul-de-sac, the cops shined their light at my car. No other person here has corroborated their presence, but Flanders is a pretty popular and busy place as well. Also, never any talk of concerns with Smile and Super Spa which are all in the same neighborhood as 108.CuriousJo8, I couldn't agree with you more. There are mongers on here (I can count in less than one hand) that will make 108 and VIP a target of their negative posts to promote some of the spas you've mentioned.
Promote your favorite spas, why say anything bad at all about the others unless the SERVICE you received sucks.
I saw your post back in June (?) and definitely made a mental note. But unlike some who may not like that spa may keep repeating it to discourage people from going there.
Damn.
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PoonTangJohnny
03-03-22, 21:42
Promote your favorite spas, why say anything bad at all about the others unless the SERVICE you received sucks.Why you ask, do these few member's you mentioned (who in reality could be 1 person with multiple accounts?) continue their negative attack campaign against one specific AMP'?
Because they know, that there isn't a single AMP in all of San Diego who can compete with the level of service and girls that VIP is providing. Nobody. So their last resort are these continual nasty smear and fear tactics.
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