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Toodw
01-12-09, 20:46
Thanks for the info. I did feel like $50 was a little high, I wanted to figure out was $20 a good tip for a HJ or is $30. I think that I will do $30 next time and see what happens. I try not to see the same lady twice unless she is amazing. I am actually VERY close to KoreaTown.

Any recommendations in KTown for Spas or ladies. I know of TER and can do a search for ladies there, I don't really see a great escort place here in USASexGuide.

Thanks,

Toodw

Nitescape
01-13-09, 17:53
Been considering trying an AMP for a while.

Rub and tug would probably be just fine for me, but I have a question.

Do they put a condom on you to do a HJ?

I sure would hope not, but figured I should ask.

Thanks

Triple Monks
01-13-09, 19:33
Been considering trying an AMP for a while.

Rub and tug would probably be just fine for me, but I have a question.

Do they put a condom on you to do a HJ?

I sure would hope not, but figured I should ask.

ThanksThey will do HJ with lotion or oil. So to answer your question, no, they don't use condoms.

Happy hunting!

Desertchief
01-14-09, 00:48
Been considering trying an AMP for a while.

Rub and tug would probably be just fine for me, but I have a question.

Do they put a condom on you to do a HJ?

I sure would hope not, but figured I should ask.

Thanks

Never have had a condom for a HJ. And that covers probably 15 places in 4 states in 7 years.

B Malibu
01-14-09, 02:31
Been considering trying an AMP for a while.

Rub and tug would probably be just fine for me, but I have a question.

Do they put a condom on you to do a HJ?

I sure would hope not, but figured I should ask.

Thanks
Very, very, very doubtful they'll cover up l'il Nitescape for just a hj.

Bushido
01-14-09, 06:26
Hey guys,

I've been trying to go to YTT on Western and SM late at night and I have a question-- Do you enter through the front, up the stairs or is there another way in the back? I feel skeptical about walking up stairs to a building with the lights off.

Thanks

Nitescape
01-14-09, 17:15
Thanks for the help.

And just to give my amateur feedback, I'd be surprised if most AMPs do not at LEAST offer a "rub n tug", considering they want to make money.

It seems we're in here trying to find the "hot spots", but I'd guess that it's more available then we think, depending on how we present ourselves.

Then again what do I know?

I'm just sayin that if and when I try to go out, I'll probably have fun checking out new and unknown places, for a 40 or 50 hour session, and just seeing what happens.

I think just the massage alone, will be quite enjoyable, and that's not a lot of money.

Well anyways, just yappin.

Nitescape
01-14-09, 17:18
Oh yeah, and another thing I've seen here that I didn't like, was that there seemed to be more than a few FAT chicks.

I never considered this a problem before, because you don't normally see fat asian chicks.

I don't know if this is a new trend or not, but this is a real deal killer for me, even for a massage.

I wish the setup was like it is in other countries, where you get to see the line-up of girls, and pick!

Now if a place out here had THAT, they'd be the shit.

Toadtamer2
01-14-09, 21:11
Up the stairs, knock on the door.

Another place on the left, don't get confused.

Jheights
01-15-09, 02:31
Wasn't sure if YTT was still around, use to be a regular but haven't had any contact lately. Tried calling bout 2 weeks ago but nothing and the building has been dark. Are they keeping things on the dl?

Toadtamer2
01-15-09, 22:13
They knocked the walls down and added drapes. Kinda weak now. They got hit up for closing late. Better spots elsewhere.

Hokusai
01-16-09, 12:31
And just to give my amateur feedback, I'd be surprised if most AMPs do not at LEAST offer a "rub n tug", considering they want to make money...True if you're talking about Korean operated AMPs, but in the last 7 or 8 years a number of Thai parlors have opened and the situation with these Thai places is hit or miss.

I visited three of these places and got zilch. I don't patronize AMPs for a therapeutic massage, so I stick to the tried and true.

Nitescape
01-17-09, 14:13
True if you're talking about Korean operated AMPs, but in the last 7 or 8 years a number of Thai parlors have opened and the situation with these Thai places is hit or miss.

I visited three of these places and got zilch. I don't patronize AMPs for a therapeutic massage, so I stick to the tried and true.Wow.

Are the Thai richer or something? LOL

Seriously though, I don't get that.

And the thing is, that I like Thai girls MUCH better than Korean girls. I really don't like Korean girls at all.

These places you mention, are they actual Thai girls?

If so, I don't get why they are turning away business.

And it's not just the tip, but just like you, many guys won't bring their business there period, so they are losing out on the hour session fee, in addition to the tip.

Hokusai
01-19-09, 00:00
...These places you mention, are they actual Thai girls? Yep. They're real Thai girls. I've heard from other hobbyists that you can get a hand job if you're lucky, beyond that, nada.

Nitescape
01-21-09, 01:05
Yep. They're real Thai girls. I've heard from other hobbyists that you can get a hand job if you're lucky, beyond that, nada.That begs the question: WHY?

Triple Monks
01-21-09, 19:16
**This is my first report and I'm new at posting so, if I break a few posting rules, I apologize before hand**

To all my AMP hobbyists, I want to give my reports on two AMPs that I visited recently and tell you the low down on each.

The first is a CMP hidden away on Overland and has really no signage to speak of. I was at this tiny "shopping center" to get some food when I looked up and saw on the second floor three separate businesses. The business that really caught my attention was the one in the middle. It has a single "Open" sign turned on and all the blinds in the windows were closed. That sight got my attention and decided to check it out. To my surprise, when I gently pushed on the door, it was unlocked and I immediately knew what I had stumbled onto. It was a small, well-lite MP and an Asian lady (possibly in her mid 30's) walked out and greeted me. She asked if I've ever been here and I said "no". She asked what I wanted and I said "30 minutes" and she said ". 4". Her name is Jennifer and her english was decent, but with an accent. She let me to a one of the rooms (all the room have curtains instead of curtains) where I disrobed and got on the table/bed. Jennifer was probably a 4. 5/10 on the looks department but gave one of the best messages I've ever had. She walked on my back and did hot oil and different kinds of things and I knew she knew what she was doing. After about 20 minutes of great massage, I flipped over and did my chest and then rubbed my stomach and asked if I wanted her to "take care of" my SOLDIER and I said yes. She then proceeded with a very nice HJ and kinda allowed me to roam around on her clothed body. After about a minute or so, I came and she cleaned me up with a hot towel. She was very nice and very into her massage skills. I left and gave her a. 6 tip just because the massage was soo damn good. Looks: 4. 5, body: 5, service/massage: 9. Since this was a CMP, they don't do anything else besides HJ and are mostly legit. If you want a great massage with a nice HJ, this is a great place.

The second place I visited yesterday evening on my way home from work. This MP was also hidden in the back behind some stores, but it did have a sign. I walked in and had to ring the bell. This short Korean MMS greeted me and in a weird way, she was kinda cute (maybe late 20's). She asked if I had ever been before and I said "no", but since they were Korean, I made some shit up about being referred here by my Korean co-worker. The inside of the MP was nice, about half the rooms had curtains while the other half had doors. The MMS led me to this room with a big table, a couch (haha), mirrors on either sides of the room, checked my id, asked my age and asked how long I wanted. I said 30 minutes and she mentions. 5 and I hand her the money. She leaves and as I am disrobing, a tall, slender Korean chick comes in in a short little black and white mini-dress. She looked like a 8 and her body was about a 7. On closer inspection, I could tell that she was about in her mid to late 20's. Said her name was Mimi and that this was her second day. I said down and then she started to give me a very whatevers massage. She tried to make small talk, but since her english is really crap, I just teased her with questions about random shit. On the flip, she teased me and asked how I wanted my SOLDIER taken care of and I told her that I wanted it all. She smiled at me, and left and got some hot towels. She came back, disrobed, and climbed onto the table and started to rub her nakedness all over my nakedness hahaha! Then went downtown and put the rubber on with her mouth! We did different positions and after a while, after some screaming from her, I came and she cleaned me off. After a little bit of small talk, she put my clothes on for me and I handed her. 8. She looked at it and said that next time, I would have to give her 1. Next time. I said that's all I had and asked for her number just in case she did this outside of "work" haha, but said she only does "that" here. She then walked me out, hugged me at the door and then kissed me and told me to come back. Overall, the massage was pretty shit, but the "service" was great. Looks: 8. Body: 7.

So, I pretty much found two places that I wanted to find. A place with great massages and another place with Korean girls who do fs.

If anybody wants the info of where these places are at, PM me.

Triple Monks

Terry Duckwort
01-24-09, 02:06
I see lots of massage parlors, mainly Thai, in strip malls on Sunset in Silverlake, and I find myself wondering what kind of services they offer. What can I reasonably expect when cold calling these places?

Jonas Areniias
01-26-09, 12:33
I am heading to 5338 tonight to give it a try, Is it normal for guys to be working the door there? I haven't encountered that anywhere else. 5338 seems to be popular, so can anyone in the know recommend a girl? I think Natasha (or Natalie) was the one but there was Mimi too. I haven't done fs, really just the hj.

Pinoy Mclovin
01-26-09, 15:35
I am heading to 5338 tonight to give it a try, Is it normal for guys to be working the door there? I haven't encountered that anywhere else. 5338 seems to be popular, so can anyone in the know recommend a girl? I think Natasha (or Natalie) was the one but there was Mimi too. I haven't done fs, really just the hj.Jonas,

Mimi works there on W/F/Sa/Su. Not sure if Natasha works tonight.

Anyway, I was there last Friday and went to see Mimi. This is my 4th time seeing her. In my previous trip there I skipped the massage and went to some play time right away. This time I told her, I want to experience her massage skills. It was not bad at all. All the stretching (typical for Thai massage), joint snapping and muscle pressing made me feel so good.

30 minutes left in my session, I asked her we go to our play time. Clothes come off, did some body rub, nipple licking and stroking my meat while I FIV her. While she was on top of me she teased me with her beaver by grazing her slit onto my shaft. I told her I am about to blow and she quickly beat the monkey to completion.

She lay down next to me and asked her if she does the same thing to other men. She said, to a few. And as far as going FS, she said no. She is paranoid of getting preggers. You see I asked her about this because I found out from other mongers who I gave the info about 5338 and her get different results. It is a YMMV thing bro. Some mongers who got serviced by Mimi did not get the roaming while getting HJ. The unluckiest one did not even get the HE just a great massage. My assumption is that she is on the rags.

While we were chatting she continue to stroke me so I can get hard again. Without telling her anything she positioned herself by standing next to the table and stroke me wildly and sucking on my nipples til I jizzed. Man, this is why I keep coming back to see her. Gave her $. 4 and she seem happy and DFK me.

Hokusai
01-26-09, 18:55
I see lots of massage parlors, mainly Thai, in strip malls on Sunset in Silverlake, and I find myself wondering what kind of services they offer. What can I reasonably expect when cold calling these places?As I noted elsewhere, Thai parlors are a calculated risk as far as any kind of action goes. Don't even count on an hj much less fs.

Hokusai
01-26-09, 19:08
That begs the question: WHY?Nitescape is asking why no more than a hj.

I don't the answer to that. Thai parlors are relatively new on the scene (maybe they've been around for 8-10 years, certainly no longer.) I'll hazard a guess that that they started as legit operations and that when clients began hinting at extras and offering tips the girls accepted at their discretion and in violation of management's rules. One actually told me as much when I asked for extra (by the way she refused but said maybe next time which I took to be a come-on.)

If my theory is right, then you can't expect anything more than a therapeutic massage, though you might get lucky and get a hj.

Ramon Ayala
01-27-09, 00:04
I saw Mimi the other night, great service. The only thing that I didnt like was the pushing of a 4 hand massage. I had to raise my voice to the other chick to leave the room. Mimi get's the job done.

JeffTheDrunk
01-28-09, 05:01
I saw Mimi the other night, great service. The only thing that I didnt like was the pushing of a 4 hand massage. I had to raise my voice to the other chick to leave the room. Mimi get's the job done.The 4 hand massage is usually offered by the girls when things are slow. Then again, things are usually only slow in legit/semi-legit places. So it's always a good idea to leave at once when you're offered a 4 hand massage and you're there with the expectation of getting FS.

By the way, Chito Cano says "Hola" to you, Ramon Ayala.

D Goliath
02-05-09, 05:13
That begs the question: WHY?Thai places are usually not FS salon outside of Thailand. Every Thai place I've ever been to in America has been mostly legit with some scattered HEs. FS places are usually Korean or Vietnamese with some scattered Japanese girls working there.

Nitescape
02-05-09, 12:25
Thai places are usually not FS salon outside of Thailand. Every Thai place I've ever been to in America has been mostly legit with some scattered HEs. FS places are usually Korean or Vietnamese with some scattered Japanese girls working there.Appreciate the feedback, but that doesn't answer WHY this is.

I still don't get it.

Are they more afraid than the Korean/Vietnamese?

(by the way, where would you even find a Vietnamese massage? I don't think I've ever seen a place advertising with Vietnamese.

Come to think of it, I don't ever see a place that advertises Korean massage either.)

Deez Nut
02-05-09, 18:38
(by the way, where would you even find a Vietnamese massage? I don't think I've ever seen a place advertising with Vietnamese.

either.)

The majority of Vietnamese MP are located in the OC. There's also a spot in Downey that have Viet providers.

Deez Nut

Pinoy Mclovin
02-05-09, 19:52
Appreciate the feedback, but that doesn't answer WHY this is.

I still don't get it.

Are they more afraid than the Korean/Vietnamese?

(by the way, where would you even find a Vietnamese massage? I don't think I've ever seen a place advertising with Vietnamese.

Come to think of it, I don't ever see a place that advertises Korean massage either.)I just spoke to my provider who is a Thai. She said that Thai places do not offer FS is due to their strict management policies. They want to stay in business and would not like to get caught in this "dirty" business. Although they are not encouraged to engage in other 'business relationship' with their regulars, their management suggested to do it someplace else as long as not in the premises of the massage parlor and not in conflict with their work schedule.

If you notice most of the Thai places have either curtains or accordion type doors that has no locking mechanism. Thai girls make a lot of noise when they get f**ked, according to my provider. Once the manager hears that, she will peek and immediately stop her. And you will be booted out as soon as you get dressed.

IMO, since the statement is only coming from her, it does not mean that all of them are. There will be bad Thai apples out there that may go FS. It is just a matter of TOFTT. Find one and post a report. You will be the Christopher Columbus of TMP offering FS. LOL. So everytime we go there, you will be in our mind thanking you, bro.

Peace

PM

AMPaddict
02-05-09, 21:31
Xxx 1/2.

It's 8:30pm and I am horny (as usual). There is 100 burning hole in my pocket and I am driving West on Venice.

Decided to stop by one of the Chinese massage joints that have recently popped all over the Westside. Amy opens the door and she is available! Nice tall Chinese girl whit cute face, nice legs and sweet looking jeans clad ass. Bingo. ! Amy is a better looking among the two generally present at that location.

I pay 4 for 30, get naked, hope on to the table, Amy comes in and gives me a nice massage for about 20 minutes. As I start grabbing her ass and running my hands over her legs, she starts tickling my ass and the boys. And as I get hard motions me to turn over. I happily oblige and she goes to work on mr. Happy. I lift her t-shirt and pull the bra up, nice earser length nipples that are hard. She gets close and lets me suck on them as she continues to stroke. A few minutes later I blow my wad. She wipes me down with a hot towel and leaves the room. I dress and give her another 4. I'm happy and smiling, all in all 8 well spent. Life is good! I hear other extras are available. Anyone else familiar with this place?

Mr Sixty
02-06-09, 12:07
Appreciate the feedback, but that doesn't answer WHY this is.

I still don't get it.

Are they more afraid than the Korean/Vietnamese?

(by the way, where would you even find a Vietnamese massage? I don't think I've ever seen a place advertising with Vietnamese.

Come to think of it, I don't ever see a place that advertises Korean massage either.)

I can't answer your questions, but I do think there is a lot of confusion over Asian ethnicities among mongers. For example, I've seen reports here that talk about KAMPs, where guys will say, "The K-Tech was very cute blah blah blah," and I go to the same place, and the girl tells me she is Chinese. We then talk about China and where she is from, and I am convinced she is Chinese and not Korean. (Why would they lie about that, anyway?)

On the other hand, I've talked to Japanese women who tell me that Korean providers often say they are Japanese, because there is an erotic mysticism about Japanese women that some men seek. (The Geisha myth, I suppose.)

I don't know if that's true, but I do know when I've been to places with Japanese names, the providers have NEVER been Japanese, but they do admit it when asked.

OK, to address your question a little bit: Thai massage is actually a massage modality, like Swedish massage or Balinese massage. It has a long history of therapeutic use. Although massage is historically popular all over Asia, so-called "Asian massage" is often a cover for sensual massage and all that implies. Or it can be a combination of therapeutic massage modalities....

True Chinese massage is therapeutic and associated with acupressure and acupuncture. It is not erotic. (However, some Asian businessmen/women, understanding the American confusion over massage, will often use Acu clinics as covers for brothels. Even smarter businesspeople will use that confusion to lure in customers and give legit massage only.

It all gets pretty confusing.

For me, the most obvious indicator is price. When you see a place with a big sandwich board advertising $25/hour Thai massage, you can be sure nothing illegal is going to happen.

When a place charges $40/hh, you are getting into interesting territory. $50/hh is almost always serious extras. (Rates vary geographically. I know a place in the Valley that is $40/hh and has FS.)

If you ever find a place for $60/hh, empty your ATM and have yourself a time. :)

I'm guessing the extra fees for hh help cover the bribes needed to stay open for more than a week. :)

Hope that helps.

Hokusai
02-06-09, 14:36
I just spoke to my provider who is a Thai. She said that Thai places do not offer FS is due to their strict management policies. They want to stay in business and would not like to get caught in this "dirty" business....Thanks for the info PM. It tends to confirm my original guess. Ditto for what D Goliath said below. The upshot is that FS won't be found at Thai parlors here, and even HJs are the luck of the draw.

Nitescape
02-06-09, 16:09
The majority of Vietnamese MP are located in the OC. There's also a spot in Downey that have Viet providers.

Deez NutGood looks.

I'm not very familiar with Vietnamese women, but I'm guessing they're kinda similar to Thai women?

I can't stand Korean women, and that may sound strange to some, but I'm not even fabricating it. It's a BIG difference to me.

My first choices would be. Chinese, Japanese, Thai.

Nitescape
02-06-09, 16:14
I just spoke to my provider who is a Thai. She said that Thai places do not offer FS is due to their strict management policies. They want to stay in business and would not like to get caught in this "dirty" business. Although they are not encouraged to engage in other 'business relationship' with their regulars, their management suggested to do it someplace else as long as not in the premises of the massage parlor and not in conflict with their work schedule.

If you notice most of the Thai places have either curtains or accordion type doors that has no locking mechanism. Thai girls make a lot of noise when they get f**ked, according to my provider. Once the manager hears that, she will peek and immediately stop her. And you will be booted out as soon as you get dressed.

IMO, since the statement is only coming from her, it does not mean that all of them are. There will be bad Thai apples out there that may go FS. It is just a matter of TOFTT. Find one and post a report. You will be the Christopher Columbus of TMP offering FS. LOL. So everytime we go there, you will be in our mind thanking you, bro.

Peace

PMGood looks on the advice.
That's something to keep in mind, if I get a girl who can speak, or who I can get a little convo/rapport with. In that scenario, I'll bring it up.

Would also ask you, how much you think FS with one of them would run? Also wondering about just oral.

As for the TMP exploring, I MAY do that.

I'm not really a baller, so I don't have money to throw around a lot, but I've been wanting to try the massage thing for just that reason. $50 for a massage and another $20 for a tug, seems like a more economical way for a cheap thrill, depending on how good it is.

Most of the time in this whole providing biz, the girls are so mechanical, that it's just not that much fun to me, and I'd rather go the civvy route.

Vulva Nut
02-06-09, 16:35
If you notice most of the Thai places have either curtains or accordion type doors that has no locking mechanism. Thai girls make a lot of noise when they get f**ked, according to my provider. Once the manager hears that, she will peek and immediately stop her. And you will be booted out as soon as you get dressed.
PM

Pinoy, man, gotta love that: "Thai girls make a lot of noise when they get f**ked." What are you trying to do to us poor horny mongers???!!!!

Nitescape
02-06-09, 16:41
I can't answer your questions, but I do think there is a lot of confusion over Asian ethnicities among mongers. For example, I've seen reports here that talk about KAMPs, where guys will say, "The K-Tech was very cute blah blah blah," and I go to the same place, and the girl tells me she is Chinese. We then talk about China and where she is from, and I am convinced she is Chinese and not Korean. (Why would they lie about that, anyway?)

On the other hand, I've talked to Japanese women who tell me that Korean providers often say they are Japanese, because there is an erotic mysticism about Japanese women that some men seek. (The Geisha myth, I suppose.)

I don't know if that's true, but I do know when I've been to places with Japanese names, the providers have NEVER been Japanese, but they do admit it when asked.

OK, to address your question a little bit: Thai massage is actually a massage modality, like Swedish massage or Balinese massage. It has a long history of therapeutic use. Although massage is historically popular all over Asia, so-called "Asian massage" is often a cover for sensual massage and all that implies. Or it can be a combination of therapeutic massage modalities....

True Chinese massage is therapeutic and associated with acupressure and acupuncture. It is not erotic. (However, some Asian businessmen/women, understanding the American confusion over massage, will often use Acu clinics as covers for brothels. Even smarter businesspeople will use that confusion to lure in customers and give legit massage only.

It all gets pretty confusing.

For me, the most obvious indicator is price. When you see a place with a big sandwich board advertising $25/hour Thai massage, you can be sure nothing illegal is going to happen.

When a place charges $40/hh, you are getting into interesting territory. $50/hh is almost always serious extras. (Rates vary geographically. I know a place in the Valley that is $40/hh and has FS.)

If you ever find a place for $60/hh, empty your ATM and have yourself a time. :)

I'm guessing the extra fees for hh help cover the bribes needed to stay open for more than a week. :)

Hope that helps.Yo thanks for the help!

That made a LOT of sense.

You not only filled in some blanks, but also just helped me on how to pursue the whole thing.

As for the type of girl, I know to some it may seem like a minor difference, but for me Korean girls are a turn-off. Now this is just personal opinion, so nobody get defensive here, but I find Korean girls to be very pushy, and nowhere near as elegant, soft and graceful.

They are just like the Korean shop-owners who say "you buy now".

You know, the kind where you walk in to get a pack of gum, and you're standing there for 10 seconds, and they're staring at you (and I'm not even black). And then they say "what you want", and when you respond "I'm just looking", they say "no look. BUY! ".

THAT is the kind of trait, that I have found in MOST Korean people.

All of them are "Kim Jung I'll" to me.

So for women, the whole appeal of asian women is supposed to be that very soft and feminine and submissive way that they have about them. And I don't find the Korean women to be similar in these regards.

Maybe that's just been MY experience, and I'm not claiming to be a major veteran in this area.

The best most ideal situation, is when the asian girl doesn't front with the thick accent, and pretends she can't communicate. But rather, communicates very well.

I don't even mind if they have an American accent, and aren't as soft and submissive.

They just can't be all pushy.

Just my personal opinion.

Hokusai
02-06-09, 22:38
...So for women, the whole appeal of asian women is supposed to be that very soft and feminine and submissive way that they have about them. And I don't find the Korean women to be similar in these regards...Based on my experience of over 40 years, from Saigon to Seoul, from Tokyo to LA (and San Francisco and NYC) the stereotype of Asian women as submissive is a myth (however, they are soft and very feminine.)

Women in the sex trade are business people, and they do what's necessary to turn a dollar (or a won, a yuan or a yen.) Part of bought sex is indulging in a fantasy, but the fantasy is more elaborate in Asian countries than the US.

I've had Korean women in Seoul who were very charming and accomodating, so I'd say your experience here is part and parcel of American culture; the women you've met have assimilated to the mores of the trade as practiced here. And let's be honest, the AMP trade is a Wal-Mart operation, so you get what you pay for.

If you want the soft, seducative Asian stereotype you have to pay a premium for the experience. I fork out for it once in awhile and if you (or anyone else) want the details send me a private message.

Nitescape
02-10-09, 15:17
Hokusai, just wanted to thank you for the feedback.

Dling
02-11-09, 04:09
I went to this place (ER, advertized heavily on CL) too a few weeks back and my experience was very similar. The girl was prettier and younger than the ones in other places and also speaks pretty good English. The downside is that she answers the phone right in the middle of the massage! She also had a price for every small thing - for some hand relief, touching her, seeing her. All in all, not a good experience for me. I prefer places that may offer less, but at least are friendly and pay attention to you during your time there.


That is where I have been going. I posted this in the Pasadena thread I think a while back. A girl named Michelle worked there and she was pretty nice and young but she left. I've had and seen the ladies you are talking about.

Peorth
02-11-09, 15:12
I can't answer your questions, but I do think there is a lot of confusion over Asian ethnicities among mongers. For example, I've seen reports here that talk about KAMPs, where guys will say, "The K-Tech was very cute blah blah blah," and I go to the same place, and the girl tells me she is Chinese. We then talk about China and where she is from, and I am convinced she is Chinese and not Korean. (Why would they lie about that, anyway?)There are some Korean providers who are from China. I had a cute Korean massage girl last year who was from Yanbian and could speak Korean, Chinese, and English.

There's about 2-3 million ethic Koreans living in China today.

Nitescape
02-13-09, 13:38
Ok here is another question, if you don't mind.

Personally, I have been considering this (AMP), basically because I thought it'd be cheaper, to get my thrill, and I'd get more mileage for my dollar. IF a person is ok with a rubntug, then you come out only with around 70 for damage. Even with head, you'd probably be around the 100 mark.

But for those of you whom are much more interested in FS, why do you go this route?

Assuming you'd be in for around 150 for FS, wouldn't it be easier to go thru a regular escort, where you get to pick out exactly the girl you want, and be guaranteed a sure thing?

Personally I like the adventure thing, so that's another part I like, but many of you seem very hellbent on FS or bust, so it made me curious if I am missing something.

Even if your thing is Asian girls, they have asian escorts too right?

Courtrat
02-13-09, 14:18
Ok here is another question, if you don't mind.

Personally, I have been considering this (AMP), basically because I thought it'd be cheaper, to get my thrill, and I'd get more mileage for my dollar. IF a person is ok with a rubntug, then you come out only with around 70 for damage. Even with head, you'd probably be around the 100 mark.

But for those of you whom are much more interested in FS, why do you go this route?

Assuming you'd be in for around 150 for FS, wouldn't it be easier to go thru a regular escort, where you get to pick out exactly the girl you want, and be guaranteed a sure thing?

Personally I like the adventure thing, so that's another part I like, but many of you seem very hellbent on FS or bust, so it made me curious if I am missing something.

Even if your thing is Asian girls, they have asian escorts too right?


Well, let me tell you why some of us (at least me) go to a legit massage parlor sometimes. It's the thrill of "Can I convince this tech. to give me more than just a tug?" When you go to an AMP, especially one that's been reported on these posts as a "sure thing", you know what's going to happen. You're going to pay your door fee, have FS with a provider, give her a tip and leave with hopefully a smile on your face.
But going to a legit. massage place you don't know what's going to happen. You might get to nail a regular tech if she likes you and the thrill is you can undress her from her regular jeans and shirt. Sometimes techs have scruples and won't give you more than an HJ at first but on your second visit maybe you can talk her into a BBBJ. It's just a high some of us enjoy at times. Plus you know LE is not really cracking down on legit massage places that just give a HJ. They go after places that are obviously brothels with techs wearing skimpy outfits with their tits hanging out.
In short, it is the thrill of the chase.

Hokusai
02-13-09, 21:47
...Assuming you'd be in for around 150 for FS, wouldn't it be easier to go thru a regular escort, where you get to pick out exactly the girl you want, and be guaranteed a sure thing?...Even if your thing is Asian girls, they have asian escorts too right?I'm a regular at certain AMPs so I get FS for 1 bill plus .40 for the "massage." I don't know of any escorts lower than 1.7, and average is 2 bills when I can afford it. The other factor is setting up an appointment at your mutual convenience, but you can always walk into an AMP during regular business hours. That's my view for what it's worth.

Lovemelongtime
02-14-09, 23:18
In short, it is the thrill of the chase.Amen brother. I have a great time pushing the boundaries to see how far I can get. This is especially fun and challenging when you repeat with a provider: you both know how far it went last time so while there are some denials initially it is possible to sometimes make it even further. My current favorite started with saying she's "too shy", but now I've had her shirt up and bra off, had my hand down her pants, and she's comfortable rubbing her nose and cheeks all over the little man.

Besides, I also like getting a pretty good massage before hand.

deezn00
02-20-09, 04:32
I called today to ask for natasha, but they said she quit. anyone know what happend to her?

And does anyone know if you get to pick the two girls for 4 hand or do they pick for you? (which two girls are the best?)

White Kaps
02-20-09, 08:00
Just a heads up, MMS offers incall services at her apartment if you want a massage after business hours. The location is pretty much right around the corner and is a very relaxing environment.

I had an hour long DFK and mutual heavy petting with a provider that I had seen a few times before at the upstairs Thai location. She didn't ask for a tip but I left her. 6

Check the ad on CL and try both of the #s listed. One is the business and the other is her cell.

AMPaddict
02-23-09, 21:51
I like to hit the gym late in the evening, and after a good workout a nice rubdown and a HJ (or more) would be a perfect way to wrap up the day! Unfortunatly none of my fav MP's in the West LA are open that late. I know there is a place in Torrance, but it's a long drive that late and after gym and even longer drive back home when I'm tired and relaxed.

Fellow mongers, anyone knows of a place that would consistently deliver a decent massage + a HJ (or more) in Culver City, MDR, Venice area? A PM with info. Would be much appreciated.

TIA

Nitescape
02-24-09, 14:47
I can definitely relate to what you guys are saying on that. I thought I was the only one who got off on that! I guess it's just like the difference between the girls who advertise for private massage on CL, and are pretty much a sure thing, versus being able to go to an establishment.

Also, with all the fuss lately, I'm unsure what to share and what not. I mean, I see both sides of the issue, but definitely think that some dudes here take things a little overly serious.

Which then reminds me that there are some of us whom hobby because we can, and others whom hobby because they have to, due to lack of social skills.

At any rate, there seem to be some hot establishments which advertise on CL, and they seem like pretty good prospects for fun. I'll probably start with them.

Wagged Gundo
02-25-09, 19:32
So I stopped into a AMP in west holly wood they post on CL a lot since I was in the neighborhood. Paid the mms. 5 for half hour she asked if I wanted asian or latina I asked for a latina. The room was spacious and nice and clean. The provider came in, pretty face, nice large breasts but a little heavier than I like. She asked me to undress and lay down and she started massaging me. It was a decent massage, not massage parlor quality but better than I expected. She asked me to flip over and started playing with my cock. Motioned what I wanted I asked for a BJ and tipped. 5. She took her top off and let me suck on her huge breasts, then slid on the rubber and gave me a fantastic BJ, she really went to town on it taking down her throat and really working the head. She cleaned me up and told me that all the girls are really nice and to come back soon.

Dripper
02-26-09, 12:51
Saw an ad on cl for a "213" phone number, gave a call, and the mms seemed ok on the phone. The place is just on the other side of the 110, and near the office, so I gave it a shot. Got KiKi, a latina with a very pretty face, and nice personality, and a bit thick. Very good f/s. Later she said that a lot more was on the menu, and I teased her that this was a just a come on, and she tried to appear as since as she could. Later spoke with the mms and she complained that business was slow, and she wanted to know what she could do to generate more traffic. I gave her a couple of ideas (but I'm hardly an expert). I report this to the community because I think that there might be an opportunity here, since management seems a bit more customer-oriented than usual. Check the place out.

Bob Delaska
02-26-09, 19:35
West Hollywood where? How much did you tip?

Thanks


So I stopped into a AMP in west holly wood they post on CL a lot since I was in the neighborhood. Paid the mms. 5 for half hour she asked if I wanted asian or latina I asked for a latina. The room was spacious and nice and clean. The provider came in, pretty face, nice large breasts but a little heavier than I like. She asked me to undress and lay down and she started massaging me. It was a decent massage, not massage parlor quality but better than I expected. She asked me to flip over and started playing with my cock. Motioned what I wanted I asked for a BJ and tipped. 5. She took her top off and let me suck on her huge breasts, then slid on the rubber and gave me a fantastic BJ, she really went to town on it taking down her throat and really working the head. She cleaned me up and told me that all the girls are really nice and to come back soon.

Gera 323
02-26-09, 20:03
Saw an ad on cl for a "213" phone number, gave a call, and the mms seemed ok on the phone. The place is just on the other side of the 110, and near the office, so I gave it a shot. Got KiKi, a latina with a very pretty face, and nice personality, and a bit thick. Very good f/s. Later she said that a lot more was on the menu, and I teased her that this was a just a come on, and she tried to appear as since as she could. Later spoke with the mms and she complained that business was slow, and she wanted to know what she could do to generate more traffic. I gave her a couple of ideas (but I'm hardly an expert). I report this to the community because I think that there might be an opportunity here, since management seems a bit more customer-oriented than usual. Check the place out.PM me that number bro.

B Malibu
02-27-09, 03:56
West Hollywood where? How much did you tip?

Thanks
Hey Bob,

Shouldn't you be layin' low right now?? Hahaha... just messin' with ya' buddy!

OriginalEdStone
02-27-09, 19:41
Saw an ad on cl for a "213" phone number, gave a call, and the mms seemed ok on the phone. The place is just on the other side of the 110, and near the office, so I gave it a shot. Got KiKi, a latina with a very pretty face, and nice personality, and a bit thick. Very good f/s. Later she said that a lot more was on the menu, and I teased her that this was a just a come on, and she tried to appear as since as she could. Later spoke with the mms and she complained that business was slow, and she wanted to know what she could do to generate more traffic. I gave her a couple of ideas (but I'm hardly an expert). I report this to the community because I think that there might be an opportunity here, since management seems a bit more customer-oriented than usual. Check the place out.I'd like the 411 too. What was the damage?

Kinger 9988
03-01-09, 07:54
Went to M & A Day Spa, Korean MP at 9472 Firestone in Downey after reading some reviews on another site. First time saw a 40yo Korean (7 looks, 7 performance) that only works on Sunday & Monday, but forgot her name. Paid. 5 for 30 mins & then asked for BJ, but she said next time (not sure if this meant cbj or BBBJ).

Did more research & 2nd time asked for Grace. She is Chinese (also speaks Korean), around 45yo. Asked what I wanted after the 30 mins & told her BJ. She takes off her top & hops on the table between my legs for BBBJ. Good performance, couldn't hold off & didn't tell her when I was blowin so she got some in her month & HJ for the remainder. She didn't really want me to cim, but she didn't say not to, so went for it anyway! Good performance, but not a looker & only good if you like older asian women.

On It 247
03-02-09, 03:05
This is a very good question and something I am interested in as well. Obviously I'm a first time poster, but I wouldn't say i'm new as a hobbyist or anything like that. Never gone FS but not unwilling to try, its just my schedule best allows for after 10 PM. Anyone willing to PM me some info on late nighters would be awesome. Thanks!


I like to hit the gym late in the evening, and after a good workout a nice rubdown and a HJ (or more) would be a perfect way to wrap up the day! Unfortunatly none of my fav MP's in the West LA are open that late. I know there is a place in Torrance, but it's a long drive that late and after gym and even longer drive back home when I'm tired and relaxed.

Fellow mongers, anyone knows of a place that would consistently deliver a decent massage + a HJ (or more) in Culver City, MDR, Venice area? A PM with info. Would be much appreciated.

TIA

OriginalEdStone
03-02-09, 20:18
Looking through the LAW and saw an ad for a place in Lincoln Heights. Google street view show it right across the street from a school, so if it is anything worthwhile, I'm sure it will not last.

Bob Delaska
03-02-09, 22:26
Hey Bob,

Shouldn't you be layin' low right now?? Hahaha... just messin' with ya' buddy!True Malibu - very true. you can take the player out of the game but you cant take the game outta the player.

Purplerain444
03-03-09, 01:44
Any recommendations?

I prefer thin asian or caucasian women.

Thanks

Purplerain444
03-03-09, 01:48
Looking for a hot asian female or caucasian female for a massage while I am in town near Santa Monica.

Bottomend
03-05-09, 02:55
I have a suggestion: RTFF! I don't post alot as I fear that my wife will discover my hobby but I have been lurking these halls for many years. So many in fact that I remember Vlad's original moniker.

There is a ton of info here. Do your homework!

AMPaddict
03-05-09, 21:10
Was driving on Venice this morning passing my fav. HJ shack. Suddenly I see a white unmarked van parked by the curb and a buch of LE in civilian clothing putting on the winfbreaker with "POLICE" written on the back.

Shit. What a waste of tax money. At least 6 cops will waste a whole day to stop guys from getting a hand job. All the while gang-bangers are murdering people in the city. F-ing pigs.

Dripper
03-06-09, 12:49
I earlier reported on a new amp downtown, just on the far side of the 110. Recommended it to a bud who tried it out, and alerted the mms how he was alerted to the place. He reported he was very pleased, and was especially struck by the extra attention he got possibly through mentioning the referral. YMMV, but this may be a really service oriented shop. Haven't gone yet for my follow up visit. FYI.

Vulva Nut
03-06-09, 20:28
Which one?

Jonas Areniias
03-07-09, 14:20
So, my first visit to 5338 was postponed until last weekend. I asked for Mimi and she is sweet and fun as hell, really funny and nice. I will be back, and I know that everyone in the forum loves Mimi and I can tell why, but has anyone had another girl there that they like? She was a little thick for my taste.

AMPaddict
03-10-09, 13:29
Which one?The one where Amy works. Anyone been there since?

Haian
03-11-09, 20:33
I want to go to 5338 sometime soon. I was reading some reports and it seems like it is hit or miss with the girls there. Some legit, some are good. Is there anyone i should try to avoid or a way to get around this?

Pinoy Mclovin
03-11-09, 23:26
I want to go to 5338 sometime soon. I was reading some reports and it seems like it is hit or miss with the girls there. Some legit, some are good. Is there anyone i should try to avoid or a way to get around this?At all cost avoid Usa. She is fine looking but all you can get is just a HJ with no roaming allowed. She will not even reveal some skin for some visual stimulation.

PM

Fbsm Nut
03-13-09, 21:07
Went to one down in Arcadia/Temple City city line. Advertise in Craigslist. No address or anything. Only give address when you are close. Went in and got crappy service from two 40+. One of which complained the whole time and gave crappy service. When I left they said. "next time pretty girls". I was like yeah. Right. It was worse than legit.

Vulva Nut
03-14-09, 01:50
The one where Amy works. Anyone been there since?
Lets hope not. I will try to find out.

Asoi86
03-16-09, 13:07
I just move to LA, and do not know how things work here. I check out 5338 on craigslist, and they said no full service. So what can I expect from that place? I has read some report in this thread, and it seems Mimi is the only one who will do anything.

Any info would be nice. Thank guys

Pinoy Mclovin
03-16-09, 23:22
I just move to LA, and do not know how things work here. I check out 5338 on craigslist, and they said no full service. So what can I expect from that place? I has read some report in this thread, and it seems Mimi is the only one who will do anything.

Any info would be nice. Thank guysYou have to RTFF, man. The forum is a gold mine that directs you to places that offer FS. Or, you have preference for Thai girls to provide you FS. 8th and Union, 7th and Bixel are a couple of places that will provide FS.

If you really want to bone Mimi, you have to make some good vibe with her. YMMV based on how you make your first impression with her. I was lucky to hit it off with her on my first time. There was an offer of FS, but she will not do it in the massage place. She asked me to get a room in a nearby motel and we have to do it on her day off. I have not taken the offer yet because of my relationship situation which makes it impossible to be not spending the night with my GF. Perhaps when my GF and I have a big fight I will take that offer. LOL.

That is my two cents.

PM

Pinoy Mclovin
03-20-09, 17:56
After a morning appointment somewhere in downtown, I decided to visit my ATF Mimi at 5338. It has been a while since I was there.

I realized that I owe her a vibrator that I promised her the last time I saw her, I stopped by at Romantix at Atwater Village to purchase one. I picked up one at a cost of $. 12. As she requested, pink color.

I got to the TMP at my appointment time and was greeted by Mimi. All smiles and she said immediately she missed me. Oh yeah, before she got in I unpacked the vibrator and placed it under the pillow. Fast forward. After a few chit chat, she noticed the bag that came with the vibrator. She remembered.

Without hesitation, I pulled out the package and install the battery. Tested it and she seems to be amazed. I asked her if she can try it in front of me. She agreed. But first, I asked for the massage first. After 20 minutes of good massage, she got herself ready.

Off came the clothes.completely naked. She laid down on the massage table while I was sitting up right next to her. She turned it on and place it above her clit. This is the first time she asked me if I can DATY her. She is really clean way down there. No smell. No taste. But really enjoyable to lick.

After she got really wet, she inserted the vibrator half way. Moaning and heavy breathing. I helped stimulate her by sucking her tits and asked me to bite it. She was really getting into it and me too. I attempted a double penetration but she pushed my pelvis back. Boy I was so close. I can feel my cock's head was partially inside her. She continued thrusting the vibrator and when she was coming close to orgasm, she asked me to make a rapid thrusting which I did. While I was doing that, she grabbed my cock and stroked it too. I think I came first before she did. I spilled my jizz on her leg. I was so concerned that she might scream when she comes.

I looked down there and saw a whitish fluid like a man chowder, dripping just above her anus. Some of it were on the tip of the vibrator.

We got so exhausted and just lay on our backs looking up on the ceiling. We kissed a little later on and she got me hard again. The second time, she put her panty and bra back on but she did a nice job of sucking my nipples and finish me with a simulated CG posish.

She got me to a completion, wringing my cock until it was completely drained of the jizz. Wiped me off clean and gave her my tip of $. 35 cash plus the vibrator for $. 12. Total $. 47. Not bad for 2 pops and an up close and personal female masturbation show.

Mikeim72
03-20-09, 18:31
I've been reading the boards for a long time and have leaned a lot. But this is my first post. So I will do my best.

First off I want to thank Dripper for pointing me in the right direction. I went to the MP near Downtown. I asked to see Hannah, but mms said she was not working. Little disappointed and there was only 1 asian and 1 latina working. I was going to go with the Asian but the latinas tits looked amazing. If you love big natural tits, you will love Michelle. She was mid 20's and tight body, she said she only worked Fridays. Her english was not the best. She started off with a horrible massage, just light touching but she let me rub her legs and slide my hand straight up to heaven. That was enought for me so we pretty much went straight to business. She started with a so so CBJ, then to reverse cg, spun around to cg so I can play with those titties then I bent her over and took her doggie til I blew. Really the only bad thing is she seemed a little rushed with the BJ which I didn't like but she said she had only been working a week. I still had a little time left so I asked her to give me a real massage, so then she actually began to give a really good massage, so not only did I get off but I got a good massage right after!

BenderOver
03-21-09, 11:12
I've been reading the boards for a long time and have leaned a lot. But this is my first post. So I will do my best.

First off I want to thank Dripper for pointing me in the right direction. I went to the MP near Downtown. I asked to see Hannah, but mms said she was not working. Little disappointed and there was only 1 asian and 1 latina working. I was going to go with the Asian but the latinas tits looked amazing. If you love big natural tits, you will love Michelle. She was mid 20's and tight body, she said she only worked Fridays. Her english was not the best. She started off with a horrible massage, just light touching but she let me rub her legs and slide my hand straight up to heaven. That was enought for me so we pretty much went straight to business. She started with a so so CBJ, then to reverse cg, spun around to cg so I can play with those titties then I bent her over and took her doggie til I blew. Really the only bad thing is she seemed a little rushed with the BJ which I didn't like but she said she had only been working a week. I still had a little time left so I asked her to give me a real massage, so then she actually began to give a really good massage, so not only did I get off but I got a good massage right after!

Mike, great post for a new contributor. Highly commendable research done, well written report. My advise for improving your post would be to be a little more descriptive about which amp you went to. PLEASE DO NOT POST THE NAME, ADDRESS, OR PHONE. I'm suggesting that if you know what the amp is traditionally called on this board, continue to refer to it by that nickname, or if it's a new place reviewed, do yourself the honor of nicknaming it. This way, if people start frequenting the place, we'll know what we're all talking about. "MP Downtown" and the tech's stage name is a little too generic for us to be able to confirm if we've hit your place before and know who you're talking about. Thanks, and happy hunting!

Bender

PS: just as an example, I hit up places called: GS on F, A-1, Shanghai, GSS, etc. People in our hobby just know what it is we're talking about, and there's no signage that clearly matches the nickname with the establishment.

Mracuol
03-22-09, 15:09
Mike, great post for a new contributor. Highly commendable research done, well written report. My advise for improving your post would be to be a little more descriptive about which amp you went to. PLEASE DO NOT POST THE NAME, ADDRESS, OR PHONE. I'm suggesting that if you know what the amp is traditionally called on this board, continue to refer to it by that nickname, or if it's a new place reviewed, do yourself the honor of nicknaming it. This way, if people start frequenting the place, we'll know what we're all talking about. "MP Downtown" and the tech's stage name is a little too generic for us to be able to confirm if we've hit your place before and know who you're talking about. Thanks, and happy hunting!

Bender

PS: just as an example, I hit up places called: GS on F, A-1, Shanghai, GSS, etc. People in our hobby just know what it is we're talking about, and there's no signage that clearly matches the nickname with the establishment.VIP Acupuncture
1123 W 7th St
Los Angeles, CA
(213) 593-1388

Mikeim72
03-23-09, 11:42
Mike, great post for a new contributor. Highly commendable research done, well written report. My advise for improving your post would be to be a little more descriptive about which AMP you went to. PLEASE DO NOT POST THE NAME, ADDRESS, OR PHONE. I'm suggesting that if you know what the AMP is traditionally called on this board, continue to refer to it by that nickname, or if it's a new place reviewed, do yourself the honor of nicknaming it. This way, if people start frequenting the place, we'll know what we're all talking about. "MP Downtown" and the tech's stage name is a little too generic for us to be able to confirm if we've hit your place before and know who you're talking about. Thanks, and happy hunting!

Bender

PS: just as an example, I hit up places called: GS on F, A-1, Shanghai, GSS, etc. People in our hobby just know what it is we're talking about, and there's no signage that clearly matches the nickname with the establishment.Thanks Bender. I know what you mean. Guess I need to visit more to get more practice.

Dripper
03-27-09, 12:10
Young Korean Spinner at my current downtown place. Slender, nice butt, bubbly personality, and very attentive. Started with passable but brief massage, little tongue action on my back and neck, a bit of assplay, CBJ, CG and finished (too fast) in RCG. Visited a bit (she's only been here a brief time, still learning English) and then lo and behold, there was a resurrection. Initially, she rang away from it, but then we negotiated a different fee (not quite double) and we're off to the races again. This time a bit more dirty talk (although I'm not sure she knew what she was saying) and finish, after three positions, in doggie. Very nice. A friend has also seen her with a similarly strong review. Go see her: Wed., Tues., and Sat.

BenderOver
03-27-09, 13:49
Young Korean Spinner at my current downtown place. Slender, nice butt, bubbly personality, and very attentive. Started with passable but brief massage, little tongue action on my back and neck, a bit of assplay, CBJ, CG and finished (too fast) in RCG. Visited a bit (she's only been here a brief time, still learning English) and then lo and behold, there was a resurrection. Initially, she rang away from it, but then we negotiated a different fee (not quite double) and we're off to the races again. This time a bit more dirty talk (although I'm not sure she knew what she was saying) and finish, after three positions, in doggie. Very nice. A friend has also seen her with a similarly strong review. Go see her: Wed., Tues., and Sat.

I saw a B.B. advertised with GI on Hx. Both are showing smokin' hot photos. Runs out of Koreatown area on W. Haven't seen them yet. Same operation?

Bender

Hot Lip J
03-28-09, 21:35
Are there any all Hispanic AMP's anymore ?????? Also Fig. is very depression. Worst then a gost town. Off to Fresno.

Overfiend
03-28-09, 21:39
Are there any all Hispanic AMP's anymore? Also Fig. is very depression. Worst then a gost town. Off to Fresno.Let me know as well.

Curiosityla
04-07-09, 02:07
I'm a sucker for trying to find the Thai places that give a little bit more than just a good massage. I'm not into FS, so I love a good rub down and HE. And when this is with a pretty and young Thai girl, so much better than the old Chinese ladies. I tried a place I'd seen advertised on Craigslist a lot recently. Its location looked promising. Two young 20 somethings there, and I went into a room with a closed door (another good sign). No attempt to cover me as the 23 yr old cutie went to work. ALWAYS a good sign when that take that wash cloth and clean the ass along with everything else. Things were looking good. Then the hands brushed the boys and we were off to the races with some very nice ass and ball play. She shrinked when I tried to touch her, but that seems to be the norm with the Thai girls. Got me good and riled up, hard as a rock on the flip and a wash cloth was placed over my rigid member. Hmm? But a sensual chest and nipple massage proceeded, and legs with fingers rubbing balls, but everytime the cloth fell off, she replaced it. Finally, I realize we only have another 5 minutes or so, and I motioned what I really wanted. She insisted she couldn't touch and looked very shy. Mind you, she just had a finger practically up my ass, so talk about a mixed message. I proceeded to work on myself, as she watched in a most astonished and innocent way. In a weird way, it was incredibly hot, but I knew walking out blue balled was not an option. I shot, she cleaned up hastily, and that was it. $39 Friday special, and gave her $20 for the foreplay.

Pimp Hound
04-07-09, 18:51
Where is the location please?

Rr2267
04-07-09, 23:01
First.

Hello to all the vets in this thread!

I went to a great place this afternoon, about 6 latina girls to choose from and all about 6-8 on my scale.

I went with a girl that goes by the name of jessica, great body 34 cs and a latin booty to die for. Great BBBJ and was the best experience I've ever had in a place of fs. She let me finish off mish and doggy. Once a was done she grabbed me a coke and hooked it up with her digits. Great experience.

Best of all this is not a lmp but a HOUSE of pleasure! Thats right a HOUSE! Pm me for the digits.

Dripper
04-18-09, 14:07
This is not the legendary Chanel from the Wood, but rather a nice Latina. Good English, friendly attitude, natural Cs, and a good ass. Took direction well with a cbj, assplay, and nice mish finish. Spoke with her some afterward, and said that the back door might be open (but that could be just promotion). Standard fees for house and Chanel. MMS says business is slow so this place may still present opportunities for the downtown market.

Pleaser09
04-20-09, 20:11
This is not the legendary Chanel from the Wood, but rather a nice Latina. Good English, friendly attitude, natural Cs, and a good ass. Took direction well with a cbj, assplay, and nice mish finish. Spoke with her some afterward, and said that the back door might be open (but that could be just promotion). Standard fees for house and Chanel. MMS says business is slow so this place may still present opportunities for the downtown market.Dripper can you PM the info? I haven't hit any downtown MPs.

I mainly do biz in the valley and once in south l.a.

That Dude6969
04-21-09, 21:06
Does anyone know if OK acu on whittier blvd is worth going? i see it when i drive to work. I would like to avoid TOFTT if someone has some info on it?

Thanks Stay safe out there

Automatic Jack
04-22-09, 05:44
blck, very good info no your post.

Am sure most the people on the board will apprecaite it.

Watermelon
04-22-09, 21:13
Does anyone know if OK acu on whittier blvd is worth going? i see it when i drive to work. I would like to avoid TOFTT if someone has some info on it?

Thanks Stay safe out thereI did, 2 times, worth it, try.

Ramon Ayala
04-23-09, 23:33
I as a latina there the other night man, that chick is hot. The mamasan gave me some Asian chick name Bebe she's was a solid 8 in the body. Nice finish.

Raddar
04-26-09, 03:05
Was there 4 months ago. 3 latinas to choose from.

Usual menu.

Good

Bigdan
04-27-09, 14:40
Where is this OK acu? I go to a few on whittier blvd, but I just don't memorize the names, maybe if You tell me the name of the BIG cross street, I might be able to help you!


Does anyone know if OK acu on whittier blvd is worth going? i see it when i drive to work. I would like to avoid TOFTT if someone has some info on it?

Thanks Stay safe out there

Watermelon
04-28-09, 05:13
Where is this OK acu? I go to a few on whittier blvd, but I just don't memorize the names, maybe if You tell me the name of the BIG cross street, I might be able to help you!Near Bank of America.

Bigdan
04-28-09, 17:27
Oh, I see!

Yeah, they are pretty good!

Actually, that is one of my favorite!

They have some nice good looking K-girls in there!

Even the S-girls are better looking then the other few mp's.

I know the Mama-san (manager).

If you need some more info, pm me!

Baby Penn
05-11-09, 22:23
I've been to this place twice now. Both times, no luck.
First time got a girl named Candy. She did the ass rub, ball teased, massage around the shaft but kept me covered with a small towel. At the end - not even a hj.

Second time, got Faye (or something like that). Much cuttier than the previous girl. Same exact story... no HE.

Anyone have any luck at this place?

Faye did tell me to go to another place where her friend works. This place is on the same street and said, "customers who goes there don't come back here." Sound promising but I don't have the dough to toftt. So if anyone wants the address pm me and report back.


I'm a sucker for trying to find the Thai places that give a little bit more than just a good massage. I'm not into FS, so I love a good rub down and HE. And when this is with a pretty and young Thai girl, so much better than the old Chinese ladies. I tried a place I'd seen advertised on Craigslist a lot recently. Its location looked promising. Two young 20 somethings there, and I went into a room with a closed door (another good sign). No attempt to cover me as the 23 yr old cutie went to work. ALWAYS a good sign when that take that wash cloth and clean the ass along with everything else. Things were looking good. Then the hands brushed the boys and we were off to the races with some very nice ass and ball play. She shrinked when I tried to touch her, but that seems to be the norm with the Thai girls. Got me good and riled up, hard as a rock on the flip and a wash cloth was placed over my rigid member. Hmm? But a sensual chest and nipple massage proceeded, and legs with fingers rubbing balls, but everytime the cloth fell off, she replaced it. Finally, I realize we only have another 5 minutes or so, and I motioned what I really wanted. She insisted she couldn't touch and looked very shy. Mind you, she just had a finger practically up my ass, so talk about a mixed message. I proceeded to work on myself, as she watched in a most astonished and innocent way. In a weird way, it was incredibly hot, but I knew walking out blue balled was not an option. I shot, she cleaned up hastily, and that was it. $39 Friday special, and gave her $20 for the foreplay.

Pimp Hound
05-12-09, 04:57
Hey Penn are,

These girls young and hot? Where is the locale? I dig teasing massage by young providers. I gve them guidance on how to use their hands which could lead to HE.

Bigdan
05-13-09, 14:13
Yesterday, I went to OK Acu. and something was wrong!

It was totally new management, and new girls!

Not even 1 person was the same.

I went there last week, and everything was OK!

But suddenly yesterday?

They gave me a bad massage, and she (the lady) was asking if I wanted anywhere else to be massaged! So I told her down there, but she wouldn't, and since I did NOT offer any money for that, there were no more discussion about that. I put my pants on and left the building even without tipping the chick!

I think they were under survaillance or maybe they were the actual LE's!

So, watch out everybody!

Jonas Areniias
05-16-09, 01:24
Anyone know of any late night Mp's (A or L doesn't matter)? I would go over to the 4 hands in Pasadena but I had no luck there. I posted this on this thread and the LA massage parlor thread. It's late night and I am jones-ing!

Watermelon
05-23-09, 19:10
Yesterday, I went to OK Acu. and something was wrong!

It was totally new management, and new girls!

Not even 1 person was the same.

I went there last week, and everything was OK!

But suddenly yesterday?

They gave me a bad massage, and she (the lady) was asking if I wanted anywhere else to be massaged! So I told her down there, but she wouldn't, and since I did NOT offer any money for that, there were no more discussion about that. I put my pants on and left the building even without tipping the chick!

I think they were under survaillance or maybe they were the actual LE's!

So, watch out everybody!Oh My God. Thats was my favorite place.

That Dude6969
05-26-09, 21:57
Oh My God. Thats was my favorite place.Just to let you guys know they have been close the past couple of times I have been there. There is definitely something going down there.

Watermelon
05-28-09, 19:06
Just to let you guys know they have been close the past couple of times I have been there. There is definitely something going down there.We are talking about montebello one right?

Bigdan
05-29-09, 17:55
The "OK", next of B.O.A.

We are talking about montebello one right?

Staple
05-30-09, 17:43
After reading about this place I went to try it out. MMS asked for .5 for 1/2 hr massage but I said I was frequent customer and said I pay 40 so she accepted. Asked for Michelle but MMS said she was not working that day. Anyways Mina (around 30 yr old) walks in and she was quite attractive actually like a 7. I undress and she gives me an OK massage for 10-12 mins with some very light brushing of the boys. I turn around and I ask her to undress and she asked me what I want. She quotes 1 but we settle for 0.8. She undresses and continues to massage me for another 5-7 mins before starting to blow and then rides me to heaven.

Overall a very good experience

Staple
05-30-09, 18:06
Anyone know of good table showers place with HE?

Watermelon
06-01-09, 04:55
The "OK", next of B.O.A.My god, any update please let us know

Bigdan
06-01-09, 15:04
There is one that I know, they do a really good "real" massage, a table shower and a Happy Ending!
It is on Temple St. & Alvarado!
It is called "Moon" something!
Try it!
And for SENIORS, if you pm me I will tell you which one to choose!

Anyone know of good table showers place with HE?

Waytogo
06-01-09, 20:49
Hey Big Dan,
What was the damage? And what would you rate the talent there?

Bigdan
06-02-09, 13:03
Depends on how long you want to stay!
I usually take the 1 hour w/hot oil and the table shower!
It is about $70,00 or $75,00 = tips ($30,00-$40,00)

Hey Big Dan,
What was the damage? And what would you rate the talent there?

AMPaddict
06-11-09, 17:37
Shery is no longer at the usual hangout. Was greeted by a plumpy younger girl "Rose". Thought "what the hell lets give her a try". The massage skills are not even close to Shery's, but HJ was nice, in fact very nice. Guess it will do for now, until I find someone new.

Bigdan
07-22-09, 16:52
I went back to the "OK" Acu. to give it try one more time, and guess what? I think the same old owner is back, so it means they are back for the F.S.

Watermelon
07-23-09, 22:43
I went back to the "OK" Acu. to give it try one more time, and guess what? I think the same old owner is back, so it means they are back for the F.S.Really good news man, thanks a lot.

Dling
08-19-09, 23:20
This thread seems to have slowed down, so I will post my recent AMP experiences - thai and chinese. In general, any thai or chinese MP that advertises on craigslist and does NOT explicitly say non-sensual/therapeutic will offer relief by hand at the end. The expected tip for this seems to be 0.4. The thai women are often younger than the chinese, but don't like roaming hands at all.

Anyway, I will post my reports in separate posts.

Dling
08-20-09, 13:51
Tried this place on Pico (close to Crenshaw) that advertises often on craigslist. Got an ok massage from a young but thick girl. It seems that trannys are their specialty and that is ok. But the girl massaging me said that she is a lesbian. It is no fun getting a massage knowing that the masseuse probably hates what she is doing. But she did end relieving me with her hands and I tipped the usual 0.4.

Dling
08-21-09, 12:46
Went once to the Thai massage on S.M. Blvd and Edgemont. The girl I got was young and big (I like that). I like a hard massage and hers was ok. She used her hands on me at the end and for that I tipped her 0.4. The massage itself was about 50/hr. However, absolutely no roaming was allowed. I like to roam a little at least (who doesn't) - that is what makes going to a massage different from getting off at home.

Hos Def
08-22-09, 15:34
Hey guys, does anyone know where I can get a massage at a provider's home / apartment? I'm tired of my usual AMP and I'd appriciate any help.

Thx fellas

Zauriel
08-23-09, 12:52
I have been craving a sexy latina lately. And also have been on a bit of a massage binge. So I was inspired to cruise the el classificados for a part-timer/non-pro/bargain find! Even though I don't speak Spanish, I found I could weed through and spot those girls perhaps offering more (that weren't scams).

And I found Janet. She offered an hour massage for 70. In her photos she wore a bikini.

I emailed her in English and she responded that I should call her. I did. And she speaks enough to give me directions. I arrived at her private apartment expecting to find her wearing sweats, but she was decked out in tiny tight shorts showing off her perfectly thick Latina legs and a little bustier. She was dressed for fun. She is probably mid to late 40's, in awesome shape for her age and kind of looks like Victoria in the IE in the face a little.

She offered a shower, I took one, thinking the whole time "Please let me talk her into FS" and afterward entered her bedroom, which had a massage table set up next to her bed.

Next, she sat on the bed and told me she had several services: hour accupressure massage for 70, massage and HE for 100 and everything for 120. I hopped on the 120 like Misha Barton on a martini at last call.

She took off her shorts and bustier, revealing a thong and bra, told me she would give me a great 40-minute massage and afterward, we would do "everything." What ensued was a lame 10 minute massage, but she did climb all over me, and the feeling of her soft, smooth skin and meaty legs and ass worked me up. On the flip she started some nipple sucking and stripped off the bra and thong and that's where the rules started. No BBBJ. No kissing. This is a big downer for me. She snaps on a condom and starts a CBJ for 20 seconds, then lays down on the table for mish.

Bang her there for a while, but the small space is awkward and my dude starts losing interest. She flips over on all fours and demands doggie. But I'm not ready. I ask for more BJ. Off with the condom and she sprays this foam alcohol cleaner on my dude. Very sanitary, but he shrivels up. She won't BBBJ and won't kiss to get me hard again and jumps back on the table for doggy. I ask if we can go to the bed, and after a discussion (not helping Limpy McLimperson) she agrees and puts a towel there. She jumps up doggy again and I tell her I'm not ready. She then says I have to hurry. The hour is up. I tell her it has only been 25 minutes.

Anyway, I try my best but it doesn't work out. It's obvious she is not at all into me. She offers to finish me by HJ, which I'm rarely into and especially not for 120, but she does a decent job keeping her mouth very close, which is helpful and I finish all over myself, which if you have read my reviews on other boards, you know I am not a fan.

She offers another shower, which I take. During dressing, we chit chat and she apologizes for her performance. She is really stressed out and dealing with car problems and whatnot and promises that if I return, next time will be better and she let me take a photo of her awesome ass, which I have posted for your pleasure.

If I can find some blue V to help me out, I will indeed return.

Here is her ad:

http://elclasificado.com/salud/sobadores-masajistas-475926.aspx

Cebuano
08-26-09, 19:55
Tried this place on Pico (close to Crenshaw) that advertises often on craigslist. Got an ok massage from a young but thick girl. It seems that trannys are their specialty and that is ok. But the girl massaging me said that she is a lesbian. It is no fun getting a massage knowing that the masseuse probably hates what she is doing. But she did end relieving me with her hands and I tipped the usual 0.4.Hey Dling,

I went to this place recently too and I think it was the same girl. Didn't realize they specialize in ladyboys. The girl was wearing overalls and a long-sleeved t-shirt. Not exactly a turn-on but she gave me an awesome massage and did hand release for.5

One thing's been getting to me: when I asked at the beginning whether she provides 'extras' she told me to go to Thai Town on Western and Hollywood, which as far as I can tell is a Thai Food joint. Was she just pulling my leg or is there something else going on at this place?

Hokusai
08-26-09, 22:30
...In general, any thai or chinese MP that advertises on craigslist and does NOT explicitly say non-sensual/therapeutic will offer relief by hand at the end. The expected tip for this seems to be 0.4. The thai women are often younger than the chinese, but don't like roaming hands at all... That's good to know Dling. When the Thai parlors opened several years ago you couldn't get ANY action at all, so after trying three different places over the course of a year I swore off them. But if they've come to their senses and are offering hjs, that's better than nothing.

Dling
08-27-09, 02:11
Scoured craigslist for a massage that could lead to a little more. Saw an ad for asian+latina massage on Reseda which gave the right signals and the price was right too. When I got to the place I learned that the "massage parlor" is a closet (not kidding) hidden in a corner mall. Ivette, a latina, was in her 40s and started a lame massage. Within a few minutes she flipped me over and she asked if I wanted an "all over" massage. This was more than I planned for, but I am not saying no. Ivette starts to go down on me (after covering me). I have a little difficulty into really getting in the mood mainly because of the depressing environment, and her unenthusiastic manner. I quickly went to mish, followed by doggie, and finished as soon as I could. The massage was 40/hh + 80 tip.

I learned a lesson from all this. When I am at a legit place, I hope for HE. When I get HE, I hope for a little more. But this FS is actually a lot less satisfying than a proper hour long massage with a smiling, pretty girl. Next time, I will take care of myself before heading out for a massage!

Dling
08-27-09, 02:38
One thing's been getting to me: when I asked at the beginning whether she provides 'extras' she told me to go to Thai Town on Western and Hollywood, which as far as I can tell is a Thai Food joint. Was she just pulling my leg or is there something else going on at this place?She probably meant that whole section of LA centered on Hollywood between Normandie and Western. That stretch is called Thai Town (and Little Armenia).

Hokusai
08-27-09, 10:46
...when I asked at the beginning whether she provides 'extras' she told me to go to Thai Town on Western and Hollywood, which as far as I can tell is a Thai Food joint. Was she just pulling my leg or is there something else going on at this place?She wasn't just pulling your leg. There is a parlor on Western just North of Hollywood Blvd. She probably meant that place.

Dling
08-28-09, 02:23
I tried this thai massage place on 8th and Hoover (search craigslist) a couple of weeks back and was surprised. This place is on the 2nd floor of an apartment complex and I initially thought that this meant more than massage. But I was wrong - this is a legit massage place and I don't think anything else is offered. But the reason this is worth reporting is that the girls are 9/10. I mean young, friendly, and very, very cute (nothing at all like the typical thai massage). And they have great massage skills. If you want only a massage, I highly recommend this place.

Courtrat
09-07-09, 18:00
Last week went to a sometimes legit., sometimes full service massage place in Eagle Rock. Seniors can PM me. I like the place cause it's never the same. Sometimes good looking Chinese chicks in their 30's and sometimes you just want a good rub cause the provider is fugly. They always give you the HJ though.
Well, I hit the jackpot last week with a late 30's Chinese woman that gave me BBBJ and I finished in her mouth. She even opened her mouth and showed me my jizz. No swallowing though as she ran to the bathroom. Her name was Juju I think. I am going to try to get her digits next time cause the turnover in this place is mighty high.
$.40 for 30 mins. and $.80 for tip. I tipped a little more because she really went all out otherwise I would've given her only $.60.

Neone
09-09-09, 20:13
Hey. I just found this place. I'm a low profile (ok, lurker) on HX. And have been saddened to see that as it gets further and further away from the old TZ. There's a lack of info on MPs and FBSM.

Has anyone seen this girl on CL?


Yummy Yummy Massage.
I offer an amazing session with combined modalities of Swedish, Esalan and Sports Massage..
You'll Love it! ! Takes place at my house, in a private room on a table. Clean Comfortable sheets.

Positive energy! ***

$60/hr
$100/1.5hr
you're welcome to tip. ;|)

New schedule.
Thursday to Sunday- will be out of town.
Next week Monday -Thursday Clients after 6pm-10pm
Friday- Sunday- 8am-8pm
Have a beautiful day!!

(208)721-2632
Pic attached below.
She advertises in the Theraputic section.

Also - are there any suggestions for AMPs or FBSM providers? I don't always want full-service - and sometimes what I really want is an insanely hot girl to touch and be touched by for an hour. I've been to one AMP a while ago - the mamasan was named Mimi. I saw a girl named Star who was gorgeous (though she spoke in a kind of fake baby voice). But I think they closed down.

I'm a white guy - and sometimes that makes a difference at AMPs who prefer Asian clients. I'd love to find a place with genuinely young, pretty girls. I prefer white/Asian.

There's a place near Culver City that advertised on CL - it was on Overland, just north of Venice, tucked up in a little stripmall. They had decent little rooms, 40/hr - the service was good, the massages were good - and they always ended with a manual finish - but the ladies were older and not particularly attractive - they dressed in conservative pants - so I never really felt the inclination to ask for more. I don't know if they're still in business after the new regulations went into effect.

Now I'm hoping to find something in KTown, or closer to downtown.

This place seems like a good, solid community. Thanks for any tips or suggestions.

Dling
09-16-09, 02:31
Tried this new CMP just north of the start of the 110 in Pasadena (address in CL). Apparently, they have been open only for a few weeks. The place includes a free table shower. They had disposable jock straps to be worn in the shower but I didn't wear those. Anyway, I left very disappointed with this place. Not only did I not get any hand action, but even the massage was through a sheet. WTF?

Alkalinedio
09-16-09, 14:12
There is a spot called Sophie's Spa, in the city of Bell Gardens.

100% FS, just play it cool like usual until she asks... been there dozen times.

Atlantic Ave. between Firestone and Florence.

Good luck,

AD

Member #4870
09-16-09, 22:22
Alka, you should be a more discreet.

Good looking out on the discretion!

Mracuol
09-17-09, 04:18
There is a spot called Sophie's Spa, in the city of Bell Gardens.

100% FS, just play it cool like usual until she asks. Been there dozen times.

Atlantic Ave. between Firestone and Florence.

Good luck,

ADYeah dude. Keep it on the down low! The cops have no idea this places exists because they advertise in all the escort rags and adult sections of the free newspapers and they have reviews with numbers, names and address in all the massage parlor review sites. Plus the cops will never be able to figure it out when they go their off duty for some free massages and an envelope full of cash. Just keep it on the down low dude and the cops are never going to find out anything about this place unless they read the most precious spot about MPs in the world. This forum.

Lahobbyiest
09-17-09, 21:41
She is cute and sexy!

I called her once and she went crazy on me over the phone.

Then she said "You are some kind of XXXXXX aren't you!"

I thought is was some kind of joke until she hung up.

Then she called me back with some guy in the background.

Then I hung up on her.

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Alkalinedio
09-17-09, 22:19
Yeah dude. Keep it on the down low! The cops have no idea this places exists because they advertise in all the escort rags and adult sections of the free newspapers and they have reviews with numbers, names and address in all the massage parlor review sites. Plus the cops will never be able to figure it out when they go their off duty for some free massages and an envelope full of cash. Just keep it on the down low dude and the cops are never going to find out anything about this place unless they read the most precious spot about MPs in the world. This forum.Ok ok! Dudes. My bad.

Thought I was helping some brothas out.

I'll keep it quiet.

Peace

Pumphusk
09-18-09, 13:57
This woman is insane... and not in a good way!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2guXeEMPR74&ytsession=o7H8wHcHFJqpBeNuJEwbODPRYl0_WT7-fc31SXjN_3Dem0BuU6PYl3lLnmoSYfyBwSBHFDLINTUxXKPy7xxl-1WlrSn4oCIOCZDqDoIfHRm-8dXq2qIaRwa1m7-4LDSZoccwdWdc7wZIsvxVDSHMZOwWLo0XvdXAkjJu7KoPu-zBp1q5kFvUp_2sVsEvNY6fDXo_0_VDz-rHsyT91Qkvo7fQeilFunzJ_gW9oibGnq7gBnAh7QMJjq8F87KnOoqQewmOY4PXMKLcy1O6k4mo-JQm3WbvmAv18Gy_UwozFFVP3NQIbxwF_M0P7gvlwquL


She is cute and sexy!

I called her once and she went crazy on me over the phone.

Then she said "You are some kind of nigga aren't you!"

I thought is was some kind of joke until she hung up.

Then she called me back with some guy in the background.

Then I hung up on her.

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Mphelper909
09-18-09, 14:35
This woman is insane... and not in a good way!

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Weissman 25
09-25-09, 14:51
5338 aka (K. Karn) is opened with a new name.

I just want to confirm is it already legit or still does R&T?

Dling
09-28-09, 04:18
5338 aka (K. Karn) is opened with a new name.

I just want to confirm is it already legit or still does R&T?I was there recently. If anything, they are less legit than before! But it seems they are extra careful now, as they kept asking me if I had been there before.

Roy Slasher
10-02-09, 03:24
Hey everyone, I'm new here. I'm digging the whole community aspect of this place. I'm new to the whole scene and wanted to post my exp and maybe get advice.

Anyway, I went to this Thai place on vermont, near la brea. Been there twice now. Fantastic massage, nice ass rubdown, and teased my area a bit; but that's pretty much it.

The girls are young, and 7+

I'm not sure about any extras or if YMMV, the first time I went the girl seemed a bit shy, but we ended up having a nice conversation. The second one was a lot sexier and touched the head of my johnson when rubbing my thighs a few times; but that was it.

I'm not sure if I'm supposed to ask for the extras or they offer them or how that works. I'm pretty sure this place is ran by the same people that run the 5338 place, not 100% though. I'm thinking of going to the 5338 based on the great things I've heard.

Vengo
10-02-09, 22:29
Hey everyone, I'm new here. I'm digging the whole community aspect of this place. I'm new to the whole scene and wanted to post my exp and maybe get advice.

Anyway, I went to this Thai place on vermont, near la brea. Been there twice now. Fantastic massage, nice ass rubdown, and teased my area a bit; but that's pretty much it.

The girls are young, and 7+

I'm not sure about any extras or if YMMV, the first time I went the girl seemed a bit shy, but we ended up having a nice conversation. The second one was a lot sexier and touched the head of my johnson when rubbing my thighs a few times; but that was it.

I'm not sure if I'm supposed to ask for the extras or they offer them or how that works. I'm pretty sure this place is ran by the same people that run the 5338 place, not 100% though. I'm thinking of going to the 5338 based on the great things I've heard.The Thai places are almost always legit. All rub and no tug. The rub is good, though.

B Malibu
10-02-09, 22:44
Hey everyone, I'm new here. I'm digging the whole community aspect of this place. I'm new to the whole scene and wanted to post my exp and maybe get advice.

Anyway, I went to this Thai place on vermont, near la brea. Been there twice now. Fantastic massage, nice ass rubdown, and teased my area a bit; but that's pretty much it.

The girls are young, and 7+

I'm not sure about any extras or if YMMV, the first time I went the girl seemed a bit shy, but we ended up having a nice conversation. The second one was a lot sexier and touched the head of my johnson when rubbing my thighs a few times; but that was it.

I'm not sure if I'm supposed to ask for the extras or they offer them or how that works. I'm pretty sure this place is ran by the same people that run the 5338 place, not 100% though. I'm thinking of going to the 5338 based on the great things I've heard.
Welcome to the site!

Roy Slasher
10-03-09, 01:16
Welcome to the site!Thanks. :)

Btw, anyone have any suggestion of an A/AMPs or asian masseuses to visit? Pref. in the Hollywood/Silverlake area, doesn't have to be there though. I'm contemplating going to the 5338 place or inquiring more into an asian escort. I'm willing to TOFTT if any of you have been contemplating a place to visit.

Dling
10-03-09, 02:04
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to ask for the extras or they offer them or how that works. I'm pretty sure this place is ran by the same people that run the 5338 place, not 100% though. I'm thinking of going to the 5338 based on the great things I've heard.In my experience, whatever was offered was without asking. But maybe it is different for different people. At any rate, a casual touch from you should be more than enough. Read some of my reports for other Thai places.

Hokusai
10-04-09, 20:30
Thanks. :)

Btw, anyone have any suggestion of an A/AMPs or asian masseuses to visit? Pref. in the Hollywood/Silverlake area, doesn't have to be there though...I can't help you with Hollywood/Silverlake since the Westside is my familiar stomping ground, but I can recommend Oriental 2 Massage on Broadway in Santa Monica west of Linclon and east of Third (fyi, Oriental Massage 1 used to be on 6th Street but it closed,) and Sun Massage on Linclon between Santa Monica and Colorado. Full service available at both venues, ladies average a 7 and are mostly in thier 30s with an ocasional 20-something babe on duty.

Good luck.

Eddtool
10-17-09, 00:35
Does anybody know the "best girls" (hj) at the moon place on temple st.?

PM me Ive gotten a legit one hour from Sunny there.

Eddtool
10-17-09, 00:57
There is one that I know, they do a really good "real" massage, a table shower and a Happy Ending!

It is on Temple St. & Alvarado!

It is called "Moon" something!

Try it!

And for SENIORS, if you pm me I will tell you which one to choose!I visited this place this evening no hj just legit massage girls name was suny fairly good looking.

Which ones are the best?

Eddtool
10-17-09, 01:00
There is one that I know, they do a really good "real" massage, a table shower and a Happy Ending!
It is on Temple St. & Alvarado!
It is called "Moon" something!
Try it!
And for SENIORS, if you pm me I will tell you which one to choose!PM me please, this place was clean and discreet.

Freddiex13
10-18-09, 16:46
Hey everyone, I'm new here. I'm digging the whole community aspect of this place. I'm new to the whole scene and wanted to post my exp and maybe get advice.

Anyway, I went to this Thai place on vermont, near la brea. Been there twice now. Fantastic massage, nice ass rubdown, and teased my area a bit; but that's pretty much it.

The girls are young, and 7+

I'm not sure about any extras or if YMMV, the first time I went the girl seemed a bit shy, but we ended up having a nice conversation. The second one was a lot sexier and touched the head of my johnson when rubbing my thighs a few times; but that was it.

I'm not sure if I'm supposed to ask for the extras or they offer them or how that works. I'm pretty sure this place is ran by the same people that run the 5338 place, not 100% though. I'm thinking of going to the 5338 based on the great things I've heard.Where is this place?

Vermont and LaBrea run parallel to each other.

Roy Slasher
10-19-09, 12:48
Where is this place?

Vermont and LaBrea run parallel to each other.I meant Beverly; It's on Vermont and 2nd. I don't remember the number. It's right next to a Burger King, across the street from the shopping center with the AutoZone.

Mphelper909
11-16-09, 02:18
http://www.massageanywhere.com/profile.asp?start=56


http://www.massageanywhere.com/profile.asp?start=56

Haian
11-17-09, 07:23
http://www.massageanywhere.com/profile.asp?start=56

http://www.massageanywhere.com/profile.asp?start=56Says no matching report, try again.

Mandm1107
11-26-09, 14:46
That place is pretty convenient to the Metro cuz parking around there sucks during rush hour. Just get off at the Beverly and Vermont stop on the Red line and walk south a couple of blocks.

Oofo123
11-30-09, 20:43
Hey everyone!

I'm new here. I decided to go to a massage place on James M. Wood in between Westmoreland and Vermont. I didn't get asked anything after massage was done. Has anyone else been there? The girl touched the head of my johnson once but that was it.

Dling
12-26-09, 05:25
Hey everyone!

I'm new here. I decided to go to a massage place on James M. Wood in between Westmoreland and Vermont. I didn't get asked anything after massage was done. Has anyone else been there? The girl touched the head of my johnson once but that was it.I think I recognize this place from their ads on CL. It was on my list of AMPs to check out but now I will skip this.

Thanks!

Primo84
12-31-09, 18:15
Good day. I have seen a half filipina/latina girl who lives out near Universal Studios. Seen her maybe 4 times now. She provides decent back rubs. Lets you touch. She is only 80 for an hour.

if more info is needed, let me know.

ps - I also know a geeat one in the Woodland Hills area.

Leche
01-03-10, 04:06
80? That's a deal!

Is she hot though?


Good day. I have seen a half filipina/latina girl who lives out near Universal Studios. Seen her maybe 4 times now. She provides decent back rubs. Lets you touch. She is only 80 for an hour.

if more info is needed, let me know.

ps - I also know a geeat one in the Woodland Hills area.

Primo84
01-04-10, 07:00
80? That's a deal!

Is she hot though?I don't think she was hot. On a scale from 1-10. I'd say she is a 4. She has a good body and gives great rubs. For $80 for an hour. I'd say it's a steal.

Redon1
01-11-10, 03:04
I visited a Thai Massage place on Hollywood Blvd today. Great massage for $35/hr. Had to wear little short pants. No "extras" at all. No walls between, just curtains.

Dling
02-03-10, 03:07
In my experience, the places on Hollywood Bl (at least in the heart of Thai town, between Normandie and Western) are all legit. You will have better luck south of Hollywood or on Vermont.


I visited a Thai Massage place on Hollywood Blvd today. Great massage for $35/hr. Had to wear little short pants. No "extras" at all. No walls between, just curtains.

Mandm1107
02-04-10, 10:18
Drove to 7th/Hartford for a massage, the place is closed. It was near that Hotel on 7th street. My downtown places are running out, anyone got anything new??

Seasicktex
04-29-10, 18:39
Does anyone know of a good AMP in the AV/Lancaster/Palmdale area. I have been to 1 which was just a rub-n-tug off ave I & 20th w. Anyone known of another one that will do fs?

Jroomer
07-08-10, 01:41
Hi everybody,

This is my first post. Glad to be here. I'm sort of new to all this and so am just trying to get my toes wet.

I got the first professional massage of my life recently. Not quite sure if we can post the names of establishments here (I think so, but I'll err on the side of caution and avoid it for now). Anyway, it was at the Sherman Oaks location of probably the most well-known nationwide spa/massage place. The massage and amenities were great, the masseuse was in her late 30s, with shoulder length dark hair. Pretty enough, but she was clearly hired for her massage skills and not her body. Anyway, long story short, good legit massage but no extras. I didn't ask for anything (like I said I'm new at all this), but it had to have been clear to her that I was interested in a HE from what was happening under the towel.

Did I have any chance at a high-end place like this? I didn't go there only to receive extras, so I'm not disappointed with the nice massage and service I did get. But it would have been nice. Any recommendations for good places in the valley?

Roddercake
10-16-10, 03:55
Hey guys, first post here. LOTS of great info on this board, which I'm enjoying soaking up! Still trying to figure out the etiquette (is there an FAQ, so let me know how I'm doing. .

I went today to the Thai place on Vermont by the Burger King. Some cute girls there, though the one who gave me the massage was just average.45 for an hour's massage, and I got an HJ for 50 extra. Nothing else on the menu. The girl was friendly and fun, and the place had a nice vibe.

Are there FS massage places in the Hollywood / K-Town area? Or do I need to check out WeHo for that?

Roddercake

HeartofaLion
11-23-10, 17:53
Alka, thanks a lot. I will check this place.


There is a spot called Sophie's Spa, in the city of Bell Gardens.

100% FS, just play it cool like usual until she asks. Been there dozen times.

Atlantic Ave. Between Firestone and Florence.

Good luck,

AD

Sexy5101
10-07-11, 21:44
http://laexpress.org/ads/famale-escorts-3/

TheStoatman
10-20-11, 11:07
http://www.bodyworkgirl.com

JHeezy
10-21-11, 13:18
Anybody know if Mimi is still at 5338?

Marcath
01-28-21, 10:47
I'd be interested in some FBSM recommendations.

Maybe we can revive this.

PriscillaM
01-28-21, 13:28
I'd be interested in some FBSM recommendations.

Maybe we can revive this.Had no idea there was a thread for this. Here is one to avoid:

https://www.craigserotica.com/los-angeles/body-rubs-independents/26672.htm

She has been around since for sure like 2008. The last time I saw her was in like 2013-14 and a friend of mine had just croaked from lou gehrig's. She told me that some ex boyfriend of hers also had it and called her to let her know that he was probably going tits up in under a year. She was like, well, he was kind of a sorry piece of shit anyways. Her body is kind of weird, like she lost a lot of weight. Her tits are bad, her pussy is not for public viewing and her dick work is fascist quality (28 executive orders! The pics are her and she is decent looking, but she has aged since then for sure. She is just a psycho. But I think she only asks for like 160-200.

Marcath
01-31-21, 13:35
Had no idea there was a thread for this. Here is one to avoid:Yeah, I did not know either, it was buried in the list

Not the info I was hoping for but definitely good to know.

Thanks.

Santooki
01-31-21, 13:47
Yeah, I did not know either, it was buried in the list

Not the info I was hoping for but definitely good to know.

Thanks.At starlet_xo and at bellaroyalspa on IG have been on my radar for a bit, but schedules just haven't lined up personally. Might be worth a look. Let us know your report if you partake.

Member #6569
02-01-21, 02:59
At starlet_xo and at bellaroyalspa on IG have been on my radar for a bit, but schedules just haven't lined up personally. Might be worth a look. Let us know your report if you partake.I saw Starlet_xo. Her body is beautiful. Nice T and A but it was really mechanical and a lot of restrictions. Couldn't even remove my mask and she kept her distance. Covid or not, $200 was way overpriced!

Ydi77
02-01-21, 15:42
Shout out to Gigi in the valley. Sweet gal from Italy. Anyone been to Kayla's recently?

PriscillaM
02-01-21, 22:35
Lately been heading back to Goldfinger. Not a pig yet in the last two weeks. Two nice Chinese gals with decent looks.

Ydi77
02-02-21, 15:10
I saw Starlet_xo. Her body is beautiful. Nice T and A but it was really mechanical and a lot of restrictions. Couldn't even remove my mask and she kept her distance. Covid or not, $200 was way overpriced!Glad I didn't bite. You paid $200? I think I spoke with her 4-5 months ago and the price was $250, which I thought was high for someone with no reviews. She then told me to subscribe to her onlyfans, and instead I got some chick-fil-a, it was fucking delicious. She advertises now for $300 no?

Bro Hymn
02-02-21, 17:08
At starlet_xo and at bellaroyalspa on IG have been on my radar for a bit, but schedules just haven't lined up personally. Might be worth a look. Let us know your report if you partake.I saw bellaroyalspa / amber mari a couple times last year. Below avg massage with a decent nude finish for the rate. Completely totally amazing ass. Almost worth the price of admission for that alone.

Santooki
02-03-21, 19:25
I saw bellaroyalspa / amber mari a couple times last year. Below avg massage with a decent nude finish for the rate. Completely totally amazing ass. Almost worth the price of admission for that alone.How was the mileage? Did she allow FIV, was BBBJ an option? Or was it pretty strict with rules?

Bro Hymn
02-03-21, 22:01
How was the mileage? Did she allow FIV, was BBBJ an option? Or was it pretty strict with rules?No fiv although the way she finished me was basically nude camel slide (obv YMMV). I think upgrades are also available but I didn't partake.

Member #6569
02-04-21, 02:48
I paid $200 for 30 min. She has a Valentine's special on ig for hr session but its like $300. Too much for limited action in my opinion. If she opens up menu, I might go back.

Santooki
02-07-21, 00:50
I'd be interested in some FBSM recommendations.

Maybe we can revive this.Also check out at nuruvibes and at nohodreams on IG.

StraightMan
02-08-21, 18:27
Luna is a mindblowingly erotic experience. Absolutely no sex but believe me when I tell you you won't care.

$180 for the hour. I always leave $200. No rush. Fun from the moment you enter her place to the moment you shake yourself in your car and say WOW!

http://www.thatmall.com/luna/

Santooki
02-08-21, 20:37
Luna is a mindblowingly erotic experience. Absolutely no sex but believe me when I tell you you won't care.

$180 for the hour. I always leave $200. No rush. Fun from the moment you enter her place to the moment you shake yourself in your car and say WOW!

http://www.thatmall.com/luna/How was the mileage? Was it just a sensual b2 b massage and HJ? Any extras like dfk, FIV, daty or BBBJ?

Bro Hymn
02-10-21, 14:59
Luna is a mindblowingly erotic experience. Absolutely no sex but believe me when I tell you you won't care.

$180 for the hour. I always leave $200. No rush. Fun from the moment you enter her place to the moment you shake yourself in your car and say WOW!

http://www.thatmall.com/luna/Is there some secret to having her text you back? I can't seem to get a response.

AnthonyPat11
02-15-21, 21:22
Is there some secret to having her text you back? I can't seem to get a response.She is notoriously flaky. Better choices imo.

PriscillaM
02-16-21, 14:56
She is notoriously flaky. Better choices imo.Thatmall gals used to be very good about responding. I think they suffer from millennial affective disorder.

Bro Hymn
02-17-21, 03:10
Thatmall gals used to be very good about responding. I think they suffer from millennial affective disorder.Kind of seems like the last wave of older providers off of thatmall washed out in the last year or two and now it's just same shit you'd get off of rr or pd. I know you don't like going east of the 405 but is the temple really worth the time? I guess probably not for me since I'm looking for at least a bit of a decent massage, not just yoga or breathing or whatever else comes in the level two venice erewhon pack.

PriscillaM
02-17-21, 13:34
Kind of seems like the last wave of older providers off of thatmall washed out in the last year or two and now it's just same shit you'd get off of rr or pd. I know you don't like going east of the 405 but is the temple really worth the time? I guess probably not for me since I'm looking for at least a bit of a decent massage, not just yoga or breathing or whatever else comes in the level two Venice erewhon pack.At its zenith, temple of bliss hired mainly young girls who got off the college, entry level job, middle management, marry and then have an affair with the boss life track in favor of deluding themselves into being some form of sexual healer with a boyfriend with a collection of arrest warrants and tribal tattoos.

Now, it is a majority of older gals, like in their fucken 30's and 40's, who belong in the trash bin of hand jobs.

The re-emergence of this drek is iconic:

https://templeofbliss.com/therapists/luna-lauren/

She was at TOB in like 2010 I think, and was falling apart then.

Note that there is a review on this one:

https://templeofbliss.com/therapists/ciela-belle/

And the dude suggests you can dine at the sushi bar without covid restrictions.

This one is a straight out pig.

https://templeofbliss.com/therapists/ka-monique/

This one is a mechashefa (hebrew for witch).

https://templeofbliss.com/therapists/sola-cura/

You might want to try this one.

https://templeofbliss.com/therapists/elle-sita/ - not a Jedi, but not a fucken mess. Shows her pussy.

Temple of bliss has really fallen in quality. The shamanic sorceress in chief must not have good recruiting skills and is unable to drum out the fucken drek that fills up the roster here. Look, the place is still open and stayed open during a covid pandemic that hit the west side about as hard as rice pudding dripping out of a freshly shaved pussy. So I admire her for not giving in to the hysteria. But I do not like her choices of twat.

StraightMan
02-17-21, 16:05
How was the mileage? Was it just a sensual b2 b massage and HJ? Any extras like dfk, FIV, daty or BBBJ?No extras. You won't care. A great erotic experience.

Bro Hymn
02-22-21, 11:45
No extras. You won't care. A great erotic experience.


No extras. You won't care. A great erotic experience.I finally got an appointment with luna yesterday (after a few dead end attempts and a few more booking debacles). I ended up cancelling an appt with the famous BBFS hana in order to book with luna. While they are completely different experiences, I am actually kind of glad I went with luna after everything.

Luna is the rare "under promise, over deliver" type of thatmall ad. Her pictures are pretty poor at showing anything besides her general proportions, which are kind of ridiculous tbh. Her face is quite pretty and her attitude is that of a real pleaser.

Don't get me wrong, it was so frustrating trying to book with her and getting crickets most of the time as a response, then only to get flaked on twice. She doesn't seem to have a general schedule. Claims to be relatively low volume and kind of sees clients only when she feels like it. Also, I think her hip and ass implants are kind of stupid looking. Whoever did her boob job is a miracle worker (huge and soft) but someone else must have done the bottom half. I'm sure if you see her walking around with clothes on in the store, you'd think she was stripper hot but after being up close and personal with the huge fake ass, I can safely say I'm not a huge fan of them. Also, her "massage" portion of the session is pretty poor.

As for the positives, the session started out kind of awkward as luna does little to no screening so she projects kind of a cautious energy. Once that breaks down, however, she's very sweet and talkative and can be very erotic. I got an appointment for what I assumed to be an hour. After the first pop, she immediately tried starting again and I went soft because I'm usually a one pop guy. She kept making small talk, stroking slowly the whole time in the background and once she felt me get hard again, totally turned back into sexy mode for second pop. All in all, I was there for almost two hours and she didn't look at the clock once.

As long as making the next appointment is easier than last time, I will probably book again.

Bro Hymn
02-23-21, 23:22
https://www.thatmall.com/japanese/

Just curious if anyone has seen this lady. No reviews to speak of since apparently she asks that people don't post anything.

Thanks in advance.

PriscillaM
02-25-21, 16:03
https://www.thatmall.com/japanese/

Just curious if anyone has seen this lady. No reviews to speak of since apparently she asks that people don't post anything.

Thanks in advance.That girls have a way of avoiding reviews, kind of like a nominee for assistant health secretary.

However, after a few years, someone boldly puts a review up.

The fact that she has none, does not have face pictures, and works in fucken sherman oaks, leads me to believe she is fer shit.

GonnaBeAlright
03-07-21, 01:12
No extras. You won't care. A great erotic experience.What's up with the pics on her instagram story? Is that her face pics?

Ydi77
03-11-21, 14:54
Went a couple of weeks ago. Despite literally no ads, this place still operate from sheer reputation alone, which is impressive.

There is an insta page for this place, and all the photos are facetuned into oblivion, so you are literally going in blind. Saw the tech named Becca. Sweet girl, early 20's, like all the gals there. On the thicker side if you are into that. Might try another named Jasmine, I think the name is.

If anyone has a recommendation for a tech on the west side under 28, in shape, willing to exchange info.

CubsFan6012
03-11-21, 19:00
What's their IG?


Went a couple of weeks ago. Despite literally no ads, this place still operate from sheer reputation alone, which is impressive.

There is an insta page for this place, and all the photos are facetuned into oblivion, so you are literally going in blind. Saw the tech named Becca. Sweet girl, early 20's, like all the gals there. On the thicker side if you are into that. Might try another named Jasmine, I think the name is.

If anyone has a recommendation for a tech on the west side under 28, in shape, willing to exchange info.

StraightMan
03-12-21, 20:08
What's up with the pics on her instagram story? Is that her face pics?Can't help you never looked at her Instagram page.

PriscillaM
03-22-21, 23:09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPHmvI0FNqU

Holy mountain of shit.

Ydi77
03-23-21, 11:43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPHmvI0FNqU

Holy mountain of shit.Let me tell you I spent a few years of my youth in the middle east and the first thing this video reminded me of. The videos terror groups made of their warriors doing combat training jumping into burning hola hoops.

On the bright side, look at the difference between the hotties and the whales, videos don't lie!

PriscillaM
03-23-21, 17:11
Let me tell you I spent a few years of my youth in the middle east and the first thing this video reminded me of. The videos terror groups made of their warriors doing combat training jumping into burning hola hoops.

On the bright side, look at the difference between the hotties and the whales, videos don't lie!I heard that the head nutbag was charging the girls thousands of dollars to go to this retreat and many did not want to go or found excuses. It seems like ishtar mera and luxy star are there. The other ones I do not recognize.

Anyone who believes in shaktiva's bullshit and that husband of hers as well are idiots.

Ydi77
03-23-21, 20:43
I heard that the head nutbag was charging the girls thousands of dollars to go to this retreat and many did not want to go or found excuses. It seems like ishtar mera and luxy star are there. The other ones I do not recognize.

Anyone who believes in shaktiva's bullshit and that husband of hers as well are idiots.Then I can't wait to hear a 5000 word report on the abuse and sexual exploitation of the head mama on Substack in 2 years.

Ishtar and Gabriella looks terrific but looks like they are following the Yuppies and fleeing LA.

Marcath
03-26-21, 10:00
There was some posts about not so good that mall massage girls but any positive reports about TM girls?

PriscillaM
03-26-21, 13:09
There was some posts about not so good that mall massage girls but any positive reports about TM girls?There really are no jedis on thatmall.

Many are so old they were in the first round of people getting vaccines, er, I mean Phase III trials of an mRNA treatment.

Which one of these jurassics are you looking at and I can give you the intel.

You are much better off with going to goldfinger.

PriscillaM
03-26-21, 17:40
https://losangeles.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/lax-playa-del-rey/9783852.html

I had been a fan of this one, but she dropped off the planet.

Apparently she has returned.

If you have a small dick like me, she does really good dick work. She manages to work both hands on my small cock.

Marcath
03-27-21, 11:15
https://losangeles.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/lax-playa-del-rey/9783852.htmlThe vids on that ad are 10 yrs old.

Santooki
04-01-21, 14:11
Really attractive. Pics are real as evidenced by confirming the tats she had. Went straight into the Nuru and liked that she incorporated the massage into the Nuru process. Very sensual personality. Would recommend if her look catches your eye.

Otherwise standard Havana service, HJ with minimal extras.

DennyBoy
04-01-21, 15:20
Really attractive. Pics are real as evidenced by confirming the tats she had. Went straight into the Nuru and liked that she incorporated the massage into the Nuru process. Very sensual personality. Would recommend if her look catches your eye.

Otherwise standard Havana service, HJ with minimal extras.Do you have the link? I would like to check it out.

Thank you!

ToriGod
04-03-21, 15:13
https://www.vivastrah.com/staff

Has anyone been here? Is it just a sensual massage or more?

Santooki
04-05-21, 13:45
https://www.vivastrah.com/staff

Has anyone been here? Is it just a sensual massage or more?Based on the pricing, that it's a clothing optional yoga studio, and some of their masseuse having onlyfans accounts that advertise bg and gg content I would think you'd at least get fbsm hand finish. Let us know how your experience ends up being like.

Bro Hymn
05-01-21, 11:10
https://losangeles.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/lax-playa-del-rey/9783852.html

I had been a fan of this one, but she dropped off the planet.

Apparently she has returned.

If you have a small dick like me, she does really good dick work. She manages to work both hands on my small cock.Went to go see this one on your recommendation. Not my style. Now that I live on the westside, I have to either suck it up and drive or deal with more of this hippie dippie nonsense. Don't get me wrong. Surprisingly friendly lady and not terrible overall. She just kind of has grandma hands and weak strength. The energy work stuff was fine but not for me. Even though I've had some rough luck at thai tara the last few times I've been, I think I'd rather pay less and get a more thorough massage from an actual grandma with thai lady strength. The search continues.

Side note: PriscillaM I'd like to swap notes with you sometime. I'm trying to work my way through the independent westside circuit and it looks like most of these broads has been around forever. I don't really want to end up at the temple. I'll just go back to only k-girls.

PriscillaM
05-02-21, 16:17
Went to go see this one on your recommendation. Not my style. Now that I live on the westside, I have to either suck it up and drive or deal with more of this hippie dippie nonsense. Don't get me wrong. Surprisingly friendly lady and not terrible overall. She just kind of has grandma hands and weak strength. The energy work stuff was fine but not for me. Even though I've had some rough luck at thai tara the last few times I've been, I think I'd rather pay less and get a more thorough massage from an actual grandma with thai lady strength. The search continues.

Side note: PriscillaM I'd like to swap notes with you sometime. I'm trying to work my way through the independent westside circuit and it looks like most of these broads has been around forever. I don't really want to end up at the temple. I'll just go back to only k-girls.My notes are probably as good as lebron's emendations see his literary contributions https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/painful-race-activist-lebron-james-asked-malcolm-x-book-reading-gives-response-expect-video/.

It used to be that there were go to spots on the westside like the pearl house, or recommended girls on thatmall, but right now, the only passable handjob is from harmony rivers in westwood. She is on rubratings = westwood search. She is on very heavy drugs so it is a weak performance.

I have been heading to the valley. Which is an absolutely disgusting area. To the coldwater canyon place and the otsego place, but the girls there are such high fucken volume you are rushed out.

It you can get it up to fuck the korean girls on sawtelle, do that, I have no idea how anyone can fuck those photoshopped creatures, but subjectively given the types of reviews given, these guys lap that shit up.

I think I told you that marilyn was way past it and has that annoying peg leg. Do not blame me.

HappyJob
05-03-21, 10:33
Pretty much a sensual massage, the girls are extremely hot, but it's overpriced, I did half yoga / massage session, it was a good time but probably won't be back way overpriced.


https://www.vivastrah.com/staff

Has anyone been here? Is it just a sensual massage or more?

E1775
05-03-21, 23:59
Pretty much a sensual massage, the girls are extremely hot, but it's overpriced, I did half yoga / massage session, it was a good time but probably won't be back way overpriced.I've had my eye on this. So is the pricing online it? Or do they request another $ or. 60 tip? I figured if the girls are as hot as they advertise, any extras are prob reserved for the whales who will drop a G, but I've been searching for a legitimate massage anyways so if they have a good massage and the girl is smoking hot. 🤔. I might just swing by 😂.

If they're not that great and are just eye candy, I'm wondering who is open these days for a really good sensual massage. Extras not required but always appreciated LOL.

Eponymously
05-05-21, 14:22
I've had my eye on this. So is the pricing online it? Or do they request another $ or. 60 tip? I figured if the girls are as hot as they advertise, any extras are prob reserved for the whales who will drop a G, but I've been searching for a legitimate massage anyways so if they have a good massage and the girl is smoking hot. 🤔. I might just swing by 😂.

If they're not that great and are just eye candy, I'm wondering who is open these days for a really good sensual massage. Extras not required but always appreciated LOL.I'm not sure what HappyJob was expecting, necessarily, but without any details provided it's really difficult to judge. 1 hr /200 isn't what I'd consider "way overpriced", it would be tough to find listings for FBSM independent providers much less than that. It is on the premium end of pricing. Assuming there's not tons of restrictions and the providers are as advertised (the Instagram content seems promising at least) then I don't think it's unreasonable.

Santooki
05-05-21, 20:21
Pretty much a sensual massage, the girls are extremely hot, but it's overpriced, I did half yoga / massage session, it was a good time but probably won't be back way overpriced.Did it come with an HE? 200 for inclusive of that wouldn't necessarily be considered overpriced for an hot Indy plus yoga twist. But if you're saying that it's just a nude massage with no happy ending or HJ then yes I would agree with you 100%.

Bro Hymn
05-12-21, 18:14
It took a while to get an appointment with this gem, but I'm glad I did it and I can't wait to go back. She's in great shape for her age (probably early-mid 40's) and has wonderful t&a. Built like a brick house. Great massage (second only on my list to krystal in oc) with a decent finish with all access roaming. She only comes to LA a week or two every month.

PriscillaM
05-12-21, 21:30
It took a while to get an appointment with this gem, but I'm glad I did it and I can't wait to go back. She's in great shape for her age (probably early-mid 40's) and has wonderful t&a. Built like a brick house. Great massage (second only on my list to krystal in oc) with a decent finish with all access roaming. She only comes to LA a week or two every month.Jade is ok. I think she has family in another state. I assume you saw here in that miserable fucken Quonset hut in Mar. Vista with all the temperature control of Apollo 13. Place is very hot. She is super past it, she was great 15 years ago.

I know that she is open to full service, but at a spendy price. I was with her last and she blew me with a cover on.

That was the death penalty for me.

Bro Hymn
05-12-21, 23:52
Jade is ok. I think she has family in another state. I assume you saw here in that miserable fucken Quonset hut in Mar. Vista with all the temperature control of Apollo 13. Place is very hot. She is super past it, she was great 15 years ago.

I know that she is open to full service, but at a spendy price. I was with her last and she blew me with a cover on.

That was the death penalty for me.LOL yeah the light show nearly gave me a seizure and I'm sure she is well beyond her peak, but I'll take what I can get now that I live on this side of town. If I could get a decent massage at the finger, I'd probably go, but I'm guessing that's not a high priority there. I personally don't care about butt stuff.

DarkMana
05-13-21, 12:34
Did it come with an HE? 200 for inclusive of that wouldn't necessarily be considered overpriced for an hot Indy plus yoga twist. But if you're saying that it's just a nude massage with no happy ending or HJ then yes I would agree with you 100%.That's what want to know too, they all look smokin, if you at least get a HE and can get frisky on those bodies I might be down to try.

PriscillaM
05-13-21, 17:11
That's what want to know too, they all look smokin, if you at least get a HE and can get frisky on those bodies I might be down to try.From my reports on the stolen vehicle police recovery network, Vivastrah is a happy ending massage. I just can't see my self paying a deposit, and I really have no desire to be anywhere near downtown.

RootPotter
05-26-21, 12:39
From my reports on the stolen vehicle police recovery network, Vivastrah is a happy ending massage. I just can't see my self paying a deposit, and I really have no desire to be anywhere near downtown.I can confirm this from first hand experience. Very enjoyable, very clean, and not at all overpriced based on the local market.

Ydi77
05-26-21, 18:06
From my reports on the stolen vehicle police recovery network, Vivastrah is a happy ending massage. I just can't see my self paying a deposit, and I really have no desire to be anywhere near downtown.Can confirm. Photos online kind of touched, but still hot girls at a nice complex downtown. Deposit sucks, but it worked for me. I'll prob be back for the yoga though, chemistry was not there.

Still waiting for any intel in Kyla's, if anyone has it.

DarkMana
05-26-21, 20:19
Can confirm. Photos online kind of touched, but still hot girls at a nice complex downtown. Deposit sucks, but it worked for me. I'll prob be back for the yoga though, chemistry was not there.

Still waiting for any intel in Kyla's, if anyone has it.Who did you see when you visited?

JeffH
06-06-21, 17:51
This isn't actually a real review, because I didn't see her. I tried but her behavior raised enough red flags that it didn't work out.

Her ad and pics at https://adultsearch.com/california/los-angeles/body-rubs/2428640 caught my eye. I couldn't find any other mentions of her anywhere (strike 1) but I decided to give it a shot anyway. Text contact was easy if a little scattered (I. E. She completely forgot the time of our first appt attempt 6 hours after confirming). However, she told me she only accepts cash from regulars and asked that I use zelle, paypal, or get a prepaid visa (strike 2). I didn't give up at two strikes, which I probably should have, and picked up a prepaid card. When I got to the address she gave near Koreatown, she had me come to the door and then demanded I send her pics of both sides of the prepaid visa before she let me in.

Not being a total idiot, I didn't do that. I covered half the numbers on the card and sent a pic of that to show her I had it, and I even share the 7-11 receipt to show the value I had purchased. I asked if we could discuss in person, but all she would do is repeatedly assure me she's not a ripoff, and told me to send the pics of both sides of the card (strike 3).

Anyway, I can't CONFIRM that she's a ripoff, but the signs don't look good. I'd be curious if anyone met her and can report.

PriscillaM
06-07-21, 16:08
This isn't actually a real review, because I didn't see her. I tried but her behavior raised enough red flags that it didn't work out.

Her ad and pics at https://adultsearch.com/california/los-angeles/body-rubs/2428640 caught my eye. I couldn't find any other mentions of her anywhere (strike 1) but I decided to give it a shot anyway. Text contact was easy if a little scattered (I. E. She completely forgot the time of our first appt attempt 6 hours after confirming). However, she told me she only accepts cash from regulars and asked that I use zelle, paypal, or get a prepaid visa (strike 2). I didn't give up at two strikes, which I probably should have, and picked up a prepaid card. When I got to the address she gave near Koreatown, she had me come to the door and then demanded I send her pics of both sides of the prepaid visa before she let me in.

Not being a total idiot, I didn't do that. I covered half the numbers on the card and sent a pic of that to show her I had it, and I even share the 7-11 receipt to show the value I had purchased. I asked if we could discuss in person, but all she would do is repeatedly assure me she's not a ripoff, and told me to send the pics of both sides of the card (strike 3).

Anyway, I can't CONFIRM that she's a ripoff, but the signs don't look good. I'd be curious if anyone met her and can report.I saw her ads on Craigslist. Looked her up. She seemed to be non-erotic and a bit weird. I think you would have been upsold into a happy ending at best. No real provider would post her personal information and license like she does.

Oakey420
06-07-21, 20:00
This isn't actually a real review, because I didn't see her. I tried but her behavior raised enough red flags that it didn't work out.

Her ad and pics at https://adultsearch.com/california/los-angeles/body-rubs/2428640 caught my eye. I couldn't find any other mentions of her anywhere (strike 1) but I decided to give it a shot anyway. Text contact was easy if a little scattered (I. E. She completely forgot the time of our first appt attempt 6 hours after confirming). However, she told me she only accepts cash from regulars and asked that I use zelle, paypal, or get a prepaid visa (strike 2). I didn't give up at two strikes, which I probably should have, and picked up a prepaid card. When I got to the address she gave near Koreatown, she had me come to the door and then demanded I send her pics of both sides of the prepaid visa before she let me in.

Not being a total idiot, I didn't do that. I covered half the numbers on the card and sent a pic of that to show her I had it, and I even share the 7-11 receipt to show the value I had purchased. I asked if we could discuss in person, but all she would do is repeatedly assure me she's not a ripoff, and told me to send the pics of both sides of the card (strike 3).

Anyway, I can't CONFIRM that she's a ripoff, but the signs don't look good. I'd be curious if anyone met her and can report.I did a quick google search on the name on her certificate and she is indeed a licensed CMT. In Nottingham, UK. You definitely avoided getting ripped off.

JeffH
06-07-21, 23:19
I saw her ads on Craigslist. Looked her up. She seemed to be non-erotic and a bit weird. I think you would have been upsold into a happy ending at best. No real provider would post her personal information and license like she does.Yeah, you're probably right. The whole interaction seemed a little weird. Sigh. Back to hunting for good options.

DonkeyPunch900
12-04-21, 19:42
Went to go see this one on your recommendation. Not my style. Now that I live on the westside, I have to either suck it up and drive or deal with more of this hippie dippie nonsense. Don't get me wrong. Surprisingly friendly lady and not terrible overall. She just kind of has grandma hands and weak strength. The energy work stuff was fine but not for me. Even though I've had some rough luck at thai tara the last few times I've been, I think I'd rather pay less and get a more thorough massage from an actual grandma with thai lady strength. The search continues.

Side note: PriscillaM I'd like to swap notes with you sometime. I'm trying to work my way through the independent westside circuit and it looks like most of these broads has been around forever. I don't really want to end up at the temple. I'll just go back to only k-girls.Did you get a HE from Marilyn?

DonkeyPunch900
12-04-21, 21:14
Went to go see this one on your recommendation. Not my style. Now that I live on the westside, I have to either suck it up and drive or deal with more of this hippie dippie nonsense. Don't get me wrong. Surprisingly friendly lady and not terrible overall. She just kind of has grandma hands and weak strength. The energy work stuff was fine but not for me. Even though I've had some rough luck at thai tara the last few times I've been, I think I'd rather pay less and get a more thorough massage from an actual grandma with thai lady strength. The search continues.

Side note: PriscillaM I'd like to swap notes with you sometime. I'm trying to work my way through the independent westside circuit and it looks like most of these broads has been around forever. I don't really want to end up at the temple. I'll just go back to only k-girls.What else did you get from her?

FirstClass1
03-26-22, 17:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPHmvI0FNqU

Holy mountain of shit.All of that hippy dippy jumping around and shit, and not one lesson on proper handjob technique or head game.

FirstClass1
03-26-22, 17:10
Let me tell you I spent a few years of my youth in the middle east and the first thing this video reminded me of. The videos terror groups made of their warriors doing combat training jumping into burning hola hoops.

On the bright side, look at the difference between the hotties and the whales, videos don't lie!I got a good laugh from this post. Thanks for that.

Im Yours
06-13-22, 22:59
Just wondering if anyone ever saw Isabel. She was this cute Latina with a perfect ass and tits and would nuru sorta you in her incall in Studio City. Basically let you finger the shit out of her naked 69 as she gave you just the most ridiculous hand job while moaning and everything.

I don't know if she came back but I know she was moving somewhere, and if anyone knows if she's still around?

TIA.

Fatonius
06-14-22, 14:57
Check out Luna on thatmall. She has crazy butt implants but gives a great session.

Where did Isabel advertise?


Just wondering if anyone ever saw Isabel. She was this cute Latina with a perfect ass and tits and would nuru sorta you in her incall in Studio City. Basically let you finger the shit out of her naked 69 as she gave you just the most ridiculous hand job while moaning and everything.

I don't know if she came back but I know she was moving somewhere, and if anyone knows if she's still around?

TIA.

BugsPunny420
06-14-22, 15:09
Anyone had any success finding independent providers who offer H. E on thumbtack?

I've had some successes and some fails (purely professional CMT etc.)

craigduck
06-15-22, 03:14
Is ridiculous a good thing or a bad thing?

PriscillaM
06-15-22, 20:15
Is ridiculous a good thing or a bad thing?Ridiculous Hand job:

1. A hand job done with both hands on the genitals at all times, with delicate ball tickling, ass poking but limited insertion, intercalating attention to the knob and frenulum in nonrepetitive sporadic and stochastic intervals, slight but loving pressure on the perineal raphe, tightening of the grip on the shaft while manipulating the glans penis, which leads to a spooge shot that when measured horizontally from the penis to the brain would result in the male face being splattered by his own nut.

2. A hand job at club fantasy (RIP) on the cum couches while watching family feud.

See: Zuliya or Leslie at the pearl trick pad years 2003-2009; jade on that mall, cerca 2008, Kiki at Goldfinger in 2021, Marley at the temple of bliss ending in 2019, and Terese m. In culver city when she was pregnant and not working on dangerous movie sets.

Chex1138
06-16-22, 10:20
Anyone had any success finding independent providers who offer H. E on thumbtack?

I've had some successes and some fails (purely professional CMT etc.)I've seen 3 women from thumbtack and struck out each time. One was literally 2 blocks from me and I hoped that she offered extras but absolutely nothing. Would love to know your successes if you want to share. Plus the process of contacting through Thumbtack is annoying. One woman told me thumbtack charges them $10 every time they interact with a potential client whether they book or not.

IAmGib1
06-22-22, 11:18
London1991 HX is a nice thai MILF provides massage and HJ. Check out her pics. She is in SFV.

However, once you get to know her more is available for bigger tip UTR. She looks like someone I met before that worked with Gami's crew.

Anyone else partake and get extra services or recognize her from days gone by?

Wokanwoll
06-29-22, 12:35
Has anybody tried Eva Rose?

https://tryst.link/massage/eva-26

Pictures look intriguing. No reviews anywhere. Would love to know your experience. Or I might have to TOFTT.

Sipping
06-29-22, 19:44
Has anybody tried Eva Rose?

https://tryst.link/massage/eva-26

Pictures look intriguing. No reviews anywhere. Would love to know your experience. Or I might have to TOFTT.One of the worst FBSM experiences I ever had. Incall was filthy, she was rude and off-putting. No mutual touch allowed because "your hands are too cold", and when I asked for her to change up how she was massaging me, she snapped "I know what I'm doing!" Just terrible.

Wokanwoll
06-29-22, 21:26
One of the worst FBSM experiences I ever had. Incall was filthy, she was rude and off-putting. No mutual touch allowed because "your hands are too cold", and when I asked for her to change up how she was massaging me, she snapped "I know what I'm doing!" Just terrible.I just finished a session with her and I wish I would've seen your reply sooner. Truly one of the worst experiences. Agree with everything you said. Terrible attitude. Disgusting incall. Face was a 5/10 at best. There was nothing "sensual" about the massage. She yelled at me for closing the bathroom window when I went in to take a shower. I reached out to touch her on the flip and she made me stop and ask first. After that I felt like I was walking on eggshells. I felt like she could snap at anytime. I then asked to touch her up top, and I guess my gentle strokes on her nipple were too rough, she snapped and reached over and pinched my nipples. Worst part is I spent $$$ for a 90 min session. I was out of there in under an hour. Don't waste your time, folks.

PriscillaM
06-30-22, 12:45
I just finished a session with her and I wish I would've seen your reply sooner. Truly one of the worst experiences. Agree with everything you said. Terrible attitude. Disgusting incall. Face was a 5/10 at best. There was nothing "sensual" about the massage. She yelled at me for closing the bathroom window when I went in to take a shower. I reached out to touch her on the flip and she made me stop and ask first. After that I felt like I was walking on eggshells. I felt like she could snap at anytime. I then asked to touch her up top, and I guess my gentle strokes on her nipple were too rough, she snapped and reached over and pinched my nipples. Worst part is I spent $$$ for a 90 min session. I was out of there in under an hour. Don't waste your time, folks.I responded in massage parlor reports. Not reading this forum is malpractice.

AntilySol
07-02-22, 22:18
Pretty well reviewed already in another site but did not find any reports of her on here so I figure I'd share.

Met up in a spot in NOHO.

Absolutely stunning 10/10 chilean / hispanic woman, seductive & DDG. Valley girl accent, almost sounds like she's high on something. She ain't CMT certified and her massage shows but got damn does she make up for it in other ways. PLENTY of extras available including FS.

$$ went a long way for me; enjoy it fellas.

https://rubmd.com/los-angeles-ca/7b384139-0a27-49bf-85b3-e20e171881ca

SayIt
07-03-22, 20:07
Has anybody tried Eva Rose?

https://tryst.link/massage/eva-26

Pictures look intriguing. No reviews anywhere. Would love to know your experience. Or I might have to TOFTT.There's not enough money in the world (to pay YOU) that's worth it to go see her. I'm pretty sure she is literally psychotic. If you told me she cut off your bits because you looked at her the wrong way my surprise level would be 0.

No MT, her hand was "cut" so she only used one hand for everything. On the turn her hand cramped after 30 seconds and that was it. Her face and attitude was of disgust the entire time. You'll be out in 30 minutes (but you'll pay for 60) and if you can go without being snapped at then you are probably Jesus--or a warlock. Anything you say, no matter how innocuous, is taken as a personal attack.

The only thing mutual will be that you can't get out of there fast enough. 0/10.

Wokanwoll
08-11-22, 17:05
After doing a search, I know Sofia has been asked about before, but no info.

Here's a link to a recent ad: https://rubmd.com/los-angeles-ca/f0ef2bdb-6a54-45aa-86d1-125984edcd6f

Before I take a dive, can anyone offer any insight?

She has a few reviews on TER: https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/sofia-3107465797-350078/

Sipping
08-22-22, 13:36
Saw this website for a place in Noho advertising a milking table. Have any of you been there?

https://redroomrubs818.wixsite.com/pretty-girls-only-cl

PaleMan
08-22-22, 19:30
After doing a search, I know Sofia has been asked about before, but no info.

Here's a link to a recent ad: https://rubmd.com/los-angeles-ca/f0ef2bdb-6a54-45aa-86d1-125984edcd6f

Before I take a dive, can anyone offer any insight?

She has a few reviews on TER: https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/sofia-3107465797-350078/She's talkative but legit. The big surprise is FS.

Mikexu
08-22-22, 23:59
Does anyone know any good Asian fbsm places to go?

Thanks for your help guys.

Rusted22
08-23-22, 14:52
Does anyone know any good Asian fbsm places to go?

Thanks for your help guys.Hard to find these days; even hard just to know where to look. Used to be bunches. One good one I know: https://tryst.link/massage/marika#availability Unfortunately, not available regularly in LA. Well worth it when she is.

JDog1234
09-04-22, 18:14
She's talkative but legit. The big surprise is FS.Is the little surprise just HJ or is it BJ. Does anyone know of what those options are in her pricing. I saw she has a higher companion rate and $$ VIP.

TnaStylez
09-05-22, 18:09
Does anyone know any good Asian fbsm places to go?

Thanks for your help guys.Most are in OC. There is a nuru thread in the OC section.

PervySage2018
09-06-22, 19:46
London1991 HX is a nice thai MILF provides massage and HJ. Check out her pics. She is in SFV.

However, once you get to know her more is available for bigger tip UTR. She looks like someone I met before that worked with Gami's crew.

Anyone else partake and get extra services or recognize her from days gone by?That's Angie, London, worked under many names. Pink Galaxy. Sonya. Apple. Cute gal. Amazing big naturals. She disappeared for a long while and she just posted an ad on HX today (9/6/22). I met her when she was working with Gami, who used to provide a ton of Thai gals back in the day. Spent quite a bit of time with Angie, excellent extra services. Miss those times! I haven't seen her in about 5 - 6 years, I didn't know she was back in the game.

HarryLime1
09-07-22, 15:24
Does anyone know someone in LA that actually gives a great massage and magical finish? If a girl says she's a CMT it's usually a good sign but still hard pressed to find one. Not super worried about price.

PriscillaM
09-08-22, 08:25
Does anyone know someone in LA that actually gives a great massage and magical finish? If a girl says she's a CMT it's usually a good sign but still hard pressed to find one. Not super worried about price.https://www.eros.com/california/los_angeles/files/217360.htm

Try her. If you read the reviews and believe them, she meets your test.

JohnWu0079
09-14-22, 15:58
How much was FS upsell? Is it GFE?


Pretty well reviewed already in another site but did not find any reports of her on here so I figure I'd share.

Met up in a spot in NOHO.

Absolutely stunning 10/10 chilean / hispanic woman, seductive & DDG. Valley girl accent, almost sounds like she's high on something. She ain't CMT certified and her massage shows but got damn does she make up for it in other ways. PLENTY of extras available including FS.

$$ went a long way for me; enjoy it fellas.

https://rubmd.com/los-angeles-ca/7b384139-0a27-49bf-85b3-e20e171881ca

IAmGib1
10-01-22, 08:53
That's Angie, London, worked under many names. Pink Galaxy. Sonya. Apple. Cute gal. Amazing big naturals. She disappeared for a long while and she just posted an ad on HX today (9/6/22). I met her when she was working with Gami, who used to provide a ton of Thai gals back in the day. Spent quite a bit of time with Angie, excellent extra services. Miss those times! I haven't seen her in about 5 - 6 years, I didn't know she was back in the game.Yup. I too traveled in those circles. I met Gami when she first started before she went off on her own and became a "Manager".

So did you book London / Angie her off HX. She as good as you remember?

IAmGib1
10-01-22, 08:58
How much was FS upsell? Is it GFE?400 hr. CFS if she is so inclined.

Tg1527
12-09-22, 19:25
It seems like Vivastrah was discussed a little while back but nobody was ever able to close the loop on exactly what's offered / included / available. Does have any intel that they can provide?

https://www.vivastrah.com/

I know it's my first post here but I'm not a total noob. Have contributed on other sites. TIAA.