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PsyberZombie
09-10-05, 19:21
According to OKC's Brian Bates , a.k.a. the Video Vigilante , the proto·typical Monger is 30 — 50 yrs old ; married ; and doesn't live in the Area he's mongering in

AND = According to the U.S. Dept of Justice's Manual on Street Prostitution , here are the Reasons why We Mongers do what we do =

• Attraction to the illicit nature of the encounter

• Desire varieties of sex regular partners do not provide

• View Sex as merely a commodity

• Lack interest in or access to a conventional relationship


So , the Question is =

Are YOU a 'Typical' Monger ??

If so , HOW ???

If not , WHY NOT ???

Phat Bastard
09-11-05, 13:07
According to OKC's Brian Bates , a.k.a. the Video Vigilante , the proto·typical Monger is 30 — 50 yrs old ; married ; and doesn't live in the Area he's mongering in

AND = According to the U.S. Dept of Justice's Manual on Street Prostitution , here are the Reasons why We Mongers do what we do =

• Attraction to the illicit nature of the encounter

• Desire varieties of sex regular partners do not provide

• View Sex as merely a commodity

• Lack interest in or access to a conventional relationship


So , the Question is =

Are YOU a 'Typical' Monger ??

If so , HOW ???

If not , WHY NOT ???

Brian Bates, what an asshole. I followed a link on here to his site once. He's lucky that nobody has killed him yet. Even the cops arrest him for the shit he pulls.
Check him out
http://www.videovigilante.com/
Is that the face of a man who hasn't been blown in decades or what?

Frank Booth
09-13-05, 17:23
Brian Bates, what an asshole. I followed a link on here to his site once. He's lucky that nobody has killed him yet. Even the cops arrest him for the shit he pulls.
Check him out
http://www.videovigilante.com/
Is that the face of a man who hasn't been blown in decades or what?

Too bad the piece of shit wasn't filming suspicious Saudis learning to fly jets in Florida.

Best Tx Monger
09-14-05, 17:34
With all honesty and sincerity, you really have to be a dumb as* to get caught by someone like this.

You know that he already scouts the area and so you should at least make a couple of clear and evident turns. That way you can tell if someone is following you to the place of the deed.

I went to Oklahoma City about a year ago and was on Robinson street. I never once let my guard down. You gotta know the area that you are in is all I have to say.

Regards,
-007

Daddy Lows
10-07-05, 05:21
29 y/o warehouse worker; never married; asian; like the hunting aspect of SW mongering

Peace

Daddy Lows
10-07-05, 05:22
me = 29 y/o warehouse worker; never married; asian; like the hunting aspect of SW mongering

Psyber,
Where's the poll to vote on???

Peace

PsyberZombie
10-07-05, 05:58
Psyber,
Where's the poll to vote on???

I guess this is more of a 'Survey' than a 'Poll'

As for me = I fit Bates' Demo·graphics perfectly ; and all but the last of the FBI's Motivations

Also , to the the 2nd one [ " Desire varieties of sex regular partners do not provide " ] , I would add
a Corollary =

" Desires Variety , period "

Constantsorrow
11-15-05, 14:46
According to OKC's Brian Bates , a.k.a. the Video Vigilante , the proto·typical Monger is 30 — 50 yrs old ; married ; and doesn't live in the Area he's mongering in

For the most part, this is me. The thing to keep in mind is, We generally don't monger in the area we live in because that's not where the SW's are. Generally the SW's in Tulsa tend to walk the low rent areas, or the economically depressed areas. Who would want to live there?




• Attraction to the illicit nature of the encounter
Not at all. It sucks that it is illicit/illegal. If it were legal, the quality would be much better.


• Desire varieties of sex regular partners do not provide
I desire sex. I don't care who provides it.


• View Sex as merely a commodity This is wrong? Why didn't someone tell me earlier?


• Lack interest in or access to a conventional relationship
See second bulleted point.

Another monger put it best. Why is it illegal to sell what is legal to give freely?

Phat Bastard
11-15-05, 19:57
Another monger put it best. Why is it illegal to sell what is legal to give freely?

You know, that's actually a brilliant observation.

I'm sitting here trying to come up with one other object or service that's legal to give but illegal to sell and I haven't come up with shit.

Gorilla69
11-16-05, 01:31
Attraction to the illicit nature of the encounter
The "hunt" aspect of the activity and the "kinkiness" of it are definite contributors to my desire to partake.

• Desire varieties of sex regular partners do not provide
Absolutely; the lack of desire, attention and sexual interest on the part of the old lady is a factor.

• View Sex as merely a commodity
Sex for money is as old as civilization. I think it is a commodity or at least the type of sex you can buy is.

• Lack interest in or access to a conventional relationship
Been married over 25 years... so that is not an issue. Want my cake and eat it too! I love sex, the kinkier the better.

PsyberZombie
11-16-05, 07:23
Another monger put it best. Why is it illegal to sell what is legal to give freely?



You know, that's actually a brilliant observation.

I'm sitting here trying to come up with one other object or service that's legal to give but illegal to sell and I haven't come up with shit

George Carlin said it best =

" Selling is legal . Sex is legal . So why is selling sex Il·legal ?? "

Double Nickle
11-26-06, 06:41
According to OKC's Brian Bates , a.k.a. the Video Vigilante , the proto·typical Monger is 30 — 50 yrs old ; married ; and doesn't live in the Area he's mongering in

AND = According to the U.S. Dept of Justice's Manual on Street Prostitution , here are the Reasons why We Mongers do what we do =

• Attraction to the illicit nature of the encounter

• Desire varieties of sex regular partners do not provide

• View Sex as merely a commodity

• Lack interest in or access to a conventional relationship


So , the Question is =

Are YOU a 'Typical' Monger ??

If so , HOW ???

If not , WHY NOT ???Double Nickle is atypical. How?

30-50. Nope, 56.
Married. Nope, never married.
Doesn't live in the area he's mongering in. No, I've had masseuses in my apt.
Likes illicit encounter. I'm a goody 2 shoes. I won't walk on grass if posted.
Desire variety. Not really. Massage and regular FS make me happy.
Sex as commodity. Read my posts. I fall for these girls.
Conventional Relationship. I don't know what that is.

Double Nickle

Bad Bad Boy
06-17-07, 11:37
I would consider myself a TYPICAL monger as defined by PZ.

I enjoy a variety of partners and experiences, have no interest in a conventional relationship, view sex as something enjoyable that doesn't necessarily have to involve being in love, can sexually experiment with "kinky" sex without any moral judgment, I continue to have my freedom, and no emotional hassles involved and/or obligations once the sex act is completed.

Sex in a conventional relationship becomes boring and stagnant after a while. It's often difficult to get your gf to experiment sexually. More often than not, your gf will want you to commit to an exclusive relationship which in their terms means marriage. The big objection: loss of personal freedom and independence.

BBB

Mac Jones
12-23-07, 23:05
I prefer to go o/o town to play, but I'm not above the local talent now and then. Out of town I'm less likely to be seen by someone I know from work though.

Cybin
12-25-07, 23:16
You know, that's actually a brilliant observation.

I'm sitting here trying to come up with one other object or service that's legal to give but illegal to sell and I haven't come up with shit.If I make white liquor (moonshine) I can legally make up to about 25 or 30 gallons for personal consumption. I can legally give you a pint from time to time, but I can't sell any without a license.

Cybin

Just Aguy
02-01-08, 17:54
30 — 50 yrs old (yes)

Married (yes)

Doesn't live in the Area he's mongering in (depends on the definition of area. I Would say yes)

• Attraction to the illicit nature of the encounter (yes)

• Desire varieties of sex regular partners do not provide (yes)

• View Sex as merely a commodity (yes)

• Lack interest in or access to a conventional relationship (yes)

Pseudonymous
07-02-08, 02:56
According to OKC's Brian Bates , a.k.a. the Video Vigilante , the proto·typical Monger is 30 — 50 yrs old ; married ; and doesn't live in the Area he's mongering in

AND = According to the U.S. Dept of Justice's Manual on Street Prostitution , here are the Reasons why We Mongers do what we do =

• Attraction to the illicit nature of the encounter

• Desire varieties of sex regular partners do not provide

• View Sex as merely a commodity

• Lack interest in or access to a conventional relationship


So , the Question is =

Are YOU a 'Typical' Monger ??

If so , HOW ???

If not , WHY NOT ???Nope, I had my first mongering encounter in my late teens

Me...

age < 30 y/o, single, do not live in mongering area
• Attraction to the illicit nature of the encounter (yes)
• Desire varieties of sex regular partners do not provide (oh yes, probably the selling point of mongering for me)
• View Sex as merely a commodity (mongering causes one to view sex as merely a commodity, i mean you're paying for right for pete's sake)
• Lack interest in or access to a conventional relationship (due to mongering I lack interest)

I believe since my turnout was a young age, one where I still morphing my sexual ideology, it has influenced how I feel about sex and women and general. I now see it as a "needed commodity", like high speed internet or cable TV. You can live without it, but it'd be hell and you know you really want it anyway so why not just incorporate it into your lifestyle?

Southern Sun
06-21-10, 16:50
You know, that's actually a brilliant observation.

I'm sitting here trying to come up with one other object or service that's legal to give but illegal to sell and I haven't come up with shit.How about "body parts"? As in, for transplant purposes.

Now I'm sitting here trying to come up with some sort of underlying common root concept or reason for the illegality of both (selling sexual services vs selling body parts) and I haven't come up with shit.

Bbrenham
07-03-10, 18:18
I don't match up at all.

I do it cause it is fun to pay for play. I can make my own sandwich but sometimes it is nice to get the #9 from Jimmy Johns.

It would be just as fun if it were legal, just more expensive I am sure.

Nothing to do with variety, my wife will do anything I ask.

Since I pay for everything, sex with my wife really is not that free.

I am married so #4 is out the window.

I enjoy hunting even if I don't nail a deer.

Chamber
03-05-11, 06:43
I don't match up at all.

I do it cause it is fun to pay for play. I can make my own sandwich but sometimes it is nice to get the #9 from Jimmy Johns.

It would be just as fun if it were legal, just more expensive I am sure.

Nothing to do with variety, my wife will do anything I ask.

Since I pay for everything, sex with my wife really is not that free.

I am married so #4 is out the window.

I enjoy hunting even if I don't nail a deer.It reminds me of an episode of Boondocks where I believe Riley asks,"Why don't you just buy that hoe some groceries?" A valid question. What's the difference between buying a lady groceries, dinner, etc. And expecting sex instead of just paying for it straight out. It's "cutting out the middle-man" as they say.

The Good Doctor
03-24-11, 14:38
typical Monger is 30 — 50 yrs old; married; and doesn't live in the Area he's mongering in.

• Attraction to the illicit nature of the encounter.

• Desire varieties of sex regular partners do not provide.

• View Sex as merely a commodity.

• Lack interest in or access to a conventional relationship.

So, the Question is =

Are YOU A 'Typical' Monger?

If so, HOW?

If not, WHY NOT? Yes to age group.

No to being married.

No to illicit nature.

Yes to variety.

Yes to commodity if it is not in a relationship.

No to interest / access to a relationship.

Some thoughts:

Guys are into sex. Period. They pay a lot to date girls to have sex. Many are married but don't get sex. Guys are into porn regardless of relationship. Sex is legal.

What is the difference between taking a girl out, spending money on her and working on her for sex and having her play the game to the hilt vs. Just giving them money up front to get it over with?

Mikey2K
04-25-11, 01:32
No I'm not typical.

I'm not in that age group.

I wish it was all legal so the fact that it isn't is not attractive to me.

I do like some variety but I tend to semi-commit to a good sex partner until things play themselves out.

Commodity? Actually I prefer it when it's free!

I have no problems with convertional relationships.

RegalFreeman
02-16-12, 23:29
I don't fit in as "typical" either.

The only part that fits in with me is "View Sex as merely a commodity"

KitsapGreen
10-29-15, 13:02
I fit all the criteria of the proto monger, but I find the reasons are completely different for me.

I wish it was leagal. Sometimes the fear of LE on the provider's part hinders the experience. And the terror of being arrested is not a turn on for me at all.

I admit I am very attracted to Asian women. I really like the accent, the body type, and the facial structure of the typical Asian woman. But at the same time the Asian cultures do not interest enough to be actually envolved with an Asian woman.

On the selfish side, I like the size of my package. I am by no means carrying around a monster, but I am significantly larger than average. I like the moment a provider sees it. I know they are probably overacting because I am paying, but the satisfaction for me is still there. And Asian women seem to react the best.

I view sex in two major categories. At home, I am all about her. I work hard to please her and the moments we share are great. On the other side, it is all about me. My needs are there to be met. That does not mean I am selfish with the experience, or a jerk or disrespectful. It means I don't have to hold back or spend time worrying about if she "got her's".

It is also about the "spank bank" for me. The memories I have still turn me on whenever I think about them. It has even helped at home when she is ready and I need a kickstart to get going.

MeyghaMann
04-08-18, 21:14
George Carlin said it best =

" Selling is legal . Sex is legal . So why is selling sex Illegal ?? " Also, I think it was Charlie sheen who told a judge.

" I wasn't paying for the sex, I was paying so that she would leave".

Von1995
09-28-20, 01:14
According to OKC's Brian Bates , a.k.a. the Video Vigilante , the prototypical Monger is 30 50 yrs old ; married ; and doesn't live in the Area he's mongering in

AND = According to the U.S. Dept of Justice's Manual on Street Prostitution , here are the Reasons why We Mongers do what we do =

Attraction to the illicit nature of the encounter

Desire varieties of sex regular partners do not provide

View Sex as merely a commodity

Lack interest in or access to a conventional relationship


So , the Question is =

Are YOU a 'Typical' Monger ??

If so , HOW ???

If not , WHY NOT ???This is an old post, but it's interesting.

All of the typical characteristics apply to me except wanting variety. I go for a specific type. Whether it's one person or many makes no difference.

The nature of the encounter is a big draw for me. Being in the presence of an escort feels dark and seedy, which I like. Paying a girl for sex and having her at my disposal to with as I please (or what she'll allow) is more ideal to me than a normal hookup.

JohnGalt61
03-02-24, 18:26
Are YOU a 'Typical' Monger ??Bumping this old thread up a bit-.

I don't consider myself as "typical" by this characterization. And I don't think this characterization is necessarily a great one.

1. No, I'm not 30-50, and I doubt most mongers are. Maybe that was true before Gen X turned 51.

2. Yes, I'm married, for now, but I should have divorced at least 5 years ago and have no explanation for why I haven't. And I also doubt this is a majority status.

3. No, I'm not a visitor to the areas I frequent. This one baffles me. Seems like a throw back to an older time of business and convention travel and sex tourism.

4. A psychoanalyst might disagree, but I don't see much in the stated reasons that resonates with me. Definitely not desire for other varieties of sex nor lack of interest in conventional relationships because mongering offers no relief from either of those. Only interest in the illicit and lack of access to sex resonate at all. I think what's missing from the list is my highest motivator: need for acceptance by someone, anyone on some level, any level. Combine that with the endorphins that accompany a coupled orgasm and it's a full Happy Meal.