New Member Guide

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Starting a thread as guide for new members. All are welcome to this community if you are willing to share experiences, tips and advice. It's a two way street: contribute as much as you receive. Do so without judgment of others and make sure you understand the rules of the site.

Overview of popular Grand Rapids threads:

Escort Reports thread is for escort reviews, and sharing information about escorts good, bad, or fake. Just like a restaurant a good provider can have the occasional bad review and vice verse. The more reviews the clearer the picture.

Ripoff Reports should only contain escorts that ripped you off, not poor experiences. These are escorts to AVOID and deserve an uncluttered thread. You may find the same information posted in Escort Reports.

General Reports is for general topics. All too often general topics creep into Escort Reports, but this is where it belongs.

Massage Parlor Reports. Self explanatory.

Street Walker Reports. Self explanatory.

Strip Club Reports. Self explanatory.

Others. Lessor used threads for Reports from a particular escort site.

Refer to the tips on how to Post a report.

User Blogs. There are various discussions including one called Anyone Seen This Girl? Recommended to post questions there instead of on a thread for reviews.

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Setup your UsaSexGuide user preferences to ensure if you want email notifications or not for forum updates or Private Messages (PM).

Login, then select Settings. Under My Settings - General Settings you can select if you can receive PMs from all members (recommended) and if you want to get an email when that happens instead of having to login.

Under My Subscriptions you can select which forum threads you want to get daily emails from. This allows you to read posts without going to the site.

Obviously be careful and don't use an email address that your wife or business can see.

Use the Private Messaging feature to directly communicate with a member. There is a limit to how many PMs you can have in your inbox. Once it gets filled you can no longer receive any until you clean it out. At the time of this posting I don't believe there is a method to attach pics to a PM.

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Nothing annoys this community more than the monger who asks "any info on this one?" for a well known escort. Learn how to do your research.

#1 search this forum for reviews. Members can search within an entire city forum or within a specific thread (I. E. Grand Rapids / Escort Reports) for keywords, no more than 1 search per minute. It doesn't work for 3 letter words or less. Search for your escort name and see what kind of reviews are out there, if any. Pay attention to who made the review by clicking on their profile and looking at other posts, are they senior members? Some fake profiles with only 1 or 2 posts have been known to give extreme praise or criticize an escort, so don't be fooled by those gaming the system. Pay attention to monger bias as we each have different preferences on what we like.

#2 google search the escort's phone #. Sites like STG may have an advertised number in text and also a number if you click the CALL ME button. Search them both using the format "xxx yyy zzzz escort" which will find most ads on the typical sites. Click through anything that is found. Does the escort use different names? If so search for it in this forum. Is the number associated with different girls? What other cities are ads posted in? Search for that escort in the other cities USA forums. If you find that number all over the country use your common sense. Sites like STG have the same ad posted in multiple cities at the same time.

#3 reverse image search the escort pics. Double click on the pic so it's the only thing in the browser. Select the text in the address bar, which might be "http: somesite / babe. Jpg" and copy it. Open google webpage, and paste into the search box. It will prompt you to "search by image" - this is what you want. It will find if the image is used on other sites and not the authentic local girl you were promised. Do this for all images the escort has posted since the tool isn't perfect. Try Tineye.com as another search utility.

#4. Read the ad, don't just look at pictures. Some ads advertise weight / height in metric system which isn't the norm here in the US. Does it give a location that makes sense for the local area or does it say "anywhere"? Use common sense.

Generally speaking, if the pictures look professional, are of incredibly attractive young girls, or advertise with very low rates its too good to be true. If the phone number is associated with a bunch of different girls then it's likely a handler who will send you to a completely different girl that looks nothing like the one advertised. Same thing if the pictures are stolen from the Internet. If the ad has been posted for a long time and you can't find any reviews from a member then it's likely not real. If it's a relatively new ad, and you can't find any information out there, and passes the sniff test, then consult the guide for TOFTT.

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Take One For The Team Guidelines (update # 4).

Step 1 : Find a girl you like, google her number search pics on Google Image.

1. A Search her number on Facebook. / It would wise to have a hobby (fake) FB page before searching.

Step 2 : Monitor the ad for at least 3 days, a sting from LE or Robbery set ups usually don't post for more than two days.

Step 3 : Let the usasexguide members know of your findings from google and ask if anyone has knowledge and you plan on TOFTT.

Step 4 : Buy a hobby phone, Do not use your real name for registration or to the provider.

Step 5 : Contact her on a slow day, for quicker response and better negotiations text or call on Tuesday or Wednesday. They get so many calls on a Friday they might lose your message.

A: Original contact should be a short stay or Hhr, to reduce the risk of an expensive bad date.

B: If her incall is a house address enter it into Google Street view to see the house and neighborhood.

If she gives you a location like 3 mile and Alpine, 28th street hotels between Division and 131, RRI, Knights INN on 28th. Tell her you won't go to those hotels and opt a for car date.

C: Save any negotiation for the end of the call or even your second contact. (a car date is 40 or less).

D: don't wear any loud clothing, blend in.

Step 6 : Never park in her driveway or the hotel parking lot. Park in the street or at a nearby business and walk. Example; if you go to motel 6 on 28th park in the restaurant lot.

Step 7 : Leave all valuables and drivers license at home or in the vehicle. Only take in the money you plan to spend.

Step 8 : Inform her if you are going to be late. If you're arriving early, contact the provider from a gas station a block away, so you and your vehicle do not raise suspicion. While waiting for her response, go in the bathroom and wash your balls while you wait. (providers biggest complaint is Hygiene). Contact her to say you are here. Do not go to any shady houses, just drive by and text her to let her know you will not be coming in her mouth tonight.

A: If you're at a house, have her meet you on the porch.

B: If the Hotel has a side door use it. If you have to walk by the front desk act like you live there, don't ask directions.

Step 9 : Knock on door. If the girl matches the pic stay, if not walk out and report back to USA that the pic doesn't match the girl.

Step 10: Check every room for safety.

Step 11 : Tell her you have the money and maybe show it to her but do not give up the cash until after you receive the services you negotiated for.

Step 12: Report back to USA in full detail including Looks, Smells & Cleanliness (of incall and provider), Attitude and Service.

12 A: Include a link to the providers advertisement so we know who you are reviewing.

These are some steps you should take before you TOFTT. Please add to the list if you see anything I missed.

Just trying to help.

Fellow Monger Benz1.Additional considerations for an incall:

1. Lock the deadbolt of the hotel room door behind you.

2. Politely state you'd like her to put away her phone during your visit (before any money leaves your hand).

3. Let her bring up money and don't ask for explicit sexual services until its obvious she isn't LEO. Instead ask if there are "things she's not into".

4. Keep all your belongings (clothes) in one place in case you need to dash.

If she resists, your spidey senses will start tingling. You don't want a "boyfriend" to interrupt 5 minutes after the money comes out and lose the full amount. That or she grabs and dashes. Make it clear you are paying for her undivided attention. Assess your risk, then mitigate as many possible damages as possible in case things go wrong.

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Guide to Posting a report.

1. Be respectful of others.

2. If posting about an escort.

A. Identify the escort by call name or ad.

B. Be factual & honest.

C. Paste a link to the ad.

D. include picture of ad since links die.

E. Don't write phone # or address, but you can include pic of ad that shows it.

3. To include link, find the webpage and select the entire text in the address bar, copy & paste it into your review.

4. To include pictures in your post click Manage Attachments. If you've downloaded the picture to your phone / pc or did a screenshot then select files from the Upload Files from Computer section, then select Upload.

5. Use the Reply with Quote feature when replying to another post for context. You can edit out portions inside the QUOTE.

6. Preview your post before submitting it.

Many escorts use the same name or change names, so pictures are vital to help identify who is being reviewed.

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Never use your own phone in support of this hobby.

Many mongers purchase prepaid phones just as escorts do. Others use apps on their smart phone to be a 2nd line, or texting apps. Some use both. Although most escorts setup via text, some will do a voice call for final location. Make sure you know how your 2nd line or app works before trying to use it on a date. Apps need to have access to microphone and notifications so it may take some time to set it up.


I use texting apps. Free but if you have snooping family you need to be careful. Here is my advice if you go that route (I have an iPhone for reference).

Pinger TextFree. Ok app, free with ads, and first 10 voice minutes are free. Pros: you can set it up to notify you via email so you can keep your phone notifications off 99% of time then enable the pop ups when you want. you have to use it every 30 days to keep the same number. Which isn't a big deal, and it shows you how many voice minutes you have. You can also access from a webpage. Cons: the app only supports 1 number per your login and can't delete until it expires, it doesn't have a pass code so any who gets access to your phone can open it, and the interface is a bit buggy so need to keep it to short texts.

TextMe. Better app, also free with ads but I haven't used voice on it. Pros: you can release your number any time or get more than 1 number. That is great if you travel and you want to contact using a local area code so they don't hike up rates thinking you are a wealthy business traveler. It also has a password option so someone can't open it. Cons: no webpage support if you are a option user, it doesn't have the email notification and I honestly don't know how the voice minutes work.

My recommendation: both.

I use textfree for my locals so I can get the email notification when I'm not expecting anything, then use textme for travel. You need an email associated with either, so obviously you need a hobby email as well or if you use your regular gmail or yahoo etc set up a filter so all those messages get placed in a sub folder to avoid prying eyes. If you exceed your free minutes you need to pay or setup a new login using a different email.

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Consider the following when posting an escort report:


Hobby Name:

Marketing: Advertises_UTR_Arrangement_.

Service Type:

Camera Friendly

HJ_ CBJ_ BBBJ_ Throats_BLS_CIM_ Swallow_ CFS_ BBFS_ Daty_FIV_Greek_.

Extras: Prostrate massage_ Rim Job_ Pegging_ GFE_ MSOG_Fistable_Enjoys Being Toyed_ .

Rates:

Her Sweet Spot what is she particularly good / skilled at, if anything:

Apparent Skill Level:

Attitude:

Enthusiasm:

Personality: Friendly_Engaging_Talkative_Chatterbox_Sullen_Shy_Disinterested_Irritated_Can't Wait To Be Done_.

Hygiene:

Taste / smell of pussy Good_ ok_ Bad_.

Showered / shaved.

Breath.

Skin Condition:

Body type / physique:

Recent Accurate Pics?:

Attractiveness Face:

Attractiveness Body:

If you know what you are doing, can she enjoy herself?:

Phone Number (s) Used: If multiple numbers, list the most recent first - 7 of 10 digits_.

Email:

Website:

Affiliation, if any: Independent_ Agency_Massage Parlor_Strip Club_.

Hobby Acquaintances or Duo's With?

Age: Posted_ Looks like_.

Ethnicity:

Skin Tone:

Hair color:

Teeth: Missing? Meth teeth_.

Bust size:

Bust Appearance: Boltons_ Full_ Saggy _.

Tattoos:

Piercings: Location_.

Feet: _ Toe sucking_.

Smoker?: _ smoke with client?

Signs Of Substance Use?

Incall: Clean_ Messy_ Smelly_ Risky_.

Repeat at this incall? Repeat with this provider_.

Date of Meeting:

Overall Experience: Comments.

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Advice from Benz.


Tuesday and Wednesdays negotiations.
They'll quote you the highest rate possible, learn to gently negotiate and try not to offend. For new contacts I text about 11 am on Tuesday, using a phone app on my hobby phone. Using the phone app allows me to negotiate to a number I know she will say No. I text again using my real hobby phone number with a better rate I know she'll say yes to because my phone app found out where the bottom is. I'm guessing I'm the only one texting her at 11 am on Tuesday and the hotel room has to be paid soon. She'll be willing to make a deal with me since the last text she got (from me also. LOL) was lower. This will never work Friday and Saturday, they have plenty of options and your negotiations will be ignored. You have to have game in this game. If not it'll cost you more than those that do. FYI most first time negotiations extend to the next weekday visits.

You're out of luck, If you can only monger on Friday and Saturday. Then it's time to tell the wife, options are getting thin and she'll have to take it on the chin.Other suggestions for getting good pricing:

Learn her incall location and general time availability so you can be in the area when you contact her. She'll take a monger who says he's 10 minutes away rather than gambling on a monger who requests a date 1-2 hours later to actually show. Appointments work with established relationships, but escorts all follow the rule of a bird in hand is worth two in the Bush (or maybe it's a c*ck in her Bush is worth 2 future handies? Something like that anyway).

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Great question, but there is no fool proof method. First, keep in mind the following:

- a brand new escort ad will receive 50+ texts in the night. A real escort won't respond to all.

- a vast majority of the inquiries an escort receives the men don't follow through.

- there are a ton of fake ads (usually the ones with high quality pics of hot girls).

- most providers aren't known for their business IQ or their reliability.

The bottom line is you need to differentiate yourself that you are serious, especially if she doesn't recognize your number.

IMHO, text is preferred over call. Also don't ask open ended questions that will take multiple back and forth. Instead make a direct statement like "hi, I'd like to see you anytime now till 8 pm". If you get no response follow it up, restating your interest and ask when she is available. Think of it from her perspective: she receives texts from two different guys, one asking open ended questions, and another wanting to book. She'll respond to the one who she can book. After she responds then negotiate time & money. If you want the full hour state it up front, otherwise if you ask for a Short Stay you are leaving the door open for another monger to outbid you.

You can also try stating facts if you think it will help: "hi, white male, over 40, fit, clean, would like to schedule appointment". Providers have preferences on who they'd like as clients same as we do for providers. But in the end money talks.

The time of day really depends on luck. Midweek generally is slow for them, but then again they aren't "geared up" for the task like they are on the weekend when they've already got a room.

As far as verification I can't speak to it as I've never done it. I'd personally avoid any site because it sounds like a scam unless she is a high end provider with reviews. I have exchanged PG body pics (no face) to verify in both directions but NEVER with a text thread that talked about service or donation.

If you have a provider in mind that posts regularly on STG, monitor her routine and see if you can respond quickly after it is posted. Some post only once a day, others obnoxiously often. If you can catch her quickly your odds are better.


First time lurker here. I want to know what would be a good introduction in meeting providers (new or old).

Always get unlucky whenever I introduce myself properly. What would be a good time to communicate with them?

Call or text?

My introductory text is like this:

Hi (name) would like to know your availability today. I saw your ad? Is this a good or bad introduction text for them?

What time of day should I communicate with them? I usually do like 11:00 am or 3:00 pm to no avail of replies. Done this 2 times already no replies.

And also how verification (leon check) works for them other than the high end providers who ask for I'd and references from other providers?

I'm following rn all the steps in this thread.

Thank you.

Sorry for a lot of question.

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The golden advice from Benz is don't pay upfront, especially for first time escorts. Doing so makes you vulnerable to the cash grab & run even from longtime, previously reliable providers. Withholding donation until time is up also has the benefit of encouraging a better session.

Many experienced mongers have let their other head make decisions and fell victim. Things to look out for: provider needing money upfront for a room, leaving you behind to wait while she gets said room or other excuse, having you go get a condom from your car, duo partners distracting you and separating, or having you get naked or use bathroom after money is taken.

For incalls, use a bathroom before you enter her room so you don't have to be separated from her. Locking the room door after entering to prevent others from entering as well as slowing down her from dashing. Show but withhold all or part of the money. Don't get naked until she does. Have a condom with you and don't bring in valuables other than the money you intend to spend (no phone, wedding ring, watch, etc).

If you get caught by a dasher, best not to fight it. She is likely doing so out of pure desperation, under pimp direction, or just a psycho criminal. You don't want a physical altercation to make a bad situation worse. You never know who might be waiting outside. However if she dashes from her hotel room, consider these fine options as payback:

1. Trash whatever personal affects she left behind. She probably isn't the smartest tool in the shed and likely will return because she paid for the room.

2. Lock the door and order as many hotel pay-per-view porn movies to add to her hotel bill.

3. Call the lobby from the room phone and say you'd like to check out. If she paid in cash say you'll be down to pickup the deposit. If card, ask for a printed receipt so now you'll have her name. But definitely check out so her card doesn't work.

4. Don't leave until after you've flooded the room by overflowing the bathtub. Mild, but cleanable damage that will be a hefty addition to her bill.

Reminders that this happens:


Like many providers she wanted the donation up front, since we were both comfortable I thought OK and gave it to her. At this point everything went off the rails. She suddenly turned into a crazy *****, she grabs a knife ...


The brunette,25 yo ... just scam me of $120! ... Grab my money & her suppose bi male friend said cop were coming as he opened the motel door...


BEWARE. She will demand donation up front then run into her hotel hall way off 28th street & scream the R word. STAY AWAY STAY AWAY

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General rule it's a bad idea to do outcall to your home. Don't give a provider your real name, regular number, or home address. Bad news.

When doing outcall, consider where you are staying and who you are inviting over. If you are a business travelers in a nice hotel you may want to ask the escort to dress conservatively so to not draw unwanted attention of the front desk. Don't give out your room number up front, and have her text you from the lobby. This gives you the opportunity to discreetly watch her from the lobby or bar area to make she is who you ordered. If a different women shows up than was advertised you can deal with it there instead of having a scene at your hotel room door. By meeting in the lobby you can also be sure she isn't texting your room number to her pimp.

If you are staying at a no-tell-motel there may not be a safe lobby to observe your escort approaching. In that case proceed with caution and monitor through the window. You are more likely to get robbed at a shady motel than a nicer hotel because raucous is the norm at places like that. Whereas nicer hotels have cameras. Once your escort enters your room, ensure the door is locked so no one can bust in and she can't quickly do a cash and dash exit.

When seeing any escort (in or out) it's a good idea to only have the cash you are willing to spend on hand. All other valuables (rings, watches, credit cards, electronics) should be nowhere to be found. Consider locking them up in your car or in the room safe (if it has one).

Providers who primarily do outcalls tend to not have as many reviews as incalls. They service more business travelers than locals, and out-of-towners who are less likely to post a report. However the benefit of "outcall only" is they may be lower volume providers.

For those who are risk adverse, an outcall to a business style hotel is the way to go. The provider feels safe, it conveys a sense of assurance that you'll pay and not harm her, and has cameras in the hallway to protect the both of you. Someone intent on ripping someone off will likely seek an easier mark willing to meet at a fleabag motel or dark street corner.

[Alixx]

This is just my opinion I'm sure others will disagree with me, But these are things I look for when I am messaged by somebody.

1. I immediately disregard any message that starts with "wyd, yo or my favorite I seen your ad". It's I saw your ad LOL.

2. Asking me if I'm law enforcement. The reason this is an issue is because law enforcement does not have to tell you their law enforcement. This indicates to me someone who is trying to put me at to much ease.

3. Discussion of anything of a sexual nature. Solicitation is one of the only crimes that requires nothing but intent. The minute you mention sex in any form to an escort you have committed solicitation. It's best just to avoid the problem.

4. The things I look for when I'm responding to a message are name, age, and time they would like to meet. If you ask me what services I provide, I'm a companion. I bill for my time in my time alone. There are no charges a la carte menu or anything of that nature. I do charge an additional $6 if I have to make you a sandwich.

Thank you for letting me put my two cents in, and happy hunting be safe and smart. If it don't feel right it don't do it.

Alix in Jackson.

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Members are welcome and encouraged to share their wisdom here but please keep in mind the intent of this thread so it remains uncluttered and "report" free. Don't be offended if I delete a post from time to time if I deem it to be not on subject. Props to EngrGuy though for literally asking a provider what's on her menu.


... I do charge an additional $6 if I have to make you a sandwich.



What kind of sandwich is it?

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You want to take the plunge, first time with an escort, but are afraid of getting busted or getting ripped off. What do you do?

First read all the tips & advice. Absorb as much as possible. Monitor the various escort ad sites and look for reviews on USA for the providers you like. Don't get seduced by incredible pictures of hot 21 year olds, stick with proven providers that have real legitimate reviews and no history of ripoffs. Do your research, and always check the Ripoff Reports before you make a date. Unfortunately even good escorts go bad if they get into financial distress, drugs, bad company or all of the above.

Pay attention to the reviews and judge them against what YOU want, and what's important to YOU. Keep in mind a 20 year old sees the world differently than a 50 yo, and each monger pays for what is most important to them; be it the escort's appearance, age, skills, types of service, convenience, safety, low cost, etc. Choose a reliable escort who best fits what you are looking for that has reviews demonstrating she provides it. It is highly recommended to NOT go with an unknown provider for your first time. Better to go with a provider who had a lackluster review than a total unknown. There are many reasons a good escort can get a lackluster review, but there are no good reasons why an ad with a hot young girl can run for months and have no reviews. Use your big head to make decisions.

Once you make the date be prepared with all the different scenarios that could play out and what acts you may or may not want. If you notice she's high on drugs will you want to proceed? What if she offers you a drink, weed or drugs? If she tries to start BBBJ do you let her or stop her so you can cover up? Make these decisions in your mind before you walk in the door so you don't make bad decisions in the heat of the moment. Bring your own condoms that you know fit and won't break instead of assuming she'll have some. If you pick a well reviewed provider you'll be less likely to run into bad situations and she'll guide you through hopefully an enjoyable experience.

Once you get comfortable with the process via dates with known, reliable escorts then you can start branching out and TOFTT.

[Alixx]

I have had issues in the past with people wanting to discuss specific issues or services This is the way to Michigan define solicitation. I do apologize if this violates any the rules on this site.

Section.

Michigan Penal Code, Prostitution and Solicitation, Sections 750.448 - 750.462 (PDF).

What is Prohibited.

Prostitution: Engaging in sexual activity for money or payment.

Solicitation: Seeking sexual services for hire.

Penalties.

Misdemeanor, penalties depend on the nature of the act and prior criminal history, including misdemeanor offenses could result in up to 93-day jail sentence and a fine of $500, probation, community service, and possible lifetime registration as ex-offender for solicitation crimes.

Enhanced felony penalties for third conviction of either crime.

Who Can Be Prosecuted.

The prostitute and the customer or "John".

What is Considered Payment?

Money, gifts, favors, and other compensation.

Solicitation is sometimes enforced as a subset of prostitution. While prostitution generally requires that the sexual activity actually be committed and payment change hands, you can be charged with solicitation for merely agreeing to exchange money for sex and taking some action (like getting money from an ATM) to further the agreement. Michigan also prohibits pimping or pandering, the act recruiting prostitutes, arranging a situation for others to practice prostitution, or deriving income from the earnings of a prostitute.

At least my education didn't go to waste LOL. And yes my punctuation still sucks.

[Ranger88]

Any tips for searching when an ad doesn't have a name in it. I've tried some of the terms in the ads. Tried googling the phone numbers in these ads and haven't had any luck. Trying to avoid the hated "any info on this provider" posts. TIA.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/other/been-a-naught-girl-daddycome-p/496458950832

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/thick-n-juicy/219675569642

[Alixx]

Any tips for searching when an ad doesn't have a name in it. I've tried some of the terms in the ads. Tried googling the phone numbers in these ads and haven't had any luck. Trying to avoid the hated "any info on this provider" posts. TIA.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/other/been-a-naught-girl-daddycome-p/496458950832

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/thick-n-juicy/219675569642Use Yahoo and other search engines the same way you use Google. Different stuff comes up on different search engines.

[Electronman]

I have had issues in the past with people wanting to discuss specific issues or services This is the way to Michigan define solicitation. I do apologize if this violates any the rules on this site.

Section.

Michigan Penal Code, Prostitution and Solicitation, Sections 750.448 - 750.462 (PDF).

What is Prohibited.

Prostitution: Engaging in sexual activity for money or payment.

Solicitation: Seeking sexual services for hire.

Penalties.

Misdemeanor, penalties depend on the nature of the act and prior criminal history, including misdemeanor offenses could result in up to 93-day jail sentence and a fine of $500, probation, community service, and possible lifetime registration as ex-offender for solicitation crimes.

Enhanced felony penalties for third conviction of either crime.

Who Can Be Prosecuted..Thanks.

What is considered "gifts, favors and other compensation?" How about a dinner and a movie? How about some of the favors that consenting adults provide for each other? Sounds incredibly vague to me and like the basis for a legal challenge.

[PrivateParts]

Any tips for searching when an ad doesn't have a name in it. I've tried some of the terms in the ads. Tried googling the phone numbers in these ads and haven't had any luck. Trying to avoid the hated "any info on this provider" posts.Ok, you've found an escort you are interested in but can't find reviews after doing research. Follow the research tips and TOFTT guides:


reference research guide.


reference TOFTT To reiterate: if you are willing to take the plunge despite no reviews, it's ok to post to the forum stating your intentions. Tell the community what you've learned via searches or from your direct contact with the provider and that you are getting ready to book. That is a form of contribution and not a dreaded "got any info? Give other members some time to respond. It's ok to contact a provider to ask questions, but if you annoy her she may not respond or block you. Legitimate good providers usually will answer basic questions if you say you are interested in advanced appointment, availability, etc. Use your hobby phone or texting app.


Never use your own phone...If you decide not to make appointment, post your reasons.

If you do, follow all the other precautions listed on this thread and report back.


First what you need to do is run a Google search with the phone number and review after it. If you don't get anything try posts, if that doesn't work try escort behind it. If all else fails go to the forums and ask the people in your area. Make sure you contribute to post when you can.

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This thread is filled with advice so a Newbie can be armed with knowledge of others. We also suggest doing your own research online. Recently the popular escort site SkipTheGames.com started adding a "Read this first" link on all ads. It contains a warning for scammers and has links to informative articles from both client and provider perspectives that is similar to advice found here. Newbies should browse that site while it's up in addition to reading the advice of your fellow USA members.

Links:

http://skipthegames.com/articles/about-escorts

http://skipthegames.com/articles/about-escorts/how-to-identify-fake-escort-ads-and-avoid-scams

http://skipthegames.com/articles/about-escorts/14-basic-incall-etiquette-rules-for-clients

http://skipthegames.com/articles/escorts-on-escorting/why-you-dont-want-to-get-too-personal-with-an-escort

http://skipthegames.com/articles/escorts-on-escorting/ask-an-escort-who-is-your-favorite-customer

[PrivateParts]

A number of provider ads will list credit cards as acceptable payment or require some type of screening. Giving your credit card directly to a provide sounds like a bad idea, however some higher class escorts may require screenings or even a deposit. But those escorts would need to have verifiable reputable reviews before you consider giving up personal information or deposit.

Here is a snippet from a professional escort's blog:

"P411 (or Preferred 411, if you want to be fancy and call it by its full name) is a site where clients network with providers. Basically, providers vouch for clients.

This is how it works: A provider meets with a client, and then she reports back to the site regarding whether the client is safe to meet with or not. If she feels that he was a gentleman, she will indicate that. This is called an "Okay. " If she felt that her safety was jeopardized by meeting with him, she will report him. The next time he decides to meet with a provider, she can check the "Okays" he has been given, and then contact those providers for further details. Using this system, providers can quickly and easily vet potential clients based on how other providers felt after sessions with him. ".

Read the entire thing here:

http://nolacourtesan.com/my-screening-practices-explained-part-2-p411-date-check-ter-references/

http://nolacourtesan.com/scheduling-a-date-with-an-escort-on-providing-references/

Comments from our member community:


Been mongering for about 20 years. Was active on Scorpsguide and this forum when it was part of wsg. I've NEVER read a positive comment from anyone who submitted a creditcard to see a hooker. Well established sugar dating sites and well established verification services like p411 or datecheck, sure. But never a positive comment on some new barely known service. And unless you're booking with a well known well reviewed model level escort as opposed to the typical fakes on cityx and stg I advise never doing this.
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P411 is a verification service, similar to Date Check. Guys have to pay to be a member. When a guy asks for a date from a provider, they can see who he has been with in the past. After a successful meeting, the guy asks for an approval from the provider, which is then added to his list. Once you have a few approvals, it is easy to get a date with the ladies listed on their site. P411 won't tolerate any bad providers, so it gives us guys a bit more confidence there won't be any cash and dash or other problems.


I've avoided that whole screening process numerous times over the years just by telling certain established providers my USG name, but that also poses a problem when you deal with outcall (having a personal place for side action) or car dates (license plate / unique car). Even just using your personal phone is strongly ill-advised.

Anything that could tie your identity or your real life to this site is NEVER a good thing. I guess it's up to us as long-time senior members (who have been actively participating and consistently sharing information) to be cautious, especially with brand new service providers.

[PrivateParts]

Thanks to mongers who diligently upload pictures (tip of the cap to Wolverines), you can visually search the GR forum for pictures of a provider you may have questions about. This is especially helpful to find reviews of nameless escorts or those using an unsearchable 3 letter nickname. This technique only shows reports with pictures.

See screenshots for the "how to".

This only works if we continue to include pictures in the reports. Refer to Newbie Guide on posting a report as quoted below.


Guide to Posting a report.
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Many escorts use the same name or change names, so pictures are vital to help identify who is being reviewed.

[Alixx]

After reading the MCL on this, I found the point of interest. If you're access to the internet, via phone etc, is only accessible by a password, that you have, then you're the one responsible for the use of it. However: if you disable the password before you go into a location, then anyone could have used it and your lawyer can argue that point.

Keep in mind. The main rule of law is. Its not what they know, it's what they can prove. Rule 2. Shut the f* up! Never say shit and know you're rights.

Thanks to Ben99 for getting me started on this topic.

Alixx.

[PrivateParts]

As moderator of the blog I'm going to stop future posts on law / criminal topics because I don't feel this is the appropriate forum for legal advice. Perhaps another user blog will focus on stings so mongers / providers with personal experiences can share. I am not aware of local LEO focusing on "john" stings but it is a real concern that mongers should be aware of:

https://time.com/sex-buyers-why-cops-across-the-u-s-target-men-who-buy-prostitutes/

This post is purely opinion along with some articles for reference. Take it for what it's worth. As Senior Member Arish pointed out, LEO can do some very shady things in prostitution and "John" stings. It may not result in getting a conviction, but for many Johns the damage is already done with an arrest and court appearance:

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/how-do-police-uncover-prostitution-rings.htm

The following advice is debatable but I would say if a provider advertises with a naked picture or sends you one in correspondence then it is highly likely it's not LEO. It's against the law to use "pornographic" images of another without their consent, so I don't think LEO would risk their entire sting operation by possibly violating state / federal laws on Internet pornography. I'm no law professor, but that argument seems reasonable especially considering how many mongers reply to ads that don't include naked pictures. A LEO sting would be just as effective without having to post naked images online.

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(nejyk5qeejzffp4wezwooofd))/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=mcl-750-145e


Likewise I find it highly unlikely a female officer would willingly publish nude pictures of herself online (especially if it included her face, and definitely not without a significant bump to her civil servant salary). So I say it's a safe bet if you get a naked picture of a woman and that same woman answers the door, you are good to go.

But that's not to say a legit provider has to give nudes to prove she's not LEO. Many low volume providers won't ever show their face or provide nudes for the same reasons you wouldn't. But for the strictly risk adverse, stick with the known providers.

For the unknown provider, follow all other precautions once you agree to have a date. Circle the block looking for suspicious vehicles and don't park right in front of the address. Beware of multiple providers operating out of a residence and / or those that include drug activity. Men coming and going from a residence all through the night will be reported as nuisance and get LEO's attention.

https://fox17online.com/2019/07/02/evidence-seized-after-warrant-is-served-in-sex-trafficking-investigation-in-wayland/

"John" stings more than likely will operate at low budget motels with external entries because cop budgets are minimal, it provides an easy "raid" entry and serves as a visual deterrent in a common prostitution area. The John stings are meant to be a deterrent so it will be in areas of other criminal activity. Operating a sting out of a vacation or business type of hotel doesn't have the same impact on the community and will in fact hurt the hotel business. So you can bet the nicer hotels with lawyers won't support it.

If you enter a motel with an adjoining room, make sure that door is locked before you say anything more than "hello". Nothing good will walk through that adjoining room door so if it's unlocked, leave. Try not to talk about services in person until sexual contact has been initiated. Negotiations for $ and time can done prior via text without explicit talk. Let her initiate sexual contact or get naked before any explicit talk.


This is the way to Michigan define solicitation...https://statelaws.findlaw.com/michigan-law/michigan-prostitution-and-solicitation-laws.html

If you did negotiate via text, don't bring your phone with incriminating evidence on it. Leave it in your car and park far away if it's safe to do so.


Using computer to commit a crimeBy parking far enough away it may appear you walked. If you are unfortunate enough to be caught in a sting your car will be impounded if they saw you drive. So don't admit it. Paraphrasing Alixx, if you get caught shut up and admit nothing.

https://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/wayne-county-doubling-down-on-forfeiture-as-legislature-moves-to-reform-it

[PrivateParts]

Too many mongers forget we are paying for a provider's time and services. The good providers might make us feel special, provide the GFE. That's great, but don't forget the letter "E" stands for experience. It's not real. Think of her as the neighborhood bartender. You may get to know each other, perhaps very well, and she'll keep you happy. But at the end of the night you always pay and leave. Do you text the bartender sweet nothings before falling asleep or the first thing next morning? No. But if you see her tomorrow she'll be happy to serve you again, just like any other paying customer. The escort is no different.

Don't ever forget that. Two main reasons:

1) if you get confused you can appear like a stalker. When a good, independent escort feels like she's being stalked it ruins it for the rest of us. They get jittery. They ghost guys unexpectedly. They change phones and lose the text history for their "good regulars". Or they retreat / pull away from the hobby, move to a new city, take a new name or get "protection". Guys don't even realize they are doing it.

2) you risk being taken advantage of, especially from those providers who are doing this as their way of life or have habits. Those types will eventually fall into a bad situation and you'll be the one they call. Be it drugs, money, a place to stay, a sketchy favor, whatever. They will need something and if you don't come through they may have leverage on you. If you think it's real you will have let your guard down; shared your personal number, your real name, taken photos with her, poured your heart out in details of your marriage. Proceed with caution or it won't end well.

There are exceptions of course, but by and large whatever special relationship you think you have will likely be one sided. Over time you may consider her as a "friend", forgetting that that you pay to see her. To her you are a loyal paying customer. Don't lose sight of that. This isn't Pretty Woman. You aren't her White Knight.

All providers have stalker stories. Don't be that guy that takes it too far.

[AlixWallace]

You guys are not the only ones who fall in that trap. As a provider I've done it on two occasions and I've been in this business for 2 years. If the girlfriend experience is done right it can be an incredible experience, and then on the other hand if you get caught up in it, it can be a horrible experience.

Either way it's important for both parties. Understand it's an illusion it's not real. It is not time for a divorce it is not time for you to leave your wife. Ended as sure as hell is not time for us to encourage it. And unfortunately too many times that happens. Providers by our very nature are manipulative do. We know what to say, we know what to wear, we know what to do. Some of us are Masters at our craft and make the Illusion 2 real and we fall into it.

I'd like to know what the hell my point was but at this point I'm just going to say the girlfriend experience is fine as long as I ain't got to call you in the morning.

[PrivateParts]

Let's put reviews into perspective. If your friend tells you he had lousy service and overcooked steak at your favorite restaurant, do you accuse them of lying? Do you post combative reviews on Yelp suggesting the problem was with the reviewer? Conversely if you had a poor experience do you accuse the positive reviewers of secretly getting kick-backs from the business? Of course not. You post your experiences (positive or not) and let the review ratings average out.

Same should be true with escort reports. Coming to the defense of an escort in response to a poor review is a form of white knighting. Questioning another member (especially a respected senior) is worse. Those who have really strong opinions about their positive (or negative) experiences with a provider may be tempted to argue. Don't do it. Besides getting your post deleted by Admin it's just a bad look for you in a community where we help each other. There are lots of valid reasons why two mongers will have vastly different experiences. There is also the reality that members can give a misleading positive or negative review for whatever reason. That's where multiple reviews are necessary. Even 5 star restaurants will have the outlier 1 star review. If everyone posts honest reviews about there own experiences the average will speak for itself. See Ron's message.

[PrivateParts]

Great post by Wolverines on how to search, complete with pics.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?8162-Escort-Reports&p=4806964&viewfull=1#post4806964

Its a vital step in the research department that all members should know how to do:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31718-New-Member-Guide&p=4528149&viewfull=1#post4528149

[PrivateParts]

Recap about providers with 3 letter names and this site not supporting 3 letter searches. First suggestion to help others is to duplicate the last letter when you make a post about one. I. T. Professionals can read Wolverines explanation here:


This site is powered by a community hosting site called vBulletin...

In the mean time we have our work around with adding the extra letter to the end of the provider's name (ex. For joy we would post joyy).Other suggestions are to help you in search. First is do a 4 letter search "Joyy", "Skyy", "Ivyy" etc which will find the posts mongers were nice enough to do up front. The second is Chad's suggestion:


Another option is to put asterisks *Ivy* around your search term. This still won't show you three letter results, but it will bring up any larger group of letters or symbols containing those letters. So if anyone ended a sentence with "Ivy," and put a period or an exclamation mark after it, those reviews will come up.

[PrivateParts]

You will find advice on common themes scattered throughout this guide as well as within individual posts in the main report threads. If you want to be successful at this hobby, avoid wasting time, and stay safe you will need to become proficient at the following and become a valued member in the process:


Know the local escorts scene, whos good & who to avoid by reading posts and using the search function.

Know how to identify escorts who are managed (to put it mildly) vs operating independently. Understand what that means and who you want to patronize.

Learn how to spot a fake ad, bait & switch and avoid scams

Learn how to contact an escort. Never use your real number.

Know how to minimize your risk and stay safe

Don’t pre-pay and don’t give deposits

Beware of outcall to your home. Your ID is sacred.

Contribute back to forum with reviews and info that others might want to know

Don't be lazy when asking for help. Demonstrating you've tried or contributed in some other way will encourage senior members to respond.

Members are allowed to differing opinions. No need to argue.

Don’t criticize another members taste in escorts.

Treat the women with respect so they continue to treat us right.

Suggest starting at the oldest post in this thread and reading backwards.

[PrivateParts]

Look at the attached escort ad. How do you scam thee? Let me count the ways:

1. The title.

2. The pictures look like taken straight out of image gallery.

3. Do the reverse image search, yup confirmed.

4. Payment method is Visa / MC.

5. Location says text me now.

6. West Virginia area code.

7. Weight in kg.

8. Very bad broken English.

9. Over the top sex talk.

10. Ridiculously low rate.

11. Phone number has ads across country.

Let's make it an even dozen with this one: claims to be 26 when she could easily pass for 21 or below. Escorts never use their real age, but they don't add years either.

[PrivateParts]

Good discussion on using text / voice apps. Click to view original posts for advice.

Hiding the App.


If you choose to use a texting app you can hide it when you are not using it. ... Google Voice part 1-5.


It is pretty easy to use Google Voice safely, even for those who are not all that tech savvy.
...Google Voice part 6-8.


6. Turn off notifications on your phone unless you want them ...

Free voice minutes

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TextFree allows you to accrue voice minutes for free by just playing a lot 20-30 second ads from within the app. It's mindless and I can bankroll 10-20 minutes while watching a football game. ... I'll add for any of these apps, make sure you experiment with them by playing with all combinations of notifications and then sending texts & calls from a different phone to see how it responds on your phone (in both locked mode and while open). I noticed that with TextFree that I can't disable incoming voice calls from appearing on my lock screen.

Another technique not mentioned in above posts is to disable those apps from using Cellular data when not in use. I find my phone is most vulnerable to getting into the wife's hands when we are out of the house, especially in the car. Disable those apps from using cellular prevents the unexpected voice call or text to pop up at the wrong time.

[PrivateParts]

Providers that rarely (or never) advertise on escort sites and prefer to service only existing clients or new ones via referrals are operating under the radar (UTR). You won't find UTR phone numbers on public sites so it's a privilege if you have it and shouldn't be shared without the UTR's consent.

Who are UTRs? UTRs can be well established providers keeping a low profile, regular women who just want to make some extra cash while having fun, or simply new to the game and will eventually start advertising on their own. The common trait of any UTR is that she doesn't want to risk seeing the random man that typically responds to escort ads. They want to see safe, respectful gentlemen for their own safety.

How do UTRs operate? Some are a member of this site that'll review your posts and decide for themselves if they'd be willing to see you. Others rely on one or more trusted clients to assist them with referrals. Typically it's a senior member who has an established relationship with the woman whom she trusts and has given permission to share. Sometimes it's only under strict circumstances agreed to between the UTR and her trusted client.

How do you get to see a UTR? Only by referral from person who the UTR has entrusted to pass along contact info. The mechanism on how this is accomplished may vary, but typically involves a senior member who'll post to this community offering up the UTR contact info to other members "in good standing". The member has 100% discretion in deciding who gets the UTR contact info. He could be sharing his actual girlfriend or sugar baby for all you know, so respect his decisions.


Is this pimping? No, not if the senior member who is assisting the UTR has a solid track record in the community. Red flags would be if the person offering up a UTR is new to the community, requires other members to pay him, or is otherwise involved in negotiations with the provider. We all should be very cognizant of which providers we patronize and look out for human trafficking. By granting referrals to only respected members we protect the UTR from getting involved with bad people, including pimps who may troll this site.

Can I share a UTRs info after I receive it? Hell no. The only one who should be giving out a UTRs number is the person (or persons) she's entrusted. There are usually stipulations that those who are entrusted know that you don't. By passing out a UTR's info without her permission you're putting her at risk.

Why wasnt I given the UTR? It could be any number of reasons. Maybe the UTR only wanted to get a couple new clients, or told her trusted client she's had enough. Or it could be something in your history (or lack thereof) that makes the senior member apprehensive. The best way to get access to a UTR is to contribute positively to this forum. If you never post reviews, constantly attack others, or show no respect for the women you've seen in the past you won't get a referral from a senior member.

What if I think Im deserving? Tough crap. Ask your wife if shes wants to suck a bunch of strangers dicks and then you can call the shots. Until then suck it up buttercup.

Can I review a UTR? Yes. Be respectful of the UTR's privacy by not divulging personal information you learn, but do be honest. Being a UTR doesn't mean she's worth it. UTRs can fall into the same pitfalls as other escorts, so the community benefits from knowing your experience.

I see reviews of a UTR, how do I get her info? Search the forum to find out who introduced her to the team. If you can't find it, ask in General reports. Do not pressure others who have seen her but haven't been given permission directly by the UTR to share.

The UTR Ive been seeing asked me for more referrals, what do I do? As a courtesy you should tell the senior member who shared with you her digits / password originally before you act. You all need to be on the same page. Helping a UTR the right way is a difficult task, so don't take it lightly.

[AdorableRose]

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EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.

[PrivateParts]

SkipTheGames created a nice article that covers a lot of Newbie Guide topics. Hopefully the link stays alive, otherwise at the time of this posting you can find it by clicking on a provider’s picture on STG and click "Is this photo real?

https://skipthegames.com/articles/about-escorts/how-to-identify-fake-escort-ads-and-avoid-scams

[PrivateParts]

Most of the posts in this thread are geared towards Escorts. Here is a great guide on SW thanks to MichBigTitLove for sharing:


Copied this from another monger but I agree completely.

22 Rules for Street Mongering.

1. IS SHE WORKING? - It ain't like in the movies -They wear ordinary clothes, and are just walking alone, with no bags, or maybe making a phone call at a pay phone (but if you checked, there's no one on the line). Believe it or not, a girl walking alone and without shopping bags on a hobbyist street is almost always a SW.

2. If you aren't sure, come back in a few minutes. Non-pros who happen to be walking are going somewhere, which isn't up and down the same stretch of road. And on hobbyist streets, the local women tend to avoid looking like they might be in business, unless they are!

3. If she is watching traffic, she's probably a SW.

4. If she makes eye contact with you, she's probably a SW.

5. If she then smiles at you, she is a SW. After all, you're just some dude driving by.

6. If she's with a "boyfriend", who disappears when you come around again, he's pimping her. Be careful! Don't unlock the door until she's ready to get in, with him nowhere to be seen! If you follow these rules, you're in control of the situation.

7. MAKING THE PICKUP. Pull over at the next parking lot, or around the next corner and park nearby. If you're sure she saw you. Smile back at her, dummy! - then feel free to pull further down the block, so it's not so easily observed by LE. She'll casually turn down your block, walk past. And then suddenly walk up to see if you're letting her in. Keep eye contact, keep smiling. Invite her in.

8. Lock the other doors! You're in a crime-filled neighborhood!

9. AVOIDING LE STINGS. Do not EVER EVER EVER discuss anything with a girl who isn't seated in your car, except to offer her a ride. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING! IT'S LEGAL! Just being a nice guy. On every board I've seen, LE always tries to make the bust without the F LE risking her ass by getting in. READ THIS RULE AGAIN! IT'S IMPORTANT!

10. This is the perfect time for LE to pull you over for rolling through a stop sign, just to harass your ass. Drive like a preacher! It's an effective way of intimidating we hobbyists, and they'll use any opportunity if they're watching.

11. Make a turn or two before discussing $$, just in case. Watch your rear view. You can bet she will, too! I've never heard of LE getting in the car, with a follower, but better safe than sorry. A known LE trick. She doesn't get in, but directs you to meet her around the corner. Guess who's waiting there, instead of her? If she doesn't get in right away, move on!

12. AVOIDING SCAMS. If you do a car date, and you let her pick the spot (she'll try to direct you), be aware that she may be setting you up for a robbery. Don't settle for her spot. Or at least, force her to come up with a second choice. Her boyfriend can't be in two places at once.

13. If you go back to a hotel, and she picked it, be aware that this could be a setup for cash&dash, or her pimp busting in & robbing you.

14. If you go back to her place. Are you mad? The "boyfriend busting in mad, waving a gun" scam probably happens a lot. Since the victims won't report the robbery, they get by with it, even though the victims know where the robbers are staying!

15. If you go back to your hotel, um, have fun! (OK, that's not a rule. If you go back to your hotel, be discreet so the mgmt doesn't call LE on you.).

16. If you go back to your house. Are you really ok with a potentially-addicted SW knowing where you live?

17. YOUR WALLET. Do not leave your wallet within her reach. If you think you know a clever spot to hide it, remember that 100's of others have thought of it, too. While you're distracted, her free hand can be working.

18. YOUR MONEY. Do not have more in your pocket than you want to spend. She (and your dick) will talk it out of you. If she's really worth an extra few dollars, you can go get it (out of the trunk, the ATM, your other pocket, whatever). Current street rates are 20 for BJ, 40-50 for FS, and you can tip later if you think it's worth it. Remember, it isn't worth it just because you came. She'll always demand a tip, if she thinks it's coming. Many will claim they "usually charge more" - the word on this board is: they don't. But, hey, some of these girls are hard-working, quality-driven providers, even though they're SW (really. I mean it! And they deserve a break.

19. HUNTING HOURS. They're out at all times, in most weather. I've heard of them walking as early as 4:30 am, and well past midnight. They work the lunch hours for guys on lunch, afternoons for guys on early shifts, mornings for guys who'll be late for work, and all through the evening and night. If it's lightly raining, there will be less, but there will be some. Most of these girls are drug addicts; their addiction doesn't have a "M-F, excluding legal holidays" schedule.

20. CFS! Carry a condom. Usually, they don't have one (which I think is so fuc*ing stupid, but then, if they had a clue they wouldn't be SW-ing). You don't want to be tempted to skip the cover because that pussy is so fine.

And the freebie: Every time some SW claims "I'm the best! I'm worth more", it really means, "I'm a lame-ass lying lazy talent less junkie!" The good ones don't have to brag; they'll get your return business.

21. Don't let her use your cellphone. It's a very common request. She'll call her friend, or her own phone, and that will give her access to your # - which might set you up for unexpected & inopportune calls for business or bail money.

22. Be friendly. As has been noted in other threads, these are people with feelings, not just automaton sex dispensers. If you're friendly, chatty, and warm, she'll open up, relax, and probably be more generous with her service, in all the little ways that matter most. Remember, if she's never hooked up with you before, she's worried that you might be either LE, or some psycho SW-stalker.

As always Play Safe.

I would add don't pay in advance.

[AvrgeWhiteMale]

Feels like the most correct place to ask these questions. Newb here looking to expand on some of the great information below with some things I do not believe were covered. Specifically in terms of escorts versus MPs and what is typical.

1. For escorts, it was suggested to walk in order to put your vehicle out of harms way when it comes to potential LE or theft issues. Would why'all make the same suggestion for MPs? Seems like it almost the opposite level of weird to not show up in a vehicle at a MP. Kind of suspicious in a way, I guess.

2. For escorts, it was suggested to discuss what is wanted up front, and then avoid discussion of what happens when it actually happens due to potential issue of directly discussing money for tricks. For most MPs it seems like there is not a good way around this. If there are certain providers who are solo or you are contacting directly, is it ok to discuss specifics beforehand, or is it always done in the moment?

Thanks in advance.

AWM.

[PrivateParts]

I'd refer you to post MP questions in that forum where the experts can weigh in. Summary of that discussion we can post here instead of filling up this thread with a lot of clutter.

With that said, here is my take:




1. For escorts, it was suggested to walk in order to put your vehicle out of harms way when it comes to potential LE or theft issues. Would why'all make the same suggestion for MPs? Seems like it almost the opposite level of weird to not show up in a vehicle at a MP. Kind of suspicious in a way, I guess.
AWM.MP are a legitimate place of business so parking is a personal preference. If you are concerned your vehicle is recognizable and afraid someone will recognize it and rightfully assume you are there for a tug then you can decide to park elsewhere. In general if it's a business or hotel most will park in the lot provided. Private residences guys may want to park around the corner of its safe neighborhood.


2. For escorts, it was suggested to discuss what is wanted up front, and then avoid discussion of what happens when it actually happens due to potential issue of directly discussing money for tricks. For most MPs it seems like there is not a good way around this. If there are certain providers who are solo or you are contacting directly, is it ok to discuss specifics beforehand, or is it always done in the moment?.I'd say your best course of action is for new members to read reviews and have a pretty good idea of what services are on the table (MP pun intended). Keep in mind MPs may not offer all services to a new client like an escort would. Some require establishing a rapport. If there are plenty of reviews there is really no reason to talk services before you meet. If it's an unknown provider care should be taken, especially with MPs as they may be scared away. My understanding with MPs is this is an in-game decision and part of the excitement of discovery. Usually enough clues are dropped (teasing) to let you know she's willing to do more.