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Let's get this started!!Got a nice sugar bowl? I joined for a while last year but kind of struck out as my schedule requires a little more last minute scheduling. Was thinking of giving it a whirl again.
Josephr9999
05-09-19, 21:55
This one was a bit over-the-top aggressive with the messages. It ended here. (It's 2 hours not 3 and she said she is in the area often as she visits her friends).
I normally ask for 1000 for our first date, then 500 per date after that.
Since I'd b taking like 3 hrs drive time there and another 3 back I'd ask you send me part of it for gas to get there.
Lmk what you think and how long you wanted to hangout, for a hr or acouple hrs or the whole night?
I've met a couple on SA and had a 100% success rate. One was a left pro the other is a real struggling student. Yes, you can tell the difference! I'm also on their social media so college girls post college stuff. LOL. We need more data here though 😩.
Spaniard21
05-15-19, 12:39
I've met a couple on SA and had a 100% success rate. One was a left pro the other is a real struggling student. Yes, you can tell the difference! I'm also on their social media so college girls post college stuff. LOL. We need more data here though 😩.I second that. It does take a lot of patience and persistence, but there are some gems on that site!
Latest one is this for 400:
https://www.seeking.com/member/6b169066-2131-4fce-9940-32dfebace452
There are lots of available babes on Seeking Arrangements. You do have to cast a wide net. Its more cumbersome than contacting a pro. You typically have to do a meeting first (don't pay for her time, buy drinks is okay, though.).
Don't advance them money. It's impossible for them to resist the temptation to disappear without performing. It's some sort of programming bug in their matrix.
Also remember pro rates -- don't pay these girls more than pro rates. I've heard some ridiculous asks -- you could get a big name touring porn start for less. So be willing to say no and go one to the next one.
I've met a few who really don't know where their next dollar is coming from. On the other hand I'm not one to exploit desperation. But I just won't pay them far more than some doctor or lawyer is going to charge per hour.
So scan the forum every day, send out messages. Don't mention ppm etc. Once contact is made, switch to email or text, etc. Do your ppm mentions there. Set up meetings.
I usually lie a bit. Talk about how many times per month. 2 or 3 I say. Mostly its one and done. I do have some I repeat with. But they are into kink, which is harder to find.
Wound up too busy when in town this week but both of these ladies were DTF. Let me know if you make their pleasure.
Rider_Of_Sybians.
https://www.seeking.com/member/95b18f31-c5ba-41fc-a5ca-099ccbb8dfb4
Preppy Free-Spirit.
https://www.seeking.com/member/21a88928-6d86-4bcf-8546-839e280f985b
Spaniard21
06-24-19, 17:28
Wound up too busy when in town this week but both of these ladies were DTF. Let me know if you make their pleasure.
Rider_Of_Sybians.
https://www.seeking.com/member/95b18f31-c5ba-41fc-a5ca-099ccbb8dfb4
She is difficult to seal the deal but can be done for less than 300.
Preppy Free-Spirit.
https://www.seeking.com/member/21a88928-6d86-4bcf-8546-839e280f985bShe's fun but for much less than 300.
Arisvangua
06-25-19, 01:54
https://www.seeking.com/member/56ea1475-52f5-4c90-a7cb-93f03626feff
Seen her ads also, I'm just on the trigger ATM. But don't know if she's legit or not, and not waste my time.
Spaniard21
06-27-19, 11:36
https://www.seeking.com/member/56ea1475-52f5-4c90-a7cb-93f03626feff
Seen her ads also, I'm just on the trigger ATM. But don't know if she's legit or not, and not waste my time.She's for the most part legit, she does dissapear (travels). She's a pro. Worth it though.
HardWoodsman
07-01-19, 19:18
https://www.seeking.com/member/307d1688-dc7c-4673-87cf-368db51f5027
She wanted 500 for the evening. Can be had for less if you have some game and the promise of multiple visits.
This is a first. Struggling to tell if she's a pro or not. Meeting her this week and I'm getting cold feet. My batting avg might go down! Help guys, anyone have experience with her? https://www.seeking.com/member/d64982e5-70e9-4e15-ae58-8288520707c0.
Spaniard21
07-08-19, 10:19
This is a first. Struggling to tell if she's a pro or not. Meeting her this week and I'm getting cold feet. My batting avg might go down! Help guys, anyone have experience with her? https://www.seeking.com/member/d64982e5-70e9-4e15-ae58-8288520707c0.Looks pretty legit and lots of fun.
This one is nice and simply down on her luck. We had a quick meet up for post-dinner coffee / desserts and 30 min later asked her if she wanted to go my place, I got a smile and nod. Could've fucked but was in the mood for BBBJ. Long flight and was tired.
No price negotiation. I just gave her $$ even if she didn't ask.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6459d...b-018e7bfa68e7
Story, posted on wrong forum at first 😂.
This one is nice and simply down on her luck. We had a quick meet up for post-dinner coffee / desserts and 30 min later asked her if she wanted to go my place, I got a smile and nod. Could've fucked but was in the mood for BBBJ. Long flight and was tired.
No price negotiation. I just gave her $$ even if she didn't ask.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6459d...b-018e7bfa68e7
Story, posted on wrong forum at first 😂.Seems the ad went down.
Seems the ad went down.I just checked link, still working (here are screenshots). She didn't give her number 🤷127995;8205;9794;65039;.
HardWoodsman
07-19-19, 01:16
She's had couple different profiles and is a little heavier than the pictures suggest. She's submissive and open to most everything except Greek. Came to visit me at my downtown hotel and after she got comfortable we got down to business. She does have energy I'll give that.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2c6e3640-5dfc-4676-8685-f69496e43f81
Glad to see there is now a MN sugarbaby thread. I have been on and off SA for almost 4 year. Had some amazing experiences, both good and bad. I am 57 and focus mainly on college students in the 19-22 age group, with some exceptions, and funny thing is I have more woman than I have time or money to see. Have lost some really great ones in the last few months because I didn't have the time to see them as often as they wanted.
It does seem the allowance expectations has gone up some the last year or so and wanted to see if others have experienced the same things.
This is a first. Struggling to tell if she's a pro or not. Meeting her this week and I'm getting cold feet. My batting avg might go down! Help guys, anyone have experience with her? https://www.seeking.com/member/d64982e5-70e9-4e15-ae58-8288520707c0.I am saying pro on this one. Wants 250 to initial meet up and 700 is you move beyond that. Also has a friend if you want threesome, which is 150 each for initial meet up and 300 each to spend time together. Hope no one here is paying 250 for initial meet ups.
TimeToFish
08-26-19, 13:08
I am saying pro on this one. Wants 250 to initial meet up and 700 is you move beyond that. Also has a friend if you want threesome, which is 150 each for initial meet up and 300 each to spend time together. Hope no one here is paying 250 for initial meet ups.Same experience, total gsp.
HardWoodsman
08-27-19, 19:50
https://www.seeking.com/member/05e8bf82-4801-4877-81a5-d4016713ee4a
Outcall only and you have to work around her schedule. . Voluptuous body with lots of tattoos. Loves to fuck. Submissive. Upbeat and Total GFE / PSA experience. Happy to do anything asked.
Here are a few I have been talking to.
This one says she won't meet in person unless you pay $75 for six videos and 12 photos.
https://www.seeking.com/member/de9a6ce2-3b5e-4f30-9040-d63397ce5491
No married men.
https://www.seeking.com/member/af56ae5b-9562-49af-af3a-cf4352950d5f
Platonic only.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5458f2b8-dabc-4605-a5cc-48b899ccf7f1
Wants to meet at the club where she dances.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4e67ae07-6381-4999-8f0e-1cc40f386584
Keeping the good ones to myself for now. Have fun.
No sure on this one, her profile photo is about 10 years old so lost interest.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5afaf9af-d1b4-4194-8292-fd95c786765e
This one seems very eager to meet, but I have better options right now.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3afde379-17b6-4818-ae38-90d88c0094f6
500 minimum.
https://www.seeking.com/member/41031de3-0141-4ea7-988e-1e7a35f21513
Seems real nice, but looking more for adventure type dating.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6133204d-6519-4b68-8014-05373e144c62
Another that wants to meet at the club where she dances.
https://www.seeking.com/member/276712e6-3a5f-4b36-850a-3f533f0b2420
HardWoodsman
09-10-19, 16:22
Wants to meet at the club where she dances.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4e67ae07-6381-4999-8f0e-1cc40f386584
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Another that wants to meet at the club where she dances.
https://www.seeking.com/member/276712e6-3a5f-4b36-850a-3f533f0b2420Which clubs are they at? I might have to stop by and take a look.
Which clubs are they at? I might have to stop by and take a look.MissySky was at the Seville. Not sure about Harlee99 as she said she doesn't have a set schedule and would have to let me know when she is working.
OneBanananaTwo
09-11-19, 15:33
She's had couple different profiles and is a little heavier than the pictures suggest. She's submissive and open to most everything except Greek. Came to visit me at my downtown hotel and after she got comfortable we got down to business. She does have energy I'll give that.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2c6e3640-5dfc-4676-8685-f69496e43f81I wouldn't say she's a little heavier, she's more than that. Pics are easily 20 pounds ago.
Spaniard21
09-12-19, 10:10
So beware when you negotiate.
Example is this one:
https://www.seeking.com/member/f6cd7871-2a69-4796-95bc-947166e4d188
Her other username is HappyAsEver.
Spaniard21
09-12-19, 10:15
Here are a few I have been talking to.
This one says she won't meet in person unless you pay $75 for six videos and 12 photos.
https://www.seeking.com/member/de9a6ce2-3b5e-4f30-9040-d63397ce5491
She told me something similar, she's crazy.
Anything Cool
09-12-19, 21:46
Thinking of exploring the sugar bowl. Has anyone had experiences, good or bad with the What's Your Price website?
Spaniard21
09-13-19, 15:20
Thinking of exploring the sugar bowl. Has anyone had experiences, good or bad with the What's Your Price website?If you're into paying for a date / meeting then by all means go for it. I don't see value in it, as most of the girls on there are there to make a quick buck.
HardWoodsman
09-13-19, 17:25
Thinking of exploring the sugar bowl. Has anyone had experiences, good or bad with the What's Your Price website?A lot of the same girls on WYP and SA. The pay as you go model of WYP is annoying. There are just too many flakes and scams on either sight to pay to message a bot on WYP. Try the SA app. I believe they have a weekly rate and you can message as much as you want. Reach out to a lot of SBs and get their number or What's app and then work through them.
Hello Fellow Sugar Daddies.
I'm newly venturing in MN for sugar babies and would request your help. Thanks in advance.
RoSteele65
09-16-19, 12:24
Hello Fellow Sugar Daddies.
I'm newly venturing in MN for sugar babies and would request your help. Thanks in advance.I'd love to get some help with this too. Seems a lot of the girls want me to be more explicit about allowances when we message. What's a typical range that you tell her? Some seem to want to meet first for a drink or coffee. Do you give an allowance for that meeting? Any suggestions about how to proceed with the negotiations? I'm happy to give info about how things are progressing from my end as well.
RoSteele65
09-17-19, 13:37
I'm looking on WYP and not sure how making an offer works. It seems like SA most women want to meet first and see if things look good with you. Then we agree on an allowance.
On WYP, is the offer for the meet and greet or are we setting up a date for the mutual benefits? I do t want to be shelling out $ to just meet and have a coffee. What amount do most of you put for the offer?
https://www.seeking.com/member/6ee8ebc1-df19-4dd6-8400-ba7545a390f7
Met this Latina and she is expecting 300 per meet, I didn't partake further as I felt she is not worth. PM for any further details.
https://www.seeking.com/member/27733d77-25f2-482d-b8b3-1a12848b5ccc
Met this one for a BJ in her van. Nice face with glasses and big tits but body is kind of bbw. Not worth full service. PM for any further details. She will do BJ for 50 or so.
This one is ready to do a m&g but she little far to me.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6bcac04c-cd5b-40e4-9238-af42ced4a19a
This one is ready to meet, yet to decide when.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e4ae74de-183b-4798-976e-e12398804e8d
https://www.seeking.com/member/334df944-aca8-457e-872f-8852d29b934d
Talking to this one.Dtf but wants 300 ppm
This one seems legit and would be a lot of fun. However wants 100 per day as a "pre-allowance" to text until she gets to know you and than 2000 monthly to meet in person.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3b6c5d39-9b23-47a0-b7dc-a81c912fc94b
Boy, I'm glad to have found this forum. Here's to keeping it active.
https://www.seeking.com/member/57407226-ef5d-44c4-81ef-43d9b2d8ec4d
Attractive, slender woman with a decent career who can hold an enjoyable conversation. Her ethnic mix is Eastern European and Mexican. No games and ready to meet ASAP. She asked what I'd offer and pounced on 4 bills to meet at my place the same day.
More intel where this came from, on her and others. I'm especially interested in slender or fit women (runners, college athletes, etc.).
Spaniard21
09-22-19, 11:56
This one seems legit and would be a lot of fun. However wants 100 per day as a "pre-allowance" to text until she gets to know you and than 2000 monthly to meet in person.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3b6c5d39-9b23-47a0-b7dc-a81c912fc94bShe's not even that attractive (to me at least). $100 per day? LOL.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d64982e5-70e9-4e15-ae58-8288520707c0
Hit her up as she's right in my wheelhouse (tall and thin). Inquired about PPM, to which she's open. Offered 500 and she countered with 800. Told her I'd meet her there if BB but stated she doesn't do that.
I've heard 800 PPM three times in the last couple days from what I'd consider upper-bracket SBs in our market.
She's not even that attractive (to me at least). $100 per day? LOL.Definitely overpaying, please stop doing this. Not everyone here is super rich LOL.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d64982e5-70e9-4e15-ae58-8288520707c0
Hit her up as she's right in my wheelhouse (tall and thin). Inquired about PPM, to which she's open. Offered 500 and she countered with 800. Told her I'd meet her there if BB but stated she doesn't do that.
I've heard 800 PPM three times in the last couple days from what I'd consider upper-bracket SBs in our market.I agree she is hot but no pussy is 800 worth for one time.500 itself is too high in my book so i hope she'll come back to you.
Spaniard21
09-23-19, 10:11
https://www.seeking.com/member/d64982e5-70e9-4e15-ae58-8288520707c0
Hit her up as she's right in my wheelhouse (tall and thin). Inquired about PPM, to which she's open. Offered 500 and she countered with 800. Told her I'd meet her there if BB but stated she doesn't do that.
I've heard 800 PPM three times in the last couple days from what I'd consider upper-bracket SBs in our market.500? That's a bit steep, I've had success with starting much lower than that.
This one seems legit and would be a lot of fun. However wants 100 per day as a "pre-allowance" to text until she gets to know you and than 2000 monthly to meet in person.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3b6c5d39-9b23-47a0-b7dc-a81c912fc94bI'd definitely hit her, though not for $2 k / mo. Any "pre-allowance" request is crazy; I don't even compensate for an initial M&G beyond the cost of food and / or drinks, and reasonable SBs have been fine with that.
This one is ready to do a m&g but she little far to me.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6bcac04c-cd5b-40e4-9238-af42ced4a19a
This one is ready to meet, yet to decide when.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e4ae74de-183b-4798-976e-e12398804e8dThe second one messaged me about 3 months back and seemed legit, friendly, and keen to meet. She's pretty IMO, but a little big for me to pursue without more data. I'd be interested in hearing more if you meet her.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8df3ac9b-b6bd-4c73-9541-388a7559618f
Things started out well via messaging this weekend, tacitly agreeing to 300 PPM. She offered to meet for lunch today and we settled on a location of my choice. She has a smokin' teaser pic IMO, but I wanted to see a little more for confirmation and shared my private pics before requesting hers. Said she wasn't comfortable sharing hers on the site but would send some by text (huh? She then texted once (without sending pics) and ghosted. No reply to a follow-up this morning asking if we're still on.
Definitely overpaying, please stop doing this. Not everyone here is super rich LOL.I was just stating what she was asking for so others would be aware. No way in hell I would pay the 100 per day or 2000 per month LOL. Here is my response to her?
"Not to be rude, but are there really guys stupid enough to pay you that? If so, good for you. I was thinking something much less".
https://www.seeking.com/member/8df3ac9b-b6bd-4c73-9541-388a7559618f
Things started out well via messaging this weekend, tacitly agreeing to 300 PPM. She offered to meet for lunch today and we settled on a location of my choice. She has a smokin' teaser pic IMO, but I wanted to see a little more for confirmation and shared my private pics before requesting hers. Said she wasn't comfortable sharing hers on the site but would send some by text (huh? She then texted once (without sending pics) and ghosted. No reply to a follow-up this morning asking if we're still on.To me, her profile has a number of indicators that there is a good chance she is going to be a waste of time. But I guess you never know until you try.
To me, her profile has a number of indicators that there is a good chance she is going to be a waste of time. But I guess you never know until you try.Lo and behold, she returned from Ghostville and shared her pics after I posted my report. Said she got busy at work. Blah, blah. She is pretty damn hot all around. I agree about her vague and sometimes grammatically incorrect profile text, but the pic really drew me in. Asked for a rain check but I have virtually no interest after meeting a promising top-shelf SB in recent days.
Wound up too busy when in town this week but both of these ladies were DTF. Let me know if you make their pleasure.
Rider_Of_Sybians.
https://www.seeking.com/member/95b18f31-c5ba-41fc-a5ca-099ccbb8dfb4
Preppy Free-Spirit.
https://www.seeking.com/member/21a88928-6d86-4bcf-8546-839e280f985bLooks (to me) like Rider_Of_Sybians is back with a new profile. Possibly after getting bolt-ons? I don't recall her chest being that big.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c78295fe-017a-43c1-8213-76bc1fcbcd89
Wish I'd have put more of a move on Preppy Free Spirit; I thought she was smokin' but her profile is now down.
Looks (to me) like Rider_Of_Sybians is back with a new profile. Possibly after getting bolt-ons? I don't recall her chest being that big.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c78295fe-017a-43c1-8213-76bc1fcbcd89
Wish I'd have put more of a move on Preppy Free Spirit; I thought she was smokin' but her profile is now down.Yes that is her. She is actually a lesbian who is into bondage and fetish. If your into that she is your gal.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8dad0bb9-8704-49ca-8f9e-6d44b685b967
Way above average in both appearance and intellect, but she's in the Fargo-Moorhead area and indicated that she'd like to be flown down here. I would have moved toward meeting apart from the distance.
Here are a few I have been talking to.
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Wants to meet at the club where she dances.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4e67ae07-6381-4999-8f0e-1cc40f386584
Keeping the good ones to myself for now. Have fun.Messaged her last weekend. After lots of back and forth, she quoted 700 for BB in a 2-3 hr meet. Says she usually asks 600 for PPM. Saw her private pics and while she is hot, I wasn't quite feeling it given her high quote. She also seemed more "pro" than I typically prefer.
No mention of wanting to meet at her club, fortunately.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8dad0bb9-8704-49ca-8f9e-6d44b685b967
Way above average in both appearance and intellect, but she's in the Fargo-Moorhead area and indicated that she'd like to be flown down here. I would have moved toward meeting apart from the distance.I saw her a few years back when she was in the Chaska area and your assessment is accurate.
https://www.seeking.com/member/85a7cb0c-a654-4d4b-a007-2302f2632419
Any scoop on her? We've been going back and forth due to conflicting schedules; she doesn't live locally. She's near the very top of my interest list currently.
HardWoodsman
09-27-19, 17:32
https://www.seeking.com/member/85a7cb0c-a654-4d4b-a007-2302f2632419
Any scoop on her? We've been going back and forth due to conflicting schedules; she doesn't live locally. She's near the very top of my interest list currently.She's hard to schedule with for sure. When she's in town she is high volume and will ghost you for a better offer. Fantastic ass though. She runs with a few other girls who are almost as hot.
She's hard to schedule with for sure. When she's in town she is high volume and will ghost you for a better offer. Fantastic ass though. She runs with a few other girls who are almost as hot.Thanks for the info. She offered 500 and I bit right away as she's nearly a perfect 10 for me in appearance, and she didn't come off as too flaky (just busy). Hopefully meeting her offer encourages her to come through.
Thanks for the info. She offered 500 and I bit right away as she's nearly a perfect 10 for me in appearance, and she didn't come off as too flaky (just busy). Hopefully meeting her offer encourages her to come through.I think the assessment of her is correct. Have not seen her or her friend, but have chatted with them both and checked out their social media accounts. Seems like the are working it very hard and having more frequent trips to the Minneapolis. I assume they are fun either individually or together. Although not sure they are worth getting in a bidding over war since there are many other options similar or better options on SA.
I lost interest since they are likely fucking multiple guys each day when they are here. I don't expect exclusively in my arrangements, but also not looking for someone willing to meet with anyone with a few hundred dollars and don't want to be the second or third guy of the day.
I prefer the college age girls who are too busy or not interested in having an relationship and just looking for some occasional NSA fun and little extra cash. They typically are not getting any on a regular basis and are begging for it when we get together, even though they are like 35 to 38 years younger than me. Most of them have never have been with anyone who knows how to please them and a few I have meet have only been with 2 or 3 other men their entire life, which is probably a good day for some of these girls.
But that is the great thing about SA, lots of options so we can all find what we want. Just hope Bernie does not get elected since free college and loan forgiveness will have negative impact on SA LOL.
Here is her friends profile. If you are seeing one for 500, you may as well kick in a couple hundred more and get them both at once.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c4ae5af1-a5b4-4a23-bed8-29686e32a996
HardWoodsman
09-29-19, 11:17
Met Yourfavedistraction for a short date. Beautiful girl. Sweet, funny and easy to talk to. Huge tits but much, much bigger booty that the pictures would indicate. She is petite BBW not just thick. Fantastic BBBJ.
If you like big butts and cannot lie she's the one.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d0ccdc02-37dc-47ce-91f7-0dbed8b55bfd
Met Yourfavedistraction for a short date. Beautiful girl. Sweet, funny and easy to talk to. Huge tits but much, much bigger booty that the pictures would indicate. She is petite BBW not just thick. Fantastic BBBJ.
If you like big butts and cannot lie she's the one.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d0ccdc02-37dc-47ce-91f7-0dbed8b55bfdNice and thanks for the intel. Can I know what's the damage and location preference?
https://www.seeking.com/member/094a47da-6aab-4ecd-b3ff-093fbdd58ee7
Careful with this Latina, could be scam. Asking for upfront money for travel as she claims out of town from north Dakota and frequents to IL and MN.
https://www.seeking.com/member/dd298499-504d-4a40-842c-fab97324c158
She wants a minimum of 500-600 per meet.
I think the assessment of her is correct. Have not seen her or her friend, but have chatted with them both and checked out their social media accounts. Seems like the are working it very hard and having more frequent trips to the Minneapolis. I assume they are fun either individually or together. Although not sure they are worth getting in a bidding over war since there are many other options similar or better options on SA.
I lost interest since they are likely fucking multiple guys each day when they are here. I don't expect exclusively in my arrangements, but also not looking for someone willing to meet with anyone with a few hundred dollars and don't want to be the second or third guy of the day.Good comments Ryan and I agree with most everything you said. Especially about Bernie (LOL) and the many options available to meet our specific tastes.
I generally prefer college SBs as well for the reasons you mentioned, and my experience with them has been strikingly similar. My preference for BB also leads me to pursue SBs with time for only one arrangement and a good reason to defer having children (I. E. , their education).
That said, Bella hits my bullseye hard with her model face, tall height and (especially) rail-thin frame. If there's another local SB who can run with her on all three counts, I've not seen her. I'll accept the pro experience in exchange for the level of visual and tactile stimulation that Bella can provide.
I'll certainly check out Bella's friend. I tried searching for their social media accounts but no luck -- if you'd care to pass them along via PM, I'd be grateful.
In the past few weeks, I've been seeing a top-flight SB on a PPM basis. I'm very happy with her -- so happy that I'm considering moving toward an allowance situation, which would be new territory for me.
When we began communicating, I offered a higher PPM rate vs. Monthly allowance for the same number of meets. My understanding is that the security of a (ostensibly) long-term allowance is often traded for a discounted rate. (Am I thinking of this correctly?) At the same time, I can understand an SB resisting a backslide in income.
My objective is to either a) maintain the status quo for a little less damage per month, or b) maintain the current monthly PPM total with some extras -- perhaps a bonus meeting, more time per visit, a trip now and again, etc. My least favorite option would be staying in a PPM arrangement, but I'd be willing to do it as she's the all-around best SB I've met to date.
How have you handled situations like this? Anything else I should consider? I'd be grateful for any insight you could offer.
https://www.seeking.com/member/10840b56-3c55-4256-b9a3-73bc1dcb43ae
Met her for dinner. Very attractive in person, excellent conversationalist and super chill. Negotiated 300 PPM and set up a meeting at her place about week later.
There was some confusion about the time we'd picked (unsure whose fault honestly), and I wasn't able to make it at the time she texted later. In the meantime, she'd made other plans for times that worked for me that day. I'm passing her along as I've been focusing on someone else recently.
One possible flag: She asked if I could Venmo her, which immediately made me think she's more pro than I imagined. That or I'm just not down with the latest personal payment technologies. In either case, I wasn't comfortable with that sort of paper trail on the first real meeting.
https://www.seeking.com/member/10840b56-3c55-4256-b9a3-73bc1dcb43ae
Met her for dinner. Very attractive in person, excellent conversationalist and super chill. Negotiated 300 PPM and set up a meeting at her place about week later.
There was some confusion about the time we'd picked (unsure whose fault honestly), and I wasn't able to make it at the time she texted later. In the meantime, she'd made other plans for times that worked for me that day. I'm passing her along as I've been focusing on someone else recently.
One possible flag: She asked if I could Venmo her, which immediately made me think she's more pro than I imagined. That or I'm just not down with the latest personal payment technologies. In either case, I wasn't comfortable with that sort of paper trail on the first real meeting.
Claims she is platonic only on her profile. Did she agree to play for 300?
And I'm pretty sure she could be a pro or gps if she asks for online payment upfront before meeting.
In the past few weeks, I've been seeing a top-flight SB on a PPM basis. I'm very happy with her -- so happy that I'm considering moving toward an allowance situation, which would be new territory for me.
When we began communicating, I offered a higher PPM rate vs. Monthly allowance for the same number of meets. My understanding is that the security of a (ostensibly) long-term allowance is often traded for a discounted rate. (Am I thinking of this correctly?) At the same time, I can understand an SB resisting a backslide in income.
My objective is to either a) maintain the status quo for a little less damage per month, or b) maintain the current monthly PPM total with some extras -- perhaps a bonus meeting, more time per visit, a trip now and again, etc. My least favorite option would be staying in a PPM arrangement, but I'd be willing to do it as she's the all-around best SB I've met to date.
How have you handled situations like this? Anything else I should consider? I'd be grateful for any insight you could offer.I did exactly what you describe. Maybe my experience can be useful to you.
Have been seeing my current half my age, 32 D engineering undergrad student sugar baby for +/- 8 months. Meets started as meal then couple hours duration PPM which she hosted. Evolved to one meet and one overnight per week, same donation. So I suppose there was increase in time without increase in income.
Organically started doing occasional hikes, concerts, out of town trips, cooking dinner together at her apartment. I would always leave something but not the usual PPM amount: a $200 Victoria's Secret gift card to buy some sexy lingerie, picked up her car payment when her roommate was late with the rent, a new high end sex toy, set up a pre-paid appointment for manicure / pedicure on her day off, paid for her textbooks when the semester started, bought her a new phone when she dropped hers in the lake while she was paddle boarding.
That established that I was there for her when she was in need but stopped the transaction PPM nature of our dynamic. So no allowance now, and no PPM. We enjoy one lunch and fuck plus one overnight together per week. She would see me more often if my schedule allowed.
Adrianne00 is her SA profile name and her digits 6144287561.
After agreeing to meet at a place and time, she texted asking me to do online transfer in order to meet.
Claims she is platonic only on her profile. Did she agree to play for 300?
And I'm pretty sure she could be a pro or gps if she asks for online payment upfront before meeting.She did agree to play for 300. Definitely not platonic only. (I wouldn't bother otherwise.).
I should clarify on her Venmo request: I understood that she wanted me to pay at or after the meet, not before.
https://www.seeking.com/member/1e9e280b-7677-401f-8ce4-2ce133d4bbc1
Any intel about this Russian girl?
https://www.seeking.com/member/1e9e280b-7677-401f-8ce4-2ce133d4bbc1
Any intel about this Russian girl?Update Asking 300 but agreed for 200. Dtf.
In the past few weeks, I've been seeing a top-flight SB on a PPM basis. I'm very happy with her -- so happy that I'm considering moving toward an allowance situation, which would be new territory for me.
When we began communicating, I offered a higher PPM rate vs. Monthly allowance for the same number of meets. My understanding is that the security of a (ostensibly) long-term allowance is often traded for a discounted rate. (Am I thinking of this correctly?) At the same time, I can understand an SB resisting a backslide in income.
My objective is to either a) maintain the status quo for a little less damage per month, or b) maintain the current monthly PPM total with some extras -- perhaps a bonus meeting, more time per visit, a trip now and again, etc. My least favorite option would be staying in a PPM arrangement, but I'd be willing to do it as she's the all-around best SB I've met to date.
How have you handled situations like this? Anything else I should consider? I'd be grateful for any insight you could offer.I have tried the allowance route a couple times and never worked out as much in my favor as I had hoped. I am almost 57 and married, so my experiences are probably quite different than a younger single person. But here are a couple thoughts.
If you are married with limited availability to meet up and require a hotel for each meeting, allowance is probably not a good idea.
If you like seeing more than one woman and not be exclusive, allowance is probably not a good idea.
If she has not shown that she can be trusted, allowance is probably not a good idea.
If she is seeing multiple men, allowance is probably not a good idea.
If scheduling time with her is difficult, allowance is probably not a good idea.
Again just my opinions and every arrangement is different. For me PPM is so much easier. Given the right set of circumstances an allowance agreement would be wonderful, but fairly certain that is not going to happen for me.
BorderTraveler
10-04-19, 12:39
If you like seeing more than one woman and not be exclusive, allowance is probably not a good idea.
If she has not shown that she can be trusted, allowance is probably not a good idea.
If she is seeing multiple men, allowance is probably not a good idea.
If scheduling time with her is difficult, allowance is probably not a good idea.I have to agrees with at Ryan33 on these. All very good points and ones I have stuck to.
Just to follow up on my allowance post. I meet a 19 yr old student this week. Coffee on Wednesday and hotel yesterday. She is probably a 9+ in looks, slender like a model with perky B / C tits and a cute face, although some might consider her too slender. I would say she is a black version of Bella who has been discussed recently, but with nicer tits.
Won't go into details, but we had an amazing time. One of my best experiences ever for a straight hotel room meeting. Best experiences are usually outside the hotel, like fucking them on my desk after everyone else has left work. But that is another story. Issue is money is important to her and we agreed at 400, although I thinks she wants more. First guy she meet on SA gave her 700 for the first meeting and only went 1 round, unlike the multiple we did yesterday. Second guy, bought her a $500 necklace at their meet and greet. I couldn't figure out what he was giving her for an allowance, but he couldn't get it up and just fingered her a couple times a week. Sometimes she would stay for 6 hours. He had a really strange fetish request that turned her off, so she ghosted him.
My point is, she would be perfect for an allowance situation if you found a number you could agree on. She would probably meet couple time a week and occasional overnight similar to Readct's arrangement. But I can't do it given my situation since I can't meet that often or do overnights. Lucky, I may bring to Florida with me for a few days later this month. Otherwise, just going to ride this out as long as I can or she starts wanting too much for PPM.
Not giving her info out yet, so don't ask LOL.
BorderTraveler
10-04-19, 13:30
I just checked link, still working (here are screenshots). She didn't give her number.Months ago this girl ghosted me for a meet. Talked to her on the phone and everything. I see her profile comes and goes. Just a heads up in case any set something up with her, she may disappear on you.
HardWoodsman
10-04-19, 17:04
She contacted me and we went quickly to text. Asked for 800 and did not want to negotiate.
https://www.seeking.com/member/10840b56-3c55-4256-b9a3-73bc1dcb43ae
Met her for dinner. Very attractive in person, excellent conversationalist and super chill. Negotiated 300 PPM and set up a meeting at her place about week later.Just curious how many meet for dinner for the initial meet and great. I only do coffee or drinks, depending on their age and time of day. That way if I am not interested I can be out the door in 30 minutes or less. Feel that dinner is too much of a time commitment for someone I have not meet.
My meet and greet with the 19 yr old I meet this week was little different. After the initial pleasantries, she started asking me questions and she kept looking at her phone. It was obvious that she had a list of questions that she was reading from, so I asked her about it. She admitted to it and said she had prepared as if it was a job interview, including the way she dressed. She claimed they we her own questions and she hadn't downloaded them from a website. When we were leaving, I asked if once she finished grading my answers if she was going to text me grade. Giving our meeting the next day, I must have passed LOL.
https://www.seeking.com/member/33aa7fc5-7b05-4320-8c20-d3e3937a7490
If you're into tall and thin, she looks potentially exceptional from her teaser pic. She "prefers" that the "first few meets" be platonic, and claims she's fetched 150 for these in the past. I replied that I've never comp'd for such meets and asked how much she wants when things heat up. Unsurprisingly, no response to date.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a3b1d108-8697-4203-9c37-d18b033ee136
Readily accepted 250 PPM. She then asked for electronic payment at the beginning of the meet, but accepted my counter of cash in a 50/50 split (start / finish) for the first few meetings. Agreeable to an uncompensated M&G provided "our initial meeting occur at the one location for under an hour. " She also "require (s) a condom for vaginal as well as oral sex without exceptions. " No thanks.
Just curious how many meet for dinner for the initial meet and great. I only do coffee or drinks, depending on their age and time of day. That way if I am not interested I can be out the door in 30 minutes or less. Feel that dinner is too much of a time commitment for someone I have not meet.
My meet and greet with the 19 yr old I meet this week was little different. After the initial pleasantries, she started asking me questions and she kept looking at her phone. It was obvious that she had a list of questions that she was reading from, so I asked her about it. She admitted to it and said she had prepared as if it was a job interview, including the way she dressed. She claimed they we her own questions and she hadn't downloaded them from a website. When we were leaving, I asked if once she finished grading my answers if she was going to text me grade. Giving our meeting the next day, I must have passed LOL.I'll invite them to dinner on the rare occasion I have both the free time (my main limiting factor) and feel like eating out anyway. Being married, such opportunities are uncommon, though several came up in the past few weeks.
My usual meetups are weekend lunches. My go-to spot is cheap, unique and local so I can grab a meal (which I need anyway) and gauge chemistry with minimal loss of time and money.
Interesting experience with your new SB Ryan. Sounds like it may have been a bit awkward conversationally, but ultimately a net positive in how seriously she took the meet. Glad you've found a keeper.
I have tried the allowance route a couple times and never worked out as much in my favor as I had hoped. I am almost 57 and married, so my experiences are probably quite different than a younger single person. But here are a couple thoughts.
If you are married with limited availability to meet up and require a hotel for each meeting, allowance is probably not a good idea.
If you like seeing more than one woman and not be exclusive, allowance is probably not a good idea.
If she has not shown that she can be trusted, allowance is probably not a good idea.
If she is seeing multiple men, allowance is probably not a good idea.
If scheduling time with her is difficult, allowance is probably not a good idea.
Again just my opinions and every arrangement is different. For me PPM is so much easier. Given the right set of circumstances an allowance agreement would be wonderful, but fairly certain that is not going to happen for me.Right on point, can't say better.
I got her to text a few weeks ago. Tried to set up a meet and greet and she kept having to reschedule, so I gave up.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3610a14b-dd55-473c-a0c4-1a1e068b7ddc
https://www.seeking.com/member/2fdf8076-d8eb-4e19-b3b4-fd4920eb41b2
https://www.seeking.com/member/2fdf8076-d8eb-4e19-b3b4-fd4920eb41b2They sent me this message:
"Hey 2 girls looking for fun 💙. Text me if interested 💋 6514196254".
Guess there is a chance they are real, but I doubt it. That is just my opinion I could be wrong.
Interesting experience with your new SB Ryan. Sounds like it may have been a bit awkward conversationally, but ultimately a net positive in how seriously she took the meet. Glad you've found a keeper.This month marks the 4th anniversary of when I created my profile. Have had a few conversations that were much more awkward, like when the MMA fighter ex-boyfriend showed up and sat down with us. Or when another pulled a gun from her purse and said give me all your money. This was much less stressful than those LOL.
I would say the last year has been the best for me, despite the fact there is way more BS on the site. Might be that I am getting smarter or maybe the fact I changed my age from 56 to 46 on my profile. I have actually moved on from a few that were terrific because I didn't have time for all of them. Still seems I am always looking for something better or that I consider better value.
HardWoodsman
10-07-19, 21:09
Any info on Maddy?
https://www.seeking.com/member/6fbc7b83-3862-4e10-bbf7-c042a815ab4e
Any info on Maddy?
https://www.seeking.com/member/6fbc7b83-3862-4e10-bbf7-c042a815ab4eI exchanged messages with her a long time back, things seemed little off with her and never went anywhere.
https://www.seeking.com/member/27733d77-25f2-482d-b8b3-1a12848b5ccc
Supposed to be a fun BJ in car as she is the one texted me multiple times as we met before but turned out as a cash and dash. Careful as she is roaming on her old minivan with a Latino. PM for any details.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d983068a-ccf3-4877-b440-3a9fc8e3b0df
Her profile text has flags, but I reached out for kicks as I really like her face and status as a college athlete. Long story short, she wants 4-6 bills to ". Just go have dinner. Give men company. " Um, no.
Seems like the college age ladies expect hundreds to go on dates that demand no sex ever. I would be willing to have a couple non sexual encounters provided things evolve into a sex by the 3rd date. I look for chemistry and having a connection makes it better but this site may be better with women who are past college and know what they are doing in the bedroom.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d983068a-ccf3-4877-b440-3a9fc8e3b0df
Her profile text has flags, but I reached out for kicks as I really like her face and status as a college athlete. Long story short, she wants 4-6 bills to ". Just go have dinner. Give men company. " Um, no.
https://www.seeking.com/member/28dab948-bd82-34a8-3110-963b2e84b79a
Profile Pics are old and she is way bigger than what's shown. Did a quick meet last week and not worth the fuck.
I've previously shared this one privately: https://www.seeking.com/member/beb64...9-be15009e51f5.
Talked extensively on the phone and met her for dinner a few weeks back. Good looking girl; kind of a sleeper IMO with a babyface and a well above average body. Admits to having social anxiety however, which is more apparent over the phone than in person. She's a little eccentric / weird, but tolerable for what she brings to the table physically IMO. She was busing it home after dinner on a weekday (she holds a job in a professional setting and does drive), so the best I got was some FK at her bus stop. I tried a couple times to extend things that night but no-go.
Unusual in that she mainly wants experiences with a guy some of which are pretty modest -- not cash. (Being married, that's a liability, but it could be an asset for someone else.) Also strikes me as rather aloof (in keeping with her personality), and I think the possibility of scoring with her is less certain than with a more traditional SB. Sexually open per our conversation; my hunch says she'd be a terrific lay IF you could get her in the sack. Bottom line: I would have pursued her further if not for other interests.
I've previously shared this one privately: https://www.seeking.com/member/beb64...9-be15009e51f5.
Talked extensively on the phone and met her for dinner a few weeks back. Good looking girl; kind of a sleeper IMO with a babyface and a well above average body. Admits to having social anxiety however, which is more apparent over the phone than in person. She's a little eccentric / weird, but tolerable for what she brings to the table physically IMO. She was busing it home after dinner on a weekday (she holds a job in a professional setting and does drive), so the best I got was some FK at her bus stop. I tried a couple times to extend things that night but no-go.
Unusual in that she mainly wants experiences with a guy some of which are pretty modest -- not cash. (Being married, that's a liability, but it could be an asset for someone else.) Also strikes me as rather aloof (in keeping with her personality), and I think the possibility of scoring with her is less certain than with a more traditional SB. Sexually open per our conversation; my hunch says she'd be a terrific lay IF you could get her in the sack. Bottom line: I would have pursued her further if not for other interests.https://www.seeking.com/member/beb64343-e1f3-4aa0-83c9-be15009e51f5
Spaniard21
10-11-19, 13:17
https://www.seeking.com/member/3769a49a-e29f-456f-92cf-9d3a60393bd0
Her name is Lila, she has since blocked me. Plays a good part of playing the innocent victim. I. e. Needs rent money and will promise to pay you back. Careful with these wannabe scam artists.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e9099f82-7d34-4761-adf8-57726b178725
We've been going back and forth for a couple weeks trying to schedule a meeting. Any scoop? (Her mention of video chat is new and hasn't been part of our discussion.).
https://www.seeking.com/member/e9099f82-7d34-4761-adf8-57726b178725
We've been going back and forth for a couple weeks trying to schedule a meeting. Any scoop? (Her mention of video chat is new and hasn't been part of our discussion.).I would bet you are not going to meet any time soon. Obviously, the video chatting is a bad sign, as is the mentorship tag and intellectual stimulation comment. I would move on for now and maybe check back in a while and see if she is still around. At some point reality might set in for her and she will either abandon her profile or be more open to meeting in person.
I have had some luck following up in a few weeks and just asking how they doing and if they have had any luck finding what they are looking for. The answer is always no they have not found anything. So, I suggest we have a brief in face meeting in public with no expectations of anything beyond that.
I have had some luck following up in a few weeks and just asking how they doing and if they have had any luck finding what they are looking for. The answer is always no they have not found anything. So, I suggest we have a brief in face meeting in public with no expectations of anything beyond that.This is sound strategy in my experience, especially with new, hot SBs. Sometimes they'll come back in a few days at a significant discount. (Exactly what happened with my current main SB.).
Renting decent hotel rooms almost every week is getting old, and spendy, so I've been considering more affordable and less time-consuming options.
1. Incentivizing use of my SBs dorm room.
She currently occupies her own suite at the single rate due to a school snafu.
I don't look old and would not appear terribly out of place in a residence hall. Still, she was understandably leery of the idea on our first meeting (mainly concerned with what her hallmates might think) and we haven't discussed it since. If some extra cash that I'm already spending would be carrot enough to outweigh her concerns, I'd part with it. I'd rather pay her an extra $100 for meets that occur at her place than shell out at least that much to a hotel. This is the most convenient but least likely option IMO.
I'm looking into the numbers, but if they're reasonable, I'd even be open to subsidize her staying in her own suite if we can meet there on a regular basis; she'd enjoy the considerable benefit of her own living space the rest of the time.
2. Renting a cheap place on the side.
I've poked around a bit online but haven't found anything both local and suitable for less than the cost of weekly hotels. From a privacy standpoint, renting a room in another home is out. I'd also rather not drive a long way to digs in the 'burbs.
3. Renting a shared sexpad.
I'm curious how much interest there may be in pooling resources into a shared sexpad. Ideally, it would be located near the you (SB Central), which is near the geographic center of the metro anyway. This would likely be the cheapest option per capita, though logistics could be a headache. I wouldn't be in a position to take a lead on it, but would contribute toward it.
Thoughts / suggestions on any of these ideas? I'd be grateful as always.
I'm curious how much interest there may be in pooling resources into a shared sexpad. Ideally, it would be located near the you (SB Central), which is near the geographic center of the metro anyway. This would likely be the cheapest option per capita, though logistics could be a headache. I wouldn't be in a position to take a lead on it, but would contribute toward it.
Thoughts / suggestions on any of these ideas? I'd be grateful as always.Yes getting the hotel rooms can be a pain. I have had pretty good luck with Priceline and Hotwire, but this summer was tough. Prices seem to have dropped some and I have done it enough that if I use the Express deals where they don't show the name I can usually predict which place I will get. An alternative is to bring them to my office after hours, especially if we are short on time. Some of them really get off getting fuck on my desk or the conference room table. In a real tight spot my car is always an option. I have a prior SB, who I don't see on a regular basis any longer due the fact she has a serious boyfriend, but contacts me occasionally to give me road head as she calls it.
I have went to their home or apartment on occasion, but never in a dorm room. Might be a nice onetime fantasy type situation, but don't really want to hang out in a dorm too much as I would probably attract unwanted attention due to my age.
I have read about people getting specific apartments or sharing, but like you say the logistics could be difficult to manage. Would really need to trust the others involved, it is easy enough to hide some cameras around to record the activity LOL.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e9099f82-7d34-4761-adf8-57726b178725
We've been going back and forth for a couple weeks trying to schedule a meeting. Any scoop? (Her mention of video chat is new and hasn't been part of our discussion.).Update:
She suggested late last week that we meet yesterday (Sunday) at noon. I responded with a lunch spot near campus, but she never returned my message. Today SA says her profile is "no longer active"; she didn't simply block me.
Yes getting the hotel rooms can be a pain. I have had pretty good luck with Priceline and Hotwire, but this summer was tough. Prices seem to have dropped some and I have done it enough that if I use the Express deals where they don't show the name I can usually predict which place I will get. An alternative is to bring them to my office after hours, especially if we are short on time. Some of them really get off getting fuck on my desk or the conference room table. In a real tight spot my car is always an option. I have a prior SB, who I don't see on a regular basis any longer due the fact she has a serious boyfriend, but contacts me occasionally to give me road head as she calls it.
I have went to their home or apartment on occasion, but never in a dorm room. Might be a nice onetime fantasy type situation, but don't really want to hang out in a dorm too much as I would probably attract unwanted attention due to my age.
I have read about people getting specific apartments or sharing, but like you say the logistics could be difficult to manage. Would really need to trust the others involved, it is easy enough to hide some cameras around to record the activity LOL.Trust would be a hurdle for a shared pad like you said. Someone bugging the place was one of my first concerns, along with everyone paying their share and keeping it in good order for the next guy. Scheduling could at least be handled by an online calendar.
Great that you have a legit office to use after hours. On a smaller scale, I've seen some pretty cheap office / commercial spaces along University Ave (among other nearby places), but I'm not sure how well one could pull off their use as a sexpad. A full-size futon could pass for seating, but no attached bathroom is a frequent minus. Sound insulation would be an obvious issue during business hours.
How much do the Priceline and Hotwire deals usually set you back?
https://www.seeking.com/member/2fdf8076-d8eb-4e19-b3b4-fd4920eb41b2These 2 are a couple of thieves. Be warned and stay away.
https://www.seeking.com/member/32c63ca0-74c2-4aa7-b30e-275cdb0fb05b
I'd been going back and forth with her for several weeks, my interest sustained by her slim figure and the intellect she displayed in her messages. PPM had been successfully negotiated. Finally, we agreed to meet yesterday at a specific cafe for lunch. I texted her in the morning to confirm but only heard crickets back. Looks like her profile is now down.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5ba82e70-0e53-4b6a-b4e0-b8c4acac4f9e
She's teed up; I just need to give the word. Any experience with her?
HardWoodsman
10-15-19, 21:24
https://www.seeking.com/member/5ba82e70-0e53-4b6a-b4e0-b8c4acac4f9e
She's teed up; I just need to give the word. Any experience with her?No experience but I'm looking forward to your report.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5ba82e70-0e53-4b6a-b4e0-b8c4acac4f9e
She's teed up; I just need to give the word. Any experience with her?I chatted with her about a year ago, seems like really nice person. From the pictures she sent, she may be little bigger than she appears in her profile. Never ended up meeting in person. There might be an opportunity for her friend to join in, but I could be confusing her with someone else. Seems like she would be a lot of fun.
https://www.seeking.com/member/aa12948a-be76-42f9-acc0-f10761347331
Scored with her recently. Easy to talk with, flirty, intelligent and on a great career track. She's a bit bigger than her pics would suggest though; I'd consider her a small-breasted BBW. Went straight to business once the textiles were out of the way. Decent experience overall, but likely won't repeat as she's not my cup of tea physically and I usually have more fulfilling options on tap.
She can host at least sometimes. If you indulge, offer less than 3 bills.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3769a49a-e29f-456f-92cf-9d3a60393bd0
Her name is Lila, she has since blocked me. Plays a good part of playing the innocent victim. I. e. Needs rent money and will promise to pay you back. Careful with these wannabe scam artists.Looks like her profile is down now.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e1c0a923-68c8-4a3d-a25f-34242a998be1
Made plans last week; she agreed to meet tonight at 6:00 for dinner with a return to my place paying 250. At 4:45, she asked if I'd be willing to reschedule because she thought she ate some bad food and was feeling sick. Answer: Absolutely not.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e1c0a923-68c8-4a3d-a25f-34242a998be1
Made plans last week; she agreed to meet tonight at 6:00 for dinner with a return to my place paying 250. At 4:45, she asked if I'd be willing to reschedule because she thought she ate some bad food and was feeling sick. Answer: Absolutely not.Something similar happened to me with this SB, it sucks.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e4ad4376-aaff-4978-a824-cc898b2e4ede
Formerly "babybri691", she's back with a new handle.
We'd previously messaged, with her opening at 800 PPM. I asked if that was BB; it wasn't, so I declined. She immediately countered with 500, but I said I'd only accept if BB. She then countered with BB for 800, which I shot down. She's hot, but not nearly worth that kind of money.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e4ad4376-aaff-4978-a824-cc898b2e4ede
Formerly "babybri691", she's back with a new handle.
We'd previously messaged, with her opening at 800 PPM. I asked if that was BB; it wasn't, so I declined. She immediately countered with 500, but I said I'd only accept if BB. She then countered with BB for 800, which I shot down. She's hot, but not nearly worth that kind of money.Gps rates.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e4ad4376-aaff-4978-a824-cc898b2e4ede
Formerly "babybri691", she's back with a new handle.
We'd previously messaged, with her opening at 800 PPM. I asked if that was BB; it wasn't, so I declined. She immediately countered with 500, but I said I'd only accept if BB. She then countered with BB for 800, which I shot down. She's hot, but not nearly worth that kind of money.As pushy as she is about meeting I think she is fucking as many guys as she can. I am not into the high volume pros, which I think she is, and if I did see her I wouldn't consider BB. She did send me some nice nudes and than wanted me to Venmo her some money, to which I never responded.
https://www.seeking.com/member/61b29e08-d5f6-48a7-a176-4aa0825ef84e
Open to meeting and hosting for 2-3 hours at 400 PPM, but offered extremely limited availability. Weekends are "off limits" and weekday evenings are out as well. The only time she put up was 3:30 weekdays. Good luck with that!
You don't need law school. Law school is for people who are boring and ugly and serious. And you, button, are none of those things. -Legally Blonde.
Seriously, if she gets a job at a law firm the partners will expect precision from her "oral arguments. ".
https://www.seeking.com/member/61b29e08-d5f6-48a7-a176-4aa0825ef84e
Open to meeting and hosting for 2-3 hours at 400 PPM, but offered extremely limited availability. Weekends are "off limits" and weekday evenings are out as well. The only time she put up was 3:30 weekdays. Good luck with that!
HardWoodsman
10-27-19, 16:36
I'm getting tired of all the young women, LOL. Wondering if anyone has any experience with these 40 something ladies?
ShopGirlMN
https://www.seeking.com/member/c5610526-9096-489f-96a5-d4b3b9d7a8a9
Tiffshiding
https://www.seeking.com/member/ec1eb6ac-d072-4b0e-9ff4-4c68c8afd45b
https://www.seeking.com/member/a7f97407-aea5-4236-b4a5-91642f78dc86
Had her teed up for BBFS at 400, but she'd only meet for an hour. When I explained that an hour is really too little for that kind of money, she pulled the tired old "I'm so busy with work and school" line and stated that she's "never going to be able to spend hours and hours with (me)". Decided to pull the plug at that point. A bit of a shame too, because she's the perfect blend of cute and hot IMO, and seemed eager to meet due to a supposed past-due bill. (Offer less out of the gate if you choose to pursue.).
Just had my first experience with spending a entire weekend with someone from SA. I stretched my business trip over a weekend and flew her to where I was staying. This was something new to both of us and it was a bumpy ride to say the least. A few things happened that were beyond our control the first night and think she was little nervous and tired from the flight, which set a bad tone. Ended up having a slight disagreement the next day and she thought about leaving, but we were able to calm things down.
Went out for dinner at a nice restaurant second night and she looked smoking hot. Some guy actually hit on her outside the restaurant while I was getting the car. Last day was the best and kind of what I was hoping for the entire weekend. Made me wish we would have had one more day. In all we spent 3 nights and 2 days together with no actual allowance. I covered all expenses and bought a her a few things and those expenses can add up quickly.
Learned a few things with this experience and would definitely do it again if the opportunity presented itself.
https://www.seeking.com/member/61b29e08-d5f6-48a7-a176-4aa0825ef84e
Open to meeting and hosting for 2-3 hours at 400 PPM, but offered extremely limited availability. Weekends are "off limits" and weekday evenings are out as well. The only time she put up was 3:30 weekdays. Good luck with that!Did you actually meet her in person? In the photo on the motorcycle she looks much older than the other photos. Just curious if it is a bad photo or she is older than she claims.
Did you actually meet her in person? In the photo on the motorcycle she looks much older than the other photos. Just curious if it is a bad photo or she is older than she claims.We didn't meet; I rejected her extremely limited availability. Agree about the motorcycle photo; it's not her most flattering.
Personally not a fan of her bleach blonde either, but her height and build more than made up for it to me.
https://www.seeking.com/member/1d18f00f-dcc3-458e-bd50-bf05667a8f2b
I'm talking to this SB, appreciate any info. Thanks.
https://www.seeking.com/member/034cbacf-357a-48a5-abaf-423ad1ffad87
Please share if you have any details about this SB? Thanks.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4d422a42-f604-4ae7-8d2f-7f9d8f47a14f
Says due to privacy she used her friends pic, want non-intimate arrangements, time waster.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4d422a42-f604-4ae7-8d2f-7f9d8f47a14f
Says due to privacy she used her friends pic, want non-intimate arrangements, time waster.Thank you; I would have messaged her this afternoon without your post.
Interestingly, "Valarie" -- or whoever's using her pictures -- has been on ModelMayhem for a couple years and has a verified credit from a photographer. I instantly recognized her from MM and therefore thought she was legit on SA. She used to have at least one nice full-frontal nude in her MM port, but it's no longer there.
https://www.modelmayhem.com/4124583
https://www.seeking.com/member/c955caf1-9ecf-4423-9496-b8415033782d
Says she want $100 upfront through cash app and her digits 6514242180. I don't do any online cash transfers so pass. and this could be a scam as well so take some caution...
Her profile name is "iadoreve" and she wants upfront money to meet.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4c4b107a-b796-4c59-aa7a-09d4205362c4
Says she is caribbean (MIXED race), please share if you have any details.
https://www.seeking.com/member/ef9f8245-fb10-431b-ad1d-f17e37f50c78
Her first reply:
"right now my phone is off, so I can't call or text. I am just shy of $105 short on my phone bill. I won't meet until my phone is on so if you're interested and able to help me get my phone on before meeting, let me know so we can move forward I am not here to negotiate this, so if this doesn't work for you then good luck!
https://www.seeking.com/member/ef9f8245-fb10-431b-ad1d-f17e37f50c78
Her first reply:
"right now my phone is off, so I can't call or text. I am just shy of $105 short on my phone bill. I won't meet until my phone is on so if you're interested and able to help me get my phone on before meeting, let me know so we can move forward I am not here to negotiate this, so if this doesn't work for you then good luck!What's her SA profile name?
What's her SA profile name?Not sure anymore as I blocked her. If the link is dead, her profile must be gone.
WiseTraveler
11-16-19, 14:59
https://www.seeking.com/member/3afde379-17b6-4818-ae38-90d88c0094f6
Eager to meet. Seems cute and sent additional pic. Says she can host. Might be cash / dash type. Any intel?
https://www.seeking.com/member/2c6e3640-5dfc-4676-8685-f69496e43f81 wants three bills. BBW and young so might be worth trying once. She was pretty aggressive about meeting up so may be higher volume. She can't host.
WiseTraveler
11-19-19, 00:52
Update: Almost certain she was a scammer. Keep wanting me to pick her up and pay for her hair / nails or take her shopping before we went and had fun at her place. Finally said she wanted to meet at a car park 'to be discreet' before walking to her place but she needed to pay her rent first so blah blah blah.
I may have strung her along for giggles. If she's not a scammer, she's a super flake.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3afde379-17b6-4818-ae38-90d88c0094f6
Eager to meet. Seems cute and sent additional pic. Says she can host. Might be cash / dash type. Any intel?
WiseTraveler
11-21-19, 14:51
https://www.seeking.com/member/801c7893-fac8-4a82-8ec8-f7638d478fe3 Mixed on this one. Attractive and could be quite hot if she made some effort.
Pros.
Nice, wants to please, flexible on time, place. Price is about right at $150 with BBJ.
Nice tight ass and legs, stomach looks good, attractive face. 6-7 depending on your tastes (saggy tits so if that's important to you, pass).
Didn't get any sense she'd cash / dash but you never know with someone who needs $.
Probably could negotiate anal, CIM, etc. Almost submissive but doesn't know it if that makes sense.
Cons.
Desperate, new at this (could be seen as positive).
Just had baby, has other kids so awkward (they were not there).
May have pimp but at a minimum has 'complex' family situation.
Smokes (didn't smell bad at the time but she lit up right after).
Quoted 300 at first. She does not know what she's doing.
Flexible and willing to drive to you / meet wherever.
I have not renewed my membership in almost two months now. I am working what might potentially be a long term arrangement with the 20 yr old I took to Florida last month. Also, have enough numbers and previous contacts that I still have more waiting to see me than I have time for. So all is good and don't have to give them $90 a month.
I was thinking the other day of all the different colleges / schools that the girls I have had arrangements have attended. Here is my list of what I can remember.
University of Minnesota.
Minnesota State Mankato.
University of Minnesota Duluth.
Macalister.
Concordia St Paul.
St. Thomas.
Iowa State.
St Catherine.
Augsburg.
Century College.
MCTC.
Herzing University.
IPR College of Creative Arts.
Minnesota School of Cosmology.
Clemson.
Texas A&M.
University of Houston.
Central Florida.
Florida International.
I have had multiple from some of the local schools, with St. Catherine's leading the pack. Still couple I need to check off the list if I ever decide to renew my membership.
HardWoodsman
11-23-19, 13:06
You're like the College Game Day of SA. Nice list!
I have not renewed my membership in almost two months now. I am working what might potentially be a long term arrangement with the 20 yr old I took to Florida last month. Also, have enough numbers and previous contacts that I still have more waiting to see me than I have time for. So all is good and don't have to give them $90 a month.
I was thinking the other day of all the different colleges / schools that the girls I have had arrangements have attended. Here is my list of what I can remember.
University of Minnesota.
Minnesota State Mankato.
University of Minnesota Duluth.
Macalister.
Concordia St Paul.
St. Thomas.
Iowa State.
St Catherine.
Augsburg.
Century College.
MCTC.
Herzing University.
IPR College of Creative Arts.
Minnesota School of Cosmology.
Clemson.
Texas A&M.
University of Houston.
Central Florida.
Florida International.
I have had multiple from some of the local schools, with St. Catherine's leading the pack. Still couple I need to check off the list if I ever decide to renew my membership.
HardWoodsman
11-23-19, 13:27
Chatted with this girl for awhile. Texted back and forth but her answers were always delayed. Wanted 4 but she came down to 3 for full GFE. Couldn't get schedules to match up. She said she hasn't had an arrangement before but I bet a few of you out there have been hitting it.
https://www.seeking.com/member/109f588b-3332-43fb-aa3a-253736db888d
It seems most of the guys posting her are doing well on SA, but I do get some private messages from others that are newer to the website with questions. So, thought I would post a PSA that might help. It seems the common misconception is that this is a bad time of the year on SA, but my experience on previous years has been just the opposite. But you need to make the initial connection soon, before finals start.
Once finals over they likely have some free time, need some money for Christmas presents and many of them haven't had a decent fuck in couple months, if ever LOL. So, you can help them fill several of their needs. You might even be able to find a local girl who goes away to school, but is home for the holidays. I am actually having a 1 yr anniversary meeting with a girl I meet last year at this time. She is a hot little former competitive figure skater and we get together every few weeks as our schedule permits.
Obviously your mileage may vary, but I found anytime their is a break in school is a good time.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a4ba804d-92c3-4efa-b39d-3a245bc025af
Mega-hot girl who displays raging GPS. She lost it after I refused to comp the lunch M&G we'd scheduled for today; see the attached text exchange for details. After I blocked her initial number, she continued her tirade from a different number until I played an ace in the hole.
Buster Face
11-26-19, 00:26
Mega-hot girl who displays raging GPS. Good responses. Life has gotten difficult after the amateurs entered the game. It is worse out here in California. They all think they can pick and choose what they will and won't do. The only choice used to be anal or no anal. And the ones with GPS are more outrageous: $800 for BBFS. For that money, pumpkin, I can fly back east and have three holes BB on an 18 yo.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a4ba804d-92c3-4efa-b39d-3a245bc025af
Mega-hot girl who displays raging GPS. She lost it after I refused to comp the lunch M&G we'd scheduled for today; see the attached text exchange for details. After I blocked her initial number, she continued her tirade from a different number until I played an ace in the hole.I'm lurking from California; I was recently living in S. Florida and found a sugar baby via an introduction from her coworker. This was great but probably not so typical. I'm reading about Seeking Arrangements since I will sign up soon probably in my college town.
There are pretty girls who have an inflated sense of self worth; sometimes I heard things from my 22 yr. Old sugar baby who was very pretty; I said "remember, at night all cats are black. ".
Another thing I mentioned to her was "from behind, girls look remarkably similar".
She was pleased with $100 per meet although she would have typical emergencies like a flat tire ($70 new tire) and things. Eventually she was past her crisis and now she calls me asking to visit me in California.
I knew a semi-ugly girl who posted very out of date pictures of herself on SA hoping to meet a rich dude; she didn't really want to be a sugar baby at all. When she was "in her cups" she admitted she wasn't pretty but she was sexy and willing to do what a man likes (which I think she would).
The female who has expectations which are not met will be angry and this is when she will insult you; that's how they fight because physical fights with a man are outside their abilities.
The insults can be very hurtful, but I would always reply "yeah, I'm a loser but I got you didn't I?
This GPS girl at least learned some vocabulary from you for her future reference.
I always compare what a pussy is worth with how much effort a girl would expend to make that money working at a McJob; most girls would work almost 2 full days to take home $150. $100 or $150 is a LOT of money to a poor girl.
Those amounts may not be considered a lot of money to a girl in college who has rich parents; this is the problem.
I think white blonde girls are the most likely to have GPS, in Minnesota they may be common compared to Florida.
WiseTraveler
11-27-19, 16:09
Chatted with this girl for awhile. Texted back and forth but her answers were always delayed. Wanted 4 but she came down to 3 for full GFE. Couldn't get schedules to match up. She said she hasn't had an arrangement before but I bet a few of you out there have been hitting it.
https://www.seeking.com/member/109f588b-3332-43fb-aa3a-253736db888dNo intel but one pics she looked a little like Rachel McAdams but then the next one she's a dead ringer to Matthew Lillard (Scooby Doo actor) minus the huge tits of course. Can't shake the image now!
WiseTraveler
11-27-19, 16:30
It's horrible to say but if you shop more like you would for gently used cars (or beaters if yer into that), the price drops by 50-80%. There are attractive enough girls on the site that are realistic about their chances and will take a reasonable amount. If you are actually nice and give them pleasure as well, they'll give OTC fun. The BJs are always better and the girls are more discreet. The hot ones too often have no filter and less sense. "I showed your pic to my bestie and she wants a SD like you!" "Um. You did what?
I pretty much filter out profiles that include princess, arm candy, spoil me, or where the first line is "Don't waste my time!" "Don't ask for my bank info!" I wish them the best of luck. There is nothing wrong with getting as much as you can but I prefer shopping at Target rather than Nordstrom's.
I've only found one I traveled with but it was a perfect storm of meeting someone in a city I was going to for work and both having a complete week free. Young, hot, and was grateful I paid for meals.
The site is good for travel fun as long as you get a pipeline going in advance. It kills any allowance discussion, which simplifies things greatly.
Probably being Captain Obvious but thought I'd share. Keep the potential SBs coming!
https://www.seeking.com/member/a4ba804d-92c3-4efa-b39d-3a245bc025af
Mega-hot girl who displays raging GPS. She lost it after I refused to comp the lunch M&G we'd scheduled for today; see the attached text exchange for details. After I blocked her initial number, she continued her tirade from a different number until I played an ace in the hole.Does she suck dick w that potty mouth.
How do you setup an account to view profiles? Do you need to pay-in in order to do so?
Spaniard21
12-12-19, 12:37
https://www.seeking.com/member/a4ba804d-92c3-4efa-b39d-3a245bc025af
Mega-hot girl who displays raging GPS. She lost it after I refused to comp the lunch M&G we'd scheduled for today; see the attached text exchange for details. After I blocked her initial number, she continued her tirade from a different number until I played an ace in the hole.I've met her in person, she's mega hot, but super crazy!
It's horrible to say but if you shop more like you would for gently used cars (or beaters if yer into that), the price drops by 50-80%. There are attractive enough girls on the site that are realistic about their chances and will take a reasonable amount. If you are actually nice and give them pleasure as well, they'll give OTC fun. The BJs are always better and the girls are more discreet. The hot ones too often have no filter and less sense. "I showed your pic to my bestie and she wants a SD like you!" "Um. You did what?
I pretty much filter out profiles that include princess, arm candy, spoil me, or where the first line is "Don't waste my time!" "Don't ask for my bank info!" I wish them the best of luck. There is nothing wrong with getting as much as you can but I prefer shopping at Target rather than Nordstrom's.This is great advice that I've found true in my experience. If you're willing to take an 8 instead of a 9-10, the price and BS level often drops considerably. Prime example: I recently met a 33 y / o fitness instructor who's a homeowner and holds a four-year degree. She looks her age but is a rock-solid 8, maybe closer to 9 with clothes off. We didn't even settle on $$ until after we had BB sex at her place on our second meeting. (The first was a quick M&G for drinks.) She texts frequently and is obviously interested; she's not just treating me like an ATM.
The 19 y / o I've been seeing for longer (a legit 10 who models on the side and is the best looking girl I've ever fucked), has proven unreliable by cancelling meets and even lying about her class schedule. I'm actually meeting with her today for a Come to Jesus talk after she left me holding the bag for a hotel room last week. I'll readily admit the only reason I'm tolerating her is that she's blazing hot. She's made matter-of-fact comments in the past that she "knows her power" and "gets what she wants" because of her looks. The time we spend together is actually pretty good, but in between the communication and follow-through is crap.
I too eliminate profiles with the key words you mentioned. It speaks to their attitude; I won't waste my time with someone broadcasting their entitlement, paranoia, or anger issues.
Spaniard21
12-12-19, 21:34
I was checking profiles out tonight, and ran into this beauty.
https://www.seeking.com/member/24db0be5-faf1-4bb3-86ec-fcb58fb09d62
Perfect GPS example. Read the profile. I actually LOL.
Wow. Such a shame, she would be a good fuck.
I was checking profiles out tonight, and ran into this beauty.
https://www.seeking.com/member/24db0be5-faf1-4bb3-86ec-fcb58fb09d62
Perfect GPS example. Read the profile. I actually LOL.
Wow. Such a shame, she would be a good fuck.Definite entitlement and anger management issues there. One of the worst profiles I've seen in that regard. Looks like she messaged me a couple years ago but I wisely never replied.
I'd be interested in hearing more about your encounter (s) with our uber-hot crazy girl.
The 19 y / o I've been seeing for longer (a legit 10 who models on the side and is the best looking girl I've ever fucked), has proven unreliable by cancelling meets and even lying about her class schedule. I'm actually meeting with her today for a Come to Jesus talk after she left me holding the bag for a hotel room last week. I'll readily admit the only reason I'm tolerating her is that she's blazing hot. She's made matter-of-fact comments in the past that she "knows her power" and "gets what she wants" because of her looks. The time we spend together is actually pretty good, but in between the communication and follow-through is crap.I have a similar experience with the 19 hr old I have been seeing, not only is she one of the hottest she is absolutely amazing in bed. Our relationship has been very up and down with number of issues, including another SD who demanding a lot of her time and presumably giving her significant $. There is a lot of back story to that arrangement and they have been seeing each other for 6 weeks or so and no sex yet. Our communication was great at first, but when the other guy appeared is slowed down significantly. The good thing is she never cancels if we set a time, with one exception when her family showed up unexpectedly at the dorm and took her dinner.
I am guessing most guys would have bailed on this arrangement a long time ago, but I sometimes stay in long than I should really just to see what happens. Few weekends ago, we were schedule to meet but I was getting a bad feeling about some of her texts and decided to push hings a little to find out her intentions. We essentially had our Come to Jesus discussion via text, which I would not recommend LOL. Things got rather heated and at one point she said I need to "Shut the Fuck Up", which is totally out of character for her. We didn't resolved anything but certainly got a few issues out in the open.
Again, the smart thing would have been to move onto one of the other girls wanting to fuck, but I went ahead with the meeting figuring it was the end of the road. I did change thing up bring flowers as kind of a peace offering after our heated text exchange. She actually sent me a text prior stating that if I piss her off again today I will never see her again. Needless to say, the initial reception was ice cold, despite the flowers. She actually pulled out her laptop, put on her head phones and started watching a Netflix show. So, I turned in the TV and sat on the other bed watching a movie thinking we may not even have sex LOL.
Lasted about 20-30 minutes and eventually she started talking. We really were able to clear the air in number of things and discussed if we should continue the arrangement or not. She admitted that she had consider dumping me but decided she wanted to keep me around Long term. She said she will still have other arrangements that will be short term and she will use them to take her shopping and buy her things and wants to keep me around to satisfy her sexual. I know some of you think I may be making this shit up, but I swear to god this is the absolute truth. Obviously, I said I am all in on that type of arrangement.
Anyway we ended the date with in if the most intense fuck sessions I can remember. No round 2 because she had to get back to campus to work on a group project, but I was so physical drained doubt if I could go again.
She is definitely somewhat higher maintenance and not a on the cheap end of the range, but so far has been worth it. Her and the other guy had a falling out recently and think they could be done, but do not know for sure. She is still on SA most days presumably checking her new messages.
Spaniard21
12-13-19, 11:28
I have a similar experience with the 19 hr old I have been seeing, not only is she one of the hottest she is absolutely amazing in bed. Our relationship has been very up and down with number of issues, including another SD who demanding a lot of her time and presumably giving her significant $. There is a lot of back story to that arrangement and they have been seeing each other for 6 weeks or so and no sex yet. Our communication was great at first, but when the other guy appeared is slowed down significantly. The good thing is she never cancels if we set a time, with one exception when her family showed up unexpectedly at the dorm and took her dinner.
I am guessing most guys would have bailed on this arrangement a long time ago, but I sometimes stay in long than I should really just to see what happens. Few weekends ago, we were schedule to meet but I was getting a bad feeling about some of her texts and decided to push hings a little to find out her intentions. We essentially had our Come to Jesus discussion via text, which I would not recommend LOL. Things got rather heated and at one point she said I need to "Shut the Fuck Up", which is totally out of character for her. We didn't resolved anything but certainly got a few issues out in the open.
Again, the smart thing would have been to move onto one of the other girls wanting to fuck, but I went ahead with the meeting figuring it was the end of the road. I did change thing up bring flowers as kind of a peace offering after our heated text exchange. She actually sent me a text prior stating that if I piss her off again today I will never see her again. Needless to say, the initial reception was ice cold, despite the flowers. She actually pulled out her laptop, put on her head phones and started watching a Netflix show. So, I turned in the TV and sat on the other bed watching a movie thinking we may not even have sex LOL..WOW, you hit the jackpot with that one.
My "19 year old" SB is now 24, lives in Florida, but when she comes back to MN to visit her family or I'm in FL for business we do have amazing sex. We don't have an "arrangement" anymore, we're just good friends with obvious benefits.
Spaniard21
12-13-19, 11:37
Definite entitlement and anger management issues there. One of the worst profiles I've seen in that regard. Looks like she messaged me a couple years ago but I wisely never replied.
I'd be interested in hearing more about your encounter (s) with our uber-hot crazy girl.Definitely!
The uber-hot crazy girl, I have her number, I must have gotten lucky or my personality jives well with the crazies. We had a good exchange of messages at first, so I thought we "hit it off". She didn't charge me for a meet and greet, it was sort of an exchange of information. I gave her some tips on an idea she has and helped her out with some IT stuff. However, the conversation got a little weird, and it was definitely all about her. I didn't have much time so I had an excuse to leave. I'm torn whether or not I should follow up, I do know next meeting will be $ or I'd have to spin it as we start some sort of arrangement. I'm starting to find other more valuable candidates. But she is uber-hot and I'm a sucker for hot blondes. Ayyy.
WOW, you hit the jackpot with that one.Yes, it seems like that for now, but things can change quickly. These 19-20 yr olds are not always that stable LOL. She tells me that today and tomorrow she meets someone that offers her a bunch of money for an exclusive arrangement and I am out.
She has been more active on SA this past week (I have a second non-premium account and I can see when she has been active), so I am guessing the other guy she was seeing is out.
MinnyMassage
12-15-19, 02:16
Haven't yet, but keep thinking about starting to dabble in the SB arena. I've been active in the AMP and escort hobby for years, but tiring of it. I'd be interested in hearing what age range you guys that are active are in, or what you hear is the top end, age-wise, these SB's are interested in. I'm in my early 50's, and think a young 20 year old SB would be fun, just not sure if that is realistic. Thanks for any insight!
Haven't yet, but keep thinking about starting to dabble in the SB arena. I've been active in the AMP and escort hobby for years, but tiring of it. I'd be interested in hearing what age range you guys that are active are in, or what you hear is the top end, age-wise, these SB's are interested in. I'm in my early 50's, and think a young 20 year old SB would be fun, just not sure if that is realistic. Thanks for any insight!It is very realistic.
HardWoodsman
12-15-19, 11:00
Haven't yet, but keep thinking about starting to dabble in the SB arena. I've been active in the AMP and escort hobby for years, but tiring of it. I'd be interested in hearing what age range you guys that are active are in, or what you hear is the top end, age-wise, these SB's are interested in. I'm in my early 50's, and think a young 20 year old SB would be fun, just not sure if that is realistic. Thanks for any insight!Every SB has different standards as to what is "too old" but there are so many if I run into one that has a problem I just politely move on to the next and let them know if they change their mind to let me know. It's Christmas time and some extra cash comes in handy so I've been getting hit up by 5 or 6 who suddenly find I'm just the right age.
A friend of mine is your age and he found that lowering his age to 46 or 47 really helped him with the college woman if that's what your looking for. I've never had a problem with the 28+ women in regards to age and they tend to be better dates for me anyway.
Haven't yet, but keep thinking about starting to dabble in the SB arena. I've been active in the AMP and escort hobby for years, but tiring of it. I'd be interested in hearing what age range you guys that are active are in, or what you hear is the top end, age-wise, these SB's are interested in. I'm in my early 50's, and think a young 20 year old SB would be fun, just not sure if that is realistic. Thanks for any insight!I'm lurking, I'll sign up for Seeking next month. My experience was in S. Florida with a girl I met free style; I have not met a girl who was online.
Anyway, I'm older than my appearance, but my sugar baby was just 20 the first time we did the deed and she was enthusiastic; the entire thing was her idea in the first place.
In this case, I had taken out her coworker for some drinks and then she bragged about me to her coworkers. The sugar baby liked the concept of a guy who has money because she had only dated broke guys in her age category.
Females brag about males 1. They like appearance of 2. Who has money.
My sugar baby assumed my age to be 50 or under; I am older but I didn't tell her.
To summarize for any guy seeking a young female, I would say the lucky combination of 1. Your "game" 2. Your perceived wealth 3. The motivation of the girl 4. The girl's shyness will all combine sometimes in your favor.
My luck was that the hot sugar baby girl was actually shy and would not ever have gone online; she's self conscious since her adolescent days and she's a swan who thinks she is an ugly duckling or something, I don't know why.
It's a little bit fascinating to me; as I age my net worth rises and female interest in me seems to increase, while my looks don't compare to how I was in my 30's when I surfed often living in California.
Oh, and I don't talk about showering money on people; I do talk about my net worth rising with the stock market and how pleased I am lately.
A nice car also impresses the chicks; don't think you are going to impress one driving a Prius or a Corolla.
Spaniard21
12-15-19, 14:00
Yes, it seems like that for now, but things can change quickly. These 19-20 yr olds are not always that stable LOL. She tells me that today and tomorrow she meets someone that offers her a bunch of money for an exclusive arrangement and I am out.
She has been more active on SA this past week (I have a second non-premium account and I can see when she has been active), so I am guessing the other guy she was seeing is out.Absolutely, that is my one turn off with the young ones.
HardWoodsman
12-16-19, 23:00
Josie prettybrown Asked for 5 k a month. I passed.
https://www.seeking.com/member/868b04f4-4589-f25b-617c-adc5d1e5d610
Josie prettybrown Asked for 5 k a month. I passed.
https://www.seeking.com/member/868b04f4-4589-f25b-617c-adc5d1e5d610Girls like her are a dime a dozen in S. Florida.
The actual price is $100 if she's hotter, and $50 if she's a little bit older and thicker than this specimen. My friend gets one for $40 or just car head for $20.
Of course I know that the comparison is apples v oranges so my apologies.
Cities Boy
12-29-19, 15:13
I'm thinking about trying this and already have a profile set up. Women started reaching out to me fairly quickly. My question is whether it is really worth buying a membership or not and trying to go after some of them. I've read everything here and would be interested in opinions of others besides those that have already posted.
I'm thinking about trying this and already have a profile set up. Women started reaching out to me fairly quickly. My question is whether it is really worth buying a membership or not and trying to go after some of them. I've read everything here and would be interested in opinions of others besides those that have already posted.I wonder the same and am following. I started getting hit so quickly after establishing a profile, I thought they might be just automated messages trying to get my money.
I wonder the same and am following. I started getting hit so quickly after establishing a profile, I thought they might be just automated messages trying to get my money.Same here. Started on SA and links disappear quickly or they don't come back. SB seems like they all message you trying to get you to spend credits. I've only reached out to a few. No success yet. I did meet one I'm Mingle2 and I still keep in touch but the rest were fake just wanting gift cards sent. Maybe my approach is wrong when contacting them. Any advise is appreciated.
I'm thinking about trying this and already have a profile set up. Women started reaching out to me fairly quickly. My question is whether it is really worth buying a membership or not and trying to go after some of them. I've read everything here and would be interested in opinions of others besides those that have already posted.Plenty of people have taken the dive here already. It's a bit more work on the front end and dealing with flakes, but, for me it was usually a good bang for the buck vs escorts.
Cities Boy
12-31-19, 16:19
Plenty of people have taken the dive here already. It's a bit more work on the front end and dealing with flakes, but, for me it was usually a good bang for the buck vs escorts.Thanks for your input and glad to see that you are still out here and in the game.
Thanks for your input and glad to see that you are still out here and in the game.Not in the game anymore, but, I can't resist living vicariously through others.
My SA arrangement is going on 5 years now and she gives me $1 k a month these days! :-D.
WiseTraveler
01-03-20, 16:21
I'm thinking about trying this and already have a profile set up. Women started reaching out to me fairly quickly. My question is whether it is really worth buying a membership or not and trying to go after some of them. I've read everything here and would be interested in opinions of others besides those that have already posted.It's a lot of work at first. You'll get slammed with messages / being favorited at first. It also depends how much you are willing to spend. If you can afford 'allowance level' arrangements, it's better than anything out there if you are in a decent sized town with a lot of college students (like the Twin Cities). You can honestly get women who are hotter / fresher / more GFE than even $500/ hour escorts.
If you want more Pay-Per-Meet, it's tougher but still a good source. $200-300 will get you 6-7's and occasional 8+. The top % hold out for allowances.
Join for 1-2 months, filter out those looking for platonic or want Ayou to fly them in, and then build up your favorites list. I put no pics in my profile and insist on text or email outside the site. If you talk about PPM or sex for $, you can get banned very quickly so always get to chatting outside the site ASAP.
Hosting can be an issue. If you can host, it's 10 X easier since you can just meet nearby and then decide if you want to play. If not, have some day hotel apps / options handy.
It gets old after several weeks but I found it a nice break from escorts. You can sometimes hit absolute gold. I had a SB who turned more into a long-term hookup and I just paid for drinks / food and the occasional gift.
It's also fun if you travel. While it can take a few hours to filter / search / message you can learn pretty quickly if they are up for 'travel fun'. It's like ordering take out.
Spaniard21
01-06-20, 17:29
I normally don't go for the "older" sugar babies. But this one is well dressed, and I'm always a sucker for women in heels. Alas, not to be.
She wants $500 just for a date. Waste of time. I tried to negotiate and she went on a rant. Maybe it's the time of the month, maybe old age.
https://www.seeking.com/member/307d1688-dc7c-4673-87cf-368db51f5027
HardWoodsman
01-06-20, 21:38
She quoted me the same but at least I didn't get the rant. She pretty active on the site so I would say she a UTR semi-pro looking for out of towners. She had a few different names on the site. I'm still waiting from someone who's toft.
I normally don't go for the "older" sugar babies. But this one is well dressed, and I'm always a sucker for women in heels. Alas, not to be.
She wants $500 just for a date. Waste of time. I tried to negotiate and she went on a rant. Maybe it's the time of the month, maybe old age.
https://www.seeking.com/member/307d1688-dc7c-4673-87cf-368db51f5027
Spaniard21
01-07-20, 10:20
She quoted me the same but at least I didn't get the rant. She pretty active on the site so I would say she a UTR semi-pro looking for out of towners. She had a few different names on the site. I'm still waiting from someone who's toft.I pushed her a little more after her rant and she about had a meltdown LOL. Back to the younger ones I go.
NerdyGuy12
01-07-20, 22:42
Anyone have experience with this one?
https://www.seeking.com/member/d69d446f-9407-4b22-9af8-5ca0acb22e1c
I found some escort ads for her too.
RoSteele65
01-08-20, 19:05
Anyone have experience with this one?
https://www.seeking.com/member/d69d446f-9407-4b22-9af8-5ca0acb22e1c
I found some escort ads for her too.I have been in touch with her. Made initial contact on WYP. Haven't been able to meet up with her yet. She doesn't host, which makes it a little tougher for me.
Where have you seen her escort ads?
NerdyGuy12
01-08-20, 21:26
Check your PMs. Erotic monkey and harlot hub.
I have been in touch with her. Made initial contact on WYP. Haven't been able to meet up with her yet. She doesn't host, which makes it a little tougher for me.
Where have you seen her escort ads?
NerdyGuy12
01-12-20, 15:42
I'm talking to this girl, who I've received a verification pic from, although I'm not meeting until tomorrow. She says she's interested in a gangbang. We haven't quite figured out all the details, but it's looking like maybe 100-150 person. Anyone interested? Feel free to pm.
https://www.seeking.com/member/59cbfc02-089a-4da9-88ba-29e463c183d5
HardWoodsman
01-18-20, 21:34
How did it go?
I'm talking to this girl, who I've received a verification pic from, although I'm not meeting until tomorrow. She says she's interested in a gangbang. We haven't quite figured out all the details, but it's looking like maybe 100-150 person. Anyone interested? Feel free to pm.
https://www.seeking.com/member/59cbfc02-089a-4da9-88ba-29e463c183d5
HardWoodsman
01-27-20, 21:47
MplsPrincess.
She's a time waster or a catfish. Chats on line but will not go offline or meet up.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b778d0c8-7889-49fe-8267-cd9ba80585fa
BorderTraveler
01-27-20, 22:45
I'm talking to this girl, who I've received a verification pic from, although I'm not meeting until tomorrow. She says she's interested in a gangbang. We haven't quite figured out all the details, but it's looking like maybe 100-150 person. Anyone interested? Feel free to pm.
https://www.seeking.com/member/59cbfc02-089a-4da9-88ba-29e463c183d5Any update on this? I'd like to know.
Any update on this? I'd like to know.Been 2 weeks and no response to my msg.
https://www.seeking.com/member/48ce84f8-800b-451f-bf96-c365eddf87ab
Appreciate any insights?
Anyone have experience with this one?
https://www.seeking.com/member/089b440c-62e1-4ec9-b35f-f53b623b36e3
Anyone have experience with this one?
https://www.seeking.com/member/089b440c-62e1-4ec9-b35f-f53b623b36e3She's very well spoken and charming. Her $ expectations are fairly high ($5+).
She's very well spoken and charming. Her $ expectations are fairly high ($5+).Have you seen her?
HardWoodsman
02-04-20, 19:14
Violetlynn123.
Straight forward about wanting to hook up on the site and quickly moved to text. Set everything up and then wanted half up front sent to her brother's CashApp at the last minute. Blocked her. I'm sure her "brother" was upset.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8b1eb905-56ee-4157-8a46-483e08904923
Violetlynn123.
Straight forward about wanting to hook up on the site and quickly moved to text. Set everything up and then wanted half up front sent to her brother's CashApp at the last minute. Blocked her. I'm sure her "brother" was upset.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8b1eb905-56ee-4157-8a46-483e08904923Met up with her. Very open. 2 bills per meet. In a little bit of rough shape right now.
In case you missed her:
https://www.seeking.com/member/33f793e2-6225-4118-9cb8-1069e3b3e1da
I didn't partake under her previous profile though we did make text contact. Spendy and seems pro-ish, but incredibly attractive based on the many pics I've seen. I may pursue her further this time.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6b2208fc-d537-4962-b8b4-80f709fd5ec6
My only reason for moving on: I have some even hotter / younger options.
Everything in her profile is accurate. She's an employed, degreed homeowner who's well spoken and well traveled. Attractive face with a killer body that appears younger than her age. Ideal curves with a near-perfect chest, slender-ish waist and a well proportioned ass. Pillow-like lips and perfect teeth.
Her personality is a little cooler than I prefer but in the same vein, she's a straight shooter won't give you any BS. A steal at 3 bills IMO who can host when her roommate (female) isn't around. Open to BB. Also open to long-term and would likely make a damn good partner for someone.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2d8023a8-3a68-4b9b-848b-00528ec04009
When asked if she was up for PPM: "I am interested but you would have to explain what you are expecting very exactly to me. " Not taking that bait, even though she's dead center in my wheelhouse.
HardWoodsman
02-15-20, 21:02
Ellebaby.
This one is more pro than SB but fun. 4 x $ for over an hour. She travels a lot so catch her when she's in town.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2441f955-24d9-48d0-992d-91d383ac8247
HardWoodsman
02-15-20, 21:26
She can't host but will come to you. More BBW than her pics but fantastic tits and she is open to anything, no holes barred and is completely submissive. She is also advising on Tryst.
https://www.seeking.com/member/ed3996a5-cb70-4cea-9ace-46fd013987dd
Is it worth paying premium at SA? From what I see it is not very active in MN and when I check links from here they always say profile not available. I may give up on trying to find a SB and go back to AMPs.
RoSteele65
02-17-20, 13:11
Communicated briefly with this one. She looks super hot, but got discussing things. No PPM and wants about 4-5 K monthly. Ha!
RoSteele65
02-17-20, 13:12
https://www.seeking.com/member/ce1619b4-400a-455e-af0f-659e18d4b79c
Give her a month or two until reality sets in; I bet she'll come down. My current top-shelfer dropped quite a bit within a couple weeks of joining.
She looks incredible IMO though. I'm profoundly attracted to very slender, toned women with narrow torsos like her. She likely has the hottest body I've seen on a local SB.
Communicated briefly with this one. She looks super hot, but got discussing things. No PPM and wants about 4-5 K monthly. Ha!
Spaniard21
02-19-20, 14:40
https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/29d56dfd-9438-4678-9b90-3dd92fad571c
She and / or her pimp / bot have 4 different profiles. This one in particular went bat shit crazy on me LOL.
BorderTraveler
02-19-20, 15:21
https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/29d56dfd-9438-4678-9b90-3dd92fad571c
She and / or her pimp / bot have 4 different profiles. This one in particular went bat shit crazy on me LOLYou linked your messages, we can't see those for good reason.
CarmenSdmn
02-19-20, 15:56
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Spaniard21
02-20-20, 17:42
You linked your messages, we can't see those for good reason.Good catch, she blocked me. Her screen name = afternoonsecret.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6b2208fc-d537-4962-b8b4-80f709fd5ec6
Any Intel on this one is appreciated. Thank you.
Definitely worth pursuing. See my review posted on 2/7; feel free to PM with questions.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6b2208fc-d537-4962-b8b4-80f709fd5ec6
Any Intel on this one is appreciated. Thank you.
https://www.seeking.com/member/41031de3-0141-4ea7-988e-1e7a35f21513
We've been slowly moving toward meeting; her private pics look very good. Any intel? She's been around a while.
Definitely worth pursuing. See my review posted on 2/7; feel free to PM with questions.Thanks Man. Appreciate.
https://www.seeking.com/member/06ee7bb5-4377-430e-a7e8-3c87b3d7287d
Seems to be willing to meet up fast, anyone met her yet?
Talking to this one. Appreciate any details thanks.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e95c479d-d3c8-4ab4-a8b3-35be104a3d71
HardWoodsman
03-03-20, 19:40
Clear your inbox.
Very early, I offered $400 PPM which she tacitly accepted. Later, after setting a time and place for our first meeting, she asked what I offered for a first date; I responded that I'd pay the "standard rate" if we move on from our public lunch. She then asked, "So $500 if we move on from the cafe?" I pointed out the $400 offered before and she responded, "Sorry I don't do meetings for less than $500 but I wish you the best of luck!
She's hot enough that I may have flexed to $500 if she'd negotiated early, but I refuse to be baited and switched.
https://www.seeking.com/member/41031de3-0141-4ea7-988e-1e7a35f21513
We've been slowly moving toward meeting; her private pics look very good. Any intel? She's been around a while.
Very early, I offered $400 PPM which she tacitly accepted. Later, after setting a time and place for our first meeting, she asked what I offered for a first date; I responded that I'd pay the "standard rate" if we move on from our public lunch. She then asked, "So $500 if we move on from the cafe?" I pointed out the $400 offered before and she responded, "Sorry I don't do meetings for less than $500 but I wish you the best of luck!
She's hot enough that I may have flexed to $500 if she'd negotiated early, but I refuse to be baited and switched.My experience was very similar. I think she may be more of a pro than she lets on and $500 seems to be the floor of what she will accept, although she may give the impression she will accept less.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2c6e3640-5dfc-4676-8685-f69496e43f81
She'd expressed interest several times over the past months (at appropriate intervals) so I finally decided to write back. We quickly moved to text, where she offered 300 for PPM and voluntarily sent many explicit photos, even asking if I wanted to see additional angles. She has an attractive face but ultimately I declined after better seeing that she's a smidge bigger than I prefer, particularly in a sugar setting. On the upside, she struck me as pleasant, accommodating (willing to move an appointment if I wanted to meet), eager to meet but not pushy, and she clearly understands why we're here. I'll bet some of you have enjoyed her, but the body wasn't quite there for me.
PenilePerson15
03-19-20, 11:20
https://www.seeking.com/member/2c6e3640-5dfc-4676-8685-f69496e43f81
She'd expressed interest several times over the past months (at appropriate intervals) so I finally decided to write back. We quickly moved to text, where she offered 300 for PPM and voluntarily sent many explicit photos, even asking if I wanted to see additional angles. She has an attractive face but ultimately I declined after better seeing that she's a smidge bigger than I prefer, particularly in a sugar setting. On the upside, she struck me as pleasant, accommodating (willing to move an appointment if I wanted to meet), eager to meet but not pushy, and she clearly understands why we're here. I'll bet some of you have enjoyed her, but the body wasn't quite there for me.Thanks! Anyone know if bareback + CIP is available? Tinder girls are usually amenable to it, not sure about SA girls.
https://www.seeking.com/member/83fdc900-bc1b-48f7-b2a5-b8537386a2d8
Tried pouncing on this smokin' fresh meat today. Immediately moved to text where we had a pleasant convo, which I tried to parlay into a meetup. No go though; she wants to sell pics / videos and "work our way to a meet up. " Exchanged pleasantries and parted ways after indicating that I don't pay for pics (unless I take them).
QuantumFlux359
03-19-20, 18:19
Talking to this one. Appreciate any details thanks.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e95c479d-d3c8-4ab4-a8b3-35be104a3d71First off, FINALLY an SA forum! I have so much to share. Short answer on this one, she was ok, had a lot of fun slapping her around as she is def interested in BDSM (though seemed very new and I have quite a bit of experience), but I'll stick with just "ok". She is a bit bigger than pics seem to suggest. I can't share ppm because. Well its tricky and kinda weird how things went down, but end all is I don't know what she would have agreed to if were a straight ppm scenario.
https://www.seeking.com/member/97d916c2-758d-4d03-92dc-51fd14efeb6c
Top-tier looks IMO, but she's only seeking virtual at present due to the pandemic. States that she's "more than okay with meeting up after this scary virus blows over. " Advised her that I'm not into virtual but would be interested in meeting up when it's over. Parted on good terms.
QuantumFlux359
03-19-20, 22:21
I don't currently have an active account due to solid rotation already, but here's what I ran across in most recently active that I recognized. Generically using "text" for moving off SA for communication (coulda been text, kik, snap).
Jessraetaylor.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0c15295b-1eda-429f-861f-5cd7d683af0b
Moved to text after a little back and forth, she's 420 friendly, and we set a tentative date, $$. 5 then she ghosted and went off SA for a while. She showed up again months later, and didn't respond to me via SA or text when I tried to reconnect.
Daisydivine1999.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2c8083e6-61ce-491d-adbe-b7bfd7dba9fb
Contacted due to interest in DDLG, we chatted, moved offsite to text, wasn't long before she was asking for money to send a pic, didn't bode well so ended it there.
TheFukDoll.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c78295fe-017a-43c1-8213-76bc1fcbcd89
Others have already reviewed her, but I will reiterate, definitely DTF, 3 $ but probably could see her for $$. 5, maybe $$, she seemed open to negotiating if it's long term, she definitely is BIG into BDSM, as I am. Have seen her 3 times, lots of fun slapping her around. She will see you if you aren't into BDSM, but if you're good at it, she'll love you. Little bigger than pics suggest, but definitely fun time.
Lucidtoph.
https://www.seeking.com/member/30d9a84a-9942-4674-b1c0-5971baa27b00
Another 420 fan, and also into little bit of bdsm, babygirl / daddy dynamic, which you may be seeing pattern of the types I usually like. We made it to a date, had dinner, agreed to $$, hit it off well enough that I was driving her to her car and I was fingering her on the way, she was going to follow me to my place, but soon as I dropped her off, she texted me that something happened and her roommate was in crisis mode or some shit and couldn't come to my place, which pissed me off so I ghosted her. (not entirely sure if something really happened or not).
JJ2019.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0daab5db-a69c-409f-be58-e0f7ba733139
She's a pro, was DTF pretty much immediately, pretty solid ask of 4 $ I declined only due to other options and at better rates at the time.
Avivababyyy888.
https://www.seeking.com/member/9a1416a2-e16c-478b-8a87-1032a25c3497
Also a pro, I think, 420 friendly, even though we discussed hanging out and having dinner and whatsuch, she came over for 3 $ but was very rushed. Promised to come see me again at $$. 5, and spend time together, but I never followed up with her due to concern she was going to be time watcher every time. Small tits, but nice body overall, and even cuter in person. CBJ sucked tho.
Addy03.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4a196dba-8a79-44cb-afcf-b3a1b575e009
Texted back and forth for quite a while, I was delaying due to overload of SBs, but eventually moved to text, planned to get together the "next week", she disappeared for a week, then would respond a bit, then disappear for 5 days, then respond, then. You get it, I cut bait.
LoveChloee.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8903ccbc-bb21-49a6-b355-42df8a920168
Saw her probably 2 years ago, so little hazy on the deets, but she's DTF, was fun but nothing special since I only saw her once, but reasonable rate, I think it was $$.
I don't currently have an active account due to solid rotation already, but here's what I ran across in most recently active that I recognized. Generically using "text" for moving off SA for communication (coulda been text, kik, snap).
Lucidtoph.
https://www.seeking.com/member/30d9a84a-9942-4674-b1c0-5971baa27b00
Another 420 fan, and also into little bit of bdsm, babygirl / daddy dynamic, which you may be seeing pattern of the types I usually like. We made it to a date, had dinner, agreed to $$, hit it off well enough that I was driving her to her car and I was fingering her on the way, she was going to follow me to my place, but soon as I dropped her off, she texted me that something happened and her roommate was in crisis mode or some shit and couldn't come to my place, which pissed me off so I ghosted her. (not entirely sure if something really happened or not).
We messaged last fall and set up a meeting in NE Mpls. Late that afternoon, she asked for a rain check due to leaf raking that took longer than expected and a need to do laundry, at which point I blocked her.
Some highlights from our exchange:
"I'm a people pleaser. I prefer my partner to take control. Lead. Typically enjoy Dd / lg / semi pet".
"I've been in a strictly D / s relationship that focused more on control and pain and that wasn't for me".
"I'm very open to trying new kink and have few hard nos. Long as it's with the right partner and take time as needed" (Hard nos were feet and other women.).
Really appreciate your other reviews.
BorderTraveler
03-20-20, 22:10
Seems like you get around so I will ask.
You are anyone have an experience with JESSLEE28?
https://www.seeking.com/member/ee97301b-9543-4275-af21-35807c93a9ba
Been around a long time so wondering if she is a pro or if anyone has experience?
Thanks.
I don't currently have an active account due to solid rotation already, but here's what I ran across in most recently active that I recognized. Generically using "text" for moving off SA for communication (coulda been text, kik, snap).
Jessraetaylor.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0c15295b-1eda-429f-861f-5cd7d683af0b
Moved to text after a little back and forth, she's 420 friendly, and we set a tentative date, $$. 5 then she ghosted and went off SA for a while. She showed up again months later, and didn't respond to me via SA or text when I tried to reconnect.
Daisydivine1999.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2c8083e6-61ce-491d-adbe-b7bfd7dba9fb
Contacted due to interest in DDLG, we chatted, moved offsite to text, wasn't long before she was asking for money to send a pic, didn't bode well so ended it there.
TheFukDoll.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c78295fe-017a-43c1-8213-76bc1fcbcd89
Others have already reviewed her, but I will reiterate, definitely DTF, 3 $ but probably could see her for $$. 5, maybe $$, she seemed open to negotiating if it's long term, she definitely is BIG into BDSM, as I am. Have seen her 3 times, lots of fun slapping her around. She will see you if you aren't into BDSM, but if you're good at it, she'll love you. Little bigger than pics suggest, but definitely fun time.
Lucidtoph.
https://www.seeking.com/member/30d9a84a-9942-4674-b1c0-5971baa27b00
Another 420 fan, and also into little bit of bdsm, babygirl / daddy dynamic, which you may be seeing pattern of the types I usually like. We made it to a date, had dinner, agreed to $$, hit it off well enough that I was driving her to her car and I was fingering her on the way, she was going to follow me to my place, but soon as I dropped her off, she texted me that something happened and her roommate was in crisis mode or some shit and couldn't come to my place, which pissed me off so I ghosted her. (not entirely sure if something really happened or not).
JJ2019.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0daab5db-a69c-409f-be58-e0f7ba733139
She's a pro, was DTF pretty much immediately, pretty solid ask of 4 $ I declined only due to other options and at better rates at the time.
Avivababyyy888.
https://www.seeking.com/member/9a1416a2-e16c-478b-8a87-1032a25c3497
Also a pro, I think, 420 friendly, even though we discussed hanging out and having dinner and whatsuch, she came over for 3 $ but was very rushed. Promised to come see me again at $$. 5, and spend time together, but I never followed up with her due to concern she was going to be time watcher every time. Small tits, but nice body overall, and even cuter in person. CBJ sucked tho.
Addy03.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4a196dba-8a79-44cb-afcf-b3a1b575e009
Texted back and forth for quite a while, I was delaying due to overload of SBs, but eventually moved to text, planned to get together the "next week", she disappeared for a week, then would respond a bit, then disappear for 5 days, then respond, then. You get it, I cut bait.
LoveChloee.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8903ccbc-bb21-49a6-b355-42df8a920168
Saw her probably 2 years ago, so little hazy on the deets, but she's DTF, was fun but nothing special since I only saw her once, but reasonable rate, I think it was $$.
QuantumFlux359
03-21-20, 01:12
Seems like you get around so I will ask.
You are anyone have an experience with JESSLEE28?
https://www.seeking.com/member/ee97301b-9543-4275-af21-35807c93a9ba
Been around a long time so wondering if she is a pro or if anyone has experience?
Thanks.Matter of fact, I have, that's Jessica, saw her a few times about a year and a half ago and she is actually one I'd like to have back! I think we agreed on $$. 5, she is also a sub, loves gagging, sloppy, slapping, hard pounding, getting used, good times. She is tiny, loved throwing her around. She is def not a pro, and wants a long term thing with some connection. Treat her good or I might come get her back! I would have stayed with her longer for sure, but I had some amazing other options at the time and had to make some choices.
BorderTraveler
03-22-20, 21:02
Thanks for the info. She sounds fun.
Matter of fact, I have, that's Jessica, saw her a few times about a year and a half ago and she is actually one I'd like to have back! I think we agreed on $$. 5, she is also a sub, loves gagging, sloppy, slapping, hard pounding, getting used, good times. She is tiny, loved throwing her around. She is def not a pro, and wants a long term thing with some connection. Treat her good or I might come get her back! I would have stayed with her longer for sure, but I had some amazing other options at the time and had to make some choices.
Thanks! Anyone know if bareback + CIP is available? Tinder girls are usually amenable to it, not sure about SA girls.Didn't directly address it with her, but my hunch is yes. More broadly on SA: I'm in double digits and all have been BB; all but one was CIP (my choice - pulled out due to lack of BC).
HardWoodsman
03-24-20, 02:01
Thanks! Anyone know if bareback + CIP is available? Tinder girls are usually amenable to it, not sure about SA girls.Last time I spoke with her it was a hard no but YMMV depending how she feels about you. Rents coming due. Sometimes 2 hundred in the hand is worth one in the Bush.
Most I've met are open to it. If that's what you're looking for just ask and if not move on.
My favorite was a 34 year old former model that looked back at me in doggie with her big blue eyes and said "you can cum in me, I'm fixed".
QuantumFlux359
03-24-20, 17:05
Didn't directly address it with her, but my hunch is yes. More broadly on SA: I'm in double digits and all have been BB; all but one was CIP (my choice - pulled out due to lack of BC).Partly due to BB being what I'm seeking, I'd say 90% of my SA have been BB as well, and I'm up at about 40 or 50 total over the last 5 ish years, usually CIP. Those that weren't. Well they are the shortest length arrangements typically.
PenilePerson15
03-25-20, 13:17
Partly due to BB being what I'm seeking, I'd say 90% of my SA have been BB as well, and I'm up at about 40 or 50 total over the last 5 ish years, usually CIP. Those that weren't. Well they are the shortest length arrangements typically.To me, bareback and cum in pussy signal a permissive attitude but also someone who doesn't view their body as a source of income and rather a vehicle of pleasure. Pimps hate bareback as they should because it devalues their asset. Also, those who regularly engage in bareback have good hygiene at least from what I've experienced. I'm pretty particular about who I will bareback but once I find a good one I get hooked for a while. I'll pass it up if it's not perfect and I've been doing a lot of that lately. In 2020 I've only had one who didn't offer bareback and that was my most recent review, but I don't always pull the trigger. Like the 2020 trend so far though at least in terms of availability.
Partly due to BB being what I'm seeking, I'd say 90% of my SA have been BB as well, and I'm up at about 40 or 50 total over the last 5 ish years, usually CIP. Those that weren't. Well they are the shortest length arrangements typically.To elaborate on my experience a bit further, my SBs' approaches to BB have been roughly:
20% - BB is assumed or requested with no inquiry on testing status.
60% - Move ahead with verbal assurance; I. E. , "Are you clean?
20% - Need to see test results before proceeding, usually shown on my phone.
Resistance to BB seems highest online (pre-meeting) and lowest in the bedroom.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7a08a23b-bd81-457d-b044-7be65f39f63c
She's a grifter. Don't let her out of your sight.
Age (older than stated), smoking status, and photo are inaccurate (slender, but no longer super thin).
You've been warned.
BorderTraveler
04-01-20, 19:00
SBABYYY69.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0710229e-ad4d-434f-93b5-d7497ef3262d
Things seemed to be progressing well and quickly with this one. We moved to text and agreed on an amount, she was hitting the GPS area. Doing some research I was confident she was legit and pics should really be her. Worked on scheduling something and then she tells me she really needs this as she is living out of her car and was in a car accident. Well idk about you guys but I won't be seeing anyone living out of their car. I understand people go through rough patches for varying reasons but that's not what I am looking for. Told her that was a no go and she went off on a texting tirad.
SIMPLEYME873.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7c99caaf-ef5b-4945-a20b-1a11d395a3ed
Chatted with this one and also moved to text. She wanted to meet quickly and amount was agreed upon. She wanted to meet ASAP and then changed it to after the weekend. Gave some story about her car being worked on she wouldn't be free until Monday. Then that changed to she was getting a rental and could meet during the weekend so I told her she needed to call me the morning of the day we agreed to meet. I EMPHASIZED this. I like to do this to verify they really are serious about meeting. Well the morning came and went no contact. So afternoon I pinged her and she said sorry she forgot and was busy with getting the car and groceries. I really don't give 2nd chances because of past experience and if one was serious and it was important you make the point of doing what you said you would. She wasn't happy with that and it was my loss and it very may well be but I'm not going to start stuff off on the wrong foot. YMMV.
LoveToTravel19
04-07-20, 17:31
https://www.seeking.com/member/7a08a23b-bd81-457d-b044-7be65f39f63c
She's a grifter. Don't let her out of your sight.
Age (older than stated), smoking status, and photo are inaccurate (slender, but no longer super thin).
You've been warned.Can you tell me what happened? I have been with her and her older sister (21 and 18 respectively) for three different threesomes and never had a problem. Honestly the one you note here I am much more attracted too. Did she not allow you to have vaginal sex with her? Is that the problem because I know she has done that to various people. Not arguing with you or debating what you said was true. I just trying to understand so I know whether to cut them off. Good luck.
Can you tell me what happened? I have been with her and her older sister (21 and 18 respectively) for three different threesomes and never had a problem. Honestly the one you note here I am much more attracted too. Did she not allow you to have vaginal sex with her? Is that the problem because I know she has done that to various people. Not arguing with you or debating what you said was true. I just trying to understand so I know whether to cut them off. Good luck.
I'm glossing over details here as not to violate forum rules. I will say though, she smelled like an ashtray. She also has strabismus (is cross-eyed); had I seen that in a face pic ahead of time, it would have given me pause.
The one I met is currently 22 and has a sister about three years younger, matching the profile age. (I didn't learn about the sister until afterward.) Interesting that they do threesomes. Is the younger one on SA? Or perhaps they share a profile -- in the lone profile pic, the face is obscured, and it may explain why she wasn't as thin as expected.
Anything more specific I can say about her would likely violate forum rules, so I'll stop here. Sorry.
LoveToTravel19
04-08-20, 12:01
I'm glossing over details here as not to violate forum rules. I will say though, she smelled like an ashtray. She also has strabismus (is cross-eyed); had I seen that in a face pic ahead of time, it would have given me pause.
The one I met is currently 22 and has a sister about three years younger, matching the profile age. (I didn't learn about the sister until afterward.) Interesting that they do threesomes. Is the younger one on SA? Or perhaps they share a profile -- in the lone profile pic, the face is obscured, and it may explain why she wasn't as thin as expected.
Anything more specific I can say about her would likely violate forum rules, so I'll stop here. Sorry.DM me but yes you probably got the older sister not the younger one. Yes the older one smokes but the younger one doesn't. The older one has been around the block many many many times but the younger one is fresh and has issues sexually but very sweet.
HardWoodsman
04-10-20, 23:22
Similar experience with her. GPS for sure. Everything was going well until it was time to meet and then she flaked.
SBABYYY69.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0710229e-ad4d-434f-93b5-d7497ef3262d
Things seemed to be progressing well and quickly with this one. We moved to text and agreed on an amount, she was hitting the GPS area. Doing some research I was confident she was legit and pics should really be her. Worked on scheduling something and then she tells me she really needs this as she is living out of her car and was in a car accident. Well idk about you guys but I won't be seeing anyone living out of their car. I understand people go through rough patches for varying reasons but that's not what I am looking for. Told her that was a no go and she went off on a texting tirad.
.
MinnyMassage
04-11-20, 19:04
I'm getting ready to jump into the SB world a bit finally, and have a good understanding of how it works (thanks for the tips Quantum Flux). My S. O. likes the idea of me getting a SB, and is fairly OK with her coming the house. That said, I wanted to check with everyone and see if the experienced folk her tend to see SBs at hotels (or their place), or at your own home? I wouldn't bring an escort to my house (I'm a big fan of discretion and no drama), but I thought it might be less of a concern with SBs. Obviously there is always some risk, but I was hoping to get experiences from people on the forum. Thanks!
I'm getting ready to jump into the SB world a bit finally, and have a good understanding of how it works (thanks for the tips Quantum Flux). My S. O. likes the idea of me getting a SB, and is fairly OK with her coming the house. That said, I wanted to check with everyone and see if the experienced folk her tend to see SBs at hotels (or their place), or at your own home? I wouldn't bring an escort to my house (I'm a big fan of discretion and no drama), but I thought it might be less of a concern with SBs. Obviously there is always some risk, but I was hoping to get experiences from people on the forum. Thanks!FWIW, I typically have two encounters at a hotel before moving to my place or hers. That's enough time in my experience to 1) evaluate whether they're stable enough to invite into my home and 2) assess our long-term potential. I much prefer taking SBs in my own bed for reasons of cost, comfort and convenience.
If you have an upper-bracket home however, you need to be especially discerning about whom you bring over and when. I always hammer out arrangements beforehand to prevent movement of the goal posts based on their perception of my net worth. That said, bringing them home for the first time is usually a positive experience as they discover that I'm not a paper tiger.
Also FWIW, in looking for someone stable enough to bring home, I stick to SBs with at least a four-year degree or those enrolled in a four-year program. On SA, the contrast between this group and those with less educational attainment is strong in my experience, with more drama surrounding the less formally educated. (More ghosting, fewer coping skills, less respect for boundaries, poorer sexual health, etc.) It's not foolproof, but educational attainment is an easy way to sort the crowd into safer and riskier bets IMO.
PhillipPlein
04-13-20, 17:22
Hi yall,
New to this forum and to the whole idea of being a SD looking for SB, but I'm a veteran when it comes to the escort game. Quite frankly, I'm getting a bit tired of the escort options in the area and looking to get some exposure to new girls through SA, specifically a FWB situation that I can rotate through. My first impression is that girls on SA are definitely prettier than your average escort, but after reading through this forum is it as cost / time effective as an escort? Reason being is that it seems you have to sink quite a bit of time into garnering a relationship (or at least attempt to) with some of these girls for them to feel comfortable with intimacy.
With all of this in mind, I have a few questions that hopefully some of you can help with! Thanks in advance!
1. How long does it take for you to close with girls on SA, especially ones that are down with being FWB? 2nd meetup, 3rd, etc. ?
2. Do you typically have to book a hotel or has your SB provided a location?
3. Do you usually specify via text upfront that it will be a PPM situation and has that been successful?
4. Standard price for each meetup for let's say a girl that is rated 6-8? Right now I'm paying roughly 80 - 150 for q. V. Or hrr with escorts. How often does your time last with SB's? A few hours or is it a quick PPM session?
5. I definitely see a lot of spam and fake accounts so how often have you been flaked on or been cat fished by these women?
QuantumFlux359
04-13-20, 21:51
Hi yall,
New to this forum and to the whole idea of being a SD looking for SB, but I'm a veteran when it comes to the escort game. Quite frankly, I'm getting a bit tired of the escort options in the area and looking to get some exposure to new girls through SA, specifically a FWB situation that I can rotate through. My first impression is that girls on SA are definitely prettier than your average escort, but after reading through this forum is it as cost / time effective as an escort? Reason being is that it seems you have to sink quite a bit of time into garnering a relationship (or at least attempt to) with some of these girls for them to feel comfortable with intimacy.
With all of this in mind, I have a few questions that hopefully some of you can help with! Thanks in advance!
1. How long does it take for you to close with girls on SA, especially ones that are down with being FWB? 2nd meetup, 3rd, etc. ?
2. Do you typically have to book a hotel or has your SB provided a location?
3. Do you usually specify via text upfront that it will be a PPM situation and has that been successful?
4. Standard price for each meetup for let's say a girl that is rated 6-8? Right now I'm paying roughly 80 - 150 for q. V. Or hrr with escorts. How often does your time last with SB's? A few hours or is it a quick PPM session?
5. I definitely see a lot of spam and fake accounts so how often have you been flaked on or been cat fished by these women?Welcome the bowl. In hearing answers keep experience in mind, of course, as you might imagine, my initial contact to smacking ass time window has gotten a lot shorter over the years. But you really have to cast a wide net, you might contact 50 women, and end up with 1 or 2 dinner dates total. There's no doubt, there's considerably more footwork, and you have to remember these are not pro's, they usually want some type of connection, doesn't have to be deep bonding shit, but if you can schmooze a bit, find some little way to connect with them, the quality is SO much better than Escort world, imo. I have had sooo many encounters I NEVER would have been able to have in the escort world.
1. Depends. I usually will zero in on the ones that I get a good feel will take 2 meetups tops before boogie down productions start, but there are exceptions for the true rated 9's and 10's, those I will give some leeway of a few dates. But status quo is a meet and greet dinner or coffee or something, and plan 2nd meetup where party starts. I've had a fair number that we went back to my place right after dinner, but usually it's 2nd date. You want that meet and greet every time, though, that's your time to assess their crazy level. As Anonyminn pointed out, before you bring them to your place, got to get a solid feel of crazy to hotness ratio.
2. I typically bring them to my home.
And expanding to cover MinnyMassage's question too, I think you just have to judge yourself your concern with what your neighbors might think of you if they thought something was up, but as far as legally, this is all legal, so they can suck rocks from that angle. I'm a single dad, have my child 50/50, and hate my neighbors anyway, so I meet up with my SBs on my free nights at my place. I live in a pretty average unassuming, middle class neighborhood. Little bit rednecky as I'm out in far burbs, so maybe that helps everyone to mind their own business, but been doing this 5 ish years and never had an issue, most of the time with a rotation of 2-3 SBs. I always tell my SB to dress normal or have a coat (on the way in at least.), and I leave the garage open and unlock the garage door when they are on the way. When they arrive, they just walk in so to the neighbors it looks like it's someone I know. Some SBs have been weirded out by just walking in, but it still looks better imo to have them come in the garage and knock, it feels more "I know this person"why imo At least that's my angle I'm rollin with! 100% respect Anonyminn's angle, the upper end home definitely lets' them know you're legit, personally I feel my more low key home puts them more at ease, but I'm also often going for the chill, weed smoking, edgy type. I like me some model types, but I don't go for the "I want adventure and to hang out on boats" model types, more the I do erotic photos with nipple clamps and ball gags model types. LOL And 1000% agree with his point that I prefer to take them in my own bed, my environment, my toys. I honestly haven't seen a correlation with education and the stability of the SB, tbh, but I suppose it would increase your odds.
3. Always. Also need to always specify that allowance starts when intimacy starts! Should never be paying full allowance for a meet and greet, at most a little token gift, pay their gas or something. This also helps with point #1 above, if you tell them "yea, I have been scammed with women that just want free dinner and allowance and weren't serious, so when we're comfy playing doctor and patient in the bathtub, allowance starts", then you will weed out the ones that are either going to drag it out, or weren't serious. Just tread careful because you will scare some too (remembering these aren't pro's).
4. This of course varies a lot when you factor in other stuff (did you buy stuff for them, how many dinners, give them anything else, etc) , but for general numbers, I'd say for a rate 6-8 girl range, 200-300,2-3 hours ish. My main right now is an 8. 5, 200 per, 3-4 hours. While I have had a few that came over for as low as 100-150, hour or so, and have had some that turned into girlfriend types that there was no set allowance anymore, but those are pretty rare, imo (but the ultimate prize! : P). You won't find anything lower / shorter than that. Too short a visit and now you're SB feels like and Escort and that doesn't end well either.
5. By the time I get to having dinner, I feel like I usually have a good read on if they are legit, so flakes are pretty rare now, but catfishing is a tougher one, so many women are so good are taking pics hiding flaws, you really just have to judge how MUCH you were catfished sometimes, LOL, so for times I was catfished enough to have a short dinner and gtfo, maybe 1 in 10 now.
Hi yall,
New to this forum and to the whole idea of being a SD looking for SB, but I'm a veteran when it comes to the escort game. Quite frankly, I'm getting a bit tired of the escort options in the area and looking to get some exposure to new girls through SA, specifically a FWB situation that I can rotate through. My first impression is that girls on SA are definitely prettier than your average escort, but after reading through this forum is it as cost / time effective as an escort? Reason being is that it seems you have to sink quite a bit of time into garnering a relationship (or at least attempt to) with some of these girls for them to feel comfortable with intimacy.
With all of this in mind, I have a few questions that hopefully some of you can help with! Thanks in advance!
1. How long does it take for you to close with girls on SA, especially ones that are down with being FWB? 2nd meetup, 3rd, etc. ?
2. Do you typically have to book a hotel or has your SB provided a location?
3. Do you usually specify via text upfront that it will be a PPM situation and has that been successful?
4. Standard price for each meetup for let's say a girl that is rated 6-8? Right now I'm paying roughly 80 - 150 for q. V. Or hrr with escorts. How often does your time last with SB's? A few hours or is it a quick PPM session?
5. I definitely see a lot of spam and fake accounts so how often have you been flaked on or been cat fished by these women?QuantumFlux's answers are golden.
A few of my thoughts / experiences:
1. First or second meetup or they're gone. The first meeting (sans pandemic) is usually a M&G at a restaurant, bar or coffee shop; I pick up the tab, but it's otherwise uncompensated. I don't expect to move immediately from the M&G to the sack, but often do. If not, I deftly state that we need to horizontal tango at our next meeting for the relationship to continue. If they hedge at that, convey that they're competing in a fast-moving marketplace loaded with other beautiful young women: If they want your help, they need to put out ASAP, before someone else swoops in. This flips the script on some of the 9's and 10's who are used to having all the power.
2. I always book my own rooms. Too risky otherwise -- from multiple angles.
3. In my opinion, PPM keeps SBs on their toes; they know they need to satisfy you every time or risk being cut off.
4. I think 8's offer the best bang-for-the-buck on SA, though with my limited availability and uber-selective eye, I mainly chase 9's and 10's.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4e52a25f-e7ac-4a87-a0bb-b17ef692ae10
Her reply after initial contact: "Hello, I am studying criminology because I want to go into the FBI someday. May I ask what your prices would be depending on the type of meet up?" Maybe she's doing work-study as a reservation agent at the Graybar Hotel.
HardWoodsman
04-14-20, 21:09
I would hope LE would be much less obvious than that but they're not all rocket scientist either. At the least she's not very discreet. Thanks for the warning.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4e52a25f-e7ac-4a87-a0bb-b17ef692ae10
Her reply after initial contact: "Hello, I am studying criminology because I want to go into the FBI someday. May I ask what your prices would be depending on the type of meet up?" Maybe she's doing work-study as a reservation agent at the Graybar Hotel.
PhillipPlein
04-15-20, 01:16
Welcome the bowl. In hearing answers keep experience in mind, of course, as you might imagine, my initial contact to smacking ass time window has gotten a lot shorter over the years. But you really have to cast a wide net, you might contact 50 women, and end up with 1 or 2 dinner dates total. There's no doubt, there's considerably more footwork, and you have to remember these are not pro's, they usually want some type of connection, doesn't have to be deep bonding shit, but if you can schmooze a bit, find some little way to connect with them, the quality is SO much better than Escort world, imo. I have had sooo many encounters I NEVER would have been able to have in the escort world.
1. Depends. I usually will zero in on the ones that I get a good feel will take 2 meetups tops before boogie down productions start, but there are exceptions for the true rated 9's and 10's, those I will give some leeway of a few dates. But status quo is a meet and greet dinner or coffee or something, and plan 2nd meetup where party starts. I've had a fair number that we went back to my place right after dinner, but usually it's 2nd date. You want that meet and greet every time, though, that's your time to assess their crazy level. As Anonyminn pointed out, before you bring them to your place, got to get a solid feel of crazy to hotness ratio.Thanks a lot for the thorough response it was incredibly helpful! A few more thought provoking questions now that you've got me thinking more about this.
1. So how does one keep their anonymity with SB's? With escorts you might exchange first names (I always provide a fake), but how honest are you with your identity? I'm in a position where I don't have a wife and kids but I would rather not have those around me discover my side hobby haha.
2. Outside of the intimacy / PPM situation, do you also actually go out on dates with your SB and / or engage in public activities? When you stated 2-3 hours of their time, I would definitely need to find something out of the bedroom to occupy our time. Which means additional expenses that you'll have to incur.
3. After you've gotten well acquainted with your SB do you ever change terms or allowances? I guess you've stated that a no allowance SB is rare, but have you ever changed prices after a few months of meeting?
QuantumFlux359
04-15-20, 20:08
Thanks a lot for the thorough response it was incredibly helpful! A few more thought provoking questions now that you've got me thinking more about this.
1. So how does one keep their anonymity with SB's? With escorts you might exchange first names (I always provide a fake), but how honest are you with your identity? I'm in a position where I don't have a wife and kids but I would rather not have those around me discover my side hobby haha.
2. Outside of the intimacy / PPM situation, do you also actually go out on dates with your SB and / or engage in public activities? When you stated 2-3 hours of their time, I would definitely need to find something out of the bedroom to occupy our time. Which means additional expenses that you'll have to incur.
3. After you've gotten well acquainted with your SB do you ever change terms or allowances? I guess you've stated that a no allowance SB is rare, but have you ever changed prices after a few months of meeting?1. That really depends on your level of need for anonymity. If you own your home, any semi resourceful intelligent person can find out your name through the web. It takes some sleuthing and work, and potential a few bucks, but it's possible. That's the big hole, imo. But what are the chances of that? Especially after you have met, gotten a feel for them, etc, idk, I'm a trust your gut guy and always always always be ready to walk away, no matter how hard they make your dick. So I'd say as long as you don't need to give them your real last name, and you can give allowance via apps like Venmo that don't list your name, you're fairly good to go. Personally, it's been a mix. Like I said, I'm a trust your gut guy, I feel like I'm a pretty good judge of character, so I've shared my real name with long term SBs, usually after I already knew, and have googled, their name, and always after we have already hit it at least once, any scammers or ill intentioned are not going to put out first. Even the ones that have ended badly, where I might have a little concern they find out my last name and harass me at work, at the end of the day, I try to remember, again, these aren't pro's. These are normal girls, and yes sometimes they aren't emotionally stable, but likely not in the cause chaos at your office level of instability (got to remember, they don't want anyone to know, usually, either). More like you might find me crying on your doorstep at 4 am style if anything. LOL I've had no issues.
2. That again is up to you and your SB, but generally, no. In my experience, the ones that want to go "do something fun" every time, are not going to be long term solutions. Partly because yes, then you are dealing with extra expenses, but also because they seem to be the ones that want the trips and days on the lake and shopping sprees, and that's not my jam. For me, that 2-4 hours might be a couple hours of hanging out chatting, watching a movie / show, eating something, just whatever, and then an hour or two of bedroom. Now, I do occasionally do the dinner or the shopping trip where I spend 50 or 100 bucks buying them something cute, but generally I do those sorts of things in the first few meetups, then most meetups thereafter are hang at my house only. I have occasionally had to elude to the fact that "if I'm spending money out and about, I can't give you as much allowance as I have a budget" sorta thing.
3. I've had this go in variety of ways, but the general rule of thumb. No. I've had SBs that turned into girlfriends / fuckbuddies. I've also had some that would stay longer than originally planned, overnight, etc. , and a couple that were happy with me giving them "whatever I could", but even then I would try to be decent about it. But I've also had one that was so. Fucking. Amazing. That I upped how much I gave her of my own accord, and would have been happy to continue doing if she hadn't disappeared on me. But I feel like generally, you agreed on a rate, that is what it is. I've had PLENTY ask for more after a first meetup, obvious late onset GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome) so those I told to take a hike.
PhillipPlein
04-18-20, 00:36
1. That really depends on your level of need for anonymity. If you own your home, any semi resourceful intelligent person can find out your name through the web. It takes some sleuthing and work, and potential a few bucks, but it's possible. That's the big hole, imo. But what are the chances of that? Especially after you have met, gotten a feel for them, etc, idk, I'm a trust your gut guy and always always always be ready to walk away, no matter how hard they make your dick. So I'd say as long as you don't need to give them your real last name, and you can give allowance via apps like Venmo that don't list your name, you're fairly good to go. Personally, it's been a mix. Like I said, I'm a trust your gut guy, I feel like I'm a pretty good judge of character, so I've shared my real name with long term SBs, usually after I already knew, and have googled, their name, and always after we have already hit it at least once, any scammers or ill intentioned are not going to put out first. Even the ones that have ended badly, where I might have a little concern they find out my last name and harass me at work, at the end of the day, I try to remember, again, these aren't pro's. These are normal girls, and yes sometimes they aren't emotionally stable, but likely not in the cause chaos at your office level of instability (got to remember, they don't want anyone to know, usually, either). More like you might find me crying on your doorstep at 4 am style if anything. LOL I've had no issues.
2. That again is up to you and your SB, but generally, no. In my experience, the ones that want to go "do something fun" every time, are not going to be long term solutions. Partly because yes, then you are dealing with extra expenses, but also because they seem to be the ones that want the trips and days on the lake and shopping sprees, and that's not my jam. For me, that 2-4 hours might be a couple hours of hanging out chatting, watching a movie / show, eating something, just whatever, and then an hour or two of bedroom. Now, I do occasionally do the dinner or the shopping trip where I spend 50 or 100 bucks buying them something cute, but generally I do those sorts of things in the first few meetups, then most meetups thereafter are hang at my house only. I have occasionally had to elude to the fact that "if I'm spending money out and about, I can't give you as much allowance as I have a budget" sorta thing.
3. I've had this go in variety of ways, but the general rule of thumb. No. I've had SBs that turned into girlfriends / fuckbuddies. I've also had some that would stay longer than originally planned, overnight, etc. , and a couple that were happy with me giving them "whatever I could", but even then I would try to be decent about it. But I've also had one that was so. Fucking. Amazing. That I upped how much I gave her of my own accord, and would have been happy to continue doing if she hadn't disappeared on me. But I feel like generally, you agreed on a rate, that is what it is. I've had PLENTY ask for more after a first meetup, obvious late onset GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome) so those I told to take a hike.You've provided me with the reassurance to go ahead with this. I've definitely been looking up more ways to stay discrete (using prepaid cards for premium, etc.) but this helps a lot! If you have anymore tips or watch outs you've accumulated over the years that would be appreciated!
Thanks a lot for the thorough response it was incredibly helpful! A few more thought provoking questions now that you've got me thinking more about this.
1. So how does one keep their anonymity with SB's? With escorts you might exchange first names (I always provide a fake), but how honest are you with your identity? I'm in a position where I don't have a wife and kids but I would rather not have those around me discover my side hobby haha.
2. Outside of the intimacy / PPM situation, do you also actually go out on dates with your SB and / or engage in public activities? When you stated 2-3 hours of their time, I would definitely need to find something out of the bedroom to occupy our time. Which means additional expenses that you'll have to incur.
3. After you've gotten well acquainted with your SB do you ever change terms or allowances? I guess you've stated that a no allowance SB is rare, but have you ever changed prices after a few months of meeting?1. I concur with QuantumFlux almost word for word on this one.
A personal rule of thumb is that I should know her identity before she knows mine. Though a number of SBs try hiding their name early, it's often easy to uncover based on data they've shared. With a name, I can usually validate a lot about them -- hometown, family, schooling, work, criminal history, etc. If that lines up with what they've told me, it builds my trust and can accelerate the relationship.
2. In short, sometimes.
As with QuantumFlux, I tend to "date" more early on. At that stage, I'm discerning whether or not they're a long-term fit in a low-risk environment. On the flip side, I'm demonstrating to SBs that I don't view them as merely a piece of meat. (While I place a real premium on appearance, I value high GPAs, strong test scores, tough majors, and exceptional talents {athletics, arts, etc. } almost as much.).
As the relationship develops though, I still enjoy going out. For one, it's an ego stroke to walk into a popular joint with a top-shelf SB and know that every other guy wishes they could take your date home. Dinner out also presents her with an opportunity to warm herself up with a glass or two of wine. This makes the extra expense of going out worth it to me.
That said, I equally appreciate the simplicity of picking her up, bringing her home, and heading straight to the bedroom for a few hours.
3. Terms of my arrangements have remained pretty static thus far. That's largely a function of being married, which really limits how the relationship can evolve. That said, I'm considering upping the terms for my main SB -- possibly the subject of a future post.
NerdyGuy12
04-21-20, 10:15
Any Intel on this one? Judging by her pics and headline, she seems pretty dtf.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c7dc0e21-94f3-475b-87ac-babd64be1818
HardWoodsman
04-21-20, 18:38
Chatted with her a bit. She's pretty laid back and was down for meeting but she didn't want to meet outside the cities. With the current situation I left it there. Toft and let us know.
Any Intel on this one? Judging by her pics and headline, she seems pretty dtf.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c7dc0e21-94f3-475b-87ac-babd64be1818
Any Intel on this one? Judging by her pics and headline, she seems pretty dtf.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c7dc0e21-94f3-475b-87ac-babd64be1818Stated that she prefers PPM and readily agreed to 400. You must host and (as HardWoodsman said) it must be "in or near Minneapolis". Firm no-go on BB however, so I dropped it there.
NerdyGuy12
04-24-20, 08:06
Thanks to the kik anon sent me, and a bit of Googling, I found out she's a cam girl. Naked pics here:
https://megacams.me/cam/kitikiticat/775589415
Stated that she prefers PPM and readily agreed to 400. You must host and (as HardWoodsman said) it must be "in or near Minneapolis". Firm no-go on BB however, so I dropped it there.
PhillipPlein
04-30-20, 15:32
Hey yall,
Just curious to know how many of you all are meeting with new SBs due to this whole Covid situation? Are SBs pretty active right now? We all know this Covid situation won't be going away anytime soon but I'm new to the sugar scene and I'm getting a bit restless.
QuantumFlux359
05-06-20, 12:19
Hey yall,
Just curious to know how many of you all are meeting with new SBs due to this whole Covid situation? Are SBs pretty active right now? We all know this Covid situation won't be going away anytime soon but I'm new to the sugar scene and I'm getting a bit restless.I may have little looser standards than Anonyminn but HELLLLLL NO. LOL Regardless of even the question of if you can trust this 20 something that they are doing their part to stay home and social distance etc, but even my long time regular that I do trust 100%. Short rant. We got to do this ALL IN folks. When 2 people then 4 then 100 then 10,000 then 100,000, all decide they aren't going to follow directives anymore, that's exactly why MN cases are RISING. This is NOT political, this is a health emergency. I have multiple friends and family in healthcare that are risking THEIR lives every day for OUR lives. They are begging you, please stay home.
Hey yall,
Just curious to know how many of you all are meeting with new SBs due to this whole Covid situation? Are SBs pretty active right now? We all know this Covid situation won't be going away anytime soon but I'm new to the sugar scene and I'm getting a bit restless.I've thrown in the towel and shifted to a previously unthinkable online arrangement with my main SB who's now hunkering down out of state. I spent lots of time in March and early April chasing SBs who either fell off the site or weren't serious about meeting; combined with the rising COVID caseload, finding someone new isn't worth it to me. I'd rather keep things going with my trusted primary and hope that she comes back in fall.
For those in the market, Katiefulloflife reached out to me the other day asked if I'd like to meet. I've not met her, but she left a good impression; a few extra pounds were all that kept me from pursuing her.
PhillipPlein
05-08-20, 14:57
I may have little looser standards than Anonyminn but HELLLLLL NO. LOL Regardless of even the question of if you can trust this 20 something that they are doing their part to stay home and social distance etc, but even my long time regular that I do trust 100%. Short rant. We got to do this ALL IN folks. When 2 people then 4 then 100 then 10,000 then 100,000, all decide they aren't going to follow directives anymore, that's exactly why MN cases are RISING. This is NOT political, this is a health emergency. I have multiple friends and family in healthcare that are risking THEIR lives every day for OUR lives. They are begging you, please stay home.I completely understand and similar to you I also have friends in the Healthcare industry risking their lives but to play devils advocate how long are we really expecting to quarantine for? Until a vaccine is made in 2021? Until more testing is issued out? I thought the original plan was to quarantine in order to increase our Healthcare capacity and not overflood our hospitals? I'm not siding with either side but just food for thought.
QuantumFlux359
05-11-20, 11:49
I completely understand and similar to you I also have friends in the Healthcare industry risking their lives but to play devils advocate how long are we really expecting to quarantine for? Until a vaccine is made in 2021? Until more testing is issued out? I thought the original plan was to quarantine in order to increase our Healthcare capacity and not overflood our hospitals? I'm not siding with either side but just food for thought.I appreciate you presenting your response the way you did and I'm happy to answer you, as I know some "news" outlets. Are not presenting facts and information as they should, so the simple answer is, follow the CDC and health community guidelines for opening back up out of quarantine. Guidance was already issued. See links below. Same info available in a variety of fact based sites. The end all is specifically testing and tracing need to be ramped up before we can truly start being somewhat "normal" again. I personally don't understand why people seem to find a way to "argue" what to do. This is a health emergency, why people don't listen to the health experts in a health emergency is beyond me.
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/852090268/white-house-rejected-overly-prescriptive-cdc-guidance-for-reopening-businesses
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/07/white-house-cdc-reopening-guidelines-243778
The original plan was and still is to control the spread so we don't overwhelm our hospital infrastructure. While New York and hot spots are on the decline, most of the country is still on the rise. Pretty straight forward, if we exceed the number of available beds / respirators / hospital capacity, people will die. Unnecessarily. Period. So the longer we can string this out the better. Time is critical. Time for hospitals to continue to ramp up supplies and capacity, time for researching to find treatments that work. Time for vaccine trials to move ahead.
If you look at models from other countries, we have the template on how to handle this properly, but the problem is, as I said, not everyone adheres. Not even close. For every person that thinks they are invulnerable or this is infringing on their rights or that this is a government conspiracy to control the global economy (yes, this is what some people think is going on.), it's going to take us that much longer to come out the other side. I'm not insensitive to the struggles of everyone that has lost their jobs and livelihood, that's where our government has failed us in not providing a safety net and quick action in response to help it's citizens like other countries have done.
Any intel on this one? We're in the early going but she seems eager to meet. (Maybe a little too eager.).
https://www.seeking.com/member/c4ae5af1-a5b4-4a23-bed8-29686e32a996
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