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Riina
08-16-19, 17:17
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/

262 has two new girls working today.Met Domenica and walked out after 5 minutes. The smell of her perfume was so overwhelming that I almost hurled.

Colesmithe
08-16-19, 22:16
Met Domenica and walked out after 5 minutes. The smell of her perfume was so overwhelming that I almost hurled.Ouch. What was her reaction?

Riina
08-17-19, 05:57
Ouch. What was her reaction?Weird. She thought I was a cop and asked me to swear I was not. I'll add Domenica was a Russian hag with a very business like attitude. I asked for half my money back since nothing happened, she said no and I left.

The Euro agencies have become nothing more than Europe's leftovers. I think I'm done mongering in Chicago.

Ron M
08-17-19, 07:41
Weird. She thought I was a cop and asked me to swear I was not. I'll add Domenica was a Russian hag with a very business like attitude. I asked for half my money back since nothing happened, she said no and I left.

The Euro agencies have become nothing more than Europe's leftovers. I think I'm done mongering in Chicago.As knowledgeable as you are you pay upfront?

Riina
08-17-19, 12:50
As knowledgeable as you are you pay upfront?Admittedly, I was kicking myself afterwards knowing I had sized up the situation in the first 15 seconds.

Ron M
08-17-19, 13:15
Admittedly, I was kicking myself afterwards knowing I had sized up the situation in the first 15 seconds.After the first time I was shorted on time I never ever pay upfront.

Aman123
08-19-19, 17:11
What are the current ng ads?

TJGeek
08-20-19, 07:06
What are the current ng ads?NG as we knew them seem to be gone.

Karina is still around: https://harlothub.com/united-states/illinois/chicago/female-escorts/224-829-5687-223746.html.

There were a few others (Marta / Maya, Sandra, one more) but I can't find the ads so I think they left.

TJGeek
08-20-19, 07:33
What are the current ng ads?Kamila, another NG who has been reviewed: https://chicago.rubratings.com/149350.

TJGeek
08-21-19, 12:45
Saw her a few weeks ago, a wonderful Polish MILF (PMILF? - nah, too much of a mouthful, like her breasts!

https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-super-hot-mia-buffalo-grove-30912

Very nice enhanced breasts (but not over done) with a sweet body (minimal baby damage) who was very willing to have fun. CBJ, kissing, CFS in a few positions and not rushed.

She is available a few times a month mid-day. Worth meeting at least once.

Lukkylou
08-21-19, 16:02
Saw this young lady a couple of weeks ago for the half hour massage and upgraded to FS for 200 total. I just needed to empty out inside a young cutie really bad. I had never met her before but when I walked in I loved her cute face and smile. Reminded me of Lithuanian-American Ivanka from one of the agencies from years back that I loved seeing.

Lena's body is a bit soft and frumpy, probably from too much boozing and fast food. Covered BJ for a few minutes but I had to get her on her back so I could get the crave out of my system. I went at her fast and hard for a long time, causing me to break into a sloppy sweat, and I got it all out. She's entirely broken in and can take the pounding no problem. I loved that she giggled and rubbed my shoulders and head after I came and while I kept my cock deep inside her. I was definitely satisfied but 200 for a quickie is not a bargain especially since she's more like a 6. 5 and no longer an 8 on the hottie scale.

I'm really tempted to see one of the new NG euros, but I'm really in the market for some young white snatch not an old *****. Any suggestions?

TJGeek
08-21-19, 16:16
Saw this young lady a couple of weeks ago for the half hour massage and upgraded to FS for 200 total. I just needed to empty out inside a young cutie really bad. I had never met her before but when I walked in I loved her cute face and smile. Reminded me of Lithuanian-American Ivanka from one of the agencies from years back that I loved seeing.

Lena's body is a bit soft and frumpy, probably from too much boozing and fast food. Covered BJ for a few minutes but I had to get her on her back so I could get the crave out of my system. I went at her fast and hard for a long time, causing me to break into a sloppy sweat, and I got it all out. She's entirely broken in and can take the pounding no problem. I loved that she giggled and rubbed my shoulders and head after I came and while I kept my cock deep inside her. I was definitely satisfied but 200 for a quickie is not a bargain especially since she's more like a 6. 5 and no longer an 8 on the hottie scale.

I'm really tempted to see one of the new NG euros, but I'm really in the market for some young white snatch not an old *****. Any suggestions?The only new NG is https://www.yesbackpage.de/105/posts/8-Adult/122-Female-Escorts/1452858--Beautiful-European-Carmen-I-will-provide-unforgettable-erotic-time.html and she sounded older when I talked with her but she has not been checked out yet. I may see her today. If you want young, see Nataly at 262 - tall, thin, model-like hot body. Only problem is a higher price. But she was much better with me than Lena.

GeorgeMax
08-21-19, 17:02
Congrats of finding a fun little plaything. Really nice description.

Many of us are lurkers and periodic posters. The abbreviations drive me. Could you either post an accurate link or pm me a link or tell what agency 262 is or their web address.

Thanks for understanding.

Saw this young lady a couple of weeks ago for the half hour massage and upgraded to FS for 200 total. I just needed to empty out inside a young cutie really bad. I had never met her before but when I walked in I loved her cute face and smile. Reminded me of Lithuanian-American Ivanka from one of the agencies from years back that I loved seeing.

Lena's body is a bit soft and frumpy, probably from too much boozing and fast food. Covered BJ for a few minutes but I had to get her on her back so I could get the crave out of my system. I went at her fast and hard for a long time, causing me to break into a sloppy sweat, and I got it all out. She's entirely broken in and can take the pounding no problem. I loved that she giggled and rubbed my shoulders and head after I came and while I kept my cock deep inside her. I was definitely satisfied but 200 for a quickie is not a bargain especially since she's more like a 6. 5 and no longer an 8 on the hottie scale.

I'm really tempted to see one of the new NG euros, but I'm really in the market for some young white snatch not an old Any suggestions?

Riina
08-21-19, 19:24
Saw this young lady a couple of weeks ago for the half hour massage and upgraded to FS for 200 total. I just needed to empty out inside a young cutie really bad. I had never met her before but when I walked in I loved her cute face and smile. Reminded me of Lithuanian-American Ivanka from one of the agencies from years back that I loved seeing.

Lena's body is a bit soft and frumpy, probably from too much boozing and fast food. Covered BJ for a few minutes but I had to get her on her back so I could get the crave out of my system. I went at her fast and hard for a long time, causing me to break into a sloppy sweat, and I got it all out. She's entirely broken in and can take the pounding no problem. I loved that she giggled and rubbed my shoulders and head after I came and while I kept my cock deep inside her. I was definitely satisfied but 200 for a quickie is not a bargain especially since she's more like a 6. 5 and no longer an 8 on the hottie scale.

I'm really tempted to see one of the new NG euros, but I'm really in the market for some young white snatch not an old *****. Any suggestions?https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-young-vip-hot-lena-northbrook-30652

Lena is a fun girl with a nice personality. She needs to lose a few.

TJGeek
08-21-19, 20:39
Congrats of finding a fun little plaything. Really nice description.

Many of us are lurkers and periodic posters. The abbreviations drive me. Could you either post an accurate link or pm me a link or tell what agency 262 is or their web address.

Thanks for understanding.

Saw this young lady a couple of weeks ago for the half hour massage and upgraded to FS for 200 total. I just needed to empty out inside a young cutie really bad. I had never met her before but when I walked in I loved her cute face and smile. Reminded me of Lithuanian-American Ivanka from one of the agencies from years back that I loved seeing.

Lena's body is a bit soft and frumpy, probably from too much boozing and fast food. Covered BJ for a few minutes but I had to get her on her back so I could get the crave out of my system. I went at her fast and hard for a long time, causing me to break into a sloppy sweat, and I got it all out. She's entirely broken in and can take the pounding no problem. I loved that she giggled and rubbed my shoulders and head after I came and while I kept my cock deep inside her. I was definitely satisfied but 200 for a quickie is not a bargain especially since she's more like a 6. 5 and no longer an 8 on the hottie scale.

I'm really tempted to see one of the new NG euros, but I'm really in the market for some young white snatch not an old Any suggestions?Yes, the abbreviations can be confusing but the forum does explain it from time to time.

In these cases, the numbers refer to the area code of the agency phone number.

2x2 https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/models.

5x0 http://www.vipbodyslide.com/.

7x3 https://twitter.com/europeanmassag2.

Lukkylou
08-21-19, 22:03
The only new NG is https://www.yesbackpage.de/105/posts/8-Adult/122-Female-Escorts/1452858--Beautiful-European-Carmen-I-will-provide-unforgettable-erotic-time.html and she sounded older when I talked with her but she has not been checked out yet. I may see her today. If you want young, see Nataly at 262 - tall, thin, model-like hot body. Only problem is a higher price. But she was much better with me than Lena.I saw her when she was using another name and only offering oral. I reviewed her previously and she's definitely cute but I don't think she's worth the rates 262 has listed.

TJGeek
08-22-19, 00:33
Saw Vita this morning, fun times!

https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-hotthin-vita-niles-37067

Late 20's Kazakh lady, thin (but with some baby changes) and exotic Asian face. Limited English but not a problem as she was able to communicate what she wants and what she can do!

Started with a gentle yet most pleasing BBBJ with particular attention to the often neglected shaft and ball sack. That alone was worth the visit. As she was preparing for CFS, she was kind enough to inform me that she likes anal. I only took the 30 min option as I was in hurry to get to work but would have taken her up on the trip to Greece if I had the 60 min deal, perhaps next time. So after going around in a few positions, I let loose after making her cum. We both enjoyed it and totally unrushed.

Overall, 262 is providing a good level of staff with reliable services (see my other posts).

Layne123
08-22-19, 11:10
Saw Vita this morning, fun times!

https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-hotthin-vita-niles-37067

Late 20's Kazakh lady, thin (but with some baby changes) and exotic Asian face. Limited English but not a problem as she was able to communicate what she wants and what she can do!

Started with a gentle yet most pleasing BBBJ with particular attention to the often neglected shaft and ball sack. That alone was worth the visit. As she was preparing for CFS, she was kind enough to inform me that she likes anal. I only took the 30 min option as I was in hurry to get to work but would have taken her up on the trip to Greece if I had the 60 min deal, perhaps next time. So after going around in a few positions, I let loose after making her cum. We both enjoyed it and totally unrushed.

Overall, 262 is providing a good level of staff with reliable services (see my other posts).It's always hit or miss for me. Always. Rarely worth my time or money. Only one that has been consistent is Ilona.

That said, what was the baby damage? Saggy tits? Scars? Did you get any info regarding the up charge for Greek service?

Thanks.

Thanks.

TJGeek
08-22-19, 11:27
It's always hit or miss for me. Always. Rarely worth my time or money. Only one that has been consistent is Ilona.

That said, what was the baby damage? Saggy tits? Scars? Did you get any info regarding the up charge for Greek service?

Thanks.

Thanks.Yes, the "hit or miss" factor is real as I think it depends on each girls mood, energy level, etc. I saw an NG once and the experience was OK, saw her a few months later with 530 and we rocked it for an hour!

As for Vita, yes saggy tits and some saggy tummy skin. I didn't ask but when she said she likes anal, she did not qualify it with "for an extra $.), so it may be an all inclusive.

Riina
08-22-19, 12:05
Saw Vita this morning, fun times!
TJGreek, you have become a real asset to the forum. I plan to follow up this lead with Vita.

TJGeek
08-22-19, 13:16
TJGreek, you have become a real asset to the forum. I plan to follow up this lead with Vita.Let me know what you think. I've given up on 530 for now as the price gouging is too much. I'm hoping to see the one of the 2 new NG by the lake next week.

Riina
08-23-19, 09:00
I've given up on 530 for now as the price gouging is too much.The sharky attitude of the 530 girls has really turned me off. I think the last girl I met at 262 was actually a 530 girl shared by the bookers. Even when I try to avoid 530, they still manage to lighten my wallet.

ErvsBlues
08-23-19, 09:45
With the 530 and 262 girls becoming less of an option recently, I decided to give 773 a try again. For a while I'd been interested in seeing Margo. She'd had some great reviews in the past, but it seemed like there were a couple of recent less favorable reviews. Decided to see her and wasn't disappointed. Sweet girl, cute. Pics are her. Nice incall at an apartment in Melrose Park (the rest of the 773 girls all seem to be in motels). Nice massage with teasing, great BBBJ, lots of mutual touch. Didn't partake of any extras this time, but they're available. Will definitely revisit.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/123746

Riina
08-26-19, 09:50
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-vip-model-nataly-northbrook-30870

https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-young-vip-hot-lena-northbrook-30652

If I could have a threesome, I would pick Nataly and Lena. Nataly is an incredible cock sucker, but not so good at fucking. Lena could spread eagle and take on a football team, but she can't suck dick. Both girls are young and will eat pussy.

Gregu696
08-26-19, 23:27
How Do you guys get verify with 262? By sending an I'd or how? Little affraid to send them all the info. They said they will delete it but I'm not 100 sure if they will.

Riina
08-28-19, 08:47
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/models

Quite the harem forming at 262. I'd TOFTT, but I'll probably just wait for a review after my last disappointment.

JDamascus
08-28-19, 11:15
https://www.adultlook.com/p/3078602

Thinking of taking the plunge. Anyone see her yet?

Riina
08-29-19, 08:47
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/pageid-986269

262 is offering a $300 referral fee for finding a girl. For $1000 I'd go out there and steal some girls. LOL.

Riina
08-29-19, 10:52
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-pretty-beautiful--eva-33495

Eva is back with the 262 agency. I really liked this girl, but stopped seeing her when she found a boyfriend. Girls are only half as passionate when they fuck everyday with a lover. Maybe she broke up and I can exploit the situation.

ChitwnGuy10
08-29-19, 11:02
https://www.adultlook.com/p/3078602

Thinking of taking the plunge. Anyone see her yet?Google image search shows pics are fake. Looks TGTBT.

TJGeek
08-29-19, 11:03
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-pretty-beautiful--eva-33495

Eva is back with the 262 agency. I really liked this girl, but stopped seeing her when she found a boyfriend. Girls are only half as passionate when they fuck everyday with a lover. Maybe she broke up and I can exploit the situation.She was on my "to do" list last time she was active. I would love to see her if pictures are accurate. Can you PM some details about her?

Member #6125
08-29-19, 15:35
She was on my "to do" list last time she was active. I would love to see her if pictures are accurate. Can you PM some details about her?Please let me know if she's worth it as well. Looks amazing in the pictures. I've had Nataly before and she was great.

Riina
08-30-19, 09:42
She was on my "to do" list last time she was active. I would love to see her if pictures are accurate. Can you PM some details about her?https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-pretty-beautiful--eva-33495

Photos are accurate, but with a few tats. Standardized service with CBJ, YMMV. I was Eva's first customer and she was clearly excited to fuck with a stranger for money.

Lukkylou
09-01-19, 21:27
Please let me know if she's worth it as well. Looks amazing in the pictures. I've had Nataly before and she was great.Saw her recently and wasn't impressed enough to give up 250 for the fuck. She's not petite at all like the pics, at least not anymore. She's cutie and sexy but when I saw her she was sticky and had some BO for sure. Like come on, wash up some babe. Ass and thighs are getting thick and she kept saying "I know" whenever I tried to complement her. 150 for a covered BJ? It was very good, but I probably won't repeat.

TJGeek
09-01-19, 23:13
Saw her recently and wasn't impressed enough to give up 250 for the fuck. She's not petite at all like the pics, at least not anymore. She's cutie and sexy but when I saw her she was sticky and had some BO for sure. Like come on, wash up some babe. Ass and thighs are getting thick and she kept saying "I know" whenever I tried to complement her. 150 for a covered BJ? It was very good, but I probably won't repeat.Thank you! I will allocate my resources elsewhere and report on back.

Citybird
09-01-19, 23:39
Had a dream with Gia in River east, can confirm that she is real and was overall good couple of visits. Would repeat if I wasn't interested in trying out other providers.

TJGeek
09-02-19, 09:55
Had a dream with Gia in River east, can confirm that she is real and was overall good couple of visits. Would repeat if I wasn't interested in trying out other providers.Do you have a link for Gia?

Datsurman
09-02-19, 13:42
Anyone from this service offer rimming?


With the 530 and 262 girls becoming less of an option recently, I decided to give 773 a try again. For a while I'd been interested in seeing Margo. She'd had some great reviews in the past, but it seemed like there were a couple of recent less favorable reviews. Decided to see her and wasn't disappointed. Sweet girl, cute. Pics are her. Nice incall at an apartment in Melrose Park (the rest of the 773 girls all seem to be in motels). Nice massage with teasing, great BBBJ, lots of mutual touch. Didn't partake of any extras this time, but they're available. Will definitely revisit.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/123746

ApplePiePussy
09-02-19, 14:24
Saw her recently and wasn't impressed enough to give up 250 for the fuck. She's not petite at all like the pics, at least not anymore. She's cutie and sexy but when I saw her she was sticky and had some BO for sure. Like come on, wash up some babe. Ass and thighs are getting thick and she kept saying "I know" whenever I tried to complement her. 150 for a covered BJ? It was very good, but I probably won't repeat.These are the most valuable posts because it prevents the disappointment of others. Appreciate you telling it how it is. The euro motel massage market is currently in a state of depression. The agencies have abandoned their original business models for the C level talent upcharge escort market. It was attractive girls offering body rubs and BJs that made them what they are. They've completely diverged from that.

Citybird
09-04-19, 04:32
Do you have a link for Gia?https://chicago.rubratings.com/140017

I think she's here till the 9th. I would recommend the Nuru.

Selforen11
09-06-19, 20:06
I had a great visit with Nataly yesterday. I am sticking with her until someone dethrones her as the best value in Chicagoland. She is enthusiastic, her body is gorgeous and she treats me like a king. Best BBBJ in town. Very tasty coochie too.

TJGeek
09-11-19, 12:56
Saw her today. Similar deal to NG.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/marika-escort-chicago-253290#erotic.

https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/7735109806

https://www.yesbackpage.de/105/posts/8-Adult/122-Female-Escorts/1450714--Sweet-European-Model-Marika-O-Hare-.html

https://chicago.rubratings.com/150335

Pictures are not of her, but doesn't matter because they are close enough. The picture below may be her. Cute, thin with nice B cups and very pleasant. Had a fun 30 min (wish I did the 1 hr). CBJ (extra for BBJ), CFS but no FIV or kissing (at least on this time). Will see her again. Staying another month and has friend in same location but no to 2 on 1.

Riina
09-12-19, 09:40
Saw her today. Similar deal to NG.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/marika-escort-chicago-253290#erotic.

https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/7735109806

https://www.yesbackpage.de/105/posts/8-Adult/122-Female-Escorts/1450714--Sweet-European-Model-Marika-O-Hare-.html

https://chicago.rubratings.com/150335

Pictures are not of her, but doesn't matter because they are close enough. The picture below may be her. Cute, thin with nice B cups and very pleasant. Had a fun 30 min (wish I did the 1 hr). CBJ (extra for BBJ), CFS but no FIV or kissing (at least on this time). Will see her again. Staying another month and has friend in same location but no to 2 on 1.This sounds good. I'll try to meet her today.

Off topic, I hope more NG type Polish girls start working out of the hotels in the Northern burbs without bookers. That would bring real value to the scene. They're basically immune to LEO as tourists.

Riina
09-16-19, 10:32
https://chicago.rubratings.com/150475

DynoJr
09-16-19, 11:39
Saw her today. Similar deal to NG.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/marika-escort-chicago-253290#erotic.

https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/7735109806

https://www.yesbackpage.de/105/posts/8-Adult/122-Female-Escorts/1450714--Sweet-European-Model-Marika-O-Hare-.html

https://chicago.rubratings.com/150335

Pictures are not of her, but doesn't matter because they are close enough. The picture below may be her. Cute, thin with nice B cups and very pleasant. Had a fun 30 min (wish I did the 1 hr). CBJ (extra for BBJ), CFS but no FIV or kissing (at least on this time). Will see her again. Staying another month and has friend in same location but no to 2 on 1.Thanks TJ, is she in the new Lakeview location or over near the old NG location? It says in one ad Ohare but "downtown" in the other.

ChitwnGuy10
09-16-19, 12:17
Thanks TJ, is she in the new Lakeview location or over near the old NG location? It says in one ad Ohare but "downtown" in the other.I saw her last week in Schiller Park near O'Hare.

ChitwnGuy10
09-16-19, 12:28
https://chicago.rubratings.com/150475She is traveling with Marika. I asked her about Natali and she said "she is nice but bigger than me. " As you know, Marika is thin so a little bigger could be pretty nice as well! I might go see her this week and will report if I do.

Lukkylou
09-16-19, 12:51
I saw her last week in Schiller Park near O'Hare.About how old do you think she is? Thanks.

TJGeek
09-16-19, 23:46
Thanks TJ, is she in the new Lakeview location or over near the old NG location? It says in one ad Ohare but "downtown" in the other.I saw her at a hotel just outside the northwest corner of O'Hare.

Let us know it goes.

TheSauce
09-17-19, 15:51
Anyone from this service offer rimming?New in town and would appreciate if you can share the website for this agency. Thank you.

Lukkylou
09-17-19, 18:40
https://chicago.rubratings.com/150475Eh. Don't think you'll care for her. She's the definition of what you've called an old euro pro. She reminded me of a broken in baseball glove. After multiple failed attempts at trying to see marika, I settled for Natalia after she answered her phone. 200 one hour, 160 half. I jumped at this pricing expecting a satisfying time. Got to the dump of a motel room and found a frumpy 34-40 year old hag with braces. She had a form fitting summer dress and I was busting at the seams so I went for the half. Pro sucking and licking of the boys and staff. Very good. Terrible CG, but took the pounding on her back well until I emptied out. Cleaned up and got a decent back rub until time was up. Won't repeat and am just about done with the euros. May have to give SA one last attempt at finding a couple of new, petite cuties to keep around for a while. I really miss the craigslist days when an 18-20 year old doll could be found for a 100 quickie. A new one every week or two.

ChitwnGuy10
09-18-19, 07:29
About how old do you think she is? Thanks.I would say 30-35.

Riina
09-18-19, 17:28
Saw her today. Similar deal to NG.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/marika-escort-chicago-253290#erotic.

https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/7735109806

https://www.yesbackpage.de/105/posts/8-Adult/122-Female-Escorts/1450714--Sweet-European-Model-Marika-O-Hare-.html

https://chicago.rubratings.com/150335

Pictures are not of her, but doesn't matter because they are close enough. The picture below may be her. Cute, thin with nice B cups and very pleasant. Had a fun 30 min (wish I did the 1 hr). CBJ (extra for BBJ), CFS but no FIV or kissing (at least on this time). Will see her again. Staying another month and has friend in same location but no to 2 on 1.https://www.ecechicago.com/model-details/chicago-escorts-blanca

I think the same girl.

Riina
09-19-19, 08:44
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-young-new-amazing-marika-38917

262 has a new girl today. I'll try to work up the courage to TOFTT. Hopefully I will not get robbed by a mercenary like the last time.

Bbb1617
09-19-19, 12:01
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-young-new-amazing-marika-38917

262 has a new girl today. I'll try to work up the courage to TOFTT. Hopefully I will not get robbed by a mercenary like the last time.Its Funny how in the last few days total of 3 gals named Marika popped out. Is there agenda behind it? But hey let us know how it went, I might have to go thru all of them soon.

Riina
09-19-19, 14:05
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-young-new-amazing-marika-38917

262 has a new girl today. I'll try to work up the courage to TOFTT. Hopefully I will not get robbed by a mercenary like the last time.Maria is a hot young Ukrainian. Reminds me of the escort love of my life Inessa. Only issue is that she doesn't speak English. Good thing I speak basic Russian. Service was CBJ and DATY. I will repeat.

Riina
09-20-19, 14:47
Maria is a hot young Ukrainian. Reminds me of the escort love of my life Inessa. Only issue is that she doesn't speak English. Good thing I speak basic Russian. Service was CBJ and DATY. I will repeat.I had a nail in my pants all night long thinking about Marika. I asked the booker if FS will be an option. She said i think so.

The thing that left me unsatisfied about the session was that I could not properly share how big of a perv I was in Ukraine. They love to hear that shit. I had one get so hot that she jumped on me raw.

Bbb1617
09-24-19, 17:43
Saw her today. Similar deal to NG.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/marika-escort-chicago-253290#erotic.

https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/7735109806

https://www.yesbackpage.de/105/posts/8-Adult/122-Female-Escorts/1450714--Sweet-European-Model-Marika-O-Hare-.html

https://chicago.rubratings.com/150335

Pictures are not of her, but doesn't matter because they are close enough. The picture below may be her. Cute, thin with nice B cups and very pleasant. Had a fun 30 min (wish I did the 1 hr). CBJ (extra for BBJ), CFS but no FIV or kissing (at least on this time). Will see her again. Staying another month and has friend in same location but no to 2 on 1.I dreamed of her today and it was in ElkG. Vlg. I had a great time and I left a happy man. In my dream she was very open minded and it was not much that she won't do. I will repeat and recomend. Thank you TJ for sharing.

Vanilla Lover
09-24-19, 17:44
I dreamed of her today and it was in ElkG. Vlg. I had a great time and I left a happy man. In my dream she was very open minded and it was not much that she won't do. I will repeat and recomend. Thank you TJ for sharing.What was the damage?

Bbb1617
09-24-19, 23:11
What was the damage?I suspect that this gal is NG and damage was hourly $$.

Lukkylou
09-26-19, 17:25
I dreamed of her today and it was in ElkG. Vlg. I had a great time and I left a happy man. In my dream she was very open minded and it was not much that she won't do. I will repeat and recomend. Thank you TJ for sharing.Does she have a cute face? I like the petite body, but haven't been able to get a response from her. About to give up and try the other batch of euros that have popped up.

TJGeek
09-27-19, 07:05
Does she have a cute face? I like the petite body, but haven't been able to get a response from her. About to give up and try the other batch of euros that have popped up.I found her face attractive, but I have a thing for Eastern Europeans. I would like to see her again before she leaves.

Bbb1617
09-27-19, 10:04
Does she have a cute face? I like the petite body, but haven't been able to get a response from her. About to give up and try the other batch of euros that have popped up.I think she is cute. Most of the Euros are cute IMHO.

Safado55
09-27-19, 15:46
https://chicago.rubratings.com/124748

I had been waiting a long time based on the photos....Finally, I had an appointment with this one.

From the moment I walked in the room.

Her head was on fire. Even before I entered, She was bitching out her handler in an apparent.

Eastern Euro language.

I walked in 8 minutes late, due to some traffic issues. The handler had been alerted.

She started with a bad attitude and although I tried to be cool and diffuse.

The situation, she just became more enraged. In a minute, I had decided to just leave as

I had not yet paid her. She almost simultaneously asked me to leave.
I wasted no more time. I happily left.

Needless to say, I was a little confused as to what this was all about, I didn't worry about it for too long.
I texted the handler and he/she apologized. Good on them.

Fortunately a quick call and another provider was available nearby.

Different service.

She is definitely not the person in the photos. In the end, I'm glad she was in a pissy mood.

Gentlemen, I'd pass on this one.

TJGeek
10-01-19, 18:14
May have posted on her before but just saw her again.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/123542

As with all 773 ladies, not the girl in the picture but nice body & perky B cups. Had a brief CBJ then long CFS during the HHr option (160 + 80 tip).

TJGeek
10-02-19, 16:09
Saw Jessie.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/152381

https://escortindex.com/ad/chicago/773-786-7855/1/4664064

Same as the other NG2 deal on Irving Park Rd by the lake front. She was her in January (Karina) and the pictures below are her real ones.

Not a bad experience, but not great. Brief CBJ during which I explored her and she was hot and wet. I assumed this would go on for a while but she quickly jumped on me for CG and then mish (with a short DATY in between, she may have been too sensitive) until we both exploded.

She is cute and has a great body with enlarged but soft breasts.

Bbb1617
10-02-19, 16:10
Anita is not 23 and pics are not her. Her rear is bigger and not as good as in pictures, When I saw her at first I decided to stay with standard service and it was great, CBJ was spot on and I almost lost it in a few occasions, but every time I was close she would stop and kept asking me if I wanted to upgrade. Of course at the end I said fuck it lets go, but than she would ask for $ upfront and wouldn't budge, by the time I am back Jr is South. Another try with CBJ and off to doggy and than MISH. She breads in my face and a smell of rotten tooth hits me. I knew I was done and there was no coming back. One thing that bothered me is that she was great until she collected the upgrade charge and then she didn't care much, she closed her eyes and might even took a nap.

Quality was not there and pics were way different than reality. As always YMMV.

TJGeek
10-02-19, 16:13
Sorry, couldn't upload the pictures in my last post.

TJGeek
10-02-19, 16:14
Anita is not 23 and pics are not her. Her rear is bigger and not as good as in pictures, When I saw her at first I decided to stay with standard service and it was great, CBJ was spot on and I almost lost it in a few occasions, but every time I was close she would stop and kept asking me if I wanted to upgrade. Of course at the end I said fuck it lets go, but than she would ask for $ upfront and wouldn't budge, by the time I am back Jr is South. Another try with CBJ and off to doggy and than MISH. She breads in my face and a smell of rotten tooth hits me. I knew I was done and there was no coming back. One thing that bothered me is that she was great until she collected the upgrade charge and then she didn't care much, she closed her eyes and might even took a nap.

Quality was not there and pics were way different than reality. As always YMMV.Thanks for the report. She was on my "to do" list but not any more. Anyone have info on 262 Alice or Nadia?

Lukkylou
10-02-19, 16:26
I found her face attractive, but I have a thing for Eastern Europeans. I would like to see her again before she leaves.I don't know if this is the same girl you saw, but the hag I saw SOUNDED like a hag on the phone and I should have not seen her just on voice alone. Saw her in a dump of a motel. The entire unit gave me the creeps and I couldn't wait to shower when I got home. The broad herself was half a nightmare. Slim but crackhead slim, no tone at all. Looked and sounded about 50. I'm talking bottom of the barrel in terms of euro ******. 150 for the half hour for BBBJ and CG. Needed the release, but the biggest buyers remorse in a LONG time. I'm seriously DONE with the euro girl bargain hunting. Nothing but wasted cash.

Vanilla Lover
10-02-19, 21:39
Saw Jessie.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/152381

https://escortindex.com/ad/chicago/773-786-7855/1/4664064

Same as the other NG2 deal on Irving Park Rd by the lake front. She was her in January (Karina) and the pictures below are her real ones.

Not a bad experience, but not great. Brief CBJ during which I explored her and she was hot and wet. I assumed this would go on for a while but she quickly jumped on me for CG and then mish (with a short DATY in between, she may have been too sensitive) until we both exploded.

She is cute and has a great body with enlarged but soft breasts.I remember her. I was her very first customer in her first visit. She's pretty tight and pretty hot.

She does need direction though but man, was it nice to hold her as she's a spinner!

Can't wait to see her again!

What was the damage??

TJGeek
10-02-19, 23:43
I remember her. I was her very first customer in her first visit. She's pretty tight and pretty hot.

She does need direction though but man, was it nice to hold her as she's a spinner!

Can't wait to see her again!

What was the damage??250 for Hr, didn't ask about HHr.

Riina
10-03-19, 13:47
https://chicago.rubratings.com/122116

Anybody know if Angela is delivering a BJ for the initial donation. She told me she was a good girl and did not do that. I told her she was steeling my money. I was then asked to leave.

ChitwnGuy10
10-03-19, 15:30
https://chicago.rubratings.com/122116

Anybody know if Angela is delivering a BJ for the initial donation. She told me she was a good girl and did not do that. I told her she was steeling my money. I was then asked to leave.I tried her a while back and was only offered a HJ.

TJGeek
10-07-19, 06:52
Another former NG (Karolina) now at 530.

https://www.vipbodyslide.com/model-hot-marcelina-35466

Saw her last year when NG and had a good time. I recall overall favorable reviews. However, now that she is with 530, you have to deal with the BS pricing.

Riina
10-07-19, 11:23
Another former NG (Karolina) now at 530.

https://www.vipbodyslide.com/model-hot-marcelina-35466

Saw her last year when NG and had a good time. I recall overall favorable reviews. However, now that she is with 530, you have to deal with the BS pricing.Karolina was my NG favorite. Nova is back too, probably her travel partner.

Off topic, but Poland is joining the visa waiver program. We should be seeing more Polish hookers in the near future. Someone needs to give these girls some direction as to setting up the old NG model.

Pupsnu
10-07-19, 18:18
Any idea on the damage with her at 530?


Another former NG (Karolina) now at 530.

https://www.vipbodyslide.com/model-hot-marcelina-35466

Saw her last year when NG and had a good time. I recall overall favorable reviews. However, now that she is with 530, you have to deal with the BS pricing.

Smdiw81
10-08-19, 06:52
Any idea on the damage with her at 530?$250 for half hour last time she was here with 530.

Flipper12
10-08-19, 21:06
Karolina was my NG favorite. Nova is back too, probably her travel partner.

Off topic, but Poland is joining the visa waiver program. We should be seeing more Polish hookers in the near future. Someone needs to give these girls some direction as to setting up the old NG model.I usually do the 45 minute. With "marcelina" I got CBJ and FS for $280 for 45 minutes. Any insight on Nova would be appreciated.

TJGeek
10-08-19, 22:37
I usually do the 45 minute. With "marcelina" I got CBJ and FS for $280 for 45 minutes. Any insight on Nova would be appreciated.I saw Nova last time she was hear. Got FS for 250 or 300. No haggling as I recall.

Pupsnu
10-10-19, 08:23
Thanks! Quiet a price jump from the time she was with NG. NG was an amazing value when they had great girls.


$250 for half hour last time she was here with 530.

ChicagoGom
10-10-19, 11:43
Thanks! Quiet a price jump from the time she was with NG. NG was an amazing value when they had great girls.What's the website for NG?

TJGeek
10-10-19, 15:17
What's the website for NG?NG does not have a website and they don't really have a name (NG = Norridge Girls where they were once based). Rather, it is a group of Polish ladies who visit for 1 to 2 months and have locations throughout Chicago that change every now and then. They can be identified by their similar style of pictures. But, there was a recent rift in the group so we may be on NG version 2. 0.

The original NG had fairly real pictures (some editing) and gave a good time for 200/ hr. Not the pictures are less accurate and price has gone up.

These 2 may be NG based on the style of the advertising.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/149893 and https://chicago.rubratings.com/151970.

Also a few of them may have broken off and stayed on their own.

https://www.yesbackpage.de/105/posts/8-Adult/122-Female-Escorts/1476561--KARINA-POLISH-BACK-IN-TOWN-.html

https://www.yesbackpage.de/105/posts/8-Adult/122-Female-Escorts/1450131--Kamila-new-in-town-.html

Some jumped to 530.

https://www.vipbodyslide.com/model-hot-vip-marcelina-35466

Ale1832
10-11-19, 21:21
Has anyone seen Giselle in Naperville? She looks incredible.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/153007

TJGeek
10-12-19, 06:20
Has anyone seen Giselle in Naperville? She looks incredible.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/153007I have not seen her but reviews on this forum are good. Search the posts for details and costs. It seems she is also Nicole with https://www.chicagolandmassage.net/.

ManTooth
10-12-19, 07:16
NG does not have a website and they don't really have a name (NG = Norridge Girls where they were once based). Rather, it is a group of Polish ladies who visit for 1 to 2 months and have locations throughout Chicago that change every now and then. They can be identified by their similar style of pictures. But, there was a recent rift in the group so we may be on NG version 2. 0.

The original NG had fairly real pictures (some editing) and gave a good time for 200/ hr. Not the pictures are less accurate and price has gone up.

These 2 may be NG based on the style of the advertising.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/149893 and https://chicago.rubratings.com/151970.

Also a few of them may have broken off and stayed on their own.Tried the NG had Anna, I think. Phone call led me to an walk up apartment building. Up the stairs and as I was approaching the screen door I noticed she's getting a snapshot of me. Weird? Conversation was polite the action was great and did I mention the lady was a tall brunette that made me thankful for the miracles that modern medicine can afford me.

Gary Man
10-12-19, 07:45
Has anyone seen Giselle in Naperville? She looks incredible.https://chicago.rubratings.com/153007Yes, she's been talked about and recently. Thumbs up. Do a search. (I can't remember if it was this thread though.) She's Nicole at https://www.chicagolandmassage.net/.

Ale1832
10-12-19, 11:46
Yes, she's been talked about and recently. Thumbs up. Do a search. (I can't remember if it was this thread though.) She's Nicole at https://www.chicagolandmassage.net/.Oh my god I had no idea they were the same! I was thinking of going to both of them. Guess now I won't have to.

Chicago41
10-12-19, 12:08
Yes, she's been talked about and recently. Thumbs up. Do a search. (I can't remember if it was this thread though.) She's Nicole at https://www.chicagolandmassage.net/.I've been wondering if chicagolandmassage was legit. It sounds like they are?

TJGeek
10-12-19, 16:08
Tried the NG had Anna, I think. Phone call led me to an walk up apartment building. Up the stairs and as I was approaching the screen door I noticed she's getting a snapshot of me. Weird? Conversation was polite the action was great and did I mention the lady was a tall brunette that made me thankful for the miracles that modern medicine can afford me.Do you have a link for Anna? Cost, etc?

Ale1832
10-14-19, 20:54
Hey peeps. I recently moved to Chicago and I am looking to reward myself for a personal victory with a nice massage. I'm thinking nuru but I'm not sure. I've had two massages and both have been great and I want to see what else I'm missing. I've narrowed it down to a few girls and I was wondering if you all good potentially help me make the best choice. I do this every so often but rarely enough nd with little enough expendable income that I have to make the ones I do count.

I have in narrowed down between:

Giselle in Naperville (slightly a problem bc Idk how I'll get out there but WOW):

https://chicago.rubratings.com/153007

Gabriella:

https://chicago.rubratings.com/130268

Sophie: (and any info about this place / real pics vs fake would be great. I've searched on here an elsewhere but there seem to be majorly conflicting reports).

https://chicago.rubratings.com/121596

Or Gigii:

https://chicago.rubratings.com/136088

I'm also morbidly curious about anywhere with a milking table but most of them seem really scammy. ANY and all info would be greatly appreciated either in reply or PM:] I've seen two of the more upscale massage girls in town and I'd be happy to offer suggestions or info about them in PM. Thank you!

TJGeek
10-15-19, 00:08
Just talked to them but did not see them.

Julia, was in town a few times with the same name: https://chicago.rubratings.com/153060.

Blanka, I think she is new: https://chicago.rubratings.com/153061.

I highly doubt pictures are real which is disappointing as NG used to be fairly accurate.

Bbb1617
10-15-19, 17:07
https://chicago.rubratings.com/149893

Not the one in the pics but if you disregard the belly fair representation. She is passionate and easy going and it feels like she is enjoying what she does. $. 7 hh $$ h all covered.

I had a nice time and enjoyed my self. On the way out I saw Alexa, She is blond with a cute face and nice bod, a little shorter than Martha I think. From what I see I can tell you that soon I will deliver a review on her too.

Lukkylou
10-15-19, 17:25
https://chicago.rubratings.com/149893

Not the one in the pics but if you disregard the belly fair representation. She is passionate and easy going and it feels like she is enjoying what she does. $. 7 hh $$ h all covered.

I had a nice time and enjoyed my self. On the way out I saw Alexa, She is blond with a cute face and nice bod, a little shorter than Martha I think. From what I see I can tell you that soon I will deliver a review on her too.So is she fat or is it a baby belly? About how old would you put her at?

Vanilla Lover
10-15-19, 17:31
https://chicago.rubratings.com/149893

Not the one in the pics but if you disregard the belly fair representation. She is passionate and easy going and it feels like she is enjoying what she does. $. 7 hh $$ h all covered.

I had a nice time and enjoyed my self. On the way out I saw Alexa, She is blond with a cute face and nice bod, a little shorter than Martha I think. From what I see I can tell you that soon I will deliver a review on her too.You happen to know Alexa's contact info?? I'd be willing to see her.

Is their place, the place described in the earlier posts?

Bbb1617
10-15-19, 17:36
So is she fat or is it a baby belly? About how old would you put her at?Can't tell were she got her belly from but it looks like its just the way her frame is. Lets just say its not a flat tummy. Anyway its not really an issue I just put it out there because I notice it. She is in her early thirties.

Bbb1617
10-15-19, 17:39
You happen to know Alexa's contact info?? I'd be willing to see her.

Is their place, the place described in the earlier posts?Didn't ask for her number but if I think that this might be her ad https://chicago.rubratings.com/151970..

Best bet is to ask Sandra for her info. I don't want to mislead you.

Riina
10-15-19, 17:40
https://chicago.rubratings.com/149893

Not the one in the pics but if you disregard the belly fair representation. She is passionate and easy going and it feels like she is enjoying what she does. $. 7 hh $$ h all covered.

I had a nice time and enjoyed my self. On the way out I saw Alexa, She is blond with a cute face and nice bod, a little shorter than Martha I think. From what I see I can tell you that soon I will deliver a review on her too.https://chicago.rubratings.com/144562

I'm guessing this is Alexa's link. Are they working out of a hotel or apartment? General area?

Bbb1617
10-15-19, 17:45
https://chicago.rubratings.com/144562

I'm guessing this is Alexa's link. Are they working out of a hotel or apartment? General area?Riina this gal looks great but its not the NG Alexa. The one that I saw was not as skinny, I would even dare to say that its on the bigger side, so I think its https://chicago.rubratings.com/151970 this one.

SAnderson75
10-15-19, 17:58
Riina this gal looks great but its not the NG Alexa. The one that I saw was not as skinny, I would even dare to say that its on the bigger side, so I think its https://chicago.rubratings.com/151970 this one.So is NG no longer in Norridge at the Apt?

They are all downtown now?

This Alexa is sexy! I would love to see her at the Apt if the rates are still 60/200.

Last NG I saw was Lara, then it all changed up. Whats the status?

SAnderson75
10-15-19, 18:05
Hey peeps. I recently moved to Chicago and I am looking to reward myself for a personal victory with a nice massage. I'm thinking nuru but I'm not sure. I've had two massages and both have been great and I want to see what else I'm missing. I've narrowed it down to a few girls and I was wondering if you all good potentially help me make the best choice. I do this every so often but rarely enough nd with little enough expendable income that I have to make the ones I do count.

I have in narrowed down between:

Giselle in Naperville (slightly a problem bc Idk how I'll get out there but WOW):

https://chicago.rubratings.com/153007

Gabriella:

https://chicago.rubratings.com/130268

Sophie: (and any info about this place / real pics vs fake would be great. I've searched on here an elsewhere but there seem to be majorly conflicting reports).

https://chicago.rubratings.com/121596

Or Gigii:

https://chicago.rubratings.com/136088

I'm also morbidly curious about anywhere with a milking table but most of them seem really scammy. ANY and all info would be greatly appreciated either in reply or PM:] I've seen two of the more upscale massage girls in town and I'd be happy to offer suggestions or info about them in PM. Thank you!So I have personally seen Giselle. The body is very very real.

Honestly skip the massage and go for the FS, she offers it, but only as an upgrade in person. Bring an extra benjamin for the cost difference.

She is well worth it.

Weestler123
10-16-19, 01:05
Hey peeps. I recently moved to Chicago and I am looking to reward myself for a personal victory with a nice massage. I'm thinking nuru but I'm not sure. I've had two massages and both have been great and I want to see what else I'm missing. I've narrowed it down to a few girls and I was wondering if you all good potentially help me make the best choice. I do this every so often but rarely enough nd with little enough expendable income that I have to make the ones I do count.

I have in narrowed down between:

Giselle in Naperville (slightly a problem bc Idk how I'll get out there but WOW):

https://chicago.rubratings.com/153007

Gabriella:

https://chicago.rubratings.com/130268

Sophie: (and any info about this place / real pics vs fake would be great. I've searched on here an elsewhere but there seem to be majorly conflicting reports).

https://chicago.rubratings.com/121596

Or Gigii:

https://chicago.rubratings.com/136088

I'm also morbidly curious about anywhere with a milking table but most of them seem really scammy. ANY and all info would be greatly appreciated either in reply or PM:] I've seen two of the more upscale massage girls in town and I'd be happy to offer suggestions or info about them in PM. Thank you!Giselle (under the name Nicole) works at the same agency as Sophie. I haven't seen anyone else at the agency, but Nicole / Giselle's pictures are very accurate. I have had nuru with both Gabriella and Nicole. I recommend Nicole and would repeat with her. Gabriella was more of a neutral experience, but YMMV.

Bbb1617
10-16-19, 11:23
So is NG no longer in Norridge at the Apt?

They are all downtown now?

This Alexa is sexy! I would love to see her at the Apt if the rates are still 60/200.

Last NG I saw was Lara, then it all changed up. Whats the status?NG are all around. Seek and you will find them, Rates may vary. TJ Geek posted a very nice guide to some of them and if you just scroll down couple of pages you will find it.

TheBigA1
10-16-19, 11:25
Hey peeps. I recently moved to Chicago and I am looking to reward myself for a personal victory with a nice massage. I'm thinking nuru but I'm not sure. I've had two massages and both have been great and I want to see what else I'm missing. I've narrowed it down to a few girls and I was wondering if you all good potentially help me make the best choice. I do this every so often but rarely enough nd with little enough expendable income that I have to make the ones I do count.

I have in narrowed down between:

Giselle in Naperville (slightly a problem bc Idk how I'll get out there but WOW):

https://chicago.rubratings.com/153007

Gabriella:

https://chicago.rubratings.com/130268

Sophie: (and any info about this place / real pics vs fake would be great. I've searched on here an elsewhere but there seem to be majorly conflicting reports).

https://chicago.rubratings.com/121596

Or Gigii:

https://chicago.rubratings.com/136088

I'm also morbidly curious about anywhere with a milking table but most of them seem really scammy. ANY and all info would be greatly appreciated either in reply or PM:] I've seen two of the more upscale massage girls in town and I'd be happy to offer suggestions or info about them in PM. Thank you!I have visited several of the places you mentioned and here is my take. The pics at Chicagolandmassage are real, but tend to be taken so as to be as flattering as possible. I have seen Nicole, Bella, and Jessica. I have a long history with Jessica so my experience with her may likely not transfer to any new clients. Nicole was great but the upcharges for extras are pricy (up to an extra $200 for FS). Bella was nice but not my cup of tea.

Gabriella is stacked and a lot of fun. I was slightly taken aback because she was wearing an ankle monitor so I won't be going back.

Been to a couple of the milking table places and they are definitely YMMV. For the VIP fee, you can count on CBJ and multiple pops, but the last girl I saw wouldn't take off her bottoms.

Bbb1617
10-16-19, 11:43
530 seems to have new talent today I wish I had time https://www.vipbodyslide.com/model-for-few-days-new--beatriz-39699.

TJGeek
10-20-19, 19:17
So Blanka at Irving Park Rd by the Lake (https://chicago.rubratings.com/153061) is the same as Jessie (https://chicago.rubratings.com/153061), but just changed her pictures, who is the same as Karina from earlier this year at Nagle.

See my post #568 & #566 on this thread for details and real pictures.

Disappointed in the unnecessary changes.

Bbb1617
10-21-19, 11:20
NG Lara seems to be back https://chicago.rubratings.com/153533.

Oramo
10-21-19, 11:43
May have posted on her before but just saw her again.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/123542

As with all 773 ladies, not the girl in the picture but nice body & perky B cups. Had a brief CBJ then long CFS during the HHr option (160 + 80 tip).Regular seen her over last 2 years. Reliable at least. Can do worse for more $.

Chicago41
10-21-19, 22:44
Anyone seen Savannah?

https://tryst.link/escort/savannah-5

Al Bundy78
10-22-19, 08:10
NG Lara seems to be back https://chicago.rubratings.com/153533.Yup, she is back and so is Ola!

Layne123
10-22-19, 17:34
I can't find reviews of Ola (I'm guessing her name is too short for forum search) so I'll put mine here.

Seen her before. Was one of the first if not the first to see her this visit.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/153531

Pix are accurate. Looks younger in person IMO.

Has had some work done which isn't my preference yet easily overlooked because of how awesome she is.

Visit was GFEish with DFK and BBBJ. Took direction well. I love the way she says “doggie”.

Rates were 170/200. YMMV.

An amazing time. She really wanted me to be happy. Highly recommend and I will repeat.

Layne123
10-22-19, 17:42
Has anyone seen Julia (brunette) from NG anywhere?

It seems some NG are rebranding and maybe she's advertising under a different name with different pix too.

Anyone seen her lately?

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/julia-escort-chicago-405513

Oramo
10-22-19, 21:16
Vlada is no longer on the roster.Regular visitor. Can't stay away from her perfect body.

Oramo
10-22-19, 21:21
I saw her at I think 530 when she first started. She did BBBJ for door fee. Basically insisted on it. And was really into it. More was avail yet BBBJ in 69 was more than enough.

Saw her recently as Margo and she was all business. She was still nice and remembered me, yet it was mechanical CBJ for door fee and I didn't ask about any options.She is nut case!! Saw her under other names / agencies. Doesn't ever remember me. The entire session consists of her not knowing why I'm here or what is going on. Frustrating as can be. Stay far away gents.

Oramo
10-22-19, 21:36
Yes, the abbreviations can be confusing but the forum does explain it from time to time.

In these cases, the numbers refer to the area code of the agency phone number.

2x2 https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/models.

5x0 http://www.vipbodyslide.com/.

7x3 https://twitter.com/europeanmassag2.The t*itter account for 7*3 is not updated, scan RR for 3572 to see who is up to bat.

Oramo
10-22-19, 21:47
She's been around a while at chicagolandmassage.

Anyone seen her?

https://chicago.rubratings.com/123502A couple of times, very attractive 30 something, great chest. Natural and perfect bounce. HJ for door fee only. Worth the price of admission.

DirtyGarcia
10-22-19, 21:53
So Blanka at Irving Park Rd by the Lake (https://chicago.rubratings.com/153061) is the same as Jessie (https://chicago.rubratings.com/153061), but just changed her pictures, who is the same as Karina from earlier this year at Nagle.

See my post #568 & #566 on this thread for details and real pictures.

Disappointed in the unnecessary changes.I saw her last week and while she is very pretty the session was blah. Everything covered and felt somewhat rushed. Not much energy in CBJ. Man made puppies. Would not repeat.

Oramo
10-23-19, 02:31
I posted a full report in on he Escorts section, so go there for the full details. I also wanted to make people in this thread aware that Jessica is Marina from the 773 agency. I discovered this yesterday and was very pleasantly surprised.That is excellent info, thanks! Marina was my ATF at 773 for her outstanding head game.

Oramo
10-23-19, 02:35
Hopefully posters will continue to add menu prices to this thread to help us make informed decisions.

Generally $100 upcharge for CFS, yet definitely YMMV. It would be great if booker advertised costs so we knew how much $ to bring.

262 added "escort" to services for girls who provide FS which makes me want to support them.

And unfortunately asking booker sometimes is a bust. I asked if Allison (chicagolandmassage) did FS before visit. Booker said yes. Arrived with my extra $100, and then Allison said $160 upcharge. So yeah. YMMV.Chicagoland booker is out right liar, I asked if CBJ (I guess I was being naive) was included in the door fee. Stupid me believed her. When I arrived and was ready. Surprise not included.

Oramo
10-23-19, 02:58
Seems like the majority of those text exchanges are BS. Not only are the times off, but none of us talk that way.Handler actually used one of my texts. Should collect a royalty fee.

Oramo
10-23-19, 04:13
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-cute-young-rita-35759

I met her today. Very passionate and into the session. DFK and CBJ. She's a plain GND but I was very turned on by her enthusiasm. I think this one loves me, at least it felt that way during my 30 min. I recommend and will repeat.One of the best, honest, pretties ladies at 262. She will be missed big time. IMO the best kitty around.

Oramo
10-23-19, 04:30
Do any of the 773 girls offer DFK?Would not if offered, most are heavy smokers with poor dental history.

Bbb1617
10-23-19, 09:39
https://chicago.rubratings.com/153350

NG Alexa is the one in the pictures. I am always trying to lay down the good and the bad in any of my dreams. That being said, I need to say that there was nothing good in this review. Her breast is really on the small side A cup or maybe a small B Perky but her rear compensate for that, its Huge. She have a big jiggly belly and in my opinion attitude that is coming from the fact that she have so much to say but can't because she speaks native language and she is aggravated because of that fact. So started cool with a shower and all and by the time I am back in the room she is all in a bird suit. Hopped on the bed and she started rubbing jr "PASSIONATELY" with two fingers and closed eyes moaning, I guess she expected to have him ready with meditating. Didn't helped and she grabbed a cover and proceed with a lame BJ. Half way up she ask me to proceed to mish, "I am like WTF". Pumped for like 2 min and I am getting pissed because she insist to keep her hand down there for whatever reason and I really hate this bs, I moved it once than twice and all of the sudden she was making sounds like I was hurting her, like I was to big for her. I was not even hard. I knew that there is no way to finish with this clown and gave up. Forgive me folks but Hard Pass on this one.

Oramo
10-25-19, 02:54
I can't find reviews of Ola (I'm guessing her name is too short for forum search) so I'll put mine here.

Seen her before. Was one of the first if not the first to see her this visit.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/153531

Pix are accurate. Looks younger in person IMO.

Has had some work done which isn't my preference yet easily overlooked because of how awesome she is.

Visit was GFEish with DFK and BBBJ. Took direction well. I love the way she says doggie.

Rates were 170/200. YMMV.

An amazing time. She really wanted me to be happy. Highly recommend and I will repeat.Dreamt of her, reviews are spot on. Emphasize she is younger then the pics. Very positive and warm personality.

Riina
10-25-19, 10:22
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-young-sweet-marika-38917

Marika is now offering an hour of FS for 400. Hot girl, but that's a lot of money.

Riina
10-28-19, 12:11
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-brand-new-young-hot-valerie-39662

New girl today at 262. I'm going to give her a try.

GreatGatsby
10-28-19, 14:09
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-brand-new-young-hot-valerie-39662

New girl today at 262. I'm going to give her a try.How was she?

Riina
10-28-19, 16:10
How was she?She was a Russian pro traveling from another state. Not what I was looking for.

Oramo
10-28-19, 20:54
She was a Russian pro traveling from another state. Not what I was looking for.I saw that as well, the new talent. I considered it, however my memory of being burned once too many times by the very attractive pictures on 262. I appreciate you TOFTT to confirm.

Riina
10-29-19, 11:47
https://chicago.rubratings.com/122117

262 raised the price for rub sessions. Greedy b*.

Riina
10-29-19, 12:12
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-vip-model-nataly-downtown-30870

Looks like Nataly is working downtown today. Hot skinny Ukrainian, she's worth it.

ChicagoGom
10-29-19, 12:28
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-vip-model-nataly-downtown-30870

Looks like Nataly is working downtown today. Hot skinny Ukrainian, she's worth it.Have you tried Vita? If so, is she worth it?

Bbb1617
10-29-19, 12:44
https://chicago.rubratings.com/150335

Another short 1/2 dream I had with her but what a dream. I opted for extended stay and trip to Greece 4 - $$6.

More often I dream of her its becoming more interesting.

Oramo
10-29-19, 12:47
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-vip-model-nataly-downtown-30870

Looks like Nataly is working downtown today. Hot skinny Ukrainian, she's worth it.Yes she is worth it. Have you dreamt of Olga? Like her gnd looks. Good sign of good service.

Oramo
10-29-19, 12:49
https://chicago.rubratings.com/122117

262 raised the price for rub sessions. Greedy b*.I love the 773 rate. Best in town.

Selforen11
10-29-19, 13:55
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-vip-model-nataly-downtown-30870

Looks like Nataly is working downtown today. Hot skinny Ukrainian, she's worth it.If she makes downtown a part of her regular rotation I may need to get a second job. She has a body to die for and gives one of the best BBBJ I have ever experienced.

ChicagoGom
10-29-19, 18:04
If she makes downtown a part of her regular rotation I may need to get a second job. She has a body to die for and gives one of the best BBBJ I have ever experienced.$$3 for an half hour?

Oramo
10-29-19, 21:02
Have you tried Vita? If so, is she worth it?Yes, several times she is very much GFE (BBBJ, dfk, bls, daty), I believe she's gone around end of Nov. I would highly recommend seeing her before she does.

ApplePiePussy
10-29-19, 21:54
$$3 for an half hour?Can we stop with this ridiculous code? It does nothing but confuse people. It does not protect the girls or us. Just fucking write the actual amount.

TJGeek
10-29-19, 23:41
Yes, several times she is very much GFE (BBBJ, dfk, bls, daty), I believe she's gone around end of Nov. I would highly recommend seeing her before she does.I saw Vita a few months ago (may have posted it). Very enthusiastic and full of energy. Thin with some baby damage but was fun the whole time. Told me she likes Greek but I was not ready for it.

Riina
10-30-19, 08:08
Yes, several times she is very much GFE (BBBJ, dfk, bls, daty), I believe she's gone around end of Nov. I would highly recommend seeing her before she does.https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-hot-vip-vita-buffalo-grove-37067

I might try her today. Thanks for sharing.

Safado55
10-30-19, 13:18
I posted this in another area, apparently incorrectly. I received not one reply.

OK, so I've used the Euro Agencies for some time. But I started to wonder about tipping, bc I don't really know if there is a scale or not.

Here is my post.

I'm not exactly new to this, I have seen girls from various Euro agencies (you know who they are).

As well as AMPs and Independents.

My question is, I have kind of lost sight of what the standard tipping rate for Euro Agency Girls is anymore.

I'm just throwing out cash afterwards and I'm not sure if it's toom little or too much.

I almost never see the same girl, so I can't really judge that way.

I'd like to treat them well and fairly without overdoing it.

Please PM with thought and guidelines or Post. Either way the community could benefit from.

Updated info.

Thanks,

Safado.

WalkBob
10-30-19, 14:43
I never tip extra. Tips are included in this industry.


I posted this in another area, apparently incorrectly. I received not one reply.

OK, so I've used the Euro Agencies for some time. But I started to wonder about tipping, bc I don't really know if there is a scale or not.

Here is my post.

I'm not exactly new to this, I have seen girls from various Euro agencies (you know who they are).

As well as AMPs and Independents.

My question is, I have kind of lost sight of what the standard tipping rate for Euro Agency Girls is anymore.

I'm just throwing out cash afterwards and I'm not sure if it's toom little or too much.

I almost never see the same girl, so I can't really judge that way.

I'd like to treat them well and fairly without overdoing it.

Please PM with thought and guidelines or Post. Either way the community could benefit from.

Updated info.

Thanks,

Safado.

TJGeek
10-30-19, 20:28
I posted this in another area, apparently incorrectly. I received not one reply.

OK, so I've used the Euro Agencies for some time. But I started to wonder about tipping, bc I don't really know if there is a scale or not.

Here is my post.

I'm not exactly new to this, I have seen girls from various Euro agencies (you know who they are).

As well as AMPs and Independents.

My question is, I have kind of lost sight of what the standard tipping rate for Euro Agency Girls is anymore.

I'm just throwing out cash afterwards and I'm not sure if it's toom little or too much.

I almost never see the same girl, so I can't really judge that way.

I'd like to treat them well and fairly without overdoing it.

Please PM with thought and guidelines or Post. Either way the community could benefit from.

Updated info.

Thanks,

Safado.I generally don't tip, especially if there was a high starting price and we had to haggle it down. If they bring up "add-ons" or "extras" then no way would I tip. However, if the fee is reasonable (low, like some NG or 262), then I may tip for great service. 530 on the other hand is not likely to get a tip since most of them have been jacking up the price and you never know what it will be until the action is ready to start.

ApplePiePussy
10-30-19, 21:54
https://chicago.rubratings.com/122117

262 raised the price for rub sessions. Greedy b*.It was only a few years ago when you could have an hour of Inessa for 160.

TheBigA1
11-01-19, 10:53
If she makes downtown a part of her regular rotation I may need to get a second job. She has a body to die for and gives one of the best BBBJ I have ever experienced.Is BBBJ available during massage sessions for the door fee? Or do you have to upgrade to VIP?

TJGeek
11-01-19, 11:57
This one popped up today.

https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-polish-hot-nelli-40110

Rates are higher than normal.

Any info or history on her?

Also, tempted to see Olga.

https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-beautiful-olga-glenview-38250

Anyone have details on her? Pictures real? PM me if needed.

Riina
11-01-19, 12:53
Is BBBJ available during massage sessions for the door fee? Or do you have to upgrade to VIP?Always bb for me without an up charge.

Riina
11-01-19, 12:53
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-polish-hot-nelli-40110

262 has a new Polish girl starting today. I was assured Nelli is not a rebrand from 530.

Riina
11-01-19, 13:49
This one popped up today.

https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-polish-hot-nelli-40110

Rates are higher than normal.

Any info or history on her?

Also, tempted to see Olga.

https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-beautiful-olga-glenview-38250

Anyone have details on her? Pictures real? PM me if needed.To what I understand, she is more of an Americanized Polish girl. I was assured she was not a rebrand from the other rub agencies. She is working in Deerfield, too far for me.

Riina
11-01-19, 15:18
Always bb for me without an up charge.Just to be clear, Nataly never up charged me for bbbj but she always knew I was going to tip her, I really like her. To what I understand from pm's, it looks like BBBJ is an up charge. Sorry for any confusion.

Also, I'm generally not tipping anymore. Prices are high and I'm tightening my belt.

Oramo
11-01-19, 15:45
This one popped up today.

https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-polish-hot-nelli-40110

Rates are higher than normal.

Any info or history on her?

Also, tempted to see Olga.

https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-beautiful-olga-glenview-38250

Anyone have details on her? Pictures real? PM me if needed.Be wary of new girls with hot pics, been burned more often than not. Olga pics are more realistic, I've had much better luck with GND looks.

Member #6125
11-04-19, 13:21
Has anyone has any experience with Belyana or Kinzie at 530? Thinking of trying one of them out.

https://www.vipbodyslide.com/model-for-few-days-new-vip-belyana-39700

WiseTraveler
11-05-19, 11:40
Not sure if this is really TOFTT since she's been around for years. MassageAnywhere + offers full body waxing and shaving = at a minimum not squeamish and I had hoped for more.

https://www.massageanywhere.com/profile/daivamarkevicius

She has a nice basement setup. I didn't ask if a shower was an option but it might be if you check in advance. The table was heated which was great given the cooler weather. Her massage was excellent and she never used elbows or hit my spine or other bones like many providers do. She did use lotion rather than oil which got slimy after a while.

She was casual about draping when face down and certainly teased some but was careful to never actually touch anything fun. I would guess you could go undraped in future visits but at most with DIY though she may just require more of a comfort level. The massage was just $50 so it's a fantastic deal just for that. She is older (60's?) though in a pleasant / cool grandma way and did press her curves down on my head and back at points. If I lived here, I'd see her regularly.

TJGeek
11-05-19, 21:23
Has anyone has any experience with Belyana or Kinzie at 530? Thinking of trying one of them out.

https://www.vipbodyslide.com/model-for-few-days-new-vip-belyana-39700I've been meaning to see Kinzie but 530 has fallen out of my favor due to high add-on costs.

I could not find reviews on Belyana (despite her being around for a while now) but you can check out these Kinzie reviews.

Post #6629 here: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5225-Escort-Reports&p=3976288&highlight=Kinzie#post3976288.

"Thank you to everyone who commented on how accurate 530's pics are. I ended up seeing Kinzie from 530, and she was great! She was a spinner, and very hot imo. I took the $1. 5 upgrade. Well worth it, and she rode like a champ!

Post #xxxx here: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5225-Escort-Reports&p=3944123&highlight=Kinzie#post3944123.

"Slim, gorgeous face and straight teeth. I think a couple of the photos on the site are her. Probably has a kid as the boobs have a slight deflated look but it didn't detract a ton. She has a nice body. CBJ. Upgraded to FS for 100 more. Seemed to enjoy herself. Not the most enthusiastic but certainly not the least. Would repeat. ".

If you see her, let us know.

Oramo
11-06-19, 02:59
I've been meaning to see Kinzie but 530 has fallen out of my favor due to high add-on costs.

I could not find reviews on Belyana (despite her being around for a while now) but you can check out these Kinzie reviews.

Post #6629 here: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5225-Escort-Reports&p=3976288&highlight=Kinzie#post3976288.Perhaps pics were accurate last year, but not know. I did not followe my own advise about hot pics with no reviews. I dreamt of Beatriz. Nightmare too say the least. PM if you want details. 530 seems to only churn and burn clients. Only thing positive is I TOFTT. You're welcome. .

TJGeek
11-06-19, 10:29
Perhaps pics were accurate last year, but not know. I did not followe my own advise about hot pics with no reviews. I dreamt of Beatriz. Nightmare too say the least. PM if you want details. 530 seems to only churn and burn clients. Only thing positive is I TOFTT. You're welcome. .Oramo, thanks for filling in that gap on Beatriz (no pun intended). I agree that 530 has been disappointing. I PM'ed you.

Member #6125
11-07-19, 11:05
Perhaps pics were accurate last year, but not know. I did not followe my own advise about hot pics with no reviews. I dreamt of Beatriz. Nightmare too say the least. PM if you want details. 530 seems to only churn and burn clients. Only thing positive is I TOFTT. You're welcome. .Thanks for the review Oramo.

Has anyone tried the new girl Linda at 2x2? Nataly and Vita have been amazing, but might want to switch it up.

ChicagoGom
11-07-19, 13:29
Thanks for the review Oramo.

Has anyone tried the new girl Linda at 2x2? Nataly and Vita have been amazing, but might want to switch it up.How is Nataly different from Vita? I tried Vita several times and just like to see if Nataly has something that Vita doesn't. Thanks.

TJGeek
11-07-19, 17:52
How is Nataly different from Vita? I tried Vita several times and just like to see if Nataly has something that Vita doesn't. Thanks.In my one experience with each one, Vita has more energy and is more willing to do things (she told me she likes anal) while Nataly is more reserved but has an extremely hot body (and a little higher price). I think Vita did some BBBJ while Nataly did CBJ. However, if you see Nataly, I don't think you will be disappointed. Very beautiful girl!

Oramo
11-09-19, 06:16
In my one experience with each one, Vita has more energy and is more willing to do things (she told me she likes anal) while Nataly is more reserved but has an extremely hot body (and a little higher price). I think Vita did some BBBJ while Nataly did CBJ. However, if you see Nataly, I don't think you will be disappointed. Very beautiful girl!Either will not disappoint both very attractive and accomidating. Vita is more on the GFE side, Nataly is younger.

Oramo
11-09-19, 06:21
Dreamt of her recently, took a chance with new talent and no reviews. I trust 7 x7 to not trash clients. Surprisingly nice visit. She is attractive, a bit reserved in the beginning but opens up toward the end. Thin with natural b cups.

GoHomeSmiling
11-09-19, 14:57
Not sure if this is really TOFTT since she's been around for years. MassageAnywhere + offers full body waxing and shaving = at a minimum not squeamish and I had hoped for more.

https://www.massageanywhere.com/profile/daivamarkevicius

She has a nice basement setup. I didn't ask if a shower was an option but it might be if you check in advance. The table was heated which was great given the cooler weather. Her massage was excellent and she never used elbows or hit my spine or other bones like many providers do. She did use lotion rather than oil which got slimy after a while.

She was casual about draping when face down and certainly teased some but was careful to never actually touch anything fun. I would guess you could go undraped in future visits but at most with DIY though she may just require more of a comfort level. The massage was just $50 so it's a fantastic deal just for that. She is older (60's?) though in a pleasant / cool grandma way and did press her curves down on my head and back at points. If I lived here, I'd see her regularly.Based on this, I would say you had the go ahead to explore cautiously and with respect. Probably feeling you out.

TJGeek
11-09-19, 21:23
Just in case you were hoping for the pictures to be really her (https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-polish-nelli-glenview-40110), they are the same as a girl in Germany: https://www.aros-escort.de/escortservice/celine-muc/.

So don't get your hopes up!

Riina
11-10-19, 12:47
Just in case you were hoping for the pictures to be really her (https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-polish-nelli-glenview-40110), they are the same as a girl in Germany: https://www.aros-escort.de/escortservice/celine-muc/.

So don't get your hopes up!I'm going to meet this girl because I know she's local and not a worn skank from out of town.


Dreamt of her recently, took a chance with new talent and no reviews. I trust 7 x7 to not trash clients. Surprisingly nice visit. She is attractive, a bit reserved in the beginning but opens up toward the end. Thin with natural b cups.Thanks for sharing.

TJGeek
11-10-19, 12:58
Dreamt of her recently, took a chance with new talent and no reviews. I trust 7 x7 to not trash clients. Surprisingly nice visit. She is attractive, a bit reserved in the beginning but opens up toward the end. Thin with natural b cups.Is this 262 New Polish Nellie? Was she worth the extra cost compared to other 262 ladies?

ErvsBlues
11-10-19, 14:32
Anyone seen this girl? Looks too good to be true? Googled her phone number and it showed a couple of ads for other cities, different pics, but still looks like it could be the same girl.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/152332

ErvsBlues
11-10-19, 20:21
Anyone seen this girl? Looks too good to be true? Googled her phone number and it showed a couple of ads for other cities, different pics, but still looks like it could be the same girl.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/152332Sorry. The ads gone now. Never mind.

Member #6125
11-11-19, 18:21
Has anyone seen this Amber girl before? She looks TGTBT. https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-vip-amber-glenview-3-days-40340.

Oramo
11-11-19, 20:39
Anyone seen this girl? Looks too good to be true? Googled her phone number and it showed a couple of ads for other cities, different pics, but still looks like it could be the same girl.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/152332I texted and found out the location (near north). Too much of a hassle. Am curious if anyone met up. Pics do look great.

Chijo9984
11-12-19, 07:41
Anyone seen this girl? Looks too good to be true? Googled her phone number and it showed a couple of ads for other cities, different pics, but still looks like it could be the same girl.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/152332I've visited her. She's got a set up in her studio apartment. Sexy girl with a great personality, but strict rules. I might go back only because she's convenient.

TJGeek
11-12-19, 11:39
I've visited her. She's got a set up in her studio apartment. Sexy girl with a great personality, but strict rules. I might go back only because she's convenient.Does she do FS? Cost? Picture her? Thanks.

Oramo
11-12-19, 13:03
Is this 262 New Polish Nellie? Was she worth the extra cost compared to other 262 ladies?Did not ask for upgrades, the door fee was worth it IMO. But looks like she's off the roster for now.

TJGeek
11-13-19, 22:24
Looks like a new NG but I'm not going to bother given the recent disappointments.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/154323

TinEye and Google did not find these images so they may be her?

Anyone going to check her out?

DynoJr
11-14-19, 10:45
I've visited her. She's got a set up in her studio apartment. Sexy girl with a great personality, but strict rules. I might go back only because she's convenient.It just says Chicago.

Oramo
11-14-19, 13:12
It just says Chicago.North Ave and Clark, at least what was texted to me.

Oramo
11-14-19, 13:17
Did not ask for upgrades, the door fee was worth it IMO. But looks like she's off the roster for now.Back on roster toddy, Very curious about Amber. Seem TGTBT.

TJGeek
11-15-19, 13:07
Looks like a new NG but I'm not going to bother given the recent disappointments.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/154323

TinEye and Google did not find these images so they may be her?

Anyone going to check her out?So this "NG" is sneaky! I think this is her real ad: https://escortindex.com/ad/chicago/224-386-9608/1/4926980 based on matching phone numbers. Other than Ola and Lara, NG seems to be disappointing. MA and 262 are my new friends. I would love to pull the trigger on 262 Nellie and Amber but need more info on their quality of FS.

TJGeek
11-15-19, 14:01
Amber's pictures don't match today. https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-vip-amber-last-day-today-40340.

The one below is very similar to what was on 530 a few weeks ago. Wonder if she jumped over from 530 or pictures are fake.

Bsuh69
11-19-19, 16:28
Anyone seen this girl? Looks too good to be true? Googled her phone number and it showed a couple of ads for other cities, different pics, but still looks like it could be the same girl.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/152332My regulars we're all unavailable so I tried her out. I'd advise as a hard pass. 140/180, HJ ending only and got very uncomfortable when I asked about upgrades. Nice top, fat bottom, cute face, not very sensual though. She did put gel on and slide, but it was almost like she was trying to make it therapeutic in a weird way. She's very nice and pleasant, just not very sensual, definitely not cut out for this work, much better value out there with superior girls.

Riina
11-19-19, 17:21
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-beautiful-nenci-40127

Rebrand from 2 years ago that was fired on day one for doing nothing. She was faking her Russian accent. Should have stayed home.

Member #6125
11-19-19, 18:13
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-beautiful-nenci-40127

Rebrand from 2 years ago that was fired on day one for doing nothing. She was faking her Russian accent. Should have stayed home.LOL good to know. Any idea if Amber at 2x2 is legit? Pics look TGTBY.

TJGeek
11-19-19, 22:40
LOL good to know. Any idea if Amber at 2x2 is legit? Pics look TGTBY.I have not seen Amber but the pictures don't match. See my post #679 below.

Riina, thanks for saving us the disappointment.

Donger999
11-20-19, 13:25
I have not seen Amber but the pictures don't match. See my post #679 below.

Riina, thanks for saving us the disappointment.I'm done with 262 based mostly on attitude.

Bbb1617
11-21-19, 12:11
https://chicago.rubratings.com/151495

She is older and not bad looking, nice rack, great attitude, braces that bothered me and that black / blue something that painted her whole mouth. It was an ok service, nothing to brag about. I was curious if she is NG. Unfortunately can't confirm on that.

Gooch
11-24-19, 08:54
Looks like a new NG but I'm not going to bother given the recent disappointments.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/154323

TinEye and Google did not find these images so they may be her?

Anyone going to check her out?I was thinking about it, just based on the Des Plaines location. Always looking for something close and convenient. Just haven't had the time lately. If she's still around next month, I may. If I do, I will post my findings.

TJGeek
11-24-19, 09:05
I was thinking about it, just based on the Des Plaines location. Always looking for something close and convenient. Just haven't had the time lately. If she's still around next month, I may. If I do, I will post my findings.Before you see her, see my post #678 below. The same phone number has 2 different sets of pictures so I doubt the "NG Style" pictures are really her.

BostonNinja
11-25-19, 15:33
Either will not disappoint both very attractive and accomidating. Vita is more on the GFE side, Nataly is younger.Never seen Vita. Like almost all the pics on 262, pics are fake. But, nataly has a tall slim model like body and nice rack just like the pic. Face is average. But, does offer BBBJ, amazing technique. But has a rule of no cim. Doesn't rush the BBBJ and asks for feedback on how to adjust to make sure it's how you like it. She will be my go to for this at 262, over Zlata who, while a tiny young petite spinner, only seems to offer CBJ. Hope that helps.

Riina
11-26-19, 14:34
, over Zlata who, while a tiny young petite spinner, only seems to offer CBJ. Hope that helps.Nataly is the best option out there,

Zlata gave me a BBBJCIM on her first day of work. Covered the second time we met.

Riina
12-02-19, 17:59
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-polish-nelli-glenview-40110

Had a very nice GFE time with Nelli. I can tell she's going to be my new Polish friend.

Oramo
12-03-19, 00:56
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-polish-nelli-glenview-40110

Had a very nice GFE time with Nelli. I can tell she's going to be my new Polish friend.Yep, I concur. She is a sweetheart, 262 is rolling out some talent it seems. .

Pupsnu
12-03-19, 13:04
Isn't 400 for full service kinda expensive?


https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-polish-nelli-glenview-40110

Had a very nice GFE time with Nelli. I can tell she's going to be my new Polish friend.

Riina
12-03-19, 13:23
Isn't 400 for full service kinda expensive?I paid 160 door fee. When I realized that I wanted to bone her, I told her I had 100 more and she accepted. It was BBBJCIM.

Grumpy83
12-04-19, 08:00
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-polish-nelli-glenview-40110

Had a very nice GFE time with Nelli. I can tell she's going to be my new Polish friend.Thank you for info. Tried to see Angelina but she was not free. Booker said Nelli was free and based on report I gave her a try. Tall skinny blonde. Opened door and she had a robe on, flashing just enough to peak my interest. Talked a few minutes and then I started to undress as we chatted. Got into bed and she took off robe and asked if I wanted to turn over. Started touching her and off came bra. Some DATY and kissing. She did BBBJ and I definitely will repeat.

TJGeek
12-04-19, 11:55
Thank you for info. Tried to see Angelina but she was not free. Booker said Nelli was free and based on report I gave her a try. Tall skinny blonde. Opened door and she had a robe on, flashing just enough to peak my interest. Talked a few minutes and then I started to undress as we chatted. Got into bed and she took off robe and asked if I wanted to turn over. Started touching her and off came bra. Some DATY and kissing. She did BBBJ and I definitely will repeat.Can you share cost of the BBBJ? Was it for the 30 min door fee or more? PM if needed. Thanks.

Bbb1617
12-04-19, 12:16
https://www.vipbodyslide.com/model-new-vip-mimka - 40548.

Convenience of the location made me choose 530. I thought I was going to visit someone new but when entered the room was familiar face.

Very nice experience all covered and pretty much memorable. She is very good looking and with great-Great body. Man made breasts that in my opinion is a decent job. She is nice and accommodating. Door fee plus 1 for the half hr.

Oramo
12-04-19, 13:05
Emily. Not sure if there are any reports. I searched. Pics look great. 262 has been relatively consistent lately.

Member #6125
12-04-19, 13:34
https://www.vipbodyslide.com/model-new-vip-mimka - 40548.

Convenience of the location made me choose 530. I thought I was going to visit someone new but when entered the room was familiar face.

Very nice experience all covered and pretty much memorable. She is very good looking and with great-Great body. Man made breasts that in my opinion is a decent job. She is nice and accommodating. Door fee plus 1 for the half hr.When you say all covered you mean she left her clothes on or the experience was FS?

Tom998
12-04-19, 13:45
https://www.vipbodyslide.com/model-new-vip-mimka - 40548.

Convenience of the location made me choose 530. I thought I was going to visit someone new but when entered the room was familiar face.

Very nice experience all covered and pretty much memorable. She is very good looking and with great-Great body. Man made breasts that in my opinion is a decent job. She is nice and accommodating. Door fee plus 1 for the half hr.What does she offer?

TJGeek
12-04-19, 14:55
https://www.vipbodyslide.com/model-new-vip-mimka - 40548.

Convenience of the location made me choose 530. I thought I was going to visit someone new but when entered the room was familiar face.

Very nice experience all covered and pretty much memorable. She is very good looking and with great-Great body. Man made breasts that in my opinion is a decent job. She is nice and accommodating. Door fee plus 1 for the half hr.Can you share who it was (name from the past) and how much was FS in addition to the door fee?

Bbb1617
12-04-19, 17:35
https://chicago.rubratings.com/ 156507.

I found this ad and seem to be NG. Too far for me to take advantage of this one, I guess it would be close to DownTown.

DennisLi2627
12-05-19, 01:24
Nelli gave me a great service recently. She aims to please and very friendly.

I will be back soon and will give more specific report.

See her and she will not disappoint.

Please treat her nicely.

We want more like her.

Bbb1617
12-05-19, 10:38
Can you share who it was (name from the past) and how much was FS in addition to the door fee?I wish I remember her old name, can't help you there but upgrade I did was a 100.

DynoJr
12-05-19, 10:40
I paid 160 door fee. When I realized that I wanted to bone her, I told her I had 100 more and she accepted. It was BBBJCIM.Wow, were those pics real?

Riina
12-05-19, 10:42
Wow, were those pics real?They were accurate.

Riina
12-05-19, 10:46
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-young-irisha-41026

262 has some new talent. Irisha is noted as 18. Normally, 262 uses 19 to reference college age girls. The last time I saw 18, she was really an 18 year old.

Bbb1617
12-05-19, 10:51
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-young-irisha-41026

262 has some new talent. Irisha is noted as 18. Normally, 262 uses 19 to reference college age girls. The last time I saw 18, she was really an 18 year old.Also looks like a spinner is coming.

https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-lovely-first-day-liza-1211-38142

RoughHewn7
12-05-19, 15:37
By far 2x2 has consistently delivered. Emily is no exception. The pictures don't do her justice. 20 years old, right on the money, with a free spirited personality beyond her years. She is far fitter than the pictures indicate, though she's more likely an A-cup, and she has the softest mixed color platinum blonde hair. She is a confident young woman, that is able to "switch" her personality based on her mood. She will let you know what she likes and doesn't like, allowing for the massage session to progress to your satisfaction. My understanding is that she's only around for a few more days; well worth booking an appointment.

Tom998
12-06-19, 04:37
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HardOn78
12-06-19, 10:36
I wish I remember her old name, can't help you there but upgrade I did was a 100.I saw her too if you are referring to the girl with braces. She had a weird way of CBJ and also no kissing except for a slight brushing the lips kinda that wouldn't qualify for lfk either. During DATY she was like a dead fish with no response what so ever and her manmades were a tad harder for my taste. She is beautiful and good body and she is a polska. May be YMMV.

Tom998
12-06-19, 18:35
Any experience with her?

https://www.vipbodyslide.com/model-newest--vip-angelia-40549

Any reports about menu?

Oramo
12-07-19, 08:22
Any experience with her?

https://www.vipbodyslide.com/model-newest--vip-angelia-40549

Any reports about menu?Almost certainly fake pics, if the disappointment of not seeing the same girl as in the pics doesn't kill it for you, the attitude of real girl will.

I learned the hard way to avoid 530.

Riina
12-07-19, 10:26
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-european-new-roksana-1208-41046

https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-georgeus-new-stefanie-1207-41042

https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-young-irisha-41026

https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-amber-1212-40340

Lots of new talent.

Chicago41
12-07-19, 12:23
I finally saw Rina a while back.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/120821

Really hot and youthful, tall, blonde. Fabulous tits. Friendly, not dumb, a bit chatty. Ok massage, price was right. Good L1 with roaming, keeps bottoms on no access to pussy. If all you want is a rub and tug from a really hot blonde then you could do worse. Some other reviews here indicated they thought she was stoned, I think that's just how she talks.

TJGeek
12-07-19, 12:36
Her last day today and she is downtown at a nice hotel.

I saw her last night and would go back for more if I had time. Cute as hell but her kisses were over the top!

Sadly, not into oral (YMMV) but otherwise, a mind blowing experience.

https://modelingave.escortbook.com/m...atherina-35080.

Modeling Avenue has not disappointed me and I'm looking to meeting a few more!

Ppete8231
12-08-19, 01:56
Almost certainly fake pics, if the disappointment of not seeing the same girl as in the pics doesn't kill it for you, the attitude of real girl will.

I learned the hard way to avoid 530.Except when marcelina is around. She used to be former NG, and is one of the best.

Tom998
12-08-19, 06:01
I wish I remember her old name, can't help you there but upgrade I did was a 100.It is Ana / Nelia. I guess.

Riina
12-08-19, 13:38
Her last day today and she is downtown at a nice hotel.

I saw her last night and would go back for more if I had time. Cute as hell but her kisses were over the top!

Sadly, not into oral (YMMV) but otherwise, a mind blowing experience.

https://modelingave.escortbook.com/m...atherina-35080.

Modeling Avenue has not disappointed me and I'm looking to meeting a few more!You would have liked her better when she was a fresh faced beginner at 262.

Member #6125
12-09-19, 14:53
530 just added "Marylin" anyone have an experience?

https://www.vipbodyslide.com/model-brand-new-marylin-41147

Member #6125
12-09-19, 14:55
Almost certainly fake pics, if the disappointment of not seeing the same girl as in the pics doesn't kill it for you, the attitude of real girl will.

I learned the hard way to avoid 530.Thats semi surprising. I had a dream with Esma and also Sonya. Both were very enjoyable. Sonya is gorgeous.

Which experience did you have when it was fake?

AlTango21
12-09-19, 18:29
They were accurate.Was able to see her today at Lombard location.

She was looking hot when she opened door but her attitude was uninterested at first. I thought this was not going to be good.

Asked what I wanted and responded with a massage. So as I was laying there she was giving a lame massage. So I took charge and told her to take everything off.

Started sucking on her nips and then she started to get into it. Dfk and day until she finished. Then BBBJ and I asked to fuck. Got the cover on and finished mish with her tongue in my mouth. Great time.

Bbb1617
12-10-19, 13:25
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-polish-nelli-glenview-40110

Had a very nice GFE time with Nelli. I can tell she's going to be my new Polish friend.I had really challenging time with 262 recently trying to see Nelli. I was on site at the arranged time and after an hour beyond app. I decide to leave. I mean if you arrange something make sure you keep up with your promises not giving me BS about room not ready or she catch a cold on the way. With all the respect to the scheduler it was really disappointing experience. I saw Riina's review and called next day to set up another app. Went in and found good looking Polish lady behind the door. It was a regular experience and nothing to drag about. I guess her heavy make up turned me off a bit. But she is accommodating and YMMV.

Riina
12-10-19, 14:05
I had really challenging time with 262 recently trying to see Nelli. I was on site at the arranged time and after an hour beyond app. I decide to leave. I mean if you arrange something make sure you keep up with your promises not giving me BS about room not ready or she catch a cold on the way. With all the respect to the scheduler it was really disappointing experience. I saw Riina's review and called next day to set up another app. Went in and found good looking Polish lady behind the door. It was a regular experience and nothing to drag about. I guess her heavy make up turned me off a bit. But she is accommodating and YMMV.I too have experienced some recent tension with the 262 booker. She was more professional in years past.

Ppete8231
12-11-19, 13:54
Dreaming of Nesha from 530. She is prob in low 30's, and has hot bod. She was generally very flexible, although doesn't like fk of any kind. $ upgrades were available, and overall very good time.

Bbb1617
12-11-19, 17:20
Amber is definitely older than 31 more like 41 or up. Body is great but loose, she has probably B size on the saggy side, a lot of modifications on the face. CBJ, CFS, FIV offered. On the good side she is really accommodating and willing, she wants to put a smile on your face. Not in my case, every time I was about to explode she would move or adjust or change position and at the end I left unsatisfied. I realize after I left that she went way over time to finish the job but I couldn't, She did try with CBJ and Hand but It was lost cause. Scheduler was angry at her and me for the overtime.

https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-amber-schaumburg-40340

JonSmith190
12-11-19, 18:44
Saw Emily while she was in town. What an absolute smoke show, beautiful!! Didn't partake in any upgrades, don't know if available but was just happy with the massage and CBJ finish.

Run from Belyana . Pics are non-representative as she was at least 50. I wanted to leave but stayed for the HJ.

Oramo
12-12-19, 15:02
Saw Emily while she was in town. What an absolute smoke show, beautiful!! Didn't partake in any upgrades, don't know if available but was just happy with the massage and CBJ finish.

Run from Belyana . Pics are non-representative as she was at least 50. I wanted to leave but stayed for the HJ.Yeah. Emily is about the best looking gal around. Unbelievable cute ass. She can be a stripper at top clubs. But the downside, as you mentioned, many restrictions. No LFK, DATY, FIV and a sense of 'why are you still here'.

CBJ was offered and she does want you to be happy in the end. Always prefer a GND GFE experience.

BostonNinja
12-12-19, 15:14
Thats semi surprising. I had a dream with Esma and also Sonya. Both were very enjoyable. Sonya is gorgeous.

Which experience did you have when it was fake?I actually don't find it semi surprising at all. 530 almost always has fake pics. So it's hit or miss how attractive the girl will be. I've had lucky experiences with "Nova", "Enni" who were stunning spinners, but many flops or just so so folks. It's just a matter of don't be surprised that the person in the pics may look nothing as advertised. Same thing with most of the 262 profiles. I saw "Domenica" recently from 262, looked nothing like the photos, but lucked out she was actually a young 20 something with a tight fit bod vs a 40 something, which can happen. Maybe you're on a heater of good luck, which is cool. But people should be aware the reality is hit or miss with looks and service at both of these places.

Ppete8231
12-12-19, 17:01
Dreamt of Liza. She was at a nice hotel in schaumburg, and pics were real- she looked a bit younger than 24, and had nice personality and very flexible / hot body. She aimed to please in my dreams- nice CBJ for door fees- upgrades were available w / all the acronyms included, but I didn't partake on the first visit. Overall a very happy dream.

Oramo
12-13-19, 02:58
Has a full boat today. New talent and reliable talent. Feel like a kid in a candy store. Damn! Thanks for the update on Liza.

From previous senior posts (and my own dreams):

Avoid Amber, Valerie.

Nataly, Nelli and Zlata (been a while) are great.

Vita of course is the standard for GFE, gone soon.

New talent have great pics. Hopefully they come through.

Riina
12-13-19, 11:28
Has a full boat today. New talent and reliable talent. Feel like a kid in a candy store. Damn! Thanks for the update on Liza.

From previous senior posts (and my own dreams):

Avoid Amber, Valerie.

Nataly, Nelli and Zlata (been a while) are great.

Vita of course is the standard for GFE, gone soon.

New talent have great pics. Hopefully they come through.https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/

They are truly the hub of Euro hookers.

BA4114
12-13-19, 13:01
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/

They are truly the hub of Euro hookers.I wish they had a location in the city. Damn.

TJGeek
12-14-19, 09:18
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/

They are truly the hub of Euro hookers.It looks like the are bumping up the prices on these new ladies. VIP / Escort 30 min is now 300 for many of them. I'm shifting over to MA more now.

SideTalker
12-14-19, 17:34
Whats the verification with 262 like? In schaumburg often for work.

Looking4692
12-15-19, 10:03
I was going to try and book Annabelle at MA this coming week and she is not even on MAs site anymore. Did she leave? She looked sexy as hell.

Riina
12-15-19, 14:29
I was going to try and book Annabelle at MA this coming week and she is not even on MAs site anymore. Did she leave? She looked sexy as hell.https://www.seeking.com/member/0aa78509-7e19-4651-b267-58e040bbd3ef

I think this is her SA link.

HardOn78
12-15-19, 15:08
Saw her the other day after looking at the pics, age etc. Pictures are ofcourse not real and not even close interms of representation aswell. She was short avg body, not flabby or anything but not tight or toned. B cups as specified in the profile and avg looking face and black hair. I took hh that included decent massage and on the flip CBJ with house fee. Extras are offered but I did not partake. She is friendly and aims to please but at that price, there are many options. I will not.

Repeat.

Ppete8231
12-16-19, 01:21
Anyone met with Milla at 530, or Melissa at CLM?

Riina
12-16-19, 09:58
It looks like the are bumping up the prices on these new ladies. VIP / Escort 30 min is now 300 for many of them. I'm shifting over to MA more now.No doubt MA is the better value. I'm tired of the sharky booker and her girls.

HardOn78
12-16-19, 10:48
Anyone met with Milla at 530, or Melissa at CLM?Seen Melissa an year ago. Her pics in the site are real. She is probably in her late 30's with nice body for her age, DD's and a beautiful face to go with her body. She is flirty and willing to please, ofcourse with a price. House price will get you a massage and standard finish but the rest is extra.

TJGeek
12-16-19, 15:09
New one popped up: https://chicago.rubratings.com/153350.

Name now is Lena but when I saw her (actual pictures) in December of 2017 it was Magdalena as part of the NG crew at Belmont / Harlem. She was cute, but not as hot as the pictures. Performance was OK but a bit rushed.

However, this may not be the same person as different name and phone number. May have just "borrowed" the pictures. One way to find out.

TJGeek
12-16-19, 20:04
Anyone met with Milla at 530, or Melissa at CLM?More info here, Report #21678: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2880-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=4499759&highlight=melissa#post4499759.

Bbb1617
12-17-19, 11:33
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-georgeus-new-stefanie-41042

I wanted to see the new talent Marena, witch turned out unavailable. Then I asked for Liza based on prior reviews and I was on the way a few confusing msgs on the way and I was there on site to find out that the confusing msgs were about Liza not being available, as I mentioned before it is hard to work with the scheduler lately. Anyways she redirected me to Stefany wich was not far. Pics are not real or they are from 10 years ago at least, Stefany is 30 ish I think, not as skinny as in the pictures, even have some cushion. She isn't a model for sure but performance wise I vouch for her, I did notice the muscles on her arms and her back, she told me she is active and also do yoga. Before she started it was all average experience so far, As soon as she started it was outaspace. She does offer xtras and it is well worth it. As always YMMV.

Datsurman
12-17-19, 12:08
Included is l1? L1. 5? L2? Titjob?

Extras are l2 or l3? About how much?

Don't like skinny so "cushion" sounds good.


https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-georgeus-new-stefanie-41042

I wanted to see the new talent Marena, witch turned out unavailable. Then I asked for Liza based on prior reviews and I was on the way a few confusing msgs on the way and I was there on site to find out that the confusing msgs were about Liza not being available, as I mentioned before it is hard to work with the scheduler lately. Anyways she redirected me to Stefany wich was not far. Pics are not real or they are from 10 years ago at least, Stefany is 30 ish I think, not as skinny as in the pictures, even have some cushion. She isn't a model for sure but performance wise I vouch for her, I did notice the muscles on her arms and her back, she told me she is active and also do yoga. Before she started it was all average experience so far, As soon as she started it was outaspace. She does offer xtras and it is well worth it. As always YMMV.

Datsurman
12-17-19, 12:31
You have to pay the 180 or 400 to get the BBBJCIM?


Thank you for info. Tried to see Angelina but she was not free. Booker said Nelli was free and based on report I gave her a try. Tall skinny blonde. Opened door and she had a robe on, flashing just enough to peak my interest. Talked a few minutes and then I started to undress as we chatted. Got into bed and she took off robe and asked if I wanted to turn over. Started touching her and off came bra. Some DATY and kissing. She did BBBJ and I definitely will repeat.

Riina
12-17-19, 13:35
https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-vip-sexy-nataly-downtown-30870

She's working downtown today. Certainly worth the door fee.

Bbb1617
12-17-19, 13:48
Included is l1? L1. 5? L2? Titjob?

Extras are l2 or l3? About how much?

Don't like skinny so "cushion" sounds good.Damage is noted on the link provided.

Bbb1617
12-17-19, 16:17
Dreamed of her because she was recommended by one of the most valuable seniors, Really young and fresh in my dream, teasing me a lot but stick with the standard service with daty, I consider it a good dream because of how enthusiastic she was.

Riina
12-17-19, 17:09
Dreamed of her because she was recommended by one of the most valuable seniors, Really young and fresh in my dream, teasing me a lot but stick with the standard service with daty, I consider it a good dream because of how enthusiastic she was.Sounds like I warmed her up nicely for you. Marena is everything I look for in the hobby, but service is limited and she doesn't speak English. She's worth more to me then other tutes as I'm obsessed with skinny college age Ukrainians.

Oramo
12-17-19, 23:10
Has a full boat today. New talent and reliable talent. Feel like a kid in a candy store. Damn! Thanks for the update on Liza.

From previous senior posts (and my own dreams):

Avoid Amber, Valerie.

Nataly, Nelli and Zlata (been a while) are great.

Vita of course is the standard for GFE, gone soon.

New talent have great pics. Hopefully they come through.Add Marena, Leza to the Positive list.

Roxana and Stefani are borderline.

Only leaves Maya.