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JoeDocks11
11-02-18, 18:39
Starting this thread to see if we can get some discussion going and compare notes.

I find that 200 will do it for almost any of the girls I want.

JChoi
11-02-18, 20:41
Starting this thread to see if we can get some discussion going and compare notes.

I find that 200 will do it for almost any of the girls I want.I haven't had much luck on SA or WYP recently. Lots of wasted credits and girls wanting too much money. Maybe JamesJ has had some luck? Wouldn't mind a utr referral or two.

JoeDocks11
11-03-18, 07:25
Sugar Baby Guide based on my experience with it.

Pros of having a sugar baby vs. Hookers:

The sugar baby girls (ones who aren't really just escorts from STG) are clean, usually drug free and not banging 5 guys a day. Many are college girls but also some are single moms in tough situations financially looking for extra help. They do not consider themselves prostitutes (although they really are. Just more selective ones).

You are usually exclusive with your sugar baby and there's no clock watching, timed appointment expectations and a lot less flakiness. Since you're not just one among many Johns she's seeing, she usually keeps your dates.

You are usually not driving to the hood to meet her and she will be looking a lot hotter and smell good compared to hookers. One I saw lived in a nicer neighborhood than I live in, although she rented a room so didn't own the house. Most are pretty intelligent women and most are more courteous and understanding than hookers because they are not trying to collect a fee and rush you out the door to go buy drugs or see the next John.

Bare back sex is more likely and more importantly, probably less risky! WAY less volume than hookers.

They all seem to accept that men will be older than they are. There's limits to this but after a short time on the site they realize that 21 year old men do not have the financial means to be on the site and become open to guys 15-25 years older than they are.

Cons:

It's expensive and time-consuming compared to normal mongering. Do not enter this thinking you will start a chat today to meet for a $30 BBBJ tomorrow. It's a long process.

Her overall expectations are higher than a hooker's. This is especially true with beginner girls since the sites tell them they will meet millionaires who will pay their college tuition and buy them cars!

She will expect a certain level of commitment from you be it an amount per month or if paying per session she is looking for a certain number of meetings per month. This is because unlike a hooker she hopes you will be her total source of extra income as opposed to trying to lineup as many johns as possible to meet the income goal.

In many cases you will be expected to provide the meeting place-hotel room. Motel 6 may not cut it if she's smokin hot and used to better things in life.

What to expect:

There's always a collection of girls who will message you with intent to sell you pictures or video. I found this hilarious considering pornhub etc, Exist with more porn than a man could ever want for free. You will see them mention an app "cash app". Do yourself a favor and do NOT get that app. I am short and to the point, replying to them to get lost.

You'll get immediate friending and mssgs from girls from the Phillipines and Russia. Hope I don't have to tell you to not waste your time on them unless you have a trip planned there.

Next there's what was BP girls, now STG, EroticMonkey and CityX girls. Gap-tooth Nicky, Destiny and a few others have been found on these Sugar Baby sites. Their profiles make them sound like real sugar babies. If you don't recognize a pro you'll know you got one because she will cut quickly to a price for a date. Real sugar babies never do this immediate price for sex in a first chat. It will be a higher price than STG too. And by all means if you like her and the deal works for you make the date! But don't be fooled and realize you're back with a drug addict who's had a LOT of pipe laid in that trench. Pay accordingly.

The sites have a collection of attention seeking time wasters and a few scammers. When you see after a few days of chatting that getting to the initial meeting is always met with excuses or "I'm not sure I want to just yet" you have a time waster on your hands. Some are recently joined members who are not quite sure they are ready for the next step. Some are just on the site for the attention of men. Same as that super hot ballbuster at the bar who never has a guy but enjoys shooting down every guy who approaches her. Scammers jump right to asking for money for basically nothing. Use the block feature. NEVER send anyone money! Cash for ass. No exceptions.

The actual sugar baby.

Her ultimate goal is to get the "monthly allowance" with as little expectations from you as possible. You will read this in many profiles and or she will tell you this in chat. She will ask for way more than you'd possibly want to spend and she will try to get you to agree to as few meetings as possible in exchange for it. My advice here is don't do the monthly allowance. Trust me, few guys are agreeing to this in spite of the bullshit story she'll tell you about her "last sugar daddy". I have many chat logs and to read most of them you'd think all the previous sugar daddies were super rich and paying her $3,000 a month to see her 2 x. It's not true! There's also many, probably due to the lies the website tells them about the men they will meet here, that think there's tons of guys willing to pay $500 for her to accompany you to lavish events. Arm candy. I do not believe there's any guys in PHX on the site paying for arm candy but anyway be aware of this expectation.

Establish you will pay per meeting. State "hotel room meeting" so she knows you mean sex, not a lunch / Dinner / event date. This leads me to another related point, some girls are expecting payment in a non-sexual arrangement! Some claim they've had prior sugar daddies who paid them for simply eating a dinner out with them etc. This is beyond bullshit and a lie. We men are all about the same. No guy is on these sites for a plutanic arrangement. That said, if her profile states this or she says this in chat just move on. The process of getting a sugar baby is long enough when the girl knows she has to put out. You will waste a ton more time trying to convince the naive girl that she should change her goals and expectations.

Getting started:

Make a profile. Put some meaningful things in it like what you seek and something interesting about you; hobbies, likes, whatever. Include photo (s). If you're trying to stay under the radar make them headless, but don't go with no pics. Many girls ignore guys with no pics. They care what you look like. They basically want a decent looking guy who will also pay up.

If you list yourself as married most girls will ignore you. Not all, but most. Obvious exception is the married women. There's not many of them. Sorry to tell you and no offense, but if you list your occupation as landscaper, truck driver or really anything blue-collar you have lowered your success rate a ton. These girls upon signing up on the site are sold on the fact they will meet successful, wealthy, generous men. While you could be earning a six figure income driving a truck her perception is based on TV and the ads for the website, not on your actual ability to pay her.

Note that new signups on most sites move you to the top of the search results so in the beginning you will receive more attention without doing anything to initiate it.

Your initial goal is to strike up a convo, trade cell #s (so if you quit the site or don't renew you still have contacts) and try to set a simple coffee or lunch meeting. Do NOT send her a pic of your cock or ask her for a titty pic! And to those of you morons who do this, the girls hate this and it kills your chances. Thereby making me look all the better! Be a gentleman. This is not BP! These girls view their side of this as more like friends with benefits than prostitution. You are courting her, not offering $40 for a BBBJ. The coffee meeting is to establish you two mesh. It's really more for her than for you because most of them care about compatibility. You should pretend you care about this too even if you don't. They view this as if seeking a boyfriend so, unlike a BP girl, the fact you'll spend money is not enough to achieve success. The sticky point here is to decide if you will pay her a fee just for this initial meeting. I refuse to. I admit I've lost quite a few initial meetings over this but I am not paying some girl $50-$100 (some expected more!) to simply have coffee or eat a lunch I am paying for.

At this initial meeting you are courting her like you do a potential girlfriend. Be charming. Pay for the meal. Ask her questions about her life and interests. What's her major in college. If she's interested in setting a date or arrangement SHE will bring this up, trust me. And it will cut right to the money part. "I usually get $500 per meeting" or "my last daddy paid me $3,000 a month allowance for 1-2 short meetings a month" is not uncommon to hear. 99% of the time I know its a complete lie but I now start negotiating. By the time you've met you should have already established you expect an arrangement involving "friends with benefits" or "intimacy". Avoid saying sex. Keep it classy. The girls call your date and your relationship a "meeting" or "arrangement" usually as well. No hooker lingo is used.

The super hot college girls are getting a lot of attention and have insane high expectations. Many also have links to gofundme or cashhapp on their profiles suggesting you just send them money for nothing. Many will not have sex with you at any price. All that said, I still take a crack at them and am in an arrangement that's run 10 months now with a 19 year old college girl. But I had a ton of attempts ending nowhere before her.

There's also a slew of mid 20's pros who will do one time dates but expect 350-500 and as soon as you offer less they have no interest. They are using the site like BP but are not listed on regular pro sites. If you can afford this per visit many are very, very hot girls.

The married women on the site I personally avoid. Too much risk of a jealous husband getting involved for me to risk it. If you're ok with that added danger they are as eager to fuck as they are to get paid.

There's a few who are into BDSM. My experience is they only want you if you are as well. They are also very selective and care about your looks and age.

By far the easiest success you will have will be with single mothers who live in rural areas not close to a big city. Most guys won't drive far to see them. For them I forgo the initial coffee meeting usually and chat for days / weeks instead leading to an encounter. Also women older than 30 are easier to get started with. They have far less success on the sites because they are competing with 20 year old hotties in college. Being single moms they always host saving me the motel bill as well. They are usually in tough situations and in my opinion actually need the money more than the college girls do. I've bought clothes for their kids a couple times even. With them sometimes drugs can be present but I've avoided those.

I drove 2. 5 hours to see a young single mom once. Bar none the hottest girl I've ever been with in my entire life! Blond hair, blue eyes, beautiful face, killer ass, nice firm B cups. A goddess. Cost was 250 in her apartment. I can't make that drive or pay that rate often but wow, what a memory!

Some other pluses to sugar babies:

Most are low mileage and have not slept with 100 guys the past 6-months like the pros we usually see. She's usually drug and disease free and expects you to be too.

Within reason there's no timer to encounters. Its more like when you had a girlfriend and got together. Shortest stay is usually about 2 hours. Less is because "I" have to go, not that she said "time's up".

If you buy lingerie she will wear it for you.

I've paid as high as 250 for an intimate meeting and as low as 50. And the girl for 50 was 19, in college and not ugly. She does everything but anal, wears the lingerie I bought her, talks dirty in the bedroom and swallows every drop! The 250 is my personal limit. If you're willing to pay more it will greatly expand your success rate. 350 opens up a lot of possibilities, but is just too much for me to pay personally.

If you're willing to pay 350-500 a session you will have many, many hot choices on the sites but remember to court her! Dress nice, smell nice, be respectful like you would be to a potential girlfriend.

Other tips:

Do not give personal info. Or Facebook pages out. If you're not single this hobby has extra danger compared to classic escorts as they communicate like you're a boyfriend and have no boundaries. Not a single girl I've seen knows even my first name, much less where I live and work other than Grand Rapids area. But most ask a lot of personal questions so be prepared.

Use a hobby phone! Again, these are not pros! They will initiate a call or text and think nothing of it. You are not a john to them. You are a friend with benefits.

It's a LONG process to get an arrangement. Be patient. You will send chat requests / initial chats to 100 girls to get 15-20 replies. Of the 15 replies 8 will chat again with you later. Of the 8, 3-5 MIGHT agree to meet you for coffee. 1-2 of those will no show / no call for that meeting. If you will pay her for meeting you your odds may be better than what I listed but I refuse to pay her to meet me for coffee.

If you drive an old car or look shabby, unshaven, smell bad or wear clothes you'd wear to do yard work you will have little success in this. These girls seek a man of means. You have to at least appear like you have money.

If you're unattractive, very overweight or very old you have an uphill battle. Unlike hookers, many girls on these sites want a guy they would have as a boyfriend but a little older and he pays them. And the hotter ones are VERY selective.

Read the girl's profile and reference in chat something in it you have in common or agree with. Otherwise you just seem like a hound dog who looked at her pics and nothing else.

If you're not rich, say so! I put right in my profile that I'm not wealthy but make a good living and am financially secure. This for me is to avoid wasting time with the mercenary gold diggers. And these sites are prime places for gold diggers.

Do not prepay for anything! Period! No PayPal, no Cash app no GoFundMe. The payment part should be the same as you follow for escorts. Service = payment.

Most girls expect you to be exclusive with them. If you are not going to be I suggest you lie about that. I lost many, many chances prior to a first meeting by being honest about it.

If the site search has distance ranges expand it to cover as far as you would drive. As said above, girls in rural areas are easier to hookup with. Also, MSU in Lansing has a large amount of sugar babies listed. If you'l drive to Lansing and can afford the high price they want its like heaven on earth.

If you can, get things in place where she contacts you to suggest getting together after your first intimate meeting. I was in most cases able to keep myself from being the one to suggest our next meeting. Partially because I pay per meeting so she has an incentive to want to see me again, and partially because I'm patient. Why you may ask? Because it keeps the balance of power with you. If you are always bugging her to hookup she knows you will probably be ok paying more. This overall concept came in to play when one of my sugar babies asked to setup a meeting and then suggested I pay more. I told her sorry money's a little tight right now. Take the agreed rate or leave it. She took it. If I had instead been the one trying for the meeting the dynamic would be different.

On the other hand if you have a well established arrangement going giving her a small gift or helping out with Christmas for her kids or whatever can go a long way to cementing things with her. Plus if its presents or clothes for her kids you are being a decent person at least. MUCH different than paying extra to an escort who will simply buy more drugs.

If you're gunning for bareback sex its a maybe, so bring condoms! She's not a pro and will not have any. When things begin take a shot at not mentioning condoms and see if she lets you continue. IF she stops you for protection say "Oh yea sorry, there in my jacket" or whatever. So far every sugar baby I had did BBBJ. Only half allowed BBfull service. Only a few allowed CIM. Do NOT ask about this in advance unless CIM is a deal breaker for you. Asking them this will get you labeled a gross perv. And kill your chances of a meeting.

Jamesj
11-03-18, 15:07
I haven't had much luck on SA or WYP recently. Lots of wasted credits and girls wanting too much money. Maybe JamesJ has had some luck? Wouldn't mind a utr referral or two.Since my name was mentioned, thought I would chime in.

Had been planning a weekend in Vegas for the Races, and decided to test the waters of WYP girls.

Change my search area several weeks ago, made and received numerous offers. (think there are lots of high dollar pros advertising on WYP-Vegas).

Settled on a 48 YO (no kids / white, 5' 2" , nice naturals, with a big ole booty and it was obvious she's NOT a druggie).

Agreed on 20, exchanged numbers, sent a few text and it synced for last Sunday evening after races. Picked her up at her extended stay on East Charleston. A complete shit hole!

Drove to a sports bar off Dean Martin, grabbed a bite (she does not drink) and headed to my Hotel on Trop. Very friendly, good (intelligent) conversation. Says she is out of work, had vehicle stolen, just trying to make a few bucks to pay rent.

Cindy offered BBBJ, CIM (No discussion of fee). Let me play and suck on her very nice (and large naturals).

She has a tongue ring, which upped the pleasure! Swallowed every drop and even commented on how large the protein shake was! (LOL).

One of the best BJ I've ever had. Asked how much I owed, said give me what you think is fair. Gave her a hun, and she was ecstatic.

Got dressed and asked that I drop her at Harrahs. Would repeat!

Wish her ass lived in Phoenix!

JamesJ.

JChoi
11-03-18, 21:46
Since my name was mentioned, thought I would chime in.

Had been planning a weekend in Vegas for the Races, and decided to test the waters of WYP girls.

Change my search area several weeks ago, made and received numerous offers. (think there are lots of high dollar pros advertising on WYP-Vegas).

Settled on a 48 YO (no kids / white, 5' 2" , nice naturals, with a big ole booty and it was obvious she's NOT a druggie).

Agreed on 20, exchanged numbers, sent a few text and it synced for last Sunday evening after races. Picked her up at her extended stay on East Charleston. A complete shit hole!

Drove to a sports bar off Dean Martin, grabbed a bite (she does not drink) and headed to my Hotel on Trop. Very friendly, good (intelligent) conversation. Says she is out of work, had vehicle stolen, just trying to make a few bucks to pay rent.

Cindy offered BBBJ, CIM (No discussion of fee). Let me play and suck on her very nice (and large naturals).

She has a tongue ring, which upped the pleasure! Swallowed every drop and even commented on how large the protein shake was! (LOL).

One of the best BJ I've ever had. Asked how much I owed, said give me what you think is fair. Gave her a hun, and she was ecstatic.

Got dressed and asked that I drop her at Harrahs. Would repeat!

Wish her ass lived in Phoenix!

JamesJ.Very nice. You haven had far more success than me for sure. I did reconnect with an old friend on wyp miarrakus. She's amazingly fun but costly. Thanks for your report. Be safe.

Journaz
11-03-18, 23:00
Since my name was mentioned, thought I would chime in.

Had been planning a weekend in Vegas for the Races, and decided to test the waters of WYP girls.

Change my search area several weeks ago, made and received numerous offers. (think there are lots of high dollar pros advertising on WYP-Vegas).

Settled on a 48 YO (no kids / white, 5' 2" , nice naturals, with a big ole booty and it was obvious she's NOT a druggie).

Agreed on 20, exchanged numbers, sent a few text and it synced for last Sunday evening after races. Picked her up at her extended stay on East Charleston. A complete shit hole!

Drove to a sports bar off Dean Martin, grabbed a bite (she does not drink) and headed to my Hotel on Trop. Very friendly, good (intelligent) conversation. Says she is out of work, had vehicle stolen, just trying to make a few bucks to pay rent.

Cindy offered BBBJ, CIM (No discussion of fee). Let me play and suck on her very nice (and large naturals).

She has a tongue ring, which upped the pleasure! Swallowed every drop and even commented on how large the protein shake was! (LOL).

One of the best BJ I've ever had. Asked how much I owed, said give me what you think is fair. Gave her a hun, and she was ecstatic.

Got dressed and asked that I drop her at Harrahs. Would repeat!

Wish her ass lived in Phoenix!

JamesJ.Very nice!

AzskyDiver
11-04-18, 00:18
Since my name was mentioned, thought I would chime in.

Had been planning a weekend in Vegas for the Races, and decided to test the waters of WYP girls.

Change my search area several weeks ago, made and received numerous offers. (think there are lots of high dollar pros advertising on WYP-Vegas).

Settled on a 48 YO (no kids / white, 5' 2" , nice naturals, with a big ole booty and it was obvious she's NOT a druggie).

Agreed on 20, exchanged numbers, sent a few text and it synced for last Sunday evening after races. Picked her up at her extended stay on East Charleston. A complete shit hole!

Drove to a sports bar off Dean Martin, grabbed a bite (she does not drink) and headed to my Hotel on Trop. Very friendly, good (intelligent) conversation. Says she is out of work, had vehicle stolen, just trying to make a few bucks to pay rent.

Cindy offered BBBJ, CIM (No discussion of fee). Let me play and suck on her very nice (and large naturals).

She has a tongue ring, which upped the pleasure! Swallowed every drop and even commented on how large the protein shake was! (LOL).

One of the best BJ I've ever had. Asked how much I owed, said give me what you think is fair. Gave her a hun, and she was ecstatic.

Got dressed and asked that I drop her at Harrahs. Would repeat!

Wish her ass lived in Phoenix!

JamesJ.I used to know a Cindy in Vegas that gave a fantastic BJ. Wonder if they're the same girl?

Peacekeeper
11-30-18, 18:55
Said she doesn't have phone bill paid so can only communicate thru website. Ask to buy peach ciroc for her as well after setting up an appointment. When I got there she blocked me. So avoid her scam guys.

Jim Stark
12-22-18, 14:47
Hi, I'm new to the Phoenix area, but I've been using SA with varied rates of success for the last five years. Back in my old state (Michigan), the going rate has recently gotten up to around 300 per meet. I've paid more and I've paid less, but that seems to be what's normal.

I read through the posts here, and it seems like 200 might be to the normal rate around here. I tend to like girls that are about 25 and under, so I know that sometimes comes with a premium price.

I'll share some of my successes here so you all can have fun too.

Back in Michigan, it was very easy to get whatever you wanted at a strip club and we also had a couple of really great non-Asian (my personal preference, Asian girls have never done anything for me) massage parlors and from what I'm reading, that doesn't seem to be the case here.

I'll continue to read the forums, but any help that you could give to someone new in town would be appreciated.

The Fisherman
12-25-18, 23:01
Great post. I will be in the area the next couple of days and was looking for intel for fun while in town and hoping to find something even though I won't be here long enough to get into the SB scene. I decided to check out this thread just to see what is going on and think your guide is spot on. Treat them like a girlfriend and they will act like one. Thanks!


Sugar Baby Guide based on my experience with it.

Pros of having a sugar baby vs. Hookers:

The sugar baby girls (ones who aren't really just escorts from STG) are clean, usually drug free and not banging 5 guys a day. Many are college girls but also some are single moms in tough situations financially looking for extra help. They do not consider themselves prostitutes (although they really are. Just more selective ones).

You are usually exclusive with your sugar baby and there's no clock watching, timed appointment expectations and a lot less flakiness. Since you're not just one among many Johns she's seeing, she usually keeps your dates.

You are usually not driving to the hood to meet her and she will be looking a lot hotter and smell good compared to hookers. One I saw lived in a nicer neighborhood than I live in, although she rented a room so didn't own the house. Most are pretty intelligent women and most are more courteous and understanding than hookers because they are not trying to collect a fee and rush you out the door to go buy drugs or see the next John.

Bare back sex is more likely and more importantly, probably less risky! WAY less volume than hookers.

They all seem to accept that men will be older than they are. There's limits to this but after a short time on the site they realize that 21 year old men do not have the financial means to be on the site and become open to guys 15-25 years older than they are.

Cons:

It's expensive and time-consuming compared to normal mongering. Do not enter this thinking you will start a chat today to meet for a $30 BBBJ tomorrow. It's a long process.

Her overall expectations are higher than a hooker's. This is especially true with beginner girls since the sites tell them they will meet millionaires who will pay their college tuition and buy them cars!

She will expect a certain level of commitment from you be it an amount per month or if paying per session she is looking for a certain number of meetings per month. This is because unlike a hooker she hopes you will be her total source of extra income as opposed to trying to lineup as many johns as possible to meet the income goal.

In many cases you will be expected to provide the meeting place-hotel room. Motel 6 may not cut it if she's smokin hot and used to better things in life.

What to expect:

There's always a collection of girls who will message you with intent to sell you pictures or video. I found this hilarious considering pornhub etc, Exist with more porn than a man could ever want for free. You will see them mention an app "cash app". Do yourself a favor and do NOT get that app. I am short and to the point, replying to them to get lost.

You'll get immediate friending and mssgs from girls from the Phillipines and Russia. Hope I don't have to tell you to not waste your time on them unless you have a trip planned there.

Next there's what was BP girls, now STG, EroticMonkey and CityX girls. Gap-tooth Nicky, Destiny and a few others have been found on these Sugar Baby sites. Their profiles make them sound like real sugar babies. If you don't recognize a pro you'll know you got one because she will cut quickly to a price for a date. Real sugar babies never do this immediate price for sex in a first chat. It will be a higher price than STG too. And by all means if you like her and the deal works for you make the date! But don't be fooled and realize you're back with a drug addict who's had a LOT of pipe laid in that trench. Pay accordingly.

The sites have a collection of attention seeking time wasters and a few scammers. When you see after a few days of chatting that getting to the initial meeting is always met with excuses or "I'm not sure I want to just yet" you have a time waster on your hands. Some are recently joined members who are not quite sure they are ready for the next step. Some are just on the site for the attention of men. Same as that super hot ballbuster at the bar who never has a guy but enjoys shooting down every guy who approaches her. Scammers jump right to asking for money for basically nothing. Use the block feature. NEVER send anyone money! Cash for ass. No exceptions.

The actual sugar baby.

Her ultimate goal is to get the "monthly allowance" with as little expectations from you as possible. You will read this in many profiles and or she will tell you this in chat. She will ask for way more than you'd possibly want to spend and she will try to get you to agree to as few meetings as possible in exchange for it. My advice here is don't do the monthly allowance. Trust me, few guys are agreeing to this in spite of the bullshit story she'll tell you about her "last sugar daddy". I have many chat logs and to read most of them you'd think all the previous sugar daddies were super rich and paying her $3,000 a month to see her 2 x. It's not true! There's also many, probably due to the lies the website tells them about the men they will meet here, that think there's tons of guys willing to pay $500 for her to accompany you to lavish events. Arm candy. I do not believe there's any guys in PHX on the site paying for arm candy but anyway be aware of this expectation.

Establish you will pay per meeting. State "hotel room meeting" so she knows you mean sex, not a lunch / Dinner / event date. This leads me to another related point, some girls are expecting payment in a non-sexual arrangement! Some claim they've had prior sugar daddies who paid them for simply eating a dinner out with them etc. This is beyond bullshit and a lie. We men are all about the same. No guy is on these sites for a plutanic arrangement. That said, if her profile states this or she says this in chat just move on. The process of getting a sugar baby is long enough when the girl knows she has to put out. You will waste a ton more time trying to convince the naive girl that she should change her goals and expectations.

Getting started:

Make a profile. Put some meaningful things in it like what you seek and something interesting about you; hobbies, likes, whatever. Include photo (s). If you're trying to stay under the radar make them headless, but don't go with no pics. Many girls ignore guys with no pics. They care what you look like. They basically want a decent looking guy who will also pay up.

If you list yourself as married most girls will ignore you. Not all, but most. Obvious exception is the married women. There's not many of them. Sorry to tell you and no offense, but if you list your occupation as landscaper, truck driver or really anything blue-collar you have lowered your success rate a ton. These girls upon signing up on the site are sold on the fact they will meet successful, wealthy, generous men. While you could be earning a six figure income driving a truck her perception is based on TV and the ads for the website, not on your actual ability to pay her.

Note that new signups on most sites move you to the top of the search results so in the beginning you will receive more attention without doing anything to initiate it.

Your initial goal is to strike up a convo, trade cell #s (so if you quit the site or don't renew you still have contacts) and try to set a simple coffee or lunch meeting. Do NOT send her a pic of your cock or ask her for a titty pic! And to those of you morons who do this, the girls hate this and it kills your chances. Thereby making me look all the better! Be a gentleman. This is not BP! These girls view their side of this as more like friends with benefits than prostitution. You are courting her, not offering $40 for a BBBJ. The coffee meeting is to establish you two mesh. It's really more for her than for you because most of them care about compatibility. You should pretend you care about this too even if you don't. They view this as if seeking a boyfriend so, unlike a BP girl, the fact you'll spend money is not enough to achieve success. The sticky point here is to decide if you will pay her a fee just for this initial meeting. I refuse to. I admit I've lost quite a few initial meetings over this but I am not paying some girl $50-$100 (some expected more!) to simply have coffee or eat a lunch I am paying for.

At this initial meeting you are courting her like you do a potential girlfriend. Be charming. Pay for the meal. Ask her questions about her life and interests. What's her major in college. If she's interested in setting a date or arrangement SHE will bring this up, trust me. And it will cut right to the money part. "I usually get $500 per meeting" or "my last daddy paid me $3,000 a month allowance for 1-2 short meetings a month" is not uncommon to hear. 99% of the time I know its a complete lie but I now start negotiating. By the time you've met you should have already established you expect an arrangement involving "friends with benefits" or "intimacy". Avoid saying sex. Keep it classy. The girls call your date and your relationship a "meeting" or "arrangement" usually as well. No hooker lingo is used.

The super hot college girls are getting a lot of attention and have insane high expectations. Many also have links to gofundme or cashhapp on their profiles suggesting you just send them money for nothing. Many will not have sex with you at any price. All that said, I still take a crack at them and am in an arrangement that's run 10 months now with a 19 year old college girl. But I had a ton of attempts ending nowhere before her.

There's also a slew of mid 20's pros who will do one time dates but expect 350-500 and as soon as you offer less they have no interest. They are using the site like BP but are not listed on regular pro sites. If you can afford this per visit many are very, very hot girls.

The married women on the site I personally avoid. Too much risk of a jealous husband getting involved for me to risk it. If you're ok with that added danger they are as eager to fuck as they are to get paid.

There's a few who are into BDSM. My experience is they only want you if you are as well. They are also very selective and care about your looks and age.

By far the easiest success you will have will be with single mothers who live in rural areas not close to a big city. Most guys won't drive far to see them. For them I forgo the initial coffee meeting usually and chat for days / weeks instead leading to an encounter. Also women older than 30 are easier to get started with. They have far less success on the sites because they are competing with 20 year old hotties in college. Being single moms they always host saving me the motel bill as well. They are usually in tough situations and in my opinion actually need the money more than the college girls do. I've bought clothes for their kids a couple times even. With them sometimes drugs can be present but I've avoided those.

I drove 2. 5 hours to see a young single mom once. Bar none the hottest girl I've ever been with in my entire life! Blond hair, blue eyes, beautiful face, killer ass, nice firm B cups. A goddess. Cost was 250 in her apartment. I can't make that drive or pay that rate often but wow, what a memory!

Some other pluses to sugar babies:

Most are low mileage and have not slept with 100 guys the past 6-months like the pros we usually see. She's usually drug and disease free and expects you to be too.

Within reason there's no timer to encounters. Its more like when you had a girlfriend and got together. Shortest stay is usually about 2 hours. Less is because "I" have to go, not that she said "time's up".

If you buy lingerie she will wear it for you.

I've paid as high as 250 for an intimate meeting and as low as 50. And the girl for 50 was 19, in college and not ugly. She does everything but anal, wears the lingerie I bought her, talks dirty in the bedroom and swallows every drop! The 250 is my personal limit. If you're willing to pay more it will greatly expand your success rate. 350 opens up a lot of possibilities, but is just too much for me to pay personally.

If you're willing to pay 350-500 a session you will have many, many hot choices on the sites but remember to court her! Dress nice, smell nice, be respectful like you would be to a potential girlfriend.

Other tips:

Do not give personal info. Or Facebook pages out. If you're not single this hobby has extra danger compared to classic escorts as they communicate like you're a boyfriend and have no boundaries. Not a single girl I've seen knows even my first name, much less where I live and work other than Grand Rapids area. But most ask a lot of personal questions so be prepared.

Use a hobby phone! Again, these are not pros! They will initiate a call or text and think nothing of it. You are not a john to them. You are a friend with benefits.

It's a LONG process to get an arrangement. Be patient. You will send chat requests / initial chats to 100 girls to get 15-20 replies. Of the 15 replies 8 will chat again with you later. Of the 8, 3-5 MIGHT agree to meet you for coffee. 1-2 of those will no show / no call for that meeting. If you will pay her for meeting you your odds may be better than what I listed but I refuse to pay her to meet me for coffee.

If you drive an old car or look shabby, unshaven, smell bad or wear clothes you'd wear to do yard work you will have little success in this. These girls seek a man of means. You have to at least appear like you have money.

If you're unattractive, very overweight or very old you have an uphill battle. Unlike hookers, many girls on these sites want a guy they would have as a boyfriend but a little older and he pays them. And the hotter ones are VERY selective.

Read the girl's profile and reference in chat something in it you have in common or agree with. Otherwise you just seem like a hound dog who looked at her pics and nothing else.

If you're not rich, say so! I put right in my profile that I'm not wealthy but make a good living and am financially secure. This for me is to avoid wasting time with the mercenary gold diggers. And these sites are prime places for gold diggers.

Do not prepay for anything! Period! No PayPal, no Cash app no GoFundMe. The payment part should be the same as you follow for escorts. Service = payment.

Most girls expect you to be exclusive with them. If you are not going to be I suggest you lie about that. I lost many, many chances prior to a first meeting by being honest about it.

If the site search has distance ranges expand it to cover as far as you would drive. As said above, girls in rural areas are easier to hookup with. Also, MSU in Lansing has a large amount of sugar babies listed. If you'l drive to Lansing and can afford the high price they want its like heaven on earth.

If you can, get things in place where she contacts you to suggest getting together after your first intimate meeting. I was in most cases able to keep myself from being the one to suggest our next meeting. Partially because I pay per meeting so she has an incentive to want to see me again, and partially because I'm patient. Why you may ask? Because it keeps the balance of power with you. If you are always bugging her to hookup she knows you will probably be ok paying more. This overall concept came in to play when one of my sugar babies asked to setup a meeting and then suggested I pay more. I told her sorry money's a little tight right now. Take the agreed rate or leave it. She took it. If I had instead been the one trying for the meeting the dynamic would be different.

On the other hand if you have a well established arrangement going giving her a small gift or helping out with Christmas for her kids or whatever can go a long way to cementing things with her. Plus if its presents or clothes for her kids you are being a decent person at least. MUCH different than paying extra to an escort who will simply buy more drugs.

If you're gunning for bareback sex its a maybe, so bring condoms! She's not a pro and will not have any. When things begin take a shot at not mentioning condoms and see if she lets you continue. IF she stops you for protection say "Oh yea sorry, there in my jacket" or whatever. So far every sugar baby I had did BBBJ. Only half allowed BBfull service. Only a few allowed CIM. Do NOT ask about this in advance unless CIM is a deal breaker for you. Asking them this will get you labeled a gross perv. And kill your chances of a meeting.

Jim Stark
01-22-19, 04:19
Does anyone have luck with girls on SA from the Phoenix area? I've been here for a month and I don't feel like I'm being cheap, but it's been hard to find someone that's actually serious about meeting up.

JChoi
01-23-19, 01:29
Does anyone have luck with girls on SA from the Phoenix area? I've been here for a month and I don't feel like I'm being cheap, but it's been hard to find someone that's actually serious about meeting up.It's a little dried up for me. Between sA and WYP I've been draining credits left and right. I did meet a gal on WYP lilsass whom I saw and she was decent but not something worth repeating.

Be safe.

Jc.

Dsprdo
01-24-19, 14:24
Does anyone have luck with girls on SA from the Phoenix area? I've been here for a month and I don't feel like I'm being cheap, but it's been hard to find someone that's actually serious about meeting up.I've been on and off SA for about 4 years now. At first it was an absolute gold mine, but the last couple of years I've seen more and more flakes and girls expectations are way up. I still find the occasional good one but it is a ton of work.

PhxFunLover
01-25-19, 02:56
I've been on and off SA for about 4 years now. At first it was an absolute gold mine, but the last couple of years I've seen more and more flakes and girls expectations are way up. I still find the occasional good one but it is a ton of work.Yeah it was pretty good about 3-4 years ago when I first tried it, but now the effort isn't worth it to me.

Jim Stark
01-26-19, 16:11
Yeah it was pretty good about 3-4 years ago when I first tried it, but now the effort isn't worth it to me.What do you do instead? Are you back to escorts?

PhxFunLover
01-28-19, 02:45
What do you do instead? Are you back to escorts?Yeah, less headaches sticking to the reviewed ones. I also, take trips throughout the year to places where its legal with the money I save not dealing with SBs.

PoonHound1969
01-29-19, 20:48
Sounds like the sugar pool is a little rough in PX?

I am sending some messages and will report back if I have success, but would love some suggestions on who to hit up on SA.

I have the game I need from there.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Jim Stark
01-30-19, 23:58
Sounds like the sugar pool is a little rough in PX?

I am sending some messages and will report back if I have success, but would love some suggestions on who to hit up on SA.

I have the game I need from there.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.What type of girls are you looking at? I'm getting into the sugar pool too.

Dsprdo
01-31-19, 11:49
Seems like the hot ASU types are all looking for 400 per. I try to stay at 200 or less and it's hot and cold. At that I have better luck with the Latina's. If her profile says Scottsdale, generally they have GPS. Used to be you could get lots of girls to a meet and greet without having a cash discussion, now many of them are asking in the first few messages what the allowance is. Also a lot more scams and pros these days. Generally they are all a lot more informed and business like about the whole thing. You can still find a great one occasionally, had a 19 year old low mileage girls in my bed Sunday night for 3 hours who took anything I could come up with.

PoonHound1969
01-31-19, 17:46
What type of girls are you looking at? I'm getting into the sugar pool too.I am in town for the week starting Tues. So I need a short term sugar! I like them petite.

JChoi
03-21-19, 02:17
Done with wyp and decided to pay the 90 $ fee for SA. Got lucky the other night with a brunette. Cost me $. 5 for the room and $ for some BBBJ and some FS. I'll ask her again if she wants me to share her info or username when I meet her again. SA is definitely better than WYp as far as paying for what you get.

Cheers. JC.

Papa Rotzi
03-21-19, 21:29
Thats one hell of a good deal for SA -- most of the girls want $300 to $500.

Kudos to you -.


Done with wyp and decided to pay the 90 $ fee for SA. Got lucky the other night with a brunette. Cost me $. 5 for the room and $ for some BBBJ and some FS. I'll ask her again if she wants me to share her info or username when I meet her again. SA is definitely better than WYp as far as paying for what you get.

Cheers. JC.

Chica Luv
04-03-19, 17:50
Papa knows best.


Thats one hell of a good deal for SA -- most of the girls want $300 to $500.

Kudos to you -.

Desert Rat
04-18-19, 02:14
Done with wyp and decided to pay the 90 $ fee for SA. Got lucky the other night with a brunette. Cost me $. 5 for the room and $ for some BBBJ and some FS. I'll ask her again if she wants me to share her info or username when I meet her again. SA is definitely better than WYp as far as paying for what you get.

Cheers. JC.You are the man. I have never got shit from that site.

JChoi
05-11-19, 16:35
You are the man. I have never got shit from that site.Thanks, just got to be persistent. Site went a little cold and lots of girls are wanting to do outcalls so a room.

Is costing me a bunch more. The search is still on for long term relationships. Be safe.

Old20
06-23-19, 21:14
I am, I'm a 60+ married man who hasn't had sex with my wife in over two years. I was a monger, but decided to give this a try.

I first visited Seeking in August of 2017. I had a couple of instant hits but retired when I was stood up on my first two back to back M&Gs. Then in February I met a part-time model who wanted an allowance double what I was willing to pay, but she showed up for the M&G, so I was on my way. Between February and July, I set up arrangements with three SBs all between 19 and 22. My top expense was about $350 which include a hotel room. The majority of my allowances has been considerably cheaper than that.

I have had an arrangement with one SB for over a year. While honestly she was the least attractive, what would be described as a bbw, although she is tiny in height and denies having any beauty, she has been very giving. On our second meet she refused to allow me to pay for her Uber, stating I had paid the agreed upon allowance. Part of why she is Sugaring, is she loves the sex, she particularly likes to fuck.

So we've gotten to the point that what I'm willing to pay and what I have been paying her is not enough. Her family is no help whatsoever, she has a dead end job and is getting back into being a SB. She is some distance from Phoenix, and will not be to the liking of guys who are still looking for the lithe model type, but she has definitely brought value added to me far exceeding her allowance. On the other hand if somebody is traveling into California she might be just the right company during a break along the way.

I'm going to miss her and am sure I will have a hard time finding someone as open and giving as her in the sugar bowl.

Desert Rat
06-25-19, 17:07
I have had an arrangement with one SB for over a year. While honestly she was the least attractive, what would be described as a bbw, although she is tiny in height and denies having any beauty, she has been very giving. On our second meet she refused to allow me to pay for her Uber, stating I had paid the agreed upon allowance. Part of why she is Sugaring, is she loves the sex, she particularly likes to fuck.

On the other hand if somebody is traveling into California she might be just the right company during a break along the way.

I'm going to miss her and am sure I will have a hard time finding someone as open and giving as her in the sugar bowl.Looking at your history I am assuming the young lady lives in Yuma. You posted this in San Diego and Phoenix which make sense to me. Do you want us to find her on Seeking? I am a member. Or would you be willing to PM information to cut to the chase. Let me know. Thank you, sir.

Dsprdo
07-01-19, 15:35
It's work, and it runs hot and cold, but I swear by it. Currently I'm on a hot streak. I don't have enough time (or cash) for all the girls I'm talking to right now who want to meet this week and are dtf.

GMob69
07-04-19, 01:35
I am considering paying to unlock.


It's work, and it runs hot and cold, but I swear by it. Currently I'm on a hot streak. I don't have enough time (or cash) for all the girls I'm talking to right now who want to meet this week and are dtf.

GMob69
07-09-19, 18:25
Seems like the hot ASU types are all looking for 400 per. I try to stay at 200 or less and it's hot and cold. At that I have better luck with the Latina's. If her profile says Scottsdale, generally they have GPS. Used to be you could get lots of girls to a meet and greet without having a cash discussion, now many of them are asking in the first few messages what the allowance is. Also a lot more scams and pros these days. Generally they are all a lot more informed and business like about the whole thing. You can still find a great one occasionally, had a 19 year old low mileage girls in my bed Sunday night for 3 hours who took anything I could come up with.Struggling with the acronym. Pleas enlighten me.

Smokeey
07-10-19, 00:58
Struggling with the acronym. Pleas enlighten me.Golden Kitty Syndrome.

GMob69
07-10-19, 01:57
OK here is my experience.

I paid the fee to unlock the messaging. Like it was said, you immediately get hit up by ransoms. It helped that I posted a picture and was up front about what I wanted. After the unlock, I just simple set the net out and set up some simple filters and started asking for private photo and liking profiles that were attractive regardless of what they were "Seeking". I would not contact anyone directly, other than asking to unlock photos.

Eventually the girls started messaging. I would immediately give them my hobby mobile number and strike up a simple on the site conversation. 100% of them started with "hey how are you doing". Have your canned responses ready. Half of the girls would respond with a text to the mobile number. At that point, you need to be up front, as they want to set up a meeting. As said before there are a lot of pros on SA. Negotiations will start. Be upfront with what you are willing pay.

Bottom line here. The site was successful. I just hooked up with the hottest chick that I saw on the site that was asking for 500 a meeting. I held to my guns and offered 250, she accepted. She was obviously a semi pro but I did not care.

One think I did learn. Pussy is pussy at the end of the day. Don't over pay.

My assessment.

25% pros.

50% chicks who don't know what they are doing.

25% non pros actually looking for an arrangement.

I am going to keep trying for a more GFE type thing on here. Sine I don't mind taking a girl to dinner.

Vivid Dream
07-10-19, 11:16
Struggling with the acronym. Pleas enlighten me.My guess GPS = golden pussy syndrome.

Not A Newbie
07-11-19, 18:22
University of North Carolina student earned $12,000 a month from three sugar daddies.

According to SeekingArrangement data, the average sugar daddy is 41 years old and has an annual income of $250,000.

More here:

https://www.thecollegefix.com/sugar-daddy-business-thrives-as-more-coeds-sign-up-to-pay-off-student-debt/

Panache
07-14-19, 21:28
I live in Safford AZ, which is a small town located about 3. 5 hrs east of Phoenix. It's a rural community in the middle of nowhere, but it does have a small community college. There are absolutely no escorts / hookers here. Not even one. With that said, how many women in this town would be on a site like SA? It's hard to imagine any at all. I wouldn't mind spending the cost of a membership as long as the site contains a workable number of legitimate women. I'd appreciate someone checking that and letting me know.

Dsprdo
07-15-19, 12:57
35 within 50 miles. A few of whom are doable. You can create a profile and search without paying, just can't message.

Panache
07-15-19, 13:57
Only 7 of those 35 have logged in within the last 30 days. Am I correct in assuming that the other 28 would be a waste of time to contact?


35 within 50 miles. A few of whom are doable. You can create a profile and search without paying, just can't message.

Dsprdo
07-15-19, 21:32
Only 7 of those 35 have logged in within the last 30 days. Am I correct in assuming that the other 28 would be a waste of time to contact?Yeah sorry, I wasn't paying attention. You're probably right.

GMob69
07-17-19, 13:22
Yeah sorry, I wasn't paying attention. You're probably right.I have two dates set up for next week on the Phoenix area. (With two backups just in case).

In gerneral, I am finding there is more girls that are DTF than I can possiblly manage. Most of them are ASU types or semi-pros (dancers and what have you). You can generally tell is a profile has GPS.

If a profile has private photos, I almost always click to ask to see them. That opens up the conversation, ususally started by them. I reply in a straight forward manner with what I am looking for and a phone number to text (standard copy and paste). About one in five will text my phone and we will start chatting. After the simple pleasantries we usually get to the point of negotiations. Some girls will sent sexy photos at that point I know it's pretty much a lock.

They all ask for more than you are willing to pay. So low ball them. They will say I ususally get more. I politely decline and apologize for wasting their time. If I really like them, I will offer a little more. Most of the time, they agree and are willing to set up a meeting.

This has worked once already for me. Like I said I have two dates setup next week and will report back.

I do agree that it's best to try and aim at the college girls since they ususally will go for less. We will see.

Bottom line, SA is delivering more than I can handle at the moment.

Vivid Dream
07-17-19, 18:27
I have two dates set up for next week on the Phoenix area. (With two backups just in case).

In gerneral, I am finding there is more girls that are DTF than I can possiblly manage. Most of them are ASU types or semi-pros (dancers and what have you). You can generally tell is a profile has GPS.

If a profile has private photos, I almost always click to ask to see them. That opens up the conversation, ususally started by them. I reply in a straight forward manner with what I am looking for and a phone number to text (standard copy and paste). About one in five will text my phone and we will start chatting. After the simple pleasantries we usually get to the point of negotiations. Some girls will sent sexy photos at that point I know it's pretty much a lock.

They all ask for more than you are willing to pay. So low ball them. They will say I ususally get more. I politely decline and apologize for wasting their time. If I really like them, I will offer a little more. Most of the time, they agree and are willing to set up a meeting.

This has worked once already for me. Like I said I have two dates setup next week and will report back.

I do agree that it's best to try and aim at the college girls since they ususally will go for less. We will see.

Bottom line, SA is delivering more than I can handle at the moment.Thanks for sharing! Good information.

Old20
08-03-19, 02:22
So this girl is not model material and she's not in Phoenix, but she is sweet and honest. She is small in stature but has a full figure. If you travel towards California, she might be worth your time.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b015b...8-6c7c61176993

Vivid Dream
08-05-19, 15:12
So this girl is not model material and she's not in Phoenix, but she is sweet and honest. She is small in stature but has a full figure. If you travel towards California, she might be worth your time.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b015b...8-6c7c61176993Link no longer works.

Chica Luv
08-05-19, 20:28
I guess we all have our stories. I've been using SA since 2009 with varying success. When I first started the women seems very different in the straight up demand for money. Most were willing to meet and even let you sample the goods prior to negotiating the Arrangement.

Alas, thinks have change, and not for the better. In the last 2 weeks I've had mostly scam artist wanting cash up front just to meet me for drinks. Of course, they want me to use a cash app to send it to them. Many have no intentions of ever coming through with the 'goods' even if they do show up for the 1st meeting.

Long story, I believe there still is some fun to be had, but the drama and the work load are overly demanding. If your desire is just to get laid, then it's a lot easier just to get in touch with a Pro, visit an AMP or develop a relationship with a stripper.

However, if you desire is to have develop an ongoing with the Hottie of your choice, then by all means plow ahead.

YMMV.

CL.


I have two dates set up for next week on the Phoenix area. (With two backups just in case).

In general, I am finding there is more girls that are DTF than I can possibly manage. Most of them are ASU types or semi-pros (dancers and what have you). You can generally tell is a profile has GPS.

If a profile has private photos, I almost always click to ask to see them. That opens up the conversation, ususally started by them. I reply in a straight forward manner with what I am looking for and a phone number to text (standard copy and paste). About one in five will text my phone and we will start chatting. After the simple pleasantries we usually get to the point of negotiations. Some girls will sent sexy photos at that point I know it's pretty much a lock.

They all ask for more than you are willing to pay. So low ball them. They will say I ususally get more. I politely decline and apologize for wasting their time. If I really like them, I will offer a little more. Most of the time, they agree and are willing to set up a meeting.

This has worked once already for me. Like I said I have two dates setup next week and will report back.

I do agree that it's best to try and aim at the college girls since they ususally will go for less. We will see.

Bottom line, SA is delivering more than I can handle at the moment.

Vivid Dream
08-06-19, 12:58
I guess we all have our stories. I've been using SA since 2009 with varying success. When I first started the women seems very different in the straight up demand for money. Most were willing to meet and even let you sample the goods prior to negotiating the Arrangement.

Alas, thinks have change, and not for the better. In the last 2 weeks I've had mostly scam artist wanting cash up front just to meet me for drinks. Of course, they want me to use a cash app to send it to them. Many have no intentions of ever coming through with the 'goods' even if they do show up for the 1st meeting.

Long story, I believe there still is some fun to be had, but the drama and the work load are overly demanding. If your desire is just to get laid, then it's a lot easier just to get in touch with a Pro, visit an AMP or develop a relationship with a stripper.

However, if you desire is to have develop an ongoing with the Hottie of your choice, then by all means plow ahead.

YMMV.

CL.Great suggestions. The time demand to cultivate some interest is too much unless you have unlimited funding. If you've got game, the Pro and AMP are easier to develop relationships. No training is required.

PhxFunLover
08-08-19, 17:18
Great suggestions. The time demand to cultivate some interest is too much unless you have unlimited funding. If you've got game, the Pro and AMP are easier to develop relationships. No training is required.Its the time consumption that was the reason I stopped. Just takes too much effort and I am more of an impulse, "hmm, I am horny lets see who's available" type anyways.

Old20
08-09-19, 09:29
Link no longer works.https://www.seeking.com/member/b015b139-440c-4498-8ff8-6c7c61176993

KcKennedy
09-08-19, 19:54
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Let me explain something to you. When you are looking to make a financial arrangement with a guy you are still an escort. You're simply reducing the number of clients, you aren't changing the business model.

The VAST majority of the chicks on ALL the "Arrangement" sites will fuck anybody who can pay the fee. They are escorts, it's just that everybody kind of pretends they aren't.

A2

Desert Rat
11-05-19, 01:51
Its the time consumption that was the reason I stopped. Just takes too much effort and I am more of an impulse, "hmm, I am horny lets see who's available" type anyways.I find SE not only a huge waste of time but the expectations of these girls is amazing. Most of them want thousands of dollars a month and some even say they will not have sex with you. There is also the large amount of fake profiles that have one picture and one line to pad the number of available women.

Crazie
11-08-19, 01:02
I find SE not only a huge waste of time but the expectations of these girls is amazing. Most of them want thousands of dollars a month and some even say they will not have sex with you. There is also the large amount of fake profiles that have one picture and one line to pad the number of available women.Had one woman wanted a grand to hook up, or another one wanted way more than $100 to help pay for school and when informed her I wanted to hook up, she was no that sounds like prostitution. Waste of time.

PhxFunLover
11-14-19, 20:17
When SA first came out it wasn't that bad, it was more expensive and time consuming than backpage. It was also nice because it wasn't full of pros. There were plenty wanting unrealistic amounts but there were also a bunch settling for high end escort prices (I never found anything for less than that and eventually quit because the occasional pro and using my vacation time for binging in other countries were its cheap and legal has been a far better return on investment.

Desert Rat
12-07-19, 02:16
I was contacted by a cute latina on SA who was 21 years old. Things were moving along nicely until she admitted she gave birth to three children and is caring for them. How in the hell can she go out and fuck someone with three kids to watch? Another fall down the rabbit hole on SA.

Peacekeeper
12-09-19, 16:35
When SA first came out it wasn't that bad, it was more expensive and time consuming than backpage. It was also nice because it wasn't full of pros. There were plenty wanting unrealistic amounts but there were also a bunch settling for high end escort prices (I never found anything for less than that and eventually quit because the occasional pro and using my vacation time for binging in other countries were its cheap and legal has been a far better return on investment.I completely agree with you. These girls are asking ridiculous prices and they're not even that great looking. Is it because of the few sugar daddies out there who are ruined with high prices for these ladies? Wish we all wouldn't budge and stick with one price that way they will eventually come down to earth.

Desert Rat
12-12-19, 02:38
I completely agree with you. These girls are asking ridiculous prices and they're not even that great looking. Is it because of the few sugar daddies out there who are ruined with high prices for these ladies? Wish we all wouldn't budge and stick with one price that way they will eventually come down to earth.I think the media perpetuates a stereotype of super rich guys buying girls condos and cars. The reality is more like casual fucking for a few hundred bucks.

PhxFunLover
12-14-19, 22:45
I think the media perpetuates a stereotype of super rich guys buying girls condos and cars. The reality is more like casual fucking for a few hundred bucks.Its funny because in other countries (asian mostly) the type of arrangement we all seek on SA has existed for a while and its usually cheaper than market rate for escorts or the price the same. There are even forums dedicated to reviewing the women. Haven't seen anything like that grow here just the price tag the women want seems to be growing.

Peacekeeper
02-17-20, 18:09
Just curious. For those gentlemen that goes on this site. Do you gentlemen pay $500 per meet with these ladies? It seem abit outrageous to me some of these girls are asking. Is this the norm now? Or maybe because I'm out of the loop.

NovaKane
02-17-20, 22:27
Just curious. For those gentlemen that goes on this site. Do you gentlemen pay $500 per meet with these ladies? It seem abit outrageous to me some of these girls are asking. Is this the norm now? Or maybe because I'm out of the loop.I too have found the initial quote to be 400-600. I always offer half of what they start with. I have had good success with 2 so far, none worth keeping around but a fun time. There are also plenty of time wasters and flakes. It has always been a lot of effort to find the gem, just keep asking.

Selasorp
02-18-20, 06:51
Just curious. For those gentlemen that goes on this site. Do you gentlemen pay $500 per meet with these ladies? It seem abit outrageous to me some of these girls are asking. Is this the norm now? Or maybe because I'm out of the loop.I go with WYP and have better luck for a lot less, even used social media to set up meets with many of them outside of the site.

FordsOnly
02-18-20, 09:46
Just curious. For those gentlemen that goes on this site. Do you gentlemen pay $500 per meet with these ladies? It seem abit outrageous to me some of these girls are asking. Is this the norm now? Or maybe because I'm out of the loop.I always counter with $200 - A good percentage of them will just agree, even after asking for much higher to start.

VanAlden
02-19-20, 15:21
I go with WYP and have better luck for a lot less, even used social media to set up meets with many of them outside of the site.Sorry guys. New to this location. What is WYP? You can PM me if you prefer.

Thanks.

AzskyDiver
02-19-20, 15:38
Sorry guys. New to this location. What is WYP? You can PM me if you prefer.

Thanks.Whats your price.

Paradigum
05-03-20, 03:19
Sooooo. I love using seeking for travel destinations. I travel a lot for work to begin with thus I am 'in town anyways' however I use the same pattern for other locations that seem like they are hotbeds on seeking as I can normally fill my evenings. Or more exactly fill someone during the evenings.

Phoenix has been on my radar for a while as there seems like a decent number of SB's on the site. Yet almost no reports here?

Are there other sites in the Phoenix area I am not aware of? I know this may violate some forum decorum however it is one of simple curiosity as normally a city with a decently sized SB population has a forum discussing it. .

Feel free to PM if preferred.

Dsprdo
05-03-20, 13:56
Phoenix has been on my radar for a while as there seems like a decent number of SB's on the site. Yet almost no reports here?
I have been using SA in PHX on and off for about 5 years. Seems like it is feast or famine, though in the last couple of years the girls have gotten a lot more mercenary than they were at first as this has become mainstreamed. The hot ASU girls are looking for 400 and up, I pass on that. You can still find a decent experience at the 200 price point but it takes some work.

PhxFunLover
05-05-20, 11:34
Phoenix has been on my radar for a while as there seems like a decent number of SB's on the site. Yet almost no reports here?
For this forum the Phoenix area is pretty dead for SB intel sharing. There have been a few reports of success and tips but we all seem to keep specific profiles secret. There are plenty of SBs in our area and many can find good arrangements but we also have a pretty high GPS problem in the area too, at least from my experience. The Phoenix part of the forum is pretty dead compared to others in general as well not just the SBs. The area isn't the friendliest for the hobby so a lot of us are extra cautious. I myself pretty much stopped mostly partaking in area because of the risks. I will say 200-400 will be average what you can find.

Simplewishes
05-08-20, 14:07
I am relatively new to the area and found success. But of course there are a lot of girls waiting for their dotcom millionaire. And now using covid as an excuse to push their onlyfans or online arrangements.

Please can you tip off regarding the risks? I can't think of many other than the obvious ones?

Well except for this one who said when I asked about substances, like casually, I only do cocaine in weekends. Lmao.


For this forum the Phoenix area is pretty dead for SB intel sharing. There have been a few reports of success and tips but we all seem to keep specific profiles secret. There are plenty of SBs in our area and many can find good arrangements but we also have a pretty high GPS problem in the area too, at least from my experience. The Phoenix part of the forum is pretty dead compared to others in general as well not just the SBs. The area isn't the friendliest for the hobby so a lot of us are extra cautious. I myself pretty much stopped mostly partaking in area because of the risks. I will say 200-400 will be average what you can find.

Klarity
07-11-20, 00:28
Does anybody have any recommendation for a nice 4-star in town? My SB and I went to Hotel Valley Ho, in Scottsdale last time, but I want to try something different next time. Big plus for discrete places for risky play.

PhxFunLover
07-11-20, 16:52
Does anybody have any recommendation for a nice 4-star in town? My SB and I went to Hotel Valley Ho, in Scottsdale last time, but I want to try something different next time. Big plus for discrete places for risky play.The Arizona Grand isn't too bad but not really near anything like what you find in the Scottsdale or Biltmore areas.

Shinshi86
07-21-20, 02:02
I'm originally from Maryland, but I was recently in town and figured I'd share my experiences from the last several weeks with you Arizonans. Holy shit, really wasn't expecting the SB scene to be so dead in such a major city! But then again, I guess it sorta makes sense given how COVID is really ravaging the state more than others. Anyways, without further ado:

Dakotajameslove (https://www.seeking.com/member/69597bf5-a6fb-46f7-a1d0-54ca52bc2440) = Her profile claims that she lives in both LA and Phoenix. Not sure if that's true or not (or if she's as pictured). She reached out to me asking to meet that very same night, but I was with preoccupied with friends at the time. After that, we never could make a meet work for both of us before I left AZ.

BaeLovesBoys (https://www.seeking.com/member/ad447b41-1522-4613-84a6-00bb04c9bec1) = We messaged a few times, but unfortunately she was several hours away from Phoenix at that time and wouldn't return until the day I myself was leaving. Pretty detailed profile and got the sense she seemed genuine. Very easy to talk to.

Lajefaasexy (https://www.seeking.com/member/5e44840f-4487-42f9-b95b-4ddee3edbbf0) = She responded with one small message and hadn't logged back on before I left. Does seem to be high maintenance as her profile claims, but it wouldn't matter to me if she indeed looks as pictured. A shame it didn't work out.

Peabodybaby69 (https://www.seeking.com/member/53d558a8-76af-4de7-a333-f9003d45587d) = Another one in which several messages were exchanged. She seemed genuine, interested in meeting, and totally DTF. But her communication on SA was unfortunately sporadic and we couldn't meet on the one day I was available. My recommendation? Reach out to her in advance, have a plan, and cross your fingers.

AthenaaMarie (https://www.seeking.com/member/fdc24d35-8c50-4d64-aecd-32c9a5cebe48) = This one kinda irritated me a little as we actually had a M&G scheduled. She asked for 500 PPM, which is far more than what I'm usually okay with for an amateur / SB; however, the chat leading up to our supposed meet had me sold that there was enormous fun potential. We exchanged numbers, then agreed to meet at an outdoor cafe closer to her at noon. If all went well, we would've gone back to my hotel where I'd then have paid up (not into that PBM bullshit). On the day of, she asked me to push back our lunch date to around dinner time. No problem. I then texted her that I was on my way and waited for an hour. During that wait, I enjoyed some reasonably priced drinks and a fantastic dinner while enjoying the views from that restaurant's back patio. So it wasn't a complete waste of time and I now know to look that place up the next time I'm in town. Sooooooo yeah, feel free to make plans with this one. But don't bank on her communication skills or keeping her word.

The following profiles just never responded to any messages. Could be that I'm not their type, or maybe they prefer a more long-term SD, or possibly they don't even want a FWB, or maybe they're inundated with messages. Who knows? Best of luck out there, AZ!

Secretlove19 (https://www.seeking.com/member/f39605a0-b653-4743-9c4b-4d443656b37f).

Bebenatalie (https://www.seeking.com/member/222830f2-5a4b-4d78-939f-0efc832f982e).

Briseisss0 (https://www.seeking.com/member/7e7f9919-124f-45f4-b89e-50810b9ad1b3).

Funinthesun555 (https://www.seeking.com/member/752dadbc-3af8-4fc8-b552-6d50ba0bd305).

Babyyy3337 (https://www.seeking.com/member/4e39027d-6cb5-4660-b7ff-d4c3751f9425).

Dsprdo
07-21-20, 16:29
I'm originally from Maryland, but I was recently in town and figured I'd share my experiences from the last several weeks with you Arizonans. I live here and am on SA all the time. It is very hit ot moss and lots of flakes. My limit is about 200 which a lot of girls won't repsond to. It taks some work but I still pull a lot off of SA. Of the ones you mentioned:

Peabodybaby69 - supposed to see her tomorrow.

AthenaaMarie. Messaged, no response.

Bebenatalie. Never responded to me either.

Funinthesun555 - really hot, haven't messaged her because she probably has GPS. Going to have to give it a shot anyway.

Babyyy3337 - just messaged her yesterday, no response so far.

DrPoon
07-22-20, 04:40
Can you send me Peabody's number I don't have any credits.


I live here and am on SA all the time. It is very hit ot moss and lots of flakes. My limit is about 200 which a lot of girls won't repsond to. It taks some work but I still pull a lot off of SA. Of the ones you mentioned:

Peabodybaby69 - supposed to see her tomorrow.

AthenaaMarie. Messaged, no response.

Bebenatalie. Never responded to me either.

Funinthesun555 - really hot, haven't messaged her because she probably has GPS. Going to have to give it a shot anyway.

Babyyy3337 - just messaged her yesterday, no response so far.

Klarity
01-24-21, 06:26
I live here and am on SA all the time. It is very hit ot moss and lots of flakes. My limit is about 200 which a lot of girls won't repsond to. It taks some work but I still pull a lot off of SA.Ain't that the truth. Opening with a 200-300 per meet offer has maybe a 50/50 success rate, but up it to 400-500 and most of them will bite. I have one long-term SB now, who could be a body double for Krystal Boyd / Angelica Ebbi. And while I'm aware of GPS, she's worth every dime.

WiseTraveler
01-30-21, 17:16
Ain't that the truth. Opening with a 200-300 per meet offer has maybe a 50/50 success rate, but up it to 400-500 and most of them will bite. I have one long-term SB now, who could be a body double for Krystal Boyd / Angelica Ebbi. And while I'm aware of GPS, she's worth every dime.It's far easier to find <$300 on Secret Benefits. While there are far more 9's and 10's on SA, you can find 6-8's on SB for $150-300, especially if you like more GND / curvy girls. They also assume everything is PPM rather than asking for monthly allowances.

I haven't even flown in yet and have two SBs lined up at $200 and they'll drive to me.

The downside is SB uses a weird token charge approach. You have to buy 200/500/1000 tokens and then you pay 10 tokens for first messages ($3. 50-5/ per new first message). You can also use them to see hidden pics, read receipts and other dumb shit but don't. You will get a lot of messages but don't pay to read them unless you would have reached out to the girl first anyways. Many girls fucking spam 'heyyyyy' or 'I'm a great girl and want to get to know you' messages to every guy to play the odds. They don't even read your profile.

*only pay tokens to chat with your top pics*.

JChoi
01-31-21, 23:18
It's far easier to find <$300 on Secret Benefits. While there are far more 9's and 10's on SA, you can find 6-8's on SB for $150-300, especially if you like more GND / curvy girls. They also assume everything is PPM rather than asking for monthly allowances.

I haven't even flown in yet and have two SBs lined up at $200 and they'll drive to me.

The downside is SB uses a weird token charge approach. You have to buy 200/500/1000 tokens and then you pay 10 tokens for first messages ($3. 50-5/ per new first message). You can also use them to see hidden pics, read receipts and other dumb shit but don't. You will get a lot of messages but don't pay to read them unless you would have reached out to the girl first anyways. Many girls fucking spam 'heyyyyy' or 'I'm a great girl and want to get to know you' messages to every guy to play the odds. They don't even read your profile.

*only pay tokens to chat with your top pics*.Very accurate with SB. I've had success on there in the past but it was getting too costly to pay for GPS. I did have a few good utr's prior to COVID. Stay safe why'all.

DrPotato
02-09-21, 14:37
I used SA when I first moved to Florida 5 years ago and I was a fucking rock star. I had to beat the girls off with a stick, I couldn't keep up. I had 4-5 girls trying to hook up with me every night and these chicks would come hang out and we'd spend the entire night fucking and they'd make me breakfast in the morning, some chicks would stay over for days and never even ask for a dime. I'd buy these chicks cigarettes weed and dinner and they were totally cool with it. It was an amazing time, till I got stupid and got a girlfriend from there that lasted 3. 5 years. Big mistake. Never ever cohabitate with a female.

Now I tried SA last week here, and it was horrible. The chicks are fucking fat now and gross, or straight up by the hour chicks, and I don't go to SA for by the hour chicks. Talked to one chick we were going to meet up for coffee (it's a quick and easy way to bug out in 10 min if the chicks a pig or whatever, and then she asks me to cashapp her money to "get dinner for her kids". First off, I told her, that was so unclassy to ask a dude you never met before for money to feed your kids. I don't want to hear about your little mistakes, nor am I going to feed them or your boyfriend (girls will order extra food to wrap up and take home, I deny them that when they try that shit). And I'm not sending you any money. She persisted again oh my kids have nothing to eat. Well then you have failed as a parent. I lost ALL interest in her by then. And of course I just kept getting hit up by actual by the hour who oars, even though my profile said that ain't my thing. These bitches can't read and are dumb as rocks. I am meeting one tonight. She's been wanting to meet up with me real bad but cause of my hernia I can't bang really so she's making brownies going to smoke a blunt and she's giving me a massage.

Oh and I must have pissed off one of the hookers because one day I tried to log into my SA account and it said I was permanently banned for soliciting prostitution. What the fuck. No way to even dispute it, see the proof, etc, nothing. And I just created the account like 3 days before for $60. No refund.

I signed up for SB last night and geez that site is worse, gross chicks and this whole credits system is fucking stupid a waste of $60 I didn't know how dumb it was, have to pay to read or send a message, to view hidden pics, fucking nickel and dime you.

Desert Rat
02-13-21, 15:45
Oh and I must have pissed off one of the hookers because one day I tried to log into my SA account and it said I was permanently banned for soliciting prostitution. What the fuck. No way to even dispute it, see the proof, etc, nothing. And I just created the account like 3 days before for $60. No refund.What a bunch of bullshit. The whole site is for paying younger women to fuck you. Now it is full of spam and old ladies. Once they shortened their site name to just seeking now it is filled with ladies thinking it is Eharmony. Times are tough.

PhillUponThese
02-14-21, 23:43
Just contact customer support and tell them it was a simple misunderstanding-my buddy just had the same thing happen to him.


What a bunch of bullshit. The whole site is for paying younger women to fuck you. Now it is full of spam and old ladies. Once they shortened their site name to just seeking now it is filled with ladies thinking it is Eharmony. Times are tough.

Fendter
03-01-21, 01:12
Very accurate with SB. I've had success on there in the past but it was getting too costly to pay for GPS. I did have a few good utr's prior to COVID. Stay safe why'all.I tried to sign up for SB but it seems they don't allow gmail addresses. Anyone know of a work around?

JChoi
03-01-21, 11:51
I tried to sign up for SB but it seems they don't allow gmail addresses. Anyone know of a work around?Try another email. ProtonMail.com is as good as it gets.

WiseTraveler
03-01-21, 12:55
Try another email. ProtonMail.com is as good as it gets.Big second for protonmail. I use it for sugar and cuddle sites and actually feel far more comfortable with providers who use it. It's actually been a good icebreaker in a 'you use protonmail too?' way since it shows they at least have some idea of opsec.

Using gmail or google #s is not a good idea unless you have 100% completely separate physical devices such as a burner phone. If you log into your second gmail account even once on a PC or phone, Google will tie it to your other account, if not officially, then often as an option (like autofill). This is even worse if you share a PC or device (iPad, etc.) since your spouse could be shopping and see 'LovesAsianTits@gmail.com' as a username or email option. I heard of one guy who's second gmail address showed as an option on their new SMART TV, probably because they selected (or didn't deselect) sync across devices. Unless you really know what you are doing, keep #s and emails 100% separate.

WiseTraveler
03-01-21, 13:03
What a bunch of bullshit. The whole site is for paying younger women to fuck you. Now it is full of spam and old ladies. Once they shortened their site name to just seeking now it is filled with ladies thinking it is Eharmony. Times are tough.Consider approaching the sites differently. With SecretBenefits you can be more direct and start discussing $ / PPM on the site chat without getting banned, though I expect that to change once the pearl clutching puritans / politicians up for reelection need an easy target. Seeking is run by a total ahole and wildly inconsistent admins. Don't expect consistency or fairness. They will ban dudes for almost nothing using keyword searches, for example, if you even say, "I won't treat you like a hooker. I'll treat you with respect and always follow our arrangement. " you could get banned just because of the word 'hooker'. Yeah, you can try to appeal but you also could get banned if a SB says you offered her $ for sex.

Keep it simple. Never talk arrangements or specifics on the seeking site. Gauge potential compatibility only and then shift to text, KiK, whatever. If they won't do that, move on unless you really do want to set up an actual monthly allowance arrangement. You can use a generic "Due to COVID my schedule varies so I really need flexibility. I'm willing to work with you. If you are interested, let's chat more at <burner #.

If you come in with an 'I'm just paying $ for pussy' attitude, however accurate, you'll pay more for less and likely get banned sooner.

DannySam
05-25-21, 10:52
Consider approaching the sites differently. With SecretBenefits you can be more direct and start discussing $ / PPM on the site chat without getting banned, though I expect that to change once the pearl clutching puritans / politicians up for reelection need an easy target. Seeking is run by a total ahole and wildly inconsistent admins. Don't expect consistency or fairness. They will ban dudes for almost nothing using keyword searches, for example, if you even say, "I won't treat you like a hooker. I'll treat you with respect and always follow our arrangement. " you could get banned just because of the word 'hooker'. Yeah, you can try to appeal but you also could get banned if a SB says you offered her $ for sex.

Keep it simple. Never talk arrangements or specifics on the seeking site. Gauge potential compatibility only and then shift to text, KiK, whatever. If they won't do that, move on unless you really do want to set up an actual monthly allowance arrangement. You can use a generic "Due to COVID my schedule varies so I really need flexibility. I'm willing to work with you. If you are interested, let's chat more at <burner #.

If you come in with an 'I'm just paying $ for pussy' attitude, however accurate, you'll pay more for less and likely get banned sooner.Just created the account in SB. Not sure about the worth. Can someone suggest if this is ok to pay for credits. Are those girls real deal? Everyone / every photos seem to be legit though. What's the average $ expected to be spent to hangout with one in SB? Any advice?

JChoi
05-26-21, 01:52
Just created the account in SB. Not sure about the worth. Can someone suggest if this is ok to pay for credits. Are those girls real deal? Everyone / every photos seem to be legit though. What's the average $ expected to be spent to hangout with one in SB? Any advice?I've had 1-2 success rates out of the 900 $ I spent maybe more. Lots are bots and lots are just platonic or tire kickers. IMO you can weed the profiles out and then trim down the fat from.

There.

DannySam
05-27-21, 17:31
I've had 1-2 success rates out of the 900 $ I spent maybe more. Lots are bots and lots are just platonic or tire kickers. IMO you can weed the profiles out and then trim down the fat from.

There.Thanks! Is there any other website to try for better success rate than SB?

JChoi
05-27-21, 19:47
Thanks! Is there any other website to try for better success rate than SB?I had success with seeking arraignments seeking com now. But I heard they changed as well. Same with wyP. What's your price.

Good luck boss and hopefully you find some unicorns that you'd like to share one day.

SpaSearcher
08-15-21, 13:39
I decided to try out a month of seeking, haven't been on it since I moved out here. Spoke to a few girls and holy shit the prices are nuts here. These girls are wanting 300-500 per meet, fuck that. I miss back home in ohio I could get college girls all week for a 200 or less. Between these prices and the sub par AMP experience in the city I may just retire from the hobby unless I travel.

WiseTraveler
08-16-21, 15:53
I decided to try out a month of seeking, haven't been on it since I moved out here. Spoke to a few girls and holy shit the prices are nuts here. These girls are wanting 300-500 per meet, fuck that. I miss back home in ohio I could get college girls all week for a 200 or less. Between these prices and the sub par AMP experience in the city I may just retire from the hobby unless I travel.It's not just Phoenix. I've heard similar stories across metro areas, with Miami, NY, SF being double that. There are guys with FU money willing to pay just to meet. The days of getting those 8-9's at $200-300 are done. FWIW, I have consistent luck more on Secret Benefits (but did also find some gems on Seeking). SB is a different model and you can get nickel-dimed to zero credits if you don't know what you are doing. I've posted a few guides across different cities but basically:

1. Buy 1,000 credits, set up your profile, search parameters and start searching. I don't favorite on the site since it will alert them but simply have a google sheets page where I post pot SB links with notes.

2. Don't open messages from SBs unless you would have messaged them anyways. This is critical. There are so many that spam HEYYYYYYYY messages to every pot SD and never check again.

3. Craft a good intro message and adjust for their pics or profiles. This isn't as important as it is on seeking but it helps.

4. Chat enough to confirm potential compatibility: Schedules, basic expectations, not psycho.

5. Move to text, Kik / whatever and talk frequency, activities, $. NEVER talk $ or activities (especially PPM) on Seeking. I avoid doing on Secret Benefits just to be safe.

6. SB site the default is PPM. I find enough 6-7's (they are 7-8's to me) who are happy with $200 + cover hotel. If you want to hang out, play house, go multiple rounds over 3+ hours, you may have to pay more. I still get a full GFE 60-90 min with about anything but anal for $200 + hotel.

Note: The flake factor is still high. You'll have some turnover but you also might message in the morning and be filling her up that afternoon. You have to simply play the odds and keep perspective. Default to kindness and making a connection. You will stand out for that. If your comms are basic, pretty much acting like they are hookers, you'll have worse results and pay more but you do you.

JChoi
08-17-21, 01:05
I decided to try out a month of seeking, haven't been on it since I moved out here. Spoke to a few girls and holy shit the prices are nuts here. These girls are wanting 300-500 per meet, fuck that. I miss back home in ohio I could get college girls all week for a 200 or less. Between these prices and the sub par AMP experience in the city I may just retire from the hobby unless I travel.I have had one gem utr on sb and seeking over the last 2-3 years. The years prior it was freaking awesome but you're right. GPS and also People with FU money makes it very hard for us normal mongers anyways. Maybe it's time for me to buy some credits and start the hunt. Big part of me is saying save your money dummie for a good GFE session.

SpaSearcher
08-18-21, 18:00
It's not just Phoenix. I've heard similar stories across metro areas, with Miami, NY, SF being double that. There are guys with FU money willing to pay just to meet. The days of getting those 8-9's at $200-300 are done. FWIW, I have consistent luck more on Secret Benefits (but did also find some gems on Seeking). SB is a different model and you can get nickel-dimed to zero credits if you don't know what you are doing. I've posted a few guides across different cities but basically:

1. Buy 1,000 credits, set up your profile, search parameters and start searching. I don't favorite on the site since it will alert them but simply have a google sheets page where I post pot SB links with notes.

2. Don't open messages from SBs unless you would have messaged them anyways. This is critical. There are so many that spam HEYYYYYYYY messages to every pot SD and never check again.

3. Craft a good intro message and adjust for their pics or profiles. This isn't as important as it is on seeking but it helps.

4. Chat enough to confirm potential compatibility: Schedules, basic expectations, not psycho.

5. Move to text, Kik / whatever and talk frequency, activities, $. NEVER talk $ or activities (especially PPM) on Seeking. I avoid doing on Secret Benefits just to be safe.

6. SB site the default is PPM. I find enough 6-7's (they are 7-8's to me) who are happy with $200 + cover hotel. If you want to hang out, play house, go multiple rounds over 3+ hours, you may have to pay more. I still get a full GFE 60-90 min with about anything but anal for $200 + hotel.

Note: The flake factor is still high. You'll have some turnover but you also might message in the morning and be filling her up that afternoon. You have to simply play the odds and keep perspective. Default to kindness and making a connection. You will stand out for that. If your comms are basic, pretty much acting like they are hookers, you'll have worse results and pay more but you do you.I've looked into SB but I don't feel like wasting my money on credits when I know most of the interactions are going to be endless chatting then ghosting like on seeking. I may just save my moey and just have a few high dollar girls throughout the year.

Jim Stark
10-04-21, 22:26
I saw or talked to a few girls during September so I thought I'd make a report and resurrect this dead thread. These are all just fantasies, of course.

Sassyp94: great thick body, perfectly proportioned. Decent face. She was nice and agreeable in bed, but not very good. I wouldn't see her again $400.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f505ca9f-fd4b-4a64-8e6d-d6d362d45265 Carly (Vegas girl): this girl was a lot of fun. Super pretty and tall and thick, big fan of her body, I loved it. Paid a little extra for BB (but I'm the only guy she's ever done that with. LOL) $600 the only negative was that she was recently in a car accident and couldn't ride. I'll see her again next time I'm in town.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4c9eaa8b-75ac-4693-8414-92cda138d8e1 Asked for 3 k per month, passed.

Theycallmepink. Did a M&G and she was super cool and hot, just my style, but then ghosted, so nothing to report, but if anyone has seen her, I would love the juicy details.

https://members.seeking.com/member/bb0bec08-358c-4bb1-b920-a2b3eb519eae Super hot and cool. Amazing boobs that defy gravity. 400.

Let's get this thread going again guys!

Scotty8783
10-05-21, 14:41
I saw or talked to a few girls during September so I thought I'd make a report and resurrect this dead thread. These are all just fantasies, of course.

Sassyp94: great thick body, perfectly proportioned. Decent face. She was nice and agreeable in bed, but not very good. I wouldn't see her again $400.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f505ca9f-fd4b-4a64-8e6d-d6d362d45265 Carly (Vegas girl): this girl was a lot of fun. Super pretty and tall and thick, big fan of her body, I loved it. Paid a little extra for BB (but I'm the only guy she's ever done that with. LOL) $600 the only negative was that she was recently in a car accident and couldn't ride. I'll see her again next time I'm in town.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4c9eaa8b-75ac-4693-8414-92cda138d8e1 Asked for 3 k per month, passed.

Theycallmepink. Did a M&G and she was super cool and hot, just my style, but then ghosted, so nothing to report, but if anyone has seen her, I would love the juicy details.

https://members.seeking.com/member/bb0bec08-358c-4bb1-b920-a2b3eb519eae Super hot and cool. Amazing boobs that defy gravity. 400.

Let's get this thread going again guys!Hey Jim, thanks for the info. How was that last girl with the boobs that defy gravity? You said 400 - did she do bare? How long was that for? I'm heading to Phx Oct 7-11 from Los Angeles and have a ton of Meet and Greets lined up. I'll post info as I do the Meet and Greets and try to contribute to this Phx board.

Desert Rat
10-05-21, 17:07
https://members.seeking.com/member/f505ca9f-fd4b-4a64-8e6d-d6d362d45265 Carly (Vegas girl): this girl was a lot of fun. Super pretty and tall and thick, big fan of her body, I loved it. Paid a little extra for BB (but I'm the only guy she's ever done that with. LOL) $600 the only negative was that she was recently in a car accident and couldn't ride. I'll see her again next time I'm in town.

https://members.seeking.com/member/bb0bec08-358c-4bb1-b920-a2b3eb519eae Super hot and cool. Amazing boobs that defy gravity. 400.

Let's get this thread going again guys!Carly (Vegas girl) her ad is already down but amazing boobs is up so I sent her a message. I appreciate your posting. Thank you kindly, sir.

Jim Stark
10-05-21, 21:00
Hey Jim, thanks for the info. How was that last girl with the boobs that defy gravity? You said 400 - did she do bare? How long was that for? I'm heading to Phx Oct 7-11 from Los Angeles and have a ton of Meet and Greets lined up. I'll post info as I do the Meet and Greets and try to contribute to this Phx board.Yes, it was 400 bare. I didn't mention anything before hand, I just didn't bring condoms. She asked if I had one, I said no, she said ok.

I've found just not showing up with condoms works way better than asking if you have to wear one. If they bring it up ahead of time, that's where I'll start negotiating payment for it.

Peacekeeper
11-27-21, 22:58
Hello fellas.

My account was banned due to inappropriate use of language during chat. I was later able to open and used a prepaid credit card but now it said I can't used prepaid card any longer. Is there anyone who can help me find a way to log back in? TIA.

Vivid Dream
11-29-21, 18:10
Hello fellas.

My account was banned due to inappropriate use of language during chat. I was later able to open and used a prepaid credit card but now it said I can't used prepaid card any longer. Is there anyone who can help me find a way to log back in? TIA.Check out Richmond VA location for this site for confirmed methods to reconnect. It's the gold standard.

Peacekeeper
12-02-21, 15:27
I just got back on the site. I've only been away for a few months. Why are the girls asking 5 to 750 per meet now a day and half are chunky. Is anyone else experiencing the same situation?

Vivid Dream
12-02-21, 17:43
I just got back on the site. I've only been away for a few months. Why are the girls asking 5 to 750 per meet now a day and half are chunky. Is anyone else experiencing the same situation?When compared with the general website rates of questionable quality and compare the quality of some SB, the value may be worth the higher cost. The value to me does not reach this price point.

JChoi
12-03-21, 00:44
I just got back on the site. I've only been away for a few months. Why are the girls asking 5 to 750 per meet now a day and half are chunky. Is anyone else experiencing the same situation?All those sites are money credit eating machines. They have fake profiles message you and never respond back.

Peacekeeper
12-03-21, 14:36
When compared with the general website rates of questionable quality and compare the quality of some SB, the value may be worth the higher cost. The value to me does not reach this price point.I understand you get what you paid for but this seem to be getting abit ridiculous. Does anyone have any other sites that I can try?

Crazie
12-04-21, 22:48
All those sites are money credit eating machines. They have fake profiles message you and never respond back.Anyone have good experience with Secret Benefits? I've got a ton of messages and profile views but I've keep my picture blurred. I expected the opposite by keeping my picture hidden like that. And got no response from a couple of twenty somethings who messaged me first. Had one who did reply back who I contacted first but she was not much for engagement in conversation, and did not respond back when I tried to set up a meet up for last night.

Crazie
12-05-21, 12:43
Anyone meet her? She wants $400. Tried to set up a meet up somewhere public on Friday to make sure pictures are real and current but got ghosted until this morning. She said she could host today, she was open to a ppm or an arrangement. Decided not to take the plunge at that price as experienced in the past the women being much heavier.

DrPoon
12-05-21, 19:39
Anyone meet her? She wants $400. Tried to set up a meet up somewhere public on Friday to make sure pictures are real and current but got ghosted until this morning. She said she could host today, she was open to a ppm or an arrangement. Decided not to take the plunge at that price as experienced in the past the women being much heavier.They need more money due to the cost of food increasing. It is no longer possible to get $1 cheeseburgers at Burger King. Plus the 1/2 pound bean and cheese burritos at Del Taco have significantly shrunk in portion size more like a 1/4 pound burrito for about 40 cents more thus requiring ordering three of said burritos instead of two.

JChoi
12-05-21, 21:35
Anyone have good experience with Secret Benefits? I've got a ton of messages and profile views but I've keep my picture blurred. I expected the opposite by keeping my picture hidden like that. And got no response from a couple of twenty somethings who messaged me first. Had one who did reply back who I contacted first but she was not much for engagement in conversation, and did not respond back when I tried to set up a meet up for last night.I've had like 2 -3 solid meetups over the course of 2 years and they started with 500 then 400 then 300. First time I've ever paid 300 anywhere and it was both BBFS with cream pies and all that but it was not my jazzz as they kept messaging and asking for meets after that. Some even lowered their gps but I ended up getting a new burner anyway. Haven't been active as much and blocked them shortly after. Haven't had any success as of the last 4-5 months.

WiseTraveler
12-12-21, 12:40
I've had like 2 -3 solid meetups over the course of 2 years and they started with 500 then 400 then 300. First time I've ever paid 300 anywhere and it was both BBFS with cream pies and all that but it was not my jazzz as they kept messaging and asking for meets after that. Some even lowered their gps but I ended up getting a new burner anyway. Haven't been active as much and blocked them shortly after. Haven't had any success as of the last 4-5 months.I've had decent luck with Secret Benefits, especially when traveling. Seeking SBs appear to have either found a forum, blog, or TikTok that's telling them to aim for $300 just to meet and then they'll discuss additional $ after that. Fuck that. Enough idiot SDs are paying that it's driving the GPS market up. For a true 9 or 10 (and yeah, it's subjective) I could see a daddy warbucks pay to meet but even 6-7's are demanding $ up front. On the SB site, PPM is the norm so they usually get shut down if they try to get $ up front. It's a numbers game. Chat up 20 potentials, get #s for 8-10, suggest $200-300 PPM for 4-5 of them with distance, hosting, length, activities being variables. If you want 2-3 rounds, expect to pay $400+. If you're a one and done like me most times, you can bargain for less. The tokens thing is a pain but I'll complain every once in a while that I just wasted 500 tokens with very little response and have been topped up for nothing. (Legit complaints and detailed how I customize messages, am always respectful, etc.).

From a pure time perspective, it's probably not worth it for financially independent SDs. Sure I can find 2-3 SBs who will agree to $200 but there's a higher chance of being flaked on / ghosted, or having drama / delays. Seeking has 10 x the pool and a higher average attractiveness for active SBs but it's like trying to pick up women on Miami Beach vs. Hollywood Beach in Florida. On Miami beach you better be dressed up and ready to spend. On Hollywood Beach, you better check for track marks and not carry too much cash or jewelry.

I like the hunt and have had my absolute best experiences at the $200 range. With one solid 8-8. 5 24 yr old in Phx GFE / all bare for 2 hours for $200. I've also had shit shows, like one in Mpls who I learned had her toddler in the next room with her mom, food / toys all over the floor, the heat cranked to 90. If I had more $, I'd probably stick to TER / P411 reviewed providers and find a solid rotation of SBs at the $400 range but I like a balance of frequency / variety and 'attractive enough'.

JChoi
12-13-21, 00:10
I've had decent luck with Secret Benefits, especially when traveling. Seeking SBs appear to have either found a forum, blog, or TikTok that's telling them to aim for $300 just to meet and then they'll discuss additional $ after that. Fuck that. Enough idiot SDs are paying that it's driving the GPS market up. For a true 9 or 10 (and yeah, it's subjective) I could see a daddy warbucks pay to meet but even 6-7's are demanding $ up front. On the SB site, PPM is the norm so they usually get shut down if they try to get $ up front. It's a numbers game. Chat up 20 potentials, get #s for 8-10, suggest $200-300 PPM for 4-5 of them with distance, hosting, length, activities being variables. If you want 2-3 rounds, expect to pay $400+. If you're a one and done like me most times, you can bargain for less. The tokens thing is a pain but I'll complain every once in a while that I just wasted 500 tokens with very little response and have been topped up for nothing. (Legit complaints and detailed how I customize messages, am always respectful, etc.).

From a pure time perspective, it's probably not worth it for financially independent SDs. Sure I can find 2-3 SBs who will agree to $200 but there's a higher chance of being flaked on / ghosted, or having drama / delays. Seeking has 10 x the pool and a higher average attractiveness for active SBs but it's like trying to pick up women on Miami Beach vs. Hollywood Beach in Florida. On Miami beach you better be dressed up and ready to spend. On Hollywood Beach, you better check for track marks and not carry too much cash or jewelry.

I like the hunt and have had my absolute best experiences at the $200 range. With one solid 8-8. 5 24 yr old in Phx GFE / all bare for 2 hours for $200. I've also had shit shows, like one in Mpls who I learned had her toddler in the next room with her mom, food / toys all over the floor, the heat cranked to 90. If I had more $, I'd probably stick to TER / P411 reviewed providers and find a solid rotation of SBs at the $400 range but I like a balance of frequency / variety and 'attractive enough'.Well said. Yeah you tend to find some rare gems every now and then but I concur. $200 is a good starting point and you may hit a few dimes every now and then. But expect 300 to start. I'm over it LOL! Be safe.

BumbaCloth
12-17-21, 12:07
I have a business trip in January to chandler, az was wondering what sugar scene is like out there? I read the previous post about ppm.

Which is better for meetup hotel or airbnb? Are there short stay hotels or dayuse hotels?

WiseTraveler
12-18-21, 12:37
I have a business trip in January to chandler, az was wondering what sugar scene is like out there? I read the previous post about ppm.

Which is better for meetup hotel or airbnb? Are there short stay hotels or dayuse hotels?I'll defer to local intel but I've traveled to the Phoenix / Chandler area several times and consider it one of the top metro areas in terms of SB availability / price / lack of GPS due to a mix of lower income areas and many universities plus a great diverse mix of looks / types.

LA, Vegas, Miami SBs want $500 just to meet IF they deign to reply at all. In AZ they seem more willing to meet and do PPM. You'll get flakes anywhere but if you clean up okay and avoid coming across as a pervy incel, it's a target rich environment. You might find someone attractive, willing, reasonable in terms of $, only to learn they're 50 min away, can't host and have different schedules, or get the dreaded "Can you send me $50 for gas / food?" Still, if you message a wide range of SBs and customize even a little, make it clear you're there for a week, you'll find some interested. Get their #/ offline chat info, check $ ranges, and you can build a good pipeline. It's a numbers / effort game but AZ has higher odds than most areas.

I'm heading to Phoenix in Feb and already found a cutie who just wants to be taken out for tacos / drinks and is staying <10 min from my Airbnb. I also have 3-4 backup options.

Re: Hotels and airbnb. Pick whatever place you normally would for travel. Hotels are more anonymous and convenient. Airbnbs can offer more space and make it feel less escort-why but read reviews and avoid places with 'the hosts dropped by often'the neighbors were so friendly' etc.

Protip: I sometimes message SBs about their profile with advice but not showing interest in meeting. Just things like 'I like your pics and you seem fun but your first paragraph sounds angry. It won't stop the time wasters but will put off potential matches. Best of luck. ' or 'You have great pics but I can't tell what you are looking for. Almost sounds like you want to just chat for money. Not judging but if you are open to more, remove the Platonic tag and change the wording. ' -- they usually appreciate the advice and attention and ask why I messaged if I'm in MN. I explain I'll be there soon so was starting to look at options so I have something to look forward to outside of work / visiting extended family. ' annnnnnd I'm in.

You can also check out cuddlecomfort.com and cuddlecompanions. Org. It really helps to have local intel so you might post on the AZ boards to see if anyone has recommendations. You can eliminate ones who mention boundaries / abide by terms of the site / strictly platonic. Look for 'open minded', 'skin to skin', 'help you relax' - it's no guarantee but if you like the hunt / variety / surprise, it can be fun. You still have to start slow and check comfort-levels at each stage but if you click, it can be awesome. More than half the time you can at least get a hand release. I've sometimes ended up banging all weekend. YMMV.

For Seeking and the cuddle sites, never discuss $ specifics or intimacy or you'll get banned. Only discuss those via offsite text / chat.

If you are with family/others and need a private place, try dayuse.com or the app. Can usually get a really nice hotel for 6+ hours during the morning or daytime for $80.

Dsprdo
12-23-21, 18:38
From SA:

https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/c78c958f-3b51-4351-ab11-b56ae990c2bf

Profile name is Shayshay, did a cash and dash on me. I know better, but let my guard down for an instant.

SquirtLover
03-17-22, 17:11
I saw or talked to a few girls during September so I thought I'd make a report and resurrect this dead thread. These are all just fantasies, of course.

Sassyp94: great thick body, perfectly proportioned. Decent face. She was nice and agreeable in bed, but not very good. I wouldn't see her again $400.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f505ca9f-fd4b-4a64-8e6d-d6d362d45265 Carly (Vegas girl): this girl was a lot of fun. Super pretty and tall and thick, big fan of her body, I loved it. Paid a little extra for BB (but I'm the only guy she's ever done that with. LOL) $600 the only negative was that she was recently in a car accident and couldn't ride. I'll see her again next time I'm in town.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4c9eaa8b-75ac-4693-8414-92cda138d8e1 Asked for 3 k per month, passed.

Theycallmepink. Did a M&G and she was super cool and hot, just my style, but then ghosted, so nothing to report, but if anyone has seen her, I would love the juicy details.Tried talk to Reese, no reply. OP are you still active in SA?

Bbw Lvr
03-19-22, 13:39
Newbie question. Are you putting a pic that includes your face on these sites? Or do you have a discrete pic and then you send a face pic when you message someone. Or do you never send one at all and just meet up?

Dsprdo
03-19-22, 20:26
Newbie question. Are you putting a pic that includes your face on these sites? Or do you have a discrete pic and then you send a face pic when you message someone. Or do you never send one at all and just meet up?I have a private pic that I share pretty freely. I am long since divorced so I am not all that concerned with security.

Bbw Lvr
03-20-22, 10:22
I have a private pic that I share pretty freely. I am long since divorced so I am not all that concerned with security.I've just been sending one when I measage so kind of the same thing.

BumLick1
03-21-22, 01:35
Visiting Phoenix this week and wanted to see if anyone would be willing to dm to trade me sure things. I'd be more than happy to provide reliable and safe SB's in a variety of other cities. I haven't visited phoenix until now and wanted at least one fun encounter with a sb. I've sent out several messages today but unfortunately am limited on time so want to make sure I can meet up with at least one. DM would be great. TIa.

Bbw Lvr
03-21-22, 14:38
Has anyone had any luck on this site? 90% of the profiles seem fake and the few that aren't, we message once or twice and then they ghost. Is there a trick to this?

JChoi
03-21-22, 23:34
Has anyone had any luck on this site? 90% of the profiles seem fake and the few that aren't, we message once or twice and then they ghost. Is there a trick to this?I've had luck once 3-4 years ago. Lots just wands cash up front and it cost a lot for credits to open a message. . 19 cents or something like that. If you are persistent, you could find a diamond in the rough. Plus these girls have GPS. Won't meet for less than 4-500 and is not full GFE. Unless you find that one naive little cutie 🥰.

TinyForce42
03-23-22, 12:14
Has anyone had any luck on this site? 90% of the profiles seem fake and the few that aren't, we message once or twice and then they ghost. Is there a trick to this?I have had a few of them "message" me and I've requested access to their secret pics. All of this without posting my pic on there. I have got a few of them grant me access, and am wondering if I should shell out the money to buy the package. I guess the ones messaging me have verified their account, so at least they are not fake.

SquirtLover
03-24-22, 13:53
Has anyone had any luck on this site? 90% of the profiles seem fake and the few that aren't, we message once or twice and then they ghost. Is there a trick to this?I bought the credits twice (159 or 169) only got one girl gave me her number and she never replied. Most profiles are fake or inactive but SB shows them online.

Desert Rat
03-25-22, 19:04
Visiting Phoenix this week and wanted to see if anyone would be willing to dm to trade me sure things. I'd be more than happy to provide reliable and safe SB's in a variety of other cities. I haven't visited phoenix until now and wanted at least one fun encounter with a sb. I've sent out several messages today but unfortunately am limited on time so want to make sure I can meet up with at least one. DM would be great. TIa.My personal experience in the Phoenix Area is that Seeking is mostly bullshit ads and GPS ladies. Most of the women want at least $100 just to meet in a public place. Many of the ads are fake. They have one picture and one sentence in the first section and nothing in the lower section.

CashDaddy47
04-12-22, 14:06
My personal experience in the Phoenix Area is that Seeking is mostly bullshit ads and GPS ladies. Most of the women want at least $100 just to meet in a public place. Many of the ads are fake. They have one picture and one sentence in the first section and nothing in the lower section.I joined SB and Seeking Arrangements after moving out here last year. I've met 1 girl on SB, who ended up bailing on me. I have over a hundred messages, but if you reply you never hear back from them. My feeling is the site is a joke, they just suck money out of you. Seeking is better but too many girls looking for platonic. But I do have a question, what is the going price for pussy in AZ?

Dsprdo
04-16-22, 18:13
But I do have a question, what is the going price for pussy in AZ?These days 400 seems to be the standard ask from the girls on SA. You can talk a lot down to 3. I have a couple of longstanding girls at 2 and even one at 150, but she is in it as much for the sex as anything else.

Fantasy Man J
04-16-22, 18:23
These days 400 seems to be the standard ask from the girls on SA. You can talk a lot down to 3. I have a couple of longstanding girls at 2 and even one at 150, but she is in it as much for the sex as anything else.If you are the first person they meet, likely will get a better rate. Have had success with some ASU sorority girls that just want social media clout and don't expect an allowance. YMMV.

Dkuym1
04-17-22, 01:58
In general, I've found the end of the month or the very first of the month you'll find better success with negotiations. Rent is due. They need to pay bills and are more willing to relax their GPS policy.

Scotty8783
06-10-22, 15:10
About to hit Phx June 16-19, I'll report back on any successful meet-ups.

Any recommendations of girls is greatly appreciated.

CashDaddy47
06-15-22, 11:57
I have an SB who wants to do a lot of shopping, and I told her I'm not footing the bill for it. So, she wants to spread her wings to make some cash, and she wants me to find her some guys to see. She said she trusts me. Everything is on the table except CIP. Seniors private message me for more info. She's 19 nice body, submissive.

CashDaddy47
06-16-22, 15:58
Hey has anybody had contact or info on a girl on SA, her name on her profile was BriarRides, any info would be good. Her account had been deleted.

LouisHernandez
06-16-22, 17:09
Has anyone had any luck on this site? 90% of the profiles seem fake and the few that aren't, we message once or twice and then they ghost. Is there a trick to this?It had some legit users 3+ years ago. Now it's pretty much a total scam site.

CashDaddy47
06-16-22, 18:41
It had some legit users 3+ years ago. Now it's pretty much a total scam site.I got an email from then saying a certain girl had released her private photos. The problem is we had talked months before, I had already seen her private pics, before she ghosted me, LOL. I met one girl from SB, and she couldn't go thru with it.

Lyle416
06-20-22, 03:16
Seeking rookie here what are some dos and donts?

Not sure how true it is but I have seen guys say they haven't had to pay some women on there anything.

CashDaddy47
06-20-22, 13:13
Seeking rookie here what are some dos and donts?

Not sure how true it is but I have seen guys say they haven't had to pay some women on there anything.Yes, that's true, but usually younger, good-looking guys with a good game. And it usually includes a nice dinner and drinks before the show begins.

SpaSearcher
06-22-22, 10:36
Seeking rookie here what are some dos and donts?

Not sure how true it is but I have seen guys say they haven't had to pay some women on there anything.Just be a respectable person and treat the ladies the same and you will be fine. I've had several free encounters, if you both click then who knows what will happen. Don't be a weirdo or a creep and you should be ok.

MurkinTwats
06-23-22, 10:53
Yes, that's true, but usually younger, good-looking guys with a good game. And it usually includes a nice dinner and drinks before the show begins.You need to delete some of your PM's, the system says you're full and can't receive anymore.

CashDaddy47
06-23-22, 13:38
You need to delete some of your PM's, the system says you're full and can't receive anymore.Done! Thanks.

Lyle416
06-26-22, 13:11
Thanks for the advice fellas. I started talking to someone on there and everything was fine until she said she wanted 500 for ppm ugh.

CashDaddy47
06-26-22, 17:28
Thanks for the advice fellas. I started talking to someone on there and everything was fine until she said she wanted 500 for ppm ugh.You can try to negotiate with her, some will go down in price, but a lot are asking 400 to 600 these days.

Bbw Lvr
06-26-22, 21:06
You can try to negotiate with her, some will go down in price, but a lot are asking 400 to 600 these days.It would be one thing if it was more of a SB arrangement at 500 per meet but 500 for a wham bam thing is not worth it. Lots of good looking providers in the 300 range on different sites.

Animal131
07-05-22, 15:21
I travel all over the states and Phoenix was the worse response rate for me. LOL Any tips!

TheSunDevil
07-05-22, 20:20
I travel all over the states and Phoenix was the worse response rate for me. LOL Any tips!Lower your standards. This place is a desert in more ways than one.

Fudgsicle
07-24-22, 21:02
https://members.seeking.com/member/f757f571-f542-4cbc-a4b5-e42fc92fef41

I know that desert been been dry AF boys but here's one for you. I haven't been able to see her yet but she's mocha skinned but hot af.

She is a bottle service girl in Scottsdale and down to pound. She started at $600 but I got her down to $500. Haven't yet inquired about full range of services as I don't want to scare her off. She does give out a semi-pro vibe though.

Desert Rat
07-25-22, 17:07
https://members.seeking.com/member/f757f571-f542-4cbc-a4b5-e42fc92fef41

I know that desert been been dry AF boys but here's one for you. I haven't been able to see her yet but she's mocha skinned but hot af.

She is a bottle service girl in Scottsdale and down to pound. She started at $600 but I got her down to $500. Haven't yet inquired about full range of services as I don't want to scare her off. She does give out a semi-pro vibe though.I don't know about this one my friend. She did not fill out the seeking section and all of the pictures have her face in them. I hope that she is real but there are a lot of scams on seeking. Please proceed with caution.

Rynsa4
07-26-22, 23:53
Hello all, any experience with cuddle-comfort ladies around the valley, Especially for extras? I had tried with visiting ladies (from CA, CO) last year but didn't seem to get more than touch and fondle, I'm hoping there are some gals who provide the extra comfort, but not sure how to find out, most profiles say platonic so don't want to break the glass without knowing, feel free to share if anyone had better luck. Thanks!!

Fudgsicle
07-27-22, 00:52
I don't know about this one my friend. She did not fill out the seeking section and all of the pictures have her face in them. I hope that she is real but there are a lot of scams on seeking. Please proceed with caution.You can never be to sure. Honestly your caution is refreshing because most guys are horny AF and will run at it with blinders on.

I feel more sure about her than most other girls I've talked to. Couple reasons, we have video chatted (to verify), personal socials (including work IG), she was upfront about what she wanted, was willing to meet for a meal or coffee for further verification.

Most other girls I've talked to from down there are space cadets in their own right. But yes proceed with caution as always gentlemen, think with your big head not your little one (yes I know it's hard at times.

Ralf511
07-27-22, 16:46
Hello all, any experience with cuddle-comfort ladies around the valley, Especially for extras? I had tried with visiting ladies (from CA, CO) last year but didn't seem to get more than touch and fondle, I'm hoping there are some gals who provide the extra comfort, but not sure how to find out, most profiles say platonic so don't want to break the glass without knowing, feel free to share if anyone had better luck. Thanks!!I have tried only a couple, and never got extras. It should be a good resource. Too expensive for just a cuddle.

MurkinTwats
07-28-22, 09:41
Hello all, any experience with cuddle-comfort ladies around the valley, Especially for extras? I had tried with visiting ladies (from CA, CO) last year but didn't seem to get more than touch and fondle, I'm hoping there are some gals who provide the extra comfort, but not sure how to find out, most profiles say platonic so don't want to break the glass without knowing, feel free to share if anyone had better luck. Thanks!!I've tried setting up with a couple that seemed promising, but was looking for one that would host and all the ladies that seemed like there might be a possibility, didn't host. There are some threads on reddit where mongers claim to have gotten lucky with the cuddlers, but they all seem to be in other cities.

Halcyanon
07-28-22, 15:45
Hello all, any experience with cuddle-comfort ladies around the valley, Especially for extras? I had tried with visiting ladies (from CA, CO) last year but didn't seem to get more than touch and fondle, I'm hoping there are some gals who provide the extra comfort, but not sure how to find out, most profiles say platonic so don't want to break the glass without knowing, feel free to share if anyone had better luck. Thanks!!Oh man, now that is one site I never thought I'd see mentioned on here. What an insane site filled with solid 4/10's charging $100+ *per hour* to platonically cuddle, 90% of which do not offer any extras.

Now, there are a few genuine hotties on there, and I admittedly probably dropped a cool $10 k on that site (about half of that on the same 2-3 girls I'd see regularly who did some extras) in a years time between 2020-2021 before I finally tried out SA. I was able to "charm" several girls into cuddling in just a bra and panties (or in some cases just panties and nothing else) with lots of fondling / mutual massage involved, but none would go past that with me. I cringe every time I think about how much I spent on that site and how many real fucks that $ could have gotten me with SA girls.

I have no PHX recs since I am an out of town traveler, but my advice is not to bother with CC. You will spend a ton of time trying to scout out who will offer extras just to waste your time and be yelled at by the landwhales who expect guys to just cuddle with them for several hundreds of dollars. As I've now learned, if you play the game right, you can get an entire night with a solid looking girl on SA with limitless fucking for the same price as 2-3 hours with a "professional" cuddler who will at the very most just leave you hanging with blue balls even if they do let you escalate things a little bit.

Vivid Dream
07-29-22, 11:00
Oh man, now that is one site I never thought I'd see mentioned on here. What an insane site filled with solid 4/10's charging $100+ *per hour* to platonically cuddle, 90% of which do not offer any extras.

Now, there are a few genuine hotties on there, and I admittedly probably dropped a cool $10 k on that site (about half of that on the same 2-3 girls I'd see regularly who did some extras) in a years time between 2020-2021 before I finally tried out SA. I was able to "charm" several girls into cuddling in just a bra and panties (or in some cases just panties and nothing else) with lots of fondling / mutual massage involved, but none would go past that with me. I cringe every time I think about how much I spent on that site and how many real fucks that $ could have gotten me with SA girls.

I have no PHX recs since I am an out of town traveler, but my advice is not to bother with CC. You will spend a ton of time trying to scout out who will offer extras just to waste your time and be yelled at by the landwhales who expect guys to just cuddle with them for several hundreds of dollars. As I've now learned, if you play the game right, you can get an entire night with a solid looking girl on SA with limitless fucking for the same price as 2-3 hours with a "professional" cuddler who will at the very most just leave you hanging with blue balls even if they do let you escalate things a little bit.An excellent summary and comparison. Not worth it the time, effort, or funding.

Rynsa4
07-29-22, 15:45
Oh man, now that is one site I never thought I'd see mentioned on here. What an insane site filled with solid 4/10's charging $100+ *per hour* to platonically cuddle, 90% of which do not offer any extras.

Now, there are a few genuine hotties on there, and I admittedly probably dropped a cool $10 k on that site (about half of that on the same 2-3 girls I'd see regularly who did some extras) in a years time between 2020-2021 before I finally tried out SA. I was able to "charm" several girls into cuddling in just a bra and panties (or in some cases just panties and nothing else) with lots of fondling / mutual massage involved, but none would go past that with me. I cringe every time I think about how much I spent on that site and how many real fucks that $ could have gotten me with SA girls.

I have no PHX recs since I am an out of town traveler, but my advice is not to bother with CC. You will spend a ton of time trying to scout out who will offer extras just to waste your time and be yelled at by the landwhales who expect guys to just cuddle with them for several hundreds of dollars. As I've now learned, if you play the game right, you can get an entire night with a solid looking girl on SA with limitless fucking for the same price as 2-3 hours with a "professional" cuddler who will at the very most just leave you hanging with blue balls even if they do let you escalate things a little bit.Thanks for sharing, I agree it takes lot of time, money, effort and patience to get the actual comfort in CC, in SA also there are so many fake profiles and time waster, Haven't had good luck, but in my opinion sometimes if one has the time and patience exploring the unknown out of the hotties is a good game, at first she seems hesitant and after pouring attention eventually the panties do come off, LOL! It's like keep watering the plant for sometime to yield the fruits of your labor. The AMPs that give 100% bang for the buck are still much better, but when one gets bored the exploration game seems interesting especially for the 20 yo hotties who generally give up, best of luck everyone!

PeaceLovers
08-10-22, 12:33
I've tried setting up with a couple that seemed promising, but was looking for one that would host and all the ladies that seemed like there might be a possibility, didn't host. There are some threads on reddit where mongers claim to have gotten lucky with the cuddlers, but they all seem to be in other cities.Just curious about the reddit thread you are talking about so I can see if there is tips in my area. I am not sure about New England girls on the cuddling website.

MurkinTwats
08-29-22, 11:26
Just curious about the reddit thread you are talking about so I can see if there is tips in my area. I am not sure about New England girls on the cuddling website.The first positive one, is the original I saw. There were some others after that but didn't come up in my search, besides this second not so positive thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HappyEndingMassage/comments/vbsly4/cuddle/?sort=top

https://www.reddit.com/r/HappyEndingMassage/comments/vkxvax/i_dont_believe_the_cuddle_posts_and_did_try_one/

WiseTraveler
08-29-22, 17:18
The first positive one, is the original I saw. There were some others after that but didn't come up in my search, besides this second not so positive thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HappyEndingMassage/comments/vbsly4/cuddle/?sort=top

https://www.reddit.com/r/HappyEndingMassage/comments/vkxvax/i_dont_believe_the_cuddle_posts_and_did_try_one/I thought about replying on reddit but it's not like we need more assholes ruining the cuddle experience. It's not a good bang for your buck endeavor for most. It can be great if you:

* Enjoy the chase and the fact you don't know what will happen but actually enjoy the cuddling experience regardless. Similar to how you'd search for SBs but you have to be far more discreet at first. You can't even hint at extras, revealing clothing, etc.

* Are respectful and don't give off an entitled or 'all women are ******. The only question is the price' vibe.

* Always show up freshly showered with good breath and not wearing a banana hammock or leopard silk boxers. Seriously, who the hell sees any provider or professional while their junk stinks? It's like going to the dentist without brushing your teeth for two days.

* Can read the room / provider and don't immediately start pushing boundaries. It's a seduction, yes, but the provider should come out of it with a smile and a sincere request that you repeat.

It's also a reality that the more attractive / charming you are, the better your chances. I'm not a movie start but am conventionally attractive and non-threatening. It's worked out for me to get far better service (s) for similar money to what I'd pay for AMPs or escorts with a very different type of lady. Less jaded, more girl / mom next door.

One cuddler in Phoenix sent a detailed price list / menu in advance. It was ridiculous even for an 8-10 level (she's a 5. 1 at best). I cancelled the session.

Other cuddlers were so sweet that I didn't want to disappoint them or make them not like cuddling. They truly cared about what they're doing so why shit on that? Just being able to cup their breasts and be close enough for them to feel my erection without pulling away was stimulating and enjoyable. Sometimes it wasn't even that. Just platonic cuddling.

Other cuddlers would be ones I wouldn't go for on a sugar site but for some reason were hot as hell to cuddle, including larger / older ones. Some ended up being the best sex ever with a few turning into almost free use situations (I still gave them gifts / help). Only one totally flipped on me. She initiated each escalation and I was the one who paused to use protection, yet she had regrets after and reported me. Not worth arguing but it sucked because I asked for verbal agreement before we moved to each step. She's still on the site, sigh.

Final thought is you'll be more successful if you have a few sessions with pure platonic cuddlers and get good karma. Don't even hint at or try anything. That might be too much time /$ when you can get exactly what you want via massage / escorts / AMPs / SBs but again, if you like the chase and seduction, it can be good. If you have no karma, no public pic you may not even get a reply from most cuddlers.

Some of the most vocal cuddlers on Cud comfort forums who relentlessly post about boundaries / platonic cuddling have done more but it was because we built trust, not because I offered more $. The vast majority fucking hate guys who expect extras and even more who are predatory about it. There's really high turnover because of that and what used to be a wonderful option has gotten much tougher. Truly a 'That's why we can't have nice things. ' self-inflicted wound.

JonFisher
09-04-22, 08:25
Does anyone have a SDM account. I need help figuring out if a particular person blocked me or is no longer there. I have a dummy account but if you don't pay you can't search.

LaterGreen
09-16-22, 00:25
Sorry no URL, I think she deleted her SA, or blocked me. Just pics.

18 yo, messaged me for a week and a half. Definitely a real girl -- one of the pics is from her LinkedIn, her name is Casandra S. (DM me for her full name & email).

Since I knew she was real and she seemed on board to meet for dinner, I sent her money and gifts upfront. BAD IDEA.

She kept me waiting 2 hours for our date with a BS story about feeling unwell and then a traffic jam.

This girl spent 2 weeks scamming me for $150. She would have made double that on our first date even with a little kissing and no sex.

Don't reward scammers and catfish.

JohnJjjj8888
09-16-22, 05:45
Sorry no URL, I think she deleted her SA, or blocked me. Just pics.

18 yo, messaged me for a week and a half. Definitely a real girl -- one of the pics is from her LinkedIn, her name is Casandra S. (DM me for her full name & email).

Since I knew she was real and she seemed on board to meet for dinner, I sent her money and gifts upfront. BAD IDEA.

She kept me waiting 2 hours for our date with a BS story about feeling unwell and then a traffic jam.

This girl spent 2 weeks scamming me for $150. She would have made double that on our first date even with a little kissing and no sex.

Don't reward scammers and catfish.Please everyone stop sending money to women before you meet. You are setting the standard and then it will only get worse and open everyone to getting played. I'm sorry you lost your money, but you should know better than fronting any woman you haven't met before.

LaterGreen
09-16-22, 14:05
Please everyone stop sending money to women before you meet. You are setting the standard and then it will only get worse and open everyone to getting played. I'm sorry you lost your money, but you should know better than fronting any woman you haven't met before.You are 100% right and I have been doing this long enough to know better. Shame on me. Learn from my mistake! Never again!!

LaterGreen
09-17-22, 12:21
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/e6c0f2a8-2a1d-4723-9c4e-34ef8dca96cc

This time I didn't send her money first. We agreed on (expensive restaurant) at my suggestion. The time was of her choosing and she agreed to my monetary offer for her conversation during dinner and clearly stated no expectations of anything else. Ghosted me totally. All she had to do was show up have a nice meal and walk away with a generous but not crazy amount.

What is wrong here man?!

Kelso111
09-17-22, 21:43
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/e6c0f2a8-2a1d-4723-9c4e-34ef8dca96cc

This time I didn't send her money first. We agreed on (expensive restaurant) at my suggestion. The time was of her choosing and she agreed to my monetary offer for her conversation during dinner and clearly stated no expectations of anything else. Ghosted me totally. All she had to do was show up have a nice meal and walk away with a generous but not crazy amount.

What is wrong here man?!Do you really need to wine and dine these girls to fuck them? I never used seeking.com but it seems like a hassle if I had to do all that crap for average women (going to a bar might yield better results and you don't have to waste money, LOL). Let me know how you do it if you're an expert at it.

SpaSearcher
09-18-22, 10:34
Do you really need to wine and dine these girls to fuck them? I never used seeking.com but it seems like a hassle if I had to do all that crap for average women (going to a bar might yield better results and you don't have to waste money, LOL). Let me know how you do it if you're an expert at it.From my experience on seeking, no, you do not have to. I don't use seeking anymore because it seems the membership prices keep going up and up. I can say though, in the past I have probably met 25 girls on there and each one we met first at a local coffee shop just to verify that I wasn't being catfished or robbed and all of them were cool with that. The casino is another good place to do a first visit to sit and have a drink, most coffee shops are small so I always feel like I have to rush to let someone else have the table. There is much more involved in a sugarbaby relationship because to some girls, if you connect, it's not a transaction, but sometimes they will want to come over or have you over just for fun. I've even connected with some and never paid anything at all.

Kelso111
09-18-22, 17:16
. There is much more involved in a sugarbaby relationship because to some girls, if you connect, it's not a transaction, but sometimes they will want to come over or have you over just for fun. I've even connected with some and never paid anything at all.That's what I like, prop to you.

Happtrav
09-22-22, 03:09
Phoenix used to be amazing for sugaring. There used to be, lots of girls willing to meet a traveler and have hotel fun for $$.

Not anymore. Most are asking $5 just to meet. Here is a summary:

StunningBaby=750.

Arizona_babe= Headcase. Will not discuss anything, wants to meet in person. Not text communication.

Scarlette=Only want to video chat.

Wittybritty= 800-1200.

PeteteBeauty=Fake. 2 girls Claim to be in Tempe. 507 area code.

Temptationlyyours=500/ week. 218 area code.

Ksunflower25= Drama Queen. No intention of meeting. Just online arguments.

Bossybunny=400/ hr to meet for drinks.

BARBIETEA=500. But has anger issues.

And the Real Evil ones:

Babygirl22= Spoke to her on the phone. She demanded I Venmo her money. And how I do not understand the hard life of a poor female student.

Treatmenice1107= This curvy girl is a blackmailer. Set up a date on the phone. And then started demanding 600-1000 at the time we were supposed to meet. Here is a tip, NEVER give a girl your hotel address or room number.

HonestPrincess= Nothing honest about her. Her Voicemail is full. She gives a Sob story. Makes dates, and never shows up.

I have about 40 phone numbers. Ended up meeting no one.

Senior members, if you want phone numbers of any of the girls listed DM me.

Kelso111
09-22-22, 05:20
BARBIETEA=500. But has anger issues.

Senior members, if you want phone numbers of any of the girls listed DM me.I love angry girls, LOL. Did you end up sleeping with her?

DoggieFan
10-08-22, 09:44
Hey Az Daddies. Just posting this so you guys don't waste a week of your life texting this catfish like I did.

Of course first red flag was 19 why o & TGTBT. I've banged a few 18-22 why o absolutely gorgeous princesses over the last couple of years on Seeking, so if communication is good I do get enticed.

Hers (him?) was first rate. Even sent a couple of specific pics I requested.

Oh, I'm in Richmond, Va & she was previously showing being in Sterling, Va. Up near DC, about an hour and a half drive. She was hitting all the right notes, sounded like a newbie who's GF had used SA & was making some $ seeing older Daddies. We had established she would come to a hotel about half an hour west of her hometown, straight to my hotel Sunday afternoon. Confirmed she knew what she was coming for.

Then last night I text her & get the STOP text. Checked her profile & now she shows up in Scottsdale. I'd say avoid her but do a long time SM a solid. Could everyone bombard her inbox. Offer her $2,000! Fuck with her, since she (he?) has no intentions of fucking anyone!

https://members.seeking.com/member/b0522fa5-df89-4abf-8189-6c8df6a7933b

Desert Rat
10-08-22, 13:23
https://members.seeking.com/member/abe25c3a-dd75-441d-a146-3ca9d82c3b22

This young black stripper has been messaging me. She admits to having one child and being all about the Benjamins. She has yet to set a firm price.

https://members.seeking.com/member/45ffce6f-f559-4d88-942c-79e9e9b17880

This one is married and wants a $4,000 a month allowance.

BatonEleve
11-05-22, 11:11
Just curious if anyone here on the + side of 60 is having success with any of the SB sites. I haven't used such a site yet, but I'm thinking the chase could be part of the fun. I'd be looking for more mature SBs I think. I think I like the idea of PPM than a longer term situation. Appreciate any feedback from fellow senior SDs.

BatonEleve
11-05-22, 15:30
Just curious if anyone here on the + side of 60 is having success with any of the SB sites. I haven't used such a site yet, but I'm thinking the chase could be part of the fun. I'd be looking for more mature SBs I think. I think I like the idea of PPM than a longer term situation. Appreciate any feedback from fellow senior SDs.Yes I "think" too much. But truly curious if the SB route maybe more productive than mongering?

And I also wanted to add a request to anyone in a similar demographic to me, and currently / previously having the SD experience, for recommendations to the best odds SB site for my purpose: MILF / mature wanting more casual arrangement. Thanks.

JoeDocks11
11-05-22, 16:13
Just curious if anyone here on the + side of 60 is having success with any of the SB sites. I haven't used such a site yet, but I'm thinking the chase could be part of the fun. I'd be looking for more mature SBs I think. I think I like the idea of PPM than a longer term situation. Appreciate any feedback from fellow senior SDs.Seeking arangement is the place to go. Some are fakes, some are hookers, some are the real deal. It takes all little more work but you can end up with a good one at a great price. They don't think of thenselves as hookers so don't treat them like one set up an unpaid coffee date to start. Go from there. That screens out the fakes and most hookers. Report back!

FlyingGuy23
11-05-22, 18:28
Just curious if anyone here on the + side of 60 is having success with any of the SB sites. I haven't used such a site yet, but I'm thinking the chase could be part of the fun. I'd be looking for more mature SBs I think. I think I like the idea of PPM than a longer term situation. Appreciate any feedback from fellow senior SDs.I'm in Tucson and I just turned 70, how did that happen! Anyway I've had no problem meeting ladies. I do ask them if they have a problem with the age gap, most don't. I do tend to go for ladies in their 30's and above but I have "dated" several twenty something's but to be honest they tend to think they're so hot they don't have to put in the work. There are plenty of hot 40 something's who are looking for a kind gentleman. Important not to mention ppm on the seeking site save that for when you get them to text you off the site. I also agree with the lets get a coffee approach. Good luck.

BatonEleve
11-05-22, 22:14
Just curious if anyone here on the + side of 60 is having success with any of the SB sites. I haven't used such a site yet, but I'm thinking the chase could be part of the fun. I'd be looking for more mature SBs I think. I think I like the idea of PPM than a longer term situation. Appreciate any feedback from fellow senior SDs.Thanks for the replies. Your comments are encouraging. To JoeDocks: I've read online that SA has rebranded as Seeking, and as a regular dating site? (As opposed to being SB / SD focused).

JoeDocks11
11-06-22, 07:22
Thanks for the replies. Your comments are encouraging. To JoeDocks: I've read online that SA has rebranded as Seeking, and as a regular dating site? (As opposed to being SB / SD focused).They are still all sugar baby / sugar daddy, they just want the dating site thing as cover.

Dsprdo
11-07-22, 16:04
Just curious if anyone here on the + side of 60 is having success with any of the SB sites. I haven't used such a site yet, but I'm thinking the chase could be part of the fun. I'd be looking for more mature SBs I think. I think I like the idea of PPM than a longer term situation. Appreciate any feedback from fellow senior SDs.I'm 62 and I've been on the site on and off for about 8 years. I've been with over 100 girls I met on SA. Some were straight up hookers, some were just dipping their toe in. A lot were one time things, but several I have continued to see on and off for years. Most were 20-25 years old, a few early thirties, oldest was 39. When I started lots of girls were happy with 100, and practically anyone could be had for 200. Now it's hard to find one for less than 3, and the hot white ASU girls are getting 5 or more. If a girl has a problem with your age she will usually say so in her profile. I have tried monthly allowance twice, both girls I had known for a while and trusted, and it doesn't work. As soon as they are paid in advance, they are too busy to put in the effort. Never pay just to meet, never advance "gas money" or "for a sitter", try to rein in the GPS where you can. Enjoy.

BatonEleve
11-08-22, 10:57
I'm 62 and I've been on the site on and off for about 8 years. I've been with over 100 girls I met on SA. Some were straight up hookers, some were just dipping their toe in. A lot were one time things, but several I have continued to see on and off for years. Most were 20-25 years old, a few early thirties, oldest was 39. When I started lots of girls were happy with 100, and practically anyone could be had for 200. Now it's hard to find one for less than 3, and the hot white ASU girls are getting 5 or more. If a girl has a problem with your age she will usually say so in her profile. I have tried monthly allowance twice, both girls I had known for a while and trusted, and it doesn't work. As soon as they are paid in advance, they are too busy to put in the effort. Never pay just to meet, never advance "gas money" or "for a sitter", try to rein in the GPS where you can. Enjoy.I really appreciate the feedback from all of you who responded. I did create a profile on Seeking, with discrete photos. I've done enough of these profiles on the various monger sites that I believe I know how to portray myself in a gentlemanly manner. (And my experience with pros validates that I am a "nice" fun guy. Unless they are complete liars, which on the topic of my chops as a monger I doubt. If a pro doesn't click with you, we all know how to read that vibe). So with Seeking I search the PHX area with a fairly wide radius and only 100 or so hits in the 26-40 age filter. And many (most) of these haven't been logged onto the site for months. I'm chalking up this initial experience with the general mkt conditions that have prevailed post-covid. I get the patience thing, and actually I look forward to the chase, but I got to say the pickings look mighty slim. I do have some standards I won't compromise, I e, no bbw, but I'm not encouraged. I'm going to start sending messages to see if I get any hits.

Question to those with actual experience, I assume the first "date" is something simple like meeting for coffee to gauge compatibility and discuss ppm details?

Desert Rat
11-08-22, 16:21
I am looking for young women who need assistance to get settled in life on Seeking. I do not see anyone who already has a college degree or a child. That usually omits any lady over 25 years old, but sometimes they are pushing thirty. I have paid to have a cup of coffee but no more that twenty dollars for gas money.

I have a friend who is a Doctor and he had a SB that treated him worse than a girlfriend. He set her up in an apartment and leased her a car. Within 30 days she would not see him without 48 hours notice. The dude is a Doctor and had a very fluid schedule but every time he was free she said she was busy. I gave him so much shit that he finally showed up unannounced and her boyfriend answered the door of the apartment. Doctor Dumbass took back the car and threw her out of the apartment. At least he was smart enough that the apartment and car were in his name only.

Thanks to his experience I will never pay an allowance to a SB but pay for each fuck one at a time.

Dsprdo
11-08-22, 17:23
So with Seeking I search the PHX area with a fairly wide radius and only 100 or so hits in the 26-40 age filter. And many (most) of these haven't been logged onto the site for months. Something you are filtering for is removing a huge number. I filtered 26-40, body type slim, athletic, average only and got 2442 results.

KingStannis
11-10-22, 01:42
I'm 62 and I've been on the site on and off for about 8 years. I've been with over 100 girls I met on SA. Some were straight up hookers, some were just dipping their toe in. A lot were one time things, but several I have continued to see on and off for years. .Damn, I'm surprised you and others have had so much success on SA, because I tried it this summer and it felt like a complete waste of time. As painful as dating apps! 99% of the girls I messaged refused an intro date of coffee or brunch / lunch to discuss a potential arrangement (I framed it as "let's see if we connect / vibe in person) without requiring a deposit before any type of meeting. I flat out told girls why would I pay an advance to someone I never met that could easily be a scammer, a waste of time, or guy?! Then the ones that did agree to a first date without a donation were flakey and said "oh I can't meet today. " Maybe, I didn't have my salary on the site high enough (100 k) or just am too below average looking to meet in person. Or maybe since I'm in my early 30's they didn't think I could be legit? I don't know but anyway, it was a bummer!

Sveetoh
11-10-22, 11:40
Damn, I'm surprised you and others have had so much success on SA, because I tried it this summer and it felt like a complete waste of time.

I flat out told girls why would I pay an advance to someone I never met that could easily be a scammer, a waste of time, or guy?! Just pointing out, those two parts of your story are likely related to each other. I've found telling attractive girls "you have to trust me because I think you may be a waste of my time" doesn't usually have them dropping their panties begging for you to come back. Happy hunting.

ColoHobbyist
11-23-22, 14:41
I'm 62 and I've been on the site on and off for about 8 years. Similar for me. 57 now. About that same time.


Most were 20-25 years old, a few early thirties, oldest was 39. When I started lots of girls were happy with 100, and practically anyone could be had for 200. Yeah. And it wasn't impossible (or even uncommon) to find ones with a daddy fetish and a penchant for nice meals that'd be cool with just that. A meal and some lovin' from "daddy". Just moving to Phoenix for a 6 month contract in January, so I can't speak to the market pricing yet, but if you can tolerate a girl that's a 5 or 6 instead of a 8 or 9, and if you're willing to spend a little cash and time to play the long game, the $200 girls are still out there (at least in Colorado).

While I don't pay a PPM for M&Gs, I usually schedule a meal date or two at the full PPM to "get to know each other better". When you're only paying $200, it's a small price to pay to see if they're reliable and to see if you can stand them for more than 30 minutes, while also painting yourself as someone that's not just using them as a fucktoy (good for their self esteem). Earlier this year I banged a chick that was a solid 7 (23, blonde, cute, petite, but a little belly keeping her from being an 8) once a week for 5 months for $200 and date costs, which included hotels because I live in a van (by choice). So, for less than $850 a month (amortizing the $400 I spent upfront on two sexless date ppms) I banged her (cum inside all holes) once a week, overnight every time.


I have tried monthly allowance twice, both girls I had known for a while and trusted, and it doesn't work. As soon as they are paid in advance, they are too busy to put in the effort. Again, exactly my experience. I've learned the sweet spot in the initial money conversation is to start with a PPM number that's below market rate, but not insultingly below, let her "win" by getting you to up it $50 (or not. The newbies will still sometimes take an exceedingly low number) and vaguely talk about an allowance in the future once there's mutual trust. Generally speaking, she'll never bring it up again, but the "idea" of a long term plan puts them at ease.

KingStannis
12-01-22, 13:11
Just pointing out, those two parts of your story are likely related to each other. I've found telling attractive girls "you have to trust me because I think you may be a waste of my time" doesn't usually have them dropping their panties begging for you to come back. Happy hunting.Yes, I get what you mean. I am always open to constructive criticism and you did inspire me to try Seeking again so I renewed the membership with premium. I setup boosted to get myself more views and I took your advice and didn't say that to the girls after they asked for PPM on a first date. Thank you Sveetoh for inspiring me to try again. I did finally get a date and from that date an arrangement out of it after two days of a lot of time and diligent work using Seeking. I told girls let's try a coffee or some other meeting in a public place for the first date, offered to Uber even. Still a lot wanted me to pay a hefty fee / deposit for the first public date. Those that didn't still garnered tons of flakes who suddenly canceled on me last minute even after setting up an exact initial meetup date and time for coffee / dinner. I will make a follow-up report weeks or months from now on my overall review / impressions of sugardaddying compared to mongering.

SpaSearcher
12-02-22, 10:52
Yes, I get what you mean. I am always open to constructive criticism and you did inspire me to try Seeking again so I renewed the membership with premium. I setup boosted to get myself more views and I took your advice and didn't say that to the girls after they asked for PPM on a first date. Thank you Sveetoh for inspiring me to try again. I did finally get a date and from that date an arrangement out of it after two days of a lot of time and diligent work using Seeking. I told girls let's try a coffee or some other meeting in a public place for the first date, offered to Uber even. Still a lot wanted me to pay a hefty fee / deposit for the first public date. Those that didn't still garnered tons of flakes who suddenly canceled on me last minute even after setting up an exact initial meetup date and time for coffee / dinner. I will make a follow-up report weeks or months from now on my overall review / impressions of sugardaddying compared to mongering.It can be a lot of invested time for sure. I renewed to see what has changed and so far, not much. Lots of scammers and golden pussy girls, but there are some smokin hot ones on there two. I met up with a girl on my first day back and we spent like 3 hours together. It went so well that she said she didn't want a set allowance going forward to meet with me, maybe just help out every now and then. It comes down to connection really. I'm going to see her for a while, maybe longer, it's better than the AMP settings and she has a really nice place.

Ripped Off123
12-03-22, 00:53
Are you guys able to stay anonymous on this site or does the payment part of it always make it known who you are?

FreeWayRoss
12-03-22, 01:55
Are you guys able to stay anonymous on this site or does the payment part of it always make it known who you are?Maybe use gift cards.

CashDaddy47
12-03-22, 12:36
Just curious if anyone here on the + side of 60 is having success with any of the SB sites. I haven't used such a site yet, but I'm thinking the chase could be part of the fun. I'd be looking for more mature SBs I think. I think I like the idea of PPM than a longer term situation. Appreciate any feedback from fellow senior SDs.I'm 68 and I still get young girls, I had a 19-year-old from GVU, for about 6 months before she went dark. Now I have a 19 yr old from Yuma. She is thin and cute fucks like a bunny. It took me a while to get them in bed but just my time. Both accepted reasonable compensation for their time.

Vivid Dream
12-03-22, 15:36
Are you guys able to stay anonymous on this site or does the payment part of it always make it known who you are?Consider looking at Richmond VA site for seeking. There is lots of information on how to be successful. It's worth your time to avoid common blunders for beginners.

Good luck and share your experiences.

JChoi
12-03-22, 23:20
I'm 68 and I still get young girls, I had a 19-year-old from GVU, for about 6 months before she went dark. Now I have a 19 yr old from Yuma. She is thin and cute fucks like a bunny. It took me a while to get them in bed but just my time. Both accepted reasonable compensation for their time.Do any have incalls? If they want a 50 year old client, I would be open 🤗 to it. Cheers.

SpaSearcher
12-04-22, 22:33
Here are some of my findings so far.

https://members.seeking.com/member/626125ed-6575-4154-aeef-56eb6949b7ea

She is really hot, will give out her number but only says she wants a mothly allowance, after a few days she still hasn't said how much and slow to respond.

https://members.seeking.com/member/beb8c231-a800-4efb-b1db-669ee366f08f

Looking to meet soon but she is so flaky with responses, haven't had much luck.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a0d881fa-5b3b-45ac-8428-58f486db96d7

Looking to meet asap but we haven't lined anything up, says she is down for literally anything.

https://members.seeking.com/member/ee8c9434-0d36-45d9-81ed-fb339827ed08

Really nice and good looking, seems to think this is a normal dating site, and she doesn't log on much.

https://members.seeking.com/member/bb64a815-65fc-43ff-966d-a87732ed9394

Seems to be into woo-woo shit, just talk to her, you will find out, I passed.

https://members.seeking.com/member/009ade81-cbfb-4880-9b4a-9346d093bee4

Looking to hookup and have fun but only with single guys so watch what you say to her if you are taken.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5e3bbe42-3ac2-4523-9da4-45f9582c4812

Looking for a lot each month and bills paid for, pass.

Let me know if you have had any luck with anyone.

WhatHurts
12-05-22, 11:32
Here are some of my findings so far.

https://members.seeking.com/member/626125ed-6575-4154-aeef-56eb6949b7ea

She is really hot, will give out her number but only says she wants a mothly allowance, after a few days she still hasn't said how much and slow to respond.

https://members.seeking.com/member/beb8c231-a800-4efb-b1db-669ee366f08f

Looking to meet soon but she is so flaky with responses, haven't had much luck.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a0d881fa-5b3b-45ac-8428-58f486db96d7

Looking to meet asap but we haven't lined anything up, says she is down for literally anything.

https://members.seeking.com/member/ee8c9434-0d36-45d9-81ed-fb339827ed08

Really nice and good looking, seems to think this is a normal dating site, and she doesn't log on much.

https://members.seeking.com/member/bb64a815-65fc-43ff-966d-a87732ed9394

Seems to be into woo-woo shit, just talk to her, you will find out, I passed..https://tryst.link/escort/wtfsexylol

Fantasy Man J
12-23-22, 18:55
Hope all of you are having a great holidays. Below are some straight forward girls to enjoy. 300-400. Again with anything YMMV and try to game them.

Quick and easy no drama. BBFSCIP. Petite and tight.

https://members.seeking.com/member/194d404c-8d46-47eb-8083-5905a0bc7441

A little weird but very tight pussy. BBFSCIP. Has an * and is open to video. Trending towards pro.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e6d46b8f-a64e-4d3d-80b7-5beb7a0be190

Kind of pro vibe but still fresh. Tight pussy as well but unshaven. BBFSCIP.

https://members.seeking.com/member/98072b15-fce7-486e-b11a-d03a2f655e94

Very tall and thicker than her pics. BBFSCIP / Greek / CIA.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c4290506-b5c5-4291-b695-1f1657c801c8

Fit girl but kind of standoffish. BBFSCIP.

https://members.seeking.com/member/071dec6a-82f8-42c2-b589-121593276a1e

SpaSearcher
12-24-22, 09:14
Not much good to report, so many girls just fall off the face of the earth after talking to them now on that site. I've spent almost a month and really low percentage of girls follow through with initial texts or plans.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4c66459b-d9cc-4914-bed2-e14af370fad9

Pretty to the point but likes to meet a couple of times before going further, looking for at least 400 per meet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/849d312d-0d0f-460d-923c-0e0cf9e930e2

Seems to be interested but really bad about taking forever to reply back to set anything up, still haven't connected.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1e09441a-9fa4-43c5-a8e6-21b2b7a36c24

Another slow texter, good luck if you get further.

https://members.seeking.com/member/33eed396-cc98-4e1a-aeb3-1a4488cb9b04

Same as above, takes days to respond but still trying.

https://members.seeking.com/member/40362d86-44ca-482c-a20f-930380b1fb35

Looking for 500 per meet, pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f09e031b-3b4c-4408-abfa-e0ec3c308bd9

300 is the least she will do, haven't link up yet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4869d2b9-f1bd-43f1-8e08-290101599c96

Not sure on this one, I can never get her to actually text me, I'm still skeptical on if this is a real account.

https://members.seeking.com/member/aac1b76a-fd8d-4771-aa05-bbf8c84425de

I've tried so hard to meet this one but she keeps bailing on plans, pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b4bc25fb-22f9-46d4-9bc8-1645f9d090da

Met this one, 200 for a meet, pass, dead fish alert, just pass.

SpaSearcher
12-26-22, 11:53
https://members.seeking.com/member/13e71c76-7f66-4197-a39a-72d3a56eda4e

She is in town every now and then, easy to communicate with and open to sharing details on what she is looking for. Haven't been able to schedule yet with her not living here but will look to meet when she is in town.

CflFun352
12-30-22, 10:28
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/cd9757f4235ff262

Looking for $600 FS, haggled down to $450 which I think upset her and she blocked snap. To old and rich for my taste.

DaddyBear1
01-02-23, 13:55
Met with this beautiful light skin girl named dezarai off seeking she's has nice tattoos all over her body that compliment her light skin and her red hair perfectly responses were very quick teased me the entire conversation when we were texting but for the meet she was straight about her business 450 $ for 2 hours of her time bareback GFE fun but cost 150 $ extra she was worth it I can say I've been traveling city to city for work as I am a truck driver so for me long as I can find a good chick to vibe with for a couple hours and blow me off bareback I'm happy so I never really cared about cost but I think my money that I ended up giving her kind of drew her toward me more she was definitely more of a open book once she got her payment started with a BBBJ then went to doggy style and that ass looked amazing then she swallowed every drop and allowed me to taste and play with her nice tight pussy for round 2 I just ended up getting another blowjob her skills were definitely above average some of the best I had I didn't get much info off her other then her number the link and her age but if you are familiar with seeking arrangements you know its filled with bullshit and scammers I can myself say this one turned out to be real and the session was amazing will repeat highly recommend I'm open to exploring more of this area so if you know any good providers and want to swap some numbers DM me.

https://members.seeking.com/dezarithequeen

Dsprdo
01-05-23, 17:18
Here are some of my findings so far.

https://members.seeking.com/member/626125ed-6575-4154-aeef-56eb6949b7ea

She is really hot, will give out her number but only says she wants a mothly allowance, after a few days she still hasn't said how much and slow to respond.

https://members.seeking.com/member/beb8c231-a800-4efb-b1db-669ee366f08f

Looking to meet soon but she is so flaky with responses, haven't had much luck.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a0d881fa-5b3b-45ac-8428-58f486db96d7

Looking to meet asap but we haven't lined anything up, says she is down for literally anything.

https://members.seeking.com/member/ee8c9434-0d36-45d9-81ed-fb339827ed08

Really nice and good looking, seems to think this is a normal dating site, and she doesn't log on much.

https://members.seeking.com/member/bb64a815-65fc-43ff-966d-a87732ed9394

Seems to be into woo-woo shit, just talk to her, you will find out, I passed.

https://members.seeking.com/member/009ade81-cbfb-4880-9b4a-9346d093bee4

Looking to hookup and have fun but only with single guys so watch what you say to her if you are taken.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5e3bbe42-3ac2-4523-9da4-45f9582c4812

Looking for a lot each month and bills paid for, pass.

Let me know if you have had any luck with anyone.Met #3 a while back. She looks waaaay more butch than in the photos. Probably wouldn't have done it if I had seen a better pic. Her opening text was "do you like to do anal? So yes I would say she is down for anything. Has texted me a couple of times since, whole message was "dtf? I have passed.

Dsprdo
01-05-23, 17:22
Hope all of you are having a great holidays. Below are some straight forward girls to enjoy. 300-400. Again with anything YMMV and try to game them.

Quick and easy no drama. BBFSCIP. Petite and tight.

https://members.seeking.com/member/194d404c-8d46-47eb-8083-5905a0bc7441

A little weird but very tight pussy. BBFSCIP. Has an * and is open to video. Trending towards pro.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e6d46b8f-a64e-4d3d-80b7-5beb7a0be190

Kind of pro vibe but still fresh. Tight pussy as well but unshaven. BBFSCIP.

https://members.seeking.com/member/98072b15-fce7-486e-b11a-d03a2f655e94

Very tall and thicker than her pics. BBFSCIP / Greek / CIA.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c4290506-b5c5-4291-b695-1f1657c801c8

Fit girl but kind of standoffish. BBFSCIP.

https://members.seeking.com/member/071dec6a-82f8-42c2-b589-121593276a1eHave texted 3# a few times, I like her look and want to try it out. I don't like to go over 3, that was a problem at first. I finally got here to agree to 3 for an hour but she said everything was covered. I am going to hit her up again.

Desert Rat
01-09-23, 18:45
I went to seeking today to peruse the ladies and was denied access multiple times. I reset the password and still it will not let me in. Technical support said they are now using using Google Authenticator to log in. Oh well, never had any luck on that damn site anyway.

SpaSearcher
01-09-23, 23:17
I went to seeking today to peruse the ladies and was denied access multiple times. I reset the password and still it will not let me in. Technical support said they are now using using Google Authenticator to log in. Oh well, never had any luck on that damn site anyway.Not missing much, I canceled my membership last month, same ol' bs on there all the time.

Foundation
02-08-23, 19:30
I pulled the trigger on a SA membership. I've communicated with 75-100 women. About 15-20 are deposits and scams. Of the rest only about 5 or so were reasonable amounts. One chick wanted me to meet her and her husband in Vegas and pay her $400 to fuck her while her husband watched. I told her it sounded like her husband should be paying me to fuck her. She blocked me LOL.

I met with a young big tittied (super saggy F or Gs) black girl. Quiet and a bit of an attitude, but got to fuck her raw for 3-4 hours for $300. It was ok, but not attractive enough for me to try again.

I did find one other that I met with. She is a super petite 22 yr old spinner. She is 5'3", 92.8 lbs (she weighted herself at my place). I wouldn't be surprised if size 0 is large on her. She is super cute, while small she has some curves and strength in her thin frame. She is a dream and UTR. I found her personal Instagram with a secondary Instagram showing off her pole dancing skills that she does as a workout, but isn't a dancer from what I can find. She is like a girlfriend who fucks like a porn star! Both times I have seen her have been amazing. We meet for 3-4 hours, get high, have a drink or two, and then fuck non-stop. All positions. She is super wet at all times and she squirts like a volcano! First time, we were fucking in reverse cowgirl then she laid down with her back on my chest. I'm fucking her as she has her head cocked to the side DFK when her pussy starts to get extra gushy. I hold her hips down harder and really start to pump, that is when she lets loose and squirts while I am fucking her. My bed was soaked. The second time, she was on me cowgirl, lays on my chest and starts DFK. I'm holding her hips as I pump away, she then says, "I don't want to make a mess". I respond that I didn't care about the mess only about her feeling good. She erupts like fucking Krakatoa! I mean for 30-45 seconds she is squirting everywhere as I am fucking her. I cum in her tight super soaker snatch just as she starts to finish squirting. It was like the best porno ever and I got to star in it! Once we go to the bedroom, she is cuddling, deep french kissing me, caressing my body, nibbling on my neck and ears, nibbling on my nipples, just worshipping me for 3-4 hours. She has never said stop, never said she is tapping out, never not wanting to go again. I cum 3-4 times with her each time. I can't get enough. Attaching some pics for your viewing pleasure.

I'm not telling this because I am giving out her number or information. I'm not, so don't even ask. I'm telling you so you know that there are UTR and non-pros out there willing to fuck like a girlfriend or better and won't break the bank.

JudoChop
02-08-23, 22:21
In town for WMO and SB. Need sexy swingers. Either on seeking or through dms. Senior from Indiana.

Kelso111
02-08-23, 23:34
I did find one other that I met with. She is a super petite 22 yr old spinner. She is 5'3", 92.8 lbs (she weighted herself at my place). I wouldn't be surprised if size 0 is large on her. She is super cute, while small she has some curves and strength in her thin frame. She is a dream and UTR. I found her personal Instagram with a secondary Instagram showing off her pole dancing skills that she does as a workout, but isn't a dancer from what I can find. She has never said stop, never said she is tapping out, never not wanting to go again. I cum 3-4 times with her each time. I can't get enough. I'm telling you so you know that there are UTR and non-pros out there willing to fuck like a girlfriend or better and won't break the bank.Good catch.

SuitNTie420
03-09-23, 16:23
Great pull! Yesssssssssahhhhhh!


I pulled the trigger on a SA membership. I've communicated with 75-100 women. About 15-20 are deposits and scams. Of the rest only about 5 or so were reasonable amounts. One chick wanted me to meet her and her husband in Vegas and pay her $400 to fuck her while her husband watched. I told her it sounded like her husband should be paying me to fuck her. She blocked me LOL.

I met with a young big tittied (super saggy F or Gs) black girl. Quiet and a bit of an attitude, but got to fuck her raw for 3-4 hours for $300. It was ok, but not attractive enough for me to try again.

I did find one other that I met with. She is a super petite 22 yr old spinner. She is 5'3", 92.8 lbs (she weighted herself at my place). I wouldn't be surprised if size 0 is large on her. She is super cute, while small she has some curves and strength in her thin frame. She is a dream and UTR. I found her personal Instagram with a secondary Instagram showing off her pole dancing skills that she does as a workout, but isn't a dancer from what I can find. She is like a girlfriend who fucks like a porn star! Both times I have seen her have been amazing. We meet for 3-4 hours, get high, have a drink or two, and then fuck non-stop. All positions. She is super wet at all times and she squirts like a volcano! First time, we were fucking in reverse cowgirl then she laid down with her back on my chest. I'm fucking her as she has her head cocked to the side DFK when her pussy starts to get extra gushy. I hold her hips down harder and really start to pump, that is when she lets loose and squirts while I am fucking her. My bed was soaked. The second time, she was on me cowgirl, lays on my chest and starts DFK. I'm holding her hips as I pump away, she then says, "I don't want to make a mess". I respond that I didn't care about the mess only about her feeling good. She erupts like fucking Krakatoa! I mean for 30-45 seconds she is squirting everywhere as I am fucking her. I cum in her tight super soaker snatch just as she starts to finish squirting. It was like the best porno ever and I got to star in it! Once we go to the bedroom, she is cuddling, deep french kissing me, caressing my body, nibbling on my neck and ears, nibbling on my nipples, just worshipping me for 3-4 hours. She has never said stop, never said she is tapping out, never not wanting to go again. I cum 3-4 times with her each time. I can't get enough. Attaching some pics for your viewing pleasure.

I'm not telling this because I am giving out her number or information. I'm not, so don't even ask. I'm telling you so you know that there are UTR and non-pros out there willing to fuck like a girlfriend or better and won't break the bank.

Aniraza
03-18-23, 13:12
I pulled the trigger on a SA membership. I've communicated with 75-100 women. About 15-20 are deposits and scams. Of the rest only about 5 or so were reasonable amounts. One chick wanted me to meet her and her husband in Vegas and pay her $400 to fuck her while her husband watched. I told her it sounded like her husband should be paying me to fuck her. She blocked me LOL.

I met with a young big tittied (super saggy F or Gs) black girl. Quiet and a bit of an attitude, but got to fuck her raw for 3-4 hours for $300. It was ok, but not attractive enough for me to try again.

I did find one other that I met with. She is a super petite 22 yr old spinner. She is 5'3", 92.8 lbs (she weighted herself at my place). I wouldn't be surprised if size 0 is large on her. She is super cute, while small she has some curves and strength in her thin frame. She is a dream and UTR. I found her personal Instagram with a secondary Instagram showing off her pole dancing skills that she does as a workout, but isn't a dancer from what I can find. She is like a girlfriend who fucks like a porn star! Both times I have seen her have been amazing. We meet for 3-4 hours, get high, have a drink or two, and then fuck non-stop. All positions. She is super wet at all times and she squirts like a volcano! First time, we were fucking in reverse cowgirl then she laid down with her back on my chest. I'm fucking her as she has her head cocked to the side DFK when her pussy starts to get extra gushy. I hold her hips down harder and really start to pump, that is when she lets loose and squirts while I am fucking her. My bed was soaked. The second time, she was on me cowgirl, lays on my chest and starts DFK. I'm holding her hips as I pump away, she then says, "I don't want to make a mess". I respond that I didn't care about the mess only about her feeling good. She erupts like fucking Krakatoa! I mean for 30-45 seconds she is squirting everywhere as I am fucking her..What's an SA membership.

Heel Lover
03-18-23, 16:10
What's an SA membership.I think it's seeking arrangement.

FosterWheatly
03-21-23, 22:57
Look out for Azbaby off seeking in Scottsdale. Has a friend. They played a good game and almost got me.

AnomBox
03-23-23, 12:58
Was in town for a night so reconnected with an old regular from Tucson. Still very real. Ass is a little thicker and another tattoo but she is still cute and will class it up if you ask. I did so she blended right at my higher end hotel bar. Light dinner, couple drinks, hour of pound town and off she went. Just like old times. Open to some very kinky stuff if you ask. A lucky guy at the bar almost found out but flamed out when he brought up politics.

https://members.seeking.com/member/11c81203-ec01-4a3e-9a7e-093f1324b39a?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC8%3D

DotJohn
03-28-23, 22:52
Will be visiting town soon so have been scouting gathering as many phone #s as I can. But I'm surprised that this thread has so little traffic. In Chicago the SB thread has tons of reports per week. Is there a better way than SA to get a UTR for a week or two in PHX? What's the usual rate for ppm?

SpaSearcher
03-30-23, 11:14
Will be visiting town soon so have been scouting gathering as many phone #s as I can. But I'm surprised that this thread has so little traffic. In Chicago the SB thread has tons of reports per week. Is there a better way than SA to get a UTR for a week or two in PHX? What's the usual rate for ppm?3-500 from what I've seen.

Quodesh2013
04-01-23, 03:35
I've had some decent success on Secret Benefits. Case in point, received a message from a young (24) hottie yesterday. She was so aggressive about meeting up right away that I was certain it was a catfish situation. We agreed to meet for a drink tonight to see if there is mutual interest in an arrangement. I purposely picked a bar near my place still believing nobody would show up. I arrived at the bar and she texted me that she was 2 minutes away. She asked what car I was in and I didn't want to say, so I let her know I was waiting at the entrance. She asked me to come out to the parking lot. Sure as shifting she was the girl in the pics. Hot as fuck and wasn't interested in a drink at all. Hopped in her car and we found a quiet spot and it was game on. I'm still fucking pinching myself. It's definitely a numbers game, but if you're patient good things can happen.

MikeELikes
04-05-23, 14:24
I've had some decent success on Secret Benefits. Case in point, received a message from a young (24) hottie yesterday. She was so aggressive about meeting up right away that I was certain it was a catfish situation. We agreed to meet for a drink tonight to see if there is mutual interest in an arrangement. I purposely picked a bar near my place still believing nobody would show up. I arrived at the bar and she texted me that she was 2 minutes away. She asked what car I was in and I didn't want to say, so I let her know I was waiting at the entrance. She asked me to come out to the parking lot. Sure as shifting she was the girl in the pics. Hot as fuck and wasn't interested in a drink at all. Hopped in her car and we found a quiet spot and it was game on. I'm still fucking pinching myself. It's definitely a numbers game, but if you're patient good things can happen.Damn I might need to sign up for that. Is there a membership fee? And what was the damage for the meet?

GermanOwl
04-05-23, 20:52
I have travelled frequently to the PX area, mainly on business trips and have some good success with SA girls for the quality / cost. Definitely have had 8's and 9's on several occasions and even a 10, that I will give a full report when I get a chance. But for today I will give a short report of a gem that is still active on SA.

Stargemm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/52920985-91c7-41d1-af34-f3379ae92e34

Before one of my trips to the area, I chatted with her and she was willing to meet when I was in town, but her condition her friend come along (and also be given allowance 500). I mentioned in a recent post in another city that I do enjoy threesomes but they are a bit overrated. Nonetheless after she sent me additional pics of her and her stunner blonde friend via text, I could not resist and decided despite the total cost, I needed to tap both blondes (both ASU girls). And when they showed up, in person they were even better than the pictures. She was 20 at the time and her friend 21.

We setup the date at a nice rooftop lounge at a modern hotel near downtown phoenix that I was staying at and we sipped on cocktails before started taking tequila shots. I had asked them also what they liked to drink (Tequila) and had picked up a bottle at the local liquor store so we could continue our fun in my hotel room. Great time chatting with them and the atmosphere was great vibing and I was ready for a threesome a la Wild Things. We proceeded to the room and continued with tequila shots and we got all naked and they started sucking hard on my cock while I was drinking tequila straight from the bottle. Stargemm (Maddie) started to ride me while I was DATY on her gorgeous friend. While riding me I could feel her squirting all over my cock (love that feeling when all the hot juice goes down my shaft and my balls). The other one I alternated between DATY and finger blasting her pussy and asshole. She started also masturbating herself and groaning while she was intensely watching her friend ride my cock. After several change of positions and pounding it came time for both of them to get on their knees and for me to blow my load on their open mouth and beautiful faces.

Overall experience 9/10 (only negative was they wanted for me to pay them before we did anything in the room, which I completely declined at first but to not ruin the mood I did take the money out and put in the counter so they would feel more comfortable, luckily it all turned out well).

Looks in person 8.5/10 and 9/10.

BBBJ with CIM, CIF, BBFS. My guess is CIP would have been ok since she was riding me so hard, she was a bit surprised I hadn't cum yet. I was keeping it for them to share however as I previously mentioned. I did not try or ask for anal.

Total cost: $1 K plus drinks. That drained my budget for a while but mongering memories for a lifetime. WIR: yes, but not with both due to budget constraints. If I was based in PX I would for sure have added Maddie to my SB stable and seen her more often, but unfortunately my trips did not take me as often as I wanted to the PX area. So this was only a catch and release for me.

Quodesh2013
04-05-23, 21:11
Damn I might need to sign up for that. Is there a membership fee? And what was the damage for the meet?You have to purchase credits and pay for the first message you send or receive. I think the minimum purchase for a block of credits is $100. My donation for the date was $300. I would have given her $500.

Peacekeeper
04-06-23, 14:24
It's a total waste of time and money. I tried it and bought points in order to message the girls. Not one response. Many who messaged me first all are scammers. You are much better off with seeking n wyp

JChoi
04-08-23, 12:46
It's a total waste of time and money. I tried it and bought points in order to message the girls. Not one response. Many who messaged me first all are scammers. You are much better off with seeking n wypTotally agree. SB might be the best one.

AnomBox
04-10-23, 20:23
I have travelled frequently to the PX area, mainly on business trips and have some good success with SA girls for the quality / cost. Definitely have had 8's and 9's on several occasions and even a 10, that I will give a full report when I get a chance. But for today I will give a short report of a gem that is still active on SA.

Stargemm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/52920985-91c7-41d1-af34-f3379ae92e34

Before one of my trips to the area, I chatted with her and she was willing to meet when I was in town, but her condition her friend come along (and also be given allowance 500). I mentioned in a recent post in another city that I do enjoy threesomes but they are a bit overrated. Nonetheless after she sent me additional pics of her and her stunner blonde friend via text, I could not resist and decided despite the total cost, I needed to tap both blondes (both ASU girls). And when they showed up, in person they were even better than the pictures. She was 20 at the time and her friend 21.

We setup the date at a nice rooftop lounge at a modern hotel near downtown phoenix that I was staying at and we sipped on cocktails before started taking tequila shots. I had asked them also what they liked to drink (Tequila) and had picked up a bottle at the local liquor store so we could continue our fun in my hotel room. Great time chatting with them and the atmosphere was great vibing and I was ready for a threesome a la Wild Things. We proceeded to the room and continued with tequila shots and we got all naked and they started sucking hard on my cock while I was drinking tequila straight from the bottle. Stargemm (Maddie) started to ride me while I was DATY on her gorgeous friend. While riding me I could feel her squirting all over my cock (love that feeling when all the hot juice goes down my shaft and my balls). The other one I alternated between DATY and finger blasting her pussy and asshole. She started also masturbating herself and groaning while she was intensely watching her friend ride my cock. After several change of positions and pounding it came time for both of them to get on their knees and for me to blow my load on their open mouth and beautiful faces.
ately my trips did not take me as often as I wanted to the PX area. So this was only a catch and release for me.Did the friend fuck?

KingStannis
04-21-23, 14:00
How has everyone's success rate been recently? Just restarted my account yesterday and I'm getting much fewer replies to messages than I did last November-December. Was it just easier then due to girls needing extra money for the holidays? Is there a seasonal trick to Seeking for our area based on high season, weather, or the amount of snowbirds? I don't recall getting more hits in July despite the horrid weather and fewer people in town due to the snowbird exodus. And one would think the college girls would have more free time in the summer! Anyway, the site has always been flakey and a challenge, but with the deluge of messages I sent to gals yesterday I thought surely it shouldn't be this hard. I didn't modify my profile either and had boost active even.

BobWilliams696
04-23-23, 06:50
This is going to be fun to write. I had the pleasure of visiting your beautiful city for work. Unfortunately, my long term SB decided to end things, so I have been saving my allowances for this trip. I decided to fill all possible waking hours with pleasure. Here's how it went.

BuxomBrunette - 44 year old MILF.

I met up with BB for drinks the evening I flew in. We shared a couple cocktails and retired to my room. Once the door closed, the clothes flew off. She is a 5'5", busty MILF with a little tummy. But oh was she sensual. She was definitely the most GFE of the group. Her BBBJ was phenominal and the way she orgasamed nearly squeezed me out. This overnight rendezvous ended at 7 am when she had to retreat for work.

This is the time where I did go to an AMP and see a pro. Both have been reviewed extensively and my experience is the same as those reviews.

Gorgeousgirl123 - 23 year old dancer.

Oh my God, she is hot. Her ass is perfect, and she took direction well. That's about the extent of the good. She wasn't quite a dead fish, but close. Her little moans were hot though. This encounter lasted 3 hours and I used as much time as possible touching that hot body.

Charliesub - 28 year old submissive.

She literally asked me permission to do anything,*including to get an uber to come see me. Definitely submissive in all aspects. She was my good girl all night. She liked it rough, dirty, and was down for whatever daddy wanted. This overnight date ended at 6 am when I had to catch a plane back home.

Couple key takeaways:

1. Treat them with respect. All three commented on creeps who would message them. Treat them like a real person, and they will do dirty things for you. You wouldn't walk up to these women in person and say, "how much for a BBBJ?" so don't do it on the website. They know why you're there, but they still want to be respected.

2. All of the correspondence*started at least 1 week before I even set foot in Arizona. If you take the time to get to know them at least a little bit, they're more comfortable and open minded.

3. All of the dates started with at least 2 drinks at the bar. The bartenders loved me. The women loved me even more when I spent an extra $20 on them.

4. The money I spent on each is irrelevant. One of the ladies said to keep my money, and another said they'd come back another night if I just paid for an uber. I like variety, so I didn't partake in that.

5. I won't trade numbers. Do your own research.

Honorable Mention:

Phxfoxx - 30 year old throat goat.

This gorgeous woman was willing to spend 3 hours worshiping me. It was that time of the month, and I don't play that way but she was willing to please me any other way necessary. I didn't partake because I was looking for the full package but she was very eager to please.

Gianna - 45 year old nymph.

This woman was willing to sext with me for the entire week, but once I landed in Phoenix, she decided to not meet. If her texts were true, she is a wild one and based on my research, that's likely. Good luck to those who meet her. This is the only one I don't have a picture of, as she deleted her account due to "creepy guys". Really? Come on now.

LoLovexo - 31 year old waitress.

She is super nice and personable. Willing to please. We had plans to see a sporting event followed by an overnight stay with wild intentions. She bailed on me and texted me the following day stating she left her phone in an uber. She tried to reschedule but I don't like flakes and already had plans with Charliesub.

TheSunDevil
04-23-23, 10:25
I've been curious about SA, but never taken the dive. Last I checked they had a credit / coin / point system to send messages? Anyone want to run a clinic or progressive on how the site works and best practices? I don't mind dropping the coin, I just want to have a little head start on the website functionality tip.


This is going to be fun to write. I had the pleasure of visiting your beautiful city for work. Unfortunately, my long term SB decided to end things, so I have been saving my allowances for this trip. I decided to fill all possible waking hours with pleasure. Here's how it went.

BuxomBrunette - 44 year old MILF.

I met up with BB for drinks the evening I flew in. We shared a couple cocktails and retired to my room. Once the door closed, the clothes flew off. She is a 5'5", busty MILF with a little tummy. But oh was she sensual. She was definitely the most GFE of the group. Her BBBJ was phenominal and the way she orgasamed nearly squeezed me out. This overnight rendezvous ended at 7 am when she had to retreat for work.

This is the time where I did go to an AMP and see a pro. Both have been reviewed extensively and my experience is the same as those reviews.

Gorgeousgirl123 - 23 year old dancer.

Oh my God, she is hot. Her ass is perfect, and she took direction well. That's about the extent of the good. She wasn't quite a dead fish, but close. Her little moans were hot though. This encounter lasted 3 hours and I used as much time as possible touching that hot body.

Charliesub - 28 year old submissive.

She literally asked me permission to do anything,*including to get an uber to come see me. Definitely submissive in all aspects. She was my good girl all night. She liked it rough, dirty, and was down for whatever daddy wanted. This overnight date ended at 6 am when I had to catch a plane back home.

Couple key takeaways:

1. Treat them with respect. All three commented on creeps who would message them. Treat them like a real person, and they will do dirty things for you. You wouldn't walk up to these women in person and say, "how much for a BBBJ?" so don't do it on the website. They know why you're there, but they still want to be respected.

2. All of the correspondence*started at least 1 week before I even set foot in Arizona. If you take the time to get to know them at least a little bit, they're more comfortable and open minded.

3. All of the dates started with at least 2 drinks at the bar. The bartenders loved me. The women loved me even more when I spent an extra $20 on them.

4. The money I spent on each is irrelevant. One of the ladies said to keep my money, and another said they'd come back another night if I just paid for an uber. I like variety, so I didn't partake in that.

5. I won't trade numbers. Do your own research.

Honorable Mention:

Phxfoxx - 30 year old throat goat.

This gorgeous woman was willing to spend 3 hours worshiping me. It was that time of the month, and I don't play that way but she was willing to please me any other way necessary. I didn't partake because I was looking for the full package but she was very eager to please.

Gianna - 45 year old nymph.

This woman was willing to sext with me for the entire week, but once I landed in Phoenix, she decided to not meet. If her texts were true, she is a wild one and based on my research, that's likely. Good luck to those who meet her. This is the only one I don't have a picture of, as she deleted her account due to "creepy guys". Really? Come on now.

LoLovexo - 31 year old waitress.

She is super nice and personable. Willing to please. We had plans to see a sporting event followed by an overnight stay with wild intentions. She bailed on me and texted me the following day stating she left her phone in an uber. She tried to reschedule but I don't like flakes and already had plans with Charliesub.

BobWilliams696
04-23-23, 11:09
I've been curious about SA, but never taken the dive. Last I checked they had a credit / coin / point system to send messages? Anyone want to run a clinic or progressive on how the site works and best practices? I don't mind dropping the coin, I just want to have a little head start on the website functionality tip.There was a plethora of women on Seeking in Arizona. Ohio doesn't even compare.

Seeking is a monthly fee. Buy a month, stockpile phone numbers, and drop the subscription. It may take some time to work something out. Like I said, I spent at least a week talking to each woman prior to visiting. As I read by another user, Seeking is full of sugar babies and escorts. If you want escorts, you don't have to pay for seeking since they're on other sites. But if you want a real sugar baby, you will probably have to put in a little work.

Secret Benefits is a transactional website. You buy coins and use coins to message, see more pictures, etc. Do not use secret benefits. While I did find some of the same women on both sites, Secret Benefits is generally full of bots designed to make you use coins.

TheSunDevil
04-23-23, 18:34
There was a plethora of women on Seeking in Arizona. Ohio doesn't even compare.

Seeking is a monthly fee. Buy a month, stockpile phone numbers, and drop the subscription. It may take some time to work something out. Like I said, I spent at least a week talking to each woman prior to visiting. As I read by another user, Seeking is full of sugar babies and escorts. If you want escorts, you don't have to pay for seeking since they're on other sites. But if you want a real sugar baby, you will probably have to put in a little work.

Secret Benefits is a transactional website. You buy coins and use coins to message, see more pictures, etc. Do not use secret benefits. While I did find some of the same women on both sites, Secret Benefits is generally full of bots designed to make you use coins.Thank you. I'm ready to level up. I think the quality of "escorts" is really starting to deteriorate especially in places like ListC and EBabylon. AMPs are cool and all, but feel too transactional. Hoping for something more regular and scheduled, but casual.

Bbw Lvr
04-24-23, 13:15
Thanks for the info. Can you share the range or approximate damage? There are a ton of girls on SA that will be great and extremely responsive if someone is willing to put up a huge arrangement so while you say it's irrelevant I think it would be very helpful to know.

Kester Diamond
04-24-23, 13:55
This is going to be fun to write. I had the pleasure of visiting your beautiful city for work. Unfortunately, my long term SB decided to end things, so I have been saving my allowances for this trip. I decided to fill all possible waking hours with pleasure. Here's how it went.

BuxomBrunette - 44 year old MILF.

I met up with BB for drinks the evening I flew in. We shared a couple cocktails and retired to my room. Once the door closed, the clothes flew off. She is a 5'5", busty MILF with a little tummy. But oh was she sensual. She was definitely the most GFE of the group. Her BBBJ was phenominal and the way she orgasamed nearly squeezed me out. This overnight rendezvous ended at 7 am when she had to retreat for work.

This is the time where I did go to an AMP and see a pro. Both have been reviewed extensively and my experience is the same as those reviews.

Gorgeousgirl123 - 23 year old dancer.

Oh my God, she is hot. Her ass is perfect, and she took direction well. That's about the extent of the good. She wasn't quite a dead fish, but close. Her little moans were hot though. This encounter lasted 3 hours and I used as much time as possible touching that hot body..Well done my guy.

KingStannis
04-24-23, 14:06
Thanks for the info. Can you share the range or approximate damage? There are a ton of girls on SA that will be great and extremely responsive if someone is willing to put up a huge arrangement so while you say it's irrelevant I think it would be very helpful to know.Typically the average PPM arrangement for our area is 400-600, but you can get lucky and convince a few girls to do 300. I wouldn't ask anything below that. When negotiating some girls start off saying "I don't go below _ " and rarely budge.

BobWilliams696
04-24-23, 17:16
Thanks for the info. Can you share the range or approximate damage? There are a ton of girls on SA that will be great and extremely responsive if someone is willing to put up a huge arrangement so while you say it's irrelevant I think it would be very helpful to know.I did 400 for 3 hours with gorgeousgirl123 and less than double that for each overnight.

Rynsa4
04-25-23, 18:10
This is going to be fun to write. I had the pleasure of visiting your beautiful city for work. Unfortunately, my long term SB decided to end things, so I have been saving my allowances for this trip. I decided to fill all possible waking hours with pleasure. Here's how it went.

BuxomBrunette - 44 year old MILF.

I met up with BB for drinks the evening I flew in. We shared a couple cocktails and retired to my room. Once the door closed, the clothes flew off. She is a 5'5", busty MILF with a little tummy. But oh was she sensual. She was definitely the most GFE of the group. Her BBBJ was phenominal and the way she orgasamed nearly squeezed me out. This overnight rendezvous ended at 7 am when she had to retreat for work.

This is the time where I did go to an AMP and see a pro. Both have been reviewed extensively and my experience is the same as those reviews.

Gorgeousgirl123 - 23 year old dancer.

Oh my God, she is hot. Her ass is perfect, and she took direction well. That's about the extent of the good. She wasn't quite a dead fish, but close. Her little moans were hot though. This encounter lasted 3 hours and I used as much time as possible touching that hot body.

Charliesub - 28 year old submissive.

She literally asked me permission to do anything,*including to get an uber to come see me. Definitely submissive in all aspects. She was my good girl all night. She liked it rough, dirty, and was down for whatever daddy wanted. This overnight date ended at 6 am when I had to catch a plane back home.

Couple key takeaways:

1. Treat them with respect. All three commented on creeps who would message them. Treat them like a real person, and they will do dirty things for you. You wouldn't walk up to these women in person and say, "how much for a BBBJ?" so don't do it on the website. They know why you're there, but they still want to be respected.

2. All of the correspondence*started at least 1 week before I even set foot in Arizona. If you take the time to get to know them at least a little bit, they're more comfortable and open minded.

3. All of the dates started with at least 2 drinks at the bar. The bartenders loved me. The women loved me even more when I spent an extra $20 on them.

4. The money I spent on each is irrelevant. One of the ladies said to keep my money, and another said they'd come back another night if I just paid for an uber. I like variety, so I didn't partake in that.

5. I won't trade numbers. Do your own research.

Honorable Mention:

Phxfoxx - 30 year old throat goat.

This gorgeous woman was willing to spend 3 hours worshiping me. It was that time of the month, and I don't play that way but she was willing to please me any other way necessary. I didn't partake because I was looking for the full package but she was very eager to please.

Gianna - 45 year old nymph.

This woman was willing to sext with me for the entire week, but once I landed in Phoenix, she decided to not meet. If her texts were true, she is a wild one and based on my research, that's likely. Good luck to those who meet her. This is the only one I don't have a picture of, as she deleted her account due to "creepy guys". Really? Come on now.

LoLovexo - 31 year old waitress.

She is super nice and personable. Willing to please. We had plans to see a sporting event followed by an overnight stay with wild intentions. She bailed on me and texted me the following day stating she left her phone in an uber. She tried to reschedule but I don't like flakes and already had plans with Charliesub.<claps claps thank you! Very well listed and shared, thanks for showing some light, I'm sure we will partake as AMPs get busy, moreover these sites give options to have more personalized GFE experience. Good to know that there are ladies who are willing to please.

AManatee
04-26-23, 11:17
Newbie question sorry in advance!

Thanks for the great reports lately, planning to get into the game shortly. Just wanted to check and see how / when payments are made? Like anything else in this hobby of ours there are tons of scammers etc, is it the same gameplan here where you do not provide any deposits and do cash only upon arrival to the date? Or do most of the SB require something upfront to meet?

Just trying to avoid early on mistakes. Any other key advice for someone looking to begin this type of arrangement (I. E identifying bots vs real people, things you wish you did at the beginning, etc)? Already have a basic account on SA and planning to go "premium" in the next week or so.

BobWilliams696
04-27-23, 10:18
Newbie question sorry in advance!

Thanks for the great reports lately, planning to get into the game shortly. Just wanted to check and see how / when payments are made? Like anything else in this hobby of ours there are tons of scammers etc, is it the same gameplan here where you do not provide any deposits and do cash only upon arrival to the date? Or do most of the SB require something upfront to meet?

Just trying to avoid early on mistakes. Any other key advice for someone looking to begin this type of arrangement (I. E identifying bots vs real people, things you wish you did at the beginning, etc)? Already have a basic account on SA and planning to go "premium" in the next week or so.Here is my routine:

1. For all dates, I check to see if their phone number is a real number or VOIP. If VOIP, that's a non-starter for me. In my experience, women with a VOIP number are hiding something, which usually leads to untruths, which can lead to scammers. There may be wonderful women to spend time with who have a VOIP number, but there are plenty who don't.

2. I do my research to make sure their internet presence matches their pictures they have shared. This is easily done with non-VOIP numbers. If I can't find anything, I don't invite them to my place, and we stick to a neutral location or their place.

3. Payment depends on how the prior research went. With long term SB's, it's never discussed after the first couple meetings. It just happens. For those first couple meetings, I'll usually leave an envelope in the restroom with their allowance. But only if the research went well. If the research didn't turn anything up, I'll hand the allowance to them at the end.

4. Unless the provider / SB has real reviews from trusted sources, deposits are always a scam.

5. Some SBs require a meet and greet prior to any fun being had, and request payment. This isn't something I do, but I know others who do this. Putting the allowance in a greeting card is the usual etiquette for that scenario. I'll buy drinks and dinner, but won't provide any additional funds on top of that unless it heads to a private location.

Fudgsicle
04-27-23, 16:25
In AZ for the past 2 weeks, leaving end of this week so I thought I'd recap my visit for you guys. This subforum has been a bit dry but nice to see the forum's been getting warmer over the last month or 2. But I can agree with previous posts here that the hit rate on actually linking with someone from seeking is 5%.

Confirmed past find.

Poisonivy.

https://members.seeking.com/member/194d404c-8d46-47eb-8083-5905a0bc7441

Small petite Latina with golden blond hair, true spinner (about 5'0 and about 100 lbs). I had messaged her probably a month or 2 prior after seeing the previous review luckily she messaged back in the time I was here. Within the span of 3-4 hours transitioned from SA to text to snap for verifying. I was in Scottsdale and she got from her place in Tempe to mine in about 30 minutes after verifying. BBFS (tight and naturally wet p), cip, BJ was barely ok but understandable as she had braces. Asked for $4, agreed at $3.5 but gave her $3 and even that I had to remind her to take her cash.

Ezra.

Blocked her on snap and seeking as she got annoying. So unfortunately I can't provide her link. But if you search Ezra in Tempe there's only two hits, she is the white girl and is 24. She wanted $200 for platonic and $600 intimate, managed to get her to come to dinner at Kabuki for free after 2 weeks of hit and miss messaging on snap. (BTW Kabuki sucks and I could really use some sushi recommendations in the Phx area). Anyways she was talking some wild shit at dinner about her life and background, while she was clearly already cross faded. She made it evident she's kind of been ran through as she grew up in an East coast inner city as a white girl. I didn't want to experience a hot dog down the hallway situation, but for this board I stuck it out and confirmed some details. I got her to agree to BBFS and cip with a plan B and got her down to $450 but wasn't able to get lower without arguing. So there is potential for even lower than that. Couldn't bring myself to go through with it as she smelled like sweat and slight b. O. She wanted to come back with me but I made an excuse got out of there and called the lady above.

Flakes.

Pretty princess.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6cbb03a6-f0b1-469a-9499-1933582cf9bc

This chick is a headcase nothing pissed me off quite like dealing with her. She changed her number 3 times in the span of a 1.5 weeks of me trying to connect with her. Obviously text app bs but could potentially be scamming? I had to constantly go back to SA to ask for her new number. She wanted $6 and laughed at my counter of $4, so I agreed with the intention of negotiating in person. She told me on 5 separate days she was headed my way after I told her my rough location only for her to message an hour or 2 later and saying something came up. The 5th time she didn't even message me back and left me hanging and I have yet to to get a message back from her via text or SA.

MyDixieWrecked
04-28-23, 14:16
A trio of reviews.Thank you for the reviews. You obviously play this game well, but you have confirmed my choice not to ever get into SA. It sounds like the prizes there are hot and made of unobtanium (at least for a ghoul like myself.) but at this stage in my life in the hobby, I can no longer stand an ounce of BS from these women. If ya want to hear the other side of it, reddit has a sex worker section. But hey don't talk about ripping us guys off there. Thanks again for the great report.

Dsprdo
05-02-23, 15:21
=Fudgsicle;6425608]Id.

Poisonivy.



Small petite Latina with golden blond hair, true spinner (about 5'0 and about 100 lbs). Thanks for the info on this one, I have been messaging her but haven't had the time to close. I will move her up my list.


Pretty princess.


She wanted $6 and laughed at my counter of $4, so I agreed with the intention of negotiating in person. Has been reviewed here under a different profile. I messaged her a while back, offered 300 and she refused. Saw the review here and had to try again. Got her to 350, had her over. She is cute, has a good body and a tight pussy. BBFS, she was surprised at how long I took and then annoyed when I came inside. At times she seemed like a sweet girl but is definitely getting jaded. We agreed to future sessions at 3 and then she vanished. I would definitely do her again if I got her under 4.

Scotty8783
05-05-23, 16:31
Going to be making a visit to Phx end of the month / early June. Hopefully going to have some good intel / reports from my adventures. Stay tuned.

KingStannis
05-08-23, 11:06
But I can agree with previous posts here that the hit rate on actually linking with someone from seeking is 5%.

Do you think the hit rate is also seasonal? I'm getting much fewer replies to messages than I did last November-December.


You obviously play this game well, but you have confirmed my choice not to ever get into SA. It sounds like the prizes there are hot and made of unobtanium (at least for a ghoul like myself.) but at this stage in my life in the hobby, I can no longer stand an ounce of BS from these women.I think you're being too hard on yourself. If when you say "ghoul" you're referring to looks I'm not attractive either, but I still have decided not to completely discount SA. I would say all mongers should give SA a try at least once. You never know if you'll like it, prefer it to regular pros, or just want to add a girl or two to your regular rotation. I think the site is a YMMV case. If I'm honest my experiences there aren't particularly good or even in the same league as Fudgsicle or BobWilliams696. It can be a challenge! I usually send out so many messages and get very few replies back. I once thought it was just a numbers game so I one time sent out so many initial messages to various girls that the site temporarily froze my account from sending messages. SA thought I was a spam account! They unfroze it after I contacted tech support, but even after all the messages I sent I still had a fairly quiet inbox! It very well could be similar to regular dating sites where it's about 90% of the women are taken by just 10% of the best looking or wealthiest guys. The "Sugar Bowl", as they call this scene, is supposedly competitive! I have been too ashamed to even post my lackluster reports from SA. I read that it helps immensely on SA if guys have profile photos that are attractive (nice face, muscles) and show off their wealth (cars, vacations abroad, etc). Regardless, I still say mongers should give it a shot. At the very least you might be able to snag a UTR / low volume semi-pro! I occasionally snag a girl there, typically average looking, but tighter than pros so it can be a nice change of pace.

BobWilliams696
05-09-23, 13:50
Do you think the hit rate is also seasonal? I'm getting much fewer replies to messages than I did last November-December.

I think you're being too hard on yourself. If when you say "ghoul" you're referring to looks I'm not attractive either, but I still have decided not to completely discount SA. I would say all mongers should give SA a try at least once. You never know if you'll like it, prefer it to regular pros, or just want to add a girl or two to your regular rotation. I think the site is a YMMV case. If I'm honest my experiences there aren't particularly good or even in the same league as Fudgsicle or BobWilliams696. It can be a challenge! I usually send out so many messages and get very few replies back. I once thought it was just a numbers game so I one time sent out so many initial messages to various girls that the site temporarily froze my account from sending messages. SA thought I was a spam account! They unfroze it after I contacted tech support, but even after all the messages I sent I still had a fairly quiet inbox! It very well could be similar to regular dating sites where it's about 90% of the women are taken by just 10% of the best looking or wealthiest guys. The "Sugar Bowl", as they call this scene, is supposedly competitive! I have been too ashamed to even post my lackluster reports from SA. I read that it helps immensely on SA if guys have profile photos that are attractive (nice face, muscles) and show off their wealth (cars, vacations abroad, etc). Regardless, I still say mongers should give it a shot. At the very least you might be able to snag a UTR / low volume semi-pro! I occasionally snag a girl there, typically average looking, but tighter than pros so it can be a nice change of pace.To piggyback off of this, looks help some. I'm told I'm handsome, but I don't have abs. I don't flaunt my wealth in my pictures but I dress well and clean myself up for my pictures. Proper attire can make most look good. Also, verifying your account helps. Willing to video chat is even better. All of the women I talked to had issues with guys not representing themselves properly. Verified accounts, video chats or even phone calls go a long way to ease their nerves.

Aside from that, seeking is 100% a numbers game. On any given night, in my neck of the woods, there are maybe 30 girls on seeking. When I was in Phoenix, the same search turned up 3-400. You best believe I copy and pasted the same message to each and every one of them. Sure, some of them werent the best looking, but I weeded those out. Of those several hundred, I ended up with a handful of possibilities. Some were too expensive and some weren't interested.

Anonyminn
05-11-23, 15:25
I'm moving from Minnesota to Phoenix this summer and am eager to dive into the sugar bowl out there. Thanks to all who've posted reports recently; they've given me a good start. I'd be grateful for any other recommendations you may have, and would be happy to trade scoop on SBs here.

My hard requirements are BBFSCIP, 35 or under, no bolt-ons, no baby damage, and no flab. Nice-to-haves include tall and/or slender, unshaven, no/minimal ink, and modelesque looks. Stargemm and Charliesub, mentioned earlier, are both in my wheelhouse while Stephmor (https://members.seeking.com/member/eb869e97-a6a6-4312-9b54-659b59dce388) is a essentially a perfect 10 IMO.

I'll be in town for a scouting trip over the next week and look forward to meeting at least a couple SBs while there. I look forward to contributing more soon.

KingStannis
05-14-23, 18:10
Hey guys, hope this intel saves you all some time! Seeking is very time consuming to weed through the flakes, message girls, and finally get a meetup so I am sharing girls that are "ready to go" on the PPM front. Would love if more could do the same to save us mongers time there. The time investment often feels akin to a part-time job haha. More PPM reports please! Also, as an aside please guys make sure to haggle with Seeking girls to stop the GPS inflation! Intel:

LovelyLinguist.

28 year old graduate school educated blonde. I could've sworn her profile said 29 years old previously so she is probably frauding her age and could very well be in her early 30's.

She's open to meeting for PPM. Just know I did a M&G for lunch to vet her first so I am unsure if you can bypass that with her and just go right to a NSA meetup. My guess is since she's intelligent, has been on SA awhile, and carrys herself confidently you have to at least meetup with her first in a non intimate way. So I would not recommend just messaging outright for a PPM. I was quoted a PPM of 600 via texting after our M&G. I tried to negotiate lower. She declined so I passed on her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5e7b6530-636e-4787-8be5-8fd4a385a831

Nelly.

21 year old Latina.

Nelly is straight to the point and after we exchanged numbers she immediately texted that she does 300 PPM. She does refuse to meet in public and will only see you at your place. I have not met up with her yet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0e9eafed-dd26-46a5-9f13-04a0604ae12e

Pretty princess.

21 year old fierce cutie. She is another girl that will save you the time of having to M&G as she is solely up for private FWB meetups meaning the "fun stuff" and not the fake wine and dine chitchat before the crescendo! As for damage she gave a range of how much guys have been giving her. Got her down to a PPM of 400. Definitely a fun girl in the sack as she moans and has a hot body to compliment her cute face. I did CFS (didn't ask for BBFS) and had a good time.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6cbb03a6-f0b1-469a-9499-1933582cf9bc

Scotty8783
05-15-23, 10:53
Thanks so much for your post, Stannis. I've been busy working on leads for a trip I have coming up in early June. I'll tell you one thing for sure. GPS is in full effect. I remember coming to AZ before the pandemic and BBFSing hot ASU girls for $100-$200 for a few hours. Now, these girls who rate no more than a 7 out of 10 are asking for 400+. INSANE. That GPS+Inflation really making things harder than they need to be.

My goal is to keep girls at $300 or under with BBFS in mind.

Here's a lead for now:

JadeStar.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4e4f2ba3-db1d-4166-a0cc-b4871bdef26b

Wants to grab a drink to see if we 'vibe' - god I hate that fucking word. She's cool with $300.


Hey guys, hope this intel saves you all some time! Seeking is very time consuming to weed through the flakes, message girls, and finally get a meetup so I am sharing girls that are "ready to go" on the PPM front. Would love if more could do the same to save us mongers time there. The time investment often feels akin to a part-time job haha. More PPM reports please! Also, as an aside please guys make sure to haggle with Seeking girls to stop the GPS inflation! Intel:

LovelyLinguist.

28 year old graduate school educated blonde. I could've sworn her profile said 29 years old previously so she is probably frauding her age and could very well be in her early 30's.

She's open to meeting for PPM. Just know I did a M&G for lunch to vet her first so I am unsure if you can bypass that with her and just go right to a NSA meetup. My guess is since she's intelligent, has been on SA awhile, and carrys herself confidently you have to at least meetup with her first in a non intimate way. So I would not recommend just messaging outright for a PPM. I was quoted a PPM of 600 via texting after our M&G. I tried to negotiate lower. She declined so I passed on her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5e7b6530-636e-4787-8be5-8fd4a385a831

Nelly.

21 year old Latina.

Nelly is straight to the point and after we exchanged numbers she immediately texted that she does 300 PPM. She does refuse to meet in public and will only see you at your place. I have not met up with her yet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0e9eafed-dd26-46a5-9f13-04a0604ae12e

Pretty princess.

21 year old fierce cutie. She is another girl that will save you the time of having to M&G as she is solely up for private FWB meetups meaning the "fun stuff" and not the fake wine and dine chitchat before the crescendo! As for damage she gave a range of how much guys have been giving her. Got her down to a PPM of 400. Definitely a fun girl in the sack as she moans and has a hot body to compliment her cute face. I did CFS (didn't ask for BBFS) and had a good time.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6cbb03a6-f0b1-469a-9499-1933582cf9bc

KingStannis
05-15-23, 13:28
Thanks so much for your post, Stannis. I've been busy working on leads for a trip I have coming up in early June. I'll tell you one thing for sure. GPS is in full effect. I remember coming to AZ before the pandemic and BBFSing hot ASU girls for $100-$200 for a few hours. Now, these girls who rate no more than a 7 out of 10 are asking for 400+. INSANE. That GPS+Inflation really making things harder than they need to be.

My goal is to keep girls at $300 or under with BBFS in mind.

Here's a lead for now:

JadeStar.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4e4f2ba3-db1d-4166-a0cc-b4871bdef26b

Wants to grab a drink to see if we 'vibe' - god I hate that fucking word. She's cool with $300.Yea, I read that before about the old rates in our area on this board! In fact it may have been an older post of yours. Multiple pages back mongers were saying how the rates as recent as a few years ago used to be 100-200 PPM and that a lot of girls were satisfied to just "hang with daddy. " I would've thought post-COVID the rates wouldn't jump so much since our economy hasn't fully recovered and due to inflation affecting the cost of food and housing so the girls should be needing the money and settling for reasonable rates, but I think what's happened is a lot of California transplants have increased PPM rates. I say that as no disrespect to anyone from California, but yea I think that might be playing a role since guys are used to paying more in the Bay Area or LA. I was reading the LA sugaring thread and they were saying the PPM is getting high there and if the PPM is reaching 1000 there then 400-600 in Phoenix is still a good deal from their Californian perspective.

KingStannis
05-18-23, 02:14
Hey guys,

If you're looking for girls that can host I've discovered a few.

Olivia.

Gorgeous 26 year old blonde. This girl is "traveling" and will be in Phoenix 5/15-20. It took a lot of texts to finally get her to open up about meeting up, her schedule availability, and a PPM rate. I'm not sure why Olivia was so tight-lipped and vague with her texts since Olivia's profile gives off pro or semi-pro vibes and even jokes that her profession is a "welder. " My guess is she sells adult pics or is a cam girl that is dabbling in the scene, but is hesitant. Olivia said she can host and I got her PPM down to 500. Really want to see her before she leaves town, but I'm a bit skeptical of going to her spot. Currently, trying to set up an initial M&G. As for the skepticism, I cross referenced her number and I couldn't find any professional ad listings. Also, a reverse image search of her photos yielded no adult content or urls despite her Seeking photos looking like they belonged on an adult site or Tryst! So this girl is a bit of a mystery to me.

https://members.seeking.com/member/36ac16b4-aca1-49dd-b940-daaec6cd3892

Bbyalexa.

23 year old cute "mixed" brunette that looks like she has either Asian or Latin in her. The pictures on her profile are really hot! She's very anxious to meetup going as far as immediately giving me her number after I sent my initial message on the SA website. After I texted bbyalexa she requested a photo of myself (typical pro move for screening) and she repeatedly asked when I was available. The constant texting almost made me want to block her. Her insistence is probably a red flag that maybe this girl has a handler and needs to get so many clients a day or something. Or maybe she's just a provider that is using SA and hates weeding through guys that are flakes or want a real sugarbaby to dote over. Regardless, her pics are very attractive in the face and body department, which has me tempted to TOFTT! Keep in mind if you decide to M&G she requires an additional 150 fee whereas if you just meet at her hosting spot you only pay the PPM rate of 500. Bbyalexa said she is also open to coming to your place, but the initial visit must be her hosting. Have not met her yet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5cb34377-883d-4dac-afe3-128790daabde

Neveah03.

23 year old Latina that looks to be a spinner. As far as her style, one of Neveah's photos on SA is semi-nude and another photo looks like she is in a stripper / professional dancer's locker room. I have not seen her yet, because she looks kind of trashy and wants a PPM of 400, and an extra 100 if she hosts. I feel like you see ads of girls that look like her all the time on EB, but for 300 so I think she's a bit overpriced.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e30af2af-5dd3-4e92-b466-ee3e1a6a0f86

Anyway, I hope this post saves you time prospecting! Definitely, want to bite the bullet and get another actual encounter soon so I can share how these girls perform in the bedroom, but damn there are just so many hurdles to even get to that point (schedules aligning, negotiating PPM, texting, etc) that often I'm just finding myself circling back to regular pros since they're less time intensive and come with REVIEWS.

Anonyminn
05-25-23, 12:41
https://members.seeking.com/member/af257d66-0d54-4fb0-9dbf-4e2b5acc63d7

On my recent trip to Phoenix, I connected with LoLovexo. She was very communicative throughout the day of our meeting and into the evening, and basically knew she was on standby if the SB I'd originally lined up fell through. After waiting more than an hour for my original date, I told LoLove I was heading back to my resort; she replied that she could be there in 20 minutes, which wasn't far off.

I found her very engaging, a great conversationalist, and worldly wise. I could have talked with her a lot more before getting down to business, but it was already late when she arrived. She initially wanted to use protection, but after a little discussion basically talked herself out of it. She immediately requested that I not come inside her however, offering her face instead. I neither agreed to nor rejected that request.

Sex was good; nothing earth shattering, but solid and repeatable at her 300-400 ask. After pounding her for a considerable amount of time, she surprisingly asked if I wanted to come in her, which of course I did. Right afterward however, she got up and said she needed to go because she had to work in the morning. She didn't even wait for her Uber to show up before leaving; I sensed that she wanted to bolt ASAP. We briefly discussed potentially meeting again later in the week, but neither of us reached out to do so.

I found her face quite attractive. I think she's a touch heavier than her pics suggest, but they're a solid representation of her appearance. I was glad she didn't have a lot of ink, with the one tattoo I noticed not objectionable in my opinion. Based on the ending however, I doubt I'll see her again.

FootSucker
05-27-23, 06:11
https://members.seeking.com/member/1275e1c1-79c8-4848-adaa-94a6abf3a636

Recently visited PHX to see family and messaged this one, but she didn't respond. Anyone talk to her or get that yet? She's gorgeous, nice full lips.

If she responds I'd definitely fly back just to take a crack at it.

DogTown997
06-01-23, 01:06
Hey guys,

If you're looking for girls that can host I've discovered a few.

Olivia.

Gorgeous 26 year old blonde. This girl is "traveling" and will be in Phoenix 5/15-20. It took a lot of texts to finally get her to open up about meeting up, her schedule availability, and a PPM rate. I'm not sure why Olivia was so tight-lipped and vague with her texts since Olivia's profile gives off pro or semi-pro vibes and even jokes that her profession is a "welder. " My guess is she sells adult pics or is a cam girl that is dabbling in the scene, but is hesitant. Olivia said she can host and I got her PPM down to 500. Really want to see her before she leaves town, but I'm a bit skeptical of going to her spot. Currently, trying to set up an initial M&G. As for the skepticism, I cross referenced her number and I couldn't find any professional ad listings. Also, a reverse image search of her photos yielded no adult content or urls despite her Seeking photos looking like they belonged on an adult site or Tryst! So this girl is a bit of a mystery to me.

https://members.seeking.com/member/36ac16b4-aca1-49dd-b940-daaec6cd3892

Bbyalexa.

23 year old cute "mixed" brunette that looks like she has either Asian or Latin in her. The pictures on her profile are really hot! She's very anxious to meetup going as far as immediately giving me her number after I sent my initial message on the SA website. After I texted bbyalexa she requested a photo of myself (typical pro move for screening) and she repeatedly asked when I was available. The constant texting almost made me want to block her. Her insistence is probably a red flag that maybe this girl has a handler and needs to get so many clients a day or something. Or maybe she's just a provider that is using SA and hates weeding through guys that are flakes or want a real sugarbaby to dote over. Regardless, her pics are very attractive in the face and body department, which has me tempted to TOFTT! Keep in mind if you decide to M&G she requires an additional 150 fee whereas if you just meet at her hosting spot you only pay the PPM rate of 500. Bbyalexa said she is also open to coming to your place, but the initial visit must be her hosting. Have not met her yet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5cb34377-883d-4dac-afe3-128790daabde

Neveah03.

23 year old Latina that looks to be a spinner. As far as her style, one of Neveah's photos on SA is semi-nude and another photo looks like she is in a stripper / professional dancer's locker room. I have not seen her yet, because she looks kind of trashy and wants a PPM of 400, and an extra 100 if she hosts. I feel like you see ads of girls that look like her all the time on EB, but for 300 so I think she's a bit overpriced.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e30af2af-5dd3-4e92-b466-ee3e1a6a0f86

Anyway, I hope this post saves you time prospecting! Definitely, want to bite the bullet and get another actual encounter soon so I can share how these girls perform in the bedroom, but damn there are just so many hurdles to even get to that point (schedules aligning, negotiating PPM, texting, etc) that often I'm just finding myself circling back to regular pros since they're less time intensive and come with REVIEWS.Olivia looks exactly like a girls I follow on Ig who is also a welder.

TommyWong
06-07-23, 01:44
Hey everyone, I'm new to the bowl. There was an account that created today that favorited me w / out viewing my profile. Usually I don't pay attention to those, but the location did say Prescott and the pic was pretty cute. Sent her a message and we were both looking for the same thing and took things to Whatsapp. We agreed on PPM amount and to meet at a hotel on Thursday. She did send a face pic, but when I asked for a picture of her holding up 3 fingers she blocked me on SA and hasn't responded.

It's a little suspicious that she didn't want to MG first, I brushed that off as driving from Prescott wanting to get right into it. Not sure what I did wrong or if I avoided a scammer?

TheSunDevil
06-07-23, 02:34
Hey everyone, I'm new to the bowl. There was an account that created today that favorited me w / out viewing my profile. Usually I don't pay attention to those, but the location did say Prescott and the pic was pretty cute. Sent her a message and we were both looking for the same thing and took things to Whatsapp. We agreed on PPM amount and to meet at a hotel on Thursday. She did send a face pic, but when I asked for a picture of her holding up 3 fingers she blocked me on SA and hasn't responded.

It's a little suspicious that she didn't want to MG first, I brushed that off as driving from Prescott wanting to get right into it. Not sure what I did wrong or if I avoided a scammer?First of all. The favoriting without viewing is a major red flag.

Additionally, the 3 finger request is just a visual confirmation. For the most part, anyone unwilling to do this is most likely scamming.

I think you dodged a bullet. Keep on fishing.

KingStannis
06-07-23, 13:59
It's a little suspicious that she didn't want to MG first, I brushed that off as driving from Prescott wanting to get right into it. Not sure what I did wrong or if I avoided a scammer?
I'd bet money on that being a scammer. You did nothing wrong. When girls don't want a M&G the vetting process is even more essential via picture / video verification and for the girl to opt out of flashing fingers is a huge red flag. That and like TheSunDevil mentioned a favorite without her even viewing your page is suspicious. I understand your suspicion about her not wanting a M&G, but those girls are usually my favorite as they're "ready to go. " Definitely, proceed with caution however!

TommyWong
06-07-23, 18:50
First of all. The favoriting without viewing is a major red flag.

Additionally, the 3 finger request is just a visual confirmation. For the most part, anyone unwilling to do this is most likely scamming.

I think you dodged a bullet. Keep on fishing.Appreciate the feedback. You guys were right. Even though she blocked me I can still see a bit of her profile from SA email and she changed her location to Provo, UT. Was probably going to ask for $100 for gas money.

XtremeCold
06-22-23, 21:18
What kind of pictures do you post on your profile? I know without pictures, not many girls will reply to my messages, but don't want my wife to find out about my profile.

GermanOwl
06-23-23, 08:10
What kind of pictures do you post on your profile? I know without pictures, not many girls will reply to my messages, but don't want my wife to find out about my profile.You can make your profile picture (or all pictures) private and when you send the first message to a girl you can share that picture with her so she can then see who messaged her. You can remain hidden on the search and dashboard so anyway you will not be shown, even if you do not have a subscription.

SpaSearcher
06-23-23, 12:09
What kind of pictures do you post on your profile? I know without pictures, not many girls will reply to my messages, but don't want my wife to find out about my profile.You could always upload a normal pic that you blur out for your public pic and then the un-blurred photo as a private pic.

KingStannis
06-30-23, 21:19
Hey lads, have some encounters to share with you! Hope this helps save you some time in your search.

Niche_612.

24 year old "black Barbie" college girl.

Offered her 400 PPM via texting and she settled on 450. I then did a M&G to see if Niche was worth it. Later during the actual encounter at my place Niche was fairly shy and awkward. She kept suggesting no sex and just a BJ. Niche also gave me the typical lie Seeking girls give "oh I haven't had sex in a long time" to try to get out of it. Finally convinced her to do more than a BJ and the CFS was just average. Overall she's a bit overpriced and not really worth your time. Her youth and appearance had me thinking 450 was a fair PPM, but in hindsight she's really worth no more than 300 or 350.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b0e15f89-8977-431b-a522-4c90f0c94409

Tat2 dLatina (no space in her name but the forum keeps adding it).

28 year old curvy Latina.

I proposed a 300 PPM via texting and she accepted with no haggling or complaint. Then we did a M&G, which was one of my better SA dates since she's good at conversing and seems to be a nice gal. The actual encounter at my place was so-so, however. Tat2 d felt loose with the CFS and I noticed stretchmarks so my guess is she had a kid or two. She's an odd girl. I thought I got a semi-pro or freak vibe from her based off of the SA profile and how she carries herself, but in reality the sex wasn't as fun. Tat2 d has a lot of cool tattoos though!

https://members.seeking.com/member/b925f8e7-4d51-4237-9036-210fffd289a8

Honorable mention:

Brightgorgeous.

19 year old petite Latina.

I was going through my SA inbox and deleting old messages when I remembered this young petite Latina I met this past January. Brightgorgeous was kind of fun when I saw her. I am unsure if she's still active as SA shows that she either blocked me or deactivated her account. If she is still active I think you guys should give her a shot! I am writing this to share intel if she's still active and not to brag. See if typing her username in the SA search yields any result since I don't have a member url as I am unable to access her page. Here's my report albeit a bit late. I think I didn't post about it back then since this SA board was so inactive and also because the experience could've been a lot better. In hindsight it has been one of my better SA encounters. Anyway, she has a petite spinner body and looks so young! Brightgorgeous agreed to a 450 PPM via text before the M&G. She was quiet and shy during the M&G, so if you're an introvert be mindful that it may be an awkward date. I always am sociable and chatty with girls during these M&Gs so I got her to open a bit, but it was a challenge. However, I did get some talking and giggles out of her at the dinner. The actual encounter at my place was a bit odd at first. When Brightgorgeous was undressing she was acting very submissive and embarrassed turning away from me and covering her boobs. It was weird. She claims it was due to the lighting in my place and that other guys typically have sex in the dark. I was thinking her excuse was bs, but whatever. I am 34, have a slim build, and although I'm not handsome I don't have an ogre face so surely I can't be so horrifying to look upon that a girl can only sleep with me in the dark! Really some of you guys are bedding hot girls in the dark? I want to see who I am sleeping with! I digress. I rarely do DATY, but since I wanted her wet and more comfortable for the eventual CFS I went down on her. Brightgorgeous moaned a lot during it so if DATY is your thing you'll enjoy it with this one haha. The actual CFS was entertaining with her moans and hot petite body. I decided back in January not to see this girl again, because she wasn't very tight due to her being a mom. At a 450 PPM I'd prefer the girl be tighter. I saw the pregnancy stretchmarks when I saw Brightgorgeous, but she still had a nice body! Would still recommend if you like hot petite Latinas.

Keikand
07-02-23, 02:44
I've had decent luck on SA so ill make it short wanting to phase out of hobby. Wouldn't mind people messaging me their secret ones since I'm sharing but personally phasing out of the hobby maybe a splurge but ultimately want to step out completely and put it behind me nothing wrong with the hobby just need to do other things as a young guy.

Poisonivy. Super hard to get a hold of I recommend sending small small gift looks like photo small and petite. Not into multiple rounds talked her into 2 and she was good and out right after.

Good Hygiene.

BBFSCIP, DFK - 400.

https://members.seeking.com/member/194d404c-8d46-47eb-8083-5905a0bc7441

Blue haired Vixen. One round photos are heavy filter decent looking in person.

Decent Hygiene Could be better.

BBFSCIP, DFK - 500.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f8cbe943-d1c1-448f-ac39-04c0d9ccf156

Gorgeousgirl123 - Ah very true good to be true but she is real very beautiful.

Very Good Hygiene.

BBFSCIP, DFK but not really into it, but she loved DATY. - 350.

https://members.seeking.com/member/09318ef7-ddd9-4703-b3c3-8f7b904d0c7a

Stephanie. Well this girl is honestly my favorite but she's got daddy issues if you know what I mean. Multiple meet ups not really someone I like to stick around when I'm done. She's a good girl but not really interesting to talk too at least for me. Please treat her well she's a good person at heart needs real guidance which will help her in the long run. Photos are accurate small gap in teeth but she's very young very tight perky breast.

Okay Hygiene Needs Improvement.

BBFSCIP, DFK - 250-350, Seen her couple of times First 2 meet ups she was annoying to deal with lots of attitude and was dealing with personal issues at the time but its still good craved more and affordable. 3rd time she was probably super comfortable with me she was wild so went 3 rounds. Probably wouldve been down for more but she was tired so I felt bad so I sent her home. I would personally see her more but like I said wanting to phase out of hobby I'm a young guy who needs to be doing other things.

https://members.seeking.com/member/48e57f6d-c2d1-46c2-be32-4f51b05bf6aa

SpicyMariaD. What a sexy latina photos don't do her justice absolute gorgeous face. And a fit body.

Very Good Hygiene.

BBFS (talked her into it add money) CIM, NO CIP, DFK - 600 Swallowed 2 loads like a champ. Rides you hard but no CIP.

https://members.seeking.com/member/712be773-8717-42d8-9bf8-257001a5d98b

LilRussianDolli. Lazy Eye, accurate photos lots of self harm scars, Preaches about god what. Not Repeat for me.

Bad Hygiene. My face was far away from down there but I committed when you're in the mood you're in the mood.

BBFSCIP, DFK - 400 Multiple Rounds.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a868697b-470e-44e9-ac4c-4e84fffa0598

Smami5 - What a cutie photos are accurate. Tight body perky boobs. She's very upbeat and entertaining. Not into BB which is fine.

Okay Hygiene caught her after work so understandable.

CFS, DFK seems really into it. - 350 multiple rounds.

https://members.seeking.com/member/aad94af6-3e24-4ede-9887-c7ebb0ed797d

Key Take Away here every girl is different. Some cut to the chase and others want to be serenaded into it. I would'nt be on SA if I wanted to serenade I would just date normally if I wanted to really work for it like that. My approach is very 1 sentence which is a yes or no response if not oh well if yes we talk price and meet up no bs no M&G BS.

Dsprdo
07-02-23, 20:14
Poisonivy.

Blue haired Vixen. One round photos are heavy filter decent looking in person.

Gorgeousgirl123 - Ah very true good to be true but she is real very beautiful.

Stephanie.Thanks for the report. I've seen Ivy several times, she is always friendly and personable. Blue Hair has been on the site forever, thought about seeing her but if she wants 500 I will cross her off the list. Been trying to get to Gorgeousgirl123, we messaged and were going to meet, then she told me she is not doing SA anymore, then she said she would still meet, then out of town. I want to do it at least once. I messaged Stephanie but she hasn't been on in a while.

Lyle416
07-02-23, 23:08
I've had decent luck on SA so ill make it short wanting to phase out of hobby. Wouldn't mind people messaging me their secret ones since I'm sharing but personally phasing out of the hobby maybe a splurge but ultimately want to step out completely and put it behind me nothing wrong with the hobby just need to do other things as a young guy.

Poisonivy. Super hard to get a hold of I recommend sending small small gift looks like photo small and petite. Not into multiple rounds talked her into 2 and she was good and out right after.

Good Hygiene.

BBFSCIP, DFK - 400.

https://members.seeking.com/member/194d404c-8d46-47eb-8083-5905a0bc7441

Blue haired Vixen. One round photos are heavy filter decent looking in person.

Decent Hygiene Could be better.

BBFSCIP, DFK - 500.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f8cbe943-d1c1-448f-ac39-04c0d9ccf156

Gorgeousgirl123 - Ah very true good to be true but she is real very beautiful.

Very Good Hygiene.

BBFSCIP, DFK but not really into it, but she loved DATY. - 350.

https://members.seeking.com/member/09318ef7-ddd9-4703-b3c3-8f7b904d0c7a

Stephanie. Well this girl is honestly my favorite but she's got daddy issues if you know what I mean. Multiple meet ups not really someone I like to stick around when I'm done. She's a good girl but not really interesting to talk too at least for me. Please treat her well she's a good person at heart needs real guidance which will help her in the long run. Photos are accurate small gap in teeth but she's very young very tight perky breast.

Okay Hygiene Needs Improvement.

BBFSCIP, DFK - 250-350, Seen her couple of times First 2 meet ups she was annoying to deal with lots of attitude and was dealing with personal issues at the time but its still good craved more and affordable. 3rd time she was probably super comfortable with me she was wild so went 3 rounds. Probably wouldve been down for more but she was tired so I felt bad so I sent her home. I would personally see her more but like I said wanting to phase out of hobby I'm a young guy who needs to be doing other things.

https://members.seeking.com/member/48e57f6d-c2d1-46c2-be32-4f51b05bf6aa

SpicyMariaD. What a sexy latina photos don't do her justice absolute gorgeous face. And a fit body.

Very Good Hygiene.

BBFS (talked her into it add money) CIM, NO CIP, DFK - 600 Swallowed 2 loads like a champ. Rides you hard but no CIP.

https://members.seeking.com/member/712be773-8717-42d8-9bf8-257001a5d98b

LilRussianDolli. Lazy Eye, accurate photos lots of self harm scars, Preaches about god what. Not Repeat for me.

Bad Hygiene. My face was far away from down there but I committed when you're in the mood you're in the mood.

BBFSCIP, DFK - 400 Multiple Rounds.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a868697b-470e-44e9-ac4c-4e84fffa0598

Smami5 - What a cutie photos are accurate. Tight body perky boobs. She's very upbeat and entertaining. Not into BB which is fine.

Okay Hygiene caught her after work so understandable.

CFS, DFK seems really into it. - 350 multiple rounds.

https://members.seeking.com/member/aad94af6-3e24-4ede-9887-c7ebb0ed797d

Key Take Away here every girl is different. Some cut to the chase and others want to be serenaded into it. I would'nt be on SA if I wanted to serenade I would just date normally if I wanted to really work for it like that. My approach is very 1 sentence which is a yes or no response if not oh well if yes we talk price and meet up no bs no M&G BS.How long were you on SA?

Hygiene seems to be a problem with many women.

Keikand
07-03-23, 00:15
How long were you on SA?

Hygiene seems to be a problem with many women.I can tell you the longer ones other ones. I didn't enjoy and didn't see a 2nd time. So others were less then an hour I wanted my pump then wanted them gone. Gorgeousgirl 2 hrs attractive and good hygiene is my standard. Stephanie is just a solid for nighttime fun 2 hrs. Maria was 2 hrs kinda torture to be honest she's like to be pounded but doesn't let you cip so that's kind rough but hey cim and swallows pretty hot. But I guess it depends on if they like you too. I found these girls most enjoyable. I'm young like less then 30 and very fit. Some of these girls wanted photos of you before they meet so maybe that's a factor. Smami was 1. 5 if she was BBFS I'd probably would've had her stay longer she does do BBBJ but idk about cim.

KingStannis
07-03-23, 14:46
Smami5 - What a cutie photos are accurate. Tight body perky boobs. She's very upbeat and entertaining. Not into BB which is fine.

Okay Hygiene caught her after work so understandable.

CFS, DFK seems really into it. - 350 multiple rounds.

https://members.seeking.com/member/aad94af6-3e24-4ede-9887-c7ebb0ed797d

Key Take Away here every girl is different. Some cut to the chase and others want to be serenaded into it. I would'nt be on SA if I wanted to serenade I would just date normally if I wanted to really work for it like that. My approach is very 1 sentence which is a yes or no response if not oh well if yes we talk price and meet up no bs no M&G BS.

Thanks Keikand for all the intel on these girls. I've been trying to see Smami, but she's not very responsive to texts and her late schedule is a drag since I'm an early riser. Wow so according to your post you didn't M&G any of the girls you mentioned? They're all "ready to go" girls as I like to say?


I can tell you the longer ones other ones. I didn't enjoy and didn't see a 2nd time. So others were less then an hour I wanted my pump then wanted them gone. Gorgeousgirl 2 hrs attractive and good hygiene is my standard. Stephanie is just a solid for nighttime fun 2 hrs. Maria was 2 hrs kinda torture to be honest she's like to be pounded but doesn't let you cip so that's kind rough but hey cim and swallows pretty hot. But I guess it depends on if they like you too. I found these girls most enjoyable. I'm young like less then 30 and very fit. Some of these girls wanted photos of you before they meet so maybe that's a factor. Smami was 1. 5 if she was BBFS I'd probably would've had her stay longer she does do BBBJ but idk about cim.I think Lyle416 was asking how long you've been using the website when he asked "how long were you on SA?" Nonetheless, that's impressive you had so many MSOG with those girls. Usually girls just want to immediately leave after I do one pop and kudos to your body's stamina that you could keep going multiple times.




Hygiene seems to be a problem with many women.I thought I was the only one experiencing that. A lot of SA girls aren't as fresh down there as pros.

Keikand
07-03-23, 18:24
Thanks Keikand for all the intel on these girls. I've been trying to see Smami, but she's not very responsive to texts and her late schedule is a drag since I'm an early riser. Wow so according to your post you didn't M&G any of the girls you mentioned? They're all "ready to go" girls as I like to say?

I think Lyle416 was asking how long you've been using the website when he asked "how long were you on SA?" Nonetheless, that's impressive you had so many MSOG with those girls. Usually girls just want to immediately leave after I do one pop and kudos to your body's stamina that you could keep going multiple times.

I thought I was the only one experiencing that. A lot of SA girls aren't as fresh down there as pros.Oh oops I misread. I met these girls within the time of 3 weeks of sending messages. Probably hit 1 every week.

Nope no M&G as I said I don't care for it I can date normally if I wanted it like that. But hey if someone knows one that's worth the m&g let me know.

DontKnowMe19
07-04-23, 21:29
So, I finally broke down and got a premium. All I can say, TONS of spam bots and TONS of GPS. I had no success there, aside from one girl, GPS and going back on our initial agreement. Other than that, maybe try in the fall or winter, when more college students come back and need assistance.

TheSunDevil
07-05-23, 10:34
So, I finally broke down and got a premium. All I can say, TONS of spam bots and TONS of GPS. I had no success there, aside from one girl, GPS and going back on our initial agreement. Other than that, maybe try in the fall or winter, when more college students come back and need assistance.My thoughts exactly. College season is when the competition ramps up too, so you'd expect the market to adjust. We will see.

KingStannis
07-05-23, 11:39
So, I finally broke down and got a premium. All I can say, TONS of spam bots and TONS of GPS. I had no success there, aside from one girl, GPS and going back on our initial agreement. Other than that, maybe try in the fall or winter, when more college students come back and need assistance.


My thoughts exactly. College season is when the competition ramps up too, so you'd expect the market to adjust. We will see.Hmm, I've asked this board before if SA has a different success rate for Phoenix depending on the season. I've been using SA for a year now and I did notice more message replies in November-December of last year than during the summer. Maybe you both are on to something, but I haven't noticed fewer girls online during the summer and I initially presumed with the heat and snowbirds gone there are less SDs to compete with so girls would be more receptive. Perhaps college girls leaving stabilizes the supply and demand. In the General Reports thread members were mentioning how this summer providers they saw before randomly have been reaching out to meetup again indicative of a potential slowdown in demand due to the economy or season. Of course the supply and demand of actual pros could be different from SA girls, but still something to factor. I am not sure what to think.