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traveler
04-12-02, 20:37
There have been some questions about Northern Virginia AMPs. I have visited almost all of them. F/S can be obtained at a few. HWC in Woodbridge is pretty good. Have been there about 8 times. Had F/S except on two occasions. Standard operation procedures are to lay your money ($100) on the table after your shower and before the massage. Makes the girls comfortable that way. Went to Cherub once and got F/S, but it wasn't really easy. Laying the money (again, $100) on the table was too enticing to the girl. I really don't think F/S is the norm there. Kim's in Annandale is not F/S or wasn't when Iwent. Older girls also there. They strip down and lay against you while they give you HJ. TK Therapy is good, but not F/S. Only went there once. It was the best HJ I've ever gotten. I have a regular place that I go to, but I won't give out the name here. They do not advertise and have enough clientel that they don't need to. They have asked to keep it quiet and I will respect that. The new AMP, "Spring" I think is what it is called. On Backlick. Got F/S but wasn't easy. Again, the money staring the girl in the face was too much for her. I kept telling her I refused HJ because it was for little boys and not men. If she wanted the money, she had to give F/S. Finally gave in. Was at SWC once. That is on Little River Turnpike. Didn't get F/S there. promised next time, but never went back. I would like to know where to get some Latino action. I have read some bad reviews about the place at 233 Florida Ave. I called there a few days ago and a girl answered. She said they had one girl from Venzuela. The pics at their site are fraud. Girls not there from what I gather. I would definitely like some latino action. I love their heavy black bush. I did see an advertisement in Washington online-Classifieds about a Young white couple who do 4-hands massage and the ad went on to state that old and extremely large men were "exceptionally" welcome. It is located about a block from Dupont Cirlcle metro. Anyone know about his. Sound's a little kinky.

fantasyzfreddy
04-13-02, 12:21
I have frequently been to this upscale private viewings place in the Tysons Corner area. NOT FS!!! Very nice, clean cut ladies, college ages. Are advertised on DCExotics as Angel's Touch, Dream Girls. Nice incall condo setting. Set prices for the last 5 years. Again this place is just private viewings and light massage. Prices are between $110-$200. Very attractive ladies with nice firm young bodies. If you just want to spend an hour or two enjoying the private company of an attractive, polite young lady in the comfort of an incall location. Strips down from casual clothing to fully nude. I was adding it up the other day, and found that I have spent about $5,000 here in the past 5 years. Several different ladies, all races and nationalities. Most natural, a few enhanced.

Maxwell
04-19-02, 18:50
This is sort of a test message. But I do have a question. Anyone been to the new place out on Lee highway that's close to golden?

fantasyzfreddy
04-23-02, 12:52
A year or so ago I got an incall with a FS provider in Springfield named Collette. She advertises on Eros DC. Session was $200 for an hour. She was about 40, white, black curly hair, large breasts and a serious multiple personality disorder which makes her think that she is a reincarnated Marilyn Monroe.

Her incall location was in a very nice condo complex, all sorts of 50's memrobilia on the walls. Sort of like going to Hard Rock Cafe to get laid. She was very into the session and open to different positions. Strong accent, hard to understand sometimes. But heck you aren't there to chat with her.

fantasyzfreddy
04-23-02, 13:09
Speaking of incalls, went to a place in Fairfax off West Ox Road called Erotica Entertainment about a year and a half ago. Major RIPOFF!! First they had me wait for 45 minutes in a grocery store parking lot cause the girl wasn't there yet. Then the girl I did see wasn't the one described on the phone. I had been quoted $140 for an hour FS on a Sunday. I get there and the girl says that because of the 45 lateness thing I only get half an hour and they don't do FS on Sundays, let alone only do Greek on outcalls (which I didn't want at all) but please hand over that $140. She refused to do anything other than strip down, back massage and HJ. She was Hispanic with bleached blonde hair, small deflated breasts, college age.

Frankly I have had many, many incall and outcall providers in my day and I have never been with one as banged up as this chick. She had scars, bruises and scabs all up and down her legs. She claimed she was in an accident a couple of weeks before. Even caught her peeling a scab off during the session.

Basically she tried to pull the old "the bouncer is going to come in here and throw you out soon" even though there sure as heck wasn't anybody else in that condo. She got real pissed off when at the door she asked me if I was going to come back for more and to told her I didn't think so.

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Apparently these college age, newbie providers nowadays think their snatches are lined with gold or something. Charging $100-300 for crap.

fantasyzfreddy
04-23-02, 13:26
Lets see... Other FS providers in VA that I have personally experienced.

On Escort America there is a African American/Puerto Rican lady who advertises as Veronica in Woodbridge/Dale City. 5'5", 123lb, 36D-28-34 Brunette Hair, Green Eyes. Last saw her about three years ago but I believe she is still practising her art. I paid $200 for FS. She has an incall location in what looks like a foreclosure house that she is fixing up. She supposedly had other girls she did referrals for. One was a blonde lady who was finishing up a customer when I got there. Veronica really didn't make me see fireworks, I mean she was attractive enough, just not a perfect hour glass figure. She was fairly business like, take off your clothes, jump on board... Wham bam put your pants on man. Basically if you are looking for a warm wet place to shove your little American hero for an hour or two. Definity double plastic wrap and don't go down to lick the lollipop, you might come back up with some other guy's sloppy seconds.

BobPentagon
04-26-02, 15:10
Traveler, Your post said that you visited TK Therapy once. That is the one off Rolling Road near Old Keene Mill? Any recommendations on who to ask for and any special issues. Thanks

traveler
04-26-02, 16:01
Bobpentagon, I had a girl named Sunny. She was so-so in looks. But gave a fabulous massage. No FS there. Just a really good HJ. I tipped her $40.00. She didn't ask for it. I mainly tipped her for the great massage. When she started the HJ, she lifted her blouse up and let me fondle her tit. But that was all. Very sterile atmostphere. But if you want a really good massage and a HJ, it is good.

luv2luvladys
04-28-02, 11:04
Went to Golden 3 times this month. First time was cute little chubby girl named Judy , very friendly , nice tits, very enthusiastic massage and table shower. Promised me f/s if I come back and see her? Haven't been back when she was there yet.

Second visit saw coco , older , slender, nice big tits, got totally naked and gave me the best massage and let me play with everything. But no F/S at all.

Third , Lisa , very pretty , slender nice tits, very soft and nice massage and table shower. No F/S .

Going back tomorrow after I visit afterhoursdc in DC!

Lisa told me the girl with the short red hair was named Sue, so I'm wondering if there's more than one or if they change names during their shifts?

Anybody know the address of HWC in Woodbridge? I may stop there tomorrow?

traveler
04-29-02, 20:33
luv2luvladys, Look in the Washington Post in the Sports Section. HWC advertises in there. Really easy to get to, but I can't remember the streets. You take the Occoquan exit off 95 going south. Again, I don't remember the street names. Get the address and put it in Yahoo maps for the driving directions. It is in one of those office complexes, all one story. Just has HWC on the door. I have gotten FS there every time except twice. Been there 8 or 9 times over the past two years. All the girls are 8s and 9s. Just lay your money $100 on the table after your table shower. Sometimes the girl who does the table shower is not the same one you see. I have never had the same girl twice in there.

fantasyzfreddy
05-01-02, 18:40
Speaking of offline places to find possible sources of providers...

In the back couple of pages of The Washingtonian. Back by the massage and entertainment, several independent escorts advertise there.

I used to glance through these and compare to the online ones for pictures, but some you just gotta stick your leg out and go for. I believe if memory serves me that I have gotten FS from about two or three of the young ladies I found in the Washingtonian.

It was interesting about a month or two back a reporter from The Washington Post in the Sunday magazine did an article about some of the flak he had gotten from one of his fellow reporters at The Washingtonian. The Post reporter had made a comment about all the nefarious massage ads in the back of The Washingtonian. The Washingtonian reporter had responded by critizing the number of massage ads in the Post's Sports section. So the reporter from The Post went out to a massage parlor he found in the Sports section and very deliberately attempted to get just a massage. Apparently the ladies at the massage parlor thought he was a bit of a wacko for only wanting a massage. Which he did in fact get, just a massage. Thus proving his point that the ads in the Sports section of The Post for massage parlors are in fact legitimate massage parlor ads. Very interesting article from my point of view given what we really know that happens at massage parlors. Quite humorous for reading between the lines.

Maxwell
05-02-02, 11:15
freddy,

I don't know if you are talking about an article by Weingarten in which he went to one of the massage parlors. I read that too, and saved it. It is really good for laugh.

fantasyzfreddy
05-03-02, 09:56
Yep, just did a search on The Washington Post website in the Archives section and got this hit. I don't want to pay the $2 to download the entire article for you guys but here is a blurb.

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Gene Weingarten
September 2, 2001; Page W3
Section: Magazine

Have you ever gotten so darned angry at work that you just had to grab $60 from petty cash and head off to a massage parlor? Me, too. I was steamed because of a letter I had received from Joel Oxley, general manager of Washington radio station WTOP. Oxley objected to a recent column in which I criticized his station for airing ads that offered a cure for a scary-sounding-but-nonexistent medical condition. You are throwing stones from a glass house, Oxley wrote: The Post runs

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Oops, I was off on a few details, but that is what it was. If any of you guys saved your Sept. 2nd. 2001 Washington Post Magazine from the recycling bin or bottom of your kids bird cage, it is a great review.

travlinman
05-05-02, 21:09
First time posting. Went to AMP called "Kim's" in Annandale - advertizes in the Post.
Met by Anna - give her a 5 or 6 on the looks scale but very nice. Asked for FS but was told "not here".
Excellent massage but that little something extra was missing.
$60.00 for 1 hour with HR and gave a $60.00 tip.

Hugh Jardon
05-07-02, 14:05
Travlinman, you're ruining it for us locals! $60 for HR? The average tip around here is $20 for HR, $40 for HR with something "extra" like Russian, Asian, etc., $60 for CBJ, and $100 for FS.

Bysshe
05-08-02, 09:53
Review: SWC on Little River Turnpike. I've been there maybe ten times, all told. 100% Asian, never gotten FS there. There have been a couple of times where the girl added some nice extras, like serious and playful attention to the asshole during ther massage -- which I like -- and twice when the girl actually slipped a condom on her finger and lubed it up and started some serious prostate massage... which I was frankly a little tense about, and asked her to stop. But if that's your thing, you might locate it here.

Typical prices: $60 / hr, plus tip... I've usually left $30-$40 for the HJ, and the girl that went mining for gold back there got a $60 tip. Hey, she tried; it wasn't her fault I'm uptight.

Bysshe

CT Hobbyist
05-14-02, 08:30
If any of you are looking for incall, go to
http://www.eros-dc.com/eros.htm and click on the bodyrub or massage link. Some of those girls are in the NOVA area. Most provide full service, unless specifically specified in the posting. You can also find girls in the escorts list as well. Hope that helps, enjoy! Oh, there is also a virginia section, and that might have something good as well!

fantasyzfreddy
05-14-02, 17:20
Wondered when he would get around to spamming on the Virginia forum.

Anyways... The topic of my rant today is: How much is too much?

In relation to these new providers charging $250-$400 for an hour of FS.

Times are tough right now, layoffs rampant. Women are more and more turning to providing adult entertainment services as a way to supplement their income. But does the fact that a woman knows how to spread her legs for an hour justify charging these absurdly high prices? Understandably if you are attending an incall session at her apartment or in a hotel room she arranged, you are essentially paying to rent that room for the hour, the girl and the deed are just complimentary entertainment. More and more I am seeing new providers popping up everyday, charging these high prices and laying claim to being the hottest GFE around. Frankly they're not. The fact that they know how to satisfy their boyfriends or their pimps, doesn't necessarily qualify them to provide a GFE to every guy who walks in the door.

I don't know. I am just getting tired of every new provider thinking her snatch is lined with gold and thus worth charging you $300 to stick your pud up in there for an hour.

traveler
05-14-02, 17:51
Fantasyzfreddy, Your right! I do not understand why anyone would patronize these places. Why would anyone go and pay $300 or more for something they can get for $100 at an AMP? True, it normally comes to $160 by the time you pay the house. But I can tell you from experience that the round-eyes really do think their pussies are lined with gold. The way to stop the high prices is to not patronize them. I can truly say I have NEVER been ripped off at an AMP. Can't say that for escort services or an American MP. Traveler

Clix
05-14-02, 20:50
That CT guy never misses a trick to pimp his board or whatever.
Thanks for point that out. I noticed his posts everywhere, but never paid no mind to them.....pure SPAM!

traveler
05-17-02, 18:22
Went to HWC today in Lake Ridge. Had great FS. Beautiful girl. The best I have ever had there. She gave a great massage. In fact, she gave such a good massage that I was beginning to think that she was not going to be FS. But when she was finished, she leaned over and whispered in my ear "Do you want anything more". I told her that yes I did and my money was already laid out for her. She apparently had not noticed. $100 as usual. She left the room briefly, returned, and stripped down. I started to turn over on my back but she insisted that I stay on my stomach. Then she started the senuous massage stuff. She climbed up on my and started humping her pussy into my ass. I could feel the hair on her pussy as she humped me. Pretty soon I could feel her pussy getting wet. Really amazed me. Then she started rubbing her tits all over my back and ass. Nice tits too. big nipples. Finally she turned me over and sat on my stomach facing away from me. She started sliding back and forth. Pretty soon I could see the wettness glistening on my stomach from her wet pussy. Pretty soon she backed her ass and pussy right over my face and went down on me. she slipped the condom on with her mouth and then started giving me a really great BJ. And brother, I started eating pussy. She had a really nice clit. Nice and big. It swelled up nicely from me licking and sucking it. She really gave you the feeling she was enjoying every minute. After doing that for awhile, still facing away from me, she slipped on down and planted her pussy right on my dick. I watched that bad boy disappear inside of her and she started that back and forth motion. This was sort of a laying down dog fashion fucking. I could watch my dick disappearing in and out of her. Finally I told her to lay down on the table and I climbed on top. Finished up in the ole missionary position. Some of the best Pussy I've had in a long time. Her name was mimi. A different girl gave me the table shower. I got a big erection on when the girl was doing that. When she finished drying me off, she took me to the room. She told me to lay down and she would get someone to "take care of that". A great visit. I have been there many times. Only twice have I not gotten FS. I would really like to try out that place mentioned in Newington near Cosco. If someone could backchannel some info on that, I would really appreciate it. traveler_va@hotmail.com. Thanks in advance.

November
05-17-02, 22:23
Damn, As far as paying $250-$400 /hour for F/S as fantasyfreddy mentioned, Go to Amsterdam. In March,
during a 5 day/night stand i was serviced by .....

2- Asain window girls
2 - Asian massage girls
2 - South American girls
2- African girls
4- Dutch/Euro girls

There wasn't a dog in any of them and I probably spent less than
$1000 for the week including tips...living in the Wash., DC area
where you pay $100-$200/hr for a hit or miss experience. I paid $700 for RT air and hotel. The bonus being that I had my days to see the city, enjoy the weed and live the euro experience. Its still a good deal

FnNewGuy
05-22-02, 18:10
Anyone have info on Golden, on Lee Highway? I found it lookin around on th net last nite, just a little curious. Thanks!

FnNewGuy
05-28-02, 18:10
Originally posted by luv2luvladys
Went to Golden 3 times this month. First time was cute little chubby girl named Judy , very friendly , nice tits, very enthusiastic massage and table shower. Promised me f/s if I come back and see her? Haven't been back when she was there yet.
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I went to Golden last week, also had Judy. Everything you said is true. She was truly awesome!!!

TrashMan
05-28-02, 21:22
Invitation to local mongers: I had a partner in crime lined up for a 2 on 1 gangbang with a willing and eager participant, but he's had second thoughts and canceled. This is in a DC location.
Participants are 25 years old, 36DD-24-36 couple to choose from.
Serious interest only please! I will back channel email you details.
If you have any doubts, see Baltimore post from Incognito.

FnNewGuy
05-29-02, 14:50
Where'd everyone go??? Well, I'm hooked, went and saw Judy at Golden AGAIN last night. She was even better than last week. Had a little semi-Russian action, until I gave her a little pre-*** on the chest. She seemed a bit horrified by that for a moment, and then continued on, (hands only this time!). I would like to sample someone else there, but how do you do that without hurting your "regular" girl's feelings,and can anyone reccomend another girl there? Or am I thinking too much? Anyway, enough babbling for now, take care all.

dcstud
05-30-02, 22:44
I found a bunch of reviews on Golden here:

http://www.sex-reviews.net/Reviews/Display/parlor.php?city=Washington+DC&type=Massage+Parlor

Golden isn't FS, but it's a nice way to pass the time.

XNYer
05-30-02, 23:11
Traveler, can't seem to find an address or phone number for HWC, looked at the Wash Post and Yellow pages...nothing. Can you please help? I found a LapDance place at Maryland, buck a song with a $10.00 entrance fee (BYOB), nice place to play for an hour or 2.

dcstud
05-31-02, 00:40
HWC
12504-D Lake Ridge Drive
Woodbridge, VA
(703) 499-9669

traveler
06-01-02, 16:31
XNYer, to get to HWC, take I-95 south towards Richmond. take the Va-123 North exit towards Lakeridge/Occoquan, Exit #160. Continue on Gordon Blvd for approximately 2 tenths of a mile. Turn left on Old Bridge Rd. Go approximately one and two tenths miles. Turn Right on Clipper Dr and then almost immediately left into a business complex, all one story buildings. It is located at 12504D. It is in one of those that are located in the middle of some other buildings. There is a realtor office beside it. It has HWC on the door. Traveler.

November
06-01-02, 18:17
Ok....Bottom line....Is there a place where I can expect to get a F\S in NOVA???? I am not interested in childish places where the girls tell me that if I return for a 2nd, 3rd or more time....she will
give it up.

I am simply interested in throwing some cash at these ****** and fucking them. That goddamn D. Duncan in Montgomery Co.
fucked up the good honest AMP business because he thinks that
he is making us all moral....What a cocksucker!!!!! That SOB is
probably banging teenagers behind his wifes back.

Creeper
06-01-02, 18:36
traveler - does HWC have regular hours on Sunday (not that all the girls are church - lol) but I'm heading up and am going to check it out.... and how is the parking - descrete? Thanks

CREEPER

traveler
06-02-02, 17:31
Creeper, I think they open around 10AM on Sunday. They are located in a business complex. Even though they are amongst a bunch of other offices, I would consider it discreet. Of course, someone could watch you stand there and buzz the buzzer and wait for someone to open the door. The trick is to find them there in the complex. There are signs all over the place with the addresses on them. They are in 12504D and it is located behind some other offices. But you can see them from the parking lot. Traveler

Creeper
06-02-02, 20:28
After "Travelers" excellent reviews about HWC, I decided to check out the place... I was very impressed with the location, being that it was professional, new and clean. Rang the bell, and a older girl probably in her early to mid 40's answered and led me into a room. Uh oh.... is this the Mamasan or massuse? She asked me for $60 and then asked if I had been there before.... I lied and said a long time ago. Not knowing if this was to be my massuse or not, I politely asked if I could possibly see all the girls. She had very strange look on her face and kind of mumbled "oK". And then left the room.

Well, I strip down, and needless to say, I did not get a line-up. But the girl that was sent to my room was a plesant surprise. I think her name was Cheryl or Sheri... one of the two... I believe the first. Anyway, 5'3", early to mid twenties, no more than a 100#, very small breasts... A cup, but notheless a beautiful tiny body. Her face was about a 5 when I first checked her out, but it grew on me throughout the session to about a 7.

She led me into the shower room and gave me a decent shower paying attention to all the important parts. Her english is pretty good but there was some mis- communication. Went back into the room where she proceeded to give me a quite good massage for about 15 minutes. Then she started to do the usual finger dance on my ass and balls..... She told me to turn over and did the same thing on my front. Then gave the old h/r signal with her hand. "No I want the Full massage", I said. She looked at me very strange and then I pointed to her pussy. She said, "No", and asked "when I was there last and who I had" I made up a story about a previous time there. And then she left the room. I was starting to wonder, what the hell was going on because she was gone for about 10 minutes.

She came back and closed the door, and gave me the old, thrusting hips with the arms sign. I never saw that before in a AMP, and found it amussing. She told me, to be very quite and she was scared because I was her first customer of the day. I don't know why that makes a difference, but I told her I wasn't scared so lets do it..... She striped down and had a beautiful body. Got into the 69 position and put the rubber on. She didn't last long there, maybe 2 minutes and rode me on top, then missionary, doggie and I had her finish me with hand release.

She was not the most enthusiastic, but was good. Like I said, her body more than made up for it. Also she did seem a little rushed but very nice. After that, it was over, cleaned me up with hot towel, but did not offer to finish the hour.... only 15 minutes but.... well she dressed me all the way down the the socks (which she did put on inside-out, but I'm not paying her to dress me :)).

I got all this and I never even discussed a tip with her.... left her a 100 spot and was on my way. To sum it up....

HWC Accupressure

Saftey/Clean 10
Body 9.5
Face 7
Service 7
Massage 7
Overall 8

Definitly check it out, beatiful girls and F/S. At 10:30am on a Sunday I heard the bell ring 3 times including me, so I'm sure it gets busy .... Best LUCK

Creeper

FnNewGuy
06-03-02, 20:17
I saw on another board that Golden closed??!! Did anyone else hear this too? On another note, last Friday I noticed a place on Backlick Road, near the FFX County Pkwy. There was a hot looking black chick walking around out front talking on a cell phone. Has anyone been there, and what is the name? I was looking at the girl too hard and noticed the "Spa" sign too late to catch a name or even the address. I havent been able to get by there since. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, and good luck in your searches!

Bön
06-04-02, 14:15
Traveler,
How tall would you say Mimi was?

traveler
06-04-02, 18:41
Bon, Let's see, I am 5"10", when we (mimi and I) were in the 69 position, with her pussy in my face, accounting for the fact that she was on her knees, I would say she was in the range of 5'2", give or take an inch or so. FNNewGuy, that place on Backlick is the "Spring" Spa. I have been there once. Got FS, but felt like I was just lucky. I had laid my money ($100) on the table. She wanted to just let me eat her while she jerked me off, but I refused. Told her the $100 was for FS only. I think she got the feeling I was going to walk without giving her anything. She had already stripped down and was in the 69 position with me. She finally came through and gave me full service. Laying the money on the table and letting them see it helps. It is a big tempation to some. To others, no big deal. It just depends upon the girl. BTW, it is an Asian AMP. Didn't see all the girls however. Like Creeper's experience at HWC, sometimes it is good, and sometimes not as good. I have never had the same girl twice at HWC and have been there many times. Service is rated from Absoutely fantastic to mediocre. Twice out of maybe a dozen times I didn't get FS at HWC. Traveler.

FnNewGuy
06-04-02, 19:06
Thanks for the info on Spring spa, Traveler. I may give it a shot one of these days. I plan on checking out HWC soon. From what all of you write on here, it sounds like I cant go wrong! Thanks again!

monkeysarefunny
06-04-02, 21:33
Anyone with any info OTHER than a AMP in Northern Virginia? Thanks

AMPLover
06-09-02, 20:00
As you can tell by my login name, I absolutely love Asians and the excitement of AMPs. I'm moving to West Springfield and would like to get a good, consolidated rundown of the AMPs (and regualr strip clubs) in the area relatively close to where I'll be living. I'd greatly appreciate information from anyone who knows the local spots...including the addresses (or at least street names) since I don't know my way around yet.

BootyLover
06-11-02, 09:01
i'll be reston next week, any info on round butted open minded ladies here? be it independent, amp or else? as long as they are freaky, it's ok.

Preference for 36+butts

November
06-14-02, 19:51
I saw two places advertised in the Post Sports section. One
was called K. Accupressure and the other is called Best Therapeutic. They are in Chantilly within a few doors of each other on Sullyfield Circle. Has anyone tried these places and, if so, are they typical rub & tug AMP's ? There used to be places in Montgomery Co. Md but I think the LE there shut them down
for the most part. Finally Sun Star Oriental Massage in Fairfax...Any experiences there. I am just trying to find a place that offers F&S ultimately.

November
06-18-02, 05:58
OK...I went to Best therapeutic on Sunday. Typical $40/$60
AMP action. I bought an hour and got an attractive late 30's
Korean woman. Good table shower...decent massage and
manual release. I tried to offer her extra cash to give
F and\or S but she would not have it. she would only lift her shirt and let me suck her tits...which, by the way were quite large for an Asian woman. I will continue on this expedition to find a qualifying F&S establishment in NOVA. I miss Amsterdam but with plane fares hovering around $800 RT, I will probably wait
until winter. I do miss the no bullshit aspect of the place though.

traveler
06-18-02, 19:20
November, check out the postings for HWC. You can be pretty much assured of getting FS there. Traveler.

FnNewGuy
06-25-02, 16:55
Hey all,

Anyone hear of some SW in the area of Potomac Mills Mall? I wont go into detail of the exact location for obvious reasons. If anyone knows, leave a post. You can be vague, I know the spot, just need to confirm. Thanks!

fantasyzfreddy
06-26-02, 22:58
Heard an interesting rumor...

Supposedly there is an anti-prostitution group out there who is fed up with lack of police prevention of full service massage parlors. Also they are under the impression that some massage parlors are using the customer's cash to finance terrorist activities overseas. Therefore they are sending in their own undercover operatives ...with... get this ...counterfeit $10 and $20 bills to pay for the services. The plan is to report the massage parlors as manufactoring & distribution points of counterfiet money, seeing how they will have large amounts of counterfiet cash at the locations or wait until the massage parlors attempt to deposit the cash into their bank accounts and/or transfer the funds overseas.

November
06-27-02, 16:45
Ironically, little over a year ago I seldom saw any MP advertised in the Washington Post for NoVa. All the ads were in DC or Md. Then Montgomery County, Md LE began full scale harassment and either drove them out or underground. They would just givesome non-cop some cash and tell him to go in and let them know if they would sell him sex. The cool part is he had to go all the way with it to make it real so he was gettin laid with police cash and no worry about getting busted. I wish somebody would tell me where I can get a gig like that!! haha. I'd get laid and come back out and tell them that there was no sex offered but the goddamn massage cost $160 !!!!

I would enjoy what you can because I am sure that Fairfax & Prince William Counties have noticed the sudden influx of MP ads in the paper and these places are probably under surveillance.....more for morality reasons than any far-fetched scheme to support worldwide terrorism. If they are gonna bust, look for it to be very close to the local county elections so that some goddamn prick politician can run for re-election claiming that he "cleaned up the county and restored family values"....

fantasyzfreddy
06-28-02, 10:26
It does raise a point...

How would the adult entertainment industry react if male customers were to suddenly start scanning $20 bills on the home scanner and printing them off on their inkjet printers to give as payment to massage parlors, escorts, dancers and strippers. I have seen a couple of providers online who are request pre-payment through PayPal. I gotta say that it would make me feel alot better about being ripped off by a fraudulent bait and switch operation if I knew that the preps weren't going to get very far on the "cash" they stole from me. You think they are going to roll over on you when they get nabbed for distributing phony money. "Oh yeah officer I solisited some guy for sex the other night then had my pimp chase him out of the motel room with a shovel while I emptied out his wallet which had this monopoly money in it. So it is all his fault."

Hmmm... Basically it is all about the money. Not at all about your personal satisfaction.

Frankly that asian hooker at the massage parlor whose legs are wrapped around your head as you are sucking some other guys jizz out of her hole is not looking at this as an erotic moment, merely more money coming out of your wallet into her pocket. The longer she gets you to shove your tongue up in there mining for fools gold, the shorter amount of time you will get to jam your stick around.

Not to be brutally honest or anything, but as a long time veteran of this "hobby" as it is called now... Getting you to orally satisfy the prostitute is the oldest con job in the history of the industry. Oh baby, oh baby right there... You are so good at this... You make me want to come... <-- Big time waster. She is fucking with your mind. You are there for one purpose, to pay some unknown woman to spread her legs for your hairy man meat. Get in accomplish the mission and get out. Zero emotional attachment and she isn't interested dating you either. She might be interested in a visa to live in the US, but chances are she will disappear the day after the wedding never to be seen again. And you don't have the biggest cock she has ever seen, don't have her play with it cause she has never seen one before... <-- Time waster #2. Oh and my personal favorite... Getting you to pay extra for the esteemed priviledge of eating her out.

November
06-29-02, 08:34
freddy...

Your right about oral sex with these girls. I would NEVER..
NEVER..stick my tongue into a working girls pussy and its
for all the reasons you mentioned. Hell, I wouldn't shove
my cock into them without a condom. I am strictly there to
clear the pipes.

Globetrotter
07-02-02, 20:05
Well, I finally let my curiosity get the best of me after reading all the posts on this board and decided to try one of the AMPs reviewed. It has been a very long time since I last did this and that was back in NYC many years ago. From reading the posts, I pretty much knew what to expect in terms of available extras and price, etc. so off I went to HWC in Woodbridge since that seemed to get consistently good reviews.

I am sorry to say that my first visit did not meet with my expectations and that will probably keep me from going back again. When I arrived, I asked the mamasan how many ladies were working and if I could see them first. There were two girls and to my surprise she readily agreed to have me meet each one so that I could pick my favorite. The first, Tina, was big busted (obviously altered), probably in her late thirties but just not my cup of tea. I'd rate her about a 6. The second was named Anna and was around late twenties. She had a very attractive face, about a 9 and an OK body though not as tight as I like them. I'd rate her about an 8 overall.

You all know the routine so I won't bore you with the details. After the shower and massage, the "extras" were brought up I handed my lady $80 with the intention of giving her another $20 if things went well. She basically had agreed to BJ (protected) and I just figured that I could progress to FS as things heated up. after about ten minutes, I let her know I was ready for the next step (FS) and she of course uttered her favorite English word - "money". So I hand her the other $20 to round it off to the $100 which seems to be the going rate from reading this board and she hands it back to me saying that is not enough. Not willing to pay any more than that I just let her continue with BJ and eventual HR with baby oil lubrication. Not a bad feeling but hell, I can do that myself and save $140. What made this experience much less satisfying than it could have been was not so much the unreasonably high cost of FS with this girl but the fact that there was not one iota of GFE. She barely allowed me to touch her. Certainly ruled out 69 - basically, anything that would have turned the excitement level up for me was not something she was willing to do.

Having been to SE Asia many times, I've come to expect a lot for my money. I realize this is not Thailand or Cambodia but still, I expect a better experience when I shell out $140. Perhaps it was just chemistry or the lack thereof but my first AMP experience was not a memorable one and probably not one I'll repeat anytime soon. Next time, I will probably head to DC and see if things are different there.

November
07-02-02, 20:57
Goddamn Trotter, For that $140, in Bangkok or Pattaya, you could buy 2 girls for a week and fuck them in any hole you wished.
The U.S. poisons women...They get the feeling that their pussy is paved with gold and they charge accordingly. Even these AMP girls...here on VISAS are told to charge these extraordinary rates,
And then you have to put up with them not undressing, etc. Hell,
i had one want to charge me $40 extra to play with her tits.

Fuck the US....I am saving for my winter trip to the Land of Smiles.

07-02-02, 22:57
November,

Why go all the way to Thailand? You can go to El Salvador or Nicaragua and get the same thing cheap. And airfare and travel time are a lot less.

Doodads

TrashMan
07-03-02, 00:10
You both are missing one point. I see all the time in various city posts guys who go on and on about how the US is a rip off, blah blah blah and how you should go to Thailand or South America or Europe or whereever. The point here is that all sounds great if you have the time. Many guys believe it or not are married and cannot explain to their old lady where they are going for several days out of the country. It just ain't gonna happen! So stop with the US sucks and realize that many are stuck here period ad have to make the best of it. Besides, the airfare is at least 300-600 plus hotel and meals so the cheap pussy is great, but there are other expenses that you don't incur locally.

November
07-03-02, 03:45
And to you Trashman, I say do what works for you. You
are correct about marraige. I am divorced and can come
and go as I wish. As far as the airfare and hotel, I try not
to make the trip strictly about sex. If I go to Amsterdam, I
sample the ladies and the weed sure....but I also try to
enjoy the euro experience. Same with Bangkok. I have been
to Amsterdam twice in the last 6 months and I did not
spend more than $700 for RT air & hotel on either trip.
Unfortunately, these trips do spoil you and anything that
you get back here in the states is a letdown. More power to
you....do the best with your opportunity.

Globetrotter
07-03-02, 12:59
Trashman

I agree with some of what you say. There is certainly the additional expense of travelling halfway around the world that's involved in going to Thailand, Cambodia, PI, etc. and I realize that those who are married aren't free to do that while others who are free might just not be able to afford it. That's fine and I understand that since I am now married myself and can no longer take those "fun" trips.

I think you missed the main point I was trying to make though and that is about the QUALITY of the service one gets in the US. I would be willing to pay the US rate, within reason, if I knew I was going get similar treatment to what I became accustomed to overseas. but that obviously doesn't happen here, at least not in the NOVA AMPs. Now, I know that my opinion is based on just one experience and that may be unfair but I get the feeling that what I experienced is probably representative of most AMPs, in NOVA at least. I can tell you that some years ago, when I used to go to San Francisco quite a bit, I sometimes went to one AMP where all of my expectations were met - and then some. Very similar to the SE Asia experience but only for the hour and at US prices of course. Although I once had an encounter in that SF AMP where the lady wanted me to stay with her the whole night and wasn't going to charge me anything extra. I guess that goes back to the "chemistry" I referred to in a previous post. The other factor, which I think was important is that the young lady was Vietnamese and, as I said in that previous post, VN women are usually much better sexual partners, not to mention the most beautiful in SE Asia, IMHO.

I still would like to know from anyone on this board if any VN action is available in NOVA.

I may attempt another AMP or two as some point but I am not expecting anything different than my HWC experience. Most likely, I will seek those types of services elsewhere such as Baltimore where good quality FS can still be had for a reasonable price.

November
07-03-02, 15:59
As a footnote, when I was in Amsterdam in March....and believe me, Amsterdam is more expensive than Asia, I bought 14 different girls in a 5 night/6 day stay...count 'em 2 AMP girls, 2 Asian window girls, 3 black African Chicks, 3 Spanish girls and 4 blond Dutch/Euro girls. The total amount expended was about $800 USD incliuding tips and the girls ranged in age from 19 to 38. Believe me, it was full service in each case. I couldnt fuck 5 girls in the US for that amount. A typical AMP in the US offers a shitty table shower where they throw warm water on you from a distance. At Chaing Mai or Love Club 21 in the 'Dam, the girl will get in a jacuzzi or hot shower with you to lather you up real good...then they will massage, suck and fuck you. I really don't know where I can get that much bang ('scuse the pun) for the buck.

Globetrotter
07-03-02, 17:32
November

Amsterdam sounds great. Heard a lot about it although I've never been there. Been to Europe a number of times but somehow missed that. Anyway I just wanted to reiterate your comment about Asia being cheaper. My last trip to SE Asia involved time spent in Thailand, Cambodia and the Philippines. At one club in Bangkok, I spent 90 minutes with 3 women at one time and anything at all was available - you name it and they did it, to each other and to me and did it as if they were my long time girlfriend. I liked one of the three so much that I took her to my hotel to spend the night and we had sex numerous times during the night and again when waking up. That entire adventure cost me a total of USD $100 and that was considered expensive - What can I say, I'm a generous tipper.

Cambodia - spent two nights in Phnom Penh and each night had two girsl with me for the whole night. Didn't get much sleep and it cost me only USD $25 for each girl. The agreed to price was actually only $15 each but I had such a great time I tipped them each $10

Philippines - about USD $40 gets just about any lovely to spend the night with you and they wil do anything and treat you like a king. It is not unusual for one of them to get up in the morning and actually go do your laundry for you.

THAT is what I refer to as QUALITY. Those women know how to treat a guy. Sure, most of them still do it only for the money but they make you feel like they are your girlfriend and that at that moment you are the most important thing in their life. That, my friend, is customer service, the likes of which you cannot find anywhere in the US.

I realize there is a very big difference in the standard of living between the US and those countries so that when I gave that $25 to those VN girls in Cambodia, that was as if I was giving them at least twenty times that amount here. That girl could easily feed herself and pay for her lodging for more than a week with that $25. Disregarding the differences in the value of money though, the biggest difference was in the SERVICE. You simply cannot get treated that way here in the US by any hooker at ANY price and THAT is the problem. We who engage in the hobby helped create this situation because we accept it since for many, if not most, of us, we either accept it or get nothing.

November
07-03-02, 18:57
Your absolutely correct...they do it for the money but at the same time they seem to have a natural sense of duty to make you as happy and comfortable as possible while they are with you. They
will absolutely pamper you. I have been to Bangkok and taken a
girl back to my room with no discussion of money and have her service me all night. In the morning I give her a nice tip and cab fare and send them on their way. For many of them, a night in your hotel room is considered luxurious by their normal living standards. They certainly do make themselves pleasant to be
around.

I guess we should get back to talking about Northern Virginia though. Maybe I'll swing back over to the Asia boards.....I feel
homesick now.

traveler
07-04-02, 19:21
Globetrotter, I counted at least two mistakes you made during your visit to HWC that probably cost you a really good time. First, you asked to see "the girls". Very insulting to Korean AMP girls. Makes them feel like "******". Secondly, you agreed to a lesser service for $80 and tried to "step it up" with a Jackson. Bad move. State what you want at the beginning, and pay for it. She had your $80 for a BJ. She didn't need the Jackson. On the two occasions I didn't get FS, I got a really good HR for one Jackson. I've been there "several" times and have gotten FS except on the two occasions. I have asked for a particular girl, but am always told, "they don't work here anymore". That is not insulting to them like asking for a "Line up". That is OK in a brothel, but not an AMP. Also, I have traveled the globe myself, having spent 30 years in the military. True, you can sure get some really good cheap ass overseas, but you can never compare it to the US. Your on a different playing field there. The economy is different and the cost of living much lower. But like Trashman pointed out, factor in your travel costs and it really isn't "Cheap" pussy. In fact, it is very expensive pussy. But a good experience nonetheless. Traveler

Globetrotter
07-05-02, 14:24
traveler,

I understand your point about asking to see the "lineup" and, to some extent, I would agree. The problem is - what do you do if the one chosen for you just isn't to your liking. Wouldn't it be equally offensive to them if you turned down their pick and asked to see someone else? I tend to be quite fussy and would never achieve satisfaction with someone whom I considered unattractive - so I would be wasting my money. How do you handle such a situation? I agree I screwed up when negotiating by being too vague up front about what it was I expected. We should have agreed on the service and cost before any money changed hands. That's a mistake I won't repeat.

As far as Asia vs. US. You're right - two different worlds entirely that can't really be compared. HOWEVER, again I want to stress my point, and that is about the quality of the service. It would be one thing if you could get the same quality service here (GFE with all the trimmings) at a higher price but you CAN"T, for the most part - not at ANY price. If anyone knows of any exceptions, I wish you would share them with the rest of us.

Enough said about Asia - I'm getting homesick too! but is there really anything worth talking about in NOVA. Would love to hear it.

Globetrotter
07-05-02, 14:39
Does anyone know of any AMPs where BBBJ is available with a fairly attractive lady? Read an article recently about a study on the possibility of HIV transmission via oral. The study involved numerous couples with each couple having one of the partners who was HIV positive. After an estimated 19,000 BBBJ events, there was not a single case of HIV transmission to the uninfected partner. Pretty conclusive if you ask me. Maybe this info needs to be shared with the AMPs.

November
07-05-02, 16:19
The Center for Disease Control in Atlanta has pretty extensive
info. As I recall, oral women on man is RELATIVELY low risk unless
there are open sores involved. Believe it or not, their studies with gay men even showed it to be a lower risk. DATY is even a lesser risk but don't listen to me...I would encourage you to check the CDC site out. I don't know the URL so go to Ask Jeeves and it will
hook you up. I know of no places in this area where an Asian M.P. girl will give you a BBBJ but you can always pick up a crack ***** streetwalker and get your knob polished. The fact is, the average AMP girl does not want to guzzle a strangers jizz and she
is not likely to trust you to pull out in advance.


Bon Appetit!!!

traveler
07-05-02, 18:58
Globetrotter, Never, and I mean NEVER, send a girl "back". To tell you the truth, I have never come across a really ugly girl in an AMP. True, there are better ones, etc. But not any really bad ones. The best piece of AMP ass I ever got was in Austin, Texas many moons ago. And the girl was not one of the "regular" girls. I think she was a "laundry woman". Not sure. But she gave me the best fuck I ever got in an AMP and it didn't cost me anything above the house fee. Unreal. And this is the absolute truth. I have never been lucky enough for that to ever happen again. Not sure why or how this happened, but it did. She was a little on the pudgy side and had to of been in her mid to late 40s. She wanted it. After we finished, we laid there together and before long, we were at it again. I was there on business and had to leave the next day. A few months later, I went back to Austin and beat a path to that place again. She wasn't there. They acted like I was crazy asking for her. They told me she wasn't a "working girl" and that she must have just been filling in because they were swamped. I spent a tour in Korea in the late 70s. I was a Kunsan. There was a place called A-town not far from the base. It was "sin City". A short time would run you around 10-15 bucks. An all nighter was around 20 bucks, if not cheaper. If you went to a brothel, they expected you to "line them up" and choose. But they still rotated the girls so that the prettiest one wasn't worked to death. I never chose the prettiest one because I knew she was probably fucked out. Anyway, don't be too picky and you may be pleasantly surprised. Traveler.

November
07-05-02, 19:23
Agreed Traveler...And those who insist only on 9's & 10's
are going to be often disappointed. And for the reason that
you mentioned and the fact that many of these "10's" have gotten into their head that they don't have to try as hard. I personaly dig Asian girls and I can find beauty in most of
them. I visited a Thai massage parlor once and got a slender, nice, very young (21 or so) and pretty Thai girl the 1st time around. The next time that I visited the same place, I got a Chinese woman who was pushing 40 but still had a good body. And you know what..? Given the choice, I would flip a coin and take either one the next time I was there.

Randy Farang
07-06-02, 15:40
Top of the day to you Traveler. Thanks to your recomendation, I've tried HWC twice recently after a bad experience at my favorite AMP in Washington.

On both occasions there has been no trouble in getting FS, and no questions on tips.

The first provider was Jane. About 5'6", B cup, maybe 110 lbs, and a 5 or 6. Her service was adequate, but mechanical.

Today I met Tina, and I'm sure the resemblance with Tina Turner is entirely premeditated. About 5'7", a full C cup (probably thanks to E. I. duPont) and a 7-8. Arm bracelet tatoo on the upper left arm and another tatoo at the base of the spine. What an agreeable experience! She was enthusiastic and responded favorably to each of my requests. Her oral skills were appreciated and were only a prelude to better things to come (pun intended!)

Having read many recent complaints about the quality of service available in this country, all I can say is the very worst I've had was pretty good, and the best (which would include Tina) were outstanding. I've been around awhile, and I've tried most everything at least once, and the people who ***** about either the quality or price of local services just have no appreciation for what we have available locally.

Randy

Globetrotter
07-07-02, 01:17
Just want to make some comments about the rating system we in the hobby seem to use so frequently in scoring the beauty of the ladies we meet. We all know that when one rates the attractiveness of a woman, it is purely subjective. One man's 10 is another man's 5 - as it were! Some guys like them fat, some like them thin. Some like big hooters and some like them small - you get the picture. Reading Randy Farang and his rating of Tina at HWC as a 7-8 only served to give further justification to the approach I take to mostly ignore ratings in these reviews.

When I went to HWC, Tina was one of two available attendants and the one I din't choose. I would rate her no more than a 5. To begin with, I find fake tits a complete turn-off so minus 2 points right there as she definitely had them. Her face was not attractive at all to me and that's at least another 2 points off. This lady, to me, definitely appeared to be past her prime and when I am the paying customer, I'd rather get someone that doesn't look like she's been around the block as many times as this lady probably has. Just my opinion, you understand but you guys need to remember that when you read these reviews, the ratings may not be in sync with your own standards.

As a point of reference in helping fellow hobbyists interpret ratings I may assign in future posts, here is a list of characteristics I consider pluses and minuses:

Pluses - pretty face, slim figure, perky natural tits, small curvy and well shaped tight butt and legs to match, Asian, shaved or naturally sparsely haired pubes, good skin and teeth, under 25.

Minuses - synthetically enhanced boobs (does anyone REALLY like those?, fat anywhere on the body especially the butt and thighs, old and worn looking face, ugly abdomenal stretch marks, saggy tits, sores and bruises, missing or bad teeth.

If I rate anyone a 10, you can bet she had most, if not all of my "pluses". For an 8 or 9, she has to have about 5 or 6 of the pluses and no minuses. Any minuses and the rating starts at 7 and goes down with the number of minus characteristics.

So there you have it - the official globetrotter rating guide. Pretty tough, I'd say but then I did say I was fussy. Look guys, we're the consumers in this hobby so when you're out there spending your hard earned cash, don't waste it on mediocrity or less - demand and only accept the best - whatever that may be for your individual taste.

November
07-07-02, 12:55
HaHa...

And if you can find that 10 with the good 'ol "Me
Soooo Horrrny...Me love you long time.." attitude, then
you really have something. On the other hand, if she has
the .."My pussy is paved with gold so don't tarnish it" attitude,
then the 10 can drop to a 4 or 5 very quick.

Randy Farang
07-07-02, 15:39
Not only is beauty in the eye of the beholder, but most of us have had experience with beautiful females, starting in high school, who KNEW they were good looking and firmly believed that that was all that was necessary. Hollywood is filled with beauthiful women who thought that they would conquer the industry based on beauty alone. As soon as it was discovered that they couldn't act thy were SOL.

What I'm usually looking for is someone who understands that the purpose of this exercise is to give me a really good time. I'm not taking her home to Mom, or to a high schoolo reunion, so looks sure won't be the only criteria. I want decent, safe surroundings, and, most of all, I want someone with the attitude that I am the most important person she has ever met and that my enjoyment and satisfaction is the most important thing in her world at that moment.

I never forget that they are actresses. In their minds I'm just another customer. But the best ones understand that I'm paying for a quality experience. If they have a good attitude they make it a delightful cresendo of tactile experiences leading to a memorable release. And external beauty, or lack thereof, has almost nothing to do with satisfaction.

I've had great experiences with barely average lookers, and terrible esperiences with great lookers. What I've found over the years is that attitude and willingness to work on ALL the erotic zones, including the one betwen the ears, makes, or breaks the experience.

If looks is the ONLY factor important to you, then that's your thing. As they say, different strokes for different folks. But I know I virtually always prefer attitude and willingness.

Randy

Globetrotter
07-08-02, 12:30
Guys,

You are all absolutely right. Attitude is very important and I never meant to imply that it doesn't count. The rating system I outlined refers to looks only which, is really all you have to go by the first time. Therefore, If I have a choice between a 7 and a 10 and I've never been with either before and don't know anything about the quality of their service, I will always opt for the 10.

That is not to say I don't go with 7s or sometimes less. Whether I do or not depends mostly on the availability and my level of horniness at the time. One thing I will say though is that with a 6 or less, even though their level of service might be great, I will probably not get satisfaction because I would be too turned off by the visual aspect of the experience. Some guys can get past that - I can't. On the other hand, I will make a lot of allowances for a 10 and will usually find a way to get satisfaction even in the absence of quality service.

I have had some great experiences within the entire range of 7 to 10 so I do try to keep an open mind.

SWCruiser
07-13-02, 12:37
Just to add to my last post, and to see if anyone had similar . . .

A while back (maybe last year even) I went to the porn theater on Duke in the plaza with the Mcgruders. I don't frequent the place, but had been once before and, aside from the fruits, its a way to kill an afternoon. Anyway, a guy came in with a woman - a bit ripe and on the heavy side, but at least definitely female. Anyway, they both came into the theater but the guy sat in the row behind the woman and to the side. A couple guys immediately got up and sat near her (leads me to think the couple were regulars) and, although I was a ways away, based on the noises and motion, it looked like she was sucking the guys off. I basically stopped watching the movie, I was so focused on what I could strain my eyes and ears to see and hear. Anyway, this went on for almost40 minutes, with about 4 guys coming and going (as it were). I finally got up the nerve and went over to sit near her. As i said, a bit ripe, but not a beast - hispanic? looking. She didn't say a thing, just reached over and pulled me out and went down on me right there. The public nature creeped me out a bit, especially with the guy so obviously watching over my shoulder and wacking. But, because of the situation (excitment) and her obvious experience in what she was doing, I popped pretty quick (I don't know whether she swallowed, but not all - my pants were a mess when I left). I left, kinda nervy what with all that happened, but also kind high off the whole thing.

I've been back a few times but haven't seen her - only found guys there.

Anyway, thought I'd give back to the board instead of just taking. I'd like to hear if anyone else has had similar, if this is more common than I thought (and if so where) and (per my last post) if there is any SW action in NOVA.

Thanks.

November
07-23-02, 16:49
Globetrotter...


I know...I know...and its no better in Montgomery County, Md.
or D.C. for that matter. I am booking for another winter trip
to Amsterdam.......or maybe Bangkok.

November
07-26-02, 17:51
Hey Freddy...

You and your pool shooting buddy should have quickly
negotiated the Ho down to about 20 bucks, took her
out back and double teamed her next to the trash
dumpsters with a bukkake finish. Somehow, that would
have been appropriate.

FnNewGuy
07-30-02, 16:30
Hey guys,

Sorry long time no talk! I have to agree with omeyer. I made my first visit to HWC last week, and also had Tina. I wont bother you with details, because it's pretty much identical to his experience. I'll go back just because of the positive reviews a lot of you have given. While I've been away from the board, I have also sampled Apple at Golden. What a go getter! Even though she's older, she still gave me great service. Take care guys and happy hobbying!

p.s. Identical experience, EXCEPT for the Viagra part!!!!

TrashMan
09-11-02, 16:46
Traveler,

Have an opportunity you might be interested in participation. Shoot me an email

TrashMan

Hank
09-12-02, 15:36
Trashman: I am a NY and CT poster and have left you a message on the baltimore board. Email me with NY FFest details.

traveler
09-17-02, 21:15
Kraft22, Yes I stick mainly with the AMPs, however I occassionally take in an Escort. Escorts are risky unless you get a recommendation from someone. I would never pick one out of the Yellow pages. Most are ripoffs. Escorts are generally expensive. Calvin just gave a good report on one. However, $300 an hour is a little expensive for my tastes. But it definitely sounds like he got his money's worth. I believe you will be satisfied with HWC. I haven't been there in quite awhile. Be sure and give us a full report when you have made your visit. Traveler.

insatiable
09-20-02, 18:33
Winchester:
i do not know the winchester area very well (live about 1hr away)but both times i have looked for sw i have found. 1st was on a weekday about 12pm cruised around an area along Kent st towards some lumber company to a right on kirby a right on highland and it T's off and you can circle this again. i made a few trips parked, took about 30mins til a light skinned small black chic came out in a mini skirt, about an 7 in face and body, found a spot and got bbbj and covered fs for 40. would like to find her again. 2nd time was today same trip, started about 1pm found a white girl decent body at 2pm, bbbjtc she asked for 20 i gave her thirty for swallowing. anyother info on the winchester/martinsburg wv areas would be appreciated

Bön
09-27-02, 04:44
I hope after election time is over that someone will clue us into these places. I've been passing through that area a couple times a week for the past 6 months and only now, after it got shut down, do I find out about it.


Thanks,

Bone

calvin
09-27-02, 09:47
monkeysarefunny,
I wish I own Downtown and/or Ginza, I would be rich and be satisfied by these ladies 24/7. And I am NOT a cop. If I was, then why would I be complaining about an independent escort ripping me off. Downtown and Ginza are two amp's that treated me well. Next stop is Supra, and maybe I own that too......hmmm

Globetrotter
09-27-02, 12:55
Hey guys! What place got shut down? I saw a post that mentioned something about Fox news reporting that a brothel had been busted in an industrial area of West Springfield but I've been unable to find the story anywhere. Was it the place by Costco in Newington that none seems to know about?

bighurt
09-28-02, 00:08
I saw the report on Fox 5 the other night. The place was an auto body shop in an industrial park in Springfield. There were a couple of guys and a couple of girls arrested (all Latino). Apparently, there was a similar bust in the same park about a year ago. The cops were coy about info leading to the bust (was it because of the past bust? Or, new info?).

haokan
09-28-02, 02:24
I recently tried the Herndon Spa. It's your typical AMP with the lay down shower. I got Joy. Average looking & her English is pretty bad. I've spoken to many foreigners in my day but she was difficult to understand. It took a while but I was finally able to understand what she was saying.

She went to work with an average massage. She was pretty reluctant when I made a move toward her tits. She did pull down her tube top and let me feel her up. I made my way down between her legs & slid my hand into her shorts & started rubbing. She seemed to enjoy it at first but when she heard the mamasan yell something in Korean from outside she pulled my hand away. I asked for more & she said they " we no do that". She gave me a HJ the rest of the way but the mood was ruined & I decided to call it a night before I could cum. I tried another girl a week later with better results. I will talk about her next time.

kraft22
09-29-02, 00:17
Decided to try out Herndon SPA on a Friday night. Arrived around 7:30, it didn't seemed to be crowded. Was greeted at door by older so-so looking woman (thought it was the mama-san) turned out to be who was giving me my massage. I fugured what the heck I'll give her a try..sometimes you never know what you will get. Kim took me to backroom and asked what I wanted said 1 hour massage. Paid the $60 and she told me to undress and she would return for table shower. She scrubbed me from head to toe and we went back to the room. I did not put out a tip in advance because I was not that attracted to Kim. She started giving me a light massage (actually it was more like a light back rub..she was not very good). I asked her to undress and she refused to do so. I told her I normally she either Tina or Sandy and she said that were both fired for proving customers FS and that she only gave massage nothing more. We talked quite alot while she rubbed my back side. I asked to give her a massage in hopes of getting her clothes off. Kim got on table and I lifted up her top and unsnapped her bra. She had these spandex shorts on and she would not let me remove them. I tried to play with her pussy and she said no that she had a tampon in. At that point I just let her massage me on the front side. She played with me for a while and then I released.

I will never waste my time or dime again with Kim. Even if she would give more I personally didn't find her that attractive. Hell, I was having a difficult time even staying hard with her.

FYI, Herndon SPA patrons. Word has it Tina and Sandy no longer work there so results may vary.

November
10-03-02, 06:42
***GLOBETROTTER***

I've been meaning to touch base with you on Bangkok. I am planning my 1st trip and would like to get some input on decent (ie:clean, safe and reasonably priced....not 5 star) hotel accomodations that are close to the action. This will be a hedonistic trip but I might try to see some sights as well. I have been reading Stickman and the Thai board here for info although the WSG Thai board gets a bit slanted by some of the expat posters., but I would like to get 1st hand advice. You can respond here if you wish or e-mail me at k9cujo@msn.com to avoid a lot of LOS talk on the Virginia board.

Thanks, in advance

Globetrotter
10-04-02, 23:55
NOVEMBER

I'll backchannel you soon with some info I think you will find useful. I need some time to put this together for you.

Do you know when you are going yet and how long you will go for? Also, Is Bangkok to be your only stop?

Globetrotter

traveler
10-07-02, 16:21
I had to go to Crystal City today on business. On the way back, around 3PM (about an hour ago) I decided to check out the SW scene reported on Evans Lane several posts ago. Saw two black chicks, both probably 6 or 7s. Lots of LE. And I mean LOTS. I am not positive if these chicks were SWs or not. But I would almost bet on it. I made only one pass through the area because of all the LE before getting back on Jeff Davis Hwy. Has anyone experienced any luck in this area? Traveler.

Globetrotter
10-09-02, 11:14
- NOVEMBER -

I e-mailed you the info I promised you yesterday. It's a pretty long report with several attachments. Let me know if you didn't receive it.

Jim2001
10-19-02, 13:02
I've checked out HWC in Woodbridge a couple times and can report that the advice on this message board (especially from Traveler) is right on the mark, especially on $100 tipping after returning to the room from the table massage. My first visit was standard stuff (rub and tug). Didn't get the name of the girl. Nice slender physique and above average face...somewhere in the 6-7 range. Saw a girl named Mina (pronounced Mee-nah) the second time. Went for the full package and got lots of questions from her as to whether I was LE. Might be because of the short haircut. She's about 5ft9 and a nice figure. Her massage was excellent but her attitude about the "full package" was rushed. She wanted to get it over with as soon as possible and the French she spoke was very toothy and somewhat painful. Not a great experience. Being perched up on a massage table is unwieldly and uncomfortable. The beds they have at Supra Spa in DC, by comparison, are a relaxing treat. Saw a Mimi there who was quite nice and took very good care of me for the full package. My impression of HWC is positive overall but I'm more inclined to check out the DC and Maryland action in terms of maximizing bang for the buck. I read where there's a spa near the Costco in Newington that's quite good. Everyone seems tight-lipped about it, possibly because it has European/International ladies offering full service at a decent price. I drove all over the Newington area near Costco and couldn't find this place. Lots of industrial parks and the occasional office building with a defense contractor or insurance company here and there . Request location hints on this place via backchannel.

I'm new to this board and do most of my hobbying outside the states, where the prices are far better, the beauty is sometimes staggering, and the LE risk can be minimal to non-existent. Amsterdam is worth visiting, guys. Between the RLD and top-notch escorts (Women of the World agency has a great rep for lovely international ladies (Dutch, Asian, etc.)), Amsterdam has a handful of top-notch gals that compete very well with gals from Germany, Prague, etc. The trick is avoiding mediocrity. Closer to home, I highly recommend Montreal, which has "Neiman Marcus ladies at Wal Mart prices", as one guy put it. A bonafide GFE can be found in Montreal without too much difficulty with a European/Asian gal with 8+ looks and a world-class attitude (deep French kissing, many positions, DATY, and sometimes BBBJ) . Montreal is about 600 miles from the greater DC area. A very long trip by car. Flights out of Philadelphia go for about $200 (round-trip) to Montreal. Cost per hour for the BEST gals in Montreal (independent escorts who are superb in every sense) is about $130-140 U.S. ($1.00 US buys $1.57CDN currently). Lesser-quality gals who are 6-7 (out of 10) can be had for $80-90 US per hour...and this is full service. Your dollar can go a long ways in Montreal. One downside is that some gals speak very limited English there (if you are fluent in French, that's a big advantage); the top gals are almost always bilingual. Montreal is a well-kept secret and Quebec seems to have an endless supply of young talent.

Jim
jdam1999@excite.com

fantasyzfreddy
10-20-02, 02:17
Sunday early morning... Horny with $200 in my hot little sticky hand. Guess what? I am shit out of luck. Couldn't get an outcall appointment in VA to save my life. Called all my old hold outs, places I have intimate and carnal knowledge, grandfathered in so to speak... but alas nada, zilch, nyet. The doors are closed and you can't get in.

SWCruiser
10-22-02, 14:45
Been checking out evans area regularly with no luck - what time are you seeing SWs in the area? I did hit the jackpot on RT 1 south, just past 495 - saw a filipino? girl walking near the bus stop, made eye contact and she waived me down when I turned around for a second look. The area makes me nervous cause there's LE everywhere these days. Can't recall the name, she's about mid 30s, maybe a 6 on the looks. no chit-chat, had her head in my lap as I drove looking for a spot to park. Covered bj that was more hand job than anything else - but good experience for $50. With pickings as slim as they are in NoVa, would take her again in a heartbeat.

Anyone have any suggestions on a more relaible source? More info on Evans, or another area to try?

pete650
10-22-02, 15:36
Does anybody know if Tina at HWC is the same Tina that worked at Herndon Spa ? She was fantastic at Herndon Spa in the old location, but went "on vacation"

traveler
10-22-02, 18:16
SWCruiser, I haven't checked out the Evans area in a couple of weeks or so. Not since the posting where I drove through there one early afternoon. More than likely, it is a nighttime area. Mostly a residential area and too obvious during the day. I am surprised that you found something on Route 1 South. Be careful, every once in awhile, the LE run a sting in that area. What time of day was it? Traveler.

SWCruiser
10-23-02, 17:08
traveler,

came across her just after 3pm. Been back over there but haven't seen her (or anyone else) since. Any other suggestions for hunting grounds? I havn't had the best of luck at AMPs - lost too much $ on 'massage only' or generally poor service. And if all I'm looking for is regular french, I've never found AMPs to be that promising. (AMP girls tend to use french as passing phase - not the goal.)

There's got to be some other options. Any thoughts?

traveler
10-23-02, 18:16
SWCruiser, Backchannel me at traveler_va@hotmail.com. Traveler.

Bysshe
10-23-02, 21:14
Well, well. I have found the spot that apparently is the oasis of SW on Rt 1 South. It was not a particularly attractive oasis, mind you, but what can you do?

I picked up a girl (late 30s. early 40s) that was, quite frankly, not exactly supermodel material. But my thought was that I'd close my eyes, imagine it was Katie Holmes slurping the slorge, and get some valuable intel about the area.

I picked her up about a mile south of the 495/Rt 1 intersection, at the Papa John's parking lot. BBBJ for $30, which was about $20 more than she was worth. But she was a talker, thank goodness, and from her I learn that the 7-11, just off Rt 1 in the previous block, and the surrounding streets, are the places to pick up girls; that several girls work the area and most live in that neighborhood as well; that there is an on-going battle with LE and that, although the 7-11 has no complaints about them plying their trade there, they have been pressured by LE to issue trespass warnings to the girls; that LE is perfectly willing to arrest them on bogus public nuisance charges, knowing full well the charges will be dropped later, merely in an effort to get them off the street; and that Tuesday and Thursdays are the favorite days for LE to put out female decoys for stings in the area.

We drove across the county line into Alexandria to do the deed, and then I dropped her back. I consider the money well-spent for the S-1 value, even if the provider was less than stellar.

Bysshe

traveler
10-24-02, 17:43
Bysshe, What time of day was your "encounter"? Traveler

Bysshe
10-25-02, 10:59
trav:

Picked her up at about 4:30 PM. I actually drove by her a couple times as she was hanging out in front of the 7-11, and we were making eye contact but were both semi-spooked by a County car in the 7-11 parking lot. On my third pass, I ended up stopped waiting for the light, and she passed by the car window and said, "I'll walk up to the Papa John's."

- Bysshe

SWCruiser
10-25-02, 15:04
Saw a SW last night on a drive through evans area - black in short skirt popped up between cars and waived as I drove by. Circled back for a second look - she was gone and noticed LE car parked up the street across glebe. Didn't see anyone in the car, but decided to keep moving.

Checked out the 7-11 mentioned - in parking lot saw a white woman sitting in a car with a black man. Both kept looking over at me, but if I was getting a signal, I missed it.

Bysshe, any more info as far as identifying features on the SW you picked up? I'm happy to imagine Katie Holmes too!

Bysshe
10-25-02, 19:14
SWCruz:

She was white, stocky build, wearing a dark blue sweatshirt with hood. Dirty blond hair, late 30s/early 40s. I'd say 5'6, maybe 150.

It's true that there was an absence of any discernable signal other than eye contact on my first pass or two... I suspect the LE presence and pressure is the reason the girls are not more open in responding to drive-bys.

November
10-27-02, 21:21
I just don't think that SW thing works in Northern Va. It works in an inner city environment like Baltimore or D.C. ....Hell, even Richmond...where L.E. generally has more important things to do. In Fairfax County, Alexandria or Arlington though, that activity stands out like a sore thumb. The only real viable alternatives in
NOVA appear to be escorts or MP's....and good luck finding a good one. If you do, stick with it until it gets busted. Then find out where it has relocated.

SWCruiser
11-08-02, 15:36
What happened? I've seen nothing available lately. Any ideas on why the little SW action available dried up, or where it moved to? I haven't seen more LE out.

Any thoughts?

Bysshe, seen your Katie Holmes around lately?

November
11-08-02, 20:40
Take the defiberillator off this board......Its dead

Bysshe
11-08-02, 23:46
I've spent the last week down in the Hampton Roads area... got very lucky there, but no new insights on the N. Va drought.

November
11-09-02, 15:00
Yeah Bysshe,

I would suspect there is a bit more action down there since the Atlantic Fleet is parked there. Wait till they all sail off to the Gulf
and the girls should be offering great deals given the decrease in demand.

traveler
11-10-02, 15:01
Some time ago, someone posted on the board about an Independent named Collette in the Springfield area. I can't find that post. Whoever posted that, how about backchanneling that info to me at traveler_va@hotmail.com. Thanks. Traveler.

Bysshe
11-12-02, 10:36
I don't mean to be oblique here.

But for those that were interested in the Costco, Newington-area place, I see they have begun placing ads in City Paper. This suggests that they have relaxed their position of needing no advertising, at least a little.

I'll try to do the same here: if you see an ad in City Paper, with a phone number of 703-45x-xx40, that's the place.

I'm trying to strike a balance between complete dissemination of info and the discretion that's needed to make sure LE doesn't pick this as low-hanging fruit.

Bysshe

fantasyzfreddy
11-14-02, 12:29
Collette
Fun, playful naughty and very personable. A tall, ultra busty, sexy, seductive, stunning, classy raven-haired beauty!

5'8", 135 lbs, 36D-26-36, burgundy / black hair, fair skin and gorgeous green eyes.

Northern Virginia
7:30am - 9:30pm

Collette
703 922-9106

Independent Individual, not associated with any agency!

All of these are very recent photos of Collette. She does not hide her face or body from you - so what you see is what you get!

Collette is not associated with an agency, so when you call her you speak directly to her.

Collette is very highly liked by everyone who sees her.

http://www.eros-dc.com/files/dc-collette2.htm

Stangman
11-17-02, 15:22
Hey guys,
Its good to see the board back up. I Have been gone awhile. I have recently been to HWG in woodbridge, (best AMP I have been to so far in USA) All of the posts have been right on the mark. My "masseuse" was Mink.

I have also been to the AMP in Columbia. (side note, check out the MD board)The lady that provide the massage was Sing. She gave me the best massage I have had at an AMP. They are a licenced spa and she has deffinitly been trained by the best. Was the best 60.00 I have spent on a massage and HR. She never asked for more (but gave her 30.00 tip) and she never rushed. Keep up the great posts and its good to be back (I usually post in MD board, but thats I would try out HWG)

traveler
11-17-02, 18:04
Fantasyzfreddy, your post sounds like an adverstisement. Do you have any personal experience with Collette to share? If you want, you can backchannel me at traveler_va@hotmail.com. Traveler

fantasyzfreddy
11-17-02, 20:43
Sorry, I never send e-mail to folks on here. Just a personal safety rule.

I already posted my "sure thing review" on here about her. Guess it must somehow have been mysteriously deleted. May have been posted on the DC side though.

Basically got an appointment with her about a year or so ago at her incall location (apartment in Springfield). Was $200. At the time her ad was describing some sort of experience called "magic dancing". Apparently she has some sort of fantasy about being Marlyn Monroe cause her apartment is decorated from the 50's. She appeared to be about 35-40 with a European accent. About 6 feet tall. Large enhanced breasts, thin to curvy body. Was led into her bedroom, which held a mattress on the floor. She stripped down from her bikini and panties and asked if I had a condom - which indicated to me that I was going to get something more than magic dancing. Well we did proceed to do the horizontal mambo in a variety of styles. She seemed to enjoy it. When I finished I handed over the cash, which she sort of shoved under a book. I got the impression that I could have actually walked out without paying anything. Oh well. Shook hands and left on my merry way. Since then I have seen many reviews of her on The Erotic Review and Big Doggie which indicated that she is still providing the same level of service to this day. Thought about returning many a time as she seems to be a sure thing in terms of FS in a decent environment, but I like to get around and try different ladies so I have yet to sample Collete's pleasures again.

TonydaSnake
11-18-02, 14:41
The N VA and DC wsg boards have become truly depressing. All I have found are posts on massage joints and escorts at minimal $100 a HJ and mostly higher than that price wise. I feel sorry for those who resort to escorts due to the extremely high rip off rates. Massage joints are safe and comfortable, but worth $175 FS? Not! And it is pathetic to even pst that you paid $100 for HJ. Don't you have your own hand?

The reason I'm pissin vinegar is that it takes me 3-4 days work to afford the FS rates I see here and that just isn't value to me. Is everyone here loaded with money? I found SW's in old town alex. for a two year period and never once paid more than $60. One beautifl tall girl I saw one day in a summer dress waved me down and I told her I didn't have any money, only $20. She said no problem, and I had one of those one in a lifetime experiences. Saw her for over a year and never more than $20 to her. She did anything.

My conclusion is that you're all to afraid to observe what is going on around you or take any chances(and some fears are justified for sure). Everyone is opting for the easy, safe and expensive road to satisfaction. But if all anybody is going to talk about is massage joints than this forum ain't necessary. Just look in the back of wash post sports section. Proceed to any joint listed, pay your $60, and when girl starts to rub you, at some point put her hand where you want it and start to talk about what you want. Be prepard to shell out another $40-100 before you are done.

TonydaSnake
11-18-02, 16:50
I stand corrected...trashman did two or three awesome and recent posts on SW's in the DC scene. Check them out, they are well worth reading for anyone in anyplace.

Still, too much time is wasted talking about specific areas in NOVA. Meanwhile, maybe 10 blocks away there is action while everyone tries to find the bloated blond someone posted about on Jones street(just a fictional example). Improvise and expore and good things can happen.

And way too much is said about AMPs. I mean they are no brainers. If someone wants to post a particularly good experience (greek, enthusiastic FS) that is news but otherwise the AMPs are very generic and who cares about that?

fantasyzfreddy
11-19-02, 04:02
...

*pulling knife out of his back*

Was planning on retiring anyways, never to return to this board and never to go out on the hunt ever again...

Ce la vie

monkeysarefunny
11-20-02, 21:14
Nothing worse than someone who comes late to the party, looks around, and starts bitching about the food and drink after showing up with a pack of ho-ho's and a bottle of ripple. tonydasnake the market is what the market is just like in business. There is this thing called supply and demand. If the supply is low and the demand is high than so are the prices. I suggest you take a few extra hours of OT on the frydaddy and suck it up like the rest of us have learned to do. If Thailand is your specialty then stick to what you know, but dont come in once every full moon to pop off at the mouth. November comes in here every once in a while and rattles our cages when need be, but everyone respects him because he totes the rock like everyone else when he has a chance. Do the work, share the info or shut the F up!!

TonydaSnake
11-21-02, 02:24
monkeysarefunny,

You try to mix anger and logic together and all that comes out is anger. Good, I deserved it, but you sure didn't impress me with your talk about supply and demand while foaming at the mouth.

My history with the sw scene in NOVA is 12 years and I would give specific information if ladies didn't shift locations every few months. The two streets west of route 1 in old town were good but it has been over a year. Often action is still nearby, and that is what I was saying about the Evan's posts earlier.

I can find a sw in NOVA tomorrow with ease. They are almost everywhere, but spread out. But the danger is as always relatively high, and that is the real reason the amps are growing exponentially, but the prices aren't coming down. Supply and demand...ha! ha! ha! ha! So simple it is for someone who took economics 101 in college.

November
11-21-02, 23:04
Tonight, I went into a place called "Best Therapeutic Massage" on
Sullyfield Circle in Chantilly , Va. My intent was to get a massage &
that would be it. I paid the usual $60 for the hour with a handy.
I got a bit worked up and asked this rather emotionally detached Korean girl for something extra. I told her that I wanted her to suck my cock (in more delicate terms). She asked for $80. I offered $60 and got a BBBJ. It was not torridly enthusiastic but I
was rather surprised that she did it uncovered. I think that it was
out of the norm for her but the extra cash was wanted and perhaps she didn't have condoms handy. My gain here.

Can anyone here tell me of a place that they have been here in NOVA that has Thai girls working there? I find that the Thai girls
with their Buddhist upbringing tend to be more sexually ambitious.

monkeysarefunny
11-21-02, 23:44
Tony I couldnt give a crap whether I impress you or not. I was simply pissed off because you came in this room with guns blazing at everyone "My conclusion is that you're all to afraid to observe what is going on around you" without ever having added a thing to the room while driving off people like fantasyzfreddy who has more than done his share. Like Tom Cruise weakened a nation in "A Few Good Men" you have effectively weakened the WSG you donkey. BTW if you had taken economics 101 I seriously doubt it would take you "3-4 days work to afford the FS rates".

TonydaSnake
11-22-02, 17:09
November,

I went to an amp recently behind 7 corners on lee hwy and got hj from thai girl (forget name of place, but she is gone now). She said she would love to be at amp with thai co-workers but it just isn't in the cards right now...to controlled by Koreans at this time.

monkeysarefunny, your anger and ignorance do much more to diminish this forum than my, admittedly, strong words but words without anger, even some humor, and not directed at any named individual. But enough time wasted responding to you.

I never intend to hurt feelings, and apology to fantasyzfreddy but I wasn't in any way specifically talking about your post. You had a positive experience which is great. But anyone who wants to go through the archives, as I have, will know that NOVA escorts have consistently disappointed and brought about some dangerous situations. This is the history in print for anyone to read.

My speaking about money spent related to sex is on topic and legitimate. What I do for a job or why is off topic, thus my calling monkey... ignorant. Opinions are OK on a sex forum as is sex related debate. That is, in essence what a forum is all about.

Monkeysarefunny, you are not the moderator of this forum so maybe you'd like to be an adult and ask the real moderator if something I said here is innappropriate. If not, than your off topic insults are trully what is wrong here...

November
11-22-02, 17:59
Thanks Tony.

I have no animousity to Korean girls. I honestly think though that
if you can get a good Thai run place you are ahead of the game. I
am frankly fed up that a city of this size is so piss poor. I have my
airline tickets booked for January to Bangkok. I am going to pound
a lot of Thai pussy while there. I think that they will show a bit more gratitude. The Asian girls here in the States seem disinterested, almost arrogant and put off. They seem to have adopted the demeanor of American women. I am a bit miffed because I love Asian women .

fantasyzfreddy
11-22-02, 23:33
Not one of us hasn't complained on here about the high price gauging, ripoffs, personal danger threatened by LE & drug overdosed pimps, disease & public exposure of the hobby. We all have been there done it. Not much more to be said about the lack of available options in this area for guys who frequent SW, AMPs, or escorts. None of us are excusing our behaviors as being rational and normal activities for adults to engage in. We realize that the money we spend would much better be turned toward paying our bills, upgrading our computer systems, donating to charity etc.

But as we have all said, this is a hobby. Not a lifestyle. We enjoy the thrill of the hunt. This is our secret identities, our chance to step outside our ordinary lives for but a brief hour or two and pretend to be sexual gods.

We all agree there are many aspects of the industry we would like to have changed. It isn't going to change to our liking, if anything the industry is going to get more violent, expensive, & we will see more and more of the influence of organized crime controlling the providers.

It isn't my job to regulate this industry, impose laws upon humanity or dictate how and what people can do with their bodies. I am just a hobbist.

TonydaSnake
11-23-02, 02:33
November,

I gave you the wrong street for that AMP since it is actually 6051 Arlington blvd., but that might be water under the bridge with the Thai girl gone. Great news about your upcoming trip, it will be glorious indeed to be in Bangkok during the dead of winter here!

fantasyzfreddy,

I have been out of the local SW scene for about siw months so I'm going to shut up and go out there and find some ho's to write about. It's a dirty job (er, hobby), but someone's got to do it!

traveler
11-23-02, 17:06
I just had a good experience with a SW on Route 1 near Papa Johns. Her name was Leslie. Probably mid-30s. About a 4-5 on looks. Gave a hell of a BBBJTC. I wasn't even looking for anything. This occurred around 2:15 this afternoon. She was standing near a bus stop just south of Papa Johns. I just happened to make eye contact with her and when I did, she let me know without a doubt that she was available. I motioned for her to go up the street to the Papa Johns parking lot. She takes you to Alexandria to get out of Fairfax County. I won't give the location for obvious reasons . She was clean. She was good at doing the deed. Damn near brought tears to my eyes! Save me some bucks today. $30 for the deed. I was thinking about going to an AMP but don't think I will....today. She gave me a lot of information. First, not too many SWs in that area. She only comes out when she needs the bucks. She said there was another girl named Lisa. But lisa is in the slammer for breaking parole for possession of Crack. We talked about LE. She said that if you ever see any "Victoria's Secret" type girls, forget it. They are LE. And if you see any scantly clad ladies, forget it. They are LE. All in all, a good experience as far as SW experiences go. Traveler.

BootyLover
12-03-02, 20:59
Any info (low price) for Herndon, I'll be there beginning of the year with a room available for the deed

calvin32
12-06-02, 19:02
Does any one here know the name and the phone of an amp in Fairfax, VA conducting business in residential area? I've seen lots of cars come and go but I'm not sure if it's a private business or not.

TrashMan
12-08-02, 18:14
Calvin,

I have to tell you that based on the language you use and the questions you pose coupled with the fact that you're a new poster from what I can see gives me the distinct impression of the smell of bacon so don't be surprised if no one provides you with an answer.

shavedmynuts
12-09-02, 10:08
Anything going on in the Herndon area? Going there tonight for a training class, would be nice to hook up.

calvin32
12-10-02, 18:23
Trashman,
I don't know what kind of langauage I need to use to ask for a place in Fairfax where I can f**k some cute asian without being ripped-off. I live near Fairfax and heard ok info on Golden. Need more than just hand release and don't want to go to D.C. to get it.

TonydaSnake
12-12-02, 10:58
Calvin32,

There is simply no good answer to what you ask. The AMPS are in total control which make them borderline scams. You are paying the money but you can't talk to them. People are foolish enough to think this is for security, but the police have way more power than that (they are more than willing to lie) and could bust them down if they wanted. Just remember what happened in MD a few years back.

Everyone going to the AMPS thinks they're so damn clever, but really are all a bunch of fools paying $160 and hoping they get some. Bottom line, Calvin22 in the AMPS...

MONEY TALKS!

Figrindan
12-12-02, 11:22
Calvin,
HWC in Lake Ridge is THE place. Young, cute, FS guaranteed (unless you're a total lunatic)... but it WILL cost you the "standard" $160.

TonydaSnake
12-12-02, 14:41
Slowly but surely I am trying all the amps in NOVA. Just went to one at columbia pike and little river turnpike. mamasan asks for money and I tell her I want to see girls or a girl. Nope! She gives me standard bs "all good girls." I wait twenty minutes and ugly one comes in. She is very aggressive and highly skilled, and it totally felt like she was licking by ass but I know she wasn't. Anyways, she lets me feel her up a bit but when I offer extra for extra, she says "next time." Get HJ/pseudo BJ-Typical scam in these Korean amps. Sounds like at others, like Latin palace the girls have no problems bending over and grabbing their ankles. Anyway, I gave her $15 tip which was stupid since she wouldn't do what I wanted and the session was 30 minutes when I paid for an hour.

In contrast two weeks ago I paid $60 for a SW in DC on 7th st. that let me enter all 3 orifices, but in a car.

I understand the attraction to the amps, and the comfort and $160 for FS is not too much if you get to have some say in what you can do. But that usually ain't the case. Why can't the amps use they SW system where you feel each other up before talking business? Even if you conveyed to an amp girl what you want to do without incriminating her or yourself she will most likely say "no do that." Thus I call them scams, though a fun and safe one...

I will never cough up $160 to the mamasan at the door and give up all control over the situation.

traveler
12-12-02, 18:28
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tonydasnake
[i]Calvin32,
Everyone going to the AMPS thinks they're so damn clever, but really are all a bunch of fools paying $160 and hoping they get some. Bottom line, Calvin22 in the AMPS...

Tonydasnake, I go to the AMPs frequently, but I never pay $160.00 in "hoping to get some". I pay $60 at the door, then, after the table shower, I lay out $100 so the girl can see it. If she gives me FS, it's hers. If she doesn't, it isn't. Simple as that. I've never had a problem at the AMPs with a girl trying to take the money without the service. Laying out the $100 lets them know you're probably OK. But if for some reason, it doesn't feel right, then wait until an offer is made. I normally don't use that approach at an AMP. There are some FS AMPs in NOVA and some are not. But sometimes a guy isn't looking for FS and would like a good HJ. Traveler.

TonydaSnake
12-12-02, 18:48
traveler,

I was hoping to stir up some discussion on the amps since they are obviously a dominant force in NOVA landscape now, and I am looking for answers about how to get maximum value and fun.

I absolutely think the amps are honest, but still think it is a mistake to give all $160 TO THE mamasan. That will not be easy money to get back if things don't go your way! Your method I have used as well, the two times I have gotten FS at amps. Both my sessions were mechanical but, subsequently, when I try to get a feeling on what more the girl will do (while still on the $60 meter) I have run into a brick wall.

For example, one girl lets me stick a finger up her butt and won't do FS. I found this by seeing what I could get away with. But I'd rather not play games and reach an understanding before paying, or at least while still at massage rate. Any suggestions?

Randy Farang
12-12-02, 22:47
For what it may be worth, 160 is NOT an absolute. At some places you can ask for a "short time" and get a half-hour. This generally means no shower, but it leaves time for everything else. My experience is that, where available, it generally cuts the house fee to 40. The question I have to ask myself is "Is it worth saving 20 to miss out on the pleasure of the shower and the anticipation that generally builds in that period?"

Anyone who thinks that there is ANYTHING wrong with conditions in the metro area ought to be forced to spend a month where I am at the moment in SW Florida. There is NO action at all within a two hour drive. Randy

TrashMan
12-13-02, 00:05
Calvin, glad to see you got your info. Good luck. Interesting comments here. Basically, I view AMP's as an easy alternative that also provides a really relaxing experience. Period. Don't make it so complicated.

Face the facts guys, there are simply very few AMP's that offer FS in NOVA whereas in DC it's a given. To shell out 160 in "hopes" is dumber than shit. Get a grip. If you want to get laid, then stop fucking around like some kind of wimp and just go get it. If that means seeking advice of a pro like Traveler, then for chrisakes take his advice, he knows his stuff! Otherwise go to DC or Baltimore and get laid. Or stop sniveling. You're the wimp who's paying 160 whe you can beat off just as well. These places are laughing at you, trust me.

kraft22
12-13-02, 01:07
With any of the AMP's never pay anything up front until you see the girl. Once you have paid and some ugly old gooke walks in it's your loss.
I will also highly recommend HWC. Treat the girls nice and with respect and you can get FS. Mostly all of the girls are attractive there.
Springfield SPA is also a possibility for FS (just depends on who you see).
Happy hunting and Merry Christmas.

traveler
12-13-02, 21:07
Like I said before, I have never been "taken" at an AMP. NOVA AMPS or any other AMPs for that matter. Never have I given anything except the house money to the Mamasan. There have been times when I have laid the money on a table near the massage table and have been refused FS. When finished with whatever they would give me, I picked up my $100 (Usually five Jacksons) and tipped according to what I got. On some occasions, I have absolutely refused the HJ by telling the girl that I'm not a little boy, therefore I don't want a little's boys treatment. Only FS for me. And, on some of those occasions, the $100 laying on the table was just too much of a temptation for the girl and she gave me what I wanted. Especially when she realized that with my FS or no service attitude, she would probably not get a tip of any kind. Yet, on other occasions, I have accepted the HJ and was happy with it. Also tipped accordingly. To me, the anticipation is one of the best parts. That is why I occasionally try a totally new place. And I wouldn't miss the Table Shower for anything. All part of the "Anticipation". Speaking of new places, Kraft22, where is the "Springfield SPA" you mentioned.

TonydaSnake
12-14-02, 01:23
Tried eagle massage today on king street in the bailey's x-roads area. I didn't have a good feeling from walking in the door, but decided to see the girl before making final decision. Girl seemed fine, but the atmosphere seemed tense (were they suspicious of me?) so I just went for 30 minutes thinking if the girl lightened up I'd add time and tip. But it was not to be so I bailed after 30 with massage only. They ask $75 and $55 for 60 or 30 minutes. Definately my worst amp experience so far.

traveler
12-14-02, 17:14
Originally posted by tonydasnake
Tried eagle massage today on king street in the bailey's x-roads area. I didn't have a good feeling from walking in the door, but decided to see the girl before making final decision. Girl seemed fine, but the atmosphere seemed tense (were they suspicious of me?) so I just went for 30 minutes thinking if the girl lightened up I'd add time and tip. But it was not to be so I bailed after 30 with massage only. They ask $75 and $55 for 60 or 30 minutes. Definately my worst amp experience so far.

Where is that AMP located? In the Bailey's Crossroads area, that is Leesburg Pike (RT 7). It becomes King's street further East. Seems to be Expensive ($75 for an hour). Traveler

TonydaSnake
12-15-02, 01:27
traveler,

I don't have address but it is located in a small office plaza just past the corner of George Mason drive and Route 7 (sorry, your right-technically NOT King street at that point) if you're heading west. Very visible with big lit sign and facing the street.

Yes, $75 is expensive but maybe a sign of things to come? The place is typical amp with bell to ring, but I don't think it is asian owned so maybe that explains the price difference...

traveler
12-17-02, 20:35
Fellow Hobbyists, there is some new ground to be broken. Have you all noticed all the new AMPS in the Post? In woodbridge there are two new ones, "Kinja", 13408 Occoquan Road, telephone 703-497-1900 and Sakura Therapy, 13628 Jefferson Davis Hwy, 703-491-3322/5522. Another one, just a few miles further south is the Soo-Goung Spa, 17503 Jefferson Davis Hwy, Dumfries, Va 703-445-0200. Springfield also has a new one called Mykonos Salon, 5532-G Hempstead Way, Springfield Va, 703-256-7500. We need some REVIEWS! Traveler.

kraft22
12-19-02, 01:16
Traveler,

This is the address for the Springfield SPA
6803-D Backlick Road, 2nd Floor
(703) 644-0010. There is a neon sign in the window.
I have only been there once. Be warned if you go on a cold night you will freeze your butt off.
HWC in Lakeridge is still my favorite, but with all these new AMP's popping up all over the area maybe the prices will go down just a little. Supply and demand. I personally think 160 is a bit high for FS if the girl is just average looking and doesn't really get into it. You can get fine women and much better service in DC so why should N VA charge a premium ??
Anyway ... just feeling like I am not getting my $$ worth from some of these places and I'm going to start and adjust my tips accordingly.

Vagringo
12-19-02, 03:10
hey went to one of the new ones you posted travelor and it was your avg amp same prices the girl kor of course did not have any massage skills to break the ice fs was my only option lol someone said the name cindy there was a cindy at 520 in dc and she fit the profile yes she does a very good licking job if you have the chance check her out its worth it tried to find .l palace parking was ok in towne home area please ask my advice on strip clubs and amps sw are out of my menu (vagringo also post on peru site

TonydaSnake
12-19-02, 12:20
suppose you want to have more than your "garden variety" sex at an AMP. Lets say you want to "69" a girl; has anybody found a way to communicate this to these people before your $160. is gone? I have met with nothing but frustration. My conclusion is enough folks are frequenting these places and satisfied with the old "in out" to make $160. the standard for that and nothing else.

Stop smoking crack if you think prices are coming down!

I have tried more than half dozen NOVA amps and have yet to have experience that rates "good" or better. Rather than hitting these places like a bunch of bunny rabbits I think we should use our collective knowledge to get more bang for our bucks...

anyone getting more than basic "in out?"

How?

TrashMan
12-19-02, 15:25
Tony, Tony, Tony...I thought you knew better than to expect a lot from NOVA amp's! You've been around and seem like a smart guy.

I don't frequent amp's or very few escorts for that matter in NOVA for the exact reasons you mention, that being non service or at best mediocre service. I don't know what it is about NOVA providers, but they don't seem to exhibit the same enthusiasm or possess the same quality uninhibited girls that you find consistently in DC amp's and obviously in Baltimore's Block.
Once again, I will reiterate...DC amp's ALL provide full service and I get 69 from most of them if I want it most times without asking. Mind you, very few provide BBBJ, almost 100% are CBJ only but they enjoy DATY and 69 or else pretend to enjoy it well enough to suit me. Never discuss the exact acts before the fact, that makes them nervous and is the sign for them that you're LE. Simply do it.
Now I could understand anyone's reluctance to cross the DC line for pooty if they lived far away such as Richmond or way the hell and gone, but I would have to believe if you're frequenting NOVA establishments in Springfield or Reston even that you would rather drive all of 20 minutes and get a sure thing wouldn't you?
I mean, come on, don't be lazy when it comes to getting laid!
I can absolutely assure you that these places in DC are safe and for the most part are located in reasonable areas. The few that are not in a choice neighboorhood I don't frequent at night and simply patronize the others. There is one on MacArthur Blvd near Canal Road that is very nice for night time visits and another on Connecticut Ave in a very safe area. Do yourselves a favor.

TonydaSnake
12-19-02, 16:17
Thanks TrashMan for your usual insightful thoughts. My best amp experience was at no other than the famous ginza.

Still, I like a challenge and believe the NoVa amps have more potential, some hidden nuggets if you will, we just haven't found a way to mine them.

Why not try some different approaches?, if their response is cold than we should just bail; next time I plan on bringing a porn photo of a specific act and just showing it to the girl (no words spoken). Someone must have some creative ideas?

Otherwise we are reduced to being just lemmings; actually I guess our sex drive has always made us that! He!He!He!

TonydaSnake
12-20-02, 04:21
Today I drove the route 1 strip from old town north toward crystal city and hit every street I've had success on (with SWs) over the past ten years. Drove almost three hours and was completely blanked! The time was early evening (6-9pm) which is not the best window of opportunity.

Just needed to clear my head of all the amp hubbub, and go back to my roots. That is the nature of the SW scene, sometimes going home with a round in the chamber! Also, one night or time there maybe nothing and a smorgasboard the next.

OK, sorry, this post is a downer...

kraft22
12-22-02, 20:03
OK, I don't mean to write a book, but this is on a new AMP that just opened up in Dumfries, VA

Soo-Goung SPA. Nice place, new, clean, staff is young.

I wrote this review on another BBS.

This is a new AMP. Just opened late November. I called ahead just to get an idea of what they offered (they don't block calls). Was told to make an appointment. Saturday night ..all four girls were busy. It is located in a shopping center so when you right the door bell you are standing on the sidewalk until they open the door. Younger mamasan greeted me at door and showed me to room. All girls were busy so she said she could give massage. She was wearing short ..shorts with a bikini top and wasn't that bad so I figured I'll give it a try.
This place is brand new and it shows. Nice big clean rooms, decorated like a formal Chinese restuarant with Candles and soft music playing. The shower area and sauna are just as nice. A robe is laid out for you on the massage table to wear to the shower.
TS was nice very professionally done with only minimal hand contact to the right areas from Donna (she had a name tag on). Even asked to was my face after the shower. The took me to sauna for 5 minutes and even went to get me a cup of water.
Back to the room and she started with a very good back massage. Working from my neck all the way down. Very good. She has been around and is experienced. On the flip side she starts to touch Mr Happy and my hands are roaming all over her. I asked to undress her and she agreed. Nice body for her age. She seems interested in oiling me up so I slowed her down and insisted she lye back down on the table. I am still not sure how far this will go at this point. I was fingering her and started down for some DATY and she didn't want that. Actually, from seeing her cat up close I'm glad she stopped me. It was wide open. This pussy looks to have high mileage on it and it was pretty dry as well.
Oh well. She got on the side of the table and put one leg up on the table so I could finger her while she jerked me off. Donna was starting to look at the time so I just figured I would let go.
She cleaned me up with a hot towel and even got a towel to wash my fingers off with rubbing Alcohol (first time for this).
Helped me get dressed and then waited for her tip. I asked if the other girls were younger and motioned with my finger into the hand for FS and she smiled. Other girls are in their 20's. She said also that she normally doesn't do massage, but they were busy so maybe that explains why nothing extra was offered.
I gave her a 20 for the nice service. I am no longer going just lay out the standard tips unless I get what I came for and the service is good. (supply and demand... there are just to many AMP's to choose from)
I will go back here again and make sure I try a younger unit next time.

kraft22
12-22-02, 20:16
Traveler,

This is in response to your post from several days ago.

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Fellow Hobbyists, there is some new ground to be broken. Have you all noticed all the new AMPS in the Post? In woodbridge there are two new ones, "Kinja", 13408 Occoquan Road, telephone 703-497-1900 and Sakura Therapy, 13628 Jefferson Davis Hwy, 703-491-3322/5522. Another one, just a few miles further south is the Soo-Goung Spa, 17503 Jefferson Davis Hwy, Dumfries, Va 703-445-0200. Springfield also has a new one called Mykonos Salon, 5532-G Hempstead Way, Springfield Va, 703-256-7500. We need some REVIEWS! Traveler.
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I did indeed visit several of these new AMP's.
The Sakura Therapy is located right above Octopus Gardens in a shopping center in Woodbridge. Meet at the door by older Mamasam 40ish. She takes me to room. I asked to see girls, but she said only two were there and both busy. I politely declined her offer of massage, but this unit was old, ugly, and a bit heavy. I'll pass. I asked the age of the other girls and she said 30's not young ones in their 20's (so she says).
The place seemed clean inside and the rooms were private and roomy.

The Kinja off of Occoquan road. It is in a stand alone small building with limited parking. There are automatic lights (on a sensor) that turn on when you get close to the door. FIrst door takes you into a small standing area with a glass window to the right (like you going to order ice cream or something like that) I rang the bell and Mamasam opened up the second door and showed me to a room. I asked to see girls and she said only one other working. She ws busy and if I wanted to wait ten minutes she would be free.
I didn't want to wait and also politely declined a massage from the mamasan. She was about early 40's. Average looking, bigger than normal Korean girl.
Again, same as above, place seemed clean, nice private rooms.

I ended up heading down the road to Soo-Goung SPA in Dumfries where I stayed.

Sorry, no really good info on the services with this post, but it gives all who read a little more on the new places in town.

Knuckhead
12-23-02, 01:01
Fellows: There are two rather new AMP's in the Chantilly area. The strange thing is that they are literally within sight of one another.

Best therapeutic massage, in 14240-D sullyfield circle. Typical AMP, but very very clean. Same $60 deal, and only HJ offered. Very little English spoken, making everything difficult. If anyone has received any higher level of service there please speak up now!

The second one is K-accupressure, which is on the next building towards east from the first one. Sorry I do not remember the address, but you can not miss it. There are two doors, and you enter the one that faces Sullyfield cirlcle. This one was a little different: Mamasan from phillipines, and the girl from China. Best massage I have had to date, BUT, at the end she said that I had to take care of the business myself. Very strange! I laughed at her and said Thanks but NO THANKS!, so she finally finished with a mediocre HJ. Again, if anyone has gotten more service please let me know. Again, very little English spoken (and my Chinese is not too hot!) so maybe things are a little different once you go a few times.

Bön
12-23-02, 15:20
Thanks for the warnings, Sxplorer.

Now, I'm wondering if anyone has been to Bodywork Treatment in Manassas.

Also, anyone know of any AMPs where any taller-than-average girls work? I'd heard about MeMe at Waldorf, but that place is probably closed down by now (also a little far from NoVA).

Thanks,
Bone

Vagringo
12-23-02, 17:49
about mannasas went to the one your askin no action .The best one in pw is the new one in dumfries f/s, and the one on occoquan road is f/s girls avg nothing great same rates.

Globetrotter
12-26-02, 18:20
After many,many trips, I finally got lucky on the Rte. 1 stretch south of the beltway. Picked up a strawberry blonde, late 30's to early 40's about a 5 in looks - a bit hardened looking but still acceptable for what I had in mind. Was driving down Rte. 1 heading South and turned right on to Fairhaven which is a bout a block and a half before you get to Papa John's. When you turn on Fairhaven, there is a 7-11 immediately on the left. This is apparently ground zero for any kind of SW action in this area of VA. As I drove by the 7-11, I spotted this girl getting into a red compact car with another girl. She had the look of a working girl (when you've been doing this as long as I and a few other members of this board have, you can just tell one when you see one) and so I when around the block and drove by the car which was still there. As I did, she saw me and waved. She then got out of the car and got into what turned out to be her own car and started driving across Rte. 1 towards the Ford dealership. I followed and when we got a little distance past Rte. 1, she parked, I parked, she got out of her car and jumped into mine. Off we went into some nearby woods for a very, very good BBBJ which she brought to an end by swallowing it all.

Thinking of the future, I of course, pumped her for as much information as possible about the SW scene in the area. She told me that there weren't too many girls out these days but there are a number of regulars in the area, some of whom use their own houses nearby to provide their services. She gave me a couple of names but nothing that would be very helpful. The other girl in the red car she had been with earlier was one of those with her own place around there but in my opinion was zero on looks so I wouldn't bother. She confirmed that the 7-11 was the best place to hang out near for some action but there is supposedly a McDonald's nearby where some of the other girls go from time to time. As far as she was concerned, I couldn't even set up anything for the future as she couldn't give out her phone #. She is from further South in VA and comes up to Alexandria to make some money sometimes during the week but doesn't plan ahead enough to be able to make a definite date.

This was actually the second time in a month that I spotted what I later confirmed to be a bona fide SW. The last one waved at me as she walked by the 7-11 also then went around the corner onto Rte. 1 and stood in the bus stop area looking for potential work. I had checked her out a few times but decided she wasn't my cup of tea so I passed on the opportunity.

Yes, gentlemen, there is action to be found in this part of No. VA but it requires a lot of patience and luck on the hobbyist's part. I think one of these days I will go to the 7-11 and just park there for a couple of hours to see what goes by. I have also made countless trip to the Evans St. area (near Rte 1 and Glebe) north of Old Town Alexandria and have yet to see anything there.

Phantom44
12-27-02, 02:40
What's the best time to find SW action off of route 1?

SWCruiser
12-27-02, 03:46
Thanks Globe. Been cruising that stretch myself lately, but without your luck. About what time of day was she there?

Globetrotter
12-27-02, 10:36
Both times when I saw SW, including yesterday were between 1:00 and 2:00 PM

jayemmess2003
12-30-02, 14:56
Globetrotter is right on the money...
Stopped in the conv. store for a coke & powerbar, and was loafing around & saw two likely candidates (one a 5, the other a weak 7)...
Walked by them and said "hi" (creative, no??). The "better one", a brunette, responded, so we talked for a while. She asked if I was in the mood for a "party". I was, and we took off. Provided a great BBBJ. Nice rack, decent face, and decent attitude! Said that the area was the only place she knew of locally for SWs.
Worth the trip!
J

TonydaSnake
01-01-03, 01:46
I had to goto Burke today on business so checked the sports page for amps in the area; ended up going to "Port Royal" at 5414-D Port Royal road (near 495 & Braddock). It was in industrial park at end of road, NOT a sweet location for the sake of their business. I was ready to bolt the first ugly girl I saw, but very sexy and cute girl "mindy" answers so I'm in!

I pay my $60 and Mindy gives me excellent bath, and covers my unit with little washcloth which I found funny. When she asks if she can wash that I say "my third leg? sure!" We proceed to room and she gives me massage, and then repeats with oil. "Do you want me to massage anywhere else?" she says and I just put her hand on the snake. She has those tight little black sport shorts on and I ask if she can take them off. She pulls them to her knees, with no underwear on. She has an athletic body with beautiful muscular legs and perfect firm ass. She oils the snake and is doing her HJ and I, meanwhile, get some oil from her and play with her ass and pussy. I don't know if she'd let me insert finger since I didn't try. She has small but shapely breasts but they were too sensitive and when I touched them she found it ticklish and didn't like it. I had already decided I didn't want FS and had put out $40 tip for her to see. After all was done I asked her about FS and she said we don't do it here, but I didn't slap down $100 to find out either so who knows. She would be a dream to bang IMHO! One thing a bit odd was she started to kiss me near the end of session, and with tongue! My conclusion was she wanted to give a bit of GFE so I'd be a repeat. Sweet girl, sexy, friendy and maybe late 20's agewise.

Vagringo
01-03-03, 02:32
went to the pw ---amp this week kinja is all fsand soogong is still hj only but the massages are the bomb ask for med massage open to midnight not fs yet but will keep ya posted

Va Gent
01-03-03, 13:46
I have been in the area for a bit now and have seen several ladies from the eros ads. Laura of nova is f/s but massage skills could use some work. Woodbridge location. The other I like is Paige, she is in Arlington about 30-35 yrs old and knows her job. F/S and massage. Seems to like it. Not a Barbie Doll but prettier than her pics. The one I really like is Taylor and she is impossible to get hold of she also is costly compaired to Paige & Laura. Paige is close to the Pentagon. If any of you know any others, let me know.

Amp_Man
01-04-03, 05:02
Has anyone try Kiki yet? I would be interested in review on her. From the pics on the website, this girl has got incredible legs. She expensive, but am wondering if she's worth the $$

amp_man

traveler
01-04-03, 12:32
Originally posted by vagringo
went to the pw ---amp this week kinja is all fsand soogong is still hj only but the massages are the bomb ask for med massage open to midnight not fs yet but will keep ya posted

Vagringo, Tell me about the Kinja. You said it was FS. If you like, backchannel me at traveler_va@hotmail.com. Traveler.

Mikey
01-06-03, 16:30
Vagringo, I would also be interested in info on Kinja. If you want to backchannel me I'm at mikey1227@hotmail.com. Thanks
Mikey


Originally posted by traveler
Vagringo, Tell me about the Kinja. You said it was FS. If you like, backchannel me at traveler_va@hotmail.com. Traveler.

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jayemmess2003
01-06-03, 17:18
Twice in two weeks! Snagged another BBBJ @ the previous location (see prev post) . Not as good looking as before, but the quality was quite good. Must be on a hot streak.... Hope the snow melts!

kraft22
01-07-03, 01:16
All,

Here is a great site that has some good reviews on the ladies who work in the various local AMP's and as Escorts.
You have to register to see the details, but it is worth it.
The more information we share the better our experiences can be.

http://www.sex-reviews.net/
It's called the Gentlemen's Review.

Enjoy

Sir Cumalot
01-07-03, 01:30
Went to Youngs Spa in Tysons Corner earlier today and met with Michelle. It was a great time. They are in the 2nd floor of an otherwise non descript office building, behind the Marriott (off of Old Courthouse Rd).

Typical AMP, 3-4 girls, none too overly hot in the looks department, but no dogs that i saw anyway) either . . . Michelle was probably 35-40.

Took me to my room, took my $60 (for an hour) and I got undressed, she then led me by my dick (while I held a towel) across the floor to the table shower and proceeded to wash me down for 5 minutes with some attention paid to the crack of my ass and my balls.

We finished there, she put me in the sauna, and then led me back to the room. I got up on the table and she gave me a kille back rub ... when I went to slip my hands in her pants, she said not yet . . .
At that point, I was a bit bummed, and thought, if not know, when.

she finished up my back, while giving a tub to my nutsack, and rolled me over. Right away, she started in with the lotion on the penis hand job. Not really wanting to get wanked off (hey, I can do that myself), I slid my hands up her shirt and asked to remove it. She readily did so, and then dropped the bra down, exposing some beautiful tits (nice perky hard nipples, fairly firm especially considering her age) and she gave me some lotion to play with them, and let me suck on them ... while continuing to rub mr johnson.

Again I got tired of the tits, and slid my hands down her pants. she got the clue, and dropped them to her knees (nice black tights) and then yanked aside her black lace underwear, and placed my hand on her lightly bushed pussy. Nice pussy cat nice pussy cat. I pet that for a bit, shoved a couple of fingers inside, and invited her up on the table. She proceeded to sit on my face and while I ate her out, the hand job switched to the BBBJ. Very nice and it lasted about 10 minutes with a good bit of deep throating and some ball tuggging. I didnt ask to fuck, but I did try to turn her around (usually a clue) she resisted and told me to cum back another time for a better massage. She then resumed the attack on Mr. Willickers and turned on the vacum pressure. Another couple of minutes and I blew my load all over her face. She had to go get an extra towel to clean herself up. it was great.

Anyway, I tipped her $40 and got to chow box, a hnummer that could suck the chrome off a ford, and a top notch massage - total price for the Hour $100. Not too bad in my book.

I intended to get my FS later this weeek

Va Gent
01-07-03, 19:36
Had another bad experience today. I should have checked reviews but big head was calling. I went to see this lady called KD in Alexandria. What a big mistake. She screens when you drive up and if she does not like what she sees she will not answer door of phone. She must have liked what she saw and let me in. This girl was so stoned or drunk she could barely stand up. I left and she had the nerve to ask for a cancel fee. I just blew her off and kept on walking while listening to a barage of insults. I called my stand by, Paige and she was able to slide me in. I know a sure bet when I find it. Thankyou Paige for being there today.

TrashMan
01-08-03, 01:11
Kraft is correct in regards to Gentlemens Review site. I use it regularly and have found the info to be accurate and on target. I have also seen more than a few girls based on reviews read there and have found them to be a great source of girls to fuck.

You will note that I frequently provide reviews there as well which if you know me you know that they're accurate.

The rest of the site is crap I think and the message board bites but who cares?

TrashMan
01-09-03, 00:16
Jaymess and Globetrotter,

Having read your posts recently piqued my interest and curiosity sufficiently to try your hunting grounds myself.
At first I didn't know which 7-11 you were referring to so I cruised Rte 1 and looked at several of them in the area as well as the McDonalds mentioned but saw nothing. I went back and reread the posts and figured out exactly which location you mentioned and went back to check it out on 2 other occaisons now without any success. I have tried driving by and cruising Rte 1 and then drive by again. I have tried parking and going in and hanging around a little bit. I have tried parking both in the lot as well as on the street and just sitting. I have tried at noon, 1pm, 2pm, and 3pm time slots all to no avail.
Am I just unlucky because I'm a dumbass or because there are very few and I have simply not lucked out timing wise yet, or am I at the wrong place? Help me ut with any good advise you may have for me. I assumed that the girls might rove from place to place to avoid attracting too much attention so that's wh I checked out the other snack joints.
One time I did pick up a cute blond who was literally hitchhiking as I was headed back orth right at the beltway almost. Damn near caused a wreck pulling over to snag her up. She hopped in and I was a little disappointed to see that she was older than the young yummies I like to feast upon but she was still really good looking. Told me she was 40. She also had a little too much junk in the trunk for my taste but by this time lips wrapped around my cock could make me a whole lot less picky. She said she was a former stripper and was headed over to Waldorf. I told her I could head that way. It became apparent that she really was hitchhiking and not really working. I steered the conversation around to what she did and she was unemployed and I commented on how money must be tight and she agreed. She asked if I went to any of the clubs in Waldorf and I said no they were too tame for me and I preferred the in your face nasty action action of Baltimre Block clubs and liked getting blowjobs there to whch she asked how much that cost and pretty soo we're talking about the price of a blowjob by her. Conversation was going great and by this time we were back off the beltway when it became apparent that she wasn't going to provide a BBBJ only a CBJ. Well, I explained to her that I had my rules and that BBBJ only was one of them and furthermore, if I don't come in her mouth at least if not swallow then it wouldn't fill the bill for me. I was pretty damn sure that she would cave when she saw I was prepared to walk but she was tough and stuck to her guns so being the hardnosed prick I am I simply pulled over to the side of the road and booted her ass out right then and there, spun the Caddy around and headed back up the road. Fuck it! If the girl won't put out on my terms then she's walkin'. Every time. Them's my rules and I'm stickin' to 'em, dammit.

Amp_Man
01-09-03, 00:32
Originally posted by tonydasnake
I had to goto Burke today on business so checked the sports page for amps in the area; ended up going to "Port Royal" at 5414-D Port Royal road (near 495 & Braddock). It was in industrial park at end of road, NOT a sweet location for the sake of their business. I was ready to bolt the first ugly girl I saw, but very sexy and cute girl "mindy" answers so I'm in!

I pay my $60 and Mindy gives me excellent bath, and covers my unit with little washcloth which I found funny. When she asks if she can wash that I say "my third leg? sure!" We proceed to room and she gives me massage, and then repeats with oil. "Do you want me to massage anywhere else?" she says and I just put her hand on the snake. She has those tight little black sport shorts on and I ask if she can take them off. She pulls them to her knees, with no underwear on. She has an athletic body with beautiful muscular legs and perfect firm ass. She oils the snake and is doing her HJ and I, meanwhile, get some oil from her and play with her ass and pussy. I don't know if she'd let me insert finger since I didn't try. She has small but shapely breasts but they were too sensitive and when I touched them she found it ticklish and didn't like it. I had already decided I didn't want FS and had put out $40 tip for her to see. After all was done I asked her about FS and she said we don't do it here, but I didn't slap down $100 to find out either so who knows. She would be a dream to bang IMHO! One thing a bit odd was she started to kiss me near the end of session, and with tongue! My conclusion was she wanted to give a bit of GFE so I'd be a repeat. Sweet girl, sexy, friendy and maybe late 20's agewise.

Was in the Springfield are myself on Monday and just happen to remember Tony's review on a location nearby, I decided to check it out. The location is accurate, and as a matter of fact, they do get some traffic...at least when I stopped by, one guy was leaving and another was following me in. After ringing the door bell, an older woman (late 30) answered the door, before I could ask for Mindy, she pulled me in, rushed me into a room and closes the door. I asked if Mindy was working today, and she shook her head and shrug her shoulder not knowing who Mindy was. I asked to see who else was working, she asked me to wait and called another lady in, although younger, she wasn't much better, and didn't know who Mindy was either. Not in the mood for older women that day, I left.

I decided to stop by Spring Spa on Backlick. And let me tell you, another bad experience. After being let in by the mamasan, I asked if I could see who was working...she calls by the first girl who was again older, and looks like in the mid 30s (although she claims she was 24), then the second lady came in and again, around the same age, but no physical apperience so I decided to choose the first one, her name was Candient (either that or Candy with an acent). So the usual 60 for hour. Usual preceremonial shower and I was led back to the room. Horrible massage! She then turns me over and starts rubbing the front, and moving downward. After awhile she starts on the groin and asks if wanted full service, not really liking the service I was getting I declined and asked for oral only. She wanted 80 for oral and 60 for the hj. After I refused, she backs down to 70 for the oral...still high, but I was done for evening anyhow (now out of 60), I accepted. The worse oral I have ever received! After 5 minutes she complains her mouth was tired and wanted to give me a hj. I said hell no, I paid for the oral...so continue please. At this time, because I was so turned off, I was taking her more effort to keep me aroused. After a few more minutes I was getting tired of her act, I concentrated on a previous (nicer) experience elsewhere and finished.

Guys don't waste your time here, the service was terrible and her attitude didn't do her justice either.

amp_man

Knuckhead
01-09-03, 00:50
Rip-Off Experience report:

Having tried different AMP's for a while, I decided to venture out a little. I saw the ad for "Tracey" in Eros-DC, called up and got an appointment. To make a long story short, the girl was not that in the picture, the "service" was one hour of "massage" followed by HJ, and I was $250 poorer!!

Globetrotter
01-09-03, 02:06
Trashman,

First let me thank you for all your entertaining and informative posts. You sure are one busy guy - how the hell do you find the time (not to mention money) to do so much hunting? Anyway, keep up the good work.

As far as your experiences or lack thereof with the Rte. 1 area, what you reported is not at all unusual. The 7-11 is on Fairhaven Road, I believe. There is a motel directly across the street and directly across Rte. 1, there is a Ford dealership. I have cruised there hundreds of time and have only found some action there twice and, as it so happens, the two times occurred in the last two weeks. I posted my experience with the first SW about 2 weeks ago. Last week, I went by the 7-11 again and spotted a potential companion walking across the street in the motel parking lot. I drove around to get a closer look and drove by her slowly as she was turning into Fairhaven. She looked my way and gave me that smile that lets you know she's definitely on duty and I pulled in to the 7-11 parking lot and waited for her there. Unlike my last encounter there, this one did not turn out so well. Nervousness from being out in the open and her lack of talent made it impossible to bring the whole matter to a satisfactory conclusion. perhaps under better circumstances, things might have worked out differently. I did get her pager number, which I have not yet tried and if you want me to backchannel you with the info, I'd be glad to share it with you.

Like the last SW I picked up there, this one also does not live in the area. She was from Woodbridge and just comes up to Alexandria once in a while to make a few bucks. She told me there are a lot of girls working the area but you have to be patient and persistent in your search. It's not like Baltimore where you're almost guaranteed a hit every time you go. I just don't have the kind of time to invest and so I just do drive by's and hope to get lucky once in a while. Good luck!

Va Gent
01-09-03, 14:55
Sexplorer: Tracey has gone by many numerous names in the past. She has history on other boards. When she gets bad reviews she changes her names and pix's. Sorry that happened to you. I too, am a victim.

TrashMan
01-09-03, 15:43
Trotter,

I actually spend less time and $$ than you think. I simply make sure that I use my time efficiently and don't spend hours on end cruising with nothing to show for it as I read some others seem to do. Like you I tend to drive by a few times and if there is no action I move on and perhaps come back another time. I did decide to spend a little more time in this case as research.
I suspected that I might very likely strike out here but sometimes new hunting grounds need to be explored to see if they are worth expending more energy on.

I too have observed closely the cheapie motels in this area but have yet to see any girls coming or going. I guess I have just not been lucky yet

TonydaSnake
01-09-03, 16:30
amp_man,

Tough day! You're post made me cringe in my seat and feel your pain. Trashman has said it before but I'll say it again; NoVa amps are a tough gig especially with limited funds. Hell, if you have the money, it doesn't matter much as you can just experiment away. But I am, personally tired of an "almost" experience only to be told next time I'll get what I want!

Conclusion: again as Trashman says, endure the additional inconvenience and hit some DC amps, or be prepared to make do with a HJ. Maybe if we only tip $15. for HJ (if we've asked for more but don't get it) a message will be sent.

I've hit at least four amps in two months $400+ and gotten HJ's. OK, I knew what I was getting into so I'm not whining about this. But, I am about ready to go back to the bar/club scene since it ain't hard to get more action than that especially if you were to throw away $100. on drinks!!!!

This brings back a memory; I took a girlfriend to a nice restaurant (on route 7 at route 123 exit) a few years back and when leaving I saw several hot chicks at bar by themselves. One looked at me and I knew she was "available." Obviously, if you're 40 or 50 years old the twenty something bars aren't gonna cut it. But. there are plenty of other options. Maybe I'll do some research in this area?

traveler
01-09-03, 20:36
[QUOTE]Originally posted by TrashMan
[i]Jaymess and Globetrotter,
At first I didn't know which 7-11 you were referring to so I cruised Rte 1 and looked at several of them in the area as well as the McDonalds mentioned but saw nothing. I went back and reread the posts and figured out exactly which location you mentioned and went back to check it out on 2 other occaisons now without any success. I have tried driving by and cruising Rte 1 and then drive by again. I have tried parking and going in and hanging around a little bit. I have tried parking both in the lot as well as on the street and just sitting. I have tried at noon, 1pm, 2pm, and 3pm time slots all to no avail.
Am I just unlucky because I'm a dumbass or because there are very few and I have simply not lucked out timing wise yet, or am I at the wrong place? Help me ut with any good advise you may have for me. I assumed that the girls might rove from place to place to avoid attracting too much attention so that's wh I checked out the other snack joints.

Trashman, Check out my November 23rd Post. I hit paydirt in that area one time. Leslie told me that not too many girls work that area, but they are there from time to time. Traveler
]

Amp_Man
01-10-03, 01:25
Originally posted by tonydasnake
amp_man,

Tough day! You're post made me cringe in my seat and feel your pain. Trashman has said it before but I'll say it again; NoVa amps are a tough gig especially with limited funds. Hell, if you have the money, it doesn't matter much as you can just experiment away. But I am, personally tired of an "almost" experience only to be told next time I'll get what I want!

Conclusion: again as Trashman says, endure the additional inconvenience and hit some DC amps, or be prepared to make do with a HJ. Maybe if we only tip $15. for HJ (if we've asked for more but don't get it) a message will be sent.

I've hit at least four amps in two months $400+ and gotten HJ's. OK, I knew what I was getting into so I'm not whining about this. But, I am about ready to go back to the bar/club scene since it ain't hard to get more action than that especially if you were to throw away $100. on drinks!!!!

This brings back a memory; I took a girlfriend to a nice restaurant (on route 7 at route 123 exit) a few years back and when leaving I saw several hot chicks at bar by themselves. One looked at me and I knew she was "available." Obviously, if you're 40 or 50 years old the twenty something bars aren't gonna cut it. But. there are plenty of other options. Maybe I'll do some research in this area?

I know what you men Snake, I definitely won't be visiting any of the NOVA amps again anytime soon. I travel quite a bit for work and NOVA is home for me, and since I saw the NOVA are was staffing backup with AMPS I decided to check one out. Normally I don't shop at home. I have to say, SF and Sydney, AU remains my favorites. Have you got any good places in DC you'd care to share via back channel?

ampguest@yahoo.com

amp_man.

Member #2980
01-15-03, 00:09
Sircumalot:

Did you go back for FS? I just went and had Sandi. Did not get a peek at the other girls. She was nice in the looks department, likely in her 30's. I was explicit in having just a massage - pretty lame maybe, but hey, I like conversation and practice my Korean. The place (Yungs in the Post but Youngs in neon) is at RT123 and Old Courthouse across from the hotel on Courthouse. On your right coming from Gallows way. She told me to come back either during the day or on a weekend. I ding-donged in a 8:40. This was a nicest (clean neat) AMP I've been to.

TrashMan
01-15-03, 00:34
Traveler my old friend,

My old lady is headed out of town for a while later this month starting the 22nd. If you want to get together some night and hit the streets together, perhaps a foray into the finer side of Baltimore's sleazetown?
Back channel at The _Real_TrashMan@hotmail.com

Motorback
01-15-03, 22:07
I've been out of the area for a bit on travel. Can anyone tell me where there are any good adult bookstores in NOVA or DC?

Motorback@yahoo.com

calvin32
01-18-03, 15:24
So far, I've batted 2 for 2 at amp's in NOVA. One was at Spring Spa, by a lady in her 30's. She had a nice body and when I told her that I was going to tip her, she was happy to please and gave me all she's got. She even introduced me to mamasan, so that the next time I go there, they know why I'm there. The second place was at HWC, which was hard to find. Read from somewhere that this is the place to go for full service. If there are any other amps in NOVA that's full service, please share. But from my experience, if you really want to get a good service, D.C. amps are the place to go. I've had one girl in Ginza who gave me the full GFE experience, where we were at it for full hour like some high school kids.

TimMay
01-18-03, 16:34
Anybody know of any other sites/boards that have info for mongers? thanks in advance, if you would rather back channel...

timmay422@yahoo.com

jayemmess2003
01-21-03, 14:49
Traveler,

No, I think it's pure dumb luck on my part... have driven thru that area on and off for years, but just now got "lucky"...

I'll be back and forth thru there over the next few weeks. If I see "anything", I'll post here...

J

Vagringo
01-23-03, 12:45
I also agree kinja is a direct hit but there is no hunt it is just ok give me 160also been to song gong it has not been so easy hwc also is direct hit for f/s

TonydaSnake
01-23-03, 21:42
Hit amp today called Youngs (rte 123 $ Chain Bridge Rd) that was posted about recently. Went with girl named "miko" who answered door. She had sort of hard edge about her that made me think this might not be fun. But I saw some humor through it so decided to try her out. She gave a good massage that was very hard, but I did feel much better after. Massage was short and she asked if I wanted massage "there" and how much. I said $40 and she was OK with that, but I told her that I'd like to masage and lick her anywhere I want to. This took $20 more to make her happy. She let me massage her and then started to get into it. She kept asking for harder and harder touch, and started to really loosen up. Since she was on stomach I started to lick her ass and thighs. After a while she flips over and asks me if I'll go down on her so I oblidge. After about TEN minutes she has orgasm (no acting here my friends). I asked her if she got her $60. worth and she laughed. Now she was a different person, and finished me with a HJ which is all I wanted. I'm all but sure she would have done FS but for more money of course. At any rate if I go back I can expect GFE. She was probably in her thirties and no hottie but she grew on me. She had a petite body and I liked her face. Its nice to know you can spend $120. and actually lick a girl's *****! That's a joke...

Va Gent
01-24-03, 11:04
Got another Dud for you.

After seeing many posts by this lady Collette/magic I decided to give her a visit. I assume she has to keep changing her name and phone numbers due to bad reviews.

She has a cool apartment, you almost feel like you have gone back in time. Original Coca Cola stuff everywhere. It is almost like a museum.

Now for the session. NOT a GFE! Don't do that, don't touch me there, that is how the entire session went and was never so happy to leave and never to return. She looks good but her pics are old and she is older than she presents herself. She is in Springfield/Alexandria area.

TrashMan
01-26-03, 20:41
VA Gent,
Man that is the number one thing that pisses me off and makes me reluctant to try new escorts. You can only screen them but so well on the phone. In fact, if you ask too many questions, they tend to get nervous. Generally speking I ask if they speak greek. If yes, then you know the rules are probably pretty relaxed. Sometimes I will ask if a raincoat is required for french lessons but usually they get nervous then or lie.
Then you get there and try to size up the situation and even if they pass the not too bad looking when compared to their web site pics they always seem to be pretty good at getting the $$ before bringing up rules. I have gotten to the point though of being a wary consumer and just lay the cards on the table as to what I expect as bare minimums. I get as specific as possible as to where my fingers and tongue will be going and so forth. I figure that if they don't want to play by my rules to an extent then fuck it I'm leaving. And I have done that rather than get ripped off. Hey, I'm spoiled now what can I say?

Va Gent
01-27-03, 16:08
Hey Trashman

Try Paige in Arlington or Laura of NOVA, (Woodbridge) both use translators but have a high degree of talent with them. They are what you see is what you get. Both will offer and give 2nd helpings on the coffeee.

I am still so pissed at this Colette/Magic lady. What a manic moment that was.

traveler
01-27-03, 20:23
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Va Gent
[i]Got another Dud for you.

Va Gent, how much did Collette Charge for the session? I had plans on visiting her, but after your post, will probably change my mind. I had read a post some time ago that she was pretty good. Traveler

lancearm
01-28-03, 09:12
I'm wondering if anyone is familiar with any upper scale or business hotels in the Northern Virginia area (Dulles, Arlington, Alesandria, Crystal City, etc.) where one may find in the cocktail lounge or lobby bar the occational higher class "escort" or call girl (not your traditional SW) similar to what's easily found in many of the cocktail lounges in most Las Vegas hotels or at many convention or major airport hotels in other cities.
I prefer the comfort of a hotel or cocktail lounge versus the hassle of LE on the street.

Originally posted on the Wash. DC board, and was recommended to check No. VA.

Va Gent
01-28-03, 12:33
Traveler, it was $$1/2, not worth it. The lady thinks she is Betty Boop and she's a far cry from it. Not personable, not inviting and not good at her job. Big 3 strikes***

Nova Guy
01-28-03, 17:17
I've seen working girls in the bar at Clydes in Reston Town Center. Did not sample the platter but it was pretty apparent they were professionals.

Additional note to you NOVA AMP frequenters. I've been to 5 in NOVA and wanted to share my 2 fav's. Both are your standard 60$ door fee.

1. Used to be MST in Manassas. Renamed to something else now. No FS only HJ however the massage and the energetic girls more than make up for it. Good times to be had. Never been short changed. Seen 3 different attendants. 2 out of the 3 were def 7+ rating.

2. Little place in Manassas off of 28 S right across the county line in a small strip mall on the left next to a pawn shop. Your buck will go a long long way there (Room for negotiation). They do try and shuffle you in and out as it gets quite busy sometimes. Here's the score:

60 - Safety
80 - Field Goal
100 - Touchdown

If you like winning and are a champion - you will find what you need at the above granted the ladies rate 4 - 5 ish.

Be safe & happy hunting.

Vagringo
01-29-03, 14:51
hey guys here the scoop on a few sites we discussed SON GOONG is still hj only but more touch and feel than most the boss tells the girls no sex or they will be fired I asked so kinja is still the only 1 on pw east side and that is fs basicaly dc prices still outside the beltway

traveler
01-29-03, 21:19
Originally posted by Va Gent
Traveler, it was $$1/2, not worth it. The lady thinks she is Betty Boop and she's a far cry from it. Not personable, not inviting and not good at her job. Big 3 strikes***

Thanks Va Gent. That's too much money for a bad experience. Wish I could find one like Trashman did. Check out his post on the DC board. He has all the fun! Traveler

LoveLOS
01-30-03, 03:35
Originally posted by Nova Guy
Additional note to you NOVA AMP frequenters. I've been to 5 in NOVA and wanted to share my 2 fav's. Both are your standard 60$ door fee.

Here's the score:
60 - Safety
80 - Field Goal
100 - Touchdown



Great Info NOVA GUY! Any other AMPs where TD is the norm?

Thanks,
LoveLOS

Nova Guy
01-30-03, 11:35
None in NOVA besides the one I referenced that I'm aware of.

Couple places I'm shaky of though.
- relatively new AMP up off of 7 near the hampton inn. Waste of cash, but clean.

-place off of Sullyfield Cir of of 50. Thats hit or miss. One day I'll go in and my attendant is horrible - horrible massage...all around. Next day - get a good one. I tend to avoid that one now adays since my last attendant was a good 30 years older than me.

-a lil AMP right behind the one above (same building - parking lot behind it) is a bit strange. Been there twice. First time was typical. Second time was strange in that she had a towel on me and REFUSED a tip. *shrug*

All the above resulted in your standard HJ with the ball playing yada yada yada (except the one who was 30+ my age)

Now -- if you want a sure thing and Manassas isn't satisfying you enough....Washington DC. If you know where Camelots is there is 2 MP right by there...like next door! One on the third floor (AMP) and its full service. 100 bucks. ONe on the second floor (ICM) - havent' been yet but I've heard that white/black/latino are available for your enjoyment and its strictly HJ only. Typically, if its an AMP in DC -- its FS.

Happy Hunting and Be Safe.

jayemmess2003
01-30-03, 20:18
Hi y'all...
hit Kinja (sp?) for a daytime visit - was in business in the area, so stopped by. Typical AMP setup.... easy to get to w/good parking, though. Greeted by K**** , rather tall (I'm 5'11"... she wasn't much shorter), and rather nice looking. Had time, so paid for the full hour. Table shower, etc., and a surprisingly good massage - actually very nice! Afterwards, some interesting "foreplay"... but only a field goal, no touchdown (sorry - the previous post w/a guide cracked me up). Not sure if FS was doable, but really didn't persue it. It was OK, not at the level of a DC AMP. Hope this helps,
J

LoveLOS
01-31-03, 06:44
Thanks Nova Guy!

Va Gent
01-31-03, 19:15
Anybody know anything about Lisa of Alexandria? Saw a post by her the other day, no link no pics nothing. I e-mailed her and have heard nothing. I guess that should tell me something. I did hear a less than steller review b/c.

LoveLOS
02-01-03, 02:21
Originally posted by Nova Guy


Now -- if you want a sure thing and Manassas isn't satisfying you enough....Washington DC. If you know where Camelots is there is 2 MP right by there...like next door! One on the third floor (AMP) and its full service. 100 bucks. ONe on the second floor (ICM) - havent' been yet but I've heard that white/black/latino are available for your enjoyment and its strictly HJ only. Typically, if its an AMP in DC -- its FS.

My only experience with DC is an AMP called Olympic, I think. This was in MAY, so this report is not current, but asking for a girl by name may get you past some of the initial distrust. Had good time with a pretty hot Korean girl named "Tina." About 20-22yrs, 5'2" fake tits, hard body, nice CBJ, and later FS mish style, talked dirty. $60 house and $160 to her for two releases.

Please asvise if anyone knows about this AMP and/or this girl.

LoveLOS

TrusgrBear
02-02-03, 12:09
Hello everyone... this is my first post so please bare with me.... Lovelos read your last post about the 2 MP's down by Camelot. Can you advise more on the specfic location of these espically the AMP that is FS. Would greatly appreciate the info...

Sir Cumalot
02-03-03, 03:02
Originally posted by lancearm
I'm wondering if anyone is familiar with any upper scale or business hotels in the Northern Virginia area (Dulles, Arlington, Alesandria, Crystal City, etc.) where one may find in the cocktail lounge or lobby bar the occational higher class "escort" or call girl (not your traditional SW) similar to what's easily found in many of the cocktail lounges in most Las Vegas hotels or at many convention or major airport hotels in other cities.
I prefer the comfort of a hotel or cocktail lounge versus the hassle of LE on the street.

Originally posted on the Wash. DC board, and was recommended to check No. VA.

Not too sure about NoVA since the dot bomb crash. You used to be able to find them at all the upscale places in Tysons. Maybe check Clydes ... I saw a few that certainly had the look this weekend. Or, you can go to DC. The Bar at the Capital Grill on Constitution and 5th (over by the Canadian Embassy and the Federal Courts) is crawling with them, as is Cafe Deluxe in (same goes for the Tyson's branch) and Cafe Milano, both in Georgetown (upper Wisconsin) But be prepared to shell out SERIOUS bucks. Almost not worth it in DC where there are SOOOOO many young women looking to fuck any guys brains out who has even the most remote possibility of helping their careers. Wait, doesn't that make them ******? Yes, ALL of the professional women in DC are hookers. . . Just need to figue out the price.

LoveLOS
02-03-03, 03:40
Originally posted by trusgrbear
Hello everyone... this is my first post so please bare with me.... Lovelos read your last post about the 2 MP's down by Camelot. Can you advise more on the specfic location of these espically the AMP that is FS. Would greatly appreciate the info...

Hi TrusgrBear,

Hope the "Bear" part bears no relation to the CB slang - as in smokey the Bear... If so, please remember that anything posted here is total fabrication from the deluded minds of wannabe punters... End of disclaimer.

I was quoting NOVA GUY, but maybe he can answer the question also. As far as my report, here are more details - I had to do some research, but found it:

Olympic Spa
1936 9th St. NW near 9th and U sts.
202-518-7690

They asked if I had been there before. As usual, I lied and said Yes. One detail omitted, one release would have been $100 tip to the girl. The rest of this fable is detailed below.

LoveLOS

TrusgrBear
02-03-03, 09:07
No, Lovelos... the "bear" does not mean smokey. Not even close. so no worries.

thnks for the info... i will give the olympic a try... but that is not close to camelots.. camelots is up on 19th & M. around that area, close to conn ave. i guess i'll have to go up that way and walk around a lil and see if i can find the one's you mentioned over top of camelots...

If you are looking for one to try... ck out international spa.. down on New York ave. it's on the second floor of the international building, across from the skylark strip club... i've had several good experiences down there.. one flat fee $160 for massage and fs.

Nova Guy
02-03-03, 15:55
Trusgrbear,

Imagine you are standing across the street from Camelot starting str8 at it. Immediately to left of it is a building with a big awning covering the stairs up into the building.

In there you will find the two gems I referenced in my prior posts. Got some more info on ICM (second hand). Seems to be quite pricey. 100$ for 1/2 hour - 160$ for hour. However, the selection of ladies is quite good and their ethnicity ranges from black...white...hispanic. So, I guess your paying for a little more selection than the typical AMP. Extras at ICM seem limited so far. HJ only from what I've read.

NE how...in that building - you will find hand written signs for "Asian Massage Parlor - 3rd floor". Upon going up the stairs -- you will actually walk through ICM to get to the third floor. Very strange.

Be safe and happy hunting.

Vagringo
02-03-03, 16:52
yes dc is always a sure thing but guys check out the old posts 160 is the norm for f/s no way around iit pw county has at least 6 amp now kinja and hwc is f/s fairfax has a few. what i do is visit 1 time and observe by the third time it is usualy all the way evan 69 a few times haha so this does take a bit of paitence guys if not hit dc there are at least 20 amp with no hassles

TonydaSnake
02-03-03, 17:39
Please anyone who posts on NoVa amps try and be more specific since there is way too much vague info. If you got FS or anything more than standard HJ, how many visits did it take and who was the girl. At least give a good description if not the name!

I have long suspected that one has to goto a VA amp at least twice to get FS (if at all), but have never been to a specific AMP more than twice (and never got FS). Anyone get FS first try? Second? Third?

Again, AMP info that doesn't include names, how much$$$ and how it was handed over, along with location of joint is all but useless IMHO.

C'mon fellow mongerers let's really try and help eachother out...!

TonydaSnake
02-03-03, 18:26
I'd like to compile a complete list of All NoVa amps, but the info provided thus far in posts is too weak. Anyone who thinks it would be helpful to have a list please post with details so we can develop NoVa amps as a useful resource. Amps will be rated on 1-10 scale with 5 being the average, boring HJ. Just about any amp gives up a HJ, so initially, this list will focus on FS and NO SERVICE establishments!


1) Youngs (7.5 Rating);1880 Howard ave. Suite 202, Tyson's Corner - At least three very good post with mongers giving and receiving oral. Girls seem to be genuinely horny, and willing to talk money for services. FS is confirmed, but not until second visit. Quality of girls overall seems to be average. Standard $60/hr. rate + tips.

2) HWC (7.5 Rating); 12504-D Lake Ridge Dr., Woodbridge - Multiple post from different mongers stating that this IS the place for FS in NoVa. Posts contained too few details about experiences so rating is 7.5, very good, but there is room for improvement and development of this amp.!

Sir Cumalot
02-04-03, 01:53
Originally posted by tonydasnake
I have long suspected that one has to goto a VA amp at least twice to get FS (if at all), but have never been to a specific AMP more than twice (and never got FS). Anyone get FS first try? Second? Third?

Again, AMP info that doesn't include names, how much$$$ and how it was handed over, along with location of joint is all but useless IMHO.

C'mon fellow mongerers let's really try and help eachother out...!

Second try was the charm at Youngs, wasn't with the same girl, but she remembered me from the first time I was there.

I WILL be back. Mostly, same story as before, but they were much friendlier right off the bat. She said she heard good things about me. Gave me a deep tongue kiss to start the night off.

After sponge bath, we went back in and she had me lay down. She did the massage thing for a bit, started playing with my balls, i grabbed her hand, pulled her towards me, and began kissing her while my other hand slid in her pants. It wasn't long before I had them off, and her up on the bench. We 69'd, then I ate her out, then we fucked and we fucked hard. At one point, she was sitting on my dick, with her back to me, bouncing up and down pulling on my nut sack. It was great and she kept saying, in her Korean Accent "Hot Hot hot, This is soooo hot, Hot hot hot"

Classic!

Sir Cumalot
02-04-03, 02:01
Originally posted by trusgrbear
Hello everyone... this is my first post so please bare with me.... Lovelos read your last post about the 2 MP's down by Camelot. Can you advise more on the specfic location of these espically the AMP that is FS. Would greatly appreciate the info...

OK, they are at approx. 1850 M Street. It is M, between 18 (and Connecticut) and 19. Its right where 18 and Connecticut meet. American express is over there. The Daily Grill (a great place to pick up HIGH priced escorts) is on the corner. Ozio is next door.

Anyway, Johanna's 1819 club is a strip bar next to Ozio. At, surprise surprise, 1819 M Street. There is a cigar shop or something next to it, and then Camelot (which has MUCH MUCH hoter girls than Johannas, the across the hall from me at work used to date one of the Camelot girls. She is SUPER smoking but ended up moving to NY City to act or somthing lame. He's not a high roller, but grew up around town and knew this girl from high school or something (hes in his late 20s now)

Anyway, next to Camelot is a bikini store up some stairs. I think the door is on that stair case.

yes, it is full service (from what i heard) but its a tad pricey mid day and at happy hour seems to always have some japanese tourists/business men in it. Have not expereinced it, but am familiar with it. From what I gather, it is not related at all to either strip club (both of which are very clean upstanding places that take in millions of dollars a month)

Globetrotter
02-04-03, 02:24
Since we got a little break from the cold weather today, I thought I would check out the SW scene by the 7-11, just off Rte. 1 in Alexandria and see if the warmer temps made more of them appear. I parked near the 7-11 for around 10 minutes and waited and sure enough spotted one getting out of a car. I drove closer to get a better view and she gave me "the wave" to let me know she was on duty, but I drove on and around the block without stopping. Had second thoughts and went back for another look. At this point, she had crossed Rte 1 and walked slowly across by the Ford dealership. This time, eye contact was made again and I rolled down the window when she came to my car. My previous suspicions were confirmed - she was a bonafide ugly so I moved on. I may be a cheap bastard but I do have my standards. Went back for another round near the 7-11 and spotted another one getting out of a car. Definitely on duty, but as she probably outweighed me by 100 lbs. I passed on that golden opportunity as well. So, struck out but action seemed to have picked up a little. I think the trick at that particular hunting ground is to just hang out, have a little patience and eventually the SW's start showing up. Worth a try.

TonydaSnake
02-04-03, 16:51
sircumalot,

Thanks for doing the hard nosed research. One would have to be a fool to not see that amps are becoming the dominant sex resource in NoVa. And we mongers would be fools to not pass good information and try to develop this resource more to our advantage! I believe it was your original post about Youngs that made me try it and my experience was similar to yours with significant oral action. I thought FS was probable on next visit and you have confirmed it.

The reason I think it is also important to post details of HOW we succeeded at amps is because otherwise some monger is going to go into an amp where he read so and so got such and such and he is going to say "a friend of mine got laid her so why can't I." We know that's not good for business and thats why I try to give enough info for other mongers to try and repeat my experience pretty much step by step.

Obviously there are many factors like mood of the girl that day, whether she likes you at all, or how busy the amp is but I think we will see consistencies developing in amp as we start to post in more detail.

Figrindan
02-05-03, 00:33
You guys want to know names and numbers, dates and places for AMPs? Go to www.sex-reviews.net.

Sir Cumalot
02-05-03, 01:25
Originally posted by tonydasnake
sircumalot,

Thanks for doing the hard nosed research.

Hard nose, yes. My nose, was hard and WAAAAYYY up her twat. Followed by the nose on my other head :)



The reason I think it is also important to post details of HOW we succeeded at amps is because otherwise some monger is going to go into an amp where he read so and so got such and such and he is going to say "a friend of mine got laid her so why can't I." We know that's not good for business and thats why I try to give enough info for other mongers to try and repeat my experience pretty much step by step.

Obviously there are many factors like mood of the girl that day, whether she likes you at all, or how busy the amp is but I think we will see consistencies developing in amp as we start to post in more detail.

I couldn't agree with you more. Your attitude and presentation is vital to success. These girls are on a constant lookout for the boys in blue. If they don't trust you, your going home to wack it. Also, they are women and have the same needs and desires as all others. Show a little respect, toss out a few compliments (especially clean ones), engage in some sort of meaningful conversation and just be a gentleman and you will go far.

calvin32
02-05-03, 15:06
Question: How many times do I have to go to the same amps in Nova before I could get a full service??

Answer: Once and only once. Went to Spring Spa in Springfield first time and got it there. Went to HWC once and same. Both full service, both $100 tip. Think about it guys, if a girl is offering you a hand release and you accept, then you're NOT an LE. LE can not and will not accept hand release. So what's stopping the girls from giving full service until second or even third visit, money and more money. It's a game they're playing. You just have to out smart them or else, you'll end up going there two-three time before getting what you really want. If the girls are touching your little man, then after that, everything is a fair game, cause LE will not allow the girls to touch their parts.

TonydaSnake
02-05-03, 23:26
figrindan,

thanks for the suggestion; next time I have a sexventure, I'll post about it there so I can access the reviews.

sircumalot,

I'm quite pleased that one of the better NoVa amps "Youngs" is a short walk from my house. I hope they stay around awhile!

SWCruiser
02-05-03, 23:45
Hey Globe,

What time were you at the 7-11 on rte 1? I cruised the area at around 8pm this evening and saw two likely prostpects. Pulled up to one - pretty old, kinda of scary face. She smiled, but (thankfully) the light changed. When I came back a short while later, the other one was near the corner, and she came over to my window to talk, but I noticed two LE in my rear view parked up near the fork in the road behind me and waived off. She was thinner looking, black - not too dark - cute smile, maybe mid 30s. Either sound like the ones you saw? The area's been pretty dry for a while now, so I wonder whether these girls are for real. Ever heard of LE running a sting from this area? (although I can't imagine LE using an old lady for a sting.)

Globetrotter
02-06-03, 02:05
SW,

When I cruise Rte. 1, it's always between 1:00 PM and 3:00 PM. The ones I saw were definitely not LE but I wouldn't touch them either - Like I said, I have my standards. Although I've never heard of or seen stings in that area, I'm sure they happen from time to time so be careful. Thought I was going to get lucky today as I drove by there, Spotted this pretty young thing walking on S. King's Highway. As I drove by, she made eye contact and so I waved and she waved back but kept walking. I turned around and as I drove by her again and gestured for her to come to my car when I stopped across the street. Unfortunately, she kept walking so was probably not a working girl. She did look too good to be SW, especially for that area but you never know so I tried.

rkosonom
02-06-03, 03:40
sircumalot - How much did you tip the girl at Youngs? I work in the Tyson's area and I am planning to go in the next couple of days. It would be nice to know how much is the standard tip

Also, I read in one of the posts that there seems to be some professionals working out of the Clyde's at Reston. Is there any special day when you can find them? And how can you recognize them?

These questions may seem silly for the "experienced" people but I am just getting started on this and some good advice would not hurt at all

Thanks!

TrashMan
02-06-03, 10:38
SW,
One thing I can tell you about stings, when they are working them, the girls they use as bait are young and cute as in too good to believe so your mind is on them instead of the rear view mirror. Plus stings are usually run either with unmarked cars or the cruisers are out of sight.
So the chances are very good that the black girl was legit, but you were prudent to end the conversation with a couple cruisers in eyesight. Although they might not be looking for you, they are hip to what these girls are doing and for the most part, they ignore it but every once in awhile they get ambitious and nail some poor slob. Better safe than in the pokey. Globe and one other guy whose name escapes me seem to have all the luck at this spot. I tried it several times alternating times without seeing even a fugly girl.

TonydaSnake
02-06-03, 17:53
rkosonom,

Hopefully, sircumalot will check in with us on this, but I thought I'd reply as well since I had an experience similar to his at Youngs. You pay the standard $60 fee (60 minutes) to Youngs when you get to your room. The girl asked me what I wanted and how much I wanted to pay after an initial short massage. I found that a bit unusual since often you have to broach the subject of extra services. Anyways, I told her I wanted to touch or lick her anywhere and we agreed on $60. tip. This was one of those lucky experiences where the girl got into it, and she wouldn't let me stop licking her until she came. I was rubbing my unit between her legs and while she didn't ask me to stick it in she wasn't protesting either. As a result I can't say how much more she would ask for for FS.

The standard for FS is $100.00, PLAIN AND SIMPLE, and don't expect it on your 1st visit to Youngs or any NoVa amp. FS is a bonus in NoVa!! If you have the skills to relax your girl, turn the tables, and turn her on a bit, then a less than $100 payout is possible. There is absolutely no reason for the girl to take less than $100 (a well known standard)unless she is getting something out of it. But as others have said, they are only human. I'd like to hear what sircumalot paid as well...!

traveler
02-06-03, 20:27
Folks, let's talk a little about the NOVA AMPs. While it is true that there are several that are not FS, there are some that are. For one, you need to be more adamant in your request. Make it known that a HJ just won't do it. If insistence doesn't work, then mark that AMP off your list...for good. HWC and AHP are definitely FS. I've talked about the routine many times. I also hear that Kinja is FS, but haven't tried it yet. After your table shower, lay your $100 on the table. I always lay my watch or something on top of the money. This leaves the signal that what they see is a "possible" tip. If they insist on just a HJ, they will get a Jackson and that's all. Hey! I've got a hand of my own! It's the pussy I'm after and that's what I will pay the big bucks for. Nothing less. On a few occasions, I have run across a girl at HWC that won't give FS. I think this has happened only twice there for me. And I've been there a bunch of times. Never been refused FS at AHP. In fact, I visited AHP yesterday and had a fine young lady named Sunny. She was definitely a 9 in looks. Really slim with nice, but small tits. She fucked my ears off! I went to Spring one time. Got FS, but only after insistence. When the girl found out that I wasn't going to accept anything less, she came across with the pussy. And, it was pretty good. She got into it once we got started. Don't buy into this shit about "Next Time". Just let them know if there is no FS, there is not going to be a next time. Traveler

TrashMan
02-06-03, 22:38
To all you newbies or wannabe players, READ what Traveler just posted and believe it and memorize it because that's the bible on AMP basics, period. Any one of you who continues to post wimpy stories about HJ's you just got and how your hoping next time it'll be more after reading Traveler are just plain wussies. I'm not saying that you have to jump into full blown dumpster diving SW sleaze in order to be worthy of some respect, but for gods sake get with the fuckin' program and go out there and get some already!

Sir Cumalot
02-07-03, 00:24
OK. Here's the scoop. The gals are almost ALWAYS at Clydes in G-Town (as well as the Old Ebbit Grill). Since I work in DC, I don't hit Tysons Clydes too much for Happy Hour, rather Im there most weekends for lunch and/or dinner (their Sunday brunch is great and very affordable, not much more than McLean Family Restaurant which is my local fave). However, the few times I've been there during and shortly after the Happy Hour hour, they are pretty obvious. Look for very well dressed girls at the bar, usually by themselves nursing a drink, that just look slightly less interested in the usual small talk. They have a very professional air about them and just seem more something than the usual bar sluts. If you hit on them they will let you know the deal. If you hit on the wrong gal, you'll still get laid, just by a bar **** and not a Pro *****. You figure which is better, but its all pink inside. one just has a better chance of teaching you a few tricks, though you will pay for it.

As for Youngs . . .I think the others covered it. No, MR. Traveler, I was not told "Next Time." had they said that, there certainly would not be one. Rather, that was just the feeling I got after visiting (they just opened when i first showed up) and it proved true. As for tip, I paid the usual $60 for an hour (you can pay $45 for 1/2 hour but I doubt you get any with that) and never discussed a further tip. After the deed was done, I tipped her an additional $80. She gave me a look of pity in her eyes and I put another $20 in her panties while giving a deep tongue kiss.

I'll be back and get more. I am sure the 80 was fine cause they liked me, were comfortable with me, and have seen me a few times so they know they will get the cash in the long haul. However the extra $20 sealed the deal, and the manner in which it was paid out worked very well, and will ensure my welcome return this weekend :)

But as Travelr said, sometimes you need to force the issue. True, they are concerned about cops, but lets face it, these are "working girls" and they make money fucking. If they dont fuck they dont make as much. Guess what their gonna want to do .

Another hint, if you want better service without them looking at the clock, in addition to letting them know you, go at an off hour. I like to head over at night, when its slow and they are more relaxed. Works for both of us.

TonydaSnake
02-07-03, 02:38
With all due respect, sometimes Trashman you come across like a doctor who has given too many prostate exams. This isn't about proving we're men and not everyone wants or cares if they get FS from amps. I still think in NoVa (not DC) it is a total crap shoot, and even if you lay down your $100.00 in plain sight it is NOT a done deal. Bottom line, if the girl ain't willing, your still out your initial $60.00 and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. I try to down play folks expectations a bit who want to go ampin' because I think many go to the amps who would never go out on the streets, and they're not all just about burying the pink heat seeking moisture missle. I know that is #3 on my preferred pleasure list...

But if you do really want just IN OUT, then read what Traveler just posted and don't be a girlie boy.

TrashMan
02-07-03, 12:32
Point well taken. Wasn't trying to offend anybody with different tastes than mine. Each to his own as they say. Apologies to anyone offended. I just get a little frustrated when I read what sound like complaining about what some guys are getting and they seem to want more, but by the same token insist on either not reading and heeding good advise or naively go back again and again. My comments were aimed at those guys not anyone for whom a certain level of sexual service is what you're happy with and want nothing more. And you're absolutely right, just because you lay down your C note, it's no guarantee. However, there definitely are places, some in NOVA, at which it's 99% guaranteed and if that's what you want, you ought to go to those places. Admittedly, there is an element of boredom with the same old place all the time and the thrill of new victories is great.

TonydaSnake
02-07-03, 16:55
I've never really had that killer instinct when it comes to sex, and admittedly have missed out on many opportunities with pros and regular girls. But, I try to be matter of fact about it and not whine too much; and I agree that any one who posts and complains about situations where they HAVE control should be given an attitude adjustment.

I'm fascinated about AMPs from an internal point of view actually. We all assume they SHOULD want to do FS and make more money, but then one would think they'd go about it a bit more agressively. We all assume they are afraid of the police, but is FS a bigger crime than a HJ if it's paid for? If you consider it from the AMPs owner's point of view, then they might prefer that only HJs are given since their take ($60.00) remains the same, but with less risk perhaps. And although some working girls might want every penny, it is quite believable that many are satisfied making their $40-60.00 tip for a peasly HJ.

TrashMan
02-10-03, 02:21
It's entirely dependent upon the laws of a particular municipality. The penalties in VA are significantly higher for less of an offense than the same are in MD and the same is true for DC even more so. It also depends on how rigorously a particular local gov't chooses to enforce existing laws. Clearly DC is fairly lax in enforcing "victimless" crimes. They just have so much other bad crap to deal with and less budget and manpower than other areas so they choose which laws have priority in enforcement.
All this translates in to the cost of doing business in tems of fines or potential shutdowns / prosecutions. In DC the chances of them getting busted is low, the penalties light and inexpensive, and the prosecution levels are equally low, therefore their risk is low. Yes, it also does depend on the individual girl and her own risk tolerance as well. That's it in a nutshell. I guess there is also an element of market demand. IN DC, they are expected to put out all the way and very quickly their business would dry up if they did not. The same is not as true outside DC.

Happy Day
02-10-03, 10:49
I've been scoping out the Rt 1 / 7-11 area for some time now ... all to no avail. But, finally starting about a week ago, I've started seeing avail SW's. I've seen three so far. One around 11 am. The others around 11pm. The one I saw at 11 am was large and extremely ugly. I pulled into the 7-11 and she immedietly walked up to my car and asked if she could bum a cig. I said sorry, don't have any, and I immediately left. The other two matched the description that a couple of others mentioned recently ... the older haggered lady, and the cute black chick. I would've p/u'd the cute black girl but was in a rush and just drove thru the area on my way somewhere else. They seem to hang out at the corner ... at the bus stop ... and in front of the trash cans at the Psychic's place on the corner. Bottom line, they're appearing here again, so hopefully there will be more selection soon too.

Va Gent
02-10-03, 12:33
I had sometime over the weekend andi wanted to stay local, weather was bad. I took a chance and saw LisaofAlexandria. No bells and whistles, mechanical, not into the session. She looks good. I find I get better service from the ladies over 30 than the young twigs as I like to call them. This was a rushed session in fairness I did rush her with with available time. I called her and I do know most ladies like some fore time before appoint and I gave her maybe 30 minutes to get ready to see me and check me out. That may have been the problem but I am not intrested in returning to find out.

TrashMan
02-10-03, 21:35
Hooker report for NOVA

I received an email from a woman from www.escorts.com which in general is a pretty crappy web site if you ask me asking if I would be interested in getting together for playtime in exchange for a "gift". Her email was pretty explicit in terms of what she'd like to do and caught my attention so I decided to respond in kind. Well the emails started getting hotter and hotter and nastier and nastier so I decided to check her out. She made her rules clear which consisted of agreeing to her rate and a minimum of two hours. (200 +200 = 400 for the two hours ) I made clear my rules which are 1) BBBJTC is a must, 2) no bullshit "rules" like don't do this or don't touch that or I don't do that or any of those little cutesy moves they try in order to wiggle out of performing, and 3) for that much I want no limit pops and greek. She agreed.
She also tells me that she will meet me at her door wearing only a nightie and a blindfold! Hey, my kind of kinky woman! Now she's honest and tells me she's knockin' on 40 years old door and has a few extra lbs. The age I could deal with although you guys know I like 'em 1/2 my age and under, but the extra lbs worried me so I asked fo a pic. She sent one and it didn't look too bad to me so I went.
Well I am pleased to report that she deliverd the goods and then some. She was dressed as described and kept it on during fun time. It was a little wicked somehow which I liked and she knew how to extend that into her words and actions nicely. She had said in her email that she wanted her gift in an envelope which she was to get when I arrived and after she checked it we could play, but she never even asked for it. And this woman never said no, even when I surprised her and pulled out a big ass dildo, lubed it upgood and worked the entire length in and out of her really good while she stroked her clit and deep thoated me and I used the other hand to reach under and use two fingers way up her asshole. She loved it although later she said that dildo was way bigger than hers! Came in her mouth once, then covered up and fucked her in a variety pack of positions and then pulled out nice and easy,lubed up the johnson and her back door and slowly slid right up her butthole and fucked the daylights out of her ass.
Later, when I had recovered, I had her blow me until I came again and then cleaned up and left.
Now a young thin yummy, she ain't, but whn it comes to bang for the buck and a knowledgeable ride that was pretty far out there, she was pretty damned good. Terra_lynn2000@yahoo.com

Va Gent
02-11-03, 16:35
Trashman

I too have used that website escorts.com before with some good luck and bad luck. Sounds as if you got lucky. Tried to find Terralynn with no luck but i did send her an e-mail. I find I have better luck with ladies on TBD and ***, they cost more but worth it at times. I seem to be having a dry spell of sorts lately, meeting alot of dudds! I think I will revisit some ladies I like and have seen in the past.

LoveLOS
02-12-03, 08:37
Originally posted by trusgrbear
thnks for the info... i will give the olympic a try... but that is not close to camelots.. camelots is up on 19th & M. around that area, close to conn ave. i guess i'll have to go up that way and walk around a lil and see if i can find the one's you mentioned over top of camelots...

If you are looking for one to try... ck out international spa.. down on New York ave. it's on the second floor of the international building, across from the skylark strip club... i've had several good experiences down there.. one flat fee $160 for massage and fs.

Thanks for the info trusgrbear, Better than I have seen on DC boards...
International Spa - Ny and ?? cross street.

See my new DC post on Olympic.

LoveLOS

Globetrotter
02-13-03, 01:05
Well, got lucky on Rte 1 by 7-11 again today. Met the same strawberry blond SW I picked up about a month ago. Not a real looker but very decent BBBJTC. When I dropped her off, spotted another, this time a decent looking black chick who gave me the come on sign but I decided to pass for now. This was all around 2:00 PM. Drove by agaim around 6:30 PM, spotted one other but real ugly type so just left.

When I was with my SW friend earlier, she told me that there had been a lot of LE activity around there the previous night. Also said that there had been a lot of girls out but that was around 8:00 PM to 10:00 PM. For those of you who can be around there at that time, you might want to check it out.

traveler
02-13-03, 18:54
NOVA AMP Report: I went to the Kinja SPA today. It was really good. Had a girl named Dianna. Very good body, face was attractive. The foreplay was the best I've had in a long time. I thought she was going to pop my cork during the table shower. When I got back to the room from the Table Shower, I laid the $100 on the table. I laid down. She went over to the money, counted it, then said she would be right back. She took the money with her. At first, I was going to squawk. But decided not to. I've never, and I mean NEVER have I been ripped off in an AMP. Shortly she returned. Undressed completely and began the most sensual massage I have ever had, interspersed with some tongue licking here and there as well as some nice titty rubbing. Did the flip, she started licking on my cock like a big ole lollipop. Then she started sucking on my balls. I thought she was going to suck those bad boys right out of their sack. Then she started a BBBJ. Thought she was going to pop the cork again. Signaled her to stop and she then put the condom on. Motioned for her to get into the 69 positioned and she obeyed my every command. Nice pussy and ass. I would guess her age as mid to late 20s although I am not that great with asian ages. She had some stretch marks on her stomach indicating she has had a baby or babies. I fucked her while standing up with her sideways on the table. All in all, a really nice experience. When I first arrived and we walked into the table Shower room (big room) she asked if I was a cop. I showed up in my Colombo trench coat and it usually gets me the once over. I let her know right quick that I wasn't a cop. Joked with her by asking if she was one. She laughed and loosened up real quickly. When I was on my way out, another girl was in the hallway. Real friendly. Spoke up and said, "Me next time!" Her name was Sarah. Good location, can even park on the side with your vehicle out of sight. Highly Recommended. Traveler.

traveler
02-15-03, 16:27
Shit! Everybody must have dropped their mouses (mice?) and headed to the Kinja! Hasn't been a post since I gave my review. Traveler

TrusgrBear
02-15-03, 17:57
Hey Traveler: I read you post on Kinja.... very nice write up... can you please give me some help on locating this spot... where it is..actually located..... i would greatly appreciate it.... sounds like a spot i need to ck. out....

thnks.....

traveler
02-15-03, 21:21
Trusgrbear, Go south on Route 1 (Jeff Davis) towards woodbridge. Go about 6.4 miles after you pass where the Fairfax County Parkway connects with Route 1 near Ft. Belvoir. Turn right on to Occoquan Road. There is a CVS pharmacy there on the corner. Kinja is on the left hand side just up the street. It is right next to a Psychic Reader place. Very friendly place. Really nice inside. Table shower area was a little chilly but the room was toasty warm, especially once she starts the session! Better if you call ahead. To get the number, go to Yellow pages on yahoo, select Woodbridge as your location and type in Kinja Massage. Traveler.

Cooter Hunter
02-16-03, 00:06
Traveler, I will be traveling to Va next week, I will be coming down 95 south, does that take me anywhere near Kinja? If so could you please guide me on how to get there, what city is it in? If it is closer to 13 I could also take that route, please advise. Thanx.

Vagringo
02-16-03, 06:52
I also went to kinga and there wasa cute girl nameds sara kept insisting i was le that was a tad annoying so she finaly gave me aok massage and i laid the money down on counter f/s basic dc charges she was into doggy style . I feel the 6 amp in pw county are getting better but dc is always a sure thing .hours are like 11-11 --3 girls work there

traveler
02-16-03, 16:03
wlc142, Traveling South on I95, keep going South through Springfield towards Woodbridge. After you cross the Occoquan River, take the next exit. Not sure what that is. When you take the exit, go East towards Woodbridge. It is on Occoquan Road. Going east, it will be on your right hand side right before you get to Route 1. If you get to Route 1, (Jeff Davis Hwy) you've gone too far. Varingo, you said hours were like 11-11. Not sure if you meant the Kinja or those in DC. The Kinja was open at 9:30AM when I called. I was there by 10AM. I had the girl called Dianna. She was really good. As I was leaving, I saw a girl in the hallway that was really friendly. Her name was Sarah. She said, "Me next time" as I was leaving. Traveler.

traveler
02-16-03, 16:08
Wlc142, The address for the Kinja is 13408 Occoquan road. I think it is the second exit after you cross the Occoquan River. It is not 123. It is the next exit South of 123. Exit right, go East. You may have to do a U-turn because I think that exit takes you towards Lake Ridge. Traveler. I think the phone number is 703-497-1900. Traveler.

Vagringo
02-16-03, 20:35
ye it is kinja sara is the one with the wild hair probaly awig tight littel body she asked many times if i was le after so many times i said yes she laughed and gavebbbj then f/s

TrashMan
02-16-03, 21:41
Hey Va, that's an interesting twist. Next time I'm going to an AMP, or even an SW pickup, I'll answer no to the LE question and then after we get naked and get started a bit, when she pulls out the condom for the BJ, I'll tell her that I have to be honest with her and tell her I'm LE, but I won't bust her if she provides a really good BBBJTC and swallows!

traveler
02-17-03, 15:10
Trashman, Vagringo, Dianna gave me quite a bit of BBBJ before she slipped the condom on. Really got into it too. You know, the real good slurpy sounds. Maybe her and Sarah are in to the BBBJs. Varingo, how was Sarah? Dianna was really good. Thought about trying Sarah out next time. Your right, she does have "wild hair" but seemed really friendly. Traveler.

Vagringo
02-18-03, 13:36
haha no i just got tired of the le questions so i said it. but she was a firecracker i was trying to leave to watch the all astar game but she is a freindley girl. I brought a guy with me so he had the other one that maybe why. but she does like it doggy style .

DCLover
02-18-03, 16:30
Hello guys...

Could anyone please tell me the exact address and city of Kinja? I couldn't find it on the net as instructed by one of the members...
What are the total cost for a FS at those AMP these days ? and will they go back to your hotel room with you? Will those high class hotel such as Hilton, Sheraton...allow overnihgt company?
Thxs ...:)

lancearm
02-18-03, 17:42
Sircumalot,
Thanks for the bar info. I'll check it soon.

TrashMan
02-19-03, 10:19
DCLover,

man you need to just read a bit. The answer as to where that place is has been thoroughly discussed. I haven't been there, but I bet a bind man could find it.
Your second question re AMP girls to your hotel is just so dumb I cannot believe it. You just need to read a whole lot more and find a web site ( there's lots ) with a basic whoring dictionary.

AMP's provide Asian girls to massage you

Escorts go to your hotel room

See, isn't that easy?

DCLover
02-19-03, 17:13
Hahaaaa Trashman..that is why you are the senior member and I am the not so senior member.

Thxs. The reason I am asking if AMP in DC or VA go to your hotel because they do where I live...:)