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Random Tool
05-14-16, 08:30
I thought this place was bulletproof!
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/prostitution-sting-nets-4-arrests-at-willowbrook-spa/
Rocket Dork
05-14-16, 10:22
I went to this place. Door was locked. I called. Turns out the woman had car trouble and was not able to get to the shop. So I want to Anna's Sunny Spa on Dundee near 83.
Got what I wanted and left that shop (Don't really recommend, unless you like fat Chinese girls).
The legit woman calls and says she's at the store. Actually, she called during my massage and the other girl kept looking at my phone as I read the text.
So when I left the first place I called her back. Told her I just got a massage but I would come to see her anyway. We had a nice conversation about kids and schools and my wife and her husband.
I told her I was not looking for extras. In fact, I said I was looking for a legit place for my friends ("L" and "F") to work in. Which is true.
The legit woman said she bought the store because she was tired of always looking for a new job. She said no extras. I said that's good since I don't want extras.
Showed her my phone and pictures of the other women. Massage continues. Someone arrives and she tells him 20 minutes. Time to flip. I should add, I'm uncovered and remain uncovered after the flip. We're just having a nice conversation and I'm naked.
She starts to massage me and I get aroused (finally). She kisses me on the cheek and I put my arm around her and draw her close. She sort of shivers. I'm softly running my hand along her leg and she shivers again. I ask her to lie next to me and she kisses again. DFK.
Then she checks the lobby. The poor customer (one of you guys, I guess) has left. She locks the door and returns. I ask if she wants a massage. She does. Massage legs, stomach, pussy area. And she's loving it. I've pulled her pants down and she's gotten totally into it. Probably came three times.
Then she says, "please fuck me now". I get a condom from my pants pocket and we go to town. Total time: 2 hours, after an hour at the other place.
What's the message, the moral of the story? I say every woman wants sex if it happens naturally and is accompanied with friendship and a little fun, and yes a little naughtiness. I don't know what made her decide to do it, but I would say it was about an hour of foreplay, including a lot of conversation.
I sometimes think, actually I know, the less you try to get sex, the more likely it will happen.
The bad news is I can't reveal the name until she gives consent. As I said, shes a legit massage therapist.
Bob.I agree with you Bob. Treat the women with respect and you will be rewarded. Rocket Dork.
SouthSideRed
05-14-16, 12:24
I thought this place was bulletproof!
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/prostitution-sting-nets-4-arrests-at-willowbrook-spa/I like how they keep mentioning about that the girls were not licensed and maybe the business. That place has been there for years and now they come to the conclusion that nobody is licensed. Way to keep up on things. Also from the pictures they posted in the Sun Times, these girls did not look have bad compared to some of the others I have seen.
I thought this place was bulletproof!
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/prostitution-sting-nets-4-arrests-at-willowbrook-spa/Hasn; t lower left been busted before?
Made a visit after work because I was in the area. Mamasan was the only woman working at the time. Got the HH and the standard finish for standard tip. Good to have a reliable source not too far from me.
Assuming you don't consider FS should be included while paying $160 or more for an hour, you will have fun with both MPs. They are much younger than Asian MTs from apartments or Chinatown parlors.
If no FS, is it standard HE, or is there mic work?
UBeMyFriend99
05-14-16, 19:43
Hasn; t lower left been busted before?Man I thought this place would never get bothered either. Have they ever been busted before?
SaintChuck
05-14-16, 20:08
Man I thought this place would never get bothered either. Have they ever been busted before?https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwjFg_P349rMAhUCzoMKHeM-Av4QFggdMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Farticles.chicagotribune.com%2F2005-05-04%2Fnews%2F0505040201_1_villa-park-spas-arrests&usg=AFQjCNFMgxm8A-_z1xyEKW4cbi2u44r_aQ It looks like they had been busted back in 2005. If they made it 11 years without any problems that is a hell of a run. SaintChuck.
I have not be for 6 months or so because busy and other friends, but when I did go I have been told by two veterans MT the place was well taken care of. I actually almost gone recently but change my mind. I think it's vacant bar next door can't get place bought or leased caused the problem, either way it's bullshit it's been their for 10 years plus no problems it just politics.
I have not be for 6 months or so because busy and other friends, but when I did go I have been told by two veterans MT the place was well taken care of. I actually almost gone recently but change my mind. I think it's vacant bar next door can't get place bought or leased caused the problem, either way it's bullshit it's been their for 10 years plus no problems it just politics.It is always politics. Probably did not pay off the local politico's and from what I read, they did not have a current business license. Meanwhile two teenage boys die in a high speed crash in the same town. Maybe if the police were not so busy busting penis pumpers they could have stopped these two before they had a chance to drive into a tree. PRIORITIES.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwjFg_P349rMAhUCzoMKHeM-Av4QFggdMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Farticles.chicagotribune.com%2F2005-05-04%2Fnews%2F0505040201_1_villa-park-spas-arrests&usg=AFQjCNFMgxm8A-_z1xyEKW4cbi2u44r_aQ It looks like they had been busted back in 2005. If they made it 11 years without any problems that is a hell of a run. SaintChuck.I know the information in the article is outdated but with a name like Erotic Encounters how did they not expect to get busted.
MotorCity77
05-14-16, 20:51
I went to this place. Door was locked. I called. Turns out the woman had car trouble and was not able to get to the shop. So I want to Anna's Sunny Spa on Dundee near 83.
Got what I wanted and left that shop (Don't really recommend, unless you like fat Chinese girls).
The legit woman calls and says she's at the store. Actually, she called during my massage and the other girl kept looking at my phone as I read the text.
So when I left the first place I called her back. Told her I just got a massage but I would come to see her anyway. We had a nice conversation about kids and schools and my wife and her husband.
I told her I was not looking for extras. In fact, I said I was looking for a legit place for my friends ("L" and "F") to work in. Which is true.
The legit woman said she bought the store because she was tired of always looking for a new job. She said no extras. I said that's good since I don't want extras.
Showed her my phone and pictures of the other women. Massage continues. Someone arrives and she tells him 20 minutes. Time to flip. I should add, I'm uncovered and remain uncovered after the flip. We're just having a nice conversation and I'm naked.
She starts to massage me and I get aroused (finally). She kisses me on the cheek and I put my arm around her and draw her close. She sort of shivers. I'm softly running my hand along her leg and she shivers again. I ask her to lie next to me and she kisses again. DFK.
Then she checks the lobby. The poor customer (one of you guys, I guess) has left. She locks the door and returns. I ask if she wants a massage. She does. Massage legs, stomach, pussy area. And she's loving it. I've pulled her pants down and she's gotten totally into it. Probably came three times.
Then she says, "please fuck me now". I get a condom from my pants pocket and we go to town. Total time: 2 hours, after an hour at the other place.
What's the message, the moral of the story? I say every woman wants sex if it happens naturally and is accompanied with friendship and a little fun, and yes a little naughtiness. I don't know what made her decide to do it, but I would say it was about an hour of foreplay, including a lot of conversation.
I sometimes think, actually I know, the less you try to get sex, the more likely it will happen.
The bad news is I can't reveal the name until she gives consent. As I said, shes a legit massage therapist.
Bob.Your experience and approach continues to pay dividends, nice score.
George W. Bush
05-15-16, 09:59
It is always politics. Probably did not pay off the local politico's and from what I read, they did not have a current business license. Meanwhile two teenage boys die in a high speed crash in the same town. Maybe if the police were not so busy busting penis pumpers they could have stopped these two before they had a chance to drive into a tree. PRIORITIES.And yet they posted an ad at 8:06 this morning. Back in business already? (I've never been there.) http://illinois.backpage.com/BodyRubs/pine-tree-spa-630-323-3020/35708179.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwjFg_P349rMAhUCzoMKHeM-Av4QFggdMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Farticles.chicagotribune.com%2F2005-05-04%2Fnews%2F0505040201_1_villa-park-spas-arrests&usg=AFQjCNFMgxm8A-_z1xyEKW4cbi2u44r_aQ It looks like they had been busted back in 2005. If they made it 11 years without any problems that is a hell of a run. SaintChuck.The one looks really good for 46. As someone mentioned three where just no massage license no need to bring them down to jail and mugshots all over the place, heck aren't we always told their the victims? And That's what you do to them. Not a place I frequent but still I just wonder what happened, yeah A wild guess that someone on here might have been there when this happened, still probably shaking. Please PM me of what happened.
And yet they posted an ad at 8:06 this morning. Back in business already? (I've never been there.) http://illinois.backpage.com/BodyRubs/pine-tree-spa-630-323-3020/35708179.Sure, there are priorities. But in terms of a business license and massage license, why should they get a pass when the other businesses in the area (or competitors) do the work to get their legal requirements met? And taxes? How about the story in the Trib on Saturday about the Chinese guy who runs eight restaurants but decided to cheat us by running a cash business?
Our great system will fall apart quickly if we look the other way in terms of corruption and cheating. And yes, there are always tips and other items on the margin that go unreported. That's normal. But I don't want us to go the way of Brazil, Greece, etc.
My two ATFs work at places with business licenses and such. Never been busted. Never had a problem. And I always get plenty of great service. If the owners just use half their brain, we'll all be happy.
I'm not an expert in this process, but I've witnessed a couple things. First, ownership of many spas keeps arms-length from the manager and workers. So if something happens, they have plausible deniability. Just fire the worker. Second, they usually have 30 days before a hearing takes place. They are allowed to operate while waiting for the hearing. During that time period, they operate very carefully, clean house of any actual workers implicated. And update their business license. And, I've seen in other cases, the spa is sold to another owner. And yes, if they were arrears on any political donations, they catch up. Bob.
And yet they posted an ad at 8:06 this morning. Back in business already? (I've never been there.) http://illinois.backpage.com/BodyRubs/pine-tree-spa-630-323-3020/35708179.
Sure, there are priorities. But in terms of a business license and massage license, why should they get a pass when the other businesses in the area (or competitors) do the work to get their legal requirements met? And taxes? How about the story in the Trib on Saturday about the Chinese guy who runs eight restaurants but decided to cheat us by running a cash business?
Our great system will fall apart quickly if we look the other way in terms of corruption and cheating. And yes, there are always tips and other items on the margin that go unreported. That's normal. But I don't want us to go the way of Brazil, Greece, etc.
My two ATFs work at places with business licenses and such. Never been busted. Never had a problem. And I always get plenty of great service. If the owners just use half their brain, we'll all be happy.I would assume from your comments that your 2 ATF's maintain current up-to date individual State of Illinois Massage Licenses (which are required) and are not cheating the system with their taxes? Very good, congrats.
Also, just because a place has a "business license" doesn't mean it will not be busted. Most AMP's have business licenses and some even have stickers on the windows for donating to the police funds yet they still have been busted. Before Ace in Downers Grove was busted they had stickers on the entry door that they were members of the Fraternal Order of Police which they were given for donating.
Wow I was just there last Saturday. I love that place. So they arrested the 4 women but if there happened to be any clients there at the same time do they take them in too?
Wow I was just there last Saturday. I love that place. So they arrested the 4 women but if there happened to be any clients there at the same time do they take them in too?I would be very suprised if they arrested any of the clients. The only way this could happen would be if you were actually caught in the act, and you could even dispute that as just consensual. They would have to be able to prove payment for services occurred, and as most of us seem to pick up on fairly quickly, this is a cash only affair (no pun intended =P).
I would expect them to prod you a bit, probably gauging to see if your willing to confess to anything. And possibly use you as witness in the case.
Wow I was just there last Saturday. I love that place. So they arrested the 4 women but if there happened to be any clients there at the same time do they take them in too?I'm sure every AMP is going to be super cautious for a while unless you know the place very well. Probably best to just stick with your regulars and not branch out.
Wow I was just there last Saturday. I love that place. So they arrested the 4 women but if there happened to be any clients there at the same time do they take them in too?Holy smokes! I was just there last Monday, and one of my favorites too! Always FS, but this was the first time I actually got a full GFE. Too bad!
Wow I was just there last Saturday. I love that place. So they arrested the 4 women but if there happened to be any clients there at the same time do they take them in too?I heard from a reliable source that is on not having licenses.
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/body-rub-lithuanian-lady-708506485tree/35891220 You should give this one a try and then report back. SaintChuck.Saintchuck how was visit to Lithuanian lady body rub?
AllBiz1987
05-16-16, 19:07
This report comes with limited value as I've since seen Heather / Brooke has moved on to a solo act elsewhere in Chicago and then later in Indy, but I saw her Healthy in the loop a few months ago and was blown away. Total bombshell and got exactly what I went looking for.
Curious whether anyone has had a more recent experience there lately? My first visit (even longer ago than with Brooke) was with Meagan and was similarly positive though she's a different body type. Very into it.
Let me know if you've had any more recent experiences. Would like to head back soon but just trying to make sure it's still a good bet.
Biz.
Wirelessone
05-16-16, 19:49
Wow I was just there last Saturday. I love that place. So they arrested the 4 women but if there happened to be any clients there at the same time do they take them in too?Because there is a difference, a legal difference between being detained, being put in handcuffs, being arrested and being charged with a crime. So for example, the police arrested and assumption put handcuffs on the girl for prostitution. Once the police bust in and execute that arrest, then by extension any persons inside the establishment can be detained, detained and handcuffed or be detained, handcuffed and formally arrested, They can also determine that after detaining you and putting handcuffs on you for their safety whilst they conduct a search of said premises, elect to let you go with or without asking you questions. You answering or not answering those questions doesn't mean you will or won't be detained by being bought to police headquarters for further questioning, handucffed or not, nor have you been arrested but you were detained. All of, parts of or none of can happen once you or caught someplace where a criminal act has occurred, be it prositution, the dope spot or selling counterfeit Louis Vuitton at your garage sale. This is why you have to exercise your right to remain silent and stop any interviews by asking for a lawyer. Your statements made while being detained can lead to your being arrested and then formally charged with a crime. The moral of the story is always, shut your mouth.
It is always politics. Probably did not pay off the local politico's and from what I read, they did not have a current business license. Meanwhile two teenage boys die in a high speed crash in the same town. Maybe if the police were not so busy busting penis pumpers they could have stopped these two before they had a chance to drive into a tree. PRIORITIES.It's sort of politics More like feeding the machine of our big government's law enforcement. They have to justify their means by cracking down on "crime. ".
https://reason.com/blog/2016/05/16/homeland-security-helps-take-down-unlice
It's so comforting to know that the Department of Homeland Security has taken care of terrorist threats and now they can focus on human trafficking. Think about that come November. . .
Because there is a difference, a legal difference between being detained, being put in handcuffs, being arrested and being charged with a crime. So for example, the police arrested and assumption put handcuffs on the girl for prostitution. Once the police bust in and execute that arrest, then by extension any persons inside the establishment can be detained, detained and handcuffed or be detained, handcuffed and formally arrested, They can also determine that after detaining you and putting handcuffs on you for their safety whilst they conduct a search of said premises, elect to let you go with or without asking you questions. You answering or not answering those questions doesn't mean you will or won't be detained by being bought to police headquarters for further questioning, handucffed or not, nor have you been arrested but you were detained. All of, parts of or none of can happen once you or caught someplace where a criminal act has occurred, be it prositution, the dope spot or selling counterfeit Louis Vuitton at your garage sale. This is why you have to exercise your right to remain silent and stop any interviews by asking for a lawyer. Your statements made while being detained can lead to your being arrested and then formally charged with a crime. The moral of the story is always, shut your mouth.Couldn't agree more with this. There is literally nothing you can say that will benefit you in the long run.
And don't be fooled by the "good cop" routine. I got this several times, cop comes in, pretends to be acting in your best interest, then casually asks you what happened. Once they tell you that you have the right to remain silent, you would be wise to do so.
SaintChuck
05-17-16, 02:34
It's sort of politics More like feeding the machine of our big government's law enforcement. They have to justify their means by cracking down on "crime. ".
https://reason.com/blog/2016/05/16/homeland-security-helps-take-down-unlice
It's so comforting to know that the Department of Homeland Security has taken care of terrorist threats and now they can focus on human trafficking. Think about that come November. . .The politics of them busting certain AMP's really amazes me. About a month ago an AMP in St. Charles got busted for prostitution. It was well known that the place was HJ only, and they still got busted. People may not realize that St. Charles has a special police unit called ATM, yes it is really called ATM and it stands for Alcohol, Tobacco, Massage. This unit does compliance checks on the AMP's and tries to bust them. I think that this is morally wrong and extremely racist. The town has no problem selling the AMP's a business license and charging them a fingerprinting fee when they know damn well what goes on in these places. But they let them open anyway because it gives the ATM unit something to do and it generates revenue in fines when they bust the AMP's. They pick on the AMP's because they are easy prey. Most of the girls don't speak English and are illegal aliens, so they won't be able to get a high price attorney and fight the charges. Because the girls are in fear of being deported they aren't going to make a huge fuss either, they would rather go to court and pay the fine and be done with it. It is really a scumbag practice of going after the easiest prey. I would really like to know how many compliance checks LE does on Non-Asian massage places. I work and I pay taxes so I think it should be my right to go get a massage and a HJ and not have to worry that the massage police have closed down all of my local AMP's. SaintChuck.
I think it should be my right to go get a massage and a HJ and not have the massage police have closed down all of my local AMP's. SaintChuck.A Massage isn't a right in the Law.
A Massage HJ is illegal according to most local city / state standards.
Random Tool
05-17-16, 08:22
Saintchuck how was visit to Lithuanian lady body rub?I saw her a while ago, maybe 2 years. First visit was pretty good. FS was available without an upsell. I saw her again a few months later and it was less fun. More rules, less enthusiasm. Almost like she didn't remember seeing me previously. I haven't been back, but YMMV.
It's sort of politics More like feeding the machine of our big government's law enforcement. They have to justify their means by cracking down on "crime. ".
https://reason.com/blog/2016/05/16/homeland-security-helps-take-down-unlice
It's so comforting to know that the Department of Homeland Security has taken care of terrorist threats and now they can focus on human trafficking. Think about that come November. . .That was a good read. Thanks for posting. It just pisses me off that the gov't is busting these places under the guise of "Human Trafficking". Some of us have built relationships with these girls outside of the spa and we know they are not "trafficked". Meanwhile, people are getting gunned down every day.
Stop by about a week ago to a massage parlor latina in her late 20's met me at the front and lead to a room. Massage was decent didn't really tease but lot of talking. On the flip she said 5 minutes left and offered a menu for a HE looks where okay. Roaming was allowed over the clothes rate her ass 8 out of 10.
SouthSideRed
05-17-16, 18:26
Couldn't agree more with this. There is literally nothing you can say that will benefit you in the long run.
And don't be fooled by the "good cop" routine. I got this several times, cop comes in, pretends to be acting in your best interest, then casually asks you what happened. Once they tell you that you have the right to remain silent, you would be wise to do so.I also agree. I have been in some strip clubs when a complete stranger will sit down next to you and start a conversation about the girls. They always want to know how far they go and if take out is available. The answer is always that the girls are strictly legit and that there is no funny business going on.
I have been thinking about the arrests at Pine Tree and have several thoughts. There will be those that will disagree with me because they will claim they have had nothing but positive experiences at AMPs. So remember this is only my view. I have only been to one AMP in the past ten years or more and that was only to check it out for everyone else because it was in the area where I live. Frankly there were too pricey for me Decent legitimate massages are generally a lot cheaper. Add the cost of an HJ or FS, which are generally very overpriced and you're paying a lot for a few moments of pleasure on a narrow table. This is especially true when mamasan is 50+ and hasn't broken a smile in years. But let's say you are lucky enough to draw a young one that is decent looking, probably with boltons if she has anything up top. You are still paying a lot of money for a few moments of pleasure on a therapy table. Okay you want to tell me it is safer medically than street girls that have the possibility of serious diseases not to mention the dangers of the street. Okay, I won't argue with you on that point. Thank God you weren't at Pine Tree when the bust went down. This could happen anywhere. LEO is not illiterate. He can come here at any time and read about "happy endings". You just know LEO suspects any AMP is guilty unless proven innocent. The only thing keeping any of them in business is that LEO wants more than just girlie busts. Girls are a dime a dozen. There are thousands of Asians willing to come to the US to work even if they know how their services will be used. LEO wants it all and got it at Pine Tree including the fact they did not have a therapeutic massage license. This will also allow Willowbrook to shut it town and tell the owners to get lost as a nuisance business. So you mongers are paying a lot of money, not usually getting much for it and putting yourself at risk. Yes, I know this risk exists everywhere from SG's to Backpage and Craigslist. But if I'm going to take the risk for big money, I might as well try Backpage and get full service in a room. Yes, (I know the ad is often BS and the young 20's beauty is often a 40-year-old blimp. That's probably why I don't use Backpage either. I'm just simply offering my opinion, valueless as it might be on AMPs. At best, it seems like an awful lot of money to me based on mediocre service, based not only on my personal experience, but the comments of many others on this forum. But feel free to disagree with me and keep using them- it's your money. If there are exceptions to what I said, please educate me and others that peruse this forum for info.
I agree with your points to a certain degree. Everything we do, including normal everyday activities. Driving a car. Has risk. Who knows when an 18-wheeler with your name on it will hit you.
We can manage those risks and avoid stupid or dangerous behavior. This forum is invaluable for that.
The other part of my response goes toward what hobby activities you want. Hence, the forum categories.
Even at massage parlors there is great variety. Which means different folks can find what they want by selecting a place that they like. I enjoy a legit massage, for example. A two minute jackhammer HE and out the door early is not my cup of tea.
But if someone else wants that, great. Most friends I have met over the years came from legit shops, including foot massage. I establish a rapport and maintain contact information.
Then we meet offsite. Typically, that's three hours in a hotel room for no charge. These are real relationships and friendships and they include much more than sex.
I also prefer massage shops where one woman is working. In those settings, assuming you know the woman, the risk is low because all the variables are under control.
So in summary, I'm saying there are perfectly good ways to enjoy an AMP and to use it to find people you want to establish a relationship with. I'm not really interested in anonymous physical interaction. But. Hey - different strokes for different folks. Bob.
I have been thinking about the arrests at Pine Tree and have several thoughts. There will be those that will disagree with me because they will claim they have had nothing but positive experiences at AMPs. So remember this is only my view. I have only been to one AMP in the past ten years or more and that was only to check it out for everyone else because it was in the area where I live. Frankly there were too pricey for me Decent legitimate massages are generally a lot cheaper. Add the cost of an HJ or FS, which are generally very overpriced and you're paying a lot for a few moments of pleasure on a narrow table. This is especially true when mamasan is 50+ and hasn't broken a smile in years. But let's say you are lucky enough to draw a young one that is decent looking, probably with boltons if she has anything up top. You are still paying a lot of money for a few moments of pleasure on a therapy table. Okay you want to tell me it is safer medically than street girls that have the possibility of serious diseases not to mention the dangers of the street. Okay, I won't argue with you on that point. Thank God you weren't at Pine Tree when the bust went down. This could happen anywhere. LEO is not illiterate. He can come here at any time and read about "happy endings". You just know LEO suspects any AMP is guilty unless proven innocent. The only thing keeping any of them in business is that LEO wants more than just girlie busts. Girls are a dime a dozen. There are thousands of Asians willing to come to the US to work even if they know how their services will be used. LEO wants it all and got it at Pine Tree including the fact they did not have a therapeutic massage license. This will also allow Willowbrook to shut it town and tell the owners to get lost as a nuisance business. So you mongers are paying a lot of money, not usually getting much for it and putting yourself at risk. Yes, I know this risk exists everywhere from SG's to Backpage and Craigslist. But if I'm going to take the risk for big money, I might as well try Backpage and get full service in a room. Yes, (I know the ad is often BS and the young 20's beauty is often a 40-year-old blimp. That's probably why I don't use Backpage either. I'm just simply offering my opinion, valueless as it might be on AMPs. At best, it seems like an awful lot of money to me based on mediocre service, based not only on my personal experience, but the comments of many others on this forum. But feel free to disagree with me and keep using them- it's your money. If there are exceptions to what I said, please educate me and others that peruse this forum for info.
Adding the upgrades and the tables better to pay more money upfront and have a provider in a room with a bed. I went to a AMP one time and after all the upgrades my mood was killed. When my expectations are FS I find providers thru reviews with what I'm craving and in my budget for that visit. When I go for a massage if the price is low enough I will gamble a ending. If the price is on the higher end and a hottie I will check out reviews.
I have been thinking about the arrests at Pine Tree and have several thoughts. There will be those that will disagree with me because they will claim they have had nothing but positive experiences at AMPs. So remember this is only my view. I have only been to one AMP in the past ten years or more and that was only to check it out for everyone else because it was in the area where I live. Frankly there were too pricey for me Decent legitimate massages are generally a lot cheaper. Add the cost of an HJ or FS, which are generally very overpriced and you're paying a lot for a few moments of pleasure on a narrow table. This is especially true when mamasan is 50+ and hasn't broken a smile in years. But let's say you are lucky enough to draw a young one that is decent looking, probably with boltons if she has anything up top. You are still paying a lot of money for a few moments of pleasure on a therapy table. Okay you want to tell me it is safer medically than street girls that have the possibility of serious diseases not to mention the dangers of the street. Okay, I won't argue with you on that point. Thank God you weren't at Pine Tree when the bust went down. This could happen anywhere. LEO is not illiterate. He can come here at any time and read about "happy endings". You just know LEO suspects any AMP is guilty unless proven innocent. The only thing keeping any of them in business is that LEO wants more than just girlie busts. Girls are a dime a dozen. There are thousands of Asians willing to come to the US to work even if they know how their services will be used. LEO wants it all and got it at Pine Tree including the fact they did not have a therapeutic massage license. This will also allow Willowbrook to shut it town and tell the owners to get lost as a nuisance business. So you mongers are paying a lot of money, not usually getting much for it and putting yourself at risk. Yes, I know this risk exists everywhere from SG's to Backpage and Craigslist. But if I'm going to take the risk for big money, I might as well try Backpage and get full service in a room. Yes, (I know the ad is often BS and the young 20's beauty is often a 40-year-old blimp. That's probably why I don't use Backpage either. I'm just simply offering my opinion, valueless as it might be on AMPs. At best, it seems like an awful lot of money to me based on mediocre service, based not only on my personal experience, but the comments of many others on this forum. But feel free to disagree with me and keep using them- it's your money. If there are exceptions to what I said, please educate me and others that peruse this forum for info..
I have been thinking about the arrests at Pine Tree and have several thoughts. There will be those that will disagree with me because they will claim they have had nothing but positive experiences at AMPs. So remember this is only my view. I have only been to one AMP in the past ten years or more and that was only to check it out for everyone else because it was in the area where I live. Frankly there were too pricey for me Decent legitimate massages are generally a lot cheaper. Add the cost of an HJ or FS, which are generally very overpriced and you're paying a lot for a few moments of pleasure on a narrow table. This is especially true when mamasan is 50+ and hasn't broken a smile in years. But let's say you are lucky enough to draw a young one that is decent looking, probably with boltons if she has anything up top. You are still paying a lot of money for a few moments of pleasure on a therapy table. Okay you want to tell me it is safer medically than street girls that have the possibility of serious diseases not to mention the dangers of the street. Okay, I won't argue with you on that point. Thank God you weren't at Pine Tree when the bust went down. This could happen anywhere. LEO is not illiterate. He can come here at any time and read about "happy endings". You just know LEO suspects any AMP is guilty unless proven innocent. The only thing keeping any of them in business is that LEO wants more than just girlie busts. Girls are a dime a dozen. There are thousands of Asians willing to come to the US to work even if they know how their services will be used. LEO wants it all and got it at Pine Tree including the fact they did not have a therapeutic massage license. This will also allow Willowbrook to shut it town and tell the owners to get lost as a nuisance business. So you mongers are paying a lot of money, not usually getting much for it and putting yourself at risk. Yes, I know this risk exists everywhere from SG's to Backpage and Craigslist. But if I'm going to take the risk for big money, I might as well try Backpage and get full service in a room. Yes, (I know the ad is often BS and the young 20's beauty is often a 40-year-old blimp. That's probably why I don't use Backpage either. I'm just simply offering my opinion, valueless as it might be on AMPs. At best, it seems like an awful lot of money to me based on mediocre service, based not only on my personal experience, but the comments of many others on this forum. But feel free to disagree with me and keep using them- it's your money. If there are exceptions to what I said, please educate me and others that peruse this forum for info.To each his own, I think having full service with a provider in a hotel room or an AMP is a big risk medically for getting a std which is why I'm not looking for that, but not judging those who are. Life is short- so enjoy it while you can. I think getting a massage is not only relaxing, but beneficial for ones muscles and joints. A good one will make a difference long after the massage is over. AMP's are like other massage places- some gals give good massages, some don't. I prefer gals who give good ones because my muscles need it- but even if it's not the best it's still relaxing to have a gal massaging you. As customers we have no idea of the quality unless we try them out or read some reports. And we have no way of knowing who's licensed- which is one reason why I'm not a fan of backwalking. I don't like to hear my bones crunching.
I'd say there's a lot more risk going to meet a gal off craigslist at a hotel- risk of a sting operation, risk of getting robbed or killed- you never know, and by the time you can relax- time is probably up. And afterwards you might wonder if you caught something. That said, AMPs aren't always my first choice because I've had some so-so times there. I don't like not being able to pick the gal, especially if she's old and out of shape.
I respect your opinion- that's just my view.
ThrilHouse
05-19-16, 09:46
Haven't been there in couple months but had precious since gone Indy. Sava-big derrière very quiet had a lot of rules seemed mechanical she is In the pictures or very very close. 7/10 looks not my cup of tea.
Cece-petite was fun 8/10 looks. Massage was fairly decent.
That's about all dream there. Was trying to dream but line up uninspiring.
The busts are why I avoid suburban parlors. Chicago cops typically have more serious crimes to worry about than some schmuck getting a tugger at a massage parlor vs. The burbs where the cops don't have anything else to really worry about.
To each his own, I think having full service with a provider in a hotel room or an AMP is a big risk medically for getting a std which is why I'm not looking for that, but not judging those who are. Life is short- so enjoy it while you can. I think getting a massage is not only relaxing, but beneficial for ones muscles and joints. A good one will make a difference long after the massage is over. AMP's are like other massage places- some gals give good massages, some don't. I prefer gals who give good ones because my muscles need it- but even if it's not the best it's still relaxing to have a gal massaging you. As customers we have no idea of the quality unless we try them out or read some reports. And we have no way of knowing who's licensed- which is one reason why I'm not a fan of backwalking. I don't like to hear my bones crunching.
I'd say there's a lot more risk going to meet a gal off craigslist at a hotel- risk of a sting operation, risk of getting robbed or killed- you never know, and by the time you can relax- time is probably up. And afterwards you might wonder if you caught something. That said, AMPs aren't always my first choice because I've had some so-so times there. I don't like not being able to pick the gal, especially if she's old and out of shape.
I respect your opinion- that's just my view.There's a risk of getting an STD from any provider you meet. Getting a Massage professional or just getting oil splashed on is relaxing. Backwalking is Awesome. I haven't had it in a while. But it feels great to me.
Meeting any provider anywhere is a risk when you meet for the first time. If she's legit and shows you a nice time then you have nothing to worry about. I see indie massage therapists. There's a better chance of extra play as opposed to Spas.
SaintChuck
05-19-16, 11:27
The busts are why I avoid suburban parlors. Chicago cops typically have more serious crimes to worry about than some schmuck getting a tugger at a massage parlor vs. The burbs where the cops don't have anything else to really worry about.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0ahUKEwjo_uipt-bMAhVE6SYKHaieD9QQFggvMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Farticles.chicagotribune.com%2F2014-05-20%2Fnews%2Fchi-cop-placed-on-leave-in-connection-with-assault-at-massage-parlor-20140520_1_massage-parlor-desk-duty-police-powers&usg=AFQjCNEDMKyNHjEQ_A4nCcR-Qb4yPxGPuw It is a little naive to think that the AMP busts only happen in the burbs. In this article not only did the Chicago police bust the AMP, they were physically and verbally abusive to the woman. When I first started going to the AMP's out here in the burbs, I was worried too about getting busted. Now I could give a crap. If you read the police reports from all of the suburban AMP busts in the last few months, you will see that Uncle LEO sends in an undercover and then they bust the girls. They are after the girls and not the Mongers. SaintChuck.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0ahUKEwjo_uipt-bMAhVE6SYKHaieD9QQFggvMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Farticles.chicagotribune.com%2F2014-05-20%2Fnews%2Fchi-cop-placed-on-leave-in-connection-with-assault-at-massage-parlor-20140520_1_massage-parlor-desk-duty-police-powers&usg=AFQjCNEDMKyNHjEQ_A4nCcR-Qb4yPxGPuw It is a little naive to think that the AMP busts only happen in the burbs. In this article not only did the Chicago police bust the AMP, they were physically and verbally abusive to the woman. When I first started going to the AMP's out here in the burbs, I was worried too about getting busted. Now I could give a crap. If you read the police reports from all of the suburban AMP busts in the last few months, you will see that Uncle LEO sends in an undercover and then they bust the girls. They are after the girls and not the Mongers. SaintChuck.Zero extras were available at that place.
Zero extras were available at that place.You sure about that?
I'll leave it at that!
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0ahUKEwjo_uipt-bMAhVE6SYKHaieD9QQFggvMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Farticles.chicagotribune.com%2F2014-05-20%2Fnews%2Fchi-cop-placed-on-leave-in-connection-with-assault-at-massage-parlor-20140520_1_massage-parlor-desk-duty-police-powers&usg=AFQjCNEDMKyNHjEQ_A4nCcR-Qb4yPxGPuw It is a little naive to think that the AMP busts only happen in the burbs. In this article not only did the Chicago police bust the AMP, they were physically and verbally abusive to the woman. When I first started going to the AMP's out here in the burbs, I was worried too about getting busted. Now I could give a crap. If you read the police reports from all of the suburban AMP busts in the last few months, you will see that Uncle LEO sends in an undercover and then they bust the girls. They are after the girls and not the Mongers. SaintChuck.Chicago not only utilizes the police to close down AMP's but they are also now using city building inspectors to harass the owners. I personally know 2 owners who closed up shop and moved out of the city because of this.
The scenario is this, a building inspector enters a spa and finds numerous code violations which need to repaired. The inspector then writes up a citation to be given to the owner allowing a certain period of time with which to correct the violations. The owner then pays someone to make the repairs then calls the inspector who returns to check the repairs but then finds more violations and so writes up another citation and the process repeats itself. This can cost an owner a lot of money and after the one I knew had 3 separate citations within 1 year costing him over $15,000 in repairs decided to close and re-open elsewhere. The other owner had 2 citations 6 months apart that would have cost her over $20,000.
What a waste of resources.
Whisper2000
05-19-16, 22:59
Good legit massage. Can someone PM me if they've had success with more?
They used to have some very good Euro talent there, but I never got anything more than a massage from the non-asian girls, although it was early in my mongering days so who knows with the tricks I have now what could have been!
You sure about that?
I'll leave it at that!
Went for a massage 1. 5 hr for $ Hands down one of the best I have ever had. The first time I went it was legit, but it was so worth it I went again the next week. Very cautious but extra relief is available. Older but in shape and nice rack.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/bts/5593814432.html
Long time lurker and monger so I'll start helping with some info I have gathered.
ImSorryDave
05-24-16, 00:16
Anyone know of anyone offering Brazilian with HE closer to downtown? That's a combo that could help take the sting out of waxing.
Went for a massage 1. 5 hr for $ Hands down one of the best I have ever had. The first time I went it was legit, but it was so worth it I went again the next week. Very cautious but extra relief is available. Older but in shape and nice rack.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/bts/5593814432.html
Long time lurker and monger so I'll start helping with some info I have gathered.
Had a dream of seeing Angel. $80 for an hour. Only girl working in mornings, she mentioned some other girl in school comes in the afternoon. But wouldn't give any name or info, guessing she's younger being in school but I can only go in the mornings.
35 ish, skinny, face 5/10, acup.
Ok oily massage. Reach under, let me roam otc a bit. Flip, and she asked if I wanted massage "there". "of course!" No negotiation. She Lifted shirt and dropped skirt for me. Happy is probably the limit here. Just curtains for doors in the rooms. Left happy. Gave regular tip.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/thp/5601848117.html
Whats the deal with her I see her a lot would to try her but idk if she's legit.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/thp/5601848117.html
Whats the deal with her I see her a lot would to try her but idk if she's legit.She was reviewed on this site maybe a month ago or so. Not sure which thread. Not remembering details either. Just remember reading a review of her, cause she looks cute and I thought of taking a drive to see her so that is why I remember.
Anyone know of anyone offering Brazilian with HE closer to downtown? That's a combo that could help take the sting out of waxing.You mean like you want your junk waxed then a he?
https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/thp/5601848117.html
Whats the deal with her I see her a lot would to try her but idk if she's legit.Take one for the team and report back. She does seem hot!
Take one for the team and report back. She does seem hot!I hit her up once a while ago and she went crazy trying to book me even gave me her Facebook hahahah.
So il just wait for someone else to go for it.
FrankyCando
05-26-16, 18:32
Was in the area. On Waukegan rd. Called them up they told me they open til 10 pm. Pretty thing greeted and took my. 6 while thinking she was going to touch me.She led me to a room and wiated and a short stubby middle aged Mongolian greeted me. So so massage and amateurish he.
Gave her the usual tip bcs she seemed like she needed it.
Would not return even though she told me there are 4 other ladies bcs I don't want to insult her if she is there and I ask for other.
Georgiapeachs
05-26-16, 19:05
Healthy habits is where its at!! Savannah is an absolute gorgeous little hottie and a great masseuse and I seen a couple more cuties. Very clean and calming. Awesome management. Definitely will go back!
VRooomBada
05-26-16, 22:44
Original post was deleted but with respect to this one, tried it out a couple weeks back and was also given no extras. I also got the $65 rate but no frequent flyer card. Asked about table shower. They don't have one. Anyone else have any luck here?
Hey fellas, long time listener first time caller here.
There's a new spot that opened in the printers row portion of the south loop. They're currently advertising on CL. I haven't seen any reports on this place so I TOFTT.
House fee was $65 (though CL says $60). Taken to the room by a cute girl. Mid 20's I'd say. I didn't get her name. She told me to get undressed and gave me a towel, then she left the room.
I got undressed and covered my ass with the towel. She came in the room and immediately started to move the towel. For a split second this seemed like a good sign, but unfortunately she moved the towel just so she could drape it over my entire back and legs.
The massage itself was pretty good, but strictly legit. Not even the slightest hint of a tease. If my arm moved from the table so as to accidentally brush up against her it was moved right back. On the flip she massaged my neck then told me the hour was up and she was out the door.
The place is close to my apartment so I might go back if I'm looking for a legit massage, but I wouldn't expect anything else. That said, they were handing out cards showing how many times you've been there ($10 off your 5th massage or something like that). So maybe there's more to be had if you are a repeat customer.
Take one for the team and report back. She does seem hot!
I hit her up once a while ago and she went crazy trying to book me even gave me her Facebook hahahah.
So il just wait for someone else to go for it.Surprise! I found her on Youtube of all places. Looks like she put on a little bit of weight. Has a kid and as seem to be in love with her guy. That pic of hers in the ad is very attractive to me, but her recent pics not so much. Too bad.
Wouldn't you rather have extra play right on the first visit, rather than going there x amount of times hoping to get extra play? The ones I see I was able to get extra play right on the very first visit. But that's just me. Seems like a waste of time and especially money to me going to a massage therapist x number of times and hoping she'll give you extra play.
Wood Street
05-27-16, 02:33
Healthy habits is where its at!! Savannah is an absolute gorgeous little hottie and a great masseuse and I seen a couple more cuties. Very clean and calming. Awesome management. Definitely will go back!Are you Savannah? Where is this new parlor?
Wild Rider 80
05-27-16, 02:42
https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/thp/5601848117.html
Whats the deal with her I see her a lot would to try her but idk if she's legit.If you are courteous and patient you will be rewarded. YMMV but I had a very nice time at the end but when I dreamt no tit play, and massage was a softer type not deep tissue.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/5606654041.html Looks interesting. Might have to take the plunge but wondering if anyone has tested the waters yet.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/5606654041.html Looks interesting. Might have to take the plunge but wondering if anyone has tested the waters yet.I'm willing as it sounds pretty exciting. I texted the number on the website and got no response, ??
SaintChuck
05-27-16, 13:18
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/5606654041.html Looks interesting. Might have to take the plunge but wondering if anyone has tested the waters yet.If you check the EMP thread there is some discussion about this place, but it seems that nobody has taken the plunge yet. I checked out their website and it seems that all of the therapists are AA. SaintChuck.
Wouldn't you rather have extra play right on the first visit, rather than going there x amount of times hoping to get extra play? The ones I see I was able to get extra play right on the very first visit. But that's just me. Seems like a waste of time and especially money to me going to a massage therapist x number of times and hoping she'll give you extra play.I think the question is more of if the provider (especially an AMP) is concerned with newbies being LE. They may not play until they get to know you. But as you can read in some of the arrest reports sometimes LE uses this strategy as well.
In my own experience with this, you don't know what you are going to get when you go to a new spa. However, the more I have been mongering I've come to look for telltale signs that extra play is available.
Linda is a new girl at belmont, probably 35 year old Average face and body. Her English wasn't as bad as some, so some nice personality came out. Allowed roaming otc. A little utc near the end. I asked for BJ, but she kinda made a face said she needs to use saran wrap. I had a condom ready, but she didn't really seem too enthusiastic about the CBJ so went with standard HE.
JolietBurbGuy
05-27-16, 18:40
I think the question is more of if the provider (especially an AMP) is concerned with newbies being LE. They may not play until they get to know you. But as you can read in some of the arrest reports sometimes LE uses this strategy as well.
In my own experience with this, you don't know what you are going to get when you go to a new spa. However, the more I have been mongering I've come to look for telltale signs that extra play is available.If you don't mind sharing, what are some of those telltale signs? I'm sure newbies like myself would like to know.
I go for massages regularly without a he in mind. A few times, I've definitely gotten the impression the girl likes me and may be open to extras after a few more massages. Those girls tend to give amazing service down the road for very little money and get really into it. They will meet you after hours for extended sessions and do all sorts of crazy stuff. It can be really exciting getting a girl who is a little picky or not usually open to extras to open up for you. Definitely part of it for me is the chase I used to have with girls before I got married and had kids, to each their own I guess! That being said, I'm leaning towards Backpage girls as the massages have started to get boring.
Wouldn't you rather have extra play right on the first visit, rather than going there x amount of times hoping to get extra play? The ones I see I was able to get extra play right on the very first visit. But that's just me. Seems like a waste of time and especially money to me going to a massage therapist x number of times and hoping she'll give you extra play.
I think the question is more of if the provider (especially an AMP) is concerned with newbies being LE. They may not play until they get to know you. But as you can read in some of the arrest reports sometimes LE uses this strategy as well.
In my own experience with this, you don't know what you are going to get when you go to a new spa. However, the more I have been mongering I've come to look for telltale signs that extra play is available.One thing I've noted is that if an AMP offers extras, a fast way to let them know you're not LEO is to touch either their tits or their pussy. Either one is considered a 'sexual advance', and if cop does it, well, their case is toast. Had one place where I went for a first visit and got shut out completely. Second visit, the massage woman comes in, leans close to me, and I gave her ass a grab. Moved forward from there, things escalated, and ended up getting CBJ / CFS. Don't try this if there is any chance that the woman might not be offering extras, but if there are reports that they're available, this might get you in the short line for fun.
LongRanger99
05-28-16, 05:05
Are our Latina friends near Bryn Mawr and Kedzie still open or have they closed?
PussyPoker
05-28-16, 10:11
Healthy habits is where its at!! Savannah is an absolute gorgeous little hottie and a great masseuse and I seen a couple more cuties. Very clean and calming. Awesome management. Definitely will go back! QUOTE].
Seems like an ad for massage. Same day as the Chicago post they posted in Grand Rapids, Mi.
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SaintChuck
05-28-16, 13:38
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/gorgeous-asian-theripists-here-to-full-service-you/16637191 I saw this ad on BP and I couldn't stop laughing. I hope that this was just an error on their part due to a lack of understanding what certain English terms really mean, and not just all out stupidity. Either way, I bet they are busy today. SaintChuck.
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/gorgeous-asian-theripists-here-to-full-service-you/16637191 I saw this ad on BP and I couldn't stop laughing. I hope that this was just an error on their part due to a lack of understanding what certain English terms really mean, and not just all out stupidity. Either way, I bet they are busy today. SaintChuck.And I've been meaning to check that place out! Now I'll have to give it some time to let it die down over there.
WhiteSox2005
05-28-16, 16:07
If you check the EMP thread there is some discussion about this place, but it seems that nobody has taken the plunge yet. I checked out their website and it seems that all of the therapists are AA. SaintChuck.I went there a week ago. Had a lot of fun. Her name was Friday. She was White, mid 40's. Not sure if anything else is available besides a Bath and a massage.
I'm going to check them out again today. There are 3-4 girls there. They book fast.
Happy Hunting.
Be safe.
WhiteSox2005
05-28-16, 19:41
Had a mid 20's am. Her name was Bella. Nice and cute. Great ts. Pretty good massage. . 7 at the door. Spent a little over an hour. Had a lot of fun.
I think the question is more of if the provider (especially an AMP) is concerned with newbies being LE. They may not play until they get to know you. But as you can read in some of the arrest reports sometimes LE uses this strategy as well.
In my own experience with this, you don't know what you are going to get when you go to a new spa. However, the more I have been mongering I've come to look for telltale signs that extra play is available.I'm not a Massage Spa Fan. I see Indie Massage Therapists that work out of their homes. There's a better chance that an Indie Therapist is willing to offer Extra Play as opposed to a Spa. The Indies I've seen I was able to get Extra Play right on the first visit.
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05-29-16, 09:54
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DMichaels69
05-29-16, 12:41
Go ahead and post. Its ok.
I agree with Ron M. For me it's both incall and outcall. There are some masseuses who are very UTR. I know therapists that briefly put up a vague / anonymous ad once a month. As an example, I once responded to an ad and set up an appointment. When she finally sent me the address, it turned out to be one of my regular masseuses with a different email address.
I've seen member reports on UTR Indies that include names, privately shared photos, partial phone numbers and geographic locations down to the street with neighboring landmarks. Very uncool. There are reasons some Indie therapists fly UTR, please don't ruin it for them or the rest of us. Especially the good ones.
I'm hesitant to post reports on some Indie Massage Therapists because of members who are less than discreet with their postings. Some content belongs in PMs, not reports.
I realize I'm a relative newbie here, but that's just my 0. 02 worth.
I go for massages regularly without a he in mind. A few times, I've definitely gotten the impression the girl likes me and may be open to extras after a few more massages. Those girls tend to give amazing service down the road for very little money and get really into it. They will meet you after hours for extended sessions and do all sorts of crazy stuff. It can be really exciting getting a girl who is a little picky or not usually open to extras to open up for you. Definitely part of it for me is the chase I used to have with girls before I got married and had kids, to each their own I guess! That being said, I'm leaning towards Backpage girls as the massages have started to get boring.I know the places to visit to get the service I want. Basic to full menu. But part of the "hunt", at least for me, is finding those providers who require a little work. Many times I've invested the time (and money) in multiple visits to get that extra service. And, like you said, when reach that point it can be amazing. It can be tedious and expensive but when you reach that point it makes it all worth it. Just my 2 cents.
Head First
05-29-16, 15:59
Wouldn't you rather have extra play right on the first visit, rather than going there x amount of times hoping to get extra play? The ones I see I was able to get extra play right on the very first visit. But that's just me. Seems like a waste of time and especially money to me going to a massage therapist x number of times and hoping she'll give you extra play.Yes it'd be nice if every time we walked into a shop the girl would smile and ask HJ, BJ, or all of the above, but that's not the real world. It IS a waste of time and money, a huge waste! And that's why this forum is so valuable.
Also the variety factor comes into play. Some of us get bored banging the same pussy over and over, don't you? Variety is the spice of life. And it can lead to some adventures too.
Yesterday I checked out Aleda. Had heard there was some new talent there. Got buzzed in only to be told by the mama that both girls are busy, you want me? No thanks. Then she showed me the door. Headed over to a different brand new shop and found a long lost friend.
Then there's also the good girl turned bad girl thing. When if the time comes, it makes it all the more rewarding. Just read some of Bob521's reports. He's turned a celibate monk into a loving partner again. I once read a book titled The Sale Begins With The First No. Persistence, Perseverance, and Patience pays off. He hit the Motherlode.
Long story short we all don't hit home runs every time up to bat and that's Ok. But till we do it's important generous guys like yourself continue to pass out your wisdom.
Thanks.
Has anybody had any experiences with these girls? Particularly with the first one?
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/re_lax3129782652/26174782
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/full-body-rubs-by-nice-latinas/32263290
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/inooutcall-therapeutic-massage-by-nelya-ukrainian-massage-therapist-chicago-downtown/22731322
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/kims-therapeutic-massage/33141773
Yes it'd be nice if every time we walked into a shop the girl would smile and ask HJ, BJ, or all of the above, but that's not the real world. It IS a waste of time and money, a huge waste! And that's why this forum is so valuable.
Also the variety factor comes into play. Some of us get bored banging the same pussy over and over, don't you? Variety is the spice of life. And it can lead to some adventures too.
Long story short we all don't hit home runs every time up to bat and that's Ok. But till we do it's important generous guys like yourself continue to pass out your wisdom.
Thanks.I knew that the Massage Therapists I went to see played on the first visit. So I played and had fun.
Boring seeing the same girl over and over? I see a few different girls every few weeks. I see my ATF and suburban ATF on alternate weeks. Although the sessions do get predictable I find it still fun. There's only so much you can do (within her limitations) with a provider, right?
Hitting Home Runs in every at bat is possible. As long as you make sure you know what a provider is offering and it's within your Home Run Zone.
Ratherbshootin
05-30-16, 08:13
Hit it up about a week ago on a Sunday, got Yuki. Nice looking and younger. I wanted a hard massage and sure got that she spent a lot of time on the table really working the back. Used her knees even to grind out some kinks. A really good massage. Did some teasing and on the flip negotiated the usual for a HE added another 20 for her to shuck the uniform. She only dropped the top and would only allow touching and at that jumped back too many times. Finish was nice as she took time and wasn't jack hammering it. I checked the clock and was there for 70 minutes. I might go again but would pay for dropping the top as it was a waste. Funny that was one of the first places I ever went years ago when the Christy Yamagouuchi look a like ran that place.
Hit it up about a week ago on a Sunday, got Yuki. Nice looking and younger. I wanted a hard massage and sure got that she spent a lot of time on the table really working the back. Used her knees even to grind out some kinks. A really good massage. Did some teasing and on the flip negotiated the usual for a HE added another 20 for her to shuck the uniform. She only dropped the top and would only allow touching and at that jumped back too many times. Finish was nice as she took time and wasn't jack hammering it. I checked the clock and was there for 70 minutes. I might go again but would pay for dropping the top as it was a waste. Funny that was one of the first places I ever went years ago when the Christy Yamagouuchi look a like ran that place.I'm almost tempted to check this place out. I live close by in Wrigleyville.
Hit it up about a week ago on a Sunday, got Yuki. Nice looking and younger. I wanted a hard massage and sure got that she spent a lot of time on the table really working the back. Used her knees even to grind out some kinks. A really good massage. Did some teasing and on the flip negotiated the usual for a HE added another 20 for her to shuck the uniform. She only dropped the top and would only allow touching and at that jumped back too many times. Finish was nice as she took time and wasn't jack hammering it. I checked the clock and was there for 70 minutes. I might go again but would pay for dropping the top as it was a waste. Funny that was one of the first places I ever went years ago when the Christy Yamagouuchi look a like ran that place.Years ago? Wait, are we talking about the same place? Belmont Spa only opened this year. Was it open as another spa at that location before?
DMichaels69
05-30-16, 13:02
Ron, go for it and let us know!
I'm almost tempted to check this place out. I live close by in Wrigleyville.
Ratherbshootin
05-30-16, 13:55
Years ago? Wait, are we talking about the same place? Belmont Spa only opened this year. Was it open as another spa at that location before?Same location different name. My guess would be that was back in the late 90's.
Has anybody had any experiences with these girls? Particularly with the first one?
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/re_lax3129782652/26174782
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/full-body-rubs-by-nice-latinas/32263290
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/inooutcall-therapeutic-massage-by-nelya-ukrainian-massage-therapist-chicago-downtown/22731322
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/kims-therapeutic-massage/33141773I'm pretty sure Kim (last link) is or used to be a dude. Saw her once a couple years ago and had an eerie feeling as soon as the massage started.
Wirelessone
05-30-16, 22:44
Years ago? Wait, are we talking about the same place? Belmont Spa only opened this year. Was it open as another spa at that location before?When the colon cleansing deal didn't take off, she found that taking her clothes off bought the boys in. This would have been in the 2000's but she has moved on. Personally, it seems the most you can get at Belmont is a HE and a decent massage. I'm only in Chicago for the weekends only so I have reconnected with Cici who used to ply her trade at Mercy Accupressure. I was seeing some UTR's courtesy of you find gentlemen but the last 2 leads I got aren't around most weekends. Cici has to do for now but I think she has ben in the biz for too long, it happens kinda like Lisa from Senina, they get too many dick's and service suffers.
I'm pretty sure Kim (last link) is or used to be a dude. Saw her once a couple years ago and had an eerie feeling as soon as the massage started.Yeah, I heard through the grapevine the same thing about he / she.
UBeMyFriend99
05-31-16, 09:31
I knew that the Massage Therapists I went to see played on the first visit. So I played and had fun.
Boring seeing the same girl over and over? I see a few different girls every few weeks. I see my ATF and suburban ATF on alternate weeks. Although the sessions do get predictable I find it still fun. There's only so much you can do (within her limitations) with a provider, right?
Hitting Home Runs in every at bat is possible. As long as you make sure you know what a provider is offering and it's within your Home Run Zone.I visited 3 places this week and stuck out at all. The last one told me next time HE. She wasn't cute but gave a hell of a massage so I left at least relaxed. Another told me on the phone that the person I inquired about would be there and when I arrived a few minutes later she said "she not work today". So I gave the only person working a try and nada. I should say I was trying to expand my horizons and try new places but all 3 where strike outs. Now that PT is closed (my usual) I am a little leery of where to go. Any suggestions for a great place that is a sure deal please tell. I never go any further than a BJ though. Don't need nor want FS. If you would prefer to be discreet please inbox me.
Thanks all,
UBE.
DuderWalter
05-31-16, 09:59
Wouldn't you rather have extra play right on the first visit, rather than going there x amount of times hoping to get extra play? The ones I see I was able to get extra play right on the very first visit. But that's just me. Seems like a waste of time and especially money to me going to a massage therapist x number of times and hoping she'll give you extra play.Good question. I have a few that do a few things extra for me that they don't do for too many others. I like that. Of course this comes from a few more extra trips and a few extra tips but once established it makes it a damn good time and a hell of a slot for "the rotation".
I visited 3 places this week and stuck out at all. The last one told me next time HE. She wasn't cute but gave a hell of a massage so I left at least relaxed. Another told me on the phone that the person I inquired about would be there and when I arrived a few minutes later she said "she not work today". So I gave the only person working a try and nada. I should say I was trying to expand my horizons and try new places but all 3 where strike outs. Now that PT is closed (my usual) I am a little leery of where to go. Any suggestions for a great place that is a sure deal please tell. I never go any further than a BJ though. Don't need nor want FS. If you would prefer to be discreet please inbox me.
Thanks all,
UBE.Maybe you should post where you went.
Good question. I have a few that do a few things extra for me that they don't do for too many others. I like that. Of course this comes from a few more extra trips and a few extra tips but once established it makes it a damn good time and a hell of a slot for "the rotation".If I find out a massage therapist doesn't offer extra play on the first visit I don't see her. I'm not going to keep seeing a massage therapist a thousand times hoping for extra play. Plenty of other massage therapists that offer extra play after a massage.
DMichaels69
05-31-16, 13:33
Extra time and extra tips yield good results for all if they choose to do that.
Good question. I have a few that do a few things extra for me that they don't do for too many others. I like that. Of course this comes from a few more extra trips and a few extra tips but once established it makes it a damn good time and a hell of a slot for "the rotation".
MrShowtime
05-31-16, 14:21
Has anybody had any experiences with these girls? Particularly with the first one?
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/re_lax3129782652/26174782
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/full-body-rubs-by-nice-latinas/32263290
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/inooutcall-therapeutic-massage-by-nelya-ukrainian-massage-therapist-chicago-downtown/22731322
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/kims-therapeutic-massage/33141773I've seen Kim twice. Both times "she" gave a great massage. 1st time I left happy, 2nd time not so much. I couldn't really tell if she is actually a he, but I think so. Still didn't bother me either way. YMMV.
I don't think I've gone to a place and left with anything less than a HJ in a decade. And I think I've got about a 50-70% average for getting the girl to blow me. I don't think its that difficult. Don't go to place that look like they really want to be neighborhood salons. And be pretty cool with the girl and youll always get a least jerked off. I do. Then if things seem cool you can get sucked too. Its really not that difficult. This isn't dating. Its pretty simpley based on some normal market rules. Don't be an asshole. Undetstand that services cost something. And the girl can figure out what they want to charge, and you can pay it. Youll have better chances to get a blow job if you keep yourself in shape, and shave your balls and trim your Bush so it looks like the kind of dick that isn't going to be a chore for her to blow.
I visited 3 places this week and stuck out at all. The last one told me next time HE. She wasn't cute but gave a hell of a massage so I left at least relaxed. Another told me on the phone that the person I inquired about would be there and when I arrived a few minutes later she said "she not work today". So I gave the only person working a try and nada. I should say I was trying to expand my horizons and try new places but all 3 where strike outs. Now that PT is closed (my usual) I am a little leery of where to go. Any suggestions for a great place that is a sure deal please tell. I never go any further than a BJ though. Don't need nor want FS. If you would prefer to be discreet please inbox me.
Thanks all,
UBE.
WretchedBliss
05-31-16, 22:17
Needed a little massage after a long bike ride. Went to Relax Spa on Ashland. Paid the house fee and got an MT that was on the bigger side. Her massage was really good! She took care of my lower back and legs, which really needed it. Right before the flip she liked teasing me over the boys and everywhere with light touches. On the flip was about to start an he but asked for a BJ. She was down with it. It was okay. A bit mechanical. Gave her the standard and was on my way.
I've been to Pine Tree Spa about 10 times. It's not bad at all. The shower room is a little small but that's about it. The masssage is good, I've received extras, and there's a Sauna. I'll return but anxious to try other places too.
SaintChuck
06-01-16, 01:34
I've been to Pine Tree Spa about 10 times. It's not bad at all. The shower room is a little small but that's about it. The masssage is good, I've received extras, and there's a Sauna. I'll return but anxious to try other places too.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=12&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiJ3IPpjIbNAhVLPD4KHcEmCnc4ChAWCCMwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chicagotribune.com%2Fsuburbs%2Fnaperville-sun%2Fcrime%2Fct-nvs-naperville-women-prostitution-charge-st-0515-20160514-story.html&usg=AFQjCNECxK5kNh81AZe_G_pZtYCUw5pYMg It will be very hard to return to Pine Tree, they got busted and they are closed. SaintChuck.
LongRanger99
06-01-16, 17:16
Has anybody had any experiences with these girls? Particularly with the first one?
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/re_lax3129782652/26174782
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/full-body-rubs-by-nice-latinas/32263290
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/inooutcall-therapeutic-massage-by-nelya-ukrainian-massage-therapist-chicago-downtown/22731322
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/kims-therapeutic-massage/33141773I have already submitted a report on 'http://chicago.backpage.com/Therapeu...tinas/32263290' so RTFF.
LongRanger99
06-01-16, 18:03
Latin Touch Spa.
W. Irving Park Rd & Keeler, Chicago, IL.
Magic Spa.
W. Irving Park Rd. & and. Sheffield Ave. , Chicago, IL.
Moon Spa.
W. 23rd Pl. & Canal St. , Chicago, IL.
DanTheMan1289
06-01-16, 18:14
Needed a little massage after a long bike ride. Went to Relax Spa on Ashland. Paid the house fee and got an MT that was on the bigger side. Her massage was really good! She took care of my lower back and legs, which really needed it. Right before the flip she liked teasing me over the boys and everywhere with light touches. On the flip was about to start an he but asked for a BJ. She was down with it. It was okay. A bit mechanical. Gave her the standard and was on my way.Tried this place a few times. The talent is sub-par in my opinion looks wise. However, service is fantastic. Always get a table shower where she teases you during the table shower and strokes the rod a few times. Massage is typically good, and the first time they even gave me a free 4 hand massage (and finish). Never tried for more than standard HE, but good to know it's available.
I went there a week ago. Had a lot of fun. Her name was Friday. She was White, mid 40's. Not sure if anything else is available besides a Bath and a massage.
I'm going to check them out again today. There are 3-4 girls there. They book fast.
Happy Hunting.
Be safe.Visited the Turkish place today. Saw "Liz" (the long-haired brunette with hoop earrings on the web site). Pretty sure the photo is fake, but there's a resemblance.
Anyway, this is basically an hour-long table shower, with some massage in between the scrubby and watering down. Not really any hint of extras but an OK experience, something new anyway.
Might go back but would try someone else. Though, as always YMMV.
WhiteSox2005
06-01-16, 21:47
Visited the Turkish place today. Saw "Liz" (the long-haired brunette with hoop earrings on the web site). Pretty sure the photo is fake, but there's a resemblance.
Anyway, this is basically an hour-long table shower, with some massage in between the scrubby and watering down. Not really any hint of extras but an OK experience, something new anyway.
Might go back but would try someone else. Though, as always YMMV.Yep, went to see Friday again. She hint that she is trying to get her own establishment. Maybe better service after the hour bath and massage in the future. She don't mind washing every spot of your body. And washing again and again. Haha. She is a pretty MILF. Great personality. It just sad. This would be a great place for extras. Something new. Exactly!!
LongRanger99
06-01-16, 21:55
Are our Latina friends near Bryn Mawr and Kedzie still open or have they closed?Come on fellows. Do you mean to tell me no one has any information on our Latina friends on Bryn Mawr?
StanleyStankas
06-01-16, 22:11
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=12&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiJ3IPpjIbNAhVLPD4KHcEmCnc4ChAWCCMwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chicagotribune.com%2Fsuburbs%2Fnaperville-sun%2Fcrime%2Fct-nvs-naperville-women-prostitution-charge-st-0515-20160514-story.html&usg=AFQjCNECxK5kNh81AZe_G_pZtYCUw5pYMg It will be very hard to return to Pine Tree, they got busted and they are closed. SaintChuck.Who takes the time to drop the dime on this crap? I mean otherwise they wouldn't know. It's not like they are street walking! They are in a business setting and if this place is anything like the spas I have seen nothing can be seen from the front windows! I mean just ranting here really, but imo this kind of business harms no one! Not underage and these women were probably making decent coin! Meanwhile some detective gets a few happy moments prior to pulling out his badge! This sounds like some old married woman ratted out her own husband who she wasn't giving any 2! Just my. 02 worth!
It's a go. Standard stuff, a bit hesitant and limited OTC touch. Bonus: great massage.
Latin Touch Spa.
W. Irving Park Rd & Keeler, Chicago, IL.
Magic Spa.
W. Irving Park Rd. & and. Sheffield Ave. , Chicago, IL.
Moon Spa.
W. 23rd Pl. & Canal St. , Chicago, IL.
FrankyCando
06-02-16, 17:38
I'm pretty sure Kim (last link) is or used to be a dude. Saw her once a couple years ago and had an eerie feeling as soon as the massage started.Visited her a few weeks ago. Now that you mention it I would say possibly. Its a straight good massage and nothing else. That nothing else is why I say possibly.
Very shy when you do look at her she does kind of turn away but smart as well ...I was feeding her all kind of innuendos for extras but she put the stop and said no sensual message is given
Yep, went to see Friday again. She hint that she is trying to get her own establishment. Maybe better service after the hour bath and massage in the future. She don't mind washing every spot of your body. And washing again and again. Haha. She is a pretty MILF. Great personality. It just sad. This would be a great place for extras. Something new. Exactly!!All I have to say is I really enjoyed my visit. She said they are getting extremely busy, so book ahead of time.
-w.
Yep, went to see Friday again. She hint that she is trying to get her own establishment. Maybe better service after the hour bath and massage in the future. She don't mind washing every spot of your body. And washing again and again. Haha. She is a pretty MILF. Great personality. It just sad. This would be a great place for extras. Something new. Exactly!!Would be great if Extra Play was available. You'd be better off seeing an Indie (Indepedant) massage therapist for Extra Play. I highly doubt going here multiple times will get any Extra Play.
I always wondered about the other businesses that are in the same strip malls next to the massage parlors. You figure they see the windows are pretty much blocked out, doors always locked, a stream of guys coming and going so I am sure they have a suspicion. Makes me wonder if they are the ones calling to have it "checked" out because they don't want it next to their business. If the police report back that its legit they are happy, if not and there is a bust the businesses are like, I knew it.
Who takes the time to drop the dime on this crap? I mean otherwise they wouldn't know. It's not like they are street walking! They are in a business setting and if this place is anything like the spas I have seen nothing can be seen from the front windows! I mean just ranting here really, but imo this kind of business harms no one! Not underage and these women were probably making decent coin! Meanwhile some detective gets a few happy moments prior to pulling out his badge! This sounds like some old married woman ratted out her own husband who she wasn't giving any 2! Just my. 02 worth!
I always wondered about the other businesses that are in the same strip malls next to the massage parlors. You figure they see the windows are pretty much blocked out, doors always locked, a stream of guys coming and going so I am sure they have a suspicion. Makes me wonder if they are the ones calling to have it "checked" out because they don't want it next to their business. If the police report back that its legit they are happy, if not and there is a bust the businesses are like, I knew it.If you remember that place, the beauty salon next door did exactly that. Got them shut down. Gina, the owner, moved on.
That same location is now Yedam. Only suggestion I can make is use the back door. They will let you in the back if you ask them.
Bob.
SaintChuck
06-03-16, 18:45
I've seen Kim twice. Both times "she" gave a great massage. 1st time I left happy, 2nd time not so much. I couldn't really tell if she is actually a he, but I think so. Still didn't bother me either way. YMMV.You do realize that the Mongers here are trying to pick up chicks and not he / she's. SaintChuck.
I always wondered about the other businesses that are in the same strip malls next to the massage parlors. You figure they see the windows are pretty much blocked out, doors always locked, a stream of guys coming and going so I am sure they have a suspicion. Makes me wonder if they are the ones calling to have it "checked" out because they don't want it next to their business. If the police report back that its legit they are happy, if not and there is a bust the businesses are like, I knew it.There was a place in Sycamore, Spa One, that had a similar situation. They were in a semi-deserted strip mall, had plenty of guys going in and out of the place, and the businesses around them eventually called the local LEO's on them. It's kind of sad that the other businesses had to be so nosey about it, it wasn't like the guys were going over to their places and hassling them or there was any violent crime going on / etc. But they called, cops started paying attention, and busted a guy for a traffic violation who couldn't keep his mouth shut. Now, there's another place there, in the same store front, and my monger brethren out here tell me they're offering 'extras' too. That, in turn, has me wondering how long they're going to stay in business, and the cycle keeps on repeating.
You do realize that the Mongers here are trying to pick up chicks and not he / she's. SaintChuck.That's like the second recent post I've read about that involves guys reviewing guys wtf???? This website is for guys looking for women- lets keep it that way.
SaintChuck
06-03-16, 23:57
That's like the second recent post I've read about that involves guys reviewing guys wtf???? This website is for guys looking for women- lets keep it that way.I first noticed this crap last week in the Chicago / General Reports, Post#3955. It is a little disturbing and I hope that this crap stops. SaintChuck.
I first noticed this crap last week in the Chicago / General Reports, Post#3955. It is a little disturbing and I hope that this crap stops. SaintChuck.Yeah that's the one I saw too. I mean I'm not judging- to each his own, but I thought this forum was for finding real women. I'd rather not read about stuff like that on here. I damn near threw up on my computer. Hopefully that's the last of those posts.
SaintChuck
06-04-16, 10:09
There was a place in Sycamore, Spa One, that had a similar situation. They were in a semi-deserted strip mall, had plenty of guys going in and out of the place, and the businesses around them eventually called the local LEO's on them. It's kind of sad that the other businesses had to be so nosey about it, it wasn't like the guys were going over to their places and hassling them or there was any violent crime going on / etc. But they called, cops started paying attention, and busted a guy for a traffic violation who couldn't keep his mouth shut. Now, there's another place there, in the same store front, and my monger brethren out here tell me they're offering 'extras' too. That, in turn, has me wondering how long they're going to stay in business, and the cycle keeps on repeating.I remember reading those articles last summer when Spa One got busted. From what I remember it was their location that was the major problem. Probably not the greatest idea opening an AMP that is basically in the high school parking lot. Castlerae you seem to know that area well, then you know that there is another AMP in Sycamore that has a better location and isn't so visible, and they don't get messed with. Some of these AMP owners need to use some common sense when they open these places, in regards to location. Last summer I saw ad's on BP for an AMP in South Elgin so I took a ride over there and for the life of me I couldn't find the place. I was sitting at the 7-11 wondering where in the hell could this AMP be. I am very familiar with the area but couldn't find the place, so in a last ditch effort I drove behind the strip mall and sure as shit it was there. I was thinking this is a great location, I never even knew that there was any business in the back of the strip mall. It was the only business in the back of the strip mall. Anyway, right where you would park there was a chain link fence and a huge playground for a daycare. Needless to say, Uncle LEO wasn't very happy about having a FS AMP located 30 feet from the daycare play ground. You know how this story ends, the daycare is still in business. SaintChuck.
I always wondered about the other businesses that are in the same strip malls next to the massage parlors. You figure they see the windows are pretty much blocked out, doors always locked, a stream of guys coming and going so I am sure they have a suspicion. Makes me wonder if they are the ones calling to have it "checked" out because they don't want it next to their business. If the police report back that its legit they are happy, if not and there is a bust the businesses are like, I knew it.Some useless, POS Mongers will call too if they get pissed at the level of service denied / supplied at a certain spot, or if they get pissed off at the girl too.
I've had a number of girls tell me this thru the years as the girls will sometimes get a phone call or a text from a PO'd Monger taunting her about how the spa is doing now after if it gets hit.
Some Mongers are pure horse sh at t, just like in regular society. Not that we are not regular society. Just sayin'.
Luke Appling
06-04-16, 11:35
My usual girl at my usual place was unavailable, so I needed to branch out.
I went to West River Spa at Grand and Racine because I've been there a few times before, and in the past the girls there have been pretty good looking and young and always reliable for a handshake.
The meeting starts promising. I'm met at the door by Nancy, who is a little older than I would have liked but with a really tight body in a cute short dress. Without getting too specific, I'll just say the the table shower including cleaning everything with a strong indication that more was to come during the massage.
She takes me back to the room where I'm left alone for a good 5-10 minutes (I almost fell asleep! Eventually there's a knock and the door and Nancy has been replaced by Linda, who is young and trim but dressed way too professionally for my liking. I ask her what happens to Nancy, and Linda tells me that Nancy only does the table showers. Linda proceeds to give me a great massage but with no hint of additional extras at all.
This was a totally weird experience. I don't mind getting just a massage, but after a table shower that was practically foreplay it was a bit of a surprise.
StanleyStankas
06-04-16, 12:07
Some useless, POS Mongers will call too if they get pissed at the level of service denied / supplied at a certain spot, or if they get pissed off at the girl too.
I've had a number of girls tell me this thru the years as the girls will sometimes get a phone call or a text from a PO'd Monger taunting her about how the spa is doing now after if it gets hit.
Some Mongers are pure horse sh at t, just like in regular society. Not that we are not regular society. Just sayin'.Hadn't thought or realized that but yeah I can see it now that you mentioned. It's like why doesn't the dude stay there, call uncle LEO and wait? Then say "oh I didn't get a hummer and I want my money back!" It's malicious to make that kind of call in-spite! If service wasn't up to expectations one takes one for the team, moves on and reports the intel here! But to contact the cops is really unbelievable! I had gotten pick pocketed by SW's in my car! So what was I to do? Nothing avoid the girl if approached again is all.
WretchedBliss
06-04-16, 15:24
Tried this place a few times. The talent is sub-par in my opinion looks wise. However, service is fantastic. Always get a table shower where she teases you during the table shower and strokes the rod a few times. Massage is typically good, and the first time they even gave me a free 4 hand massage (and finish). Never tried for more than standard HE, but good to know it's available.I should try the table shower next visit!
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/5619534299.html
Anyone try this place? United Salon is getting old. Just like the MT there.
I remember reading those articles last summer when Spa One got busted. From what I remember it was their location that was the major problem. Probably not the greatest idea opening an AMP that is basically in the high school parking lot. Castlerae you seem to know that area well, then you know that there is another AMP in Sycamore that has a better location and isn't so visible, and they don't get messed with. Some of these AMP owners need to use some common sense when they open these places, in regards to location. Last summer I saw ad's on BP for an AMP in South Elgin so I took a ride over there and for the life of me I couldn't find the place. I was sitting at the 7-11 wondering where in the hell could this AMP be. I am very familiar with the area but couldn't find the place, so in a last ditch effort I drove behind the strip mall and sure as shit it was there. I was thinking this is a great location, I never even knew that there was any business in the back of the strip mall. It was the only business in the back of the strip mall. Anyway, right where you would park there was a chain link fence and a huge playground for a daycare. Needless to say, Uncle LEO wasn't very happy about having a FS AMP located 30 feet from the daycare play ground. You know how this story ends, the daycare is still in business. SaintChuck.I've driven past the place a few times, but never bothered to stop. Several mongers report the maximum you can get is (maybe) a handshake, and the woman who works there is an older one too. One thing I had to hand to One Spa: for all their bad decision about location, they had some good talent and ran a decent, clean AMP. Place looked like it was cleaned at least twice a day, unlike the other AMP that got busted at the same time, which was a filthy dump. Oh well, I'm staying away and trying to figure out what to do about my need for Asian attention.
My usual girl at my usual place was unavailable, so I needed to branch out.
I went to West River Spa at Grand and Racine because I've been there a few times before, and in the past the girls there have been pretty good looking and young and always reliable for a handshake.
The meeting starts promising. I'm met at the door by Nancy, who is a little older than I would have liked but with a really tight body in a cute short dress. Without getting too specific, I'll just say the the table shower including cleaning everything with a strong indication that more was to come during the massage.
She takes me back to the room where I'm left alone for a good 5-10 minutes (I almost fell asleep! Eventually there's a knock and the door and Nancy has been replaced by Linda, who is young and trim but dressed way too professionally for my liking. I ask her what happens to Nancy, and Linda tells me that Nancy only does the table showers. Linda proceeds to give me a great massage but with no hint of additional extras at all.
This was a totally weird experience. I don't mind getting just a massage, but after a table shower that was practically foreplay it was a bit of a surprise.I've seen Nancy for massage. That is strange.
Haven't done many visits to massage parlors this year. Funds are tight. A little over a month ago I went by Mercy in Chinatown. The new location is bigger and cleaner than the old spot by the firehouse; definitely a legit feel. Opted for 1 hour, price was reasonable at. 55. The receptionist at first told me that a man would do my massage, but I asked if there were any women available. She said yes, but I'd have to wait. So after about a 20 minute wait an average-looking middle-aged woman came to do my massage. Her name was Jenny and she was nice and pleasant. Her massage was good and relaxing and included cupping (a first for me). Allowed some OTC roaming on her legs towards the end, but no hints of extras. She was professionally dressed so I knew she wouldn't be doing the deed, so I self-served while she played with my chest. But I did get an encouraging sign for future visits as I was getting dressed; Jenny grabbed my stick with my jeans on. So maybe I will try her again soon.
If you mean Sun Spa in Aurora on Eola Road, I know it is legit. A friend of mine (not "L", a different friend) works there and no extras. She's a nice person and a good masseuse. But completely legit. Bob.
I've driven past the place a few times, but never bothered to stop. Several mongers report the maximum you can get is (maybe) a handshake, and the woman who works there is an older one too. One thing I had to hand to One Spa: for all their bad decision about location, they had some good talent and ran a decent, clean AMP. Place looked like it was cleaned at least twice a day, unlike the other AMP that got busted at the same time, which was a filthy dump. Oh well, I'm staying away and trying to figure out what to do about my need for Asian attention.
SaintChuck
06-05-16, 01:12
If you mean Sun Spa in Aurora on Eola Road, I know it is legit. A friend of mine (not "L", a different friend) works there and no extras. She's a nice person and a good masseuse. But completely legit. Bob.These damn AMP owners need to come up with some new names. The Sun we are talking about is way out west in Sycamore. Not the Sun spa in Schaumburg and not the Sun spa in Morris. LOL. SaintChuck.
SaintChuck
06-05-16, 01:24
Some useless, POS Mongers will call too if they get pissed at the level of service denied / supplied at a certain spot, or if they get pissed off at the girl too.
I've had a number of girls tell me this thru the years as the girls will sometimes get a phone call or a text from a PO'd Monger taunting her about how the spa is doing now after if it gets hit.
Some Mongers are pure horse sh at t, just like in regular society. Not that we are not regular society. Just sayin'.
Hadn't thought or realized that but yeah I can see it now that you mentioned. It's like why doesn't the dude stay there, call uncle LEO and wait? Then say "oh I didn't get a hummer and I want my money back!" It's malicious to make that kind of call in-spite! If service wasn't up to expectations one takes one for the team, moves on and reports the intel here! But to contact the cops is really unbelievable! I had gotten pick pocketed by SW's in my car! So what was I to do? Nothing avoid the girl if approached again is all.I will do some digging and find the article and post it here. The article is from a few years back and it is about a massage parlor bust in Libertyville or Waukegan. This guy in his 60's filed a police report because he said that the AMP worker touched his privates. The woman got arrested and the case went to court. Anyway, it came out in court that the guy knew the AMP worker from visiting her at several other spa's. So basically something happened that day at the spa and he dropped a dime on her. The funny part about the story is when the judge found out about the guy frequenting AMP's, she totally called him out on it and made him look like an ass in court because the judge knew that the guy had ratted out the AMP worker over a price or service issue. I will find the article. SaintChuck.
. . And not the Sunny Spa in Oak Park, or the Sunny Spa in Chicago, or the Sun Spa in Glen Ellyn.
These damn AMP owners need to come up with some new names. The Sun we are talking about is way out west in Sycamore. Not the Sun spa in Schaumburg and not the Sun spa in Morris. LOL. SaintChuck.
SaintChuck
06-05-16, 01:54
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjFyZq0mJDNAhVG5SYKHW7lCVQQFgg4MAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fchicago.cbslocal.com%2F2013%2F01%2F18%2Fnw-suburban-spa-busted-again-for-prostitution%2F&usg=AFQjCNHOzByQBhw0C8EsNb_UhyVn8ut1Kg I found one of the links. It was the Dragon spa in Libertyville and they got busted twice in one month. The guy who was in his 60's ratted them out, obviously over prices or services. SaintChuck.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/5619534299.html
Anyone try this place? United Salon is getting old. Just like the MT there.I reviewed it. Not too old, butterface.
DMichaels69
06-05-16, 07:38
The SUN spa in Aurora is very close to me. I ended up getting a couple massages from a lady there who was filling in one weekend for the usual lady who worked there who was out of town. Absolutely no extras but a decent massage. When I went it was dead. I was the only customer the whole weekend. Its a small place too, only a couple massage rooms.
If you mean Sun Spa in Aurora on Eola Road, I know it is legit. A friend of mine (not "L", a different friend) works there and no extras. She's a nice person and a good masseuse. But completely legit. Bob.
If you mean Sun Spa in Aurora on Eola Road, I know it is legit. A friend of mine (not "L", a different friend) works there and no extras. She's a nice person and a good masseuse. But completely legit. Bob.As Saint Chuck said, the place we're talking about is in Sycamore. The last I heard, it's still run by a woman who is half a step from the retirement home who will (maybe) offer you a handshake if she knows you well enough. As indicated, my info is from local mongers who have visited a few times, I have not bothered to partake as it doesn't sound like an experience I'd enjoy.
Its weird. In January "L" did work there. I was with her almost every day for several hours a day. Maybe you met me! LOL. Bob.
The SUN spa in Aurora is very close to me. I ended up getting a couple massages from a lady there who was filling in one weekend for the usual lady who worked there who was out of town. Absolutely no extras but a decent massage. When I went it was dead. I was the only customer the whole weekend. Its a small place too, only a couple massage rooms.
DMichaels69
06-05-16, 23:02
I was at a Korean place and she figured out she wanted to charge me 140 or 150 for everything. I said no thanks and told her I had 100 and she graciously accepted my offer. You can wax or shave but its more basic than that. Be shower fresh or clean if you are going into a place and not having them do the shower. My regular ladies at the Chinese places I frequent tell me all the time they appreciate how clean I am. A lady I've known for years told me she gets guys with smelly butts so she has to get a hot towel to clean it before she starts. She told me she never says anything to them about why she is doing it.
I don't think I've gone to a place and left with anything less than a HJ in a decade. And I think I've got about a 50-70% average for getting the girl to blow me. I don't think its that difficult. Don't go to place that look like they really want to be neighborhood salons. And be pretty cool with the girl and youll always get a least jerked off. I do. Then if things seem cool you can get sucked too. Its really not that difficult. This isn't dating. Its pretty simpley based on some normal market rules. Don't be an asshole. Undetstand that services cost something. he And the girl can figure out what they want to charge, and you can pay it. Youll have better chances to get a blow job if you keep yourself in shape, and shave your balls and trim your Bush so it looks like the kind of dick that isn't going to be a chore for her to blow.
SaintChuck
06-05-16, 23:17
The SUN spa in Aurora is very close to me. I ended up getting a couple massages from a lady there who was filling in one weekend for the usual lady who worked there who was out of town. Absolutely no extras but a decent massage. When I went it was dead. I was the only customer the whole weekend. Its a small place too, only a couple massage rooms.
Its weird. In January "L" did work there. I was with her almost every day for several hours a day. Maybe you met me! LOL. Bob.I have often wondered how some of these AMP's that are legit stay in business. It is 2016 and with the cell phone technology a Monger can find out in minutes if an AMP is legit or not. If the AMP is legit I can't see them getting a ton of repeat customers. The other aspect of this is I can't believe that the girls would want to work at a legit AMP. The reason I say that is this. It seems that a lot of these Chinese women know each other from working together at other AMP's or living near each other in Chinatown. The woman who works at the legit AMP has to know that her friend who works at an AMP with extras makes a shit load more money. I am not even talking about BJ's or FS. The girl who just gives HJ's makes so much more money than her friend at the legit AMP. You would figure that after a while the woman at the legit place would just say, screw it I'll go give HJ's and make some cash. SaintChuck.
CafeRaceritali
06-05-16, 23:49
Who takes the time to drop the dime on this crap? I mean otherwise they wouldn't know. It's not like they are street walking! They are in a business setting and if this place is anything like the spas I have seen nothing can be seen from the front windows! I mean just ranting here really, but imo this kind of business harms no one! Not underage and these women were probably making decent coin! Meanwhile some detective gets a few happy moments prior to pulling out his badge! This sounds like some old married woman ratted out her own husband who she wasn't giving any 2! Just my. 02 worth!At the bottom of the story you can read what people had to say about this. I could not find one comment condemning these women. It's mostly people talking trash about the County police for wasting tax dollars on a victimless crime. And, oh yeah, the Department of Homeland Security was involved. Epic.
That's a great point. When "L" was in Iowa (long story) she worked in a shop where her coworker was bragging about the prices and doing FS all day. The other girl would make $500 a day and "L" would make $100. I have several friends who are 100% legit. To them it is a moral principle. They actually worry about being "bad". Other friends who do extras for people they know well. Finally those who are full FS and anything goes.
I must add, from a personal standpoint, its a fucking emotional roller-coaster. I was just planning to see "L" in Lombard and she tells me she's being sent to Madison Wisconsin. And this means I must re-arrange my visit to "F" in Aurora. So tomorrow, I drive from Long Grove to Aurora, see "F", then to Lombard where I'll take "L" to Madison, and get back home again. Wife thinks I'm in Chicago. I hate the fact that I really care about these women. I'm going to open my on shop and hire them all! Bob.
I have often wondered how some of these AMP's that are legit stay in business. It is 2016 and with the cell phone technology a Monger can find out in minutes if an AMP is legit or not. If the AMP is legit I can't see them getting a ton of repeat customers. The other aspect of this is I can't believe that the girls would want to work at a legit AMP. The reason I say that is this. It seems that a lot of these Chinese women know each other from working together at other AMP's or living near each other in Chinatown. The woman who works at the legit AMP has to know that her friend who works at an AMP with extras makes a shit load more money. I am not even talking about BJ's or FS. The girl who just gives HJ's makes so much more money than her friend at the legit AMP. You would figure that after a while the woman at the legit place would just say, screw it I'll go give HJ's and make some cash. SaintChuck.
SaintChuck
06-06-16, 01:27
That's a great point. When "L" was in Iowa (long story) she worked in a shop where her coworker was bragging about the prices and doing FS all day. The other girl would make $500 a day and "L" would make $100. I have several friends who are 100% legit. To them it is a moral principle. They actually worry about being "bad". Other friends who do extras for people they know well. Finally those who are full FS and anything goes.
I must add, from a personal standpoint, its a fucking emotional roller-coaster. I was just planning to see "L" in Lombard and she tells me she's being sent to Madison Wisconsin. And this means I must re-arrange my visit to "F" in Aurora. So tomorrow, I drive from Long Grove to Aurora, see "F", then to Lombard where I'll take "L" to Madison, and get back home again. Wife thinks I'm in Chicago. I hate the fact that I really care about these women. I'm going to open my on shop and hire them all! Bob.I can't wait for my first visit to 521 Spa. SaintChuck.
Bob, hats off to you. I really wonder how you could pull such things off time and again. Several months ago I made a stealth trip to Indiana to meet a GF when the SO was thinking I was at work in Chicago. Well as luck would have it I was speeding and I made a illegal right turn where red light cameras were at work. Guess what I get a letter at home with a link to the video. My heart skipped several beats. I started wondering how many other trails I must have left behind. Like iPass toll charges with date and time stamps, credit card transactions at doubtful places, etc. Etc. I was preparing myself for a bunch of lies but thankfully the SO didn't get suspicious and didn't start digging for details. On the other hand, I really wish you get to open your shop and employ all your girls.
That's a great point. When "L" was in Iowa (long story) she worked in a shop where her coworker was bragging about the prices and doing FS all day. The other girl would make $500 a day and "L" would make $100. I have several friends who are 100% legit. To them it is a moral principle. They actually worry about being "bad". Other friends who do extras for people they know well. Finally those who are full FS and anything goes.
I must add, from a personal standpoint, its a fucking emotional roller-coaster. I was just planning to see "L" in Lombard and she tells me she's being sent to Madison Wisconsin. And this means I must re-arrange my visit to "F" in Aurora. So tomorrow, I drive from Long Grove to Aurora, see "F", then to Lombard where I'll take "L" to Madison, and get back home again. Wife thinks I'm in Chicago. I hate the fact that I really care about these women. I'm going to open my on shop and hire them all! Bob.
That's a great point. When "L" was in Iowa (long story) she worked in a shop where her coworker was bragging about the prices and doing FS all day. The other girl would make $500 a day and "L" would make $100. I have several friends who are 100% legit. To them it is a moral principle. They actually worry about being "bad". Other friends who do extras for people they know well. Finally those who are full FS and anything goes.
I must add, from a personal standpoint, its a fucking emotional roller-coaster. I was just planning to see "L" in Lombard and she tells me she's being sent to Madison Wisconsin. And this means I must re-arrange my visit to "F" in Aurora. So tomorrow, I drive from Long Grove to Aurora, see "F", then to Lombard where I'll take "L" to Madison, and get back home again. Wife thinks I'm in Chicago. I hate the fact that I really care about these women. I'm going to open my on shop and hire them all! Bob.Open your shop Bob, I am sure you will have a reliable client list in no time!
Jameson290
06-06-16, 18:46
. . And not the Sunny Spa in Oak Park, or the Sunny Spa in Chicago, or the Sun Spa in Glen Ellyn.And on a semi related note, I randomly ventured into the Oak Park one last Saturday. Decent massage and a cute girl but no extras, only DIY. I was a tad disappointed but can't really complain since she was really sweet and gave a solid massage.
I was at a Korean place and she figured out she wanted to charge me 140 or 150 for everything. I said no thanks and told her I had 100 and she graciously accepted my offer. You can wax or shave but its more basic than that. Be shower fresh or clean if you are going into a place and not having them do the shower. My regular ladies at the Chinese places I frequent tell me all the time they appreciate how clean I am. A lady I've known for years told me she gets guys with smelly butts so she has to get a hot towel to clean it before she starts. She told me she never says anything to them about why she is doing it.You make a great point. During a recent trip to AX Paula and I had a discussion about showering before a session. She explained that I as a customer want a great experience. Blow job, ball suckling etc. She explained that she as a provider will be able to deliver much more pleasure when she does not have to experience undesirable odors. If you think about it, it is really just common sense and etiquette.
You make a great point. During a recent trip to AX Paula and I had a discussion about showering before a session. She explained that I as a customer want a great experience. Blow job, ball suckling etc. She explained that she as a provider will be able to deliver much more pleasure when she does not have to experience undesirable odors. If you think about it, it is really just common sense and etiquette.I always shower before meeting a provider. In fact one girl I see likes to shower with me. We play in the shower. It's awesome.
I got a red light camera ticket in Chicago and wife wanted to know about it. Every play trip I make has a backup legit story. But sometimes its tough. Yes. Heck of a day, today. I'm exhausted. Today, I said I was in Chicago not Aurora, Lombard, and Madison. It would definitely be worth it to open a shop where I could go without all the hassle. Sorry. It would be a legit shop. Bob.
Bob, hats off to you. I really wonder how you could pull such things off time and again. Several months ago I made a stealth trip to Indiana to meet a GF when the SO was thinking I was at work in Chicago. Well as luck would have it I was speeding and I made a illegal right turn where red light cameras were at work. Guess what I get a letter at home with a link to the video. My heart skipped several beats. I started wondering how many other trails I must have left behind. Like iPass toll charges with date and time stamps, credit card transactions at doubtful places, etc. Etc. I was preparing myself for a bunch of lies but thankfully the SO didn't get suspicious and didn't start digging for details. On the other hand, I really wish you get to open your shop and employ all your girls.
NiceChicaGaGuy
06-06-16, 23:00
Bob, hats off to you. I really wonder how you could pull such things off time and again. Several months ago I made a stealth trip to Indiana to meet a GF when the SO was thinking I was at work in Chicago. Well as luck would have it I was speeding and I made a illegal right turn where red light cameras were at work. Guess what I get a letter at home with a link to the video. My heart skipped several beats. I started wondering how many other trails I must have left behind. Like iPass toll charges with date and time stamps, credit card transactions at doubtful places, etc. Etc. I was preparing myself for a bunch of lies but thankfully the SO didn't get suspicious and didn't start digging for details. On the other hand, I really wish you get to open your shop and employ all your girls.I try to avoid any kind of paper trail. I take out small, easily explainable amounts from the local ATMs instead of one or two large amounts that would stick out like a sore thumb. I stay off the tollway unless there is good reason (most of my places are nearby anyway, unless I decide, every once in a blue moon, to visit Stone Park). I'm retired and my SO works, so my afternoons are generally open. And I find that Club O, 390, and Fantasy are much more accommodating in the afternoon anyway. My biggest concern is that my burner phone will be found out, but, since we have old phones all over the place, I can hide it more or less in plain sight.
I remember once, at Jimmy's, giving one of the girls my number. Somehow, in my state of minor intoxication, I gave her my SOs number instead. I had to run back the next day and come up with some carp about it being my old number and here was the right number. Fortunately, it worked; it was three years ago and neither of us have the same number anyway.
I got a red light camera ticket in Chicago and wife wanted to know about it. Every play trip I make has a backup legit story. But sometimes its tough. Yes. Heck of a day, today. I'm exhausted. Today, I said I was in Chicago not Aurora, Lombard, and Madison. It would definitely be worth it to open a shop where I could go without all the hassle. Sorry. It would be a legit shop. Bob.Well, not for Papason. However how would that work out for you with your complete stable under on roof?
I always shower before meeting a provider. In fact one girl I see likes to shower with me. We play in the shower. It's awesome.That is the excuse that the girls at AX use to get guys in the shower that try to avoid it for extra time. "Lets play. It will be fun". I will admit my first couple of time here I was temped to avoid the shower for a 30 minute session. However the girls never rushed me and after I realized I could go two rounds during the hour, I never do the 30 minute anymore.
That is the excuse that the girls at AX use to get guys in the shower that try to avoid it for extra time. "Lets play. It will be fun". I will admit my first couple of time here I was temped to avoid the shower for a 30 minute session. However the girls never rushed me and after I realized I could go two rounds during the hour, I never do the 30 minute anymore.This provider never rushes me. Showering never bites into the overall time of the session. In fact she told me she doesn't like being rushed when we meet. I didn't rush her. Well as far as I know.
You are correct. I can't put them under one roof. I might have to pick one ("L") and stick with it. I actually found a legit shop that might be for sale. Ironically, I started having sex with the owner. That will make negotiations tricky. Bob.
Well, not for Papason. However how would that work out for you with your complete stable under on roof?
Yes, there are several reasons. (1) As DMichaels, myself, and several others have mentioned, a frequent complaint is smelly guys. It's simply gross for them to deal with smelly ass. (2) Allows inspection of your junk for disease, etc. (3) Deterrent (limited) for LEO, and finally (4) time management. Often the MS does the TS to do the inspection and save time for the working girls. Bob.
That is the excuse that the girls at AX use to get guys in the shower that try to avoid it for extra time. "Lets play. It will be fun". I will admit my first couple of time here I was temped to avoid the shower for a 30 minute session. However the girls never rushed me and after I realized I could go two rounds during the hour, I never do the 30 minute anymore.
I also think the TS is a fun tie to get to know the girl and whether she's going to be fun during the massage. She certainly knows your clean, and if she's open to fun, she's going to give your dick a d nice soaping and se how you respond too. At worst she gets to act like she made a mistake and didn't meant to soap your dick, if the person acts weird. But if you're hard, and into it and she keeps soaping you, then you know you're going to get what you want.
Yes, there are several reasons. (1) As DMichaels, myself, and several others have mentioned, a frequent complaint is smelly guys. It's simply gross for them to deal with smelly ass. (2) Allows inspection of your junk for disease, etc. (3) Deterrent (limited) for LEO, and finally (4) time management. Often the MS does the TS to do the inspection and save time for the working girls. Bob.
That is the excuse that the girls at AX use to get guys in the shower that try to avoid it for extra time. "Lets play. It will be fun". I will admit my first couple of time here I was temped to avoid the shower for a 30 minute session. However the girls never rushed me and after I realized I could go two rounds during the hour, I never do the 30 minute anymore.30 Minute session Just wouldn't have got it done.
I remember fun in the shower wow those were the days. I was in Michigan a few years back. Stopped by a Thai Spa. She said Shower first.
I said sure. Not only a shower, loofah body wash. One pop in the shower, Then the massage, She was so short she could almost walk between my legs. And another pop during the massage, She was like a little Monkey on my back. Then back to the shower. She tried to get me to get another pop, I just couldn't get it done. (.
You actually gave your SOs phone number to the stripper? LOL. Thats hilarious. Lucky you had the good sense to catch your faux pas. Else, you ass might be under the fire.
I try to avoid any kind of paper trail. I take out small, easily explainable amounts from the local ATMs instead of one or two large amounts that would stick out like a sore thumb. I stay off the tollway unless there is good reason (most of my places are nearby anyway, unless I decide, every once in a blue moon, to visit Stone Park). I'm retired and my SO works, so my afternoons are generally open. And I find that Club O, 390, and Fantasy are much more accommodating in the afternoon anyway. My biggest concern is that my burner phone will be found out, but, since we have old phones all over the place, I can hide it more or less in plain sight.
I remember once, at Jimmy's, giving one of the girls my number. Somehow, in my state of minor intoxication, I gave her my SOs number instead. I had to run back the next day and come up with some carp about it being my old number and here was the right number. Fortunately, it worked; it was three years ago and neither of us have the same number anyway.
LongRanger99
06-08-16, 05:16
Relax Spa.
North Ashland.
Chicago, IL.
Decided to use forum information. Decided to try Relax Spa on North Ashland.
I went there tired and stressed. I left there energized and HAPPY. I will repeat.
HeadFirst80
06-08-16, 06:42
30 Minute session Just wouldn't have got it done.
I remember fun in the shower wow those were the days. I was in Michigan a few years back. Stopped by a Thai Spa. She said Shower first.
I said sure. Not only a shower, loofah body wash. One pop in the shower, Then the massage, She was so short she could almost walk between my legs. And another pop during the massage, She was like a little Monkey on my back. Then back to the shower. She tried to get me to get another pop, I just couldn't get it done. (.Where in Michigan? Can you PM me the whereabouts of this Thai spa?
Have not been to unwind off of archer since there was the girl there who spoke Greek (maybe 2 years), and now I know why. I don't mind if a girl is not the best looking if the massage is good, but both were subpar. She tries to get me to skip the shower, umm, I've just been hanging drywall for 5 hours, it may be a good idea. Crappy plastic table in the shower area, maybe I should have listened to her. On to the massage, she keeps whispering something in my ear, I just say medium massage only please. She keeps on trying to grab and twist my nipples and is trying to get me to turn over. Finally I get up and say we are done, no tip, and keep your water. Only bonus, had Connie's afterwards and that never let's me down.
StanCopier
06-10-16, 12:39
My last visit to Renew (just off 290) earlier this year was a bust, any new developments of at minimum HE's? Same for place on North Avenue, how are things there?
I don't want to come up short again, no time.
Here is my experiences so far in chicago.
Ruby spa on S archer. - Great service. The women are very attentive to you. I've never dreamt of FS but seems possible YMMV. I've had 3 dreams there. Twice with lucy and once with yoyo.
Lucy- Lucy gives a great massage. BBJ and CBJ is provided depending on what you like. Lots of play involved. HJ, DFK in between, breast play and ass play. Upon meeting her she wears jean shorts and a tank top but in Both dreams she changed into a silk lingerie. Great massage and great tongue techinque. Massage is $30-$60 and tip. During my first dream, tip was $120 2nd dream I was able to get it lowered to $80. If TS is provided one pop then another during massage.
Yoyo- Great lady. Super friendly. She didn't offer TS during my dream. Massage was above average but not great. She does a walking on your back technique, great at first then it just straight up hurts. CBJ was offered in the dream. Massage was $40 and tip was $100.
Both clean you up after the service and continues a massage for another 10-15 minutes. Then they get you water / green tea hug and kiss (on cheek). Both will walk you to the door to say bye. Lucy will slap your ass on the way out with a sexy laugh.
Here is my experiences so far in chicago.
Ruby spa on S archer. - Great service. The women are very attentive to you. I've never dreamt of FS but seems possible YMMV. I've had 3 dreams there. Twice with lucy and once with yoyo.
Lucy- Lucy gives a great massage. BBJ and CBJ is provided depending on what you like. Lots of play involved. HJ, DFK in between, breast play and ass play. Upon meeting her she wears jean shorts and a tank top but in Both dreams she changed into a silk lingerie. Great massage and great tongue techinque. Massage is $30-$60 and tip. During my first dream, tip was $120 2nd dream I was able to get it lowered to $80. If TS is provided one pop then another during massage.
Yoyo- Great lady. Super friendly. She didn't offer TS during my dream. Massage was above average but not great. She does a walking on your back technique, great at first then it just straight up hurts. CBJ was offered in the dream. Massage was $40 and tip was $100.
Both clean you up after the service and continues a massage for another 10-15 minutes. Then they get you water / green tea hug and kiss (on cheek). Both will walk you to the door to say bye. Lucy will slap your ass on the way out with a sexy laugh.You're tipping is too high. Should be in and out with FS for less than $175. Usually the door fee plus $100.
That is the excuse that the girls at AX use to get guys in the shower that try to avoid it for extra time. "Lets play. It will be fun". I will admit my first couple of time here I was temped to avoid the shower for a 30 minute session. However the girls never rushed me and after I realized I could go two rounds during the hour, I never do the 30 minute anymore.Who does this type of shower in the Chicago area?
You make a great point. During a recent trip to AX Paula and I had a discussion about showering before a session. She explained that I as a customer want a great experience. Blow job, ball suckling etc. She explained that she as a provider will be able to deliver much more pleasure when she does not have to experience undesirable odors. If you think about it, it is really just common sense and etiquette.Where is AX? I've been searching the thread and google but can't find anything specific. Feel free to PM me. Thanks!
OF Charlie
06-10-16, 19:39
Where is AX? I've been searching the thread and google but can't find anything specific. Feel free to PM me. Thanks!Read the Asian Apartment Girl thread. AX is discussed a lot. They have 4 locations, Oak Brook, Ohare, Skokie and they recently added Schaumburg.
AX = Asian Xclusive.
http://asianxclusive.net/gallery.php?g=13
Who does this type of shower in the Chicago area?Saw Vivian yesterday, Wow great table shower.
Where in Michigan? Can you PM me the whereabouts of this Thai spa?I stopped driving a 18 wheeler around 1998, But I would say Dearborn Mi. Ran a lot of secondary roads, Off of the interstate Hwy.
All hot fright for GM and Ford Motor.
I use to stop every time I got with in 30 Miles of it.
Wood Street
06-11-16, 14:31
I've been wanting to toftt on a new not reviewed CT AMP but I decided to visit Moon in CT instead. Wanted a sure thing and my last visit to a new spot (Sunflower) was disappointing. I have not been to Moon in about 9-12 months and wanted to see if the talent has changed. It hasnt and I ended up with the same girl. The taller square face therapist. I never asked her name but if you visit you will know who she is. She is very giggly and accommodating but the massage was not that great. Left happy but for. 85 spent I did not feel I got my moneys worth. The talent at Rubys seem to be the best in the CT area. Maybe I will return to Moon a year later but I doubt it.
I've been wanting to toftt on a new not reviewed CT AMP but I decided to visit Moon in CT instead. Wanted a sure thing and my last visit to a new spot (Sunflower) was disappointing. I have not been to Moon in about 9-12 months and wanted to see if the talent has changed. It hasnt and I ended up with the same girl. The taller square face therapist. I never asked her name but if you visit you will know who she is. She is very giggly and accommodating but the massage was not that great. Left happy but for. 85 spent I did not feel I got my moneys worth. The talent at Rubys seem to be the best in the CT area. Maybe I will return to Moon a year later but I doubt it.I found my self in Chinatown with time on my hands to, I never tried a AMP in Chinatown cause only heard bad things, apt girls are good, but just wanted good really massage with standard ending, well I reach to a couple of you on here with no luck, so about to go, then I see this post, and give it a try, what the F this horrible three 50 year olds two 40 , wants hand 60 mouth100 69 150 FS 200 ! I got massage and left she bitching you chose me I make no money, table shower imagine the the basement in the movie Saw, I can't judge but honestly worse time I can remember, I guess that's what happens when always looking for something new, Ruby spa stay away.
Member #5942
06-12-16, 16:44
For those who participate, there are two new spas. One is located in River Grove (Cumberland and Grand). It's a foot spa along with a full body massage. The other (Wellness Spa) has not opened yet. It is located in Oak Park on North Avenue just across from the US Bank parking lot. I haven't visited either, do not plan on visiting either but wanted to let my friends on this site know. If I still participated, I'd bet that standard is and will be available at both locations.
UBeMyFriend99
06-12-16, 16:46
I've been wanting to toftt on a new not reviewed CT AMP but I decided to visit Moon in CT instead. Wanted a sure thing and my last visit to a new spot (Sunflower) was disappointing. I have not been to Moon in about 9-12 months and wanted to see if the talent has changed. It hasnt and I ended up with the same girl. The taller square face therapist. I never asked her name but if you visit you will know who she is. She is very giggly and accommodating but the massage was not that great. Left happy but for. 85 spent I did not feel I got my moneys worth. The talent at Rubys seem to be the best in the CT area. Maybe I will return to Moon a year later but I doubt it.Yeah I know who you are talking about. By no means pretty but not the worst looking. She has done a little more than standard in the past for me and has some nice fat nips. But I only go there in a pinch. Nothing special.
UBeMyFriend99
06-12-16, 16:53
Here is my experiences so far in chicago.
Ruby spa on S archer. - Great service. The women are very attentive to you. I've never dreamt of FS but seems possible YMMV. I've had 3 dreams there. Twice with lucy and once with yoyo.
Lucy- Lucy gives a great massage. BBJ and CBJ is provided depending on what you like. Lots of play involved. HJ, DFK in between, breast play and ass play. Upon meeting her she wears jean shorts and a tank top but in Both dreams she changed into a silk lingerie. Great massage and great tongue techinque. Massage is $30-$60 and tip. During my first dream, tip was $120 2nd dream I was able to get it lowered to $80. If TS is provided one pop then another during massage.
Yoyo- Great lady. Super friendly. She didn't offer TS during my dream. Massage was above average but not great. She does a walking on your back technique, great at first then it just straight up hurts. CBJ was offered in the dream. Massage was $40 and tip was $100.
Both clean you up after the service and continues a massage for another 10-15 minutes. Then they get you water / green tea hug and kiss (on cheek). Both will walk you to the door to say bye. Lucy will slap your ass on the way out with a sexy laugh.DFK may be tempting but why would you do that if she is giving a BBBJ? That means she has given it to many others.
DFK may be tempting but why would you do that if she is giving a BBBJ? That means she has given it to many others.I DFK the girls I see. I know they see other guys. Doesn't bother me in the least.
I want to plan a visit to one of the 4 Asian x locations. Would anyone recommend a certain model that they have experienced?
Wood Street
06-12-16, 18:36
I found my self in Chinatown with time on my hands to, I never tried a AMP in Chinatown cause only heard bad things, apt girls are good, but just wanted good really massage with standard ending, well I reach to a couple of you on here with no luck, so about to go, then I see this post, and give it a try, what the F this horrible three 50 year olds two 40 , wants hand 60 mouth100 69 150 FS 200 ! I got massage and left she bitching you chose me I make no money, table shower imagine the the basement in the movie Saw, I can't judge but honestly worse time I can remember, I guess that's what happens when always looking for something new, Ruby spa stay away.The last time I was there was maybe about 5 months ago and went often before that. The lineup was usually younger and never saw a 50 yr old unless it was mamasan. They would sit around the front watching TV and would wear small skirts and low tops. Prices were never low but depending on the girl you can get them down if not just walk out. This place has been closed / opened / closed often. Not sure if legal issues or new owners. Each time the lineup has changed. Now that I hear its an old crowd I won't visit for a while. Some of the older guys here might not mind the older lineup if they have a decent menu.
I want to plan a visit to one of the 4 Asian x locations. Would anyone recommend a certain model that they have experienced?I've seen many of them, they're all good. Find one that looks like your type and enjoy.
So the other day I went to a legit place where I know the owner. Helping that day was another woman and the owner suggested I ask her for a massage. It a legit massage, but that's all I wanted. Just talked with the woman. Interesting life story, and that's why I'm posting. She's about 40 I guess. In China she was a lawyer. Here she works in a retail store and weekends in massage. She married an American guy and has been here 2 1/2 years. Speaks English well. Studies all the time. Very very smart person. Great conversation.
I know another woman, in China she was a doctor. Radiologist. Here, she co-owns a shop and is a Hospital Radiology tech. Equally smart. I've known teachers. Accountants. Buddhist disciples. College Students.
I guess I'm just saying there are some pretty interesting women out there. I always enjoy getting to know them. Always ask, and remember, their Chinese names and their hometown and background. In other words, meeting the person. Most of the time I converse in (caveman) Chinese. It's much more relaxing having a friendly conversation. When you are relaxed and she is relaxed, in a Zen sort of way, outcome is often pretty amazing. Bob.
Sam Singer
06-13-16, 01:38
DFK may be tempting but why would you do that if she is giving a BBBJ? That means she has given it to many others.If I am a vegetarian, would I hesitate to kiss a meat and potatoes woman? She better gargle to get out any meat particles. Then I will. :) Mouths have been to all sorts of places which I can not control
Perhaps you are talking about Franks and Beans? Bob.
If I am a vegetarian, would I hesitate to kiss a meat and potatoes woman? She better gargle to get out any meat particles. Then I will. :) Mouths have been to all sorts of places which I can not control
I guess I'm just saying there are some pretty interesting women out there. I always enjoy getting to know them. In other words, meeting the person. It's much more relaxing having a friendly conversation. When you are relaxed and she is relaxed, in a Zen sort of way, outcome is often pretty amazing. Bob.Bob I agree with you 1000 percent. These girls are just like any other non providing girl. My suburban ATF loves to talk. It's awesome. When we're done playing we just sit around and talk. Well she talks and I listen. We talked for over 30 minutes after our last meeting. Sometimes these girls just need someone to talk to.
Been looking on the threads for anything close to this so I thought I'd throw it out there to get some opinions. I told my GF how I used to go to AMP's; I love asian women in genteral, the great massage most provide but also I love the HE I can usually get. This turned her on bigtime. The idea of seeing me get a HE from an asian masseuse drives her crazy now. I don't have any interest in anything more (nor does she!) We're wondering if any of them would allow her to watch or if a couples massage (some seem to advertise this) is another option? We're not really that picky on location, we'd travel for this but we'd like to experience this!
Thanks!
Bob I agree with you 1000 percent. These girls are just like any other non providing girl. My suburban ATF loves to talk. It's awesome. When we're done playing we just sit around and talk. Well she talks and I listen. We talked for over 30 minutes after our last meeting. Sometimes these girls just need someone to talk to.Been just hanging around for many years. Some time I just go by to BS.
Lot of the girls cook, Some even like pizza, Really hot wings too.
One of the girls a few years back, I'm sure a lot of you already know.
Who I'm talking about, Girl From Sennia's use to Coke a Cola Chicken.
How about It Confucius? Remember the good old days?
I found my self in Chinatown with time on my hands to, I never tried a AMP in Chinatown cause only heard bad things, apt girls are good, but just wanted good really massage with standard ending, well I reach to a couple of you on here with no luck, so about to go, then I see this post, and give it a try, what the F this horrible three 50 year olds two 40 , wants hand 60 mouth100 69 150 FS 200 ! I got massage and left she bitching you chose me I make no money, table shower imagine the the basement in the movie Saw, I can't judge but honestly worse time I can remember, I guess that's what happens when always looking for something new, Ruby spa stay away.I can't imagine why anyone would stay away from Ruby's Spa. Got two really great girls. There.
WhiteSox2005
06-14-16, 05:07
Been going here on and off since they opened. It's been hit or miss lately. There was a new girl I seen today. She is only here for today. She will be back maybe this weekend. It was a ok massage. But, total GFE after the Massage. To bad she won't be sticking around. Did get her digits, haha. I was there over an hour. We showered together. And then a hug and kiss goodnight. Best experience I had there since Mila.
Maybe they will get more girls like her coming in.
Happy Hunting.
Bob I agree with you 1000 percent. These girls are just like any other non providing girl. My suburban ATF loves to talk. It's awesome. When we're done playing we just sit around and talk. Well she talks and I listen. We talked for over 30 minutes after our last meeting. Sometimes these girls just need someone to talk to.Very interesting guys. I've got 3 different providers I ve known for about 2 years. I didn't know if anyone else was friends with them like I am. All of them have cooked for me and we've eaten in the back room where they have the little kitchens set up. I have also brought them food I've made and shared with them, candy, ice cream etc. I've taken them shopping down the street and are truly friends with them. It might be hard for some of you to imagine, seeing as what they do for a living but, these girls believe they are doing us men a special service (which they are) because they won't do anything more than a HJ. Sure you can feel them up, rub their ass, but moraly they won't go any farther, so I find it kind of funny it seems they don't think they are doing anything wrong. Sure I know you can get full service at places but alot of the Chinese AMPs won't. Yes some just want friends to feel secure as many are alone in the US. I keep going back to mine because they give great massages, usually extra long, and the HE ings are excellent.
DaddyOne23
06-14-16, 11:14
Been going here on and off since they opened. It's been hit or miss lately. There was a new girl I seen today. She is only here for today. She will be back maybe this weekend. It was a ok massage. But, total GFE after the Massage. To bad she won't be sticking around. Did get her digits, haha. I was there over an hour. We showered together. And then a hug and kiss goodnight. Best experience I had there since Mila.
Maybe they will get more girls like her coming in.
Happy Hunting.I'm a fan of lt, I was there a few weeks ago with the visiting Russian valery and she was nice. I have to keep an eye out for her return. I haven't checked out the current crop since my atf retired last year. But there are a few of the younger one I may check out. If I do I will report.
Was your gal the AA that is new? (I forget the name).
WhiteSox2005
06-14-16, 11:28
I'm a fan of lt, I was there a few weeks ago with the visiting Russian valery and she was nice. I have to keep an eye out for her return. I haven't checked out the current crop since my atf retired last year. But there are a few of the younger one I may check out. If I do I will report.
Was your gal the AA that is new? (I forget the name).Yes. She was AA. She is a good one. She is only doing this for a short time. I hope they get more girls like her.
WhiteSox2005
06-14-16, 11:31
I'm a fan of lt, I was there a few weeks ago with the visiting Russian valery and she was nice. I have to keep an eye out for her return. I haven't checked out the current crop since my atf retired last year. But there are a few of the younger one I may check out. If I do I will report.
Was your gal the AA that is new? (I forget the name).I wonder what happened to Mandy. I figured she wouldn't stick around. It was to easy on the first visit. Haha.
ThrilHouse
06-14-16, 12:06
Hi long time reader lurker finally giving back into.
First visit end of April to green had visit no name masseuse but had the dental issue. I'm sure you guys know. Massage was good 7/10 and ending was standard no mention of tip In dreamed did standard rate. Looks 5. . 45 door.
Second visit last Friday got a very young masseuse with glasses not much to look at. No mention of tip again but had hard time with the scenery as it was not as nice as previous. I should of tried the Asians downtown that do a little bit more but when I called they were busy and didn't have time till late. Looks 4 service 7.
Have also visited Ny in loop not Asian but similar service and more enjoyable Along with other gal in same building. . 80 total.
Anybody have an idea on who does more than standard in area? Not looking full but at least French.
ThrilHouse
06-14-16, 12:24
For those who participate, there are two new spas. One is located in River Grove (Cumberland and Grand). It's a foot spa along with a full body massage. The other (Wellness Spa) has not opened yet. It is located in Oak Park on North Avenue just across from the US Bank parking lot. I haven't visited either, do not plan on visiting either but wanted to let my friends on this site know. If I still participated, I'd bet that standard is and will be available at both locations.No dice on river one. Also not ideal as LEO is across the street and always lurking by. If anything happens maybe repeat visits. I don't strike out so it wasn't an issue of trying. FYI LEO eats there quite a bit so they might be legit.
SaintChuck
06-14-16, 15:47
Hi long time reader lurker finally giving back into.
First visit end of April to green had visit no name masseuse but had the dental issue. I'm sure you guys know. Massage was good 7/10 and ending was standard no mention of tip In dreamed did standard rate. Looks 5. . 45 door.
Second visit last Friday got a very young masseuse with glasses not much to look at. No mention of tip again but had hard time with the scenery as it was not as nice as previous. I should of tried the Asians downtown that do a little bit more but when I called they were busy and didn't have time till late. Looks 4 service 7.
Have also visited Ny in loop not Asian but similar service and more enjoyable Along with other gal in same building. . 80 total.
Anybody have an idea on who does more than standard in area? Not looking full but at least French.Which one of the Green Spa's are you referring to? SaintChuck.
DFK may be tempting but why would you do that if she is giving a BBBJ? That means she has given it to many others.Sure you may have a point but all girls regardless if they are providers or not. They can can be gfs, or wives, or what not. They all have done it at some point in their life, (DFK+BBBJ) so who are we to penalize them for that.
The reverse is equally true. Yesterday, about 20 minutes of DATY with my friend. Then followed up with DFK which she had no issues with. For the record, I would not partake in DATY after BBFSCIP. Bob.
Sure you may have a point but all girls regardless if they are providers or not. They can can be gfs, or wives, or what not. They all have done it at some point in their life, (DFK+BBBJ) so who are we to penalize them for that.
So found a good place in the burbs. Korean, a bit pricey as far as the door fees, but everything is on the table with the three girls I've seen so far. Seniors can PM as literally all three girls asked that I don't post anything on "rubmap".
ThrilHouse
06-15-16, 10:35
Which one of the Green Spa's are you referring to? SaintChuck.West loop. Any recommendations around this area for more than handshake? Already tried the other American spa but only standard available.
I also gave them a try. Strictly legit.
Hey fellas, long time listener first time caller here.
There's a new spot that opened in the printers row portion of the south loop. They're currently advertising on CL. I haven't seen any reports on this place so I TOFTT.
House fee was $65 (though CL says $60). Taken to the room by a cute girl. Mid 20's I'd say. I didn't get her name. She told me to get undressed and gave me a towel, then she left the room.
I got undressed and covered my ass with the towel. She came in the room and immediately started to move the towel. For a split second this seemed like a good sign, but unfortunately she moved the towel just so she could drape it over my entire back and legs.
The massage itself was pretty good, but strictly legit. Not even the slightest hint of a tease. If my arm moved from the table so as to accidentally brush up against her it was moved right back. On the flip she massaged my neck then told me the hour was up and she was out the door.
The place is close to my apartment so I might go back if I'm looking for a legit massage, but I wouldn't expect anything else. That said, they were handing out cards showing how many times you've been there ($10 off your 5th massage or something like that). So maybe there's more to be had if you are a repeat customer.
KittyElectro
06-15-16, 16:19
So, I've been searching the thread for info on the following AMPs:
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/best-massage/37049268
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/a-must-click-under-new-management-best-in-town-roselle-golf/34438112
Best Massage on W Wise rd and Healing Power Therapy on Roselle. All of the reports I can find are months if not years old. Has anyone been recently? What's on the menu? Whom should I see?
DMichaels69
06-15-16, 17:15
I have not been to HP in a long time but if she is still there see Cici. She is an older fairly attractive lady.
So, I've been searching the thread for info on the following AMPs:
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/best-massage/37049268
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/a-must-click-under-new-management-best-in-town-roselle-golf/34438112
Best Massage on W Wise rd and Healing Power Therapy on Roselle. All of the reports I can find are months if not years old. Has anyone been recently? What's on the menu? Whom should I see?
SaintChuck
06-15-16, 18:19
So, I've been searching the thread for info on the following AMPs:
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/best-massage/37049268
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/a-must-click-under-new-management-best-in-town-roselle-golf/34438112
Best Massage on W Wise rd and Healing Power Therapy on Roselle. All of the reports I can find are months if not years old. Has anyone been recently? What's on the menu? Whom should I see?The first link is for that dump JJ Massage on Wise Rd. I was there about a year ago and there were no extras to be had and the building had some kind of plumbing issue because the place stunk of sulphur. Also not a great location because it is next door to a day care. I have a friend that I have known for 20 years and he lives in Schaumburg, he is the one who got me into the hobby. He told me that he never even goes to the Schaumburg AMP's anymore because he was tired of pissing away money and getting no extras. SaintChuck.
KittyElectro
06-15-16, 18:33
I have not been to HP in a long time but if she is still there see Cici. She is an older fairly attractive lady.Hmm. Rubmaps has a report with Cici from last month. I may try that.
KittyElectro
06-15-16, 18:36
The first link is for that dump JJ Massage on Wise Rd. I was there about a year ago and there were no extras to be had and the building had some kind of plumbing issue because the place stunk of sulphur. Also not a great location because it is next door to a day care. I have a friend that I have known for 20 years and he lives in Schaumburg, he is the one who got me into the hobby. He told me that he never even goes to the Schaumburg AMP's anymore because he was tired of pissing away money and getting no extras. SaintChuck.Hmm. That's a little disappointing. I was interested in those two because they're open later, and I'll be visiting after 9.
Can you recommend a GOOD (therapeutic w / happiness) outcaller who's willing to work late in the area?
Hmm. Rubmaps has a report with Cici from last month. I may try that.CiCi is still there. They have a new girl Laura from Virginia. Again, older but tight body and attractive face. HP did go through a management change from what I heard so standard HE last time I was there with over the clothes roaming.
West loop. Any recommendations around this area for more than handshake? Already tried the other American spa but only standard available.Both are in west loop. One on Randolph, one on Halsted. Which are you referring to? Got to be the one on Randolph.
Thencame Brnsn
06-16-16, 12:40
CiCi is still there. They have a new girl Laura from Virginia. Again, older but tight body and attractive face. HP did go through a management change from what I heard so standard HE last time I was there with over the clothes roaming.When she worked at a long defunct place on Cumberland she gave me my best "Asian" experience ever. Wish she could still do that at HP. Service there is ok but I like TS if I have a taste for Asian.
So, I've been searching the thread for info on the following AMPs:
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/best-massage/37049268
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/a-must-click-under-new-management-best-in-town-roselle-golf/34438112
Best Massage on W Wise rd and Healing Power Therapy on Roselle. All of the reports I can find are months if not years old. Has anyone been recently? What's on the menu? Whom should I see?I was at JJ in March. Her name was Lyn. No English, good jacking skills from above my head, leaning over my face with bare C,s to lick. Fun. JJ on wise.
When she worked at a long defunct place on Cumberland she gave me my best "Asian" experience ever. Wish she could still do that at HP. Service there is ok but I like TS if I have a taste for Asian.Ha! I lived there when I first got out of college! I heard of those places but never tried until later in life.
ThrilHouse
06-16-16, 15:37
Both are in west loop. One on Randolph, one on Halsted. Which are you referring to? Got to be the one on Randolph.Halstead didn't know of the other one as not mentioned much but might have see what's available there LOL.
KittyElectro
06-16-16, 16:06
When she worked at a long defunct place on Cumberland she gave me my best "Asian" experience ever. Wish she could still do that at HP. Service there is ok but I like TS if I have a taste for Asian.Do you have any else in the area you can recommend that's open later than 9? Or outcall? Asian, non-Asian, doesn't matter to me.
Hey, a favor to ask of my AMP-going brethren.
We've all seen it: after a session the MT re-folds the same towel you've had all over you during the warm-up, to get ready for the next monger.
I don't know about you, but for me it's a little like basketball: I always dribble before I shoot.
Please kindly suggest a fresh towel for the next guy.
This has been a public service announcement.
BB.
DMichaels69
06-16-16, 19:14
I always do. You would think that would be obvious for them to know to do that.
Hey, a favor to ask of my AMP-going brethren.
We've all seen it: after a session the MT re-folds the same towel you've had all over you during the warm-up, to get ready for the next monger.
I don't know about you, but for me it's a little like basketball: I always dribble before I shoot.
Please kindly suggest a fresh towel for the next guy.
This has been a public service announcement.
BB.
Hey, a favor to ask of my AMP-going brethren.
We've all seen it: after a session the MT re-folds the same towel you've had all over you during the warm-up, to get ready for the next monger.
I don't know about you, but for me it's a little like basketball: I always dribble before I shoot.
Please kindly suggest a fresh towel for the next guy.
This has been a public service announcement.
BB.I was at an AMP once, getting CFS with a 'hat' I'd brought myself. We went to change positions and the 'hat' stayed inside while I left. So, not wanting to try getting it back on (or whatever her reason was) she reaches under the table cover and pulls out another, while carefully laying mine aside. Did I mention that this one was not in the wrapper, and it wasn't rolled up but folded? I passed on further CFS and ended the session with a handshake. So remember, guys, the 'hat' you leave behind might become some less discriminating monger's 'party favour', LOL!
I always do. You would think that would be obvious for them to know to do that.You would think so.
Let's put an end to this. Thanks for doing your part.
Next up: the creepy feeling you get from wet flip-flops and bathrobe that lets you know there was another monger skeeting all over your ATF just minutes before you.
No, it's not that she's wet and ready for you because you turn her on, nor is it that she just happens to be gifted with a constant state of tropical readiness in her nether regions; it's from her last session.
Back on the horse and went to Belmont. The girls there range from older 40's to a really sexy girl who looks like she's lower 20's. Also speaks pretty good english. Got the older lady. Nice tits. Solid massage and standard finish. I have a feeling more is on the table. I'd recommend.
You would think so.
Let's put an end to this. Thanks for doing your part.
Next up: the creepy feeling you get from wet flip-flops and bathrobe that lets you know there was another monger skeeting all over your ATF just minutes before you.
No, it's not that she's wet and ready for you because you turn her on, nor is it that she just happens to be gifted with a constant state of tropical readiness in her nether regions; it's from her last session.A number of years ago I caught a case of athlete's foot from the wet floor of a table shower room. Didn't have it before I went, but by the time I got home my toes were itching like crazy. Next day I went to the doc and they gave me some ointment that cured it. Tokyo Spa in Rockford. Never went back to that place again.
Ever give some thought about the towel you are laying on face down?
DwayneJohnson
06-17-16, 00:01
A number of years ago I caught a case of athlete's foot from the wet floor of a table shower room. Didn't have it before I went, but by the time I got home my toes were itching like crazy. Next day I went to the doc and they gave me some ointment that cured it. Tokyo Spa in Rockford. Never went back to that place again.
Ever give some thought about the towel you are laying on face down?Athlete's foot is a skin fungus wouldn't show up that quickly. It typically takes at least several days to fester in order to grow and show symptoms. If fact its already contagious before it starts itching. In no way shape or form would EVER show up in a few hours from initial contact.
At Lux maybe a year ago the girl took my USED hat and WASHED it. That's the worst. At New Life in Mt Prospect, I brought 2 and used one. She asked to keep the extra. She took it out of the wrapper and put it in kleenex. So I always bring two or three hats, and show them to the girl. Bob.
I was at an AMP once, getting CFS with a 'hat' I'd brought myself. We went to change positions and the 'hat' stayed inside while I left. So, not wanting to try getting it back on (or whatever her reason was) she reaches under the table cover and pulls out another, while carefully laying mine aside. Did I mention that this one was not in the wrapper, and it wasn't rolled up but folded? I passed on further CFS and ended the session with a handshake. So remember, guys, the 'hat' you leave behind might become some less discriminating monger's 'party favour', LOL!
SaintChuck
06-17-16, 01:16
At Lux maybe a year ago the girl took my USED hat and WASHED it. That's the worst. At New Life in Mt Prospect, I brought 2 and used one. She asked to keep the extra. She took it out of the wrapper and put it in kleenex. So I always bring two or three hats, and show them to the girl. Bob.It is interesting how every place does things differently. Tonight I was at an AMP and I got a CBJ using a cover that I had brought. When I was leaving the woman gave it to me all wrapped in paper towels and told me to take it and get rid of it because she didn't want a used hat on the premises. This is just a total observation and I am going out on a limb here, but it is an observation that I have made. Back in 2015 when the place in Switzerland got busted it stated in the police report that officers confiscated several bags of evidence. I had no clue what in the hell that meant. Shortly after that bust I noticed that the girls at the other local AMP's changed procedure a bit. After you popped they would clean you up with kleenex tissue and then you would hear them cruise down the hall and quickly flush the jizz soaked kleenex. Then she would come back with a hot towel to clean off the oil and whatever else was left. I think that the girls in Switzerland had been throwing all of that kleenex into the garbage can's in the room and when they got busted Uncle LEO decided to take the trash as evidence. SaintChuck.
Chuck, that's absolutely true. At New Life she asked me to take the used hat along with both the used and new wrappers. She was paranoid about the MS finding out. Another woman at Lux a while ago (large-ish Japanese woman who later turned up at M2) used Saran wrap for her CBJ. Clearly, did not want condoms around. That particular time I did not have condoms. I always have condoms and viagra with me (LOL) when I go out. Hidden in a sock in my gym bag. For me a condom is the kind of incriminating evidence that would render me single pretty quickly. Bob.
It is interesting how every place does things differently. Tonight I was at an AMP and I got a CBJ using a cover that I had brought. When I was leaving the woman gave it to me all wrapped in paper towels and told me to take it and get rid of it because she didn't want a used hat on the premises. This is just a total observation and I am going out on a limb here, but it is an observation that I have made. Back in 2015 when the place in Switzerland got busted it stated in the police report that officers confiscated several bags of evidence. I had no clue what in the hell that meant. Shortly after that bust I noticed that the girls at the other local AMP's changed procedure a bit. After you popped they would clean you up with kleenex tissue and then you would hear them cruise down the hall and quickly flush the jizz soaked kleenex. Then she would come back with a hot towel to clean off the oil and whatever else was left. I think that the girls in Switzerland had been throwing all of that kleenex into the garbage can's in the room and when they got busted Uncle LEO decided to take the trash as evidence. SaintChuck.
Athlete's foot is a skin fungus wouldn't show up that quickly. It typically takes at least several days to fester in order to grow and show symptoms. If fact its already contagious before it starts itching. In no way shape or form would EVER show up in a few hours from initial contact.Had to be the place. That was over 10 years ago when I was finishing graduate school and I had been there the week before as well. I had no time for dating anyone and the girl offered me a small break on the price for FS as a very regular customer. I specifically remember I had been there the week before because I had just bought a new Harley on Friday and rode it out there on Sunday and was pissed that I couldn't ride it out there the following week because of rain so took the car. Back then I was not working out at any gym because I had no time and my apartment was spotless so I didn't catch it in those places. Had to be the place.
DMichaels69
06-17-16, 08:02
I never wear the grungy bathrobe. I did wear flip flops once. LOL.
You would think so.
Let's put an end to this. Thanks for doing your part.
Next up: the creepy feeling you get from wet flip-flops and bathrobe that lets you know there was another monger skeeting all over your ATF just minutes before you.
No, it's not that she's wet and ready for you because you turn her on, nor is it that she just happens to be gifted with a constant state of tropical readiness in her nether regions; it's from her last session.
I never wear the grungy bathrobe. I did wear flip flops once. LOL.Imagine if they sprayed one of those rooms with Luminol™. It would light up like a pinball machine. Brighter than Tokyo at midnight.
BB.
Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.
So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.
Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.
So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.Honestly, I don't think it is unavoidable. Not advertising on the usual sites will deter mongers, but mongers will always be mongers and feel any place out for extras. Finding an obviously legit place that might give extras is like "The Holy Grail" of mongering. Your friend will, unfortunately, just have to deal with the occasional pervert. And if she's Asian, then she's definitely going to get hit up for extras. Just sayin.
Rocket Dork
06-17-16, 11:37
Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.
So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.I have seen massage parlors, (including Yus) put offers on groupon. That should give mongers an idea its a legit place. Rocket Dork.
DMichaels69
06-17-16, 11:43
Get good MT's that are certified and can do a good massage. I have used the thumbtack site for legit massages and got a response from an AMP.
Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.
So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.
BigTimeLoser
06-17-16, 11:46
Hey Bob,
Not sure if this is the case, but I would make sure that all advertising referred to LMT / professional / licensed status and that all licenses were displayed near the front desk / entrance of the shop. I would also make sure the receptionist really tries to sell massage as being a solution to a problem.
Aside from that, there are basically 3 types of massage shops. 1, the ones that provide the extras and look for the guys that want that service. 2, the ones that are legit but also see that they will make more money with attractive / fit / well-dressed LMTs and get that business that is borderline where guys might think they get extras but aren't quite too upset when it doesn't happen. And 3, 100% legit where licensed LMTs work to treat actual problems and are run more like wellness clinics than shops.
I knew a Polish girl that was working at #2 and was so fed up with the ridiculous demands to wear sexier clothing that she went to work for a chiro. It is a fine line, being attractive enough to draw in that bigger crowd and being just another Massage Envy.
Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.
So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.
I have seen massage parlors, (including Yus) put offers on groupon. That should give mongers an idea its a legit place. Rocket Dork.I think the suggestions so far can help, but there may be no full solution.
We all, at one time, may have gazed at the sign "No Any Special Service" with a secret, ironic chuckle while getting a rimming, discounted with a Groupon, from a provider who just shed her MT polo-shirt-and-sweatpants legit uniform.
I think all of those things can reduce the harassment by lowering expectations, and that most guys who's mom raised them right will get the signals and behave:
- consider where and how you advertise.
- dress code for the MTs.
- certificates, other licenses displayed in plain view.
Unfortunately, however, it seems that pure racism and ignorance play a role here when guys don't respect individuals because they are Asian. Assuming they are offering extras and getting indignant when they are shut down.
One "legit" shop I like a lot even has an explanation posted stating that they don't offer "Asian services" and are not a "happy ending parlor", and 90% are Asian providers and they are Asian-owned. It's just an unfortunate fact of life in America.
My $. 02.
Best to you and your friend, Bob. Happy to respectfully patronize to the shop for a legit massage. Please let us know the details when it's open.
BB.
Great suggestions. Thank you all. I'll certainly let you know when it's open, assuming we can get a business license and a lease. Bob.
I think the suggestions so far can help, but there may be no full solution.
We all, at one time, may have gazed at the sign "No Any Special Service" with a secret, ironic chuckle while getting a rimming, discounted with a Groupon, from a provider who just shed her MT polo-shirt-and-sweatpants legit uniform.
I think all of those things can reduce the harassment by lowering expectations, and that most guys who's mom raised them right will get the signals and behave:
- consider where and how you advertise.
- dress code for the MTs.
- certificates, other licenses displayed in plain view.
Unfortunately, however, it seems that pure racism and ignorance play a role here when guys don't respect individuals because they are Asian. Assuming they are offering extras and getting indignant when they are shut down.
One "legit" shop I like a lot even has an explanation posted stating that they don't offer "Asian services" and are not a "happy ending parlor", and 90% are Asian providers and they are Asian-owned. It's just an unfortunate fact of life in America.
My $. 02.
Best to you and your friend, Bob. Happy to respectfully patronize to the shop for a legit massage. Please let us know the details when it's open.
BB.
Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.
So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.I would make it a point to have some male MTs working in addition to what others have said. It's kind of like having some backup to just the women in the shop (safer?) and it automatically makes me think a place is more legit in that I feel like men and women are served here.
Also, maybe some yelp reviews from women wouldn't hurt. I think of Pain Stop as one of the great legit Asian massages in Chicago where I've never thought of it as anything, but legit.
Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.
So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.What about asking for the tip as part of the door fee? And maybe advertise no tip necessary but appreciated? Call it a "Certified Massage Therapist Tip" or something. As a monger, I might be pissed off and not come back or maybe won't even patronize the place in the first place (which is probably better for you anyways), since you don't want that kind of customer.
Don't have lockable doors, just curtains. Have open ceilings. Have fragile massage tables that can't bear the weight of having sex.
I would make it a point to have some male MTs working in addition to what others have said. It's kind of like having some backup to just the women in the shop (safer?) and it automatically makes me think a place is more legit in that I feel like men and women are served here.
Also, maybe some yelp reviews from women wouldn't hurt. I think of Pain Stop as one of the great legit Asian massages in Chicago where I've never thought of it as anything, but legit.Agree to your points. Especially for the yelp reviews. A lot of people look at those, and decide if they are even going to check a place out. BTW alot of ME places are so full that you have to call ahead the week before, to get in, even with a membership. Get the reviews, maybe a special for the NEXT time you visit, after you do the review. Give a referral discount for the same thing. Or use a punch card, buy 10, get 1 free or discount on the 11th.
Sam Singer
06-18-16, 01:47
I have seen massage parlors, (including Yus) put offers on groupon. That should give mongers an idea its a legit place. Rocket Dork.GroupOn should sponsor a gang bang.
GroupOn should sponsor a gang bang.That is all.
Thrillseeker2
06-19-16, 02:32
Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.
So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.Have her hand every new client a clipboard with a 3 page questionnaire about any surgery the client has had and full name and email, current health, trouble spots, etc.
Then when the massage starts make sure the client is draped from toe to neck with a sheet that is at least twice as big as it needs to be and only uncover the area being worked on.
Then follow this up with a massage so good it puts the client to sleep.
I've had the above happen to me at a spa. There was no way I was going to try for extras. Message received loud and clear it was a legit place.
Just my. 02.
Thrillseeker.
HeadFirst80
06-19-16, 08:07
Have her hand every new client a clipboard with a 3 page questionnaire about any surgery the client has had and full name and email, current health, trouble spots, etc.
Then when the massage starts make sure the client is draped from toe to neck with a sheet that is at least twice as big as it needs to be and only uncover the area being worked on.
Then follow this up with a massage so good it puts the client to sleep.
I've had the above happen to me at a spa. There was no way I was going to try for extras. Message received loud and clear it was a legit place.
Just my. 02.
Thrillseeker.Yup, have that happen to be in Lake Zurich and DeerField. Never asked for extras as didn't seem like worth the effort.
What about asking for the tip as part of the door fee? And maybe advertise no tip necessary but appreciated? Call it a "Certified Massage Therapist Tip" or something. As a monger, I might be pissed off and not come back or maybe won't even patronize the place in the first place (which is probably better for you anyways), since you don't want that kind of customer.
Don't have lockable doors, just curtains. Have open ceilings. Have fragile massage tables that can't bear the weight of having sex.I agree with the curtains and walls that do not go all of the up. I was at a massage parlor in Shanghai that used heavy curtains to separate the rooms instead of actual walls. I could not see anyone trying for extras with that kind of set up. I certainly did not and most Chinese massage parlors on China include HE in the massage as standard. No tipping.
Maybe install fake cameras that are somewhat hidden but also easy to spot along with signs that state something about electronic surveillance. That would definitely be a boner killer and should deter mongers who are only interested in extras.
I'm a legit regular (every two weeks) at Heavenly Massage and they are 95% legit. But they have (1) uniforms, sort of (2) a beauty parlor inside (3) groupons (4) a questionaire and email notifications. (5) nice standing shower with steam to clean off the oil. (6) full draped sheets. (7) Well done website. (8) Female yelp reviews. Frankly, it's one of the better legit massage establishments I know. It does most of the recommended things. It's mainly Euro. Bob.
Have her hand every new client a clipboard with a 3 page questionnaire about any surgery the client has had and full name and email, current health, trouble spots, etc.
Then when the massage starts make sure the client is draped from toe to neck with a sheet that is at least twice as big as it needs to be and only uncover the area being worked on.
Then follow this up with a massage so good it puts the client to sleep.
I've had the above happen to me at a spa. There was no way I was going to try for extras. Message received loud and clear it was a legit place.
Just my. 02.
Thrillseeker.
Hey guys,
Long time reader, and figured it's time for me to start contributing.
I decided to bite the bullet and try the Latin place that advertises from time to time on BP. A maps site can also help find them, located in the NW part of the city north of what I'd think of as Logan Square. The place is behind an what looks like a cheap garage, with an unmarked door on the side. My provider let me in, revealing a room with a crappy couch and old TV which was on. Although they advertised a 'table shower,' the setup was really barebones and DIY. I'd asked for an hour but the provider "recommended" a half hour.
The provider, a 5 ft chubby curvy (as opposed to sexy curved) girl maybe in her early 20's led me to a partitioned area made of concrete cinderblocks that did not lead to the ceiling. It looked like there was another 'room' next door, which, if they ever had two providers working, could have been highly awkward.
I got the lightest, most cursory massage I'd had in a while, followed by a short menu with firm prices on the flip; asking for $. 6 for a HJ which seemed on the high side. The girl seemed like she didn't really enjoy or care about what she was doing, and didn't seem to want to hide it.
Other people might have better luck, especially with other providers, but I know I won't be returning.
I'm a legit regular (every two weeks) at Heavenly Massage and they are 95% legit. But they have (1) uniforms, sort of (2) a beauty parlor inside (3) groupons (4) a questionaire and email notifications. (5) nice standing shower with steam to clean off the oil. (6) full draped sheets. (7) Well done website. (8) Female yelp reviews. Frankly, it's one of the better legit massage establishments I know. It does most of the recommended things. It's mainly Euro. Bob.It seems like there's no such thing as 100% legit, really. There's almost always one girl who is willing to go off the plan, or a few that will go a 5% outside of the rules. Keeps it interesting when you go for a legit and get a unexpected bonus w / o trying.
Which 5% is it, Bob? Do 5% of the girls give extras or the girls give 5% extra (self serve, light touching, eg).
I have a seemingly totally-legit place with at least 2 girls eventually doing side work after seeing them semi-regularly for legit for a few years, and almost entirely at their suggestion.
PM ok.
BB.
I always make sure a Massage Therapist offers Extra Play at the first visit. I'm not one that makes numerous visits hoping to get a HJ.
There's one person at HM that sees me at her home. Can't reveal her name. I've heard of other freelancers from HM. My regular appointment is a woman I've known 6 years. She's married. But we are conventional friends (no benefits). Also, all 3 of my FWB Chinese girlfriends (and others I've met over the years) were legit masseuses at legit places.
I guess I'm trying to say it is possible to develop a genuine relationship with any person, (legit or otherwise) that will lead to a physical / romantic relationship.
I guess that's one of the reasons I'm sensitive to the "no tip" scenarios. Every day I hear stories from all three woman about massages with no tips. We live in such a fucked-up society that we have to use stupid hints about extras. Both the masseuse and the customer would be better off if both knew what was on the menu (and off the menu) before we wasted our money (or offended the woman). I know every guy on the forum would tip a woman for a good massage if he knew going in, that's all it would be.
Bob
It seems like there's no such thing as 100% legit, really. There's almost always one girl who is willing to go off the plan, or a few that will go a 5% outside of the rules. Keeps it interesting when you go for a legit and get a unexpected bonus w / o trying.
Which 5% is it, Bob? Do 5% of the girls give extras or the girls give 5% extra (self serve, light touching, eg).
I have a seemingly totally-legit place with at least 2 girls eventually doing side work after seeing them semi-regularly for legit for a few years, and almost entirely at their suggestion.
PM ok.
BB.
Colesmithe
06-19-16, 17:05
I had two very different experiences here on my two trips. The first time the girl was DFK right out of the gates, and pretty much said I could do whatever I wanted to her. She wasn't the girl in the pics and much heavier so I opted to have her give me a CBJ - $. 60 all in as quoted on the website.
Second time there sounded much for like your experience. Mediocre.
Hey guys,
Long time reader, and figured it's time for me to start contributing.
I decided to bite the bullet and try the Latin place that advertises from time to time on BP. A maps site can also help find them, located in the NW part of the city north of what I'd think of as Logan Square. The place is behind an what looks like a cheap garage, with an unmarked door on the side. My provider let me in, revealing a room with a crappy couch and old TV which was on. Although they advertised a 'table shower,' the setup was really barebones and DIY. I'd asked for an hour but the provider "recommended" a half hour.
The provider, a 5 ft chubby curvy (as opposed to sexy curved) girl maybe in her early 20's led me to a partitioned area made of concrete cinderblocks that did not lead to the ceiling. It looked like there was another 'room' next door, which, if they ever had two providers working, could have been highly awkward.
I got the lightest, most cursory massage I'd had in a while, followed by a short menu with firm prices on the flip; asking for $. 6 for a HJ which seemed on the high side. The girl seemed like she didn't really enjoy or care about what she was doing, and didn't seem to want to hide it.
Other people might have better luck, especially with other providers, but I know I won't be returning.
I always make sure a Massage Therapist offers Extra Play at the first visit. I'm not one that makes numerous visits hoping to get a HJ.To each his own. I like to get a good legit massage often and without any expectation or attempt for extras. The best legit massages have usually come from licensed pros, and I stick with a few go-tos. It also has happened that, in a couple of cases, after getting to know them and developing a genuine mutual fondness, things turned naturally in another direction.
So, it's not the only possible scenario to be desperately hanging on, wasting their money and time in the unlikely hope that it might come through. It's sometimes just a nice surprise bonus, as I said.
I'm guessing anyone looking for something extra pretty much knows how and where. Some guys also seem to like the sport of the chase. Not me.
Respect,
BB.
There's one person at HM that sees me at her home. Can't reveal her name. I've heard of other freelancers from HM. My regular appointment is a woman I've known 6 years. She's married. But we are conventional friends (no benefits). Also, all 3 of my FWB Chinese girlfriends (and others I've met over the years) were legit masseuses at legit places.
I guess I'm trying to say it is possible to develop a genuine relationship with any person, (legit or otherwise) that will lead to a physical / romantic relationship.
I guess that's one of the reasons I'm sensitive to the "no tip" scenarios. Every day I hear stories from all three woman about massages with no tips. We live in such a fucked-up society that we have to use stupid hints about extras. Both the masseuse and the customer would be better off if both knew what was on the menu (and off the menu) before we wasted our money (or offended the woman). I know every guy on the forum would tip a woman for a good massage if he knew going in, that's all it would be.
BobI always tip something based on the quality of the massage even if there are no extras involved. If I go in hoping for extras and do not get anything it is not the therapists fault for my expectations. Therapist who try to negotiate an outrageous tip upfront are somewhat of an exception. In one or two cases we could not agree an cost of extras and I was significantly shorted on time and given a less than mediocre finger poking. I did not tip and explained why. Paid for hour got 35 minutes and no attempt at a real massage.
Sam Singer
06-20-16, 01:58
Grope on, That is all.Ha. I was not sure if any of you will catch my drift. If GroupOn does not do a Group On (Gang bang) who will? :)
Wirelessone
06-20-16, 19:44
This happened to me recently. I went to an old ATF at her one woman shop. Exchanged hugs and she closed and locked the door behind me or so I thought. The door didn't click into the latch as I would soon discover. She escorts me into the back into the massage room I undress completely, lie down and she begins her massage, door to massage room open cause why not, we are behind an outer glass door, the door to her massage parlor, the one I thought was locked and yet another door to the rear that was left open.
I don't know maybe 30 minutes goes by and while still meeting a modified definition of the term 'face down ass up' I hear a man's voice go 'oh' and she rushes out of the room saying, can I help you'. She is leading him back towards the front, I sit up and hear him say ' I just wanted some information' . She leads him all the way back to the front, answers his questions quickly and gets back to me. She said oh my god I thought I locked the door but it didn't latch close. The part that was creepy and weird was when he opened the not latched door and entered the office foyer, never said anything like 'hello, anyone here' and wait for a response, nope he came right in, we didn't hear him and got surprised (we did have the universal korean massage parlor mix tape playing) All I can say is that maybe him discovering me there, thru him off his intentions or he was just a creepy dude.
Needless to say it was a bit of bone killer but I finished what I came for. As I was getting dressed, she said earlier a monger who claimed she knew him, asked her to come to his home for $$$ but she declined cause she said she didn't think she knew him and didn't want anything to happen to her as she made the universal sign for throat slashing. She works alone cause she said girls get jealous when they work together in a massage parlor and bicker and gossip. I told her 'korean ladies bicker and gossip, get out' her face turned serious for a moment until she realized wired one had made a funny.
A monger also called and said he would be there at 6:30 pm so I told her I would call at 8 pm to make sure everything was okay. I did call and she said she was okay and for being nice, no charge for my full set massage next weekend (a massage parlor may advertise as a half-set (HE) or a full-set (full service) massage parlor when they advertise for ladies in the korean language newspapers).
So always be aware and as Bob521 says (for those of you who didn't already know) treat the ladies with some common decency and you may be rewarded.
Wired.
DMichaels69
06-20-16, 22:53
Well the only thing this is missing is a LEO sighting.
This happened to me recently. I went to an old ATF at her one woman shop. Exchanged hugs and she closed and locked the door behind me or so I thought. The door didn't click into the latch as I would soon discover. She escorts me into the back into the massage room I undress completely, lie down and she begins her massage, door to massage room open cause why not, we are behind an outer glass door, the door to her massage parlor, the one I thought was locked and yet another door to the rear that was left open.
I don't know maybe 30 minutes goes by and while still meeting a modified definition of the term 'face down ass up' I hear a man's voice go 'oh' and she rushes out of the room saying, can I help you'. She is leading him back towards the front, I sit up and hear him say ' I just wanted some information' . She leads him all the way back to the front, answers his questions quickly and gets back to me. She said oh my god I thought I locked the door but it didn't latch close. The part that was creepy and weird was when he opened the not latched door and entered the office foyer, never said anything like 'hello, anyone here' and wait for a response, nope he came right in, we didn't hear him and got surprised (we did have the universal korean massage parlor mix tape playing) All I can say is that maybe him discovering me there, thru him off his intentions or he was just a creepy dude.
Needless to say it was a bit of bone killer but I finished what I came for. As I was getting dressed, she said earlier a monger who claimed she knew him, asked her to come to his home for $$$ but she declined cause she said she didn't think she knew him and didn't want anything to happen to her as she made the universal sign for throat slashing. She works alone cause she said girls get jealous when they work together in a massage parlor and bicker and gossip. I told her 'korean ladies bicker and gossip, get out' her face turned serious for a moment until she realized wired one had made a funny.
A monger also called and said he would be there at 6:30 pm so I told her I would call at 8 pm to make sure everything was okay. I did call and she said she was okay and for being nice, no charge for my full set massage next weekend (a massage parlor may advertise as a half-set (HE) or a full-set (full service) massage parlor when they advertise for ladies in the korean language newspapers).
So always be aware and as Bob521 says (for those of you who didn't already know) treat the ladies with some common decency and you may be rewarded.
Wired.
HeadFirst80
06-21-16, 06:28
I usually tip if the massage was good OR at least there was an effort for it (amount may vary based on quality).
If other items were on the menu the tip would vary accordingly but at least there would be minimum for the service itself. I agree if the understanding was clear going in the place it would change the tipping scenario considerably!
There's one person at HM that sees me at her home. Can't reveal her name. I've heard of other freelancers from HM. My regular appointment is a woman I've known 6 years. She's married. But we are conventional friends (no benefits). Also, all 3 of my FWB Chinese girlfriends (and others I've met over the years) were legit masseuses at legit places.
I guess I'm trying to say it is possible to develop a genuine relationship with any person, (legit or otherwise) that will lead to a physical / romantic relationship.
I guess that's one of the reasons I'm sensitive to the "no tip" scenarios. Every day I hear stories from all three woman about massages with no tips. We live in such a fucked-up society that we have to use stupid hints about extras. Both the masseuse and the customer would be better off if both knew what was on the menu (and off the menu) before we wasted our money (or offended the woman). I know every guy on the forum would tip a woman for a good massage if he knew going in, that's all it would be.
Bob
Call Me Slappy
06-21-16, 21:44
MH, drew "Lisa. " Not a looker by any means, but nice bolt ons to play with on the flip.
Massage was decent, I've definitely had worse in a legit place.
Not quite a jackhammer in technique, but could have been gentler.
There was another MT there worth a second look. Maybe I'll go back next week and find out.
MH, drew "Lisa. " Not a looker by any means, but nice bolt ons to play with on the flip.
Massage was decent, I've definitely had worse in a legit place.
Not quite a jackhammer in technique, but could have been gentler.
There was another MT there worth a second look. Maybe I'll go back next week and find out.It is funny how so many of the women here that are offering extras have no technique for a simple HJ. I have been to many Chinese massage parlors overseas and they are definitely trained how to perform a satisfying HJ. They take their time and know how to let things build up slowly for a great finish. The noises and facial expressions are a little over the top for a HJ but I think that is for the foreigners only. I even had a couple therapists perform what I think may have been ED treatment. Applying pressure to my pelvis and the area below the scrotum. That was uncomfortable when she was doing it however I had the most satisfying ejaculation afterword's. Maybe I will ask someone to make a training video next time I go.
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