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Sam Singer
10-18-15, 22:36
Based on a suggestion by a seasoned AMPist, I cheat-sheeted a few korean words I picked up from a web site. I have not had the right opportunity to use it. I do not know if I can say it with the right intonation.
Jjang-ee-da. As a way of approving something ('that is pretty cool').
Mohm-jjang. A conversation starter once you are in the room ('you have a great body'.
Eol-jjang. Same context. Means beautiful face.
Bul-geum. Sort of like TGIF, so use it on a Friday.
And for extra credit, women like to trash talk other women, it is universal. It makes them feel special if you prop them up and put their competitor down.
That is all is accomplished with
dwen-jang-nyeo - 'Cheap woman'. So bring up a conversation where you have been to other AMPs.. she asks how were they, you say dwen-jang-nyeo and that she is the opposite.
Seems more and more places are expecting. 6 for a standard finish. Gets very tiring going back and forth explaining that. 40 is it. The girls don't get that the door price is creeping up as well, so an extra 20 for them aint going to fly.
With little to go on I stopped by lux nearby my hotel in buffalo grove. Met by older mamassan and greeted her with some Korean well wishes. She was surprised I knew a kittle Korean and showed me to the room. My therapist was shi shi an older 40 something k girl. Fit and still put together. She gave me an extremely thorough ts and after thanking her and telling her it felt good in Korean she got more playful in the shower. Off to the room where she delivered a nice hard massage with back walking at my request. Standard finish and when she picked up the. 4 I laid out for her she frowned and told me it was. 6. For standard visit. Since she was overtime and gave a very nice massage I caved and gave her the additional Jackson. Sorry to ruin it for you locals. All and all a good experience it pays to know a little Korean to break the ice with these girls. Any more suggestions of where to try (K AMPs) in the north burbs would be appreciated as variety is the spice of life.
Happy mongering,
The dude abides.
DMichaels69
10-19-15, 21:58
I've been to spa's where women trash talk the other girls there and at other spa's. That's not cool for me and I ignore it.
Based on a suggestion by a seasoned AMPist, I cheat-sheeted a few korean words I picked up from a web site. I have not had the right opportunity to use it. I do not know if I can say it with the right intonation.
Jjang-ee-da. As a way of approving something ('that is pretty cool').
Mohm-jjang. A conversation starter once you are in the room ('you have a great body'.
Eol-jjang. Same context. Means beautiful face.
Bul-geum. Sort of like TGIF, so use it on a Friday.
And for extra credit, women like to trash talk other women, it is universal. It makes them feel special if you prop them up and put their competitor down.
That is all is accomplished with
dwen-jang-nyeo - 'Cheap woman'. So bring up a conversation where you have been to other AMPs.. she asks how were they, you say dwen-jang-nyeo and that she is the opposite.
Seems more and more places are expecting. 6 for a standard finish. Gets very tiring going back and forth explaining that. 40 is it. The girls don't get that the door price is creeping up as well, so an extra 20 for them aint going to fly.Actually I was at a well established place in algonguin lately and absolutely no talk of tip and since I only had $30 on me that was good. If people are going to cave they are going to keep asking.
Member #5933
10-20-15, 22:41
I went there yesterday and did some recon. Nice location, locked buzzer door, ts,sauna.
The lady that answered was heavy set and really messed up teeth. Didn't even look Asian. I asked if she was my mt she said yes. I said I was only there for info. She said theres 3 girls. I heard voices but saw noone else. This could be great place if they have hot girls. If anyone toftt hit me up with some 411. This is 222 dundee next to mcdonalds in Wheeling.
I went to mystic today to meet Mia. Hehe I know her from many AMPs in area and her and I always had a "special" time. Glad she resurfaced. Nice place and more girls coming soon. 65 hr plus tip.
Kaptain Kool
10-20-15, 22:41
I was in the mood for some relaxation today so I took a stroll to the AMP on Grand next to the pizza place. The place inside was not too elegant (especially the restroom) but good enough and they ask you to take off your shoes. I asked for one hour but got shorted on time, which was not horrible since the massage was sub par anyway. I wanted the therapist to walk on my back, but you need to get a different room with overhead bars, which they do have available. The therapist, whose name I did not get, asked for a tip beforehand so I obliged. Just in case, I went prepared for more than a standard end, a step above that, and was asked for $ but I talked her down for 20 less. I think that if you opt for a half hour here, they are more likely to accept a lower tip, since they are spending less time on you. Anyway, I left happy. Stay kool gents.
Well. Theres nothing wrong with someone asking what they would like for service theyre going to give. If a girl thinks its worth 120 for her to give a blowjob, then she's free to ask. If she thinks jerking someone off is worth 60 that's fine to ask too. Everybody gets to set their prices. But if I think its worth 40, then ill say, I've got 40. And if she says no, you can just agree to not agree and move on. Usually, they would rather have the 40 to stroke your dick for 4 minutes than 0 to not. So I've yet to find a provider that refuses to handjob me for 40, or 80 for a blow job or 100 for fucking. 100 is a lot of money. They might ask for 140 to fuck, but you also know at that point that they are willing to fuck, andif theyre willing to fuck a stranger for money, is 100 dollars worth turning down over an additional 40? I've yet to find the girl who thinks it is. Pay what you think things are worth, don't pay more than you feel comfortable with.
But also, pay too low and you might get a super shitty experience and then you're out money too for something that wasnt all that fun. And is that worth saving 20 $ for? If I'm going to pay 80 for a blow job and I think the chick seems pretty hot and seems like a wild time, I'm not going to haggle her down to 60 or something and have her be annoyed and then give a bland blowie. Ill just pay her the 100 have a fun blow job and then just not return.
Seems more and more places are expecting. 6 for a standard finish. Gets very tiring going back and forth explaining that. 40 is it. The girls don't get that the door price is creeping up as well, so an extra 20 for them aint going to fly.
CoolPatrick
10-21-15, 13:11
Well. Theres nothing wrong with someone asking what they would like for service theyre going to give. If a girl thinks its worth 120 for her to give a blowjob, then she's free to ask. If she thinks jerking someone off is worth 60 that's fine to ask too. Everybody gets to set their prices. But if I think its worth 40, then ill say, I've got 40. And if she says no, you can just agree to not agree and move on. Usually, they would rather have the 40 to stroke your dick for 4 minutes than 0 to not. So I've yet to find a provider that refuses to handjob me for 40, or 80 for a blow job or 100 for fucking. 100 is a lot of money. They might ask for 140 to fuck, but you also know at that point that they are willing to fuck, andif theyre willing to fuck a stranger for money, is 100 dollars worth turning down over an additional 40? I've yet to find the girl who thinks it is. Pay what you think things are worth, don't pay more than you feel comfortable with.
But also, pay too low and you might get a super shitty experience and then you're out money too for something that wasnt all that fun. And is that worth saving 20 $ for? If I'm going to pay 80 for a blow job and I think the chick seems pretty hot and seems like a wild time, I'm not going to haggle her down to 60 or something and have her be annoyed and then give a bland blowie. Ill just pay her the 100 have a fun blow job and then just not return.Perfect mind set, cares a bit more about of ensuring quality than quantity.
ReadyForRub
10-21-15, 13:46
I went there yesterday and did some recon. Nice location, locked buzzer door, ts,sauna.
The lady that answered was heavy set and really messed up teeth. Didn't even look Asian. I asked if she was my mt she said yes. I said I was only there for info. She said theres 3 girls. I heard voices but saw noone else. This could be great place if they have hot girls. If anyone toftt hit me up with some 411. This is 222 dundee next to mcdonalds in Wheeling.
I went to mystic today to meet Mia. Hehe I know her from many AMPs in area and her and I always had a "special" time. Glad she resurfaced. Nice place and more girls coming soon. 65 hr plus tip.Go to the more appropriate Mount Prospect pages for in-depth descriptions. They are NOT in Chicago.
For example, today I saw a good friend. Gave her $80 tip. For legit massage. Tomorrow we are going to a hotel and fuck for three hours. No tip. Just sex. It all balances out. Also when I left the legit place today, I saw another friend. Make out session. Oral sex. Fully Naked. Got her off twice. $60. Tip. But she wants to see me on her day off now. The idea, is that both people should enjoy. Then it is less about money, and more about having a good time. And having a good friend. Bob.
Well. Theres nothing wrong with someone asking what they would like for service theyre going to give. If a girl thinks its worth 120 for her to give a blowjob, then she's free to ask. If she thinks jerking someone off is worth 60 that's fine to ask too. Everybody gets to set their prices. But if I think its worth 40, then ill say, I've got 40. And if she says no, you can just agree to not agree and move on. Usually, they would rather have the 40 to stroke your dick for 4 minutes than 0 to not. So I've yet to find a provider that refuses to handjob me for 40, or 80 for a blow job or 100 for fucking. 100 is a lot of money. They might ask for 140 to fuck, but you also know at that point that they are willing to fuck, andif theyre willing to fuck a stranger for money, is 100 dollars worth turning down over an additional 40? I've yet to find the girl who thinks it is. Pay what you think things are worth, don't pay more than you feel comfortable with.
But also, pay too low and you might get a super shitty experience and then you're out money too for something that wasnt all that fun. And is that worth saving 20 $ for? If I'm going to pay 80 for a blow job and I think the chick seems pretty hot and seems like a wild time, I'm not going to haggle her down to 60 or something and have her be annoyed and then give a bland blowie. Ill just pay her the 100 have a fun blow job and then just not return.
For example, today I saw a good friend. Gave her $80 tip. For legit massage. Tomorrow we are going to a hotel and fuck for three hours. No tip. Just sex. It all balances out. Also when I left the legit place today, I saw another friend. Make out session. Oral sex. Fully Naked. Got her off twice. $60. Tip. But she wants to see me on her day off now. The idea, is that both people should enjoy. Then it is less about money, and more about having a good time. And having a good friend. Bob.Damn Bob you are a stud!
JamesTChicago
10-21-15, 20:05
Looks like she's gone solo? Can anyone confirm or is this a ploy by LEO? She asks to text which is odd. Anyone have thoughts? Leave a message here or pm me please. Happy hump day!
Rocket Dork
10-21-15, 20:48
For example, today I saw a good friend. Gave her $80 tip. For legit massage. Tomorrow we are going to a hotel and fuck for three hours. No tip. Just sex. It all balances out. Also when I left the legit place today, I saw another friend. Make out session. Oral sex. Fully Naked. Got her off twice. $60. Tip. But she wants to see me on her day off now. The idea, is that both people should enjoy. Then it is less about money, and more about having a good time. And having a good friend. Bob.Wow! Bob you are my idol! Rocket Dork.
JolieThornDog
10-21-15, 21:14
Wow! Bob you are my idol! Rocket Dork.What a STUD. You're my idol too.
HottieHunter42
10-21-15, 22:39
Wow! Bob you are my idol! Rocket Dork.Maybe I could pick up a few pointers as to how he does it! .
Rocket Dork
10-22-15, 08:42
Maybe I could pick up a few pointers as to how he does it! .Bob is their friend first and fwb later. Its really simple. Rocket Dork.
HottieHunter42
10-22-15, 10:35
Bob is their friend first and fwb later. Its really simple. Rocket Dork.There has to be more to it. I'm nice to everyone. I'm friendly to everyone. It has never gotten me laid.
Maybe if I learned some Mandarin. .
DMichaels69
10-22-15, 14:39
Sometimes knowing Mandarin helps sometimes not.
There has to be more to it. I'm nice to everyone. I'm friendly to everyone. It has never gotten me laid.
Maybe if I learned some Mandarin. .
Saw an ad on BP for a rub down. Booked an appointment with CeCe. Confirmed it was $160 for an hour massage with no tipping required. She was gorgeous, very happy with what I saw. Left very happy.
Because it was no tip required I only brought the cash to bring to the appointment. She never asked for more money but at the end I felt bad for not having brought more to compliment her for leaving me so satisfied. How do you handle these situations? If I wanted to return what would you suggest?
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sexy-irish-brunette-that-all-men-adore/28647783
She posts a lot on BP and my imagination is running away with me. Does anyone know if she is legit? I've tried looking other places without much luck.
CoolPatrick
10-22-15, 17:32
Sometimes knowing Mandarin helps sometimes not.My point is, stereotype works both ways. It's a sad truth.
If you are White and know Mandarin, you are off a good start, if you are ethnic minorities, chances are not as good, but if you let them know you are a good citizen of Uncle Sam (your turn to sell the illusion of helping them get green cards), you odds may increase for getting these great deals like Bob's story.
A genuine personal connection is yet another unicorn in this hobby. Like meeting people in real life, it all depends on your look, $, charm and a million things. Sometimes it is a two way street, often time it's just a one way.
Sometimes knowing Mandarin helps sometimes not.Learning even something as basic as how to say "Hello" and "Thank you" helps. I've had far better sessions with Asians at MP's when I could address mamasan and the provider in their language. Most smart phones will give you access to a basic translation with an audio playback you can listen to and memorize. Just be sure to check translations: I once tried to learn something more complex, and after I'd memorized the phrase, I entered the text for a reverse translation. Found out I was asking for something *very* different (and slightly embarrassing).
There has to be more to it. I'm nice to everyone. I'm friendly to everyone. It has never gotten me laid.
Don't feel you're alone in this regard. It hasn't worked for me either.
HottieHunter42
10-23-15, 00:07
Learning even something as basic as how to say "Hello" and "Thank you" helps. I've had far better sessions with Asians at MP's when I could address mamasan and the provider in their language. Most smart phones will give you access to a basic translation with an audio playback you can listen to and memorize. Just be sure to check translations: I once tried to learn something more complex, and after I'd memorized the phrase, I entered the text for a reverse translation. Found out I was asking for something *very* different (and slightly embarrassing).I'm white. Decent-looking (the girls all like to say "Oh! You so hansum!" but not sure if I can treally trust their sincerity, due to the circumstances LOL). Smart, funny good personality. NOt a lot of $$ though, but otherwise, I'm a pretty good catch LOL!
I do know how to say hello and thank you in Chinese. They do seem to perk up and respond when they hear you at least try to converse with themin their native language. I guess it shows that you're serious and show at least a bit of interest in them as a person.
And I guess that's where it starts!
I think RD summed it up pretty well. For what its worth, I'm 63 and have diabetes ED, use viagra, am married, and by no means am I a stud. I do pay a lot of attention to these women. I probably have a "type" that I go for. 40-50 year old (non-pro) divorced Chinese women, and a few 30 year olds. I don't deliberately pick them, but these are the ones that I seem to click with. For me 50 year old is "young", haha. Several of them speak little English, although over time, all are learning. In fact, I am teaching English to two right now. (Naked English lessons.) I also let two others practice driving using my car. I meet most of the women in foot spas, so they do not normally give hand-jobs to guys. These are all lonely women with no transportation, few friends, separated from their families. Also, it turns out, they have not had sex in quite a while. Until they meet me.
The real common theme is: Relationships. Not transactions. I actually care about them. Hopefully, it shows. For example, we posted about Island Spa. The current woman is probably 60. Scared to death of the police because she saw another woman arrested. It turns out this poor woman is putting her son through college in England. It breaks my heart to see the sacrifices these women make for their family. She's married, so I know sex is off the table.
I always get the name. And their Chinese name. Get to know where they are from in China. I memorize this shit. So when I see them again, I can ask about their mother, or son, or whatever. I save all this information in WeChat and my Google Contacts, along with the geocoordinates of where they live and work. I spend quite a bit of time. Hours - WeChatting with these people. So we truly have relationships and they all know I care about them. I buy presents. I learned about 100 Chinese words. And they love teaching me Chinese while I teach them English.
In a massage session, (sometimes even in a Foot Spa) I massage the woman, usually about 10 minutes into the hour. (Never ever get half hour).
So last Wednesday, for example, the woman I posted about was a legit masseuse, I've known for a couple years. WeChat contacts and many sessions at a foot spa. She's now at a conventional spa. (which shall go nameless to protect her). I went into the room with her, and asked her to stay. I took of my clothes in front of her. Then faced her and embraced her and kissed her. I happened to kiss her neck and she shudders and moaned and her knees sort of buckled. (Made a mental note to remember that "move").
I will digress to say, that since these women are non-pros, the whole idea is to give them pleasure first. They always reciprocate. And like I said, it's never about the money. Its about kindness, affection, and a good orgasm. A common theme in life. If you know how to give a girl a great orgasm, she will remember you.
So I went to the table laid down and asked her to lie next to me. Took all her clothes off, and made out. Whenever I did something that caused a moan or reaction, I filed that away and continued. By the way, oral sex is pretty uncommon in China, especially DATY. So each woman was initially afraid, but at the same time, tremendously aroused, since she probably never got it before. When we finished, she actually said, "I needed that". I felt good that I could give her that pleasure. I am certain, future sessions will be just as good. When I see her on her day off, I know there will be no charge. After all, she is not a prostitute. She's a woman who enjoys spending time with me and having sex.
The point here is not to talk about my session or my women. But rather to say it's just a mindset. Pick a few women you connect with. And make sure you take care of your partner, emotionally, and physically.
I'm white. Decent-looking (the girls all like to say "Oh! You so hansum!" but not sure if I can treally trust their sincerity, due to the circumstances LOL). Smart, funny good personality. NOt a lot of $$ though, but otherwise, I'm a pretty good catch LOL!
I do know how to say hello and thank you in Chinese. They do seem to perk up and respond when they hear you at least try to converse with themin their native language. I guess it shows that you're serious and show at least a bit of interest in them as a person.
And I guess that's where it starts!
Any MPs with a Latin flair? Had my fill of AMPs for the moment; PM me with details.
Any one been to the massage apartment in Lakeview?
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/tantric-mutual-touch-rubs-with-gorgeous-latina/24432943
I know her pics are fake; I tried TTOFT but my spidey senses where in overdrive that night and I ended up standing her up probably over nothing. I think she works with a few other girls.
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sexy-irish-brunette-that-all-men-adore/28647783
She posts a lot on BP and my imagination is running away with me. Does anyone know if she is legit? I've tried looking other places without much luck.http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?7597-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=2551429#post2551429.
FrankyCando
10-23-15, 17:23
For example, today I saw a good friend. Gave her $80 tip. For legit massage. Tomorrow we are going to a hotel and fuck for three hours. No tip. Just sex. It all balances out. Also when I left the legit place today, I saw another friend. Make out session. Oral sex. Fully Naked. Got her off twice. $60. Tip. But she wants to see me on her day off now. The idea, is that both people should enjoy. Then it is less about money, and more about having a good time. And having a good friend. Bob.3-4 years ago I use to have 3 setups like that from massage place, but they have moved on to far away places.
Good thing bcs I was getting involved with one of them seriously. And at my age that's dangerous.
and I have heard of this back then from the ladies but mostly to mature/older guys ,hardly any young guys ...and yes befriend them first and be clear if they might be shopping for green card
SouthSideSam
10-24-15, 08:52
New to all of this. First time poster long time lurker. I am considering moving from AMP to incall. Anyone have intel on her? She has been advertising regularly on BP in body rub section. I did RTFF and don't see any posts on her. Posted in BP advertiser reviews forum as well.
Appreciate any info. Thanks.
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/naughty_and_-nice_nude_-massage_with-_a_cute-_curvy_-brunette/3499977
HottieHunter42
10-24-15, 13:48
I meet most of the women in foot spas, so they do not normally give hand-jobs to guys. These are all lonely women with no transportation, few friends, separated from their families. Also, it turns out, they have not had sex in quite a while.
Perhaps that's a big part of it. Meeting these women in a (mostly) non-sexual context, I. E. A foot spa. Somewhere where sex is neither provided or expected. Where it is not a part of the overall equation from the start.
Maybe that's key. Maybe the reason that relationships rarely grow out of a routine massage parlor scenario is because the women working there know that it's a job that there is little opportunity or reason for attachment (though I'm sure it does still happen from time to time). They know what men are there for, and they know what THEY are there for (money) and that limits the potential.
A couple of years ago, I met a girl at a strip club. We have remained close friends, but she has made it fairly clear that there will never be more than that between us, since she knows where we met and believes that this would prevent us from ever being in a relationship, since I'll always remember her in that context, and she fears that it could be brought us and used against her during a future argument. Also, she knows why I was there, so let's be honest about that, too LOL! The whole working girl / monger dichotomy, preventing any future serious entanglements between anyone meeting under those circumstances.
But, if you meet in a non-directly sexual situation, you can perhaps grow it into some more. Maybe much more.
And yes. Being nice I'm sure helps, too.
HH.
But, if you meet in a non-directly sexual situation, you can perhaps grow it into some more. Maybe much more.
And yes. Being nice I'm sure helps, too.
HH.Been there done that. This has never worked for me. In fact it's more trouble than it's worth. For me meeting ladies the old fashoned traditional way is a waste. I want to have fun now, not in ten years. LOL. At least with a pro you know what to expect.
Actually, I do both. I see my relationship friends. But I also go to Anna's, Yun, Lux, etc. Actually, because I get the contact information, I've maintained contact with quite a few women that move on to other places. It is really just networking. Like in conventional "sales". Introductions, etc. Its really a numbers game. Bob.
Been there done that. This has never worked for me. In fact it's more trouble than it's worth. For me meeting ladies the old fashoned traditional way is a waste. I want to have fun now, not in ten years. LOL. At least with a pro you know what to expect.
Bob your posts are education in itself. There's a lot to learn from them. Thanks! On another note, while its a good idea to save little details about the providers in our phone notes or in contacts directory sometimes I worry the worst. What if something happens to us and our family get to discover it. What are your thoughts on it?
I think RD summed it up pretty well. For what its worth, I'm 63 and have diabetes ED, use viagra, am married, and by no means am I a stud. I do pay a lot of attention to these women. I probably have a "type" that I go for. 40-50 year old (non-pro) divorced Chinese women, and a few 30 year olds. I don't deliberately pick them, but these are the ones that I seem to click with. For me 50 year old is "young", haha. Several of them speak little English, although over time, all are learning. In fact, I am teaching English to two right now. (Naked English lessons.) I also let two others practice driving using my car. I meet most of the women in foot spas, so they do not normally give hand-jobs to guys. These are all lonely women with no transportation, few friends, separated from their families. Also, it turns out, they have not had sex in quite a while. Until they meet me.
The real common theme is: Relationships. Not transactions. I actually care about them. Hopefully, it shows. For example, we posted about Island Spa. The current woman is probably 60. Scared to death of the police because she saw another woman arrested. It turns out this poor woman is putting her son through college in England. It breaks my heart to see the sacrifices these women make for their family. She's married, so I know sex is off the table.
I always get the name. And their Chinese name. Get to know where they are from in China. I memorize this shit. So when I see them again, I can ask about their mother, or son, or whatever. I save all this information in WeChat and my Google Contacts, along with the geocoordinates of where they live and work. I spend quite a bit of time. Hours - WeChatting with these people. So we truly have relationships and they all know I care about them. I buy presents. I learned about 100 Chinese words. And they love teaching me Chinese while I teach them English.
In a massage session, (sometimes even in a Foot Spa) I massage the woman, usually about 10 minutes into the hour. (Never ever get half hour).
So last Wednesday, for example, the woman I posted about was a legit masseuse, I've known for a couple years. WeChat contacts and many sessions at a foot spa. She's now at a conventional spa. (which shall go nameless to protect her). I went into the room with her, and asked her to stay. I took of my clothes in front of her. Then faced her and embraced her and kissed her. I happened to kiss her neck and she shudders and moaned and her knees sort of buckled. (Made a mental note to remember that "move").
I will digress to say, that since these women are non-pros, the whole idea is to give them pleasure first. They always reciprocate. And like I said, it's never about the money. Its about kindness, affection, and a good orgasm. A common theme in life. If you know how to give a girl a great orgasm, she will remember you.
So I went to the table laid down and asked her to lie next to me. Took all her clothes off, and made out. Whenever I did something that caused a moan or reaction, I filed that away and continued. By the way, oral sex is pretty uncommon in China, especially DATY. So each woman was initially afraid, but at the same time, tremendously aroused, since she probably never got it before. When we finished, she actually said, "I needed that". I felt good that I could give her that pleasure. I am certain, future sessions will be just as good. When I see her on her day off, I know there will be no charge. After all, she is not a prostitute. She's a woman who enjoys spending time with me and having sex.
The point here is not to talk about my session or my women. But rather to say it's just a mindset. Pick a few women you connect with. And make sure you take care of your partner, emotionally, and physically.
I meet most of the women in foot spas, so they do not normally give hand-jobs to guys. These are all lonely women with no transportation, few friends, separated from their families. Also, it turns out, they have not had sex in quite a while.
Perhaps that's a big part of it. Meeting these women in a (mostly) non-sexual context, I. E. A foot spa. Somewhere where sex is neither provided or expected. Where it is not a part of the overall equation from the start.
Maybe that's key. Maybe the reason that relationships rarely grow out of a routine massage parlor scenario is because the women working there know that it's a job that there is little opportunity or reason for attachment (though I'm sure it does still happen from time to time). They know what men are there for, and they know what THEY are there for (money) and that limits the potential.
A couple of years ago, I met a girl at a strip club. We have remained close friends, but she has made it fairly clear that there will never be more than that between us, since she knows where we met and believes that this would prevent us from ever being in a relationship, since I'll always remember her in that context, and she fears that it could be brought us and used against her during a future argument. Also, she knows why I was there, so let's be honest about that, too LOL! The whole working girl / monger dichotomy, preventing any future serious entanglements between anyone meeting under those circumstances.
But, if you meet in a non-directly sexual situation, you can perhaps grow it into some more. Maybe much more.
And yes. Being nice I'm sure helps, too.
HH.Yes non directly, is the key if looking for relationship, I play it this way I meet AMP girls or independents make friends with and like Bob said always give them massage too, once you know them, be nice show them you care. Now I have girls I can see for massage, make out with, FS, bareback, for free or just door fee, or half price, extended time. All different arrangements, just trying to get more Bang for my buck.
I use Google Voice and Gmail and Google Contacts. Have about 2,000 contacts, mostly business, not social. In some cases I also disguise the names. So it's a needle in the haystack, so to speak. I do not put incriminating details in there. Just contact info. I also use WeChat, and keep that app clean of all history, and hidden. Bob.
Bob your posts are education in itself. There's a lot to learn from them. Thanks! On another note, while its a good idea to save little details about the providers in our phone notes or in contacts directory sometimes I worry the worst. What if something happens to us and our family get to discover it. What are your thoughts on it?
Bob your posts are education in itself. There's a lot to learn from them. Thanks! On another note, while its a good idea to save little details about the providers in our phone notes or in contacts directory sometimes I worry the worst. What if something happens to us and our family get to discover it. What are your thoughts on it?There was actually a movie made about "cleansing" a client's home of "incriminating" details of his private life.
Starred the late, great, Marilyn Chambers as the mother of a "client". It's hysterical!
http://www.jaybonansinga.com/stash-film
Her name is Lily big boobs natural great massage.
Belmont
.What's so special about Lily? She hardly that attractive. Where's the hot latina's around $.
Wirelessone
10-26-15, 23:17
Been there done that. This has never worked for me. In fact it's more trouble than it's worth. For me meeting ladies the old fashoned traditional way is a waste. I want to have fun now, not in ten years. LOL. At least with a pro you know what to expect.I don't want to forget how exciting it is the first time a non pro sticks her hand down my pants. All the chess moves it took to get to that point, flirting, dinner, interactions, etc.
Which leads to another story. I used to meet and greet providers and mongers at places like the living room in Lombard, set up by Mr Tony Soprano and I enjoyed putting names to faces and being able to see ladies at discounts to their advertised rates and not having to be screened cause we already had met, it became odd cause as you talked and joked with girls, they wanted what women want, good guy house, white picket fence but they guys they see are mostly married so it was hard for them to say I want that but what is 'that' cause will my guy go see some Internet hoochie also.
I would also say to the ladies being married means you can't spend $1,000 on a purse knowing that your about to make $2,000 over the weekend cause now you're married. If your man says no, can you handle that or are you going to want to go suck some dick to get that $1,000. If your hubby comes in late on a Friday, are you going to 20 question him about why he didn't answer the phone or are you just going to hit him in the head with a frying pan. What if he knew what you did before you got married and he 20 questions you when you're hanging out with the girls but his mind races and he envisions you on your knees sucking dick.
The wired one is a laugh riot at parties. LOL.
Bottom line is human non pro relationships are complicated but I enjoy the game.
I use Google Voice and Gmail and Google Contacts. Have about 2,000 contacts, mostly business, not social. In some cases I also disguise the names. So it's a needle in the haystack, so to speak. I do not put incriminating details in there. Just contact info. I also use WeChat, and keep that app clean of all history, and hidden. Bob.I guess like with everything else there are no short-cuts. One will need to practice the craft with enough discipline and dedication. Perhaps, one will perfect the art when it will become like second nature over time. I'm still learning the ropes and at times I worry that I had unintentionally left some clues leading to me. LOL.
There was actually a movie made about "cleansing" a client's home of "incriminating" details of his private life.
Starred the late, great, Marilyn Chambers as the mother of a "client". It's hysterical!
http://www.jaybonansinga.com/stash-filmDidn't know that Netflix has the Stash. I'll make a note to watch it. Thanks.
Snowmadics
10-27-15, 09:21
I dreamt had a new provider at an old (not that old) spot in the loop yesterday. She asked for my number. I gave her the wrong number because it didn't feel right.
I walked in on a break from work. Just as I was undressing, work called and said they needed me back early. So she came in and I said I only have a little time (10 minutes). So I lay on my back and she says "oh". Grabs oil and gets down to business. She starts fast then I tell her to slow down. She says, "okay, I go slow long as you want, just let me know, I know you short on time". I asked her to whisper in my ear, she misunderstood me and started licking my earlobe. Then ask for extra for that. I gave her. 6 instead of. 4.
Now back to the number. Is this odd? Do you guys have providers do this? I kept second guessing myself because it would be nice to have something on the side outside of AMP. She wouldn't let me touch her outside of rubbing her leg.
Thoughts?
DMichaels69
10-27-15, 13:11
She wants your number so she can bug you about coming to see her at the spa.
I dreamt had a new provider at an old (not that old) spot in the loop yesterday. She asked for my number. I gave her the wrong number because it didn't feel right.
I walked in on a break from work. Just as I was undressing, work called and said they needed me back early. So she came in and I said I only have a little time (10 minutes). So I lay on my back and she says "oh". Grabs oil and gets down to business. She starts fast then I tell her to slow down. She says, "okay, I go slow long as you want, just let me know, I know you short on time". I asked her to whisper in my ear, she misunderstood me and started licking my earlobe. Then ask for extra for that. I gave her. 6 instead of. 4.
Now back to the number. Is this odd? Do you guys have providers do this? I kept second guessing myself because it would be nice to have something on the side outside of AMP. She wouldn't let me touch her outside of rubbing her leg.
Thoughts?
She wants your number so she can bug you about coming to see her at the spa.Thanks for giving her MY number instead. She starting texting and my wife called the number and now I'm in deep shit.
Next time, just tell her you don't give your number out. You know where to find her etc. Trust me they completely understand.
And, no it's not odd. If they see a sucker, they will solicit business. Some may get a number for extra circular activity away from the spa, but it doesn't.
Sound like she was looking for that.
I will be traveling to Schaumburg next week. Want to find a good place to go. Would prefer table shower and of course to leave happy.
FrankyCando
10-27-15, 17:54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdWYXwjJhAU
Rocket Dork
10-27-15, 18:52
I will be traveling to Schaumburg next week. Want to find a good place to go. Would prefer table shower and of course to leave happy.Enough said. Rocket Dork.
Enough said. Rocket Dork.Appreciate the help. Have RTFF, wanted to get some actual suggestions.
DMichaels69
10-27-15, 20:28
LMAO. For all you ass clowns who tip before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdWYXwjJhAU
Get a burner and give THAT number out.
You guys have to be careful even if you call a place. I have had some spas and providers text (and call even) at odd times. That's when I learned to keep the thing off.
I dreamt had a new provider at an old (not that old) spot in the loop yesterday. She asked for my number. I gave her the wrong number because it didn't feel right.
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Now back to the number. Is this odd? Do you guys have providers do this? I kept second guessing myself because it would be nice to have something on the side outside of AMP. She wouldn't let me touch her outside of rubbing her leg.
Thoughts?
RubberTime88
10-28-15, 19:59
Get a burner and give THAT number out.
You guys have to be careful even if you call a place. I have had some spas and providers text (and call even) at odd times. That's when I learned to keep the thing off.Yup, +1 on the burner app.
Get a burner and give THAT number out.
You guys have to be careful even if you call a place. I have had some spas and providers text (and call even) at odd times. That's when I learned to keep the thing off.I purchased a tracfone 7 years ago, it cost only $20 every 90 days for 60 minutes. I now have over 5000 minutes of credit on the phone.
It can not be traced back to me. I keep it in a hidden compartment in my. It is only turned when I need.
Sam Singer
10-29-15, 02:48
I purchased a tracfone 7 years ago, it cost only $20 every 90 days for 60 minutes. I now have over 5000 minutes of credit on the phone.
It can not be traced back to me. I keep it in a hidden compartment in my. It is only turned when I need.Yep, tracfone works well. You can even go cheaper than that with H20 which charges $10 for 90 days. It is available at Best Buy Mobile store.
I purchased a tracfone 7 years ago, it cost only $20 every 90 days for 60 minutes. I now have over 5000 minutes of credit on the phone.
It can not be traced back to me. I keep it in a hidden compartment in my. It is only turned when I need.Seriously this. My tracfone has triple minutes for life as well, and you can easily find coupons online to get another 60 minutes for free.
I have been a hobbyist for awhile now. I have hit many of the spas in the western burbs (near my work) and some in the south burbs as well. I am a regular at one particular spa but in the interest of trying new places I have been trying some other places with varying degrees of luck. However, I am tired of TOFTM. So, if you are looking to trade info let PM me.
I purchased a tracfone 7 years ago, it cost only $20 every 90 days for 60 minutes. I now have over 5000 minutes of credit on the phone.
It can not be traced back to me. I keep it in a hidden compartment in my. It is only turned when I need.Tracphones are amazingly cheap, both in initial cost and the price to 'refill' them. Pay for it and your minutes in cash, register it to a fake name / address, and even if a provider gets busted, there's no way Crazy Uncle LEO (or anyone else) can trace it back to you. If you're truly paranoid, dispose of it at the first sign of trouble and start over. You're out (maybe) forty dollars, but completely secure.
DMichaels69
10-29-15, 20:49
I use my cell. Man up!
Seriously this. My tracfone has triple minutes for life as well, and you can easily find coupons online to get another 60 minutes for free.
Get a burner and give THAT number out.
You guys have to be careful even if you call a place. I have had some spas and providers text (and call even) at odd times. That's when I learned to keep the thing off.No doubt Jaded. Same here. They call when things are slow or if you had a special request. No time of the day is off limits!
Member #5589
10-29-15, 22:27
Yup, +1 on the burner app.Yes, the Burner app is pretty nice. Cheaper than any pre-paid phone, and you change change numbers at will.
But, since your purchase of Burner App credits goes through the Apple store, your Apple IDee is part of the transaction, not to mention the possibility that the Burner App folks might just cough up your IDee to the authorites (or a divorce lawyer).
Better safe than sorry. Just get a pre-paid phone any pay for the minutes with cash.
DownForPoundin
11-02-15, 22:48
What's going on Chitown. First time visits Chicago and need some help. I'm stuck on Michigan Ave hotel and don't have a car. Looking for a place to walk to. BP or AMP is what I'm looking for preferably still open after 8 pm. I am willing to provide info for anyone visiting Miami. Please PM with Intel. Thanks in advance.
By the way. In reading up on the forums and it looks like the AMPs here are with apartments which is different from Miami where it is in shopping malls. Go figure.
AMP and apartments are two different things. AMP are asian massage parlors which are in strip malls and that sort of thing. Massage with hopefully a happy ending. There are a couple downtown, try looking for Mercy (I think it moved or else I would tell you where it was, there was a Chinatown one and a downtown one and the downtown one is closer to you) or some nails place further south near Michigan, they come up in this forum thread. Then there are Asian apartments which are more full service oriented, I have no idea if there are any in walking distance, but you can't just walk in you have to call and make arrangements.
What's going on Chitown. First time visits Chicago and need some help. I'm stuck on Michigan Ave hotel and don't have a car. Looking for a place to walk to. BP or AMP is what I'm looking for preferably still open after 8 pm. I am willing to provide info for anyone visiting Miami. Please PM with Intel. Thanks in advance.
By the way. In reading up on the forums and it looks like the AMPs here are with apartments which is different from Miami where it is in shopping malls. Go figure.
DownForPoundin
11-03-15, 20:09
AMP and apartments are two different things. AMP are asian massage parlors which are in strip malls and that sort of thing. Massage with hopefully a happy ending. There are a couple downtown, try looking for Mercy (I think it moved or else I would tell you where it was, there was a Chinatown one and a downtown one and the downtown one is closer to you) or some nails place further south near Michigan, they come up in this forum thread. Then there are Asian apartments which are more full service oriented, I have no idea if there are any in walking distance, but you can't just walk in you have to call and make arrangements.Thanks for the clarification. Reminds me of the time I went to a house in LA with my friend who knew another friend and was recommended. Pretty chill spot and everyone knows what's the business. Kind of like the MP in SanJose in Costa Rica. Anyone can provide me with a apartment they recommend that I can try to set an appt for? Please Pm me.
DMichaels69
11-03-15, 20:21
How about a report.
I have been a hobbyist for awhile now. I have hit many of the spas in the western burbs (near my work) and some in the south burbs as well. I am a regular at one particular spa but in the interest of trying new places I have been trying some other places with varying degrees of luck. However, I am tired of TOFTM. So, if you are looking to trade info let PM me.
I think RD summed it up pretty well. For what its worth, I'm 63 and have diabetes ED, use viagra, am married, and by no means am I a stud. I do pay a lot of attention to these women. I probably have a "type" that I go for. 40-50 year old (non-pro) divorced Chinese women, and a few 30 year olds. I don't deliberately pick them, but these are the ones that I seem to click with. For me 50 year old is "young", haha. Several of them speak little English, although over time, all are learning. In fact, I am teaching English to two right now. (Naked English lessons.) I also let two others practice driving using my car. I meet most of the women in foot spas, so they do not normally give hand-jobs to guys. These are all lonely women with no transportation, few friends, separated from their families. Also, it turns out, they have not had sex in quite a while. Until they meet me.
The real common theme is: Relationships. Not transactions. I actually care about them. Hopefully, it shows. For example, we posted about Island Spa. The current woman is probably 60. Scared to death of the police because she saw another woman arrested. It turns out this poor woman is putting her son through college in England. It breaks my heart to see the sacrifices these women make for their family. She's married, so I know sex is off the table.
I always get the name. And their Chinese name. Get to know where they are from in China. I memorize this shit. So when I see them again, I can ask about their mother, or son, or whatever. I save all this information in WeChat and my Google Contacts, along with the geocoordinates of where they live and work. I spend quite a bit of time. Hours - WeChatting with these people. So we truly have relationships and they all know I care about them. I buy presents. I learned about 100 Chinese words. And they love teaching me Chinese while I teach them English.
In a massage session, (sometimes even in a Foot Spa) I massage the woman, usually about 10 minutes into the hour. (Never ever get half hour).
So last Wednesday, for example, the woman I posted about was a legit masseuse, I've known for a couple years. WeChat contacts and many sessions at a foot spa. She's now at a conventional spa. (which shall go nameless to protect her). I went into the room with her, and asked her to stay. I took of my clothes in front of her. Then faced her and embraced her and kissed her. I happened to kiss her neck and she shudders and moaned and her knees sort of buckled. (Made a mental note to remember that "move").
I will digress to say, that since these women are non-pros, the whole idea is to give them pleasure first. They always reciprocate. And like I said, it's never about the money. Its about kindness, affection, and a good orgasm. A common theme in life. If you know how to give a girl a great orgasm, she will remember you.
So I went to the table laid down and asked her to lie next to me. Took all her clothes off, and made out. Whenever I did something that caused a moan or reaction, I filed that away and continued. By the way, oral sex is pretty uncommon in China, especially DATY. So each woman was initially afraid, but at the same time, tremendously aroused, since she probably never got it before. When we finished, she actually said, "I needed that". I felt good that I could give her that pleasure. I am certain, future sessions will be just as good. When I see her on her day off, I know there will be no charge. After all, she is not a prostitute. She's a woman who enjoys spending time with me and having sex.
The point here is not to talk about my session or my women. But rather to say it's just a mindset. Pick a few women you connect with. And make sure you take care of your partner, emotionally, and physically.Very nicely done! Thanks!
OF Charlie
11-04-15, 00:07
Thanks for the clarification. Reminds me of the time I went to a house in LA with my friend who knew another friend and was recommended. Pretty chill spot and everyone knows what's the business. Kind of like the MP in SanJose in Costa Rica. Anyone can provide me with a apartment they recommend that I can try to set an appt for? Please Pm me.I could be wrong, but I don't think there is an apartment on Michigan Ave. The high rent does not make the math work, not to mention the difficulty of finding a parking space. You can try Korean Palace. Look for Lakeview or South Loop locations. But you would need to take a taxi or uber to get there. Korean Palace is on the higher rate side. With taxi, you are probably better off getting an outcall to your hotel.
http://www.koreanpalace.us/models.php
Sam Singer
11-04-15, 01:17
Yes, the Burner app is pretty nice. Cheaper than any pre-paid phone, and you change change numbers at will.
But, since your purchase of Burner App credits goes through the Apple store, your Apple IDee is part of the transaction, not to mention the possibility that the Burner App folks might just cough up your IDee to the authorites (or a divorce lawyer).
Better safe than sorry. Just get a pre-paid phone any pay for the minutes with cash.Have anyone managed to hook up such burner apps with Google Voice? Google voice says it will call you on the Burner app number you provide but it never does for me.
If you want to post an ad with say Craiglist using a burner app, that does not work either. It says it is not a valid number to use. I guess they somehow know.
I am curious about others' experience with either of the above issues I faced.
I have not used a burner but I have used Google voice. Actually, I have two google voice numbers which forward to my cell. But I don't know if I recommend it. It creates an enormous paper trail. All my contacts, including women, are in my phone and my google contacts account. I rename the contacts and add business names to make them look a little less obvious. All the calls and texts and voice-mails are preserved for posterity. I spend way too much time deleting stuff. I always leave the ringer off the phone in case someone calls. My only protection is needle in the haystack strategy. 2000 legit contacts. Hundreds of calls each week to legit contacts. And I do erase those incriminating calls and texts. So I really don't know about recommending Google Voice for this pursuit. Bob.
Have anyone managed to hook up such burner apps with Google Voice? Google voice says it will call you on the Burner app number you provide but it never does for me.
If you want to post an ad with say Craiglist using a burner app, that does not work either. It says it is not a valid number to use. I guess they somehow know.
I am curious about others' experience with either of the above issues I faced.
I use AT&T because you don't have to talk to anyone or logon to a website in order to activate and / or add minutes. If Tracfone can do the same, I'll be glad to switch as the AT&T rates could be better.
I simply use the google voice to make calls mainly. I will call a location to see if they are busy and let them know that I am on my way, that's pretty much it. So for me it works out well and by no means am I at the level of bob. .
I have not used a burner but I have used Google voice. Actually, I have two google voice numbers which forward to my cell. But I don't know if I recommend it. It creates an enormous paper trail. All my contacts, including women, are in my phone and my google contacts account. I rename the contacts and add business names to make them look a little less obvious. All the calls and texts and voice-mails are preserved for posterity. I spend way too much time deleting stuff. I always leave the ringer off the phone in case someone calls. My only protection is needle in the haystack strategy. 2000 legit contacts. Hundreds of calls each week to legit contacts. And I do erase those incriminating calls and texts. So I really don't know about recommending Google Voice for this pursuit. Bob.
Member #5589
11-04-15, 15:23
I use AT&T because you don't have to talk to anyone or logon to a website in order to activate and / or add minutes. If Tracfone can do the same, I'll be glad to switch as the AT&T rates could be better.Tracfone is that easy. Buy the refill card (with cash), scrape off the PIN, add airtime via the phone. Done.
I noticed a lot of places have been popping up in tinley or orland lately, so I decided to check one off I need to check out a couple more.
This one had very nice Massage tables wide and comfortable that was only accompanied by a phenomenal massage that I haven't had in awhile. The last best massage was a Sunny Spa now they have a couple workers in there that are mediocre though. This massage however was a 10 and ended with hot stones and the standard finish. If anyone else has place on 17139,167th and 159th I'd be interested in hearing from them. Stay safe!
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-happy-massage-i-wont-let-you-down/31364888
FrankyCando
11-05-15, 17:31
Was up north and decide to try this place, they were advertising on CL for $49 Per hour.On Townline Rd called them up and made an appointment. I got there and the price changed to 60 anyways long story short massage was great but nothing else offered not even he. a fella ran the desk in front and asked me how my massage was and I said Massage very good but I was looking for a lil extra help at the end ,he smiled and said that all they concentrate on is massage only
For massage only I would repeat if in the area again and the price was as first advertised.
I just dont understand how any place that does strictly massages survive in the racket
HandsomeDan
11-05-15, 19:36
Dropped by old faithful today after a few months. My MT was Alyssa, 9 out 10 on looks, nice slim body and very friendly. The massage was a 10. I asked her if she could walk on my back before she started and she replied of course. She spent a good 30 minutes on my backside and then came down and worked with her hands. She does great stretches with lifting my arms backwards while holding her wrists. The flip was nice and slow and with plenty of soft touch play. Needless to say left happy as always.
I just dont understand how any place that does strictly massages survive in the racketBelieve it or not most people men and women want just a legit massage. There aren't many who want or expect a "Happy Ending". I like getting a legitmassage. When I want a "Happy Ending" massage, I have girls I see for that.
There are several phone apps out there. One good one is Talkatone. Lets you talk and text, but can't send or receive images. I'm pretty sure on their end it looks just like a regular call and has the advantage of not being Google! You get your own phone number and all calls and texts are handled within the app.
I simply use the google voice to make calls mainly. I will call a location to see if they are busy and let them know that I am on my way, that's pretty much it. So for me it works out well and by no means am I at the level of bob. .
Wood Street
11-05-15, 23:50
There are several phone apps out there. One good one is Talkatone. Lets you talk and text, but can't send or receive images. I'm pretty sure on their end it looks just like a regular call and has the advantage of not being Google! You get your own phone number and all calls and texts are handled within the app.Get the Text Now ap. You can text, talk, and send images. I stopped using all others.
George W. Bush
11-06-15, 01:40
Was up north and decide to try this placeCan you provide phone number so if I see ad I can ignore it? Or a link if ad is still up?
JamesTChicago
11-06-15, 11:21
I've been thinking of calling this place. Looks like a lot of young good looking girls! I feel like I have seen this phone number for over a year now, but with different girls a lot of the time. Does anyone have some info? Rates? Have you been there? Who should I ask for? You can PM me if you want. My favorite girl from Logan left and need someone fresh and regular. Thanks in advance! And cheers to the weekend!
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/happy-hour-with-us-prettiest-faces-s-e-n-s-u-a-l-g-o-d-d-e-s-s-e-s/27710962
ApplePiePussy
11-06-15, 16:19
Is there anybody attractive out there that does prostate play?
MeLoveuLonTime
11-06-15, 16:21
Get the Text Now ap. You can text, talk, and send images. I stopped using all others.Textnow is the best.
WhiteRookDown
11-06-15, 17:10
Is there anybody attractive out there that does prostate play?I do believe I saw that option listed on the Spa Paris website.
I've been thinking of calling this place. Looks like a lot of young good looking girls! I feel like I have seen this phone number for over a year now, but with different girls a lot of the time. Does anyone have some info? Rates? Have you been there? Who should I ask for? You can PM me if you want. My favorite girl from Logan left and need someone fresh and regular. Thanks in advance! And cheers to the weekend!
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/happy-hour-with-us-prettiest-faces-s-e-n-s-u-a-l-g-o-d-d-e-s-s-e-s/27710962How fake can these pics get? No thanks.
FrankyCando
11-06-15, 19:53
Can you provide phone number so if I see ad I can ignore it? Or a link if ad is still up?http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/5303537945.html
Note sure where to post this.
I had a wonderful 80 minute legit massage from my friend today. As I was lying there I though about Thanksgiving. Seeing family. Sometimes we take it for granted. But then I think about my friend. 50. Divorced. Alone. All of her family in China. She will never see her mother again. She sends her money every week. I met her at a Foot Spa about a year ago. She lost her job in June. Then she moved to Crystal Lake, and quit after a disagreement with the owner. After being out of work for a few weeks, she was desperate. So I went on this board and asked for help from the members. I got a lot of great suggestions and one of them led to this job. So as we approach Thanksgiving, so I wanted to thank you for the help you've given me and her. She is happy, and very grateful.
The place is a Foot Massage place called Feet Feel in Lemont, on Lemont Road just north of 75th street. There's a Burger King nearby. The owners are two Chinese couples. It is by far the nicest foot place I've been to. No private rooms, but it is quite dark and there are dividers, so you don't feel like you are being observed. The place is totally legit, but at $29 for the one hour massage and $20 as a generous tip, (or 80 minutes for $45) it is a real bargain. About 20 minutes are foot massage and the rest of the time is shoulders, head, back. Pants stay on. As I said, it is legit and strict about it. But if you need a good massage it is a good deal. They have something like 8 workers. I'm sure they are all very good.
So next time you see your favorite therapist, wish her well, and wish her family well also. Any kindness you show her will be repaid ten-fold. Thank you again. Bob.
So next time you see your favorite therapist, wish her well, and wish her family well also. Any kindness you show her will be repaid ten-fold. Thank you again. Bob.Bob I agree 100 percent.
Bob, what is your friend's name so I can ask for her?
Note sure where to post this.
I had a wonderful 80 minute legit massage from my friend today. As I was lying there I though about Thanksgiving. Seeing family. Sometimes we take it for granted. But then I think about my friend. 50. Divorced. Alone. All of her family in China. She will never see her mother again. She sends her money every week. I met her at a Foot Spa about a year ago. She lost her job in June. Then she moved to Crystal Lake, and quit after a disagreement with the owner. After being out of work for a few weeks, she was desperate. So I went on this board and asked for help from the members. I got a lot of great suggestions and one of them led to this job. So as we approach Thanksgiving, so I wanted to thank you for the help you've given me and her. She is happy, and very grateful.
The place is a Foot Massage place called Feet Feel in Lemont, on Lemont Road just north of 75th street. There's a Burger King nearby. The owners are two Chinese couples. It is by far the nicest foot place I've been to. No private rooms, but it is quite dark and there are dividers, so you don't feel like you are being observed. The place is totally legit, but at $29 for the one hour massage and $20 as a generous tip, (or 80 minutes for $45) it is a real bargain. About 20 minutes are foot massage and the rest of the time is shoulders, head, back. Pants stay on. As I said, it is legit and strict about it. But if you need a good massage it is a good deal. They have something like 8 workers. I'm sure they are all very good.
So next time you see your favorite therapist, wish her well, and wish her family well also. Any kindness you show her will be repaid ten-fold. Thank you again. Bob.
Is there anybody attractive out there that does prostate play?The emp in Schaumburg on the corner of Schaumburg & Roselle. Older therapist not very attractive but gets it done.
Tracfone is that easy. Buy the refill card (with cash), scrape off the PIN, add airtime via the phone. Done.Usually can find the starter pack at walgreens, cvs or walmart. Never paid more than $15 for it. Often on sale for $10 or even $5. Ends up being cheap enough to just throw away the phone and buy a new one when you need more minutes rather than spend $30 on a reload card. No paper trail.
I was telling another fellow, they rotate guests among the workers, so any extra business helps them all. But feel free to PM me. Thanks so much. Bob.
Bob, what is your friend's name so I can ask for her?
Member #5244
11-07-15, 18:31
I do believe I saw that option listed on the Spa Paris website.I've been to Spa Paris twice saw Lexus both times. First time I asked about the bikini massage Lexi. Ahhh the bikinis are being washed. Second time I went, I asked about prostate Lexi. We don't have any gloves right now. Massage was above average and Lexi is smokin' hot with a nice round ass, but finish was too mechanical. If going for Prostate option, make sure you bring your own supplies and hopefully you won't get bullshit excuses. Tipped $. 4 both times.
Note sure where to post this.
I had a wonderful 80 minute legit massage from my friend today. As I was lying there I though about Thanksgiving. Seeing family. Sometimes we take it for granted. But then I think about my friend. 50. Divorced. Alone. All of her family in China. She will never see her mother again. She sends her money every week. I met her at a Foot Spa about a year ago. She lost her job in June. Then she moved to Crystal Lake, and quit after a disagreement with the owner. After being out of work for a few weeks, she was desperate. So I went on this board and asked for help from the members. I got a lot of great suggestions and one of them led to this job. So as we approach Thanksgiving, so I wanted to thank you for the help you've given me and her. She is happy, and very grateful.
The place is a Foot Massage place called Feet Feel in Lemont, on Lemont Road just north of 75th street. There's a Burger King nearby. The owners are two Chinese couples. It is by far the nicest foot place I've been to. No private rooms, but it is quite dark and there are dividers, so you don't feel like you are being observed. The place is totally legit, but at $29 for the one hour massage and $20 as a generous tip, (or 80 minutes for $45) it is a real bargain. About 20 minutes are foot massage and the rest of the time is shoulders, head, back. Pants stay on. As I said, it is legit and strict about it. But if you need a good massage it is a good deal. They have something like 8 workers. I'm sure they are all very good.
So next time you see your favorite therapist, wish her well, and wish her family well also. Any kindness you show her will be repaid ten-fold. Thank you again. Bob.Bob, I've had much the same experience: I treat the MP decently, try to speak a little of her language (managing to say something as simple as "Hello" of "Thank you" in their native language improves a session considerably, IMHO) and you'll reap the reward. No cost to you, outside of the time to memorize what you want to say, and it's well worth it.
WhiteRookDown
11-08-15, 10:16
Again, I'm just providing info I've seen on the Spa Paris website. Prostate play is of no interest to me at all. Lexi does seem to be the weak link at Spa Paris, in terms of the latter stages of the massage. She looks great, has lots of strength in her arms and hands, but is indeed quite mechanical. Perhaps she is there to cater to female customers? I have noticed at a couple of other spas that they'll have one provider that just doesn't have the enthusiasm for a male client as the other providers, especially in a couple of very upscale suburbs. It's possible that this provider is there to service female clientele. Rich, bored women, looking for something exciting to fill their days, while the kids are in school and their husband is banging a 20-30 something at work. A massage can relieve so much stress! Maybe that's the answer.
Lobo Karlov
11-08-15, 16:23
I love going to the Executive Relaxation Station in Belevidere IL. I just wish there was a place closer to Chicago that was similar. Does anyone know of a place similar to The Executive that would be closer to the city?
Note sure where to post this.
I had a wonderful 80 minute legit massage from my friend today. As I was lying there I though about Thanksgiving. Seeing family. Sometimes we take it for granted. But then I think about my friend. 50. Divorced. Alone. All of her family in China. She will never see her mother again. She sends her money every week. I met her at a Foot Spa about a year ago. She lost her job in June. Then she moved to Crystal Lake, and quit after a disagreement with the owner. After being out of work for a few weeks, she was desperate. So I went on this board and asked for help from the members. I got a lot of great suggestions and one of them led to this job. So as we approach Thanksgiving, so I wanted to thank you for the help you've given me and her. She is happy, and very grateful.
The place is a Foot Massage place called Feet Feel in Lemont, on Lemont Road just north of 75th street. There's a Burger King nearby. The owners are two Chinese couples. It is by far the nicest foot place I've been to. No private rooms, but it is quite dark and there are dividers, so you don't feel like you are being observed. The place is totally legit, but at $29 for the one hour massage and $20 as a generous tip, (or 80 minutes for $45) it is a real bargain. About 20 minutes are foot massage and the rest of the time is shoulders, head, back. Pants stay on. As I said, it is legit and strict about it. But if you need a good massage it is a good deal. They have something like 8 workers. I'm sure they are all very good.
So next time you see your favorite therapist, wish her well, and wish her family well also. Any kindness you show her will be repaid ten-fold. Thank you again. Bob.Nice story. I'm glad your friend found a job she likes and is happy. Well done.
SouthpawTom
11-08-15, 19:57
I do believe I saw that option listed on the Spa Paris website.From my experience, prostate play at Spa Paris is really just perianal massage. No insertion whatsoever.
SouthpawTom
11-08-15, 20:01
Even with the information from another member, I decided to see if anything could be had. On the flip, as I was caressing her rear and rubbing her shoulders, she took my hand and placed it on my member and asked me if I wanted oil. I said I preferred she used oil. She said no, illegal. I told her I would not tell. There was no convincing. Massage was okay at best. I gave a 20 tip, and she asked for more. I said I do not pay more if I have to take care of myself.
What are the top 1 or 2 things that you particularly enjoy at the ERS?
I love going to the Executive Relaxation Station in Belevidere IL. I just wish there was a place closer to Chicago that was similar. Does anyone know of a place similar to The Executive that would be closer to the city?
DMichaels69
11-08-15, 23:11
I was here a while ago and it was a no go for me. Girl was chubby.
On other sites mongers report success so may require multiple visits.
Even with the information from another member, I decided to see if anything could be had. On the flip, as I was caressing her rear and rubbing her shoulders, she took my hand and placed it on my member and asked me if I wanted oil. I said I preferred she used oil. She said no, illegal. I told her I would not tell. There was no convincing. Massage was okay at best. I gave a 20 tip, and she asked for more. I said I do not pay more if I have to take care of myself.
Member #5028
11-09-15, 12:24
How fake can these pics get? No thanks.I've been there a couple times. I haven't seen all the girls, but from what I've seen, the body shots are real. A couple of the face shots seem real, and a couple seem like fakes that are meant to be a reasonable fascimile. A little pricey, but a really nice time.
Anyone with information on her?
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/lithuanian-massage-therapist/30125583
Search for info here and elsewhere yields no info.
This does NOT appear to be Grace who has been reviewed here.
Any info is appreciated before I make any appointment.
Anyone see her? Any info would be appreciated, cannot find any information here or other sources.
I know a European Therapist Grace has been reviewed here but this does not seem to be her.
Goodtimechicago
11-09-15, 17:37
I've been there a couple times. I haven't seen all the girls, but from what I've seen, the body shots are real. A couple of the face shots seem real, and a couple seem like fakes that are meant to be a reasonable fascimile. A little pricey, but a really nice time.Agree that the pics are close representations of the body and a decent time can be had, but from my experience (three times) for the price, you're better off with enthusiastic service from Logan.
Member #5121
11-10-15, 01:22
Anyone see her? Any info would be appreciated, cannot find any information here or other sources.
I know a European Therapist Grace has been reviewed here but this does not seem to be her.I could swear there was a brief post about this one during the Summer. Reviewer just tore her reputation to sheds, claiming she was dishonest. I don't know what went down, but he seemed utterly disappointed.
It has been years since I visited her. Saw her when she first started. There is not much of a massage available. CBJ or FS is depending on what you pay. Service felt mechanical. Would not repeat but YMMV. Give it a try and report back.
Anyone with information on her?
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/lithuanian-massage-therapist/30125583
Search for info here and elsewhere yields no info.
This does NOT appear to be Grace who has been reviewed here.
Any info is appreciated before I make any appointment.
DMichaels69
11-10-15, 10:49
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-open-1102-trinity-massage-spa-best-asian-massage-and-table-shower-224-465-3342/22833087
This is the old Rivers SPA. I went on Sunday but it was closed. Anyone try this yet?
AsiaLite59
11-10-15, 11:17
Was staying bear O'Hare and stopped for Japanese dinner. Conveniently, Yun Spa was right next door. 70 for an hour session. Nice table shower with lots of attention to the boys, followed by a dry sauna to warm me up on a cool night. Massage was pretty good for 15 minutes and she whispers something in my ear. Not really sure what she said but I knew what she meant. Everything in the menu, and was a great time. No rush or negotiation. She took a fair tip, thanked me, walked me to the door and gave me a kiss. I recommend it. The Korean dessert is nice after the Japanese meal.
I could swear there was a brief post about this one during the Summer. Reviewer just tore her reputation to sheds, claiming she was dishonest. I don't know what went down, but he seemed utterly disappointed.I did look, but maybe missed it, have a few reports already but may look again. Debating on toftt this week, if I do I will report back!
PussyPoker
11-10-15, 12:36
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-open-1102-trinity-massage-spa-best-asian-massage-and-table-shower-224-465-3342/22833087
This is the old Rivers SPA. I went on Sunday but it was closed. Anyone try this yet?Hey the. I went on Sunday also. Was there about 2:00. Newby mistake. Always call first. If they advertise open hours then they should be there during that time. So went to see my friend Candy. She is was close by.
PP.
Flying into Midway have a meeting near the airport then driving 90 minutes west. Any good MPs near Midway. I've got 2 hours to kill before the meeting. PM me if you'd rather -.
The emp in Schaumburg on the corner of Schaumburg & Roselle. Older therapist not very attractive but gets it done.Apologies for the bad info, I'm not great at navigating the suburbs. The location I was referring to is actually on the corner of Schaumburg and plum grove. Small place on the second floor of the strip mall at the south east corner.
Flying into Midway have a meeting near the airport then driving 90 minutes west. Any good MPs near Midway. I've got 2 hours to kill before the meeting. PM me if you'd rather -.I'm too kind. Try Oriental Massage at 6237 S Kedzie Ave. BTW, with 2 posts, try google etc. Consider a favor has been granted.
Apologies for the bad info, I'm not great at navigating the suburbs. The location I was referring to is actually on the corner of Schaumburg and plum grove. Small place on the second floor of the strip mall at the south east corner.Sounds like you are referring to Leah at Golden Hands. I have not had that experience but have enjoyed her massage.
Anyone see her? Any info would be appreciated, cannot find any information here or other sources.
I know a European Therapist Grace has been reviewed here but this does not seem to be her.Not a massage therapist, will give you a back massage for 5 minutes. She will then ask you to turn over and ask you what you want. 20 tip for FS. Out the door within 20 minutes.
DMichaels69
11-12-15, 09:05
Reviews elsewhere are not good.
Not a massage therapist, will give you a back massage for 5 minutes. She will then ask you to turn over and ask you what you want. 20 tip for FS. Out the door within 20 minutes.
Picture accurate and basic price includes HR. Mediocre massage and uninspired extras. I could not keep it up to say the least. But she didn't hold me to the extra tip. Nutshell nice lady, but didn't repeat.
Anyone see her? Any info would be appreciated, cannot find any information here or other sources.
I know a European Therapist Grace has been reviewed here but this does not seem to be her.
SaMitch0312
11-12-15, 12:46
Trinty Massage Spa.
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-open-1102-trinity-massage-spa-best-asian-massage-and-table-shower-224-465-3342/22833087
Hey the. I went on Sunday also. Was there about 2:00. Newby mistake. Always call first. If they advertise open hours then they should be there during that time. So went to see my friend Candy. She is was close by.
PP.Tried this place in Streamwood. I think they are still going through some grand opening issues. No TS yet. But was promised one next time. Other promises made by MT as well that makes me want to return, and I would if I'm around. Overall a really, really nice time. Not comfortable with all the details here.
I'm going to pine or crystal. Where should I go. Today.
Thanks.
WhiteRookDown
11-13-15, 16:51
I'm going to pine or crystal. Where should I go. Today.
Thanks.Neither, if you mean the ones in Willowbrook or Matteson. One rips you off on time, and according to some posts I've read, will lift money as well. The other has mercenary loons who think they have some porn queen skills that I'll drop crazy cash on. I'd go to Ivy in Lombard if they've gone with a new, young talent pool, and especially if they keep the previous team's attitude. The parlors in Tinley Park on 171st and 167th are solid. I don't tolerate nonsense, BS, or dishonesty.
FrankyCando
11-13-15, 19:55
Again. My 4th visit.
Older lady but great massage with the usual great ending $05 w/tip and out the door with a bottled water.
next time I visit I will do a 2 hour massage
On Western just south of Lawrence. and they close late ...I think til 11pm
Elgin Monk Where are you, And where have you Been?
Lots of new stuff your missing out on. Give me a call if you still got my number.
If not email Me.
I'm going to pine or crystal. Where should I go. Today.
Thanks.
You can go wrong. Don't go on a friday Places are both mad houss $$ PAYDAY $$
Picture accurate and basic price includes HR. Mediocre massage and uninspired extras. I could not keep it up to say the least. But she didn't hold me to the extra tip. Nutshell nice lady, but didn't repeat.How in the heck are you doing? Health? I know a Grace She works at Golden in La grange. And Halsted Spa.
Not the same one I don't think. Worth the trip. Thing are really popping In the western burbs.
Call me you for get how? Ha Ha.
SocalHunter
11-13-15, 22:56
....
Older lady but great massage...What do you mean by older lady? 30+?
Member #5008
11-14-15, 08:35
I will be in Carol Stream on business. Can someone tell me about Korean Palace. They have two locations not too far from me. Schaumburg is close to where I'll be during the day.
Anything else good in the area?
I will be in Carol Stream on business. Can someone tell me about Korean Palace. They have two locations not too far from me. Schaumburg is close to where I'll be during the day.
Anything else good in the area?I recommend KP. Usually reliable. Attractive girls. Service ranges from good to great.
Tjinla2001
11-14-15, 13:55
I am taking my annual two week trip to Southern Wisconsin along with time in Chicago. As usual, I will try for an older super high volume Asian who provides BBFS with cip. Of course I will fail, but I am going to give it the old college try.
On my trip back to LA, the same old thing will happen. Once I land, instead of driving south to Orange County. I will head to West Hollywood and have a bareback full session with Jenny at West Therapy because I will be frustrated by lack of success in Chicagoland. Maybe this year will be different.
What do you mean by older lady? 30+?About 30 + 30. If it's the place in mind they're open whenever you call, though if she just woke up the massage suffers. Too much nipple play for me, I'm ticklish.
FrankyCando
11-14-15, 16:47
What do you mean by older lady? 30+?50 plus looking .... Just great massage and usual ending.
btw ...for Asian they can be 50 and look 30 easily ...but not this one
I will be in Carol Stream on business. Can someone tell me about Korean Palace. They have two locations not too far from me. Schaumburg is close to where I'll be during the day.
Anything else good in the area?They screen, seriously screen. If memory serves, they will accept RS2 K members with their I'd #, but others need to supply an image of their business card with a phone number they can call to verify. Others can correct me if I am remembering wrong, but the last time I tried them, that's what I remember being asked for.
DMichaels69
11-15-15, 00:36
I dropped by and Lo and behold guess who is there? Ms JUGS from the Northwest suburbs spa's. She also worked in St Charles at a spa now closed and worked at Moon Spa in Minoka.
I've known her for awhile and she always takes care of me. Very good hard massage to boot. I'd go just for that.
Trinty Massage Spa.
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-open-1102-trinity-massage-spa-best-asian-massage-and-table-shower-224-465-3342/22833087
Tried this place in Streamwood. I think they are still going through some grand opening issues. No TS yet. But was promised one next time. Other promises made by MT as well that makes me want to return, and I would if I'm around. Overall a really, really nice time. Not comfortable with all the details here.
Member #5121
11-15-15, 01:24
Less of a report, more of a curious observation.
I found an upscale Chicago spa that features colonic services. While this is a place that seems to cater to nouveau riche, urban soccer mom's, their colonics therapist looks attractive. A woman pretty enough that I would find the notion of her slipping a water-filled vacuum tube up my ass to be worth the price of admission.
Has any one every partaken in any of these kind of sessions? Is it worth it, or do they treat the process with a state of mild indifference? One of literally having to take out the garbage.
SocalHunter
11-15-15, 03:45
50 plus looking .... Just great massage and usual ending.
Wow 50+ lady, I might as well stay home and use my left hand.
SocalHunter
11-15-15, 03:46
They screen, seriously screen. If memory serves, they will accept RS2 K members with their I'd #, but others need to supply an image of their business card with a phone number they can call to verify. Others can correct me if I am remembering wrong, but the last time I tried them, that's what I remember being asked for.A business card? Doesn't that mean they have something to blackmail you with if they choose to?
Member #5008
11-15-15, 10:07
They screen, seriously screen. If memory serves, they will accept RS2 K members with their I'd #, but others need to supply an image of their business card with a phone number they can call to verify. Others can correct me if I am remembering wrong, but the last time I tried them, that's what I remember being asked for.I filled out the form on the website. If they make it too difficult then it's their loss. Someone from out of town would be a safe bet for them. They can look at your drivers license when you get there etc.
A business card? Doesn't that mean they have something to blackmail you with if they choose to?Yes. Your real name, your home address, your phone number, your place of work. Theoretically they could blackmail you, break up your marriage or relationship, get you fired. Hell it isn't out of the question the police could get them to hand over all that data if they ever get busted. I understand the need to keep the girls safe from creeps and weirdos, but I'm still uncomfortable giving all my data to an agency.
I avoid all those screening websites. You never know who you're giving out your info to. All the providers I've seen have never asked me if I'm on those screening websites. There are plenty of providers and massage girls that don't use those screening websites.
Sam Singer
11-15-15, 15:56
Yes. Your real name, your home address, your phone number, your place of work. Theoretically they could blackmail you, break up your marriage or relationship, get you fired. Hell it isn't out of the question the police could get them to hand over all that data if they ever get busted. I understand the need to keep the girls safe from creeps and weirdos, but I'm still uncomfortable giving all my data to an agency.This is not the right forum to talk about technical issues too much, but there is indeed a way to manage this while providing the necessary anonymity. One can setup a verification service using a system similar to how you see web sites that use 'Login with Facebook'. They essentially outsource the login credentials to FB without really knowing your credentials. You control what you share. (FB is a bad example since they tend to leak too much info by default but just think of that for illustration). This verification agency of course knows who you are on FB but they can create a temporary I'd for you (just like snapchat, it is short living and not recorded anywhere) which you share with those who want to verify you. They can provide an overall score based on how long you have the FB account open, number of wall posts, number of friends etc. That is the value the verification service offers. They can over time fine tune their algorithm so that their score is a good proxy for the 'seal of approval' these agencies look for.
I can actually set one up (meaning it is not that difficult to implement) but doing this just for mongers would not be a good business practice. So if there are other uses for such minimal but anonymous verification then one can operate that as a legitimate service.
May be there is such a service already?
I don't know how sophisticated these folks are, but analogous to a burner phone, you can get a new Google Voice number linked to a new Gmail account. Order business cards at staples for about $20, or Vistaprint for $10. Or use old business cards, or (if you are really a jerk) business card some salesman gave you. The only workaround I can't think of is if you have to give them your drivers license. But, unless you have to give them a photo of your drivers license, it seems pretty simple to get through the screening process. Bob.
This is not the right forum to talk about technical issues too much, but there is indeed a way to manage this while providing the necessary anonymity. One can setup a verification service using a system similar to how you see web sites that use 'Login with Facebook'. They essentially outsource the login credentials to FB without really knowing your credentials. You control what you share. (FB is a bad example since they tend to leak too much info by default but just think of that for illustration). This verification agency of course knows who you are on FB but they can create a temporary I'd for you (just like snapchat, it is short living and not recorded anywhere) which you share with those who want to verify you. They can provide an overall score based on how long you have the FB account open, number of wall posts, number of friends etc. That is the value the verification service offers. They can over time fine tune their algorithm so that their score is a good proxy for the 'seal of approval' these agencies look for.
I can actually set one up (meaning it is not that difficult to implement) but doing this just for mongers would not be a good business practice. So if there are other uses for such minimal but anonymous verification then one can operate that as a legitimate service.
May be there is such a service already?
DMichaels69
11-15-15, 23:18
I would think it would be simple. You want to spend money with their business. No brainer.
I don't know how sophisticated these folks are, but analogous to a burner phone, you can get a new Google Voice number linked to a new Gmail account. Order business cards at staples for about $20, or Vistaprint for $10. Or use old business cards, or (if you are really a jerk) business card some salesman gave you. The only workaround I can't think of is if you have to give them your drivers license. But, unless you have to give them a photo of your drivers license, it seems pretty simple to get through the screening process. Bob.
Went into a spa with street parking off of Archer. Drew a beauty in a red dress. Her name is an anagram of May. Paid 0. 65 for the hour, got a solid 30 min massage, then a few minutes of teasing, I got the call to flip. She asked with hand.
Signs whether I was interested in her to count how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie roll or just a HR. I chose the hand release and she walked to get my wallet and hand it to me (bad sign #1). She said it would.
Be 100. I said no way, how about 40 or 50 if she disrobes. She countered with 80. I started to dress as I don't like this type of forced negotiations. We settled after much back and forth on 70. No doubt that her body is great. I still regret not leaving as $135 dollars.
Goes further elsewhere. I won't return.
Went into a spa with street parking off of Archer. Drew a beauty in a red dress. Her name is an anagram of May. Paid 0. 65 for the hour, got a solid 30 min massage, then a few minutes of teasing, I got the call to flip. She asked with hand.
Signs whether I was interested in her to count how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie roll or just a HR. I chose the hand release and she walked to get my wallet and hand it to me (bad sign #1). She said it would.
Be 100. I said no way, how about 40 or 50 if she disrobes. She countered with 80. I started to dress as I don't like this type of forced negotiations. We settled after much back and forth on 70. No doubt that her body is great. I still regret not leaving as $135 dollars.
Goes further elsewhere. I won't return.Chinatown is dead, IMHO. Time to branch out to the suburbs where 1. 70 can get you an hour of fun.
Member #5028
11-16-15, 17:33
Saw the ad below and googled the number. It suggested that there might be more on the menu than a standard massage. I was wrong. Don't waste your time.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/5310858589.html
Aplayfulone
11-16-15, 20:57
Unfortunately my funds for massages are pretty limited to once a month visit. I have visited, AMP's in Evanston and Skokie and Northbrook, some in Mount Prospect and Buffalo Grove, hoping to come across the women who used to work at the AMP on Devon. Specifically, Sue or Susie, a slender Chinese women probably in her 50's but quite attractive. No luck. If anyone knows it they have opened a new AMP or are working someplace in the Chicago area, I would love to know.
Someone from out of town would be a safe bet for them<< They can look at your drivers license when you get there etc.
One would think wright? I have had the exact opposite reaction. And can almost never get a good ***** to come out. They're always freaked out. You would think even an 847-312-773 area code in a different state would equate to " He has to be an out of towner".
NOPE.
I've been to the one on in Norridge, United Health and Gunnison Spa not too far from the other. Gunnison has a limited menu, United has been better in most regards. There are 2 more in the area that I have not been to and was wondering if there was any reports of either of these.
AMP not sure if they're called CLC that's not the name on street view. Could be a newer place I don't recall seeing anything about this place before.
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/massage-clc-_-new-lineup/25347142
AMP another one I don't recall seeing anything about this one either.
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/early-bird-special-serenity-spa-fantastic-asian-relaxation/30947073
FrankyCando
11-17-15, 18:28
My first visit there....non rushed Good time for $50
was greeted very warmly like as if they knew me by the mamasan ...on the way out mamasan hugs me and asked me how I have been
and that they have not seen me for a while ....dou .....that's when I realize they have mistaken me for someone else ...ahhahahahahaha who out there looks like me ??
hmmmmm I have many 1st cousins (over 20 of them ) more then a few of them resemble me
Member #5028
11-17-15, 18:53
I drive by both of those places all the time. The first one is very public, looks very sketchy, and is right down the street from our uncle. The presence of MPs in that very area has been noted in aldermanic ads in the last election. The other one is right next to another MP and also right at a very busy, very public intersection. Be careful!
I've been to the one on in Norridge, United Health and Gunnison Spa not too far from the other. Gunnison has a limited menu, United has been better in most regards. There are 2 more in the area that I have not been to and was wondering if there was any reports of either of these.
AMP not sure if they're called CLC that's not the name on street view. Could be a newer place I don't recall seeing anything about this place before.
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/massage-clc-_-new-lineup/25347142
AMP another one I don't recall seeing anything about this one either.
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/early-bird-special-serenity-spa-fantastic-asian-relaxation/30947073
I've been to the one on in Norridge, United Health and Gunnison Spa not too far from the other. Gunnison has a limited menu, United has been better in most regards. There are 2 more in the area that I have not been to and was wondering if there was any reports of either of these.
AMP not sure if they're called CLC that's not the name on street view. Could be a newer place I don't recall seeing anything about this place before.
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/massage-clc-_-new-lineup/25347142
AMP another one I don't recall seeing anything about this one either.
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/early-bird-special-serenity-spa-fantastic-asian-relaxation/30947073Been to the Milwaukee one. Tall Japanese mamasan. She's nosey and nervous so she checks you out carefully. I think my first session was with her, titty boinked her for 50. Next session I got early 30's, big chested asian beauty. No English so I'm sure I could have paid whatever because she never said a price, but I donated 100 for the best FS I've had at a AMP. She actually busted out a piece of saran wrap for the glove. I was a little turned off at first, but after using it, I'm a believer. Been back twice since with lackluster results and without seeing the Asian beauty. Didn't catch her name either.
Again. My 4th visit.
Older lady but great massage with the usual great ending $05 w/tip and out the door with a bottled water.
next time I visit I will do a 2 hour massage
On Western just south of Lawrence. and they close late ...I think til 11pmGuy watching door was her husband I assumed. Seemed that way. She is tough on the eyes and wanted 65, not 50 as you wrote. Looked to me like ripoff city so I passed.
HottieHunter42
11-18-15, 01:34
My first visit there....non rushed Good time for $50
was greeted very warmly like as if they knew me by the mamasan ...on the way out mamasan hugs me and asked me how I have been
and that they have not seen me for a while ....dou .....that's when I realize they have mistaken me for someone else ...ahhahahahahaha who out there looks like me ??
hmmmmm I have many 1st cousins (over 20 of them ) more then a few of them resemble meAfter reading tons of favorable reviews about Yun both on here and a couple of other sites, I tried it out myself a few months ago. I must say, I was very unimpressed at the service I received, though in all fairness, it may have been due to the fact that I stopped by there just before closing, so maybe they were tired and ready to call it a day.
I wonder though, if I go back and complain to the mamasan, if they'll give me a discount on a 2nd visit? Always looking for a bargain. .
ReadyForRub
11-18-15, 16:19
Saw the ad below and googled the number. It suggested that there might be more on the menu than a standard massage. I was wrong. Don't waste your time.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/5310858589.htmlWhat gives anyone the idea a massage in "a chiropractor's office" is going to result in the thrill of a lifetime? Read the ad before you "Google" the number.
Where is there any implication of anything more?
What gives anyone the idea a massage in "a chiropractor's office" is going to result in the thrill of a lifetime? Read the ad before you "Google" the number..
FrankyCando
11-18-15, 17:29
Guy watching door was her husband I assumed. Seemed that way. She is tough on the eyes and wanted 65, not 50 as you wrote. Looked to me like ripoff city so I passed.65+40= $05.
Or am I doing that wrong.
Member #5028
11-19-15, 12:23
Where is there any implication of anything more?
.There's no implication in the ad. I took a look at it is because its downtown, and I'm always on the lookout for a legit massage with a surprise HE. So, I googled the number and it pulled up an ad for fetish play. I figured legit massage, possibility of more. Why not take a shot? I'm sure there are other guys who might go through the same process, so I posted this to save them the effort. I thought that's what this board is designed for.
ChicagoCane
11-21-15, 21:34
Has anyone on here ever been done by hongjiao aka kiki aka judy-the owner of the oki doki? Beautiful woman, great legs, beautiful face. Works by appointment or outcall. She used to work at 7th heaven as judy before she bought the oki doki in 2010. I hear she sells great extras. Is she as good as they say?
Evening. Long time lurker first time poster.
I had to join the community. One of my favorites from magic no longer works there. Really bummed me out. Cute young asian went by sunny.
From my point of view that's a hit or miss type of place, depended who attended. Oh well. Time to make a new friend.
Missing my girl at magic. Sunny.
I'd like to catch up.
ChineseDragon
11-23-15, 08:43
Yes had here awhile ago before she left for home also had maggie and she left oki wonder where she went? Great massage and left happy.
Has anyone on here ever been done by hongjiao aka kiki aka judy-the owner of the oki doki? Beautiful woman, great legs, beautiful face. Works by appointment or outcall. She used to work at 7th heaven as judy before she bought the oki doki in 2010. I hear she sells great extras. Is she as good as they say?
I've been to the one on in Norridge, United Health and Gunnison Spa not too far from the other. Gunnison has a limited menu, United has been better in most regards. There are 2 more in the area that I have not been to and was wondering if there was any reports of either of these.
AMP not sure if they're called CLC that's not the name on street view. Could be a newer place I don't recall seeing anything about this place before.
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/massage-clc-_-new-lineup/25347142
AMP another one I don't recall seeing anything about this one either.
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/early-bird-special-serenity-spa-fantastic-asian-relaxation/30947073I'd avoid both. The milwaukee location has gotten mixed reviews over the years. And the Harlem location will never last.
Trinty Massage Spa.
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-open-1102-trinity-massage-spa-best-asian-massage-and-table-shower-224-465-3342/22833087
Tried this place in Streamwood. I think they are still going through some grand opening issues. No TS yet. But was promised one next time. Other promises made by MT as well that makes me want to return, and I would if I'm around. Overall a really, really nice time. Not comfortable with all the details here.I like the location of this place. Hope it lasts.
I've been to the one on in Norridge, United Health and Gunnison Spa not too far from the other. Gunnison has a limited menu, United has been better in most regards. There are 2 more in the area that I have not been to and was wondering if there was any reports of either of these.
AMP not sure if they're called CLC that's not the name on street view. Could be a newer place I don't recall seeing anything about this place before.
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/massage-clc-_-new-lineup/25347142
AMP another one I don't recall seeing anything about this one either.
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/early-bird-special-serenity-spa-fantastic-asian-relaxation/30947073Staying at a hotel in the area for work. I've read up on United Health & Gunnison, not sure if I should visit them. What's the Norridge one?
I might a chance at Serenity next week. Will report if I do.
JohnJohn1972
11-25-15, 10:54
Tried out HQ Spa last week. Received a standard massage and HE. . 5 + . 4 tip. Lady was in her 40's with ok body. Allowed some OTC roaming, but noting else. On the flip she did not rush and was fairly enthusiastic.
I don't live in the area so no plan to repeat.
J.
WhiteRookDown
11-27-15, 11:08
I figured I'd post in the Chicago massage section, as it's the hub of all the surrounding area. I've noticed, especially over the last 4-6 months, a huge decline in the quality of the massage parlor experience. The language barrier seems to be growing, the quality of the actual massage seems to be falling, and the masseuses have taken on a serious belief that their services command more money. In some cases, a LOT more money. I, for one, have just about had enough, to the point where I can stick with 3 or maybe 4 places that I know are worthwhile, or just give it up, and do a visit here and there. I do reviews on another site, and my last 4 reviews there have been bad ones. I spent about $450 on these four visits, one of which was a laughable 4 Hand, and though I'm NOT a broke guy, that remains a lot of money to me. There's a sense of entitlement at these places that is becoming intolerable. I happen to think that a massage business should be run as any other service business (especially with a storefront), and if you can't deliver the service well, at price points that the public feels has value, your doors should close for good. But the "masseuses" in these places are relying on their looks, the desperation of some of the clientele, and the fact that the last ten minutes to half hour of a session contains the Paradise Stroke. Sorry ladies, for this guy, that either doesn't work for or doesn't apply to me. Furthermore, the laziness, lack of assimilation, or whatever factor it is that makes them think they can operate without being able to speak English is ridiculous. No, I will not use a translate feature on a phone to communicate. I have no desire to feel like I'm using the Universal Translator in an episode of "Star Trek". I'm there for an experience, the skilled touch of a woman, and to be treated as if I matter, not as if I'm an ATM. I'm not some Sybaris romantic, rose petals on the floor and scented candles kind of dude. Nor does a massage give me some glowing sense of well being for hours or days. But a well done massage does have some positive effect on me, happy ending or not, and a masseuse I can communicate with adds even more. I believe we as customers are going to have to dig in our heels, demand actual service, and most definitely hold the line on the tipping, including tipping LESS than standard for shoddy service. That is, until our massage standards are met, or until the providers get a dose of reality and understand we can always go somewhere else. Enough is enough.
I figured I'd post in the Chicago massage section, as it's the hub of all the surrounding area. I've noticed, especially over the last 4-6 months, a huge decline in the quality of the massage parlor experience. The language barrier seems to be growing, the quality of the actual massage seems to be falling, and the masseuses have taken on a serious belief that their services command more money. In some cases, a LOT more money. I, for one, have just about had enough, to the point where I can stick with 3 or maybe 4 places that I know are worthwhile, or just give it up, and do a visit here and there. I do reviews on another site, and my last 4 reviews there have been bad ones. I spent about $450 on these four visits, one of which was a laughable 4 Hand, and though I'm NOT a broke guy, that remains a lot of money to me. There's a sense of entitlement at these places that is becoming intolerable. I happen to think that a massage business should be run as any other service business (especially with a storefront), and if you can't deliver the service well, at price points that the public feels has value, your doors should close for good. But the "masseuses" in these places are relying on their looks, the desperation of some of the clientele, and the fact that the last ten minutes to half hour of a session contains the Paradise Stroke. Sorry ladies, for this guy, that either doesn't work for or doesn't apply to me. Furthermore, the laziness, lack of assimilation, or whatever factor it is that makes them think they can operate without being able to speak English is ridiculous. No, I will not use a translate feature on a phone to communicate. I have no desire to feel like I'm using the Universal Translator in an episode of "Star Trek". I'm there for an experience, the skilled touch of a woman, and to be treated as if I matter, not as if I'm an ATM. I'm not some Sybaris romantic, rose petals on the floor and scented candles kind of dude. Nor does a massage give me some glowing sense of well being for hours or days. But a well done massage does have some positive effect on me, happy ending or not, and a masseuse I can communicate with adds even more. I believe we as customers are going to have to dig in our heels, demand actual service, and most definitely hold the line on the tipping, including tipping LESS than standard for shoddy service. That is, until our massage standards are met, or until the providers get a dose of reality and understand we can always go somewhere else. Enough is enough.Service is something we should demand, but demanding a fluency in English, not so much. After all, they're here to earn money, not learn a new language. So, would you rather have a good massage from someone with only passable language skills, or a so-so massage from someone who speaks English flawlessly? Me, I'd rather have the former than the latter.
I figured I'd post in the Chicago massage section, as it's the hub of all the surrounding area. I've noticed, especially over the last 4-6 months, a huge decline in the quality of the massage parlor experience. The language barrier seems to be growing, the quality of the actual massage seems to be falling, and the masseuses have taken on a serious belief that their services command more money. In some cases, a LOT more money. I, for one, have just about had enough, to the point where I can stick with 3 or maybe 4 places that I know are worthwhile, or just give it up, and do a visit here and there. I do reviews on another site...Good thoughts. I agree for the most part and have voted with my feet, so to speak. The rare great session these days gets a special tip. And it is indeed about the entire experience, not simply 3 minutes.
We should all adopt WhiteRook's ideas, in my humble opinion.
Had a nice time at Belmont Spa last week. Good attitude, good session, and not a peep about a tip. I will return often (I hope that their new additions don't ruin a good thing).
I tend to agree with you. I rarely go for a handy anymore. Its either a legit massage or FS. I get a couple legits a week. In fact a foot massage. I stick to mostly older women 40+ because the younger one are untrained and try to get by in their looks. I agree. I stick mostly to people I know. I'm lucky I don't need to use my magic translator much. With my "caveman" quality Chinese I can get by. I agree it is flaky using girls with no language but I blame the owners. Not the girls. If you ask why they came you get some interesting stories. The ones I get along with are all divorced. Lonely. Afraid. When or if you connect with them they blossom into really cool people. That doesn't make your statement untrue. Pergsps you are fishing in the wrong pond. Using the wrong bait. Take care. Bob.
I figured I'd post in the Chicago massage section, as it's the hub of all the surrounding area. I've noticed, especially over the last 4-6 months, a huge decline in the quality of the massage parlor experience. The language barrier seems to be growing, the quality of the actual massage seems to be falling, and the masseuses have taken on a serious belief that their services command more money. In some cases, a LOT more money. I, for one, have just about had enough, to the point where I can stick with 3 or maybe 4 places that I know are worthwhile, or just give it up, and do a visit here and there. I do reviews on another site, and my last 4 reviews there have been bad ones. I spent about $450 on these four visits, one of which was a laughable 4 Hand, and though I'm NOT a broke guy, that remains a lot of money to me. There's a sense of entitlement at these places that is becoming intolerable. I happen to think that a massage business should be run as any other service business (especially with a storefront), and if you can't deliver the service well, at price points that the public feels has value, your doors should close for good. But the "masseuses" in these places are relying on their looks, the desperation of some of the clientele, and the fact that the last ten minutes to half hour of a session contains the Paradise Stroke. Sorry ladies, for this guy, that either doesn't work for or doesn't apply to me. Furthermore, the laziness, lack of assimilation, or whatever factor it is that makes them think they can operate without being able to speak English is ridiculous. No, I will not use a translate feature on a phone to communicate. I have no desire to feel like I'm using the Universal Translator in an episode of "Star Trek". I'm there for an experience, the skilled touch of a woman, and to be treated as if I matter, not as if I'm an ATM. I'm not some Sybaris romantic, rose petals on the floor and scented candles kind of dude. Nor does a massage give me some glowing sense of well being for hours or days. But a well done massage does have some positive effect on me, happy ending or not, and a masseuse I can communicate with adds even more. I believe we as customers are going to have to dig in our heels, demand actual service, and most definitely hold the line on the tipping, including tipping LESS than standard for shoddy service. That is, until our massage standards are met, or until the providers get a dose of reality and understand we can always go somewhere else. Enough is enough.
DMichaels69
11-28-15, 10:33
I have no problem with a friendly negotiation but when its get stupid or obnoxious I'm done.
One lady wanted a buck 50 for the whole menu. I told her what I pay if I want that and she said put the rest on a credit card if needed. I laughed and told her that was not going to happen.
She was older and had a lot of miles too but I'm sure some would pony the money up. So I stick to a few places where I don't get hassled for a tip and the ladies are "normal" because I don't have the patience for that anymore.
I figured I'd post in the Chicago massage section, as it's the hub of all the surrounding area. I've noticed, especially over the last 4-6 months, a huge decline in the quality of the massage parlor experience. The language barrier seems to be growing, the quality of the actual massage seems to be falling, and the masseuses have taken on a serious belief that their services command more money. In some cases, a LOT more money. I, for one, have just about had enough, to the point where I can stick with 3 or maybe 4 places that I know are worthwhile, or just give it up, and do a visit here and there. I do reviews on another site, and my last 4 reviews there have been bad ones. I spent about $450 on these four visits, one of which was a laughable 4 Hand, and though I'm NOT a broke guy, that remains a lot of money to me. There's a sense of entitlement at these places that is becoming intolerable. I happen to think that a massage business should be run as any other service business (especially with a storefront), and if you can't deliver the service well, at price points that the public feels has value, your doors should close for good. But the "masseuses" in these places are relying on their looks, the desperation of some of the clientele, and the fact that the last ten minutes to half hour of a session contains the Paradise Stroke. Sorry ladies, for this guy, that either doesn't work for or doesn't apply to me. Furthermore, the laziness, lack of assimilation, or whatever factor it is that makes them think they can operate without being able to speak English is ridiculous. No, I will not use a translate feature on a phone to communicate. I have no desire to feel like I'm using the Universal Translator in an episode of "Star Trek". I'm there for an experience, the skilled touch of a woman, and to be treated as if I matter, not as if I'm an ATM. I'm not some Sybaris romantic, rose petals on the floor and scented candles kind of dude. Nor does a massage give me some glowing sense of well being for hours or days. But a well done massage does have some positive effect on me, happy ending or not, and a masseuse I can communicate with adds even more. I believe we as customers are going to have to dig in our heels, demand actual service, and most definitely hold the line on the tipping, including tipping LESS than standard for shoddy service. That is, until our massage standards are met, or until the providers get a dose of reality and understand we can always go somewhere else. Enough is enough.
WhiteRookDown
11-28-15, 11:23
Well Castlerae, you make sense, but you're bending my points just a bit. I don't demand "fluency" in English, but I'm perfectly fine with what you call passable language skills. I was talking about the women that speak very little to no English. That's not something I'll accept anymore. If I can't communicate with her about any part of the hour, that's not a choice I'm willing to make or take. Just making my points clear.
Service is something we should demand, but demanding a fluency in English, not so much. After all, they're here to earn money, not learn a new language. So, would you rather have a good massage from someone with only passable language skills, or a so-so massage from someone who speaks English flawlessly? Me, I'd rather have the former than the latter.
I figured I'd post in the Chicago massage section, as it's the hub of all the surrounding area. I've noticed, especially over the last 4-6 months, a huge decline in the quality of the massage parlor experience. The language barrier seems to be growing, the quality of the actual massage seems to be falling, and the masseuses have taken on a serious belief that their services command more money. In some cases, a LOT more money. I, for one, have just about had enough, to the point where I can stick with 3 or maybe 4 places that I know are worthwhile, or just give it up, and do a visit here and there. I do reviews on another site, and my last 4 reviews there have been bad ones. I spent about $450 on these four visits, one of which was a laughable 4 Hand, and though I'm NOT a broke guy, that remains a lot of money to me. There's a sense of entitlement at these places that is becoming intolerable. I happen to think that a massage business should be run as any other service business (especially with a storefront), and if you can't deliver the service well, at price points that the public feels has value, your doors should close for good. But the "masseuses" in these places are relying on their looks, the desperation of some of the clientele, and the fact that the last ten minutes to half hour of a session contains the Paradise Stroke. Sorry ladies, for this guy, that either doesn't work for or doesn't apply to me. Furthermore, the laziness, lack of assimilation, or whatever factor it is that makes them think they can operate without being able to speak English is ridiculous. No, I will not use a translate feature on a phone to communicate. I have no desire to feel like I'm using the Universal Translator in an episode of "Star Trek". I'm there for an experience, the skilled touch of a woman, and to be treated as if I matter, not as if I'm an ATM. I'm not some Sybaris romantic, rose petals on the floor and scented candles kind of dude. Nor does a massage give me some glowing sense of well being for hours or days. But a well done massage does have some positive effect on me, happy ending or not, and a masseuse I can communicate with adds even more. I believe we as customers are going to have to dig in our heels, demand actual service, and most definitely hold the line on the tipping, including tipping LESS than standard for shoddy service. That is, until our massage standards are met, or until the providers get a dose of reality and understand we can always go somewhere else. Enough is enough.I have not been in this hobby very long but I have learned a lot in a short time. Much I have learned from senior members like Bob521, Rocket Dork and DOC. I mostly monger overseas and taken Bob521's advice about treating these ladies with respect. I have three ladies that I have met either at the hotel spa or at a KTV and they stay with me at my hotel when I am in their respective city. No money is exchanged as they are not providing "Services". We have dates just like when I was in my 20"s. We enjoy movies, dinner and other time together. I am 50, the oldest friend is 32 and the newest and youngest is 25. We stay in contact even when I am home in the US. If you understand that many of these women in the US spa's are intimidated by the fact that they do not speak much English, by making an attempt to communicate with them in their language you may very well be rewarded with a better experience. Just yesterday I stopped at a local spa I have not been to before. I have limited Chinese conversation skills but I spoke to her in her language even though her English was quite good. I even showed her photos from my recent trip to Xian and Shanghai. I was able to get her contact information because she became comfortable with me. Was she a 10? No but neither am I. To me looks are not nearly as important as a connection with the other person. The connection is what makes the experience much better. Even when I am overseas I find that the when you are paying for service, the prettier the woman the poorer the experience. What I have ultimately learned is that if you want a GFE experience you need to treat this like an investment. If you keep putting something into it, you will be rewarded with dividends and some of those dividends will not cost you any cash.
DMichaels69
11-28-15, 16:34
Do you eat out for dinner? Do they pay for their own dinner?
I have not been in this hobby very long but I have learned a lot in a short time. Much I have learned from senior members like Bob521, Rocket Dork and DOC. I mostly monger overseas and taken Bob521's advice about treating these ladies with respect. I have three ladies that I have met either at the hotel spa or at a KTV and they stay with me at my hotel when I am in their respective city. No money is exchanged as they are not providing "Services". We have dates just like when I was in my 20"s. We enjoy movies, dinner and other time together. I am 50, the oldest friend is 32 and the newest and youngest is 25. We stay in contact even when I am home in the US. If you understand that many of these women in the US spa's are intimidated by the fact that they do not speak much English, by making an attempt to communicate with them in their language you may very well be rewarded with a better experience. Just yesterday I stopped at a local spa I have not been to before. I have limited Chinese conversation skills but I spoke to her in her language even though her English was quite good. I even showed her photos from my recent trip to Xian and Shanghai. I was able to get her contact information because she became comfortable with me. Was she a 10? No but neither am I. To me looks are not nearly as important as a connection with the other person. The connection is what makes the experience much better. Even when I am overseas I find that the when you are paying for service, the prettier the woman the poorer the experience. What I have ultimately learned is that if you want a GFE experience you need to treat this like an investment. If you keep putting something into it, you will be rewarded with dividends and some of those dividends will not cost you any cash.
WhiteRookDown
11-29-15, 01:01
Again, this really doesn't pertain to my original post. I said nothing about a relationship, and unless they decide to immediately give up stroking cocks for a living, having a relationship is a laughable thought. Many of the women in US spas are intimidated that they do not speak much English? That is strictly their problem, and what are they doing here in that case anyway? I speak Spanish, French, and Italian. I learned them all. When I lived outside of the US, I spoke one of those languages unless someone felt like speaking to me in English. I can't show them pics of Beijing or Shanghai because I never have been there and never will go there. I was speaking of service, the language barrier, and the women's attempt at getting larger and larger tips for more and more lackluster, and lesser services. I was speaking of the fact that we need to stand our ground and get what we pay for, door fee to tip, start to finish. There's also an inference that because I, or we, are critical of bad service, bad attitudes, or a language barrier, that we are not treating these women with respect. That is a ridiculous assumption. And as for "respect", I treat everyone well, until or unless I am not treated well in return. Respect is another thing. Respect from me is earned, not simply given.
I have not been in this hobby very long but I have learned a lot in a short time. Much I have learned from senior members like Bob521, Rocket Dork and DOC. I mostly monger overseas and taken Bob521's advice about treating these ladies with respect. I have three ladies that I have met either at the hotel spa or at a KTV and they stay with me at my hotel when I am in their respective city. No money is exchanged as they are not providing "Services". We have dates just like when I was in my 20"s. We enjoy movies, dinner and other time together. I am 50, the oldest friend is 32 and the newest and youngest is 25. We stay in contact even when I am home in the US. If you understand that many of these women in the US spa's are intimidated by the fact that they do not speak much English, by making an attempt to communicate with them in their language you may very well be rewarded with a better experience. Just yesterday I stopped at a local spa I have not been to before. I have limited Chinese conversation skills but I spoke to her in her language even though her English was quite good. I even showed her photos from my recent trip to Xian and Shanghai. I was able to get her contact information because she became comfortable with me. Was she a 10? No but neither am I. To me looks are not nearly as important as a connection with the other person. The connection is what makes the experience much better. Even when I am overseas I find that the when you are paying for service, the prettier the woman the poorer the experience. What I have ultimately learned is that if you want a GFE experience you need to treat this like an investment. If you keep putting something into it, you will be rewarded with dividends and some of those dividends will not cost you any cash.
Nothing good can come from social relationship with a sex slave from Asia.
All of these are valid points. And we each have slightly different ways to enjoy the hobby. So regardless of your funds. Or ethnic background or language skills. WRD states that too many places have crap service. That's for sure. These shops open up. Girls with looks. But no skills. Greedy. Of course I hate those places. Too many guys get suckered. (In a bad way). Solution is to avoid and tell your friends to avoid.
There are some occasions where a guy will shoot himself in the foot by doing or saying dumb things. Hopefully reading the board will help.
There are places where the girl sets the menu based on her mood or whether she likes the guy. Here again you can improve your mileage by getting her to like you. I'd say that is bad service. But it is reality. So YMMV. You might as well use your skills to improve your mileage.
Then there are regulars. Repeat service. I call them friends. I enjoy getting to know certain women better. I like them as inividuals. Spend time chatting and doing things outside of the AMP. They cook for me. We go places. Although they don't scharge for sex. It is expensive in terms of time and money. Am I a fool for liking so many different women. And still going to new AMPs to meet new people? Of course. None of these relationships can be permanant. I just live in the moment. But three hours of sex with a girl you really like and who really likes you. Well its not so bad. I need that part of it more than a ten minute hand job. But. It takes a toll. Sometimes "no strings attached" is a smarter way to play the game.
We all have our preferences. Bob.
Again, this really doesn't pertain to my original post. I said nothing about a relationship, and unless they decide to immediately give up stroking cocks for a living, having a relationship is a laughable thought. Many of the women in US spas are intimidated that they do not speak much English? That is strictly their problem, and what are they doing here in that case anyway? I speak Spanish, French, and Italian. I learned them all. When I lived outside of the US, I spoke one of those languages unless someone felt like speaking to me in English. I can't show them pics of Beijing or Shanghai because I never have been there and never will go there. I was speaking of service, the language barrier, and the women's attempt at getting larger and larger tips for more and more lackluster, and lesser services. I was speaking of the fact that we need to stand our ground and get what we pay for, door fee to tip, start to finish. There's also an inference that because I, or we, are critical of bad service, bad attitudes, or a language barrier, that we are not treating these women with respect. That is a ridiculous assumption. And as for "respect", I treat everyone well, until or unless I am not treated well in return. Respect is another thing. Respect from me is earned, not simply given.
Interesting that you can get it all with no money exchange. BTW, what is KTV?
I have three ladies that I have met either at the hotel spa or at a KTV and they stay with me at my hotel when I am in their respective city. No money is exchanged as they are not providing "Services".
DivingDeep
11-29-15, 13:23
Interesting that you can get it all with no money exchange. BTW, what is KTV?KTV's a Chinese karaoke bar. Unlike the typical American karaoke setup in the middle of a public bar area, you get a private room. Couches, TV, karaoke setup. They'll bring a in a lineup of girls that you can choose from and they'll keep you company while you're there. The one and only time I went, they'd stay for a while, leave for a bit, and then come back. They'll sing along, sit on your lap, and flirt with you. Touching is encouraged and take out was on the menu, if you waited to close and if the girl was willing.
WhiteRookDown
11-29-15, 13:33
This spectacular specimen of a woman has apparently opened her own spa in the South Loop. You MUST check her ad on CL. LOL I'd probably pay her to eat a soft serve vanilla ice cream cone on a hot day. Not sure that I'll be able to try her out, for personal reasons, so somebody MUST try her out and file a report. Men, I know this will be difficult, but I have faith the courage to do so can be summoned.
I guess my Belmont Spa comments got lost in this current thread (which is very good reading).
In my opinion, quickly becoming the go to place in the Lakeview area. I'll swap info with anyone who is interested. But there are reviews out there. Too many places going down the tubes these days, so the good ones are worth a mention.
Head First
11-29-15, 17:47
Then there are regulars. Repeat service. I call them friends. I enjoy getting to know certain women better. I like them as inividuals. Spend time chatting and doing things outside of the AMP. They cook for me. We go places. Although they don't scharge for sex. It is expensive in terms of time and money.
Am I a fool for liking so many different women. And still going to new AMPs to meet new people? Of course. None of these relationships can be permanant. I just live in the moment. But three hours of sex with a girl you really like and who really likes you. Well its not so bad. I need that part of it more than a ten minute hand job. But. It takes a toll. Sometimes "no strings attached" is a smarter way to play the game.
We all have our preferences. Bob.The older we get the more we realize that some day it's all going to end. And when it does I for one would much rather look back and have regrets for some things I DID do rather than for some things I DIDN'T do. Keep living in the moment Bob. Play on Player.
Wirelessone
11-29-15, 21:33
For example Bob521 gave us a way to communicate with Chinese massage parlor workers to put them at ease so we can fuck them, or have them give us blowjobs. Additionally since massaging, sucking and fucking girls have a tendency to move around alot, WeChat will let a monger keep abreast of that girl so he can go find her at the next place of employment.
Since this forum is about sex, very few of us care about English or their massage skill. The level of skill was never pointing up for it to be suddenly heading downhill. The parlor is a meeting place so that I can have them blow me. What's next. ? You will want us to band together and demand they produce their 1099 statement, business license, proof of graduation from an accredited massage therapy school? Should I make these demands before or after coitus?
What would be a different kind of post from you, is you posting a review of an experience, preferably sexual in nature of where you went, how much you paid and a description of the girl ending with whether or not you will return.
So contribute your sexual experiences to the forum and take one for the team. If you want to rate and complain about engrish skills or poor massage skills, that's what yelp dot com is for.
DMichaels69
11-29-15, 23:49
WRD is providing insight and commentary as a lot of the posts are not about outings at a spa. You yourself have rambled on in posts having nothing to do with any outings at a spa.
So don't beat up on WRD.
For example Bob521 gave us a way to communicate with Chinese massage parlor workers to put them at ease so we can fuck them, or have them give us blowjobs. Additionally since massaging, sucking and fucking girls have a tendency to move around alot, WeChat will let a monger keep abreast of that girl so he can go find her at the next place of employment.
Since this forum is about sex, very few of us care about English or their massage skill. The level of skill was never pointing up for it to be suddenly heading downhill. The parlor is a meeting place so that I can have them blow me. What's next. ? You will want us to band together and demand they produce their 1099 statement, business license, proof of graduation from an accredited massage therapy school? Should I make these demands before or after coitus?
What would be a different kind of post from you, is you posting a review of an experience, preferably sexual in nature of where you went, how much you paid and a description of the girl ending with whether or not you will return.
So contribute your sexual experiences to the forum and take one for the team. If you want to rate and complain about engrish skills or poor massage skills, that's what yelp dot com is for.
WhiteRookDown
11-30-15, 01:21
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Just for the record, I was in agreement with WRD. Every guy on this board has his favorite places, where the outcome is fairly assured. Or where there are certain people they have rapport with. None of us likes to go to a place where the girl is greedy or puts in a lame effort. Massage or extras. What to do about that problem is largely the purpose of the board. And, on a related note, I will attempt to make an appointment to see Minie, a LMT suggested by WRD about three or four posts down. She seems legit, but I enjoy the chase just as much as the finale. Bob.
WRD is providing insight and commentary as a lot of the posts are not about outings at a spa. You yourself have rambled on in posts having nothing to do with any outings at a spa.
So don't beat up on WRD.
Anybody know a massage spot that uses a sukebe chair instead of the table shower or stand up shower?
Do you eat out for dinner? Do they pay for their own dinner?Spending money for dinner is not required although it is always offered. My girlfriend in Shanghai brings me dinner often and when we go out she rarely chooses and expensive western restaurant. She is VERY conservative about me spending money. I will go to buy a bottle of water and she will scold me and say. " we have water in the hotel room". I offer to take her shopping or buy her groceries and she says she does not need. The newest has a very good job on her own and is just looking for companionship. I met her at a KTV and before my host asked if I would like to take her back to my hotel, she told me that she wanted to go to my hotel but to wait until the next night. She knew the KTV would charge at least $500 US for her to accompany me. The following week I took her to a nice dinner and she spent the next two days with me. All in all a good investment in my mind. And NO I did not pay her or the KTV any money. Do not get me wrong. This does not happen very often, I have just been very lucky. I have also paid for a lot of pussy during my travels and only 10% of the time has it really been an experience worth paying for.
Nothing good can come from social relationship with a sex slave from Asia.If you are having sex with them then you are in fact having a social relationship. Whether money is exchanged or not.
Again, this really doesn't pertain to my original post. I said nothing about a relationship, and unless they decide to immediately give up stroking cocks for a living, having a relationship is a laughable thought. Many of the women in US spas are intimidated that they do not speak much English? That is strictly their problem, and what are they doing here in that case anyway? I speak Spanish, French, and Italian. I learned them all. When I lived outside of the US, I spoke one of those languages unless someone felt like speaking to me in English. I can't show them pics of Beijing or Shanghai because I never have been there and never will go there. I was speaking of service, the language barrier, and the women's attempt at getting larger and larger tips for more and more lackluster, and lesser services. I was speaking of the fact that we need to stand our ground and get what we pay for, door fee to tip, start to finish. There's also an inference that because I, or we, are critical of bad service, bad attitudes, or a language barrier, that we are not treating these women with respect. That is a ridiculous assumption. And as for "respect", I treat everyone well, until or unless I am not treated well in return. Respect is another thing. Respect from me is earned, not simply given.Sorry if I misread your post or got off topic.
If you are having sex with them then you are in fact having a social relationship. Whether money is exchanged or not.Don't tell Mr. PP that, if it's not strictly a business relationship he will not show up.
I guess I'm too young. I'm pretty good looking and 21 yrs old. I went to this place on Gunnison because of the good reviews. I arrived to the place and the mamasan gave me a weird look. She told me they are busy for the next 40 minutes. Then she asked how old am I and I replied 21. I thought everythings going to be fine and I walked around the block for the next 40 min. When I came back I saw a girl that works there. She was sitting on the couch and called mamasan when I came. Mamasan came and told me they were closed LOL. I lost 2 hours because I had to take a bus there and then I walked 40 min around the block but they just wanted to get rid of me. I guess I was looking too suspicious. Well, I got to wait a couple more years I guess but its hard when I have a babyface. LOL. On the other hand I still have this place on Belmont and can't say a one bad word about it. But I got a little bored and wanted to try something new.
Bob, thanks for the new info. Increased my fun at certain spas 10 fold! Best info I've heard in years!
E66, you speak truth. The right word and a little chemistry opens doors. But not everyone knows how to or wants to get with the flow. Too bad.
Cast and RD, my brothers always rockin the truth. And sharing info. Always big thanks to you both for the years of experience.
Balance. Give a little and get a lot. But for sure hold the line on bad service and paying over the standard rate. And if something works for someone else why hate on them? No one said you have to do what they do. You have something that works for you then bravo.
Thanks one and all. Something to be learned on every post.
Whatever those Korean grocery stores are called. They are swarming with chicks your age wanting to get laid. There were some posts about meeting girls this way. Guys, please add suggestions to the ones I noted below. SykesCora, read back on the topic. AveJoe has some good posts on these stores. There are others was well.
You have the advantage being a good looking guy. Put Kakao talk Google Translate, and Wechat on your phone. There are posts about that as well. Just be relaxed. Friendly. Smile. If I was going to attempt this (which I don't think I will) I'd have a cart of something and buy or pretend to buy buying fruit or vegetables. Spot a nice girl picking out fruit. Make eye contact. Ask her a question about how to select some fruit or vegetable. Then, (I guess) say you are not too experienced with cooking. Maybe ask a cooking question. If you are REALLY lucky, she will engage in conversation and she might offer to cook for you. All I can say is it is like fishing with lightweight line. Take your time. Don't pull too hard. If she does cook for you, don't push for sex until she gives the opening. The key in any event is to allow her to make the first move. Just smile. If she smiles back you have a shot. All we ask is that you let us know if you succeed. Bob.
I guess I'm too young. I'm pretty good looking and 21 yrs old. I went to this place on Gunnison because of the good reviews. I arrived to the place and the mamasan gave me a weird look. She told me they are busy for the next 40 minutes. Then she asked how old am I and I replied 21. I thought everythings going to be fine and I walked around the block for the next 40 min. When I came back I saw a girl that works there. She was sitting on the couch and called mamasan when I came. Mamasan came and told me they were closed LOL. I lost 2 hours because I had to take a bus there and then I walked 40 min around the block but they just wanted to get rid of me. I guess I was looking too suspicious. Well, I got to wait a couple more years I guess but its hard when I have a babyface. LOL. On the other hand I still have this place on Belmont and can't say a one bad word about it. But I got a little bored and wanted to try something new.
WhiteRookDown
12-01-15, 10:47
While looking over CL, look what I found:
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/5338876147.html
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/5338674996.html
All this sounds like dating. The whole point of paying is to avoid dating. So you can just get fucked and not have to "connect" or "be patient. ".
Dating is great. And relationships are great. This forum shouldn't be about dating tips though.
Whatever those Korean grocery stores are called. They are swarming with chicks your age wanting to get laid. There were some posts about meeting girls this way. Guys, please add suggestions to the ones I noted below. SykesCora, read back on the topic. AveJoe has some good posts on these stores. There are others was well.
You have the advantage being a good looking guy. Put Kakao talk Google Translate, and Wechat on your phone. There are posts about that as well. Just be relaxed. Friendly. Smile. If I was going to attempt this (which I don't think I will) I'd have a cart of something and buy or pretend to buy buying fruit or vegetables. Spot a nice girl picking out fruit. Make eye contact. Ask her a question about how to select some fruit or vegetable. Then, (I guess) say you are not too experienced with cooking. Maybe ask a cooking question. If you are REALLY lucky, she will engage in conversation and she might offer to cook for you. All I can say is it is like fishing with lightweight line. Take your time. Don't pull too hard. If she does cook for you, don't push for sex until she gives the opening. The key in any event is to allow her to make the first move. Just smile. If she smiles back you have a shot. All we ask is that you let us know if you succeed. Bob.
I guess my Belmont Spa comments got lost in this current thread (which is very good reading).
In my opinion, quickly becoming the go to place in the Lakeview area. I'll swap info with anyone who is interested. But there are reviews out there. Too many places going down the tubes these days, so the good ones are worth a mention.Thanks for reposting about Belmont, Miamiat. I'm a south sider, but was having drinks with a friend just down the road on Belmont. So paid a visit and by sheer luck, happened to draw an old friend I hadn't seen in a few years.
Left happy enough, and am quite unsure if more is available. But likely will further explore at some point.
Feel free to PM if interested in more info.
HeadFirst80
12-02-15, 09:01
I wanted to try a new place but she cancelled on me last minute (previous customer extended time). So on way back visited Yedam. Mamasan recognized me and thanks to the forum I was able to use backdoor (to the facility). Mamasan said there is a "new girl" if I could wait 5 minutes in the room, which I did.
Looks was ok (seemed to have a lot of mileage on), mid 40's. Very good massage skills and full menu was available with standard pricing.
Finished few minutes before time, once I pointed out there's still time, she went ahead and gave me massage for the remainder of the time.
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Put up a post telling guys not to post information-->Permanent Moderation.
Cops don't use our forum to find out where guys are getting hand jobs. They look for MP's that chicks don't go into. Then they send UC's in.
Don't post that crap here, we didn't start this forum so you guys can have a PM system. You don't have to post anything you don't want to. What you can't do is tell guys, or infer that, they shouldn't.
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DMichaels69
12-03-15, 07:33
Thanks Admin!
Put up a post telling guys not to post information-->Permanent Moderation.
Cops don't use our forum to find out where guys are getting hand jobs. They look for MP's that chicks don't go into. Then they send UC's in.
Don't post that crap here, we didn't start this forum so you guys can have a PM system. You don't have to post anything you don't want to. What you can't do is tell guys, or infer that, they shouldn't.
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ApplePiePussy
12-03-15, 18:43
While looking over CL, look what I found:
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/5338876147.html
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/5338674996.htmlGood time?
ChineseDragon
12-03-15, 19:35
Not sure if this is the place to post. Got offered full service from 18 yr old. She's cute but baby fat.
Wants $500 for one pop. What you guys think. Thanks my inclination to say no way.
WhiteRookDown
12-04-15, 00:12
I haven't visited. I found the pics to be quite fine, figured I'd share.
Good time?
Not sure if this is the place to post. Got offered full service from 18 yr old. She's cute but baby fat.
Wants $500 for one pop. What you guys think. Thanks my inclination to say no way.No way!
If you pay it then she will tell her friends how much she is getting and then they will want to start charging the same and the prices will start going up. She can ask whatever she wants, but what she wants and what she gets are 2 different things. I would bargain her down. Alot.
Rocket Dork
12-04-15, 09:00
Not sure if this is the place to post. Got offered full service from 18 yr old. She's cute but baby fat.
Wants $500 for one pop. What you guys think. Thanks my inclination to say no way.No again! Rocket Dork.
No way. Price is wrong. And she is too young, even if she is really 18. And if she's not, you could end up in deep shit. She is potentially a really messed up chick.
Update: I Just saw ChineseDragon post in Backpage forum with the same pitch: Not sure if this is right spot. Need advice got offered full service by 19 yr old cute with some baby fat. She wants $$ for one pop. I think that's way too high. Any suggestions? ?
So we probably should take these questions with a grain of salt, and more likely a way to pitch a service.
Bob.
Not sure if this is the place to post. Got offered full service from 18 yr old. She's cute but baby fat.
Wants $500 for one pop. What you guys think. Thanks my inclination to say no way.
WhiteRookDown
12-04-15, 11:06
Fine detective work there, Bob521.
No way. Price is wrong. And she is too young, even if she is really 18. And if she's not, you could end up in deep shit. She is potentially a really messed up chick.
Update: I Just saw ChineseDragon post in Backpage forum with the same pitch: Not sure if this is right spot. Need advice got offered full service by 19 yr old cute with some baby fat. She wants $$ for one pop. I think that's way too high. Any suggestions? ?
So we probably should take these questions with a grain of salt, and more likely a way to pitch a service.
Bob.
CoolPatrick
12-04-15, 14:17
No way. Price is wrong. And she is too young, even if she is really 18. And if she's not, you could end up in deep shit. She is potentially a really messed up chick.
Update: I Just saw ChineseDragon post in Backpage forum with the same pitch: Not sure if this is right spot. Need advice got offered full service by 19 yr old cute with some baby fat. She wants $$ for one pop. I think that's way too high. Any suggestions? ?
So we probably should take these questions with a grain of salt, and more likely a way to pitch a service.
Bob.Once I saw the discussion here I deleted my response to this dragon under BP thread. There is a thread called General Reports for such inquires. And there is not much details about whatever providers he mentioned, so maybe RTFF would be the best advice. .
Follow your inclination.
Not sure if this is the place to post. Got offered full service from 18 yr old. She's cute but baby fat.
Wants $500 for one pop. What you guys think. Thanks my inclination to say no way.
Not sure if this is the place to post. Got offered full service from 18 yr old. She's cute but baby fat.
Wants $500 for one pop. What you guys think. Thanks my inclination to say no way.Is this just straight sex? No greek? No other 'extra' type services? If the answers are "Yes, no and no. " then the only way it would be worth that much would be if she was offering you the chance to be her first, and that's unlikely. I'd say pass.
ChicagoCane
12-04-15, 22:36
Not sure if this is the place to post. Got offered full service from 18 yr old. She's cute but baby fat.
Wants $500 for one pop. What you guys think. Thanks my inclination to say no way.Chinese dragon- why don't you just go back to kiki aka hongjiao at oki doki & bid 210 USD all in for a 1 hr massage, TS, & CFS. - jesus--she is gorgeous & has an awesome pussy. Isn't that a fair price & a much better deal?
PussyPoker
12-05-15, 00:25
I was driving down Irving Park Rd today and seen a sign for a new massage place. Magic 88 Spa. Has anyone been there yet? I my go on Sunday.
How many veteran mongers remember the place at 3703 W. Irving Park Rd. I loved that mamason. She always gave me the best girl she had. (the $20 dollar tip may have helped out). She would call to tell me she had a new girl and she would get 20 bucks.
PP.
Ratherbshootin
12-05-15, 10:47
Stopped by a couple of weeks ago, got She She (Cece?) middle aged plump girl. Tons of teasing and lots of flirting during an above average massage. Opted to finish with the table shower as I wanted any oils washed off. Had to self finish while she played with the nuts, would not do the stroking for me. Also not a stitch of her clothing was removed or able to be penetrated. Like she was wearing a suit of armor.
Not sure if this is the place to post. Got offered full service from 18 yr old. She's cute but baby fat.
Wants $500 for one pop. What you guys think. Thanks my inclination to say no way.No chance- way too much!
Can I say groupon on here? Anyway, this spa is offering one, just say you were going to get it and they'll give you the 42 price for hour. Called ahead but got mixed answers on their hours. Had henni (I think). No questions, plenty of roam, standard. Guy at front desk sometimes. Pain in back was not cured, but good place. Why they don't shave off that 2 is beyond me. Would make it so much easier than having to dig out two ones.
PiratePrentice
12-06-15, 23:15
I haven't visited. I found the pics to be quite fine, figured I'd share.I TOFTT with Ruby. She is definitely the gal in pics (gorgeous). One of the best massages I've ever gotten from a total fox (I have found that, typically, the hotter the gal, the weaker the massage, but definitely not the case here). As far as I can tell from that first visit, she is totally legit. I gave all the regular signs that I was looking for extras but she kept it legit and I respect that. I would definitely repeat whenever I'm in the mood for a legit massage from a gorgeous gal.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/5338876147.html
ChineseDragon
12-06-15, 23:18
You are correct and knowledgeable. I haven't gotten around there.
Chinese dragon- why don't you just go back to kiki aka hongjiao at oki doki & bid 210 USD all in for a 1 hr massage, TS, & CFS. - jesus--she is gorgeous & has an awesome pussy. Isn't that a fair price & a much better deal?
I'm going to be visiting Chicago for the first time ever in early Feb. Do you all have any suggestions for an AMP around the Hyatt Regency at McCormick Place?
Thanks in advance.
That's near Chinatown, five minutes away. So check around there. Bob.
I'm going to be visiting Chicago for the first time ever in early Feb. Do you all have any suggestions for an AMP around the Hyatt Regency at McCormick Place?
Thanks in advance.
Saw this new ad. Looks like Gunnison has new owners?
Robert Gou2
12-09-15, 13:11
Can I say groupon on here? Anyway, this spa is offering one, just say you were going to get it and they'll give you the 42 price for hour. Called ahead but got mixed answers on their hours. Had henni (I think). No questions, plenty of roam, standard. Guy at front desk sometimes. Pain in back was not cured, but good place. Why they don't shave off that 2 is beyond me. Would make it so much easier than having to dig out two ones.Would you be so kind to share the name of the place? OD? I don't see any groupons for oki doki. PM if you must.
FrankyCando
12-09-15, 21:15
Saw this new ad. Looks like Gunnison has new owners?And open a bit later now. Have to stop in. Maybe tonight.
Would you be so kind to share the name of the place? OD? I don't see any groupons for oki doki. PM if you must.The name is od. The other key search term is "groupon".
Would you be so kind to share the name of the place? OD? I don't see any groupons for oki doki. PM if you must.You have not reviewed anything but sure have a lot of questions. The spa is easy to find on groupon, it's name has OD in it. It's not on the first page of groupons, sometimes you have give more than a glance at a site. Try http://www.odwellnesschicago.com/ .
Robert Gou2
12-10-15, 13:13
At BeBop I thought he was using OD as initials for something. Have you ever looked at the Chicago groupin page specifically for massages? There's like a thousand goddamn places on there.
And yes I have reviewed. And it's not like he left an explicit post about a place and I just jumped in like "hey man tell me the name of the place" he was talking about a place offering a groupon and I asked which one so ctfo.
I have some reviews. They were mentioned on here. Then everything went quiet. That's a great sign of something that people want to keep around. Should I post them? On another note. If you're wondering what type of place you're going to. If the door is lcked or have to ring a bell. You've arrived. That has been my experience. There have been exceptions though.
Finger.
I'm tiring of the asians for now and want to venture out for Latina black maybe white. But I don't want lazy. Does anyone have a recommendation? You can pm me. I can tell you about 5-6 parlors I'm familiar with on the south side. South side preferred as I lived there.
Finger.
Pm me seniors. 3 girls. I went to two others that sucked they got signs and shit massage only. I wouldn't tip the ***** and left at one. She was going to cry but the massage sucked and no extra forget it. I'm not a AMP guy so I have no heart.
BabyBoy2013
12-11-15, 16:46
Stopped by Oki today and met Selena 25 cute face OK body. Got the hour for 70. Table shower was included she did a nice job. Massage was descent maybe an #8 for swedish. She was talkative and friendly. On to the flip and this is when it sucked, she started asking for stupid donation. 8 for HJ, $50, for head LOL. I said no thank you, she started coming down on the rate but the moment was killed. She walked out kinda mad but oh well. I got dressed and left gave her the usual tip for the massage. This place was pricey so I don't think I'll be returning. Stay safe gents.
ChineseDragon
12-12-15, 00:23
She's outrageous in her pricing. I had her before. Turned me off on the place.
Stopped by Oki today and met Selena 25 cute face OK body. Got the hour for 70. Table shower was included she did a nice job. Massage was descent maybe an #8 for swedish. She was talkative and friendly. On to the flip and this is when it sucked, she started asking for stupid donation. 8 for HJ, $50, for head LOL. I said no thank you, she started coming down on the rate but the moment was killed. She walked out kinda mad but oh well. I got dressed and left gave her the usual tip for the massage. This place was pricey so I don't think I'll be returning. Stay safe gents.
I love me some Latina ladies, but the consistently want too much on the up sell. There is a place around 111th and ridgeland. The have black and Latinas from time to time. Never been there yet, out of my way. Then spa Paris I'm markham, but you won't get what you want. I like Polish Barbie. I always have a good time and value.
I sat stay away from Stacey in Matteson. Kinda of lazy and uninspired. Won't repeat.
I'm tiring of the asians for now and want to venture out for Latina black maybe white. But I don't want lazy. Does anyone have a recommendation? You can pm me. I can tell you about 5-6 parlors I'm familiar with on the south side. South side preferred as I lived there.
Finger.
DMichaels69
12-12-15, 11:05
Excellent Bro! Let her be mad and maybe she will get her head out of her butt on pricing.
She's outrageous in her pricing. I had her before. Turned me off on the place.
Stopped by Oki today and met Selena 25 cute face OK body. Got the hour for 70. Table shower was included she did a nice job. Massage was descent maybe an #8 for swedish. She was talkative and friendly. On to the flip and this is when it sucked, she started asking for stupid donation. 8 for HJ, $50, for head LOL. I said no thank you, she started coming down on the rate but the moment was killed. She walked out kinda mad but oh well. I got dressed and left gave her the usual tip for the massage. This place was pricey so I don't think I'll be returning. Stay safe gents.
OF Charlie
12-12-15, 12:15
For old timers who enjoyed Giana's service from Logan, she is now working in the below location. If the below link is not working, go to the body rub section of BP and search keyword Harlem and Addison. For new guys, do a little search and you can find reviews here. Enjoy!
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/60-todays-special/31787477
Kaptain Kool
12-12-15, 21:50
Stopped by Oki today and met Selena 25 cute face OK body. Got the hour for 70. Table shower was included she did a nice job. Massage was descent maybe an #8 for swedish. She was talkative and friendly. On to the flip and this is when it sucked, she started asking for stupid donation. 8 for HJ, $50, for head LOL. I said no thank you, she started coming down on the rate but the moment was killed. She walked out kinda mad but oh well. I got dressed and left gave her the usual tip for the massage. This place was pricey so I don't think I'll be returning. Stay safe gents.I had a very similar experience at S&L on Michigan today. 70 for massage, and the therapist (I didn't get a name) asked me what I wanted. I asked for this and that and then she told me she only does standard finish. Why even ask then? She wanted 80 and I countered with 60 with top off, and she said that 60 was ok, but top stays on. I said next time then, so she settled on 50 but by this point, after all the negotiating, I wasn't having it anymore so I said no. She seemed upset but who cares? I got shorted 15 minutes, got dressed, tipped 10 and left. This is good guys. I learned here on this forum to stand my ground, and if we all keep doing this, things can only get better for all of us.
DMichaels69
12-13-15, 01:23
I walk if they play these I am a princess BS games. Too many other spas who don't do that.
I had a very similar experience at S&L on Michigan today. 70 for massage, and the therapist (I didn't get a name) asked me what I wanted. I asked for this and that and then she told me she only does standard finish. Why even ask then? She wanted 80 and I countered with 60 with top off, and she said that 60 was ok, but top stays on. I said next time then, so she settled on 50 but by this point, after all the negotiating, I wasn't having it anymore so I said no. She seemed upset but who cares? I got shorted 15 minutes, got dressed, tipped 10 and left. This is good guys. I learned here on this forum to stand my ground, and if we all keep doing this, things can only get better for all of us.
WhiteRookDown
12-13-15, 12:17
I second dmichaels69's observation. He and I tend to be some of the strongest proponents of taking a sledgehammer to the BS we're facing more and more in the market. You did exactly the right thing. Hell, I've hit the door leaving zero tip and never thought twice about it. They ruin my experience, I can easily ruin their time, too. Well played, Kaptain!
I had a very similar experience at S&L on Michigan today. 70 for massage, and the therapist (I didn't get a name) asked me what I wanted. I asked for this and that and then she told me she only does standard finish. Why even ask then? She wanted 80 and I countered with 60 with top off, and she said that 60 was ok, but top stays on. I said next time then, so she settled on 50 but by this point, after all the negotiating, I wasn't having it anymore so I said no. She seemed upset but who cares? I got shorted 15 minutes, got dressed, tipped 10 and left. This is good guys. I learned here on this forum to stand my ground, and if we all keep doing this, things can only get better for all of us.
I second dmichaels69's observation. He and I tend to be some of the strongest proponents of taking a sledgehammer to the BS we're facing more and more in the market. You did exactly the right thing. Hell, I've hit the door leaving zero tip and never thought twice about it. They ruin my experience, I can easily ruin their time, too. Well played, Kaptain!I do worry about what happens to the talent if they feel like they can get paid more in other cities. These girls travel frequently as you all well know. I would hate to deprive the area of talent and force the best girls to go to cities where they command a premium, especially cities that have a lower cost of living than Chicago does (and probably less of a LE hassle too).
Then again, they do have limited choices where they can work, they can't just walk in somewhere and say "I'm your new talent". They have to know someone.
That said I take dmichaels advice on this point. Although I don't get annoyed by the negotiating game, I just don't play it. Here's what I pay, here's what I would like from you, if that doesn't work for you, that's OK, no one owes anyone any explanations, I'll be on my way.
For reasons I don't actually understand, I rarely get negotiated. I think it is because I gravitate mostly toward older (30,40,50 year old) Chinese women and establish a rapport on the first visit. They are not really the top level young girls. And they have limited language. But I went to this place Jun Spa last year. Wolf and Kensington in Mt Prospect. After three visits worked my way up to full nude massage and DATY with a girl from New York. Not reciprocal BJ. Just HE. Gave her $60. She pouted. Frankly, I think $60 was generous by $10. Anyway. I said nothing. Never returned. So I voted with my feet. Bob.
I do worry about what happens to the talent if they feel like they can get paid more in other cities. These girls travel frequently as you all well know. I would hate to deprive the area of talent and force the best girls to go to cities where they command a premium, especially cities that have a lower cost of living than Chicago does (and probably less of a LE hassle too).
Then again, they do have limited choices where they can work, they can't just walk in somewhere and say "I'm your new talent". They have to know someone.
That said I take dmichaels advice on this point. Although I don't get annoyed by the negotiating game, I just don't play it. Here's what I pay, here's what I would like from you, if that doesn't work for you, that's OK, no one owes anyone any explanations, I'll be on my way.
It turns out that OD has limited staff (Hannah) and you might just get one of the OGs from across the street: Judy, Anna, Sophia. They fill in when Hannah is busy.
Could be worse. All good in their own ways. Judy is the outlier.
I agree with this as well. I am one that is rarely negotiated with as well. And when I am, I automatically say "never mind" and have a smile on my face the whole time. Hell, I even refuse if they ask me to pay first. I'm laying there naked on a table and you expect me to get up and fumble around in the dark to get money? Forget that. That's a huge boner killer for me. Again, I politely say "never mind" or "no thanks" and am never a jerk about it.
On the flip side of that, I will tip over the standard amount if the girl goes above and beyond the level of service or even if she is super friendly. An extra 10 or 20 won't break me, but the girl will remember me on future visits.
That said I take dmichaels advice on this point. Although I don't get annoyed by the negotiating game, I just don't play it. Here's what I pay, here's what I would like from you, if that doesn't work for you, that's OK, no one owes anyone any explanations, I'll be on my way.
Same here. This is the best policy. Theres no need to be a jerk about things. They have a price that they think they hospitality is worth and I have a price I'm willing to pay for it. Its all "extras" anyhow. So I don't feel any obligation to pay what I don't want to, and certainly don't expect them to give me things they don't feel they were paid what they want to be paid for it for. Usually, but not always, it ends up working out and they would rather get 80 for a blow job than 0 dollars for no blow job instead of holding out for the 100-120 they wanted for it.
If theyre willing to blow or fuck or jerk me off, theye arent going to hold out for 20-40 extra dollars when they realized that its only 10 minutes of their time anyhow and they could have 80 bucks rather than 0 (BJ) or 40 bucks rather than 0 (HJ) or 100-120 rather than 0 (FS). And if its not worth their time. Thats cool with me too. No hard feelings. Everyone gets to set their own price.
I agree with this as well. I am one that is rarely negotiated with as well. And when I am, I automatically say "never mind" and have a smile on my face the whole time. Hell, I even refuse if they ask me to pay first. I'm laying there naked on a table and you expect me to get up and fumble around in the dark to get money? Forget that. That's a huge boner killer for me. Again, I politely say "never mind" or "no thanks" and am never a jerk about it.
On the flip side of that, I will tip over the standard amount if the girl goes above and beyond the level of service or even if she is super friendly. An extra 10 or 20 won't break me, but the girl will remember me on future visits.
George W. Bush
12-15-15, 00:58
Attitudes change when you tell the girl to leave and send someone else in. Only had to threaten this a couple of times, but the girls change in a heartbeat. I've also had a few that were so overpriced I told them forget about it, got dressed, and left without a tip. It's not like I'm going to see them again anyway. I pay, and pay well after the deed is done for good service but it's not a flea market and I'm not there to haggle or be asked to pay in advance.
Rocket Dork
12-15-15, 09:35
Same here. This is the best policy. Theres no need to be a jerk about things. They have a price that they think they hospitality is worth and I have a price I'm willing to pay for it. Its all "extras" anyhow. So I don't feel any obligation to pay what I don't want to, and certainly don't expect them to give me things they don't feel they were paid what they want to be paid for it for. Usually, but not always, it ends up working out and they would rather get 80 for a blow job than 0 dollars for no blow job instead of holding out for the 100-120 they wanted for it.
If theyre willing to blow or fuck or jerk me off, theye arent going to hold out for 20-40 extra dollars when they realized that its only 10 minutes of their time anyhow and they could have 80 bucks rather than 0 (BJ) or 40 bucks rather than 0 (HJ) or 100-120 rather than 0 (FS). And if its not worth their time. Thats cool with me too. No hard feelings. Everyone gets to set their own price.I am never a jerk. Its a business deal and I have the money. They get a lot of money for maybe 7-10 minutes of work. I just leave with no tip and hopefully (probably not) the provider gets the message. Rocket Dork.
NiceChicaGaGuy
12-15-15, 12:30
I love me some Latina ladies, but the consistently want too much on the up sell. There is a place around 111th and ridgeland. The have black and Latinas from time to time. Never been there yet, out of my way. Then spa Paris I'm markham, but you won't get what you want. I like Polish Barbie. I always have a good time and value.
I sat stay away from Stacey in Matteson. Kinda of lazy and uninspired. Won't repeat.My only concern with that place is that there is not much going on in Chicago Ridge, and Chicago Ridge LEO is certain to find some way to spend their time, such as busting the poor schmucks that go there.
They get a lot of money for maybe 7-10 minutes of work.
This is my stance too. The fucking upsell for topless or full nude? Give me a break. My face is in the dirt for 90% of the session. You guys paying these outrageous better wake up.
My only concern with that place is that there is not much going on in Chicago Ridge, and Chicago Ridge LEO is certain to find some way to spend their time, such as busting the poor schmucks that go there.It has been open for quite some time. One can only wonder why some places stay open and others close. I have a tendency to think it's more the neighbors complaining than the cops. My. 02.
Finger.
Not sure if this should be posted here or not so I will try to brief.
I will be at the McCormick Center in next month for a convention. Looking for AMP's in the area. A few years ago, I went driving blindly into the city and found a couple off of Archer I think it was. Are those still around? What are the chances to get into an apartment if there are any in the area. What kind of screening do they require? We are just starting to get the apartment scene here in Minneapolis and I have yet to try them out due to out of town travel.
Thanks in advance for any tips someone can give.
Member #5028
12-15-15, 23:22
I am never a jerk. Its a business deal and I have the money. They get a lot of money for maybe 7-10 minutes of work. I just leave with no tip and hopefully (probably not) the provider gets the message. Rocket Dork.I'm with you, except I'll give a small tip if the massage was decent. In my (relatively few) experiences at AMPs, the massages are generally much better than at other places where you're hoping to leave happy. So, if the girl gave a not-half-bad massage for the. 6 or. 8 door fee, I'm not going to totally stiff her. If she says she wants another. 8 for the handshake, I just say "no thanks" and go. Haggling isn't what I want to do there. I leave her a sawbuck and I'm on my way.
If you are at McCormick, Chinatown is five minutes away. There are two AMPs on Archer just past the Walgreens on the right side of the road. I've been in both. I tend to suspect they will not meet your needs. I'm sure other members can steer you to a good place. There is one called Mercy Acupuncture that is on 333 North Michigan (Near Millennium Park - Not Chinatown, in case you are headed into the city). And for Chinatown, I checked a rub map-oriented review site and saw Ruby Spa / 312-968-1668/2971 S Archer Ave / Chicago, IL, 60608 and Archer Spa / 773-847-9808/3181 S Archer Ave / Chicago, IL, 60608. These had recent, and a large number of reviews with a 4-star average ratings. But I have no personal knowledge. I doubt that first time visitors automatically get FS at any of these sites. But, for what its worth, the Chinese places do treat the massage part of the experience pretty seriously. As for Apartments, the only ones I've been to are the personal residences of my friends. Again, other members will have better advice. Good luck. Please report back if you find a decent place. Bob.
Not sure if this should be posted here or not so I will try to brief.
I will be at the McCormick Center in next month for a convention. Looking for AMP's in the area. A few years ago, I went driving blindly into the city and found a couple off of Archer I think it was. Are those still around? What are the chances to get into an apartment if there are any in the area. What kind of screening do they require? We are just starting to get the apartment scene here in Minneapolis and I have yet to try them out due to out of town travel.
Thanks in advance for any tips someone can give.
Jameson290
12-16-15, 00:51
For old timers who enjoyed Giana's service from Logan, she is now working in the below location. If the below link is not working, go to the body rub section of BP and search keyword Harlem and Addison. For new guys, do a little search and you can find reviews here. Enjoy!
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/60-todays-special/31787477You've had good experiences? I was going to try. Never met her. Will report back. James.
If you are at McCormick, Chinatown is five minutes away. There are two AMPs on Archer just past the Walgreens on the right side of the road. I've been in both. I tend to suspect they will not meet your needs. I'm sure other members can steer you to a good place. There is one called Mercy Acupuncture that is on 333 North Michigan (Near Millennium Park - Not Chinatown, in case you are headed into the city). And for Chinatown, I checked a rub map-oriented review site and saw Ruby Spa / 312-968-1668/2971 S Archer Ave / Chicago, IL, 60608 and Archer Spa / 773-847-9808/3181 S Archer Ave / Chicago, IL, 60608. These had recent, and a large number of reviews with a 4-star average ratings. But I have no personal knowledge. I doubt that first time visitors automatically get FS at any of these sites. But, for what its worth, the Chinese places do treat the massage part of the experience pretty seriously. As for Apartments, the only ones I've been to are the personal residences of my friends. Again, other members will have better advice. Good luck. Please report back if you find a decent place. Bob.Thank you for this Bob!
Are you a member of the rub-map review site by chance? I was years ago, but seemed to find all the listing over promised and under delivered, making them fairly worthless. I believe that it was Ruby I visited a few years ago when at the last convention. I don't recall an specific detail, which leads me to believe that it was a sub-par visit. I am a VIP on The othEr Review site, but nothing really jumps out for the location that I am looking for.
Again, Thank You Bob, I appreciate your input, I will continue searching and report back positive or negative info as I find it.
I'm not a member of Rub or MP Reviews. I can't really leave a paper trail of payments. In any event, those two sites are acceptable used for free. Just make inferences about number of reviews and how recent, and the tip, etc. I don't try as many new places as I once did. Frankly the commentary on USASEXGUIDE is vastly more useful than those other sites. You just have to read. The problem with any AMP (especially Chinese ones) is your mileage improves if visit frequently and get to know individual girls. If you are willing to drive 25 miles, go to Yun spa in Mt Prospect. That would be my pick in the area. Maybe 15 minutes from ORD, for what it's worth. Bob.
Thank you for this Bob!
Are you a member of the rub-map review site by chance? I was years ago, but seemed to find all the listing over promised and under delivered, making them fairly worthless. I believe that it was Ruby I visited a few years ago when at the last convention. I don't recall an specific detail, which leads me to believe that it was a sub-par visit. I am a VIP on The othEr Review site, but nothing really jumps out for the location that I am looking for.
Again, Thank You Bob, I appreciate your input, I will continue searching and report back positive or negative info as I find it.
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