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Nighthawk1955
03-31-12, 14:23
I'm visiting the area for a couple of days and wanted to get a good massage. I read the reviews, and did a search and not much came up for 2012. If anyone has any suggestions or insight for a indie girl (preffered) or spa anywhere around 83 & 64 in Elmhurst, or ever nearby I'd appreciate.

Thanks from an Atlanta Monger!For spas you are out of luck. Incall or delivery are your options.

Ghostface89
03-31-12, 14:42
I live in Oak Park (hence my user name) and I can tell you that it's a legit place. No extras. There's also a place across the street called Well-Come Spa; never been inside but it also seems legit. I've said this before but I doubt if the village will allow anything extra to go on, given its conservative reputation.Oak Park probably has per capita as many left-wing Marxists as the Hyde Park neighborhood. The reason they would be against traditional massage parlors (like you find in Asia) is that they are infected by the Femi-nazi brand of political thought. True conservatives are libertarians and feel this is none of the government's business. Oak Park with its unconstitutional gun bans and far-left politicians should never be referred to as "conservative." (Unless you feel that Joe Stalin was a conservative.)

Pussy Prowler
03-31-12, 23:02
Amazing touch wellness? Their ads have been on BP for awhile now, their staff is constantly changing and their website has no photos of staff anymore. Strange that on their website the male members (or mongers) have their pics up and made a profile, if those are indeed real or maybe just fake ones to make them seem legit? I remember seeing a picture of "violet" and wanted to make an appointment with her, I've called and left vm's on 5 separate occasions in the last 2 months and NEVER have I even recieved a call back. Anyone have any luck?

Thanks

http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/amazing-tantra-amazing-skills-amazing-ladies-21/7330034

Doogie0039
04-01-12, 09:43
Amazing touch wellness? Their ads have been on BP for awhile now, their staff is constantly changing and their website has no photos of staff anymore. Strange that on their website the male members (or mongers) have their pics up and made a profile, if those are indeed real or maybe just fake ones to make them seem legit? I remember seeing a picture of "violet" and wanted to make an appointment with her, I've called and left vm's on 5 separate occasions in the last 2 months and NEVER have I even recieved a call back. Anyone have any luck?

Thanks.

http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/amazing-tantra-amazing-skills-amazing-ladies-21/7330034They do not return VMs so I would recommend calling until a girl answers. I have been to this place over a hand full of times over the past year and half and my experience varies on the girls that are available. My favorite girl V'nessa is no longer working with this group. I have tried calling a couple of times to see if I recognize any of the new girls names and I have not recognized so I have taken the risk. My gut is telling me that they are taking a conservative approach and the talent will not be the same. Anyone else have a different recent experience?

Outtatheloop
04-01-12, 17:49
Dearest Monger brethren, trying to find a report somewhere here withing the last three months that included a massage with an option for greek. Believe the location was the nw suburbs. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

CTmongerX1
04-01-12, 21:22
[QUOTE=Atl Lost Soul; 1415334]I'm visiting the area for a couple of days and wanted to get a good massage. I read the reviews, and did a search and not much came up for 2012. If anyone has any suggestions or insight for a indie girl (preffered) or spa anywhere around 83 & 64 in Elmhurst.

Just avoid any place nearby on Lake Street, the road of jack shacks. Go south on I355 for Maple Spa, one of my favorites. Also, many apartments advertised nearby, usually the ones listed with 847 area codes. Most spas that area now legit. And as we have all learned, RTFF.

CTm

OPIllini
04-02-12, 18:29
Oak Park probably has per capita as many left-wing Marxists as the Hyde Park neighborhood. The reason they would be against traditional massage parlors (like you find in Asia) is that they are infected by the Femi-nazi brand of political thought. True conservatives are libertarians and feel this is none of the government's business. Oak Park with its unconstitutional gun bans and far-left politicians should never be referred to as "conservative." (Unless you feel that Joe Stalin was a conservative.)You're right, it's not conservative as I made it out to be, but at the same time it doesn't seem to be a place where "extra activities" would be going on in the few MPs there.

With that said, I TOFTT yesterday at a place across the street from the place that's been advertised in BP. This place is called Well-Come Spa (908 S. Oak Park Ave.). What I found out that it's mainly a manicure / pedicure spot (besides offering chair and full body massages) , so most of the clientle is female. Against my better judgement I tried it anyway for 1/2 hour (.45). The massage was actually great, but the MT (mid-20s and decent-looking) gave no teases and no hints at extras) , and when I tried the classic leg caress she would move away quickly. I gave a. 1 tip for a great massage, but I won't back.

Looks like I've got to stick to the city spas and United (though I may try Gunnison and New Look soon).

OPIllini
04-02-12, 18:36
http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/bacp/supp_info/weekly_hearing_schedules.htmlThis week Eclipse and Massage Threapy on Peterson have hearings. And Rahmbo / Dart strike again. We'll be lucky at the end of the year if we've got half the number of spas remaining still open. And supposedly the city feels a lot safer thanks to these potential closings. NOT!

SamPerkins420
04-03-12, 13:38
This week Eclipse and Massage Threapy on Peterson have hearings. And Rahmbo / Dart strike again. We'll be lucky at the end of the year if we've got half the number of spas remaining still open. And supposedly the city feels a lot safer thanks to these potential closings. NOT!Incredible. While this city burns to the ground on the south side, Rahm focuses money and attention on busting jackshacks on the northside. Doesn't he realize that the guys that go to those are the ones paying the highest taxes here, which fund his voter demographic in places like Englewood, Austin, Gresham, etc?

No he just doesn't care. He would rather pander to the black reverends than actually demand that black citizens on the south side stop shooting each other. Over 125 murders in this city through less than 100 days this year, over 90% of the dead are black, and yet they think it makes sense to bust an asian handie spa that isn't hurting anybody, over going into the southside and arresting & locking up the gangbangers. But I guess a convicted felon can't vote, so Rahm needs those bangers & storefront revruns even more!

SamPerkins420
04-03-12, 13:45
Is that a place worth going into? I went once a few years ago, had a gorgeous Euro, she was flirty but nothing happened. I'm willing to give it one more try, but is there any likelihood I leave "happy?"

Nighthawk1955
04-03-12, 17:19
Incredible. While this city burns to the ground on the south side, Rahm focuses money and attention on busting jackshacks on the northside. Doesn't he realize that the guys that go to those are the ones paying the highest taxes here, which fund his voter demographic in places like Englewood, Austin, Gresham, etc?

No he just doesn't care. He would rather pander to the black reverends than actually demand that black citizens on the south side stop shooting each other. Over 125 murders in this city through less than 100 days this year, over 90% of the dead are black, and yet they think it makes sense to bust an asian handie spa that isn't hurting anybody, over going into the southside and arresting & locking up the gangbangers. But I guess a convicted felon can't vote, so Rahm needs those bangers & storefront revruns even more!Those murders happen because the Chicago power structure WANT them to happen Same reason the spas are getting busted.

I knew this would happen. The spas have no one to blame but themselves. When spas popped up all over the place, you knew there would be a correction.

It is not like this isn't still going on. It just shifted to the Apts.

Casper27
04-03-12, 22:19
Incredible. While this city burns to the ground on the south side, Rahm focuses money and attention on busting jackshacks on the northside. Doesn't he realize that the guys that go to those are the ones paying the highest taxes here, which fund his voter demographic in places like Englewood, Austin, Gresham, etc?

No he just doesn't care. He would rather pander to the black reverends than actually demand that black citizens on the south side stop shooting each other. Over 125 murders in this city through less than 100 days this year, over 90% of the dead are black, and yet they think it makes sense to bust an asian handie spa that isn't hurting anybody, over going into the southside and arresting & locking up the gangbangers. But I guess a convicted felon can't vote, so Rahm needs those bangers & storefront revruns even more!The North side has nothing compared to the south side in terms of gangs which is probably why they go after the MPs. They practically wiped out the SW and where I stay the alderman took care of the war between the gangs by putting up a bunch of cameras. The area seems great compared to other neighborhoods but damn its expensive to live in it. I've never been one to complain about the gangs cause I was in one. All I can say is the south side will keep burning until they all kill each other off. What should be done is transferring more of those pigs on the North side and sending them to patrol the south side. Gentrification was what ultimately took care of the gangs on the North side. Humboldt park is trying to fight it when they should be fighting the savages killing each other. The problem started with Daley pissing away money fixing up downtown building a damn park with a shiny bean in it. The money for all the shit he did should have been spent on pigs patrolling the south side. Ramhbo should have the g8 members take a night tour of the south side so they can see what a great city Chicago is. Well I'm done I'm going to go watch some porn and give myself a hand shake, left hand with the lights dimmed. LOL

Casper27
04-03-12, 23:12
The places to get a massage and tug are drying up. So today I tried someone who was new to me she has been reviewed here before I think back in 09. Anyways what I read was she ends it with a HJ. Others say she only does the massage. I went this evening and went for the hour it was just the massage which felt great. I was out. 60 and she looked much more better than her pics. I couldn't stop staring at her legs and ass. I would have liked for it to end more happily but it was my first time. I will return for another massage because it felt great. She told me she is now doing this full time while she looks for another part time job. Said she was working in a bar but quit. I will enjoy the massage being how much cheaper it is in comparison to other places. If I get a chance to have a conversation as somthing more than a client than I'd like to convince her to do some extras for more money. It will be easier and faster money. I'd be glad to put down a bill $ to have quickie with her. If I get a happy ending any time in the future ill report back to seniors. For now ill be going to her for a good massage. The money I save seeing her ill spend on a better than average looking escort. I have an Asian apt. Near me but the woman there is too old I'd rather pull it myself when I think about seeing her and paying $20

SamPerkins420
04-04-12, 14:10
Is that a place worth going into? I went once a few years ago, had a gorgeous Euro, she was flirty but nothing happened. I'm willing to give it one more try, but is there any likelihood I leave "happy?"Well to reply to myself, it's not.

I found ads for them on both CL, and on BP under "adult" section. And it mentions,"many beautiful women available." I printed the coupon from CL for $45 for the hour (I learned early on, bring exact change. Whether or not legit, the never have change for the twenties if you show up with $60) , and the coupon includes mention of a table shower.

I called ahead & made an afternoon appointment. When I got there, I asked for the $45 hour + table shower, and was told the table shower "not working" (funny, when I called to make the appointment for 1 hour + TS, she didn't mention it was not working). That should have been my first tip off that nothing would happen.

The Polish girl who massaged me was really hot, but there was no chance at all of anything good happening. The massage was above average, but I was pissed about how misleading the place was. Whatever, only cost me $45, I refused to tip for no extras, and it was a decent massage.

Gbaby31
04-04-12, 15:54
If anyone use to hit up the latin girls apt. On 13st and K* they moved to 26th, I went and checked them out, only 2 girls were working the more "americanized" one who sounds ghetto alittle chubby. Anyways I stopped in. 35 half hour they don't do full hrs. But with there extras you are usally there longer so its a bit of a deal. Anyways massage was a 2-3 very poor. They do HJ FOR. 40 BJ. 90 and and hour I think 1. 20 so your best bet is grab a cute girl hit up the hour. I took the HJ she was shy which I liked over all skill was 7 worked the balls everything let my hands roam. Also they have a deal on wensday $10 off if you go there so. 25 for the half hour and 1. 20 FS not bad especially if you get a young girl age range 19-24 no old nasty chicks all young fresh to the US latinas and that works for me. I'm open to trade for some SW or other massage places.

Gbaby31
04-04-12, 16:01
Does anyone know the number to the massage house that was on Fulerton and pulaski. House was on pulaski, they had 2latinas 1 blk girl. Rates where. 45 and hour. BJ FS HJ everything went. They called me awhile back saying they moved and lsot the number if anyone has info please message me!

RSmith1980
04-04-12, 18:31
If anyone use to hit up the latin girls apt. On 13st and K* they moved to 26th, I went and checked them out, only 2 girls were working the more "americanized" one who sounds ghetto alittle chubby. Anyways I stopped in. 35 half hour they don't do full hrs. But with there extras you are usally there longer so its a bit of a deal. Anyways massage was a 2-3 very poor. They do HJ FOR. 40 BJ. 90 and and hour I think 1. 20 so your best bet is grab a cute girl hit up the hour. I took the HJ she was shy which I liked over all skill was 7 worked the balls everything let my hands roam. Also they have a deal on wensday $10 off if you go there so. 25 for the half hour and 1. 20 FS not bad especially if you get a young girl age range 19-24 no old nasty chicks all young fresh to the US latinas and that works for me. I'm open to trade for some SW or other massage places.I would like the number to this provider, I know of a Latin apt providers near Cermak and Kedzie. I have numbers and personal reviews of two other Latin massage providers.

OPIllini
04-04-12, 21:04
Incredible. While this city burns to the ground on the south side, Rahm focuses money and attention on busting jackshacks on the northside. Doesn't he realize that the guys that go to those are the ones paying the highest taxes here, which fund his voter demographic in places like Englewood, Austin, Gresham, etc?

No he just doesn't care. He would rather pander to the black reverends than actually demand that black citizens on the south side stop shooting each other. Over 125 murders in this city through less than 100 days this year, over 90% of the dead are black, and yet they think it makes sense to bust an asian handie spa that isn't hurting anybody, over going into the southside and arresting & locking up the gangbangers. But I guess a convicted felon can't vote, so Rahm needs those bangers & storefront revruns even more!
The North side has nothing compared to the south side in terms of gangs which is probably why they go after the MPs. They practically wiped out the SW and where I stay the alderman took care of the war between the gangs by putting up a bunch of cameras. The area seems great compared to other neighborhoods but damn its expensive to live in it. I've never been one to complain about the gangs cause I was in one. All I can say is the south side will keep burning until they all kill each other off. What should be done is transferring more of those pigs on the North side and sending them to patrol the south side. Gentrification was what ultimately took care of the gangs on the North side. Humboldt park is trying to fight it when they should be fighting the savages killing each other. The problem started with Daley pissing away money fixing up downtown building a damn park with a shiny bean in it. The money for all the shit he did should have been spent on pigs patrolling the south side. Ramhbo should have the g8 members take a night tour of the south side so they can see what a great city Chicago is. Well I'm done I'm going to go watch some porn and give myself a hand shake, left hand with the lights dimmed. LOL
Those murders happen because the Chicago power structure WANT them to happen Same reason the spas are getting busted.

I knew this would happen. The spas have no one to blame but themselves. When spas popped up all over the place, you knew there would be a correction.

It is not like this isn't still going on. It just shifted to the Apts.Samp, Casper, and Nighthawk, you just put it in perspective with your posts. I don't live in the city anymore but it's sad that Rahmbo spends money he really doesn't have on a NATO meeting (just to give Chicago a renowned international rep, which. By the way. It already has) , but doesn't put enough resources into stopping the violence terrorizing the South Side (and the West Side too). They talk about war zones in Afghanistan and Iraq, Chicago's inner city's got its' own war zones. You think all the murder count so far this year is staggering? Just wait til summer gets here.

The point is, I'm sure Rahmbo and Dart have much more pressing concerns that are being ignored in order to harass businesses who haven't hurt or killed anyone and that serve as an escape from reality for those who frequent them. As I said in my last post, we'll be lucky if half the number of remaining AMPs / LMPs in Chicago are still open by the end of the year. And for what? Does anyone really believe for a second that raiding and closing these places makes the communities feel safer? I don't think so. For the most part, the people that work in MPs are good, hard-working folk. And no matter what LEO does, they can NEVER get rid of this activity completely. They close one spot, another opens up somewhere else, and on and on. In short, they're fighting a losing battle here. The battle against mayhem in the streets is what LEO should be focused on, not closing places that serve a good purpose.

Okay, I'm done ranting, but this is so frustrating to see all these hearings and closings / potential closings of our favorite AMPs / LMPs.

OPIllini
04-04-12, 21:15
Alice's on Wentworth (3/22) , City Massage on 31st (3/9) , Lavish (2/2) have all had their licenses revoked this year, and though they were already closed, Elegant (1/4) and K&M (1/12) finally lost their licenses this year. It is getting harder to find good AMPs / LMPs in Chicago, and I'm sure the ones that are left are operating extra cautiously these days.

Wirelessone
04-04-12, 22:03
I went to the spa were she works and didn't get the vibe that she was there. I saw Jay, older asian but who gave me probably the best covered French lesson ever. Too old for me to want to do full service with. Door fee is. 7 and the hoover lesson was $. Will call and see if dee dee has returned and will repost.

Imwithstupid
04-04-12, 23:54
Samp, Casper, and Nighthawk, you just put it in perspective with your posts. I don't live in the city anymore but it's sad that Rahmbo spends money he really doesn't have on a NATO meeting (just to give Chicago a renowned international rep, which. By the way. It already has) , but doesn't put enough resources into stopping the violence terrorizing the South Side (and the West Side too). They talk about war zones in Afghanistan and Iraq, Chicago's inner city's got its' own war zones. You think all the murder count so far this year is staggering? Just wait til summer gets here.

The point is, I'm sure Rahmbo and Dart have much more pressing concerns that are being ignored in order to harass businesses who haven't hurt or killed anyone and that serve as an escape from reality for those who frequent them. As I said in my last post, we'll be lucky if half the number of remaining AMPs / LMPs in Chicago are still open by the end of the year. And for what? Does anyone really believe for a second that raiding and closing these places makes the communities feel safer? I don't think so. For the most part, the people that work in MPs are good, hard-working folk. And no matter what LEO does, they can NEVER get rid of this activity completely. They close one spot, another opens up somewhere else, and on and on. In short, they're fighting a losing battle here. The battle against mayhem in the streets is what LEO should be focused on, not closing places that serve a good purpose.

Okay, I'm done ranting, but this is so frustrating to see all these hearings and closings / potential closings of our favorite AMPs / LMPs.The way Rahmbo and Dart want to flex their clout outside Crook county with tougher STATE gun laws, and in Darts case raiding a "puppy mill" outside his juridiction down by Kankakee, they may start going after every MP in northern Illinois.

Fredspy
04-05-12, 13:16
Mei at Unwind has been on "vacation" for some time now. Does anyone know if / where she is working now?

PM if you would like, if information is shared in confidence then I will not forward it without permission.

Perhaps she is taking clients outside of a spa? .

Thanks!

Fred

Mercedes100
04-06-12, 09:35
Does anyone know the number to the massage house that was on Fulerton and pulaski. House was on pulaski, they had 2latinas 1 blk girl. Rates where. 45 and hour. BJ FS HJ everything went. They called me awhile back saying they moved and lsot the number if anyone has info please message me!They moved to Austin and Addison on the second floor. PM me for the info if you do not have it already.

M100

Casper27
04-06-12, 10:56
Alice's on Wentworth (3/22) , City Massage on 31st (3/9) , Lavish (2/2) have all had their licenses revoked this year, and though they were already closed, Elegant (1/4) and K&M (1/12) finally lost their licenses this year. It is getting harder to find good AMPs / LMPs in Chicago, and I'm sure the ones that are left are operating extra cautiously these days.Walked by yesterday after paying the cell bill. Noticed two Windows covered and the door was uncovered I could see only the floor its where the sofa used to be. I saw no orange sign but the place seemed empty.

Wj0272
04-06-12, 20:29
I'll be downtown Chi, in a couple of weeks. Anyone recommend a incall place or person? I've been to Archer st and hoping to find something closer and better downtown area. PM me, thanks from the Badger state.

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04-07-12, 01:48
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Senken
04-07-12, 02:43
And friends passing by Archer, Ave. Into the massage, I do massage 1 hour 60 do 25 minutes massage lady called me to do it or not hand 70 s x 200 100 Miss chest today noon Asians to the store gun robberyIf you go to this place careful shop robbery object.

Senken
04-07-12, 11:21
I passed the Arecher Ave. Into the massage found was a brothel, it is sure to turn off.

Senken
04-07-12, 12:56
Ruby archer Ave. Place to get massage place I to want to do all the waitress dark is a good tip lady told meWhich is brothel he just happened to rob this place to turn it off.

Member #5121
04-07-12, 18:06
Samperkins420,

I went to this Tat's location ages ago. For the table shower, it was nice, but the cute Ukrainian requested that I wear their swim trunks. With Euro girls, nothing will happen on your 1st visit.


Well to reply to myself, it's not.

I found ads for them on both CL, and on BP under "adult" section. And it mentions,"many beautiful women available." I printed the coupon from CL for $45 for the hour (I learned early on, bring exact change. Whether or not legit, the never have change for the twenties if you show up with $60) , and the coupon includes mention of a table shower.

I called ahead & made an afternoon appointment. When I got there, I asked for the $45 hour + table shower, and was told the table shower "not working" (funny, when I called to make the appointment for 1 hour + TS, she didn't mention it was not working). That should have been my first tip off that nothing would happen.

The Polish girl who massaged me was really hot, but there was no chance at all of anything good happening. The massage was above average, but I was pissed about how misleading the place was. Whatever, only cost me $45, I refused to tip for no extras, and it was a decent massage.

OPIllini
04-07-12, 19:34
And friends passing by Archer, Ave. Into the massage, I do massage 1 hour 60 do 25 minutes massage lady called me to do it or not hand 70 s x 200 100 Miss chest today noon Asians to the store gun robberyIf you go to this place careful shop robbery object.
I passed the Arecher Ave. Into the massage found was a brothel, it is sure to turn off.
Ruby archer Ave. Place to get massage place I to want to do all the waitress dark is a good tip lady told meWhich is brothel he just happened to rob this place to turn it off.What are you trying to tell us? Your posts make no sense whatsoever. Are you saying Ruby's was robbed recently? And as far as you calling Ruby's a brothel, given the. Hot climate these days I doubt that any Chicagoland AMP will offer such services - that's an invite for LEO to shut the place down.

JimJames
04-07-12, 22:05
Ruby archer Ave. Place to get massage place I to want to do all the waitress dark is a good tip lady told meWhich is brothel he just happened to rob this place to turn it off.What? Did you go to public schools?

JJ

Reinaldo23
04-08-12, 14:29
They moved to Austin and Addison on the second floor. PM me for the info if you do not have it already.

M100Any way you could pm me this info too?

Toosweet1975
04-08-12, 19:32
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/let-me-work-my-magic-on-you-new-therapist-26/8865278

I have been to this place a couple of times. But no luck of extras. But I must say. A certain gal there is the most beautiful woman I have ever had a massage by. But the actual massage was about a 6 maybe a 7 because she brushed against my boys a couple of times.

http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/high-qualit-body2body-6000-today-hott-sexy-gorgeous-25/11033096

Pros and cons to this place. Not really customer friendly over the phone. Tried one time. 2 call service. Once to set up the appointment and twice to give me the exact address. The first time I tried to set up an appointment was disappointing. They never picked up the phone on the second call. But because of great reviews from this place. I had to try it again. And this time was much better luck. 3 gorgeous woman to choose from. Complete GFE with a pretty good massage for $2. A little pricey and I told them that and she said next time it will be much lower. Maybe she liked me, LOL. I had a great time. Will go back. Next time I must choose AVA. Oh one more thing. Please bring your own covers. Just saying. Please be safe out there.

And last but not least. A certain Gorgeous lady from The Logan SQuare Spa. All I will say on here is. Complete, anything Goes GFE for $.7. I know I said Yumi was the best when it comes to attitude and customer service and Just being real. But this certain one really is on the top of my TO DO LIST and she is best out there to me. I hope nothing happens to these Gals. Because they treat us right. We need to treat them right.

Please be safe out there. You guys help me out a lot. I try to do the same when I can.

Happy Hunting!

genuis8
04-08-12, 20:50
An acquaintance of mine told me today that in the last week, someone robbed at gunpoint 3 spas along Archer Ave (in order, XINDY, RUBY, and the one after RUBY). Seems that it was the same guy. 30s looking and spoke Chinese (or is Chinese). Robbed the workers. Don't know if any guests were there at the time.

Casper27
04-09-12, 00:10
I haven't responded back to seniors. I was trying to find a little more info about the woman that I'm now going to for massages. I'm sure my fellow seniors will be looking to see if she provides more than a massage. I've found out from fellow mongers from another state that she does give a type of happy ending but the rate they gave me just did not convince me to ask for any extras. The woman gives a good massage and looks good. Anyways they told me she provides a HJ topless for a total of $40 and that includes the hour massage. So its a good massageand then a topless HJ. Supposedly its a really really good HJ. I just can't convince myself that its worth it. I responded back that here in the chi I could probably get that for less. One of them responded that 140 is indeed the price and topless HJ is as far as ill get with her. I went back for another massage and it felt so good. I'll try for extras next time first ill check how much they are going to cost me. I can't have the little head thinking for me anymore. Sorry but she tells me that she's had to turn clients away so it seems her plate is full with the ones she has and the bar job.

Gopher88
04-09-12, 12:24
An acquaintance of mine told me today that in the last week, someone robbed at gunpoint 3 spas along Archer Ave (in order, XINDY, RUBY, and the one after RUBY). Seems that it was the same guy. 30s looking and spoke Chinese (or is Chinese). Robbed the workers. Don't know if any guests were there at the time.My friend told me:

" Yes, my friend coco she work in ruby.

Was robbed, gun pointed to her throat and she lost 300+ "

OPIllini
04-09-12, 15:57
An acquaintance of mine told me today that in the last week, someone robbed at gunpoint 3 spas along Archer Ave (in order, XINDY, RUBY, and the one after RUBY). Seems that it was the same guy. 30s looking and spoke Chinese (or is Chinese). Robbed the workers. Don't know if any guests were there at the time.The one after Ruby would be Hong Kong. Good info; I will be avoiding Archer Ave spas for awhile until things cool down. Hope LE actually does what it's supposed to be doing and catch this guy instead of needlessly harassing the spas.

Grateful One
04-09-12, 16:39
Have you seen this new show on Lifetime Channel; starring Jennifer Love Hewitt? The Client List.

http://gawker.com/5900428/the-jennifer-love-hewitt-handjob-hour-is-the-funniest-new-show-on-tv

My apologies if this is the wrong forum but it is related.

Cheers.

Nicky Forza
04-10-12, 00:05
The one after Ruby would be Hong Kong. Good info; I will be avoiding Archer Ave spas for awhile until things cool down. Hope LE actually does what it's supposed to be doing and catch this guy instead of needlessly harassing the spas.My view is the opposite. I think this individual is likely to move on to other pastures now that he has done his thing on Archer. The stick up man is not going to want to be interrupted as he picks his easy targets.

Senfled
04-10-12, 21:02
I will be avoiding Archer Ave spas for awhile until things cool down. Hope LE actually does what it's supposed to be doing and catch this guy instead of needlessly harassing the spas. WIR OTOH LE?

Senfled
04-11-12, 01:06
I will be avoiding Archer Ave spas for awhile until things cool down. Hope LE actually does what it's supposed to be doing and catch this guy instead of needlessly harassing the spas. WIR OTOH LE?

Nicky Forza
04-11-12, 10:24
I will be avoiding Archer Ave spas for awhile until things cool down. Hope LE actually does what it's supposed to be doing and catch this guy instead of needlessly harassing the spas. WIR OTOH LE?Looks like someone learned how to use Ctrl C and Ctrl V to copy and paste. Well done.

Blue Screen
04-11-12, 12:17
Have you seen this new show on Lifetime Channel; starring Jennifer Love Hewitt? The Client List.

http://gawker.com/5900428/the-jennifer-love-hewitt-handjob-hour-is-the-funniest-new-show-on-tv

My apologies if this is the wrong forum but it is related.

Cheers.Awesomely ridiculous! The best part is all the young, hard-bodied men as clients. HA! Where are all the middle-aged fat guys?

Ghostface89
04-11-12, 12:24
Have you seen this new show on Lifetime Channel; starring Jennifer Love Hewitt? The Client List.

http://gawker.com/5900428/the-jennifer-love-hewitt-handjob-hour-is-the-funniest-new-show-on-tv

My apologies if this is the wrong forum but it is related.

Cheers.In 1972 Canadian independent film make Soo Lyu released the MP comedy "Rub & Tug."

www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi311492889

Magooski
04-11-12, 17:43
Awesomely ridiculous! The best part is all the young, hard-bodied men as clients. HA! Where are all the middle-aged fat guys?No kidding. That would make it a reality show!

Yoss1138
04-11-12, 20:15
Have you seen this new show on Lifetime Channel; starring Jennifer Love Hewitt? The Client List.

http://gawker.com/5900428/the-jennifer-love-hewitt-handjob-hour-is-the-funniest-new-show-on-tv

My apologies if this is the wrong forum but it is related.I watched the first episode On Demand. This isn't the best show on TV but it's worth watching for anyone on this board. The show deals with high-end spas that cater to sensual massage. Chicago doesn't have a scene like this but it will be familiar to anyone who has spent time in New York.

Overall the show paints a pretty fair and nonjudgemental view of the business. This is Lifetime, a women's network, and they could have been a lot harsher to men and the business in general. I think at the end of the day Lifetime realized this is just about consenting adults exchanging payment for a service.

The main character, played by Jennifer Love Hewitt, is a stay-at-home mom who was a legit masseuse earlier in career. She has nice kids, cars and a beautiful McMansion in the burbs. After her out-of-work husband leaves them she's forced to get a job to support her family. The economy sucks and she can only get a job as a masseuse. But that doesn't pay the bills so she turns to giving extras in order to make the big $$$ tips. Nobody forced her into it and she seems to actually enjoy what she does.

The customers, all men, are pretty regular joes. One is a business traveller type who is just horny. Another is an older guy whose marriage is at its end. Yes, it's Lifetime, so some of the customers are "hard body" types for the benefit of the woman audience. I thought Lifetime would portray the men as all loser types but they actually did a fair job.

The spa owner is a older woman who, like Jennifer Love Hewitt's character, simply wants to support her own children. She treats the employees well and seems to be a decent small business owner. Lifetime could have made her an abusive pimp type but instead she comes across as a very normal entrepreneur.

Sjon58
04-11-12, 20:30
I will be in Chicago next week. I have been scoping a place and was hoping someone could confirm the reports of it being R&T. Not interested in FS. I am newer to the site, but the reports have been very helpful as I travel a lot. St. Louis and Charlotte have been fun! Anyway, I cannot find anything regarding this place on here.

Please respond with a PM. It's on Peterson in a medical building (TM).

I would take any other suggestions as well via PM. I will be in the Franklin Park area. I like a very good R before the HE.

Thanks and Happy Hunting!

Mylar 824
04-12-12, 08:25
I will be in Chicago next week. I have been scoping a place and was hoping someone could confirm the reports of it being R&T. Not interested in FS. I am newer to the site, but the reports have been very helpful as I travel a lot. St. Louis and Charlotte have been fun! Anyway, I cannot find anything regarding this place on here.

Please respond with a PM. It's on Peterson in a medical building (TM).

I would take any other suggestions as well via PM. I will be in the Franklin Park area. I like a very good R before the HE.

Thanks and Happy Hunting!Are you talking about the Asian place? The Latina place on Peterson closed. The Asian place gives a good massage and HE, no roaming or nudity.

Nighthawk1955
04-12-12, 10:26
Awesomely ridiculous! The best part is all the young, hard-bodied men as clients. HA! Where are all the middle-aged fat guys?I am right here.

Gopher88
04-12-12, 16:50
I am right here.

Were all here

Dee Mac
04-12-12, 22:07
I watched the first episode On Demand. This isn't the best show on TV but it's worth watching for anyone on this board. The show deals with high-end spas that cater to sensual massage. Chicago doesn't have a scene like this but it will be familiar to anyone who has spent time in New York.

Overall the show paints a pretty fair and nonjudgemental view of the business. This is Lifetime, a women's network, and they could have been a lot harsher to men and the business in general. I think at the end of the day Lifetime realized this is just about consenting adults exchanging payment for a service.

The main character, played by Jennifer Love Hewitt, is a stay-at-home mom who was a legit masseuse earlier in career. She has nice kids, cars and a beautiful McMansion in the burbs. After her out-of-work husband leaves them she's forced to get a job to support her family. The economy sucks and she can only get a job as a masseuse. But that doesn't pay the bills so she turns to giving extras in order to make the big $$$ tips. Nobody forced her into it and she seems to actually enjoy what she does.

The customers, all men, are pretty regular joes. One is a business traveller type who is just horny. Another is an older guy whose marriage is at its end. Yes, it's Lifetime, so some of the customers are "hard body" types for the benefit of the woman audience. I thought Lifetime would portray the men as all loser types but they actually did a fair job.

The spa owner is a older woman who, like Jennifer Love Hewitt's character, simply wants to support her own children. She treats the employees well and seems to be a decent small business owner. Lifetime could have made her an abusive pimp type but instead she comes across as a very normal entrepreneur.If she asked me for 0. 6 I would have to relent.

Ashoka
04-13-12, 00:34
My current ATFs 1 and 2 need a timeout, but they're both at that 2520 place, so I'm trying to diversify my portfolio (even after years and years, these girls can still play games and be just as crazy as women not on the payroll, if not more so). Things are barren compared to 2005 or hell, even 2009. I know Sunkiss' reputation for being a blue-ball establishment, and I've been there before (back when it was new) and received all the right signs, but only an odd quasi-finish (neither legal nor satisfying, which is just dumb). But currently it's so busy in there after 9 every night that I figured something has to be going on, so I did a walk-in tonight. Got Coco. Very tiny, very quiet, but a great great massage. I knew there was a good chance it wouldn't end happy, but again, the signs were all there. No towel at any time, lights dimmed for the flip, lots of thigh massaging. But no finish. It's been so long since I was denied (because I see my regulars) , I was actually more amused than anything else. I dropped a Jackson for the good back-walk and the thorough massage (didn't plan ahead and had no smaller bills).

So seniors and other distinguished fellows. Can I get some info on who to ask for, and what I can expect? The phone was ringing off the hook and the door was buzzing constantly the whole time I was there. Someone has to be getting something! PM if you like. I'd also be interested in knowing if Coco is good to go on return visits. She gave me the whole we-do-only-professional-massages-here routine, but I'd love to know if there's anything to be had with a little persistence. Thanks.

Aa

Travelin Man3
04-13-12, 10:50
Were all hereWe are indeed.

Gopher88
04-13-12, 12:28
Have you seen this new show on Lifetime Channel; starring Jennifer Love Hewitt? The Client List.

http://gawker.com/5900428/the-jennifer-love-hewitt-handjob-hour-is-the-funniest-new-show-on-tv

My apologies if this is the wrong forum but it is related.

Cheers.First Thanks for the info. I just watched the first show on video. Soon as she started wearing sexy outfits. I though for sure there was going to be a undercover Cop. She is one hot chick.

George W. Bush
04-13-12, 21:41
I guess I better check it out before Tom Dart slaps an orange sticker on the door.

JohnnyBeBad
04-14-12, 09:33
I guess I better check it out before Tom Dart slaps an orange sticker on the door.Maybe Dart should spend more time watching his own:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/11342219-418/a-cook-county-sheriffs-officer-and-his-son-have-been-snared-in-a-federal-sting.html

Ghostface89
04-14-12, 15:35
Maybe Dart should spend more time watching his own:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/11342219-418/a-cook-county-sheriffs-officer-and-his-son-have-been-snared-in-a-federal-sting.htmlHaving seen the Middle Eastern employees at a local BP gas station unloading large quantities of cigarette cartons late at night (on multiple occasions) , I contacted the authorities. Guess what? Nothing happened. Now I see why. The Cook County cops are on the take.

I guess if I were to put in a tip on an AMP, they would have been shaken down as well.

Tom Dart seems too busy busting puppy mills outside his jurisdiction (for misdemeanors, no less) to be able to control his own officers.

Biscuit123
04-14-12, 17:28
Having seen the Middle Eastern employees at a local BP gas station unloading large quantities of cigarette cartons late at night (on multiple occasions) , I contacted the authorities. Guess what? Nothing happened. Now I see why. The Cook County cops are on the take.

I guess if I were to put in a tip on an AMP, they would have been shaken down as well.

Tom Dart seems too busy busting puppy mills outside his jurisdiction (for misdemeanors, no less) to be able to control his own officers.They do t even pay income tax for the first 7 years. U figure they to contribute to the government anyway. It's a crying shame. The middle easterns are trying to bet the system every way possible. At least the mp can make someone smile.

Chimonger
04-16-12, 10:07
Serious, something must be going on. There are always slammed after 9pm. I went two weeks ago and didn't get any extras as usual but massage was great. Tried to go last week a few nights but again always booked after 9pm. If anyone has an intel please share. PM is fine.


My current ATFs 1 and 2 need a timeout, but they're both at that 2520 place, so I'm trying to diversify my portfolio (even after years and years, these girls can still play games and be just as crazy as women not on the payroll, if not more so). Things are barren compared to 2005 or hell, even 2009. I know Sunkiss' reputation for being a blue-ball establishment, and I've been there before (back when it was new) and received all the right signs, but only an odd quasi-finish (neither legal nor satisfying, which is just dumb). But currently it's so busy in there after 9 every night that I figured something has to be going on, so I did a walk-in tonight. Got Coco. Very tiny, very quiet, but a great great massage. I knew there was a good chance it wouldn't end happy, but again, the signs were all there. No towel at any time, lights dimmed for the flip, lots of thigh massaging. But no finish. It's been so long since I was denied (because I see my regulars) , I was actually more amused than anything else. I dropped a Jackson for the good back-walk and the thorough massage (didn't plan ahead and had no smaller bills).

So seniors and other distinguished fellows. Can I get some info on who to ask for, and what I can expect? The phone was ringing off the hook and the door was buzzing constantly the whole time I was there. Someone has to be getting something! PM if you like. I'd also be interested in knowing if Coco is good to go on return visits. She gave me the whole we-do-only-professional-massages-here routine, but I'd love to know if there's anything to be had with a little persistence. Thanks.

Aa

WalkBob
04-16-12, 11:41
Went to see the Mexican sisters, now on Foster. Wanted 4 hands and paid. 5. One was very hot, one was doable. Not a massage but light rub for about 20 minutes, then flip for about two. Ask if I want BJ or HJ finish for. 5 or. 4. I get out. 5 for BJ wanting the hot girl. The other girl says since it's four hands, they both get. 5. I put my $$$ away and ask to just finish massage (I paid for an hour). About 5 more minutes, they say all done. Only a half hour. Felt ripped off. All in all a lame rubdown for. 5 although I did get to feel up the hot girl some.

BigDog16
04-17-12, 16:32
Has anyone had a chance to meet Jennifer, the newest Logan Square Tantrica? I have tried to meet her twice and on both occasions our schedules did not work out.

Bash1981
04-17-12, 16:54
Went to see the Mexican sisters, now on Foster. Wanted 4 hands and paid. 5. One was very hot, one was doable. Not a massage but light rub for about 20 minutes, then flip for about two. Ask if I want BJ or HJ finish for. 5 or. 4. I get out. 5 for BJ wanting the hot girl. The other girl says since it's four hands, they both get. 5. I put my $$$ away and ask to just finish massage (I paid for an hour). About 5 more minutes, they say all done. Only a half hour. Felt ripped off. All in all a lame rubdown for. 5 although I did get to feel up the hot girl some.The hot girl. Did you get her name?

I was thinking of just 2 hands, not 4.

Roscoe23
04-17-12, 20:28
The hot girl. Did you get her name?

I was thinking of just 2 hands, not 4.Her name is Jennie. Not sure on the spelling.

LongRanger99
04-17-12, 23:33
Went to see the Mexican sisters, now on Foster. Wanted 4 hands and paid. 5. One was very hot, one was doable. Not a massage but light rub for about 20 minutes, then flip for about two. Ask if I want BJ or HJ finish for. 5 or. 4. I get out. 5 for BJ wanting the hot girl. The other girl says since it's four hands, they both get. 5. I put my $$$ away and ask to just finish massage (I paid for an hour). About 5 more minutes, they say all done. Only a half hour. Felt ripped off. All in all a lame rubdown for. 5 although I did get to feel up the hot girl some.I had a massage with them before, you have to keep your eyes on them because they do like to skimp on the time. I will repeat but I usually try to negotiate because these massuises need to understand there is a recession going on around here. The state talks about women being victimized: sure, $75 hr tax free: maybe the mongers are being victimized!

WalkBob
04-18-12, 10:01
The hot girl. Did you get her name?

I was thinking of just 2 hands, not 4.No, but I see someone said it is Jenny. I'd never consider going back but I'd love the shot to have her bent over the table.

Datsurman
04-18-12, 12:56
I like to save a buck as much as the next guy but you sound cheap as hell. They already have the lowest prices for quality of service in all chicago and that's before adding the 'very hot' chick that you are talking about.

Your loss dude. A double BJ for $ is a really good deal. Now that I think about it. I am going to make an appt this week happily take the offer that U-turned down.


Went to see the Mexican sisters, now on Foster. Wanted 4 hands and paid. 5. One was very hot, one was doable. Not a massage but light rub for about 20 minutes, then flip for about two. Ask if I want BJ or HJ finish for. 5 or. 4. I get out. 5 for BJ wanting the hot girl. The other girl says since it's four hands, they both get. 5. I put my $$$ away and ask to just finish massage (I paid for an hour). About 5 more minutes, they say all done. Only a half hour. Felt ripped off. All in all a lame rubdown for. 5 although I did get to feel up the hot girl some.

AmericanIron
04-18-12, 15:51
I passed by Ruby last night around 8, two police cars with flashing lights were blocking part of the street. Looked like something was going down inside but I couldn't stop and look, my girlfrind was driving. Anyone have any intel?

Bebop60
04-18-12, 18:35
Wanted to visit my fave at Archer Spa after a two month hiatus, but her cell was disconnected. I knew other fun girls there so I went Sunday evening. The mamasan was kinda surly, gave me a middle-aged butterface masseuse who beat the crap out of my back leaving me more sore than relaxed and then watched the clock and complained constantly on the flip. Mr Happy couldn't get happy with the crabby clock watching masseuse so I got up and left. There was an ok looking white girl there I saw but she went to take a nap.

My old regular girl there had a name that began with an S and was latina with long hair and a nice athletic body. If anyone has info about where she went, please PM me. Otherwise, stay away from Archer Spa, that really sucked.

Member #4164
04-18-12, 23:15
I'm coming into town for a week and I'll be staying close to O'Hare. I'm not familiar with the town much, so I don't know where X street or X neighborhood is.

I'm hoping someone can PM me with either a good AMP in the vacinity (20 min) of the airport or massause with a good handshake.

I have posted some reviews in Cleveland, TN and Indy. Any help is appreciated.

Bebop60
04-18-12, 23:26
Went to see the Mexican sisters, now on Foster. Wanted 4 hands and paid. 5. One was very hot, one was doable. Not a massage but light rub for about 20 minutes, then flip for about two. Ask if I want BJ or HJ finish for. 5 or. 4. I get out. 5 for BJ wanting the hot girl. The other girl says since it's four hands, they both get. 5. I put my $$$ away and ask to just finish massage (I paid for an hour). About 5 more minutes, they say all done. Only a half hour. Felt ripped off. All in all a lame rubdown for. 5 although I did get to feel up the hot girl some.Man, this is one of the best deals. A double BJ for $. And they are friendly. I've seen them twice and both times they were nice. Not the prettiest but not $$$$ either. I recommend them!

George W. Bush
04-19-12, 00:34
Covered or uncovered for the BJ option?

LongRanger99
04-19-12, 05:15
Went to see the Mexican sisters, now on Foster. Wanted 4 hands and paid. 5. One was very hot, one was doable. Not a massage but light rub for about 20 minutes, then flip for about two. Ask if I want BJ or HJ finish for. 5 or. 4. I get out. 5 for BJ wanting the hot girl. The other girl says since it's four hands, they both get. 5. I put my $$$ away and ask to just finish massage (I paid for an hour). About 5 more minutes, they say all done. Only a half hour. Felt ripped off. All in all a lame rubdown for. 5 although I did get to feel up the hot girl some.Been reading replies to 'WalkBob' and I must say that I am disturbed with the direct and indirect insults. Every monger knows how deep his particular pockets are. If someone's pockets are so deep that they can spend $.5 and in not be any bother then o'well but that is surely not the case for all mongers especially of now with the recession. Me personally I am not trying to spend / donate more than .70 for a session and as of lately I have mostly picked SWs for about .20. I have spend / donated quite more in the past but as of now my situation does not reasonably allow it. Hopefully the future will bring better times as it has done in the past. As far as I am concerned $.5 is a lot with this economy. $.5 can put two tires on your car or you can have 45 min. of fun. We all make our decisions but lets not ride someone for being cautious about their pockets. Lets just be appreciative about the monger experience given.

Datsurman
04-19-12, 06:49
In my dreams. But your mileage may vary.


Covered or uncovered for the BJ option?

Nighthawk1955
04-19-12, 09:32
We all make our decisions but lets not ride someone for being cautious about their pockets. Lets just be appreciative about the monger experience given.People pay what they pay. The only thing I say is, if you can't afford it, stay home and jerk off.

I agree with you. No one should get shit for how much the do or don't spend.

Gopher88
04-19-12, 11:42
People pay what they pay. The only thing I say is, if you can't afford it, stay home and jerk off.

I agree with you. No one should get shit for how much the do or don't spend.I second the motion Mr Mayor, All in favor say I

Casper27
04-19-12, 20:47
I like to save a buck as much as the next guy but you sound cheap as hell. They already have the lowest prices for quality of service in all chicago and that's before adding the 'very hot' chick that you are talking about.

Your loss dude. A double BJ for $ is a really good deal. Now that I think about it. I am going to make an appt this week happily take the offer that U-turned down.You can count me in as being cheap in the end what it came down to was paying 150 for a lame rub and a BJ. I could get FS at an apt. Half hr for less or add another dime and do the hr. If you've got money to burn then more power to you.

Twodya
04-19-12, 21:29
Serious, something must be going on. There are always slammed after 9pm. I went two weeks ago and didn't get any extras as usual but massage was great. Tried to go last week a few nights but again always booked after 9pm. If anyone has an intel please share. PM is fine.I don't known what's going on at sun all I know is that I think they close at 10:30, and busy till closing. I heard there used to be after hours music clubs where the musicians would play the best music before and after hours. All I know is that old saying, 'Fun in the Sun.

BigChiGuy44
04-19-12, 23:18
You can count me in as being cheap in the end what it came down to was paying 150 for a lame rub and a BJ. I could get FS at an apt. Half hr for less or add another dime and do the hr. If you've got money to burn then more power to you.I agree with Casper. I'm cheap too, but we're conditioned that way. To an extent that's why we are all here, to find the best experience for the buck. Let's not forget YMMV can have many applications. In the end we have to do what were comfortable with in any situation. No need to put anyone else down.

Thanks and stay safe,

Bigchiguy

Al Melrose
04-20-12, 02:58
Having seen the Middle Eastern employees at a local BP gas station unloading large quantities of cigarette cartons late at night (on multiple occasions) , I contacted the authorities. Guess what? Nothing happened. Now I see why. The Cook County cops are on the take.

I guess if I were to put in a tip on an AMP, they would have been shaken down as well.

Tom Dart seems too busy busting puppy mills outside his jurisdiction (for misdemeanors, no less) to be able to control his own officers.Why are you calling the police? Should the police be called when you frequent a place of happiness?

You see an actual crime happening, robbery. Assault, etc, call the police. Someone selling cigs, liquor, having fun in their car, I don't think the police need to be involved.

Diamondback
04-20-12, 10:29
Can someone send me a tip via pm (if necessary) on how I would go about finding one of the infamous asian apartment girls. I kept reading unspecific posts about them but I don't know how to find them. Can somebody help. I'll be staying downtown so I will need one that is fairly close by.

Thanks

CTmongerX1
04-20-12, 17:58
Can someone send me a tip via pm (if necessary) on how I would go about finding one of the infamous asian apartment girls. I kept reading unspecific posts about them but I don't know how to find them. Can somebody help. I'll be staying downtown so I will need one that is fairly close by.

ThanksChicagoland boasts several alternative sex mags, such as chicago after dark, and the gentleman's pages. These are a good place to start. Also BP can get you started, and of course RTFF which may give tips on specific phone numbers.

Good luck.

CTm

GoldenGreek
04-21-12, 03:59
Go to eros dot com and check under asians. The ones that charge 160 are the asian apts. There are others that you can find at other places. Chicago after dark, city vibe. Etc.


Can someone send me a tip via pm (if necessary) on how I would go about finding one of the infamous asian apartment girls. I kept reading unspecific posts about them but I don't know how to find them. Can somebody help. I'll be staying downtown so I will need one that is fairly close by.

Thanks

Diamondback
04-21-12, 13:57
Go to eros dot com and check under asians. The ones that charge 160 are the asian apts. There are others that you can find at other places. Chicago after dark, city vibe. Etc.Thank you for the intel GG!

Magooski
04-21-12, 15:33
I second the motion Mr Mayor, All in favor say IAs with Gopher, I also say I

Calstep20
04-22-12, 13:16
Go to eros dot com and check under asians. The ones that charge 160 are the asian apts. There are others that you can find at other places. Chicago after dark, city vibe. Etc.Thanks GoldenGreek. I was also wondering about the asian apartments. I am new to Chicago and trying to figure the scene out. Would the ones that charge other than 160 also be ok? I was interested in Jenny on EROS but searching for her phone number doesn't yield many results, and it seems there have been so many Jennys that have come and gone that its nearly impossible to find any intel on this one. Thanks again for the help so far!

Nighthawk1955
04-23-12, 10:42
Would the ones that charge other than 160 also be ok?Nothing is "ok". Also. Assume the pictures on Eros are fakes. They often are for Asians.

WalkBob
04-23-12, 11:13
Funny the responses on here to my Mexican Sister post. Ifsome of you want to drop $.5 for a rushed double BJ, go for it. For me, I can get multi cup, two hour, FS w / Greek with a total hottie for that.

Also reported on full service multi cup with non rushed double BJ and facial for $$.2 from a pair earlier.

Wasn't really interested in the one chick and didn; t want to pay her. 5 when I really wanted her to leave me with the hottie. Some of you may like to pay that for substandard service but I feel we need to do a better job of setting the market. I always talk asian apartments down some too as there are so many. Usually get $.4 for FS. Then, good service gets well tipped and bad is left with the negotiated rate. That keeps the good providers happy and hopefully, drives the bad ones away or to a cheaper price point.

If anyone has had full service with the hottie sister, please PM and let me know the cover and how it was.

Gbaby31
04-23-12, 17:02
Place is on a* tried 2 girls and the owner Liz. First Bella 25 fit black girl and my god her body is Sooooo tight with nice tits and a firm ass. Walked in wearing low cut jeans and a tank top. Soon had her fully naked I could rub all over great personality awesome Google girl, did a CBJ for. 60 skills 8 went down on me rough she looked so sexy doing it while I rub her p* and nice ass. Then saw a Latina named Lola she's 23 has kids but you couldn't notice, and she's thicker but no muffin top or anything. Long black hair and decent size tits but her ass is WAY bigger then Bella and her thighs couldn't even slip in to play because her cheecks were so damn tight nice big ass, did a HJ for. 50 with her she's single and has no bf all she does is work and boy does she get into it. Started with a nice

A tity F* then she got on top between my legs and started working me moaning I could feel her get wet and warm sucking my fingers while stroking me, finally I unload ll over her face. Awesome time. Finally Liz the owner older mid 40s Latina not bad looking for an older women decent body nice tits and ass but she's nothing like the other to did a CBJ for. 40 her skills where amazing also gets naked and lets the hands roam she did get into it as well. Its 45 for 40 mins and 40 for 30min by far the best massage place I have ever gone to, young sexy girls who go full body nude then just pay for extras, themassage on other hand is a 1-2 completely suck but I could care less. Liz told me no black guys and if you sound black she will say they are closed. Seniors only or people I have talked to before, its a bit of a drive but I don't mind. Looking for a local SW with big tits around or close to 47th.

DragonAnthem
04-23-12, 21:35
Hello,

I recently moved to Chicago and just started getting into this massage parlor thing. I'm really interested in the APM specifically. Anyways, I went to a place on Peterson Avenue called Therapy massage as my first visit into an APM. I didn't know what to expect. Basically, I paid $70 for just a massage. And I didn't get to pick who I wanted to do the massage. I had an older woman who gave me a massage after placing a sheet over my body. When I did the flip, I was expecting her to offer something more but after she did the massage, she said all finished with a smile. Am I supposed to tip ahead of time? Or how do you find out if she can do some extra? Wanted to check out Alice's spa on Wentworth but they had a "revoked sign". Any veterans can give me a tip on how to get some happy endings around Chicago. Also, do you know where there are some younger masseuses?

Thanks

Jiujitsu
04-23-12, 22:47
Place is on a* tried 2 girls and the owner Liz. First Bella 25 fit black girl and my god her body is Sooooo tight with nice tits and a firm ass. Walked in wearing low cut jeans and a tank top. Soon had her fully naked I could rub all over great personality awesome Google girl, did a CBJ for. 60 skills 8 went down on me rough she looked so sexy doing it while I rub her p* and nice ass. Then saw a Latina named Lola she's 23 has kids but you couldn't notice, and she's thicker but no muffin top or anything. Long black hair and decent size tits but her ass is WAY bigger then Bella and her thighs couldn't even slip in to play because her cheecks were so damn tight nice big ass, did a HJ for. 50 with her she's single and has no bf all she does is work and boy does she get into it. Started with a nice

A tity F* then she got on top between my legs and started working me moaning I could feel her get wet and warm sucking my fingers while stroking me, finally I unload ll over her face. Awesome time. Finally Liz the owner older mid 40s Latina not bad looking for an older women decent body nice tits and ass but she's nothing like the other to did a CBJ for. 40 her skills where amazing also gets naked and lets the hands roam she did get into it as well. Its 45 for 40 mins and 40 for 30min by far the best massage place I have ever gone to, young sexy girls who go full body nude then just pay for extras, themassage on other hand is a 1-2 completely suck but I could care less. Liz told me no black guys and if you sound black she will say they are closed. Seniors only or people I have talked to before, its a bit of a drive but I don't mind. Looking for a local SW with big tits around or close to 47th.These girls are great. $.30-$.40 for FS. Theyre extremely nice and never hurry you. Been going there for the last month. I recommend it. And yes, the massage sucked big time! But who goes there for a massage? LOL

Casper27
04-23-12, 23:38
Hello,

I recently moved to Chicago and just started getting into this massage parlor thing. I'm really interested in the APM specifically. Anyways, I went to a place on Peterson Avenue called Therapy massage as my first visit into an APM. I didn't know what to expect. Basically, I paid $70 for just a massage. And I didn't get to pick who I wanted to do the massage. I had an older woman who gave me a massage after placing a sheet over my body. When I did the flip, I was expecting her to offer something more but after she did the massage, she said all finished with a smile. Am I supposed to tip ahead of time? Or how do you find out if she can do some extra? Wanted to check out Alice's spa on Wentworth but they had a "revoked sign". Any veterans can give me a tip on how to get some happy endings around Chicago. Also, do you know where there are some younger masseuses?

ThanksMy tip would be to RTFF.

DragonAnthem
04-24-12, 00:25
My tip would be to RTFF.What is rtff?

BigLittleHead
04-24-12, 11:40
Hi. Had to re-sign up on this board after failed many password recovery attempts.

I use to be gotthe itch.

Are the "Mexican sisters" the same group that were on Peterson and kedzie?

I had been to p&k several times and thought it was a bargin.

So just wondering if I should expect to see the same faces.

Thanks

Mercedes100
04-24-12, 13:01
Place is on a* tried 2 girls and the owner Liz. First Bella 25 fit black girl and my god her body is Sooooo tight with nice tits and a firm ass. Walked in wearing low cut jeans and a tank top. Soon had her fully naked I could rub all over great personality awesome Google girl, did a CBJ for. 60 skills 8 went down on me rough she looked so sexy doing it while I rub her p* and nice ass. Then saw a Latina named Lola she's 23 has kids but you couldn't notice, and she's thicker but no muffin top or anything. Long black hair and decent size tits but her ass is WAY bigger then Bella and her thighs couldn't even slip in to play because her cheecks were so damn tight nice big ass, did a HJ for. 50 with her she's single and has no bf all she does is work and boy does she get into it. Started with a nice

A tity F* then she got on top between my legs and started working me moaning I could feel her get wet and warm sucking my fingers while stroking me, finally I unload ll over her face. Awesome time. Finally Liz the owner older mid 40s Latina not bad looking for an older women decent body nice tits and ass but she's nothing like the other to did a CBJ for. 40 her skills where amazing also gets naked and lets the hands roam she did get into it as well. Its 45 for 40 mins and 40 for 30min by far the best massage place I have ever gone to, young sexy girls who go full body nude then just pay for extras, themassage on other hand is a 1-2 completely suck but I could care less. Liz told me no black guys and if you sound black she will say they are closed. Seniors only or people I have talked to before, its a bit of a drive but I don't mind. Looking for a local SW with big tits around or close to 47th.Gbaby I agree this place has everything you will want. I have been going there since they moved from Pulaski. I know they will become more popular as this posting tells it all. Nice place nice post.

M100

Member202
04-24-12, 20:23
No. Peterson and Kedzie is a different group of girls.


Hi. Had to re-sign up on this board after failed many password recovery attempts.

I use to be gotthe itch.

Are the "Mexican sisters" the same group that were on Peterson and kedzie?

I had been to p&k several times and thought it was a bargin.

So just wondering if I should expect to see the same faces.

Thanks

Dbomb
04-24-12, 21:45
What is rtff?Read.

The.

Fuckin.

Forum

JohnSmith12
04-24-12, 22:11
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/andhearts-sexy-exotic-latinas-fun-nuru-body2body-mutual-touch-erotic-dances-massages-up-all-night-22/11373331

The info on these girls there are 4 lovely sweet latinas that are there different times one sometimes two is there all night. Its a clean private candle lit apartment First time I went there the girls greeted me very sweet it was my 1st time getting a massage anywere. Met Veronica she was dressed in lingerie heels sweet THICK ass PuertoRican blonde hair hazel eyes sweet face I love girls with a huge ass! Can definetly hold a great conversation let me touch her all over her lap dance was AMAZING paid 150 No rush and massage was great! HJ AMAZING body to body ass all over me rub that tight puss, The 2nd girl Jazzie Petite Columbian Huge boobs slim ass sweet face massage was amazing as well they play any type of music you like and love to feel on each other. Then went there spent 200 4hand girl on girl action these latinas huge boobs were feeling on each other fingering smacking each others ass Had a BLAST! Will DEFFINETLY REPEAT! FS Message me for more info! New to this.

And Again
04-24-12, 23:26
Hi. Had to re-sign up on this board after failed many password recovery attempts.

I use to be gotthe itch.

Are the "Mexican sisters" the same group that were on Peterson and kedzie?

I had been to p&k several times and thought it was a bargin.

So just wondering if I should expect to see the same faces.

ThanksAs far as I know, these are the same girls. If not, someone please pm me the contact info.

JohnSmith12
04-25-12, 04:00
Seen the girls pretty faces you get what you payed for time was RUSHED Massage wasent all that great wouldn't call it a massage more like a light touch, she didn't hold a conversation didn't let me touch her and told me she had an appointment right after me that I had to hurry up, recieved better whats the big deal here?

SexCrazed
04-25-12, 04:31
Went to visit Mexican Sisters yesterday. New girl Jenny was a young girl / after 5 minutes flip / asked for $100 for CBJ/$200 FS. WTF / She's cute but not gorgeous!

Jamz20
04-25-12, 10:27
Liz told me no black guys and if you sound black she will say they are closed.Not sure the point behind the comment. I have this place on speed dial and liz knows me by name.

Alterxxx
04-26-12, 00:18
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/andhearts-sexy-exotic-latinas-fun-nuru-body2body-mutual-touch-erotic-dances-massages-up-all-night-22/11373331

The info on these girls there are 4 lovely sweet latinas that are there different times one sometimes two is there all night. Its a clean private candle lit apartment First time I went there the girls greeted me very sweet it was my 1st time getting a massage anywere. Met Veronica she was dressed in lingerie heels sweet THICK ass PuertoRican blonde hair hazel eyes sweet face I love girls with a huge ass! Can definetly hold a great conversation let me touch her all over her lap dance was AMAZING paid 150 No rush and massage was great! HJ AMAZING body to body ass all over me rub that tight puss, The 2nd girl Jazzie Petite Columbian Huge boobs slim ass sweet face massage was amazing as well they play any type of music you like and love to feel on each other. Then went there spent 200 4hand girl on girl action these latinas huge boobs were feeling on each other fingering smacking each others ass Had a BLAST! Will DEFFINETLY REPEAT! FS Message me for more info! New to this.I must have gone on an off day. Couple of weeks ago took a Friday off and took a plunge. I think I had the Puerto Rican you are describing blonde with hazel eyes. Except she was probably closer to 230 lbs about 5'4. Big fat ass. I don't mind the BBWs. Makes me feel I'm getting more for my money. Anyways she had on lingerie. She didn't let me roam and I thought for 150 I would get FS. Especially from BBW. All that was on menu was some titties in my mouth and a HJ. No finger fishin either. My hand was moved several times. She did moan a bit as she was strokin it. But to no avail. HJ was lacking technique. She did make an effort. But for 150. Lets face it. 10 bucks more and I could have gotten FS from a hot ass asian. These ghetto girls need to take some lessons in economics. Overall D-

LongRanger99
04-26-12, 04:28
Liz told me no black guys and if you sound black she will say they are closed.


Have a friend that is African American and he has told me about some issues that he has ran into. He states that he has been to some white providers and when he shows up they will not let him in. States other times he will get service from white provider and when the provider feels safe around him they will let him return. It appears a lot of providers are afraid of young african american males. Any one of any race can act up or do some law less shit so not sure why african american males get singled out. The disturbing thing is that I see african american providers say no african american males: I am yet to see any other race of provider say they do not service their own race.

Gopher88
04-26-12, 09:29
Is anyone else having trouble logging in to there account at that other MP review site. Won't let me in. I've been trying for two day.

EbonySugarbaby
04-26-12, 12:52
Have a friend that is African American and he has told me about some issues that he has ran into. He states that he has been to some white providers and when he shows up they will not let him in. States other times he will get service from white provider and when the provider feels safe around him they will let him return. It appears a lot of providers are afraid of young african american males. Any one of any race can act up or do some law less shit so not sure why african american males get singled out. The disturbing thing is that I see african american providers say no african american males: I am yet to see any other race of provider say they do not service their own race.Most providers that say no AA Men have pimps.

• I've seen other ads discriminating against Latins and Indians, not just Black.

• Its also a GOOD idea to spend time/$ on someone well reviewed that isn't Racist.

BeetleJuice001
04-26-12, 13:30
I'm not Indian but I've heard of Indian providers who will not see Indian men.

BJ001.


Have a friend that is African American and he has told me about some issues that he has ran into. He states that he has been to some white providers and when he shows up they will not let him in. States other times he will get service from white provider and when the provider feels safe around him they will let him return. It appears a lot of providers are afraid of young african american males. Any one of any race can act up or do some law less shit so not sure why african american males get singled out. The disturbing thing is that I see african american providers say no african american males: I am yet to see any other race of provider say they do not service their own race.

Nicky Forza
04-26-12, 17:12
Have a friend that is African American and he has told me about some issues that he has ran into. He states that he has been to some white providers and when he shows up they will not let him in. States other times he will get service from white provider and when the provider feels safe around him they will let him return. It appears a lot of providers are afraid of young african american males. Any one of any race can act up or do some law less shit so not sure why african american males get singled out. The disturbing thing is that I see african american providers say no african american males: I am yet to see any other race of provider say they do not service their own race.Being a provider can be a risky undertaking, no matter what race of people you're dealing with. It seems to me that nut cases and those who want to do harm can be found among all races. Just ask people like Ted Bundy and the Chinese guy who stuck up those massage places near Chinatown. The girls can never know for sure what they're dealing with when they take on a new customer, and it's foolish to have a sense of safety simply because the customer is not a black person.

That being said, there is possibly be one legitimate reason for being wary of black guys. They have a reputation for having those supersized wands that could potentially do career threatening damage, especially to small & tight Asians.

Dazhiba
04-26-12, 17:52
Seem's that there's a bit of inflation in some of the prices these days. Noticed the Asian apartment gals on Eros are now $.6 for 40 min and $$ or more for one full hour. Don't they know there's still a recession going on?

Sticky Rice
04-26-12, 18:38
Being a provider can be a risky undertaking, no matter what race of people you're dealing with. It seems to me that nut cases and those who want to do harm can be found among all races. Just ask people like Ted Bundy and the Chinese guy who stuck up those massage places near Chinatown. The girls can never know for sure what they're dealing with when they take on a new customer, and it's foolish to have a sense of safety simply because the customer is not a black person.

That being said, there is possibly be one legitimate reason for being wary of black guys. They have a reputation for having those supersized wands that could potentially do career threatening damage, especially to small & tight Asians.In my opinion, blacks don't do blacks and Indians don't do Indians cause it would be a awkward if you came across some one you knew. Asian apts don't limit race cause the girls get shipped around so much its unlikely anyone will recognize them.

Blame the media for the stereotypes on blacks, seems like they are they majority that are involved in murders, homicides etc.

Acid Black
04-26-12, 19:33
Today I Called a Skokie apt ad (312) 833-4825, was asked by the obvious Asian immigrant if I was white or black. Asked why, she says my girls don't see blacks. In solidarity with my rainbow-coalition monger brothers, I decided to hit an O'hare apt instead. Boycott Skokie until they give the brothers free BBJCIM! Power to the people!

Casper27
04-26-12, 20:52
In my opinion, blacks don't do blacks and Indians don't do Indians cause it would be a awkward if you came across some one you knew. Asian apts don't limit race cause the girls get shipped around so much its unlikely anyone will recognize them.

Blame the media for the stereotypes on blacks, seems like they are they majority that are involved in murders, homicides etc.Risky business indeed. Now I know the Asian apt. I frequented had clientele of African American descent this I know because I saw the gentleman tying his shoes as I was leaving one of the rooms. The thought I had at the moment was damn that lady must be wide open now cause she just took that man's sausage. The only color that matters to these ladies is green.

JohnSmith12
04-27-12, 03:04
I must have gone on an off day. Couple of weeks ago took a Friday off and took a plunge. I think I had the Puerto Rican you are describing blonde with hazel eyes. Except she was probably closer to 230 lbs about 5'4. Big fat ass. I don't mind the BBWs. Makes me feel I'm getting more for my money. Anyways she had on lingerie. She didn't let me roam and I thought for 150 I would get FS. Especially from BBW. All that was on menu was some titties in my mouth and a HJ. No finger fishin either. My hand was moved several times. She did moan a bit as she was strokin it. But to no avail. HJ was lacking technique. She did make an effort. But for 150. Lets face it. 10 bucks more and I could have gotten FS from a hot ass asian. These ghetto girls need to take some lessons in economics. Overall D-230 are you kidding me? Far from it your probably used to thin bony girls FUNNY you did take service and you guys complain? LOL if she was bad you wouldve left shits funny to me. She was mostly all ass well she let me roam. If most of these girls feel comfortable they let you and if they feel there being disrespected there not going trust me she was very kind and it was an amazing time I was able to drink chill and watch t. V. With her no rush massage unlike other places you go in flipped over 5 minutes later and told to leave. Overall a no rush massage and let me roam.

LongRanger99
04-27-12, 05:24
Today I Called a Skokie apt ad (312) 833-4825, was asked by the obvious Asian immigrant if I was white or black. Asked why, she says my girls don't see blacks. In solidarity with my rainbow-coalition monger brothers, I decided to hit an O'hare apt instead. Boycott Skokie until they give the brothers free BBJCIM! Power to the people!
Gents, just posted in the massage section about a Skokie outfit that doesn't service "the brothers". So I took my business to an O'hare spot. Easy to find hi-rise near Morton's. So ok looking Thai name Sunny, not the pic but we know that. Asked for donation 1. 6. Took a shower by myself. Not sure if she was into it. After shower, hopped on the bed for a massage. She has no massage skills but tried for 7 mins then stopped and said turnover. She got out of the negligee. Came over smiling. I offer her a massage and she accepts. I give her a hard massage for 10 mins. I'm trying to loosen her up for my special requests. She started playing with little dude but no BBJ, grabbed cover, I tried getting BBJ but no luck. She starts the CBJ. But it sucks (pun intended) because I really wanted BBJ. She notices my disinterest, lubes up and asks me to get on top (mish). I say no lets cuddle. We spoon and I ask her to slide it in. Slowly I'm stroking and she knows its going to be a long session. We dance, I kiss the neck and back, pull the hair and she's into it. I lift her leg up on mine to access the sweet spot and start rubbing her clit. She's into it even more. I'm thinking I'm the man! 20mins in the pussy. Rub some puss juice on her nips and squeeze them. She's moaning and my egos getting bigger. I tell her to turn on her belly, I'm still inside, now I'm on top with my weight adding momentum to my thrusts (F=MA). She's really moaning. I've been asking throughout how she feels, you like, etc. Now I'm hoping she's so into it that I can talk her into anal or BBJ. So I whisper, I want you to suck me. She asks why? I say I want to come in your mouth. She says no cum in mouth. I'm dissapointed. Can I cum on your tits? Yes. But fellas we've been pounding at least 30 mins. All this talk of cumming weakens my resolve and I start getting to that point, you know the cock is super hard and ready to blow. I accept my fate, pound harder she's moaning harder, says she's cumming (maybe?) and I bust a nut! Pull out, she takes the cover and we take a shower together. Looks: 7, face: 6, tits: 8, overall rating: 8.Okay: I think you just explained one of the reasons or if not the main reason why some providers don't see African Americans. Too much work to get their money / donation.

30 minutes before you pop your cork, the poor womam must have been tired as hell.

She would probably prefer if a guy poped his cork in 10 minutes or less. In this buisness / society there is no love here, the providers just want to make their money / donation and they want to make their money / donation as easily and as quickly as possible. Some providers even go so much as to say no one under 50. Why? Because they feel they can get a 50 year old to pop his cork in 5 minutes or less. Being 50 does not necessarily mean this is true but we all know that as age comes stamana goes.

JohnnyBeBad
04-27-12, 10:43
Any info on Q Spa on LaGrange Road. In Orland Park? Was passing by several days ago and saw two oriental ladies standing out front and they both looked pretty nice.

JuanPrimo
04-27-12, 10:50
She would probably prefer if a guy poped his cork in 10 minutes or less. In this buisness / society there is no love here, the providers just want to make their money / donation and they want to make their money / donation as easily and as quickly as possible. Some providers even go so much as to say no one under 50. Why? Because they feel they can get a 50 year old to pop his cork in 5 minutes or less. Being 50 does not necessarily mean this is true but we all know that as age comes stamana goes.I slightly disagree about the over 50 comment. The older I get, the longer it takes me to get off. It's a young guy's problem that they pop fast, but they can get two pops off in an hour when I work like hell to get one.

I asked a white girl about her "no AA" rule. According to her, blacks are too pushy and demanding. By the way, she said that Mexicans are too "amorous", meaning lovey-dovey. That's just one girl's opinion.

Davidonecall
04-27-12, 11:20
I agree, it do take longer for me as I get older or more stamina. I also asked about AA and was told something similar.


I slightly disagree about the over 50 comment. The older I get, the longer it takes me to get off. It's a young guy's problem that they pop fast, but they can get two pops off in an hour when I work like hell to get one.

I asked a white girl about her "no AA" rule. According to her, blacks are too pushy and demanding. By the way, she said that Mexicans are too "amorous", meaning lovey-dovey. That's just one girl's opinion.

Gfxchi
04-27-12, 16:16
Looks like Paradise had a fire or something. Not the usual City or Cook County closing. Just a board over one of the windows and a "remodeling" sign on the window.

Too bad. I was starting to like them a lot.

BigDog16
04-27-12, 17:16
Okay: I think you just explained one of the reasons or if not the main reason why some providers don't see African Americans. Too much work to get their money / donation.

30 minutes before you pop your cork, the poor womam must have been tired as hell.

She would probably prefer if a guy poped his cork in 10 minutes or less. In this buisness / society there is no love here, the providers just want to make their money / donation and they want to make their money / donation as easily and as quickly as possible. Some providers even go so much as to say no one under 50. Why? Because they feel they can get a 50 year old to pop his cork in 5 minutes or less. Being 50 does not necessarily mean this is true but we all know that as age comes stamana goes.The brothas are too damn beaucoup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUQsozpZUSw&feature=related

OPIllini
04-27-12, 18:35
Being a provider can be a risky undertaking, no matter what race of people you're dealing with. It seems to me that nut cases and those who want to do harm can be found among all races. Just ask people like Ted Bundy and the Chinese guy who stuck up those massage places near Chinatown. The girls can never know for sure what they're dealing with when they take on a new customer, and it's foolish to have a sense of safety simply because the customer is not a black person.

That being said, there is possibly be one legitimate reason for being wary of black guys. They have a reputation for having those supersized wands that could potentially do career threatening damage, especially to small & tight Asians.
I slightly disagree about the over 50 comment. The older I get, the longer it takes me to get off. It's a young guy's problem that they pop fast, but they can get two pops off in an hour when I work like hell to get one.

I asked a white girl about her "no AA" rule. According to her, blacks are too pushy and demanding. By the way, she said that Mexicans are too "amorous", meaning lovey-dovey. That's just one girl's opinion.Being an African-American myself this is obviously a sensitive issue. Personally, I have yet to experience any discrimination in any of my AMP / LMP visits. Nicky, I understand what you're saying because given the recent raids and Chinatown robberies I'm sure lots of places are being extra cautious these days. And I don't go to these places expecting FS; only extras I'd be wanting is a HJ and a little kissing / hugging. And Juan, I've never been pushy; in my visits I have always treated the ladies with respect and dignity. The times I've been shut out of extras I didn't make an issue; I accepted it and moved on.

The point I'm trying to make is that IMHO the only color that most providers are concerned about is green, in which how much of a tip they're going to get. I've found that if you treat them with respect they'll return the favor. BTW, I'm 40, and not one provider that I've seen has ever brought up my skin color. This is the 21st Century now and though I know there's still racism out here in the world, I'd hope that most people would look past the color of a person and rather judge them on their attitude / behavior.

And yes, I can do two pops in a hour if need be (LOL)!

Nighthawk1955
04-27-12, 18:40
My understanding was the Archer heist was done by an Asian.

OPIllini
04-27-12, 18:50
Have a friend that is African American and he has told me about some issues that he has ran into. He states that he has been to some white providers and when he shows up they will not let him in. States other times he will get service from white provider and when the provider feels safe around him they will let him return. It appears a lot of providers are afraid of young african american males. Any one of any race can act up or do some law less shit so not sure why african american males get singled out. The disturbing thing is that I see african american providers say no african american males: I am yet to see any other race of provider say they do not service their own race.Stereotypes have a quiet way of doing lots of harm. If only people would stop being so damn prejudiced. Get to know the client before you pass judgment. As I said in my last post I'm a 40-yr old African-American. Who happens to have a bachelor's degree from the University of Illinois (Urbana-Champaign) and makes a successful living with the CTA. I don't listen to rap or dress like a punk, and I always talk educated because that's how I feel comfortable.

LR you are right on: there are idiots across all races, but sadly with us AAs it takes only a few bad apples to spoil the whole barrel. Bottom line to these providers that do discriminate: get to know the person first. Regardless of race. And then if he treats you like a jerk, then you've got the right to deny him service. But prejudice really does leave a bad taste for all involved.

Okay, I'm finished with my social commentary here. Let's get back to doing what we do best here. Share monger tips and recommendations!

OPIllini
04-27-12, 18:51
My understanding was the Archer heist was done by an Asian.That's what I heard too.

Fredspy
04-27-12, 21:54
I believe they were planning to move into the florist space next door anyway. Perhaps they will do so and the space won't be so cramped.


Looks like Paradise had a fire or something. Not the usual City or Cook County closing. Just a board over one of the windows and a "remodeling" sign on the window.

Too bad. I was starting to like them a lot.

Lurker01
04-28-12, 00:16
Stereotypes have a quiet way of doing lots of harm. If only people would stop being so damn prejudiced. Get to know the client before you pass judgment. As I said in my last post I'm a 40-yr old African-American. Who happens to have a bachelor's degree from the University of Illinois (Urbana-Champaign) and makes a successful living with the CTA. I don't listen to rap or dress like a punk, and I always talk educated because that's how I feel comfortable.

LR you are right on: there are idiots across all races, but sadly with us AAs it takes only a few bad apples to spoil the whole barrel. Bottom line to these providers that do discriminate: get to know the person first. Regardless of race. And then if he treats you like a jerk, then you've got the right to deny him service. But prejudice really does leave a bad taste for all involved.

Okay, I'm finished with my social commentary here. Let's get back to doing what we do best here. Share monger tips and recommendations!Sad but true. Sometimes it's not the girl who"s bigoted. Sometimes her boyfriend doesn't want her doing black guys. Happens in porn too.

Gfxchi
04-28-12, 19:39
I believe they were planning to move into the florist space next door anyway. Perhaps they will do so and the space won't be so cramped.Ah, that would be nice. Will report back when I find out more.

OngBak15
04-29-12, 03:58
I have looked back at a few of my fav places, then I realized that during the time I became a monger, that some places were opening and then 2 years later that same place is closed. I stay in contact with the providers far more than I remember were I met them. This does not seem to be a very smart business model. I have talked to one or two owners of the spa, and they told me how much they had to invest to fix it up. Sure business can do very well depending on where your located but two years, then close is crazy. The only person that makes out is the person renting the space because they now have a fully fixed up space for the next person to rent. Am I missing something?

Casper27
04-29-12, 18:06
I have looked back at a few of my fav places, then I realized that during the time I became a monger, that some places were opening and then 2 years later that same place is closed. I stay in contact with the providers far more than I remember were I met them. This does not seem to be a very smart business model. I have talked to one or two owners of the spa, and they told me how much they had to invest to fix it up. Sure business can do very well depending on where your located but two years, then close is crazy. The only person that makes out is the person renting the space because they now have a fully fixed up space for the next person to rent. Am I missing something?I'm more curious to know whether the owners knew of what was happening in their businesses. Would their businesses have lasted the 2 years operating legitimately just providing massages and no happy endings. What happens to all these women who lose their place of employment. I know they must go and search in another mp but there is only so many in the city. Some of these places are closed due to complaining from neighbors so I doubt someone else would want to get in to the space without first finding out why it got shut down. I saw one woman who provided a good massage in her own place she had a room all set up with a table oils and also provided facials among other skin treatments. But this woman also had another job working at a bar. I guess what I'm saying is getting into the business is some very risky shit and competition is fierce with any woman setting up in their own apt. If you don't give the customer what he's looking for your probably not going to make it without a side job. Unless some of these AMP s have clients frequently coming in they aren't going to be open a long time. I know when I need an actual massage I have my place but I probably go once a month because the only other thing ill get there is a pair of blue balls hence the once a month visit if I have any back pain or sore muscles if not I don't go back in a long time.

Good luck to our remaining places of happiness and to all mongers stay safe

Nighthawk1955
04-29-12, 18:33
I'm more curious to know whether the owners knew of what was happening in their businesses. Would their businesses have lasted the 2 years operating legitimately just providing massages and no happy endings. What happens to all these women who lose their place of employment. I know they must go and search in another mp but there is only so many in the city. Some of these places are closed due to complaining from neighbors so I doubt someone else would want to get in to the space without first finding out why it got shut down. I saw one woman who provided a good massage in her own place she had a room all set up with a table oils and also provided facials among other skin treatments. But this woman also had another job working at a bar. I guess what I'm saying is getting into the business is some very risky shit and competition is fierce with any woman setting up in their own apt. If you don't give the customer what he's looking for your probably not going to make it without a side job. Unless some of these AMP s have clients frequently coming in they aren't going to be open a long time. I know when I need an actual massage I have my place but I probably go once a month because the only other thing ill get there is a pair of blue balls hence the once a month visit if I have any back pain or sore muscles if not I don't go back in a long time.

Good luck to our remaining places of happiness and to all mongers stay safeIt does not really matter if the owners know or not know what is going on. Hiring a non-licensced tech is illegal if she is fucking clients or playing checkers with them. Just as illegal.

I talked to a spa girl who told me she burned through a 1000 COUNT condom package. That means she made $80K-100K. Her spa then made at least $20k off her efforts. Sure there are risks but major rewards too.

Elpatron
04-29-12, 22:24
I just wanted to add a comment, some of this AMPs closed due to neighbors complains tha's true, but also all this AMPs that open are a TARGET to the leo because they know were they are located as soon as they open so is just a matter of time before LEO paid them a visit, first LEO send a couple undercover they get a few handshakes then the AMPs get busted is just a way of keeping LEO busy busting up all this AMPs, instead of going against the real criminals, looked this prostitution business is not going to end any time soon is here forever, they shall just legalized and get it over with. Stay safe treat the providers with respect is better for them to do the handshake then you helping your self doing it.


I have looked back at a few of my fav places, then I realized that during the time I became a monger, that some places were opening and then 2 years later that same place is closed. I stay in contact with the providers far more than I remember were I met them. This does not seem to be a very smart business model. I have talked to one or two owners of the spa, and they told me how much they had to invest to fix it up. Sure business can do very well depending on where your located but two years, then close is crazy. The only person that makes out is the person renting the space because they now have a fully fixed up space for the next person to rent. Am I missing something?

Casper27
04-29-12, 23:09
It does not really matter if the owners know or not know what is going on. Hiring a non-licensced tech is illegal if she is fucking clients or playing checkers with them. Just as illegal.

I talked to a spa girl who told me she burned through a 1000 COUNT condom package. That means she made $80K-100K. Her spa then made at least $20k off her efforts. Sure there are risks but major rewards too.This is what I'm talking about would that place where she was at have made all that business if she were just providing the massages. I'm saying how much do the owners really care about how much it cost them to set up the business when they are the ones knowingly putting themselves at risk when they employ unlicensed people and sometimes turn a blind eye to what they are doing. It's all good till our uncle shuts the place down.

Nighthawk1955
04-30-12, 11:30
This is what I'm talking about would that place where she was at have made all that business if she were just providing the massages. I'm saying how much do the owners really care about how much it cost them to set up the business when they are the ones knowingly putting themselves at risk when they employ unlicensed people and sometimes turn a blind eye to what they are doing. It's all good till our uncle shuts the place down.Just the cost of doing business. Spend $20k to make 200k.

Magooski
04-30-12, 19:40
They should just make sure they have their personal license. That seems to be a common charge, so nip it in the bud.


It does not really matter if the owners know or not know what is going on. Hiring a non-licensced tech is illegal if she is fucking clients or playing checkers with them. Just as illegal.

I talked to a spa girl who told me she burned through a 1000 COUNT condom package. That means she made $80K-100K. Her spa then made at least $20k off her efforts. Sure there are risks but major rewards too.

Golferfore
05-01-12, 10:29
Gents,

Great experience, just as the title says, started with a massage ended with the title.

Regards,

Gf.

Nighthawk1955
05-01-12, 11:43
They should just make sure they have their personal license. That seems to be a common charge, so nip it in the bud.That is what they are kind of doing. It costs $10K to get a license in IL (training & testing) so nobody want to do it.

The reality is this is all about racism. Half the hair salons in town advertise "massage" but the only places that get busted are asian places.

Straight up racism.

If all the white ladirs who give massage all over town started getting busted, people would be up in arms. See an Irish daughter or mother get hauled out of a salon in Bridgeport in cuffs and this shit would end TOMORROW.

My suggestion is you rat out every "legit" unlicensced massage tech you see.

Andyuwant
05-01-12, 16:53
Its been a while since my last post but this new massage parlor is so close to my work that I can see people going in. So the new Zen Spa on Fullerton and Clybourne I see cute oriental girls working the front desk but I can't just go in and ask for a massage since its to close to work. Any one tried this new place yet? Any reviews? I thought I would post since I just saw 3 guys go in.

Thanks

Ghostface89
05-01-12, 17:30
That is what they are kind of doing. It costs $10K to get a license in IL (training & testing) so nobody want to do it.

The reality is this is all about racism. Half the hair salons in town advertise "massage" but the only places that get busted are asian places.

Straight up racism.

If all the white ladirs who give massage all over town started getting busted, people would be up in arms. See an Irish daughter or mother get hauled out of a salon in Bridgeport in cuffs and this shit would end TOMORROW.

My suggestion is you rat out every "legit" unlicensced massage tech you see.Great observation Nighthawk! I just looked up the ritzy East Bank Club on the internet and they offer number of different massage options. Funny thing is. They never once mention if those doing massage are licensed. This is the health club where all the political bigwigs go.

Northwell
05-02-12, 00:04
Its been a while since my last post but this new massage parlor is so close to my work that I can see people going in. So the new Zen Spa on Fullerton and Clybourne I see cute oriental girls working the front desk but I can't just go in and ask for a massage since its to close to work. Any one tried this new place yet? Any reviews? I thought I would post since I just saw 3 guys go in.

ThanksI've seen the place as well and wondered if it is worth a stop. If I get some free time, I will toftt. Whenever that maybe.

I'm not crazy about the location. Lots of traffic

Amraam
05-02-12, 00:08
Zen Spa has 3 rooms and licensed therapists. New and clean.

A favorite therapist who formerly worked at Sunkiss is now at Zen.

Member #5933
05-02-12, 20:34
Couple weeks ago I was driving to Cubs game and exited onto Montrose off 94. Pretty quickly I seen a massage place on right side heading towards Wrigley. I was not able to stop or investigate but I'm hoping someone knows the place and has info? Its not to far for me so if its good ill check it out. Where I live (north subs) all the good places gone. I used to go to gq spa every two weeks religiously! Best time ever!

Eddinger
05-02-12, 20:44
Couple weeks ago I was driving to Cubs game and exited onto Montrose off 94. Pretty quickly I seen a massage place on right side heading towards Wrigley. I was not able to stop or investigate but I'm hoping someone knows the place and has info? Its not to far for me so if its good ill check it out. Where I live (north subs) all the good places gone. I used to go to gq spa every two weeks religiously! Best time ever!LOL. So you want us to tell you how a massage place is that you can't tell us the name or much more than "on the right side heading towards wrigley?" funny.

Well. Its awesome. Totally best massage joint in the city.

Northwell
05-03-12, 00:01
Zen Spa has 3 rooms and licensed therapists. New and clean.

A favorite therapist who formerly worked at Sunkiss is now at Zen.Any fun to be had?

Bbbuddy
05-03-12, 13:20
Had a session with Abby awhile back and give she was an alright looking woman I tried again. The first time was not that good, and if she is a liscensed masseuse then I am rahm emmaneul and I am not! I called them and left where I was early to make a 6:30 appointment. I get to the location and they kept me waiting 15 minutes, so I asked are they willing to give me a discount for my troubles and they said no can do. They must have more business then they can handle. The first time was akin to Taking one for the team. The only reason it was half way enjoyable was that she was a cute spinner with a nice ass. She supposed is trained and she doesn't bring any lotion and leaves her rings on while do the HJ which made it very unenjoyable. They do have attractive attendants so some of you will look past the deficiencies and go there anyways, but be warned it is a waste of time, and my second trip proved that literally as I wasted time and gas to be kept waiting.

Rito1
05-03-12, 13:49
That is what they are kind of doing. It costs $10K to get a license in IL (training & testing) so nobody want to do it.

The reality is this is all about racism. Half the hair salons in town advertise "massage" but the only places that get busted are asian places.

Straight up racism.

If all the white ladirs who give massage all over town started getting busted, people would be up in arms. See an Irish daughter or mother get hauled out of a salon in Bridgeport in cuffs and this shit would end TOMORROW.

My suggestion is you rat out every "legit" unlicensced massage tech you see.I am from Boston and it's the same kind of deal here with the massage licence. However here if you do "bodywork" you do not need a licence so that what they all do. If you call and say I need a massage they say we don't do massage just bodywork. And really what that means is if you see bodywork just subtitute that for handjob.

Eddinger
05-03-12, 14:18
Hey. Just so everyone is clear, I was just being sarcastic since the OP gave such little info as to what the place was. I presume is Zeus, but who knows. Theres about 5 massage joints on montrose between the highway and wrigley.

Anyhow. It was just sarcasm, so no need to PM me asking for details. I have none.


LOL. So you want us to tell you how a massage place is that you can't tell us the name or much more than "on the right side heading towards wrigley?" funny.

Well. Its awesome. Totally best massage joint in the city.

OPIllini
05-03-12, 20:40
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/we-offer-healing-tui-natherapeutic-massage-and-acupuncture-chinatown/11420839

Saw this yesterday on BP. Anyone been here yet? If so was it worthwhile? Thinking of TOFTT this weekend. PM if you like

OPIllini
05-03-12, 20:54
Seems as though Pro Beauty on Irving Park / Austin is legit now. I had heard that Aida was no longer providing HJs so last night I thought I'd go see for myself. I was hoping since I'd seen her a couple of previous times that it'd be different with me (she had provided HJ my 1st time). Well, I started with a TS and while it was fine Aida avoided my jewels and stick, so I knew it was a bad sign. Sure enough, after an otherwise good massage (she really is recommended for legit massage because she works out lots of kinks from the body) nothing doing with extras. I even grabbed my stick in the hopes that would encourage her to provide a HE but she said,"I'm sorry but my boss says no, trouble. But you can finish yourself", and then she gives me a paper towel and leaves the room. Needless to say I wasn't going to self-serve so I left her a. 1 tip. Aida says as I'm leaving,"Maybe next time" but I'm not so sure there will be a next time. It sucks because she really is a very good masseuse but to me a massage just is not complete without that 'extra' at the end. So much for that; got to keep looking for that right place where you get both a great massage and guranteed extras.

GreekTown
05-03-12, 22:23
I belong to a gym down the st from east bank club and the trainers give massages.

No way do they have licences.

Lets start a petition!


Great observation Nighthawk! I just looked up the ritzy East Bank Club on the internet and they offer number of different massage options. Funny thing is. They never once mention if those doing massage are licensed. This is the health club where all the political bigwigs go.

Ucdiv
05-04-12, 01:33
Went to Halsted tonight. Walked in, saw a very good looking mature Latina. Wanted her, but some midget troll Asian took over. I was walking back to the TS and saw a thinner Asian with a better body. Asked for her and the troll and her started going at it. Got undressed for the TS. Asked for the taller thinner Asian but couldn't communicate with the little troll. Finally I said to hell with it and was ready to leave. Another monger was getting ready to pay and was asking for the thinner Asian and was getting her. I was annoyed at that. They were taking their time getting me my money. Then the other monger saw the Latina and said,"Can I get her?" She said,"Sure, I'll go another half hour." Asians started fighting amongst another verbally, trying to get me to stay, not liking the fact that the Latina was in demand. Finally got my money and left. I hope the other guy got the Latina. The troll was f*ing hideous and the thinner Asian had a good body but a horse face. Wasted night.

Gopher88
05-04-12, 18:04
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/we-offer-healing-tui-natherapeutic-massage-and-acupuncture-chinatown/11420839

Saw this yesterday on BP. Anyone been here yet? If so was it worthwhile? Thinking of TOFTT this weekend. PM if you like



I got there around 11:am no one there. Called the number on the door. Guy told me I needed a Apointment. I made one for 11:30. Sat in my car out front. Seen a good looking gal go in. I went up stairs 2en Floor Unit 2, 2 Small rooms. Have to go thro the first room to get to the sencond. Its a corner office vertical blinds on 2 sides of the rooms very brite there still painting the place. Bathroom down the hall. Paid the door fee. There she was the chick I seen walking in the front door. Nice looking well built China Doll. Told me she 35 and her name is Kerry, use to work on Fullerton no name. Realy good massage she know's what she doing. No teasing at all. Got to the end of massage show her what I wanted. She said not here.

OPIllini
05-04-12, 18:47
I got there around 11:am no one there. Called the number on the door. Guy told me I needed a Apointment. I made one for 11:30. Sat in my car out front. Seen a good looking gal go in. I went up stairs 2en Floor Unit 2, 2 Small rooms. Have to go thro the first room to get to the sencond. Its a corner office vertical blinds on 2 sides of the rooms very brite there still painting the place. Bathroom down the hall. Paid the door fee. There she was the chick I seen walking in the front door. Nice looking well built China Doll. Told me she 35 and her name is Kerry, use to work on Fullerton no name. Realy good massage she know's what she doing. No teasing at all. Got to the end of massage show her what I wanted. She said not here.Well that stinks. So much for TOFTT. Not interested if there's not going to be an ending. Guess maybe later on they'll loosen up

LongRanger99
05-04-12, 19:33
Zen Spa has 3 rooms and licensed therapists. New and clean.

A favorite therapist who formerly worked at Sunkiss is now at Zen.So after everthings is said and done; Is Z. Spa a thumbs up or thumbs down?

BigChiGuy44
05-05-12, 00:52
So, I was sitting at home contemplating between going to the gym, or getting a relaxing massage. Seeing as I am a monger first, I chose the latter. I decided to visit a place thats only a few miles from me, and coincidentally shares the same name as a club in the Venetian in Vegas. I had been here once before, several years back I drunkenly wandered in after the super bowl and only remember leaving with a set of blue plums.

This time was way different. I recommend that you call and make an appointment, even though they always accommodate walk ins. Mamasan always asks that you call, so when you do, you look like a regular. I pull up, a lot of activity in the entry way, I decide to wait it out in my car until it dies down. After watching some old, and presumably drunk monger hug the lady at the desk about 4 times they finally take him to the back.

I walk in, pay the door, .65 plus table shower. 10 so. 75 all day. Usually I will not pay for the table shower but I wasn't sure where my night would take me and the last thing I needed was to go back home to my fiancé feeling like a greased up pig. (pun intended) I go to the room, which is climate controlled and very nicely appointed, undress and drape the towel about halfway down, my bat signal. Mei, which I assume is pronounced the same way as the month begins the massage, and it feels pretty darn good. Her hands are working my back, going all the way down to the buns in long strokes, which usually means I'll be in luck. As the massage processes she gets towards the legs, and I am starting to rock up as she's rubbing the back of my thighs. After a good 40 minutes of true swedish massage, relaxing rubbing with good pressure, the strokes towards my legs start to brush the boys. She had grazed them once or twice by this point, but I wasn't as sure because I had been here once unsuccessfully, but as they say, nothing ventured nothing gained. It is at this point we go for the flip and I am at full attention. She asks if I'd like to cover up, which I politely decline. She starts rubbing my stomach just above, and legs just below. After teasing me for close to ten minutes she realizes little Bigchiguy is not going down. She asks if the last person took good care of him, to which I agreed. SIDE NOTE: RTFF really helps out when it comes to visiting an AMP you've never been to before. Being able to throw out a few names really boosts your fred and in this case got me a phenomenal handshake. Since the funds have been pretty sparse I've decided to stay the AMP course because it keeps me out of trouble. All things considered door. 75 plus tip. 40 and I am out the door for 115. .15 more than I feel should be spent at an AMP, but considering Therapy is. 05 cheaper, and super scummy compared to this place, I feel no buyers remorse.

Happy Hunting and Stay Safe,

BigChiGuy

Amraam
05-05-12, 11:49
So after everthings is said and done; Is Z. Spa a thumbs up or thumbs down?That depends on how much mileage you're looking for. If you're satisfied with Sunkiss-type teasing, then Zen Spa is worth a visit.

OPIllini
05-05-12, 13:26
So, I was sitting at home contemplating between going to the gym, or getting a relaxing massage. Seeing as I am a monger first, I chose the latter. I decided to visit a place thats only a few miles from me, and coincidentally shares the same name as a club in the Venetian in Vegas. I had been here once before, several years back I drunkenly wandered in after the super bowl and only remember leaving with a set of blue plums.

This time was way different. I recommend that you call and make an appointment, even though they always accommodate walk ins. Mamasan always asks that you call, so when you do, you look like a regular. I pull up, a lot of activity in the entry way, I decide to wait it out in my car until it dies down. After watching some old, and presumably drunk monger hug the lady at the desk about 4 times they finally take him to the back.

I walk in, pay the door, .65 plus table shower. 10 so. 75 all day. Usually I will not pay for the table shower but I wasn't sure where my night would take me and the last thing I needed was to go back home to my fiancé feeling like a greased up pig. (pun intended) I go to the room, which is climate controlled and very nicely appointed, undress and drape the towel about halfway down, my bat signal. Mei, which I assume is pronounced the same way as the month begins the massage, and it feels pretty darn good. Her hands are working my back, going all the way down to the buns in long strokes, which usually means I'll be in luck. As the massage processes she gets towards the legs, and I am starting to rock up as she's rubbing the back of my thighs. After a good 40 minutes of true swedish massage, relaxing rubbing with good pressure, the strokes towards my legs start to brush the boys. She had grazed them once or twice by this point, but I wasn't as sure because I had been here once unsuccessfully, but as they say, nothing ventured nothing gained. It is at this point we go for the flip and I am at full attention. She asks if I'd like to cover up, which I politely decline. She starts rubbing my stomach just above, and legs just below. After teasing me for close to ten minutes she realizes little Bigchiguy is not going down. She asks if the last person took good care of him, to which I agreed. SIDE NOTE: RTFF really helps out when it comes to visiting an AMP you've never been to before. Being able to throw out a few names really boosts your fred and in this case got me a phenomenal handshake. Since the funds have been pretty sparse I've decided to stay the AMP course because it keeps me out of trouble. All things considered door. 75 plus tip. 40 and I am out the door for 115. .15 more than I feel should be spent at an AMP, but considering Therapy is. 05 cheaper, and super scummy compared to this place, I feel no buyers remorse.

Happy Hunting and Stay Safe,

BigChiGuyWhat place is this? Where is it? Feel free to PM if you'd prefer

Northwell
05-05-12, 16:34
So after everthings is said and done; Is Z. Spa a thumbs up or thumbs down?Zen Spa is not worth the visit. I went with the 30min w TS. $55. The woman I got was a 4/10. I couldn't even will myself to get an erection. Did see a cutie cleaning but she was off limits.

Upon entering the room, greeted by a sign that says "massage only. No extra services". The massage was pleasant but I didn't leave feeling refreshed. I've had better chair massages at the mall. Covered the entire time and covered during TS. No teasing of any sorts.

Threw her a $10 tip and left educated. Add in tough parking and a very busy intersection and I give negative stars. Afterwards I drove to an ATF and had an excellent time.

Northwell
05-05-12, 16:38
What place is this? Where is it? Feel free to PM if you'd preferI was also wondering, There is a Tao in the Venetian

OPIllini
05-05-12, 17:13
Zen Spa is not worth the visit. I went with the 30min w TS. $55. The woman I got was a 4/10. I couldn't even will myself to get an erection. Did see a cutie cleaning but she was off limits.

Upon entering the room, greeted by a sign that says "massage only. No extra services". The massage was pleasant but I didn't leave feeling refreshed. I've had better chair massages at the mall. Covered the entire time and covered during TS. No teasing of any sorts.

Threw her a $10 tip and left educated. Add in tough parking and a very busy intersection and I give negative stars. Afterwards I drove to an ATF and had an excellent time.Thanks for the post Northwell. Seems as if Zen, Unwind, and Beijing Health Care (the place I asked about in a recent post; Gopher already TOFTT to no avail) have been legit since they recently opened. Since they've been advertising a lot on BP you'd think there'd be extras going on but apparently that's not the case. Or maybe it's a case where the girls there will do them only if they've had previous relationships with clients; newcomers would be the ones getting shut out.

Stephen6868
05-06-12, 16:06
Then saw a Latina named Lola she's 23 has kids but you couldn't notice, and she's thicker but no muffin top or anything. Long black hair and decent size tits but her ass is WAY bigger then Bella and her thighs couldn't even slip in to play because her cheecks were so damn tight nice big ass, did a HJ for. 50 with her she's single and has no bf all she does is work and boy does she get into it. Started with a nice

A tity F* then she got on top between my legs and started working me moaning I could feel her get wet and warm sucking my fingers while stroking me, finally I unload ll over her face.Did she allow cof or was it a suprise? LOL. I've been seeing liz since it was just her and andrea over on long. I've had experiences with almost every girl she has had. Except maybe two. I'm interested in lola with the cof option. All the other girls have always been very nice and willing but that along with BBBJ has never been an option. Funds are low for this month, so unless I win the lotto I won't be going there for a few weeks. Fell free to pm.

Thanks

Nighthawk1955
05-06-12, 19:17
Thanks for the post Northwell. Seems as if Zen, Unwind, and Beijing Health Care (the place I asked about in a recent post; Gopher already TOFTT to no avail) have been legit since they recently opened. Since they've been advertising a lot on BP you'd think there'd be extras going on but apparently that's not the case. Or maybe it's a case where the girls there will do them only if they've had previous relationships with clients; newcomers would be the ones getting shut out.They all still use unlicensed girls, so they still break the law.

Ghostface89
05-07-12, 10:49
Doesn't the law state that a massage license must be on display at the establishment?

I was at an Xsport Health Club last night and looked around the massage sign-in desk and saw nothing. (The girls were not there, probably still celebrating Cinco weekend.) Xsport has a big sign in the window advertising massage. (They call it Relax Massage. And I flash back to the old Archer original Relax!) They also have signs over the urinals for massage!

Where is Tom Dart and his morals police on this one?

Pna
05-07-12, 13:47
As a wise guy once said,"What I used to be able to do all night, now takes me all night to do."


I agree, it do take longer for me as I get older or more stamina. I also asked about AA and was told something similar.

Nighthawk1955
05-07-12, 14:16
Doesn't the law state that a massage license must be on display at the establishment?

I was at an Xsport Health Club last night and looked around the massage sign-in desk and saw nothing. (The girls were not there, probably still celebrating Cinco weekend.) Xsport has a big sign in the window advertising massage. (They call it Relax Massage. And I flash back to the old Archer original Relax!) They also have signs over the urinals for massage!

Where is Tom Dart and his morals police on this one?I don't know if they need to be displayed, but the tech needs to be licensed. You are on point. There are plenty of places using unlicensed techs. Some rasist is just coming down on the asian girls.

White women hate asian girls. The hate that they are slim, hate that they kerp their looks and think they are trained to be submissive to men. (Of course, anyone married to or dating one knows differently).

White women hate the competition presented by asian women.

GreekTown
05-07-12, 15:38
Signs over the urinals for massage!

No way take a picture and post it.


Doesn't the law state that a massage license must be on display at the establishment?

I was at an Xsport Health Club last night and looked around the massage sign-in desk and saw nothing. (The girls were not there, probably still celebrating Cinco weekend.) Xsport has a big sign in the window advertising massage. (They call it Relax Massage. And I flash back to the old Archer original Relax!) They also have signs over the urinals for massage!

Where is Tom Dart and his morals police on this one?

Sticky Rice
05-07-12, 18:43
I don't know if they need to be displayed, but the tech needs to be licensed. You are on point. There are plenty of places using unlicensed techs. Some rasist is just coming down on the asian girls.

White women hate asian girls. The hate that they are slim, hate that they kerp their looks and think they are trained to be submissive to men. (Of course, anyone married to or dating one knows differently).

White women hate the competition presented by asian women.I'm not quite sure its racism at all. The city has a handful of licenses owned by asians and a gazilion asian msssage places.

Theyre just following the red flags.

Moccdawg
05-07-12, 22:00
Doesn't the law state that a massage license must be on display at the establishment?

I was at an Xsport Health Club last night and looked around the massage sign-in desk and saw nothing. (The girls were not there, probably still celebrating Cinco weekend.) Xsport has a big sign in the window advertising massage. (They call it Relax Massage. And I flash back to the old Archer original Relax!) They also have signs over the urinals for massage!

Where is Tom Dart and his morals police on this one?It is Spa Profiling, Solon Profiling or Massage Profiling. What ever you want to call it, they are trying to hit the places where they can get the most bang for your tax dollars. LOL, so to speak. Why go after X-Sports for one girl when you can tag 4 to 10 girls at a Spa along with multiple violations? If and when they dry up those spots, they might go to X-Sports then, but it is highly doubtful.

Nighthawk1955
05-08-12, 09:08
I'm not quite sure its racism at all. The city has a handful of licenses owned by asians and a gazilion asian msssage places.

Theyre just following the red flags.Asians make up the minority of unlicensed massage providers in Chicago but the overwhelming majority of arrests and busts. Racism.

Ghostface89
05-08-12, 10:18
Signs over the urinals for massage!

No way take a picture and post it.I will attempt to have my friend take a phone pic and post it here. I am pretty bad with technology.

Nicky Forza
05-08-12, 10:22
It is Spa Profiling, Solon Profiling or Massage Profiling. What ever you want to call it, they are trying to hit the places where they can get the most bang for your tax dollars. LOL, so to speak. Why go after X-Sports for one girl when you can tag 4 to 10 girls at a Spa along with multiple violations? If and when they dry up those spots, they might go to X-Sports then, but it is highly doubtful.Ha ha, You are so right, but I don't think they are worried too much about your tax dollars. My take is that a larger number of arrests is mainly an effort to justify and secure their assignment to those nice soft / safe units, thereby avoiding having to work the patrol cars, doing the work of grunts & risking an injury.

Arachnarach
05-08-12, 10:50
I saw Angela at Alice's right before they shut down and had a great time. I'm hoping that someone has some information on where she might be working. After the session she showed me her phone (she had just gotten a smart phone that she was having trouble figuring out). I'm kicking myself now for not getting her phone number. I know people don't give info to people who don't post so here is some of my experiences:

Lillyathealth accupuncture: I've seen her a couple times. She gives a great massage and wonderful release. Nothing else on the table as far as I can tell.

Ruby: Don't know the name. Younger girl. Beautiful body. Didn't seem that into it. Self release.

Sunkiss: Don't know name. Great massage. Same as what other people say. Nothing on the table except feeling up her amazing ass.

SherryatTpro: great time. Beautiful young woman. Friendly with a great personality. I experienced a lot with her.

I love older asian women with great tits. I know there are a lot out there, but not that many who are friendly and into it. Any info on Angela or other similar providers would be much appreciated.

OPIllini
05-09-12, 21:14
Asians make up the minority of unlicensed massage providers in Chicago but the overwhelming majority of arrests and busts. Racism.Two thumbs up Nighthawk. You rarely if ever hear about busts going on in the Euro places so it does make you wonder.

OPIllini
05-10-12, 18:28
Last weekend I TOFTT at a foot massage place in Chinatown (247 W. Cermak, a few doors down from the old B&B). .2 for 1/2 hour, .35 for 1 hour. I never done foot massages so I said "why not give it a try?" I entered and a young, hot-looking Chinese woman greeted me pleasantly. I opted for 1/2 hour. There was another man inside already getting his feet massaged. The setup is nails and hair in the front of the salon and foot massages in the back. Unfortunately there's no 'back room' (at least as far as I could tell) and everything is in plain view from the street with no shades. Honestly I thought that all I was getting was a foot massage but surprisingly (in a good way) it turned into a full body massage. Of course given the setup my clothes must stay on but the therapist did manage to do some nice work on my back by reaching underneath my shirt. It's the opposite of an AMP in which at first while your feet are soaking in a tub of water you are on your back, and then on the 'flip' you're on your stomach. I wound up getting a whole hour because it felt so good; too bad this wasn't a real AMP. As I said this girl that greeted me and did the massage was hot-looking and wearing a pink dress that had a bowtie in the front; she also had on fishnet pantyhose and heels. I'd have loved to have some action with her but I didn't see a 'back room' where that could've been possible. If any vets here have gotten extras from this place (or similar places) please feel free to PM me. Thanks and stay safe!

Northwell
05-10-12, 23:55
Last weekend I TOFTT at a foot massage place in Chinatown (247 W. Cermak, a few doors down from the old B&B). .2 for 1/2 hour, .35 for 1 hour. I never done foot massages so I said "why not give it a try?" I entered and a young, hot-looking Chinese woman greeted me pleasantly. I opted for 1/2 hour. There was another man inside already getting his feet massaged. The setup is nails and hair in the front of the salon and foot massages in the back. Unfortunately there's no 'back room' (at least as far as I could tell) and everything is in plain view from the street with no shades. Honestly I thought that all I was getting was a foot massage but surprisingly (in a good way) it turned into a full body massage. Of course given the setup my clothes must stay on but the therapist did manage to do some nice work on my back by reaching underneath my shirt. It's the opposite of an AMP in which at first while your feet are soaking in a tub of water you are on your back, and then on the 'flip' you're on your stomach. I wound up getting a whole hour because it felt so good; too bad this wasn't a real AMP. As I said this girl that greeted me and did the massage was hot-looking and wearing a pink dress that had a bowtie in the front; she also had on fishnet pantyhose and heels. I'd have loved to have some action with her but I didn't see a 'back room' where that could've been possible. If any vets here have gotten extras from this place (or similar places) please feel free to PM me. Thanks and stay safe!I have a similar place near Argyle that I go for a haircut and a 1hr foot massage combo. Total cost is like 55. 00.

Anyways it sounds very similar and I have had the same thoughts but have never gotten enough of a signal that anything would be available. Fun to consider if nothing else.

Mojorzn
05-14-12, 10:44
Work in the Wilmette area and wondering if anyone has suggestions for massage girl, independent or spa, in the area? Thanks!

BigJim4
05-14-12, 13:04
So TOFTT and I'm glad I did. I think her name was Carrie. She was white and very slender. I'm kind of tired of all the fat Latins. LOL.

Anyway very clean location kinda looks like they just opened because it has that new empty feeling. The rooms however are very comfortable and Carrie made me feel at home in time. Right after I got "donation" of $ out the way our clothes came off and the fun began. Senior members PM willing to exchange details for leads.

http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs.on-23/11591627

Pna
05-14-12, 13:31
Foot massage places are the new 'McDonald's' of massage. No extras, but dependable service at reasonable prices. In the 'burbs there's Happy Feet with 3 locations (2 in Naperville. 1 in Villa Park in the same mall where Alma Natural was) and costs $45 / hr. I usually go to FeetFeel spa (2 locations. 75th & Lemont Road and Butterfield & Finley in the DG area). They give you a 50 minute massage for $29. What a deal!


I have a similar place near Argyle that I go for a haircut and a 1hr foot massage combo. Total cost is like 55. 00.

Anyways it sounds very similar and I have had the same thoughts but have never gotten enough of a signal that anything would be available. Fun to consider if nothing else.

Nighthawk1955
05-14-12, 14:55
I am so sick of Chicago, I need to take a trip to somewhere with a decent AMP scene. Is Toronto my best bet? Or is there a place in the USA that beats it?

What are the 5 best AMP cities in the USA?

Eddinger
05-14-12, 16:42
Asians make up the minority of unlicensed massage providers in Chicago but the overwhelming majority of arrests and busts. Racism.I'm just guessing here, but I bet you just made that up because it would be helpful to you were it true. Any number you can point to to prove this?

Gopher88
05-14-12, 22:47
I am so sick of Chicago, I need to take a trip to somewhere with a decent AMP scene. Is Toronto my best bet? Or is there a place in the USA that beats it?

What are the 5 best AMP cities in the USA?Who will run the town when your gorn? Who's capable? Alice Maybe, She has nothing else to do these day's.

LongRanger99
05-15-12, 00:37
I am so sick of Chicago, I need to take a trip to somewhere with a decent AMP scene. Is Toronto my best bet? Or is there a place in the USA that beats it?

What are the 5 best AMP cities in the USA?I am not sure if they are the best but I will definitely say New Jersey and Ohio has alot of good places. Not sure what you are looking for but there are some nice places in the Chicago area but you will need to shop around or have a senior bird whisper in your ear.

ReallyBigPerv
05-15-12, 08:39
I am so sick of Chicago, I need to take a trip to somewhere with a decent AMP scene. Is Toronto my best bet? Or is there a place in the USA that beats it?

What are the 5 best AMP cities in the USA?I've always heard great things about Providence RI.

Nighthawk1955
05-15-12, 09:14
I'm just guessing here, but I bet you just made that up because it would be helpful to you were it true. Any number you can point to to prove this?Go to the city of Chicago business affairs website. They list all of the massage establishments that have been closed. The majority are asian, a couple are latin. There has not been any significant closures of "white" places. Yet half the hair salons in town offer massages of one type or the other. Thete is simply no way everyone offering massage at the hair salons is licensed. No way. Yet none of these places have been shut down. The facts are there.

Nighthawk1955
05-15-12, 09:18
I am not sure if they are the best but I will definitely say New Jersey and Ohio has alot of good places. Not sure what you are looking for but there are some nice places in the Chicago area but you will need to shop around or have a senior bird whisper in your ear. (I was a senoir as Nighthawk55, but lost the login info and changed e-mail) I don't want any secret bat signal stuff. Or Unwind-style bait-and-switch. My monger budget is overflowing and I want to go somewhere that the AMPs are sure things. And I don't want a 12 hour flight to do it.

Nighthawk1955
05-15-12, 09:20
Who will run the town when your gorn? Who's capable? Alice Maybe, She has nothing else to do these day's.Alice & CiCi will whip this city into shape.

Moccdawg
05-15-12, 10:11
I am so sick of Chicago, I need to take a trip to somewhere with a decent AMP scene. Is Toronto my best bet? Or is there a place in the USA that beats it?

What are the 5 best AMP cities in the USA?You gave yourself where to look, the "A" in AMP. You just have to be willing to pay the price. I have been to Philipines, Thailand, and Sinagpore to name a few, you will find both good and bad deals for travel, hotels, and girls, just know the laws, there is an international version of the site that covers this info. I will say that if you are pay for a hotel yourself, a $20-$30 room a day is good enough if it is clean and has A / C, no need to spend $120-$175 a day for a room unless you want to. I would highly suggest as in your own words: "RTFF".

Work Much
05-15-12, 13:23
I am so sick of Chicago, I need to take a trip to somewhere with a decent AMP scene. Is Toronto my best bet? Or is there a place in the USA that beats it?

What are the 5 best AMP cities in the USA?I've heard good things in Ohio and Dallas. Several AMPs on the same street and LEO leaving everyone alone.

Member #5933
05-15-12, 16:14
Passed this place the other day. Anyone been there? Any info? Pm me please

Don Marco12
05-15-12, 20:06
I am so sick of Chicago, I need to take a trip to somewhere with a decent AMP scene. Is Toronto my best bet? Or is there a place in the USA that beats it?

What are the 5 best AMP cities in the USA?I have heard good things about Ohio.

New Jersey has good AMP and European MP scene. Entire NJ scene is good. Atlantic City was fun so is North Jersey.

But Rhode Island takes the cake IMO. Bit costly but girls normally were young and hot. There was a loophole in RI law which made sex inside a booth / room kinda legal or at the most you would get slap on the wrist. They have removed that loophole some 2 years back now. I don't think any AMPs have been raided in Providence, RI even after law was changed not sure though. I have not been in RI for now 3-4 yrs now but during heydays One Spa, Lilys, Downtown Spa, ABC were awesome. Amazing girls there. Girls would keep changing. They would normally travel from SF and NYC.

Headmasterstl
05-15-12, 20:10
Due to job, I am in the NW Suburbs 2-4 times / month. I'm seeking a local provider who is affordable for regular visits and most importantly who gives world-class BBBJTC, prefer NQNS but I have no problem with NQBS. Age / looks not as important as talent, although all things being equal, easy on the eyes is a nice tie breaker. I'm a very experienced hobbyist, considered very good looking, respectful, always ultra clean and I know how to treat a lady. I prefer someone near Hoffman Estates / Schaumburg but I always have a car and anywhere within 20-10 min or someone who will come to my upscale hotel. If you're ever in St. L, I'm more than happy to reciprocate.

LongRanger99
05-15-12, 20:19
Due to job, I am in the NW Suburbs 2-4 times / month. I'm seeking a local provider who is affordable for regular visits and most importantly who gives world-class BBBJTC, prefer NQNS but I have no problem with NQBS. Age / looks not as important as talent, although all things being equal, easy on the eyes is a nice tie breaker. I'm a very experienced hobbyist, considered very good looking, respectful, always ultra clean and I know how to treat a lady. I prefer someone near Hoffman Estates / Schaumburg but I always have a car and anywhere within 20-10 min or someone who will come to my upscale hotel. If you're ever in St. L, I'm more than happy to reciprocate.



singleschoice; city vibe and backpage

You are not going to find street walkers in the Schaumburg/Hoffman Estates area.

Lastly And Foremostly !!! RTFF !!!

Jadedone
05-15-12, 20:49
I've heard good things in Ohio and Dallas. Several AMPs on the same street and LEO leaving everyone alone.I was in Dallas a few months ago and had a great time at one of the local AMPs. It's kind of a weird setup (you are right, there are about 4-5 differnt AMP's in one pseudo strip mall, and once you are in, you can't say "massage") , but it was nice. You get to pick your girl and I had a choice of three young, cute girls. And there was no haggling over price.

It sucked coming back to Chicago.

Mad Ivan
05-15-12, 20:55
Passed this place the other day. Anyone been there? Any info? Pm me pleaseIt's been a while since I went there, but it has been a reasonably decent TS+HE experience every time. Nothing extraordinary, nothing bad.

Maestromaestro
05-15-12, 23:10
Where in Ohio? Only place I know in Ohio is Warren and it's pretty good.


I've heard good things in Ohio and Dallas. Several AMPs on the same street and LEO leaving everyone alone.

Work Much
05-16-12, 10:22
Where in Ohio? Only place I know in Ohio is Warren and it's pretty good.I was thinking of Warren too.

HenrySmall
05-16-12, 15:28
Thinking of TOFTT but I figured I would ping the board to see if anyone has any intel on this one.

They are on Devon and Richmond. Eastern European answers the phone.7 hr quoted.

http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/try-a-magic-of-european-full-body-massage-all-chicagoland/9418192

Cheers!

Hank

Elpatron
05-16-12, 15:56
This is a waste of time I went in there a couple weeks ago, nice European girl but lousy massage no options, no nothing paid. 7 for the massage oh bye the way this is a dentist office.


Thinking of TOFTT but I figured I would ping the board to see if anyone has any intel on this one.

They are on Devon and Richmond. Eastern European answers the phone. 7 hr quoted.

http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/try-a-magic-of-european-full-body-massage-all-chicagoland/9418192

Cheers!

Hank

Gopher88
05-16-12, 22:47
I've heard good things in Ohio and Dallas. Several AMPs on the same street and LEO leaving everyone alone.I'm a old trucker, Use to pull for a company out of Akron in the 80's tons of MP's. Use to love to lay over there.

Good old day's. 25 WOW

OPIllini
05-16-12, 23:44
Found out tonight that May from T-Pro will be returning to China next week and will not return until August. Got the usual so-so rub and decent HJ. But she's got a fun and playful personality and I will miss her. So in addition to leaving the standard tip I gave her another. 4 Total damage was $.1 plus the additional. 4. Before you guys let me h tave it I feel that if a provider has been really sweet to you on all your visits there's nothing wrong with showing your appreciation. Hurry and see her before she goes

Eddinger
05-17-12, 10:31
The city is pretty dry right now, and the ones that exist end up costing you around 100-120 for a HJ anyhow. Its much easier to call up the asian apt by the airport and just fuck a hot girl for 160, than to fuss about getting a measly hand job for 100.

Truthfu11
05-17-12, 19:26
This is a waste of time I went in there a couple weeks ago, nice European girl but lousy massage no options, no nothing paid. 7 for the massage oh bye the way this is a dentist office.2 out of 3 were okay experiences. Younger girl was legit only. 2 older women were okay. PM for more details.

OPIllini
05-17-12, 20:29
The city is pretty dry right now, and the ones that exist end up costing you around 100-120 for a HJ anyhow. Its much easier to call up the asian apt by the airport and just fuck a hot girl for 160, than to fuss about getting a measly hand job for 100.Definitely agreed with Eddinger. Looks like I'll be going to the Lake / Mannheim area bars for awhile, and when I do go AMPing it'll be to United in Norridge. Last night I thought I was doing May a favor by giving her an extra. 4 because she's leaving T-Pro and returning to China. Well, it dawned on me this morning that I overpaid for the HJ she gave me. I was going to leave the standard. 4 then foolishly instead of giving her an additional. 2 I gave her. 4 (she said it was because I sucked on her tits, which BTW aren't all that). Never again with that. From now on I'm only bringing to an AMP the money I plan on spending and if the provider wants more, too bad.

Bottom line: I'm out of the AMP scene (at least in the city) for awhile. Suburbs may not be all that great either but I believe they actually hassle you less over tips and services (at least that's been my experience). Strip clubs, here I come!

LongRanger99
05-18-12, 00:31
Definitely agreed with Eddinger. Looks like I'll be going to the Lake / Mannheim area bars for awhile, and when I do go AMPing it'll be to United in Norridge. Last night I thought I was doing May a favor by giving her an extra. 4 because she's leaving T-Pro and returning to China. Well, it dawned on me this morning that I overpaid for the HJ she gave me. I was going to leave the standard. 4 then foolishly instead of giving her an additional. 2 I gave her. 4 (she said it was because I sucked on her tits, which BTW aren't all that). Never again with that. From now on I'm only bringing to an AMP the money I plan on spending and if the provider wants more, too bad.

Bottom line: I'm out of the AMP scene (at least in the city) for awhile. Suburbs may not be all that great either but I believe they actually hassle you less over tips and services (at least that's been my experience). Strip clubs, here I come!I think we should always remember a tip is a tip. Most of the masseuses in the city now are almost demanding. 40 for a tip because she gave you a HE but remember .40 is not mandatory. Reality of the situation is that the masseuse is at the mercy of what ever you give her. If you give anything less she is going to give you the story of .60 goes to the house. Well okay fine. As far as I am concerned I just payed .60 for 1hr of service and I think that is good money. If times are good and I can comfortably pay then no problem but when funds are tight I am not going to pay .40.

A previous monger states that you should only bring what was negotiated which is good advice: I bring only what I will pay comfortably wheather being the same agreed or a bit more.

OPIllini if you payed .40 beyond what you were expecting (total .80 tip) and it did not hurt you then you did nothing wrong. There is nothing wrong with giving someone a good bye gift especially if you have appreciated their service over time. Regret comes when you give more that you can comfortably afford.

I hope you find something worthwhile when visiting the bars on Lake/Mannheim. As far as I am concerned they are worse than the AMPs because at the bars all you get is a tease at .20 per song. I am not saying that I am the --know all-- , --be all-- but if you know of other then maybe you can post or PM.

----Long Ranger----

Doogie0039
05-18-12, 09:22
Passed this place the other day. Anyone been there? Any info? Pm me pleaseI went last year and this place sucks. It is an old women with a hairy Bush that wants a lot of money for HJ. Skip unless you like older women.

Doogie0039
05-18-12, 09:25
2 out of 3 were okay experiences. Younger girl was legit only. 2 older women were okay. PM for more details.I went in March and I saw a young red head, I think Cassie with nice rack. She gave an okay massage standard EMP massage. She was about to say we were finished and I flipped over and she happily agreed to relieve some tension in my front. No mention of tip and her technique was good. I have not gone back since I like to hit Logan or the two girls on Fullerton and Western when I have the chance.

Nighthawk1955
05-18-12, 09:35
I think we should always remember a tip is a tip.Not really. A tip is a major component of a tech's pay.

She will get a slice of the door fee for sure, but if you expect anyone to do that job without making significant coin in tips you are fooling yourself.

What I heard is they get from the house $15 for a 30 min, $20 for an hour. With no "for sure" that you will make even one penny if the shop is slow.

John Coctoston
05-18-12, 13:16
I spotted an MP on Western ave just south of cortland yesterday. Anyone had the pleasure?

BeetleJuice001
05-19-12, 13:40
Hear hear!

BJ001.


The city is pretty dry right now, and the ones that exist end up costing you around 100-120 for a HJ anyhow. Its much easier to call up the asian apt by the airport and just fuck a hot girl for 160, than to fuss about getting a measly hand job for 100.

Vitrea
05-20-12, 15:32
Bottom line: I'm out of the AMP scene (at least in the city) for awhile. Suburbs may not be all that great either but I believe they actually hassle you less over tips and services (at least that's been my experience). Strip clubs, here I come!Hello, Which high mileage plus quality for strip clubs? I will have a car so distance is not an issue. I Please PM if you prefer that. Thank you.

La Muerte
05-20-12, 17:29
I've heard good things in Ohio and Dallas. Several AMPs on the same street and LEO leaving everyone alone.Not sure about Ohio, but Dallas has a great scene. There are several areas with K-Girls and Thai girls, and very little pretense about what is on the menu. There are a number of Chinese AMPs as well in the Richardson / Plano areas that are more subtle but also offer a variety of services. Dallas has variety that is almost on par with SoCal, but what I like about Dallas even more so than SoCal is that 60 min is the standard session. In SoCal it's hard to find an AMP that will give more than a 30 min appointment.

Too bad that ChiTown is not doing so well. I just moved to St. Louis, and it's terrible here. I am hoping to make it up there for the occasional weekend and partake in the hobby.

LM

Teabagplain
05-20-12, 18:11
Hello, Which high mileage plus quality for strip clubs? I will have a car so distance is not an issue. I Please PM if you prefer that. Thank you.It's been a while since I have visited any of the gentleman's clubs in the area, but I'm guessing things haven't changed much. The well-known clubs in the city have great looking girls, but you won't get much mileage. I would suggest Industrial Strip in Hammond, IN.

BenBeck
05-20-12, 21:31
I spotted an MP on Western ave just south of cortland yesterday. Anyone had the pleasure?I don't know for sure since I haven't been, but it's exactly the address that one of the girls around the corner from Costco has been whispering about moving to. If so, I'd recommend.

Vick123
05-20-12, 23:02
Went to an AMP this evening just out of the blue. Figured I'd treat myself before a long work week ahead. Had seen a new place nearby and decided to give it a go. The place is a hole in the wall. Walked in, the girl that ultimately gave me a massage was not great but decent. The massage was sub par and at times painful! But I must admit she gave it an honest effort and gave me the full hour. About 30 minutes into it, on the flip she smiled and went right for a handshake without asking nor discussing any issues on the menu. Now don't get me wrong this is damn well what I came for! But believe it or not, this is the first time I haven't been given "the options" and paid upfront. She allowed touching and I was roaming all over (Granted she was not really my cup of tea) After it was done she continued with the massage to finish up the time and that was it.

My question was when I was leaving I obviously felt the need to tip but wasnt quite sure how much since as I said this was a first for me. What would you guys say is a standard tip for this situation? I ended up leaving 30 to make it a round $ for the entire experience which I think was fair. But I left wondering if I undertipped or overtipped.

Nighthawk1955
05-21-12, 10:01
Hello, Which high mileage plus quality for strip clubs? I will have a car so distance is not an issue. I Please PM if you prefer that. Thank you.Drive that car to Detroit. Seriously. Chicago area strip joints are a massive waste of time and money. You would be better off with a monthly trip to the motor city.

OPIllini
05-21-12, 19:54
Went to an AMP this evening just out of the blue. Figured I'd treat myself before a long work week ahead. Had seen a new place nearby and decided to give it a go. The place is a hole in the wall. Walked in, the girl that ultimately gave me a massage was not great but decent. The massage was sub par and at times painful! But I must admit she gave it an honest effort and gave me the full hour. About 30 minutes into it, on the flip she smiled and went right for a handshake without asking nor discussing any issues on the menu. Now don't get me wrong this is damn well what I came for! But believe it or not, this is the first time I haven't been given "the options" and paid upfront. She allowed touching and I was roaming all over (Granted she was not really my cup of tea) After it was done she continued with the massage to finish up the time and that was it.

My question was when I was leaving I obviously felt the need to tip but wasnt quite sure how much since as I said this was a first for me. What would you guys say is a standard tip for this situation? I ended up leaving 30 to make it a round $ for the entire experience which I think was fair. But I left wondering if I undertipped or overtipped.For a HJ 40 should be the standard tip. You don't want to overpay obviously but you don't want to come off as cheap either. 40 is about where it should be, but you know here in Chicago many providers make sad faces if they don't get 60 for HJ. IMHO these should be the going rates for various services: HJ. 40; BJ. 60, FS. 100. Yet as I just said many want an additional 20 on top of those rates. You can always politely refuse if she's not willing to negotiate, especially with HJs.

Then again, if she didn't complain about the 30 tip you left her, more power to you. I did that at United with Lucy last year; left a 30 tip and she seemed very happy to get that. She was Korean, and I'm not trying to sound biased here, but in general I think the Koreans are more appreciative and grateful for any tip you leave them than the Chinese are. That's just my opinion though; others may think differently but to each their own.

Vick123
05-21-12, 20:28
For a HJ 40 should be the standard tip. You don't want to overpay obviously but you don't want to come off as cheap either. 40 is about where it should be, but you know here in Chicago many providers make sad faces if they don't get 60 for HJ. IMHO these should be the going rates for various services: HJ. 40; BJ. 60, FS. 100. Yet as I just said many want an additional 20 on top of those rates. You can always politely refuse if she's not willing to negotiate, especially with HJs.

Then again, if she didn't complain about the 30 tip you left her, more power to you. I did that at United with Lucy last year; left a 30 tip and she seemed very happy to get that. She was Korean, and I'm not trying to sound biased here, but in general I think the Koreans are more appreciative and grateful for any tip you leave them than the Chinese are. That's just my opinion though; others may think differently but to each their own.She seemed extremely happy with the 30. Even gave me a hug and had a huge smile. I guess it depends on who you get. I'll keep in mind the 40 for next time.

Teabagplain
05-21-12, 22:09
Not sure about Ohio, but Dallas has a great scene. There are several areas with K-Girls and Thai girls, and very little pretense about what is on the menu. There are a number of Chinese AMPs as well in the Richardson / Plano areas that are more subtle but also offer a variety of services. Dallas has variety that is almost on par with SoCal, but what I like about Dallas even more so than SoCal is that 60 min is the standard session. In SoCal it's hard to find an AMP that will give more than a 30 min appointment.

Too bad that ChiTown is not doing so well. I just moved to St. Louis, and it's terrible here. I am hoping to make it up there for the occasional weekend and partake in the hobby.

LMWhile we're on the subject, anyone know about cities particularly good for EMPs?

Silvio
05-23-12, 15:24
Anyone know where the lovely Winniw from Alice's Chinatown went. Damn I miss her. Pease PM me. She gave me her number but not sure if she changed it because I get no answer. Thanks in advance.

Salesman8888
05-23-12, 16:06
On Archer, get YoYo. Sexy as hell and will go to a BJ if you don't want a HJ. Super sexy and fun. FYI.

Enderwiggen
05-24-12, 02:53
(I was a senoir as Nighthawk55, but lost the login info and changed e-mail) I don't want any secret bat signal stuff. Or Unwind-style bait-and-switch. My monger budget is overflowing and I want to go somewhere that the AMPs are sure things. And I don't want a 12 hour flight to do it.Good to see you back NH!

Share some of that budget, I'm broke and want to try out for the first time.

Nighthawk1955
05-24-12, 09:07
Good to see you back NH!

Share some of that budget, I'm broke and want to try out for the first time.Sorry. Those funds already earmarked. There is nothing I can do!

Ucdiv
05-25-12, 01:46
Logan advertising two new girls. Anyone tried? I am thinking about going. What kind of extra cash should I expect to spend?

Gutenberg469
05-27-12, 18:30
Is Oxygen Spa in Greektown legit? (this is old location of Alice in Greektown). PM is fine.

BigDog16
05-27-12, 19:13
Logan advertising two new girls. Anyone tried? I am thinking about going. What kind of extra cash should I expect to spend?Not worth the money. Yumi and Sinclair were awesome. Jennifer is not that fun and does not seem to enjoy her work. Both have very "meh" reviews. Better to spend your dough at an AMP or at o'hare.

Ucdiv
05-27-12, 19:21
Not worth the money. Yumi and Sinclair were awesome. Jennifer is not that fun and does not seem to enjoy her work. Both have very "meh" reviews. Better to spend your dough at an AMP or at o'hare.Thanks. Too bad. Jennifer looks great in the pictures.

GreekTown
05-28-12, 01:27
Alice's was always goood I am surprised an AMP went uP in the same location. Spidey sence's.


Is Oxygen Spa in Greektown legit? (this is old location of Alice in Greektown). PM is fine.

Don Marco12
05-28-12, 15:27
Went to Xindy and had "Joyce" (not sure about the name). I think they have a hair / nail salon upfront with a big fish tank and TV at front room. No one was there at hair salon. Massage rooms are in the back.

She looked around 50-55 yrs old. Too old for me. The way she was dressed it looked like she was about to leave for office. I was like disappointed but decided to go ahead with the massage. Big Mistake. They don't provide TS. Massage was okay. She can't speak proper English so communication was a problem.

I was not interested in anything since she was too old for me. After the flip, I asked her to continue massaging me since I had paid for one hour and she got upset with me. She rudely said your time is up even though it was not and that really pissed me off. I just went ahead and got dressed and while I was leaving she said " you know you have to pay tips". I was like yeah whatever. I am not giving you a dime for being rude to me and cutting my time short.

I have crossed this place off my list. Chicago AMP scene is horrible. This was the worst AMP experience ever.

The only girl worth in Xindy is June. Good looking, Young and fun. She was busy when I went there but I am done with Xindy. Too far for me also the traffic on the road is not worth it.

Nighthawk1955
05-29-12, 08:56
Is Oxygen Spa in Greektown legit? (this is old location of Alice in Greektown). PM is fine.Since these spaces are already built out as a spa, it is easy to re-open as one. However, I would speculate that any place reopening in a closed location will be extra careful.

GreekTown
05-29-12, 14:23
Is it Asain?

Euro please PM.


Since these spaces are already built out as a spa, it is easy to re-open as one. However, I would speculate that any place reopening in a closed location will be extra careful.

Magooski
05-29-12, 20:17
Hey Guys. I thought the Chinese Massage or what ever it's called in China Place was monger friendly. I'm thinking the old Q&Q. 2nd floor of the China Square towards the south end. It was not a total waste of time, ok massage and she worked hard on a few knots. I did not get her name this morning. I'm guessing she is mid to late thirties, not very attractive, but I'm more forgiving in that area, where some of you guys are more particular. But the table shower set off those warning lights. I knew they way she looked away when I was "nerked as a jay bird" was not a good sign and she was kind of socially awkward, more so than some of the others I have met. Just curious if it would be worth a repeat. My ego is bruised! I started at Crystals in Matteson, but did not want to waste my time. FBB in Oak Forest was closed and not answering any calls and out course the girls at Spa Paris changed the phone numbers and I had the old ones. I should have tried Mercy. Oh well, it sucks to be me today. I would appreciate any info! Thanks!

Lokkin4
05-30-12, 11:43
Not worth the money. Yumi and Sinclair were awesome. Jennifer is not that fun and does not seem to enjoy her work. Both have very "meh" reviews. Better to spend your dough at an AMP or at o'hare.$.70 for a rub and tug? They can kiss my ass. I never went back after sweet Yumi left. She NEVER charged me that much. Insane price people DON'T PAY IT.

Boo1969
05-30-12, 12:09
Not worth the money. Yumi and Sinclair were awesome. Jennifer is not that fun and does not seem to enjoy her work. Both have very "meh" reviews. Better to spend your dough at an AMP or at o'hare.Anyone know what happened to Yumi and Sinclair?

GreekTown
05-30-12, 13:12
$28. 60 mins.

Fit Foot Massage – DePaul.

Anyone have a good time here

Not sure if its even a private room.

I often get these "deals" but its never a good AMP.

Anyone have luck?

OPIllini
06-01-12, 12:18
Hey Guys. I thought the Chinese Massage or what ever it's called in China Place was monger friendly. I'm thinking the old Q&Q. 2nd floor of the China Square towards the south end. It was not a total waste of time, ok massage and she worked hard on a few knots. I did not get her name this morning. I'm guessing she is mid to late thirties, not very attractive, but I'm more forgiving in that area, where some of you guys are more particular. But the table shower set off those warning lights. I knew they way she looked away when I was "nerked as a jay bird" was not a good sign and she was kind of socially awkward, more so than some of the others I have met. Just curious if it would be worth a repeat. My ego is bruised! I started at Crystals in Matteson, but did not want to waste my time. FBB in Oak Forest was closed and not answering any calls and out course the girls at Spa Paris changed the phone numbers and I had the old ones. I should have tried Mercy. Oh well, it sucks to be me today. I would appreciate any info! Thanks!The place you're referring to in Chinatown Square is Oriental Spa and Massage. I went there last summer and got shut out with extras; didn't even get a flip from the MT. Not recommended IMHO

Magooski
06-02-12, 21:37
I agree! Is there another one in that mall? Thanks!


The place you're referring to in Chinatown Square is Oriental Spa and Massage. I went there last summer and got shut out with extras; didn't even get a flip from the MT. Not recommended IMHO

Ts3650
06-02-12, 22:30
I agree! Is there another one in that mall? Thanks!I'd be interested as well. Just got to downtown today from the burbs and no longer have the rental car. Looking for anything worth checking out in downtown, chinatown or anything within the range of the cta.

Thanks!

Just Cl
06-03-12, 00:38
A friend of mine is a professional massage therapist, and we got to talking about massage parlors the other day. I never previously hinted on my interest in such things, but he had a LOT to say after I did that I think would be valuable to share. (Yes, I said HE. And he's pretty damn good. He got my tension headache to vanish in about 3 minutes, and did more for my rotator cuff injury than my physical therapist did).

A legally licensed therapist has to complete a state approved education. It's anywhere from $6000 to almost $20,000 depending upon where they go and how intense they go into it. (He spent almost $20k). Then there's some national certification test thing they have to take, and a state background check and licensing. Then they have to renew their license every few years and continue their education in order to renew, and a few hours of that has to be ethics classes. That's what he does. It's the ONLY way to legally be a therapist.

So, the LEGAL therapists tend to work in certain places, which he kindly informed me. Some of these places WILL PRESS CHARGES if you make a heavy-handed advance (pardon the pun).

He said some places are known as "massage mills" where it's cut-rate, bargain massage. But by legal workers. This is where the bottom-of-the-barrell and fresh out of school people work. You will NOT get anything extra at these places, and the massage will be mediocre at best.. he said they count on clients that don't know what a good therapist is. They're corporate owned or franchised, and are as legit as can be. He said that they have iron-clad contracts with the therapists that make it totally not worth even considering.

MASSAGE ENVY.

LAVIDA.

HEAVENLY MASSAGE.

HAPPY FEET.

ELEMENTS.

Then there's the massage schools. Don't even think about it there. He went to a school in Chicago, and a guy that tried something with another classmate was greeted by police. I forgot the school names, but if it's a massage school, forget it. (Although I remember the good old School of Massage up north that wasn't a school, and had some good times there!)

He also said if you go to any spa that has an open lobby area, any cosmetic services, pregnancy services or services specifically for females (manicure, pedicure, etc) and you can see inside from outside, forget it. Also, if it's advertized on Groupon, KGB, living social or a local mailer, it's legit. Any place that offers extras won't need to drum up business. Lastly, if it's a decent hotel or chiropractor's office, forget it as well.

I told him that I have been to them, and he was a little upset but cool about it. He understood the need, but emphasized his disgust in how such things tarnish the legal therapist's industry. I told him I had a "circle of friends" that I share info with, and he asked me to spread the word. He said to please respect the legal therapists, as they worked hard to be legal and have a lot of crap to deal with, from the state, from the police and from the occasional confused or pushy monger. If you do find yourself in a credible place and they work on you but don't offer anything, he asked to please still tip, because he explained how pay works in a spa, and it's really screwy and some people don't get squat for their time there. He said that if you want to pursue what we pursue, keep it in the asian places that we hit up, BP or CL because it's rare that a therapist on those sites is legit. He went on about how a lot of medical issues can be made worse by massage if an uneducated person works on someone. His big thing was people with blood clots could die. And he wanted me to also share that he highly recommends going to a good high-end male or female therapist once in your life so you can see what a good massage is, and how disappointing the crappy ones are. He also said that iff you are going to go see a legit therapist for legit work, don't be homophobic. Most male therapists do better deep tissue work, and it's not gay. He had a good point when he said "you'll let a male doctor stick his fingers inside your asshole, but god forbid a guy works on your ficked up back". I had no good argument there. I'll admit. I love seeing some cute girl for relief... getting a handfull, licking some nips and squeezing her ass as she finishes me.. But this dude has done some seriously beneficial stuff to help me. I guess they both have their place. And yes. I let a man massage me. And it was actually really damn good. I'm secure in my manhood, and kinda have to side with him on the "It ain't gay, it's professional therapy work" thing. If I'm really sore, I won't go to mamasan. I'll go to him. (And I won't even joke about happy endings. I got lectured on that too. So he begged that we don't even make jokes to legit therpists. He's ok with it, but the females get super bent out of shape). But if I DO have the itch.. it's off to Mercy or 7Spa in Morris!!!

LOL and lastly. I accidentally called him a "massuse". I found out that's a dirty word in their industry. We like massueses. But occasionally need a massage therapist!

Gopher88
06-03-12, 08:46
The place you're referring to in Chinatown Square is Oriental Spa and Massage. I went there last summer and got shut out with extras; didn't even get a flip from the MT. Not recommended IMHO

Alice closed her place at Chinatown Square last year when they rasied her rent 1500. A month. Wow 3500. A month. Cook C. Taxes, She was on the first floor, Wright in the main entrance. There is another place Oriental Spa and Massage is on the 2en floor.

Magooski
06-03-12, 15:57
Oriental was the place and not worth it if someone may want some extra medicenal massge.


Alice closed her place at Chinatown Square last year when they rasied her rent 1500. A month. Wow 3500. A month. Cook C. Taxes, She was on the first floor, Wright in the main entrance. There is another place Oriental Spa and Massage is on the 2en floor.

OPIllini
06-03-12, 18:29
I agree! Is there another one in that mall? Thanks!No, Oriental Spa and Massage is the only one currently in the Chinatown Square Mall. Actually it was a good legit massage (and the MT was decent-looking) but like I said in my previous post I wouldn't be expecting extras there. They advertise a lot on both CL and BP.

Don Marco12
06-03-12, 19:49
I'd be interested as well. Just got to downtown today from the burbs and no longer have the rental car. Looking for anything worth checking out in downtown, chinatown or anything within the range of the cta.

Thanks!You can try Ruby spa or Xindy Spa.

Xindy Spa is in front of Halsted (Orange Line). Read my review of that place. Except for one girl I would say you are better off not going there.

Ruby Spa is 1 mile down from Xindy.

There is also Hong Kong Spa few blocks down Ruby Spa. I have never been there. But you can check these places.

I would start with Ruby Spa and go from there.

Amraam
06-03-12, 20:52
Thanks Just CL. That was a thought-provoking post.

It's also true that some of the masseuses / therapists at AMPs had training in China before coming here, but that the Chinese training isn't recognized in the States, and they can't afford the $6k to $20k to get a US license.

So, my conscious sometimes bothers me that some of those AMP massueses with real but unrecognized qualifications find themselves in the position of having to offer extras in order to earn a living in the field where they have training.

On the other hand, I know of a therapist in that position who left her AMP spa when she finally got certified here, but then I was suprised that she joined another AMP with a friend. In her case, I guess she chose friendship over going to a fully legit spa.


A legally licensed therapist has to complete a state approved education. It's anywhere from $6000 to almost $20,000 depending upon where they go and how intense they go into it. (He spent almost $20k). Then there's some national certification test thing they have to take, and a state background check and licensing. Then they have to renew their license every few years and continue their education in order to renew, and a few hours of that has to be ethics classes. That's what he does. It's the ONLY way to legally be a therapist.

Ts3650
06-03-12, 23:16
Found a couple of places on BP that I was thinking of checking out this week. They all seem to advertise the same rates and hours. Would appreciate any feedback so I'll know what to expect. Most likely will try the one just north of downtown just based on location.

Thanks

Illinois and Michigan, north end of downtown.

Wentworth and Cermak, Chinatown.

Cermak and State, Chinatown

Gopher88
06-04-12, 09:10
You can try Ruby spa or Xindy Spa.

Xindy Spa is in front of Halsted (Orange Line). Read my review of that place. Except for one girl I would say you are better off not going there.

Ruby Spa is 1 mile down from Xindy.

There is also Hong Kong Spa few blocks down Ruby Spa. I have never been there. But you can check these places.

I would start with Ruby Spa and go from there.You go fore, five, doors east and you could go to Acupuncture Health Center nice AMP.

South west corner. I think you may like it there too. All the 3 girls good.

Travelin Man3
06-04-12, 10:42
He also said that iff you are going to go see a legit therapist for legit work, don't be homophobic. Most male therapists do better deep tissue work, and it's not gay. He had a good point when he said "you'll let a male doctor stick his fingers inside your asshole, but god forbid a guy works on your ficked up back". I had no good argument there. I'll admit. I love seeing some cute girl for relief. getting a handfull, licking some nips and squeezing her ass as she finishes me.Great post, thank you.

I have always been homophobic about seeing a legit massage therapist that was male, but now I will get past it. That statement is so true!

Thanks again,

TM3

Davidonecall
06-04-12, 10:47
A friend of mine is a professional massage therapist, and we got to talking about massage parlors the other day. I never previously hinted on my interest in such things, but he had a LOT to say after I did that I think would be valuable to share. (Yes, I said HE. And he's pretty damn good. He got my tension headache to vanish in about 3 minutes, and did more for my rotator cuff injury than my physical therapist did).

LOL and lastly. I accidentally called him a "massuse". I found out that's a dirty word in their industry. We like massueses. But occasionally need a massage therapist!Sorry but I'm always looking for a very nice massage all of the time but my little head is always thinking. I always look for a complete relive. I know they have it hard but I tip well for there effort.

Work Much
06-04-12, 11:56
Where in Ohio? Only place I know in Ohio is Warren and it's pretty good.Looks like the fun in Warren is over.

http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/572378/Wed-11-15-am--No-arrests-expected-today-in-raids.html

ChgoJJ
06-04-12, 13:26
I'd be interested as well. Just got to downtown today from the burbs and no longer have the rental car. Looking for anything worth checking out in downtown, chinatown or anything within the range of the cta.

Thanks!The women at Hong Kong are BBW. Just letting you know before you go in case that is not your thing.

Barney
06-04-12, 14:07
Well, maybe I'll have to cross that one off my list. Did make it Columbia MO, Rockford IL, Michigan City IN, Highland IN, Lawrenceburg IN, and several other HOT spots before they bit the dust. Barney.


Looks like the fun in Warren is over.

http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/572378/Wed-11-15-am--No-arrests-expected-today-in-raids.html

Maestromaestro
06-04-12, 14:56
Yup, the good times in Warren are over. All good things come to an end. Licenses are being revoked.

http://www.vindy.com/news/2012/jun/04/warren-licenses-of-eight-massage-parlors/


Looks like the fun in Warren is over.

http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/572378/Wed-11-15-am--No-arrests-expected-today-in-raids.html

Toosweet1975
06-04-12, 22:02
I was once told by Yumi, I was a valued client and I knew she was telling the truth. We use to chat outside the Logan Square establishment. I surely miss her. But, that is a story we already been beating up like a dead horse. That is not the reason why I am posting this. I have seen everyone at Vice. Even the new blood. Beside and except Sinclaire. NO ONE there is worth $.20 plus tip. Smh. Its not even a Tantra massage they are offering. I have been going there hoping it would change with fresh meat coming in. But, no luck. I seen Millie recently and yes she is gorgeous and has a little petite sexy Body. But what a waste of money and time. They are nice people over there. But not worth the price! I might be done with the mp's for a while. I have never tried the Escort scene. Might start.

Happy Hunting.

Be safe