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I've received a few PM's looking for more information on what Sugaring is all about. Sugaring is for those looking for something different than what is typically found advertised on backpage or craigslist.
If you want to learn more about what it is to be a successful sugar daddy and have mutually beneficial relationships with sugar babies, I recommend strongly visiting the following links and reading as much as possible. This will get you started learning more and remove any time asking questions here and waiting for answers on basic how to's.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10455-Sugar-Daddy-Sites
In sugaring, 'success' does not come in the form of instant gratification such as could be reported while searching out companionship on BP or CL. Sugaring can be / is more about forming some type of connection between the SB and SD. The process of SD'ing usually includes messaging, emailing, sharing of pictures, determining compatibility, m&g, arrangement considerations, closing the deal and from there a continued 'relationship'. This evolution can take weeks or more complete, and then sometimes with no mutually beneficial arrangement to be had. Although as I have read during my introduction into this, when the right sugar baby comes along, it makes it all worth it. The footwork involved is considerable, especially if one is of the mind to place a value on their own time when all they are looking for is a BP experience in the first place. - Of course, as with with everything, there are exceptions to the rule. And the rules are each to their own between any two consenting adults anyway.
Considering those exceptions to the rules, I'd like to see this thread dedicated to SD's in the coastal and surrounding areas for the purpose of sharing any experiences both good and bad. In this realm of SD / SB'ing, I have discovered real sugar babies (SB's) looking for real sugar daddys (SD's), girls under the radar (UTR's) and your basic pros just using the SD / SB sites as another venue for advertising. If your truly looking for a SD / SB experience, you should be able to pick up on the UTR's and pros with little effort and just move on to other things. UTR's and pro's have most often proven to me to have the Golden P (Syndrome (GPS), although some of the more experienced SB's are not immune to this either. And some UTR's and pros are just as desperate as some you'd find on CL. For the most part though, it's college girls just looking for some help with finances from some mature guy with money some extra money willing to help out. The true SB's have no idea what a menu is or what would be placed on a menu. To ask about it would lead to confusion.
Read more into the other threads listed to see the problems that may surface with whichever SB you may encounter. Just like with anything else, use of caution when making arrangements is recommended. Surely there are concerns with those that have SO's, high profile jobs and SB's that may have demons or ulterior motives. Sharing messages prior to meeting, having an initial meet and greet in some public place to discuss specifics is good practice. This also proves advantageous to SD's when discussing what each other would like from the relationship.
Costs are generally more overall when sugaring v / s BP or CL. There is a far greater return though. There is more time spent overall getting to know each other doing whatever you both consider to be fun. If one does a BP or CL experience a couple + times a month, the cost is whatever it is and a couple or few hours have come and gone. Sugaring will cost more over the period of that same month, but one can expect a great deal more time together. The value is greater sugaring, if one is willing to invest into that for whatever reason it seems beneficial. Some tell stories of 6 SB's at a time, some just want one.
For me, I like it. I've had a m&g with 4, closed the deal with 2, 2 are very close to being closed and a considerable number of others are in the pipeline. One that is a closed deal is a current ATF (all time favorite) the other is a part time thing. Both of the close to being closed are potential (POT) ATF's. The current ATF simply has bad luck I think, but she's amazing to spend time with. The POT's have a better grip on life I think and are truly new at SB'ing. Scheduling times we are both free is the thing. - This is with less than 1 month in. It's a process. Considerable texting and messaging. Scheduling time with both parties being available is a chore. Then there's texting and talking after the deal is closed to keep things in motion and share minor niceties through the day or week.
I'd like to hear other's experiences locally. If there's a great catch looking for additional help beyond what one can afford on his own. Sharing is caring. LOL. If there's some bad SB's out there running game looking to take advantage that should be mentioned also. There's too many out there for that to be something that should be put up with. If there's known pros or whatever is good I guess.
Here's a couple of cuties working together looking to get down to business asap. Not my thing, but also I sensed a potential bit of trouble could be lurking around the corner.
Not sure on that 100%, but with so many others to choose from, for me no sense in risking it.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/34da61d6-f87a-4f69-8dc0-455ec40a051c
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/043e8ea0-2ee2-4025-819d-0cb4b5ee8f00
A copy / paste from another thread. Helping to decipher code to see what you are getting into.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=1580125&viewfull=1#post1580125.
Flags.
Nice idea FScott. My contribution.
Green Flags.
Looking to be discreet = I'm married / involved or live at home. High probability of FC fun.
I'll take care of your needs = I'll have sex with you.
Just looking with help for bills = I'm low maintenance. I don't care about pampering and shopping trips. Just give me enough to cover my phone and car payment regularly.
I'm open minded = I don't care that you're married or involved. I'll take your money regardless.
I'm looking for a reliable / steady sugar daddy = I've had a bunch of one night stands and flake / fake SDs, so I'm willing to compromise on the allowance if it's reliable.
Red Flags.
I'm currently not in school and I'm looking for work = I'm going to be totally dependent on you.
I'm not an escort = I won't sleep with you. I'm an arm-candy girl only.
Pro Flags.
What donation will you give me? = I'm such a PRO that I'm not eve going to bother using Sugar-lingo.
If I'm going to stay that long, I'm going to need more = I'm used to charging by the quarter hour.
Hi Hun / Hi Honey = I'm going to call you what I call my Johns.
Let's meet! (even though I haven't seen your picture) = I'm used to meeting complete strangers sight unseen.
Are you affiliated with law enforcement = I'm on parole, so I have to be careful.
A good read on cost versus value with SB's versus Pro's -.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=2186397&viewfull=1#post2186397.
DAMN, you guys post a lot, 7021 posts. I've RTFF. Every damn post, beginning to end! And, I'm still conflicted about the "bowl" and despite reading TFF, beginning to end, can't decide what is the better approach.
So, you guys that have resolved all my conundra. A little specific advice will be appreciated. Post or PM, as you prefer.
A few specifics. I live in Alaska, several hours outside Anchorage. But we do have a community college. However, my preferences lean toward 30-somethings or 40-somethings rather than the 20's. I find the former more reliable and a bit less dramatic.
I've appreciated especially all the good advice from Revvo, HollywoodGuy, FScott, FredMoore, SubCmdr, & BigTigger (in no particular order of importance). Some of you are out of my league, while some of you seem to have characteristics similar to mine.
I'm married (with NO relationship with the "boss" - I know, why not divorce. But the "group therapy" on this forum addresses that. Good discussions, guys), and in a small town, that makes things a bit more dicey. I'm a sixth-decader with a labido that defies the years. Hence the time spent on research.
I've got four regular escorts, each of whom qualifies (equally, although for different reasons) as an ATF. They range in price from down-right unbelievably inexpensive (25 per) to barely affordable for me (per). On average, I'd say I spend about $$ per.
My escort experience is damn good (in regard to quality and GFE experience. What I seek), but it seems a SB would offer the likelihood / prospect of more monogamous (notice the qualifier, "more") relationship. Something I'd rather have. Also, if possible, I'd like to improve the cost / per situation. The tradeoffs seem to be: escort-relatively effortless; SB-a good deal of work.
1. COST. HERE'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS. From reading the forum, I can't determine whether the cost is less, about the same or more. I note that several of you have done the escort and the SB thing. What say you about relative cost? Seems to me, many of you get SBs at $per and that would improve the cost. If the norm is $$ per, then seems to me I break even and then it all comes down to effort and availability. Higher than $$per, then I think my cost is less with escorts.
2. I know there are two specific sites that seem to command the attention of bowl-participants. SA and SD4 M. Question TWO: I've not signed up on these as I'm unwilling to put up a credit-card number and will have to get a hobby-prepaid-card if it is worth the effort. I've tried to work the CL approach, and damn that is hard work for very little reward. So, the specifics on how to work the dedicated-SB cites are a little light, and unless it's more efficient than working (or trying to work) CL, I'm not sure it's worth my effort to go get a pre-paid card and try the commercial sites. Anyone got any specifics to pass along?
3. Final question: anyone have suggestions / experience to report on the small town opportunities? My town is 3000-6000 population (depending whether you count only my town or the adjacent one 10 miles away), and 2-3 hours from the major population center - 350,000 population.
All input will be received appreciatively and evaluated carefully.
RiverGriz.
1. The game of true SD / SB is a little bit "upscale" both in terms of cost expectation and quality of women from the general escort scene. The waters are muddied quite a bit by the fact the SB scene is flooded with UTR girls and sometimes escorts, so just distinguishing between them is going to be the challenge. In theory the dollar cost PER HOUR of *companionship* (not necessarily sex) would be lower with SB if you want a hot girl on your arm, because a true SB will spend time with you without watching the clock. The girls I meet usually can't be talked out of staying all night before they even have a clue how much I will gift them. I sometimes wish they would leave after the second round of fucking so I can get a good night's sleep but it's not always that easy. If I put any sort of dollar amount on my own time, SB dating would be catastrophically expensive. Someone else wrote about that in depth here. It requires A LOT of time to do it well, and if you figure that time is something that could be spent elsewhere EARNING money, it's a phenomenally expensive hobby. There are benefits to be had in the bowl that you typically don't get from escorts, but they come with the price of your time (and if married a much higher level of risk). The whole game is a risk-reward scenario. With escorts you don't worry about paternity suits, blackmail attempts, hiding your identity, etc. But sex with a low volume girl (SB, or even UTR girl in some cases) is almost going to better than someone who has turned her pussy into an assembly line process. I think I've said this before, but I think coming into the bowl with the purpose of cost savings is a really bad move. We should be SDs because we've invested the time to fully understand the difference between being an SD and an escort client, not because we want to save a buck. With all things considered, I'm going to say escorts are far more economical in the long run.
2. The SD sites can be just as hard work as CL depending on what you're looking for, but in general they will put you in touch with girls faster. The efficiency of the process to me makes the credit card payment worthwhile, but it also comes with tradeoffs such as you will have a certain number of girls that decide whether they will even respond to you based on what you write in your profile, and it creates an online identity that is somewhat recognizable (I. E. Girls on these sites work with their friends who are also SBs to trade information about SDs, including your profile name). When you operate strictly on CL you have a higher level of anonymity, can change your introduction verbiage easily and morph with each ad you post, and do not have an online profile. Almost everyone is familiar with CL, so you stand the chance to meet someone there who has not really made a mental commitment to something like signing up for an SD site. How the actual goods are on each type of site will depend greatly on your geographic area, you might get vastly different results in your area than what you read about on this thread.
3. I would think in a smaller town you've got a more limited playing field and also less opportunity for anonymity. Your post already indicates you're aware of the bigger problem here -- the smaller the world the harder it is to stay covert. I've written about this before, but if I were married and there was alimony or asset division on the table, there is no way in hell you would catch me with an SB in a small town. Even 350,000 seems like a small world to play in as a married guy, but since it's 2-3 hours away it might be plenty safe so I'd say that market is your best bet for SBs. Escorts would be a far safer bet in a small town, they just want their hourly rate and there is no expectation for a "relationship" (some SB's idea of a relationship includes financial AND emotional support, but all the true SBs have some sort of "relationship" in mind).
So basically based on what you've told me I'd stick with escorts close to home, and if you want to dabble in the bowl go for the more populated area 2-3 hrs away.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=1330891&viewfull=1#post1330891 HYB (hot young baby) was coined earlier in the thread to represent these girls from 18 to 25 I also called them Nando 3's or the sportsters who are the college girls that you are naming HCB (hot college Babys) There can be a distinction between the two as I see it. But to recap my rating system:
Nando 1. Desperately poor high level of drama girls of all ages. These are the ones who call for more money because they are getting (fill in the tragedy here) tomorrow. Often these girls have kids, no baby daddy (BD) support. Or worse. A hostile or dead beat BD, and are frequently drug / alcohol addicted and can have police records. You all know them. I have met quite a few.
Nando 2. Escorts of all ages who are prospecting for biz on the sugar sites. I know quite a few of these also but it is important to identify them as escorts so your mind set can be right. You can I'd them 3 ways 1) they call you hun or babe before actually meeting you. 2) they charge by the hour and will be upfront with their rate, and 3) they will provide a room for your meet (since they already have one booked).
Nando 3-HYBs, HCBs, or a combo of several classifications. They are frequently looking for a sexual romp with NSA and some extra $$ to buy more clothes;.
4). MILFs. These are older girls (women) who are looking for support, and I have added another one;.
5) Sugar Baby. A true baby of all ages who wants a regular SD to pay them an allowance in return for fun times together. Often these girls are younger and looking for tuition help, car and house payments, mentoring for a career advancement, thrilling trips to exotic places. To name a few.
I like HCB. Because my SO, HYB, HCB love of my life is a Nando 3 and 5 combo. She is highly educated, very smart, absolutely no drama, and just a joy to be with. This is the category that I will forever play in. I hope my Baby will elect to keep me around but if things change I will be looking in that group for my next baby. For me the educated girls are so much more success driven and are usually not in desperate straits.
I'm copy / pasting as well as providing links. There is a ton of information available to learn.
I've thus far experienced one, a combination of 1, 3 and 5. She's proved to be a UTR all said and done. Initial m&g was at the FC. College classes to start a legitimate career. Wanted something longer term that could be depended on. Time together was remarkable. Right around the Nando 3 and 5 stage was how it started. Shortly thereafter has become a Nando 1. 'Tragedy' has struck a couple of times since, dramatic scenarios of woe is me, looking for the next sure thing. Won't be long, I expect to see demon-like problems for this one. The first impression has unfortunately diminished and I am not happy about it. I can't fool myself though. As good as it was, I'm just not looking for any problems of that nature to nurture, and am removing her desire to contact me very methodically. - An other, began as a true #5 and over the period of a few weeks has demonstrated consistently in such a way as to remain in this stage. Seeing and comparing to the Nando 1 among what I am seeing generally elsewhere (much UTR), I realize I may be fortunate to have stumbled upon this gem. Personally with what I am looking for, simplistic as possible, I hope this continues for a bit. - An other will just be a occasional thing when one so happens to be in the area of another at a mutually convenient time. - I've let my membership expire on SA and am just keeping some conversations in motion via text to see what happens. It is addicting I am not going to lie. I'm forcing myself to just play the hand I have for the time being. - Looking forward to a FC experience tomorrow night with my true SB.
Brannigan88
10-14-17, 11:00
Thanks for starting the thread and sharing your experience. I think it's a great idea and as I've moved slowly away from the escort world to the sugar world, I'm very interested in everyone's experience. I have a bit of SD experience myself and I will be sharing soon but I just wanted to say thanks first and that I'm excited to see where this thread goes.
Brannigan.
Anyone have any experience with OLOVESYOU or DREAMMAKER (not exact profile names)? They seem to be borderline pros. Or maybe just very aggressive.
Thanks,
NCHobbyist69
11-16-17, 07:49
Anyone have any experience with OLOVESYOU or DREAMMAKER (not exact profile names)? They seem to be borderline pros. Or maybe just very aggressive.
Thanks,Feel free to PM me with full links to their profiles to see if I've chatted with them; tough to do a search on those terms you have there. For my part, I've met one SB here in ILM that was halfway decent, two others I met for coffee that I ran from due to obvious demons. Hit or miss for sure, but there seem to be a decent amount of college students on the site in the area looking for financial help. Should be some diamonds in the rough, patience is a virtue on SA.
JustFunCoastal
11-26-17, 09:35
Feel free to PM me with full links to their profiles to see if I've chatted with them; tough to do a search on those terms you have there. For my part, I've met one SB here in ILM that was halfway decent, two others I met for coffee that I ran from due to obvious demons. Hit or miss for sure, but there seem to be a decent amount of college students on the site in the area looking for financial help. Should be some diamonds in the rough, patience is a virtue on SA.It takes a little work on the front end, plus I insist on meeting them first before deciding to proceed, but I now have a stable of 8-9 great / cute women of varying ages and no demons. It's like fishing in a stocked barrel. Sorry but I have no way of providing details based on current SA handles. I tend to join for 30 days, make my connections, remove myself at the end of 30, and go with what I have until I need to open new doors. But, it IS worth the 30 day membership if you're willing to do the work upfront.
Brannigan88
11-28-17, 12:19
I've only been a member once about six months ago but I found a great regular girl there that I'm still seeing. 27 years old, slim, pretty and lots of fun. I only met a handful of girls at the time because I didn't really understand the site very well but I have no doubt if I joined again, I could find 5 or 6 girls no problem.
Some things to be aware of if you decide to join:
1. If you get a girl to message you, set up a meeting asap. Don't bother with a lot of chat or getting to know you stuff. I usually just send one message and ask what she likes to do for fun and then try to set up a coffee / drinks date. Don't set up a date too far in advance or she'll likely flake. A day in advance is perfect.
2. Insist on meeting before you make an arrangement or invite her to your place / a hotel. The UTR pros will try to go straight for a "date. " If she insists on that before a drink date, pass.
3. Try to avoid money talk before the meetup but if she insists, go ahead. If she's looking for four times what you're willing to spend on a date, there's no point in a meetup anyway.
4. A lot of girls have totally unrealistic expectations for an allowance. I've had girls ask for 600 a date. I even had one ask for 2000 for one date! One girl wanted a signed contract. Some girls ask for 200 or 300 to just go to dinner and be "arm candy. " LOL. Obviously you want to pass on those.
5. Avoid a monthly allowance. You'll get most bang for your buck doing it per date anyway. And if you pay a monthly and she ghosts, you're out that money. So if she insists on a monthly, pass. If you see a girl for six months and trust her and want to start giving her a monthly, that's probably okay but never for a new girl.
6. Nothing but drink dates for the first meetup. Important. I've broken this rule a couple times and got stuck for 2 hours with a girl I knew I wasn't interested in and was out 100 or so for my troubles. Go for drinks, spend as little as possible, and bail after the first drink if she's not for you.
7. Do not give her any money before you meet! Do I have to mention this? One girl asked me for 200 before we ever met so she could buy hair supplies (she was a stylist). Hard pass on any girl who asks for even 5 bucks up front.
8. Don't be afraid to walk away. I don't care how beautiful she is. If she asks for too much money, if she makes weird demands, if you get a weird vibe from her, walk away. There are plenty of fish.
9. Don't be a dick. Most of these girls aren't pros, they're college students and single mothers. No need to play hard ass with them. As long as you stick to the rules above you don't need to anyway. If your style is to be a little cocky, that's fine but be a gentleman and treat them right. You make the community better for all of us if you treat the girls right.
10. If you strike out a lot, don't worry about. Like I said, my first time through I didn't really understand the dynamics of the site and I screwed up a lot of potential hookups. Learn from your mistakes and move on. If you don't catch any fish, wait a few months and try again. New college students come to town every day and the SA stable constantly replenishes so be patient and learn and enjoy.
Happy hunting!
NCHobbyist69
11-29-17, 11:09
I've had my fair share of hits and misses on SA as well. Here are a couple of addendums:
I. Do not get involved with a girl who is in a relationship. It's pretty easy for those non-pros who give you their phone or email, just cross-reference on FB and you can usually figure it out. Worst case scenario you spend a lot of time and effort getting to know a girl, get the relationship started, and then poof she's gone due to her boyfriend, etc. Getting serious, that sort of thing.
II. Don't be shy about asking whether or not the girl is trans. To quote Seinfeld, "Not that there's anything wrong with that!" But if you are NOT interested in getting involved with a transexual, it's a quick and easy question along the lines of "hey, I've had this happen before, and I know people don't post real pics all the time due to personal reasons so I wanted to ask. ".
I've only been a member once about six months ago but I found a great regular girl there that I'm still seeing. 27 years old, slim, pretty and lots of fun. I only met a handful of girls at the time because I didn't really understand the site very well but I have no doubt if I joined again, I could find 5 or 6 girls no problem.
Some things to be aware of if you decide to join:
1. If you get a girl to message you, set up a meeting asap. Don't bother with a lot of chat or getting to know you stuff. I usually just send one message and ask what she likes to do for fun and then try to set up a coffee / drinks date. Don't set up a date too far in advance or she'll likely flake. A day in advance is perfect.
2. Insist on meeting before you make an arrangement or invite her to your place / a hotel. The UTR pros will try to go straight for a "date. " If she insists on that before a drink date, pass.
3. Try to avoid money talk before the meetup but if she insists, go ahead. If she's looking for four times what you're willing to spend on a date, there's no point in a meetup anyway.
4. A lot of girls have totally unrealistic expectations for an allowance. I've had girls ask for 600 a date. I even had one ask for 2000 for one date! One girl wanted a signed contract. Some girls ask for 200 or 300 to just go to dinner and be "arm candy. " LOL. Obviously you want to pass on those.
5. Avoid a monthly allowance. You'll get most bang for your buck doing it per date anyway. And if you pay a monthly and she ghosts, you're out that money. So if she insists on a monthly, pass. If you see a girl for six months and trust her and want to start giving her a monthly, that's probably okay but never for a new girl.
6. Nothing but drink dates for the first meetup. Important. I've broken this rule a couple times and got stuck for 2 hours with a girl I knew I wasn't interested in and was out 100 or so for my troubles. Go for drinks, spend as little as possible, and bail after the first drink if she's not for you.
7. Do not give her any money before you meet! Do I have to mention this? One girl asked me for 200 before we ever met so she could buy hair supplies (she was a stylist). Hard pass on any girl who asks for even 5 bucks up front.
8. Don't be afraid to walk away. I don't care how beautiful she is. If she asks for too much money, if she makes weird demands, if you get a weird vibe from her, walk away. There are plenty of fish.
9. Don't be a dick. Most of these girls aren't pros, they're college students and single mothers. No need to play hard ass with them. As long as you stick to the rules above you don't need to anyway. If your style is to be a little cocky, that's fine but be a gentleman and treat them right. You make the community better for all of us if you treat the girls right.
10. If you strike out a lot, don't worry about. Like I said, my first time through I didn't really understand the dynamics of the site and I screwed up a lot of potential hookups. Learn from your mistakes and move on. If you don't catch any fish, wait a few months and try again. New college students come to town every day and the SA stable constantly replenishes so be patient and learn and enjoy.
Happy hunting!
John HandCock
11-29-17, 12:00
I've had my fair share of hits and misses on SA as well. Here are a couple of addendums:
I. Do not get involved with a girl who is in a relationship. It's pretty easy for those non-pros who give you their phone or email, just cross-reference on FB and you can usually figure it out. Worst case scenario you spend a lot of time and effort getting to know a girl, get the relationship started, and then poof she's gone due to her boyfriend, etc. Getting serious, that sort of thing.
II. Don't be shy about asking whether or not the girl is trans. To quote Seinfeld, "Not that there's anything wrong with that!" But if you are NOT interested in getting involved with a transexual, it's a quick and easy question along the lines of "hey, I've had this happen before, and I know people don't post real pics all the time due to personal reasons so I wanted to ask. ".The trans question would seem ify to me. Most usually tell in profile or soon after messaging that they are trans. I personally would not contact anyone who I had a question about being woman. If your talking to a girl and you ask that question then that's going to hurt her feelings and its not going to get any better LOL. If you do a m / g and girl is not what pics featured then just walk.
JustFunCoastal
11-29-17, 22:33
I've only been a member once about six months ago but I found a great regular girl there that I'm still seeing. 27 years old, slim, pretty and lots of fun. I only met a handful of girls at the time because I didn't really understand the site very well but I have no doubt if I joined again, I could find 5 or 6 girls no problem.
Some things to be aware of if you decide to join:
1. If you get a girl to message you, set up a meeting asap. Don't bother with a lot of chat or getting to know you stuff. I usually just send one message and ask what she likes to do for fun and then try to set up a coffee / drinks date. Don't set up a date too far in advance or she'll likely flake. A day in advance is perfect.
2. Insist on meeting before you make an arrangement or invite her to your place / a hotel. The UTR pros will try to go straight for a "date. " If she insists on that before a drink date, pass.
3. Try to avoid money talk before the meetup but if she insists, go ahead. If she's looking for four times what you're willing to spend on a date, there's no point in a meetup anyway.
4. A lot of girls have totally unrealistic expectations for an allowance. I've had girls ask for 600 a date. I even had one ask for 2000 for one date! One girl wanted a signed contract. Some girls ask for 200 or 300 to just go to dinner and be "arm candy. " LOL. Obviously you want to pass on those.
5. Avoid a monthly allowance. You'll get most bang for your buck doing it per date anyway. And if you pay a monthly and she ghosts, you're out that money. So if she insists on a monthly, pass. If you see a girl for six months and trust her and want to start giving her a monthly, that's probably okay but never for a new girl.
6. Nothing but drink dates for the first meetup. Important. I've broken this rule a couple times and got stuck for 2 hours with a girl I knew I wasn't interested in and was out 100 or so for my troubles. Go for drinks, spend as little as possible, and bail after the first drink if she's not for you.
7. Do not give her any money before you meet! Do I have to mention this? One girl asked me for 200 before we ever met so she could buy hair supplies (she was a stylist). Hard pass on any girl who asks for even 5 bucks up front.
8. Don't be afraid to walk away. I don't care how beautiful she is. If she asks for too much money, if she makes weird demands, if you get a weird vibe from her, walk away. There are plenty of fish.
9. Don't be a dick. Most of these girls aren't pros, they're college students and single mothers. No need to play hard ass with them. As long as you stick to the rules above you don't need to anyway. If your style is to be a little cocky, that's fine but be a gentleman and treat them right. You make the community better for all of us if you treat the girls right.
10. If you strike out a lot, don't worry about. Like I said, my first time through I didn't really understand the dynamics of the site and I screwed up a lot of potential hookups. Learn from your mistakes and move on. If you don't catch any fish, wait a few months and try again. New college students come to town every day and the SA stable constantly replenishes so be patient and learn and enjoy.
Happy hunting!Couldn't have articulated it better. Do exactly these things listed from Brannigan and your SA life will be great.
NCHobbyist69
12-04-17, 08:38
Young lady with nickname "danilovelybug" in wilmington was chatting with me about getting together, was asking some odd questions and then requested a photo. I sent her one -- not of me though -- and she immediately started threatening to tell my wife and employer what I was doing, etc. Just confirmed my standard operating procedure of not sending photos under any circumstances.
John HandCock
12-04-17, 10:37
Young lady with nickname "danilovelybug" in wilmington was chatting with me about getting together, was asking some odd questions and then requested a photo. I sent her one -- not of me though -- and she immediately started threatening to tell my wife and employer what I was doing, etc. Just confirmed my standard operating procedure of not sending photos under any circumstances.Post a link to her profile. I've been in the bowl since 2010 and have never had this happen. If she has a nickname that mongers recognize then she probably a hooker and anytime you deal with them on sa or the street that crap can happen. Guys have to make better choices and selections on sa instead of playing like its BP or the street. Just my thoughts.
ClientNum1
12-04-17, 12:55
I've been saying it for a while now, boys. Such a bad idea to ever send a pic of yourself. Especially to the backpage girls.
Young lady with nickname "danilovelybug" in wilmington was chatting with me about getting together, was asking some odd questions and then requested a photo. I sent her one -- not of me though -- and she immediately started threatening to tell my wife and employer what I was doing, etc. Just confirmed my standard operating procedure of not sending photos under any circumstances.
Blitzkrieg
12-04-17, 14:25
Post a link to her profile. I've been in the bowl since 2010 and have never had this happen. If she has a nickname that mongers recognize then she probably a hooker and anytime you deal with them on sa or the street that crap can happen. Guys have to make better choices and selections on sa instead of playing like its BP or the street. Just my thoughts."Whether it's BP or the street".
The quote of the year for anyone involved in any aspect of "this" world. People become far to complacent sitting online typing away.
I do zero social media and go so far as to rail on anyone in my life who puts a picture of me on their Screw-up-your-book-quickly page. When I look at photos of potentials I look more at what's in the background in those pics. You can learn a lot. A very smart and crusty SGT Major stood in front of the battalion one day telling everyone how all he needs to do to find out what kind of person they are is just walk through the parking lot and look into their POVs.
SA has been good to me. I am liking what it has provided even with all of the footwork involved up front to get some serious connections going. It's proven to be a very good value.
I just started right about the time I started this thread. A quick recap looking back has reminded me, anything I anticipated was going to be a good or great situation turned out to be not so good. The baby I mentioned going from Nando 5 and 3 to a 1 with possible demons sent me a text recently asking for a go fund me donation for her depression and treatment. Electronic transfer (traceable transactions) are a big no no for me. No chance I would have done such a thing anyway. No matter if her head game is best I have ever had or not. - The babies I had low expectations with going in have ended up being keepers. Their initial hesitancy as a result of dealing with so many flakes themselves led to my initial concerns, but once things have gotten started they've appreciated the dependability as much as me. One I see regularly and the others are for when I want to keep myself in check and hang out with some 'strange'. Allowances range anywhere from $ to $$ and time spent is 2 hrs to overnight, depending on life generally and how much fun we're having together. (more on this later).
There's definitely some common sense rules to follow and I think each of us has their own specific set of circumstances which will narrow down risks we are each willing to take. I am not married, have no need to hide this from a job or family otherwise and personally I have zero shame in this lifestyle and would not consider any criticism from any outside source to be a burden. I would even go so far as to say I would welcome the criticism as an opportunity to speak about it in a positive light. For me this is a preferential lifestyle compared to what society considers normal *but I also see through observations overall in today's world, sugaring itself is actually becoming normalized in a big way. (more on this later) - I can't imagine any genuine sugar baby is going to be willing to meet anyone without first seeing a couple of photos. Using a little caution beforehand is good business, but if there is going to be an opportunity at a SB / SD relationship there is going to have to be a bit of trust and someone is going to have to put themselves in a vulnerable position as things progress. Any SB's I have interacted with have already put themselves out via photographs on a live site and provided some form of contact information. SB's want to be able to enjoy the time with their SD's as well. It's not unreasonable for them to be able to look at a photo of us to see if there can be any attraction on their end. Still, due diligence is good business for us as SD's as much as it is necessary to keep our risk at a minimum depending on our situation. Using the flag system in POST #3 of this thread along with some common sense, it's really pretty easy to spot a Pro or UTR versus a true SB.
The value of sugaring is practically incomparable to escorting. I need time to get warmed up, catch up a bit on the week's events, eat, drink, relax and get very comfortable up to a point where we're taking breaks in between sessions just to catch our breath. The familiarity acquired in taking our time with things, allowing for a matured experience providing the best of times for both of us. If it's not like that I'm not interested personally. I just don't see that possibility with escorts.
- Over the period of a month there is some allowance given. Then the second month and so on. - Do a little figuring on this. - SB's are not escorts per say. But there is still a giving and taking which occurs. Without one and something to give there will be no taker to be found. As good as the relationship may be, SD's aren't coming off with $ for nothing and vice versa which is only fair to all. Throughout the period of a month with just one SB at $ per with 10+ dates, that's 1 k+ per month. $$ per date is 2 k+ per month. Add additional SB's to the stable, increase the number of visits or allowance given. I look at things from an investment perspective it's just my nature. That's helpful retirement funds, a mortgage on a second investment property, maybe a ferrari if that's your thing. The question does come to mind and I would never monetize them face to face because it would make for a bad feel, *but is the experience enriching me so much that I would choose this over an oceanfront property I could use to make me even more money all said and done? Clearly that answer is no unless the costs can be maintained to a point which is beneficial to both parties. I explain this concept to SB's and it's met with understanding and this may contribute to the quality of time I am receiving. -- Thinking in terms of a SB / SD relationship, providing an allowance which covers *a car note, insurance, food, shelter and some fun money every month imo should allow for at a minimum a couple of extended visits per week. Thinking in terms of escorting, SB's would be far better working as escorts considering investment of time and reward. - With that in mind, if the SB's are reluctant to see this point of view of the significant investment we SD's are offering, I have invited them to the idea of just going the escort route if that is what they are looking for because it is what they are being. Which is why it is so imperative that the SB truly be as interested in the SD as the SD is in the SB. Without that mutual interest, it's more business minded and imo practically the same as escorting. SD'ing for me is more about a genuine interest in the SB's well being, schooling, fun and having some comforts in life I can help provide. In return there needs to be that understanding by the SB of the significant investment we make without being greedy. Any concerns of time restraints or non-genuine enjoyment of time together removes my interest altogether because she is then not demonstrating a true concern for me and my well being as I am for hers. Any SB asking for $ for a m&g or more than $$ per visit overall with 8/10+ visits per month is exceeding any logical value which could be provided when considering how that $ could be used elsewhere. If money is the SB's only concern, again, I invite them to BP where they can really get what they are looking for. When it is genuine though, I find myself looking for ways to do something extra when it makes sense, but not because she is demanding it.
I realize there are differences among us as well. I'm middle aged and in excellent shape, good looking and have no problems associating with women and dating otherwise. If that were the only concern then maybe they should be paying me? As thirsty as females are nowadays and as much as they like a rough pounding I've contemplated it just for fun. I want to be fair to everyone though and I truly prefer this over dating locals. I've had a couple guys PM saying they are not having such an easy time, they are older or not so good looking and not getting any responses. First of all, I still don't think there is any logical value in allowing more $ to be expended than what is being explained here. Second, there is more to it than just $. Getting things started was for me ridiculous. Some of these SB's are just ignorant of value of other people's time. I was literally about to hang up my hat and wash my hands of it all after getting flaked out for not the first time. No sooner had I realized that I was dealing with another flake, a different SB in that same minute texted and we set up something for very shortly thereafter. It's okay to get rejected then keep trying until something suitable comes along. And new ones came along practically every day while I was signed up on SA. Filter the search settings to show newest members first with your parameters otherwise. Responses are usually faster and best with new SB's. A simple hello with an offer to text or email. I use a throwaway phone and provide contact info instantly. I've received messages still today with my account having been closed I'm sure nearly 2 months ago. There are plenty of fish so none of them should be able to take advantage. Just say no to the GPS girls and the arm candy.
NCHobbyist69
12-07-17, 07:54
I've found SA to be very gratifying. One hint: if you are chatting with a SB on SA's messaging platform and float the idea of either meeting or texting / emailing to continue talking, and the girl deflects and keeps chatting on SA, gently nudge her again. If she ignores it or continues to chat on SA, she may be a paid freelancer working for SA to keep guys on there and renewing their membership. Don't' believe me? That's fine, BUT I actually know for a fact taht is what happens. If the girl is serious, she'll take your invite to chat off of SA. If not, well, I guess enjoy chatting with no hope of meeting if that's your thing.
SA has been good to me. I am liking what it has provided even with all of the footwork involved up front to get some serious connections going. It's proven to be a very good value.
I just started right about the time I started this thread. A quick recap looking back has reminded me, anything I anticipated was going to be a good or great situation turned out to be not so good. The baby I mentioned going from Nando 5 and 3 to a 1 with possible demons sent me a text recently asking for a go fund me donation for her depression and treatment. Electronic transfer (traceable transactions) are a big no no for me. No chance I would have done such a thing anyway. No matter if her head game is best I have ever had or not. - The babies I had low expectations with going in have ended up being keepers. Their initial hesitancy as a result of dealing with so many flakes themselves led to my initial concerns, but once things have gotten started they've appreciated the dependability as much as me. One I see regularly and the others are for when I want to keep myself in check and hang out with some 'strange'. Allowances range anywhere from $ to $$ and time spent is 2 hrs to overnight, depending on life generally and how much fun we're having together. (more on this later).
There's definitely some common sense rules to follow and I think each of us has their own specific set of circumstances which will narrow down risks we are each willing to take. I am not married, have no need to hide this from a job or family otherwise and personally I have zero shame in this lifestyle and would not consider any criticism from any outside source to be a burden. I would even go so far as to say I would welcome the criticism as an opportunity to speak about it in a positive light. For me this is a preferential lifestyle compared to what society considers normal *but I also see through observations overall in today's world, sugaring itself is actually becoming normalized in a big way. (more on this later) - I can't imagine any genuine sugar baby is going to be willing to meet anyone without first seeing a couple of photos. Using a little caution beforehand is good business, but if there is going to be an opportunity at a SB / SD relationship there is going to have to be a bit of trust and someone is going to have to put themselves in a vulnerable position as things progress. Any SB's I have interacted with have already put themselves out via photographs on a live site and provided some form of contact information. SB's want to be able to enjoy the time with their SD's as well. It's not unreasonable for them to be able to look at a photo of us to see if there can be any attraction on their end. Still, due diligence is good business for us as SD's as much as it is necessary to keep our risk at a minimum depending on our situation. Using the flag system in POST #3 of this thread along with some common sense, it's really pretty easy to spot a Pro or UTR versus a true SB.
The value of sugaring is practically incomparable to escorting. I need time to get warmed up, catch up a bit on the week's events, eat, drink, relax and get very comfortable up to a point where we're taking breaks in between sessions just to catch our breath. The familiarity acquired in taking our time with things, allowing for a matured experience providing the best of times for both of us. If it's not like that I'm not interested personally. I just don't see that possibility with escorts.
- Over the period of a month there is some allowance given. Then the second month and so on. - Do a little figuring on this. - SB's are not escorts per say. But there is still a giving and taking which occurs. Without one and something to give there will be no taker to be found. As good as the relationship may be, SD's aren't coming off with $ for nothing and vice versa which is only fair to all. Throughout the period of a month with just one SB at $ per with 10+ dates, that's 1 k+ per month. $$ per date is 2 k+ per month. Add additional SB's to the stable, increase the number of visits or allowance given. I look at things from an investment perspective it's just my nature. That's helpful retirement funds, a mortgage on a second investment property, maybe a ferrari if that's your thing. The question does come to mind and I would never monetize them face to face because it would make for a bad feel, *but is the experience enriching me so much that I would choose this over an oceanfront property I could use to make me even more money all said and done? Clearly that answer is no unless the costs can be maintained to a point which is beneficial to both parties. I explain this concept to SB's and it's met with understanding and this may contribute to the quality of time I am receiving. -- Thinking in terms of a SB / SD relationship, providing an allowance which covers *a car note, insurance, food, shelter and some fun money every month imo should allow for at a minimum a couple of extended visits per week. Thinking in terms of escorting, SB's would be far better working as escorts considering investment of time and reward. - With that in mind, if the SB's are reluctant to see this point of view of the significant investment we SD's are offering, I have invited them to the idea of just going the escort route if that is what they are looking for because it is what they are being. Which is why it is so imperative that the SB truly be as interested in the SD as the SD is in the SB. Without that mutual interest, it's more business minded and imo practically the same as escorting. SD'ing for me is more about a genuine interest in the SB's well being, schooling, fun and having some comforts in life I can help provide. In return there needs to be that understanding by the SB of the significant investment we make without being greedy. Any concerns of time restraints or non-genuine enjoyment of time together removes my interest altogether because she is then not demonstrating a true concern for me and my well being as I am for hers. Any SB asking for $ for a m&g or more than $$ per visit overall with 8/10+ visits per month is exceeding any logical value which could be provided when considering how that $ could be used elsewhere. If money is the SB's only concern, again, I invite them to BP where they can really get what they are looking for. When it is genuine though, I find myself looking for ways to do something extra when it makes sense, but not because she is demanding it.
I realize there are differences among us as well. I'm middle aged and in excellent shape, good looking and have no problems associating with women and dating otherwise. If that were the only concern then maybe they should be paying me? As thirsty as females are nowadays and as much as they like a rough pounding I've contemplated it just for fun. I want to be fair to everyone though and I truly prefer this over dating locals. I've had a couple guys PM saying they are not having such an easy time, they are older or not so good looking and not getting any responses. First of all, I still don't think there is any logical value in allowing more $ to be expended than what is being explained here. Second, there is more to it than just $. Getting things started was for me ridiculous. Some of these SB's are just ignorant of value of other people's time. I was literally about to hang up my hat and wash my hands of it all after getting flaked out for not the first time. No sooner had I realized that I was dealing with another flake, a different SB in that same minute texted and we set up something for very shortly thereafter. It's okay to get rejected then keep trying until something suitable comes along. And new ones came along practically every day while I was signed up on SA. Filter the search settings to show newest members first with your parameters otherwise. Responses are usually faster and best with new SB's. A simple hello with an offer to text or email. I use a throwaway phone and provide contact info instantly. I've received messages still today with my account having been closed I'm sure nearly 2 months ago. There are plenty of fish so none of them should be able to take advantage. Just say no to the GPS girls and the arm candy.
Take it offline asap is what I do. A throwaway phone from from Walmart is is cheap and makes providing some contact info far less risky overall. - If she doesn't go to texting relatively quick something is probably up.
Overall though as far as I can tell, there are relatively few fakes on SA.
This reminded me of one I should probably restart a conversation with. An exception to this rule. It took a bit of communicating online prior to us beginning texting. This one was truly brand new at sugaring (I could just tell by the content of her communications. See flags post #3) and to me that made it worth the extra effort. I found myself caught up with others before I was able to close the deal with this one, but I do still have her contact info we had a good rapport prior to my 'ghosting' her via text.
A new sugar baby to me is the best. There is the most opportunity there for some sincere moments with a more 'innocent' baby that is likely looking for little more than a guy to spoil her a bit and show her some things in the bedroom she's only heard or fantasized about otherwise. This is the kind of sugar baby that can truly appreciate a sugar daddy's givings and would demonstrate this appreciation in various different ways.
Confidence is a big deal. Just be blunt as possible without crossing the line of being self incriminating when communicating via written word. There will be plenty of time to get to know each other and small talk when working out in the FC. Keep chatter to a minimum until meeting, cast a wide net and don't fear rejection. Definitely no shortage of options.
I've found SA to be very gratifying. One hint: if you are chatting with a SB on SA's messaging platform and float the idea of either meeting or texting / emailing to continue talking, and the girl deflects and keeps chatting on SA, gently nudge her again. If she ignores it or continues to chat on SA, she may be a paid freelancer working for SA to keep guys on there and renewing their membership. Don't' believe me? That's fine, BUT I actually know for a fact taht is what happens. If the girl is serious, she'll take your invite to chat off of SA. If not, well, I guess enjoy chatting with no hope of meeting if that's your thing.
I signed up here and within a day had about a dozen messages. I did not purchase the membership to read all of these messages yet. Are the girls here legit or just bots selling memberships??
Indicative of either UTR or Pro familiar with the way it works. They smell fresh meat.
Not saying it couldn't turn into a real SD/SB arrangement.
If you signed up on SA, they're likely real though, just real pros or UTR's. Maybe that's what you're looking for. SD4M is full of spam in my experience.
Throwaway phone. Reply briefly, offer the phone number and to go to text asap. Get to the point, but don't talk in a way that would be incriminating to you or them. There's a silent understanding. Read about flags in post #3 of this thread.
Arrange a meet. Be prepared for a possible m&g to be in the FC. It's possible is all. Likely even.
Do not pay to m&g for coffee.
It's a process getting from where you are to closing the deal. Not sure how much you have read about negotiations etc. If not much, do yourself a favor and read a bit before you jump in.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ&p=2480827&viewfull=1#post2480827. ( Post #9 )
Good times ahead.
I signed up here and within a day had about a dozen messages. I did not purchase the membership to read all of these messages yet. Are the girls here legit or just bots selling memberships??
My ATF hit me with the info, but I'm pretty sure I avoided it fortunately. She came up with only a bacterial infection and I've shown no signs. She had known for days and wasn't going to tell me either except that we had a meet scheduled in very short time. It's clinic time for me and no FC action until I learn of my health status.
Present day college females have had more sexual experiences than likely any other category and are more eager to please than any other time in history. With the multitude of influences through mobile devices, things such as appearance and sexual performance have become a top item in giving them feelings of self worth whether they have 'daddy issues' or not. The eagerness to please and the freedom to act and do many things is indeed well enough a blessing, but it also deserves consideration when you want to remain STD free.
Bringing up the topic of exchanging recent STD test results during a M&G or even prior to that is the best way to let it be know this is something that is expected to be on the table. Clean tests are a requirement for playing this game, for me and any other anyway. If I lose that clean bill of health I am out of the game. So it's non debatable. STD test or no deal. POTs will appreciate it all the same and it also gives some surety in a non-incriminating fashion as to what is hoped for as things progress. I've been surprised to get responses that they never have had it requested before, but they like the idea and appreciate the caution. With the youth and eagerness to please college women possess, there is also a lack of discipline that likely includes a history of them having more than a little unprotected sex.
STD Screening Tests should be performed on some sort of scheduled basis thereafter as well because things are going on otherwise on other occasions. It's not worth it. Even with having the conversation to include a mutual respect requesting for safety purposes to only be with others that have been tested and using protection, they'll smile and say sure but in all honesty can we really expect POT's to be that respectful to us considering the lack of self respect involved in doing this in the first place. - I truly feel lucky to not have any symptoms of her thing, but I am still worried a bit and any other arrangements have been put on halt in the meantime.
NCHobbyist69
12-14-17, 07:34
And I mean that literally and figuratively. I always wonder with the girls who are into getting together right away wheather or not they are clean. The way I see it, anyone on SA should be treated the same as anyone on BP. Just because SA seems more upscale doesn't mean diddly squat; be careful, safety first, and like your'e saying don't be shy about talking turkey before getting in the sack. And obviously, if any of us run into anyone on SA or anywhere else for that matter who happen to have an STD, it's kind of our duty to call them out, either publicly or invite members to PM for details on who to avoid. Thanks for sharing your info, best of luck to you.
My ATF hit me with the info, but I'm pretty sure I avoided it fortunately. She came up with only a bacterial infection and I've shown no signs. She had known for days and wasn't going to tell me either except that we had a meet scheduled in very short time. It's clinic time for me and no FC action until I learn of my health status.
Present day college females have had more sexual experiences than likely any other category and are more eager to please than any other time in history. With the multitude of influences through mobile devices, things such as appearance and sexual performance have become a top item in giving them feelings of self worth whether they have 'daddy issues' or not. The eagerness to please and the freedom to act and do many things is indeed well enough a blessing, but it also deserves consideration when you want to remain STD free.
Bringing up the topic of exchanging recent STD test results during a M&G or even prior to that is the best way to let it be know this is something that is expected to be on the table. Clean tests are a requirement for playing this game, for me and any other anyway. If I lose that clean bill of health I am out of the game. So it's non debatable. STD test or no deal. POTs will appreciate it all the same and it also gives some surety in a non-incriminating fashion as to what is hoped for as things progress. I've been surprised to get responses that they never have had it requested before, but they like the idea and appreciate the caution. With the youth and eagerness to please college women possess, there is also a lack of discipline that likely includes a history of them having more than a little unprotected sex.
STD Screening Tests should be performed on some sort of scheduled basis thereafter as well because things are going on otherwise on other occasions. It's not worth it. Even with having the conversation to include a mutual respect requesting for safety purposes to only be with others that have been tested and using protection, they'll smile and say sure but in all honesty can we really expect POT's to be that respectful to us considering the lack of self respect involved in doing this in the first place. - I truly feel lucky to not have any symptoms of her thing, but I am still worried a bit and any other arrangements have been put on halt in the meantime.
NCHobbyist69
12-18-17, 12:20
I just get a chuckle out of some of the ladies who argue over financials and in doing so end up with nothing. I mean, miniscule amounts of money, it's ridiculous. Anyways, stand strong my brothers.
I just get a chuckle out of some of the ladies who argue over financials and in doing so end up with nothing. I mean, miniscule amounts of money, it's ridiculous. Anyways, stand strong my brothers.Is it worth the money to sign up for the entertainment? Have you found real girls here?
Is it worth the money to sign up for the entertainment? Have you found real girls here?Once you sign up you should start receiving messages within a couple of hours. The real ones will "hunt" you down and send a message. If there is an interest, go immediately to phone text. I dreamt I scored about 6 times in less then 2 weeks, and I was being very particular on what I wanted. As a side note, stay away from the "brides to be" from other countries. LOL!
Once you sign up you should start receiving messages within a couple of hours. The real ones will "hunt" you down and send a message. If there is an interest, go immediately to phone text. I dreamt I scored about 6 times in less then 2 weeks, and I was being very particular on what I wanted. As a side note, stay away from the "brides to be" from other countries. LOL!I am surprised that with a quick check of their cell number on old facebook, their real life appears. These 19 year olds are going to be fun to play with!
Once you sign up you should start receiving messages within a couple of hours. The real ones will "hunt" you down and send a message. If there is an interest, go immediately to phone text. I dreamt I scored about 6 times in less then 2 weeks, and I was being very particular on what I wanted. As a side note, stay away from the "brides to be" from other countries. LOL!It is taking me 2-3 weeks to get a 19 year old ready. How did you do 6 in 2 weeks. You obviously skip dinner and drinks? Or was 2 weeks after you spent 4 weeks of prep work.
Can I ask the average price you paid for the 6 times in that dream of yours?
It is taking me 2-3 weeks to get a 19 year old ready. How did you do 6 in 2 weeks. You obviously skip dinner and drinks? Or was 2 weeks after you spent 4 weeks of prep work.
Can I ask the average price you paid for the 6 times in that dream of yours?Within my first week after paying for the membership I had 2 dreams. Probably could have had more but you must be able to drop everything and meet when they want to. Most are servers so they have unusual hours.
So they say at the clinic, no news is good news. I got tested for everything including the herp (apparently they can do that now via bloodwork) a while before Christmas and never heard back from them. Life's been busy but I got around to getting the paperwork on hand now and the machine is still in good working order. Been inactive for a bit so it's good to have this peace of mind for later.
It is taking me 2-3 weeks to get a 19 year old ready. How did you do 6 in 2 weeks. You obviously skip dinner and drinks? Or was 2 weeks after you spent 4 weeks of prep work.
Can I ask the average price you paid for the 6 times in that dream of yours?A new semester has begun. Fresh meat has surely raised the ceiling yet again, or will be in short enough time. College loans are just now coming in the mail and the SB's in this age group have learned or are learning how to use as little of their 'free' money for actual school as possible. Even so, their coffers are currently filled. Just prior to Christmas, they were empty. Considering timing of these things may play a part in how easily accessible sb's are. Prior to Christmas I was receiving messages from some I haven't heard from in months. I passed but it was still interesting to observe and learn the pattern of things. It's just in my nature.
Dinner and drinks seems to be more of an interest after considerable time has been spent over numerous visits. Depending on what you are looking for, most are most receptive to being treated with little difference than a typical UTR or Pro, just with a more tactful use of words. For the purpose of time management, beating around the Bush is counter productive. Being tactful is a good idea too though. Even though there's not a menu on the surface of texted conversations in closing the deal and ending up in the FC, there's still a menu. Same gift just in a different wrapping paper. Cutting to the chase, frequency of visits and value you place on that via their desired monthly allowance. -.
If you're looking for 6 sb's in 2 weeks, cast a wide net. - Personally, for the time being, I appreciate simplicity and the idea of taking care of one and having one take care of me. I never met a woman that didn't need a bit of guidance. This age group alone makes it not so easy with that in mind. There's a sincere interest in blessing my SB, but training her while still allowing for the reciprocity to have a genuine article in it is a timely process that only allows for time to tell the end story. All said and done, I'll never allow myself to get played or taken advantage of. I'll give plenty of rope to hang herself with though. If she passes the tests, she'll be blessed instead. -.
6 Sb's however many times a month? Unless they are one time visits and done, that's a lot to manage. When I was playing a little larger field, my total expenses ranged from $ to $$ for multiple hours of time multiple times per week. Now with managing just one and trying to make a difference outside of just the FC for both of our benefits, I'm a little higher than that, but there is also much more in the works than just a FC experience. Single, very busy middle aged attractive male, it's good to have someone to count on for things as needs come up. -.
In any event, for typical FC experiences only, going any higher than $$ per visit is too much imo. Some sb's will say they would like x per month to help with their needs. If it's in the budget, divide it by $$ or less and there's your routine so long as you both agree and enjoy each other's company. -.
Keep in mind though, one of my previous posts, things we could attain if that $ were invested in something else. This idea alone is part of why I am looking to work with one and guide us both in a direction that allows for the expense to seem like a better investment we can both reap the rewards from all said and done. <- this is more likened to what I consider a true SB / SD relationship. Just me. It's not so easy and if the sb has the mental capacity of a typical utr or pro then it won't work for me. Actions speak louder than words and if one wants to act like a hook then I don't want to be faced with the option of having to treat them like the hook they are behaving as. Again, just me and this alone narrows down my options considerably when picking from this same pool as everyone else. I've been around here and there too long to allow myself to be played, taken advantage of or stolen from before things come to a true end. That's important to realize for and about yourself when going this route unless you're willing to walk away with a loss. I'm simply not, and am hoping for the best for everyone in the end anyway.
Hope this helps.
So they say at the clinic, no news is good news. I got tested for everything including the herp (apparently they can do that now via bloodwork) a while before Christmas and never heard back from them. Life's been busy but I got around to getting the paperwork on hand now and the machine is still in good working order. Been inactive for a bit so it's good to have this peace of mind for later.
A new semester has begun. Fresh meat has surely raised the ceiling yet again, or will be in short enough time. College loans are just now coming in the mail and the SB's in this age group have learned or are learning how to use as little of their 'free' money for actual school as possible. Even so, their coffers are currently filled. Just prior to Christmas, they were empty. Considering timing of these things may play a part in how easily accessible sb's are. Prior to Christmas I was receiving messages from some I haven't heard from in months. I passed but it was still interesting to observe and learn the pattern of things. It's just in my nature.
Dinner and drinks seems to be more of an interest after considerable time has been spent over numerous visits. Depending on what you are looking for, most are most receptive to being treated with little difference than a typical UTR or Pro, just with a more tactful use of words. For the purpose of time management, beating around the Bush is counter productive. Being tactful is a good idea too though. Even though there's not a menu on the surface of texted conversations in closing the deal and ending up in the FC, there's still a menu. Same gift just in a different wrapping paper. Cutting to the chase, frequency of visits and value you place on that via their desired monthly allowance. -.
If you're looking for 6 sb's in 2 weeks, cast a wide net. - Personally, for the time being, I appreciate simplicity and the idea of taking care of one and having one take care of me. I never met a woman that didn't need a bit of guidance. This age group alone makes it not so easy with that in mind. There's a sincere interest in blessing my SB, but training her while still allowing for the reciprocity to have a genuine article in it is a timely process that only allows for time to tell the end story. All said and done, I'll never allow myself to get played or taken advantage of. I'll give plenty of rope to hang herself with though. If she passes the tests, she'll be blessed instead. -.
6 Sb's however many times a month? Unless they are one time visits and done, that's a lot to manage. When I was playing a little larger field, my total expenses ranged from $ to $$ for multiple hours of time multiple times per week. Now with managing just one and trying to make a difference outside of just the FC for both of our benefits, I'm a little higher than that, but there is also much more in the works than just a FC experience. Single, very busy middle aged attractive male, it's good to have someone to count on for things as needs come up. -.
In any event, for typical FC experiences only, going any higher than $$ per visit is too much imo. Some sb's will say they would like x per month to help with their needs. If it's in the budget, divide it by $$ or less and there's your routine so long as you both agree and enjoy each other's company. -.
Keep in mind though, one of my previous posts, things we could attain if that $ were invested in something else. This idea alone is part of why I am looking to work with one and guide us both in a direction that allows for the expense to seem like a better investment we can both reap the rewards from all said and done. <- this is more likened to what I consider a true SB / SD relationship. Just me. It's not so easy and if the sb has the mental capacity of a typical utr or pro then it won't work for me. Actions speak louder than words and if one wants to act like a hook then I don't want to be faced with the option of having to treat them like the hook they are behaving as. Again, just me and this alone narrows down my options considerably when picking from this same pool as everyone else. I've been around here and there too long to allow myself to be played, taken advantage of or stolen from before things come to a true end. That's important to realize for and about yourself when going this route unless you're willing to walk away with a loss. I'm simply not, and am hoping for the best for everyone in the end anyway.
Hope this helps.So, I've been a hobbyist for years, but the town has obviously dried up. As a hobbyist with a ring on my left hand, discretion was key, and simple in / out's were easily accomplished. How possible is this with a SB / SD situation? Are most SB ok with this setup? Just curious. Walking into new uncharted territory. It's not like I can go hang out at coffee shops and restaurants with the college kids, ya know.
TIA.
With good conscious advise on this one way or another. Consider my last few sentences in my last post. The consequences which stem from being caught in the act of infidelity are tough to leverage against someone willing to cross over from just having a little fun to the darker side of things. Surely it's wise to be cautious, but who can say when someone (a SB) may think a really bad idea might be a worthy pursuit. This makes it hard for me to hold any responsibility of providing any direct guidance for anyone with this concern specifically.
Even-so, I've found no reason to believe a SB would provide any greater of a risk than anyone else in any other setting. Morally speaking, LOL, I don't see them placing any lesser value or personal judgement towards a married gentleman seeking some fun on the side.
It'll just be a matter of putting your concerns out there and seeing who is willing to play ball. Some patience will likely be in order to get a few on hand to have on call on occasion and the strength in numbers principle will surely make it easier to have options when the time arises. After the process plays out and some arrangements are brought to a close in the FC, a routine may present itself and a simpler process of your doings altogether will have been achieved. It'll take some upfront effort though but the payoff seems to be well enough for most. The routine and monthly allowance will make it easier for them to be dependable as well.
Good luck and be safe.
So, I've been a hobbyist for years, but the town has obviously dried up. As a hobbyist with a ring on my left hand, discretion was key, and simple in / out's were easily accomplished. How possible is this with a SB / SD situation? Are most SB ok with this setup? Just curious. Walking into new uncharted territory. It's not like I can go hang out at coffee shops and restaurants with the college kids, ya know.
TIA.
NCHobbyist69
01-17-18, 08:13
If your marriage is something you want to protect, I'd advise AGAINST any type of SD / SB arrangement unless you can 100% guarantee to the terms you setup with your girl. Saying something like, "Oh I'll take care of you monthly" and then balking on that agreement after the girl gets to know you could send her into a fit of rage with revenge on her mind. With FB and somewhat of a small community in Wilmington, it would be easy for any SB to turn on her SD if things go south. Just saying be careful.
With good conscious advise on this one way or another. Consider my last few sentences in my last post. The consequences which stem from being caught in the act of infidelity are tough to leverage against someone willing to cross over from just having a little fun to the darker side of things. Surely it's wise to be cautious, but who can say when someone (a SB) may think a really bad idea might be a worthy pursuit. This makes it hard for me to hold any responsibility of providing any direct guidance for anyone with this concern specifically.
Even-so, I've found no reason to believe a SB would provide any greater of a risk than anyone else in any other setting. Morally speaking, LOL, I don't see them placing any lesser value or personal judgement towards a married gentleman seeking some fun on the side.
It'll just be a matter of putting your concerns out there and seeing who is willing to play ball. Some patience will likely be in order to get a few on hand to have on call on occasion and the strength in numbers principle will surely make it easier to have options when the time arises. After the process plays out and some arrangements are brought to a close in the FC, a routine may present itself and a simpler process of your doings altogether will have been achieved. It'll take some upfront effort though but the payoff seems to be well enough for most. The routine and monthly allowance will make it easier for them to be dependable as well.
Good luck and be safe.
PiedPiper77
01-17-18, 20:32
If your marriage is something you want to protect, I'd advise AGAINST any type of SD / SB arrangement unless you can 100% guarantee to the terms you setup with your girl. Saying something like, "Oh I'll take care of you monthly" and then balking on that agreement after the girl gets to know you could send her into a fit of rage with revenge on her mind. With FB and somewhat of a small community in Wilmington, it would be easy for any SB to turn on her SD if things go south. Just saying be careful.Post needs to be in bold highlite and marked as important. No truer words have been typed in a short and straight forward way for this subject. Well said man.
Post needs to be in bold highlite and marked as important. No truer words have been typed in a short and straight forward way for this subject. Well said man.And all of this is what I expected. I assumed it wasn't as "simple" as a standard meet up. Thanks for confirming, guys.
NCHobbyist69
01-18-18, 09:43
- never give your real name.
- use a second phone number app or grab a burner from Walmart.
- if emailing, use discretion and a gmail account.
- hook up only at hotels or her place.
- never meet face-to-face in a place you'll be recognized.
- do not send her pics via email or text.
- when hooking up, leave wallet in locked glove compartment and only bring cash. If you need to keep your wallet with you, keep it -- and your phone -- in the front pockets of your pants, and keep them in line-of-sight at all times. When you shower bring them into the bathroom with you.
- make sure when you meet your girl in public you figure-out some way to check her arms, etc. For needle marks; in this day and age, you can never be too careful.
- when meeting in public the first time, get there 30 minutes or so early and watch for her to arrive. If somebody drops her off, make sure it isn't some sketchy dude.
All of the above may be paranoid, but I've had a few successful arrangements over the years and I've followed these rules with success. My two cents, do with this what you will. Be safe, be smart, happy hunting.
And all of this is what I expected. I assumed it wasn't as "simple" as a standard meet up. Thanks for confirming, guys.
The idea of caution in these affairs. No doubt there's a different level of concern going in unmarried versus being obligated to a contract of wedlock.
I certainly trust those more experienced to realize the potential dangers involved with a SB willing to cross that line. I'll call myself fortunate to to have avoided any troubles, whereas I have avoided practically every warning mentioned.
There's some things altogether in my mind that cause me to be so nonchalant. First of all, I'm of a mind of having zero shame in this lifestyle. Any sb I have dealt with, they and their families are invested in schooling in which they hope to use to make a career out of at some point. They have normal lives just like everyone else. Dealing with a SB such as this, what are the chances she would, in the process of 'exposing' her SD, indirectly expose herself and confess to being a hooker pretty much? Again this is just me, but anyone of any significant value in my life would literally laugh in a SB's face should something like this happen. I bring them to my house but their license plate is on film as soon as they pull in the driveway. I've been out in public with a few. Agreed, there is no 100% guarantee of anything, but I'm also not opposed to putting things in proper check myself should I be challenged in any way.
The initial vetting process has helped me recognize the less desirables early on. I do remain anonymous with burner phones in that stage of things and it takes some things to happen before I will actually expose any genuine identifying info. It took some time before some things finally came together for me but I was not looking to get hooked up with anything that simply moved and breathed. I'm sure there are some bad apples in the SB pool, but my in person experiences have honestly proven to present no concerns of druggies or anything of that sort. I haven't had an account with SA for months and don't expect to again for some time really. It took some effort, but things really simplified once contact was made with some of the better options.
Again, I most definitely do agree with and appreciate a little or even a lot of caution, especially with consequences as deep as a those which come with being married and playing this game. I'm just not sure I could enjoy it if all of that were necessary. I do think it's a fair statement to say that with all of the options available on SA, there's a pretty good number of SB's there that would seem to be less risky than others elsewhere. I had a look over on BP just a bit ago and it's no comparison imo. On SA, it's as simple as clicking on a profile and asking.
NCHobbyist69
01-24-18, 07:53
Buddy of mine has a SB he sees from UNCW, said he met her yesterday she was coughing and sweating, talked about how her friends at school have the flu. I do not currently have a SB from UNCW, but thought I'd mention this here in case anybody else does. May want to make sure your flu shots are up to date before partying anytime soon. Just FYI. Peace.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/baa733bd-80bf-4430-8d90-8872ad45e1c7
Does anybody have any intel on this one. She calls you "babe" almost instantly, says she has not eaten in days and wants some money for food.
But for some reason she actually seems legit or am I being fooled?
MTWilliams911
01-28-18, 20:37
Post needs to be in bold highlite and marked as important. No truer words have been typed in a short and straight forward way for this subject. Well said man.Have had three try to blackmail over the years for this very reason. Never ever let them know your real identity. No matter what.
MTWilliams911
01-28-18, 20:41
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/baa733bd-80bf-4430-8d90-8872ad45e1c7
Does anybody have any intel on this one. She calls you "babe" almost instantly, says she has not eaten in days and wants some money for food.
But for some reason she actually seems legit or am I being fooled?1. Talk to her on phone. Remove that it is a dude.
2. Have her send pic with a note of today's date under her chin.
3. Then ask for FB and I'd picture.
You will at least then be off to a good start of figuring out the situation.
How could a girl with these looks not be strung out on drugs or some other drama? That is the question to ask yourself.
1. Talk to her on phone. Remove that it is a dude.
2. Have her send pic with a note of today's date under her chin.
3. Then ask for FB and I'd picture.
You will at least then be off to a good start of figuring out the situation.
How could a girl with these looks not be strung out on drugs or some other drama? That is the question to ask yourself.Well I talked with her a number of times. She had a DUI a few months back and then the restaurant she was working at closed down for the winter season. And on the phone, it was definitely not a dude. She gave me her real cell number also. So I had two phone numbers. But nothing came up on Facebook with either number. I had her send a pic holding up a certain number of fingers. She did this.
Her pics show in general she is well nourished. But she said she had no money and had not eaten in days. She was staying with parents. She said relationship was strained. She said they (her parents) even put a lock on the refrigerator!!
So literally just before transferring a little money for food I asked her to send me a quick picture of her refrigerator. She sent picture of refrigerator. Very quickly and it had two locks!!
I checked google and the same exact picture was on the internet, picture was up on Pinterest!!
Thanks guys!!
MTWilliams911
01-30-18, 01:55
Well I talked with her a number of times. She had a DUI a few months back and then the restaurant she was working at closed down for the winter season. And on the phone, it was definitely not a dude. She gave me her real cell number also. So I had two phone numbers. But nothing came up on Facebook with either number. I had her send a pic holding up a certain number of fingers. She did this.
Her pics show in general she is well nourished. But she said she had no money and had not eaten in days. She was staying with parents. She said relationship was strained. She said they (her parents) even put a lock on the refrigerator!!
So literally just before transferring a little money for food I asked her to send me a quick picture of her refrigerator. She sent picture of refrigerator. Very quickly and it had two locks!!
I checked google and the same exact picture was on the internet, picture was up on Pinterest!!
Thanks guys!!Her profile says she is a waitress. So how is a waitress hungry? I would want to deliver her money in person to see what she seems like in person (if possible). I hope she is real though. That is for sure.
I want sloppy seconds on this one. PM me her contact phone number when you are ready to share. I would love to do this one.
Does anyone know of her. Fitnesshealthbabe I know a number of ladies in the area, but not her.
NCHobbyist69
02-05-18, 07:57
Exoticsundar.
Claims she needs pics, pics, pics to meet. Once you send pics -- no, I didn't send mine, I sent fake ones -- she says it's not enough and needs to friend you on FB to feel comfortable etc.
Exoticsundar.
Claims she needs pics, pics, pics to meet. Once you send pics -- no, I didn't send mine, I sent fake ones -- she says it's not enough and needs to friend you on FB to feel comfortable etc.Hey NCHobbyist69, your mailbox is full.
NCHobbyist69
02-06-18, 07:54
Contributing to the growing "How To" advice for crafting a SD / SB arrangement, I will mention that it is a good idea to cross-reference a girl's phone number on FB to check her out. For example, I was chatting up a local college cutie, iLMsElite, who looked promising, she gave me her number to continue our chat. I checked her out and found the profile pic below. Again, be careful gentlemen.
Contributing to the growing "How To" advice for crafting a SD / SB arrangement, I will mention that it is a good idea to cross-reference a girl's phone number on FB to check her out. For example, I was chatting up a local college cutie, iLMsElite, who looked promising, she gave me her number to continue our chat. I checked her out and found the profile pic below. Again, be careful gentlemen.You don't catch them all.
NCHobbyist69
02-07-18, 07:50
You don't catch them all.Latest trend seems to be girls flirting and being oh so close to setting up a date, but WHAM, car breaks down, needs money wired to them to get to the date. LOL.
RoundThePort
02-13-18, 15:13
Does anyone know of her. Fitnesshealthbabe I know a number of ladies in the area, but not her.Pm me for details.
NCHobbyist69
02-16-18, 09:49
Found an OUTSTANDING young SB this week, very into our time together, lots of fun. Not supermodel sexy body but not too shabby. Interested parties feel free to PM me for details, as she is looking for other SDs.
Had a miss as well: LauraT37 is downright mean. Met her for coffee and she was rude, obnoxious, and unfortunately loud, so much so that I had to get up and leave as people were starting to look at us. Just not discreet, can't imagine what our time together would've been like.
Buyer beware.
Have fun, be safe!
JustFunCoastal
02-16-18, 13:43
Found an OUTSTANDING young SB this week, very into our time together, lots of fun. Not supermodel sexy body but not too shabby. Interested parties feel free to PM me for details, as she is looking for other SDs.
Had a miss as well: LauraT37 is downright mean. Met her for coffee and she was rude, obnoxious, and unfortunately loud, so much so that I had to get up and leave as people were starting to look at us. Just not discreet, can't imagine what our time together would've been like.
Buyer beware.
Have fun, be safe!This is disappointing to hear as I used to see her and never had that sort of outcome. She was very sweet and discreet.
Anyone here had any meetings with her?? She is very friendly and went to texting really quick. Looking for info before I twftt.
Anyone here had any meetings with her?? She is very friendly and went to texting really quick. Looking for info before I twftt.Sandy Bottom is one of the best I have met on SA. Friendly. Yes! Genuine. Yes! Not a user, and not chasing any dragons. For those of you that remember, she has a body like Shane, only much more attractive. Has the same skills. Would recommend.
SmallWaves69
03-07-18, 13:35
Was wondering if anyone has seen her. Thinking I might give her a try. Any help would be great. Thanks.
LarryHall81
03-08-18, 10:27
Was wondering if anyone has seen her. Thinking I might give her a try. Any help would be great. Thanks.First time really posting in this thread but I used to see her a little over a year ago. She never flaked and was always wonderful to see. I honestly have nothing but good things to say about her. She seems to be very active on SA now so I assume she is either trying to find a regular or she is just trying to get as many as she can to support herself.
SmallWaves69
03-08-18, 16:41
First time really posting in this thread but I used to see her a little over a year ago. She never flaked and was always wonderful to see. I honestly have nothing but good things to say about her. She seems to be very active on SA now so I assume she is either trying to find a regular or she is just trying to get as many as she can to support herself.Thank you! I think I will give her a try. Will let you know.
If you pay for the membership, you will not regret it right now. There is endless talent to choose from. There are a few from BP but most are just 20 somethings looking for a quick buck.
SmallWaves69
06-01-18, 11:12
How's the talent right now. Thinking about joining again.
If you pay for the membership, you will not regret it right now. There is endless talent to choose from. There are a few from BP but most are just 20 somethings looking for a quick buck.Any older ladies to be found there?
Do not contact this one. She came to my room we were progressing then she grabbed my cell phone and some cash I had by my pants and literally ran out the door to a waiting car and left.
NCHobbyist69
07-23-18, 07:29
Do not contact this one. She came to my room we were progressing then she grabbed my cell phone and some cash I had by my pants and literally ran out the door to a waiting car and left.Almost saw this one! Phew.
JustFunCoastal
07-23-18, 08:41
Do not contact this one. She came to my room we were progressing then she grabbed my cell phone and some cash I had by my pants and literally ran out the door to a waiting car and left.THanks Torco. Could you post her pic? It would be helpful to us all if we could keep an eye out. These sort of women tend to change names and user names constantly. Thanks in advance.
THanks Torco. Could you post her pic? It would be helpful to us all if we could keep an eye out. These sort of women tend to change names and user names constantly. Thanks in advance.She was my third bad encounter on SA so I got mad and deleted my account. Her page said she's 27 a cosmetologist. Something about bedroom eyes. If I had the account I'd post her pic. Had a text app number started with 910-524.
Any recent reviews on this hottie? Met her a year ago quite the body. Can't get her to commit to meeting Flakes every time lately.
Secretename774 met several months ago under a different I'd. Just wondering if any recent reviews in rl. She's been fun online but difficult to schedule!
NCHobbyist69
07-25-18, 07:08
Secretename774 met several months ago under a different I'd. Just wondering if any recent reviews in rl. She's been fun online but difficult to schedule!Got back onto SA recently, LOTS to choose from. Literally shooting fish in a barrel. To avoid flakey girls, my s. O. p. Is to tell them I'm leaving on a business trip soon but would like to meet face to face over coffee or drinks or something. If they ask for the moon support-wise, I say I'm open to it, BUT we have to meet on such and such a day at a certain time. When we meet, then I pitch them on getting together that very same day at a much reduced amount. I've met with four girls, and all four have worked out very very well. Just sayin'. Have fun, be safe. And don't let in to GPS. Peace.
NCHobbyist69
07-26-18, 10:35
Figures I just post a "hey go get 'them, boys!" to this forum for SA girls, then I run into a couple of scammers. They are blondecutie21 and Bluehairbeauty. Scheduled meet w / the first one at a coffee shop, I walk in and she's sitting with a girl. I sit down, the other girl tells me she's on the site, her site name, etc. So I start talking turkey with the first girl, the second girl pushes her cellphone over toward me, face down on the table. I ask her what the fuck she's doing, the other one gets pissy; I'm thinking are they recording me? I get up and walk out, the blonde one follows me starts cussing me out IN THE PARKING LOT in front of everyone. Avoid, gentlemen, avoid.
Figures I just post a "hey go get 'them, boys!" to this forum for SA girls, then I run into a couple of scammers. They are blondecutie21 and Bluehairbeauty. Scheduled meet w / the first one at a coffee shop, I walk in and she's sitting with a girl. I sit down, the other girl tells me she's on the site, her site name, etc. So I start talking turkey with the first girl, the second girl pushes her cellphone over toward me, face down on the table. I ask her what the fuck she's doing, the other one gets pissy; I'm thinking are they recording me? I get up and walk out, the blonde one follows me starts cussing me out IN THE PARKING LOT in front of everyone. Avoid, gentlemen, avoid.That is them, about a month ago I planned a coffee meet with blondie, I walked in like I was just there to grab a coffee and saw them together. My spidey sense said run. Once in awhile I make a good call!
NCHobbyist69
07-26-18, 14:55
That is them, about a month ago I planned a coffee meet with blondie, I walked in like I was just there to grab a coffee and saw them together. My spidey sense said run. Once in awhile I make a good call!Dude, you were way smarter than me!
NCHobbyist69
08-06-18, 08:22
Redheadbeauty22 is a scammer. Down in myrtle. Drove all the way down there. Yikes. Pm for info. Have fun, be SAFE!
Harry Plopper
08-06-18, 08:40
I got stuck with a few of those a few years ago and decided to stop driving to them. If they are not willing to meet in public near me for coffee or drinks at a hotel bar where I am at. They can f off.
Redheadbeauty22 is a scammer. Down in myrtle. Drove all the way down there. Yikes. Pm for info. Have fun, be SAFE!
NCHobbyist69
08-06-18, 10:36
I got stuck with a few of those a few years ago and decided to stop driving to them. If they are not willing to meet in public near me for coffee or drinks at a hotel bar where I am at. They can f off.As few misses as I've noted here, it's still like shooting fish in a barrel on SA right now. I'm slowly but surely filling up my pipeline of regulars so keep hunting fellas! Be safe.
Brannigan88
08-12-18, 10:31
After a one-year hiatus I decided to get back on SA a few weeks ago to see if I can replenish my roster. We all know how bad things have been in hobbyland since Backpage went offline, and Skip and other alternatives don't seem to be nearly as good to find new girls. SA isn't the only game in town yet but it's close.
Some background. I'm in my early fifties, still fit and good-looking, make a nice amount of money but by no means rich. I've been hobbying quite a bit for the last three years. I've had three long-term regular girls in that time. I was lucky enough to find two good BP girls about 2 years ago and saw them steadily until recently. I got fairly close to both of them and would consider them good friends. Unfortunately both situations have faded in the past few months. (One is in jail and the other has been having too many personal problems and become unreliable.) My third regular was a girl I met on my last SA blitz a year ago. That one has faded too due to a boyfriend she's becoming more serious with. All three were mid-twenties, very attractive, very sexual, without too many demons. I realize I kind of got spoiled finding three awesome girls as regulars and only reluctantly have decided to find some new girls.
My last time on SA I was really clueless and ended up wasting a lot of time. Basically I treated it too much like a dating site and tried to "get to know" the girl before meeting and getting down to business. I didn't have a whole lot of success in that blitz (although I did find one of my regulars and one other girl that only lasted a month or so.).
This time I was determined to be more focused and direct and improve my results. Despite that, I did start out a little slow the first week. I was still beating around the Bush too much and not getting to the point -- I want to fuck for money! (And no, I never put it that directly in my messages.) I'm at the point now where I don't bother with anything in my first message other that stating my proposal in plain language. My results have been greatly improved.
By direct I don't mean I'm saying something like, "Hey you're hot, want to fuck?" I mean I'm stating my intentions and my offer directly and up front. I want a casual hook-up situation, minimal "dating," and awesome sex. For that I'm willing to offer an allowance on a per-date basis. I'm willing to meet for drinks or coffee for the first date but after that it's either on or sayonara. That's about it. Either they bite or ignore me.
So onto the results. I've met six girls so far and fucked three. Of the three I met but didn't fuck, one ghosted on me after the first date, one I decided was too young and immature so I'm not pursuing anything with her, and the third is coming over to my place this week. Assuming that goes as planned I'll be 4 for 6 on my meetups. (Really 5 for 6 as the immature girl would have been into fucking if I had pursued it.).
I have about 8 other prospects in various stages. Two of them I have plans with to meet this week and the others I'm working on. With one exception all of these girls are between 18 and 29 and above average attractive. Mostly they are college students or girls working shit jobs who need extra money. A few are mothers.
Unlike the girls you used to find on BP, these girls are generally friendly and happy, free of drugs and demons, and fun to be with. I'm not saying any of them are perfect but after doing the escort thing for a few years it's nice being with girls who aren't cynical or whose lives are a total mess.
Of the three I've been with I'm considering making two regulars. I'm hoping that at least one other prospect pans out so I have three on rotation. (Three regulars seem to be my magic number for some reason. Easy to manage and still gives me enough variety so I don't get bored.) I only have about a week left on my subscription and don't plan on renewing so hopefully that will work out.
What you'll find is you contact all the local girls you're interested in a week or two and spend another week or so trying to arrange meetups. I recommend a one-month blitz followed by 3 to 6 months off the site. That way the girls replenish and you get some fresh faces.
And now for the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. (And no, I don't look like Clint Eastwood unfortunately.).
The Good.
* Girls are nicer than your average working girl.
* Also better looking.
* Their lives aren't fucked up by drugs, abusive boyfriends, troubles with the law, etc.
* Will go out to dinner, movies, travel or whatever with you as long as the price is right.
* Aren't fucking dozens of guys like most escorts.
* There's a great pool of talent in Wilmington. If you travel around the Carolinas and can meet girls in Charlotte, Charleston, Myrtle, etc, it's even better.
* Pretty easy to arrange meetups. Girls don't generally respond to messages if they aren't serious about meeting up.
The Bad.
* Prices are generally higher than working girls. 300 a date seems to be the new norm. I'm sure you can find plenty of girls for 200 or less but since I'm going for the higher end girls, 3 bills seems to be the lowest amount they'll take. Some insist on 4 or more per date. Too rich for my blood but if that's in your budget, go for it.
* Crazy demands. Some girls expect to arrange a monthly allowance before they even meet. Some expect upwards of 5 bills per date. Others don't want to do anything sexual but still expect to be paid. Others are straight up gold diggers (had one ask me what type of watch I wear.) Some are just plain weird. The younger girls especially seem to have very unrealistic expectations (a crazy high allowance or only want a platonic relationship or won't have sex for several dates, etc.) Avoid all these types.
* You'll get a lot of contact from girls outside the USA who are looking for a ticket to the states, green card, etc. Annoying but that's all. Delete and block.
* Some girls are weirdly demanding. I had one message me and ask if I wanted to meet. I didn't respond right away. 30 minutes later she messaged me and said if I didn't respond, it wasn't going to happen. Guess what? It didn't happen.
* Too many girls! I actually have to turn some good ones down because I don't have enough time to meet everyone.
The Ugly.
* There are scammers out there. I haven't personally had a problem but if your radar goes off, listen. There are too many girls out there to take chances.
* There are also working girls on the site. Most of you who have been around will recognize a dozen or so girls as former BP or current STG girls. I tend to avoid those but YMMV.
* Time wasters. Some girls will just waste your time and never meet up. Or girls who don't show up or cancel dates. Not a huge problem but it's there.
If you're going to take the SA plunge, I advise the following:
* Have two or three decent pictures. If you don't want to show your face to everyone, have one with the head cropped off in your public pic and a few others showing your face in your private ones. Don't show your private pics until you're relatively certain the girl is okay. Make sure they're good pics. No selfies.
* Write up a brief introductory email that says exactly what you want in non-graphic language. Say whether you want someone to date or just an FWB situation, how often you're willing to meet, and what you're willing to give for an allowance.
* Send this email to every girl you're interested in.
* Don't bother with too many "getting to know you" type messages (or any). If she bites, set up a meetup date asap.
* Once you have a date get her number or give her yours so you can text. (Do I have to mention you should be using a burner app and not giving out your real number? Don't make a rookie mistake.).
* Try to set up the date as soon as you can. Every day out you set the date increases the flaking chances by 5% in my opinion. Be flexible. If a girl asks you to meet that day, try to make it happen. They all seem to appreciate a guy who makes an effort.
* Explain that there's no allowance for the initial meetup, it's just to determine if you have chemistry.
* Meet somewhere close to your place (or wherever you take girls). Two of my three lays happened on the first date after a few drinks. Be prepared in other words.
* If you decide not to lay her on the first date (and there's nothing wrong with waiting until the second date IMO), try to set up the second date asap. A few days out is fine. Don't make it two weeks from your first date.
* The 18 to 21 year old girls are flakey and you might want to avoid all together. I've had two or three of them cancel or no-show on dates. A lot of them will chat enthusiastically and tell you they want to get together and then just ghost. Then there's the problem of not being able to take them out for a drink (I usually do coffee instead). The sweet spot seems to be girls from 23 to 29. (But if you're into older, 30 plus, there are options out there as well. That's just not my thing.).
* Don't lie but don't feel the need to tell the whole truth. I tell girls I'm willing to pay by the date and if we hit it off, I can eventually do a monthly allowance. This is true. I've done it with one other girl for 3 months but it's not the norm for me and she'd have to be an awesome girl to justify it.
* Don't feel the need to continue things if you don't hit it off. One of the girls I fucked was fun but she's just not someone I want to see regularly. It's your money, do with it what you want.
* Don't be a jerk. I've heard from more than one girl that a lot of guys are demanding and entitled. Yeah, it's your money. Yeah, you have things you want in the relationship. But don't be a prick about it. These are generally nice girls. They appreciate a guy who doesn't act like an entitled shmuck.
* Get to the sex on the first or second date (if that's what you're looking for.) Actually had one girl tell me she'd met a few guys who took her out several times and never tried to fuck her. And she wanted to fuck! Doubt that would be a problem with you lot but just putting it out there.
* Don't be creepy. Again, do I have to say these things? Be direct with what you're expecting but don't go into graphic detail about your sexual fantasies or anything. Unless it's clear that's what she wants.
* Treat your first meetup like a real date. Shower, comb your hair, dress nice, be on time, etc. The effort will be appreciated.
* Relax and have fun with it. You're not going to hit it off with every girl. So what? If she's not into it, it's her problem, not yours.
That's about it. I'm not going to post reviews of specific girls because these aren't escorts and they're trying to be discreet. None of the girls I've met would want specific details of them or our date to be made public and I respect that. Good luck, brothers!
Brannigan.
After a one-year hiatus I decided to get back on SA a few weeks ago to see if I can replenish my roster. We all know how bad things have been in hobbyland since Backpage went offline, and Skip and other alternatives don't seem to be nearly as good to find new girls. SA isn't the only game in town yet but it's close...
...Brannigan.Your info is spot on!
Thanks!
NCHobbyist69
08-20-18, 09:12
And a particularly aggressive one at that! Exchanged info on SA, she texts me and says she wants to drive up from SC, says she needs gas $. I say nah, you can find money to drive up then we can do our thing, etc. She starts arguing and threatens to post my phone number (which is anonymous / textnow number) along with my name (which is not my real one) on all these different boards, etc. To tell girls to avoid me, was going to report me to SA, etc. Etc. Etc. Attaching her photo, PM me if you want to confirm her phone number (I'm not posting it here). Peace.
LogJammin18
08-20-18, 11:56
After a one-year hiatus I decided to get back on SA a few weeks ago to see if I can replenish my roster. We all know how bad things have been in hobbyland since Backpage went offline, and Skip and other alternatives don't seem to be nearly as good to find new girls. SA isn't the only game in town yet but it's close...
Brannigan.One of the better write-ups I have seen in a while. I think the other huge advantage is getting to go BB with clean young women, something I did not consider doing with a backpage escort. What has your experience been with condoms vs not with SA girls?
Brannigan88
08-20-18, 19:51
One of the better write-ups I have seen in a while. I think the other huge advantage is getting to go BB with clean young women, something I did not consider doing with a backpage escort. What has your experience been with condoms vs not with SA girls?1 out of 3 BB so far. Seems like the younger ones are into it but over 28-29 they insist on condoms.
LogJammin18
08-21-18, 13:22
1 out of 3 BB so far. Seems like the younger ones are into it but over 28-29 they insist on condoms.I have found the same. I believe it can be traced directly back to what kind of sex ed programs were going on at the time in middle schools and high schools.
The the women over 28 or so, I do end up having to show a clean test. I found a network of labs that will let you use your monger email address / name to get the work down so that you can keep things super private. Check out http://www.myprivatelabs.com.
Brannigan88
08-26-18, 11:50
Ended my 1-month subscription to SA this week. I pretty much contacted every girl in the area who met my criteria during that time, found a few good ones, and am going to go off the site for 6 to 12 months until I need to refill the pipeline.
Overall I was more successful this time around than the last time a year ago. Experience is key. I started understanding the "rhythm" of meeting girls on SA and didn't waste as much time as the last time around. I can see SA becoming my prime go-to in the future for finding new girls.
My stats for this run:
Girls met: 9.
Fucked: 4.
Per Date $: 200-300.
I still have a few girls in the pipeline I haven't met yet so my numbers might go up a bit and I'll do another post if that happens. But overall pretty happy. Of the 4 girls I hooked up with I've repeated with 2 and would consider repeating with the other two. I had one bad experience that I'll get to in a minute but generally the girls were friendly, fun, and worth spending the $$ on.
As I stated in my previous post, being upfront and direct from the first message seems to work best. 1 or 2 messages of chit-chat at most then try to arrange a date. Get their number asap so you can text. Get her out for drinks or coffee. If it's on, invite her back to your place or a hotel. If not, follow up the next day and propose a play date. Keep it as simple as possible. There's so many girls it doesn't make sense to waste time with girls who aren't sure if they want to get physical or want 3 or 4 dates before they fuck.
By direct I don't mean crude. If you want to go out on dates or travel, tell her. If you want a FWB situation, say it. If you're looking for intimacy, make that clear. Being blunt and telling her you want her to come over and fuck probably won't work. (Didn't for me the one or two times I tried it.).
The girls I successfully bedded were between 23 and 37. I had zero luck with girls under 23. They flake. They don't want to have sex. They ask ridiculous rates. They want to sell pics and vids. They cancel and no-show. They're just generally indecisive and unreliable. As hot as some of the younger girls are I'll probably limit future searches to 23 and up. Just not worth the effort to try and score that one in a thousand 18-year old who actually shows up and puts out.
I did get ripped off once. Texted a 22-year old for a few weeks but never set up a date. She was a bit weird but kept texting me. Finally agreed to meet her at a bar. Had a few drinks and hit it off. Went back to my place and negotiated a rate. Gave her the money (first mistake). We started fooling around and she suddenly said her friend was Ubering over and we'd have a threesome. Okay, I said (second mistake). The Uber was having trouble finding my place so she went outside (with the money -- third mistake). She said she was going to walk down the street to meet them. I told her I'd wait inside. After about 15 minutes I texted her. No response. Just goes to show always be on your guard. No matter how experienced you are at this game you can't give the girls an inch.
So a few points:
* One of the girls I'm considering seeing regularly I thought I had no shot with on the first date. She is genuinely one of the most gorgeous girls I've ever been with. Blonde, blue-eyed and slim. We had a good first date but no fireworks. Texted her the next day and set up a play date a few days later. Ended up having a great time with great sex and have repeated with her two more times. So long story short, don't think a girl is out of your league or isn't into you. Some girls are just reserved.
* Met a 20-year old for coffee that was truly the most drop-dead gorgeous girl I've ever met. She'd been doing the SB thing since she was 18. Unfortunately she was looking for 800 a date and wasn't even guaranteeing sex until we "got to know each other. " That was a tough pass. If I would ever pay 800 to be with a girl, it would be her.
* Next time I'll negotiate rates a bit harder. I did 300 for some girls that were more like 200 girls in my opinion. Unfortunately a lot of SA girls have an inflated opinion of what they're worth.
* I need to pace myself better next time. There were weeks where I tried to schedule a meet or play date almost every day. It gets exhausting.
* I'm going to concentrate a bit more on personality than looks next time. Beautiful girls are awesome but they're not always the best sugar babies IMO. Fun, friendly, cute girls are almost always better than hot, aloof girls.
* Never schedule a first date more than a day ahead. Too much flaking. If they can't meet the day or day after you contact her, wait a few days and try again. (Exception: if you're going after 30+ girls, this doesn't seem to be a problem. Older girls are more reliable.).
* Keep it local. Unless you travel for business, long distance never seems to work. I texted a few girls in Myrtle, Jacksonville, Fayetteville, etc but the logistics were too much to overcome. Exception: if she is willing to come to Wilmington.
* Don't get needy / try to lock down a girl. I've heard some crazy stories about guys who profess their love for a girl on the first date, want to wife her up, say they want to "rescue" her from her life, etc. Keep it fun and friendly, guys.
* Always trust your instincts. The girl that ripped me off was giving me weird vibes even before we met. I should have trusted myself. I lost 300 bucks for not listening to my instincts.
* Be aware that there are UTR escorts on the site. Those girls will usually negotiate a per date rate right away and want to skip coffee / drinks and get straight to a play date. But if that's your bag, go for it.
* There are trannies on the site. Read those profiles carefully. If that's your bag, no judgement. Go for it. But if it's not, do your due diligence before arranging a date.
Get out there and enjoy, brothers!
Brannigan.
I just let my account expire on SA after multiple meets with expectations of 4 to many hundreds per date! What happened to the girls that were happy with a dinner then $ to $$ for the after dinner desert? Has the wilmy market gone mad?
Brannigan88
08-26-18, 17:14
I just let my account expire on SA after multiple meets with expectations of 4 to many hundreds per date! What happened to the girls that were happy with a dinner then $ to $$ for the after dinner desert? Has the wilmy market gone mad?The college girls are definitely the worst when it comes to ridiculous expectations. I blame the Kardashians.
Brannigan88
08-26-18, 17:35
I mentioned this girl in my longer post below but wanted to put a few more details. Unfortunately I don't have her SA user name. Her name is Marissa and she goes by Mars. 22, blonde hair, blue eyes. We went out for drinks, negotiated a rate, and then back to my place. After some fooling around she said a friend of hers was Ubering over to join us. Stupidly I let her leave to meet her friend with the money. She didn't return and didn't respond to texts.
Never let your guard down, gentlemen.
NCHobbyist69
09-06-18, 08:23
Got back onto SA to see what's new, a handful of previous BP girls are still on there in Wilmington area. New local college girls seem to be suffering from golden pussy syndrome, which is always funny. Finding some intriguing ladies in Jax and F-ville who are willing to travel. Hopefully the Wilmington ladies get a grip sometime soon. PM me if anyone wants deets on any SA girls, happy to share what I can. Peace.
NCHobbyist69
09-07-18, 09:46
Got back onto SA to see what's new, a handful of previous BP girls are still on there in Wilmington area. New local college girls seem to be suffering from golden pussy syndrome, which is always funny. Finding some intriguing ladies in Jax and F-ville who are willing to travel. Hopefully the Wilmington ladies get a grip sometime soon. PM me if anyone wants deets on any SA girls, happy to share what I can. Peace.So since I've been flooded with PM requests for info, here are some highlights of who to avoid (which is what why'all have been asking about mostly) to save time:
Breezieee, 26, Jax. Wants 2800 month allowance, non-negotiable. Good luck with that.
Sexybrittany08,22, Wilm. Cross-referenced photos she sent, former BP girl. Wants hookups at Motel 8 on Market. Yikes.
Blondecutie21,25, Wilm. Wants 250 -- no wait, 300 -- no wait, car just died, 350 just to meet. Nah.
Sugarsweetmel, 21, north carolina. Wants 150 just to meet, when I said no she went bezerk.
Summersurf, 32, wilm. Wants 200 just to have drinks or coffee.
Needs spoiling2, wilm. Wants 500 per meet.
So since I've been flooded with PM requests for info, here are some highlights of who to avoid (which is what why'all have been asking about mostly) to save time:
Breezieee, 26, Jax. Wants 2800 month allowance, non-negotiable. Good luck with that.
Sexybrittany08,22, Wilm. Cross-referenced photos she sent, former BP girl. Wants hookups at Motel 8 on Market. Yikes.
Blondecutie21,25, Wilm. Wants 250 -- no wait, 300 -- no wait, car just died, 350 just to meet. Nah.
Sugarsweetmel, 21, north carolina. Wants 150 just to meet, when I said no she went bezerk.
Summersurf, 32, wilm. Wants 200 just to have drinks or coffee.
Needs spoiling2, wilm. Wants 500 per meet.To add to the list.
Haveuhurd wilm. Expects 2000 per month.
Britney1992 wilm. Wants 400 per meet.
Anastasia loe wilm. Wants 400 per meet with no touchy, just hanging out.
Brannigan88
09-26-18, 08:27
Anyone using Tinder to find SBs? I've had a small amount of luck with it. Met a few so far. Wondering if anyone else was using a regular dating app or site for sugar game.
I get on SA from time to time to find new contacts. I don't have a lot of time, so I try not to juggle a bunch. I'm not usually in the ILM market, but this is the only SA discussion I found for the NC forums. I'm in Winston-Salem.
I have one regular on SA: An AA MILF; we get together about once a month. GFE sets me back about 150 per visit. She'd accept less, but she's great and I'm not going to push it. Definitely the best I've met from SA. She's not even on the site anymore, so I'm pretty sure I'm the only one she's meeting with. She's definitely just not getting what she needs at home, rather than doing it for the money.
I almost never bother with college-age. For the unreasonable expectations mentioned usually, plus the lack of maturity (I'm early 50's). That limits the market, but there are still a decent amount of candidates whenever I sign back up for a month.
I'm cheap, so we usually do car fun if the gal can't host. That turns off a fair number. But I'm not paying for a hotel room for a couple hours or less.
NCHobbyist69
09-27-18, 10:44
I get on SA from time to time to find new contacts. I don't have a lot of time, so I try not to juggle a bunch. I'm not usually in the ILM market, but this is the only SA discussion I found for the NC forums. I'm in Winston-Salem.
I have one regular on SA: An AA MILF; we get together about once a month. GFE sets me back about 150 per visit. She'd accept less, but she's great and I'm not going to push it. Definitely the best I've met from SA. She's not even on the site anymore, so I'm pretty sure I'm the only one she's meeting with. She's definitely just not getting what she needs at home, rather than doing it for the money.
I almost never bother with college-age. For the unreasonable expectations mentioned usually, plus the lack of maturity (I'm early 50's). That limits the market, but there are still a decent amount of candidates whenever I sign back up for a month.
I'm cheap, so we usually do car fun if the gal can't host. That turns off a fair number. But I'm not paying for a hotel room for a couple hours or less.I got back on with the hurricane to see if anyone needed some $ to help out. Found one young one right off the bat, have added her to my list of regulars. Others wanted gas money up front, all sorts of b. S. Was kind of a waste. Kudos to you sir for finding your AA MILF! Sounds like the perfect situation, wish I had your luck. Peace.
I got back on with the hurricane to see if anyone needed some $ to help out. Found one young one right off the bat, have added her to my list of regulars. Others wanted gas money up front, all sorts of b. S. Was kind of a waste. Kudos to you sir for finding your AA MILF! Sounds like the perfect situation, wish I had your luck. Peace.Yeah, I definitely enjoy the MILF. And she seems to enjoy me as well.
I looked in the Jax / Sneads Ferry / Topsail area and haven't seen much. Heard from just one, but I think she's a pro. Might try her out when I'm in the area this weekend, but probably won't do anything ongoing with her unless it's amazing.
I renewed for another month to find some new talent. Still seeing unrealistic allowances exoticsundar wants 500 per visit and lickitysplit4 u wants 3 per meeting. Sillylys wants 100 to meet for dinner and many young ones just want to sell pics. Looks to be a wasted membership this round.
NCHobbyist69
10-25-18, 09:02
I renewed for another month to find some new talent. Still seeing unrealistic allowances exoticsundar wants 500 per visit and lickitysplit4 u wants 3 per meeting. Sillylys wants 100 to meet for dinner and many young ones just want to sell pics. Looks to be a wasted membership this round.You know half these girls are fishing for 3-4 dates tops so they can buy gifts. I'll stick with my UTR ladies, SA has become a wasteland.
You know half these girls are fishing for 3-4 dates tops so they can buy gifts. I'll stick with my UTR ladies, SA has become a wasteland.The UNCW coeds are flush with their student loan funds and Saint Nicknis still not on their radar yet.
By Thanksgiving funds will be history & Cristmas expenses will be a reality.
I saw a real drop off in my SB / UTR at the beginning of the semester vs middle to end.
Especially just before the first of the month and 15th, when rent and her car payment was do.
That's why it's called "mutually beneficial relationship".
Brannigan88
10-26-18, 10:45
I renewed for another month to find some new talent. Still seeing unrealistic allowances exoticsundar wants 500 per visit and lickitysplit4 u wants 3 per meeting. Sillylys wants 100 to meet for dinner and many young ones just want to sell pics. Looks to be a wasted membership this round.But I was able to refill my roster with three regular girls and two backups (have since dumped one of the regulars). All of them cost 200 or 300 a date. Be clear and up front that you'll go no higher and some of them will come down in their expectations.
I renewed for another month to find some new talent. Still seeing unrealistic allowances exoticsundar wants 500 per visit and lickitysplit4 u wants 3 per meeting. Sillylys wants 100 to meet for dinner and many young ones just want to sell pics. Looks to be a wasted membership this round.No question that is the common theme on that site. Young college chicks with inflated opinions of there worth. A few idiots take the bait but with time they realize it ain't happening for them.
FredStrange
11-10-18, 15:42
SB / UTR.
Us old duds don't know the lingo.
SB = Sugar Baby = Typically high grade of service for a higher allowance. Usually someone you work out a more than a one time deal with, for instance X visits for an allowance of $X per month. Haven't done it myself, but would get to far out on the limb of paying for services yet to be rendered.
UTR = Under The Radar, typical a lower volume provider. Typically they have a real job, with a few regulars (sometimes even SD (Sugar Daddies)) that help he with her bills. Again, typically a little high cost, but much closer to a GFE (Girl Friend Experience) and typical much less likely to have demon issues. A good one is a wonderful thing to find, but they are more likely to find a LTR (long term relationship) and quietly slip out of the game.
NCHobbyist69
11-30-18, 08:50
I have on very good authority that there is a young white female on SA pretty much constantly from Burgaw who has a little, shall we say, extra "gift" to share with men she sees? Unfortunately this comes to me from multiple sources, so be very, very careful out there gentlemen. Remember: you tap it, you wrap it! Peace.
StevieTaper
12-03-18, 21:55
Wondering if anyone has any info on PatronSaint. Let my membership expire, and wondering if I should renew to view her messages. Yes I am into thick and curvy. Raleigh guy in Wilmington, haven't had much luck down here, but have plenty of intel to share if any of you venture to the capital city.
Harry Plopper
12-03-18, 23:11
http://bfy.tw/LAik
https://www.yourtango.com/2018312536/what-does-sdsb-mean-simple-guide-to-slang-term-sugar-baby-sugar-daddy
SB / UTR.
Us old duds don't know the lingo.
NCHobbyist69
12-10-18, 09:55
A recent incident spurred me to share a technique that a fellow hobbyist passed down to me for making sure a potential sugar baby doesn't have any screws loose. I usually chat them up on SA, get into texting (via Text Now app to remain anonymous) and set up a meet, usually for coffee, a couple days in advance with the caveat of contacting her before the meet once more to confirm details. The day before our initial meet-and-greet, I contact the potential SB that my schedule has changed and I ask politely to reschedule. If the girl has her shit together, she'll maybe share her disappointment BUT will go ahead and reschedule or otherwise try to work with me. This morning, I had the all-too-common opposite reaction, wherein the girl goes ballistic via text, ranting about how I've somehow ruined her life, owe her money, etc. It just cracks me up insofar as I have no idea of the endgame these ranting lunatics expect -- do they think they can shame us into some sort of make good financially? I just don't get it. ANYWAYS, thought I'd share the technique just as it was shared with me. Have fun, be safe. Peace.
NCHobbyist69
12-13-18, 10:13
Fish in a barrel, gentlemen, fish in a barrel. Lots of young ladies looking to make the holidays complete, reasonable gift donations, it's a good time to be on SA. Don't fall for the upscale girls, there are waaaaaay too many others who are reasonable. Have fun, be safe. Peace.
NCHobbyist69
12-13-18, 11:09
A recent incident spurred me to share a technique that a fellow hobbyist passed down to me for making sure a potential sugar baby doesn't have any screws loose. I usually chat them up on SA, get into texting (via Text Now app to remain anonymous) and set up a meet, usually for coffee, a couple days in advance with the caveat of contacting her before the meet once more to confirm details. The day before our initial meet-and-greet, I contact the potential SB that my schedule has changed and I ask politely to reschedule. If the girl has her shit together, she'll maybe share her disappointment BUT will go ahead and reschedule or otherwise try to work with me. This morning, I had the all-too-common opposite reaction, wherein the girl goes ballistic via text, ranting about how I've somehow ruined her life, owe her money, etc. It just cracks me up insofar as I have no idea of the endgame these ranting lunatics expect -- do they think they can shame us into some sort of make good financially? I just don't get it. ANYWAYS, thought I'd share the technique just as it was shared with me. Have fun, be safe. Peace.Okay so number 1 crazie = jazzibabi https://www.seeking.com/member/5870d9ed-3a00-4e6f-9e06-d5ea201e922c steer clear gentlemen.
Brannigan88
12-13-18, 20:12
Fish in a barrel, gentlemen, fish in a barrel. Lots of young ladies looking to make the holidays complete, reasonable gift donations, it's a good time to be on SA. Don't fall for the upscale girls, there are waaaaaay too many others who are reasonable. Have fun, be safe. Peace.Already have 4-5 girls on the roster from the summer. When it rains it pours LOL.
Brannigan88
12-13-18, 20:16
A recent incident spurred me to share a technique that a fellow hobbyist passed down to me for making sure a potential sugar baby doesn't have any screws loose. I usually chat them up on SA, get into texting (via Text Now app to remain anonymous) and set up a meet, usually for coffee, a couple days in advance with the caveat of contacting her before the meet once more to confirm details. The day before our initial meet-and-greet, I contact the potential SB that my schedule has changed and I ask politely to reschedule. If the girl has her shit together, she'll maybe share her disappointment BUT will go ahead and reschedule or otherwise try to work with me. This morning, I had the all-too-common opposite reaction, wherein the girl goes ballistic via text, ranting about how I've somehow ruined her life, owe her money, etc. It just cracks me up insofar as I have no idea of the endgame these ranting lunatics expect -- do they think they can shame us into some sort of make good financially? I just don't get it. ANYWAYS, thought I'd share the technique just as it was shared with me. Have fun, be safe. Peace.I usually don't do anything like that for the first meet but if I start seeing a girl for a while I'll pull a last-minute cancellation just to see how she reacts. The good, submissive girls just roll with it. The gold diggers, BPDs, and others trying to control the frame go ballistic. Good advice.
Brannigan88
12-13-18, 21:00
I know the hobby scene sucks in ILM right now. BP is down for good. 90% of the girls on Skip are meth / heroin addicts or scammers. SA girls want a ridiculous allowance or the ones that you can pull for a decent rate require extra work. But there are good dreams to be had. Be patient and do the work. And more importantly, don't be a douche and ruin it for the rest of us. Every girl you drive out of the game is one less for the rest of us. Keep the faith, brothers. PSA over.
NCHobbyist69
12-18-18, 08:04
There is one girl that scares the hell out of you like brie0105 up in Jax (https://www.seeking.com/member/b2692f25-4334-469b-9a18-a87c0b790a34). Steer clear; for details, please PM me. Be safe, have fun. Peace.
I can handle the flakes but the ones that try and scam and extort are the ones that are ruining the hobby for me. I am on site please message me details if you don't mind. Thanks.
QUOTE=NCHobbyist69;4069528]There is one girl that scares the hell out of you like brie0105 up in Jax (https://www.seeking.com/member/b2692f25-4334-469b-9a18-a87c0b790a34). Steer clear; for details, please.
https://www.seeking.com/member/70a895cb-705a-45a6-92a1-94ea85056b24
She is quick to respond and eager to meet. Wants to be picked up on Mcrae near Campbell. Seems a bit close to the WPD HQ to me??
Seems hot, tine eye is okay.
https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/79c57b62-8ebc-4572-8e2e-3986de07f4a9
I started to text with her and she seems responsive overall. Anyone have any experience with her?
Seems hot, tine eye is okay.
https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/79c57b62-8ebc-4572-8e2e-3986de07f4a9
I started to text with her and she seems responsive overall. Anyone have any experience with her?Wong link to find her. Can you provide direct to her link?
Wong link to find her. Can you provide direct to her link?https://www.seeking.com/member/e6922cf0-61fd-478e-8665-b7fd511c952d
Brannigan88
02-10-19, 13:58
https://www.seeking.com/member/e6922cf0-61fd-478e-8665-b7fd511c952dWe set up a meet a couple times and she no-showed both times. Seemed into it but got cold feet I guess. Hope you have better luck. She's definitely hot.
We set up a meet a couple times and she no-showed both times. Seemed into it but got cold feet I guess. Hope you have better luck. She's definitely hot.She seems like she is interested in meeting and then if you cannot take her up on it right then and there she goes cold. Probably finds a meet up, gets the money she needs for rent or whatever and goes back to school.
That is what I think. Her byline says something like "fun occasionally". In those cases the persistent one gets the bacon.
NCHobbyist69
02-15-19, 10:26
Got back on this week, had two meet and greets, recognized one gal from backpage total junky pretty scary. Pics looked great though. Other girl was promising am meeting early next week. Getting lots of interest from new girls on the site, but there are a lot of the old girls still on there poking around. New trend seems to be deleting old profiles and starting new ones to look like they just joined the site, and when chatting they're like "oh I've never done this before!" when in fact I remember talking with them spring of 2018 LOL. Anyways, be safe, have fun. Peace.
She seems like she is interested in meeting and then if you cannot take her up on it right then and there she goes cold. Probably finds a meet up, gets the money she needs for rent or whatever and goes back to school.
That is what I think. Her byline says something like "fun occasionally". In those cases the persistent one gets the bacon.She is now talkative. Needs new brakes and something with the master cylinder. Cannot drive very far so you guys in Wilmington have a real opportunity here. Let me know how it goes.
I travel a lot & have been on the campus a few times at UNCW.
You would have to try hard to find a higher percentage of gorgeous, hot coeds anywhere else.
I saw a student in Wilmington once. Still my ATF! She was an escort & kidded with her that they must round up the unattractive coeds & ship them to Smith & Wellesley in Massachusetts.
Do SD's have or have had good hit rates to the FC with UNCW beautys?
It would have been unreal to have had that escort as my SB! At $350 an hour it would have been interesting to see what she would have accepted for several longer visits per month & overnights. She went dark after my one & only dream with her. I have always suspected a rich SD may have taken her off the market. She was so beautiful, smart & just plain real & nice. Trophy wife material.
You never know. I have a current SB that loves sleep overs. We were just together from 3 pm Monday-6 am Wednesday & I might have spent $400 between giving her $250 & meals. I've found the longer you & your SB are together the more economical it becomes. Especially if you can ramp up the cash now & then if they get on the struggle bus. This one works full time so unlike my past SB who were either coeds, a single Mom, a lazy stripper or young hot thing that wants to not be the good girl anymore, is comfortable financially.
Unfortunately I have a great school with tons of SB at home but I can't afford to Daddy at home:
Brannigan88
02-16-19, 17:17
I travel a lot & have been on the campus a few times at UNCW.
You would have to try hard to find a higher percentage of gorgeous, hot coeds anywhere else.
I saw a student in Wilmington once. Still my ATF! She was an escort & kidded with her that they must round up the unattractive coeds & ship them to Smith & Wellesley in Massachusetts.
Do SD's have or have had good hit rates to the FC with UNCW beautys?
It would have been unreal to have had that escort as my SB! At $350 an hour it would have been interesting to see what she would have accepted for several longer visits per month & overnights. She went dark after my one & only dream with her. I have always suspected a rich SD may have taken her off the market. She was so beautiful, smart & just plain real & nice. Trophy wife material.
You never know. I have a current SB that loves sleep overs. We were just together from 3 pm Monday-6 am Wednesday & I might have spent $400 between giving her $250 & meals. I've found the longer you & your SB are together the more economical it becomes. Especially if you can ramp up the cash now & then if they get on the struggle bus. This one works full time so unlike my past SB who were either coeds, a single Mom, a lazy stripper or young hot thing that wants to not be the good girl anymore, is comfortable financially.
Unfortunately I have a great school with tons of SB at home but I can't afford to Daddy at home:I've only met a handful of UNCW and Cape Fear girls and haven't had a ton a luck. One wanted $800 a meet and wasn't even guaranteeing sex. She was absolutely model hot but there was no way I was going to agree to those conditions. I have had dreams with four college girls but two of them were one-and-done deals. Just didn't hit it off with them and didn't want to continue. One I saw for about six months but she ghosted on me just a few weeks ago. The fourth I've seen a few times but she's a bit clingy and odd and I've been putting some distance between us. Haven't found one yet that I'd like to make my main regular girl.
I agree that finding a hot UNCW girl who wants a reasonable allowance would be the dream. But it seems like it's hard to find one that's reliable and realistic about an allowance.
NCHobbyist69
02-18-19, 11:21
I've only met a handful of UNCW and Cape Fear girls and haven't had a ton a luck. One wanted $800 a meet and wasn't even guaranteeing sex. She was absolutely model hot but there was no way I was going to agree to those conditions. I have had dreams with four college girls but two of them were one-and-done deals. Just didn't hit it off with them and didn't want to continue. One I saw for about six months but she ghosted on me just a few weeks ago. The fourth I've seen a few times but she's a bit clingy and odd and I've been putting some distance between us. Haven't found one yet that I'd like to make my main regular girl.
I agree that finding a hot UNCW girl who wants a reasonable allowance would be the dream. But it seems like it's hard to find one that's reliable and realistic about an allowance.I too have encountered some UNC-W lassies who thought quite highly of themselves. I always agree to their outlandish allowance demands -- as long as they don't need any "pre-meet" funds -- and meet them for coffee or at a food court or public park. Never dinner or lunch, as I don't want to be trapped with them. When we meet, I am sure to flash some cash when ordering coffee or whatever, usually like 200 in a money clip all rolled up. I proceed to talk with them about their perfect arrangements, etc. , and feign general interest. When they are done, I simply say look, I have some time right now, and I have x amount on me. We can have some fun or not, period. Sure, I've had some girls storm out in a huff, but I'd say about 3 out of 4 give in to temptation and we end up having fun. That said, not all of those are repeat girls, but let's be honest they're in this for a reason and that reason is they need cash.
Give it your best shot, gentlemen. As always, have fun and be safe. Peace.
Brannigan88
02-19-19, 21:02
I too have encountered some UNC-W lassies who thought quite highly of themselves. I always agree to their outlandish allowance demands -- as long as they don't need any "pre-meet" funds -- and meet them for coffee or at a food court or public park. Never dinner or lunch, as I don't want to be trapped with them. When we meet, I am sure to flash some cash when ordering coffee or whatever, usually like 200 in a money clip all rolled up. I proceed to talk with them about their perfect arrangements, etc. , and feign general interest. When they are done, I simply say look, I have some time right now, and I have x amount on me. We can have some fun or not, period. Sure, I've had some girls storm out in a huff, but I'd say about 3 out of 4 give in to temptation and we end up having fun. That said, not all of those are repeat girls, but let's be honest they're in this for a reason and that reason is they need cash.
Give it your best shot, gentlemen. As always, have fun and be safe. Peace.I'm going to use that one. Thanks, brother.
Anyone had a dream with her lately? It was over a year ago since I saw her and was seeing if she was still good to see.
Anyone had a dream with her lately? It was over a year ago since I saw her and was seeing if she was still good to see.I still see her about once a month. Worth the time!
Who is this provider, can't find any information!
LarryHall81
03-27-19, 16:41
Anyone had any experience with this one. I have always had a thing for redheads. She has been a member on SA for 3 years now so I figured someone would have a little info.
https://www.seeking.com/member/9d520bff-d5ab-1713-71cc-797d0f5acf5c
NCHobbyist69
04-23-19, 09:26
Jumped back on SA to see what the CFCC and UNCW girls had to offer toward the end of their spring semester. Got a couple of fun dates out of it, plus the standard gals asking for a small fortune, a few scammers, and one girl who showed up, texted me that she'd arrived, and upon inspection there she is sitting in the front seat next to a marshawn lynch lookalike who I could only imagine was her pimp LOL. There were a couple of "bots" as I call them, girls who work for SA to try and chat up guys but never meet in order to have them renew their membership, and a few online only girls who were promptly reported to management by yours truly for violating SA rules. All in all, some decent action and it seems to be picking up this last week of classes. My advice? Jump in, have a set budget that you won't deviate from, and when girls set up an appointment days in advance and then the morning of the appointment text you to say they need a cash advance for gas, do what I do and politely say no thank you. Sure you'll get some blowback like the nice text (see attached) I got today from a fine young lady who is a little frustrated, but in the end it's all in good fun. Happy hunting, and remember, have fun and be safe. Peace.
I just got back on $44 for 3 months. Not a single girl from Wilmington on there! Been on site before so am I missing something? Thanks.
Jumped back on SA to see what the CFCC and UNCW girls had to offer toward the end of their spring semester. Got a couple of fun dates out of it, plus the standard gals asking for a small fortune, a few scammers, and one girl who showed up, texted me that she'd arrived, and upon inspection there she is sitting in the front seat next to a marshawn lynch lookalike who I could only imagine was her pimp LOL. There were a couple of "bots" as I call them, girls who work for SA to try and chat up guys but never meet in order to have them renew their membership, and a few online only girls who were promptly reported to management by yours truly for violating SA rules. All in all, some decent action and it seems to be picking up this last week of classes. My advice? Jump in, have a set budget that you won't deviate from, and when girls set up an appointment days in advance and then the morning of the appointment text you to say they need a cash advance for gas, do what I do and politely say no thank you. Sure you'll get some blowback like the nice text (see attached) I got today from a fine young lady who is a little frustrated, but in the end it's all in good fun. Happy hunting, and remember, have fun and be safe. Peace.
NCHobbyist69
04-30-19, 06:55
I just got back on $44 for 3 months. Not a single girl from Wilmington on there! Been on site before so am I missing something? Thanks.I'm pretty sure you are NOT on seeking arrangement aka SA. It's more expensive than 44/ month my friend.
I was on there before and had some success. I am on the right site but it has changed. There used to be an App but not anymore. It is just seekingdotcom now. It gave me two options of $19 p / m auto renew or $44 for 3 months. You are correct in that it was much more. After I paid I had access for about an hour and no women from this area or even close. I than got notification my account was suspended!
I'm pretty sure you are NOT on seeking arrangement aka SA. It's more expensive than 44/ month my friend..
Brannigan88
05-15-19, 11:02
Seem to recall seeing her on Skip. Any intel from someone who's connected with her on SA?
https://www.seeking.com/member/7d06c3e9-93ed-cdd8-1c34-7b9f7eec4c40
OrdinaryJohn
07-06-19, 12:07
Lot of contacts but haven't closed the deal on anyone yet. Lots of flakes.
I had success in the past. Worst case could browse and look and a lot of local women. When I search now I get two Wilmington profiles and they are terrible. I don't get it 😩.
Lot of contacts but haven't closed the deal on anyone yet. Lots of flakes.
Brannigan88
07-08-19, 18:49
I had success in the past. Worst case could browse and look and a lot of local women. When I search now I get two Wilmington profiles and they are terrible. I don't get it 😩.And got 135 profiles in Wilmington in my search results. Maybe you need to reset your filter?
I have zero filter on other than 250 mil radius. This is what I get. 😩.
Can you text? I can DM you my number.
And got 135 profiles in Wilmington in my search results. Maybe you need to reset your filter?
I have zero filter on other than 250 mil radius. This is what I get. 😩.
Can you text? I can DM you my number.Change your filter to last login maybe?
OrdinaryJohn
07-23-19, 20:12
Or maybe I'm way off.
https://www.seeking.com/member/ccb7bf41-1d7e-4dff-834c-f22b3d5c8d93
We texted and were supposed to meet but something came up and I had to postpone. She absolutely went off and started texting that she was googling me and all this weird shit was coming up. I'd stay away. Too bad--she has some cute pics.
Anyone met this one? We texted and were going to meet but I got a bad vibe. Not her fault really, just spidey sense was tingling.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5aeddeb0-66bd-4dbb-996f-ec138b74e21c
NCHobbyist69
07-24-19, 07:38
Or maybe I'm way off.
https://www.seeking.com/member/ccb7bf41-1d7e-4dff-834c-f22b3d5c8d93
We texted and were supposed to meet but something came up and I had to postpone. She absolutely went off and started texting that she was googling me and all this weird shit was coming up. I'd stay away. Too bad--she has some cute pics.
Anyone met this one? We texted and were going to meet but I got a bad vibe. Not her fault really, just spidey sense was tingling.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5aeddeb0-66bd-4dbb-996f-ec138b74e21cTried to private message you but your mailbox is full.
OrdinaryJohn
07-24-19, 07:46
Tried to private message you but your mailbox is full.Oops! It's clear now. Thanks!
I was on there before and had some success. I am on the right site but it has changed. There used to be an App but not anymore. It is just seekingdotcom now. It gave me two options of $19 p / m auto renew or $44 for 3 months. You are correct in that it was much more. After I paid I had access for about an hour and no women from this area or even close. I than got notification my account was suspended!
.You may be on the site but it is a different venue. In other words you can either be seeking an arrangement as a man, or accepting the arrangement (women). But the man and women are not counted, SA site only cares if you are looking to pay money for an arrangement and that is $89 or if you are willing to accept money for an arrangement and that is $44. I called support and had this clarified for me because otherwise it is confusing.
So yes the site has changed alright. You may be looking at some Sugar Mamas!!
I was reading through this post a while back and read someone's comment about having success on SA. I had never tried an arrangement like this so I figured what the heck. I created a profile and quickly realized you have to pay in order to communicate with anyone. Ok, so I did the monthly and thought let me see what happens in 30 days. After filtering through its of fake profiles and getting all kinds of fake communication. I found the one true diamond! I kid you not a F ing unicorn. Here's a tip to filter: you'll get all kinds of likes and messages of interest, but as soon as I asked them to send me an email and not use the site to chat, they would disappear and stop talking. I had a handful actually send me an email and they were legit. Any tips on the financial arrangements you guys have made in the past to keep them happy would be greatly appreciated. Happy hunting!!
I let my seeking membership expire again. I got email from seeking as if "what's your price" site my be better fit. I filled out profile and saw some familiar faces. Haven't listened anything yet. Anyone tried it out? Thanks.
I let my seeking membership expire again. I got email from seeking as if "what's your price" site my be better fit. I filled out profile and saw some familiar faces. Haven't listened anything yet. Anyone tried it out? Thanks.Have used both Seeking & WYP out here in Colorado, found that Seeking was a more reliable source but they screwed me out of two months of subscription fees and basically told me to FO when I complained. Now am using Secret Benefits but it has mostly lookie-lus and have only hit pay dirt once in six months.
I thought I read something here about most discreet way to join SA was to use a ore paid. I tired and it didn't work. Can someone reach out to me that has had success with paying without using card with all your personal details? Can pm me and if text on my burn. Headed to NY soon and want to explore opportunities. Thanks.
If you go on SA there's tons of potential SBs in Wilmington. Wondering why more info isn't shared.
Full disclosure I had an unreal SB here for over 2 1/2 years. She wasn't on SA & I came to know her through other means. She had a live in BF so she was very discreet & she wasn't open or looking to more than seeing me, so I wasn't allowed to share. Best sex & time of my life!
Maybe that's the problem with the lack of reports? I can see if you find a UNCW babydoll & she doesn't want you to share because she's a one Daddy Baby but why not expose the scammers, platonic only & pic / vid sellers?
It weeds out who not to waste time on. I've had girls in other cities, Fayetteville, Richmond, Roanoke & NoVa that asked me to widen there circle of friends & I have obliged. I've also outed the ones described above.
I need to convert my membership to paid status & will report back.
Good Sugaring All!
DF.
I was reading through this post a while back and read someone's comment about having success on SA. I had never tried an arrangement like this so I figured what the heck. I created a profile and quickly realized you have to pay in order to communicate with anyone. Ok, so I did the monthly and thought let me see what happens in 30 days. After filtering through its of fake profiles and getting all kinds of fake communication. I found the one true diamond! I kid you not a F ing unicorn. Here's a tip to filter: you'll get all kinds of likes and messages of interest, but as soon as I asked them to send me an email and not use the site to chat, they would disappear and stop talking. I had a handful actually send me an email and they were legit. Any tips on the financial arrangements you guys have made in the past to keep them happy would be greatly appreciated. Happy hunting!!I'm surprised you got lucky using email. The girls on SA are texting like you & I are talking. It's second nature to them & there most preferred method of communication. They don't hardly talk on their cells anymore. Guarantee, as soon as you ask them to go to text your hit rate will go up, unless your still hooked up with the unicorn POA & your not looking any more.
Be sure to be using a burner phone or texting app. There are some crazy / scammers out there. Now and then, someone gets an extortion attempt. So play safe.
Blonde_bby_girl has anyone ever met her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/e6922cf0-61fd-478e-8665-b7fd511c952d
Blonde_bby_girl has anyone ever met her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/e6922cf0-61fd-478e-8665-b7fd511c952dTried to chat with her. Think she's a waste of time just playing games. Won't engage. Only a few texts back and forth.
Am happy to offer another UTR. Only Senior members. Do not waste my time if you are not a senior on here. PM me for details. Mixed race. Sexy as hell. Please state her name KIM in you response. I will not respond If you don't have her name in your response. GFE. And will go the extra mile to make you happy so you will return.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/app/profile/a2e005f21a075295
ArmaBellator
05-07-20, 11:37
Been traveling down to Wilmington on most weekends. SA scene is outstanding. Plenty of gorgeous SBs. Just have to put in the time and cultivate the relationships. Slowly. Well worth the effort. Only one target that was spied.....got away....but I still have hope? Willing to share my successes on DM. Bring something to the discussion table too. Happy Hunting. Cheers. Arma.
I'm not sure what is happening lately but over the past 3 weeks the site is full of talent but they all disappear after a couple days. Are they all bots??
HardAndLucky
07-21-20, 09:24
Had the pleasure of having this one again. PM if you are interested.
https://www.seeking.com/member/87e4b4bf-3a08-440b-9c8f-633c92ab6014
Tried to chat with her. Think she's a waste of time just playing games. Won't engage. Only a few texts back and forth.https://www.seeking.com/member/e6922cf0-61fd-478e-8665-b7fd511c952d
ArmaBellator
07-22-20, 11:11
Hey Gents -.
Any information on Callie Stream on SA? https://www.seeking.com/member/1d83f425-dbfc-4767-b8e6-7877c62a67da or.
WildRide 25 https://www.seeking.com/member/0145e0c4-83aa-412b-933b-f0bd0c242fa7.
Looks promising, so wonder if anyone has seen her lately. Older posts.
Cheers.
Arma.
Hey boys. Is this SA site legit? I just found out about it yesterday and. Holy shit. It is Europe level. I have a couple set up, but I am wondering what the catch is. A little inside baseball would be appreciated. I promise I will return the favor after my recon.
Wheaton278
07-28-20, 20:22
I used to see her regularly around 2016 when she worked at a strip club in topsail, before she became a waitress. She was super sexy but had a bitter tasting box. Made daty a little rough. And she wasn't much for going outside her comfort zone in the bed, which was mainly just laying there. But she was always sweet and fun to talk with before and after. I always kept it to $$ per meet even though she pushed for more.
Had the pleasure of having this one again. PM if you are interested.
https://www.seeking.com/member/87e4b4bf-3a08-440b-9c8f-633c92ab6014
Wheaton278
07-28-20, 20:26
Met her a couple of times but could never seal the deal. At the time she was very into DDLG and talking to her like a baby was a little hard because she wouldn't come out of it. What's crazy is she worked for a car dealership And said she hated the boss. She ended up applying for a position at my workplace twice in the last couple of years. I didn't pass her resume along because from my experience she would be a tiger in bed but a sack of crazy in the workplace.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e6922cf0-61fd-478e-8665-b7fd511c952d
Myrtle Beach
07-28-20, 22:39
Met her a couple of times but could never seal the deal. At the time she was very into DDLG and talking to her like a baby was a little hard because she wouldn't come out of it. What's crazy is she worked for a car dealership And said she hated the boss. She ended up applying for a position at my workplace twice in the last couple of years. I didn't pass her resume along because from my experience she would be a tiger in bed but a sack of crazy in the workplace.Never get your pussy and your paycheck In the same building. Never.
Wheaton278
07-29-20, 22:45
Never get your pussy and your paycheck In the same building. Never.It's a law for me but it's also a struggle because we end up with so many interns and entry level college age females here. So many I can tell would be down for some sugar dating, but I know it leads to disaster. I saw a buddy get blackmailed by it. So it's all burner phones and fake names for me.
Met her a couple of times but could never seal the deal. At the time she was very into DDLG and talking to her like a baby was a little hard because she wouldn't come out of it. What's crazy is she worked for a car dealership And said she hated the boss. She ended up applying for a position at my workplace twice in the last couple of years. I didn't pass her resume along because from my experience she would be a tiger in bed but a sack of crazy in the workplace.I did met up with her and in the limited environment, when to front street for several hours for dinner, and then back to my boat. Very good time, but it took a lot of energy to schedule and meet her.
Gents, recently moved to the area from Raleigh / Durham, and using Seeking to locate a local SB. In Raleigh, members worked their hardest to stay connected and ensure price points remained reasonable. In my early searching, either I'm getting a number of girls with GPS, or bad luck with the ones seeking 4 per meet. In Raleigh, we rated girls A. Smoking hot model type / stripper. B. girl next door / college cutie, or C. Bbw or best to have beer goggles on, but worth a shot. A - $$ B - $$. C - $.
Is there a norm in this area? Please tell me $$ is not the standard.
Thanks gents. Have a few good to go for the high number and can share if it's the standard and guys are paying it.
Stay safe,
Gibbs.
Brannigan88
09-08-20, 22:36
Gents, recently moved to the area from Raleigh / Durham, and using Seeking to locate a local SB. In Raleigh, members worked their hardest to stay connected and ensure price points remained reasonable. In my early searching, either I'm getting a number of girls with GPS, or bad luck with the ones seeking 4 per meet. In Raleigh, we rated girls A. Smoking hot model type / stripper. B. girl next door / college cutie, or C. Bbw or best to have beer goggles on, but worth a shot. A - $$ B - $$. C - $.
Is there a norm in this area? Please tell me $$ is not the standard.
Thanks gents. Have a few good to go for the high number and can share if it's the standard and guys are paying it.
Stay safe,
Gibbs.There are girls who ask ridiculous sums for a single date, 800 and more, but if you're patient you can find some winners who are willing to meet for a reasonable price. I've met 2 or 3 of the hottest girls I've ever been with through SA and haven't paid more than 300.
Brannigan.
So here's there SCAM. The send you this:
I'm not sure if you're into this or not, but this is my roomate andI we're both bi and had an arrangement in the past would loveto get into one again. My friend and I have done this once, and itworked out really well. We're usually expecting $200-$250 for a public meet and greet to know that you're willing to financially provide to us, and then $350-$450 for in-person private meetings at ourapartment, a hotel, or wherever you would want. If that is something that interests you, let me know.
Then will never follow thru to meet you private. Someone needs to stop these SCAMMERS!!
Gents, recently moved to the area from Raleigh / Durham, and using Seeking to locate a local SB. In Raleigh, members worked their hardest to stay connected and ensure price points remained reasonable. In my early searching, either I'm getting a number of girls with GPS, or bad luck with the ones seeking 4 per meet. In Raleigh, we rated girls A. Smoking hot model type / stripper. B. girl next door / college cutie, or C. Bbw or best to have beer goggles on, but worth a shot. A - $$ B - $$. C - $.
Is there a norm in this area? Please tell me $$ is not the standard.
Thanks gents. Have a few good to go for the high number and can share if it's the standard and guys are paying it.
Stay safe,
Gibbs.Please stop using the double secret probation BS code!
Use real dollar amounts please. $300 not $$$ that the site posts as $$! Yes, definitely my pet peeve.
Totally unnecessary! Merica' Bro.
DF.
ArmaBellator
11-03-20, 10:48
Good day Gents.
Saw this one a few days ago. Has a place with her roomie (Baby-Cece on SA). Not the cute blonde in the profile photo. A little heavier than I prefer (but still big girl cute), but wide open menu. Tried to negotiate a little higher for the area (off Gordon Road). However, from initial contact to her apartment was literally 2 hours. She is all business. So my suspicion could be high volume. If you click on her profile, you will get a standard message detailing her desires. Might repeat. Or move it to a monthly type arrangement. Fun time and very submissive to whatever you want.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3e0c9faf-1560-43be-bd0d-234d5ac7f2b7
Happy Hunting.
Cheers. Arma.
ArmaBellator
11-05-20, 14:43
Saw her again yesterday since she is really easy to schedule as was just 5 minutes away. Now. I will see her every month. Cheers.
Good day Gents.
Saw this one a few days ago. Has a place with her roomie (Baby-Cece on SA). Not the cute blonde in the profile photo. A little heavier than I prefer (but still big girl cute), but wide open menu. Tried to negotiate a little higher for the area (off Gordon Road). However, from initial contact to her apartment was literally 2 hours. She is all business. So my suspicion could be high volume. If you click on her profile, you will get a standard message detailing her desires. Might repeat. Or move it to a monthly type arrangement. Fun time and very submissive to whatever you want.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3e0c9faf-1560-43be-bd0d-234d5ac7f2b7
Happy Hunting.
Cheers. Arma.
BeachGuy21
11-05-20, 14:58
Saw her again yesterday since she is really easy to schedule as was just 5 minutes away. Now. I will see her every month. Cheers.Her profile shows not available. Is there anywhere else we can see photos?
Her profile shows not available. Is there anywhere else we can see photos?Her profile is back up now.
Anyone met her yet. She was very easy to talk to and immediately offered full service. Kinda Leary about her and her roommate Sadie.
Anyone met her yet. She was very easy to talk to and immediately offered full service. Kinda Leary about her and her roommate Sadie.https://www.seeking.com/member/8c6be664-b597-488d-9e7c-7a0e3954f6fc
Bro, Lame response and hell of a welcome. How about: in this area, we use real dollar amounts, and not $$. Much more appropriate from someone looking to welcome a Sr Members from another part of the State where the "double secret code" IS the standard. Sorry if it's so hard to figure out, and if it put you off.
Thanks for lack of help, and insight into why NO ONE post any real information here. Thought this was about us helping to keep each other safe and informed, not a place to take pot shots at someone trying to revive a dying board!
Gibbs.
Please stop using the double secret probation BS code!
Use real dollar amounts please. $300 not $$$ that the site posts as $$! Yes, definitely my pet peeve.
Totally unnecessary! Merica' Bro.
DF.
Bro, Lame response and hell of a welcome. How about: in this area, we use real dollar amounts, and not $$. Much more appropriate from someone looking to welcome a Sr Members from another part of the State where the "double secret code" IS the standard. Sorry if it's so hard to figure out, and if it put you off.
Thanks for lack of help, and insight into why NO ONE post any real information here. Thought this was about us helping to keep each other safe and informed, not a place to take pot shots at someone trying to revive a dying board!
Gibbs.I guess he got confused by counting roses. Short bus rider.
ArmaBellator
11-12-20, 21:32
Sadie is a bigger, cute girl. Her roommate CeCe is just as big and less cute. Pics are old and about 40 lbs ago. She might be your taste, but definitely not average or curvy. BBW. Sadie is back in Tampa. She texted me today and asked if I wanted to see CeCe. Truthfully, I told her on Monday I relocated to North Myrtle Beach. Happy Hunting. Cheers. Arma.
Sadie is a bigger, cute girl. Her roommate CeCe is just as big and less cute. Pics are old and about 40 lbs ago. She might be your taste, but definitely not average or curvy. BBW. Sadie is back in Tampa. She texted me today and asked if I wanted to see CeCe. Truthfully, I told her on Monday I relocated to North Myrtle Beach. Happy Hunting. Cheers. Arma.This afternoon cece said I could come hang out with her and Sadie. They were bored. Interesting and I'm looking for spinners so I'll pass. Thanks.
Anyone met her yet. She was very easy to talk to and immediately offered full service. Kinda Leary about her and her roommate Sadie.I saw cece last week. She is friendly and accommodating. She offers her place to use. Room is clean. She has a roomate which she stopped by when I was there and didn't mind me being there. Damage was 2 benjamins, gave me a BBBJ but can tell she is not into bjs. Hit missionary and doggy after. She let me chill to recover and go again. She will allow any position and raw at higher price with cip. Worth the price in my opinion. She ia a little chubby but not obese. Will probably repeat.
Her friend sadie, texted me a couple days later to see her but haven't had the chance if anyone had the experience with her, would like to hear about it.
She did admit to be a high volume I.
I saw cece last week. She is friendly and accommodating. She offers her place to use. Room is clean. She has a roomate which she stopped by when I was there and didn't mind me being there. Damage was 2 benjamins, gave me a BBBJ but can tell she is not into bjs. Hit missionary and doggy after. She let me chill to recover and go again. She will allow any position and raw at higher price with cip. Worth the price in my opinion. She ia a little chubby but not obese. Will probably repeat.
Her friend sadie, texted me a couple days later to see her but haven't had the chance if anyone had the experience with her, would like to hear about it.
She did admit to be a high volume I.How do I get her contact information? Definitely interested!
How do I get her contact information? Definitely interested!Join SA and talk to her.
Heads up gents, her profile is gone again but her name in the description is Madison age 27 she works at a day spa. She did a grab and dash on me a couple years ago. I saw her post on SA over the weekend so I set up a meet at a hotel. She showed up 2 hours late same as last time. But this time I was just in the parking lot and gave her a random room number. Her driver and another male friend stayed in the car while she went in. I'm assuming it was another planned grab and dash. LOL she looked pissed off when she came out of the hotel. Sent some entertaining texts to my text app too.
Any brothers dreamt with her out of new Bern? Seems to easy to talk with and schedule a meet. I have a meet set for this weekend but looking for any info.
As and older post about Cece, and that she had put on some weight but was ok. She seemed to disappear for some time and is now responding. Here and her roommate Stassi as texting today and quickly dropped to 300 for both. Any recent experience with them? Seems too good to be true, pictures they are sending (a lot) seem all over the place and not sure they are same person, and they dropped so quickly in price. Would like some feedback as it is just feeling off.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8c6be664-b597-488d-9e7c-7a0e3954f6fc
https://www.seeking.com/member/5fc9d0b2-1822-4426-be9d-e1317b86f0d9
Thanks,
Gibbs.
Met up with her about a month ago, and she's a little heavier than pics. Sweet girl who really wants a regular Daddy. Ok experience for me, but not someone I'd see regular. BBBJ was ehh, and she didn't seem to have a lot of experience there. CG, to K9 before releasing into the bag. She's looking to pay bills and see someone a time or two a month. $150 for the meeting.
https://www.seeking.com/member/45c4e51f-01e8-47cd-8b8c-ead3434b35ed
Stay safe, Gibbs.
Met up with her about a month ago, and she's a little heavier than pics. Sweet girl who really wants a regular Daddy. Ok experience for me, but not someone I'd see regular. BBBJ was ehh, and she didn't seem to have a lot of experience there. CG, to K9 before releasing into the bag. She's looking to pay bills and see someone a time or two a month. $150 for the meeting.
https://www.seeking.com/member/45c4e51f-01e8-47cd-8b8c-ead3434b35ed
Stay safe, Gibbs.Her profile is not active anymore. I got sucked back in with a membership to replace a couple that moved away.
NCHobbyist69
02-19-21, 09:56
Lots of flaky ones in Wilmington / Jax, and there's no way I'm heading down to STD central aka Myrtle / Conway, SC. Happy hunting! Have fun, be safe.
I just tried it and works for me. Had you messaged with her before and maybe she blocked you?
CeCe and roommate both show gone for me, but would not surprise me if someone told them about my post and I was blocked. That seems to happens too often here, and probably why no post about good ones??
Her profile is not active anymore. I got sucked back in with a membership to replace a couple that moved away.
NCHobbyist69
02-22-21, 16:07
Goes by CholeBlaze on the site, super fun girl. Is in a bit of a bind so asked me to post her pics, pm me for number.
RavensFan2012
04-22-21, 17:51
Goes by CholeBlaze on the site, super fun girl. Is in a bit of a bind so asked me to post her pics, pm me for number.I had a date set up with her in Feb then she went dark and hasn't been active since then. If she's still meeting I'd love to see her.
RavensFan2012
04-27-21, 21:31
Alexxx2323-I drove all the way up from Myrtle beach and when I get there she said she got nervous and threw up in the bathroom and left. Was steaming.
Lexxigirll-this one expects to be paid for m&g. Anyone that says that upfront is a guaranteed rinser.
Sugar0077-pain in the ass to try and ask to and when I finally do she says she wants $200 each for her and her friend to meet for dinner
Kskiii-only wants online
Strawberry-blondie- platonic only
Zoey-pic seller
I've been in the bowl for 5 years and in my short time in this area I have come to the conclusion that Wilmington is nothing but college girls who think they're going to get rich selling pics or meeting in public.
Wheaton278
04-28-21, 08:28
Alexxx2323-I drove all the way up from Myrtle beach...
I've been in the bowl for 5 years and in my short time in this area I have come to the conclusion that Wilmington is nothing but college girls who think they're going to get rich selling pics or meeting in public.I travel a lot for work and I can tell you pretty much everywhere I've been since COVID started, the wells have run dry. So many of these kids are collecting unemployment, so they are getting $400 a week (it was more in summer 2020) to literally do nothing. So yeah it takes a big wad of cash to get pretty much any of these girls to drop their panties. In addition, since so many are collecting unemployment, they don't need the sugar sites and that means limited numbers of ladies on there with more dudes than ever looking to find a sugar baby. So the ones that are on there are getting blown up by desperate dudes. It's hard to be patient, but I promise in 6-12 months there will be more girls than we can handle. The economy is at an all time high and the government is overextending itself paying millions of Gen Z-er's to not work. That leads to an economic crash, which leads to sugaring for a single Benjamin Franklin per date vs these girls asking 3 or 4.
It's exactly what happened after the 08 crash. So for now I'm laying low and saving up for a wild 2022!
RavensFan2012
04-28-21, 10:45
I travel a lot for work and I can tell you pretty much everywhere I've been since COVID started, the wells have run dry. So many of these kids are collecting unemployment, so they are getting $400 a week (it was more in summer 2020) to literally do nothing. So yeah it takes a big wad of cash to get pretty much any of these girls to drop their panties. In addition, since so many are collecting unemployment, they don't need the sugar sites and that means limited numbers of ladies on there with more dudes than ever looking to find a sugar baby. So the ones that are on there are getting blown up by desperate dudes. It's hard to be patient, but I promise in 6-12 months there will be more girls than we can handle. The economy is at an all time high and the government is overextending itself paying millions of Gen Z-er's to not work. That leads to an economic crash, which leads to sugaring for a single Benjamin Franklin per date vs these girls asking 3 or 4.
It's exactly what happened after the 08 crash. So for now I'm laying low and saving up for a wild 2022!I had tremendous success in Virginia Beach, I'm getting better luck at the MB clubs than SA but unfortunately that means that the price is higher also.
RavensFan2012
05-09-21, 11:19
I had a date set up with her in Feb then she went dark and hasn't been active since then. If she's still meeting I'd love to see her.She's active again but now she's requiring a 3 some for 8 bills. Thought she'd change her mind when I declined but nope. Tough to get people to do a 3 some the first time you meet.
Brannigan88
05-14-21, 21:14
So I signed up for Secret Benefits a week ago. Over the last two years I let my stable of regulars dwindle to nothing so I figured it was time to try to restock. I had used Seeking previously with good success and wanted to try a different site.
First impressions: their pricing sucks. Unlike Seeking, they don't charge a monthly fee for unlimited access. Instead you buy credits and you use those credits to unlock conversations, private photos, or boost your profile. I bought 100 credits for $60. It costs 10 credits to unlock a conversation with one girl or to unlock private photos, so 100 doesn't go very far. Compare that to $100 a month on Seeking for unlimited texting.
What's the quality of girls like, I'm sure you're all asking. Pretty much the same as Seeking. It's a mix of college students, single moms, and UTR escorts. However, I have been having a harder time getting meet-ups. I'm sure part of it is because I'm a little rusty doing this and part of it is the lingering affects of the COVID quarantine and people are still hesitant to meet in person, but I'm batting pretty much zero right now.
My recommendation is to give Secret Benefits a pass if you're looking for a sugar baby. Seeking is the much better option.
So I signed up for Secret Benefits a week ago. Over the last two years I let my stable of regulars dwindle to nothing so I figured it was time to try to restock. I had used Seeking previously with good success and wanted to try a different site.
First impressions: their pricing sucks. Unlike Seeking, they don't charge a monthly fee for unlimited access. Instead you buy credits and you use those credits to unlock conversations, private photos, or boost your profile. I bought 100 credits for $60. It costs 10 credits to unlock a conversation with one girl or to unlock private photos, so 100 doesn't go very far. Compare that to $100 a month on Seeking for unlimited texting.
What's the quality of girls like, I'm sure you're all asking. Pretty much the same as Seeking. It's a mix of college students, single moms, and UTR escorts. However, I have been having a harder time getting meet-ups. I'm sure part of it is because I'm a little rusty doing this and part of it is the lingering affects of the COVID quarantine and people are still hesitant to meet in person, but I'm batting pretty much zero right now.
My recommendation is to give Secret Benefits a pass if you're looking for a sugar baby. Seeking is the much better option.Thanks for the info. I too have run dry and the new price of $100 on seeking has kept me away.
Bachelor1234
05-20-21, 14:04
Trip to the coast coming up. Any SBs who I need to connect with? Happy to provide leads in return.
https://www.seeking.com/billing/memberships?promo=MAY21V33
RavensFan2012
06-04-21, 11:45
Don't waste your time with this one. Talked to her for a week and when finally schedule a public date she gives me the "I expect my time to be compensated" BS.
Don't waste your time with this one. Talked to her for a week and when finally schedule a public date she gives me the "I expect my time to be compensated" BS.Her profile says you have to pay for any meet. Profile has runaway from her written all over.
RavensFan2012
06-06-21, 16:11
Her profile says you have to pay for any meet. Profile has runaway from her written all over.I thought that once all the Covid restrictions disappeared the amount of scammers online only and platonic would drop dramatically but it's actually gotten worse as much as I love it say it's almost got to the point it's not even worth it anymore in fact I probably would've already dropped off of any pros ever visited the Myrtle Beach area.
I thought that once all the Covid restrictions disappeared the amount of scammers online only and platonic would drop dramatically but it's actually gotten worse as much as I love it say it's almost got to the point it's not even worth it anymore in fact I probably would've already dropped off of any pros ever visited the Myrtle Beach area.I've noticed the same here in Myrtle Beach. Nothing but online only or girls that claim they want to meet but you have to send money in advance for a baby sitter or gas or some bs reason.
I joined again with the sale price. Have found a whole bunch of fakes, flakes, and time wasters. What has the area come to? I've even tried the I'm gay angles and just want a friend! Some are now expecting 1-2 k. Really, maybe in Vegas or NYC but this is southeastern north cakalac. WTF.
Played an early game with her. Wants a platonic dinner $500. I hope there are no Brothers are paying that to her. Especially since she posted nee pics. It may be tempting but not worth the hassle.
Played an early game with her. Wants a platonic dinner $500. I hope there are no Brothers are paying that to her. Especially since she posted nee pics. It may be tempting but not worth the hassle.That's the same thing she told me tonight! LOL.
Seems to be recently too many on here with GPS. Chatted with this one and her platonic "Dinner Date" was $500. If any of you brothers are paying this. Your upsetting the balance of nature. I've only paid for two M&G ever and never agree to $ up front and only at a very modest $50 rate because they drive far to meet me. I'm guessing this might work for some mongers but not me. It was a hard "No, I don't find it necessary to pay for someone to meet me for dinner" . HAHA. Waste of time.
Bachelor1234
06-07-21, 11:46
Seems to be recently too many on here with GPS. Chatted with this one and her platonic "Dinner Date" was $500. If any of you brothers are paying this. Your upsetting the balance of nature. I've only paid for two M&G ever and never agree to $ up front and only at a very modest $50 rate because they drive far to meet me. I'm guessing this might work for some mongers but not me. It was a hard "No, I don't find it necessary to pay for someone to meet me for dinner" . HAHA. Waste of time.I think everyone here has chatted with her, LOL. She told me that she has been too scared to meet anyone in person but has had online arrangements. Asked her to meet and she said absolutely nothing physical. My guess is that she is just in over her head.
As in the past efforts on SA, Fayetteville and Myrtle are hopping with talent ready to meet but old Ilm is full of scams.
Seems to be recently too many on here with GPS. Chatted with this one and her platonic "Dinner Date" was $500. If any of you brothers are paying this. Your upsetting the balance of nature. I've only paid for two M&G ever and never agree to $ up front and only at a very modest $50 rate because they drive far to meet me. I'm guessing this might work for some mongers but not me. It was a hard "No, I don't find it necessary to pay for someone to meet me for dinner" . HAHA. Waste of time.If she is paying than sure. I would even take $300 from her as long as she buys.
3 roses to play at her place on shipyard, awesome body.
This one wants 1 rose to meet for dinner. WTF is this town coming too.
This one wants 1 rose to meet for dinner. WTF is this town coming too.I was shocked when I moved here to find prices a $ more than Chapel Hill. And several playing the meal ticket game (get a free meal and never contact again). Must be people paying the higher prices and willing the play the dinner game, or more would lower their GPS expectations. Just saying, behavior continues so some must be enabling it.
Be safe,
Gibbs.
Lists under myrtle but is in Wilmy. Another wanting 3 roses for dinner.
List under myrtle and wants 4 roses per meet.
Another from myrtle been chatting a bit and each time to meet she needs 50 to 60 sent for the sitter. Has to pay the sitter before the sitter arrives I guess.
Lists jacksonville but lives in beaulaville, a 4 roses ppm kinda girl.
RavensFan2012
06-13-21, 16:08
This one wants $100 for coffee. This BS needs to stop.
This one wants $100 for coffee. This BS needs to stop.About right for a cup at Starbucks, LOL just sayin Roush.
Are some guys actually stupid enough to pay $ for an introduction dinner?
Are some guys actually stupid enough to pay $ for an introduction dinner?I'm thinking there are some losers out there paying for a first meeting over dinner. These morons are ruining the sport for the rest of us.
Brannigan88
06-15-21, 18:10
Are some guys actually stupid enough to pay $ for an introduction dinner?Drinks to get to know each other then agree on an arrangement.
Another from myrtle been chatting a bit and each time to meet she needs 50 to 60 sent for the sitter. Has to pay the sitter before the sitter arrives I guess.I live in MB. I chatted with her about a month ago. Same thing. I called her out. Offered to pick her up and give her babysitter double in person. She wanted me to send the money CashApp before I came to get her. Reported her and blocked her.
RoundThePort69
06-30-21, 14:52
Lists jacksonville but lives in beaulaville, a 4 roses ppm kinda girl.Can you PM me her number.
Thanks.
NCHobbyist69
07-02-21, 11:57
Can you PM me her number.
Thanks.Please send contact info, will reciprocate w / under the radar girl in surf city thanks.
In regards to the recent post about paying for a meet and greet Dinner or drinks. I encounter this very thing. Which I am 100% against BTW. So this is what she says.
Her: I do usually charge a small fee for a meet and greet just leting ya know in advance LOL.
Me: what is that?
Her: $100. Thats just for my security to make sure we are good when it comes down to what you really want LOL.
Me: I'm not accustomed to that.
Her: Like I said I've never had a problem with it and it's really just for my security to know that you can pay for what you really want, plus I know I'm worth it. But it's all good. Ever change your mind let me know!
Me: I just look at it like. I'm paying the bill. And if we both want to move forward good. If not I'm only out the bill. You are only out free drinks or a good meal.
I don't get how me paying her 100 to meet for a drink to talk is for her security and insure I can pay the agreed amount later. So anyway.
So I have a theory it might not be across the board but. What if the girls doing this. Is all they do. They meet for a diner or drinks and get paid 100 bucks they get a couple of free drinks or even better a meal. Then when it comes down to anything else ghosted. Just a thought.
In regards to the recent post about paying for a meet and greet Dinner or drinks. I encounter this very thing. Which I am 100% against BTW. So this is what she says.
Her: I do usually charge a small fee for a meet and greet just leting ya know in advance LOL.
Me: what is that?
Her: $100. Thats just for my security to make sure we are good when it comes down to what you really want LOL.
Me: I'm not accustomed to that.
Her: Like I said I've never had a problem with it and it's really just for my security to know that you can pay for what you really want, plus I know I'm worth it. But it's all good. Ever change your mind let me know!
Me: I just look at it like. I'm paying the bill. And if we both want to move forward good. If not I'm only out the bill. You are only out free drinks or a good meal.
I don't get how me paying her 100 to meet for a drink to talk is for her security and insure I can pay the agreed amount later. So anyway.
So I have a theory it might not be across the board but. What if the girls doing this. Is all they do. They meet for a diner or drinks and get paid 100 bucks they get a couple of free drinks or even better a meal. Then when it comes down to anything else ghosted. Just a thought.If a sb meets 1 sucker a week for a c note that's $5200 a year tax free!
Been hobbying for about 6 years but getting tired of how dry Wilmington is and most of the SA girls are scams. Does anyone have any good UTR girls.
Another from myrtle been chatting a bit and each time to meet she needs 50 to 60 sent for the sitter. Has to pay the sitter before the sitter arrives I guess.What's the sitter look like? May be some bargain trim? As long as she's 18 of course!
I found a legit 18 why o ebony smoke show in Fredericksburg, Va. Had her send me her license before I agreed to play. Two months later she sent me pics of her HS graduation. Yet another check of the bucket list!
I was shocked when I moved here to find prices a $ more than Chapel Hill. And several playing the meal ticket game (get a free meal and never contact again). Must be people paying the higher prices and willing the play the dinner game, or more would lower their GPS expectations. Just saying, behavior continues so some must be enabling it.
Be safe,
Gibbs.Sorry, but my experience is Wilmington Babies are, as a rule about $100 cheaper than Chapel Hill ones. Many here won't pay the $300 for prime coed age Babies, which is their choice. Not throwing shade on anyone & don't care for those that thinks that's dishing out too much cabbage.
For me, 3-5 hours with an 18-25 why o 8-10, slim with a perfect ass is worth it. Plenty of time for two rounds minimum. Do I put in a lot of time finding them, getting them comfortable? Hell yes! I'm no Brad Pitt but I can make them laugh & charm the panties off of them.
What's the sitter look like? May be some bargain trim? As long as she's 18 of course!
I found a legit 18 why o ebony smoke show in Fredericksburg, Va. Had her send me her license before I agreed to play. Two months later she sent me pics of her HS graduation. Yet another check of the bucket list!Excellent find.
I always have them text me their I'd when they say they're 18,19, or look suspiciously young. No pussy is worth being locked up for years and fucking up the rest of your life.
Brannigan88
07-20-21, 20:31
Sorry, but my experience is Wilmington Babies are, as a rule about $100 cheaper than Chapel Hill ones. Many here won't pay the $300 for prime coed age Babies, which is their choice. Not throwing shade on anyone & don't care for those that thinks that's dishing out too much cabbage.
For me, 3-5 hours with an 18-25 why o 8-10, slim with a perfect ass is worth it. Plenty of time for two rounds minimum. Do I put in a lot of time finding them, getting them comfortable? Hell yes! I'm no Brad Pitt but I can make them laugh & charm the panties off of them.Agreed that $300 a date is reasonable for a good sb. They tend to be younger, hotter, and demon-free in comparison to STG trash. My problem is with the girls on SA who expect $200 just for a meet-and-greet or $600+ a date or ones that want a platonic arrangement. Unfortunately, those type of girls seem to have come out of the woodwork since COVID hit. Used to be I could go on SA once a year and find 3 to 5 great girls who I would see for a year or more. Now, not so much. Hopefully, as things get back to normal the gold-diggers who are just looking for quick cash and no sex will go away.
NCHobbyist69
07-21-21, 12:51
Agreed that $300 a date is reasonable for a good sb. They tend to be younger, hotter, and demon-free in comparison to STG trash. My problem is with the girls on SA who expect $200 just for a meet-and-greet or $600+ a date or ones that want a platonic arrangement. Unfortunately, those type of girls seem to have come out of the woodwork since COVID hit. Used to be I could go on SA once a year and find 3 to 5 great girls who I would see for a year or more. Now, not so much. Hopefully, as things get back to normal the gold-diggers who are just looking for quick cash and no sex will go away.300 is reasonable. As for the 200 for meet and greet, I've had that happen before and simply said okay fine but it's got to be cash. Then when I get there I simply don't give it to them. Twice the girl didn't care and agreed to play, the other time she tried following me to my car and I simply told her to f**k right off, she did.
INeedItBad
08-23-21, 02:40
New semester has begun, might have someone in the works with a 22 why / o. Most of the exchanges I have though go nowhere quick or end when girl asks for 300+ for M&G. Favorite was a 2nd year who wanted 600 and then recommend I look at her OF profile (that'll be interesting since nudes will be banned in a little over a month).
Can any of you guys recommend SB sites other than SA? I had a lot of good luck on SA. Younger to middle aged. I still have one UNCW SB that I love hanging out with, but would like to throw in some variety. The gals in their 30-40's all want to get married. Pro tip. Be careful about them giving it away. They will expect a deeper connection in return.
The last time I was in SA I noticed a change in the talent (much of which has been mentioned here). Is there another quality option? Thanks. Dutch.
300 is reasonable. As for the 200 for meet and greet, I've had that happen before and simply said okay fine but it's got to be cash. Then when I get there I simply don't give it to them. Twice the girl didn't care and agreed to play, the other time she tried following me to my car and I simply told her to f**k right off, she did.It varies I believe. I have done alot of M&G for 50-100 mostly. SOMETIMES I would do 150 but its rare I go above 100 for just a M&G as its more like a dating service like Tender or Bumble.
It even has all of the pit falls of Tender and Bumble where some girls are just doing it to score a free drink or dinner from you. And sometimes they don't look anything like their pictures and you end up trying to end the date as soon as possible.
RavensFan2012
09-07-21, 21:22
It varies I believe. I have done alot of M&G for 50-100 mostly. SOMETIMES I would do 150 but its rare I go above 100 for just a M&G as its more like a dating service like Tender or Bumble.
It even has all of the pit falls of Tender and Bumble where some girls are just doing it to score a free drink or dinner from you. And sometimes they don't look anything like their pictures and you end up trying to end the date as soon as possible.Thanks dude, you're the reason girls keep thinking they can make money off just m&g's. SMH.
Thanks dude, you're the reason girls keep thinking they can make money off just m&g's. SMH.Why would anyone ever give any money for a m&g? WTF! Stick to escorts if you like giving away cash.
Looking to get back up with her if anyone has her info. Pretty sure she's UTR now. She was the real deal. We really hit it off had a great time for a year or so. I'm back in town. Any info would be awesome. Thanks in advance.
NCHobbyist69
09-22-21, 11:01
Wow hey so who wants a young college student who wants 500 to hang with them? WOW these girls are dreaming, either that or some of you out there are paying what they're asking. SA is a shit show right now. Buyer beware.
Would love to know if anyone has any experience with a SB named Mari. Says she is a CO-ED at UNCW but never actually confirmed. Met awhile back in March and started paying games. Backed off, then reconnected in September. Acts like a sweetheart wants to get paid fir pictures. Including Dildo Shower play. I have spent some time with her. She's cute but think she's actually living with another girl that is actually her lesbian GF. Won't engage but promises FC. Any info would be appreciated. Ghosted last week and not heard from her since. If she's playing games with others. We need to inform other brothers.
WayOutThere
10-08-21, 19:59
Would love to know if anyone has any experience with a SB named Mari. Says she is a CO-ED at UNCW but never actually confirmed. Met awhile back in March and started paying games. Backed off, then reconnected in September. Acts like a sweetheart wants to get paid fir pictures. Including Dildo Shower play. I have spent some time with her. She's cute but think she's actually living with another girl that is actually her lesbian GF. Won't engage but promises FC. Any info would be appreciated. Ghosted last week and not heard from her since. If she's playing games with others. We need to inform other brothers.She's active on SB. Texted me all week. Felt weird to me so did not pursue. My guess is she's playing games but who knows?! Good luck.
PanthersFan777
10-10-21, 16:16
Glad to see your post. She played the same game with me a couple of weeks ago. Too much BS for the price of admission. Good luck and buyer beware.
Would love to know if anyone has any experience with a SB named Mari. Says she is a CO-ED at UNCW but never actually confirmed. Met awhile back in March and started paying games. Backed off, then reconnected in September. Acts like a sweetheart wants to get paid fir pictures. Including Dildo Shower play. I have spent some time with her. She's cute but think she's actually living with another girl that is actually her lesbian GF. Won't engage but promises FC. Any info would be appreciated. Ghosted last week and not heard from her since. If she's playing games with others. We need to inform other brothers.
Would love to know if anyone has any experience with a SB named Mari. Says she is a CO-ED at UNCW but never actually confirmed. Met awhile back in March and started paying games. Backed off, then reconnected in September. Acts like a sweetheart wants to get paid fir pictures. Including Dildo Shower play. I have spent some time with her. She's cute but think she's actually living with another girl that is actually her lesbian GF. Won't engage but promises FC. Any info would be appreciated. Ghosted last week and not heard from her since. If she's playing games with others. We need to inform other brothers.She's 100% lesbo. She moved down here to be with her Butch lesbian lover.
I met her through SA last year. I think right before Covid hit. She was upfront about living with her roommate and that she didn't know if she was into taking any dick. I was a bit intrigued because she is or at least was a bodybuilder, who just switched from weights to CrossFit. I was willing to invest a little bit of time and went ahead and did a dinner. Her and her SO had just moved into an apartment & had no pots& pans. I took her to target and bought her a cheap set. Of course no good deed goes on punished and that was the last I ever heard of her.
At least you got a couple pics. I'm glad to see you she doesn't have a dick! Ha ha.
I've always wanted to bring one of these scammers to a very expensive restaurant. When dinner is just about over make like I have emergency phone call that I need to take. Walk away from the table scoot out the door and drive away and leave the ***** with a huge dinner bill.
She's 100% lesbo. She moved down here to be with her Butch lesbian lover.
I met her through SA last year. I think right before Covid hit. She was upfront about living with her roommate and that she didn't know if she was into taking any dick. I was a bit intrigued because she is or at least was a bodybuilder, who just switched from weights to CrossFit. I was willing to invest a little bit of time and went ahead and did a dinner. Her and her SO had just moved into an apartment & had no pots& pans. I took her to target and bought her a cheap set. Of course no good deed goes on punished and that was the last I ever heard of her.
At least you got a couple pics. I'm glad to see you she doesn't have a dick! Ha ha.
I've always wanted to bring one of these scammers to a very expensive restaurant. When dinner is just about over make like I have emergency phone call that I need to take. Walk away from the table scoot out the door and drive away and leave the ***** with a huge dinner bill.This one. I think she goes by Marlene possibly?
https://members.seeking.com/member/57e0cb63-bde9-4797-ae17-6eb7bcab9b3d
Ok boys who is paying for a meet and greet?? This one advertises that she charges for a meet and greet! Stop treating them like they deserve this crap, you are ruining the hobby!!
Can any of you guys recommend SB sites other than SA? I had a lot of good luck on SA. Younger to middle aged. I still have one UNCW SB that I love hanging out with, but would like to throw in some variety. The gals in their 30-40's all want to get married. Pro tip. Be careful about them giving it away. They will expect a deeper connection in return.
The last time I was in SA I noticed a change in the talent (much of which has been mentioned here). Is there another quality option? Thanks. Dutch.So I have just dipped my toe in the bowl and got on secretbenefits.com or SB. I think they get most of their profiles from an actual dating site as the profiles read like that and the pics, especially the so called "Secret Albums" are just extra candid shots, nothing more risque than that in my experience. I had tried SA, but when I went to charge a gift card (Vanilla from walmart,) it locked my profile. Since then, I went and registered my vanilla card which had to have my real name and address and then it worked at SB. But I don't like having a card with my real name used on one of those sites. Any suggestions on sites and also especially suggestions on a payment that is anonymous?
Anyone have any contact with her.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profilev3/14b4377351365637
Does anyone know of her? Very beautiful and almost too hot to be true.
Very responsive in messaging, is she pro, semi-pro, or maybe a real sb or catfish, LOL.
I've found a lot of catfish this trip out, and that is not what I am fishing for.
She travel between Florida and NC, so this leads me to think pro.
https://members.seeking.com/member/44879cb2-b913-4eb6-9dab-00c0c443aa6b
Does anyone know of her? Very beautiful and almost too hot to be true.
Very responsive in messaging, is she pro, semi-pro, or maybe a real sb or catfish, LOL.
I've found a lot of catfish this trip out, and that is not what I am fishing for.
She travel between Florida and NC, so this leads me to think pro.
https://members.seeking.com/member/44879cb2-b913-4eb6-9dab-00c0c443aa6bI also have her my to do list. Yes looks TGTBT, has she given you how much compensation she's expecting and do you have any contact information.
I also have her my to do list. Yes looks TGTBT, has she given you how much compensation she's expecting and do you have any contact information.She is real. We connected on social media. Never met up. She isn't a pro and one of those SB asking for lots of $$ I offered to fly her out to Miami for a vacation and she still needed lots of $$$ added on.
Does anyone know of her? Very beautiful and almost too hot to be true.
Very responsive in messaging, is she pro, semi-pro, or maybe a real sb or catfish, LOL.
I've found a lot of catfish this trip out, and that is not what I am fishing for.
She travel between Florida and NC, so this leads me to think pro.
https://members.seeking.com/member/44879cb2-b913-4eb6-9dab-00c0c443aa6bShe is my regular SB. DM me for details.
She is my regular SB. DM me for details.Contacted her sent me couple selfies large then she appears, but is cute. Wants 5 Benjamins sorry not me, who pays that.
NCHobbyist69
12-06-21, 09:07
It's like fish in a barrel gentlemen. Lots and lots of wayward college age hotties looking for financial support to buy gifts, travel, etc. Highly recommend poking around. Oh, and if a girl asks for $ to meet and greet, just say yes and then don't pay. I've met two girls in two weeks, had fun both times without paying for the first coffee meeting. It's not hard to do.
Is she for real, any intel.? She's also on SA.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profilev3/60af9e2ad6f69651
Is she for real, any intel.? She's also on SA.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profilev3/60af9e2ad6f69651Can't open link what is her SA name?
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