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CrazyFishin
05-14-17, 03:18
Got to agree entirely with this poster. I see Itzel as often as possible when I'm in town, and I'm alway extremely satisfied with her service. By saying she is "big" is accurate if you ran she is tall, which she is. She is built very nicely for her frame, athletic bordering on amazon. I'd love to see her in a Wonder Woman outfit (hint hint baby 😉 she could certainly pull it off. Yes she's a safety girl but so what? So is Charlie! We all love her too. Truthfully, after following some of your nasty asses she should probably be wearing a biohazard suit LOL. But seriously, for reliability, demeanor, hygiene, beauty and personality, I think we are extremely lucky we have a lady like Itzel visiting us regularly. Treat her right gentleman!!I wouldn't call her build athletic. Amazon yes maybe. Tall yes. Thick yes. Nothing wrong with that, some prefer that also. She should be listed as BBW. I agree with the post she is big and her photos don't really show that.
SucculentItzel
05-14-17, 11:27
I wouldn't call her build athletic. Amazon yes maybe. Tall yes. Thick yes. Nothing wrong with that, some prefer that also. She should be listed as BBW. I agree with the post she is big and her photos don't really show that.Statistics says your height reflects your weight I'm 6 ft tall in order to be at normal weight you have to be 160-180 lbs when you're 6 ft tall I'm no where near overweight for my height just want to throw that out there for the ignorant people that just referred to me as a BBW. A BBW is not only a (big body woman) but the majority are extremely overweight. As to I'm not.
SlopeSunrise
05-14-17, 13:20
I wouldn't call her build athletic. Amazon yes maybe. Tall yes. Thick yes. Nothing wrong with that, some prefer that also. She should be listed as BBW. I agree with the post she is big and her photos don't really show that.I certainly would NOT classify her in the BBW category. Makes me wonder if you've ever even met her. I saw her new pics, they are accurate. She is a gorgeous, tall and curvy woman. She cares about her her body and in my opinion her body is perfect. Of course everyone has preferences. Some like spinners, some like short and fat. I like statuesque, classic beauties like our lovely ATF visiting girl. Seems to me that last year there were those trying to put Piper in the same "FATegory". That one was baffling to me too, but she conquered. Sounds like rival dogs trying to drive a fox to its doom. But everyone knows, only a dog likes a bone!
Ok, Anchorage now has it's own fight thread.
You want to review a review you do it here. You want to call a guy an asshole, do it here.
Now that there is a fight thread, if you douche up a review thread, and you only have to do it once, I throw the flag and put you on moderation.
A2
I certainly would NOT classify her in the BBW category. Makes me wonder if you've ever even met her. I saw her new pics, they are accurate. She is a gorgeous, tall and curvy woman. She cares about her her body and in my opinion her body is perfect. Of course everyone has preferences. Some like spinners, some like short and fat. I like statuesque, classic beauties like our lovely ATF visiting girl. Seems to me that last year there were those trying to put Piper in the same "FATegory". That one was baffling to me too, but she conquered. Sounds like rival dogs trying to drive a fox to its doom. But everyone knows, only a dog likes a bone!I'm doing this in blue so it's the position of the forum
Fat or not fat, same as skinny not skinny, big titties little titties is a thing that is in each persons mind. I like lean women, tits on a stick is my thing. It's what I like, that is neither good nor bad, it's just what I like.
I have a buddy down here who thinks the chicks I like are fat. He likes his skeleton thin, personally I think it's gross but he likes it. He doesn't tell me that the chicks I like are fat but I know he thinks it.
The lady in question doesn't think she fat, guess what? She's right. If I saw her I, like the guy you're finger waggen, might think she's fat. Guess what? I'm right as well. Because I think she's fat. You don't think she's fat. Guess what? You are right as well.
Wanna know where you went wrong? When you fucking white knighted her and told the other guy he was wrong because he thinks she's fat.
Stop reviewing other guys posts.
A2
I certainly would NOT classify her in the BBW category. Makes me wonder if you've ever even met her. I saw her new pics, they are accurate. She is a gorgeous, tall and curvy woman. She cares about her her body and in my opinion her body is perfect. Of course everyone has preferences. Some like spinners, some like short and fat. I like statuesque, classic beauties like our lovely ATF visiting girl. Seems to me that last year there were those trying to put Piper in the same "FATegory". That one was baffling to me too, but she conquered. Sounds like rival dogs trying to drive a fox to its doom. But everyone knows, only a dog likes a bone!Admin 2 is right. It's ALL stupid shit.
"BBW" is an acronym that's supposed to mean "Big Beautiful Woman". Social overuse has twisted it into being a secret code-word for "FAT" (not to be confused with "PHAT".).
So really, BOTH side of the argument are right - 'cause one man's "fat" is another man's "big beautiful woman". It's easily resolved. Just list her approximate height and her approximate weight and a few photos; let the individual monger decide for himself. After a couple of decades of mongering I've learned that for every provider (EVERY provider) There is a line of johns waiting to fuck her. Regardless of her physical appearance.
Personally, "Itzel" looks like a pretty big woman, and I wouldn't fuck her with ANY of you guys' dicks.
But I might fuck her with MINE.
SA.
SucculentItzel
05-14-17, 21:47
Admin 2 is right. It's ALL stupid shit.
"BBW" is an acronym that's supposed to mean "Big Beautiful Woman". Social overuse has twisted it into being a secret code-word for "FAT" (not to be confused with "PHAT".).
So really, BOTH side of the argument are right - 'cause one man's "fat" is another man's "big beautiful woman". It's easily resolved. Just list her approximate height and her approximate weight and a few photos; let the individual monger decide for himself. After a couple of decades of mongering I've learned that for every provider (EVERY provider) There is a line of johns waiting to fuck her. Regardless of her physical appearance.
Personally, "Itzel" looks like a pretty big woman, and I wouldn't fuck her with ANY of you guys' dicks.
But I might fuck her with MINE.
SA.Can we just stop talking about me already. The pot has already been stirred let it be. It's funny because I bet you where this is coming from is from people I haven't even dated so ironic.
Can we just stop talking about me already. The pot has already been stirred let it be. It's funny because I bet you where this is coming from is from people I haven't even dated so ironic.Ma'am, obviously I have no idea what you look like. My comments were meant to address the idiocy of one guy telling another guy how he should think of a particular person.
From reading what you wrote you seem to have a positive image of yourself and at the end of the day that's all that really matters. I meant no offense.
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SucculentItzel
05-15-17, 00:44
Ma'am, obviously I have no idea what you look like. My comments were meant to address the idiocy of one guy telling another guy how he should think of a particular person.
From reading what you wrote you seem to have a positive image of yourself and at the end of the day that's all that really matters. I meant no offense.
A2I've been offended. Look I'm not a child I REALIZE not everyone is going to be happy. This is a very judgemental business on both ends for the provider and the client. The only part I'm offended on is this whole thing could've been avoided if you just would've flagged the guy that lied about my pictures being outdated in the first place. What really tipped the ice berg is you're still letting these guys that haven't even dated me talk that bs without letting me defend myself. That's VERY OFFENSIVE. That makes me feel like this website is purposely putting providers under scrutiny just because they couldn't keep their nasty GFE dicks in their pants. I know you won't post this shit it's fine but at least you read it and I'm fucking done here.
I'me wondering if it would be at all possible for you to have worse manners. I'm thinking not.
Hopefully this is indeed you being done here. If it's not I'll be helping you along with that.
A2
Barry Burton
05-15-17, 18:46
nasty GFE dicksHaha never heard this phrase but, it has had me giggling all day. Definitely will use it for the next online sight I sign up with. That is all.
SucculentItzel
05-15-17, 22:21
Haha never heard this phrase but, it has had me giggling all day. Definitely will use it for the next online sight I sign up with. That is all.Glad I can make you laugh.
I think I found my new favorite thread, just sit back and watch the show. I have. I comments on Itzel's size or status but have looked at her add several times, just haven't pulled the trigger yet. She looks beautiful and has a ton of great reviews so I may have to meet her.
Thanks for the entertaining posts.
Summit.
Oh dear God, how utterly ridiculous. I don't want to ever hear "defending" from providers. I could care less what you have to say. You want to impress me, get great reviews by providing fantastic service. If you're fat and posing a certain way to make yourself look less fat or whatever make damn sure you are an absolute unbelievable experience to make up for it. Your little rant has definitely made me not want to roll the dice on you. Whereas if a couple guys had posted reviews saying Itzel is really trying to prove herself with mind blowing quality service I might have tried you out.
Itzel,
I trust you don't mind my posting a photo from an older BP ad of yours. I just want to show these guys what they're missing, simply one of the most beautiful women I've ever had the pleasure of being with.
SucculentItzel
05-17-17, 14:44
Oh dear God, how utterly ridiculous. I don't want to ever hear "defending" from providers. I could care less what you have to say. You want to impress me, get great reviews by providing fantastic service. If you're fat and posing a certain way to make yourself look less fat or whatever make damn sure you are an absolute unbelievable experience to make up for it. Your little rant has definitely made me not want to roll the dice on you. Whereas if a couple guys had posted reviews saying Itzel is really trying to prove herself with mind blowing quality service I might have tried you out.I don't understand this post it just sounds like another person who's mad because people are vouching for me. I'm not GFE never will be PERIOD. Certainly don't have to be (profit wise) and I certainly don't need donations from you so you can keep your two cents. I've told clients before if you don't like it don't COME it's very simple. And I do have great reviews and I do provide great service. No amount of money can make me risk my health just to make you happy SORRY not sorry.
ArmyPog123
05-17-17, 22:39
It Always cracks me up when people talk about their health when it comes to DFK, BBBJ, or the likes. Itzel nobody cares you don't offer GFE. But when you lecture someone about it moments after dreaming, and act offended that someone would suggest such a thing is comical at best, just considering what IS acceptable! Cracks me up thinking about it!
AKwankerman
05-18-17, 00:53
I don't understand this post it just sounds like another person who's mad because people are vouching for me. I'm not GFE never will be PERIOD. Certainly don't have to be (profit wise) and I certainly don't need donations from you so you can keep your two cents. I've told clients before if you don't like it don't COME it's very simple. And I do have great reviews and I do provide great service. No amount of money can make me risk my health just to make you happy SORRY not sorry.This is rich! The harlot thinks GFE means health risk. GFE doesn't mean BBFS, it means emotional connection. Like a a girl friend.
I saw Itzel about 6 mos ago, was ok. Not bad. Not overly wonderful, I busted a nut so all good. She pretty big, tall and about as fat as Amanda. Kinda like Fucking a fat Wookiee. Kinda fun and I enjoyed the time I spent with her. But more of getting your freak out, than something you fantasize about. She's the girl I'd text at 3 am at last resort. Not the first. I will say she was professional and nice. Not really worth the rates she charges though. Especially since you can find hotter and easier for free at koots. Can do way better and hotter for free or much less.
SucculentItzel
05-18-17, 10:40
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SucculentItzel
05-18-17, 10:43
This is rich! The harlot thinks GFE means health risk. GFE doesn't mean BBFS, it means emotional connection. Like a a girl friend.
I saw Itzel about 6 mos ago, was ok. Not bad. Not overly wonderful, I busted a nut so all good. She pretty big, tall and about as fat as Amanda. Kinda like Fucking a fat Wookiee. Kinda fun and I enjoyed the time I spent with her. But more of getting your freak out, than something you fantasize about. She's the girl I'd text at 3 am at last resort. Not the first. I will say she was professional and nice. Not really worth the rates she charges though. Especially since you can find hotter and easier for free at koots. Can do way better and hotter for free or much less.Lmao this doesn't even sound accurate at all but OK I HIGHLY doubt you can find that at kootz otherwise why would you be looking for trim on the internet.
AKwankerman
05-18-17, 22:04
Lmao this doesn't even sound accurate at all but OK I HIGHLY doubt you can find that at kootz otherwise why would you be looking for trim on the internet.The great part about a pro like you my dear is that there is no obligation afterward. I enjoyed you and will see ya again the next time my big tall girl fetish pops up. Until then please keep us entertained. And yes it was accurate, I am little guy so it was like climbing on a Wookiee and going for a ride. A fun ride, overpriced but enjoyable.
SucculentItzel
05-19-17, 08:42
The great part about a pro like you my dear is that there is no obligation afterward. I enjoyed you and will see ya again the next time my big tall girl fetish pops up. Until then please keep us entertained. And yes it was accurate, I am little guy so it was like climbing on a Wookiee and going for a ride. A fun ride, overpriced but enjoyable.If I was overpriced and you can find hotter and better then WHY would you say you'd love to see me again? HA! I knew this was such BS and don't Wookiees have a lot of hair all over their bodies and talk weird HAHA dude I have a feeling this is a friend of someone that doesn't like me, I'm pretty sure this is a gay bartender in mad Myrna's. The reason I know is because he's rude to me and likes listening to Star Wars over the bar!
Give her a few months for the rush to die down, she will be wishing she had made all those loosers who wanted to feel special for a few minutes happy, and had them repeating.
I've seen Itzel a few times, got on her bad side once, one time by a misunderstood text. Man she was pretty rude. I seen her anyhow, she's a good dream all in all. Something is sexy about her.
I was in Anchorage on a long layover so I decided to see Molly Monroe. Anyways I was astounded because I thought she was a little fat dude dressed up as a woman. Not even close to being her in her ad pictures.
AKwankerman
05-19-17, 14:48
If I was overpriced and you can find hotter and better then WHY would you say you'd love to see me again? HA! I knew this was such BS and don't Wookiees have a lot of hair all over their bodies and talk weird HAHA dude I have a feeling this is a friend of someone that doesn't like me, I'm pretty sure this is a gay bartender in mad Myrna's. The reason I know is because he's rude to me and likes listening to Star Wars over the bar!I like you just fine. I'll hum Star Wars in your ear next time I see ya if that helps.
Wookiee comment wasn't about the hair, was about your height and girth which is formidable for a little guy like me.
Delta 15, Bianca: advertised age (29), real age (44).I'm not sure why anyone would care about what a provider's real age is. I mean, I ALWAYS assume ANY woman shaves years off her age under most circumstances. Age is only a number in an ad, and besides, aren't you pretty old yourself?
For me, as long as I know a provider is above the age of legal consent I don't really care how old she is, OR how old she SAYS she is. What I seek is intimacy, passion, and MUTUAL pleasure; I'm not looking for any impressionable sex slave. In fact, in my experience, women in their 30's and 40's (I. E. Serenity, KeriDoll, etc.) have always turned out to be the best, most enthusiastic and skilled lovers. No "training" required, and they not only know what a man likes, they also know what THEY like.
You can have your inexperienced teenagers; I prefer women.
SA.
P.S. Benjamin Franklin, in his "Advice to a Young Man" offered 8 reason to marry an older woman:
1. Because they have more Knowledge of the world, and their Minds are better stored with Observations; their Conversation is more improving, and more lastingly agreeable.
2. Because when Women cease to be handsome, they study to be good. To maintain their Influence over Men, they supply the Diminution of Beauty by an Augmentation of Utility. They learn to do a thousand Services, small and great, and are the most tender and useful of all Friends when you are sick. Thus they continue amiable. And hence there is hardly such a thing to be found as an old Woman who is not a good Woman.
3. Because there is no hazard of children, which irregularly produced may be attended with much inconvenience.
4. Because through more Experience they are more prudent and discreet in conducting an Intrigue to prevent Suspicion. The Commerce with them is therefore safer with regard to your reputation; and with regard to theirs.
5. Because in every Animal that walks upright, the Deficiency of the Fluids that fill the Muscles appears first in the Highest part, The Face first grows lank and wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower parts continuing to last as plump as ever; so that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old one from a young one.
6. Because the sin is less. The Debauching of a Virgin may be her Ruin, and make her Life unhappy.
7. Because the Compunction is less. The having made a young Girl miserable may give you frequent bitter Reflections; none of which can attend making an old Woman HAPPY.
8th & lastly. They are so grateful!
A BP provider's Delta is the difference between her advertised age and her real age. I've updated this list to include providers whose Delta is zero, that is, who accurately advertise their real age.
... All real ages are confirmed (calendar year 2017).
...When I'm considering contacting a provider, I look for any and all reviews I can find. No reviews at all usually knocks a "possible" down to a "nah". One review, especially if it's highly positive OR highly negative, can be considered an anomaly, or simply too biased to take at face value. Multiple reviews are usually a very good way to help decide if an advertising provider is worth pursuing. That's what we scientists call doing your "due diligence".
Your premise appears to be that providers who advertise an age different from their real age are dishonest. So if they're dishonest, as you say they are, we have to assume they're not voluntarily confessing their real ages to others, including you. With no other evidence, aside from your claim of "confirmed", what proof do we have that your numbers are correct?
I'm not saying you're guessing or lying, I'm just asking how you could accurately know their ages? And what corroborating evidence, if any, you can provide to support your claims?
SA.
Some have given me enough information that I can find their court records, which lists their dates of birth. Some have showed me their I'd's.
When I'm considering contacting a provider, I look for any and all reviews I can find. No reviews at all usually knocks a "possible" down to a "nah". One review, especially if it's highly positive OR highly negative, can be considered an anomaly, or simply too biased to take at face value. Multiple reviews are usually a very good way to help decide if an advertising provider is worth pursuing. That's what we scientists call doing your "due diligence".
Your premise appears to be that providers who advertise an age different from their real age are dishonest. So if they're dishonest, as you say they are, we have to assume they're not voluntarily confessing their real ages to others, including you. With no other evidence, aside from your claim of "confirmed", what proof do we have that your numbers are correct?
I'm not saying you're guessing or lying, I'm just asking how you could accurately know their ages? And what corroborating evidence, if any, you can provide to support your claims?
SA.
JoeSixPack
05-21-17, 22:37
Some have given me enough information that I can find their court records, which lists their dates of birth. Some have showed me their I'd's.I think this is the same poster if anyone gives a shit.
Some have given me enough information that I can find their court records, which lists their dates of birth. Some have showed me their I'd's.So, basically "cyberstalking" I guess.
SA.
I think all this thread has accomplished for me is making me want to see Itzel now. I had tried once before but I use a text app and couldn't call her. Afterwards she wouldn't respond to any more texts. Too bad, I do have a thing for tall women. Maybe one day.
I had been interested in trying to meet up with this gal, I believe she goes by Olivia?
http://anchorage.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/im-not-burger-king-but-you-can-definitely-have-it-your-way/5164929
Because who doesn't like a self diagnosed nympho!
Recently received a good report from a member so thought I would reach out, but looking at her ads she now offers BB cream pies. I have a hard time wanting to go see a provider who takes those kind of risks.
I'm all about the GFE, but more concerned with my long term health.
Anyone else have any thoughts or experience in this area??
CP.
BeardedDude
05-25-17, 14:37
I had been interested in trying to meet up with this gal, I believe she goes by Olivia?
http://anchorage.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/im-not-burger-king-but-you-can-definitely-have-it-your-way/5164929
Because who doesn't like a self diagnosed nympho!
Recently received a good report from a member so thought I would reach out, but looking at her ads she now offers BB cream pies. I have a hard time wanting to go see a provider who takes those kind of risks.
I'm all about the GFE, but more concerned with my long term health.
Anyone else have any thoughts or experience in this area??
CP.I would agree. I was excited when I read the positive reviews but I think my fears of catching something from a high risk taker will override my desire for GFE with this one. I attempted to contact after reading the initial good review and BB was offer right away so I declined to take it any further.
I had been interested in trying to meet up with this gal, I believe she goes by Olivia?
http://anchorage.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/im-not-burger-king-but-you-can-definitely-have-it-your-way/5164929
Because who doesn't like a self diagnosed nympho!
Recently received a good report from a member so thought I would reach out, but looking at her ads she now offers BB cream pies. I have a hard time wanting to go see a provider who takes those kind of risks.
I'm all about the GFE, but more concerned with my long term health.
Anyone else have any thoughts or experience in this area??
CP.Virtually every review I've read about Olivia mentions receiving CFS, but some also mention that she OFFERS "BB services" and "CIP" (though THOSE reviewers imply that THEY did not partake of such offerings).
My personal opinion is that, if you are worried about running into leftovers from the guy who went before you, maybe take along a flashlight and a speculum, and conduct your own examination before diving in.
Or simply insert a finger and then taste it. If it tastes like semen, and that bothers you, then take a pass. If it tastes like semen, and you LIKE the taste, maybe you're gay. If it tastes like YOUR semen, and you don't remember being there recently, maybe get tested for Alzheimer's.
SA.
The Tourista
05-25-17, 15:22
I had been interested in trying to meet up with this gal, I believe she goes by Olivia?
http://anchorage.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/im-not-burger-king-but-you-can-definitely-have-it-your-way/5164929
Because who doesn't like a self diagnosed nympho!
Recently received a good report from a member so thought I would reach out, but looking at her ads she now offers BB cream pies. I have a hard time wanting to go see a provider who takes those kind of risks.
I'm all about the GFE, but more concerned with my long term health.
Anyone else have any thoughts or experience in this area??
CP.Just a heads up. I was misfortunate enough to fall into that age old dumbass situation of 'naive well meaning monger tries to rescue young provider from herself ' scenario with Olivia a few years ago. Got to know enough about her to know you don't want to go there. Certainly not bareback, under any circumstances. She's a long-term iv user, and, although I know I'm dancing on the edge of admin dropping this message by saying anything more. I'd DEFINITELY not go there unprotected.
I had been interested in trying to meet up with this gal, I believe she goes by Olivia?
http://anchorage.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/im-not-burger-king-but-you-can-definitely-have-it-your-way/5164929
Because who doesn't like a self diagnosed nympho!
Recently received a good report from a member so thought I would reach out, but looking at her ads she now offers BB cream pies. I have a hard time wanting to go see a provider who takes those kind of risks.
I'm all about the GFE, but more concerned with my long term health.
Anyone else have any thoughts or experience in this area??
CP.I was interested in this girl until she asked me if I wanted BBFS for a hundred more. I just looked at my phone, blinking in disbelief. She messaged again when I didn't reply assuring me that she was on the pill so it was "totally safe. " BBBJ is one thing, but a girl who offers BBFS with anyone but a long time client that has recent test results is not someone I'm interested in seeing. YMMV, but in my book it's just not worth it.
So, basically "cyberstalking" I guess.
SA.And? Anyone who doesn't do a little background check on a girl before agreeing to see her is asking for trouble. Besides, if the girls are showing him their I'd's, clearly they have a trust relationship established so I'd be hesitant to call what he's talking about "stalking. ".
And? Anyone who doesn't do a little background check on a girl before agreeing to see her is asking for trouble. Besides, if the girls are showing him their I'd's, clearly they have a trust relationship established so I'd be hesitant to call what he's talking about "stalking. ".Oh, I'm in favor of, and regularly DO check into providers before committing to meet with them. However, having been around this game a while, I know that most providers are rarely up-front about PERSONAL information, such as their REAL names and other identifying personal data.
As for any but the youngest of girls "showing their IDs" and having a "trust relationship established". Yeah, maybe. But what 33,37, 0 r 44-year-old woman would buy into showing her I'd to prove she's above the age of consent? And what logical excuse BESIDES that reason would seem convincing enough for ANY provider to show I'd to a stranger? Finally, which of these providers that have had their "real" age posted would consider such exposure a reasonable part of a "trust relationship"?
Far more likely some of this information has been obtained through other channels. Such as a connection at DMV running license plates for a pal, bribing a hotel clerk for check-in info, etc.
Here's what I care about: My own safety. Physical and legal, "donation" rates, what to expect from a session, and a providers reputation via reliable reviews. I do NOT care about the delta between their advertised ages and their actual ages. If I arrive to a date and they look more like Father Time's older sister than their ad photos, I'll simply split and text them later to let them know why. So I'm just kind of having a hard time understanding the motive behind "Snoman57" (aka "Fury907", et al) publishing a long list of providers' "real" ages (and claiming it "confirmed" no less). But hey, that's just one man's opinion.
SA.
Top Tier Provider Screening:
Full Real Name (Driver's License / Passport / Military I'd).
Email.
Contact Number.
Home City.
Home State.
Age.
Business / Employer.
1-3 References.
USASG Handle.
TNA Handle.
I can't imagine where you got the idea "top tier" provider actually demand THAT kind of information. I've seen several of the top tier providers in Anchorage. And expect to see many others in that class. And I've never had to provide ANY of those things. What I've done, with universal success, is preemptively offer my screen name (s) and link them to forums where I've been a VIP member for many, many years. And where I am "white-listed" by well-known providers. I've also supplied links to my reviews I've posted over the years. Finally, I always offer reference phone numbers, if they would like to speak with some of my "ATFs". I do this without being asked first.
The provider's next question, without exception, has always been "When would you like to see me?
Of course, like everything else in this hobby, YMMV. I suppose if a guy had a less-than-stellar reputation among providers he had seen. OR fellow hobbyists. It might be a bit tougher. So maybe the lesson here is. Treat these girls with the same courtesy and consideration that YOU would want for yourself. That's certainly worked well for ME.
SA.
Serenitylux907
05-29-17, 04:09
I can't imagine where you got the idea "top tier" provider actually demand THAT kind of information. I've seen several of the top tier providers in Anchorage. And expect to see many others in that class. And I've never had to provide ANY of those things. What I've done, with universal success, is preemptively offer my screen name (s) and link them to forums where I've been a VIP member for many, many years. And where I am "white-listed" by well-known providers. I've also supplied links to my reviews I've posted over the years. Finally, I always offer reference phone numbers, if they would like to speak with some of my "ATFs". I do this without being asked first.
The provider's next question, without exception, has always been "When would you like to see me?
Of course, like everything else in this hobby, YMMV. I suppose if a guy had a less-than-stellar reputation among providers he had seen. OR fellow hobbyists. It might be a bit tougher. So maybe the lesson here is. Treat these girls with the same courtesy and consideration that YOU would want for yourself. That's certainly worked well for ME.
SA.Here again, Snowman is dragging me through the mud. It's getting really old. Why don't you just confess your undying love for me. Show of hands, how many of you hobbies take that have seen me found it especially difficult to screen with me? Most of the time I only check on a few bits of information. If usernames and reviews and references are legit, I don't need all of the other information. There are a million ways to screen. That's why my site says to share what you are comfortable sharing. I use my instincts and I use them well but it's worth it for me to stay alive.
Also from my website. I am VERY serious about protecting the identities of my clients. It should be obvious why I screen but in case you don't know. 1. I don't want to be attacked or murdered because I stupidly lured some random violent stranger to me without checking to see if he was a killer first. 2. That's it. My safety is not negotiable. When you contact me supply as much information as you you can the first time, such as your name, age, city or town of residence, general appearance, etc. Sensitive info can relayed by phone or by secure email. Please remember to be clear about your perfered method of contact. This should take one or two communications. If you can't provide the.
Information I require please look elsewhere. I rely heavily on provider references so if you have them please provide them. I accept requests for screening through the following third party screening services: P411, Verify Him and Date Check (see the links page). Keep in mind that I need to VERIFY the information given, that can involve a discreet call, email or an I'd. I'm an equal opportunity provider but I will gladly dismiss the rude, shady and dishonest. Time wasters are easily spotted and dismissed. As I said before, I am VERY serious about protecting the identities of my clients and prospective clients. I do not keep a little black book or save sensitive information. I am happy to get to know you by your alias. I have no problem with using your fake name, email or burn phone. That is only AFTER I know what kind of person I'm dealing with. Just be forthcoming from the start and you'll find screening with me safe discreet and painless.
AkTraveler
05-29-17, 15:22
Here again, Snowman is dragging me through the mud. It's getting really old. Why don't you just confess your undying love for me. Show of hands, how many of you hobbies take that have seen me found it especially difficult to screen with me? Most of the time I only check on a few bits of information. If usernames and reviews and references are legit, I don't need all of the other information. There are a million ways to screen. That's why my site says to share what you are comfortable sharing. I use my instincts and I use them well but it's worth it for me to stay alive.
Also from my website. I am VERY serious about protecting the identities of my clients. It should be obvious why I screen but in case you don't know. 1. I don't want to be attacked or murdered because I stupidly lured some random violent stranger to me without checking to see if he was a killer first. 2. That's it. My safety is not negotiable. When you contact me supply as much information as you you can the first time, such as your name, age, city or town of residence, general appearance, etc. Sensitive info can relayed by phone or by secure email. Please remember to be clear about your perfered method of contact. This should take one or two communications. If you can't provide the.
Information I require please look elsewhere. I rely heavily on provider references so if you have them please provide them. I accept requests for screening through the following third party screening services: P411, Verify Him and Date Check (see the links page). Keep in mind that I need to VERIFY the information given, that can involve a discreet call, email or an I'd. I'm an equal opportunity provider but I will gladly dismiss the rude, shady and dishonest. Time wasters are easily spotted and dismissed. As I said before, I am VERY serious about protecting the identities of my clients and prospective clients. I do not keep a little black book or save sensitive information. I am happy to get to know you by your alias. I have no problem with using your fake name, email or burn phone. That is only AFTER I know what kind of person I'm dealing with. Just be forthcoming from the start and you'll find screening with me safe discreet and painless.Your screening process is easy, painless AND necessary. A provider that screens is not only interested in her safety, she's interested in yours as well.
SANewGuy has it down. Good post, BTW.
Here again, Snowman is dragging me through the mud. (...) It's not just you, Serenity. It's ALL the top tier providers he's trying to hurt. Like you, they won't see him because they don't like him trying to manipulate and control them. He's constantly advocating against them, most recently with false tales of "extreme screening" and so on. While that bullshit may work on some of the newbie "hobbyists", those of us who have been around a while know the real score. And that's who you really want for clientele anyway.
SA.
NewalasKan66
05-29-17, 18:16
Here again, Snowman is dragging me through the mud. It's getting really old. Why don't you just confess your undying love for me. Show of hands, how many of you hobbies take that have seen me found it especially difficult to screen with me? Most of the time I only check on a few bits of information. If usernames and reviews and references are legit, I don't need all of the other information. There are a million ways to screen. That's why my site says to share what you are comfortable sharing. I use my instincts and I use them well but it's worth it for me to stay alive.
Also from my website. I am VERY serious about protecting the identities of my clients. It should be obvious why I screen but in case you don't know. 1. I don't want to be attacked or murdered because I stupidly lured some random violent stranger to me without checking to see if he was a killer first. 2. That's it. My safety is not negotiable. When you contact me supply as much information as you you can the first time, such as your name, age, city or town of residence, general appearance, etc. Sensitive info can relayed by phone or by secure email. Please remember to be clear about your perfered method of contact. This should take one or two communications. If you can't provide the.
Information I require please look elsewhere. I rely heavily on provider references so if you have them please provide them. I accept requests for screening through the following third party screening services: P411, Verify Him and Date Check (see the links page). Keep in mind that I need to VERIFY the information given, that can involve a discreet call, email or an I'd. I'm an equal opportunity provider but I will gladly dismiss the rude, shady and dishonest. Time wasters are easily spotted and dismissed. As I said before, I am VERY serious about protecting the identities of my clients and prospective clients. I do not keep a little black book or save sensitive information. I am happy to get to know you by your alias. I have no problem with using your fake name, email or burn phone. That is only AFTER I know what kind of person I'm dealing with. Just be forthcoming from the start and you'll find screening with me safe discreet and painless.I for one had no trouble with Serenity's screening process. It actually made me feel safe knowing she is thinking ahead enough to avoid the major risks in this hobby. She is one of only two providers I feel comfortable enough to invite to my house. I am shocked by the recent trolling against her. In my experience she is one of the only Alaska providers that has integrity.
NewalasKan66
05-29-17, 18:31
Just a heads up. I was misfortunate enough to fall into that age old dumbass situation of 'naive well meaning monger tries to rescue young provider from herself ' scenario with Olivia a few years ago. Got to know enough about her to know you don't want to go there. Certainly not bareback, under any circumstances. She's a long-term iv user, and, although I know I'm dancing on the edge of admin dropping this message by saying anything more. I'd DEFINITELY not go there unprotected.The articles on the desk in this photo look a bit shady. . . .
The articles on the desk in this photo look a bit shady. . . .Look in the background. There's two dudes as well.
Serenitylux907
05-30-17, 02:52
It's not just you, Serenity. It's ALL the top tier providers he's trying to hurt. Like you, they won't see him because they don't like him trying to manipulate and control them. He's constantly advocating against them, most recently with false tales of "extreme screening" and so on. While that bullshit may work on some of the newbie "hobbyists", those of us who have been around a while know the real score. And that's who you really want for clientele anyway.
SA.That's why providers need to stick together so we can warn each other about these creeps. The Problem New Guy is that I'm actually hurting for business because of this sick fuck. I Need new clients and they can't find me. I'm posting ads on other boards and will post another here. But not having backpage is killing. Me,
AkTraveler
05-30-17, 11:47
That's why providers need to stick together so we can warn each other about these creeps. The Problem New Guy is that I'm actually hurting for business because of this sick fuck. I Need new clients and they can't find me. I'm posting ads on other boards and will post another here. But not having backpage is killing. Me,The ad on the other board. TNAboard is well done with specials! Her website is easy to find and navigate. Who really knows what motivates the troll on here, but his posts are largely false.
This lady is unquestionably one of the finest providers in Alaska! A wonderful companion.
JoeSixPack
05-30-17, 15:24
That's why providers need to stick together so we can warn each other about these creeps. The Problem New Guy is that I'm actually hurting for business because of this sick fuck. I Need new clients and they can't find me. I'm posting ads on other boards and will post another here. But not having backpage is killing. Me,You can't put all the blame on Snowman for the downturn. The reason you don't get my business are your rates.
Best of luck to you. .
The ad on the other board. TNAboard is well done with specials! Her website is easy to find and navigate. Who really knows what motivates the troll on here, but his posts are largely false.
This lady is unquestionably one of the finest providers in Alaska! A wonderful companion.I know what motivates him. He became obsessed with one top tier provider, but became unable to afford her services. She declined having an off-book relationship with him, and wouldn't extend "credit", so he began stalking her. Eventually he took many very aggressive steps trying hurt her. Some of that played out on this very board.
Because many of the top tier providers talk to one another, and this guy is now "blacklisted" among them. Which explains his ongoing effort to dissuade fellow mongers from choosing "top tier" providers Chalk it up to sour grapes.
SA.
The reason you don't get my business are your rates.
Best of luck to you..Same here. Just a little steep IMO.
DenaliBlast
05-30-17, 21:26
You can't put all the blame on Snowman for the downturn. The reason you don't get my business are your rates.
Best of luck to you. .You get what you pay for. I know and trust what I'm getting. When I leave Serenity I feel satisfied on so many levels and to me that's what makes her rates worth while. Anyone needing any more information on Serenity Lux PM me.
AkTraveler
05-30-17, 21:53
I know what motivates him. He became obsessed with one top tier provider, but became unable to afford her services. She declined having an off-book relationship with him, and wouldn't extend "credit", so he began stalking her. Eventually he took many very aggressive steps trying hurt her. Some of that played out on this very board.
Because many of the top tier providers talk to one another, and this guy is now "blacklisted" among them. Which explains his ongoing effort to dissuade fellow mongers from choosing "top tier" providers Chalk it up to sour grapes.
SA.Thanks SA, I do know the story. It's just hard to understand the lengths that this person is going to, to hurt someone. There were some really terrible things that were done by this guy. A bit odd too that this guy isn't even instate, yet he's reviewing ladies as though he is.
Understandable if you can't afford a providers rate, but really, move on. This lady's time (I'm forbidden to mention her name on here from an earlier burst of white knightery regarding the attacks on her), for me is well worth the donation. Well worth it.
AkTraveler
05-30-17, 21:55
I know what motivates him. He became obsessed with one top tier provider, but became unable to afford her services. She declined having an off-book relationship with him, and wouldn't extend "credit", so he began stalking her. Eventually he took many very aggressive steps trying hurt her. Some of that played out on this very board.
Because many of the top tier providers talk to one another, and this guy is now "blacklisted" among them. Which explains his ongoing effort to dissuade fellow mongers from choosing "top tier" providers Chalk it up to sour grapes.
SA.Thanks SA, I do know the story quite well. It's just hard to understand the lengths that this person is going to, to hurt someone. There were some really terrible things that were done by this guy. A bit odd too that this guy isn't even instate, yet he's reviewing ladies as though he is.
Understandable if you can't afford a providers rate, but really, move on. This lady's time (I'm forbidden to mention her name on here from an earlier burst of white knightery regarding the attacks on her), for me is well worth the donation. Well worth it.
Alaska Man
05-30-17, 21:57
I will never give my business to serenity or any other provider that charges that much. You get what you pay for sounds good but I do not believe it and even it is true that does not mean they can charge any price they want and expect everyone to pay it, you will price yourself out of many's comfort level and lose business. Sure they are free to set there price and if there are guys stupid enough to pay it then they affirm the old saying, " a fool and his money are soon parted". As far as I am concerned paying that much qualifies for "Stupid shit in Anchorage" and those that pay are part of the problem of over priced providers and contributing to the over priced market here in anchorage. Also I am not comfortable with the screening so not going to do that.
You get what you pay for. I know and trust what I'm getting. When I leave Serenity I feel satisfied on so many levels and to me that's what makes her rates worth while. Anyone needing any more information on Serenity Lux PM me.
Serenitylux907
05-31-17, 01:06
I will never give my business to serenity or any other provider that charges that much. You get what you pay for sounds good but I do not believe it and even it is true that does not mean they can charge any price they want and expect everyone to pay it, you will price yourself out of many's comfort level and lose business. Sure they are free to set there price and if there are guys stupid enough to pay it then they affirm the old saying, " a fool and his money are soon parted". As far as I am concerned paying that much qualifies for "Stupid shit in Anchorage" and those that pay are part of the problem of over priced providers and contributing to the over priced market here in anchorage. Also I am not comfortable with the screening so not going to do that.It's because I want quality clients and because I want to be a high quality not high volume provider. I have my favorite clients too and I treat them well. Believe it or not, I would be the last escort to let you spend your last penny on me. Honesty is priceless and so are the clients that think women are worth more than a price tag. Have fun with your hand or whatever mystery bag you happen upon.
Getting to know me is worth it. My clients come back for a reason and it's not because they're stupid, it's because they are smart consumers.
DenaliBlast
05-31-17, 02:03
I will never give my business to serenity or any other provider that charges that much. You get what you pay for sounds good but I do not believe it and even it is true that does not mean they can charge any price they want and expect everyone to pay it, you will price yourself out of many's comfort level and lose business. Sure they are free to set there price and if there are guys stupid enough to pay it then they affirm the old saying, " a fool and his money are soon parted". As far as I am concerned paying that much qualifies for "Stupid shit in Anchorage" and those that pay are part of the problem of over priced providers and contributing to the over priced market here in anchorage. Also I am not comfortable with the screening so not going to do that.Must have hit a nerve! She's still a better deal than my x wife I'm paying twice as much to her and I'm not even getting laid!
The Tourista
05-31-17, 02:10
That's why providers need to stick together so we can warn each other about these creeps. The Problem New Guy is that I'm actually hurting for business because of this sick fuck. I Need new clients and they can't find me. I'm posting ads on other boards and will post another here. But not having backpage is killing. Me,I hate to chime in on this one, but my econ 112 professor from college is rolling in his grave. I have been a hobbyist off and on up here for years. I have had the pleasure of the company of many, many providers here, including a couple of the top tier gals. I still find 4 3/4 star experiences with gals for $$. I simply won't pay more than $$$ for that extra 1/4 star. You only have to buy on ho-hum (pun absolutely intended) bottle of Bordeaux for $90 to learn that lesson.
I'm sure the company is lovely, but if the market won't bear the price, maybe it's time to re-think.
I hate to chime in on this one, but my econ 112 professor from college is rolling in his grave. I have been a hobbyist off and on up here for years. I have had the pleasure of the company of many, many providers here, including a couple of the top tier gals. I still find 4 3/4 star experiences with gals for $$. I simply won't pay more than $$$ for that extra 1/4 star. You only have to buy on ho-hum (pun absolutely intended) bottle of Bordeaux for $90 to learn that lesson.
I'm sure the company is lovely, but if the market won't bear the price, maybe it's time to re-think."Driven by hunger, a fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on the vine but was unable to, although he leaped with all his strength. As he went away, the fox remarked 'Oh, you aren't even ripe yet! I don't need any sour grapes. ' People who speak disparagingly of things that they cannot attain would do well to apply this story to themselves. " - Phaderus.
SA.
Alaska Man
05-31-17, 14:48
You can be selective in who you choose without pricing yourself out of the reach of many who are just as respectful and safe (quality). Based on the attitude that comes through in your posts here I would avoid dealing you on that point alone. "Have fun with your hand or whatever mystery bag you happen upon" Really? It is not all about how you look or the quality of the service you provide, if you you demonstrate an unattractive personality on this forum then you have alienated some who may be willing to pay your above market prices.
It's because I want quality clients and because I want to be a high quality not high volume provider. I have my favorite clients too and I treat them well. Believe it or not, I would be the last escort to let you spend your last penny on me. Honesty is priceless and so are the clients that think women are worth more than a price tag. Have fun with your hand or whatever mystery bag you happen upon.
Getting to know me is worth it. My clients come back for a reason and it's not because they're stupid, it's because they are smart consumers.
It's because I want quality clients and because I want to be a high quality not high volume provider. I have my favorite clients too and I treat them well. Believe it or not, I would be the last escort to let you spend your last penny on me. Honesty is priceless and so are the clients that think women are worth more than a price tag. Have fun with your hand or whatever mystery bag you happen upon.
Getting to know me is worth it. My clients come back for a reason and it's not because they're stupid, it's because they are smart consumers.I can tell you that the reason there are a number of posters on this board who speak up for Serenity is because of how she treats you. She can be your friend and your vixen. She is honest and trustworthy. That is why her clients return to her time and time again.
The Tourista
05-31-17, 18:12
"Driven by hunger, a fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on the vine but was unable to, although he leaped with all his strength. As he went away, the fox remarked 'Oh, you aren't even ripe yet! I don't need any sour grapes. ' People who speak disparagingly of things that they cannot attain would do well to apply this story to themselves. " - Phaderus.
SA.I'm still not convinced that the Stupid Shit ' thread is a good addition to this site. I am not going to post further on this thread, just adding that my comment was not driven by any malice toward providers who choose to price their services at the upper end of the spectrum. It's not that I cannot 'afford' their services. I choose not to spend my money on them, because I can get what I enjoy for significantly less money. It's not a matter of being incapable, it's a matter of being unwilling.
I drive a Toyota, not a Lexus, by choice.
I think it's a waste of money to fly first class.
Same situation here.
Question: When did being a provider become more important than being a good role model for your offspring?
Answer: When I discovered that TweedleDee and TweedleDum would pay me $400 per hour.
And what respect do hobbyists get for $400? *"Guys! Damn it just screen! You won't convince me that you're stupid office job is more important than my life. Quit wasting my time!
*Copied from Twitter.
- It is not all about how you look or the quality of the service you provide, if you you demonstrate an unattractive personality on this forum then you have alienated some who may be willing to pay your above market prices.Of course, you've never actually been with Serenity, so you really know next to nothing about what she is like in person.
I challenge you to find ANY legitimate review on ANY forum suggesting in ANY manner that she might have an "unattractive personality". And, in case you were unaware, on a different, highly respected international review site. Where providers are rated by clients on a numerical scale. From a total of 18 separate reviews Serenity is the HIGHEST RATED provider in Alaska. Of all time (That superior level of client appreciation didn't happen by accident.
SA.
AkTraveler
05-31-17, 21:08
Question: When did being a provider become more important than being a good role model for your offspring?
Answer: When I discovered that TweedleDee and TweedleDum would pay me $400 per hour.
And what respect do hobbyists get for $400? *"Guys! Damn it just screen! You won't convince me that you're stupid office job is more important than my life. Quit wasting my time!
*Copied from Twitter.Hey Snowman.
AkTraveler
05-31-17, 21:44
We can all just agree to disagree I guess. We're all just lucky to have some great choices here. If the price is too high, perceived attitude too snippy, then move on. No need to sink to the depths of a certain jilted poster on here. Getting to know SL (remember that I'm forbidden to mention her name on here) has indeed been worth it for me. A sweet lady, wonderful company and yeah, she does take good care of her regulars.
Hey Snowman.So that's THREE separate identities this troll is now using? Someone should notify management.
SA.
Yes, I agree, somebody should.
A2
Serenitylux907
05-31-17, 23:30
Question: When did being a provider become more important than being a good role model for your offspring?
Answer: When I discovered that TweedleDee and TweedleDum would pay me $400 per hour.
And what respect do hobbyists get for $400? *"Guys! Damn it just screen! You won't convince me that you're stupid office job is more important than my life. Quit wasting my time!
*Copied from Twitter.Hey, thanks for the free advertising. I didn't actually say those first two lines though.
Question: When did being a provider become more important than being a good role model for your offspring?
Answer: When I discovered that TweedleDee and TweedleDum would pay me $400 per hour.
And what respect do hobbyists get for $400? *"Guys! Damn it just screen! You won't convince me that you're stupid office job is more important than my life. Quit wasting my time!
*Copied from Twitter.How many alias's will you create. Oh and by the way, I'm sure you as a profession monger are a pride to your family as well.
I'm pretty sure you have the wrong sock puppet.
A2
it's not because they're stupid, it's because they are smart consumers.Serenity,
A hallmark of good service is humility. It starts with self awareness, with recognising who and what you are.
Your arrogance is a sure sign that you're in denial. $400? Come on!
Everyone here wishes you the very best. We just want an opportunity to use you at a reasonable price.
Dude, let it go, just let it go, whatever handle you would like to use, just let it go. I'm now officially annoyed by you, the both of you, but I'm not convinced that Fury 907 is you just based on his past posts, but Cry Havoc? Come on man. But don't worry it's not just you, it's the galloping knights on their regal white steeds proudly displaying the shield and colors of the provider in question. Is she worthy of their valor? She might just be, I really don't know, seems like she might be if this man of snow is going to these ends to prove his "point," followed by the knights of the house Lux screaming their cries of her superiority and rightful claim to the rubber throne of best provider in Alaska ever. But I'm serious, shut up, please just shut up.
AkTraveler
06-01-17, 23:42
Dude, let it go, just let it go, whatever handle you would like to use, just let it go. I'm now officially annoyed by you, the both of you, but I'm not convinced that Fury 907 is you just based on his past posts, but Cry Havoc? Come on man. But don't worry it's not just you, it's the galloping knights on their regal white steeds proudly displaying the shield and colors of the provider in question. Is she worthy of their valor? She might just be, I really don't know, seems like she might be if this man of snow is going to these ends to prove his "point," followed by the knights of the house Lux screaming their cries of her superiority and rightful claim to the rubber throne of best provider in Alaska ever. But I'm serious, shut up, please just shut up.Can't say that I disagree with you Prytanis. This kind of attack / counter attack seems to happen with some regularity on most boards. I recall at least three other local well known ladies that endured some BS on here in recent memory. I knew that the crap the poster was putting up about two of them was BS. The comments about the other lady's weight were just fucking mean spirited. This latest round of BS with Snowman / Fury / BCValdez / CryHavoc went way the fuck beyond what most on this board know about. Dude did some nasty, despicable things to S. L. If you don't call BS when you see BS, then what next? Does he resort to something physical? We don't even have to be talking about Snow. It could be any guy who feels the need to attack like this when they don't get their way.
The white knight label? Okay. I'm good with that. I like this lady and I like the other ones that I've seen disparaged on here. I'm a pretty quiet, respectful man but I have a hard time not calling bullshit on bullying. Whether it's in the workplace or in my private life.
But I do agree with you. We should just drop this shit and move on to the fun stuff.
DenaliBlast
06-02-17, 01:50
Hmm, sounds like a stalker to me. If you can't afford her don't call her. Maybe her fee is to keep lowlifes from visiting her and for her safety as well. Yes I will defend her or anyone that has done fair by me. Seems like it can easily be figured out if all these profiles are from the same IP address.
NewalasKan66
06-02-17, 02:11
Look in the background. There's two dudes as well.Good catch. This is like one of those hidden object games. Find 10 illegal or creepy things in this photo. . . .
NewalasKan66
06-02-17, 02:36
I will never give my business to serenity or any other provider that charges that much. You get what you pay for sounds good but I do not believe it and even it is true that does not mean they can charge any price they want and expect everyone to pay it, you will price yourself out of many's comfort level and lose business. Sure they are free to set there price and if there are guys stupid enough to pay it then they affirm the old saying, " a fool and his money are soon parted". As far as I am concerned paying that much qualifies for "Stupid shit in Anchorage" and those that pay are part of the problem of over priced providers and contributing to the over priced market here in anchorage. Also I am not comfortable with the screening so not going to do that.Buying a Range Rover qualifies as 'stupid shit' in my book as well, but there are plenty of people that like them AND have the money to afford them. Choosing a quality provider is no different.
NewalasKan66
06-02-17, 02:41
I'm still not convinced that the Stupid Shit ' thread is a good addition to this site. I am not going to post further on this thread, just adding that my comment was not driven by any malice toward providers who choose to price their services at the upper end of the spectrum. It's not that I cannot 'afford' their services. I choose not to spend my money on them, because I can get what I enjoy for significantly less money. It's not a matter of being incapable, it's a matter of being unwilling.
I drive a Toyota, not a Lexus, by choice.
I think it's a waste of money to fly first class.
Same situation here.Some people like Lexus and some people like first class. I'm sure you don't call the folks sitting in first class having a cocktail as you board the plane suckers do you? Live and let live.
It really cracks me up when a provider says you can trust me. I usually never trust people that say "Trust me. " I especially don't with people who are unable to figure out who to earn a living and support themselves by conventional means or work in professional populated by drug addicts and the mentally ill.
It really cracks me up when a provider says you can trust me. I usually never trust people that say "Trust me. " I especially don't with people who are unable to figure out who to earn a living and support themselves by conventional means or work in professional populated by drug addicts and the mentally ill.And yet, you wax poetic about how you lure them in, and about the psychological tricks you use to impose your will on them. Then, when they will no longer accommodate your dominating ways you use every dirty trick you can muster to try to ruin their lives including negative reviews of those with otherwise stellar reputations, campaigning against their prices you can no longer afford, and even outing their personal information on forums such as this one.
If ANYONE is not to be trusted, it's you. Fury907/ Snowman57/ BCValdez, etc.
SA.
Serenitylux907
06-02-17, 13:44
It really cracks me up when a provider says you can trust me. I usually never trust people that say "Trust me. " I especially don't with people who are unable to figure out who to earn a living and support themselves by conventional means or work in professional populated by drug addicts and the mentally ill.Remember that when you point a finger there are four others pointed at yourself. In case you must know, I had a successful 10 year career working nearly every aspect other than management in Government contracting and hated wearing slacks and sitting behind a desk. And as far as the kind of people this business is populated with, I invite you to visit my twitter page and open up any one of the hundreds of profile pages or websites and the quality women therein. As far as trust goes, your trust issues are your own. You should probably see a professional.
SlopeSunrise
06-02-17, 14:52
I think every provider should immediately start charging 500 $ per hour for their time. That would include any and all activities and interaction between consenting adults. This would also include a creeper / stalker fee, prophylactics fee, etc,.
Some guys will pay it all day long. Some will switch hobbies. One thing will certainly occur; the quality providers will prevail, the others will be kicked to the sidelines. It would be no different than any other business in a free market society. You vote with your dollars. Why pay 50 $ for a filet at Club Paris when Dennys will fry up a piece of sirloin for 10. Because you can, the CHOICE is there, and it certainly is higher quality. You get what you pay for, and if you don't, you pay somewhere / someone else.
Applied to this hobby, if a top tier provider develops attitude, or other traits I can no longer tolerate, I simply move on to find a new one. Done. Let the market decide.
This thread is well titled. Lots of stupid shit here.
First, some context. When Serenity started out she didn't charge $400, she charged $200. No, her game is not twice as good now as it was when she started working as a provider; in fact, it could be argued that her service has suffered since increasing her fees because of the ongoing issue which she only seriously began to address last month.
Taste is subjective and expensive provider service is like anything else expensive. Expectation is as important as raw sensation; this fact is well documented in marketing research. The expectation that she will be better will actually make you experience her as better than a cheaper provider.
I discuss aspects of this topic in my post "Moneyball Your Provider Choice" on the Alaska Board of another forum. What changed in Serenity's case was that, with the help of a buzzbizz hypocrite, she began to market herself as expensive and "top tier".
In choosing between two products or services a consumer will psychologically reference the marketing or packaging in making a decision. Presentation, price, good marketing. It all leads to an expectation of quality and great service. The actual experience at the end is less important as long as it isn't total shite. You rarely see a provider in a social vacuum with no input from "peers" and marketing. A heap of bad buzz will make the provider worse, and a series of positive reviews can sway you the other direction.
Aesop's fable retold: the fox who pays dearly for, and succeeds at acquiring the grapes will rationalize the sacrifice; "the best grapes cost more". Your expectations are the horse; your experience is the cart. Hobbyists get this wrong all the time because Serenity and her cohorts are hard at work in this forum to convince you otherwise (Exhibits A, B & C: Posts #56, #48 & #64).
Believe it or not, I would be the last escort to let you spend your last penny on me. Honesty is priceless and so are the clients that think women are worth more than a price tag. Have fun with your hand or whatever mystery bag you happen upon.
Getting to know me is worth it. My clients come back for a reason and it's not because they're stupid, it's because they are smart consumers.
The ad on the other board. TNAboard is well done with specials! Her website is easy to find and navigate.
This lady is unquestionably one of the finest providers in Alaska! A wonderful companion.
Of course, you've never actually been with Serenity, so you really know next to nothing about what she is like in person.
I challenge you to find ANY legitimate review on ANY forum suggesting in ANY manner that she might have an "unattractive personality". And, in case you were unaware, on a different, highly respected international review site. Where providers are rated by clients on a numerical scale. From a total of 18 separate reviews Serenity is the HIGHEST RATED provider in Alaska. Of all time (That superior level of client appreciation didn't happen by accident.Moneyball exercise. There is a $200 difference between these two providers.
Ethnicity:
Kitty. Native / Caucasian.
Serenity. Native / Caucasian.
Body Type:
Kitty. Slim & curvy.
Serenity. Slim & curvy MILF.
Age:
Kitty. Advertised age (25), apparent age (mid twenties).
Serenity. Real age (39 in 2017).
Offspring:
Kitty. None.
Serenity. Stretched to the max 3 times.
Screening:
Kitty. Send a pic.
Serenity. Display driver's license.
Website:
Kitty. None.
Serenity. Slick, multi-channel marketing effort.
Issues:
Kitty. No visible signs.
Serenity. Recent treatment.
Attitude:
Kitty. Sex kitten.
Serenity. Entitled queen.
Below is a face photo of Kitty, who fully owns the choice she has made and what she does. Serenity is justifiably conflicted and does not use face pics.
NewalasKan66
06-03-17, 02:00
First, some context. When Serenity started out she didn't charge $400, she charged $200. No, her game is not twice as good now as it was when she started working as a provider; in fact, it could be argued that her service has suffered since increasing her fees because of the ongoing issue which she only seriously began to address last month.
Taste is subjective and expensive provider service is like anything else expensive. Expectation is as important as raw sensation; this fact is well documented in marketing research. The expectation that she will be better will actually make you experience her as better than a cheaper provider.
I discuss aspects of this topic in my post "Moneyball Your Provider Choice" on the Alaska Board of another forum. What changed in Serenity's case was that, with the help of a buzzbizz hypocrite, she began to market herself as expensive and "top tier".
In choosing between two products or services a consumer will psychologically reference the marketing or packaging in making a decision. Presentation, price, good marketing. It all leads to an expectation of quality and great service. The actual experience at the end is less important as long as it isn't total shite. You rarely see a provider in a social vacuum with no input from "peers" and marketing. A heap of bad buzz will make the provider worse, and a series of positive reviews can sway you the other direction.
Aesop's fable retold: the fox who pays dearly for, and succeeds at acquiring the grapes will rationalize the sacrifice; "the best grapes cost more". Your expectations are the horse; your experience is the cart. Hobbyists get this wrong all the time because Serenity and her cohorts are hard at work in this forum to convince you otherwise (Exhibits A, B & C: Posts #56, #48 & #64).
Moneyball exercise. There is a $200 difference between these two providers.
Ethnicity:
Kitty. Native / Caucasian.
Serenity. Native / Caucasian.
Body Type:
Kitty. Slim & curvy.
Serenity. Slim & curvy MILF.
Age:
Kitty. Advertised age (25), apparent age (mid twenties).
Serenity. Real age (39 in 2017).
Offspring:
Kitty. None.
Serenity. Stretched to the max 3 times.
Screening:
Kitty. Send a pic.
Serenity. Display driver's license.
Website:
Kitty. None.
Serenity. Slick, multi-channel marketing effort.
Issues:
Kitty. No visible signs.
Serenity. Recent treatment.
Attitude:
Kitty. Sex kitten.
Serenity. Entitled queen.
Below is a face photo of Kitty, who fully owns the choice she has made and what she does. Serenity is justifiably conflicted and does not use face pics.We get it Snowman, you have a beef with Serenity. Why don't you just move on and let her move on, as well? Enough is enough in my book.
Remember that when you point a finger there are four others pointed at yourself. In case you must know, I had a successful 10 year career working nearly every aspect other than management in Government contracting and hated wearing slacks and sitting behind a desk. And as far as the kind of people this business is populated with, I invite you to visit my twitter page and open up any one of the hundreds of profile pages or websites and the quality women therein. As far as trust goes, your trust issues are your own. You should probably see a professional.Only THREE point back. I kinda expected a provider to know a little more about the human anatomy than that.
First, some context. When Serenity started out she didn't charge $400, she charged $200. No, her game is not twice as good now as it was when she started working as a provider; in fact, it could be argued that her service has suffered since increasing her fees because of the ongoing issue which she only seriously began to address last month.
Blah blah blah, etc.
[Deleted by Admin]
All this stuff had to go because if true then it would identify him in reality.
A2
I know I wouldn't even consider doing all the nasty things she had to do just getting you "ready" - for a measly $200. Hell, you should consider $400 a BARGAIN, if you could afford it.
So you can't afford her. Nobody cares. So you have to prey on young native girls fresh out of the village, desperate enough to do whatever they must to survive. Nobody's impressed. You post stories like you're some kind of "stud", when you're nothing more than a pathetic old man with a grudge against women. Your vendetta against Serenity is not justified, simply because you're only half a man (if that) and she doesn't want you. Get over it, and just accept that ANY woman being intimate with you is doing it strictly for the money, no matter how much they pretend they like it. No wonder you have get those young girls drunk first.
SA.
Only THREE point back. I kinda expected a provider to know a little more about the human anatomy than that.Actually, Juan, some people are born with an extra finger, in which case four DO point back. I kinda expect someone with a sense of humor to know that.
SA.
SucculentItzel
06-04-17, 02:03
In this business there's no such thing as "trust" you build "trust" over a period of time, so for me to say you can trust me sounds ludacris. It's called "professionalism" any advertiser with good skills and interaction to her clients can maintain good professionalism people respect that, we are healers we are therapists (as long as your business is CLEAN and SANITARY). This is all humbug. I like hearing good news about this business. All this negativity really makes me question if any of you deserve our services. I have a few clients that I hold dear out of anchorage, but I wouldn't dare test their intelligence by promising things that aren't true.
WHAT? There is a place better than Denny's? Say it isn't so! 😱.
I think every provider should immediately start charging 500 $ per hour for their time. That would include any and all activities and interaction between consenting adults. This would also include a creeper / stalker fee, prophylactics fee, etc,.
Some guys will pay it all day long. Some will switch hobbies. One thing will certainly occur; the quality providers will prevail, the others will be kicked to the sidelines. It would be no different than any other business in a free market society. You vote with your dollars. Why pay 50 $ for a filet at Club Paris when Dennys will fry up a piece of sirloin for 10. Because you can, the CHOICE is there, and it certainly is higher quality. You get what you pay for, and if you don't, you pay somewhere / someone else.
Applied to this hobby, if a top tier provider develops attitude, or other traits I can no longer tolerate, I simply move on to find a new one. Done. Let the market decide.
SlopeSunrise
06-04-17, 15:33
WHAT? There is a place better than Denny's? Say it isn't so! 😱.I think my analogy is sound 😎.
What the heck is wrong with people? If you don't like the price, don't buy the product. It doesn't mean the product is bad; just that you don't want to pay that much for it. If you think Serenity's companionship is worth $400, by all means go for it. If you don't think it's worth that much, don't call her. But to have a fit about the price,. "Well it's good but it's too expensive!" This is commerce industry. Let it go. Now, if you want to recommend the services of another provider I'm all ears. "Good service, good price" is something I'm always open to.
AkTraveler
06-04-17, 19:55
What the heck is wrong with people? If you don't like the price, don't buy the product. It doesn't mean the product is bad; just that you don't want to pay that much for it. If you think Serenity's companionship is worth $400, by all means go for it. If you don't think it's worth that much, don't call her. But to have a fit about the price,. "Well it's good but it's too expensive!" This is commerce industry. Let it go. Now, if you want to recommend the services of another provider I'm all ears. "Good service, good price" is something I'm always open to.And it's really just that fucking simple. No need to run anyone down, stalk them, threaten them or out them. Call someone else. Lots of great options in Anchorage!
What the heck is wrong with people? If you don't like the price, don't buy the product. It doesn't mean the product is bad; just that you don't want to pay that much for it. If you think Serenity's companionship is worth $400, by all means go for it. If you don't think it's worth that much, don't call her. But to have a fit about the price,. "Well it's good but it's too expensive!" This is commerce industry. Let it go. Now, if you want to recommend the services of another provider I'm all ears. "Good service, good price" is something I'm always open to."It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When.
You pay too much, you lose a little money. That's all. When you pay.
Too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you.
Bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The.
Common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a.
Lot. It can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well.
To add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will.
Have enough to pay for something better. " (John Ruskin).
Serenity,
If lowering your fee to $300 meant you could double the number of your regular clients, would you do it? I think there must be at least 10 of us here who are ready, right now, to use you at a discounted rate. That's an additional 3000 dollars in tax free income every week!
PM me.
Serenity,
If lowering your fee to $300 meant you could double the number of your regular clients, would you do it? I think there must be at least 10 of us here who are ready, right now, to use you at a discounted rate. That's an additional 3000 dollars in tax free income every week!
PM me.Serenity,
There are at least 10 of us here who strongly suspect "CryHavoc", "Fury907", "BCValdez", and "Snowman57" are all the same person. And you know who that person is.
SA.
Why are you wasting my ime with this? You know I check shit like this out right?
It's not CryHavoc, it's Cry Havoc, there is a difference. Who the fuck is BCValdez? I find that name nowhere, and I'm not seeing the connection between Snow and Fury. Not saying there isn't one, saying I don't see it.
Who are the 10 others? Seriously who are they, I want to know.
A2
AkTraveler
06-05-17, 18:07
I've known SL since she began in this business. I have a hard time believing that the moderated post from JDenHerder was her. No matter what Fury / BCValdez / etc etc. Says. She is an honest person. I don't believe she's hurting for calls. Don't think she needs or wants the 10 clients Fury offered. Christ! It's getting hard to kee up with this guy.
Good call admin. This is amazingly stoopid shit!
GlacierBear
06-06-17, 02:39
I'm pretty sure I'm just going to IGNORE this forum going forward. I've read it closely since Admin decided to start it (because otherwise the posts would have been deleted). I've not seen anything that positively impacted my world, OR SAID ANOTHER WAY, anything that I'd have missed had Admin simply deleted it according to his / her ordinary standards.
We OUGHT TO BE posting about truly positive or negative experiences in the hobby. All that stuff in the middle might be simply a bad day or a YMMV situation and I'm willing to grant the benefit of the doubt.
So, for this guy, "stupid shit. " is no longer a click-magnet.
GB.
When you say "forum" I assume you mean this thread.
That's kind of why it's here, it puts all this stuff in a place where it can be easily ignored.
A2
BeardedDude
06-06-17, 09:47
Wow! Admin couldn't of named this thread any more accurately.
I'm pretty sure I'm just going to IGNORE this forum going forward. I've read it closely since Admin decided to start it (because otherwise the posts would have been deleted). I've not seen anything that positively impacted my world, OR SAID ANOTHER WAY, anything that I'd have missed had Admin simply deleted it according to his / her ordinary standards.
We OUGHT TO BE posting about truly positive or negative experiences in the hobby. All that stuff in the middle might be simply a bad day or a YMMV situation and I'm willing to grant the benefit of the doubt.
So, for this guy, "stupid shit. " is no longer a click-magnet.
GB.
When you say "forum" I assume you mean this thread.
That's kind of why it's here, it puts all this stuff in a place where it can be easily ignored.
A2I believe there are threads to cover your other concerns. Ie "Ripoff Reports and "General Reports" (for the bad) as well as "Fillintheblank Reviews" (for the good).
For one, I very much appreciate being able to vent about the various bullshit, and ESPECIALLY about one multi-account miscreant who trolls this board on an almost daily basis WITHOUT fearing banishment from a mod for breaking forum CIVILITY rules.
So I get your decision to start ignoring this thread, but I also appreciate that if you are already doing some "back-channel" com with other members, you can pretty easily pick out some valuable truth in this thread from among the low signal-to-noise ratio.
SA.
Serenity,
There are at least 10 of us here who strongly suspect "CryHavoc", "Fury907", "BCValdez", and "Snowman57" are all the same person. And you know who that person is.
SA.
Why are you wasting my ime with this? You know I check shit like this out right?
It's not CryHavoc, it's Cry Havoc, there is a difference. Who the fuck is BCValdez? I find that name nowhere, and I'm not seeing the connection between Snow and Fury. Not saying there isn't one, saying I don't see it.
Who are the 10 others? Seriously who are they, I want to know.
A2A2 Check out post #29 in this thread where Fury207 explains how "he determines their true age". He answered a question of a post that was originally made by Snowman detailing the providers real ages. Therefore, Snowman logged in under the wrong name and answered a question about one of his Snowman posts.
I looked at it, maybe he was answering as well, maybe it is the same guy (I have no evidence of that on the server, but maybe he's an evil genius and can cover his tracks) maybe it is, guys do that.
Here's the solution; put all of the users you think are his on your ignore list and solve the problem. I have 100's of guys on my ignore list.
A2
The Problem New Guy is that I'm actually hurting for business...I Need new clients...Re: Post #4513. Serenity poses as JDenHerder.
This is deceitful and manipulative. Serenity tried to mislead hobbyists in order to increase business. It makes me wonder if some of those outstanding reviews are also fake; however, honesty is not really a quality I expect in a provider and I'm perfectly willing to overlook this breach of trust if she'll just lower her rate.
For one, I very much appreciate being able to vent about the various bullshit, and ESPECIALLY about one multi-account miscreant who trolls this board on an almost daily basis WITHOUT fearing banishment from a mod for breaking forum CIVILITY rules.
So I get your decision to start ignoring this thread, but I also appreciate that if you are already doing some "back-channel" com with other members, you can pretty easily pick out some valuable truth in this thread from among the low signal-to-noise ratio.
SA.Because you were Twakker1700 and now you're just doing the same shit that got that user banned. You act like you work for the NSA or something, siting your "me and 10 other guys" horseshit with your back-channel com's. You don't like this guy, I get it, I don't really like you either because you're a fucking drama queen. Here's the difference, you're on my ignore list with my personal account. Personally I'm here for the pussy, that's all I'm really here for when I'm not getting paid.
What the fuck are you here for? If it's pussy, then put him and all the accounts that you think are his on your ignore list. You haven't done that because the drama is way more important to you than the pussy.
It really is as simple as that, put him on ignore and be done with it, otherwise you're a participant.
A2.
Because you were Twakker1700 and now you're just doing the same shit that got that user banned. You act like you work for the NSA or something, siting your "me and 10 other guys" horseshit with your back-channel com's. You don't like this guy, I get it, I don't really like you either because you're a fucking drama queen. Here's the difference, you're on my ignore list with my personal account. Personally I'm here for the pussy, that's all I'm really here for when I'm not getting paid.
What the fuck are you here for? If it's pussy, then put him and all the accounts that you think are his on your ignore list. You haven't done that because the drama is way more important to you than the pussy.
It really is as simple as that, put him on ignore and be done with it, otherwise you're a participant.
A2.My "me and 10 other guys" statement was a parody response to "CryHavoc's" (et al) claim that he "knows 10 other guys" who would patronize S. L. if she knocked 100 off her donation. I meant it as a joke. I got jokes. That was one of them.
The reality is NOBODY on this type of forum actually KNOWS what 10 other guys would or would not do under ANY circumstances. And we're ALL here for the pussy. I envy you for also getting paid. Assuming you meant you're getting paid to be here. On the other hand, if you're NOT getting paid to be here then I don't envy you that chore at all.
SA.
Ahhhh ok, then that makes sense.
Yeah, I get paid, surprisingly well, to do this. Plus I get to work at home, I'm one seriously lucky fucker.
A2
Actually, Juan, some people are born with an extra finger, in which case four DO point back. I kinda expect someone with a sense of humor to know that.
SA.Well, I DON'T have any extra fingers, so your point is meaningless. I thought you'd be able to understand the simple concept of my post, but I guess not.
Re: Post #4513. Serenity poses as JDenHerder.
This is deceitful and manipulative. Serenity tried to mislead hobbyists in order to increase business. It makes me wonder if some of those outstanding reviews are also fake; however, honesty is not really a quality I expect in a provider and I'm perfectly willing to overlook this breach of trust if she'll just lower her rate.I no longer live in Alaska. I haven't seen Serenity Lux in at least two years, since she was going by Natasha. I lived in south Anchorage for many years. I found her to be one of the sexiest lady's I have ever encountered. We shared some wonderful times in my bath tub and other places. She was always on the top of her game when I saw her. Never had any kind of a issue with her service. I would say that I've only ever seen one other provider In Alaska that I could say that about, that of coarse is Charlie. (The last I knew she has the same rate).
While we did part company on a totally non related issue. I have nothing but the fondest memory's of the time I spent with this lovely lady.
At this point the amount of money in question is really not a issue. She has every right to set her donation where ever she wants. If you don't like it move on and find someone else. At this point I'm quite sure their is no amount of money that you offer her now, to get her to see you.
Get over it and move on.
I have never had the pleasure of meeting you, but from all the stellar reviews you have, it is obvious you are good at what you do. Taking your post at face value, I have some questions about why you would end up hurting for business. I did see you don't want high volume, but it looks like your current volume isn't enough for you. Could it be that you have priced yourself somewhat above the market, enough so that even your regulars can't come back enough to satisfy the goal you have for profits? I could be wrong, but I would think that people in your line of work, would have some favorite clients, some more favored than others. Have you ever thought about offering favorite clients a discount, the more favored the deeper the discount, to see if your price point is too high? Again, I could be wrong, but I would think it would be preferable to increase your income by increasing the number of sessions made up of favored clients. Maybe, for the time being, leave your current pricing for new clients as is, as a new client becomes a favored client, give him a discount to have him returning more often.
I guess a drop in business could be caused by clients being worried about increasing LEO activity, not much you could do about that except move to Nevada. Or run for office. I guess it could also be caused by the bad economy that is being caused by the low price of crude oil. Again not much you can do about that, just move to a place with a better economy.
And on a different kind of note, I don't think identifying a potential client will really protect you, about the only thing that can protect you is you, so that might mean you have a gun, you keep it close by, you know how to use it, and you are willing to use it.
That's why providers need to stick together so we can warn each other about these creeps. The Problem New Guy is that I'm actually hurting for business because of this sick fuck. I Need new clients and they can't find me. I'm posting ads on other boards and will post another here. But not having backpage is killing. Me,
JoeSixPack
06-06-17, 20:49
Because you were Twakker1700 and now you're just doing the same shit that got that user banned. You act like you work for the NSA or something, siting your "me and 10 other guys" horseshit with your back-channel com's. You don't like this guy, I get it, I don't really like you either because you're a fucking drama queen. Here's the difference, you're on my ignore list with my personal account. Personally I'm here for the pussy, that's all I'm really here for when I'm not getting paid.
What the fuck are you here for? If it's pussy, then put him and all the accounts that you think are his on your ignore list. You haven't done that because the drama is way more important to you than the pussy.
It really is as simple as that, put him on ignore and be done with it, otherwise you're a participant.
A2.Epic takedown A2.
SlopeSunrise
06-07-17, 00:03
I've had enough of stupid shit. Some of you know how to contact me outside this board, feel free to do so.
Well, I DON'T have any extra fingers, so your point is meaningless. I thought you'd be able to understand the simple concept of my post, but I guess not.Yeah? Well I thought YOU would understand the simple concept of a joke, but I guess not either.
SA.
Sorry just can't resist to add Magoo's own stoopid shit opinion. Magoo has not or ever will disclose personal info to a provider. References should be fine. This hobby is risky enough as is and these providers, at the end of the day, are dishonest, soulless beasts by definition. The fact that Serenity, who is a fracking saint by description, faked reviews on this very forum proves this point.
Think with your big head, brethren, and for crying out loud be safe!
Magoo.
Lurker1958
06-07-17, 17:20
I no longer live in Alaska. I haven't seen Serenity Lux in at least two years, since she was going by Natasha. I lived in south Anchorage for many years. I found her to be one of the sexiest lady's I have ever encountered. We shared some wonderful times in my bath tub and other places. She was always on the top of her game when I saw her. Never had any kind of a issue with her service. I would say that I've only ever seen one other provider In Alaska that I could say that about, that of coarse is Charlie. (The last I knew she has the same rate).
While we did part company on a totally non related issue. I have nothing but the fondest memory's of the time I spent with this lovely lady.
At this point the amount of money in question is really not a issue. She has every right to set her donation where ever she wants. If you don't like it move on and find someone else. At this point I'm quite sure their is no amount of money that you offer her now, to get her to see you.
Get over it and move on.I was hoping to schedule a dream with Serenity. She looks attractive and gets great reviews.
I went to her website and all was good till I found out about the $400. Donation.
I'll take my money elsewhere.
That is all.
HobbyPilot
06-08-17, 16:39
Anybody else get a good laugh out of provider Math? I just got quoted 80 HH and 170 HR. "OK, I'll take 2 HH sessions back to back".
This is just a general observation from my personal experience. I have seen many different providers that list particular donations. Depending on their current needs, if they feel comfortable with you, the time of day, or other factors, I have found many can be flexible on what they ask.
If you are interested in seeing someone, it costs nothing to ask a provider if they can see you for a particular time for an amount you can afford. All they can say is no.
Anybody else get a good laugh out of provider Math? I just got quoted 80 HH and 170 HR. "OK, I'll take 2 HH sessions back to back".Just today I noticed, on another review forum (that is very popular in the Pacific Northwest), a provider whose donation schedule includes "90 min - 300/2 hours - 600". I was thinking the same thing: "I'd like two 90-minute sessions. Back to back, please. ".
SA.
NewValleyGuy
06-13-17, 02:16
Hey All,
Long timer lurker around, and have followed the page since I moved up here. Enjoyed it for the most part, never posted because I usually only view via my tablet and for some reason the page doesn't like to let me log in from there.
Anyway, to the question. I have been thinking about meeting a particular friend, but I will need to secure the accommodations. Any recommendations on a hotel / motel with fewest questions / issues. Maybe cash based no I'd type. Appreciate the help.
Didn't post in other forums as this was not really a review so not sure where to go.
Thanks.
NVG.
DenaliBlast
06-14-17, 14:09
Hey All,
Long timer lurker around, and have followed the page since I moved up here. Enjoyed it for the most part, never posted because I usually only view via my tablet and for some reason the page doesn't like to let me log in from there.
Anyway, to the question. I have been thinking about meeting a particular friend, but I will need to secure the accommodations. Any recommendations on a hotel / motel with fewest questions / issues. Maybe cash based no I'd type. Appreciate the help.
Didn't post in other forums as this was not really a review so not sure where to go.
Thanks.
NVG.In the far past I did a hot tub rental. Rent for an hour during the week day you get a half hour extra. Pm me for details if you'd like.
I've seen Serenity within the last few weeks at her incall location outside of Anchorage. She was just as awesome as she's ever been. Fun to talk to, down to earth, and puts herself into the visit in such a way that you can't leave unhappy. I don't post often obviously but through this would be a good time to drop a review in. I'd see her again in a heartbeat, and was very thankful I did. Whatever the shit slinging in this thread represents I'm not sure, but for any guy looking to have a visit with her, please by all means do so, she's 100% worth it.
...shit slinging...This is a "fight thread" (see thread starter) meaning pretty much uncensored communication. There's really no "shit" being slung. Only guys expressing their opinion about Serenity's exhorbitant rate and the fact that Admin2 caught her using a second username to post a bogus recommendation.
A friend of mine sent me some pics of her; I'd say she's "OK" for a 40 year old, maybe a 6 on a scale of 10. For $400 I expect an 8 or 9, hot twenty something.
I think a reasonable rate for a good-looking MILF is $300. I'm certain she could double her clientele of safe, respectful gentlemen if she just wasn't so pretentious. A lot of better looking, younger providers charge $200.
As I hinted at in an earlier post, arrogance is not attractive or sexy particularly in someone who is as old as Serenity. I've read some of her posts on Twitter. In one she called on guys to screen and that their "stupid office jobs" were not as important as her safety. Well, I can appreciate her need to screen but why call my job "stupid"? That's arrogant and disrespectful, as is setting up a second username to give yourself a false recommendation.
Tweets are a kind of window into the soul of a person; they really do give a sense of a person's character. Here's another Serenity quote on Twitter: "I'm a pretty cool chick to have around. I'm not going to just stop (seeing hobbyists) to suit some insecure suit who just wants to pin me down. ".
Mature women don't call themselves "pretty cool chicks" or value themselves based on others wanting them around. And she seems to see being in a committed relationship as a trap. It gives you some insight into why at her age, with a litter of three, she doesn't have a partner and is working as a provider. Maybe the reason she asks for $400 is because she is emotionally twenty something and thinks that others also see her as the same.
Call it what you will but I really think Serenity needs a reality check.
AkTraveler
06-18-17, 00:51
I've seen Serenity within the last few weeks at her incall location outside of Anchorage. She was just as awesome as she's ever been. Fun to talk to, down to earth, and puts herself into the visit in such a way that you can't leave unhappy. I don't post often obviously but through this would be a good time to drop a review in. I'd see her again in a heartbeat, and was very thankful I did. Whatever the shit slinging in this thread represents I'm not sure, but for any guy looking to have a visit with her, please by all means do so, she's 100% worth it.+1 She's definitely well worth it. The reason for the shit slinging seemed pretty obvious. Wonderful lady and real.
AkTraveler
06-18-17, 01:42
This is a "fight thread" (see thread starter) meaning pretty much uncensored communication. There's really no "shit" being slung. Only guys expressing their opinion about Serenity's exhorbitant rate and the fact that Admin2 caught her using a second username to post a bogus recommendation.
A friend of mine sent me some pics of her; I'd say she's "OK" for a 40 year old, maybe a 6 on a scale of 10. For $400 I expect an 8 or 9, hot twenty something.
I think a reasonable rate for a good-looking MILF is $300. I'm certain she could double her clientele of safe, respectful gentlemen if she just wasn't so pretentious. A lot of better looking, younger providers charge $200.
As I hinted at in an earlier post, arrogance is not attractive or sexy particularly in someone who is as old as Serenity. I've read some of her posts on Twitter. In one she called on guys to screen and that their "stupid office jobs" were not as important as her safety. Well, I can appreciate her need to screen but why call my job "stupid"? That's arrogant and disrespectful, as is setting up a second username to give yourself a false recommendation.
Tweets are a kind of window into the soul of a person; they really do give a sense of a person's character. Here's another Serenity quote on Twitter: "I'm a pretty cool chick to have around. I'm not going to just stop (seeing hobbyists) to suit some insecure suit who just wants to pin me down. ".
Mature women don't call themselves "pretty cool chicks" or value themselves based on others wanting them around. And she seems to see being in a committed relationship as a trap. It gives you some insight into why at her age, with a litter of three, she doesn't have a partner and is working as a provider. Maybe the reason she asks for $400 is because she is emotionally twenty something and thinks that others also see her as the same.
Call it what you will but I really think Serenity needs a reality check.Whatever Snowman. Just chill dude. She forgives you. She just doesn't want to see you anymore. Move on man. Stupid shit in Anchorage indeed or in your case. Denver. Don't shit on someone's review.
AkTraveler
06-18-17, 01:45
This is a "fight thread" (see thread starter) meaning pretty much uncensored communication. There's really no "shit" being slung. Only guys expressing their opinion about Serenity's exhorbitant rate and the fact that Admin2 caught her using a second username to post a bogus recommendation.
A friend of mine sent me some pics of her; I'd say she's "OK" for a 40 year old, maybe a 6 on a scale of 10. For $400 I expect an 8 or 9, hot twenty something.
I think a reasonable rate for a good-looking MILF is $300. I'm certain she could double her clientele of safe, respectful gentlemen if she just wasn't so pretentious. A lot of better looking, younger providers charge $200.
As I hinted at in an earlier post, arrogance is not attractive or sexy particularly in someone who is as old as Serenity. I've read some of her posts on Twitter. In one she called on guys to screen and that their "stupid office jobs" were not as important as her safety. Well, I can appreciate her need to screen but why call my job "stupid"? That's arrogant and disrespectful, as is setting up a second username to give yourself a false recommendation.
Tweets are a kind of window into the soul of a person; they really do give a sense of a person's character. Here's another Serenity quote on Twitter: "I'm a pretty cool chick to have around. I'm not going to just stop (seeing hobbyists) to suit some insecure suit who just wants to pin me down. ".
Mature women don't call themselves "pretty cool chicks" or value themselves based on others wanting them around. And she seems to see being in a committed relationship as a trap. It gives you some insight into why at her age, with a litter of three, she doesn't have a partner and is working as a provider. Maybe the reason she asks for $400 is because she is emotionally twenty something and thinks that others also see her as the same.
Call it what you will but I really think Serenity needs a reality check.Oh yeah. The second user name. Horse shit. Everyone that knows Serenity knows that's not her style.
AkTraveler
06-18-17, 02:11
This is a "fight thread" (see thread starter) meaning pretty much uncensored communication. There's really no "shit" being slung. Only guys expressing their opinion about Serenity's exhorbitant rate and the fact that Admin2 caught her using a second username to post a bogus recommendation.
A friend of mine sent me some pics of her; I'd say she's "OK" for a 40 year old, maybe a 6 on a scale of 10. For $400 I expect an 8 or 9, hot twenty something.
I think a reasonable rate for a good-looking MILF is $300. I'm certain she could double her clientele of safe, respectful gentlemen if she just wasn't so pretentious. A lot of better looking, younger providers charge $200.
As I hinted at in an earlier post, arrogance is not attractive or sexy particularly in someone who is as old as Serenity. I've read some of her posts on Twitter. In one she called on guys to screen and that their "stupid office jobs" were not as important as her safety. Well, I can appreciate her need to screen but why call my job "stupid"? That's arrogant and disrespectful, as is setting up a second username to give yourself a false recommendation.
Tweets are a kind of window into the soul of a person; they really do give a sense of a person's character. Here's another Serenity quote on Twitter: "I'm a pretty cool chick to have around. I'm not going to just stop (seeing hobbyists) to suit some insecure suit who just wants to pin me down. ".
Mature women don't call themselves "pretty cool chicks" or value themselves based on others wanting them around. And she seems to see being in a committed relationship as a trap. It gives you some insight into why at her age, with a litter of three, she doesn't have a partner and is working as a provider. Maybe the reason she asks for $400 is because she is emotionally twenty something and thinks that others also see her as the same.
Call it what you will but I really think Serenity needs a reality check.Tweets, kind of a window into the soul? Did you really write that? Jesus dude. I've read your bootlicking tweets to Serenity. Unrequited love. Painful.
This is a "fight thread" (see thread starter) meaning pretty much uncensored communication. There's really no "shit" being slung. Only guys expressing their opinion about Serenity's exhorbitant rate and the fact that Admin2 caught her using a second username to post a bogus recommendation.
Tweets are a kind of window into the soul of a person; they really do give a sense of a person's character. Here's another Serenity quote on Twitter: "I'm a pretty cool chick to have around. I'm not going to just stop (seeing hobbyists) to suit some insecure suit who just wants to pin me down. ".
Mature women don't call themselves "pretty cool chicks" or value themselves based on others wanting them around. And she seems to see being in a committed relationship as a trap. It gives you some insight into why at her age, with a litter of three, she doesn't have a partner and is working as a provider. Maybe the reason she asks for $400 is because she is emotionally twenty something and thinks that others also see her as the same.
Call it what you will but I really think Serenity needs a reality check.If you asked for my advice, I'd say don't see her and find someone else that suits your discerning taste. But that's not really the issue here. If her tweets are fair game then these posts of yours say more than a little something about you. I'd guess your that guy who tries to convince people about shit that are matters of personal preference / opinion and never get why they dgaf about what you think.
FrozenNutz
06-18-17, 23:31
Title of this thread is right on. But can you guys please add some reports as well? That's why I check this site. Have not seen any real reports in a while. AMP or Backpage reviews please. Just to help I'll add a report on appropriate thread. 😊.
Render an opinion but provide some details like picture accurate or old or more weight or whatever then move on.
Serenity and Charlie both use real pics, maybe a bit older. I wish price was lower but would happily see either again after seeing both couple years ago. Tried Charlie but she still sets time then flakes out if even returns call / text. Lot of that going around.
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Serenity and Charlie both use real pics, maybe a bit older. (---)I just saw Serenity last week. The bulk of her pics are VERY accurate to what her body looks like RIGHT NOW. Just saying.
SA.
DenverBlue,
It seems like you're confused and upset; it may help your sense of perspective to remember that this is just an internet board.
I don't live in Denver. I've never dated Serenity. I've never tweeted Serenity. I'm neither Snowman nor Fury.
The white knight label? Okay. I'm good with that. It seems your feelings for Serenity are clouding your thinking. You believe that Admin2 didn't catch Serenity using a second username to give herself a bogus recommendation and you believe that I am two people that I'm not. These are classic symptoms of White Knight Syndrome.
White Knights are attracted to "endangered" women, usually providers with emotional and addiction issues or ones who have histories of abuse and trauma. White Knights tend to have an overly idealized and romanticized vision of the women they focus on, and see them as impossibly pure and good and White Knights frequently form a codependent relationship with a provider, enabling the provider in her continued denial.
Continuing your reality check, simply answer the following questions truthfully:
Do you use the username "aktraveler" on TNA where you initiated a thread on the Anchorage Discussions board devoted to bashing USA SEX GUIDE and bashing hobbyists and moderators on USA SEX GUIDE? Is that you, Blue?
Welcome to the Matrix, where the most effective treatment for White Knight Syndrome is The Red Pill.
DenaliBlast
06-19-17, 11:17
Why are folks upset with what a provider charges. If someone is overpriced the market will tell her she is overpriced. My change is kinda tight so I'm kicking back but I'd hold off for who I want and I won't beat her up at what she charges. The one thing I know is when I spend time with Serenity Lux that my money is well spent.
So anyone who is not familiar with her I want you to know she is worth it regardless of what a couple? Of naysayers say. This is DB signing out.
Why are folks upset with what a provider charges. If someone is overpriced the market will tell her she is overpriced. My change is kinda tight so I'm kicking back but I'd hold off for who I want and I won't beat her up at what she charges. The one thing I know is when I spend time with Serenity Lux that my money is well spent.
So anyone who is not familiar with her I want you to know she is worth it regardless of what a couple? Of naysayers say. This is DB signing out.With one exception, EVERYONE who has spent time with Serenity Lux reports that is has been WELL worth it. That sole exception is a guy who is clearly obsessed with her, but because she will no longer see him he works overtime to try to disparage and discredit her. This obsession has led him to create many "alter egos" on this board (and others), hoping to make it look like he's not alone.
There is an old saying in marketing: "There's no such thing as bad publicity. " In Serenity's case, every time this guy uses one of his multiple screen-names to disrespect her she receives a flood of new potential clients eager to learn what the fuss is all about. Meanwhile, BC (Valdez), and all his pseudonyms, with never, EVER achieve his greatest desire. Which is to be with her again. The irony is so thick you could cut it with a rock hammer.
SA.
The quote "There's no such thing as bad publicity" is often associated with P. T. Barnum, the 19th century showman and circus owner. Barnum is even more well known for saying, "There's a sucker born every minute".
Frankly, I wouldn't mind the inconvenience of driving twenty five miles outside of Anchorage to Chugiak to see her. Hell, I don't even object to the screening and showing her my driver's license (however foolish that might seem). I just think $400 is too much for a 40 year old MILF.
There are a lot of guys here who've expressed that Serenity's rate is just too high. She doesn't even pay taxes. What is she thinking?!
As per the flood of new potential clients contacting her, that's definitely a good thing. I think that with dialogue we can get Serenity to bring down her rate. Give her your feedback directly through email and text. Talk to her. She just needs a little nudge.
The quote "There's no such thing as bad publicity" is often associated with P. T. Barnum, the 19th century showman and circus owner. Barnum is even more well known for saying, "There's a sucker born every minute".
Frankly, I wouldn't mind the inconvenience of driving twenty five miles outside of Anchorage to Chugiak to see her. Hell, I don't even object to the screening and showing her my driver's license (however foolish that might seem). I just think $400 is too much for a 40 year old MILF.
There are a lot of guys here who've expressed that Serenity's rate is just too high. She doesn't even pay taxes. What is she thinking?!
As per the flood of new potential clients contacting her, that's definitely a good thing. I think that with dialogue we can get Serenity to bring down her rate. Give her your feedback directly through email and text. Talk to her. She just needs a little nudge.You claim not to be Snowman. If not, you and him certainly have much in common. Your main purpose on this board and most ALL of your posts are dedicated to bashing Serenity and making arguments why people shouldn't see her. Don't you have anything better to do? (Rhetorical question, please don't answer) Just get off it and get a life.
The quote "There's no such thing as bad publicity" is often associated with P. T. Barnum, the 19th century showman and circus owner. Barnum is even more well known for saying, "There's a sucker born every minute".
Frankly, I wouldn't mind the inconvenience of driving twenty five miles outside of Anchorage to Chugiak to see her. Hell, I don't even object to the screening and showing her my driver's license (however foolish that might seem). I just think $400 is too much for a 40 year old MILF.
There are a lot of guys here who've expressed that Serenity's rate is just too high. She doesn't even pay taxes. What is she thinking?!
As per the flood of new potential clients contacting her, that's definitely a good thing. I think that with dialogue we can get Serenity to bring down her rate. Give her your feedback directly through email and text. Talk to her. She just needs a little nudge.Whether Administration here cares or not, those "lots of guys" you're referring to ALL write suspiciously similar to one particular guy, and on OTHER forums where multiple screen-names seems to be more strictly dealt with the provider you are referring to has not had a single post complaining about her rates. You are, quite literally, a lone voice crying out in the wilderness.
As for the interesting source of the quote I posted, congratulations, you apparently know how to use Google.
SA.
Serenitylux907
06-20-17, 07:09
Tweets, kind of a window into the soul? Did you really write that? Jesus dude. I've read your bootlicking tweets to Serenity. Unrequited love. Painful.I keep hearing this whiny voice. It's like a little dog trying to bite my ankle to get attention. I'd kick it but it looks pathetic and my boots just got licked clean.
AkTraveler
06-20-17, 11:56
I keep hearing this whiny voice. It's like a little dog trying to bite my ankle to get attention. I'd kick it but it looks pathetic and my boots just got licked clean.LOL. Looked it up. Bootlicking is a thing!
This has been entertaining but really you guys should spend more time getting laid and less time arguing over a hooker. Aptly named Admin. Carry on then.
I keep hearing this whiny voice. It's like a little dog trying to bite my ankle to get attention. I'd kick it but it looks pathetic and my boots just got licked clean.This the second funniest thing I've read in this thread, the FIRST being A2's epic take down of SANewGuy (aka Twakker1700/ Twakker), see post #102.
Serenity doesn't take any of this stupid shit seriously; why should YOU guys? It's just an internet board!
I read in one of Serenity's recent tweets that she is embracing the "wh $" word. Good for you Serenity! It's courageous of you to BUCK the trend of political correctness and really speak plainly about what you are.
Now let's talk about a DISCOUNT! According to SANewGuy (aka Twakker1700/ Twakker) I've drummed up a lot of new business for you. 😀.
CH.
I keep hearing this whiny voice. It's like a little dog trying to bite my ankle to get attention. I'd kick it but it looks pathetic and my boots just got licked clean.Wow really? Probably not a good idea to get into a p!ssing contest here.
This the second funniest thing I've read in this thread, the FIRST being A2's epic take down of SANewGuy (aka Twakker1700/ Twakker), see post #102.
Serenity doesn't take any of this stupid shit seriously; why should YOU guys? It's just an internet board!
I read in one of Serenity's recent tweets that she is embracing the "wh $" word. Good for you Serenity! It's courageous of you to BUCK the trend of political correctness and really speak plainly about what you are.
Now let's talk about a DISCOUNT! According to SANewGuy (aka Twakker1700/ Twakker) I've drummed up a lot of new business for you. 😀.
CH.Hey BC,
There's a huge difference between you having multiple screen names on ONE FORUM (this one), and me REPLACING a former screen name with a new one. The difference is simple. I have only ONE account and only ONE screen name here, and therefore only claim to express my singular opinion. You have MANY accounts and MANY screen names, and try to fool the other, LEGITIMATE members into believing that your singular opinion is "shared" by many "friends" (all of whom are actually just you under different pseudonyms.
SA.
P.S. : you've been permanently rejected by the woman of your greatest desires. You really should try to get over that.
Tweets, kind of a window into the soul? Did you really write that? Jesus dude. I've read your bootlicking tweets to Serenity. Unrequited love. Painful.I've never tweeted to Serenity but I've been reading some of the tweets from "Blueice57", "snomann" and "M" (aka HungExSailor) particularly those in response to Serenity, which ALL look similarly sycophantic.
Here's what ANYONE can easily discern from reading your tweets Blue: You hate the President of the United States. You like cats and dogs. You bang out a lot of "feel good" tweets to different providers.
On Serenity's website she encourages hobbyists to give her gifts and tips and includes a link to Serenity's "wish list" on Amazon. Serenity tweets that Blueice57 always brings her "amazing gifts" (apart from the +$400 donation). What gifts do you give her Blue? Is that for a SPECIAL service?
CH.
I've never tweeted to Serenity but I've been reading some of the tweets from "Blueice57", "snomann" and "M" (aka HungExSailor) - "SNOMANN"? Jesus, you must think the entire USASG community is stupid. Do you REALLY think spelling your own AKA incorrectly will somehow throw folks off the scent? We all know you're also "Snowman57", "BCValdez", "Fury907", etc. , etc. , etc.
One of Serenity's endearing qualities is her very kind personality and her willingness to take on "basket cases" and nurture them back to health. You're a lovesick emotional cripple who thought he had an actual relationship with her, simply because she would struggle through some truly disgusting tasks to help you get ready for a session. You imagined she somehow wanted to be with you anyway, even though you became financially unable to pay for your nursing-home level sessions, and when you couldn't continue to pay her you were devastated that she refused to see you for free. So now you spend most of your posts attacking her, and trying to hurt her business. Which makes you one classless sick son of cur. That about sum it up?
Yup. That about sums it up.
SA.
stupidI wouldn't say you're stupid, but would it be too much to ask you to think before you post. Obviously Serenity would determine that I'm not anyone she's seen before when she screens. I'm just waiting for a DISCOUNT!128512;.
The Red Pill can be harsh but sometimes it's the only treatment for severe White Knight Syndrome.
You are deluding yourself. You believe that I am someone that I'm not, so that you can continue idealizing a provider who has been shown to be deceitful and manipulative.
NewalasKan66
06-23-17, 01:49
Why are folks upset with what a provider charges. If someone is overpriced the market will tell her she is overpriced. My change is kinda tight so I'm kicking back but I'd hold off for who I want and I won't beat her up at what she charges. The one thing I know is when I spend time with Serenity Lux that my money is well spent.
So anyone who is not familiar with her I want you to know she is worth it regardless of what a couple? Of naysayers say. This is DB signing out.Here, here!! Agree 100 percent!
I wouldn't say you're stupid, but would it be too much to ask you to think before you post. Obviously Serenity would determine that I'm not anyone she's seen before when she screens. I'm just waiting for a DISCOUNT!128512;.
The Red Pill can be harsh but sometimes it's the only treatment for severe White Knight Syndrome.
You are deluding yourself. You believe that I am someone that I'm not, so that you can continue idealizing a provider who has been shown to be deceitful and manipulative.You ("CryHavoc") have 10 posts as of this writing. Your initial post, on or about the day you became a member, was 100% anti-Serenity. EVERY POST since has been 100% anti-Serenity. You've posted about nothing else. The entire existence of your "CryHavoc" identity IS and HAS BEEN about criticizing and attacking Serenity Lux.
It's obvious to anyone who looks even slightly below the surface that you're "BCValdez", and several other pseudonyms, all of whom lead back to one sick, twisted, emotional CRIPPLE who can't get past his bizarre obsession with a popular provider. Who, by the way, is repulsed by the very thought of you. I'd tell you to "be a man" and walk away from the whole thing, but we both know you're only HALF a man (if that) and you CAN'T walk away.
SA.
What I seek is intimacy, passion, and MUTUAL pleasure.Hobbyists and providers bring to their encounters different agendas and while it's true that their interests can overlap to some degree, it is also true that for the most part they do not.
Hobbyists want what they want. Period. Providers' motives may range from paying for college, paying the rent, paying for food for their offspring to paying for their vice. Their principle motive is never pleasure. The greatest pleasure providers experience is when they receive more than expected in the form of a big tip.
This is not to say that providers can't and don't experience sexual pleasure with hobbyists but they usually don't (see The Honest Escorts group on Twitter). It's worth remembering the natural order of things, how they are and how they've always been. The hobby has always consisted overwhelmingly of men hobbyists patronizing female providers, not the other way around.
When hobbyists conflate the two different agendas they succumb to a fallacy and seek to ingratiate themselves in a way that makes them vulnerable to manipulation on the part of the provider. It's tricky because women are often deft at making it appear that the pleasure is mutual. Think of that scene from When Harry Met Sally in which Meg Ryan, at a moment's notice, simulates a convincing, mind-blowing orgasm, all while seated at a busy delicatessen on a New York City street.
This illusion is very powerful. Many providers are skilled at stroking a hobbyist's ego in precisely this way and a hobbyist may be turned into a humiliated spectacle of himself. Cinematic flash: the scene from Original Sin in which Angelina Jolie plays a provider in 19th century Havana, twisting the psychological knife into a deluded older hobbyist played by Gregory Itzin.
Some providers are so audacious as to boast of their abilities to manipulate their clientele: "I can throw a ball for a dog and have her return it and throw a ball for a cat and have him return it. "* We all know at least one of these types; however, hobbyists with more money than sense will often indulge such treatment by reasoning that they belong to "a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" (white knight syndrome) but when a sharp hobbyist with his eyes wide open is implored by a provider to be a "gentleman", he reminds himself that the "lady" is in fact a tramp.
Havoc!
AkTraveler
06-23-17, 20:48
You ("CryHavoc") have 10 posts as of this writing. Your initial post, on or about the day you became a member, was 100% anti-Serenity. EVERY POST since has been 100% anti-Serenity. You've posted about nothing else. The entire existence of your "CryHavoc" identity IS and HAS BEEN about criticizing and attacking Serenity Lux.
It's obvious to anyone who looks even slightly below the surface that you're "BCValdez", and several other pseudonyms, all of whom lead back to one sick, twisted, emotional CRIPPLE who can't get past his bizarre obsession with a popular provider. Who, by the way, is repulsed by the very thought of you. I'd tell you to "be a man" and walk away from the whole thing, but we both know you're only HALF a man (if that) and you CAN'T walk away.
SA.Jesus SA! Didn't you take your red pill? I took mine, I'm so fuckin chill now my mama wouldn't recognize me! I think it's even restoring some of the hair on my tiny bald spot!
EVERY POST since has been 100% anti100% anti-price gouging, 100% anti-false reviews, 100% anti-White Knight Syndrome.
If BlueIce57 (aka Aktraveler) can set up a thread on TNA on the Alaska Discussions board devoted to bashing hobbyists and moderators on USA SEX GUIDE, we can certainly fight back.
This is a fight thread (see thread starter), and I do enjoy a good fight!
Havoc!
100% anti-price gouging, 100% anti-false reviews, 100% anti-White Knight Syndrome.
If BlueIce57 (aka Aktraveler) can set up a thread on TNA on the Alaska Discussions board devoted to bashing hobbyists and moderators on USA SEX GUIDE, we can certainly fight back.
This is a fight thread (see thread starter), and I do enjoy a good fight!
Havoc!The only thing you've been "anti" about is Serenity Lux. The hinting and innuendo has just been bullshit window dressing to "soften" the obviousness of your anti-Serenity vendetta.
As for "enjoying a good fight", you can't even stand up to a loud argument. You should be careful with the "fight" talk, however. Even a small child could easily lock your wheels and than slap the shit out of you from behind.
SA.
One of Serenity's endearing qualities is her very kind personality and her willingness to take on "basket cases" and nurture them back to health.By emptying their bank accounts.
Maybe we should ask HungExSailor (aka M on Twitter) why he tweeted to Serenity, shortly before she left for "rehab", "STOP LYING!
This is not something any hobbyist wants to find himself saying to a provider, mostly because he should never believe or trust her in the first place.
Keep your powder dry guys.
Havoc!
Serenitylux907
06-26-17, 22:02
By emptying their bank accounts.
Maybe we should ask HungExSailor (aka M on Twitter) why he tweeted to Serenity, shortly before she left for "rehab", "STOP LYING!
This is not something any hobbyist wants to find himself saying to a provider, mostly because he should never believe or trust her in the first place.
Keep your powder dry guys.
Havoc!Has it gotten so bad? Has your insane vendetta gotten to the point where it's not working on the target of your so called turmoil that you have to seek elsewhere to fulfill your sick meaningless poking and prodding? You have a need to go after others because it's not working on me anymore? How is your rally working? Are you gaining the momentum that you sought? You aren't poking anyone except yourself. I think you should seek counseling.
"One of Serenity's endearing qualities is her very kind personality and her willingness to take on "basket cases" and nurture them back to health. You're a lovesick emotional cripple who thought he had an actual relationship with her, simply because she would struggle through some truly disgusting tasks to help you get ready for a session. You imagined she somehow wanted to be with you anyway, even though you became financially unable to pay for your nursing-home level sessions, and when you couldn't continue to pay her you were devastated that she refused to see you for free.What else has Serenity told you about her clients?
What else has Serenity told you about her clients?You mean, "What else has Serenity told me about YOU, BC (Valdez)?
Serenity hasn't told me ANYTHING about you. YOU told me about you. With your Facebook posts, your tweets, and your massive "treatises" on this and other forums. Remember when you said "do your research"? Well I've followed that advice, but I've done my research on YOU, and it's turned up a whole lot more than you might imagine.
SA.
DenaliBlast
06-28-17, 14:20
So it looks to me like Snowman, Crybaby, fury, and whoever else he pretends to be gets denied and he wines and tries to tear them down. Itzel was first and he trashed her now he's trying to trash Serenity who has a hoard of supporters. I am not ashamed to say that I am one of those. It's pretty sad that you sir (Singular not plural) are so pathetic that you have to try to tear someone down to feel in charge. These providers has to put up with a lot of shit by their clients. They do things to leave them happy and want to come back to see them. Maybe that's why you are so negative towards them. They won't have you back. Just leave it alone guy go find someone that will bend to your needs and enjoy it. Maybe backing away will give you an in. I could go on but I'll leave it here.
For those who have not seen Serenity Lux she's worth her asking price and more. Pm me if I can share something with you. DB signing out.
I have to say Serenities fans are doing her more harm than good. At one time I was interested in seeing her, but now I'm going nowhere near. People trying to "stand up" for her come off creepier then her stalkers, albeit only by a little.
Serenitylux907
06-28-17, 17:14
I'm just trying to be genuinely caring and to give this as a service. You can all fight umongst yourselves but what I have to give will stay the same. We are all human. Are you human?
I have to say Serenities fans are doing her more harm than good. At one time I was interested in seeing her, but now I'm going nowhere near. People trying to "stand up" for her come off creepier then her stalkers, albeit only by a little.Your posts and use of language sound quite familiar. Another "new" poster joining the anti-serenity crowd? I think not. I see nothing "creepy" about defending a woman who has been nothing but honest and giving to er clients.
In fact, in my experience, women in their 30's and 40's (I. E. Serenity, KeriDoll, etc.) have always turned out to be the best, most enthusiastic and skilled lovers.Then you probably have never had an 18 year old Costa Rican 8 or 9 suck, swallow then beg you to take her to the Greek isles.
But wait! You don't have to go to Costa Rica where such an experience will only set you back $50 (provided you speak some basic Spanish). Right here in Anchorage there's top notch, drop-dead beautiful talent. Taylor will help the inexperienced understand the meaning of PERFECTION and, in comparison with Serenity, the meaning of pretension. Taylor is a 23 year old 9/10, charges $400/ hour and even does half hour sessions for $200.
Reality check.
Havoc!
The Tourista
06-29-17, 00:06
What the hell is wrong with you people?
Ever since this stupid shit thread started, the number of reports on providers has dropped by way more than half.
Really, this site is about providing information exchange between hobbyists to facilitate better experiences for those of us who chose to spend our time and money that way.
Just fucking drop the Serenity this Serenity that shit, and get on with your lives.
This is a serious cry from the field. Close this damn thread. It is ruining this damn site.
I'm just trying to be genuinely caring and to give this as a service. You can all fight umongst yourselves but what I have to give will stay the same. We are all human. Are you human?You are not human.
What the hell is wrong with you people?
Ever since this stupid shit thread started, the number of reports on providers has dropped by way more than half.
Really, this site is about providing information exchange between hobbyists to facilitate better experiences for those of us who chose to spend our time and money that way.
Just fucking drop the Serenity this Serenity that shit, and get on with your lives.
This is a serious cry from the field. Close this damn thread. It is ruining this damn site.And yet YOUR last four or five posts have ALL been to this thread. Hypocrite much?
No one is stopping you or anyone else from posting to all the other threads available, so maybe frequent THEM instead of this one. Certainly makes more sense than whining within the very thread you wish didn't exist.
The real thing ruining this site is the many alter-egos of BC (Valdez) - hell, easily HALF the recent posts on the entire site have been from that ONE guy, thinly disguised by his plethora of pseudonyms (with the number growing almost daily). He's managed to pretty much take over the site, apparently with the blessings of admin. Complain about THAT.
SA.
A couple of conclusions I've drawn from doing a deep dive into the tweets of Serenity, Blueice57, M (aka HungExSailor) and snomann.
1. The extensive screening Serenity does seems to be not just about her safety, it's about finding the right 'victim / client'. SANewGuy (aka Twakker1700/ Twakker) refers to these victim / clients as "basket cases" in post #139 and says that Serenity specializes in endearing herself to these poor guys, perhaps in a type of romance scam (many of the tweets from her clients are quite obsequious and Itzel insinuates in post #87 that Serenity is "promising things that aren't true".) Serenity tweets: "Wonderfully humble men with real substance come in every shape and form. I choose them over common asshat tools with a six pack and tans. " It's woth noting that Serenity has enjoyed all-expenses-covered trips to Hawaii, Las Vegas and Costa Rica with her "wonderfully humble men".
2. If the price is right, BB services are available. On Serenity's website she encourages hobbyists to give her gifts and tips and includes a link to Serenity's "wish list" on Amazon. She states that "Clients that gift and tip see my generosity in return. " M (HungExSailor) tweets to Serenity that: "I did my part for the safety of my provider and myself. I was tested for STD's and HIV last week. ".
Havoc!
blah blah blah... I'm an emotional cripple and crybaby who got rejected by a provider when I ran out of money and she finally got tired of changing my diaper, so now i've devoted my life to attacking her in any and every classless chickenshit way I can... Blah blah blahFixed It For You, BC (Valdez).
AKwankerman
06-30-17, 03:23
Fixed It For You, BC (Valdez).To the three of you:
New subject! Please this is a boring bunch of trite that has been perpetuated far too long. This includes you too serenity.
Sanegirl and crybaby, I can't tell the difference between you two and don't care to either. You guys should meet up and talk out your man crush in person or make it a car date somewhere secluded. I know a great spot just ask.
Serenity will never know me as I can see her loose lips do not seem to be in line with my expectations of discretion.
No offense but we need a new subject to fight about. How about how bad starriders' pussy used to stink?
SANewGuy,
I can't force you take The Red Pill.
You have to be willing to relinquish the lies you're telling yourself: the absurdity of seeking "mutual pleasure" with someone who just wants your money, the delusion about me being the handicapped person you describe in your posts, the denial of Serenity's deceit and manipulation.
Once you wake up and start to implement a sexual marketplace strategy based on a clear understanding of The Matrix, you'll never want to sleepwalk through life again.
Havoc!
AkTraveler
06-30-17, 17:46
There's some stupid shit indeed that's been recently posted here. I do support Serenity, have known her for some time and can't believe some of the comments from those that haven't even met her. Not human? Really?
Done with this thread.
SANewGuy,
I can't force you take The Red Pill.
You have to be willing to relinquish the lies you're telling yourself: the absurdity of seeking "mutual pleasure" with someone who just wants your money, the delusion about me being the handicapped person you describe in your posts, the denial of Serenity's deceit and manipulation.
Once you wake up and start to implement a sexual marketplace strategy based on a clear understanding of The Matrix, you'll never want to sleepwalk through life again.
Havoc!1) You're an idiot if you think a provider doesn't get pleasure out of receiving money. Of course, you're still an idiot even it that's not what you think.
2) It is quite clear to anyone who's been paying attention that "CryHavoc" is also "Snowman57" who is also "Fury907" who is also BC (Valdez). I'm sure I left a few out, but those 4 are pretty indisputable, regardless of your use of multiple and / or proxy IP addresses. There is no doubt you are about as handicapped as they come, though perhaps even more mentally than physically.
3) AS far as I know, Serenity has never tried to deceive or manipulate me. I take that back. She DID actually manipulate me (physically) pretty damn good. Of course, that's a pleasure you'll never know again, Brain.
SA.
Serenity,
I am neither a troll nor the disabled client of your nightmares.
Trolls get off on offending, insulting and hurting others. Often what they write is no more than vulgar graffiti.
What I like is a vigorous exchange of ideas. I enjoy participating in a debate that hopefully stimulates some critical thinking. Some of the ideas I've introduced into this thread are expressed in questions such as:
Do providers make good role models for their off-spring?
How much is too much to pay for a 40 year old MILF?
What is White Knight Syndrome?
Is there such a thing as 'mutual sexual pleasure' with a provider?
Who do providers target for 'love scams'?
Do fake reviews matter?
What is The Red Pill?
I think the two most important take-away for you are: don't use other usernames to give yourself bogus recommendations and lower your rate. If you just lower your rate to $300 I'm certain that you'll receive a plethora of inquiries from safe, respectful hobbyists who would be happy to take advantage of your services.
Havoc!
Trolls get off on offending, insulting and hurting others. And you are not trying to hurt anyone?
Do providers make good role models for their off-spring?
Maybe not.
How much is too much to pay for a 40 year old MILF?
Whatever I want to pay. I'm the one who decides that! NOT YOU!
What is White Knight Syndrome?
Don't know, I'm not one.
Is there such a thing as 'mutual sexual pleasure' with a provider?
YES there is! If you can't satisfy her, you are not much of a customer.
Who do providers target for 'love scams'?
Idiots like you.
Do fake reviews matter?
If its a known fake, what does it matter?
What is The Red Pill?
Don't know, I don't need any pills.
Serenity,
Trolls get off on offending, insulting and hurting others.
Do providers make good role models for their off-spring?
How much is too much to pay for a 40 year old MILF?
What is White Knight Syndrome?
"Is there such a thing as 'mutual sexual pleasure' with a provider?
There was a provider some years ago who's name I can't recall. She was a 5 on the Vegas scale (which made her an 8 on the Anchorage Scale) who provided a GFE for $100. As I was tipping her I commented "$100 isn't very much. She said simply, I'm not in it for the money.
That's the rare exception. Almost all providers are in it for the money. And can you blame them. Let's face it, we just aren't all that attractive.
"Is there such a thing as 'mutual sexual pleasure' with a provider?
There was a provider some years ago who's name I can't recall. She was a 5 on the Vegas scale (which made her an 8 on the Anchorage Scale) who provided a GFE for $100. As I was tipping her I commented "$100 isn't very much. She said simply, I'm not in it for the money.
That's the rare exception. Almost all providers are in it for the money. And can you blame them. Let's face it, we just aren't all that attractive.Yes, I would say one out of ten, but in it for the money primarily with pleasure as a fringe benefit.
"Is there such a thing as 'mutual sexual pleasure' with a provider?
There was a provider some years ago who's name I can't recall. She was a 5 on the Vegas scale (which made her an 8 on the Anchorage Scale) who provided a GFE for $100. As I was tipping her I commented "$100 isn't very much. She said simply, I'm not in it for the money.
That's the rare exception. Almost all providers are in it for the money. And can you blame them. Let's face it, we just aren't all that attractive.I had a similar experience with a provider who actually, post coitus, refused to accept my donation, to say nothing of a tip. Hard to believe, right? This occurrence was once in a lifetime of seeing perhaps a hundred or more providers. Turns out we had a pretty engaging conversation beforehand and found that we had similar tastes in literature, so there was a genuine connection there.
I love reading The Honest Escorts group on Twitter. Those girls really tell it like it is and they even regularly poll their members on subjects just like this. The last one I read suggested that only 10% of girls "enjoy sex" with their clients and an even smaller percentage ever have an orgasm.
There are rumors in Anchorage of a high risk taking 'unicorn' of the type that protagonized a certain movie by director Lars von Trier but I haven't dated her; I've certainly been tempted though. Her ad is currently live on BP.
Havoc!
I had a similar experience with a provider who actually, post coitus, refused to accept my donation -!No doubt out of pity for you decrepit health and disability issues.
SA.
I've been receiving lots of pms inquiring about the rates for the providers that JustARegular reported on. I haven't had the pleasure of dating Tifani but as concerns the others, well, JustARegular gave Alex the best review of them all and she advertises her donation as $120/ hour. That's what a hobbyist should be shooting for with ALL of these mature women.
By the way, Serenity Lux also falls into this category of older MILF with substance abuse issues. I've even enjoyed $40 BBBJCIM with Ashley, Cora / Cherish, and Stef / Cindy. Kelsey, Ginger and Serenity will ask for way too much; it's up to you to negotiate that down into the reasonable zone. Kelsey has had some piss poor reviews lately. Ginger is literally feeding, clothing, sheltering her loser boyfriend and Serenity has been on a binge recently. It shouldn't be difficult to get the price you want in person. If they see cash in your hand, it's very unlikely that they'll walk away from that.
DenaliBlast
07-23-17, 02:20
I've been receiving lots of pms inquiring about the rates for the providers that JustARegular reported on. I haven't had the pleasure of dating Tifani but as concerns the others, well, JustARegular gave Alex the best review of them all and she advertises her donation as $120/ hour. That's what a hobbyist should be shooting for with ALL of these mature women.
By the way, Serenity Lux also falls into this category of older MILF with substance abuse issues. I've even enjoyed $40 BBBJCIM with Ashley, Cora / Cherish, and Stef / Cindy. Kelsey, Ginger and Serenity will ask for way too much; it's up to you to negotiate that down into the reasonable zone. Kelsey has had some piss poor reviews lately. Ginger is literally feeding, clothing, sheltering her loser boyfriend and Serenity has been on a binge recently. It shouldn't be difficult to get the price you want in person. If they see cash in your hand, it's very unlikely that they'll walk away from that.Why should a provider adjust prices if they are getting what they ask and keeping trolls like you away? Dude get over it. These ladies have all spurned you I bet so you trash them in a way that you think makes you makes you look intelligent. If people are sending you a pm then they are getting bad information.
Why should a provider adjust prices if they are getting what they ask and keeping trolls like you away? Dude get over it. These ladies have all spurned you I bet so you trash them in a way that you think makes you makes you look intelligent. If people are sending you a pm then they are getting bad information.A guy enters a casino in Vegas and walks up to a beautiful woman. He asks her if she would have sex with him for $10,000.
She thinks about it and says yes, she would.
He then asks her if she would have sex with him for $100.
Disgusted, she declares, "What kind of woman do you think I am?
He replies, "We've already established that. Now I'm just negotiating price."
Er, I don't know your background but positional bargaining is a regular occurrence in many areas of commerce, ESPECIALLY transactions which are off-the-books or not subject to the scrutiny of the tax man. Most providers are like car salesmen. They start with a ridiculous opening position because the know that the adage is true: there's a sucker born every minute.
If a provider's hourly fee (or the pro rata equivalent) is more than $300, I always negotiate, unless the girl is a 9/10, you know, a hot 20 something model. I dare say that if you don't bargain you're not much of a hobbyist, or at least one with very limited experience.
AkTraveler
07-24-17, 17:21
A guy enters a casino in Vegas and walks up to a beautiful woman. He asks her if she would have sex with him for $10,000.
She thinks about it and says yes, she would.
He then asks her if she would have sex with him for $100.
Disgusted, she declares, "What kind of woman do you think I am?
He replies, "We've already established that. Now I'm just negotiating price."
Er, I don't know your background but positional bargaining is a regular occurrence in many areas of commerce, ESPECIALLY transactions which are off-the-books or not subject to the scrutiny of the tax man. Most providers are like car salesmen. They start with a ridiculous opening position because the know that the adage is true: there's a sucker born every minute.
If a provider's hourly fee (or the pro rata equivalent) is more than $300, I always negotiate, unless the girl is a 9/10, you know, a hot 20 something model. I dare say that if you don't bargain you're not much of a hobbyist, or at least one with very limited experience.Not everyone possesses your sophistication or savoir faire snoman / cryhavoc. The consummate wheeler dealer. When the ladies see you rolling up, they throw their hands up in surrender.
Why should a provider adjust prices...I don't know if you saw Cora's ad (http://anchorage.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/please-help-2-45pm/5690403) on BP today. It may have been removed by the time this is posted but the ad read as follows:
"Please Help!!
I was robbed and now my rent is over due at my hotel room I have an hour to come up with 200 please help me I promise you won't 907 regret it. I'm 521 offering multipop all doors open 4471 for an hour".
This is part of the reason why providers adjust their prices. Many of these older milfs with substance abuse issues (Cora, Kelsey, Ginger, Serenity Lux, etc.) are continually in crisis and are looking to be 'rescued'. I've gotten awesome $40 bbbjcims from Cora. And she'll open her ass when she instructed to. With firm negotiation you can basically get whatever you want for a very reasonable cost.
In the ad she's asking for $200 but I've paid $120 for a complete service. She's not young and beautiful but there's something quite sensual and exciting about a girl who's desperate and willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done. I highly recommend taking advantage these type of specials.
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If a provider's hourly fee (or the pro rata equivalent) is more than $300, I always negotiate, unless the girl is a 9/10, you know, a hot 20 something model. I dare say that if you don't bargain you're not much of a hobbyist, or at least one with very limited experience.I can buy into the stories about your practice of seeking out desperate, naive young native girls you can ply with alcohol and have your way with. And I can REALLY see you finding some desperate down-and-out junkie whose circumstances allow you to low-ball her into submitting to the disgusting experience that must be you.
But I have a hard time imagining a "hot 20 something model" being willing to help muscle you out of your wheelchair, deal with your adult diaper, inject your dead dick with medicine, and then suffer though your clumsy attempts at "romance" for ANY price. Just doesn't seem like something you'd really have any first-hand experience with.
SA.
But I have a hard time imagining a "hot 20 something model" being willing to help muscle you out of your wheelchair, deal with your adult diaper, inject your dead dick with medicine, and then suffer though your clumsy attempts at "romance" for ANY price. Just doesn't seem like something you'd really have any first-hand experience with.I'm not the disabled guy of your paranoid delusions and I do suggest every hobbyist try a hot 20 something model type at least once. Charlie, Davina and Taylor are my ATFs and they could easily grace the cover of a magazine. All three are truly beautiful 9/10's!
I'm not the disabled guy of your paranoid delusions - Yeah, keep pushing that false narrative, Brain. You're not fooling anyone BC (Valdez).
SA.
But I have a hard time imagining a "hot 20 something model" being willing to help muscle you out of your wheelchair, deal with your adult diaper, inject your dead dick with medicine, and then suffer though your clumsy attempts at "romance" for ANY price. Just doesn't seem like something you'd really have any first-hand experience with.The details of your comments about the person you mistakenly believe me to be can only have been shared with you by Serenity. Your comments reveal an astonishing lack of discretion. Previously I would not have hesitated to give her my real name to screen me but I can now see that it wouldn't be a smart thing to do. In fact, I would even go so far as to say that Serenity is a danger to any hobbyist looking to preserve his privacy.
This really warrants decisive action. Loose lips sink ships.
Havoc!
The details of your comments about the person you mistakenly believe me to be can only have been shared with you by Serenity. Your comments reveal an astonishing lack of discretion. Previously I would not have hesitated to give her my real name to screen me but I can now see that it wouldn't be a smart thing to do. In fact, I would even go so far as to say that Serenity is a danger to any hobbyist looking to preserve his privacy.
This really warrants decisive action. Loose lips sink ships.
Havoc!You know, Brain, the problem with lying is that you constantly have to stay "in character", AND remember all the lies you told. You claim you're NOT also Snowman57, Fury907, and BC (Valdez), but your accusations in this post can ONLY make sense if you're referring to details regarding YOURSELF. Otherwise, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT PERSONAL DETAILS YOUR ALTER-EGOS HAVE REVEALED, AND WHOM THEY'VE REVEALED THEM TO? If you're not those other guys, how could you possibly know who would have known such personal details about you?
In fact, Serenity has never told me ANYTHING about you EVER. I know who you are through your own various slip ups (like this one), and through your Facebook page. Not to mention the myriad of personal information and history available about you online. And, as it turns out, the only loose lips threatening to sink YOUR ship are your own.
The real bottom line is that EVERYONE (except your own multiple personalities) is sick and tired of your incessant ongoing vendetta against providers who've rejected you. If you weren't constantly attacking them maybe some of us would find it much easier to give you only the attention you deserve. Which is to say NONE.
SA.
HOW WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT PERSONAL DETAILS YOUR ALTER-EGOS HAVE REVEALED, AND WHOM THEY'VE REVEALED THEM TO?Your commentary is about as relevant as me saying that you're blue skinned and 10 feet tall.
I don't know who you are and you clearly have no idea who I am.
Your posts (#139, #176) make it plain that Serenity has shared info with you about a client of hers, or you have fabricated a very elaborate lie. Either way, my alluding to YOUR description of the client that you mistakenly believe is me is not proof that I'm your boogeyman. Such is the extent of your delusion that even if I offered you proof you would in all likelihood deny its veracity; I've already told you that if I screened with Serenity it would be obvious that I've never dated her.
It's clear enough to at least a couple of others who have posted about the lack of discretion, that Serenity appears to talk to you about her clients and the fact that you would make that gossip public on an internet board shows incredibly poor judgement.
You're doing a disservice to hobbyists and you're making a fool of yourself.
Havoc!
You two are starting to bore me.
A2
You two are starting to bore me.
A2I understand. Boring is bad. And I feel pretty sure I've made my point that "CryHavoc" is just another pseudonym for the loser we know is grinding an ax due to being rejected by a particular provider (or providerS). In fact, virtually ALL of his posts have been devoted to that cause.
So I'll assume the common knowledge is out there, and leave it at that.
SA.
...rejected by a particular provider...I've never contacted Serenity, much less been rejected by her; however, I do know someone who is a former client of hers.
If you really want to come to Serenity's aid why not take the time to help her clean up her incall; my friend tells me it's a pigsty. And help her focus on getting sober.
You and your ilk (white knights such as BlueIce57 and HungExSailor) are to blame for Serenity's current emotional and psychological breakdown. You guys propped her up to be something that she's not. You made her believe that she's some kind of rockstar escort.
$400/ hour?? Come on!! Serenity HERSELF tweeted during her last trip to Vegas that total strangers called her "trashy".
The reality is she's just a 40 year old MILF with an addiction who lies and manipulates hobbyists to get the most money out of them that she can.
Havoc!
SlopeSunrise
07-29-17, 01:43
I told myself I was going to be quiet, stay away, and let greater poets scribe their works. So much for that. I am probably 90% responsible for this threads creation due to my "white knight" tendencies, and while that's likely a dubious honor I must agree with admin that this is getting boring. Who gives a flying fuck what any provider charges. I'd charge 500 $ an hour for eating pussy if I could get it and I might from a few! But chances are, the market won't allow that right now. Beside that point, I see nothing but personal jabs, hurt feelings, sour grapes, yada yada yada.
Shut the fuck up about serenity, wheelchairs, adult diapers, and dick injections. Let's kill this stupid fucking thread and talk about the quality pussy this town had to offer? Do I have an AYE??
Who gives a flying fuck what any provider charges.Try posting THAT stupid shit on a different thread and see what happens! LOL!
I'm really hoping that one of you white knights proves foolish enough to marry Serenity. Never mind that her puppies are from three equally deluded 'gentlemen'. Maybe they just weren't good enough. Hahahahaha!
Havoc!
SlopeSunrise
08-02-17, 22:55
Try posting THAT stupid shit on a different thread and see what happens! LOL!
I'm really hoping that one of you white knights proves foolish enough to marry Serenity. Never mind that her puppies are from three equally deluded 'gentlemen'. Maybe they just weren't good enough. Hahahahaha!
Havoc!I never mentioned Serenity, who I do not know. But then you always mention Serenity.
Obsess much?
Anybody doing anything professionally should try and get what they feel they're worth. Charge what the market will bear.
Post #153.
I'm just trying to be genuinely caring and to give this as a service.And I'm just trying to expose a romance scammer and con artist.
As recently as a few weeks ago Serenity tweeted on the subject of 'selling the illusion of love': "I've been selling that shit for years. God forgive me. ".
To the extent that Serenity misleads older, lonely guys into believing that she 'loves' them, the more dangerous she becomes to vulnerable hobbyists who may be recently divorced, grieving the loss of a spouse, depressed or even physically disabled (her "wonderfully humble men".
Hopefully these posts serve to warn hobbyists about a predatory provider and to stop this threat in her tracks. Time to load and lock.
Havoc!
AkTraveler
08-03-17, 23:25
Dude, get over it.LOL. He will eventually. I think the best way to avoid his drivel, and this is A2's suggestion, is to put the guy and his alter ego on ignore. He's being allowed to carry out his vendetta on this thread and really, the crap he posts belongs under stupid shit. A2 understandably want's to keep this drama off of the other threads, though I think A2 is remiss in allowing this harassment to continue even here.
Call this "white knighting" or whatever you want, but it's pretty obvious that his agenda is to hurt a certain lady any way he can. It's really pretty pathetic. Most of you are smart enough to see through his BS and judging by the comments have. Serenity's stellar reviews, by trusted members of this community, should speak for themselves. The lady is nothing short of an outstanding experience.
So ignore the guy if you're tired of his drama and let him ramble on here alone. A sort of sad Gollum like thing bouncing around the walls of "Stupid Shit in Anchorage" where he belongs.
A2 understandably want's to keep this drama off of the other threads, though I think A2 is remiss in allowing this harassment to continue even here.I've kind of lost count of the number of times I've banned him. He's not going anywhere. You all know that he's only hear to say bad shit about one chick. Nobody with half a brain pays any fucking attention to him, which is why he's not hurting her.
Please (not you others) stop writing me asking me to get rid of him. I can ban him in 5 seconds but what does that accomplish if he registers a new user one minute later. Then all the people who did what they should and had him on ignore have to deal with him all over again.
If you don't want to read what he writes put him on your ignore list. Since you can do that, if you don't it's because you WANT to read what he's writing.
A2.
Call this "white knighting"...Serenity tweets: "She was drowning in quicksand and reaching out to me and crying in her last breath. The ground covered her mouth and nose".
BlueIce57 likes!
I couldn't make this stuff up even if I wanted to; it's all on Twitter. Hahahaha! You should marry her, Blue! LOL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=incSwssUyp4
Havoc!
AkTraveler
08-04-17, 11:47
I've kind of lost count of the number of times I've banned him. He's not going anywhere. You all know that he's only hear to say bad shit about one chick. Nobody with half a brain pays any fucking attention to him, which is why he's not hurting her.
Please (not you others) stop writing me asking me to get rid of him. I can ban him in 5 seconds but what does that accomplish if he registers a new user one minute later. Then all the people who did what they should and had him on ignore have to deal with him all over again.
If you don't want to read what he writes put him on your ignore list. Since you can do that, if you don't it's because you WANT to read what he's writing.
A2.I get it A2. There's no stopping a determined, sick person like this and this guy is sick, but he is using your site to harass and verbally abuse someone. [Deleted by Admin]
This is where I stopped reading because you aren't getting it.
The only thing he's doing is showing the world he's a troll, by CONTINUOUSLY engaging with him guys like you keep him active.
I explained what to do, now do it. None of that included putting up a long post about why I was wrong.
I put him on your ignore list, so problem solved, no thanks are needed.
A2
I get it A2.You started a thread on TNA devoted to bashing USASG members and moderators.
You mistakenly believe that I'm someone I'm not.
Would you at least acknowledge that A2 caught Serenity using a second username to give herself a bogus recommendation?
If you can open your eyes to that bit of deceit, you'll begin to see your 'lady' for who she really is.
Havoc!
AkTraveler
08-04-17, 22:00
This is really my last post in this thread. I had already put the guy on ignore and haven't engaged him for sometime now and have no intention of doing so. All good on my end.
AKwankerman
08-05-17, 15:51
Adding peeps to the ignore list was good info A2. But I fear your starting to get sucked into the Bullshit.
Serenity's face is thrashed so no thanks.
Charlie doesn't answer her phone or respond to text so who cares how great a unicorn is.
Vanesaa / davina is lovely.
Katie rocks socks and always gets the job done.
Both Lillys out there are scary hard and drugged up.
Fate is a druggie with track marks. Pass.
Kendals twat stinks so bad that you can't be on the same room with her pants off. That was a no go!
You guys get all wrapped around the axels about how well you these provides or how you know each other. It's madness.
Just keep it straight and to the point about pussy and other factors about the pussy and the normal safety indicators about getting the pussy.
This isn't fine wine. Its borrowed pussy.
I think that quite a few posters share their user names. It helps providers to screen / vett (reviews, board presence etc) potential clients. It might influence reviews, but if you've only seen the lady once and done, I wouldn't think so. Providers have different screening requirements to ensure their safety. Giving out your user name from a board like this is pretty innocuous. Personally, if I find a lady that I like, I don't mind giving out enough info in order for her to feel comfortable seeing me but only after I'm sure she's legit. Do your research first. A lady that cares about her safety, cares about yours as well. IMO. There are a lot of ladies that check this site out regularly.The argument that a provider needs a hobbyist's username on USASG to screen for safety is ridiculous, which is why I've quoted and replied to this commentary on the stupid shit thread.
Even Katie-tcl says in post # 4710 that it's good that she doesn't know the usernames of her clients, demonstrating that she has more integrity and more sense than some hobbyists.
Havoc!
The argument that a provider needs a hobbyist's username on USASG to screen for safety is ridiculous, which is why I've quoted and replied to this commentary on the stupid shit thread.
Even Katie-tcl says in post # 4710 that it's good that she doesn't know the usernames of her clients, demonstrating that she has more integrity and more sense than some hobbyists.
Havoc!Says the certified POS who has at least a half-dozen different usernames on this very forum, desperately pretending they represent entirely different half-men.
SA.
It was brought to my attention that an ex client of Serenity Lux filed a civil protective order against her due to an incident in which she was violent. This is documented and can be verified in Alaska State Court View.
Stay safe!
Hereforthefun
08-29-17, 20:33
It was brought to my attention that an ex client of Serenity Lux filed a civil protective order against her due to an incident in which she was violent. This is documented and can be verified in Alaska State Court View.
Stay safe!The civil protective order action was part of a bitter break-up Serenity had with her then-boyfriend. Peace was restored, the order was removed and everyone went on their merry way. Ironically this matter occurred during a time that Serenity was being cyber-stalked by a POS hobbyist. Sadly, Serenity probably has more to fear from "us" than "we" do from her.
AkTraveler
08-30-17, 02:21
The civil protective order action was part of a bitter break-up Serenity had with her then-boyfriend. Peace was restored, the order was removed and everyone went on their merry way. Ironically this matter occurred during a time that Serenity was being cyber-stalked by a POS hobbyist. Sadly, Serenity probably has more to fear from "us" than "we" do from her.Excellent post Hereforthefun. A good way to dispel a somewhat disingenuous post. Some people and their vindictive agendas. Sheesh! Ridiculous to imply that Serenity is violent. This is a chill, relaxed and incredibly fun lady to hang with.
I think it could be important for both hobbyists to screen providers and providers to screen hobbyists but the reality is that providers who screen tend to be demanding and difficult. A background check into the lives of most providers would probably reveal a lot that would give us pause, such as controlled substance abuse and criminal histories that include violence.
On the other hand, I have seen providers in 6 countries in Western Europe where the hobby is perfectly legal or decriminalized and practiced in the open with no fear from LE and screening is NOT common or universal, even among top tier chicks charging +500 Euros.
It would be a Sisyphean effort to attempt to convert guys who don't want to be screened. They aren't going to change just because a provider asks them to on their website if the only upside to screening is overpriced pussy. And you really do have to take the possibility of blackmail and 'outing' seriously.
In principle I'm OK with screening, even showing my driver's license but it's only fair to ask a girl to provide the same transparency. If I give her my real name to do a background check, I expect her to give me her name so I can check into her as well.
My advice to providers reading the current Itzel drama over on the Backpage reviews.
When someone posts a bad review of you, do not start blowing up their email and arguing on the thread. Honestly, no one is interested in hearing your side and his side and so on. What we are really looking for is proof that you will not be standing people up in the future. The best way to prove that is to contact the person who wrote a bad review on you and give him the incentive to come back, have a good experience, and then post: "She corrected her mistake and then some. "
If he's not amenable to that, contact the guys here that regularly post reviews and give them some major incentive to come see you. You know they post regularly. Odds are that they will post that you've corrected the problem and they had a good time.
There are very few good providers in Anchorage. Most are over priced and unreliable. There is a lot of opportunity here for someone who offers good deals and is reliable.
Even if the guy is lying it goes much further with the rest of us if we see a post from you saying you're not sure what happened there but you're sorry and it definitely won't happen again. That's the kind of post that makes me think okay maybe I'll give her a try. But when you start arguing I immediately think you're my ex-wife and want to run for the hills.
SucculentItzel
09-12-17, 12:12
My advice to providers reading the current Itzel drama over on the Backpage reviews.
When someone posts a bad review of you, do not start blowing up their email and arguing on the thread. Honestly, no one is interested in hearing your side and his side and so on. What we are really looking for is proof that you will not be standing people up in the future. The best way to prove that is to contact the person who wrote a bad review on you and give him the incentive to come back, have a good experience, and then post: "She corrected her mistake and then some. "
If he's not amenable to that, contact the guys here that regularly post reviews and give them some major incentive to come see you. You know they post regularly. Odds are that they will post that you've corrected the problem and they had a good time.
There are very few good providers in Anchorage. Most are over priced and unreliable. There is a lot of opportunity here for someone who offers good deals and is reliable.
Even if the guy is lying it goes much further with the rest of us if we see a post from you saying you're not sure what happened there but you're sorry and it definitely won't happen again. That's the kind of post that makes me think okay maybe I'll give her a try. But when you start arguing I immediately think you're my ex-wife and want to run for the hills.It's funny you say that because I am a very polite and cordial individual I do not argue with anybody that is very unprofessional all that I was saying was people who book appointments with me and don't show get blacklisted that's the only reason why I can think he wasn't able to get a hold of me now I don't think that's in any type of way argumentative so I totally agree with what you're saying I am a very easy-going person I am a very easy-going individual I have no right to argue with anybody especially to a person that I've more than likely have never met.
My advice to providers reading the current Itzel drama over on the Backpage reviews.
When someone posts a bad review of you, do not start blowing up their email and arguing on the thread. Honestly, no one is interested in hearing your side and his side and so on. What we are really looking for is proof that you will not be standing people up in the future. The best way to prove that is to contact the person who wrote a bad review on you and give him the incentive to come back, have a good experience, and then post: "She corrected her mistake and then some. "
If he's not amenable to that, contact the guys here that regularly post reviews and give them some major incentive to come see you. You know they post regularly. Odds are that they will post that you've corrected the problem and they had a good time.
There are very few good providers in Anchorage. Most are over priced and unreliable. There is a lot of opportunity here for someone who offers good deals and is reliable.
Even if the guy is lying it goes much further with the rest of us if we see a post from you saying you're not sure what happened there but you're sorry and it definitely won't happen again. That's the kind of post that makes me think okay maybe I'll give her a try. But when you start arguing I immediately think you're my ex-wife and want to run for the hills.I'm new so I've been staying on the DL and doing a lot of observing. Been paying attention to the situation regarding said provider and I've pretty much made up my mind to completely avoid getting into any kind of arrangement or situation with her. There seems to be enough drama and excitement in this hobby without adding any intentionally. Thank you all for the heads up. As I get involved, I will be doing my best to positively add to the threads.
SucculentItzel
09-12-17, 14:57
I'm new so I've been staying on the DL and doing a lot of observing. Been paying attention to the situation regarding said provider and I've pretty much made up my mind to completely avoid getting into any kind of arrangement or situation with her. There seems to be enough drama and excitement in this hobby without adding any intentionally. Thank you all for the heads up. As I get involved, I will be doing my best to positively add to the threads.So if everyone told you, you should jump off of a bridge would you? Guess so. My regulars love me period so there's no love loss one negative thought with many positive reviews.
I think it could be important for both hobbyists to screen providers and providers to screen hobbyists but the reality is that providers who screen tend to be demanding and difficult. A background check into the lives of most providers would probably reveal a lot that would give us pause, such as controlled substance abuse and criminal histories that include violence.
On the other hand, I have seen providers in 6 countries in Western Europe where the hobby is perfectly legal or decriminalized and practiced in the open with no fear from LE and screening is NOT common or universal, even among top tier chicks charging +500 Euros.You really can't compare the hobby in Europe to the States in the same way that you can't compare, say purchasing something from Amazon or paying your chiropractor to paying a provider; one is a legal consumer activity and the other is not. Until laws change I'll always take the following precautions: Never screen with real name or driver's license and ALWAYS use a burner phone.
I've said this before but I think it's worth repeating, I have a friend who's a lawyer with a practice focused on criminal defense and civil litigation. I asked him once about screening with providers and he literally laughed out loud and said that it'd be nothing short of foolish to give my personal details to anyone involved in any activity outside of the law.
Real professional escorts don't need or want to know a client's real name, where they live, what their business or job is, etc. What they need to know is that a new client is not a cop and not a psycho. If you're visiting a provider at her incall hotel, the cameras and staff do all the screening she needs to do, along with the standard cop check in the room (squeeze my tits / show me your cock).
A provider who collects hobbyists' real names will turn over all info to the feds as soon as they come for her head.
On the other side of the coin, one of the best ways to screen providers is speaking to other providers; all of the in-state girls know each other. I have a spread sheet going back 5 years on local providers and reviews from USASG are invaluable. And of course if you have her details use Court View.
As far as BlueIce57's idea of sharing your username on USASG with a provider goes, remember that some boards are HTTP and others are HTTPS. Consider what that means in the context of the following Anatomy of a Police Investigation of an Internet Site:
http://adultinternetlaw.com/articles/police_investigation.php
Hey Itzel, why do you use "succulent" in your name, but then there are reports you don't allow dining at the Y? 😱 🤷🏻*♂️ 🤣
SucculentItzel
09-12-17, 21:42
Hey Itzel, why do you use "succulent" in your name, but then there are reports you don't allow dining at the Y? 😱 🤷🏻*♂️ 🤣That's definitely a YMMV thing hun you have to get enough brownie points to taste this honey 😎 I don't allow just any gingivitis sore throat gonorreah carrying down the throat individual drink my juices 🤷127995;8205;9792;65039; That's something that has to be evaluated and determined over a period of time.
AKwankerman
09-13-17, 10:53
That's definitely a YMMV thing hun you have to get enough brownie points to taste this honey 😎 I don't allow just any gingivitis sore throat gonorreah carrying down the throat individual drink my juices 🤷127995;8205;9792;65039; That's something that has to be evaluated and determined over a period of time.Or is it Wookiee butter?
Member #5664
09-13-17, 14:15
That's definitely a YMMV thing hun you have to get enough brownie points to taste this honey 😎 I don't allow just any gingivitis sore throat gonorreah carrying down the throat individual drink my juices 🤷127995;8205;9792;65039; That's something that has to be evaluated and determined over a period of time.I must admit I like your response to that Itzel. I'd love to meet you knowing that you are a good safety minded provider z.
That's definitely a YMMV thing hun you have to get enough brownie points to taste this honey 😎 I don't allow just any gingivitis sore throat gonorreah carrying down the throat individual drink my juices 🤷127995;8205;9792;65039; That's something that has to be evaluated and determined over a period of time.What if a guy came with a note from his doctor saying he's cleared to eat pussy? 🤔 🤣 (Just messing with you). 😃.
What if a guy came with a note from his doctor saying he's cleared to eat pussy? 🤔 🤣 (Just messing with you). 😃.Or maybe it should be part of the screening process from other providers? 😂 (Ya something is not right with me). 😝.
Seriously, that would be the fucking day I ever begged a sex worker, shit any woman, to let me eat their pussy. A couple lesbian friends of mine took me under their wings when I was a young man and taught me how to do that. They said they wanted to do their part for all the women I would meet in my life that wouldn't let a woman go down on them.
I'm so glad I live in South America.
SucculentItzel
09-14-17, 10:58
Seriously, that would be the fucking day I ever begged a sex worker, shit any woman, to let me eat their pussy. A couple lesbian friends of mine took me under their wings when I was a young man and taught me how to do that. They said they wanted to do their part for all the women I would meet in my life that wouldn't let a woman go down on them.
I'm so glad I live in South America.Yes women def get a little bit more leniency (I love females 👯 but she has to be super hot and super clean.
SucculentItzel
09-14-17, 11:00
Or is it Wookiee butter?Watching too much Star Wars can be unhealthy you know.
SucculentItzel
09-14-17, 11:02
I must admit I like your response to that Itzel. I'd love to meet you knowing that you are a good safety minded provider z.Very kind and intelligent of you to compliment me in such a manner that most men think is BS. You only get one body in life. Mine as well take care of it.
Seriously, that would be the fucking day I ever begged a sex worker, shit any woman, to let me eat their pussy. A couple lesbian friends of mine took me under their wings when I was a young man and taught me how to do that. They said they wanted to do their part for all the women I would meet in my life that wouldn't let a woman go down on them.
I'm so glad I live in South America.🤣128517;128567;.
AKwankerman
09-15-17, 00:18
Yes women def get a little bit more leniency (I love females 👯 but she has to be super hot and super clean.According to the lore most female Sasquatch prefer hairy muffs too.
SucculentItzel
09-15-17, 11:51
According to the lore most female Sasquatch prefer hairy muffs too.How can you even have an opinion when it's OBVIOUS you're gay as all outdoors.
AKwankerman
09-15-17, 17:37
How can you even have an opinion when it's OBVIOUS you're gay as all outdoors.You say that cause your a Bigfoot.
SucculentItzel
09-15-17, 20:31
You say that cause your a Bigfoot.It takes a bigger stand to hold up a church than a shit house 🤷127995;8205;9792;65039;.
I smell a cage match coming, The Succulent Itzel and the Lux of Alaska Miss Serentiy versus the AK Wankerman and the Snowman with his several secondary personalities Cry Havoc, Roizq, and more! Who will win? How many personalities will the Snowman bring? Is that what the 57 means?
Tune in next week and see.
AKwankerman
09-16-17, 03:13
It takes a bigger stand to hold up a church than a shit house 🤷127995;8205;9792;65039;.What's your shoe size?
Ya Bigfoot! Goonie goo koo?
It was brought to my attention that an ex client of Serenity Lux filed a civil protective order against her due to an incident in which she was violent. This is documented and can be verified in Alaska State Court View.
Stay safe!Court view is a good tool if you know a provider's name. It's unlikely that I'd ever see a chick whose violence is a matter of public record but if I did date her, I'd make damn sure I was prepared to defend myself.
A lot of these chicks are definitely north of the crazy line, well into the danger zone and they require a tactical response, IMHO.
Hot Crazy Matrix: Man's Guide To Women https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=incSwssUyp4.
Havoc!
AkTraveler
09-24-17, 11:52
Couldn't help but notice and find it rather humorous, Cryhavoc talking to himself (snowman) re: his Serenity obsession.
See posts 199 and 200 for the truth.
Couldn't help but notice...When a woman has three puppies with three different guys, that fact alone should tell you that there's something wrong with her so I wasn't surprised by what I saw in Court View.
If a provider hits a client or damages his property and he has to get a restraining order to prevent her from doing it again I think other hobbyists should know about it. It is after all a matter of public record.
Havoc!
AkTraveler
09-25-17, 20:15
Cry or Snowman. Maybe providers should get a look at a clients or potential clients criminal record. Just to be safe. As pointed out in an earlier post by hereforthefun, they probably have a lot more to fear from clients than we do from them.
How would you like your record posted on a public forum? You okay with that?
AkTraveler
09-25-17, 21:06
If you want to see what cry and his alter ego snowman is about just look at post #4290 in the BP review thread.
Cry or Snowman. Maybe providers should get a look at a clients or potential clients criminal record. Just to be safe. As pointed out in an earlier post by hereforthefun, they probably have a lot more to fear from clients than we do from them.
How would you like your record posted on a public forum? You okay with that?I think mutual screening makes sense. If a provider needs my real name to screen me, I expect the same transparency from her.
The best way for a white knight such as yourself to protect and shield Serenity from the honest criticism of this forum is to marry her and take her off the market.
She's going on 40 years old, single with three puppies from three different guys and working as a provider. The question is whether, after hundreds of clients, can she have a truly sexually intimate relationship without an exchange of money. Probably not but maybe you can save her.
As far as my personal safety goes, I have a conceal / carry permit. I feel confident that I can handle any situation that might happen with a provider, but then again I don't go looking for trouble.
Havoc!
AKwankerman
10-17-17, 12:46
Not so long ago in a city close by.
The Wookiee returned from a far away place.
After letting her presence be known that she'd returned our young Jedi set out to do combat.
He was able to successfully make contact this time by using a texting app.
He made his appointment and set out to conquer a the Wookiee.
He arrived at her location, no signs of hostility and was clean.
The Wookiee answered the door quickly and was courteous which surprised our hero.
She then insisted on a customary check to ensure he wasn't an imperial agent.
As a smaller man our hero was taken back by the Wookiee's shear size and girth.
He was both afraid and excited.
After placing his combat tribute horizontal combat commenced.
The Wookiee areas were surpisingly clean and well shaven.
The Wookiee's ass has so much mass you could slingshot the kessel run in 8 parcects.
Finally after impaling the Wookiee many times with his saber our Jedi let forth a yell and expelled the dark side from.
Within.
Our Jedi was then given a decent back rub with some pleasant chat from the Wookiee.
Upon leaving he whistled he imperial March.
The end?
Girth Johnson
10-17-17, 17:42
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As a smaller man our hero was taken back by the Wookiee's shear size and GIRTH.
- Did I hear someone calling my name?
Momma called me Thick but you can call me Girth.
Not so long ago in a city close by.
The Wookiee returned from a far away place.
After letting her presence be known that she'd returned our young Jedi set out to do combat.
He was able to successfully make contact this time by using a texting app.
He made his appointment and set out to conquer a the Wookiee.
He arrived at her location, no signs of hostility and was clean.
The Wookiee answered the door quickly and was courteous which surprised our hero.
She then insisted on a customary check to ensure he wasn't an imperial agent.
As a smaller man our hero was taken back by the Wookiee's shear size and girth.
He was both afraid and excited.
After placing his combat tribute horizontal combat commenced.
The Wookiee areas were surpisingly clean and well shaven.
The Wookiee's ass has so much mass you could slingshot the kessel run in 8 parcects.
Finally after impaling the Wookiee many times with his saber our Jedi let forth a yell and expelled the dark side from.
Within.
Our Jedi was then given a decent back rub with some pleasant chat from the Wookiee.
Upon leaving he whistled he imperial March.
The end?Fucking hilarious.
SucculentItzel
10-20-17, 10:29
Not so long ago in a city close by.
The Wookiee returned from a far away place.
After letting her presence be known that she'd returned our young Jedi set out to do combat.
He was able to successfully make contact this time by using a texting app.
He made his appointment and set out to conquer a the Wookiee.
He arrived at her location, no signs of hostility and was clean.
The Wookiee answered the door quickly and was courteous which surprised our hero.
She then insisted on a customary check to ensure he wasn't an imperial agent.
As a smaller man our hero was taken back by the Wookiee's shear size and girth.
He was both afraid and excited.Thanks for the great review! I don't speak geek but it sounds like a great one.
IMPORTANT NOTE Taylor does NOT use any photos that are actually her own. While this is not uncommon, she uses photos that are "hot" without really considering if they truly represent her look and body type. In my opinion they don't, but I'm here to remedy that a bit. Your 'Taylor' is actually the same provider that you referenced in post #4904. I've been following the ad and watching the same group of photos, some of which you identified as the model Jada Christa, and at least four different names (India, Lauryn, Molly, Chanel) and two different numbers cycle through several days of postings on BP.
Is this the Taylor that you also cited in post #4879?
It's kind of weird that a beautiful traveling girl from Vegas or Seattle or wherever wouldn't use a single real photo of herself with her face cropped out of the frame.
My experience is that all the best providers are more transparent than 'Taylor' has been.
I also noticed that her latest name change from Lauryn to Taylor coincided with the appearance of your review, which her BP ad now references.
If you received a discount for offering a positive review please disclose that.
Girth Johnson
10-26-17, 02:18
Your 'Taylor' is actually the same provider that you referenced in post #4904. I've been following the ad and watching the same group of photos, some of which you identified as the model Jada Christa, and at least four different names (India, Lauryn, Molly, Chanel) and two different numbers cycle through several days of postings on BP.
Is this the Taylor that you also cited in post #4879?
It's kind of weird that a beautiful traveling girl from Vegas or Seattle or wherever wouldn't use a single real photo of herself with her face cropped out of the frame.
My experience is that all the best providers are more transparent than 'Taylor' has been.
I also noticed that her latest name change from Lauryn to Taylor coincided with the appearance of your review, which her BP ad now references.
If you received a discount for offering a positive review please disclose that.No way to know for sure, but perhaps you have a reading disorder. Compare ad links and phone numbers in all those posts and you'll find that you have somehow mixed up totally different ads, totally different providers, and totally different reports submitted by me. The "Taylor" I reviewed today has, as far as I know, only TWO phone numbers, the number I posted in her Callescort link and her private phone that she says she does not disclose to anyone in the hobby. All of her ads, fake photos notwithstanding, have used ONLY the single 206-xxx-3218 phone number.
This is an apparent reading comprehension failure on your part, and you are way, way out of line to suggest that I was offered ANYTHING in compensation for my positive review. I first met the girl today, and I undoubtedly won't see her again because she'll be gone by the time I get back to Anchorage. In all, I spent slightly over one hour with her in my entire life, and no "discount" was offered OR requested. That cheapskate "negotiating" bullshit may be your speed, but it's certainly not mine.
True, AS I MADE PERFECTLY CLEAR, the "Taylor" I reviewed today has obviously cycled through various photos (that are not her), but as far as I know her phone number has remained the same since she first arrived on the Anchorage BP scene maybe 2 weeks ago. I was perfectly prepared to say, upon meeting her in person, that I did not like her using fake photos and then cancel the appointment. However, upon her opening the hotel room door I found her very appealing, and decided to stay and see what came about. As it turns out, I came about. About an hour after we met.
So perhaps you should go back and do a little more "research", and then decide if maybe you owe me an apology. Also, if you think the photo in my post #4904 is the same girl in the photo (in the review) I posted today you may want to have your eyes checked. Visit her, don't visit her. I absolutely don't give a shit. With her level of service, winning personality, and downright sexiness I'm sure she'll do just fine without your "patronage".
So perhaps you should go back and do a little more "research", and then decide if maybe you owe me an apology. Also, if you think the photo in my post #4904 is the same girl in the photo (in the review) I posted today you may want to have your eyes checked.A strategy that traveling providers employ is to 'drop several lines in the water', that is to post multiple ads with diverse photos, names, numbers, ages etc with the goal of maximizing the number of responses that they receive during their short visit to a city.
This is apparently what 'Taylor' has been doing and as you pointed out it can certainly be a little confusing especially if you're just checking Backpage once a day. Their ads will appear to be for different girls; however, watching the ads over several days you will see photos and numbers 'overlap' two or three ads which also tend to pop up on BP all together at approximately the same time, as if posted from a single account.
http://www.escortprofile.xxx/206-929-3218/
I've dated many girls that do this and I've even talked 'shop' with local Alexus Dime who used to 'run' girls up to Anchorage from Las Vegas. The thing is, in all my years in the hobby, I can't think of a single girl who does this (who doesn't use a real photo of herself and may post multiple ads with stolen photos) that I would recommend to other hobbyists. The corollary is also true: ALL of the Backpage providers that I recommend post real photos of themselves, and it's not just about wanting to discourage deceptive advertising tactics. The fact is honest honest girls provide the best service.
If you go through the archives of this thread on USASG, you'd be hard pressed to find any recommendations of providers that don't use real photos of themselves, with the exception of your report on 'Taylor' (I've even checked your reviews under the handles SANewGuy and Twakker1700).
On the matter of offering a positive review to a provider, it seems like a smart way to leverage better service or a discount, and who doesn't want great service for a reasonable price!
Girth Johnson
10-26-17, 20:16
If you go through the archives of this thread on USASG, you'd be hard pressed to find any recommendations of providers that don't use real photos of themselves, with the exception of your report on 'Taylor' (I've even checked your reviews under the handles SANewGuy and Twakker1700).
On the matter of offering a positive review to a provider, it seems like a smart way to leverage better service or a discount, and who doesn't want great service for a reasonable price!You don't know what you're talking about. Highly recommended locals who DO NOT use their own photos include:
Draya (aka MZ2 Much, Monroe Black, et al).
Kali Couture (aka Creamy little Mama, Kali Staxx, et al).
Mocha (aka StacyB, et al).
Pinky (aka Cherry, Pinky little).
I've been with all four, some more than once. All four are stellar providers, and NONE of them use their own photos. With the exception of Mocha, who uses a couple of her own photos, mixed in with "borrowed" images. You might notice that all four are also black, Every one of them has told me they use "fake" photos because of their distinct tattoos combined with having a real life with a real family outside of the "hobby". Additionally, ALL of them have earned high marks on my Girth Johnson Standard Review scale.
Using fake photos can certainly be seen as a red flag. Particularly if the published photos to not offer an accurate representation of what a monger will actually encounter. HOWEVER, it's only one indicator, and a diligent hobbyist who is looking for those gems among the beach pebbles will examine many other parameters before rejecting a provider simply because she doesn't want to be recognized by her friends and family. Black female Taylor, whom you still refuse to admit you were wrong about, was undoubtedly the greatest leap of faith I've taken in a long time. But many other traits she exhibited, not the least of which was her VERY professional promptness and cordiality, stirred me to move forward anyway. I was fully prepared to pull up and walk away as I was knocking on her door, but the pleasant surprise of meeting a very attractive woman who was truly into the encounter pulled me in, and I am the better for it.
Not everyone is into trolling the avenues for barely legal native girls to turn out, and for those of us with higher standards there are many OTHER variables (aside from ad photos) to consider when choosing a temporary girlfriend.
Draya (aka MZ2 Much, Monroe Black, et al).
Kali Couture (aka Creamy little Mama, Kali Staxx, et al).
Mocha (aka StacyB, et al).
Pinky (aka Cherry, Pinky little).
I've been with all four, some more than once. All four are stellar providers, and NONE of them use their own photos. With the exception of Mocha, who uses a couple of her own photos, mixed in with "borrowed" images. You might notice that all four are also black, Every one of them has told me they use "fake" photos because of their distinct tattoos combined with having a real life with a real family outside of the "hobby". Additionally, ALL of them have earned high marks on my Girth Johnson Standard Review scale.I think the subtext of your report on 'Taylor' is the humiliation you recently experienced with Bella (post #4803). In an effort to avoid a repeat of that fiasco, you offered Taylor a positive review on USASG, which she IMMEDIATELY referenced in her BP ad after seeing you, and after 'rebranding' herself with a new name. 'Taylor', a provider whose shady advertising practices would deter most of us from seeing her, recognized the value of the positive review you offered her and actually delivered an experience that you earnestly would recommend to others.
I don't doubt your earnestness one bit and I think it was a smart move on your part to offer Taylor a positive review thereby assuring better service than she would otherwise provide a hapless schmuck who responded to her stolen photo ads.
What isn't clear however, is the standard by which you're recommending 'Taylor'. Your '21.5 girth johnson point system' is opaque at best. Let's instead use the 0 - 10 scale which everyone is familiar with, and let's say that Charlie represents a '10' on that scale. My guess is that using this simpler standard, your Taylor is closer to Bella than she is to Charlie.
Adding to the confusion is your predilection or taste in providers, many of whom seem to strongly resemble one another (just look at the photos you've posted). Using some additional descriptors would be helpful, such as bitter dark chocolate or creamy milk chocolate, strong black coffee or rich cafe-au-lait.
From the list of your BATFs only Pinky is reviewed (barely) in this forum; Prytanis said he wouldn't repeat and Crowpass said she's "worth a visit" but thicker than she used to be (see posts #3105 and #3224).
I think the subtext of your report on 'Taylor' is the humiliation you recently experienced with Bella (post #4803). In an effort to avoid a repeat of that fiasco, you offered Taylor a positive review on USASG, which she IMMEDIATELY referenced in her BP ad after seeing you, and after 'rebranding' herself with a new name. 'Taylor', a provider whose shady advertising practices would deter most of us from seeing her, recognized the value of the positive review you offered her and actually delivered an experience that you earnestly would recommend to others.
I don't doubt your earnestness one bit and I think it was a smart move on your part to offer Taylor a positive review thereby assuring better service than she would otherwise provide a hapless schmuck who responded to her stolen photo ads.
What isn't clear however, is the standard by which you're recommending 'Taylor'. Your '21.5 girth johnson point system' is opaque at best. Let's instead use the 0 - 10 scale which everyone is familiar with, and let's say that Charlie represents a '10' on that scale. My guess is that using this simpler standard, your Taylor is closer to Bella than she is to Charlie.
Adding to the confusion is your predilection or taste in providers, many of whom seem to strongly resemble one another (just look at the photos you've posted). Using some additional descriptors would be helpful, such as bitter dark chocolate or creamy milk chocolate, strong black coffee or rich cafe-au-lait.
From the list of your BATFs only Pinky is reviewed (barely) in this forum; Prytanis said he wouldn't repeat and Crowpass said she's "worth a visit" but thicker than she used to be (see posts #3105 and #3224).
You don't know what you're talking about. Highly recommended locals who DO NOT use their own photos include:
Draya (aka MZ2 Much, Monroe Black, et al).
Kali Couture (aka Creamy little Mama, Kali Staxx, et al).
Mocha (aka StacyB, et al).
Pinky (aka Cherry, Pinky little).
I've been with all four, some more than once. All four are stellar providers, and NONE of them use their own photos. With the exception of Mocha, who uses a couple of her own photos, mixed in with "borrowed" images. You might notice that all four are also black, Every one of them has told me they use "fake" photos because of their distinct tattoos combined with having a real life with a real family outside of the "hobby". Additionally, ALL of them have earned high marks on my Girth Johnson Standard Review scale.
Using fake photos can certainly be seen as a red flag. Particularly if the published photos to not offer an accurate representation of what a monger will actually encounter. HOWEVER, it's only one indicator, and a diligent hobbyist who is looking for those gems among the beach pebbles will examine many other parameters before rejecting a provider simply because she doesn't want to be recognized by her friends and family. Black female Taylor, whom you still refuse to admit you were wrong about, was undoubtedly the greatest leap of faith I've taken in a long time. But many other traits she exhibited, not the least of which was her VERY professional promptness and cordiality, stirred me to move forward anyway. I was fully prepared to pull up and walk away as I was knocking on her door, but the pleasant surprise of meeting a very attractive woman who was truly into the encounter pulled me in, and I am the better for it.
Not everyone is into trolling the avenues for barely legal native girls to turn out, and for those of us with higher standards there are many OTHER variables (aside from ad photos) to consider when choosing a temporary girlfriend.You two just need to get a room.
Girth Johnson
10-27-17, 13:23
You two just need to get a room.No, that won't be necessary. I've gotten enough messages from other members detailing what a jerk this guy is, and the prevailing recommendation is to simply put him on "permanent ignore". I will be following that stellar advice immediately after I hit submit on this post.
You don't know what you're talking about. Highly recommended locals who DO NOT use their own photos include:
Draya (aka MZ2 Much, Monroe Black, et al).
Kali Couture (aka Creamy little Mama, Kali Staxx, et al).
Mocha (aka StacyB, et al).
Pinky (aka Cherry, Pinky little).
I've been with all four, some more than once. All four are stellar providers, and NONE of them use their own photos. With the exception of Mocha, who uses a couple of her own photos, mixed in with "borrowed" images. You might notice that all four are also black.Girth would have us believe that this hobby is like his box of chocolates, and you never know who you're going to get!
Buddy of mine once set up a dream with the girl he saw advertised on the left. When he entered her incall, a sketchy apartment in Mountain View, he was confronted with the nightmare on the right.
Truth in advertising is a must! Ask any of the recognized best providers in the business, truth in advertising is a standard that they don't compromise on.
You don't know what you're talking about. Highly recommended locals who DO NOT use their own photos include:
Draya (aka MZ2 Much, Monroe Black, et al).
Kali Couture (aka Creamy little Mama, Kali Staxx, et al).
Mocha (aka StacyB, et al).
Pinky (aka Cherry, Pinky little).
I've been with all four, some more than once. All four are stellar providers, and NONE of them use their own photos. With the exception of Mocha, who uses a couple of her own photos, mixed in with "borrowed" images. You might notice that all four are also black, Every one of them has told me they use "fake" photos because of their distinct tattoos combined with having a real life with a real family outside of the "hobby". Additionally, ALL of them have earned high marks on my Girth Johnson Standard Review scale.
Using fake photos can certainly be seen as a red flag. Particularly if the published photos to not offer an accurate representation of what a monger will actually encounter. HOWEVER, it's only one indicator, and a diligent hobbyist who is looking for those gems among the beach pebbles will examine many other parameters before rejecting a provider simply because she doesn't want to be recognized by her friends and family. Black female Taylor, whom you still refuse to admit you were wrong about, was undoubtedly the greatest leap of faith I've taken in a long time. But many other traits she exhibited, not the least of which was her VERY professional promptness and cordiality, stirred me to move forward anyway. I was fully prepared to pull up and walk away as I was knocking on her door, but the pleasant surprise of meeting a very attractive woman who was truly into the encounter pulled me in, and I am the better for it.
Not everyone is into trolling the avenues for barely legal native girls to turn out, and for those of us with higher standards there are many OTHER variables (aside from ad photos) to consider when choosing a temporary girlfriend.I can confirm that Kali is indeed real, and while she may not use her pics, she is a amazing beauty who does indeed have plenty outside of the hobby to keep private.
It's been some time since I've seen pinky, and she was very attractive, but a bit curvier than the first visit. (Not a bad thing depending on your preferences). I can't speak to the others, but based on our apparent simpatico tastes, would love to hear any further info on Mocha or Draya.
CP.
AkTraveler
10-28-17, 10:11
No, that won't be necessary. I've gotten enough messages from other members detailing what a jerk this guy is, and the prevailing recommendation is to simply put him on "permanent ignore". I will be following that stellar advice immediately after I hit submit on this post.Perfectly.
Girth Johnson
10-28-17, 11:41
I can confirm that Kali is indeed real, and while she may not use her pics, she is a amazing beauty who does indeed have plenty outside of the hobby to keep private.
It's been some time since I've seen pinky, and she was very attractive, but a bit curvier than the first visit. (Not a bad thing depending on your preferences). I can't speak to the others, but based on our apparent simpatico tastes, would love to hear any further info on Mocha or Draya.
CP.She'a a sweetheart very much along the lines of Kali and Pinky. What I would call "LBMILFs" (Little Black Mothers I Love to Fuck). If I recall correctly, YOU supplied me with additional insight on Kali before I puled that particular trigger.
Mocha seems to currently be in the wind, and has been so since August. She kept the same number for a very long time before that so I shoot out a feeler text every week or so in the hope she'll pop up again. If she does I'll fill you in via back channel and refer her to you as well. Draya's number quit working and I haven't seen a new one appear yet, so same story there.
I can confirm that Kali is indeed real, and while she may not use her pics, she is a amazing beauty who does indeed have plenty outside of the hobby to keep private.ALL providers have private lives outside the hobby but the BEST providers are still committed to honestly representing who they are in their advertising. Girth, himself acknowledged that Taylor doesn't use photos that even approximate her 'look' and 'body type' (deliberately misleading) and while he's posted some photos that he believes give a better idea of what she looks like, the fact is no one here really knows what they'd be getting with her.
Here's what Girth said about stolen photos almost two years ago when he was using the handle Twakker1700. This is a direct quote from post #2661:
You are correct. That's a photo of model Lira Galore that "Kali Staxxx" posts as herself in a white outfit walking up a winding staircase, and I've seen several other photos she uses that are not actually her. I've looked with interest at Kali Staxxx, but cannot resolve her use of stolen photographs being misrepresented as herself. Amateur selfies of the real thing would be better, and more honest. And for that reason I'm out.
Twakker1700.The 'box of chocolates' approach, of just accepting providers' false advertising lowers standards and explains why there aren't really any reports on Girth's LBMILFs, besides the two I've already mentioned; Prytanis said that he wouldn't repeat with Pinky and that she doesn't even give BJs, covered or otherwise.
She'a a sweetheart very much along the lines of Kali and Pinky. What I would call "LBMILFs" (Little Black Mothers I Love to Fuck). If I recall correctly, YOU supplied me with additional insight on Kali before I puled that particular trigger.
Mocha seems to currently be in the wind, and has been so since August. She kept the same number for a very long time before that so I shoot out a feeler text every week or so in the hope she'll pop up again. If she does I'll fill you in via back channel and refer her to you as well. Draya's number quit working and I haven't seen a new one appear yet, so same story there.I thought this was Draya:
http://anchorage.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/mz2muchthickness-fetish-lover/5956287
If not any idea on her? Touched base she sounded nice on the phone. Sent other photos that were different but similar in proportion.
Girth Johnson
10-28-17, 23:00
I thought this was Draya:
http://anchorage.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/mz2muchthickness-fetish-lover/5956287
If not any idea on her? Touched base she sounded nice on the phone. Sent other photos that were different but similar in proportion.Yeah. No that's not Draya, simply because even though she will often change her photos (and names) she has retained the same phone number for as long as I've known her. In fact, all this talk about her prompted me to reach out tonight and will be seeing her some time next week.
I refer to her on this forum as "Draya" because that's the first name I knew her by. I call her by her real name in person. Meanwhile, she's currently "Paris".
http://anchorage.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/paris-%F0%9F%85%85-%F0%9F%84%B1-cutie-%E1%B6%9CALL%E1%B4%8D%E1%B4%87/6147927
Her is an actual photo of her from behind. I know it's really her because I took it. Sorry it's so blurry, but for some reason the bed was shaking at the time:
Yeah. No that's not Draya...See if you can figure out who is who.
1) Girth recommends Draya aka Mz2 Much and others from his 'box of chocolates'.
2) Ziphran comments "I thought this was Draya" and posts a link to a BP ad for Mz2 Much.
3) Girth responds "No, that's not Draya" and post a link to a BP ad explaining that Draya is now 'Paris'.
The reason providers change names is because they've developed a 'bad rep' under a certain name. Changing names allows them to continue to con hobbyists without facing a penalty for their previous bad service.
The best providers carefully manage their name as their brand and there's no need to ask what they look like because they use real photos of themselves. A worthy provider's mindset is focused on literally 'providing' for her clients.
The mindset of a 'box of chocolates' girl, using false advertising, is focused on playing games to dupe guys whom they refer to behind their backs as 'dumb tricks'.
Don't be a dumb trick.
Girth Johnson
10-29-17, 17:10
Yeah. No that's not Draya, simply because even though she will often change her photos (and names) she has retained the same phone number for as long as I've known her. In fact, all this talk about her prompted me to reach out tonight and will be seeing her some time next week.
I refer to her on this forum as "Draya" because that's the first name I knew her by. I call her by her real name in person. Meanwhile, she's currently "Paris".
http://anchorage.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/paris-%F0%9F%85%85-%F0%9F%84%B1-cutie-%E1%B6%9CALL%E1%B4%8D%E1%B4%87/6147927
Her is an actual photo of her from behind. I know it's really her because I took it. Sorry it's so blurry, but for some reason the bed was shaking at the time:One other point, virtually NO provider uses her actual LEGAL name, for obvious reasons. So that means they're ALL lying about who they are. To fear THAT innocent bit of deception would just be stupid.
And virtually EVERY provider I've ever seen has changed names over the time she's in the business. To suggest there is only one single, negative reason for changing names would be IDIOTIC. Some change their names because of an overlap Such as the recent WA state girl. With nothing but positive reviews. Who switched away from "Delicious Davina" when she came to Alaska. Why? Because there was already a local ATF using "Davina". Good example of why many providers change names: to reduce confusion in the marketplace.
Another reason might be to find the "name" that creates the most customer traffic. Anyone who thinks THAT'S not a valid reason must not understand marketing 101. In any event, there is BOUND to be some overlap with similar, or even identical names. For example, a TER search for the provider name "Paris" turns up over 900 profiles. Over 500 "Savannahs" and almost 400 "Mercedes".
Local "Davina" has also been "Vanessa", and "Charlie" has been another name I'll just keep to myself. But both Charlie and Davina have STELLAR reputations, so to automatically draw the conclusion that a name change = bad is the mindset of a fool. And you know what they say: "There's no fool like an OLD FOOL".
I would propose that the voices to listen to are the ones who have actually seen the provider in question. I've seen "Draya". I've provided an unmistakable path to reach her if one so desires. Lending any credence to disparaging remarks made by someone who's only looking to stir up shit would be a disservice, not only to the provider herself, but to the hobbyist who deserves to find out for himself. I'd say that's pretty straight reasoning from a guy who DOESN'T have a ax to grind.
GlacierBear
10-29-17, 23:05
One other point, virtually NO provider uses her actual LEGAL name, for obvious reasons. So that means they're ALL lying about who they are. To fear THAT innocent bit of deception would just be stupid.
And virtually EVERY provider I've ever seen has changed names over the time she's in the business. To suggest there is only one single, negative reason for changing names would be IDIOTIC. Some change their names because of an overlap Such as the recent WA state girl. With nothing but positive reviews. Who switched away from "Delicious Davina" when she came to Alaska. Why? Because there was already a local ATF using "Davina". Good example of why many providers change names: to reduce confusion in the marketplace.
Another reason might be to find the "name" that creates the most customer traffic. Anyone who thinks THAT'S not a valid reason must not understand marketing 101. In any event, there is BOUND to be some overlap with similar, or even identical names. For example, a TER search for the provider name "Paris" turns up over 900 profiles. Over 500 "Savannahs" and almost 400 "Mercedes".
Local "Davina" has also been "Vanessa", and "Charlie" has been another name I'll just keep to myself. But both Charlie and Davina have STELLAR reputations, so to automatically draw the conclusion that a name change = bad is the mindset of a fool. And you know what they say: "There's no fool like an OLD FOOL".
I would propose that the voices to listen to are the ones who have actually seen the provider in question. I've seen "Draya". I've provided an unmistakable path to reach her if one so desires. Lending any credence to disparaging remarks made by someone who's only looking to stir up shit would be a disservice, not only to the provider herself, but to the hobbyist who deserves to find out for himself. I'd say that's pretty straight reasoning from a guy who DOESN'T have a ax to grind.Sure wish I was as smart as Girth. He just seems to know everything about everything. And, seems to have a perfect rating system for the girls (which I'm not smart enough to understand). Oh, well, maybe the next life, eh?
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