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Surfing for Fun
03-12-17, 14:59
Anyone want to start up a SB / SD thread for the Philly area, made some contacts with some on SA but I don't see any discussion board for the area. The area is full of SBs on SA. Don't need to to be as good as the Richmond board, but some discussion would be good!
This girl is a scammer.
She has rent due. Blah blah.
Playing typical scams to separate you from your money so doing anything for you.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/3953014b-9531-45d7-872d-9f3877a1af54
Surfing for Fun
03-17-17, 12:16
Here are some that seemed down for fun when I had my account active.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/9fe9343d-42e9-4bf7-a7af-2eb6a0e45e5f
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/028cb165-d939-4a51-8950-bb52e0f1619b
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/1ac512f4-4068-7907-9d7f-066924b0e8bd
I had the pleasure of dating SB in four different states and DC.
Many Philly ladies are asking way too much as compared to other locations. Definitely a high rate of GPS here, Golden Pussy Syndrome.
Is anyone paying those amounts really?
I had the pleasure of dating SB in four different states and DC.
Many Philly ladies are asking way too much as compared to other locations. Definitely a high rate of GPS here, Golden Pussy Syndrome.
Is anyone paying those amounts really?What's your idea of too much? I've been browsing the Philly girls on SA, but I'm not in town yet and I let my membership lapse so it's just been browsing so far. I'm glad to see this thread started and I hope we can make it more active. If we stick together maybe we can educate some of these girls as to how this works.
I've lived in Philly before and I've always been a fan of AMPs and the occasional BP girl. (I'm also a big fan of mongering overseas, I have the same name on the international version of this site.) A few years ago I moved to the midwest for work, and I found that most of the BP girls here are drug-addicted and ugly. I tried SA last year and I've totally given up on every other venue of the hobby.
I'm hoping I can find similar experiences when I move back to Philly soon. While some girls here in Ohio ask for high prices, I've been quoted as high as 500-1000 per meet, in reality, with some patience, you can find attractive, intelligent college students for 2-300 per meet. And if you're not bad looking and have some game, you can even find freebies.
Right now in Ohio I have two SBs, they're both young, pretty and intelligent. One is 200/ meet and we meet every week, the other one never asked for an allowance and I see her a few times a week for the price of nice dinners, movies, etc. I'll miss both of them when I move back to Philly.
Obviously there are a range of girls on SA. Some are pros or semi-pro, others are actually looking for a long-term arrangement. I've seen both kinds, I like the stability of a real SB but I also like variety.
My strategy is to try to get the girl to meet in public asap, usually for coffee or dinner. I prefer to do this before talking about allowance. In my experience, once they meet you and find out you're real and not some freak, and if you treat them with respect, they'll be more likely to agree to reasonable terms. Also, if you are looking for an ongoing arrangement, they'll usually take less than if it's a one-time thing.
Even here in Ohio there are some girls asking for outrageous amounts. But many of them will negotiate and if they're comfortable with you, you can find some good deals. Most of the girls I've met have eventually agreed to 200-300 per meet. I've never paid more, and they've all been 18-24, college students or recent grads, and much more classy and beautiful than any of the options on BP.
Sorry I can't add any specific info about philly girls at this time, but once I'm back in town I'll renew my membership and I'll be sure to share my experiences.
Surfing for Fun
04-04-17, 12:10
Thanks for your post, I do agree with it, SA is full of those 2-300 per meet college girls. I have one in DC that is 300, but no clock, and is a clean college girl. I need to plan my next active membership to find a few more. That initial meet is so important and I didn't get enough of them done during my first month.
What's your idea of too much? I've been browsing the Philly girls on SA, but I'm not in town yet and I let my membership lapse so it's just been browsing so far. I'm glad to see this thread started and I hope we can make it more active. If we stick together maybe we can educate some of these girls as to how this works.
I've lived in Philly before and I've always been a fan of AMPs and the occasional BP girl. (I'm also a big fan of mongering overseas, I have the same name on the international version of this site.) A few years ago I moved to the midwest for work, and I found that most of the BP girls here are drug-addicted and ugly. I tried SA last year and I've totally given up on every other venue of the hobby.
I'm hoping I can find similar experiences when I move back to Philly soon. While some girls here in Ohio ask for high prices, I've been quoted as high as 500-1000 per meet, in reality, with some patience, you can find attractive, intelligent college students for 2-300 per meet. And if you're not bad looking and have some game, you can even find freebies.
Right now in Ohio I have two SBs, they're both young, pretty and intelligent. One is 200/ meet and we meet every week, the other one never asked for an allowance and I see her a few times a week for the price of nice dinners, movies, etc. I'll miss both of them when I move back to Philly.
Obviously there are a range of girls on SA. Some are pros or semi-pro, others are actually looking for a long-term arrangement. I've seen both kinds, I like the stability of a real SB but I also like variety.
My strategy is to try to get the girl to meet in public asap, usually for coffee or dinner. I prefer to do this before talking about allowance. In my experience, once they meet you and find out you're real and not some freak, and if you treat them with respect, they'll be more likely to agree to reasonable terms. Also, if you are looking for an ongoing arrangement, they'll usually take less than if it's a one-time thing.
Even here in Ohio there are some girls asking for outrageous amounts. But many of them will negotiate and if they're comfortable with you, you can find some good deals. Most of the girls I've met have eventually agreed to 200-300 per meet. I've never paid more, and they've all been 18-24, college students or recent grads, and much more classy and beautiful than any of the options on BP.
Sorry I can't add any specific info about philly girls at this time, but once I'm back in town I'll renew my membership and I'll be sure to share my experiences.
Sorry I can't offer specific info about Philly yet, but I'll be back in a few months so I'll renew my membership at that point.
The initial meet is important. I usually treat it like any other date. I dress appropriately, treat the girl with respect and I try to make interesting conversation about things not related to the arrangement. Then if it goes well, we'll talk about the arrangement at the end or even via text afterwards.
Unfortunately, I haven't had the best luck with trying to stockpile numbers to contact after my membership is up. It works occasionally, but sometimes the girls lose interest or have found another arrangement before I end up meeting them. So I try to meet them asap.
I'll also say from my experience that a higher allowance often doesn't translate to better performance. Naturally, some of the most beautiful girls do ask for higher amounts. But sometimes you can get lucky and find a great girl for a reasonable allowance.
I'm pretty happy with my two SBs now. But I'm excited see what Philly has to offer once I move back.
Philly area is tough compared to many other places I played.
I did find a great lady eventually. You just have to keep trying.
I have a couple of good ladies in Philly I can reference. PM me for details if you are currently an SA member and a senior member.
PhillyDwag
06-06-17, 16:34
Is www.seekingarrangement.com the best site?
Are their semi pros on Tinder?
Are there other similar sites.
Do a search for dating and there just seems to be so many sites.
Anyone can back channel me if that is easier.
Thanks.
I've only paid to use SA and looked at arrangement finders. I see some of the same girls posting on both.
I've had some good luck with SA. Buy a month's membership then make a lot of contacts, get numbers, and try to weed out the spam.
In some respects it's like a job interview, going through all the candidates.
My tastes tend to skew to younger black women. Some have only asked for dinner and nothing more, some needed money to help pay their bills. Nothing exorbitant. I've never had anyone ask for more than 150. On the minus side, some can be flighty and difficult to contact. The whole point of an arrangement is to meet when it's convenient.
Good luck. Hope this helps.
Anyone want to start up a SB / SD thread for the Philly area, made some contacts with some on SA but I don't see any discussion board for the area. The area is full of SBs on SA. Don't need to to be as good as the Richmond board, but some discussion would be good!Anyone have a decent zip code to try? I heard previously on another board, the place to be is at temple.
I got one college blonde hottie and a 29-year old horny brunette in my rotation, both through SA. Life is great.
Do your homework, be a gentleman. , be respectful, be honest, treat this is as a real date and impress her. This is not that complicated.
I got one college blonde hottie and a 29-year old horny brunette in my rotation, both through SA. Life is great.
Do your homework, be a gentleman. , be respectful, be honest, treat this is as a real date and impress her. This is not that complicated.Coming from south jersey, do these college girls host? I've found a few and getting the premium today.
Girls.
Coming from south jersey, do these college girls host? I've found a few and getting the premium today.
Girls.Ok. Got the membership. Ill be updating this thread with any progress along the way.
I got one college blonde hottie and a 29-year old horny brunette in my rotation, both through SA. Life is great.
Do your homework, be a gentleman. , be respectful, be honest, treat this is as a real date and impress her. This is not that complicated.Hey FTP1999,
Are there general guidelines you follow when messaging? Ex, if the pics are too good to be true, if you are searching a particular zip code and the pics look a little to foreign (I. E. Photos of the user traveling to exotic places). Are they generally fake?
NiceGuy0388
09-06-17, 20:11
Decided to try something new and registered with SA. Sent out a few feelers and got response but didn't know you have to upgrade to see / reply. Don't know if its worth it so was hoping for any info. How do you spot fakes? Is this like fishing on BP? If its a lot of b&s then I'd rather just stick to hobbying. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Can pm me if you like.
Hey FTP1999,
Are there general guidelines you follow when messaging? Ex, if the pics are too good to be true, if you are searching a particular zip code and the pics look a little to foreign (I. E. Photos of the user traveling to exotic places). Are they generally fake?If she looks good, I go for it.
Response rates are low, I don't worry about that.
How is everybody doing on SA?
I'm fucking two hot woman, so amazing. They both happen to be nurses but that is just a coincidence.
I have been corresponding with this one. Any info gents? Thanks.
So, I bit the bullet and got the membership. To the credit of the site its' real. Meaning not hoax profiles possibly generated by someone sitting overseas and spamming. You do get response.
Now when it comes to turnover rate then that's slim to none. Meaning over 70-80% SBs are fake. Give or take I got response from 80-100 SBs on messages, and 50+ SBs landed over texting in past 10 days or so. Age range 18-40. I was trying to get sense of if it actually works.
My take:
Age 18-22: don't even try. Crazy college ones, with either fake pics or too unrealistic. 99% want you to pay 100-500 for first casual public meeting or online BS of pics / videos. Probably have crazy BFs / pimps driving them around.
Age 23-30: Reliable, hit or miss. Depending on allowance you want to provide. Most of them want monthly commitments ranging 1000-3000. And many of them are regular Escorts / BP friendly who want to get it to on 1st meet (250-500).
Age 30-40: Less responsive, but willing to work with you when they respond.
Race: AAs tend to be more responsive, but W / L / others are also responsive. I will say 60-40 split.
I am not sure how others have felt so far. But to me, it's extremely less likely to work. Unless someone nice comes along. The question is how genuine they are in terms of how much you can trust them.
So, I bit the bullet and got the SA membership. To the credit of the site its' real. Meaning not hoax profiles possibly generated by someone sitting overseas and spamming. You do get response.
Now when it comes to turnover rate then that's slim to none. Meaning over 70-80% SBs are fake. Give or take I got response from 80-100 SBs on messages, and 50+ SBs landed over texting in past 10 days or so. Age range 18-40. I was trying to get sense of if it actually works.
My take:
Age 18-22: don't even try. Crazy college ones, with either fake pics or too unrealistic. 99% want you to pay 100-500 for first casual public meeting or online BS of pics / videos. Probably have crazy BFs / pimps driving them around.
Age 23-30: Reliable, hit or miss. Depending on allowance you want to provide. Most of them want monthly commitments ranging 1000-3000. And many of them are regular Escorts / BP friendly who want to get it to on 1st meet (250-500).
Age 30-40: Less responsive, but willing to work with you when they respond.
Race: AAs tend to be more responsive, but W / L / others are also responsive. I will say 60-40 split.
I am not sure how others have felt so far. But to me, it's extremely less likely to work. Unless someone nice comes along. The question is how genuine they are in terms of how much you can trust them.
I'm fucking two hot woman, so amazing. They both happen to be nurses but that is just a coincidence.I've seen it on SA in several cities that I visit.
Met several providers who were / are nurses too.
CloserRover
12-11-17, 20:31
Anyone want to start up a SB / SD thread for the Philly area, made some contacts with some on SA but I don't see any discussion board for the area. The area is full of SBs on SA. Don't need to to be as good as the Richmond board, but some discussion would be good!I'd definitely be down.
This is almost a dead thread.
I'd definitely be down.
Surfing for Fun
12-18-17, 10:49
I haven't had a paid membership in a while, so my sugaring has been slow. I may start back up again in the new year. The philly area and suburbs seemed like a good territory, lots of college-aged girls from all the schools in the area. Timing can be critical, after the holidays they may have bills to pay up, or they may be planning a spring break trip and need funds.
Come on guys, there's got to be some of you in the Philly sugar bowl. I know its tough to share when you find a good one, but let us in on the missed ones too!
Any intel on this one?
Xxgoldie: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/83269bac-6d9c-4cb9-a78a-c0e4ea3f4368.
Planning to contact her.
Dead thread,
I can assure you I am older than most of you, losing hair, got little game, etc.
However, I am tucking two 20+ year old hotties, one w model looks and killer smile.
You can do it by sticking to basics:
Treat this like a regular date.
Be a gentleman.
Be respectful. She is not an escort, she will say no.
Make sure she is having a good time.
Remember to provide an allowance.
Not that complicated.
Syberman2006
01-21-18, 15:26
Dead thread,
I can assure you I am older than most of you, losing hair, got little game, etc.
However, I am tucking two 20+ year old hotties, one w model looks and killer smile.
You can do it by sticking to basics:
Treat this like a regular date.
Be a gentleman.
Be respectful. She is not an escort, she will say no.
Make sure she is having a good time.
Remember to provide an allowance.
Not that complicated.I am getting old, got one former dancer, young girl 24, still pretty gained a bit of weight from her dancing days. She basically wants to see one guy, you are correct, know what you want to pay and stick to it. Keep your head up, some try shit etc. If she has a good time and you do its a win-win!
Agree try making it as much like a regular date. I take her out to the place she likes 2-3 times a week, cost only $10-$20. This is factored into my calculations.
Watch the one who want money for nothing!
StormRanger
01-21-18, 17:40
Tinder is a free app for your phone. I saw my son using it to meet girls. Make a profile and set it up for distance, age range, etc. It will show potential matches, then you swipe right to "like" or left if you don't. When you get a match, it let's you message her.
I set mine up with an upper body pic, and a description saying that I'm looking for a SB. I'm in my 50's and I've had a few college freshmen riding my dick in a dark parking lot. One was amazingly hot and wet after we made out for a while. She said she wasn't a virgin, but was so so tight.
New semester starting, can't wait!
If that's your thing, this may be for you.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/f928d7c9-10cb-4002-b3f5-6f55c5d31453
No kissing, no oral, prefers doggie. Took her out for food and drinks. Asked for $175 but you can talk her down.
Would repeat if she was into kissing and oral.
I'm going to be visiting PHL next month and have been doing some heavy fishing.
Anyone care to trade notes?
I'm lucky enough to have a gorgeous one to trade. Pm if you have the same.
Any members who remember this petite ginger with glasses and a perfect body please PM me to see if she is still active. Even if she's not, lets discuss.
Met a stunning tiny Asian girl. She dressed nicely and provided outstanding GFE service. Spotted her at F and Allegheny. I waited for her closer to G St after I saw her walking east. I only asked for her # but was pleasantly surprised when she asked if I had time now! I have a # but she has a sugar daddy and asked that I be discreet. I'll message her this week and keep you posted. She is 22, long black hair, can't be more then 4'10". 90 lbs. Said she is from S Jersey and has been a dancer. Service was top notch. 9 out of 10 on looks, 9 out of ten on hygiene. 8 out of 10 on service.
Let's get this forum active. I can't be the only guy in Philly who finds most of the street girls and escorts to be far below average, and who likes to spend the night with beautiful and intelligent college girls for 2-300 per meet.
I have a regular SB right now so I haven't been all that active on Seeking lately. And of course, the problem with sharing intel about SA girls is that the really good ones don't usually stick around all that long. They often find an ongoing arrangement and leave the site. But when I was living in the midwest, the local forum was great for sharing intel, both the good ones and the scammers, so we could all save time.
I know this girl is real. I never met her but she's asking 400 per meet. Some searching will show she also has a page on Model Mayhem. She's been looking for a while so maybe she'll be willing to negotiate.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a6a51762-d573-4abd-80e4-3652830c9319
I didn't meet this one either, but I found her social media and she seems to be real. It's been a little while since we talked, but she was ok with 200 per meet.
https://www.seeking.com/member/36c94967-ccf1-459d-8f6b-7c3a6fa68ca5
I didn't follow through with this one because I thought her expectations were a bit high, I think she wanted 500. She may be willing to negotiate but before I had a chance to try, I met my current SB so I bailed on this one.
https://www.seeking.com/member/ee4ce3f5-0f79-46ba-812f-04d627e17ab6
This one has unrealistic expectations, she wants 1000 per meet.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0a5babf8-f121-4c92-9760-24765d45eb35
This one wants 400, I never met her and didn't try to negotiate because I didn't get a great vibe from her and I don't think we share any interests. She looks tall and slim though, which I like.
https://www.seeking.com/member/1e2eee99-cac2-4188-8f3c-6a164f688d11
I'll renew my membership probably after the holidays. My current SB is in her last semester of school so when she's done, she'll leave town and I'll be looking again. So I'll have better intel then.
I completely agree that the game is very weak with the escorts and streets. The only thing I can't handle is the sign up and credit card bullshit on the SA type sites. Can you use a pre-paid card and remain anonymous?
Let's get this forum active. I can't be the only guy in Philly who finds most of the street girls and escorts to be far below average, and who likes to spend the night with beautiful and intelligent college girls for 2-300 per meet.
I have a regular SB right now so I haven't been all that active on Seeking lately. And of course, the problem with sharing intel about SA girls is that the really good ones don't usually stick around all that long. They often find an ongoing arrangement and leave the site. But when I was living in the midwest, the local forum was great for sharing intel, both the good ones and the scammers, so we could all save time.
I know this girl is real. I never met her but she's asking 400 per meet. Some searching will show she also has a page on Model Mayhem. She's been looking for a while so maybe she'll be willing to negotiate.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a6a51762-d573-4abd-80e4-3652830c9319
I didn't meet this one either, but I found her social media and she seems to be real. It's been a little while since we talked, but she was ok with 200 per meet.
https://www.seeking.com/member/36c94967-ccf1-459d-8f6b-7c3a6fa68ca5
I didn't follow through with this one because I thought her expectations were a bit high, I think she wanted 500. She may be willing to negotiate but before I had a chance to try, I met my current SB so I bailed on this one.
https://www.seeking.com/member/ee4ce3f5-0f79-46ba-812f-04d627e17ab6
This one has unrealistic expectations, she wants 1000 per meet.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0a5babf8-f121-4c92-9760-24765d45eb35
This one wants 400, I never met her and didn't try to negotiate because I didn't get a great vibe from her and I don't think we share any interests. She looks tall and slim though, which I like.
https://www.seeking.com/member/1e2eee99-cac2-4188-8f3c-6a164f688d11
I'll renew my membership probably after the holidays. My current SB is in her last semester of school so when she's done, she'll leave town and I'll be looking again. So I'll have better intel then..
I completely agree that the game is very weak with the escorts and streets. The only thing I can't handle is the sign up and credit card bullshit on the SA type sites. Can you use a pre-paid card and remain anonymous?
.I'm not a member at the moment and things do keep changing. Honestly Seeking is a mess, they keep making changes and it's usually for the worst. But I've had much better luck there than finding SBs in the wild. I've tried tinder and I've had good luck finding normal girls, even some college students with daddy issues, and I've seen some hardened pros, but I haven't found anyone who I'd classify as an SB. I'm not suggesting sugar dating isn't prostitution, but there's a big difference between a former BP girl and a college student who has maybe only done this a few times before, if at all.
Using prepaid cards was always a hassle with SA. They use some overseas credit card processor, so many cards didn't work. I had been using PayPal. I made a burner PayPal account under a burner email, and funded it with prepaid gift cards. As it stands now, if you sign up on the website they want you to do a recurring membership which you can cancel at any time I believe. Not sure if they've changed credit card processors. But if you use the android or iPhone app, you can pay with google pay, which you can also easily fund with gift cards.
So it's a hassle but definitely possible. And I've NEVER used my real name or email with Seeking. They're bound to get hacked eventually, just like Ashley Madison did.
As you may be aware, the Richmond, VA thread on sugarbabies is something of a standard reference for guys all over, not just in that area.
I had all but given up on mongering in the US. Too many risks, not enough reward. I travel quite a bit and have had some great experiences in places like Brazil, the Philippines, etc. And I often schedule layovers in Germany so I can hit the FKK clubs there. But since I found SA a few years ago, I haven't even been back to Germany. I may go early next year, but I'm not looking forward to it the way I used to.
I talked to this girl and found her social media, so she's definitely real. She's ready to go for 300 per meet. She's not quite as thin as I like, but she's got a great ass, and her face is pretty. Also great lips. I mostly passed because I had better options at the time. She seems like a really sweet girl and her story checks out. I never tried to negotiate the price but she may be flexible.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7a0f8392-b1fe-40f9-8a63-fc3a51033fc2
Rubber Ducky Boston
11-01-18, 17:11
What do you guys do for messaging? I'm an okay looking guy if I do say so myself, on the younger end of the SD spectrum. I have one black SB right now I'm happy with for 250 a meet, but I wanted to get a few more, but I'm not finding it easy to get women to respond to my messages more than a couple times. I'm not being rude or anything either, just straightforward. I usually get a very high response rate for my first message, but the moment I try to move the conversation off the site and onto texting to discuss the details of an arrangement, I get ghosted. I doubt its the money either. I made a fake female account to check out my competition and I'm definitely doing much better financially than the vast majority of guys on the site.
What do you guys do for messaging? I'm an okay looking guy if I do say so myself, on the younger end of the SD spectrum. I have one black SB right now I'm happy with for 250 a meet, but I wanted to get a few more, but I'm not finding it easy to get women to respond to my messages more than a couple times. I'm not being rude or anything either, just straightforward. I usually get a very high response rate for my first message, but the moment I try to move the conversation off the site and onto texting to discuss the details of an arrangement, I get ghosted. I doubt its the money either. I made a fake female account to check out my competition and I'm definitely doing much better financially than the vast majority of guys on the site.It's hard to say why this is happening without seeing your messages or knowing what your approach is. Some girls will just flake and ghost no matter what you do. It's frustrating. But usually if I can get a few messages back and forth, they're wiling to text at that point. And if they keep texting I can usually get them to meet for coffee.
I treat SA like a normal dating site for the most part, but I'll mention in my initial message that I'm generous or something to that effect. Then if she asks what I'm looking for I'll usually mention an allowance of some kind. The main thing is not to offend her and not to seem creepy. The main thing is to keep her engaged, ask her interesting questions and be interesting and courteous. I always ask at least one question in my messages and texts, so she'll have something to respond to. That seems to be really important with the girls on SA.
But it also depends on what kind of girl you're talking to. If you're talking to a more experienced SBs or one of the more hardened escorts, then if you don't get to the financial discussion quickly they'll ghost. Although those girls usually bring it up themselves. I won't argue the semantics, anyone hooking up for money is engaging in prostitution. But the college girls and girls who have had no arrangements before, or maybe only one or two, definitely don't see themselves as escorts. So they may be easily offended if you're too forward in your discussions. Those are the girls I try to message, so that's why I take the approach I mentioned.
Stick with it. SA takes some time and sometimes the girls make you want to rip your hair out in frustration. But it's worth it when you find a really good one.
Rubber Ducky Boston
11-02-18, 15:34
I don't go back and forth too much, is maybe what I was thinking. I don't like to waste time, so I'll send an initial message, usually something that probably generates a chuckle based on something on her profile, and then in the next 2-3 messages I try to move things to texting and specific arrangement details. Maybe I need to take more time and nurture the relationship along or something? But that's not really what I'm looking for. If I wanted to commit a bunch of time to that, I'd just use one of the many other free normal dating apps out there instead of trying to find a SB and short circuit the path to hooking up.
I do definitely see what you're getting at about the whole college girl thing. They are the type of women I'm shooting for, and I definitely do get the vibe that they don't want to be treated as escorts or anything like that, even though, lets be honest, they're getting paid for intimacy at the end of the day. I guess I got to play along though and pretend its something more than it is though.
When you say you're "generous" my concern with a message like that would be that then the girl might expect you to offer an unreasonable dollar figure and see you as an easy mark or something. My normal offers are between $$ and $$ per meet depending on how attracted I am to the girl, and what other expenses I might need to cover (e. G. If she can host, I can save on hotel costs, if she doesn't want care about date activities, I can save some money, etc.). Would you qualify that as "generous" for the philly metro region?
I don't go back and forth too much, is maybe what I was thinking. I don't like to waste time, so I'll send an initial message, usually something that probably generates a chuckle based on something on her profile, and then in the next 2-3 messages I try to move things to texting and specific arrangement details. Maybe I need to take more time and nurture the relationship along or something? But that's not really what I'm looking for. If I wanted to commit a bunch of time to that, I'd just use one of the many other free normal dating apps out there instead of trying to find a SB and short circuit the path to hooking up.
I do definitely see what you're getting at about the whole college girl thing. They are the type of women I'm shooting for, and I definitely do get the vibe that they don't want to be treated as escorts or anything like that, even though, lets be honest, they're getting paid for intimacy at the end of the day. I guess I got to play along though and pretend its something more than it is though.
When you say you're "generous" my concern with a message like that would be that then the girl might expect you to offer an unreasonable dollar figure and see you as an easy mark or something. My normal offers are between $$ and $$ per meet depending on how attracted I am to the girl, and what other expenses I might need to cover (e. G. If she can host, I can save on hotel costs, if she doesn't want care about date activities, I can save some money, etc.). Would you qualify that as "generous" for the philly metro region?Ideally I try to get their number within 3-4 messages (one way, or 6-8 total). But it depends on the situation, you just have to try to gauge her comfort level and interest. I don't take too much time with messaging. It's really hard to build a genuine connection via messaging or text so as with any other kind of dating, the main goal of messaging is to get her number. And the main goal of texting is to get her to meet.
Not sure if I agree with you on the idea that if you're going to commit time, you should use a normal dating app. But it depends on you and what you're looking for. One can choose to use SA in different ways. If you're on SA looking for escorts or older women, it's really easy and fast to find them. But if you're looking for the best looking young college girls, it is a lot of work and I'd say that using SA takes just as much energy as a normal dating app. The difference is that the allowance allows you to date out of your league, in terms of looks and age.
I'm in my late 30's but can pass for early 30's. I can easily date fairly attractive women in their late 20's and early 30's. But on SA, with an allowance, I can see very attractive 18-24 year old college students who, for the most part, wouldn't be available to me on a normal dating site. Most 20-year-old college students would never even see my tinder profile and if they did, they'd likely swipe right based on my age alone. SA is most definitely NOT the easiest way to find a quick fuck. But it is probably the best venue to find very attractive and low-volume girls. The best girls on SA easily rival very high end NYC escorts asking for a grand an hour. Of course there are some really nice girl-next-door types too.
Of course I don't see much difference between SBs and escorts, other than the fact that you can get a much better value from SBs. Of course, there are some girls on SA not looking for an allowance, or who are open to vanilla dating if you get along well. I've had a few freebies and even dated a few girls I met there. But those are rare and you definitely need to put in some time. I had two nice dating relationships on SA and a few hookups / fwbs.
I usually start at 250 and maybe go to 300, but that's for what I consider to be the best looking students on SA. When I was in the midwest I saw most girls for 200, but the best girls in Philly seem to be asking a bit more, which is fair. I don't think that really qualifies as generous, but no one has ever called me out on it. The girls looking for the really high numbers, $500-1000 per meet or a high monthly allowance, usually mention that right up front and I thank them for their time and move on. If you're looking for more of the UTR escort type, then perhaps being more up front is a good idea. But here's why I like that language when hitting up new SBs. It's not at all legally incriminating nor will it get your SA account deleted. It won't turn off girls who are looking to vanilla date a more successful guy. And finally, it's not sleazy and won't scare off girls who are doing this for the first time.
Pretty much every girl I've met on SA has told me they hate it when a guy's first or second message is "let's go to my hotel for $xxx", but pretty much all of them have been willing to go back to my place for the same amount after meeting in person for coffee or a drink.
Rubber Ducky Boston
11-05-18, 17:18
I was thinking about SA from the perspective of. I have little time but money to spend, I'm going to short circuit the whole "hookup" process with money and meet and sleep with 18-24 year old beautiful women, who, like you said, would probably be out of my league. I kinda figured I'd be paying for speeding up the process and improving my odds w / beautiful women. I'm a little bit younger than you, so I guess I COULD potentially hook up normally with some of these women (though I'd still probably be a bit too old for them) but with a bunch of difficulty and a low chance of success and high time / energy commitment.
I figured by spending money, I'd lower the difficulty and time / energy commitment and increase my chances, and maybe it has, but not by any significant amount. I guess it gets my foot in the door, but I still have to work my ass off to close the deal, which is what I was looking to avoid. Like I said before, I do already have a sugar relationship for 250 ppm which I'm happy with, and I'd be willing to pay more than that for more of the right women, but I kinda just figured it would be a lot easier and faster to find these relationships since that's what I thought the money was for.
I'm forward about wanting to set up an arrangement with women in my messages but I don't explicitly mention the intimacy portion until its over text, so I don't really know why I'm being ghosted so often on messages after a couple back and forths.
In any case thanks for your wisdom and wealth of knowledge!
I was thinking about SA from the perspective of. I have little time but money to spend, I'm going to short circuit the whole "hookup" process with money and meet and sleep with 18-24 year old beautiful women, who, like you said, would probably be out of my league. I kinda figured I'd be paying for speeding up the process and improving my odds w / beautiful women. I'm a little bit younger than you, so I guess I COULD potentially hook up normally with some of these women (though I'd still probably be a bit too old for them) but with a bunch of difficulty and a low chance of success and high time / energy commitment.
I figured by spending money, I'd lower the difficulty and time / energy commitment and increase my chances, and maybe it has, but not by any significant amount. I guess it gets my foot in the door, but I still have to work my ass off to close the deal, which is what I was looking to avoid. Like I said before, I do already have a sugar relationship for 250 ppm which I'm happy with, and I'd be willing to pay more than that for more of the right women, but I kinda just figured it would be a lot easier and faster to find these relationships since that's what I thought the money was for.
I'm forward about wanting to set up an arrangement with women in my messages but I don't explicitly mention the intimacy portion until its over text, so I don't really know why I'm being ghosted so often on messages after a couple back and forths.
In any case thanks for your wisdom and wealth of knowledge!Sometimes it works out that way. One of my favorite SBs was a 19-year-old college student. I wrote to her one evening. She had replied in the morning, and during the day we messaged then texted. We met that night and hooked up. She's one of the most beautiful girls I've been with. Blond hair, 5'9", slim but with nice tits, and a truly beautiful face. I almost bailed on her because she asked if she could bring a friend to the meet and greet. But I'm really glad I didn't. I saw her often until I moved out of town, and I still see her once in a while when we're in the same area. I've had a few other girls who I met and hooked up with within a day or two. You do need some amount of flexibility and you need to be ready to jump in if you meet a good one.
Another time I messaged a girl, moved to text, then met her for coffee the next morning. She was almost an hour late. This is why I often schedule meet and greets for coffee at a place I like. Even if she doesn't show I'll have a good coffee and breakfast. I would usually not wait an hour for a girl, but she looked beautiful in her photos. When she showed up, I was finished my coffee and I was about to leave. She was a mess. She was high, smelled like stale weed, maybe a little drunk, and still had her makeup on from partying the night before. She was a bit of a narcissist and a wannabe model, but she was also friendly and sweet. She was so out of it that when we left the coffeeshop she literally walked right into a parked car and fell over. I was thinking I'd never see her again. But later that day she texted me, apologized, and we made a date for the next evening. She also turned out to be really great, and she was also among the most beautiful girls I've been with.
I guess my point is that an arrangement can speed things up if you meet the right person. But it still takes time to find the good ones.
Depending on how young you are, some girls may be ghosting because a LOT of the very young guys on SA are just looking to hook up for free. Perhaps in your case, you should mention an allowance a little earlier so they know you're serious. But honestly, a lot of girls on SA are flakes, it goes with the territory. It may be helpful to pay attention to the local college schedules. If it's mid-terms or exam week, for example, it's going to be more difficult.
I couldn't verify if this girl is real. But we talked a bit on the site and I got her number. I'd be curious if any of you saw her. She was ready to go for $300. But I had just met another girl at the time so I passed.
https://www.seeking.com/member/11bcf514-f161-4ba8-9aad-d40f205d7465
Rubber Ducky Boston
11-06-18, 15:15
Yeah when I made a fake female profile, I saw my competition, which is a bunch of people in their 20's definitely without the financial means to be supporting a sugar hobby, so I can see why they might think being younger I might be the same. But I just want to be careful about hinting at money too soon, since 1) I want to do PPM which I believe seeking will ban you for so I try to discuss that via text, and 2) again I feel like some of the younger women on the site don't want to be thought of as escorts even though they basically are, so I don't know if bringing up money will turn them off.
Yeah when I made a fake female profile, I saw my competition, which is a bunch of people in their 20's definitely without the financial means to be supporting a sugar hobby, so I can see why they might think being younger I might be the same. But I just want to be careful about hinting at money too soon, since 1) I want to do PPM which I believe seeking will ban you for so I try to discuss that via text, and 2) again I feel like some of the younger women on the site don't want to be thought of as escorts even though they basically are, so I don't know if bringing up money will turn them off.It's pretty simple to make a chick profile? Never tried, but do they get automatic access that we don't?
Rubber Ducky Boston
11-07-18, 16:05
Wasn't hard for me. Dunno if I got lucky or whatever. Wouldn't let me message people though, which I wanted to do to message myself to test how that worked on both ends, as well as favoriting a profile.
BTW thanks for all the advice and stuff, I've changed game up a bit, and instead of just trying to move right to phone number immediately after 1-2 messages, I'm spending maybe 5-10 more messages before asking for a number, and making it clear, though not explicitly, that I'm willing to pay for intimate dates and I'm not just on the site to try to get free hookups. This lets the woman feel a bit more comfortable with me I think, and makes it feel less transactional to them (ironically despite the fact that I'm making the $ aspect of it clear), and they don't think I'm just looking for a warm hole to park my junior into.
In the past 2 days, I've scheduled too many m&gs to honestly hope to go to all of them, so things are looking up. Just needed to change things up a little tiny bit.
PilotJones
11-10-18, 08:55
Has anyone seen this one? Have been in contact with her for awhile she's pretty young but for the most part knows her stuff just a little hesistant to pull the trigger. Thank you gentleman!
https://www.seeking.com/member/662e5328-1391-8d79-ae19-0632d171f436
Is this one a pro?
https://www.seeking.com/member/b9cd335e-1b60-4a7c-85df-39e75436266e
If yalls looking for philly area with discretion, where do you do the intro meet? I heard the temple area has the largest concentration of young 20's.
Rubber Ducky Boston
11-15-18, 18:03
How do you guys find enough new blood to message? Maybe my standards are too high, but I'm getting tired of seeing the same 30 or so women over and over again with my search criteria on SA. A bunch of them aren't really serious about doing anything. Many have unreasonable expectations. Some have no means of transportation (I live in the burbs). Of the few remaining, I've messaged all the ones I'm interested in, and there aren't enough new members joining up regularly to make the site worthwhile.
How do you guys find enough new blood to message? Maybe my standards are too high, but I'm getting tired of seeing the same 30 or so women over and over again with my search criteria on SA. A bunch of them aren't really serious about doing anything. Many have unreasonable expectations. Some have no means of transportation (I live in the burbs). Of the few remaining, I've messaged all the ones I'm interested in, and there aren't enough new members joining up regularly to make the site worthwhile.I found it to be the same. I'm looking for someone more my age early 30's and their aren't many options. I've had extended off site convos with several of them but they don't seem to driven. The younger girls are very driven to make $ but scare me.
Can anyone make any recommends?
Apothecary
12-29-18, 02:05
So just wondering if you had any luck beyond m&g.
Wasn't hard for me. Dunno if I got lucky or whatever. Wouldn't let me message people though, which I wanted to do to message myself to test how that worked on both ends, as well as favoriting a profile.
BTW thanks for all the advice and stuff, I've changed game up a bit, and instead of just trying to move right to phone number immediately after 1-2 messages, I'm spending maybe 5-10 more messages before asking for a number, and making it clear, though not explicitly, that I'm willing to pay for intimate dates and I'm not just on the site to try to get free hookups. This lets the woman feel a bit more comfortable with me I think, and makes it feel less transactional to them (ironically despite the fact that I'm making the $ aspect of it clear), and they don't think I'm just looking for a warm hole to park my junior into.
In the past 2 days, I've scheduled too many m&gs to honestly hope to go to all of them, so things are looking up. Just needed to change things up a little tiny bit.
Apothecary
12-29-18, 02:23
I agree with most of what you said. It's the game of patience and follow your instinct in my opinion. You don't wana regret if your instinct asked you to leave to me, I am a bit scared of 18-20 crowd, and just feel a bit safer with 21-28 crowd. What I have also seen to be working is the longer date incentive, meaning lunch / dinner + activity+ home run. If someone buys into that then that's almost like 90% success guaranteed. M&Gs are tricky especially w / o allowance. Success there is less than 40%. The biggest challenge is to figure out Pro vs true SB. At times one also needs to think if that indeed matters if you find the right one who is willing to spend an evening with you but not at an hourly rate. At the end of the day, all that matters is the experience you are able to get. If that meets your expectation in terms of looks, quality of conversation and with passionate ending. You may need to have your own scale for these three buckets and see which one is more important.
Sometimes it works out that way. One of my favorite SBs was a 19-year-old college student. I wrote to her one evening. She had replied in the morning, and during the day we messaged then texted. We met that night and hooked up. She's one of the most beautiful girls I've been with. Blond hair, 5'9", slim but with nice tits, and a truly beautiful face. I almost bailed on her because she asked if she could bring a friend to the meet and greet. But I'm really glad I didn't. I saw her often until I moved out of town, and I still see her once in a while when we're in the same area. I've had a few other girls who I met and hooked up with within a day or two. You do need some amount of flexibility and you need to be ready to jump in if you meet a good one.
Another time I messaged a girl, moved to text, then met her for coffee the next morning. She was almost an hour late. This is why I often schedule meet and greets for coffee at a place I like. Even if she doesn't show I'll have a good coffee and breakfast. I would usually not wait an hour for a girl, but she looked beautiful in her photos. When she showed up, I was finished my coffee and I was about to leave. She was a mess. She was high, smelled like stale weed, maybe a little drunk, and still had her makeup on from partying the night before. She was a bit of a narcissist and a wannabe model, but she was also friendly and sweet. She was so out of it that when we left the coffeeshop she literally walked right into a parked car and fell over. I was thinking I'd never see her again. But later that day she texted me, apologized, and we made a date for the next evening. She also turned out to be really great, and she was also among the most beautiful girls I've been with.
I guess my point is that an arrangement can speed things up if you meet the right person..
Apothecary
12-29-18, 13:10
Any info on these? Texting convo with all. But not sure yet.
Asking for 4, wants to skip lunch / coffee.
https://www.seeking.com/member/21ba001a-f136-f0b3-9f11-956ac76d8a7e
Felt like a pro?
https://www.seeking.com/member/0d573153-93bb-4c99-9c6e-cafc0bb35679
Not sure about yet.
https://www.seeking.com/member/751e442a-c093-bc51-49b3-318e7e390b26
https://www.seeking.com/member/196dbebf-22d9-420b-8f08-03f12b7b7529
Total Flake: last minute drop out.
https://www.seeking.com/member/9a6302ce-0c14-47ff-9a68-839cd6289ce6
Rubber Ducky Boston
12-29-18, 14:50
So just wondering if you had any luck beyond m&g.Didn't go that well hahaha. Over 1/2 the scheduled M&G flaked or were absurdly late. I did end up seeing some of them intimately, but most of them weren't worth it at all. Attitude issues, poor hygiene, bad in bed, untrustworthy, etc. I did meet one somewhat regularly who is beautiful, fun, etc. But I guess its a curse. I get bored of seeing the same women repeatedly no matter how great they are.
My premium account's run out now, and seeing as I've messaged every single SB on the site that I'm attracted to in my region, I'm going to take a break from sugaring for a while. Pop my head back up in a while, hopefully there are some new members by then.
I'm trying out vanilla dating / hooking up apps for now but its tough sledding there. Hopefully once I've built my 6-pack by the spring, I'll see a bit more success there.
Any info on these? Texting convo with all. But not sure yet.
Asking for 4, wants to skip lunch / coffee.
https://www.seeking.com/member/21ba001a-f136-f0b3-9f11-956ac76d8a7e
Felt like a pro?
https://www.seeking.com/member/0d573153-93bb-4c99-9c6e-cafc0bb35679
Not sure about yet.
https://www.seeking.com/member/751e442a-c093-bc51-49b3-318e7e390b26
https://www.seeking.com/member/196dbebf-22d9-420b-8f08-03f12b7b7529
Total Flake: last minute drop out.
https://www.seeking.com/member/9a6302ce-0c14-47ff-9a68-839cd6289ce6I spoke to rayOfsunShinee and she seemed legit but I didn't pursue. She did say she liked anal too. Let me know if you have luck.
I also pursued this one for a while https://www.seeking.com/member/94205ea9-34aa-40c8-86fe-f069c43ef603 but she only seems to check in occasionally. Has anyone met her?
Any info on these? Texting convo with all. But not sure yet.
Asking for 4, wants to skip lunch / coffee.
https://www.seeking.com/member/21ba001a-f136-f0b3-9f11-956ac76d8a7e
Felt like a pro?
https://www.seeking.com/member/0d573153-93bb-4c99-9c6e-cafc0bb35679
Not sure about yet.
https://www.seeking.com/member/751e442a-c093-bc51-49b3-318e7e390b26
https://www.seeking.com/member/196dbebf-22d9-420b-8f08-03f12b7b7529
Total Flake: last minute drop out.
https://www.seeking.com/member/9a6302ce-0c14-47ff-9a68-839cd6289ce6Aubrey-Lynn seems like a pro to me, she wanted to skip the meet and greet. She agreed to 300 but then started in with asking how long we'd be, saying she had a busy schedule, etc. So I bailed because she seemed a little too professional for me. She's been on the site quite a while now. I think I spoke with her about a year ago.
I spoke with rayOfsunShinee, she wanted 300 and seems legit. Perhaps also a bit of a pro. But her body isn't attractive IMO so that's why I passed. I prefer tall and slim. She's quite curvy. She does seem like fun though if you find her attractive.
I haven't had contact with the others you mentioned.
Aubrey-Lynn seems like a pro to me, she wanted to skip the meet and greet. She agreed to 300 but then started in with asking how long we'd be, saying she had a busy schedule, etc. So I bailed because she seemed a little too professional for me. She's been on the site quite a while now. I think I spoke with her about a year ago.
I spoke with rayOfsunShinee, she wanted 300 and seems legit. Perhaps also a bit of a pro. But her body isn't attractive IMO so that's why I passed. I prefer tall and slim. She's quite curvy. She does seem like fun though if you find her attractive.
I haven't had contact with the others you mentioned.How about this MILF? https://www.seeking.com/member/2f3a7bc5-b502-4dd1-9746-909219d7f7ea.
How about this MILF? https://www.seeking.com/member/2f3a7bc5-b502-4dd1-9746-909219d7f7ea.I haven't spoken with her, she's not my type. I'm on SA for the college students, 18-22 and preferably tall and slim, and no girls with kids. I can pass for my early 30's and so I can easily hook up with good looking women in their 30's for free. But there's always so much baggage and drama with that. So I tend to date younger women, and for arrangements they need to be significantly better looking than the girls I could attract for free. We all have different taste, but I wouldn't date this one for free.
Out of curiosity, has anyone had contact with these girls? I'm writing or texting with them all, I'll post if / when I have first-hand info to share.
Flaky with messaging, but I know she's real since I found her social media:
https://www.seeking.com/member/1034089c-1432-4514-8ffb-798d32533a3b
Seems eager to meet. I'm always hesitant with dancers, since their job is to separate guys from their money. Bit she seems like a nice girl and seems open to a meet and greet:
https://www.seeking.com/member/7b236f74-8d7e-477a-a35f-be525511e53b
I just got this one's number, no other info yet:
https://www.seeking.com/member/b2a2299a-21b4-4b24-9ba3-c687b95977d1
Out of curiosity, has anyone had contact with these girls? I'm writing or texting with them all, I'll post if / when I have first-hand info to share.
Flaky with messaging, but I know she's real since I found her social media:
https://www.seeking.com/member/1034089c-1432-4514-8ffb-798d32533a3b
Seems eager to meet. I'm always hesitant with dancers, since their job is to separate guys from their money. Bit she seems like a nice girl and seems open to a meet and greet:
https://www.seeking.com/member/7b236f74-8d7e-477a-a35f-be525511e53b
I just got this one's number, no other info yet:
https://www.seeking.com/member/b2a2299a-21b4-4b24-9ba3-c687b95977d1I am going on a date with this one today, calls herself Kat. Any of you tried it?
https://www.seeking.com/member/09d3042c-318e-448a-8ff6-2c336ae854e3
FreeSpiritFet
01-08-19, 16:34
I'm noob in this, just wonder when you first time meet them, do you have to pay them?
And do you discuss sex and let them know what you expecting?
Or just follow the flow.
Apothecary
01-09-19, 00:59
No Pay for meet and greet, almost 99% will not meet you again.
If meet and greet goes well then meet again and start the formal arrangement with bells and whistles. Or you can just go with the flow and see if your meet and greet turns into more fun and your arrangement begins on that first date itself.
Remember, it's your time (hr you make) that's also valuable probably more than a SB's time. So don't get into that "bla bla of my time. ". There will be some hotties who won't meet you w / o agreeing for compensation for first meet. In that case, it's your desperation that will be on call and you must do your best to make sure you both agree that arrangement will be fulfilled only if it's a home run.
Start your 101 in Richmond forum.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not
I'm noob in this, just wonder when you first time meet them, do you have to pay them?
And do you discuss sex and let them know what you expecting?
Or just follow the flow.
Apothecary
01-09-19, 01:02
Tiny Angel: if I recall then for sure a GPS And that also with "Eight Stars" per meet for home run. I am surprised if you did get a meet / greet option. Good luck if decide to go forward.
Out of curiosity, has anyone had contact with these girls? I'm writing or texting with them all, I'll post if / when I have first-hand info to share.
Flaky with messaging, but I know she's real since I found her social media:
https://www.seeking.com/member/1034089c-1432-4514-8ffb-798d32533a3b
Seems eager to meet. I'm always hesitant with dancers, since their job is to separate guys from their money. Bit she seems like a nice girl and seems open to a meet and greet:
https://www.seeking.com/member/7b236f74-8d7e-477a-a35f-be525511e53b
I just got this one's number, no other info yet:
https://www.seeking.com/member/b2a2299a-21b4-4b24-9ba3-c687b95977d1
Apothecary
01-09-19, 01:05
Let us know how it went. There are some scary ones on the other side of the Delaware River. YMMV.
I am going on a date with this one today, calls herself Kat. Any of you tried it?
https://www.seeking.com/member/09d3042c-318e-448a-8ff6-2c336ae854e3
FreeSpiritFet
01-09-19, 11:58
Thank you so much!
That is a lot to learn.
No Pay for meet and greet, almost 99% will not meet you again.
If meet and greet goes well then meet again and start the formal arrangement with bells and whistles. Or you can just go with the flow and see if your meet and greet turns into more fun and your arrangement begins on that first date itself.
Remember, it's your time (hr you make) that's also valuable probably more than a SB's time. So don't get into that "bla bla of my time. ". There will be some hotties who won't meet you w / o agreeing for compensation for first meet. In that case, it's your desperation that will be on call and you must do your best to make sure you both agree that arrangement will be fulfilled only if it's a home run.
Start your 101 in Richmond forum.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not
FreeSpiritFet
01-09-19, 13:15
1. do you pay just meet and greet or hangout mean no sex.
2. if they agree, hangout and sex after, what is the market price for this at philly area LOL.
Let us know how it went. There are some scary ones on the other side of the Delaware River. YMMV.She started with the flip the script bullshit. Was going to take her lingirie shopping, then she couldn't leave hjouse because waiting on a package she had to sign for, the says only has an hour until aunt came back, then says she wants 250 on first meet. I told her no thanks, you obviously just playin games.
She started with the flip the script bullshit. Was going to take her lingirie shopping, then she couldn't leave hjouse because waiting on a package she had to sign for, the says only has an hour until aunt came back, then says she wants 250 on first meet. I told her no thanks, you obviously just playin games.My instinct is she's at least semipro. No time for the shopping just wanted 250 for an hour at her place. Not worth it IMO but I have a gut feeling she was legit. Just less of a sugarbaby and more of an escort.
Apothecary
01-10-19, 01:14
That's what I was afraid of. If it makes you feel any better, you are not the only one who suffered with their BS. Somehow the other side of Philly in NJ, there are bunch of scammers. Most of them in early 20's and easy to spot by looking at their profiles. You may also wana be mindful if you are meeting in Runnemede NJ / Deptford Mall area. There are a bunch of real time scammers / robbers with boyfriends / baby fathers out there. JUST STAY AWAY. If they are not willing to meet in Philly then move on. Don't get into sad stories of no vehicles, tight schedules, multiple jobs crap. That's just plain BS. Everyone knows how to get into city easily, if they don't then let them stay where they are.
She started with the flip the script bullshit. Was going to take her lingirie shopping, then she couldn't leave hjouse because waiting on a package she had to sign for, the says only has an hour until aunt came back, then says she wants 250 on first meet. I told her no thanks, you obviously just playin games.
That's what I was afraid of. If it makes you feel any better, you are not the only one who suffered with their BS. Somehow the other side of Philly in NJ, there are bunch of scammers. Most of them in early 20's and easy to spot by looking at their profiles. You may also wana be mindful if you are meeting in Runnemede NJ / Deptford Mall area. There are a bunch of real time scammers / robbers with boyfriends / baby fathers out there. JUST STAY AWAY. If they are not willing to meet in Philly then move on. Don't get into sad stories of no vehicles, tight schedules, multiple jobs crap. That's just plain BS. Everyone knows how to get into city easily, if they don't then let them stay where they are.LOL I don't understand why south jersey would be any different than philly but this girl from cherry hill wanted $30 cashapp'd before meeting for anything I wanted. So yeah obviously a scam.
https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/4189dd68-e037-41e9-a9b2-1e21a9cf13a7
That's what I was afraid of. If it makes you feel any better, you are not the only one who suffered with their BS. Somehow the other side of Philly in NJ, there are bunch of scammers. Most of them in early 20's and easy to spot by looking at their profiles. You may also wana be mindful if you are meeting in Runnemede NJ / Deptford Mall area. There are a bunch of real time scammers / robbers with boyfriends / baby fathers out there. JUST STAY AWAY. If they are not willing to meet in Philly then move on. Don't get into sad stories of no vehicles, tight schedules, multiple jobs crap. That's just plain BS. Everyone knows how to get into city easily, if they don't then let them stay where they are.Sorry. Wrong link https://www.seeking.com/member/e403172a-d700-4af0-b344-71a90169eba8.
FreeSpiritFet
01-11-19, 10:36
I just started to use SA, and I get many reply.
One girl I'm talking to right seems very cool with anything I say. And I'm pretty sure make it clear like:
My ideal date would be get a coffee or drinks, so we can talk and see if there is any chemistry out there. If, if you decide to like me, would you like to have some intimacy at some where private? I like to be honest and straightforward. Hope you don't mind.
And her answer is: Yes that would be perfect!
So, what should I do next?
I mean, it seems not hard just schedule a meetup, but when we should I mentioned the money part, or I wait for her to ask it.
The best case scenario, we do meet and we go to fuck, but still not mention money, how much I should just give it to her?
Whats the market rate for a girl around 20,8+.
I have so much to learn.
Thanks.
FreeSpiritFet
01-11-19, 10:39
Holy Molly, I got too excited last night and send out the maxim amount emails. I guess I'm working hard. 90 bucks a month, I need get my money worth, right? LOL.
But who know what is the limit amount is? It seems like I can't even reply to messages now.
And how long this ban last?
Thanks.
Rubber Ducky Boston
01-11-19, 14:21
Tiny Angel: if I recall then for sure a GPS And that also with "Eight Stars" per meet for home run. I am surprised if you did get a meet / greet option. Good luck if decide to go forward.What does "GPS" mean?
Anyways I almost set up a meet w / Tiny Angel, but then I low-balled her I think and now she doesn't respond to my messages. Wasn't actually that low of an offer compared to most other SBs (4 "stars") but I get the feeling she gets paid a LOT of money by other people, so compared to what she usually makes, it was probably low. Too bad. I find her really attractive.
Found her on social media too. Her posts there seem to suggest she gets paid to travel by other SDs and stuff. So yeah definitely out of my budget.
FreeSpiritFet
01-11-19, 18:01
What is the fair offer you guys think?
She is a MILF, chunky, 24.
Good thing about her is very honest, get a place, no far from me LOL.
So, I really have wasted my time with Seeking. Com. I decided to see a girl yesterday that is a pro and posts once in a while. I chose to see her because she posts so rarely. Long story short, I went to see her for a HHR date and had some of the best sex of my life. She's bi-sexual and a freak. Great looking and an awesome personality. So after the date I asked if she had any interest in a SB / SD arrangement. We came to an agreement on $250 per date, minimum 2 dates per month. Dates to include but not limited to, public dinners, drinks, events, social activity. And physical play when and where I choose. Thats right, elevators, parking lots, shoipping malls dressing rooms whatever! No I will not share her info, sorry fellas. This one is mine.
Apothecary
01-14-19, 01:16
LOL GPS: Golden Pussy Syndrome.
I am not surprised why she stopped messaging you. Eight stars per meet is way beyond most of SDs. She is definitely attractive (7. 5/10 for sure) but what you don't know is what you will get out in your home run. In my mind, it's not the risk worth taking. SHE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE so move on and I am sure you can find a better one who will fit in your stars. Your stars are not low by any standards.
What does "GPS" mean?
Anyways I almost set up a meet w / Tiny Angel, but then I low-balled her I think and now she doesn't respond to my messages. Wasn't actually that low of an offer compared to most other SBs (4 "stars") but I get the feeling she gets paid a LOT of money by other people, so compared to what she usually makes, it was probably low. Too bad. I find her really attractive.
Found her on social media too. Her posts there seem to suggest she gets paid to travel by other SDs and stuff. So yeah definitely out of my budget.
Apothecary
01-14-19, 01:24
Don't be too specific in SA messaging. These days, you can get banned from their site and your membership will be down the drain. What you mentioned in your prior post, if someone is ok with that then without mentioning the money part ask them to get to texting / emails and discuss more over there. Every once in a while you will run into a nut head who will try to report you to SA. And you definitely don't want your SA messages be a witness of that.
Since you can log in and see your membership active, I will get a day or two. It could be system auto detect. And try not to copy paste same message to every SB when you are sending the first message. If system detects multiple like say for eg. 20 same copy paste, it is likely to trigger spam alert. In 1-2 days you don't get that cleared then contact their customer service, tell them you are new and you don't know what happened. Be a bit careful in future and try typing somewhat different first message using keyboard. Avoid CTRL+C / CTRL+ V type keys for series of messages.
Good luck.
Holy Molly, I got too excited last night and send out the maxim amount emails. I guess I'm working hard. 90 bucks a month, I need get my money worth, right? LOL.
But who know what is the limit amount is? It seems like I can't even reply to messages now.
And how long this ban last?
Thanks.
Rubber Ducky Boston
01-14-19, 11:20
LOL GPS: Golden Pussy Syndrome.
I am not surprised why she stopped messaging you. Eight stars per meet is way beyond most of SDs. She is definitely attractive (7. 5/10 for sure) but what you don't know is what you will get out in your home run. In my mind, it's not the risk worth taking. SHE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE so move on and I am sure you can find a better one who will fit in your stars. Your stars are not low by any standards.Honestly I didn't see any others. I like super petite skinny chicks. She's a perfect match. You search SA by "slim" body type and over half are far from that. But it is what it is.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0a5babf8-f121-4c92-9760-24765d45eb35
Jenn2020 one wants 700-1000 per meet. She looks hot but I have far better things to do for a grand.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a8afdec7-845f-4aef-bed3-d6e2ec4fda01
Mespa started at 500, I talked to her a little while back. I have a feeling that's negotiable, but she wanted a paid meet and greet first which is a no-go for me. I offered to do the meet and greet then start the arrangement immediately after if we click, and she wouldn't commit. I found her social media and she has a kid. From some of the photos, it looks like she may have some loose skin / baby damage, so between that and the fact that I had a better option at the time, I ghosted her. She is a real person, but I have no idea if she's serious about an arrangement or if she's just looking to do paid M&Gs.
Honestly I didn't see any others. I like super petite skinny chicks. She's a perfect match. You search SA by "slim" body type and over half are far from that. But it is what it is.It's funny, most GPS girls I've encountered have wanted to talk about the allowance before we meet. TinyAngel doesn't, unless she's waiting until the last minute.
But I agree, not many genuinely slim girls on SA these days. Maybe things will pick up once the students get settled into the new semester.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e4c79102-d48f-45be-8422-99424639640a
I found LouWolf's social media, and she seems real. I like alternative girls in general but she may be a bit much for me, and I don't find her all that attractive. She's probably a wild time though. She wants 300 per meet.
Anyone here have a solid SA relationship with a young athletic built female? It seems Atlantic / Jacksonville has it going on. But from Philly posts, its unclear as to whether the Philly profiles are majority fake. I read threads awhile back saying temple zip code is the place to check.
Anyone here have a solid SA relationship with a young athletic built female? It seems Atlantic / Jacksonville has it going on. But from Philly posts, its unclear as to whether the Philly profiles are majority fake. I read threads awhile back saying temple zip code is the place to check.Some my my experience is in the midwest. But from my prior experience, the site seems somewhat cyclical, or at least my luck on the site seems that way. Occasionally I'll have a month when I don't really find any good prospects. And I've had months where I found more great prospects than I could possibly handle (or afford).
I'm not in an arrangement right now, but I've had two solid relationships with young, very attractive students. And in the course of looking for those I met a few other great possibilities who I passed on for various reasons. Of course I met with a few who flaked out. They were real but perhaps not ready for an arrangement.
My last arrangement was with a really fun college student, 5'6", thin and very pretty. She had a great attitude and was intelligent. We met weekly for 250.
From my limited experience in Philly, the temple girls do seem to be willing and reasonable when it comes to allowance. Temple classes just started up again, so I'm hoping that the activity on the site picks up soon.
This one wants 300 and can host. She's probably willing to negotiate. She seems a little to professional for me. I have no problem with pros, but not at SB prices.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d3414755-de0f-412c-a2a5-c32f6888ae16
This one wants 300 and can host. She's probably willing to negotiate. She seems a little to professional for me. I have no problem with pros, but not at SB prices.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d3414755-de0f-412c-a2a5-c32f6888ae16Were you able to verify that she is indeed the person in the photos? Where do these young students host? Dorm, off campus apartments?
Were you able to verify that she is indeed the person in the photos? Where do these young students host? Dorm, off campus apartments?I wasn't able to verify if this one is real. I'm not interested but I thought I'd pass along the info in case anyone was interested. I'm sure she'll take less.
All of the students I've seen can't host. I usually get a room the first few times, then if it turns into a long term arrangement we go to my place after we build up some trust. Obviously you need to be careful about that, but I'm single with nothing to hide.
Member #5957
02-04-19, 22:11
Dipping my toes into this scene. Just curious if anyone has used whatsyourprice and also wonder if anyone has seen this girl.
just trying to figure out if this is a bs place or what..
Thanks!
Rubber Ducky Boston
02-06-19, 15:53
Dipping my toes into this scene. Just curious if anyone has used whatsyourprice and also wonder if anyone has seen this girl.
just trying to figure out if this is a bs place or what..
Thanks!Not familiar with that site, but am I correct seeing there that you have to offer her $100 to have a first time meetup? If so that's kinda ridiculous. Norm is to have the first casual (no intimacy) date for free, or if you want maybe just pay for food at most.
Don't offer money for first time meetups without intimacy. Any potential SB who is actually serious about getting into this is almost always willing to meet for free the first time for food or some other random non-intimate date. The fact that they want money up front is a big red flag.
DoNotDeevee8
02-11-19, 11:00
Let me start by saying I have had incredible success. I have been banging out more hotttt 18-22 year old girls than when I was 22, in my senior of college and in a frat.
I have been finding a lot of girls who have never met another guy off a site before. They are fresh, gorgeous and it is like being 22 again.
When Backpage / TER died, I thought my sex life was going to fall off. Little did I know, those sites dying would push me toward arrangements, which is the best thing that ever happened to me.
Some tips:
1) I got the paid subscriptions. If you want to meet the gems, it is a numbers game. Must make lots of contacts to get a success.
2) Don't talk explicit on the site. The site will nail you for solication, shut down your account, threaten you, etc. Get the girls text you as quickly as possible. I use a burner phone for the hobby.
3) The price for first meet is $300-500. They will agree to less, but usually won't show. $300-500 is the sweet spot where they will show up. For this price you will get the cream of the crop for UTR.
4) Meets are always in hotels of my choosing, that I pay for as well. These girls live in the dorms or with boyfriends. Their boyfriends never know about the arrangements. They are little sneaks.
5) These girls are college students. Most don't drink or use drugs.
6) For $300-500 the first meet should be in a hotel. I don't even entertain "meeting for coffee" etc. But I will send my pics and spend a little bit of time texting to let them get comfortable.
7) For $300-500 everything should be on the menu. Sessions should last 2-4 hours.
8) After the initial meet you can renegotiate a lower price. Once they are comfortable with you, most will even do freebies, $200/ meet, etc.
I hope some of this info helps.
DoNotDeevee8
02-12-19, 02:21
Yesterday morning I woke up early and decided to hop on the site for a few hours. I sent out around 40 messages, no cut & paste, all unique. I got a few responses, four if my memory serves me correctly.
The responses are a game in and of themselves. Weeding out the scammers and spammers. It takes some due diligence, but in the end the hard work always pays off.
So far, I have completed my first several "steps":
1) Login and send messages to attractive girls 18-22.
2) Sit back and wait for the responses.
My first two responses tonight wanted me to send them money. These messages were probably sent by some Nigerian man. But the third response was the gem.
The third response came from a beautiful, 20 year old coed from LaSalle named Nicole. We text throughout the day.
Here is something else. I have all young ladies send me a copy of their drivers license. They can black out the address, but I want to see date of birth. I am not taking any risks with minors.
Nicole sent me her license after we had built a rapport. I agreed to pay her $300 for three hours of her companionship, with the promise that if things went well it would lead to more dates. She agreed to swallow, BBFS, no anal but I could finger her butthole.
Today (12 pm) I went to pick her up. My heart was racing. Nicole lives in college apartments near the LaSalle campus, which is in a pretty ghetto area.
When Nicole walked out I knew my trip had been worth it. Her pictures were all legit. 5'7, 110 lbs, perfect body and complexion. She has the cutest dimples, deep blue eyes and dirty blonde hair. She wore a demin dress with a green tube top.
We made small talk in the car on the way to the hotel. I got a suite at the Feathnest Inn, in Bensalem. I checked in before picking Nicole up so I could have porn on the tv and some flavored lube next to the bed. The Feathernest has a very reasonable day rate.
From the moment I picked her up Nicole seemed nervous and shy. She confided in me that this the first time she had done this. She also told me I was only the third man she had sex with.
We spent the next three hours banged like college kids. I ate a viagra so I could keep going. I left her so sore she could barely sit down or talk. We did it in the jacuzzi, shower, bed, desk. What an amazing experience.
Afterward I dropped a Nicole back at Temple and went back to work. Not a bad midday treat!
NJTitSeeker
02-12-19, 13:37
Hey guys, I'm not new I had a user name but I forgot all that info and change my e-mail. So I'm starting fresh again. Been hobbying for sometime now. Just trying to put in my work as well. This site and the others that have fallen or heavier restricted now was a great help. Anyways, I just notice that the girls on SA most are on WYP site as well. I played around with the new site first since nobody really knows about it. Other than the guy who brought it here. I must say how it works is you put an offer price out there. That's not what you will agree upon meeting. It's more so to allow you to speak to the girl through messages through the site. So far all girls are quick to give the # to discuss the details off the site. I had one today tried to get into detail from the site. I wouldn't respond to her question. I just said give me your # we can speak off-line. I'm glad she did because moments later after we where texting back and fourth, she tells me she just got banned. I made her aware the date price isn't the price we will pay. It's amount of credits to unlock to speak to them. Almost like the membership. So, if you keep it $75 and below it's 15 credits. $200 is like 40 credits, $150 is 30 cr and $100 is 20 cr. I started noticing that the pic's from each site were the same and things click. 1 site might have more than the other and vise versa. The recommended credit purchase is $150 for 450 cr. I hope this helps. I will make it my duty to post a more. I hope this helps!
Here is something else. I have all young ladies send me a copy of their drivers license. They can black out the address, but I want to see date of birth. I am not taking any risks with minors. Today (12 pm) I went to pick her up. My heart was racing. Nicole lives in college apartments near the LaSalle campus, which is in a pretty ghetto area.
A. Yeah, right. Bet she gave you her bank account info too. B -- Is she a nympho female Doogie Howser or is LaSalle letting in any old 17 year old who lives in student housing with non-minors?
When Nicole walked out I knew my trip had been worth it. Her pictures were all legit. 5'7, 110 lbs, perfect body and complexion. She has the cutest dimples, deep blue eyes and dirty blonde hair. No one matching this description active on Seeking in the past 3 weeks -- you know her height and age from her profile so you weren't guessing. Guess she was so blown away by the exprience she must have deactivated.
We made small talk in the car on the way to the hotel. I got a suite at the Feathnest Inn, in Bensalem. I checked in before picking Nicole up so I could have porn on the tv and some flavored lube next to the bed. The Feathernest has a very reasonable day rate.That's a 45 minute drive according to MapQuest. So a girl who has never had a sugar daddy and only fucked 2 other guys in her life, agrees to get in a car for a 45 min drive with a man 2 x her age who did not provide his license for verification, so she could fuck all day for $300 bucks? So just so I'm clear, you checked in at 11 -- after driving however far from your place to Bensalem -- then picked her up at noon, back to the hotel at 1 pm, fucked for 3 hours, got cleaned up (so check in at 11, check out no earlier than 430, rather generous day use) and then dropped her off around 530. So you both burned an entire day on a $300 fuck fest?
From the moment I picked her up Nicole seemed nervous and shy. She confided in me that this the first time she had done this. She also told me I was only the third man she had sex with.Amazing. She only confided this to you after meeting you in person, yet she fucked all day.
Afterward I dropped a Nicole back at Temple and went back to work. Not a bad midday treat!I guess she transferred to a better school after your generous tuition assistance.
DoNotDeevee8
02-17-19, 09:36
A. Yeah, right. Bet she gave you her bank account info too. B -- Is she a nympho female Doogie Howser or is LaSalle letting in any old 17 year old who lives in student housing with non-minors?
No one matching this description active on Seeking in the past 3 weeks -- you know her height and age from her profile so you weren't guessing. Guess she was so blown away by the exprience she must have deactivated.
That's a 45 minute drive according to MapQuest. So a girl who has never had a sugar daddy and only fucked 2 other guys in her life, agrees to get in a car for a 45 min drive with a man 2 x her age who did not provide his license for verification, so she could fuck all day for $300 bucks? So just so I'm clear, you checked in at 11 -- after driving however far from your place to Bensalem -- then picked her up at noon, back to the hotel at 1 pm, fucked for 3 hours, got cleaned up (so check in at 11, check out no earlier than 430, rather generous day use) and then dropped her off around 530. So you both burned an entire day on a $300 fuck fest?
Amazing. She only confided this to you after meeting you in person, yet she fucked all day.
I guess she transferred to a better school after your generous tuition assistance.It is unfortunate your luck is not as good as mine. I have had SBs tell me that certain guys creep them out, so they are a little more selective than other females in the hobby. Based on your attitude and post, this is my guess.
TinJusLate
02-18-19, 01:11
Hi Guys,
I'm visiting from Boston for one day in Phila (Mon 18 to Tues 19). I would really appreciate if anyone can pass digits of a SA girl I can have fun with. I would be glad to do the same if ever anyone were to come over here in Mass.
Thank you.
I'd like to get an email thread or even a group sms text going.
SA is fun. I've met some unbelievable girls there (miss Delaware! The money can be reasonable too.
But it's just so much damn work to separate the pepper from the fly poop.
Maybe if we band together, we can make this more productive!
I will ask to verify that you have a valid active account. I'm not your information sugar daddy! LOL.
Pm me here.
MellowMushie
03-17-19, 09:36
So I just set up my account to SA. I have a general guide line of what I am looking for and willing to spend thanks to the posts in this forum. Just a couple a question before I pay for this account I'm only going to pay for 1 month and see how many numbers I can get.
So just to get my run down straight I'm going to be setting up a PPM arrangement I've read since guys do 25. To 30. We know we want the fun at the end of the date but are some of you guys actually going on dates or just straight to the room? If you are dating how long like movie dinner then room? I know YMMV for every girl just making sure that those prices include a couple hours of an actual date?
Do some of you build a actually friendship / long term arrangement? And how is that going.
I am looking for an SB to meet 2-3 times a month for when I come into work 100% NSA I'm married but live many many states away. That can hang out 4-6 hours and still be DTF after being wine and dined.
PartyTimeGuy
03-25-19, 10:31
Let me start by saying I have had incredible success. I have been banging out more hotttt 18-22 year old girls than when I was 22, in my senior of college and in a frat.
I usually find most of my sugar in the Richmond area where I live, but I get to eastern PA often on business and there is plenty of great looking young pussy for hire in PA as well, and not just on the sugar sites. I have had success selectively recruiting strippers, girls on dating sites and even cashiers and girls in fast food joints and malls. All you need is the right game. There are plenty of hot young amateurs willing to drop their drawers for the right persuasion techniques and monetary incentive.
PartyTimeGuy
04-09-19, 12:33
Most of my SBs are in Virginia where I live. However, I spend about 50% of my time in eastern PA on business so PA is like a second home. This new SB recruit actually lives in western NJ near Philly. She wanted to bring a friend to our initial tryst. First time jitters I guess. Got to love it. When she showed up at the hotel she had two friends with her. What the hell, the more the merrier.
The three of them were clearly into one another, but my sense was that they had never done this with a guy before. They seemed very shy, tentative and giggly. All the hotter.
They got comfortable as we talked and had a few drinks and the prettiest two were soon all over one another. They tore off each other's clothes, and then went to town kissing, fingering and sucking. It was quite a show: screaming, screeching, squealing and squirting. After the show they took turns sucking and fucking me. It was wild. They giggled and laughed and egged one another on. The third one didn't even take off her clothes and just sat there quietly observing the whole scene. It was fun to watch the expressions on her face.
They finally succeeded in getting the third one to join the party. The first two were exhibitionists but the third refused to be photographed without her clothes. She wasn't as pretty or well built as the first two but she was the best cock sucker of the bunch, not that any of them were bad at it.
We played for several hours until I had no more strength or semen. Or so I thought. They proceeded to have a three way orgy show for me. I thought I was finished but the show motivated me to one more erection which they finished off for me as I stood and one rimmed me from behind while the other two gave me sloppy DT from the front. I was able to last and enjoy that for a long time. It was good that it came last because in the beginning I would have popped from that action in 5 minutes.
I have had my share of SB threesomes. But never a foursome until now. I highly recommend it.
Life IS good my brothers.
LogJammin18
04-09-19, 14:49
Most of my SBs are in Virginia where I live. However, I spend about 50% of my time in eastern PA on business so PA is like a second home. This new SB recruit actually lives in western NJ near Philly. She wanted to bring a friend to our initial tryst. First time jitters I guess. Got to love it. When she showed up at the hotel she had two friends with her. What the hell, the more the merrier.
The three of them were clearly into one another, but my sense was that they had never done this with a guy before. They seemed very shy, tentative and giggly. All the hotter.
They got comfortable as we talked and had a few drinks and the prettiest two were soon all over one another. They tore off each other's clothes, and then went to town kissing, fingering and sucking. It was quite a show: screaming, screeching, squealing and squirting. After the show they took turns sucking and fucking me. It was wild. They giggled and laughed and egged one another on. The third one didn't even take off her clothes and just sat there quietly observing the whole scene. It was fun to watch the expressions on her face.
They finally succeeded in getting the third one to join the party. The first two were exhibitionists but the third refused to be photographed without her clothes. She wasn't as pretty or well built as the first two but she was the best cock sucker of the bunch, not that any of them were bad at it.
We played for several hours until I had no more strength or semen. Or so I thought. They proceeded to have a three way orgy show for me. I thought I was finished but the show motivated me to one more erection which they finished off for me as I stood and one rimmed me from behind while the other two gave me sloppy DT from the front. I was able to last and enjoy that for a long time. It was good that it came last because in the beginning I would have popped from that action in 5 minutes.
I have had my share of SB threesomes. But never a foursome until now. I highly recommend it.
Life IS good my brothers.Wow! This is a great report. I have always hinted to my girls that I wouldn't mind if they brought a friend or 2 or 3 (ha). Did you really not know 3 were coming before they showed up at the door? Did they all expect an "allowance"?
Wow. I'd love to get a hold of this one for a few hours or days!!
Most of my SBs are in Virginia where I live. However, I spend about 50% of my time in eastern PA on business so PA is like a second home. This new SB recruit actually lives in western NJ near Philly. She wanted to bring a friend to our initial tryst. First time jitters I guess. Got to love it. When she showed up at the hotel she had two friends with her. What the hell, the more the merrier.
The three of them were clearly into one another, but my sense was that they had never done this with a guy before. They seemed very shy, tentative and giggly. All the hotter.
They got comfortable as we talked and had a few drinks and the prettiest two were soon all over one another. They tore off each other's clothes, and then went to town kissing, fingering and sucking. It was quite a show: screaming, screeching, squealing and squirting. After the show they took turns sucking and fucking me. It was wild. They giggled and laughed and egged one another on. The third one didn't even take off her clothes and just sat there quietly observing the whole scene. It was fun to watch the expressions on her face.
They finally succeeded in getting the third one to join the party. The first two were exhibitionists but the third refused to be photographed without her clothes. She wasn't as pretty or well built as the first two but she was the best cock sucker of the bunch, not that any of them were bad at it.
We played for several hours until I had no more strength or semen. Or so I thought. They proceeded to have a three way orgy show for me. I thought I was finished but the show motivated me to one more erection which they finished off for me as I stood and one rimmed me from behind while the other two gave me sloppy DT from the front. I was able to last and enjoy that for a long time. It was good that it came last because in the beginning I would have popped from that action in 5 minutes.
I have had my share of SB threesomes. But never a foursome until now. I highly recommend it.
Life IS good my brothers.
PartyTimeGuy
04-09-19, 17:45
Wow! This is a great report. I have always hinted to my girls that I wouldn't mind if they brought a friend or 2 or 3 (ha). Did you really not know 3 were coming before they showed up at the door? Did they all expect an "allowance"?I didn't know she was bringing any friends until she called me sheepishly right before she arrived and asked if it was ok if she brought a friend, that she hadn't done this before and she would feel more comfortable. The third friend was an additional surprise at the door. We never discussed additional "allowances" but I did "tip" them for their services because it was the right thing to do, I had a great time and I wanted to repeat the experience.
PartyTimeGuy
04-09-19, 17:56
Wow. I'd love to get a hold of this one for a few hours or days!!Yes. She was the firecracker of the trio. Whatever she wanted to do and did, the other two would follow.
JohnLongDong
04-09-19, 19:05
Yes. She was the firecracker of the trio. Whatever she wanted to do and did, the other two would follow.Can you post her profile?
PartyTimeGuy
04-10-19, 07:08
Can you post her profile?As I have mentioned before, I have found it useful to recruit SBs in many different ways other than sugar sites. This one was not on a sugar site. She was a cashier at a fast food joint. To repeat myself. All you need is the right game. There are plenty of hot young amateurs willing to drop their drawers for the right persuasion techniques and monetary incentive.
PoonHound1969
04-10-19, 12:46
Yes. She was the firecracker of the trio. Whatever she wanted to do and did, the other two would follow.Well done and soooo Jelly!
Surfing for Fun
04-10-19, 14:45
Great work my man! I don't think I have the game or guts to make that kind of move on a cashier.
She's hot as hell, if I had seen that pic on an ad, I would think it was a fake bot ad!! I'm not going to bother you for her details, I understand how finds like this aren't usually looking to be shared. I'll just sit her jealous!! Ha.
As I have mentioned before, I have found it useful to recruit SBs in many different ways other than sugar sites. This one was not on a sugar site. She was a cashier at a fast food joint. To repeat myself. All you need is the right game. There are plenty of hot young amateurs willing to drop their drawers for the right persuasion techniques and monetary incentive.
JohnLongDong
04-10-19, 17:13
As I have mentioned before, I have found it useful to recruit SBs in many different ways other than sugar sites. This one was not on a sugar site. She was a cashier at a fast food joint. To repeat myself. All you need is the right game. There are plenty of hot young amateurs willing to drop their drawers for the right persuasion techniques and monetary incentive.Good game. I salute you.
As I have mentioned before, I have found it useful to recruit SBs in many different ways other than sugar sites. This one was not on a sugar site. She was a cashier at a fast food joint. To repeat myself. All you need is the right game. There are plenty of hot young amateurs willing to drop their drawers for the right persuasion techniques and monetary incentive.Any chance of telling us locals which fast food joint and what her meal cost?
PartyTimeGuy
04-13-19, 10:08
All of the students I've seen can't host. I usually get a room the first few times, then if it turns into a long term arrangement we go to my place after we build up some trust. Obviously you need to be careful about that, but I'm single with nothing to hide.You are clearly free to handle your SB dates any way you like. However, a word of caution about hosting at your place. All kinds of dangers lurk from this practice not to mention jealous bfs, angry friends / relatives, extortionists and psycho stalkers. There is mad truth in the saying that hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. These are problems enough with civvies but when you terminate a relationship with a young SB you don't always want them to know who you are or where you live. Stories abound on the downside of this and I have mentioned but a few of the negative possibilities. The cost of a hotel room could be the cheapest insurance you ever buy.
PartyTimeGuy
04-14-19, 06:36
Any chance of telling us locals which fast food joint and what her meal cost?My suggestion is to find any fast food joint with a hot cashier and practice your game.
You are clearly free to handle your SB dates any way you like. However, a word of caution about hosting at your place. All kinds of dangers lurk from this practice not to mention jealous bfs, angry friends / relatives, extortionists and psycho stalkers. There is mad truth in the saying that hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. These are problems enough with civvies but when you terminate a relationship with a young SB you don't always want them to know who you are or where you live. Stories abound on the downside of this and I have mentioned but a few of the negative possibilities. The cost of a hotel room could be the cheapest insurance you ever buy.Point taken, and I wouldn't argue any of that. I live in a secure doorman building and have nothing to hide or hide from. So I manage my risks accordingly, but I'm not saying I recommend it to others. Especially if you're married, work a sensitive job, etc.
The only girls I've brought to my place are ones whose identity I have already confirmed. They've all been legit university students. And I know their identity, found their social media, etc. I don't have social media, other than the accounts I've set up for the identity I use for SA.
The closest thing I had to a problem was actually from a girl finding my real name through my license place number. So I'd caution guys against using their own cars too, especially for an initial meet up before you vet the girl.
I usually find most of my sugar in the Richmond area where I live, but I get to eastern PA often on business and there is plenty of great looking young pussy for hire in PA as well, and not just on the sugar sites. I have had success selectively recruiting strippers, girls on dating sites and even cashiers and girls in fast food joints and malls. All you need is the right game. There are plenty of hot young amateurs willing to drop their drawers for the right persuasion techniques and monetary incentive.My long-term SB is graduating soon and will be leaving town. So I'm on the hunt again. I've never thought about trying to meet SBs out in the wild but your post has inspired me to try something new. Would you mind if I asked what the allowance has normally been in your experience?
Strippers seem easy enough to meet, I've picked up a few for freebies although granted that was 8-10 years ago when there wasn't as much of an age difference. But I always figure they make enough cash at the club that the allowance they'd expect for a private meeting will be on the high side. Of course I may be wrong and I'd love to hear your experiences.
I imagine the allowance for a fast-food cashier making minimum wage would be much more reasonable.
But I'd be very grateful for any tips or advice. I'm particularly interested in how you make the transition from flirting / game to actually setting up an arrangement. It seems that conversation could easily go terribly wrong.
PartyTimeGuy
04-15-19, 11:01
Point taken, and I wouldn't argue any of that. I live in a secure doorman building and have nothing to hide or hide from. So I manage my risks accordingly, but I'm not saying I recommend it to others. Especially if you're married, work a sensitive job, etc.
The only girls I've brought to my place are ones whose identity I have already confirmed. They've all been legit university students. And I know their identity, found their social media, etc. I don't have social media, other than the accounts I've set up for the identity I use for SA.
The closest thing I had to a problem was actually from a girl finding my real name through my license place number. So I'd caution guys against using their own cars too, especially for an initial meet up before you vet the girl.Sounds like you are pretty careful. But one can never be TOO careful.
I have dated over 250 SBs and I have had serious trouble with 3 of them. All three had very bad attitudes, so it was clear from the start that there would be difficulties. All three only lasted one date, one more indication of bad news. In all cases they made threats after being dumped / ignored that were not credible, because I took precautions: rented car and burner phone. However, the threats were scary enough to lose some sleep over them and perhaps that was the intention in the first place.
There are plenty of psychos in the world, and it only takes one to make your life miserable. You can be identified through your license plate so renting a car is always a good idea. A burner phone is a must. These precautions are cheap compared to the potential consequences.
PartyTimeGuy
04-15-19, 11:27
My long-term SB is graduating soon and will be leaving town. So I'm on the hunt again. I've never thought about trying to meet SBs out in the wild but your post has inspired me to try something new. Would you mind if I asked what the allowance has normally been in your experience?
Strippers seem easy enough to meet, I've picked up a few for freebies although granted that was 8-10 years ago when there wasn't as much of an age difference. But I always figure they make enough cash at the club that the allowance they'd expect for a private meeting will be on the high side. Of course I may be wrong and I'd love to hear your experiences.
I imagine the allowance for a fast-food cashier making minimum wage would be much more reasonable.
But I'd be very grateful for any tips or advice. I'm particularly interested in how you make the transition from flirting / game to actually setting up an arrangement. It seems that conversation could easily go terribly wrong.Strippers are definitely easiest to recruit. After all, they are already taking off their clothes for you and spreading wide to show you the goods. It is a small step to after hour activities if they are so inclined. I usually propose 100-200 and the prospect of regular meets. 150 usually does the job and 200 almost always seals the deal. A few have required 300, but I have offered this only when they are super hot and I was traveling and knew I would not be back in the area anytime soon.
150 has also been my sweet spot for recruiting civvies. Sometimes I have gotten away with 100 and sometimes I have had to sweeten the pot to 200 to persuade one that was almost there. After small talk, and bringing up the SD idea, it is really the same type of conversation and negotiation that one has in a M&G from a sugar site.
You obviously want to be having a private conversation with civvies when making the transition from flirting to cash proposition. In the case of fast food cashiers I usually flirt at the counter and then ask them to join me for a cup of coffee at their break, that I have something very important to ask them. You need to gauge when to ask based on the progress of the small talk. Each situation is different. Usually I base it on their financial situation. If they are a student, struggling financially, whatever, that is a perfect opportunity to broach the SB subject. I have done this in many different ways: one example would be: " I understand that it is very hard to make it these days. If there was an opportunity for you to make a lot more money than you are making here, would that be something you would be willing to explore?" Almost always that is a yes. "I don't want to insult you or be too bold, but you are extremely pretty. Have you ever thought about having a Sugar Daddy?" There are obviously many variations of this approach. If you do it right, even if they are not interested, they are flattered. Girls have egos too. I have never had a bad experience doing this. At best you recruited a SB. At worst you had a nice conversation with a pretty young girl. I defuse the refusals by saying something like: "Hey, I understand. It's not for you. But you are so beautiful. You can't blame a guy for trying. If you ever change your mind I would definitely be interested."
LogJammin18
04-15-19, 13:22
Strippers are definitely easiest to recruit. After all, they are already taking off their clothes for you and spreading wide to show you the goods. It is a small step to after hour activities if they are so inclined. I usually propose 100-200 and the prospect of regular meets. 150 usually does the job and 200 almost always seals the deal. A few have required 300, but I have offered this only when they are super hot and I was traveling and knew I would not be back in the area anytime soon.
150 has also been my sweet spot for recruiting civvies. Sometimes I have gotten away with 100 and sometimes I have had to sweeten the pot to 200 to persuade one that was almost there. After small talk, and bringing up the SD idea, it is really the same type of conversation and negotiation that one has in a M&G from a sugar site.
You obviously want to be having a private conversation with civvies when making the transition from flirting to cash proposition. In the case of fast food cashiers I usually flirt at the counter and then ask them to join me for a cup of coffee at their break, that I have something very important to ask them. You need to gauge when to ask based on the progress of the small talk. Each situation is different. Usually I base it on their financial situation. If they are a student, struggling financially, whatever, that is a perfect opportunity to broach the SB subject. I have done this in many different ways: one example would be: " I understand that it is very hard to make it these days. If there was an opportunity for you to make a lot more money than you are making here, would that be something you would be willing to explore?" Almost always that is a yes. "I don't want to insult you or be too bold, but you are extremely pretty.I follow past SBs on Instagram and follow their friends. I have messaged a few on insta letting them know that I was a SD of one of her friends in the past, but always wondered if she (the friends I messaged) was interested in a SB relationship as well. Usually, you will just get blocked, but it has worked a few times.
Sounds like you are pretty careful. But one can never be TOO careful.
I have dated over 250 SBs and I have had serious trouble with 3 of them. All three had very bad attitudes, so it was clear from the start that there would be difficulties. All three only lasted one date, one more indication of bad news. In all cases they made threats after being dumped / ignored that were not credible, because I took precautions: rented car and burner phone. However, the threats were scary enough to lose some sleep over them and perhaps that was the intention in the first place.
There are plenty of psychos in the world, and it only takes one to make your life miserable. You can be identified through your license plate so renting a car is always a good idea. A burner phone is a must. These precautions are cheap compared to the potential consequences.That's very true. If you have a lot to lose you should never let your guard down. I suppose I've been lucky, the one crazy stalker I met just had daddy issues and wanted to marry me. So she wasn't really dangerous, but you never know. She still calls me and wants to meet up, but I believe she's harmless. And in any event, we never had a financial arrangement, we just dated for a while as civilians. She's one of the rare girls on SA who just wanted to meet and date an older guy.
I'm guessing that if you've dated 250 SBs, many of them weren't long term? That's a different world obviously. I love short-term and one and done arrangements but I am very careful around those girls. The SBs I'm talking about who I took home were all long-term girls who I got to know pretty well. Many of them I went on a few platonic dates with first (with no allowance, of course), and really got to know them before starting the arrangement. And just to add some general info to this post, my last one was a Temple art student, 22 now but she was 21 when we met, 5'9", blonde, slim, and she was thrilled with 250 per meet.
Like most of us here, I suspect, I love the variety offered by short-term arrangements and I may focus on those for a while since my long-term one is ending. But a long-term arrangement can be really fun too, especially with an intelligent and beautiful college student.
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150 has also been my sweet spot for recruiting civvies. Sometimes I have gotten away with 100 and sometimes I have had to sweeten the pot to 200 to persuade one that was almost there. After small talk, and bringing up the SD idea, it is really the same type of conversation and negotiation that one has in a M&G from a sugar site....Thanks so much for the tips and the hard numbers.
PartyTimeGuy
04-17-19, 07:52
I'm guessing that if you've dated 250 SBs, many of them weren't long term? That's a different world obviously. I love short-term and one and done arrangements but I am very careful around those girls. The SBs I'm talking about who I took home were all long-term girls who I got to know pretty well.
Like most of us here, I suspect, I love the variety offered by short-term arrangements and I may focus on those for a while since my long-term one is ending. But a long-term arrangement can be really fun too, especially with an intelligent and beautiful college student.I have had both long term and short term arrangements with SBs. The longest was 4 years. The shortest was obviously once and done. The long term SBs had one thing in common: they were fun to be with. Looks only go so far. One gets tired of even gorgeous girls that are boring and dull. Girls that are lively, adventurous and curious both in and out of the sack have been the keepers for me. Even those girls eventually are tedious, although a few of them were well worth revisiting after an interlude from the first round of trysts. I have done this only 10 times, less than 5%. Except for pure excellence in every way, variety IS the spice of life.
It seems philly is unreliable. Compared to other threads (atlanta, jacksonville, LA), there has not been any reviews / reports / sharing of any girls in the nj / philly area. I believe one was shared a few pages ago, but nothing recent. Anyone willing to post a seeking profile of someone they met personally?
It seems philly is unreliable. Compared to other threads (atlanta, jacksonville, LA), there has not been any reviews / reports / sharing of any girls in the nj / philly area. I believe one was shared a few pages ago, but nothing recent. Anyone willing to post a seeking profile of someone they met personally?I shared a bunch a while back but no one else was contributing, so I stopped. I ended up finding a long-term SB who deleted her profile and didn't want her info shared. And that tends to be the case with SBs. The really good ones don't stick around on the site long, they find someone then delete or deactivate their profile and they certainly don't want random guys sharing their info on a sex forum.
I think there's a lot of value in sharing intel, and I've done so in the past. And if I get back on SA once my current SB leaves, I'll do it again. Even if it's mostly sharing the flakes or girls with unrealistic expectations, it's still helpful as it can save time for other guys. I hope this thread becomes more active and I'll certainly share again once I have info that's of value.
PartyTimeGuy
04-19-19, 04:03
It seems philly is unreliable. Compared to other threads (atlanta, jacksonville, LA), there has not been any reviews / reports / sharing of any girls in the nj / philly area. I believe one was shared a few pages ago, but nothing recent. Anyone willing to post a seeking profile of someone they met personally?
SBs aren't like SWs or UTRs in one important way. They typically choose to be with a particular SD. Yes, it is about the money but there are other factors involved. Most SBs are not going to have sex with just anyone for the price of admission. Personal chemistry is also usually an important part of the equation. So, while a SB may be terrific for one SD it doesn't always mean she is generally available. Therefore, much of the sharing of SB info in this forum tends to be more about what types of potential SBs are out there, flakes and GPS to avoid, pricing, techniques of finding and negotiating with SBs and keeping the relationship safe, affordable and satisfactory for you and secret from SOs.
SBs aren't like SWs or UTRs in one important way. They typically choose to be with a particular SD. Yes, it is about the money but there are other factors involved. Most SBs are not going to have sex with just anyone for the price of admission. Personal chemistry is also usually an important part of the equation. So, while a SB may be terrific for one SD it doesn't always mean she is generally available. Therefore, much of the sharing of SB info in this forum tends to be more about what types of potential SBs are out there, flakes and GPS to avoid, pricing, techniques of finding and negotiating with SBs and keeping the relationship safe, affordable and satisfactory for you and secret from SOs.Your assessment is spot on in my opinion. Yes, chemistry is a huge part of the equation. Also, one needs to be careful concerning costs and know your limits. Thanks!
Posting here, because Lancaster is closer to Philly than it is to Baltimore, LOL.
1) Babyblue0560 (https://www.seeking.com/member/fe973f99-64d8-4467-8b89-c6e1f4b1379c)
Regarding getting physical, she said, "Maybe, eventually down the road." She wants a M&G first. I don't do M&G's.
2) babysugargurl (https://www.seeking.com/member/d5058f89-0eec-48d1-846f-97fa6e9f40a5)
Regarding getting physical, she said, "I'd have to see once time moves on."
I don't have the patience to see if I can get to the FC with either of them. (I'm spoiled in that with every SB that I met, we went to the FC on the 1st date, LOL.)
Hey guys I'm new to this whole scene and just recently tried out both of sites. I've noticed a similar trend so far. I'll get messages from quite a few girls, then I'll message them back and never get a response back or they just disappear forever LOL. Is this a common thing or do I just have bad luck? Out of the dozens and dozens I've gotten messages from I've only had 3 or 4 that were serious about having a p2 p type of arrangement but so far haven't met any of them. Either they're too far or don't drive. Maybe it's just me but both sites cost me $180 total and it's been a colossal waste of money.
PartyTimeGuy
05-03-19, 08:25
Pretty. Bright brown eyes. Silken hair. Creamy soft skin. Great bod. Big puffy suckable nips. Sassy. Daring and adventurous. Desperate to please. Daddy issues. Tight pussy. Loves it up the ass. Rims like a champ. Vocally multi-orgasmic. A squirter. You probably couldn't build too many women from scratch with better specifications, and especially not a college-aged SB. This one is definitely one of my ATFs. She will coyly smile as she makes an explosive sound with her lips off my cock like it is a lollipop, lick me sloppily up and down, and give me that come hither look as she coos, "I want Daddy to fuck me REALLY hard. Baby needs Daddy's big cock. Pretty please?" Then she DTs me to the hilt with those big liquid eyes staring up at me as her tongue swirls and flutters. It is all I can do not to pop right then and there. But delaying gets me quite ready to fuck her brains out in every imaginable position as she squeals in delight while begging me to do it harder and faster.
Life IS very good my brothers.
Pretty. Bright brown eyes. Silken hair. Creamy soft skin. Great bod. Big puffy suckable nips. Sassy. Daring and adventurous. Desperate to please. Daddy issues. Tight pussy. Loves it up the ass. Rims like a champ. Vocally multi-orgasmic. A squirter. You probably couldn't build too many women from scratch with better specifications, and especially not a college-aged SB. This one is definitely one of my ATFs. She will coyly smile as she makes an explosive sound with her lips off my cock like it is a lollipop, lick me sloppily up and down, and give me that come hither look as she coos, "I want Daddy to fuck me REALLY hard. Baby needs Daddy's big cock. Pretty please?" Then she DTs me to the hilt with those big liquid eyes staring up at me as her tongue swirls and flutters. It is all I can do not to pop right then and there. But delaying gets me quite ready to fuck her brains out in every imaginable position as she squeals in delight while begging me to do it harder and faster.
Life IS very good my brothers.Wow she is hot that's someone ld. Love to find, if you ever want to share let me know.
Anyone see her? Wants to meet for dinner first and wants compensation for it. Wondering if it's a scam.
PartyTimeGuy
05-04-19, 04:10
Anyone see her? Wants to meet for dinner first and wants compensation for it. Wondering if it's a scam.Wanting money up front just for a M&G isn't necessarily a scam but it might be. Regardless, it is not usually a good sign. I have never paid up front for anything. She gets paid after the panties hit the floor. That way I avoid those who are scamming, not serious, or just have serious GPS issues. There seem to be more women on sugar sites who are using this tactic, and other general pollution of the sites, which are some of the many reasons I now avoid sugar sites in favor of alternative recruiting methods.
I look at it this way. Almost any woman in the world would fuck any guy for a million dollars. Quite a number of women would do it for a thousand dollars. So they are all prostitutes. It's just a matter of negotiating the price. Most women who declare themselves available would do it for 500. I have never ever paid more than 300. A more usual price is 200, especially for the prospect of repeat visits. There are plenty of good looking women available at these rates, so why pay more? In my experience you don't necessarily get more when you pay more. That is especially true if you are paying just to meet someone. But that's me. Everyone has their own philosophies and approaches to such things.
PartyTimeGuy
05-08-19, 13:19
I love a shy girl who is perverse when it counts. This one I have seen a number of times and I plan to keep her in the rotation for as long as I can. She wore this cute little number to a final four party and I asked her to wear it again for me to go to a sports bar before we went to the hotel. It was a perfect choice. She looked like a sexy referee. It turned a lot of heads. She won't let me photograph her nude yet but I believe that can yet be accomplished with some expert persuasion. She is sweet, petite and fun to eat. Pretty face. High squeaky little girl voice. Small upstairs but perfect little eraser nipples she loves to have sucked and bitten. The tats are a counterpoint to her apparent look of innocence. Accommodates my request to put her hair in pigtails. Absolutely killer ass. During reverse cowgirl I can barely delay launching the fountain in favor of immensely enjoying the view and the experience as she bounces up and down on me like an erotic pogo stick. I have trained her to talk dirty the way I like it. She is very quiet in public but screams out loud between the sheets and squirts like crazy, especially when I fuck her ass and use a vibrator on her clit at the same time. I have totally corrupted this sweetie and she is now my own private fuck toy.
Life IS good my brothers.
Anyone see her? Wants to meet for dinner first and wants compensation for it. Wondering if it's a scam.Do prospective employees get paid to show up to a job interview?
NO!
You are interviewing her for the privilege to be your sugar baby. Remember who holds the cash and treat the interaction as such.
Sir you need to post more often.
A2
PartyTimeGuy
05-10-19, 07:54
Innocent looking but revealing and shows off her great tats. This outfit got plenty of eyeball attention at the restaurant. You know what I mean. The kind of staring and jaw dropping that prompted evil eyes and sharp elbows from their dates. And scolding faces from all the older MILFs. I have no SO and no worries about seeing someone I know. And no concerns about the indignant looks of all the mother hens. I soaked it up with a big self-satisfying grin.
Afterwards at the hotel some very hot action as usual. Just thinking about all the animated faces both male and female from the restaurant added fuel to the fire, as if I needed any more fuel. As I mentioned before, this gal is a spitfire behind closed doors.
Life IS good my brothers.
Do prospective employees get paid to show up to a job interview?
NO!
You are interviewing her for the privilege to be your sugar baby. Remember who holds the cash and treat the interaction as such.
These women often work at Target or Sizzler. I highly doubt the Human Resources Dept of these businesses sent $100 via Venmo or Paypal to their bank accounts before they were interviewed for the cashier or waitress job.
The sugar daddy is the Target or Sizzler. The sugar baby is the cashier or waitress. It really is as simple as that.
PartyTimeGuy
05-11-19, 00:07
These women often work at Target or Sizzler. I highly doubt the Human Resources Dept of these businesses sent $100 via Venmo or Paypal to their bank accounts before they were interviewed for the cashier or waitress job.
The sugar daddy is the Target or Sizzler. The sugar baby is the cashier or waitress. It really is as simple as that.This is a market like any other. Price clears the transaction between the buyer and the seller. If some saps are willing to give a girl money just to meet then that becomes the going rate for that girl. There is no blame to be had either way. I would never pay a girl up front but if I were a girl who could get paid just to meet someone I certainly would.
But it really is not so simple as taking the position that the SD holds all the power because he is the payer. SBs typically choose a SD for more reasons than just money. Most need to be charmed. It isn't like an escort or a UTR and certainly nothing like hiring an employee for a business. So a M&G isn't about a SD "interviewing" a SB. It is more like a first date with financial negotiation for the conclusion. She is young; you are older. It is not a match that would normally occur without money to grease the skids. But the SD needs game as well as money to make it work.
PartyTimeGuy
05-18-19, 20:33
Cute. Lithe. Curious. Energetic. Submissive. Eager to please. Fucks like a bunny. Awesome DT and rim action. Begs for it up the ass. Loves to have her puffy soft nipples pinched, stretched and bitten and her pretty pink pussy licked and sucked. High pitched squeaks when she cums, which is a LOT. This one has been top of the batting order for a while.
Life IS good my brothers.
Cute. Lithe. Curious. Energetic. Submissive. Eager to please. Fucks like a bunny. Awesome DT and rim action. Begs for it up the ass. Loves to have her puffy soft nipples pinched, stretched and bitten and her pretty pink pussy licked and sucked. High pitched squeaks when she cums, which is a LOT. This one has been top of the batting order for a while.
Life IS good my brothers.Well done, A++!
PartyTimeGuy
05-19-19, 08:09
Every time I post pics of a SB I get a flood of PMs asking me to 'share' her or someone like her or asking advice on how to get one like her.
About "sharing:" SBs are not like SWs, UTRs or escorts. They are not generally available to just anyone who has enough dough. Even if they were, I am a SD, not a pimp.
How to get a SB? One way is on sugar sites, but there are many problems associated with that. It's not as simple as contacting a girl who advertises there and then meet for sex. While there are many UTRs on sugar sites who are available to just about anyone who asks, most are way overpriced and / or looking for suckers to scam. If you find a legitimate SB on a sugar site they are likely flooded with propositions so you have to break through the noise and there is an art to that. If you are having problems doing that there is a ton of good free advice on all the SB blogs in this forum. Assuming you get good at setting up M&Gs with genuine SBs, you need to master recruiting them when you meet in person. There is also a ton of free advice on that in this forum. Then there are numerous issues regarding keeping the relationship secret from SOs and avoiding the inevitable problems in maintaining a SD / SB relationship. There is a ton of free good advice on that in this forum as well.
In short, there is no lack of good free advice on the subject of SB recruiting from sugar sites, keeping secrecy and maintaining a SB relationship. It requires some time and research on your part but the information on the subject is overwhelming. Having said all that, I have found sugar sites not to be the ideal place for me to recruit SBs and I have provided a ton of free advice in my posts on my approach in that regard. Again, it requires some research on your part to read this information and a desire to invest the time and effort necessary to recruit a good SB.
Finally, SB recruiting isn't for everyone. It is an expensive and time consuming hobby. You need to be prepared to spend about 200 to 300 per tryst, not to mention the cost of hotel rooms, dinners, and presents. If you plan to do this weekly you need a budget of at least 25 k a year. My SB budget is considerably more than this because I have 6 to 7 SBs in my rotation at any given time and I see them as frequently as possible. A further complication to all this is that most SBs choose to be with a particular SD for more reasons than money alone. So even if you have the money and the time, you have to woo your SBs. While it is not necessary that you be fit and handsome that wouldn't hurt. Since I am neither of those things I need to have game. Fortunately for me I have plenty of that. If you had trouble getting girls in HS or college or when you were young and single then recruiting SBs will be an uphill battle, even if you have the time, the patience and the money.
If you have time, money and game you will be well equipped to play in the SB pool. I have played in all the other pools: SWs, UTRs and escorts and they are fun as well, and I still do that occasionally, but I will have to say that the SB pool is the sweetest and most satisfying of them all.
PartyTimeGuy
05-21-19, 08:26
I love to role play, but so very few women are really good at it. They are usually terrible actresses and there is no suspension of disbelief. However, every now and then you come across one who is a great actress and loves to play a role. While this can be a lot of fun behind closed doors, I have found it immensely more fun to do in public.
My absolute favorite role play in public is what I call "The Bar Pickup. " One could actually do this anywhere in public but I have preferred to do it in bars, particularly upscale bars. There is just something about that atmosphere from which I derive pleasure. The basics of this role play are relatively well known: meet your wife or gf at a bar and pretend to "hook up. " But my particular twist on it with SBs has been great fun.
Picture this: an urban upscale bar at happy hour. Young arrogant successful men and women in suits and business attire loudly winding down after a long day of trading stocks and bonds, getting a large account or winning a big case. You walk in. Considerably older and grayer than almost all of them. Less attractive. Casually dressed. Very much seemingly out of place. You sit at a far corner of the bar near a conversing group of yuppies, hopefully both men and women. You attempt to enter the conversation. They typically ignore you as if you belong in the run down gin mill 3 blocks away. 10 minutes pass. In walks a stunning young hottie dressed to kill. Slit up her skirt to never never land, low cut cleavage, 6 inch "fuck me" pumps, and a swagger to let everyone know she is quite aware she is now the most fetching chickie in the bar. She sits down alone at the opposite end of the bar. All the men in bar notice her. The women too. One of the yuppies in the conversation from which you have been snubbed makes a comment something like "Yowza!" The rest laugh nervously. You turn to the group and say boldly, "I bet I can get her to leave this place with me. " Laughter erupts. The women smirk. You continue: "I am willing to put my money where my mouth is. My 20 bucks against 20 from each of you that I can do it in 10 minutes. " Whether they accept the bet or not is immaterial. The objective is not to con them. If they pony up for the bet you are leaving the bar without their money anyway as a grand conquering gesture.
You motion to the barkeep to send a drink to the young lady. When he / she offers the drink to her she looks down the bar at you, then shakes her head and refuses the drink. Guffaws from the yuppie group. You ask the barkeep to do it again and in several tries get the same result: refusal of the drink. She continues to look straight ahead, sipping the drink she has ordered for herself. You continue to order drinks for her until the barkeep finally shrugs his / her shoulders as if to say "The lady doesn't want your drink offer, buddy. " If there were any cynical yuppies in your conversation group who were feeling this was a setup, they are now convinced it is for real and are now quite prepared to be entertained at your expense. Several of the guys are thinking about showing you how it's done and the girls are envious they can't be her and have the attention of the whole bar.
I walk down to where she is seated and as I pass her my obviously outstretched index finger softly runs across her back. She shivers it off as if to shed something terrible, straightens her posture and looks dead ahead, ignoring me completely. More guffaws from the yuppies. I walk back in the other direction and make the same gesture. Total indifference from her as the yuppies are stifling their laughter. I pass a third time and whisper something in her ear. She looks straight ahead as if nothing happened. I whisper again and she straightens her body, slightly lifting it off the seat and cocks her head slightly as if to indicate "Hmmm, that was interesting. " I lean forward and whisper again and she struggles to stifle a giggle as if it was very funny but she doesn't want to let on that it was. I whisper again. A broad smile crosses her face. She tilts her head back to look at me and leans back a bit as if to catch the next whisper. I deliver another whisper and she laughs out loud, covering her mouth in surprise, and she swivels around to face me with a look of intrigue and delight. I whisper again and she slides towards me, legs spreading and clasping me on both hips. My hand slips up her dress as she inches forward to it like she wants my fingers in her pussy right then and there. My hand cups her breast on the side away from the leering crowd. She is arching her back and lets out a slight moan. The yuppies are staring intently, flabbergasted and with dropping jaws. I can see the very surprised looks on their faces and furrowing brows as if to say "What the HELL is he whispering to her?" She places her arms around my neck and pulls me closer to her. The yuppies can't see my hands but one is obviously up her dress and pressed right into her crotch and the other is feeling her up. She is wiggling as if to get better position on my hands and fingers. My lips are an inch from hers and she is leaning in for a kiss, but my face retreats just enough to deny her my lips. Our faces are inches apart. My hand moves from her breast to grab the back of her hair and I yank it firmly upward as she sighs out loud. Her mouth is wide open and letting out little gasps as my hands control her hair and crotch as if she were my erotic play toy. She collapses against me in total surrender. I loosen my grasp on her hair, pull my hand out of her skirt and whisper to her once more. She lets out a wicked laugh and, pops off the bar stool as her skirt slides up to reveal she is wearing no panties. She grabs her purse and smooths her hair. I take a collar and leash out of my pocket and place the collar around her neck. I lead her by the leash to the door. She has a big grin and sways her hips with every step like she is dancing. The yuppies are all in total shock and disbelief. We stop at the door. She turns and blows a kiss at the crowd as we depart the bar.
Now the best part: we are in bed later and I am deep inside her. My mouth is next to her ear. I remind her of the bar pickup. We share the fantasy. We both can picture the bar: what it looks like, smells like, the sounds, the looks on the yuppies' faces as we did our role play. It feels real and not imaginary because we both lived it; we experienced it together. I tweak the role play, make her go the men's room, make her lean against the sink, pull up her dress, allow every guy in the bar who wants to have his way with her. Or sit her on the bar and spread her legs for one girl to lick her ass while the other licks and sucks her pussy. Or, kneel in front of every guy at the bar blowing each one in turn as everyone watches. You get the picture. The permutations are infinite. It seems real and intense and not just a creation of the mind.
I have done several other public role plays but this particular one is my favorite. I have done it about 20 times now. It is a very rich fantasy role play for me and all my SB partners who have done it with me and we can instantly mentally recall the role play situation in any sensual/sexual situation with endless fantasy variations to spice up the activity. Cocks and pussies and mouths and tongues and hands and fingers are all useful in the sexual symphony but the conductor and most powerful sex organ of all is truly the mind.
Pretty. Bright brown eyes. Silken hair. Creamy soft skin. Great bod. Big puffy suckable nips. Sassy. Daring and adventurous. Desperate to please. Daddy issues. Tight pussy. Loves it up the ass. Rims like a champ. Vocally multi-orgasmic. A squirter. You probably couldn't build too many women from scratch with better specifications, and especially not a college-aged SB. This one is definitely one of my ATFs. She will coyly smile as she makes an explosive sound with her lips off my cock like it is a lollipop, lick me sloppily up and down, and give me that come hither look as she coos, "I want Daddy to fuck me REALLY hard. Baby needs Daddy's big cock. Pretty please?" Then she DTs me to the hilt with those big liquid eyes staring up at me as her tongue swirls and flutters. It is all I can do not to pop right then and there. But delaying gets me quite ready to fuck her brains out in every imaginable position as she squeals in delight while begging me to do it harder and faster.
Life IS very good my brothers.Can you PM with her number?
PartyTimeGuy
05-21-19, 12:42
Can you PM with her number?Not trying to be difficult, but you need to re-read my latest post on this subject: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?23844-Philly-Sugar&p=4281513&viewfull=1#post4281513
PartyTimeGuy
05-24-19, 07:32
I really liked this little party dress. Couldn't wait to get her to the room, lift up that dress, pull down her panties and fuck her up against the wall. Then I was ready for a long and more paced evening of pleasure.
I really liked this little party dress. Couldn't wait to get her to the room, lift up that dress, pull down her panties and fuck her up against the wall. Then I was ready for a long and more paced evening of pleasure.You got yourself a sweet little doll there buddy. Enjoy.
PartyTimeGuy
05-25-19, 23:31
Intelligence is usually not something we necessarily seek in a SB. But when we find it, smarts can be quite intriguing. It leads to imagination and interesting conversation, which can be more prized when one is meeting frequently with a woman. The sex is more varied and far less predictable. And when sensual imagination crosses the line to the dark side, the fantasies can be very stimulating indeed. A girl who is submissive and kinky not because she is a doormat and weak but rather because she is willfully resourceful, canny and strong and chooses to submit: that is an intoxication that is rare indeed.
Here is a taste. The taste is tame, but it portends a five course meal that satisfies in every way. Soup, salad, appetizer, entree and dessert to follow.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b54633ce-dccf-4073-8358-cfddf21fa83d
Claims to be a 2001 baby, DTF, and "loves to please men" (her words). This is her 2nd account -- she said deleted the 1st one (under the username rosabby, note the different spelling) because she was overwhelmed by the number of messages she had received (over 400). We set up a meeting for today, but surprise, surprise, she ghosted. Avoid.
PartyTimeGuy
05-28-19, 21:48
She has worn some great outfits to a party but this was a real head turner. Arm candy to the max. Lots of swivel headed males and jealous dates with wrinkled up noses. There is just something about a woman in a short skirt that turns me on, especially when she has great legs and a killer ass. Sweet and demure but those tats screamed NAUGHTY. No preliminaries for the first round at the hotel. Bend over the desk. Lift skirt. Pull panties aside. Pound to completion. Tension relieved. Take time enjoying her the rest of the night.
Life IS good my brothers.
PartyTimeGuy
05-29-19, 01:05
Every now and then I find it very therapeutic to stop for a moment, take a breath, and reflect on this interesting hobby of ours.
I posted this recently in the special interests section as a reply to a post about this subject that I found to be very thoughtful. http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4228-Sexual-Addiction-Reports&p=4294827#post4294827.
PartyTimeGuy
05-30-19, 22:03
I promised you a five course meal. We already had the amuse gruele, the starter taste that ideally excites and prepares the palate for the meal to come in an unmistakable but playful way. (The amuse is not normally counted as a course. }.
Following the amuse is usually the soup course. A good soup dish or first course expands upon the amuse and brings a new layer into the composition. The soup prepares the diner for the hot courses to come.
Enjoying the meal? The best is yet to come, so to speak.
PartyTimeGuy
06-01-19, 09:32
She looked like a hot country girl. Shorts definitely showed off her outstanding ass and legs. Plenty of male eyeballing and raised female eyebrows. It made nailing her at the hotel afterwards that much more exciting and satisfying.
Life IS good my brothers.
PartyTimeGuy
06-04-19, 06:40
This girl was hardly innocent. She had that look in her eye and manner about her that screamed: "I am a very naughty girl and I am going to rock your world. " Normally I am the one in control and dictating the sexual course of events and I like it that way, but this girl took charge in a way that had me immensely enjoying the reversal of usual roles. She was an exceptional dirty talker, something I truly like, and I was rock hard before we even took off our clothes. She teased me expertly and gave me the best sloppy DT I can remember, and, trust me, I have had more than my share of good ones. I came way before I wanted to the first time but many more opportunities were to "cum" and she was the classic definition of a mynx who did her thing so crazy good you wished you didn't have your way with her. Name a position or fantasy fulfilling sexual possibility and we did it several times over: mish, cowgirl front and reverse, doggy, and that fine tight ass. At the end I was totally exhausted and she was still full of sensual energy. I need to eat my Wheaties before every get-together with this one.
Life IS good my brothers.
This girl was hardly innocent. She had that look in her eye and manner about her that screamed: "I am a very naughty girl and I am going to rock your world. " Normally I am the one in control and dictating the sexual course of events and I like it that way, but this girl took charge in a way that had me immensely enjoying the reversal of usual roles. She was an exceptional dirty talker, something I truly like, and I was rock hard before we even took off our clothes. She teased me expertly and gave me the best sloppy DT I can remember, and, trust me, I have had more than my share of good ones. I came way before I wanted to the first time but many more opportunities were to "cum" and she was the classic definition of a mynx who did her thing so crazy good you wished you didn't have your way with her. Name a position or fantasy fulfilling sexual possibility and we did it several times over: mish, cowgirl front and reverse, doggy, and that fine tight ass. At the end I was totally exhausted and she was still full of sensual energy. I need to eat my Wheaties before every get-together with this one.
Life IS good my brothers.I have to say I really appreciate your sharing, thanks brother, love life and have fun! Thank you for the posts!
PartyTimeGuy
06-04-19, 12:26
I have to say I really appreciate your sharing, thanks brother, love life and have fun! Thank you for the posts!There are not too many good things to say about getting older, but being wiser and more patient, having financial resources and plenty of spare time has combined to give me more good-looking college-aged pussy than I ever had time for to bang for free when I was actually in college.
Lexilove4321.
Pros: Coms were easy we went to texting offline line quickly. Has transportation. Meet on time. BBBJ and BBFSCIP. We never talk price or services but from the comms I could tell it wouldn't just be a meet and greet. I gave her $240 she drove 25 minutes to me and we spent a couple hours together.
Cons: Cannot host. She's a little heavier than her pics. I like slim girls she is an average build.
Would I repeat probably not a cool chick no problems but a little heavier than I prefer.
https://www.seeking.com/member/454e9c7d-b479-44d9-9f40-f3de8444b303
Lexilove4321.
Pros: Coms were easy we went to texting offline line quickly. Has transportation. Meet on time. BBBJ and BBFSCIP. We never talk price or services but from the comms I could tell it wouldn't just be a meet and greet. I gave her $240 she drove 25 minutes to me and we spent a couple hours together.
Cons: Cannot host. She's a little heavier than her pics. I like slim girls she is an average build.
Would I repeat probably not a cool chick no problems but a little heavier than I prefer.
https://www.seeking.com/member/454e9c7d-b479-44d9-9f40-f3de8444b303
PartyTimeGuy
06-06-19, 01:35
In almost every study conducted on the subject, the preferred "type" of female for most males is young and skinny. And most of my SBs fit this very description with the additional desirable quality of cute or pretty. But there is something to be said for girls that are average looking and / or on the chubby side. For one thing they have spent their whole lives in the shadows of the prettier, skinnier more popular girls. So when they get a chance to show their stuff they are usually quite eager to please and be appreciated. That brings us to "Sex Slave SB. " Average looking and chubby. Very nice tits. Not necessarily the first girl one might pick if given a wider selection of cuties and spinners. But attitude? One of the best.
I recently read a very interesting book: "Perv, The Sexual Deviant in All of Us. " Science says there are secret fetishes in all of us and each particular suite of desired deviance is as unique as a fingerprint. With this girl I have an opportunity to leave prints all over the place. This girl will do ANYthing to please. Give the boys a tongue bath for an hour? Sure. Lick ass while slowly teasing cock. Absolutely. Role play? ATM? Face painting? Getting tied up? Blindfolds? Handcuffs? Shrimping? Golden shower with swallow? Gang bang? Snowball with a gf? Suck off the pizza deliverer? If I can think of it she will do it, and with no hesitation, a smile and a fervent desire to please me. She is completely dedicated to my every perverted pleasure, my own personal sex slave, ready to quite willingly do whatever I desire. Every SD needs a few of these in his stable.
Life IS very good my brothers.
In almost every study conducted on the subject, the preferred "type" of female for most males is young and skinny. And most of my SBs fit this very description with the additional desirable quality of cute or pretty. But there is something to be said for girls that are average looking and / or on the chubby side. For one thing they have spent their whole lives in the shadows of the prettier, skinnier more popular girls. So when they get a chance to show their stuff they are usually quite eager to please and be appreciated. That brings us to "Sex Slave SB. " Average looking and chubby. Very nice tits. Not necessarily the first girl one might pick if given a wider selection of cuties and spinners. But attitude? One of the best.
I recently read a very interesting book: "Perv, The Sexual Deviant in All of Us. " Science says there are secret fetishes in all of us and each particular suite of desired deviance is as unique as a fingerprint. With this girl I have an opportunity to leave prints all over the place. This girl will do ANYthing to please. Give the boys a tongue bath for an hour? Sure. Lick ass while slowly teasing cock. Absolutely. Role play? ATM? Face painting? Getting tied up? Blindfolds? Handcuffs? Shrimping? Golden shower with swallow? Gang bang? Snowball with a gf? Suck off the pizza deliverer? If I can think of it she will do it, and with no hesitation, a smile and a fervent desire to please me. She is completely dedicated to my every perverted pleasure, my own personal sex slave, ready to quite willingly do whatever I desire. Every SD needs a few of these in his stable.
Life IS very good my brothers.I'll be the pizza guy and stick around for the gangbang LOL.
PartyTimeGuy
06-06-19, 07:37
I'll be the pizza guy and stick around for the gangbang LOL.You and 9999999 other guys on here. ;-P
https://www.seeking.com/member/02017787-f579-452c-a3b0-56f5e62245cc Wants $400 for a 2 hour meet. Definite UTR.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7ac64fb2-bb4a-4b36-a9f1-5b80d15f17cd Wants $1000 a month for a few visits. Everything on the menu including anal.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b85b7661-521d-4318-b8f4-4a71307d4023 Interesting conversation. Looks to be a value if I can close the deal.
https://www.seeking.com/member/94955465-0aee-49bd-b9ff-85117e14a3b3 Hot MILF. Might have GPS, anyone else get a quote from her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/02017787-f579-452c-a3b0-56f5e62245cc Wants $400 for a 2 hour meet. Definite UTR.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7ac64fb2-bb4a-4b36-a9f1-5b80d15f17cd Wants $1000 a month for a few visits. Everything on the menu including anal.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b85b7661-521d-4318-b8f4-4a71307d4023 Interesting conversation. Looks to be a value if I can close the deal.
https://www.seeking.com/member/94955465-0aee-49bd-b9ff-85117e14a3b3 Hot MILF. Might have GPS, anyone else get a quote from her?I was chatting with the second one for a bit few months ago but she went ghost after awhile. I believe she had a different screen name so I am not sure if she is legit. If you can verify, let me know.
LogJammin18
06-07-19, 15:59
There are not too many good things to say about getting older, but being wiser and more patient, having financial resources and plenty of spare time has combined to give me more good-looking college-aged pussy than I ever had time for to bang for free when I was actually in college.I agree with the whole statement except for the "for free" part. I have found this doesn't work without the financial incentive if the girl is truly a hot college girl. How often are you hooking up with no incentive?
LogJammin18
06-07-19, 16:15
Intelligence is usually not something we necessarily seek in a SB. But when we find it, smarts can be quite intriguing. It leads to imagination and interesting conversation, which can be more prized when one is meeting frequently with a woman. The sex is more varied and far less predictable. And when sensual imagination crosses the line to the dark side, the fantasies can be very stimulating indeed. A girl who is submissive and kinky not because she is a doormat and weak but rather because she is willfully resourceful, canny and strong and chooses to submit: that is an intoxication that is rare indeed.
I am seeing an SB now that was the Valedictorian of her class and is in the honors program at a major university. Getting her from analytical non stop thinking mind to monosyllabic slobbering sex beast is so much fun. You can actually see the moment where her conscious brain turns off and her primitive wild monkey sex brain turns on. I have seen that his is more noticeable the higher the IQ of the sex partner.
PartyTimeGuy
06-08-19, 08:34
I agree with the whole statement except for the "for free" part. I have found this doesn't work without the financial incentive if the girl is truly a hot college girl. How often are you hooking up with no incentive?I think you misread my post. The free tail I got was when I was in college. It is all paid-for tail now. I am more than twice their age, overweight and not the most handsome guy in the world, so if I could get good-looking college-aged girls to do it for free then I could sell that approach for millions.
PartyTimeGuy
06-08-19, 08:35
I am seeing an SB now that was the Valedictorian of her class and is in the honors program at a major university. Getting her from analytical non stop thinking mind to monosyllabic slobbering sex beast is so much fun. You can actually see the moment where her conscious brain turns off and her primitive wild monkey sex brain turns on. I have seen that his is more noticeable the higher the IQ of the sex partner.The brain is the most important sex organ. I have found that sex with smart women can be the BEST!
https://www.seeking.com/member/2ddb0e68-7fc2-4cab-aba5-46fbf25c9a3d
18 y.o. from Media, just graduated from HS and actually hasn't started college yet. Unfortunately, she's not willing to do anything sexual. Avoid.
PartyTimeGuy
06-09-19, 09:12
In case you hadn't noticed there is a discussion going on in Cookyjar's thread on the subject of SWs vs. Escorts vs. SBs.
It all started with this post from HollywoodGuy.
SDs and SBs
Subsequent Discussion:
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SugarBaby vs Escort vs Streetwalkers
SugarBaby vs Escort vs Streetwalkers
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SW, Escort or SB?
RE: SugarBaby vs Escort vs Streetwalkers
SB Definition
RE: SugarBaby vs Escort vs Streetwalkers
SB Definition
And then, of course, a NOOB has to butt in with a "helpful" comment:
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There are not too many good things to say about getting older, but being wiser and more patient, having financial resources and plenty of spare time has combined to give me more good-looking college-aged pussy than I ever had time for to bang for free when I was actually in college.Well the girls who sell their skin aren't usually what you would bang in college anyway.
They are the chicks who got picked on in school and said fk it.
Most of my SBs are in Virginia where I live. However, I spend about 50% of my time in eastern PA on business so PA is like a second home. This new SB recruit actually lives in western NJ near Philly. She wanted to bring a friend to our initial tryst. First time jitters I guess. Got to love it. When she showed up at the hotel she had two friends with her. What the hell, the more the merrier.
The three of them were clearly into one another, but my sense was that they had never done this with a guy before. They seemed very shy, tentative and giggly. All the hotter.
They got comfortable as we talked and had a few drinks and the prettiest two were soon all over one another. They tore off each other's clothes, and then went to town kissing, fingering and sucking. It was quite a show: screaming, screeching, squealing and squirting. After the show they took turns sucking and fucking me. It was wild. They giggled and laughed and egged one another on. The third one didn't even take off her clothes and just sat there quietly observing the whole scene. It was fun to watch the expressions on her face.
They finally succeeded in getting the third one to join the party. The first two were exhibitionists but the third refused to be photographed without her clothes. She wasn't as pretty or well built as the first two but she was the best cock sucker of the bunch, not that any of them were bad at it.I only see two girls and a dick.
Every now and then I find it very therapeutic to stop for a moment, take a breath, and reflect on this interesting hobby of ours.
I posted this recently in the special interests section as a reply to a post about this subject that I found to be very thoughtful. http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4228-Sexual-Addiction-Reports&p=4294827#post4294827.It's easier to get at a sugar baby than these hookers that look like they belong in a zoo am I right brother? You got to lead them on a little but easy access once they get a little chump change in my experience.
I really liked this little party dress. Couldn't wait to get her to the room, lift up that dress, pull down her panties and fuck her up against the wall. Then I was ready for a long and more paced evening of pleasure.You must like this one a lot since we can't see her vag. And she's rocking the atf pigtails. You ***** worshiping fool. LOL.
ReadyToTumble
06-12-19, 12:56
https://www.seeking.com/member/02017787-f579-452c-a3b0-56f5e62245cc Wants $400 for a 2 hour meet. Definite UTR.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7ac64fb2-bb4a-4b36-a9f1-5b80d15f17cd Wants $1000 a month for a few visits. Everything on the menu including anal.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b85b7661-521d-4318-b8f4-4a71307d4023 Interesting conversation. Looks to be a value if I can close the deal.
https://www.seeking.com/member/94955465-0aee-49bd-b9ff-85117e14a3b3 Hot MILF. Might have GPS, anyone else get a quote from her?The 4th one is for real. She wanted 4 bills. Her ass is bigger than I like so I passed. Very very nice MILF super sweet personality.
ReadyToTumble
06-12-19, 13:03
I am on other board so you may be able to figure out who I am.
I scored with this one.
https://www.seeking.com/member/49e4d5a8-f76e-4bd6-86d9-a01756a5fcce
She wanted 4 and met me right at the hotel parking lot after some texts and a phone call.
Very sweet nice girl. She put on a few lbs since these pics were taken. Very nice girl. It was more of a light GFE session. Ok BBBJ and lets say everything just "naturally flowed along".
One shot or for a few hours?
I am on other board so you may be able to figure out who I am.
I scored with this one.
https://www.seeking.com/member/49e4d5a8-f76e-4bd6-86d9-a01756a5fcce
She wanted 4 and met me right at the hotel parking lot after some texts and a phone call.
Very sweet nice girl. She put on a few lbs since these pics were taken. Very nice girl. It was more of a light GFE session. Ok BBBJ and lets say everything just "naturally flowed along".
The 4th one is for real. She wanted 4 bills. Her ass is bigger than I like so I passed. Very very nice MILF super sweet personality.Any other experiences? She quoted me $500 and I declined.
https://www.seeking.com/member/94955465-0aee-49bd-b9ff-85117e14a3b3
ReadyToTumble
06-14-19, 10:56
One shot or for a few hours?We had "no Clock" I'm not a counting shots guy. If it happens it happens. I've had great one shots I've done 3 or 4 just depends.
In my experience, if you make this seem like a date and they are entertained, you have some game, conversation and talk to these girls like they are a date rather than an escort they will hang for a long time and you can get as many shots as you want.
This was my first SB who was a HS senior. She's Filipina, and she lives near Springfield. Yes, she was 18, I was able to verify that. She turned 18 last September, and no joke, she signed up on SA the day after. We first met a week after that, so this was closest to barely legal that I've ever got, LOL.
Because of distance (I'm in Maryland), we only met about once a month. First meeting, she snuck out of the house (mom was away, only stepdad was home) and spent the night with me in a hotel. Then, a couple of times, when going out with friends, I would pick her up, we would have a quickie, and then I would drop her off wherever she had to meet her friends. But most of the time, I would meet her in the mornings before school. I'd pick her up, we'd have a quickie, and then I'd drop her off at school.
The main cons with her was that (1) she's immature, (2) she's a terrible kisser, and (3) she refused to give me BJ's. So why did I continue seeing her? At the time, I had no luck finding Y2K SB's in my area. And of all the girls I've been with, she had the tightest p***y ever. Combined with her allowing BBFS, it was heaven screwing her. She claimed that she's only done with two guys a total of five times previously, and I believe her.
She's no longer on SA -- she got banned back in January for solicitation, LOL. She stopped responding to my texts a few weeks ago, so I'm guessing that it's over. I guess the point of this post is, "different strokes for different folks." I see pics of girls discussed on this site and I don't see why they were appealing to you gents. ;) This little Filipina is overweight, but her body drove me wild somehow, LOL.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b534bfae-05ac-4c9e-897d-44f50e35dcbc
Izzy is an 18 y.o. in Lancaster. She said that she was DTF, and we're supposed to meet tomorrow. But guess what, she stopped responding to my texts, LOL.
Probably for the best. She claimed to be a 2000 baby, finished a year of college and is transferring to a different college. But according to my research, she actually just graduated from HS. Who knows if she's really a 2000 baby, then, LOL. I would avoid.
PartyTimeGuy
06-15-19, 10:33
This was my first SB who was a HS senior. She's Filipina, and she lives near Springfield. Yes, she was 18, I was able to verify that. She turned 18 last September, and no joke, she signed up on SA the day after. We first met a week after that, so this was closest to barely legal that I've ever got, LOL.
Because of distance (I'm in Maryland), we only met about once a month. First meeting, she snuck out of the house (mom was away, only stepdad was home) and spent the night with me in a hotel. Then, a couple of times, when going out with friends, I would pick her up, we would have a quickie, and then I would drop her off wherever she had to meet her friends. But most of the time, I would meet her in the mornings before school. I'd pick her up, we'd have a quickie, and then I'd drop her off at school.
The main cons with her was that (1) she's immature, (2) she's a terrible kisser, and (3) she refused to give me BJ's. So why did I continue seeing her? At the time, I had no luck finding Y2K SB's in my area. And of all the girls I've been with, she had the tightest p***y ever. Combined with her allowing BBFS, it was heaven screwing her. She claimed that she's only done with two guys a total of five times previously, and I believe her.
She's no longer on SA -- she got banned back in January for solicitation, LOL. She stopped responding to my texts a few weeks ago, so I'm guessing that it's over. I guess the point of this post is, "different strokes for different folks." I see pics of girls discussed on this site and I don't see why they were appealing to you gents. ;) This little Filipina is overweight, but her body drove me wild somehow, LOL.Chubby girls can be terrific. Usually they have a great attitude, overcompensation or something like that. It is odd that she wouldn't give you a BJ, but I have run across a few girls like that. There must be a certain personality profile that goes along with the no-blow SB.
I had a gf in HS who let me choose between top or bottom, but not both. Bottom was definitely usually my choice. It must be something like many escorts not wanting to kiss. if they hold something back it's like they aren't really doing what they are doing.
Hi- anyone know about this profile. Is she genuine? Claims to be student and hotel manager.
https://www.seeking.com/member/87d06dec-bac9-4f57-ba1e-f8555ec239f2
Hi, I join the SA site today. I got some keen girls who reached out themselves. I am not sure if its TGTBT.
Also are there any tips on how to be sage with SUGAR dating?
This is the profile I was requesting info about:
https://www.seeking.com/member/87d06dec-bac9-4f57-ba1e-f8555ec239f2
Here's a tip
Don't buy the hype. These chicks are hookers, if you're not getting value for money move on to the next.
A2
https://www.seeking.com/member/bdba16a2-253c-47f4-a4d8-547d2d44a1c7
https://www.adultlook.com/p/2632373
Would you guys say profiles with photos that look professionally done tend to be fakes?
Would you guys say profiles with photos that look professionally done tend to be fakes?Sometimes, but it's worth doing a little digging to be sure. I always start with a google image search and / or a tineye search, it can let you know if the pics are stolen or sometimes you'll get lucky and actually find the girl's real identity through her social media. If the search shows up a model from LA or something, then I move on.
My instinct, of course, is that if a girl looks to good to be true, she probably is. But not always, which is what's so great about SA. My last long-term SB, who just graduated and moved out of town unfortunately, had some very professional photos and I figured she was fake or that she'd have really unrealistic expectations. But we met up for dinner, got along well and came up with a really great arrangement at a fair price. She was a student and because she was 5'9" and slim, she'd often get asked to pose for photos for the fashion and art students at her school, so that's where she got the great photos. My SB before that was actually an agency-signed model. They often don't make much money so quite a few real models are on SA. She told me half the girls at her agency were on the site.
Also a lot of girls these days are internet models or active on instagram where they take surprisingly professional-looking photos. The world has changed.
The fake ones usually reveal themselves very quickly. They'll be the ones who reply quickly and almost always with the same message, something to the effect of "you may not like the way I do things, but I require a payment up front. " At which point I delete and move on.
Because they USUALLY get right to their pitch, you haven't wasted much time if they're fake. So I tend to assume they're real until I find out otherwise.
Sometimes, but it's worth doing a little digging to be sure. I always start with a google image search and / or a tineye search, it can let you know if the pics are stolen or sometimes you'll get lucky and actually find the girl's real identity through her social media. If the search shows up a model from LA or something, then I move on.
My instinct, of course, is that if a girl looks to good to be true, she probably is. But not always, which is what's so great about SA. My last long-term SB, who just graduated and moved out of town unfortunately, had some very professional photos and I figured she was fake or that she'd have really unrealistic expectations. But we met up for dinner, got along well and came up with a really great arrangement at a fair price. She was a student and because she was 5'9" and slim, she'd often get asked to pose for photos for the fashion and art students at her school, so that's where she got the great photos. My SB before that was actually an agency-signed model. They often don't make much money so quite a few real models are on SA. She told me half the girls at her agency were on the site.
Also a lot of girls these days are internet models or active on instagram where they take surprisingly professional-looking photos. The world has changed.
The fake ones usually reveal themselves very quickly. They'll be the ones who reply quickly and almost always with the same message, something to the effect of "you may not like the way I do things, but I require a payment up front. " At which point I delete and move on.
Because they USUALLY get right to their pitch, you haven't wasted much time if they're fake. So I tend to assume they're real until I find out otherwise.Appreciate the heads up!
I have found that the younger sb's say between 18 and 25 that are seeking men between 20 and 60 are more often then not pro's or at least on the bubble. I also found that in addition to searching pictures if you search the sb's name but put an at before it you will be surprised with the number of twitter and instagram accounts you hit.
Fellow bowlers,
Any ideas for an affordable place in Philly to take a SB for the fuckfest?
Hotel prices are crazy.
I've posted before that I've taken some of my previous SBs to my place, but I'm single and have nothing to hide. I live in a secure doorman building, and they were all legit college students who I knew quite well by that time, including their real names, addresses, social media, etc. It may not be the best idea in the "me too" era, and in any event I know it's not an option at all for many of you.
If you're interested in meeting up during the day, there are a few hotels, like Club Quarters in center city, that are available on the hotels by day website, hotelsbyday.com. You pay a reduced rate for a daytime-only booking, something like 10 am to 4 pm. There's another website called day use hotels, dayuse.com, they have a hotel near Penn on their site.
Other than that, a hotel is an unfortunate cost of doing business. I prefer college-student SBs, and finding one who can host is extremely rare.
Fellow bowlers,
Any ideas for an affordable place in Philly to take a SB for the fuckfest?
Hotel prices are crazy.
Rubber Ducky Boston
06-25-19, 11:13
Fellow bowlers,
Any ideas for an affordable place in Philly to take a SB for the fuckfest?
Hotel prices are crazy.If you are willing to drive to the burbs, prices on hotels can drop to more reasonable levels. But like the other guy said, its just a cost of doing business unless you can host at your own place. I'm also in a similar situation where I'm single, have nothing to hide, but usually first few dates will be at a hotel until I know she's not crazy, and after that I save money, meet at my place.
https://www.seeking.com/member/94955465-0aee-49bd-b9ff-85117e14a3b3
Anyone else have experience with this one? PM to compare notes.
I've posted here a few times regarding the sugar baby / rent parties up in the Poconos. I'm signed on for this Saturday at 7. I welcome senior members that are into an orgy gangbang kind of thing to join. I'm straight but love a good ol fashioned orgy. There are 2 HWP 3 hole cum **** sugar babies attending. Only reply if you can make it up to the Poconos area by 7 pm Saturday night. Also sign up on doublelist to see more info when they post it. (Doublelist is like Craigslist but you need an email and cell number for text verification, no CC numbers, decent site) Donations are strictly for the house rental. It will be a great dream for those into it.
Socalcasualguy
06-27-19, 23:40
https://www.seeking.com/member/94955465-0aee-49bd-b9ff-85117e14a3b3
Anyone else have experience with this one? PM to compare notes.There was a discussion in this thread earlier, about her.
Diegotralfaz
07-05-19, 14:42
Yes. She was the firecracker of the trio. Whatever she wanted to do and did, the other two would follow.What a beauty.
PartyTimeGuy
07-06-19, 09:45
What a beauty.Another of Firecracker.
Apothecary
07-07-19, 00:04
Has anyone met these? They look pro to me.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0a081623-a962-4f08-91be-6472c936dee0
Seems cool and pics shared are TGTBT.
https://www.seeking.com/member/56c03774-4f75-4ac9-a57b-2e031804bd32
https://www.seeking.com/member/008065ca-2733-47ef-92a2-76d0741ecb11
PartyTimeGuy
07-07-19, 16:38
Has anyone met these? They look pro to me.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0a081623-a962-4f08-91be-6472c936dee0
Seems cool and pics shared are TGTBT.
https://www.seeking.com/member/56c03774-4f75-4ac9-a57b-2e031804bd32
https://www.seeking.com/member/008065ca-2733-47ef-92a2-76d0741ecb11They're all "pro. " They are advertising that they are willing to have sex for dough. The only issue left is the fantasy and not the reality; that is, do they give you an amateur-like GFE at a reasonable rate.
PartyTimeGuy
07-08-19, 10:54
Been on vacation. Catching up to the 5 course meal I promised.
We already had A Taste and The First Course So here is the appetizer. Bon appetit!
Has anyone met these? They look pro to me.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0a081623-a962-4f08-91be-6472c936dee0
Seems cool and pics shared are TGTBT.
https://www.seeking.com/member/56c03774-4f75-4ac9-a57b-2e031804bd32
https://www.seeking.com/member/008065ca-2733-47ef-92a2-76d0741ecb11I talked to the first one a while back, Sarah. She seemed really cool. We chatted on the site and texted a bit. From what I remember, she wanted 400 per meet and wanted to meet in NJ. I can't remember if that was just the first time or if she didn't want to come over to PA at all. She was willing to do an unpaid meet and greet, so that tends to rule out the true full-time pros, but I got the idea this wasn't her first time. She seemed intelligent and I bet she's a good time. But I ended up finding a better option, so I never met her.
I couldn't find her real name or social media from her phone number, which means it was probably a burner or text app.
I don'why see why you'd think these girls are TGTBT. I've found and had successful arrangements with equally good-looking girls. You just have to be patient to find them.
I met this girl for lunch a while back. I didn't find her as attractive in person as her photos at the time, although her photos posted now may be more accurate. She's a nice girl, a little quiet. I decided to pass, but she was good with 250/ meet.
https://www.seeking.com/member/433e1a54-eeab-49f9-9b80-3ead83dc0447
This one is real. She's classy, intelligent and sexy, I bet she'd be really fun. But her body type definitely isn't slim by anyone's reasonable definition. Her old photos were deceptive, and I had found her social media and she used to be much slimmer. Her new photos more accurately represent her body. She wants a monthly arrangement of around 3 k or will do PPM for 500. These are asking prices, not sure if she'd negotiate but I wasn't that interested, I prefer slim girls.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b68e2856-f9b6-4832-8bf8-54eedaff2e96
Talked to this one a while back, she wanted 300 per meet. Seems fun, but flaky with communication. And she was only available evenings at the time. I never actually met her so I can't promise she's real.
https://www.seeking.com/member/11bcf514-f161-4ba8-9aad-d40f205d7465
This one wants 700 per meet or more. Didn't actually meet her.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0a5babf8-f121-4c92-9760-24765d45eb35
Has anyone met / talked to these? I'm very curious.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5323678e-8777-41db-a380-65fd567a2b1e
https://www.seeking.com/member/dab2ef47-0df1-4493-8fe8-cf15cbf2207c
https://www.seeking.com/member/3d2d9298-0571-4497-ac67-0235cdd59fac
Convo was normal about meeting up and everything. Then asked if they could get some help before meeting in exchange for pics.
Stupidly went along with it. Disappeared.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b32d2e38-c23c-44c1-8651-378f8d021b07
Apothecary
07-11-19, 01:01
I talked to the first one a while back, Sarah. She seemed really cool. We chatted on the site and texted a bit. From what I remember, she wanted 400 per meet and wanted to meet in NJ. I can't remember if that was just the first time or if she didn't want to come over to PA at all. She was willing to do an unpaid meet and greet, so that tends to rule out the true full-time pros, but I got the idea this wasn't her first time. She seemed intelligent and I bet she's a good time. But I ended up finding a better option, so I never met her.
I couldn't find her real name or social media from her phone number, which means it was probably a burner or text app.
I don'why see why you'd think these girls are TGTBT. I've found and had successful arrangements with equally good-looking girls. You just have to be patient to find them.The only reason I said that was because she seems to have two profiles with different names.
Apothecary
07-11-19, 01:11
This one is real. She's classy, intelligent and sexy, I bet she'd be really fun. But her body type definitely isn't slim by anyone's reasonable definition. Her old photos were deceptive, and I had found her social media and she used to be much slimmer. Her new photos more accurately represent her body. She wants a monthly arrangement of around 3 k or will do PPM for 500. These are asking prices, not sure if she'd negotiate but I wasn't that interested, I prefer slim girls.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b68e2856-f9b6-4832-8bf8-54eedaff2e96
Talked to this one a while back, she wanted 300 per meet. Seems fun, but flaky with communication. And she was only available evenings at the time. I never actually met her so I can't promise she's real.
https://www.seeking.com/member/11bcf514-f161-4ba8-9aad-d40f205d7465
This one wants 700 per meet or more. Didn't actually meet her.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0a5babf8-f121-4c92-9760-24765d45eb35The first one, silkbath. I think I had a dream. Good conversation but somewhat edgy, some kind of artist if memory serves me right. Limited menu was available. Not slim but natural Ds. I don't like such dreams.
The first one, silkbath. I think I had a dream. Good conversation but somewhat edgy, some kind of artist if memory serves me right. Limited menu was available. Not slim but natural Ds. I don't like such dreams.Yes, she said she was studying art. I am a little surprised at the limited menu but I also know that she wanted a long-term arrangement, so that might change over time. But I prefer a slim body type, and she's definitely not. I had found her facebook and it had some old photos, in a few of those she was quite slim. After we met I found her instagram and it's much more up to date. Glad I passed even though we had a nice intellectual connection.
The only reason I said that was because she seems to have two profiles with different names.Gotcha, I didn't know she had two profiles. She may be a scam of some kind, although from our conversation I did think she was real. She never asked for cash up front or anything.
Apothecary
07-11-19, 23:46
Yes, she said she was studying art. I am a little surprised at the limited menu but I also know that she wanted a long-term arrangement, so that might change over time. But I prefer a slim body type, and she's definitely not. I had found her facebook and it had some old photos, in a few of those she was quite slim. After we met I found her instagram and it's much more up to date. Glad I passed even though we had a nice intellectual connection.She is generally nice with good conversation, but she kept asking somewhat personal details. Her expectation was certainly long term and what you got PPM / monthly was right. Certainly not a good dream at all at that PPM. Natural Ds sometimes make your head spin and your mind does not make the right decision. Lessons learned.
Gotcha, I didn't know she had two profiles. She may be a scam of some kind, although from our conversation I did think she was real. She never asked for cash up front or anything.Anytime almost nude pix start flowing w / o asking then spiders in head should start crawling and that's almost guaranteed pro sign. LOL. So better safe than sorry, especially with SBs in NJ.
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Anytime almost nude pix start flowing w / o asking then spiders in head should start crawling and that's almost guaranteed pro sign. LOL. So better safe than sorry, especially with SBs in NJ.True. I definitely got the feeling that Sarah is a pro. Which there's nothing wrong with, but the absolute best experiences I've had on SA have been with college students who haven't done this before or who maybe had one or two previous arrangements. And yes, all of them tell you they've had one or two but you can tell when they're being honest.
Duuuuuuude
07-18-19, 06:31
I'm in Baltimore, but got a hit from this one in Philly.
Anyone got anything on her? Looks really damn fine.
Fine enough that I'd make regular trips.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6b379a66-8a56-475e-8be4-7028ffc73237
ReadyToTumble
07-18-19, 14:30
True. I definitely got the feeling that Sarah is a pro. Which there's nothing wrong with, but the absolute best experiences I've had on SA have been with college students who haven't done this before or who maybe had one or two previous arrangements. And yes, all of them tell you they've had one or two but you can tell when they're being honest.I tried to send you info but your box is jammed.
I'm looking to trade intel. I have a lot.
Apothecary
07-20-19, 01:23
I'm in Baltimore, but got a hit from this one in Philly.
Anyone got anything on her? Looks really damn fine.
Fine enough that I'd make regular trips.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6b379a66-8a56-475e-8be4-7028ffc73237She barely replied to messages. Could not get anywhere. Did you get her ph#? Based on private pix that she shared, I am a bit skeptical, but can't say much. Let us know if you get lucky.
TallDaddy69
07-27-19, 12:51
Long time lurker.
Curious if anyone would like to compare notes on this one.
https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/37a08e63-d0fa-46ac-86fd-83372eb1e11c
Thanks.
https://www.seeking.com/member/15cbb50b-3522-4438-bdd9-d55a02f2df4b
We text offline. She wants $300. I did not try to negotiate. Can host. Will go raw but no greek. I decided to pass. She is too thick for me.
MerryIvory
07-27-19, 15:11
Long time lurker.
Curious if anyone would like to compare notes on this one.
https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/37a08e63-d0fa-46ac-86fd-83372eb1e11c
Thanks.This is a link to your inbox, not her profile.
Apothecary
07-28-19, 00:57
Any intel on this one?
https://www.seeking.com/member/8dfe7045-2b63-a2f7-d913-f8e4a7b5edcd
Hard to reach, but we finally connected. Almost setup a date, was all good for FC. But now wants M&G first and something for that also.
Not sure, on fence.
TallDaddy69
07-28-19, 06:52
This is a link to your inbox, not her profile.My apologies, looks like her account is not active.
Her last 4 digits are 1962.
Any intel on this one?
https://www.seeking.com/member/8dfe7045-2b63-a2f7-d913-f8e4a7b5edcd
Hard to reach, but we finally connected. Almost setup a date, was all good for FC. But now wants M&G first and something for that also.
Not sure, on fence.Don't ever pay these girls just for a meet up. I'd move on, don't waste your money.
Socalcasualguy
07-28-19, 22:03
Don't ever pay these girls just for a meet up. I'd move on, don't waste your money.Agreed!! Never pay for a M&G-way too easily to be scammed.
Also, reading over her profile, she wants a first date to be dinner and shopping- not a good thing to see in a SB profile, unless you want to get suckered into buying her stuff, without any return on your investment.
Apothecary
07-29-19, 01:02
Agreed!! Never pay for a M&G-way too easily to be scammed.
Also, reading over her profile, she wants a first date to be dinner and shopping- not a good thing to see in a SB profile, unless you want to get suckered into buying her stuff, without any return on your investment.
Don't ever pay these girls just for a meet up. I'd move on, don't waste your money.Absolutely. I am totally against that too just wanted to see if anyone had seen her. Thanks guys.
She is a pro that hosts in her apartment in NE Philly. The place is ok and clean enough. She has put on weight since the pictures. She is nice enough but in my opinion not worth the $300 advertised rate. Her skills are not really great and little rushed. She would probably take less if pressed. https://www.seeking.com/member/15cbb50b-3522-4438-bdd9-d55a02f2df4b.
Apothecary
08-05-19, 00:21
She looks like a great MILF.
https://www.seeking.com/member/91f55ce4-a3d6-f91b-dd21-4a342d1530c5
Any thoughts?
Comehither
08-05-19, 06:44
She looks like a great MILF.
https://www.seeking.com/member/91f55ce4-a3d6-f91b-dd21-4a342d1530c5
Any thoughts?She is definitely a provider with the paper holding up her name and date. Just my 2 cents.
SportsMan331
08-05-19, 07:53
She looks like a great MILF.
https://www.seeking.com/member/91f55ce4-a3d6-f91b-dd21-4a342d1530c5
Any thoughts?Maybe she is a Provide (likely) maybe not. I don't care.
That is one of the more killer-bodies for a woman her (admitted) age that I've ever seen.
BTW, she is doing exercises that I couldn't even attempt!! She has got to be in great shape, congrats to her.
I hope I'm lucky enough to get a meet.
I have been messaging this one she seems dtf anyone have any experience with her https://www.seeking.com/member/7cc95370-51ca-41c4-b2b4-489ff07ea4b4.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5c6fbd32-911a-467c-8028-54980c2cd55a
This one messaged me first with her SC handle. Lives in Limerick, but is about to start college in York. After some messaging back and forth, I broached the subject of intimacy, but then she blocked me on SC. I guess she's not looking for anything physical, LOL. Avoid.
TerOnlyOnce123
08-18-19, 14:30
I love using SA in philly. I've been on it for like 3 years now. I've fucked so many girls on the site. It's a blessing. Tons of decent looking chicks and chicks of all body types. Met with a number of big tit girls on there. Like J cup big. Fucking really fun stuff. I don't pay these girls stupid high amounts though. I see guys here paying the girls $300 for a session of sex? Holy shit what a waste of money LOL. I pay these girls $50-80 MAX. I frame the arrangement differently and go for non pro girls. If you go for pros then you're going to get stupid high rates. If you go for normal college girls that are curious you can negoitate a really low rate. You need to be younger though, such as below 30 or around there. I'm tempted to pay for membership and hop back on. Just go through the grind and start hitting up girls as usual.
I pay these girls $50-80 MAX. I frame the arrangement differently and go for non pro girls. If you go for pros then you're going to get stupid high rates. If you go for normal college girls that are curious you can negoitate a really low rate. You need to be younger though, such as below 30 or around there. Frame the arrangement differently? Please explain young one so we oldsters can learn.
This one starts out all innocent and acts like she is new to the scene. Then she tells you all of the hard times and wants you to send money to help her out. Usual scammer.
BusterDaddy
08-25-19, 21:40
Anyone have any info on her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/0f4f48bb-b9f0-44ca-a9ae-07a5808f4295
I messaged with her a few times, she is asking for $300 PPM. But kinda hinted she might go lower.
I think she used to work over by the Huntingdon and Somerset stations on the EL. That was a few years ago, even then she looked like a SB. So I guess she stuck out in my mind.
BusterDaddy
08-25-19, 21:46
Maybe she is a Provide (likely) maybe not. I don't care.
That is one of the more killer-bodies for a woman her (admitted) age that I've ever seen.
BTW, she is doing exercises that I couldn't even attempt!! She has got to be in great shape, congrats to her.
I hope I'm lucky enough to get a meet.She's not a pro, but she does do a lot of SB work. (The paper she is holding is for site verification, probably Reddit.) With me she insisted on a M&G first, I think she is truly looking for an allowance, but is good with PPM.
She's even stronger than you think she is, LOL. I need my women way more submissive, but she's definitely knows what guys want.
TooMuchFunz
08-26-19, 14:09
Anyone have any info on her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/0f4f48bb-b9f0-44ca-a9ae-07a5808f4295
I messaged with her a few times, she is asking for $300 PPM. But kinda hinted she might go lower.
I think she used to work over by the Huntingdon and Somerset stations on the EL. That was a few years ago, even then she looked like a SB. So I guess she stuck out in my mind.I know she has been an escort in the past, wouldn't surprise me if she was a street walker at one time. Typical escort, she doesn't want M&G and she doesn't need to be wined and dined. I've been with her a few times at $200, and I know my buddy got her for less than that. She makes good chit chat, and definitely knows what's she's doing. She is real petite, but her body is a bit banged up. Really tight and really works to help you finish if you're having trouble. No greek, which was a surprise based on her attitude.
I know she has been an escort in the past, wouldn't surprise me if she was a street walker at one time. Typical escort, she doesn't want M&G and she doesn't need to be wined and dined. I've been with her a few times at $200, and I know my buddy got her for less than that. She makes good chit chat, and definitely knows what's she's doing. She is real petite, but her body is a bit banged up. Really tight and really works to help you finish if you're having trouble. No greek, which was a surprise based on her attitude.I don't know her past, but what others are saying doesn't surprise me. She's really pretty, looks killer in tights with her bra on. I agree with TooMuchFunz about her tits being banged up. Her age on SA was 32, I think she's late 30's. You can get her for $200 and I think she is worth it if she actually shows up. First date, she talked just long enough, then blew me good and hard and gave me the best doggy I've ever had. She's a spinner and she really knows how to work. Getting a second date took a lot of effort, but again she delivered. She's what my buddy calls a cock whisperer, she clearly know how's to take care of a guy's needs. She cancelled three times in a row after that.
SportsMan331
08-30-19, 20:51
So, I signed up for SA. Within 2 weeks I have more than a dozen responses. I will let you guys know how it goes. So far, just setting up texting.
SportsMan331
09-16-19, 13:41
So, I signed up for SA. Within 2 weeks I have more than a dozen responses. I will let you guys know how it goes. So far, just setting up texting.Just an update. Lots of messaging back and forth, lots of hits. So far, no action, just a lot of time wasted.
I think SA is a bunch of in-betweeners: They can't make up their minds if they want a relationship or they want the $$.
Most of them seem to need the $$, just don't want to see themselves as ******. They are most of them, whoring, just want to paint it prettier.
Generally, at $500 they are all for whoring; at $200 they want a relationship!!
In almost every study conducted on the subject, the preferred "type" of female for most males is young and skinny. And most of my SBs fit this very description with the additional desirable quality of cute or pretty. But there is something to be said for girls that are average looking and / or on the chubby side. For one thing they have spent their whole lives in the shadows of the prettier, skinnier more popular girls. So when they get a chance to show their stuff they are usually quite eager to please and be appreciated. That brings us to "Sex Slave SB. " Average looking and chubby. Very nice tits. Not necessarily the first girl one might pick if given a wider selection of cuties and spinners. But attitude? One of the best.
I recently read a very interesting book: "Perv, The Sexual Deviant in All of Us. " Science says there are secret fetishes in all of us and each particular suite of desired deviance is as unique as a fingerprint. With this girl I have an opportunity to leave prints all over the place. This girl will do ANYthing to please. Give the boys a tongue bath for an hour? Sure. Lick ass while slowly teasing cock. Absolutely. Role play? ATM? Face painting? Getting tied up? Blindfolds? Handcuffs? Shrimping? Golden shower with swallow? Gang bang? Snowball with a gf? Suck off the pizza deliverer? If I can think of it she will do it, and with no hesitation, a smile and a fervent desire to please me. She is completely dedicated to my every perverted pleasure, my own personal sex slave, ready to quite willingly do whatever I desire. Every SD needs a few of these in his stable.
Life IS very good my brothers.How did you find her? Delivering pizza? Is she still around?
Intelligence is usually not something we necessarily seek in a SB. But when we find it, smarts can be quite intriguing. It leads to imagination and interesting conversation, which can be more prized when one is meeting frequently with a woman. The sex is more varied and far less predictable. And when sensual imagination crosses the line to the dark side, the fantasies can be very stimulating indeed. A girl who is submissive and kinky not because she is a doormat and weak but rather because she is willfully resourceful, canny and strong and chooses to submit: that is an intoxication that is rare indeed.
Here is a taste. The taste is tame, but it portends a five course meal that satisfies in every way. Soup, salad, appetizer, entree and dessert to follow.Where do you find them.
She is gorgeous. I would do anything to be with her!!
Has anyone met / talked to these? I'm very curious.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5323678e-8777-41db-a380-65fd567a2b1e
https://www.seeking.com/member/dab2ef47-0df1-4493-8fe8-cf15cbf2207c
https://www.seeking.com/member/3d2d9298-0571-4497-ac67-0235cdd59facHi, the third lady, the one who is 6'0" just came up on a search I did. Did you have any luck with her?
Out of curiosity, has anyone had contact with these girls? I'm writing or texting with them all, I'll post if / when I have first-hand info to share.
Flaky with messaging, but I know she's real since I found her social media:
https://www.seeking.com/member/1034089c-1432-4514-8ffb-798d32533a3bDid you ever meet up with Taylor?
https://www.seeking.com/member/09aab356-fa9a-4825-9a05-db1dfd78a9ef
I've been with her a couple of times. She just recently texted me and said she was looking to make some quick cash. For $250 she does a ton of work, doesn't say no to anything, and is fun to drink with / talk to. She's always on time, always puts effort into her appearance and definitely focuses on the guys needs.
I originally posted this in General Reports but to honest this is probably a better place for this post. This girl is 25, petite dirty blondish, perfect body, full GFE and her rate is more in line with Sugar Baby prices. Years ago she was misbehaving more so she knows the routine but she has been out of the game for about 5 years. She is DDF. Yes she is bright eyes and she drives! Very reliable and aims to please. Lives in the city and has limited availability weekdays and more available hours most weekends. Pm for contact if you understand this is not an Ave girl. She's not even an escort. She's a legit civilian with an understanding of how this all works. She's looking for solid guys.
I originally posted this in General Reports but to honest this is probably a better place for this post. This girl is 25, petite dirty blondish, perfect body, full GFE and her rate is more in line with Sugar Baby prices. Years ago she was misbehaving more so she knows the routine but she has been out of the game for about 5 years. She is DDF. Yes she is bright eyes and she drives! Very reliable and aims to please. Lives in the city and has limited availability weekdays and more available hours most weekends. Pm for contact if you understand this is not an Ave girl. She's not even an escort. She's a legit civilian with an understanding of how this all works. She's looking for solid guys.Can you post her link.
Treasuretrover
10-29-19, 01:44
Convo was normal about meeting up and everything. Then asked if they could get some help before meeting in exchange for pics.
Stupidly went along with it. Disappeared.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b32d2e38-c23c-44c1-8651-378f8d021b07Pretty sure that I saw a profile with the second pic very recently. Favorited it just in case but can't find it now. Thanks for the heads up.
Treasuretrover
10-29-19, 02:05
I talked to the first one a while back, Sarah. She seemed really cool. We chatted on the site and texted a bit. From what I remember, she wanted 400 per meet and wanted to meet in NJ. I can't remember if that was just the first time or if she didn't want to come over to PA at all. She was willing to do an unpaid meet and greet, so that tends to rule out the true full-time pros, but I got the idea this wasn't her first time. She seemed intelligent and I bet she's a good time. But I ended up finding a better option, so I never met her.
I couldn't find her real name or social media from her phone number, which means it was probably a burner or text app.
I don'why see why you'd think these girls are TGTBT. I've found and had successful arrangements with equally good-looking girls. You just have to be patient to find them.Is this Sarah? I remember this one having another profile in the past, using that name, and she is in South Jersey.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b39a1554-36a7-42d3-b09a-95a2b4baa1c0
Thanks.
YellowLuvin
10-31-19, 00:15
Is this Sarah? I remember this one having another profile in the past, using that name, and she is in South Jersey.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b39a1554-36a7-42d3-b09a-95a2b4baa1c0
Thanks.Yes that is Sarah.She is real asking for 400 a meet but she is higher volume than she claims.
Burbs Monger
10-31-19, 17:33
Is anybody using or having success with the other SB site with the same initials? Unsure if I can post the name. I am a recent member and doesn't seem to be as good as SA, BUT I just landed a terrific find recently. She is the typical college student needing rent and tuition money but understands how the game is played. Very few rules and a rocking body. I am just curious if anybody else is using that site. Before I get slammed with PMs, I am not sharing any info on her until I have established ground rules with her and developed a solid foundation with her.
Be Safe.
Socalcasualguy
11-03-19, 11:42
Is anybody using or having success with the other SB site with the same initials? Unsure if I can post the name. I am a recent member and doesn't seem to be as good as SA, BUT I just landed a terrific find recently. She is the typical college student needing rent and tuition money but understands how the game is played. Very few rules and a rocking body. I am just curious if anybody else is using that site. Before I get slammed with PMs, I am not sharing any info on her until I have established ground rules with her and developed a solid foundation with her.
Be Safe.I've not had much luck on the site. Get a million messages, then when finally sign up and pay, and reply to the messages- nothing. Nothing at all. I think SA is a better option.
Burbs Monger
11-06-19, 23:03
I have sent like 100 messages and have only hooked up with two, so not a great return rate but they are excellent options. I agree that SA was much more lucrative, maybe I should join again. Thanks for responding.
Be Safe.
I've not had much luck on the site. Get a million messages, then when finally sign up and pay, and reply to the messages- nothing. Nothing at all. I think SA is a better option.
FreeSpiritFet
11-07-19, 15:16
Anyone has tried rent a friend? Any luck?
I have sent like 100 messages and have only hooked up with two, so not a great return rate but they are excellent options. I agree that SA was much more lucrative, maybe I should join again. Thanks for responding.
Be Safe.
TerOnlyOnce1
11-08-19, 23:09
SA can be great but it's a lot of work. Most of the time you're sending messages and texting to schedule meets up. It's difficult to find a girl that will consistently meet you. But it can be done. Things usually die out after 1-3 months of dating, kudos to those that are able to find something very long lasting. I'm basically on the site year round. Always sending messages, picking up some lays here and there, and hoping I can land my next fuck buddy. I always pay around 70-80 bucks per hang out and I let the girls know this early on, it helps if you're younger. If you're early 30's or higher then expect to shell out more cash, may be able to get away with cheaper rates between 30-32 but older than that and it gets difficult.
Most of the girls on the site aren't interested in fucking. I'd say about 80% aren't. Within that 80% you have time wasters, platonics, girls trying to sell you pictures, etc. I'd say around 20-30% of the girls on there are actually down to fuck. In this group of girls you also need to filter out the unattractive ones so really you're only left with a small chunk of decent / attractive girls that are willing to meet and fuck you. And within this small chunk there are even less that are willing to consistently be your fuck buddy.
It truly is a grind. Good luck folks.
A favorite Utr has a request for new friends. Pm for details. It's a unique opportunity and she's probably not everyone's cup of tea.
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