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H Mobius
07-03-16, 13:28
Probably would work off-Kapiolani; like Young, upper-Keeaumoku, King, Punchbowl, Piikoi, and Beretania streets; get some plenty potential for that kine away from proposed developments and rail components.Oh, I meant town in general going the way of the dinosaur.

Viet Whisperer
07-03-16, 15:12
I was guessing the BS girls were looking for another "play" bar. That's why Canal, Waterfall and Five-0 came to mind. Green Tee does have the upstairs room! The BS girls are also older and will have a harder time in Kapiolani with the somewhat younger girls.Don't see them fitting in too well at Green Tee but who knows. It doesn't seem like that upstairs room gets used very often other than for a drunken nap LOL.

BeaverLiquor
07-03-16, 16:25
Probably would work off-Kapiolani; like Young, upper-Keeaumoku, King, Punchbowl, Piikoi, and Beretania streets; get some plenty potential for that kine away from proposed developments and rail components.Wasn't that the idea when they made ginza west. Behind eagle cafe on nimitz. Have all the korean bars move all in one place away from the nicer town areas. Good idea / concept. But it never caught on.

MisterLee
07-04-16, 12:36
Although the displaced Blue Sea KBGs may not be anyone's first choice, take a gander and maybe they could become alternates (no, I'm not their pimp) to the already busy first choices. I'm not advocating the BSKBGs, just maybe shop and take a look around first before zeroing / locking-in on just one target. I would lock-in on some BBQ smoked beef hindquarter; roast pork OK, too.My first choice would have always been New Casino. They posted a menu on the wall Mon-Sun for free food. Tuesday spagetti was my choice. The KBG's were hot too. Many times, couldn't find a seat in the house.

MitsFunai
07-04-16, 14:04
Wasn't that the idea when they made ginza west. Behind eagle cafe on nimitz. Have all the korean bars move all in one place away from the nicer town areas. Good idea / concept. But it never caught on.Ginza West was a "nice try" concept but with only one passage way in / out, many thought of it as a DUI trap. It would have worked if was like Japan; take taxi and nobody drives while drinking because of the stiff penalties. A bar district concept would work if everything within walking distance and transportation costs weren't so expensive. Just my opinion.

Allbust
07-04-16, 15:55
Is it true that both Splash and Starlight will have a grand opening on July 5, 6, & 7? Haven't seen anything in the Star Advertiser. Only been hearing it through the KBG wireless.

Happy 4th of July!

HurdMan2003
07-06-16, 04:18
Is it true that both Splash and Starlight will have a grand opening on July 5, 6, & 7? Haven't seen anything in the Star Advertiser. Only been hearing it through the KBG wireless.

Happy 4th of July!Did you find out, if it's true?

Jaritsuh
07-06-16, 14:47
Did you find out, if it's true?I had to pickup my lady friend and was in the area earlier, met her and her girlfriends for lunch. I stopped by Ashley's place on way home to buy her a Good Luck Drink and she said opening was Yesterday. The former Vietnamese owner took out some big screen tv's and there was a flap over that and the fish tank is gone. Was one of the few things in that place besides the bathroom I liked. Anyway saw Han and her friend there guess they moved over from Splash.

Splash opening was last night as well had fresh corned beef, Chicken, salad, fried rice etc. To answer you both. Go support the Korean Economy and go spend some money and find out. Be safe guys and watch out as always for the guys and gals in blue.

Allbust
07-06-16, 23:04
Did you find out, if it's true?Will try to check them out tonight if schedule permits me. If not, then I will go on Thursday.

Peace out.

HurdMan2003
07-06-16, 23:08
I had to pickup my lady friend and was in the area earlier, met her and her girlfriends for lunch. I stopped by Ashley's place on way home to buy her a Good Luck Drink and she said opening was Yesterday. The former Vietnamese owner took out some big screen tv's and there was a flap over that and the fish tank is gone. Was one of the few things in that place besides the bathroom I liked. Anyway saw Han and her friend there guess they moved over from Splash.

Splash opening was last night as well had fresh corned beef, Chicken, salad, fried rice etc. To answer you both. Go support the Korean Economy and go spend some money and find out. Be safe guys and watch out as always for the guys and gals in blue.Thanks, I will.

MisterLee
07-08-16, 13:22
Wow,. Talk about recycle. Went there and saw just a few I've never seen before. Had to tiptoe in there to prevent getting shot by them stray bullets. I got 3 partners there. Think I just better go on Sunday's or daytime and stay with my friend Johnnie Blue.

Kaina2076
07-08-16, 18:08
At least I think the name is still Starlight. Anyway Ashley's new place on Sheridan St. Stopped by Thurs arriving 7:45 leaving about 10 p. Sat at the bar with good view of activity and the door. When I arrived the bar was packed with the usual suspects there for the free grand opening food leaving minimal tips on departure. Night shift bartenders were Rain and Mini (Min Hee). They both spent the entire time I was there sitting outside the bar with customers. Dae Woo was the barback so bar service was excellent. Ashley of course was present and did her best to be the welcoming Mama. BUT despite this being the 3rd night of the Grand Opening there was in my opinion a surprising lack of girls. There was however a nice contigent of Chinese girls (4). This would include Wendy previously at Splash and briefly 904. Add in a few (very few) been around the block KBG's and that was the extent of the talent. I would have thought that this opening would have attracted a few more girls wanting to at least check it out. But not so. I like Ashley and wish her the best but this luke warm start does not bode well.

Kaina.

Baboozer
07-09-16, 05:03
At least I think the name is still Starlight. Anyway Ashley's new place on Sheridan St. Stopped by Thurs arriving 7:45 leaving about 10 p. Sat at the bar with good view of activity and the door. When I arrived the bar was packed with the usual suspects there for the free grand opening food leaving minimal tips on departure. Night shift bartenders were Rain and Mini (Min Hee). They both spent the entire time I was there sitting outside the bar with customers. Dae Woo was the barback so bar service was excellent. Ashley of course was present and did her best to be the welcoming Mama. BUT despite this being the 3rd night of the Grand Opening there was in my opinion a surprising lack of girls. There was however a nice contigent of Chinese girls (4). This would include Wendy previously at Splash and briefly 904. Add in a few (very few) been around the block KBG's and that was the extent of the talent. I would have thought that this opening would have attracted a few more girls wanting to at least check it out. But not so. I like Ashley and wish her the best but this luke warm start does not bode well.

Kaina.I like how you said the usual suspects. Cheap ass charlies leaving minimal tip or no tip at all probably. "L"= Losers. I was in the Westside today. Green Apple & Acacia. Too much food as always. I'm not much of an eater heresay but damn too much. Heading west to EC in Kalihi. Again way too much grind age to the point of having to take it home except for them big oysters which was ono. Free? Idk nuttin is free for you free loading no tipping frickas. No worries we always get good grinds no matter where we go. No worries you not messing up stuff for those that appreciate.

John Ross
07-09-16, 07:02
You know, I've seen these cheapskates at the anniversaries, grand openings. And can't fathom why the staff still serves them. Some of the girls I know tell me fuck them. They want this, they want that and they leave a couple dollars after feasting on steak, shrimp, poke. The girls don't serve them, so they go and sit at the bar. The bartenders avoid the cheapskates, so they have the barbacks serve them. Either buy the barbacks a few drinks for serving you, or drop a good sized tip starting with $20.

John Ross
07-09-16, 07:54
Two already had tucks and 'nips;" another two or three could make it due to their skills (in the dark) in Kapiolani, but they all going have hard time without their regulars tagging along from now defunct Blue Sea. No surprise that they going try look for one discreet place to "work" but in KBs no such thing as totally secret (so good one guessing the above referenced three KBs). Get some reliable sources right here so we'll see what happens; I'll post who, when, and where if encountered. As previously mentioned, never ask where they was going, but wasn't that interested due to reliability of grapevine comm.The majority of the BS ladies have landed at Waterfall.

MitsFunai
07-09-16, 12:26
The majority of the BS ladies have landed at Waterfall.You're right, three (possibly four) of them are at Waterfall for now; one or two still stay vacation. There is talk of a Blue Sea 2 at an undisclosed location (probable, but highly unlikely, imo) at this time; no make sense but that's when things usually work. I had referenced encountering Cheap Charles in prior posts and often wonder how they possess the audacity to behave as beggars and paupers in a retail business establishment; being real cheap is often the product of a sickness; emotionally disturbed. I ain't no big spender but pay my way (and more) so that I no owe anybody anything and can go anyplace without regrets.

MitsFunai
07-09-16, 12:35
The majority of the BS ladies have landed at Waterfall.You're right, three (possibly four) of them are at Waterfall for now; one or two still stay vacation. There is talk of a Blue Sea 2 at an undisclosed location (probable, but highly unlikely, imo) at this time; no make sense but that's when things usually work. I had referenced encountering Cheap Charles in prior posts and often wonder how they possess the audacity to behave as beggars and paupers in a retail business establishment; being real cheap is often the product of a sickness; emotionally disturbed. I ain't no big spender but pay my way (and more) so that I no owe anybody anything and can go anyplace without regrets.

BeaverLiquor
07-09-16, 14:55
Agree about the cheap Charlie's. They making it bad for all the rest of us. I always appreciate when the girls make / bring food, and yup, I have that old fashioned sense of obligation. And so always buy drinks and end up over tipping.

Viet Whisperer
07-09-16, 16:24
You guys beat me to it. Yes Blue Sea ladies have invaded Waterfall LOL. They on the prowl for sure. You've been warned so don't be scared now. Have fun.

Jaritsuh
07-09-16, 21:51
You know, I've seen these cheapskates at the anniversaries, grand openings. And can't fathom why the staff still serves them. Some of the girls I know tell me fuck them. They want this, they want that and they leave a couple dollars after feasting on steak, shrimp, poke. The girls don't serve them, so they go and sit at the bar. The bartenders avoid the cheapskates, so they have the barbacks serve them. Either buy the barbacks a few drinks for serving you, or drop a good sized tip starting with $20.It's the younger generation as a whole, that's why the bartenders only cater to those that take care of them, like you, I take care so when I go into a bar the ladies if they know me ask first if I am hungry, "what you like to eat" I always turn them down for food. I have my drink and then go, I always leave enough to cover what I had drunk and tip for the bartender. IF YOU YOUNG GUYS STILL FOLLOWING THOSE THAT PREACH EAT AND RUN THOSE DAYS ARE OVER. The Korean bars are in a sorry state and it's not getting better. If you not going leave tip, if no leave tip no go, drink at home you cheap asses are making it hard for the rest of us. . and you know who you are, the bartenders know too, why you have to ask the bar backs and even they get stiffed at times. This is an expensive hobby if you can't afford it drink at a local sports bar not a Korean Bar. The $ will go further and you can still get your buzz. You no more shame go to the bar and have to sponge off the bar backs and good nature of the bartenders. Shame on you guys especially the older ones that do this. You guys know better. The food costs are fixed and only go up I'd you go to a restaurant and have the same what would you pay? At least leave that much and no not talking about Yummies fast korean food. I mean places you go into and spend some money for food. For christ sake.

DarthTyranus
07-10-16, 04:10
At least I think the name is still Starlight. Anyway Ashley's new place on Sheridan St. Stopped by Thurs arriving 7:45 leaving about 10 p. Sat at the bar with good view of activity and the door. When I arrived the bar was packed with the usual suspects there for the free grand opening food leaving minimal tips on departure. Night shift bartenders were Rain and Mini (Min Hee). They both spent the entire time I was there sitting outside the bar with customers. Dae Woo was the barback so bar service was excellent. Ashley of course was present and did her best to be the welcoming Mama. BUT despite this being the 3rd night of the Grand Opening there was in my opinion a surprising lack of girls. There was however a nice contigent of Chinese girls (4). This would include Wendy previously at Splash and briefly 904. Add in a few (very few) been around the block KBG's and that was the extent of the talent. I would have thought that this opening would have attracted a few more girls wanting to at least check it out. But not so. I like Ashley and wish her the best but this luke warm start does not bode well.

Kaina.Haven't been to a KB in a long long time. Was cajoled into going. It reminds me of international. The money at the bars isn't as free flowing as it was 10 years ago. It's good place for food and beer. I see a few familiar faces from other bars, but I don't remember their names. I hope this bar does well. The former tenants of this space haven't survived.

John Ross
07-10-16, 07:06
The food costs are fixed and only go up I'd you go to a restaurant and have the same what would you pay? At least leave that much and no not talking about Yummies fast korean food. I mean places you go into and spend some money for food. For christ sake.Even at Yummy's or Blazin Steaks try and order a steak / kalbi plate with shrimp and poke. Something like that will cost $20. At least leave what it costs at a drive in. The staff (kbgs, bartenders, wait staff) all have to tip the kitchen mama at the end of the night. If you order or are given stuff from the menu, not house pupus, cover those costs as someone has to pay for it.

MitsFunai
07-10-16, 10:41
Review of the above-referenced KB (and KBs in general) is lukewarm with not much potential. Pros: new mgmt so atmosphere still relatively a novelty; bartenders servicing the drinks, pupus, and entertaining the bar counter crowd; other veteran KB customers visiting; crowd is relaxed. Cons: bartender (s) go outside too much and set a choppy bar atmosphere; LVB show-offs; parking sucks; same dog, different fleas.

Since the pros outweigh the cons this KB might work but it is, as mentioned, a 'same dog with different fleas. ' Never cared for Splash; they got to take the Splash out of the Starlight and make their own, vibrant way (pun intended). KBs and KBGs are typical and predictable: everything is same-o. Waiting for the one to 'break the mold' but not going happen with their mentality. Not intended to be a personal attack; just imo.

MitsFunai
07-10-16, 11:16
Through the roof, even at the wholesale and distribution levels. Retail? Try go more vegetarian, they go raise the vegetable, fruits, and meatless prices; try go another way, they going track that and raise those prices, too. Let's face it, if you go out it's going to be expensive and perhaps hurtful. Stay home if that isn't appealing instead of trying to squeeze blood from a turnip (from others who make a living from gratuities) and create an unpleasant atmosphere wherever just because of a mental illness. This is my last post regarding this matter.

Ichigo808
07-10-16, 12:44
It's the younger generation as a whole, that's why the bartenders only cater to those that take care of them, like you, I take care so when I go into a bar the ladies if they know me ask first if I am hungry, "what you like to eat" I always turn them down for food. I have my drink and then go, I always leave enough to cover what I had drunk and tip for the bartender. IF YOU YOUNG GUYS STILL FOLLOWING THOSE THAT PREACH EAT AND RUN THOSE DAYS ARE OVER. The Korean bars are in a sorry state and it's not getting better. If you not going leave tip, if no leave tip no go, drink at home you cheap asses are making it hard for the rest of us. . and you know who you are, the bartenders know too, why you have to ask the bar backs and even they get stiffed at times. This is an expensive hobby if you can't afford it drink at a local sports bar not a Korean Bar. The $ will go further and you can still get your buzz. You no more shame go to the bar and have to sponge off the bar backs and good nature of the bartenders. Shame on you guys especially the older ones that do this. You guys know better. The food costs are fixed and only go up I'd you go to a restaurant and have the same what would you pay? At least leave that much and no not talking about Yummies fast korean food. I mean places you go into and spend some money for food. For christ sake.True but not entirely. All the cheapskates I've witnested were mature but not of retirement aged. I'd understand if they were retired and living on a fixed income but the forementioned are the worst. Demanding this and that, no please or thank you'so and barely any tips, no neko's whatsoever. If I was any younger and stupider I'd jacked those frickas up. No class. Stay home for crying out loud. And for those that serve them give them a-holes dried peanuts with the shell on so they got to work for something. I was taught better and I ain't no pake or worse a Chang. Never was never will be.

MisterLee
07-10-16, 12:55
I miss the $5 Pizza guy! What a Deal!!

Johnny14
07-10-16, 13:12
Through the roof, even at the wholesale and distribution levels. Retail? Try go more vegetarian, they go raise the vegetable, fruits, and meatless prices; try go another way, they going track that and raise those prices, too. Let's face it, if you go out it's going to be expensive and perhaps hurtful. Stay home if that isn't appealing instead of trying to squeeze blood from a turnip (from others who make a living from gratuities) and create an unpleasant atmosphere wherever just because of a mental illness. This is my last post regarding this matter.The primary reasons why food costs so much in Hawaii is because of that stupid law requiring shipping vessels to be US flagged ships. The Jones Act.

Just go to any military commissary and check out the costs. Like a quart of milk is less than $5 while at Longs or Star runs about $8. Then of course you got that $10 billion Rail fiaciso with GET tax to support it along with an average $82 price hike on car registration.

Alawai
07-10-16, 14:16
Whatever happened to Sunny, who some years ago was at Kools, Canal and some other clubs in the Kalihi area?

Captin Crunch
07-10-16, 14:28
I like how you said the usual suspects. Cheap ass charlies leaving minimal tip or no tip at all probably. "L"= Losers. I was in the Westside today. Green Apple & Acacia. Too much food as always. I'm not much of an eater heresay but damn too much. Heading west to EC in Kalihi. Again way too much grind age to the point of having to take it home except for them big oysters which was ono. Free? Idk nuttin is free for you free loading no tipping frickas. No worries we always get good grinds no matter where we go. No worries you not messing up stuff for those that appreciate.You was out westside? Long time no go out there. I remember when we were out there for some salty stuffing on TG. Haahaa LOL.

Captin Crunch
07-10-16, 14:30
True but not entirely. All the cheapskates I've witnested were mature but not of retirement aged. I'd understand if they were retired and living on a fixed income but the forementioned are the worst. Demanding this and that, no please or thank you'so and barely any tips, no neko's whatsoever. If I was any younger and stupider I'd jacked those frickas up. No class. Stay home for crying out loud. And for those that serve them give them a-holes dried peanuts with the shell on so they got to work for something. I was taught better and I ain't no pake or worse a Chang. Never was never will be.Maybe for the low or no tippers, the bartender should give them the re-cycled food others never eat and left behind. LOL.

Lualualei808
07-10-16, 15:53
True but not entirely. All the cheapskates I've witnested were mature but not of retirement aged. I'd understand if they were retired and living on a fixed income but the forementioned are the worst. Demanding this and that, no please or thank you'so and barely any tips, no neko's whatsoever. If I was any younger and stupider I'd jacked those frickas up. No class. Stay home for crying out loud. And for those that serve them give them a-holes dried peanuts with the shell on so they got to work for something. I was taught better and I ain't no pake or worse a Chang. Never was never will be.I am short, bald and fugly, and I love the shelled peanuts. Not too many KB's serve them.

John Ross
07-10-16, 17:24
Whatever happened to Sunny, who some years ago was at Kools, Canal and some other clubs in the Kalihi area?She goes by Lisa at Crystal Healing Massage.

Ichigo808
07-10-16, 18:57
You was out westside? Long time no go out there. I remember when we were out there for some salty stuffing on TG. Haahaa LOL.Early drinking PCside then head to d5 side. I still do that unfortunately for you you antisocial prick. Lmao.

TrueTemper
07-11-16, 20:08
Summit going get small kind renovation.

Mr Okada
07-11-16, 22:22
Summit going get small kind renovation.I heard from the day bartender that the mama putting a gameroom next door where the private rooms and bathroom used to be. Times are bad. She has to do what she has to do to survive. Could be trouble though.

WarriorForLife
07-12-16, 05:40
Heard the same thing, let's hope mama does not go over her head, turning that place into the "video" game room, when there is money involves, there will be troubles.

I went there over the weekend, spotted TC mama with some nice tan, must had been spend sometimes playing 18 holes. Her place still the same, young girls come and go, only a few grannies Silvia, Leeann, Jeanie left anchoring the place.

What she is thinking? Please say no to game room, it is going to chase a lot of drinkers away.


I heard from the day bartender that the mama putting a gameroom next door where the private rooms and bathroom used to be. Times are bad. She has to do what she has to do to survive. Could be trouble though.

Viet Whisperer
07-12-16, 10:30
Personally I don't drink with any kbg's who are hooked on those machines. It's worse than a table hopper. Feeding the machine with your neko money is what's on their mind the entire time you sit with them. They are dying to get back to that machine. I'm seeing so many that are totally addicted to it. It's not good for business overall even if it pays the rent. I recently asked for a girl who I wanted to drink with that I had never met but was interested in. She wouldn't come out of the back and leave the machine so I saved money and learned all I needed to know LOL.

Jaritsuh
07-12-16, 14:19
Personally I don't drink with any kbg's who are hooked on those machines. It's worse than a table hopper. Feeding the machine with your neko money is what's on their mind the entire time you sit with them. They are dying to get back to that machine. I'm seeing so many that are totally addicted to it. It's not good for business overall even if it pays the rent. I recently asked for a girl who I wanted to drink with that I had never met but was interested in. She wouldn't come out of the back and leave the machine so I saved money and learned all I needed to know LOL.I guess this is a hazard of the job (besides the alcoholism). Looking for the fast score and cash windfall. I was drinking in Kalihi and in this bar, this one KBG was sucking this one old man dry of his Social Security check, naturally he left when ran out of kala and she promptly turned around and deposited her earnings in that damn video game machine. The owner of these machines is Korean and he has several locations as we all know, but they should hit all the bars and put this guy out of business. All you need is the security code and you into earning money or loosing it, I see guys going every single day to get their quota of the video machines. The same guys every day in and day out, this excludes the KBG's that play the games. The bottom line it adds to the profitability of the Bar as the owners get a share of the take. In this environment the bars need to maximize their earning potential as another brother mentioned in an earlier post and he is right. I believe many bars would loose big time if they were to take these gambling machines out of the bars. This is just my two cents so what is the difference between these machines and the ones that all the flap was about with that Yoshi& kid. I preferred the Yoush (kids machines as you could get a paper receipt for your winnings. And not have to call the bartender to get your earnings. Oh well this could go on and on Gambling has been and always will be part of the human nature they should legalize it and at least tax some of the winnings. It is going on anyway. So why not. Any legislatures reps out there, you listening. At least a lottery. Mega Millions or Powerball would be good. LOL. Nah! Casino of some sort in Waikiki the areas past Kalakaua are seedy anyway might as well. In the military clubs they used to have slot machines not sure about now as it has been awhile but legal on base why not in Waikiki? This is a can of worms and goes on every legislative session but we really need to cut the Boyd Vacations Hawaii strangle hold and get some revenue generation to offset the RAIL!

MitsFunai
07-12-16, 21:10
I guess this is a hazard of the job (besides the alcoholism). Looking for the fast score and cash windfall. Mega Millions or Powerball would be good. LOL. Nah! Casino of some sort in Waikiki the areas past Kalakaua are seedy anyway might as well. In the military clubs they used to have slot machines not sure about now as it has been awhile but legal on base why not in Waikiki? This is a can of worms and goes on every legislative session but we really need to cut the Boyd Vacations Hawaii strangle hold and get some revenue generation to offset the RAIL!I used to go to the bingo games at designated military bases; although gambling, it is run like a party with prizes, buffet, dim sum, take home snacks, etc. (you can play the early games at Hickam and go to the midnight games at Pearl Harbor thereafter); good crowd, mostly wahines and seriously addicted ones. Although an independent lottery would not work here Hawaii can join multi-state lotteries (like California or whatever) permitting local residents to legally purchase tickets. In other words, no need be operated over here; just join an established lottery so us guys can legally play the thing. Already legalized medical (and soon non-medical) pakalolo so what, that's bettah?

I no really like see casinos here because, like any other business, get slow times (like now, past ten years) and get a lot of hurting going on in LV; make the casinos one foreign trade zone here so we get the international and non-local business; need passport or out-of-state identification to get in. The rail going suck everything dry, anyway.

WarriorForLife
07-15-16, 05:24
Guessing the renovation is done, looking from outside there is a heavy duty dark tinted door, look like it's sound proof by judging the construction of the door. So they took out two private rooms and a bathroom for the game room.

Did not try to go inside, don't know if it is in operation. But I have noticed the place is spiked with younger crowd. Talked with one of the grannies, she hated the changes cause it leaves only one very small private room left for the LVBs, golf team, and private party, etc.

WarriorForLife
07-15-16, 05:37
Went to Splash, oh Fox with a very dark tight dress showing off every curves that she has. Tell you what she can down those green bottles in a hurry. I dig her big smile and happy go lucky personality. Was told by her she does not have a BF, and is looking for one.

Anyway sat with her for about one hour, my wallet is about 2 bills short after.

MitsFunai
07-15-16, 12:10
Waterfall will apparently be the hub for the majority or all of the displaced Blue Sea babes (get three or four of them there already). One was at Talent with LVB in tow (never stay long) and other one still vacay; Talent seems to be mismanaged, some out-of-control personnel, and lowlifes that are driving away customers. Entertaining for see the misfits and ensuing dramas.

Captin Crunch
07-15-16, 12:26
Waterfall will apparently be the hub for the majority or all of the displaced Blue Sea babes (get three or four of them there already). One was at Talent with LVB in tow (never stay long) and other one still vacay; Talent seems to be mismanaged, some out-of-control personnel, and lowlifes that are driving away customers. Entertaining for see the misfits and ensuing dramas.Kimmie has joined the other BS girls at Waterfall.

WarriorForLife
07-15-16, 19:05
Is it safe to invest on Ruby at Back to Vegas? She seem nice and claim she does not have a BF, anyone has any 411 on her? PM okay.

MitsFunai
07-15-16, 21:07
Game machine madness actually has a history dating back to the late '70's. Back then, the KBGs and whomever used to wait in their vehicles for the place to open, 6 AM. Now the machines have gone mainstream KB instead of designated-only venues. In fact, a Keeaumoku game room of the '80's was raided and the owner was cited for not paying taxes on $11 million of alleged taxable income; big operation, size of one KB but all machines and the stuff that goes with it such as illegal gambling and drugs. I'm not saying that's happening now (without evidence) but could happen, LOL. Only going mean more problems for KBs and possible exposure to the criminal element by innocent customers.

FawkLuvah
07-16-16, 00:34
Went to Splash, oh Fox with a very dark tight dress showing off every curves that she has. Tell you what she can down those green bottles in a hurry. I dig her big smile and happy go lucky personality. Was told by her she does not have a BF, and is looking for one.

Anyway sat with her for about one hour, my wallet is about 2 bills short after.Wow 2 bills for one hour? So you got to be her bf to give her the D? I will go see the fox then tonight.

WillieWillie
07-16-16, 13:41
I guess this is a hazard of the job (besides the alcoholism). Looking for the fast score and cash windfall.You are so right Senpai. Alcoholism, Gambling, Debt to Loan Sharks. These seem to be the common threads that link so many of the tragic kbg suicides we've seen over the past few years, and some current kbgs that are on the same path. It's especially troubling when you hear from lonely lvb's whom have said, that in retrospect, they would have welcomed the chance to 'rescue' some of these misguided souls from their predicaments and start a new life together. Oh well, I imagine some people believe there are things worse than death.

SquirtLuva69
07-16-16, 15:07
Wow 2 bills for one hour? So you got to be her bf to give her the D? I will go see the fox then tonight.Good luck brotha. Don't punch the wall after major atm being emptied.

WarriorForLife
07-16-16, 18:05
That is the only way to keep her on your table. As soon as she is running out of drinks, she will hop on to another table to get more. One thing about this lady, she is very fun to be with.


Wow 2 bills for one hour? So you got to be her bf to give her the D? I will go see the fox then tonight..

John Ross
07-16-16, 21:11
You are so right Senpai. Alcoholism, Gambling, Debt to Loan Sharks. These seem to be the common threads that link so many of the tragic kbg suicides we've seen over the past few years, and some current kbgs that are on the same path. It's especially troubling when you hear from lonely lvb's whom have said, that in retrospect, they would have welcomed the chance to 'rescue' some of these misguided souls from their predicaments and start a new life together. Oh well, I imagine some people believe there are things worse than death.At my age, you are happy to have your health. Many of these BGs drink so much alcohol, their health is failing, bad livers, bad stomach. This is a rather pernicious industry not only for the girls. The waiters also get into lots of trouble with gambling or borrowing money. Many of the mamas lend money to the workers and know there is a 50/50 chance they'll get paid back. Regular Joes emptying their bank accounts chasing after a BG. Some of these women are worthy of being rescued, but many more brothers of ours need an intervention.

FawkLuvah
07-16-16, 22:45
That is the only way to keep her on your table. As soon as she is running out of drinks, she will hop on to another table to get more. One thing about this lady, she is very fun to be with.

.She was busy last night working over multiple LVBs. I did not have an oppurtunity to sit in the booth because it was very crowded and busy. She must have a lot of LVBs to choose from on getting that D every night. I will try again tonight.

HurdMan2003
07-17-16, 03:05
She was busy last night working over multiple LVBs. I did not have an oppurtunity to sit in the booth because it was very crowded and busy. She must have a lot of LVBs to choose from on getting that D every night. I will try again tonight.Is it worth it to wait for these ladies? Jumping tables.

Blacks
07-17-16, 04:37
Kimmie has joined the other BS girls at Waterfall.Which one was Kimmie was she at BS? If she the one I'm thinking of she is younger and from the mainland several years ago started at BS, like 6-7 years ago?

Abunai100
07-17-16, 08:57
Is it safe to invest on Ruby at Back to Vegas? She seem nice and claim she does not have a BF, anyone has any 411 on her? PM okay.I wouldn't waste $$ with her as I did in the past come find out she does have a bf. She will say she don't but she will milk you for all her $$!

MitsFunai
07-17-16, 11:02
It's especially troubling when you hear from lonely lvb's whom have said, that in retrospect, they would have welcomed the chance to 'rescue' some of these misguided souls from their predicaments and start a new life together. Oh well, I imagine some people believe there are things worse than death.One thing worse than death is "rescuing" a KBG; the only thing misguided about their predicaments is them. That's one of the ploys of KBGs to hook the LVBs; one of the strongest one is, as referenced, making the LVB think that "you genius, you handsome, you the best. " Come on, now. Good thing get bachi.

Viet Whisperer
07-17-16, 11:51
Is it worth it to wait for these ladies? Jumping tables.If you aren't already in her pants it's not worth waiting for. If you're already in her pants and one of her customers stops in then welcome the table hopping as you're saving money while that guy buys her drinks. Also telling the girl it's ok go see your customer and make some money usually makes the girl like you more knowing you understand their job / situation. On the other hand you have to deal with not getting jealous while your girl is drinking with someone else. It takes confidence to handle it and can be hard. If some big spender customer comes in I will usually tell her I will hang out somewhere else and comeback later. It's a good excuse to go fishing elsewhere too LOL. If their hopping while you are trying to get to know them it's usually going to be very difficult to get to know them unless you're very charming like that pig Arnold from Green Acres. Just my experience that patience usually pays off.

HurdMan2003
07-17-16, 13:08
If you aren't already in her pants it's not worth waiting for. If you're already in her pants and one of her customers stops in then welcome the table hopping as you're saving money while that guy buys her drinks. Also telling the girl it's ok go see your customer and make some money usually makes the girl like you more knowing you understand their job / situation. On the other hand you have to deal with not getting jealous while your girl is drinking with someone else. It takes confidence to handle it and can be hard. If some big spender customer comes in I will usually tell her I will hang out somewhere else and comeback later. It's a good excuse to go fishing elsewhere too LOL. If their hopping while you are trying to get to know them it's usually going to be very difficult to get to know them unless you're very charming like that pig Arnold from Green Acres. Just my experience that patience usually pays off.Thanks for the information, I see this girl in the Kalihi area, I like her alot, I know it's the nature of the business, it's save me money too, but it's hard too, again thanks for the information.

WarriorForLife
07-17-16, 17:03
If she has a BF, then she is hidden it real good, I thought she is all heart, but from outside it really can't tell KBGs these days. She is trying to milk my money too like she did to you. Thanks brother, I need to be smarter next time. BTW. How did you found out she has a BF? She fooled me real good.


I wouldn't waste $$ with her as I did in the past come find out she does have a bf. She will say she don't but she will milk you for all her $$!.

WarriorForLife
07-17-16, 19:34
With Fox, Jay, Momi and other girls at Splash, they have the top talents in town by far. Fox is so in high demand these days, I need to wait for her most of the time.

Summit has a young good looking girl, her name is Jay, but I would put some money on it, she would not last long there. Most girls there dig out in no time.

Starlite (old international) Wendy and some Chinese girls are there. Don't waste your time on them, they are there to talk only. The place is slow, with the parking problem there, I predict that place would not last for long.

EG same old, same old, did not see anyone interested.

FawkLuvah
07-17-16, 20:34
Is it worth it to wait for these ladies? Jumping tables.Finally got a chance to sit with the fox Kay. She tried to pull the baby Bud Light bs, but told her get the regular sized one. Bought here couple of drinks. She stayed for almost an hour until her big whip LVB came in. Started getting crowded and noticed she has a lot of old LVBs. They got to have some dollars from their retirement so that's why she hops. I wonder if they using the V to give it to her. I should ask her how much it would take to get play from her in the room.

WarriorForLife
07-18-16, 02:17
Sat with Fox for an hour only for 2 beers, you are the man, to go room with Fox cost you $$ I have not tried it but saw some other men did. Fox has bus load of customers, some really old, but like you said. V does the magic trick.


Finally got a chance to sit with the fox Kay. She tried to pull the baby Bud Light bs, but told her get the regular sized one. Bought here couple of drinks. She stayed for almost an hour until her big whip LVB came in. Started getting crowded and noticed she has a lot of old LVBs. They got to have some dollars from their retirement so that's why she hops. I wonder if they using the V to give it to her. I should ask her how much it would take to get play from her in the room.

TrueTemper
07-18-16, 04:31
Finally got a chance to sit with the fox Kay. She tried to pull the baby Bud Light bs, but told her get the regular sized one. Bought here couple of drinks. She stayed for almost an hour until her big whip LVB came in. Started getting crowded and noticed she has a lot of old LVBs. They got to have some dollars from their retirement so that's why she hops. I wonder if they using the V to give it to her. I should ask her how much it would take to get play from her in the room.She might still table hop even if you are in the room. I just speculating.

Naughty Monkey
07-18-16, 05:00
Hey guys haven't been on here for awhile coming to Oahu and wanted to know where's good? And I don't mean food hahaha last time was there went to splash, evergreen and that viet bar next to exclusive hows camlot?

Hinode
07-18-16, 11:06
I see not much has changed over the last decade regarding this thread.

Kudos to all the braddahs who live the life of the K bar. Eye candy walking around, sports, the smell of cigarettes, gambling, Kim chee, ahh the memories. After reading 3-4 pages (from the beginning of this thread) I can only shake my head. Is it the allure of pretty Korean women? Probably not. I think, it's the attention and companionship that they offer, to stroke our egos and tell us how handsome we are, intelligent, nice dresser, cool car, etc.

I pay homage to those before me, who helped enlighten me through this web site; keep on doing what you doing. Stay safe, make good choices. Never let one of them nasty Kim chee hos wreck you. Chin low, guard up.

H.

RockMan22
07-18-16, 18:33
Hey guys. Do any of you know anything about the bartender Jessica? Taller Korean. Who isn't LOL. Just wondering? I know she works the floor too just curious if theres any play from her?

Kaimuki55
07-19-16, 01:43
Which one was Kimmie was she at BS? If she the one I'm thinking of she is younger and from the mainland several years ago started at BS, like 6-7 years ago?Not her, kimmie is older with curled hairdo, slim build, used to work daytime.

Allbust
07-19-16, 21:10
Sat with Fox for an hour only for 2 beers, you are the man, to go room with Fox cost you $$ I have not tried it but saw some other men did. Fox has bus load of customers, some really old, but like you said. V does the magic trick.Only $$ for the fox to go in the room with you? Yeah she might just table hop anyway. Would be even more wonderful if she room hops as well. The hardcore LVBs should try that. She must be in great shape to walk around that much.

Happy hunting bros!

WarriorForLife
07-26-16, 05:35
Nothing much to report, business are slow as hell except for Splash. Fox is doing the same luring in the sharks. Jay and others doing pretty good too. Summit is trying to do the best to survive. No words of when is the GR to be put in operation. Old International slow, saw some Ashley fans there. No new eyes candy I have noticed.

Allbust
07-27-16, 19:03
Nothing much to report, business are slow as hell except for Splash. Fox is doing the same luring in the sharks. Jay and others doing pretty good too. Summit is trying to do the best to survive. No words of when is the GR to be put in operation. Old International slow, saw some Ashley fans there. No new eyes candy I have noticed.She must be raking in the dough like crazy. Wonder where all of it goes? Must be some lucky LVB.

BotoMoco
07-27-16, 23:45
The previous time I went there I wasn't impressed at all. I thought wow hardly and girls and more on the older side MILFs. My second visit really was impressive. I thought man this is like a totally different bar. Chicks and chicks and more chicks. Haven't scored yet but will be trying hard. I will update when and if I score a touchdown.

WarriorForLife
07-28-16, 02:18
Most of it goes back to Korea I think. Fox no doubt is one of the most popular girls. She probably making money like me and your salary combined.

Tuesday night was super slow night, most bars in town are dead. Girls don't show up at work or they leaving work early. Drinkers are also stayed home.


She must be raking in the dough like crazy. Wonder where all of it goes? Must be some lucky LVB.

Schalupa
07-28-16, 14:09
I noticed Canal Bar and the one on the corner of Kaumualii and Kohou street had their open signs on at 10:30 am. Are they really open or just a bartender there and waiting for deliveries? No girls?

Captin Crunch
07-28-16, 14:15
I noticed Canal Bar and the one on the corner of Kaumualii and Kohou street had their open signs on at 10:30 am. Are they really open or just a bartender there and waiting for deliveries? No girls?Green Tea opens at 6 and I seen Waterfall opens at 10:30.

Allbust
07-28-16, 16:01
Most of it goes back to Korea I think. Fox no doubt is one of the most popular girls. She probably making money like me and your salary combined.

Tuesday night was super slow night, most bars in town are dead. Girls don't show up at work or they leaving work early. Drinkers are also stayed home.You might be right. Oh well. Good for her. Still wouldn't mind sampling that body if I am going to support her financially.

TrueTemper
07-28-16, 21:58
You might be right. Oh well. Good for her. Still wouldn't mind sampling that body if I am going to support her financially.Be patient, and get to know her real good. If you going buy her Neko's you no need be one sugar daddy. Sooner or later the stars going align. I personally do not know her, but pretty sure.

Guys giving up already because she so busy. And for her getting new LVB how can she meet them if she always busy. I just one Pabo with my one cent, I cannot afford two cents. Have fun.

Guys!

Allbust
07-29-16, 03:23
Be patient, and get to know her real good. If you going buy her Neko's you no need be one sugar daddy. Sooner or later the stars going align. I personally do not know her, but pretty sure.

Guys giving up already because she so busy. And for her getting new LVB how can she meet them if she always busy. I just one Pabo with my one cent, I cannot afford two cents. Have fun.

Guys!You might be right man. Maybe I should swoop in after her LVBs buy her choke shots and she stay all primed up for the kill. Haha. Going try this Saturday after the UFC.

Peace out.

WarriorForLife
07-29-16, 05:07
With that perfect 10 body she has. She got to be picky who she goes to bed with. I have noticed she has more older customers than younger ones. I have never seen her go to parking lot with any guys, so I think takeout is not on her menu.


You might be right. Oh well. Good for her. Still wouldn't mind sampling that body if I am going to support her financially..

HurdMan2003
07-29-16, 13:43
You might be right man. Maybe I should swoop in after her LVBs buy her choke shots and she stay all primed up for the kill. Haha. Going try this Saturday after the UFC.

Peace out.What is a neko?

SquirtLuva69
07-29-16, 13:52
With that perfect 10 body she has. She got to be picky who she goes to bed with. I have noticed she has more older customers than younger ones. I have never seen her go to parking lot with any guys, so I think takeout is not on her menu.

.Spending the time with anyone especially with one so fine and desireable may or may not be able to reap the benefits of a girl falling for you, however it works generally for me. The Foxx is a great person once you get to know her over time outside the bar. Just letting you all know. And no I ain't her sugar daddy LOL.

BotoMoco
07-29-16, 14:25
Hate to say it but its all about the money. These girls are professionals you have to remember that and they see all kinds of dudes who they can sucker into making them buy drinks. Giving soft love whispers holding your hand or putting their hand on your leg to make you feel wanted hahaha. Guys fall for this and sorry to say it but some fall head over heels thinking there might be a chance. But, my personal experience is buy within moderation and if you get play you're a lucky guy. If you don't have a bank roll don't think that you'll have any kind of relationship with these girls. Think about it. Why would they stay with a regular joe off the street who will be a normal provider. They're looking for that golden ring that will take care of them. Buy 4 k LV bags, take them on trips and baby them. So I would say. Have the attitude that its a play place and don't fall in love because if you're not a millionaire you will get nothing more but a long lead on and tease.

Jaritsuh
07-29-16, 21:56
Hate to say it but its all about the money. These girls are professionals you have to remember that and they see all kinds of dudes who they can sucker into making them buy drinks. Giving soft love whispers holding your hand or putting their hand on your leg to make you feel wanted hahaha. Guys fall for this and sorry to say it but some fall head over heels thinking there might be a chance. But, my personal experience is buy within moderation and if you get play you're a lucky guy. If you don't have a bank roll don't think that you'll have any kind of relationship with these girls. Think about it. Why would they stay with a regular joe off the street who will be a normal provider. They're looking for that golden ring that will take care of them. Buy 4 k LV bags, take them on trips and baby them. So I would say. Have the attitude that its a play place and don't fall in love because if you're not a millionaire you will get nothing more but a long lead on and tease.If you one of the above then fine but if not take botomot's advice, but then again we can't take it with us can we. To each his own if you looking for a wife "Go to Chruch" as one of my old bosses used to advise me when we were headed down to Club Secrets. No not the current one. The one on Sheridan long time ago before the super block (Walmart) even back then preferred the bad girls over the good ones. Anyway nothing new as far as advice, as I said to each his own.

WarriorForLife
07-30-16, 07:13
No matter what day, bars are so slow these days, what is the reason? People running out of money, traffic, afraid of catching hepatitis, no new girls?

Someone please tell me why?

Captin Crunch
07-30-16, 12:27
No matter what day, bars are so slow these days, what is the reason? People running out of money, traffic, afraid of catching hepatitis, no new girls?

Someone please tell me why?All of the above. Plus the kbg are all princesses and not players. Money 💰 hungry vultures, who don't know how to take care of the customers.

Viet Whisperer
07-30-16, 12:38
No matter what day, bars are so slow these days, what is the reason? People running out of money, traffic, afraid of catching hepatitis, no new girls?

Someone please tell me why?They are all slow. Sorry to say and no offense but the clientele is getting older and will eventually be gone. The bars are not attracting new customers and the younger generation aren't patronizing them so business will continue to decline. It's all about the girls and service. Most girls are sleeping in booths or playing with their phones most of the night LOL. That shit would never fly several years ago. Girls that are hot but can't hold a conversation are boring and more frequent. If I can't talk to them I get bored and it's hard to make any love connection also. The shenanigans also as I watched the bartenders fill the brown soju bottles from the water dispenser etc. Zero energy in most places also makes it boring. It's why we all hop around to different places looking for a bar to be happening each night haha.

Captin Crunch
07-30-16, 13:26
They are all slow. Sorry to say and no offense but the clientele is getting older and will eventually be gone. The bars are not attracting new customers and the younger generation aren't patronizing them so business will continue to decline. It's all about the girls and service. Most girls are sleeping in booths or playing with their phones most of the night LOL. That shit would never fly several years ago. Girls that are hot but can't hold a conversation are boring and more frequent. If I can't talk to them I get bored and it's hard to make any love connection also. The shenanigans also as I watched the bartenders fill the brown soju bottles from the water dispenser etc. Zero energy in most places also makes it boring. It's why we all hop around to different places looking for a bar to be happening each night haha.Vbs could survive if the girls don't play for that much money. AMPs and massage places might be the future here in 808.

MitsFunai
07-30-16, 13:36
The KBGs are killing themselves due to their poor attitude and service, per the prediction made 5-7 years ago: that KBs will not last more than ten years from then (get three more years for the prediction to prevail). Additionally, some of the buggahs are caught recycling their dry pupus (peanuts, chips, etc.) from customer to other customers; hope they not recycling hot food in the kitchen. As previously mentioned, no more young ones taking the veterans' places because when we first started, everybody was young, about the same age; now different. However, this guy's opinion is that the wholesale and retail prices of all goods are just out-of-control without going to bar and buying nekos (neko=I, or me; hana=one; one for me), making everybody broke ass from the start.

Blade82
07-30-16, 13:49
No matter what day, bars are so slow these days, what is the reason? People running out of money, traffic, afraid of catching hepatitis, no new girls?

Someone please tell me why?A combination of girl's egos and naive lvb who spoiled these girls. Years ago this board was getting filled with complaints about how the younger generation was ruining things with their stupid judgement. It slowly changed the bar scene and well here we are today. Then you also got older mamas who retired and newer mamas who don't know how to run things. Over the years mongerers got fed up and stopped going to bars. So sad, it's like watching the Roman Empire fall.

Asstro
07-30-16, 14:07
No matter what day, bars are so slow these days, what is the reason? People running out of money, traffic, afraid of catching hepatitis, no new girls?

Someone please tell me why?How about this theory. Most of us learned the hard way, but we fed the KB economy. Today newbies learn from this forum, so there are less pabo LVB's. Sorry if I am in violation by blaming this forum, just postulating.

The purpose of the forum has always been for men to exchange info on women for sex. If the whole KB scene is about women getting guys to spend money on them with the promise of sex that doesn't really happen (I have no experience but that seems to be what it is to me from reading) and the information on the forum has reduced the number of guys who are willing to give money to women just to be able to talk to them hoping they will get laid but then not be able fuck them then I'd say it's doing it's job no?

A2

WarriorForLife
07-30-16, 17:12
You have excellent points. Eversince the Hepatitis infection breakout on the island, over 90 people got infected. I have noticed restaurant and bars business are declining. The state still do not know where is the origin of the virus coming from, I sometimes question the hygiene of these KBGs and restaurant workers. Do they wash their hands after each bathroom used? I know they do serve food and drinks, so if they lack of good hygiene practice. Chances of picking up the virus are much greater.


They are all slow. Sorry to say and no offense but the clientele is getting older and will eventually be gone. The bars are not attracting new customers and the younger generation aren't patronizing them so business will continue to decline. It's all about the girls and service. Most girls are sleeping in booths or playing with their phones most of the night LOL. That shit would never fly several years ago. Girls that are hot but can't hold a conversation are boring and more frequent. If I can't talk to them I get bored and it's hard to make any love connection also. The shenanigans also as I watched the bartenders fill the brown soju bottles from the water dispenser etc. Zero energy in most places also makes it boring. It's why we all hop around to different places looking for a bar to be happening each night haha..

Old Island Boy
07-30-16, 18:31
They are all slow. Sorry to say and no offense but the clientele is getting older and will eventually be gone. The bars are not attracting new customers and the younger generation aren't patronizing them so business will continue to decline. It's all about the girls and service. Most girls are sleeping in booths or playing with their phones most of the night LOL. That shit would never fly several years ago. Girls that are hot but can't hold a conversation are boring and more frequent. If I can't talk to them I get bored and it's hard to make any love connection also. The shenanigans also as I watched the bartenders fill the brown soju bottles from the water dispenser etc. Zero energy in most places also makes it boring. It's why we all hop around to different places looking for a bar to be happening each night haha.Your second sentence says it all. The generation that patronized the hostess bars is dying off. As you get older, you have to use your money for other things. That's life.

Would be worth a dissertation for some Sociology grad student.

ChiChiMon
07-30-16, 22:24
Could it be off-season like football or a evolution in the brain pointing him or her to the best avenue for an up-close and personal adventure aka relaxation where one may feel better appreciated?

H Mobius
07-31-16, 00:04
Over the years mongerers got fed up and stopped going to bars. So sad, it's like watching the Roman Empire fall.The girls don't get it. They think it can't be possible for men to get fed-up with their BS and games because they are so beautiful and sexy.

Some look shocked when they learn of their overpowering competition for our money, such as AMPs, AAMPs and MTs who play, straight-up, without any BS. These types of work are beneath today's typical BG, who can't do an honest day's work to save her life.

BotoMoco
07-31-16, 12:38
Your second sentence says it all. The generation that patronized the hostess bars is dying off. As you get older, you have to use your money for other things. That's life.

Would be worth a dissertation for some Sociology grad student.Maybe just maybe the evolution of these bars would be going into providing FS for customers without paying outrageous fees. I never did partake in a back room after all my years going. I did blow some scrips here and there but always got the golden egg on the outside and never there. Then the next day when sober the thought of fuck I just blew a thousand bucks and I could've just gone to the MP and had 5 session with the hotties of my choice. My misconception is that probably that BBBJ at the bar is cleaner than one at the MP but we all know its not true. A MP girl who might be sucking 8 dicks a day compared to a bar girl who does one a night hmmmm. I don't know. I don't know where this post is going either I'm little hung over and got back at 4 am and woke up to piss and here I am writing this LOL. I'm going back to sleep and sorry for babbling.

Night Life2
07-31-16, 15:55
Haven't been out in a while drove by Blue Sea last night. When did they close?

Xxnutzxx
07-31-16, 18:35
What is a neko?Neko (actually pronounced 'nekuh' in korean) translates to 'mine'. Girls will usually say "nekohana"? 'hana' meaning one. "mine one" which loosely translates to "may I get one". Referring to a drink of course.

Shipshape
07-31-16, 19:22
The girls don't get it. They think it can't be possible for men to get fed-up with their BS and games because they are so beautiful and sexy.

Some look shocked when they learn of their overpowering competition for our money, such as AMPs, AAMPs and MTs who play, straight-up, without any BS. These types of work are beneath today's typical BG, who can't do an honest day's work to save her life.Add to all that the 90 day wonders. Girls brought in for 3 months to work the bar scene. There is no incentive for them to establish clientele. For them, it's all about making as much money as quickly as possible and then returning to the "homeland". The "regular" girls can't just sit by watching this, so they start to "catch" the same syndrome (take the money and run. Aka table hop). It is indeed a vicious cycle that can only end with very few K-Bars bars in the Kapiolani area (which has happened already). Kalihi will survive a bit longer. To the young guys who may disagree with the assessments offered, consider that 20 years ago there were almost 100 K-bars in the area. How many are there now?

Ss.

MitsFunai
07-31-16, 20:30
To the young guys who may disagree with the assessments offered, consider that 20 years ago there were almost 100 K-bars in the area. How many are there now?
Ss.In the KB / KBG heydays of the '60-early '80's (at the latest) there were 150-160 such bars on Oahu; 30 to sometimes even 50 KBGs per. Same game, different players nowadays.

SquirtLuva69
07-31-16, 22:19
In the KB / KBG heydays of the '60-early '80's (at the latest) there were 150-160 such bars on Oahu; 30 to sometimes even 50 KBGs per. Same game, different players nowadays.Lots of big players, Japanese, real estate developers, sales people all used to spend big bucks. Unnamed "Whales" spending $10 k and up on a single night. Big change. BIG.

WarriorForLife
08-01-16, 03:23
I am fed up of the BS these BGs pull these days, thinking of quit going to bar for a while.

I spend $180 on a BG the other night, she said after work " you take me home" I waited for her and it turned out someone told me she caught a cab home. What a wasted of my time.

Now I know why bars are so slow. Pepole are fed up, girls are spoiled, too expansive of spending and most time you don't get anything except BS from these princesses.

Blade82
08-01-16, 11:01
Another factor I noticed is lot of the bars don't have such great food. Not saying no place has anymore, but I remember when most bars were not only competing on who had the best girls, but also the best food. Before quite a few bar's porkchops could rival side street inn's. Few months ago when I ordered it at green tea, was super dry, not much flavor, and no crisp. Today you lucky if you receive a couple ban-chan with your entree.

BotoMoco
08-01-16, 13:34
Even with the major slow down in bars dummies like me sometimes contribute to their survival. Multiple bottles of champagne getting blind as fuck and having fun. It always hurts the next day though. I agree the food at some establishments aren't the greatest but for pupus they are good enough. Theres always 3-4 hotties in each bar and this is the bait that keeps us horny mongers coming back for more. The big tease. By the way. I'm getting so close on one but so far at the same time. LOL. Wish me lucky buy me drinky.

AllNuts
08-01-16, 15:11
I've had to many $1 K+ nights at the bars before I just made myself stay away. Even if you do get some tail and pseudo dating is it really worth it?


I am fed up of the BS these BGs pull these days, thinking of quit going to bar for a while.

I spend $180 on a BG the other night, she said after work " you take me home" I waited for her and it turned out someone told me she caught a cab home. What a wasted of my time.

Now I know why bars are so slow. Pepole are fed up, girls are spoiled, too expansive of spending and most time you don't get anything except BS from these princesses.

MitsFunai
08-02-16, 00:04
Have witnessed the following during my decades in the KB:

1. Green grocer businessman spending $600-700 nightly (late '70's); he could afford it.

2. Addict for KBG spends $100 nightly, 360 days / year ('80's).

3. Contractor LVB buys condo for KBG; total of $4 million until he loses family and business; KBG loses condo and cash in Atlantic City.

4. City manager for Ewa Villages spends $2000 nightly, buys bar for KBG ($150,000), BMW sedan, $700,000 Las Vegas on player card; he makes $50,000 salary; currently spending life in prison (embezzled $10-11 million).

5. Son of doctors spends all of parents' assets on KBG; she dumps him for another dummy after he runs out of funds (approx. $2-3 million).

6. Painting contractor LVB amasses $40,000 debt on two credit cards; alcoholic, no can work.

7. And the beat goes on.

Glogauer
08-02-16, 00:15
Should start a group called KB Addicts Anonymous. It is an addiction. I've been at on and off for over 20 years. I think my lifetime losses are about $40 K, some self respect, and a few regrets. Haven't lost the job or the family yet though. God is forgiving, for now.

Nevertheless. To stick to the thread topic, I find that Kalihi is a much better bargain than in town. I think the girls are more professional there. Still good conversation and chase to be had. Suji Mama has a couple of winners at Club T-Time (FKA Club By Me, London Hub, etc). Nina and Leigh are fun.


Have witnessed the following during my decades in the KB:

1. Green grocer businessman spending $600-700 nightly (late '70's); he could afford it.

2. Addict for KBG spends $100 nightly, 360 days / year ('80's).

3. Contractor LVB buys condo for KBG; total of $4 million until he loses family and business; KBG loses condo and cash in Atlantic City.

4. City manager for Ewa Villages spends $2000 nightly, buys bar for KBG ($150,000), BMW sedan, $700,000 Las Vegas on player card; he makes $50,000 salary; currently spending life in prison (embezzled $10-11 million).

5. Son of doctors spends all of parents' assets on KBG; she dumps him for another dummy after he runs out of funds (approx. $2-3 million).

6. Painting contractor LVB amasses $40,000 debt on two credit cards; alcoholic, no can work.

7. And the beat goes on.

Allbust
08-02-16, 01:17
I am fed up of the BS these BGs pull these days, thinking of quit going to bar for a while.

I spend $180 on a BG the other night, she said after work " you take me home" I waited for her and it turned out someone told me she caught a cab home. What a wasted of my time.

Now I know why bars are so slow. Pepole are fed up, girls are spoiled, too expansive of spending and most time you don't get anything except BS from these princesses.Don't tell it was the fox that did this to you? I wasnt able to make to town this past Saturday to see the action.

ChiChiMon
08-02-16, 08:14
The KBG take care.

Not all, but most.

Blade82
08-02-16, 08:41
Have witnessed the following during my decades in the KB:

1. Green grocer businessman spending $600-700 nightly (late '70's); he could afford it.

2. Addict for KBG spends $100 nightly, 360 days / year ('80's).

3. Contractor LVB buys condo for KBG; total of $4 million until he loses family and business; KBG loses condo and cash in Atlantic City.

4. City manager for Ewa Villages spends $2000 nightly, buys bar for KBG ($150,000), BMW sedan, $700,000 Las Vegas on player card; he makes $50,000 salary; currently spending life in prison (embezzled $10-11 million).

5. Son of doctors spends all of parents' assets on KBG; she dumps him for another dummy after he runs out of funds (approx. $2-3 million).

6. Painting contractor LVB amasses $40,000 debt on two credit cards; alcoholic, no can work.

7. And the beat goes on.Let me contribute:

Owner of a fish distribution business; leaves family, spends their fortune, murders girl and himself.

WarriorForLife
08-02-16, 17:48
It was from one of the girls at Back to Vegas. I was told she caught a cab home, but another girl told me she got a ride home from her BF. Guys don't be fool.

Fox is super sexy. Waiting for the right day to go room with her. Wonder if she does her hopping while in room?


Don't tell it was the fox that did this to you? I wasnt able to make to town this past Saturday to see the action.

H Mobius
08-02-16, 22:38
I am fed up of the BS these BGs pull these days, thinking of quit going to bar for a while.

I spend $180 on a BG the other night, she said after work " you take me home" I waited for her and it turned out someone told me she caught a cab home. What a wasted of my time.

Now I know why bars are so slow. Pepole are fed up, girls are spoiled, too expansive of spending and most time you don't get anything except BS from these princesses.Especially if the bar was busy, a lot of guys were told that, not only you.

It's okay man. Don't worry about not being her free taxi; it's been happening for literally decades, since before this girl was even born. It would have been more a waste of your time (and fuel) had you driven her home. If you were drinking, the more you drive around unnecessarily, the more chance you have to get pulled over. You can best believe she wouldn't give 2 shits about that.

ChiChiMon
08-02-16, 23:56
Please excuse me, I'm very new to the scene.

I've read a few threads and perceive a negative tone towards the services received.

When I indulge and patron these establishments, the experience is fairly positive. With that being said.

I have also never received any sexual gratification although I've heard rumors.

I would like to spark a conversation on the topic of, and more importantly its origins.

I understand that these establishments, 'they employ primarily female staff and cater to males seeking drinks and attentive conversation. " So, if someone is less than satisfied because much kala was spend without getting more than drinks and conversation, who is to blame?

Again, I'm new and if this offends anyone, please delete.

Any advice from senior members on my ignorance is appreciated as well.

Allbust
08-03-16, 02:23
Fox is super sexy. Waiting for the right day to go room with her. Wonder if she does her hopping while in room?Most likely. I wouldn't put it past her. Going be sip sip and run away to the floor tables.

Blade82
08-03-16, 05:10
Please excuse me, I'm very new to the scene.

I've read a few threads and perceive a negative tone towards the services received.

When I indulge and patron these establishments, the experience is fairly positive. With that being said.

I have also never received any sexual gratification although I've heard rumors.

I would like to spark a conversation on the topic of, and more importantly its origins.

I understand that these establishments, 'they employ primarily female staff and cater to males seeking drinks and attentive conversation. " So, if someone is less than satisfied because much kala was spend without getting more than drinks and conversation, who is to blame?

Again, I'm new and if this offends anyone, please delete.

Any advice from senior members on my ignorance is appreciated as well.Yes there are people who are purely pissed because they get no play after much money spent. However, other things such as girl gets a shot, takes the shot, all within 5 minutes or less then asks for another or just goes on to her next prey. Then you got those who pretend you mean more to them than just a customer. Many will even go out in public with customers if they spoil them at the mall and fine dining. It's one thing if the girl makes it straight it's just a business relationship, it's another when manipulating ones feelings and taking business outside the bar. Perhaps you are like me and just accept when conversing with these girls, it's just pure fun for the night. I believe the girls can see that in certain customers, and therefore won't push them like how they do with other fools. However, that still doesn't give them the right to take advantage with the weak and play with their emotions. I was like you when I first started. I thought it was more men being ignorant than the girls tactics. But as you experience more girls and get attached to a few, you will see the ugly side of them. I think it's worse now than it's ever been since you have to take care of the girl before you get any kind of customer service from them.

TheHammah
08-03-16, 06:32
I am fed up of the BS these BGs pull these days, thinking of quit going to bar for a while.

I spend $180 on a BG the other night, she said after work " you take me home" I waited for her and it turned out someone told me she caught a cab home. What a wasted of my time.

Now I know why bars are so slow. Pepole are fed up, girls are spoiled, too expansive of spending and most time you don't get anything except BS from these princesses.That's the name of the game. No one to blame but yourself LOL.

WarriorForLife
08-03-16, 07:36
If you have a KBG as your GF, chances are "you might not the only one" she has.

Most girls will tell you anything just to make money, they will dry your wallet up and dump you.

Some brother here said recycled food such as peanuts and chips, uneaten leftover snack serving to next guy.

Ampty out Soju and beer and replace it with tea so they can drink all night without getting drunk.

Table hopping is comon practice these days, ask for drink every 5 minutes, if you don't buy then they will hop on to the next Joe.

The list goes on. One last thing, why do you think bars business are so poor right now? People begin to see the light.


Please excuse me, I'm very new to the scene.

I've read a few threads and perceive a negative tone towards the services received.

When I indulge and patron these establishments, the experience is fairly positive. With that being said.

I have also never received any sexual gratification although I've heard rumors.

I would like to spark a conversation on the topic of, and more importantly its origins.

I understand that these establishments, 'they employ primarily female staff and cater to males seeking drinks and attentive conversation. " So, if someone is less than satisfied because much kala was spend without getting more than drinks and conversation, who is to blame?

Again, I'm new and if this offends anyone, please delete.

Any advice from senior members on my ignorance is appreciated as well.

ChiChiMon
08-03-16, 10:19
Yes there are people who are purely pissed because they get no play after much money spent. However, other things such as girl gets a shot, takes the shot, all within 5 minutes or less then asks for another or just goes on to her next prey. Then you got those who pretend you mean more to them than just a customer. Many will even go out in public with customers if they spoil them at the mall and fine dining. It's one thing if the girl makes it straight it's just a business relationship, it's another when manipulating ones feelings and taking business outside the bar. Perhaps you are like me and just accept when conversing with these girls, it's just pure fun for the night. I believe the girls can see that in certain customers, and therefore won't push them like how they do with other fools. However, that still doesn't give them the right to take advantage with the weak and play with their emotions. I was like you when I first started. I thought it was more men being ignorant than the girls tactics. But as you experience more girls and get attached to a few, you will see the ugly side of them. I think it's worse now than it's ever been since you have to take care of the girl before you get any kind of customer service from them.Hmmm, I surly can empathize with being 'hustled'. In which the best defense would be to spend on a personality that's pleasing than irritating.

Is it safe to say that if a generic standard was created by us, the clients, and when hostess' operate outside that with respect to service, by default, we stop entertaining them and eventually that will filter out the perceived negative behavior / hostess? Unless, one is attracted to the pain / game.

This forum is a great tool for any Mon.-ger to have. It directly facilitates an open communication channel which surly is an advantage. Would it be in the best interest to create or rename a thread to shady baR-maids and bar tricks?

Shipshape
08-03-16, 17:13
Hmmm, I surly can empathize with being 'hustled'. In which the best defense would be to spend on a personality that's pleasing than irritating.

Is it safe to say that if a generic standard was created by us, the clients, and when hostess' operate outside that with respect to service, by default, we stop entertaining them and eventually that will filter out the perceived negative behavior / hostess? Unless, one is attracted to the pain / game.

This forum is a great tool for any Mon.-ger to have. It directly facilitates an open communication channel which surly is an advantage. Would it be in the best interest to create or rename a thread to shady baR-maids and bar tricks?Short answer. Nope. Not going to happen. There was / is a thread (tactics & discussions) that went into the subject matter of tricks, tactics, etc. Some of us tried to pass on knowledge and were "dissed" to a frustration point that it became pointless. There is no group / brotherhood. You are on your own. Read the forum. Gleen what you can and never pay with plastic. That's it. Good luck.

Ss.

ChiChiMon
08-03-16, 17:59
Short answer. Nope. Not going to happen. There was / is a thread (tactics & discussions) that went into the subject matter of tricks, tactics, etc. Some of us tried to pass on knowledge and were "dissed" to a frustration point that it became pointless. There is no group / brotherhood. You are on your own. Read the forum. Gleen what you can and never pay with plastic. That's it. Good luck.

Ss.LOL, thank you for the wisdom. I got burned couple times and didn't realize it till later so now I'm a cash only kind of guy.

$ for me, $$ for you. So far it's the best insurance but only works if you apply rule 1.

NEVER play w / PLASTIC.

Equally applies to plastic personalities.

Blade82
08-03-16, 20:23
LOL, thank you for the wisdom. I got burned couple times and didn't realize it till later so now I'm a cash only kind of guy.

$ for me, $$ for you. So far it's the best insurance but only works if you apply rule 1.

NEVER play w / PLASTIC.

Equally applies to plastic personalities.I myself have played with plastic a few times, but was very cautious. It wasn't for as much as some guys would charge but still I was very cautious. They tried to overcharge me but I confronted them right away. I know my rights and would have gone the extra mile had they not played ball with me. I know it can be hard for people to be confrontational in these situations, especially with a high bill and a good time. Perhaps the stereotype of Hawaii people being too nice and laid back isn't so off after all. But that is what you have to do after having a few drinks and putting your plastic on the line. I know some will say all the trouble on fighting isn't worth the time and money. But to me it's not always about the money, it's about principal. It's like recently my house got robbed, the robbers didn't have much time so not much was taken. It was a very odd and fast robbery so most of the things missing I won't miss it. But I was still super pissed because of the violated feeling on someone breaking into my own home. Difference is I had no control over that situation. If a bar or any business for that matter robs me, I got nobody else to blame but myself if I let that go because there are things I can do to stop it.

Lop Chong Man
08-03-16, 22:53
Please learn from my mistake. Treat it like you are going into a casino. Only bring what you want to spend.

I know not to pay with plastic but I've been there having a good time and the wallet just opens up and I spend more than I expected. I end up broke and feeling ill for spend $$$ talking to some bar girl! No happy ending or anything. I know it is the cost for talking to some hot girls (sometimes) but I've gone to Mai Tai and Waikis to buy girls drinks and talk to them. It would be a more interesting conversation and I did hook up once with this cute Chinese Canadian girl.

Shipshape
08-04-16, 06:44
LOL, thank you for the wisdom. I got burned couple times and didn't realize it till later so now I'm a cash only kind of guy.

$ for me, $$ for you. So far it's the best insurance but only works if you apply rule 1.

NEVER play w / PLASTIC.

Equally applies to plastic personalities.Of course rule #2 should be considered as well. No tab, pay as you go. Watch the girls at the end of the night figuring out a bar tab. They eye it, judge how drunk the client is and then add a few more (or a lot more) girls drinkees on. Of course if you prefer to end an otherwise fun evening arguing over a tab well then nevermind rules #1 and #2.

Ss.

ChiChiMon
08-04-16, 19:05
Conclusion.

For the ultimate experience on your night out with minimum disappointments.

Follow rules 1,2,3 carefully.

1. Never play with Plastic.

2. Head to Rejuve, Happiness, Plus Spa for overall great experience without the Drama.

3. Enjoy drinks and attentive conversations. If a feeling of disrespect is present, apply 3 strike rule.

4. Asia Adult Tour, 10 days, pack icy hot for rub on your nutz after triathlon sessions.

Jaritsuh
08-04-16, 23:14
Of course rule #2 should be considered as well. No tab, pay as you go. Watch the girls at the end of the night figuring out a bar tab. They eye it, judge how drunk the client is and then add a few more (or a lot more) girls drinkees on. Of course if you prefer to end an otherwise fun evening arguing over a tab well then nevermind rules #1 and #2.

Ss.That or you can be like these Korean Guys and no pay the tab but they come every week and spend? Money on the girls and run the tab. The bars put up with them because they bring in other Korean businessmen who do spend actual Cash, then the girls make some money.

The same with the day crowd, know of a group that comes into a bar every week and after all is said and done the house looses money on this group each and every week the bartenders make money but the house looses $$ they put up with it because it fills the bar for a time but it is a looser proposition all around for the house. The ONLY! Ones making money are the bartenders when they should be paying their customers liquor tab. Since they get the tips. But they don't. I would cut it and ask them go to another bar better empty than loosing money other than an empty bar.

Tabs when you know the bar staff but otherwise it is cash and carry. Always.

ChiChiMon
08-05-16, 01:02
Conclusion.

For the ultimate experience on your night out with minimum disappointments.

Follow rules 1,2,3 carefully.

1. Never play with Plastic.

2. Head to Rejuve, Happiness, Plus Spa for overall great experience without the Drama.

3. Enjoy drinks and attentive conversations. If a feeling of disrespect is present, apply 3 strike rule.

4. Asia Adult Tour, 10 days, pack icy hot for rub on your nutz after triathlon sessions.1. Same.

2. AMP.

3. KBG.

4. Spend saving on 10 day tour of an Asian country of your choice. *pack prepared*.

Blade82
08-05-16, 07:47
I notice too now I don't see as much celebrities or important figures come to the bars anymore. Of course I don't go out as much as I use to but I remember I would recognizable faces pretty frequently. Of course they were pretty much just local celebrities and not international celebrities like some of the jbars had. I guess you know business is bad when famous faces aren't even willing to spend their money there.

John Ross
08-05-16, 08:43
Conclusion.

For the ultimate experience on your night out with minimum disappointments.

Follow rules 1,2,3 carefully.

1. Never play with Plastic.

2. Head to Rejuve, Happiness, Plus Spa for overall great experience without the Drama.

3. Enjoy drinks and attentive conversations. If a feeling of disrespect is present, apply 3 strike rule.

4. Asia Adult Tour, 10 days, pack icy hot for rub on your nutz after triathlon sessions.Also, if you are a first timer at a KB or AMP, it is best to go with a seasoned vet.

WeROhia
08-05-16, 10:31
Also, if you are a first timer at a KB or AMP, it is best to go with a seasoned vet.Do I have to PM seasoned vets to go with me and show me the ropes? I can pay for the Uber!

Blade82
08-05-16, 11:27
Also, if you are a first timer at a KB or AMP, it is best to go with a seasoned vet.Yes, going alone to a kbar if you are not experienced or strong willed can be dangerous. Poor tourists would get caught in traps all the time. A AMP on the other hand is not really necessary as long as you got an idea how things work. Can't really do anything to help out beyond the front door. Plus as messed up as it sounds, AMPs for the most part is much more simpler and honest than a kbar.

Hinode
08-05-16, 14:39
Of course rule #2 should be considered as well. No tab, pay as you go. Watch the girls at the end of the night figuring out a bar tab. They eye it, judge how drunk the client is and then add a few more (or a lot more) girls drinkees on. Of course if you prefer to end an otherwise fun evening arguing over a tab well then nevermind rules #1 and #2.

Ss.Had that happen to me before. Never again did I go bar with credit card.

Make good choices, stay safe my braddahs.

H.

Kaina2076
08-05-16, 18:09
Every now and then one goes to the bar with limited cash in pocket with the intention of having a couple of drinks, checking it out and moving on; then low and behold you run into a couple of pals, meet a new and interesting lady and you decide to keep the party going. You need to resort to plastic. Some options are: 1. Put a napkin on your glass and walk to the nearest bank ATM if one is handy. 2. Use the bar's ATM. This will cost about $3 which is minimal. (I am always leery that some bar ATM might have some sort of card scamming attachment, but never had a problem yet.) 3. Ask the bar for "cash back" on your card. 95% of the bars do this upon request. If you are not known they will want to charge you $6 per $100. However if you are known there will be no charge or you can ask that the bartender or Mama waive the fee in return for a neko which you were probably going to buy them anyway. All of the preceding in effect puts you back on a cash basis. 4. Option #4 pretty much requires you to be sitting at the bar. (I've done it in a room as well but that can be tricky.) You request that the "tab" be placed in front of you and you observe at close hand each and every entry. Insist also that all the names of the drink recipients be written in English so you know who is getting what. (they usually only write the names in Hangul). This latter method tworks fine but the downside is that you have to pay attention. 5. The 5th option; insist that one bar tender or barback who you can trust be directly responsible to you for handling the tab. (then cross your fingers and do a good check at the end od the night)

A last observation relative to tabs at KB's, I've never seen one yet where they did not automatically list the DJ's or barback's drink at $20 versus their normal $10. I buy the barback a $20 neko now and then but it's the principle of automatically doubling the normal price because they think they can get away with it. (the barbacki is not doing it but rather it's the bartender doing it on his behalf).

Be careful and enjoy.

Kaina.

MitsFunai
08-06-16, 04:46
Do I have to PM seasoned vets to go with me and show me the ropes? I can pay for the Uber!It's best to go solo, sit on the counter with a vantage point, and observe the KB culture (keeping in mind whatever you've read here). It should be hilarious to have these commentaries "come alive" and have a few laughs like most of us; there will always be live comments about whatever's discussed here and more. Would suggest to go to a busy KB in order to blend into the landscape and try not to look too obvious that you're there to make observations; stay as long as it takes to bring something back to the forum table, if possible. Of course, JMO, and I know you can take care of yourself.

Old Island Boy
08-06-16, 06:00
Every now and then one goes to the bar with limited cash in pocket with the intention of having a couple of drinks, checking it out and moving on; then low and behold you run into a couple of pals, meet a new and interesting lady and you decide to keep the party going. You need to resort to plastic. Some options are: 1. Put a napkin on your glass and walk to the nearest bank ATM if one is handy. 2. Use the bar's ATM. This will cost about $3 which is minimal. (I am always leery that some bar ATM might have some sort of card scamming attachment, but never had a problem yet.) 3. Ask the bar for "cash back" on your card. 95% of the bars do this upon request. If you are not known they will want to charge you $6 per $100. However if you are known there will be no charge or you can ask that the bartender or Mama waive the fee in return for a neko which you were probably going to buy them anyway. All of the preceding in effect puts you back on a cash basis. 4. Option #4 pretty much requires you to be sitting at the bar. (I've done it in a room as well but that can be tricky.) You request that the "tab" be placed in front of you and you observe at close hand each and every entry. Insist also that all the names of the drink recipients be written in English so you know who is getting what. (they usually only write the names in Hangul). This latter method tworks fine but the downside is that you have to pay attention. 5. The 5th option; insist that one bar tender or barback who you can trust be directly responsible to you for handling the tab. (then cross your fingers and do a good check at the end od the night)

A last observation relative to tabs at KB's, I've never seen one yet where they did not automatically list the DJ's or barback's drink at $20 versus their normal $10. I buy the barback a $20 neko now and then but it's the principle of automatically doubling the normal price because they think they can get away with it. (the barbacki is not doing it but rather it's the bartender doing it on his behalf).

Be careful and enjoy.

Kaina.Some KBs or VBs are going to fleece you if you use plastic, but I remember a question of how many drinks were being charged to a tab at Evergreen one night and without prompting, Sylvia offered to rescind the drink that she took. I was actually quite impressed with her for doing that.

WarriorForLife
08-06-16, 06:01
Second that, solo is the best way, often time girls will not approach the group, cause they know the guys can entertain themselves. Dress up nice and smell good are a must. No girls like to sit with guys with tank top and smell aweful.

Still try to catch the Fox on the right day, so far she is pretty ellusive, hoping table to table. Anyone has any 411 on Jay? Anothe fine gem at Splash.


It's best to go solo, sit on the counter with a vantage point, and observe the KB culture (keeping in mind whatever you've read here). It should be hilarious to have these commentaries "come alive" and have a few laughs like most of us; there will always be live comments about whatever's discussed here and more. Would suggest to go to a busy KB in order to blend into the landscape and try not to look too obvious that you're there to make observations; stay as long as it takes to bring something back to the forum table, if possible. Of course, JMO, and I know you can take care of yourself.

Local1234
08-06-16, 07:16
Some KBs or VBs are going to fleece you if you use plastic, but I remember a question of how many drinks were being charged to a tab at Evergreen one night and without prompting, Sylvia offered to rescind the drink that she took. I was actually quite impressed with her for doing that.She should rescind it when overcharged.

Blade82
08-06-16, 12:06
Do I have to PM seasoned vets to go with me and show me the ropes? I can pay for the Uber!Really depends how you feel about going to a bar alone. These days even sitting up at the bar girls may approach you. If you don't know how to handle yourself when the girl gets aggressive then you may want someone to show you the ropes. Plus having the right etiquette with bartenders can get you a long way. It's not rocket science, but it can be complicated since it's an aggressive scene.

BotoMoco
08-06-16, 12:30
Dang. I scored two touchdowns but I can't disclose who or where because I think they will find out my true identity. This is basically a useless post because of that but just letting you boys know that it can be had. Its a totally different venue tho. More of a drawn out process and more money. Cheaper to go to a MP and get drained. The only positive thing is maybe the bargirl is not sucking 200 dicks a month LOL. I got bb service too. Its pretty much a heavy initial investment and then not too much cost after.

Jaritsuh
08-06-16, 20:54
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WarriorForLife
08-07-16, 02:17
Time are so hard, I have hard times just to score a field goal, score 2 touchdowns are really an incredible task in KB these days. Thanks for the sharing. One question, did you scored your 2 TDs at Canal? A friend of my told me to try there.


Dang. I scored two touchdowns but I can't disclose who or where because I think they will find out my true identity. This is basically a useless post because of that but just letting you boys know that it can be had. Its a totally different venue tho. More of a drawn out process and more money. Cheaper to go to a MP and get drained. The only positive thing is maybe the bargirl is not sucking 200 dicks a month LOL. I got bb service too. Its pretty much a heavy initial investment and then not too much cost after..

Guzzler
08-07-16, 06:59
There's a Gina at 904 that is daytime bartender partner with Lisa. If this is the Gina of whom you speak, "your girl" is 50+. Not 30. Her words.

Kaina.Been gone for some time, went to 904 but she is not there any more. Any clue to where she working?

FawkLuvah
08-07-16, 14:35
Finally had a chance to sample her. Got there late and bought her a few nekos. Didn't plan on it, but she wanted a ride home. She lives near Don Quijote so I parked there. We talked for awhile as asked her if she like company tonight. She said we don't know each other that well yet. Only got fiv and pau BBBJ. I guess I need to keep going back to splash and try again. I am pretty sure those high roller LVBs have gotten in to sample that fox.

Viet Whisperer
08-07-16, 14:36
Wandered in here recently and was surprised that there were pretty nice looking women in here. Curious why this place and a few others rarely get mentioned on here. Never hear anything about Emerald City or Leslie's place either. Haven't checked those places out yet but will soon. Just curious as it seemed like a decent place.

BotoMoco
08-07-16, 19:00
Time are so hard, I have hard times just to score a field goal, score 2 touchdowns are really an incredible task in KB these days. Thanks for the sharing. One question, did you scored your 2 TDs at Canal? A friend of my told me to try there.

.I really don't know how to tell you where one of them was without selling myself out but I can tell you one was where the grass was greener on the other side. I dropped a lot of scripts tho. But now I'm getting some free rides. As I said a heavy initial investment and reap some benefits later. I've been playing this game for the last couple of weeks so I haven't been visiting the AMPs much. Totally different venue. More GFE then the hit and run at the MP.

Baboozer
08-07-16, 20:25
Wandered in here recently and was surprised that there were pretty nice looking women in here. Curious why this place and a few others rarely get mentioned on here. Never hear anything about Emerald City or Leslie's place either. Haven't checked those places out yet but will soon. Just curious as it seemed like a decent place.Emeralds only get 1 cutie named "Lani" can't remember her real name but is quite sexy. Claims she hails from LV where she is a hairstylist or something to that effect. Cool chic.

WarriorForLife
08-07-16, 20:41
Initial investment, it scares a lot of people away. I have dumped a truck load of money on a Splash girl. I got nothing, not only a field goal. And that girl kelp asking for more. I finally gave up.

Not a sure thing able to spike the ball on the end zone. I give you credit at least you tried. Some score TDs, guy like me got sacked for 20 yards loss.


I really don't know how to tell you where one of them was without selling myself out but I can tell you one was where the grass was greener on the other side. I dropped a lot of scripts tho. But now I'm getting some free rides. As I said a heavy initial investment and reap some benefits later. I've been playing this game for the last couple of weeks so I haven't been visiting the AMPs much. Totally different venue. More GFE then the hit and run at the MP.

Jaritsuh
08-07-16, 20:54
Emeralds only get 1 cutie named "Lani" can't remember her real name but is quite sexy. Claims she hails from LV where she is a hairstylist or something to that effect. Cool chic.She does live in Vegas actually just off the strip near Polo Towers, so she said. Nice young lady, slim build and she is very sexy. One of the guys has a lady there so we stop in once in awhile, you have good taste.

WarriorForLife
08-08-16, 03:46
You got BBBJ from Fox for few drinks? I know a guy bought her a $7000 Hermes bag got Jack shit. I am jealous, please tell me your secret of sucess.


Finally had a chance to sample her. Got there late and bought her a few nekos. Didn't plan on it, but she wanted a ride home. She lives near Don Quijote so I parked there. We talked for awhile as asked her if she like company tonight. She said we don't know each other that well yet. Only got fiv and pau BBBJ. I guess I need to keep going back to splash and try again. I am pretty sure those high roller LVBs have gotten in to sample that fox..

BotoMoco
08-08-16, 13:42
Initial investment, it scares a lot of people away. I have dumped a truck load of money on a Splash girl. I got nothing, not only a field goal. And that girl kelp asking for more. I finally gave up.

Not a sure thing able to spike the ball on the end zone. I give you credit at least you tried. Some score TDs, guy like me got sacked for 20 yards loss.I guess I got lucky. But if you consider the initial investment compared to going to a MP the bar is a bad investment. I'm still behind if you just go by dollars and cents. We'll see if it even outs in the end. I can tell you this much tho. Its almost like having a semi GF. Not sure how many else she is banging but my impression is there is none but I could be wrong. Comparing to a provider at an MP that does one an hour.

TrueTemper
08-08-16, 22:58
I guess I got lucky. But if you consider the initial investment compared to going to a MP the bar is a bad investment. I'm still behind if you just go by dollars and cents. We'll see if it even outs in the end. I can tell you this much tho. Its almost like having a semi GF. Not sure how many else she is banging but my impression is there is none but I could be wrong. Comparing to a provider at an MP that does one an hour.Your the one and only. There is no such things as luck. Could it be like the GM's said second shift. Crazy, hope you not hooked yet. Just kidding, Have fun guys!!

FawkLuvah
08-08-16, 23:26
You got BBBJ from Fox for few drinks? I know a guy bought her a $7000 Hermes bag got Jack shit. I am jealous, please tell me your secret of sucess.

.I just didn't expect anything that night. Maybe a peck on the cheek. Just was being nice to her. I should've pursued more maybe? I will try again this week maybe. There are many other pretty ones in Spalsh, but the fox's bod is really slammin'. I guess you do not need to be a high roller to conquer that fox?

BotoMoco
08-09-16, 00:01
Your the one and only. There is no such things as luck. Could it be like the GM's said second shift. Crazy, hope you not hooked yet. Just kidding, Have fun guys!!Like I said I did drop some coin. But ill give you guys some hint. Go early when theres no competition. Sometimes you'll be the only 1 out of 5 in there or less. Good luck my bruddahs.

WarriorForLife
08-09-16, 04:38
You got both BBBJ and FIV from her all on the same night. Did you CIM? When you FIV, did she moaned?

I am sure a lot of her big fans want it to know too, please advice us if you do scored a TD. Thanks in advance.


I just didn't expect anything that night. Maybe a peck on the cheek. Just was being nice to her. I should've pursued more maybe? I will try again this week maybe. There are many other pretty ones in Spalsh, but the fox's bod is really slammin'. I guess you do not need to be a high roller to conquer that fox?

Blade82
08-09-16, 11:58
I guess I got lucky. But if you consider the initial investment compared to going to a MP the bar is a bad investment. I'm still behind if you just go by dollars and cents. We'll see if it even outs in the end. I can tell you this much tho. Its almost like having a semi GF. Not sure how many else she is banging but my impression is there is none but I could be wrong. Comparing to a provider at an MP that does one an hour.You seem bright to the point where you realized how much it already costed you. Perhaps too much? But you seem happy with where you at for the moment. I suggest just move on before you realize how much you got sucked in. If she really likes you, then she won't want you to be her customer anymore. But chances are she will continue to depend on you for her salary. Perhaps soon you guys will go out but totally at your expense. This is typically how the game is played. Not trying to rain on your parade, just trying to tell you from experience it is what it is. I think pretty much all 1 k+ senior if they were still here would advise the same.

Hawaiivb
08-09-16, 15:38
Haven't been out in a while drove by Blue Sea last night. When did they close?Most of the KBG from blue sea are at waterfall in Kalihi on Waiakamilo Kim, Sophia, Jay etc.

BotoMoco
08-09-16, 19:56
You seem bright to the point where you realized how much it already costed you. Perhaps too much? But you seem happy with where you at for the moment. I suggest just move on before you realize how much you got sucked in. If she really likes you, then she won't want you to be her customer anymore. But chances are she will continue to depend on you for her salary. Perhaps soon you guys will go out but totally at your expense. This is typically how the game is played. Not trying to rain on your parade, just trying to tell you from experience it is what it is. I think pretty much all 1 k+ senior if they were still here would advise the same.Thanks for the advise. I know I'm in too deep already but am cautious as to how this is going to play out. These chickas are so pro you don't know what's hitting you till its too late LOL. Oh the power of the all mighty pussy what it can do to us fools. I'll ride this out and keep you guys updated whether its the one in a million LOL.

Allbust
08-10-16, 00:39
I just didn't expect anything that night. Maybe a peck on the cheek. Just was being nice to her. I should've pursued more maybe? I will try again this week maybe. There are many other pretty ones in Spalsh, but the fox's bod is really slammin'. I guess you do not need to be a high roller to conquer that fox?Right on man. Makes me wonder if we should do a fox flash mob and see her in action too.

Peace out.

TrueTemper
08-10-16, 03:18
Right on man. Makes me wonder if we should do a fox flash mob and see her in action too.

Peace out.No give up. Be her regular and be patience and good things going happen.

MitsFunai
08-10-16, 22:20
All KBGs keep $ton thresholds on their potential LVBs. They keep track of the frequency, spending habits, and reward accordingly: spend at least $140 upon each visit and get their attention; reach the $700-1000 level and get hapshida (most guys going leave at this point if they no get nothing; KBGs know that); keep spending beyond that and get private audience at their place or yours; join in the rotation (you think you the only one?). These are guidelines that are commonplace amongst all KBGs because they like look good in front of the management, staff, and others; not just one cheap ho (which they are). Anyway, think about it and see if the spending and rewards are close to the aforementioned.

TrueTemper
08-11-16, 04:10
All KBGs keep $ton thresholds on their potential LVBs. They keep track of the frequency, spending habits, and reward accordingly: spend at least $140 upon each visit and get their attention; reach the $700-1000 level and get hapshida (most guys going leave at this point if they no get nothing; KBGs know that); keep spending beyond that and get private audience at their place or yours; join in the rotation (you think you the only one?). These are guidelines that are commonplace amongst all KBGs because they like look good in front of the management, staff, and others; not just one cheap ho (which they are). Anyway, think about it and see if the spending and rewards are close to the aforementioned.So what you are saying is my three neko's no mean nothing. What if I go every week and buy a KBG three drinks you think I can become her regular. Thanks GM. Only problem is I go once a month.

Aigoo!

WarriorForLife
08-11-16, 07:46
KBGs have high standard these days. I have a girl tell me " you only bought me 5 drinks" she hopped to another table after I refused to buy her the 6th.


So what you are saying is my three neko's no mean nothing. What if I go every week and buy a KBG three drinks you think I can become her regular. Thanks GM. Only problem is I go once a month.

Aigoo!.

John Ross
08-11-16, 08:49
So what you are saying is my three neko's no mean nothing. What if I go every week and buy a KBG three drinks you think I can become her regular. Thanks GM. Only problem is I go once a month.

Aigoo!Of course you can become a regular. You just won't have priority over a customer that spends more. Girls remember what their customers spend, what their limits are and how long they stay. The smart ones cultivate that customer and don't push that limit. Others not looking for longevity will do the hit and run.

Lots of girls figure out their regular income this way: (x = neko).

Monday. Scott 4 x, Mike 6 x, Al 5 x.

Tuesday. Mark 6 x, Steve 3 x, Charlie 8 x.

Wednesday. Frank 10 x, John 8 x.

Thursday. Andy 4 x, Chuck 4 x, Stacy 5 x.

Friday. Scott 3 x, John 5 x, Steve 3 x, Dan 7 x.

Saturday. Terry 10 x, Mike 4 x, Dan 5 x.

Anything additional is gravy. Adding up their regulars comes up to $2 k, less neko cost of $500, leaves them with $1500 a week. Not bad, but hard to survive on that. Sometimes they can catch a new customer, or tell their regular it is slow, so they get a tip, or extra nekos. Your 3 nekos does add up, along with everyone else's.

TrueTemper
08-11-16, 17:04
Of course you can become a regular. You just won't have priority over a customer that spends more. Girls remember what their customers spend, what their limits are and how long they stay. The smart ones cultivate that customer and don't push that limit. Others not looking for longevity will do the hit and run.

Lots of girls figure out their regular income this way: (x = neko).

Monday. Scott 4 x, Mike 6 x, Al 5 x.

Tuesday. Mark 6 x, Steve 3 x, Charlie 8 x.

Wednesday. Frank 10 x, John 8 x.

Thursday. Andy 4 x, Chuck 4 x, Stacy 5 x.

Friday. Scott 3 x, John 5 x, Steve 3 x, Dan 7 x.

Saturday. Terry 10 x, Mike 4 x, Dan 5 x.

Anything additional is gravy. Adding up their regulars comes up to $2 k, less neko cost of $500, leaves them with $1500 a week. Not bad, but hard to survive on that. Sometimes they can catch a new customer, or tell their regular it is slow, so they get a tip, or extra nekos. Your 3 nekos does add up, along with everyone else's.Never hear from you a long time. How's you and your Yobo doing?

MitsFunai
08-11-16, 22:52
So what you are saying is my three neko's no mean nothing. What if I go every week and buy a KBG three drinks you think I can become her regular. Thanks GM. Only problem is I go once a month.
Aigoo!That mean you smart, seon saeng. They got to chase you, not the other way around (get more meaning).

SquirtLuva69
08-12-16, 05:18
Walked in Summit late. Sat with mama TC and sorta new face "Kailee? Cute 5'4-5" skin, nice rack. Very pleasant to be with. If out and about would choose her again. Bar was sloooow though.

74 was busier. Didn't see any lookers except mama yumi and joanne.

John Ross
08-12-16, 07:08
Never hear from you a long time. How's you and your Yobo doing?We're doing fine. Thought we were going to have a baby a few months ago, but it was a false alarm. Too bad, I would love to have a son or daughter. I was even thinking about getting an au pair, preferably from Korea and hot.

Lumpia808
08-14-16, 22:06
Live report, EG slow.

H Mobius
08-15-16, 01:18
KBGs have high standard these days. I have a girl tell me " you only bought me 5 drinks" she hopped to another table after I refused to buy her the 6th.

.That's true. EG girls for instance were getting drinks 10 at a time from their guy, 10 shot glasses on a waitress tray; 200 bucks, and they were "repping" that.

TrueTemper
08-15-16, 02:37
That's true. EG girls for instance were getting drinks 10 at a time from their guy, 10 shot glasses on a waitress tray; 200 bucks, and they were "repping" that.Was going buy Gia another neko but hit and run from me and I wasn't Tsukebe. Have fun guys.

TrueTemper
08-15-16, 03:34
Former Mama of club Talent Jay has been such a ***** these days. I have had the chance to score three touch downs at her condo at Moana Pacific Towe B.

If any of you want to get lucky, PM me and I will PM you her room number and digits.

You will have to spend a little though. LOL.

I feel bad for all her LVBs, she constantly tells her LVBs that she loves them, seeing her texting to them in front of me.I knew her KBG friend that reads this forum just to head ups. I cracking up now BE!!

FawkLuvah
08-16-16, 22:47
Went to Splash last to go fox hunting. Found out she was off last night. I will have to go again this weekend.

Jaritsuh
08-17-16, 17:02
Went to Splash last to go fox hunting. Found out she was off last night. I will have to go again this weekend.I guess this was Monday night as she was there at 7:45 to 8 PM on Tuesday night she was on the bar with one of her customers, I give this lady credit she always has a customer and she is a hustler. I do see why a lot of guys are attracted to her and how some might fall for her but she is a unqualified shark a real pro who knows how to separate you from your kala, as long as you enjoy the ride and the pocket is deep you will have fun.

Weekend you will have a lot of competition, from a lot of her customers. Just don't be disappointed or have too much of an expectation. As you may have, or not she is not my cup of tea and she is one of the better ones (separating you from your money) there.

As always be safe and keep an eye out for the guys and gals in blue, I GOT STOPPED recently have your insurance card and paper work in order guys. Seem the quota is early this month.

Ball519
08-17-16, 22:06
So what's the 411 Boss? I go out occasionally nowdays so just wondering whom these ladies are for future ventures.Go ask for toni. She's cute and friendly.

Ball519
08-17-16, 22:12
Anybody went there yet?2nd shift. Wed / Thur. Cute bartender or c diane. Cute Chinese / Korean or stella. Gud luck.

Ball519
08-17-16, 22:15
Anybody went there yet?Wed / thurs bartender at Cleopatra name is lia.

Mongerholic
08-18-16, 06:47
Any reviews for this new KB / Mgt / Talent?

M.

Allbust
08-18-16, 12:25
I guess this was Monday night as she was there at 7:45 to 8 PM on Tuesday night she was on the bar with one of her customers, I give this lady credit she always has a customer and she is a hustler. I do see why a lot of guys are attracted to her and how some might fall for her but she is a unqualified shark a real pro who knows how to separate you from your kala, as long as you enjoy the ride and the pocket is deep you will have fun.

Weekend you will have a lot of competition, from a lot of her customers. Just don't be disappointed or have too much of an expectation. As you may have, or not she is not my cup of tea and she is one of the better ones (separating you from your money) there.

As always be safe and keep an eye out for the guys and gals in blue, I GOT STOPPED recently have your insurance card and paper work in order guys. Seem the quota is early this month.Anyone try sample the fox in the champain room yet? I don't have the fundings for that yet. LOL.

Peace out.

HurdMan2003
08-18-16, 13:48
Any info on Yujin, works at Starlite in kalihi.

SquirtLuva69
08-18-16, 16:26
Any reviews for this new KB / Mgt / Talent?

M.Just there last night. Mama is super nice. Sat with yujin 5'5 ish 120-125 english great and very nice personality and pretty, great singer. Did not push or ask for drinks. Would definitely sit with her everytime I go back.

HurdMan2003
08-18-16, 17:27
Just there last night. Mama is super nice. Sat with yujin 5'5 ish 120-125 english great and very nice personality and pretty, great singer. Did not push or ask for drinks. Would definitely sit with her everytime I go back.So, you never buy her any drinks? When were you there last night?

Udakine
08-18-16, 18:19
Just there last night. Mama is super nice. Sat with yujin 5'5 ish 120-125 english great and very nice personality and pretty, great singer. Did not push or ask for drinks. Would definitely sit with her everytime I go back.I wonder if she was a bartender at Vegas before.

Be safe bros.

LocalGuy808
08-18-16, 22:25
Any info on Yujin, works at Starlite in kalihi.Is this Yujin used to work vegas a few years ago then went dillingham complex? Kind of tall and lots of flowing hair?

Mongerholic
08-19-16, 04:50
Any 411 on this KB, KBG'S, and Mgt.

M.

Sab Ib
08-19-16, 09:28
Any info on Lisa K from EG. I took a beating for months to participate in her nekko fundraiser and I was one of the unlucky guys! Heard some stuff small island any info would be appreciated! Want to collaborate my info on her still seeing ex.

SquirtLuva69
08-19-16, 14:54
So, you never buy her any drinks? When were you there last night?Hurdman you are not reading. I said she never asked or pushed. That does not mean I didn't buy. I did buy many for her as she was very nice about the whole thing.

John Ross
08-19-16, 18:38
Any info on Lisa K from EG. I took a beating for months to participate in her nekko fundraiser and I was one of the unlucky guys! Heard some stuff small island any info would be appreciated! Want to collaborate my info on her still seeing ex.You have to take everything with a grain of salt. Some girls outright lie, others will do a half lie, and the unicorns tell the truth. People see them at Ala Moana or at a restaurant, they are with a customer, not bf. They get dropped off / picked up at work, it is a customer. Customer comes in with the girl, or is at the bar with the girl then drops her off. Bf doesn't spend time with her at work, because they spend time together outside the bar.

No need to get mad or feel stupid about this. All of us have been there.

Kalani69
08-19-16, 18:43
Any 411 on this KB, KBG'S, and Mgt.

M.This report was titled: Starlight on Sheridan.


Any info on Yujin, works at Starlite in kalihi.This report was titled: Starlite.

Are there really two Korean bars with the same name but different spelling and location? Been out of the KB scene for quite some time now with the exception of a foray every so many months so just wondering since I used to visit a fave at the former Cheers Station which I take is now one of the Starlites.

HurdMan2003
08-19-16, 19:00
Hurdman you are not reading. I said she never asked or pushed. That does not mean I didn't buy. I did buy many for her as she was very nice about the whole thing.I'm sorry, didn't read it right, just asking, saw her a few times, $40 drink, gets expensive really quick.

John Ross
08-19-16, 19:02
There are 2 bars with similar names. The Sheridan Street one is the old International, next to the Napa / Goodyear service center.

BotoMoco
08-20-16, 22:34
Just there last night. Mama is super nice. Sat with yujin 5'5 ish 120-125 english great and very nice personality and pretty, great singer. Did not push or ask for drinks. Would definitely sit with her everytime I go back.Dang I was there that night too. Never know where or who a fellow monger is haha. Yujin has a really nice personality you are right definitely buy her drinky.

WarriorForLife
08-21-16, 03:53
Went there around 8. Fox was busy, she was reeling in a big shark. So I had to sit on the side line. The guy she was sitting with spending big money on her. No TD for me tonight, not even a kiss from the sexy princess.

SquirtLuva69
08-21-16, 12:42
I'm sorry, didn't read it right, just asking, saw her a few times, $40 drink, gets expensive really quick.Well she must invariably like me, $20 drinks, never asked for one and drank my beer to refill hers often too. She is a gem.

Captin Crunch
08-21-16, 15:02
Well she must invariably like me, $20 drinks, never asked for one and drank my beer to refill hers often too. She is a gem.You the Man!

John Ross
08-21-16, 19:28
Went there around 8. Fox was busy, she was reeling in a big shark. So I had to sit on the side line. The guy she was sitting with spending big money on her. No TD for me tonight, not even a kiss from the sexy princess.I was there a couple hours later and the place was packed. Kay's tits do have a certain appeal, but there were a lot of tits on display last night. Some were not as big as Kay's, but the faces were better looking.

Shame
08-22-16, 02:44
New daytime bartenders Monday.

Allbust
08-22-16, 12:15
I was there a couple hours later and the place was packed. Kay's tits do have a certain appeal, but there were a lot of tits on display last night. Some were not as big as Kay's, but the faces were better looking.Couldn't make it to Splash last Saturday night even though The Notorious won. At least get some extra kala next time around. I might go here on Friday for the UH game. Stay safe bros.

Peace out.

WarriorForLife
08-22-16, 18:16
Fox has a church girl face looks packed with sex goddess boby. One of a kind big smile and nice personally. I see a lot of guys falling for her. There is just something special on her.


I was there a couple hours later and the place was packed. Kay's tits do have a certain appeal, but there were a lot of tits on display last night. Some were not as big as Kay's, but the faces were better looking..

LocalGuy808
08-22-16, 22:13
Was there Saturday and the MILF running the karaoke video was hot. She was wearing jeans and tight top. Her curves were awesome. Anyone know her name?

Allbust
08-22-16, 23:01
Was there Saturday and the MILF running the karaoke video was hot. She was wearing jeans and tight top. Her curves were awesome. Anyone know her name?Was it Ivy? She is kinda hot, and she sings / dances also. Her body even rivals that of the fox. Stay thirsty my friends.

LocalGuy808
08-23-16, 01:46
Was it Ivy? She is kinda hot, and she sings / dances also. Her body even rivals that of the fox. Stay thirsty my friends.No I know Ivy and it wasn't her. I'll have to go back and find out. Thanks.

BotoMoco
08-23-16, 01:49
No I know Ivy and it wasn't her. I'll have to go back and find out. Thanks.Hey guys. Any play from Ivy or any others there?

MisterLee
08-23-16, 11:37
I always start with covered but during our time together she took it off because condoms dry her out, especially when she is drunk. I always go for facials, which Ivy did not seem to mind. Some girls do. Whenever I have had the pleasure to have intimate relations with a bar girl, they always preferred no condom. I do not know if it a psychological thing were they feel condoms are too business like and want to let me know that they actually did want to go on a real date. Do not want to give impression of being sleazy? I do not know. This was the case with Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Viet and Thai bar girls. As I've said, I love the feeling of BB but always bring my protection along. But it is tough to adhere to this principle when I am getting busy. Getting back to Ivy, she told me that she actually graduated from college in Korea and has never worked in a bar prior to Talent. When you buy her drinks she drinks straight Crown Royal. She needs to get drunk to feel comfortable. That is what she told me. So she is more of a girl working at a bar than a professional bar girl. Whenever that is the case, it is a lot easier to date casually. I look specifically for these types. I hope this helps.She is hot and does play when drunk. Nice natural tits. Almost got to taste them but damn waiter came in the room. Shiit!

HurdMan2003
08-23-16, 19:15
She is hot and does play when drunk. Nice natural tits. Almost got to taste them but damn waiter came in the room. Shiit!How much are the shots of crown?

Cheez85
08-23-16, 21:39
She is hot and does play when drunk. Nice natural tits. Almost got to taste them but damn waiter came in the room. Shiit!Is this the older Ivy? 40 ish?

Allbust
08-23-16, 21:52
She is hot and does play when drunk. Nice natural tits. Almost got to taste them but damn waiter came in the room. Shiit!Was this in a booth or in the room? How much was the damage?

BotoMoco
08-24-16, 04:32
She is hot and does play when drunk. Nice natural tits. Almost got to taste them but damn waiter came in the room. Shiit!Play meaning FS or BBBJ? Or play just feel those tittis?

MisterLee
08-24-16, 11:35
How much are the shots of crown?Was regular $20. But I don't know for sure. I think my tab was juiced. Paid more than I wanted. Was it worth it? No, soft titties though, I will try again. And they are real!!

MisterLee
08-24-16, 11:41
Is this the older Ivy? 40 ish?I don't know her age. She looks about 40 ish. Maybe close to it. All I remember is her tits filled my hands. And I I've got big hands!! Maybe double D's.

MisterLee
08-24-16, 11:47
Was this in a booth or in the room? How much was the damage?$300+ in the room. But I was wasted when I got there. The only memory I have was squeezing them pumpkins. I was making Korean pumkin pie.

MisterLee
08-24-16, 11:49
Play meaning FS or BBBJ? Or play just feel those tittis?No FS or BBBJ. I loved them DFK though.

WarriorForLife
08-24-16, 15:28
There was no detail, play could consist of just playing with legs and booby.

Went to Summit the other day, the place was so dead it was depressing. Heard from one of the girls, the game room might not be materialized. But mama still be closing the room for now due to lack of business at the bar, saving some electricity on the AC.

That Fox still running wild at Splash. She has no shortage of customers. I guess when you are good at this business. You have bus load of guys waiting all the time.

Kalihi side Spotlite busy. Big boobs Julie still look as good as ever. Guess some people will never get old. Haha.


Play meaning FS or BBBJ? Or play just feel those tittis?

BotoMoco
08-24-16, 22:13
There was no detail, play could consist of just playing with legs and booby.

Went to Summit the other day, the place was so dead it was depressing. Heard from one of the girls, the game room might not be materialized. But mama still be closing the room for now due to lack of business at the bar, saving some electricity on the AC.

That Fox still running wild at Splash. She has no shortage of customers. I guess when you are good at this business. You have bus load of guys waiting all the time.

Kalihi side Spotlite busy. Big boobs Julie still look as good as ever. Guess some people will never get old. Haha.Dang. I wonder how much that guy who scored had to buy first. Its like a big gamble sometimes. Blow the coins and hope to get something at the end of the night or go home with blue balls and a hangover. I guess play is the word just play LOL.

Cheez85
08-25-16, 03:31
I don't know her age. She looks about 40 ish. Maybe close to it. All I remember is her tits filled my hands. And I I've got big hands!! Maybe double D's.Thanks for the info. Will have to check it out and see if that's the one I'm thinking about.

BotoMoco
08-25-16, 15:47
Hey when you guys refer to the Fox is her name Kay? Is this the same Kay that used to work at Business a couple years ago. I remember that Kay had a banging body and really happy demeanor about her. Just curious if this is the same kay or fox in reference. Aloha.

SquirtLuva69
08-25-16, 23:17
Hey when you guys refer to the Fox is her name Kay? Is this the same Kay that used to work at Business a couple years ago. I remember that Kay had a banging body and really happy demeanor about her. Just curious if this is the same kay or fox in reference. Aloha.Yes kay = Fox.

Local1234
08-25-16, 23:21
Yes kay = Fox.Sugi = Kay = Fox.

WarriorForLife
08-26-16, 01:52
Yes. Same person with different names. Fox is well traveled, from town to Kalihi and now back to town, she worked at Spotlite, 904, Halona in Kalihi. In town I have seen her at Business, EG, Summit, Splash, I might have missed few other places where she had worked.

Nice personality with a big smile. Super sexy body with huge set of melons. On a busy night, bus load of guys waiting for her companionship. That is why she has to table hop.


Sugi = Kay = Fox.

FawkLuvah
08-26-16, 03:38
Yes kay = Fox.The fox looking banging in that black dress she has on tonight. No shortage of old timer loverboys like previously mentioned. I will try to get in the mix, and hopefully get another BBBJ again. Or maybe more.

BotoMoco
08-26-16, 04:13
Yes kay = Fox.Is that the same Kay that used to work at Business tho? Like 2 years ago. She's really upbeat and fun. Likes to sing and probably is about 40's? She came from LA. If that is the same Kay that used to work at Business I might have to go visit her LOL.

BotoMoco
08-26-16, 13:10
Sorry for the repetitive questions on whether Kay is the same one that used to work at Business. I guess I should just go and see for myself. I used to have some History with her awhile back and damn if this is the same Kay that worked at business. Its will be a happy reunion. I've been out of the bar scene for a couple of years and only recently started back in. Thanks for the intel tho. Buy me drinky.

Allbust
08-26-16, 17:22
Sorry for the repetitive questions on whether Kay is the same one that used to work at Business. I guess I should just go and see for myself. I used to have some History with her awhile back and damn if this is the same Kay that worked at business. Its will be a happy reunion. I've been out of the bar scene for a couple of years and only recently started back in. Thanks for the intel tho. Buy me drinky.Were you able to get any action from her when she worked at Business? She must have been a popular chick back then and also the table hopping queen.

Peace out bro.

Lualualei808
08-27-16, 14:35
FYI -Wendy and Co. , the CBG's is now working at Summitt.

Cheez85
08-27-16, 14:43
Thanks for the info. Will have to check it out and see if that's the one I'm thinking about.Just FYI.

There's 2 Ivys working there.

1 is the massage therapist.

Didn't see the other one.

Mongerholic
08-27-16, 15:54
FYI -Wendy and Co. , the CBG's is now working at Summitt.CBG's=Canal Bar girls?

M.

BotoMoco
08-27-16, 16:31
Were you able to get any action from her when she worked at Business? She must have been a popular chick back then and also the table hopping queen.

Peace out bro.It was a triple to third base but no homerun.

WarriorForLife
08-27-16, 17:44
They have worked there before, save your money, they are there to talk, nothing more.


FYI -Wendy and Co. , the CBG's is now working at Summitt.

Viet Whisperer
08-27-16, 21:47
CBG's=Canal Bar girls?

M.Chinese bar girls. I kind of like the chubby one. Wendy is good eye candy for sure.

H Mobius
08-28-16, 03:08
Chinese bar girls. I kind of like the chubby one. Wendy is good eye candy for sure.I used to sit with her a few years ago. Her figure was awesome, hence she was very busy and usually hard to see.

John Ross
08-28-16, 07:35
Sorry for the repetitive questions on whether Kay is the same one that used to work at Business. I guess I should just go and see for myself. I used to have some History with her awhile back and damn if this is the same Kay that worked at business. Its will be a happy reunion. I've been out of the bar scene for a couple of years and only recently started back in. Thanks for the intel tho. Buy me drinky.I believe I did see her for a short while at Business / Summit. She bounced between Kalihi and the town bars including Evergreen.

WarriorForLife
08-30-16, 06:33
Obama will be on the island, heard some road will be closing and block off. Traffic would be congested by kapiolani area. Is it better to stay home or go else where on those 2 nights? I got caught in a big traffic Jam last time when the Summit was held at the convention center.

Ala Moana traffic would be affected too since some of the visitors and guests will be hitting the mall.

I probably will be at the Kalihi area since traffic would not be affected there.

Hello Kitty
08-30-16, 15:33
Chinese bar girls. I kind of like the chubby one. Wendy is good eye candy for sure.I guess I have to check that one out this week.

Blade82
09-01-16, 01:06
Obama will be on the island, heard some road will be closing and block off. Traffic would be congested by kapiolani area. Is it better to stay home or go else where on those 2 nights? I got caught in a big traffic Jam last time when the Summit was held at the convention center.

Ala Moana traffic would be affected too since some of the visitors and guests will be hitting the mall.

I probably will be at the Kalihi area since traffic would not be affected there.If you plan on going happy hour time, then yeah you will hit traffic. But there aren't really any scheduled closures in the evening despite Kailua side. Plus the closures are pretty much only going to the university area. Not sure what the schedule is tomorrow, but all in all if you go out the time the girls go to work, you shouldn't have much to worry about. Just check the news or papers to see scheduled closures. Usually a lot of his travel is by chopper anyway.

WarriorForLife
09-01-16, 18:51
Obama will be leaving this Friday. But 6000 delegates around the world will remain till the 10th to attend the summit. Lanes will be closing between the convention center and NBC so they can shuttle the people around. Transportation department advice people to avoid kapiolani between NBC and the convention center till the 10th.

I really do not know if they have any events during the evening hours. On the safe side I wI'll just hang out at kalihi side.


If you plan on going happy hour time, then yeah you will hit traffic. But there aren't really any scheduled closures in the evening despite Kailua side. Plus the closures are pretty much only going to the university area. Not sure what the schedule is tomorrow, but all in all if you go out the time the girls go to work, you shouldn't have much to worry about. Just check the news or papers to see scheduled closures. Usually a lot of his travel is by chopper anyway.

BotoMoco
09-01-16, 19:00
I believe I did see her for a short while at Business / Summit. She bounced between Kalihi and the town bars including Evergreen.When you saw her at Business was this 3-4 years ago when she first came back to Hawaii? I need to go check her out myself but I'm hooked up right now and can't risk the chance of being seen there. Damn. Haha. What a dilemna.

John Ross
09-03-16, 04:54
When you saw her at Business was this 3-4 years ago when she first came back to Hawaii? I need to go check her out myself but I'm hooked up right now and can't risk the chance of being seen there. Damn. Haha. What a dilemna.This was maybe 1.5 - 2 years ago.

Blackbriar
09-06-16, 04:21
Emerald City.

Cleopatra.

Blue Star.

Vegas 3.

T-Time.

Lilac.

Green Tee.

Eclipse.

Lucky Honu.

Five-0.

Waterfall.

Nabi.

Halona.

Kools.

Islander.

Spotlight.

Soomi.

K-Style.

904.

Starlite.

AKA P. WAter.

21 choices to get drunk but of the 21, how many are available for action?

Captin Crunch
09-06-16, 13:49
Emerald City.

Cleopatra.

Blue Star.

Vegas 3.

T-Time.

Lilac.

Green Tee.

Eclipse.

Lucky Honu.

Five-0.

Waterfall.

Nabi.

Halona.

Kools.

Islander.

Spotlight.

Soomi.

K-Style.

904.

Starlite.

AKA P. WAter.

21 choices to get drunk but of the 21, how many are available for action?Vegas 3 is now "Back to Vegas".

Viet Whisperer
09-06-16, 13:50
Emerald City.

Cleopatra.

Blue Star.

Vegas 3.

T-Time.

Lilac.

Green Tee.

Eclipse.

Lucky Honu.

Five-0.

Waterfall.

Nabi.

Halona.

Kools.

Islander.

Spotlight.

Soomi.

K-Style.

904.

Starlite.

AKA P. WAter.

21 choices to get drunk but of the 21, how many are available for action?Nice list. I have 5 on this list I've never been to. Depends on how you define action and whether it's in or out of the bar. All have takeout potential if you can connect with the lady. In bar I would say Waterfall for sure. If by action you mean OTPHJ than almost all places have a few but not all who will give you blue balls LOL.

WarriorForLife
09-06-16, 16:04
Almost every bars have some kind of action or play. Whethe it is just grab legs or a tiny lips lock. If you talk about FIP or FS. Then I would say you will have better lucks at V bars.

I see KBs are winding down on its last leg. KBGs are asking for too much, and most time you come away empty handed.


Emerald City.

Cleopatra.

Blue Star.

Vegas 3.

T-Time.

Lilac.

Green Tee.

Eclipse.

Lucky Honu.

Five-0.

Waterfall.

Nabi.

Halona.

Kools.

Islander.

Spotlight.

Soomi.

K-Style.

904.

Starlite.

AKA P. WAter.

21 choices to get drunk but of the 21, how many are available for action?

Pursuer
09-06-16, 19:59
Nice list. I have 5 on this list I've never been to. Depends on how you define action and whether it's in or out of the bar. All have takeout potential if you can connect with the lady. In bar I would say Waterfall for sure. If by action you mean OTPHJ than almost all places have a few but not all who will give you blue balls LOL.I agree, nice list. Been to all locations save for Soomi (is it a typical KB or more local?) at one time or another, and most in the past 2 months. As for play, I know it is to be had, although I don't partake. Still NEONing after all these years.

BotoMoco
09-07-16, 02:45
Here's one for you boys. The value on a KB girl is cheaper than a MP girl. A hot provider at an MP makes 20-30 k a month and a hot one at a KB makes less than half of that. Initial investments might be higher in a KB girl but in the end I think they appreciate you more. So if you're thinking of providing for one or the other that's the competitive rates. Just my thoughts. By the way I hit a grand slam and I'm berry berry sorry. Not LOL.

MisterLee
09-07-16, 10:51
Here's one for you boys. The value on a KB girl is cheaper than a MP girl. A hot provider at an MP makes 20-30 k a month and a hot one at a KB makes less than half of that. Initial investments might be higher in a KB girl but in the end I think they appreciate you more. So if you're thinking of providing for one or the other that's the competitive rates. Just my thoughts. By the way I hit a grand slam and I'm berry berry sorry. Not LOL.Don't think so bra. Unless you tell me with whom. And it's not her.

I made a foul ball this past weekend. Striving for the HR.

TrueTemper
09-07-16, 14:25
Here's one for you boys. The value on a KB girl is cheaper than a MP girl. A hot provider at an MP makes 20-30 k a month and a hot one at a KB makes less than half of that. Initial investments might be higher in a KB girl but in the end I think they appreciate you more. So if you're thinking of providing for one or the other that's the competitive rates. Just my thoughts. By the way I hit a grand slam and I'm berry berry sorry. Not LOL." Providing for one or the other " Does that mean taking them out of the business or just becoming their BBF or MPBF. Any way you are doing super good that is 3 or 4 KBG's in a couple of months.

Or less. I still looking for my first one. ME jealous. Have fun guys!!

TrueTemper
09-07-16, 15:05
" Providing for one or the other " Does that mean taking them out of the business or just becoming their BBF or MPBF. Any way you are doing super good that is 3 or 4 KBG's in a couple of months.

Or less. I still looking for my first one. ME jealous. Have fun guys!!Splash sat at the second bar the first one was all full. Did not see any Tsukebe's must be they are taking it outside. But that is only my speculation. No sight of the fox. EG no room at the bar and all the girls sitting in the booths. Talent met Jong MILF she drank super slow and I guided her hand on Chagi plus she show me her nipple. It was a long winter for me. The KB's not dead yet.

BotoMoco
09-08-16, 09:35
" Providing for one or the other " Does that mean taking them out of the business or just becoming their BBF or MPBF. Any way you are doing super good that is 3 or 4 KBG's in a couple of months.

Or less. I still looking for my first one. ME jealous. Have fun guys!!I was referring to taking them out of the business. I think comparing top tier bar girl to a top tier MP girl the value is way lower on the KB girl. Typically she doesn't make as much and is a little different. I was thinking about it the other day. Top tier massage girl fucks 8-10 guys a day. Multiply that by a month and damn. That's a lot of dick going up that pussy. No way well not sure but the odds are really hight that a KB girl would never come close to that. I really got lucky the last couple of months to say the least. Maybe it was timing.

WarriorForLife
09-08-16, 16:22
You must have a loaded wallet or as good looking as Brad Pitt. Unless you settled for grandma or has been. To score a grand slam on top tier ladies at KBs is almost impossible without money or good looks I have seen too many guys going down chasing their dreams without getting even a hit.

It's really your preference between getting fucked, some prefer a sure thing at MP, some like chellenge at the KBs. To score a "top tier" princess at KBs needs one of the two things. A loaded wallet or Brads looks. If you have none of that. Then they will just thow you a 60 mph off speed for a K.


Here's one for you boys. The value on a KB girl is cheaper than a MP girl. A hot provider at an MP makes 20-30 k a month and a hot one at a KB makes less than half of that. Initial investments might be higher in a KB girl but in the end I think they appreciate you more. So if you're thinking of providing for one or the other that's the competitive rates. Just my thoughts. By the way I hit a grand slam and I'm berry berry sorry. Not LOL.

Viet Whisperer
09-08-16, 17:31
I was referring to taking them out of the business. I think comparing top tier bar girl to a top tier MP girl the value is way lower on the KB girl. Typically she doesn't make as much and is a little different. I was thinking about it the other day. Top tier massage girl fucks 8-10 guys a day. Multiply that by a month and damn. That's a lot of dick going up that pussy. No way well not sure but the odds are really hight that a KB girl would never come close to that. I really got lucky the last couple of months to say the least. Maybe it was timing.Value in terms of money they are more expensive than AMP girls. You didn't score I'm sure without spending over 200 in drinks and food right? Probably spent way more than 1 k getting in her pants over several visits if you add it up. When you go out do you end up at her bar buying drinks after dinner? I'm guessing yes. Probably spending at least 300 a date probably more.

Quality is another story. There are some really nice looking women in the bars but most aren't as good at sex as an AMP girl. Throw in them being drunk which can really put a damper on the evening also. AMP girls while seeing more men will usually end up being easier, less time, they're sober, better sex and less money for similar quality or better.

I'm down to one kbg that I enjoy and don't even listen to my own advice LOL. I was trying to play Pokemon Go Korean Bar style and catch them all I found interest in. I banged quite a few and it was fun. It gets so expensive and most weren't worth it in the end. I find it hard getting rid of them also. I got lucky recently and 2 girls I was seeing at different places started working in the same bar so that made it easier to walk away from seeing them as I hate drama. It's fun stuff and great memories but even knowing better I'm still pretty dumb in the bar at times.

SquirtLuva69
09-08-16, 23:40
Splash sat at the second bar the first one was all full. Did not see any Tsukebe's must be they are taking it outside. But that is only my speculation. No sight of the fox. EG no room at the bar and all the girls sitting in the booths. Talent met Jong MILF she drank super slow and I guided her hand on Chagi plus she show me her nipple. It was a long winter for me. The KB's not dead yet.Foxx in the house, bought 2 drinks got some wet lip kisses, she held both my hands and grabbed her braless boobs in front of the whole table, lapped danced a song. LOL yuri stopped by. Saw coco too. Action and talent in that bar.

Stopped by camelot met Tammy korean/italian spinner with tats and piercing..awesome chick will be checking her out more

Summit Kylee waa nice eye candy, bought her couple drinks, more girl in there now

BotoMoco
09-10-16, 17:38
Value in terms of money they are more expensive than AMP girls. You didn't score I'm sure without spending over 200 in drinks and food right? Probably spent way more than 1 k getting in her pants over several visits if you add it up. When you go out do you end up at her bar buying drinks after dinner? I'm guessing yes. Probably spending at least 300 a date probably more.

Quality is another story. There are some really nice looking women in the bars but most aren't as good at sex as an AMP girl. Throw in them being drunk which can really put a damper on the evening also. AMP girls while seeing more men will usually end up being easier, less time, they're sober, better sex and less money for similar quality or better.

I'm down to one kbg that I enjoy and don't even listen to my own advice LOL. I was trying to play Pokemon Go Korean Bar style and catch them all I found interest in. I banged quite a few and it was fun. It gets so expensive and most weren't worth it in the end. I find it hard getting rid of them also. I got lucky recently and 2 girls I was seeing at different places started working in the same bar so that made it easier to walk away from seeing them as I hate drama. It's fun stuff and great memories but even knowing better I'm still pretty dumb in the bar at times.I guess the reference in value that I was talking about was if you were to take a KB out of work and compare to a MP girl if you had to compensate them monthly the difference is way less on a KB girl. Idk.

BotoMoco
09-10-16, 20:59
You must have a loaded wallet or as good looking as Brad Pitt. Unless you settled for grandma or has been. To score a grand slam on top tier ladies at KBs is almost impossible without money or good looks I have seen too many guys going down chasing their dreams without getting even a hit.

It's really your preference between getting fucked, some prefer a sure thing at MP, some like chellenge at the KBs. To score a "top tier" princess at KBs needs one of the two things. A loaded wallet or Brads looks. If you have none of that. Then they will just thow you a 60 mph off speed for a K.I didn't settle for grandma that's one thing for sure. She is top tier and we'll see how this plays out. I totally understand all the play but hey you got to give a player credit too. Some got game and some don't. Not meaning I'm playing her but sometimes the stars align and you get lucky. It could be timing, it could be money and it could be looks. From my understanding age doesn't play too heavily in them choosing a partner to hang with. As long as they know they will be financially set is pretty much it. Anyway. You have to be on your A game 110 percent of the time. Good luck boys.

H Mobius
09-11-16, 15:14
I still looking for my first one. ME jealous.If this helps at all, just think of all the "lucky" guys over the years and decades who "scored" and eventually ran out of money, lost their families and / or wound up in prison trying to scrape up ever-more money for their girl.

Mongerholic
09-11-16, 23:02
Just drove by Starlight on Sheridan St. And noticed that their Starlight marquee sign is no longer there. Anyone have any info regarding the status of the business, mgt, or the KBG's?

M.

John Ross
09-12-16, 06:46
Just drove by Starlight on Sheridan St. And noticed that their Starlight marquee sign is no longer there. Anyone have any info regarding the status of the business, mgt, or the KBG's?

M.It looks like another bar bites the dust. I'm guessing Ashley's sponsor ran out of money, or said enough of this money pit. Who is next to step up to the plate and lose lots of money?