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So Kyong and the regulars(Penny,Sunny and Choi) no longer work at LH? Please say this isn't true.
I think as of right now they are there. But may be gone very soon. In fact Kyong was saying that Sunny was coming in less and less as it is... Never saw her that day so I'm not sure how true that is...
I think as of right now they are there. But may be gone very soon. In fact Kyong was saying that Sunny was coming in less and less as it is... Never saw her that day so I'm not sure how true that is...
Wow..ok, if all this is true from what you guys are saying, I just wanna give a shout out to all of the braddahs who have helped and made my experience at LH very enjoyable over the past year and a half.
I still have Sunny's number, I would call her but maybe it's wiser to let the dust settle first.
As it is, my S.O. is still rockin my world..
One night was funny, my S.O. was snooping around my cell phone "contacts" list, and she goes; who is "Sonny D.S.L."?
HAHA! :D
Hinode
Wow..ok, if all this is true from what you guys are saying, I just wanna give a shout out to all of the braddahs who have helped and made my experience at LH very enjoyable over the past year and a half.
I still have Sunny's number, I would call her but maybe it's wiser to let the dust settle first.
As it is, my S.O. is still rockin my world..
One night was funny, my S.O. was snooping around my cell phone "contacts" list, and she goes; who is "Sonny D.S.L."?
HAHA! :D
HinodeSonny? That's my friend that fixes my internet.
CheapCharlie
11-10-07, 06:47
Bad news people,Sunny isn't showing up anymore and Kyong went to Korea. Now theres only Penny and that c*#$ Choi.
Just got back from Evergreen, and the place was pretty busy. Sat with this Filipina girl Elaine and she was pretty hot. Good face, nice body. She wasn't much of a talker though, and after I bought her one drink, she "had to go to the bathroom. " Didn't end up seeing her again for the rest of the night. Let's just say that killed my buzz.
I'd really like to see her again as her looks were a solid 8-9.
Was at Vegas II last night. The girls there all know about LH and what its reputation. The girl I was sitting with said that the new owner may not be able to get the liquor license transferred because of all the violations in the past and she is suing. So LH might go under altogether. She also said that the word was the "new" LH would be a more "legit" KB, i.e., customers will have to "work" (pay $$$$) for favors.
Talked with mama for a brief stint. Confirmed reports say that LH is going to close, I asked her what she was gonna do, and she said, "I dont know." Asked for Kyong. Gone to Korea. Asked for Sunny. Said she doesnt come in anymore. Choi wasnt there, Penny was, but was busy with other customers.
Mama told me to go with the bartender, the 500 lb girl. I said, no thanks, Ill pass. Seen Soon Ja pass by. Started laughing at me, forced herself into my booth, bought her one drink, back to the room, BBBJTCIP. Total damage among all the drinks had to have been $$, I bought mama a drink too.
I felt bad about LH changing management, but I had to go one last time. Ill probably call up Sunny later..
Hinode
What's a good KB to go to for a younger guy. Seems like most of the places are for 30+ men.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. Just the impression I get.
Peckerwood
11-15-07, 00:34
Sunny is still coming in at LH, last I heard they are closing this Saturday 11/17.
Edward King
11-15-07, 06:54
What's a good KB to go to for a younger guy. Seems like most of the places are for 30+ men.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. Just the impression I get.Evergreen @ just after 2AM. Lots of girls from the other clubs go there for after-hours action.
CheapCharlie
11-15-07, 10:29
Sunny is still coming in at LH, last I heard they are closing this Saturday 11/17.
I was there last week,one of the guys at the bar asked for her. The chubby bartender told the guy that she hasn't been coming in anymore.Are you sure that she is still at LH? Might have to go this week to confirm a Sunny sighting.
I was there last week,one of the guys at the bar asked for her. The chubby bartender told the guy that she hasn't been coming in anymore.Are you sure that she is still at LH? Might have to go this week to confirm a Sunny sighting.Sunny was there last night. She said that she might be there tonight too.
What's a good KB to go to for a younger guy. Seems like most of the places are for 30+ men.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. Just the impression I get.
Nah, age is not the criterion. Disposable income is.
Generally, younger guys don't have the cash to sling around. OTOH, they usually got game and can get better bang for the buck (so to speak) by working for it, if you know what I mean.
But avoid the bars in the outlying areas. In general, ground zero is the Kapiolani/Keeaumoku area. As the women's marketability wanes, they migrate further away. Just a rule of thumb -- I have seen 'em young and hot in Kalihi, but in Waipahu, young means under forty. Pearl City and Aiea is a wasteland.
Pardon me for some unsolicited advice, but it sounds as if you might not understand the drill. If you already know the game, pardon my blathering.
1. Don't fall in love. Don't even fall in like. Refer to the recent Black Stallion incident. The women are not in the bar for the social scene. They are there to make money.
2. When you go to these bars, you are paying for their company. As I see it, LH might be the last of its kind. You are paying for the chance to talking your way into their pants.
3. If you are on a recon mission and not ready to engage, be low profile and don't loiter too long. If a girl approaches you and you say "next time", odds are there won't be a next time unless business is real slow.
4. See rule #1.
As always, the preceding is my opinion only. YMMV. Any resemblance to real persons living or dead is purely coincidental. Void where prohibited. Some assembly required. List each check separately by bank number. Batteries not included. Contents may settle during shipment.
Night Colors
11-17-07, 14:12
Nah, age is not the criterion. Disposable income is.
Generally, younger guys don't have the cash to sling around. OTOH, they usually got game and can get better bang for the buck (so to speak) by working for it, if you know what I mean.
But avoid the bars in the outlying areas. In general, ground zero is the Kapiolani/Keeaumoku area. As the women's marketability wanes, they migrate further away. Just a rule of thumb -- I have seen 'em young and hot in Kalihi, but in Waipahu, young means under forty. Pearl City and Aiea is a wasteland.
Pardon me for some unsolicited advice, but it sounds as if you might not understand the drill. If you already know the game, pardon my blathering.
1. Don't fall in love. Don't even fall in like. Refer to the recent Black Stallion incident. The women are not in the bar for the social scene. They are there to make money.
2. When you go to these bars, you are paying for their company. As I see it, LH might be the last of its kind. You are paying for the chance to talking your way into their pants.
3. If you are on a recon mission and not ready to engage, be low profile and don't loiter too long. If a girl approaches you and you say "next time", odds are there won't be a next time unless business is real slow.
4. See rule #1.Love? Actually it is possible, just very very difficult and you'll get burned over 99% of the time. I have actually seen it work two times out of thousands of attempts. The best chance is with new girls before they get hardened and you need to be fun and respectful, of similar age, not sleezy or pushy, go on friendly dates and see how they act and earn their trust. That said it would be smarter and a whole lot cheaper just to meet girls online from dating sites or from overseas.
Every rule has exceptions, but this would be a daunting task. Better to try somewhere else.
Just got back from Evergreen, and the place was pretty busy. Sat with this Filipina girl Elaine and she was pretty hot. Good face, nice body. She wasn't much of a talker though, and after I bought her one drink, she "had to go to the bathroom. " Didn't end up seeing her again for the rest of the night. Let's just say that killed my buzz.
I'd really like to see her again as her looks were a solid 8-9.Imho, don't waste your time with her or any other local girls there. The local girls are there to party but also to take your money. If it looks like you don't have money they will try to get whatever they can out of you and then make an excuse to leave and either find another customer to get $$ from or they want to split and go clubbing. The bathroom excuse was basically a message that the girl wasn't interested in you, sorry.
As for head lock's and night colors words of wisdom, yes, they are good rules to follow as it is difficult (but not impossible) to hook up seriously with a bar girl. And then it is hard to see if the girl was just using you or just wanted you for your money. Best to not take the chance and spend lots of bucks on a girl that is there to just take you for your $$.
Iliketowatch
11-19-07, 22:26
Friday was busy. UH game. We were at Business and it was crowded. Young girls came in late. Strolled to Casino, was busy too, saw some new girls. Yuri's, all seats taken. Not too many girls, the usual. I guess they are waiting for Maya to take back the bar. Earlier in the week we went to Black Jack. Crazy set up. Approx. 6-8 small bars within a large bar. I guess these girls want to be little mamas. Beer was 4 bucks. Girl selection sparse. Small mamas are same girls you've seen at other bars. Not worth my while. One room, no where to play.
On another note: As head lock says, don't fall in love with these bar girls. You really can't fall in love with a bar girl. If you feel like you are, you are just "falling in lust with them" not love. What your feeling is not love. It's like the movie stars getting married, just lust and physical attraction, not love. Use them or they will use you.
Adios!
Night Colors
11-20-07, 02:22
Imho, don't waste your time with her or any other local girls there. The local girls are there to party but also to take your money. If it looks like you don't have money they will try to get whatever they can out of you and then make an excuse to leave and either find another customer to get $$ from or they want to split and go clubbing. The bathroom excuse was basically a message that the girl wasn't interested in you, sorry.
As for head lock's and night colors words of wisdom, yes, they are good rules to follow as it is difficult (but not impossible) to hook up seriously with a bar girl. And then it is hard to see if the girl was just using you or just wanted you for your money. Best to not take the chance and spend lots of bucks on a girl that is there to just take you for your $$.Spending lots of bucks is the worst thing you can do, it sets the standard that that's what it's all about. Lots of bucks as in lots of drinks and/or expensive shopping trips. If it's just for play fine, but if she doesn't ask for costly gifts, doesn't push you for drinks, and keeps her word about showing up for a dates, then that's a promising sign. If not, it ain't going to happen and it's time to look elsewhere. Again, trying to make this happen is very tough, and if it ain't working just give up early and move on. If you are not on the same social / age level, then it's just a money thing and nothing more.
Iliketowatch
11-20-07, 16:00
Through my 40 yrs. of mongering, I had many friends spend big bucks on these girls to try and get them to be a real girlfriend. All of them crashed and burned. One thing they all told me was, it's so much easier to approach a bar girl then it is to apprach a girl in a club or at a restaurant. And imho that's where the downfall is. Us guys, who don't have the looks, feel we have no chance to hook the big one in public, so in the kb's we stand a better chance. Advantage girl. They know this. The less attractive the man, the better scam they can play. Ever heard a girl say about a good looking guy, I don't like him, he a player. It's not because they can hook up with him cause he's always with another girl, it's because the can't make money off of him because he'll just find another girl if she gets too money hungry. My friends all went crazy with these bar girl semi-relationships. Too many questions: what is she doing in the room, what is she doing in the booth, she has to go to work and not go out with me, can't let my customers see me with you or I won't get drinks, on and on. If you go to a club and a girl turns you down, at least you know she's not interested. Use this as a blessing. Your better off without her. In the bars, you never know. Never. That's no way to live. Only one friend had a legit girlfriend for about 2 years . . . but, she actually quit the bar to be with him and found a job at a korean restaurant. But as time went on he found out the cultures they grew up in were too different and broke up. Stay smart guys.
Aaron Colt
11-21-07, 07:49
Through my 40 yrs. of mongering, I had many friends spend big bucks on these girls to try and get them to be a real girlfriend. All of them crashed and burned. One thing they all told me was, it's so much easier to approach a bar girl then it is to apprach a girl in a club or at a restaurant. And imho that's where the downfall is. Us guys, who don't have the looks, feel we have no chance to hook the big one in public, so in the kb's we stand a better chance. Advantage girl. They know this. The less attractive the man, the better scam they can play. Ever heard a girl say about a good looking guy, I don't like him, he a player. It's not because they can hook up with him cause he's always with another girl, it's because the can't make money off of him because he'll just find another girl if she gets too money hungry. My friends all went crazy with these bar girl semi-relationships. Too many questions: what is she doing in the room, what is she doing in the booth, she has to go to work and not go out with me, can't let my customers see me with you or I won't get drinks, on and on. If you go to a club and a girl turns you down, at least you know she's not interested. Use this as a blessing. Your better off without her. In the bars, you never know. Never. That's no way to live. Only one friend had a legit girlfriend for about 2 years . . . but, she actually quit the bar to be with him and found a job at a korean restaurant. But as time went on he found out the cultures they grew up in were too different and broke up. Stay smart guys.
Nice reply. Right on the money.
I started to see this girl and told her I don't have money or looks but she told me it's not about that. I know she has drama in her life and some people told me she always drunk everynight. I always thinking in the back of my head that I'm being play. One day bought her two drinks and had only 15. 00 left on the table and she asks for some more drinks and I told her I had no more money so she went to her bag and took out some money and put it on my 15. 00 told me to buy her drinks. I told her thats not my money and she said her money is my money.
''wow that was the fist time that happen to me''
One other time this happen again no money and we was getting her drinks from her money. She ask me what I happen to my money and told her I spend it at the other bars
On her birthday I was really drunk and I told her that I'm not a good guy and can never make her happy and then she start crying. Her friend came and scold me and my friend slap me on the back of my head telling me what the hell I'm doing she like you. ''sorry maybe I can't read the signs''
Lastnight we went to Little Soul to drink and her coworker came later on so they was jamming on there korean. '' yes I don't speak korean'' anyways they was talking about some customers. ''and yes they was explaining to me in english about the customers. Its funny watching them cause I felt like I was watching korean dama without sub title.
Lastnight she call me from her work and ask if I wanted to go drinking and then drop her back at her work place but I told her I don't have money.
Thats the Third time I told her I don't have money. '' is it 3 strike and I'm out? ''
Haven't been out for awhile, but decided to check out LH tonight after the UH Game. Actually, been in there at least once a month for the past few months, but I'll write here about the happenings tonight.
No change in ownership yet. Sat at the bar, then over comes Sunny. After some small talk, we head to a booth. We talk and Sunny says that not sure when the new mama will take over. She heard that she's young, and coming over from the westside. First drink, we get into some crotch grabbing, second drink, more of the same. Ask if the "suite" is available, and she says yeah. Head for a pitstop first, then we actually go to the "Office." She starts stripping down, some DFK, and she's tugging at the belt and pants buttons, pulls it down, and BBBJ. She gets into a rhythm, and I almost blow it, so pull her up and get her to the desk top. She goes for a condom and I say no. She says okay, but "come outside honey." A little DATY and BBFS begins for about 10 minutes. We move over to a small table, and her being so petite, she fits perfectly on there. Some mish and about 10-15 minutes later, she senses that I'm on the verge, so she says pull out, I say no, let me shoot inside, and she says okay. A few strokes later, I blowing my wad inside of her tight, wet pussy. She's a trooper...cleans me up, we start to dress, and a good night kiss on the way out.
Not sure when the ownership will change, but get your Sunny fix soon!
Damage - 0.4$ drinks; BBBJ, tit sucking, DATY, BBFSTCIP - $
More on some LH action in another post.
Stay safe bros!
PoiDog
just a posting for my last two visits to LH (before tonight's escapade - see my other post)
About 2 months ago, was in there on a sunday after golfing and had Sue (sp?) come over to me on the bar as it was a slow night. Kinda older looking, but petite (which is what I like). One drink, some small talk, and she's already stroking Mr. Willy through my pants, and I'm up her dress, between the legs doing my own exploring. She says, "hows about we go karaoke" and I say okay. We get in there, give her the cash, and she starts to undress. I would say A-cups, but slim. I sit down and she lies belly down and proceeds with BBBJ. I'm rubbing her **** by then and FIV. I tell her she's pretty wet, and she says "because I'm sucking your cock and I'm horny."
I tell to get on her back, and she says BB is okay. Do some mish, while sucking on her pert nipples, and I'm just pounding away. I then tell her to get on her knees for some doggie. While I'm pounding away, she tells me that she's cumming, and she does get a little wetter. She says okay to me keeping it in, so I complete the deed by shooting inside of her.
We clean up, dress, and I'm out the door with a kiss.
Damage - 0.2$ drink, and $ for BBFSTCIP.
About a month ago, went in looking for Sunny, but she wasn't coming in. I really wanted to do someone, saw Sue, but she had a customer. So over comes Tammy. One drink and we're into the karaoke room. She had just come to work, so at least she was fresh. She strips down, goes to her knees for some BBBJ. After a few minutes of that, she says "lets fuck honey.", so on goes the cover, and I'm doing her in mish for about 15 minutes...couldn't hold it anymore, she was squeezing my cock with her ****, so blew the wad.
This one was too short of a time, and Tammy seemed mechanical.
Damage - 0.2$ drink, and $ for CFS.
that's it for my reports...stay safe y'all!
PoiDog
CheapCharlie
11-25-07, 02:21
I dunno about all these reports about going BB with those LH ladies. Aren't you guys worried about catching something? Especially since most of the ladies there are high mileage and who knows how many others guys they did before you.Did Kyong come back from Korea yet?
Bronze Beast
11-25-07, 03:40
I dunno about all these reports about going BB with those LH ladies. Aren't you guys worried about catching something? Especially since most of the ladies there are high mileage and who knows how many others guys they did before you.I agree with you CheapCharlie. Consistent BB action is also being reported at the Nirvana AMP. Apparently, these mongers if telling the truth that they are getting BB really are not concerned at all. Fact of the matter is that there is no longer a worry that one may catch something but more of a reality that one will. Certainly this decision is an individual one that is made without coercion. We just want to remind you fellow mongers that most of our providers are world famous to be clean however there are those that are not especially when they "do what it takes" to earn that cash quickly. Please be safe. YMMV. Mahalo.
Member #3973
11-25-07, 16:51
Requesting BB service at the bars and AMPs or from SWs is completely irresponsible. Chlamydia is very common in Hawaii and drug resistant strains of gonorrhea are surfacing. Occasionally, providers have said to me that we do not need a condom, but I have insisted and told them that they never should do that. Even the cleanest monger can catch something from BB service, particularly from BBFS.
In countries with regulated prostitution and consistent condom use, forexample Germany or Mexico, the STD rate among providers who consistently use condoms, are lower than the regular population. Among who don't it is way higher.
Hopefully, many of the BBFS reports are fiction.
Night Colors
11-25-07, 23:52
Requesting BB service at the bars and AMPs or from SWs is completely irresponsible. Chlamydia is very common in Hawaii and drug resistant strains of gonorrhea are surfacing. Occasionally, providers have said to me that we do not need a condom, but I have insisted and told them that they never should do that. Even the cleanest monger can catch something from BB service, particularly from BBFS.
In countries with regulated prostitution and consistent condom use, forexample Germany or Mexico, the STD rate among providers who consistently use condoms, are lower than the regular population. Among who don't it is way higher.
Hopefully, many of the BBFS reports are fiction.For real, I admit I only had BBFSTCIP only once in a bar and it was eight years ago. But I don't monger anymore so I don't worry about it.
Alohashorts
11-26-07, 01:41
I guess they don't give a damn about std's. Das nuts! I like getting play time with most bar ladies, but I scared go there.
I guess they don't give a damn about std's. Das nuts! I like getting play time with most bar ladies, but I scared go there.
Unlike gonorrhea and most other STDs, symptoms for HIV can take as long as 10 years to surface. So, for those who regularly go BB, get yourself tested on a regular basis.
My girl wanted to see her friend at moon flower on saterday. was kind of busy and nice looking girls but really cannot stare. saw some guys I know but they was busy with there girls. mama look like she lost weight from the last time I seen her.
My girl wanted to see her friend at moon flower on saterday. was kind of busy and nice looking girls but really cannot stare. saw some guys I know but they was busy with there girls. mama look like she lost weight from the last time I seen her.
Did Moon Flower reopen?
Did Moon Flower reopen?I think they did or I got the name wrong. never did go to the two bar.I always go to camelot in the afternoon to check on Julia the bartender I thought she was hot at that time." But I got someone better."
Not sure when the ownership will change, but get your Sunny fix soon!
PoiDog
I got my fix. :cool:
Hinode
Went there Sunday and it was slow. Just was checking it out and saw Sunny, she said that the bar will close Thursday, November 29 and the new owner will take over December 1st. I think the girls will be searching for other places in Kalihi but not sure where.
Msbuhy
Humpmeehard
11-30-07, 02:55
I heard comelot is a a popular place. Can anyone confirm this?
I heard comelot is a a popular place. Can anyone confirm this?
Very popular as there are quite a bit of hotties there. Gigi, Jay, Yujin, Nikki, Momi, Mimi ...
I went to LH tonight as I've been reading that it is scheduled to close. Walked in and right away was snatched up by Sunny. There were about 6 customers in the place already. I had some small talk with her and went straight into the karaoke room. Forget the drinks, time to get right down to business. DFK, FIV, BLS, BBBJ, Italian, DS, Mish, and FS. Notheing was really said or discussed about what the future holds. Total damage $.5
O-right!
I heard comelot is a a popular place. Can anyone confirm this?Yes comelot is one of the popular place.
Humpmeehard
11-30-07, 13:43
Very popular as there are quite a bit of hotties there. Gigi, Jay, Yujin, Nikki, Momi, Mimi ...I don't mind paying for drink but do they give HJ or BJs?
Had a few hours to kill in Pearl City the other morning and stopped by the Princess Palace in search of Hana. Got BBBJ and HJ from earlier visits and I have to admit I like the GFE even though she is about 25 years my senior. Walked in and got a beer, but the place was empty. Was leaving the parking lot when I saw here sitting in front of the Silk Lady. Parked again and walked in. She didn't remember me from before, but we talked for about two minutes before she was in my pants. This woman was all over me! Whipped it out and got a BBBJ in the booth for a good 10 min. She asked if I like to eat pussy and if I wanted to return the favor. Told her I only wanted a BJ and only had $, couldn't we negotiate in the back room? Went to the back and she went to town. Just to see what I could get away with I stuck my finger in her ass while she was busy. She didn't mind for a bit, but I felt her tense up so I stopped. She hiked up her skirt and I DATY. She started asking me how long it took me to get back up if I came once. Then came the "I want your cock in my pussy" and she tried to jump on BB. Had to pull the reins in and slow it down a bit. Told her I wouldn't do it w/o a raincoat. "Don't worry baby, I'm clean", was her reply. I thought about the previous posts on this board and didn't do it, but damned if I didn't think twice about it. She finished me up and even gave me a massage afterwards. Total damage $. 2 with the obligatory drink. I miss the BJ from LH's Blendy. She wasn't the best looking, but she had some skill.
I don't mind paying for drink but do they give HJ or BJs?
I get to Camelot infrequently, but other than the karaoke rooms, there doesn't seem to be a spot with the requisite privacy for such shenanigans. I'm sure others have scouted more thoroughly. I normally just kill time at the bar.
As I noted earlier, especially with hotties, if you want to play, you are going to pay. If you are in it for the thrill of the chase, enjoy your hunt. If you are looking for the happy ending, go to an AMP. Your dollar will go much further.
Humpmeehard
12-01-07, 12:17
I get to Camelot infrequently, but other than the karaoke rooms, there doesn't seem to be a spot with the requisite privacy for such shenanigans. I'm sure others have scouted more thoroughly. I normally just kill time at the bar.
As I noted earlier, especially with hotties, if you want to play, you are going to pay. If you are in it for the thrill of the chase, enjoy your hunt. If you are looking for the happy ending, go to an AMP. Your dollar will go much further.I like the hunt, but also that happy ending-always!
I went to LH tonight as I've been reading that it is scheduled to close. Walked in and right away was snatched up by Sunny. There were about 6 customers in the place already. I had some small talk with her and went straight into the karaoke room. Forget the drinks, time to get right down to business. DFK, FIV, BLS, BBBJ, Italian, DS, Mish, and FS. Notheing was really said or discussed about what the future holds. Total damage $.5
O-right!Was at Vegas II last night. LH was totally dark. Word is they are going to do major renovation, get new girls, reopen in a month or two. Anyone know where the old favorites have gone? BTW at Vegas II saw lots of groping and fondling but booths not conducive to serious (BBHJ, titty play, FIV, FOV) play and didn't see that rooms were being used. Girls generally on the older side (30s-40s).
Went to Cheers Station last month and sat with tall, statuesque, part Japanese hostess called herself Cindy. Has huge fake tits that she shows off. Normal physical contact (hold hands, rub my leg, rub her leg and back). Personality okay. Looks okay. Body terrific. Rubbed my crotch after 4-5 drinks. Hinted she would make customer happy in the room if she likes him. (But I know that CS room starts with minimum $3 champagne.) Passed because ran out of money but might try next time just for the thrill of the chase.
I saw her sitting in front of the Silk Lady. Where is Silk Lady?
CheapCharlie
12-02-07, 05:04
Had a few hours to kill in Pearl City the other morning and stopped by the Princess Palace in search of Hana. Got BBBJ and HJ from earlier visits and I have to admit I like the GFE even though she is about 25 years my senior. Walked in and got a beer, but the place was empty. Was leaving the parking lot when I saw here sitting in front of the Silk Lady. Parked again and walked in. She didn't remember me from before, but we talked for about two minutes before she was in my pants. This woman was all over me! Whipped it out and got a BBBJ in the booth for a good 10 min. She asked if I like to eat pussy and if I wanted to return the favor. Told her I only wanted a BJ and only had $, couldn't we negotiate in the back room? Went to the back and she went to town. Just to see what I could get away with I stuck my finger in her ass while she was busy. She didn't mind for a bit, but I felt her tense up so I stopped. She hiked up her skirt and I DATY. She started asking me how long it took me to get back up if I came once. Then came the "I want your cock in my pussy" and she tried to jump on BB. Had to pull the reins in and slow it down a bit. Told her I wouldn't do it w/o a raincoat. "Don't worry baby, I'm clean", was her reply. I thought about the previous posts on this board and didn't do it, but damned if I didn't think twice about it. She finished me up and even gave me a massage afterwards. Total damage $. 2 with the obligatory drink. I miss the BJ from LH's Blendy. She wasn't the best looking, but she had some skill.
WOW 2X! First wow on your awesome post,second wow for getting it on with a lady thats probably old enough to be your mother! You said you went in the morning.By morning do you mean like around 8-10 a.m. or after 12(1-2 a.m.). I also miss Blendy aka Kyong,but not cause of her BJ skills;but her TIGHT hole!Be safe and again awesome post! CC
WOW 2X! First wow on your awesome post,second wow for getting it on with a lady thats probably old enough to be your mother! You said you went in the morning.By morning do you mean like around 8-10 a.m. or after 12(1-2 a.m.). I also miss Blendy aka Kyong,but not cause of her BJ skills;but her TIGHT hole!Be safe and again awesome post! CCThis was around 11 a.m. Only one other customer in the bar. Heard her sister was also in the business, but didn't see her there. In fact she said she owns the bar. I wish you didn't encourage me, now I might have to make another visit. She said she would give me her address and cell number on my next visit if I brought her a carton of Chesterfields. She's put together very well for a woman her age and I enjoyed every minute of sucking those huge titties.
Good luck!
Had a few hours to kill in Pearl City the other morning and stopped by the Princess Palace in search of Hana. Got BBBJ and HJ from earlier visits and I have to admit I like the GFE even though she is about 25 years my senior. Walked in and got a beer, but the place was empty. Was leaving the parking lot when I saw here sitting in front of the Silk Lady. Parked again and walked in. She didn't remember me from before, but we talked for about two minutes before she was in my pants. This woman was all over me! Whipped it out and got a BBBJ in the booth for a good 10 min. She asked if I like to eat pussy and if I wanted to return the favor. Told her I only wanted a BJ and only had $, couldn't we negotiate in the back room? Went to the back and she went to town. Just to see what I could get away with I stuck my finger in her ass while she was busy. She didn't mind for a bit, but I felt her tense up so I stopped. She hiked up her skirt and I DATY. She started asking me how long it took me to get back up if I came once. Then came the "I want your cock in my pussy" and she tried to jump on BB. Had to pull the reins in and slow it down a bit. Told her I wouldn't do it w/o a raincoat. "Don't worry baby, I'm clean", was her reply. I thought about the previous posts on this board and didn't do it, but damned if I didn't think twice about it. She finished me up and even gave me a massage afterwards. Total damage $. 2 with the obligatory drink. I miss the BJ from LH's Blendy. She wasn't the best looking, but she had some skill.
Wow, can't believe Hana is still around! She must be in her 60's now. You're right though; she's game for BB action, and I used to love those humongous tits!
Iliketowatch
12-03-07, 00:37
Started off at Camelot. Was pretty busy during the game. Left at half time and went to Napa. On the way swung by Yuri's. Heard it was her last night. Wasn't as full as the previous week. Only a few girls, although there was one new young hottie in a short skirt. Left Napa without a drink and went to finish the game at Tomorrow. Semi-full. Lots of old ladies there. Seems like every was at the game then decided to hit the bars later. What was up with all the cops near Business then at Sky? Must have had a fight or something. Oh, saw this really thin, tall (5'-10" ish) korean at camelot. Anyone knows who she is? How long has she been there? Player?
Started off at Camelot. Was pretty busy during the game. Left at half time and went to Napa. On the way swung by Yuri's. Heard it was her last night. Wasn't as full as the previous week. Only a few girls, although there was one new young hottie in a short skirt. Left Napa without a drink and went to finish the game at Tomorrow. Semi-full. Lots of old ladies there. Seems like every was at the game then decided to hit the bars later. What was up with all the cops near Business then at Sky? Must have had a fight or something. Oh, saw this really thin, tall (5'-10" ish) korean at camelot. Anyone knows who she is? How long has she been there? Player?Saw really cute, hot, young Viet at Camelot. But no real play. Went to Happiness after 10pm and there she was again. Immediately took me to dark back booth and behavior was night and day. Climbing all over me. Took off her top. Very nice pert fake B cups with nips that elongate with stimulation. Rubbed away at the crotch, ending with fabulous BBHJ, aided by irresistible baby oil. Said her name was Lin. Unfortunately, Happiness does not have room so play is limited to booth. Lowered her shorts to show off g-string. Allowed finger on clit. Real smooth skin all over. And real cute. Fab body. $-$$ depending YMMV.
Started off at Camelot. Was pretty busy during the game. Left at half time and went to Napa. On the way swung by Yuri's. Heard it was her last night. Wasn't as full as the previous week. Only a few girls, although there was one new young hottie in a short skirt. Left Napa without a drink and went to finish the game at Tomorrow. Semi-full. Lots of old ladies there. Seems like every was at the game then decided to hit the bars later. What was up with all the cops near Business then at Sky? Must have had a fight or something. Oh, saw this really thin, tall (5'-10" ish) korean at camelot. Anyone knows who she is? How long has she been there? Player?
She's a new girl that came with 2 others from LA, another tall one w/ med build and a short cutie that has a tattoo. They've been here since Thursday.
Lastnight I went to nappy's to meet my friend after work cause I think he like that girl yurl. Cute face with a little belly. But never really wanted to hangout at nappy so I want to camelot to check on sonia. Was busy at camelot cause of the game but no sonia "what the hell two saterday and no sonia. Someone taking the village bicycle for a ride again. " I don't see Amy too. So I went home.
Anyone know what happen to that girl name Sun that use to work at camelot longtime ago. She was skinney, tan, and had tattoos on the back of both knee. Use to drink red wine. Had one time after camelot we was drunk forgot were we went to eat. I was eating ribs with my finger and she grabs my hand and start sucking on my fingers. If I was not really drunk I would have wip out my tool.
Nice tan body with lots of play if you get her drunk.
Lastnight I went to nappy's to meet my friend after work cause I think he like that girl yurl. Cute face with a little belly. But never really wanted to hangout at nappy so I want to camelot to check on sonia. Was busy at camelot cause of the game but no sonia "what the hell two saterday and no sonia. Someone taking the village bicycle for a ride again. " I don't see Amy too. So I went home.
Anyone know what happen to that girl name Sun that use to work at camelot longtime ago. She was skinney, tan, and had tattoos on the back of both knee. Use to drink red wine. Had one time after camelot we was drunk forgot were we went to eat. I was eating ribs with my finger and she grabs my hand and start sucking on my fingers. If I was not really drunk I would have wip out my tool.Last I heard Sun was at Cheers Station. As for the village bicycle, she left @ halftime with an older haole customer in a KOA Taxi. Or it may have been a little later as my memory is a little blurry.
Where is Silk Lady?Don't know the name of the shopping center, but it's the two level one across from the Pearl City Long's next to the Chevron. As you drive down to the lower level parking it will be the first bar you see.
Iliketowatch
12-03-07, 16:25
Lastnight I went to nappy's to meet my friend after work cause I think he like that girl yurl. Cute face with a little belly. But never really wanted to hangout at nappy so I want to camelot to check on sonia. Was busy at camelot cause of the game but no sonia "what the hell two saterday and no sonia. Someone taking the village bicycle for a ride again. " I don't see Amy too. So I went home.
Anyone know what happen to that girl name Sun that use to work at camelot longtime ago. She was skinney, tan, and had tattoos on the back of both knee. Use to drink red wine. Had one time after camelot we was drunk forgot were we went to eat. I was eating ribs with my finger and she grabs my hand and start sucking on my fingers. If I was not really drunk I would have wip out my tool.
This was a while back. Maybe a year or so. After Camelot, Sun went to Mayas for a month or so. Then she was seen at Cheers. After that, who knows. I saw her about 8 months ago walking near Makaloa. Someone said she goes to the 24 hr. fitness on Kapiolani.
Captin Crunch
12-03-07, 18:36
Passed by LH and the place is HISTORY. If anyone knows where there is a
place where there is action, please report.
Moneyman69
12-04-07, 03:43
Passed by LH and the place is HISTORY. If anyone knows where there is a place where there is action, please report.Better off going to AMP. Less money plus you get a happy ending always!
Yesterday went to meet my friend at camelot on my brake time. Sonia was there but busy with some people. Chat with julia and forgot had Monday night football so my car was stuck in the parking lot so gave my keys to julia. So I met julia at don quijote afterwork. Never like ride with her. She had this crazy look like she wanted to do someting to me so I just told her I walk to camelot. Went to check out cheers. Had this tall chick hugging this old guy. She really tall and cute. Had one beer. Ask the bertender if she know sun. She don't know so I went home. " no Sun only rain lastnight."
Iliketowatch
12-04-07, 15:20
Hey guys. I hate to bring this up again, but with all the newbies around and my conversation with a guy last night at Club Business, I thought a refresher course wouldn't hurt. Sat with a guy whose been mongering for about a year now. Had his heart broken 2 times in the last year. Had his wallet broken more times than I have hairs on my head. Bars girls are all in it for the money!!! They lie, they cheat, they will play with your hearts. Now, I've had a few gf's in the past. But these relationships were nothing like a normal real worldl girl's relationship would be. It was based on money. Yeah you get sex, but if she does something for you, it doesn't come from her heart, it comes from her wallet. She will buy you things to show her caring. I said caring, not love. Being in bar bus., hardens these gals. They will not show you true love. The key to me having a gf, I never went for the hottie. Always the homely one. Whenever my gf would have her hottie friends over at my apartment, I would hear the way these girls talk. Most of the time in Korean, but my gf would usually translate for me. To put it simply, if you are hot (and they know they are . . . lookswise), you only want to be with other hot people. Why would you want to settle for anything less (they say this constantly when talking about their customers). I guess maybe for money. Look at us guys, we want the hottie too, even if we are not. Well speaking for myself. But looking around the bars, 99% of the guys there are not Brad Pitt and yet they all want the hottie. If you don't want the plain jane, why would the hottie want you? Money! I'm not saying I know it all, this is just for you to read and make your own decision on the information given. It just breaks my heart when I hear these stories from really nice guys about how they were taken. Ever notice the better looking guys in the bars not sitting with any girls. It's because they can get a hottie who doesn't work in a bar. That must tell you something.
Any one know where jade for my place near dinner's is working heard she quit there its super dead two old ugly ladies working. Jade is in her 40's slim short and short hair.
I think they did or I got the name wrong. never did go to the two bar.I always go to camelot in the afternoon to check on Julia the bartender I thought she was hot at that time." But I got someone better."
Ted...You were correct, Moonflower did reopen.
The key to me having a gf, I never went for the hottie. Always the homely one. Whenever my gf would have her hottie friends over at my apartment, I would hear the way these girls talk. Most of the time in Korean, but my gf would usually translate for me. To put it simply, if you are hot (and they know they are . . . lookswise), you only want to be with other hot people. Why would you want to settle for anything less (they say this constantly when talking about their customers). I guess maybe for money. Look at us guys, we want the hottie too, even if we are not. Well speaking for myself. But looking around the bars, 99% of the guys there are not Brad Pitt and yet they all want the hottie. If you don't want the plain jane, why would the hottie want you? Money! I'm not saying I know it all, this is just for you to read and make your own decision on the information given. Not sure I agree fully with you. Agree with the money part. They all play you for the money. But some of them give a little extra if they like you personally. But they're still going to get their $$$. On the other hand, even us guys don't always chase after the best looking hottie. Must be some reason why so many of you are interested in Sonya at Camelot. There are definitely many more good lookers there than her.
It just breaks my heart when I hear these stories from really nice guys about how they were taken. Ever notice the better looking guys in the bars not sitting with any girls. It's because they can get a hottie who doesn't work in a bar. That must tell you something.
If a guy has gone through that grinder more than once, I don't feel sorry for him. Not much. Just means he's a slow learner.
Also, that's just one side of the story. A lot of guys, even the good-looking ones, work on bargirls because they lack sufficient social skills to work on "civilians". I have known of more than a few very abusive and dysfunctional bar relationships.
If you can just keep one thing in your head, remember that these women are in the bar to make money. Not all lie and cheat. On the other hand, does the fat, bald-headed 40-something dude who has never been married or in a LTR really want to hear the truth about himself? I thought not.
The best of the women are in the bar to make money. The ones worth knowing do this so they can maintain their independence. If you want to attract one of these, you gotta demonstrate the "value add". In short, if you can make it worth her while to quit the bar scene, you have a shot. If she keeps working in the bar, you don't have a snowball's chance.
I personally know of several marriages that came out of the bar. The key is that they *came* *out* of the bar. Most of the fellows are older and well-off. They provided the women a decent house and a settled life. The women quit the bar world and live the white picket fence life. The men don't go the the bars anymore.
Iliketowatch
12-05-07, 02:27
Also, that's just one side of the story. A lot of guys, even the good-looking ones, work on bargirls because they lack sufficient social skills to work on "civilians". I have known of more than a few very abusive and dysfunctional bar relationships.
Good side of the story. Maybe that's why I'm there too! No, not because I'm good looking, because my real life relationship skills are horrible. But call me a softy, I still feel for these guys. Especially when they are nice guys, just socially-lacking.
On the other hand, even us guys don't always chase after the best looking hottie. Must be some reason why so many of you are interested in Sonya at Camelot. There are definitely many more good lookers there than her.It's because she the best looking nerd in Camelot with her glasses. nah just joking. she is hot in some ways.
Went to Happiness after 10pm and there she was again. Where is Club Happiness located?
Thanks.
Very popular as there are quite a bit of hotties there. Gigi, Jay, Yujin, Nikki, Momi, Mimi ...I dropped into Club Camelot last week on a weekday and it was pretty active, and many new/relocated girls. Glad to see some remodeling of the facilities. I believe I recall Yujin from Club Casino. She's quite stunning. Has anyone had success with play from her?
A couple of the hostesses at Club Hollywood were carted off last night, around 11:30. Several blue and whites and private vehicles littered the parking lot. Did not see any punters in the haul.
I didn't think CH had any serious play. Most of the tables are out in the open, although I've recently seen the giveaway potted-plant-wall-extender cluster of tables just inside the door.
Night Colors
12-05-07, 22:24
Where is Club Happiness located?
Thanks.
On Ala Moana Blvd. It's Vietnamese run, not Korean. Very slow when I went there - pretty boring.
On Ala Moana Blvd. It's Vietnamese run, not Korean. Very slow when I went there - pretty boring.Guess I was just lucky. The bar girl leaves Camelot at 10pm and goes to Happiness for the rest of the evening. She said she doesn't do extreme play at Camelot, but at Happiness, it's all about the sex.
Iliketowatch
12-06-07, 16:20
Went to Mayas last night. It was packed early on. All the old Maya girls are back with a few of Yuri's girls there too. Had to sit in the back corner so I could see the action to clearly. Seems like the old Maya customers were also back on the bar. Tried to sit with Amanda but she was busy. Sat with her at Moonflower. She had a boob job which doesn't really turn me on but she will let me squeeze it secretly when I put my arm around her back and reach around. Didn't see her psycho asian regular customer. He's the guy with the cut off sleeves making like he a macho body builder. Is he her boyfriend?
Humpmeehard
12-06-07, 21:56
Went to Mayas last night. It was packed early on. All the old Maya girls are back with a few of Yuri's girls there too. Had to sit in the back corner so I could see the action to clearly. Seems like the old Maya customers were also back on the bar. Tried to sit with Amanda but she was busy. Sat with her at Moonflower. She had a boob job which doesn't really turn me on but she will let me squeeze it secretly when I put my arm around her back and reach around. Didn't see her psycho asian regular customer. He's the guy with the cut off sleeves making like he a macho body builder. Is he her boyfriend?Wanna be bf!
Went to Mayas last night. It was packed early on. All the old Maya girls are back with a few of Yuri's girls there too. Had to sit in the back corner so I could see the action to clearly. Seems like the old Maya customers were also back on the bar. Tried to sit with Amanda but she was busy. Sat with her at Moonflower. She had a boob job which doesn't really turn me on but she will let me squeeze it secretly when I put my arm around her back and reach around. Didn't see her psycho asian regular customer. He's the guy with the cut off sleeves making like he a macho body builder. Is he her boyfriend?
The tan guy with bleached hair that is slicked back?
Iliketowatch
12-07-07, 03:19
The tan guy with bleached hair that is slicked back?
No, dark black hair, kinda slick back, short, maybe 5'-4"ish, normal local asian skin color, not a beach surfer tan. Drinks bud light, and is an a** when he sits on the bar. Thinks he owns the bar and the bartenders. Sometimes comes with biker stretch pants.
No, dark black hair, kinda slick back, short, maybe 5'-4"ish, normal local asian skin color, not a beach surfer tan. Drinks bud light, and is an a** when he sits on the bar. Thinks he owns the bar and the bartenders. Sometimes comes with biker stretch pants.
tats and wears sunglasses?
tats and wears sunglasses?So why are we talking about a guy?
Peckerwood
12-07-07, 11:28
Anyone see Sunny working anywhere? I didn't see her before the LH closing and she has changed her phone number. I remember her saying that she would be working in the Kalihi area. Any info appreciated.
PW
Iliketowatch
12-07-07, 15:59
tats and wears sunglasses?
No. Kinda regular looking local asian.
Went to Mayas last night. It was packed early on. All the old Maya girls are back with a few of Yuri's girls there too. Had to sit in the back corner so I could see the action to clearly. Seems like the old Maya customers were also back on the bar. Tried to sit with Amanda but she was busy. Sat with her at Moonflower. She had a boob job which doesn't really turn me on but she will let me squeeze it secretly when I put my arm around her back and reach around. Didn't see her psycho asian regular customer. He's the guy with the cut off sleeves making like he a macho body builder. Is he her boyfriend?Amanda was always busy. even when I use to go to star palace. I thought her and jade was hot back then. what happen to jade anyways last time I saw her I was at foodland and saw her with this black dude. and were is debbie from touchdown?
Amanda was always busy. even when I use to go to star palace. I thought her and jade was hot back then. what happen to jade anyways last time I saw her I was at foodland and saw her with this black dude. and were is debbie from touchdown?Speaking of "Yuri's back to Maya", anyone notice early in the week night time bartender going by the name HK? Older (40s) but pretty cute and a nice rack that she shows off real well. She was bartender at Tomorrow and daytime bartender at New Casino. Got great views of her tits behind the bar, and after her shift she did a good HJ in the booth and allowed lots of boob play. Is she still at Maya after the change back? And bartenders can be less expensive, especially during their shifts, if the bar is crowded.
Speaking of "Yuri's back to Maya", anyone notice early in the week night time bartender going by the name HK? Older (40s) but pretty cute and a nice rack that she shows off real well. She was bartender at Tomorrow and daytime bartender at New Casino. Got great views of her tits behind the bar, and after her shift she did a good HJ in the booth and allowed lots of boob play. Is she still at Maya after the change back? And bartenders can be less expensive, especially during their shifts, if the bar is crowded.HK has left the building. She is not working anyplace right now.
Met my friend at Princes Palace the other night and saw the bartender I never seen before. She looks like she is mix. Sorry never got her name cause alot of haole customer was talking with her. Any one know whos that?
Thumperforq
12-14-07, 14:20
Met my friend at Princes Palace the other night and saw the bartender I never seen before. She looks like she is mix. Sorry never got her name cause alot of haole customer was talking with her. Any one know whos that?
That's Momi. She used to be a dancer at Electros and is Sophie's (Owner of Exotic Nites) daughter-in-law.
She's not dancing at Electro's anymore?
Thumperforq
12-14-07, 23:43
She's not dancing at Electro's anymore?
No. She stopped dancing late last year. She doesn't feel comfortable dancing in front of people or being a hostess (doesn't like to approach customers). She did it when she needed to make money. Now that she's financially comfortable, she'd rather work as a bartender or as a manager.
Can anyone report on girls at Vegas II? Was there on Wed. when they had a ticket party and saw lots of hot lookers. But mostly loud singing. Sat with Chanel2 - youngish 30s, cute, large boobs, nipples showing thru, and real "friendly". Played even in the open. But got expensive real fast without substantial progress. So left high and dry. Do any of the other girls play?
Forever Young
12-21-07, 02:19
Went to Camelot yesterday. after when I was feeling all good I just found out it was ticket night. I was piss now because no girls told me about it. had some cute girls. I think the bartender Faith has a cute face. if she was sucking my weener and looking at me that be my best Christmas gift for this year.
Baby Taboongau
12-22-07, 05:06
Went to Vegas II in the afternoon and saw Jackie that use to work at Nappys. I should had waited till night time but needed a beer. maybe I go Saturday night.
Brett Pounder
12-23-07, 00:54
Went to Camelot yesterday. after when I was feeling all good I just found out it was ticket night. I was piss now because no girls told me about it. had some cute girls. I think the bartender Faith has a cute face. if she was sucking my weener and looking at me that be my best Christmas gift for this year.What's ticket nite? theme nite?
Thanks, BP
Went to Camelot yesterday. after when I was feeling all good I just found out it was ticket night. I was piss now because no girls told me about it. had some cute girls. I think the bartender Faith has a cute face. if she was sucking my weener and looking at me that be my best Christmas gift for this year.
What is ticket night?
Ticket night = All you can eat/drink for $25 until midnight
Forever Young
12-23-07, 06:42
Ticket night = All you can eat/drink for $25 until midnightSomeone told me today that they going to have another ticket night before New Year. all I know is my girl better give me a ticket or I'll dump her frickin colgate ass.
Did Tomorrow got raid this past Thrisday?
Brett Pounder
12-23-07, 14:18
Ticket night = All you can eat/drink for $25 until midnightI bet the place gets packed. Sounds like a good deal for $25.
Ticket night = All you can eat/drink for $25 until midnightTalk to your Fav. hostesses @ Camelot. There will be another Ticket Nite for New Years too.
Thumperforq
12-23-07, 17:53
Talk to your Fav. hostesses @ Camelot. There will be another Ticket Nite for New Years too.
You shouldn't let that get around too much. All you can drink for $25 is illegal according to liquor commission rules. All you can eat is ok.
You shouldn't let that get around too much. All you can drink for $25 is illegal according to liquor commission rules. All you can eat is ok.Correct. The ticket night at Vegas II was $10 for all you can eat. Customers pay for their own drinks. Of course if you have a regular girl you spend money on, she should be buying the drinks for you anyway.
Kbarlurker
12-24-07, 02:36
Long haired Yong at eclipse will give HJ and bjtcim in back booth nice, shaved, rubs juices on your head, very good conversation.
Talk to your Fav. hostesses @ Camelot. There will be another Ticket Nite for New Years too.Usually the girl buys the tickets for the customers so guess you should spend at least that amount on her for the ticket. But then I think they may not have to spend $25 for the ticket but they do have to spend something for it.
Went by several KBs tonight: D'Amour, Sky Lounge, Romantei, Sandy & Jens, Mayas. Every place real slow. Sky didn't have any girls-only busty bartender. D'Amour had a few girls but they seemed to be sitting with the handful of customers there. Heard about breakins at Fire and Ice, CK, and Vegas II last week, decided to try MPs and KBs with safer parking arrangements. Ended up at MP Excel. See my report on that forum. Because of the slow season this might be the time to get some cheap play at KB.
Hi Guys,
I'm a regular with the MPs, but I want to give the KBs a try.
Sometimes I just want to have a drink and relax in a place with some nice eye candy. So tell me. Is it acceptable to visit a KB and just drink without a woman? I would like to go and check things out and see what's there before buying drinks right away. Is it better to sit at the bar in that case?
I have no problem buying drinks and enjoying time with company, but I like to look around before. See how the different ladies treat the men first. Would it be ok to just have a couple beers and leave without having anyone join me?
Thanks,
HawaiiJoe
Hi Guys,
I'm a regular with the MPs, but I want to give the KBs a try.
Sometimes I just want to have a drink and relax in a place with some nice eye candy. So tell me. Is it acceptable to visit a KB and just drink without a woman? I would like to go and check things out and see what's there before buying drinks right away. Is it better to sit at the bar in that case?
I have no problem buying drinks and enjoying time with company, but I like to look around before. See how the different ladies treat the men first. Would it be ok to just have a couple beers and leave without having anyone join me?
Thanks,
HawaiiJoe
HJ,
It's okay to sit at the bar and have a few to check out the environment. Just politely decline any invitation to have someone sit with you at the bar. I've done the same at some bars before having company. Remember, you're the customer and in control in a bar.
Happy Holidays!
PD
Baby Taboongau
12-26-07, 02:51
Hi Guys,
I'm a regular with the MPs, but I want to give the KBs a try.
Sometimes I just want to have a drink and relax in a place with some nice eye candy. So tell me. Is it acceptable to visit a KB and just drink without a woman? I would like to go and check things out and see what's there before buying drinks right away. Is it better to sit at the bar in that case?
I have no problem buying drinks and enjoying time with company, but I like to look around before. See how the different ladies treat the men first. Would it be ok to just have a couple beers and leave without having anyone join me?
Thanks,
HawaiiJoeI think it's better to sit at the bar on your first time. that way you got to see what girls you like to sit with next time you go at that bar. Have one or two beer and then go to the next bar to see what kind girl they have.
Brothers,
I have a question. Is it alright if a "provider" keeps calling your cell phone?
The last time I seen Sunny, she asked me to come down to her new place of employment.
I havent been to LH since their closing. So I went down to see Sunny, ended up buying her 2 drinks and HJ/BBBJTCIM. She told me, I miss your chagi, your chagi still big, next time, we go get one hotel room, or go back to her place.
Since then, she's called me 2x. Im asking the OGs for some suggestions. Scoff, laugh, diss, tease, mock all you want, I still aint got no complaints in RL with the SO.
My question is, why is she callin me still.
Regardless, hope you guys all had a better Xmas than I did.
Check out my report on MPs..
Hinode :cool:
So how much would it all come out to at the end of the night at Korean bars? I've been reading stuff about it for some time and LH seems like the place to go. I know I buy her a couple of drinks in the beginning, but do I tip her in the end; and if I do, how much?
Captin Crunch
12-26-07, 16:25
Brothers,
I have a question. Is it alright if a "provider" keeps calling your cell phone?
The last time I seen Sunny, she asked me to come down to her new place of employment.
I havent been to LH since their closing. So I went down to see Sunny, ended up buying her 2 drinks and HJ/BBBJTCIM. She told me, I miss your chagi, your chagi still big, next time, we go get one hotel room, or go back to her place.
Since then, she's called me 2x. Im asking the OGs for some suggestions. Scoff, laugh, diss, tease, mock all you want, I still aint got no complaints in RL with the SO.
My question is, why is she callin me still.
Regardless, hope you guys all had a better Xmas than I did.
Check out my report on MPs..
Hinode :cool:So where is she working now?
Crouchingtiger
12-26-07, 19:11
Hi Guys,
I'm a regular with the MPs, but I want to give the KBs a try.
Sometimes I just want to have a drink and relax in a place with some nice eye candy. So tell me. Is it acceptable to visit a KB and just drink without a woman? I would like to go and check things out and see what's there before buying drinks right away. Is it better to sit at the bar in that case?
I have no problem buying drinks and enjoying time with company, but I like to look around before. See how the different ladies treat the men first. Would it be ok to just have a couple beers and leave without having anyone join me?
Thanks,
HawaiiJoeI would always sit at the bar to check out the action. If you sit in a booth they will always come and ask if you want company. If they come to me at the bar and I am not interested, I would either say either maybe later or maybe next time (all depending if I wanted to play).
Like to see which ones are hot and which ones are gold diggers, I realize they are trying to make money, but there are those that are nice and don't try to make you buy so many drinks as long as you understand when they leave to sit with another customer for awhile.
Crouchingtiger
12-26-07, 19:24
Brothers,
I have a question. Is it alright if a "provider" keeps calling your cell phone?
The last time I seen Sunny, she asked me to come down to her new place of employment.
I havent been to LH since their closing. So I went down to see Sunny, ended up buying her 2 drinks and HJ/BBBJTCIM. She told me, I miss your chagi, your chagi still big, next time, we go get one hotel room, or go back to her place.
Since then, she's called me 2x. Im asking the OGs for some suggestions. Scoff, laugh, diss, tease, mock all you want, I still aint got no complaints in RL with the SO.
My question is, why is she callin me still.
Regardless, hope you guys all had a better Xmas than I did.
Check out my report on MPs..
Hinode :cool:She miss your chagi-haha. Which bar does she work, I'll take her off your hands with my small chagi-hahaha. I know I'm not an old guard, but for what it is worth she is probably comfortable with you and likes doing you. It happens when you give girls your number. I have a few that call me, they want me to come down to the club or amp. I gotten some where we go to their place or a hotel. What I like about that is that no need worry about LE or being rushed. Usually stay with the girl all night. This will allow me to do the girl maybe 2-3 times, go sleep, wake up and do her 1-2 more time in the morning before leaving. I will end up tipping the girl anywhere from $$$$-$$$$$, but I think its worth it considering the time and amount of times I end up popping.
Hi Guys,
I'm a regular with the MPs, but I want to give the KBs a try.
Sometimes I just want to have a drink and relax in a place with some nice eye candy. So tell me. Is it acceptable to visit a KB and just drink without a woman? I would like to go and check things out and see what's there before buying drinks right away. Is it better to sit at the bar in that case?
I have no problem buying drinks and enjoying time with company, but I like to look around before. See how the different ladies treat the men first. Would it be ok to just have a couple beers and leave without having anyone join me?
Thanks,
HawaiiJoeActually when I go into new kb's or kb's that I haven't been into awhile I just sit at the bar and check out the whole experience. Good to watch the girls, you can usually tell the hustlers because they are the ones that keep going up for drinks every few minutes. Better to stay away from them as you end up spending some bucks (and who knows what you get for it). Beware as the waiter could be bringing drinks for the girl so just because you don't see her come up to the bar doesn't mean she isn't soaking the guy. If a girl or girls come up to solicit you, you can just say that you are taking it easy for now. I usually just check out the place first to see if it is worth spending money on a girl, sometimes you can see the mama trying to hustle the girls to get more drinks from the customer, or sometimes you can see the mama or bartender padding the "tab" that a customer has. If you ever open up a tab, keep track of your drinks and her drinks as they sometimes try to add on a few drinks extra to make more from you.
So how much would it all come out to at the end of the night at Korean bars? I've been reading stuff about it for some time and LH seems like the place to go. I know I buy her a couple of drinks in the beginning, but do I tip her in the end; and if I do, how much?LH is closed, but from what I've read, you're going to want to have maybe $$ or $$$
Anyone have anything to report on Mayas since she took it back from Yuri? Drove by there couple days ago and it seemed pretty dead.
I would always sit at the bar to check out the action. If you sit in a booth they will always come and ask if you want company. If they come to me at the bar and I am not interested, I would either say either maybe later or maybe next time (all depending if I wanted to play).
Like to see which ones are hot and which ones are gold diggers, I realize they are trying to make money, but there are those that are nice and don't try to make you buy so many drinks as long as you understand when they leave to sit with another customer for awhile.
Agree with Tiger there. I like sitting at the bar next to the ordering station because you might be able to see all of the girls that work there when they come up to order the drinks for their customers or themselves. Not only that, you can see which ones consistently come back and forth for more drinks and are "money hunnies". Of course, there are some that rely on other girls to get up and get the drinks, but sooner or later, most will be up there. If you see something you like, you can strike up a conversation right there.
Edward King
12-27-07, 06:50
If you ever open up a tab, keep track of your drinks and her drinks as they sometimes try to add on a few drinks extra to make more from you.Unless you're a regular, and if not, ready to drop upwards of $1K, don't ever open a tab. You will not keep track of the drinks, the girls will take full advantage of this, and by the time they roll you out of there drunk, you won't remember anything. Trust me, been there, seen that.
Forever Young
12-27-07, 07:02
It happens when you give girls your number. I have a few that call me, they want me to come down to the club or amp. I gotten some where we go to their place or a hotel. What I like about that is that no need worry about LE or being rushed. Usually stay with the girl all night. This will allow me to do the girl maybe 2-3 times, go sleep, wake up and do her 1-2 more time in the morning before leaving. I will end up tipping the girl anywhere from $$$$-$$$$$, but I think its worth it considering the time and amount of times I end up popping.Thats good if you having sex with'um but some of those girl are fricking wack out crazy!
Two years ago my friend bang this bar girl and after that he never like nutting to do with her. When he was sleeping at this other girls house she slash his car tires.
Now my other friend just met that new girl that works at [Name deleted at author's request] and bang her and he told me she is psycho. So this Christmas Eve we went there and she threatened to kill him if he see another girl. "I think she was kind of cute" As for the girl I'm seeing? Walkout on her. Don't need no dramas or she should have shaven her bush then I would have DATY. Well she took a pee and never wipe. Ewwwwwwwwwwww! Thats so gross.
If I am not mistakn isn't also illegal to open a tab? Please let me know. Finally if you open a tab and you feel it i wrong you have noobligation to pay.
Unless you're a regular, and if not, ready to drop upwards of $1K, don't ever open a tab. You will not keep track of the drinks, the girls will take full advantage of this, and by the time they roll you out of there drunk, you won't remember anything. Trust me, been there, seen that.
HK has left the building. She is not working anyplace right now.HK has reappeared. She is at Club D'Amour, bartending.
Crouchingtiger
12-27-07, 19:36
Thats good if you having sex with'um but some of those girl are fricking wack out crazy!
Two years ago my friend bang this bar girl and after that he never like nutting to do with her. When he was sleeping at this other girls house she slash his car tires.
Now my other friend just met that new girl that works at Maya's and bang her and he told me she is psycho. So this Christmas Eve we went there and she threatened to kill him if he see another girl. "I think she was kind of cute" As for the girl I'm seeing? Walkout on her. Don't need no dramas or she should have shaven her bush then I would have DATY. Well she took a pee and never wipe. Ewwwwwwwwwwww! Thats so gross.Just gotta be careful who you chose. Never take them to my own home, and never give them my home phone, never promise them anything. Its about getting it on my own terms. I don't want a KB, amp or SC gf. Want the experience of it, but w/o the attachments and drama. At any rate just gotta watch who you choose, don't let jr. get in the way, that's how we get in trouble-haha!
My question is, why is she callin me still.
Most likely it's because you've spent some money in the past, and she hopes you may spend money again in the future. Perhaps the calls could be viewed as thinly disguised "sales calls." :)
On the other hand, maybe she really does miss the "big chagi." :D
LH is closed, but from what I've read, you're going to want to have maybe $$ or $$$
LH closed? I haven't been down that side for a couple weeks. So where did Choi and Sunny go
Actually when I go into new kb's or kb's that I haven't been into awhile I just sit at the bar and check out the whole experience. Good to watch the girls, you can usually tell the hustlers because they are the ones that keep going up for drinks every few minutes. Better to stay away from them as you end up spending some bucks (and who knows what you get for it). Beware as the waiter could be bringing drinks for the girl so just because you don't see her come up to the bar doesn't mean she isn't soaking the guy. If a girl or girls come up to solicit you, you can just say that you are taking it easy for now. I usually just check out the place first to see if it is worth spending money on a girl, sometimes you can see the mama trying to hustle the girls to get more drinks from the customer, or sometimes you can see the mama or bartender padding the "tab" that a customer has. If you ever open up a tab, keep track of your drinks and her drinks as they sometimes try to add on a few drinks extra to make more from you.I agree with you on that 69, it sucks to come up short at the end of the night than you originally planned. If you buy a girl a drink and she takes one sip then says i be right back, then she probably has another customer or more, so with that said don't waste your time competing with the other guy. Look for the ones that dont have a customer already those are easy getters and cost a lot less.
Iliketowatch
12-28-07, 14:00
[QUOTE=Pendoko]Now my other friend just met that new girl that works at Maya's and bang her and he told me she is psycho.
Wow your friend works fast! My buddy bought Yong (is that her?, from LA) a couple of drinks in hopes of getting in her pants. Good to hear upfront that she a whacko. In all fairness to the girls, and I've said this before, the Korean culture is very different. Once you have sex, they plan on marriage. Casual sex is rare. In the olden days of the kb's, the women were "forced" to engage in sexual activities to make money. They came from Korea, poor, no skills and needed money fast. This is all they could offer, their bodies. Nowadays the young ones come from families that are better off, they watch MTV, they are wannabees of the Western culture, so they are less desperate to make cash. Oh, they want money, but it is not life and death as it was in the past. It's just spending money. That's why hooking up is always a risk. There's no scorn like a women's scorn. And there's no scorn like a Korean women's scorn. 1st your tires, and then your chaji. Stay safe guys.
If I am not mistakn isn't also illegal to open a tab? Please let me know. Finally if you open a tab and you feel it i wrong you have noobligation to pay.
It's not illegal. Do you pay for your dinner up front?
To the extent that "girl's drinks" are illegal, they won't call the cops on you. You will be known as the cheapskate though. Rest assured you will not have their goodwill thereafter. The end result will vary.
Rule of thumb: Don't be a jerk and even bar girls won't rip you off.
Be a donkey and you will be treated like one. If the girl is pushing you tell her straight out, "no". If she persists, leave. There are hundreds of bars in this town.
My question is, why is she callin me still.
I've read your posts. You're an OG. I believe you already know the answer.
You are the customer. You are the source of her income. This is what she does for a living. Based on past posts, she probably also feels comfortable with you. Since she is in a new place, she's calling on her regulars. They all do this.
Sometimes I just want to have a drink and relax in a place with some nice eye candy. So tell me. Is it acceptable to visit a KB and just drink without a woman? I would like to go and check things out and see what's there before buying drinks right away. Is it better to sit at the bar in that case?
I have no problem buying drinks and enjoying time with company, but I like to look around before. See how the different ladies treat the men first. Would it be ok to just have a couple beers and leave without having anyone join me?
Sure. In fact if you ask any "bar-dori" (KB slang for mongers), this is a basic tactic. Keep it on the DL and you can find out the rhythm of the place and whether it's even worth the hassle. Don't just watch the girls, though. Check your competition's tactics. When you have the luxury of detachment, you will be amazed at how easy it is to spot the other guy's mistakes. You can hear the lines that will just make you cringe. Scratch that one off your list.
The KB scene is not brain surgery. I once read a weight loss tip that translates to this scenario. Don't go grocery shopping while you are hungry. Translated: Don't go to a KB horny and/or desperate.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=Pendoko]Now my other friend just met that new girl that works at Maya's and bang her and he told me she is psycho.
Wow your friend works fast! My buddy bought Yong (is that her?, from LA) a couple of drinks in hopes of getting in her pants. Good to hear upfront that she a whacko. ... Was it Yong? Just wondering because she lives with mama. So it would be unusual for her to be allowed to go out with a customer after hours. Just my observation of new girls that have lived with the mama.
I agree with you on that 69, it sucks to come up short at the end of the night than you originally planned. If you buy a girl a drink and she takes one sip then says i be right back, then she probably has another customer or more, so with that said don't waste your time competing with the other guy. Look for the ones that dont have a customer already those are easy getters and cost a lot less.You learn from experience. Actually, if you watch the girl and the customer she was with doesn't leave his booth then she is probably taking a break and will go back to him if she can't find another customer. If you don't seem like someone who will spend a lot on the girl she will drink fast and ask for another, if you say no she will be back with the first guy in a flash.
For me, if she leaves a customer and he doesn't leave and she comes up to me, I will decline and see what she does. She will probably go looking for another sucker before going back to the original customer to take his money if she can't find another customer.
Edward King, I usually will open a tab if I want to go to the room with a girl and/or if I don't have the funds to pay in cash. I make sure that I don't get drunk (but will try to get the girl to do the drinking) so I make sure that I am only charged for what I spent. I have had instances where there were extra charges on my bill, once a girl tried to bring in another girl, the other girl brought in her drink with her but I sent her away. Later I saw the extra charge on my bill. I told the girl I was with that I would only pay for the drinks that I agreed upon. I didn't give my charge card until she changed the bill and then I followed her out to make sure they only charged what was agreed on.
A few times I heard from a girl that a customer reversed the charges so if you ever have a problem you could just reverse the charges. Other times I saw a customer talking to the mama about his bill and they corrected it.
IMHO, if you are going to be with a girl, don't get drunk, you probably won't remember a lot of what happenned so why waste your money. Also beware of the alcohol free champagne the girl may try to have the waiter bring in, always check the bottle to make sure it is real, why pay $$$ for non alcoholic stuff.
Edward King
12-29-07, 07:00
If I am not mistakn isn't also illegal to open a tab? Please let me know. Finally if you open a tab and you feel it i wrong you have noobligation to pay.It's not illegal - maybe it should be, considering the rate at which the charges pile up - and you do have to pay. Stay away. Cash only.
Howz'it Guys!
This is my first post. I stumbled upon this forum as I was doing a search. Anyway, have been out of the game for a while (2 years), just started going out again about a month ago. Seems very slow now. Can anyone give me the 411 on Casino, Business, Mayas and Camelot? And recommend any girls to sit with. Seems like these are the more popular places. I usually go to seek good company and entertainment, not primarily for sex, of course if she wants I will not refuse. I like to sit with someone who is not to pushy with the drinks, easy to talk too, of course gotta be decent looking (I know I know everyone is looking for this). I don't mind paying for. 20 glasses of tea if she is as described and seems sincere. Yes I know they are there to make money and that guys will have different experiences with the same girl, but any 411 will be good. Tired of dishing out bait and having to cut the line even though thats part of the experience. Put it this way, I want to read the Cliff Notes before I read the Book.
Anyway, hope you all have a Safe and Inexpensive New Year.
Have you RTFF yet? Doesn't sound like it. There is already a lot of info already available to you.
just started going out again about a month ago.
Welcome to the forum. Here's a helpful suggestion -- if you resumed going to bars "about a month ago," you probably have some names, descriptions, good and bad experiences, and other useful information to share. Currently you only have one post, asking other members for their information. The more information you've posted yourself, the more likely it will become that other members will take their time to share information with you.
TwistedBrother
12-31-07, 14:08
Howz'it Guys!
Put it this way, I want to read the Cliff Notes before I read the Book.
Looking at the other two responses to this, I would add that while I understand this desire of yours, the whole point of this forum is that it IS a "book" and one that everyone here has taken pains in writing. I guess it would be nice and convenient if every board for every city was condensed into a quickie guide that was like Cliff Notes, but it just doesn't work that way. And no one really wants to give you a cliff notes when they've all written chapters to the book.
So you should really read the forum, like at least a few months worth. Trust me, if you're like 95 percent of us, you'll be glad you did. THEN if there's something specific missing that it's reasonable to think someone would know, THEN ask questions.
That's how I started out
Looking at the other two responses to this, I would add that while I understand this desire of yours, the whole point of this forum is that it IS a "book" and one that everyone here has taken pains in writing. I guess it would be nice and convenient if every board for every city was condensed into a quickie guide that was like Cliff Notes, but it just doesn't work that way. And no one really wants to give you a cliff notes when they've all written chapters to the book.
So you should really read the forum, like at least a few months worth. Trust me, if you're like 95 percent of us, you'll be glad you did. THEN if there's something specific missing that it's reasonable to think someone would know, THEN ask questions.
That's how I started outVery good points
I always before these boards was left to past experiences, intuition, and sometimes what other friends rec. about.
Like gambling, hit & miss
sometimes you can go on a roll, and YMMV during certain times over the years.
NO, it will not be like it was in the late 70s, the wild wild west 80s, the post Marsland 90s, to the early 2000s on kukui, till the present.
Dang, you could get some damn good T&A, but again, the services vary on what the ladies are willing for the all mighty kala$
As it goes, those were the days
It is more if you find a good provider, you get the cell if possible(w/o her taking you as a SO or sugar dad), and become a good reg.
They are out there, just much harder to find.
Angela, Jade, Pinky, Jun had some great times. I hook up w/Angela when our schedules permit, and have a GREAt time, again IMHO YMMV.
Patience, being cool, get to know them if they let u, and IMHO you gotta be a good tipper. If you play chang(no diss to the chinese, as I am 1/8 chinese)
you get what you play for and they really do remember, they really do.
Enjoy your times,
Hauoli Makahiki Hou
k
Forever Young
01-01-08, 16:08
My friend wanted to go Camelot because it was ticket night. never seen nutting nice and my friend was killing the mood cause [Name deleted by author's request] was sucking him dry. went to [Name deleted by author's request] after. I seen the bartender that use to work a [Name deleted by author's request] "I think her name was [Name deleted by author's request]". went to [Name deleted by author's request] after that cause my friend wanted to see his so call "psycho girlfriend" no its not [Name deleted by author's request]. [Name deleted by author's request] is more pretty so the so call psycho is [Name deleted by author's request] or something. I think her cousin is better looking. any body know anything about that girl lana the young one? so I was going call it a night and was walking to my car found out I lost my keys. so my pussy whope friend wanted to check [Name deleted by author's request] and I check the other bars. So as I was walking to [Name deleted by author's request] saw [Name deleted by author's request] setting smoking and this old man with glasses watching her like a predetor " what a perv" and then follow her in like a kid and his mom. "I guess the old man going have some pussy on new years" I think thats the most funny thing I seen all night. it remind me of my friend and his psycho girlfriend.
Have you RTFF yet? Doesn't sound like it. There is already a lot of info already available to you.Thank you Head Lock, Kapalua, Makana and Twisted, for your comments. And yes I did read "all" the other posts. But it goes back more than two years and mostly talks about bars in Kalihi (which I have no problem with just not my cup of tea). Also, was hoping to see more recent info.
My recent experiences have been at Casino, sat with Anna and Bobbie. Only sat with them for a little while, as they seemed busy. I think Bobbie is new and Anna has been there for a year maybe. Both seemed nice but did not have the chance to find out how sincere they are. May have to go back again. Went to Maya's a couple of times but didn't sit with anyone had some older girls that were pretty, but didn't want to take the chance with anyone as the older ones tend to be more professional. In my past experiences, the newer ones were better to talk too as things are all new to them (not sure if you guys feel the same way). Went to D'Amour once, seems like there is a new mama, somebody said she use to work at T Time but I didn't recognize her. Only went in to Business and Camelot once and sat at the bar, had some lookers, I think the best of all the bars, but have not set my sights on anyone in particular. Will probably continue the Casino route for now. Cannot be spreading myself too thin.
Thanks again for your comments and I hope I can contribute also.
Howz'it Guys!
This is my first post. I stumbled upon this forum as I was doing a search. Anyway, have been out of the game for a while (2 years), just started going out again about a month ago. Seems very slow now. Can anyone give me the 411 on Casino, Business, Mayas and Camelot? And recommend any girls to sit with. Seems like these are the more popular places. I usually go to seek good company and entertainment, not primarily for sex, of course if she wants I will not refuse. I like to sit with someone who is not to pushy with the drinks, easy to talk too, of course gotta be decent looking (I know I know everyone is looking for this). I don't mind paying for. 20 glasses of tea if she is as described and seems sincere. Yes I know they are there to make money and that guys will have different experiences with the same girl, but any 411 will be good. Tired of dishing out bait and having to cut the line even though thats part of the experience. Put it this way, I want to read the Cliff Notes before I read the Book.
Anyway, hope you all have a Safe and Inexpensive New Year.Actually IMHO, I think YMMV with the girls at the bars. Depends if the girl like you, some are money hungry and disappear the minute you stop buying them drinks. FYI, stay away from the Chinese girls at evergreen, they are in it for the money and will try to suck you dry.
The younger girls are nice to talk with as long as you have the money. They are nice to you as long as you keep spending money on them. If you are willing to spend money on girls, just pick one and you will have a fun time with her. The younger ones are faster drinkers so you need more money to afford them. The older ones might be better to sit with, some will allow you extras but as I said before with any bar girl, YMMV because they may allow extras for one guy but not for another. The older ones also may not be as fast drinkers as the younger ones.
I think you just gotta go and watch the girls first to see which ones are the hustlers. Then try one of the non hustler girls to see how she is.
Actually IMHO, I think YMMV with the girls at the bars. Depends if the girl like you, some are money hungry and disappear the minute you stop buying them drinks. FYI, stay away from the Chinese girls at evergreen, they are in it for the money and will try to suck you dry.
The younger girls are nice to talk with as long as you have the money. They are nice to you as long as you keep spending money on them. If you are willing to spend money on girls, just pick one and you will have a fun time with her. The younger ones are faster drinkers so you need more money to afford them. The older ones might be better to sit with, some will allow you extras but as I said before with any bar girl, YMMV because they may allow extras for one guy but not for another. The older ones also may not be as fast drinkers as the younger ones.
I think you just gotta go and watch the girls first to see which ones are the hustlers. Then try one of the non hustler girls to see how she is.To add,
If you are really on the hunt, be patient, cruise by the bar (esp. By the area they order&pickup the drinks) as you can see who the hustlers are, and always remember they are there to make$$$ but I have met some that are really nice girls and just looking for a guy to take them away from the hustle.
& again, a few of them looking for a sugar daddy (s) to support their lifestyle
Always think with the bigger head, and you might not have to get a second job to support your mongering
Enjoy,
K
I've been with Honey, Emma, and Linda at Evergreen. Of these three, the only one not to keep hustling money out of me was Emma. She is really down to earth and fun to talk with. On the other hand, Honey and Linda are hustlers. Damn I remember them asking for drinks every 5 minutes! I was like wtf? !
After numerous visits I finally gave up and felt that the money I spent at the bars I'd be better off at an AMP. So now I only go if one of my friends wants to go drinking, which is like once or twice a month. I'm usually the DD and as soon as we're done at the bar/s. We head straight to an AMP.
You know, for some reason I just don't get it. If most bar girls make a lot of money. Why don't they get their teeth fixed too? There are many drop dead gorgeous women at the bars but omg, some of their teeth look like it could saw a tree in half. It's a big turnoff for me.
Actually IMHO, I think YMMV with the girls at the bars. Depends if the girl like you, some are money hungry and disappear the minute you stop buying them drinks. FYI, stay away from the Chinese girls at evergreen, they are in it for the money and will try to suck you dry.
The younger girls are nice to talk with as long as you have the money. They are nice to you as long as you keep spending money on them. If you are willing to spend money on girls, just pick one and you will have a fun time with her. The younger ones are faster drinkers so you need more money to afford them. The older ones might be better to sit with, some will allow you extras but as I said before with any bar girl, YMMV because they may allow extras for one guy but not for another. The older ones also may not be as fast drinkers as the younger ones.
I think you just gotta go and watch the girls first to see which ones are the hustlers. Then try one of the non hustler girls to see how she is.Aloha Member69-
I do agree the YMMV depending on the girl you select and depending if they like you or not. I just wanted to get info on girls to stay away from. Similar to your mentioning of the Chinese girls at Evergreen. But sometimes mama will bring someone and she looks pretty and acts real nice and you go back a couple of times and you in for $$$. I know that this is part of the experience and as someone posted "its like gambling" hit or miss, but just thought that there was current information on who to definitely stay away from because they are really pros. Anyway I was just asking, I know some members may think I have to pay my dues to get information and thats fine. Will post my experiences also. Anyway tried to go to Casino last night but was closed, anyone know when they will reopen?
You know, for some reason I just don't get it. If most bar girls make a lot of money. Why don't they get their teeth fixed too? There are many drop dead gorgeous women at the bars but omg, some of their teeth look like it could saw a tree in half. It's a big turnoff for me.
I've said it before, if the happy ending is the objective, pass on the bars. It's a big game.
I have not done a scientific survey, but bar girls don't net all that much money. Quite a few are problem gamblers and have substance abuse issues. Like any sales job, it's feast or famine. Guys get the idea that they got tons of money because they spend a lot of that money on clothes, cars, designer purses and jewelry. Unfortunately, not much on dental care.
FYI, stay away from the Chinese girls at evergreen, they are in it for the money and will try to suck you dry.
I second this advice. They are all in it for the money, but the Chinese girls there are pretty danged ungracious about it.
Just wondering, where are the places to go in the afternoon? I know a few places are open, but the ones I've been to either have no girls, or are old enough to be my grandmother. Case in point Pearl City.
Second question other than Evergreens, where are the Chinese girls hanging out?
Lastly anyone have any info on the Filipino bars in Waipahu? Worth going to, or waste of time?
TIA
CheapCharlie
01-04-08, 19:58
[no girls, or are old enough to be my grandmother. Case in point Pearl City.
Sounds like you're talking about Silk Lady Lounge. Am I right?
Captin Crunch
01-04-08, 20:24
Went to Diamond Castle in Pearl City yesterday in the afternoon and there is action. The girls aren't young, but you can have fun. I went with Hana to the private booth and she wanted me to DATY with her. Spent $. 60, I had fun. She asked if I wanted to go in the room with her and a friend, but it would cost "money".
Good Luck
Just wondering, where are the places to go in the afternoon? I know a few places are open, but the ones I've been to either have no girls, or are old enough to be my grandmother. Case in point Pearl City.
Lots of places open at noon. Some open at 6am. You are not going to find the young 'uns at those hours. They know they won't make any money.
Lastly anyone have any info on the Filipino bars in Waipahu? Worth going to, or waste of time?
Waste of time.
Baby Taboongau
01-06-08, 07:39
Lastly anyone have any info on the Filipino bars in Waipahu? Worth going to, or waste of time?
TIA I work at the auto body shop right by Best Friend in Waipahu have three chicks that I think is hot. one of the girls name is cathy. never sat with the the other two yet. they only work at the Friday and Saterday.
Soia is by the mill on waipahu depot. have one loco chick name susan. same age as my young sister. 39 years old.
And for those prick members who printing what we write on this forums and going to the bar and telling the girls. Hope you got some Pussy Points.
Tyrone Biggins
01-07-08, 04:27
Thats good if you having sex with'um but some of those girl are fricking wack out crazy!
Now my other friend just met that new girl that works at [Name deleted at author's request] and bang her and he told me she is psycho. So this Christmas Eve we went there and she threatened to kill him if he see another girl. Your friend must have game if he can score with a new girl after such a short while. Either that, or he is loaded.
When it comes to these bar girls, I can only think of the latter.
Really appreciate the info guys, thanks so much.
Also heard there's a place across from the Ilikai, anyone know what time it opens?
Any opinions on this girl named Tammy at Club Hanabi?
She used to work at Moonflower. She is partially blind and the others look after her. She was nice when she first got to Honolulu, but now, just a typical KB girl.
Tyrone Biggins
01-09-08, 05:37
Have any of you fellow mongers actually banged a kb girl? I've had two in my (almost) 1 year of patronizing such places. Yes, it was all about the money, however once I banged them, I cut them off. I admit that I did spend quite an amount just to get into their pants. I even bought a prepaid phone with CA digits just to use for these two!
I don't know. I like AMPs, but I also like a 'challenge', so to speak. AMPs are practically a given, but not so much with these kb girls.
"How much will it take me to spend until I can get into these girls' pants? And how can I make it 'cheaper'? " is what I challenge myself with. Stupid as it may sound, but I have fun pondering the idea.
Just wanted to know if any of you have had the same kind of experience, or 'tactics' as I do?
Would be nice to know that I'm not the only asshole out in town. Haha.
Thanks guys.
Have any of you fellow mongers actually banged a kb girl? I've had two in my (almost) 1 year of patronizing such places. Yes, it was all about the money, however once I banged them, I cut them off. I admit that I did spend quite an amount just to get into their pants. I even bought a prepaid phone with CA digits just to use for these two!
I don't know. I like AMPs, but I also like a 'challenge', so to speak. AMPs are practically a given, but not so much with these kb girls.
"How much will it take me to spend until I can get into these girls' pants? And how can I make it 'cheaper'? " is what I challenge myself with. Stupid as it may sound, but I have fun pondering the idea.
Just wanted to know if any of you have had the same kind of experience, or 'tactics' as I do?
Would be nice to know that I'm not the only asshole out in town. Haha.
Thanks guys.
I've banged alot of bar girls. Not the old ones, but the ones in their late 20s early 30s. It's a matter of beating them at their game. However, I did have relationships with them afterwards. The best was a girl I met that night. She was cute, but seemed lonely. Spent $20 buying her one drink and off we went! The real key is to listen to them and treat them as a person, not as a bar girl.
Tyrone Biggins
01-09-08, 20:31
I've banged alot of bar girls. Not the old ones, but the ones in their late 20s early 30s. It's a matter of beating them at their game. However, I did have relationships with them afterwards. The best was a girl I met that night. She was cute, but seemed lonely. Spent $20 buying her one drink and off we went! The real key is to listen to them and treat them as a person, not as a bar girl.Hmmm, I may have to try that piece of advice and treat them a little better.
Btw, how was your relationships with those girls? I figure you must've had to have been incognito when going out with them in public, in case of coming across their customers (being that this island is so small)?
Iliketowatch
01-09-08, 20:54
Went to business this past weekend. Sat with Candy, 1st time. Put my hand between her legs but she quickly moved my hand so I got the message. 1 drink and I was gone. I did see an new girl there. Young Mid-twenties. Didn't look Korean or Japanese. Could be Chinese. Will try her next time. Business was really slow.
Iliketowatch
01-09-08, 21:02
I've banged alot of bar girls. Not the old ones, but the ones in their late 20s early 30s. It's a matter of beating them at their game. However, I did have relationships with them afterwards. The best was a girl I met that night. She was cute, but seemed lonely. Spent $20 buying her one drink and off we went! The real key is to listen to them and treat them as a person, not as a bar girl.
I've hit and run several girls in the past. Usually buy them 2 drinks and tell them I'll be back at 2:00 and we can go get something to eat. Usually end up at sodobo (sp?), million or like like. Take her home (see must live alone) then work my way into her house by saying I need to use the bathroom and then put the move on her. This has been a while back though. The newer girls are not that guilable. It's just a one shot deal (pun intended) so it does make it uncomforatble going back to the bar. Has anyone had a real good f**k from these bar girls. I always get the dead tunas. They just lay there, very little noise. It's just like they don't know what to do. Anyone else experience this?
Hmmm, I may have to try that piece of advice and treat them a little better.
Btw, how was your relationships with those girls? I figure you must've had to have been incognito when going out with them in public, in case of coming across their customers (being that this island is so small)?
They were true gfs as they didn't give a rip if customers saw us together.
Niner Whiner
01-10-08, 03:58
I've hit and run several girls in the past. Usually buy them 2 drinks and tell them I'll be back at 2:00 and we can go get something to eat. Usually end up at sodobo (sp?), million or like like. Take her home (see must live alone) then work my way into her house by saying I need to use the bathroom and then put the move on her. This has been a while back though. The newer girls are not that guilable. It's just a one shot deal (pun intended) so it does make it uncomforatble going back to the bar. Has anyone had a real good f**k from these bar girls. I always get the dead tunas. They just lay there, very little noise. It's just like they don't know what to do. Anyone else experience this?Just heed JR's words of wisdom.
Women are emotional creatures. Treat a woman like a **** and you'll end up with a sex object. Treat a woman like a lady and you'll end up with a lover. The difference being, as you stated, having someone just going through the motions versus being with someone with emotions. And the sex is much better with someone who wants it just as much as you do.
Member #3973
01-10-08, 19:36
Went to Vegas II earlier this week, since London Hub still is closed. Sat with Nana, a tanned korean, 30's, 5'4", nice Cs and highlighted hair in a short black dress. She was sexy and looking hot, but a bit fast ordering shots, so I bailed after 4 for her. I know YMMV, anyone knows if she plays if you spend more on her?
If you prefer, PM me.
Iliketowatch
01-11-08, 00:46
Just heed JR's words of wisdom.
Women are emotional creatures. Treat a woman like a **** and you'll end up with a sex object. Treat a woman like a lady and you'll end up with a lover. The difference being, as you stated, having someone just going through the motions versus being with someone with emotions. And the sex is much better with someone who wants it just as much as you do.
I learned the hard way. They were just giving in to sex. No passion. You need that emotional connection, but the Korean girls are too emotional. Watching the Korean soaps, they thrive on emotional situations (good and bad).
Have any of you fellow mongers actually banged a kb girl? I've had two in my (almost) 1 year of patronizing such places.
When I was frequenting hostess bars years ago, I found that my success rate was much better (a) at sleazy bars, and (b) with the less attractive women and older women. There were several exceptions, but they required a greater commitment of time and money.
Buck N Ham
01-11-08, 05:14
Well put Niner and like everything else its all about trial and error. Some you'll piss off and some you'll adore - no matter how finely tuned your tactics are. Its all part of this emotional game we are playing with these women. They know it too...and that's why we keep going back over and over again.
Be well.
Buck.
Just heed JR's words of wisdom.
Women are emotional creatures. Treat a woman like a **** and you'll end up with a sex object. Treat a woman like a lady and you'll end up with a lover. The difference being, as you stated, having someone just going through the motions versus being with someone with emotions. And the sex is much better with someone who wants it just as much as you do.
Does anyone know about the new KB named New World?
Used to be named something else - don't know the old name.
When I was frequenting hostess bars years ago, I found that my success rate was much better (a) at sleazy bars, and (b) with the less attractive women and older women. There were several exceptions, but they required a greater commitment of time and money.Does anyone know about the KB named New World? Used to be named something else - don't know old name.
Does anyone know about the new KB named New World?
Used to be named something else - don't know the old name.
An address or general location might get you an answer sooner.
Captin Crunch
01-13-08, 15:08
An address or general location might get you an answer sooner.Drove by it yesterday. It's the small bar behind Palama Supermarket
Princess Palace (Pearl City) is now a strip bar. I was in the vicinity late last week and they just finished building the stage. I'm out with a cold and probably won't be out and about until the weekend. If I get out there, I'll post a report.
Drove by it yesterday. It's the small bar behind Palama SupermarketAnyone had any luck there?
Buck N Ham
01-17-08, 03:34
Head Lock,
I dont get out much to Aiea or Pearl City to hobby but with some of the buzz about Electro, I decided to venture out this evening. Needless to say the parking lot out front was packed so I ventured out a few blocks down towards Longs. Saw a bunch of KBs but none peeked my interest. Where is Princess Palace located? Any landmarks worth noting?
Thanks!
Buck
Princess Palace (Pearl City) is now a strip bar. I was in the vicinity late last week and they just finished building the stage. I'm out with a cold and probably won't be out and about until the weekend. If I get out there, I'll post a report.
Just heed JR's words of wisdom.
Women are emotional creatures.
Treat a woman like a lady and you'll end up with a lover.
And the sex is much better with someone who wants it just as much as you do.
Amen to that, brother. I live that life. GFE all the time. AUUUU RIGHT!
Hinode :cool:
Head Lock,
I dont get out much to Aiea or Pearl City to hobby but with some of the buzz about Electro, I decided to venture out this evening. Needless to say the parking lot out front was packed so I ventured out a few blocks down towards Longs. Saw a bunch of KBs but none peeked my interest. Where is Princess Palace located? Any landmarks worth noting?
Thanks!
BuckIt's directly across the street from Zippy's and downstairs. You can get down to the lower level parking by turning before Chevron. I drove by a couple times and the parking lot is usually pretty empty, but I haven't gone on the weekend.
Where is Princess Palace located? Any landmarks worth noting?
In an advertisement the location of Princess Palace is identified as 803 Kam Highway, Pearl City Business Plaza (which is slightly Diamond Head of Waimano Home Road and across Kam Highway from Pearl City Shopping Center).
Member #4752
01-17-08, 16:15
I went to check it out last night and there were only 2 girls dancing. The bartender was hot though. Left and went to Electro down the street.
Thumperforq
01-17-08, 16:40
Head Lock,
I dont get out much to Aiea or Pearl City to hobby but with some of the buzz about Electro, I decided to venture out this evening. Needless to say the parking lot out front was packed so I ventured out a few blocks down towards Longs. Saw a bunch of KBs but none peeked my interest. Where is Princess Palace located? Any landmarks worth noting?
Thanks!
Buck
Princess Palace is downstairs from Flamingo's Restaurant and Souvaly's Thai Restaurant. It's also downstairs from Pearl City Relaxation and across the street from the Pearl City Zippys.
Is Princess Palace worth visiting? I thought about it the other night, but we just went to the "sure thing" Electros. We normally get there pretty early, but when I get there late I just valet park.
Anyone had any luck there?
The place is real tiny. Maybe six booths in a row. A small karaoke room that no one uses between the kitchen and the bar. I've had studio apartments bigger than that place. So, I've never tried anything there but don't see where you'd make your play.
Princess Palace is downstairs from Flamingo's Restaurant and Souvaly's Thai Restaurant. It's also downstairs from Pearl City Relaxation and across the street from the Pearl City Zippys.
You can get there by going up toward Flamingo's then heading to to back of the parking deck to the ramp downstairs. Alternately, and probably easier, is to head for the space between the Chevron station and Pearl City Business Plaza and down the little hill into the lower parking lot.
Be careful leaving. Sometimes, Honolulu's finest lay in wait for easy pickings. Sometimes they hang out by the gas station across the street or park by Henckels and McCoy. Because you are coming up the hill, it's easy to accidentally spin your tires as you try to pull into traffic. That is pretext for HPD to stop you. Another trap is if you come down the ramp by Souvaly's and try to turn left to get across to the ewa-bound lanes. I know one guy who was pulled over for going against traffic by doing that move. It's all BS, IMO, but forewarned is forearmed.
808scorpio
01-20-08, 20:47
Princess Palace,
that's good to know about the police at Chevron.
Q- I wonder how old Hana is? she's older but is still hot and will play. Nice chest as well.
At Casino, I've never met Anna but I've sat with Bobbie. With her hair down, she reminds me of Lucy Liu (eg. Charlie's Angels). She's nice to talk with a good conversation. Since she is new and being mentored by Jini (shorter hostess), she was quite reluctant to force customers into buying her drinks.
After spending some $$$, we dated a few times for late lunch and was planning to watch a movie (but never got around it because her work schedule). Anyway she's a good kisser and has a nice cleavage. But if you're looking for something else, the mama san will not allow her to invite any dudes up to her apartment or else she is out.
As a rule, never believe a bar girl. Count how much you've spent, and never go in the room in a KB bar. Avoid buying any size champagne or soju.
Beware of Jennifer at Casino. I nicknamed her the Dragon Lady since she has the tatoo of a dragon wrapped around a rose on her back. She's firebreathing and money hungry! So if you do not watch your wallet, you'll get burn. She's slim and has big long hair, and small titees (I know since she let me feel them at the booth). With heels, she's about 5'8".
Be safe. ;o)
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Thank you Head Lock, Kapalua, Makana and Twisted, for your comments. And yes I did read "all" the other posts. But it goes back more than two years and mostly talks about bars in Kalihi (which I have no problem with just not my cup of tea). Also, was hoping to see more recent info.
My recent experiences have been at Casino, sat with Anna and Bobbie. Only sat with them for a little while, as they seemed busy. I think Bobbie is new and Anna has been there for a year maybe. Both seemed nice but did not have the chance to find out how sincere they are. May have to go back again. Went to Maya's a couple of times but didn't sit with anyone had some older girls that were pretty, but didn't want to take the chance with anyone as the older ones tend to be more professional. In my past experiences, the newer ones were better to talk too as things are all new to them (not sure if you guys feel the same way). Went to D'Amour once, seems like there is a new mama, somebody said she use to work at T Time but I didn't recognize her. Only went in to Business and Camelot once and sat at the bar, had some lookers, I think the best of all the bars, but have not set my sights on anyone in particular. Will probably continue the Casino route for now. Cannot be spreading myself too thin.
Thanks again for your comments and I hope I can contribute also.
Turboman808
01-21-08, 05:07
Got a call from Kyong (from LH). She is back from Korea. She's going to lay low for a little while and then decide where/when she wants to go back to work.
Will keep you posted.
Princess Palace,
that's good to know about the police at Chevron.
Q- I wonder how old Hana is? she's older but is still hot and will play. Nice chest as well.
I"m guessing at least mid-50's, but may be older. Hard to tell in the dim lights.
Or should I say Cum a lot. There are some 10% girls there, but most are your standard money sucking biatches. Miji and her partners are very nice but money hungry. The girls there are some of the hardest core KB girls in town and its getting worse. I have begun to migrate to Kalihi, where they are a little more older and more appreciative. But no matter what, a KBG is a KBG. PM me if you know any of them who put out and I will exchange info.
Looks like Joanne/dior and ema are back at evergreen. They are my ATF.
Niner Whiner
01-22-08, 03:58
Amen to that, brother. I live that life. GFE all the time. AUUUU RIGHT!
Hinode :cool:Nice.
Better hold on to 'em, bruddah...new generation of girls are something else...
Princess Palace,
Q- I wonder how old Hana is? she's older but is still hot and will play. Nice chest as well.She's not a MILF anymore, more like GILF.
CheapCharlie
01-22-08, 08:39
Got a call from Kyong (from LH). She is back from Korea. She's going to lay low for a little while and then decide where/when she wants to go back to work.
Will keep you posted.
I was just going to post if anybody knows what happened to her. I thought someone was going to post that they saw her at Red carnation or Club Ruby. I sure miss doing that tight snatch of hers! Thanks for the info Turboman!
CheapCharlie
01-27-08, 01:57
Went last night to see if I could confirm a Sunny sighting. Hate to say this,but no sign of her. I was approached by a older auntie korean lady. Said her name was Yong, my guess is that shes about 5'3, shoulder length hair, c-cups, late 40s,early 50s and messed up teeth. Made small talk with me for awhile,then asked for a drink. Told her maybe later,then she left me alone. Best looking one in there was the bartender. Nice cleavage show,was going to leave $1 tip,but upped it to $2 after looking at her cleavage all night. I did see one of the older less popular ladies from LH. I don't know her name,but she seemed to be getting more business at Eclipse then she was at LH.
Peckerwood
01-27-08, 13:59
I went to Eclipse before New Years and Sunny was there. The other lady you spoke of is Ogi(sp) she was also working when I went there. There are 2 young girls working but I think they pretty much just hustle the drinks.
PW
Nice.
Better hold on to 'em, bruddah...new generation of girls are something else...
She's not a MILF anymore, more like GILF.
Yep...thats why shes NOT a new generation girl..more of an OG woman ;)
And LOL @ "GILF"..
Hinode
Kbarlurker
01-28-08, 04:13
Went last night to see if I could confirm a Sunny sighting. Hate to say this,but no sign of her. I was approached by a older auntie korean lady. Said her name was Yong, my guess is that shes about 5'3, shoulder length hair, c-cups, late 40s,early 50s and messed up teeth. Made small talk with me for awhile,then asked for a drink. Told her maybe later,then she left me alone. Best looking one in there was the bartender. Nice cleavage show,was going to leave $1 tip,but upped it to $2 after looking at her cleavage all night. I did see one of the older less popular ladies from LH. I don't know her name,but she seemed to be getting more business at Eclipse then she was at LH.CC,
Yong will play, hj and bj available. She is there early afternoon nice and shaved. She will play with her "little man in the boat" for you.
CheapCharlie
01-28-08, 18:16
CC,
Yong will play, hj and bj available. She is there early afternoon nice and shaved. She will play with her "little man in the boat" for you.
Nah,not and never will be interested in getting any from Yong. Whats the scoops on the bartender? Like I said in my post she was the best looking one in the bar that night. thanks for the info CC.
\Whats the scoops on the bartender? Like I said in my post she was the best looking one in the bar that night.
Beyond the cleavage, what's she look like? Failing that, what night are we talking about?
Kbarlurker
01-29-08, 03:17
Nah, not and never will be interested in getting any from Yong. Whats the scoops on the bartender? Like I said in my post she was the best looking one in the bar that night. Thanks for the info CC. CC, Are you talking about the bartender nice cleavage just a little chubby? If so, I chatted with her a few times but she is busy with sugar daddies or regulars most times. Will try to see if I can "feel her out" and post results.
CheapCharlie
01-29-08, 08:02
I went this past friday at around 9. The bartender was wearing a long sleeve purple shirt. She must have been about 5'5, hair past shoulders,C or D cups and on the slim side. As for her age, I would guess about late 30s or early 40s. Sorry for the half-assed description,but was staring at her cleavage the short time I was there. CC. p.s. might go back this coming friday.
I went this past friday at around 9. The bartender was wearing a long sleeve purple shirt. She must have been about 5'5, hair past shoulders,C or D cups and on the slim side. As for her age, I would guess about late 30s or early 40s. Sorry for the half-assed description,but was staring at her cleavage the short time I was there. CC. p.s. might go back this coming friday.What's the bartender's name?
CC, Are you talking about the bartender nice cleavage just a little chubby? If so, I chatted with her a few times but she is busy with sugar daddies or regulars most times. Will try to see if I can "feel her out" and post results.There are two with nice cleavage. A younger, shorter, chubbier, with cute face. An older, taller, slimmer, with attractive face; fairly new to the bar. Both appear to have non-enhanced sets.
Kblurker is correct about cutey having sugar daddies/regulars. I think pretty woman only works behind the bar, but does accept drinks of course.
Don't either of their names.
CheapCharlie
01-31-08, 08:38
What's the bartender's name?
Brother,I have no idea! If you read my post I said I was staring at her cleavage the whole time I was there. The only one I talked to was that lady Yong. I just read Pursuer's post and the one I saw that night, was probably the older,taller,slimmer and more attractive one. Like I said in my other post,I might go back this friday. I hope I have enough balls to at least talk to her and get to at least know her name. Wish me luck!
Peckerwood
01-31-08, 21:35
There are two with nice cleavage. A younger, shorter, chubbier, with cute face. An older, taller, slimmer, with attractive face; fairly new to the bar. Both appear to have non-enhanced sets.
Kblurker is correct about cutey having sugar daddies/regulars. I think pretty woman only works behind the bar, but does accept drinks of course.
Don't either of their names.
Does the shorter one kinda resemble Jill Kuramoto? If so, her name is Amy, she bartendered at LH then leased the small bar on Colburn. I've met the taller one too but I forget her name.
PW
I wonder which bar is under surveillance.
http://starbulletin.com/breaking/breaking.php?id=6676
No need to call 911 to catch this alleged thief
Star-Bulletin Staff
citydesk@starbulletin.com
Choosing to break into someone else’s van is a bad decision. Picking a van filled with undercover cops is just plain bad luck.
That’s just what happened late last night, according to police.
Undercover officers in street clothes were on a stakeout in a van at Sheridan and Kamaile streets on the makai side of the Keeaumoku Street Wal-Mart. Just before midnight a man opened the front passenger door and searched a duffle bag on the floor, police said.
The officers hid behind the back seat watching the suspect, police said. The suspect allegedly removed the bag from the van and continued searching it on the sidewalk.
The officers slid open the van’s passenger door and confronted the suspect.
A brief struggle followed before the suspect, 45, was arrested on suspicion of unauthorized entry into a vehicle and resisting arrest.
I wonder which bar is under surveillance.
http://starbulletin.com/breaking/breaking.php?id=6676
oh that's stupidity combined with bad luck.
Buck N Ham
02-01-08, 04:39
Wow, you just can't make this stuff up huh?
Good candidate story for a Darwin Award.
Buck
I wonder which bar is under surveillance.
http://starbulletin.com/breaking/breaking.php?id=6676
Member #3973
02-01-08, 22:44
Club Hanabi is right on that corner.
I wonder which bar is under surveillance.
http://starbulletin.com/breaking/breaking.php?id=6676
London Hub is OPEN! Went by tonight and the place was completely renovated. The bar has been relocated to the back wall as you walk in the front door. I didn't recognize anyone there as the crowd was definitely younger along with the girls. It was really bright in there!
Does the shorter one kinda resemble Jill Kuramoto? If so, her name is Amy, she bartendered at LH then leased the small bar on Colburn. I've met the taller one too but I forget her name.
PWYes, Amy does resemble Jill, only cuter (but chubbier).
I stand corrected: pretty woman does work the floor.
Any luck, Chuck?
Honolulu Yobo
02-03-08, 00:49
Has anyone been to Blue Carnation in Kaimuki lately? It's across Kaimuki Park.
Years ago I got some action in the upstairs room. I haven't been back in a while and was wondering if anyone is getting anything there.
I went there about 4 months ago and there was a cute bartender that was working nights. Kind of tall with a nice rack.
She said she was working in the Kapiolani area before she started there.
Sorry, I just don't remember her name. You'll just have to go and find out on your own.
HY
CheapCharlie
02-03-08, 03:21
Sorry to say this,but I skipped going to Eclipse last night. I know it sounds like I punked out,but was in the mood to see more the just cleavage;so went to Mistys instead.
Primal Needs
02-03-08, 04:07
London Hub is OPEN! Went by tonight and the place was completely renovated. The bar has been relocated to the back wall as you walk in the front door. I didn't recognize anyone there as the crowd was definitely younger along with the girls. It was really bright in there!
Sounds good so far, but what about the infamous back room? Is it still there? Or more importantly, even if it is there, will it be used like it was before?
With younger girls and a different owner, my guess is no.
Oh, and what do they call it now? Still LH?
Primal Needs
Sorry to say this,but I skipped going to Eclipse last night. I know it sounds like I punked out,but was in the mood to see more the just cleavage;so went to Mistys instead.Well, misty's a VSC. Last time I went, there was nothing to report. "Dancers" there are like tuneless jukeboxes.
Has anyone been to Blue Carnation in Kaimuki lately? It's across Kaimuki Park.I think it's called Blue Sea now. Last fall I went there in the early evening - before 8:00. Not much action. I sat at the bar and Kim sat next to me and was real friendly. She's middle aged but actually not a bad bod for that age. Big soft boobs - natural C cups. And slim except a little soft in the tummy, explained by her age and child birth. Bought her a couple of drinks and she started rubbing the johnny until almost bursting. Suggested upstairs room. Had to buy her 5 drinks ($). Took her clothes off, boobs were wonderful to play with and suck, pussy shaved and wet. But no FS. Used some lotion for a fantastic BBHJ. Damage 2 booth drinks (0.4), 5 room drinks ($), tip for the house (0.4). Door to the room locks! Nobody upstairs, so real private. Went back for 2 more BBHJ, but could never get her to agree to FS - even for $$. L=6; A=8; S=7. Will repeat only if horny and need variety. But for a neewbie, a good first step.
Sorry to say this,but I skipped going to Eclipse last night. I know it sounds like I punked out,but was in the mood to see more the just cleavage;so went to Mistys instead.I was there on Wed. nite. Not too busy. When we got there, a whole bunch of girls were outside smoking. Saw bartender - looked pretty ordinary, actually not bad but nothing to swoon over. Hostess said that there is a bartender named Amy, but didn't say too much about her. Other bartender is new. There's a middle aged hostess named Yujin there who looks years younger. Slim body, wears real short, revealing, tight dresses. Think she must wear thong. My friend said if you buy her enough drinks (she drinks fast - about 1 per 15 minutes), she'll rub the dickie like it's no tomorrow. Don't know if she'll provide FS, but have seen her go into room with customer, and take 2 bottle of sochu in too. Real sexy but kinda expensive. There's another new girl there, tall about 5'6-5'7, real nice bod, but ordinary face. Looks like might be worth working on but don't know if she provides. Eclipse seems to be regular kb in Kalihi, but some of the girls really drink fast.
Went to Misty II about a month ago during the week. Very slow. No dancers until you get up and pay for some songs. Although the girls spread 'em wide in front of you, it's too dark for me to see anything useful with my old eyes.
Well, misty's a VSC. Last time I went, there was nothing to report. "Dancers" there are like tuneless jukeboxes.
Has anyone been to the bar that is next to Akasaka?
I was there 4 yrs ago and went home with this lady named sue. She was a dancer there kind of old but what you going expect for free.
Just wondering. Now too scared to go in.
Peckerwood
02-04-08, 15:52
Has anyone been to the bar that is next to Akasaka?
I was there 4 yrs ago and went home with this lady named sue. She was a dancer there kind of old but what you going expect for free.
Just wondering. Now too scared to go in.
I would avoid that place but to each his own.
PW
Peckerwood
02-04-08, 15:58
I went by yesterday after the superbowl and I saw Yujin, she was pretty blasted. I sat on the bar and she came over and sat on my knee, I was gonna FIV but its just too bright. I also heard that Sunny went to work on Maui, anyone truth to the rumor?
PW
I went by yesterday after the superbowl and I saw Yujin, she was pretty blasted. I sat on the bar and she came over and sat on my knee, I was gonna FIV but its just too bright. I also heard that Sunny went to work on Maui, anyone truth to the rumor?
PW
Is this the famous Yujin orginally from New Casino who later worked at Camelot? Young cute face but will suck your wallet dry and maybe even take a tip without you knowing?
Peckerwood
02-05-08, 00:31
Is this the famous Yujin orginally from New Casino who later worked at Camelot? Young cute face but will suck your wallet dry and maybe even take a tip without you knowing?
Sounds like her but I've never seen her at any other bar.
PW
Sounds like her but I've never seen her at any other bar.
PWNo, different Yujin. The New Casino/Camelot Yujin is very fair and has nice big rack. And sucks your wallet dry. The Eclipse Yujin is older, not as cute or fair (but not unattractive), more fun, and is slim with small (A/B) tits. She can be expensive too, especially if you want some touchy, touchy action.
Playfulguy
02-05-08, 00:51
Sounds like her but I've never seen her at any other bar.
PWNot the same Yujin from Camelot/Casino. Totally different girl. Well maybe the same with the tactics. Suck your wallet dry! lol
Not the same Yujin from Camelot/Casino. Totally different girl. Well maybe the same with the tactics. Suck your wallet dry! lolWent there one night and overheard a customer yelling about how she added a few more drinks to his tab. Patty mama had to come over and resolve. This girl Yujin is very bad news. But if u have $$$ to spend(waste) go for it.
I read as much of this as my eyes could take but I'm going to ask some irritating questions anyway. I live in CA and only come out to Honolulu every 4-6 months for work and only for a couple of days. I don't have any experience with k or v bars. I have to work during the day but I'm usually finished by mid or early afternoon. The last couple of times I came out I chose LH because from what I had read it was a sure thing and reasonably priced. I don't have time to convince a girl I'm not a dirtbag, and I'm probably not a good enough liar anyway. I'm coming out to Hi again next week and I want to give it another shot. I liked LH because I could sit around and have a few drinks before knocking it out in the back. At strip clubs, I spend a lot of money and get nothing, and at massage parlors it's in and out pretty quickly with no time to just have a beer or stretch it out to a couple of hours. It looks like LH has turned into a big question mark since it closed and re-opened, and this time I want to take a step up in quality. So here's my "help me out even though I've done nothing for you" question. Out of these dozens of bars mentioned on here that I can't even keep straight without graph paper and footnotes and eyestrain, which one would you go to if you didn't mind spending up to $$$$ or so, wanted at least BJ (FS preferred) from a hottish and youngish girl, and only had one night to make it happen? I don't care which part of Asia she is from, and I don't want to go escort or Kuhio SW because I want to talk and relax and drink booze and flirt, too. I'm not the smoothest or fittest guy, and I'm not a sportfisherman. I'm pretty lazy, really. Thanks in advance, and if you ever come to LA and want some good AMP tips, I'm your man.
I went to Smile last week and noticed that there is a "new" mamasan working. They have some "new" faces working there and I was introduced to Janet (Vietnamese)who was very service oriented and friendly - she has a nice rack to fondle and she knows how to please and I left with a big smile on my face like I always do!
Club Hanabi is right on that corner.
Originally Posted by John Ross
I wonder which bar is under surveillance.
http://starbulletin.com/breaking/breaking.php?id=6676
Club Sakura (next to Club Hanabi) is also near the corner of Kamaile and Sheridan. However, the police surveillance might have concerned drug activity, burglary or auto theft in that neighborhood, rather than targeting a specific bar. From that location, even a portion of the Wal-Mart property can be viewed, especially with binoculars. By the way, the Honolulu Advertiser reported the defendant in that case has thirty-seven prior convictions -- what a dummy!
I read as much of this as my eyes could take but I'm going to ask some irritating questions anyway. I live in CA and only come out to Honolulu every 4-6 months for work and only for a couple of days. I don't have any experience with k or v bars. I have to work during the day but I'm usually finished by mid or early afternoon. The last couple of times I came out I chose LH because from what I had read it was a sure thing and reasonably priced. I don't have time to convince a girl I'm not a dirtbag, and I'm probably not a good enough liar anyway. I'm coming out to Hi again next week and I want to give it another shot. I liked LH because I could sit around and have a few drinks before knocking it out in the back. At strip clubs, I spend a lot of money and get nothing, and at massage parlors it's in and out pretty quickly with no time to just have a beer or stretch it out to a couple of hours. It looks like LH has turned into a big question mark since it closed and re-opened, and this time I want to take a step up in quality. So here's my "help me out even though I've done nothing for you" question. Out of these dozens of bars mentioned on here that I can't even keep straight without graph paper and footnotes and eyestrain, which one would you go to if you didn't mind spending up to $$$$ or so, wanted at least BJ (FS preferred) from a hottish and youngish girl, and only had one night to make it happen? I don't care which part of Asia she is from, and I don't want to go escort or Kuhio SW because I want to talk and relax and drink booze and flirt, too. I'm not the smoothest or fittest guy, and I'm not a sportfisherman. I'm pretty lazy, really. Thanks in advance, and if you ever come to LA and want some good AMP tips, I'm your man.Vietnamese Clubs are more action oriented. You might want to try Cache on Kona St. for a close (but more expensive) to LH experience. If you can find the right girl maybe Sky Lounge? Or another option is to hit a AMP before or after a visiting a bar. Have fun!
Buck N Ham
02-06-08, 02:44
I went to Smile last week and noticed that there is a "new" mamasan working. They have some "new" faces working there and I was introduced to Janet (Vietnamese)who was very service oriented and friendly - she has a nice rack to fondle and she knows how to please and I left with a big smile on my face like I always do!Thanks for the report. May need to check out Smile Spa after all your good reviews.
Buck
Vietnamese Clubs are more action oriented. You might want to try Cache on Kona St. for a close (but more expensive) to LH experience. If you can find the right girl maybe Sky Lounge? Or another option is to hit a AMP before or after a visiting a bar. Have fun!
Went to Cache early tonight (6:30-7:00). No action. Only saw 1 or 2 girls. If Epoch wants early action, Cache might not be the place - unless one of you mongerers have a name. Vegas II across from LH might have early action if you find the right girl and spend $$$$. Think Chanel2 (and maybe even Chanel1) and possibly Candy1. The few times I met them, they were pretty frisky. You can't get FS from Candy2 but BJ and HJ might be possible.
Captin Crunch
02-06-08, 04:26
Where is Sky Lounge?
Went to Cache early tonight (6:30-7:00). No action. Only saw 1 or 2 girls. If Epoch wants early action, Cache might not be the place - unless one of you mongerers have a name. Vegas II across from LH might have early action if you find the right girl and spend $$$$. Think Chanel2 (and maybe even Chanel1) and possibly Candy1. The few times I met them, they were pretty frisky. You can't get FS from Candy2 but BJ and HJ might be possible.
Kbarlurker
02-06-08, 04:33
I think it's called Blue Sea now. Last fall I went there in the early evening - before 8:00. Not much action. I sat at the bar and Kim sat next to me and was real friendly. She's middle aged but actually not a bad bod for that age. Big soft boobs - natural C cups. And slim except a little soft in the tummy, explained by her age and child birth. Bought her a couple of drinks and she started rubbing the johnny until almost bursting. Suggested upstairs room. Had to buy her 5 drinks ($). Took her clothes off, boobs were wonderful to play with and suck, pussy shaved and wet. But no FS. Used some lotion for a fantastic BBHJ. Damage 2 booth drinks (0.4), 5 room drinks ($), tip for the house (0.4). Door to the room locks! Nobody upstairs, so real private. Went back for 2 more BBHJ, but could never get her to agree to FS - even for $$. L=6; A=8; S=7. Will repeat only if horny and need variety. But for a neewbie, a good first step.Stopped by saw the day bartender, older, nice rack, a little chubby, but I'd do her!!! Will she go upstairs?
Edward King
02-06-08, 04:39
which one would you go to if you didn't mind spending up to $$$$ or so, wanted at least BJ (FS preferred) from a hottish and youngish girl, and only had one night to make it happen?Going all the way at the typical "classier" (for lack of a better word) K/V bar in one night is going to be tough unless you're a regular or just plain lucky.
I would recommend a $$ "investment" in realtionship-building at the K/V bar that most appeals to you, then $$ at the AMP of your choice to finish off.
That way you'll get all in one night, and hey, variety is the spice of life after all.
PS: If you're still coherent after 2AM, Evergreen attracts lots of girls from the other bars looking for after-hours action.
Member #3973
02-06-08, 07:07
Don't count on it from girls at K-bars or, though a better chance, V-bars, unless you spend time and lots of $$$$. Best bet is dropping in at the AMPs and looking at the line up, especially on Ward, VIP, PT and Nirvana. If you want to be sure, go for an escort, but it will likely cost you $$$ or more. LH style action is likely in Kalihi bars, but it will be the model girl's mother or even granny.
Good luck
Where is Sky Lounge?
It's located at 1362 Kapiolani Boulevard (mauka side of Kapiolani, Diamond Head of the Sheridan Street intersection and Ewa of the Keeaumoku Street intersection).
PS: If you're still coherent after 2AM, Evergreen attracts lots of girls from the other bars looking for after-hours action.Awesome info. I'm confused about Evergreen. I don't think a lot of these places are in the yellow pages. From these boards I can't tell if Evergreen is a bar or AMP. From the boards it looks like there was an AMP called Evergreen that closed in March07. Did it reopen or move or is there now a bar called Evergreen that stays open after 2am? Also, what does Kalihi mean?
I checked out the new LH, everything does look different. I still see that still have that karaoke room, Not much girls there to look at. So I left and checked out eclipse. First time there, not much girls there either. So went to excel, older girls, sat with one of them, she showed me her pink nipples, sucked on a them a bit. Asked if they had a back room, they said they don't. Old LH was the best.
Awesome info. I'm confused about Evergreen. I don't think a lot of these places are in the yellow pages. From these boards I can't tell if Evergreen is a bar or AMP. From the boards it looks like there was an AMP called Evergreen that closed in March07. Did it reopen or move or is there now a bar called Evergreen that stays open after 2am? Also, what does Kalihi mean?
The former relaxation business named Evergreen was located on the second floor of 1687 Kapiolani Boulevard. However, it closed and did not reopen or relocate (at least not under that name).
The bar named Evergreen is located at 1376 Kapiolani Boulevard, on the mauka (north) side of Kapiolani, Diamond Head (east) of the Sheridan Street intersection and Ewa (west) of the Keeaumoku Street intersection.
Kalihi is an area of Honolulu with many bars (including the former London Hub). If you would like to see the location of the Kalihi area on a map, it's included within Map 2 of the maps near the front of the Hawaiian Telcom Yellow Pages.
Awesome info. I'm confused about Evergreen. I don't think a lot of these places are in the yellow pages. From these boards I can't tell if Evergreen is a bar or AMP. From the boards it looks like there was an AMP called Evergreen that closed in March07. Did it reopen or move or is there now a bar called Evergreen that stays open after 2am? Also, what does Kalihi mean?Evergreen is a bar. Closes at 4am. Been around for years -- with a few name changes in between. It was around before that AMP by the same name.
You ain't from around here, are ya?
Kalihi is a large district roughly adjacent to downtown Honolulu. Large industrial areas and neighborhoods ranging from nice suburban to tough public housing. You mentioned having visited LH. That's the lower portion of Kalihi.
Yep she rips everyone she can, saw her rip off a handicapped guy, she's works at the bar next door as well. She; s a b----.
Stopped by saw the day bartender, older, nice rack, a little chubby, but I'd do her!!! Will she go upstairs?
The times I've been there the bartender didn't seem inclined to go anywhere with the customers at the bar. You might get lucky if you buy her a few drinks near the end of her shift or when it's a bit slow - which is most of the time.YMMV
Its the same name and completely renovated, everything redesigned. New mama from p. C. No play, some 40-50y/o ladies.
Honolulu Yobo
02-09-08, 04:49
The times I've been there the bartender didn't seem inclined to go anywhere with the customers at the bar. You might get lucky if you buy her a few drinks near the end of her shift or when it's a bit slow - which is most of the time.YMMVIf this is the bartender that I think you are talking about, she is the one that I went upstairs with.
Her name is Mi Sook.
The only problem is that she has a child at home waiting for her, and I don't know if she will stay around late to play.
Honolulu Yobo
02-09-08, 04:58
Went to Camelot last night and was sitting at the bar near the entrance. One girl came by me and it smelled like she didn't wipe after doing #2 and it was 2 or 3 days old. Later, two different girls came out from the room, and they hung around the door with Patti mama, and when a breeze blew in from outside, there was this smell like animal feces. When the girls left, the smell went away. Does anyone know if the girls are opening the back door and letting customers play there?
HY
Word of advice. Probably best to go drink at a bar first and then go to an AMP when you're ready. At least you pretty much will get serviced at the mp. You can try to ge serviced at a kb or vb but there is no guarantee and you may end up with a lighter wallet and blue balls.
As for trying to get anything at sky lounge, as I said in past posts, if the girls don't know you, you ain't going to get squat, they are afraid of LE right now and will only get close with customers they already know. Btw, lyna is also aware of the board and reads these posts.
Its the same name and completely renovated, everything redesigned. New mama from p. C. No play, some 40-50y/o ladies.
Did a drive by this Friday afternoon and they were installing a new sign...LH is going to be called "Club You and I"
stay safe gents!
PD
Did a drive by this Friday afternoon and they were installing a new sign...LH is going to be called "Club You and I"
stay safe gents!
PDthanks for the info looking for a place to just chill out. it's so slow you can't go anywhere without some trying to make a few bucks, hustle as many drinks as they can had to chase one away next to elipse!
One girl came by me and it smelled like she didn't wipe after doing #2 and it was 2 or 3 days old. Later, two different girls came out from the room, and they hung around the door with Patti mama, and when a breeze blew in from outside, there was this smell like animal feces.
Well I haven't been inside there, but it sounds like a place where I might avoid eating the pupus! :D
Went to Camelot last night and was sitting at the bar near the entrance. One girl came by me and it smelled like she didn't wipe after doing #2 and it was 2 or 3 days old. Later, two different girls came out from the room, and they hung around the door with Patti mama, and when a breeze blew in from outside, there was this smell like animal feces. When the girls left, the smell went away. Does anyone know if the girls are opening the back door and letting customers play there?
HYDon't forget that Meadow Gold is next door. One of the worst thing I have smelled in my life has been rotten dairy products. Smelled some of it at Matsumotos in Haleiwa as someone dumped ice cream and it mixed with the rain water and it was BAD!
Also, the trash can for the three bars is in the parking lot fronting Camelot. That thing reeks at times.
Captin Crunch
02-10-08, 23:57
Went to eclipse today and seen a girl name Candy go into the room with a customer. She must play! Anyone sat with her before?
Went to eclipse today and seen a girl name Candy go into the room with a customer. She must play! Anyone sat with her before?
What does she look like?
Peckerwood
02-11-08, 00:24
Went to eclipse today and seen a girl name Candy go into the room with a customer. She must play! Anyone sat with her before?
Candy does play. She worked at LH awhile back and has just returned from the mainland.
Kalani69, she has long straight black hair. She was really skinny when she worked at LH but has since put on some weight.
PW
Captin Crunch
02-11-08, 02:14
Pw everything you said is correct. Sat with her at the back table and she said $ to have fun& $$ to go to the room. $$ is for everything. Will go back soon taste the fruits.
Candy does play. She worked at LH awhile back and has just returned from the mainland.
Kalani69, she has long straight black hair. She was really skinny when she worked at LH but has since put on some weight.
PW
Kbarlurker
02-11-08, 02:39
If this is the bartender that I think you are talking about, she is the one that I went upstairs with.
Her name is Mi Sook.
The only problem is that she has a child at home waiting for her, and I don't know if she will stay around late to play.Stopped by the other day she said her name is Shanna. Couldn't stay long will try later. She has some big funbags!
Primal Needs
02-11-08, 06:10
Don't forget that Meadow Gold is next door. One of the worst thing I have smelled in my life has been rotten dairy products. Smelled some of it at Matsumotos in Haleiwa as someone dumped ice cream and it mixed with the rain water and it was BAD!
Also, the trash can for the three bars is in the parking lot fronting Camelot. That thing reeks at times.
Lots of cats in the area, too. That feces smell was probably cat s**t.
A lot of kitchen mamas like to feed neighborhood cats, and I've always thought that was unwise for sanitary reasons.
Primal Needs
Candy does play. She worked at LH awhile back and has just returned from the mainland.
Kalani69, she has long straight black hair. She was really skinny when she worked at LH but has since put on some weight.
PWIs she the light-skinned, bartender/hostess recently brought in. IMO she's not unattractive, but she's rather plain looking. You never know.
Captin Crunch
02-12-08, 04:06
What days does she work and what time?
If this is the bartender that I think you are talking about, she is the one that I went upstairs with.
Her name is Mi Sook.
The only problem is that she has a child at home waiting for her, and I don't know if she will stay around late to play.
Honolulu Yobo
02-12-08, 04:14
What days does she work and what time?I don't know what days she works, as I haven't been there in a while during the days.
I do know that she drives a black Toyota Celica and usually parks it the front of the bar facing the park.
When I first started seeing her, she was working nights.
A lot of the night time girls are usually game for action.
HY
Hello Kitty
02-12-08, 06:53
Lastweek sunday went to check out Princes Palace. had a cute bartender. she kind of looks like that girl Kat that use to work at Sky Lounge.
The next night went to check out eclipse but nutting there so I walk to check out Green Tee. saw the bartender Teddy. know her when she use to work at touchdown. she told me eddy works at Club VIP I'm thinking "who the fuck is eddy" had to check it out. after going around five times trying to get into the parking lot from a oneway street to Club VIP. now I found out that eddy use to work at T Time. the bartender was kind of good to go.
This past Saterday went to Green Tee again. bartender? Coco? "not bad"
A lot of kitchen mamas like to feed neighborhood cats, and I've always thought that was unwise for sanitary reasons.
Yeah, in fact it is a Health Department violation. A couple of the bars in Pearl City got dinged for that a few years ago.
Went to eclipse today around 1:30 pm. Sat at the bar, bartender asked if I wanted company. Just my luck it was Candy. She has a banging body, but just a plain face. She asked if it was my first time here, I told her yea, but I use to go to the old LH. She asked to go to a booth and buy her a drink. Like all new clubs I go to, they start asking if I was LE, I had to convince her. Talked about the back room. Just wanted a bj from her. Soon as we went to the back room she still was asking if I was a cop. She has some rock hard fun bags, and a Tight ass. She let me FIV while I got BBJ. I would probably repeat. Spent $.50 including drinks and room.
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