2005 Massage Parlor Reports [Archive]

Habanada

04-22-05, 01:51

Today I felt like experimenting with another massage place with a potential for release. I felt like it yesterday, but you folks kept the ladies busy, so I couldn't get an appointment.

Decided to try AMC. I know there was Coco and Cece, but never heard of Angela. She's from Taiwan, worked at AMC for two weeks already. The lady that answered the phone said, "Angela nice girl. You like." So I gave it a try.

Angela has a nice rack. From the feel of it they felt natural. This is the first time I got to feel someone up. Anyway, started off with the usual massage, which was nice. Then on the flipside, she went to work. I told her that I haven't had sex for a long time, so I may come fast. And she said, "Come 2 times?" I agreed and shot my load, thinking that the second one would be even better.

Damn, couldn't get the second shot off. She lifted her bra and let me feel her, but no help. Lots of hugging and some kissing with tongue. Au-Right!!!

Anyway, it was fun to go to someplace different. Not knowing what to expect is exciting! Very exciting!

Okay, what's next?

John Ross

04-22-05, 07:26

Habanada,

Angela might have been working longer than the "two weeks" she told you. There were two girls that worked at JJ Spa that I swear were sisters. Anna was one and she works at AMC under a different name. I believe the other girl's name also started with an "A" and works at AMC, too. I just can't remember her name. Maybe it was Amy?

Strong Mojo

04-22-05, 23:12

John Ross

04-23-05, 00:05

Is there any connection between JJ and AMC? It seems like Cece formerly of JJ now runs AMC. I think that Coco and Angela at AMC are sisters...same build and looks. I've had both and my experience was similar to Habanada's.

SMNo connection that I know of, except they are all Chinese. Cece started at JJ and moved over to IM. Sasa also started at JJ and moved to IM. Later, Cece started AMC and Sasa moved over. Coco worked at JJ as Anna and I think Angela was Amy. I'm pretty sure they are sisters. And I think it was Coco that got busted about 6 weeks ago on an outcall.

Kamipulu

04-24-05, 17:34

I've been a regular at Smile Spa and haven't posted a while since there hasn't been anything different or exciting to post, but last night was something to write about...

Visited Smile Spa last night around 11pm. When I walked in there were three girls in the living room, two of which were about a 6 on the looks scale and one at the end that was about a 8.

Mamasan led me to room 2 and I asked for the girl with the long hair. After paying the standard entrance fee, the girl came in. She was about 5'2" and maybe 100lbs. Nice Ds, very natural.

Asked her name and she said Yuri. She began to caress and hug me then helped me get undressed. We stood at the edge of the bed and fondled each other over our clothes, then she asks to see Mr. Winky. I drop my boxers and she immediately goes down on her knees to kiss and fondle me. She starts with a BBBJ while I'm standing in front of the mirror then leads me around to the front of the bed and sits me down at the edge.

Yuri continues to stroke me while reaching for a party hat in her purse. She slips it into her mouth and expertly continues with a CBJ. This last for a couple minutes then she pushes me back on the bed and pushes me knees up and starts with some asian.

She's got my legs bent up and doing a nice job of rimming while stroking me. Then she reached for some lub and squirts some on my ass. She goes back to the CBJ and works a finger in to massage the prostate. I have to admit this was a first for me and it was a good experience.

Well this goes on for a while, at least 5 minutes, then all of a sudden she jumps on top for some asian cowgirl. For the next 15 minutes she moves from cowgirl to BJ to reverse cowgirl back to BJ then back to cowgirl. We do a little mish and I finish off doggie. Still in doggie, I slowly exit and she reached down between her legs and continues to milk me making sure every drop is squeezed out.

She then rolls over to reach for some tissues to clean up and asks me if I want to shower. I said sure. This is the first time that I have had the shower offered after the service. I like this cleaning up this way better.

Well she wraps a towel around me and we proceed to the shower room. The table shower starts off pretty standard with some mild massage. After soaping me up and rinsing me off while on my stomach, she flips me over and places a hot towel over my eyes. She then finishes the washing. She then pulls me up to a sitting position on the shower table and takes the time to wash my face and ears and give a nice faceial massage. Once that was done she dried me off and back to the room we went.

In the room she completes the drying making sure to dry all the knooks and crannys. She sits me down at the edge of the bed, pulls out a q-tip and cleans my ears. She then gets out a little sking cream and puts it on my face and again gives a nice facial massage.

She finishes the experience by dressing me completely, not allowing me to do anything myself. A nice touch. Well all the while there was no talk of money.

After I was dressed I reached for my tip, $1.5, It was overall a very nice relaxing experience. Something I'd definitely want to do again. It wasn't a true GFE but pretty close.

L: 8
S: 8
A: 9

Chingo

04-25-05, 07:58

Nice report on Yuri at SS. Good to hear that she's back from "vacation".

I thought Yuri was the shiz when it came to asian, but my session with Maya at R7, before they switched, confirmed what all the other reports had stated about her talents. While I was a bit disappointed with her looks, her technique was so good the session was over waaay too quick.

After shower/massage, she pulled me up on all fours and went to town on me while bbhj from underneath. I nearly lost it, but I managed to stop her and switch up for some cbj ... with the full pornstar style moaning and eye contact. She jumped on for some RCG and it was over, like i mentioned before, way too quick.

$.4/$1.4 - anyone know where she's working now?

S Hunter

04-26-05, 13:29

I was trying to check out Kim, but wasn't able to get through so I tried Penny at the Ginseng something or other.

Well Penny looked pretty food to me and I was all set to sample her, but after I paid her and was starting to undress, she pulled the old bait and switch on me and I ended up with Joy. I told her I wanted her, but she said "next time." Anybody have that happen to them there?

Joy is an older lady and didn't look anywhere as tasty as Penny did. She did give a pretty decent massage though and her hj was also pretty good. I definitely didn't want or ask for anything else from her.

I definitely wanted to sample the Penny goods, but am not sure I want to go back for fear of another bait and switch. Also, the shower and toilet share a room with the shower water overlapping the base of the toilet. Pretty nasty to me. Oh yeah, I didn't get a table shampoo there either. Maybe because they don't have one.

Honoluman

04-26-05, 18:48

Maya did give the 2nd best asian I ever had. i still think that Coco/Choi/Yuri was the best. I wonder if Yuri is the same as Coco/Choi/Yuri from R7? That would be good then Maya will show up there too. I think they room together as they both are from Virginia and worked at Downtown in Washington DC. If any one knows where Maya is working please let us know. Also ask Yuri if she used to work at R7 or at Downtown. I will be back from TDY next month and would love to sample them again. There is no AMP scene here in LeMoore CA. Let us know where these two lovely girls are at.

Panda B

04-27-05, 03:51

I decided to stop by Top. I got to sample the new girl. Her name is Rose. She's an older woman, probably 40-50. She's not petite like Jasmine and Sophia. She's maybe 5' 2"-5' 5", somewhere around there. She has short hair (not as short as Mia) with an average face and a little luggage on the mid section. Looks like she had a kid. She had some pretty big breasts that were real and some pretty large nips to. The TS was okay, nothing compared to Jasmine and Mia. Back in the room I got the longest BBBJ I've ever had, it had to have been over 20min. She then hopped on and rode me for a while. She seemed really into it at that point. Finally I finished up in doggie. I got a quick rinse again and left. All in all it was a pretty good session. I still miss Mia though, she gave me the best service I've ever had.

Tadhook

04-27-05, 16:30

Yeah, Mia was top notch, even though she had just average looks. She gave the best TS. Anyone know where she is now?

I decided to stop by Top. I got to sample the new girl. Her name is Rose. She's an older woman, probably 40-50. She's not petite like Jasmine and Sophia. She's maybe 5' 2"-5' 5", somewhere around there. She has short hair (not as short as Mia) with an average face and a little luggage on the mid section. Looks like she had a kid. She had some pretty big breasts that were real and some pretty large nips to. The TS was okay, nothing compared to Jasmine and Mia. Back in the room I got the longest BBBJ I've ever had, it had to have been over 20min. She then hopped on and rode me for a while. She seemed really into it at that point. Finally I finished up in doggie. I got a quick rinse again and left. All in all it was a pretty good session. I still miss Mia though, she gave me the best service I've ever had.

Love Sex 22

04-29-05, 21:03

I usually go to AMP in the afternoons , but last night visited PT at 1,30 am there where at least 10 girls and they where much better looking than the girls during than afternoon also bigger selection. Didn't want to take a chance picked up Mimi since had great time with her before. Finished the table shower and while she was drying me up started a bbj to start to tease me already. We went back to the room and she started dfk and we rolled in the bed like two lovers haven't have sex for years, she gave me a great tongue massage slowly all over my body and went to Asian to dine for few minutes and turned me over and started with bbj and turned into 69 I felt her cuming twice and she was so wet , this time she wanted me to bbfc but i declined and put the cover on, we did it in many difrent positions until i took off the cover and ask her to finish bbjcim that she did till I exploded in her mouth she didn't stop until the last drop and spit it out .Guys she is the best, But on the way out I am looking at all other girls their I say next time I have to try another girl maybe I get lucky to find another gem.

Kay Bee

04-29-05, 22:57

Well I haven't been reporting lately, but have had a couple of interesting visits. Early last week there was a (new?) korean girl, Suzie, at VIP. Tall, salon suntanned, with thick red lips on a round mouth. Hard to miss. Good attitude, and adequate service, but a little too heavy on the fake moaning. She gave some asian but its not really her forte, and also offered up DATY but the latter's not my cup of tea. Her main assets are her neat bubbly personality, long legs, and nicely shaped natural breasts. Kind of cute in her own way too. A fun session but I'm not looking for repeats.

Saw my favorite last friday at Rosemarri. This is one of the few I've seen more than once. A petite korean with natural breasts, I think she's the best looking girl Roesmarri has to offer. Not quit GFE, but she gives a subtle, gentle, and very smooth professional service. Her cat bath and body kisses are very sensual. I could definitely love her, but alas, its just not in the cards. I guess I'll have to continue on my way.

I always bath just before leaving home, because I'm not into doing it at the AMP. This gives me the full hour in the room with the girl, and a chance to get friendly and possibly introduce some variation to their well rehearsed routines.

Pattayadiver

05-02-05, 05:18

I went to smile the other afternoon around 2:00 pm. I was led in and asked for the fee, I paid and asked if I had a choice of girls. I was told no, bt she would bring someone nice. A few mins later a girl with bleached out hair arrived and she asked if it was ok, I said that I would rather have someone else and was again told to wait. Couple more mins go by and in comes another girl much better, I say thank you. She asks if I want to shower, of course, so I strip and off we go. At the shower she leads me in and shows me the shower and leaves, so I shower alone. Not fun. Once back in the room she tells me to relax and leaves, couple mins later she returns with my money and says "sorry can not". What the heck? Has this ever happened to anyone else? First time for me.

Uncle Buck

05-02-05, 13:00

Uncle got some news for you fellas. I heard through the grapevine that AMP's are being visited by cops lately. Since Mufi became the Oscar Mayor Wiener, he wants to get rid of these type of establishments. The latest visit was done at Smile Spa. I don't think there were any arrest, but just being watched for the right timing to do a bust. I got this info through a very reliable source so just giving you fellas a heads up. By the way, there were also 2 recent establishments that went down, too. Asian Massage Center (SiSi) & JJ Spa (Jenny).

Uncle Buck

Kay Bee

05-02-05, 13:17

Csincontrol,

Happened to me many moons ago at New Yorker when I was still new to the game. A super fine solid 9 (on *any* scale) walks in, and she is obviously Chinese-American, a native english speaker with a tanned super-firm gym-built body with a face and rack to match. One of the top 3 I've ever seen in an AMP. After a bunch of questions, I guess my nervousness made her nervous, and she eventually left and returned with the room fee. She said none of the girls were working at the moment. Its called fear of the law.

In the end, it was for the best. I don't neccesarily want something I can't catch in real life, coz I'm not a dreamer, so I went straight to Palm Tree (Pine Tree) and had a really cute petite korean girl.

Uncle Buck

05-02-05, 14:09

Kay Bee

05-02-05, 18:21

Any AMP's out there have any 100% Japanese from Japan? I know that back in the days Tokyo Spa had some hot Japanese girls working, but nowadays is all Koreans. I have nothing against Koreans, but I'm kinda hungry for some Japanese. Anyone can share some info? I used to pay a visit to this one Japanese that advertised on the local Pennysaver, but I think she is no longer in the business. She's pretty hot even though she got that big ass tattoo on her arm. She had some mean oral skills and the time I would be banging her, it sounded as if I was in a Japanese porn where the girl would be screaming as if she was dying.There's a pure Japanese girl at Pine Tree named Ann, but born and raised in Korea--she may as well be Korean. Pretty nice looking, tall, fair skinned, small natural breasts but uninspired massage. She is a little restrained but I enjoyed it enough. This was about 4 weeks ago.

I agree with you that we need an APB to find some nice pure J girls. Hurry up guys, I'm in the mood and might not hold out till tonight.

P.S. We all need to apply for senior membership to facilitate better communication.

Kim Chee Kane

05-02-05, 19:46

Any AMP's out there have any 100% Japanese from Japan? I know that back in the days Tokyo Spa had some hot Japanese girls working, but nowadays is all Koreans. I have nothing against Koreans, but I'm kinda hungry for some Japanese. Anyone can share some info? I used to pay a visit to this one Japanese that advertised on the local Pennysaver, but I think she is no longer in the business. She's pretty hot even though she got that big ass tattoo on her arm. She had some mean oral skills and the time I would be banging her, it sounded as if I was in a Japanese porn where the girl would be screaming as if she was dying.Yeah, it would definitely be good to have a nice variety. I love Japanese girls but hard to find them at the amps. That's pretty sad...I see a few japanese girls listed on the pennysaver. What do you think? I remember one with the tattoo but no name...She was pretty hot though. Nice body too. Any way to see if she's available again?

Asian Thrill

05-02-05, 23:46

I tried posting this a couple times...so 1 more try.

I visited Tengoku a few weeks back. I waited a long time, turned away Lucky, then a second chick and ended up with Lucky as she was the only reasonable girl there. I had her a few months ago at China and we did recognize each other. Everything was OK except she did rush me. She gave some asian which was good, but she just wanted fucked. We went at it and since she had a bit if an attitude, so I justed wanted to finsish.

Her attitude was fine before the bed part and after, but not so much during. Overall, it was unsatisfying. I tipped 1.0 and she saw me to the door.

I don't think I will repeat with her or Tengoku. There are too many good places out there.

AT

Rotten Otto

05-03-05, 14:06

Haynese

05-03-05, 23:08

Since Mufi became the Oscar Mayor Wiener, he wants to get rid of these type of establishments. The latest visit was done at Smile Spa. I don't think there were any arrest, but just being watched for the right timing to do a bust.

Uncle BuckI doubt there will be a serious effort by Mufi or anyone else to shut these places down. Why? Because there simply isn't any harm by keeping them open. I've always heard they do a bust only when someone complains, and that seem pretty rare. Other than that there can only be harm by shutting them down and pushing them underground. That's when serious trouble starts. I think Mufi and Co. are probably more worried about drugs, violent crime, and other more important issues.

Just curious, what does "The latest visit was done at Smile Spa, no arrest but just being watched for the right timing to do a bust" mean? Did the cops present themselves and say something to the mamasan?

Anyway, I will keep my eyes open and if anyone has some info on this please post.

Thanks.

Haynese

Asian Thrill

05-03-05, 23:28

Otto-san,

I am not real good with descriptions, but here goes.

About 5'2" maybe 120 lbs. She is not thin, but has a very nice shape. Very large breasts. She is fairly outgoing. The time I was her at China Spa, after we were finished, we talked. Se told me how she was gang raped when she was 14 or something like that. She also wanted to have a threesome with me and significant other (outside AMP). She is a nice girl and the rape story was sad. I guess this kind of thing can led these girls down this path.

I think just about anything is available. She can be very energentic and overall does provide good service, it is just last time there was an attitude. Generally it is not a good idea to turn away a girl, then end up selecting her. I think it gets it off to a rocky start.

Tengoku seems like a nice clean place. The shower room was a bit small. However, it was dead for 6 pm during the week (I expected more).

AT

I keep hearing about this Lucky. What does she look like? Age? Height? Performance? Tengoku is off the beaten path, which I like cause no one can see you visit it.

Lip Licker

05-04-05, 06:01

I hear you guys on the Tengoku situation. I really like that location too since it is so discreet. I also had a bad experience as I prefer younger girls with nice bodies. The three that were working when I went were all over 40 easily and none looked above a 6 in my book and I am being generous.

Buck, Thanks for the heads up. I figured the heat was bound to start up again. It tends to cycle and there haven't been any major(public) busts of those places in years.

Good luck in finding quality Japanese national girls at the AMPs. I found it easier to just pick them up at the clubs or in Waikiki.

Member #1347

05-04-05, 20:13

Dropped in at Sophia and went through the usual fair. The girl brought in was Julie, 5'4", thin and a little soft. She was average in looks and I would say in her late 30's. She said she's visiting from Seattle and has been here for a couple of weeks. No Asian, cbj, mish and cow girl, over all I would say she was on the lazy-side. Made me lead, I prefer a girl that leads.

I have one gripe about Tengoku, you can be standing outside of the main entrance for a while before you're let in.

Laters.

Asianlover4u

05-04-05, 23:43

John Ross

05-05-05, 01:22

If anyone wondered what was Losses Spa I just seen an advertisement on the Korean station. It showed how the inside looked and said it was just for women. Too bad I would have liked to check out the women in there.My gf goes there and so do a lot of KB girls. I have no idea how women can spend 5 hours there! I mean you get a massage and a body scrub, spend some time in the sauna, hang and drink coffee and eat some snacks, but for 5 hours! Yes, I'm ranting cause I dropped off my gf and 3 of her friends at 8 pm and came back to get them at 1 am! I killed time by hanging with the guys at KBs for that 5 hours, but it got a little boring.

Member #2650

05-05-05, 08:21

Well I haven't been reporting lately, but have had a couple of interesting visits. Early last week there was a (new?) korean girl, Suzie, at VIP. Tall, salon suntanned, with thick red lips on a round mouth. Hard to miss. Good attitude, and adequate service, but a little too heavy on the fake moaning. She gave some asian but its not really her forte, and also offered up DATY but the latter's not my cup of tea. Her main assets are her neat bubbly personality, long legs, and nicely shaped natural breasts. Kind of cute in her own way too. A fun session but I'm not looking for repeats.I really like Suzie. Saw her back at the old VIP when her hair was darker, and I have to disagree with your "not her forte" comment because she went to town with asian on me. She also really went wild for DATY and receiving asian. I had that sloppy face feeling after our session and had to wash my face and rinse my mouth thoroughly afterwards. She has a move that I find odd where she grabs your foot as you are laying down, and she is standing and rubs your foot on her puss. Has anyone else experienced this with other providers? She has a couple of tats also, but they are pretty tasteful. I think she is hot, but to each his own. I will repeat now I know that she's back from her vacation.

2650

Honoluman

05-05-05, 18:19

I like Suzie also as she gives a good asian. Not as good as Maya but still in the same range. I would never give a working girl asian unless I had a cover or lots of alcohol to swallow when I am finished. You never know what has been in there or what has come (cum) out. One thing we forget is that we need to treat these girls with respect as they do thinks my wife would never do and smile afterwards. I think that most of these girls would never allow you to cum in their mouth unless they had a condum on. Too many chances of getting or catching something they don't want or deserve. Suzie is a keeper for us all so treat her right and I am sure she will continue to treat us the same way. When they start the fake moaning i just start laughing and they stop and go shush as they don't like us to laugh too loud. The owner / manager thinks something else is going on. Just my thoughts on a good working girl.

Member #3111

05-06-05, 05:26

Took advantage of the $10 off coupon in the Pennysaver and paid a lunch time visit. Got a girl named Yoko..really petite and skinny. She was approx 5' and lucky to hit 90 lbs soaking wet. She was very tan, light colored hair (which I like), A cups but with great nipples. Table shower was okay. Followed by a short massage..followed by the standard CBJ, DATY, Mish, finish in doggie. Not bad but I wouldn't repeat.

L6.5
A7
S6

I'm curious to find out if anyone ever "asks" for asian? Do the girls know what the term means if I do ask? How does one politely ask a girl to stick her tongue up their ass. I know they do this for a living but it still seems a bit crude. Thoughts?

Kay Bee

05-06-05, 12:17

Yeah, Suzie is a sweatheart. I guess I failed to convey that adequately in my report. Also agree with Honoluman about treating the girls with respect. The money we spend is insignificant compared to the lives they lead. There are two girls that I really like and respect, and where they are concerned, money means nothing to me.

As far as DATY, I pass on that activity in favor of safe sex practices. Its a personal preference/decision made in consideration for my normal sex life.

I like AMPs because I'm kind of a freak, and really enjoy a lot of variety. I have reached a point where I am only looking for girls that are visually at the same level as the normal girls I date. For those, personality is primary and performance is second. All they have to do is lay there looking pretty and I'm happy.

Lip Licker

05-07-05, 04:53

3111,

Did Yoko have long curly hair with a body that was not very curvy(no hourglass figure)? She kinda sounds like the Yoko that used to be at Pine Tree but I don't remember her being tan at the time.

KB,

I know Exactly what you mean. You can be perfectly happy in a relationship but you still want variety. I don't know how a man can just have one woman for more than a few months. The only bad thing about dating good looking women is that it becomes more difficult to find better looking ones at the AMPs. I've recently found myself walking out of a lot of places cause the girls they had were not good looking enough. It is getting pretty difficult to find those gems.

Member #2650

05-07-05, 10:36

3111,

Try sticking your butt in the air if they get anywhere close to it with their mouth, or you could give it to them first then say, "now it's my turn."

KB,

I think you are far from a freak. The fact that you have standards and rules show that you are somewhat decent. I think the freaks are the ones who give asian, daty and do all the bareback stuff with all the providers are the freaks or just plain suicidal. Did I mention i use dental dams ;-)

Lip,

I think we all need variety. It's part of our evolutionary makeup as males to perpetuate our species. I also think that there can be those special girls that just "get you" and are just your type enough that make you want to be with only them for years. I think it is rare, but that is the reason I keep looking for the right ones by doing all these other ones. He, he.

Member #3111

05-08-05, 07:01

3111,

Did Yoko have long curly hair with a body that was not very curvy(no hourglass figure)? She kinda sounds like the Yoko that used to be at Pine Tree but I don't remember her being tan at the time..Could be her, she has almost no hips. Very slender and small framed. She also had long curly hair..kinda bleached looking, but she had it tied up so I couldn't tell exactly how long.

Honoluman

05-09-05, 18:38

Hypo Luxa

05-10-05, 04:21

Saw on Channel 9 (7) that they're going to be doing am exposé on the Massage Parlours that operate as brothels tomorrow night (Tuesday.)

Be Careful!

John Ross

05-10-05, 06:05

Hypo Luxa

05-10-05, 17:09

Stopped in and saw Rose. Older Korean (40s) with 4 in looks, 3 in body, but with big breastesses, and big ol' nips. Her service was top notch though. She sucked, and sucked and sucked BB. We went at it in lots of positions REALLY hard. After I came, she cleaned me up with a towel and starting sucking, and sucking and sucking again. She put on another condom and we went at it again. This time was for her and she rode me like a bronco. I pounded as hard as any girl I've pounded before. She LOVED it. Finally came again in doggie.

After that, she gave me a long massage on my hands and feet with baby oil, then a quick massage on the rest of my body. Overall about two hours there. 40/160 was the damage.

Funny, when she was sucking me, she was slapping my dick all over her face.

She ain't much to look at, but she'll fuck your legs off!

Rotten Otto

05-11-05, 04:29

FYI. KGMB is doing a report on Relaxation places on the Tuesday nite news at 10. Looks like they went undercover and taped these places. Now there's gonna be more exposure at the AMPs as people will know what they are and will be looking out for cars parked there. Lets be careful out there.Just saw the news bit. They sent an "undercover" guy with hidden camera to Smile Spa, Hula Relaxation, and Evergreen. Once past the doors, the girls negotiate the price and say what they offer in general terms. Then a short interview with a vice detective. Nothing groundbreaking, although I'll bet the AMP's will start getting busy now and busts will be more often, at least for now.

Member #2650

05-11-05, 04:43

Just to let you know that Yuri is the old Coco/Choi from R7. She went on vacation to San Francisco a couple of weeks ago. She was there with her friend Ruby who used to wrok and own R7 with her. I think Maya will be working there too if she is not there already. I have yet to see her there but I did see Yuri there. She gives a great asian. I could just go with that and her BJ both BB and CB. I found a picture of her from R7 so I will try to post it. I need to make it smaller. She is one hard working girl but if you get to know her will treat you very well. Just don't trust her. She is in her late 30's and some wear is starting to show. But for the money she is one of the best.Are you talking about the very cute short petite Yuri being late 30's? I've seen her with and without makeup, and she can't be more than early 30's at most. She looks about 23. I know the Ruby at Smile is easily late 30's early to mid 40's, but Yuri late 30's?? I find that hard to believe. Either way, Yuri is a looker and gives great service. I recommend her for a try.

Honoluman

05-11-05, 08:55

Very interesting show. I think they had the wrong reporter going around who was not versed in what to say or do. I don't think he reads this page. It looks like the girls at SS knew the reporter or had some idea. They played it pretty smart, no happy ending. It is funny that in 4 years the LE has only arrested 18 woman for illegal acts. It leads me to believe that they will let them be here as they are safer than having SW's. They know the AMP's are clean and so are the girls. I have heard when they visited the old R7 they just gave the girls tickets for giving massage or shower with out a license and the owner a ticket for allowing it. Very interesting show. Now lets see what our Mayor and LE do. I don't think too much will be done. I feel they know that these girls help the economy too much. They spend money, pay cash for everything. Give generously to church and to charity. (yes I know a few of these girls and they do). They bring in tourists, Japense and now Korean who come to spend money. Just my thoughts on the show and the scene here.

Ljohnson

05-11-05, 15:52

I'll be in Honolulu in late June for a few days. I have reviewed this Forum and am having trouble finding locations and prices. I'm looking for AMPs where I can get a massage as well as a HJ and/or BJ. Do any of them do outcall? Service in my hotel room would be great.

Where are they and how much should I expect to pay. If you can just give me a ballpark figure, or a reasonable range, I'll appreciate it. I'm only interested in Asian girls, the younger and prettier the better.

Thanks,

Ljohnson

Smoke & Mirrors

05-11-05, 18:26

Stacy Loe sloe@kgmb9.com
It's an open secret in Honolulu. Businesses advertising massages, but offering much more to men who walk through their doors.

Tonight, we expose a lucrative side of the illegal sex industry in Hawaii.

They used to be massage parlors, now they are called "relaxation salons." Whatever the name, police say they're nothing more than sex shops.

They advertise in the sports pages, promising beautiful girls and offering relaxation or therapy. But our undercover investigation found that inside some of these salons, they're offering sexual favors for cold hard cash.

"There's no question in my mind that I was solicited for sex," one man said.

We sent this "customer" into 3 salons last week carrying a hidden camera. At the first, Hula Relaxation, he paid a $50 entrance fee and was led into a dark room with a bed.

He was soon joined by a young woman who quickly told him what he'd get if he spent more money.

"A hand job, 50 dollars," she said.

"50 dollars?" he asked.

"But I'm not gonna be naked. We can have sex if you want to," she said.

"I can have sex? How much is that?" "$150."

"I was told that with money I could buy pretty much any sexual act of position or favor that I wanted to buy," he said.

At Evergreen Relaxation, the hostess suggested right away that for a tip, our customer could get service from a young woman.

"They give you a shower, then they service you and you give them tip," he said.

When he was in the room, the young woman asked him how much money he had to spend and told him what he'd get for it.

"You give me $200," she said.

"What's that for?" he asked.

"I'll take care of everything for you," she responded.

"For $200 dollars sex yeah?" he asked.

"Everything, everything," she said.

At Smile Spa, it was a different story. For a $50 fee, he was offered a sauna and jacuzzi, nothing more.

"Can I pay for a happy ending?" he asked.

"What's that mean?" she replied.

"Maybe touch?" he said.

"No, I'm sorry," she replied.

With our cameras rolling, we went back to the parlors that blatantly solicited sex for money. At Evergreen, we talked to a woman who said she was the manager.

"Why are your women selling sexual favors for cash?" we asked. "Oh my god, excuse me," the woman responded.

She insisted her girls only offer relaxation, even after we told her we caught it on tape.

When we tried to talk to another evergreen employee, she gave us the finger.

"Here, video camera that," she said.

The response wasn't as hostile at Hula Relaxation.

"Some of your women offered sexual favors for money. Why are your women doing that?" we asked.

"I'm sorry I'm new here so I don't know," the employee responded.

When we tried to question her further, she shut the door.

"In my experience I have yet to see a relaxation parlor that did not conduct some type of prostitution activity," HPD Lt. Walter Ozeki.

Each week, police send undercover officers into these parlors. Last year, more than a third of all the prostitution arrests they made, were inside the salons. But Lieutenant Ozeki says even with evidence of illegal activity, they have a tough time stopping it.

We'll shut one place down and they'll pop up someplace else. And it might be the same people involved or same ownership but there's no way for us to curb these places from reopening again," he said.

And police reluctantly admit -- as long as there's a demand, the parlors will remain a part of Honolulu's seedy landscape. Police say they've raided all 3 parlors we investigated and arrested women for prostitution. A total of 18 arrests in the last 4 years.

CatchSumWaves

05-12-05, 08:10

Thought I'd check out VIP's after getting all shit-faced last night.I haven't been there since they first reopened and saw Suzie for the first time.

This girl has great attitude a fine body and let me tell you she went to town on my ass when she gave me asian(tongue,mouth,lips,nose,fingers coming up after what seemed like 10-15 mins with a sloppy grin). She did the usual bbbj,mish,cg,doggie and we were both really into it trying different things but I guess I was having a hard/ soft time cumming because of all the alcohol.

She was really determined to make me pop so she went to the old reliable hj and with a little bbbj for good measure to keep me going.But after 25+ mins. of trying and telling me things like " I want you cum my face" and stuff like that I still couldn't cum.We got the time over knock at the door. Now here's the interesting part I said in a joking manner "better call mama and let her watch maybe then I can cum." She said "really" and jump off me and called mama I thought wtf might be kind off kinky having mamasan watch.

But I forgot that there was a younger mama (kind of a cutie) in her early 30.She came in while suzie was going at it and said "what's the problem." Suzie and her spoke in korean and she said "aahhhh" and instead of just watching jumped right in and started stroking me off while suzie was sucking me all over. It was a pretty kool experience to say the least having 2 women trying to get you off. I finally came:) After Suzie Kept saying "special mama never make for anybody."

This ones' a winner guys will definitely repeat especially since she was dripping with all this sweat from trying so hard to make me cum with her and maybe mamasan too. Oh also, suzie is a little heavy on the fake moaning side and all but at the moment I didn't care.

Candy Addict

05-12-05, 17:58

Ahhh, it must be May again. I've seen this pattern for years in every community I've lived in. The TV ratings services (Nielsen, Arbitron, etc.) periodically conduct ratings "sweeps" to gather detailed viewing statistics. Sweeps for local stations (as opposed to the networks) are typically conducted twice a year (usually May and November).

During the sweeps months, the local news stations will often resort to some sensationalism, often involving prostitution, to boost their ratings. In Washington, DC, it's become something of an art-form and even the DC Police have gotten in on the act by scheduling major crackdowns during sweeps months, and letting camera crews tag along. It generates ratings for the news folks, and good PR for the police department, except with mongers like us! Once the sweeps period is over, the cops go back to business as usual, and the TV news folks go back to reporting traffic, weather, and the occasional homicide. We can probably look forward to similar activities again in November.

I agree with Rotten Otto that this will probably generate more business for the spas in the short-run, though some might be more cautious than usual for a while too. As for us, the usual advice still applies: be careful, be discrete, and have fun!

Happy mongering!

Geeko

05-12-05, 23:17

Checked out VIP again last week and saw Miki this time. She is a fairly cute Korean. She had a nice body, with an enhanced rack, but not overly big, but proportioned to her body. She said she was 25, but who can tell really. Average table shower, back in the room, got naked and proceeded to give a massage that was ok, a little hard and I would rather cut to the chase. Standard cbj, asked her to flip into 69 but she said no, got on for cg, then we went at it in doggie and mish. Had a hard time cumming so she pulled the cover off and gave me a hj. While doing so she moved in different positions, lying next to me, knelling, standing over, then squatting over me giving me the chance to taste her. Overall, average service, but she had a good attitude and was fun. Said that she was going to move over to Arisoo Relaxation when it opened, so she is probably there by now as I think they opened on the 10th.

Member #2650

05-13-05, 07:25

Went the other day and saw a new girl named Gina. She has been here a couple of weeks from Korea via Chicago. Very pretty face and pretty tall (around 5'7"). Nice natural A's or maybe B's if she's lucky. Pretty standard service, everything covered, but she gives a nice rubdown in the shower. Would repeat again in a pinch because she's so pretty and pretty friendly too.

2650

CatchSumWaves

05-13-05, 23:34

Hey Geeko,

Where's Arisoo Relaxation supposed to be. Clue us fellow mongers in.

Thanks,

Catchsumwaves

Luv Nooke

05-14-05, 09:44

Stopped at Pine Tree last Monday night. The selection was great but I wanted to see what else might be available so I continued shopping. While I was there a young white girl seemed to be showing up for work. If I didn't find anything better I was already impressed with the looks of the girls there so I knew I would return.

Luv Nooke

05-14-05, 09:51

Ended up at Smile Spa on Monday night. Went in, the mamasan asked if I had been there before of course. I hadn't but you have to lie and say "yes, of course." Then sheasked what girl I had seen and I just ignored her. She brought me to a room and asked which girl I wanted. I just handed her the $50 and mentioned how great all the girls looked tonight.

So in walks this young cutie. She's got really large breasts for an asian girl and looks pretty young too. Her name is Sandy. She speaks English really well too. Sandy said she is 27 and is a Korean student in the area. I thought she was really cute too. She told me she has been in the business for less than a month. So I guess that's why she still has a great attitude.

We had an absolutely great time. All activities were covered and there was no rimming but she did enjoy DATY. She probably won't be there too long, but who knows. If you get a chance see Sandy. I had a repeat visit with her later in the week and I rarely see the same girl more than once.

ganks808

05-14-05, 10:16

Anyone been to the new Pinky? It used to be called Rainbow 7, I'm wondering if Maya is still there.

Asianlover4u

05-14-05, 12:42

Went to Ohana the past weekend and had a new girl Nana, Kim was not working there anymore. Nana started with a good massage and then things got interesting. She started licking my shaft, I started sucking on her breasts and I could've goten BBFS but decided not to as I was afraid I might catch something. So I ended up with a hand job. But for those who like older women she is one who has a good body and her face is on the nicer side, she seems to be willing to go all the way.

Honoluman

05-14-05, 18:13

I hear she is at SS. Remember she changed her name to Chrisitine as too many people kept writing about her here. She rooms with Choi/Coco/Yumi in a condo near the beach. Buut I also heard they both maybe working in S.F. Who knows. You find one you find the other. They owner R7 with a couple other working girls but lost the lease. Let us know if you find them. They are not at Pink.

Geeko

05-14-05, 19:21

She described it as the one behind Rock Za. I see in the latest PennySaver that is is 1698 Kaiauokalani Way. (Or kitty corner to Hawaiian Brians). Phone: 946-2827. They are running a coupon for $10 off with the ad.

I haven't been yet, but if you check it out, post a report and let us know how it was.

MadCocker

05-15-05, 00:30

With my new job I took a huge pay cut and have only been living and dreaming through your guys's stories. Finally saved up some cash and headed to Ohana. I had Nana. Started out with a so-so massage; Kim and Julie have way better technique and pressure, but in the extras department is where she shines. Started out with a light finger touch massage of my chest, arms, and legs. Then she started sucking my nipples and off came the towel, her top and her pants. Rubbed her implanted titties on my shaft and balls and then climbed on top. She started grinding her pelvis on my groin while jacking me off. Watching her was awesome. Although she in on the older side she has a certain beauty about her that had me awe-struck. I look forward to going back again when I save up enough money again.

If what Asian975 said is true about Kim leaving I'm a little sad. I really liked Kim's massage technique. She could get out all the knots and kinks in my back. If she pops up at some where else please let me know.

lyerlyer

05-15-05, 07:29

Just FYI,

Asian975 and madcocker: Kim didn't leave Ohana for good, she's just on vacation and should be back in a week or two.

lyerlyer

05-15-05, 07:35

John Ross

05-16-05, 02:10

BJ Hawaii

05-16-05, 04:07

Just FYI,

Asian975 and madcocker: Kim didn't leave Ohana for good, she's just on vacation and should be back in a week or two.More FYI - Kim should be back tomorrow.

kataichimpo

05-16-05, 05:13

Does anyone know where Laura from the Old Rainbow 7 is now? She went back to NY in February. Said she was going to come back, but then Rainbow 7 closed or switched ownership. Anyone remember her or know where she went?

Member #2438

05-16-05, 11:06

Has any one been to 350? Just want to know, is it worth to stop by for relaxation?

Thanks in advance

Hawaii Man

05-16-05, 14:05

Hey guys, there is a lot of experience here on the wsg, so who better to ask than you.

I have used the massage places in the past, but I am not a big fan of spending my time in those little rooms, with the infamous "knock at the door".

If you find a provider that you enjoy, has anyone ever had success at meeting the girl outside of normal working hours? Can you make arrangements for a few hours and a couple of pops, and if you can, what has been your experience with how much you have to pay for 1-2 hours time with one of these girls?

What I would like to do is meet them at my home or a hotel for a nice long afternoon romp. Kind of puts a smile on your face for the rest of the day, doesn't it !

Honoluman

05-16-05, 18:20

I heard that she is now working at Nirvana or 4 Seasons in Stamford, CT. Said too many problems with the scene in Hawaii. Ask Yuri at SS she may know exactly which place or where she is. Good luck.

Quickshoot

05-16-05, 19:46

Year ago, in the late 90's I met a girl at Oriental Relaxation on McCully/Kapiolani. We got along real good. After about 3 visits to Oriental, we decided to meet on the outside. Sometimes we would meet for breakfast or lunch and then spend 4 to 6 hours together. Never gave her money for the actual time we spent, but I would give her some spending money every once in a while. Personally, I preferred this type of arrangement, because it was much more relaxing rather than the "hurried" feeling. The relationship ended after about 1 1/2 years.

Hey guys, there is a lot of experience here on the wsg, so who better to ask than you.

I have used the massage places in the past, but I am not a big fan of spending my time in those little rooms, with the infamous "knock at the door".

If you find a provider that you enjoy, has anyone ever had success at meeting the girl outside of normal working hours? Can you make arrangements for a few hours and a couple of pops, and if you can, what has been your experience with how much you have to pay for 1-2 hours time with one of these girls?

What I would like to do is meet them at my home or a hotel for a nice long afternoon romp. Kind of puts a smile on your face for the rest of the day, doesn't it !

Smoke & Mirrors

05-16-05, 22:26

Is there a tiny girl in hawaii? 4'11- 5' What's her name?

Kay Bee

05-16-05, 22:57

Has any one been to 350? Just want to know, is it worth to stop by for relaxation?

Thanks in advanceI've been there a couple of times in the past 3 months, last time a month or so ago. Both times the girls were cute, nice, and slim. Can't talk about it too much since I did not ask their names, and from what I've come to understand, some people here may suffer mental anguish or something along those lines if the girls' names are not disclosed.

Anyway, the last time I was there, it was a bit irritating. It was about 9:00PM and unlike my first visit, there were no girls sitting in front. There were no customers there either. Mama leads me to the room and the room is warm--air con had not been running for some time. I'm ready to leave, but mama tells me she will bring a special girl. The girl shows up, she's very very nice, so mama gets the room fee. Girl comes back and I have to send her to tell mama to turn on the air con. The air turns on, but really low. At about the 45 min mark, the air goes off. Luckily I'm finished already because it never did get cool in there.

I can't say if it was just a slow night, or what. I think 350 is worth a look see as long as you can stand up for your right to go somewhere else if there are no girls that meet your needs, or if they are in full energysaver mode.

Jack First

05-17-05, 01:25

Haven't posted in awhile, but I'm back again. After seeing the positive reviews about SS, I decided to go back and try it after a long hiatus. I was boycotting the place because after I finally filled up my member card and earned my free session, they rudely told me that it wasn't good anymore! With all the other competitors out there, I decided they would just lose my business, and my recommendations to go there for the time being.

Phew, sorry enough venting - I just believe in good customer service.

I think I went too early in the day(around 4:30PM on a weekday), and the selection was pretty poor. I had a girl that was around late 20's, that for some reason looked Chinese, even though she said she was Korean, with very large boobs. The boobs were fun to play with, but the rest of it was mechanical and rushed, even though I was the only customer there(or so it seemed). I wouldn't repeat, but I was wondering if the Hana that has been spotted there - is that the Hana from the former NYNY?

Member #1062

05-17-05, 02:31

I went to Rosemarri last night, Sunday, and found a nice line up.

I love going to places that offer choices up front and picked a thai girl called Didi. Very cute, nice bod but she had large enhanced breasts (not my style). I’d guess about 30yr.

It was an average session. Nothing to write home about. Looks 6, Body 5, Attitude 6, Overall 5. Will not repeat.

kataichimpo

05-17-05, 04:28

Thanks man. Damn, I really liked her. I don't think she got along with the r7 manager too. I had her number but she disconnected it, then now I think someone else has that number.

I heard that she is now working at Nirvana or 4 Seasons in Stamford, CT. Said too many problems with the scene in Hawaii. Ask Yuri at SS she may know exactly which place or where she is. Good luck.

Bear Foxtrot

05-17-05, 04:32

Hey guys,

Rainbow 7 sounds like a great place, but I'm having a lot of difficulty finding the website. Can anyone tell me where it is?

Thanks,

Alexios

Member #2650

05-17-05, 05:57

Has any one been to 350? Just want to know, is it worth to stop by for relaxation?

Thanks in advanceYou should read the past posts. I posted a review a few months ago as did a couple of others, but I think it's worth a stop. I had a girl named Happy who had some nice boobs and gave great service.

2650

Member #2650

05-17-05, 14:19

Hey guys,

Rainbow 7 sounds like a great place, but I'm having a lot of difficulty finding the website. Can anyone tell me where it is?

Thanks,

AlexiosThere's no more Rainbow 7. Most of the girls went to the VIP or other AMPs like Smile and Rappongi.

Member #2650

05-17-05, 14:24

I was wondering if the Hana that has been spotted there - is that the Hana from the former NYNY?Your memory serves you well. That is indeed the Hana from the New Yorker.

2650

Geeko

05-18-05, 00:28

I stopped by Rosemarri last week and spent some time with Didi. 1062: I'm pretty sure that she is all natural- not an enhanced rack. From the way they feel- oh so good!! Just thinking of that brings a smile to my face. But a good indication is how they lie when she is on her back, or how they hang when she is doing cg. I would agree with you that the service was just average - for me I would repeat based on those incredible tits, but that's just me. I remember reading someone's post awhile back,I think when she was at VIP before moving over and they said it was borderline pse. If that's the case maybe I caught her on a bad day, I'll go back and see if things improve. As always I guess the old ymmv applies. Will report back on my findings, if not to just relive and remember the experience when I'm done.

Xrs5879

05-18-05, 02:20

Your memory serves you well. That is indeed the Hana from the New Yorker.

2650The Hana right before they closed, or the Hana from a couple years ago?

Six Cents

05-18-05, 02:22

This place is pretty good. I saw 3 of the 6 girls there and they were all pretty hot. Of the three, I had a girl named Judy. No extras like BBBJ or rim, but lot of ball licking and overall nice service. I think she's about 35 or so, but she cleans up well with thick makeup, so I don't really know her true age; looks like 25 though. Also, she's about 5'0 and weighs <100, but has decent curves. Her tits were nicely-shaped B-cups.

Overall:
L=9 (heavy makeup? Who cares? She's hot)
S=9
Damage=40/140

CatchSumWaves

05-18-05, 07:24

Stopped by Arisoo after Geeko made the posting. Nice quaint little place adjacent to Mika off of Kapiolani.Knocked on the door and was greeted by a hot mamasan (Korean in her 30's with blonde hair). She said hi and asked if I had been to this kine place before. I said to her,"point in any direction and I can tell you which massage places are there." She said ,"what I don't understand." I told her never mind I just went to VIP's last week and saw Suzie very good girl.I asked the mamasan if she was available but she no not tonight baby. "Ok wait inside room I bring nice girl."

In came a girl named Mickey cute with rocking ass nice body but fake tits. She does the usual questions says ok come back. She came back and then gave me a strange look and said how come you didn't take off clothes. I told her no need take shower I take shower 1 hour ago. "You don't want take shower then what in want do." I this point I thinking that maybe she thinks I'm LE and is all weirded out because I broke her routine. Now I'm feeling all weird too. We make small talk but the vibe is just not there she ask if I want new girl and I say yea maybe better.

Mama comes in ask what's the problem she says "oh because you didn't take off clothes that's why". "She think you policeman but I told her you good customer." And proceeds to take off my clothes says nice body. "I bring back Mickey she very good girl you know." Yea looks nice but."But no worry I make sure she take good care everything you waiting hea." Shuts the door then in comes Mickey. "Everything ok." " I dunno you have to make better you make feeling bad." Ok ok don't worry I make everything good baby."

Her attitude changes for the better gives me a sensual rub down almost soapland style. Her performance is entheastic with one of the best cbj that I have had the pleasure to receive. We do the regular but then I get a little tried so we rest for a little bit. So we start talking and all. She said she just came for LA and has been working since the opening(about a 1 week or so). Then she ask about my experience and I get to talking about what happen last week at VIP's(read my earlier review if you haven't 05/12/05). Some how gets the idea that the only way I can get off is to have mama come help too. I tell her no, no but she runs off to get mama. I'm thinking hell yea why not let mama come in(double the fun 4 the same price).

This time Mickey comes in with mama. Mama says,"ok got to make for special customer yea." Yea that's right," but this time mama gets naked and start going at it in tandem with Mickey. Perfect ass in my face from Mickey and mama tits shaking on my tip as she's give me a hj. All of this as I'm watching from the perspective of the bed or the full lenth mirror on the oppsite side of the wall.Man it just gets better and better guys thats 2 for 2.

Afterward we got to sit on the couch and hang out just a little bit. Got to see the line up and was pretty impressed I would say 7's or 8's out of the girls there not bad for a new place and the there's a .4 grand-opening special going for how long I don't know.

Happy Mongering!

Strong Mojo

05-18-05, 12:50

Okay guys.

I haven't posted or visited in a while...funds have been redirected for a while, but I'm looking to get back into the groove.

There's been a lot of renaming of MP's and transfers of girls, so I'm a little out of touch. I have been reading the forum regularly, so I have some handle on what's what.

Question posed to all is which location provides the following:

- Younger providers (20's).
- Attractive (minimum of 7 on looks)
- Performance (minimum 7 on talent)
- Location (would prefer a discreet entry)

Arisoo sounds pretty good, but always feel like either my car or I will get jacked in that area.

I know that everyone has their own scale for ratings, but I'd still appreciate the information.

SM

Luv Nooke

05-18-05, 19:57

Mojo,

I had a great time at Smile Spa. They are out of the way but I don't feel unsafe there at all. The girl I had was 26 and cute and a great performer.

zenkai

05-19-05, 00:12

I went to Smile Spa this past Friday and was turned away at the door, 'no girls' apparently. I guess even though the news story ended up saying that they were not into anything illegal there, ;-) they're not taking any chances. I don't know if this is a one time thing or if they plan on moving but, I hope not it was a pretty upstanding establishment, provided you were not stupid enough to pull up in a Cab.

Asianlover4u

05-20-05, 04:31

I went to Top Relaxation and had ? I forgot her name but, we started out with a table shower. In the table shower, I was kind of suprised she took off all her clothes and gave me a body to body shower. It was an awesome experience, she had a decent face and rack, but a slight stomach. After we got into the room, she started licking me from head to toe and started a pretty good cbj. After we did a little doggie, mish and ended with some cowgirl. All in all a good experience.

Member #2650

05-20-05, 13:20

The Hana right before they closed, or the Hana from a couple years ago?I think the one from a couple of years ago, but I think she was there right before they closed too. Can you describe both, then I can tell you exactly which one?

2650

Asian Explorer

05-21-05, 03:53

Matisse

05-21-05, 15:42

Guys,

Just got back from a visit to Pinky's, which I guess used to be Rainbow 7. I asked for Maya or Christine. Mama said there was no Christine, but that there was a Maya and she gave good service. Maya was probably 35, a little bit of a belly, B cups with implants.

She did ball licking and that was pretty good. No Asian was offered. Some moaning, which I'm pretty sure was fake. Interestingly she was wet. As I was doing her doggy, she was rubbing her clit, so I guess there was some excitement.

I don't think this is the Maya others have mentioned.

Anybody know if the Maya/Christine know for Asian is still there?

L: 7
A: 8
S: 8I heard she was at Smile and using the name Christine. I haven't anything definite, yet. I tried going to Smile and asking for Yuri or ANgie, but mama said that they were "on vacation" and had no return dates. I saw one other provider sitting there, but it wasn't Maya/Christine. If you find her let us know.

Hapaman

05-22-05, 04:54

Honoluman

05-22-05, 10:19

Does anyone still have her cell number. It started with a 571-241 but I can't read the rest of it. It is a cell from Virginia. If you have it call her and ask her where she working now. Don't tell her you want to post it on the internet. I think she is trying to not be posted. She was surprised when I asked for her as Christine as I have only known her previously as Maya not Christine. I told her a friend told me but she guessed it was the internet. I need a good asian and she was about the best. Who else is out here giving a good to great asian? Let me know as I love it. She used to stroke me as she was doing it and I almost always came but she knew when to slow down and just suck my balls. I think she made me grow a little larger and straighter with her action (suction?). Oh how I long for her.

Member #1062

05-22-05, 11:25

Kay Bee

05-22-05, 11:29

Who else is out here giving a good to great asian? Let me know as I love it. She used to stroke me as she was doing it and I almost always came but she knew when to slow down and just suck my balls. I think she made me grow a little larger and straighter with her action (suction?). Oh how I long for her.Tomato at Pine Tree has solid technique. Mid/late 30s, okay in the looks dept. (you can tell she was really cute in her 20s), and is a nice person so she will probably comply with your wishes.

Xrs5879

05-23-05, 02:35

I think the one from a couple of years ago, but I think she was there right before they closed too. Can you describe both, then I can tell you exactly which one?

2650I cant really remember nice face nice body good size rack and the best attitude ever she actually gave me a freebie once. I gotta go see her again.

Devorzon

05-23-05, 09:56

Went to Arisoo first but they were closed (around 2:30am), so I headed to Golden Queen on Ward. The hot mamasan (does anyone know if she services guys?) greeted me at the door. Their were 4 Koreans on the couch, all around average to above average looks. I picked Mimi-- she's korean, about 5'1" , 105 lbs with pretty big boobs. Kind of on the skinny side. I paid the mamasan $40 in the room and then went to the shower with Mimi. Shower room was small but clean. Got an average shower and massage, nothing special. She allows daty , but didn't want me to suck on her nipples to hard. CBJ followed by missionary, then doggy. Overall good experience but nothing really that would make me want to return.

Honoluman

05-23-05, 13:56

Does anyone have the number for Pink? I could not get it in the web yellow pages. Aslo the manager at Queen is pretty hot does she fill in when they are busy? I could go for a spin with her.

Member #2438

05-23-05, 14:43

Are you talking about the very cute short petite Yuri being late 30's? I've seen her with and without makeup, and she can't be more than early 30's at most. She looks about 23. I know the Ruby at Smile is easily late 30's early to mid 40's, but Yuri late 30's?? I find that hard to believe. Either way, Yuri is a looker and gives great service. I recommend her for a try.My friend, Are we talking about the same Yuri at 350?

Thanks again.

BJ Hawaii

05-23-05, 16:29

I like Korean ladies as much as the next guy, but I'm looking for other asian flavors.
Can anyone recommend an AMP or massage with extras with thai or filipina girls? Or maybe an independent escort?

Please post or PM me.

Evelyn at IM is OK but a little old for my preference.
Does Didi at Rosemarri work afternoons?
PS: Is Tomato still at Pinetree?
Thanks.Sophias on Young St. has Thai girls. The old Milky Way had this hot young PI/Thai mix awhile back before they moved to Sheridan. I doubt she is still working there.

Kim Chee Kane

05-23-05, 18:33

Thai girls. I want to experience that. There are too much Korean girls at the AMPs...

I remember checking out Sophias awhile back. I had Nicole and this viet girl. What kind of feedback are the girls over there now?

Didi is the only Thai girl that sounds pretty interesting to experience.

Be safe.

Honoluman

05-24-05, 16:07

Yuri is 37 years old. She may not look it but yes she is. Talk about one who does not look her age try Maya, 39. Yes she is 39. I had to look real hard as I always thought she was no older than 30. These girls have been working for awhile in the business and no matter how much night cream, makeup they put on they are still getting old.Yes they don't look it. They also don't always act the age as they hang around younger working girls that keep them in a different world. They don't grow old as we do but it will catch up one day. Just remember that you love them for the hour then go back to the real world. Age is relative to your mind but your body will age. I am heading over to Pink to see who is working there and see how it is. Let you know tomorrow.

Geeko

05-25-05, 00:06

There was a Thai girl by the name of Lisa at the now closed Rainbow 7. She gave pretty good service, does anyone know if she is still around somewhere? I haven't seen her since last summer I think.

Xrs5879

05-26-05, 02:30

I heard from a girl at PT that 3 of them got arrested last Thursday night. She said something about illegal massage. But I saw her Friday night and she didn't even ask if I was a cop.

S Hunter

05-26-05, 02:59

Hey Gang,

I haven't posted in a few weeks, but here's the recap...

Went to Ohana a couple of times. Saw Lee (aka Julie) and it was ok. Tried Nana and she was very good. Gave me one of the best and firmest massages I have had in a while. And a very good finish at the end. She looked ok to me and had a smokin hot body. Real tight body. Ass was super firm and she had a nice big enhanced rack. I couldn't tell if she was sucking my dick at the end since her hair was blocking my view but it looked and felt like it. And real pleasant too. Winner!

Also saw Rose at Top. I prefer Jasmine or Sophia. She just didn't do it for me. Kind of too mechanical and not sensual enough.

Also tried out Tengoku for the first time and ended up with Opi? Anyway, that's what it sounded like to me. Very friendly and catering, but she just didn't do it for me either. She had nice size tits but was too chunky for my tastes and the table shampoo was like she was really just trying to get me clean.

So there you have it. Have fun everybody! Just report back after.

Rascal X

05-26-05, 11:59

I heard the same story from a girl there. Too bad the cops are wasting the manpower in this area. I wish our country would legalize prostitution like New Zealand has done.

Honoluman

05-26-05, 18:24

Yes they arrest the girl for the massage take them downtown give them a fine and release them. That is it! They also fine the owner. Business as usual the next day. Most girls will not pay the fine just move to another state. The owner will pay the fine unless they try to get their lawyer involved. But most pay the fine. No big deal. They don't even arrest the john. Interesting that they could wait until the FS is given and arrest them for Pros. you know. That is why I think the LE does not care. The local athorities collect the fines to pay for the new school books or the new buses or trash cans. It is all a game. As long as it is behind closed doors and off the streets they will allow it. As long as it is kept quiet who cares. I love this attitude and I love it here. So laid back.

Kay Bee

05-27-05, 01:26

I won't post the names of these girls since they are nice creatures that I like a lot and really respect, and know that they would not like to be revealed on the net. Names are not germaine to this story. It is about the varying levels of service that we might get from the girls as individuals.

I have two favorites now, both very nice, accomodating, cute, petite, and sweet. Both have awesome, tasteful sound effects and good eye contact. My type in everyway. Didn't mess around, as I gave them $200 (after room fee) right from the start and I have always been happy with each visit. Not talking about a pro sport-f**k with Asian etc., just sweet and well paced sensual sex.

With one, she expressed suprise and happiness at receiving $200 the first time. Was very sweet after, and right to the door. On my 2nd visit, she gave a little GFE with tiny kisses and quick and light (teaser) tongue contact. Gave her $260. On the 3rd visit, she gave more GFE with an occasional full DFK (whew). Gave her $300. This last visit she gave the full, and I mean full GFE (except for the rubber), with awesome DFK and great sensual body feedback during FS. (DayaM!!!) Gave her $360.

That's it, that was the last time I will see her. It would not be a positive thing to try it again. It was partly luck and partly chemistry, I think. I guess there are other fish to fry.

John Ross

05-27-05, 01:28

Went back to Ohana the other day and Kimberly wasn't around. Julie escorted me to the room and we talked a little and I thought she was going to work on me. After I showered and returned to the room, much to my surprise in walks a different girl. It turns out that Nana was going to massage me. I must say that it was one fo the best massages I have ever had. Really firm massage and she used her knees to really dig into the muscles. On the flip she continues the massage and those 34Cs are staring me in the face. We finally get to the good part and I take off the towel and off comes her top. Those babies sure are nice and soft! She does the titty fucking and pseudo bj and I blow like a rocket on her tits and hair. Too bad I missed her face. After the cleanup, she tells me come again. I hope she does more the next time!

Member #1062

05-27-05, 03:31

I stopped at Rosemarri this afternoon and met Jennifer. She's a cutie! Short vietnamese with nice body nearly perfect (slightly enhanced) boobs. Yum!

Massage was OK -she walked on my back which I like. Followed by the usual positions with good attitude and good service. But she did have a few stretch marks.

Choices during the day at AMPs are often limited it was nice to connect with her. Would I repeat? Probably.

Kim Chee Kane

05-27-05, 17:46

You guys have been reporting some things about that place. I'm so interested in checking it out.

Anyway care to give a detail description of the ladies and the costs?

Be safe!

kataichimpo

05-30-05, 02:02

Either you are rich or really crazy for paying that much!

I won't post the names of these girls since they are nice creatures that I like a lot and really respect, and know that they would not like to be revealed on the net. Names are not germaine to this story. It is about the varying levels of service that we might get from the girls as individuals.

I have two favorites now, both very nice, accomodating, cute, petite, and sweet. Both have awesome, tasteful sound effects and good eye contact. My type in everyway. Didn't mess around, as I gave them $200 (after room fee) right from the start and I have always been happy with each visit. Not talking about a pro sport-f**k with Asian etc., just sweet and well paced sensual sex.

With one, she expressed suprise and happiness at receiving $200 the first time. Was very sweet after, and right to the door. On my 2nd visit, she gave a little GFE with tiny kisses and quick and light (teaser) tongue contact. Gave her $260. On the 3rd visit, she gave more GFE with an occasional full DFK (whew). Gave her $300. This last visit she gave the full, and I mean full GFE (except for the rubber), with awesome DFK and great sensual body feedback during FS. (DayaM!!!) Gave her $360.

That's it, that was the last time I will see her. It would not be a positive thing to try it again. It was partly luck and partly chemistry, I think. I guess there are other fish to fry.

SmilesHI60

05-30-05, 08:10

Long time lurker and have benefitted greatly from everyone's contributions.

Lucky: Pretty, height about 5-2, enhanced 34 D's, hard w/ small nips. Fun to talk to as I mentioned that I was "lucky and going to get Lucky". Average TS. CBJ but she went deep throat all the way. That was amazing. Tight pussy. Looks-8, attitude 9, skills 8, body 9. Went to repeat but was told she was sick so got Obi.

Obi: Average looking, older and thicker. Natural, soft 36 C. Taller, about 5'-5". Average session. I offerred her massage near the end and she seemed to enjoy. Had fun but would not repeat since pussy was loose and lots of other providers to sample.

SH

SmilesHI60

05-30-05, 08:20

Visited Rosemari a week ago Sunday morning with plan to sample Didi. Got adventurous and decided to go with whoever was sent in. Got Jun, Korean, looked early 30's, about 5' 4", slim with enhanced 32 b's. Nice nipples. Fun with good attitude. Started w/ CBJ. She rode on top for awhile, then went into mish to completion (covered). Talked a little, then got dresssed. Walked arm-in-arm out the door. Almost thought she was going with me to my car. Asked her if she wanted to go to the beach and we laughed. Semi GFE. Thought about repeating but so many other choices out there.

SH

Chubs

05-30-05, 15:01

Kay Bee

05-30-05, 15:04

Either you are rich or really crazy for paying that much!Jaded is probably closer to the mark. That was the best experience I ever had in an AMP. Well worth it to me.

Forgot to mention that it all took place within a weeks time, and the first 2 sessions were on the same night. I doubt that a similar situation will ever present itself again, although I would definitely go for that over the standard routines any day. This confirms for me in my search for only the best lookers with the nicest personalities.

Mushi

05-30-05, 16:16

Either you are rich or really crazy for paying that much!Whther you are rich or crazy, over paying anthing over 150 is making it hard for the rest of us trying to keep the rates down. How much better does the service get? I pay anywhere between 100 and 130 and get the best looking and the most talented with that and they still act like GFE. I think all you're doing is raising the rates for all mongers. Aloha

Jack First

05-30-05, 20:30

If I remember right, that Jennifer is like 4'5"(only a slight exaggeration!), and service is strictly mish and CG. She's ok, but you can do better elsewhere, IMHO.

I stopped at Rosemarri this afternoon and met Jennifer. She's a cutie! Short vietnamese with nice body nearly perfect (slightly enhanced) boobs. Yum!

Massage was OK -she walked on my back which I like. Followed by the usual positions with good attitude and good service. But she did have a few stretch marks.

Choices during the day at AMPs are often limited it was nice to connect with her. Would I repeat? Probably.

Moriwake

05-31-05, 03:03

If I remember right, that Jennifer is like 4'5"(only a slight exaggeration!), and service is strictly mish and CG. She's ok, but you can do better elsewhere, IMHO.Agree. I had her and she obviously had a kid. She is super cute but only okay in terms of service. But I have to admit that she is hot.

kataichimpo

05-31-05, 04:54

I doubt that a similar situation will ever present itself again, although I would definitely go for that over the standard routines any day. You must be very very new to this hobby. Those situations are always being presented!

Member #2650

05-31-05, 08:28

Yuri is 37 years old. She may not look it but yes she is.
Hono,

I was talking about another Yuri. I saw your pic, and it wasn't the same girl. The one I know from Smile looks a lot younger.

2650

Kay Bee

05-31-05, 11:40

Whther you are rich or crazy, over paying anthing over 150 is making it hard for the rest of us trying to keep the rates down. How much better does the service get? I pay anywhere between 100 and 130 and get the best looking and the most talented with that and they still act like GFE. I think all you're doing is raising the rates for all mongers. AlohaIts a hobby, not a lifestyle or a neccesity. Its about appetites, for me anyway. I look at the whole situation for exactly what it is, and have to wonder about anyone worrying about prices going up or actually making an effort to keep them down. It's a man's world, thats why you can go to one of these places, drop some cash, get whatever you want and then leave. All the power lies within your discretion and your pocketbook, and nowhere else. When you walk out, you still have a job, a family, a future, and a life (I hope). Why would you even concern yourself with keeping the rates down? The cash you spend is nothing compared to the lifestyle the girls lead. If you think about it, really, money is nothing.

CatchSumWaves

05-31-05, 22:51

Just in case you haven't checked out Arisoo(by Rockza next door to Mika).Have nothing but good things to say about this place. They need the business. Last week they where plagued with plumbing and electrical problems but since have been fixed and is now open for business.The girls that I have seen there are friendly and hot. I would hate to see a place with a good selection and nice facilities close down for lack of customers. Just my 2 cents.

Member #1062

06-01-05, 04:40

I don’t understand some posters, who decline to give out a girl’s name or even location, but go on to reveal that they were foolish enough to pay up to twice the going rate. What’s up with that? It only leads to price increases for the rest of us and offers no useful information whatsoever.

I went to VIP on a weeknight last week. Mamasan brought two girls to the room. I chose Jun, a cute Korean with a nice smile dressed in pink. TS was average, massage was OK, and she made an attempt at asian, which is not my thing.

We progressed through the usual positions, the highlight of which was DATY, then finished with HJ. Looks 6, body 6, attitude 6, experience 6.
Would I repeat? No. Why pursue mediocrity?

kataichimpo

06-01-05, 14:28

I can't believe some of the things he's saying. "Money is nothing". Well I'm sorry, but not everyone is rich and consider money as nothing. And just because its a hobby and not a lifestyle or neccesity doesn't mean that we want the prices to all go up. Who wouldn't complain about prices of any hobby going up?

Anyway, what is "attempt at asian" mean?

I don’t understand some posters, who decline to give out a girl’s name or even location, but go on to reveal that they were foolish enough to pay up to twice the going rate. What’s up with that? It only leads to price increases for the rest of us and offers no useful information whatsoever.

I went to VIP on a weeknight last week. Mamasan brought two girls to the room. I chose Jun, a cute Korean with a nice smile dressed in pink. TS was average, massage was OK, and she made an attempt at asian, which is not my thing.

We progressed through the usual positions, the highlight of which was DATY, then finished with HJ. Looks 6, body 6, attitude 6, experience 6.
Would I repeat? No. Why pursue mediocrity?

bmw325

06-01-05, 19:43

I am writing this in response to Kay Bee's posts. I was really disturbed that we have some one like Kay Bee on this board. First of all he has no respect for his fellow mongers by paying the amounts that he did. Let me explain, I have mongered in Hawaii for ten years plus and the last thing we need is an "amateur" monger like Kay Bee. First of all there are 28 AMP's in Hawaii at last count with approximately 5 girls or more per AMP. That makes 140 girls available on any particular day. The girls and the mamas know what kinda rates they can get away with. Usually the house fee is anywhere from $40 to $50 and girls tips average from $100 to $150 for full service. Usually $120 is the standard rate and $150 is given to a girl that goes beyond the normal routine. That rate is not set by me. It is set by current supply/demand requirements. Believe me, if the girls could get away with more they would ask for it all the time. But guess what? They don't because they know there is too much competition out there. Like I said why would I pay a stupid rate of $300 for a service that is selling for $120 to $150? In my vast experience paying more and paying up front does not help you in this hobby. The only thing that paying more will do is serve to give the girl a reason to laugh at you when you walk out the door. I have gotten full on bareback services with GFE/PSE many times over for $120 to $150. I have two basic rules: I never pay upfront and I never pay more than the current "market" rate. Because only a fool would do that. My suggestion to Kay Bee is to educate yourself before going out so that you don't make it harder on everybody else that wants to pay the market rate. If I was the manager of this board I would kick Kay Bee out for sheer stupidity. Just my opinion.

CatchSumWaves

06-01-05, 20:50

Gentlemen,

I think essence of what Kay bee is saying is the level of service one receives at one these AMP's does not necessarily correlate to the tips that the girl receives. Just giving anything past the usual $.50 is a generous refection of the experiences one receives.

I my self work in the tipping industry and provide excellent service to the average "tipper" but will go above and beyond if need be for the VIP's. I know myself that there is always someone who tips more/less. I have personally spoken to many girls about this very same subject matter and they know what the going rate is. But like anyone else will provide extra attention to customers that treat them well. I know that looks and attitude have a big factor in your over all service as well but, in my experience the customers that tip the most are generally the bests ones.

Just my "50 cents"

BJ Hawaii

06-01-05, 22:44

Haven't been mongering for a while so wanted to try someplace different. Called the Japan but no answer. Went to Arisoo but they had construction going on. Several trucks and other cars were parked in their dirveway. Even though it was open I didn't feel like getting a table shower with a carpenter in the next room (nothing against carpenters, I just didn't want to perform for a crowd).

Went to Imperial. The last time I was there, about 8 months ago, I had a bad experiance, but I thought I'd give it another chance. I seemed to recall a couple of favorable reviews recently. I used to frequent that AMP back when it was Asia and it used ro be my favorite.

I was told that there was only one girl working (although it looked like another girl was sleeping on the couch). anyway, after waiting about 10 minutes Sunny comes in and we go to the shower. During the shower she gives me only one word answers. At first I thought she was nervous because of LE so I tried to lighten the mood. I even got a boner in the shower, which at my age is hard to do (no pun intended). Still no response from her. I asked her point blank if she doesn't like me or something I did or didn't do? No answer. She just askes if I wanted FS - I said yes. I thought that would make her happy. Anyway it just ended up 2 minutes tit sucking, cbj, cg. All done w/in 15 monutes of returing from the shower. No daty, fingering etc.

Sunny looks to be in her mid to late 30s, cute and slim with a tatoo on her right (?) shoulder. Natural As (nice) but ZERO personality.

After the deed she said that she lost her purse today that why she was in a bad mood. Sheesh why don't they tell you up front?

L-6.5
S-3
A-0
B-6
40/120

I am never repeating. Hopeful;y ownership of that place will change soon.

Rotten Otto

06-02-05, 04:09

Honoluman

06-02-05, 08:32

Reason why some don't give names is the recent LE activity. The girls don't want their names reported and have some undercover LE come in ask for them and then take them away. Too risky and they are scared. I hear that is why the girls from the old Rainbow 7 have not opened another shop yet or are working in other shops part-time using different names. They also have worked in LA. And they have enough money to not work for awhile and just relax. But who knows. I know the word on thestreet is please do not post our names or $$ as we need our jobs. Just my intell from a few girls.

Devorzon

06-02-05, 15:36

CatchSumWaves

06-02-05, 17:27

I passed by that place this late afternoon, but man, where do you park? No street parking to be seen.I think their 2-3 parking spaces right in front. Everytime I have gone there I had no problem but, the parking area does seems al ittle ghetto.

Kay Bee

06-03-05, 02:33

I am suprised at all of this whining and worrying about prices. Is there no room for people to follow their own experiences and act according to their instinct? We are not all the same. These girls are human with individual likes and dislikes, whims and fancies. Not all of them have become the cold-hearted hardened pro. Some still have a fresh, sweet, and child-like attitude not commonly seen in this environment. I seriously doubt that these girls will give their best to each and every customer. If you can meet one of these and endeavor to make a personal connection, then the possibility is there to have a session that is far from routine. Why is this so remarkable?

This is not mongering I am talking about, it is human nature. The problem is once you reduce the formula to the lowest common denominator, then all you are purchasing is a piece of meat, and of course, a piece of meat should have a set price. Nothing wrong with that--I don't mind a piece of meat now and then, but I don't always see it that way. I want something more if the opportunity presents itself. If you throw all of the girls into one category entitled HOs, then that is all you are going to get. To do so is so limiting. I am not a hardcore monger in terms of my attitude towards the girls because it doesn't always suit all of my needs and my desires. I am most definitely not in pursuit of the lowest common denominator as seems to be the case with the few who are criticizing my post.

BMW325,

Try not to get too emotional bmw325, and try to be a bit more civil, okay? Try to cool off, and if you still feel as strongly as you do, feel free to PM me. I think it best to maintain a civil attitude on the internet. We have no real recourse to settling these issues properly, and besides, it looks as if you are having a hissy fit. Now I'm not saying that that is the real you, but it looks unseemly bmw325, very unseemly of a person with your years of experience.

kataichimpo

06-03-05, 03:11

I'm sure LE can go in anytime they want and take the girls away without knowing any of their names. why would knowing a name have anything to do with the services they provide? they all provide it. LE knows it.

I rather you not post if you are not going to provide any relavent information. To me, things like girls name as well as the level of service provided is relavent information. If not, I can go on and on about great service I got for $1.50, but what good would that do to everyone else?

Reason why some don't give names is the recent LE activity. The girls don't want their names reported and have some undercover LE come in ask for them and then take them away. Too risky and they are scared. I hear that is why the girls from the old Rainbow 7 have not opened another shop yet or are working in other shops part-time using different names. They also have worked in LA. And they have enough money to not work for awhile and just relax. But who knows. I know the word on thestreet is please do not post our names or $$ as we need our jobs. Just my intell from a few girls.

Lip Licker

06-03-05, 05:37

Gentlemen, I feel compelled to add my opinion since it seems that KB's posts have generated such controversy:

I agree with most that paying a premium for services hurts everyone who isn't financially independant. I know from experience that paying more than what is the norm tends to encourage higher rates expected by the girls. It seems that such practice seems to affect the SW market more than the AMP's but either case, it is just bad etiquette to other mongerers.

On the flip side, it seems that those who have been criticizing Kay Bee's reports the strongest are newbies to the board who have contributed jack whereas Kay Bee has provided several good reports over the past year. Yes, this is a forum, but it would probably be more constructive to give an opinion without personally attacking fellow board members especially if you have not contributed anything to the board.

So Kay Bee, while I don't agree with your overpayment, I appreciate your posts and hope you keep on posting your reports.

Strong Mojo

06-03-05, 12:24

I agree with LL on Kay Bee.

Everyone should tip however they feel. I believe that girls see a bell curve in the tipping. There are those that tip below average and always try to get more for less, then there are those at the other end that tip above (and sometime way above) average (this would be KB). The majority fall into the middle range, and this is where the scales are set. Tip low and you'll get bad to no service next time..tip high and get VIP service. Of course there are providers that are the exception and will provide GFE & PSE, but as always, YMMV.

Keep on posting KB.

SM

Honoluman

06-03-05, 14:25

Yes you are correct they can't take them away unless they do something wrong. The girls are scared as too much LE pressure lately. They don't understand why since they have been able to do as they have for so long with almost no interference. If you are not a regular and you go in asking for a specific girl this makes them more nervous.

kataichimpo

06-03-05, 14:30

since i'm a newbie and have been criticizing KB, here's my post.

recently went to rose marri. had a great time with the girl. nice shower and pretty good massage. ended up in different positions but ended in mish. paid the normal fees, but sorry i can't reveal the girls name because she is a "nice creature who i really like and respect. names are not germaine to this story."
at least i didn't overpay.

there were two points LL. that KB overpaid, and also not posting names. now i can go on and on with phantom reviews like that if thats how things should be done now?

Gentlemen, I feel compelled to add my opinion since it seems that KB's posts have generated such controversy:

I agree with most that paying a premium for services hurts everyone who isn't financially independant. I know from experience that paying more than what is the norm tends to encourage higher rates expected by the girls. It seems that such practice seems to affect the SW market more than the AMP's but either case, it is just bad etiquette to other mongerers.

On the flip side, it seems that those who have been criticizing Kay Bee's reports the strongest are newbies to the board who have contributed jack whereas Kay Bee has provided several good reports over the past year. Yes, this is a forum, but it would probably be more constructive to give an opinion without personally attacking fellow board members especially if you have not contributed anything to the board.

So Kay Bee, while I don't agree with your overpayment, I appreciate your posts and hope you keep on posting your reports.

kataichimpo

06-03-05, 14:51

Finally got around to visiting Smile Spa. I haven't seen Bonnie since the NYer days but she recognized me and I her. Standard shower. Back in the room, she did some minimal massage then started with the kissing and rubbing titties on the back which felt nice. Then came the good stuff. Major rimming. Flipped over and continued the rimming. Then on to some bbbj with a lot of slurping noises. I almost blew. I could have gotten bbfs but decided not to. Multiple positions and I took the cover off and blew in her mouth. PSE/GFE, all at the standard rate :)

Definately repeatable.

Chubs

06-03-05, 14:58

Don't see how any review is considered good considering the lack of names and the girls' stats. Now maybe this would slide if this forum didn't allow mongering and everyone had to put something up. It's just way too funny that this high school BS (tellin' your boys how many fictional sexperiences happened to you during the weekend) still goes on.

Hence useless reviews.

bmw325

06-03-05, 15:16

To KayBee,

It is obvious that you are the newbie not me. Only newbies overpay. Sure I just joined this board. But I have you know that I am a member of many other forums based in Hawaii for many years. In fact I live in Hawaii. It is you mainland "amateur mongers" that ruin it for us locals. We locals that live here know the current AMP situation better than all of you. It pisses me off when mainland types come over here and pay these exorbitant fees to these girls. Sure, you have the right to pay want you want, but you also have the right to be educated. And if you carefully read my message you will discover that there is a lot of very useful info there. My info is derived from experience. Trust me on this one, the girl that you paid that extra money to is kicking back laughing at you. If you think she has any feelings for you then you truly are an "amateur". You are just another customer, nothing more! I have talked to many of these girls over the years and they have literally told me that they love the "haole" mainland types and the Japanese tourists that visit Hawaii because they ALWAYS overpay. These girls tell me that mainland USA and Japanese tourists are the biggest suckers. I am just repeating what a lot of the girls have told me. So there!

But keep doing what you are doing you will learn soon enough.

Just to let you know. On the forums that I am a member of in Hawaii we have two cardinal sins that will trigger an automatic ban. One is not mentioning the girls name that you review and number two is overpaying. So if you were a member of those forums they would have banned you already.

BJ Hawaii

06-03-05, 15:35

Kim Chee Kane

06-03-05, 16:43

Hey all,

Just recently took a trip to RM in Ward. I went upstairs and was greeted by some young Korean girl. She actually looked pretty decent in plain clothing. Anyway, I saw some of the ladies sitting in the couch and she took me in the room. Of course, she collected the .5 and I requested for Thai girls. There was only one available...Didi. She wasn't that bad looking. I wonder if its the same one that the other peeps in here checked out. She had some huge knockers. I'm usually not into big boobs...I requested to see the other girls...mainly korean and one noticable vietnamese girl. She was pretty hot and petite.

Eventually I picked Didi and she took me in the back to shower. She did not join me so I had to shower myself. That was kinda wack...but I think it may be because she suspected me to be LE or of the recent kgmb story about the AMP providers. We headed back in the room and conversated.

She did a lot of caressing and it was okay. I was kinda looking forward to a good massage but none provided. Anyway, it was mainly DATY, 69, and doggy. I did not last that long which frickin sucks. But cannot be helped...heh. She gave me a warm towel, mouth wash, and coke. The damage was 1.4.

Hmm...interesting.

Be safe.

John Ross

06-03-05, 17:24

I try to stay to of these internet arguments since it ends up going nowhere. However, I believe I know bmw325 from other boards. He has been around for a long time and has been a very good resource on this hobby.

Overpaying, in my opinion, is up to the customer. It is his dime and can spend what he wishes. However, if he were considerate of other hobbyists, he would also look at the possible ramifications of overpaying. Providers will think they can get more and will expect it. This makes it hard for everyone else. For the $300 that you paid, you could have gotten serviced 2x at any AMP! I liken it to shopping for a car, you want the best car you can get for your dollar. You don't want to pay Porsche prices for a Honda.

If there were ulterior motives for paying such fees, such as "hoping" you could engage in a relationship with this person, get over it. They are all professionals and are in it for the money, that is why they do what they do. And if you do develop a relationship, are you willing to put up with their job? If not, are you willing to support them in the manner commensurate to their AMP compensation?

In the past, you have written other posts about KBs and meeting a nice girl there. You omitted her name because you did not want to either intrude upon her privacy or wanted her to yourself. I have had live-in gfs that worked at KBs and they would always talk about guys spending money chasing after them. One of them had guys so wrapped up, she would call them from the bar on her birthday and tell them to open champagne. They would give her the CC# and he'd be charged for champagne. They wouldn't know the difference as they were in Japan, the mainland or at home with their wives. At least she was honest and did open the bottle.

What I'm saying here is, if you chase after these women with the hope that something will materialize, you are in for a world of hurt. You can say you aren't chasing, but throwing money at them is the equivalent. I can understand where you are coming from, but not posting their name is a M.O. of yours and that is a disservice to other members. If you don't want to post their name, it is best not to post at all.

Geeko

06-03-05, 23:38

I agree with Honoluman about the concern the girls have of LE when someone they haven't seen before shows up and is asking for them by name. I've gotten tips from people before on who is a good provider and when I asked for the suggested girl you could tell she was way more cautious initially.

And enough already about Kay Bee's posting. He isn't grand standing and telling all of you to tip more. He isn't trying to set the price on the market. Do any of you really think someone tipping high is going to change the price so that if any one of us shows our sorry asses at an AMP and we tip average or below average we are going to get turned away or told to pay more. Give me a damn break. The girls know what standard rates are and they are going to give you f/s for that - some may go below, some may not and stick to getting $.50 for it. It is like tipping in a restaurant or bar, we all know what a standard tip is, if the service sucked you may tip less or not at all, though that option isn't available at an AMP, and if it was excellent you may tip more, or you may not, but it is your choice. If Kay Bee wants to tip more, who cares, that's his choice. Sometimes you get what you pay for - so if it helps get him VIP treatment and he wants to tip for that or just because he appreciated the session I say go ahead because it is his choice.

So enough of this shit and let's get back to posting reviews that matter and give us the info we want out of this forum.

Kay Bee

06-04-05, 00:28

Thanks LL, SM, and the others who have PMed, I appreciate the understanding. SM, you pretty much hit the nail on the head.

As for the others, there's no communication going on here. If you have a problem, fell free to use the PM function.

kataichimpo

06-04-05, 01:45

Right on bmw! I'm with you! I love these useless sarcastic posts that just take up space.

I don't think its a waste of space when we are trying to keep some standards here and educating these newbies. I have to admit, my very first amp experience, the girl suckered me into paying $$.50 for fs. I thought that was the greatest experience. now i look back and see how stupid I was.

This is a forum to share experiences and information. Posts without names, places, numbers are not information at all. and if you don't know what the going rates are, just ask! NEVER overpay.

To KayBee,

It is obvious that you are the newbie not me. Only newbies overpay. Sure I just joined this board. But I have you know that I am a member of many other forums based in Hawaii for many years. In fact I live in Hawaii. It is you mainland "amateur mongers" that ruin it for us locals. We locals that live here know the current AMP situation better than all of you. It pisses me off when mainland types come over here and pay these exorbitant fees to these girls. Sure, you have the right to pay want you want, but you also have the right to be educated. And if you carefully read my message you will discover that there is a lot of very useful info there. My info is derived from experience. Trust me on this one, the girl that you paid that extra money to is kicking back laughing at you. If you think she has any feelings for you then you truly are an "amateur". You are just another customer, nothing more! I have talked to many of these girls over the years and they have literally told me that they love the "haole" mainland types and the Japanese tourists that visit Hawaii because they ALWAYS overpay. These girls tell me that mainland USA and Japanese tourists are the biggest suckers. I am just repeating what a lot of the girls have told me. So there!

But keep doing what you are doing you will learn soon enough.

Just to let you know. On the forums that I am a member of in Hawaii we have two cardinal sins that will trigger an automatic ban. One is not mentioning the girls name that you review and number two is overpaying. So if you were a member of those forums they would have banned you already.

Kay Bee

06-04-05, 13:51

Overpaying, in my opinion, is up to the customer. It is his dime and can spend what he wishes. However, if he were considerate of other hobbyists, he would also look at the possible ramifications of overpaying. Providers will think they can get more and will expect it. This makes it hard for everyone else. For the $300 that you paid, you could have gotten serviced 2x at any AMP! I liken it to shopping for a car, you want the best car you can get for your dollar. You don't want to pay Porsche prices for a Honda.

If there were ulterior motives for paying such fees, such as "hoping" you could engage in a relationship with this person, get over it. They are all professionals and are in it for the money, that is why they do what they do. And if you do develop a relationship, are you willing to put up with their job? If not, are you willing to support them in the manner commensurate to their AMP compensation?

In the past, you have written other posts about KBs and meeting a nice girl there. You omitted her name because you did not want to either intrude upon her privacy or wanted her to yourself. I have had live-in gfs that worked at KBs and they would always talk about guys spending money chasing after them. One of them had guys so wrapped up, she would call them from the bar on her birthday and tell them to open champagne. They would give her the CC# and he'd be charged for champagne. They wouldn't know the difference as they were in Japan, the mainland or at home with their wives. At least she was honest and did open the bottle.

What I'm saying here is, if you chase after these women with the hope that something will materialize, you are in for a world of hurt. You can say you aren't chasing, but throwing money at them is the equivalent. I can understand where you are coming from, but not posting their name is a M.O. of yours and that is a disservice to other members. If you don't want to post their name, it is best not to post at all.JR,

Did you read my original post that started all of this? If not, do me a favor and take a careful look at it. I think I mentioned at the end that I will not be seeing this girl again. If you'll take the time to try to understand the situation I describe, you may see that I am talking about a level of service that is way beyond any that I have had at an AMP, and that I do not anticipate ever happening again. I mentioned in a subsequent post that all four sessions occured in 1 week, and the first two happened in the same night. I had a hunch, and followed through by going back a couple of hours later. The way she responded to my 2nd visit prompted the 3rd and 4th visits. This is not a question of having 2 girls for what I paid for 1, it is about the excitement of following one's instinct, having that instinct confirmed, and getting a level of service that was intense to say the least. I know these are just words on a computer screen that must be taken with a grain of salt, so all I can say is the experience and the level of service received was, for me, well worth the cash. (Again, I'll repeat for those who have problems with reading comprehension--the situation was unique, and I do not anticipate it ever happening again).

Notice that I use the terms "session", "visit", and "service". As far as AMPs are concerned, there is no question of me falling for any of the girls. The would be sheer folly considering the life they are in. Please read my post again. I sensed that the girl and I had connected at a personal level (as far as that can happen in a brothel), and *used* that and a monetary reward as a carrot to try to coax something, anything better than usual.

I've been doing the KB thing for quite a while, and from the start have operated with full control of the situation. My thing is to go into these environments (AMPs, KBs) and to *constantly* analyze *everything* that goes on there, and try to figure out how I fit into the scheme of things and how I can get what I want while at the same time treating the girls respectfully. When I was active in the KBs, I was out there 5 to 7 nights a week for 5 years. My method was to continuously make the rounds solo, sit at the bar, and look out for the new girls fresh to the bar scene, observe their style, and of those few only make a move if there was a chance for success. The problem was I only hooked up with nice and sometimes slightly naive girls who were looking for a real relationship, while all I was looking for was friendship and sex. With that realization, after a while I could not escape the fact that I was just using these girls for my own needs no matter how nicely I treated them. Its a depressing situation for someone who has a real affection for women, so I just stopped doing it. Now I only go to bars to carouse and drink like everyone else.

Anyway, the reason I made the controversial post was to share an experience that I thought could be helpful in terms of "thinking outside of the box", and that the thrill of the chase and the reward for moving beyond the mentality of the "lowest common denominator" can be had in the AMP scene. Its unfortunate that it was taken in such a negative light by some.

kataichimpo

06-04-05, 19:30

Went to Rose Marri last Monday and with my luck, it was a super busy day. I asked for a line up but didn't get one because it was so busy and I had to wait for a girl. Ruby entered the room and kept me company. She said she went drinking the night before and wasn't feeling well so she wasn't working. Too bad, because she was pretty cute. She gave me a massage while I waited.

Finally Yuri walked in. She didn't have makeup on but she was decent. Although Yuri sounds Japanese, she was Korean. After she showered me we went back to the room for some massage. Once she flipped me over, she started licking my knee caps. Felt a bit weird but actually started to feel really good. She'd lick my from my knees up my thighs and my balls. Cover came on for some CBJ, then she mounted me for cg. end in mish.

Overall not too bad.

Standard rates was the damage.

Jack First

06-04-05, 20:50

Rascal X

06-05-05, 02:15

Hey Guys,

If you have beefs with each other, please do it personally and leave the reports for what it was meant to be. I am tired of seeing this bickering like a bunch of old ladies. It's getting old and I don't even read what you write anymore.

S Hunter

06-05-05, 02:25

I don't know about you guys, but I try to pay as little as possible that I (not the girl) think is fair.

For a massage with extras, I usually pay 80-100. I sometimes get bj's and fs for the same price.

At AMPs, I pay the house fee plus 120 for fs. I have been doing this for years and strangely, I do not think the price affects the level of service. I think a lot of times it depends on the girl. Girls that give great service are keepers to me, regardless of their hotness factor in terms of looks. I have had the most beautiful girls give the crappiest service and vice versa.

My first time at an AMP, I got great service but I got ripped off since I didn't know better and she could tell I was a newbie. But her service was really good. She even squirted on me when she came. A first for me.

I figure the less I pay, the more I can go.

Kamipulu

06-05-05, 04:32

I generally pay $.50 at the door and then the rest is a tip based on service. My range is anywhere from $1.00 to $1.50 depending on how much of a GFE it was.

Kay Bee

06-05-05, 04:33

With all this talk of overpaying, blah blah blah, I am getting pretty interested in what all of you really pay. I have found that $$ is standard here in Honolulu. Seems that some of you may consistently only drop $1.5, and I'd like to know what the consequences are for you, how it correlates to how often you hobby, etc. This is because whenever I try to go $1.5, I get nagged, hassled, and basically told that $$ is the "going rate". I personally just don't like to deal with the drama, so I just let $$ go everytime. Anyone out there in the same situation as me, or something else? Let me know, either PM or post.

Thanks!I'm not rich, but I make good money. I also work 40 to 45 weekends out of the year, and the money from weekend work has exceeded 60% of my annual income for the past 4 years. You'll often see me working 1 to 4 months straight without a day off. In other words, there is no shortage of cash in my "slush fund" at any given moment and I can AMP whenever I feel the desire. Lately its pretty much dropped down to once a week since I date and socialize as well, and also have a fear of how STDs can affect those other more important aspects of my life.

My standard rate is 150, and never goes lower. For one thing, at this stage I *never* accept a girl that does not meet my visual standards. I have in the past and have usually been dissapointed. So if the girl is pretty and has a good body, the bare minimum expected is a good attitude from start to finish. The bottom line is all she has to do is lay there looking pretty, and she's earned her money. There are a couple of girls that I give 200. They are exceptional in terms of looks, service, attitude and as human beings in general. They are sharp and witty, and have families and goals for the future. They are a pleasure to be with, and the little extra that I pay is given in the spirit of respect, friendship, and affection.

If any girl seems to have a funky attitude, out they go. This usually manifests itself as impatience right from the start, unreasonable rules, and also accompanied with a stern, aloof, or slightly angry demeanor. The slightest "hurry up" or any sign of an aloof or impatient attitude is grounds for the immediate end of the session. If its within the first 15 min., then I'll expect the room fee to be returned. If the attitude shows up later, I'll chalk it up to bad judgement on my part and take a loss on the room fee, but the girl gets zilch. Luckily, the latter has only happened once. I bailed at the 45 min. mark and the girl did not even think about asking for money. Much better to go to another place than to go through with a shitty session and throw money down the drain.

Haggling and nagging is absolutely unacceptable. I've never been nagged by girls and have never had a problem getting a room fee back after the first 15 min. (happened twice). It helps to convey an attitude that you are completely at home in their environment and won't take any shit, while at the same time superimposing a happy and light-hearted persona to put the girls at ease and to set the mood for the session. There are a lot of lazy chicks out there, as well as the embittered low-class b*tches which are to be avoided at all cost. Basically, you need to have a quick judgement of character to avoid dissapointment, and stand your ground firmly to avoid getting ripped off.

Kay Bee

06-05-05, 04:45

Ruby entered the room and kept me company. She said she went drinking the night before and wasn't feeling well so she wasn't working. Too bad, because she was pretty cute. She gave me a massage while I waited.
Hmm, she's never turned me down whether she is working or not, and she doesn't work all the time. Standard rate. Apparently they were pounding hards that night and puking all the next day.

Honoluman

06-05-05, 10:30

Kataichimpo,

How did Yuri look? Did she have a scar on her lower back? Did she have a nice rack? How about Rubi? If they who I think they used to own R7 before their attorney lost the lease. Let me know. See the picture I posted in the Photo Gallery.

kataichimpo

06-05-05, 16:10

Well, Yuri looked plain because she didn't have any makeup on. IfIi had to choose her from a lineup, I probably would have choosen someone else. She wasn't all that bad, just not a stunner. She was basically flat, a cup, nothing enhanced at all. Rubi on the other hand was cute, to me. From what I could tell, she was basically flat too.

Kataichimpo,

How did Yuri look? Did she have a scar on her lower back? Did she have a nice rack? How about Rubi? If they who I think they used to own R7 before their attorney lost the lease. Let me know. See the picture I posted in the Photo Gallery.

Haynese

06-05-05, 21:26

John Ross

06-06-05, 02:49

Went to Top/Tokyo the other night and had Coco. Supposedly she is a new one from San Diego. Probably in her late 30s/early 40s. Nice natural B cups with good sized nipples, but she has a little pooch.

TS was good with lots of attention to the starfish. She gave a really good massage. Nice pressure and she even walked on my back for quite a while. Then she started to play with my butt, but no rimming. She licked my butt and back for a while and that was it. On the flip, she put on the cover and went down on me. Not bad, then had some DATY. Not sure if she was into it at that time as she looked really bored. Then she got excited and started bucking and smothering my face. As it was getting hard to breathe, I told her it was time to get down to business. She got on top and did her thing, then we switched positions and I eventually nutted. Lots of cuddling after that and I got hard again. She was a trooper and was willing to do a hj as she was tired. Oh well, it was a long night and I had too much to drink earlier and so it was a little difficult for me to cum a second time within those time constraints. She said we could go for it next time. lol

L: 7, A: 7, S: 8

Kay Bee

06-06-05, 12:24

In response to those interested about prices, I've paid .5 at the door and 1.5 for full service. I've been mongering since July 03 and this has never changed (except for one superhot Korean girl at New Yorker in Nov 03, where she insisted on 2.0) I suspect the rates don't go up as 1.5 probably puts them in the upper class category (way over 100k a year, no taxes!) and business would slide if they charged more. Personally, I think it's a great deal for everyone considering no other state can match the quanity / quality of service available here. Please post if you agree / disagree.

HayneseYour stats are interesting and suprising. I never thought to break it down that way. The hotter girls must be making more. I'm happy to see that there is such a level of success open to the girls and don't begrudge them at all. On the contrary, I can identify with the extreme sense of work ethic. When I first started, the price was 100. when I went back a year later, it seemed to be 150, and I agree that that will be the price cap for some time to come. Personally, I think 80% of the girls are not worth 150. I had to visit 5 different AMPs friday to finally find what I was looking for.

Rascal X

06-06-05, 12:51

Haynese

06-06-05, 17:39

I usually tip between $120 to $150 for full service. Some girls are in such a rush, that I have been out in less than 30 minutes including shower. These girls get the obligatory $120, but don't even deserve that much. Went to Pine Tree last week and got the "time's up" knock on the door 45 minutes after I walked in. The first fifteen minutes was spent on 5 minute table shower and waiting in the room by myself. Don't know how they calculate the time.I don't know about everyone else but I always forgo the table shower. My reasons may be different than other mongerers but here goes:

1. I don't want or desire a table shower

2. I get more time with the girl

3. I'm less likely to be rushed out (see "times up" comment above)

Haynese

PS: I usually don't monger on Fri or Sat nights as these nights seem to be the only nights they're too busy. Why not go on a night when business is slow? You're bound to get better service!

Jack First

06-06-05, 18:17

After some PM responses and some of your posts, it seems that the going rate is in fact $$ = 50 house fee + 150 tip. It used to be 50 +100, but those days are gone. I agree with Kay Bee, though, that if the girl isn't hot, I just keep rolling the dice until I get a good one.(if there are no good ones, I leave and go somewhere else) This is mainly because the cute/hot ones cost the same overall as the fat, old, and ugly ones, so why take something lower than you want? The funny thing is that the list of places I would go to is getting smaller, so a lot of times I skip it altogether.
Just my extra 2 cents, but I think that for most of us on this board, the girls in these establishments probably remember you: the way you look, the way you act, and the amount you pay, regardless of whether you have seen a particular girl or not. I think this because in each house, there are usually 1 or 2 girls that have been there forever, and have seen each customer go in and out of the place. So, they share the info with the newer girl who is going to service you next. My point is that I don't think we are that anonymous when we go to AMPs.

Devorzon

06-06-05, 22:34

I've never posted this before, since I didn't want to be flamed for being "cheap" or get some lecture on how I must respect the girls and pay them the going rate or whatever, but there are many girls out there that will accept $100. Maybe we should start a thread about girls who will for those on a budget.

Anyway, I always pay $40 to get in, never $50. If the mamasan asks for $50 just say "ok, i'll come back later, i have to go to an atm". They'll just tell you never mind, next time pay the $50 since they don't want to risk you not coming back. So far, the 3 times I went to Rosemarri, all the girls accepted $100, no problem. Also Monique at Pink, the old VIP, accepts $100. The most I've ever paid was $140, and that was to Sarah at Pine Tree, who was probably the best provider I've ever had. Once I did pay $150 to Top Relaxation but that's only because my friend knew them and they new my friend. Long story, but I wouldn't advise anyone to go there, much better selection elsewhere.

Devorzon

06-06-05, 22:43

Went last night around 1:00 am . I don't care for the setup, they don't have a lineup like other places, they just send a random girl into the room. If you don't like her you're in the akward position of having to send her back and wait for another. I took the first girl they sent in, Candy. Not bad looking, Korean, 32, about 5 feet 100 lbs with medium sized boobs. She said she just came here from Korea two weeks ago. Typical service, nothing special. She likes DATY and getting her nipples sucked. Gave the massage after instead of before. Paid $100. Didn't have a bad time, but wouldn't repeat since there is so much more out there.

Haynese

06-07-05, 00:06

Personally, I think 80% of the girls are not worth 150. I had to visit 5 different AMPs friday to finally find what I was looking for.Same here, I often have to visit several AMP's to find the most bang for the buck. I guess this is part of the game and why we call it mongering!

Haynese

Kay Bee

06-07-05, 00:31

Some girls are in such a rush, that I have been out in less than 30 minutes including shower. These girls get the obligatory $120, but don't even deserve that much. Went to Pine Tree last week and got the "time's up" knock on the door 45 minutes after I walked in. The first fifteen minutes was spent on 5 minute table shower and waiting in the room by myself. Don't know how they calculate the time.For some reason, from the very first time I went to Palm/Pine Tree, the M.O. there has usually been for the girl to burn your time up while she is out of the room. Its not as bad lately but its irritating as all hell. Thats part of the reason I no longer go for the showers. If a massage is included, I'll want close to the full hour of room time to do my thing, and an hour in the room is much more fun for me. The other part is I don't like the vulnerable position a shower leaves you in the event of a bust, and I just do not enjoy being bathed on a potentially filthy table. Do they clean those things between each use?

I'd like to branch out and visit more of the AMPs out there but am hesitant due to the low-class mode in which a lot of these places operate. I stopped by Golden Queen Friday and there was a hideous looking mama there with about a quarter inch of make-up caked on her face, but her attitude was much worse than that.

Kay Bee

06-07-05, 00:47

Has anyone sighted any black girls in AMPs? About 4 or 5 years ago I went to one of the later incarnations of the old Narita Relaxation. It was one of my earlier forays, and there were two girls, and the young black one was the hottest so I chose her. Turns out she was young (21 or younger) from Kansas City, and half Korean although she was not fluent. You could barely see the Asian in her but it was there when you looked for it. She was fun.

Also, there is that blonde at Rosemarri--the one that is a bit overweight but has beautiful hair and a cute face. I had a long wait for a room Friday night, and she kept sneaking peaks while I was sitting there. In fact, everytime I go there she always stares when I walk in. It feels strange because most of the girls are surreptitious in their glances.

Member #1062

06-07-05, 02:40

I made the rounds at Ward Ave last night. Rosemarri was quiet, Pink had a few so-so girls beckoning me to come in, and then I went into Golden Queen.

There was only one girl on the couch and she was very cute. She flashed me a big smile and I said OK. Coco is korean, friendly, and has a nice bod (not too thin), no stretch marks. Started with CBJ, cowgirl then mish. There was something about gliding into nice tight p*ssy her that was very sweet. Finished w/ HJ and showered together.
Looks- 8, bod 8, attitude 8, service (non-rushed) 8.

After that, I went out for dinner, but I can't tell you where I went or what I ate. Waitress brought me the check and I paid double the amount of the bill. After all, it's only money.

kataichimpo

06-07-05, 04:55

I agree with you. I NEVER pay $50 for entrance. If the mama complains I either tell her that I've always paid $40, or the last time I was there I paid $40. If they still insist, then I just tell her I'll be back and leave. Only once has he mama actually let me leave, most will accept $40.

I've also had fs for $ also, but most times I get by with $1.20. The girls never complain. Unless I've established a long relationship with the girl and she really deserves $1.50, then I'll stick to my $1.20.

And for those who skip the TS: Why? If you don't want the TS and think that most of these places are dirty then maybe you should be going to see an escort instead of an AMP? then you'll get your full hour. For me, part of the experience at an AMP is the shower.

I've never posted this before, since I didn't want to be flamed for being "cheap" or get some lecture on how I must respect the girls and pay them the going rate or whatever, but there are many girls out there that will accept $100. Maybe we should start a thread about girls who will for those on a budget.

Anyway, I always pay $40 to get in, never $50. If the mamasan asks for $50 just say "ok, i'll come back later, i have to go to an atm". They'll just tell you never mind, next time pay the $50 since they don't want to risk you not coming back. So far, the 3 times I went to Rosemarri, all the girls accepted $100, no problem. Also Monique at Pink, the old VIP, accepts $100. The most I've ever paid was $140, and that was to Sarah at Pine Tree, who was probably the best provider I've ever had. Once I did pay $150 to Top Relaxation but that's only because my friend knew them and they new my friend. Long story, but I wouldn't advise anyone to go there, much better selection elsewhere.

Kauai Guy #1

06-07-05, 06:03

Just got back from a weekend amp spree. haven't been up since late last year so I made sure I made the most of my getaway. You fellas provided me with some great info so I gotta return the favor.

Friday 11 pm- Yuri at Smile

Went straight to the action. my absolute best asian experience yet. lasted at least 10 minutes, heavy rimming, stroking, fingering, cbj, cg, mish. was going at it mish and she tells me "sit on my face" I had no idea what she meant? ! LOL. so she pulls me on top for more cbj, porno style with me over her pumping her mouth while she grabs my ass forcing me down her throat. more mish, finished with more asian and HJ. showered after session which was good cause she washed all the lube from my ass, overall great experience and she says I will be even better next time. previous posts say shes late 30's, but she passes for early 20's

f- 7. 5
b- 7 (I like bigger boobs, shes about a b)
a- 9 s- 9

3 1/2 hours later- Misha at CS

This girl is hot. import car model hot. picture a bleach blond miko lee. but even better looking. had a lot of tribal tats, but not over the top. std shower, no massage. nice cbj, lots of slurping, first time I had a girl with tongue ring. jumped on for cg from all angles, cg, rcg, sideways. she's very vocal, moaning etc. then tells me her favorite is doggie, so I pound her hard and she asks for more. change to mish so I can play with her big titties. finished with HJ. very good fun conversation after nice sweaty sex. shes going on vacation at the end of June for two weeks.

f- 9
b- 9 (fake Ds, great ass)
a- 9 s- 8

Saturday 1 am- Didi at Rosemarri

I planned to go to rappongi but RM young mama stops me in parking lot telling me she has many pretty girls working, so I follow her up the stairs in the door, and on the couch sit about 10 girls most about 7 or 8 in looks. she then tells me to choose one. I was speechless, I never had the Chris Tucker Rush Hour line up before. so I pick the hottest one with the biggest rack. Come to find out I've picked Didi, remembered the name from past posts. She is a stunner. went to the room and talked for a little bit, I sensed a bit of an attitude so I got a little worried. got to the shower room, nothing special at first but on the flip we talked a little and I made her laugh, gave a nice HJ, just to get me hard, . I guess she loosened up a bit because she was really nice back in the room. got a really nice massage, good pressure with her using her elbows and putting her weight on me to crack my back. asked if I was ready, and to turn over. rubbed her perfect tits all over me, with light licks and kisses. gave a great cbj, actually one of the best I've gotten. got on top for cg as I held on to her bouncing tits, told me her nips are sensitive so not to play too hard. switched to doggie, so I got to pound her sweet ass. She's great with the moaning, not over the top, probably fake, but who cares. I didnt want to pop yet so I told her to turn over for mish. this girl is awesome, gave me that "fuck me" stare with a little smile, which just made my head spin. Going at it mish for a little while with her playing with her clit. She has great pussy control cause I can feel her squeezing me every few pumps. What made it even better was that they played hip-hop on the radio and this girl moves to the beat of the music. finally gives me a HJ, she grabs my hand to play with her pussy. The whole time giving me words of encouragement to make me pop. After she cleans me up we talk for a little and asks if I can come back to see her next time I visit. told her the chances are pretty good.

f- 9. 75 she's by far the hottest mp girl I've seen
b- 9. 5 perfect DDs, which seemed pretty real (yes, I like um big)
a- 8. 5 after a little lightening up s- 8

I've had better, but this girl is so beautiful, I'd most likely repeat just based on her looks alone. Guys, as we all know YMMV, and we all have different tastes in the looks dept. this is just my contribution to the group and my thanks for all your great reports. planning to be back in a month or so, so until then, be safe and happy mongering. (and please don't wear out Didi. LOL)

Kay Bee

06-07-05, 11:55

Went last night around 1:00 am . I don't care for the setup, they don't have a lineup like other places, they just send a random girl into the room. If you don't like her you're in the akward position of having to send her back and wait for another. This is has become the primary problem for me too. Even the line up can be as awkward as sending one back and waiting for another. I'm starting to resign myself to moving from AMP to AMP, as I am not likely to compromise these days. Every compromise has been a dissapointment. To minimize wasted time, now I always take a *good* look at every girl who is sitting out front. Not just a glance, but a thorough inspection. If there is not a solid pick from those, I don't ask, I tell mama unequivocally what I want--her best looking and nicest girl.

Even then it doesn't always work. Stopped by Pine Tree Friday, and told mama I wanted her nicest and best looking young girl. Of course she promised with a big smile, and then promptly sent in a full on overweight busty but saggy chick. Mama was bummed whan I ran into her in the hallway and asked for her to return my room fee. She tried and tried to get me to take another girl, but I patted her on the back and asked her nicely to take care on me better next time. These operations make money at everyone elses expense, so I am becoming less tolerant of these games that they have been getting away with. They need to be more service oriented and provide a full lineup from the get go. The problem is they know when they have a lame ass lineup ,and they will sucker you, knowing that the majority of guys will take what is sent to the room even to their dissapointment.

Devorzon

06-07-05, 16:10

This is has become the primary problem for me too. Even the line up can be as awkward as sending one back and waiting for another. Yeah, the lineup can be akward too; usually I just walk by them and take a quick look. I don't actually stand there and look them over, that would feel weird. This is partially why I just want to find a good provider, so I can just go back to her. I don't like suprises. Ever since Sarah left PT I've been looking and haven't found anyone as good as her.

On another note, does anyone pass up the really good looking hot ones? I noticed they in general give the worst service, so I usually go for the average ones. Sounds stupid but from all my years of doing this i've been more disappointed with the hot girls than any other. I think either their rushing because they are in demand, or they have that attitude that because their so hot looking they don't have to do much, just the fact that their spending time in the room with you should be enough.

Member #2438

06-07-05, 16:32

Well, Yuri looked plain because she didn't have any makeup on. IfIi had to choose her from a lineup, I probably would have choosen someone else. She wasn't all that bad, just not a stunner. She was basically flat, a cup, nothing enhanced at all. Rubi on the other hand was cute, to me. From what I could tell, she was basically flat too.Please attach the link, I would like to see the photo you are mentiioned on here.

Thanks

Member #2650

06-08-05, 00:19

IAnd for those who skip the TS: Why? If you don't want the TS and think that most of these places are dirty then maybe you should be going to see an escort instead of an AMP? then you'll get your full hour. For me, part of the experience at an AMP is the shower.The AMPs have always had much more of a selection than the escorts available in Honolulu; hardly any Asians. Many of the escorts charge more, and some even require you to shower alone by yourself first anyway. I frequent both, and sometimes I like to get the full hour with the girl in the room (nice to give them a gift of "salty nuts"). Also, the table showers aren't nearly as good as they were before when the places were called "Body Shampoo" parlors (body to body). I personally like the table shower, but sometimes I just want to f@#k and be dirty.

2650

Member #2650

06-08-05, 00:39

Also, there is that blonde at Rosemarri--the one that is a bit overweight but has beautiful hair and a cute face. I had a long wait for a room Friday night, and she kept sneaking peaks while I was sitting there. In fact, everytime I go there she always stares when I walk in. It feels strange because most of the girls are surreptitious in their glances.I think the one you speak of is the "Heather" from Orchid that I reviewed last September. I would recommend against her if she hasn't toned up dramatically, but she does have that pretty face.

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kataichimpo

06-08-05, 04:51

Excuse me, but where did I say there was a photo?

Please attach the link, I would like to see the photo you are mentiioned on here.

Thanks

kataichimpo

06-08-05, 04:52

Are you serious? There was body to body shampoo here before? Only place I've ever experienced full body to body shampoo was in Thailand.

The AMPs have always had much more of a selection than the escorts available in Honolulu; hardly any Asians. Many of the escorts charge more, and some even require you to shower alone by yourself first anyway. I frequent both, and sometimes I like to get the full hour with the girl in the room (nice to give them a gift of "salty nuts"). Also, the table showers aren't nearly as good as they were before when the places were called "Body Shampoo" parlors (body to body). I personally like the table shower, but sometimes I just want to f@#k and be dirty.

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Kay Bee

06-08-05, 12:19

On another note, does anyone pass up the really good looking hot ones? I noticed they in general give the worst service, so I usually go for the average ones. Sounds stupid but from all my years of doing this i've been more disappointed with the hot girls than any other. I think either their rushing because they are in demand, or they have that attitude that because their so hot looking they don't have to do much, just the fact that their spending time in the room with you should be enough.Not all the hotties have bad attitude, but what you are saying probably holds true for the hotties with the "hottie" attitude. There are a few very pretty girls out there with great attitudes and service as well, but they are hard to find. Finding them is my current and only mission at this point in time.

Member #2438

06-08-05, 13:14

Excuse me, but where did I say there was a photo?Sorry Dud, I meant asked MR. Honoluman; Becaue I do know what Rubi looks like. I just wanted see the photo from him.

Sorry again,

Tx and enjoy.

Originally Posted by Honoluman

Kataichimpo,

How did Yuri look? Did she have a scar on her lower back? Did she have a nice rack? How about Rubi? If they who I think they used to own R7 before their attorney lost the lease. Let me know. See the picture I posted in the Photo Gallery. I meant to asked honoluman.

S Hunter

06-08-05, 14:25

S Hunter

06-08-05, 14:38

Since I asked for a list, I guess I will start.

Unfortunately, as I wrack my brain to review the past decade that I have been mongering, I can only remember a few total hotties and I can't remember them giving exceptional service with a great attitude.

Surprisingly, the one experience I have had with a provider who was about a 9 in looks and tight body and a 10 in service and attitude wasn't even in Hawaii. Her name was Kuji, an young petite asian spinner in the Bay Area. She greeted me at the door with hugs and DFKs and jumped in the shower with me and got us both clean, had lots of hugging, DFKing and mutual touching in the shower. She was very friendly.

After we got in bed, had CBJ, DATY with findering, CFS from all angles. Man, I don't know why I didn't pop, she was so hot. After a fair amount of time, she took the cover off and I got it all BB with her finishing up with BBBJ with lots of hot looks and juicy slurping while I fingered her some more. Session went over time, but she was ok with it. Sent me off with more hugs and DFKs.

She was a GFE too. I wish she would move here. Well, maybe not. I would go broke. She sounds like the kind of girl Kay Bee is looking for and I want to find in Hawaii.

Member #2650

06-08-05, 19:12

Since I asked for a list, I guess I will start...
Surprisingly, the one experience I have had with a provider who was about a 9 in looks and tight body and a 10 in service and attitude wasn't even in Hawaii.S,

What's up with that? Making a list to share, and the girl is not even here? Isn't that almost like the "no naming names" type of thing? I got other favorites in other places too, but I left them on the other area threads and/or boards...how are we supposed to enjoy Kuji too when we are too "broke dick" to even pay the 50/150 standard let alone fly to the Bay Area? LOL

2650

Member #2650

06-08-05, 19:43

Are you serious? There was body to body shampoo here before? Only place I've ever experienced full body to body shampoo was in Thailand.Am I dating myself? I can't be the only guy to remember those places can I?

All the spots used to be called "Body Shampoo Parlors" before, and I guess just the name itself compelled them to do the body to body thing just like the "Soaplands" in Japan, then the politicians outlawed them; shame on them! We still are one of the best states in terms of quality and selection (especially for Asians) even though we don't have the body shampoo anymore.

Kay Bee

06-08-05, 23:14

Kay Bee,

Good luck on your quest. Just make sure you share these hotties NAMES and PLACES as well as your experiences when you find them so that your secret brotherhood of fellow mongers can enjoy them too. That is the holy grail for most of us after all. I for one want to experience them in the flesh and not vicariously through someone else's adventures.
SHave you seen Suzie at VIP? I took a peek there last Friday night and she was kneeling at the sofa doing something or another. She is definitely a dolly in my book--a real sweetheart. She is tall, slim, shapely, cute, with naturalish breasts and long legs, and has a good attitude as well. The only fault I can think of is the fake moaning, but all things considered, that is barely worth mentioning. Almost ended my search there but decided to continue the quest.

Hey S,

What are the AMPs that you tend to visit the most? Mine at the moment are VIP and Rosemarri. I find the variety and atmosphere to be the best at those places. I haven't been to VIP for a month, and cannot comment of their inventory other than Suzie. I feel really constrained about going to other places as I do not like the way many allow their girls to operate, and some of the mamas seem like they come straight out of hell.

Kay Bee

06-08-05, 23:26

I think the one you speak of is the "Heather" from Orchid that I reviewed last September. I would recommend against her if she hasn't toned up dramatically, but she does have that pretty face.

2650Whoa, that review reads like a scarey movie. I like haole girls to tell the truth, but not for P4P. Its self-defeating and there is slim chance that they will have the Asian style that most of us seem to be looking for. Its funny because while I was waiting, she was eating something out of a bag and she knocked it out in short order. I remember thinking: damn girl!

Garsta

06-09-05, 00:12

Hey dudes,

Great site and excellent reports. Been out of the hobby for a while and only recently got back in. Went to Top last week and got Rose. She sure ain't the prettiest thing and has some miles on her. she does have some decent sized tits. Anyway, everything covered, no asian, russian, or DATY, standard positions. She asked for $15. but told her I only had $12. While she is nice, I don't think I would repeat. Think I would of been better off seeing Min Hee at Mika's.

By the way, does anyone know what happend to Choi the bj queen? She used to work at 1930 spa with Min Hee back in the day.

Member #2650

06-09-05, 06:43

[QUOTE=Kay Bee]I like haole girls to tell the truth, but not for P4P. Its self-defeating and there is slim chance that they will have the Asian style that most of us seem to be looking for.[QUOTE]Two words young man...Ling Ling! Beautiful faced haole girl with Asian style service at VIP. At lease it was for me though YMMV as usual. I like haole girls alot myself...hell, I like all of them! It's gotta be that evolutional development of man thing. Spread that seed.

2650

S Hunter

06-09-05, 15:39

Sorry 2650,

I didn't mean it as a tease. My point was I haven't found that here and would love to. I would appeciate anyone steering me to that kind of service and looks in our town.

We can get that kind of service here, but it is usually from the oldies and not the young hotties. I did try to talk her into coming to Hawaii but was not successful.

KB,

As to AMPs I visit... I think it depends. I try to go to various places, but will go back from time to time to where I know what to expect.

Recently, I tried Tengoku to get Lucky, but she was on vacation and I got sent someone much less quality and probably more size. I like Nana at Ohana. She has a great body and is pretty good looking too. She was fun, but no FS. Her massage was very strong though. On a lark, I called China Mary to see who was available. As she went down the list, I decided to try Lolita and made an appointment. She wasn't young or good looking and the massage was kind of lame, but she sucked my dick good. I guess I can't complain about everything.

I guess that is the recent stuff. I think I have tried about 60% of the AMPs in town and will probably try out some of the newer ones like Arisoo, etc in the future.

I also want to try out a lady I saw in the Pennysavers. I think she is Pepsi that 2xDiamond wrote about before. It intrigued me as he said she squirted and I only had that experience one time from my first AMP provider about 10 years or so ago. It was a tiny squirt while I was eating her out and fingering her. Kind of took me by surprise at I thought she pissed on me, but it wasn't pee. Then I saw some Japanese porn where these babes are squirting up a storm and it was hot.

Anyway, my post is getting too long. I look forward to reading yours.

S

kataichimpo

06-10-05, 03:48

Maybe you are dating yourself. Can anyone else verify that back in the day when things were called "body shampoo parlours" that there was actually BODY TO BODY showers? Because as far as I recall, I never got it.

Am I dating myself? I can't be the only guy to remember those places can I?

All the spots used to be called "Body Shampoo Parlors" before, and I guess just the name itself compelled them to do the body to body thing just like the "Soaplands" in Japan, then the politicians outlawed them; shame on them! We still are one of the best states in terms of quality and selection (especially for Asians) even though we don't have the body shampoo anymore.

Member #3111

06-10-05, 05:52

Just returned from a visit to Smile Spa, first time there. Had a girl named GiGi, late 30's, short hair, about 5'. Not too skinny with natural b cups. TS was short and not very good. Back to the room, no massage, 1 minute bj, followed by very uninspired CG, Mish. Finish, dropped $1.2 and left. Would not repeat.

L - 6
S - 5
A - 5

Strong Mojo

06-10-05, 12:41

Are you serious? There was body to body shampoo here before? Only place I've ever experienced full body to body shampoo was in Thailand.

Kataichimpo:

I was too young to get B2B shampoo when they were popular here in HNL. I did receive this type of service from Tomato at PT. You have to ask for it though. I'm not sure if she's still there.

Anyone else receive B2B from others in HNL?

SM

Jack First

06-10-05, 18:23

Maybe you are dating yourself. Can anyone else verify that back in the day when things were called "body shampoo parlours" that there was actually BODY TO BODY showers? Because as far as I recall, I never got it.Just a thought, but you might consider toning the accusational feel of your posts down a little.

About 10 years ago a lot of the amps' names either had the words "body shampoo" or "relaxation" in it. As far as the service, I don't remember it being a standard thing with body to body table showers, but just like today, YMMV.

Honoluman

06-10-05, 18:29

I have not had that since I was in DC. I asked here but the girls said no. I asked why and it was not allowed to give shower and if they got into it they would get in trouble. I had a Michelle in DC, great big man made boobs, no waist but a decent rear. She was here not too long ago but she never offered it to me here. It is something to try once. She jerked me off with her soapy boobs. Then of course we did our exercise (in DC they are work out places). Oh my god could she give head and she had a tight p*ssy. She is about 41 now. I think her birthday is in July so not yet 41 (in Korea she is already). Just remembering the good ol days. Have fun be safe.

Belut Boy

06-10-05, 23:18

First time post and thought I'd reply this. I got a B2B when I went Smile last year from a girl named Ruby. I was pleasantly surprised. I wonder if she's still there.

Bangkolulu

06-11-05, 02:24

I also want to try out a lady I saw in the Pennysavers. I think she is Pepsi that 2xDiamond wrote about before.There was a Pepsi at VIP this week. I only heard her name called to the lineup, but didn't see what she looked like.

Asianlover4u

06-11-05, 12:48

There is this one lady I forgot her name but when she gives you the body shampoo, she does go body to body.

She said she was japanese, but I think she might be Korean. She was about 5'5" natural c cups and slightly chubby.

Geeko

06-11-05, 22:55

I got B2B earlier this year at Smile from Angie. Didn't even ask for it but as soon as we went to the shower room and she had me lying on the table she got undressed and got on top of me. Never enjoyed the table shower as much as that time. I keep checking back, as she left for vacation but hasn't returned. If she turns up at Smile or elsewhere, somebody post so we can all benefit.

I think Tera at Rosemarri will do B2B. Saw her once and she was about to, at least I think so as she was going to get undressed in the shower but then someone called out for the shower and she said we would go play in the room instead. Don't know what that means or what it could have been, but she wasn't my type and haven't repeated, though she had a good attitude.

kataichimpo

06-11-05, 23:20

Well excuse me Jackm but if b2b ever existed here, I would be curious to find out as I've been going to amp's for over 10 years and never heard it existed here.

Obviously from people's latest posts, it does and seems like in recent times too.

And just because its in the name doesn't mean anything. Again, sorry Jack if I was being accusatory in my tone but I type the way I type.

Just a thought, but you might consider toning the accusational feel of your posts down a little.

About 10 years ago a lot of the amps' names either had the words "body shampoo" or "relaxation" in it. As far as the service, I don't remember it being a standard thing with body to body table showers, but just like today, YMMV.

Member #2650

06-12-05, 09:02

I've been going to amp's for over 10 years and never heard it existed here.

And just because its in the name doesn't mean anything.Katai, when I did the math, I realized I have been going for about 20 years, so just because you've been going for 10 years doesn't mean anything.

What's the big deal anyway? As you know, YMMV; then and now.

As far as the names were concerned, I was just trying to explain why I thought it was prevalent during the time. You can take my reasoning with a grain of salt if you want, but it was there.

BTW, I've probably done all the chicks you do, and if you think you dirtied them more than me, I don't give a f#@k. You can be the man in your own mind if you want. I'm just trying to be generous and help others in the hobby because I appreciate when I get the help.

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Panda B

06-12-05, 21:19

I decided to stop by Tokyo (Top) Relaxation today and mama wanted me to try the new girl. Her name is Coco. She had nice breasts with an alright face and was a little soft around the middle. She gave me CBJ then took off the cover for some BBFS. She made sure that I "come outside". Started with some CG then finished off in doggie. Had my table shower after the deed was done. Got me all dried off, got dressed and I was on my way. Her service was fairly poor compared to the rest of the gang there, but you never know until you try. I will not be repeating. I think I'll stick with Mama Jasmine or perhaps Sophia.

A - 7
F - 5
B - 5
S - 7

Devorzon

06-13-05, 16:28

Went last night, had 3 girls (all korean) sitting on the couch. I picked the best looking one, Rose. About 5ft with smallish boobs, probably in her late 20's. After the shower gave an average massage. While still on my stomach she began to kiss and lick my back, then did some licking on my asshole. Went through all the positions, though she doesn't like daty, if you're into that. She allows boob sucking which I like. Overall good time, but still looking the next "Sarah", so I will not repeat.

Can someone please post what "asian", "greek" , and "russian" is?

Thanks!

Tiantain

06-14-05, 00:21

Member #2650

06-14-05, 09:44

Can someone please post what "asian", "greek" , and "russian" is?"asian" is what you got from Rose when she went down on your bum or analingus, "greek" is anal, and "russian" is when you do your thing to and on her boobs.

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AliasDonkey

06-14-05, 10:19

Have been reading this forum for the past year and got lots of good lead on places to go. “Thanks”. I haven’t socialized the amps as of late and was wondering where the happening amps would be?

Been to R7 and smile , business as usual , anybody got a recommendation for a amp with a decent line up?

Rosemarri?

Thanks

Ps I guess I do have one thing in common with KayBee in that I do like the lookers LOL. But I dont pay as much as he does LOL.

AliasDonkey

06-14-05, 10:23

Kay Bee

06-14-05, 22:08

AD,

You might want to check out Hana at VIP. She's a petite sweetheart, with small naturalish breasts and is fairly cute. Service is good, unrushed.

I think I should add that the last time I was there, it looks like VIP has been taken over by the Lingling mafia--a small handful of SW-style non-Korean chicks. Kind of brings the place down a couple of notches, IMO. If you ever see and *hear* all of them sitting together out front talking jive, you'll know what I am talking about.

Waiman

06-15-05, 04:27

Saw Rose last week and i think she is at least mid to late 30's. Went there around 4:30 am and saw one girl sittng on the couch and was greeted by the mama. She led me to the room and wanted me to take the girl on the sofa, I told her no as she was not a looker. Mama then brought 2 girls rose and marie and said these were the only girls left. Marie was a little more chunky than I liked so I picked Rose. She was just about to go to sleep and she had already taken off her makeup. She is still nice but maybe looks younger with makeup. She proceeded to give me a shower and back to the room. No massage was given and got strait to business. CBJ and CFS was lackluster and sent me on my way. Maybe it was late hence the bad service but I would not repeat. She should have at least offered a half ass massage then I would have considered going back. L7 S6 A5 M0

Kay Bee

06-15-05, 23:50

Member #2650

06-16-05, 03:38

I think I should add that the last time I was there, it looks like VIP has been taken over by the Lingling mafia--a small handful of SW-style non-Korean chicks. Kind of brings the place down a couple of notches, IMO. If you ever see and *hear* all of them sitting together out front talking jive, you'll know what I am talking about.Are you saying you don't like Lingling? Damn! I find that hard to believe. She is such a sweetheart. Her face has to be the pretiest in there; Korean or not. She also gave me some great GFEs to the max. I guess to each his own. That's good too. One less mongerer to be pounding my girl. I think I know what you are saying about their click, but the Koreans talk shit too, but you just don't know what it means. They could be saying, "you've got the smallest dick ever you f@%king cheap bastard!", and you'll be like, "I love it when you speak Korean to me." LOL

2650

Older Guy

06-16-05, 07:51

Hi guys,

I finally got the url for this site. I was lost in the wilderness at brand X, you know, XXX.worldsexguide.com. Info there was really slow. I really missed you guys ! ! !

S Hunter - I see you're still doing your thing. I saw an ad "Massage by Aesuk & Jennifer" at CC #102. Did Top change its name to Tokyo?

Anyway guys, its nice to be back.

Stay safe,
OG

haynbraddah

06-17-05, 05:39

Are you saying you don't like Lingling? Damn! I find that hard to believe. She is such a sweetheart. Her face has to be the pretiest in there; Korean or not. She also gave me some great GFEs to the max. I guess to each his own. That's good too. One less mongerer to be pounding my girl. I think I know what you are saying about their click, but the Koreans talk shit too, but you just don't know what it means. They could be saying, "you've got the smallest dick ever you f@%king cheap bastard!", and you'll be like, "I love it when you speak Korean to me." LOL

2650I must fully concur with 2650. I have visited Lingling numerous times and she never fails to give me the GFE. She's a definate repeat. With the amount of Korean girls working at AMPs its alway nice to see others, like the Lingling mafia. At least you know what they're saying cause you can understand them and at least you know they know what you're saying too.

Older Guy

06-17-05, 19:22

there is that blonde at Rosemarri--the one that is a bit overweight but has beautiful hair and a cute face.

KB,

I haven't been since the name changed from Kiku to Rosemarri but if its the same girl I've visited, she went by the name of Ruby. Short blonde, little chubby but cute and I liked her doggie the best.

I saw a discussion about Prices in here.

It is in our best interest to keep the prices down. Alway insist that the last time you visited you only paid .4 and that it was .4 at CS or PT or Smile or wherever. Only pay the .5 if you have to. They've been trying to raise the price to .6 in most of the places so stand your ground as long as you can without pissing the mama off.

Then after your visit, try giving only the 1.0 if the girl insists on 1.5, then give her another .2, if she acts like she is pissed, then give her another .1 unless you really want to repeat with her then give her .2.

With either of these, you can also try the old, "Oh I'm sorry. Next time I'll bring more."

I keep a small fabric/velcro wallet I bought at a flea market in my car that I take in with me that I put only the amounts I'm talking about. That way, I can show the empty wallet (with my drivers license and one credit card and a picture of my dog) to them and not get grief over "Oh you have more there!"

LOOK guys, their job is to try to get as much as they can and our job is to pay as little as possible. We're all play that game. Try a little planning and do a little work to keep the prices down. That's our job and remember we're fucking them over anyway ! ! ! LOL ! ! !

Anybody got any other suggestions as to how to keep the prices down?

Stay safe,
OG

Honolulu Chas

06-17-05, 21:25

I spoke with Jasmine today and she tells me Sophia is gone and probably not coming back. So now it's just Rose and herself working there. By the way, they are located at #109 Century Center; the new phone number is 946-6070.

808skorpio

06-17-05, 23:58

808skorpio

06-18-05, 00:46

Hi,

Newb here. Any suggestions from the vets?

Six Cents

06-18-05, 03:27

Went to Rosemarri looking for Didi, but the Mama said she took a "long vacation." I had a Thai girl named April instead. She's about 5'0, 105lbs, has about a full B cup (fake) and a pretty cute face.
Overall:
damage: 40/140
L=8.5
A=9
Extra: slight BBBJ. She was very hesitant.

Waiman

06-18-05, 03:46

Went to check out top ealy on thursday to see if someone finally answers the door. Got there at 4:30pm and was geeted by mama. Looked like she just woke up as she kept rubbing her face and had no makeup on. Se took me to the room and brought a girl that was a little to big for my liking. Mama then came back and offered to service me. She also was a little old for my me, might have been better with makeup. I left contemplating what to do now. Since it was alittle early I decided to go somewhere else later at night.

Decided to go mongering around 12am this time and went to vip. Got Yuri, she is about 5'1" 105lb but looks taller with her shoes. She gave me a shower and massage, then got down to business. cbj followed by cfs in cg,mish, and doggie. Was okay but only average, probably will not repeat with her as everything was basic. Was there for around 1hr 15 min as I had to wait for the shower, I guess mama didn't count that against me since I go there often. Finally felt like a "VIP" with mama even though she still doesn't service me. haha!! L7,S6,A7 50/130

Waiman

06-18-05, 04:02

Didn't see this new thread when I posted on amp's. Went there yesterday and finally got in, I thought that the rest of the girls were not there yet when mama said that it was only the two of them right now. I guess the other girl is named Rose who works there now. I wish they were a little younger as I would have liked to partake in the great experiences that other people have had in the past. I guess I have to put up with the lack of service with the younger girls out there.

Older Guy

06-18-05, 07:09

808skorpio,

Note that the last 2 poster paid less the the "going" rate of 2.0. samter paid only 1.3 tip and Six Cents paid .4 house fee. If you combined the 2, .4/1.3 = 1.7. Six Cents paid .4/1.4 = 1.8 which is also pretty good but could have been less. Some guys get away with 1.2 or even 1.0 tips.

When you visit, the important thing is to treat them like real ladies. Always be polite but firm, generous with compliments, please and thank you for everything, and nice attitude always. In the AMPs, don't put the tip on the table before the main event (easier for them to NOT feel like a w***e). Slip the tip into her hand afterwards (count it out before you go in) with some discretion even if you know there is nobody else in the room. If she counts it and then tell you the tip is more, use the excuses I gave earlier unless you really want to repeat with her in near future then give her your last .1 or .2 that you were going to use eat and buy gas.

Aways take a shower if offered or ask if you can have a shower because, NOW GUYS THINK - how would you like to get in bed with a dirty, smelly girl. The girls like to be clean themselves and normally clean themselves up after each client. Think about it when was the last time an amp girl had a real stink pussy? I always take a shower before even if I just took one before coming out for the night because it shows the girls some respect.

Don't go there when you are drunk on your ass if possible. Go when you are just feeling good, get some, then go back to the bar and drink to your heart's content (also should cost you less in buying drinks in the bar since you have partial satisfaction).

These things make it less likely that they will insist on pushing the price up or easier for them to back down from an increase demand.

Hope these help.

Stay safe,
OG

p.s. While it is nice to have a young 18 or 19 y.o., cutie once in a while, there are some of us that see a 35 to 45 y.o. as a young girl also relative to our age.

Kay Bee

06-18-05, 12:44

KB,
I keep a small fabric/velcro wallet I bought at a flea market in my car that I take in with me that I put only the amounts I'm talking about. That way, I can show the empty wallet (with my drivers license and one credit card and a picture of my dog) to them and not get grief over "Oh you have more there!"
Stay safe,
OGOG,

Do you really do that? I mean, opening an empty wallet as a way of apeasing a girl who is demanding more money? That sounds so undignified, almost vaudevillian. If my actions are fair and just, then neither will I accept those actions to be questioned, nor will I give any such premeditated excuses.

LOOK guys, their job is to try to get as much as they can and our job is to pay as little as possible. We're all play that game. Try a little planning and do a little work to keep the prices down. That's our job and remember we're fucking them over anyway, LOL.

Then after your visit, try giving only the 1.0 if the girl insists on 1.5, then give her another .2, if she acts like she is pissed, then give her another .1 unless you really want to repeat with her then give her .2.

With either of these, you can also try the old, "Oh I'm sorry. Next time I'll bring more."Again, we are all different, and are not exactly looking for the same things. We all relate to the world in our own way. This is not a job. I have an open mind and welcome you to pursue your AMP experiences in your own manner. I have my own style and will do the same. As stated before, the minimum I pay is 150, and for that I expect a good attitude and absolutely no rush. Personally, I find the cycle of haggling and dissatisfaction (on the girls part) that you describe to be extremely distasteful. Such an aftermath would completely ruin the session for me, and is something that I try to avoid and will not tolerate.

kataichimpo

06-18-05, 14:45

It is definately reasonable and what most of us pay. DO NOT pay what KB paid. That is ridiculously overpaid. I don't care if she's the cutest thing on earth. And the more you pay doesn't necessarily mean better service. All it does is drive the price up because they start to expect it.

Is that reasonable? From what I read it is.

Kay Bee

06-18-05, 18:53

Are you saying you don't like Lingling? Damn! I find that hard to believe. She is such a sweetheart. Her face has to be the pretiest in there; Korean or not. She also gave me some great GFEs to the max. I guess to each his own. That's good too. One less mongerer to be pounding my girl. I think I know what you are saying about their click, but the Koreans talk shit too, but you just don't know what it means. They could be saying, "you've got the smallest dick ever you f@%king cheap bastard!", and you'll be like, "I love it when you speak Korean to me." LOL

2650Actually I like Lingling, and have seen her once. She's a sweetie for sure. Her friends though, are somthing else.

Member #2650

06-19-05, 06:49

I am planning on hitting up 350 which i believe is the former vip is that right?

Is 'Loess Spa' on Waikamilo near n King an Amp? If so any reports? I feel have fairly scoured threw most of the reports and older files checking if I missed a thing.

Also I am leery of bbbj, as I see many on here are not worried about. Is that common? Would I be rude if I tld the girl to put a cap on it?You are right, 350 is the former VIP.

Loess is not an AMP. It is a Spa, and it even has a sign that says women only.

As for the BBBJ, a few of the providers and many of the hobbyists think it is safe, but you can catch and transmit almost all the STDs that you can through intercourse. With that said, I do not think that is rude to the girl if you ask for the cover, and I think they may actually be more comfortable if you do ask. Then again you're missing out on a BBBJ!

2650

Member #2650

06-19-05, 07:15

I finally went to this place. It has been open a couple of months now, and it looks like an old house from the outside, but the inside looks very new. I peeked inside the screen door, and one of the young mamas from the VIP (Chanel) comes to me in her bikini type outfit. I chose her, and had a pretty good time. I think she is really hot with nice service. Everything covered but no rush type of attitude. I would repeat. There were a couple of other girls there I wanted to try, and there a few that I wanted to stay away from, but all in all it looks like another viable option for another place to go on those lonely nights.

2650

Kay Bee

06-19-05, 14:15

DO NOT pay what KB paid. That is ridiculously overpaid. Buzz, buzz, buzz. WHACK, SPLAT.

Damn mosquitos.

AliasDonkey

06-20-05, 08:24

New hobbyist here. Lurker for some time.

I am planning on hitting up 350 which i believe is the former vip is that right?
also may try queen bee?

What do you think of me just telling the mama i always paid $40 even though I have never been to an amp before. just lie. haha. But politelly and smile. Hoping to come out of the amp with .4 for the door and 1.2 to 1.5.

Is that reasonable? From what I read it is.

Is 'Loess Spa' on Waikamilo near n King an Amp? If so any reports? I feel have fairly scoured threw most of the reports and older files checking if I missed a thing.

Any suggestions for this newb? Also I am leery of bbbj, as I see many on here are not worried about. Is that common? Would I be rude if I tld the girl to put a cap on it?Went to queen bee last month the selection of girls was so so. So if your like KayBee and into the LA 10 girls this is not the place to go.

Did get good service from the girl there. Sorry no name to give kind of drunk and I’m suffering from short term memory loss lol.

But I was suffering from a slight case of whisky d*ck and the girl said lets try this again, so she got out another beanie cap and this time I made it a point to keep it up * yuck yuck* finish my deed and receipt read:

.5/1.50 L:7 A:8.5 S:7.5 M:6.5

If anyone has a problem with the 1.5 well you only got yourselves to blame. From past posting that I read most were paying this price and I took it as the standard until recent postings. But she did give me an instant replay so I think she deserved the 1.5 at least.

Happy snipe hunting to all.

Kay Bee

06-20-05, 23:58

If anyone has a problem with the 1.5 well you only got yourselves to blame. From past posting that I read most were paying this price and I took it as the standard until recent postings. But she did give me an instant replay so I think she deserved the 1.5 at least.Hopefully no one will rag on you about paying $150. I see it as a personal choice and am fairly suprised at all of the control freak types that tend to crawl out of the woodwork on this issue. I pay $150 for practical and personal reasons. As mentioned before, it would totally piss me off if the girl were to ask for more. Paying 150 pretty much avoids that issue. The other reason is empathy and respect. The girls that I tend to choose are usually nice people who for whatever reason have gotten themselves caught up in this lifestyle. How would any of us feel if we made a living taking it up the cornhole and we keep running into customers whose main purpose in life is to get a piece of your ass for the cheapest price possible?

I'm not advocating that everyone should pay 150, on the contrary, pay what you think is right and feel secure with your *own* decision. By the same token, lets leave this retarded control-freak mentality behind already. Live and let live. Nothing that is said and done here is going to affect what goes on in the real world. I believe that there is room for all of us to play it the way we choose and the fact is, the world is so diverse that we really have very little control over anything.

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Member #2650

06-21-05, 03:09

Went to queen bee last month the selection of girls was so so.

Did get good service from the girl there. Sorry no name to give kind of drunk and I’m suffering from short term memory loss lol.AD,

I think you are taking about Golden Queen, as Queen Bee is a sports bar on the other side of Queen Street.

Also, do you have at least a description of the girl? She sounds like a trooper, as some of the girls I see when I am drunk tend to lose their patience.

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Chubs

06-21-05, 08:36

If anyone has a problem with anything that I have said or done, keep it off the public forum already. Send me a PM and I will arrange a personal meeting so that we can straighten things out face to face. That means you, kataichimpo, or anyone else who feels the need. I'm giving you the opportunity to put up or STFU right now.LOL, a personal meeting? Now that is just ridiculous, which isn't even worth the price of admission. Think every monger is a weak, frail individual who is tight with their cash? You should really relax, that is unless you pack a piece or you're LE.

Kay Bee

06-21-05, 10:13

kataichimpo,

I got your PM, but all you did was to call me an idiot and spew a few f*ck yous here and there. Aren't we going to meet to hash this out? Wait a minute, let me take a not so wild guess. You're 40+ years old right? You still live at home with your parents, and the reason you are so obssessed with pricing is because of your fixed income. Now I guess I can realize the difficulties of trying to afford the services of theses AMPs when all you have is your weekly allowance from your parents, but lets be reasonable. Not all of us are in the same boat, kataichimpo.

Kataichimpo, You initiated this situation by the continual posting of your snide remarks towards me. Here's your golden opportunity to get out from behind that computer and do something real. What I expect from you kataichimpo, is for you to cut all of this crap and to conduct yourself in a civil manner when posting to this forum. If you choose to send me another PM, try to drop the adolescent drivel and include some contact info so that we can touch bases somewhere.

S Hunter

06-21-05, 14:38

Kay Bee, Kataichimpo,

You guys sound like a couple of girls pecking at each other. Enough already! No more petting sniping and on with the business of the forum...talking about hotties we can bang.

Older Guy

06-21-05, 19:42

Just added Kay Bee to my Ignore list

Stay safe,
OG

Chubs

06-22-05, 08:35

I coulda sworn, with my ILH education in reading comprehension, that a certain someone wanted PMs and nothing in public forum and what does that certain someone do? Public forum outside of the PMs. That's really too bad. ha even age and homelife accusations are being made in public forum. I would actually like to see this one play out...for free though. No admission. Not because of this whole fixed income thing, but because like all dudes on here, we like to save money (for same vanilla services) and tip extra on our hostess (lol).

Member #2650

06-23-05, 08:27

Anyway, I went to Arisoo again and saw another girl. I forgot her name as I was pretty drunk. She was about 5'4", 118lbs, 34b(enhanced)x22x34, she had short black hair, and I think she was one of the mamas because she when she lead me to the room she asked me, "you gonna try one of my girls?" I told her I wanted her, and she said, "OK". Table shower was ok, but when we got to the room, she gave me a seriously toothy cbj. Everything else was pretty standard. I thought she was really hot when she was leading me to the room, but she seemed kind of plain when we were in the room. Her skin wasn't as tight as I like, and she gave me a little attitude when I was suffering from drunk dick, so I don't think I would recommend her. Anyone know her name? It was one of those that doubled itself like Gigi or something like that.

Member #1062

06-23-05, 10:07

I went to Ohana massage on Monday and had Kimberly. It was OK but Nana gives a much better, firmer massage, and is a lot more fun to chat with. Plus she has a nicer body. Damage was .5 plus .5.

After that I went to buy a bug zapper. Can't tell you the name of it, but it sure is purty and does an absolutely unrushed job. The guy wanted $50 for it but I whipped out my Coach wallet and gave him $200. If you have an issue with my zapper and want to meet in person, lets do it, you pesky age 50, live with your mother, limited income loser mosquito.

Kay Bee

06-23-05, 10:52

808skorpio

06-24-05, 00:14

Stick with the subject at hand guys. Though it would be funny to see 2 internet warriors trading words and blows over this.

What's funnier is poontang has been the start of many arguments, wars and deaths. so guys stop being so tuff and lets talk about something warm and wet.

Devorzon

06-24-05, 06:27

I called to see if they were open, since last time I went they were closed. Whoever answered the phone said their open and there's 7 girls available. When I got there, there was only 4 girls in the lobby area. All average looking Koreans. I picked one and waited in the room. After about 5 minutes she didn't come in so I went to check what's up and found out she wanted to finish eating. I think the mamasan thought I was going to leave or something, so she grabbed me and and asked what's the problem, and then escorted me back to the room. I asked her if she can just do me, and she said fine. I was suprised, since I was only half kidding, but I think she was better looking than the one I had originally picked. She said her name was Chantel. She's about 5'5" and 110 lbs with smallish boobs. Typical service, except she massages at the end instead of before. She allows DATY and nipple sucking. Anyway it was a pretty satisfying experience but probably won't go back until I try other places.

Kay Bee

06-25-05, 02:18

When I stopped by Arisoo a few fridays ago, I didn't see anything I liked. Then again, I am in super-choosy mode right now. The momma that led me to the room was older than the first impression, and had a red bikini top. There were no *young* hotties in sight.

Member #3111

06-25-05, 05:34

Stopped by Pink tonight, had a girl named MiMi. She was about 5'4", straight hair, kind of a long thin angular face, very attractive to me. She wasn't super thin but nice in the right places. She was about a B/C cup which I found out later was natural. The shower was okay, massage was about 3 minutes, bj was decent but wish it was longer. She hoped on for CG, then while mounted she swung her leg over to ride side saddle for a while, then she turned again about a quarter turn so she wasn't totally in a reverse CG position. The we switch to doggy for a few minutes, then on to mish. I was taking my time enjoying the view as to me she had a hot look. After about 5 minutes pumping in mish she slaps my ass hard and yells out "MAKE ME CUM!". Scared the shit out of me! Anyway, finished up a few minutes later. Overall service was lacking but good eye candy for me as I like em natural and not too skinny, but I wouldn't repeat with all the choices out there. No DATY, asian, tit sucking, etc.

L8
A6
S5

Seeker741

06-25-05, 08:46

I really shouldnt get invovled in the politics and conflicts here, but here is my perspective on the whole AMP thing.

1. Ive heard some discussion about paying 150 or not. For me personally I try not too, I have wondered if not paying 150 comprimises service and in my mind, in some cases it probably did, but in some it probably did not. I personally go in asking 100, they say 150, we meet some where in the middle ussually 130.

2. Ive heard about trying to pay 40 to the mamasan that greets you. I credit you if you do, you saved 10 bucks, but I wonder if that will negative affect the selection. Im thinking not as place probably run on a rotation and who ever is up for their turn goes. So this does not seem like bad move, personally I used to go with the coupons, china spa used to have it along with a few other places and have since closed down.

3. Ive heard about hot girls giving horrible service, I would say that in my experience that might be true, I remember once back in the day where a really hot hapa provider quoted 200 and would not budge, said she had too much respect for her self, then stated she would do 150 is i made it fast. I think this is consistent with the idea of her getting through as fast as possible because of high demand. This was a while back at the tokyo spa.

4. Ive heard about picking average girls as the way to go, in my experience, there might be some truth to that, but i wouldnt say always. A good example of this was a an average girl who was basically horrible due to the fact that at one point she probably was that hot girl at one time that could be a *****, but those days were gone and now there really wasnt any extra incentive to put up with the attitude. I would say go with average on fresh, young, ethuiastic,becasue if you the girl average because of milage you could run into issues, however, experienced/skilled could be a big plus also.

5. Older providers. My theory at one point was that younger customers (when I was one) were ussually paired with older providers. My thinking on this is that younger customers probably have less funds so they are set up with providers that require less. I also thought about the fact that if you get paired up with someone your age, you might run in to someone you know. Therefore younger providers are set up with older customers who can pay them.

6. I heard about Haole providers being poor in the service area. Let me say this, probably my best GFE in an AMP was with a Haole provider, it was a long time ago though at rainbow. She was totally unrushed, over an hour, alot of good conversation (which unless you speak their language, you don't always get from a asian provider) and she gave a massage both before and after, and with lotion. Best AMP experience ever, but this is probably the exception, not the rule. All my other experiences with Haole providers are about being rushed, getting paid, finishing quick.

6. Finally, the body shampoo thing. I think that my heaviest action was from like 96-00 and in that time I never experieced the B on B thing. Only the basic table showers, I think the shower thing is respectful and also give the provider a chane to get a look at the customer for obvious signs of disease or STD. I used to think DATY was a way to check it out, but if its bad then youre eating it. I have since stopped DATY all together, I guess when I was down there once I thought about putting my mouth in area of years of heavy traffic and it has psyched me out ever since.

Well thats my perspective on some on the current issues.

Debate me, flame me, say what you will, I don't mind.

But I would like to see if people agree with my ideas or disagree, so I don't mind being wrong about things, jsut wanted to bounce these ideas off of the board and see what you all think.

Happy seeking

Kay Bee

06-25-05, 11:14

Here's the 1st PM I recieved from chimp-boy. He sent this PM while disabling the ability of others to send PMs to his account.

FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING OVERPAYING IDIOT.In response, I posted the momma's boy message in the AMP forum, to which he sent a 2nd PM:

ok man, i'm sorry. lets meet face to face and hash it out then. this friday, 10pm at cache lounge. i'll be in the corner booth nearest to the bathroom. see you there!Again, I was unable to reach him by PM to confirm and give him my cell #. I showed up at Cache at 925 and waited till 1015. He never showed up. Needless to say, this guy is an irrelevant loser.

I've always acted in a civil manner till all of this crap started, believing that that is the best policy for interaction on the internet since we are all basically shielded by the safety of our keyboard connection to cyberspace. Member #1062 still sees fit to go out of his way to exercise his wit at my expense, comfortably seated at his computer and completely insulated from the consequences of the real world. How else am I to interpret his actions as anything other than that of a coward?

The mission statement for WSG covers a fairly broad spectrum:
The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.

There is no requirement to post names and other descriptions. There is no stated goal that the brotherhood of mongers must work together to keep the prices down. There is no rule that requires members to treat these women in any other manner other than we as individuals see fit. We are all different and not all of us are looking for exactly the same thing, nor do we all have the same approach in our interactions with the girls. I suspect that not all of us will go to the extreme and carry a fake wallet to show the girls that we are broke *after* we f*ck them. I think that the Forums new format allowing mutiple threads facilitates and encourages a broader spectrum of discussion within the stated goals of WSG.

With this post let's leave the crap behind, and return to a civil level of discourse.

Devorzon

06-25-05, 19:49

2. Ive heard about trying to pay 40 to the mamasan that greets you. I credit you if you do, you saved 10 bucks, but I wonder if that will negative affect the selection. Im thinking not as place probably run on a rotation and who ever is up for their turn goes. So this does not seem like bad move, personally I used to go with the coupons, china spa used to have it along with a few other places and have since closed down.

3. Ive heard about hot girls giving horrible service, I would say that in my experience that might be true, I remember once back in the day where a really hot hapa provider quoted 200 and would not budge, said she had too much respect for her self, then stated she would do 150 is i made it fast. I think this is consistent with the idea of her getting through as fast as possible because of high demand. This was a while back at the tokyo spa.

4. Ive heard about picking average girls as the way to go, in my experience, there might be some truth to that, but i wouldnt say always. A good example of this was a an average girl who was basically horrible due to the fact that at one point she probably was that hot girl at one time that could be a *****, but those days were gone and now there really wasnt any extra incentive to put up with the attitude. I would say go with average on fresh, young, ethuiastic,becasue if you the girl average because of milage you could run into issues, however, experienced/skilled could be a big plus also.I've been paying $40 entry since the beginning, and I'm absolutely positive it won't affect your selection. Most times when you pay the mama you're already in the room waiting for the girl you already picked anyway. I guess if you go to a place where they just send in girls this could happen, but I doubt it. I would think they would just send the best girl in available at the time so you will come back and give them repeat business. Anyway, for those new to this, just give the mama 40. If she says 50, say "but I paid 40 last time". If she still insist further, ask for your 40 back and say you'll have to come back because you don't have enough. They will never turn you away.

I'm one who believes the average girls give better service than the really hot ones. I know this isn't true for all of them, but in most cases you'll get better service from the average ones. I've pretty much given up on the real hot ones already since they always come with that "hottie" attitude. It might also be a psychological thing to-- I just feel more comfortable with an average one than with the real hottie. I know i'm no hottie, and when the girls see me they would call me "average" , so I'd rather be with my own kind. Doing it with a hottie isn't realistic because I know I never would score her in real life. lol.

Your point #4 reminded me of Candy from Pine Tree. I think she may have been a hottie in her prime, but when I was seeing her she was already on the older side and was probably losing a lot of business to the younger ones. But in this case, it worked out for the better, because she gave excellent service and spent a long time with you. I'm assuming it was because she was just happy to get the business. I kind of miss her, still looking for another like either her or Sarah.

Kay Bee

06-25-05, 21:39

2. Ive heard about trying to pay 40 to the mamasan that greets you. I credit you if you do, you saved 10 bucks, but I wonder if that will negative affect the selection. Im thinking not as place probably run on a rotation and who ever is up for their turn goes. So this does not seem like bad move, personally I used to go with the coupons, china spa used to have it along with a few other places and have since closed down. I just pay the 50 because I'm not a coupon type, and I hate haggling. I've thought of using a coupon at my favorite AMP and giving the 10 to the momma as tip, but never got around to doing it. The places I've been to usually operate on the rotation system, but a few have offered a full selection up front, but not consistently. You could definitely luck out going by rotation, but I would never accept one that I did not want. It's an important ironclad right to choose/reject or get a refund on the room fee.

3. Ive heard about hot girls giving horrible service, I would say that in my experience that might be true, I remember once back in the day where a really hot hapa provider quoted 200 and would not budge, said she had too much respect for her self, then stated she would do 150 is i made it fast. I think this is consistent with the idea of her getting through as fast as possible because of high demand. This was a while back at the tokyo spa.

4. Ive heard about picking average girls as the way to go, in my experience, there might be some truth to that, but i wouldnt say always. A good example of this was a an average girl who was basically horrible due to the fact that at one point she probably was that hot girl at one time that could be a *****, but those days were gone and now there really wasnt any extra incentive to put up with the attitude. I would say go with average on fresh, young, ethuiastic,becasue if you the girl average because of milage you could run into issues, however, experienced/skilled could be a big plus also.Everytime you make generalizations based on a grain of truth there will be exceptions. I've had cute average looking girls that gave terrible service, and conversely, get the best performances from my favorite hotties. Its all open to personal interpretation. One man's gold is another's lead. There is also the YMMV factor. I seriously doubt that all of the girls will give best service to *all* customers. I think it best to get out there and discover for ourselves exactly which ones meet our needs to the fullest. Part of the fun is the discovery, and the other part is the fulfillment.

Member #2650

06-26-05, 16:39

Keep Private Messages Private!

Also keep all that "I HATE YOU!..NO I HATE YOU MORE!!" bullshit off here. Nobody cares!

If you guys want to fight, just fight.

Don't be grandstanding in this forum. It's not the right place. At the least, create your own "beefs" thread or something, so the rest of us don't need to see it when we're looking for info about poontang.

$.02,

2650

Kim Chee Kane

06-26-05, 18:47

Sup,

Does anyone know where Nicole went? I tried to contact SS but they told me that she no longer works there. Is she at some other establishment? Hm. I believe she is Italian/Spanish, from what I remember.

Thanks. Be safe.

S Hunter

06-26-05, 18:52

Guys,

Why don't you take the high road and stop posting about each other, each others' PMs, etc and stop squabbling on the public forum? Do what you gotta do in private.

So please, enough is enough, ok? If you guys don't stop, I won't PM you, I won't meet you to kick your ass or anything else like that. I am just asking you man to man to stop.

With all due respect, I don't care about your petty grievances and hen pecking, and I for one have seen more than enough already. If other members want to keep seeing this stuff, then so be it, but not me brothers.

Peace!
S

Kay Bee

06-27-05, 10:55

SH,

I saw your 1st post, and took it into consideration so no need to repeat. Its nonsense that people feel like they can talk any kind of smack on the internet without consequence, and this will be seen through till its over, got it? Its as simple as this: If there are no more posts in anyway related to this issue, then its over. In the meantime, you can always take it up with admin, since all of the posts are screened/moderated.

Strong Mojo

06-27-05, 12:22

Lip Licker

06-28-05, 04:50

Seeker:

I usually try to pay at most 1.4 for tip depending on the service. The one good thing about LE activity being up is that it seems to scare a lot of girls into avoiding the tip discussion before and after in my experience. I usually only carry 20's because it is easier to fold the tip in a roll and only 2 girls have counted it while I was there in over 20+ times I can remember.

My experience with hotties vs average looking ones is YMMV so I can't say either way. I can say that most of my experiences with hotties have been good, or at least "professional", if not GFE. I go to AMP's for the quick bang and while the extra attention is nice, I am not there for the GFE so it doesn't bother me if I don't get it. Just like a SW, KB girl, stripper, etc, I am paying for a service, not a relationship. I think a lot of factors come into play here:
1) If you treat the girl nicely and are personable and polite, she will respond in kind. You should be able to sense the problem ones from the first 2 minutes and ask for another girl.
2) There can be a lot of drama between the girls/women that work/run these places since most of them live there so their moods often are affected by this.
3) You are probably not the first customer they have seen that day so who knows what happened before you.
Either way, I try to choose the hottest one(IMO) there since I'm paying for an experience.

I have used the second wallet trick for most of my mongering years. I guess it is an old habbit from picking up SW's. I've never been ripped off or had anything even looked through at an AMP but I don't want to risk it.

Lastly, I just have to wonder where the moderators are for this board. I'm sick of seeing the bickering too but I thought all that was supposed to be stopped by a moderator to prevent N00B's from just flaming people. At least KB has posted useful information, the others were one post idiots with nothing useful to add.

Kay Bee

06-29-05, 02:01

Okay guys...

I haven't reported in a while, but had some time this past week to check out Rosemarri. Spent my time with Ruby. My guess is that she's in her 30's or so and had a kid somewhere along the line. She is very friendly, and her english is a lot better than most providers that I've seen. Cute face with nice ass and a-cups...overall nice package.

Her shower was standard, but her massage is very good.

Just participated in CBJ with damage being .5+1.0.

F. 7
B. 7
A. 8
S. 8
D. .5+1.0

SMYup, exceptional massage. She's a very nice girl, intelligent and a real sweetheart. She actually gained a bit of weight in the last 2 or 3 months. I caught a glimpse of her a few weeks ago and was almost shocked. She's still a darling, IMO.

My experience with hotties vs average looking ones is YMMV so I can't say either way. I can say that most of my experiences with hotties have been good, or at least "professional", if not GFE. I go to AMP's for the quick bang and while the extra attention is nice, I am not there for the GFE so it doesn't bother me if I don't get it. Just like a SW, KB girl, stripper, etc, I am paying for a service, not a relationship. I think a lot of factors come into play here:

1) If you treat the girl nicely and are personable and polite, she will respond in kind. You should be able to sense the problem ones from the first 2 minutes and ask for another girl.I agree with your approach to treating the girls, and I too find some girls are definately more thorough and with a stronger work ethic than others, regardless of looks. IMO, the overwhelming numbers of mediocre providers out there really makes it hard, so I start with looks and if the attitude is good, then I am happy. Anything better than that, then I am REALLY happy.

Member #3111

06-29-05, 07:18

First time back at Rosemarie since they used to be Kiku. I walk in and there are like 6 hotties sitting on the couch...wow! The mama takes me to a room, they are running a $10 coupon in the PS so I hand over my $40 plus coupon. She asks if I want anyone in particular..judging by the quality that I just walked by I told her to send me anyone..they all looked great. I wait a couple minutes, knock at the door, and in walks this haole girl. She said her name is Heather, about 5'6", maybe about a b cup but she's a cutie..I have this thing for natural blondes so I'm thinking this will be a nice change. We go for a table shower, then back to the room. She admits her massage sucks but she she tries hard and it was okay. I tell her I'm there for FS..she starts with a great CBJ for about 10 minutes, just watching her blond ponytail bobbing up and down was a treat for me. We go standard mish, then switch to doggie where I finish up. After she gets me a hot towel we just sat and talked for another 15 minutes about her insights into the AMP business and different cultures. Overall it was different and I really enjoyed the change..service was non rushed.
L - 8
S - 7
A - 8
total damage .4 + 1.5 = 1.9