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Southpaw
01-01-05, 02:40
Happy New Year All!

I'm either staying at the Las Vegas Club or The Plaza for my upcumming trip (I figure they are both about the same and in the same location) and had a few questions.

1. Has anybody ever picked any SWs up in the Greyhound Station located at the hotel?

2. Is downtown a good bet to find the older SW's, as opposed to the young, hot ones working the Strip? I'm sure they are cheaper downtown as well.

3. I have no car for the trip, so will I do all right in the hotels and/or on Fremont St?

Thanks for any input you veterans of Sin City have for me!

Bruce Lafleur
01-02-05, 19:11
Similar situation to Great White. As Best Man, I'm hosting a bachelor party in Vegas on the coming long weekend. As of right now, I plan to take the party of about 15 guys to OG or the Rhino, but if anyone has hints of providers who would visit a suite or other good ideas - please share.

Seven Spot
01-02-05, 23:35
Was wondering if there are any good table shower AMPs. I stopped by one last year on Sahara out near Decatur (maybe not as far out). It was unremarkable.

designy
01-04-05, 16:48
Similar situation to Great White. As Best Man, I'm hosting a bachelor party in Vegas on the coming long weekend. As of right now, I plan to take the party of about 15 guys to OG or the Rhino, but if anyone has hints of providers who would visit a suite or other good ideas - please share.I just came back from New Year schbang there. Look in yellow pages under massage. There are too many listings. I called the one about third page from start...Asian something phone ends in 7000. They come to room, provide hard massage or soft and do the works. Reasonable. I would use again.

Member #2702
01-05-05, 13:20
A convention brings me to your fair city. Any indication on prices for FS. Last time I was there, I had a great time at ESPN Zone - beer, chillied crab claws and all. Cheaper than pussy.

Bustin Nutz
01-05-05, 22:15
In Vegas For A Military School And They Put Us Up In The Boulder Station, Please Any Ideas On How To Score Here Or Around Here, Or The Yellow Pages Or Referals. Anything Please Help. I Post Alot On The Fayetteville, Nc Board If You Need A Reference.

Thanks

Long Duck Dong II
01-06-05, 13:44
I don't mean to be a d1ck here but, before you guys come in here asking questions that have been answered a million times before, do some resarch first. Check out previous listings. "How much will FS cost me"? HAS BEEN ANSWERED A MILLION TIMES. Same with, "are there any CG's at MGM"? Do your research please.

Vegas Partier
01-06-05, 22:55
In Vegas For A Military School And They Put Us Up In The Boulder Station, Please Any Ideas On How To Score Here Or Around Here, Or The Yellow Pages Or Referals. Anything Please Help. I Post Alot On The Fayetteville, Nc Board If You Need A Reference.

ThanksYou're right in the middle of the "Boulder Strip". Lots of SW action up and down Boulder Highway. Girls often stay in the Motel 6 next door. So if you like white trash SW action, you're in a fine place. Just watch out for LE, they often cruise the area.

Desert Dude
01-07-05, 17:08
The chick must have lost her phone, number hasn't worked since the day after my last post. I've kept your PM's tho bro's, and will pass it along if she fires it up again. Last trip, had a possibility thru a thug. Had 20 and 30 buck womens. Passed tho, didn't have a room.

PsyberZombie
01-08-05, 07:12
I don't mean to be a d1ck here but, before you guys come in here asking questions that have been answered a million times before, do some resarch first. Check out previous listings. "How much will FS cost me"? HAS BEEN ANSWERED A MILLION TIMES. Same with, "are there any CG's at MGM"? Do your research please.

This phenomenon of Newbies showing up on a Board and asking the same Basic , Lame Questions that have already been answered a godzillion times , is so common that we even have an Acronym to use in response =

• • • • • • *R*T*F*F* !!! • • • • • •

And if yer such a Newbie that you don't even know what that means =
click on the 'Terms & Abbreviations' option located under the WSG FORUM header at the top of this page , and lookitdaforkup , 'kay ??

Roadkill at Work
01-08-05, 14:01
To all that visit vegas,

Please never go to Censatons. All that will happen is that you will loose out on $500 big ones... for nothing more than a hand rub, and I can rub my hands much better than those bitches. Pass this info on and make sure the taxi drivers don't sucker you.

Roadkillatwork

Dick in Shape
01-09-05, 09:19
Even with CES in town there were lean pickings this weekend; promising sightings by the Hard Rock across from Platinum, the Budget Suites on Boulder near AZ Charlie's and in the Convenience store on Trop and Ind (lotsa LE watching there tho').

Everyone got picked up before I could loop back. Fremont has been really dead, btw...

Anybody have better luck?

Cienega32
01-09-05, 16:03
It's not that the newbs don't know about the concept of RTFF or even RTFM. How could they think that they would be the first ones to NOT know on a forum dedicated to the things that they inquire about. There's a nice little menu list on the left. All they have to do is actually get involved with things available.

It's not a matter of not knowing better. It's pure laziness on the part of today's newbies. Instead of spending a little time and effort and perhaps utilizing that mysterious & intimidating feature called "SEARCH", it's easier to just post and wait for others to repost over & over again just for them. "Why should I look - someone else already knows".

Reading thru the forums is not only informative it's entertaining. You might even find something better than what you were looking for. I know it'll be difficult because most posts are not in cell phone format and most words are actually spelled out but give it a shot...

This isn't aimed at any particular newbie poster but for cripes sake, chillren - do some footwork on your own. Become a part of this great web site. Get involved and get over this "handed to you" attitude that has seemed to take over today's society.

"Hey dewds - I'm new here but am coming to Vegas. Any street action out there?" Stoopid question, no? But it does show up now & then. Along with "What casinos have girls in them?" Man oh man.

All hail the mighty SEARCH function! And like they used to say on TV "Reading is FUNdamental".

Steve Naive
01-09-05, 19:46
I'm a perennial newbie myself - I visit a lot of cities. I have to read quite a lot of posts to find what I seek, and locals often use abbreviations for places that are hard for a newbie to figure out (I'm not saying that applies here).

What would be VERY helpful is if some person who is knowledgeable on a given area would take it upon themselves to post a summary of options, prices, areas, times, local laws, etc, and update it from time to time. Look at the Prague FAQ for a great example. You can find these in some forums, but they are not common. (I have posted them for Makati City, Beijing, Bratislava.)

Speck's posting of 12/17/04 is a very useful starting point, but it does not mention AMPs, escorts available by telephone, options away from the strip, etc.

With a Newbie's Guide on each thread, y'all could just reply to newbies in question with instructions on finding the post (e.g. using the date, or if it's in a special thread for the purpose, the name of that thread, or search by user name).

Regarding Search, it does not work for me: I have been unable to find documents that I have posted. Example: a search with keywords "Naive Guide" fails to find the article I posted called "A Naive Guide to Punting in Makati City". I can only find it by searching by my username, and scrolling through my 70 posts.

Search USED to work, perhaps in the previous version of the software. I note that a search I did before that used to work no longer finds the document. I have reported this to Jackson, but he's a busy guy.

I have had to resort to using external tools - like making a PDF of postings, then using Acrobat search features. This works very well, but oh what a pain.

My own approach to questions: if I find a question to which I know the answer, I do a quick check to see whether the user has posted useful information or just questions. If they have only posted questions, I'll PM them with the suggestion that I'd be willing the help if they supplied info as well as asking for it. If they have posted some useful information at least once I give them the answer they seek. When people PM me for contact info regarding one of my postings, I give it out only to those who have also posted useful information at least once.

Acaryu
01-09-05, 23:10
I am sick and tired of people complaining about newbies or other people's posts. They used to be newbies themselves.

Cienega32
01-10-05, 03:58
Steve - some very good tips and suggestions.

I shouldn't have made it sound so all inclusive but there are "some" that stand out. I'm not speaking of within the Vegas forum, but I have seen in other forums here questions that the answers to (senior posters=no time lag) could be found by looking back 4 or 5 posts & often on the same page.

I wonder about the Newbie Guide or FAQ. I would think that in cities other than the ones that enjoy the prey, sting, & tow technique it would work. Some cities they talk of "dreams" that they had; others speak in abbreviated "code" that you really need to research in the message database. One way or the other - better to let "them" - the non-mongering population here - do the footwork.

I wasn't aware that the search feature wasn't functioning correctly since the upgrade. I haven't had a need for it for some time. But even prior to the upgrade, I still skimmed thru many pages. You never know - a search might not show, because of a spelling error, the post that details how a sting, trick-roll or disease was had. One way to search would be to edit & find function in your browser, if you have that.

All in all, my post was a little out of character for me and perhaps I should've bit my keyboard, but you have to admit - there is some truth to what I wrote. We were all newbs at one time or another but some newbs can give it a bad name. And it's not limited to the WSG Forums. It's everywhere. I've seen car forums with 15 or more message areas devoted to that one specific vehicle be riddled with the basic of questions regarding that type of vehicle.

We're all here to help each other in our common goal and we all do what we can for each other. But look at PsyberZombie's post and quote. It's pretty right on. One only needs to skim thru a page or two to get a feel for the economics of any given area. Vegas is mainly a casino town. Chances are good that a very recent post will talk of CGs in the casinos.

As far as a summary of the things you suggested, well... ain't that what these forums are all about? :D;)

Lip Licker
01-10-05, 05:31
I actually stayed at the Golden Nugget in hopes of picking up a SW downtown and be within walking distance of my hotel room. Plus, they don't have the problems of a Security guy at the elevator entrance like most of the Strip casinos.

My luck at the Golden Nugget wasn't that good. I walked around from about 1:00 am till 3:00 am to the different bars and saw nothing. No girls sitting alone or drinking together scoping out the place. Now I'm not the guru of picking up SWs and may just not know how to properly spot one. If you exit the Freemont St. Experience and cross LV Blvd, I hear a few blocks down is a good area for picking up SWs.

Just a warning, venturing that far off the strip as mentioned above, especially in the downtown area is not a good idea at night. I would not walk around the streets to monger, even with a firearm, a blade and good training. If you are a braver traveler, I would suggest driving down boulder hwy, or down the few cross streets off the fremont street experience and looking for SW's, just like mongering anywhere, be aware of who is also driving or around.

To confirm US Traveler's observations, I have looked around Golden Nugget, Four Queens, California in the late evening/early morning hours and found very few CG's working. Could just be my taste(I only saw a rare few but they looked to be in their 40's, and not very attractive).

Desert Dude
01-10-05, 12:59
Just a warning, venturing that far off the strip as mentioned above, especially in the downtown area is not a good idea at night. I would not walk around the streets to monger, even with a firearm, a blade and good training. If you are a braver traveler, I would suggest driving down boulder hwy, or down the few cross streets off the fremont street experience and looking for SW's, just like mongering anywhere, be aware of who is also driving or around.While I certainly don't advocate venturing outside your comfort zone, I have found Fremont to be fine at night. Sure, it's full of dealers, panhandlers and general wackos, but not more than most bigger cities downtowns. For those testing the waters, I would suggest the Western, or one block beyond, being the limit. Not to recommend, just for comparison, I've wandered Fremont and 1-2 blocks north and south out to Maryland Parkway many many times at all times of day or night, with no hassles at all. I have a few habits that I think help, but basically common sense and not looking like a victim. I think there is also a fair amount of petty crime up on the strip. Again, not advocating people wandering too far outside their comfort zone, but I don't agree with a general 'fremont is dangerous' statement. Also, I, and many girls I've talked to, don't really like doing the car thing. Too many variables, can't see 360 degrees for cops, then you have to park, and they have to make a split second decision whether to hop in or not.

Dick in Shape
01-11-05, 00:52
How about the Boulder Strip? I'm gonna stay at AZ Charlie's while my house is worked on - can strollers be attracted without a car do you think? I've seen them taking their "breaks" at AZ, playing VP.

Member #3929
01-12-05, 18:11
Hello guys, I post at the Tampa board, and now I need some help over here. I'll be visiting Vegas in March (will be attending the Pacquiao-Morales super featherweight bout at MGM), and will be staying at Terrible's hotel, which supposedly is to the east of the Strip, about 3 blocks from it. I've read on Trip Advisor it's a nice place to stay for a few bucks, so I'll be giving it a try.

Although I plan to hire an independent, I was wondering if there is any action at this hotel's casino or anything. At least, I would like to know if there is any action around this hotel.

Thanks for the help beforehand, and if you plan to visit Tampa soon and need some advice, let me know. :)

Dick in Shape
01-14-05, 11:56
The fight will be better though, LOL; anyway, you will see some girls taking a break in Terribles - dunno if they actually book any activity there tho'.

I've seen strollers down the block near the Hard Rock on Paradise near Harmon. Also some can be seen on Koval, a long block away towards the strip.

For some real fun, I'd check out the Hard Rock late at night, after 2AM say. The choices could be spectactular and you are walking distance from Terribles...

Hope this helps!

Cienega32
01-17-05, 05:33
Hello guys, I post at the Tampa board, and now I need some help over here. I'll be visiting Vegas in March (will be attending the Pacquiao-Morales super featherweight bout at MGM), and will be staying at Terrible's hotel, which supposedly is to the east of the Strip, about 3 blocks from it. I've read on Trip Advisor it's a nice place to stay for a few bucks, so I'll be giving it a try.

Although I plan to hire an independent, I was wondering if there is any action at this hotel's casino or anything. At least, I would like to know if there is any action around this hotel.

Thanks for the help beforehand, and if you plan to visit Tampa soon and need some advice, let me know. :)

It's an old building but it was pretty much gutted and re-done a few years ago when Terrible's bought it. Myself, I haven't been there since prior to that when it was the Continental. I think there's still a hole in the wall tittie bar just west of it about a block or two called the Tender Trap.

You'll be about a mile east of the Strip. About a third of a mile south of Terrible's is the Hard Rock which I think was being discussed recently. If anything it is loaded with a TON of younger/legal eye candy at the very least! Across the street from that is a tittie bar called Club Paradise. A little "upscale" and large inside but always some good shows. Another block or two south of that is a strong "alternative" area.

Across the street - north - from Terrible's used to be the Crazy Horse which was a wild tittie bar back in the day (not to be confused with the Crazy Horse II off of Sahara).

Member #3929
01-19-05, 09:21
Things have changed a bit. I found a great offer for the Sahara and decided to switch. In fact, I just did. So, I'll be staying officially in the Sahara.

So, I ask the same questions again, but regarding to the Sahara. In fact, I also would like to know if this hotel is escort friendly. Thanks for your help beforehand, and again, if you need any info regarding Tampa, I'll be glad to help.

Speck
01-28-05, 19:03
Stayed at a mid strip hotel a few weekends ago.

Lots of ho's after midnight from Venetian to Barbary Coast on that side of the strip. This is not for car pickup, you have to walk. But if you are staying at any hotel in the area you are just fine. The girls will walk with you and even slight GFE in the form of walking holding hands or with your arm around her shoulder or waist. You can also check out the insides of each of the casinos. I saw a few workers in Harrahs and Flamingo and Osheas. Also it is easy to cross the street at Harrahs and go check out inside Mirage where there are lots of ho's.

Do not expect to find anything less than $200 for fs. Every girl I have ever picked up in Vegas on the strip says they always charge $300, but because I am staying close and look nice and clean, they are ok with the $200 I offer. Yeah right. Truth is, some guys pay alot, but they will not turn down $200. Unless you are gross. There is a gross guy that plays poker at Bellagio and is like a fly on shit when a hooker walks by. He gets turned down for $200.

There are also lots of ho's at Bellagio, but I don't stay there. I have been turned down there several times for $200.

Cienega32
01-30-05, 03:14
Stayed at a mid strip hotel a few weekends ago.


Truth is, some guys pay alot, but they will not turn down $200. Unless you are gross. There is a gross guy that plays poker at Bellagio and is like a fly on shit when a hooker walks by. He gets turned down for $200.

There are also lots of ho's at Bellagio, but I don't stay there. I have been turned down there several times for $200.


Hmmm... :confused:

:D

Speck
01-31-05, 09:22
I have no idea what the hell I was writting. :)

I have been turned down every time I offer $200 at Bellagio. Guess that makes me smelly and gross.

LV Fan
02-02-05, 19:47
Just a warning Metro seems to be everywhere today. They are especially heavy on the strip and they are saturating the area around commercial center and sahara. They had the paddy wagon and the off-road motorcycle crew too. That usually means they are sweeping the local motels too. I don't know what got into them, but it is making things tough. The only good thing is that they had several pimps tied up too.

PsyberZombie
02-03-05, 06:58
An attractive young 'Week·End Warrior' on the Strip is gonna set you back $$$ —— at least , that's been my experience

The Real Bottom Line is = if you can't afford these prices for these hot chicks , shop else·where and fuggedabout getting an eye·candy '10'

davek
02-07-05, 02:33
Just got back from Vegas for superbowl weekend. Not much worth telling. Tried a couple of the numbers from the different classified listings but was quoted 150 to just get them naked in your room and nogotiations start there. Easily saw it going hundreds higher so passed on it. Went to the Red Rooster (swing club) as I've been there several times with great success but it sucks nowadays, they take your money but closed down the last open area in there for singles, there really is no possibility to hook up there. Also tryed the Green Door (another swing club) that was recommended by people I meet. Wasn't too impressed and no contact, big money making operation, 70 to get in, and they nickle and dime you, I asked for a glass a water and was charged 5 bucks. If anyone is interested let me know and I follow up. Anyway can't recommend it either for single guys.

Muggs
02-08-05, 02:52
Saw something quite interesting while in BK on Trop. There was this girl sitting in their drinking a soda...that the female mgr. gave her. Then this guy who was in their starts talking to the MGR. He goes out to his car the soda girl follows. During a course of events, he somehow comes back in and then I see him coming out of the female bathroom...with the soda girl following a few minutes behind. The staff had to know what was going on.

One of the staffers was trying to call the guy from his car as I was walking out...I said out loudly" It must be nice to get head in a BK bathroom"...the staffer laughed.

They knew...

Muggs

Cienega32
02-09-05, 04:15
Just a warning Metro seems to be everywhere today. They are especially heavy on the strip and they are saturating the area around commercial center and sahara. They had the paddy wagon and the off-road motorcycle crew too. That usually means they are sweeping the local motels too. I don't know what got into them, but it is making things tough. The only good thing is that they had several pimps tied up too.

That might have just been a pre-game sweep. You know how they hit the town before a big tourist weekend that has big money in it.

What's by Comm Ctr & Sahara that interested them?

Dick in Shape
02-10-05, 08:14
Glad to see the board is back up!

Hey, I've heard some noise about action at this very off the beaten path joint - anybody had success there?

I've heard lunch hour and happy hour are, um, interesting.

Member #4862
02-12-05, 16:33
The Four Aces Bar on Boulder Highway is by no means off the beaten path. Boulder Highway from Charleston/Fremont all the way out to Russell Road has been one of the most fruitful SW tracks for years. I don't live in Vegas anymore, but everytime I go back, I always hit that track and score big time. The track is long and you may chew up a lot of miles, but usually, it's worth it. I've had the best luck cruising from Boulder Station to Nellis.

CEO Morgan
02-12-05, 22:17
Has anyone been to Rendezvous Adult Club on Sahara Ave? I saw this place while driving past last month. Did not have a chance to stop in.

Bumone
02-14-05, 16:14
I was in Vegas staying at the Tropicana from Feb 2-5 and found a different girl on both Wednesay and Thursday night, late around 1 am. Just stood there for 10-15 minutes and one would come by and say hello. First was LaLa, hot young BSW, provided good service for $120. Next night was a pretty HSW who had a shiner she said she got from another working gal. She worked it hard but I was sincerely drunk so it wasn't that good. Again negotiated for only $120. The last night, Friday, was going back to my room after a long night and a very attractive young black girl was sitting at a machine right by the elevator and asked if I wanted some company. Sure! $100 for CBJ. Pretty good trip to Sin City!

Bumone
02-14-05, 16:33
I was in Vegas staying at the Tropicana from Feb 2-5 and found a different girl on both Wednesay and Thursday night, late around 1 am. Just stood there for 10-15 minutes and one would come by and say hello. First was LaLa, hot young BSW, provided good service for $120. Next night was a pretty HSW who had a shiner she said she got from another working gal. She worked it hard but I was sincerely drunk so it wasn't that good. Again negotiated for only $120. The last night, Friday, was going back to my room after a long night and a very attractive young black girl was sitting at a machine right by the elevator and asked if I wanted some company. Sure! $100 for CBJ. Pretty good trip to Sin City!

LuvtheLife
02-14-05, 19:19
Guys, about a year ago I was in Vegas and had a ok time with Monet-Venetian bar, Sheila-eros-kind of old, but my best time Trenda the last night I was there. I picked her up at the entrance to the hard rock and it was the best time ever for 2 bills. SHe was ebony and had an awesome body with great skills. Is she still around? I will be with a woman this trip so I will need incall options after the other half has gone to bed. thanks

Mike61
02-14-05, 21:05
Just got back from Vegas during Super Bowl weekend. Being the wise monger that I am, I never took up the advice from the cab drivers, some had there "***** Trading Cards" and one took us to the Oasis Club, but I seen $50 entrance fee and turned right around.

So, what's Indulge all about? Same thing? And what exactly happens in those kind of places anyway? There were like ten all up and down Industrial Rd.

Member #3929
02-28-05, 21:24
Well guys, in 18 days I'll be over there, and would like to know about the action, if any, in the Sahara Hotel, if any. Any info will be appreciated.

Thanks

GA Boy
03-01-05, 14:09
I was there in January for the CES Show. Very Little Action even as large as the CES show was. There were ton's of hotties there that sure looked the part but I wasn't getting 'the look'. Of course it may have been me.

Roadkill at Work
03-01-05, 20:30
Okay guys, I went to Vegas. Was having a blast. Caby suckered us to a place next to deja vu the video place, called something Spacy. Rip off of the year. $50 to get it. And then they rub hand lotion on you for another $80. On your hands that is. Door open. This place is a joke. Got in a fight with teh black door guy and promised never to return adn let everyone know about this shit hole.

Desert Dude
03-02-05, 17:30
Roadkill-bummer, thanks for sharing. Typically i think cabbies can be helpful finding tang about 5% of the time, max. And that's everywhere i've ever mongered. TJ in particular. But it's always tough when you are in a new town.

Sahara-met one slightly heavy but fun blond at the main bar once, several months back. Damn if I can remember her name. Jessica? Crap. She was 26 or so, B-cup, super nice, from Minnesota, drank Yager. Might ask a bartender about her. She tipped them well. Like the other poster said tho, the Sahara has never been known as a hotbed [no pun intended].

I tend to chase the other extreme, the .20 streetchicks. Scored on the Boulder Highway last weekend, near the Stadium. Diamond. Actually has a real job, so is only out on weekends. Can't miss her, black, overweight, and psycho. lol

Has anybody been to the Centerfolds strip club? I had sworn them off years ago, but was in the area and intrigued by the 'no cover, video poker, topless' sign out front. It was a fun little place. Bud was 4.50, which, with no cover didn't seem too bad. No flashing disco light overdose, no heartpounding new rap, in fact old Led Zepplin at a volume that you could easily hear and talk through. Started having a nice chat with a tall slender gal when we got rudely interrupted, but she was responding favorably to the 'come to my hotel room' chat. Any others score there?

Mack Moris
03-03-05, 18:57
My god I had the most awesome time last night, called one of those places in the back of the Vegas free papers.

Man this girl spoke absolutely no English! But who cares.

I was greeted by Kim, I'm assuming he is the owner.

Annie took my hand, ushered me to one of the rooms. she immediately got naked, gave me a shower paid attention to all the right places. Gave me a really horrible if not terrifying massage... I mean seriously it was really bad. The only thing worse was her blow job, I felt nothing at all, but after the flip, man things were so much better. She started by flirting me with her tips, put her nipples in my mouth asked me suck. She had me finger her, climbed atop started riding me... I mean really hard fucking hard.

I was in heaven! We dig doggie. mish reverse CG then back to mish till I finally came. We were fucking well over an hour!!! she didn't complain at all. The whole time she was moaning, playing with her pussy had a finger up her ass most of the time.

I've fucked a ton of hookers, she must be the best actress ever I could swear she was enjoying it. Anyways her # starts with 273..... man I'm still having flashbacks. Sshe said she's only been in the us for a month, man i want to ask to see her privately.

You guys think that would fly? Pay her pimp to have her see me on a regular basis? Have her come to my house?

cost = 150 I tipped her 40 bucks..

I would have tipped her more, but I only had the 40 bucks.

I am going to call Kim again tonight.

fuck I still have a smile on my face.

localbozo
03-04-05, 09:15
testing...couldn't post at all last 2 weeks.

localbozo
03-04-05, 09:25
Glad to see the board is back working again. I know Jackson has to work hard to keep asshole hackers and religious groups from destroying his board, but I guess that's all part of his job.

On a mongering note, I have found two AMPs that provide FS. They were both $40 entry fee. One charged $150 for FS, the other charged $200. It's a bit more expensive than I'm used to (I'm used to Southern California prices which are usually between $80 and $100) but at least it's available and it was okay. Not really a GFE at either place, but decent sex. PM me for more details and location.

Car Guy III
03-04-05, 15:47
I will be in Vegas next weekend for the Nascar race, and like to find a AMP or a girl that does incalls near the strip, that will do BBBJCIM. If anyone is willing to share any information to a newbie to Vegas. Thanks

PM me

Mack Moris
03-05-05, 00:56
Anyone ever get laid from Craigs list?

I see a bunch of chicks on there, pros and civi's.

I'm more interested in the civi's.

Anyone?

Acaryu
03-05-05, 19:07
I have a stripper friend who went to work in Spearmint Rhino in Las Vegas. She worked there 12 days, paid the hotels, tip outs, airfare, taxi etc and she came home making 12 grands. She is just an 7.5 in my books, but a blonde with big tits. 5' 3" or so. Average that over a year, she will make more than the president of the United States.

Whome
03-06-05, 09:36
Anyone ever get laid from Craigs list?

I see a bunch of chicks on there, pros and civi's.

I'm more interested in the civi's.

Anyone?
Mack, I scored with a post I put on CL before a trip out there. Had several replies of which some were genuine and I hooked up with a married Latino woman and enjoyed several days of wild vegas activities with her.

Desert Dude
03-07-05, 15:41
Yep, have also had a good lay off that site, on a trip to San Fran couple years ago.

Arch West
03-07-05, 15:59
Hey LocalBozo,

I tried to PM you. Maybe you could try and PM me with your valuable Vegas AMP FS info. As you will see from my posts on SLC and Massage boards, I recriprocate. Thanks.

Desert Dude
03-07-05, 20:23
So, there I was, debating whether to drive around downtown a bit or just head home. I've had the most fun downtown, as you regular readers will attest, when I have rented a room down there, at the El Cortez, Western, Ambassador, Gold Spike, or Horseshoe, and done my mongering on foot. Alas, no room this time. Back to the days of the car bj. Really don't like downtown in a car, I know many have no problems, but I feel more vulnerable.

So, I decided to think with my big head for a change, start the drive home and headed down 7th toward Ogden and 95 North.

Thanks for reading, y'all, have a nice day.

But wait! What the hell is that skirt and titties doing crossing the street with no adult supervision? Caught her eye, went to the next block, carefully did a u-ey, pulled up next to her. Trying to remember my best lines, she opened the door and sat that little skirt right down. Driving around a bit, making small talk, I apologize for only having 20 or 30 to toss on the table. 30's cool she said. Cool. You have a place? Sure, she said. So we go down Fremont to maybe 16th? or so. Pull into this skanky one row motel. Hmmmm. (It's about 7pm). Park along the back. Ok. Give her the money, let's go honey. Just a sec, says she, I just have to tell my guy I'm here. Hmmm. K...

Ten minutes later, i'm thinking ripoff. So, I walk down the row of 15 rooms or so, til i hear her voice. Knock on the door, black guy answers. Is trinidad here? Who? I know she's in here, not here to hassle you, just help me out, thanks....I walk away. 5 minutes later, here she comes, pissed off major league. Dont you EVER come knocking on a door looking for me. Blah blah blah.

Get her back in the car, let's do this. Grab cover from the glove box, she starts a half ass bj. 3 minutes later, stops, saying I can't do this forever. Confused, I ask...well what do you want to do instead? And she leans the seat back, leans back, hikes her skirt up, and says cmon. Haven't done THAT in a car since high school. Jump on her, feels good, f*ed her good and hard. Tossed her out and got the hell out of there. Good news: got a lot more than a bj; bad news, put myself in a situation that could have gotten bad. Chalk another up to experience.

Aviator
03-08-05, 17:45
Hi all,

I am active on the Atlanta board. Been tough, but glad Jackson has things working again.

I have heard rumors of FKT clubs similar to the ones in NYC or parts of Germany. Can anyone confirm this? PM if you like.

Thanks
Aviator

Mack Moris
03-10-05, 04:03
I've driven by boulder so many times, around 10pm -5am.

I've do the rounds, go down industrial warm springs east to boulder north to Freemont.

I even went down sierra vista, but I haven't found a single sw.

I did this like 5 times last month. I can only go at night.

Any suggestions where else I can go to find some sw's?

Vegas Partier
03-10-05, 21:35
I've driven by boulder so many times, around 10pm -5am.

I've do the rounds, go down industrial warm springs east to boulder north to Freemont.

I even went down sierra vista, but I haven't found a single sw.

I did this like 5 times last month. I can only go at night.

Any suggestions where else I can go to find some sw's?When Metro is busy on Boulder Highway, which they seem to have been lately, you can sometimes find SWs a little off Boulder on the major east-west streets. I sometimes see them on DI or Flamingo as far east as Eastern Ave, especially on weekend nights.

Scrodie
03-11-05, 20:36
Here are a few reports:

Went to VIP (Sirius at Valley View) again. This time, got Nadia, a young, Eastern European girl with long curly blonde hair. She had a great body and a very ample bust. It was the same protocol as last time, but this was the first time I went there that they were quite busy. The gave a nice massage, followed by a nude HJ, though more was offered for more $$. VIP now offers table showers, though I didn't get one this time. They have the most attractive masseuses around. They're also one of the few places in Las Vegas where the masseuses dress sexy, often in lingerie.

Went to an AMP at Sahara east of Paradise for the first time. I didn't see a name on the building, but it's next door to the "you don't have to pay income tax" building. It's in an older building. The masseuse was average looking, and in her thirties. I didn't get her name and her English was just a bit better than my Korean. The gave a great table shower, including a "soap massage". All the bits were properly washed. The massage was quite nice. I paid .6 for the entry and .6 for a HJ. Nothing else was offered.

Went to Health and Energy Massage (Tropicana and Valley View) for the first time in a while. They now have showers, though not table showers. The mamasan or other masseuse was older, friendly, but not that attractive. I showered and was massaged by a quite attractive older woman (a different woman than the mamasan). The massage was very nice, and a HJ was offered. I paid .6 + .6. Nothing else was offered.

I saw the 44 year old incall red head from CL again. She really wants to please and is very friendly. Oh, and she loves Greece. She's a lot of fun, and I highly recommend her.

I paid Rainbow (Flamingo and Cameron) another visit. I was masseused by a different Asian girl. Whenever I go there and get an Asian masseuse, the massage is always "erotic". When I get a non-Asian girl, only once has the massage been "erotic". The last few times I've gone, I've had Asian masseuses, though I don't think I've seen the same girl more than once. I would like to see the non-Asian masseuse again (I believe she said her name was Catherine), but I digress. This visit was similar to other recent trips there. I paid .8 for a table shower and hour massage, which was quite nice. I then paid $ for a HJ, and she let me fondle her.

Forth Ryte
03-12-05, 07:42
All my life I'd heard about LV as "Sin City" but I'd never been out there. Finally, some time back, I got a chance to go with a friend who was going for business. We stayed in separate rooms and while he did his convention thing, I went out and about looking. I walked up and down the lower strip and looked high and low. Now I figure I know how to spot a SW -- being from NYC where I can spot one on a corner at night from a block away -- but I didn't see anything for two days.

Finally I resorted to a tactic that is sure to work when visiting a new city: ask a cabbie. These guys drive all over at all hours and they see it all.

So I grabbed a cab ride from one of the hotels on the lower end of the strip back up to where I was staying (Harrah's). After a minute of chit chat I gazed out the window and wondered out loud, "Gee, I had always been told there were lots of hookers in Vegas but I see they've cleaned up the city nicely."

He said, "Oh they're out here all over the place you just have to know when and where to look."

"Really?" I said. "Like where?" and he starts pointing out certain corners (right near my hotel, in fact) and says "Look over there at 4 in the morning."

So I set my alarm for 3:30am, got up, went down for a walk and WOW right where he said they would be, there were quite a few to choose from.

Its all about two things: Knowing where, and knowing WHEN they are out.

Member #3278
03-12-05, 14:24
New member here, longtime lurker.

Anyone tried the "asian massage in private apt" that posts on CL?

Southpaw
03-13-05, 01:21
I'm wondering how reliable the action is off CL as well. I have emailed back and forth with one or two providers there but have yet to use their services.

localbozo
03-13-05, 04:51
The whole SW scene is Las Vegas is hit or miss. Sometimes I see several on Boulder Hwy and sometimes none. You have to have patience. Sierra Vista used to be easy, but now I haven't seen a single sw in months there. I wish every city could be like TJ; wall to wall young hookers! I'm dreaming.

As far as info on the FS amps, I hope no one takes anything personally, but I will just NOT reply to anyone who is a regular member with no posts. I'm all for sharing, but I have seen too many amps that I have loved go down in flames. I know I don't have a tremendous number of posts, but I have "juice" with Jackson and he knows I am a serious mongerer with no bullsh*t. I would NEVER sink an amp, I would just not frequent it and report it on the board. LE is the enemy here and one bust will lead to another.

Happy hunting all and good luck

LB

Lookin4luvin
03-13-05, 13:15
Hey Southpaw,

I've met some ladies off of CL before and they were great. However, I met these women before I even knew CL existed. I found them by doing some yahoo member searches. With a little patience and creativity on your part, you can find several nice providers.

Mass Hog
03-13-05, 22:25
I've hooked up twice on CL. Once in LV and once in Dallas. Still looking for a score here in Boston. If you'd like info on a black BBW with huge tatas in Vegas drop me a line and I'll give you the info. she was 1.5 for the hour. GFE like I asked for. She enjoys her work!!

Member #3278
03-14-05, 01:26
Sunday eve, 9-10 pm, ran the Boulder Strip trop to downtown, lots of LE, no action to be seen, not even on Fremont.

Dave #1
03-14-05, 18:22
Hey guys,

What is CL?

Suxard
03-15-05, 04:03
I got to Vegas on Saturday for a trade show through the week. Lots and lots of SWs around. Saturday found lots of good looking black girls working the strip, but I was with co-workers, so unable to partake. Having drinks at the Belagio, I over heard a professional woman discussing a deal with a foreigner - I think French. She was asking 600 big ones! I left before I saw the outcome, but if he took it - what a sucker! There was lots of free stuff walking around.

Sunday night was a blast. Lots of drunk nascar girls. While I was willing to depart with some of my gambling funds for the hobby, I ended up meeting a couple of girls from Texas with whom I partied through the night.

I had to get up early for meetings today, but it looks promising for tomorrow when some of my managers fly back to Nashville, leaving me alone to man a booth. I just hope some of that weekend action remains through Wednesday.

Vegas Man
03-15-05, 05:11
I need to report on Sunset Massage. It is in Sunset (duh) in Henderson. It is next to Renatas Sports Book, and across from Smith's supermarket. I have been there twice and both times had a mediocre experience. Both times had a young cute asian masseuse. Both times they gave a poor, rushed hj that I left thinking I could do a better job myself. Only paid $.6 for service. I don't recommend this place.

Mike61
03-15-05, 05:16
Hey guys,

What is CL?

that would be **********.org

Wastrel
03-15-05, 05:41
I got to Vegas on Saturday for a trade show through the week. Lots and lots of SWs around. Saturday found lots of good looking black girls working the strip, but I was with co-workers, so unable to partake. Having drinks at the Belagio, I over heard a professional woman discussing a deal with a foreigner - I think French. She was asking 600 big ones! I left before I saw the outcome, but if he took it - what a sucker! There was lots of free stuff walking around.

Sunday night was a blast. Lots of drunk nascar girls. While I was willing to depart with some of my gambling funds for the hobby, I ended up meeting a couple of girls from Texas with whom I partied through the night.

I had to get up early for meetings today, but it looks promising for tomorrow when some of my managers fly back to Nashville, leaving me alone to man a booth. I just hope some of that weekend action remains through Wednesday.Suxard,

Good news for you; next week is even more busy than NASCAR weekend. With the beginning of the NCAA tournament followed by spring break partiers until the end of the month, rooms in LV are even more scarce than with the 160,000 stock car fans who came in last week. One hopes the collegiate basketball babes are as loose as the NASCAR groupies. This is peak season, and it doesn't lighten up until April.

Burles
03-16-05, 07:08
I will be here in early April. What are my prospects for finding a casino girl here? Mirage or other close by locations?

Scrodie
03-16-05, 19:48
... Sierra Vista used to be easy, but now I haven't seen a single sw in months there... Mongering on Sierra Vista is pretty much history. The street is going through a major gentrification. Most of the old apartment complexes are going to be torn down. A couple of high-rise condo developments have already been announced. There have been quit a few articles in the daily papers here about projects there.

Gnome
03-16-05, 20:45
I will be here in early April. What are my prospects for finding a casino girl here? Mirage or other close by locations?

Your right in the thick of things at Treasure Island Hotel. If you can't find something in that area you must be blind.

Gnome out.

Wastrel
03-16-05, 21:51
I will be here in early April. What are my prospects for finding a casino girl here? Mirage or other close by locations?You're on the right track thinking of hunting at the Mirage & environs as well as Treasure Island. TI was created as a somewhat downmarket alternative to handle the overflow from the Mirage, and the CWs are looking to go where the money is.

It will likely be hard NOT to find some CWs if you are an unaccompanied male on the Strip. If you are strolling around alone looking at women it is likely THEY will find YOU. Just bring a big sack of money, and keep it secured where sticky hands can't get at it unless you want them to.

Here is an edited version of my answer to an almost identical question on another site a couple of weeks ago:

[NAME DELETED]

The short answer is yes, and that you can do one of the following:

Option #1- Use the dine-in menu on display at the bar in the casino where you are staying. If an unnaturally attractive well dressed young woman is indifferently playing the video poker machine alone at the bar, the official Vegas Wastrel's odds line is about 2 to 5 (75-80% chance in your favor) that she is no lady, and is in the professional companionship business. Try such clever lines as "buy ya a drink?" or "mind if I join ya?" If she licks her lips and purrs "ooh yeah sure handsome" she's working. If she grunts and doesn't look up from the video poker she isn't. Whether a particular hotel is stocked with a good selection of working girls varies from week to week. High-end working ladies are informally permitted when casino management judges them to be good for business, or at least unofficially tolerated when they mind their manners and don't forget to tip the bartender. They are escorted off the premises by the casino's in-house security if management judges them to be individually or collectively bad for business, so it just depends on what meetings or conventions are booked in that hotel that week. [NAME & REFERENCE TO HOTEL DELETED]

Option #2- Stroll the skybridges and pedestrian walkways and leer shamelessly at a young woman walking alone who you find especially attractive. Odds are about 3 to 5 (60-70% chance) that she will leer back and immediately attach herself to your elbow to strike up a conversation intended to lead to money for sex. The bridges around Flamingo and LV Blvd. are probably the best for this, but all of them can be quite active this way.

Option #3- Late at night, say from around one or two until a little before dawn, a lot of casino workers who have not had all their financial needs met will head over to what used to be known as the "lamp bar" at the Aladdin, similar to the "day old" rack in the bakery section of the supermarket where sweet delicacies are offered for a discount just before their pull date expires. Odds are about 1 to 10 (90% chance) that any woman under thirty without a man on her arm at this bar after midnight is available, and 4 to 5 (better than 50%) that she will soon become available for hire even if she is already chatting with another gent. [NAME & REFERENCE TO HOTEL DELETED]

CWs sometimes will not leave the hotel they are working, and sometimes will, but ladies from Aladdin’s lamp and obviously from the pedestrian bridges are prepared to join you for a taxi ride within the Strip. It is very dangerous to accept an invitation to go to her place, and you should be extremely suspicious of anyone who wants you to do so. Red alert, eject, eject if someone wants you to do this, no matter what she looks like.

[DESCRIPTION OF CW CONVERSATION EDITED OUT]

Some general observations:

The later the hour, the more flexible the pricing. At this time it is pretty standard to ask for five but common to drop to three and possibly two. Two bills used to be the standard “graveyard special” rate, but since New Years many have been trying to draw the line at three. I don't think that is holding, and two should still be available from some, but not all, of the CWs.

These prices get you some breathtaking good looks in all sizes, styles, and flavors, but guarantee nothing else; not performance, not safety, not even skill, and certainly not her attitude after the money changes hands. Some will sprout horns and a tail after they get the money, some will upsell you to no end, and some can be very good company. Let me repeat: expensive good looks do not guarantee anything else, and your safety is your responsibility with the high end Strip babes just as much as it would be with a cheap SW, and it is always important that you be in control of the environment with them.

Amigo
03-17-05, 23:58
These prices get you some breathtaking good looks in all sizes, styles, and flavors, but guarantee nothing else; not performance, not safety, not even skill, and certainly not her attitude after the money changes hands. Some will sprout horns and a tail after they get the money, some will upsell you to no end, and some can be very good company. Let me repeat: expensive good looks do not guarantee anything else

This is so true. Nothing is worse than having a real hot and nice girl turn hateful as soon as money changes hands.

J Random
03-19-05, 03:24
Ok, I've got two services to report. First, don't try Oriental Angels.

I went with a buddy, who is Chinese (I am AA), we received completely different services. The woman was a little on the older side (40+) not so great looking. But here is the kicker, she offered him some extras (I guess because he is Asian) and me nada. I suspected this kind of double standard.

I also tried Ginger Massage out of the phone book. Ok looking woman, decent massage, but kept talking on her cell. No extras, no hj, but she did give me a phone number for a cheaper massage. Unfortunately, I lost the number. Has anyone had experiences with the yellow pages AMPs?

PsyberZombie
03-19-05, 10:16
Wastrel writes =


" If an unnaturally attractive well dressed young woman is indifferently playing the video poker machine alone at the bar, the official Vegas Wastrel's odds line is about 2 to 5 (75-80% chance in your favor) that she is no lady, and is in the professional companionship business. Try such clever lines as "buy ya a drink?" or "mind if I join ya?"

My fave pick·up Line with these 'Week·End Warriors' is =

" So... Are you here for the Convention ?? "

This is the Line used to pick up Johns by the Hooker played by Elizabeth Berkley in the 1995 Bomb ShowGirls

... and I swear 99% of the working girls in LV are familiar with this Line and will thus know exactly what yer talking about

Try it some time !!

Long Duck Dong II
03-21-05, 18:38
Wastrel writes =

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My fave pick·up Line with these 'Week·End Warriors' is =

" So... Are you here for the Convention ?? "

This is the Line used to pick up Johns by the Hooker played by Elizabeth Berkley in the 1995 Bomb ShowGirls

... and I swear 99% of the working girls in LV are familiar with this Line and will thus know exactly what yer talking about

Try it some time !!No dude, it was the movie "Leaving Las Vegas".

Desert Dude
03-22-05, 13:57
My favorite line is more for the fremont street stroll....me: so, staying out of trouble? bsw: oh yeah. me: oh, darn, that's too bad. bsw: oh, really? And the game is started...

Stopped by Angel's ladies in beatty last week. Only 3 in the lineup. Took the hostess, slender euroasian lookin gal, who, upon hearing my tale of woe and a skinny wallet, told me her minimum was 300. Suuuuuure. So, on to the next, a 40'ish blond, fake tits. Her minimum was like half of the other. What's that for I asked. 15 minutes. Of what? Of whatever you want to do in 15 minutes. And then there's the 5-10 minutes of 'cool-down'. Ok, what the heck. Turns out to be quite the animal, massage, cbj, cowgirl, finish doggie with a bang. All in all a pretty good time.

Wayward One
03-22-05, 23:41
This report is 7 months late. Staff may have changed. But I was just upgraded to regular status.

My first visit to an AMP was last summer in Las Vegas to the Sunflower Massage on Paradise. It is a short walk from the Sahara. I had found reviews of them somewhere else. At this time I don't remember where, but I didn't find this site until September.

From the hotel, I found the number in the phone book, gave a call, and got the rates. Got to the Sahara, walked out onto Sahara Blvd, and then a left turn onto Paradise. The Amp is on the right and visble from the intersection of Sahara and Paradise, if you know where you're looking. Less than a 5 minute walk from the Sahara casino.

Rang the bell, and was let in by a nice looking lady in her 40's. Prices were $/half-hour, $70/hour, and $100/hour and a half. I chose the hour. Having cleaned up before coming over, I declined on the TS. She asks if it's my first time there, I tell her the truth that it's my first first time at any AMP. She proceeds to give a very nice massage. On the flip, she continues a very nice massage and massages almost everthing on the front. She then whispers in my ear "would you like HJ? This is something that I do, mamasan doesn't know. If she found out, she's kill me, you mustn't tell her." They're so cute when they are lying. She proceeds to tell me it will be 5 J's for the HJ, and I as a complete rookie agree. She proceeds to give hj along with prostrate massage. 45 minutes into it she takes hand and slaps it on her bottom. I had no idea that was ok , this is my first time at one of these places. I had been aprehensive about trying anything since there was a surveilence camera in the room. I have a hard time completing the transaction, and at the end of the hour she asks if I want to take the other 1/2 hour for another $30 to the mamsan and another tip for her. I decline. She complains that I make her work too hard, and helps me get dressed. Back to the casinos I go.

A couple of months and several more experiences later I can see some mistakes that were made. I should have lied about it being the first time, there or anywhere. I should have taken the TS. Not only is it a lot of fun, but it gives the girl a chance to see whether you're LE and let others go through your things for same reasons. I should have haggled over the price, I had figured maybe LV was just higher in price due to the high number of visitors, gamblers, and suckers. I should have been roaming from early on to let her know I was not a threat. $100 under my watch would have probabaly gotten more than what the $100 got me through and without negotiating anything.

I did leave feeling on top of the world, and might have gone back if I had a few more days to play in LV.

Wayward One

P.S. if you're in Vegas and you have a BJ dealer named Zana run, don't walk, to another table. I caught her dealing from the bottom of the deck. I did not report it at that time, because I thought the at least her immediate supervisor might be in on it if she was willing to do such things.

Wastrel
03-23-05, 00:51
Next time I stop for a gal who's pretending to wait for a bus on "D" Street north of Washington or Bonanza near the old Moulon Rouge, I think I'll ask if she's "here for the convention." Should be good for a chuckle.

jimbehr2000
03-24-05, 01:37
Wayward One: I would run, not walk to the pit supervisor if I was 100% certain a dealer was dealing from the bottom. They have the game on tape and should be forced to review it and take appropriate corrective action.

regarding your massage: I'm not sure I understood about your hand slapping her butt. Was this 45 min into a hj? Was she hinting at full service or something else? Can you last 45 into a good hj--I could never hold out that long.

Datylike
03-24-05, 04:59
Just wondering if anyone knows the whereabouts of Katie (young, blond, kinda short) who used to hang near the Union Plaza and other spots on Main Street. She said she is from Maryland. If anyone has any info. on her, please PM me, even if she went back home.

PsyberZombie
03-25-05, 07:13
Dealing from the bottom of the Deck ??

Don't they use 'shoes' with eight or more decks any more there in LV ??

p.s. to Wastrel =

I use that 'line' on Week·End Warriors in Strip Casino Bars , but you're right = it usually does get a chuckle

Desert Dude
03-25-05, 15:42
Psyber- yeah, lots of shoes with typically 4-6 decks, but many of the single or double deck games, such as at my all time favorite Gold Spike, are still hand dealt. Not calling bull on the poster, but it is really surprising to hear of that happening. First, they would have to be really sharp to know that the top of the deck has 'hot' cards coming up next, second, the dealer's don't make more money if the house wins anyway, third they would put their whole gambling card on the line if caught. Again, I wasn't there, but it's kinda hard to believe...

3125-nope, 'Katie' doesn't ring a bell, but i'll look for her tomorrow! :D

ItsMeFag
03-26-05, 21:09
Hey fellas

Im visiting from FL and could use some advice. Im obviuosly gonna do
a bit of mongering, so my Q is this, should I rent a car or just walk/take
the trolly/cabs? A car is cheap, I havent quite decided which hotel I m gonna stay at, ok I appreciate all advice!!!!!!!!

Bubby
03-26-05, 22:37
Hey fellas

Im visiting from FL and could use some advice. Im obviuosly gonna do
a bit of mongering, so my Q is this, should I rent a car or just walk/take
the trolly/cabs? A car is cheap, I havent quite decided which hotel I m gonna stay at, ok I appreciate all advice!It depends on what kind of mongering you have in mind. If you're into CW or MP, you definitely don't need a car. Personally, I like to cruise for SW, so I always rent a car. Over a couple of days, it's easy for me to log 200-300 miles on the odometer.

I also like to be able to hit the strip clubs without relying on cabs.

One other major consideration is if you plan on drinking. I don't drink, so I don't have to worry about THAT aspect from LE.

ItsMeFag
03-27-05, 13:57
Bubby

Thanks for the info, I think Ill def rent a car, im not into MP. As
for drinking, there is no issue with that b/c I dont drink as well.
I am going to book a hotel today, any recommendations as to
where the high yield areas are? I have read a fair amount
of posts and it seems as though there is a high yield for just
going in the casinos and finding providers there. When I arrive
should I stick to "the strip" trying to find girls or are there other
streets that are better? Recommended strip clubs?

Peter Kin
03-27-05, 17:27
Visiting LV soon, getting a bit old for wandering the streets in early morning, so am wondering about in house or out calls to me.

Will be staying at an upmarket place on the strip, not confirmed yet.

What are the chances of bar or casino picks say 8-10pm?

Can I take someone to my room or do I have to pay for a double room?

Any recommendations regarding out call girls?

localbozo
03-28-05, 09:02
Wayward,

I will tell you why you are wrong. On a hand held deck of 21, there is a cut card at the bottom of the deck protecting the bottom card. If she were to deal off the bottom of the deck, you would get the cut card. It is possible to deal the second card off the top of the deck, thus preserving the top card. This is called "dealing seconds." Also as Desert Dude mentioned, there is nothing in it for the dealer when the house wins and would be a tremendous risk to their career.

BTW, was in TJ this past weekend. Adelitas is a fricken zoo on a Saturday night, but the place is crawling with 19 year old hottie mexicans. I love Mexico. When will Las Vegas adapt the laws regarding prostitutes in Mexico and more importantly, when will we have hookers for Mexican prices? Just some food for thought.

LB

Wayward One
03-28-05, 19:30
Wayward,

I will tell you why you are wrong. On a hand held deck of 21, there is a cut card at the bottom of the deck protecting the bottom card. If she were to deal off the bottom of the deck, you would get the cut card. It is possible to deal the second card off the top of the deck, thus preserving the top card. This is called "dealing seconds." Also as Desert Dude mentioned, there is nothing in it for the dealer when the house wins and would be a tremendous risk to their career.

LBOk. My terminology was a little off, she was dealing seconds. She has this technique where she would hold the deck in her left hand and use the thumb of her left hand to push the "top card" forward, and then use either the thumb from the top or the first or second finger from the bottom to pitch the card. I noticed several times when the top card did not move from her thumb but another card came out from under it.

My thought was that she was working with the players at 4th and 5th base, who both won or pushed every hand within a 30 minute period. She dealt herself a 20 or 21 on most of the hands, and busted twice. I; however, busted or lost every hand she dealt me in that 30 min. Now, I understand that long runs of good hands and bad hands happen. And I don't have a problem with losing fairly. I use basic strategy when playing. But the first time I saw it I thought I was hallucinating. The second time I caught it I was shocked and curious. The third time, I decided my money would be better used at another location, and colored up what little was left.



Wayward One: I would run, not walk to the pit supervisor if I was 100% certain a dealer was dealing from the bottom. They have the game on tape and should be forced to review it and take appropriate corrective action.

regarding your massage: I'm not sure I understood about your hand slapping her butt. Was this 45 min into a hj? Was she hinting at full service or something else? Can you last 45 into a good hj--I could never hold out that long.
At the time, I thought if she would be so brazen as to do that, then maybe her pit boss might be in on it.

As far as the hand slapping her butt. I'd mentioned that this was the first time I had ever gone to a MP, and I didn't know what the proper behaviour was for such a place. This was 45 min into the session , which was 15 min into the HJ. She was letting me know it was ok to roam. I was worried that if I did something wrong I might get booted from the establishment. Had I known what I've learned since, I would have been roaming from the beginning, taken the TS, and left money out in the open rather than going through the awkward negotiations. Rookie mistakes.

Wayward One

SuperD
03-29-05, 09:21
I'll be staying Downtown in a few weeks on the weekend. Any choice spots close by? Any recommendations?

Cienega32
03-29-05, 09:32
Not for nothing but it's 4th & 5th spots. 3rd base is that last hand before the dealer's (home=house). 1st & 3rd base are traditionally the "working spots" as they can have the biggest influence on the hand & with the thin stacks, the deck.

Bubby
03-29-05, 14:08
Bubby

Thanks for the info, I think Ill def rent a car, im not into MP. As for drinking, there is no issue with that b/c I dont drink as well. I am going to book a hotel today, any recommendations as to where the high yield areas are? I have read a fair amount of posts and it seems as though there is a high yield for just going in the casinos and finding providers there. When I arrive should I stick to "the strip" trying to find girls or are there other streets that are better? Recommended strip clubs?

I really can't recommend one hotel over another. There are too many factors to consider (budget,location preference,etc). As I mentioned, I look for SW and although I've regularly seen CW at various hotels, I have never partaken. For me, the chance of getting a high cost/low quality session is too great. At least with a SW, if the session is lousy or worse, I'm only out $20-$100.

As far as strip clubs, the degree of contact varies. The clubs seem to be hit with LE stings on a semi-regular basis, so from one visit to the next your experience may vary. That said, I had an EXCELLENT time at Cheetahs back in January.

Big Joe 11
03-29-05, 21:02
I saw a sw walking on a back street near LV Hiton and south of Desert Inn Road.
I was not actually look for one but I look at her and she stopped and to look at me. I u-turned and she was at the other side of the street waiting for me. I stopped and ask her did she want a ride and she said yes. The ***** hopped into my car and I discover all her front teeth are missing. Her name is Angel. She directed me to a residentual parking lot and promised a bj for 2 jacksons. She asked me do I have condom and I said no. She went ahead to suck my dick for few times and said she can't do this here and with out cover. She then asked me to take her home, which I did. She went inside her apartment and get a Black guy said her left. I kissed my $40 goodbye. This is the first and last time I will pick up sw ever. I went to Cheetah and have a good $40 lap dance and left LV with a broken heart but at least I did not got jump.

Sleeping Bag
03-29-05, 23:58
About week ago, I was driving and stopped by the cancan on industrial. at door, I was told vip was $250. I walked out and security got me vip for $100. definite con system at work here. anyways, walked in, and the vip actess, Reno, sat next to me. nice girl. I had to pay full $250 to get her in vip. And in addition, need to pay $300-$400 for fs. the other "club girls" I can get at the $100 that I paid. so, a black club girl sat next to me and worked me to hurry to get her into the vip. I was told at door that I have until closing time to go to vip and pick any girl I want. this girl told me that I needed to hurry with her into vip, and then tells me a long story about how the other club girls must charge other vip customers additional $50 until she gets my vip treatment. what a bull. I told her no way and that I was told that I had up to closing time for vip. the great thing about $100 vip is that it includes unlimited drinks. Drinks in Las Vegas are $10 a shot. So if you drink 10 beers or whatever, your vip cost is covered. much better than paying $30 cover and then paying $10/drink. Might as well pay the vip. Then the lady manager comes up to me and puts additional pressure for me to hurry with the vip. she tells me that I had to pick a girl by 1: 30am. I told her to screw herself.

In any case, be careful. You can have a good time here but the pressure to hurry with the vip room makes this place screwed. Dancing is good. Girls work hard for that $1 tip. And thanks to bubby's tidbit in other site, this place is rip-off.

Know One
03-30-05, 01:40
I did a search and found a little information about this place but I'm looking for something a little more concrete.

Basically, would I be shooting myself in the foot by staying here? I was thinking of staying at the MGM but it may too far away from some of my other travel mates. Are there any better places to stay in that area?

Thanks in advance this would be my first trip to vegas.

USTraveller
03-30-05, 04:20
Wayward One (and others who are interested),

I'm happy to hear you made your first trip to an AMP. I think anyone of us who have visited AMPs remember our first time. My first one was in Las Vegas as well and I have since been to many in various cities.

Check out the Special Interest, Massage section of the forum and scroll back and you'll find some good tips as to how to conduct yourself at an AMP. Once you present the fact that you are confident and have done it before, you'll find getting extras much easier.

Like localbozo, I have also found an AMP where I have gotten FS. In Vegas, that's always part luck but I plan on going back to that one on my next trip out. I also plan on trying out some new places too. Sometimes it's fun trying a new place to see what can happen.

-USTraveller

Sleeping Bag
03-30-05, 05:50
I say this not from experience with Las Vegas AMPs but from what a former poker girl turned D.C. AMP girl had told me.

She had told me that AMPs in major cities such as NYC, L.A., S.F., D.C., etc. have younger girls while Vegas AMPs have older girls because the younger asian girls can make plenty of $ in casinos, SC, or escorts. but she said mostly casinos and being CG's.

So this now brings me to my question: If what she says is true, that most AMP girls in Vegas are older, why would some of you guys prefer them? I had visited one Vegas AMP (I forget the name) that was one block from vegas blvd, near mirage. And she was right: those girls I had seen looked old enough to be my moms. That's just gross. Ewwwwwww. If you guys who visit there are old enough to be my dads, then I can understand. But if you guys are mid-20's like me or even 30's, why would you go there? Also the cost at that AMP was outrageous. Anyways, just my two-cents worth. I do plan to visit vegas again in the summer, and hope to score better than i did few weeks ago.

Peace.

Bubby
03-30-05, 18:43
I did a search and found a little information about this place but I'm looking for something a little more concrete.

Basically, would I be shooting myself in the foot by staying here? I was thinking of staying at the MGM but it may too far away from some of my other travel mates. Are there any better places to stay in that area?

Thanks in advance this would be my first trip to vegas.Where are your friends staying?

The Frontier isn't bad, but it would not be my first choice. It's one of the few hotels where I can say I have never seen a CW. Not during the 3 times I stayed there anyway.

The Tropicana Bl./Strip hotels are nicer and will have lots of CW or SW or both, depending on the time of day. Same thing with the Flamingo Bl./Strip hotels.

Pip Boy
03-31-05, 00:21
I have seen sw's in the Frontier, but not often. I seen one who just came in and sat on the massage chair. And I have seen some near gilley late at night when gilley's is hoppin'. Never seen any at the bar. And I have seen sw's in the parking lot or near the sidewalk on the strip. I seem some negotiating in the parking lot. None were particularly appealing, but I'm not into sw's either.

Know One
03-31-05, 00:22
It looks certain that they will be staying at the new Frontier. I've been thinking about trying either the new place across the street, the Wynn LV or possibly Treasure island. Are there any more options at that end of the strip?

What should be my game plan if I'm on foot at that end of the strip?

Thanks in advance

Big Ryan
03-31-05, 00:46
I am planning a trip to LV way out in December, and I was wanting to know about prices in general in the legal places in Pahrump. I don't do the SW thing, and I am staying in a time share outside of the strip so I'm guessing CW's are out as well, so if someone could give me some figures I'd be greatly appreciative.

Muggs
03-31-05, 01:07
This past weekend, I was riding on Decatur between Flamingo and Tropicana going south. As I passed the Bella Vita condos, there was this lady dressed in tight jeans looking very SWish. Well after observing her ( i turned around) she was making eye contact with cars and holding her hand out as to be hitchhiking. I passed again, made eye contact and turned on Harmon where i saw a guy dressed similar to a homeless man acting as if he was coughing...but as i looked closer, he had a small walkie-talkie in his hand. I immediately thought....sting. It was funny, because I could help but wonder why they would be doing a sting in this area.

Any input guys?

Muggs

USTraveller
03-31-05, 01:29
Sleeping Bag,

I actually prefer older ladies in the AMPs. Granted, they may not be as cute as the younger ones. But in my experiences, the younger ones have always seems more mechanical while the older ones seem to be more skilled and into the whole experience. And if you look, you can find some in their 30's that are quite beautiful. Asians have that younger look anyway so it's not like a 30 or even 40 something woman is gross.

Another bonus is that it's easier to communicate with the older ones as they've been in the country longer.

-USTraveller

Wastrel
03-31-05, 03:13
This past weekend, I was riding on Decatur between Flamingo and Tropicana going south...It was funny, because I could help but wonder why they would be doing a sting in this area.

Any input guys?

MuggsVery strange. No one would go there expecting SWs. Plenty visible, so they should get plenty of busts. That really borders on entrapment to my thinking becuase they will be nailing guys who had nothing in mind but a trip to Home Depot or something if not for the circumstance created by Metro. Thanks for the heads up.

Wastrel
03-31-05, 03:28
This past weekend, I was riding on DecaturP.S. I guess it has one advantage: they won't snare any tourists up there, just a bunch of poor locals.

USTraveller
04-01-05, 00:27
Big Ryan,

I know about a year ago, I read somewhere that the absolute minimum was about $150 for FS. But you have to be really good at negotiating. I'd expect the minimum cost to be between $200 and $300 after negotiating down from around $500. Of course, you can pay more and have lots more fun with lots of girls too. Prices are at the discretion of each girl (thus unpredictable) and the house gets 50%.

I went to the Angel's Ladies/Madame Butterfly place north on 95 about 7 years ago (before I found any forums). I was quoted a grand for the hot tubs they advertise. I didn't pay that, but I still payed a lot for my first and only Brothel experience. Here are some tips so you don't get totally reamed:

1) Rent a car and drive yourself. Prices are sometimes inflated for taxi rides and for the "Free" pickup to get you there.

2) Go on a weekday in the early afternoon. If you have the time to spare, you'll have more luck getting a better rate than on a Fri/Sat evening. Mornings are probably not good either as they probably sleep in.

3) State what you want and make sure they deliver. Talk about number of pops and time limits as well as BJ/FS/etc.

4) If the price is high from one girl, talk to the Madam and ask for a different girl. Maybe don't go for the bombshell, but pick a "homely" one.

5) To further reduce the cost, try a shorter timeframe of 30 or 45 minutes. Maybe even try 15 minutes.

That's all I can think of for now. If you go, make sure you report back on where you go and what it cost you.

-USTraveller

Wastrel
04-01-05, 11:40
Hourly rate motel faces crackdown:

Del Mar manager says rooms not being used for prostitution as issue goes before council

With police alleging it is a den of prostitution, the Las Vegas City Council is considering taking the first step toward shuttering the Del Mar XXX Movie Motel, home of the two-hour room rate and complimentary condoms.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Apr-01-Fri-2005/news/26197148.html

Desert Dude
04-01-05, 16:37
US Traveller is right on. Negotiating skills are at a premium. The ranches in Pahrump generally have a minumum of ~250, closer to ~150 or even a bit less north, by Beatty and the other small rural ones. There are some good forums out there specifically on this, might even be one that uses the words nevada brothel girls. UST's 5 hints are worth heeding. And the 15 minute time is really closer to a half hour of total time in most places.

Desert Dude
04-01-05, 18:49
Stayed in the Bourbon Street, next to Bally's. Was heading in after a couple beers at the cheap bar next to the liquor store next to Battista's, and this mid-30's black gal sitting next to the door gave me 'the look'. Knowing that look from my downtown adventures, I started the chatting...Upstairs, .30 for decent bbbj. Only downside was allowing her to use the phone to call her man, on the phone she started yelling at him, had to almost rip the phone out of her hands so as not to attract security. Psycho control, the bsw version of foreplay. Next day, downtown, ran into Cashmere, wsw, now has here own 'place', one of those weekly's near Fremont/Maryland Pkwy. Another .30, cbj/mish. Mid 30's, tall, looks a lot better before she takes her clothes off!

ItsMeFag
04-01-05, 23:27
Hey everyone

Time is ticking till my vacation to Las Vegas, just booked at the Boardwalk. Im looking forward to contributing after my vacation. I have read which hotels casinos have the highest probability of having providers lurking, but, what are the best hours? Any particular hot areas near where i am staying? Thanks!!!

PS I have chosen not to a rent a car and go by foot on the strip, ie NO strip clubs for me!

Muggs
04-02-05, 00:05
Very strange. No one would go there expecting SWs. Plenty visible, so they should get plenty of busts. That really borders on entrapment to my thinking becuase they will be nailing guys who had nothing in mind but a trip to Home Depot or something if not for the circumstance created by Metro. Thanks for the heads up.


A guy could possibly stop to see if she needed a ride. In the just the short time i observed, there were guys baited (i was myself) by her attention. When I saw that undercover...I knew. It was a few other guys around to...possibly others.

You know when I think about it, I've seen "potential" SW on Rochelle (between Decature and Jones) and Lindell...espcially late at night. Maybe just provactively dressed women, or poswsibly SW. Maybe some of the residents complained. I never thought about this until now.

I live near the area. I will keep an eye out.

TJ-VB
04-02-05, 00:09
The Boardwalk is a flea-bag, but just north and across the street is the Aladdin. Certainly you've read about the Lamp bar. Try here after 11pm. Cheaper rates after 2am.

That's pretty much the best time everywhere - after 11pm.

ItsMeFag
04-02-05, 00:28
Damn, if the boardwalk is that bad, should I change my reservation? I can pony up some more money. I am paying 500 for the 14-17 (Thurs/Fri/Sat). If the hotel is truely that bad, let me know ASAP and ill drop some more cash for a better hotel (and hopefully on some advice, something better for picking up a casino girl!)

Also, been doing some research, any good reviews on a little swing place called rendezvous? I saw an add on CL so I thought I would ask, thanks!

Wastrel
04-02-05, 01:22
Damn, if the boardwalk is that bad, should I change my reservation? I can pony up some more money. I am paying 500 for the 14-17 (Thurs/Fri/Sat). If the hotel is truely that bad, let me know ASAP and ill drop some more cash for a better hotel (and hopefully on some advice, something better for picking up a casino girl!)I just made a quick check of occupancy on the strip for that weekend, and was amazed to discover that the Sahara, a really crappy old joint on the undesirable northern fringe of the Strip, is asking four-hundred bucks PER NIGHT, or $1,200.00 for your brief stay, for that time period. Many others were higher, or not available at all.

If you are not flexible in your travel dates I think your choices are: to relax, bend over, and try to enjoy it; or not.

Regards,

Wastrel

Dick in Shape
04-02-05, 07:35
They usually have pretty good rates and the rooms are nice; then you'll be set for action at the Lamp.

Bird of Prey
04-02-05, 11:25
You better be in shape because you have no idea how long the strip is. For that matter how far it can be between properties. Rent a car, you get VIP Parking and Valet Service at most any casino for just the cost of a tip. Park it yourself trying to be cheap will wear the shoe leather out fast.

Vegas dbls and triples rates Fri-Sat. Just avoid the weekend. Avoid Circus Circus no mater what the rate. Scuzzy best describes that place. I walk on the other side of the street. This is NO SHIT!

I've never paid more than $35 a night at the Riviera, Four Queens, Kirkpatricks, Startosphere etc. They (Casinos) almost always have specials. I get emails 6-7 a week from the MGM, Excalabiur, New York, all offeriing $50 a nite and less.

There is a tram that runs from downtown to the strip and then all along the strip, but you can die of heat stroke waiting in the summer. The new Monorail is open now, but I haven't been there yet to experience it.

It's hard not to have a great time in Vegas. Don't get busted by letting your little head do your thinking and remember... They didn't build those monuments to greed by giving a sucker an even chance, You will lose money if you gamble. Just make and then stick to your plan about how you plan to lose it.

Mass Hog
04-02-05, 13:25
[QUOTE=ItsMeFag]Damn, if the boardwalk is that bad, should I change my reservation? I can pony up some more money. I am paying 500 for the 14-17 (Thurs/Fri/Sat). If the hotel is truely that bad, let me know ASAP and ill drop some more cash for a better hotel (and hopefully on some advice, something better for picking up a casino girl!)

Download Travelaxe. You should be able to do much better.

JPF
04-02-05, 16:00
to ItsMeFag:

There are always plenty of people walking on the strip so I don't think I am alone when I say that you can walk to many places. From the Boardwalk you can reach many places between Flamingo and Tropicana in less than 15 minutes.

I don't like paying for parking and have never felt that I had to walk very far from the self-parking areas to the hotel/casino. These are usually covered so that you aren't in the heat which is the main reason not to walk on the strip during the day.

I haven't been to rendezvous but all the swingers clubs in town have the reputation of being overpriced with low odds of having a good time. Be cautious of fees upon fees if you go there.

Long Duck Dong II
04-02-05, 18:24
Damn, if the boardwalk is that bad, should I change my reservation? I can pony up some more money. I am paying 500 for the 14-17 (Thurs/Fri/Sat). If the hotel is truely that bad, let me know ASAP and ill drop some more cash for a better hotel (and hopefully on some advice, something better for picking up a casino girl!)

Also, been doing some research, any good reviews on a little swing place called rendezvous? I saw an add on CL so I thought I would ask, thanks!Dude,

The Boardwalk is horrible. DO NOT STAY THERE. And for some unknown reason, it's absolutely ridiculously priced (Probably due to location). Stay at the Monte Carlo next door for the same price. But I warn you; DO NOT STAY AT THE BOARDWALK. (Consistently rated the worst on the strip. Even worse than Circus Circus, and about 1/10 the size too)

USTraveller
04-03-05, 00:09
I stayed at the Boardwalk a few years back when it was still a Holiday Inn and it wasn't bad at all. The rates were great and it's located in a pretty good spot near the Monte-Carlo and NY/NY. It's a great place to check out the bridges over Tropicana. Maybe check out the Hotel San Remo or even the Tropicana. If you don't mind a different area, try the Imperial Palace. Call the hotels directly and see what kind of rate they offer as it may be better than a travel site.

The bad thing is weekends in Mid-April, you won't do all that great. It's only 3 nights and you probably won't be spending that much time there anyway, so I'd try it. It's not the Bellagio and I'm not sure how bad it's gotten since I've been there. The rooms were decent and I felt safe. I do recommend NOT going to the 24 hour buffet though. That had to be the worst I've ever eaten, and I've eaten at the Riviera buffet. I hope it all works out.

-USTraveller

Wastrel
04-03-05, 01:07
Every one of the hotels mentioned by everyone as a good alternative for that weekend for him is NOT AVAILABLE for that time slot, as well as others. Aladdin, Flamingo, Imperial Palace, etc, etc, except for the Trop and the San Remo, which have a few of their least desirable rooms at a high price, and the Stratosphere, which would be a definite downgrade in location, all for over six hundred wholesaler's rate.

The town really is fully booked for that weekend, even downtown looks very tough to get in at any price, whether direct or from wholesale booking agents. Even Buffalo Bill's in Primm is booked up for godsakes. Even the dumpy off strip Golden Palm wants $600 if you could get in, which you can't. This happens once in a while on really, really busy weekends. I don't know what y'all are doing in town that weekend, but there are several hundred thousand of you eagerly planning in advance to do it, and willing to pay through the nose to do it then instead of later.

Those great deals are available for people with flexible travel dates on a midweek stay during a much slower week only.

Scrodie
04-03-05, 05:04
The Boardwalk isn't bad, though it certainly ain't the Bellagio. It's dated, but the rooms aren't too bad. I do agree that the buffet is bad. It should only be a destination at 3am if one is both really drunk and really hungry. The Boardwalk's days are numbered as it is going to be razed to make room for "Project CityCentre", MGM-Mirage's new huge project. It will be the single largest private development ever constructed in Las Vegas.

As an AMP fan, I have had some of my best experiences with older masseuses, typically up to their forties. I go to MPs not just to get off, but for a relaxing, "treat you like an emperor" experience. Typically the best HJs given at AMPs, in my experience, are by older masseusses.

Speaking of MPs, here are a couple of reports. I've been to VIP a couple of times recently. Each time I had Jennifer. I'm not sure of her ethnicity, but would guess Hispanic. She's stacked and a little curvy, in a good way. She gives the same options as the others there.

I was in a "Mrs. Robinson" mood and had a good time with an incall escort, Mary Jane White Turkey (she's blonde and part Cherokee). She has an apartment east of Wynn's new place and for a couple of Benjamins and a tip I had a most pleasant time that included travels to Greece and Russia. She knows how to give a mean BJ, too, and has probably mastered this from years of practice.

I also had a pleasant surprise. I went to a "legit", "therapeutic" massage therapist for a massage, only expecting a massage. I had been there before and had never gotten more than a massage, but had a great massage. This is the kind of massage place, where you lie between the sheets and they only remove the part of the sheet they're massaging. I think most of their clientele is women looking for Canyon Ranch treatment without having to pay Venetian prices. Last time I was there, I noticed the therapists were dressing a little provocatively (short skirts and low cut tops) so I had a glimmer of hope for more. I also was at a store next door recently and noticed a couple of therapists outside who caught my eye, as they were, shall we say, well dressed. The girls I've seen there are all white; one had an Eastern European accent.

I went there and a very hot masseuse from the South gave me a great massage, including a scalp massage, which I love. She seemed to be getting close to my happy area, much moreso than other non-erotic massages I've had. When I was on my stomach, she got on the table, kneeling between my legs to massage my back and legs. I began to hope for more than just a massage. She didn't recover me with the top sheet and asked me to flip over. I did and she asked me if I wanted "that area" massaged. Who would say no? She whipped off her top, had very nice large breasts, and began to massage "that area". She removed her panties and I played with her a bit. She seemed to enjoy Russian and that's how I finished.

I spoke with her afterwards and she said some of the girls there offer extras if they feel comfortable with the client, usually to repeat clients. They want to be careful and subtle, and not attract the attention of Metro or disrupt their other clientele. We all know Las Vegas has no other crime and Metro should focus their attention on the happy ending epidemic. If any senior or established regular members are interested, PM me and I'll give you more specifics about this massage place.

ItsMeFag
04-03-05, 15:00
Looks like I should have consulted the brothers on the board FIRST before booking:( I did another check and you guys are right, most of the rooms are booked, even the ones that are slightly off the strip. The reason we picked that weekend is because me and a buddy just coudlnt get any days off (work is extremely hectic) and this was the only weekend we could get off...

I didnt plan on walkin the WHOLE strip (although i did seem to underestimate its size). According to the posts I have read, im going to focus my search from the area around my hotel to the bridge near NY/NY. It seems driving the usual spots in vegas is pretty decently high on milage and is hit and miss. Although valet parking is a good idea, im taking a decent amount of cash with me, and we all know that you have to pay to play....

And thanks for the info about the buffet at the Boardwalk!

Vegas Man
04-04-05, 01:08
I set up an appointment with a provider from CL. Her ad was listed as "HUNGARIAN/ WHITE FEMALE 38DD 4 SENSAUL MASSAGE OR FUN - 23". I talked to her on the phone and she asked me what services I wanted. I thought that was strange since most providers don't talk about specifics on the phone. i told her we could negotiate in person. I showed up at the place anyway. She totally stood me up. No prob.
Anyone else have experience with this provider?

OCTraveler
04-04-05, 15:12
Will be in LV Sat thu Tue next week - am staying at the Orleans ($79/night on Priceline) - any recommendations for entertainment? Much rather spend my money on beds rather than the tables!

Cole Slaw
04-04-05, 16:40
Hi all,

First off wanna say very excited since this is my first post. Thanks for the upgrade, Jackson.

Gonna head off to Vegas in a few days. Gonna try some amps I've seen in the phone books. I know most amps in Vegas offer only hj, can anyone recomend a good one that offers fs? I would appreciate it very much! Thanks in advance!

Cole Slaw

haynbraddah
04-04-05, 18:39
Will be visiting the 702 next month and wondering if and where are any AMP's near the strip. Cost? I've visited quite a few here in HI and wondering if there's any cost difference. Help please.

Southpaw
04-04-05, 22:29
I've exchanged emails with her. I was thinking about getting with that on my next trip out. What a shame if she is just playing and not providing.

Fun In Virginia
04-05-05, 09:09
Tuesday 4/5 early AM report (4-5AM). I am staying at the Aladdin and have read about the 'lamp bar' in this forum. I am not sure where that is in the casino but there are several working girls hanging at the small bar right in the middle of the casino. I did not even approach them - too much $$.

Instead I cruised Boulder Highway and picked up 'Cherry' near Nellis Ave. Older blonde, short, not bad looking, probably would have looked worse naked. Went for a BBBJTCIM for $40 in the car. She had a place nearby for FS but I wasn't interested. She was nice and not strung out or rushed.

I did not see much else on the drive down the strip and out Fremont. One black chick working near downtown who did not look too bad.

Happy hunting.

Desert Dude
04-05-05, 11:39
I've exchanged emails with her. I was thinking about getting with that on my next trip out. What a shame if she is just playing and not providing.
I've also been IM'ing with this one, seemed legit, but busy with kids. Not that that's an excuse. I'll see if see comes on-line, and try to get some info.

Wastrel
04-05-05, 23:53
...am staying at the Aladdin and have read about the 'lamp bar' in this forum. I am not sure where that is in the casino but there are several working girls hanging at the small bar right in the middle of the casino... Virginia,

That circular bar in the center of the casino is indeed the spot affectionately known as the "lamp bar." It became known as such becuase until recently there was a giant golden "magic lamp" suspended in the air above it. The actual lamp is no longer there.

The former owners of the Aladdin were forced into bankruptcy, and the court eventually awarded ownership to a cabal of creepy entertainment industry celebrities doing business as Planet Hollywood. Some months ago I knew through some friends in middle management at the place that they would be getting rid of the lamp as part of the new ownership's plan to re-brand and re-theme the joint for their crypto-commie friends from Malibu, so I thought I had put in the fix to take possession of that lamp in it‘s retirement.

A few weeks ago I strolled in to admire my lamp only to discover it had been removed, not only from it's accustomed place of honor, but from the property altogether. This atrocity was committed ahead of schedule, and I am very reliably informed that I was outbid by some M@#$%RF^%$ING C@&^S%KER of a guy who somehow figured out how to tow it off the strip on the spot the instant it came down, and that he has hollowed it out and turned it into a hot tub in his suburban Las Vegas home. I am not joking. I am very seriously pissed off about this.

But it will always be known to me, and perhaps to many others, as the "lamp bar" in spirit.

Regards

Wastrel

Two Nutts
04-06-05, 09:59
My curiosity has got the better of me, and I have to ask, what would you have done with the lamp?

TN

Guady1
04-06-05, 14:20
This is my first post but I have alot of knowledge in mongering, most of it while in Hawaii, but I now live in vegas, I will start to post my experiences.

First, Vegas has turned out to be a disappointment as far as mongering, I guess for me. I don't think anyone should pay the prices I see people paying, anywhere. I have been to the Philippines and Mexico, so yes, I am alittle spoiled.

As far as Vegas, let me say I work in one of the finer casinos on the strip and lets just say I work in public safety. Because of my job, I get close and personal with the cw's. they tell me everything.

Clue number one, always low ball. One woman told me she charged $500 at one casino and $200 at another for fs and I asked her why was there such a price difference and it came down to how you bargain,same service.

When I came to Vegas in Jan. of 2002, I lived in Henderson and I went to an AMP called Sunset Message (which is in Henderson). I swear, I had the best time back then. In the first 6 or 7 months, I saw 5 different women and all of them gave me a GFE.

I stopped going, moved onto other deeds and I went sometime last year and it totally changed. For some reason, they only want to give you a HJ? Maybe they got busted and if they get busted giving a HJ, it won't seem as bad since they are "massaging" you.

I have not found my niche here yet. I don't care for sw's, AMP's are tricky, and outcalls are really risky. I like cw's but I get bored waiting around for them. I went to places like The Red Rooster and the Green Door, the thing with those places are the people are FAT and or not exciting. I wouold not join in.

From what I have seen, a good way to meet a girl is to wait for them outside of any club. They are primed. You have to have a good talk but they are worht it (and it probably will be free.).

I have more to talk about "Sin City" in other posts, by the way, in spanish, "Sin" means without, always remember that when doing business here.

P.S. Guady comes from Guadalajara, the name came out wrong.

Wastrel
04-06-05, 18:55
...what would you have done with the lamp?Dos Cojones,

I have absolutely no idea. The thing was sculpted out of some kind of ultra dense styrofoam-like material.

W

Dame Leeman
04-07-05, 14:24
I'm leaving for Vegas pretty soon and I have no experiencing mongoring in Nevada. I know prositution is legal in that state except in the city of Las Vegas. I've also heard of "bunny ranches". Anyone have suggestions for good ones that are not too far out of the city? Any info on mongoring in this city would be greatly appreciated. You can PM me and I'll swap info on Los Angeles where I'm a pro.

Thanks again.

Mike 80
04-08-05, 00:15
Was in LV last weekend and spent most of my time gambling (and losing), but did venture out for some mongering on Sunday night and Monday afternoon. I've never seen less SW action in many previous trips to Vegas. Although I occasionally go the CG and bar girl route, I usually prefer something less expensive. During several cycles, I found nothing downtown (--except for a scarred-up, scary looking 50yo), zero on Boulder, nothing in the Hard Rock area, nothing on Koval. Did see one decent-looking possibility near the convenience store at Twain and Swenson but she was quickly gone before I could even be sure she was working. Got out of the car in the wee hours and found nothing around the MGM walkway either. Not enough sin in Sin City.

Maldito
04-09-05, 20:52
I'm leaving for Vegas pretty soon and I have no experiencing mongoring in Nevada. I know prositution is legal in that state except in the city of Las Vegas. I've also heard of "bunny ranches". Anyone have suggestions for good ones that are not too far out of the city? Any info on mongoring in this city would be greatly appreciated. You can PM me and I'll swap info on Los Angeles where I'm a pro.

Thanks again.Dame Leeman,

The actual Bunny Ranch is in Moundhouse, Nevada, just outside of Carson City. The best houses in the Las Vegas vicinity would be either Sheri's or The Chicken Ranch in Pahrump, which is about an hour or so drive from Las Vegas. In the other direction there are The Cherry Patch #1 and #2 about the same distance away but they are definitely not worth the trip.

Profrom Dover
04-09-05, 20:52
Just so you know. The reason you won't find a room at a cheap price next weekend is that there is a big, convention. 90-100K+ attendees starting that weekend.

I would say, pick another day.

Cole Slaw
04-10-05, 00:05
Hello all, just got back from Vegas a few days ago.

Tried out a few amps but only was offered hj. One of them was mentioned a few times in this forum. Service was decent, she had nice tits and a pretty good attitude. 70 for an hour and she asked for 60. I ended up giving 80 since she was nice.

The other one I tried was ok. Face wasn't that great but had a nice attitude. I found both from the phone book in the hotel room. Hopefully next time I go I will get fs, which was what I was looking for. Happy hunting.

Cole Slaw

Know One
04-10-05, 15:08
Was in LV last weekend and spent most of my time gambling (and losing), but did venture out for some mongering on Sunday night and Monday afternoon. I've never seen less SW action in many previous trips to Vegas. Although I occasionally go the CG and bar girl route, I usually prefer something less expensive. During several cycles, I found nothing downtown (--except for a scarred-up, scary looking 50yo), zero on Boulder, nothing in the Hard Rock area, nothing on Koval. Did see one decent-looking possibility near the convenience store at Twain and Swenson but she was quickly gone before I could even be sure she was working. Got out of the car in the wee hours and found nothing around the MGM walkway either. Not enough sin in Sin City.The reason was probably a major sweep related to the incoming convention. I'm just repeating what I've read on another board but some locals who posted had some eye witness acounts of CG being hauled off.

LV Fan
04-10-05, 17:44
Stayed in the Bourbon Street, next to Bally's. Was heading in after a couple beers at the cheap bar next to the liquor store next to Battista's, and this mid-30's black gal sitting next to the door gave me 'the look'. Knowing that look from my downtown adventures, I started the chatting...Upstairs, .30 for decent bbbj. Only downside was allowing her to use the phone to call her man, on the phone she started yelling at him, had to almost rip the phone out of her hands so as not to attract security. Psycho control, the bsw version of foreplay. Next day, downtown, ran into Cashmere, wsw, now has here own 'place', one of those weekly's near Fremont/Maryland Pkwy. Another .30, cbj/mish. Mid 30's, tall, looks a lot better before she takes her clothes off!It has been a while since I posted. I didn't realize this thing was back up. I hooked up with cashmere around the same time. You're right, she looks better with the cltohes on and she told me she was 40, so I thought she was doing well for her age. She also doesn't rush, and everything seems negotiable as long as you're nice. I have always thought this a good practice anyway. I am still surprised at the crap I can talk girls into doing as long as you are nice and realize it is a business.

USTraveller
04-13-05, 11:00
I've gotten several PMs about AMPs and thought I'd address some of the questions here.

1) Where are AMPs located? There are tons of AMPs in Las Vegas. My first advice is to drive around off the strip late at night and look for the neon "Open" sign in the various strip malls. If you want to find a specific one, check the phone book for an address. Most of them are easy to find if you have a basic knowledge of the street layout. Five years ago, it was difficult. Now, there are tons of them.

2) What are the prices? The prices for the basic 1 Hr. massage range in price. Rates start in the $60 range and go up from there. More money doesn't mean a better massage. Rates can be different for many other reasons (location, supply/demand, etc.). I've seen hourly rates in the low hundreds. As far as extras, the average seems to be 60/80/100-120. This is for HJ/BJ/FS. Yes, you may pay more or less as there is no set price list.

3) Where can I get FS? The real answer is I have no idea. Getting FS in a Las Vegas AMP is different from other cities. You have to be at the right place at the right time. If there is a line to get in, then your chances are probably slim. There are other tips like being a repeat customer, etc. Look at the Special Interests/Massage section for more general info on AMPs. Sometimes, the provider is just into you and will go for it.

4) Can you tell me which AMP you got FS at? No. Just because someone got FS at a place doesn't mean you will. I also don't want a line of people going to that place. Some ladies told me not to tell anyone and I respect that confidence. I also don't want to deal with giving out "Bad Advice" where I say I had a good time, then you go and have a bad time and write off the place, and my advice. I'm not even confident if I go back that I can get FS again so I can't recommend a place to others. FS is still a rarity.

Keep in mind that my concerns above are only for Las Vegas. AMPs in other cities are so much easier to deal with.

-USTraveller

Desert Dude
04-13-05, 11:44
Interesting article in today's RJ about a loft project being planned around Fremont and Maryland Parkway. http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Apr-13-Wed-2005/news/26275641.html

Wonder who the brunette was? 8:15, must have still been up from the night before!
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Part of the resistance to investment along that stretch of Fremont has been the public nuisance and misdemeanor crime problems there, which prove an almost constant headache to businesses.

About 8:15 a.m. Tuesday near the Lucky Motel across the street from the 30-unit Urban Lofts site, a brunette in a dirty mauve sweater, denim shorts and flip-flops asked male passersby if they "need to be helped out." She would not disclose to a reporter what this entailed but said it would cost $60 and assured "you'll like it."

Just around the corner, in front of the storefront Jesus Is The Answer church, two men sat on a bus bench sipping from cans concealed in brown paper bags and taunting streetwalkers. One eventually rose and went to urinate behind the nearby Family Food Market.
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...classic....

Vegas Man
04-13-05, 23:45
I read in a lot of AMP reports that some folks are waiting to be offered certain services at the amps. I find that there is no harm in asking. I have found many providers willing to do fs ( never for a price I want though). The girls have never offered me more than a hj without me prompting for more. Just wondering if other folks were asking the girls for more, or just waiting to be offered more.

Muggs
04-14-05, 02:51
Someone told me that at least 10 AMPs were busted for prostitution in the last few days. I cannot find anything on it. Is this true? Anyone heard?

USTraveller
04-14-05, 03:21
Vegas Man,

I've asked for services beyond the HJ and have gotten more. I've also asked for more and been flat out denied back to the HJ level. But I agree, if you wait for here to say "I'll give you a BJ for $80", it probably isn't going to happen like that. Never say never though!

What a drag if there are AMP busts going on. I hope it's not true.

-USTraveller

localbozo
04-14-05, 09:50
I've gotten several PMs about AMPs and thought I'd address some of the questions here.

1) Where are AMPs located? There are tons of AMPs in Las Vegas. My first advice is to drive around off the strip late at night and look for the neon "Open" sign in the various strip malls. If you want to find a specific one, check the phone book for an address. Most of them are easy to find if you have a basic knowledge of the street layout. Five years ago, it was difficult. Now, there are tons of them.

2) What are the prices? The prices for the basic 1 Hr. massage range in price. Rates start in the $60 range and go up from there. More money doesn't mean a better massage. Rates can be different for many other reasons (location, supply/demand, etc.). I've seen hourly rates in the low hundreds. As far as extras, the average seems to be 60/80/100-120. This is for HJ/BJ/FS. Yes, you may pay more or less as there is no set price list.

3) Where can I get FS? The real answer is I have no idea. Getting FS in a Las Vegas AMP is different from other cities. You have to be at the right place at the right time. If there is a line to get in, then your chances are probably slim. There are other tips like being a repeat customer, etc. Look at the Special Interests/Massage section for more general info on AMPs. Sometimes, the provider is just into you and will go for it.

4) Can you tell me which AMP you got FS at? No. Just because someone got FS at a place doesn't mean you will. I also don't want a line of people going to that place. Some ladies told me not to tell anyone and I respect that confidence. I also don't want to deal with giving out "Bad Advice" where I say I had a good time, then you go and have a bad time and write off the place, and my advice. I'm not even confident if I go back that I can get FS again so I can't recommend a place to others. FS is still a rarity.

Keep in mind that my concerns above are only for Las Vegas. AMPs in other cities are so much easier to deal with.

-USTraveller


I have been PM'd by several fellow mongerers after posting several weeks ago about fs in an AMP in vegas. I may have been naive to this fact, but #4 in USTraveller's post is dead on. I really don't discuss or compare services I have received at AMP's with other people; and I have also had girls tell me not to talk about what services they provide. I received FS at two different amp's here in vegas and told one mongerer about it. He PM'd me back saying all he got was a so so massage and a HJ. YMMV says it all. Also, he may not have seen the same girl that I did.

As far as prices are concerned, USTraveller pretty much covered this too. I find in general $40 for 1/2 hour, $60 or $70 for 1 hour. Tips are $40-60 for hj, $80-150 for bj, and $120-250 for fs. I would not necessarily pay these top end prices, but I have been quoted them. Remember though, most AMP's in Vegas do NOT provide fs.

Happy AMPing all...

LB

Wastrel
04-14-05, 22:33
The reason was probably a major sweep related to the incoming convention. I'm just repeating what I've read on another board but some locals who posted had some eye witness acounts of CG being hauled off.Runnow,

Your post got me curious, so I did a little legwork on the Strip. If there's been any kind of general CW crackdown it has been spectacularly ineffectual, at least everywhere in the vicinity of Flamingo and LV Blvd. I went to some of my favorite mid-Strip venues and found the working ladies as active and plentiful as I've ever seen them in and around all the casinos from Harmon to well past Flamingo. There were hungry hot women crawling all over the place, with a wink and a nod from casino security, and in PsyberZombie's phrase they were all obviously "here for the convention" (not).

This does not necessarily mean that the information you got from another board is not true. Something to understand is that in any given week there is almost always going to be a CW housecleaning going on at one or two of the Strip resorts. This is fairly routine, and can happen at a particular hotel when the crowd in town for last week's boxing match is leaving and the convention of the association of chiefs of police is booked into that hotel for the following week, or when management decides that things have simply gotten a little too much off the hook due to an excess of indiscrete bad behavior from some working girls who really don't belong on the Strip. This kind of thing is usually specific to only one or two properties and generally only a temporary condition, even though it may look like the sky is falling to someone who happens to be at that hotel when management says it's time to run them out.

The CW and SW situations don't usually overlap much. They are different markets that may as well be in different cities, and in fact they are, as the Strip resort corridor isn't even in Las Vegas. SW action within the city continues to be relatively slow in many formerly reliable areas compared to what it was, as it has been for about two years now that I have noticed.

I don't know what discussion board or forum the information came from. I regularly participate in another site similar to this one, but I know it wasn't from that forum as the active discussion threads over there relating to Las Vegas were started by me. I believe it would violate the policy of this forum to post the name of the site, and I don't want to do that or to encourage you to do that, but I wonder if you could provide any more specific information such as the names of the casinos where this was reportedly seen or the section of the Strip where it was said to be happening. If so, I'd be more than willing to check out the status of the CW situation at those venues and report on what's up there, and it may also be possible for me to chat with some trusted friends who work for the casinos depending on which property or area it happens to be.

Regards,

Wastrel

New Man
04-14-05, 23:14
At 3400 S. Jones, I dreamed that I had a good, and I mean really good, massage. It was mid-afternoon. Probably THE best massage I've had at an AMP. Of course, in my dream I was yearning for more, but this visit was impressive. Jean worked on me for more than an hour for the 60 house fee. When I was getting ready for the massage, I laid a few jacksons on the stand next to the massage table as a peace offering. I dreamed that I finished with more than a HJ, but the reality of my dream was a HJ. A nice one, though. I wished she would have taken off a few articles of clothing in my dream, but that didn't happen either. It is likely because this place is very NEW. In my dream I did get to feel some really nice, soft t*ts. Her english was not so good, but I did understand that for my next visit, I'd get the same price. No table shower, just house shower, what ever that means. Because of the great massage, for which I would have tipped two jacksons alone, and the sensitive, caring HJ, I tipped 3 jacksons (in my dream). On my way out, she wrote my name on a "frequent visitor" card, and said the 10 visit is free. Yeah, man, I'm looking forward to that one. I expect that by being somewhat of a regular, there is more to come, so to say.

Wastrel
04-15-05, 11:53
Someone told me that at least 10 AMPs were busted for prostitution in the last few days. I cannot find anything on it. Is this true? Anyone heard?Muggs,

This may be what you heard about. As most readers of this site probably know, Henderson is a suburb of Las Vegas. This appeared April 11th, from the Sun:

Massage studios may lose licenses
City considers ban on stand-alones; prostitution alleged

Henderson is considering banning stand-alone massage studios after a sting operation uncovered alleged prostitution at four of the six such businesses in the city, officials said.

Nine women from the four businesses were arrested last fall for prostitution and related code violations, according to Henderson Assistant City Attorney Liza Conroy.

Those revelations have prompted the City Council to consider revoking the licenses of three of the four businesses. City planning staff members have also recommended Henderson change its ordinance and prevent any new stand-alone massage studios from opening.

The Henderson Planning Commission will consider the ordinance change on Thursday.

The city's crackdown on massage studios has prompted the lawyer of one business owner whose license is slated to be revoked to accuse Henderson of unfairly targeting businesses owned by those of Asian descent. Las Vegas attorney Linda Norvell has filed a lawsuit in District Court to delay the revocation hearing, which is scheduled for May 3. Norvell also is asking a judge to force the city to turn over documents detailing its undercover sting operation.

Seventeen more paragraphs, including names of MPs, in complete story at:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/lv-gov/2005/apr/11/518583353.html

gplagge
04-15-05, 17:11
I also had a pleasant surprise. I went to a "legit", "therapeutic" massage therapist for a massage, only expecting a massage. I had been there before and had never gotten more than a massage, but had a great massage. This is the kind of massage place, where you lie between the sheets and they only remove the part of the sheet they're massaging. I think most of their clientele is women looking for Canyon Ranch treatment without having to pay Venetian prices. Last time I was there, I noticed the therapists were dressing a little provocatively (short skirts and low cut tops) so I had a glimmer of hope for more. I also was at a store next door recently and noticed a couple of therapists outside who caught my eye, as they were, shall we say, well dressed. The girls I've seen there are all white; one had an Eastern European accent. Scodie -- dude your mail box is full. can you send me a pm with the name and location?

Thanks!

Know One
04-15-05, 17:32
Runnow,

I don't know what discussion board or forum the information came from. I regularly participate in another site similar to this one, but I know it wasn't from that forum as the active discussion threads over there relating to Las Vegas were started by me. I believe it would violate the policy of this forum to post the name of the site, and I don't want to do that or to encourage you to do that, but I wonder if you could provide any more specific information such as the names of the casinos where this was reportedly seen or the section of the Strip where it was said to be happening. If so, I'd be more than willing to check out the status of the CW situation at those venues and report on what's up there, and it may also be possible for me to chat with some trusted friends who work for the casinos depending on which property or area it happens to be.

Regards,

WastrelI just assumed that it was a temporary thing. I dont the the regulations exclude posting portions of the post I read! The post was made on 4/6. It's fourth had hear say at this point so treat accordingly!

"a UC friend of mine, this was going on for the last two weekends, just last week was worse. They took every girl in the casinos that they knew of to be working, and either gave them "loitering with intent to prostitute", or "trespassing"; and they busted as many agency girls as they could get up to the room (its the phone girls job to screen local numbers out of the people who call but I guess some slipped); and yes they busted a few net girls, but none I know. The problem was it was the end of March madness (people may have big money to spend) and the start of a few bigger conventions out here, so they wanted to clean up the casinos a bit before all that stuff hit. The guy told me they had the big paddy wagon bus, and two little ones make 2 trips down to CCDC (jail) with over 200 girls, and that they called in UC from the surrounding states (Colorado, California, Arizona) and from Florida to help out.

My girlfriend, who works the bars, said she had never seen so many UC in her whole time being out here; that every hotel she went to had at least 3 sets (they travel in sets of two), which is unusual for them, usually they cover two or three big hotels at a time, but not all of them, and that most of them were some she had never seen before... I know they just hired/fired a whole bunch of the Vice squad for being crooked and using their badges as a shield, taking girls for no reason and blackmailing girls into doing things or giving up their friends or information about someone, so I know some of the faces she had seen may have been permanent, but who knows.

Alias for obvious reasons, folks, dont wanna get into trouble or get others into trouble for divulging so much info, but Im sure you know who it is."

ItsMeFag
04-15-05, 20:37
Hey fellas

Coming to you live from the mgm buffet!!! So night number 1 was amazing...gambled, lost, and then I won on the streets. I didn't rent a car so I was on foot. There was nothing until aroun 11, then it got interesting....

On a simple walk from the mgm to the alladin (yes I know, long walk) I was approached by 10 to 12 girls...all over 6 on the scale. Prices were 400 but it was easy to talk them down. Settled for a philipino girl, a bit thick (not to be confused with fat, she's 22 and in good shape). Firm legs,ass, just a small tummy. I'm probably over critical but that's just me. Settled for 160 for an hour. Great attitude, not the greatest lay, but she had implants and that usually does it for me. Overall a good experience. Contact info for those who gave me hints\advice prior to my trip. And tonight, I go out again.

Ps is it worthwhile to hit up crazyhorse 2 or spearmint rhino?

Speck
04-16-05, 02:12
If you are getting fs from a hot cg working on the strip for $160 for an hour(basically unheard of rates for the type of action you are describing on the strip in Vegas), wtf would you want to go to a strip club where you are going to spend more, but not get sex?

Tropic Tourist
04-16-05, 19:20
In LV there are several AMP's on Spring Mountain Road. Some are open 24 hours. I have had lot's of luck at these. The late closing time( 3am or open 24 hours) says something to me!

I usually don't ask, I just let my hands roam their body, conveying my mood. I pay the hourly rate and tip an equal amount to the masseuse. By the time I have a happy endingI know what type of woman she is. If I'm interested, I usually invite them out the next night for a visit to Victoria's Secret at the Fashion Mall(near the strip) and sushi afterwords. Then on to my hotel room for a 3-4 hour session. I get their personal phone #'s to rendezvous after their work and see them on return visits to LV.

It costs me $100 on the "date" night ( that's less than the cost of the massage session the night before) and that includes my sushi and drinks. But that is money well spent. In my room we are free to go at it. When we are done, I drive them back or pay for the taxi.

Many of these girls work 6-7 days a week, with no chance of a good time. I'm not handsome but I know how to treat a lady. And in my room I get what I want. I can usually tell if I will have a good time with her from the massage session, and they all love Victoria's Secret and sushi.On the return trips I just skip the massage session and arrange to pick them up after their work. This method has worked for me.

Wastrel
04-17-05, 08:18
Runnow,

Hmmm.

Thanks for reposting the information from that source, even though I feel pretty confident in saying that it is not literally true, in that nothing of that large scope has happened. I would speculate that maybe it's possible that the account is based on an actual, but considerably smaller, incident that got embellished or exaggerated in the process of retelling of it, but there has been no sign of any massive crackdown throughout the resort corridor on the scale described in that post.

I can tell you for sure that there hasn't been any high-end hooker shortage on the Strip any time in the recent past. Now, the LV Convention and Visitor's Authority really should look into doing something about the asking price and the service quality of the casino working girls, but the quantity and selection definitely have not been a problem at all, including the end of March beginning of April period implied in that post.

I’m also quite sure there hasn’t been any wholesale firing of Metro cops as that post alleged. The Metro police union has what amounts to a veto over any discipline, which means there generally isn’t any. Firing a cop in Vegas is a multi-layered and very public process that costs a fortune and takes forever to even attempt, and is so rare that it is front page news.

Examples of the very few times in the last five years when a police officer was actually canned in Vegas: the Metro detective repeatedly caught on tape committing a string of armed robberies of bars and liquor stores using his police firearm and his GPS tracking device equipped police issued vehicle, and the policewoman who regularly used the North LV police evidence locker to re-supply her son’s crack house. I don’t think there have been as many as ten Metro officers actually fired since the turn of the century. Examples which did not result in anyone getting fired: planting dope from the evidence room in someone’s car (it was an “accident” which they just “forgot” to mention before going to court), and beating a very elderly retired man within an inch of his life when he failed to put out his cigarette fast enough when ordered to do so during a traffic stop.

But I asked you for it, and you provided, so thanks for passing it along so I could take a look.

W

Cienega32
04-17-05, 20:09
I agree about the Metro firings. If there was a wholesale house cleaning the news would be flooded with the story and it run ad nauseum. In this town something like that would not stay under wraps for more than 3 minutes. As understaffed as they claim to be, it would create a logistical nitemare as well.

The news would have had the story at the start of the investigation - long before the alleged terms.

And then you would have all the backlash from the terminated officers. You know there would be more than one lawsuit for unlawful termination or some happy crap.

There was one cop, a while back, who had a hooker under wraps for his own entertainment. It backfired on him. There was also a cop who was forcing couples to have sex while he watched. I think he was finding them "parked" or whatever.

Wasn't the elderly gent assaulted by the Henderson PD down by the... aw hell - what's the name of that joint by Merlayne... Skyline?

There always is some kind of sweep activity that runs before a main-stream convention or big-draw event. All it does it move most of them a block over, so to speak...

EZ Street
04-17-05, 22:40
I have seen a Thai lady several times recently. She advertises in the City Life. She is 40 years old and decent looking. She gives a very good massage. I have had her give a deep tissue massage and found it to be very relaxing. She actually has gone through school to get licensed and is working in one of the massage parlours in town.

She also gives massages currently in her residence which is off of Spring Mountain, near Jones. She obviously enjoys giving massages and provides happy endings. Does not seem to mind roaming hands and has gotten naked on occasion. Do not know if she will go the complete distance or not. She is a little harder to get a hold of for a private session now that she works. Any way, if you are looking for a really good massage and at least a hj, you may find her to be what you are looking for. Look for her ad in the CL. It starts something like "once touched". Or I have her number and you can pm me.

USTraveller
04-18-05, 00:13
For anyone interested in general AMP guidelines and tips, I updated my AMP guide from over a year ago and created a new thread in the Special Interest/Massage section of the forum. This is based on my experiences and some tips I got from others. Read through it and hopefully, you will have a much more enjoyable AMP experience. And if I missed something, feel free to add your own tips and tricks.

Also, thanks localbozo for confirming some of my thoughts. I'm glad I'm not alone in my findings and opinions about Las Vegas AMPs. I also like Tropic Tourist's idea of asking to see the girls outside of work.

-USTraveller

Wastrel
04-18-05, 09:10
C.32,

Yes, it was in Henderson. And after the event it was "discovered" that the dashcam recorder had been disabled.

W

Wastrel
04-18-05, 09:19
I have trashed the Golden Nugget in the past in this forum, but there have been some surprising signs of life at the back bar lately. Haven't seen that in quite a while. Other downtown denizens might like to know that the prissy boys are in the process of selling it, and perhaps that is why it has been perking up a little. I didn't see anything worth a special trip, but if you're knocking around downtown anyway it may be worth a look, at least more than it has been for the past few years.

W

Datylike
04-19-05, 06:17
Anyone out there been with Jamey lately (young LSW, spinner, nice tits and ass, a little heavy), hangs in the downtown area. I'm from Cali and hooked up with her the last time I was in town, a couple of months ago. Just wondering how she's doing and how the service is. Also wondering if anyone has the digits.

Travel Guy
04-19-05, 07:55
I have been coming to Vegas for the last 5 years and mongering and playing golf. This is a golf question.

My friends and I keep paying this 125.00 per round and some very nice courses, but there must be some courses that are a lot cheaper. I'm looking for the $50.00 per round with cart. I hope that someone can help.

Sorry for this not being about mongering. I do have some good reviews on *** of some of the lady that I have seen in Vegas.

Thanks

Wastrel
04-19-05, 08:24
I have been coming to Vegas for the last 5 years and mongering and playing golf. This is a golf question.

My friends and I keep paying this 125.00 per round and some very nice courses, but there must be some courses that are a lot cheaper...You could see if this site lists something that will work for you:

http://www.cheapgolflasvegas.com/courseinfo.htm

Demand for almost everything in Vegas is seasonal, so prices depend on when you're planning to be in town. You do know that it often gets over 110 degrees in the shade after May, right?

Two Nutts
04-19-05, 09:37
I was at the Nugget in March. The last night on the way to the room I stopped at the $5 machines by the bar, close to the elevators. A cute girl about 30 saw me hit a $400 win and come right over. (she was in there playing a $5 vidio poker machine) She said thats a nice way to cap off the night. I said yeah, now I should spend it on some memories instead of another machine. She said maybe I can help. Small talk bla bla. Then wife comes around corner says something to me and girl was just gone. This was about 3 AM on a Wed. I'll never know.

Two Nutts

Desert Dude
04-19-05, 12:42
Yeah, you need help all right hahahaha. Hopefully somebody else will pitch in [no pun intended] with a course or two in Vegas proper, the two I know are 30 and 60 minute drives, but, to me, well worth it. Boulder Creek, the old course, is under $50. Good conditioning, new carts, fairly unpunishing course, great friendly staff. In Boulder City. An hour away, in Pahrump, is the new Mountain Falls course. Haven't played it yet, hit their range Saturday. Around $55, $30 after noon, including cart. New course, outstanding conditioning, back nine [if I recall correctly] can be punishing. Some construction activity is a bit distracting, but only on the 1st and 10th tees.

Plus, just to keep in the spirit of the forum, it's only a ten minute drive from there to Sheri's Ranch! Even if you don't monger there, it's a super bar for a beer after a round!

PM me for one other option if you are interested, a discount last minute tee time company, I'd rather not post their details here...

Wastrel
04-19-05, 20:41
Dude,

After looking up the definition of "mauve" I'm pretty sure I just saw the newly famous "sixty bucks, you'll like it" girl from that Review-Journal article working the corner in front of the Seven-Eleven at Fremont and LV Blvd at 2:45pm this (Tuesday) afternoon. I thought sixty sounded high for downtown, but she's kind of fresh faced and has really nice legs. Doesn’t look or act like a tweaker at all. She still really does need to launder that sweater though, even if there's nothing wrong with the little skirt she's wearing. Thought you might like to know. I may have to buy a camera one of these days.

StonesX2,

If you don’t mind my unsolicited opinion, gotta give the little woman a REALLY big bag of nickels next trip to town. As an aid to the preservation of marriage, right?

W

Two Nutts
04-21-05, 12:29
WASTREL,

This ol'boy has been preservering for 26 years plus. So that bag of nickles unfortunetly, has long been turned into dollars for her. LOL

I believe she was keeping an eye (or both) on me. Like I said the girl was cute.
After a full day of trade shows and about 6 hours of beer drinking as well as rum & coke all night, I honestly don't think I would have been UP to it anyway. But next March I may stroll that area again with a little more juice left in the tank.

Stroll Looker
04-21-05, 21:41
Looking for contact number for a reliable provider, I mostly date WSW and HSW. So any help finding a good one would be a welcome.

Joe Coodidge
04-27-05, 01:36
I've been hitting several Vegas AMPs and for a moment I thought it was a waste of time. Tonight I went to one on the corner of Sahara and Detour (on the second floor). At first it all looked like I was going to get some action. Provider was Korean, about 26-29, decent body and face. While faced down she did all the right things (tease my ass). When I turned around, she could clearly see I was ready for some action but nothing. I mean, it was a nice massage but that was it.

I left there still horny as hell so I went to another AMP off Spring Mountain. There were quite a few but I settled on one. I went in and immediately saw that the walls to each room did not go all the way to the top. Not too private so I thought this was another no-go. This provider was Chinese, short, and kind of cute (about an 8). Nice perky tits. She gave a great massage when I was faced down. When I turned around I was so hard the little sheet she gave me was poped like a tent. She looked at me and smiled. She gave me the old "hand job" signal and I agreed. A little pricey but I was so horny it did not matter. Man , did it feel good. Afterwards she completed the massage which was nice.

J

JPF
04-27-05, 15:37
Joe C,

You've had bad luck. Almost all of the AMPs on Sahara offer a happy ending. But I concur that the place on the SW corner of Decatur and Sahara does not.

Know One
05-02-05, 00:01
Has anyone been to the new Steve Wyn place yet. I image it has given that end of the strip a more high end draw, but I haven't heard anything. I hear there a some high minimum for some of the tables. Also I've been checking a lot of site lately to get a grip on the Vegas scene. Is there a general consensus on what the best "bang for the buck" is where fs is concerned. It seems like for the prices quoted here that you could pay about the same ($$$-$$$$) and get a sure good time with and idie. Then again you don't get the excitement of the unknow!

mdoar123
05-02-05, 16:52
I am in town this week staying at the mandalay bay, and i have had no luck finding any CW's. I walked around at 2am last night and Midnight on Sat and didnt see anything. Am i looking in the wrong spot or times? Maybe its just the Mandalay.

Anyone have any other suggestions ? Should i take a tram to excalibur and look on the walkways?

Thanks

Player33
05-03-05, 14:48
We had a party in the suite and called an escort service. We told the escort service what type of girls we were looking to get up there.

Its $ 100 per girl to get the 3 girls there. Then we paid around $ 300 per girl for doing stripper dances and lap dances.

We agreed up front what to pay them after they got there instead of having guys throw money. Then those that wanted it, could pay the girls for extras in the bed room.

Overall, I think this was alot better than wasting time and money in a strip club, and not get what you wanted in the 1st place.

Wastrel
05-03-05, 17:11
has anyone been to the new steve wyn place yet. i image it has given that end of the strip a more high end draw, but i haven't heard anything. i hear there a some high minimum for some of the tables. also i've been checking a lot of site lately to get a grip on the vegas scene. is there a general consensus on what the best "bang for the buck" is where fs is concerned. it seems like for the prices quoted here that you could pay about the same ($$$-$$$$) and get a sure good time with and idie. then again you don't get the excitement of the unknow!i went there late sunday night to take a look. there were a fair number of cws around midnight, but nothing different than what i might expect to see at any of the major resorts on the strip.

i saw a lot of tables that had one-thousand dollar minimum bet signs posted.

the working girl i chatted with at the bar near the race and sports book also wanted to post a one thousand dollar minimum, but was probably more negotiable than the tables. she was bored and pissed off becuase she'd been carded twice already by security. said they thought she could be ****. she was twenty-eight and looked older than some of the security guys. no doubt she was actually carded becuase of the painted-on outfit she was wearing that screamed "rent me."

i was amazed that there were also quite a few ridiculously obvious pimps and pimp wannabes floating around hassling the working ladies. memo to casino security: attractive young women are good for business, packs of stupid young men in suede leisure suits with six fake gold chains and feathered hats are bad for business; ladies good, pimps bad, got it?

by the way, it took me more than a few minutes to figure out that the good looking young vixens wearing simple but elegantly sexy black dresses are actually employed by the casino in some kind of hostess role to give directions and make guests feel welcome. they appear well equipped for the task, but i'm glad i didn't embarrass myself by making one of them another kind of offer before i learned the score on the nature of their employment.

the cheapest drink at the bar is five dollars. and up, way, way up. ms. slinky working girl next to me paid about twenty bucks for a glass of something or other.

to find something nice to say, self parking was a lot easier than i thought it would be, and appeared to be a better arrangement than most of the big resorts' garages.

y'all will be glad to hear i took care not to soil mr. wynn's new carpet on my way out.

regards,

wastrel

Wastrel
05-03-05, 17:19
I am in town this week staying at the mandalay bay, and i have had no luck finding any CW's. I walked around at 2am last night and Midnight on Sat and didnt see anything. Am i looking in the wrong spot or times? Maybe its just the Mandalay.

Anyone have any other suggestions ? Should i take a tram to excalibur and look on the walkways?

ThanksYes, it is no doubt just a temporary drought at the Mandalay. The CW I just mentioned in my post about the new Wynn resort said she usually goes to the Mandalay Bay.

Your proposed solutions are sensible and likely to be productive in my opinion: a tram to another major casino, and patrol the walkways. I've almost never found the walkways short staffed for working ladies.

Regards

Wastrel

Muggs
05-04-05, 02:44
Boulder seems to be picking up. There are a few girls that work the local suites past Boulder Station towards Sam's Town.

Just be on the look out.

Adickt
05-04-05, 04:12
Poor quality. Watched about an hour a month ago. Nothing I could use.

Know One
05-04-05, 22:21
I was amazed that there were also quite a few ridiculously obvious pimps and pimp wannabes floating around hassling the working ladies. Memo to casino security: attractive young women are good for business, packs of stupid young men in suede leisure suits with six fake gold chains and feathered hats are bad for business; ladies good, pimps bad, got it?

By the way, it took me more than a few minutes to figure out that the good looking young vixens wearing simple but elegantly sexy black dresses are actually employed by the casino in some kind of hostess role to give directions and make guests feel welcome. They appear well equipped for the task, but I'm glad I didn't embarrass myself by making one of them another kind of offer before I learned the score on the nature of their employment.

The cheapest drink at the bar is five dollars. And up, way, way up. Ms. slinky working girl next to me paid about twenty bucks for a glass of something or other.

To find something nice to say, self parking was a lot easier than I thought it would be, and appeared to be a better arrangement than most of the big resorts' garages.

Y'all will be glad to hear I took care not to soil Mr. Wynn's new carpet on my way out.

Regards,

WastrelThanks for the information. I'll have to stop in. It's not to often you find real live pimps. I think they're an endanger species. Then again they should be!

I was hoping The Wyn would spruce up that end of the strip but I hope it doesn't change the economy. I guess I’ll have to negotiate down from $$$$$$.

Wastrel
05-04-05, 23:32
From today's Review-Journal:

Henderson targets 'massage studios'

Prostitution arrests close stand-alone parlors

Be they legitimate businesses or dens of prostitution, stand-alone massage parlors appear to be on the way out in Henderson.

City Council members on Tuesday gave preliminary approval to an ordinance that prohibits establishment of so-called "massage studios" where giving massages is the primary use of the business.

The ordinance is slated to come back to the council for a final vote on May 17.

The measure was proposed after citations were issued for illegal sexual activity at all but two of Henderson's six stand-alone massage parlors, a city staff report said.

The ordinance states that "owners of several massage establishments have conducted business in an unlawful, improper or irregular manner in that each has continued to utilize massage therapists who solicited and/or committed acts of prostitution."

Complete article available from the R-J at:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/May-04-Wed-2005/news/26437257.html

Cienega32
05-05-05, 07:48
All that results from that "sting" last year, no?

What really gets me is why they put so much time & effort into an activity that takes place behind closed doors between two consenting adults. If I was one to find such activity objectionable I think I would know to pass that one up - make a mental note for future reference but pass it up.

If these guys that find it so disgusting were being held down and being forced into sexual contact w/ the providers then they might have a point. Of course the providers might have a whole new line of clients but you know what I mean.

I would like to know just how it's determined that they are a "a public nuisance and have created a drain on city resources". Does that translate into "there's money changing hands & we're not getting any of it"?

Cienega32
05-05-05, 09:08
The Del Mar, home of the 2 hours for $35 hotel rate on the strip, has been shut down.

JPF
05-05-05, 10:57
LV Review article is at:

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/May-05-Thu-2005/news/26446608.html

One part I liked:

In the most dramatic moment of Wednesday's hearing, two police officers wheeled before the council members more than 150 pounds of condoms seized from the motel during a November raid, dropping them before the council dais with a thud.

The four boxes held 11,955 condoms, and a handwritten log found with them indicated that the 35-unit motel went through an average of 144 condoms a day, Sgt. Eric Fricker testified.

Wastrel
05-05-05, 14:38
The four boxes held 11,955 condoms..."Eleven-thousand nine-hundred forty-six, eleven-thousand nine-hundred forty-seven, eleven-thousand nine-hundred, uh, er, oh.."

"One rubber ducky, two rubber ducky, three..."

Cienega32
05-05-05, 17:07
144 a day? Hell, that's only 6 per hour or 4 per room over the course of a day. Doesn't sound like they were too busy. Of course, they make it sound like gaggles of hooks going thru revolving doors in the rooms.

Scrodie
05-05-05, 19:40
I may have mentioned this before, but there is a "rest of the story" with regard to the Del Mar. In Las Vegas, money is everything. We don't have too many Bible-beltish moralists here (one reason I love living here). We also don't have many uber-feminists here (yet another reason I love living here). Money rules all. If the right political wheels are greased, the proper contributions made to the Metro "widows and orphans fund," etc. the law pretty much tolerates whatever.

The Del Mar is on a piece of land on the Strip between Downtown and the Stratosphere/Sahara. This area is primed to boom, and some developments, including high-rises are already under construction. The word on the street is that some investors wanted the land the Del Mar sits on. The owner was making a lot of money with the Del Mar and didn't want to sell. The investors apparently upped the ante to force him to sell. I think the Oasis Motel, which is very similar to the Del Mar, is still in operation. The charges at the Del Mar are BS. If they wanted to close every hotel in Las Vegas where prosititution occurs, they'd have to close the Del Mar, the Bellagio, the Luxor, the Excalibur, Circus-Circus, the Riviera, the Rio, Motel 6, etc.

I don't know why Henderson decided to crack down on AMPs all of a sudden. There might be more to the story here, or it could be that Henderson is trying to establish itself as a "family friendly" part of Las Vegas. AMPs are exploding, pun intended, within the Las Vegas City Limits and in the unincorporated areas.

Cienega32
05-06-05, 11:06
As far as "the rest of the story" goes, I think most owner operators in that area realized that they were marked for extinction when they dolled up the intersection of 3rd & the strip years ago. That whole run of the strip - damn near up to Fremont has been marked for "cleansing" for 20 years. I think if they want to make some impact they should start on the other side of the street - on 3rd street. They know that once the traffic control changes come in they've been marked. More traffic=more exposure=more complaints. They call it a "revitalization campaign".

The area just west of the strip & north of Wyoming used to be a monger's paradise. One could drive up Casino Center behind the old Odyssey Records and cute chicks would pull up their shirts just to get you to stop. A lot of the empty lots used to be riding acadamies. The city put in a little traffic control (along w/ more black & whites) and it slowed down a little 10-15 years ago and now is nothing at all like it used to be. The more "repulsive activities" of the street-banging crack-crowd being attracted to that area helped kill it too. Crack & needles don't mix well w/ puss. Never has. It's always been a formula for problems on both sides of the monger/tourist & city fence.

Just like downtown - after Moran ran all the "good girls" on the strip into the ads & flyers business - all the riding acadamies just north of Fremont began shutting down for whatever type of violations (building codes, etc) and eventually ended up burning down or being razed and strangely turning into hotel parking structures for a song & dance.

Another big push in another golden oldie area is the stretch of the strip by Bonneville. The good ones (riding acadamies) on the strip have been sliding into oblivion since the mid-80's and many were where you can find government buildings of some type or another. Or something that's more city council friendly.

The statement about shutting down hotels where prostitution occurs is a bit off-base. Hotels where it occurs and motels that cater to it (riding acadamies) are two different animals. Finding a decently dressed, moderately attractive woman at a casino bar for $$-$$$$$ ain't the same as cute chicks hanging over the balcony in their nightgowns or bathing suits. Sadly those chicks have transformed into crank-skanks and, for the most part, have become a PITA in regards to Metro "tourist" related crime calls over the last 15-20 years. Hence the canopy on Fremont. Ran them off that area a bit and they can make their own rules under it being a colloboration of private/city energies. The big push to bring tourists back to a "bad area".

A lot of the old riding acadamies that are still left on Fremont have been gussying-up knowing their day is short. The area of Fremont between Bruce & Eastern is another soon-to-be extinct area. All it takes is a school, senior-related places and some "city-friendly" businesses to start the ball of scrutiny rolling. The more empty lots that pop up are a sign of success for the city.

Shutting down those nice & friendly HO&MO-tels downtown "off Fremont" have made places like Del Mar flourish on in an attempt to get it while it's there to be got.

That whole area on the strip between the Strat & Fremont is a commercial goldmine and the "old-timers" & the city know their days are numbered. All they need is to have council members know how to legally cover their tracks (like Michael Mac somewhat did), throw in a couple of sacrificial lambs like Erin Kenny and they're gold.

After 24 years & witnessing many re-inventions of the town I'm ready to leave it behind. It's still, in my mind, a small town w/ a hick-town mentality. But now it's 15 pounds of sh!t in a 3 pound bag. Happy 100th Las Vegas!

Da Bot
05-07-05, 09:59
Hit this AMP off Paradise just north of Flamingo Rd.

Expensive (by my standards, anyway): .5 for 30 min, $ for 30 min w/TS, $ for 60 min, $.5 for 60 min w/TS, etc. $ for HJ, $$ for nude body slide. Provider was no better than a 6 or 7.

I'll stick to LA and DC.

Vegas Pro
05-07-05, 16:37
Awhile back some guy posted a reply about low cost providers as an alternative to the girls in the casinos. He said to look in the back of City Life and you can find plenty of them which would only run you about $150. I tried some of the photo ads but they were all agencies.

Any suggestions?

thanks

Vegas Man
05-07-05, 20:09
Are there any oher cheap motels like the Del Mar that we can go to instead?

Rascal X
05-07-05, 21:05
I called an ad in Citylife that said "beautiful Japanese lady" and was directed to a Budget Suite Hotel on Rancho across the Fiesta Casino. The lady was in her 40's but okay looking and very nice. She gives a great massage with a choice of oils and is not rushed. Nice release. Total price $110.

Wastrel
05-09-05, 21:42
...I don't know why Henderson decided to crack down on AMPs all of a sudden. There might be more to the story here, or it could be that Henderson is trying to establish itself as a "family friendly" part of Las Vegas. AMPs are exploding, pun intended, within the Las Vegas City Limits and in the unincorporated areas.In my opinion, it is the begining of the Richard Perkins for Governor campaign. Perkins, you may recall, is the highest ranking elected Democrat officeholder in Nevada as Speaker of the House, and is simultaniously Chief of Police of the City of Henderson. He is now fully vested in his very generous retirement pension plan, so he can leave one or both of his jobs without risking any significant loss of publicly funded income. He is widely presumed to be the most likely Democrat nominee for Governor, and has been assembling staff and organization to make a run for that office. I predict he will run as a "law and order, tough on crime, while I really care about the little (union) workin' folk" candidate. He wants to be somewhat "un-Vegas" to sell himself upstate.

And in a lame attempt to make this post somewhat relevant to the purpose of this board, I'll mention that the Henderson stretch of Boulder seems the better half of that SW track the last several weeks, out well beyond Sam's Town, which is farther than I used to go when hunting that area in the past.

localbozo
05-10-05, 07:34
Awhile back some guy posted a reply about low cost providers as an alternative to the girls in the casinos. He said to look in the back of City Life and you can find plenty of them which would only run you about $150. I tried some of the photo ads but they were all agencies.

Any suggestions?

thanks


Go to the back of the city life and find ads for Asian massage incall that direct you to an appartement, like on West Trop or something. Years ago I got decent service by a very young pretty K-girl at Trop and Lindell. DO NOT use ANY agency under any circumstance unless you like getting ripped off. Good luck and report back if you find a decent score.

LB

LV Fan
05-11-05, 00:28
Are there any oher cheap motels like the Del Mar that we can go to instead?I know there is at least one other. I believe it is the Oasis (guys help out if I am wrong), but I would be leary of any of the hourly places on the Blvd. these days. It seems that LE or the City is looking for more creative ways of imposing immenent domain. There are also a couple on Freemont just south of Charleston, but you have to be a lot more cautious here. I have heard of more than a few people getting rolled there. Another interesting development, for those with time to drive a little farther, is an upswing in girls on B. Hwy that have there own rooms. As for me I try and find the casinos with discounts for locals, and take a stroll on the strip.

Vegas Pro
05-11-05, 00:38
Go to the back of the city life and find ads for Asian massage incall that direct you to an appartement, like on West Trop or something. Years ago I got decent service by a very young pretty K-girl at Trop and Lindell. DO NOT use ANY agency under any circumstance unless you like getting ripped off. Good luck and report back if you find a decent score.

LBActually, I meant outcall services. I have a regular place I go to for incall.

LV Fan
05-11-05, 23:48
I was surprised to see how busy the Blvd was tonight. I thought it would be dead after they shut down the Del Mar, but there was actually some good stuff out there. One HSW around an 8 and one WSW closer to a 6 and a little older. However, I am still gun shy. I don't want my face showing up on the news. I did take a ride down Boulder Hwy though. It wasn't as pretty down there a few WSW's on the chubby side, and a couple BSW's that were around a 3 or 4. Farther down south of Trop I thought I had scored. I forgot her name as soon as I started (Dorthy or Dotty, maybe Daisy). Anyway she was 6'2" w/ dark curly hair and a cute face H/BSW. She has a place, but the manager gave her sh*t as soon as we pulled up. I almost bailed (probablly should have) but it was my last chance for the night. When we got in she was definitely a freak. She told me how she liked the greek and everything else. Claims she was a porn star too. Maybe before she hit the pipe, because when she took of her blouse that chest looked empty. I figured what the hell for .5 I was getting a BBBJ CIM with some keepsakes to take with. She wasn't horrible and was willing to provide a GFE, but I wasn't into all that. She has been in the same spot for a month so I am sure if you want to take a crack at her you'll have a chance.

Cienega32
05-14-05, 04:26
So I figured I would hit Fremont for the festivities, etc. Stopped in the Glitter Gulch for the first time in years. Last time there the 2 drink minimum came to $11.50. Holy crap when they said $17.50! Lots of cuties but 17.50?!!!

I did notice that the Asian girls - cuties - didn't feel the need to dance. They just kind of strut around the stage in a knowing kind of way.

Romeo1
05-14-05, 08:06
Interesting time during a night I had in Vegas last week. I had dinner at the Bellagio. They have stunning models/waitresses at their main bar and grill dressed in little black dresses. I walked next door via the skybridge to Caesar's Palace and checked out the sports betting forum. As I was leaving, I passed a beautiful tall Asian women walking down through the casino. I smiled and she smiled back. We spoke and went to the Sillouette Bar and had wine and a new drink (for me) called "Sex on the Beach". Turned out she was in town for 4 days from LA looking for work and was broke. It was late, and so I bought her a bowl of Asian noodles at the food court. She was famished and ate hungrily. The rest of the evening was strange--her impulse to hang with me and help out her situation vying with her dignity and independence (let's go dancing, let's not go dancing; let's go to my casino hotel, let's not...). She was Cambodian, 5'7", 26 years old, thin, beautiful, her pretty hair fell to her lower back. Eventually we went to a high end dance club and ended up having a strange conversation in my room about what we could do next. Finally, I left her in the room to buy condoms downstairs (nothing of value was in the room). When I returned she was under the covers waiting, with the sheet pulled up to her chin. She was very shy and taut when I touched her. She moved my hand over her waist and I sucked her nipples. She quivered, but was passive. She finally said I could enter her. I told her this was going to happen only if she participated more. She didn't permit DATV. She at first said she would rather go and got up. I said let's go ahead and she returned. She then gave very nice oral sex. During sex, she was passive, but very wet and her lower body was very active, with moaning and thrusting movements even after I was finished. She stuffed $100 I gave her for food into her purse without looking at it. She continues to send $300/month to her family in Cambodia despite a low income in California and her being broke while trying to move. Only in Vegas.

Two Nutts
05-16-05, 09:31
I think I read that book. She ended up winning a million bucks with your $100 and started her own amp. Brought her whole family over to Vegas. They all work at the Imperial Palace. LOL

Two Nutts

Guady1
05-17-05, 17:47
I went over to the new Wynn last night, monday night, the strip was slow. I had not been in there since it opened and decided to check it out after all the hoopla was over. I figured there had to be some desperate housewives around.

I saw maybe two girls and they didn't give me the time of day so I just decided to gamble on my favorite slots since we all know new casinos are more generous when they first open. I walked away with $186 while playing a $20, I was feeling good. I thought I would check out Boulder Hwy since there were alot of msgs about it lately.

On the way there from Sahara, I decided to stop by the Greendoor just to look what's in the area. Sure enough, this young BSW came around the corner and she saw me parked and stopped near me. I waved her over and told her to get in the car since it was alittle chilly.

She said her name was the typical "Tiffany" and that a "basic" would be $40.
I thought, damn, thats cheap, I pay $60 for the AMP's just to go to a room.
I drove to a dark spot, asked her to hop in the back, she asked for the money so I took out two twentys, so I thought.

Later when I looked in my wallet, I had given her a $100 and a $20. The lady at the change booth had given me a $100 bill and 20's and I don't normally carry $100's. I was trying to hurry up and get to the action with this BSW that I didn't take the time to turn on the light and see what i had gotten out of my wallet. Talk about dumb luck, what was the chance of me grabbing that $100.

She had a nice face, very nice body and I think she might have be 19 or 20 even though she told me she was 22, she was very new at what she was doing. The only downer was she had no personality, I had to keep talking (about nothing) to keep the tension low.

I decided not to pound her all night because one, we were in my car and two, she didn't keep my interest. I think it lasted about 30 minutes. She did say afterwards (and I didn't ask her too) that "she enjoyed it" even though she wasn't suppose to. She said she normally walks from the Strat to Freemont but went to that area because it was slow.

Cienega32
05-19-05, 02:09
Later when I looked in my wallet, I had given her a $100 and a $20.

She did say afterwards (and I didn't ask her too) that "she enjoyed it" even though she wasn't suppose to.
I think there might be a connection here...:eek:

Damn shame tho'. I've always had that event happening in the back of my mind.

Two Nutts
05-19-05, 10:12
Later when I looked in my wallet, I had given her a $100 and a $20.

Don't feel too bad. I did the same at a amp in Louisville. I gave a 50 and thought I gave a 20 didn't realize until i got back to the hotel. Or maybe they got into my shirt while i was in the shower. Who knows. Its only money.

Guady1
05-19-05, 12:42
I didn't mind spending $120 for a piece of ass, its just that she didn't do much to make it worth that price, except in the end she said she liked it. The only reason I qouted her saying that is because my mongering experiences are not for sex per se, but to see if I can get her to do or say soemthing she would not normally do for other guys, thats the score.

I did learn something and would like to pass it on. When its slow, of course, the cards are on your side. I saw one csw after another come into my casino and walk right back out and all I could do is bite my fingers and wish that I wasn't working.
I told myself if I could just stand at the bottom of the elevators, I could make a killing. What I would do is watch as she goes into the casino, if she comes back very soon (and I don't mean 30 minutes or so because she might have had a room call) but less than ten minutes. You could easily score as she goes back to her car. You just have to speak up, she is looking for business and don't mind where she finds it.

Wastrel
05-19-05, 21:07
From the Sun, Wednesday, May 19th:

Judge candidate once worked as topless dancer

The leading candidate for the newly created Henderson Municipal Court judgship said she worked for a year as a topless dancer at a Las Vegas strip club to put herself through college in the early 1990s.

Diana Hampton, 39, said she worked seven years at Cheetahs strip club, starting as a topless dancer in 1991 when she earned $1,000 a week. She said she worked the last six years as a bartender at the strip club until she graduated with a bachelor's degree from UNLV in 1997.

Hampton, who in February stepped down as a prosecutor in the Henderson city attorney's office to run for judge, was the leading vote getter among four candidates in the April primary. She will square off June 7 against Michael Miller in the general election.

Complete article (28 more paragraphs) in the Las Vegas Sun at:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/lv-gov/2005/may/19/518782393.html

P.S. She's married to a Henderson police officer.

USTraveller
05-20-05, 04:03
Wastrel, I guess things like that (topless judges) only happen in Las Vegas. That's why I love the town. Maybe that will be a new costume instead of schoolgirls and nurses.

As far as the mistakes with money, I always make sure that when I'm mongering, I arrange my wallet accordingly. I put any big bills that I don't plan on spending folded up behind the license or in some other pocket in the wallet, or in my sock. For an AMP, I make sure I have the door fee ($60ish) plus enough for FS if I can negotiate it ($100-$120). I keep that in the money compartment as it looks like that's all I have. I'd adjust the money accordingly for CW and SW and even a Brothell. If they think you have more, they'll want more. And yes I understand, sometimes it's dark and you can't see, so plan ahead and know what's in your wallet. Wait, that sounds like a Capital One commercial.

-USTraveller

Bubby
05-20-05, 18:19
A similar thing happened to me about 10 years ago. I went into Glitter Gulch with some friends, had a few overpriced, frosty, non-alcoholic beverages, and a lap dance. After the first $20 dance, we hung on the rail again until something piqued our interest. I went with another dancer, and before she started, I asked how much? She said $100! I said, no really, how much?, and she stayed with $100. Another dancer quoted one of my buddies the same thing. We left in a hurry, a little pissed off, but ready to leave anyway.

The next morning, I noticed I was missing a Franklin. I was a bit younger then, and we had 3 or 4 guys sharing the room. I was convinced one of those suckers had nabbed my hundy while I slept.

It wasn't until later, I put 2+2 together and realized that I gave that stripper $100 for a lap!

OUCH!

Live and learn.

Bango
05-22-05, 00:19
First time trying the vegas mp scene, went down towards China Town. Surprised of the large selection of places still opened at that hour we were searching. Around midnightish. We were taking a buddy for his first time and we chose this place on the left side of the street heading west. Kinda hidden heading that direction but right across the street are another two mp's. (we were actually across the street and just happen to see it when we were parked).

Very clean place, shower, price was $.7. Saw a jacuzzi but didn't use it. It was actually a very nice massage, 9/10. She did the whole walking on back deal =)
Price was steep, $.6 for rushed HJ :(. Personally wouldn't go back for anything other than a massage.

IndyDave
05-22-05, 09:16
MPs in LV are disappointing, imho...tried a couple on Paradise north of Sahara. Very expensive. only one time on early Sunday AM did I meet a really pretty girl who enjoyed the process, but I paid way too much, probably about $$.5.


First time trying the vegas mp scene, went down towards China Town. Surprised of the large selection of places still opened at that hour we were searching. Around midnightish. We were taking a buddy for his first time and we chose this place on the left side of the street heading west. Kinda hidden heading that direction but right across the street are another two mp's. (we were actually across the street and just happen to see it when we were parked).

Very clean place, shower, price was $.7. Saw a jacuzzi but didn't use it. It was actually a very nice massage, 9/10. She did the whole walking on back deal =)
Price was steep, $.6 for rushed HJ :(. Personally wouldn't go back for anything other than a massage.

IndyDave
05-22-05, 09:17
Where is China Town in LV? News to me.


First time trying the vegas mp scene, went down towards China Town. Surprised of the large selection of places still opened at that hour we were searching. Around midnightish. We were taking a buddy for his first time and we chose this place on the left side of the street heading west. Kinda hidden heading that direction but right across the street are another two mp's. (we were actually across the street and just happen to see it when we were parked).

Very clean place, shower, price was $.7. Saw a jacuzzi but didn't use it. It was actually a very nice massage, 9/10. She did the whole walking on back deal =)
Price was steep, $.6 for rushed HJ :(. Personally wouldn't go back for anything other than a massage.

Vegas Partier
05-22-05, 10:43
Where is China Town in LV? News to me.Spring Mountain Road between Valley View and Decatur. It's essentially a bunch of strip malls with Asian businesses. Not what one would think of a china town in places like SF or NYC.

Cienega32
05-22-05, 19:56
Spring Mountain Road between Valley View and Decatur. It's essentially a bunch of strip malls with Asian businesses. Not what one would think of a china town in places like SF or NYC.
And to think it all started on a dirt lot at Spring Mt & Wynn. I used to take an old Malaysian girlfriend there to buy her bags of stuff for tea. Now that whole stretch of Spring Mountain is mainly Asian businesses and called a cultural center.

I hear that when 'they' buy "Play It Again, Sam" it'll be renamed "Love You Long Time, Joe!" :D

USTraveller
05-23-05, 14:23
I had my first AMP experience in China Town. I was driving up and down Valley View trying to find a strip club on Procyon and saw a sign that pointed to China Town. I was curious and it was late (around midnight), so I drove west on Spring Mountain and found one with an asian name in a plaza on the left. My only info about massage parlors were that "asian" meant at least a happy ending.

I walked in and there was a guy at the counter and said I'd like a massage. He told me there was no sex in this place and pointed to a sign that said that, so I left. How's that for a first time? Anyway, as I was leaving the plaza, I noticed another one directly across Spring Mtn. with a big neon open sign. I went there and had my first AMP experience with the mamasan. I was hooked and began my quest to get more then HJ.

Of course, that was in a time where it was very difficult to find an AMP. Now, they are easier to find than free wireless internet.

-USTraveller

Guady1
05-24-05, 06:15
I made my last street monger last night. I am not really into sw's, I love AMP's but they have become hit or miss. I was reading the posts about apartment
hook-ups, I will look into those.

I met a bsw just north of the Strat. She was at the bus stop with some other people and I made eye contact. I drove up to the point where the road splits for downtown or the strip and decided that that was north enough for me and began to drive south back to the higher end casinos.

The bsw had walked off from the bus stop so I decided to turn around and try her. I was able to pick her up and we drove on Oakey from the blvd. There was a LE car stopped (lights flashing), he had stopped a wsw for something. I was a little nervous at this point.

All I wanted was a HJ and paid $40 for it. It was good but I hate doing it in the dark, I can't see the total package, only feel it.

I tried to find a copy of the Vegas Weekly (they have good articles as well) but it was so hot, I didn't want to drive all over town looking for one. They usually have them at my local library but they were out.

I will let you know how my new venture works out, I hope to find my niche' in mongering here, I hate to reach rock bottom and p/u sw's on the northern strip, its so risky.

Wastrel
05-24-05, 19:24
...I hate to reach rock bottom and p/u sw's on the northern strip, its so risky.I can reassure you that is nowhere near rock bottom. That would be me sweating up the windows with a ghetto babe from a vacant lot near the corner of Jackson and "D" Street, or Desert Dude at a roach motel off Ogden.

Desert Dude
05-25-05, 10:53
I can reassure you that is nowhere near rock bottom. That would be me sweating up the windows with a ghetto babe from a vacant lot near the corner of Jackson and "D" Street, or Desert Dude at a roach motel off Ogden.

Hey those were houseflies!!

Guady1
05-25-05, 14:44
I remembered you could get the las vegas weekly online but it doesn't have all of the ads and some where hard to read. I went to my pizza shop down the road and got a copy.

There isn't anything advertised that tells me she is working from an apartment so I will have to call several ads to see where they take me.

For me, rock bottom is Sahara and North, up to downtown. I don't even go there anymore (Downtown).

Nemo Smith
05-25-05, 19:15
I am coming to Vegas in mid June. Any info? I am staying on the strip, by the airport. Thanks.

Mike 80
05-27-05, 19:26
I am coming to Vegas in mid June. Any info? I am staying on the strip, by the airport. Thanks.

You've been on WSG for almost 3 yrs now, and you post something like that? Might as well have added a bullseye icon to your post. Let me be the first....

RTFF

Member #2051
05-28-05, 12:28
I was in LV earlier this month - first time in a couple of years - and based on previous experiences, I headed straight for Crazy Horse Too. In the past, this has been a great strip club with lots of mutual contact - even in the main club area.

However, this time I found it had tamed down quite a bit. In addition there was more than the usual sales pitch to "go to the back room". (I had done this in the past and didn't think it was worth the extra money - like a $23 Bud). I went back a couple of times during my stay (figuring it was an off night), but had pretty much the same disappointing experiences.

Just wondering what the deal is - have things changed in all the strip clubs, or is Crazy Horse just under extra scrutiny these days? The other places I've tried in the past was Olympic Gardens and it was okay, but not up to the Crazy Horse standards. I don't really follow the LV news - since I'm out of state - so there could be some stings going on.

Thanks for any insights on this. I may be going back next month and don't want to waste my money hoping for something that isn't going to happen.

Daijiro
05-28-05, 14:03
You've been on WSG for almost 3 yrs now, and you post something like that? Might as well have added a bullseye icon to your post. Let me be the first....

RTFFYou should have been told to ask the Cabbies to take him to a great place to get action. Like the Can Can Strip club. You Can get anything you Can there ;). Or if he really wants action go to that spa place, (I can't remember the name) it's on Industrial along a row of small retail shops. Just one block north of the Deja-Vu strip club.

Jesus even a loser member like me knows to scroll through the messages. Hey is there a way for me to get his senoir status. It's quit apparent that even as a Senior member, he still asks newbie questions.

JPF
05-29-05, 11:48
I didn't even know that the newspaper-reading public knew the term "outcall".

Really interesting article at http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/May-29-Sun-2005/news/26614701.html

In case the page goes away, here is some of the content:

Outcall services offer to send exotic dancers to hotel rooms, but authorities say they are nothing more than hustlers plying tourists with hookers.

"There are no legitimate outcall services," said Sheriff Bill Young, who commanded the Las Vegas police vice squad from 1989 to 1995. "They're all fronts for prostitution."

Although College Playmate Cuties, Nasty Girls, Wildblondes and dozens of other outcall businesses fill 115 pages in the Las Vegas phone book, not a single one of them is based within Las Vegas' city limits.

"I don't know that we've ever had an outcall service based in the city at all," said Jim DiFiore, the city's longtime business services manager.

So why would outcall entertainers forsake setting up shop in the region's largest city?

Because when outcall service owners do business under a county rather than a city license, they're operating in a jurisdiction where it's all but impossible to shut them down for misbehavior such as prostitution convictions.

"They're virtually unregulated in the county," Young said. "It's no more difficult to go in there and get a license to be an outcall dancer than it is be an American singing telegram girl."

Also, it is much harder for county officials to revoke or decline to renew a general business license than a privileged one, even when hookers posing as dancers are repeatedly caught in hotel room stings.

Of the 78 outcall service businesses currently licensed by the county, none held a county license before 1993.

Meanwhile, businesses seeking escort service licenses have disappeared.

Currently, not a single business in Clark County is licensed as an escort service.

After 12 years, county officials indicated last week that they are now exploring their legal options.

"The county recognizes that there is a propensity for these businesses to turn to illegal means, and we are researching ways to amend the code to not violate First Amendment rights," said Derek Dubasik, an assistant manager of business license operations for the county.

Meanwhile, police say they are doing their best to grapple with the hookers by performing hotel room stings, operations that don't have a great return on investment considering the cost to taxpayers.

"Ultimately, we get nothing out of it," Young said. "At the end of the day, you've got a handful of girls on misdemeanor arrests for which they're not going to spend any time in jail because there's no room. So it's a quick two-to-three hour trip from the time they get busted 'til they're back on the street."

Speck
05-29-05, 14:01
Yup, about 4-5 years ago, OG was outstanding. Lots of dancers that allowed HM or VHM including touching everywhere, feeding, and stick shift. No longer. The place is a total hustle joint. It's not event he fault of the owners. There were several police busts about a year or two ago. The attitude of the dancers has totally changed and the owners don't care because they are still packed every weekend.

Best I can now recommend for HM is Spearmint RHino. With the right dancer you might get touching and feeding. But it's very dark there, the music is very loud, and it's just not the place to go have some drinks with your buddies.


I was in LV earlier this month - first time in a couple of years - and based on previous experiences, I headed straight for Crazy Horse Too. In the past, this has been a great strip club with lots of mutual contact - even in the main club area.

However, this time I found it had tamed down quite a bit. In addition there was more than the usual sales pitch to "go to the back room". (I had done this in the past and didn't think it was worth the extra money - like a $23 Bud). I went back a couple of times during my stay (figuring it was an off night), but had pretty much the same disappointing experiences.

Just wondering what the deal is - have things changed in all the strip clubs, or is Crazy Horse just under extra scrutiny these days? The other places I've tried in the past was Olympic Gardens and it was okay, but not up to the Crazy Horse standards. I don't really follow the LV news - since I'm out of state - so there could be some stings going on.

Thanks for any insights on this. I may be going back next month and don't want to waste my money hoping for something that isn't going to happen.

Mass Hog
05-29-05, 14:39
[QUOTE=Guady1]I remembered you could get the las vegas weekly online but it doesn't have all of the ads and some where hard to read. I went to my pizza shop down the road and got a copy.

I find them (City Life) in 7-Elevens

Wastrel
05-29-05, 15:08
...and based on previous experiences, I headed straight for Crazy Horse Too...Just wondering what the deal is - have things changed in all the strip clubs, or is Crazy Horse just under extra scrutiny these days? The other places I've tried in the past was Olympic Gardens and it was okay, but not up to the Crazy Horse standards. I don't really follow the LV news - since I'm out of state - so there could be some stings going on...Well, here is a hint at why the action might be a little slow at CH2:

Tuesday, May 24, 2005

Rizzolo in a world of hurt -- and it's only going to get worse

The approach of summer finds Crazy Horse Too owner Rick Rizzolo continuing to fade in the heat of a federal criminal investigation and an increasingly testy civil lawsuit linked to alleged violence at his Industrial Road topless club.

If you think it's not tough to endure the daily pressure of criminal investigations from the FBI and IRS, think again. A fellow would have to be an iron man to not have it bother him. That's just one reason Rizzolo's attorneys have met in recent weeks to attempt to settle with the government before an expected indictment, when different rules apply.

Rizzolo has consistently maintained he and his employees are innocent of wrongdoing in the September 2001 incident involving Kansas tourist Kirk Henry, who suffered a broken neck outside the club.

Breaking down Rizzolo's problems isn't easy, but beyond the Henry lawsuit there's the specter of a crushing IRS case against him. In a cash-rich business, the temptation to underreport income is ever-present. A conviction on tax charges alone would knock his kingdom off its foundations.

The FBI case, said to involve alleged racketeering linked to a history of violence at the club, will be more difficult to prove, but would carry the weight of a 20-year sentence. Rizzolo is a high-rolling gambler, but no one wants to face those stakes.

Rizzolo likes to mix with controversial characters such as Rocky Lombardo (brother of Chicago mob boss Joey Lombardo) and reputed mob soldiers such as Vincent Faraci. Do that long enough, and someone is going to start thinking you're one of the boys...

Rest of the R-J column available at:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/May-24-Tue-2005/news/26581817.html

P.S. The "...incident involving (a) Kansas tourist...who suffered a broken neck..." began when he disputed what he believed to be bogus charges on his bar tab at the strip club. He says he was taken out back and beaten to a pulp by several goons employed there. Not the first or last time I’ve heard of that. The strip joint's explanation is that he was so drunk that he just fell down and hurt himself, and nobody there did nuthin, nosir, didn‘t see a thing, and didn‘t touch him. Hurt himself several times apparently, becuase he was found unconscious and left crippled for life.

Cienega32
05-29-05, 18:39
Crazy Horse Too - scrutiny ain't the word for it. Lots of legal problems with indictments and law suits. The tourist that had his neck broken there from a bouncer induced ass beating in 2001 put a lot of things in motion.

Shift bosses being indicted on racketeering and tax fraud, another one who's the son of a Bonanno capo "hiding", the Feds & IRS all over them, the "war" between owner Rizollo and competitor Gilardi (who cut a deal after admitting to political bribes), Rizollo's "friendship" with our mayor (former mob lawyer) & the trail of campaign contributions to judges and councilmen, the Feds dropping bugs all the over the joint. And then there's the fact that the Chi-town mob is going to get real tired of him in the news.

Pretty much anything happening there will be like a fart in church for the "legal noses". And if he does roll over for the Feds, a lot of things are going to happen in the political closet of Las Vegas.

Bubby
05-29-05, 23:43
I'm not a Las Vegas expert, and I always respectfully defer to mongers like Wastrel who give excellent, detailed, and accurate information.

I've been visiting Las Vegas for more years than I care to mention. I always hit up a variety of strip clubs, from the "corporate" Industrial Ave. types to the locals places like Larry's Villa. In my experience, the amount of action you get totally depends on: 1. the girl you choose and 2. how much heat is on that particular club.

No offense to Member 1591, but after giving the Can Can Room many chances over a 20 year period, it is pretty much a flat-out ripoff.

When I visit, I try to get as much up-to-date info as possible about which clubs are most likely to give a good time, and go from there. Crazy Horse II is obviously a place to avoid for the forseeable future.

I was in town last January, and had a couple of excellent experiences at Cheetahs with 2 different dancers. Things might have changed since then, however.

Also, you might be pleasantly surprised at how friendly the girls are during the day shift at some of these places . :)

Daijiro
05-30-05, 16:29
No offense to Member 1591, but after giving the Can Can Room many chances over a 20 year period, it is pretty much a flat-out ripoff.I was just kidding about the information. As it's well reported in the forum.

A newbie question should be given a newbie answer especially from a senior member.

Even though I am a regular member, I know not to ask newbie questions. Granted I would post more often and become a senior member, but most of the time the information I have has already been reported, or just common knowledge.

I think becoming a senior member should also be based on the quality of posts you have not, by just shear number of posts.

Megai
05-31-05, 06:36
Guys,

Go here: http://www.stevemiller4lasvegas.com/RickRizzolo.html to read all about these italian mobs. STOP GOING TO "CRAZY HORSE TOO". Don't give your money to these scumbags. Why is it too hard to break into these italian scumbags heads that Italian Mafia is not running America? I just can't wait for the day that a ripped-off-customers come back to the place and shoot it up!

localbozo
05-31-05, 11:00
You should have been told to ask the Cabbies to take him to a great place to get action. Like the Can Can Strip club. You Can get anything you Can there ;). Or if he really wants action go to that spa place, (I can't remember the name) it's on Industrial along a row of small retail shops. Just one block north of the Deja-Vu strip club.

Jesus even a loser member like me knows to scroll through the messages. Hey is there a way for me to get his senoir status. It's quit apparent that even as a Senior member, he still asks newbie questions.


No matter how "newbie" a question is or how someone has the nerve to ask questions whose answers are right in front of their face, under no circumstances should anyone consider giving information to support a rip off establishment. These places, like the Can Can and the ripoff spa on Industrial need to be destroyed. I would love to hear that they were vandalized beyond recognition. If they don't get any business, they will go under.

As far as the strip clubs are concerned, Bubby pretty much hit the nail on the head; I also had a good experience at Cheetas, but it was some time ago. Day shift tends to be slow, so you might get a good deal. A lot of these places like CH2 and Jaguars are under the microscope. They have been busted by undercovers and I think a lot of other places are learning real fast. There are definately better options than strip clubs, depending what you want. Hey, RTFF!!! (lol)

LB

Cienega32
05-31-05, 11:37
Guys,

Go here: http://www.stevemiller4lasvegas.com/RickRizzolo.html to read all about these italian mobs. STOP GOING TO "CRAZY HORSE TOO". Don't give your money to these scumbags. Why is it too hard to break into these italian scumbags heads that Italian Mafia is not running America? I just can't wait for the day that a ripped-off-customers come back to the place and shoot it up!

Nooo - they may not be running America but they do run these 5 & dime strip clubs in Vegas and, more or less, built Vegas to what it is today. Them & the Jewish mob. In fact, nowadays, the Israeli mob is more of a problem.

How about we don't patronize Vegas in order to protest the fact that our mayor used to, back in the day, defend "these italian scumbags" after they would get indicted?

The old timers pretty much traded off the Stardust for the tittie joints & street rackets. The Israeli mob, who specs in X & the nite-club scene, is wanting a piece of that pie.

The town was a lot better off when the "old" mob ran the joint. It's all still mob - they just have different "day jobs" now. Which side of the fence that "the power" sits on is cyclical in nature. The problem with the idiots at CH2 is they think like Spilatro did. Didn't work out too good for him, now did it...

And, as it was in his case, you don't see the family coming to the CH2 people's rescue, do you?

Sticks
05-31-05, 20:57
Really good advice on amp style from tropic tourist 4-16 post. I am gonna have to try this back home not only in vegas.

IndyDave
05-31-05, 21:13
Not to dispute anything said so far, but as I noted in a previous post, because of the goon squad stories, I stay the hell out of any big-name nudies or "strip" clubs. Man, I'd love to see old style Vaudeville strip, done with class, but I guess that's gone forever.

To me, it doesn't matter which set of goons are running these clubs, the guys who go there are putting themselves at great risk to spend a helluva lot of money to maybe get a sniff of naked kitty...the operators will get the message when people stop going. Doesn't matter which set of goons, they understand revenue is required to keep the places open.

Interesting note about LV...conventioneers frequent the clubs, but don't gamble...so the casinos, I read, want to bring those guys back into their properties. How to do is the problem...how to keep the guys there, give them what they want to see without offending the women, from which the casinos are said to get 60% of theirm gambling win. Interesting

localbozo
06-01-05, 08:30
[QUOTE=Cienega32]
How about we don't patronize Vegas in order to protest the fact that our mayor used to, back in the day, defend "these italian scumbags" after they would get indicted?


Good luck not patronizing Vegas. Besides, the mob in Vegas is small potatoes now. Welcome to corporate America. I do agree though, the town was run much better when it was in mob control.

Cienega32
06-01-05, 10:51
How about we don't patronize Vegas in order to protest the fact that our mayor used to, back in the day, defend "these italian scumbags" after they would get indicted?


Good luck not patronizing Vegas. Besides, the mob in Vegas is small potatoes now. Welcome to corporate America. I do agree though, the town was run much better when it was in mob control.You do know that I was being "tongue-in-cheek" to Megai, who seems to think that only the one strip club is run by, what he terms "these italian scumbags". He seems to think that by not spending at the CH2 will make a difference. Most of the strip joints fall under "street rackets" in this town. It's easy money that's had by greasing the wheels.

There's still one or two gaming joints still under control but not like the old days. Believe it or not, the KC crowd is still active here. The paper trails have to be a lot cleaner now - pure, actually. "The mob" used to be one or the other - either the Italian or the Jewish flavor. Now we're getting a little more international and they lean to the lesser famously tourist-fed areas (casinos).

The Israeli (not the Jewish flavor) mob isn't really "small potatoes" by today's standards - they're just not in the papers as much being they don't skim millions, blow up cars and leave people in corn fields. They're more techno-orientated. They will be in the papers when they start trying to weasel more of the street rackets their way from Chi-town.

The CH2 ring is burning their juice with this broken neck deal. They would've had it made after their competition was stung by the G-sting farce if not for that. Those two things will make it an open market for the Izzies and they'll move up from the nite club/Ecstacy scene that they control.

Megai
06-01-05, 13:47
Guys,

I didn't mean to start a mouth war here, but the goons in CH2 probably have been watching too much "SOPRANOS" on TV. Guess what. Strip clubs around the country are runinng by mobs too. Do you see they beat up their customers or kill a human being for some lousy dou? Atleast the mobs where I live (Los Angeles) will try to settle the bills with customer. Ask him how much he want to pay then ban him forever from the club. If some drunken customer try to start a fight. The LA goons will let the cops handle it. This is not Al-Capone time anymore. Lucky them not to beat up any of my friends or myself because, guess what? I will come back and shoot the place up myself!

Cienega32
06-02-05, 00:27
Not to dispute anything said so far, but as I noted in a previous post, because of the goon squad stories, I stay the hell out of any big-name nudies or "strip" clubs. Man, I'd love to see old style Vaudeville strip, done with class, but I guess that's gone forever.

To me, it doesn't matter which set of goons are running these clubs, the guys who go there are putting themselves at great risk to spend a helluva lot of money to maybe get a sniff of naked kitty...the operators will get the message when people stop going. Doesn't matter which set of goons, they understand revenue is required to keep the places open.

Interesting note about LV...conventioneers frequent the clubs, but don't gamble...so the casinos, I read, want to bring those guys back into their properties. How to do is the problem...how to keep the guys there, give them what they want to see without offending the women, from which the casinos are said to get 60% of theirm gambling win. Interesting
I pretty much stopped hitting the strip joints out here after the big push to shine with the "Gentlemen's Club" aspect years ago and started ripping the monger with the prices. Waste of time, in my eyes. Hell - I've got cable. I can see puss when I want ;). It never made much sense to me to pay some broad in hopes that she might do something that will make me want to spend even more money to maybe do something that could've been done cheaper & quicker "somewhere else".

I like the old local type joints. Haven't been to the Centerfold since there were a couple of other joints in that area.

There are a few conventions that are decent for gaming but I'll tell you this: MAGIC (men's apparel group) & the damn shoe convention are the two cheapest bunch of people that come here. The tittie joints love them but no one else does - including the cabbies. They're the bunch that will run a $19.75 cab tab en route to the tittie joints and 5 of them will be generous enough to say "Keep the change". But they fill the hotels.

Travel Guy
06-02-05, 08:46
Does anyone know if Tally Ho is still open? I was there a few years back and got good miliage.

localbozo
06-02-05, 09:24
There are 4 conventions that truly stink up the town. As Cienega mentioned MAGIC is one. Comdex (while dying each year) is probably amongst the worst, and the one never talked about is Surplus. These are the people who own dollar stores (what do you expect). And last but certainly not least, is whatever fricken convention it is that brings pawn brokers to town. These are the absolute scum of the earth flea bag cheap skates of all. They all wear Rolex watches that they paid some moron $50 for. They are rip off artists, no doubt, but there are idiots out there that let them be.

There was a comment once made about Comdex people:

they bring a white shirt, a $20 bill, and they don't change either one.

LB

Cienega32
06-02-05, 15:21
Guys,

I didn't mean to start a mouth war here, but the goons in CH2 probably have been watching too much "SOPRANOS" on TV. Guess what. Strip clubs around the country are runinng by mobs too. Do you see they beat up their customers or kill a human being for some lousy dou? Atleast the mobs where I live (Los Angeles) will try to settle the bills with customer. Ask him how much he want to pay then ban him forever from the club. If some drunken customer try to start a fight. The LA goons will let the cops handle it. This is not Al-Capone time anymore. Lucky them not to beat up any of my friends or myself because, guess what? I will come back and shoot the place up myself!No - there's no "mouth war" here. Just an interesting discussion.

That's what I meant by CH2 having a Spilatro philosophy. He couldn't grasp the concept of smooth finesse either. That's why he ended up in a corn field. Them watching too much Sopranos makes me wonder if you're aware of how deep the CH2 ties to the Bonnano family really are. These are the families that shows like the Sopranos are based upon.

If you want a good idea of Spilatro's finesse watch Joe Pesci in Casino. He plays Spilatro. The problems he made are similar to the ones that the CH2 crowd are making. Just a bit too loud when "people" were listening. But, back then, they were trying to hold on to a good thing. What these clowns are doing now is pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

LA, just like Vegas and a few other "used to be" cities, are just peripheral activities for them. There's bigger things to worry about for them with all the "look-see" at the air cargo, stock market & telecomm industries by the feds.

Cienega32
06-02-05, 15:38
Does anyone know if Tally Ho is still open? I was there a few years back and got good miliage.
I think Snowden sold it a couple of years ago and it's Sherri's Cabaret now. I think...

I sniffed around a bit and yes - it's Sheri's Cabaret now. Same folks from Sheri's Ranch in Pahrump.

www.sheriscabaret.com

Peter Dong
06-02-05, 20:12
I went to Vegas and a cab driver took me to Sensations.

I got ripped off of 350$ and had to leave as I was disgusted at their attitude.

IndyDave
06-02-05, 20:46
I was in there once, many moons ago, when it was some guy's name and Tally Ho was only place they gave me my change in two-dollar bills. Pretty much sets the minimum for the dancers' tips, doesn't it? I didn't stay long and I didn't go back, but for classy nudes and quality of dancing, anybody think it's worth a short visit?

IndyDave
06-02-05, 20:59
So, what's the real story on legal brothels?

I enjoy my drives through the various parts of Nye County when I'm visiting LV (like out through Blue Diamond to Mercury area, back down 95. Nice break from the casinos and the LV traffic) and I see a few of the "sporting houses" along the way... I've watched shows on the various TV channels which suggest that the 'average' tab at various establishments is $350. Other shows suggest that the average tab is $1500, which would seem to imply an endless stream of mongers with more money and more libido than brains. However, what's the real scoop? How many $ for the average half-and-half, and are the women actually the really-good-looking eager beavers the TV shows imply? By the way, I won't consider an answer to be admission that you have actually frequented an establishment, nor will I conclude that you fall into the monger description above. LOL

Mc Hawker
06-03-05, 02:50
I was at Shari's on Monday. They are doing a large addition. Soon they will be a "gentleman's club instead of a strip joint. It was a nice time but very low mileage. They had 3 girls working at noon, one big tit blond, one so-so black girl and one who was not feeling well and hiding in the back.

I got a few dances from blondie. It was a good full body dance but nothin extra. She claims the place is full of cameras to keep the girls inline. That is bull shit but I was not sure she knew it was.

More may be available but I did not have the time or money to find out.


I think Snowden sold it a couple of years ago and it's Sherri's Cabaret now. I think.

I sniffed around a bit and yes - it's Sheri's Cabaret now. Same folks from Sheri's Ranch in Pahrump.

www. sheriscabaret. com

Cienega32
06-03-05, 21:37
I was at Shari's on Monday. They are doing a large addition. Soon they will be a "gentleman's club instead of a strip joint. It was a nice time but very low mileage. They had 3 girls working at noon, one big tit blond, one so-so black girl and one who was not feeling well and hiding in the back.

I got a few dances from blondie. It was a good full body dance but nothin extra. She claims the place is full of cameras to keep the girls inline. That is bull shit but I was not sure she knew it was.

More may be available but I did not have the time or money to find out.
It might not be all BS being they're the same folks who run the brothel. Having the strip joint as Vegas "front/extension" could give them big problems. And some joints do have cams in the back rooms "for protection".

Then again, they could've just told the girls that to get them thinking.

Then again they could just be telling mongers that to get them to stop thinking ;).

Myself, once they go to the "gentlemen's club" motif I lose interest. Girlie glam and wallet slams.

Wastrel
06-03-05, 22:03
I went to Vegas and a cab driver took me...I think it would be a useful public service to repost every week: "Repeat after me, I will not listen to a Vegas cab driver when his lips are moving; I will NOT..."

Wonder if it would make sense to have a Las Vegas thread 'specially dedicated to "Clip-joints and scams" for education of our precious visitors and entertainment of locals?

Geeko
06-03-05, 23:53
I visted a few years back when it was Rick's Tally Ho and I got f/s in the fox's den or whatever they called the private booth/lap dance room with the curtains. I was not expecting that but it was good - even got a cell phone number from the gal to give her a call for "room service" in my hotel room. I never did call for that and ended up losing the number.

I visited again this past November as it was Shari's by then and they still had those private room things but from talking with the dancers it didn't sound like f/s was available - maybe I wasn't talking to the right girls or they have changed since the change in ownership.

Anyone know if extras are still available?

Muggs
06-04-05, 01:10
On Boulder Hwy.

The ladies with gambling problems can be had here. I've met a few and had fun. Now once they are out of money....they usually decide to walk down to Arizona Charlies. On Route...they try to make more gambling money.

I met serena last Saturday. Scooped her up on Boulder leaving Dannys. Great CBJ for $25. Dropped her off at...you guessed it... Arizona Charlies. I decided to walk in and check my hypothesis....she walked in fast and immediately put the money in a slot.

Wastrel
06-04-05, 05:22
Back in April sometime a monger asked about cheap golf to go with his plans for Vegas debauchery. Have I got a deal for you.

While exploring more of the north end of town on Craig Road out several miles west from LV Blvd, across the 15 freeway and almost to Martin L King Blvd, I saw a sign on the north side of Craig which said: "Golf $19, 628 W Craig." That's all it said, and I've only been by there at night, so I have no idea what it really looks like. For that price I don't imagine they give you little carts to putt around in like you wanted, but with the money you'd save I'd think you could hire a couple of underemployed ladies from in front of the Four Aces or thereabouts to manually handle your equipment as you nail those holes.

Cienega32
06-04-05, 16:24
Back in April sometime a monger asked about cheap golf to go with his plans for Vegas debauchery. Have I got a deal for you.

While exploring more of the north end of town on Craig Road out several miles west from LV Blvd, across the 15 freeway and almost to Martin L King Blvd, I saw a sign on the north side of Craig which said: "Golf $19, 628 W Craig." That's all it said, and I've only been by there at night, so I have no idea what it really looks like. For that price I don't imagine they give you little carts to putt around in like you wanted, but with the money you'd save I'd think you could hire a couple of underemployed ladies from in front of the Four Aces or thereabouts to manually handle your equipment as you nail those holes.
But think of how long the day would be having your balls washed after every hole...