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whocaresIdo
09-15-05, 21:55
Man, WhoCaresIDo sure is putting up a fight to protect Maggie. Could it be that WhoCaresIDo is Maggie? She certainly has been known to do things like this before. Isn't that right Maggie er I mean Tara er I mean WhoCaresIDo.We have become friends and why you care maybe you sure take the time to meet her.

Old Moman
09-16-05, 14:05
It's been awhile since I visited Time Out Massage in Kirkwood. I was very pleased with the staff, most are in the 7-8 category. You may not be able to get extras on your first visit. Don't give up, the extras offered are worth the wait.

Happy Hunting

Old Moman

Old Moman
09-16-05, 14:09
I've tried numerous times to contact Maggie via E-Mail. I've had questions concerning availabilty and making appointments. All I've received in response is her web site address. I'm giving up on this one. Does not seem to interested in communicating.

Bill Bradsky
09-20-05, 14:48
This place has several massueses on staff and is located in Clayton. The fee is 60 for one hour and the massage I had was good. Things ended happily so I had no real complaints.

BB

Member #2002
09-24-05, 15:22
Is she working in ST Louis again?

brwnilvr
09-25-05, 08:53
Not sure where to put this since we don't have a spot for Missouri. I am pretty sure most of you guys also check out the Craig's List. Found these two Keepers there one calls herself the Head Doctor the other is a young 19yr old named Jasmine, both are black. Head Doctor is in her mid twenties, thick with small breasts but very anxious to please has a great ass. 19yr old is thin and very new in the game she was nervous but anxious to please and a great kisser. Sorry no websites or phone numbers have to email them at [Email Address deleted by Admin] the addy is for both. Good luck and happy hunting.

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Bonerfide
09-26-05, 18:40
I have been a regular customer of Molly and although she is attractive and gives an excellent massage boredom has set in. It also is annoying to listen to her family problems. I have tried Debbie who would be nice if she were more attractive. Linda in Imperial gives an excellent massage but rushes and is mechanical on her endings and is average in looks. I have tried to hook up with Gina a couple of times but she seems to always have a full schedule. So far the hunt has not been succesful to find a regular provider.

Alex P Keaton
09-26-05, 22:40
Not sure where to put this since we don't have a spot for Missouri. I am pretty sure most of you guys also check out the Craig's List.

There is actually a Missouri Craigslist section on usasexguide.info, it just doesn't have a direct link like the other states do. First click Craigslist Reviews, then click Missouri, then click St. Louis.

He So Horney
09-27-05, 08:22
Here are some leads I haven't been able to explore yet that maybe one of you will try and report back to us:

Saw these on Craigslist and made initial contact with them. I will send you email addresses, some phone numbers included, if you pm me. Don't know anything else about them because I haven't seen them yet.

TODAY IS A SPECIAL DAY.
TaKE A LOAD OFF AND COME GET RELAXED WITH THE SOFT TOUCH
OF THIS CARRIBEAN GODDESS. THE SPECIAL IS 50/HOUR.

She emailed me that the massage includes a hj. Then she suggested if I wanted more to email a friend of hers that does everything for $75. She referred to her as the cuban goddess and said they work out of the same place.

Lidd giafalo wrote:

here is my pic its 50.00 for massage and a hand job or 100 for a
massage and a titty fuck (see picture attached below)

Someone called AJ offers $100 for head, $75 for hj.

He So Horney
09-27-05, 08:30
I have seen Sharon twice since she moved to a new location. Both times I was very pleased. I asked her to do a light touch massage and her use of her fingernails on my sensitive areas was incredible.

She is a really nice lady, who I have no reservations what so ever of recommending to everyone who is seeking a bargain priced massage with Happy Ending.

He So Horney

Bill Bradsky
09-27-05, 16:52
Here's yet another massues located just off 270 that quotes 70 but discounts 20 if you have never seen her. She will make things happy but tries to upsell it after you're wound up for whatever she can get. She is in the RFT.
314-895-1xxx

monger on,

BB

Bill Bradsky
09-27-05, 23:20
I have been a regular customer of Molly and although she is attractive and gives an excellent massage boredom has set in. It also is annoying to listen to her family problems. I have tried Debbie who would be nice if she were more attractive. Linda in Imperial gives an excellent massage but rushes and is mechanical on her endings and is average in looks. I have tried to hook up with Gina a couple of times but she seems to always have a full schedule. So far the hunt has not been succesful to find a regular provider.

Bonerfide-

I hear you on this. It is getting pretty boring and the quality is lacking here.

I wish we had some of the talent that seems to be in Dallas. Check out the sister publication of the RFT there. It is called the "Observer" and there is a lot to observe. You can get to it right from the RFT site.

The massage ads and body rub ads often have a photo of the massues. That is a big help. Way better than what we are seeing.

Sample ad:

http://dallas.backpage.com/adult/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=oid%3A115372&name=body%20rubs

I would go for the $ massage from this lady. Maybe we should get a bus together.

Monger on (In Dallas?),

BB

Blue Sterling
09-28-05, 11:17
Bonerfide-

I hear you on this. It is getting pretty boring and the quality is lacking here.

I wish we had some of the talent that seems to be in Dallas. Check out the sister publication of the RFT there. It is called the "Observer" and there is a lot to observe. You can get to it right from the RFT site.

The massage ads and body rub ads often have a photo of the massues. That is a big help. Way better than what we are seeing.

Sample ad:

http://dallas.backpage.com/adult/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=oid%3A115372&name=body%20rubs

I would go for the $ massage from this lady. Maybe we should get a bus together.

Monger on (In Dallas?),

BB

Southwest flies to Dallas every day for $99 round-trip..... Hell, I have the AA frequent flier miles to get there for $0.... I think we need a field trip.

whocaresIdo
09-28-05, 14:23
We have some of the finest ladies here in town, if you treated them right you would have no trouble seeing some of them. I understand we all want something for nothing. Just remember we can't use Street Walkers because of city police. I know I don't want a postcard from them. So maybe we need to take a second look at the ladies here.

Bill Bradsky
09-28-05, 22:38
Here are some leads I haven't been able to explore yet that maybe one of you will try and report back to us:

Saw these on Craigslist and made initial contact with them. I will send you email addresses, some phone numbers included, if you pm me. Don't know anything else about them because I haven't seen them yet.

TODAY IS A SPECIAL DAY.
TaKE A LOAD OFF AND COME GET RELAXED WITH THE SOFT TOUCH
OF THIS CARRIBEAN GODDESS. THE SPECIAL IS 50/HOUR.

She emailed me that the massage includes a hj. Then she suggested if I wanted more to email a friend of hers that does everything for $75. She referred to her as the cuban goddess and said they work out of the same place.

Lidd giafalo wrote:

here is my pic its 50.00 for massage and a hand job or 100 for a
massage and a titty fuck (see picture attached below)

Someone called AJ offers $100 for head, $75 for hj.

HeSo-

I saw that AJ ad on CL but did not pursue it because Gina provides the same thing for 40. Granted, she is goofy and hard to get ahold of but I suspect the main difference is $60.

monger on,

BB

Blue Sterling
09-29-05, 09:37
We have some of the finest ladies here in town, if you treated them right you would have no trouble seeing some of them. I understand we all want something for nothing. Just remember we can't use Street Walkers because of city police. I know I don't want a postcard from them. So maybe we need to take a second look at the ladies here.

1. I don't think you will have a problem with getting a postcard from the city police, for obvious reasons.

2. How would you know how I treat ladies? I mean you are in fact a client and not a disgruntled service provider, right? So, you truly would have no idea how I am with service providers. I have only had 1 negative experience in a the hobby in a number of years. YMMV?

3. There are some absolutely amazing service providers in St. Louis. I am big fan of many of them. I have no doubt that many people will be taking a second look at many of them, so thank you for your great suggestion. With that in mind I encourage everyone to just RTFF. It is a great research tool.

whocaresIdo
09-29-05, 10:46
1. I don't think you will have a problem with getting a postcard from the city police, for obvious reasons.

2. How would you know how I treat ladies? I mean you are in fact a client and not a disgruntled service provider, right? So, you truly would have no idea how I am with service providers. I have only had 1 negative experience in a the hobby in a number of years. YMMV?

3. There are some absolutely amazing service providers in St. Louis. I am big fan of many of them. I have no doubt that many people will be taking a second look at many of them, so thank you for your great suggestion. With that in mind I encourage everyone to just RTFF. It is a great research tool.I just go by what you write,but you can only post so much about one person and that gets old.And do you mean the RFT? Do you know and good ones?

KC Questor
09-30-05, 00:26
And do you mean the RFT?

RTFF = Read The Fine Forum

or something like that

melowdowneasy
09-30-05, 01:01
Only in town till friday afternoon goin slow for her so shes gonna leave. This girls a needle in a haystack for old st lou. 19 yr old!

Pros:

19 yrs old fantastic body fantastic 34d lfk,daty, miss,cowgirl,asian cowgirl,doggie,froggy doggie,back to miss and a near heart attack lol $$ good deal for a solid gfe!

Cons:

CBJ- 1 shot on goal

I cant think of any this 1's really fine wish she lived here!

Posted thursday morning under " model type 19yrs old" shes stayin close to Arnold.

I loved that guys Eddy story, man did he get burned!

whocaresIdo
09-30-05, 02:28
RTFF = Read The Fine Forum

or something like thatWhat is that?

Looking Around
09-30-05, 08:50
RTFF = Read The Fine Forum

or something like that

See the abbreviations at http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1897.

ClitCommander
10-01-05, 03:33
Only in town till friday afternoon goin slow for her so shes gonna leave. This girls a needle in a haystack for old st lou. 19 yr old!

Pros:

19 yrs old fantastic body fantastic 34d lfk,daty, miss,cowgirl,asian cowgirl,doggie,froggy doggie,back to miss and a near heart attack lol $$ good deal for a solid gfe!

Cons:

CBJ- 1 shot on goal

I cant think of any this 1's really fine wish she lived here!

Posted thursday morning under " model type 19yrs old" shes stayin close to Arnold.

I loved that guys Eddy story, man did he get burned!

Who are you kidding? You pasted this pic from some magazine. Nice try dude!

Chicagomax
10-01-05, 16:05
My buddy called me this moring and said he had two numbers for Madison that he has called and left messages on but he has not gotten called back yet. These numbers are for her cell in Denver and St Louis. They still work but all he gets is an answering machine.

If anyone ants them email me and I will give them to you

melowdowneasy
10-01-05, 18:29
Who are you kidding? You pasted this pic from some magazine. Nice try dude!I'm posting reports for my brothers in the hobby in my town,not for some blow hard going thru the photo section.

Shes still here and shes movin around,posts that she is available then takes the ad down and moves again. If shes still here next week I might see her again! I have not seen a girl 2 times but I might this time she is that sweet and that good!!!!! Heres a photo that see posted last night before see took the ad down this morning. Shows those fantastic 34d's!!!!

Bonerfide
10-01-05, 21:17
That ad with that picture is on stlouis.craigslist. I don't know if it is a legit ad or not. I have been perusing the CL ads lately. Has anybody tried out an Isabella in St Charles? She says she specializes in french and greek and allows two shots in a session.

melowdowneasy
10-01-05, 23:18
That ad with that picture is on stlouis.craigslist. I don't know if it is a legit ad or not. I have been perusing the CL ads lately. Has anybody tried out an Isabella in St Charles? She says she specializes in french and greek and allows two shots in a session.I posted a report on the CL review section on Isabella a couple weeks ago.

Go down a couple posts and you will see that girl is legit. Called her tonight and she said she is leaving town Sunday.(Victoria) Best part was she was staying 3 miles from me. Said she was leaving town but she just moved up around the airport. I wish more girls like her would come thru more often so I could go broke faster.lol Fantastic bod for the price!!! $$

There a a few sw looking girls on the cl posting everyday wanting good provider rates.$$ and a half thats crazy. This may happen more in the future as the streets get tighter.

melowdowneasy
10-02-05, 20:48
That ad with that picture is on stlouis.craigslist. I don't know if it is a legit ad or not. I have been perusing the CL ads lately. Has anybody tried out an Isabella in St Charles? She says she specializes in french and greek and allows two shots in a session.Look at post 234.

Elvis Lives
10-03-05, 08:22
Just breezing through the photos and saw this picture of Victoria. Interesting, I think this same girl was on the Atlanta board, one of you might want to check that out. Seems unlikely that she moved around so much.

Bill Bradsky
10-03-05, 15:30
I made an effort to contact Victoria when the ad first appeared and got no response.

A check of the Atlanta 404 review site showed only one "Victoria" and she was a Black lady.

Ads appearing in multiple cities at the same time are often just spam.

Monger on,

BB

melowdowneasy
10-03-05, 16:39
I made an effort to contact Victoria when the ad first appeared and got no response.

A check of the Atlanta 404 review site showed only one "Victoria" and she was a Black lady.

Ads appearing in multiple cities at the same time are often just spam.

Monger on,

BBShe was here. I saw her. Also called her sat evening and she left sun morning. I'm fairly new to the hobby,but you guys are a paranoid lot. And I'm sure for good reason. There is not much going on the cl here,but so far I have not seen a fake ad yet! May give another report this week.

RandyRider
10-05-05, 15:02
I saw Victoria in Arnold. She's 19, about 5'9" and 120. the pics were real - - she's a gorgoeus girl and well worth the price. She may be back as she was visiting some friends who just relocated here.

On another topic, someone suggested Time Out in Kirkwood...any particular masseuse to recommend there?

Stay Alert
10-07-05, 18:29
I have been using craigslist now meeting up with quite a few chicks and scoring freebies. I posted an ad saying I was a sugardaddy (got the idea from max) and met a couple of chicks off there. Banged them real good, and never gave them anything. Found another chick looking for a job as a sexretary as she called it. Blew a big cumload in her mouth, while pretending I was going to hire her. Left and gave her nothing. Try it guys, it works.

melowdowneasy
10-07-05, 19:48
This girl has 2 horrible reviews on the ter. Comes down to a chj with her semi nude for $$$.

melowdowneasy
10-07-05, 21:23
Anyone seen this lady?

Old DickI have 2 years ago. Used to be Amie and then Madilyn. Was my first provider experience. She is a huge,huge ymmv. Her ass is a solid 9.7! pm me if you want.

mystikal10
10-08-05, 15:48
Anyone recommend Time Out Massage? Are they good, what can I get?

Lycurgus
10-10-05, 19:22
I don't think Ashlee on Eros is Amie/Madilyn, although she used to be an Ashley. She appears to have had all her reviews and listings on the review sites taken down. Maybe she retired. Too bad. When she was in the mood, there was none better.

melowdowneasy
10-11-05, 20:13
I don't think Ashlee on Eros is Amie/Madilyn, although she used to be an Ashley. She appears to have had all her reviews and listings on the review sites taken down. Maybe she retired. Too bad. When she was in the mood, there was none better.Its the same girl.

Lycurgus
10-11-05, 22:22
Well gentlemen that is good news. I've seen this girl a lot. Backchannel me for info. In the meantime, I am planning a road trip to St. Louis.

Lycurgus
10-11-05, 22:25
I forgot to add, she has changed her name, website, e-mail, etc. before and it was usually because her attitude was making her business disappear. This girl is really still a teenager and can be self-centered, demanding, and hard to get along with. However, when she surfaces again with a new identity she usually provides top notch, grab the sheets and get your world rocked service.

TylerDurden01
10-13-05, 09:03
I was wondering if anyone on here has seen the woman that advertises on CL and claims to be in Soulard. She quoted $.2 in her add which seemed low given her pics. ANy info would be appreciated

Chicagomax
10-15-05, 11:12
I decided last night to get a hotel room and try out some of the women on Craigslist. Man oh man were there some ugly looking women on there until I ran across this add.

"HI I AM MARIAH AND I WILL BE AVAILABLE ALL NIGHT LONG FOR OUTCALLS ONLY. MY DONATION IS $200 FOR HALF $300 FOR AN HR. 3-1-4-5-7-0-4-3-5-9 NO BLOCKED CALLS PLEASE. "

Her picture looked good but she wanted 300 for an hour and there was no way but I called her anyway. She is a student and lives in U-cty and is short on cash. I had her come up but I tried a new technique a buddy of mine has used. I sent her to an empty room next door to mine at the hotel.

It is now midnight and she had to drive about 30 minutes to get to me. She knocks on the door next door as I watch through the eyehole in the door. She keeps knocking and of course no one answers and I can see she is getting pissed. SO I go to the door and ask her if I can help her. She says she is looking for the guy in that room. I tell her that I know him cause we are in town on business but he just left with some of our friends to go to the strip joints across the river. She looks pissed and like she is about to cry.

I asked her if she was a working girl and she said she had a date with him and had driven almost 30 minutes to get here. I told her that that really sucked but maybe I could make it worth the trip for her. She comes in and she finally agress to 150 for an hour cause that is all I have.

She is cute as hell and very very fresh. She wore a nice summer dress and had a nice face and small b cup boobs but hey she looked liked a young college student as was about 19. She looked great naked and had no problems rtaking off her clothes. She gave very energetic head and looked mad when I threw on a cover to do her.

She spent the whole hour taking care of me and I had to do very little work. She got me off twice and was very vocal whein I was ramming her from behind, Here is her pic and maybe someone else can have some fun with her as well.

Keep in mind that this technique of getting reduced rates does not work with the expereinced escort...I tried it last week with my local favorite and she told me to piss off....lol..

whocaresIdo
10-15-05, 13:30
I decided last night to get a hotel room and try out some of the women on Craigslist. Man oh man were there some ugly looking women on there until I ran across this add.

"HI I AM MARIAH AND I WILL BE AVAILABLE ALL NIGHT LONG FOR OUTCALLS ONLY. MY DONATION IS $200 FOR HALF $300 FOR AN HR. 3-1-4-5-7-0-4-3-5-9 NO BLOCKED CALLS PLEASE. "

Her picture looked good but she wanted 300 for an hour and there was no way but I called her anyway. She is a student and lives in U-cty and is short on cash. I had her come up but I tried a new technique a buddy of mine has used. I sent her to an empty room next door to mine at the hotel.

It is now midnight and she had to drive about 30 minutes to get to me. She knocks on the door next door as I watch through the eyehole in the door. She keeps knocking and of course no one answers and I can see she is getting pissed. SO I go to the door and ask her if I can help her. She says she is looking for the guy in that room. I tell her that I know him cause we are in town on business but he just left with some of our friends to go to the strip joints across the river. She looks pissed and like she is about to cry.

I asked her if she was a working girl and she said she had a date with him and had driven almost 30 minutes to get here. I told her that that really sucked but maybe I could make it worth the trip for her. She comes in and she finally agress to 150 for an hour cause that is all I have.

She is cute as hell and very very fresh. She wore a nice summer dress and had a nice face and small b cup boobs but hey she looked liked a young college student as was about 19. She looked great naked and had no problems rtaking off her clothes. She gave very energetic head and looked mad when I threw on a cover to do her.

She spent the whole hour taking care of me and I had to do very little work. She got me off twice and was very vocal whein I was ramming her from behind, Here is her pic and maybe someone else can have some fun with her as well.

Keep in mind that this technique of getting reduced rates does not work with the expereinced escort...I tried it last week with my local favorite and she told me to piss off....lol..You give the rest of us a bad name.

Fred Reed
10-15-05, 15:36
I decided last night to get a hotel room and try out some of the women on Craigslist. Man oh man were there some ugly looking women on there until I ran across this add.

"HI I AM MARIAH AND I WILL BE AVAILABLE ALL NIGHT LONG FOR OUTCALLS ONLY. MY DONATION IS $200 FOR HALF $300 FOR AN HR. 3-1-4-5-7-0-4-3-5-9 NO BLOCKED CALLS PLEASE. "

Her picture looked good but she wanted 300 for an hour and there was no way but I called her anyway. She is a student and lives in U-cty and is short on cash. I had her come up but I tried a new technique a buddy of mine has used. I sent her to an empty room next door to mine at the hotel.

It is now midnight and she had to drive about 30 minutes to get to me. She knocks on the door next door as I watch through the eyehole in the door. She keeps knocking and of course no one answers and I can see she is getting pissed. SO I go to the door and ask her if I can help her. She says she is looking for the guy in that room. I tell her that I know him cause we are in town on business but he just left with some of our friends to go to the strip joints across the river. She looks pissed and like she is about to cry.

I asked her if she was a working girl and she said she had a date with him and had driven almost 30 minutes to get here. I told her that that really sucked but maybe I could make it worth the trip for her. She comes in and she finally agress to 150 for an hour cause that is all I have.

She is cute as hell and very very fresh. She wore a nice summer dress and had a nice face and small b cup boobs but hey she looked liked a young college student as was about 19. She looked great naked and had no problems rtaking off her clothes. She gave very energetic head and looked mad when I threw on a cover to do her.

She spent the whole hour taking care of me and I had to do very little work. She got me off twice and was very vocal whein I was ramming her from behind, Here is her pic and maybe someone else can have some fun with her as well.

Keep in mind that this technique of getting reduced rates does not work with the expereinced escort...I tried it last week with my local favorite and she told me to piss off....lol..

Sounds interesting Max! May try this one myself!

What would you have done if the room had been occupied by some horny bastard that just happened to have $300 to spend?

whocaresIdo
10-15-05, 15:59
Sounds interesting Max! May try this one myself!

What would you have done if the room had been occupied by some horny bastard that just happened to have $300 to spend?This is why the local are going out of town,and asking for deposit,you need to think with the big head not the little one.

melowdowneasy
10-15-05, 22:50
I just seen Mariah and yes its a real ad.Called her fri night for sat night. I did not find my experience to be like max here at all, but we all know, ymmv. I asked her about it and she said it didnt happen. Who knows.

Admission is steep but would recommend if the barely legal is your thing. Brand spankin new to the hobby!!!! Very sweet girl,shy,girl next door. Girl could make a boat load of money on the east side strippin!! But way to shy for that.

Kinda reminds me of (Amie,Aslee,Madilyn) so another huge huge ymmv.

She knows theres alot of assholes out there,she may of already seen one,(she said she did not). What a way to help the hobby out Max. Girls tryin real hard to better her situation and you rip her off,What a great guy you are. Girls just startin out,needs some good experiences to stick around and runs into you right off the bat,your a real credit to the hobby.

We all know there is a wide range of girls out there, some might deserve to get ripped off,because they would rip you off in a heartbeat.But not this one.
And some providers know theres a wide range of men out there,some get off on rippin a girl off.Are more horrible things. Some girls start with the dreaded upsell when you get there,and some guys start with the dreaded downsell when she gets there.

I hope shes got some friends,I might find out!!!, Max won't.

Chicagomax
10-16-05, 00:24
You give the rest of us a bad name.


lmao at that

Chicagomax
10-16-05, 00:25
Sounds interesting Max! May try this one myself!

What would you have done if the room had been occupied by some horny bastard that just happened to have $300 to spend?


I made sure I asked for a room with no one on either side. I was lucky they has one. But yea that would have been funny

Chicagomax
10-16-05, 00:44
I get a hold of this chick from craigslist tonight. She wants me to come over and have some fun with her. She lives in Frontenac and tells me she is a real cute asian babe with a smoking body and a face like a china doll. So I ask her for a pic and she says she is sending it. Well it never shows up and it is starting to get late so I decide to take a chance.

I get her address and head over to her house. When she opens the door I almost freakin gag. She answers the door in a bra and shorts and she looks real nasty. Her face looks like a monkey she smells like fish. When asians eat lots of fish they get that fish smell. Her house was real filthy and some dude is heading out the backdoor...lol...

I just start laughing and walk the hell back to my truck. She is pissed and screams some name at me and slams the door shut. I head home laughing but really grossed out by this nasty female. Her pic showed up and I am attaching it here. You guys can have that smelly monkey faced chick

whocaresIdo
10-16-05, 01:12
I get a hold of this chick from craigslist tonight. She wants me to come over and have some fun with her. She lives in Frontenac and tells me she is a real cute asian babe with a smoking body and a face like a china doll. So I ask her for a pic and she says she is sending it. Well it never shows up and it is starting to get late so I decide to take a chance.

I get her address and head over to her house. When she opens the door I almost freakin gag. She ansers the door in a bra an shorts and she looks real nasty. Her face looks like a monkey she smells like fish. When asians eat lots of fish they get that fish smell. Her house was real filthy and some dude is heading out the backdoor...lol...

I just start laughing and walk the hell back to my truck. She is pissed and screams some name at me and slams the door shut. I head home laughing but really grossed out by this nasty female. Her pic showed up and I am attaching it here. You guys can have that smelly monkey faced chickYou need to write a book as your life is one big fantasy,you could make a great writing about your bull. But your stories really make it hard for the rest of us. My advice is to get a life and learn how to spell.

PsyberZombie
10-16-05, 08:25
I had her come up but I tried a new technique a buddy of mine has used. I sent her to an empty room next door to mine at the hotel...

Max , you sneaky devil , you !!

Almost as sneaky as this guy I know who uses counter·feit twenties to pay SWs . I told him he's playing with
fire — but he hasn't gotten burned yet and who knows how many Clevelands he's saved over the years

Fred Reed
10-16-05, 10:10
PsyberZombie,

I have a feeling that passing out fake bills will get a fella into more trouble than getting caught for prostitution. The Federal LEO gets involved when you print those fake bills.

Fred



Max , you sneaky devil , you !!

Almost as sneaky as this guy I know who uses counter·feit twenties to pay SWs . I told him he's playing with
fire — but he hasn't gotten burned yet and who knows how many Clevelands he's saved over the years

PsyberZombie
10-16-05, 18:36
I have a feeling that passing out fake bills will get a fella into more trouble than getting caught for prostitution. The Federal LEO gets involved when you print those fake bills.

Yeah , but his 'Strategy' depends on several Facts =

• He uses a heavier bond of paper , so the bills pass the "Feel Test" — especially in low light like you often have during a Car Date

• He mixes the Funny Money in with the Genuine Item

• The girls tend to spend the money on drugs , or in inner·city small businesses = both want the money more than they want to help the Feds

• This last point is critical , because the Feds have this Policy that dis·courages people from turning in Counter·feit Bills = the last person holding them gets "stuck" for their value

[ IOW , if YOU call up the Feds and turn in a phony bill , they'll question you , then CONFISCATE it = you get NOTHING in return . Thus , it's better to just pass the bill along and hope that the *next* person gets 'stuck'
with it ]

• If he ever does some·how get caught , he'll just produce a recent ATM receipt , and say *that's* where HE got the Bill

Pretty Fool·Proof — but still quite risky

Fred Reed
10-16-05, 22:43
Yeah , but his 'Strategy' depends on several Facts =

• He uses a heavier bond of paper , so the bills pass the "Feel Test" — especially in low light like you often have during a Car Date

• He mixes the Funny Money in with the Genuine Item

• The girls tend to spend the money on drugs , or in inner·city small businesses = both want the money more than they want to help the Feds

• This last point is critical , because the Feds have this Policy that dis·courages people from turning in Counter·feit Bills = the last person holding them gets "stuck" for their value

[ IOW , if YOU call up the Feds and turn in a phony bill , they'll question you , then CONFISCATE it = you get NOTHING in return . Thus , it's better to just pass the bill along and hope that the *next* person gets 'stuck'
with it ]

• If he ever does some·how get caught , he'll just produce a recent ATM receipt , and say *that's* where HE got the Bill

Pretty Fool·Proof — but still quite risky

What happens if you are searched by LE for whatever reason and they find the bills in your wallet? I don't think that having an ATM receipt proves that the receipt is for the bogus bills. If a guy is printing money, he can print a receipt too. The banks track the serial numbers of the bills that they load into the machines anyway. If LE checks with the bank you are busted!

By the way, what kind of printer does your friend use?

Fred

X Mariah X
10-17-05, 15:10
I decided last night to get a hotel room and try out some of the women on Craigslist. Man oh man were there some ugly looking women on there until I ran across this add.

"HI I AM MARIAH AND I WILL BE AVAILABLE ALL NIGHT LONG FOR OUTCALLS ONLY. MY DONATION IS $200 FOR HALF $300 FOR AN HR. 3-1-4-5-7-0-4-3-5-9 NO BLOCKED CALLS PLEASE. "

Her picture looked good but she wanted 300 for an hour and there was no way but I called her anyway. She is a student and lives in U-cty and is short on cash. I had her come up but I tried a new technique a buddy of mine has used. I sent her to an empty room next door to mine at the hotel.

It is now midnight and she had to drive about 30 minutes to get to me. She knocks on the door next door as I watch through the eyehole in the door. She keeps knocking and of course no one answers and I can see she is getting pissed. SO I go to the door and ask her if I can help her. She says she is looking for the guy in that room. I tell her that I know him cause we are in town on business but he just left with some of our friends to go to the strip joints across the river. She looks pissed and like she is about to cry.

I asked her if she was a working girl and she said she had a date with him and had driven almost 30 minutes to get here. I told her that that really sucked but maybe I could make it worth the trip for her. She comes in and she finally agress to 150 for an hour cause that is all I have.

She is cute as hell and very very fresh. She wore a nice summer dress and had a nice face and small b cup boobs but hey she looked liked a young college student as was about 19. She looked great naked and had no problems rtaking off her clothes. She gave very energetic head and looked mad when I threw on a cover to do her.

She spent the whole hour taking care of me and I had to do very little work. She got me off twice and was very vocal whein I was ramming her from behind, Here is her pic and maybe someone else can have some fun with her as well.

Keep in mind that this technique of getting reduced rates does not work with the expereinced escort...I tried it last week with my local favorite and she told me to piss off....lol..HAHAHHAHAHHAH you need to go get a life. This is Mariah, I just started back up again and I have only seen 2 clients so far, they have both been outcalls, and none of them were at hotels. You are probably the freak that called me had me drive to Florissant, which was about a 45 minute drive, and then when i knocked on your door you said no I didn't call you "seriously". That is why I will not accept private calls, and I usually don't, but at the time I just wasn't thinking about it really. Please do me a favor go get a life, quit making up stories that you WISH were true, or that you dreamt of, and don't ever call me. You wasted my time, my gas, and a possible client's time. Everybody reading this BS, don't believe it, but if you do that's ok, because I know it never happened, and the freak that wrote it knows it never happened.

PsyberZombie
10-17-05, 18:08
The banks track the serial numbers of the bills that they load into the machines anyway. If LE checks with the bank you are busted!


The Bank keeps track of ALL the Serial Numbers of ALL the un·sequential Bills they load in·to an ATM Machine ???

Yeah , Right , Fred !!





By the way, what kind of printer does your friend use?



WHY do you ask , Fred ?? Thinking of trying this one yer·self ??

Any·wayz = he uses an easily available full·color copier loaded with heavy bond paper . He lays out a bunch of genuine Bills on the glass and prints out as many copies of this 'Sheet' of Bills that he wants ; then he reverses both the paper and the Real Bills he's copying to print the 'obverse' side ; then he cuts the bills out of all those Sheets with an old fashioned paper·cutter

No Way would you try to pass these Bills at , say , your local Liquor Store . But once they get in·to circulation , via your Friendly Neighbor·hood Hooker , no·one in the criminal under·world or a small business owner wants to be the One caught 'holding the Bag' — so they typically get passed on

.... may·be to YOUR ATM Machine !!

Big KC
10-17-05, 21:48
I know a guy that was busted by the secret service. They traced the fake money to his printer. It took a few year, but now he is trying not to be the jail ho. If you are that hard up start jerking to your old mags. Stay safe and free.

whocaresIdo
10-18-05, 11:44
I know a guy that was busted by the secret service. They traced the fake money to his printer. It took a few year, but now he is trying not to be the jail ho. If you are that hard up start jerking to your old mags. Stay safe and free.Found this enjoy.

So see funny can be traced

NEW YORK - Just because a document from a color laser printer doesn't carry your name doesn't mean no one can trace it back to you, privacy advocates warn.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation says it has cracked the tracking codes embedded in Xerox Corp.'s DocuColor color laser printers. Such codes are just one way that manufacturers employ technology to help governments fight currency counterfeiting.

"Underground democracy movements ... will always need the anonymity of simple paper documents, but this technology makes it easier for governments to find dissenters," said Lee Tien, EFF senior staff attorney. "Even worse, it shows how the government and private industry make backroom deals to weaken our privacy by compromising everyday equipment like printers."

Researchers found patterns of yellow dots arranged in 15 by 8 grids and printed repeatedly over every color page, said Seth Schoen, a staff technologist at the San Francisco-based civil-liberties group.

The dots are visible only with a magnifying glass or under blue light, which causes the yellow dots to appear black.

By analyzing test pages printed out by supporters worldwide and by staffers at various FedEx Kinko's locations, researchers found that some of the dots correspond to the printers' serial numbers. Other dots refer to the date and time of the printing.

Xerox spokesman Bill McKee would not provide details about the technology. He said the company "does not routinely share any information about its customers," though it does respond to requests from law enforcement.

At the Secret Service, which helps develop such technologies with other government agencies and industry, spokesman Eric Zahren said the tools are designed "simply to make it more difficult to utilize that equipment for the illegal activity of reproducing genuine U.S. currency."

"They do not in any way track the use of a personal computer or a person's computer's hardware or software," he added, refusing to elaborate on the technologies.

But Schoen said much can be gleaned from the printouts alone.

Consider two documents, one carrying the author's name and one meant to be anonymous. By comparing the codes, it can be determined whether the two documents came from the same printer, even if Xerox reveals nothing about a customer's serial number, Schoen said.

The EFF is now studying other printers from well-known manufacturers with similar tracking codes, but whose keys remain secret.

The Xerox DocuColor printers are high-end machines more likely to be found in offices and copy centers than in homes.

The U.S. government is involved with other countries in a separate anti-counterfeiting program meant to prevent currency from being scanned and printed.

Adobe Systems Inc. has acknowledged quietly adding the government software to its Photoshop software at the request of regulators and international bankers.

But David Skidmore, a spokesman at the Federal Reserve Board, said that the technology, known as the Counterfeit Deterrence System, was aimed mostly at personal computers and ink-jet printers — not the high-end machines like DocuColor.

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PsyberZombie
10-18-05, 17:32
I know a guy that was busted by the secret service. They traced the fake money to his printer. It took a few year, but now he is trying not to be the jail ho. If you are that hard up start jerking to your old mags. Stay safe and free.

As my Ol' Uncle·Zombie always says =

" America is Land of the Free

.... and FREE means You don't gotta Pay !! "


THAT'S why some people try to use bogus bills to pay their Hookers , Big KC

Wastrel
10-19-05, 07:08
From 7-14-04:

"ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. -- At the blackjack tables and roulette wheels, cash is a way of life. So are bogus bills, which occasionally slip past unsuspecting dealers or into slot machines.

"In 1995, a counterfeiting ring passed $20,000 in fake $100s in casinos over a Memorial Day weekend, before one of its principals used three of the bills to pay a prostitute for her services.

"The eagle-eyed hooker spotted the fakes and called police, leading to the arrest of seven men."

[End quote]

But of course those were high end counterfeiters dealing with a high end hooker. Here's something today from the other end of the market, similar to information in a prior post:

"Color printers are devices to help feds track criminals"

Mike Musgrove
Washington Post
Oct. 19, 2005 12:00 AM

"WASHINGTON - It sounds like a conspiracy theory, but it isn't. The pages coming out of your color printer may contain hidden information that could be used to track you down if you ever cross the U.S. government.

"Last year, an article in PC World magazine pointed out that printouts from many color laser printers contained yellow dots scattered across the page, viewable only with a special kind of flashlight. The article quoted a senior researcher at Xerox Corp. saying that the dots contain information useful to law enforcement authorities for tracking criminals.

"The content of the coded information was supposed to be a secret, available only to agencies looking for counterfeiters who use color printers."

[End qoute]

Personally, I'd rather not do things to make a Federal case out of my little local misdemeanors.

Chicagomax
10-19-05, 09:51
I found this site yesterday www.modelmingle.com . I do not know if it will be good to me or not but thought I would let you all in on it. I heard most of the gals are models looking for a break or a guy to finance their modeling futures.

As soon as I figure out a good approach and can hook up with a few I will let you all know.

"working to give all mongers an even worse reputation" lol

Chicagomax
10-19-05, 13:25
I ran across a very interesting site this morning. The url is http://www.escortblogs.net/bloggerlist.htm

It seems some of the "ladies" are upset that we exchange information about them in this open forum. Some others were ticked at me because of my post the other day where I got a reduced rate with a local provider...lol...

Now these ladies have to know that these forums exist so I am not sure why they are getting so upset. But they have been telling one another to monitor this forum. Some of them do not want an honest opinion related about them to others.

There are several others as well. Any of you guys that are seeing local escorts at all are listed in forums like this. The info includes stuff like your name, address, cell and work numbers and a description. of your car or home. They also talk about your likes and dislikes and what you are into and how you treated the escort. There is also a blacklist of email address, cell numbers and names to avoid.

If either of these lists ever fell into LE hands it could be very bad for some of the mongers. Also keep in mind that many of these escorts are people you can not trust so what is stopping them from blackmailing you with the posted information?

Just a thought guys,

Chicagomax
10-19-05, 14:00
Here are the local escorts with links that blog on the escort blog site in case you wanted to read what they have to say. There maybe more but these were the ones I knew were from St Louis.

http://www.escortblogs.net/bustyblonde.htm

http://www.escortblogs.net/maggie.htm

Anyone who knows of these two knows why they have so much time to post. They are not seeing many clients because they both overcharge for their looks and performances. These two gals are more like the tier of escort that resides between street walkers and strippers from C-Mowes.

(update since posting) It looks like Maggie took offense to my posting and reposted my post from here in here blog......

(second update) I want to tell the streetwalkers in the St Louis area I am very sorry for saying that Maggie and Nikkie are above you on the hooker food chain.

PsyberZombie
10-19-05, 19:05
Personally, I'd rather not do things to make a Federal case out of my little local misdemeanors.

Me , too , Wastrel

.... but some people actually take Great Pleasure in pulling off these kinds of High·Risk Hi·Jinks


But on a different Subject =

YOU , Wastrel , never cease to *amaze* me with your Posts = even though my total Post count is much greater than yours , I here·by Bow to YOU , as one of the Best and most thoroughly entertaining , informative , & read·able Members here

Chicagomax
10-20-05, 15:57
I got email form someone today who said there is a new escort in town named CeCe Constantian that is really hot and well worth the money. Anyone know of her or have heard of her and can throw their two cents in?

Vstat
10-20-05, 17:07
Has anyone ever heard of her? I didn't find any reviews on TER. Her site is http://geocities.com/lacynat/Lacy.html

Woody66062
10-20-05, 20:18
I know a guy that was busted by the secret service. They traced the fake money to his printer. It took a few year, but now he is trying not to be the jail ho. If you are that hard up start jerking to your old mags. Stay safe and free.

Although I would never have the balls to pull something like this, here is what seems to me to be an easy way around getting busted by hidden serial numbers. Either don't register the printer with the manufacturer, or pick the one you use for such things at a garage sale.
Wouldn't "Biff the Yuppy" have some explaining to "Missionary Muffy" if street walker money was traced back to him? Damn, almost sounds like it would be worth it.

Computer Dude
10-20-05, 20:32
Has anyone ever heard of her? I didn't find any reviews on TER. Her site is http://geocities.com/lacynat/Lacy.htmlI haven't seen her, but she does have TER reviews. Look under the 636 area code. I had an appt with her but was sent out of town by my CEO. When I return I do hope to visit. Let me know if you take a chance.

Wulfe13
10-21-05, 15:15
Well this is my first post and probably my only one. You guys post alot of helpful tips here.

I haven't had much experience with SW and none with escorts. My SW experience is limited to the South Side. Mostly back in the day, Cherokee street, Jefferson and surrounding areas. Personally I don't have a need for it anymore as I decided some time ago to get married. I met a sexy little filipina and she satifies me plenty. Talk about feeling like a king. These women know how to treat a man.

The SW in St. Louis turn me off, most are crackheads and absolutely hideous! Hell most of the escorts I've seen in pics on here from the St. Louis area make me sick. Why aren't there that many hot ones like the Dallas area? No offense guys but jeeeeezz, if this was all I had to choose from I think I'd stay home and rub one out! Some are smoking hot, like that mariah chick, but most are not. And these prices they charge, do they think their snatch is made of Gold? Oh well, to each his own. I do recommend a trip to South East Asia, even if you don't want a wife, they have LOTS of Gorgeous Bar Girls. I met a little 19 yr old freelancer there and WOW. She kept screaming. "eets so beeeg! " hahaha. Ya gotta love that! If you really want some sweeet ass for practically NO money, take a little trip. Why put up with these Americans womens attitudes? Fuck that! No more for me. Well goodluck and be safe!

If by chance anybody has any questions about my trip to SEA, PM me I'd be glad to help out a bro!

PsyberZombie
10-21-05, 17:11
Although I would never have the balls to pull something like this, here is what seems to me to be an easy way around getting busted by hidden serial numbers. Either don't register the printer with the manufacturer, or pick the one you use for such things at a garage sale.
Wouldn't "Biff the Yuppy" have some explaining to "Missionary Muffy" if street walker money was traced back to him? Damn, almost sounds like it would be worth it.


"Color printers are devices to help feds track criminals"

Mike Musgrove
Washington Post
Oct. 19, 2005 12:00 AM

"WASHINGTON - It sounds like a conspiracy theory, but it isn't. The pages coming out of your color printer may contain hidden information that could be used to track you down if you ever cross the U.S. government.

"Last year, an article in PC World magazine pointed out that printouts from many color laser printers contained yellow dots scattered across the page, viewable only with a special kind of flashlight. The article quoted a senior researcher at Xerox Corp. saying that the dots contain information useful to law enforcement authorities for tracking criminals.





First of all , any encrypted data on Sheets of Bills will be destroyed — or at least rendered use·less — when that Sheet is cut up to make the Individual Bills

Next , you can do what my friend does =

Keep a 'Template' of the Sheet of Bills you wish to re·produce ; then use a commercial walk·in Copier company [ like KINKO'S ] to do the actual Dirty Work

Southern Boy
10-21-05, 17:16
I haven't seen her, but she does have TER reviews. Look under the 636 area code. I had an appt with her but was sent out of town by my CEO. When I return I do hope to visit. Let me know if you take a chance.Hey guys,

I've seen her and she was terriffic. A little hard to track down but well worth the effort. She is smart, personable, and passionate.

Treat her well

Be safe

SoBo

Big KC
10-21-05, 19:16
I saw Lacy a few times. It has been over a year since I saw her last. I always paid for an hour of her time, but would spend a few hours with her. She never rushed me and I always had a good time. After we were done, we would lay on the bed and talk and joke for an hour, or two, or three.

KC Questor
10-24-05, 04:36
I can't think of very many ways to bring a world of hurt down on this site more straightforward than giving advice on how to counterfeit money. Seriously, is this the proper venue? Let's get back to talking about innocent activities that mainly violate local and state ordinances and leave the Feds out of it, mmmkay?

Explorer1
10-24-05, 09:17
Hey fellas!

Any escort recommendations catering to foot fetishes?

Thanks

Fred Reed
10-24-05, 11:31
Your tax dollars at work. Here is the US DOJ manuel for SW. Required reading for those into the SW scene:

http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/pdf/e05021552.pdf

http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/pdf/e05021552.pdf

Trox Diver
10-25-05, 08:35
You should see Lacy if you get the chance, I haven't been with her in a while, but she is amazing. Very personable and fun to be around.

Chicagomax
10-25-05, 10:02
Lacy and CeCe from my earlier post are not the same person. I am sure of that.

I saw Lacy last probably a year ago or better (when I was willing to do fat chicks) and thought she was not worth the money. But I think she has reviews on TER so check there.

brwnilvr
10-26-05, 20:36
Gentleman,

I am seeking suggestions on who and where to spend my birthday. Please I am open to suggestions from escorts to special locations.

Bill Bradsky
10-27-05, 15:06
Gentleman,

I am seeking suggestions on who and where to spend my birthday. Please I am open to suggestions from escorts to special locations.

Bangkok.

Monger on,

BB

Wulfe13
10-27-05, 20:54
Bangkok.

Monger on,

BBOr Philippines. Happy B-day.

He So Horney
10-28-05, 06:59
Sherry is one of the economy masseuses that I visit with some frequency. Why I like her is because she is sweet, willing to please within her limits, and for the money is probably one of the best bargains around for an erotic massage with a happy ending.

I went to see her this past week and came away drained of my tensions. Note: She has limits and sticks to them, however if you are content with a topless massage and a nice sensual touch, then try her.

She does a nice build/tease to the main event. The massage begins in therapeautic mode, but eventually becomes progressively more erotic as she closes in on the goodies. Her hands are silky and her touch is up to you. At the beginning of the massage she will ask you how you like it. I always opt for a light touch because I am there to become aroused and I don't want a deep tissue massage. That's just me.

She is about 5'4", hwp, with nice natural breasts. She is average looking with brown hair and eyes and lives in a beautiful new villa in the Lake St. Louis area. She is available most days and evenings, and I find her to have a really great affable personality.

As always I am willing to share contact information and only ask that you respect her limits and be a gentleman when you are with her.

He So Horney

He So Horney
10-28-05, 07:29
I have been prospecting on CL. Haven't had the time to try any of these, but maybe one of you will. If you contact them just tell them you spotted their ad at CL.

jody1305@yahoo.com incall my home in alton erotic massage with a
happy ending 65 per hour or 150 GFE

(I have previously uploaded some pictures of her - see pink1, pink2, pink3 in earlier posts - sorry I can't recall exactly when I did those but when I tried to include them now the system wouldn't allow it because they are already here)

StLBBWMassage@aol.com I charge $60 for an hour relaxing/therapeutic massage and $80 for an hour sensual massage which includes a regular massage with sensual touch and teasing and a happy ending if you so choose.

I provide what some of my clients refer to as more of an experience rather than just a massage session. The atmosphere is warm and cozy, candles and music, warm oil, etc. (no pictures to share)

This next one I just spotted this morning. Really hot looking asian:

Are you looking for a true beauty that has it all? Well look no further. Here is the total package!.... Dragon Lily stands 5'4", weighing only 105 lbs. with an all natural 36C-25-34 physique. She is every mans fantasy and could be your dream come. Both incall and outcall available. Also accepting all major credit cards. Don't miss out, CALL NOW!!
Dragon Lily (202) 438-0458 (see pictures attached)

Here's one that offered a $50 BJ. See pictures listed as Bridge7 and Bridge8.
hpoetic@excite.com

Here's another one - sorry no pictures.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO PLAY WITH A SEXY EXTRA THICK LADY FOR FOR FUN I AM VERY FREAKY SWEET & SENSUAL.ASK ME AND YOU WILL SEE,SORRY NO PIC.BUT I CAN ASSURE YOUR SATISFACTION. AM FREE AFTER 6PM TO MEET. COCOA,NO B/S SERIOUS CALLERS ONLY BLOCK CALLS WILL NOT BE ANSWERED AT ALL $75/BJ $100 1/2HR FULL/SERVICE 314 873-9209 COCOA

in2chnge@aim.com - this one offers oral and anal for $100 (after you negotiate) see pictures geegee1 and geegee1

Here's a cutie:

Great things come in small packages! Standing at 4'11" tall, with a 34C-24-34 figure, Britney is definitely a winner's choice. Visiting town for a VERY limited time... CALL NOW for a most gratifying experience!
Available for both Incall/Outcall. All credit cards accepted. No blocked Calls. Recent and real photos!XOXO, Britney (202) 438-0458 (see Britney pictures)

Again, I have not been with any of these ladies. If you meet them please let us know how it went.

Happy Hunting

He So Horney

Chicagomax
10-28-05, 12:14
Hey HeSo

I have not tried dragonlilly or britney but I may since they look pretty good. Then again depends on what they charge. I would bet you could have them at the same time since they have the same contact number. That would be the way to go with them.

A buddy of mine had both the bridge chick and Gee Gee and he was really disappointed. They both advertise on CL and Backpage all time. They work for the same dude and there are actually several girls that work for this dude. If you look over several days of postings you will find that the pics are taken in the same hotel room off of 270 and Lindbergh, The girls also seem to share the same clothes for the pictures.

He So Horney
10-28-05, 20:15
Hey Max,

You're more observant than me - you're right, the two cuties have the same number. Wonder if this is a bait and switch? They sure look good.

If anyone gives them a try, please post.

thanks!

He So Horney

Lao Ma
10-28-05, 20:58
Those pictures are of Britney the porno star. So if the CL ad references that she is a popular LA porno actress, and the rates are porno rates (she'd get 500 to 1000 an hour in LA) , then the ad is legit. If it's not mentioned, or the rates are everyday escort rates, then stay clear because it's a scam.

Blue Jeep Guy
10-28-05, 21:41
The bridge chick and Gee Gee are also hooked up with sexy slim, crystal, and candy. They are working out of a hotel by the airport. I've seen Slim and candy and would sum them both up as escort pricing but sw service.

Dryerguy
10-29-05, 02:29
Hey HeSo

I have not tried dragonlilly or britney but I may since they look pretty good. Then again depends on what they charge. I would bet you could have them at the same time since they have the same contact number. That would be the way to go with them.

A buddy of mine had both the bridge chick and Gee Gee and he was really disappointed. They both advertise on CL and Backpage all time. They work for the same dude and there are actually several girls that work for this dude. If you look over several days of postings you will find that the pics are taken in the same hotel room off of 270 and Lindbergh, The girls also seem to share the same clothes for the pictures.That's what I've noticed as well. There seems to be a group of four or five there, and yes, it's OBVIOUSLY the same room (Crystal, Gee Gee, and Slim). I've heard HORRIBLE reports about Slim, so one could assume that the others are similar in both quality and attitude. I emailed one of the gals once, got no response; I'm sure I'm better off for it.

The DryerGuy

brwnilvr
10-29-05, 12:29
There are a couple on Craigs list that pull a bait and switch. AJ and Tay she must run a crew of her own called AJ for an appointment and she definitely was not the one that showed up. The picture looked good but the real thing was a 3 or 4 at best.

Alex P Keaton
10-29-05, 13:17
Here's one that offered a $50 BJ. See pictures listed as Bridge7 and Bridge8.
hpoetic@excite.com


She will also provide a full-service incall for $100 between 11 p.m. and 3 a.m. I haven't seen her, so I don't have a review, but I've exchanged emails with her.

melowdowneasy
10-29-05, 15:51
She will also provide a full-service incall for $100 between 11 p.m. and 3 a.m. I haven't seen her, so I don't have a review, but I've exchanged emails with her.Not a real good incall place, apartment complex with a long walk in. A ton of people in the parking lot at least on a warm night in sept. I went there for a 80 half hour,but didnt like all the people around so I split.I would not want to be there at 2 in the morning. Also calls herself the head doctor and cuban goddess. This girl is not in with sexy slim and the others(gee gee.candy etc)

Shes in with a group(bridge girl,cuban goddess,head doctor ) that the guy calls playas entertainment. I was on his yahoo group but he booted me cause I would not take individual emails instead of daily digests. About 10 black chicks at the time,sasha being the best.He also make xxx movies. Got 1 girl goes about 34 24 54 I'm talkin round beach ball ass,bootylicious!!!

I'm really gettin bummed by the prices,my atf agency just raised prices again. 1 girl went from 250 to 400,no phukin way dude! All gfe girls but still.

On the bright side theres a real good gfe in town this week at a real good price!!(1 guy said best bbbj he ever had) Did some research and its legit. Post about her and where to find her after I see her lol.

brwnilvr
10-30-05, 15:57
There has been several posts on Craigs List by a group saying they are going to start outing the Ladies and their Clients. Just a word of caution.

Katfish991
10-30-05, 17:14
Whats backpage?

Chicagomax
10-30-05, 21:06
I got a very strange email from a local escort that I have not seen in about three months. She told me about that group on CL and that she had gotten a letter from them telling her that if she did not stop escorting they would out her to her neighbors and family. So of course she was upset and wanted to know what to do.

The wierd part is I have not seen or heard from her in three months. So of course I am not writing her back cause I do not really care what they do to her. The email could have been forged and maybe not really her for all I know.

I posted before that many of the local escorts keep your name and number handy so they know you when you call. There are also a couple of forums that local escorts use to talk about us clients. ie....your name....address, car you drive...phone number..your kinks and if your tip or not....

If I was married that would bother me very very much.

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Country Boy #3
10-30-05, 23:48
www.backpage.com is full of ads for several different cities. Look under adult services.

Chicagomax
10-31-05, 10:19
CeCe Constantian from what I have been told is really Maggie. She has very bad reviews and is much fatter than her pic shows here. But as we all know a chick can lay in different positions and hold in her fat belly and look somewhat thin.

Anyway she has bad reviews and one of the reviews called her nasty. So I for one will be avioding that cow. I have a face pic as well if any senior member wants to pm for it. It was sent to me by one of the senior members on here. You may want to put a bag over your monitor first.

Trox Diver
10-31-05, 12:50
CeCe Constantian from what I have been told is really Maggie. She has very bad reviews and is much fatter than her pic shows here. But as we all know a chick can lay in different positions and hold in her fat belly and look somewhat thin.

Anyway she has bad reviews and one of the reviews called her nasty. So I for one will be avioding that cow. I have a face pic as well if someone wants to pm for it. It was sent to me by one of the senior members on here. You may want to put a bag over your monitor first.Answered an ad on CL "Ever been with a soccer mom?", it's Maggie/CeCe/Sunny, sent me the link to her tripod site. I saw this woman a few years ago, the reviews we've all seen are accurate. She should just start advertising $50bj's, that's the only way I'd see her.

Ididyou
10-31-05, 13:13
CeCe Constantian from what I have been told is really Maggie. She has very bad reviews and is much fatter than her pic shows here. But as we all know a chick can lay in different positions and hold in her fat belly and look somewhat thin.

Anyway she has bad reviews and one of the reviews called her nasty. So I for one will be avioding that cow. I have a face pic as well if someone wants to pm for it. It was sent to me by one of the senior members on here. You may want to put a bag over your monitor first.I think you information is wrong,

brwnilvr
10-31-05, 18:15
CeCe or Maggie is the first one the group on Craig List is threatening to out.

Jannisary
10-31-05, 19:11
Is the original post threatening to out esorts and clients still up on CL? I wasn't able to find it. The threat doesn't make much sense to me. I can see how some people could gather up information on the escorts but the clients? I suppose if members of that group followed the escort and then took down the liscense plates of the possible clients they might get something but how else would they get the client information? The only way I can think of is if they somehow flip an escort and get her to give up the information. Either that or somehow crack into the supposed client database. But still, if its a private database they would have to flip one of the girls and get her working for them in order to access the site.

Max I would be interested in hearing more about that client site. I remember reading about the escorts having a site giving LEO details but that was found out after a bust and I hope the people running it where smart enough to shut things down. Do you have new information you can share Max?

The whole outing threat seems like a silly stunt to me. Maybe some bible thumper with too much time on their hands and not enough common sense. I could see somebody getting hurt trying something like that.

whocaresIdo
10-31-05, 19:58
Is the original post threatening to out esorts and clients still up on CL? I wasn't able to find it. The threat doesn't make much sense to me. I can see how some people could gather up information on the escorts but the clients? I suppose if members of that group followed the escort and then took down the liscense plates of the possible clients they might get something but how else would they get the client information? The only way I can think of is if they somehow flip an escort and get her to give up the information. Either that or somehow crack into the supposed client database. But still, if its a private database they would have to flip one of the girls and get her working for them in order to access the site.

Max I would be interested in hearing more about that client site. I remember reading about the escorts having a site giving LEO details but that was found out after a bust and I hope the people running it where smart enough to shut things down. Do you have new information you can share Max?

The whole outing threat seems like a silly stunt to me. Maybe some bible thumper with too much time on their hands and not enough common sense. I could see somebody getting hurt trying something like that.If Max Here had taken the time to really read the posting on CL you could tell it was just a bible thumper because the person was quoting the bible and damming all to hell.

Chicagomax
11-01-05, 00:16
[QUOTE=jannisary]Is the original post threatening to out esorts and clients still up on CL? I wasn't able to find it. The threat doesn't make much sense to me. I can see how some people could gather up information on the escorts but the clients? I suppose if members of that group followed the escort and then took down the liscense plates of the possible clients they might get something but how else would they get the client information? The only way I can think of is if they somehow flip an escort and get her to give up the information. Either that or somehow crack into the supposed client database. But still, if its a private database they would have to flip one of the girls and get her working for them in order to access the site.

Max I would be interested in hearing more about that client site. I remember reading about the escorts having a site giving LEO details but that was found out after a bust and I hope the people running it where smart enough to shut things down. Do you have new information you can share Max?


Let me see if I can explain both points:

This may be the same group that ran a whole bunch of traveling escorts out of St Louis about 2 or 3 years ago. I remember talking to Madison after that crap started. She had a someone contact her about what she was doing in St Louis. They knew way too much about her and told her to get out of St Louis or they would out her. So she left.

He ex Paul ran a short lived escort service for a while after Madison left. He never made it because the traveling escorts were run out of town by this group. As soon as they arrived they would get phone calls from this group and the hotel managers were warned. So the heat was too much and none of the girls would come back so Paul closed shop. (I have heard since he is back but I do not know if it is true. He use to live in St Charles)

This group I guess is very good at getting escort names and address. It is really not that hard because if you know someones phone number they are very easy to track. I saw the ad on CL they left and it sounds like they are back.......

As far as the escort board goes: I saw this board a couple of years ago when I was bangin one of the KC girls on a regular basis. She showed me the site and there was stuff about me on there. IT had cell phone number, address, and what I did but more importantly what I was into and how much I was wiling to pay. One chick even mentioned under my description that I liked two pops when I was with an escort. I was stunned.

Since then I have been more careful and only see escorts I think I can trust(but you never know) The only one I really trusted was Madison.

I ran into the escort blog site sometime ago and that is when I saw mention of several boards that have client information on them. The escort can search by name, email address or phone numbers to find info on us. Now many of the escorts will say these forums do not exist but they are full of crap. They do. Remember the one you mentioned with the cop info on it.

Also many of the escorts keep their clients phone numbers and names. Once again they say they do not but that is crap as well. read the escorts blogs and see for yourself.

I will find that forum with client names either through and internet search or one of the escorts will tell me for some extra dough. Hey it is all about the money for then right!

I found out that the gals on Sugardaddyforme.com also have a forum they use to talk about the good and bad sugardaddies they have seen. And that forum has pictures of the sugardaddies.

Guys who are married should worry the most. The escort business is a liars and scam artists dream and most of the chicks have drug problems or an old man they are supporting. Do not think for a minute they would not turn on you for a second if it meant they could make an extra buck or two.


Be careful dudes.

Chicagomax
11-01-05, 09:58
This came from the ACLU website



Know Your Rights: What to do if You're Stopped by the Police

July 30, 2004



What to do if you're stopped by The Police




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To fight police abuse effectively you need to know your rights. There are some things you should do, some things you must do and some things you cannot do. If you are in the middle of a police encounter, you need a handy and quick reference to remind you what your rights and obligations are.

You can photocopy this and carry it in your wallet, pocket or glove compartment to give you quick access to your rights and obligations concerning police encounters.

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Think carefully about your words, movement, body language, and emotions.

Don't get into an argument with the police.

Remember, anything you say or do can be used against you.

Keep your hands where the police can see them.

Don't run. Don't touch any police officer.

Don't resist even if you believe you are innocent.

Don't complain on the scene or tell the police they're wrong or that you're going to file a complaint.

Do not make any statements regarding the incident. Ask for a lawyer immediately upon your arrest.

Remember officers' badge & patrol car numbers.

Write down everything you remember ASAP.

Try to find witnesses & their names & phone numbers.

If you are injured, take photographs of the injuries as soon as possible, but make sure you seek medical attention first.

If you feel your rights have been violated, file a written complaint with police department's internal affairs division or civilian complaint board.

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1. What you say to the police is always important. What you say can be used against you, and it can give the police an excuse to arrest you, especially if you bad-mouth a police officer.

2. You must show your driver's license and registration when stopped in a car. Otherwise, you don't have to answer any questions if you are detained or arrested, with one important exception. The police may ask for your name if you have been properly detained, and you can be arrested in some states for refusing to give it. If you reasonably fear that your name is incriminating, you can claim the right to remain silent, which may be a defense in case you are arrested anyway.

3. You don't have to consent to any search of yourself, your car or your house. If you DO consent to a search, it can affect your rights later in court. If the police say they have a search warrant, ASK TO SEE IT.

4. Do not interfere with, or obstruct the police -- you can be arrested for it.

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1. It's not a crime to refuse to answer questions, but refusing to answer can make the police suspicious about you. If you are asked to identify yourself, see paragraph 2 above.

2. Police may "pat-down" your clothing if they suspect a concealed weapon. Don't physically resist, but make it clear that you don't consent to any further search.

3. Ask if you are under arrest. If you are, you have a right to know why.

4. Don't bad-mouth the police officer or run away, even if you believe what is happening is unreasonable. That could lead to your arrest.

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1. Upon request, show them your driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance. In certain cases, your car can be searched without a warrant as long as the police have probable cause. To protect yourself later, you should make it clear that you do not consent to a search. It is not lawful for police to arrest you simply for refusing to consent to a search.

2. If you're given a ticket, you should sign it; otherwise you can be arrested. You can always fight the case in court later.

3. If you're suspected of drunk driving (DWI) and refuse to take a blood, urine or breath test, your driver's license may be suspended.

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1. You have the right to remain silent and to talk to a lawyer before you talk to the police. Tell the police nothing except your name and address. Don't give any explanations, excuses or stories. You can make your defense later, in court, based on what you and your lawyer decide is best.

2. Ask to see a lawyer immediately. If you can't pay for a lawyer, you have a right to a free one, and should ask the police how the lawyer can be contacted. Don't say anything without a lawyer.

3. Within a reasonable time after your arrest, or booking, you have the right to make a local phone call: to a lawyer, bail bondsman, a relative or any other person. The police may not listen to the call to the lawyer.

4. Sometimes you can be released without bail, or have bail lowered. Have your lawyer ask the judge about this possibility. You must be taken before the judge on the next court day after arrest.

5. Do not make any decisions in your case until you have talked with a lawyer.

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1. If the police knock and ask to enter your home, you don't have to admit them unless they have a warrant signed by a judge.

2. However, in some emergency situations (like when a person is screaming for help inside, or when the police are chasing someone) officers are allowed to enter and search your home without a warrant.

3. If you are arrested, the police can search you and the area close by. If you are in a building, "close by" usually means just the room you are in.

We all recognize the need for effective law enforcement, but we should also understand our own rights and responsibilities -- especially in our relationships with the police. Everyone, including minors, has the right to courteous and respectful police treatment.

If your rights are violated, don't try to deal with the situation at the scene. You can discuss the matter with an attorney afterwards, or file a complaint with the Internal Affairs or Civilian Complaint Board.

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TheDangPenguin
11-01-05, 20:35
I called this ad, but i wanted to know if anyone knew anything about this girl. She is in brooklyn, claims to live a big house on a private golf course, 1.6 for FS and 2.6 for two girls, almost seems too good, anyone?

Ad from RFT

I § MORNINGS! CALL EARLY 314-805-5424 46DD-27-36 All Natural Beauty Black Hair, Green Eyes. ¬ Fantasies ¬ Greek ¬ Submisives Welcome. Private Location. 7 days ¬ 7am-?

Ulysses 46
11-03-05, 07:42
Brooklyn? Golf course?

More like an vacant factory.

It just doesn't add up.

Maybe minature golf, long abandoned.

Brooklyn's a pretty sad place.

U 46

Funman1775
11-04-05, 09:20
Brooklyn? Golf course?

More like an vacant factory.

It just doesn't add up.

Maybe minature golf, long abandoned.

Brooklyn's a pretty sad place.

U 46The nearest private golf course is in Edwardsville about 15 miles away.

Be careful,

Funman

SS Goldma
11-06-05, 01:30
I called this ad, but i wanted to know if anyone knew anything about this girl. She is in brooklyn, claims to live a big house on a private golf course, 1.6 for FS and 2.6 for two girls, almost seems too good, anyone?

Ad from RFT

I § MORNINGS! CALL EARLY 314-805-5424 46DD-27-36 All Natural Beauty Black Hair, Green Eyes. ¬ Fantasies ¬ Greek ¬ Submisives Welcome. Private Location. 7 days ¬ 7am-?I saw her a couple of years ago she was in Belville not Brooklyn.

Born Slippy
11-08-05, 04:17
I'm still weary of ads from RFT. I guess I haven't heard one way or another if LC can put ads in there to set people up or not. I'd rather be overly causcious than jail.

Fred Reed
11-08-05, 19:12
I'm still weary of ads from RFT. I guess I haven't heard one way or another if LC can put ads in there to set people up or not. I'd rather be overly causcious than jail.

Born Slippy,

I have used RFT over the years without any LE problems. Police stings are usually set up in hotels and not a private residence. If you are worried about LE stick to girls who do incall in their home or apartment. I do not recommend having the girl come to your home. See my 08-13-05 post about an escort dying in some guys house. Some of the girls that work out of the cheap hotels on the east side are OK. But then there are some con artists over there too!

My concern is that the quality of girls advertising in RFT has gone downhill.

Happy Hunting!

Fred

Paces
11-08-05, 19:57
I have used some of the gals in the riverfront times with mixed results. I have not used anyone that was outstanding. There are some girls working out of an apartment near downtown, just off I 44. I saw Terry today for $5. She was very good. Skinny tight body 38 years old. She was either a very good actor or liked what she was doing. Would do everything but anal. I finished with bbbjcim. I would go see her again. They are very carefull the first time. They want to see your I.D. , business card etc. This is my first posting. I do need some advise on how to give out info on the girls without giving to much info to Le. Any help would be good.

Pace

Bonerfide
11-09-05, 18:44
Stay away from this girl. She is a rip off. I set up an appointment with her got to her place and couldn't and wouldn't touch her with a ten foot pole.

"BUSTY YOUNG BLONDE 5'7" + 130lbs. + 36D Available ANYTIME In or Out calls 24/7"

melowdowneasy
11-09-05, 20:00
Maybe we need another section like CL review for rft. I have never tryed any ads in the paper cause theres no pics. Way more ads than CL thats for sure.

Paces

That was a good post, thanks! Dont get alot of escort reviews on here.

Alex P Keaton
11-10-05, 20:15
This is my first posting. I do need some advise on how to give out info on the girls without giving to much info to Le. Any help would be good.

I recommend that you quote from or describe the girl's ad in the RFT. Then, interested readers can find it on their own.

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11-14-05, 20:51
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Peabody3000
11-15-05, 01:35
Is there any info on action in Cape Girardeau. I mean anything.

Chicagomax
11-15-05, 09:57
Here is a news story that aired last night, KMOV. I would say the most disturbing part is the mention at the end of the report that there are current local and federal investigations going on right now. It sounded like they were going after agency and not the local girls working on their own.

If I was using an agency, I do not, I would be worried. They bust the agency and they have your info and could be paying you a visit. No matter what the aganecys say or what the girls tell you they keep records on every guy they see. If you are not in a book, or on a computer or listed in a cell phone then they have online records about you they share.

Here is a perfect example. Molly (massage chick) kept a list of her clients. I know because when she left St Louis to go to Vegas she gave her list to another massage babe. I got a call fro the other women. When I asked her where she got the number she told me from Molly. I was pretty pissed off about that. When Molly got back she called me and wanted me to know she was back. That was fine cause we were friends. I asked her about the list ahd she said yea she did that and was pissed at the other women because she would not giver her list back.

Second example: Paul who use to be married to Madison kept record of everyone on his laptop. When he and Madison parted ways he started a new agency here in town. He knew from his records on me what type of women I liked and a coupe of times he called me to tell me who was coming to town. He told me he kept record because his clients appreciated the fact that he always knew what they liked.

Third point: I saw one of the KC girls a few times. During one visit to St Louis she mentioned that she had lost my cell number but was able to go on line and get it. I asked her what she was talking about and she showed me a website that the escorts used to exchange information on clients. I was shocked the amount of info on me. My physical description, the truck I drove, my work and cell number and what I did and the kind of sex I liked and what my session demeanor was like. I was shocked as hell by the info. This
was the same website the cops found when investigating the dude who was making films here in town. Remember him?

His angle was that you could visit his girls and you would be filmed and could keep the films. He tried to pass himself off as an adult film director. But he was busted anyway. The cops found that website I mentioned above and also found out that many of the police cell phone numbers were listed there as cell phone numbers the girls should avoid. This site was shut down.

But after reading lots of escort blogs and other sites over the last several months there are indications that these sites still are out there.

http://www.kmov.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=www.kmov.com/051114_kkaescorts.wmv

Chicagomax
11-15-05, 10:03
Which escort is it you think that is talking to KMOV reporter? It looks like the blonde who calls herself Topanga to me. I have seen her a few times and it sounds like her as well.

melowdowneasy
11-15-05, 11:44
Which escort is it you think that is talking to KMOV reporter? It looks like the blonde who calls herself Topanga to me. I have seen her a few times and it sounds like her as well.This sucks big time!

The so called meramac college student is "Ashlee" who said she has been on the net for a year,more like 3 yrs. Shes full of crap,6 grand a week! The main girl I have no idea. I would Like to meet her.lol. Looks like small tits so I dont think its Topango.

Vanity escorts is the one I would guess they want to nail. Have used them but not since august. Raised his rates on an average $ an hour. Now $$$ and a half an hour.

I was just thinking this the other day why local news hasnt aired a story on these terrible crimes being commited here in are great city.Cant a guy have a hobby. Was going to see a traveling girl this week, but now I'm out. Damn!!!!

Just put that money towards my Costa Rica trip in March.

whocaresIdo
11-15-05, 12:32
Here is a news story that aired last night, KMOV. I would say the most disturbing part is the mention at the end of the report that there are current local and federal investigations going on right now. It sounded like they were going after agency and not the local girls working on their own.

If I was using an agency, I do not, I would be worried. They bust the agency and they have your info and could be paying you a visit. No matter what the aganecys say or what the girls tell you they keep records on every guy they see. If you are not in a book, or on a computer or listed in a cell phone then they have online records about you they share.

Here is a perfect example. Maggie (massage chick) kept a list of her clients. I know because when she left St Louis to go to Vegas she gave her list to another massage babe. I got a call fro the other women. When I asked her where she got the number she told me from Maggie. I was pretty pissed off about that. When Maggie got back she called me and wanted me to know she was back. That was fine cause we were friends. I asked her about the list ahd she said yea she did that and was pissed at the other women because she would not giver her list back.

Second example: Paul who use to be married to Madison kept record of everyone on his laptop. When he and Madison parted ways he started a new agency here in town. He knew from his records on me what type of women I liked and a coupe of times he called me to tell me who was coming to town. He told me he kept record because his clients appreciated the fact that he always knew what they liked.

Third point: I saw one of the KC girls a few times. During one visit to St Louis she mentioned that she had lost my cell number but was able to go on line and get it. I asked her what she was talking about and she showed me a website that the escorts used to exchange information on clients. I was shocked the amount of info on me. My physical description, the truck I drove, my work and cell number and what I did and the kind of sex I liked and what my session demeanor was like. I was shocked as hell by the info. This
was the same website the cops found when investigating the dude who was making films here in town. Remember him?

His angle was that you could visit his girls and you would be filmed and could keep the films. He tried to pass himself off as an adult film director. But he was busted anyway. The cops found that website I mentioned above and also found out that many of the police cell phone numbers were listed there as cell phone numbers the girls should avoid. This site was shut down.

But after reading lots of escort blogs and other sites over the last several months there are indications that these sites still are out there.

http://www.kmov.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=www.kmov.com/051114_kkaescorts.wmvWhich Maggie are you talking about?

The one I know has not been to Vergas in years and she does not keep lists of any kind,and most girls I have talked to said the same thing,

Alex P Keaton
11-16-05, 00:25
The so called meramac college student is "Ashlee" who said she has been on the net for a year,more like 3 yrs. Shes full of crap,6 grand a week!

Ashlee's interview was great. Not only did she claim that she makes $6,500 per week now that Eros has a St. Louis site, but she also claimed that she earns it for 100% legal escorting with no sex involved. Ha!

He So Horney
11-16-05, 00:45
I responded to a CL post that said $65 incall special. I emailed her and asked if that included a happy ending. She said she liked happy endings. I replied I do too.

We emailed back and forth and I wasn't able to connect with her that night. Tonight on an impulse I decided to give her another try. She answered me right away and asked when I wanted to see her. I replied, "now, if you give me directions."

I took a quick shower while I waited for her reply and then about 20 minutes later heard back from her. She lives in Florissant in a townhouse. She gave me her phone number and I called her and she gave me some directions.

When I got close to where she lives I called her again and she got me to her doorstep with more directions.

I was able to park in front of her door so I wasn't nervous about being in a strange neighborhood at night.

Now a word about Ashley. She looked young to me, in her 20's. She's about 5"2", an African American with a pleasant looking face. I couldn't really tell her build with what she was wearing, but it wasn't fat from what I could see, and it wasn't thin either.

She led me downstairs to her lower level and there was a small mattress like pad on the floor. I undressed, put the money on a table, and then she had me lay down on my back.

Note: I only had 15 minutes because I had to get my business done and get back home before the wife returned. So I didn't try to slow things down if you know what I mean.

Ashley has small soft hands with nice fingernails. She uses a light touch and she began by massaging my legs, inner thighs and stomach. Then she poured oil over my balls and cock. I like a gentle touch in the beginning, and she was incredible. She squeezed my balls while gently moving her hand up and down my cock, and I must say, it was one of the best handjobs I've had in a long long time. She did not mind when I felt up her ass while she massaged me.

Whether she does more - I do not know. Those of you that have followed my reports know I rarely ask for more.

She gave me permission to give out her email address so pm me if you'd like to give her a try.

My suggestion is that you establish the length of the session before you go - I mentioned to her that most guys will expect to be there longer than I was, that I was in a hurry tonight and she said that was no problem.

She has a very nice personality, and seems to enjoy what she does.

I will go back to her again soon - it was that good for me.

Please note - this is a different Ashley from the one previously quoted in that news article.

He So Horney

Sincere2787
11-16-05, 06:11
Ashlee's interview was great. Not only did she claim that she makes $6,500 per week now that Eros has a St. Louis site, but she also claimed that she earns it for 100% legal escorting with no sex involved. Ha!Yes, the girl interviewed was definitely Ashlee. By the way, for whomever was asking below, Ashlee is indeed the girl known as Amie/Madilyn, the pictures and the voice are a dead giveaway. So yes, she's been around for 3 years, she disappears for a while, then reappears under a new name and starts off with one of her friends giving her a stellar review. The friend may be the one denying that Ashlee was Amie/Madilyn, as there seems to be only one reliable person who has had a great time with her.

If her MO holds up, she'll disappear again, reappear in a few months with a new name. She's not a ROB, but if my experience is like that of many other reputable posters, I would say either YMMV applies here more than most, or that the one reliable person knows her. I would love to hear from more people who have had a great time with her, if they're around.

Sorry for hijacking this.

He So Horney
11-16-05, 09:40
I meant that the Ashlee of your report is not the same as the Ashley of my report. Sorry if I didn't communicate that clearly.

melowdowneasy
11-16-05, 11:52
Ashlee was my first provider experience when she went by "Amie" have not seen her since. I did see her 3 times!After I split with my ex I wanted to put her behind me as soon as possible,found nothing but a bunch of scanks on the net and Amie looked the best to me,mostly at the time because of her age (19). I being married for 15 yrs I didnt think it was possible to be with such a young girl,so I e mailed her. I saw her 1 time for 1 hr and then 2 times for 2 hrs. Recently I have tryed 3 times to meet with her and I get an email from her to call her then no reply. I think I will give up on her.

Her best asset is her ass!! It is the best ass in the whole world, small yet firm and plump. I could not keep my hands off that small firm ass!!! If your an assman this is the girl to see. Other then that,shes pretty bad, no kiss,bbbj but not to good just kinda lolly pops it and then tosses her hair back and then a 10 sec lollypop and another hair toss. Disconnects herself during the deed and just lays there. If you turn her on and she gets near the golden gate she will buck wildly and kiss a little that was always good.And a real turn on.

Now for the real reason imho why people talk good about her and why a guy below said he was going to come back to town to see her. She barebacks.
I dont want to start a fire storm with this. I did and it was the last time I did(well 1 other time this summer in wichita ks with a 20 yr old blonde,condom came off and she said I didnt need to put it back on, it was a real hot session and the blood was out of my thinkin head). She has a base of clients and I bet at least some of them are doing it. Maybe this is why see stops with 1 name takes down all her reviews changes names and starts again. Maybe everybody starts asking for it.

I would see her again just to play with that great,great ass!!!!! I'm not kiddin,its the best!!!!! Shes a sweet girl next door type too.

I now use the "durex advanti" condom best condom in the world!!!.Not made of latex. Instant heat transfer,made a little larger than other condoms. You kinda slide around inside of it. That with the heat transfer,every time I have pulled out and looked down to see if it is still on,they are that sensitive!!!! You have to be carefull with this condom,They can come off(ie Wichita )but it is the best condom out there,highly recommend!

Chicagomax
11-16-05, 19:01
Yes, the girl interviewed was definitely Ashlee. By the way, for whomever was asking below, Ashlee is indeed the girl known as Amie/Madilyn, the pictures and the voice are a dead giveaway. So yes, she's been around for 3 years, she disappears for a while, then reappears under a new name and starts off with one of her friends giving her a stellar review. The friend may be the one denying that Ashlee was Amie/Madilyn, as there seems to be only one reliable person who has had a great time with her.

If her MO holds up, she'll disappear again, reappear in a few months with a new name. She's not a ROB, but if my experience is like that of many other reputable posters, I would say either YMMV applies here more than most, or that the one reliable person knows her. I would love to hear from more people who have had a great time with her, if they're around.

Sorry for hijacking this.

Is that the same Amie that a couple of years ago was 19, very thin, very small breasts? She disappeared and then came back a few months later under a different name, that I do not remember at this time.

Alex P Keaton
11-16-05, 19:29
Is that the same Amie that a couple of years ago was 19, very thin, very small breasts? She disappeared and then came back a few months later under a different name, that I do not remember at this time.

Yes. Get the link to her website off of Eros, click to access the photo gallery, and you'll see.

Blond Escort
11-16-05, 23:37
This sucks big time!

The so called meramac college student is "Ashlee" who said she has been on the net for a year,more like 3 yrs. Shes full of crap,6 grand a week! The main girl I have no idea. I would Like to meet her.lol. Looks like small tits so I dont think its Topango.

Vanity escorts is the one I would guess they want to nail. Have used them but not since august. Raised his rates on an average $ an hour. Now $$$ and a half an hour.

I was just thinking this the other day why local news hasnt aired a story on these terrible crimes being commited here in are great city.Cant a guy have a hobby. Was going to see a traveling girl this week, but now I'm out. Damn!!!!

Just put that money towards my Costa Rica trip in March.It's definitely not Topanga in the shadow. Here's why. Topanga was contacted via email but never even responded to the email that was sent to her. Topanga values her privacy as well as others. Also, the escort was VISITING (not a local - she travels in 6 hours from a small town) - makes $250 an hour (Topanga charges more) and does only incall (T does both) The interview had a more raspy voice and the lady looked older and was not as curvaceous as Topanga.

The other one was Ashlee AKA Amy AKA Madilyn Elizabeth. That one was too easy.

BowHuntMopar
11-17-05, 02:35
I met Ashlee last week. She is 21 years old, has a petite but HARD body, face like the girl next door. I had her put on some thigh highs & black heels and I TORE that kitten up. Incredible session with perspiration all over the bedsheets. Obviously, your mileage may vary, but I treated her with the utmost respect during the entire session since I want to be a regular customer again.

He So Horney
11-17-05, 08:46
hi my name is aj and am having a lingerie and stripshow on nov 19, and it will be free food and the bar will be available to buy drinks the tickets are $10 in advance and $15 at the door, it will be at creative image that located on W.florissant jenning station rd

I received this info after emailing on an ad I saw posted on CL. Anybody planning on attending? Since all of the ladies involved are probably escorts (and what have you) I imagine there might be possibilities extending beyond the show.

He So Horney
11-17-05, 09:04
I saw this in the RFT and wondered if anyone here tried it or contacted them for details:

TWO COLLEGE STUDENTS TO COME TO YOUR HOME AND CLEAN YOUR HOUSE IN THE NUDE EXPERIENCED AND CUTE CALL 573-230-6878

Chicagomax
11-17-05, 10:18
hi my name is aj and am having a lingerie and stripshow on nov 19, and it will be free food and the bar will be available to buy drinks the tickets are $10 in advance and $15 at the door, it will be at creative image that located on W.florissant jenning station rd

I received this info after emailing on an ad I saw posted on CL. Anybody planning on attending? Since all of the ladies involved are probably escorts (and what have you) I imagine there might be possibilities extending beyond the show.

I believe that area of St Louis is pretty bad area. I think it is the part of north city that there are lot of shootings and the gangs control that part as well. Probably why the crime rate in north city is so high.

Besides I would never go to a party like that. If I was married I would want to keep my dealings with the local gals as quite as possible to avoid detection of my identity. AT least when you deal with a local girl over and over you sorta get to know whom she is but at a party like that you do nt know these people and it coud go very very bad,

brwnilvr
11-17-05, 20:53
I had one dealing with AJ and that was to many. I would suggest avoiding anything to do with her.

Alex P Keaton
11-17-05, 23:37
I saw this in the RFT and wondered if anyone here tried it or contacted them for details:

TWO COLLEGE STUDENTS TO COME TO YOUR HOME AND CLEAN YOUR HOUSE IN THE NUDE EXPERIENCED AND CUTE CALL 573-230-6878

No, but a friend of mine who is a former dancer at clubs in Washington Park and Brooklyn is now offering nude maid services. She's 20, tall, thin, and white. She will thoroughly clean your house while posing provocatively for you. You may not touch her, and she will not touch you, but you are welcome to touch yourself. Her first available appointments are in December. You can PM me if you'd like to arrange something.

Alex P Keaton
11-17-05, 23:39
I met Ashlee last week. She is 21 years old, has a petite but HARD body, face like the girl next door. I had her put on some thigh highs & black heels and I TORE that kitten up. Incredible session with perspiration all over the bedsheets. Obviously, your mileage may vary, but I treated her with the utmost respect during the entire session since I want to be a regular customer again.

Her prices went up from her Madilyn Elizabeth period to her current Ashlee period. Did you pay the $250 incall/$300 outcall she asks for, or did you get a discount?

Dwdstl
11-18-05, 15:16
Is there any consistent street action anymore in St. Louis or has it all moved to the internet providers? A guy needs a little car sex every once in a while.

melowdowneasy
11-18-05, 18:07
Saw a girl who post on the CL "sweet and sexie asian 24" "Asian hottie".

Highly, highly recommend! GFE to the max! So good I will see only her. Well will see. lol May post more info in CL section.

Toshiosamma
11-19-05, 00:32
I'm planning a visit to St Louis soon and want to find the AMPs in the area. Any advice? What not to miss, what to avoid?

He So Horney
11-19-05, 15:43
A while ago I finished a session with Sharon and being a friend of hers felt I could offer her some suggestions to make the session more sensual/erotic and less therapeutic since that's what I am mostly interested in.

I emailed her with some specifics, and suggested more direct contact with the "goodies", etc, and a little bit sooner in the massage.

Today I had an appointment with her, and she really listened to what I offered and she gave me the best erotic massage she's ever done for me. It was perfect! Really had me twitching with anticipation.

As before I highly recommend her and will be happy to give contact information to anyone who doesn't already have it. I only ask that you be a gentleman. She doesn't not offer FS, but if you're satisfied with an extremely arousing erotic massage with happy ending, you can't go wrong with her.

He So Horney

BowHuntMopar
11-19-05, 22:19
I, too, saw SCARLETT, the 24 year old ASIAN that advertises daily on CL. INCREDIBLE GFE!!!! She is Philpino with beautiful eyes and a awesome tan. Only drawback is that I have bigger breasts than she has. Other than that, she's a SWEET GIRL!!! She allows you to COF!!!! PEARL NECKLACE!!!

melowdowneasy
11-20-05, 11:47
I, too, saw SCARLETT, the 24 year old ASIAN that advertises daily on CL. INCREDIBLE GFE!!!! She is Philpino with beautiful eyes and a awesome tan. Only drawback is that I have bigger breasts than she has. Other than that, she's a SWEET GIRL!!! She allows you to COF!!!! PEARL NECKLACE!!!I have never seen "Nadine" but I have read her reviews. My guess is Scarlett is right up there with Nadine!

brwnilvr
11-20-05, 12:49
Wow Scarlett came to see me for my Birthday present and was it ever a great one. She is a true GFE and is super responsive to everything. She did say everything must be covered, no greek, no COF never ever. Would highly recommend she will rock your world.

BowHuntMopar
11-21-05, 01:37
Scarlett apparently reads this forum & e-mailed to b!tch at me about the COF comment, but I could have swore that she asked me if I wanted to do that (perhaps it was a comment made during the heat of passion) & I declined however I did keep that comment in my memory banks.

Scarlett --- Sorry, I apologize for making that comment!!!

Gentlemen --- Please do not ask her about COF. You must use a raincoat for her & your protection.

Jason is Here
11-21-05, 15:36
Was Wondering If Any One Has Seen "megan" Girl Advertised In The Rft. She Charges $200 For Fs 1hr. The Girl That Answers The Phone For Megan Is Katie...and She Claims That She Is The Best Looking Escort In Stl. She Is Around 40 And Mccausland. I Am Not Sure If This Is The Same Girl That Went By Amy 6 Months Back. But Amy The Girl That I Saw Was Great. She Charged 225 But Was Really Good. Please Provide Info If Anyone Has Seen Megan.

Thanks,

Jason

Hi,

I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...

Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

Jackson

Sincere2787
11-22-05, 00:40
Clayton from the Capitan's vanityescorts seems too good to be true. Her review on that other site is from a "new" user. Has anyone seen her? Is she GFE? Does she offer DFK? $$$1/2 is pretty steep.

Chicagomax
11-22-05, 03:20
I get an email tonight and it had this url http://www.geocities.com/cleanupstlouis/

So I take a look and it some group here in town called Clean Up St Louis and they are going to out escorts and johns. In fact their escort of the week is Maggie and they claim they are going to have pics of the johns cars picking up sw's in knows sw areas.....hhhhmmmm..for real or fake?

Fred Reed
11-22-05, 07:50
I get an email tonight and it had this url http://www.geocities.com/cleanupstlouis/

So I take a look and it some group here in town called Clean Up St Louis and they are going to out escorts and johns. In fact their escort of the week is Maggie and they claim they are going to have pics of the johns cars picking up sw's in knows sw areas.....hhhhmmmm..for real or fake?

These folks need a hobby Max!

If they are not LE they could be charged with invasion of privacy and stalking if they photograph us in a public place without our permission.

Fred

Chicagomax
11-22-05, 09:27
I thought so as well. But I did a little checking and from what I can read it is perfectly legal for them to do what they are doing. Revealing escorts is not illegal and neither is taking pictures of a guys car and posting it.

Chicagomax
11-22-05, 09:36
I will bet this is the same group I posted about several weeks back.

He So Horney
11-22-05, 14:13
I had a second appointment this morning with the Ashley I posted about last week.

This time she did the massage topless. I was on my back at first and she started with her T-shirt on. When it came time for me to flip over, she said, "Take a look at these", and I turned and I think my jaw dropped. They're pretty big. She let me play with them during the second half of the massage.

Today I asked her how old she was and she said "25". She enjoys what she does and tries to vary her strokes when she gets to the good part. She seems eager to please and I have enjoyed both sessions with her.

He So Horney

whocaresIdo
11-22-05, 17:25
These folks need a hobby Max!

If they are not LE they could be charged with invasion of privacy and stalking if they photograph us in a public place without our permission.

FredIt is sad time when a lady are ladies have to go thur the bull some people put them thur.There is a way to get trash like that deleted and that is by e-mailing yahoo about the abuse.

You are so right they need a real HOBBY.

Chicagomax
11-22-05, 19:10
Anyone can sue anyone for anything. What matters is finding a lawyer who will take it and a court that will hear the case. I did some research with a lawyer buddy of mine today and he said there is very little that can be done to stop these people.

He said anytime a person or group exposes an illegal activity they are considered heros by most people. He was saying that no jury in the world would find them guilty of anything. His case in point is that right now there are several websites like this, through-out the country. All of them work well and are legal to run.

He was telling me about a group that pretends to be children in chat rooms to trap guys looking for little kids to have sex with. They get all the personal info they can on these guys, including their pics and then post it on their website for everyone to see. You would think this would be entrapment and illegal to do but it is not. This group got sued and won in court.

Most of these groups use public information that can be found on the internet. Most pics and info is not copywrited so in can be used and is considered public domain.

He told me much more but I do not want to put you all to sleep.

melowdowneasy
11-22-05, 22:56
Clayton from the Capitan's vanityescorts seems too good to be true. Her review on that other site is from a "new" user. Has anyone seen her? Is she GFE? Does she offer DFK? $$$1/2 is pretty steep.I have not seen her,but if "el capitan" says "trust me on this one" you can!!! Have not seen any of his providers for awhile. Not sure what his recent rate increases are all about.Greed maybe. Getting way, way to high.Hell of a nice guy. You can get a travlin bombshell for less!!

The good captain deals with nothin but GFE's--except Angel but still she is a great girl to see. Sasha is a very good choice for a great GFE. Cherokee who was with him and today posted on the CL is a mindblower!!!! Combo GFE-PSE.Highly ,highly recommend her. My legs were sore for 2 days.

Fred Reed
11-23-05, 08:33
He said anytime a person or group exposes an illegal activity they are considered heros by most people. He was saying that no jury in the world would find them guilty of anything. His case in point is that right now there are several websites like this, through-out the country. All of them work well and are legal to run.


How could this group prove that a monger was involved in prostitution if they can't see money changing hands, hear the conversation or see you having sex?

I gave a ride to a cute girl near Granite City who told me that she ran out of gas. I drove her to her house to pick up a gas can then drove her to her car. I did not know until several weeks later that she was a "known" street walker. Just imagine if this Cleanup group had photographed a guy just trying to help a girl out when he picked her up.

By the way, the girl I picked up was Angie a.k.a. Slim who is mentioned in the Brooklynn posts earlier this year.

Fred

Chicagomax
11-24-05, 01:23
Does anyone have any interest in this whole Clean Up St Louis group or is it just me? I find it fascinating that a person or group would take on such a task and that they really think that can make any kind of dent.

Then I read this .....http://www.the************.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=162900&boardID=12&page=1 (the erotic review)

Wow there are some real upset people on there. Does anyone here think this task can even be remotely succesful?

I put that question on some legal boards I read from time to time and the answers I got were pretty one sided. All most all of the lawyers agreed that this can be sucessful and has worked in other cities.

Just a thought. I will probably not post any more about this as I think it is not the place.

Chicagomax
11-24-05, 01:26
I was right about one think though. Lacy and Maggie are not the same person. Somone did email me though and say that Maggie/Sunny/Cece Constantain are the same person and best to be avoided. Does anyone else agree with this?

Chicagomax
11-24-05, 01:34
How could this group prove that a monger was involved in prostitution if they can't see money changing hands, hear the conversation or see you having sex?

I gave a ride to a cute girl near Granite City who told me that she ran out of gas. I drove her to her house to pick up a gas can then drove her to her car. I did not know until several weeks later that she was a "known" street walker. Just imagine if this Cleanup group had photographed a guy just trying to help a girl out when he picked her up.

By the way, the girl I picked up was Angie a.k.a. Slim who is mentioned in the Brooklynn posts earlier this year.

Fred

Fred I am not sure how to answer that. Did you see my post about the website that was posting the pics of guys trolling for kids? They get away with it. I read an article some time ago about I think Peoria,IL had a neighborhood watch group that was posting the license plates of cars that wee cruising their neighborhood for sw's. It killed the street business in that area.

I do know that if the information is within the public domain then it can be reprinted with no problems. That would include stuff like addresses, phone numbers, names, email address etc etc etc. As long as someone does not break in to someones house for the info or run an illeglal credit check then it is all fair game. That is one reason why I have have tried to live a clean life.....lol..

Chicagomax
11-24-05, 01:35
I had a second appointment this morning with the Ashley I posted about last week.

This time she did the massage topless. I was on my back at first and she started with her T-shirt on. When it came time for me to flip over, she said, "Take a look at these", and I turned and I think my jaw dropped. They're pretty big. She let me play with them during the second half of the massage.

Today I asked her how old she was and she said "25". She enjoys what she does and tries to vary her strokes when she gets to the good part. She seems eager to please and I have enjoyed both sessions with her.

He So Horney\\


Hey He So how would you rate these other massage gals in comparison to Molly. (I assume she is still around)

whocaresIdo
11-24-05, 03:13
I was right about one think though. Lacy and Maggie are not the same person. Somone did email me though and say that Maggie/Sunny/Cece Constantain are the same person and best to be avoided. Does anyone else agree with this?Well Maggies reviews are good,I have only read one bad one. And if you really read the boards Sunny died about a year ago.

He So Horney
11-24-05, 09:28
For all round sex arousal both in the looks dept. and foreplay, I would still rate Molly as the best in her price range (under $100) if you take the personal chatter out of the evaluation.

I haven't seen her in a long long time, but the next time I do I am going to be honest with her and tell her that while sharing personal details creates more intimacy between masseuse and client, it's also counter-productive to the escape that I and I suspect most of you seek when you see a masseuse. When I'm on that table I just want to focus on the eroticism of the moment and not have my mind filled with images of stressful situations in someone else's life.

Ashley is less of a masseuse and more of a skilled sex worker in that her focus is primarily in getting you hard and then off. I enjoyed how she did that on both of my visits to her. My only negative observation is that the sessions were somewhat brief, although she did spend more time on my second visit, and maybe if I had talked more about my expectations in the negotiation phase that would have been better. She's a nice young lady that doesn't mind being touched during the massage.

Sharon is a really nice lady, totally genuine, and now that I've shared some of my concerns with her, the tease aspect of the massage has greatly improved.

I also enjoy Sue in Imperial - no comparison in looks to Molly, but great hands and eager to please. I have no negatives to offer in terms of her massage technique - she always gets me rock hard and does a tremendous job with the final release. I like her. Because of some bad experiences she now only takes incall from established clients, but will do outcall if you can host. She does not want referrals from the Internet (also had some problems with that) but she regularly advertises in the RFT with the heading: Hot Lotion

Debbie in St. Charles is another nice lady. Again, not as physically attractive perhaps as Molly, but pleasant looking, and a woman who definitely enjoys what she does, and one of the few in her price range that offers FS.

Those are all masseuses that I have seen 2 or more times.

Stay Alert
11-24-05, 22:38
I was right about one think though. Lacy and Maggie are not the same person. Somone did email me though and say that Maggie/Sunny/Cece Constantain are the same person and best to be avoided. Does anyone else agree with this?Yes, I agree with this.

Jason is Here
11-25-05, 08:01
Hey Everyone,

Does Anyone Know The Girl Megan Advertised In The Rft For Incalls Around 40/mccausland? She Charges $200 For The Hr. I Am Wondering If She Is The Same Girl That Went By Amy 3-4 Months Ago. If She Is Amy She Was Really Good For The Price. She Had A Great Body And A Perfect 10 Looks. Any Info On Her Would Be Helpful.

Thanks Guys. Play It Safe.

Jason

Hi,

I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...

Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

Jackson

He So Horney
11-25-05, 09:48
Forgive my introduction of a slightly off topic query but I posted on the Las Vegas board and no one responded there. I feel there are kindred spirits here and perhaps someone has had a good experience in Las Vegas.

I am going in January and what I had asked the Las Vegas guys was if anyone had success using CL in Las Vegas. From my research it looks like the only women in my usual budget range are SW's. The AMPS there all appear to be over-priced compared to what we have here or at least compared to the incall providers I post about.

But there are a few Las Vegas CL ads (just a few) under $100.

One I may try to check out is an older woman (near my age) that offers a 2 hour tantric massage for just $100. She has a 38 year old neice that is supposed to be very attractive that offers the same thing for $200.

Anyway, if anyone knows of someone in Las Vegas worth visiting let me know. Again, I apologize for this departure from our usual local topic focus. I will be with family so incall is my only option.

He So Horney

He So Horney
11-25-05, 09:58
I was right about one think though. Lacy and Maggie are not the same person. Somone did email me though and say that Maggie/Sunny/Cece Constantain are the same person and best to be avoided. Does anyone else agree with this?


A few years back I booked an incall appointment with a blonde that called herself "Sunny". At the time she worked out of a room at the Congress Inn on Lindbergh.

It was one of the worst experiences of my life - she greeted me at the door with a towel wrapped around her head and wearing a bathroom - obviously just getting out of the shower (okay that's a plus but the story goes downhill from there).

I found her to be unattractive and the room smelled awful. Just how horny do you have to be to want to get your nuts off in a situation like that? I found out - apparently I was just that horny because I went ahead with the appointment.

For $75 she gave me a handjob, which may have lasted all of 5-10 minutes and that was it.

When I left I looked down at my cock and asked, "How could you do this to me, after all we've been through together?" My cock said, "Hey, don't complain - I'm the one she touched". Good point.

I don't know if the "Sunny" I saw is the same "Sunny" you reference Max as also being "Maggie" - I've run across a few providers who use that and also "Goldie" (I think there is an attractive Goldie and an unattractive Goldie).

He So Horney

Blue Sterling
11-25-05, 13:00
A few years back I booked an incall appointment with a blonde that called herself "Sunny". At the time she worked out of a room at the Congress Inn on Lindbergh......

When I left I looked down at my cock and asked, "How could you do this to me, after all we've been through together?" My cock said, "Hey, don't complain - I'm the one she touched". Good point.

He So Horney

That was funny!

From this board & from others, the overwhealming evidence is that Maggie = Sunny = Cece = Kiki = a time not enjoyed by many. In fact, in my review of this board only 1 person has provided a favorable review of this provider. Only one.

Bandit69
11-25-05, 15:05
Did anyone go?

Just wondering.

whocaresIdo
11-25-05, 16:16
That was funny!

From this board & from others, the overwhealming evidence is that Maggie = Sunny = Cece = Kiki = a time not enjoyed by many. In fact, in my review of this board only 1 person has provided a favorable review of this provider. Only one.Why does anyone give a shit,what has this lady done to any of you,she is so low key.Have you all have nothing better to do than dog some lady.First off Maggie cannot Sunny because she died well over a year ago.Can one of you give a reason for what you are doing.And by the way Maggie does have great reviews.Maybe the one are two bad reviews is because maybe she not having a good day are maybe you were having a bad day.Lets more one to something else.

He So Horney
11-25-05, 18:03
That was funny!

From this board & from others, the overwhealming evidence is that Maggie = Sunny = Cece = Kiki = a time not enjoyed by many. In fact, in my review of this board only 1 person has provided a favorable review of this provider. Only one.

After my post I received this in my hesohorney email from Maggie aka Sunny aka Cece aka Kiki aka Foo Foo aka Tickle Tickle Ha Ha aka Stencharoni (not the San Francisco Treat!)

"I am sorry I would not see you if you were the last person on earth,you are a rude dirty old man who just wants it for free and you are never happy with anyone,the way you post about us ladies is uncalled for.This one is fat,this one is ugly this one smells.You and the rest of your friends on USA
need to learn to be a little nicer.Because with you no lady is good enough.You are a cheap sob
and print that in your reviews,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,amd you all think you know it all"

The truth is I am frequently happy with the ladies I see, and have been offered "freebies" that for the most part I have turned down (with one exception).

Be advised fellow mongers that your posts are being read by those who are on the low end of the food chain (there goes the neighborhood!).

And for the record I haven't posted that this one is fat, this one is ugly, and this one smells - I posted that one lady possessed all of those traits, and those were her good points! Okay, don't get me started...

Let me give you some advice Maggie - when your IQ reaches 12 - SELL!

Chicagomax
11-25-05, 21:17
After my post I received this in my hesohorney email from Maggie aka Sunny aka Cece aka Kiki aka Foo Foo aka Tickle Tickle Ha Ha aka Stencharoni (not the San Francisco Treat!)

"I am sorry I would not see you if you were the last person on earth,you are a rude dirty old man who just wants it for free and you are never happy with anyone,the way you post about us ladies is uncalled for.This one is fat,this one is ugly this one smells.You and the rest of your friends on USA
need to learn to be a little nicer.Because with you no lady is good enough.You are a cheap sob
and print that in your reviews,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,amd you all think you know it all"

The truth is I am frequently happy with the ladies I see, and have been offered "freebies" that for the most part I have turned down (with one exception).

Be advised fellow mongers that your posts are being read by those who are on the low end of the food chain (there goes the neighborhood!).

And for the record I haven't posted that this one is fat, this one is ugly, and this one smells - I posted that one lady possessed all of those traits, and those were her good points! Okay, don't get me started...

Let me give you some advice Maggie - when your IQ reaches 12 - SELL!

He so I had to laugh when I read your post. Maggie aka CeCe Constantian aka Sunny and her boyfriend whocaresIdo have sent me lots of emails. everyone of them nastier than the last.
I have had lots of post from other members here telling me some real horror stories about Maggie. I do know it was one of the worst expereinces of my life when I saw her...lol...yes I noticed the smell as well.

I am not sure what the deal is with these two but when I get a chance later I will post all of their emails to me so you all can see for yourself.

Quick note: There has been a lot of chatter about Maggie on many of the boards. IE TER

Chicagomax
11-25-05, 21:18
"After my post I received this in my hesohorney email from Maggie aka Sunny aka Cece aka Kiki aka Foo Foo aka Tickle Tickle Ha Ha aka Stencharoni (not the San Francisco Treat!)"

I must have laughed for 10 minutes after reading that....very funny

Tororojo
11-26-05, 17:43
Visited Ashley recently ( $65 massage + happy ) and was mildly satisfied.

Like HeSo reported, found a mat on the basement floor in a townhouse in Spanih Lake.

Ashley is a young,good-looking black girl with big tits. Very nice personality and mediocre massage skills.

The flip was 5 min. into it and the ending was quite good. About 20-25 min. total.

She does allow fondling.

HeSo,

I am on the same quest as you: incall massage with happy ending for a good price.

So far, Sherry is the best I've found.

Big KC
11-26-05, 20:16
Heso,

Thank you for all of your post. I have been to Vegas many times. It can be like a hookers mall. Like all malls there is great selection, but high prices. You may want to try the amp's. Check the adds in one of the local papers and find a amp that is working from an apartment, but be careful.

He So Horney
11-26-05, 21:57
This was on CL:

TIRED OF TURKEY WELL TRY SOMETHING NEW 44E BREASTED FEMALE IF YOUR IN A RUSH DONT HAVE ALOT OF TIME LOOKING 4 A QUICKIE!!! THEN CALL

H*ND ONLY= $50.00 H*ND and OR*L SATISFACTION= $75.00
till the end of Nov only Call MI-MI *82 (314) 374-6866

Now there's a woman who is realistic in her price points...

I have uploaded the boobalicious picture she provided. If anyone tries her please let us know how it was - I've expended my ho budget for the year.

Chicagomax
11-27-05, 02:44
This was on CL:

TIRED OF TURKEY WELL TRY SOMETHING NEW 44E BREASTED FEMALE IF YOUR IN A RUSH DONT HAVE ALOT OF TIME LOOKING 4 A QUICKIE!!! THEN CALL

H*ND ONLY= $50.00 H*ND and OR*L SATISFACTION= $75.00
till the end of Nov only Call MI-MI *82 (314) 374-6866

Now there's a woman who is realistic in her price points...

I have uploaded the boobalicious picture she provided. If anyone tries her please let us know how it was - I've expended my ho budget for the year.

She has posted several posts on CL and in her other photos she is a major pig. I am just warning you that unless you are in to huge gals you may want to steer clear of this one.

BowHuntMopar
11-27-05, 11:06
When a woman advertises huge breasts like 44E cups, it takes a lot to carry around a set of 44E's. That's the hint to avoid Miss Piggy.

Phuqued
11-27-05, 23:21
This was on CL:

TIRED OF TURKEY WELL TRY SOMETHING NEW 44E BREASTED FEMALE IF YOUR IN A RUSH DONT HAVE ALOT OF TIME LOOKING 4 A QUICKIE!!! THEN CALL

H*ND ONLY= $50.00 H*ND and OR*L SATISFACTION= $75.00
till the end of Nov only Call MI-MI *82 (314) 374-6866

Now there's a woman who is realistic in her price points.

I have uploaded the boobalicious picture she provided. If anyone tries her please let us know how it was - I've expended my ho budget for the year.He So Horney:

Fortunately, the year is almost over (unless you mean fiscal year)!

I will be in St. Louis in a couple of months and will check the board before my trip. I have good memories of two or three ladies that you recommended.

Best,

Jiggs

Bill Bradsky
11-27-05, 23:51
This was on CL:

TIRED OF TURKEY WELL TRY SOMETHING NEW 44E BREASTED FEMALE IF YOUR IN A RUSH DONT HAVE ALOT OF TIME LOOKING 4 A QUICKIE!!! THEN CALL

H*ND ONLY= $50.00 H*ND and OR*L SATISFACTION= $75.00
till the end of Nov only Call MI-MI *82 (314) 374-6866

Now there's a woman who is realistic in her price points...

I have uploaded the boobalicious picture she provided. If anyone tries her please let us know how it was - I've expended my ho budget for the year.

HeSo,

Copy and paste the above area code and phone number into Google and do a search on it. It will lead to multiple links (it is an agency number) and eventually to the fat girl that likely belongs to that chest picture.

Using Google to search a number is always recommended to see it you are calling an agency or an independent.

Monger on,

BB

He So Horney
11-28-05, 08:31
You're right! She goes by Sheora. Sorry guys, if I had known more about her I wouldn't have posted the lead. When they use a bunch of aliases and jump from state to state you have to wonder what's up?




HeSo,

Copy and paste the above area code and phone number into Google and do a search on it. It will lead to multiple links (it is an agency number) and eventually to the fat girl that likely belongs to that chest picture.

Using Google to search a number is always recommended to see it you are calling an agency or an independent.

Monger on,

BB

Dryerguy
11-28-05, 12:51
This was on CL:

TIRED OF TURKEY WELL TRY SOMETHING NEW 44E BREASTED FEMALE IF YOUR IN A RUSH DONT HAVE ALOT OF TIME LOOKING 4 A QUICKIE!!! THEN CALL

H*ND ONLY= $50.00 H*ND and OR*L SATISFACTION= $75.00
till the end of Nov only Call MI-MI *82 (314) 374-6866

Now there's a woman who is realistic in her price points.

I have uploaded the boobalicious picture she provided. If anyone tries her please let us know how it was - I've expended my ho budget for the year.I would agree with other posters about Googling the number first, ESPECIALLY those numbers that are posted on CL. You can learn quite a bit. In addition, keep an eye out on other CL cities, and look for a) identical pictures, or b) changing names. This can be a tell-tale clue about whether the posting is legit or not. Do your homework first.

He So Horney
11-28-05, 17:45
I just logged off of CL and there are posts about Max Here - I don't know why, but some radical "do-gooder" supposedly representing a group intent on cleaning up the city of all providers and their clients has him in their sights. They have very personal info in their post and claim to have "outed him".

Should we take this person seriously? How would they secure personal info on anyone?

He So Horney

Chicagomax
11-28-05, 18:06
He So I got a call a few minutes ago from a friend of mine who hangs out on CL alot. He told me my screen name here was being used with some guys name. I went to check it out and it was gone....it had been deleted.

I was told the name, I do not know who it is but I sure feel sorry for that guy cause it mentioned a womans name too who could be his wife.

Anyway, I have not lived in St Louis in over a year. But I am here about every week becuse of my business. The funny part is I have never been married....Hope I never make that mistake.

I am not sure what the idea is behind this but two members on here have warned me about Maggie. They said she is a very evil woman. So I will look further into this and see.

He So Horney
11-28-05, 21:12
I went back there and you're right - that post is gone. I am glad to hear that it was either a bluff or mistaken identity.

He So Horney




He So I got a call a few minutes ago from a friend of mine who hangs out on CL alot. He told me my screen name here was being used with some guys name. I went to check it out and it was gone....it had been deleted.

I was told the name, I do not know who it is but I sure feel sorry for that guy cause it mentioned a womans name too who could be his wife.

Anyway, I have not lived in St Louis in over a year. But I am here about every week becuse of my business. The funny part is I have never been married....Hope I never make that mistake.

I am not sure what the idea is behind this but two members on here have warned me about Maggie. They said she is a very evil woman. So I will look further into this and see.

Chicagomax
11-28-05, 21:58
I went back there and you're right - that post is gone. I am glad to hear that it was either a bluff or mistaken identity.

He So Horney

I feel real sorry for the dude they mentioned. That dude should be left alone. I do not think it is a bluff though. The problem is that when you start something like this it can escalate into much more.

Anyway..lol...I will still be posting here. Several senior members do know who I am,,,,lol....They got a good laugh to until thay saw some innocent dude was named....that is a real shame....at least get your facts straight before you try and destroy someone

Whatadude
11-28-05, 22:18
I feel real sorry for the dude they mentioned. That dude should be left alone. I do not think it is a bluff though. The problem is that when you start something like this it can escalate into much more.

Anyway. LOL. I will still be posting here. Several senior memebers do now who I am, LOL. They got a good laugh to until thay saw some innocent dude was named. That is a real shame. At least get your facts straight before you try and destroy someoneLook at backpage

Chicagomax
11-29-05, 08:58
After some further searching on this last topic I felt I needed to post again. I found over 7 references to myself and another guy. It looks like some people are out to get somebody. I found this very damaging link this morning.
http://myweb.ecomplanet.com/WEAR8024/

It looks like someone is trying to link some poor guy and me together. I did a google search on Max Here and it looks like at one time this poor guy had somekind of an email site named after his child. So in some hateful and disgusting revenge thing these people have taken a huge leap of logic and decided that we must be one in the same.

I feel very sorry for this guy and since they put his name out there and his wifes name I am going to call him this morning and let him know he is being libeled on the internet. I am also going to send him all the posts I have gotten from Maggie and Whocares in case he desides to sue. (it is my guess they may be the same person)

I mentioned sometime back in several posts about the danger of some of these crazy escorts. I have also been warned by several fellow senior members about Maggie.

It is very disturbing and digusting that people would stoop to such lowlife actions. It is even more disturbing that they would just try and ruin some guys reputation.

Yes my name is Max..lol...and no I am not married or this poor guy mentioned above.

Blue Sterling
11-29-05, 09:43
After some further searching on this last topic I felt I needed to post again. I found over 7 references to myself and another guy. It looks like some people are out to get somebody. I found this very damaging link this morning.
Link Deleted to Respect His Privacy

It looks like someone is trying to link some poor guy and me together. I did a google search on Max Here and it looks like at one time this poor guy had somekind of an email site named after his child. So in some hateful and disgusting revenge thing these people have taken a huge leap of logic and decided that we must be one in the same.

I feel very sorry for this guy and since they put his name out there and his wifes name I am going to call him this morning and let him know he is being libeled on the internet. I am also going to send him all the posts I have gotten from Maggie and Whocares in case he desides to sue. (it is my guess they may be the same person)

I mentioned sometime back in several posts about the danger of some of these crazy escorts. I have also been warned by several fellow senior members about Maggie.

It is very disturbing and digusting that people would stoop to such lowlife actions. It is even more disturbing that they would just try and ruin some guys reputation.

Yes my name is Max..lol...and no I am not married or this poor guy mentioned above.

The nice thing about our country is that you can sue anyone for damn near anything.

I thought the "this information is being forwarded to the police" on the hatefull little site was particularly funny. I am sure that local law enforcement will truly appreciate the help & will gladly take down the information and the name of the person giving it.

Chicagomax
11-29-05, 15:51
These are a few of the emails this WhocaresIDo has sent me. It looks to me like Whocares and Maggie may be the same person.

I will be updating the earlier posts I made later. There have been some interesting devlopments
10/20/05
whocaresIdo
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Reports: 29 CeCe

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can you please take CeCe"s last name off your post and I will put you in touch with her as it is not fair to her.Are her family
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10-20-05 at 21:28
whocaresIdo
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Reports: 29 her addy

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her e-mail addy is justcece@gmail.com

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10-20-05 at 22:26
whocaresIdo
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Originally Posted by Max Here
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Originally Posted by whocaresIdo
her e-mail addy is justcece@gmail.com



"Well no I will not remove it. I do not know you except somebody who likes to spread lies and put others down in the forum. A very good friend emailed me this information on a new local escort. Whom do you think I will believe first?"





I just e-mailed you her addy so talk to her
but posting a last name is just wrong that is all I said and she has been around awhile she is just low key
because of her family.so just e-mail her


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11-24-05 at 07:31
whocaresIdo
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Reports: 29 Maggie

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Why don't you e-mail Maggie and go see her and have a sit down.
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Blue Sterling
11-29-05, 19:13
These are a few of the emails this WhocaresIDo has sent me. It looks to me like Whocares and Maggie may be the same person.

I will be updating the earlier posts I made later. There have been some interesting devlopments
10/20/05
whocaresIdo
Regular Member
Reports: 29 CeCe

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can you please take CeCe"s last name off your post and I will put you in touch with her as it is not fair to her.Are her family
thank you
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10-20-05 at 21:28
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Reports: 29 her addy

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her e-mail addy is justcece@gmail.com

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10-20-05 at 22:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Here
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Originally Posted by whocaresIdo
her e-mail addy is justcece@gmail.com



"Well no I will not remove it. I do not know you except somebody who likes to spread lies and put others down in the forum. A very good friend emailed me this information on a new local escort. Whom do you think I will believe first?"





I just e-mailed you her addy so talk to her
but posting a last name is just wrong that is all I said and she has been around awhile she is just low key
because of her family.so just e-mail her


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11-24-05 at 07:31
whocaresIdo
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Reports: 29 Maggie

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Why don't you e-mail Maggie and go see her and have a sit down.
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Max -

Nicely done.

Now, before yet another posting by WhoCaresIDo trashing both you & me for daring to say anything about "his" ATF, I'd like to add the following:

I am 93% certain that WhoCaresIDo = Maggie = Tara = Cece = A bad time had by most = stinko

Why 93%? In 29 posts WhoCaresIDo has at present, 27 of them are about Maggie. They fall into 2 categories: (a) glowing review of Maggie (the ONLY good reviews Maggie has on this board are from WhoCaresIDo - RTFF, you can see it for yourself; and (b) defending Maggie by blasting anyone who says anything remotely negative about her with the always clever "just move on" comment and the equally lucid "maybe she was just having a bad day".

Divide 27 by 29. You will understand the 93% certainty I have that Maggie is, indeed WhoCaresIDo.

Now as a woman in New Orleans used to say to me, "enough is enough and too much is nasty." Jackson opened this forum to share information between folks. We have all the information we need on Maggie. I would like to turn our attention back to the hobby and the amazing & attractive providers in the hobby.

Justmecece
11-29-05, 19:15
These are a few of the emails this WhocaresIDo has sent me. It looks to me like Whocares and Maggie may be the same person.

I will be updating the earlier posts I made later. There have been some interesting devlopments
10/20/05
whocaresIdo
Regular Member
Reports: 29 CeCe

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can you please take CeCe"s last name off your post and I will put you in touch with her as it is not fair to her.Are her family
thank you
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10-20-05 at 21:28
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her e-mail addy is [Email Address deleted by Admin]

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10-20-05 at 22:26
whocaresIdo
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Originally Posted by Max Here
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Originally Posted by whocaresIdo
her e-mail addy is [Email Address deleted by Admin]

"Well no I will not remove it. I do not know you except somebody who likes to spread lies and put others down in the forum. A very good friend emailed me this information on a new local escort. Whom do you think I will believe first?"


I just e-mailed you her addy so talk to her
but posting a last name is just wrong that is all I said and she has been around awhile she is just low key
because of her family.so just e-mail her


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11-24-05 at 07:31
whocaresIdo
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Reports: 29 Maggie

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Why don't you e-mail Maggie and go see her and have a sit down.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxI was not going to post.Here I am now what do you have to say?If you think you are that much of a man why don't we sit down and have a talk person to person.You will I am not the evil ***** you think I am.You all think I am Maggie I am not,nor am I Sunny.And you all think you have my real name think again you don't.CeCe is short for something else and I will never tell so don't ask.And you think you can go to my family think again,I was a only child,and my child is over the age that DFS would care,they would laugh in your face.I am not hiding so why are you? So drop me a e-mail if you want to talk.

Explorer1
11-30-05, 01:35
Don't waste your time. She's not fat at all, but very thick. She lives with a couple of she-males in North St. Louis (Union and Page). I've seen her walking around downtown several times. If you see her put a bag over her face. She looks like the the devil reincarnated.


I would agree with other posters about Googling the number first, ESPECIALLY those numbers that are posted on CL. You can learn quite a bit. In addition, keep an eye out on other CL cities, and look for a) identical pictures, or b) changing names. This can be a tell-tale clue about whether the posting is legit or not. Do your homework first.

Bill Bradsky
11-30-05, 02:26
Advertises in the RFT 249-35xx. Also advertises as "Lynn" her real first name. She is 60ish (the same as her fee) and not attractive at all. I was draped and wrapped and bored from start to finish.

As always YMMV but my advice is save your money.

Monger on,

BB

Chicagomax
12-01-05, 02:53
I have had several senior members email me that are very concerned about this mess I posted about earlier. Where some misguided malcontents were doing their best to link me to some poor bastard mentioned on a website. Of course they falied complately and only showed how stupid they really are. Several senior members were worried about the same kind of crap would happen to them and they are worried about being "outed" as a monger. I also read several scary stories by these same members.

Such as leaving reviews that were honest but not very flattering and the escort calling them up and telling them to change it or they would tell their wives. Or escorts doing what they could to try and blackmail these guys into giving more money for no services rendered. Lots of other scary stuff as well. Everyone wondering what could be done about it and I may have come up with a solution.

What we need is a site like the escorts have. Like the one that only escorts are allowed to use and are verified as being an escort before they are allowed access. We need that for mongers. A site that gives honest reviews and very detailed info on the escorts. The kind of detail that would be helpful to us mongers.

Let me know what you think of this idea and what kind of review catergories you would like to see and what kind of detailed info you would like to see as well.

It will be a site where we would need some type of verification system and a way to keep the escorts off. Reviews and info would be left and not taken down. Some of the review sites (I am not talking about this one Jackson) will take down a bad review for an escort in exchange for sex. Which makes those boards dishonest and worthless. This one would not.

It would be a way to insure that our reviews of escorts are very honest and without fear of some revenge plot by a crazy escort. It should only be an escort review site and not one aimed at sw's and there should be no editing of posts. I figure the more detail we have on these gals the better off we all are and it will keep us all on an even playing field.

Let me now what you think as it is only in the thought stage. If you think it will not work then we can drop it

TheDangPenguin
12-01-05, 03:06
Hey,

Has anyone been to this Soft Touch place?

I saw it advertised on TV.

Any good?

Tdp

Whatadude
12-01-05, 04:12
I have had several senior members email me that are very concerned about this mess I posted about earlier. Where some misguided malcontents were doing their best to link me to some poor bastard mentioned on a website. Of course they falied complately and only showed how stupid they really are. Several senior members were worried about the same kind of crap would happen to them and they are worried about being "outed" as a monger. I also read several scary stories by these same members.

Such as leaving reviews that were honest but not very flattering and the escort calling them up and telling them to change it or they would tell their wives. Or escorts doing what they could to try and blackmail these guys into giving more money for no services rendered. Lots of other scary stuff as well. Everyone wondering what could be done about it and I may have come up with a solution.

What we need is a site like the escorts have. Like the one that only escorts are allowed to use and are verified as being an escort before they are allowed access. We need that for mongers. A site that gives honest reviews and very detailed info on the escorts. The kind of detail that would be helpful to us mongers.

Let me know what you think of this idea and what kind of review catergories you would like to see and what kind of detailed info you would like to see as well.

It will be a site where we would need some type of verification system and a way to keep the escorts off. Reviews and info would be left and not taken down. Some of the review sites (I am not talking about this one Jackson) will take down a bad review for an escort in exchange for sex. This one would not.

It would be a way to insure that our reviews of escorts are very honest and without fear of some revenge plot by a crazy escort. It should only be an escort review site and not one aimed at sw's and there should be no editing of posts. I figure the more detail we have on these gals the better off we all are and it will keep us all on an even playing field.

Let me now what you think as it is only in the thought stage. If you think it will not work then we can drop itYou can look at from both points, you have put yourself on front street with your views and putting ladies information on this board not thinking you hurt. People donot give a rats ass about you are the rest of the guys, you have everyone in a uproar about what the ladies do, do you have the facts to back up what you are saying, Some ladies put everything up on front street by doing incalls. You need to get your facts together before you post. I have never heard a review that you have written about a lady that is true. I have many ladies over the years, if I don't like one I just don't go back. I look at I would rather the ladies try to make a living than living off the state.

So you think it is ok to post there information? We are all here for the same thing to enjoy the ladies. It is getting to the point ladies from out of town donot want to come for the fear of what could be printed about them, you are just playing into LE"s hands.

Phil Anderer76
12-01-05, 10:00
She advertises in RFT as "A New Intuitive Massage Call Natalie." Has a web site: www.artformassage.com

I'm looking for someone who does a nice job of bridging the legit with the much more sensual.

Thanks

Fred Reed
12-01-05, 20:34
...Such as leaving reviews that were honest but not very flattering and the escort calling them up and telling them to change it or they would tell their wives. Or escorts doing what they could to try and blackmail these guys into giving more money for no services rendered. Lots of other scary stuff as well. Everyone wondering what could be done about it and I may have come up with a solution.



Max Here,

If a monger is worried about being blackmailed or having a wife or girlfriend find out, he obviously gave the girl too much personal information. The monger just simply needs to learn to shutup and just take care of business. I have a standard line of BS about my work, family, where I live, etc. that I give to street walkers and escorts when they start asking personal questions. This situation is also a good reason to never take these girls home.

I don't think that a site just for mongers would necessarily be better than this one. Over time, the escorts will sneak in anyway unless we had to meet other members in person to gain access to the forum.

Fred

He So Horney
12-01-05, 20:43
Short of making all of your calls to the ladies via public phones, if they won't accept blocked calls, then how can you contact them by phone without being identified with caller id?

A few years back I was trying to help a masseuse get more business and I posted a graphic description of the pleasurable session I had with her. Another client of hers saw it and told her. It had just the opposite reaction that I had intended. She was furious and called my cell threatening to tell my wife I had seen her. Forgive me if I posted about this earlier.

I diffused the situation by telling my wife before she could. Unfortunately, I might have continued to see this lady had I not unintentionally alienated her.

How do you other guys make your appointments without giving away your identities?

He So Horney

Fred Reed
12-01-05, 21:33
How do you other guys make your appointments without giving away your identities?

He So Horney

He So Horney,

Go to Wal-Mart and buy a cheap minute phone. Add talk time to the phone by paying cash for additional minutes. As long as you pay for everything in cash there is no way anybody can trace the number back to you. You get voice mail and caller id. Works for me!

Fred

Blue Sterling
12-01-05, 23:14
Short of making all of your calls to the ladies via public phones, if they won't accept blocked calls, then how can you contact them by phone without being identified with caller id?

How do you other guys make your appointments without giving away your identities?

He So Horney

Fred's idea about the pre-paid cell phone is perfect. I may need to try that one. I've used pre-paid calling cards and airport phones, which was enough to spoof any caller ID to date. The number that comes up on the Caller ID is the pre-paid card's number. When asked, "where are you calling from", I just say, "I'm on the road for work".

Also, the idea of having a standard line to answer questions is good. The name I use is not mine, but I have built up enough of a background that if that name gets "googled", they come up with what I tell them.

From time to time, when this topic comes up there is a poster who feels inclined to say, "how can you lie to these women?" Let me put a stop to that before it happens. I do not use my real name, real information about my family, my job, or anything else. In return, I do not need to know her real name or other information. This is not a counseling session or a deposition - I don't need the details & I am not about to share any either. I'd just as soon not have something come back and bite me on my very fat butt.... besides, you have to pay extra for that any way.

Jannisary
12-01-05, 23:59
The pre-paid cell phones are the way to go for protecting your identity, I've got a Tracfone brand. Paid for it in cash and occassionally have to buy refill cards to add minutes to it. It costs around ten dollars per month to keep it active. The only name connected to it is my first name which I put on the voice mail account. Thought about using a fake name but that seemed like too much work. Especially since I'm terrible remembering names, it would be very bad to forget my own name in the middle of a date.

As far as giving escorts your personal information, I'm a bit conflicted on the issue. I've lied before and I've also given my personal info out so she could "verify" me. The ones I've given my personal information to have all been long established and very well reviewed escorts. Not sure if that makes it any safer but I figure if she's was the sort to pull something stupid it would have come back to bite her in the form of bad reviews or rumors long before I decided to try her out. In regards to giving information during idle chit chat with escorts, amp girls, dancers, etc.; I try not to. I've slipped with a few favorite dancers and given out a little more than intended but I've got a standard line I try to use.

He So Horney, described his problem with his posting getting back to the girl. Try to avoid connecting your member name here with the name the girls know you by. If you polled (lol) all the esorts around here not a single one would remember or have a record of meeting with a "jannisary". He only exists on a couple of forums, a few yahoo groups and here. I also try to keep some vagueness in my posts, especially concerning timeframes. Hopefully that makes it a litttle more difficult to connect "jannisary" to the guy wandering street, and hitting the amps and strip clubs.

Chicagomax
12-02-05, 00:44
Max Here,

If a monger is worried about being blackmailed or having a wife or girlfriend find out, he obviously gave the girl too much personal information. The monger just simply needs to learn to shutup and just take care of business. I have a standard line of BS about my work, family, where I live, etc. that I give to street walkers and escorts when they start asking personal questions. This situation is also a good reason to never take these girls home.

I don't think that a site just for mongers would necessarily be better than this one. Over time, the escorts will sneak in anyway unless we had to meet other members in person to gain access to the forum.

Fred

You have a very valid point here. I agree that it would b next to impossible to keep an escort out however for the protection of us I thought it might be a good idea to share as much data about the escorts as we can. Hell thay have their own boards that track us and tells them about us.

One of the guys from the LA board was telling me how he made a date with a very well known LA escort and she later tried to blackmail him. He caved and gave her the money she wanted because he was married. She came back two more times for money after the first incident.

Plus some of the other boards take down the bad reviews after the escort does the board owner a few times. I could give you two very good examples of this that I know of for sure.

But I do agree with your point.

Fred Reed
12-02-05, 08:09
Fred's idea about the pre-paid cell phone is perfect. I may need to try that one. I've used pre-paid calling cards and airport phones, which was enough to spoof any caller ID to date. The number that comes up on the Caller ID is the pre-paid card's number. When asked, "where are you calling from", I just say, "I'm on the road for work".

Also, the idea of having a standard line to answer questions is good. The name I use is not mine, but I have built up enough of a background that if that name gets "googled", they come up with what I tell them.

From time to time, when this topic comes up there is a poster who feels inclined to say, "how can you lie to these women?" Let me put a stop to that before it happens. I do not use my real name, real information about my family, my job, or anything else. In return, I do not need to know her real name or other information. This is not a counseling session or a deposition - I don't need the details & I am not about to share any either. I'd just as soon not have something come back and bite me on my very fat butt.... besides, you have to pay extra for that any way.

Blue Sterling,

Be careful with those calling cards. I used a card once that relayed my cell phone number to the person I was calling. It was just a test so no harm was done. Also most payphones will not send a caller ID number to the person that you call. They will see things like "number unavailable", "Restricted", etc. Always test your stuff before using it.

jannisary, you don't have to use a name, real or fake, on your voice mail. Simply say " I am unable to answer your call leave your message at the tone" End of message! Most of the girls are using fake names too. Most of them don't care who you are anyway!

I am amazed that I get calls from time to time from girls that I have not seen in years. Sometimes that can be a good thing if you are having trouble finding girls.


*** By the way, your pre-paid phone is for mongering only. ***

Never use the phone to contact anybody who knows your real name. The phone company keeps track of all the numbers called and received on pre-paid cell phones too. Don't make it easy for LE to trace you by calling your office or someone you know from your mongering phone.

Have fun boys!

Fred

He So Horney
12-02-05, 08:47
Thank you all for this enlightening thread. Gave me lots of ideas for security measures that I hadn't thought of in my pursuit of pleasure.

I tend to focus on one area and specialize in it. For years my "beat" (like a cop's) consisted of sw's, dancers on the E. side, and massage parlors. I must have had a death wish - I roamed the streets of Detroit in the Cass Corridor (it would be like walking alone in East St. Louis), and picked up hookers in L.A., and on here on Washington Avenue.

As I grew older my desire to be on the edge diminished and was replaced by a different kind of "hunting" instinct - the goal being find as many masseuses that give happy endings below $100 (or below $75, even better!).

But because my focus was on the procurement end, I neglected properly insulating myself. I relied totally on the good will of the women I was seeing and the fact that I usually gave them lots of referrals and formed something of a relationship with each one.

However, I did make mistakes along the way, and had a few near disasters. In some respects I have been quite naiive for a guy who's roamed the streets as long as I have.

So I do thank you for those great suggestions which I am going to start using beginning with the purchase of a pre-paid phone. Guess there's nothing I can do about the masseuses that already have my real cell number.

I've had 3 masseuses call my cell at inopportune moments but fortunately, they were all nice and understood when I either indicated they must have the wrong number, or said I'll have to call you back.

This is a terrific medium for exchanging ideas!

He So Horney

Fred Reed
12-02-05, 18:33
Guess there's nothing I can do about the masseuses that already have my real cell number.

He So Horney

If some of these gals already have your number, try this.

Cancel your current phone!

Don't worry about the fee or fine that the phone company will charge to terminate your cell phone contract . The peace of mind will be worth the cost. Get a new phone with a different company.

From now on, just give the girls the number to your pre-paid phone (A.K.A The Monger Phone) .

Bill Bradsky
12-03-05, 00:14
This is a current RFT ad that I do NOT recommend.

"Complete Your Day in A Personal Way*. Experience Extreme relaxation in a Personal & Private Setting. Forget the rest... expect the BEST. 7 AM - 7 PM Thank You. 314-921-4xxx 200401xxxx."

The reality is just the opposite. Expect the worst. There are far too many good massueses out there to put up with someone like this.

Her name is "Jana". A very, very negative vibe.

Monger on, but not here.

BB

Bill Bradsky
12-03-05, 00:33
She advertises in RFT as "A New Intuitive Massage Call Natalie." Has a web site: www.artformassage.com

I'm looking for someone who does a nice job of bridging the legit with the much more sensual.

Thanks

Rooster,

I have never used "Natalie" but have seen her ad many times. At one time she had the phrase "non-sexual" in her RFT ad. I think it costs $100 per hour to find out if that is still true. That is a deal killer for me.

Write a report if you go.

Monger on,

BB

Justmecece
12-03-05, 03:24
If some of these gals already have your number, try this.

Cancel your current phone!

Don't worry about the fee or fine that the phone company will charge to terminate your cell phone contract . The peace of mind will be worth the cost. Get a new phone with a different company.

From now on, just give the girls the number to your pre-paid phone (A.K.A The Monger Phone) .Guys 90% of all ladies donot keep your information, they to have families and they don't want you all showing up at there door step. The reasone we all ask for information is a safety reason, so the lady has some idea who they are seeing. I would never call someone inless they said it was ok. I for one to cheap to use my cell mins. I for one only have so many mins and I am on a family share plan and 800 goes fast. So guys remember when a lady asks for you information be truthful it gets you seen a lot faster.

You all need to grow up remember Escort Services in the phone book you had to give your whole life history to be seen. Just remember safety first.

He So Horney
12-03-05, 08:20
I once called her and it was very strange - within the first 30 seconds following my standard query as to "do you offer a sensual massage?" (I didn't ask about hj's or anything else, just left it general) she got paranoid, said she was very particular about her cliental and hung up on me. I read somewhere that she is from Russia.


Rooster,

I have never used "Natalie" but have seen her ad many times. At one time she had the phrase "non-sexual" in her RFT ad. I think it costs $100 per hour to find out if that is still true. That is a deal killer for me.

Write a report if you go.

Monger on,

BB

He So Horney
12-03-05, 08:47
Has anyone investigated this ad that is currently in the RFT backpage under Services on the right hand side of the page?


TNT ESCORT & SPA
comes to the St. Louis area.

Sorry! No out calls;
the ladies are in very safe
& discret locations.

We have have ladies of all races
Black,White,Indain,Spanish & Asian!

The rates very from $50-$500
depending on time, avalibility & preerence!

If you are at all interested Please call
Mrs. Ashley at 314-599-3740
YES WE ARE HIRRING

Funman1775
12-03-05, 14:07
I once called her and it was very strange - within the first 30 seconds following my standard query as to "do you offer a sensual massage? " (I didn't ask about HJ's or anything else, just left it general) she got paranoid, said she was very particular about her cliental and hung up on me. I read somewhere that she is from Russia. I have see natalie. Russian lives off of I-170 in an apartment complex. She gave me a happy ending for $100. The 2nd time I was there she seem very nervous and was concerned about her neighbors knowing she gave massages. I am not going back. Just did not like the effert.

Funman

He So Horney
12-04-05, 17:38
Today I tried out a new resource and before I tell you about it, I must qualify it.

When I was a great deal younger I sought out beautiful women. Fortunately, my looks were sufficient when added to my sense of humor that sometimes I was successful - not always. But I realized early on in life that dating was a numbers game, unless of course you were blessed with great looks, height, and charisma. That being said, I had my share of beautiful women.

What I found dating a model was that unless the woman was beautiful inside, over time her outer appearance would eventually begin to fade - at least for me it did.

That was phase one of my young sexual life. In phase two, I adjusted my expectations - then I was seeking "attractive women" with great personalities who were good in bed. To my disappointment, not every attractive woman was a competent lover.

Now we enter phase three. In this phase in my pursuit of a masseuse (not a life partner), I am less concerned with looks then technique and pricing.

To put this in perspective let me ask you: Which would you rather enjoy, a beautiful woman who hasn't a clue how to get you off and acts like if she's in a contest to see how fast she can finish you and get on to the next sucker or a plain woman who might not turn any heads anywhere, but who has mastered the skills of erotic pleasure to a degree you've never experience before?

Your answer will depend on how old you are, what's important to you, what turns you on, and how well you can focus on the actual sensation you are experiencing more than the person delivering that pleasure.

Today I drove to Collinsville, Illinois for an appointment with two women. There were both "big" ladies, and at best I would have to say aside from their weight no worse but no better than an average looking woman. I did not find them ugly, and I was able to focus on what they were doing to me.

The ladies were very warm, friendly, giving individuals. I had things done to me that I had only fantasized about before. After negotiating with them for a week, when I got there and we actually got down to the action, they did MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH more than I was expecting.

I was there for 1/2 hour. The massage became foreplay fairly quickly. The foreplay became a bombardment of pleasurable attention to all of my erogenous zones, often simultaneously.

The charge was XX and for how they made me feel it should have been double.

Before you PM me for details, be advised that I have qualified this experience right from the start. If you're looking for another Molly in looks, these aren't the ladies for you. But, if you have fantasized about having two topless women service you at the same time to completion, and you are able to focus on the sensations and enjoy them like I did, regardless of the fact that the women were big, then I will be happy to tell you more and give you contact information.

For most of the common questions you're going to ask me, the answer will probably be "yes".

Oh, I have pictures too. ARE YOU READY?

BowHuntMopar
12-04-05, 23:47
To He So Horney,

I thoroughly enjoyed your story. You are correct in a guy going thru different phases of life in searching for a sex partner or lifetime mate. I had a wife that was very attractive which I would rate about an "8". Unfortunately, beauty was only skin deep with her. She is an evil woman. I am now in search for another lifetime mate but have to satisfy my urges either thru self gratification or occasional trips to Tijuana at $60.00 per "pop" since the prices are way out of hand here in the States. In TJ, I can get a GFE with a club girl that I would rate a "9" or a "10" for $60. Another $11 for the room for 30 minutes and I'm a happy camper for several hours until the next "urge" hits my loins. The street girls which rate about a "3" thru an "8" would ask $20 but they will rush you to completion.

Getting back to your story though, I hate to say this, but I would rather gratify myself rather than have a session with (2) fat women. Perhaps I haven't reached Stage III of my life yet. Either way, I'm glad you enjoyed yourself immensely.

Chicagomax
12-05-05, 10:03
That was a great post. Glad you were able to have such a great espereince. I have had several threesome experiences over the course of my short life on earth. The first time is always the best.

SIDE BAR: I want to remind the guys here that it was just about a year ago that the cops busted that guy here in town for pimping. He was filing pornos of the clients and girls, to try and get around the law and when he got busted he told the cops everything. Including about a website that had info on clients here in town and the cell numbers of the cops. The cops were shocked that that the working girls had so much info on them. The extent of the client info was never revealed. However they did menton there were names and numbers

Justmecece
12-05-05, 20:55
That was a great post. Glad you were able to have such a great espereince. I have had several threesome experiences over the course of my short life on earth. The first time is always the best.

SIDE BAR: I want to remind the guys here that it was just about a year ago that the cops busted that guy here in town for pimping. He was filing pornos of the clients and girls, to try and get around the law and when he got busted he told the cops everything. Including about a website that had info on clients here in town and the cell numbers of the cops. The cops were shocked that that the working girls had so much info on them. The extent of the client info was never revealed. However they did menton there were names and numbersWhy are you worried about something that happen a year ago,are you so bored that all you do is worry what others are doing.Worry about what is real.

That guy left town along time ago.You hide behind the net as you bully people
grow up.

Chicagomax
12-05-05, 21:31
I do not do this very often but there is a total hottie coming to town that I have seen a few times and I suggest her highly. She never disapponts me. She is a true GFE, very sweet and has a killer body. She emailed me and I told her I would pass her info on to senior members only. She is a little freaked by all the crap that is going on in St Louis.

Senior members email me and I will get you the info. She is well worth what she charges

He So Horney
12-09-05, 23:31
I misunderstood the shorthand for money. In my post about the two women I saw last sunday when I said they charged XX I actually meant to infer it was only 2 digits. It actually was only $60 for both ladies for a half hour. They indicated they will be raising it to $80 after Christmas. I think that's still a good deal if you enjoy them.

He So Horney

Fred Reed
12-10-05, 08:36
I misunderstood the shorthand for money. In my post about the two women I saw last sunday when I said they charged XX I actually meant to infer it was only 2 digits. It actually was only $60 for both ladies for a half hour. They indicated they will be raising it to $80 after Christmas. I think that's still a good deal if you enjoy them.

He So Horney

Why can't we just say $60 when we mean $60 and $100 when we mean $100?

Knucklebuck
12-11-05, 03:25
Picked up Dawn on South Broadway near Nebraska about 1am. Long, brown hair and medium height and weight...fairly decent body for a SW. She was obviously early in her mission as she filled out her jeans quite nicely and then some, but not fat.

Cute little lower back tattoo and soft ass. $30 for bbbj finish by hand. Mediocre skills unfortunately.

Staying around Bates and Grand and was telling me that all the girls were telling her to go out and make some money. There must be some fucking girls out there...but damned if I've run across any lately.

Chicagomax
12-11-05, 21:57
What is the most you have ever paid for an hour or two of fun? I saw a well known pornstar in Vegas this weekend and knew from the beginning I had paid too much. I won a lot playing craps so I decided to try her out.

She has the kinda of body I love. Small thin waist and big fake jugs are a real weakness for me. It ran me 1500 for two hours and was a real fun expereince. I would not say it was worth 1500 but it was at least in the top 5 best experiences I have ever had with an escort.

What about the rest of you guys?

IrishIIs
12-11-05, 22:12
I paid a well known escort that used to be the area Tara Costa 1500 for three hours and it was worth every penny. Still think of her and get wood. She had a great body and made you feel like you were the only guy she ever saw. She was the best in St Louis. Hated to see her retire saw her at least once or twice a month. She had class something the area is missing now.

whocaresIdo
12-12-05, 00:32
What is the most you have ever paid for an hour or two of fun? I saw a well known pornstar in Vegas this weekend and knew from the beginning I had paid too much. I won a lot playing craps so I decided to try her out.

She has the kinda of body I love. Small thin waist and big fake jugs are a real weakness for me. It ran me 1500 for two hours and was a real fun expereince. I would not say it was worth 1500 but it was at least in the top 5 best experiences I have ever had with an escort.

What about the rest of you guys?We all thought $50.00 was your limit. Are is it Free you are a joke.

BowHuntMopar
12-12-05, 01:58
I think the max I paid was $300 for an hour of fun. I do not think I would pay that much mainly because some of these women start to get an inflated sense of self worth. If one "John" pays that price, then she thinks she can start asking & demanding that same inflated amount from all her customers.

The most I spent was about $500 for (6) women in Amsterdam back in the early 90's. It was costing me about 50 Guilders (roughly $25 dollars) for a 15 minute session for the window girls. Every one of the girls charged extra for removing all her clothes, another 15 minutes, doggy, BJ, etc.... End up costing me about $50 to $75 for each girl. My thighs were hurting by the end of the night. The worst part was trying to "do" a 7th girl. I couldn't get my "Willy" up without hand or oral stimulation on the girl's part & then I wasn't able to "pop" because the "well" was bone dry.

Amsterdam is an amazing place. I was like a kid in a candy store. After I finished with (1) girl, I would walk maybe another couple yards & find another window girl better looking than the one I just left. The best looking girls are always busy. Best time of the year to go is coming up because from Jan until March, the flights are cheap & the girls are not worn out by the end of their 8 hour shift. Best thing about going that time of year is you get to cool off after each session by walking out on the streets & it's 30 to 50 degrees. The first time I went was in July and that's the worst time because of the tourists and the 80 degree temperatures. A busload of freaking Japanese tourists were laughing at me just as I was walking out of one of the girl's rooms.

He So Horney
12-12-05, 09:07
Since my forte is "bargain basement" masseuses, I traditionally stay below $100. But I always felt if I could connect with a really beautiful woman then I'd spring for more.

About a year or so ago I saw a post on ez-board that Cierra Sage was coming to town. I had never heard of her but a quick Yahoo search turned up her webpage. She is a gorgeous young porn star; tall (5'8") slender with perfect implants, long blonde hair, blue eyes, and kind of a naughty/innocent little girl demeanor. She was asking $250 at the time. (She has since raised her rate to $350).

I made an appointment with her, but because of a communication foul up I ended up going downtown to her hotel and not connecting with her. She was really sweet and called me back after I had already returned home after hearing a voicemail message I left her. To make up for the wasted trip she gave me the hour for $175. She was prettier in person than her pictures, much prettier. It was the only time I paid more than $100, and I felt it was well worth it. In fact I saw her a second time on her next trip to St. Louis.

(I have uploaded a picture of Cierra Sage - if you ever get a chance to see her you won't be sorry!)

The least I ever paid was .75. Yep - you read that right - seventy-five cents! I was in Detroit and picked up a woman I thought was a sw and she asked me to buy her some food. This was in the late 70's and that's what a salad cost me which is what she picked out. Afterwards, she directed me to a dark side street and gave me a hj. Didn't ask for anything else. Maybe she wasn't even a sw, but I did buy her a salad and get sex in return.

While living on the West Coast I once traded a woman sex for two brass lamps, and when I moved back here I traded a masseuse a session with a happy ending in exchange for me installing a ceiling fan in her kitchen.

I guess those were the most unusual transactions I had involving sex.

Chicagomax
12-12-05, 14:51
I think the max I paid was $300 for an hour of fun. I do not think I would pay that much mainly because some of these women start to get an inflated sense of self worth. If one "John" pays that price, then she thinks she can start asking & demanding that same inflated amount from all her customers.

The most I spent was about $500 for (6) women in Amsterdam back in the early 90's. It was costing me about 50 Guilders (roughly $25 dollars) for a 15 minute session for the window girls. Every one of the girls charged extra for removing all her clothes, another 15 minutes, doggy, BJ, etc.... End up costing me about $50 to $75 for each girl. My thighs were hurting by the end of the night. The worst part was trying to "do" a 7th girl. I couldn't get my "Willy" up without hand or oral stimulation on the girl's part & then I wasn't able to "pop" because the "well" was bone dry.

Amsterdam is an amazing place. I was like a kid in a candy store. After I finished with (1) girl, I would walk maybe another couple yards & find another window girl better looking than the one I just left. The best looking girls are always busy. Best time of the year to go is coming up because from Jan until March, the flights are cheap & the girls are not worn out by the end of their 8 hour shift. Best thing about going that time of year is you get to cool off after each session by walking out on the streets & it's 30 to 50 degrees. The first time I went was in July and that's the worst time because of the tourists and the 80 degree temperatures. A busload of freaking Japanese tourists were laughing at me just as I was walking out of one of the girl's rooms.

I was in Amsterdamn on business about 6 years ago and though prices have gone up I had a real good time as well. I like TJ too but those gals have gotten nasty looking the last few years. And the real goodlooking ones in TJ have an attitude, which I hate.

If I had not one it big at the craps table I never would have spent that kind of money. But I did real well and decided to spend it on something I would normally not do. This gals body was flawless and she was a real dynamo in bed. I know some guys into a GFE time but I am not. I like the just "sex only" way of doing it. I have no desire to date or marry these chicks so it works better for me that way.

This gal was very good at sex and said she enjoys it and she seem to. She had a great oral technique. She could deep throat me completely and hold it long enough to massage the head with the back of her throat. So yea 750 an hour was a lot but I had the casinos money and decided to treat myself.

Chicagomax
12-12-05, 14:59
You have the best posts bro. The sald story was funny. I was going to see Cierra Sage but she was booked. I may see her the next time she is in town. But one review I read said she had a fat ass. I am not into the fat assed chicks.

Craigslist is decent but most of the chicks on the St Louis NSA board are either escorts or fat. I have only met a few women who were worth having sex with from that board.

I am not much into the sw scene any more unless I am in need of some head or I see an a chick with a nice body. Last one with a nice body was that crack head striiper in Brooklyn I nailed a few times a year ago last summer.

Wulfe13
12-12-05, 16:40
How do you guys know when a Pornstar is coming to town, and how do you know if they P4P? I wouldn't mind spending a little more than normal to have a pornstar! Especially someone like Kobe Tai.

He So Horney
12-12-05, 19:55
Thank you for the kind words Max - I enjoy reading about your adventures as well. I didn't think Cierra had a big ass - to me it looked perfect. She was charging $250 when I saw her, I heard now she's raised it to $350.
Here's a deal for anyone that has had fantasies about making a porno - if you are willing to let her video tape the two of you and show it on her webpage, it's only $100! Think of it, you can become a STAR!

and now for some unsolicited words of wisdom (?) ...

some see the penis as half flacid - I see the penis as half erect! Guess I'm a natural born optimist.



You have the best posts bro. The sald story was funny. I was going to see Cierra Sage but she was booked. I may see her the next time she is in town. But one review I read said she had a fat ass. I am not into the fat assed chicks.

Craigslist is decent but most of the chicks on the St Louis NSA board are either escorts or fat. I have only met a few women who were worth having sex with from that board.

I am not much into the sw scene any more unless I am in need of some head or I see an a chick with a nice body. Last one with a nice body was that crack head striiper in Brooklyn I nailed a few times a year ago last summer.

melowdowneasy
12-12-05, 20:43
I spent about a 100 grand on my ex, but I guess that don't count. It sucks real bad,hard to get over(the money not her).

I spent about total for a week at this place this year 3,500(airport parking etc). Had a real good time but didnt feel I got enough bang for my buck.Alot of frikkin drama with the girls. Long travel day. I'm on the message board there for the doubters. Overall a great vacation,recommend.
www.mywildvacation.com

I was going to go to Costa rica next year but changed my mind.

Am going to this place early next year. A little different,but am really looking forward to it. 20 an hr sw,to 150 to 200 for runway model types. Average 65. From what I understand 1 of the owners is a personal friend of Jackson's. Total price will probably be about the same.
www.medellinmansion.com

I may be done locally except for 1 girl (maybe) 2 -300 an hr pops is airfare to costa rica. Just to much for hit or miss experiences.

Chicagomax
12-13-05, 12:26
My usual limit is in the 300 to 400 range. But she has to be real hot for me to do that. There are way to many skanks in St Louis asking for that much that just do not have the bodies to warrant it. Lots of the in town girls look like they are really used up. How some of them justify even 200 and hour is beyond me.

There are about three here in town that I think have the bodies to justify that kind of cash but it is usually the out of towners that I see.

One more day in Vagas before heading home....

Chicagomax
12-13-05, 12:43
"As for my "bad" morning, I have gotten past that by adding said person (notice I didnt say 'gent' as I normally would) to the client database on the Ladies Board. And the DNS list grows. I can be the nicest, kindest most giving person you will ever meet...and I can give you enough rope to hang yourself. oh well, win some, lose some. I didn't lose a damned thing!! Ladies, as we come across these nc/ns's they gotta be documented SOMEWHERE so the same crap isn't repeated. It becomes a vicious cycle with some guys. FWIW he hasn't replied to my morning email. His loss. Let's see how fast he can get an appointment with someone else local..

BJ"

Here is the link....if it stays up..it is the middle paragraph...
http://escortblogs.net/ladeebeejay.htm

Here is what I have been harping about for over a year now. Proof again that the escorts have boards in place that has your info. If they think you did them wrong they will post your info for other escorts to know about. Keep in mind that boards about the good guys who see the escorts also exist and they have info on them as well. Caution guys.

I have had many emails from members on here telling me stories, where they were blackmailed or embarrassed by escorts. Do not believe their crap for a minute that they do not keep your info. They do. Only a few I have ever seen over the years did not from what I could see. Many do.

Toshiosamma
12-13-05, 13:03
My girlfriend in the business just told me there was another AMP bust in MO, and I think she meant St. Louis. Is this true?

Big KC
12-14-05, 21:03
I went into a new adult video store last night. It is on the west side of the Missouri river. It has video booths for five bucks you got fake bills for the machine. I tried this, watched porno and did the self service thing. When I was finishing, I thought that I heard a light knock on the door. I was very slow in opening the door, my hands were full. As I left, I noticed that almost all of the doors were open about an inch, with someone in them. I din't open any of the doors and ask what is going on. I am new to video booths, did I miss some sort of female service?

Bill Bradsky
12-14-05, 23:28
My girlfriend in the business just told me there was another AMP bust in MO, and I think she meant St. Louis. Is this true?

Tosh-

Not in St.Louis. Columbia, Mo.

http://www.showmenews.com/2005/Dec/20051212News003.asp

Monger on,

BB

Toshiosamma
12-15-05, 17:27
Thanks, man. That was a near miss for my ladyfriend. She was headed there a few weeks ago for a two-month job, but it fell through at the last minute. Then when she tried to book the job again a few days ago she found out about the bust. She can't quit this business fast enough, as far as I'm concerned.


Tosh-
Not in St.Louis. Columbia, Mo.
http://www.showmenews.com/2005/Dec/20051212News003.asp
Monger on,
BB

He So Horney
12-18-05, 10:47
"Go East young man, Go East" - that's what my cock told me yesterday, so armed with a full tank of gas, a healthy libido, and a viagra tab, I headed back to my 2 new Collinsville friends.

The ladies seem to be refining and improving their technique when sexually assaulting my body in tandem.

Yesterday was the most incredible sexual experience of my life (other than when 5 naked women gave me oral sex at P.T.'s - Centerville on Swinger's Night many years ago as their way of "introducing themselves" to me - "hi, my name is Cindy, and this must be your cock!").

They had me lay on my stomach perpendicular to the bed. One worked on my back and shoulders and the other went straight for the goodies. This time, in addition to her tongue, she had a vibrator on one hand. Oy-chi-wa-wa! My balls, butt, cock, and any other erogenous zone within 10 miles was stimulated!

Then they had me flip over, and the heat went up considerably. Now I had a massive breast in my mouth while two other mouths toured my body. It was an avalanche of sensory overload! Suddenly, I had "delusions of adequacy" as my cock danced to a primal beat with the electrically charged energy of a rabbit in heat.

I mean to say, I had nipples fondled and sucked, balls massaged with a vibrator, an expert mouth sliding up and down my pole, I couldn't keep track of it all - but when I exploded - IT WAS INTENSE!

Olathe38
12-18-05, 11:32
I went into a new adult video store last night. It is on the west side of the Missouri river. It has video booths for five bucks you got fake bills for the machine. I tried this, watched porno and did the self service thing. When I was finishing, I thought that I heard a light knock on the door. I was very slow in opening the door, my hands were full. As I left, I noticed that almost all of the doors were open about an inch, with someone in them. I din't open any of the doors and ask what is going on. I am new to video booths, did I miss some sort of female service?If it is like most video arcades, you may have missed an offer of service, but most likely it wasn't female. Now and then you might find a couple looking to play, but I think females are pretty rare in these places. Anyone know of any ABS's where one might find ladies for service?

KC Questor
12-18-05, 16:51
I went into a new adult video store last night. It is on the west side of the Missouri river. It has video booths for five bucks you got fake bills for the machine. I tried this, watched porno and did the self service thing. When I was finishing, I thought that I heard a light knock on the door. I was very slow in opening the door, my hands were full. As I left, I noticed that almost all of the doors were open about an inch, with someone in them. I din't open any of the doors and ask what is going on. I am new to video booths, did I miss some sort of female service?

Female? No.

LowRad
12-18-05, 23:55
Does anyone have any first hand knowledge on Casey?

http://www.eros-stlouis.com/files/us-yl1-casey1.htm

Ms Precious
12-26-05, 22:16
Hi gentlemen,

My name is Precious. I'm a exotic experinced gfe escort coming to visit STL in the near future so email me for appts.

Rate are 150 per hr

50 additional hrs

xoxo

PsyberZombie
12-27-05, 06:27
If it is like most video arcades, you may have missed an offer of service, but most likely it wasn't female. Now and then you might find a couple looking to play, but I think females are pretty rare in these places. Anyone know of any ABS's where one might find ladies for service?

No , but these are great places to take a SW if you want an in·door spot for a 'quickie' and don't want to go through the trouble and expense of booking a room in a No·tell HO·tel

Payforfun
12-28-05, 02:09
Visited Ashley recently ( $65 massage + happy ) and was mildly satisfied.

Like HeSo reported, found a mat on the basement floor in a townhouse in Spanih Lake.

Ashley is a young,good-looking black girl with big tits. Very nice personality and mediocre massage skills.

The flip was 5 min. into it and the ending was quite good. About 20-25 min. total.

She does allow fondling.

HeSo,

I am on the same quest as you: incall massage with happy ending for a good price.

So far, Sherry is the best I've found.I'll keep going back, but is there info on 'Sherry on here?

Sorry, I'm new, but reading to catch up

Also looking for massage + @ $75 range or less

Thanks to all who have helpful info

Payforfun
12-28-05, 03:24
I still think that Lisa Lopez is when of the better providers in town. I think she charges a little too much but if you watch her web site for specials or a couple of the local boards she runs good deals very often. She is hot and slender with big boobs....I think she is hotFrom the pics that I've seen, I would totally agree. Although, I would also agree, at full pricing, that is just too much for my blood.

If you don't mind , can I PM you for more info on the 'local board specials' that I could look for?

Thanks,

Larry

Payforfun
12-28-05, 16:37
Thanks to all who've posted on here.

I posted last night, however, perhaps Moderators are on Holiday;)

Good, useful info on here, and it helps to organize all the CL/RFT stuff.

I had someone from St Charles, 35 blonde, that came out to visit me at Harrah's BBBJ for $70. Was very nice, however, I need to contact her to see if contact info is ok to give out, since this is my first time posting and all.

Ms Precious
12-29-05, 22:57
Hello Gentlemen,

I will be in St.louis this weekend I will arrrive tmrw I provide gfe services I have good reviews if you check the memphis forum and I'm also on www.sexyescortsads.com.

I can be reached this weekend only by phone call me at (901) 340-9623

xoxoo

Bonerfide
12-31-05, 13:33
"1a DANIELLE Tall, Slender, Gorgeous, White Female 5'8 128 lbs. 36c-26-34 Long Hair, Long Legs Looks & Satisfaction Guaranteed. Drug Free"

I saw this girl, good bang for the buck. She is as advertized. Not gfe but pleasant. Very hot body. She asks for 1.5 for a 1/2 hr session but you can negotiate. She is located in Collinsville area.