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IndyGuy123
11-23-16, 23:40
The Underground.

After much deliberation by a focus group in the area, a name was selected for this new thread.

For those that are not familiar with Indy's "The Prickyard", this is intended to be for the same purpose. The Underground is your home to fight or have meaningless fun posts. If you want to argue, it comes here. If you want to just fuck around and make fun posts, put it here. This keeps the review threads for that purpose and keeps you off moderation for arguing.

Most of the other rules still apply on this thread, the argumentative ones are gone. I will warn you, no threats. This is the internet, you can call somebody a douche all you want but the line is when you try to move it into reality. If you do it, A2 will still take action.

Indy Guy aka The Biggest Prick in the Yard aka The CEO aka The Reverend of The Right Red and now for one small place on the site I can be called The Moderator.

XNatalieX
11-24-16, 00:04
The Underground.

After much deliberation by a focus group in the area, a name was selected for this new thread.

For those that are not familiar with Indy's "The Prickyard", this is intended to be for the same purpose. The Underground is your home to fight or have meaningless fun posts. If you want to argue, it comes here. If you want to just fuck around and make fun posts, put it here. This keeps the review threads for that purpose and keeps you off moderation for arguing.

Most of the other rules still apply on this thread, the argumentative ones are gone. I will warn you, no threats. This is the internet, you can call somebody a douche all you want but the line is when you try to move it into reality. If you do it, A2 will still take action.

Indy Guy aka The Biggest Prick in the Yard aka The CEO aka The Reverend of The Right Red and now for one small place on the site I can be called The Moderator.Oh sweet sweet hobby hubby of mine. Do you feel like the big guy on campus now? I bet you do!

P.S. When it comes to IG. I'm the Right Red he is referring to.

IndyGuy123
11-24-16, 00:12
First, I appologize it took 9 days to respond, but I have been busy working out in California. IndyGuy, once again I will make this simple to understand for you and all of your knuckle dragging cousins down south:

The reason she always calls you once we are exhausted from our Monday morning gathering is kind of like Thanksgiving Dinner. You know how you eat a lot of turkey, mashed potatoes, stuffing, candied yams, cranberry sauce, fresh backed rolls, green been casserole and the likes. You are so stuffed that you couldn't even think of eating anything else. But 20 min. Later someone mentions pumpkin pie and you think, "I'm stuffed, content, fully satisfied, but a little piece of pie sounds good".

You are the little piece of pie. The afterthought following the great main course. Your cute, sweet, unnecessary for fulfillment, but kind of a staple.Sap, my friend, I thought you knew her better than that. She has a sweet tooth. Her favorite part of the meal is Daddy's Pumpkin Pie. Of course being the caring man I am, I bring along a new can of whip cream everytime. She loves my pie so much the cream goes all over her. We all know the dessert is the part you can't get enough of so you keep going back for more and more. Even one helping was good but it was so good that you keep coming back for more and more because it was so good.

Now this leads me to today's revelation. She did say something in regards to having a little junior sized meal on Monday. She just kept saying something was missing from the snack size meal. Turns out there was no stuffing. Of course she knew I got covered so she finally got her greatest fulfillment dessert and the actually stuffing that was not in the Monday meal. Always glad to finish up the menu when someone couldn't deliver on the promised courses.

Indy Guy the Mod.

BobUp
11-28-16, 17:35
As of 4:20 today BP is down. I think noobie finally wore the fucker out!

XNatalieX
11-28-16, 18:51
As of 4:20 today BP is down. I think noobie finally wore the fucker out!Its all the new pictures I keep taking. He just can't help himself but to look dozens of times each day.

Noobie67
11-29-16, 06:11
Its all the new pictures I keep taking. He just can't help himself but to look dozens of times each day.That statement is completely untrue. It was from watching your videos over and over. LOL.

Noobie67
11-29-16, 06:15
What have we done? I was trying to make peace but knuckle dragging IG is in charge?

I pray to A2 that he did not give him banning powers! I won't be around along if he did.

IndyGuy123
11-29-16, 12:59
What have we done? I was trying to make peace but knuckle dragging IG is in charge?

I pray to A2 that he did not give him banning powers! I won't be around along if he did.You and Bobup can only point the fingers are yourself. My friend, you better tread lightly or you will see the powers I have or maybe not.

North-of-Indy Guy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap4xNExgM4U

SoftHands225
11-29-16, 14:43
You and Bobup can only point the fingers are yourself. My friend, you better tread lightly or you will see the powers I have or maybe not.

North-of-Indy Guy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap4xNExgM4ULighten up Francis. LOL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OnpkDWbeJs

BobUp
11-29-16, 20:00
The Underground.

After much deliberation by a focus group in the area, a name was selected for this new thread.


... and now for one small place on the site I can be called The Moderator.The Moderator:

So, what you're saying is you're A-2's Mini Me? Now that'll surely make him proud. (Sic.

IndyGuy123
11-29-16, 20:42
The Moderator:

So, what you're saying is you're A-2's Mini Me? Now that'll surely make him proud. (Sic.Ok I will give credit when it is due. That was pretty good!

Although a few of you know me and if I am mini then A2 is one big ass mofo.

Indy Guy.

Unico Vp
11-29-16, 22:31
Putting IndyGuy in charge of moderating a board is like giving a monkey a machine gun. Sure, it sounds cute, but nothing good is going to come from it.

All in favor of building the wall along HWY 30?

I promise that Indianapolis will pay for it.

Unico Vp
11-29-16, 22:48
Sap, my friend, I thought you knew her better than that. She has a sweet tooth. Her favorite part of the meal is Daddy's Pumpkin Pie. Of course being the caring man I am, I bring along a new can of whip cream everytime. She loves my pie so much the cream goes all over her. We all know the dessert is the part you can't get enough of so you keep going back for more and more. Even one helping was good but it was so good that you keep coming back for more and more because it was so good.

Now this leads me to today's revelation. She did say something in regards to having a little junior sized meal on Monday. She just kept saying something was missing from the snack size meal. Turns out there was no stuffing. Of course she knew I got covered so she finally got her greatest fulfillment dessert and the actually stuffing that was not in the Monday meal. Always glad to finish up the menu when someone couldn't deliver on the promised courses.

Indy Guy the Mod.In your case, I believe you would call it dressing, not stuffing. That's right, I know about your wardrobe demonstration for the ladies. I will spare everyone else the pictures of you in a nighty and high heals. Our favorite Red head did not give you up intentionally, she talks in her sleep after passing out from great sex. I guess you wouldn't know that.

S5.

IndyGuy123
11-29-16, 23:04
Careful, we do touch your stuff when you go back to Indy.
Lighten up Francis. LOL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OnpkDWbeJsDon't I know. Why do you think I pack up my toys (or in this case toy) and take back with me to Indy so often.

Indy Guy.

Unico Vp
11-29-16, 23:18
That statement is completely untrue. It was from watching your videos over and over. LOL.Noobie, stop looking at pictures and watching videos of her and just book a damn appointment. Trust me, it's better in person.

S5.

IndyGuy123
11-30-16, 11:32
In your case, I believe you would call it dressing, not stuffing. That's right, I know about your wardrobe demonstration for the ladies. I will spare everyone else the pictures of you in a nighty and high heals.Sap,
This is where all your replies to me go drastically off track. You miss all the important details. It wasn't a nightie and heels. It was stockings and a thong. Dummy! Be sure to ask her for the jacket picture although I am sure it will not give you the same arousing result. BTW. I knew those would get out. She loves getting me mad so I turn her over my knee.


Our favorite Red head did not give you up intentionally, she talks in her sleep after passing out from great sex.That is called boredom sir. If you truly knew her, you would know after an O (and no not the fake ones you get) her heart is racing so much that she can't sleep.

Indy Guy.

P.S.-Jabbing back and forth is all good but is not meant as the sole reason for this thread.

IndyGuy123
11-30-16, 11:38
Putting IndyGuy in charge of moderating a board is like giving a monkey a machine gun. Sure, it sounds cute, but nothing good is going to come from it.

All in favor of building the wall along HWY 30?

I promise that Indianapolis will pay for it.Some of your northern coherts asked for me to be in charge. Dissension in the ranks?

And a wall? Once again your dementia is showing through. That was tried and failed. The ranking officers if the Knights and I struck a peace accord.

Indy Guy.

Unico Vp
12-01-16, 00:02
Some of your northern coherts asked for me to be in charge. Dissension in the ranks?

And a wall? Once again your dementia is showing through. That was tried and failed. The ranking officers if the Knights and I struck a peace accord.

Indy Guy.A kiss. Blame the North, the South, the East, the West, hell man you can blame it on the aliens at Area 51 if you believe in them for all I care. No matter who did it, the monkey still has the machine gun. Stop worrying about who gave the monkey the machine gun and just figure out how to get him to put the gun down.

IndyGuy123
12-01-16, 10:58
I know we aint met yet in person so the mistake is understandable. However, you have seen pics of my big burly self so you know I ain't no monkey. I am more of a gorilla!

You will see for yourself when you come to Indy. Or will you be a USA flake?

Gorilla Guy.


A kiss. Blame the North, the South, the East, the West, hell man you can blame it on the aliens at Area 51 if you believe in them for all I care. No matter who did it, the monkey still has the machine gun. Stop worrying about who gave the monkey the machine gun and just figure out how to get him to put the gun down.

IndyGuy123
12-02-16, 13:16
After months of research & countless texts, emails, conversations, I've made my choice hands down. Based on reviews, her adds, photograph's & all around professionalism it's got to be Nat!
Nat is your reading this I hope you'll accept my request for an appointment as it will be my 1st ever!


Good choice.
But a word of caution Natalie's been known to turn men into babbling fools just ask that big knuckle dragger from Indy.Damn Skippy! Ever learned the term run before you walk! Apparently not.

Ms. Nat may not be more than you can chew (watch out she may take a bite out of you) but ever had a 500 gorilla with a machine gun waiting for you in a parking lot. I always have my gun loaded. Always cocked, locked, and ready to hit even the hardest of targets. I have went on missions thru the mountains, many red forests, and many a warm wet cavern. All of these missions have allowed the gorilla from down south to perfect my camoflague skills and you wouldn't even see it coming. Not sure how long you been lurking but these camo skills were put to the test with repeated missions past the wall that a handful of guys from the SB area built to try and keep me out. Thankfully we finally came to a peace accord and have open asset trade between the regions. Once those papers were signed on a stippers chest, I willfully but the fatigues away for a day when I would need them one again. Looks like that day is here!

Indy Guy aka The Gorilla with a Gun.

Unico Vp
12-02-16, 14:51
I know we aint met yet in person so the mistake is understandable. However, you have seen pics of my big burly self so you know I ain't no monkey. I am more of a gorilla!

You will see for yourself when you come to Indy. Or will you be a USA flake?

Gorilla Guy.You sir, are correct. I surrender to the master. Gorilla with a machine gun it is.

IndyGuy123
12-02-16, 16:34
You sir, are correct. I surrender to the master. Gorilla with a machine gun it is.Hopefully I got many more years before I start shootings blanks or run out of ammo. Or just as bad when it goes soft!

Indy Guy.

Unico Vp
12-03-16, 11:42
Hopefully I got many more years before I start shootings blanks or run out of ammo. Or just as bad when it goes soft!

Indy Guy.Thanks to the advancements in modern chemistry, neither of us will ever have to worry about that. Our pricks will be standing tall long after we are gone.

S5.

BobUp
12-07-16, 19:11
What is your opinion or reaction to upsell? Especially in the heat of the moment.

I was surprised with that today in an inopportune moment. I declined when I suggested later That I thought it was not a good idea to upsell reply was no one has complained before? I did not think it was a business practice but maybe it's just me. Your thoughts?

BTW, sweet girl, nice time and will return, I was just taken back some.

Unico Vp
12-08-16, 07:59
What is your opinion or reaction to upsell? Especially in the heat of the moment.

I was surprised with that today in an inopportune moment. I declined when I suggested later That I thought it was not a good idea to upsell reply was no one has complained before? I did not think it was a business practice but maybe it's just me. Your thoughts?

BTW, sweet girl, nice time and will return, I was just taken back some.From the Transporter: Rule #1 is no names.

Rule #2: The deal is the deal. Once we have made a deal, the terms can not be renegotiated or changed.

Rule #3: Never look in the package (in our case, never learn too much about the provider unless you are willing to accept the consequences).

So, once the deal is made, it can not be renegotiated for that deal. In my personal opinion, the up sell is a discussion of $$ for specific services and, as we all know, that would be wrong. Plus, with limited blood flow to the big head at the moment of the up sell, it's taking advantage of the handicapped.

IndyGuy123
12-08-16, 15:58
Natalie's post was inadvertently deleted. Reposting it.

Quote Originally Posted by Bobup.

What is your opinion or reaction to upsell? Especially in the heat of the moment.

My opinion is this.

A quality provider doesn't upsell whatsoever at any point of the session. The donation is for the time spent together and not for the activities that take place during the appointment. If a provider upsells for any one of the abbreviations we're all familiar with than she isn't GFE and shouldn't label herself as such. Donation & what you're expecting from the session should always be discussed & finalized before the session begins, and the provider (if she is a quality provider) doesn't change her mind during the session. I believe its incredibly rude to upsell during a session. There's nothing like being in the heat of the moment and she is asking more $ out of you!

(side note).

Speaking of quality providers. I really wish there were more providers other than myself that work hard to always provide great service, and actually care about the client. Yes there is a few that do, but that list continues to shorten for one reason or another. These ladies should think about getting on some verified sites and begin advertising here on the sister site. Make it easier for you mongers to know if they're legit or someone to stay far away from. If you meet a great provider in this area then tell her about advertising on USAAC. I've become friends with several of the top notch providers out of Indianapolis, we tour together, we offer duos to certain clients, we're in contact with eachother on a daily basis. Wish there were ladies in this area to have that sort of bond with but they just don't care to know eachother haha.

How ironic that my 1000th post would be fixing a fuck up that involved her. LOL.

Unico Vp
12-09-16, 23:09
Due to a personal, health related issue, I will be taking a leave of absence from our hobby. At least 8 weeks, possibly up to 12 weeks. Apparently being overweight, being old, eating lots of pasta and traveling extensively for work are not good for your heart. Mine showed me that the hard way.

Keep the home fires burning while I'm recovering. I will truly miss Ms. Natalie the most.

XNatalieX
12-10-16, 04:49
Due to a personal, health related issue, I will be taking a leave of absence from our hobby. At least 8 weeks, possibly up to 12 weeks. Apparently being overweight, being old, eating lots of pasta and traveling extensively for work are not good for your heart. Mine showed me that the hard way.

Keep the home fires burning while I'm recovering. I will truly miss Ms. Natalie the most.I'm going to be having withdraws from our amazing Monday mornings together! You take all the time that you need to recover hun and you know my number so don't hesitate to text me! I'll be more than happy to meet you sometime for a HEALTHY lunch or dinner. I'm honored to have spent all the wonderful times we've had together and will truly miss seeing you during your time away from the hobby.

Get yourself better Sap! I got to HAVE MY Monday MORNINGS WITH YOU!

IndyGuy123
12-10-16, 12:24
Due to a personal, health related issue, I will be taking a leave of absence from our hobby. At least 8 weeks, possibly up to 12 weeks. Apparently being overweight, being old, eating lots of pasta and traveling extensively for work are not good for your heart. Mine showed me that the hard way.

Keep the home fires burning while I'm recovering. I will truly miss Ms. Natalie the most.Sorry to hear that friend. Leave of absense or not this does not relieve you of the obligation to meet up with me when you are down this way. We will just alter the planned establishment to one that won't get you heart racing too much! On the other hand maybe it would be a good idea. Just looking would only get the ticker going slightly. It would be like taking a brisk walk.

Indy Guy.

BobUp
12-12-16, 14:32
Due to a personal, health related issue, I will be taking a leave of absence from our hobby. At least 8 weeks, possibly up to 12 weeks. Apparently being overweight, being old, eating lots of pasta and traveling extensively for work are not good for your heart. Mine showed me that the hard way.

Keep the home fires burning while I'm recovering. I will truly miss Ms. Natalie the most.Sorry to hear about your health problems that's got to suck. As you recuperate it'll give you more time to read the boards. That might even help you with withdrawal symptoms from the hobby, LOL.

It does have a bright side though, leaves the rest of us poor saps more options.

Just maybe I’ll just have to free up MY Monday mornings.

Noobie67
12-15-16, 07:56
Due to a personal, health related issue, I will be taking a leave of absence from our hobby. At least 8 weeks, possibly up to 12 weeks. Apparently being overweight, being old, eating lots of pasta and traveling extensively for work are not good for your heart. Mine showed me that the hard way.

Keep the home fires burning while I'm recovering. I will truly miss Ms. Natalie the most.Sap,

Sounds like we have a similar health interest. One thing they will tell you in heart rehab is that it is very important to get your heart rate up for at least 30 minutes everyday.

After doing plenty of research, there is one activity that always came up on how to get your heart rate up. Although walking a treadmill, or stair steppers, or jogging are all good things. They weren't the one thing that came up all the time.

So, get yourself fixed and then make a plan to give that heart a workout and get that heart rate up everyday. I am sure that therapist Nat can help with that!

Be safe, get well!

Noobie.

IndyGuy123
12-15-16, 09:47
that MF'er better get a second job or hit the lottery!



So, get yourself fixed and then make a plan to give that heart a workout and get that heart rate up everyday.Sincerely Signed,
Indy "Baby Daddy" Guy.

Unico Vp
12-17-16, 18:48
They are truly appreciated. Everything seems to be going well post cardiac arrest. Now the rehabilitation and complete overhaul of my diet. Plus exercise. Thinking I should have just run into the light.

Should be back in mid February.

Keep Miss Natalie warm for me.

Sapper5.

XNatalieX
12-24-16, 12:50
This has been a great year for me! Thanks to all my clients and past ones that made it a very sexual year for me but loved every minute of it! I hope this next year will bring plenty of amazing new providers because we all know there's a shortage, and being a low volume provider I can't keep up with all of you lmao. Enjoy your Christmas and to all the providers that I know will be posting on Christmas I hope you can make the best of it. I've been there before and know how tough it is.

Xoxo Natalie.

P.S. If I end up going into retirement this next year be sure to blame IndyGuy123 because he will be the cause of it LOL.

IndyGuy123
12-25-16, 01:33
P.S. If I end up going into retirement this next year be sure to blame IndyGuy123 because he will be the cause of it LOL.Don't worry. I won't gloat to much.

Oh hell who am I fucking kidding? Yes I will.

Indy Guy.

Unico Vp
12-25-16, 21:25
Don't worry. I won't gloat to much.

Oh hell who am I fucking kidding? Yes I will.

Indy Guy.If she retires before I return, you and I will have a serious problem. I am not benieth posting your cross-dressing photo shoot if I have to. I'm just saying.

By the way, Merry Christmas.

Lloyd Braun 93
12-25-16, 23:18
Merry Christmas to you as well my dear! It was a pleasure meeting you this year. Glad to hear things are going great for you!


This has been a great year for me! Thanks to all my clients and past ones that made it a very sexual year for me but loved every minute of it! I hope this next year will bring plenty of amazing new providers because we all know there's a shortage, and being a low volume provider I can't keep up with all of you lmao. Enjoy your Christmas and to all the providers that I know will be posting on Christmas I hope you can make the best of it. I've been there before and know how tough it is.

Xoxo Natalie.

P.S. If I end up going into retirement this next year be sure to blame IndyGuy123 because he will be the cause of it LOL.

IndyGuy123
12-26-16, 02:16
If she retires before I return, you and I will have a serious problem. I am not benieth posting your cross-dressing photo shoot if I have to. I'm just saying.

By the way, Merry Christmas.If it occurs that quick, I will post them myself!

Merry Christmas to you as well. I would like to say I got some good gifts today but all my gifts came last week.

Indy Guy.

XNatalieX
12-27-16, 19:54
There's a bit of white knighting going on recently for a few young ladies and I really hope that once this "feud" begins unfolding it doesn't end up burning some of you gents.

Noobie67
12-28-16, 07:42
There's a bit of white knighting going on recently for a few young ladies and I really hope that once this "feud" begins unfolding it doesn't end up burning some of you gents.Its not me this time! I'm retarded. Damn auto correct. Retired.

IndyGuy123
12-28-16, 09:51
Its not me this time! I'm retarded. Damn auto correct. Retired.Why does the term Freudian Slip come to mind.

Indy Guy.

BobUp
12-28-16, 22:54
There's a bit of white knighting going on recently for a few young ladies and I really hope that once this "feud" begins unfolding it doesn't end up burning some of you gents.That's quit an assumption their Nat. Just cause two "guys" have devoted 100% of their posts to two ladies you got to go and call white knighting.

As far as getting burned I have scar or two myself.

Noobie67
12-29-16, 05:29
Why does the term Freudian Slip come to mind.

Indy Guy.Not at all. No slip. It was on purpose. LOL!

IndyGuy123
12-29-16, 10:54
I would call this black knighting but I sure as hell know nothing I am packing can be misconstrued as black.

I have been sitting back and reading all the Mandy and Eliza stuff. Here are a couple observations. The whole phone / car / money thing is drama. This kind of drama routinely follows young IMMATURE providers and in my experience usually turns bad at some point. There is also the issue of compromised accounts and phone numbers not matching up. Both young ladies have contradicting stories and NO ONE knows the truth for sure but them. The biggest thing to me is the ad post times on BP. I routinely sees ads posted by one or both of them at 2 or 3 am. Providers are not posting at 3 am routinely unless they are up using.

Indy Guy digging underground.

P.S.- I have a good eye for this shit. Recently we had a new lady pop up in Indy. She was immediately on everyones got to see list. In a couple hours I found out she was an H addict and newly had moved to crack.

SouthBend
01-02-17, 14:22
Just saw an add where natalie will be taking a friend to SB. And possibly take more later on if everything goes well with this one. I'm actually excited about this possibility because we need talent in the area. Plus I'm always very skeptic about new dreams because of all the nightmares we have in the area. But with Natalie backing them up. I feel more comfortable LOL so come on guys let's not mess this up

Btw thanks to Natalie for everything she does

SoftHands225
01-02-17, 15:23
Just saw an add where natalie will be taking a friend to SB. And possibly take more later on if everything goes well with this one. I'm actually excited about this possibility because we need talent in the area. Plus I'm always very skeptic about new dreams because of all the nightmares we have in the area. But with Natalie backing them up. I feel more comfortable LOL so come on guys let's not mess this up

Btw thanks to Natalie for everything she doesThis is a great opportunity to bring some verified and dependable talent though our area. Something we are lacking currently. Sara helped organize a group trip of providers out to Iowa, so this certainly has potential to be a very good thing for us up here. Lets try to put our best foor forward and be welcoming to her!

XNatalieX
01-02-17, 16:02
I like keeping you guys safe whenever I can because we all know it helps that I'm on the provider end of this hobby and plenty of Intel on the local girls. I do have more than a handful of girlfriends based in Indianapolis. All body types galore. I also understand there's a lack of spinners in south bend because unfortunately you'll have 10 horrible dreams trying to find that diamond. Just how it goes with the spinner type but I do have a spinner girlfriend. Or two. Glad I can be of assistance.

Sarag
01-02-17, 20:38
This is a great opportunity to bring some verified and dependable talent though our area. Something we are lacking currently. Sara helped organize a group trip of providers out to Iowa, so this certainly has potential to be a very good thing for us up here. Lets try to put our best foor forward and be welcoming to her!I appreciate all the kind words and am looking forward to my first trip up north. I try to take care of my guys and girls in more ways than one. Wink wink. I know I am not everyone's cup of tea but sometimes a change can be refreshing.

XNatalieX
01-02-17, 21:57
I appreciate all the kind words and am looking forward to my first trip up north. I try to take care of my guys and girls in more ways than one. Wink wink. I know I am not everyone's cup of tea but sometimes a change can be refreshing.Sara has put together not one but two trips last year that I've had the pleasure going on with a few of our girlfriends. I'm so very thankful for the gorgeous ladies I can call my friends that are based out of Indianapolis. I've had the pleasure of meeting the local provider Economic Stimulus Package and have talked on the phone several times with her friend Abbey. They're lovely ladies but unfortunately the other local providers simply don't care about this hobby and have their mind on one thing (I'm honored to have built such a fantastic reputation for myself and hope that some of the other South Bend providers will follow in my footsteps because you gentlemen deserve more of a variety and a safe variety at that! I'm hoping Sara is just the beginning of the beautiful ladies that I can get to visit our little town, but please remember that her visiting here can make or break that from happening. Whether she thinks this or not she is the head honcho of our little group of ladies hahaha. You guys have no idea what you're missing out on!

Unico Vp
01-02-17, 22:12
I appreciate all the kind words and am looking forward to my first trip up north. I try to take care of my guys and girls in more ways than one. Wink wink. I know I am not everyone's cup of tea but sometimes a change can be refreshing.Thank you to Miss Natalie for setting this up (I just wish the timing was better), and thank you Miss Sarah for gracing us with your presence. Enjoy your stay in our neck of the woods. I hope we we treat you well enough that you decide to come back again when I am available.

Stay safe and have fun.

S5.

Vtrzr4527
01-02-17, 23:32
There's a bit of white knighting going on recently for a few young ladies and I really hope that once this "feud" begins unfolding it doesn't end up burning some of you gents.Not sure if I would call it White Knighting but whatever.

IndyGuy123
01-03-17, 10:52
Thank you to Miss Natalie for setting this up (I just wish the timing was better), and thank you Miss Sarah for gracing us with your presence. Enjoy your stay in our neck of the woods. I hope we we treat you well enough that you decide to come back again when I am available.

Stay safe and have fun.

S5.Sara,
Don't be fooled! You don't want to see Sap. .

(Enough of this New Year's mooshy mooshy stuff).

Indy Guy.

Unico Vp
01-03-17, 12:55
Sara,
Don't be fooled! You don't want to see Sap. .

(Enough of this New Year's mooshy mooshy stuff).

Indy Guy.Harsh there Indy Guy. Just because I have become in touch with my emotions since my heart attack, does not mean I won't kick the living. Aww, I think you need a big old hug buddy. 5 weeks until I return.

S5.

IndyGuy123
01-04-17, 11:59
Just because I have become in touch with my emotions since my heart attackDamn you needed a heart attack to get in touch with them. Most of us are frequently. Just some times those emotions are in the form of a redhead (or blonde or brunette depending on your preference) while others are in the form of Rosie Palmer and her 5 sisters.


Aww, I think you need a big old hug buddy.Not by you big sexy beast. Might make me have to go get in touch with my emotions. LOL.

Indy Guy.

Sarag
01-04-17, 20:14
Sara,
Don't be fooled! You don't want to see Sap. .

(Enough of this New Year's mooshy mooshy stuff).

Indy Guy.Thank you Sap for the welcome and thank you IG for the warning. LOL.

IndyGuy123
01-06-17, 19:01
She is a real sweetheart and I had a great time, we talked quite a bit and she shared a number of photos on her phone. You guys dow south really need to be more careful of your attire or lack thereof when she has her camera available. LOL.I think Ms Sarag and I are going to have a little chat when she returns!

Well I can say you know the photographer of said photos.

Indy Guy.

XNatalieX
01-07-17, 10:17
How a provider can have prior incidents of ripping people off and even more that haven't been reported because they're not members here (clients that have seen me have been ripped off by said provider) but yet again. Second report on here of this happening and of course there's guys who think its a fabricated report. What good would it do for a senior member to lie about being ripped off, Especially having corresponding emails with her setting up the outcall. Yeah let's not believe that a desperate provider won't do something out of the norm. She came on last time and defended herself saying her boyfriend was the reason for the rip offs. Maybe she will say these guys put guns to her head and forced her to do this. I'm sure some guys here will continue to see her because she will probably lay low for awhile on the ripping off now that it was reported happening. Again. Sorry guys but its time to just face the facts.

XNatalieX
01-07-17, 12:29
Hey guys. Coming from a provider. Men do visit south bend on business and for other reasons. The guy was at a hotel. He was visiting. Just got a report that said provider is married / dating a thug. Take that as you will. I always respect the other ladies until I hear they're treating you guys badly. Then the redhead in me just turns into a you know what.

IndyGuy123
01-07-17, 13:14
Let me start off by saying I have never seen Jaylynn, never talked to her, and have no plans to do so. Although most of this post will be about her it is in fact intended to be a post about the hobby in general and many of the indisputable facts.

This whole situation is not the first report of a meeting gone bad. When I say gone bad, I do not mean a monger not enjoying themselves in play. I mean a C&D / ripoff / etc. Based on this situation, I went back and read EVER post for the last 15 months or so in regards to this lady. Counting this one there have been 3 accounts of her ripping someone off, one of legal problems, and one report saying it was an "ABSOLUTE FUCKING NIGHTMARE". Everytime a situation arises with this lady, a flock of guys come to her defense saying it must be a lie. Well on the first occurance, I believed myself it to be false. Then the second occurence, I believed it was time to keep your eyes and ears peeled. Now with the third occurence, I truly believe any and everyone is blind if you do not believe the story. Although the monger who reported this is not a known name in the SB area, he is trusted in the hobby. He is a senior member overall and I can tell you for a fact that is in on a well known verification site with many thumbs up from providers who he has seen and spoke positively of him.

The story here is everyone needs to know the full meaning of YMMV. That term is generally used to for a limited scope meaning menus vary or possible even donation variances. In reality it is intended for any hobby situation that has unknown factors. Most of these ladies have substances addiction issues / boyfriends / husbands / etc. All of these items can AT ANY MOMENT change their behavior. There is also an issue with the incall vs outcall. I have had experiences in the past where providers would have an incall and everything would be great. Then they have outcall and it all goes to shit. Many of these ladies do not have a vehicle or share one with a SO. If they do an outcall, the SO is now there with them and has an immediate impact. If in fact Jaylynn (or any other lady) was riding with a friend or SO, what do you think that person's last words were to her? "Hey I will sit out here for an hour in the freezing fucking cold with a great big smile on my face while that guy fucks you" or "If you get the chance, grab the money and run. It is too fucking cold for me to sit out here. " Being an outcall, the lady is away from her place so she is not making a scene where she stays and knows there is nearly no chance that you will call LE to say you were ripped off. There is the additional factor if the guy is not local. The lady knows the guy will mostly likely be going home and will not be around to try and harass her or try to get retribution.

In reference to J, perhaps she is innocent but I believe everyone should look at past questionable events before basically calling a senior member a liar. In reference to the entire hobby, even if she is innocent, everyone should be completely cognizant that crap happens like this all the time and no one should think they are above it.

Indy Guy.

SouthBend
01-07-17, 13:36
The points IG and Natalie are making are very solid. On my previous post regarding this subject it was mostly asking for more time in order for the water to clear. And it's slowing becoming apparent that what many of us fellow mongers refused to believe is becoming likely. Maybe it's time to come out of denial and face the facts like Natalie said. Not just about this subject but in the overall hobby. I hope that everything clears up for the best.

IndyGuy123
01-07-17, 15:46
The points IG and Natalie are making are very solid. On my previous post regarding this subject it was mostly asking for more time in order for the water to clear. And it's slowing becoming apparent that what many of us fellow mongers refused to believe is becoming likely. Maybe it's time to come out of denial and face the facts like Natalie said. Not just about this subject but in the overall hobby. I hope that everything clears up for the best.SB,
What you doing? Going for the cliff notes version of my long post? LOL.
Anytime a woman is married, the game can change at any minute when he gets tired of it.

Indy Guy.

Unico Vp
01-07-17, 18:22
SB,
What you doing? Going for the cliff notes version of my long post? LOL.
Anytime a woman is married, the game can change at any minute when he gets tired of it.

Indy Guy.Are you trying to tell me that there are providers out there who have started out with great reputations, increadible service, and excellent professionalism within this hobby, but over time have fallen off to the dark side of this little thing that we all do? Shocking. Simply shocking.

The reality has already been stated by IG and of course the shorter version by SB. At any given moment during this hobby, anyone is capable of anything. I have been burnt before, so have others. Reviews are nice, but unreliable for the most part because, as my investment guy always says, past performance is not indicative of future results. If you play our game long enough, you will experience everything. That is why most of us find a few providers that we like, feel we can trust, and stick with them. However, even with an established stable of beautiful vixens to play with, we take our chances with every meeting. Nothing gaurentees that Uncle LEO is not behind the door this time, no matter how many times you have seen the provider before. Nothing gaurentees that she won't take your money and run this time, even though the last 50+ visits have been great. Just like nothing gaurentees that the monger won't be a total assbag this visit, no matter how many times she has seen him before.

Despite two prior reports of bad activity by the woman in question, the monger chose to go see her. Then, when it all turns to crap, wonders why. I'm glad he shared his experience with us, but I had written her off long long ago. If I wanted drama in my life and no sex while experiencing the drama, I would have stayed married.

S5.

SoftHands225
01-07-17, 23:01
Just an FYI for those keeping up with this provider, she is posting tonight with a new number and under Sunshine, she has used this name or Sweet Sunshine in the past, just want to make sure people are aware of who she is ifeeling they have not followed her history closer. Buyer beware. YMMV.

SoftHands225
01-07-17, 23:06
Forgot to add the link to the new ad.

http://southbend.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-sunshine/16380515

NwcRocker
01-08-17, 10:38
Are you trying to tell me that there are providers out there who have started out with great reputations, increadible service, and excellent professionalism within this hobby, but over time have fallen off to the dark side of this little thing that we all do? Shocking. Simply shocking.

The reality has already been stated by IG and of course the shorter version by SB. At any given moment during this hobby, anyone is capable of anything. I have been burnt before, so have others. Reviews are nice, but unreliable for the most part because, as my investment guy always says, past performance is not indicative of future results. If you play our game long enough, you will experience everything. That is why most of us find a few providers that we like, feel we can trust, and stick with them. However, even with an established stable of beautiful vixens to play with, we take our chances with every meeting. Nothing gaurentees that Uncle LEO is not behind the door this time, no matter how many times you have seen the provider before. Nothing gaurentees that she won't take your money and run this time, even though the last 50+ visits have been great. Just like nothing gaurentees that the monger won't be a total assbag this visit, no matter how many times she has seen him before.

Despite two prior reports of bad activity by the woman in question, the monger chose to go see her. Then, when it all turns to crap, wonders why. I'm glad he shared his experience with us, but I had written her off long long ago. If I wanted drama in my life and no sex while experiencing the drama, I would have stayed married.

S5.I haven't had a dream with her personally but I have to agree with everything you guys (and gal) have said about it. I just also want to note a couple things; on her website laylynn2585callfiles.com it does have an option for outcalls. Also I noticed that she's been posting on BP today which she normally doesn't do. I just find it a little suspect that she hasn't advertised in a couple months and if I remember right the last time she advertised on BP was when there were reports of her ripping guys off. Just a pattern that we should keep an eye on seems like maybe she's desperate for money. Thanks for all you guys knowledge I'm really enjoying The Underground section here.

NwcRocker
01-08-17, 11:04
Another thing I just thought of she posted on BP as Sunshine again with her black hair or wig or whatever. I believe she explained why she advertised on BP as Sunshine before but it got deleted I think because it was on borderline with advertising. With that said I can't think of a single reason why an established reliable provider would want to get away from her reputation except of course if her reputation gets tainted. All I'm trying to say is I would think if she was going to post on BP she wouldn't try to hide from her reputation. I don't see Natalie suddenly calling herself Jackie or ever putting up an ad without her name unless of course it was an honest mistake.

SouthBend
01-08-17, 15:38
SB,
What you doing? Going for the cliff notes version of my long post? LOL.
Anytime a woman is married, the game can change at any minute when he gets tired of it.

Indy Guy.Sorry IG but some mongers just want to get it on and don't have much time to read your novels haha jk.

On a side note . Very sad what's happening to this said provider. Now I have to start looking for another spinner. Come on guys. Someone send a pm of some good spinner. It's hard for me to come back from my trip and realize my spinner isn't what I thought she was LOL.

XNatalieX
01-08-17, 16:42
Sorry IG but some mongers just want to get it on and don't have much time to read your novels haha jk.

On a side note . Very sad what's happening to this said provider. Now I have to start looking for another spinner. Come on guys. Someone send a pm of some good spinner. It's hard for me to come back from my trip and realize my spinner isn't what I thought she was LOL.They don't exist! The ones in this area all have drama, issues, or something even worse. I'm sorry. You guys know I'll inform you of any spinners I know are safe and trying to bring more of my girlfriends up from Indy. I promise you'll have 10 nightmares trying to find that one spinner that's a gem. Just how it goes in our area. If you want quality spinners travel to Indianapolis. You won't find any within a 2 hour radius. I do know a spinner. She is a friend and she does advertise but I wouldn't tell you guys who it is because I found her walking LWW in SB. And she wasn't walking anywhere but into someone's car to make a quick buck.

P.S. I want to give a forewarning that this is my last year providing. IndyGuy will probably put a ring on this finger of mine and move me down to Indy.

Unico Vp
01-09-17, 12:18
The priesthood. Natalie is retiring by the end of the year, Aksana is a hot mess, and Jaylynn is robbing clients. Once again, this is what happens when you play nice with the people from Indianapolis. Like they told me in the ARMY 25 years ago: you have to blame someone when thing go south. I'm blaming Indy Guy. It's all his fault, including global warming, Russian hacking, Cancer, and healthcare.

S5.

SouthBend
01-09-17, 15:37
Aksana too! What is going on? I take a trip to Thailand for a few weeks and when I come back all this is happening? What did you guys do? Haha jk. But seriously wth are we going to do. Some new talent better move to the area permanently. They can make a killing since there wouldn't be much competition except for Natalie it seems.

IndyGuy123
01-09-17, 16:03
The priesthood. Natalie is retiring by the end of the year, Aksana is a hot mess, and Jaylynn is robbing clients. Once again, this is what happens when you play nice with the people from Indianapolis. Like they told me in the ARMY 25 years ago: you have to blame someone when thing go south. I'm blaming Indy Guy. It's all his fault, including global warming, Russian hacking, Cancer, and healthcare.Hey now! My impact of debauchery only has so much impact. Go ahead and blame me for most all those things. I like to fuck shit up. Just don't blame me for the Russians. I only speak two languages and one of them ain't Russian. The other two are English and Cunnilingual.

Maybe if the market in your area is really that dry upon someones departure another quality provider will move in to fill the void seeing a potential gold mine.

Indy Guy
PS- When I can fit it in, I will try my hand at speaking a little Greek.

XNatalieX
01-09-17, 16:13
Indy Guy
PS- When I can fit it in, I will try my hand at speaking a little Greek.You'll be the reason greek will be on my menu **wink wink*.

Unico Vp
01-09-17, 21:16
You'll be the reason greek will be on my menu **wink wink*.Does Indy Guy dress in drag when you are giving him Greek?

XNatalieX
01-09-17, 23:19
It's exactly this reason why I'm thankful to be an established and highly reviewed provider! I can breathe a sigh of relief knowing I have all my wonderful clients that see me on a routinely basis. I also have other avenues such as USA adult classifieds, P411, Datecheck, etc that will continue on resulting in me not needing to depend on BP. Creating a website is also beneficial for any provider that wants to be successful.

I can't even imagine what will be going through all the local ladies minds once they notice the censorship.

Well gentlemen time to head over to the sister site - www.usaadultclassifieds.com - you can find me over there!

XNatalieX
01-10-17, 02:38
Well gentlemen time to head over to the sister site - www.usaadultclassifieds.com - you can find me over there!Actually the correct website is Usaadultclassifieds.info.

IndyGuy123
01-10-17, 02:46
Does Indy Guy dress in drag when you are giving him Greek?Don't be a hater! Apparently you have never fully allowed a redhead vixen to have her way and get satisfied fully. Notice I said her satisfied and not faked satisfaction. When she is truly satisfied her genetic difference in the MC1R gene takes over and she opens up. From there on out, you own her and she will let you do anything. If you"re lucky, she may even call you Daddy! LOL.

Indy Guy.

Freckle Freak
01-19-17, 10:46
All you mongers and provider (yes that is singular since Natalie seems to be the only SB provider poster on this blog) started your own Social Media Blog to get all of your convo's off of the main threads! It should be easier to actually read reports and reviews now.

So that being said. Can anyone tell me about Mandy the petite redhead with freckles? Damn she is f'ing hot. Is she full GFE? Any concerns other than she and Eliza had a falling out? I think she could use the magical freckle massage from a freckle freak!

BobUp
01-19-17, 16:52
All you mongers and provider (yes that is singular since Natalie seems to be the only SB provider poster on this blog) started your own Social Media Blog to get all of your convo's off of the main threads! It should be easier to actually read reports and reviews now.

So that being said. Can anyone tell me about Mandy the petite redhead with freckles? Damn she is f'ing hot. Is she full GFE? Any concerns other than she and Eliza had a falling out? I think she could use the magical freckle massage from a freckle freak!I swear FF has a nose to rival any bloodhound the man can smell freckles from 150 miles away.

SoftHands225
01-20-17, 19:50
All you mongers and provider (yes that is singular since Natalie seems to be the only SB provider poster on this blog) started your own Social Media Blog to get all of your convo's off of the main threads! It should be easier to actually read reports and reviews now.

So that being said. Can anyone tell me about Mandy the petite redhead with freckles? Damn she is f'ing hot. Is she full GFE? Any concerns other than she and Eliza had a falling out? I think she could use the magical freckle massage from a freckle freak!FF, my understanding of the fallout was some shady behavior and substance use on the part of Miss Mandy. Although tempted to try both of them out, my spider senses have so far to stay away and stick to the SB providers kicking up less drama than these two seem to be.

IndyGuy123
01-21-17, 13:54
FF, my understanding of the fallout was some shady behavior and substance use on the part of Miss Mandy. Although tempted to try both of them out, my spider senses have so far to stay away and stick to the SB providers kicking up less drama than these two seem to be.Wise choice. Most of the time even chancing the drama or elevated risk just isn't worth it especially when there are quality safe options available (well unless I steal them form town for a couple weeks).

Indy Guy.

P.S.- Softhands, how did you like meeting "Amanda"?

SoftHands225
01-21-17, 14:42
Wise choice. Most of the time even chancing the drama or elevated risk just isn't worth it especially when there are quality safe options available (well unless I steal them form town for a couple weeks).

Indy Guy.

P.S.- Softhands, how did you like meeting "Amanda"?Well, Amanda was a little more hairy than I prefer, not that that is a deal breaker. However, the ass on that other chick was not to be missed. That would be a hell of a duo team.

IndyGuy123
01-21-17, 23:47
Well, Amanda was a little more hairy than I prefer, not that that is a deal breaker. However, the ass on that other chick was not to be missed. That would be a hell of a duo team.Maybe I will get both of them together again. I'll bring them to town so Sapper, Noobie, and Bobup can meet them first hand.

Indy Guy.

XNatalieX
01-22-17, 18:38
Are back to posting together. Do I really need to say much else? I would never forgive someone who stole from me. Exactly why I'm no longer friends with London.

BobUp
01-23-17, 00:54
Maybe I will get both of them together again. I'll bring them to town so Sapper, Noobie, and Bobup can meet them first hand.

Indy Guy.What's this "maybe" carp? Make it happen!

IndyGuy123
01-23-17, 01:10
I have been sitting back and reading all the Mandy and Eliza stuff. Here are a couple observations. The whole phone / car / money thing is drama. This kind of drama routinely follows young IMMATURE providers and in my experience usually turns bad at some point. There is also the issue of compromised accounts and phone numbers not matching up. Both young ladies have contradicting stories and NO ONE knows the truth for sure but them. The biggest thing to me is the ad post times on BP. I routinely sees ads posted by one or both of them at 2 or 3 am. Providers are not posting at 3 am routinely unless they are up using.

Indy Guy digging underground.So all the drama and crap between Mandy and Eliza just a few weeks back and now they are "reunited". A lot of serious accusations made just a few weeks back that seem to have been forgot all about real quickly. As I said, DRAMA!

Indy Guy.

IndyGuy123
01-23-17, 01:18
What's this "maybe" carp? Make it happen!I will send you pics tomorrow and you can decide if you want me to bring them up.

Indy Guy.

LuvGingerGirls
01-23-17, 18:20
Are back to posting together. Do I really need to say much else? I would never forgive someone who stole from me. Exactly why I'm no longer friends with London.I can't even begin to tell you how angry thieves make me. I had to break off a friendship once because the guy was bragging about how easy it is to break into cars and steal stuff. Then he showed me all the things he had stolen. I said right then and there that I couldn't hang out with him anymore. Because A: as mentioned, that pisses me off, and B: I didn't want to be a suspect for something I had absolutely no part in. (especially back then when I didn't really know how to talk to the police.).

Now, I will admit that I stole something from a store once.

ONCE.

When I was 10.

It felt like I had a rock in my chest for 2 weeks after that. That was the end of my burgling.

XNatalieX
01-23-17, 22:27
I don't appreciate people stealing either. London stole about $200-300 worth of makeup & bath & body stuff (Yes I love high end makeup and perfumes) and she did this to me after she dropped out of a program that would've saved her life in the long run & had nowhere to go, I gave her my incall to use for a week (didn't ask anything in return), vouched for her in ads because everyone knows I'm one of the most trusted providers, set her up with several of my regulars, & even though she made a nice chunk of change within that week due to all of my help. She goes ahead and steals from me anyways and takes off. That was my third and last time helping these girls get started in this hobby the best way IMAGINABLE. Even with all of this being said. It doesn't even come close on the reasons why I'd highly recommend everyone thinking long and hard before visiting with her. PM for details.

P.S. Don't think you're helping these girls out. They really could care less. If they had the chance to stab you in your back they will do it within seconds.

TwoToke
01-24-17, 09:45
I don't appreciate people stealing either. London stole about $200-300 worth of makeup & bath & body stuff (Yes I love high end makeup and perfumes) and she did this to me after she dropped out of a program that would've saved her life in the long run & had nowhere to go, I gave her my incall to use for a week (didn't ask anything in return), vouched for her in ads because everyone knows I'm one of the most trusted providers, set her up with several of my regulars, & even though she made a nice chunk of change within that week due to all of my help. She goes ahead and steals from me anyways and takes off. That was my third and last time helping these girls get started in this hobby the best way IMAGINABLE. Even with all of this being said. It doesn't even come close on the reasons why I'd highly recommend everyone thinking long and hard before visiting with her. PM for details.

P.S. Don't think you're helping these girls out. They really could care less. If they had the chance to stab you in your back they will do it within seconds.95% of these not such great providers are using hard drugs and why would you trust that. Yes if you are a gullible turd get out now you will be prayed on buy these manipulaters. Pay there lack luster service and don't answer ever there out of the blue calls can you help me out. We all get ripped off in life either family or so called friends it's a good lesson learned in trusting people trust yourself only you have your back. Your worst enemys sometimes are people you help and 95%of these lady's I wouldn't think twice in "NOT" helping her would she give me a free BJ that week because I'm broke I doubt it very much.

XNatalieX
01-25-17, 19:56
The one who spams BP with her ads is visiting the grey bar hotel as of early yesterday morning. She looked REALLY bad so I hope she receives the help she so desperately needs.

BobUp
01-26-17, 08:47
The one who spams BP with her ads is visiting the grey bar hotel as of early yesterday morning.Nothing like bringing negative attention to yourself like posting 15+ ads at one time. Personally, I hate weeding through multiple ads to me it screams Desperation.

IndyGuy123
01-26-17, 14:29
Guys, and I mean everyone not just you 2, we should take all the crap of Eliza and mandy to the underground. I think we have found out enough info of this 2 and now it's up to everyone to decide individually what to believe. That way we don't keep clogging this part of the site. And we really should stop white knighting when those 2 are clearly happy now. Just an advice.


Well then you were misinformed. She may have said that when things first happened. But it was another person that took those things, not Mandy.


I am going to have to disagree with this post, with the many dreams I've had with eliza she said mandy stole her car keys, money, mong other things.Moved to underground.

Unico Vp
01-26-17, 15:23
Are back to posting together. Do I really need to say much else? I would never forgive someone who stole from me. Exactly why I'm no longer friends with London.If Simon and Garfunkel, Dean Martin & Jerry Lewis, and Isaac and Ishmael can do it, why can't a couple of immature, mediocre service providers mend fences as well.

Gentlemen, there should be a little more to this than just making the beast with two backs. Quality of the location, discretion, professionalism, mutual respect for each others safety and integrity are just a few that come to mind. All of this applies to everyone in this hobby (except Indy Guy, I still hope he gets iritable bowel syndrome for the next 20 years).

S5.

P.S. Returning in 11 days and horny as hell. Lock up your favorite providers, I have a lot of make up time coming.

Unico Vp
01-26-17, 15:28
The one who spams BP with her ads is visiting the grey bar hotel as of early yesterday morning. She looked REALLY bad so I hope she receives the help she so desperately needs.To say hello to the former Miss Sadie from 2014. She is staying at that same hotel in South Bend. Maybe they can share their client lists with each other.

S5.

XNatalieX
01-27-17, 06:32
The white knighting going on through PM right now is like none I've ever witnessed before!

LuvGingerGirls
01-27-17, 12:36
If Simon and Garfunkel, Dean Martin & Jerry Lewis, and Isaac and Ishmael can do it, why can't a couple of immature, mediocre service providers mend fences as well.

Gentlemen, there should be a little more to this than just making the beast with two backs. Quality of the location, discretion, professionalism, mutual respect for each others safety and integrity are just a few that come to mind. All of this applies to everyone in this hobby (except Indy Guy, I still hope he gets iritable bowel syndrome for the next 20 years).

S5.

P.S. Returning in 11 days and horny as hell. Lock up your favorite providers, I have a lot of make up time coming.Even the Eagles got back together for another tour. Having said that, I still have no tolerance or compassion for thieves. And as someone who could not even look for work for three months because of IBS, I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Except thieves. As long as they're inconvenienced, the less opportunity they'll have to steal. (though instant Karma would be shitting themselves right in the middle of stealing.).

IndyGuy123
01-27-17, 13:03
The white knighting going on through PM right now is like none I've ever witnessed before!I prefer the knight below.

I do not know either of the ladies that have been in the center of this and highly doubt I will ever meet either one but want to say one thing. Just remember that no matter how well you think you know them, no matter how much they share, and no matter how much you believe them; there is a very remote chance they are telling you the truth or atleast the whole truth. The bottom line is you are a client and they will tell you whatever it takes to keep you as a client. We all know this but when the small head takes over it tends to cloud the logical thinking of the big head. If you think you are special, try to see her routinely (or even once or twice) for nothing. Better yet, take them out and see if they will offer to buy your steak dinner. If and when that happens, you might have broken that barrier. Until then take it all with a grain of salt even when the story seems plausible.

BTW. When you break that barrier, let me know and I will order your club ring. It is really more exclusive than 1% but we rounded it up. 0. 45%er wouldn't fit on the ring very well.

Indy Guy.

IndyGuy123
01-27-17, 13:14
(except Indy Guy, I still hope he gets iritable bowel syndrome for the next 20 years).Good lord Sap you do need to get laid. Many weeks away from the pleasures of the flesh and you are writing about me and my ass. Do not fret though my friend. I have a pair that I will bring up there just to see you on your welcome back day. This combo will give you all you can handle in the areas of a spinner and one a little more thick. A certain redhead friend of mine told me that the blonde is just your type!

Indy Guy.

SouthBend
01-27-17, 14:57
It always happens, and will continue to happen. I remember when I gave a provider a review. All I said was that yes her skills were still great and she overall had a good personality. BUT I no longer thought she was attractive or at least my type therefore it would no longer see her. But maybe it was others type. The amount of white knighting / hate mail I got in pm was incredible LOL. I guess that some guys just believe if they blindly defend this providers then they later on will get some special privileges. Sorry to break it down to you guys but it will most likely not happen. Also from our connections down south. If we could borrow an asian and Latin dream. I'm sure we would all be very thankfully LOL just saying.

XNatalieX
01-27-17, 15:24
http://southbend.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/kathy-100-00-full-hour/20016627

http://southbend.backpage.com/WomenSeekWomen/kathy-available-now/19904957

I know she is being asked about on another thread but wanted to point a few things out. The top two ads are her, but as you can tell the pictures are two completely different girls (red flag). The biggest red flag of all is her hourly rate being so low. I have 3 different thoughts on what could be wrong here. SW gone electronic, set up, or something is making her desperate for $. Be careful. Use big head not the little one.

Noobie67
01-27-17, 20:04
I prefer the knight below.

I do not know either of the ladies that have been in the center of this and highly doubt I will ever meet either one but want to say one thing. Just remember that no matter how well you think you know them, no matter how much they share, and no matter how much you believe them; there is a very remote chance they are telling you the truth or atleast the whole truth. The bottom line is you are a client and they will tell you whatever it takes to keep you as a client. We all know this but when the small head takes over it tends to cloud the logical thinking of the big head. If you think you are special, try to see her routinely (or even once or twice) for nothing. Better yet, take them out and see if they will offer to buy your steak dinner. If and when that happens, you might have broken that barrier. Until then take it all with a grain of salt even when the story seems plausible.

BTW. When you break that barrier, let me know and I will order your club ring. It is really more exclusive than 1% but we rounded it up. 0. 45%er wouldn't fit on the ring very well.

Indy Guy.Not in regards to the two being talked about but you might want to send me one of those rings. LOL.

Unico Vp
01-27-17, 21:43
BTW. When you break that barrier, let me know and I will order your club ring. It is really more exclusive than 1% but we rounded it up. 0. 45%er wouldn't fit on the ring very well.

Indy Guy.Dressing in drag and buying yourself a happy meal from the McDonalds drive through should not qualify you for the ring Sparky. I'm just saying. Hope your IBS kicks in soon.

S5.

LuvGingerGirls
01-28-17, 00:30
When you break that barrier, let me know and I will order your club ring. It is really more exclusive than 1% but we rounded it up. 0. 45%er wouldn't fit on the ring very well.

Indy Guy.I don't think this qualifies for a ring, but I got a free coffee date once. (well, I bought my own drink). I was all set to donate for time when we left when she said not to worry about it. I DID give her a drawing of her that came out pretty cool, despite how rusty I was at the time. So. It's not like I showed up empty handed and said, "Hey, can this drawing be my payment". (I still kinda feel like I stiffed her though. No pun intended.).

IndyGuy123
01-28-17, 01:28
Dressing in drag and buying yourself a happy meal from the McDonalds drive through should not qualify you for the ring Sparky. I'm just saying. Hope your IBS kicks in soon.

S5.You definitely need to open up your sexual palette my friend. One of those will turn a redheaded vixen into a veritable sex machine as she is so turned on. The other is a little after treat for a good baby girl.

Indy Guy.

P.S.- I'll be back up there next week. Since you repeatedly bail on your trip down here to Brad's pick a SC and I will let you kiss my ring.

LuvGingerGirls
01-31-17, 13:36
The one who spams BP with her ads is visiting the grey bar hotel as of early yesterday morning. She looked REALLY bad so I hope she receives the help she so desperately needs.When I searched the number it came up with her real name and address, and a couple of news stories where she had previously been arrested for the very same things. Going by the amount of arrest, she's going to need a lot of help to stay clean, but I've seen that it CAN be done!

IndyGuy123
01-31-17, 14:31
I hope she receives the help she so desperately needs.


she's going to need a lot of help to stay clean, but I've seen that it CAN be done!I just wish more of the ladies in this hobby were able to do this before it reached the point of LEO forcing the change or worse. The first step in this is admitting the issue which way too many will not do. It will take a number of providers out of the game but I for one would willfully take a loss on that level and know the lady received the help she needed.

Indy Guy.

P.S.- See I can actually be serious.

SouthBend
02-01-17, 18:23
When I searched the number it came up with her real name and address, and a couple of news stories where she had previously been arrested for the very same things. Going by the amount of arrest, she's going to need a lot of help to stay clean, but I've seen that it CAN be done!I search the number and didn't get anything. But I just search on social media. Would be nice to see her background but it would be more for pure curiosity then anything else since I don't have any intention of ever meeting. Funn thing is that I actually wanted to see her when I first got into the hobby. But that was for the first 10 minutes and after that I saw all the bad rep she has.

SouthBend
02-01-17, 18:32
I heard Hispanics have this thing called "las Mecánicas" which means "the girl mechanics" the rates are said to be lower then average and the girls not that bad. Even though I'm Hispanic myself I haven't had any luck with them. So was wondering if you guys had any contact info or any info for that matter.

LuvGingerGirls
02-02-17, 10:39
I search the number and didn't get anything. But I just search on social media. Would be nice to see her background but it would be more for pure curiosity then anything else since I don't have any intention of ever meeting. Funn thing is that I actually wanted to see her when I first got into the hobby. But that was for the first 10 minutes and after that I saw all the bad rep she has.Not sure if we're talking about the same Sunshine, but I'll PM you some details. http://southbend.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/little-sexy-busty-brunette-ready-to-play-tonight-call-sunshine-now/19884787.

BobUp
02-06-17, 10:51
The Prez has taken to Twitter to tweet about anything that pops into his head. I decided I would create my own platform "Twatter" so I can "Twat" out my pointless thoughts throughout the next couple of weeks.

Bobups Twat: Why is it a provider making $100 per hour thinks nothing of being late or wastes time fooling around in the bathroom while we wait?

BobUp
02-06-17, 12:30
Bobups Twat: Why is it a provider making $100 per hour thinks nothing of being late or wastes time fooling around in the bathroom while we wait?Bobup's Twat: Pictures; who here isn't enticed by clothes, dirty towels and kids toys on the floor or drug paraphernalia in the background? Personal favorite, child's framed pictures visible. And for fuck sake have the toilet in the pic.

Noobie67
02-07-17, 06:45
Bobup's Twat: Pictures; who here isn't enticed by clothes, dirty towels and kids toys on the floor or drug paraphernalia in the background? Personal favorite, child's framed pictures visible. And for fuck sake have the toilet in the pic.Did someone get kicked in the twatter or something? LOL.

BobUp
02-07-17, 12:36
Did someone get kicked in the twatter or something? LOL.Nope the twatter is just fine, thank for asking.

Just stating the bad habits and unprofessional conduct we all see every day in the so-called hobby. I'm hoping draw a few comments. AND on the outside chance that a new provider might read these maybe, just maybe some bells might go off. LOL who am I kidding.

SouthBend
02-07-17, 17:19
Ok so when I saw Natalie, aksana, and other dreams write on their adds to not contact them late at night, I assumed it was only a few guys who did it and only mongers did it. But WTF providers also do it. I've been contacted from 3 dreams (1 that I haven't seen in a while) at 2-4 am! WTF I'm sleeping plus some of us have actual gf or some are even married. DON'T do that ladies it just makes us very suspicious and less likely to see you.

Just something I felt like sharing.

XNatalieX
02-07-17, 19:30
Ok so when I saw Natalie, aksana, and other dreams write on their adds to not contact them late at night, I assumed it was only a few guys who did it and only mongers did it. But WTF providers also do it. I've been contacted from 3 dreams (1 that I haven't seen in a while) at 2-4 am! WTF I'm sleeping plus some of us have actual gf or some are even married. DON'T do that ladies it just makes us very suspicious and less likely to see you.

Just something I felt like sharing.If they're sending you unsolicited texts or calling you at those hours of the night. Something is really wrong with those ladies. I put in my ads to not contact me after 10 pm because I really enjoy my sleep & live my life on a regular schedule, but it doesn't stop the dozens of calls or texts I get every single night. Gentlemen. Coming from a veteran provider in this hobby I will give you some much needed advice. 1. If your provider of choice is posting her ads at 3 am on a regular basis. That usually means she is passed out all day long from partying too hard. 2. If your provider of choice goes from posting pictures of herself on every single one of her ads to pulling all of them down. That's usually a bad sign. 3. If she's sending you unsolicited texts about coming to see her that means she's in a desperate state of mind, doesn't care about the importance of discretion, and could easily become a nightmare if you have an SO at home. I do have plenty more to add, but I'll let it be for awhile.

P.S. There's been a huge discovery about 2 of the local favorites. But I won't be the one making it public.

IndyGuy123
02-08-17, 00:27
P.S. There's been a huge discovery about 2 of the local favorites. But I won't be the one making it public.I will! Details to follow hopefully tomorrow.

Indy Guy.

IndyGuy123
02-08-17, 12:39
I will! Details to follow hopefully tomorrow.
Indy Guy.FYI I will provide what I can as soon as possible. I have to speak with a certain source before I can share anything. Just know I will share what I do know as soon as I can.

Indy Guy.

SouthBend
02-08-17, 16:43
If they're sending you unsolicited texts or calling you at those hours of the night. Something is really wrong with those ladies. I put in my ads to not contact me after 10 pm because I really enjoy my sleep & live my life on a regular schedule, but it doesn't stop the dozens of calls or texts I get every single night. Gentlemen. Coming from a veteran provider in this hobby I will give you some much needed advice. 1. If your provider of choice is posting her ads at 3 am on a regular basis. That usually means she is passed out all day long from partying too hard. 2. If your provider of choice goes from posting pictures of herself on every single one of her ads to pulling all of them down. That's usually a bad sign. 3. If she's sending you unsolicited texts about coming to see her that means she's in a desperate state of mind, doesn't care about the importance of discretion, and could easily become a nightmare if you have an SO at home. I do have plenty more to add, but I'll let it be for awhile.

P.S. There's been a huge discovery about 2 of the local favorites. But I won't be the one making it public.I couldn't had said it better. Also it makes me think it might be a set up with a pimp or uncle LEO. Either way that's a giant red flag. And wow Natalie you and indy Guy are like Google in this hobby. It's like I get most of my news from you guys and someone else LOL feel free to pm any info you guys might not want to post haha.

I miss those days long ago when I had at least 3 good dreams at any point in time. Now there's just drama.

IndyGuy123
02-08-17, 17:33
And wow Natalie you and indy Guy are like Google in this hobby. It's like I get most of my news from you guys and someone else.The problem is I don't even live there. Although anymore it seems like a second home for some unknown reason. I think there is a problem when I can now run around and know the roads like I am at home.

Google is a good analogy. Not all the info is first hand but I leverage info sources very well.

Indy Guy.

IndyGuy123
02-08-17, 18:15
FYI I will provide what I can as soon as possible. I have to speak with a certain source before I can share anything. Just know I will share what I do know as soon as I can.

Indy Guy.Haven't been able to get with this person so I will put out basics. More info may or may not follow.

This will not come as a huge surprise to many but for others it might. Yesterday it was pretty much visually confirmed that both Mandy and Eliza are H addicts. During the day, Eliza was first hand seen leaving the room in her hotel that she is sharing with Mandy. She exited the hotel where her drug dealer was waiting. Right in front of the hotel in broad daylight, she made a buy and then literally ran back into the hotel and into her room. Take that as you will but to me that is an addict that literally cannot wait to get their fix. Then in my normal mode, I could not sleep last night and was watching the BP ads as I was watching tv. Mandy posted ads at like 1, 3 and 4 am. Clearly up using or more than likely hoping to get an appt to make the next buy. Many know this, but for those that do not, true H addicts basically live their life just to get their next fix. I have communicated with enough SB area mongers that know these ladies well. It is clear that they are great young ladies but are trapped in the vicious cycle. The cold truth of the hobby is many mongers really won't care but for those of you that do, take this info as you would like and decide if you want to contribute to the illness that is plaguing so many young people (and old ones). Me personally I do not want to see a known addict and then read about an OD and know my money may have caused it. Before someone says it, yes if it isn't my money it will be someone elses.

Here is a post made yesterday. This young lady was an H addicted provider. Dead from an OD 2 days ago and I would bet that the fix money came from providing services.


So this was done about a year ago.

http://wishtv.com/2016/02/04/addicts-discouraged-by-lack-of-options-for-uninsured/

For those who don't recognize her, she was one of the pack on Olney St. For awhile. She passed away yesterday from an OD of H. If you say it's not a problem, you might need to wake up. A big down side to what we choose to do.Also if you are interested in seeing the effects this has an learning more, follow "The Cross Out Heroin Campaign" and "The Fuck Heroin Foundation" on FB. The Cross Out is a local Indy group. I frequently see providers on there posting either asking for help getting clean or similar cries for help.

Indy Guy.

Lloyd Braun 93
02-09-17, 00:03
Thanks for the update. My own research indicated that Eliza had some issues in the recent past so it sounds like she has not be able to resolve those. I know I personally would not want to get involved with someone struggling with this problem. Typically issues like this can lead to events that may put your own personal safety in jeopardy. And even if I wasn't concerned about myself I certainly don't want to feel like I am feeding a young lady's demons. A while back we had a really attractive provider in the Fort. After doing my research I determined that she had some substance issues so I decided to stay away. A few weeks later she ended up on the local news involved in an even crazier situation than I originally imagined. Definitely started reassessing my life in the hobby after that revelation! Hopefully these two young ladies decide to seek some help to overcome their addictions.

Thanks for the info IndyGuy. I am almost starting to like you. But I am still worried you are going to steal my favorite red-headed vixen away! .


Haven't been able to get with this person so I will put out basics. More info may or may not follow.

This will not come as a huge surprise to many but for others it might. Yesterday it was pretty much visually confirmed that both Mandy and Eliza are H addicts. During the day, Eliza was first hand seen leaving the room in her hotel that she is sharing with Mandy. She exited the hotel where her drug dealer was waiting. Right in front of the hotel in broad daylight, she made a buy and then literally ran back into the hotel and into her room. Take that as you will but to me that is an addict that literally cannot wait to get their fix. Then in my normal mode, I could not sleep last night and was watching the BP ads as I was watching tv. Mandy posted ads at like 1, 3 and 4 am. Clearly up using or more than likely hoping to get an appt to make the next buy. Many know this, but for those that do not, true H addicts basically live their life just to get their next fix. I have communicated with enough SB area mongers that know these ladies well. It is clear that they are great young ladies but are trapped in the vicious cycle. The cold truth of the hobby is many mongers really won't care but for those of you that do, take this info as you would like and decide if you want to contribute to the illness that is plaguing so many young people (and old ones). Me personally I do not want to see a known addict and then read about an OD and know my money may have caused it. Before someone says it, yes if it isn't my money it will be someone elses.

Here is a post made yesterday. This young lady was an H addicted provider. Dead from an OD 2 days ago and I would bet that the fix money came from providing services.

Also if you are interested in seeing the effects this has an learning more, follow "The Cross Out Heroin Campaign" and "The Fuck Heroin Foundation" on FB. The Cross Out is a local Indy group. I frequently see providers on there posting either asking for help getting clean or similar cries for help.

Indy Guy.

IndyGuy123
02-09-17, 02:34
Thanks for the info IndyGuy. I am almost starting to like you. But I am still worried you are going to steal my favorite red-headed vixen away! .Too late on that. The benefit of being "charming" and "sexy eyes". She remains on loan for the time being. LOL.

Just stay cool and your good. A couple dumb asses didn't in Indy and they no longer get to dream of that vixen.

Indy Guy.

IndyGuy123
02-10-17, 00:53
HOT OFF THE PRESSES.

For those of you that will still see them (and we all know some will) I would highly suggest not doing any outcalls with either or both of them. New findings of my monger research company has determined that on outcalls they will just grab the money and run. If you want to test it, put a couple ones in an envelope, put fake bills in the middle, and put in a sealed envelope like a real donation. Joke will be on them. The couple ones won't even pay for the gas but it might (just maybe) teach them a lesson.

Indy Guy.

LuvGingerGirls
02-11-17, 11:14
HOT OFF THE PRESSES.

For those of you that will still see them (and we all know some will) I would highly suggest not doing any outcalls with either or both of them. New findings of my monger research company has determined that on outcalls they will just grab the money and run. If you want to test it, put a couple ones in an envelope, put fake bills in the middle, and put in a sealed envelope like a real donation. Joke will be on them. The couple ones won't even pay for the gas but it might (just maybe) teach them a lesson.

Indy Guy.You can get some very realistic prop money on Amazon. It's pretty much indistinguishable from the real thing until you notice the phrase "For Motion Picture Use Only". It might not hurt to throw the number for an addiction recovery hotline in there. If anybody could give a description of the dealer, a call to CrimeStoppers might be in order as well. Getting busted might actually end up saving them (I dunno, seems like H is one helluva powerful drug.) At the very least, it would get a dealer off the streets. (One dealer on the streets is two too many!

IndyGuy123
02-13-17, 13:58
Warning! Tread Lightly!

Yesterday a young redhead spinner that is frequently talked about on this board was visited by a few members of her not-so-welcome family. Not sure what exactly was the extent of her family visit as she did not visit the family hotel. Just a word to the wise to tread carefully right now as there could be family members watching over her shoulder. She personally unsucessfully tried to get another lady (not her roommate) to come along for the family visit

Indy Guy.

ChainedUp
02-14-17, 20:28
You created a good place to discuss all the side pertinent information but everytime I read the reviews there's a week's worth of nothing but discussing where to buy a burner phone.

Sounds complicated to me.

Besides its getting toasty in the hobby up here.

I think there's a lot of blue ears out there.

Live long and prosper.

Ch.

BobUp
02-14-17, 22:57
The Prez has taken to Twitter to tweet about anything that pops into his head. I decided I would create my own platform "Twatter" so I can "Twat" out my pointless thoughts throughout the next couple of weeks.

Today.

Bobup's Twat: I just had my review of 3 weeks ago, downgraded from the escort section to BP reviews section.

In your mind, what's the difference between an escort and a BP girl?

Old Twats.

Why is it a provider making $200 per hour ($3. 33 a minute) thinks nothing of being late or wastes time fooling around in the bathroom while we wait?

Pictures; who here is enticed by clothes, dirty towels, kids toys on the floor or drug paraphernalia in the background? Personal favorite, child's framed pictures visible. And for fuck sake love the toilet in the pic.

ChainedUp
02-15-17, 02:17
Yes I also like picking out the items in the pictures.

Not as fun as finding mistakes in movies.

Most pictures don't have the same body parts.

Matching tatoos.

And I could sware I saw an ewak in one with his eyes covered.

Keep sloothing.

Watson.

SouthBend
02-15-17, 09:02
IMO a BP girl is your typical dream, regardless if it's good or bad, she made you feel comfortable or not. It's straight forward to the point. An escort means going to dinner or going out, more things involved and the experience typically last more then then typical hh / hr dream. Be prepared too drop at least 500 lucky charms for this experience. At least that has been my experience.

XNatalieX
02-15-17, 18:46
http://southbend.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/smokin-hot-new-in-town-ready-4-you/21088872

This one is working with London (the one that I vouched for when I helped her start out on BP, but burned me in some bad ways). London has to keep an extremely low profile or she'll go on vacation for a couple years. If this Dixie is in the same company as London take caution.

PM for more details.

SouthBend
02-15-17, 21:50
http://southbend.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/smokin-hot-new-in-town-ready-4-you/21088872

This one is working with London (the one that I vouched for when I helped her start out on BP, but burned me in some bad ways). London has to keep an extremely low profile or she'll go on vacation for a couple years. If this Dixie is in the same company as London take caution.

PM for more details.Number is also register to a guy that just recently got back from vacation about 2 weeks ago. And from what I got from snooping on social media he also had or has some sort of relationship with London. Definitely not a group to be close if you're trying to avoid the blue hotel LOL.

XNatalieX
02-16-17, 02:38
Number is also register to a guy that just recently got back from vacation about 2 weeks ago. And from what I got from snooping on social media he also had or has some sort of relationship with London. Definitely not a group to be close if you're trying to avoid the blue hotel LOL.I looked the number up as well, and he definitely fits the description of the guy I heard London was living with / dating. Just knowing the kind of stuff London's into doing there's no reason why another girl starts posting ads with her unless she's dealing with the same issues. These young spinners that are known in our area all have one thing in common and its something that a client's donation could easily be their last. I understand everyone is here to have fun. I get it. But there's providers (although slim pickings) that don't have the drama going on. If you don't see any signs of pharma use doesn't mean its not happening. Ladies can hide it awfully well. I've seen this time and time again happen.

P.S. I was the one Mandy tried throwing under the bus as she was escorted out of an incall for her third time. Imagine sitting on a bench talking on the phone and seeing 3 undercovers and her walking out the front door and she looks at you and calls out "Oh they're not taking you too? Then immediately after her saying that all three undercovers stare me down. If she will do that to me. I can see her doing anything just to get out of a sticky situation. She shares incalls with Eliza which is why IG123 posted the caution report.

BobUp
02-16-17, 13:01
The Prez has taken to Twitter to tweet about anything that pops into his head. I decided I would create my own platform "Twatter" so I can "Twat" out my pointless thoughts throughout the next couple of weeks.

Today.

Bobup's Twat: Seems every woman under the age of 40 is married to their phone (excuse me mobile device) and social media. Yet too many of today's providers have such poor communication skills. Not long ago one email and a couple of phone calls is all it took. Why is it we've forgotten how to talk, digital leaves a footprint.

The difference between a sex addiction and a drug addiction. I still have all of my teeth.

Old Twats.

I just had my review of 3 weeks ago, downgraded from the escort section to BP reviews section.

In your mind, what's the difference between an escort and a BP girl?

Why is it a provider making $200 per hour ($3. 33 a minute) thinks nothing of being late or wastes time fooling around in the bathroom while we wait?

Pictures; who here is enticed by clothes, dirty towels, kids toys on the floor or drug paraphernalia in the background? Personal favorite, child's framed pictures visible. And for fuck sake love the toilet in the pic.

SouthBend
02-19-17, 15:46
Hey new guys. Why not TOFTT and then we would let in on the club. Experiment with some of the less known dreams and report back.

BTW reporting on the well known dreams regardless if their rep is good or bad shouldn't count because we already have more then enough info.

http://southbend.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/new-spanish-playmate-looks-good-feels-even-better-pleasures-real-pics-l/20039432

That could be someone's assignment LOL. I got the basic info and she assure me the pics are real. I'm not endorsing her or take any responsibility because I've never seen her... so the dream could be good or bad. That's what TOFTT means lol. I'm just tired of seeing the same dreams reviewed over and over again and then having newbies saying they took one for the team! And of course the classical newbie wanting free info on their first post. Js. Since Bobup didn't post a daily twat 2 days in row.

ChainedUp
02-19-17, 23:28
My Twatter of the week.

Posts: 1.

Better late than fraudulent.

Kinda strange.

Almost sounds like someone tooting their own horn.

As foghorn leghorn said.

I could be wrong.

BobUp
02-20-17, 01:09
The Prez has taken to Twitter to tweet about anything that pops into his head. I decided I would create my own platform "Twatter" so I can "Twat" out my pointless thoughts throughout the next couple of weeks.

Bobup's Twat: If prostitution is the world's "oldest profession" you would think most of these girls would have learned to conduct business at a professional level by now. If you're confused by that statement you will come to understand it in time.

Merriam-Webster; Professional: Participating for gain or livelihood in an activity or field of endeavor often engaged in by amateurs.

We have a small hand full of ladies here that understand.

OLD TWATS.

Seems every woman under the age of 40 is married to their phone (excuse me mobile device) and social media. Yet too many of today's providers have such poor communication skills. Not long ago one email and a couple of phone calls is all it took. Why is it we've forgotten how to talk, digital leaves a footprint.

The difference between a sex addiction and a drug addiction. I still have all of my teeth.

I just had my review of 3 weeks ago, downgraded from the escort section to BP reviews section.

In your mind, what's the difference between an escort and a BP girl?

Why is it a provider making $200 per hour ($3. 33 a minute) thinks nothing of being late or wastes time fooling around in the bathroom while we wait?

Pictures; who here is enticed by clothes, dirty towels, kids toys on the floor or drug paraphernalia in the background? Personal favorite, child's framed pictures visible. And for fuck sake love the toilet in the pic.

Noobie67
02-20-17, 20:57
The Prez has taken to Twitter to tweet about anything that pops into his head. I decided I would create my own platform "Twatter" so I can "Twat" out my pointless thoughts throughout the next couple of weeks.

Bobup's Twat: If prostitution is the world's "oldest profession" you would think most of these girls would have learned to conduct business at a professional level by now. If you're confused by that statement you will come to understand it in time.

Merriam-Webster; Professional: Participating for gain or livelihood in an activity or field of endeavor often engaged in by amateurs.

We have a small hand full of ladies here that understand.

OLD TWATS.

Seems every woman under the age of 40 is married to their phone (excuse me mobile device) and social media. Yet too many of today's providers have such poor communication skills. Not long ago one email and a couple of phone calls is all it took. Why is it we've forgotten how to talk, digital leaves a footprint.

The difference between a sex addiction and a drug addiction. I still have all of my teeth.

I just had my review of 3 weeks ago, downgraded from the escort section to BP reviews section.

In your mind, what's the difference between an escort and a BP girl?

Why is it a provider making $200 per hour ($3. 33 a minute) thinks nothing of being late or wastes time fooling around in the bathroom while we wait?

Pictures; who here is enticed by clothes, dirty towels, kids toys on the floor or drug paraphernalia in the background? Personal favorite, child's framed pictures visible. And for fuck sake love the toilet in the pic.You need to find something new. And quick. Your spelling is better your Grammer is better. Good God the big head is taking over. You need to get professional help!!

XNatalieX
02-21-17, 09:59
Bobup's Twat: If prostitution is the world's "oldest profession" you would think most of these girls would have learned to conduct business at a professional level by now. If you're confused by that statement you will come to understand it in time.
A lot of these young girls don't care about being professional in this hobby. If they were involved in the hobby even half the amount that I am it could help them tremendously. I believe if these young ladies conduct their business as follows they'll be quite successful.

1. Communication is key; don't set an appointment & go crickets & don't bother responding or calling back a potential client if its hours after their initial contact to you. (I admit that I've gone silent when someone wanted to see me hours & hours later that day. I post around 8 am when I do work, and my day is finished after 1 possibly 2 appointments. My regulars know I'm available from 8 am-4 pm, I'm extremely low volume which makes it difficult to get an appt to see me, I'll see a regular client before someone new, & don't contact me after 10 pm! (It's 9 am and had 7 calls and 12 texts since 10 pm because some guys have no respect. Since when did I ever post an ad after 10 pm?

2. Clients shouldn't wait for more than 10 minutes for a room number (I wait until I receive the "I'm here text" to put on my lingerie & stockings which takes less than 5 minutes to do).

3. Dress to impress (I suppose answering a door in a towel or completely nude isn't horrible, but guys enjoy some eye candy and what is better than a sexy woman in stockings and lingerie? I make a trip to Cirilla's in South Bend 1 x-2 x a month).

4. Hygiene! Shower between clients (A man doesn't want your undercarriage smelling like the condom the guy wore before him.) I've been around a few BP providers that I never once seen them take a shower for 3-4 days in a row, but if you're seeing back to back clients all day it won't give them enough time to shower.

5. Appearance (Brush your hair, brush your teeth, put some makeup on, curl your hair. Like I said above. Men like eye candy).

6. Attitude (A client comes to see a provider to have a good time, he doesn't come to see a provider and have to deal with the same crap he deals with back at home. Smile, be personable, and have the client wanting to come back for more).

7. Location (Don't stay at low end motels like motel 6, Relax Inn (near state line road in Roseland), South Bend Motel (S. Michigan), Westwood Motel, & whatever the one is just north of Relax Inn. I highly suggest even though I doubt the majority of these local providers even care. Priceline express deals is a great tool to use! I can stay at the Varsity hotel for around $60, Holiday Inn Express for $54, and whenever I travel out of town I get 3. 5 star hotels for 60% off. At least take a little more out of your donations and try to upgrade your incall).

8. Service (You want to gain regulars so service is key. It doesn't take rocket science to know how to please a man. Ask your client what he enjoys and try your best to satisfy him in every way imaginable. Being a GFE goes a long way. A client doesn't want to be told a long list of rules. If you don't do a lot of the known acronyms (daty, kissing, fiv, etc) then you shouldn't be a provider. If you're a dead fish in the bed. You shouldn't be a provider.

9. Clock watching (Just don't do it! I actually unplug the clock in my room because 90% of the time my sessions end right when they're supposed to. If I'm having a good time I don't mind the time going over).

10. Join verifiable websites like P411 & Datecheck (This helps me a ton when I travel, and it should prevent guys from asking for proof pics because you had to take pictures of your I'd and holding your I'd to even join these websites. Its worth it).

SouthBend
02-22-17, 14:24
If the other providers would take your tips everyone would be happier and safer. However providers don't do it because no matter how much of a mediocre service they provide, there will always be some guys wanting to see them. Even if the guys know all the bad things, junior always win. I myself have struggled with junior. If better service was demanded by at 75% of the people, in sure the hobby would be a lot better. But no one will take the first step in not seeing bad dreams.

SouthBend
02-23-17, 10:02
For everyone. So I got myself a cheap phone for the hobby when I started out cause I saw many seniors on here recommend that. My question is why not just use apps that give you a different number? Just curious.

ChainedUp
02-23-17, 17:45
I for one don't take anything with me to any of the meeting.

Or sometimes rub places that I can'taford to walk away from.

Nothing but the tip I will leave.

No credit card or I'd or phone.

I don't care how carefull you are.

Yor going to loan people your items.

And even my burner has little on it and is passworded.

I would hate to have to cancel all my stuff and srart over.

Personal safety first is a fun hobby.

Ch.

ChainedUp
02-23-17, 18:24
Even in everyday life shit happens.

When your being your good est.

So luke.

When your on the dark side.

I trust Murphys law.

And military preparedness.

There's always a SNAFU around the corner.

BobUp
02-24-17, 17:31
Thank you, Natalie, for your input this is exactly what I was trying to inspire with my deranged Twats. IG123 created the underground for us to exchange ideas and information. Maybe have a little fun or some bitching.

Reference Natalie's comments; She's right on. That's is the difference between an escort and someone just advertising on BP (my so-called BP girl) it's the quality of service not the price they command.

I greatly appreciate South Bend thoughts as well. IMO the idea of an escort is somebody making high dollars going out to fancy Galas on the arms of some rich guy is something seen on TV. I have no doubt that this occurs around here on the rare occasion but mostly seen in your large cities with an affluent man trying to impress. My idea of an escort is someone who conducts herself in a professional manner. (See Natalie's list below).

Thanks to the The Nob as well for reminding me of my dyslexia.... Dick


You need to find something new. And quick. Your spelling is better your Grammer is better. Good God the big head is taking over. You need to get professional help!!


A lot of these young girls don't care about being professional in this hobby. If they were involved in the hobby even half the amount that I am it could help them tremendously. I believe if these young ladies conduct their business as follows they'll be quite successful.

1. Communication is key; don't set an appointment & go crickets & don't bother responding or calling back a potential client if its hours after their initial contact to you. (I admit that I've gone silent when someone wanted to see me hours & hours later that day. I post around 8 am when I do work, and my day is finished after 1 possibly 2 appointments. My regulars know I'm available from 8 am-4 pm, I'm extremely low volume which makes it difficult to get an appt to see me, I'll see a regular client before someone new, & don't contact me after 10 pm! (It's 9 am and had 7 calls and 12 texts since 10 pm because some guys have no respect. Since when did I ever post an ad after 10 pm?

2. Clients shouldn't wait for more than 10 minutes for a room number (I wait until I receive the "I'm here text" to put on my lingerie & stockings which takes less than 5 minutes to do).

3. Dress to impress (I suppose answering a door in a towel or completely nude isn't horrible, but guys enjoy some eye candy and what is better than a sexy woman in stockings and lingerie? I make a trip to Cirilla's in South Bend 1 x-2 x a month).

4. Hygiene! Shower between clients (A man doesn't want your undercarriage smelling like the condom the guy wore before him.) I've been around a few BP providers that I never once seen them take a shower for 3-4 days in a row, but if you're seeing back to back clients all day it won't give them enough time to shower.

5. Appearance (Brush your hair, brush your teeth, put some makeup on, curl your hair. Like I said above. Men like eye candy).

6. Attitude (A client comes to see a provider to have a good time, he doesn't come to see a provider and have to deal with the same crap he deals with back at home. Smile, be personable, and have the client wanting to come back for more).

7. Location (Don't stay at low end motels like motel 6, Relax Inn (near state line road in Roseland), South Bend Motel (S. Michigan), Westwood Motel, & whatever the one is just north of Relax Inn. I highly suggest even though I doubt the majority of these local providers even care. Priceline express deals is a great tool to use! I can stay at the Varsity hotel for around $60, Holiday Inn Express for $54, and whenever I travel out of town I get 3. 5 star hotels for 60% off. At least take a little more out of your donations and try to upgrade your incall).

8. Service (You want to gain regulars so service is key. It doesn't take rocket science to know how to please a man. Ask your client what he enjoys and try your best to satisfy him in every way imaginable. Being a GFE goes a long way. A client doesn't want to be told a long list of rules. If you don't do a lot of the known acronyms (daty, kissing, fiv, etc) then you shouldn't be a provider. If you're a dead fish in the bed. You shouldn't be a provider.

9. Clock watching (Just don't do it! I actually unplug the clock in my room because 90% of the time my sessions end right when they're supposed to. If I'm having a good time I don't mind the time going over).

10. Join verifiable websites like P411 & Datecheck (This helps me a ton when I travel, and it should prevent guys from asking for proof pics because you had to take pictures of your I'd and holding your I'd to even join these websites. Its worth it).

Liltim
03-01-17, 04:17
I usually get asked by providers and the ladies at the AMP's if I'm married or single. Does the service or their attitude change on the answer you give?

Some of my thoughts on each answer.

If you're married, they might somehow blackmail you or maybe treat you better because you probably might not be getting what you want at home. Or they think you are scum for cheating.

If your single, they might think this is the only way to get some action.

Just kinda thinking out loud. What's your thoughts?

SB Friend
03-01-17, 11:16
I usually get asked by providers and the ladies at the AMP's if I'm married or single. Does the service or their attitude change on the answer you give?
Some of my thoughts on each answer.
If you're married, they might somehow blackmail you or maybe treat you better because you probably might not be getting what you want at home. Or they think you are scum for cheating.
If your single, they might think this is the only way to get some action.
Just kinda thinking out loud. What's your thoughts?I've never really noticed, and I've visited in both statuses. In fact, the only comment even related to that was from a masseuse that had been working for quite a while on the after the flip portion of things. She said, "You strong, you wear out you wife?" Kind of cracked me up at the time.

IndyGuy123
03-01-17, 11:20
Is is just me or does this just seem more than just a little off? This lady has never been mentioned on the board. Then a week ago Paramour Seeker reviews her well. A couple guys ask about here. Now yesterday we get two reviews on the same day by members with only one post. One short and one long but both making her out to be the best time of their life. For the SB hobbyists, I hope it is true but this seems just a bit more than sketchy to me. NOTE: I fully believe Paramour as he and I had talked and I knew he was scheduled to see her.


I was able to contact pixie and I must say what a Dream it was the best 2 hours of my life and the price was extremely reasonable, great smile, Beautiful eyes nice hair cut just beyond sweet and very professional and if you love body work this pixie will turn you on for sure.


I had a wonderful dream the other night about Pixie, I had an overnight with her she was truly an amazing woman the price was very fair and reasonable not to expensive at all and very highly professional truly worth every dollar I promise you that. The night consisted of dinner at very nice restaurant I truly loved the way she was dressed very very sexy and wore those sexy heels and if your into feet very sexy toes, sitting across from her was like looking into heaven it self just beyond beautiful and eyes that can pierce your soul. Great conversationist and highly intelligent plus she loves Football great great plus truly down to earth. After dinner and talking we proceeded to my home where things proceeded to get very interesting and very pleasurable. We freshened up a bit then had a couple fireball shots afterwards I watched her as she stood in my living room standing there in her heels just beyond sexy and truly beautiful and the art work she has on her body is out of this world I was truly blown away this Angel. Kissing and touching while listening to some wonderful music through out my kitchen we then proceeded to my bedroom where I let her have her way with me and when I say TRULY the best oral I have ever received. We continue with lots of for play kissing and touching on each other's body which then she let me take control and I proceeded to go Down on her tasting her sweetness until she had an amazing orgasm in my mouth. I proceeded to kiss my way up to her kissing and licking on her soft skin, I then entered the gates of heaven and it was the best feeling ever In my 45 years of living and I say that with up most truth in me she was Nicely wet smooth warm like I had never felt before it was like I was being massage while inside of her. I flipped her over and enter the gates for more Heaven the high light of my night was watching her grab my sheets and bite my pillow as she enjoyed our interaction, we continued with various positions and tons of kissing and orgasms and as I was about to unload she proceeded to assist with some amazing oral which felt like my soul was being sucked from my body. Afterwards we laid in each other's arms and fell asleep. The very next morning we had a light breakfast some conversation and proceeded on with our day ahead. This Angel was worth every dollar I had very professional very down to earth and loves to please trust me you will not be disappointed at all. What a Dream and I truly can't wait to have another Dream just the same.Indy Guy.

IndyGuy123
03-01-17, 11:30
Just a short editorial post.

Big props to the mongers out there who are involved with providers (as a client or more) that know they are having issues with addiction and are willing to try to help the individual. Many times the efforts are futile but to me it does not discredit your efforts on trying to help the individual through her struggles. In the last couple weeks, I have had text conversations or sit downs with multiple hobbyists in the SB area that are just doing that very thing. One of which will likely be joining this forum shortly.

Indy Guy.

P.S.- This isn't intended to look down on those that don't. We all know that in our real lives, most guys cannot make this effort.

SouthBend
03-05-17, 14:05
Has anyone notice the somewhat constant adds on BP that only have emails and no phone numbers. Also most of the girls on the pics are very good looking which gets me skeptical. Just wondering if anyone has tried making contact with them? Because I don't get a good vibe from them.

NwiGuy219
03-06-17, 13:24
Long time lurker, don't post very often. Not sure if this is the right place to post but there have been many sleepless nights here in MC. Would anyone happen to know of anyone that would be able to help me sleep and have sweet dreams over this way? Have tried getting ahold of the Economic Stimulus but the schedule never works. Thanks!

BobUp
03-06-17, 20:34
Long time lurker, don't post very often. Not sure if this is the right place to post but there have been many sleepless nights here in MC. Would anyone happen to know of anyone that would be able to help me sleep and have sweet dreams over this way? Have tried getting ahold of the Economic Stimulus but the schedule never works. Thanks!Is Abbey still in MC?

I Saw her back in October very nice lady and I had a good time. Unfortunately, it's an hour plus drive for me.

SoftHands225
03-08-17, 20:58
Is Abbey still in MC?

I Saw her back in October very nice lady and I had a good time. Unfortunately, it's an hour plus drive for me.Last time I saw Tina, Abbey was still working the same place, but I have not seen her post since the BP sensorship. That is probably a month and a half back at least though.

Noobie67
03-09-17, 14:22
Long time lurker, don't post very often. Not sure if this is the right place to post but there have been many sleepless nights here in MC. Would anyone happen to know of anyone that would be able to help me sleep and have sweet dreams over this way? Have tried getting ahold of the Economic Stimulus but the schedule never works. Thanks!Other than economic. I don't know that there is anyone unless you go hang out at the casino. I would venture to the Chicago board and then click northwest Indiana. There are some scattered from merrillville to chesterton.

IndyGuy123
03-09-17, 15:09
Long time lurker, don't post very often. Not sure if this is the right place to post but there have been many sleepless nights here in MC. Would anyone happen to know of anyone that would be able to help me sleep and have sweet dreams over this way? Have tried getting ahold of the Economic Stimulus but the schedule never works. Thanks!PM INTravelingMan. He may be able to help you in that area of the state.

Indy Guy.

NwiGuy219
03-09-17, 20:46
Thanks for the tips. I will PM who you suggested. I normally would see Abby, but she hasn't posted since January. The dreamers over in NWI usually turn into nightmares. I've had better dreams in MC or South Bend. I may just have to go to South Bend on my week vacation coming soon to see the Redhead Vixen.

SB Friend
03-10-17, 15:56
Other than economic. I don't know that there is anyone unless you go hang out at the casino. I would venture to the Chicago board and then click northwest Indiana. There are some scattered from merrillville to chesterton.Crap, I didn't even know that link was there.

INTravelingMan
03-11-17, 13:17
PM INTravelingMan. He may be able to help you in that area of the state.

Indy Guy.What are you looking for? PM me and I can hook you up!

SouthBend
03-13-17, 13:55
What are you looking for? PM me and I can hook you up!Ok I need your help too please LOL. You know of any Asian dreams in the michiana area and / northwest Indiana?

SouthBend
03-13-17, 13:59
So I did some research and stalking LOL and I came up with the conclusion the in the michiana area, dreams are just to expensive compare to other similar areas. Even better areas. Some are the same amount for a hh nap as a an hour dream! So I propose that we all come together and stop dreaming in a expensive manner and I'm sure those will come down. And let's be honest some are actually nightmares.

However I'm sure 99% will not support the cause and things will continue the same LOL. So let's pray for those empty wallets LOL.

INTravelingMan
03-13-17, 14:53
Ok I need your help too please LOL. You know of any Asian dreams in the michiana area and / northwest Indiana?Well there are the ones that post in Merrillville. You have to go to Illinois BP and look under Chicago-NW Indiana if you did not already know to look there. Those gals though definitely use fake pics. They are generally in their late 30's or early 40's and they are just passing through. There are no Asians who regularly see guys for more than a month before they move on.

Now if you really want some Asians, come with me next time I go to Southeast Asia! We will definitely get you an all you can eat buffet of young women. And you might even fall in love and bring one back with you!

Member #5639
03-14-17, 04:49
I'm up for your idea. If we shrink the demand prices will adjust. There is a serious epidemic of GPS growing around here.


So I did some research and stalking LOL and I came up with the conclusion the in the michiana area, dreams are just to expensive compare to other similar areas. Even better areas. Some are the same amount for a hh nap as a an hour dream! So I propose that we all come together and stop dreaming in a expensive manner and I'm sure those will come down. And let's be honest some are actually nightmares.

However I'm sure 99% will not support the cause and things will continue the same LOL. So let's pray for those empty wallets LOL.

IndyGuy123
03-21-17, 13:13
The last thing I want is some dude in the peanut gallery giving instructions or worse yet critiquing me.

"That's it give it to her, no not that way turn around, no not you her, now put it in. Not their dumbass I didn't say ear!

If I'm going to be the entertainment I'm getting a donation. You can bet ass it's going be much higher than most can afford.Come on Bob.Up your freakiness game. Take 1 yellow pill, 2 blue pills, and a 5 hour energy shot and you are ready to go. Don't tell me you can't perform for a one man audience. Try it on the internet in open chatrooms with audiences bigger than most weeknight movie showings.

Indy Guy.

BobUp
03-21-17, 14:52
Come on Bob.Up your freakiness game. Take 1 yellow pill, 2 blue pills, and a 5 hour energy shot and you are ready to go. Don't tell me you can't perform for a one man audience. Try it on the internet in open chatrooms with audiences bigger than most weeknight movie showings.

Indy Guy.Because you couldn't afford my rate and I wouldn't take your low ball offer you feel the need to belittling me on the open board? This is the last time I'll tell you, either meet my rate or wait outside.

XNatalieX
03-21-17, 15:14
Come on Bob.Up your freakiness game. Take 1 yellow pill, 2 blue pills, and a 5 hour energy shot and you are ready to go. Don't tell me you can't perform for a one man audience. Try it on the internet in open chatrooms with audiences bigger than most weeknight movie showings.

Indy Guy.Yes, we're going to do another chatroom webcam performance again soon. Probably within the next ooooooh 2-3 days.

SouthBend
03-23-17, 10:18
Ok so I've noticed that reviews don't really work for many. For example some providers have horrible reviews about cashing and dashing or worst, like armed robbery with thugs / pimps. But people still see them. Then they come and share their experiences still in disbelief LOL. I find it amazing they can't believe it happened to them when there were many reviews warning of said provider.

P.S.: it's sad some get the privilege of dreaming of Natalie even with chat room. But I have yet to see her since our schedules never match. I'll keep trying maybe some day I get lucky LOL.

INTravelingMan
03-23-17, 12:34
Ok so I've noticed that reviews don't really work for many. For example some providers have horrible reviews about cashing and dashing or worst, like armed robbery with thugs / pimps. But people still see them. Then they come and share their experiences still in disbelief LOL. I find it amazing they can't believe it happened to them when there were many reviews warning of said provider.

P.S.: it's sad some get the privilege of dreaming of Natalie even with chat room. But I have yet to see her since our schedules never match. I'll keep trying maybe some day I get lucky LOL.That's why they have that abbreviation, right? Your mileage may vary with some providers. One man's lemon may be another man's lemonade.

SouthBend
03-23-17, 20:50
That's why they have that abbreviation, right? Your mileage may vary with some providers. One man's lemon may be another man's lemonade.You got a point. And most cases it applies. But my comment was directed towards situations where for example there are 10 reviews. And 8 of them are from people getting robbed. Should that person really be surprised? It was obvious that was going to happen.

XNatalieX
03-24-17, 11:56
I know it's being talked about in other threads, but I can openingly talk about it on the Underground so here I go.

A few days ago I had a "regular" of mine contact me asking what rate I'll give an old friend. I was being generous with him and his response back was "Wow inflation has hit. ".

The rate I gave him is lower than my regular donation which is lower than MOST of the providers in this area. Yes, I'm not a spinner but if anyone can up her donation it honestly should be me!

I've done a lot for this hobby, always provide great service (even my few negative reviews are focused only on my body & not service), have one of the best incalls, etc etc.

I know Debra Hollander is a great provider and a very nice woman. I know Pixie asks for one of the highest rates in Northern Indiana. She also wants pictures of the clients wanting to see her.

We all have our way of doing things and its up to you guys if you'll put up with it.

My rates are 80/120/180 (That is lower than any of the other "legit" providers) also gentlemen. When a provider runs a special it's for that day only. It doesn't mean that's the rate you continue to get each and every time you visit them. Go to a restaurant and ask for the previous days special at the special rate and see what you get.

I have GPS. Yes I don't have the expensive rates but I have a pussy of gold.

Haha XOXO Nat Nat.

INTravelingMan
03-24-17, 12:51
I know it's being talked about in other threads, but I can openingly talk about it on the Underground so here I go.

A few days ago I had a "regular" of mine contact me asking what rate I'll give an old friend. I was being generous with him and his response back was "Wow inflation has hit. ".

The rate I gave him is lower than my regular donation which is lower than MOST of the providers in this area. Yes, I'm not a spinner but if anyone can up her donation it honestly should be me!

I've done a lot for this hobby, always provide great service (even my few negative reviews are focused only on my body & not service), have one of the best incalls, etc etc.

I know Debra Hollander is a great provider and a very nice woman. I know Pixie asks for one of the highest rates in Northern Indiana. She also wants pictures of the clients wanting to see her.

We all have our way of doing things and its up to you guys if you'll put up with it.

My rates are 80/120/180 (That is lower than any of the other "legit" providers) also gentlemen. When a provider runs a special it's for that day only. It doesn't mean that's the rate you continue to get each and every time you visit them. Go to a restaurant and ask for the previous days special at the special rate and see what you get.

I have GPS. Yes I don't have the expensive rates but I have a pussy of gold.

Haha XOXO Nat Nat.Natalie is a sweetheart. Her rates are more than reasonable and you should not hesitate to go see her. Quit bitching about her and go get that pussy of gold! I have not seen her in a long time and I would go see her, but I am exploring something different at this time. You guys just need to quit rewarding these girls with bad reviews and give your money to the girls with good ones. Drive out the bad providers and keep the good ones happy so that they keep you happy.

IndyGuy123
03-24-17, 20:22
I have GPS. Yes I don't have the expensive rates but I have a pussy of gold.
I like to go digging for gold!

Indy Guy.

Noobie67
03-25-17, 09:09
There are some posts in the escort section and in this section on this topic. Some of us are quick to complain about rates.

So, there are those of us that complain frequently about the grade of incall, services, ect. But think about how things add up.

If you want cheap, I can show you a couple roads you can drive down and get what you want for anywhere from 40 to 60 bucks. If all your concerned about is price.

We then get information wrong and spread it around. Obviously some wrong information was given on Debra and she has questioned that information. More wrong information is being spread on pixie. Her rates are not what have been posted. Well that is unless you have pissed her off.

So let's look at some of our ladies, I don't know Debra but from what I have read from her sight. I seriously doubt if you make an appointment with her that you will meet her in the old motel 6. She is going to have a nice place and this costs money. Pixie is mostly out call but if your nice she will make arrangements for an incall and again it won't be the old motel 6. This costs money.

Ms Patentience has a very, very nice incall location. Natalie has a very very nice incall location. This too costs money to have and maintain.

Again, I do not personally know Debra but from reviews and personal experience all of these ladies provide a great time. And there are a couple others that I won't mention because a couple people will use this to trash them again.

What needs to be done is not to badger these ladies about the time fees, it is to weed out the ones that want to charge the same thing and provide a blanket on the floor, provide a crappie dream and then rush you out the door.

Just my opinion.

Noobie.

Unico Vp
03-25-17, 09:59
Very few people here know that I have left the hobby for personal reasons. However, I still read the boards partly for the entertainment value and partly for the strip club information. Just because I'm on a diet does not mean I can't read the menu.

Noobie, Nattalie, and Indy Guy are all on the mark. During my time actively participating in this hobby, I discovered three undeniable facts:

1. Cheap prices normally mean cheap service.

2. Low end motels normally mean poor service.

3. High quality service comes with a cost.

Unfortunately, most mongers in this area are looking for the basic 4 W's from this hobby. Whip it in, Whip it out, Wipe it off, and Walk away. They don't care about quality. They only want to maximize the amount of bangs they can get for their bucks. That leads to lousy service from strung out providers who will stay in as cheap a place as they can.

However, there are some of us on the monger side that prefer a better experience. When I was active in the hobby, I wanted the entire experience to seem natural and be the true GFE thing. Therefore I was willing to spend more for that experience. I don't need to bang someone or something every day of the week and twice on Sunday. I would prefer 1 or 2 great experiences a week / month that allowed me to enjoy all aspects of experience.

Ms Nattalie provided that for me, but also provided it at a very reasonable rate. She is a unicorn.

Ms. Hollander provided it (yes, I have met her previously), and the experience was spectacular).

There are several websites that cater more to the high end side of this hobby. They are worth the investment if you want a better quality of service. I think we can all agree that most of the Backpage providers are low end at best. Very few are like Nattalie.

Unfortunately, Backpage is the most used venue in this area.

Good luck. I miss all of you except Indy Guy. He is still a schmuck.

S5.

TwoToke
03-25-17, 10:48
There are some posts in the escort section and in this section on this topic. Some of us are quick to complain about rates.

So, there are those of us that complain frequently about the grade of incall, services, ect. But think about how things add up.

If you want cheap, I can show you a couple roads you can drive down and get what you want for anywhere from 40 to 60 bucks. If all your concerned about is price.

We then get information wrong and spread it around. Obviously some wrong information was given on Debra and she has questioned that information. More wrong information is being spread on pixie. Her rates are not what have been posted. Well that is unless you have pissed her off.

So let's look at some of our ladies, I don't know Debra but from what I have read from her sight. I seriously doubt if you make an appointment with her that you will meet her in the old motel 6. She is going to have a nice place and this costs money. Pixie is mostly out call but if your nice she will make arrangements for an incall and again it won't be the old motel 6. This costs money.

Ms Patentience has a very, very nice incall location. Natalie has a very very nice incall location. This too costs money to have and maintain.

Again, I do not personally know Debra but from reviews and personal experience all of these ladies provide a great time. And there are a couple others that I won't mention because a couple people will use this to trash them again.

What needs to be done is not to badger these ladies about the time fees, it is to weed out the ones that want to charge the same thing and provide a blanket on the floor, provide a crappie dream and then rush you out the door.

Just my opinion.

Noobie.Just want to clarify about pixie when she started posting it's 200 hh get a room that's another 100 travel compensation so another 50 to 100 so that's 400 a hh sorry I was wrong I think I said a hour last time I'm sorry it's even worse. I don't really call it bashing a girl but telling guys here on the board the true deal on hooking up with pixie. That's why Natalie said she is the most expensive in northern indiana. I'm sure see mite have dropped her rates lately but not in my experience with her. I do remember putting a good review on Nadia before the Debra and pixie post. And I'm sure you won't her one review on this board about how fantastic Debra hollinder was because she wants to much. But I wish there were more girls to reward with great reviews but there isn't. What another review of the same old girls why. Something has to get posted to keep things interesting weather it rubs some wrong or not some will agree with me some won't. As far as Debra it's a none subject anymore when was the last time you heard of a traveling escort for big city money get a review in south bend never.

NcLover
03-25-17, 14:24
I know it's being talked about in other threads, but I can openingly talk about it on the Underground so here I go.

A few days ago I had a "regular" of mine contact me asking what rate I'll give an old friend. I was being generous with him and his response back was "Wow inflation has hit. ".

The rate I gave him is lower than my regular donation which is lower than MOST of the providers in this area. Yes, I'm not a spinner but if anyone can up her donation it honestly should be me!

I've done a lot for this hobby, always provide great service (even my few negative reviews are focused only on my body & not service), have one of the best incalls, etc etc.

I know Debra Hollander is a great provider and a very nice woman. I know Pixie asks for one of the highest rates in Northern Indiana. She also wants pictures of the clients wanting to see her.

We all have our way of doing things and its up to you guys if you'll put up with it.

My rates are 80/120/180 (That is lower than any of the other "legit" providers) also gentlemen. When a provider runs a special it's for that day only. It doesn't mean that's the rate you continue to get each and every time you visit them. Go to a restaurant and ask for the previous days special at the special rate and see what you get.

I have GPS. Yes I don't have the expensive rates but I have a pussy of gold.

Haha XOXO Nat Nat.Long time ago when Natalie was just starting out I saw her at a house north of Ewing. At the end of the dream we were talking and she said something about guys that want service for 20 or 40 bucks and do girls really do that. I said that there were guys like that out there. I don't remember if I mentioned this site by name but this was the site I was talking about. It seems like most here want high end service at streetwalker rates.

XNatalieX
03-25-17, 16:32
Long time ago when Natalie was just starting out I saw her at a house north of Ewing. At the end of the dream we were talking and she said something about guys that want service for 20 or 40 bucks and do girls really do that. I said that there were guys like that out there. I don't remember if I mentioned this site by name but this was the site I was talking about. It seems like most here want high end service at streetwalker rates.Those were the days! There'd be 4 or 5 of us at that house at one time. For the guys that remember the thick big boob redhead Candy, tall & skinny blonde Heaven, myself, & the cute & petite curly haired brunette that went my Katie (or Kat can't remember for sure). Yes, we had a lot of traffic coming in and out of that house because the best providers in the area lived there. We did have a lot of fun up until Heaven started getting jealous of the other girls. I actually had to move out because of it. Heaven made a lot of mongers very sad when she moved away, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was all the BBFS and BB Greek she was doing.

On a side not I'm glad to see Sapper making an appearance! I hope you're doing well my friend and very happy in your life, and glad you're still picking on IndyGuy123. He needs that from time to time because he has one big ol' ego hahahaha.

SouthBend
03-25-17, 17:51
A few days ago I posted about how rates were too high compared to other similar places. Especially when you take into account the lousy service and how we should all unite to maybe boycot them or something else so donations would fall. Which I do realize that's only a dream because we mongers would never do that.

By that I didn't meant girls like Natalie, pixie (BTW is so hot) Debra, and I will mention aksana because I really like her too, economic stimulus, Ms patience, and maybe any other I might be forgetting. All these girls are all great in my book with higher donations. Except Natalie who I honestly think deserves more per session.

The rest (maybe I might be forgetting 1 or 2) all have too high of a donation for the service offer, which is why I don't see them. BTW there's nothing wrong with the 4 W LOL. Not all of us want GFE. That's why I got a gf. Sometimes some of us just want something LOL.

INTravelingMan
03-25-17, 19:13
A few days ago I posted about how rates were too high compared to other similar places. Especially when you take into account the lousy service and how we should all unite to maybe boycot them or something else so donations would fall. Which I do realize that's only a dream because we mongers would never do that.

By that I didn't meant girls like Natalie, pixie (BTW is so hot) Debra, and I will mention aksana because I really like her too, economic stimulus, Ms patience, and maybe any other I might be forgetting. All these girls are all great in my book with higher donations. Except Natalie who I honestly think deserves more per session.

The rest (maybe I might be forgetting 1 or 2) all have too high of a donation for the service offer, which is why I don't see them. BTW there's nothing wrong with the 4 W LOL. Not all of us want GFE. That's why I got a gf. Sometimes some of us just want something LOL.Some people shop at the big box stores for their clothes. Some people shop at the mall. And others even shop at boutique shops. So there is something for everybody. Don't go to a boutique and ask for the Roll Back prices. I have not had the pleasure of seeing Debra, Aksana, Economic, or Patience but the reviews I have read were all good. Natalie was aces before. Pixie is in a class all by herself in my book.

IndyGuy123
03-25-17, 23:26
Glad you're still picking on IndyGuy123. He needs that from time to time because he has one big ol' ego hahahaha.Oh my dear, that is where you are wrong. Sap addressing me just strokes the ego more. I am just thankful Sap has his own way of doing it. I would run if it was the same as your method. Stroking an ego always makes it grow! .

Indy Guy.

XNatalieX
03-29-17, 07:18
I know Newbie (hehe) posted about this already, but I wanted to get on here and confirm it as well.

She is 150 HH AND 200 HR. Her and I actually have the same rate because I decided to ask A little more because I can & deserve it. Yes, she asks for a picture but maybe she doesn't want to run into anyone she may know in real life. We barely have any providers worth a crap in this area besides a handful and as long as things are that way gentlemen the great providers can ask whatever they'd like because honestly. Guys will continue seeing us. I've yet to meet Pixie, but I hope to soon because I've heard she's an amazing provider. She has the kind of body that guys seem to complain doesn't exist in this area because the rest of us "great providers" are thicker. So that in itself is a reason she can ask for more. When I toured Iowa I was asking 160 HH 250 HR & 400/2 hrs (this is why I leave town so much because a lot of guys in South Bend want to see us for the lowest rates) and I got that rate all day long and you'd think Iowa would be just as bad as South Bend, but when you're a reputable provider and beautiful there's men out there willing to donate that. We provide a service that men want & desire and providers need to have very thick skin to do this & be very strong minded. Just imagine what we go through on a daily basis & being judged as well. I'll always defend providers that deserve it & Pixie is one of them. I guarantee this could even hurt my business because I'm convincing guys why they should see her, but that's just the woman I am.

XoXo Nat Nat.

ParamourSeeker
03-29-17, 13:39
Nat,

Just want to say well said. I don't live near South Bend, but have traveled there a number of times as well as many other places. My opinion is that rates in your are at or slightly below going rates in the Midwest. Many providers who enjoy lower volume and longer interactions will jack up there hhr and hr rate, but the multi-hour and overnights definitely come down to reasonable to even cheap. To me 200/ hr for FS GFE with a talented provider with good to great reviews is a steal. From my travels providers like Pixie, Nat (have not seen but rep speaks volumes) can easily travel to the city (Chicago, detroit, Atlanta, Cleveland) and easily charge and get 200-300/ hour). If you are looking for the cheap stuff, the hood rat or chemically dependent are willing to give you a QV and solve your issue. To me, that is not the clientele these higher end professional ladies are trying to attract. Honestly I pay for the experience, and it should be professional, friendly, and fun. Conversely, it is free to master ate to some porn if I wasn't buying what they are selling. Like Nat stated earlier, pick the right store for what you are buying.


I know Newbie (hehe) posted about this already, but I wanted to get on here and confirm it as well.

She is 150 HH AND 200 HR. Her and I actually have the same rate because I decided to ask A little more because I can & deserve it. Yes, she asks for a picture but maybe she doesn't want to run into anyone she may know in real life. We barely have any providers worth a crap in this area besides a handful and as long as things are that way gentlemen the great providers can ask whatever they'd like because honestly. Guys will continue seeing us. I've yet to meet Pixie, but I hope to soon because I've heard she's an amazing provider. She has the kind of body that guys seem to complain doesn't exist in this area because the rest of us "great providers" are thicker. So that in itself is a reason she can ask for more. When I toured Iowa I was asking 160 HH 250 HR & 400/2 hrs (this is why I leave town so much because a lot of guys in South Bend want to see us for the lowest rates) and I got that rate all day long and you'd think Iowa would be just as bad as South Bend, but when you're a reputable provider and beautiful there's men out there willing to donate that. We provide a service that men want & desire and providers need to have very thick skin to do this & be very strong minded. Just imagine what we go through on a daily basis & being judged as well. I'll always defend providers that deserve it & Pixie is one of them. I guarantee this could even hurt my business because I'm convincing guys why they should see her, but that's just the woman I am.

XoXo Nat Nat.

SouthBend
03-29-17, 13:46
I know Newbie (hehe) posted about this already, but I wanted to get on here and confirm it as well.

She is 150 HH AND 200 HR. Her and I actually have the same rate because I decided to ask A little more because I can & deserve it. Yes, she asks for a picture but maybe she doesn't want to run into anyone she may know in real life. We barely have any providers worth a crap in this area besides a handful and as long as things are that way gentlemen the great providers can ask whatever they'd like because honestly. Guys will continue seeing us. I've yet to meet Pixie, but I hope to soon because I've heard she's an amazing provider. She has the kind of body that guys seem to complain doesn't exist in this area because the rest of us "great providers" are thicker. So that in itself is a reason she can ask for more. When I toured Iowa I was asking 160 HH 250 HR & 400/2 hrs (this is why I leave town so much because a lot of guys in South Bend want to see us for the lowest rates) and I got that rate all day long and you'd think Iowa would be just as bad as South Bend, but when you're a reputable provider and beautiful there's men out there willing to donate that. We provide a service that men want & desire and providers need to have very thick skin to do this & be very strong minded. Just imagine what we go through on a daily basis & being judged as well. I'll always defend providers that deserve it & Pixie is one of them. I guarantee this could even hurt my business because I'm convincing guys why they should see her, but that's just the woman I am.

XoXo Nat Nat.From what I got from her is that she got a good attitude something rare in the area. Unfortunately younger guys like myself are out of luck because she prefer older guys.

Pixie574
03-29-17, 14:46
I know Newbie (hehe) posted about this already, but I wanted to get on here and confirm it as well.

She is 150 HH AND 200 HR. Her and I actually have the same rate because I decided to ask A little more because I can & deserve it. Yes, she asks for a picture but maybe she doesn't want to run into anyone she may know in real life. We barely have any providers worth a crap in this area besides a handful and as long as things are that way gentlemen the great providers can ask whatever they'd like because honestly. Guys will continue seeing us. I've yet to meet Pixie, but I hope to soon because I've heard she's an amazing provider. She has the kind of body that guys seem to complain doesn't exist in this area because the rest of us "great providers" are thicker. So that in itself is a reason she can ask for more. When I toured Iowa I was asking 160 HH 250 HR & 400/2 hrs (this is why I leave town so much because a lot of guys in South Bend want to see us for the lowest rates) and I got that rate all day long and you'd think Iowa would be just as bad as South Bend, but when you're a reputable provider and beautiful there's men out there willing to donate that. We provide a service that men want & desire and providers need to have very thick skin to do this & be very strong minded. Just imagine what we go through on a daily basis & being judged as well. I'll always defend providers that deserve it & Pixie is one of them. I guarantee this could even hurt my business because I'm convincing guys why they should see her, but that's just the woman I am.

XoXo Nat Nat.First off, hello everyone!

Figured it was time for me to step forward and come out of hiding. LOL. Hopefully after what Natalie, Newbie and a few others (you know who you are have said-all the back and forth talking will stop, and things are a little bit clearer now. Also, let the misinformed be informed now. .

Thank you to all of the gentlemen who have left me positive reviews, I am humbled and have much gratitude in me. And also thank you to the ones that haven't left such positive reviews. I take them all into consideration and just try to soften the rough edges.

Natalie. I've read nothing but great things about you, and if I saw anything negative-it was genuinely, pretty much petty B. S.

LOL. And BY ALL MEANS- don't sell yourself short sweetie. When you can say that you have that many positive reviews-then hell, you know you're doing something right! And if these gentlemen in here appreciate what you do-they'll continue to be there. It's great quality, and your reviews show that. If they have a problem, then it's their problem. LOL. That's not me being rude, or conceited, or arrogant. I'm far from it actually, and there are a few individuals around here that know that IS a fact about me. So keep up what you're doing' Miss Natalie!! And thank you again for the positive words, that's generosity right there. Smooches to you!!

And yes, THOSE ARE MY RATES. Cut and dry. They're what I started off with almost a year ago, and that's where they still are. So now that everyone has seen me say it myself those are the facts. (Although it was comical to see all the ludicrous amounts being slung out there. I think the absolute best was some asinine amount for a Hh with me. LMAO. What rubbed me the wrong way-was that the amnt stated was COMPLETELY UNREALISTIC-I'm sorry for the people that bought into that).

Gentlemen will be treated accordingly and of course, so will the "Less Than Gentlmanly". .

Oh. And yes, my GPS gets everyone where they need to be. Ha Ha.

Hugs & Kisses.

Pixie.

Zebra98
03-29-17, 18:57
Then Pixie has lowered her donation because she was asking 200 hh /250 fh. She is also generally outcall which adds cost to the monger.

Zebra.


I know Newbie (hehe) posted about this already, but I wanted to get on here and confirm it as well.

She is 150 HH AND 200 HR. ...

XoXo Nat Nat.

LegFanatic
03-31-17, 14:15
Welcome Pixie! Glad to have a new "reputable" option in the area. There are only a few that I trust anymore.

I will certainly try to plan a visit.

Figured it was time for me to step forward and come out of hiding. LOL. Hopefully after what Natalie, Newbie and a few others (you know who you are have said-all the back and forth talking will stop, and things are a little bit clearer now. Also, let the misinformed be informed now.

XNatalieX
04-03-17, 09:31
When you're going to see a provider that isn't reviewed (TOFFT) YOU RUN THE SHOW! It's your money, and the smart decision to make is to give the donation to her once she provides the service. She wants that donation more than anything and that'll be your way to get what you're wanting as well. If she whines, complains, goes and grabs her "friend / pimp" then get yourself dressed and leave with your hard earned money. These providers ripping guys off will continue doing it until they've ran through every possible client. If the provider isn't the one in the pictures (still talking about unreviewed providers) then you leave. That's false advertising and usually ends bad. Good providers also don't set timers unless they're running through client after client. Use your BIG head gentlemen.

XoXo Nat Nat.

BobUp
04-04-17, 22:54
Nat I agree with what you're saying with one exception. "Use your BIG head".


When you're going to see a provider that isn't reviewed (TOFFT) YOU RUN THE SHOW! It's your money, and the smart decision to make is to give the donation to her once she provides the service. She wants that donation more than anything and that'll be your way to get what you're wanting as well. If she whines, complains, goes and grabs her "friend / pimp" then get yourself dressed and leave with your hard earned money. These providers ripping guys off will continue doing it until they've ran through every possible client. If the provider isn't the one in the pictures (still talking about unreviewed providers) then you leave. That's false advertising and usually ends bad. Good providers also don't set timers unless they're running through client after client. Use your BIG head gentlemen.

XoXo Nat Nat.Our big head stops working at the site of a pretty scanty women. You know that. LOL.

BobUp
04-05-17, 00:05
Nat I agree with what you're saying with one exception. "Use your BIG head".

Our big head stops working at the site of a pretty scanty women. You know that. LOL.

Correction should have read, Our big head stops working at the site of a pretty scanty dressed women. You know that. LOL.

XNatalieX
04-05-17, 14:47
[Arrest/Conviction/Incarceration/Release Report deleted by Admin]

EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it was a report regarding an individual who was arrested / charged / awaiting trial / convicted / awaiting sentencing / incarcerated / released / on probation for engaging in commercial sex activities or any other non-violent crime.

I want to say this carefully so no one gets the wrong idea: Posting the names, mugshots, case status, incarceration status and/or the release dates of people who have been arrested for engaging in commercial sex activities is really just helping the police in their efforts to embarrass these people.

Since this website is all about assisting people in obtaining commercial sex services, we don't want to add to the problems of the unfortunate people who have been arrested by publishing their names, mugshots, case status, incarceration status, or release dates.

Thanks!

Are you fucking serious? That's it, you're gone. I really can't believe you fucking posted this.

A2

BobUp
04-07-17, 20:46
Natalie was about the only provider anymore who bothered to post in SB. I for one will miss her many insightful comments.

OnEyedWilly8
04-07-17, 23:00
Natalie was about the only provider anymore who bothered to post in SB. I for one will miss her many insightful comments.I've seen quite a few in sb area. But I never got the chance to meet nat. For one reason or another. I will miss her post. She was very helpful for us that really don't know the in and outs of the system. Will miss her comments. Thanks nat.

ChainedUp
04-07-17, 23:53
I am here in the firehouse because this opinion and not a review.

Usually if your honest and use your big head you see the truth.

I agree whole hardly with 5 on Emma.

For some reason these picture look unsavory.

They look forced and hurried.

I for one will not Even think of it, what an unsafe risk.

But even the ones I see are reviewed QUALITY but a few TOFTT I am safe and if it gets a check in my book I will repeat.

There are a hand full of great providers because it's a small area.

About time for a few visits soon, happy hunting.

Stay thirsty my friends.

And ladys.

JeeperCreeper
04-07-17, 23:56
Natalie was about the only provider anymore who bothered to post in SB. I for one will miss her many insightful comments.That really sucks. Is there any way to get her back in?

SouthBend
04-08-17, 17:25
Can anyone let me know what went on with Natalie? No details are needed just curious because people here are talking like if she died or something. She was actually nice to have around here.

INTravelingMan
04-08-17, 18:19
Can anyone let me know what went on with Natalie? No details are needed just curious because people here are talking like if she died or something. She was actually nice to have around here.Well I guess Nat posted something about another provider getting arrested and got banned.

Unico Vp
04-12-17, 06:04
I want to provide a little help, and insight into one provider who is currently in question, on how to research a dream member before the REM sleep starts.

If a provider uses a phone number that links to their Facebook account, that generally gives you their real name. If it links to a Facebook page and that page does not have their real name on it, which is the case with a certain blonde in question recently, look through the postings or through the friends on that page and you will most likely be able to discover their true identity.

Once you have the real name, go to mycase. In. Gov. And search that name in the system. If that provider's county reports into the system, and most do, it will bring up any Uncle LEO issues the provider has had. That includes non hobby related issues. It will even show civil cases.

I was never too worried about previous offenses, we all have a past. I was more worried about recent issues. Especially hobby related or recent felony charges.

A provider in those situations was almost always too risky in her actions for me to see.

Hope that helps.

SouthBend
04-12-17, 14:45
Well not going to lie, I do think it would be helpful to know who's in trouble with the uncle or even visiting. I missed the name since the post was already deleted when I came by. However I guess it's the people who run this forum decision so we all just have to accept that and move on. However if someone can message me who is the person in question that would be great so I won't message her LOL.

BTW something similar is I message Eliza to meet her for the first time. Yes I know there has been bad stuff said about her but I was thinking with the small head. However her messages were a little to explicit / visual and most of us know what happened to her dear friend that it made me think with the big head instead and decided to not dream of her.

P.S.: hope I don't get deleted and / or banned like a few post on this website lately LOL.

SB Friend
04-13-17, 09:16
I just thought this was funny, and I thought we needed a little humor infusion.

LuvGingerGirls
04-13-17, 13:02
Since Ft. Wayne doesn't have anything like The Underground or the Prickyard, here ya go.

BobUp
04-18-17, 12:43
In a moment of weakness, I turned to BP found an ad that sounded interesting. Sent text and received an almost immediate response. Setup was easy after a couple of exchanges agreed on time, rate and was given a location.

I show up at the incall on time a little nervous but very excited but nothing could have prepared me for what I saw. The door opens and I'm greeted with the most hideous sight I've ever seen. Nothing at all like the pictures no doubt they were stolen.

I'm so traumatized I've not left the house in days and have been researching chemical castration!

I was hesitant about posting the name of this individual but felt compelled to for the sake of the board.

It's was Indyguy123. He's been noticeably absent from the SB & Indy's boards and I believe I have found out why. It would appear that our Gorgeous Local Redhead may have turned the tables on him. The ad's gone now but here's a picture from another site.

BTW, if interested rates are at market value and he does return text. That's better than 75% of the girls in the area.

I won't repeat. Well maybe LOL.

INTravelingMan
04-18-17, 14:24
In a moment of weakness, I turned to BP found an ad that sounded interesting. Sent text and received an almost immediate response. Setup was easy after a couple of exchanges agreed on time, rate and was given a location.

I show up at the incall on time a little nervous but very excited but nothing could have prepared me for what I saw. The door opens and I'm greeted with the most hideous sight I've ever seen. Nothing at all like the pictures no doubt they were stolen.

I'm so traumatized I've not left the house in days and have been researching chemical castration!

I was hesitant about posting the name of this individual but felt compelled to for the sake of the board.

It's was Indyguy123. He's been noticeably absent from the SB & Indy's boards and I believe I have found out why. It would appear that our Gorgeous Local Redhead may have turned the tables on him. The ad's gone now but here's a picture from another site.

BTW, if interested rates are at market value and he does return text. That's better than 75% of the girls in the area.

I won't repeat. Well maybe LOL.I think you are too kind to Indyguy123 with that picture. At least that picture shows a guy that has muscles and a 6 pack. His true pictures are far more hideous than the one you posted. I cannot post his true pictures on here for fear of making the whole site crash.

Slow Ride
04-18-17, 21:48
I didn't realize that Duke Nukem resided in Indiana. Who would have thought?

Slow.


I think you are too kind to Indyguy123 with that picture. At least that picture shows a guy that has muscles and a 6 pack. His true pictures are far more hideous than the one you posted. I cannot post his true pictures on here for fear of making the whole site crash.

JeeperCreeper
04-22-17, 00:16
I've been thinking about having a dream girl visit me at a campsite at Potato State Creek Park or Maple Ridge Campground (North Liberty area) this summer during my camping trips at times when I'm alone at the campsite. It's not that far from South Bend so I figured I could see whether girls from South Bend (maybe, even Mishawaka) are up for traveling a few miles. Does this sound realistically doable? Any thoughts?

BxrBoy
04-24-17, 10:58
I've been thinking about having a dream girl visit me at a campsite at Potato State Creek Park or Maple Ridge Campground (North Liberty area) this summer during my camping trips at times when I'm alone at the campsite. It's not that far from South Bend so I figured I could see whether girls from South Bend (maybe, even Mishawaka) are up for traveling a few miles. Does this sound realistically doable? Any thoughts?Sounds like the beginning of a Crimnal Minds episode. Good luck.

INTravelingMan
04-24-17, 17:00
Time to do spring cleaning.

BobUp
04-24-17, 19:32
Time to do spring cleaning.Box scrubbed out.

SB Friend
04-25-17, 09:16
Box scrubbed out.I'll leave it to Noobie to follow up on that one.

IndyGuy123
04-25-17, 09:43
In a moment of weakness, I turned to BP found an ad that sounded interesting. Sent text and received an almost immediate response. Setup was easy after a couple of exchanges agreed on time, rate and was given a location.

I show up at the incall on time a little nervous but very excited but nothing could have prepared me for what I saw. The door opens and I'm greeted with the most hideous sight I've ever seen. Nothing at all like the pictures no doubt they were stolen.

I'm so traumatized I've not left the house in days and have been researching chemical castration!

I was hesitant about posting the name of this individual but felt compelled to for the sake of the board.

It's was Indyguy123. He's been noticeably absent from the SB & Indy's boards and I believe I have found out why. It would appear that our Gorgeous Local Redhead may have turned the tables on him. The ad's gone now but here's a picture from another site.

BTW, if interested rates are at market value and he does return text. That's better than 75% of the girls in the area.

I won't repeat. Well maybe LOL.Well I think I have made you wait long enough. My delayed response was done for two beneficial reasons. First, there was a hope that you were still cooped up in hiding. Figured I would help out the region for as long as possible by keeping you off the streets. Second is the castration part. The longer you stayed cooped up the better the chances. This would finish the transformation (see below).

As far as my picture is concerned, so what if I use old pictures. You know most of the BP girls do it so why can't I. The 6 pack and buzz cut are long gone but the bulge is still there.


I think you are too kind to Indyguy123 with that picture. At least that picture shows a guy that has muscles and a 6 pack. His true pictures are far more hideous than the one you posted. I cannot post his true pictures on here for fear of making the whole site crash.I know the pictures that you speak of. All I can say is that if you knew the effects it had on that Redhead that Bobup mentioned, you would be going on a little shopping spree to buy some for yourself.


Bobup your box if full! Time to do spring cleaning.The castration he references above is being considered at home because he maxed out his insurance benefits. He had the box made but still needs the last surgery to get rid of little bob for the MtF transformation to be completed. Even though poor Bobup is stuck in limbo with having his dream come true, he is well on his way currently advertising as a TS. He told me he is doing so well that his box is always full!
Indy Guy

BobUp
04-25-17, 10:56
I'll leave it to Noobie to follow up on that one.Dude that's wrong that's just wrong.

Noobie67
04-25-17, 19:27
I'll leave it to Noobie to follow up on that one.No way in hell am I Taking one for the team on that one! Damn I take a vacation from the land of oz to a place where all my dreams come dreams come true. With unicorns and other fairy creatures.

Only to return to talk of Bobups castration, cleaning his box out, which I'm sure would take one hell of a cleaning company and acid wash, to indyguys transformation into I'm not sure what. But as long as he thinks he is hot, I will continue to support the special guy.

Damn what has happened to our world.

Noobie.

Freckle Freak
04-26-17, 08:49
You would think with all the Irish Blood in town you guys could at least find some decent FRECKLES for a freak to play with! Don't ask me for any favors if any of you want to make a trip to the Circle City to play. IG just needs to move there because he is spending way to much money on fuel and wear and tear on his Limo!

BobUp
04-26-17, 10:52
You would think with all the Irish Blood in town you guys could at least find some decent FRECKLES for a freak to play with! Don't ask me for any favors if any of you want to make a trip to the Circle City to play. IG just needs to move there because he is spending way to much money on fuel and wear and tear on his Limo!The playing field here is small and you want to narrow it down to freckles! Freckles? Hell I'd settle for reliability, I can bring a red Sharpie.

IG: he's taking advantage of one of our natural resources. I believe I can speak for all the mongers up here when I say we have no sympathy for his wasted fuel or wear and tear on this buggy. Or anything else he's trying to wear down for that matter.

Nearly every week on we pass on 31 around Rochester the Prick won't even wave.

BTW if you're not going to be my clubbing guide Friday I hope the fishing sucks this summer and the Frog only has warm beer.

Noobie67
04-26-17, 13:09
You would think with all the Irish Blood in town you guys could at least find some decent FRECKLES for a freak to play with! Don't ask me for any favors if any of you want to make a trip to the Circle City to play. IG just needs to move there because he is spending way to much money on fuel and wear and tear on his Limo!I can easily draw freckles on bonus for you.

Freckle Freak
04-26-17, 13:13
The playing field here is small and you want to narrow it down to freckles! Freckles? Hell I'd settle for reliability, I can bring a red Sharpie.

IG: he's taking advantage of one of our natural resources. I believe I can speak for all the mongers up here when I say we have no sympathy for his wasted fuel or wear and tear on this buggy. Or anything else he's trying to wear down for that matter.

Nearly every week on we pass on 31 around Rochester the Prick won't even wave.

BTW if you're not going to be my clubbing guide Friday I hope the fishing sucks this summer and the Frog only has warm beer.Booster for the Irish? Can't you come up with some freckled Irish co-eds?

So to be short. He never waves. Clubbing will be hard because I have a lot of running to do on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The fishing always sucks because I'm a terrible fisherman. If the Frog has warm beer we can always drink a cold one on the dock.

Freckle Freak
04-27-17, 10:59
I can easily draw freckles on bonus for you.They have tattoo freckles now, no need to draw besides you are way to busy looking for pussy to take the time out to be an artist!

IndyGuy123
04-28-17, 10:47
LOL. Read the 2nd image. And the third party gets involved.
http://southbend.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/do-not-trust-her-ema-may/23838358
Indy Guy.

LegFanatic
05-05-17, 13:44
I'm going to "jump the wall" and head to Indy next week. Should I follow the trail of the knuckle draggers or find my own way?

Any words of wisdom or helpful advice about the "other side" would be appreciated.

Leg.

IndyGuy123
05-08-17, 14:16
I'm going to "jump the wall" and head to Indy next week. Should I follow the trail of the knuckle draggers or find my own way?

Any words of wisdom or helpful advice about the "other side" would be appreciated.

Leg.Give me your type / likes and I will post suggestions today.

Indy Guy *The Original Knuckle Dragger*.

LegFanatic
05-08-17, 14:28
Give me your type / likes and I will post suggestions today.

Indy Guy *The Original Knuckle Dragger*.I have been doing my research and thanks to many in Indy, I have a pretty good list.

Freckle Freak created a new board in Indy and it has one of the best lists I have seen.

My likes: Tina is one of my all time favorites! Natalie is a great lady, and holds a special spot for me.

Julianna has the hottest body, but way too many rules. No repeat.

Ms. Patience is very hot and a lot of fun. Definitely repeat.

Ginger has a great body, but very mechanical. No repeat. Her friend Lynn was the same. Haven't seen her post in a long time.

I have had better luck with with 30+ year olds. Their experience and attention to detail has been better than most.

I appreciate your help Indy.

IndyGuy123
05-08-17, 14:33
IG going to get jelly.C'Mon. Man! You as much as anyone up north should know I don't get jelly. I just take it up a level or, if necessary, fight dirty. I may lose an occasional battle but I always win the war. In this case, the war is her retirement to the lap of luxury. Oh ya that lap of luxury just happens to be my lap. Don't worry! Once retirement occurs, if I like you I may just give you an invite to my personal homemade video library.

Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard.

P.S.- Normally this signature is reserved for The Prickyard but in this case I think it is appropriate.

INTravelingMan
05-08-17, 17:59
I'm going to "jump the wall" and head to Indy next week. Should I follow the trail of the knuckle draggers or find my own way?

Any words of wisdom or helpful advice about the "other side" would be appreciated.

Leg.This is a new thread on the Indy boards where Freckle Freak posted some reviews of good providers. I don't know many of them, but those guys seem to be dead on with the ones that I do know. So I trust that the list should give you a good starting point.

SouthBend
05-14-17, 19:24
So now that Natalie is leaving. Who will be the new undisputed best dream of the area? Aksana, economic stimulus, Tasha, Jaida, Ms patience? Am I missing someone? We should have a vote here LOL.

Also sad what has happened to the young duo of the red head and sugar girl. They had so much potential but the habit took over it seems. Js.

DakotaDog
05-14-17, 20:56
So now that Natalie is leaving. Who will be the new undisputed best dream of the area? Aksana, economic stimulus, Tasha, Jaida, Ms patience? Am I missing someone? We should have a vote here LOL.

Also sad what has happened to the young duo of the red head and sugar girl. They had so much potential but the habit took over it seems. Js.What happened? I must have missed it. I know Redhead. She was texting me just last week.

BobUp
05-15-17, 00:21
Also sad what has happened to the young duo of the red head and sugar girl. They had so much potential but the habit took over it seems. Js.Sad indeed. Never net the redhead but wrote a nice review of "sugar girl" back in Jan. I think she's a pretty smart girl, Liked her a lot. I just don't understand.

Shinedown: Save Me.

The hardest question to answer

Is why

Why

Somebody save me

Please don't erase me.

SouthBend
05-15-17, 09:41
Is Natalie only seeing friends now? Because I tried contacting her several times but no response. I saw her only once a long time ago and doubt she remembers at all. I was nice and now when trying to contact her as well.

IndyGuy123
05-16-17, 07:59
Is Natalie only seeing friends now? Because I tried contacting her several times but no response. I saw her only once a long time ago and doubt she remembers at all. I was nice and now when trying to contact her as well.Yes and no.

She has already lowered her volume so getting scheduled with her can be tough. I would suggest to text her again and PM through here (VixenRed). This forum has been good to her so she prefers gentlemen (LOL) from this board when possible.


So now that Natalie is leaving. Who will be the new undisputed best dream of the area?She ain't gone yet so don't hand the crown over yet. She has a goal to achieve to enable her retirement. She has come up with an estimate on how long it will take to reach that goal but there is always the chance that goal will take a bit longer to achieve than planned. However, don't plan on it being a whole lot longer. She is going through a change in life that is great for her and I for one say she is better now than ever.

Indy Guy.

P.S.- Normally I need cruise control on my way back from SB because my legs are shaking. Yesterday, I needed autopilot because I couldn't stay awake. I now believe it is possible to be fucked into a coma. Apologies to her neighbors who we disturbed!

IndyGuy123
05-17-17, 00:12
So most everyone knows that Mandy (the former redhead) has her issues with our least favorite pharmaceutical. Well long story short, I have connections in a certain medical facility up in the region. It has been relayed to me that some time late last week, Mandy OD'd on H. She was hospitalized when this occured. At some point, she was released (I didn't find out when because it doesn't really matter). As is the case with any OD case, she is being offered the help that she needs to help herself get clean. I cannot factually speak on exactly what is the status of this but the girl needs it bad. Otherwise, she will end up dead. If you do not know this with every OD occurence the probability of being revived is lowered making the likelihood of death greater. She is already back posting on BP. I am not going to speculate on exactly what her plans are but I personally question the likelihood of her seeking that help (sure hope I am wrong). Everyone is free to do as they want but I think it may be a good idea for everyone to stay away from her right now. Maybe a hard time getting clients will increase her chances of going to rehab.

Indy Guy.

P.S.- Mandy, if you read this you really should think long and hard about taking up the options that are there for you!

GFeon1
05-17-17, 06:35
So most everyone knows that Mandy (the former redhead) has her issues with our least favorite pharmaceutical. Well long story short, I have connections in a certain medical facility up in the region. It has been relayed to me that some time late last week, Mandy OD'd on H. She was hospitalized when this occured. At some point, she was released (I didn't find out when because it doesn't really matter). As is the case with any OD case, she is being offered the help that she needs to help herself get clean. I cannot factually speak on exactly what is the status of this but the girl needs it bad. Otherwise, she will end up dead. If you do not know this with every OD occurence the probability of being revived is lowered making the likelihood of death greater. She is already back posting on BP. I am not going to speculate on exactly what her plans are but I personally question the likelihood of her seeking that help (sure hope I am wrong). Everyone is free to do as they want but I think it may be a good idea for everyone to stay away from her right now. Maybe a hard time getting clients will increase her chances of going to rehab.

Indy Guy.

P.S.- Mandy, if you read this you really should think long and hard about taking up the options that are there for you!Great post and I agree completely. Let this young lady get the help she needs for herself and her child. So slick of seeing these young lady's give they're life to that shit. I watched another favorite (Alice) give it all up because she got pregnant and am happy to say she is clean and has been for 8 months or so.

PartyTime574
05-18-17, 17:12
So most everyone knows that Mandy (the former redhead) has her issues with our least favorite pharmaceutical. Well long story short, I have connections in a certain medical facility up in the region. It has been relayed to me that some time late last week, Mandy OD'd on H. She was hospitalized when this occured. At some point, she was released (I didn't find out when because it doesn't really matter). As is the case with any OD case, she is being offered the help that she needs to help herself get clean. I cannot factually speak on exactly what is the status of this but the girl needs it bad. Otherwise, she will end up dead. If you do not know this with every OD occurence the probability of being revived is lowered making the likelihood of death greater. She is already back posting on BP. I am not going to speculate on exactly what her plans are but I personally question the likelihood of her seeking that help (sure hope I am wrong). Everyone is free to do as they want but I think it may be a good idea for everyone to stay away from her right now. Maybe a hard time getting clients will increase her chances of going to rehab.

Indy Guy.

P.S.- Mandy, if you read this you really should think long and hard about taking up the options that are there for you!That is a bummer to hear. Saw her about a month ago and she seemed a little messed up but wouldn't have guessed that. Wish I had just walked away now. Was a bad experience.

SouthBend
05-22-17, 12:11
So I'm wondering why some ladies post and never answer. And I mean never. I usually try 2 or 3 attempts during different times and just give up after that. At least nat let's you know when it would work out and is nice about it. But pixie never responds back. Js. And no, I am not a prick when I message them. I try to be as nice as possible. That's just my question, why post if you will only see regulars? I assure your regulars will call you regardless if you post or not. Ok rant over. Have a nice day peeps.

Noobie67
05-22-17, 12:32
So I'm wondering why some ladies post and never answer. And I mean never. I usually try 2 or 3 attempts during different times and just give up after that. At least nat let's you know when it would work out and is nice about it. But pixie never responds back. Js. And no, I am not a prick when I message them. I try to be as nice as possible. That's just my question, why post if you will only see regulars? I assure your regulars will call you regardless if you post or not. Ok rant over. Have a nice day peeps.So this use to really piss me off too! Recently, I have learned more about the other side. I could be wrong, but I believe Nat only posts during working hours. Some the girls have it setup for automatic posting. So even though a post will go up. It doesn't really mean they are available at that moment. And then when they do become available they have 50 text messages. Some girls try and answer them all some don't.

Not saying it is right or wrong. Just saying I understand it a bit more now.

Noobie.

SouthBend
05-22-17, 13:54
So this use to really piss me off too! Recently, I have learned more about the other side. I could be wrong, but I believe Nat only posts during working hours. Some the girls have it setup for automatic posting. So even though a post will go up. It doesn't really mean they are available at that moment. And then when they do become available they have 50 text messages. Some girls try and answer them all some don't.

Not saying it is right or wrong. Just saying I understand it a bit more now.

Noobie.Yeah I understand that part. They are not available at 24/7, they have a life. But at least nat returns your message when she can. I just mean others that I even ask when would be a good time for you since I usually like to schedule ahead of time. And I message them for example today at 9 am. Let's say 2 days later I message them at 3 pm. And let's say I message them 2 days later at 6 or 7 pm. Really you can't respond at all? Then they complain why everyone fight over the same top 2 or 3 providers in the area. Well it's because the skills, attitude, hygiene, and THEY RESPOND LOL. Also what's up with some top notch dreams not seeing younger guys? I got rejected by Deb and pixie for being to young. Really? I dress kinda nice meaning my pants are not down to my butt. My messages are nice and respectful. I have a bachelor degree and have a decent job. Everything goes well until they ask me how old I am (deb) or send them a picture (pixie). Really? Only because I'm 24. And no I don't think I'm the next channing Tatum other brad pit. But I'm also not hideous and work out a little LOL.

SORRY FOR THE RANT LOL. It's just that I've been trying to see a new dream because I just want to explore more then the usual ones I see.

BUT I ALSO AGREE THAT ALL LADIES CAN PICK AND CHOOSE WHO THEY SEE. After all it's there life. I just don't agree with this ladies reason. Maybe if I look like a thug or a stood them up then yes I would agree. But now I'm ok, I will keep hunting and see what I get.

Noobie67
05-22-17, 19:22
Yeah I understand that part. They are not available at 24/7, they have a life. But at least nat returns your message when she can. I just mean others that I even ask when would be a good time for you since I usually like to schedule ahead of time. And I message them for example today at 9 am. Let's say 2 days later I message them at 3 pm. And let's say I message them 2 days later at 6 or 7 pm. Really you can't respond at all? Then they complain why everyone fight over the same top 2 or 3 providers in the area. Well it's because the skills, attitude, hygiene, and THEY RESPOND LOL. Also what's up with some top notch dreams not seeing younger guys? I got rejected by Deb and pixie for being to young. Really? I dress kinda nice meaning my pants are not down to my butt. My messages are nice and respectful. I have a bachelor degree and have a decent job. Everything goes well until they ask me how old I am (deb) or send them a picture (pixie). Really? Only because I'm 24. And no I don't think I'm the next channing Tatum other brad pit. But I'm also not hideous and work out a little LOL.

SORRY FOR THE RANT LOL. It's just that I've been trying to see a new dream because I just want to explore more then the usual ones I see.

BUT I ALSO AGREE THAT ALL LADIES CAN PICK AND CHOOSE WHO THEY SEE. After all it's there life. I just don't agree with this ladies reason. Maybe if I look like a thug or a stood them up then yes I would agree. But now I'm ok, I will keep hunting and see what I get.Maybe check the picture you sent, is there a booger hanging from your nose?

I get the frustration. I don't travel or play anything like I use too but I still keep on eye on things and the the pickings are getting very slim in this area!! I would assume the top 2 or 3 have their phones ringing off the hook.

Not sure what the answer is or if there even is one.

Noob.

DebraHollander
05-22-17, 23:15
Also what's up with some top notch dreams not seeing younger guys? I got rejected by Deb and pixie for being to young. Really? I dress kinda nice meaning my pants are not down to my butt. My messages are nice and respectful. I have a bachelor degree and have a decent job. Everything goes well until they ask me how old I am (deb) or send them a picture (pixie). Really? Only because I'm 24. And no I don't think I'm the next channing Tatum other brad pit. But I'm also not hideous and work out a little LOL.

SORRY FOR THE RANT LOL. It's just that I've been trying to see a new dream because I just want to explore more then the usual ones I see.

BUT I ALSO AGREE THAT ALL LADIES CAN PICK AND CHOOSE WHO THEY SEE. After all it's there life. I just don't agree with this ladies reason. Maybe if I look like a thug or a stood them up then yes I would agree. But now I'm ok, I will keep hunting and see what I get.I'm sorry if I didn't explain my reasons for having an age minimum; it is not true age discrimination, in my opinion, as I have no preconceived notions or prejudices regarding younger gentlemen.

The simple truth is that I'm truly uncomfortable with anyone whose age is closer to my oldest child's than my own. In your case, you are just a few years older than my son! The thought of sharing time with someone in my child's age group is wholly unappealing to me. Perhaps that's not very professional, but please understand that this is rather more personal than giving a haircut. LOL.

I've tried having encounters with young men but was unable to feel relaxed or even convincingly fake any interest or enjoyment, and thus, the experiences were less than they should have been. So I decided not to continue offering what would only be sub-par services to those in your age group.

What can I say? I'm just NOT a cougar. Again, I apologize if my reasons were not personally explained to you. They are, however, briefly mentioned on the FAQs page of my site. Xoxoxo.

IndyGuy123
05-23-17, 09:35
Yeah I understand that part. They are not available at 24/7, they have a life. But at least nat returns your message when she can. I just mean others that I even ask when would be a good time for you since I usually like to schedule ahead of time. And I message them for example today at 9 am. Let's say 2 days later I message them at 3 pm. And let's say I message them 2 days later at 6 or 7 pm. Really you can't respond at all? Then they complain why everyone fight over the same top 2 or 3 providers in the area. Well it's because the skills, attitude, hygiene, and THEY RESPOND LOL. Also what's up with some top notch dreams not seeing younger guys? I got rejected by Deb and pixie for being to young. Really? I dress kinda nice meaning my pants are not down to my butt. My messages are nice and respectful. I have a bachelor degree and have a decent job. Everything goes well until they ask me how old I am (deb) or send them a picture (pixie). Really? Only because I'm 24. And no I don't think I'm the next channing Tatum other brad pit. But I'm also not hideous and work out a little LOL.

SORRY FOR THE RANT LOL. It's just that I've been trying to see a new dream because I just want to explore more then the usual ones I see.

BUT I ALSO AGREE THAT ALL LADIES CAN PICK AND CHOOSE WHO THEY SEE. After all it's there life. I just don't agree with this ladies reason. Maybe if I look like a thug or a stood them up then yes I would agree. But now I'm ok, I will keep hunting and see what I get.Debra beat me to half of what I was going to say. You will find that on many of the mature (but still excellent) ladies. If a mature provider is truly struggling for business they may bend on that rule but the top notch ones will generally not budge. Just as we say guys have choices on who they want to see, the ladies many times are the same way. A quality provider (both clean and addicts) will generally get at least 10 times as many contacts as they will see.

Another reason could be the providers you are contacting. I did not look thru your past posts and am not stating this in a judgemental way but this can be a major issue with addict providers. An addicted provider will post and respond until they get a client in the door, get the money, their fix, and then pass out. When they wake up and need another fix, the cycle repeats itself. If you are lucky (depending on your definition of luck), the lady may respond while looking thru texts that were received in that down time. This is often the reason for a text that comes in 3-4 hours later.

Indy Guy.

SouthBend
05-23-17, 11:18
I understand the reasons now. Totally makes sense from her point of view. I do apologize for putting both ladies on the spot. And wish them the best. And yes IG, I agree and even said it on my previous post. The ladies have the right to pick and choose who they see.

Well now I go back to the hunting then.

INTravelingMan
05-23-17, 11:41
I understand the reasons now. Totally makes sense from her point of view. I do apologize for putting both ladies on the spot. And wish them the best. And yes IG, I agree and even said it on my previous post. The ladies have the right to pick and choose who they see.

Well now I go back to the hunting then.So what's a few years? I am older than I look and I get that all the time. I have been mistaken for as young as 25 within the last month and I don't have any issues getting providers to see me.

BobUp
05-23-17, 18:19
... Also what's up with some top notch dreams not seeing younger guys? I got rejected by Deb and pixie for being to young. Really? I dress kinda nice meaning my pants are not down to my butt. My messages are nice and respectful. I have a bachelor degree and have a decent job. Everything goes well until they ask me how old I am (***) or send them a picture (*****). Really? Only because I'm 24. And no I don't think I'm the next channing Tatum other brad pit. But I'm also not hideous and work out a little LOL.

SORRY FOR THE RANT LOL. It's just that I've been trying to see a new dream because I just want to explore more then the usual ones I see.

BUT I ALSO AGREE THAT ALL LADIES CAN PICK AND CHOOSE WHO THEY SEE. After all it's there life. I just don't agree with this ladies reason. Maybe if I look like a thug or a stood them up then yes I would agree. But now I'm ok, I will keep hunting and see what I get.Hopefully this topic has run its course but allow me to throw my two cents in quickly.

Sounds like your appointment request may be to in depth? Be polite, give a short introduction and what you're requesting. No need for a complete resume. I've seen a buttload of providers (actually a buttload and a half) over many years and have never once asked my age. Only recently have I ever been asked for a photo. You're trying too hard my friend.

It doesn't matter how much you want to continue riding beating a dead horse is not going to get you anywhere.

Noobie67
05-23-17, 20:50
Hopefully this topic has run its course but allow me to throw my two cents in quickly.

Sounds like your appointment request may be to in depth? Be polite, give a short introduction and what you're requesting. No need for a complete resume. I've seen a buttload of providers (actually a buttload and a half) over many years and have never once asked my age. Only recently have I ever been asked for a photo. You're trying too hard my friend.

It doesn't matter how much you want to continue riding beating a dead horse is not going to get you anywhere.Aaannndd giving bobup back 1 cent in change.

Freckle Freak
05-26-17, 09:53
The simple truth is that I'm truly uncomfortable with anyone whose age is closer to my oldest child's than my own. In your case, you are just a few years older than my son! The thought of sharing time with someone in my child's age group is wholly unappealing to me. Perhaps that's not very professional, but please understand that this is rather more personal than giving a haircut. LOL.

I've tried having encounters with young men but was unable to feel relaxed or even convincingly fake any interest or enjoyment, and thus, the experiences were less than they should have been. So I decided not to continue offering what would only be sub-par services to those in your age group.Guys like me who fall into your grandfather's category. Hmmm don't answer that, I don't want to be disappointed once again. Guess it's time to hit Miller's Merry Manor again with some Ky. Damn to be his age again so I had something this insignificant to b*tch about.

DebraHollander
05-31-17, 10:19
Guys like me who fall into your grandfather's category. Hmmm don't answer that, I don't want to be disappointed once again. Guess it's time to hit Miller's Merry Manor again with some Ky. Damn to be his age again so I had something this insignificant to b*tch about.In fact, the vast majority of my friends are over 55. Many are well into their 60's and a few in their 70's. The oldest client I ever had was 89!

If grandfather were still among us, he'd be over 100.

SouthBend
05-31-17, 16:36
So are there 2? Because I see post of Debra Hollander and Debbie Darling. With ages 41 and 42 respectively. Because the one I contacted was Debbie via email and the one that responded me on here thinking I was talking about her was Debra. LOL it was my fault though because I just wrote Deb.

Clear example why we should be very clear of who we are talking about. Especially of reviews on the other thread when people sometimes don't even put name, partial phone number or url.

DebraHollander
06-01-17, 07:13
So are there 2? Because I see post of Debra Hollander and Debbie Darling. With ages 41 and 42 respectively. Because the one I contacted was Debbie via email and the one that responded me on here thinking I was talking about her was Debra. LOL it was my fault though because I just wrote Deb.

Clear example why we should be very clear of who we are talking about. Especially of reviews on the other thread when people sometimes don't even put name, partial phone number or url.Sorry, I'm not usually so self-centered as to assume a conversation is about ME, but I have been discussed here and I DO have an age limit LOL.

Anyway, yes there are two of us. I used to be "Debbie" too but changed it to Debra Hollander a little over a year ago. One of the reasons was due to being confused / mistaken for other "Debbies" LOL.

INTravelingMan
06-02-17, 18:24
So what's a few years? I am older than I look and I get that all the time. I have been mistaken for as young as 25 within the last month and I don't have any issues getting providers to see me.I got called out recently by a provider (who shall remain nameless) in response to this prior post by this 24 year old want to be cougar bait. The provider had the nerve to ask me if I was willing to encourage someone to lie about their age, what else I would be willing to lie about! Show of hands, how many providers have never lied to a monger about anything? If you honestly have never lied to a monger about anything, then please PM me because I want your name and number (so I can put you on my black list because that itself is a lie). This provider lies about age and many other things and has the nerve to insinuate that I would lie! Pot calling the kettle black there girlie.

Liltim
06-04-17, 01:44
The 2 gals posted this today.

FROM BP.


To whom all it may concern (which is just about everyone)

Hi there!
Mandy & Eliza here.

We have been bullied & slandered long enough to end our silence. Please keep in mind that we have not retaliated in any way nor submerged any form of attack to begin with. This nonsense has got to stop. Please.
NO we do not have any diseases or STD'S etc. We get checked regularly. I for one have only been dreaming since October, raised in clean cut middle class Notre Dame area, & am just not trying to be in student loan debt for the rest of my life. Mandy is just trying to make a living as well as the rest of us. & We have done nothing but.

NO we are not: "junkies" "users/abusers" "partiers" we are DDF. Yes we have had fun in the past but many of your favorite providers have & actually still do just keeping it from you but that's none of our business just like ours is none of yours.

To the provider who has such a vendetta bc of jealousy (that inwas long forwarded about but had no idea they meant to this extreme) PLEASE stop calling the cherries & berries on us bc we're on your "turf". We don't mess up your deal up with hotel owners so please don't mess up our dreamers. PLEASE stop contacting anyone & everyone saying, "you won't see them if they see us", "we're affidavit with law enforcement because WE ARE NOT. Though you clearly are.PLEASE stop posting & spreading slander if anything you make up to deem true. We have NOT ONCE came to you in any way other than me needing help a long time ago with this business in general and you ignored me/us.
We would appreciate it if you would come to us before ever going to them (or to said provider, dreamers).
We are SO thankful for all of the fun & good memories those who have stayed with us (once or regularly) you all are the best! To remember birthdays & events is very touching & we hope you feel the same.
Thank You http://southbend.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/enough-is-enough/25373168

This could get interesting.

TwoToke
06-04-17, 07:37
The 2 gals posted this today.

FROM BP.

http://southbend.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/enough-is-enough/25373168

This could get interesting.Those girls are sick of her bashing them I don't blame them for telling her to fuck off she stepped over the line on that she is like a BP monitor. Who fucking cares if they do drugs its not our life its there's grow up little girl stop the bashing I'm sick of fucking hearing it. She must be jealous of them. I would say she needs to hurry up on the retirment plan what ever thay is I don't think she knows. Lmao.

ThatChick85
06-04-17, 14:08
How is telling the truth bashing? Just curious.


Those girls are sick of her bashing them I don't blame them for telling her to fuck off she stepped over the line on that she is like a BP monitor. Who fucking cares if they do drugs its not our life its there's grow up little girl stop the bashing I'm sick of fucking hearing it. She must be jealous of them. I would say she needs to hurry up on the retirment plan what ever thay is I don't think she knows. Lmao.

TwoToke
06-04-17, 20:24
How is telling the truth bashing? Just curious.Well its more like being a narc telling peopled that they use drugs. Is it your business no it isn't or hers or mine its there's. The last I new your paying for a good time not being a superhero and saving a user selling her goodies. If guys want to see them then what's the problem until they start ripping guys off left and right then bash but a drug problem come on shut the fuck up god damn. I know plenty off users and trust me they have more than you and nat nat put together so get off it. And no I haven't seen Mandy or Eliza so no white knighting here. I'm just feed up with the relentless bashing pursue of those girls. Unless they tread on you keep your mouth shut. I reached out to Nathalie on some decent reviewed provider's and all she did was talk bad about them. There drug problem.

SouthBend
06-04-17, 21:38
I disagree. Yes it's not my business if they use drugs. However to know if a provider uses them can be very helpful when deciding to see them or not. A provider hooked on heavy stuff may be more closely watch by our favorite uncle or be more prone to crime, more risk of being desperate and ripping me off, be involve with pimps that provide them with their addiction. As well as the fact that sometimes needles are used for their fun, and using needles can spread diseases. Also I don't want some provider overdosing right before or right after I dream them, because my uncle might really want to see if that happens. Also I wished there was it was allowed to share information of people staying or recently stayed at our uncle LEO house. That would be helpful when deciding who to see. Unfortunately that is not allowed.

Just my opinion. Since I only like to dream of reliable disease and drug free providers.

TwoToke
06-04-17, 22:05
I disagree. Yes it's not my business if they use drugs. However to know if a provider uses them can be very helpful when deciding to see them or not. A provider hooked on heavy stuff may be more closely watch by our favorite uncle or be more prone to crime, more risk of being desperate and ripping me off, be involve with pimps that provide them with their addiction. As well as the fact that sometimes needles are used for their fun, and using needles can spread diseases. Also I don't want some provider overdosing right before or right after I dream them, because my uncle might really want to see if that happens. Also I wished there was it was allowed to share information of people staying or recently stayed at our uncle LEO house. That would be helpful when deciding who to see. Unfortunately that is not allowed.

Just my opinion. Since I only like to dream of reliable disease and drug free providers.All I can say is administration on this board felt the same way I do that's why she isn't on here anymore to much block monitoring. This is all I'm saying on this matter anymore bash me all you want. Sounds like some have never seen a girl that has never used wow I'm curious how did you do that.

IndyGuy123
06-05-17, 14:07
Being close to this situation, I am going to try to stick with facts and not opinions or personal feelings.


Well its more like being a narc telling peopled that they use drugs. Is it your business no it isn't or hers or mine its there's. The last I new your paying for a good time not being a superhero and saving a user selling her goodies. If guys want to see them then what's the problem until they start ripping guys off left and right then bash but a drug problem come on shut the fuck up god damn. I know plenty off users and trust me they have more than you and nat nat put together so get off it. And no I haven't seen Mandy or Eliza so no white knighting here. I'm just feed up with the relentless bashing pursue of those girls. Unless they tread on you keep your mouth shut. I reached out to Nathalie on some decent reviewed provider's and all she did was talk bad about them. There drug problem.If we want to call it being a NARC then every monger on here that every posts about definite or suspected drug use is a NARC. In this case, it is not one monger giving an opinion on a situation (even if that opinion may be factual). Some mongers could care less if a provider is drug free but many others do and those members I suspect want to know this.
In reference to guys being ripped off that has occured on multiple occasions. This info did not come from Natalie in anyway. This came directly to me from a few of the most trusted members of the SB forum. I posted on it a couple months back. At least at that time, the rip offs were limited to outcalls. They would take the money and run. The ripoffs did not occur on incalls because it is a little hard to run away from the place where you are living, all your stuff is, and you have to go back to.
Natalie will tell you info she knows on users. She is a former heavy user and has a particular short fuse for ladies that say they are drug free when she knows they are not; knowing the amount of work and / or pain it takes to better your life in this scenario. It is lovely when a young lady is DDF but was in the hospital a little over a month ago for a heroin overdose. Her friend is just trying to pay off student loans but that is funny because Sallie Mae must have hired a drug dealer for the payment collections. I guess she wasnt buying heroin either of the times I was in the hotel parking lot, watched her jump in, give him money, and then run back into the hotel. Maybe the Fed should hire more guys like that and the default rate on student loans wouldbnt be so bad.
In reference to treading on her, yes this directly has happened. Mandy made a concerted effort to get Natalie arrested as she was being escorted out of a hotel by the police. This was confirmed by a hotel employee directly to me. Also a senior member reached out directly to Natalie when Mandy showed up on the scene originally trying to get her to help her. She was being pimped out, forced to see large numbers of men per day, and basically being held hostage by pharmaceuticals. Natalie tried to no avail and before any of this stuff went out in the open, it was confirmed by several sources including hotel employees that she was making all attempts to ruin Natalie. Last, a different senior member went to Natalie asking her to help Eliza to get on her feet away from Mandy this winter. This is a fact because the member came to me before even talking to Nat. Long story short was he liked Eliza and could see that the longer the two of them were together, the worse Eliza was getting. Against my request, Natalie reached out to Eliza to try and see if she could help her. The conversation went along the lines of Eliza saying that Mandy was an addict and wanted to get away from her. After Nat offered this help, Eliza went totally silent, then never would respond, and now she is writing that she was ignored. I have read the texts myself and can confirm this is not true. This is the part where it get personal. You or I would also be pissed if you were only and publicly being lied about. The difference here is it is playing out where we can all see it.


I disagree. Yes it's not my business if they use drugs. However to know if a provider uses them can be very helpful when deciding to see them or not. A provider hooked on heavy stuff may be more closely watch by our favorite uncle or be more prone to crime, more risk of being desperate and ripping me off, be involve with pimps that provide them with their addiction. As well as the fact that sometimes needles are used for their fun, and using needles can spread diseases. Also I don't want some provider overdosing right before or right after I dream them, because my uncle might really want to see if that happens. Also I wished there was it was allowed to share information of people staying or recently stayed at our uncle LEO house. That would be helpful when deciding who to see. Unfortunately that is not allowed.

Just my opinion. Since I only like to dream of reliable disease and drug free providers.Not all mongers agree with your stance on this but for those that do, you want this info I would guess. If a monger doesn't care about drug use that is fine. However drug use especially H can be hidden very well. A user will look you right in the eye and lie about this. They have grown accustomed in this life to hiding this from everyone let alone a guy that is seeing them for their fix money knowing that he may leave if he knows. In this specific situation, the issue of LEO showing up is a distinct possibility. Mandy does have an outstanding warrant (not hobby issues). The hotels she stays at know who she is and she has been escorted out by LEO before at the request of the hotel. I doubt any monger wants to be paying a visit and have LEO show up while you are there. (Yes I know the probability of you being there at that exact time is low).


All I can say is administration on this board felt the same way I do that's why she isn't on here anymore to much block monitoring. This is all I'm saying on this matter anymore bash me all you want. Sounds like some have never seen a girl that has never used wow I'm curious how did you do that.She got booted for posting a warning to members to not contact because she was in custody of uncle at that time and she did not go on some witch hunt to get this info. A senior member contacted her and I and gave this info to us to post a warning. She got to the warning before me and got booted. If I would have got to it first, it would have been me getting the infraction or booted.

Indy Guy
PS- I know the above grammar sucks but was just wanting to say what I got w/o worrying with the most boring subject in school.

Almost forgot one thing. If you are going to tell people you are DDF don't be fucking STUPID enough to post an ad picture with your rig laying on the bed next to you!

ThatChick85
06-05-17, 14:12
Yes! I thought your way of thinking was kind of common Sense but I see not all people think that way. And yes. We are talking about needle users here. That brings on a whole other list of problems. Which southbend listed. I mean if someone nodding out and passing out on you is your kind of thing, then go for it!! And twotoke. I'm perfectly fine with everything I have and own. I love my home and actually put my money towards bettering myself and not DRUGS. Just know some of your fav providers are nothing but junkies feeding their habit.


I disagree. Yes it's not my business if they use drugs. However to know if a provider uses them can be very helpful when deciding to see them or not. A provider hooked on heavy stuff may be more closely watch by our favorite uncle or be more prone to crime, more risk of being desperate and ripping me off, be involve with pimps that provide them with their addiction. As well as the fact that sometimes needles are used for their fun, and using needles can spread diseases. Also I don't want some provider overdosing right before or right after I dream them, because my uncle might really want to see if that happens. Also I wished there was it was allowed to share information of people staying or recently stayed at our uncle LEO house. That would be helpful when deciding who to see. Unfortunately that is not allowed.

Just my opinion. Since I only like to dream of reliable disease and drug free providers.