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Intelius
04-21-02, 01:15
Paterson seems more open than most locales, although quality remains poor. Had been patonizing Sue, very sweet white girl a few fries short of a happy meal. She appears to have skipped town. Too bad, since what remains is very slim pickings, indeed.
I'd had luck with a Nicole, but no longer since her hygiene is lacking. How is the Marcet, is it worth checking out?

buttsniffer
04-21-02, 15:39
Ain't ever seen anything close to lookin good walkin around in Paterson. But i hit Marcet here and there. There's talk about it in the old forum. Girls range from 2-7 (with very few 7's). You can get a nice handful for a buck on the stage. Last time i was there, was propositioned for a get together after shift with a blonde argentinian with a wicked full booty. I declined. If you use your verbal skills to inquire, i'm sure u'll get whatever u look for.

Intelius
05-06-02, 22:34
Buttsniffer
I swung by Marcet a few times. I had serious doubts about finding my car when I returned. What can you counsel about this?
Maybe I should hop cab from Elmwood Pk? Nah!

Intelius
05-09-02, 22:10
Nicole is a slim black woman early 30s 5'5" well spoken. A 5 at best pleasant personality.

Aven
05-11-02, 01:55
Everyone should go atleast once once to Marcet Cafe. I mean it's a cool place to chill out. The girls are friendly and dollar goes a really long way, if ya know what I mean.

buttsniffer
05-11-02, 10:28
Haven't been to Marcet in like a month. Been mad busy lately and it's like a 35 min drive for me. But am working on making sometime to hit the joint soon. The place is a good place to chill and to get a nice handful for a buck. Boriq, I never had a problem with my car there. The area is mostly residential and there a lot of cars parked around there.

Let me inquire about a place called Showplace in Dover. Any fellow ho-masters been there? I heard the place can get raunchy for a $10 private dance. It's just too far a drive for me to just check it out. Somebody post a review please.

CoolGuy
05-11-02, 14:44
Where exactly is the street action in Plainfield, Elizabeth and New Brunswick and surrounding towns? What kind of providers should I expect and how much do they want and is reasonable? Thank you for the responses...

roberto
05-14-02, 11:37
I'd like to swing by the Marcet Cafe, but can't find an address.
Can someone advise where it is?

Big Hoss
05-14-02, 17:22
ROBERTO -

The MarCet Cafe is at 1011 Market Street on the corner of E39 Street. The best way to get to it (since that part of Market is a 1 way) is from Rt. 20 South, follow the signs for Market Street / Route 80 West. The exit splits and Market is to your right. The Cafe is about 200 yards down the road on your right. Happy Hunting.

PS I was there last night and there was this older (30-35) blond Brazilian chick there who was just off the hook! I think she's going to be at 5th Ave tonight.

Intelius
05-14-02, 23:16
Went to Marcet, very cool. The girls at best 4's but very friendly. Hate to admit I got chumped by "Champagne", big Bootied black girl. She played me like a violin. Live and Learn, all in all, I'll return with more time to enjoy the show.

Gypsy
05-15-02, 11:16
Street action in:
Elizabeth, on 1&9 starting at North Ave south of the airport all the way south till the old Bayway Circle, daytime and nights.
Plainfield, on and around Front St. starting at the Dunnelen line.
Please post anything you see

CoolGuy
05-15-02, 15:32
I have been making almost daily trips to Plainfield for the last 5-6 days and I have seen absolutely nothing there. I have gone there during lunch time, then between 4 to 6 and also 8 to 10. The area gets scary later at night.

I will go to Elizabeth soon and report. It is lot further away from where I live. Many years ago, I used to find reasonably good pickings in Elizabeth behind train station and also on Broad and Pennsylvania streets.

69Dawg
06-01-02, 02:00
Has anyone ever been to some place in Fairview, NJ called the Ritz massage? I am traveling in from the left coast and was wondering if anyone has the inside scoop.
http://www.ritzmassage.com/

buttsniffer
06-14-02, 09:57
Last night at the Marcet Cafe:

I was about to give report with all the juicy details, but thought better of it. This has now become my favorite hangout, and would hate to bring it any risk. But just say that i had myself an awesome (i mean awesome) duet with two juicy dominicanas in the bar corner.

Just go in with a good attitude. Be nice with the tipping and you will be treated like royalty.

Heard of a place called Mickey Dee's on Belmont Av where extras are available. But drove by there at around 5pm, scoped the hood, and thought better of parking there. Anybody experience it?

Intelius
06-17-02, 22:00
Hey Butt Marcet is hot, I keep hearing of other places in Paterson.
What about 5th Av? I think I'll hit Marcet again early on Thursday.

adog
06-18-02, 18:28
Anyone know the closing time at the marcet. I would like to check it out. Is it near the moonlight and li via en rosa on market street. What nationality are most of the girls? Thanks

StealthMode
09-30-02, 00:19
Hooked up w/ Sonya. I've been out w/ her before. I stopped for awhile because one time she was sleepy and another time she had a tude. She was out all morning and in the evening on 9/28. Alot of pickups.

Anyways, I hadn't picked up in awhile and don't see alot of my regs. One thing I hate about new girls is I don't feel comfy that they aren't sting.

Anyway...Sonya was wearing a black dress. She has gotten a little chunkier since I last saw. Not bad tho. Wouldn't you know it...she has a loaf in the oven. Made some of the usual gyrations a little interesting for her, poor girl. Titties were looking real fine tho. :-)

She gives one helluva bbbj let me tell you, that much hasn't changed. She was real talkative. Asking what I liked what I've tried. Said she does know if a real cheap place for us, $15 or 2 hours for $50. She said, "You know all that we can do in two hours?" Talked about how a woman should make all of her holes available. I told her I've never done anal and she was like...oh I got to show that to you some time.

Got a question for you all. Especially late Friday and Saturday nite/mornings there are some girls that are REAL slutty looking. I've been trying to figure out if they are TV's or LE. One night when I was cruising but didn't pick up a while ago, two where on the corner. One of them I had seen had guys get busted while LE was talking to her 2-3 times so I wondered. Either way, these two girls are on a corner I come to a stop and they start yelling things to me. I rolled down the window and said What? Next thing I know, LE is blocking me off w/ lights flashing. He puts the girls into the back of the cruiser and then He asked me WTF I was doing, just told him that I was getting something to eat, which wasn't a lie, I was done cruising anyways. He asked me if I knew what those two were. I said I don't know, he said what do you mean you don't know. I said...I dunno..hookers? He asked me what I was doing talking to them I said they yelled something to me and I rolled down to window and said what and rolled it back up. So I dont' know if they were decoys and they didn't do anything to me because I didn't do anything wrong or what. What's your guys impression.

SM

Dr Torpedo
09-30-02, 01:23
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OneEye
09-30-02, 19:44
Hey Stealthmode...not all of us know where the hell your talkin about, How about givin us some friggin idea where spottin these ho ho's. Paterson is a BIG town.

StealthMode
09-30-02, 20:28
Just call me a dumb ass for leaving that out !

The two busiest spots where Market a few blocks down from Marcet. Pretty much from 1 block beyond the Mc Ds to the BP and along those side streets on the opposite side of the street.

Then on the side streets down by the park by the school by the Shell station including the shell station. They go in there for smokes, drinks and snacks. Problem is so does LE. That is where I saw what I wasn't sure if they were TV's or not.

Sorry I don't know alot of street names down there.

Any other questions, fire away.

SM

OneEye
09-30-02, 21:17
OK well thats a start. I will have to take a drive soon to see whats going on. But you say they have alot of undercover ho"s ? If so how do they dress as compared to the real one's? do they where alot of real flashy clothing?

OneEye
09-30-02, 23:56
Sounds Real Interesting, Certinally not beyond LE to hire those guys for thier trucks to do a sting. Just seems a bit strange, I mean the town and that aera has been such a ..well ...Rundown lets say. That LE knows enough to leave alone. If the LE in that town are making so many "Quality of Life" busts, then it must be political motivation. No way in hell do the cops want to take away the simple pleasures of a community which is lacking so much to begin with. To think they will effect any real change is just idiotic.

By the way i was at the Cabaret club, just off market st, and had a real Nice time, Very Fullfilling lets just say. Alot of Chunky girls, but some cute one's too. and you bettter have a bankroll of $1.00's on hand, cause its like jumping into a shark tank. same with the other joint around the corner on market, the moonlight, Shark attack. but i did have a better time in cabaret. And Damn..whats the deal in that park just down the street from cabaret? i saw a bunch of what looks like dealsers hangin down there. Am i wrong? Wasnt sure if i could find a SW down there or what. Almost stopped to check it out, but my real brains kicked in, so i kept going. anyone know whats going on there late at night?

Aye-Spy!
11-20-02, 08:27
http://www.denvergov.org/johnstv/


John's Denver: New 'John's TV' shows photos of prostitution customers
News-Journal wire services

DENVER -- There are 11 men who probably never wanted to get their 15 minutes of fame this way. They were the first guests on "John's TV."

The program premiered on the city's cable access channel Thursday. It included a slide show of men convicted of soliciting prostitution with their names shown below their photos. The images are also displayed on the city's Web site.

A Denver cop standing by his cruiser warns rather ominously that anyone hiring a hooker may be arrested.

The idea for using publicity as a deterrent started with the publication of photos in newspapers. Several other cities have already started TV shows: "BUSTED" in Orlando, Fla.; "Shame TV" in Charlotte, N.C.; and in Calgary, Alberta, the "Calgary Ho Down."

"I see it as a deterrent. We know we are not going to stop the problem. There is a reason why they call it the oldest profession in the world," said Pamela Corvelli, a neighborhood activist who has campaigned for a crackdown on prostitution.

She lives half a block from East Colfax Avenue, a busy street named after the late Vice President Schuyler Colfax that is a favorite of prostitutes, pimps and drug dealers.

Corvelli said she is not opposed to prostitution if it is confined to traveling businessmen calling an escort service from a hotel room.

"We don't want them coming onto our front porch or into our back yards. I cannot even go to the store without being propositioned. One pimp asked me if I was working for anybody because I could make a lot of money for him," she said.

Andrew Hudson, spokesman for Mayor Wellington Webb, said: "When we heard the horror stories from the community -- finding condoms in back yards, sex in the alleys, children seeing people having sex in cars, we knew we had to do something."

Hudson said putting more police in the area wasn't doing the job. "We decided we need to do something unconventional. We think this is a deterrent that will work. People won't want their wives, colleagues, bosses and members of their churches to see them on this show."

He said the city decided not to show the photos of the prostitutes because their situation is already desperate enough, and "we don't want to advertise.

"Prostitution is not the glamorous, Julia Roberts kind of picture people think it is," he said.

-- --

On the Net:

http://www.denvergov.org/johnstv/

OneEye
12-15-02, 16:49
What went Down in Paterson Last night?
Saterday night-Sunday morning actually at about 1:30 am.
BIG Police raid Martket street aera righ off of main st.
where all the go-go bars are. Moonlight, Rivera's caberat etc.
I was just getting out when i see tons of cops, Cars were being towed away. I saw Cops pulling people off the street and putting them in the Sherif's dept Paddy waggon. It looked like all the cop cars said "Sherrifs Dept" on them. I didnt want to hang around, trying to get out was tough. the had blocked market street off so you couldnt go straight through, was forced to make a right down ciancie st, then i make a left to go around and cops have traffic stopped there too. They were all over the friggin place.
after a while they turned off the rollers, and let the traffic go again.
They had that section of market compleatly blocked off though. between cianci and the next block down.
Wasnt stopped or questioned by any of them. really pretty wierd.
my way out on 80 i looked across the way and could see cops haqd also lined up and doing the same at the first enterance of market st. where the Marcet cafe is. I didnt want to turn around to find out for sure though.
Anyone else there? anyone know what this was all about?

Aye-Spy!
12-17-02, 03:31
Originally posted by DeeUncola
Went circling in Paterson tonite with NO intention of picking up but was noticed
by police.

Can they arrest you for circling if no
other communication is done?

Any lawyer here?

Hey DeeUncola,
What's up man! You're encroaching on my territory!
No trespassing, man! Just kidding! Yeah, I've stayed out of Paterson for about a month after
a scary experience with the LE.

They didn't arrest or even stop me. I saw some good providers (chicas) on market st so I did a loop and then next thing I know, this car was right at my tail. No flashing lights but he kept following till I run out of the area.

I haven't been back since then. I think the white gal you're talking about is Regina. I fucked her a few times and I really enjoyed it because she was new and very clean, no needle marks (I inspect everywhere in the back of the car) and she was keen to do anal as well for a total o f$50. I do miss her! I picked her up on Broadway...near the gas station.

LE will not pull you over for "looking" but they might just pull you over and check your registration, tail light...just anything to make you shit in your pants so beware.

hit me at

aye_spy@fastmail.com

when you find some good providers in paterson. BTW, stay out of van houten st, its full of skanks!

OneEye
12-17-02, 22:44
DeeUncola, Sounds like you were a day early for my party.
Man oh Man that crap made me shit in my pants. If anyone if from patterson and has a local newspaper please check it out . Id love to see what thier police report reads of that night.

Anytime ive ever just driven around market i always see cops out like crazy too. Probably worth it to just park the car someplace and try hoofin it for any SW's. Of course you also gotta be carefull of where you park. bound to get some street freak beggin you for money when you go back to your car. Sayin shit that they were watchin your car for ya. What a town.

AsianLvr
12-28-02, 14:19
Anyone have any info on a place called Mickey Dee's on Belmont Ave.? It looks like a sh*t hole in a crap part of town but I keep hearing some good stuff about the place from my associates.

Rock On, Rock Hard!
K-

Buffalo Bill
12-30-02, 20:48
Micky Dee's has no reason to exist. Surprised to hear its still in operation. It's a lot like Marcet, except much lower class and without the benefit of an occasional attractive dancer,

Buffalo Bill
01-04-03, 10:06
Has OneEye ever given anything but a negative report ?
He is to be ignored.

dirtmonger
01-16-03, 14:58
Has anyone seen a sw named Francis, she was a tall gorgous (was going downhill quick) brunette who gave the absolute best BBBJ.

Buffalo Bill
01-31-03, 11:27
Got to enjoy the pleasures of Slappy's and Mercet last evening. Slappy's was remarkably tame this time although its always a good spot to checked.
The dancers at Marcet were substantially improved with several attractive Brazilian beauties, one of whom accompanied me home for the night. I find it rare to have such ease acquiring the services of a Brazilian but it happened, usually the Dominican ladies go in for this sort of activity more readily.
My tip for Marcet - remember its your money, you don't have to give it to every gal who shoves her tit in your face !

John Y. Doe
01-31-03, 17:54
City Streets:

(I've been reading the guide for a long time & thought it was time to contribute.)

1) The city's law enforcement is doing a lot to clamp down on the drug trade. Since the women are closely linked, use extreme caution if you do visit the city. Be particularly careful on Tuesday's and Thursday's; the days when many of the sweeps are conducted. Your car will draw some nice revenue for the city if it is sold at auction.

2) Since you will of course want to avoid any street action, it's best to stay away from such streets. The streets with the most action (therefore, the ones to avoid) are located along:
a) Market Street between Rte 80 to Madison Ave. (Also concentrated at the industrial area on the couple of blocks to the right of the McDonalds -- that is if you are coming from Rt 80.)
b) Going along Market St from Rte 80, turn right on Madison. Women walk along Madison, between Market & MLK. They often stand on Madison & Park next to the diner.
c) A few blocks along Park, to the right and left of Madison. (To the right they go no further than the RR tracks.) Turning left on Madison onto Park they are there up to 18th Ave. They turn right onto 18th. There is often activity along 18th from Park Ave to MLK (aka Broadway).
d) Rosa Parks has for the most part been cleaned up. However, late at night there is sometimes a woman there. We would rate most of the women there as 1's & 2's. The ones in the area that look a lot better are either law enforcement agents or transvestites. (On rare occassions there are also transvestites on Market near the Alabama Projects at Rte 80.
e) Along Broadway (MLK) from Madison to the BP station.
f) Other places with rare sightings have been i) around the hospital; ii) along 16th &/or Ellison between Madison & Straight St.; & iii) near Lou Costello Park. The park is off Cianci near the Market St go-go bars. The park was cleaned up a long time ago by the police. If you don't want to get arrested, it would be the worst place in town to approach a woman.

3) The times when the most attractive women are out are 6-9am and 4-10pm weekdays. Weekend days are also a good time to get arrested, since the police do respond to complaints by local residents.

(The info above is for those who are going to Paterson, perhaps to the bars. I believe the streets are far risker than years ago. If you are a white guy you will stick out like a sore thumb in most of the areas, particularly late at night. My preference is the AMP's. I am not yet doing posts on the AMP's because whatever I know now has already been posted here by others.)

John Y. Doe
01-31-03, 18:06
Originally posted by stealthmode
Thursday before the ice hit, met Shelly. Saw her on Market, went to the Airport hotel, said she'd do whatever for .3 .

Skinny, bout a 5, natural blonde. She said that she can be found mostly around St joes and on Railway Aves

Happy Hunting.
sm

Two help avoid confusion, there is a white girl with a similiar name (Sheri) in town. She's white, mid-20's, 5'5" and 140lbs with 36C's. She has a cute face, but her body is starting to show a little wear & tear. She has brown, shoulder-length hair with reddish blonde highlights.
Her attitude is very nice, cooperative, and unhurried. She is also very quiet. She's ususally out during the day. She has accepted $.3 to $.4 for BBBJTC; $.6 for 1/2 & 1/2; and $.9 for a Greek lesson. (Keep in mind she is unhurried.) She has thrown in DATY and rimming for nothing.

dirtmonger
02-25-03, 20:30
Went up Broadway on Friday, after big storm, girls all over the place as they haven't been able to walk outside due to roads being covered and shitty plowing in Paterson.

Drove past the Rainbow at 1:00 pm and saw about 6 cop cars and the police investigation van. I got nervous about what could of possibly happend to any sw's and decided to bolt. I just don't like cops.

Came back on Monday and again lots of the same faces walking around, drove up Broadway and met Etna. A bleached blond spanish girl, problaly 30, 5-3, 120 lbs. really cute, not into drugs , I don't think.(after naked, looked good, clean, no marks, not worried about picking up stuff, picked her up 3 months ago and she picked up food for kid as I drove her home after session)

Went to hotel and for an hour and had great session, girl is cute, good complexion wiht real nice skin, (small tits), put still a little pert. She gives awesome bbbj and is eager to start work as soon as the little monger left my underwear.

She was in no rush and whenever I told to slow it down, she would for a while.

Overall an awesome bbj and would reccomend.

She said she can be found typiccaly in daylight hours around broadway.

Good luck.

Phil Sukalewski
03-13-03, 00:15
Full Service AMPS are few and far between in NNJ, but I have been lucky to experience a few once you can have the house believe you're not LE.

Went to place in Little Falls last week and once I gained the girls trust it was cool. Laid out $100 on the table after a quick shower.
Proceeded with brief massage and then 69/DATY/CBJ to completion. Nice.

Rebrobate218
04-10-03, 20:54
I have heard about a go-go bar in Paterson called Mickey D's. I just want to know how the girls look? I used to frequent The Moonlight and thought the girls were not the most attractive in the world, but you could have a good time....and a lot of them would go home with you or meet you for a personal party. I've heard that the dancers at Mickey D's look far worse the Moonlight. Does anyone know if this is true?

AsianLvr
04-12-03, 19:21
Originally posted by Rebrobate218
I have heard about a go-go bar in Paterson called Mickey D's. I just want to know how the girls look? I used to frequent The Moonlight and thought the girls were not the most attractive in the world, but you could have a good time....and a lot of them would go home with you or meet you for a personal party. I've heard that the dancers at Mickey D's look far worse the Moonlight. Does anyone know if this is true? Safe to say, for the most part, it's true. There is the occasional
"Diamond in the rough" namely Michelle (French) and Michelle
(Brazilian). They are worth every $ if ya know what I mean.

Peace,

K-

Rebrobate218
04-21-03, 22:04
AsainLvr,

I did make it to the bar last week. I will tell you they had one acceptable Brazilian. She was not a beauty queen but had a good body with nice fake tits. There were a number of dancers who should retire the g-string like Jordan should retire his number. Others were no prize but you had some that would be ok after the proper number of jagermiesters. All in all a fun sleazy place. Just don't hang out there too late at night.

Mr. Joyboy
04-23-03, 09:03
Originally posted by DeeUncola
Trying to get an objective list
of sleaze bars in Paterson, Irvington and Newark

I tried to get a good thread rockin'
at another board but was banned
even though this time, I did not
even break their rules.DeeUncola,

Good to see you over on this board. That other board has become a real pain in ass with all the rules he has. I think it's a good idea to try to get this board going. Unfortunately I don't have anything to add at the moment because I haven't been to a NJ strip joint in a long time. I just moved back to NJ from NY so hopefully I can report on some places shortly. In the meantime keep the info coming.

Buffalo Bill
04-23-03, 21:05
Originally posted by DeeUncola
[i]Paterson Bar Blow out

Trying to get an objective list of sleaze bars in Paterson, Irvington and Newark

I tried to get a good thread rockin' at another board but was banned even though this time, I did not even break their rules.

There is no such thing as an objective list, especially yours. I have been to most of the bars you listed more recently than have you and I totally disagree with your ratings. I even visited two this evening which you should try - Slappy's and High Beams. Let's just say that we have different tastes.

Your post appears to be an incoherant raving at some apparent injustice done to you elsewhere. Don't bring it here.

Stale and hearsay reports are useless.

Didn't you once say that there were sleeze bars in Clifton ?

Buffalo Bill
04-23-03, 21:10
Oh yea DeeUnCola,
Why the coyness about naming Micky D's especially since it had been the topic of the three posts prior to your rantings ?

Buffalo Bill
04-25-03, 00:20
Good to see Deuncola finally learned to reread his post prior to hitting the submit button.
Why are you sending me a map? Don't you understand that I know the area much better that you. In fact I knew the Hitchin' Post when it was the Chuck Wagon before it became the Wagon Wheel. It was never in Clifton. Your excuse is a very poor fabrication. Why don't you cite Temptations in Passaic which is much closer to Clifton than the Hitch.
You seem impressed by the fact that you visited three establishments this weekend. I'm less impressed since I know that they are a couple of feet from each other. By the by, I visited two yesterday and three more today. I won't mention the names but each name contained one or more vowels.
The places which rank on your scale are mostly happy burial grounds for aged go-go dancers. If that's your thing, hey, go for it.
Let's hear from our viewing audience if they prefer sleeze or beauty. Perhaps someone might tell us where to find both.

Mr. Joyboy
04-25-03, 12:12
Originally posted by Buffalo Bill
Let's hear from our viewing audience if they prefer sleeze or beauty. Perhaps someone might tell us where to find both. I prefer a combination of both.

Let me begin by saying I am not a big fan of large fancy clubs where everything is expensive and the majority of the girls are beautiful but also plastic and untouchable. I am also not a big fan of extremely low end places that have girls that will do anything for money but are not what I would consider even remotely attractive.

For me the best place lies somewhere in between. A place where the girls are at least sexy and alluring and will allow a good amount of roaming during a dance or on stage. I have no problem spending $20 on a dance if I get to roam freely and the girl makes the dance worth while by giving it her all. By roaming freely I mean being able to touch and kiss her all over her body. Finger insertion, DATY and me cuming in my pants (too messy) are not important to me. If the girl wants to negotiate for other services (HJ, BBBJ, meeting later on, etc. ) I will gladly discuss.

Two places that come to mind that meet my personal criteria are not in NJ but I'll mention them here anyway as examples. One is Circles in Queens and the other is the Blue Moon in New Paltz, NY. Both feature full contact lap dances, topless at Circles and nude at the Blue Moon. The girls are not drop dead gorgeous but they are sexy, desirable and friendly and they give great dances. Some of them are also up for additional services depending on the girl and/or situation.

Hopefully I'll be able to find places like this in NJ now that I've moved here. If anyone has any suggestions on places to go please let me know. Otherwise I will continue to visit the places I've mentioned and anyone else should try them as well if they have the same tastes that I do.

AsianLvr
04-26-03, 07:43
I would have to agree with Mr. Joyboy. I prefer some combination of sleaze and beauty but, in most cases, sleaze tends to dominate. Usually, my only goal is to have a woman release the tension at a fair price.

Rock on, Rock hard.

K-

Buffalo Bill
04-26-03, 14:02
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mr. Joyboy
[i]I prefer a combination of both.
Let me begin by saying I am not a big fan of large fancy clubs where everything is expensive and the majority of the girls are beautiful but also plastic and untouchable.



Let met state that I totally agree with the above !

I hope that I had not said anything that would suggest I favored expensive or plastic or untouchable. If I did it was my error. Hell, I'm about as cheap as anyone can get, and I detest implants. I think you are introducing new elements into this discussion, and by so doing you have solidified my initial point that an 'objective' analysis is impossible. There are too many factors involved for anyone to pretend to be 'objective'.


The choice is BEAUTY vs. SLEEZE !
The secondary discussion is knowledge of the definition of 'objective'.

Since you asked for suggestions, and being much more knowledgeable of Paterson than those of you who post stale hearsay, I will offer, and ask that you give us your SUBJECTIVE opinion of:
1) Peek-a-Boos Getty Ave. ZERO - NADA - NO SLEEZE ! Just beautiful, vibrant, young women. I suspect that you will WANT to tip the dancers.
2) High Beams also Getty Ave. About as middle of the range as I know of. The dancers will usually hustle you for tips. (Also its only half a block from Peek-a-boo so you'll be able to tell your dog that you were to two places in one weekend.)
3) Micky D's The favorite of Der SleazMister. You'll tip them if they just go away.

Bear in mind that one visit can never prove conclusive, but these might define what is available. If your tastes tend around either 1) or 2), I'll give additional suggestions.

Buffalo Bill
04-26-03, 16:13
Originally posted by AsianLvr
I would have to agree with Mr. Joyboy. I prefer some combination of sleaze and beauty but, in most cases, sleaze tends to dominate. Usually, my only goal is to have a woman release the tension at a fair price.

Rock on, Rock hard.

K-

No arguement ! But since most everyone has a different concept of "fair price", any analysis will, by definition, be subjective.

Buffalo Bill
04-26-03, 22:27
Originally posted by DeeUncola
Yeah Let the crew at WSG decide.

Have seen blonde hookers there. Have also seen cops pulling over cars with women in them.



I taw I taw a puddy cu*t. I taw I taw a puddy cu*t. I did taw a puddy cu*t !!!!!!!! Sufferin' succotash !

Buffalo Bill
04-29-03, 20:43
Originally posted by DeeUncola
You suspect wrongly!

Not enough bang for the bucks?! Thanks for warning me. I was considering going there until you warned me off.

The word is SleazeMiester.

At Mickey D's. Michelle, the French girl is very good looking. Most are 3s. Have seen a few good ones, though. More bang for the buck.

Marcet sometimes has babes who will arrange for outside work. THe sleaze inside can go to a 6.


1) You picked, for your own amusement, my comments which were addressed to Mr. Joyboy's request for suggestions. You could have offered your own suggestions but chose instead to continue promulgating you extremely subjective and negative viewpoints. You make negative comments on places where you have never been.
2) The three establishments were offered to indicate the range of what might be available in Paterson strip bars. I care not to please your taste, or lack thereof, but rather that of Mr. Joyboy who stated he was new to the area. I offered him a choice, albeit with my subjective assessments. Unlike you I do not attempt to impose my judgement on others.
3) Why do you stray off the topic to bring up Marcet ? Do you have some disorder which prevents you from staying on topic ? Have you actually had an outside session with any lady from Marcet or is this just more hearsay ? (This hearsay is accurate since it was I who posted a few of my encounters.)

This is my last response to Deeuncola's ravings since I do not chose to abase myself in association with him. I'm sure he will have more words, which I will ignore.

Mr. Joyboy, if you're out there, let us know what you think of my suggestions.

Wooly
05-09-03, 18:32
Long time lurker, finally have something to post.

I tried the area strip joints last night following instructions found here.

Marsets had nothing going inside. Got offers for after hours or phone# form rather attractive Dominicans. Too much $$
Zipped down Market st checked La Vie en Rose, Moonlight and Baby doll. Ugh ! Nothing that I wanted to touch any part of me.

Finally found Slappy. Great activity in lp dance area. Very pretty Dominican - had choice of a few - who spoke French perfectly.

Thanks to all.

Buffalo Bill
05-10-03, 12:24
"PATERSON - Two female detectives with the Passaic County Sheriff's Department posed as prostitutes and arrested 12 men for soliciting Wednesday night and Thursday morning.

The men were from Garfield, Bloomingdale, Teaneck, West Milford, Elmwood Park, New York, Clifton, and Paterson, said sheriff's spokesman Bill Maer. They were all apprehended in the area of East 34th and Market streets.

The arrests were part of Sheriff Jerry Speziale's "Operation the Price Is Right," which is a crackdown on street prostitution. The Paterson Police Department helped with the operation, Maer said.

Two men were charged with public drinking, and one was charged with possession of crack, Maer said.

All the men were taken to the sheriff's Wayne headquarters on Hamburg Turnpike for processing and ordered to show up in Paterson Municipal Court 9 a.m. Friday"


Let's be careful out there gentlemen !

Wooly
05-10-03, 13:02
Thanks Bill,

That explains why I saw nothing as I drove past there Thur. night. Your posts are valuable. You first mentioned Slappy's.

That other guy is directing us right into the stings.

Wooly
05-20-03, 22:20
Originally posted by DeeUncola
.

The Marcet Cafe poses absolutely no problem if you are a lone white guy. They are used to us coming in. And the Marcet Cafe is only a few blocks up Market St. from where the strolls begin. So girls do walk in BUT ALAS usually for drugs not sex. Be careful. peoples.
Over the past 10 days, I've stopped in Marcet four times, hoping to get comfortable with a few of the dancers. It's a hard job holding on to my money in there, but I don't leave any on the bar in front of me. I don't tip the old fat ones. Never seen any girls walk in and just loiter although some tip dancers will walk in trying to get a gig. (All dancers at Marcet work for tips only.)

Never saw any SWs outside, only that nice gentleman who watches my car. When did you see SWs walk in ?

Wooly
05-23-03, 17:22
Dropped in at Marcet last night. I've now been there five times in the last two weeks. Only the fat uglies this time. One beer and out. Did not notice any drug dealing or streetwalkers.

Explored a few other bars. Found some attractive dancers at those two bars on Getty, near Madison. Seem that there was action to be had in the upstairs lap dance area at one. I passed. The really beautiful gals were at the other place, which does not have lap dance.

StealthMode
05-27-03, 00:55
The stroll between Madison and the Car Wash was active Friday morning. At least 7 or 8 at work.

Got burned. After cruising and finally deciding to give one girl a try, Felicia gets in the car. Wants to go to a hotel. I'm game...ask her which one and she just gives me a right here and a left there. Takes me to the motel next to the bowling alley on 46 by the Parkway. On the way there she asks me how much I'm looking to spend. I ask her how much she is looking for. No answer. She asks me again how much I'm looking to spend. I reply .5 or .6, what will that get me. No reply. I ask her if she knows how much the room is here, she doesn't. I had to get money from the atm. On the way to the atm same BS about the money. She won't say anything.

I decide enough bs is enough and driver her back. Now she decides that she nees lunch for her time. No prob, I offer to go to a place and buy lunch, she wants cash. Won't get out of the car. Finally I go get cash.

Felecia is about 5 7. Space between the two front teeth (I know that really narrows it down in Pat) black thin. She did have a very cute smile. Avoid like the plague !

oh well, took a small hit for the team. LOL.

Anyways I dont' know if it was the time of day or if the stroll lightened up post crack down.

SM

OneEye
05-27-03, 17:39
Stelthmode: Sounds you like you really got taken for a Ride in more ways than one. Maybee my perspective is off, but that hotel by the bowling alley seems like a hell of a drive from where you picked this ***** up.

Damn man should have said ok ill take you out to dinner to some real fancy resturaunt, and stiff her for the bill. Amazing these ho's start gettin picky after spending 10 minuets with you in the car, somthing told her maybee you werent richard gere, and her spidey sences went a tingeling. Damn, these broads dont seem to know what it is they do for a living. supposed to make a man feel like a man.?.? ...hell no.!

I think you should stay away from the SW's there. Too many friggin LE's around anyway's. Any thoughts on maybee hangin around the bowling alley? mabee some providers are in there. Seeing as to how its so close to the motel. Must be some reason that she brought you to that place. Just a thought. Never been myself. if you do let us know what happens.

Peace.

Wooly
05-29-03, 00:04
Originally posted by DeeUncola
Which was the action place? High Beams or Peek A Boos? I have been to neither but may reconsider if reasonably priced action is available at one. Send me to the place where rules are bent.
Hi Beams is the one with lap dances, I actually prefer the beautiful Brazilian ladies at the other. I did not go upstairs but reported based on my conversation with what appeared to be a satisfied patron who had just come downstairs. Therefore this is second hand info. The dance is $20, don't know what tip is required.

I prefer to report what I actually know and places that I have actually been. For first hand info you my wish to check my post of a few weeks back at Slappy's.

To anyone looking to follow up on Stelthmobile's mention of the bowling alley -- be very careful. I beleive it's in Elmwood Park and that means BERGEN COUNTY. Your chances of being found are much greater than your chances of finding someone.

Buffalo Bill
05-31-03, 17:29
Wooly, Great report ! It's good to see someone who reports facts and labels hearsay and opinions as such.
Have you ever been to Micky'sDee. I would like an opinion from anyone who reports facts. I'm not recommending the place. It may be the least safe area in Paterson.

Rebrobate218
05-31-03, 21:39
Bill,

I have been to Mickey's D's. I will tell you that the bar is quite simply a dive, but it can be fun. You had very few local hanging out there and a few guys that clearly did not live in Paterson drinking at the bar. The bartender had a huge rack and was a lot of fun. The dancers were not OK. One fat girl with a huge rack, one Brazilian who had a great body but a bad face, and a few that should retire at once. The N'hood is the worst in Paterson. And the bar folk are suspect of new people hoping they are not ABC. Towne Tap action can be had in the lapdance room. To make a long story short. I now live in New England and will be coming back to and will be coming back to NJ for the 4th of July. Mickey's will be a place to visit. They may have put the E in sleazy, but it can be fun.

Buffalo Bill
05-31-03, 23:07
Thanks Repro,
Micky D's sounds just as I remembered from my visit about a year ago. If you enjoy it, that's great, but it does not make me want to try it again. There are too many other places which I know I'll enjoy. Marcet, Slappy's, Peek-a-Boo, with the beautiful ladies, Diva's in Haldeon and Twins in S. Hackensack (which no one can find). I won't mention the several which I like in Newark.

LeroyLaCroy
06-01-03, 01:08
Will be in the Parsippany and East Hanover areas this week visiting. Any ideas for fun palces to go for some rub and fun or gals to invite in for some intimate dining?

Rebrobate218
06-01-03, 14:13
Bill,

I like the old Towne Tap action. Little negotiation and right down to business at a reasonable price. Mickey D's will offer this. You just have to weed through the ugly and old dancers for the diomond in the rough.......which in most cases is a lump of coal. The only other place I know of is Vic's in Irvington...with the same problems as MDs. So can you help?? To my memory of Jersey...when I lived there....Marcet is hit or miss. Sometimes it has good looking dancer and sometime they have dogs. Also, many times extras and many times not. I've never been to slappy' or Peek-a-Boo but please let me know if Towne Tap action can be had any of theses places. Also, whats hot in Newark. George and I used to be great when George owned the place...its been dead after he sold it....so where is the action at. I'll take an ugly girl for a more favorable price....but I'm looking to upgrade now.

Buffalo Bill
06-02-03, 12:02
Originally posted by DeeUncola
Do you mean:

Twins Plus Lounge 2 South Main Street, South Hackensack, NJ 07606 (973) 473-1720

These are the map / driving directions, if I am right. Never been there. Got to try it. Maybe this weekend.

.

No, you are not right (as usual). Unless you call for directions, you'll NEVER find it.
Using that map, your chances of finding Jimmy Hoffa are better than finding Twins.
Give yourself at least two or three hours to look for it.

There are other sites for rating strip bars. This site is for finding women and getting laid. Let's stick to that.

Buffalo Bill
06-02-03, 18:59
Originally posted by DeeUncola
One bartender was chunky but with a nice rack.
The following bartender was short, blonde and muscular.

Seems a little mixed up. Sonia is short, blond, slightly stocky, with substantial hooters. She is a former dancer and had been known to be available for take out.



. Another was a tattooed young lady

She's back !! Tall, very skinny, Jet black hair. Most miserable personality I've encountered (present company excluded). Leo promised me he'd get rid of her.



I am wondering if I should reveal the other place SHE TOLD ME.


If you had provided a description of her, I could have told you. Now I'll have to make an educated guess.--Doctor's Cave.

BTW, The ladies at Marcet are usually more attractive. They have improved during the millenium since you've last been there.

You need not give me any of more tips for places in Newark. I know Newark even better than I know Paterson or S Hackensack. And I know places better than Twins !

StealthMode
06-04-03, 23:08
Added info on bowling alley / motel. Yes I believe that is EP. As for the bowling alley, I know providers do go to that lot and park on the side of the building.

Yuk..not me.. I've seen LE running radar there.

One SW months ago wanted to take me there. Opted for the motel town by Teterboro for like $16.

LE didn't look that prevelant during the day when I was there a few weeks ago when posted. Maybe they are concentrating on nights. As for DUC....I've driven that stroll for awhile, maybe I'm just familiar w/ them. Most of them I avoid. Always hoping for something fresh.

Best experience I ever had there was I thought I was going to pick up two. I dropped one off and the other took me ot Rainbow. What a dive. I wish I wasn't so damn nervous to be there because it was totally GFE. She was sweet, tender and fun. Never saw her again, her friend said she lost touch as well. :-( Was years ago.

Weirdest experience.....got off for a quicky bbbj in one of the car washes once.. :-)

SM

Wooly
06-06-03, 21:03
Originally posted by DeeUncola
From a reliable source -
not hearsay If you did not experience it first hand, if you cannot take full responsibility, it is hearsay!

Wooly
06-06-03, 21:12
Originally posted by DeeUncola
7
This is primo info, fully accurate and -
inspite of B. Bill's protests contrariwise -
probably appreciated by many here.The readers here have no problem with any of Buffalo Bill's reports. Every one contains vital first hand info, which has proven its value to other readers.

It was you who flamed his six month old report on Micky D's with old and totally useless trash.

Buffalo Bill
06-07-03, 00:13
Originally posted by DeeUncola
And more to the point: I am the one
who posted the phone number - NOT YOU!

So I await your apology, I was right overall.


When pigs fly. You posted WRONG information. You're so proud that caught your own ERROR, but you flame me for pointing out your ERROR. Your excuses are nothing weasel words. Try to get it right before you post it.

How many posts do you have now without a single bit of useful information?

Wooly
06-07-03, 17:54
Buffalo Bill, Do you have a copywrite on the phrase 'weasle words' or may others use it also. Its better than your reference to finding Jimmy Hoffa. Thanks

IntotheMuck
06-08-03, 23:25
anyone know what Hiddenhideaway's new website is?

OneEye
06-09-03, 02:24
Its been at least 6 months since ive been to Twins, but I like it there. I love the sleaze factor, Very high I would rate it a 8.
Ive seen some seriously over-makeup jobs on some the "Girls" ( I use the term loosly) there. Maybe 1 0r 2 OK loking ones, mostly either real chunky's or real old. Almost ALL brazilian babes. The place looks to have been there since the 40's or so. I believe its in Wallington, or at least very close to Wallington. There is a sports bar further down the road from it. I think it called the"Downtown".
I found this place by accident after going to the downtown, for a radio event, after leaving I passed by the sign and checked in. So sleazy i simply couldnt stay away. Been back a few times since, the girls Ive met dont do any Outside activities, lord knows ive tried. so I havent bee there in a while.
Geting to the place is easy, just go south on GSP to Garfield/Lodi exit, go past the Auto parts store, take that exit just after it, left at exit, follow all the way down for about 2 miles, eventually you will intersect with Main. Twins is right there on the right of that intersection. Worth checking it out. Bring a Map just in case, the streets down there can drive you insane if you get lost. Also This is a GO-GO bar, NOT a strip club. ----->Ceeeeyaaa!!

Buffalo Bill
06-09-03, 12:49
Originally posted by Wooly
Buffalo Bill, Do you have a copywrite on the phrase 'weasle words' or may others use it also. Its better than your reference to finding Jimmy Hoffa. Thanks

No Wooly, there's no copywrite, but I suggest that you refrain from using it. There's only one reason to use it on this board and that reason is just too far beneath us to warrent our attention.
Ignore it.

BTW: Twins has been in existance since the beginning of the GoGo era, at least 30 years. It had been known as Gentry's Brookside. It is in South Hackensack, but those dividing lines are so messed up the your car may be parked in Wallington or Lodi while seeming to be right out front.

Wooly
06-09-03, 19:44
Well, maybe true. One of Wooly reports seems to indicate otherwise.

This is typical Marcet. Hit or Miss. Sometimes it can be great Sometimes Argh! Actually, Wooly gives good information at times. I can respect that. His observation "One beer and out." seems to tell me the Marcet must not have changed that much.

True: This that quote does not give us info about the other four times. Maybe they were great. I doubt it. [/i][/QUOTE]This is childish. Why do you think I've been to Marcet so many times. Who the hell do you think you are trying to twist my words to fit your perverted desires. How many times have you been to Marcet ? How long ago ? Nobody gives a shit because nobody beleives any of the crap you make up. Bulffalo Bill recommended Marcet. I tried it. I liked it. I've been back many times. You have not !!!!!! How dare you tell me what its like when I've been there and you have not. Post what you know or post nothing. In your case that may be the same. I don't know if this post will get past Jackson's review.

OneEye
06-14-03, 11:22
DeeUncola: Sorry for the mix-up. However i didnt have you handy
Sleaze-O-factor Scale handy for my evaluation.
____________________________________________________
THE SLEAZE SCALE

1 - Clothes on, all the time. 2 - breast flashes 3 - breast touching. 4 - breast touching, bush flashes. 5 - breast and bush touching 6 - hand pulls (in your pants) 7 - hand jobs (with member proudly displayed) 8 - blow jobs 9 - Full service 10 - All of the above with girls walking by and giving complimentary hand pulls for no more than a buck.
____________________________________________________
But now that i do...I will Re-Rate Twins2 in South HACK. A Definate 6. Sorrry to have mislead any of you. I was using my own mental Slaze-O-Scale.

While im at it I would have to rate Cabaret in paterson (God forgive me if i misspelled it) a 7 on the Scale. and Midnight go-go
a 6 with possibe 7 depending on the girl. I almost had penetration one time with a cute black girl who knew how to shake that ass.

As for a club with an 8 rating, I once got it at Johny's in paterson
though such a thing cost $40 for VIP room. (if you can call it that).
I like the sleazyness of the place, but the majority of the clientele is a bit scary, as are some of the dancers.

Buffalo Bill
06-14-03, 20:46
Originally posted by DeeUncola
Let the record speak for itself

."[/b]

Let the D-man LIE for himself. You went out of your way to flame me for my an opinion which I expressed last December. You did this on May 28.
Now go ahead and weasel your way out of it. You need help !

You have over 70 posts consisting of nothing but flame and stupidity.

OneEye
06-16-03, 00:09
DeeUncola: WOW!!! I truly am speechless. Thank you for coming to my aid against the Infamous and spectacularly Inane remarks of B.B.

Im still Rolling on the Floor with Laughter on my Sleaze-O-Meter
Copyright logo. Thank you for the Credit.

P.S. Another correction to the last post i made, The club I Referred to as "Midnight" is the "Moonlight Go-Go", Right there on Scenic Market St, in the Heart of Bustling Boom Town of Paterson. Where the are Friendly Parking attendants who Promise NOT to throw a brick in your windshield and even protect it from other No-gooder's from doing the Same. Yes these Industrious lads have even Mastered the art of E.S.P.! One more than one occasion I tipped the Lad a Generous .25Cents for Protecting my
Car even AFTER i was Leaving the club! Yes he was able to Know
Which car was mine and protected it for me. Even though we never saw each other on the way IN to the Gentlemen’s Club. Truly Amazing.

OK back to Reality….DeeUncola you Really have mastered the art of looking up previous posting’s.
I wish I had the patients for such an undertaking. You have Slammed B.B. and really put him in his place.
Great job.

And B.B. Take Chill Pill Dude. You need to relax, and obviously going to the strip clubs aint doing the trick.

OneEye
06-16-03, 00:17
Woops...Goffed Again. Sleaze-O-Factor.
Damn, youd think i should Know my own Copyrighted material by now.

Rebrobate218
06-16-03, 20:31
OneEye,

Tell me how you found the Moonlight. In the old days it was the place to be. You could get away with almost anything if the right palms were crossed in Guy's and the girls were really good looking at Babydolls....but the Moonlight had the best mix of sleazy cheap thrills. It just had that certain something. I was back in Jersey for Memorial day and the Moonlight was dead. Two girls and 5 bouncers and no customers. Was it just bad timing or have hard time really come to the Moonlight?

jhunter
06-16-03, 22:20
Mahwah.

I already posted in "Other Areas" Apologies if I broke a rule or something. I'm going to be in Mahwah for a week. Paterson seems to be the closest city (19 miles) Can anyone give me area info regarding SWs in either place. Where, going rate etc?

dirtmonger
06-17-03, 10:24
Cops comes to Paterson??

A good friend "hobbiest" got sidetracked (like he always does) on his way home Friday and did the Market loop looking for a little action. He says he's a good boy and doesn't go, but his truck is in paterson more than UPS

He saw a guy pulled over by Passaic County Sherrifs with a guy and what he thinks was a working girl in the car. the best part was he was finally going to be on tv. there was a camera man and sound guy their as they pulled him out of the car.

OneEye
06-19-03, 20:08
Originally posted by dirtmonger
Cops comes to Paterson??

A good friend "hobbiest" got sidetracked (like he always does) on his way home Friday and did the Market loop looking for a little action. He says he's a good boy and doesn't go, but his truck is in paterson more than UPS

He saw a guy pulled over by Passaic County Sherrifs with a guy and what he thinks was a working girl in the car. the best part was he was finally going to be on tv. there was a camera man and sound guy their as they pulled him out of the car.

You DeeUncola, You do it again. another great posting and slam on B.B. Im lovin the Paterson Pyschic Panhandler Patrol ®.
Im still Laughing out load about it. I guess they do must really posess (E)xtra (S)ensory (P)anhandling. I have never considered to ever ask these guys if they had any good connections. Most of the ones iv'e run into are pretty scary.
But if i see any cool lookin ones, I just might scare up enough courage to ask them.

As for parking in the Scenic Town, there is a huge parking lot just down cianci st, Im pretty sure its parking for the courthouse patrons during the day, but in the evening its free parking for whoever wants it. I usually hit that up when parking and then cruise around the various Gentelmens Clubs. The tricky part is coming back to your car after your Various trists, They are always walking around the lot, scince its so huge it pretty easy to wait till they (or he) or (She), has walked away far enough so that you can sneek back to your car sight un-seen. or at least to far away for them to come up to you before getting into your car and slapping down those locks.

I have seen a couple times a white girl that cruises up and down cianci st, panhandling for change. Cant help to wonder if she was ready to turn tricks too, she never hinted to it. and i was sure as hell not about to ask, pretty skanky lookin.
About a 4 on the Skank-O-Meter. 1 being the least Skanky and 10 being the most Skankatrucious.

Now I thought COPS program was cancled after someone deemed that Having a film crew up in your face after being pulled over just might be infringing on privicay rights.
I see the re-runs all the time on Court-TV, but im pretty sure there are no new episodes.
I suppose this film crew is the one that sends a copy of the video to ones wife & family after being videotaped with a young hottie, polishing the knob and the film crew hits the lights so everyone at home can see what youve been up to.
Just guessing of course. I will keep my OneEYE Peeled to see if it ever hits the idiot box.
Later! Peace! You da man DeeUncola.

Al Kikuras
06-20-03, 22:49
Fucking Hilarious!!!


Originally posted by DeeUncola
Here is where their amazing and astounding, altogether death-defying psychic abilities come in...

Al Kikuras
06-20-03, 23:14
Quick update- Last week ran through some of the Paterson bars again:

Moonlight- Usually hit or miss, and unfortunately this night turned out to be a HUGE miss. Dancer selection was almost completely without exception comprised of 5 ft tall blimpy Spanish women with absolutely no sex appeal. On occasion they would pester those honorable patrons for $1 tips (nip peeks) but luckily all easily resigned to defeat when their lowly offer was declined.

Guys- 3 dancers of Latin American origin. Although not one even bothered to dance on stage. Good thing actually because they were rather unattractive as well.

Micky D's- Closed by 1am.

Tropicana-2 girls not so bad looking. But it appeared they didn't want to be there any more than I did although both performed a short set on stage. Bar next door was completely empty other than a few of the local guys. Maybe things are different on weekends?


Keep in mind that this report was the result of weekday night (Wednesday) visit.

Rebrobate218
06-21-03, 13:55
How was the contact at the Moonlight? And how much were the lapdances?

OneEye
06-22-03, 18:13
Moonlight for me has Always been Hoppin.

Rebrobate218
You said things were dead on memorial day weekend. All i can figure is maybee someone hired the girls
for a party or somethin. its always been a hoppin joint for me.
In fact too many girls to guys ratio.
The times ive always gone is late night on a fri or sat night,
Perhaps others have gone at a stranger hour, but its jumpin
whenever ive been there.
Just watch out, those girls are like hawks coming in for a fresh kill
when they see a new face walk in. Be cool and blow them off
for a while till the settle down, that should give you time enough to pick out whatever girl turns you on the most and go for her.
Dont be tricked by the rotating girlfriend routine, stick with one.
as long as shes givin you what you want.

Soft Touches
07-01-03, 16:00
Hi all;

I'll be spending about 5 weeks in the Montvale area and am looking for suggestions for places to go. SW's would be nice but I'm not sure if there any in the surrounding area. Second choice would be AMP (F/S) or strip clubs. Could any of you make a suggestion to someone who doesn't know the area?

Thanks

Wooly
07-01-03, 23:24
Montvale, NJ is smack in the heart of affluent residental area. Not much of interest to us. There may be one exception - J Berg posted an AMP review over in the Rockland County, NY section on 6/26/03. I suggest you check that area.

Your best bets for SW or strip? bars are Paterson which is closer or Newark which has much more to offer. The question mark is because NJ does not offically have any nudity if booze is served. There are a few juice bars or bring your own, but I've found these very disappointing and havn't been for a couple of years.
Read up on the past posts for these areas. If you have any more specific questions, I'll try to be more specific too.

AnonJohn
07-02-03, 12:51
Originally posted by Soft Touches
Hi all;

I'll be spending about 5 weeks in the Montvale area and am looking for suggestions for places to go. SW's would be nice but I'm not sure if there any in the surrounding area. Second choice would be AMP (F/S) or strip clubs. Could any of you make a suggestion to someone who doesn't know the area?

Thanks

I know that area well. There is nothing I know of going on in Montvale, just an upscale residential neighborhood and a bunch of office buildings scattered about. Quite a pretty area, relatively speaking. In fact, I wouldn't even begin to know where to look for trim there, or anything within a 10 mi radius, except for maybe just over the NY border, but I'm not too sure about that either. Rockland Co. has a few AMPs and a strip bar or two, not sure about what SW activity goes on, probably little to none.

Soft Touches
07-02-03, 15:19
Originally posted by anonjohn
I know that area well. There is nothing I know of going on in MontvaleOh No!!!! away from home and it looks like I will have to suffer a dryspell. Thanks for your input anon and wooly. I'll take some of the suggestions and plan on doing some driving, jjuice bars? Man that doesn't sound like fun at all.

Thanks again

OneEye
07-06-03, 22:28
I cant imagine that if anyone is familiar with montvale in the least, that they would even think any MP, let alone AMP could exist there. There is just no way. Too ritzy an aera for that stuff. Very suburban. I agree with DeeUncola. Go up Rt 304 to Nanuet exit, take to RT-59 heading West, look for a sign for Stilletto's S***THOLE is up there.

Used to frequent the place before i found better places further south from there. You MUST pay for 2 Drinks the second you walk in the dump. Nude dancing on Large Square tables. Mediocore LAP dances. A 4 on the Erect-O-nomiter Scale.

1. The Turtle Head

2. The Howard Stern

3. Gettin Blood to Flow, and stating to feel someting

4. A comfy lil Bludge

5. School Bus on a bumpy Rd.

6 School Bus Going 4 wheelin

7. Normal Sized Errection, & pitcin the Tent.

8. Must have pull it out before you split your pants.

9. Willing to Stoke in public no matter who's lookin.

10. Not even a Magna Condom will keep from Poppin.
That is my New Offical Erect-O-nomiter Scale.

Anyway.........

Futher up going west is a place where its as good as it can get in Spring Valley...Well actually Mon$ey, and that is T & A's. A good 5 to 6 on the Sleze-O-Factor Scale.

OneEye has given the Brand Name Sleaze-O-Factor© to my sleaze scale. To assist in the proper reporting of Strip Bars please refer to the

THE OFFICIAL SLEAZE-O-FACTOR © SCALE

1 - Clothes on, all the time.

2 - breast flashes

3 - breast touching.

4 - breast touching, bush flashes.

5 - breast and bush touching

6 - hand pulls (in your pants)

7 - hand jobs (with member proudly displayed)

8 - blow jobs

9 - Full service

10 - All of the above with girls walking by and giving complimentary hand pulls for no more than a buck.

But this place is very dangerous too, some very tricky girls there will promise BJ's just to get you in the $50.00 back room, and when you get in there your lucky to get a HJ at very best.

It a very efficent way of blowing lots of Cash and getting next to nothing in retun for it.

I have since mended my ways, and stick to P-town or NYC for my Hedonistic activities.

Hope this helps. Later All.

Buffalo Bill
07-07-03, 21:39
Fine responses by Anonjohn and Wooly ! You both correctly directed the requester over to the Rockland County, N.Y. which will be closer for him than Paterson, Passaic or Newark. There are other interesting bars in the Bergen County area which probabily want to keep a low profile so I will not name them here.
If either of you or the original requester care to post an e-mail, I'll tell you about it privately.

One small bit of housekeeping, there must be some reason why we have separate sections for various areas. If anyone knows the reason, please explain it to those who post Rockland in this area. One last minor item having to do with Newark, which also has its own section but nonetheless appeares here. Vic's is not in Newark, it is in Irvington. Not a big thing, actually a common misteak made by those who have never been there.

Mr. Joyboy
07-08-03, 08:14
Originally posted by Soft Touches
Hi all;

I'll be spending about 5 weeks in the Montvale area and am looking for suggestions for places to go. SW's would be nice but I'm not sure if there any in the surrounding area. Second choice would be AMP (F/S) or strip clubs. Could any of you make a suggestion to someone who doesn't know the area?

Thanks There used to be a great F/S AMP in Old Tappan but unfortunately it was busted awhile ago. There are a couple of AMPs in Rockland but they are strictly R&T and not worth mentioning. There are also some RMPs in Bergen and Rockland. They are not full service but you can get a fully nude, free roaming HJ and/or body rub. There is one in Emerson, NJ and the other in Nanuet, NY. If you're intertesed let me know.

Soft Touches
07-08-03, 09:39
Originally posted by Buffalo Bill
Fine responses by Anonjohn and Wooly ! You both correctly directed the requester over to the Rockland County, N.Y. which will be closer for him than Paterson, Passaic or Newark. There are other interesting bars in the Bergen County area which probabily want to keep a low profile so I will not name them here.
If either of you or the original requester care to post an e-mail, I'll tell you about it privately.Buffalo Bill et al;

Thank you for all the information you've given me, hope to return the favor some day (R.I./MA). The information on interesting bars would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to send it on to softtouches02906 at ya hoo dot com. (2 t's in the name).

Thanks again all

OneEye
07-09-03, 18:19
Hey DeeUncola, I have one item to add to your Bergen cty Ratings.
I was indeed at the New LACE on 46. A tip, Park elswhere down 46 and hoof it to the club. They have Valet pakoing Only at the club. Inside the place is Very Nice. Lots of Comfy chairs on wheels, Typical. There is a Main stage in the center up against the wall, and Lots of tables around. Although the chairs are just all over the place with no aparent order. Its pretty big aera the girls on stage dont rush you and and beg for singles which was a nice relief.
Lap dances are done on a second tier which is pretty narrow but higher up from the main floor, and goes all the way around the main area. Lots of chairs there too.
The Lap dances were $10.00 per song, so i went for a couple from a few girls. Girls were all real good lookin. 8's 9's & 10's. No real preasure from anyone, very relaxed. of course this being jersey there the bouncers at every corner to make sure you dont get away with too much. There is a VIP section in the back, pertty sure she said it was $150.00 for it, though it may be higher. i declined. Its a "Classy Joint" the kind of place you can bring your girlfriend to when she's getting kinky.

All in all i rate a 6 no Real nuidity, cause its joisey. but a nice place to visit if you have business clients to impress.

Wooly
07-10-03, 00:08
Originally posted by Buffalo Bill
Thanks Repro,

Micky D's sounds just as I remembered from my visit about a year ago. If you enjoy it, that's great, but it does not make me want to try it again. There are too many other places which I know I'll enjoy. Marcet, Slappy's, Peek-a-Boo, with the beautiful ladies, Diva's in Haldeon and Twins in S. Hackensack (which no one can find). I won't mention the several which I like in Newark. I think it would be fitting to replay the ORIGINAL recommendation for several of the places mentioned so fondly by others. Buffalo Bill is a poster who is reliable.Marcet has been mentioned many times prior to this, with Buffalo Bill having added valuable first hand information previously. I have been there many times and have found his comments absolutly accurate. I have also been to Slappy's (wow!), Peek-a-Boo, and Diva. As best as I can determine this posting is the original mention of these places. Each was excellent as described. This is also the FIRST mention of Twins, which has been reviewed to death here. (Buffalo Bill, I'll never forgive you for telling us about it.) I wanted to bring this foreward so that this usefull information, which is current and verified could be more easily found.

Buffalo Bill
07-10-03, 14:50
The recent review of Pleasure Lounge failed to mention the club's best feature...... There is a good selection of Elvis on the jutebox !

Wooly
07-10-03, 16:54
Originally posted by Buffalo Bill
The recent review of Pleasure Lounge failed to mention the club's best feature. There is a good selection of Elvis on the jutebox ! GREAT REPORT

Are the dancers attractive ?

Buffalo Bill
07-11-03, 16:24
Originally posted by Wooly
GREAT REPORT

Are the dancers attractive ?

Not usually, sometimes one of the regular ladies might bring her attractive granddaughter. Once granddaughter sees how little money can be made here she's off to Paterson.
Another problem with this place is that the food is usually homemade and very good. If you have some of the good food it will take several gallons of beer before you can appreciate the dancers.
Not a place you want to go to if you're sober.

Because the ladies ( I didn't say girls ) make so little money here, no-shows are very common. They book only two ladies per night. Therefore tip dancers will often drop in to look over the crowd(?). If they think they can make a couple of bucks they will dance a set or two until they have cleaned up all the available pesos and they'll be off. I beleive that they are the 'hookers' reported to drop in occasionally.

Wooly
07-11-03, 23:13
Pleaure Lounge sure sounds like a ton of fun. Good food, old women and Elvis. The only other thing I would need is a little Buddy Holly music.

Soft Touches
07-14-03, 12:24
Originally posted by DeeUncola
Some second hand info - at an inferior board, so I will not mention its name - recently gave more confirmations of FS and BJs which have been reported at the frightful Mickey Dees by others.
This looks like a good place to start for me. Could you tell me where Mickey Dee's is? Town, Street etc.

Thanks

Wooly
07-14-03, 16:33
Originally posted by Buffalo Bill
Micky Dee's has no reason to exist. Surprised to hear its still in operation. It's a lot like Marcet, except much lower class and without the benefit of an occasional attractive dancer, This perfectly describes my and most of the reactions that I have read about MD's. My drinking buddy won't even drive by the place again. It just ain't safe.
On that other board it is described as a "shithole dump" and that it has the "ugliest woman in the tri-state area".

There are too many much cleaner, safer and more entertaining spots in Paterson. Try Hi-Beams, Slappy's or Marcet.

Rebrobate218
07-14-03, 23:49
This place does suck, but I fucked a Brazilian with a great body a while back in the club. As for the previous poster, it is a "shithole dump", and some of the women are not the ugliest in the trr-state area, but I would say the ugliest in the kingdom of Primates and the species of homosapians, but I fucked and got sucked by a Brazilian with a great bod. Maybe a shithole has its place?

Soft Touches
07-17-03, 19:28
Sorry! I posted my adventures in Passaic in the Newark Forum by accident.

Look it up, and yes I agree "What A SH*T Hole".

Rebrobate218
07-17-03, 23:41
Dee,

I see you have figured out who I am on the other board. Good snoop job. The bottom line is that you really can hit gold here. You may have to walk through some BS to get there but a good time can be had. And if not, simply move on.

Enjoy life!

Rebrobate218
07-17-03, 23:44
DeeUncola,

You may have notice that when I post on this site I make many typos. When I post here I have had my cocktails for the night. The delay is something you have to get used to. You are the best, keep the infor flowing.

Wooly
07-19-03, 16:34
Mickey D's is an unsafe shithole! Avoid it at all costs!

dirtmonger
07-21-03, 10:15
Originally posted by DeeUncola

Guy's Vie en Rose will get you off, by suck and probably a fuck; but it will be out in the open and you will be vacuumed free of singles by the Russian bartenders.Wwhere is Vie en Rose?

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions for capitalization and punctuation. To avoid future delays, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!

Soft Touches
07-21-03, 19:24
Originally posted by DeeUncola
Did you finally find it?

110 Belmont St. PATERSON NJ Not Passaic!

No big deal. We all make honest mistakes.

If you are scared. try early evening like 7PM Yes, it was a typo, sorry! Coming from New England I think I went into culture shock. Oh well, more time to explore and a lot more interesting places and things to see.

I've really got to cut out the agencies, draining me of funds.

Rebrobate218
07-21-03, 19:52
Wooly,

Is there something about Mickey D's that I don't know about. It is in an unsafe area, that is for sure. But the vast majority of the patrons in the bar are on ghetto thugs, they are regular working guys looking for a good time. I have never seen anything unsafe in the bar. As for the area, it apears to be more dangerous than down town Paterson, but if you go in the early evening around 7 or so you should not have any problems. The chance of you getting robbed, raped, or murdered on the street in that part of Paterson if far less than going into Mickey D's and only having ass ugly women pester you for a dance. Every now and than you will find an acceptable girl and you will be sinking the Titanic in private on the cheap. If any is scared of the area, take a couple of friends.

Soft Touches
07-23-03, 22:29
Well I went out venturing tonight to find twins. I must have screwed up the directions or something. When I stoppped a couple of times in Hackensack they had no idea what I was talking about.

I ended up finding centerfolds, some real nice looking girls there. There is a private room for private dances. The first girl I asked was about a 7 in looks, very nice to talk to, but didn't do lap dances. I liked her so much I invited her for a drink (with a $20 tip). Turns out she was working there only for the bucks she could grab but would only go so far. I heard her sad story, single mom, etc. and figured she was setting me up for something. So I flat out offerred $300 to come back to my room. No go, turns out she was for real.

For some reason when the other girls saw her sitting with me they came dancing over for the bills. I must have sucker written on my head. This one russion redhead would take the bill and slide my hand over her nipple, finally someone to dance with.

The girls was about a 5-6 in looks and got my pecker hard, thats about it, so towars the end of the lap dance I just slid my hand down her pants for a good feel. I thought she was gonna fucking hit the roof, but all she did was quickly grab my hand out, stand up and said the dance was over.

Hopefully I'll get to check some of the other places. As for street action, I saw Nada.

Soft Touches
07-24-03, 20:42
Incredible experience.

As I was perusing the Internet last night. Being horny as usual I cam across an independent at a very reasonable price. I says to myself "is this come on?" So being so horny that my cock is scraping along the floor as I walk down the hall, I decided what the hell. I sent her an e-mail asking about price (in case it changed) services etc.

I receieved an e-mail back 2 hrs. later (impressive for a services provider) directing me to her web site (Fille77 on aol).

The web sites states oral only. Well since the last service I had was okay, even though the girl was pleasant and a clean freek I decided what the hell. I called her this afternoon, told her where I was and set up an appointment for 6:30 (she has limited hours due to classes).

When she came I saw a very cute Indian girl. She came in ignored the money on the table and explained to me her rules. No cumming her in her mouth, no facials, and no full service. That was it. Well I figure if I'm paying her and I don't like what she's doing then screw her I'd hold her head down till she swallowed.

Well, after agreeing to her rules, she said lets get comfortable. We stripped, she had a nice body with huge tits. She hugged me and we started to rock and roll. The prelims wer okay, her pussy looked good, so I sat her down and went down on her. Man she came about 3 times, never gripping me, never pushing me away. Then it was my turn.

This girl kissed and rubbed my body very softly and nice, then went down on me. She took about an hour driving me fucking nuts! It was friggen incredible. Brought me close several times, only to back off and keep teasing me. I finally had to change position so I was assured of controlling the situation.

Finally with her lying on her side doing me while I played with her pussy I was cumming (told her of course since she was soooooo good) and came all over her tits.

Afterwards she was in no hurry to leave. We cuddled for a little while then I told herabout WSG etc., showed her the site. She then showed me her friends site that she designed. Turns out she was the photographer. Impressive site.

When she left, I felt like I was good friends with her. One of the most pleasant experiences I have ever, and I do mean ever, had that I paid for.

Don't worry guys, I don't plan on buying her a diamond and new car.

Price $16, experience, well not exactly priceless, but something for memories.

Oh yeah her name was ABBY and she advertises on Sophies.

Littledrd
07-25-03, 08:34
What time does md close during the week and on the weekend?

Hoboynj
07-25-03, 18:45
Well after a couple of tries I did find twins. Its not in Hackensack proper its off 17 between lodi and wood-ridge. Use mapquest and you will find it. Well I wasthere about 4 pm there were 3 ladies all between 5 and 8. Nice attitudes two did sorta did push for dollars but nithing real big. all thre were from newark area and dance in newark too but not in any of the clubs that have been spoken about here. About 5:30 another dancer blonde did come in I would estimate 36 to 40 DD and they were real about 41 to 45. She is a bar maid there and dances for fun. She had a great personality and had a good time talkingto her.. All in all I had a good time there. There is no hustle bought 2 dancers drinks one had OJ thats right orange juice and the other had club soda. Both were fun to talk to. Using the patented SLEAZE-O-FACTOR © SCALE it was definatly 5+ it probably get really rockin when there are people there.

AsianLvr
07-27-03, 09:45
Originally posted by Littledrd
What time does md close during the week and on the weekend? They tend to close around 10pm or so on the weekdays and around 11pm on Friday or Saturday. Your best bet is to get there around 7 and park in the lot on the side of the building. There may be several guys hanging around the front door but don't let that scare you off. Just exchange pleasantries and tell them you'll take care of business on the way out. The rest should come naturally. Step inside and hope for the best.

Rock on, rock hard!

K-

PS - The only guy outside you need to take care of is a dude named Gene...all the rest with the exception of the guy who usually sits on the milk crate are just local riff-raf.

J Burb
07-27-03, 13:52
I usually monger and post in some NY areas but was recently given a very educational tour of Paterson NJ by a fellow monger. Went there this Fri night to window shop and throughout the evining I must have seen between 15 and 20 SW's out of various quality and in several locations. Im not too familiar with all the street names, but know at least one of them was Market st.

My first attempt wanted .40 just for a BJ which I passed on because I knew these girls would bargian less with all the compitition out. The second girl didnt even talk money till we found a spot but ended up settling on on .30 for FS which was reasonable. Said she usually charges .50 for FS and works mainly at her apartment but boredom bought her out and I was her only trick all night. She was a rather cute very thick assed black girl named Laurie who was clean, smelled nice, and had a great personality. She worked a regular job too, so didnt seem to be in the dire strait nasty condition that many SW's usually are. Very pleasant and accomodating, an over all excellent SW experience. Her nice big booty was off the charts too for those of you who like it like that

P.S. MONGERS BEWARE: My pal also pointed out two SW's in this area that were actually trannys. One was a short South American or Mexacan looking girl and the other looked to be a darker possably Dominican girl. Both fairly passable. Also some LE drive unmarked Caprices and Suburbans as well as at least one possable undercover taxi floating around.

J Burb

Wooly
08-06-03, 11:02
Originally posted by Rebrobate218
Wooly,

Is there something about Mickey D's that I don't know about. It is in an unsafe area, that is for sure.Why would anyone who has actually been there recommend this shithole to someone from out of state, without any mention of the disgusting area?

A wrong turn could easily result in a car-jacking or worse.

The 'gentlemen' standing around on the corner here are selling something, which may or may not be girl scout cookies. I did not try to find out. In addition to actually stopping in, I have driven past several times. I do not pretend to be an expert on drug dealing, but this appeares to be as close to finding out as I ever want to be.

I have a job and the ability to find women who do not make me puke. I cannot imagine ever sinking to the level where I could acheive an organism with anything as ugly as the women at Micky D's.

Let me suggest:

a) Sandra at Slappy's. She gives a great blow job in the lady's room. Several others will also.

b) Hi-Beams - Almost any gal will give a BJ upstaire in the LP area.

c) Marcet - Always one, two or more very attractive Dominicans (along with many dogs) who will provide FULL service off premises.

d) Doctor's cave - Same as Marcet, although many more grandmothers.

These are all in safe locations. There is no need to worry about your car or your life as ar Mickey D's.

If you enjoy MD's and can afford no better that's OK with me, but don't recommend it to others without indicating the risks and the safer alternates.

Also there are numerous superior Newark locations. See that board and especially read the posts of Buffalo Bill and John Y Doe for excellent recomendations.

J Burb
08-09-03, 16:35
Originally posted by DeeUncola
I was going to write a long apology to everyone for not having been to Paterson recently and for not having news to report. It seems, however, that no one has posted in a week here, and so everyone is avoiding Paterson; so no apology is in order.

Has something happened?! I was wondering myself Dee, with so many other mongers complaining about difficulties finding action in thier areas, I'm suprised this thread is so quiet because the location certianly is'nt. Always many choices out at all different times and days of the week it seems.

Since my last post here I've made 3 more trips scoring dirt cheap 1/2 & 1/2 action each time (.20/.20/.30). Not bad. Every girl has been pleasant to deal with too, unlike some of the seasoned hard bitches I've occasionally encountered elswhere. I would have been posting more about these journys, but with the minimal contributions and feedback on this thread lately, I felt no one is really listening.

J Burb

Rebrobate218
08-10-03, 00:47
Wolly, I'm glad you have a job. I would be bothered if you were some welfare slug hanging out in go-go bars on my tax dollars. I will stand by every thing I have said about Mickey D's. It is a slice of low class heaven. Also, I will say thanks for the info. I will try Dr's Cave again. I have not had much success at Marcet. The dancers think I look like a cop. I guess I should do more groping when tipping them on stage?? I have had much success at the Moonlight. After 1 in the morn it is a free for all. Your position in negotiation for services gets better the later it gets. I've taken dancers home from "George and I" in Newark, both while George owned the place and after he sold it. You can get laid from "After Dark" in Newark, if you are willing to pay for it, and Guy's in Paterson is also good. Vic's is the best, its in Inrvington if you can handle the area. I'm simply saying that Mickey D's is in a bad 'hood. It is not as bad as it looks. There is an open air Dr*g market near the Marcet, as wll as prostitution, and a gang runs the streets near the Moonlight. So don't thing you are safe. Mickey D's is a shit hole. I admit that freely. But every now and than you will find a sexy dancer there and you can have some low class funn. If every one there is a pig, just move on. It is not that bad of a place. If you don't have the sack to be in the area, I can suggest clubs in some of the safer areas of NJ: Summit, West Orange, Maplewood, etc.

Wooly
08-11-03, 09:42
Dee,

You should actually go to the place insteat of just parrot what is posted from long ago on some other board. Get out of the house or Home where thet keep you ! I've been there and pass it frequently on my wat to amother place which I will not mention because I don't want any of your sick, useless remarks attached to it. I know what I see you don't even see whsat you report!

J Burb
08-11-03, 18:32
To DEE or WOOLY,

I'd like to check out this Mickey Dee's myself sometime and will post my own neutral report if I do. Im not normally into the high cost/ low action factor of most strip joints, (especially when theres plenty of affordable SW's in Paterson) but this one seems it may appeal to my sense of low budget and maximum sleaze. At the very least it may be a good tease before I shop the street. I know you each have your own take on the place, but some more factual rather than opinionated info would be of higher value to an interested party such as myself. I'd appriciate any answers to the following questions either of you might provide. (or anyone else for that matter)

MICKEY DEE's

1) Is there a cover and/or drink minimum? If so how much?

2) Is it a high pressured spending atmosphere?

3) About how many girls will be there on a shift?

4) Any idea of activity costs? (touching, LD, BJ, FS ect.)
and is there a private area that incurrs an extra fee?

5) Will I be the only caucasion face in the bar and/or neighborhood?

6) Also, I've read theres SW's around Belmonte but am only familiar with the Market / Broadway / Van Houten run. Can anyone confirm this or give me some alternative active streets in Paterson I might explore?

THANKS!

J Burb

Wooly
08-12-03, 08:49
Repro,

Before that guy with no life craps all over this board again, please respond to the basic question 'would you recommend mick d to an out of towner, without any mention of safty?'

The are dozens if not hundreds of reviews of this shithole all over the internet and all but this asshole's make some mention of safty.

You and I can agree to disagree, but I recognize your right to an opinion since you provide information from someone who has been there, unlike that guy who just spouts crap in order to see his name in print.

One more thing. Could it be possible for you to tell us about when you enjoyed the various encounters? As you know from actually going there, these places change personality frequently. The strip bar scene is very dynamic.

Al Kikuras
08-13-03, 01:02
Originally posted by DeeUncola
They will offer to wet dance you till you come in your pants, that is for sure. But I do not like that.

Excuse my ignorance here, but can someone plz explain what a wet dance is?

Wooly
08-13-03, 10:45
Originally posted by Al Kikuras
Excuse my ignorance here, but can someone plz explain what a wet dance is? Better yet. Can someone explain why we have all those useless posts?

J Burb
08-13-03, 13:28
Originally posted by DeeUncola
Looks, location, and race!

Details?! I love to listen! Okay, here you go then.

1) KIM: A tall thin BSW, slight limp, decent face (6) amazing hazel eyes. Soft spoken, patient and accomodating.

2) CHINA: A quirky somewhat hyper Latina. Nice healthy figure, short hair, 4++ face. Not too bright but fun personality and eager to please

3) TINA: A chunky but vuluptious dark latina with a pretty face 8. Was a little cautious but finally came around and took a real liking to me. We'll be meeting at her place next time.

Recently I also snagged Karen during the week for .20 . She was a plump BSW who wasnt too attractive but LE was particularly heavy this night and I felt I was cruzing too much so I lost some descretion. I regret not doing my usual vaginal inspection first because this ***** didnt inform me she was on the rag and blead all over me and my vehicle. She then had the nerve to ask me for my number to arrange something regular knowing I was already annoyed. Never again! Vaginal inspections are MANDITORY from now on before I give up a single dollar. Not only was it gross and gave her pussy a lack of friction, a SW's blood doesnt seem a safe thing to come in contact with under any curcumstances.

Note: Everything came from Market except the last girl which was found on Van Houten. Nothing new, please provide other streets if you know any.

J Burb

Rebrobate218
08-13-03, 21:18
DeeUncola and J Burb,

What more can I say about Mickey Dee's that has not already been said. DeeUncola, correct me if I'm wrong but the beauty of Mickey Dee's is that if there is a dancer that you find attractive, you can bone her in relative privacy for less money than you would spend on a nice dinner, and you will not be rushed. If you do not find anyone attractive to you...which is very possible because this is the dancer's graveyard, just move on. You will have all of Paterson to investigate. There will be some pressure to buy drinks in MDs. However, compared to other clubs like Guy's Le Vie en Rose or Cabaret, it is very, very slight. You buy the bartender a drink and your dancer a drink and you will be fine. At Guy's it is like paying a Vig to a loan shark. If the area scares you, now is the time to go. It is light out until almost 8. Mickey D's is a shithole, but a shithole worth checking out. You can have a sleazy great time or you can just move on and have a great sleazy great time some place else.

Rebrobate218
08-13-03, 21:39
Wooly,

I will offer a truce: Lets all stop with the personal attacks. I don't like DeeUncola nor do I dislike him. Never met the guy, but he does put out some great posts. They are not only funny but very informative as well. You have to admit that his "sleaze-o-meter" or what ever he calls it is great and to some degree something to live buy. Let face it, I've gone to a clubs and unloaded my wallet and had nothing to show for it but a hard-on, shit happens. If you apply those rules you may leave when it become clear that the only thing working is your wallet. The posts that you put out I will take to heart. I will check out the place you mentioned when I come back to NJ. I will always try to use good info. To directly answer you question, yes, to a local or an out-of towner I will state that Mickey Dee's is in a bad area and to be aware of what is around you and watch your back. I like Mickey Dee's, and I love Vic's in Irvington, and I like Moonlight and some other places, and I will always tell someone that this is not a safe area, and to be careful. You are 100% right. When I said that "you don't have the sack for Mickey Dee's" I was wrong and I'm sorry. You are right in that it is in bad bad area. If you have info about Ragtime please put it out. If you want to know about clubs in Providence, let me know I will fill you in. Can't we all just get along!

Buffalo Bill
08-14-03, 08:23
Originally posted by Wooly
Repro,

Before that guy with no life craps all over this board again, please respond to the basic question 'would you recommend mick d to an out of towner, without any mention of safty?'

The are dozens if not hundreds of reviews of this shithole all over the internet and all but this asshole's make some mention of safty.

You and I can agree to disagree, but I recognize your right to an opinion since you provide information from someone who has been there, unlike that guy who just spouts crap in order to see his name in print.

One more thing. Could it be possible for you to tell us about when you enjoyed the various encounters? As you know from actually going there, these places change personality frequently. The strip bar scene is very dynamic.
Another great post, Wooly. I admire your ability to tackle a complex issue and reduce it to its essential factor. This board is really a mess and I'm sure that parasite will attach his crap to this message to screw it up further.

J.Burb
... Mick D's is not as dangerous as Wooly has indicated, he was responding to a request by an out-of towner. It is none-the-less dangerous, but that's not the reason to avoid it. It is the ugly old women, but that's a matter of taste. If you fantasize about fucking your grandmother, you will definitely enjoy this place. (Actually your grandmother is probabily more attractive.) From you previous reports it seems you appreciate quality. I look forward to your report.

Rebrobate,
Your comment about Rx dealing ‘near’ Marcet is technically correct but totally misleading, something Bill Clinton would say. There is drug dealing and prostitution ‘near’ Marcet as there is everywhere in Paterson. It exists about six to ten blocks away around the projects.
There is no way that anyone with reasonable intelligence would ever encounter such activities while going to Marcet. The traffic pattern, one way streets and quiet residential streets immediately around Marcet do not lead into any dangerous areas, unless you believe that all Paterson is dangerous.
At MickD the dealing is within a few feet of the entrance. You can’t avoid it.
I admit that Marcet is difficult for an amateur to find but will not concede that the side streets, even around the projects are dangerous. I don’t know if you were trying to be deceptive by making this statement but its clear that you owe Wooly an apology.

Buffalo Bill
08-14-03, 21:52
Gentlemen,

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Instead, simply use the "Report this post to a moderator" link at the bottom of the report to send me an email alerting me of the problem, and I will take the appropriate action, which usually means that I will remove the entire report as I have so obviously done here.

Thank You

Jackson

Buffalo Bill
08-14-03, 22:28
Originally posted by Wooly
Repro,

Before that guy with no life craps all over this board again, please respond to the basic question 'would you recommend mick d to an out of towner, without any mention of safty?'

The are dozens if not hundreds of reviews of this shithole all over the internet and all but this asshole's make some mention of safty.

You and I can agree to disagree, but I recognize your right to an opinion since you provide information from someone who has been there, unlike that guy who just spouts crap in order to see his name in print.

One more thing. Could it be possible for you to tell us about when you enjoyed the various encounters? As you know from actually going there, these places change personality frequently. The strip bar scene is very dynamic.

This is an excellent post !

Buffalo Bill
08-14-03, 22:39
Originally posted by Rebrobate218
If you have info about Ragtime please put it out. Ragtime is an excellent place. The exact opposits of MicD's.
If you like young beautiful brazilian women, this is a must visit.
If however you are more interested in sleeze you'll not find it here. There is lap-dancing but it is tame.

Remember this is not Paterson, it is the only strip club in West Paterson. Don runs a nice clean establishment, he knows the town fathers are looking for any excuse to shut him down.

Rebrobate218
08-15-03, 00:06
Bill,

Again I say lets have a truce for every one. If you don't think there is not Rx dealing outside of Marcet. I have some mutual funds to sell you (B shares). I can say that my lack of success at Marcet is due to my looks and the fact that I refused to put time into when I lived there. The area of Marcet...like Mickey D's, if full of hard working people who life in a shit whole. There are many aspects of a underground economy going on there, nobody on this board is a virgin. I could never hook up at the Marcet, but I did at Moonlight with the same girls.

Bottom line: If you can tell me where I can have a sleazy good time please tell me. If you want to come to Providenace and go to an AMP and pay the price, I will tell you were to go. If you come to Boston and want to get buck wild in the Ghetto (Roxbury or Dorchester) I will tell you what to do. I went to Mickey D's for Good Friday. Momrial day...and the 4th. Heard about it on this board. This is all about getting your rocks off, so lets let the info flow.

The place you spoke of in West Paterson, Respectable etc. What the F would I want to go there for? You should go to Vic's in Irvington and get a taste of sleaze. If you want a respectible place post the the Christian Monitor Reading Room.

Luv DeSlutz
08-16-03, 09:54
Gentlemen,

What we have here is a failure to communicate. Not by you two engaging in your heated debate, by rather by those such as myself who lurk in the background when in fact we could put an end to some of this quibbling if we simply stated our position.

The current topic is: Is there drug dealing neat Marcet ?

The registration prosess is simple, I just did it. I urge the rest of you who have been to Marcet recently to express yourselves, I did not say express your OPINION.

We need facts.

If you were there please tell us yes or no about drug dealing within two blocks of the place.

For myself the answer is NO. I stop by frequently and have never observed anyone dealing or even looking like a dealer.

BTW I don't want to have any further replies from either of those two who have already made their positions clear.

J Burb
08-16-03, 23:52
Originally posted by DeeUncola
A "lack of friction"? How would you know unless.....I do not even want to think about it! Please tell us you did not actually enter this woman, in that condition. Unfortuneately I only realized after pulling out and thats what upset me. I am always well stocked with the recommended hygene and disinfectant products however.

J Burb
08-17-03, 00:01
I had an extremely bad experience with a SW in Paterson this past Sat morning and felt I must post the details to warn others on the board of this girl. Kind of a long but should be entertaining at the very least. Take note of this girls description because she is one to avoid at all costs.

SAT 6 am: Apparently I waited too long and the pickins dried up with the daybreak so I had to settle on this girl I had passed up earlier on Van Houten. Actually she wasnt too bad, had a tall sexy streamlined figure, either dark hispanic or mixed black, semi short wild hair and a 4+ face at best with heavily painted lips and brows. She looked in her late 30's, was a little beat up and worn, and had a crazy look in her eyes but I ignored it. She also had some type of throat problem like laryngitis or something because her voice was a hoarse wisper and she had difficulty forming strait coherent sentances as well.

Anyways, all was going well initally, we found a safe spot, made the appropriate small talk, and I flashed her the the Jackson we agreed apon and kicked back. She insisted on the green upfront which wasnt a problem because we already parked and a HJ had been well underway. She then suddenly decides to backpeddle on the deal after getting the money and tells me that she gets .50 to 100 for FS , whining about how she desperately needs more money to get out of town fast. When I said I simply didnt have it she became agitated and didnt believe me and proceeded to tear through every possable nook and cranny of my vehicle like a paranah. (She was obviosly fiending heavily from a crack lull, I've seen it before). I'm like WAIT A MINUTE!!! and tried to to restrain her hands from exploring further but she just got vicious when I touched her and kept searching anyway, convinced I had more money somwhere. Luckily I hide my wallet well enough and wasnt too worried about it, but I did begin to feel rather violated and annoyed.

When it became clear this trick wasnt going to happen , I asked her to get out of my car immeadiately, but she refused and demanded a ride back to town. I said "only if she returned the money" but she made it clear her junkie hands were not about to part with any newly found crack fund and guarded it like a snarling dog. She had even threatened to cut me up at one point if I tryed anything. I gave her my own ultimatum however, either she immeadiately exit the car voluntarily or I would physically remove her but she only threatened to scream and make a scene if I tryed. We were in a bad spot to risk that and she knew it. I couldnt just drive off either because I was in the back and she was blocking my only access to the drivers seat as she pilaged through the front, so I had no choice but to diffuse the situation by attempting to negotiate with this crazy crack ***** and do it her way. I calmly told her I just simply wanted her out of my vehicle at this point and would be willing to write off the money and give her a ride back to town if she just settled down. This seemed to work so I got back behind the wheel of my car and drove. Thinking she had me by the balls now, not only did she greedily continue to press me for more money, she then had the nerve to demand a ride to her dealer claiming she'd be fine after another fix and willing to provide for an additional .10 but was'nt interested and only sensed a setup. Still, I played along anyway just for the moment with a plan in mind.

This is where the tables turned. I quickly veered off coarse down a long abandoned industrial street that I spotted on the way in as she fought to grab the wheel. I slammed the brakes hard and pry her hands off. Having gained the upper hand at this point I again offered her to "Take the Money or the Ride" but she still stubbornly wanted both and refused to get out telling me some sob story about how she was a poor unmedicated homeless schitzophrenic on the verge of a nerviuos breakdown and thinking she could scare me by saying "bring me to the police station then". I had no sympathy or patience left for anymore games and just started yelling "GET OUT! GET OUT!" as I beat my fist repeatadly on the console letting her know I meant buisiness. She then starts flipping out frantically grabbing at loose change and whatever else she could find accusing me of taking her crack and personal belongings. Huh? Just a desperate diversion tactic I'd imagine or maybe a more outward symptom of her mental illness. Whatever the case, I was completely fed up at this point and finally reached over, opened the door and began shoving her out, but it was'nt easy. She clung to me and the car like glue, latching on to anything she could, screaming and threatening to call the cops the whole time. I finally had to resort to a good hard shove with both feet which broke her kung fu grip and ejected her a couple of yards onto the pavement and boy did it feel good! I had to drive off quickly too because she was still trying to get back in the car, grabbing at the passenger seatbelt as I pulled away. What an endless nightmare!

I could have stayed and still recovered my money I suppose, and part of me definately wanted to, just out of principle, but I know it would have only been met with violent resistance and I didnt want to escelate the struggle to such a level over 20 bucks and some loose change. Besides I would have risked more time that a cop could have drove up on us and know I would probably have gotten the blame for the black eyes she already had from some prior incident. (likely from some pimp or another bad deal she made). I was just glad to part ways and be done with her and considered any loss the cost of a valuable lesson. I was at least able to take some satisfaction in knowing she had a good long walk ahead of her and know how badly she didnt want to be left in that nieghborhood. I'm convinced part of her desperation for the ride was because someone was out looking for her, but thats her bad karma and not my problem.

J Burb

IntotheMuck
08-17-03, 21:40
JBURB,

THAT SOUNDED LIKE A REAL DICEY SITUATION! READING YOUR POST, I WAS THINKING THAT I WOULD HAD GOTTEN VERY PHYSICAL RIGHT AWAY IN GETTING HER OUT.

OF COURSE ALL OF THAT IS "MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACKING." SOUNDS LIKE YOU HANDLED YOURSELF VERY WELL. WELL DONE. FOLLOW YOUR INSTINCTS NEXT TIME. USUALLY WHEN YOU PASS THEM BY THE FIRST TIME, THERE IS A REASON FOR IT.

Buffalo Bill
08-18-03, 10:16
Originally posted by Wooly
Thanks Rebro,

I too have lots of problems with Deuncouth. Perhaps I should feel sorry for him, it is clear he has difficulty making friends and has no life other than his feeble postings here. He has a problem and is in need of serious mental help.

But his constant sense of superiorty, his know-it-all attitude, his resentment and hostility toward those who post useful reports, here I specifically mean Buffalo Bill and John Y Doe as well as myself, his total lack of touch with reality, and mostly his sheer nastiness make him intolerable.

His bonehead errors - strip bars in Clifton - Vic's being in Newark- and many others which I would find if I read more than the first line of his posts are actually cute.

I might be able to ignore the fact that his reports are mostly rehashes of what someone else has posted at another site and usually he gets a fact or two wrong, if he would stop attaching his useless 'analysis' to each of my reports. He always misstates that which I have said and usually reiterates the same useless crap that made no sense the first few hundred timed he said it. I wonder if I could report him for spam after he constantly posts and reposts his inane SUBJECTIVE rating system.

I suspect that by attaching his remarks to my posts he is attempting to cloke himself in an aura of respectibility, but I find it demeaning to be in association with him.

Let's see what remarks the parasits will attach to this post.

Boy! That parasite really had a lot of useless garbage to attach to your excellent post.
Like you and Rebrobate, I too do not like Dee. In addition to the reasons you mention, I would add that he simply does know when to cut off his feeble reports. Like the Ever-ready weasel he just keeps going and going and going and....................

I noticed that he really enjoys when you and I disagree ( I accidently read some of the crap ). Well here's another point where we disagree. You incorrectly said that his reports usually contain an error or two. I disagree. His reports ALWAYS contain one or more errors.

Buffalo Bill
08-18-03, 11:14
Originally posted by Buffalo Bill
Did you or did you not ask about Ragtime ? I gave you an accurate first hand report on a place you asked about. Sorry the truth offends you. That's your problem. I don't see what I did wrong.
I like Attractive, Young women. I beleive that I am entitled to my opinion and especially when asked have a right to express it. You have a rigth to your opinion, but not to make a fool of yourself by belittling my response to your question.
I have been to Vic's. I don't like it ! Is that OK with you ?
I beleive its the Christian Science reading room. Yes, I have been there. I do like it. They publish an excellent paper.

Rebrobate,
I had to quote this in order to bring it to the fore. It seems that there is so much useless blathering on this board that useful posts get buried under the dung. I would like an answer.

IntotheMuck
08-18-03, 12:47
let it go boys..........just let it go.

Luv DeSlutz
08-18-03, 14:02
Originally posted by intothemuck
let it go boys..........just let it go.

Great suggestion/

Let's hope that Dee can control his venom.

Wooly
08-18-03, 15:59
Originally posted by J Burb
I had an extremely bad experience with a SW in Paterson this past Sat morning and felt I must post the details to warn others on the board of this girl.

J Burb This is an much appreciated post and I recomment that those of you who haven't yet read it to scroll down through the muck to find and read it. Sooner or later we will all get into an unwelcome situtation and here is a way out. Thanks

Has this postponed your visit to MickyDee's. Many of us are waiting for your review once you've been there.

J Burb
08-18-03, 16:28
Originally posted by intothemuck
JBURB,

THAT SOUNDED LIKE A REAL DICEY SITUATION! READING YOUR POST, I WAS THINKING THAT I WOULD HAD GOTTEN VERY PHYSICAL RIGHT AWAY IN GETTING HER OUT.

OF COURSE ALL OF THAT IS "MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACKING." SOUNDS LIKE YOU HANDLED YOURSELF VERY WELL. WELL DONE. FOLLOW YOUR INSTINCTS NEXT TIME. USUALLY WHEN YOU PASS THEM BY THE FIRST TIME, THERE IS A REASON FOR IT. My definate urge was to get physical right away, especially when she threatened to cut me up, but I have a cooler head than that and was confident I could adequitely defend myself at any moment if need be so never felt in any real danger and reserved any extreme action only as a last resort. I was more concerned with the scene it may have caused and any potential hassles with LE, so I felt I took the best possable option by using maximum restraint and waiting for the right moment to eject her.

Besides, although her behavior may have justified more force and she was definately pressing my paitence, I really didnt want to hurt or injur her in any way and had no contempt for her what so ever. I recognized she was just a sad mentally ill crack addict who was desperate for money and I knew I was equally responsible for being in the situation by picking her up in the first place. Picking up SW's always runs some kind of risk and I agree, I should have trusted my instincts when I passed her up the first time.

J Burb

dirtmonger
08-18-03, 16:37
Dear Deeuncola, BB and others, Cut the shit, the board is for getting useful info about the different areas mongers go, not for this petty Bull shit.

One had to to go through countless post's to read something that happended to Jburb.

I value my time and don't need to read the BS bickering.

Dear Jackson, you say you review the post's, then when Deeuncola and others waste your's other's as well as mine, then don't bother posting, this way they'll stop and go back to reporting.

Sorry guy's, just had to vent, I'm sick of seeing new post's only to read this bull shit.

Rebrobate218
08-18-03, 21:38
Wooley,

Again, I do owe you and apology. I went to Mickey Dee's over the week end. I think it is a great little bar for what it is. I went there early Saturday and had fun. Later that night a batch party came in and the good looking girls were taking care of business in the back two at a time. The place is sleaze but fun can be had. After a while my buddy and I went to the Moonlight, but got lost along the way. The area of Paterson is so bad it did make me a little nerves. They way I've lived my life very little scares me. So again you're right, Sorry. We had plans to hook up with two dancers after hours and came back to the club. It did not work out because they could not stay out all night due to there adult kids. After 11 the area was, (no words to discribe it).

Moonlight is not what it used to be but it can still be fun. I was told by one of the dancers that the club fired the best dancers and so most of the regular guys stopped coming. She was hoping that things would turn around for the winter. They do not allow wall dances in the back near the closet and juke box. There must be some kind of ABC or LE crack down. A couple of the dancers were willing to party in a Hotel after hours. Nothing like the old Moonlight, but it's OK.

Vic's early on a Saturday afternoon was dead. There were less than a dozen guys and about 6 dancers. More dancers came in but and eventually more guys did come in. A dancer told me that white guys were there bread and butter. During the work week the working guys or business men (black or white) who come in for a quick beer and extras during the day are their money. The homeboys are not going to pay for laps like Joe Citizen will. Also, the club no longer whats dances going on behind the video machines. Must be some kind of crack down. The club picked up around 3. But it was still not Vic's of a Friday afternoon. Still, it was completely off the hook, the best there is.

There are now private dances at the Bottoms up during the day. The place is still dead and only good for a cool down beer after leaving Vic's. Some college kid was fingering a dancer on stage before going back to the private dance area.

I am now convinced that you must be a regular to have a good time at Marcet. Every dancers there is really cautious with new faces. Too slow for any real action.

Finally Caberet is still a money pit. The dancers were some of the biggest gals I've seen in a long time. The minute you walk in you are assaulted by them for a buck. Did not see anything going on in the bar. May FS can be had in the place but I did not see it. Believe me when I say that if there is ever a Powder Puff Pro Football Legue....this club can supply some quality linebackers.

Again, Wooley, I've been to some pretty shitty places all over the world in service to Uncle Sam, and that part of Paterson did make me a little bit cautious after 11. When you are right your right.

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AsianLvr
08-18-03, 21:43
I agree with you Muck. These guys need to cut the crap and stick to business. If you need to keep bashing each other's skulls in please do it thru e-mail and not on this
board. Nuf said.

Rock on, rock hard!

K

Rebrobate218
08-18-03, 22:35
Bill,

You did nothing wrong, I did. I was the guy saying no more personal attacks and I made a personal attack. I like sleaze, that’s not good nor bad it is just a fact. It is clear that you do not like sleaze. Again a fact. You gave a info about Ragtime, and I should have said thanks, but no thanks. Instead I made a joke about you, SORRY. I again think this should be an info exchange. I have learned so much from this board that I have a great time every time I come back to NJ. So I should not have attacked you. Because I like to hang out I have info to give, just ask. Again, Sorry.

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IntotheMuck
08-19-03, 00:01
DeeUncola,

SURE THAT IS ACCEPTABLE......AND REASONABLE.

WE ARE ALL PRETTY MUCH HERE FOR THE SAME THING AND WE CAN LEARN A LOT OF STUFF IF WE DON'T GET SIDETRACKED.

Buffalo Bill
08-19-03, 10:02
Originally posted by Rebrobate218
Bill,

You did nothing wrong, I did. I was the guy saying no more personal attacks and I made a personal attack. I like sleaze, that’s not good nor bad it is just a fact. It is clear that you do not like sleaze. Again a fact. You gave a info about Ragtime, and I should have said thanks, but no thanks. Instead I made a joke about you, SORRY
. Thanks![/blue][/size] Your response shows real class. You are an asset to this board.

Wooly
08-19-03, 12:25
It looks to me that both Buffalo and Rebro are class acts !

J Burb
08-19-03, 17:17
Originally posted by Wooly
This is an much appreciated post and I recomment that those of you who haven't yet read it to scroll down through the muck to find and read it. Sooner or later we will all get into an unwelcome situtation and here is a way out. Thanks

Has this postponed your visit to MickyDee's. Many of us are waiting for your review once you've been there. I'm glad someone at least caught it, I was dissapointed to see a post I had put so much work into quickly get buried by an absurd flame war that no one else cares about but its own participants. Prime example why that crap wastes everyones time and ultimately makes anyone involved look foolish in my opinion. Hopefully it wont persist. Rise above.

As for Mickey Dee's, any day now. Perhaps even by the weekend. Problem is I often roll into Paterson too late and assume they close at 2am like everthing else in Jersey. Don't they?

J Burb

Rebrobate218
08-19-03, 22:43
Dee,

You have no idea as to how good you have it living in NJ. My buddy and I did the dirt in Vic's and we did the dirt in Mickey Dee's. I did not spend enough time in Caberet to do a good evaluation on the place. The dancer where big to say the least. I spent my time talking to a Brizilian who had to be 45 at the least. I did not have a good time in the bar but this was just a recon for me. At both Vic's and Moonlight there was evidence of some kind of crackdown by the powers that be. I found girls at the Moonlight who were willing to go out after the bar closed, and some that stated they were hot to make money. At the Moonlight I did have a good time, although not the good times of old. I would like to know what is going on in NNJ, and how to benefit from it?

Luv DeSlutz
08-20-03, 10:46
Dee,

Did you consider calling the # yourself before posting it here ?

J Burb
08-22-03, 13:17
Originally posted by DeeUncola
Some dancer gave me this phone number at a bar. I will not mention which bar or the circumstance. It was a while back.

I wanted to give this info privately to JBurb but I appriciate the thought Dee but know anything out of a club would likely be beyond my budget and I've just become too accoustomed to getting FS at LD prices. I'm a chaep bastard when it comes to this sort of thing and reguard finding the lowest possable bargian an equal part of the challange. I even object to having to pay for dinner and a movie in normal dating situations which I have no shortage of. So unless this girl quoted you less than .30 for the works, I regretfully must pass.

Thanks anyway:

J Burb

Rebrobate218
08-22-03, 18:53
While is was in NJ I did visit Mickey D's of course. While trying to get from Mickey D's to the Moonlight I got lost and drove around that very bad n'hood. I ran into a place called Gina's go-go or something like that. I just drove past and did not go in. If anyone has any info about the place please share.

Damian
08-23-03, 10:27
I'm new to the area of Paterson. I was wondering about the action at Marcet. It seems a little small for any on site action. I was also curious about the adjacents clubs at the other end of Market St such as Baby Dolls. I haven't walked inside yet but will be visiting soon. How the on site action.

Thanks for any help.

J Burb
08-23-03, 18:27
MICKEYS DEES:

Alright guys,

I finally made it there last night (Friday) and had a pigishly fun time. Although its about the most low budget setup I've ever found and its dancers were substandard in comparison to anywhere else, it was an expected trade off that was easily overloloked once you realized your value for a dollar in this place. I got there just before 10pm so only stayed for about an hour, but did manage to grope almost every girls pussy, ass, and tits in the place, as well as nurse a drink all for under 20 dollars. These were'nt quicky little feels either, each girl came around the bar and sat with me at some point. Of the five girls there I'd say only one was really putrid and she basically got paid off to leave me alone. The rest at least had enough redeeming qualities to warrent some attention. One particular latina I'd rate at least a 7 with a perfect tight body. The girls had such thick accents and unusual names, I cant recall them, but I had the most fun with this vuluptious early 40's girl from Newark with long blond hair.

I sucked her tits and fingered her while she gave me open hand pulls (out of pants) at the bar and kissed my neck. She offered to suck it but I declined and never got a back room price quote. I did ask another monger who just got serviced about prices though, and he confirmed .20 for the room and anywhere between .40 and .70 for extras depending on the girl. I also saw three guys go into the back room with a single girl at one point, which seemed unusual, but only reinforced a relaxed policy. I dont know if they paid extra for the room. Of the ten or so guys at the bar, most were white which I didnt expect. Also reguardless of it being a low class establishment, I must compliment its cleanliness . A couple of quick peeks in the back room as the door opened also revealed what looked to be some suprisingly welcome and comfortable accomodations for servicing.

BELMONTE:

Now onto the neighborhood, because I know its what some of you really want to hear about. Let me first say that ones perception of an area is highly subjective and can only be reguarded as opinion, so theres no wrong answers here and no need to dispute one another about it. Everyone has thier own subliminal prejudices and conclusions about what they see and comfort levels in araes will always differ with the individual. Having said that, here is my "OPINION".

I've been on Belmonte both during the day and late evining as well as early morning, so have witnessed many aspects of it. My observation is that it is a tatered, but probably mostly working class neighborhood, and not necissarily and unsafe area to be in most of the time. However, just enough riff raff comes out of the woodwork and rears its ugly head between Mickey Dee's and Checkers Chicken by late evining to tarnish the whole neighborhoods image. One of the dancers was even telling me that Mickey Dee's closes early primarily for that reason. She also went on to say shes never encountered a single problem with any locals there during her employment though. You will definately see a few dealers and hookers out after hours, but the place is not overrunned by them and they only seem to congregate on this small section of Belmonte. You'll find the surrouding neighborhood to be rather quiet if you ever veer off the main drag. The scene also cleans up rather quickly if you continue down further down Belmonte. (How far you need to drive to get out of the thick of anything is important)

In conclusion, although I know it's not the best area and proceeded with caution, I was never too worried while parked at Mickey Dee's and experienced no problems in or out of the bar. I think the locals know not to interfere with business's there. Although I don't consider Belmonte a dangerous strip to drive down at any time (unlike some streets in Paterson), I do recognize it changes later in the evining and I would definately NOT want to walk down it. I think my real threshold of safety is how safe I feel in my vehicle. One can always lock thier doors and drive away from any scene, but I never got that creepy carjack feeling while cruizing there.

J Burb

J Burb
08-23-03, 21:40
Originally posted by DeeUncola
J Burb.

Wow! A truly great standard! Where do you get these LD FS women.I was referring to SW's Dee, I seem to have established a .30 maximum setback with them but more often pay even less.

J Burb

StealthMode
08-26-03, 12:24
I'm in a slump, LOL.

I've drove through Dover. I've seen a few there but never indulged. Now I can't find anything.

Paterson, not finding anything I like and when I finally do it's either taken, I've cruised too long and gotta leave or you wonder if it's too good to be true.

Best action I've had to date was a daytime run to Showplace. In the booth the very tall blonde Ruskie wouldn't stop when I asked and made me blow one in my pants. LOL

SM

J Burb
08-26-03, 18:01
PATERSON SWEEPS ?

After Mickey Dee's on Friday I went out on the hunt and am certian LE was doing sweeps. I saw several pull overs throughout the evening and only spotted about half a dozen obvious SW's all night which was unusually skimpy for a Friday. I've been told by a few SW's that LE warns them prior to sweeps and only the most desperate or uninformed stay out, so I was suspicious.

At one point something major happened on Van Houten at the same corner many girls usually work because every available patrol car in the area raced over and had someone surrounded. I saw some undercovers riding around too. The Caprices are easy to spot but be wairy of any Expeditions, especially ones with blacked out tinted windows. I've seen them used in busts before and definately saw a black one out Friday night. I was certian because I could see the police lights through the grill. I suspect they have them in other colors too but can't confirm. (silver and burgendy perhaps)

If this were'nt enough, I later saw a single lone SW midway down Market that looked just to good to be true. She was a gorgeous well kept light black girl with long strait hair that I've never seen before. Although dressed in an appetizing mini skirt, she looked more like she just came from a banquet, not the projects and I sensed her confident appearance was a more of a contrived effort. Not only was her body language slightly off, she made no effort to scan for interested mongers like most SW usually do. I saw a couple vehicles pull over for her but they quickly moved on. Such a gem would usually be scooped up immeadiately in Paterson on a busy Friday but not this one. Her story was later confirmed by the plain cloths white officer waiting two paralell streets over with his gun belt and holster openly displayed. I'm sure he was'nt the only cop near by either.

I cant say of the stops I saw on Friday how many had anything to do with prostitution, but I'm sure some did. I also cant say if this is part of a newly increased effort or just something LE does once in a while, but I do know Paterson was certianly hot this particular night. So be cautios my fellow mongers.

J Burb

StealthMode
08-27-03, 14:14
Originally posted by DeeUncola
What is the Dover scene?

Are they on 46? West or East? Where?

What street? And is there a bar next to their strolls, where one could meet them in less threatening circumstances?



It's very sporadic and few and far between. I've gotten the look and wave. Here is where I believe I spotted them.

N. Warren through to N. Bergen between E. Clinton and Blackwell.

There is a boarding house near the corner of N Bergen and Richards that holds promise.

Seen some potential cash strapped one walking between bar near corner of Warren and Clinton to the Quick Check on Warren.

Got some good feedback on a drive by from a potential by the time I got around to the trainstation she boarded a train which was empty and went and parked. I'm hoping that at least the crew got serviced that evening. She was cute!

Mostly black, a couple Latina and White.

Haven't gotten pricing info. You can go there 7 nights and you might find something one night. Most I've ever seen out in a 3 hour stretch is 3 potential providers. Best hours I've seen are 9P - 2A

SM

StealthMode
08-27-03, 14:19
J Burb,

I've also seen the Burgandy Caprice. They used to also use PSEG and Verizon trucks. I used to see that around the Broad street loop. I haven't noticed it around Market though there is one day I suspected it and the next thing I know, two PSEG trucks are flying down the street.

Saw an SUV today, Ford with blue lights in the grill. Was this just a Firefighter or could this have been popo as well?

There was an unmarked today w/ light on the dash furiously cruising and making busts. The enviroment was quickly reduced in my mind and I was outta there.

SM

J Burb
08-27-03, 21:54
Originally posted by DeeUncola
Excellent!

The 40 year old - I assume bleached - blonde from Newark. Was she a chunky one named Susannah? Was she latina, or Brazilian. If she was Suzannah, she is Brazilian, chunky but in more of a zaftig way and she is in late 40s.

Did you see the French girl?She did have a heavy accent and was speaking fluent spanish with the other dancers but I could not determine by her light complexion and features if she was Latina or Brazilian. Not thin, but wouldnt say chunky either. It all depends on how you look at it. I'd saw an ideal full healthy womanly figure, I like em slightly thick though.

Dont know about the French girl, the only one that could have been her was another 40 something blond with short hair and a bubble ass. I'll make sure and get the names next time.

J Burb

J Burb
08-27-03, 22:09
Originally posted by stealthmode
J Burb,

I've also seen the Burgandy Caprice. They used to also use PSEG and Verizon trucks. I used to see that around the Broad street loop. I haven't noticed it around Market though there is one day I suspected it and the next thing I know, two PSEG trucks are flying down the street.

Saw an SUV today, Ford with blue lights in the grill. Was this just a Firefighter or could this have been popo as well?

There was an unmarked today w/ light on the dash furiously cruising and making busts. The enviroment was quickly reduced in my mind and I was outta there.

SM Glad to see I'm not the only monger reporting on this area. I'm sure theres probably more lurking in the background too because I've learned to spot you in my travels just as easily as the SW's. So come foward and join us my devious friends. LOL!

As for the SUV's I saw, I'd say more likely LE than firefighter, just because of where and when I saw them. Perhaps yours too. (Unless firefighters like getting some SW action, you never know.) But I did actually see one once in a bust once, so I have little doubt.

Pardon my ignorance Stealth, but what is a PSEG?

J Burb

StealthMode
08-28-03, 13:29
Originally posted by J Burb

Pardon my ignorance Stealth, but what is a PSEG?

J Burb

Public Service Electric and Gas. The local util. co.

White vans with orange stripe.

Speaking of mongers. I saw what looked like a monger on a motorcycle. He was making the loops and staring in all the right directions and at the right people. He didn't have a 2nd helmet though. How can he pick any up?

SM

Phatso
08-28-03, 17:47
Hi there,

Long time but still working. Any new FS AMP in the Bergen area? Other than the one on 46? I go usually to Conn. but rather stay in the area.

Write back guys and we can trade. I heard of a new place in Franklin Lakes and Bergenfield.

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions for capitalization and punctuation. To avoid future delays, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!

AsianLvr
08-30-03, 11:06
Phatso,

Having been to the MP in Franklin Lakes/North Haledon this past week I can provide the following:

The place is in the lower level of an office building near High Mountain and Sicomac. After paying the usual door fee of $.6 to a slim, flat chested, Korean woman in her mid 30's I was led into a nice sized room. She asked if I would like a drink (she offered water, soda or wine) and I accepted the latter. She then apologized for not being able to allow me to select my masseuse because they were busy and only had one girl to choose from at that time.

I was told to make myself comfortable and Nicola would be in shortly. A few minutes later a short little Russian woman entered and introduced herself as Nicola. She was a touch past 30 with dirty blond hair and green eyes. I was offered the table shower which I accepted. I had a feeling this was going to be your average session when, during the course of the shower, she avoided cleaning my best parts.

After that, I got to dry myself off and was led back to the room to "get comfortable". After a half hour of an average massage with no teasing she asked if I wanted "anything else". When I asked about FS she looked at me funny and said she would give a nude HJ for a $. I declined by telling her I only had $.3 on me. She reluctantly agreed to do a topless hj for that price. I guess she thought something is
better then nothing.

After having my fun I was allowed to shower up by myself, got dressed and said my goodbye's. On my way out the Korean woman at the front desk gave me a card and told me after 10 visits I get the 11th free. Big deal, I'm not going back anytime soon. I'll stick to my usual place in Passaic Park where I know what I'll get and how much it will cost before I even go in.

Happy Hunting,

K

HamBone
09-02-03, 06:32
Are there any sit-down type adult movie theatres in the area? (As opposed to video booths).

J Burb
09-02-03, 22:00
About a month ago in Paterson during a moment of indescretion a certian .20 SW allowed me to take a pic of her pussy. I got a shot of her walking away as well. Now that Jackson has implemented photo uploading I feel compelled to share. Please excuse the poor quality of the pic (and SW), I have a cheap ass digital cam that didnt flash but it should be enough to get the idea. (and to verify what a pig I am) LOL!

J Burb

John from NJ
09-04-03, 14:18
Went to Mickey D’s last night for the first time. Not a great neighborhood but I had no problems. Parked in the side lot and tipped the brother who appeared to be the ‘main man’ a couple of bucks on the way out. The bar was surprisingly clean with predominantly white middle age customers. Unfortunately it closes early; 9:00pm Mon, Tues, Wed; 11:00 on Thur, Fri, Sat.

When I arrived at 8:20pm there were three dancers. A Blond and Latino who where 40ish but better then average in looks and a grandmother (she actually talked about her grandkids). Had a $3 beer, got some nice dollar gropes from the blond and Latino and BSed with granny until the place closed. I will have to check out the back room on the next visit, did not have enough time last night

Headed down to the Moonlight at 9:00pm for the first time in months. Not jumping as in the old days but no surprises either. About six dancers were working most above average in looks. Invested $10 in each of four dancers who all gave acceptable grinds. Then chose one for some more serious action. Mild tip/drink pressure and a sleaze level of 6. Still the most consistent bar in Paterson.

John from NJ
09-04-03, 14:22
I tried the 5th Ave Sport Bar last week. The bar is located in an industrial section of town with easy parking right in front. About a dozen Brazilian / Latino and a couple of Russian dancers were working last Wed. Most were in the 5+ range in looks and no grandmothers. They don’t do lap dances. The format is ‘let’s sit and have a drink while we grope each other’. The first lady I spent time with was drunk, high or not quite right in the head. Unfortunately I did not realize this until I brought her a drink. The second dancer I spent time with was a nice looking and pleasant Brazilian. She constantly kept tabs on the bartenders and very thing stopped when one approached. Overall the contact level was a 5- but YMMV because a Russian dancer was very active with a customer a little further down the bar. Not a bad place but considering I like the LD format at the Moonlight better and the pressure for drinks and dollar tips was the same as one finds at Guys I’ll stay with the downtown clubs.

OneEye
09-13-03, 14:16
Paterson Crack-Head-asuarious.
Holy Crap.....Im glad to be after this evening.
IT started out innocently enough, was going to Cabaret, upon getting to the club I was approached by a female independently
Employed street walking Crack head. (Although I did not know it at the time. but I suppose I should have known better)

B.T.W. A possible new scale for Crackwhore facial looks!!
This one looked like she fell out of the Crack pipe tree about 8 times too many.
As with any of my popular scales, they go 1-10.
Always 10 being top of the scale.

Anyhow, we get back to my car(1st mistake) and find a place to do the deed. got into BBBJ for a little bit, then she says we can go to her place, and I agreed (2nd mistake)
Mind you all the while she seemed perfectly normal.
Her directions were poor, always sayin"turn here" without indicating left or right.
Stopped for cigarettes, of course I had to give her 2 bucks for them
but what the hell. Ok so were on the way to her home, she sayin
turn here, tunere, turn there, before I know it this white boy is knee deep in Scarey lookin black folk.
She jumps out and says shell be right back.
(Now this is where I F***K-UP - I should have just left the ***** there and split, but NOOOOOOOooooooooooo. I had to wait for her. she got back into the car, she's givin me her directions
turn here, turn there, then I discovered the Crack Pipe in her
hand.
She proceeded to fire the shit up in my car, im tellin her hey "hey
dont smoke that shit here dammit" but she ignorres me does it anyway.
So know the only thing left to do is figure out how to ditch the
*****.
I tried a couple of time of just stopping and and reching over and opening the door and saying"ok were here" but that didnt work,
and she would sart resisting.
So I didnt want a scene in middle of Patterson at midnight, god only knows where the po-po's are at. my luck shell be makin a scene just as one goes by or something.
So basically my strategy is to drive, stop, and try to get the ***** out.
This s**t went on for about 45 minuets.
All the while the ***** is going through post crack high paranoia
and twitchin and pulling on things.
Finally I found some liquor store where there were a bunch of
cars parked in front, enough to me out of sight from the front
of the store, and make her feel comfortable enough to get out
of the car.
Actually she didn’t want to get out, but what I did was made sure the windows were down a bit, I shut of the car, making damn sure I had the keys with me, I went around and opened the door for her and she stepped out a bit, but was still standing in the corner of the door. I had a bit of a tug of war with her till
I finally was able to get enough clearance to lock the door and shut it.
she was babbling something to me and I was saying "yeah" an ""ok". made it into my drivers seat, and finally pulled away.

And man oh man does my car smell like a junkie's parlor now.
whew. That s**t stinks.


After that I just opened the windows and drove straight away,
I ended up in Haledon, and drove past "slappys" so I went in there for a bit. Nice place but deader than a doornail.
had myself a drink, then left.

Here is the best part of this story....Im trying to get my bearings
to find my white ass home, so I basically drove back the way I came, went through Patterson again, and at one intersection
I see her there. shes doin the post crack high twitchin and pullin
on herself shit still.
I just sunk down into my seat and prayed for the lisht to turn
green ASAP . it did and I tore off from there.

Went to Cabaret, the place I originally intended on going to in the first place, had my fun, Got some hand pull's, busted my nut and got the hell out that Friggin town.

So J.Burb you aint the only one dude.
Later all.

Buffalo Bill
09-13-03, 16:09
Rebrobate,
Here's a long delayed response to your question regarding "Gina's".
After checking with usually reliable sources I can state that it is extremely unlikely that there is a "Gina's" in Paterson or surronding areas, so I'll go with my initial reaction.
The place you saw was "Diva's" which is at 237 Haledon Ave. in Haledon. It is a nice place with young, beautiful Brazilian girls. My kind of place, probabily not yours. I did obtain a phone # which proved most enjoyable the following day.
Actually I've got a pocket full of #s, having hit well more than a dozen spots in the past 10 days. Only one comment; the fuglies have disappeared from Marcet, fewer girls, money lasts longer.
I'll offer you a couple of places in the Newark area which may meet your wants and you may want to check.
After Dark on rt.21 (visable from northbound lane).
Rah-Rah's in Orange.

OneEye
09-14-03, 18:43
to DeeUncola:

Well as for hand pulls at Caberet, Ive never had any trouble getting them there.
Just make sure you have easy access, and no problems.

As for looks, i'd have to say 2 or 3. All girls there musst be at least
20 to 50 pounds overweight. Some more, some less.
only 1 0r 2 hotties in the 8 range.

90% Latina's in there, Brazillian, No White's at all.

Ive never been offered FS there, ive asked many times but never got an o.k. on it.

BJ's same as FS...None.

Its a real Dollar Sinker place, once you walk into the joint you will be attacked by girls for dollor drops in between ther large breasts. You gota get mean and stop that shit right away otherwise all your cash will be gone in no time.

As for my Crackwhore Run-in.
Alot of Lysole and a trip to the Car wash Vaccume claeners was in order. Car is much better now but still got some Ho Stank in it.
Might just have to get some shampoo on the seats.
Damn...its the last time i do that shit in paterson.
I mean really..this shit is too risky, could have had a curious
LE get behind me anytime, and i'd have been screwed and tattooed.

Never had a problem like that in NYC. but then again, cant find any girls in the big town right now anyway.
Which is why i do Asscon and such from now on.


ATTN J.Burb:
I also had a pleasent experience in Sprig Valley a few weeks back.
Cudo's to J.Burb for that, he gave me some crucial 411 on the town. I will Post to the Rockland section later.
I even have some Photos I just might post.

Till then Later All.

Rebrobate218
09-14-03, 21:15
Bill,
You may be right. Haledon borders Paterson so I may have been mistaken about the name.
Thanks for the info about Newark clubs. I’ve been to Afterdark many times. This is a great place for nothing but non stop grinding lap dances. The downside is that most of these Russian dancers are unattractive and all are mercenary. I guess I should not be so hard on them because I don’t have to spend 14 hours a day grinding in a stranger’s lap. Most of the dancers here will go out with you for a quickie in a cheap hotel. They want top dollar for it. The place has really gone down hill since my move to NE. I have never been to Rah-Rah’s but I have heard good things. I have heard that it can be like Vic’s and some Paterson bars. I will surely check it out on my next trip down. There is a bar you may wish to check out. It’s called Emmigrente and its in the Iron Bound section of Newark. The dancers are the most beautiful Brazilians. Most work the go-go scene in NNJ but a few just dance there to pick up a few extra bucks. I think you can meet some very nice dancers there. The downside is that there is very little if any physical contact with the dancers in the bar. I used to date a girl that work in a deli in the City and danced on the week-ends . It’s a nice place.

Hue G. Rection
09-14-03, 23:40
I was trolling Marcet Cafe the other day around 5 and found several girls working. It does appear that several of the uglier and larger women are no longer working there. Still the girls rate 3-4 with an occasional 7. Hand Pulls are common if you can get the seats farthest from the stage. The bartenders tend to overlook any action there. If you sit at the bar you will constantly have to shell out $$ to the girls that walk up and down for tips. Best bet is to sit in the seats along the wall opposite the bar.

I have been there many times and the best action would be to sit on the bench opposite the stage and check out the chicas. When you find one you like, walk to the rail of the stage and stand between the men's room and the ladies room. the dancer's back is to the bar and you can get a nip in the mouth and some good grabs.

I have gotten phone numbers and offered FS after work but never took the girls up on it. Did take a girl from Moonlight to a local motel before her shift for some good 1-1 action. Then dropped her ass off at Moonlight for her shift. Have not been there in several months though.

Will troll some more and post.......

Happy Mongering.

J Burb
09-15-03, 09:37
One Eye,
Unfortunately drug addiction and prostitution go hand in hand so it's statistically only a matter of time that a monger will stumble upon a problem SW. This doesn’t necessarily need to be such a problem however. One simple rule we both ignored was to trust where the girl was taking us. I even read not to do this in an introductory section of this website but had to learn it for myself the hard way, as did you apparently. Many girls will attempt to make you their personal taxi if you allow them.

Although my experience briefly deterred me as well, I soon realized that how these things play out depend more on your decisions than the girls. Initially you have the control because you have the car and you have the money but the moment you give up that money or allow her to start dictating directions, you give up some of that control and certain girls know how to play that like a fiddle. I've also learned to take a firmer stance that falls some where in between "naive trusting white boy" and the pimp who beats her. I’m still respectful but know a girl is less likely to give me shit if she thinks I’m not about to put up with it. “Just say no”. Of coarse scoping out a safe spot prior to mongering has also become standard procedure. Like many things, prevention is key here. Adventurous story though!

I’m glad my Spring Vally directions worked for you, I’ll look for your posts there. If you scroll back a little in Rockland you’ll see another incident where simply stopping for a pack of cigarettes at a place the girl specified got me burned. I think my obvious nervousness was an even bigger factor in that scam however, but be aware of it if you monger there and take note of the girls description because it seems only a small handful of them work that area. Best of luck!

J Burb

NJ's Finest
09-15-03, 10:30
One Eye,
Where is this street that you found yourself "knee-deep" in scary looking black folks? I monger in Central NJ, and farthest north I've been is Newark. I am thinking of driving up to Paterson soon, and I know parts of the city are bad. Therefore I would like to know where this experience took place at so I avoid that set of streets. =) thanks for the info in advance

OneEye
09-15-03, 14:48
DeeUncola:
The Crackwhore was Black as Midnght.
and looked like she was hit with a Crackpipe in the face
a few too many times.

Buffalo Bill
09-17-03, 18:41
To H.G.Reaction;
Marcet girls ae improving mush faster than you seen to indicate. I don't play the numbers but I think I know a little of their meaning. Seven is much too low for a few of the ladies.
I suggest you head back there and ckeck out either:
Desire- A totally caucasian appearing PR beauty. One of the most attractive ladies I've seen anywhere.
Lucy- A dark skinned Brazilian (I think) lovely with caucasian features, only slightly prettier than Holly Berry

StealthMode
09-18-03, 22:28
Met a girl named Denise. I couldn't find anything short notice that I felt safe with parking wise. She has a room avaialable until 1PM.

I have a potential meeting tomorrow pending if I can get out of work.

She is cute, at least a 6. She looked older once she got in the car. Once in the car, I'd say 30ish. Dirty Blond about 5'4". Seemed willing to please. She said that tomorrow maybe we will have to stop for whipped cream.

Saw a very interesting prospect in a pleather skirt. Thought she might have been a copy but made enough loops to see her go into the tracks between Ellison and Broadway where it looked like alot of crackho's and dealinpimps where. Very tall, black hair about a 5.

There is also a girl around 35, glasses hair usually in a but. She has a librarian look sometimes. Today she was in a black jump/skirt outfit. Today I also noticed her sporting a belly. I can't even get this girl to give an acknowledging nod. Very cute and I want a piece if it. Today she was at the phone booths at the interesection of 19th/Market and 35th. I often see her on the corner of the park in front of the school.

The streets between market and Park have been looking good and it's a nice area to pick up. Not busy.

Speaking of the school, I'm paranoid of getting busted for drugs in a school zone of one of these girls is carrying any and we get stopped. Any thoughts on that ?

Hope to have something to report on Denise soon and I believe I may have digits. I'll ask about giving them out.

SM

Hue G. Rection
09-18-03, 22:40
To Buffalo Bill -

I have seen an occasional diamond in the rough there but they have been few and far between. There is a brazilian girl that I saw who was probably an 7 or 8, her name was Wilma. Large rack and a solid, and I mean SOLID ass. I will keep checking back to see the improvements. If I want a looker, I usually have better luck at Guy's vie en rose, but Ursala can suck the dollars out of you faster than you can blink.

Happy Mongering.

I will continue to post what I see and try to get some photos to post.

Later.....

StealthMode
09-19-03, 13:58
Pulled off the meeting.

I'd classify this as taking one for the team. In better daylight she didn't look nearly as good as last night. Very friendly and all, pleasant company.

Went back to her place, saw alot of potential sores on arms and some on chest. Based on that I wouldn't recommend. She smelled me and said there was an odor. I just showered a few hours ago so WTF. She proceeds to wash it w/ some water.

I was already to far into it and thought w/ the little head. BBBJ technique was slow and excellent just wish I could have lasted longer. The room had satellite and adult movies.... not that I needed them. lol

I won't be a repeat visitor. If you choose to partake, get some redi-whip it was fun. :-)

SM

AsianLvr
09-25-03, 06:33
Went to Mickey D's yesterday around 5:30PM and found the place fairly busy. I waited until the owners wife left, around 6, and then proceeded to take 2 girls to the lap dance room for some much needed fun. Total cost for this experience was $120.

John from NJ
09-29-03, 13:08
Went to Mickey D’s on Friday around 6:30. There were more then a dozen dancers (about half were acceptable) and 3-4 customers. I visited the back room and was offer a very extensive and reasonably price menu. It cost me under $.2 to party and drink for two hours. Anyone into the Paterson Go-Go bars has to try this place.

If the ladies are not flashing or allowing grouping they are behaving because the owner is in the house. Save your tip money. Buy a beer and have a seat at one of the tables along the wall. Tips/drinks are only solicited at the bar and you will know when the owner leaves. The atmosphere changes completely.

The format is easy; pick out a lady, buy her a drink & tip her a few bucks while you group each other. Once she is convinced you are not LE the conversation will turn to what extras are available. I went for a .40$ + .20$ for the house BJ. Even sitting at the bar is fun. The tip/drink hustle is relatively low, most of the ladies speak enough English to carry on a conversation and will sit and BS with you. After coming out of the back room I had a lady on each side of me trying to bring my tool back to life for the price of two drinks and an occasional round of dollar tips when a dancer came by.

John from NJ
10-01-03, 17:40
DeeUncola

Was offered FS for .6$ but I’m partial to BJs. The cute French girl was there and a couple other acceptable ladies. Of course the grandma from Wayne & a few a few of her friends were also there. Spent most of my time with Teresa a decent looking 45ish Brazilian with firm tits, flat hard abs. and curly shoulder length hair. She was fun at the bar and in the back room. Teresa can hold up her end of a conversation and also dances at Guy’s.

Have any info on where to go for ‘take out’ and prices?

J Burb
10-02-03, 22:32
Anybody know what the street action in Paterson is like during the winter months? Are there significantly less SW's out in the cold or do most just bundle up and keep hookin?

Thanks: J Burb

John Y. Doe
10-03-03, 22:24
To: J Burb

The following has been an annual event for years & years. Once the weather turns cold for a stretch, the drug addicted SW's head straight for the detox & rehab facilities. The faciilities keep the girls off the streets for about 16 weeks, after which time they return to street walking & drugs. (The detox is only a few days, the rehab is often required or desired post-detox.)

Seeking the indoor warmth of rehab facilities has been a pattern throughout NJ & NY. However, if the weather stays warm throughout the winter, the girls will remain on the streets.

Wooly
10-04-03, 20:04
Another informative post by John Doe. Just one point which John overlooked, or simply didn’t think was worth mentioning. Most of these gals are in essence homeless. The erratic, often anti-social behavior caused by their addiction makes it impossible for anyone even a parent to tolerate them for more than a day at a time. Typically they might be awake, day and night, for days on end, then sleep for a couple of days.

During mild weather its bearable to be outside or in a hallway overnight. As temperatures drop even their chemically desensitized bodies begin to seek the warmth of indoors. Many social outreach programs, as well as police, wanting only to save them from their own stupidity, will find some means to get them into shelters, rehab, or jail.

So its back to John’s point – it will depend on the temperature. But the good news is that come spring, they and an eager new crop will appear even before the robins.

Aye-Spy!
10-05-03, 12:07
Hey DeeUncola,

I haven't seen Regina for ages! I guess she's moved on. Thanks for jogging my memory. For a SW, Regina was a gem. Very naive and eager to please. I regret for not taking her up on the greek offer. Both my regular fishing grounds (Paterson and Washington Heights) have been very very dry of late.

I've gone fishing for months without as much as my bait being nibbled let alone catching a good SW. I've noticed that this tends to be the SW cycle; the streets remain dry for months and then when you least expect it, you hit upon a gem of a SW!

Let's hope that happens sooner rather than later1

Buffalo Bill
10-09-03, 12:39
I've spent some afternoon time in Paterson, being here for a funeral. I have many elderly relatives in Passaic County and may be coming back often for this purpose. I’ve been free at times which are unusual for me and have a few observations;

First point) Apologies to HugG. Reaction. You clearly indicated that your review of Marcet was bases on an afternoon visit, I usually get there at night. You are correct that the quality of the afternoon still leaves much to be desired. The fuglies that I had reported to have disappeared actually moved to the earlier shift. My advice to anyone going there before 9 P.M., wait a least a half hour after eating.
This points out to me the ever-changing nature of strip clubs. I noticed the same phenomimum in reverse at Hi-Beams, where the afternoon gals were more attractive than the nightshift.
Of course my opinion is limited and old. I was there two days ago and only twice, Tuesday and Wednesday afternoons. I really should not proffer opinions on such stale and limited actual experience.

Second point) To J. Berg -- Your question as to cold weather streetwalker activity has been masterfully answered by both John Doe and Wooly. I will mention an experience I had, again Wed. early afternoon as I stopped for cigars at the Walgreen’s near Madison and Broadway. I think it’s actually Ellison, but anyone familiar with the area will know where it is. (Any one unfamiliar with the area should not be mongering there or reporting on it.)
In the parking lot as I entered were two sweet young, perhaps too young, ladies. One was a little chubby, just as I like it, and the other was model-like. As I walked past I gave them my biggest smile along with a warm ‘how ya doing?’. As I exited they were waiting for me and suggested we might have some fun together. Unfortunately I had other commitments and had to decline. Since then I’ve been haunted by their words as I got into my car. ‘Its only ten dollars.’ -- You may want to check this location!!

Next point (I’ve lost count) – Not all SWs are drug addicts. While most in NJ are, I suspect that the two mentioned above were not. In Newark right on drug infested Broadway I frequently find a particular lady who is out a few hours a day while her son is in school. She has proven to be very reliable and versatile. She does not want her information posted here, I’ve asked.
BTW I have not mongered in Paterson for a couple of years; Newark is much more to my liking.

Finally, there is a site called strip club guide dot com which is specifically designed to review these clubs. The information there is much more accurate than what you will find here, although I’ve noticed the map produced there for 5th Ave is as incorrect as the comment that it is around the corner from Tropicana. Of note should be the comments there of the safety of the locations.

Buffalo Bill
10-13-03, 22:21
National---

You know fu*king well that I'm not going to use idiot scales !

But since no one else on this board knows or even cares about this place I'll tell you about where it is.

One way street heading from Main to Getty Aves., on right about mid block. Perhaps four blocks from Madison Ave. toward Clifton.

Beleive it opens at 9 P.M. Ckeck it out for yourself then you can post another hundred useless reports.

Please don't use RED; it hurts the eyes .

John Y. Doe
10-14-03, 04:35
Mr. Bill,

Thank you for another excellent posting (the one on Paterson, dated 10/9.) Also, my condolences to you and your family for the loss of a loved one.

Here are some of my question and comments regarding your Paterson update. First of all, how safe is the Marcet bar after dark for an average size (unprejuciced) white guy? I have avoided the bar after dark because of the Alabama housing projects that are just across Market from the bar? Also, how safe is a parked car near the bar, after dark? (I often wonder why I am afraid of the Marcet after dark, yet not afraid of Mickey D's at any hoiur.)

I agree with your comment, advising inexperienced mongers to avoid searching around Walgreen's (it's around Ellison & 18th.) It is a well run store & is HEAVILY PATROLLED by the local P.D. It is patrolled both inside the store, and outside in the parking lot. My guess is would be a high risk to try to get a SW near the store. When I try, it's not until they are at least a couple of blocks up Madison form the Walgreen's lot. My impression is a lot of girls walk up and down Ellison quickly (to get to or from the place they wnat to crash in for the night.) I esd told that some tenants on Ellison will rent one or more of their apartment rooms to one of more of the girls for $10 cash per night per girl (payable each night). By the way, it may also be why if we catch a local girl on her last call for the night that she may want a few dollars more than usual. For example, if the girl is still a little short on her cash needs (for rent, food, etc.) she may want it from us at the last minute.

Once again, thanks for your Paterson update.

AsianLvr
10-14-03, 06:36
Here we go again. I'll tell you right now, if you two start pissing and moaning about each other's posts I'm going to beat the stuffing out of something.

Cut the whining and stick to business!

Hue G. Rection
10-14-03, 09:36
Stopped by Mickey Dee's yesterday afternoon for a little mongering.

5 Girls working, 1 short round looking like Penguin from the Batman movies, 1 old enough to be someone's great grandmother, and 3 passable brazilians. There was one named Vanya that had a nice rack so I took her in the back. Good hj and bbbj but she kept stopping short of the finish. Was not able to complete with her - a little disappointing. Went back out to the bar and there was another 35-40 brazilian but with a kicking body. Her name was Teresa. I thought about taking her in the back as she was willing.

Kept prodding for the $$ at the bar and I put a few in her pants. Good thing, as she was playing with her self and put her fingers in my face. Can you say .......5 day old TUNA....... Shame for such an awsome tight body, to turn people off with that.

OH well, better luck next time.

Happy mongering.

Wooly
10-14-03, 13:56
I'm sure that Buffalo Bill can answer for himself but here is my opinion. I've been to Marcet dozens of times and consider it to be as safe as any strip bar in Paterson. It is somewhat isolated from the projects and I have seen no spillover. The side street off Market is an extremely quiet well kept residental area.

On the other hand, I don't think MicD is safe in any way, even it it were, there is no reason to go there.

B Bill's directions to National are perfectly clear to those of us who do our mongering in person rather than by computer. No need for a map. Just print Bill's excellent directions and go there in person. That's what I'll do.

Buffalo Bill
10-15-03, 01:37
Look at this activity! Seven postings in one day. Is it a record?

Thanks for the kind words gentlemen. To John y Doe. Look you've just become Spanish.

Let me provide antidotal support for my contention that the area around Marcet is completely safe. A few weeks ago, at the end of August, I literally walked around the block of Marcet at 11:30 at night. I had just lit a quality cigar inside a few moments earlier and when I got to my car there was quite a bit of pleasure still to be puffed. Since I don’t smoke in my car my options were limited to either going back inside, extinguishing it and saving the stub or continuing to savor it right there. Throwing it away is not an option.

Slightly modifying the savor right there option, I had a pleasant stroll while enjoying my stoogie.

Let me point out that I was raised in a hood not quite as bad as the projects across the way and feel at home in places that scare the shit out of most people. I simply act confident, neither cocky nor defensive.

By the way, I can even put on the shiny black duds to enjoy Wagner or Pucinni at the Met, which also scares the shit out of some people.

After bragging of this, I still don’t feel safe around MicDee. My senses tell me I don’t know what to expect from those fellows hanging around (do they still call it chillin?) there.

Wooly
10-15-03, 11:49
Just a quick note to say I followed the directions to National last night. Vague ? As I suspected they are right on the money. One would have to be retarded not to find it. It looked like a dump.

Little Dick
10-15-03, 15:19
Dee,

Why are you so filled with hatred? Get over it! Its hard for me to admit that Buffalo Bill knows more about the art of 'finding woman and getting laid' then I, but that's a fact. I have to live with it. I am amazed as his knowledge and his willingness to share with us.
You have let your attitude overshadow your judgement to wit;

For someone who has posted nearly two hunderd times mainly about Paterson you remain remarkedly unaware of the area.

The area around Marcet can not be called lower class by Paterson standards. It appears to me to be well kept two or three family dwellings. One need not park only near Marcet, in my judgement the further down the block, the safer it becomes.

Getty Ave. is, again by Paterson standards, safer then most, although about two or three years back there was a murder across from Curtniks, just where you assert it is safe.

Forget about the "exact address" just follow directions. Be greatful the someone was kind enough to reply to your plea for assistance. I would have no hesitation about going there at night except that I usually have my oveltine and am in bed before nine.

Don't you think that John Y Doe knows all about the various strolls. Look at the quality of his posts. You tend to treat all of us readers as if we were idiots. Raise your standards. Don't always assume the we know less then you.

Belmont Ave. (Mickey D's) is in my opinion the worse part of Paterson.

Thank you for seeing the light about posting in red. Now if you could attempt to limit the number and length of your posts you could make everyone happy. It should be simple to post only the relevent facts about recent sightings.

Let's see how much Buffalo Bill really knows. Are you ready.

Where was G-Strings ?

Wooly
10-15-03, 15:36
Little Dick, (I bet it is not really that little. No, no, don't show me )

Your review of finding National appeares in the Newark section rather than here. I intend to complement not criticize.
It is so factual and well written that I want to tell everyone to zip over to the Newark board and read it.
BTW I saw your little yellow porsch parked there last night.

Hue G. Rection
10-15-03, 16:02
Little Dick -

Saw your report on National but I am curious, did you enter the bar? What did you find? Worth the effort?

Details please.

Thanks

Buffalo Bill
10-15-03, 22:48
The following is copied from the Newark section. It was written by Little Dick on 10/14/03

"It was a quiet afternoon in downtown Paterson today. The balmy climate was perhaps a final reminder of nature’s kindness before the cruel onslaught of the cold windy times to come. The stock market was up again so it was a good time to explore the directions provided here to National bar or tavern or lounge or whatever. I will admit that it annoyed me that some whippersnapper would know the whereabouts of an establishment essentially in my backyard that I didn’t know about. I will admit that this guy has provided remarkable knowledge of the ‘finding women and getting laid’ scene in his previous reports, but here he is telling me of a place in my own territory that I don’t know about. How does he know? Maybe he just made it up.

None-the-less I wiped a few fingerprints off the Porsche and put the top down. (Does this all have to be true?) . I decided to use the small car since the chauffeur had the day off having over celebrated Columbus’ Day yesterday. Following the directions, I headed for the intersection of Main and Madison. From there I drove four blocks toward Clifton. Some of you may have difficulty with that part so let me help you. One. Two. Three. Four. I then made the left turn toward Getty Ave. Lo and behold ! What to my wondering eyes to appear – on the right side – at exactly mid-block – none other than Saddam Hussein. No , I got carried away, that’s not what happened.
The sign for the National Lounge was right there, within an inch of where Buffalo Bill said it would be. How does he do it?

There was no visible street sign at either end of the block so it wouldn’t do much good to know the name of the street. Knowing the house number would have been much less valuable than knowing that is was mid-block on the right.

Now, Buffalo man, explain how you do it !"

Eloquent man, fucken eloquent !
I especially like the wicked humor of the Saddam reference. Perhaps you should explain it to those who can’t get there.

That’s two who read my directions and found the dump. I guess my directions are somewhat vague in that they assume you have something resembling a brain in your head. How can someone make a project out of getting into the car and driving directly to the place about which he had asked?
There's more to be said but I've had a long day so I'm going to bed.

Damian
10-16-03, 11:08
Hey,

I was just wondering where I can get some good girls for a bachelor party in Newark. Prefer latin or Brazilian girls who don't mind doing the extra things. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Wooly
10-16-03, 14:06
OK, Bill and Dick, let me in on the humor of the Saddam reference. I drove past but didn't find anything funny. Am I forced to go in to the place to find it ?

AsianLvr
10-16-03, 20:40
It may have something to do with the club's proximity to the Arabs who populate that part of the city.

Little Dick
10-18-03, 14:39
It was a bright, brisk, beautiful morning near South Paterson as I set the magneto and cranked the trusty, middle aged Packard for a jaunt to the market. As I have done thousands of times before I motored down Getty Avenue to avoid the lights and all that traffic on Main Street. Since it was such a beautiful morning and the Packard was firing perfectly I ventured past the market to see if I could locate any of that dangerous activity as reported here, which has eluded my attention over the past fifty years of motoring on this particular route.

Well, once again I failed to note the dangerous activity which occurs at all times except when I am present.

I turned onto Straight Street and again onto Main Street. Drove down past the hospital and past Madison Avenue. This time I carefully looked for the street signs on that mysterious forth block. If there ever had been signs, they have long ago beep pilfered along with the poles to which they may have been attached. Therefore I proceeded to the market where I observed many attractive ladies who could or could not have been prostitutes.

Buffalo Bill
10-18-03, 22:28
Little Dick,

Another wonderful report. You have a great eye for detail and a true gift for expression.

In response to the quiz about G String, it is too bad that it was located in such a residental neighborhood with those little brats polking their heads in for a peek. That's what provoked the complaints that lead to the demise.

To those who think that the Town Tap was a free for all, this little Passaic oasis was all of that with reasonably attractive white American girls. I wonder what became of the ladies?

Let's see if anyone else can add to the memories.

Wooly, The Saddam reference does, as AsnLvr stated, have to do with the heavy Arab population of that So.Paterson area.

Little Dick
10-19-03, 15:51
HueG.Rection,

No details on the joint. Just found it easily, did not go in, seemed like it was closed, either for the day or permanetly.

It did not offer much promise, but might be a diamond in the shit.

Luv DeSlutz
10-21-03, 22:26
Found 'National'. It was awful. Should be bombed.

Only nice thing to say is that it is near to Peek-a-boo and to HI-Beams.

Looked for streetgals along Market. Came up dry. Around 10:30pm on a warm pleasant day.

J Burb
10-22-03, 00:47
The slutt in me has been dormant for a while, but recently came out and scored a very attractive BSW from a usual Paterson location. She was a real gem, (at least an 8 or 9), perfect body, great personality, aimed only to please, but was unfortunately on the rag so I had to settle for a .20 BBBJ (I sooo wanted to tap that fine ass!) The BJ was alright though

Never mind that, more interesting than her mouth full of my swollen squirting prick, was some good info she provided. (I always ask them lots of questions)

#1) First off, if you’ve noticed heavier LE activity lately, it’s the result of the upcoming local elections, (call it political eye wash). Things should simmer down afterward though.

#2) Sweeps have been on Tue’s & Thu’s and pick up after rush hour. As one might expect, LE also perks up after bar closing time most days, but especially on weekends.

#3) VERY INTERESTING: She spoke of a situation where she had been busted once for “Loitering with intent to solicit” It seems this is LE’s loophole way to bust a SW without having to actually catch her in the act of doing anything. It’s important to know because apparently it can also be used to bust a monger who is obviously trolling an area hunting. It’s no doubt a less serious offense than a real prostitution bust and may not even be criminal, but the $250 fine will sting all the same. Anybody else know any more about this law?

#4) She also confirmed the use of the undercover Ford Expeditions which I had suspected for a while and made reference to a particular white one. (they use other colors too)

This leads me to more undercover sightings that evening:

I saw two black caprices (no suprise) w/all plain cloths officers shaking down a group of brothers on Market.

I can now also confirm LE’s use of undercover silver “Mercury” somethings. They look like Crown Vic’s in appearance (help me here guys). Saw one rush off w/flashing lights and another on patrol.

I’ve also seen undercovers on foot near the popular corner of Van Houten and Carrol as well. When they are the girls simply wont be there, but I’ve seen enough busts on Van Houten to not rule out an occasional decoy sting. (The residents must get sick of looking at the SW’s on this street and complain)

Anyways, safety is in knowledge, use the big head.

J Burb

J Burb
10-22-03, 13:31
Luv D Slutz,
Can you elaborate more on your dislike of the National. (One mans dive can be anothers paradise) As for Market st, I suspect you were on the wrong end of town, try following it to the opposite end.

Luv DeSlutz
10-22-03, 20:44
J Burb,

The place is dark and depressing. The dancers are old and depressing. The patrons are arabic and depressing. Other than that it was great! No lap dance, who would want one?

One quick beer and out. The area seemed safe, a far, far improvement over Mister Dee's. Hey, its only a beer, give it a try.

BTW: I drove Market St. from Marcet to the Rogers Locomotive factory. What end did I miss?

Kilroy Was Here
10-23-03, 02:38
I think they are using cabs also. Last week I was in the area looking for fun and notice a white cab with two men in the front I pulled over and used the cell phone so the would pass me.. they had uniforms. watch your selfs. I wonder if they have cameras I sure they have them at that big store (cvs or something like that).

Anyone been to marcet lately the girls look a lot better. But still hound you for your $. they removed the table. and now the have wall dance. Some of the latin women makes me wish I spoke latin or what ever it is.

K

Buffalo Bill
10-23-03, 13:08
J Burb stated "(One mans dive can be anothers paradise)".

This is why we should stop pretending to be subjective in reporting on titty bars. I like Luv's review. He did not like it and he said so. Others may like it and are entitled to their opinion.

I won't waste my time reporting on titty bars except to reply to an inqury.

No one should think that his opinion is the only one, or attempt to speak for everyone. If you got laid or blown away, say so. If you got your balls rubbed, don't bother reporting unless someone asks you, that happens everywhere.

J Burb
10-23-03, 16:55
I agree Bill,

Opinions don’t get you laid, facts do. If I wasn’t clear enough, all I’m really asking in this case are the facts that lead to his opinion, not an elaboration of the opinion itself. The primary facts that would interest me are:

1) Prices (cover, drinks, activities)
2) Quality & quanity of women
3) Sleaze / Extra’s (or lack of it)

This all I need to determine if a bar is worth entering, I can form my own opinion beyond that.

Evil Spock
10-24-03, 22:11
Long time reader, first time poster. I've been in the trade for over a decade now and have been reading the forum for almost two years but I've never been compelled to post untill now.

The National Tavern could be better.

The only reason I ever walked in there is because I know one the dancers from another bar.

The place is owned by an arab (nice guy) and 75% of the customers are arabs. On most nights you'll get 2-3 dancers, mostly older hispanic/brazilians. No lap dances and flashing is kept to a minimum. Drinks are reasonably priced and you're not bothered every two minutes for a tip (twenty bucks goes a looonnng way here). nothing happens untill about 9pm anyway.

Bottom line is that if you like a place to sit and converse with the ladies and not be bothered this place is decent. Anything else and you walked into the wrong place.

And on the subject little known clubs in Paterson : Alex's Playground on 21st street.

Small place open from tues-sun, 2-3 dancers (sub-par hispanic/brazilian) plus "hostesses" who will be happy to sit and drink all your money away. Stay away from them. I Have had lap dances and phys. contact with the dancers and have seen local sw selling their wears inside. This place has potential. stick with the bottled water for only $1.

All Data is first hand and of course Logical.

Little Dick
10-25-03, 14:33
One out of three isn’t too bad!

The price of a drink is almost a fact. Some bars vary price by time of day i.e. before or after 9 P.M., not to mention ‘Happy Hour’. I’ve also noticed places where different bartenders have different prices. In general I’ll agree it’s a fact, but who really cares.

Quality is totally an opinion. It depends on the maturity and sobriety, among other factors, of the observer. It seems that the older I get the less tolerable I become of old women. As Shakespeare said, “Beauty doth lie in the eye of the beholder”.

Sleaze? Let’s just update the Bard. “Sleaze doth lie in the crouch of the beholder.”

Facts are things like location, not the ‘usual location”. Also the day and time of the sighting could prove useful. Price can be a fact, but it often depends on negotiating skills and desperation. I’m sure there are many others, which may help in finding women and getting laid, but none are as useful as ‘being there’.

In the ten days since Buffalo Bill gave us directions to National, only Mr. DeSlutz has bothered to enter the place. He deserves our thanks for doing so. It appears that he did not choose to stick around just to gather material to post here. He simply did not enjoy the place and told us so.

If I may I’ll change the plural into the possessive.

One mans dive can be another’s paradise.

J Burb
10-27-03, 12:22
LuvDeSlutz,
Try Market east of Madison. Not exactly sure of the locations you mentioned so I included a map with purple highlights of some general hot spots. Seems like you were there prime time, maybe there were just sweeps that day because often any girl walking by herself after dark on the highlighted end of Market is a potential SW. Identifying one is all about establishing solid eye contact, so be obvious you’re checking them out, they’ll be looking for you too. (Non-SW's will usually avoid any attention to passing traffic) Also sometimes a second pass will bring more out of the side street shadows.

Killroy,
Although I've never seen one, I was told long ago about these undercover cabs, thanks for confirming. Also I heard there is indeed at least one hidden police cam in front of the projects off of lower Market (on the the Uhaul street) so your hunch is probably a good one.

J Burb

J Burb
10-28-03, 04:53
Little Dick,
No doubt there will always be unique and ever changing variables that contribute toward any info posted here, but it seems the most anyone can possibly ever report is the particular facts of their own experience. That’s all I asked Luv for. Of course this will never amount to “absolute fact” and can never guarantee anyone elses experience, but it can at least provide a ball park idea for those of us who don’t always have the opportunity to “be there”.

If you’d prefer, I’ll rephrase “fact” to “The consolidation of useful information”. Better? My underlining point is just a preference to see a proportionately higher amount of useful info than subjective bulk. I still respect anyone’s prerogative to freely post their opinion and always consider any sincere effort to contribute here welcome. (Far too many people just take info and give nothing, look at the hits already on my map GIF) As for my improper grammar, sue me! LOL

Dee’s Scale:
Love it or hate it, Dee has made a valid point that it does contain much of the condensed info I happen to prefer. Dee, if I may make a hopefully helpful suggestion: I suspect it may not be so much your scale or actual info that gets sometimes opposed, but more when a sizable post of previous material resurfaces and quickly pushes back fresh new readings. Old info is still no less important, but giving regular readers the option to skip over it will surely be more agreeable to some. I see you may have already found that solution by posting as you did below and using a simple date reference to your previous posts rather than reposting them in thier entirety. (A link could even work better). Just my humble observation, may help diffuse tensions.

J Burb

Wharf Rat
10-28-03, 07:56
Its such a shame that all the SWs in P-Town are crackies, has anyone seen anythign remotely hot looking on the streets there lately?

I drove thru around 3 am this morning and saw absolutely nothing!

Rat

John Y. Doe
10-28-03, 12:18
J Burb,

Thank you very much for your post here on the 27th. I have never had a LE "sting" sw in the car. I wondered how I had so much luck. As I read what you wrote, I realized I have been using the same pattern as you to pre-determine if the sw was LE. It was not clear to me, before reading your post, that I was doing something. Now I know that I have been doing something very similar to you. It sounds like a great idea. I will be sure to follow it in the future.

I also appreciate your post about the police camera near the end of Market. A lot of mongers take the U-turn at the end of Market (just before the highway entrance), so they can take another cruise up Market. Seeing a monger passing the turn around many times in a short while makes us an obvious target to get followed by undercover LE (such as in their silver-colored Ford SUV).

Thanks again for all the your info, it's a great help.

Buffalo Bill
10-28-03, 15:15
Evil Spock why have you been hiding in the backgroung? Great report ! You've summed up both National and Alex's perfectly.
Now here I go being a pain in the ass. Alex's is on 21th Avenue not 21th Street.

Won't make much difference to those who get their kicks by reading about it here, but for those of us who get out occasionally it might be important. I've had a good evening there but many disappointing ones also.

There are or were several neighborhood bars in the People's Park area with dancers, some only weekends. Isn't Vicky's right across the street?

I've wasted more than a few evenings haunting that area, which none-the-less, I prefer to the better known money pits of Paterson.

Evil Spock
10-28-03, 16:08
Buffalo Bill,

Obviously my tricorder is faulty and thus false data was reported. I thank you for the correction. It’s is not “being a pain in the ass” to point out such things.

Also I was not “hiding in the background”, merely lurking unseen! Will be visiting planet Slappy’s soon to get my pon farr on. Report to follow.

J Burb
10-30-03, 01:48
John Doe,
Although that method may work well to differentiate a SW from the local female public, I wouldn’t count on it to rule out if she’s LE or not. (a good decoy could easily mimic a SW’s routine) More effective is knowing the right rap and taking careful notice of your surroundings. I’ve been told the majority of stings in Paterson focus more on busting SW’s than Johns, but occasionally not. Here is the link to avoiding stings in case you missed it.

www.worldsexguide.org/us_avoid_stings.txt.html

Luv DeSlutz
10-31-03, 00:52
Water Rat,

I feel your pain every time I drive through Paterson for a little recreation. You could look at the map that was posted here a few days ago and find a large quantity of providers, but if you share my preference for quality, I suggest you use the map only to find the shortest distance through the indicated areas.

Higher quality providers might be found along Madison Ave. with Park Ave. and 14th Ave. being likely cross streets.

My favorite spot, although not densely populated with candidates, is down around Mill and Passaic Streets.

Of course, you will find fewer candidates, but these locations should enhance your probability of finding caucasian, less advanced crackhead cases. They usually range from acceptable to good.

I know of nothing else any closer than Newark. Passaic has deteriorated to the point where it hard to find even a scank. I enjoyed the exchange about G-String. Those ladies were up for just about anything, at higher prices. Sa le vive!

In case no one has told you yet. Be careful out there.

Wharf Rat
10-31-03, 08:29
Has anyone besides me seen the trannies hangin out by the shell a bit too much lately?

They seem to be taking over the usual spots for SWs these days.

Rat

Wharf Rat
11-01-03, 16:16
Luv DeSlutz,

I appreciate the info, its good to know that Paterson does have a bit more variety these days.

Rat

Buffalo Bill
11-08-03, 18:15
Note to Evil Spock,
Awaiting your report on Slappy's. Accoding to the strip club review board, back room activities have been eliminated. My method had been to complinent and buy a drink for Jackie, the barmaid before going in backroom.
Let's hear how you made out !

Cowboy Fan
11-10-03, 15:14
Long time lurker, first time post.

I never wanted to give my email up to register, but being computer illiterate, I found out I could get free one at Yahoo.

Yeah

I frequent the sw's in Paterson all the time. I read Jburbs post about a hot WOC a few weeks back.

Was her name Eva or Eve, I met her about a month ago and can't find her. Tall, 5-8, slender, great attitude.

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to capitalize the word "I". To avoid future delays, please refrain from using "i" instead of a capital "I" in future reports. Thanks!

Mirco
11-11-03, 14:07
Need advice!!

A motel or other comparable place in Fort Lee/GWB/Route 46 area. Must be clean and cheap. For 2-3 hours.
Thanx in advance to all!

J Burb
11-12-03, 00:10
Cowboy Fan,
definatley wasnt Eve unless she goes by that name too (possable). The girl I found went by something else.

Welcome to the board, Im glad to see theres been some other members who share an interest in street action lately. Its often "titty bar central" here, but I expect no less with almost as many strip joints in Paterson as there are fried chicken places. LOL!

J Burb

Cowboy Fan
11-12-03, 14:51
Definatley wasnt Eve unless she goes by that name too (possable). The girl I found went by something else.

I heard through the grape vine that she only comes out when the family is desperate for $$$.

I've also seen this young blonde, her name is Etna. She strolls broadway from the labor office up to Mc dees in the afternoon.

Probably 22, wonderful soft round ass and gives awesome bbj. good girl.

Othwise all I've found are the same old deteriorating girls.

It seems if you find a gem, they are tough to find again.

There is a black girl whose been strolling for years, taller, slimm black girl, great legs, deep blue eyes. I've seen her jonesing out on street corners like she's about to explode. Arm's flaring, head a bobbing. she's out their.

Years ago i thought nothing of driving around, even at night looking, even after a few cocktails, but it is different, their is something in the air down their.

Never been stopped, Knock on wood, again, knock on wood.

Good luck to all.

J Burb
11-14-03, 20:26
Cowboy,
PM me if you can and I'll respond with some goods. You may have to activate the feature first, I see no button for it under your post or I would have PM'd you first.

J Burb

NJ Tang Guy
11-15-03, 16:10
Slappy's has changed a little bit. If you know which girls to go to, you can still have fun. The owner has been trying to clean up a bit though.

Cowboy Fan
11-16-03, 15:02
I'm new to the board, but not new to Paterson. About the only thing that has changed is you don't see sw's on Madison anymore around broadway. they used to hang out there all the time from the old bank (laundramat) to the new drug store.

The city is hot. It sucks,

I wish i had a piece of shit car, because you could run into the rainbow, park and girls will call you to the rooms. A little risky, but you could get a quickie. Have seen a real petite black girl working out of the rainbow. She goes by linda.

Little Dick
11-16-03, 20:57
I had the pleasure of driving through Passaic around 6:30 this evening and went a few blocks out of my way to check the old stroll. Don't know why I did since I had passengers in the car and could not accomplish anything anyway.

Just as Murphy's Laws would predict, I spotted some ladies apparently plying the world's oldest profession. The location was the age old spot of Grove St. and Passaic Ave. and the blocks around there.

I've not seen that location suggested here so I'm offering without fully checking. I will examine in detail in days to come, but decided to post this preliminary report in case others want to check for themselves.

Hue G. Rection
11-16-03, 23:56
Visited Mickey Dees last week. Seems that they have spruced up the place a bit with some additional lighting. Glad the bartender turned some of them off as it made the girls (women) less appealing.

Hooked up with a cutie (don't remember her name) who wears an "A" around her neck. About 5' tall with long brown hair and a nice body (implants). Went in the back for the usual and banged her sensless. The only problem was the condom broke as I was bangin her. Didn't notice until after I pulled out. Oh well, should know better to bring my own next time.

Happy Hunting.

Wharf Rat
11-18-03, 16:14
Dee,

Think twice about stopping there, Id wouldnt stop there with a tank.

Rat

Cowboy Fan
11-18-03, 18:30
I had the pleasure of doing a little business today in P-town.

Overall, it was empty, drove the market, madison, vanhouten broadway and back route for about 2 hours.

Only saw a few real bad crack hoes.

Then it was red head day.

I drove up Broadway and saw a pretty nicely dressed redhead, didn't know if she was going to the labor place or if she was working, i went up to KFC, turned around and saw her go into rainbow. she looked pretty clean. She had a fuckin Nextel and was talking as she was walking, while I dont' think she was a cop, she certainly is going to drum up business that way.

10 minutes later I saw a another petite red head walk around the Texaco. By the time I turned around, she was getting picked up. I saw a little to much of a white Cadilac Escalade. I saw it a few times, probaly the reason I didn't jump on either red head when I first saw them.

Little Dick
11-18-03, 19:08
If the Rainbow is the place on Broadway, that I knew as the Thunderbird, I wouldn't go there without a division of tanks (your welcome).

You folks have to enhance your knowledge of Paterson. Stick to Getty Ave. until you know what you are doing.

Cowboy Fan
11-19-03, 15:09
I'll tell you the truth, I might risk meeting a girl their rather than drive around and get popped.

Tell the guy you want a lower level room in full view.

Look, $25 for a room, and $20 or so for the chick is better than doing it in the car, especially the way Paterson has been lately. Plus you get to relax on a bed while getting what you want and not have the chick rummage through your stuff.

It’s not utopia, but you can get in and out quick and if your not doing drugs, you have nothing to lose.

NJ Tang Guy
11-19-03, 18:49
Cowboy,

I can't think of many, if any, SW with nextel's especially those in P-town. However, LE does use them. It is more secure then the regular radio since people with scanners can't monitor the Nextel transmission.

I have never seen a half way decent looking SW around the Rainbow. If there is one, I would personally beware.

J Burb
11-19-03, 19:34
Hey Cowboy Fan,
My PM is still sitting unread in your inbox, be sure and click "GO" on your private message page to view it or it l will appear like nothing is there.

Dee,
your correct about SW's going into that Mc Donalds and since they do occasionally need more than drugs and semen in thier bodies to survive, you'll often find them in many of the areas fast food places. Could even be a safe spot to make a deal if your descreet about it and positive the girl is a SW, but that may require long periods of wait and limit your selection. (I'm sure most SWs know better than to loiter inside any place of buisiness for too long anyway).

As for that hotel, Its too small and easily monitered by management. I wouldnt risk getting pinned in there by LE under any curcumstances unless you've legitmately rented a room for the evening and could justify your presence there. Live a little, try some street nookie dude! You know what to do. (wouldnt blame you if you didnt though)

J Burb

dirtmonger
11-20-03, 10:26
I haven't frequented paterson like I used to, Are the cops really that bad now?

Anyone seen a hispanic girl named Francis, 5-5, 115lbs, long black hair. She was usually by Market.

She is actually pretty, (or was), gave the best blow job in the world.

She would be worth a trip back.

J Burb
11-21-03, 18:58
Dee,
Like I said, I don’t blame you , and yes, there is a certain risk on the street but I must say most of my tricks have gone rather well and without incident. The couple that didn’t were more the result of my own lack of knowlage, judgment, or discretion at the time. I would personally probably prefer the atmosphere and safety of a strip club too if it were more economical (or even an AMP for that matter), but I just can’t get myself to part with that kind of cash when I know FS can be easily had on the street for the cost of a lap dance. For me, even a place as reasonable as Mickey Dees is only worth some cheap gropes and eye candy as a quick tease before going elsewhere. Not that I cant afford it, but as a guy who legitimately dates a lot and has a frequent supply of tail, I'm even resistant to the expectation of wining and dining a woman and usually go dutch even if I know she'll fuck me. I simply don’t feel temporary access to some females stank vagina is worth a sizable chunk of my paycheck.

It's not all about scoring anyway, I’ve come to fully appreciate the addictive rush one gets during the thrill of the hunt and any risk taken is all a part of that rush. Like skydiving, falling out of the sky can cause one excessive anxiety, but that’s exactly why people do it. I’m sure you can at least identify with the lesser thrill of window shopping for prospects even if you’ll never pick them up. To each his own though, we all find our sexual gratification in one way or another. If you ever get a surge of bravery let me know, maybe I can help.

J Burb

Luv DeSlutz
11-21-03, 21:36
DEE,

How many years has it been since you've been in Paterson?

Why don't you post about all the streetwalkers going in and out of the bars on Paterson St between Market St and Broadway? (this area cleaned up in the 70's but I have seen hundreds of em out there).

Let's get serious. Don't waste anyone's time bullshiting about Checkers. Its great for a fast, cheap bite while passing from stroll to stroll or bar to bar, but no one except you will ever see a streetwalker doing business, and you wouldn't know a streetwalker if she bit you.

Madison around Park is one of the better locations. I know, I pick up there. I wouldn't touch most of the disease carriers around Broadway and Market Street is almost as bad.
You always provide exactly the same stale, semi-accurate info. If you like clubs you should try Marcet on the rt 80 end of Market St. But other reliable posters have already told us about that.

How about giving us a report on National since you begged for the location.

Wooly
11-22-03, 00:57
Have on occasion driven the various strolls of the Silk City. Not seen much to make me want to stop and have seen too much police presence. Can't understand why any sane person would monger there or want to discuss Rainbow Motel. Just avoid it !
Frequently made contact with ladies met at various titty bars, which is my only reason for being in Paterson. By that I mean a whole lot more then phone #s, for prices starting at a pizza for lunch plus the room.
Unless you gentlemen are keeping the actual locations secret, Paterson is scanksville, except for the not too populated sites offered a while back by Little Dick which do offer promise. I have seen an attractive prospect at Park and Madison.
Checkers---get real ! ! ! There is no near stroll and I beleive it is take-out food only. There is no way to go inside. I don't what others may think they have seen, but I will assert that one would have a better chance of getting laid in front of City Hall at high noon. Perhaps one should try the others Checkers near McDe's, the area offers some potential, even if there is no inside.
If reasonably attractive street girls are your objective, Newark
must be your choice. Both the North and South ends are ripe. Much information is shared on that section. Using Rt 21, Marcet is six minutes from Newark. (I have done it too many times to count.) Rt 80 to the Parkway is also quick.
I too enjoy the hunt nearly a much as the kill, but I find no pleasure in tracking maimed and deformed prey.

Buffalo Bill
11-22-03, 10:18
Wooly,
You take this board too seriously. If someone needs to get his sexual enjoyment by making up stories and posting them here that's his problem. We all know that there is no prostitution in Paterson or any where else in New Jersey. Everything I have ever posted is purely fictional.
You and I know nothing of streetwalkers or stripbars. If someone wants to copy our reports to use as his own, so what. Its better then farting in an elevator.

Luv DeSlutz
11-22-03, 21:00
Dee,

As a seeker of truth, who has actively pursued the ladies of Paterson for over 30 years, I would like for you to provide just a little more detail so that I, and others can find what you so easily find in your occasional jaunts to the city.

Like all others I find you account of streetwalkers at the Market St. Checkers to be highly improbable.

Perhaps you can tell the times and days when you saw whatever you think you saw going INTO the place. Since there are no inside accommodations, that part of your story is false. Perhaps you would also tell us why you believe they were streetwalkers since you manifest you do not pick them up.

Your constant sightings amaze me since I am in Paterson daily. Based upon your ignorance of the most elementary local geography, I must conclude that you get to Paterson once or twice a year at most.

Of course, no one would question the veracity of your reports ( he he ), but a little more detail so that I may find those Checkers streetwalkers would be useful. And don’t forget to tell us of the six-foot tall rabbits.

When are you going to tell us of your adventures at National? Don’t forget to thank that knowledgeable poster who was kind enough to provide detailed directions for you. He always provides useful and verifiable information.

We all thank Buffalo Bill.

Little Dick
11-22-03, 22:56
There in no need to badmouth the city because one has no understanding of it. Everyone knows that Paterson is not Glen Rock!

Paterson is what it is, mostly decent hard working, striving for middle class people. The more negative the comment the more clear it becomes that the commentator knows nothing of the city.

There are some sections which should be avoided, but there are other areas where fun can be found. I will not repete my previous suggestions since I don't want to be accused of constantly posting the same old crap.

Buffalo Bill
11-23-03, 02:17
Deeuncola could start a fight in an empty room.

I intend to let him handle this one by himself, like his sexlife.

I have a life to live, a business to run, and several women to satisfy.
I do not intend to join in Dee's hissy-fit, despite his consistent attacks on me.

Do any of you readers beleive him ?

Wooly
11-23-03, 09:38
I doubt that anyone even reads him. I'm sure that no one beleives him.

A much more plesant poster, Little Dick, made mention of Paterson St, which I have heard much about. An old timer who I met in a Passaic bar claimed there were six or eight go-go bars in a two block streach with a half dozen hotels. According to him, from sundown to sunrise, dozens of hookers would be walking from one bar to another. He proudly stressed that there was no AIDS and no condoms.

Are there any veterens reading this who took part in this extement. I imagnine it to be like San Francisco in the 1800's or Chicago in the 20's.
I'm told that Baby Doll's was there and was center of the action.
According to my besotted informant this occured in the 60's. The area had completely rebuilt and now appeares to need another renewal.