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Admin2
08-04-15, 23:25
Here it is ladies, the thread you all need. Seriously 28 fucking posts over who is the better monger?

Now that you have a fight thread the number of times even senior members can be douchebags on a review thread and not get put on moderation would be exactly none. I suggest you learn how to use this thread pretty quick.

A2

Timberwolf
09-14-15, 16:13
What if we're just comparing dick size in the context of discussing why some providers are racist??

MrChill
09-14-15, 18:36
What if we're just comparing dick size in the context of discussing why some providers are racist??But It's more like what's going on in a few other cities when it gets heated. Admin2 has already moved a bunch of posts and actually started that thread to keep the clutter out of other threads.

Take a look at what's going on in the Philly area under "Mighty Micks Fight Club". This shows a couple members complaining about CookyJars street walkers photo thread.

IMHO this guy (CookyJar) has spent eons of time to share photos of gals with the group. Then there's a few assholes out there that are fricking complaining that he's taking too many photos of these girls and it's bogging down the time it takes them to glean info to pick up chicks. WTF. Are you kidding me. Too many photos. Oh my god. What is wrong with that guy in philly (or a few of them)? Who doesn't want to look at tons of photos of girls. Especially ones that are in a specific area. And able to be approached. Hello.

I mean everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that's where the knock down drag out shit should take place.

MrChill.

WorthlessNut
01-17-16, 18:16
Toledo Toughman Fight Club.

It's obvious that the Time has come for our Thriving Metropolis of a city to have a Battle area where anyone with a beef with the other guy or other strong differences of opinion can post it here.

Battle it out here Boys.

Keep the other Threads for meaningful discussion about your actual reviews of Pussy and where to find it.

MrChill.It was not till a few weeks ago when the one monger who seems to have disappeard came on 3 times in a week to say the same thing, that so and so provider said he was biggest she ever had. I know I got slapped by admin 2 for a post that was pulled because I told him nobody wanted to hear about his supposed size.

Pat122
08-01-16, 22:57
Thanks for the heads up. BB clients. Off my list of people to meet. Way too risky. If she takes chances like that, what else does she do?Ok what did she do? I am lost here. Why are you crossing her off your list?

Pat122
08-01-16, 23:02
Ok what did she do? I am lost here. Why are you crossing her off your list?Ok never mind, I got it. Bb for bare back?? Dammm hell no. Won't see her then.

Pat122
08-02-16, 00:27
Said she does bare back but he says that almost every time.I will probably call her and check myself. It seems that someone is trying to keep her all to himself).

Member #5260
08-02-16, 06:53
Thanks for the heads up. BB clients. Off my list of people to meet. Way too risky. If she takes chances like that, what else does she do?As long as you are wrapping up your pecker, why would it bother you??

TheBigDipper1
08-02-16, 06:55
I will probably call her and check myself. It seems that someone is trying to keep her all to himself).If I was trying to keep her all to myself, I wouldn't have reviewed her and told everyone to go see her. She did BB with me cause I proved I was HIV Neg. With my dept. Of health certificate.

Notice I never reviewed Marissa? She wouldn't budge on the BB issue or Baby Ariel. I go for the young really pretty types, cheeleader lookin' types I guess you'd say. Jenna, Samantha, Ashley, Amanda, Kitty etc.

TheBigDipper1
08-02-16, 06:58
As long as you are wrapping up your pecker, why would it bother you??Exactly. Maybe the reason some providers won't offer BB is because they are HIV positive, ever think of that. Yet they tell guys they are afraid of catching it, when maybe they already have it.

MrHungWell
08-02-16, 07:22
As long as you are wrapping up your pecker, why would it bother you??Maybe because if the condom accidentally breaks he is then balls deep, raw, in a vagina carrying possible diseases? I'm not choosing a side in this bb vs. No bb talk, just pointing out why wearing a condom to fuck a girl who is clearly willing to go bb with clients might still scare some guys off.

Pat122
08-02-16, 18:41
If I was trying to keep her all to myself, I wouldn't have reviewed her and told everyone to go see her. She did BB with me cause I proved I was HIV Neg. With my dept. Of health certificate.

Notice I never reviewed Marissa? She wouldn't budge on the BB issue or Baby Ariel. I go for the young really pretty types, cheeleader lookin' types I guess you'd say. Jenna, Samantha, Ashley, Amanda, Kitty etc.Just chill, I was trying to be funny. Noticed the smiley face. Anyway, it's still a bad idea to bb providers imo. But who am I to judge?

ILoveUtr
08-03-16, 13:05
I will probably call her and check myself. It seems that someone is trying to keep her all to himself).Thebigdipper is not trying to keep anyone to himself. There is nothing that he did to keep Brooke to himself. He just posted his honest opinion about Brooke.

I understand you had a smiley against your comment as you mentioned but everybody may not take it in a funny way and atleast I did not.

In fact, thebigdipper is one of our very good contributors on this board and I really like his selection and all his reviews are sooo true, which can be trusted. So whoever wants to say that somebody is trying to keep her just by saying she does bb does not make any sense. If he really wanted to keep her for himself, he just didn't have to take the time to post here. There are some interested in bb and some who are not, so its up to you to make your choice. We really need contributors posting info like this, this is exactly what this forum is for. Whoever not interested in seeing providers who do it can definitely abstain from seeing. We need people like thebigdipper here and so don't steer good reviewers away from here with comments like this. Again hats off to you. Thebigdipper. Keep doing what your doing, your contributions are highly appreciated.

Member #5278
08-03-16, 13:23
In fact, thebigdipper is one of our very good contributors on this board and I really like his selection and all his reviews are sooo true, which can be trusted. So whoever wants to say that somebody is trying to keep her just by saying she does bb does not make any sense. If he really wanted to keep her for himself, he just didn't have to take the time to post here. There are some interested in bb and some who are not, so its up to you to make your choice. We really need contributors posting info like this, this is exactly what this forum is for. Whoever not interested in seeing providers who do it can definitely abstain from seeing. We need people like thebigdipper here and so don't steer good reviewers away from here with comments like this. Again hats off to you. Thebigdipper. Keep doing what your doing, your contributions are highly appreciated.I can add all the girls he sees to my Do Not See list. It is a great service.

WorthlessNut
08-03-16, 14:36
Thebigdipper is not trying to keep anyone to himself. There is nothing that he did to keep Brooke to himself. He just posted his honest opinion about Brooke.

I understand you had a smiley against your comment as you mentioned but everybody may not take it in a funny way and atleast I did not.

In fact, thebigdipper is one of our very good contributors on this board and I really like his selection and all his reviews are sooo true, which can be trusted. So whoever wants to say that somebody is trying to keep her just by saying she does bb does not make any sense. If he really wanted to keep her for himself, he just didn't have to take the time to post here. There are some interested in bb and some who are not, so its up to you to make your choice. We really need contributors posting info like this, this is exactly what this forum is for. Whoever not interested in seeing providers who do it can definitely abstain from seeing. We need people like thebigdipper here and so don't steer good reviewers away from here with comments like this. Again hats off to you. Thebigdipper. Keep doing what your doing, your contributions are highly appreciated.Brooke does bb there,. And I am not trying to keep her for myself.

MrHungWell
08-03-16, 16:35
Thebigdipper is not trying to keep anyone to himself. There is nothing that he did to keep Brooke to himself. He just posted his honest opinion about Brooke.

I understand you had a smiley against your comment as you mentioned but everybody may not take it in a funny way and atleast I did not.

In fact, thebigdipper is one of our very good contributors on this board and I really like his selection and all his reviews are sooo true, which can be trusted. So whoever wants to say that somebody is trying to keep her just by saying she does bb does not make any sense. If he really wanted to keep her for himself, he just didn't have to take the time to post here. There are some interested in bb and some who are not, so its up to you to make your choice. We really need contributors posting info like this, this is exactly what this forum is for. Whoever not interested in seeing providers who do it can definitely abstain from seeing. We need people like thebigdipper here and so don't steer good reviewers away from here with comments like this. Again hats off to you. Thebigdipper. Keep doing what your doing, your contributions are highly appreciated.Not sure if you read what Pat wrote, but I believe he said he was kidding / joking. Even if you and TBD haven't caught that yet, he's still only joking. All info is good info, and TBD's contributions are appreciated.

Pat122
08-03-16, 20:30
Thebigdipper is not trying to keep anyone to himself. There is nothing that he did to keep Brooke to himself. He just posted his honest opinion about Brooke.

I understand you had a smiley against your comment as you mentioned but everybody may not take it in a funny way and atleast I did not.

In fact, thebigdipper is one of our very good contributors on this board and I really like his selection and all his reviews are sooo true, which can be trusted. So whoever wants to say that somebody is trying to keep her just by saying she does bb does not make any sense. If he really wanted to keep her for himself, he just didn't have to take the time to post here. There are some interested in bb and some who are not, so its up to you to make your choice. We really need contributors posting info like this, this is exactly what this forum is for. Whoever not interested in seeing providers who do it can definitely abstain from seeing. We need people like thebigdipper here and so don't steer good reviewers away from here with comments like this. Again hats off to you. Thebigdipper. Keep doing what your doing, your contributions are highly appreciated.Wow people can't take jokes? There is always someone who is going to take things out of proportion. Anyway, I don't really care if Brooke does bb or not. If I offended anyone, I am sorry. Please Let's MOVE ON.

Thank you.

TheBigDipper1
08-03-16, 22:24
Wow people can't take jokes? There is always someone who is going to take things out of proportion. Anyway, I don't really care if Brooke does bb or not. If I offended anyone, I am sorry. Please Let's MOVE ON.

Thank you.Maybe you should stick to reviewing escorts and leave the jokes to someone else, Geore Carlin.

See, now that's a good joke, no smiley needed LOL!

I have more to offer than just "bareskin. ".

I got personality too. Now you see why all these ladies love me LOL!

MrHungWell
08-04-16, 07:43
Maybe you should stick to reviewing escorts and leave the jokes to someone else, Geore Carlin.

See, now that's a good joke, no smiley needed LOL!

I have more to offer than just "bareskin. ".

I got personality too. Now you see why all these ladies love me LOL!Dude, he twice (including initially) said he was joking, and it's obvious to anyone who can read he was joking. He asked in a nice and polite manner to move on so why don't you already? Let it go man, you are making too big of a deal over a damn joke that you clearly didn't get or it hit somewhere close and it pissed you off. Either way no harm was intended nor directed towards you. George Carlin? You're giving his harmless joke / statement way too much credit haha Let it go TBD, you're still overreacting at this point.

TheBigDipper1
08-04-16, 08:08
Dude, he twice (including initially) said he was joking, and it's obvious to anyone who can read he was joking. He asked in a nice and polite manner to move on so why don't you already? Let it go man, you are making too big of a deal over a damn joke that you clearly didn't get or it hit somewhere close and it pissed you off. Either way no harm was intended nor directed towards you. George Carlin? You're giving his harmless joke / statement way too much credit haha Let it go TBD, you're still overreacting at this point.

Relax, Chill. Quite playing referee.

He should've typed his smiley correctly from the start. :)

Now go bang some chick and tell us how she performs. That's what I do.

RooBushin
08-04-16, 09:05
Damn! Knew I should have checked here first! Hooked up with Layna Raine, and same experience, except it was ONLY CBJ and her pants did NOT come off!!

Funky eh? Now I'm panicked! It was CBJ from start to finish! Should I run and get checked out! Anxiety is kicking in!You're fine dude. It's very unlikely to catch anything from a BJ, even bare. CBJ is the safest thing you can do next to a HJ. Unless you saw scabs and scabies all around her mouth then you're fine.

MrHungWell
08-04-16, 09:56
Relax, Chill. Quite playing referee.

He should've typed his smiley correctly from the start. :)

Now go bang some chick and tell us how she performs. That's what I do.Not playing referee, just pointing out you need to let this go (you clearly don't get how petty you are being) so I thought I'd educate you on that. This is all because he didn't type his smiley face properly? I've more than earned my stripes with my reviews on providers so please flex your "muscles" with someone else. He made a joke, apologized twice, you've been asked to let it go more than once and yet you refuse. Figure it out man, no one is trying to insult you or your reports. If you only reported on chicks instead of calling people George Carlin we wouldn't be here right now LOL I'm speaking up because I personally am getting tired of reading your lame attempts at justifying you over-blowing this, all over a smiley? Let me ask you this: if he made the smiley "properly" would you still be this butt-hurt? Get a grip and let it go, I'm done with this conversation as the more I try to explain it to you the less sense you make. IT WAS A JOKE, LET IT GO.

ShakinBacon
08-04-16, 11:42
Not sure if you read what Pat wrote, but I believe he said he was kidding / joking. Even if you and TBD haven't caught that yet, he's still only joking. All info is good info, and TBD's contributions are appreciated.I fail to see the humor in raising doubts about another board members credibility. Adding emoticons does not give someone carte blanche to say whatever they want.

Member #5278
08-04-16, 11:53
I fail to see the humor in raising doubts about another board members credibility. Adding emoticons does not give someone carte blanche to say whatever they want.We're on a chat board bragging about putting the stones to fifty dollar escorts. That you find ANYONE "credible" on here strikes me a bit - to turn a phrase, incredulous.

See, not THAT'S funny. No emoticon required.

ShakinBacon
08-04-16, 13:21
We're on a chat board bragging about putting the stones to fifty dollar escorts. That you find ANYONE "credible" on here strikes me a bit - to turn a phrase, incredulous.

See, not THAT'S funny. No emoticon required.You may be here to brag. I'm a bit beyond that sort of juvenile behavior. I think most of us are here to garner information and if nobody has credibility. Why are we here?

MrHungWell
08-04-16, 13:42
You may be here to brag. I'm a bit beyond that sort of juvenile behavior. I think most of us are here to garner information and if nobody has credibility. Why are we here?No one is questioning anyone's credibility. For some reason you seem intent on ignoring the fact Pat was joking / being a smart ass. If we agree that The Big Dipper is credible, legit, and the best monger-reporter this board has ever witnessed can we just move on? You and TBD are right, the rest of us are wrong and are truly sorry for bringing a sense of humor to this board, ok? From now on we will use emoticons more carefully so we don't cause another Defcon 3 situation.

Caliman69
08-04-16, 16:31
Get we just get passed this please. Thanks.

WellEndowed
08-04-16, 18:06
Please stop this "credibility rant". It is boring, uninteresting, and a waste of time. Lets get back to talking about Pussie. PLEASE!

Do you see the button that says "Report Post" on all of the posts you're talking about? Why do you think that might be there?

A2

Pat122
08-04-16, 18:41
No one is questioning anyone's credibility. For some reason you seem intent on ignoring the fact Pat was joking / being a smart ass. If we agree that The Big Dipper is credible, legit, and the best monger-reporter this board has ever witnessed can we just move on? You and TBD are right, the rest of us are wrong and are truly sorry for bringing a sense of humor to this board, ok? From now on we will use emoticons more carefully so we don't cause another Defcon 3 situation.Guys let's move on. I was wrong. It won't happen again.

Thanks MrHungwell!

TheBigDipper1
08-05-16, 05:23
Not playing referee, just pointing out you need to let this go (you clearly don't get how petty you are being) so I thought I'd educate you on that. This is all because he didn't type his smiley face properly? I've more than earned my stripes with my reviews on providers so please flex your "muscles" with someone else. He made a joke, apologized twice, you've been asked to let it go more than once and yet you refuse. Figure it out man, no one is trying to insult you or your reports. If you only reported on chicks instead of calling people George Carlin we wouldn't be here right now LOL I'm speaking up because I personally am getting tired of reading your lame attempts at justifying you over-blowing this, all over a smiley? Let me ask you this: if he made the smiley "properly" would you still be this butt-hurt? Get a grip and let it go, I'm done with this conversation as the more I try to explain it to you the less sense you make. IT WAS A JOKE, LET IT GO.If he made the smiley correctly then I would've known he was attempting humor. I have a sense of humor. I don't need your education nor do I want it. Also, don't need you to riterate everything that was said and that person's true intentions. I am a smart ass and gave some sarcasm back, you get off on tallying everything up and replaying it. I don't like that.

I am done talking.

I'm calling last word.

WorthlessNut
10-07-16, 20:12
Thank you for the update! Intell like this is much appreciated!

As always, keep safe!!Wow restarting your life on BP. Tought you quit to restart. Got any pics, prices.

QuestForFun
10-07-16, 23:27
Yes that is the Heaven.

She has not ripped me off.

She is not a goddess but will do pretty much anything you want. A little older than her pictures posted age.

Yes does bbfscip.

Not sure if she is junkie. I do not check for it.She's not into anal.

MrHungWell
10-08-16, 05:58
Heaven junkie for surr.

I'll tell you what. I'll post the pics of the needles I saw and the pics of the burnt spoons and I will even post the pic of the suboxone report found and I will cross her name off of since that's against club rules.

Then we can further our discussion. Sound good?She actually let you take those photos while she stood did there and did nothing to stop you? That's almost as stupid as doing that drug in the first place!

MrChill
10-08-16, 11:43
She actually let you take those photos while she stood did there and did nothing to stop you? That's almost as stupid as doing that drug in the first place!Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump.

Life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to get.

I'm sure I'm not the only Senior member with an eye for the absurd choices of the higher IQ people we meet in Life.

Bathroom finds aren't a difficult find. Nor are they a Treasure uncovered.

MC.

AssMan721
10-08-16, 15:08
Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump.

Life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to get.

I'm sure I'm not the only Senior member with an eye for the absurd choices of the higher IQ people we meet in Life.

Bathroom finds aren't a difficult find. Nor are they a Treasure uncovered.

MC.I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess that you are the only one that goes as far as snapping photo's for "evidence" to post online when the opportunity presents itself. Kinda weak if you ask me.

Timberwolf
10-08-16, 16:08
Heaven junkie for surr.

I'll tell you what. I'll post the pics of the needles I saw and the pics of the burnt spoons and I will even post the pic of the suboxone report found and I will cross her name off of since that's against club rules.

Then we can further our discussion. Sound good?She must be diabetic. Yeah that's it. Clearly the last report was at a different location or the monger thinks the trap house that your photos were taken in is well kept.

I'm seriously considering seeing her only to find out for myself who is full of shit here.

Timberwolf
10-08-16, 16:25
Bathroom finds aren't a difficult find. Nor are they a Treasure uncovered.

MC.Dude! LMFAO!

MrChill
10-08-16, 17:04
She must be diabetic. Yeah that's it. Clearly the last report was at a different location or the monger thinks the trap house that your photos were taken in is well kept.

I'm seriously considering seeing her only to find out for myself who is full of shit here.Well T Wolf. Good question about who's full of shit. In fact I'm glad you asked. As a Senior member my reputation is solid here in this club. My reports are solid as well as entertaining. I'm sure of that by the feedback that I get from the group (dare I say my friends). Isn't this supposed to be a Fun Hobby? I encourage everyone to go through all of my past reports and see if they are of substance.

In fact I would be so bold to say this. And this is where credibility comes in. I have Never once ever said don't go see her. In fact isn't this a site for us to report our observations of those who offer commercial services?

So let's review.

I did NOT report her as a Cash and Dash. (in May June by the way).

I did not report her as BBFSCIP recently. (Bare back full service cum in pussy).

I did not report her as someone who would do just about anything to keep a monger happy (perhaps a hint or clear sign of a junkie).

I did not report her as doing DATY (good luck with that one guys. Let me know how another mangers giz tastes'.

I did not report that her selfie pictures looked like old pictures.

I am reporting that the pics were of her last incall where there was no electricity.

I am reporting that it seems suspicious that when she brandishes a smile it looks like the edge of Mt Rusmore. Does that coincide with the possibility that she might be a diabetic. Ha. Doubt it. Ask her if she has ever taken herion or is currently a suboxone client. Read that one again.

I am reporting that you can glance at the pics I posted again and ask any of the senior members that have seen her if that was her tiny single bed or not. Ask any of the senior members that saw her at her last incall if it seemed oddly dark over there at her place or not.

Are we having Fun yet?

Go see her. And report back to the group. How's that? Does that offer a little levity to the controversy that is surrounding Heaven formerly known as Naveah. ?

Let me know if a majority of these reports seem to be of the same cloth.

Use fact checker to run her FB and do name grab and plug that into the LCCC booking or other Perrysburg site. See if the pics of her match. That's a bit of homework for all of my keen brotheren that like to use their Spidey sense.

Then lastly let me know who seems credible. Dare I say that I have reported JUST the Facts in this Friendly World we live in.

MC.

AssMan721
10-08-16, 18:05
Well T Wolf. Good question about who's full of shit. In fact I'm glad you asked. As a Senior member my reputation is solid here in this club. My reports are solid as well as entertaining. I'm sure of that by the feedback that I get from the group (dare I say my friends). Isn't this supposed to be a Fun Hobby? I encourage everyone to go through all of my past reports and see if they are of substance.

In fact I would be so bold to say this. And this is where credibility comes in. I have Never once ever said don't go see her. In fact isn't this a site for us to report our observations of those who offer commercial services?

So let's review.

I did NOT report her as a Cash and Dash. (in May June by the way).

I did not report her as BBFSCIP recently. (Bare back full service cum in pussy).

I did not report her as someone who would do just about anything to keep a monger happy (perhaps a hint or clear sign of a junkie).

I did not report her as doing DATY (good luck with that one guys. Let me know how another mangers giz tastes'.

I did not report that her selfie pictures looked like old pictures.

I am reporting that the pics were of her last incall where there was no electricity.

I am reporting that it seems suspicious that when she brandishes a smile it looks like the edge of Mt Rusmore. Does that coincide with the possibility that she might be a diabetic. Ha. Doubt it. Ask her if she has ever taken herion or is currently a suboxone client. Read that one again.

I am reporting that you can glance at the pics I posted again and ask any of the senior members that have seen her if that was her tiny single bed or not. Ask any of the senior members that saw her at her last incall if it seemed oddly dark over there at her place or not.

Are we having Fun yet?

Go see her. And report back to the group. How's that? Does that offer a little levity to the controversy that is surrounding Heaven formerly known as Naveah. ?

Let me know if a majority of these reports seem to be of the same cloth.

Use fact checker to run her FB and do name grab and plug that into the LCCC booking or other Perrysburg site. See if the pics of her match. That's a bit of homework for all of my keen brotheren that like to use their Spidey sense.

Then lastly let me know who seems credible. Dare I say that I have reported JUST the Facts in this Friendly World we live in.

MC.As a regular member in this forum, I just have to say. Dude, I simply can NOT take you seriously anymore.

Admin2
10-08-16, 18:52
You pugnacious guys learn to use this fight thread. There's going to be some guys going back on moderation otherwise.

A2

MrChill
10-08-16, 19:53
You pugnacious guys learn to use this fight thread. There's going to be some guys going back on moderation otherwise.

A2T Wolf is my Boy. Isn't that right T Wolf? If I would have wanted to direct something to him derogatory in any way I would have been stronger in my acumen.

We would Proly really get along if we ever met in real life and not on Pandora. (From Avatar movie). Is that the correct name of the Planet?

I am REMISS that I didn't clarify in my post that I did NOT take offense to anything T Wolf said or others. My Post was in reference to the clarification of "things" being said about Heaven formally Naveah from all the guys in the Frat. Does everyone follow that?

I'm CERTAIN that T Wolf did not take it the wrong way NOR do I believe that he directed anything to me directly that I would be offended at or couldn't take a little ribbing from him. Hey that's his online demeanor and I can appreciate that. I love it. In Fact we have had some great pm's. And actually for you newbies. That's where the real 411 is shared.

I Thot it was a good reference "of who's full of shit" and it was SOLELY a reference BTW my story and Heavens and that this storyline is NO Doubt circling around from what my esteemed colleagues are sharing with Heaven. And that's fine. Everyone's got to stand on their own two feet. I actually enjoyed the opportunity for a challenge to answer it. I share a slight bit of cockiness with T Wolf that I enjoy. It was a break in the day from work.

And hey this is what this forum is all about. A chance to have it out and make the choice on your own. See A2, all that worry was for nothin.

Next subject. I had one of my UTRs just text me and call me to kick it. So inasmuch as I just got home I'm headed out to grab a few drinks for her and a couple of covers and tap that bad ass *****. I will see if I can pull off a few pics of her (my UTR) with permission of course). Not sure why she doesn't want me to offer her up to the group.

MC.

Timberwolf
10-08-16, 20:11
T Wolf is my Boy. Isn't that right T Wolf? If I would have wanted to direct something to him derogatory in any way I would have been stronger in my acumen.

We would Proly really get along if we ever met in real life and not on Pandora. (From Avatar movie). Is that the correct name of the Planet?

I am REMISS that I didn't clarify in my post that I did NOT take offense to anything T Wolf said or others. My Post was in reference to the clarification of "things" being said about Heaven formally Naveah from all the guys in the Frat. Does everyone follow that?

I'm CERTAIN that T Wolf did not take it the wrong way NOR do I believe that he directed anything to me directly that I would be offended at or couldn't take a little ribbing from him. Hey that's his online demeanor and I can appreciate that. I love it. In Fact we have had some great pm's. And actually for you newbies. That's where the real 411 is shared.

I Thot it was a good reference "of who's full of shit" and it was SOLELY a reference BTW my story and Heavens and that this storyline is NO Doubt circling around from what my esteemed colleagues are sharing with Heaven. And that's fine. Everyone's got to stand on their own two feet. I actually enjoyed the opportunity for a challenge to answer it. I share a slight bit of cockiness with T Wolf that I enjoy. It was a break in the day from work.

And hey this is what this forum is all about. A chance to have it out and make the choice on your own. See A2, all that worry was for nothin.

Next subject. I had one of my UTRs just text me and call me to kick it. So inasmuch as I just got home I'm headed out to grab a few drinks for her and a couple of covers and tap that bad ass *****. I will see if I can pull off a few pics of her (my UTR) with permission of course). Not sure why she doesn't want me to offer her up to the group.

MC.No offense intended and none taken. But, here we are. Some people have no sense of humor.
If some douche is sharing with her, I wonder how long it will take for her to try defending herself here. Those train wrecks are so entertaining.

MrHungWell
10-09-16, 08:13
As a regular member in this forum, I just have to say. Dude, I simply can NOT take you seriously anymore.I take him seriously, but he seems to take himself too seriously LOL Appreciative of the info he provides but not sure of his need to prove his credibility to us, his reports seem accurate to me as they always have.

WorthlessNut
10-09-16, 10:29
My buddy saw her couple weeks ago, chipped tooth mattress on floor bbfscip, said she stayed in landlords mty places to help keep breakins down. No sign of drug use.

MrChill
10-10-16, 10:51
No offense intended and none taken. But, here we are. Some people have no sense of humor.
If some douche is sharing with her, I wonder how long it will take for her to try defending herself here. Those train wrecks are so entertaining."defending herself". Yea why should she even need to expend the energy to come on this website and make a report herself and give info when there's so many "white knights" willing to give even 2nd hand reports. Like oh my buddy saw her yea and my 3rd cousin also saw her that just happened to come into town last week because aunt Faye died when the mobile home fell on her and our favorite dog.

If she made her own account her and own report that would require her to wake up before 2 or 3 pm in the daytime. These peeps don't have regular jobs for a reason. They can't hold down more than a few hours a day or "work" and then they expect a hundo (100) or whatever. LOL.

If we pay more can we allocate some of that money for teefff repair (my spelling).

MC.

SlooHands
10-10-16, 11:47
My buddy saw her couple weeks ago, chipped tooth mattress on floor bbfscip, said she stayed in landlords mty places to help keep breakins down. No sign of drug use.I might as well get in this mess, she must of found out what was posted here because she says it's not true about drug use. Her uncle busted her 3 x already.

http://toledo.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/heaven/30897342

WorthlessNut
10-10-16, 16:12
"defending herself". Yea why should she even need to expend the energy to come on this website and make a report herself and give info when there's so many "white knights" willing to give even 2nd hand reports. Like oh my buddy saw her yea and my 3rd cousin also saw her that just happened to come into town last week because aunt Faye died when the mobile home fell on her and our favorite dog.

If she made her own account her and own report that would require her to wake up before 2 or 3 pm in the daytime. These peeps don't have regular jobs for a reason. They can't hold down more than a few hours a day or "work" and then they expect a hundo (100) or whatever. LOL.

If we pay more can we allocate some of that money for teefff repair (my spelling).

MC.I have nothing to hide, if I saw her personally I would have said I saw her. I have nothing to hide, and certainly nobody on this page to impress or to lie to. FYI.

MrChill
10-10-16, 22:04
I have nothing to hide, if I saw her personally I would have said I saw her. I have nothing to hide, and certainly nobody on this page to impress or to lie to. FYI.I stand corrected. My apologies WNut. I got your 2 pms.

Side note. Today I found her online arrest posts after they were spotted by Sloohands.

MC.

Timberwolf
10-11-16, 10:05
Today I found her online arrest posts after they were spotted by Sloohands.

MC.Where? I have not seen her on the booking summary.

WorthlessNut
10-11-16, 15:19
I stand corrected. My apologies WNut. I got your 2 pms.

Side note. Today I found her online arrest posts after they were spotted by Sloohands.

MC.No problem at all.

WorthlessNut
10-18-16, 15:23
Had a date with Heaven a few weeks back. Decide to try her out after she got a few good reviews.

Pros.

Nice petite spinner body. Pics are def here maybe a year or two older.

Had an incall in my neck of the woods.

Price was pretty standard.

Cons.

Ya she's def using.

Apartment was pretty much empty and I don't think it had electricity.

Had marks on her arms and the such from obviously using.

Lastly. She does offer BB. That can be a pro or a con so take that as you will.

Repeat in a pinch if no other options.All of those were previously reported.

Timberwolf
10-18-16, 20:40
All of those were previously reported.And most of it got moved to the Mud Hens Arena where it won't get seen by the peeps here looking for information. Suggesting that another monger's report is of little value or old news is bad form. There are those here that seem to be her regulars.

MrTru
10-19-16, 01:27
All of those were previously reported.Ya so what's your point?

I should not share my report becuz someone else said similar things?

I guess this isn't a review board? The point is to hear other people's stories to see if our experiences line up. That's how you sort the real from the fake. You understand that right?

SlooHands
10-19-16, 06:17
Ok so I took the chance and went to see Dior. $. 5 for a hhr. In call at hotel. Room was a complete mess. She hadn't shaved her legs. CBJ short and wanted to get down to business right away. Felt very rushed and she was not into it. Just wants the quick money. She is the girl in the pics. Body is decent but skills and service are mediocre at best. Not my worst experience with the hobby so far, but I will probably not repeat unless she drops her rates significantly. Even then she would be way down my list.

http://toledo.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/beautiful-blonde-model-type-100-me-or-its-free/32284576

My suggestion is don't waste your time. If you can negotiate a lower rate then maybe try it. Could have just been an off day her. IDK. Best of luck to anyone who gives this one a try. Hope your experience is better than mine was.I hope she looks better in person than her pics because she says she model material & I sure don't see it??

Codyrocks
10-19-16, 12:32
I hope she looks better in person than her pics because she says she model material & I sure don't see it??Legs not shaved! I think I just threw up in my mouth.

WorthlessNut
10-19-16, 17:41
Ya so what's your point?

I should not share my report becuz someone else said similar things?

I guess this isn't a review board? The point is to hear other people's stories to see if our experiences line up. That's how you sort the real from the fake. You understand that right?Chill out, all I said was previously reported. So instead of getting you dandruff up, you would have taken it for what it was. , a backing of your report. I love how sensitive some of you boys are.

WorthlessNut
10-19-16, 17:43
And most of it got moved to the Mud Hens Arena where it won't get seen by the peeps here looking for information. Suggesting that another monger's report is of little value or old news is bad form. There are those here that seem to be her regulars.Ok, you can simmer down to. I was not suggesting anything, I was emphasizing his. Plus I did not know others moved, like I told him relax a little, you guys are so ready to jump everyone for nothing. No wonder people do not want to post.

FreeToDo
10-19-16, 20:27
Thought I'd share something funny I heard on our local classic rock station today to lighten the mood in here. Bragging that you had sex with a prostitute is like bragging that you got some chips from a vending machine. But I think we will all agree chips are good, really good.

SlooHands
10-21-16, 08:49
Thought I'd share something funny I heard on our local classic rock station today to lighten the mood in here. Bragging that you had sex with a prostitute is like bragging that you got some chips from a vending machine. But I think we will all agree chips are good, really good.California Highway Patrol (CHIPS) LOL!!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-arrest-california-officer-on-prostitution-allegation/ar-AAjcSR4?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=UE01DHP

Timberwolf
10-21-16, 16:07
Thought I'd share something funny I heard on our local classic rock station today to lighten the mood in here. Bragging that you had sex with a prostitute is like bragging that you got some chips from a vending machine. But I think we will all agree chips are good, really good.What if the chips were free? But the purpose here is not bragging. Reporting your experiences so that other can make informed decisions is (or should be). Determining who is full of shit is the real challenge. There's no way the same lady is both clean and a junkie or that her incall is both well-kept and a trap house. Then the whole disagreement gets dumped in this forum where I doubt many will look for information on ladies that might be worthy of their time and money.

Timberwolf
10-21-16, 16:10
Legs not shaved! I think I just threw up in my mouth.That's some folks' "thing". Not mine, but some. Both hairy legs AND vomiting. I think there's a least one entire site devoted to Japanese girls puking.

Shou1987
12-08-16, 21:06
Hello all, I've lurked in the forums here for a few years, and always wanted to try the hobby but always chickened out. I finally saw a girl yesterday (nevaeh) though, and now I realize this isn't my thing. My minds got me totally convinced I have an std, which is probably ridiculous. Can someone on here ease my mind? I used protection, But I'm still freaking out.

Foocker11
12-09-16, 12:11
Hello all, I've lurked in the forums here for a few years, and always wanted to try the hobby but always chickened out. I finally saw a girl yesterday (nevaeh) though, and now I realize this isn't my thing. My minds got me totally convinced I have an std, which is probably ridiculous. Can someone on here ease my mind? I used protection, But I'm still freaking out.If you used protection and didn't go down on her I'm sure you're finger. But just simply go get tested if you're worried about it.

Timberwolf
12-09-16, 16:11
Hello all, I've lurked in the forums here for a few years, and always wanted to try the hobby but always chickened out. I finally saw a girl yesterday (nevaeh) though, and now I realize this isn't my thing. My minds got me totally convinced I have an std, which is probably ridiculous. Can someone on here ease my mind? I used protection, But I'm still freaking out.If you're freaking out now, wait for the next zit that pops up anywhere near your junk!

QuestForFun
12-11-16, 00:23
Hello all, I've lurked in the forums here for a few years, and always wanted to try the hobby but always chickened out. I finally saw a girl yesterday (nevaeh) though, and now I realize this isn't my thing. My minds got me totally convinced I have an std, which is probably ridiculous. Can someone on here ease my mind? I used protection, But I'm still freaking out.Black one or the white one. I think there's 2.

Shou1987
12-11-16, 06:32
Black one or the white one. I think there's 2.The black one.

WorthlessNut
12-11-16, 10:11
Black one or the white one. I think there's 2.There are now at least 2 of them.

TheBigDipper1
12-11-16, 18:31
The black one.Burn when you pee? Discharge? If not then you don't have Gonorrhea, Chlamydia or Trich as those have the aforementioned symptoms. Need more details, you use a rubber? What are your symptoms? Take 1000-2000 mgs Azithromycin in a single dose if you are really worried.

Shou1987
12-11-16, 20:53
Burn when you pee? Discharge? If not then you don't have Gonorrhea, Chlamydia or Trich as those have the aforementioned symptoms. Need more details, you use a rubber? What are your symptoms? Take 1000-2000 mgs Azithromycin in a single dose if you are really worried.No burning when I pee, but my penis has been aching since the day after, and every now and then it feels like my whole dick is slightly burning. I could be imagining that though since my mind has been constantly focused on my dick since then. I did use protection. What really freaked me out was after we did it, she was complaining about peeing blood, which really freaked me out. I'm gettin g tested Tuesday, so I'm hoping it's all good.

PastMyPrime
12-12-16, 14:45
While I will use the classic, "Only abstinence prevents STDs 100%" the reality is, if you used a rubber, don't worry about it. Why does your whole dick burn?

1) Friction. If she wasn't very lubed, you were getting rubbing due to the friction.

2) Allergy. Some people have mild latex allergies or are allergic to the spermicide on the condoms.

3) Teeth. I've had girls in the business give me a hummer and used too much teeth.

The reality is, it is probably all in your head. You did the right thing. The rubber didn't come off. Fairly respectable provider.

By the way, I spit out my drink at Timberwolf's comment.


No burning when I pee, but my penis has been aching since the day after, and every now and then it feels like my whole dick is slightly burning. I could be imagining that though since my mind has been constantly focused on my dick since then. I did use protection. What really freaked me out was after we did it, she was complaining about peeing blood, which really freaked me out. I'm gettin g tested Tuesday, so I'm hoping it's all good.

SunZad
12-15-16, 10:35
http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/13/12-more-charges-in-trb-prostitution-case

SlooHands
12-15-16, 13:29
http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/13/12-more-charges-in-trb-prostitution-caseYes, it sure makes it look like thery're doing something worthwhile. In the meantime overdoses of H are skyrocketing & kids are dying because of the huge supply of it on the streets, IF the Cops really want to do a great job why don't they go after them?? I know why the are afraid of them!! And the johns & hookers are a lot easier & they still get their brownie points in the news!!

Toledo Guy
12-15-16, 13:40
http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/13/12-more-charges-in-trb-prostitution-caseWow, I am totally flabbergasted. Talk about getting the easy prey. I wonder what the total fines they collected on each prosecution are and if it covered their costs.

I want to put everyone on notice that any previous posts I may have ever provided were and are pure fantasy and strictly for entertainment. Much like reading the Penthouse Forums.

I ran across a lawyer on this forum once that always put the below disclaimer in every one of his posts.

Disclaimer: The above is only a fantasy and should not be construed in any way that implies the commission of any act in violation of any local, state or federal laws.

PastMyPrime
12-15-16, 14:12
http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/13/12-more-charges-in-trb-prostitution-caseThis is so sad in so many ways:

1) Did you read the article? Most of the ladies mentioned were independent workers. Not girls with pimps. Not underage. Basically the same women we talk about on here.

2) How FEW they prosecuted. For whatever reason, they only had a couple they could grab. Were they single men who used a regular email? Were they married men who they knew they could embarrass into pleading?

3) Aren't we all just telling everyone our fantasies and not posting the truth?

Timberwolf
12-15-16, 15:22
http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/13/12-more-charges-in-trb-prostitution-caseJust another example of law enforcement perverting the law and judges legislating from the bench. If you want to get scared, do some research into the current state of personal property forfeiture laws. You don't even have to be charged, let alone convicted to lose your property including real estate, automobiles, and cash. An entire hotel was seized as part of the arrest of a drug dealer on premises. The burden of proof falls on YOU to prove that the property is yours and not connected to any illegal activity. Proceeds go to the law enforcement agency that did the seizure and can be spent w / o accountability as the government / taxpayers are not the source of the funds.

Dangerous One
04-16-17, 21:17
Good detective work Heiden. I don't get what the OP is trying to accomplish with these posts. Very odd.Really? You're the last person that should be calling anyone out. You post so much BS just to run your post count up, and the more I read your posts and see how you interact with the past and present Heather accounts it's no doubt you're either a provider with a monger account or Heather's puppet.

Jackknoff
04-17-17, 19:11
I looked at your posting history and your just a troll who tries to pick fights with other members. Go back to posting in Detroit and stay the hell of of here.


Really? You're the last person that should be calling anyone out. You post so much BS just to run your post count up, and the more I read your posts and see how you interact with the past and present Heather accounts it's no doubt you're either a provider with a monger account or Heather's puppet.Thanks RainyWeather. I couldn't have said it any better. I bet he will try to pick a fight with you now.

He provides no value. 26 posts. Mostly attacks on other members. 0 reviews.

Be careful he is a real "dangerous one" . That is if you consider a guy hiding behind his keyboard and shit talking to be dangerous.

Dangerous One
04-23-17, 19:27
I looked at your posting history and your just a troll who tries to pick fights with other members. Go back to posting in Detroit and stay the hell of of here.Its not trolling if its true, your BF likes to post BS just to run his post count up. Read his last 100 posts and tell me I'm wrong.

Dangerous One
04-23-17, 19:33
Thanks RainyWeather. I couldn't have said it any better. I bet he will try to pick a fight with you now.

He provides no value. 26 posts. Mostly attacks on other members. 0 reviews.

Be careful he is a real "dangerous one" . That is if you consider a guy hiding behind his keyboard and shit talking to be dangerous.Actually RainyWeather was the one who picked the fight with me. I never said a word to him or about him, he attacked me first. I'm not looking to start fights, but I do like to point out when someone is full of shit. You called out another member for his "BS" post (s) and IMHO you are the last one that should be doing that. You have almost 500 post and 95% of them are as useless as tits on on a nun. As you can see I don't live online, but if it makes you and your BF happy I'll stop by the Toledo forum to drag my nutsack across RainyWeather face once in a while.

Jackknoff
04-24-17, 15:59
Lmao you really are a little troll.


Thanks RainyWeather. I couldn't have said it any better. I bet he will try to pick a fight with you now.

He provides no value. 26 posts. Mostly attacks on other members. 0 reviews.

Be careful he is a real "dangerous one" . That is if you consider a guy hiding behind his keyboard and shit talking to be dangerous.Told you he would try to attack you. At least trolls are predictable.

He is so ridiculous. He has a smart ass / attacking comment to say about everything.

He is now up to 37 posts. Almost all attacks on other hobbyists. No actual reviews.

He's a real Internet gangster.

Dangerous One
05-16-17, 22:19
Told you he would try to attack you. At least trolls are predictable.

He is so ridiculous. He has a smart ass / attacking comment to say about everything.

He is now up to 37 posts. Almost all attacks on other hobbyists. No actual reviews.

He's a real Internet gangster.Again asshole, he attacked me first. I just put him in his place afterwords.

Admin2
05-20-17, 01:33
Some of you guys are thinking that anything goes on fight threads like this. It doesn't so let me review the rules.

You may call a guy a fucking douchbag, asshole, numbnuts, idiot (whatever) if you wish. You can tell him as often as you wish that he couldn't get laid in a ho-house. I honestly don't care. The single rule that is suspended for threads like this is arguing.

You may not offer the opportunity for violence, you may never ever offer violence on the forum. This includes "lets get together and talk this out" we all know what that means.

I can see that some of you were confused so I took no action beyond deleting the posts. Anybody else who does it after this post will immediately be banned. I don't really care what the fuck you guys do in your own lives but if it starts here you put us at risk and the boss says no to that.

A2

Dangerous One
05-23-17, 23:13
Well there can't be that many pussy in Toledo so I'm sure MeinFuhrer2 is adding me to members ignore lists to keep them from see my posts. At this rate I'll never get off moderation LOL.

Ahh I like what you did there, nobody has ever called me a nazi before. Well not today anyway.

You have a point though, I also don't ever see you getting off moderation.

MeinFuhrer zwei

Dangerous One
05-23-17, 23:18
Some of you guys are thinking that anything goes on fight threads like this. It doesn't so let me review the rules.

You may call a guy a fucking douchbag, asshole, numbnuts, idiot (whatever) if you wish. You can tell him as often as you wish that he couldn't get laid in a ho-house. I honestly don't care. The single rule that is suspended for threads like this is arguing.

You may not offer the opportunity for violence, you may never ever offer violence on the forum. This includes "lets get together and talk this out" we all know what that means.

I can see that some of you were confused so I took no action beyond deleting the posts. Anybody else who does it after this post will immediately be banned. I don't really care what the fuck you guys do in your own lives but if it starts here you put us at risk and the boss says no to that.

A2He didn't post it, he PM-ed to me. Now before you spew all that BS about PM's being private, its my fucking message I'll do what the hell I want to with it.

Ummm, no, I don't give a shit what you call it, don't post PM's people send you. If you want to print the messages you send feel free.

MeinFuhrerzwie

Member #5502
05-25-17, 08:34
He didn't post it, he PM-ed to me. Now before you spew all that BS about PM's being private, its my fucking message I'll do what the hell I want to with it.

Ummm, no, I don't give a shit what you call it, don't post PM's people send you. If you want to print the messages you send feel free.

MeinFuhrerzwieThis is a hoot! The Nazi Mod. NO POSTING FOR YOU. ONE YEAR!

Dangerous One
05-27-17, 11:42
Well there can't be that many pussy in Toledo so I'm sure MeinFuhrer2 is adding me to members ignore lists to keep them from see my posts. At this rate I'll never get off moderation LOL.

Ahh I like what you did there, nobody has ever called me a nazi before. Well not today anyway.

You have a point though, I also don't ever see you getting off moderation.

MeinFuhrer zweiFirst, I can't believe I didn't think of putting "zwei" instead of the number 2, you get one star for that.

Second, if you have that many members calling you a "powermad faggot nazi cocksucking loser that lives in his mom's basement" everyday, then maybe you should look into a Dale Carnegie course, or at least move out of your moms basement.

Third, if I promise to be extra-extra good can I get off moderation?

Forth, Happy Memorial Day. Thanks for serving Bubba.

Let me think about it.

No

Happy Memorial Day to you as well, for me it's May Revolution Day as well and I don't actually get to be thanked on Memorial Day cause I didn't die. Veterans Day is my day.

A2

PS, that wasn't intended to be a slight for those patriot that gave the last full measure. Seriously it wasn't.

Dangerous One
05-27-17, 11:46
[Deleted by Admin]

Greetings Everyone,

John Wise, or rather, Dangerous One posted that he/she will no longer be participating in the forum.

Pursuant to Forum Policy, I have deleted this resignation post and retired his/her membership.

Thanks,

Jackson

Wrong Way1
06-08-17, 17:15
I've had a lot of guys ask me about Michele Marie.

I saw he twice (2015 and 2016) each for an hour at $200.

She is now quoting me $500 an hour.

I've paid that twice in my hobby life. Those ladies were worth it. Michele on the other hand is not a $500 an hour hooker. $200 is realistic, especially at her age.

Yes she was fun hell, energetic, and her body was banging. Her face shows her age a bit. Face was about a six or a seven, body eight, and performance and enthusiasm eight or nine.

If she gets $500 from a fool, more power to her.StephenOh, you got mad at me for my post about Ryder, I wonder if someone is made at you for your post about Michele. My point is, we are all entitled to our opinions.

Member #5502
06-14-17, 07:51
You keep making jokes about bare backing these girls. They are hard up for money and you feed on that. One of these days that will catch up to you. You should think about that. I don't think you are funny.Every girl he gives a good review I cross off my list.

TheBigDipper1
06-14-17, 20:57
You are 100% right. I wouldn't see one of his jism receptacles for any price. You would be eating his leftovers. I think he is a pathetic loser who does bare back to increase his self esteem. He thinks he's special because they do him without a condom. They would do anything for extra money. He is a complete fuckwad.Fuckwad LOL!

Gray Patriot
06-14-17, 21:13
You are 100% right. I wouldn't see one of his jism receptacles for any price. You would be eating his leftovers. I think he is a pathetic loser who does bare back to increase his self esteem. He thinks he's special because they do him without a condom. They would do anything for extra money. He is a complete fuckwad.I am sure we are going to get push back from this but I have your back. This is some crazy ego shit that putts us all in jeopardy.

Be safe,

Gray.

Admin2
06-15-17, 00:15
I am sure we are going to get push back from this but I have your back. This is some crazy ego shit that putts us all in jeopardy.

Be safe,

Gray.This is why we have the "Safe Sex Complaining" infraction.

You're saying that his not using a condom is putting you at risk. That's right there in your post. So what you're telling me is that you don't think condoms work. Look, I'm a safety guy, 100% of the time. Always have been, always will be. However either condoms work or they don't. You can't have that both ways. You can't tell him that he needs to wear a condom in order to stop the spread of disease then tell him that him not wearing one makes you more likely to contract something while you are using them.

Either condoms work and it doesn't matter what he does or they don't and you should quite using them as well simple as that.

Further, you guys who wag your fingers at guys doing aren't thinking this through. If, as you say, him fucking some chick without a condom puts you at greater risk wouldn't you want to know what chicks are doing that so you can avoid them? I would. I would absolutely put great value in that information. Do you think fingerwaggen guys about it is going to make them more or less likely to share that very important information? Do you think it might encourage more guys who do that to report it thereby increasing the amount of information you get to make what is obviously an important choice for you. The thing is, you have to know that fingerwaggen them isn't going to stop them from doing it. It's not going to have any effect on that in anyway. So what's the purpose and what's the cost?

If this makes me an asshole and a piece of shit like the troll told me in a PM then so be it but that information is important and you guys should stop driving the people providing it underground.

A2.

Member #5502
06-15-17, 14:37
This is why we have the "Safe Sex Complaining" infraction.

You're saying that his not using a condom is putting you at risk. That's right there in your post. So what you're telling me is that you don't think condoms work. Look, I'm a safety guy, 100% of the time. Always have been, always will be. However either condoms work or they don't. You can't have that both ways. You can't tell him that he needs to wear a condom in order to stop the spread of disease then tell him that him not wearing one makes you more likely to contract something while you are using them.

Either condoms work and it doesn't matter what he does or they don't and you should quite using them as well simple as that.

Further, you guys who wag your fingers at guys doing aren't thinking this through. If, as you say, him fucking some chick without a condom puts you at greater risk wouldn't you want to know what chicks are doing that so you can avoid them? I would. I would absolutely put great value in that information. Do you think fingerwaggen guys about it is going to make them more or less likely to share that very important information? Do you think it might encourage more guys who do that to report it thereby increasing the amount of information you get to make what is obviously an important choice for you. The thing is, you have to know that fingerwaggen them isn't going to stop them from doing it. It's not going to have any effect on that in anyway. So what's the purpose and what's the cost?

If this makes me an asshole and a piece of shit like the troll told me in a PM then so be it but that information is important and you guys should stop driving the people providing it underground.

A2.Exactly. Serves a useful purpose to me. He who lives in a glass house.

Wrong Way1
06-15-17, 16:35
More then half the people in the hobby are having unprotected sex, if you don't believe that then you need to get your head out of the sand. From 10 dollar SW to 500 dollar escorts men are having unprotected sex (not just oral) with them.

Timberwolf
06-16-17, 13:55
Pretty sure I found this posted in another forum here. The current convo made me think of it.

Member #5502
06-19-17, 13:11
This is why we have the "Safe Sex Complaining" infraction.

You're saying that his not using a condom is putting you at risk. That's right there in your post. So what you're telling me is that you don't think condoms work. Look, I'm a safety guy, 100% of the time. Always have been, always will be. However either condoms work or they don't. You can't have that both ways. You can't tell him that he needs to wear a condom in order to stop the spread of disease then tell him that him not wearing one makes you more likely to contract something while you are using them.

Either condoms work and it doesn't matter what he does or they don't and you should quite using them as well simple as that.

Further, you guys who wag your fingers at guys doing aren't thinking this through. If, as you say, him fucking some chick without a condom puts you at greater risk wouldn't you want to know what chicks are doing that so you can avoid them? I would. I would absolutely put great value in that information. Do you think fingerwaggen guys about it is going to make them more or less likely to share that very important information? Do you think it might encourage more guys who do that to report it thereby increasing the amount of information you get to make what is obviously an important choice for you. The thing is, you have to know that fingerwaggen them isn't going to stop them from doing it. It's not going to have any effect on that in anyway. So what's the purpose and what's the cost?

If this makes me an asshole and a piece of shit like the troll told me in a PM then so be it but that information is important and you guys should stop driving the people providing it underground.

A2.On the other hand. Just because a hand gun is unloaded doesn't mean I'm going to put it into my mouth and pull the trigger; that's how Terry Kaith died. Sometimes it is better to be extra safe.

I'm not complaining and not "reporting" unsafe practices. To each his own. It's just one more reason why my foray into the lifestyle has been brief. I still find the forum conversations interesting so I lurk about from time to time.

Carry on.

SlimJim5678
06-19-17, 23:09
I'm from out of state and going to a couple of Mud Hens games at the end of the month. Why is there a Mud Hens Arena category here?

Bad Bird
06-20-17, 00:05
I'm from out of state and going to a couple of Mud Hens games at the end of the month. Why is there a Mud Hens Arena category here?It is a place for members with dick size complexes to say who is bigger. LOL. In other words this is where the BS is. It is entertaining sometimes.

Timberwolf
06-20-17, 09:01
It is a place for members with dick size complexes to say who is bigger. LOL. In other words this is where the BS is. It is entertaining sometimes.Only a portion of the best stuff gets moved here leaving both this and the original forum with a disconnected dialog. Since you brought up dick size. I'm talking about the actual conversation some of us were having re: Dick and condom sizes among the different races and sexual orientations. Scroll down to my previous post in this form to see what happens when you slip a magnum on a white boy.

WorthlessNut
06-20-17, 11:28
On the other hand. Just because a hand gun is unloaded doesn't mean I'm going to put it into my mouth and pull the trigger; that's how Terry Kaith died. Sometimes it is better to be extra safe.

I'm not complaining and not "reporting" unsafe practices. To each his own. It's just one more reason why my foray into the lifestyle has been brief. I still find the forum conversations interesting so I lurk about from time to time.

Carry on.Who is terry Kaith?

Timberwolf
06-20-17, 14:49
Who is terry Kaith?I think he means Terry Kath. Founding member of the band Chicago. Died of stupidity back in 1978.

Member #5502
06-21-17, 09:39
I think he means Terry Kath. Founding member of the band Chicago. Died of stupidity back in 1978.Kath. One of the best guitarists in history;.

WorthlessNut
07-04-17, 17:00
I think he means Terry Kath. Founding member of the band Chicago. Died of stupidity back in 1978.OK, googled it and read the story, thanks.

MetroRider
09-02-17, 11:11
Warning! - Do Not Click On Link If You Are A Sensitive Monger - This Is A Link To The Detroit Fight Thread!

I know a lot of Toledo and Detroit mongers see the same escorts so I thought I would post a link to a disagreement that's being discuss in the Detroit fight thread.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11202-MotorCity-Mayhem&p=3534064&viewfull=1#post3534064

StephenOh
09-03-17, 00:15
Warning! - Do Not Click On Link If You Are A Sensitive Monger - This Is A Link To The Detroit Fight Thread!

I know a lot of Toledo and Detroit mongers see the same escorts so I thought I would post a link to a disagreement that's being discuss in the Detroit fight thread.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11202-MotorCity-Mayhem&p=3534064&viewfull=1#post3534064Hey guys! I'm a licensed massage therapist and in school to be a physical therapist. I'm certified in many therapeutic techniques including deep tissue, myofascial release, and stress relief. Also, injury recovery.

$100/ hr, incall only, discount if you purchase multiple massages at one time.

*no funny business*.

*I'm not an escort anymore*.

[Deleted by Admin]

Toledo, Ohio area only.

Jackknoff
09-03-17, 13:21
You sure sound like a asslicking faggot that used to post under the username above. I recognize the balls across the face comment from one I got from another seaman sucker like you. You probably cry when your dom shoves his cock up your asshole. Do you lick your shit off his dick when your done? Have a great night!

DangerousOne/MetroRider: Very similar assholes

Definitely appears to have the same MO. Same wring style, similar statements. Both big trolling assholes.

Notice he started mouthing off as soon as Dangerousone gets neutered.

StephenOh
09-03-17, 14:01
You sure sound like a asslicking faggot that used to post under the username above. I recognize the balls across the face comment from one I got from another seaman sucker like you. You probably cry when your dom shoves his cock up your asshole. Do you lick your shit off his dick when your done? Have a great night!He has nothing better to do than troll people on an anonymous hobby board.

Happy Labor Day guys. Have fun!

Always Harder
09-12-17, 22:57
StephenOh, you are getting your ass handed to you in that Detroit fight thread.

StephenOh
09-13-17, 00:53
StephenOh, you are getting your ass handed to you in that Detroit fight thread.The entire site crashed when I tried to post this a couple minutes ago so I want to make sure your 18 year old, rookie hobby playing ass, gets this message clearly.


StephenOh, you are getting your ass handed to you in that Detroit fight thread.You get your ass handed to you with Metrorider's cumm drizzled all over it every night. Tell someone who actually cares about what you or metro think.

You are still a piece of shift for calling me out after I gave you perfectly good information on several ladies.

Get the fuck out of here. I'm done with that piece of trash metro and done with fuckers like you.

IDGAF what someone thinks or says about me on this or any anonymous hooker review site. The sooner you learn this for yourself the better.

I know the pussy I've scored with and that's why I am here, to talk about and share information regarding these fine ass ladies, not jerk off with trolls like you or your girlfriend Metrorider.

This will be the last time I even acknowledge your pathetic existence on this board.

Best wishes to you.

WorthlessNut
09-13-17, 02:30
StephenOh, you are getting your ass handed to you in that Detroit fight thread.What a bunch of bitches. So important question. Is jade still fucking for $ or is Stephen o paying her bills like a whipped *****?

StephenOh
09-13-17, 18:00
What a bunch of bitches. So important question. Is jade still fucking for $ or is Stephen o paying her bills like a whipped *****?You are named appropriately so, as your comment is totally useless.

I've only seen her four or five times in four years or so. She is of my exact favorite type. Great girl, but the Ryders, Kendal Burkes, and Bella Moores are more up my ally.

I have said it before and will say it again, I don't care one way or another what she does, my point is that she masse made it VERY clear on several boards that she is going on a new direction. The dumbass Metrorider claimed she was doing different, but not see her, not did he confirm a session. He was just spreading a rumor. I simply asked him to confirm and he did not because 90% of his posts or false, groundless, and he exists to simply stir the pot.

Now Jade was a respectable provider and he was spreading blatant lies. The prick failed to provide further details and his behind his keyboard.

WorthlessNut
09-14-17, 02:20
You are named appropriately so, as your comment is totally useless.

I've only seen her four or five times in four years or so. She is of my exact favorite type. Great girl, but the Ryders, Kendal Burkes, and Bella Moores are more up my ally.

I have said it before and will say it again, I don't care one way or another what she does, my point is that she masse made it VERY clear on several boards that she is going on a new direction. The dumbass Metrorider claimed she was doing different, but not see her, not did he confirm a session. He was just spreading a rumor. I simply asked him to confirm and he did not because 90% of his posts or false, groundless, and he exists to simply stir the pot.

Now Jade was a respectable provider and he was spreading blatant lies. The prick failed to provide further details and his behind his keyboard.I'm just screwing with you. I could care a less who supports who.

Always Harder
09-14-17, 19:34
The entire site crashed when I tried to post this a couple minutes ago so I want to make sure your 18 year old, rookie hobby playing ass, gets this message clearly.

You get your ass handed to you with Metrorider's cumm drizzled all over it every night. Tell someone who actually cares about what you or metro think.

You are still a piece of shift for calling me out after I gave you perfectly good information on several ladies.

Get the fuck out of here. I'm done with that piece of trash metro and done with fuckers like you.

IDGAF what someone thinks or says about me on this or any anonymous hooker review site. The sooner you learn this for yourself the better.

I know the pussy I've scored with and that's why I am here, to talk about and share information regarding these fine ass ladies, not jerk off with trolls like you or your girlfriend Metrorider.

This will be the last time I even acknowledge your pathetic existence on this board.

Best wishes to you.1st. This is one of your many problems, you assume too much. I've been around for years, I was on EV and AES from the start. I've also been on every hobby board that came after them.

2nd. Apparently you do, judging from how upset you get and the fact that you just can't let it go.

3rd. There's no way on earth this will be the last time you acknowledge this topic. Guys like you always have to have the last word.

Always Harder
09-14-17, 19:59
You are still a piece of shift for calling me out after I gave you perfectly good information on several ladies.Lets recap


Who would be recommend escort Toledo 350 range. In vegas we pay up to 700 hour good looking plus great at the trade BB. Thanks.


Its Toledo, that caliber of escort doesn't exist here. Good luck though.


If You know where to look there are a few.


Please, where should I be looking?You then sent me a PM with a list of 10 ish ladies, all of which work in Michigan. Now I'll refer back to post #3457991 where I said (and I quote) "Its Toledo, that caliber of escort doesn't exist here. Good luck though." I was only talking about the "city" of Toledo. Sure providers like Ryder may live here but they spend a majority of there time working in Detroit and Grand Rapids. McCartneyDream was looking for "Las Vegas" type providers, they don't exist in Toledo. That's why most of us travel North to Detroit. There was no reason for you to challenge my post except for the fact that you like to act like a big shot to other members, especially the ones you "think" are new to the hobby.

P.S. I know one of Ryder's White Knight's is going to tell me how she worked in Vegas. FYI, she didn't last very long out there did she? A week or two doesn't make you a Las Vegas escort.

DetroitWill
09-14-17, 21:18
I'm just screwing with you. I could care a less who supports who.Please check your pm s.

WorthlessNut
09-15-17, 02:09
Please check your pm s.I am. I work nights so I don't look during evening.

AirPilot69
09-15-17, 14:52
Since when is buying pussy scoring that's a new one on any monger ROFLMAO

Wait, I just want to make sure I get this right. You're trying to shame him for buying pussy on a web site for commercial sex, why you are a member of?
Can you smell what I'm cooking?
A2

The entire site crashed when I tried to post this a couple minutes ago so I want to make sure your 18 year old, rookie hobby playing ass, gets this message clearly.

You get your ass handed to you with Metrorider's cumm drizzled all over it every night. Tell someone who actually cares about what you or metro think.

You are still a piece of shift for calling me out after I gave you perfectly good information on several ladies.

Get the fuck out of here. I'm done with that piece of trash metro and done with fuckers like you.

IDGAF what someone thinks or says about me on this or any anonymous hooker review site. The sooner you learn this for yourself the better.

I know the pussy I've scored with and that's why I am here, to talk about and share information regarding these fine ass ladies, not jerk off with trolls like you or your girlfriend Metrorider.

This will be the last time I even acknowledge your pathetic existence on this board.

Best wishes to you..

MetroRider
09-18-17, 00:24
You are named appropriately so, as your comment is totally useless.

I've only seen her four or five times in four years or so. She is of my exact favorite type. Great girl, but the Ryders, Kendal Burkes, and Bella Moores are more up my ally.

I have said it before and will say it again, I don't care one way or another what she does, my point is that she masse made it VERY clear on several boards that she is going on a new direction. The dumbass Metrorider claimed she was doing different, but not see her, not did he confirm a session. He was just spreading a rumor. I simply asked him to confirm and he did not because 90% of his posts or false, groundless, and he exists to simply stir the pot.

Now Jade was a respectable provider and he was spreading blatant lies. The prick failed to provide further details and his behind his keyboard.Looks like StephenOh was wrong. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11202-MotorCity-Mayhem&p=3553003&viewfull=1#post3553003.

However I do accept his apology and admitting I was right.

MetroRider
09-18-17, 00:28
Since when is buying pussy scoring that's a new one on any monger ROFLMAO

Wait, I just want to make sure I get this right. You're trying to shame him for buying pussy on a web site for commercial sex, why you are a member of?
Can you smell what I'm cooking?
A2
.I think LeoColumbus was trying to shame StephenOh for acting like a mack daddy stud. You're not gods gift to women if you're paying for it.

StephenOh
09-18-17, 06:47
Is on the move. He can't help himself. His keyboard posse will follow him to the ends of the earth.

Instead of chasing pussy he chases stoties about pussy. Pathetic excuse for a hobbit.

MetroRider
09-18-17, 18:02
You are full of shit and don't know shit. Proof positive.

I don't care one way or another what she does, but when a pussy like you can't back up what he says or answer a simple fucking question and deflects questions I will call you out.

It's time to add you to the ignore list.


Is on the move. He can't help himself. His keyboard posse will follow him to the ends of the earth.

Instead of chasing pussy he chases stoties about pussy. Pathetic excuse for a hobbit.And you can't stop lying or reading my posts where I make you my littlebitch (its not hard).

MetroRider
09-18-17, 18:12
You sure sound like a asslicking faggot that used to post under the username above. I recognize your balls across my face. You probably cry when your dom shoves his cock up your asshole. Do you lick your shit off his dick when your done? Have a great night!I don't think I ever had my balls on your face, I thought you just kissed the tip of my dick (maybe I'm wrong). You sound like an angry littlebitch that needs to see a therapist, or at least change your diet of cum and licking homeless dudes assholes. Maybe even try some yoga.

StephenOh
09-18-17, 18:13
Different usernames the troll has?

StephenOh
09-18-17, 23:11
You are a dick. Fuck you.You always speak the truth. I respect that!

Jackknoff
09-19-17, 14:06
Different usernames the troll has?I am pretty sure he has quite a few. You can see it in the posting style.

MetroRider
09-19-17, 18:54
I am pretty sure he has quite a few. You can see it in the posting style.Was it the font size or style that gave me away? God you're a dumb-ass. Keep up the useless (as tits on a nun) posts, JackOff. You will have 1000 posts of nothing before you know it.

MetroRider
09-19-17, 18:55
Rainy, you always cum on my face. I like that!I new you two were homos.

MetroRider
09-19-17, 19:01
You are a dick. Fuck you.That's all you got? Really, that's the best you can do?

You are a pathetic little old milkshake cocksucker that loves to blow dudes through glory holes at bookstores around town to earn enough money to buy StephenOh an engagement ring.

StephenOh
09-19-17, 19:08
Look at him go. He can't help himself. He gets off on his own posts.

If anyone needs to get laid it is our favorite troll.

Jackknoff
09-19-17, 20:29
I new you two were homos.You are the one that keeps discussing your gay fantasies on a hetrosexual site.

I'm pretty sure you are in the wrong place.

MetroRider
09-19-17, 22:53
Look at him go. He can't help himself. He gets off on his own posts.

If anyone needs to get laid it is our favorite troll.Coming from the guy that keeps logging out to read my posts and then logging back in to reply to them. You can get banned for that ass-wipe, I'd hate to see you go.

MetroRider
09-19-17, 22:55
I have to admit you're good at putting up fake shit. I never posted what you put up. Anyone can hit see post. You aren't the waste of time. You are really pathetic.How many Prozac did your old limp dick ass take before you typed this?

AirPilot69
09-20-17, 10:53
Some escorts will drop their prices if you review their ass to excellent fucks happens all the time


i think leocolumbus was trying to shame stephenoh for acting like a mack daddy stud. You're not gods gift to women if you're paying for it..

StephenOh
09-20-17, 19:33
Makes a good point. I have been very happy with the ladies I have chosen to meet and have had fun with and happy with my decision to not see other ladies.

We have different tastes in women and preferences and different allowances. To each his own.

At the end of the day, who cares what you call it so long as you have fun, respect one anothers rules, and keep it professional.

I appreciate the feedback LEO. I'll never use the term "score" on a board again.

StephenOh
09-26-17, 06:30
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A2

MetroRider
09-27-17, 23:10
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MetroRider
09-28-17, 18:14
Jackknoff - RainyWeather - StephenOh

Has anyone seen these three pussys? I need my shoes shined.

MetroRider
09-29-17, 15:58
Even if people tell you to STFU you will just pick up the torch with one of your other IDs. By the way, your other alias votes shouldn't count as well.


OK JackOff, post a list of names that you think are me and those names can't vote. Lets see what you got shit talker.


OK motherfucker, post the list of names. 2nd request.I've seen you online more then once shit talker, post a list of my "other IDs." 3rd request.

MetroRider
09-29-17, 23:23
I have looked at ads on Backpage for years. There's no doubt that their recent changes have seriously cut down on the number of girls who post. I haven't seen ads from these girls who used to post everyday: Faith, Crystal, Samantha, Amber Rayne, Vae (at least the last two weeks), Mackenzie (reportedl smelly snatch with the playboy tattoo), Princess (AA that doesn't post pictures), etc. Does anyone know where the girls are posting? Thanks.They asked us not to tell you because of your old wrinkly balls.

MetroRider
09-29-17, 23:43
Hey Jackson what do you tell women that you are trying to pick up: hey babe I edit a site where American guys post about banging $100 crackheads. I bet that really impresses them. Lmao.

It works a whole lot better than "my hobbies? I spend a lot of time trolling guys on an internet forum about commercial sex. How about you? What do you like to do when you're not working?"

A2RainyWeather, your old dumb ass does realize that Jackson and A2 are two different people, right? A2 is short for Admin #2, Jackson being the first Admin.

MetroRider
09-29-17, 23:44
StephenOh over pays hookers because hes a dumb ass.

MetroRider
10-03-17, 19:18
I've seen you online more then once shit talker, post a list of my "other IDs." 3rd request.Jackknoff - Just stay under your fucking rock you shit talking pussy, we all know now that you're talking out of your ass. 4th request, post a list of my "other IDs."

Fannima30
10-03-17, 20:08
Metro,

Put those users on Ignore if you don't like them that much. Kind of simple. Thanks for the entertainment though. I live in a much larger city and no one behaves like you.

StephenOh
10-04-17, 18:21
Metro,

Put those users on Ignore if you don't like them that much. Kind of simple. Thanks for the entertainment though. I live in a much larger city and no one behaves like you.Metro Spends more time talking about other guys. Everyone equates him to an annoying little brother who brags about knowing everything, but has experienced absolutely nothing in the hobby. His contributions have been dimwitted and useless at best.

Without actually putting him on ignore, he is ignored. No one here finds him as cute and entertaining as you do. To each his own. Give him a little time and he will throw some shade at you to.

Where do you typically play? No, I have not trolled your account to check where you post.

Peace.

MetroRider
10-04-17, 18:24
Metro, Put those users on Ignore if you don't like them that much. Kind of simple.No fucking shit ass wipe, I know how the ignore system works.


Thanks for the entertainment though.If you would like to thank me you can do it by staying the hell off the "fight thread," since your little pink pussy can't take it.


I live in a much larger city and no one behaves like you.That's because Cleveland has a bunch of pussy ass littlebitches like you in it.

Think about what you did asshole (your post), how did you think I was going to respond to it? You asked to get bitchslapped and you got bitchslapped, now get your ass out on East Broadway and make daddy some money.

MetroRider
10-04-17, 18:31
Calling all Ravishing Ryder white knights, calling all Ravishing Ryder white knights, you better get your asses over to the Detroit escort thread and defend your ATF hooker, she's taking a beating.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4499-Escort-Reports.

MetroRider
10-05-17, 16:03
Metro Spends more time talking about other guys. Everyone equates him to an annoying little brother who brags about knowing everything, but has experienced absolutely nothing in the hobby. His contributions have been dimwitted and useless at best.

Without actually putting him on ignore, he is ignored. No one here finds him as cute and entertaining as you do. To each his own. Give him a little time and he will throw some shade at you to.

Where do you typically play? No, I have not trolled your account to check where you post.

Peace.StephenOh,

Like I told you before ass hole, I've been around since the days of EV and AES. Why do you always talk out your ass, you have no fucking idea what I've done. Just because I don't post it here doesn't mean shit. God you are such a dumb motherfucker.

StephenOh
10-05-17, 18:13
StephenOh,

Like I told you before ass hole, I've been around since the days of EV and AES. Why do you always talk out your ass, you have no fucking idea what I've done. Just because I don't post it here doesn't mean shit. God you are such a dumb motherfucker.Yet, you still don't contribute anything worth shit on any of the boards. All you do is lay around on your fat ass, jerking off to this website, and pester dudes all day. You don't have a regular life, nor do you have a hobby life. You don't have the balls to visit a chick worth more than $40 a pop becuase you know for a fucking fact that they will turn your sorry, good for nothing, lazy, mother fucking, cheap ass away.

Go back to 8 mile, pick up your $20 hooker strung out on Heroin and shut the fuck up you lousy piece of shit.

Your mommy know what you are doing on her computer? Wait, she probably paid for your first hooker because nobody would date your smelly, shit stained under wear, 3 inch crotch hair, 2 inch dick good for nothing son.

I will go back to ignoring your useles posts now.

WorthlessNut
10-06-17, 02:37
Calling all Ravishing Ryder white knights, calling all Ravishing Ryder white knights, you better get your asses over to the Detroit escort thread and defend your ATF hooker, she's taking a beating.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4499-Escort-Reports.Dam, she pissed someone off.

MetroRider
10-06-17, 21:37
Yet, you still don't contribute anything worth shit on any of the boards. All you do is lay around on your fat ass, jerking off to this website, and pester dudes all day. You don't have a regular life, nor do you have a hobby life. You don't have the balls to visit a chick worth more than $40 a pop becuase you know for a fucking fact that they will turn your sorry, good for nothing, lazy, mother fucking, cheap ass away.

Go back to 8 mile, pick up your $20 hooker strung out on Heroin and shut the fuck up you lousy piece of shit.

Your mommy know what you are doing on her computer? Wait, she probably paid for your first hooker because nobody would date your smelly, shit stained under wear, 3 inch crotch hair, 2 inch dick good for nothing son.

I will go back to ignoring your useles posts now.I don't go by MetroRider on the other boards dumb ass, just like you don't go by StephenOh on TER or MWC. Don't worry I won't out you, I may be an asshole but do have some hobby etiquette.

StephenOh
10-07-17, 05:50
I don't go by MetroRider on the other boards dumb ass, just like you don't go by StephenOh on TER or MWC. Don't worry I won't out you, I may be an asshole but do have some hobby etiquette.First of all, you son't even know all the boards I am on nor under what pseudonyms. Is that word to big for you?

Etiquette? You call flirting with a bunch of guys on this board, hoping to get one of them to fuck you like a freight train etiquette? No, you are a classless asshole who has ZERO stories to share on ladies you've seen in the past year.

MetroRider
10-07-17, 11:49
Yet, you still don't contribute anything worth shit on any of the boards. All you do is lay around on your fat ass, jerking off to this website, and pester dudes all day. You don't have a regular life, nor do you have a hobby life. You don't have the balls to visit a chick worth more than $40 a pop becuase you know for a fucking fact that they will turn your sorry, good for nothing, lazy, mother fucking, cheap ass away.

Go back to 8 mile, pick up your $20 hooker strung out on Heroin and shut the fuck up you lousy piece of shit.

Your mommy know what you are doing on her computer? Wait, she probably paid for your first hooker because nobody would date your smelly, shit stained under wear, 3 inch crotch hair, 2 inch dick good for nothing son.

I will go back to ignoring your useles posts now.


First of all, you son't even know all the boards I am on nor under what pseudonyms. Is that word to big for you?

Etiquette? You call flirting with a bunch of guys on this board, hoping to get one of them to fuck you like a freight train etiquette? No, you are a classless asshole who has ZERO stories to share on ladies you've seen in the past year.So much for "ignoring" my useles (it's useless dumb-ass) posts, just another lie. Sure I've only posted a few short reviews on this site, but at least I don't make shit up to try and look like a real monger. You're such a whining, lying, littlebitch.

StephenOh
10-07-17, 12:01
So much for "ignoring" my useles (it's useless dumb-ass) posts, just another lie. Sure I've only posted a few short reviews on this site, but at least I don't make shit up to try and look like a real monger. You're such a whining, lying, littlebitch.Where is your proof that I make shit up?

I have shared more advice with guys on this site and others in the past six months than you have in all your years of pseudo mongering.

I never make shit up. I don't need to. You are just jealous because your lazy, cheap, fat ass can't afford anything above $40 an hour. Some of us have tastes and standards.

I have NEVER made up a review or an enounter. Whether you believe me or not I could care less. Keep hating on me if it gives you a sense of purpose, belonging, and makes you feel better about yourself.

You are so pathetic. Hope gou have a nice weekend jerking off to more of these posts. Some day I hope you have the courage to see a real woman in the business and to tell us all about it. Why do you get a kick out jerking the guys around? You truly have no life.

WorthlessNut
10-07-17, 12:33
So much for "ignoring" my useles (it's useless dumb-ass) posts, just another lie. Sure I've only posted a few short reviews on this site, but at least I don't make shit up to try and look like a real monger. You're such a whining, lying, littlebitch.Should be little *****, just saying. I got to start making popcorn when I read this stuff.

MetroRider
10-07-17, 16:29
Should be little *****, just saying. I got to start making popcorn when I read this stuff.You can't post little * you have to make it one word (littlebitch), it's the auto correction software. Jackson feels words like bit-ch and who-re are derogatory towards women so he doesn't allow them. However A2 does allow them in the fight threads. Funny how those words are derogatory towards women but posting pictures of a 10 dollar SW with cum all over her face isn't.

MetroRider
10-07-17, 18:26
Where is your proof that I make shit up?

I have shared more advice with guys on this site and others in the past six months than you have in all your years of pseudo mongering.

I never make shit up. I don't need to. You are just jealous because your lazy, cheap, fat ass can't afford anything above $40 an hour. Some of us have tastes and standards.

I have NEVER made up a review or an enounter. Whether you believe me or not I could care less. Keep hating on me if it gives you a sense of purpose, belonging, and makes you feel better about yourself.

You are so pathetic. Hope gou have a nice weekend jerking off to more of these posts. Some day I hope you have the courage to see a real woman in the business and to tell us all about it. Why do you get a kick out jerking the guys around? You truly have no life.We keep going round and round and I keep make you look like a pathetic littlebitch in your hometown. The only two that came to your aid was that old dumb ass milkshake RainyWeather who shit his pants after I gave him a beat down and the king of nothing posts Jackknoff (still waiting for that list Jack). So you couldn't shared to much. Not to mention your fake review posting ass is on moderation.

StephenOh
10-07-17, 20:42
We keep going round and round and I keep make you look like a pathetic littlebitch in your hometown. The only two that came to your aid was that old dumb ass milkshake RainyWeather who shit his pants after I gave him a beat down and the king of nothing posts Jackknoff (still waiting for that list Jack). So you couldn't shared to much. Not to mention your fake review posting ass is on moderation.I don't need to be white knighted by others here. My reputation proceeds me with those I choose to see. I don't need validated by you or other blokes and punters. You are a sad shell of a man whose only meaning in life is derived from ripping other men on a lame, anonymous hooker discussion board.

Time for you to take a deep look at your life and find something impactful for you to do. If your life is defined by your board posts I feel deeply sorry for you.

Regards.

MetroRider
10-08-17, 11:30
I don't need to be white knighted by others here. My reputation proceeds me with those I choose to see. I don't need validated by you or other blokes and punters. You are a sad shell of a man whose only meaning in life is derived from ripping other men on a lame, anonymous hooker discussion board.

Time for you to take a deep look at your life and find something impactful for you to do. If your life is defined by your board posts I feel deeply sorry for you.

Regards.You talk so much shit but yet not one provider (that you claim like you so much) has made one post saying anything nice about you. Not even a "it was nice to see you too," after you posted a review. The only info you pass on to other mongers are the reviews you get from the Michigan boards, not your personal experience.

You're a FAKE fucking monger!

StephenOh
10-08-17, 12:14
You talk so much shit but yet not one provider (that you claim like you so much) has made one post saying anything nice about you. Not even a "it was nice to see you too," after you posted a review. The only info you pass on to other mongers are the reviews you get from the Michigan boards, not your personal experience.

You're a FAKE fucking monger!There is a goid reason you do not hear from girls on this board, Lladies in general do not log onto this board or others and "shine" their clients. Also, you are a moron, guys do not need white knighted by the ladies. We pay money, they put out, obey the boundaries, respect privacy, and we play again.

90% or more of the ladies I see do not waste their time reading or checking this board because they know it is (or was) backpage and street walker dominated, and I never see street walkers and rarely played with BP. What percentage of messages even come from the ladies on this board? You are a true fucking moron.

See, the ladies appreciate a client who does not haggle over pricing, short change the envelope (them again, you don't have to use an envelope when all you pay are two twenties). Once you start paying over $120 (someday you should try it) you'll find an envelope or blank card is helpful and considerate.

You know what you are? You are a sad and lonely man whose best hobbying and non-hobbying days are behind him. You are angry at others who get to play with hotter women than you ever did. You are angry at yourself for the years, time, and money wasted on a hobby that had little to no return on investment. You are pissed at your own pathetic life and transpose that anger on others here.

I am as real as it gets. I know who I have seen, I know who I have recommended, and I know who I have referred.

Sorry I was not around sooner to help you with your hobby game, to recommend ladies who are not addicted to some drug, or working their 10th client of the day for you to be the 10th or 11th man up.

It's not too late for you to turn things around. All you need to do is turn your negative, piece of shit, good for nothing, temperamental attitude around and you might actually meet some pretty cool people (espcially ladies) in this hobby.

I bet you can't even go a week without logging into this or any other hooker board you belong to. Your brain craves this shit. This is probably the only social or emotional interaction you get in your life so you can't stop. Do us all a favor, take a break. You need it.

Nothing fake about me. You only wish I was making shit up because you are jealous of the pussy I have been with that you could not even come close to. One look at your sorry ass, beer bellied, double / triple chinned, smelly crotch, sweat pant wearing loser ass will send the girls running, or the doors slamming in your face.

I once asked you to prove that a lady was still providing. You got all pissy about it and whined like a bastard. You have no proof or evidence that I am lying about who I say I saw. In your head you can't fathom that a guy would pay more than $150 or $200 for a date. So you get all mad and make shit up and bring others down to your level. If it's one thing I don't do is lie I know this is not the most wholesome of hobbies, but even I have honor among thieves.

Shut your stupid ass and only speak of what you know for sure is the truth. Talk about YOUR OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES and stop ripping on someone esle's.

In other words, share with us all who you have seen. Not five, 10, or 20 years ago. Girls you have seen in the past six months. Until then your words, posts, and opinions don't mean shit. Your senior member status is as hollow as they come. Hollow as your life.

MetroRider
10-14-17, 01:18
There is a goid reason you do not hear from girls on this board, Lladies in general do not log onto this board or others and "shine" their clients. Also, you are a moron, guys do not need white knighted by the ladies. We pay money, they put out, obey the boundaries, respect privacy, and we play again.

90% or more of the ladies I see do not waste their time reading or checking this board because they know it is (or was) backpage and street walker dominated, and I never see street walkers and rarely played with BP. What percentage of messages even come from the ladies on this board? You are a true fucking moron.

See, the ladies appreciate a client who does not haggle over pricing, short change the envelope (them again, you don't have to use an envelope when all you pay are two twenties). Once you start paying over $120 (someday you should try it) you'll find an envelope or blank card is helpful and considerate.

You know what you are? You are a sad and lonely man whose best hobbying and non-hobbying days are behind him. You are angry at others who get to play with hotter women than you ever did. You are angry at yourself for the years, time, and money wasted on a hobby that had little to no return on investment. You are pissed at your own pathetic life and transpose that anger on others here.

I am as real as it gets. I know who I have seen, I know who I have recommended, and I know who I have referred.

Sorry I was not around sooner to help you with your hobby game, to recommend ladies who are not addicted to some drug, or working their 10th client of the day for you to be the 10th or 11th man up.

It's not too late for you to turn things around. All you need to do is turn your negative, piece of shit, good for nothing, temperamental attitude around and you might actually meet some pretty cool people (espcially ladies) in this hobby.

I bet you can't even go a week without logging into this or any other hooker board you belong to. Your brain craves this shit. This is probably the only social or emotional interaction you get in your life so you can't stop. Do us all a favor, take a break. You need it.

Nothing fake about me. You only wish I was making shit up because you are jealous of the pussy I have been with that you could not even come close to. One look at your sorry ass, beer bellied, double / triple chinned, smelly crotch, sweat pant wearing loser ass will send the girls running, or the doors slamming in your face.

I once asked you to prove that a lady was still providing. You got all pissy about it and whined like a bastard. You have no proof or evidence that I am lying about who I say I saw. In your head you can't fathom that a guy would pay more than $150 or $200 for a date. So you get all mad and make shit up and bring others down to your level. If it's one thing I don't do is lie I know this is not the most wholesome of hobbies, but even I have honor among thieves.

Shut your stupid ass and only speak of what you know for sure is the truth. Talk about YOUR OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES and stop ripping on someone esle's.

In other words, share with us all who you have seen. Not five, 10, or 20 years ago. Girls you have seen in the past six months. Until then your words, posts, and opinions don't mean shit. Your senior member status is as hollow as they come. Hollow as your life.You are a FAKE fucking monger!

Ump1969
10-17-17, 02:31
Please forgive me for butting in and being a busy body. But why hasn't the moderator of this board put a stop to the s*t below?

WorthlessNut
10-17-17, 11:22
Please forgive me for butting in and being a busy body. But why hasn't the moderator of this board put a stop to the s*t below?Because this link is about being an asshole to other mongers, and pretending you are the best monger and know it all and calling others names. Unless you call someone a F at & or something like that or threaten a physical assault, he normally does not care.

MetroRider
10-17-17, 18:37
Please forgive me for butting in and being a busy body. But why hasn't the moderator of this board put a stop to the s*t below?Because its a fucking "fight thread" you dumb fucking asshole. Why don't you take your little pink pussy ass back to where you came from and you won't have to read my words.

MetroRider
10-26-17, 22:14
Did you guys hear, A2's going to give Ryder AIDS - http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11202-MotorCity-Mayhem&p=3598809&viewfull=1#post3598809.

WorthlessNut
10-27-17, 03:27
Did you guys hear, A2's going to give Ryder AIDS - http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11202-MotorCity-Mayhem&p=3598809&viewfull=1#post3598809.I read that this morning, not sure I went were you did, but she must have pissed him off, like that is a tough thing to do.

MetroRider
10-28-17, 19:17
I read that this morning, not sure I went were you did, but she must have pissed him off, like that is a tough thing to do.Maybe she should give him freebies like she's done with so many other Michigan board owners / admins.

MetroRider
10-28-17, 19:34
Yes she is. I would tell you to go see her so you can find out what the absolute bottom is like but A2 would frown on that. So avoid at all possible costs. It is a true experience though.You're such a D-bag.

MetroRider
11-08-17, 21:33
That's one of those movies that you can just watch over and over again.This one post has more value then all of Jackknoff's posts combined.

Still waiting on that list of names shit talker, this is like my 5th request. Fucking pussy.

MetroRider
11-08-17, 22:28
I have saw Tonya she is one gorgeous lady and she doesn't charge a penny outside the club, she comes from money. In med school you of M plastic surgeon.

Is he profession to B. And her skills are magnificent. Her body is oar excellent. I have some reservations on who has actually saw her. I did last night.

I couldn't sleep thinking about her WOW.Could you guys keep this dumb motherfucker in T-town? Thanks.

WorthlessNut
11-09-17, 11:41
Could you guys keep this dumb motherfucker in T-town? Thanks.Fuck no, you deserve him, we got him a bus ticket already.

MetroRider
11-09-17, 18:30
Fuck no, you deserve him, we got him a bus ticket already.You fuckers in Toledo do this shit all the time, you ship your trash to other states. Oh well, at least we didn't get stuck with that asshole Philthy Rich (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/member.php?233216-Philthy-Rich/page.html). Anyone one remember that piece of dog shit?

PickyClient
11-10-17, 23:49
You fuckers in Toledo do this shit all the time, you ship your trash to other states. Oh well, at least we didn't get stuck with that asshole Philthy Rich (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/member.php?233216-Philthy-Rich/page.html). Anyone one remember that piece of dog shit?Fucking A.

Mystery Mantis
11-11-17, 00:11
Totally objective question for A2.

I know we can't really address you in the regular forums, but is it ok in the arena? I don't really have anything now, jsut want to know for future possibilities. If not, then it's cool.

It depends, if you're telling lies like this;

"If you report info that is conflicting with someone else's, it can be flagged as argumentative. I know, it's really, really, really, dumb, and demotes the idea of sharing relevant info, which undermines the spirit of a forum. But I guess that is how it is, and there isn't anything we can do about it other than share negative info in pms. It sucks, because basically it means that this forum will slowly become less and less reliable for information, since the only info that will exist is the positive info.God forbid one guy say someone is a 6, and someone else say she is a 3, especially when the OP has all the signs of being a shill account, and is also likely the one that flagged you. Not talking about anything or anyone specific here, jsut any given post we have ever seen that follows this format.For that,"

It's probably going away. You can report all the conflicting info that you want that's EXACTLY what the forum is about and guys do it all the time. You were butthurt because what you think is "reporting conflicting information" is you attacking somebody for what they posted because you have a different opinion. Had you simply offered your information and allowed the members to look at his, look at yours and make up their own minds nothing would have happened.

So yeah, call me an asshole all you want because I am kind of an asshole but don't run the forum down because you were acting like a dick and I cut you off. 80% of the time you guys think somebody is a shill it turns out they aren't. That's why we have the report post button I'll check them out but what you want to do is call them a liar and then say it's conflicting info? No.

Hope that helps,

A2

MetroRider
11-12-17, 12:50
If you keep your dumb motherfucking ass in Detroit you got a deal.LOL, that was funny.

Question, how did you type that with StephenOh cock in your mouth and Jackknoff's tongue in your ass?

MetroRider
11-12-17, 12:53
http://toledo.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/nikkis-back-guys-upscale/34537679

Anyone have a dream with Nikki? I don't see any reviews on her. She's got a killer booty if she's legit.Stop the fucking "dream" BS.

MetroRider
11-12-17, 19:52
Same way you do with my dick in your mouth and StephenOh's up your ass.Nice comeback, homo.

PickyClient
11-12-17, 21:58
Nice comeback, homo.Fucking A.

MetroRider
11-13-17, 18:59
2 posts from you and both are "fucking A". Is that the extent of your vocabulary you stupid motherfucker. You are dumber than TartaRider. Go back to jacking off in your mommys panties you worthless piece of shit.You're dumb fucking douche-nozzle.

MetroRider
11-13-17, 19:00
You're dumb fucking douche-nozzle.And an asshole.

PickyClient
11-13-17, 19:08
2 posts from you and both are "fucking A". Is that the extent of your vocabulary you stupid motherfucker. You are dumber than TartaRider. Go back to jacking off in your mommys panties you worthless piece of shit.I am new to this board, but if you had done your research you would have seen that I have had a few other posts in Toledo under different threads. Shut the fuck up you dumbass mother fucker and learn how to read.

Now, as I read this forum it is abundantly clear who the fucking asshole is (Metrorider), but you must be a close second. Congrats on the silver medal douche for brains.

Once you learn to review a member's posting history, mine is not hard to research, get your facts straight. In the meantime keep your fingers in your pussy and keep pleasuring yourself.

Kindest regards.

Mystery Mantis
11-16-17, 19:29
Totally objective question for A2.

I know we can't really address you in the regular forums, but is it ok in the arena? I don't really have anything now, jsut want to know for future possibilities. If not, then it's cool.

It depends, if you're telling lies like this;

"If you report info that is conflicting with someone else's, it can be flagged as argumentative. I know, it's really, really, really, dumb, and demotes the idea of sharing relevant info, which undermines the spirit of a forum. But I guess that is how it is, and there isn't anything we can do about it other than share negative info in pms. It sucks, because basically it means that this forum will slowly become less and less reliable for information, since the only info that will exist is the positive info.God forbid one guy say someone is a 6, and someone else say she is a 3, especially when the OP has all the signs of being a shill account, and is also likely the one that flagged you. Not talking about anything or anyone specific here, jsut any given post we have ever seen that follows this format.For that,"

It's probably going away. You can report all the conflicting info that you want that's EXACTLY what the forum is about and guys do it all the time. You were butthurt because what you think is "reporting conflicting information" is you attacking somebody for what they posted because you have a different opinion. Had you simply offered your information and allowed the members to look at his, look at yours and make up their own minds nothing would have happened.

So yeah, call me an asshole all you want because I am kind of an asshole but don't run the forum down because you were acting like a dick and I cut you off. 80% of the time you guys think somebody is a shill it turns out they aren't. That's why we have the report post button I'll check them out but what you want to do is call them a liar and then say it's conflicting info? No.

Hope that helps,

A2Good to know, thank you. Just curious, was this one of the 80%? If you can recall that is, no need to go out of your way to answer.

Honestly I don't remember who you were calling a liar so I can't give you an answer on that.

Sorry,

A2

PickyClient
11-18-17, 01:22
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EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was edited to remove homosexual references in the text. Please do not post homosexual references in the Forum. Thanks!

Bad Bird
07-21-18, 09:44
East side & Lagrange have been pretty hot lately which explains why SW action has been less lately in those areas. I've been told if cops see you pick up a girl or see one in the car with you that they follow you.And yet only one arrest for such an offense in the past 3 days. I prefer to judge the temperature by the books vs I heard from a friend who heard from a coworker who heard from a hooker. The actual temperature has some to so with it, it has been somewhat hot. Go out when things are REALLY cooler.

LimaBean
07-21-18, 09:55
And yet only one arrest for such an offense in the past 3 days. I prefer to judge the temperature by the books vs I heard from a friend who heard from a coworker who heard from a hooker. The actual temperature has some to so with it, it has been somewhat hot. Go out when things are REALLY cooler.I prefer mongers be respectful when someone tries to share helpful info, yet here we are.

Admin2
07-21-18, 12:02
I prefer mongers be respectful when someone tries to share helpful info, yet here we are.If you ever want to get off of moderation I suggest you learn how to use the "Report Post" button.


And yet only one arrest for such an offense in the past 3 days. I prefer to judge the temperature by the books vs I heard from a friend who heard from a coworker who heard from a hooker. The actual temperature has some to so with it, it has been somewhat hot. Go out when things are REALLY cooler.And if you want to remain unmoderated I suggest you either learn how to use the fight thread or learn to not be a dick to people who are just trying to help out and participate.

There was ZERO reason to bring the snark over the post you were quoting.

A2

LimaBean
07-21-18, 17:10
If you ever want to get off of moderation I suggest you learn how to use the "Report Post" button.

And if you want to remain unmoderated I suggest you either learn how to use the fight thread or learn to not be a dick to people who are just trying to help out and participate.

There was ZERO reason to bring the snark over the post you were quoting.

A2I have a difficult time using that button. It probably comes from my upbringing where there were consequences for being a tattletale.

I've been moderated for over a year, so I figured it must be a lifetime banishment. I think Lurker 2009 is still moderated, and his offense (s) were from several years ago, I think.

[blue]Yours is because you just wont stop picking fights. No disrespect meant to the people who raised you but you're not a child and you're not "telling" on somebody out of spite. You're an adult and adults respect the places where they are guests, or they should anyway. Read the TOS you agreed to when you joined.

Lurker knows why he's still moderated.

A2[/blue}

WorthlessNut
07-22-18, 12:01
Insemino is offline.

Senior Member.

Posts: 53.

Or worse.

Quote Originally Posted by FactSeeker t Post]oledo. skipthegames.com/ femal. Why /485497941598.

Tried to set up a date with this one gave her an address but not my real address and some dude in a truck pulled up and went and knocked on the door of the fake address I gave her. I figured she or whoever on this ad was a cop because after I gave my address she said I'm pulling up now without even agreeing on a donation rate threw up the red flags just be careful maybe I'm being paranoid but I don't think so.

If you actually did this, which I would tend not to believe, you are a fuck. What if someone stormed into said house and beat or killed someone? Do you know who's house you sent them to? So much more I want to say, but I am not.

LimaBean
07-23-18, 20:01
I have a difficult time using that button. It probably comes from my upbringing where there were consequences for being a tattletale.

I've been moderated for over a year, so I figured it must be a lifetime banishment. I think Lurker 2009 is still moderated, and his offense (s) were from several years ago, I think.

Yours is because you just wont stop picking fights. No disrespect meant to the people who raised you but you're not a child and you're not "telling" on somebody out of spite. You're an adult and adults respect the places where they are guests, or they should anyway. Read the TOS you agreed to when you joined.

Lurker knows why he's still moderated.

A2I've never thought of this forum as if I'm a guest. I'll work to do so.

I don't know how else to describe them. They are people that stop by a place where they are welcomed to interact and are not charged to do so. I can't really call them customers so I think of them as guests.

Fully 97.6% of them are welcomed guests. You may be a bit of trouble from time to time but you are also a welcomed guest.

A2

LimaBean
07-25-18, 21:05
I've never thought of this forum as if I'm a guest. I'll work to do so.

I don't know how else to describe them. They are people that stop by a place where they are welcomed to interact and are not charged to do so. I can't really call them customers so I think of them as guests.

Fully 97.6% of them are welcomed guests. You may be a bit of trouble from time to time but you are also a welcomed guest.

A2I appreciate that.

NorinRad
08-26-18, 09:30
None of my business of course, but I never understood how ANYONE can do that in todays world. Have seen reviews where guys say "She wouldn't do BBFS so I won't repeat" and I just shake my head? Would I prefer it sure, but also enjoy not have to take the "Drug Cocktail" every day to survive. Have fun. Be Safe.


I see the "big studder" is bragging about doing Brylee without a cover. You are such a macho man. I hope when you catch something that can't get cured with a shot you share those details with us. I hope to read about you when you get charged with infecting a girl with aids. Hopefully you will go to prison and you can report to us how you like being on the receiving end of BBFS.

Dick Fitswell
08-26-18, 10:43
None of my business of course, but I never understood how ANYONE can do that in todays world. Have seen reviews where guys say "She wouldn't do BBFS so I won't repeat" and I just shake my head? Would I prefer it sure, but also enjoy not have to take the "Drug Cocktail" every day to survive. Have fun. Be Safe.I couldn't agree more!

Stay safe.

NorinRad
08-26-18, 17:03
Have heard about those shows. GROSS, YUK. Don't think I'd go if I were in Tijuana. LOL.


Amen. And the thing he doesn't seem to understand is most of the providers would screw a donkey if they had to so they could get their fix and I'm being serious. I was in Mexico in the late 70's and saw a show. Kinda felt sorry for the donkey.

FurBurger
08-26-18, 18:17
It all depends how well you know, how long you have known, and how many times you have been with a provider. Also if you believe what she tells you. I have been with a provider I have know for 2-3 years or longer. I know and have met her friends and family. They have met mine. Of course they did not know what she did for a living. I have partied with her. It is possible to build a trusting business / semi personal relationship with a provider under idea conditions. It is very rare but occasionally happens. They will come to your house and fuck you without wanting money. If you are very lucky it might happen for you once. If you find yourself in a relationship like that enjoy it. It will not last forever. For me that provider was Bailey.

Robert17
08-26-18, 20:56
Amen. And the thing he doesn't seem to understand is most of the providers would screw a donkey if they had to so they could get their fix and I'm being serious. I was in Mexico in the late 70's and saw a show. Kinda felt sorry for the donkey.I have seen many posting by guys who say they would never do BBFS and yet post reviews talking about having a great DATY experience with a girl known to offer BBFS. I've never understood that way of thinking. I will not say I never have licked the kitty but I don't do it anymore because a girl I had visited many time and I was sure only worked safe offered me uncovered for extra one night because she was short on her rent. Her line was I would never do this with anyone else But. That night was the last time I went to the why.

Rugby1
08-26-18, 21:30
Even if you're with someone not "in" the business. If you are with someone who you know is promiscuous you cover up. You don't lick it! Use you common sense. There are things out there that you will have for life.

NorinRad
08-26-18, 21:42
That is a really good point. I will admit that DATY is one of my favorite activities. Have never partaken if I had any doubts, but I have meant to ask my personal physician about their opinion of the risks??


I have seen many posting by guys who say they would never do BBFS and yet post reviews talking about having a great DATY experience with a girl known to offer BBFS. I've never understood that way of thinking. I will not say I never have licked the kitty but I don't do it anymore because a girl I had visited many time and I was sure only worked safe offered me uncovered for extra one night because she was short on her rent. Her line was I would never do this with anyone else But. That night was the last time I went to the why.

Timberwolf
08-27-18, 09:46
Like it or not. ALL these ladies are bare backing someone.

Bad Bird
09-16-18, 16:58
I do not post in this section, I think it is useless and pointless to even be on this site. But I feel if I put this in the Escort section the all powerful admin would be unhappy so maybe it is useful after all.

So this is on STG. Someone either spreading truth or lies for whatever reason. Maybe they had a bad experience, maybe they refused service or maybe some or all of it is true. I can confirm that at least one warrant is out for Jade, and that they have (or had) drug abuse issues. The others, just rumor as there is no proof anywhere at this time.

http://toledo.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/the-duo-stay-away/018639578589

While sharing information is very important to do, if in fact it is true, I feel this is over the line. Posting relatives names? This is over the line. If someone here posted this I would like to know your line of thinking here. Maybe it was a weak moment trying to get your point across or maybe I am off base??

Just in case the post on STG disappears here it is (I edited out the family member names and provider names) even though I know a few here knows the info.

"The duo, Jade- (name edited) and Lacy- (name edited) are back in Toledo after being gone for a couple of months. Lacey's mom (name edited) lives here. While they were here they were arrested multiple times for drugs including heroin and cocaine. Lacy is hiv positive after years of IV drug use and Jade has hep C. Jade has warrants for outstanding drug charges. If you see them you are taking serious risks. ".

NorinRad
09-16-18, 20:21
I don't understand these personal "attacks" either?

First, there is no way to know if, as you state, someone is stating facts, or it is just some personal vendetta? Would I like to know if a provider has some disease, SURE, but how the hell would some member know this information?

Second, Really thought the purpose of the forum was to simply offer a REVIEW of a provider, good or bad. Not smear them because of some perceived slight? I was actually contacted by "The Duo" this weekend to see if I wanted to visit. I told them that my first, and last, visit was horrible, and I would not repeat. Didn't feel the need to insult or post lies about them.

I personally know of some ASSHOLE who is posting fake "Warning Posts" on STG about 2 different girls from Lima. Both of whom have captured and posted photos of his texts to them. He did this simply because they wouldn't agree to an insulting low-ball visit fee? WTF is wrong with some people??


I do not post in this section, I think it is useless and pointless to even be on this site. But I feel if I put this in the Escort section the all powerful admin would be unhappy so maybe it is useful after all.

So this is on STG. Someone either spreading truth or lies for whatever reason. Maybe they had a bad experience, maybe they refused service or maybe some or all of it is true. I can confirm that at least one warrant is out for Jade, and that they have (or had) drug abuse issues. The others, just rumor as there is no proof anywhere at this time.

http://toledo.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/the-duo-stay-away/018639578589

While sharing information is very important to do, if in fact it is true, I feel this is over the line. Posting relatives names? This is over the line. If someone here posted this I would like to know your line of thinking here. Maybe it was a weak moment trying to get your point across or maybe I am off base??

Just in case the post on STG disappears here it is (I edited out the family member names and provider names) even though I know a few here knows the info.

"The duo, Jade- (name edited) and Lacy- (name edited) are back in Toledo after being gone for a couple of months. Lacey's mom (name edited) lives here. While they were here they were arrested multiple times for drugs including heroin and cocaine. Lacy is hiv positive after years of IV drug use and Jade has hep C. Jade has warrants for outstanding drug charges. If you see them you are taking serious risks. ".

PassionLaw
09-16-18, 22:45
The below was posted by the duo yesterday and gives, I think, a very believable defense of their side of this scuffle. It's coherent, well-written and puts most of what you will see on STG to shame in terms of actually stating something sensible. I, for one, believe them and it sounds like they are being unfairly smeared by a real POS jerk.

Http://toledo.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/its-time-to-respond/095566392499OS


I do not post in this section, I think it is useless and pointless to even be on this site. But I feel if I put this in the Escort section the all powerful admin would be unhappy so maybe it is useful after all.

So this is on STG. Someone either spreading truth or lies for whatever reason. Maybe they had a bad experience, maybe they refused service or maybe some or all of it is true. I can confirm that at least one warrant is out for Jade, and that they have (or had) drug abuse issues. The others, just rumor as there is no proof anywhere at this time.

http://toledo.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/the-duo-stay-away/018639578589

While sharing information is very important to do, if in fact it is true, I feel this is over the line. Posting relatives names? This is over the line..

Admin2
09-17-18, 09:20
I do not post in this section, I think it is useless and pointless to even be on this site. But I feel if I put this in the Escort section the all powerful admin would be unhappy so maybe it is useful after all.You can white knight all you want on the stupid shit thread for all I care but it has no place on a review thread.

I would also point out that REPOSTING the information you object to is doing real damage to the ladies you are trying to champion. If you wanted to help them you would just post a review, reposting a link to the info you think is false will just drive more guys to see it and that will cost them business because that's how it works with negative info, no matter what you say about 40% of the guys who see it will only remember the negative stuff.

So, well done you

A2

WorthlessNut
09-17-18, 11:57
The below was posted by the duo yesterday and gives, I think, a very believable defense of their side of this scuffle. It's coherent, well-written and puts most of what you will see on STG to shame in terms of actually stating something sensible. I, for one, believe them and it sounds like they are being unfairly smeared by a real POS jerk.

Http://toledo.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/its-time-to-respond/095566392499OSLink showed nothing, I think ad pulled down I got on stg and found nothing.

Bad Bird
09-17-18, 22:03
You can white knight all you want on the stupid shit thread for all I care but it has no place on a review thread.

I would also point out that REPOSTING the information you object to is doing real damage to the ladies you are trying to champion. If you wanted to help them you would just post a review, reposting a link to the info you think is false will just drive more guys to see it and that will cost them business because that's how it works with negative info, no matter what you say about 40% of the guys who see it will only remember the negative stuff.

So, well done you

A2My issue was primarily with the family members names and their names. If others read and only remember the negative stuff after pointing out that most of it has no proof, well, they can not really be helped. Almost every provider has a negative review (you well know YMMV), so by your account 40% of the members will see no one unless they are not reviewed at all.

PassionLaw
09-17-18, 22:14
Link showed nothing, I think ad pulled down I got on stg and found nothing.Hmmm. Yes, it doesn't seem to be working but their post is still there. Go to Toledo STG and enter "respond" as your search term. You'll need to scroll through a few results to get back to Saturday. I just confirmed by doing this myself. Apologies for the confusion, but it's worth doing so to read their response if you have dreamed of them in the past or are thinking about doing so in the future.

Best,

PL.

WorthlessNut
09-17-18, 22:55
Hmmm. Yes, it doesn't seem to be working but their post is still there. Go to Toledo STG and enter "respond" as your search term. You'll need to scroll through a few results to get back to Saturday. I just confirmed by doing this myself. Apologies for the confusion, but it's worth doing so to read their response if you have dreamed of them in the past or are thinking about doing so in the future.

Best,

PL.OK, thanks.

Pat122
09-17-18, 23:48
My issue was primarily with the family members names and their names. If others read and only remember the negative stuff after pointing out that most of it has no proof, well, they can not really be helped. Almost every provider has a negative review (you well know YMMV), so by your account 40% of the members will see no one unless they are not reviewed at all.A2 is right, I am not going to see someone who is rumored to have some type of disease. Just my opinion.

I also understand bad bird, family last name should not be listed.

LetsGetStarted
09-22-18, 21:34
Sadly you are so correct. Half the girls you wouldn't consider seeing, the other half. Well, some guys say are "good" others say are "bad" its a complete crap shoot. I'm lucky with a nice regular girl to see, but the fun used to be meeting new people. If I were a wealthy man, (wasn't that a song) I wouldn't mind so much, but sick and tired of forking over benny franklins for uninspired visits from girls who do not look like their photos??I think people pay way to much to see these girls, I would never pay that much, but lots out there are and they think they are worth it, when they are not worth that much at all. If everyone would stop giving them what they wanted, you would see prices drop and probably get better service.

NorinRad
09-23-18, 11:55
Well not sure how you make that correlation? So you figure if guys all band together to "low-ball" the providers, they will be so happy to have the visitors they will have a "better" attitude and perform better? I almost never "negotiate" with a girl. If it's too much, I move on. Why would I want to have her in a bad mood to start a visit by offering her less than what she is asking for? Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm a pussy, maybe she will respect me so much for low-balling her she will open up and it will be great?? Sadly I don't think so.


I think people pay way to much to see these girls, I would never pay that much, but lots out there are and they think they are worth it, when they are not worth that much at all. If everyone would stop giving them what they wanted, you would see prices drop and probably get better service.

Screammy
09-23-18, 12:18
Well not sure how you make that correlation? So you figure if guys all band together to "low-ball" the providers, they will be so happy to have the visitors they will have a "better" attitude and perform better? I almost never "negotiate" with a girl. If it's too much, I move on. Why would I want to have her in a bad mood to start a visit by offering her less than what she is asking for? Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm a pussy, maybe she will respect me so much for low-balling her she will open up and it will be great?? Sadly I don't think so.I agree with Letsgetstarted, People overpay to see many providers who aren't worth half the rate they want. White knighting is very real and prevalent in this hobby. Guys think if they "spoil" the providers with gifts, attention, pay the high rate, the provider with suddenly fall in love with them and they'll date. So many things wrong with that, too much to add to this post. I always negotiate with a provider on STG. I never lowball them but I defiantly get a lower rate every single time. It's part of doing business. You certainly don't have to negotiate, it's your money but why pay more for the same kind of service as someone who paid less?

Screammy
09-23-18, 12:22
I am just about done, to many skanks and rip off risks. No real good girls anymore.Yes, many skanks and scammers out there but they are many very good providers left but you'll have to be willing to pay a higher rate. Attractive providers who have nice bodies and are drug free don't come cheap.

Timberwolf
09-23-18, 12:30
I think people pay way to much to see these girls, I would never pay that much, but lots out there are and they think they are worth it, when they are not worth that much at all. If everyone would stop giving them what they wanted, you would see prices drop and probably get better service.She has the pussy, so she sets the price. If it is too high for me OR I don't like what I see when she answers the door. I bail. As with a lady's looks, everyone's perception of value is different. A $30 blow job is no bargain.

SpinnerLover69
09-23-18, 13:09
I think people pay way to much to see these girls, I would never pay that much, but lots out there are and they think they are worth it, when they are not worth that much at all. If everyone would stop giving them what they wanted, you would see prices drop and probably get better service.I agree with this. I have not gotten better service from a girl who asks 100 over a girl that asks 60. Thats one of the reasons I won't pay over 80 again. I have seen kennedy lane about 5 times for 60. She's hot and performs well. I know her personality is not good but she's hot, that is all that matters in this hobby. These girls will never be girlfriends so none of us should be looking for a sweetheart. Also, I know I preach about this, but giving more of your hard earned money to these girls is not going to put you in special favor in their eyes. All they will think of you is a guy they can get more money out of than another. An atm with a man attached. There is absolutely nothing these girls can do in the real world to make $20 an hour. So 60 for 20 minutes is more than enough for them. And they need us more than we need them. If they don't get their money for their candy they will be dope sick and that's very debilitating.

NorinRad
09-23-18, 16:23
Well, don't think I personally fall into the "white knight" category. Certainly not looking for a girlfriend, and I'm not bringing flowers and chocolates to a STG gal? My "fear" in trying to negotiate the price down, especially with someone I've never seen before, is that I will turn them sour on me, before even seeing them, and this will effect the quality of the service provided? Would love to pay a little less without sacrificing the quality of the visit? Open to suggestions?


I agree with Letsgetstarted, People overpay to see many providers who aren't worth half the rate they want. White knighting is very real and prevalent in this hobby. Guys think if they "spoil" the providers with gifts, attention, pay the high rate, the provider with suddenly fall in love with them and they'll date. So many things wrong with that, too much to add to this post. I always negotiate with a provider on STG. I never lowball them but I defiantly get a lower rate every single time. It's part of doing business. You certainly don't have to negotiate, it's your money but why pay more for the same kind of service as someone who paid less?

OlderHobbyGun
09-23-18, 18:10
Well, don't think I personally fall into the "white knight" category. Certainly not looking for a girlfriend, and I'm not bringing flowers and chocolates to a STG gal? My "fear" in trying to negotiate the price down, especially with someone I've never seen before, is that I will turn them sour on me, before even seeing them, and this will effect the quality of the service provided? Would love to pay a little less without sacrificing the quality of the visit? Open to suggestions?I negotiate easy on the first then more so from there. Generally I am a regular if and when I find something good. No point in offering anything else or you will be taken advantage of. I always seem to land somewhere between 60-80 for hh.

LetsGetStarted
09-23-18, 18:25
Well not sure how you make that correlation? So you figure if guys all band together to "low-ball" the providers, they will be so happy to have the visitors they will have a "better" attitude and perform better? I almost never "negotiate" with a girl. If it's too much, I move on. Why would I want to have her in a bad mood to start a visit by offering her less than what she is asking for? Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm a pussy, maybe she will respect me so much for low-balling her she will open up and it will be great?? Sadly I don't think so.I never said negotiate or low ball the provider, if the price is too high just say thanks and move on. I believe they get what they want and they play the games because of it, ghosting, half hour between text messages, false pictures, etc. I learned to play the game better than they do, because lets face it, the majority of these providers really do need us more than we need them.

LetsGetStarted
09-23-18, 18:27
I agree with Letsgetstarted, People overpay to see many providers who aren't worth half the rate they want. White knighting is very real and prevalent in this hobby. Guys think if they "spoil" the providers with gifts, attention, pay the high rate, the provider with suddenly fall in love with them and they'll date. So many things wrong with that, too much to add to this post. I always negotiate with a provider on STG. I never lowball them but I defiantly get a lower rate every single time. It's part of doing business. You certainly don't have to negotiate, it's your money but why pay more for the same kind of service as someone who paid less?Well said screammy.

LetsGetStarted
09-23-18, 18:40
I agree with this. I have not gotten better service from a girl who asks 100 over a girl that asks 60. Thats one of the reasons I won't pay over 80 again. I have seen kennedy lane about 5 times for 60. She's hot and performs well. I know her personality is not good but she's hot, that is all that matters in this hobby. These girls will never be girlfriends so none of us should be looking for a sweetheart. Also, I know I preach about this, but giving more of your hard earned money to these girls is not going to put you in special favor in their eyes. All they will think of you is a guy they can get more money out of than another. An atm with a man attached. There is absolutely nothing these girls can do in the real world to make $20 an hour. So 60 for 20 minutes is more than enough for them. And they need us more than we need them. If they don't get their money for their candy they will be dope sick and that's very debilitating.Well said.

BJlvr419
09-23-18, 23:59
Well, don't think I personally fall into the "white knight" category. Certainly not looking for a girlfriend, and I'm not bringing flowers and chocolates to a STG gal? My "fear" in trying to negotiate the price down, especially with someone I've never seen before, is that I will turn them sour on me, before even seeing them, and this will effect the quality of the service provided? Would love to pay a little less without sacrificing the quality of the visit? Open to suggestions?I'm with you 100%. I'm not trying to land a girlfriend or anything stupid like that, but I do want great service and I don't think I'm usually going to get that by dickering with them. There are only a few that I've paid more than 100 for hh, and those are the absolute best performers I've seen and all had great reviews. Even then, I prefer to do ss on the first visit to get a feel for her attitude and performance before I lay out a lot more for hh or hr. If a girl is asking a lot and doesn't have reviews, I just say thank you and move on.

MrHungWell
09-24-18, 00:28
I never said negotiate or low ball the provider, if the price is too high just say thanks and move on. I believe they get what they want and they play the games because of it, ghosting, half hour between text messages, false pictures, etc. I learned to play the game better than they do, because lets face it, the majority of these providers really do need us more than we need them.Not even close. Just because a small number of us on this board don't like their prices doesn't mean in any way they are going to change their ways. We are a only a small percentage of the people they see: this board is everything thing to us, absolutely nothing to them. Just because a few guys on here think they are charging too much do you really think they are going to care in the least bit? They are supporting a drug habit gentleman, they couldn't care less what the fuck we think. This whole idea of working together to try and control their rates is comical at best. We're not talking about a legitimate product or service that we can boycott for an actual result, we're talking about drug addicted ladies who care about nothing else but getting their $ from us. If you don't like what they charge then simple move on to the next girl, the idea of trying to somehow regulate their rates is totally unrealistic.

ToledoOhoh
09-24-18, 01:24
So here is what happened. I had a date Thursday. With a girl I have seen at least a half dozen times before. Everything was good. Said she wanted to get with me before she went out to Colorado for a few months. So we fuck. I M wearing a rain coat like always. Pop goes the weseal. I pull out and go and take off the rubber and I notice it is covered in blood. PERIOD BLOOD. Now if this was someone I was in a mutually exclusive relationship with. No issues. But the nature of what we are doing I am like. Hold fucking shit. Are you serious. Her response is. Oh well I guess I need some tampons.I'm just going to point out that sometimes, yes, I know most guys think this is always a foretold event. But SOMETIMES, sex will start a woman's period early.

I'm not sticking up for the provider in this situation in ANY way. But I have had this happen with a woman that very clearly noted that she was surprised (she wasn't a provider, this was an exclusive relationship).

Don't shame her, don't freak the fuck out man. We're all humans at the end of the day and sometimes shit just happens. I can understand being like "Hey umm, there's a problem.

Here".

But your assumption is she knew she had started and tried to cover it up. When in reality, it probably was a total accident and not something she was planning on.

PhatDaty
09-24-18, 06:20
Let an old monger share some wisdom.

I occasionally bring the gals I see chocolates or a small token gift that is more about noticing them and remembering something they have mentioned.

It has nothing to do with looking for a girlfriend or getting a cheaper price. It is about treating them as a human being. Everyone likes being treated to a small kindness. If you don't think a small gesture like that puts someone in a better mood, and therefore results in a better session, you are probably missing out on a happy life in general, not just the hobby. Have you never heard the expression: " whistle while you work?

You young turk mongers entertain me with all your bravado when it comes to the hobby.

There is nothing wrong with showing a bit of gratitude to anyone in the service industry, but then, I also occasionally treat my mechanic and HVAC guy, etc. To lunch with a gift card to their favorite spot.

I have been doing it for decades, and yes I do believe this directly results in a bit more attention to detail when they flush my lines and clean my pipes.


I agree with Letsgetstarted, People overpay to see many providers who aren't worth half the rate they want. White knighting is very real and prevalent in this hobby. Guys think if they "spoil" the providers with gifts, attention, pay the high rate, the provider with suddenly fall in love with them and they'll date. So many things wrong with that, too much to add to this post. I always negotiate with a provider on STG. I never lowball them but I defiantly get a lower rate every single time. It's part of doing business. You certainly don't have to negotiate, it's your money but why pay more for the same kind of service as someone who paid less?

Firemanoh
09-24-18, 08:10
Well said!


let an old monger share some wisdom.

I occasionally bring the gals i see chocolates or a small token gift that is more about noticing them and remembering something they have mentioned.

It has nothing to do with looking for a girlfriend or getting a cheaper price. It is about treating them as a human being. Everyone likes being treated to a small kindness. If you don't think a small gesture like that puts someone in a better mood, and therefore results in a better session, you are probably missing out on a happy life in general, not just the hobby. Have you never heard the expression: " whistle while you work?

You young turk mongers entertain me with all your bravado when it comes to the hobby.

There is nothing wrong with showing a bit of gratitude to anyone in the service industry, but then, i also occasionally treat my mechanic and hvac guy, etc. To lunch with a gift card to their favorite spot.

I have been doing it for decades, and yes i do believe this directly results in a bit more attention to detail when they flush my lines and clean my pipes.

SpinnerLover69
09-24-18, 08:43
Let an old monger share some wisdom.

I occasionally bring the gals I see chocolates or a small token gift that is more about noticing them and remembering something they have mentioned.

It has nothing to do with looking for a girlfriend or getting a cheaper price. It is about treating them as a human being. Everyone likes being treated to a small kindness. If you don't think a small gesture like that puts someone in a better mood, and therefore results in a better session, you are probably missing out on a happy life in general, not just the hobby. Have you never heard the expression: " whistle while you work?

You young turk mongers entertain me with all your bravado when it comes to the hobby.

There is nothing wrong with showing a bit of gratitude to anyone in the service industry, but then, I also occasionally treat my mechanic and HVAC guy, etc. To lunch with a gift card to their favorite spot.

I have been doing it for decades, and yes I do believe this directly results in a bit more attention to detail when they flush my lines and clean my pipes.Disagree with bringing anything extra or tipping these girls. Does anyone think these girls care anything about any of us? They don't. Treating them like a human being doesn't have to include gifts. It can be a pleasant conversation. Gift giving is to be given to people who mean something in our lives. These girls don't. If you told them your birthday would you get a card from them? They don't care, they want money and nothing more and that is how its supposed to be. To prove my point, when these girls get clean and sober, they don't contact and hang out with any of their past clients. Guarantee you that when clean and their thinking is clear, they will not have positive feelings about any guy that paid to see her. I've never heard of a single girl being friends with a former client and hang out with them as friends do. This is a superficial business, nothing more.

PhatDaty
09-24-18, 10:32
Gift giving is to be given to people who mean something in our lives.Like I said, you are selling yourself short in life in general, not just the hobby, if you lack kindness.

Bzerkley
09-24-18, 11:00
Disagree with bringing anything extra or tipping these girls. Does anyone think these girls care anything about any of us? They don't. Treating them like a human being doesn't have to include gifts. It can be a pleasant conversation. Gift giving is to be given to people who mean something in our lives. These girls don't. If you told them your birthday would you get a card from them? They don't care, they want money and nothing more and that is how its supposed to be. To prove my point, when these girls get clean and sober, they don't contact and hang out with any of their past clients. Guarantee you that when clean and their thinking is clear, they will not have positive feelings about any guy that paid to see her. I've never heard of a single girl being friends with a former client and hang out with them as friends do. This is a superficial business, nothing more.I wholeheartedly disagree. I usually bring and or leave them some chocolate, bottle of wine, dog treats if they have dogs, bourbon. They always remember me and I care to treat them like a person, not a piece of meat. Some of them have become regulars and I always get treated fairly. What's wrong with that?

Screammy
09-24-18, 12:15
Like I said, you are selling yourself short in life in general, not just the hobby, if you lack kindness.That's a harsh thing to say don't you think? A person lacks kindness because they don't give a gift to a provider? I don't recall a time when I've given a gift to a provider, mechanic, lawn care crew. Etc. I do show people gratitude and respect. Maybe you're lacking personality if you feel the need to give a gift to a provider just so they can remember you. They'll be happy if you give them what they really want, cash.

OldButGood
09-24-18, 12:47
I wholeheartedly disagree. I usually bring and or leave them some chocolate, bottle of wine, dog treats if they have dogs, bourbon. They always remember me and I care to treat them like a person, not a piece of meat. Some of them have become regulars and I always get treated fairly. What's wrong with that?I've definitely showed up to a couple of providers where I wish I had brought some dog treats. LOL.

OlderHobbyGun
09-24-18, 13:57
Let an old monger share some wisdom.

I occasionally bring the gals I see chocolates or a small token gift that is more about noticing them and remembering something they have mentioned.

It has nothing to do with looking for a girlfriend or getting a cheaper price. It is about treating them as a human being. Everyone likes being treated to a small kindness. If you don't think a small gesture like that puts someone in a better mood, and therefore results in a better session, you are probably missing out on a happy life in general, not just the hobby. Have you never heard the expression: " whistle while you work?

You young turk mongers entertain me with all your bravado when it comes to the hobby.

There is nothing wrong with showing a bit of gratitude to anyone in the service industry, but then, I also occasionally treat my mechanic and HVAC guy, etc. To lunch with a gift card to their favorite spot.

I have been doing it for decades, and yes I do believe this directly results in a bit more attention to detail when they flush my lines and clean my pipes.I agree small random gifts are OK. I queered a regular years ago by doing too much. I was stopping in the ghetto to buys cigs and fast food. Now with a regular just something small now and then to be nice.

PhatDaty
09-24-18, 14:30
That's a harsh thing to say don't you think? A person lacks kindness because they don't give a gift to a provider?No, I said he lacks kindness because of this:

"Gift giving is to be given to people who mean something in our lives."

Anyway, do as you will. We all like different things and approach the hobby differently. Some of us have been doing it back since the days portrayed on Madmen, when a box of chocolates, flowers and some nylons were just something you did from time to time for whatever cupcake you kept on the side.

NorinRad
09-24-18, 18:28
VERY WELL SAID, could not agree more. I too try to establish relationships with people I deal with regularly. You are so right. Not only will a small gesture make someone else's day possibly, but might end up in better "service" for me in the long run. I too "tip" service people I deal with on a regular basis also. I can't treat people like crap, especially the ladies who are "kind enough" to put up with my fat ass for a few minutes. I see a regular gal in Lima, bring her a Pepsi or smokes occassionally, because I know she appreciates it, and I have a great time with her. Supposed to be a "Hobby" If I can't have fun, and treat people like I would like to be treated, what's the point??


Let an old monger share some wisdom.

I occasionally bring the gals I see chocolates or a small token gift that is more about noticing them and remembering something they have mentioned.

It has nothing to do with looking for a girlfriend or getting a cheaper price. It is about treating them as a human being. Everyone likes being treated to a small kindness. If you don't think a small gesture like that puts someone in a better mood, and therefore results in a better session, you are probably missing out on a happy life in general, not just the hobby. Have you never heard the expression: " whistle while you work?

You young turk mongers entertain me with all your bravado when it comes to the hobby.

There is nothing wrong with showing a bit of gratitude to anyone in the service industry, but then, I also occasionally treat my mechanic and HVAC guy, etc. To lunch with a gift card to their favorite spot.

I have been doing it for decades, and yes I do believe this directly results in a bit more attention to detail when they flush my lines and clean my pipes.

SpinnerLover69
09-24-18, 20:28
Like I said, you are selling yourself short in life in general, not just the hobby, if you lack kindness.No problem with the debate on this, as I feel debate is all good. I will say that I can almost guarantee that the girls find it creepy if a guy brings gifts to them in this line of "work". Whether they will admit it to you if you asked them, but giving them gifts gives the vibe that the guy wants to be romantically involved so to speak. There is simply no reason for it. All any one of us are is a money source to these girls. None of these girls want to date or have anything to do with any guy they see on here. Want to test this? Tell the girl that you want to take them to dinner and a movie or ballgame for say 6 hours, pay for the date but not give them money for their "time". You will hear every excuse as to why they can't go, I guarantee it. And, its not about not being kind. I am kind and show respect by being on time, being clean, not aggressive, don't ask more than agreed upon or ask them to do something they are not comfortable with. As I expect the same from them. I also have small talk before and after while undressing and dressing. Do you guys who want to give them gifts, do you fall for the texts saying "hi sweetie" or the stripper that pretends to find what you do for a living so interesting and important? Also if you were to run into one of these girls at a starbucks and you were both alone so as take any potential embarrassment out of the equation, any one of these girls would bolt out of their quickly or pretend to be on the phone if you approached them. These girls post adds to provide sexual services for money so they can get their candy of choice. Thats not being harsh or criticizing its just stating facts. Its not treating them like a piece of meat. If they wanted a guy to treat them like a real date they would go on eharmony and actually choose who to see instead of meeting guys sight unseen. If they wanted friendship while meeting guys they would join an outdoor club or anyone of 100 different activities for this reason. Many of you guys need to watch dr. Drew and other therapists about manipulative behavior of addicts. And yes the girls on stg / backpage / listcrawler are all addicts. Stop being delusional as to what these girls are and the reason they want to see you.

PhatDaty
09-24-18, 22:24
VERY WELL SAID, could not agree more. I too try to establish relationships with people I deal with regularly. You are so right. Not only will a small gesture make someone else's day possibly, but might end up in better "service" for me in the long run. I too "tip" service people I deal with on a regular basis also. I can't treat people like crap, especially the ladies who are "kind enough" to put up with my fat ass for a few minutes. I see a regular gal in Lima, bring her a Pepsi or smokes occassionally, because I know she appreciates it, and I have a great time with her. Supposed to be a "Hobby" If I can't have fun, and treat people like I would like to be treated, what's the point??Give that man a cigar.

TheBigDipper1
09-25-18, 03:50
No problem with the debate on this, as I feel debate is all good. I will say that I can almost guarantee that the girls find it creepy if a guy brings gifts to them in this line of "work". Whether they will admit it to you if you asked them, but giving them gifts gives the vibe that the guy wants to be romantically involved so to speak. There is simply no reason for it. All any one of us are is a money source to these girls. None of these girls want to date or have anything to do with any guy they see on here. Want to test this? Tell the girl that you want to take them to dinner and a movie or ballgame for say 6 hours, pay for the date but not give them money for their "time". You will hear every excuse as to why they can't go, I guarantee it. And, its not about not being kind. I am kind and show respect by being on time, being clean, not aggressive, don't ask more than agreed upon or ask them to do something they are not comfortable with. As I expect the same from them. I also have small talk before and after while undressing and dressing. Do you guys who want to give them gifts, do you fall for the texts saying "hi sweetie" or the stripper that pretends to find what you do for a living so interesting and important? Also if you were to run into one of these girls at a starbucks and you were both alone so as take any potential embarrassment out of the equation, any one of these girls would bolt out of their quickly or pretend to be on the phone if you approached them. These girls post adds to provide sexual services for money so they can get their candy of choice. Thats not being harsh or criticizing its just stating facts. Its not treating them like a piece of meat. If they wanted a guy to treat them like a real date they would go on eharmony and actually choose who to see instead of meeting guys sight unseen. If they wanted friendship while meeting guys they would join an outdoor club or anyone of 100 different activities for this reason. Many of you guys need to watch dr. Drew and other therapists about manipulative behavior of addicts. And yes the girls on stg / backpage / listcrawler are all addicts. Stop being delusional as to what these girls are and the reason they want to see you.Exactly! Like I said a month or so ago. Escorts are not for dating and nit a very good way to kill loneliness. Pump'them and dump'them. Find a girlfriend if you want a real relationship, not a stripper or escort. They have husbands and boyfriends as it is anyways.

PhatDaty
09-25-18, 12:17
No problem with the debate on this, as I feel debate is all good. I will say that I can almost guarantee that the girls find it creepy if a guy brings gifts to them in this line of "work". Whether they will admit it to you if you asked them, but giving them gifts gives the vibe that the guy wants to be romantically involved so to speak. There is simply no reason for it. All any one of us are is a money source to these girls. None of these girls want to date or have anything to do with any guy they see on here. Want to test this? Tell the girl that you want to take them to dinner and a movie or ballgame for say 6 hours, pay for the date but not give them money for their "time". You will hear every excuse as to why they can't go, I guarantee it. And, its not about not being kind. I am kind and show respect by being on time, being clean, not aggressive, don't ask more than agreed upon or ask them to do something they are not comfortable with. As I expect the same from them. I also have small talk before and after while undressing and dressing. Do you guys who want to give them gifts, do you fall for the texts saying "hi sweetie" or the stripper that pretends to find what you do for a living so interesting and important? Also if you were to run into one of these girls at a starbucks and you were both alone so as take any potential embarrassment out of the equation, any one of these girls would bolt out of their quickly or pretend to be on the phone if you approached them. These girls post adds to provide sexual services for money so they can get their candy of choice. Thats not being harsh or criticizing its just stating facts. Its not treating them like a piece of meat. If they wanted a guy to treat them like a real date they would go on eharmony and actually choose who to see instead of meeting guys sight unseen. If they wanted friendship while meeting guys they would join an outdoor club or anyone of 100 different activities for this reason. Many of you guys need to watch dr. Drew and other therapists about manipulative behavior of addicts. And yes the girls on stg / backpage / listcrawler are all addicts. Stop being delusional as to what these girls are and the reason they want to see you.You keep insisting gift giving is always some desperate and awkward expression of affection.

When I buy the guy that works on my truck a beer at the bar, or bring him a sandwich from his favorite place, it doesn't mean I want him to put his head on my shoulder as I pay the bill or that I want him to think of me fondly before my next oil change.

I just want to thank him for always doing a great job on my truck, paying a little more attention to detail, and providing the peace of mind that my business is his priority (yes, I jump to the head of line for sudden repair etc.).

I approach ANY service industry encounter the same way, I have smooth sailing for any repair or maintenance need. I am one of those, "What do you need? I got a guy," sorta person. I do the same thing in business. It is called cultivating a network connection. Not only does it work well in all transactions, it is fun to occasionally put a random smile on someone's face.

Why would occasionally being nice to these women we pay to fuck be any different from another business transaction?

This really boils down to are you a nice guy, or a selfish asshole? Stop twisting it into a weird lonely hearts club. Now that is fucking creepy that you only equate gift giving with love.

Stop making this weird.

Dabbler
09-25-18, 12:54
Why would occasionally being nice to these women we pay to fuck be any different from another business transaction?If possible, when I'm getting the itch and either plan to travel to an AMP or call up a favorite for some "therapy", I make sure I'm freshly shaved, showered, clean clothes. If possible. I think of it as going on a date.

No, not a date with a girlfriend. I'm going to meet her parents and maybe we'll get married! No!

But I'm going to be spending some rather personal time with someone. I'd like to think that they might be clean and not stinky too. Have I been disappointed? Sure have!

But if I'm hoping a woman will put her face in a place that I really, really want her to, well, if she hesitates, I want it to be because she isn't into it, not because she's weighing the options of licking a garbage dump.

I've had women tell me how smooth my face is. (I've never had a woman tell me how BIG my dick is!) Now, maybe she's throwing me a line. Maybe she's comparing me to some of the other dudes she's been with. Whatever the motivation, I'd prefer to be the smooth-faced guy.

I've only taken a gift to a provider once. It was maybe 10 years ago. While I completely missed with the gift (stuff she wouldn't eat or drink), I think she appreciated it. To the guys on the other side, sure, I still paid her.

I wear an old shirt and stink like crazy when I mow my lawn. I then shower and shave before I go out to eat. Just sayin' I do the same when I go out to be sucked!

I may be buying a little gift in the future for a favorite of mine. What's the harm?

Screammy
09-25-18, 12:55
You keep insisting gift giving is always some desperate and awkward expression of affection.

When I buy the guy that works on my truck a beer at the bar, or bring him a sandwich from his favorite place, it doesn't mean I want him to put his head on my shoulder as I pay the bill or that I want him to think of me fondly before my next oil change.

I just want to thank him for always doing a great job on my truck, paying a little more attention to detail, and providing the peace of mind that my business is his priority (yes, I jump to the head of line for sudden repair etc.).

I approach ANY service industry encounter the same way, I have smooth sailing for any repair or maintenance need. I am one of those, "What do you need? I got a guy," sorta person. I do the same thing in business. It is called cultivating a network connection. Not only does it work well in all transactions, it is fun to occasionally put a random smile on someone's face.

Why would occasionally being nice to these women we pay to fuck be any different from another business transaction?

This really boils down to are you a nice guy, or a selfish asshole? Stop twisting it into a weird lonely hearts club. Now that is fucking creepy that you only equate gift giving with love.

Stop making this weird.I guess I'm a selfish asshole for not giving my mechanic a gift. Apparently paying for the service he provides isn't enough.

Timberwolf
09-25-18, 14:26
I guess I'm a selfish asshole for not giving my mechanic a gift. Apparently paying for the service he provides isn't enough.Knowing is half the battle.

Gray Patriot
09-25-18, 14:43
Why don't we all just do what we personally feel comfortable doing and quit whipping this dead horse. It doesn't sound like either side is going to change their opinion on the matter.

Be safe, Gray.

SpinnerLover69
09-25-18, 18:25
You keep insisting gift giving is always some desperate and awkward expression of affection.

When I buy the guy that works on my truck a beer at the bar, or bring him a sandwich from his favorite place, it doesn't mean I want him to put his head on my shoulder as I pay the bill or that I want him to think of me fondly before my next oil change.

I just want to thank him for always doing a great job on my truck, paying a little more attention to detail, and providing the peace of mind that my business is his priority (yes, I jump to the head of line for sudden repair etc.).

I approach ANY service industry encounter the same way, I have smooth sailing for any repair or maintenance need. I am one of those, "What do you need? I got a guy," sorta person. I do the same thing in business. It is called cultivating a network connection. Not only does it work well in all transactions, it is fun to occasionally put a random smile on someone's face.

Why would occasionally being nice to these women we pay to fuck be any different from another business transaction?

This really boils down to are you a nice guy, or a selfish asshole? Stop twisting it into a weird lonely hearts club. Now that is fucking creepy that you only equate gift giving with love.

Stop making this weird.If you feel you need to give gifts to get good service, and they base their performance on that, you are choosing poorly on mechanics or any other service. Your mechanic is not your friend, your are his customer. Your doctor and nurse are not your friend either, you are their patient. Any professional whose quality of work is contingent on gifts is not worth much. To these girls, giving them gifts mean nothing. And yes it is hinting you want something more than an encounter. Ill repeat, if you were not giving them money they would not want anything to do with you or me. Stop acting like your just being nice to them. Do you give flowers and candy to the barista girl at starbucks / walmart / target. I'll bet no. Its the white knight syndrome no doubt. And when they get clean and sober they will not contact you no matter how nice you think you are. They will have no reason to since our money is being used for their addictions. But. But you brought her flowers and candy in her low time in life, doesn't she remember how nice you were? And its not about being selfish, they set a price, we agree, get service, pay them. And lastly guys who brings these girls gifts go to the top of the line in their minds as suckers: guys they call and tell that they need money immediately for rent / food / bills or they will be kicked out of their place. It amazes me how many guys think they are more special than the last guy or the next guy that sees these girls.

NorinRad
09-25-18, 22:28
Not sure why it has to boil down to one person being right and the other wrong? I happen to agree with PhatDaty on this. In another life I worked in a service industry. Yes, have always found it beneficial to establish business "friends" and connections. I'm in my 50's and was raised to treat people the way I want to be treated. So if giving a small gratuity to the service people I deal with regularly is weird, guess I'm weird. Not saying you are a Selfish Asshole for not doing this, it is just how I choose to behave.

As for these Service Providers, not sure why some insist they are ALL on drugs? Yes, most of their stories are sad, and I'm sure most if not all do not do this by choice, but I'm quite certain they are not ALL junkies, or enslaved by pimps?? No, I don't think it odd to bring a girl a Drink, a Snack, or anything else reasonable should she ask for before a visit. Is stopping at McDonalds for a cheeseburger going to be a huge inconvenience? NO, and I think a small kindness might just go a little further in the service she provides to me.


You keep insisting gift giving is always some desperate and awkward expression of affection.

When I buy the guy that works on my truck a beer at the bar, or bring him a sandwich from his favorite place, it doesn't mean I want him to put his head on my shoulder as I pay the bill or that I want him to think of me fondly before my next oil change.

I just want to thank him for always doing a great job on my truck, paying a little more attention to detail, and providing the peace of mind that my business is his priority (yes, I jump to the head of line for sudden repair etc.).

I approach ANY service industry encounter the same way, I have smooth sailing for any repair or maintenance need. I am one of those, "What do you need? I got a guy," sorta person. I do the same thing in business. It is called cultivating a network connection. Not only does it work well in all transactions, it is fun to occasionally put a random smile on someone's face.

Why would occasionally being nice to these women we pay to fuck be any different from another business transaction?

This really boils down to are you a nice guy, or a selfish asshole? Stop twisting it into a weird lonely hearts club. Now that is fucking creepy that you only equate gift giving with love.

Stop making this weird.

Muppet
09-25-18, 23:01
Already giving her the savage swizzle stick dick of fury. Once she's had that, what more is there to want in the world??

Other than her desire for you to cum quick and get the hell out so she can put the byproduct of somebody's KMart chemistry set into their body.

LetsGetStarted
09-26-18, 00:31
Already giving her the savage swizzle stick dick of fury. Once she's had that, what more is there to want in the world??

Other than her desire for you to cum quick and get the hell out so she can put the byproduct of somebody's KMart chemistry set into their body.Thats funny, I never thought that bringing up pricing would lead to this subject, admin did the right thing by moving my original post from escort reviews to the mud hens arena.

JosephGorler
09-27-18, 03:28
Give a gift if you want to but it's clear from the justification and imaginations listed here: you're doing it for you. They don't fare near as much about that gift as you do. If it makes you feel better to give the gift and you've convinced yourself it'll improve the service, go for it. Most of the girls won't even remember you ever gave them a gift.

SpinnerLover69
12-31-18, 23:12
No doubt most of these ladies have legit sob stories. Not many sane women who had a good upbringing would choose to be in this field of work. With that said, 99% of them are junkies and opportunists who will lie, cheat and steal to get what they want. There's a reason they're on STG and not on eHarmony. They don't want to have a personal relationship, they want money. Be nice and respectful towards them but never believe or trust them. Have fun for an hour then go. You got what you wanted (hopefully) and she got what she wanted. No need to complicate things.

As for STDs, always use protection. You have no idea what these ladies have. If she's BBing you, she's BBing many many more men. You don't know if they look bad because of what they're using or because they have a funky disease. Perhaps both. Its not worth it guys. Even if you always use protection, I highly suggest getting testing at least twice a year. I believe you can go to the health building and get it done cheaply and it's anonymous, you don't have to give them your name.I make a conscious effort, a strong one to not get to know the girls and their personal lives. I keep the talk superficial just like you would with a coffee barista. The more you know about them its just sad and not appealing. The saying "be around someone long enough eventually they'll show all their cards applies to these girls as much as anyone. And I hate seeing their kids pics on their walls and hearing any stories about their past, just nothing but sad stories from these girls. Thats the dirty little not so secret about this hobby. The girls are not having sex with us because they like us, I think many guys just don't want to accept this. Its just superficial physical fun, us for the sex, for them to get money for their habit. Any intimate relationship with these girls is not even remotely possible to be anything real and healthy. And your not going to change them. Only rehab and years of therapy will.

QuestForFun
12-31-18, 23:43
I make a conscious effort, a strong one to not get to know the girls and their personal lives. I keep the talk superficial just like you would with a coffee barista. The more you know about them its just sad and not appealing. The saying "be around someone long enough eventually they'll show all their cards applies to these girls as much as anyone. And I hate seeing their kids pics on their walls and hearing any stories about their past, just nothing but sad stories from these girls. Thats the dirty little not so secret about this hobby. The girls are not having sex with us because they like us, I think many guys just don't want to accept this. Its just superficial physical fun, us for the sex, for them to get money for their habit. Any intimate relationship with these girls is not even remotely possible to be anything real and healthy. And your not going to change them. Only rehab and years of therapy will.You are 1 million % correct and we all need a reality check from time to time!

BBBJOnly
01-01-19, 00:26
I make a conscious effort, a strong one to not get to know the girls and their personal lives. I keep the talk superficial just like you would with a coffee barista. The more you know about them its just sad and not appealing. The saying "be around someone long enough eventually they'll show all their cards applies to these girls as much as anyone. And I hate seeing their kids pics on their walls and hearing any stories about their past, just nothing but sad stories from these girls. Thats the dirty little not so secret about this hobby. The girls are not having sex with us because they like us, I think many guys just don't want to accept this. Its just superficial physical fun, us for the sex, for them to get money for their habit. Any intimate relationship with these girls is not even remotely possible to be anything real and healthy. And your not going to change them. Only rehab and years of therapy will.Well said! I do ok for a while then get too close and absolutely regret it every time. My new years resolution is to keep my distance.

JackRasgon
01-01-19, 00:46
I make a conscious effort, a strong one to not get to know the girls and their personal lives. I keep the talk superficial just like you would with a coffee barista. The more you know about them its just sad and not appealing. The saying "be around someone long enough eventually they'll show all their cards applies to these girls as much as anyone. And I hate seeing their kids pics on their walls and hearing any stories about their past, just nothing but sad stories from these girls. Thats the dirty little not so secret about this hobby. The girls are not having sex with us because they like us, I think many guys just don't want to accept this. Its just superficial physical fun, us for the sex, for them to get money for their habit. Any intimate relationship with these girls is not even remotely possible to be anything real and healthy. And your not going to change them. Only rehab and years of therapy will.Wish I could have realized how resistant Scarlett was to the help I was trying to provide, but the wrong head was doing all the thinking. Even went as far as to order methadone from the dark web to help her get clean in hopes she could be reunited with her kid. I ate up every line of shit she laid down for me. And apparently asked for more. It has been an eye opening experience for me on how naive I can be when the little head is doing all the thinking. Should have bailed when she admitted to stealing $2 k from her in-laws to feed her drug habit, because it was only a matter of time before she did the same to me. This is not a hobby for people like me with a soft spot in their heart for sob stories. Unfortunately, I did not learn my lesson soon enough and continued to allow her to move back in after each time I kicked her out. Can not beat myself up enough for the string of poor desicions I made reguarding Scarlett. I welcome anyone else that wishes to tell me how stupid I was.

LetsGetStarted
01-01-19, 03:26
No doubt most of these ladies have legit sob stories. Not many sane women who had a good upbringing would choose to be in this field of work. With that said, 99% of them are junkies and opportunists who will lie, cheat and steal to get what they want. There's a reason they're on STG and not on eHarmony. They don't want to have a personal relationship, they want money. Be nice and respectful towards them but never believe or trust them. Have fun for an hour then go. You got what you wanted (hopefully) and she got what she wanted. No need to complicate things.

As for STDs, always use protection. You have no idea what these ladies have. If she's BBing you, she's BBing many many more men. You don't know if they look bad because of what they're using or because they have a funky disease. Perhaps both. Its not worth it guys. Even if you always use protection, I highly suggest getting testing at least twice a year. I believe you can go to the health building and get it done cheaply and it's anonymous, you don't have to give them your name.Screammy and Spinnerlover69 give the best advice in this forum, lots of members do give very valid points, but these two always seem to be right on the money.

Timberwolf
01-01-19, 13:12
Can not beat myself up enough for the string of poor desicions I made reguarding Scarlett. I welcome anyone else that wishes to tell me how stupid I was.It's called the power of pussy.

The root cause of things much worse too. Marriage, divorce etc. At least the sting from being taken by a working girl fades quickly.

Ump1969
01-01-19, 20:59
It's an interesting discussion over trying to help out girls. In most cases you can't. I have been involved with this hobby for forty years. Believe me, times have changed. I remember when it was a business. There were girls who made quite a good deal of money doing an entire slate of johns a night. They weren't all on drugs. Most of them now are addicts. Some have legitimate sob stories. Some are lying through their teeth, tearing at your heartstrings. The key here is that most mongers, if not strung out themselves, have absolutely no idea what it means to be hooked. If hooked, these girls will do or say anything to get the next hit. When younger, I knew girls that made enough money to leave the business. Todays girls are mostly thinking only about the next hit. Some talk about stopping, but I have never personally known a girl who quit. They will demean themselves, tell any lie, and offer anything for that next hit. You cannot help them. I am simply telling the truth, not demeaning them or us. Unless you know a foolproof method to get them off using, you can't help. If you are too softhearted to realuze that, you will be robbed or cheated, or at the very least, disappointed. Sorry if I seem hard-hearted to some of you. But I have been there and tried to help.