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Cuiser,
Thank you for that very informative report. I've received my posting "priviledges" just recently, but I've been reading here on the boards for at least a couple of years. Your report was worth more than a year's worth of pointless ramblings of us johns picking up nameless SW's on random streets that don't have names receiving "bbbjcimabcdef" and had a great time.
How are the LE activity on your route from Tropicana all the way to Boulder? I always figured high LE activity in the old downtown, but never observed too many in south to eastern Vegas area where you mentioned. If you want to PM me please feel free. You never know how many LE's are actually regulars here on the boards that get the same tips as we do. At the same time though, I guess we should all be careful what we say knowing that our "antagonists" are high and large lurking around the WSG Forum too.
Vanderley
LV Fan, I thank you for your inspiration for my first post, even though it is a little late (I apologize).
I visited Las Vegas with a friend of mine for the three day Easter weekend back in April. I read a little of the Las Vegas section and I was determined to check out, and potentially find, some action.
That Saturday night my friend and I split up, he isn't the monger type. It was about 2am and I was about to go check out SWs when I got a phone call from my friend. He was breathing hard and told me to get a cab and go to Cheetah's to pick him up. I am telling this second hand, but this is what he claims happened:
My friend went to Cheetahs and got a lapdance from a dancer. She was skilled enough to make him jiz in his pants. She then turned around and demanded $800 from him. My friend said he didn't have the money and had to go out to his car. The girl then demanded $500 and called the security guards. Not knowing what to do, my friend just ran out of the place! The guards chased him but he managed to get away, temporarily, and give me a call. 15 minutes later I picked him up from a distant sidestreet in the cab and the guy is puking because he ran so hard. I eventually had to take a cab back to pick up his car. I went inside and got a mediocore lapdance, told the girl I had to take a phone call, walked outside, got the car and left. I told my friend to look on the brightside, he got a free lapdance.
What is everyone's take on this dancer demanding $800? Do strippers really expect to get away with that? If it was me I would say, "Ya, so what, here's your $20". Simply amazing.
I did eventually go SW hunting at 4am. Picked up a 7 at Mirage. Took her back to my hotel where I found out she doesn't like her breasts to be touched or kissing after I paid my $$. Big mistake. I'll know better next time. And don't get me started on the attitude.
Desert Dude,
Naked City is west of the Strat. Trust me on that. In fact the Strat bought up a few blocks of it for it's parking garage. That area of Meadows Village, as is its proper name, has been the ghetto since the late 70's. In fact in the early 80's the Marielitos got so bad & thick in that area of Tam Drive that Metro developed a task force for it in 83. They carry most of the blame for effectively turning the area into a pure scumhole. The increase in crime in that area was phenomenal because of them.
I don't know if you're familar with the Marielitos but they were the criminally insane Cubans that Castro had decided to cast-off from Mariel in 1980. Thousands of them had set up shop in the Naked CIty because of the cheap housing. You could walk down the street past one of them and get your throat cut for no reason. You looked at him - you didn't. No reason. It was a brutal time in that area and of course other ethnicities in the area felt invaded and threatened as well. But after the Marielitos were "contained" the area didn't get better. A lot of people would love for the Strat to buy more of the area behind the Aztec.
The touristy books etc. define it as the area from Sahara to Downtown because of the old business faces and little motels but the true Naked City area is Commerce to Industrial and Sahara to Oakey. The heart of it is by the park area between Fairfield and Tam. That Fairfield half traffic circle was just as hot before the Strat bought the land up on those blocks.
Trust me on this - I know what I'm talking about.
Know why it's called the Naked City?
Turbo Trader
07-16-04, 12:44
Junkyard -
I've been to Cheetah's so many times over the past 10 years I might have have a seat in the back VIP area named after me. But I haven't been there in the past year.
Had messy pants several times, but never a problem with the girls or bouncers. I've had a shot girl go topless and give me a lap dance. A folding favor (.2) to the VIP bouncer went a long way for privacy.
Your buddy's story sounds like a lot of BS.
Turbo
I've heard this Cheetah's story somewhere before I forget where. Sorry, but it sounds like a sack of bullsh_t to me.
I don't know how many times I've jizzed in my pants at Cheetahs (and other clubs) over the last ten years and not once have I had a girl demand money like that. If your story is true, and your friend went jamming out the door, he probably didn't have the .2 to give to the dancer.
There's a lot of anal bouncer sonsabitches at these clubs, but a lot of them will suddenly go blind as long as you slip them a good tip.
If it's not obvious that the girl is trying to get you off with some serious rubbing action, tell your friend he might not want to make it so obvious when he nuts. If the girl is giving you a regular old lapdance (no sucking, no rubbing) and you scream "Aaagghhh!!!" and spasm like a motherf_cker, you may have some problems with the girl. Even so, the worst that could happen is a girl giving you a real disgusted look and having to tip her an extra .2 on your way out.
You gotta test the waters. If he nutted in his pants the chances are he had more than one dance. You can always tell with the first dance if the girl is good to go. Even if you can't tell, you can certainly tell if she a scamming nutcase on the first dance. If you find a good girl, take her to the vip and again, test her out. If she's proven gold, THEN go slip the bouncer a tip (or let the girl go give it to him) and the night is yours until your manhood calls it quits.
Whoever gets scammed like that a 'reputable' place like Cheetahs only makes your friend look like a complete moron (or full of it). Avoid the clip joints like the CanCanRoom and you should be doing just fine in Vegas.
Junkyard,
Your friend's story about Cheetah's was posted back on May 6th, again second or third hand, by Mystic Pimp.
http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=215844&highlight=Cheetahs#post215844
It sounded suspicious back then, and it sounds suspicious now.
There is no way that a dancer would demand $800 for a lap dance and expect to get away with it. Most likely your friend misunderstood and got chased because he did not pay for the $20 lap dance. Either that or he took her to a VIP room, where the bill could add up to $800 if he was in there a long while.
V.
Desert Dude
07-16-04, 18:32
Cienega,
I certainly do defer to your history and knowledge of the vegas scene. Thanks for posting, we've learned a lot from ya. PM if I can buy ya a beer next trip to town.
Cheers
Junkyard wrote "What is everyone's take on this dancer demanding $800? Do strippers really expect to get away with that? If it was me I would say, "Ya, so what, here's your $20". Simply amazing."
I remember a guy that was brought into the VIP room at Crazy Horse II and didn't know it was the VIP room. Anyway after the bullshit with the girl and the joint was discussed and he refused to pay he was found outside with a broken neck and the charges on his C/C. One of the bouncers who had him in a chokehold tossed him, took his wallet out, charged his cards, put his wallet back and left him there.
There was a big stink about it due to the witnesses - one of which was his friend. The city's reaction was to raid all the other joints (Galardi's). Story is the CHII boss is tied to the Gambino family, many of the employees (one of whom is a dirty ex-cop) are "connected" with that and other families and Oscar (former mob lawyer) did nothing but raid the competition.
This is what promted the Feds to investigate.
It ain't a secret that most of these joints are mob sponsered in one way or another. Think about that the next time some gargantuan bouncer has a problem with you.
Here's a link with some misc background on these joints:
http://www.americanmafia.com/Inside_Vegas/10-14-02_Inside_Vegas.html
It's good shit.
Here's one to the broken neck deal:
http://www.stevemiller4lasvegas.com/NachmanTranscript.html
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Usually in the back lot.
The latest report from my most recent trip to Las Vegas.
I was walking along the strip outside the Mirage and a car stopped with two sw asking if I wanted any company. You should keep in mind this was around 4:30am and I was very drunk. I was hesitant at first but the deal was too good to pass up. I jumped in the car and we drove to an area behind one of the major casinos on the south side of the strip.
The girls were about a 6 in the looks department and each had a D cup. Since, I only wanted a BJ they each took turns performing a CBJ, while I fondled the other one. At the end of the session they indicated that a girl on girl show was available at one of the local motels.
Mystic Pimp
07-17-04, 16:23
Going on the assumption that there are two types of people in Vegas (tourists and locals) what differences are there in the types of "adult" activities that favor locals, and those that favor tourists?
GettingTang
07-17-04, 19:03
Mystic Pimp
Simple
Tourist= gets ripped off , over pays, poor service!
Local= low price, better service.
TANG~!
Info Please:
I've got a three dayer midweek coming up in October. Probably staying at the MGM or Treasure Island. No car and I don't really want to rent one. I'm there to drop a few hundred at the craps table, catch a show, and eat well.
I may catch one of the strip clubs one night, for kicks. But if I wanted to get some actual GFE attention, what would be my best shot?
Oh yeah, I'm not made of money, but I have a bit to splash around.
Tatoosh
Member #1620
07-18-04, 07:56
I would like to make one comment and answer one question. First just an FYI; why is the naked city called the "naked city?" Back in the 60's and early 70's, this area was known to house many of Las Vegas' showgirls. Since many shows were topless, the girls would sunbathe naked. Has anyone ever seen a topless show where the girl had a bad tan line? I don't think so. Hence the naked city was founded.
Second, to answer CRUISER's question about the law on talking to a provocatively dressed lady. Clearly solicitation is illegal and if you happen to be talking to undercover LE you're busted. There is also a law called "patronizing." I'm sure there is some grey area here but why chance getting busted. For example, the hoe approches you and says "how would you like to go somewhere where I can give you a blow job for $20? You say "sure"... you are busted. I don't totally understand the law either. I don't even think Johnny Cochran understands the law to its total extent. However, if there is a sting going on and you even appear as if you are interested in solicitation, it might be your word against theirs and guess who's going to win.
I'm full of lot's of worthless (and some interesting) information. I do know a few things about mongering but have been on my best behavior (no more mongering for me) for about a month now. It's almost like there should be an MA (mongerers anonymus). It really is an addiction but I have found peace with rosy palm and a good porn. It saves a few bucks. If I ever hit megabucks, i'll be back in action with a different "10" every day.
Please be careful all, and good luck.
1620
Cruiser, giving a ride to a provocatively dressed woman is not a problem. However, giving a ride to a known street walker, no matter how dressed, is usually a problem.
Beat cops know the local girls and it's very hard to explain when you have one in your car. It's especially bad if you give them a line of BS like she's your girlfriend/cousin/tour guide. Also, the girls don't get in a whole bunch of trouble out here so they're usually straight up with the cops. If they're HIV infected, it's a felony offense, otherwise the worst they have to deal with is a ticket, and most would rather deal with that ticket than get on the cops bad side for lying.
TJ
Memeber 1620,
"First just an FYI; why is the naked city called the "naked city?" Back in the 60's and early 70's, this area was known to house many of Las Vegas' showgirls. Since many shows were topless, the girls would sunbathe naked. Has anyone ever seen a topless show where the girl had a bad tan line? I don't think so. Hence the naked city was founded."
We have a winner!
Travel Guy
07-19-04, 09:56
Need a little help.
I will be traveling to Vegas with two friends to play golf and enjoy the great escorts in your city.
My question. After golf we would like to stop off at nice Strip Club so we can get all worked up for our evening with our escot. Can you recomend some clubs that we would enjoy.
I can just imagine the bosses back east having a fit seeing these pissants causing trouble creating a negative spotlight in Vegas.
I can just see a Sopranos yelling episode now.
Cienega32 wrote: "Know why it's called the Naked City?"
I don't, and I have wondered, so go ahead and spit it out for us if you please.
#1620 & C. 32,
Thanks, and pardon the redundant post; caught up with you on the next page. Holy sh*t, talk about a place going downhill, those were definitely better days in that neighborhood.
I will be in town next week, staying at the Orleans. Is there any talent at that hotel, or do I have to be on the strip? Please let me know so I can change my hotel, if neccesary!
I've actually seen a few CG's at the Orleans at the bar on the main floor. Not too bad looking. I haven't ever seen them approach anybody (I guess for obvious reasons), but it's worth a shot if you're staying there. I certainly would have if I had a room there but I did not.
Let us know how it turns out.
It's interesting to read about the former "Naked City." I don't know how many times I've driven through there at night not knowing that it's supposedly one of the more violent areas of Vegas. I had absolutely no idea.
All the best strip clubs like the OG, CH2, Cheetahs are all mere blocks from there, so I've tried finding shortcuts through that neighborhood so many times in the middle of the night. It always looks DEAD whenever I go through there, with practically no street lights. I drive a pretty nice car too, I'm surprised nothing ever happened to me if these rumors of violence are true. Dumb luck I guess.
Can anybody tell me if there are any talent at Oshea's casino? I've been by there numerous times and always spot some major hotties standing around with friends by the bar in the back. I never stuck around long enough to verify if they are working girls or normal girls (off duty strippers) waiting for friends to show up for a night on the town. They are by far the hottest girls I've seen outside Bellagio.
Two things,
First off, I agree with Vanderley, I've driven, and on a few occasions, walked thru "Naked City" back in the early to mid 90's late at nite, heading back to my hotel, and never had a problem. Maybe just dumb luck!?!?
Second, I'll be in LV the begining of august, staying at the Tropicana, my question is, Any CG's working the bars at the Trop?? or at a casino near by, that would come back to the Trop with me??
Thanks for any info, Good luck to all, BIGGUY
Just a couple of casino reports to add to the mix. Keep in mind that I like to gamble and drink before I do my mongering, so my beauty meter might be off on some of the girls.
Palms: Was hopping at the center bar. A dozen girls I'd bet. I'd go up for a drink every once in a while and get one to flash me a breast to prove she wasn't a cop. They were all pretty attractive, ranging 6-8, but they all wanted insane prices, $300 to start, with no negotiating going on. There was an award show going on in town, so they probably had richer pickings then me. Ended up drinking too much and going home with some blonde chick that I met, but that's a different story.
Mandalay Bay: Quality at the bars appears very high, but the snobbishnish and prices that go with it. If you're not dressed in a nice suit, or wearing $200 sneakers they won't even look at you. Never got a quote since I was wearing jeans and a shirt, but I did enjoy looking at them. 8-10's easy, but looking for rich guys. The girls working the slot machines were cute too and much more approachable. Met a brunette, an 8 in looks and body. She wanted $200, I countered with $90 since that's what I had in my pocket. It was early AM Monday morning, so she took it. Got a room at the cheap hotel across the street. As soon as we got in she stripped and had a great body, stripper toned with a pierced belly button. Immediately started undressing me and giving me a CBJ. She had left her pants on and I told her I wanted to see her ass, she complied immediately and then climbed on for some reverse cowgirl. There was a mirror in the room and she watched herself some, so she wasn't having a horrible time. About 15 minutes in though came the old phone call trick, where she had to answer the phone. She did at least stand bending over the counter so I could see her great ass. Ended up finishing myself off and passing out.
I got digits but last time I was in Vegas it had been disconnected. While it ended kind of rushed it was 5 in the morning, I could barely stay awake, and I did appear to get a decent deal by Vegas pricing, so I didn't consider it a bad experince at all. In fact I still think about her ass, she was *very* well built.
Anyways, not much that hasn't been said before but thought I'd share what I could.
Good Evening All!
I am staying at the Four Seasons hotel starting today for a week and prefer petite younger women and am looking for experienced gentlemen to forward me contacts from the Las Vegas area.
Cost is not really a consideration but like everyone here if you can save some money then why make an additional donation.
If anyone can email me with details names etc... much apppreciated.
Thanks in advance!
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Gents,
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Long Duck Dong II
07-23-04, 16:55
Was in Vegas this weekend and it was dead. Fortunately I had the ole lady with me. But I definately checked some of the spots. Aladdin's bar was dead, MGM's was dead, along with Tropicana, Sahara, & Paris. I went and checked out Trop ave west of the strip and that too was dead. All in all, it was worthless for mongering.
Poppen Rulez
07-24-04, 09:03
I wonder if the motels around the strip are kind of a good bet to check out a girl - when I was there last year (I guess it was a saturday) it seemed that every 2nd room was with a working girl and while I was there I was approached several times up to where it got incomfortable for me. Maybe someone from LV or with insider knowlegde can confirm that.
Mystic Pimp
07-24-04, 14:02
Got this story thru the grapevine...would be very interesting if this happens:
VEGAS GETTING XXX-TRAVAGANT
July 19, 2004 -- If Las Vegas' mayor has his way, The Strip may soon
be truer to its name.
Mayor Oscar Goodman told Time magazine, "It's just a matter of when"
casinos will be able to open strip clubs. The gambling palaces are
negotiating with the gaming commission to get permission to add lap
dances to the menu.
But as part of his effort to reverse the city's move toward
respectability, Goodman, a former defense attorney for accused
mobsters, wants to go a step further.
Prostitution should be legal in the casinos, too, he tells Time.
Goodman faces resistance from the more conservative gaming-control
board which recently forced the Hard Rock Café to remove a billboard
with a naked woman lying on a blackjack table.
Jeremy Olshan
nypost.com
--- End forwarded message ---
Late Night
07-24-04, 15:35
What ever happened to the idea of turning downtown LV to little Amsterdam? now that would be nice!
GettingTang
07-24-04, 15:54
Vegas tried the novelty idea of turning the strip into Disneyland, it worked for a while, but the magic is fading, they also tried world convention marketing and this seems to have taken hold permanently and seems to be here to stay as far as attracting visitors.
However, I think on old cliche applies here when it comes to Vegas, one the city fathers should have realized long ago. "if it aint broke, don't fix it"! Vegas is, or I should say was the city of sin, until they ruined it. Sin city is what built it. The booze, the gambling, and yes, damn it, the GIRLS~! Now I've been screaming this for years, bring back the cheap hookers, a few seedy joints where they know you by first name, and let a few things go unnoticed and Vegas will once again flourish!
They can still have their conventions, they amusement parks, but damn it, give us good old timers the Vegas we grew to love years ago!
Hell, I still remember my first trip to Vegas, years ago I stayed at the Barbery Coast, I played the tables for 5 hours my first night, I lost about $1400 bucks, I remember the pitt boss with a cigar in his mouth, walk up to me, and pat me on the back. He told me quietly, if there is anything I need, anything at all, to let him know, he would see to it I got it. He even told me if I needed some female companionship, he could get me a nice girl to my room on the cheap. I remeber the strip crawling with hundreds of high class hookers all day and night. No one ever got hurt, it was all in the name of fun, it was not allowed, but it WAs allowed! The girls were many and they were great! Vegas then became a frequent destination, I traveled there monthly. Now at this point and time, I'll never go back, unless they change back to the way it was!
TANG~!
Lip Licker
07-24-04, 16:17
Went to OG's during the day, it was slow but it seems the bouncers are virtually non-existant around the dancers. The DJ looks over everyone which was a little disturbing but he didn't seem to care much about anything. I guess touching depends on the girl as different girls allowed different degrees of roaming hands.
Tried CH2 at night, it was full. Dancers were friendlier and like Sapphire, it seems they were from all over the country and in town for a few weeks/weekend. There was a good mix of girls and many were 9-10's. I learned that some dancers want you to touch them, just watch out for the bouncers. I had initially kept my hands on the chair for lapdances and 3 out of 4 girls would grab my hands and put them on their ass/tits.
Have yet to try Cheetahs, from all I hear, it is great. Don't even bother going to Little Darlings, it is a waste of time. Quality/quantity is much better at OG's, CH2, Sapphire, (most likely at Cheetahs), and you'll probably pay less.
Monday night there were a few petite CG's walking around the tables by the lamp bar area.
Things are always great at the strip clubs until the LE f_cks it up. Beware of stings at the OG every August. 50+ girls get cuffed and fined each year which gets ALL the good girls fired and sent away. It takes several months to pick up again.
For these reasons, the best dancers are girls who've only been dancing for less than a year. All the dancers that stick around for a few years are either cold dancers, dancers that have just been lucky, or sneaky in their techniques. There's still some gold to be found, but summer is definitely a blackout season in Vegas as far as strip clubs go.
Vegas will be pure heaven if the LE left things alone. If the below statement becomes true about prostitution becoming legal in Vegas, say no more, I'm moving there the day I hear the news. It will be the best mongering destination in the world.
Mystic - A lot of that seems to be taken out of context. As far as the Hard Rock's billboards - they were kind of racey in their own way but really no more racey than some of the showroom ads. Here's a link to the story:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/business/2004/jan/22/516220392.html
Hiz Honor has said in the past that he would be open to a dialogue regarding legalized prostitution in a controlled environment such as a contained block. He wasn't promoting or suggesting that it happens but that he would be interested in hearing any ideas about it. His thinking was more along the lines of an area like the "houses" in Pahrump with health regulations, etc. or like it was in the beginning in Vegas.
Here's the local news story about Oscar's Time story with the full quotes:
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2060527&nav=168XOxRP
A little different than the quote from the Holy Grail of sensationalism, The New York Post. I haven't read the Time story but I have seen Oscar on the news talking this stuff.
Now then - where have all the local chicas gone? Trop seems dead, Boulder seems dead although I did see one very cute Polynesian type chick down by Sams last week. Looked too good to me if you can dig it.
Also I would look twice this weekend being there is some sort of transexual beauty contest at the Riv going on. Imagine that. Reaching down between her legs and finding out she's bigger than you!
Play Naked
07-25-04, 01:17
The Flamingo and Bugsy's Bar is the can't miss spot. Very down-to-earth, mostly girl-next-door types. This has been consistient over my last 3 trips. Dress decent and just watch for awhile. If you buy them drinks, make them laugh AND they can't drum-up any business, you can end-up with a freebie if you hang-in there late enough. It's worked for me twice. Even if you just want to cut to the chase, you shouldn't have to pop more than 1 or 1.5. Just treat them nice, the Flamingo seems to attract nice, decent working girls.
Mystic Pimp
07-25-04, 17:32
From my visit to Vegas a few weeks ago, I'm suprised there isn't more adult oriented stuff on Las Vegas Blvd. If you guys can have cabs advertising "gentlemen's clubs" and the truckside billboards promoting various escorts, then a strip club on the Strip or in a casino can't be that much of a stretch. Sex sells, right? And isn't this supposed to be "Sin City"? I don't think you could have that concept in New York, in Los Angeles, in other major cities in America.
Desert Dude
07-26-04, 12:39
Another great Vegas weekend. Saturday, around 4pm, trop/ind track had a slightly heavy but attractive bsw, went by in these little white sweatshorts, came back in red shorts. Didn't partake, but was obviously available. Then to dinner, concert, etc. Back at low-brow downtown hotel, hanging out on the balcony around 2am. Gal walks out of room 3 doors down, with black dude. I nod at him, smile at her, she chats me up. Said she'd be back in 10 minutes, I thought, yeah, right. 11 minutes later, she rolls up. We go in her room. Now, I've lately been going with the sw's, anything from 20-40 max. It's been a long while since a cg or brothel. So when she said 100 for half hour, 200 for two, with no limit on pops with the hour, I thought, ok, it was time to splurge. So over to the Western to hit the ATM.
Am I glad I did!!! Long straight brown hair, smaller breasts, b-cup, world class ass. No tats, no piercings. Very slow and inspired bbbj. Couldn't take more than 10 minutes of cowgirl then. After a short snuggle break, went into some animal doggie. It's been a long time, if ever, since I've had to match such energy! Sorry guys, no contact info, but a name of Rayne. Italian, through and through. Said she usually hits south strip casinos, Hard Rock, etc. Then next morning, walking Fremont, a sort of ok wsw. Even though I'd had a big night, figured for 20 max, it would be fun to start the day with a bj, even if I couldn't nut. Told her I'd spent my play money the night before, which I had, and that I had 20 to work with. She was psyched just to get in air conditioning for a while! In the middle of a nice bbbj, she said I was lucky, cuz usually that's all I'd get for 20, that a half and half was 40. I said I thought that WAS all I was getting. She said nope, and climbed on for the ride. What a great way to start a day. Gave her a $5 tip and a ride down to 15th and Ogden. Good weekend overall.
looking4poon
07-26-04, 15:32
Hello all
I really hope Mayor Goodman can swing legal prostitution in Las Vegas. With casino type gambling all over the Usa in the form of River boats or indian reservation gambling. Las Vegas is no longer the only place where a person can get there gambling fix like it was 20 yrs ago or even 10.
Las vegas has always been 1 step ahead of the rest of the country on human vices might has well go and do it in the prostitution side of things too. Come on Vegas I'm rooting for ya.
Member #4063
07-27-04, 14:39
Hey guys I am from Boston and we have a hot looking escort here this week named Jayde, could have been Jade at one time. She is Korean and has a Vegas telephone number. I have not been able to find any information about her so any help would be appreciated.
Jack
Gents, do be cautious and alert on west Trop. y'all.
I have been down Tropicana near Industrial four times in the past ten days or so (not hunting there, just driving) and on three of the four occasions there were two Metro cars apparently staking it out. They were in ordinary marked patrol cars in plain view, so I do not believe it was part of any sting operation, but they were in the back of a parking area set back from the street and someone who is not very discrete in their method of picking up something here might easily fail to notice them. It appears to me that they are just sitting on that location to suffocate the street activity for a while. Either that or they really like using their lunch breaks to catch an occasional view of fishnet stockings and stiletto heels.
I would not have noticed them myself if not for the fact that they roared out and pounced on a pair of nice looking BSWs the first time, and that incident and the other times I've seen them was on a weekday in the late afternoon or very early evening. I would probably not have spotted them after sunset.
He So Horney
07-28-04, 13:54
As previously posted, a wonderful masseuse is coming to your town. Her name is actually Jaime (she was referred to as Molly in the previous post), and she is a very pretty redhead with blue eyes, large gorgeous breasts, and a nice body that reflects her regular workouts at the gym.
She is in her early 40's, and once you've seen her, you'll be coming back for more. I have had erotic massages all over the country and she's one of the best. Back in St. Louis, she had quite a following as the posts in that section will attest.
Her price is very reasonable, and she does incall. She is locating not far from the Strip.
If you want a very arousing but safe encounter with a very attractive hot woman that will leave you completely "drained" of your tensions, pm me for her L.V. phone number.
She is a very special lady and no one that has seen her was ever sorry, and most became repeat clients.
He So Horney
RJ Squirrel
07-28-04, 17:48
Unfortunately, I think legalized prostitution in Las Vegas will be more difficult than folks think. Clark County is prohibited by state law from having brothels. From an article on the nvbrothels.com website by Nevada state archivist Guy Rocha:
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Only in Clark County is brothel prostitution prohibited by state law. In 1971, after some talk of legalized brothels near the Las Vegas Strip, and mention of Joe Conforte’s involvement, the state legislature amended the local option provision to exclude counties having populations of more than 200,000 from legalizing brothels. The law is periodically amended to increase the population figure, now 400,000, to exclude Clark County, without specifically mentioning the county.
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If the state legislature is taking the trouble to actively update the amendment, I'd guess that reversal of it will be an uphill battle.
Vegas Baby
07-29-04, 03:51
Last night was almost my last. I had a few drinks and decided to cruise the Boulder Hwy. I was over by some apartments on S Mojave. i see a BSW I pull over and she jumps in the car. She wants to go back to her room . I had bad judgement at the moment. We go upstairs and do the deed. Scary place. We head back out to the parking lot and are confronted by 2 guys. One guy is threating to shoot me and the other is arguing with the girl about money. It was about drugs as these were small time dealers working the hood. I kept my mouth shut and just got in the car and split while they were yelling and screaming. I have used up all luck on this one. I thought for sure the bastard was going to shoot. No more streets for me.
All I can say is watch out and be careful.
Vegas Baby
RJ Squirrel - that info is a bit dated as Clark County had surpassed 400k in the late 70's.
The actuality of it all is that Conforte was able to talk the Storey County (by Reno) officials, by swinging votes their way, to legalize the licensing of the old Mustang Ranch. Nevada upheld the county's right and then other counties began to legalize it.
In Vegas they were afraid Conforte would trade low rents for votes on his favorite politicians (also the "hurt the image" BS) so they convinced the State to ban it in counties over a certain population that would only include Clark. That way it was out of the hands of county officials. That's true that Clark is the only county where it's illegal by State decree.
There are a total of 5 counties where it's not legal - all but one (other than Clark) have lower than a 6 digit population. So the State says it's legal and up to the county to pass final judgement. Lincoln County outlawed it after 7 years of legal licenses. Eureka has no stand on it either way - not legal. not illegal.
Clark County has over 1.5 million people (3/4 of the state). Washoe County (Reno/not legal) went over 200k in the early 80's & is closing in on 400k. No other county is close to that in size.
What Mayor Oscar was talking about was that he would be interested in hearing ideas/thoughts on a "Block 16" type revival where it would be limited to a certain bounded area. And it makes sense to be of that frame of mind. Cleaner, safer, etc.
Although, the lack of "the hunt" makes it sound boring to me.
Purple Porkchop
07-29-04, 09:10
Was in town for 48 hours and wanted a little fun. Checked the yellow pages and found a small ad under massage for a tantra massage. Heard alot about them and was curious. Called and made an appointment. She insisted I bring ID. She was a little chunky, thats the bad news. Shw would not do FS or any kind of BJ, but, she kept me on the edge for almost 30 minutes. which is what tantra is all about. Finished russian still. Interesting, she didn't know that a TF was russian. 3 jackson's at the door plus tip up front. I would definitely go back.
looking4poon
07-29-04, 11:54
Hello all,
RJ: Brothels in Vegas are a long way down the road if ever. However Vegas already has Escorts services avalable all over the place. It would not be that far a stretch to just make those legal and less worry free from stings.
Hey guys,
I'm on my way back.
Is there anything going on in those adult theaters that I've seen around vegas? Last time I stopped by the Adult Superstore on Trop...they had a theathe. I saw a sign that says no sex in the theatre...regularly checked. Well, sometimes that means sex is going on. Plus I seen a few guys and girls coming out a lil funny looking.
Your thoughts?
Muggs,
Metro seems to patrol the theatres on a regular basis both inside and out. This is true from west trop all the way down to those on boulder near henderson. If you noticed while you were there, the booths had either no doors or clear doors. I think they patrol these more than the streets. Probablly because most of what used to go on (and still does occasionally) are homosexual acts, and metro is full of homophobes.
With that said, I have seen an occasional girl or couple looking for a third, but it is rare. You are better off at the casino bars.
Hope this helped.
Hey guys,
I will in Vegas in a couple of weeks. I was wondering if anyone had any info on Shery's Cabaret strip bar. I think its off Sahara Ave.
Thanks
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Daddy Lows
07-30-04, 13:30
Hi Guys,
Just a query. I had a most interesting encounter with a light-skinned LSW who claimed to be a dancer from Cheetah's among other clubs. She's about 5'5", face=7.5 (acne scars) body=7 (the slightest bit chubby in the middle. SHe's around maybe 125 lbs). She's got brown shoulder-length wavy hair with lighter brown high-lights. The most apparent thing about her is her beautiful big brown eyes. She said her stage name is Patti and that she knows a dark-skinned Puerto Rican girl named Eliana who also dances at Cheetah's (this girl I believe really dances there one weekend a month). Patti said she was visiting family in Inglewood when I met her on Century Blvd working the street. She also gave me an alias of Donna. She's got that European / Spanish fair-skinned natural beauty look.
Thanks in advance,
Peace
Muggs,
On my trips to the area the theaters were not productive. Only gay stuff.
There may be certain nights or times when couples may be in there but most of the time you pay the money and walk into about a dozen gay guys.
Shery's Ranch fancies me. Please advise how much should one expect to spend there?
Daddy Lows,
Don't exactly know the girl you are talking about however there is a lot of girls that fly into Vegas for the weekend and work the strip clubs for some fast cash. I even met one that was kind of the same description that you gave. Met her in May but I forgot her name. She was Latina and a bit busty with acne scarred face but still nice. She told me she was from LA and worked at Cheetah's Saturday's and Sunday's.
There was even this one time me and couple of my buddies walked into OG's when from across the room someone's yelling out my name. Lo and behold it's a dancer that I knew from Honolulu. Told me that she was on vacation and dancing at OG's couple nights a week while she was there.
So it's possible the girl you are a asking about dances at Cheetah's.
Visited Spearment Rhino the other day. Met a hot dancer named London. Small tits and 30ish but cute as hell. We chatted a bit and then went for private dances. 20 per song and she gave me a great HJ under the radar. I'll be back.
Crest Man,
Please be careful about the 'specifics' at these strip clubs, like the name of the dancer and what she did, etc. Even though we all appreciate the info, you're practically ruining it for everybody now that the managers are aware of what she does, which will now get her in close surveillance if not get her fired. Please remember that that EVERYBODY frequents these forums, club managers, LE's, -- not just the mongers.
Let's keep a good thing alive at these strip clubs.
Returned from LV a few days ago. Fremont was deader than I've ever seen it, Ogden and Stewart were only slightly better. Found spotty action in the Twain / Swenson area, also on Koval behind the casinos, and on Harmon near the Hard Rock. But the places where I hooked up were on Boulder. First one was near Atlantic across from Castaways, which is often a pretty good spot. Met Connie a friendly 30-something blonde who gave a pretty good BBJCIM for $20 in a nice secluded location she pointed me to. The real highlight however was finding Babette near Boulder Station a couple nights later. Pretty young southern brunette girl. Slender, healthy, dressed in shorts. It was obvious from her actions and conversation, as well as what she told me afterward that she's merely a semi-pro / amateur just beginning to dabble at the profession. That alone got me a little more excited. She said she was very good at BJs and she wasn't lying. Gave extremely enthusiastic GFE BBJCIM in my rental. If I were in town longer, would have loved to have FS'ed her. Very sexy girl.
Will Splatter
08-03-04, 20:55
I just got back from a weekend in Vegas. Had a little fun here and there, lost a little gambling, won a little more back, when to the place with the "fire a machine gun" add and fired a machine gun, gambled a little with picking up a girl outside a casino and found a sure thing at Sheri's ranch.
Picking up the girl outside the casino was a tallish blond on the crosswalk between the bellagio and Bally's. I was staying close, so we went back to my room. Was not really cheap (around standard escortish type pricing) and was fairly clinical with statements from her about it not being safe unless she was on top and she insisted upon holding the end of the raincoat during it's time on the inside.
Last day there I got a car and headed for Pahrump. I did not take directions for sheri's ranch, didn't have any handy, didn't have a computer handy to look them up, couldn't think of where else I'd find them. It is not easy to find, and there are no signs until you are in front of the place. Take directions.
When I got there I walked into the bar and ordered a beer. Several girls and a few guys were hanging around, a couple people playing pool. This little blonde comes up and intruduces herself and asks if I wanted a tour. After I accept the tour offer she tells me she's currently fetching a beer for a guy that she is giving a massage too, but that she'll be done soon and return to give me that tour. NEXT.
Next girl comes up right after she leaves, introduces herself (Roxanne?) and asks if I want a tour. So, she shows me around a little bit, offers to take me back to her room. We get back there and she explains that for $4000 we can take our time, maybe use a hottub, have a lot of fun and really enjoy ourselves, which really sounds nice, but for $4000 I can spend an entire week in some SE asian country and enjoy myself with a dozen little brown women, multiple times, staying at 5 star hotels from western chains. So, I counter with $300. She lets me know that we can do something, but it would have to be quick, won't specify what we can do, repeats it would have to be quick, suggests that maybe another girl would be happier with that offer and I could go back to the bar and try again. NEXT.
So I plant myself back on the barstool, get another beer, and chat up a couple other girls. I start getting really tired of explaining were I am from, that I've never been to this establishment before, were I am staying in Vegas, what I am there for, and how my gambling has been going (I decided it'd probably be best not to start discussing my earlier thrills with the machine gun).
The first girl, the little blonde, returned, got rid of the guy she was with, and asked if I was ready for the tour. We skipped the tour (already saw the tour) and continued back to her room. We chatted for a little while about a few things, she brought up the price, I mentioned my budget, she offered a little hand job, rub it on her tits, a blow job, and some sex was possible on that budget.
I forked over the cash, she left, returned, went into the bathroom, and came outa the bathroom nekkid. She promptly got me nekkid, and began to perfom every service negotiated a short time earlier, starting with her rubbing her chest all over me, putting a condom on me and giving a BJ, starting sex with her on top, swithing who was on top and switching back. For the finish she pulled the condom off and started tugging on it until it sprayed all over her tits.
Afterwards we chatted a bit, she told me that I could email her using her name @sherisranch.com, which left me the opening to ask how to spell her name, having long since forgotten what it was, and I hate asking there names after I get done with them (I try and show them some respect). Loni. Her pictures are on their site and acurrate.
I don't know if I would go back, I really just wanted to be able to tell my buddies I'd been there and done something. But $300 isn't too bad a deal unless you start comparing against SWs, and I generally don't like having to be closely watching to make sure I don't get shit stolen, or worse, from them.
Will Splatter,
Your experience at Sheri's Ranch sounds very similar to mine the one (and only) time I visited Sheri's a few years ago: ladies asking outrageous prices and not willing to negotiate down to a reasonable level. You got lucky and found one who would do FS for $300. In my case, I got tired and went next door to the Chicken Ranch. Back when I used to visit Pahrump, I found the Chicken Ranch to be much more reasonable (comparable in price to Las Vegas independents) than Sheri's.
V.
Been awhile since I last posted. I checked out the Industrial and Tropicana loop and found a few SW's working near the Motel 6.
I was in Golden Nugget the other night, when I hit a jackpot. While the machine was counting upward, this girl comes out of nowhere and flops down on the next stool. She asks me if I'm afraid of her and I ask her why I would be. She then tells me a sob story about how she is staying at the Plaza and needs $8 to cover her room. She goes on that she was in the casino industry as a BJ dealer for 20+ years... She then goes on to say that she isn't a prostitute or on drugs! Yeah, rriiggghhhttt! She then asks me if I want her to leave. I told her I couldn't help her and off she goes. There were also a few CG's working the bar near the players club. This all happened around 2:30 AM.
I've also seen a few SW's working between Hard Rock and Club Paradise.
Desert Dude
08-04-04, 11:41
Splatter,
I've partied with Loni too. How about that voice?! She has this high pitched, almost comical voice. I found it really cute. Yes, she is one of the more reasonable ones at Sheri's. It's hard to get more than a bj for less than what you spent. But she's one of the good ones that doesn't make you feel bad that you aren't spending the big bank. I'd recommend her!
Looking for a sensual massage with a "happy ending" ? If that is ALL you are seeking I recommend "Jayme" as described (but misspelled) by "He So Horney". She can be reached at 702-731-5909 and really knows how to give a great massage and release.
Tell her "Ron" from St. louis sent you, and we miss her here.
Cruiser-
For the most part the legal brothels in NV totally suck. I went to one in Carson City and the girl hits me at $1000.00 for 15 minutes. I told her all I wanted to spend was $150.00. (Enough to get done in 90% of the worlds market...in some markets such as RIO, enough to get done a few times..LOL). Any way for that amount of money she told me I could watch her strip and jack off....Hell I could go buy a Hustler for $7.00 and jack off for free....
I have not done the deed in a NV brothel in years....doubt I ever will again. I dont know who the hell goes and pays these prices.
You are correct in saying TJ is a much better deal. Better prices, better quality, better service....I think I am planning my next trip!
Member #1620
08-07-04, 08:47
I have to agree that the NV brothels are a rip-off, especially Sherries Ranch and Madame Butterfly in Crystal. DO NOT go to these places. I know there is still some good street action if you have the patience, but I'm done with that scene. I still frequent a local amp and get great service (bbbj, but hand release, daty, and a decent massage) for $40 + 50. Often better than fs, at least for me.
1620
Brothels,
I don't know why anyone would go to a brothel to receive service. They are overpriced and most of the women don't compare to the ladies at the bars within the casino. I have picked-up girls numerous times at several of the strip casinos for -$$ who all rated an 8 or higher. Most are always willing to bargain depending on the time of night and how busy the town is. If the girl doesn't accept the price, I just move on to the next cutie. All of the major casinos have some type of action.
Most of the brothels are also located far from Las Vegas city center. Just my opinion
Rock the Room
08-08-04, 18:00
I agree with Elvis. Even if I hit the megabcuks or win the lotto, I wouldn't vsist a brothel in Nevada.
You might as well save the money for a trip to Thailand, where you can monger all night long in a city that seems like one great big brothel.
Just my opinion.
RTR
USTraveller
08-08-04, 23:29
I think Brothels are a great starting point for the new monger. It gets you into the "I can pay for it" mode. Once you pay for it once in a legal environment, doing it in other environments becomes easier. The brothel is where I started and I payed a lot more than I should have, and that was 6 years ago. I still may go again after I hit a big jackpot or something, but as long as I'm on a budget, I'll stay away. I'd like to think I'd be a better negotiator next time too.
Guys,
Wouldn't be great if Jackson could create a LAs Vegas AMP List? Then we can post our experiences and recommendations about Vegas AMPs. I'm here for a lil while and it's too many of them to try out and get bad services.
Member #1620
08-09-04, 03:32
Hey MUGGS,
That's what you and everyone else are here for. That's NOT Jackson's job. Read some of the previous posts and you just might find what you're looking for.
1620
I don't think that would be a good idea, Muggs. Why make it any easier for LE?
Has anyone here ever mongered out of the little hole in the wall motels on the Boulder Strip?
I'll be visiting in mid September and was thinking of staying at Sam's Town. Is there any CG action at that casino or would I be better off staying on the Strip somewhere? I've always stayed at Bally's or Alladin before, but my reason for being there this time is at Sam's.
GRAMPS
Hey, guys, making my first trip out. Can someone tell me what EXACTLY is the procedure/protcal(ie- things to say, wear, act, negoation tactics, hints, places to do it, postiosn) as far as
a. picking someone up at the casion bars?
b. walking into a brothel.
I know there is a lot to write, but any info would be great. I wanna have fun, but don't really honestly know how to act or what goes on in either event.
Thanks
Stroll Looker
08-09-04, 14:21
Cienega32,
I have used just about all the motels on Boulder between Charleston and Mojave. Most are very nasty rooms and want a fortune for you and the girl. I would recommend getting a room at the Delmar on Las Vegas Blvd its $40 for a couple of hours the rooms are ok there are porn movies and they do not ask for your ID when you check into the room.
I have noticed on Boulder just past Charleston there is a blue motel called the La Palms or USA something it always has seems to have some kind of action. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were girls always working out of that place. But the girls always look a little rough in that area so glove up.
Just curious, if you pick up a sw on the street, is a problem to take her back to one of the better casinos like Belagio, or should you get a different hotel where they don't look at you coming in, and only go for cg if you are at a nice hotel?
A while back, I was able to pick up a 9 out of 10 stripper, at one of the better strip clubs after spending money on her buying lap dances etc, but it was very expensive to take her back to my room, say over $ 1,000, but it was very fun and she stayed the night.
I am thinking about going out to Las Vegas soon since LA is getting kind of hot from LE if you know what I mean.
Player33,
You shouldn't have a problem bringing a sw back to the hotel as long as she is dressed appropriately. The sw's roaming the strip area are frequently in and out of casinos.
You may also want to try the casino bars for a higher class of action. They are more expensive, but you usually can get a good selection.
Player33,
You should not have any problem taking a girl to your hotel room with you if you accompany her. The only time I have heard of problems is if the girl wants to meet you at your room and gets stopped by hotel elevator security, but even in that case she can call up to your room, and you can come down and take her up (unless she is on that hotel's persona non grata list, but she should know that in advance).
Prostitution may be officially illegal in Las Vegas, but it will be a cold day in hell that you can't take an escort to your hotel room in Las Vegas. ;-)
V.
Desert Dude
08-10-04, 11:24
D Wright,
Read the past posts. You will find a lot of info, including that most fellas on this board are not, for legit reasons, big brothel fans. PM me if you want some scoop on 'em, I've had mixed results.
Had another successful weekend. LE was smokin hot saturday night. I had great luck in the morning. Second weekend in a row, bbbj/fs for $20. Heads up tho, saw two new LE vehicles, a bicycle [which I know is not new, but first time I saw them patrolling streets other than Fremont], and a small motorcycle, a dirt bike in fact. Also a couple white sedan unmarked units.
Hey Guys,
I am headed to Vegas for my second trip in november and I was wondering if there are any casinos that have topless waitress. I thought I might as well be looking at titties when I lose my money instead of just being teased. Also has anyone have news on the Asian apartment massage scene? Thanks for the info
Bd
What exactly is the "Boulder Strip"?
I'd like a backup area in case Aladin's is dead next time I'm up there.
Thanks.
Hey guys,
I was in Vegas last weekend, staying at the Trop. And while I didn't see any CG's there, They were all over the bar areas of Mandaly, Luxor , and NYNY.
As I was too busy losing at BlackJack I didn't have time to sit next to any of them and talk, but most of them were lookers,7's to 9's on my scale.
One good bit of info, as I was walking over the bridge from MGM to Trop, at around 1am, I was propositioned by this fine young girl, she was obviously working, so I took her back to my room and did the deed!! $$ for CBJ and CFSw/Multiple pos.
She was About 5'6" with heels, petite with nice ass, small breasts, blonde hair, really cute face, and she looked to be around 19 to 20. Her name was "Snow". Very skilled and worth every penny IMHO, YMMV.
She also told me that alot of her friends hang out on those bridges, Mostly after midnight till almost sun up. This was confirmed by my buddy who was coming back to the room around 3:30 am and told me he saw no less than a half dozen working girls between the two bridges he crossed to get back.
He said he saw a few of each, white, black, and asian, and he said they all looked good!!
Now for me personally, $$ for a hot girl right off the strip, is a hell of a lot better than driving 90 min. to some run down bldg. out in the middle of nowhere and paying $$$ or MORE for some used up old hag!!! But that's just my opinion.
Good luck, BIGGUY
Was out driving early Sunday morning around 3am up Boulder Highway towards Fremont St saw a WSW dressed in pink get dropped off at the RV park. Turned around as soon as I could and saw her sitting at the bus stop. Turned around again as soon as I could be was beaten by someone in a white Chevy truck.
Tried again Sunday night around 1am. Drove down Fremont towards Boulder Hwy. Saw what may have been a WSW walking down Boulder wearing a brown top and black skirt with high heels. Made a u turn as soon as I could but was beaten out again by someone else. Drove up and down looking for her later but could not find her or anyone else. Slow night I guess.
Ended up getting a CBJ from a BSW on Odgen and 9th. Goes by the name Maya(spelling ?). Claims to be from Little Rock. Kind of big girl with big tits and big ass. Gives a lame bj for about three minutes before she tells you to jack it off. B**** please, I paid for a BJ I will get a BJ. Was not to happy about it but did finish off the BJ. Claims to be visiting the area. Is with two others girls. Avoid if possible, but then again YMMV.
DWrong,
No, I'm not gonna type a recipe. Be yourself and keep your head on a swivel for girls that are scoping you out. They will usually speak to you if you nod at them upon making eye contact.
If you as green as you sound in your post, then you need to read this whole board from the last page forward in order NOT to get left holding your dick in Vegas. See terms and abbreviatons for RTFF :)
Listen to DD with regards to brothels unless your funds are nearly unlimited.
Bamadoggie,
Asian apt scene can be accessed as noted in a post by Vegas Baby and Myself. You can use the forum search for our posts (when Jackson gets it fixed, that is) in Nevada under our user names to home in on the tactics we used to locate two different services. PM me for digits.
LoveLOS
Was in Vegas over the weekend and wanted to share the experience.
After playing poker and loosing 90 $ I decided it was time for me to hit the road. It was about 3 am and I decided to take a walk on the bridges that kind of connect all the casinos. There were about 10 SWs, all of them atleast a 7 (on an escort scale), mostly white. After a round of walk, I smiled at a couple of girls who smiled back and asked me if I wanted to have some fun. I asked how much and they quoted $ 500 each. I said I could get a model for that price and they said it was negotiable. I talked them down to $ 300 for both of them and that I would have to do the deed twice. They agreed and off we went to my room.
The first girl was white. And the second a Philippino. Very friendly, made me very comfortable. Had a 10 minute break between the two of them, but overall it was a great experience. I had an appointment scheduled with a $ 400 escort the next day which I cancelled, coz, I knew it wasn't worth it when you can get equally good SWs for a very less price. Only thing is that they don't kiss and they shouldn't. Coz, after me, they went back to work again and I am sure the next person shouldn't kiss that mouth considering where it was a few minutes back :-)
I conclude that, if you are going to Vegas, don't go to an escort (unless you really are into GFE) or don't ever drive to the brothel. Always trust the bridges that connect the casinos. After 1 pm you will see all kinds of girls. Mostly a 7-9 on the escort scale. 200-300 $ max. No doubt sin city is a fun city.
NT
Disdain,
"Boulder Strip" is another term for "Boulder Highway," which is what Fremont Street eventually becomes if you drive out east away from downtown. Same street, different names. It is definitely a driving route sometimes useful for seeking SWs, and walking it is out of the question.
The magic lamp isn't dead yet, but reliable sources (employees) tell me the Hollywood vultures are circling, waiting to snuff it in about a month. The back bar at the Flamingo is similar as a nearby alternative to the lamp.
Wastrel
DISDAIN: The Boulder Strip is Boulder Highway on the east side of town. Starts where Fremont Street ends. The old road to Arizona. Check your maps but it's a bit of a drive if you're touristing the strip.
Guys I'll be in vegas mon or tuesday with my buddies anybody got ideas how to have fun there. Or what to do there I'll be there for the ASD show . Write back or Pm me if u got suggestion or can show me around .
I want to Have fun this time when i go down there instead of wasteing my money at strip bar called CAN CAN It's a crappy place to be
Peace out
Dr Torpedo
08-14-04, 20:44
Speed, what is the ASD show? When is it?
I will be in Vegas next week. I noticed, as I was trying to book a room, that all the casinos downtown are sold out (normally always vacant) and that that the weekend strip rates are sky high? Is there some kind of convention that is causing everything to get jacked up? I hate Vegas when it's crowded.
If you want, PM me and we'll find some casino girls. I got a few phone numbers of some downtown honeys that I might call. Vegas ain't exactly cheap.
And yes, f-u-ck the strip clubs. A complete waste of money.
Does anybody know of a site that lists ALL of the upcoming Conventions in Las Vegas throughout the year with information on the approximate number of people that attend each one? There must be a thousand conventions I'm sure, but it's nice to know beforehand when planning a trip to Vegas. I'd like to avoid the big ones if possible. Vegas is always a better vacation spot for the average visitor when dealing with fewer tourists.
Thanks in advance.
Huge Erection
08-15-04, 17:33
Which bridge at Trop or Flamingo?
Dr Torpedo
08-15-04, 19:14
Speed, I just got your PM. Check your PM, I just sent ya something. I used to go to Vegas on a regular basis and know quite a few spots. WIll be there again soon. It'll be fun. Just hope the goddam convention leaves town before I get there. Damn conventioneers drive up the costs of everything.
Member #1620
08-16-04, 03:48
I must agree with Dr. Torpedo. Conventions bring in people from all over the country. Often these conventions are just an excuse for people to come to Las Vegas to get away from their wives, to gamble, to monger, or a combo of all three. However, the CG's are aware of these conventions and sometimes it brings more of them out. I noticed they were a dime a dozen (okay, more like $300-$500) at the Las Vegas Hilton during CES. People who come for CES are generally wealthy and can afford this. Surplus convention, however, brings the scum of the earth cheapskate motherfu**ers to town. They tend to bring a white shirt, a twenty dollar bill, and don't change either one. Conventions in general do help the economy of Las Vegas so they're not all bad.
On another note, as I thought I was done with sg's, I ran into Shyla (spelling?) who I have mongered with about 6 months ago. I really wasn't looking, but I saw her at the Gold Coast and happened to have $30 burning a hole in my pocket. Took her to my car for some bbbjcim (with spit out) on the top floor of the new parking structure their. I guess it's like being an alcoholic; once a mongerer, always a mongerer.
1620
P.S. to Jackson: do I need to change my name to become a senior member? I eventually would like to try. Thanx.
Lk Tahoe NV
08-16-04, 16:56
Las Vegas can be overrun by conventions at times driving up room rates and overcrowding all of the usual hangouts. I recommend checking out the Las Vegas Convention and Vistors Bureau website for upcoming conventions prior to making your travel arrangments.
Their website for convention dates is:
http://www.lvcva.com/finder/conventioncalendar/meetings
If you can work around the dates, you will find yourself great deals on hotels not to mention less competition from fellow mongers.
Viva Scotty
08-17-04, 16:40
Hello all you Vegas nuts.
New to the forum but not to places abroad.
Just a small note for those of you traveling to the Hartford Conn.area. When there pick up the FREE newspaper that comes out every week there called The Hartford Advocate. In the back section is a page called the back room. There you will find all kinds of ads for company. My personal favorite is Dee with the 40DDD. Highly recommend her. She is personable and does not rush you like a lot of the others in the paper do and also whom are young. She is in her late 30's and knows how to relax a person especially when I'm sure you all know this, of being nervous.I now go out of my way to see here when there.And she always finds time for me knowing the distance I've traveled.
Now I just got back from a trip there and there is now another person in there named Dee. She is not the one to see. The one with the natural 40DDD's comfy incall is the girl. Don't let the other one fool you. She can try but don't fall for it.
Talk to you all soon,
Scotty
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Rainbow Massage, Flamingo at Cameron west of the Strip, is a crap shoot. I've been there five times over the past couple of years. Each time I received a really pleasant massage after a table shower. Three times, I received extras. Twice, I didn't. I even asked for it once and was firmly yet politely told "no".
They're open until 3 am and offer table showers, unlike most "therapeutic" massage places and more like AMPs. I like Rainbow as it's near my office, it's reasonable especially when I do get extras and they have both Asians and non-Asian masseuses. The Asian masseuses there seem more likely to offer extras.
L V Whitey
08-18-04, 17:50
Hey Phat Gman,
Sounds like you might need a faster car. You are getting beaten to the punch every chance you have!
LVW
Here is a link to vegas convention bureau. Put in the dates and it will tell you the groups and how many people are coming to town.
http://www.lasvegas24hours.com/finder/eventshow/meetings
Does anybody know of a site that lists ALL of the upcoming Conventions in Las Vegas throughout the year with information on the approximate number of people that attend each one? There must be a thousand conventions I'm sure, but it's nice to know beforehand when planning a trip to Vegas. I'd like to avoid the big ones if possible. Vegas is always a better vacation spot for the average visitor when dealing with fewer tourists.
Thanks in advance.
Vanderley,
For convention info and other key dates in Las Vegas check out the Las Vegas Advisor site:
http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/vacationplanner-keydates.cfm
V.
There will be a Automotive Dealer Convention at the Mandalay Bay on last week of September 27, to 9. Lots of dealers with big bucks.
Member #1620
08-19-04, 07:19
Hey there Viva Scotty. Thanks for the info but, really, who the f**k is going to Hartford. Your post is out of section. If I'm going to travel 3000 miles, that's about the last place I'm going.
Anyways, last night I spotted a BSW (at least I think so) on D.I. just west of Arville. She had that look, she had no purse and didn't seem to have any other reason for aimlessly walking around (I just watched for a few minutes). She eventually walked to the 7-11 and grabbed the phone (I left).
Tonight, I spot a very attractive WSW right by the same spot! I drove almost all the way to Decatur (heading west) when I thought to myself I don't want to pick up any more SG's (damn it's hard to resist) but curiosity got the best of me and I turned around only to see her jump in an off white SUV (maybe a 4-runner). WOW! This is NOT a place I have seen sw's in the past. Perhaps a relocation from Trop/Industrial? Only the third time (once about 2 months ago but didn't think anything of it) that I have seen any potential here in the nearly 20 years I have been in Las Vegas. Just thought I'd share the info.
1620
L V Whitey,
Maybe. Or I should just go four wheeling with the rental. That one of the troubles that I find with Boulder Hwy is that you can't just make a u turn unless you go four wheeling on those rocks they have on the median. You need to go down a ways before you can make a turn.
Hey 1620 - wasn't there just some sort of a deal with a cabbie getting robbed or beaten or some other news worthy event in that area?
OK gents heres my Vegas report I met a nice girl at the Rio over the weekend .She said she was a local and had just broken up with her boyfriend , so she was out gambling to try to forget him. Well a few drinks later we went to my room . As soon as we entered my room she made a comment that she usually doesnt go to guys rooms for less than $300.00 So I say huh? I'm a nice guy , are you a hooker? She says umm no , but guys usually give her $300.00 to go to their room with them. I tell her I dont pay for sex , and i'm sorry about her boyfriend. I tell her that he must have been a dumbass because she is very attractive . So with a little flattery , commiseration and persuasion I get a BBBJ and bareback sex for about 1/2 hr . Then we go back gambling and I win 200 playing 10 blackjack in about 1 hr . She wins about 100, gives me a kiss goodbye and slips off into the night. Her name was Skyla or Skylar? 29 great body , boobs , tight ass , no stretch marks , but a nice tattoo on the small of her back. So , next time you guys are mongering, before you succomb to 300 pussy, try a little flattery. If that fails ten barter. Why pay for premium when you can get it for free. Stay safe happy hunting.
Member #1620
08-20-04, 08:32
Two comments. First I must comment to Mr. No Cyber. You concluded your report with "stay safe happy hunting" but admitted to having bare back sex. I can understand the bbbj, but I guess either you don't care about HIV or already have it. If the girl has it, she probably won't tell you. Or, your story is complete bullshit. I'm sorry to take a mean shot at you, but really, why don't you think with the big head just a little bit.
Second, to Cienega32, I'm not sure of any recent events. Unless I hear about it through the grapevine, I don't watch the news nor read the paper. There are constantly cabbies getting ripped off and sometimes beaten. I almost became a cabbie once. I went to the Taxicab Authority for the class you must take to get your taxi license. They actually showed pictures of mangled cab drivers after they were shot, stabbed, or strangled in a robbery which got me to think. It's the most dangerous profession for getting robbed (convenience store clerk is second). I never drove a cab needless to say. Sorry off the subject, but thought it was interesting.
1620
L V Whitey
08-20-04, 16:59
Hey Phatt,
Do NOT 4 wheel the rocks dude. I was just joshin' ya a bit. That area is LE central. They would love to spot a hobbiest 4 wheelin in the median (especially after a few cocktails). Boulder Highway is a pretty tough spot to turn around if you miss em on the first pass. Even if you do the U turn legal you can raise the ire of your local LE officer. Cruisin' in this town is risky business. I did have some luck recently in an area that has been pretty dry though. I will say it is in North LV. If you want particulars. PM me. Be safe out there.
LVW
That's what I'm talking about Cyber! Sex for Free.99
I have a nice one here that I charmed with my southern charm a few months ago and she is loving me now. I've been here for 2.5 weeks and i'm tapping it about every other day.
Hardly have time to monger here in Vegas, cause free poontaine from a lovely 8.5 possibly former CW (now that she met me) is just awesome. Heck, she calls me everyday!
Plan on going out today....
Chicagomax
08-20-04, 21:24
Part 1
Finally I have time to leave my Vegas report. I spent a week in Vegas on business. A week having lots of great sex. the gambling as awesome as ever even if I did drop 2k during the week,
For those of you who have read the posts about Molly from St Louis, well they are mostly true. I have known her for quite some time and saw her many times outside of her work enviroment.
She is very attractive and has some nice d cup enhanced boobs. Her ass is a little flat but I can over look that. She does give a great topless massage and ends with a nice handshake. If you are lucky and she find you attractive you will be able to get more.
If she does not consider someone she can date the best you will probably get is a handshake and maybe some boob and lip action. But that is good to as she wants her clients to be happy.
If she finds you attarctive then you will know that more is available. The second time I saw her in St Louis she gave me some excellent head. It progessed from there. Pretty soon I was able to get her legs over her head.
She loves to have in pussy eaten and moans and squirms like a total nympho. She loves a good hard fucking especially when you get on top and hold her down and do it to her real hard.
She is a real sweetheart and loves to have sex with very attractice guys.
I saw her once for business and twice as friends. Each time I had some great sex with her and each time we wore each other out. She hung out with me the first weekend I was there at the MGM.
She has hooked up with some dude out there who is paying some of her bills in return for some side action. But it is not enough so she is still doing the massage thing. Give her a call if you go to Vegas.
Chicagomax
08-20-04, 21:35
Part 2
I had heard that the bridge between the MGM and the Trop was a great place to find some nice trim. So the first Sunday I was there I headed over there about 1 am. There was trim there but nothing worth taking back to my room. I was really disappointed.
So I headed back into the casino to do some more gambling.
About an hour later I see a big breasted honey walking through the casino. She makes lingering eye contact with me so I decide to go talk to her. She is about 5-11 with long blonde stripper hair and weighs arond 120 with huge dd boobs. She tells me her name is Debbie and she is looking for some fun. I invite to gamble with me for a while and she accepts.
We go back to the BJ table and I give her a couple of hundred in chips and she gives me a nice kiss. We order drinks and sit there for about an hour losing our money. This whole time she is flirting with me and getting very close. Making sure I can see down her dress.
Towards the end she whispers in my ear that she would like to go up stairs to my room for a nitecap, while rubbing my already stiff cock.
We head upstairs to my room and she is alll over me.. Kissing me and rubbing her huge tits all over me and rubbing her legs on me like a cricket.
When we get to the room she heads into the bathroom and I make us more drinks. She comes out in a MGM robe and it is slightly open. We drink our drinks and beofre I know it she is on her knees taking care of little Elvis. This chick was great at giving head and really went to town on me.
We ended up doing it in many posistions and I had at least two pops before we both fell asleep. Sometime later in the night she wakes up and starts taking care of Elvis again. She got me off one more time before she said she had to go.
She then tells me I owe her 500 and I can pay her now and she will leave. Sorry honey you never mentioned anything about any cash. She got a little mad but I offered her 300 and she thought that was ok. She gave me a big kiss and split. Well worth the cash and my Elvis was tamed at least for the next few hours.
I will post more later. This was just the first two days.
Well Here goes my first report. I have been going to Vegas about twice a year for the last 3 years. Your reports in this forum have been extremely helpful and usually right on the money. I wanted to share with you all my latest experience.
I was in Vegas on July 26-27 and decided on last night to search area around Wild Wild West. I decided to go inside on a whim and see if anything happening. There was an attractive Blonde 26-32 and stacked at BJ table. I sat next to her and played while she relayed her gambling woes and how she needed to win so she could continue gambling. She always enthusiastically reached over and touched me when I won, just a pat on the arm. She was very friendly and I could tell was probably cg.
I continued playing as she went to bar and played video poker. A few ticks later, I followed and sat next to her and played. After about 10-15 min. of small talk I popped the question as to her willingness to escort me back to a room.
She said she usually asks for 5 bills, but because I was so nice she would do 3. I countered with 1.5 and she said no FS but could work something out. I got a room for under 30 and she was a GFE. Her name is Dawn and she usually hangs out at Rio. She said LE had increased there lately and just wanted to play video poker and hang out at WWW.
I am sure glad it worked out. She recommended not to ever talk price before going back to room, says it makes girls skittish but it seems to me you have to have an idea if your gonna be able to come up with a happy medium.
Bye all,
Sticks
TucsonChief
08-22-04, 21:14
Got scammed hard in vegas at hot bodies spa 3131 south industrial next to can-cans
Went by a place near can-cans on industrial, was very trashed and paid 40 to get inside. Shoulda realized then that something was up. But was drunk and horny so you know how that is. Inside the guy says the fee is 600 for an hour and no prostitution is involved, and the hottie next to me rubs her leg up on mine while he's saying it. I took it as a hint that he wasn't truthful or at least correct. So my dumbass says ok and pays 600 and on top of it she demands I give the guy 60 for a tip. so 700 so far. I see another guy hitting up the atm so I figure hes having a good time with his chick. go to a back room and I get rubbed down for 20 minutes in the same spots. I know this isn't going anywhere and am starting to get pissed. after 35 min I flat out ask if anything more is going to happen and she keeps going on and on about relaxation. I try to walk out and she convinces me to do the last 10 and I'm thinkin just maybe something will happen. NOTHING. not even close. out 700 bucks. I coulda blown that 1000 better ways in that town. So advice is dont go to that place and spread the word that they are a scam.
TucsonChief
08-22-04, 21:25
This is exactly what happened, I ran a search for the place. Except the bouncer didn't interfere, he let the girl massage my back for the full hour. whoo hooo. Man did I feel stupid after. What a scam.
"A revealing memo appears this week on the cabbie website. The writer, identified as "FN Cabbie" gives us this insight into what the cab driving profession has degraded into: "How many drivers actually drop off at Hot Bodies, knowing that it's a 'clip joint?' For those that don't know, the term clip joint stems from the fact that they basically take the customers money and 'toss' them out the back door. For instance, customer Bob goes into Hot Bodies. Bob wants to see a girl, so he pays about $140 to go into a room with a 'clothed' woman to do some 'exercises.' Mind you, it's a 'health' club. Now, Bob is enticed by the girl (Editor's note: “hyenas” would be a more appropriate description of these females) to go 'further' in their work out session. She tells Bob its going to be X amount of dollars to go 'all the way' with her. Bob agrees, gives the girl his credit card. While Bob waits in his room, the girl swipes his card for the agreed price. She comes back to the room to get Bob to sign for it, just so they can make sure they get 'their' money. The girl then leaves and she says she's going to slip into something more comfortable. Shortly after the girl has left, 'Big Bouncer' enters Bob's room and tells him that his time is up. Bob is naturally upset because he paid for something he didn't get. Big Bouncer replies, 'Sir, don't you know prostitution is illegal in Clark County.' Then out the door Bob goes. What's Bob to do? Does he tell the Better Business Bureau? Does he call the cops? What can the cops do? Bob knows it's illegal to pay for sex in Clark County. If he tells the cop that he tried paying for sex and got swindled, the cop will just laugh in his face. How does Hot Bodies stay in business you might ask? Well, technically they aren't breaking the law. They aren't selling sex, and there is no way to prove that Bob didn't get exactly what he paid for, a nice weightlifting session with a woman fully clothed for, $800. She must be some trainer!" "
TucsonChief,
Sorry to hear about your experience at HOT BODIES. It's actually quite well-known about the place being a big-time clip joint. The cabbies get paid x amount of dollars for every clueless tourist flying into Vegas they drop off at the club. Word of caution: Do your own research and never, ever, trust a cabbie. Well, you already know that.
Avoid CAN CAN ROOM at all costs as well. They run the same kind of scam, but in a more 'strip club' style environment. Private dances with hinting of 'extras'. I don't know if it's the same owners, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was.
These f_cked up clubs all stay in business because, first, like you said, they aren't breaking the law. And second, there are millions of tourists each MONTH coming to Vegas for the first time in their lives. Screw one tourist, then screw another, and another, and another. They'll never get repeat business from the same customer twice, but so what? That doesn't matter to them cause there's more fish flowing into their pond each and every day.
I think Jackson does a wonderful service for all of us here, the information found in the forum is priceless. I think it'll be a great idea to make an addition to the forum on CLIP JOINTS to expose these f_cked up clubs in neon lights for the thousands of readers here to see.
With that said, I just returned from a trip to Vegas myself. I've recently read here that there's quite a bit of action on the bridges in the intersection of the MGM Tropicana NYNY and couldn't wait to go check it out. After a decent romp at Crazy Horse Too, I got my hand stamped and decided to take a break at around 1AM to see what the 'bridges' had to offer. Needless to say I was extremely disappointed. I returned to the 'bridges' a total of 5 times during my trip on different nights, and not once did a see a CG worth taking to my room. Maybe I wasn't drunk enough, or maybe the top-notch CH2 strippers were still floating in my head at the time. Either way, three of those five times I ended up driving back to CH2 to get jacked off by a buxom hottie on the couch (over my pants of course). I'd much prefer that over the scary looking things I saw over the intersection.
I did however find some good action in the casinos in which I'll write more later.
Part 2 coming up soon.
Member #1620
08-23-04, 03:31
Damn, TusconChief, I'm sorry you had to take such a hit for the team. I was scammed by a SW once a long time ago when I was foolish and naive, but it only cost me $40 and it was well worth the lesson IMHO.
I was wondering for your sake and the sake of others, if there is a way to try to put this place under. After all, they totally screwed you out of a lot of money (even though you really can't prove anything as stated in your earlier post). For $700 you could have done it legally at the Chicken Ranch or wherever. I'm not thinking in terms of violence although a truck full of C-4 parked right in front of their building does sound like justice. I'm thinking maybe like in terms of...well I really don't know. Maybe some suggestions. I'm not at all against a legitimate massage but that goes for $50-$70 per hour.
On another note, as stated earlier in one of my posts, I almost became a cabbie. A lot of these places including almost all strip clubs will pay the cab driver a fee (usually the amount of the cover, tends to be $10-$20) for each person they bring to the club. If this place said to the cabbie that they would give them, say $25 per person (I really don't know about this place) then there is no question in my mind they would continue taking people their even if they knew it was a scam. 99% of all cabbies are money hungry in addition to trying to make a living and will probably just play dumb.
1620
P.S. TusconChief: your name indicates that maybe you attended University of Arizona. That would explain a little, after all that's like going to high school twice (LOL)
Hey dere Mongerers,
I took a trip from Orange County this past weekend to Mexico with a detour thru Las vegas lol. I usually stay downtown because I don't want to be tripping over kids and strollers while I'm gambling, drinking, and staring at sleazy women.
While my old lady hangs out to drink, gamble, and smoke (and wants me to be not bothering her while she's doing it), I usually head on over to the Girls of Glitter Gulch. Alot of guys talk shit on this place, but I have always had a good time here. There's no cover charge but you have to buy two drinks once you're in (which I'm gonna buy anyway), and the girls there are usually rated 6-8's. But this time, geez. The pressure these chicks were putting on me for laps were tremendous. I refuse to pay more than $25 for a lap, with maybe a $5 tip (Vegas prices, at home the price is $20). I had two dances from dancers who rated maybe a 7 each, both with the presonality of a rock and had to talk them both down in price to $25 each They both gave so-so laps.
Finally, a dancer with the most perfect body and smile came up to me. I couldn't resist and I'm glad I didn't. She was smart, beautiful, talkative and did not want every last cent in my pocket. She has a lot going for her. Not only does she dance, she's also a persaonal trainer and a high-priced massuese. We talked for about an hour before I took a lap from her, and it was great. Only $25, but I did tip her $10 since she sat there for so long. She didn't even want the drink I offered her, since the club selld the dancers $1 drinks and she was drinking water anyway. "Don't waste your money," she said.
Anyway, I had to go eat so I said goodbye. After a $.99 hot dog and some slots, I went back. The friendly dance was nowhere to be seen, so another, an older blonde that I'd seen there before latched on to me. Anyway, she started her spiel and I finally gave in since I was buzzed and horny. We sat at a booth and talked for a couple songs and then she gave me a so-so dance. After that, she wanted $90! I told her no way, that it wasn't discussed and that she wasn't getting it. I ended up giving her $60 and she had the nerve to ask for a tip. I told her no way. She tried to make up for it by hanging out and wanting to converse but I was done with her and walked away.
I went back to the stage (I like the stage) and soon the smart dancer showed up again, and I was happy because that keeps the vultures off me. She sat and hung on me awhile, then I had a last lap from her because she was getting ready to bail. And it was great again! She gave me a business card to call her next time I'm in town. The card only has her business name on it though, not her personal name. You can't miss her though. She'll have the best body in the house.
Now, off to Mexico!
I went to VIP Massage last night for the second time. It's located at Valley View and Sirius, not too far from Jaguar's. I think this is the only massage parlor in town that offers FS, though I didn't opt for it. The first time I went, the masseuse was a very attractive blonde, I think named Shauna. This time, the masseuse was an attractive brunette named Nicki. She looked a little Asian at first, though she almost sounded Eastern European. I opted for a nude HJ. Both of us were nude, and she had a great body. This is my favorite MP in Las Vegas. I tend to spend a little more here than at other places, but it seems worth it.
Aloha gang,
Any of you have any information on Club de Soleil? Both the hotel as well as mongering opportunities in and around it.
Mahalo,
S
I have been walking the strip between trop and flamingo the last few days ( I work nearby), and it has been packed with girls between 530am and 7am (especially Sat and Sun). I decided to stop and talk to a couple just to see what the rates were. Most started around $$$$, but when they found out I was local, one of two things happened 1)they were no longer interested or 2) the price could come down to $$ or $.5. I didn't partake, because I haven't had the time, but I will as soon as I get the chance. The most action seemed to be in front of the Aladdin and Bally's. I wanted to talk to a decent looking couple of middle eastern looking girls, but they were snatched up before I got the chance.
I didn't realize the strip was that hot. I thought LE would be all over. Guys, take the time to park (its free) and walk a little. Which brings me to one complaint. Why do people think they can stop dead in the middle of the strip and block traffic to pick up girls. I saw this happen at least 4 times, and never did the girls get in. Common sense should tell you that it only attracts LE when you do that, and these guys were all local.
TucsonChief,
Sorry to hear you got scammed. I got scammed exactly the same way during my first trip to Las Vegas at a place on Industrial behind the Stardust back in 1990. These places have been scamming tourists on Industrial for at least 20 years, and probably longer. The difference is that in 1990 there was no Internet as we know it today. Live and learn, and do your homework in advance.
Better luck next time,
V.
Travel Guy
08-24-04, 08:06
Member 1620 why do people like you have to flame someone when they give good information on this board.
Member 1620 wrote.
P.S. TusconChief: your name indicates that maybe you attended University of Arizona. That would explain a little, after all that's like going to high school twice (LOL)
Living in LV I have tried quite a few of the AMPS around town. Most offer the same or similar services. From earlier posts I read that the VIP offers a little more. I haven't tried them yet. For my money I like the one called Hong Yun on W.Sahara between Arville and Decatur. It's in a U shaped shopping center directly accross from the TGIF restaurant. The mamasan named Nancy is not the best looking lady but OK. While still on your stomach she has a touch that can make you ready to blow as soon as the flip.
Great touch if you'll pardon the pun
Late Night
08-24-04, 17:14
TucsonChief,
For $300 you can have the hottest sexiest girl of your choice for the best fuck in most casinos my friend. I don't know why someone would give $600 to a scumbag running such a scam?
Sticks,
I just read your report and would have to disagree with the CG concerning not mentioning price until up in the room. While, I realize you can do it either way, I prefer to always negotiate before going up to the room in Vegas for the following reasons.
Cg's typically up their ante once in the room if price hasn't been discussed prior. They know in the casino you can just walk over to the next girl and find out her price. By negotiating before the trip upstairs she will usually be more flexiable with her price and try and finish the deal.
I have tried both ways in the past and feal the $ negotiation first is the better option.
Visited LV last week and went to Red Rooster. I had been there before to see what goes on, and have always wondered why more wasn't written about the RR. First night, a Tuesday was a bust. On Thursday, things were much better. After an hour of standing around and watching, one girl about 40 took off her top and was sitting in the lounge. We started talking and touching. After a bit another man and his wife came over and sat down. The first girl started rubbing the man and then took out his dick and started sucking it. There was lots of breast action and nipples and finger fucking going on. I didn't want more than this, but it was available.
I am sure that it is hit or miss during the week, but the action really picks up on the weekend. I would like to hear from some of the locals as to why the Red Rooster isn't discussed much here.
Boatload
Is it possible to contact your credit card company to get a refund?
TucsonChief
08-25-04, 19:59
Guys, I was fucking trashed. When you're drunk and have never been scammed before you're an easy target.
Member #1620
08-26-04, 07:29
Hey Travel Guy, maybe you can lighten up a little or loosen up your shorts a little or do whatever it takes to realize that I'm not flaming ANYTHING OR ANYONE. I'm just having fun and busting his chops a little in good taste (as LOL indicates). My reports are generally very informative, too. If I see something or know something, I share. End of story. Let's get back to what we all like to do best and for TusconChief, I'm sure a lesson learned. That's all.
1620
Green_Thumb
08-27-04, 10:37
Ordering To Go
Hey Guys.
How much of a problem is it finding a girl let's say at Caesar's or Alladin and then talking her into cabbing it back to your room at the StarDust or something. Are they generally open to that or do they only stay close to where they are working? Any past experiences would be helpful.
Thanks.
Part 2:
So I stayed at the Sahara this trip, and absolutely no CGs at all at the bar as usual. I don't think I ever remember seeing any girls at Sahara ever -- I always stay at Sahara just because I have/and get comps there. I don't care to play any slots as far as gambling goes, so I wouldn't know if there were any girls walking around the machines either. Maybe somebody else can shed some light on this one.
I found a good number of girls working over at the Flamingo the first night. There was a group of three, all checking back with each other every half hour or so. All three were hispanic-looking, relatively attractive. I just sat at the tables while watching the activity at the bar. I saw some old guys approach them and get rejected. I don't know if this was because the guys didn't have enough money or the girls were just plain picky, because they were obviously working girls. I went and sat by them a few seats down and made eye contact. I ended up talking with one of the girls named 'Lisa' for nearly an hour, bought her a few drinks, and made the negociation. 2.5 for an hour. We decided to take a cabbie to the nearby motel she knew of and had an 'ok' time. She wasn't the best in the sack, a little less than mechanic, but she did stay the hour and had a great personality overall that made it totally worth it. Large natural breasts also helped. She said she's at the Flamingo at least three nights a week on average, but does move around from casino to casino to avoid trouble.
Spent the next few hours on the tables coming out on top by about 3 bills. Decided to head to CH2 to get drunk and finish the night. The end of Day1.
"Inspired" by reading some of the reports here, I visited two more AMPs here that I'd never been to. The first was Ocean Spa at Flamingo and Jones. I'd seen it before, but assumed it was a "day spa". It's next door to a great Italian restaurant I often eat at. If you ever pay Ocean Spa a visit at night, dine next door and make sure you order the warm chocolate cake. You have to order it when you order your entree as it's cooking while you're eating. I think it's the best dish in Las Vegas, almost as good as sex, but I digress.
At Ocean Spa, I paid $110 for an hour massage with body scrub. As the scrub room was taken, the massage would happen first and the scrub at the end. I was given a key to a locker, showered and was massaged by an older but attractive masseuse named Ann. Her massage was excellent. It was a little harder than I like, but I was a limp noodle at the end. She brushed against my privates, so not all of me was a limp noodle. After some negotiation I paid $70 for an HJ. Her experience was evident as she knew how to do it. Then I went for the body scrub. I was expecting just a table shower, but this was more of a scrub with maybe a sea salt solution. It took a lot longer than a table shower. She rinsed me off and I took a separate shower. I will definitely return to Ocean Spa from time to time.
A few nights later I tried to go to Hun Yun massage on Sahara, but they were closed for some reason. There was another one very close to it, so I tried it. Its name was Lotus Flower Massage, but the sign only had a flashy neon "MASSAGE" sign. Anyway, I walked in and there was only one masseuse there. She may have been the owner. There were no customers there, but two stopped by during my session. I paid $100 for a table shower and hour massage. The table shower was very good. My privates were so clean you could have eaten your lunch off of them. She then brought me to the massage room. The massage was light and felt very good. My only gripe was that it was very short, maybe ten minutes top before negotiating for extras. I paid $80 for a HJ. It was a nice experience overall.
Green Thumb....
It is easier to get the girl to go to your room if you are nearby. Might I suggest Imperial Palace as a cheap alternative right on the strip.
It seems that the easiest casinos to pick up at are(in order):
Mirage
MGM
Luxor
Alladin
Also Bellagio, but girls there want a ton of money.
Out of those, Luxor is generally cheapest.
That said, there are quite a few girls that will be willing to go anywhere you want if you have enough money. I'm pretty sure no one is turning down $300 for an hour of work or so.
Finally got the chance to do some mongering away from my freebie.
Went down Boulder Hwy from Charleston to Desert Inn. The number of girls are usually low, but within a minute and a few loops it can change. So I was on my way back towards Charleston when I see a really nice looking SW coming up near the Castaway hotel/casino. I immediately pulled over and asked did she need a ride. She said "Sure" and hopped in. Started with some small talk...her name is Nicole really really nice. She is from Denver and dances at Olympic Gardens. Was on Boulder because a friend didn't pick her up and was walking back.
Well after all the small talk, we agreed do a BJ for two Jacksons. She was the nicest girl I've picked up besides my freebee. Nice and slow CBJ. Very clean and sterile...was glad I had sanitizer ( she had some too). Had on a nice thong that was so sexy on her. I feeled her up from **** to ass. Nice nice smell, no stink at all (the way it should be). Dropped her off at Albertson on Bruce.
Got her number but of course it was temporarily disconnected.
AMP adventure:
When to check out Hong Yun but the only girl working was busy. she said come back in 40 minutes. Nice lil thick girl, reminded me of our southern cornbread fed girls with that thickness. Well I was ready to go then, so I drove just a half block down to the next shopping center to check out the place labled "Massage". Only one girl, cute...that's all. Well got the half hour and when time for release she motioned the hand. I said yes...and told her to grab my shirt. I had only $30. She was like $60..I was like that's all I got . She agreed and told me the ususal spill..."next time....."
I was thinking..." These Vegas AMP girls must be muth@@@$%%% crazy if i'm going to pay $60 for a freaking HJ." We southern boys don't do that bull.
These Vegas girls get away with that $60 charge. Believe me they will take much less.
Went to Vegas for the weekend. I did not partake in anything, but did have some sights.
Was walking in to the luxor on Saturday night and group of about 6 girls were being escorted out of the hotel by Metro. I asked the security guard and he said that they were indeed working girls.
Atleast three of the girls were atleast an 8. Too bad they were hauled away in a Metro van.
Later that night I was sitting at the Mandalay bay bar and this girl starts up a conversation with me. She was about a 7 with a piercing in her eyebrow. Got past were are you from line when a drunk old guy butted in and started talking to her. Very rude, so I just left. Next was sitting at the luxor bar across from the nightclub RA with a buddy of mine when another brunette about 5'10 starts talking. I didn't have much money since I lost it on Black Jack and the Let it ride tables that night so it was a no go.
So it could've been a productive night if I had the funds and was alone.
Muff Eater
08-31-04, 04:08
Greetings all! I had a chance to hook up with Molly this weekend and had a great relaxing time with her. She does incall, so I went to her place. Right away there was a very comfortable feeling. She's in her mid-forties but in great shape, very attractive and takes care of herself. She gave me a pretty good back and shoulder massage and worked her way down to my feet, with frequent touching/rubbing of the balls. She spent the full hour massaging and rubbing her large breasts against my back. Then she'd let her hair brush lightly against my skin. Very relaxing and sensual! She's a good conversationalist too! After the hour, I flipped over and Mr. Happy got the attention he was craving. If you're looking for nice, medium, relaxing massage, good company and a happy ending, you've got to get together with Molly. Her price has gone up a little to put her in line with the competition, but is well worth it!
ME
Member #1620
08-31-04, 07:50
Hey Scrodie,
Sounds like you had a good time at both places, but $180 total damage for just a HJ is just too much unless you don't care. There are better deals out there. Just got to keep looking and negotiating.
1620
Chicagomax
08-31-04, 11:54
So Tuesday night after gambling and drinking all day I headed for the bridge between the MGM and the Trop. I noticed right away a couple of young hotties. They smiled at me so I took the signal and walked over to them.
They said they were from LA and in twon for a week to have some fun and to make some money for college tution. Yea right. They said they were 21 and were looking for a date. I suggested a drink in the MGM bar and they agreed, They were both carded and served so I felt better knowing they were legal(I hoped their id was legal too)
After some small talk and a couple of drinks we head to my room. They both jumped on the bath and kissed a little, Great start. They wanted a thousand for one hour and I offered 400. They said no way and I told them thanks anyway and started for the door to show them out.
They gave in and the fun began. One of these gals was about 5-2 very slender and with real nice b cup perky boobs and a killer butt. The other was blonde with an enhanced d rack and no butt. Oh well...
They got undressed hopped in to bed and started working my little Elvis. During that hour they gave me some nice CBJTC and worked on each other some. When I was ready again I had them both bend over and I took them one at a time from behind. That was fun and they seemed to dig it some too.
All in all I had a great time.
Hello all,
Has anyone heard about the Glory Hole in vegas. Any info would be appreciated. PM me if you dont want to post it here.
Will appreciate any kinda info,
Thx.
Viva Scotty
09-01-04, 10:38
Hello Everyone,
I have a question? Is it common that when you are a newby to the Forum and make your first post that you are a target for insults?
Yes Memeber # 1620, if that is the number not a name that you go by? I am talking about you.
As you so privately emailed and made obvious to me that I am a newby. Yes I am. OBVIOUSLY you can tell that by my posts as you also thru in my face.
You're right, I don't know anything about the board.Not yet.But as I'm sure you were once NEWBY, You have to learn. RIGHT? But I guess not from people like you who aren't kind enough to help others just insult.
Also I find it strange that YOU are the ONLY person who gave me ANY feedback on my post.
Do you really know who you are communicating with on here? No, you don't do you?
There is a reason on my end I don't go in and post a lot. But then again I am a NEWBY aren't I?
P.S. Does anyone know if there is a way to block someone from PMing or emailing you?Thanks for your attention and help on this.
VivaScotty
Viva Scotty
09-01-04, 22:18
Oh Yes,
And by the way Memeber #1620. If as you say my post is in the wrong area then why was it listed? Jackson thought it was an OK post or he wouldn't of put it on. You're the only one that seems bothered by it.
So I guess this makes you the WSG Forum Post Police? Telling people where they should and should not post?
I'm confused. This is a Forum for info is it not? Can someone please tell me otherwise? Bet I don't get one person telling me it isn't here for that reason. Except you. You already did tell me in so many words didn't you?
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Here are a couple more massage reports. I was in the mood for a real massage, having been working like a dog lately. I went to Dreamweaver Massage on Flamingo at Arville. I had been there a couple of years ago and it was a "legit" massage place - a sheet was covering at least half of my body the entire time and the privates were never touched. The place has changed names and ownership since then, so hope springs eternal. When I entered, both the masseusse behind the desk and the one who massaged me were both wearing low cut tops showing cleavage, so my hopes were up. These were false hopes, though as all I got was a massage. The massage was quite nice, but it was asexual.
Later, I went to an AMP I had never been to. I think it was called Jade Garden. It was in Northwest Las Vegas, at the corner of Cheyenne and Rainbow. I paid $60 for a massage to an older masseusse who may have been the owner. She asked me what kind of massage I wanted and I said "soft". She gave an excellent very light massage. Before the flip, she rubbed my inner thighs and brushed against my privates a couple of times. After the flip, she lightly rubbed nearer and nearer to my privates and slowly began to give me a HJ, without ever asking for more money. She gave a great, teasing HJ. After the climax, she washed her hands and returned to massage my face and scalp. I tipped her as I left, though she never asked for a tip. I think this was the only time, at least in a long time, that I've gotten a HJ at a Las Vegas AMP without the requisite negotiation. Next time I'm in this part of town, I'll pay this place another visit.
Member #1620
09-02-04, 13:18
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Member #2330
09-05-04, 18:03
Long-time lurker with some recent info on a LV apartment incall. Saw a post a while back about this and so I picked up some of the local free magazines (LV Weekly and CityLife) and after only 2 calls I hit upon the asian papasan who provided directions to an apartment west of the strip. (Look for the ads with not-so-perfect grammar).
There were 3 girls to choose from and they rotate them out weekly so the selection should always be fresh. Yesterday there were 2 Thais and one Chinese. No rush, good conversation with all three; very friendly, great attitudes. I chose the Chinese girl and she told me she was from LA, living in Monterey Park (of course) and told me she works her regular day job and comes here from time to time to pursue her moonlighting career in massage therapy. She was 27, no kids, top-flight body. Oh, and actually, all three were 8's (at least). Would have chosen one of the Thai girls actually, but since I just got back from there I wanted a change of pace.
All in all, an excellent experience with of course, an excellent massage for 1.6. Paid the girl at the end with no papasan pressure, no clockwatching (1hr), no knocks on the door, etc. PM me if you want the digits.
Winzheng
Member #1620
09-06-04, 07:29
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Member 1620,
In my opinion, I didn't pay $180 "for just a HJ", as a good MP experience inlcudes more. I enjoy a good sensual, erotic massage, especially with a table shower or body scrub. I realize I could get cheaper play in Vegas, but that's really not what I'm after. One of the $180 experiences I wrote about before was worth every penny to me; the other was a little overpriced.
Pleasure Giveh
09-07-04, 13:01
I for one have gotten the idea that a couple of people on this board have problems with each other. I agree that it posts should be in the area that they are about but is it worth starting World War III over? I don't think so.
How about if we all try to get along, write and read about what we are all here for instead of fighting amongst ourselves. How about we all go out and get a woman and forget about the fighting. Then we can come back to the board and post about our experiences.
Make Love not War.
Long Duck Dong II
09-07-04, 13:31
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Desert Dude
09-07-04, 15:52
So, there I was, in Vegas for another weekend of the downtown stroll. On the way in Friday, got a call from former Trop and Industrial sg 'Sunshine'. Hadn't seen her for awhile, she's gone a little downhill, but oral skills still top notch for 25. Staying at the Sportsman's Lodge on Trop/Boulder now. Then to Fremont, where I ended up having one too many, but one was a lot, as the Barrick properties (Western, Gold Spike, etc) raised the prices for the weekend. So, my usual 40 oz. draft Bud Light went up to....$3!! Being the cheapskate I'm proud to be, I stuck with the $2 40's, which were Icehouse. Forgot that 4 of those is different than 4 Bud Lights.
So, with a big buzz on, ran into two black gals. After some small talk, got the taller one back to the room. Almost a full hour of many many positions...30. Cool with me. The next morning, woke up ready to rock. Walked back and forth for like 2 hours! Usually did better than that in the mornings. Then ran into black dude/pimp that I'd met before. He said he'd round one up, and he did. Forgot her name, have her number in the car, pm if interested. 37, skinny, wsw, good oral, 20. Vicki or something. Next time, if I'm striking out, may just take a chance and chat up the black dudes that are always out, and let them do the legwork! Oh, and one other thing, the time between sunset and dark is a great time to be on the lookout. Suns down, it's cooler, but not yet dark and full of LE.
Party on!
First time mongering in Vegas and I did alright for myself. I found myself bored Monday night around 4am, so I left the buds to gamble and I took a cruise. Not too sure about Vegas cruising, after all the negative post about Vegas. So I just started driving.
Not more than 5 minutes later, to my suprise, I hit a little pocket of SW's. 4 WSW, 2 LSW, and 5 BSW all in a little stretch in front of Harrah's. All 7's and up. No place to pick them up in a car, so I had to park and take one by foot. Got out in front of the hotel just in time. Smoking hot WSW walks by and I say "Hi". Little chit chat and she was back in my car. She said she had a motel, but I declined. Sadly I was staying at a friend's house and could not take her there.
5'4, 110#, 29 yrs old, blond and decent rack. Originally had hoped that I could negotiate a 1.00 FS, but she wouldn't budge from 3.00. Being use to my .80 FS in Cali, I wasn't going to budge either. But needing some relief we decided on a 1.00 CBJ. Girl had amazing talent and was very friendly. Either way I would have spent that much at the nudie bar for a few dances. All in all good time. But I'll keep my mongering in Cali from now on.
Member #1620
09-08-04, 08:29
Alright folks, I apologize (Long Duck Dong II and Pleasure Giveh and everyone else) for some outbursts and am ready to put the whole Viva Scotty dork thing behind. I just tried to make a simple point as LDD II seems to agree with the problem of out of section posts and received 9 pm's from this dope. This will be the last time I mention it, I promise. His pm has been disabled so who cares, after all, he's contributed 4 useless posts and over twice as many useless pm's to me. When there is something to report, I come clean, as you all can see. Besides these few issues with VS, all of my posts contain info about MONGERING. When I was in L.A., I posted in Santa Monica for the AMP I visited. When I see action here, you'll all be the first...make that second to know.
To Scrodie, I am certainly not telling you that you were had, after all, YMMV, and, YMMV (Your Money Must Value). If you had a good time and felt it was worth it, then Amen brother. I just personally feel that FS is in order for that price (guess I'm just used to the So Cal AMP's).
Anyways, enough rambling. Back to the biatches.
1620
Does anyone have any suggestions for an escort, preferrably
independent, who is young with a good body and minimal attitude?
Thanks
I will be staying at Palace Station for a couple of nights next weekend - anything going on there or close by?
Viva Scotty
09-10-04, 11:41
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Survey Says
09-11-04, 02:53
Thanks to previous posts, I visited VIP on Thurs night. Was in Vegas for a seminar and met a friend who drove into town. I had Tammy, half Viet / half American girl, mid to late 20's, large natural D's. Paid for 1 hr/.70
After about 15-20 minutes into massage and small conversation about OC, Calif, Tammy asks if I've been there before. I told her yes, without hesitation and with confidence. She says when and I told her 6-9 months ago. She laughed and said I was full of shit, they've only been opened for 3 months. I said that I was referred by a friend whom had an excellent experience about a month ago. I explained that I didn't know with whom he shared the experience with. She asked what I was looking for and I answered with full service. Tammy said that in Vegas she normally gets $200, but would make an exception for me for $120...We finally agree on $100.
Started with cbj then finished cg. Normal TJ experience with better attitude and personality. I popped a little quick.
Afterwards, I meet up with my friend who was with a blonde American girl. The first and only I've seen in an AMP in Vegas. He was stung for $200, but loved every moment of it. He was sad to hear that I paid 1/2 the price, but I told him I'd make it up to him at one of my regular places in SoCal. I don't know if he visits the scenes.
The place is brand new and super clean. I asked Tammy and mamasan several questions while waiting for my friend to finish. The are open 7 days from 10a-3a and up to 5 girls at a time work there. On slower days, girls may leave and sometimes, girls don't even come back.
Member #1620
09-11-04, 09:26
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Viva Scotty
09-11-04, 13:39
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Lookin4luvin
09-12-04, 19:12
I saw an amazing BSW Sunday morning around 10 on Fremont who goes by the name of Candy. She said she was from Cali and that she was 22. At least an 8 or 9 in my book. She took me back to her place on Charleston and offered FS for .7 all I had was .4 so she accepted. She put the wraper on with her mouth and then we "snuggled." She has Malicious ***** tattooed over her breasts but she was the nicest girl. I hope to see her again.
Member #1620
09-13-04, 01:56
Thank you Jackson. I apologize again, but I really was trying to be done with this issue. I guess others just don't understand, like those with 7 posts and 9 pm's to me with NO mongering information whatsoever. I understand what this board is for. As I mentioned before, all of my posts refer to mongering in some way or another before this recent attack on me as I'm sure you can see. Again, thank you for putting an end to this at the right time. Now, back to the hoes.
1620
Time Around
09-13-04, 22:50
Member #1620, Jackson and Viva Scotty,
No, I have not ever posted on this board before; however, I have used information ont his board on several of my vacations.
Come on, you guys are fighting like little girls. A while back, a couple of idiots were fighting like this on the Corpus Christi, Texas board.
It helps NOTHING. Everyone on this board is in the same boat. We ALL participate in the same game.
I don't want to get on either of your bad sides, or anyone else's. However, cut the bullspit out.
With apology,
Time around
Well said Time Around. Take The gloves off guys, lets play nice.
I'm heading that way in October, staying at the nugget for 3 nights. Tryng to soke up the scene before hand. I do have an apointment with Jamie (Molly from St.louis) I'll post experience when it happens. I read where she raised her rates, any help on that guys.
Thanks,
Two Nutts
Normus Johnson
09-14-04, 13:19
Will be staying at the Mirage at the end of this month. Any suggestions?
Don't want to travel too far. Big convention across the street at the Venetian. I heard they were cracking down on the center bar at the Venetian.
Where are the stops wityhin the Mirage? Is there a walk bridge? this seems to be the new hang out.
Thanks,
Normus Johnson
Viva Scotty
09-14-04, 13:33
Hi Time Around,
So I take it travel like myself? The reason for my first post on 8/17 was for the sole purpose of those whom may travel. For some reason Memeber #1620 got a bug up his ass and decided to take it all on by himself to give me shit as you can see on his post on 8/19. And might I add HE is the ONLY ONE who has given me any crap about that first post .
Now being a newby....Wouldn't you want to make someone feel comfortable and welcome their comment?
NO. Not him. He decides to PM me and threaten me with sending me viruses to me email address. Guess you didn't get to read that one because that is when Jackson stepped in and deleted it. And probably for good cause. It is a Federal crime to threaten someone with sending them a virus.
Personally? I think this guy Memeber #1620 should of been bumped off along time ago. If you look at his other posts and comments to other people you will see how NICE,as he says,he is.
This guy has no reason to be on here. He obviosly is a lonely person with a lot of problems.
You don't threaten people with a virus and not get a response and that is when I decided to show the world what he is all about and Jackson took it off.
Sorry. Thought I had to give my side of the story that was all taken off. As his was too.
Happy Trails,
Viva Scotty
P.S. As in my post that was taken away it said if anyone would like to see proof of his threats I will be happy to email you them with hos name on them. Let me know.
Long Duck Dong II
09-14-04, 17:58
My lord Scotty & 1620. Just STFU, quit bickering, quit giving "your side of the story", quite defending yourselves, and just quit posting unless you have something worthwhile to post.
Anyways on to the HOs. Was in vegas 2 weeks ago. I hit Freemont from the experience past Bldr Hwy. It was dead as all could be. Except for LE. Lots of girls on the strip, but I find it uncomfortable hitting them up on the strip. But if you're looking for action, try the intersection of Trop and the Blvd. That's where I saw the most.
The Donger
Stroll Looker
09-14-04, 20:18
Went out cruising the Freemont Strip on Sept 11 saw the usual girls and pimps even saw a few gays working. Cruised Carson, Freemont and Ogden was about to give up after about 2 hours when I saw a short blond girl on Ogden and 10th. Her name is Michelle and she is about 5’0 and may be 90lbs soaking wet. She is young 23 and about a 9 on the scale. Blonde hair to her shoulders blue eyes and lovely face great teeth and not an ounce of fat on her body. Small breasts an A cup may be a small B cup but has that all American cheerleader look and a tattoo of a butterfly on her lower back. Ass was hard as a rock and was toned.
Had a ½ and ½ session for 40, great fuck and good head. GFE type experience and tried to kiss me when the date was over, that shocked me. Never complained or tried to up sell me, and a comfortable and unrushed service. She is looking for a few regulars and only comes out on the stroll on Fridays and Saturday. IMHO this girl is a gem, no contact number but said she would hook up with me on this Friday. Anyone interested in meeting her PM me and I’ll give what info I got on her. Will try to get more info or a contact number this Friday.
Normus,
You can just look around the bars at the Mirage and find the ladies. This is also true about several other casinos around the strip. Keep in mind negotiations are determined by supply and demand, especially during conventions.
Member #1620
09-15-04, 08:14
I think I saw the same girl Sroll Looker! Can't recall the EXACT location, but it was near the 7-11. I pulled in (7-11) because I don't like to pick up SW's in fear of LE, and waited to see if I could coax her over. She was scooped up quickly. You don't drive a midsized white car (unsure of make and model) do you? Nice catch at a great price. I think I'll stick with my favorite AMP.
1620
P.S. I see Viva Scotty is up to 11 posts with NO useful info. Like a bad cold that won't go away. You got your last word in (oooh) now STFU as several members have asked. No one cares about you either.
Winter Park FL
09-15-04, 15:53
I was In Vegas last weekend (9-9/9-11) and was staying at the Hilton. There is a lot of action at the star trek bar. I was with some business associates, so I did not get to partake. However, Two larger girls meduium looks and dark curly hair offered me a two for one special for 300, or one at a time for 150. There were several different girls there over the course of the weekend.
Also, if you go and dont see anything, sit down and talk to the bartenders, they were all in on it. One I believe was named Terry, He seemed very familiar with the operation.
happy trails!
Hey Vegas,
I am a Socal Monger but will be in Vegas for a conference in early November. I'll be at the Hilton unfortunatley. I have had a couple CG's at the Luxor and the Hard Rock but never heard of or saw any action at the Hilton. Is there a certain bar at the Hilton I should look in?
Thanks
Guy
I tried another AMP I'd never been to. It was Fortune Massage at the northeast corner of Flamingo and Paradise, kind of across the street from the Bahama Breeze restaurant. I think it just opened. It's near the Strip and the pricelist was higher than most around town. I opted for the 60 minute massage with table shower for $120. I think just the massage was $90; most others here are $60 or $70. Anyway, the masseusse was Jessica, who was attractive and in her early thirties. She came to LV from California. She spoke fluent English and was quite conversational and friendly.
The table shower was great. She made sure every nook and cranny was clean. The actual massage was quite nice, but only lasted maybe twenty minutes. She used a little more oil than I prefer. After the flip, she massaged my chest and legs. She asked me if I wanted "him" massaged. Of course I did. She asked for $100, but I only had $50. She accepted it and gave a very nice HJ. It was a nice experience, but a little pricey, even for Sin City.
Member #1620,
I sent you a PM regarding the 411 on an asian apartment you mentioned in Vegas. I will be there in a couple of weeks and that srt of game is what I really like. Love those cute asian girls. Please PM me back, greatly appreaciated, Thanks for the info.
Member #1332
09-16-04, 02:10
Hi All,
Frequent poster in CA/San Diego area. Looking for some party girls without the usual hassles for a very small hard core bachelor party in Vegas around Jan 14, 2004. Anyone know of chicks that are decent looking - will put out and are not aready listed on the other escort sites? Looking for at least 2 chicks 20-30 blonde & brunette.
Thanks!
10safe0sory
09-16-04, 02:59
As most of you know, I just do the regular SW routine. Last Thurs, picked up a well proportioned LSW named Angel on Boulder. Nice C cups, black hair, spoke quitely and calmly, very well groomed - semi low cut dress on top and just above her knees on the bottom. We went through the normal checkout routine and for FS it was $$2 and $.8 for BJ. After I picked my lower jaw off the floor, I told her that this ain't the strip, and I never pay more than $.3 for BJ and $.5 for FS. She then countered with $.5 for CBJ, if I was quick about it. No way!! Attitude was reasonable, was pleasant, as was I, and just told her that in this neck of the woods, those prices won't fly. I took her back to AZ Charlies and wished her well.
Sunday nite saw a WSW named Chrissy, 5ft 6", about 130 lbs, glasses, blonde hair pulled back, well groomed and OK attitude. Got to her room and 1/2 & 1/2 was $.4, but talk about a zero lay, I mean a friggin zombie, zip, zero, absolute nada. BJ was covered, and the rest was just use the hole and she would stay as quiet as poss. I left without gettin off. Avoid her guys, she stays at the motel next to the Thousand Trails membership park.
Not to be critical guys, but some of you mongers out there are really drawing loads of unnecessary attention to yourselves. I almost never compete for SWs with other monger intentionally. Recently, it seems there are more of us than there are of them and I'll notice at least one and sometimes two or three mongers cruising a SW. I never get involved in such competition mainly because I think trying to out maneuver another monger leads to haste and haste leads to getting busted because you're not careful enough and there is a long parade of cars going 5-10mph in the same lane all bunched together. I've seen a couple of mongers cross over the median to get to one and do a U-turn in the middle of the street. What it does it draw loads of attention to you, LE sure notices and regular citizens notice even more.
I much prefer to spot a SW, make a pass or two or sometimes three or four to check her the surroundings out and pick my ambush spot. Often on the last pass I'll give her a sign that I am interested which allows her to do her due diligence of the area before I return. More than once I have made what I believed was a perfectly safe pick up spot, only to see a suspicious car parked nearby. I firmly believe that the more professional SWs are a lot more attuned to LE than we are. Don't take it personally if they wave you off, or you spot a very suspicious car, because it may be in both of your best interest.
Regardless, use the big head first. I know how horny we can sometimes be, but a huge fine and maybe a night in the can ain't the way to spend time or funds. Personally, I know you guys are usually a lot faster at gettin to them than I will ever be, but then its really OK, cause freedom, both financial and physical, is more important than any piece will ever be. (and yes I miss a lot of it because I'm extra cautious, but so be it.) Even though it has dried up quite a bit, it is there. Be safe, not sorry.
Was at the Bellagio recently and am pleased to report many cg's working the casino and on benches in the lobby. Most were quoting 2 to 3 but could be talked down to 1.5. Some really cute. Also tried a amp that the cabbie took me to. There where several together and I think it was called rainbow massage. It was a traditional amp with decent service. Also tried an asian service from the phone book and it sucked, older gal with quickie hj . All in all a good time.
Treasures has just lost its liquor license because they didn't live up to their original terms (no solicitation). What I found interesting in the article was the following:
Private investigator Tom Dillard had done an undercover comparison of Treasures and its competitors at the club's request. Dillard's 120-page affidavit detailing his investigation turned up activity at Treasures competitors "equally as graphic" as the allegations against the Davaris' clubs in Texas, Fiorentino said.
At one Las Vegas club, Dillard said, a dancer told him, "I can do a table dance for $20 or I can go to your room for $300."
Treasures and all but one of the clubs probed by Dillard had about the same level of compliance, Dillard said. However, one competitor, which Treasures representatives declined to name, was "way out of control."
-- I would sure like to know which club was "way out of control"
see http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/Sep-16-Thu-2004/news/24780986.html
for the full article
Desert Dude
09-16-04, 12:16
SafeSorry,
Excellent advice! I have had the same thing happen, and was happy to just keep driving. The other thing that I've heard that keeps me careful is that if the girl has any priors, then there is basically no way of B.S.ing your way out of it. Plus, as I may have noted earlier (can't remember my own posts!), many of these girls are way into crack and other substances. I sure wouldn't want to be around that stuff in the middle of an arrest. With all of that said, I still think Vegas has tons of opportunity. Didn't even post about the sweetie I met 2 weekends ago, as I didn't have any contact info to share. Angie, from Indiana. Been in Vegas for 2 weeks. A total doll, high 9's. Agreed to 30 bj, which was spirited and inspired, if a bit rushed. Then we kicked back and had a beer. Offered to go for a drive, took her out to see Red Rocks, which blew her away, as she really loves mountains, but had been stuck in the city. En route, got a total earful on how pimps work in Vegas. She's late 20's, shoulder length brunette, b-cup, amazing eyes, sharp mind. She was going back with her old dude that evening, who is setting her up with the 500-1000 crowd, which she could certainly do. If anybody meets up with her, I'd love to get a PM on how to get back with her!
Happy mongering,
The dude.
The word on the street is that the "equally as graphic"/"out of control" club alluded to in the Treasures story is Cheetahs, which is supposed to be pretty wild right now with a lot of extras, especially on weeknights.
Stroll Looker
09-17-04, 14:50
Got to see Michelle again and hooked her up with Wrist we will have to see how his report comes out. To all that wanted her contact info she works ever night between 1am and 3 am on the corner of 11th and Freemont. Good luck and happy hunting I’ll be out of the game for a while as my work is transferring me out of town for a few months.
Good luck, Stay Safe and happy hunting.
Jpf,
I'm finding the same kind of atitude at the Glitter Gulch, which for some reason was hopping on a Thursday night. Maybe it was the Biker Convention.
The City is going to look at implenting the "distance rule" in the Vegas strip clubs. They say it's a perfect time, with all the recent problems, to co-ordinate with Metro and put it in place.
Currently it's skin to skin is allowed but not in a sexual manner. City Council feels that is too subjective and will work at defining it better - as in 3 feet between dancer/patron. They mention the "success" of that type of law in other cities.
Norman Stormin
09-17-04, 23:52
I'm new to the Forum but a 30 year veteran of the Fremont Street / Boulder Hwy mongering sceen. The Atomic was my headquarters until about a year ago when Oscar started his cleanup campaign.
I believe the heat is easing up a bit. There are more girls on the street. The Western has also eased up its policies since Barrick Gold took over. $2 forty ounce draft beers and quite a few working girls. I scored twice in there this week. Once with Natasha, the infamous spinner from the Atomic. $20 BBBJCIM.
This is a great Forum. Some of you seem very well informed on the local sceen: Wastrel, Cienega32, Phat gman, Desert Dude, and member # 1620.
I look forward to being a regular contibutor.
Late Night
09-18-04, 00:56
I have gotten countless number of bare bobos at strip clubs in Vegas!
PsyberZombie
09-18-04, 08:36
CHEETAH's is Da Bomb , huh ??
Thanks for the Tip , Scrodie !!
I'll be visiting 'Lost Wages' [ arriving later today ] and usually avoid the strip club scene , for reasons you just read above
... but this one sounds promising , even though it's top·less only
[ See = http://www.stripclublist.com/c.asp?c=8339 ]
Here's their web site =
http://www.cheetahsnv.com/
And a map to the place =
http://*******.com/5gxal
See ya there !!
p.s. I'm also going to spend afew days in Laughlin ; so I gotta go check out that board now
PsyberZombie
09-18-04, 08:58
Here's some Advice for any·one who's a First Time Visitor
to 'Lost Wages'
*** Why you do NOT want to let a Cab Driver 'help' you find some Action in LV ***
Mainly, because most of them are on the take from at least one of the numerous Clip Joints in town and they get a kick-back from the club for every sucker they deliver.
Here's how it works=
After you ask the Cabbie for some advice, he tells you he'll take you "The hottest place in town... just what you're looking for!"
He then drops you at a Joint where the cover charge is at least .5
Once inside, sure enough, there's a bevy of beautiful and alluringly dressed or un-dressed young ladies.
You're so enchanted that you don't notice the small signs on the wall that state "Prostitution is Illegal in Las Vegas etc." and "No Alcohol is Sold on the premises"
Within minutes of your arrival you are 'hit on' by some sweet young thing who talks you into ordering a round of drinks which turn out to be the most expensive fruit punch you'll ever buy in your life.
After some small talk, with plenty of 'kino' [ i.e. her touching you ] , she hints broadly at the pleasures that await you in the 'Champagne Room'
After you agree to go, and pay the $ cover charge there, she orders a non-alcoholic 'split' bottle of 'champagne' which costs more than a Full bottle of Dom Perignon
Then she wants another, and then still another...
At some point you either run out of money or, more likely, begin to demand some the 'services' she promised you earlier
At this point she excuses herself to use the restroom. But within seconds of her leaving the room two or three burly bouncers appear and politely but menacingly escort you from the Club.
They are shocked, Shocked! that you attempted to solicit their fellow employee.
You, natch, are too smart to try to engage these gorillas in a fight, so you end up outside where there's a cab waiting, not with the driver who brought you, but with the driver who just delivered Some Other Sucker!
Since you were trying to commit an illegal act, you can't exactly call the Police
As your cab pulls out of the club's parking lot, you see a cab with yet another schmuck pulling in
And as you head back to your Hotel, you realize that the 'Circle of Suckers' is now complete !!
My Vegas trip on Thursday was eventful and, to be truthful, quite different. I drove to Vegas from Orange County, noticing that there was quite a few bikers heading in the same direction. I found out once I hit Vegas that there was a Harley Davidson convention in town.
That night I headed for Glitter Gulch. As I've said before, this place gets, I believe, and undeserved bad rap and I will be happy to talk this place up in the PMs. I have picked up women in this bar (not dancers...regular women) and once joined a bachlorette party where I was making out with the bride-to-be and her best friend!
I bought my two drinks (which I would have bought anyway) and had some fun. Had a few laps, and then had a conversation with a couple that was sitting across the stage from me. Actually, the lady in that couple came over to me and introduced herself.
Being downtown, this place gets alot of couples. What I never hear though is that alot of these couples are swingers. She asked me to join her and her husband and her girlfriend on the other side of the bar, which I did. We drank and chatted and tipped the dancers together, all the time the wife with her arms around me and my hands all over her ass.
After a while, they had to leave but they gave me thier number for partying another time (they were also from SoCal). About 15 minutes after they left, another couple asked me where they had gone and I told them they had to leave. They were another swinging couple! They were there for the biker convention, The same thing started all over again! The wife rubbing her tits all over me, I with my hands all over her and making out, and the guy telling me how much he likes to watch his wife fuck other men! If that wasn't good enough, they had an expense account and wouldn't let me pay for any drinks.
But it was getting late, and they had to get going too. They gave me a business card and told me to keep in touch. They were from SoCal too.
I also had several laps that night, and believe me, they are more than willing to put out. I even had one willing on being my sometime girlfriend as long as I threw her a few bucks once in a while.
All this on a Thursday nite, early Friday, midnite to 3am. Its true. What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. At least until I make some phone calls lol.
Hi,
This is just a suggestion, so please don't take it the wrong way.
I appreciate the details in your report, but I know from experience that a lot of people find it easier to read a report if the paragraphs are separated by a single blank line.
I know how this happens: You're banging away at the keyboard, putting your thoughts into the report as fast as you can write them. However, if you could hit the return key TWICE at the end of each paragraph, your report would be much easier to read, which would certainly be appreciated by your fellow Forum Members.
Thanks,
Jackson
If they pass that three feet rule between patron and dancer, I don't think anyone in their right mind would pay for a dance. I would rather just sit on bolo head row and spend my money there. Pay $20 a song for a dance and not even stroke her skin forget it!
Norman Stormin
09-19-04, 11:47
SW Action
I haven't seen much mention of the Boulder Highway south of Trop. This has always been a fertile area, and has become even better since they started the oder out zones downtown and the big cleanup on Fremont.
I might mention that this is a unique hood of rednecks and bikers where speed, rather than crack, is the drug of choice. Start at the 7-11 on Missouri and work your way down to the Stadium Saloon. Most of them hang out in the bars along the way: Four Aces, Tony B's, and Stadium. You only catch them ocassionally walking from refuge to sanctuary.
The best bet is the Stadium. Many live in the toilet motel next door. The Stadium has a laundromat I have christened the "SPEED QUEEN" wherein many Speed Queens hang out.
They also have a small walled patio area between the building and sidewalk wherein they may "loiter" without fear of LE. The parking lot is the perfect turn around spot to head back north. The girls know this too and you will sometimes find them in the lot on the south and rear of the builing.
LE patrols regularly but have only seen them make stops on the street. (Cruise, identify target, signal, and pull into nearest establishment to avoid problem). Better yet, just hang in one of the bars and they'll show up. Buy her a drink (well or domestic only) and make your move. Never pay more than $20 BJ / $40 FS.
Hope this helps.
Stormin
USTraveller
09-20-04, 00:53
A warm welcome to you Stormin Norman. He is a valuable addition to this forum as I've been reading about Las Vegas on a few other sites over the years. I'm an AMP guy who's slowly trying to make the transition to a SW guy in order to save a few bucks. I think his info on this forum will help me do that.
On my last trip out, I was staying at the GN Downtown and made the walk out past the El Cortez to The Atomic bar. It was closed but it was nice to see the place I read so much about.
Welcome again, Stormin.
-USTraveller
Late Night
09-20-04, 00:57
>>>>WTF is Bare Bobos?
Thanks<<<<<
blowjob!
Jim Neighbors
09-20-04, 02:14
Three weeks ago I found myself in Henderson for some fun and business activities. I asked my hotel doorman to send me to a local AMP.
I went to Sunset Spa just across from Barley's Casino. Got "Men-ne," or somethinf like that. Pretty, older masseuse with a nice bod and great attitude. TS was good, massage was lacklustre, with just a little targeted rubbing here and there.
But it all comes to the flip, where she went well past any non-FS amp I've been to. She started with the usual teasing and HR, but then got closer and closer as I felt up her boobs and twat. Then, to my surprise, she did some DFK and even a little BBBJ. A first for me at this kind of AMP.
The bill: .85 for the massage and TS (1hr) and I gave her 60 for the tip, considering how far she went (I usually tip 20-40). Go there and don't be sorry.
JN
Norman Stormin
09-20-04, 13:50
Thank you Traveller. You must be a Sleazy member. Please PM me your handle and the next time you'll be in town. We can do a tour.
Sunday is normally my day of rest. This is the day my cleaning girl does the house and drains my pipes. Unfortunately she found my intinerary and chica list for an upcoming South American sojourn. No pipe cleaning today. It's time to go hunting.
I think I'll go find Mary, a girl who loves to swallow. She had disappeared from the Boulder Highway for about 2 months but I got a handle on her from Natasha. It seems she voluntarily went to drug rehab but couldn't cut it. I went to her apartment but no answer.
Let's try Fremont Street. Strike Two. The area is crawling with cops because 10 of the 30 thousand bikers here for bikerfest are still cruising.
Go South young man. I took Boulder Highway (herein after referred to as the B/H) all the way to Joker's Wild. I stopped for a liquid lunch at the Look Inn. Too many bikers. Ten to one guy to girl ratio plus these are RUBS (rich urban bikers) overtipping the girls. Too much competition for me.
I headed back towards town and spotted one going into the Stadium. She turned out to be the swing shift relief bartender. But at least all the patrons were regulars and I didn't have to compete with RUBS for the singularly available working girl, Patti. She was very happy to see me. She couldn't wait to tell me how she'd cleaned up her act, gotten off the drugs, served all of her time, and had no outstanding warants. Her jail time was evident because of the wieght gain and she was very proud to show me her naturally enhanced boobs.
Our last car date was about a year ago and quite a memorable experience. We parked in the desert behind the Red Rooster. After she did the deed, I grounded the truck on a boulder. Rather than bailing with her newly found Jackson, she hung with me for two hours, helping me dig out. What a trooper !
It had been so long that I had forgotten how good she was. First class BBBJCIM. She doesn't swallow but spits very professionally; never letting up until she gets the last drop and then carefully opening the door to expectorate clear of the vehicle.
Hope this helps,
Stormin
Desert Dude
09-20-04, 13:59
Once again, Vegas comes thru for some classless fun. Right across the street from the hotel hooked up with 'China', who was all over a 20 for a somewhat toothy bj. She had a nice side, but after a little bit her psychotweaker side also showed up. Careful with this one guys. Skinny, late 30's, bsw, hmmm, not sure how to further define. Great ass. Just remember the name, I guess.
Saturday morning tripped over another real honey. Right in front of the Atomic [here's to ya Normin]. Jenny, blond, maybe 25-30. 5'8" I'm guessing, simply perfect body, ok, maybe a 9.5 in my book. [For the record, China had a 8.0 body, 3.0 performance, -4.5 attitude]. Jenny has her shit together, taking business classes etc. She should absolutely be the 3-4 bill casino girl type. I knew my 20 was NOT going to cut it with this one, which was totally fine, so started at 30. She said, noooooo, and I quickly said 40. She said- up another notch. I quickly said 41? She laughed and I said 50, she said ok, this time. Outstanding half/half, finishing with some reverse cowgirl. Nice little tattoos too. This one's worth being way nice to. She's quite suspicious, which I don't mind, but be ready for a lot of questions. Straight blond hair, shoulder length, kind of a big prominant nose. She's a keeper.
Then Sunday, on the way out, swung by the old Trop/Ind hood. Ran into Jessica, who looks like crap these days, nose has been broken, bruises all over, been in the can twice in the last month. 20 head just for old times sake. Dropped her off at the other Budget Suites, a little further out Trop, and was surprised at the number of apparent working girls cruising around at 4pm or so. Might have to explore that further.
Time for a white russian.
The dude
Furryscott
09-20-04, 23:03
I'm sorry to have to do this but the BS meter is WAY in the red.
I'll start off with a few of the "discoveries" some guys have had.
"Things can get a little more wild on the weekends at the strip clubs." --Why yes indeedy they can! Thats because all the strippers from Cali come on over to Vegas to make some good money on the weekends. All they need is a non gaming card and I think it's $50 house fee and their good to go until they want to leave. Their going to be a little more frisky because their only going to be there for 2-3 days tops.
Late Night
"I have gotten countless number of bare bobos at strip clubs in Vegas."
No disrespect to you sir, but if what your claiming is true...
A) How many times have you gotten kicked out of a strip club?
B) Did you mind being VIDEOTAPED while getting your "bare bobo?"
C) Did you happen to notice any LARGE BOUNCERS wandering the floor keeping an eye on EVERYTING LIKE A HAWK?
Once again, I apologize for calling you out but I think your disingenuous in claiming that you get "a lot" of "bare bobos" at strip clubs. You're sending the wrong message to a lot of guys who are looking for info on this board.
Bandit69
"Was at the Bellagio recently and am pleased to report many cg's working the casino and on benches in the lobby. Most were quoting 2 to 3 but could be talked down to 1.5."
ABSOLUTE BS!!!!
I gamble at the Bellagio, A LOT.....When I go in that's the first thing I do, wander on over by the BACCARAT BAR and notice who's "working" that night. You can expect anywhere from 4 to as many as 7 or 8 kicking back at the bar drinking. (I spotted the later on Sat. night for the De La Hoya/Hopkins fight.)
Mr Bandit69. I hate to call you out but can you answer a question for me?
A) Why would a Hook go to the BELLAGIO and start at $2-3 to be talked down to 1.5 WHEN THE COST OF A STANDARD ROOM STARTS AT $200 ?!?!?!? AND THATS ON A MONDAY!!!!!
A standard room on the weekend STARTS at 259 and skyrockets to 499!!!
B)Hooks DON'T go to 2 BILLION dollar casinos to give themselves away. These women are looking for foreigners with A LOT OF CASH. If you were to walk up and try and talk them down. They'd get up and walk away. Simple as that. Why in the hell would they sit there and let you talk them down to 1.5 when that little horny Japanese guy two seats down would fork over 5-1000 dollars in a heartbeat??
You Sir, Are also being disingenuous and are giving the wrong message to the guys that turn to this forum for the facts.
For the few of you who are looking for independants. My suggestion would be to go to a local 7-11 and pick up the LAS VEGAS WEEKLY and the CITYLIFE publications.....They're both free and they both have a LARGE adult classifieds section (With color pictures!) I'd imagine if you tried googling a few key words you could find a lot of independants too. PM If you want links.
I AM IN NO WAY TRYING TO START A FLAME SESSION! I just wanted to get that off my chest. To the guys looking for info, read what they said and then read my reply...and then THINK for yourselves....I live here and I see a LOT of things. But what those guys wrote is a little too far fetched.
I've had some outrageous experiences over the years that if I heard them from someone else, I would have called them BS too. I've gotten two BJs in clubs (though not in Vegas) so I would never doubt anyone who told me they did. Sometimes, you just get lucky. And Vegas is the place where Lady Luck lives.
On a personal note...I've been to the Bellagio and most of the other stip casinos. I aint impressed. If I was to see volcanos and pirates and trip over peoples' kids, that's the place to go. I prefer margaritas in plastic footballs, loose slots and nudey bars myself. I like a little sleaz in my Las Vegas lol.
And Norman...if I could find a woman that gives BBBJCIM, will actually make the effort to spit outside AND dig my truck out of the mud, I'd marry that girl. But then again, you again take the ho off the street but can't take the street out of the ho.
Norman Stormin
09-21-04, 13:01
Hey Dude!
Another great post. For a non local, you are right on target.
I was suprised to see China walking Fremont Sunday afternoon.
She used to work out of the Atomic but would never set foot outside without an escort (either her pimp or a date) and was never, to my knowledge, busted either. I guess they've run most of the pimp / drug dealers out of town. I never did her because of price / attitude. Also, I'm not too keen on some pimp lurking in the shadows. I was also suprised you got her for a Jackson. She used to be 50 / 100. But then that was when she paid the vig for protection. I think we are reaping an indirect price reduction due to Oscar's cleanup campaign. More independents out there.
Your Jenny report has me intriguied. Her name and description match one I met at the Ukelele a few months ago. However, she claimed to be a flag girl. She was with a married friend of mine who doesn't like to kiss and tell. He gave her a little work at his nearby apartments. I never got the story but I did get some pics. She was eager to flash. She was a large C, small D, blue eyes. I'd post a pic here but it's in the wrong format (bitmap).
I cruised Fremont yesterday afternoon and stopped in the Western for a look. There was nothing available so I thought I'd have a 40 ouncer and wait. I just got my beer and all hell breaks loose. The place was stormed by a Batallion of firemen shouting for everyone to get out. There was water gushing out of the ceiling in the rear half of the casino. No alarm, no smoke, no fire, no sprinklers, just water gushing out of the ceiling. I assumed the fire was in the rooms above the casino.
I grabed my beer and went outside to find the building surrounded by 11 BIG trucks. There was no visable smoke, but then again there was no smoke at the MGM fire either. I went back in as far as the front 21 table to watch the pandamonia unfold. The casino manager was there on his cell phone saying "I don't know. All I know is there are a hundred firemen here telling everyone to get out. I'm just trying to lock up the money".
What a Chinese fire drill ! Can you imagine half the people here don't even speak English. Do you think a slot addict is going to leave with money in his machine or a bar fly leave with a full beer on the bar? What a circus!
I dumped my beer and came home to the ranch. I figured I'll find out what happened on my rounds tonight. Hopefully, we'll still have our $2 forty ounce watering hole.
Keep up those good posts Dude,
Stormin
Late Night
09-21-04, 16:48
Furryscott ,
Personally, I rather stay away from the strip clubs myself and find action in the casinos. Getting play at the strip club is a form of art (in vegas or outside vegas) which not a lot of people can do. I'm a pushy (but nice) guy. I try to convince girls in strip clubs (in or outside vegas) to give me extra pleasure. "just touch my thing" "just for few seconds.." "I need to be teased.." please put your mouth on the head for few seconds".."oh that feels so good...go a little longer..."
btw, go back to my posts where i stated i have gotten lucky wiotout paying fees for CG. It happens 1/23 times..
you'r bs meter is very close minded. remeber the golden rule of the game, YMMV!!
Good luck!
Took a drive down T & I this morning about 3am on my way out of town for work. Saw a number (5 or 6) of SW's working. Perhaps this area is picking back up?
Found a girl by the name of Amy. An absolutely gorgeous 20yo blonde girl from Vancouver, Canada. Went back to her hotel for a buck and a quarter for fs. This girl was gorgeous with an amazing body and definately worth every penny and more! She was staying at the Budget Suites and said she is a regular there. I definately plan on finding her again!
I am fairly new to the area but would love any insider info about girls or locations. Please PM me.
10safe0sory
09-21-04, 23:37
Friday and Sat were pretty much a bust, no pun intended. I guess most of the SW were on the strip or I just plain missed. Very possible, but I went out at three different times and the one that were out were truly grim reaper stuff. Sunday, I connected with Barbara, a specialist in BBBJCIM near Sam's Town. She hasn't lost her touch, but I had lost touch, and since she has so many regulars, she really doesn't need to go out much. She lost here lease at the place she was stayin but still manages with just her pager in a dumpy motel. She is one of the top 3 or 4 of all time BJ's. Talks a lot though when not doing the deed. Attitude 9.5, looks 6, skill 9.5. Half and half is hit or miss with her, (depends if she's into that day or not) but she more than makes up for it in the BJ of the Year category. Treat her right guys. Many of the SW are indeed moving south of Tropicana to the bars about 1/2 mile down, but as often happens, others mongers beat me to them. More power to them. There is a HSW who was busted last Sunday night flashin herself at passing cars with one person in it. As Bill Engvall would say, give her a sign. LOL. Stay safe.
Good friend of mine is looking for a girlfriend experience in Las Vegas. Will be traveling there late December into January, can anyone help him out with suggestions?
Thanks
Any advice for a pedestrian monger? Will be in Vegas on business this coming week. Likely downtown. Will have no car. Would rather not go with escort. Any street action I can access within reasonable distance? Any referrals for bsw that will make calls to my hotel for .75 or less? Looking forward to any info and will provide report upon return.
Dickus Maximus
09-22-04, 22:13
Good results midweek in Vegas. Had a fun time being hit on at the Mandalay Bay bar. By 1am almost every girl in there was working. Worked out a deal with a slender sophisticated half white/half black girl for $$. (she started at $$$). But on the way back to the room she started to add conditions - not FS, but I'll make you satisfied - so I sent her on her way.
I don't know what LE and the hotels complain about. The girls get a lot of business going for the bar, between the guys buying them drinks and the guys staying there drinking because the girls are there.
Went down to the bridges about 4am at Trop and Los Vegas Blvd. Immediately found a cute SW slight bit of tummy pudge but very pretty face. Nicely dressed. She said $$$ but immediately droped to $$ when I said too expensive. Dropped so quick, that she might have gone lower, but the experience was good so what the heck. Perfect boobs, sweet, no rush, very nice.
All in all much prettier girl and much nicer suroundings than TJ and much less rush, although much more $. Gotta go to Vegas at the slow times. I've been there when the girls wouldn't budge from $$$$$.
Happy Hunting!
I arrive tonight and just can't stay away from the SCs. A good way to spend too much money. The escorts are way too expensive. I've enjoyed CH2 and the all nude no alcohol place there on Industrial behind Circus Circus. Maybe I'll try Cheetah's tonight.
I can't believe that anyone would be happy with someone selected from one of those newspapers listing ladies. I think that's a sure way to find bait and switch and cash and dash.
I've had a few very good, but expensive escort experiences. There's one girl I like a lot, but she's WAY too expensive. Maybe I just need to take some medicine when I get to town to remove the horns.
I'd love to cruise and see the SWs out and about, but I'm too naive to have success in that endeavor.
Mets Fan II
09-22-04, 23:00
First time poster, long time lurker, Norman Stormin I am going to be in vegas over the weekend. I wanted to know where the Atomic bar was, and what hours to go there? Thanks for your help.
Mets Fan II
Air Cooled
09-23-04, 13:41
Quick question: I'm not a Vegas local, just an infrequent visitor, and I'm planning my next visit.
I've heard/read about a place called Atomic Liquors that is supposed to be a source for fun. Is this merely a hangout for SWers, or is this a bar, or what? I realize it's on the sleazy side of the scale, but sometimes that's the most exciting (this coming from someone that thinks Showgirl Video is cool just for the novelty factor of a peep show format).
Oh, and for Gentleman Slim -- Cheetahs, all the way!
I will be downtown the weekend of oct 16th, anyone you can refer me to would help.
Furryscott:
I totally agree with you about some of these reports, highly exaggerated and unrealistic. There is one report that you pointed out to be bogus however which is actually surprisingly accurate. I'm not a local, but I've been a frequent visitor for the last 10 or so years. Certain very well known strip clubs (I will not mention them here) do indeed have "bare bobos" highly available.
It's only during the daylight hours, and you'll be surprised how much you can get away with in the VIProom. All you have to do is slip the bouncer/VIPdoorman a twenty, and he suddenly goes blind. One time upon entering the VIP for this very purpose, this one blantantly told me "just no fucking ok?" You'll probably pay the girl equivalent to a CG service at a local casino for a regular bj, which I know isn't worth it for a lot of folks, but sometimes when the girl works you up so good you can't help it. All prices are negociable though if you're a talker. The lowest I've paid was $, which is still pretty high for what you get elsewhere. Most of the girls that offer, you can also arrange to meet them for the real deed back in your hotel.
I don't believe in the camera theory. Maybe it comes on at night when it has reason to be on, but I've gotten away with too many things and haven't witnessed any 'busts' (no pun intended) due to camera activity that it makes me doubt it even exists. Why do they even need bouncers that have to walk around with flashlights in certain clubs when the big eye is the sky is capturing every move? I would have been arrested (or cited) a hundred times by now. I have heard of places like DejaVu having cameras, but those places have never been high mileage clubs anyway to begin with. Never been my favorite place.
So yes, "bare bobos" are VERY prevalent in Vegas strip clubs.
Vanderley
Normus Johnson
09-24-04, 10:14
On my way to Vegas for the sixth time and just found out that a good buddy of mine, who lives in another part of the country , was dumped by his wife last month.
I would like to take him to a hot place where there are lot of pros to chat with. He is staying at Harrah's.
My friend doesn't dance but he mentioned this club that girls dance behind a screen? In Cesears palace?
Suggestions needed so that I can get his old bag off his mind.
Thanks
Norman Stormin
09-24-04, 13:23
Atomic Liquors
Until this time last year, it was the epicenter of Las Vegas Sleazedom for over 50 years. I suggest you read Wastrel's great primer on the subject posted 10-6-03. As this place is an anomoly, I would like to supplement his informative commentary based on my experiences.
Joe and his wife Stella built this place in the early 50's and have operated it ever since. Joe is the tough guy operator from New York and his sweetheart wife is the bookkeeper. I fondly refer to Joe as OCJ (Old Cheap Joe) becuse in 30 years I've never seen him buy a customer a drink. This has got to be the only bar in town that that does not comp players. Although a good zook to the bartender solves this problem when the boss isn't around.
Day shift (6am to 3pm) there is no action. Duke, the bartender, is really not interested in cultivating business. Joe and Stella are there counting. Stella counts the money (after Joe has already counted it 3 times) and Joe counts the inventory. Historically, only one or two local drunks and an occasional package sale.
Swing shift used to be 3 to 11pm but now they close at 10. Until sunset, regular locals stop by for an after work toddy. In the 70's and early 80's this included many lawyers, judges and Feds. They seemed to switch between here and Benny Binion's depending on who was talking about whom. A notable regular at this time was our recently departed Supreme Court Justice John Mobray. OCJ tells me a lot of celebraties frequented here in the 50's and 60's. Since Oscar's cleanup campaign started last year, very little action.
Grave yard was when it happened, but, alas, no longer. The place would fill up as soon as Jimmy showed up. His objective: keep law and order for 8 gruelling hours and ring at least $400 to keep OCJ happy (the rest was his). Jimmy ruled with a silver tongue for 14 years. He was a retired CPO from the deep south. He just had a knack for charming those drug dealers and working girls into submission. When he retired, the place went to hell. His successors thought they could work both sides of the bar, doing the drugs and the women for special favors. It doesn't work that way and the place almost lost its license.
I was there for the first two of three shakedowns. Thank God I was in South America for the third. The first one was only a shot over the bow, they didn't bother the patrons. Metro escorted license and health inspectors. After about an hour the head guy loudly proclaimed to the bartender he found evidence of drugs in the ladies room and this would not be tolerated. They left. The second act was a full lock down with about 10 cops. All customers were shook down. The floor looked like that Harlem bar scene in the French Connection. Twelve customers were booked for warrants or possession. In the third and final act everyone, including the oncoming and outgoing bartenders, were cuffed and left face down on the floor for 3 hours while they did their search and run mission. The swing shift bartender quit after that. The grave bartender was fired, and the place was closed for a brief time. OCJ made a deal with Metro to permanently close on grave. He also went to the papers and got a big sympathy story which probably saved his license.
I just received an email from Rick, the evening bartender, giving me a heads up on Friday and Saturday night activity picking up. I think I'll check it out tonight. Regarding the Western, there was a fire in a room above the casino. The sprinklers on that floor flooded the casion below. Only one room, no injuries, and they were up and running in 4 hours. Hey Dude, we still have our $2 forty ouncers !
Hope this helps,
Stormin
Haven't reported in a long while, but I can add a little something about one club here in Vegas. I don't go to them anymore, as there are better ways to spend my money, but I did use to get just about anything I wanted in the Fox's den at the old Tally-Ho
when I was naive about pay for play.
I don't know if Sherri's Cabaret, which used to be Tally-Ho, still allows some of the stuff I got away with in there, but if you have a lotta cash to spend, then it might be worth a try to you if you want to waste that green. It depends on the girl, of course, but the right one shouldn't be hard to find.
I've had FS Without condom in them, I've had BBJCTCIM in them, and I've had HJ's in them. I paid way too much though and I went to other and better sources when I found they could be had.
If you like that scene, then perhaps Sherri's is worth a look and as has been said before, go during the day.
Just got back from Vegas. I went to Cheetahs. I had a good time. A nice selection of girls, so I had quite a few dances.
Night two, I checked out a couple of escorts. Price too high, so I tried Deja Vu, where I have had a good time in the past. There wasn't much I was interested in until I found this very cute, skinny, mixed race sweetheart. I spent way too much with her, but I really liked her.
I had thought about hooking up with Audree Jaymes, who was/is based in Vegas. I got her to give me a discount off of her regular rate once and had a good time. Now's she's with Exotica 2000 and has probably doubled her price. Oh well. Get 'em when they are just getting started for the bargains. I can say I knew her when.
I got some good PMs from folks about Vegas. Thanks for those. This is a good community for those who want to have fun. I might actually come to like Vegas some day. I go there on business often. I'd never go on vacation, but I have made my peace with the place.
BTW, if you are from out of town and like the outdoors, I highly recommend Red Rocks Canyon to the west of town. It's about 40 minutes from downtown, but it's an incredible natural wonder. It's much more of an attraction to me than what people usually go there for.
Capt Cruiser
09-24-04, 23:44
I was down in Vegas this last weekend and had a great time. I usually gamble in the evening and head out to the strip clubs at around 2am. I love Vegas strip clubs. Olympic Garden is my favorite (I like a little sleaze) but also went to Spearmint Rhino this time which was unbelievably packed for Tuesday.
Of course I get lots of dances from different ones and try to see if any of the girls may go back to my hotel room. I have been in Vegas about 8 times in the last 3 years and have only had two girls say yes. One wanted a ridiculous amount of money $8, and I messed up when I went behind the club to pick up the second girl (only wanted $)so she wouldn't get in.
I have read a few posts here that talk about street girls which is more my speed. I cruised the strip in between Stratosphere and Fremont. This is a seedy part of town with hotels by the hour. I saw a few different girls on my passes. I finally picked one up. She was nice. She was up with four of her friends from AZ. She said they do this every few weeks. 24 years old, not totally hot, had kids and it showed, but only $ for one hour. I got her into my hotel with no problem. The security guard at the elevators knew what was going on though but didn't seem to care to much. Did her in a few positions while looking out over the lights of Vegas. She was nice.
The next day I was heading out of the hotel to try a new strip club. On the way out a 40+ year old woman asked me if I was alone and if I wanted to have fun. She wasn't very attractive but I figured I would see what she had to offer. We went up to my room. She started taking her clothes off to reveal her gigantic tits. She wanted $$ and wouldn't commit to any amount of time. It sounded like she only would do BJ and massage for that amount. I said no thanks and she got rude but left.
Went to the strip club and enjoyed a few lap dances. I love Vegas and can't wait to go back. I you are cheap and want a girl in Vegas, I would suggest the strip between Stratosphere and Fremont. It was good to me.
Member #2700
09-25-04, 21:00
Guys,
This is my first post but I do have to say thank you for all the good information about Las Vegas. I’ll be taking a trip to LV in Oct for a bachelor party, and I was wondering if any of the locales have any ideas to make this bachelor party one to remember. I promise to fill you all in when I get back.
How are the hotel/casinos in the Freemont St. area about guests bringing SW's up to their room? I was thinking of staying at someplace like Lady Luck, Golden Nugget, El Cortez, Four Queens or Gold Spike if security is cool with my SW guests.
PsyberZombie
09-27-04, 06:30
Just spent a *Great* Week in 'Lost Wages'
The Big News while I was there was TREASURES loss of their liquor license and the Owners' / Brothers' dismal failure at an attempt to turn the joint into a Top·less Juice Bar !!
[ The first night they tried this , only a half· dozen guys and *one* dancer showed up !! ]
I always have very good luck finding ladies in the Major Strip Hotels and although these Week·End Warriors will set you back at least $$$ , it's worth it for the convenience factor
I hate to give out the name of the Casino here where the Action is hottest , but what the hey =
The Venetian
I even got hit on *twice* there on my way to breakfast
at 8:30 a.m. !!
I also went down to Laughlin , but that's a Story for another Board
GettingTang
09-27-04, 15:36
Be careful bringing girls up to your room that may stick out. A few years back I picked up a nice SW off LV BLVD. She sort of fit the profile, but not totally. We got up to my room, did our thing and when we came out, there was a security officer right there. He had sunglasses on and asked me to step aside. He said, "You beat me up here by about 5 seconds, or what just took place, never would have been able to happen. You get what I'm saying?"
I just ignored him and walked off with my date.
I think these guys have a knack for spotting these girls.
I still maintain Vegas stinks for mongering anymore. I used to love it when the streets where lined with hundreds of SW all to be had for under $1, they came in all flavors shapes and sizes. Now all you get is one extreme or the other. Fremont crack hoes or high class model types in the casino who want 3 bills just to chat for a while, and 5 if you really want to do anything.
Tang~!
When in Sin City, I always prefer to stay downtown, and I've never had any problem taking a lady up to my room. In some of the hotels. like the Four Queens, the elevators are only about 20 feet from the door.
The Strip hotels have gotten uppity over the years, wanting too badly to be the family-kind of place. Sure, you can pick up a SW on the corner in front of the MGM, but try taking her inside. Now downtown...they don't care who comes in and out. I actually met a girl at 9am under the Fremont Experience who, though she insisted she wasn't a prostitute, was still willing to have sex with me for money. Gotta love that!
Not only that, but you get live music, margaritas in big plastic footballs, deep-fried twinkies, and the Glitter Gulch all right there. Oh yeah...they have gambling too.
Tang,
Thanks for the info. Do you recall the hotel that was in? Right now, I'm down to three choices - Flamingo, Hard Rock and El Cortez (for the Fremont SW action if there is any) - do you have any advice on my best bet? From what I have read, I'm thinking Hard Rock.
I just got back from Vegas and stayed at the Flamingo. It seemed like there were a lot of cg around, but couldn't partake as I was with non-mongering friends. Also saw some SW activity near Bally's and the overhead walkway. I also scoped some possible BSW talent by the Bellagio fountains one afternoon.
Planning a return (solo) trip by March.
Vegas Life
09-28-04, 03:40
Took a spin down one of the commercial districts late Sunday evening.
Trop and Industrial, not much happening just one WSW who was chatting with a potential on foot.
Wild West didn't have any action, but I didn't cruise the truck lot, just the surrounding streets.
Industrial from Twain to Wyoming was pretty light as well.
Not the best night to be out it seems.
Going to take a shot at looking for a recommendation someone mentioned earlier. I'll post how it goes.
Regarding Downtown, Most of the hotels do not have security watching the elevators.
I can personally vouch for The Cal, Main Street Station, Fremont, 4 Queens, Fitzgeralds, and the Horseshoe.
The nicest hotel is the Golden Nugget. They do have security that requires a room key to gain access to the elevators, but have READ that having company is not an issue.
On my stays there, I always seem to get the back tower. Its a good walk from the front (Fremont St.), but keep in mind there is another entrance to the hotel from the street on the South side of the hotel right near the elevators for the South tower. No need to walk through the casino with a SW on your arm.
Have fun!
Southpaw,
Those three hotel/casinos you listed are totally different from one another.
The Hard Rock Hotel is stylin', usually just full of cuties, and I have seen working girls in the bars there. I've also seen them working the parking lot, which started security on hassling them. But its a party place so getting laid there shouldn't be a problem. But its about a mile from the Strip and all by itself, which mean you aint walking there. Take a cab and check it out.
The Flamingo is right on the center of the Strip, so you might find a SW in front but you probably aint bringing her up, at least not there. I've seen security en masse on ho's in the strip hotels and it aint pretty. There are families there, and the ho's aint overly welcome.
Now, the El Cortez is a dump. Its a couple blocks from downtown and there are usually SWs somewhere within walking distance. But not nice ones. Bring em' up, use them, then set them back on the street for the next chump. But then again, you can probably get crack ho's in your own hometown.
Southpaw,
The El Cortez posts a member of their crack security team in a little perch by the tower elevators for a few hours about once out of every four or five days on average. It appears totally random when they decide to do this. In the unlikely event that the gentleman “guarding” the elevator is actually awake when you approach he is supposed to ask to see your room key before you get on the elevator. You quickly flash the card and walk by and he goes back to sleep. They do not give a fig who you are boinking or for how much. Trust me, I know folks who work here. Their mission is to discourage cheap thugs coming in from off the street robbing the guest rooms, and they have never questioned how many people are supposed to be attached to that key, and don't care. The only time you might be stopped from bringing your new best friend upstairs here after showing a key card is if the security geezer recognizes that she is someone who has been banned for doing something really outrageous there in the past. If this happens they are doing you a favor. You do not want to have your shorts around your ankles with someone who has been tossed from the El Cortez. In this place you can be sure it was not for using the wrong salad fork, unless she used it in the eye socket of someone she was trying to rob.
The average streetwalker is cleaner looking than most of the regular parolees, er, patrons on the casino floor here, although the tower rooms are surprisingly nice and some on upper floors facing south have a really great panoramic view of the city and the lights of the strip. The lower floors facing north have a view of some local residents vomiting on themselves on the sidewalk. You do not want to stay in the “vintage” rooms that are not in the tower no matter how much cheaper they are. The good old days were not very comfortable. I like the place becuase unlike most of the hotels their TV system does not limit me to getting my information only from a certain Communist News Network, but most people probably don't care about that.
I have never seen the Lady Luck or Four Queens post security at the elevators except when there was a beef with the union a few years ago and they were worried about some goons pulling a stunt as a bargaining tactic. The “Garden Court” rooms are much older and trashier than the tower rooms at the Lady. The Gold Spike is crack central. The low end SWs often rush over here to find their dope dealers after their dates. It is the one hotel downtown that is so rough that I would not stay there at any price. Funny thing though, the worst places can be the ones that feel free to be the most intrusive in their guest's affairs, so it would not shock me if the Spike actually gave you the most grief about taking a SW upstairs, but I don't have any personal experience doing that there.
With the possible exception of the Nugget, none of the other downtown places will pay much attention to your nocturnal appetites unless you have really, really rough taste in women. I can personally assure you that the El Cortez, the Lady Luck, the Las Vegas Club, the Plaza, and Fitzgerald's will not be grilling you just because your companion's taste in fashion runs toward fishnet stockings and red hot pants. Hell, one of the semi-pro working ladies I once shared a downtown room with turned out to be a former employee of the hotel. The only time I've ever had any reaction at all in the downtown hotels was a disapproving look from a security guy on the casino floor at Binion's and he didn't actually say a word. She was a little too sloppy drunk, so I don't blame him for rolling his eyes at the ceiling when she stumbled and couldn't figure out how to put her foot back in her shoe. I'm not sure what's going on now with the prissy little techno-nerds who bought the Nugget, but you don't want to pay to stay there anyway.
On LV Blvd it varies from property to property depending on what market the hotel has decided to cater to, and some of the resorts change their minds about this depending on what convention or event is booked in a given week. The Flamingo is an excellent place for your purposes if you want to do the strip. I usually don't, but it is my favorite place on those rare occasions when I do. I like their theme, and that theme is: “we are adults, and this is a casino in Vegas, not a damn daycare center in Anaheim, so get used to it or go back to your cul-de-sac in Rancho Cucamonga.” It is well located for hooking up with the ultra expensive sharks who patrol the skybridges and circulate on the resort corridor, but the back bar in the Flamingo is often a very good place to get a two-Benjamin special if you wait 'till after three in the morning. If a lady is playing the video poker machines at this bar by herself she is available for rent about four out of five times in my experience. Make use of the safe helpfully provided in the room at the Flamingo before setting out on your hunting expedition; it is there for good reason.
I don't have enough experience with the Hard Rock to have a sensible opinion.
Mr. Stormin,
Thanks for the props. I sometimes wonder if anyone cares about reading this stuff, as I never saw anything back from the gent who originally asked for Atomic info last year.
Regards,
Wastrel
Was out and about late Monday night - just enjoying the weather and saw two or three instances of Metro, a citizen, a flatbed tow truck. One on LV Blvd by Fremont and another on Boulder by St. Loo. Can't remember the third. It may have been on Trop.
Is the city following LA's example or were these just simple arrest/impound situations?
Strangest thing happened - while driving down Trop I noticed my car wasn't tossed into the next lane at any time. They finally repaved that damn road!
Not much around other than a few skanks on the far Boulder stretch and I ended up chasing down the smoke from that huge apartment fire. I almost decided to drive out to the dam and when I got home and watched the news I'm glad I didn't!
And on the subject of Security, patrons, and SW - you would be surprised how many patrons report to security that they were robbed and, after the initial investigation, it turns out to be a trick roll by either call ups or walkers. Of course a lot of them are also people who pawned their wedding ring and jewelry to play "one more hand". A lot easier to explain to the missus with a police report.
The key desk not only gives an aire of security to the guests and helps to trim down the "negative" traffic but the insurance companies love it. Helps in the negligence suits just as much as the electronic keys and the DETEX rounds by security.
Late Night
09-28-04, 17:42
Treasure Island had a BUNCH of fine CGs last week, and Mirage has its large quantity as well. Checked out few exotic 10+ CGs at the Bellagio for fun and play. I was quoted $500, $800 by some of the 11s there. Bought them few drinks, practiced few of my lines, then headed back to TI and picked up CG Crystal for $150 (started at 300). Sexy chica in real short mini skirt, big tits, nice ass, and beautiful set of wheels.
Went back to my room, smoked a fat joint together as she was also a huge fan of Mr. 420..Had few more drinks (99% GFE here), then jumped in bed for a long fuck session with cfs and bare bobo.
She was cool on the time and didnt rush. All around a spectacular pussy for the price and extended time.
420!
Late Night
09-28-04, 17:57
Tang,
YOU SAID >>>We got up to my room, did our thing and when we came out, there was a security officer right there.<<<
so you did your Tang in 5 seconds or less?
LOL!
420!
Wastrel,
Good report. No bullshit and too the point. Very helpful.
I have stayed at the GN everytime I am not on the strip because of business, but I think I should branch out next time I am on Fremont.
Desert Dude
09-28-04, 19:58
Wastrel,
Great report, thanks. I, errr, love staying at the Gold Spike. In fact, just made a reservation this morning for the weekend of the Jimmy Buffett concert. Scored a suite, for $44, which has an L-shaped balcony overlooking Ogden street, a huge king, etc. Security doesn't check at the elevator, but they are around, and the policy there is that all visitors and guests have to be registered. Shouldn't be a problem, but was a bit of a factor once years ago when a cg came by looking for me (wanted to spend the night, whoohoo).
I've had some incredibly funny conversations in the bar too. A month ago, finally got this one greasy dude to shut up about Nam, by talking about what he did before that. Now, this was just a story, but he sure knew enough details to be credible in my book [plus he was so hammered he couldn't have made this up]. The guy had worked for the Harlem Globetrotters, doing trick/pro table tennis acts at half time. Played a song by hitting half full bottles in order, etc. Anyway, getting off track. Rooms are fine, just as nice as the Cortez. It's a little longer walk to the Atomic, but you can tour Ogden on the way, which can sometimes offer up some variety. Oh, and check out cheapovegas.com for some pretty funny descriptions of all of these no-tell motels.
Cheers,
Dudarino
ps- hey Wastrel...the EC's 'crack security team'. They don't just guard the stash/evidence? lol
GettingTang
09-28-04, 20:15
In all my years of travels to Vegas, I've done probably 90 trips or better, I have never stayed in "downtown". Now I've done the tourist walk around visit, but never actually stayed overnight there. So my questions are these.
Of the downtown hotels, which is best, for clean decent rooms. I'm not looking for real luxury, but I don't want a band of gangsters selling crack and shooting one another in the room next door either. Are any of these rooms decent and at which hotel?
Also, if you're there, outside of crack central Fremont BLVD., where can one walk around from the downtown hotels and find a decent date? Or can this even be done? I'm looking for a brief seedy trip. Clean cheap room, some good drink, cheap food, cheap women, step outside and be able to find some wild women. Is downtown this way? Or am I dreaming of Thailand again, lol. In the past, I always stay at the big casinos, rent a car and go mongering that way. Any tips is appreciated.
I had all but given up on Vegas, but the downtown district might spark some interest, if there is some play there. Thanks in advance!
Tang~!
Wastrel,
Simply put, that was one of the most informative posts I have ever read on this site. My hat is off to you.
Thanks!
Cienega32, Modoc Man and tsboy69,
I also thank you guys for your help. I will call on your Vegas expertise again if opportunity calls!
I'm going to go with downtown. Of these three - Lady Luck, Plaza and Las Vegas Club - which hotel/casino offers the best quality while still allowing me my SW mongering? All three look like decent places to stay. I'm dropping the El Cortez from my list. That might be a little too rough for me.
Vegas Life
09-29-04, 03:54
Decided to check out my favorite spot, Trop and Indy again today. This time I went during the day time, 2pm PST.
Worked out really nice. 3 WSW. Parked and took a walk over across the street and asked for change. Katie, a youngish blonde in a pink mini was happy to oblige my request. Headed over to an hourly. Bbj, cfs + room came out to .7 , money well spent!
PsyberZombie
09-29-04, 06:40
I received a PM from a Regular Member that included the following , but I'm posting my reply here so as to maybe get some other comments / advice from the Local Experts
Where exactly at the Venetian is the action? I've been there several times but never been approached before. Where are the best places to look? I assume at one of the bars. Is it mostly only in the nighttime hours (after 10-ish)?
Also, do you have any suggestions on the best way to make contact with these ladies? Do you just make eye contact and let them do the "approaching"?
Of course the Bars after midnight are the best place to start =
Any Chick playing video poker alone is Fair Game
My standard Opening Line is :
" Hi !! Are you here for the Convention ?? "
[ This was the line that the Hooker played by Elizabeth Berkely used in the 1995 flick "SHOWGIRLS" , and just about every Pro Girl will get your 'drift' immediately ]
Next , a lot of these girls will simply be strolling about. Simply make eye contact with them & gauge their reaction
Most amateur women learn quickly in Vegas that making prolonged eye contact is virtually an Invitation to Sex , so they'll avoid it ; while the Week·End Warrior will be happy to hold your gaze , and then start walking with you
Good Luck and Happy Hunting !!
Does anyone know if the California Hotel is good for bringing woman to the room, and does anyone have any contacts for me?
No car, weekend of oct 16-18.
EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to add standard capitalization throughout the text. To avoid delays in future reports, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no capital lettering. Thanks!
Mets Fan II
09-29-04, 16:38
Was in sin city over the weekend. Checked out a strip club called striptease down by the rio casino. Pretty good overall, lot a lot of pressure from the girls to go for dances every 2 seconds.
A quick warning on the private club named "Indulge" (it is an unmarked storefront) on Industrial Rd. in Vegas (right across from the Budget Suites and between the Can-Can Room and Saphires). It is a pure rip-off joint. You get NOTHING, unless you think just sitting next to a gril on the couch is worth $50. A Taxi driver took us there swearing you got FS. You don't even see and skin. I see that was a warning on this forum in March of 2003, but I would never have seen it except I searched for the name "indulge" -- I would not have read 18 months work of posts. Can't believe they are still in business ripping people off.
ClitCommander
09-29-04, 18:18
Greetings,
Just out of curiosity, there are a number of entended stay type establishments along Boulder Highway. Each offering weekly rates and well as monthly. For example, the various Town and Country Manors and Budget Suites littered all the way up to Tropicana and Boulder. Do you locals (or frequent visitors) know of any action near or maybe SW residing near that stretch? It seems if you work along those strip of motels, staying at one of there would be advatageous to business.
Thanks in advance.
CC
Desert Dude
09-29-04, 20:00
CC,
One of my trop/ind faves [sunshine] moved up to one of those, at trop/boulder [sportmans?]. I didn't see other sg's there, but i'm sure they are living there. Saw a bunch at the Budget Suites once, the one on the east side of Boulder. In general, I would say go for it. In my humble opinion, approaching on foot is much safer than car, and gives both parties a chance to do some prelim chatting before making a move. I would say go for it!
Lk Tahoe NV
09-29-04, 20:07
ClitCommander,
As a former Las Vegas resident monger for many years and visitor at least once every other month for over 10 years, I can attest to the areas along Boulder Highway from Boulder Station to Tropicana as being a good SW stretch. Many of the budget type places, including the apartments, along the stretch have produced very well for me.
It is, however, my opinion that staying at one of them and walking down Boulder is not necessarily a good idea unless you are into walking long distances as the SW ratio is not that great and there are big distances between the properties. With a car though you can cruise the stretch in about 10 mins. depending on how many lights you hit and there are tons of places to swing around.
What I have found is that taking a ride through the parking lot of the larger budget places results in running into a SW once in a while too. Either they are just coming out and haven't made it to the street yet or they are too afraid of LE and don't walk the street.
Hope this helps. Stay safe out there.
Vegas Life
09-29-04, 20:32
Hey all,
I received quite a few PMs about my report and tried to return them all but some mailboxes were full so I'm posting the gist of what I said.
My cheap motel of choice is the world famous Del Mar, it's never let me down and it's always worth the extra drivetime.
The way I approach Trop / Industrial is to come into the intersection from the north. As the "radar" goes up as soon as I cross the intersection heading south. From the Chevron I drive south until I hit the hit the first right. If you make that turn, you'll see a pink and white adult bookstore. That's the end of my "run". I don't go any further because I generally don't want to attract attention.
So at this point I either see something or I don't. If I see something, I pull into the adult bookstore parking lot, wait a few minutes and pull back out and head to Industrial and take a left. From there I'll pull into the motel parking lot on the SE corner of Trop and Indy and park again.
I'll get out and make like I'm walking inside while I'm checking across the street for anything out of the ordinary. You guys know what I mean. I have no problem waiting 20, 30 minutes. Better safe than sorry.
Part of the reason my "run" is short is because the smaller the area the easier it is to see if there's something wrong because you're more familar with it.
And I wasn't able to get digits on my lil' pink mini skirt. I'm gonna be looking for her again though and perhaps she'll give the numbers up then.
10safe0sory
09-29-04, 23:00
Last night, Tuesday, LE was out in force, big time. Super caution was the byword. What was out there went quickly and so I struck out, which as many of you know about me, is no big deal. Tomorrow will always bring another day. Its been hit or miss for the last two weeks. Have seen some lookers but they go too quickly for a cautious old fart like me. My legs still go, just not nearly as fast. Some still sending up red flags with all those fancy manuvers with the cars. Stay smart, stay safe.
This past week I have been driving around this town and I have seen many sw's. They have been on Boulder from Henderson to LV Blvd the most concentration has been around Charlston and Maryland. And also from Sahara, Paradise, Twain and Maryland. I have seen plenty at all times of the day. Watch out there is a high police presence along Twain, there most have been a big raid Tuesday afternoon.
Hello Fellow Mongers, I am travelling to Vegas this Sunday for 3 nights and need some help.
I have read several pages on the Vegas board and have found a lot of the information to be very helpful.
My objective is to find a relatively inexpensive SW or CG either on the strip, downtown or closeby for a decent full service experience. My budget is $ to $.5 at the most. I don't necessarily need a 8 or 9 CG, a 6 or 7 will do just fine.
Based on what I have read, it is really hit or miss with CGs and most of the nicer casinos have CGs around the bars. It may be a little easier to get a better deal with a CG as it gets later at night or early morning. As for SW action, most of the action is on the side streets or downtown. Doesn't look like there is take out available at the strip clubs but looks like good mileage and good grindage.
Is there anything that I am missing? I am staying at the Paris Hotel and will have a car if that helps. Thanks in advance for your help. If you are ever in Chicago I can reciprocate.
Downtown tourism for Southpaw, Tang, etc.
I go downtown becuase I have the same taste in casinos that I do in women: dark, cheap, and easy.
For some perspective, crime in Vegas sometimes becomes a spectator sport for those who live in the area and observing it is popular recreation for some of us as a substitute for a major league franchise, but I actually believe that my safety is more at risk navigating the carnage on I-15 or Hwy. 95 than inside the most scruffy of the old downtown hotel/casinos. Some of the streets of the city outside the casinos are another matter, but most visitors never go there, and most crimes in the tourist areas involve petty sneaky thievery aided by spectacular foolishness from the victim, so bring a little bit of your sense with your dollars and don't go walking around with a fat wallet bulging out of your back pocket while half drunk staring up at the Fremont light show and you'll be safer than many visitors. I cannot remember when I last felt personally threatened inside one of the old casinos. I'm sure there must have been a moment or two in the past several years, but I can't remember one offhand. Stuff does happen when people get drunk and careless in ways they wouldn't back home, but in my opinion the issue with the low end casinos is usually a matter of aesthetics and personal taste more than actual safety; some visitors would find the folks addicted to the slots in some of these frayed carpet joints unattractive and feel uncomfortable for the same reason some suburbanites don't like to go to K-Mart to buy their socks and undershirts.
I've heard of guys hunting SWs downtown on foot, but I don't understand how they do that without it becoming an unpleasant ordeal. There is no streetcorner you can count on walking up to and taking your pick of flavors as there once was, so we are talking about hunting SWs in the Las Vegas version of skid road, just as you might in any city, and I can't easily picture doing it without a car. People walking in the area of downtown east of LV Blvd beyond the canopy over the pedestrian mall of the "Fremont Street Experience" usually have no choice to do otherwise. The strip is different.
Southpaw, among the three hotels you are now considering, my highly opinionated judgment is that the Las Vegas Club has both the least expensive and the best accommodations, but not in the same rooms. It's a relatively small place by Vegas standards, while not so small that everyone will be in your business, but it has two towers with rooms that are very different. I find the north tower rooms to be quite comfortably furnished and in good condition, maybe equivalent to a middle-income tourist class hotel such as a Holiday Inn or Best Western. The south tower was clearly overdue for remodeling sometime in the last century, and the accommodations in it resemble the dorm room of an impoverished college student after a party with his frat buddies. I think that may be exactly who they market them to: students impressed with the idea of getting a hotel room of their very own without their parents. It really looks as if someone made a quick trip to Goodwill with a pickup truck and grabbed some old broken patio furniture for ten bucks. Booking direct with the hotel you can get a midweek rate of twenty-nine bucks for the south tower or thirty nine for a room in the north. In my opinion the north tower rooms are worth more than twice as much as the south, and you may want to be sure of which you are getting if booking through a third party. If they don't specify, they are probably putting you in the south tower. I have never seen anyone screening guests at the elevators, but you will be crossing the casino floor no matter what entrance you use to get to the elevator banks. I have never found that to be a problem. Many of those California college kids staying in the south rooms consider it fashionable to dress like a hooker, so your girlfriend du jour should blend right in if she can behave herself in public a bit.
The Plaza right across the street is the largest hotel downtown. Not the tallest (Fitzgerald's) or the most noted (Golden Nugget) but the most rooms and casino floor footage. I find the rooms slightly shabby but a good deal when they book them for a midweek rate of thirty bucks or less as they often did until recently. I find them a poor deal when their rates approach the north tower at the Las Vegas Club. I know of some people who are horrified by this place, and also have had guests in my room who were wowed by how nice they thought it was. Those who thought it was great were probably reacting to the fact that some rooms have views and they are larger than most hotel rooms, including many on the strip. I describe it as slightly shabby becuase there will commonly be a knob missing from a drawer or two or a wallpaper seam that has puckered up or a stain on the otherwise clean carpet. The Greyhound bus depot is actually on the property, and some of their guests arrive that way, but most of their customers are drive-up visitors from neighboring states, with little fly-in traffic. The bingo parlor is the most popular part of the casino, if that helps you figure out the atmosphere of the place. The south tower elevators are just a few steps from the parking garage elevators, while the north tower elevators are all the way across the casino near the registration desk.
The Plaza actually has an informal "househo" named Mary. Mary circulates discreetly among several of the old downtown joints, but always starts her workday in early evening at the round bar near the race and sports book. She might have been quite a looker at one time, but she is pushing forty, and would look like a middle class housewife if middle class housewives paid more careful attention to their appearance. She always dresses as if she was going out to dinner at a nice restaurant, and keeps a very trim figure, but has no breasts at all. She is a lush, so if you offer to buy a drink for a slender brunette at the bar and she says "no thank you" it is definitely not Mary. I have not employed her services myself, but she quotes an over-optimistic C-note before quickly dropping to fifty. I saw a tourist present her with a dozen roses once while the bartender swallowed a chuckle, so I guess at least one gent had no complaint about her companionship.
It's been longer since I've been in the Lady Luck, but I recall feeling that the old "Garden Tower" rooms would be depressing to use for more than a night's sleep becuase they were dingy and claustrophobic, while I have no particular memory of the tower rooms, so I guess they must have been unremarkable and adequate.
Hoodas, my friend, let me help you with this matter:
Vegas is not really a town to do on the cheap. Most everything here is expensive. My suggestion is get yourself a girl at one of the stripclubs. Not Olympic Gardens, or the Crazy Horse...go to one of the smaller ones. As I've said before, my personal favorite is the Glitter Gulch.
The reason is is that once it starts getting late, the girls start looking for extra action. I've had some hot strippers for just 2 or 3 Bens. Now that may seem like a lot of money, but look at it this way...Vegas, like I said, is always more expensive. Secondly, an escort is gonna charge you way more...an agency fee, a bodyguard, and who knows what you're gonna get. Maybe ripped off.
A club stripper isn't gonna rip you off. You know where she works. Also, its bad for business if it gets around. And you can take your time, get a few laps, and check out the goods. But I usually let them bring the subject up. If I'm buying a few laps, showing interest and tipping well, they usually know if its safe to make a move. When I start getting those "Where are you staying?" and "Are you here alone?" questions, then I know its a go.
Also IMHO, I would stay away from Vegas SWs. They're like LA SWs...crack hos and nasty bitches. But some guys like that.
PsyberZombie
10-01-04, 06:21
A Fool wrote =
[ A SC called 'Indulgence' ] is a pure rip-off joint. You get NOTHING, unless you think just sitting next to a gril on the couch is worth $50. A Taxi driver took us there swearing you got FS. You don't even see and skin.
You obviously missed my post at 09-18-04 07:58 , AF
It begins =
*** Why you do NOT want to let a Cab Driver 'help' you find some Action in LV ***
It's pretty safe to assume that all the smaller clubs on Industrial are ripoff joints. There are the obvious legit clubs like CH2, Sapphires, DejaVu or even Wild J's which was pretty good once upon a time. Avoid all the others at all costs -- especially CAN CAN ROOM and HOT BODIES, or any other "unmarked storefronts".
I suggested to Jackson the possibility of creating a thread specifically for RipOff Joints in Las Vegas to make first time visitors aware of potential hazards. A thread such as this could certainly arouse some biased attacks on certain legit clubs, but I think the majority of the posters will be able to control the bullsh_t from truth. Jackson, please give it some thought -- we need it. These guys have been in business long enough.
Norman Stormin
10-01-04, 08:07
Heynow,
Don't worry about the police. They are there to protect YOU from all the drug dealers and pimps. All the LE activity you saw around Twain was because they found a stiff in a trash dumpster. The poor guy was probably some monger from Des Moines who hadn't read the Forum.
Stormin
Wastrel, nice report on the downtown hotels. I can vouch for the Plaza. It isn't the best hotel in Las Vegas for sure, but it's certainly nice enough to stay for a week without feeling uncomfortable by any means. That's where I stay most of the time when I'm on a tighter budget spur-of-the-moment visits to Vegas, and I find it quite pleasant and nice enough to do the trick. High traffic right on the west end of the Fremont Exp, very safe even late at night.
I've had a countless number of girls march straight up to my room without any type of security giving them a hard time. If they walk in from the South (Valet-Parking) Entrance, the elevators are mere steps away from the door, perfect for any type of "appointments" you may set up for an encounter in your room. The last ones I had come knocking on my door were two strippers from CH2. They marched right up together without any problems at all, in very stripper-esque outfit tops no less (with jeans). Even on the north end (the elevators by the check-in) shouldn't be much of a problem. I've walked straight through past the dopy guy sitting there numerous times with a girl without any type of "look" or hassle. No need to flash your room key either.
I would stay away from the Golden Gate Hotel, just across the street. You can walk straight to the elevators from the west side without being noticed at all, but what a hell-hole. I detest the rooms there, the beds sink in, squeeks, the walls are paper thin, and the piping echoes throughout your entire room when someone next door takes a shower. Awful experience. I've had a number of girls meet me in my room there as well though, so in that respect, it was fine. I don't think you should have a problem with security vs girls in most of the downtown hotels in Vegas unlike the big ones down further south.
Mets Fan II
10-01-04, 18:24
Was in vegas over the sept.24th weekend and saw plenty of girls walking the strip between harrah's and I.P. Was quoted by one girl $$, but politely declined. Also inside I.P. some were working the bar area. Hope this helps.
Mets Fan II
Wastrel,
Great posts, very informative, and extremely funny! I will have to buy you a drink next time I come out there. I really miss the old down town before the "Fremont Street Experience". Its been since the 80s that I stayed down town, lately been out at the Rio and frankly I am tired of the strip. Will be staying downtown next time I head out there.
Anywho, stay safe, thanks for the laughs.
GettingTang
10-02-04, 03:33
Wastrel
Thanks for taking the time for a very well written and detailed report.
However, with your education level of the downtown area, one can conclude there is no real action, just outside the downtown hotels, that one can attend to on foot.
I have always rented a car while in vegas. Guess, I better continue to do so.
Tang~!
Dick in Shape
10-02-04, 22:24
Mr. Wastrel,
You are an Ace!
Wonderful entertaining reports; we ALL owe ya a beer at least.
Keep 'em coming.
Thanks,
Dick
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