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Country Boy #3
01-02-05, 18:00
I found a sweet WSW Saturday night in Brooklyn. Goes by Angie or Slim. By far the best looking girl I have ever seen out "walking". .5 for FS. Great BBBJ. We need to take care of this one.

Alex P Keaton
01-03-05, 14:57
We need to take care of this one. If she provided you with a way to contact her, I'll "take care of" her when I'm in town for business next week.

Chicagomax
01-04-05, 19:35
I found a sweet WSW Saturday night in Brooklyn. Goes by Angie or Slim. By far the best looking girl I have ever seen out "walking". .5 for FS. Great BBBJ. We need to take care of this one.Where in Brooklyn? Was she down by the strip joints up walking up and down 3 by the Charter School(old tech building)? Hard to imagine any decent looking broads along there. Do you have a better description?

Country Boy #3
01-05-05, 12:08
She's about 5'6", 105#, dirty blond hair, mid 20's. She was walking north on Rt 3 in front of the Platinum Club. A real nice change from what I have been seeing. I hope we can keep her around.

Chicagomax
01-05-05, 18:22
Well I will be looking for her. It sounds like she is out at night. I have noticed that the days girls are usually different than than night girls. Except down by Lee's wash rack cause the same skanks there are out there no mater what time of the day or night. (except of late)

Jannisary
01-11-05, 01:37
I was back in your area again friday and thought I'd take another look around.

Started up Rt3 from the exit up and headed for Brooklyn. Didn't see anything at the wash rack, and no girls around the clubs in town. Just on the north edge of Brooklyn I did see one BSW but she did not look worth stopping for. I went thru Venice and up to the motels by Chain of Rocks and still didn't see anything. It was worth it just though just for the chance to scope the mentioned areas out in daylight.

I turned around and headed back down Rt3. Cruised around Brooklyn again by the clubs and didn't see any prospects. Headed down Rt3 again and turned onto 9th Street/ Collinsville Rd. I saw another BSW but didn't get a good look at her, thought about going around the block but instead i just kept cruising along. Took some time to scope out the location of the Relax Inn and a couple of other cheap motels I then turned onto the Kingshighway and headed for Washington Park.

My first stop was at the Hollywood Club. A very nice club with really pretty girls. Spent too much time and a little too much money there and then I was off to check out the Chamelon Club. Wow, what a dive! I was the only customer too, i just about turned and left but there was one black girl working who was actually kinda pretty. I bought her a drink and we sat and talked a bit. She's got a decent body and i enjoyed her attention as she tried to convince me take her to the back room. She wanted thirty for the back room and seventy-five for some conversation. I politely declined, tipped her and took off. Why would anybody in their right mind pay 1.05 for service there when they can get the same thing at C-Mowes for .5? Based on what i saw of the club, the backroom of the Chamelon can't be that good. Has anyone ever been back there?

Next stop C-Mowes. The last time I was there I was not real impressed. Maybe this time I was just hornier but there seemed to be some better looking girls working this time. Met up with a decent looking blonde with long hair, talked for a bit and then headed to the back for some fun, cbj for .5. I've got to agree with Carb that while it was good, I just didn't find the experience to be that satisfying especially in comparsion to an escort. But for an out of towner just looking to relieve some stress, this place isn't too bad. Seems safer than picking a girl up off the street.

Joe Slow
01-28-05, 23:43
I cant believe it ! I wonder what happend

Bandit69
02-11-05, 02:29
Stopped by the other day around 3 in the afternoon and things have changed since my last visit. Girls are still super skanky (even pregnant) but when I inquired about a private dance from an older heffer I was quoted .6 for cbj and .10 for fs. All this appears to happens in a 2 room closet where the old Harley used to be. Talent was sub par so I hit the road.

Country Boy #3
02-18-05, 16:37
Has anyone seen Angie aka Slim around Brooklyn. She's about 5'6", 105#. mid 20's white. Real cute, and alot of fun.

Alex P Keaton
02-23-05, 17:41
When I was in last week, a BJ was still going for $.5 and FS was still $1. More girls than in the past are doing only CBJ's, but I got a BBBJ from one without even having to ask. It seems to me like they're enforcing the two-song time limit in the private dance area (the little two-seater closet-like room) more strictly--the girls tell the bartender when they're about to go in, they go in at exactly the beginning of a song, and two songs later they hurry to tell the bartender that they're out.

Jannisary
02-24-05, 18:29
When I went to C-Mowes the girl tried to sell the cbj for .6 but I just told her my "friends" had told me they just paid .5 and she didn't argue about it. She also didn't tell me about the two song limit for the backroom, but that does explain some things.

Roady1
02-25-05, 07:47
.5 for cbj is what I've always heard. I've been quoted .1 for FS but never paid it. It's almost like a joke there. They can spot the newbies and the out-of-towners by the guys who bite at .1. My experience has been that the girls will move to .8 rather quickly. I was in there not long ago in the early afternoon and chewed a girl down to .7 for FS. If I was you and was quoted a price of .1 for FS and the girl was firm on it, I'd move on to someone else.

Alex P Keaton
02-25-05, 17:20
Yes, prices are negotiable. I've gotten a BJ for as low as $.4 (and I finished on her face at no extra cost). It depends on the girl. For example, there's a girl there now named Rosie who says that her prices start at $.7. Maybe she really can get customers to pay that, because she's a young skinny little thing in a club filled mostly with older and larger girls.

Jannisary
02-26-05, 01:36
How strict are they about the two song limit at c-mowes? What I'd really like is some private "dances" that progress into a BJ or FS, something not so rushed. I'm definetely checking the place out again on my next trip.

What about Ms Kitty's? The one time I was there I got a hj but have heard other extras are available. The back room I was in had semi private booths but it seemed too open for much to be going on.

With the weather improving, has anyone seen much on the streets?

Roady1
02-26-05, 02:22
They are pretty strict about the two song limit at c-mowes. It's more the house coming down on the girls that they girls themselves since the girls always check in with the bar tender before and after using the room. I'm sure the house bills them for the use of their facilities and it's more money for the bar the faster they can turn that room over so they keep a close eye on it.

You may not realize it but there is often a line to use that back room. Granted you won't see people standing around but they are waiting at the bar and at tables.

Chicagomax
02-28-05, 11:02
The RT3 area is very dead and has been for several weeks. The only sw's I have seen are some of the regular hardcore skanks that are usually out. No new gals at all.

Someone mentioned a new girl sometime back but I have never seen her. I travel that are about 6 times a week at different times and nothing.

Alex P Keaton
02-28-05, 17:46
What I'd really like is some private "dances" that progress into a BJ or FS, something not so rushed.Then the best thing for you to do would be to get some attention from the girl while she's onstage (a couple of dollars for her to grind in your lap and let your hands roam all over her body) or while she joins you at a table (buy her a drink and she'll rub you through your clothes) until you're aroused enough, then take her into the private dance room for two songs of BJ or FS.

Tororojo
03-01-05, 21:26
Sat. morning, 0630, found a wsw by the school. about a 6, good bbj for $25. usually see nothing at that time of day. she must have had a slow night.

Alex P, same from CRT board? If so, I met you in CR. Remember Gordos B-day dinner? I go by Dog there, didn't know you were from this area.

Travel Guy
03-02-05, 10:35
I hope you can help me out. I'm in the NW Indiana area and was reading about the good things at C-Mowes, but looking at a map I cant find Brooklyn. Could someone please give me directions. Thanks.

Bishop69
03-02-05, 11:05
Travel Guy,

If you are in NW IN you are in the middle of some of the best action to be had at local strip clubs so save yourself a trip over the border and try exploring your own backyard maybe try Shangre-La, P & M, or the bookstore.

Yet Another Guy
03-02-05, 17:30
I hope you can help me out. I'm in the NW Indiana area and was reading about the good things at C-Mowes, but looking at a map I cant find Brooklyn. Could someone please give me directions. Thanks.

Look Southwest - WAY southwest - in Illinois. Brooklyn is just across the Mississippi from St Louis.

Alex P Keaton
03-02-05, 18:35
Alex P, same from CRT board? If so, I met you in CR. Remember Gordos B-day dinner? I go by Dog there, didn't know you were from this area.Yep, I remember you from SJO. I moved away from STL a couple of years ago, but I'll be moving back later this year.

Fred Reed
03-05-05, 09:39
About three weeks ago I spotted a new girl at Lee's Wash Rack. She was a skinny blonde with brown eyes and probably in her late teens. Cute face! I pulled up to the curb and she got in my car. She said that her name was Jessica. Jessica was willing to do just about anything for $30. The only problem was that she wanted to take care of business behind the wash rack. I don't do anything near the wash rack and she refused to go to another location. So I put her back out on the street. I have not seen her on the streets again. So far, Jessica is the only new girl I have seen on the street this year.

Happy Hunting!

Fred

Winddance1
03-08-05, 10:57
Hi guys, just wondering if you could take the rt. 3 exit off I-64 to get to the washrack. How far down is it, or is it better to get off from 270? Thanks.

Tororojo
03-10-05, 23:28
From 270, it's about 10 minutes to the Washrack.

I guess it depends on where your coming from.

Winddance1
03-11-05, 11:01
Would like to take the stockyards exit off I-64. Would that be a mistake. Going to be in the area tuesday and looking for some action. Any leads pm me. Thanks. Senior member here with lot's of good info on Nashville.

Jannisary
03-11-05, 16:10
winddance

Just head north on Rt. 3 from the I-64 exit like you're heading toward Brooklyn. Its on the west side of the road.

If you scan back through the older posts you'll find plenty of information about the wash rack. I know, especially now with the server problems, that its a pain to read through a bunch of old posts but there is a lot of info there and those posts can give you a better picture of the area than I can ever hope to.

Member #3213
03-15-05, 17:38
East side adventures:

Crystal Palace:

Brooke-white, early- to mid-30ish brunette, with natural rack, and beautiful shaved pussy; works primarily day shift, M-F; received F/S and DATY for 4 songs in the private dance area.

Shelby-white, early 20ish, brunette, nice rack, bad acne face up close, but looks decent from a distance in the dark; promises the moon and stars, delivers NOTHING-don't waste your time or money on her; works primarily night shift.

Crystal-white, 30ish, blonde with nice rack and VERY nice shaved (arent't hey all shaved at the strip clubs anymore? LOL) pussy; paid for 4 songs last time ( a week and a half ago), got to ALMOST DATY on the 2nd song, from there it was all her fingering herself and letting me lick her finger; don't waste your time or money;

PT's Centreville:

Becky-white, brunette, late 20s-early 30s; awesome natural rack; decent face and body; 4 songs and DATY and self-serve on her ass while she watches in the mirror; primarily works dayshift;

Michelle-white, brunette, 20ish; tiny rack and petite body; very much a schoolgirl look that will make you feel like you are with a real teenager; 4 songs and self-service on her back while she gyrates in front of you; don't waste your time or money;

Miss Kitty's:

Mandy-white, blonde, 19 or 20 (can't remember), NICE rack with both nipples pierced; shaved pussy; 3 songs in private area yielded DATY and F/S; last time this happened was back in September, and she has since left Miss Kitty's; if anyone knows of her, please post up;

Streetwalker action:

Drew-previously mentioned in this thread; blonde, young, shaved; great service when she first hit the scene, but the last time I partook, in December, she was hurried and and a little jittery; appears to be a crackhead now, but was probably a champion lay back in the day; 40 gets it all, but make sure you COVER IT;

That's all for now. Got myself in the mood, so I'm going out on a little search and find mission now. :D

Happy Hunting!

Winddance1
03-15-05, 18:00
Ok guys, tell me what I'm doing wrong here. I'm an experienced hobbyist here and thought I knew how this game worked. Took the day off today to go to Brooklyn to check out things

Started in Brooklyn, saw 1 wsw, really dirty looking and nothing else. Went over to Washington Park, nadda. Tried Miss Kitty's, parking lot with about 10 cars there but only 1 older guy there drinking beer. No dancers anywhere to be found, a couple of ladies at the bar but totally ignored me.

Next went to S & L rub I've read about in Brooklyn. Nice looking younger girl, Jules, about a 6 or 7. Prices quoted. hj starting at $$ , cbj starting at $$$$ and full service staring at $$$$$$$$, yes, that's right 8.

So, what gives, said this was the standard price for all the ladies. I think she's nuts. Help me out here, did I miss something. She did finally offer to come down to $ for cbj but by then was out of the mood.

Fred Reed
03-15-05, 21:24
About 6:30am, I found Angie walking along Rt 3 between Venice and Brooklyn . Anglie was wearing a black jogging outfit. She quoted me $50 for BJ & FS at a nearby Hotel. Angie gave a really good GFE experience for about 3 hrs of fun. Be careful, She's really horny today!

Fred

Big KC
03-16-05, 01:12
Winddance1,

Try C-Moes cbj .50 some girls will stop at the end of two songs and tell you that your time is up. Find out the rules before you go back.

Roady1
03-16-05, 07:25
What seems to be the best time of day for SW action on Rt 3? I've been over there several times cruising but never found anything. Maybe I don't know what to look for (I mean besides crazy women walking around yelling at cars as they drive by).

Can anyone here offer any tips on the Chain of Rocks area. It's been a while since someone has posted about that area or the Hardee's that is up there.

I've also seen people mention girls working out of some of the motels up there. I check them out every time I go by, but I haven't seen anything. What time of day is best and/or what parking lot is best. Any tips on what protocols should be followed would be greatly appreciated.

So far my hobby has been taking me back to C-Mowes each time I venture out. I'd like to try tapping some other resources in the area but I seem to be having trouble finding any.

Bend It
03-16-05, 10:33
Can't really say about the streetwalkers in Brooklyn, they always looked too skanky/strungout for me. But I've not spent alot of time looking either.

As for S & L, they are pricey. I've been there a couple of times, had a good experience with one (for a reasonable price), then the second time, got a b***h with attitude, kept upselling, forget about it. Never been back.

Another place you didn't mention is the Pink Slip. I've always had a good time there, you can see my previous posts. High-mileage dances. I've usually gone in the mid-afternoon, its pretty slow then, a few guys having beers, and usually some good looking sistas with big 'ol titties looking to do what they do best. Its take out, costs $50 to get them out, then you gotta have someplace to go (can get cheap notels nearby for about $30) then you gotta negotiate with your ho.

I've heard that a cheaper option is to take them over to the video booth place and do it in the booth. Sounds sleazy, I likey.

Better luck next time,

Bend It





Ok guys, tell me what I'm doing wrong here. I'm an experienced hobbyist here and thought I knew how this game worked. Took the day off today to go to Brooklyn to check out things

Started in Brooklyn, saw 1 wsw, really dirty looking and nothing else. Went over to Washington Park, nadda. Tried Miss Kitty's, parking lot with about 10 cars there but only 1 older guy there drinking beer. No dancers anywhere to be found, a couple of ladies at the bar but totally ignored me.

Next went to S & L rub I've read about in Brooklyn. Nice looking younger girl, Jules, about a 6 or 7. Prices quoted. hj starting at $$ , cbj starting at $$$$ and full service staring at $$$$$$$$, yes, that's right 8.

So, what gives, said this was the standard price for all the ladies. I think she's nuts. Help me out here, did I miss something. She did finally offer to come down to $ for cbj but by then was out of the mood.

Member #3213
03-16-05, 10:52
I went to S&L Rub once, last summer, and was not a satisfied customer by any means. I had a session with a Native American/Black girl from Oklahoma. Her name slips my mind at the moment. Paid the door fee, went to the room, she started a WEAK massage, and we discussed extras. She was a little overweight, but she smelled good, and her tits were nice, so I asked her to let me see the kitty, which she did, and it looked good, so I requested a 69. She wanted $$ for it!!! I declined, offered 75 for her to play with herself while I handled matters, which she accepted. I surprised her and popped on her leg, scaring the bejeezus out of her. I haven't been back.

A month or 2 ago, I saw a WSW VERY early in the morning in Brooklyn, near Roxy's. I'm guessing she might have been a dancer from one of the clubs looking for extra cash, because this girl was WAY too nice-loooking for the street and the area. That's the only early AM activity I have seen in that area though, and I didn't partake, but she was waving and giving all the right signals on drive-bys.

Happy Hunting!

Noplacetogo
03-16-05, 12:12
Its nice to know that things are looking up on the east side.

Big KC & Winddance1: C-moes has a strict 2 song limit in place. This is due to them being busted a couple of times by the local cops. The girls don't like the limitation, but they have no choice. You can see if they can arrange for the girl that is going up on stage to play 2 long songs. This can help things. My pick from this place would be Kelly. She is a cute short blonde. If she likes you she will show you a good time. If not, she will not do anything for you for any amount of money.

Roady: SW action seems to be quite dead lately. I vary my hunt times and I have found very slim pickings. As for the ones that hang out at the hotels, I have not had any luck as well.

Bend-it: I have done the booth thing at the video booth place. Yummy.

Fred Reed: Is angie only out in the mornings? Are there other times that she can be found? PM me if you know. Thanks.

Does anybody know of any places/providers that will let you take your time with them?

Happy Hunting all, and be safe.

Blades

Bandit69
03-16-05, 14:29
I went out last Friday and cruised the wash rack and just 1 skanky african american girl and did not stop. Went to Cmowes and got a private for 2 songs from a little blondie with decent tits who gave decent service. She told me about the 2 song limit. Lots of big girls working. If you look up between the room dividers in the private area you will see 2 infrared low light cameras watching your every move in there (look for the shiny box with the red glow). That is why the girls want you to sit a certain way. I think it is wrong for them to record like that. And what are they using it for?

Larks Tongue
03-23-05, 15:58
I have heard what happens at cmowes and I have been to the Hustler but I was curious to know if anyone has be to PT's Centerville and has gotten any special attention in the back lap dance area? Been there as a couple and fun happens on the dance floor area but was curious if anything else could happen for me and my lady.

B Mackey
03-25-05, 01:45
No extras that I know of at PT's in Centreville or Sauget. The privates are good but the girls are probably strictly warned about providing extras. I think the dancers at the PT's are better looking than at many of the area clubs.

Member #2613
03-25-05, 16:33
Hello gents,

I would like to ask some general questions. I will be coming to your area here in may. I would like to ask any information that you may think that I am worthy of. I will be around the afb section even if you tell me the parts of the forum to read no problem or just guide me the right way I am going to be doing my own research and posting as I come up with things. As I said I just need to be told what areas of the forum to read.

I thank you before hand on any helpfull informaiton.

2613

LowRad
03-31-05, 00:39
I always wondered if there was action around Scott. Seems really odd for if there is not some action.

Funinst
04-05-05, 05:02
Did some cruising thru Alton this last weekend. Not really much happening there these days. Jus saw a couple of WSWs at Ridge and 6th. The time was about 8PM Saturday night. There used to be SWs out all the time in Alton.

Member #3213
04-05-05, 16:18
Just got done visiting C-Mowes in Washington Park. The quality of girls in there has gone up CONSIDERABLY. Met a nice brunette who is shaved named Kimberly. Very nice girl, fun to talk to. She was upfront when I asked about private dances. Her exact response was, "It's 60 for suck, 80 for both, and you get 2 songs." Not bad. I offered 80 for FS and DATY, and she accepted. We went back to the room, which isn't much to brag about but it works, she put the condom on :D, and I DATY'ed one song, banged the other. Completion was on her stomach, I thought that was kind of sleazy so I liked it. :D

There were 2 or 3 other girls in there that were equal to Kimberly. She probably rated an 8 on the SW scale, 7 on the stripper scale. Had a few extra pounds, but nothing that prevented my weempy from being attentive to her fun spot.
Hope this helps, and Happy hunting!

Drrty

Two Nutts
04-07-05, 11:52
Hey neighbors to the west,

I'm coming your way in June. I would like to know the massage parlor scene for Collinsville area, if any at all.

Thanks,

Two Nutts (I'm not even sure I'm on the right board for This question.)

PM if you want.

Joe blow 2000
04-07-05, 17:40
Bandit 69,

The Wash rack has been dead for some time now! I would nt pick anyone up there too many le for my blood I rather wait at the park across the street some of the girls live back there and will drive by or walk by the park if they see make eye contact. doesnt always work and there are some slim pickin's but it is safer never seen le back there.

Roady1,

What time are visiting chain of rocks road?(this make a huge difference) If your mongering during the day or early night before 1 am dont the residents of the hotel will call the le on you! Wait till late night after 1am and park over by the semi trucks the more truck the better chance you have to find women or as my motto goes "follow the trucker the lot lizard will follow" also around that time the girls at granite city should be out if you drive around the bus station you may get lucky.

p.s

Get hambuger at hardee and wait in the parking lot make eye contact if they are working they will let you know !

Do not try flying j this is an up scale truck stop as far as I know

Fred reed

Angie I think I was with her before she was really skinny and horny. She is a screammer if that same girl I think she is. Does she have long brown hair,she wore alot of jewlery and smelled really good? If so PM me she is very nice!

By the way nice pics keep em comming !!

Funnist

Le pretty much chased the girls into hiding . But Not gone go down Mcclure street at night you should find what your looking for. Stay on the side street you will find something. Also late at night Garden street. Not the selection like before but there is fun to be had. Be careful of that stupid ass weed and seed program but you should be ok election are over .

It's good to be back!!!

Rugger115
04-07-05, 23:25
Had a pleasant evening recently at Hollywood. 5 dancers in the 7-8 range. Very friendly with their private dances. A tall blond with lovely fake tits, a brunette with big hips and small titiies, and a lanky red head with no tits but big nips.mmmm. played with all their tits - hands and mouth after asking if I could. All were very receptive. They rubbed me and got friednly but never crossed the line. Spent way too much $.

Headed off to Cmowes. 3 girls 3-4 range. A brunnete offered .5 for bbbj. She wanted 2 songs, but I got 3 out of her with a completion in her mouth. Finished the eveing watching sleazy dancers and drinking cheapish beer. Pretty nice way to spent 4 hours!

LowRad
04-10-05, 20:52
I stopped by for the first time today. 6:00pm or so.

Destiney was quoting me twice the going rate for a trip to the back. I told her I had been informed of better deals. She walked away saying good luck, see another dancer.

Oh well.

B Mackey
04-11-05, 01:17
Good job Low Rad at not paying more than what you should. After she goes home a few times with less than what the other Dancers she works with does maybe she'll start to rethink her pricing.

Bandit69
04-11-05, 10:06
Went by on Saturday and spent time with a really cute girl with tattoos of animal paw prints on her belly. She was hot and had the 60-80 price range for her dnaces. She was really friendly and quite cute. I forgot her name though. She says she works days only.

Ulysses 46
04-13-05, 19:15
Has anyone had any experience at Four Seasons in a shopping center in Belleville? Went there once months ago and was discouraged by the women, who all looked to be in their 40s or more. None was dressed in any revealing way, and the massage, though good, included no invitations to anything more.

The Skipper
04-17-05, 19:03
Made my first visit to C-Mowes last weekend (about 5 PM on a Saturday). Kind of a mixed experience, the drinks and admission are relatively cheap as are the drinks for the ladies, but the selection of dancers was mixed at best. There were a couple of dancers who I wouldn't have gone to the back with if they'd paid me. To each his own I guess.

I ended up getting BBBJ for 50 bucks from a dancer who didn't tell me her name and I didn't ask. I know I could have got it for cheaper but I don't like to haggle. Her technique seemed designed to get the job done as quickly as possible and it worked. The rooms in the back are set up with two chairs facing each other, I'm not sure how you work FS back there. Anyway I got what I went there for so can't complain.

Joe blow 2000
04-19-05, 01:37
Anyone have experience with the Soft Touch?

Is it worth it?

Alex P Keaton
04-20-05, 12:33
I ended up getting BBBJ for 50 bucks from a dancer who didn't tell me her name and I didn't ask.Although you didn't get her name, can you describe her? The trend over the past year or so has been toward CBJ's, so I like to keep track of which girls still do BBBJ's.

Kenrod
04-21-05, 10:05
Anything new, have not been thew in a while,any info would be good.

The Skipper
04-21-05, 17:51
Although you didn't get her name, can you describe her? The trend over the past year or so has been toward CBJ's, so I like to keep track of which girls still do BBBJ's.Nice unenhanced breasts, fairly slim (compared to the rest anyway), orangey hair, sort of chiseled features. She actually told me the BJ would be covered at first but when we got back there she went at it, so YMMV.

Carb
04-22-05, 18:24
I posted something a few months ago; thought it was awful, although I did get the job done. No disrespect but girls are all black, which I don't particularly like. Won't go back!

Carb

Joe blow 2000
04-26-05, 10:10
Thanks for your review Carb,

I also agree a varity is always better than just one flavor just like ice cream I like neopoliton too! I still may check it out to see how it is but there are more mp in this area than strp clubs so if it doesnt pan out it not that big a loss.

Country Boy 3
04-29-05, 04:17
I found a cute little gem tue. night at the wash rack. Goes by Jessica/Ashley. 5ft., 95lbs, sweet little body. She said she is 18. I took her to a pre-rented motel room, and got the works for $.5. She was nervous and shy, but a great find. She is very cute. She gave me the phone number for Lee's wash rack, and said to ask for her. I haven't tried it yet. It's in the yellow pages under trailer washing.

Joe blow 2000
04-29-05, 21:12
What's the deal with Fairmount?

Is there any action to be had there?

brwnilvr
04-30-05, 12:30
Been there many times no action on the street. Plenty of hourly motels with porn in the rooms for quick action.

Bonerfide
05-01-05, 08:02
Anyone with any experience with the 157 Spa next to VIP's in Ceneterville?
I poked my head in the door the other day. A couple of girls at the front desk 4-5/10 in looks. Quoted hourly rates were higher than VIP's. I don't know what kind of tipping rates they reqiure. I didn't see anything appetizing so I visited VIP and saw a girl named Chae? She is 7-8 in looks and provided very nice close to GFE service. It seems that a lot of asian chicks complain about size issues in order to avoid some positions, which I find irritating since I am not overly endowed. This girl was very enthusiastic in multiple positions.

Joe blow 2000
05-02-05, 13:47
Always wondered so close to Washington Park and East St. Louis, I wasnt sure!

Funinst
05-06-05, 12:50
I have not been there recently. I know it used to be run by the same people who ran the S&L Rub in Brooklyn. It always seemed to me that both above listed places always were overpriced for what they offered.


Anyone with any experience with the 157 Spa next to VIP's in Ceneterville?

I poked my head in the door the other day. A couple of girls at the front desk 4-5/10 in looks. Quoted hourly rates were higher than VIP's. I don't know what kind of tipping rates they reqiure. I didn't see anything appetizing so I visited VIP and saw a girl named Chae? She is 7-8 in looks and provided very nice close to GFE service. It seems that a lot of asian chicks complain about size issues in order to avoid some positions, which I find irritating since I am not overly endowed. This girl was very enthusiastic in multiple positions.

Explorer1
05-07-05, 04:18
Don't waste your time. The girls are overpriced and under perform. You can never go wrong with VIP. The majority of women are very receptive and I've never been dissappointed.

Ulysses 46
05-08-05, 08:34
I have a different take on VIP. When I was the first one there one recent morning, I met Yuna. Very pretty and probably in her late 30s or early 40s, but she wanted $$. We haggled and got down to $. Because I was the first customer of the day, she didn't want me to feel dissatisfied, she said. That would have made for bad luck fpr the whole joint.

But then I got nothing more than a cold, professional approach and a rush job. She refused DATY and was protecting her makeup and hair the whole time. Not at all what I'd been hoping for.

Hadn't been there for some time, and once again, I felt rushed and hustled.

When I used to see Sarah there several months ago, we had an understanding that meant it wasn't exactly GFE, but at least we got along well enough.

From my experience, VIP has never been as good as just about any place in Columbia.

Artman
05-13-05, 10:24
Hi guys! Decided to partake of the hobby last night when I lost some dollars at the Queen! Figured at least I would get something for my money. Anyway at times the streets were hot in ESL! Collinsville road had the usual share of BSW looking for their next hit and a couple of real skinny WSW. Saw a jewel near the hotel...btw I went and got some cash, she was gone. Did pick up nice one IN Brooklyn, Tara. She said that she didn't blow the whistle or hit the needle and saved everything and had just bought a house. In Brooklyn! Yeah, right. But she was clean and had her teeth, about a 6-7 on the SW scale. 1/2 a Ben, got a BBBJ and covered FS,(is there any other?), in MY hotel room. And good conversation, which is half the fun for me. Also saw a chick with a little something extra near the bridge, black "girl", unless you like a "girl" with what you got, I would n't touch it....

happy hunting!

ARTMAN

Joe blow 2000
05-14-05, 05:32
First off let me say the quality of women in this area has declined greatly.But I will try my best to give a fair and honest critic of the area given the material available.

Brooklyn

I was there Thursday I saw two bsw and one Wsw. All three were horrible looking the two BSW were unkemp no attempts what so ever to straighten them selves up of comb there hair. The wsw looked heroin sheek all skinny, brused up from the drive by.

I rank them 3 out of 10 stars and a yuck.

Wash Rack

One Wsw and one Bsw both were clean from the drive by and did not look to
be strung out but I did not partake as it was the middle of the day and I always felt that was a little to risky. I believe the Bsw prices were high as I seen her walk back across the street after a short conversation with a mongerer .

I rank a solid 6 out 10 stars

RT3

I saw on possible Hsw walking rt 3 she was oviously a c and h sugar smoker as she could barely walk a striaght line . She was even counting her money as she walked down the road which I thought was rather funny. Looks department she had a great shape plump butt nice face and tits. I would be leary of this one I later seen her walking a male associate so you will more than likey have to deal with him too!

I rank a solid 7 out 10 stars but watch your ass note

Club Rio Road

This used to be the spot for a easy ,cheap bj but time hasnt stood still here either. 4 Bsw 2 wsw the 4 Bsw ranged from skinny and nasty to fat and nasty none were appealing at all. The WSW were also just as shitty looking one was so skinny the wind could blow her over the other was just plain fat and nasty. the only plus is for 30.00 full could probably be had, if you want it!

I rank a solid 2 out 10 stars and a nasty yuck yuck!

I wll try to make another report out later.

Untill then, keep on mongering, baby!

Fred Reed
05-14-05, 06:48
Here's a photo of Tara walking along Rt 3 between Brooklyn and Venice.

Fred

Bandit69
05-17-05, 23:26
But you did get a face shot of the guy in the Chevy and he is looking at you do it.

Jimmy
05-18-05, 06:49
I think that I would delete that picture. The visible face and truck could get someone in some deep crap (at home as well as maybe elsewhere).

Noplacetogo
05-18-05, 10:31
I have a lot of good things to say about the women at C-moes. I know that some of you out there thing the girls are not that good looking, but if you haven't been there in a while you should check the place out again. There are a lot of sweet girls there.

Member #2613
05-21-05, 14:41
Hi gentz,

Please take a look at the following pictures and please tell me if you have any information about any of them. I know at least one of them works in one of the strip joints in this area. Any help will be greatly app.

2613

ILuvIt
05-22-05, 06:48
Member #2613,

Why are you asking for info on the same girls in St Louis, MO and Brooklyn, IL?
Are they traveling between cities as a group or something?



ILuvIt

Member #2613
05-22-05, 15:30
Member #2613,

Why are you asking for info on the same girls in St Louis, MO and Brooklyn, IL?
Are they traveling between cities as a group or something?

ILuvItAs I explained a while back, I am coming to ill. I will be very sad if I had nothing available. I found out that ST L is close by as well. The site where I got them from is actually in Saint Louis but there were two of this ladies that also work in brooklyn. I figure that ifI share the pics someone could tell me what club or if advertise in cl and most importantly if it is worth calling them or not.

Thanks guys,

2613

SickPuppy
05-24-05, 23:15
Meet a lady about mid 40 at hwy 3 and 270 shelly was her name did 1/2 and 1/2 for 50 not bad if she is out again would see here.

Asswatcher
05-27-05, 01:40
At the Pink Slip anything goes!

Alex P Keaton
05-28-05, 13:58
At the Pink Slip anything goes!Well, except for white women; white women don't go to the Pink Slip.

Country Boy 3
05-31-05, 17:43
I picked up Cherokee Mon. evening on 9th street, by the old Hillcrest Motel. She's white, mid to late 30's, dark hair, about 5'6", 120lbs. I took her to my hotel room where she asked for $1., I chuckled and offered $.4. We settled on $.5. Great BBBJ, then rolled one on, and got down to the good part. After about 5 minutes she said for another $.2 I could take the hood off and finish bareback. I was close enough I just finished. She said she lives in the Royal Inn on 10th street.

Chicagomax
06-01-05, 08:03
I was up and down RT3 several times yesterday due to business and saw nothing until late in the afternoon. In front of Lee's Wash Rack was a very young girl in a unbutton shirt dancing like a crack ***** and waving and everyone who was driving by. She may have been cute but I passed up on her her.

Up in Brooklyn I saw three girls around 5pm. A very thin black gal who was getting picked up evertime she was free for 30 seconds. A big fat nasty white chick with no teeth and an older skank in a multi colored body suit. I passed up on all three chicks.

MY buddy who lives over there told me that there is a really hot black chick with enhanced boobs running around the area at night. She was working the clubs but ger meth habit got her fired and now she is working the streets to get her bills paid. As anyone seen her?

He also told me that Brooklyn LE along with East St Louis and Illinois State LE are planning a major crack down on guys driving that stroll for sw's,. He did not know when but said it was goung to be a weekend cominng up soon. SO watch your ass.

Chicagomax
06-01-05, 23:03
I think some of you remember Niki from Brooklyn. She had a nice body with big fake tits but a so so face. I head today she is in prision for selling meth to undercover agents,,,I guess the dudes she was hanging with did her a favor.

Joe blow 2000
06-02-05, 04:32
Hey buddy,

Here's a easy way to find out.

http://www.idoc.state.il.us/subsections/search/default.asp

Chicagomax
06-02-05, 15:48
Hey buddy,

Here's a easy way to find out.

http://www.idoc.state.il.us/subsections/search/default.asp


I would need to know her real name or inmate number. Two reasons why that will not work. One I never want to get that close to a sw and second I do not really care. I was just passing on the info because so many people email me asking of I know where she is.

But thanks anyway.

Jasperab
06-02-05, 23:51
I drive a limo, and take a lot of bachelor parties there and hear comments from the guy's, but while working I don't ask questions. Friday night I will be in the area and not working for a change, and would like to know, whats available, and for what prices. Anyone who can give me a heads up, it would be appreciated. I prowled the West Bottoms, and Independence Ave. , and Main St. in KC for years, but I've been in the St Louis area for 10 years, and have scored a big "0", even with hints from this board. Did the same on a trip to Dallas two weeks ago, even with the help of areas on the board. Anyone PM me if you can help.

Thanks,

jasperab

Joe blow 2000
06-03-05, 05:48
You never know how deep some mongeres are with the girls. I know some of the sw even live with or have relationship with mongerers and have there real names and sometime help raise there kids. I m not saying you but some other may have that information and may find that sight to be useful . As for nicki more than likely that habit will jump back on her as soon as she is released and she will be back in action .Unfortunatly drug habits are lifelong dependentcies and you must be strong willed to break them. My point is this more than likely you will see her agian even if she is locked up just a matter of time .

Fred Reed
06-04-05, 14:01
I spotted a Brooklyn SW walking near Fairmont City today. I offered her a ride back to Brooklyn hoping to get some useful information. Said her name was Melinda, about late 30's or early forties. I asked her about Nikki, Angie and some of the other girls I met near Venice.

Melinda claims that Nikki simply decided to go home to her family. It was an effort to get off of drugs but Melinda is doubtful that Nikki will stay "clean" for very long.

Fred

brwnilvr
06-05-05, 07:47
Anyone ever visit the Discreet Motel at 800 St Clair Ave in E. St Louis? A friend told me about the place looks shady and closed you pull on the lot and the crack hos are there. Pay 20 for the room pick your ho and make your deal. Just wondering if it is safe to leave my car there while going in.

Fred Reed
06-05-05, 15:09
The Discreet Motel is relatively safe but it's too filthy for me. I have seen only two girls in 5 years that I would consider attractive in that place. The girls at the Wash Rack are usually better looking.

Fred


Anyone ever visit the Discreet Motel at 800 St Clair Ave in E. St Louis? A friend told me about the place looks shady and closed you pull on the lot and the crack hos are there. Pay 20 for the room pick your ho and make your deal. Just wondering if it is safe to leave my car there while going in.

brwnilvr
06-05-05, 22:20
I know he said the rooms where 20, but what is the normal rate for FS or BJ inside?

Abolten
06-07-05, 14:10
Anyone ever visit the Discreet Motel at 800 St Clair Ave in E. St Louis? A friend told me about the place looks shady and closed you pull on the lot and the crack hos are there. Pay 20 for the room pick your ho and make your deal. Just wondering if it is safe to leave my car there while going in.

I went there the last time I was in the area. At that time two crack ho's lived there, Red and Cherokee. I found Cherokee on the street and she said she had a place for us to go. That's where she took me. It was the most horrid place I ever seen. What possessed me to go in there I have no idea. The rooms consisted of a matress and junk all over the floor. I left my car outside without incident, although I was worried about it. She said she would do an hour of GFE FS for 60. When she got undressed I almost bailed. She had the most deflated set of tits I ever seen. We did DFK for 10 seconds and that was it. She wanted me to BITE her nipples but I wasn't into that. Then she put on a robe and said there was a family emergency and left. I got nothing for the $60. Then Red came into the room, put a rubber on me starting sucking me off without anything being mentioned about money. I stopped her since I had no more on me and and I didn't want any trouble. The place is a fricken rip off. Don't go there.

Bolten

Fred Reed
06-08-05, 01:04
Posted on Tue, Jun. 07, 2005

Autopsy of teen found in ESL shows she was strangled
Woman had record of solicitation
BY CAROLYN P. SMITH
News-Democrat

EAST ST. LOUIS - An autopsy Monday showed that a
teenager whose body was found Sunday was strangled.

Jennifer J. Vent, a 19-year-old who had a record of
solicitation arrests in East St. Louis, was found dead
Sunday near the intersection of North Ninth Street and
Winstanley Avenue in East St. Louis.

St. Clair County Coroner Rick Stone said Vent was
fully clothed.

Stone said the autopsy was performed at Kenneth Hall
Regional Hospital. He declined further comment.

The Illinois State Police Metro East Homicide Unit is
assisting the East St. Louis Police Department with
the investigation.

Vent first became known to East St. Louis Police in
2003 when they learned there was a warrant out on her
as a missing person.

"She was listed in our computer as a missing person
from Hillsboro, Mo. She had escaped while she was in
custody at a juvenile facility there," East St. Louis
Police Lt. Col. Lenzie Stewart said.

Vent was detained by East St. Louis Police and held
until Hillsboro Police picked her up, Stewart said.

She later returned to East St. Louis.

Police records show that Vent was arrested in May last
year for solicitation. Police records also reveal that
Vent had been hauled into the East St. Louis Jail at
least nine times for solicitation.

East St. Louis Detective Ricky Perry said people have
been interviewed about the case, but no one has been
arrested.

Authorities had three different addresses for Vent.

The St. Clair County coroner's office listed her home
at 845 Mildred Ave. in Cahokia, the Illinois State
Police said she lived in East St. Louis and East St.
Louis Police listed her address in Hillsboro, Mo.

Anyone with any information about this case should
call Perry at 482-6853 or Illinois State Police
Investigator Kelly Cullen at 346-3775.

Contact reporter Carolyn P. Smith at csmith@bnd.com or
239-2503.

brwnilvr
06-08-05, 20:15
Had to try it myself and what a joke. Some black chick with bad weave named Nichole wanted to service me but wanted money up front first then some fat black crack head wanted in. The place smells like old sweat socks the toilet was full of used rubbers and would not flush. Told them never mind and left. The guy at the door hit me up for smokes and a ride. Stopped on the way home to buy a flea collar for myself the place was so nasty. Don't mind paying up front but she said it would be a half hour before she could get with me and I was the only car on the lot. I did not want to wait for her to get high to service me.

Asswatcher
06-09-05, 15:35
Had to try it myself and what a joke. Some black chick with bad weave named Nichole wanted to service me but wanted money up front first then some fat black crack head wanted in. The place smells like old sweat socks the toilet was full of used rubbers and would not flush. Told them never mind and left. The guy at the door hit me up for smokes and a ride. Stopped on the way home to buy a flea collar for myself the place was so nasty. Don't mind paying up front but she said it would be a half hour before she could get with me and I was the only car on the lot. I did not want to wait for her to get high to service me.Yeah it's masty and a pure shithole!

Fred Reed
06-10-05, 19:55
I don't know how many times we have to tell guys that the Discreet Motel is filthy!

FWIW, all street walkers in the area live in the same or worst conditions. I know because I have visited the houses that some of them live in. That is why you should never DFK, DATY or do anything unprotected/bareback with these girls or you will be playing with your life!

Fred




Yeah it's masty and a pure shithole!

Voodoo Chile
06-14-05, 20:33
Gentlemen,

Was in Brooklyn the other day and noticed that the new place, Bottoms Up, was open. Anyone have a report on the place. I figure it is probably more like the Pink Slip than Roxy's, but could not check it out because I was on the clock. Maybe I can try it out soon when I am not working.

Voodoo

Josey35
06-15-05, 01:42
Gentlemen,

Was in Brooklyn the other day and noticed that the new place, Bottoms Up, was open. Anyone have a report on the place. I figure it is probably more like the Pink Slip than Roxy's, but could not check it out because I was on the clock. Maybe I can try it out soon when I am not working.

VoodooIs the Bottom's up the bar between Roxy's and the Pink Slip in Brooklyn. If so, I ventured in there on afternoon and found it pretty "high class" for Brooklyn. A very nice woman showed me the place and ended up sitting at my table. We did go into the "private area" but nothing unusual happened other than a lap dance with some rubbing. I left shortly after this as the place was empty and kind of boring. I would love to hear what I missed out on.

brwnilvr
06-15-05, 09:41
It is my understanding same guy owns if not runs the Bottoms Up and the Massage Parlors in Brooklyn and Centerville. So expect to be ripped off.

Winddance1
06-16-05, 09:55
Took a drive thru Brooklyn yesterday around noon. Only saw one BSW near the Pink Slip, thin, looked drugged out, was chasing my car flashing her tits at me trying to get me to stop. Nothing else happening that I could see.

brwnilvr
06-19-05, 14:42
Could not sleep so I thought I would drive through Brooklyn to see if I could get some late night action. It was around midnight and at least 5 LE was posted to local and 3 state so I made the journey on down to cruise Collinsville Rod and same thing LE everywhere. Be careful they are out in force for some reason.

Joe blow 2000
06-20-05, 05:08
Brwnilvr,

Could not sleep so I thought I would drive through Brooklyn to see if I could get some late night action. It was around midnight and at least 5 LE was posted to local and 3 state so I made the journey on down to cruise Collinsville Rod and same thing LE everywhere. Be careful they are out in force for some reason.

I read a article a bout a young girl that recently got slain in estl so I believe this is a reaction to the unwanted publicity the city sw's are getting personalily!

Lou
06-20-05, 23:06
I saw 2wsw and 1bsw on Collinsville Road today but didn't partake due to all the recent law enforcement presence. Anyone recognize these ladies?

NC Transplant
06-21-05, 23:51
You have some homely looking hoes up your way. None of them do anything for me.

Knucklebuck
06-22-05, 02:06
One time a co-worker and I were watching a special on Prostitution from around the world (we worked in an electronics store.)

Anyway, he was very familiar with the streets and commented that we need to start importing some ho's as the St. Louis variety were disgusting and looked nothing like the beauties from other parts of the world.

Fred Reed
06-22-05, 06:35
I recognize two of them.

The girl in picture "818Collinsville Road.JPG" calls herself Gigi and is a new face in the area.

"815rt3.JPG" is Heather. See my 4-2-05 post if you guys want a better look at her.

Fred


I saw 2wsw and 1bsw on Collinsville Road today but didn't partake due to all the recent law enforcement presence. Anyone recognize these ladies?

Joe blow 2000
06-22-05, 23:28
One time a co-worker and I were watching a special on Prostitution from around the world (we worked in an electronics store.)

Anyway, he was very familiar with the streets and commented that we need to start importing some ho's as the St. Louis variety were disgusting and looked nothing like the beauties from other parts of the world.Even if they do look half way decent they wont for very long every one on this board would tear it up till it looked like hell too!

Asswatcher
06-30-05, 23:30
Even if they do look half way decent they wont for very long every one on this board would tear it up till it looked like hell too!So true! It's pretty interesting how most of these women start out looking good, then the lifestyle/streets catch up with them! It's like that everywhere.

Joe blow 2000
07-01-05, 07:47
So true! It's pretty interesting how most of these women start out looking good, then the lifestyle/streets catch up with them! It's like that everywhere.I know! I hung out with this sw for a while and knew her whole story and one time she showed me her drivers license and she was beautiful in it I looked over across from me and granted she looked nice for a sw but compaired to the dl she looked like shit.
(given her story she should look a lot worse)But if you look at some these sw past pictures you would flip compaired to what they now look like. Some anyway other always look like hell.

Member #2613
07-09-05, 23:41
After a few weeks of research I have found a keeper. I dont know if this is the right place to report but here we go. I found this girl at one of the free local papers. At first I called her and she says taht she would do out call. for 150 I told her taht I all had was 60 some negotiation later we settle for 100 she described her self a being youthfull gergeous and captivating eyes. While I was getting ready she calls me back again and tells me that she is not going to be able to make it but we can get a room somewhere, for wich I have to pay. I figure well I am paying about 69 a day for my place. So I called off the whole thing. it was to square one again. I tryied calling the other girls but they were too far. I called her back and she tells me that we can meet somewehre and then we can drive to my place. I agreed and off I went. As I am driving to the especified location I see this tall white girl, inmediately I knew it was her. VErY pleasant surprice. She greets me with a big smile she was wearing this shorts and a skimpy blouse. Very attractive none the less. She has this eyes that you can look at for ever. She has curly dark red hair, natural by the way. She must be in her mid thirties but very well kept. On the way to my place she tells me that she is from cali and she did some porn at one point. That she had relocated and she used to work at the hustler club until recently. She proceeded to tell me some intil on some strip clubs with extras so that in it self was worth the 100. Upon arrival to my place I studied her body more closely. Let me tell you guys very NICE small boobs nice butt LONG legs as she is at least 6{2 tall that curly hair adds to the whole thing. She was very enthusiastic the whole time. I offered her a drink and she gladly accepted it and she casually drink it she was not worry about the time we chit chated for a bit longer and then we proceed to the bedroom. She starts stripping down and she reveals this granny panties with some writting on it, I was like what the fu, that is not sexie at all but those panties were not on for that long, when she took them off she receals a nice shaved kitten. Her legs went on for ever, did I mentioned she is very tall. To those that dont know me I am SHORT. She was perfectly fine with the height difference. I stripped down and went to bed she has a few tatoos but nothing that bad to break the deal. I tried to convince her for some BB action but she would not have it. So she starts a mechanical cbj while I played with baldie it almost seems taht she was getting in to it and she wanted to get to it but I told her that I really wanted her to stay down there a bit longer. She agreed and continued she does have some skills but not that good. I did like this thing she did with her throat it really felt good. I was very tempted to DATY but I refrained. then she wanted mish and I wanted to do the one leg on my shoulder and sitting on one leg and she had no objection she really does a great job I kept looking at her eyes and it really turn me on something about them. then we went to anohter pos and started sping her butt she liked that, or at least she did not mind it. After a while she got on Cow girl and thats when things started to get really fun I would lift my pelvis so she will feel the whole thing and she did ride it like she knew what she was doing. IT was a very nice experience I must say. When I first arrived here I figure that it would be very dificult, if not impossible to find something in this place. The I find this girl and she tells me what places to go and which ones to avoid so over all it was a GREAT experience.

2613

Country Boy 3
07-10-05, 19:27
I saw Ashley out at the wash rack Fri. night. I talked to her for a couple of minutes, but didn't have time to do anything. It looks like she's holding up pretty good. She is very cute and very petite.

Member #2002
07-12-05, 18:44
What is the contact info?

This sounds like vrigina slim from the rft?

Katfish991
07-13-05, 09:30
Hello,

Where is the wash rack, I've seen the sign Lee's wash rack but it's in the middle of a gravel lot. Oh what is the conact info and how much does she weight on the RFT post.

Steve

Bill Bradsky
07-14-05, 10:37
Hello,

Where is the wash rack, I've seen the sign Lee's wash rack but it's in the middle of a gravel lot. Oh what is the conact info and how much does she weight on the RFT post.

SteveSteve,

I'm not sure what your question is but here is the Virginia Slim ad from the RFT/backpage website:

PVirginia SlimP Las Vegas Show Girl Give me a chance and I'll Rock Your Wold. I do it all In & Out Call. Always hiring. 618-792-5xxx

Foxy All American, 21 yrs, White Women, Petite, Unique & Discreet & Ready to meet You. 618-973-9xxx

MARIAHc Latino Mix. 22 yrs. New in Town, Come to get down and if you're Serious give me a call. Ask about my special 618-363-2xxx

Member #2613
07-17-05, 21:54
I went on a recon mission today. I went to see some of the places that I was told half a mile north of flynt's. All places were closed except for this one place that has movies and novelties. I thought that they had some expensive movies 43 for a movie? is this the right price? well I was there for a little bit but I got the impression that there is a lot more to it than what I saw. I know they have some peep things but I was too new to ask for more questions. So, I only ask for any brazilian movies. The guy was not able to produce any so I left. My question is what is the real scoop in this place. I was able to veryfy the exact location of some of the places I was told that are worth checking out. The surrounding place is a bit shaidy. Does anybody have any information on this area.

2613

Bill Bradsky
07-21-05, 01:05
I went on a recon mission today. I went to see some of the places that I was told half a mile north of flynt's. All places were closed except for this one place that has movies and novelties. I thought that they had some expensive movies 43 for a movie? is this the right price? well I was there for a little bit but I got the impression that there is a lot more to it than what I saw. I know they have some peep things but I was too new to ask for more questions. So, I only ask for any brazilian movies. The guy was not able to produce any so I left. My question is what is the real scoop in this place. I was able to veryfy the exact location of some of the places I was told that are worth checking out. The surrounding place is a bit shaidy. Does anybody have any information on this area.

26132613,

You were in the beautiful city of Washington Park. Read all the way back on this thread and you'll see lots of info on C-Mowes and the rest of those dumps.

Use caution in that area.

BB

Username
07-22-05, 04:46
First of all thanks for all the straight forward info on this place people. In so many areas of the counrtry if something good is happening people don't post about it because they are afraid it will get shutdown.

To me that is silly ... LE does not need the help of a board like this. Any LE who made an arrest or bust from something they derived directly from this site should be ashamed of themselves, and probably fired for that matter, heh.

Anyway strictly for travel purposes for someone passing through, its been implied they are open day shift, but when does that start. Beyond that even if they open as early as say 10 or 11, is it even worth going there that early, or do girls not actually show up until 2 or whatever?

Also its been implied but I haven't seen it specifically stated, that there is cover/drink requirement. I'm just wondering what they cost. Thanks!

Big KC
07-23-05, 18:19
I West to C-moes Friday during the day. Looked like all of the same old woman there. I went to the back with one, did not get her name. I think that she is from Russia from her broken english. She has red hair and walks with a limp. She is one of the pretty ones. Nice fake boobs, firm body, and nice face. She asked for $. after it was done she said that I owed her .4 more. I looked at her like she was nuts and she said .2. I told her that all I had left was .15. She took it and left me alone. It was a good bbbjcim, she told me to cim. 1.15 is more than normal. I know of FS for .8 there.

Chicagomax
07-27-05, 10:21
ok i was taking a shortcut by lee's when i spotted this young busty dark hair chick. i decide to cut down the street back to the park and she heads my way. she jumps in and i almost freak out cause she looks 15. she tells me she is 18 and just graduated high school in denver last may.

she is about 5-5 120 pounds with dark hair and bug real boobs. her name is apple (?) and she is out working the streets cause she needs the money bad. i asked her if she was a cop and she laughed and showed me her tits, they were huge, round and looked real firm.

i still had a bad feeling and told her she had to get out she i did not believe for a second she was 18. there is no way i am going to get arrested for any **** thing. so if you see her you may want to avoid her. she was hot though

Ohio Man
07-27-05, 18:08
I recently had the pleasure of visiting St Louis on a business trip. Thanks to all of you for your great advice and resources so I knew exactly where to go and what to do when I hit the ground.

I headed directly to East St Louis - I drove up to Lee's and I was AMAZED at the activity there. I am from Ohio and we just don't ever see this many girls,let alone blatantly flagging down cars and beckoning people. Amazing. I cruised St Clair and was once again AMAZED at the volume of girls. I took a spins through the hood in that area and was accosted at every stop by dealers/pimps - not cool.

I hit some strip clubs in Brooklyn (Platinum and the one across the street from it owned by the same group) - they were "ok". The SWs in this area were downright
scary looking. I also spent some time in Miss Kitty's and C-Mowes. Miss Kittys was awful if you want to go and scope out dancers - it's almost all exclusively private dances and few dancers, if any, on the main stages. C-Mowes was the best in my book - but I prefer bigger girls and trashier women so this was right up my alley. I was able to sit at a table in the open with a girl, feel up her bare tits while she stroked me through my pants without doing anything more than buying her a drink. The info on the back room here is accurate. 2 songs, anything goes.

I spent some time with WSW Gigi (or Jasmine) from St Clair - her pic posted on here looks a lot heavier than when I saw her. I saw her out a few nights with a long black dress on (like an evening gown) with sandals. She is very cute, very sweet, young, and new to this - treat her well and she will be all yours (she has this innocent, seductive way of calling you "daddy" the whole time - enough to drive you nuts). I took her up to the Discrete Motel for a few hours of fun - no Greek and she wouldn't disrobe completely for me, but I got everything else, covered. She let me take pics - she was totally into posing for me...however, she didn't want me to post them or share them with anyone, so I have since deleted them.

In summary guys, East St Louis rocks - it's like an adult playground! And for those of you who are worried about getting busted: the cops don't care! If they did, they would crack down on the blatant behavior - but they don't care. Ask any of the girls. Watch the girls. They'll tip you off. For example, one night I drove by Lee's - it was strangely quiet and barren of girls. Low and behold, across the street sat two cruisers - if the cops are around, the girls will know it and scatter like cockroaches in the light. It's not easy to sneak up on that area.

I can't wait to come back to your area!

Rugger115
07-30-05, 19:51
This place is becoming my favorite. The dancers on average seem to be better looking, and the contact is for the most part high. Friday and Sat nights sem to be a bad time to go as there are fewer girls and more guys. But I have gone on a Wed and Sunday afternoon and have ben surprised by the number of dancers. Last Wed there were 8 dancers in the 7-8 range. Contact at the stage was high with plenty of breast touching. A couple gals really worked their covered pussies on my face. half the time I was the only guy at the stage so I got plenty of action for minimal bucks. I had pvts with 3 different gals and each allowed my to touch what I wanted, except between their legs.

I have had ok times at Cmoes. It is only about the service, and not the quaklity of female. U go there to get off. I have never seen a dancer there over 6. Most are 5 and under. Some are getting push with the price. We all need to stick yogether with the 2 song .5 fee. thats the amount I have always paid for a cbj. If we let em charge higher we are the ones to blame.

I have yet to try Dollies. Anybody have a report on that place. I am thinking to going by next week afternoon. Ive heard it has the potential for good action.

Happy times!

brwnilvr
07-31-05, 05:03
Discreet Motel is being cleaned up with a new Manager thought I would give it a try but same crack ******. Got ripped off by one named Nichole she was trying to take care of 2 guys at the same time in diffrent rooms doesn't work for me. Good place to avoid.

Chicagomax
08-01-05, 17:12
There are two unmarked cop cars that cruise the the Lee Wash Rack area. One is a dark blue, almost black car and the other is a yellow f150. They are not bothering the sw's but a pulling over anyone who looks like they are cruising for flesh. I know this cause my buddy from Brooklyn got pulled over and his car searched. The cops told him to keep his ass between the white lines or nect time they would find a reason to arrest him.

Chicagomax
08-01-05, 17:13
Yea someone has opened up the fence up on the rt3 side so there is an entrance off of there now. SOme dude in a red chevy is ruuning it now and someone told me he is part of the mob from Chicago. (who really knows)




Discreet Motel is being cleaned up with a new Manager thought I would give it a try but same crack ******. Got ripped off by one named Nichole she was trying to take care of 2 guys at the same time in diffrent rooms doesn't work for me. Good place to avoid.

Stay Alert
08-03-05, 17:54
We all need to stick yogether with the 2 song .5 fee. thats the amount I have always paid for a cbj. If we let em charge higher we are the ones to blame.

Agreed. It isn't costing these ****** anymore to suck your dick than it did 2 or 3 years ago. Lets face it. There are no cost increases for her to swallow your load. KEEP THE PRICE DOWN!

Bonerfide
08-03-05, 19:05
I finally ventured out to check out Cmoes. Pretty much everything was as prior posts have said. Girls in 2-6 range. I was suprised that every girl I talked to was pretty brazon. Despite telling them that I was a first timer they were quick to offer extras. Was quoted 0.5-.8 for BJ and .8-100 for FS. Overall not too bad a resource if you need a quick relief.

Takeaway19
08-03-05, 23:47
No mention of the VIP Spa here for a while; but still providing good service.

brwnilvr
08-04-05, 19:26
I was contacted yesterday by an employee of the Dicreet Motel wanting a grand donation or they were going to report me to Homeland Security. They apparently ran my plates and got my home address and since I have a DoD parking sticker they wanted money. Fooled them I am retired. So a word of warning.

Username
08-05-05, 02:55
My travel plans to the area are now confirmed, so I have a couple other questions. Its about 2 miles from the washington park metrolink stop, to c-mowes.

Basically, are there many cabs around this area that it would be very hard to get one ... and if not. Well that "use caution in this area" post has me wondering if its safe to walk that distance. The time I'd be doing this would be a weekend afternoon. Speaking of that are c-mowes hours the same on the weekend?

Funinst
08-05-05, 03:20
Hope you enjoy your visit to our area. I think you should be able to get a cab. By no means walk.

Good luck and have fun.


My travel plans to the area are now confirmed, so I have a couple other questions. Its about 2 miles from the washington park metrolink stop, to c-mowes.

Basically, are there many cabs around this area that it would be very hard to get one, and if not. Well that "use caution in this area" post has me wondering if its safe to walk that distance. The time I'd be doing this would be a weekend afternoon. Speaking of that are c-mowes hours the same on the weekend?

Rugger115
08-05-05, 12:59
This is a rough area. use caution. I would not walk the distance even during the day. I can't help u with cabs as i drive to this area. I imagine doorman at Cmoes can get you one, but I don't know if you can get one to the location from metro stop.

Good luck

whocaresIdo
08-05-05, 13:01
I was contacted yesterday by an employee of the Dicreet Motel wanting a grand donation or they were going to report me to Homeland Security. They apparently ran my plates and got my home address and since I have a DoD parking sticker they wanted money. Fooled them I am retired. So a word of warning.Looks like you are living in your own little fantasy again,by the way how is Adrianne? I heard she is very much alive seeing that you just posted about seeing Nicole.

whocaresIdo
08-05-05, 13:09
I was contacted yesterday by an employee of the Dicreet Motel wanting a grand donation or they were going to report me to Homeland Security. They apparently ran my plates and got my home address and since I have a DoD parking sticker they wanted money. Fooled them I am retired. So a word of warning.You really worry some people with your lies,oh yes how is Adrianne alive and well I here,seeing her name is Nicole.

whocaresIdo
08-05-05, 20:21
Discreet Motel is being cleaned up with a new Manager thought I would give it a try but same crack ******. Got ripped off by one named Nichole she was trying to take care of 2 guys at the same time in diffrent rooms doesn't work for me. Good place to avoid.But you keep going back,there must be some good ladies there. Don't you have any good reports as you have been around for years.

Ulysses 46
08-05-05, 22:39
No mention of the VIP Spa here for a while; but still providing good service.I couldn't agree more, which is a change for me. I've seen Sheri (Cherry?) there a few times over the last couple of months. She's in her mid-30s, but very agreeable and accommodating at the usual rate. She did try for more the first time, but now we have a working arrangement.

My objection to VIP is that everyone's so much on the clock. Some of the places in Columbia are much more relaxed about such details.

Still, VIP works well for this area.

U 46

Username
08-06-05, 02:38
Thanks for the clarification on the danger level of the area near c-mowes. In this new era of security, the metrolink station itself probably has secutity cameras .. so standing around waiting for a cab shouldn't be a problem, I hope.

I guess I'm just wondering if many cabs make a point of going in there .. in most cities I've been two where the trains are only occasional (its something like 20 minutes there I think) cabs will usually make a point of coming by to see if anybody needs a lift.

As for leaving c-mowes ... well most bars, for obvious reasons have relationships with cab co's and get you one faster than if you called yourself. Perhaps someone has first-hand experience of this.

Is this place so dangerous it would be dangerous even to stand right outside on the street at c-mowes to wait for a cab?

whocaresIdo
08-06-05, 09:40
Thanks for the clarification on the danger level of the area near c-mowes. In this new era of security, the metrolink station itself probably has secutity cameras .. so standing around waiting for a cab shouldn't be a problem, I hope.

I guess I'm just wondering if many cabs make a point of going in there .. in most cities I've been two where the trains are only occasional (its something like 20 minutes there I think) cabs will usually make a point of coming by to see if anybody needs a lift.

As for leaving c-mowes ... well most bars, for obvious reasons have relationships with cab co's and get you one faster than if you called yourself. Perhaps someone has first-hand experience of this.

Is this place so dangerous it would be dangerous even to stand right outside on the street at c-mowes to wait for a cab?Cabs are easy to come by in that area, trains are about 10 mins apart, if you are coming in to St.Louis some times there is a sur charge. And some cabs have a set fee.

Bill Bradsky
08-06-05, 09:42
Thanks for the clarification on the danger level of the area near c-mowes. In this new era of security, the metrolink station itself probably has secutity cameras .. so standing around waiting for a cab shouldn't be a problem, I hope.

I guess I'm just wondering if many cabs make a point of going in there .. in most cities I've been two where the trains are only occasional (its something like 20 minutes there I think) cabs will usually make a point of coming by to see if anybody needs a lift.

As for leaving c-mowes ... well most bars, for obvious reasons have relationships with cab co's and get you one faster than if you called yourself. Perhaps someone has first-hand experience of this.

Is this place so dangerous it would be dangerous even to stand right outside on the street at c-mowes to wait for a cab?User,

As a backup plan I would call info and get the number of a local cab company and ask them if they will pickup at the metrolink and drop off in Washington Park and come back and get you when you call them. Many cab drivers are also cautious about pickups in this area.

I am not trying to scare you off but I don't want to read about you in the paper either. Definitely don't walk.

Good luck and post a report about your adventure.

BB

Username
08-06-05, 20:30
whocares, thanks for the clarification on cabs at the washing park metrolink station. Can't same I'm a big fan of set fee cabs though .. usually those assume you are going some distance, not a 5 minute trip like this one.

Sounds like leaving c-mowes will be the larger issue. It would be great if someone could ask or call them about whether nor not they can get cabs. Indeed Bill is right I should have the numbers of the local cab co's handy. He said some of them don't like to come to that area.

Well, checking a phone book site, there are only 2 cab co's listed in East saint louis. I don't need to give them free advertising here, but you can look them up yourself. Guess it would be of help if someone knew he better one to call. I'm only gonna have a couple hours to spend in the area, I'd rather not have to spend all of it getting cabs, heh.

Oh yeah one other thing. Again its not abnormal for a SC to have different hours on the weekend ... so if somebody could just clarify they are open weekend afternoons, that'd be great.

Fred Reed
08-08-05, 19:15
A few weeks ago I found Stacey near North 4th St and Exchange Avenue. She has gained a little weight since I met her last March but her body still looks nice. Her body does not have any tattoos , piercings or scares. Stacey is about 5' 5", 25 yrs old with green eyes and brown hair. Sometimes she dyes her hair blonde. This girl has a good attitude! She usually comes out after it gets dark.

I have picked up a few other girls at this spot too.

See map and photo below.

Happy Hunting!


Fred

whocaresIdo
08-08-05, 19:39
We have so many beautiful ladies out there,I worry about the men who see the SW I hope you are all playing safe,that is why I stay with the ladies on the net. I was down Broardway last night just looking nothing going on and than I went down rt 3 nothing there so back to the net.

Funinst
08-08-05, 20:41
The time was about 8:30PM. On Collinsville Rd., 1 bsw and 1wsw. One wsw in front of the crack/ripoff hotel. Nothing at the washrack, in Brooklyn or on Chain of Rocks Road.

The two on Collinsville road might have looked good at closing time, but not sober, the one near the hotel looked ok from 'going toward Brooklyn' side of the road, but I've had a bad experience there so no interest in stopping.

Funinst
08-08-05, 20:43
Is Exchange Avenue the street at the stop sign by the vacant building at Collinsville Rd.?


A few weeks ago I found Stacey near North 4th St and Exchange Avenue. She has gained a little weight since I met her last March but her body still looks nice. Her body does not have any tattoos , piercings or scares. Stacey is about 5' 5", 25 yrs old with green eyes and brown hair. Sometimes she dyes her hair blonde. This girl has a good attitude! She usually comes out after it gets dark.

I have picked up a few other girls at this spot too.

See map and photo below.

Happy Hunting!

Fred

Username
08-10-05, 23:17
Ok, between the board, and some PMs I'm very much getting conflicting messages about cab availablility at the washington park metrolink stop. Between that and the stuff about some cab companies won't even come out that way ... and the talk about its too dangerous to walk the distance to c-mowes ... I guess I'm wondering if I should even bother.

I guess I would just like more people's thoughts on the cab issue.

Monger Forever
08-11-05, 02:03
East st. louis and escape from new york are not far apart. east st. louis is a well kept secret of the midwest. yep some sexy ladies but very dangerous play ground so be extra careful. I don't even mess around there. And I do some very high risk playing. hell tonight I messed around in south dallas very rough and it didnt even bother me.

stay safe fellas.

bubba

whocaresIdo
08-11-05, 02:19
Ok, between the board, and some PMs I'm very much getting conflicting messages about cab availablility at the washington park metrolink stop. Between that and the stuff about some cab companies won't even come out that way ... and the talk about its too dangerous to walk the distance to c-mowes ... I guess I'm wondering if I should even bother.

I guess I would just like more people's thoughts on the cab issue.Check with cabs before you head that way,you can set times with to pick up up at the train and than later at the club,it really is not that bad.

Jannisary
08-11-05, 17:38
I really don't know about the cab situation in Washington Park. My best advice to you would be to find the phone numbers of the local cab companies and give them a call. As much business as the bigger clubs like Hustler and Hollywood do I'm pretty sure there is a cab company who does business in Washington Park.

So now that we've got the cab situation taken care of, has anybody seen any good girls on the street lately? I had hoped this summer to see some beauties walking the streets of Brooklyn, Rt3 and Collinsville Rd but so far the times I've been in the area things have looked pretty dead.

I was in Brooklyn a couple of weeks ago and saw absolutely nothing on the streets. You could alwasy at least spot one or two by the clubs before, though usually not worth picking up. Has the Brooklyn PD cracked down or what?

I saw a lot of activity at the wash rack, too much in a way. Was slowing down to get a look and thinking about stopping when a fancy newer Buick (I think) pulled into the lot. I thought "what the hell, thats not very discrete", so I kept on going down the road. There were about four cars parked toward the front of the lot but I didn't see any girls standing around. On my return trip back from Brooklyn I saw one blonde standing kinda in the south-east corner. She didn't look bad from the road but she was talking or arguing with an African-American gentleman so I kept going.

I cruised the areas both during the afternoon, evening, and late on the way back to my motel and really did not see anybody I'd pick up. Maybe just bad timing on my part.

Username
08-12-05, 02:53
I say again. There are only 2 cab companies for east saint louis listed. I at least think cab companies have to keep there primary operations kept to their home state .. so ones in MO probably are no good here.

Part of my problem is, I'll be heading over there after a cards game, so I have no fixed time for when I will be arriving. Getting a cab from busch stadium to c-mowes wouldn't be too cheap, and still wouldn't fix the return trip problem.

I guess I was just hoping yall could save me some phone charges here.

Like I said, businesses like bars, call a cab co, and they come running. You call them up, and it can take a long time. (hours even .. which I don't have) It sounds like just standing around waiting at the station could be dangerous enough, I dunno.

Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse here people.

whocaresIdo
08-12-05, 03:43
I say again. There are only 2 cab companies for east saint louis listed. I at least think cab companies have to keep there primary operations kept to their home state .. so ones in MO probably are no good here.

Part of my problem is, I'll be heading over there after a cards game, so I have no fixed time for when I will be arriving. Getting a cab from busch stadium to c-mowes wouldn't be too cheap, and still wouldn't fix the return trip problem.

I guess I was just hoping yall could save me some phone charges here.

Like I said, businesses like bars, call a cab co, and they come running. You call them up, and it can take a long time. (hours even .. which I don't have) It sounds like just standing around waiting at the station could be dangerous enough, I dunno.

One other thing ... someone mentioned in a PM .. I don't want to mention it by name because I'm not quite sure if its supposed to be a secret or something, but a club much closer to the washington park station ... like even like right across the street practically, that is supposed to be a lot like c-mowes. Does anybody know what I'm talking about?

Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse here people.I know in Brooklyn cabs would sit outside the bars,it only takes at the most to get a cab from over there because they know the money is good.

Good luck

Rugger115
08-12-05, 13:59
My first time there and pleasantly surprised. Weekday afternoon. Very dark inside and small space. 3 stages. $2 cover, $4 beers. HArd to tell how many girls bc they jept coming and going. but Id say 3 black women, and 6 white. range in 2-7. avergae in the 5-6. stage contact looked high. 1 gal was humping (dry) a customer hard at the stage. I sat at a table. Had 3 different gals sit on me and grind and grope nice; y for a couple of songs. Gave each 2-3$ and they seemed happy. I had my hands on their ass and tits including gentle nipple rubbing and pulling. They were grabbing a lot. It's so dark, you can't see shit around you. They did not complain bout my touching. The nicer of the three offered me a private in a booth. SHe started at. 6 I suggested 5. with no song limit. I think I could have gone lower as she did not hesitate. In the booth she provided lovely HJ. She said CBJ with certain girls but not her. This place had much better of selection of girls than Cmoes. I'm looking forward to returning.

Happy Hunting,

Rugger

Username
08-13-05, 00:15
Ok lets see. If cabs are not frequent at the washington park metrolink .. are they common at ANY of the stops on the IL side?

This dollies sounds like a nice backup plan if I don't find anything to suit my fancy at c-mowes, or perhaps even like a good place to warm up before going to c-mowes, what with all the inexpensive touching.

More talk about how dangerous this area is ... the distance between c-mowes and dollies is .6 miles up Forest Blvd. Any thoughts as to whether or not that stretch of road is any safer than the 2 miles between c-mowes and the metrolink, on 111?

Ohio Man
08-13-05, 07:16
Ok lets see. If cabs are not frequent at the washington park metrolink .. are they common at ANY of the stops on the IL side?Why don't you just rent a car for the day and drive anywhere you want? You can usually pick up a car for $20/day from discount locations (i.e. Thrifty).

Fred Reed
08-13-05, 08:41
I came across the following news story this morning about a teen escort who died in a mongers home. I think that this should remind us all to make sure the girls are of legal age and also not to see them in your home. The monger may lose some if not all of his business over this.
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Lawyer: Burg report credible
By JASON NARK and JIM WALSH
Courier-Post Staff

A Montgomery County, Pa., man's claim that he sought hospital care for Ashley Burg is supported by the site where the Willingboro teenager's body was found, the man's lawyer said Thursday.

Burg's underwear-clad body was found Aug. 1 in a wooded area of Northeast Philadelphia that authorities have described as a haunt for young drug users. But the site also is less than a mile from a hospital emergency room.

"It's favorable that the girl was located near a hospital because my client gave instructions to take her to a hospital," said Thomas Egan, who represents David F. Downey of Limerick, Pa. "This does seem at least consistent with his instructions."

Authorities suspect Burg, 17, died of a drug overdose while working for an escort service. Investigators believe it was her first time working as an escort.

Downey, who admits Burg came to his home after he called an escort service on the night of July 30, contends he told two representatives of the call-girl ring to take the teen to a hospital after she became ill. But that couple says Burg was already dead, according to authorities.

The couple -- identified in a search-warrant affidavit as exotic dancer Christine Shute and her boyfriend, Mike Tees -- told authorities that Downey gave them directions to Phoenixville Hospital, which is near his home.

When they could not find that hospital, Shute and Tees decided to drive to a hospital in Philadelphia, the affidavit says. Authorities said Burg's body was found near Red Lion Road and Crestmont Avenue in Philadelphia, which is near Frankford Hospitals Torresdale Campus and about 40 miles from Limerick.

"My client's involvement ended once the girl was placed in the car," said Egan. The attorney said he did not know why his client called the escort service for help, rather than an ambulance.

Shute and Tees could not be reached for comment.

Downey gave Shute and Tees $2,000 to cover Burg's medical expenses, Egan said. But the couple considered that a payment "to get rid of the body," Montgomery County District Attorney Bruce Castor said at a press conference Tuesday.

"You're dealing with statements from multiple sources that don't add up," Castor observed as investigators searched Downey's upscale home.

Castor declined to comment Thursday on the ongoing suspicious-death investigation.

Burg, whose mother and stepfather live in Gloucester City, would have been a junior this fall at Burlington County Institute of Technology in Westampton. She lived in Willingboro with her aunt.

Philadelphia Homicide Lt. Phil Riehl, whose unit investigated Burg's death, said authorities believe July 30 was the girl's first time working as an escort.

"How she came to do it on this particular evening, we don't know," he said. "We don't know if it was for money or for drugs or what," said Riehl.
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Links to other news stories about Ms Burg, some with pictures.

http://*******.com/9udjb

http://*******.com/7g5mx

http://*******.com/cgmxx

http://*******.com/azrn4

Fred

Winddance1
08-13-05, 10:17
With a two song limit was wondering how enthusiastic the girls were in the work. Not as young as I once was and wondering if they would get the job done.

Username
08-14-05, 03:58
I heard about another SC from someone, called soft touch. Its supposed to be a lot closer to the washington park station than the other clubs that have been mentioned. It would be great if someone could come up with accurate directions, computer maps seem to put it in the middle of nowhere, no buildings on satellite photos.

Anyway, the only real complaint anyone has posted on this forum about the place, is that its all black. Now if there are a lot of black girls in STL area clubs, well good for yall. Where I'm from though, you're lucky if there any working. So to me, this isn't much of an issue, its probably a plus in fact.

From what I've heard the prices are similar to c-mowes. I haven't been able to figure out about the length of the back room time however, if its 2 songs strict like c-mowes, or more flexible. Any info would be great, thanks.

Alex P Keaton
08-15-05, 00:31
I heard about another SC from someone, called soft touch. Its supposed to be a lot closer to the washington park station than the other clubs that have been mentioned. It would be great if someone could come up with accurate directions, computer maps seem to put it in the middle of nowhere, no buildings on satellite photos. If you enter 4491 Saint Clair Ave East Saint Louis, IL 62203-1000 into Mapquest, you'll get an accurate map. You are correct that it is closer to the Metrolink stop than C-Mowes or Dollie's, but you are also correct that it is in the middle of nowhere. If you haven't gotten this impression already, there is no part of Washington Park or East St. Louis that is completely safe for an out-of-town white guy to walk around, and there are not taxis that cruise for customers at C-Mowes, Dollie's, or Soft Touch.

Username
08-16-05, 01:40
Thanks for the clarification alex. Every other mapping program I've tried other than mapquest puts its location basically on st. clair at the metrolink's track's railroad crossing, just before the station. That appeared to be completely wrong though with nothing on the satellite photos in that spot. There is a building however where mapquest puts it, like you said, basically just past where st. claire and summit come together.

Wow this is weird. Now, different than yesturday, mapquest is reporting this location by the railroad crossing, just like the other mappers.

Ok so I re-iterate, where is it? By the railroad crossing,(where mapquest says it is now and other mappers agree) or just west of the st.clair/summit intersection(where it literally said it was yestuday)?

Alex P Keaton
08-16-05, 21:47
Ok so I re-iterate, where is it? By the railroad crossing,(where mapquest says it is now and other mappers agree) or just west of the st.clair/summit intersection(where it literally said it was yestuday)?http://www.softtouchxxx.com/hours.htm

Username
08-17-05, 01:41
Thanks alex. Though I must say they could do a better job with that map. The location of the star isn't well placed. However, based on the arrow pointing at it, and the satellite photos, I will assume it is the location west of the st. claire/summit intersection, like I said. (unless somebody wants to dispute that)

B Mackey
08-22-05, 15:31
I heard about another SC from someone, called soft touch. Its supposed to be a lot closer to the washington park station than the other clubs that have been mentioned. It would be great if someone could come up with accurate directions, computer maps seem to put it in the middle of nowhere, no buildings on satellite photos.

Anyway, the only real complaint anyone has posted on this forum about the place, is that its all black. Now if there are a lot of black girls in STL area clubs, well good for yall. Where I'm from though, you're lucky if there any working. So to me, this isn't much of an issue, its probably a plus in fact.

From what I've heard the prices are similar to c-mowes. I haven't been able to figure out about the length of the back room time however, if its 2 songs strict like c-mowes, or more flexible. Any info would be great, thanks.Hi Username,

If this is your first time to Washington Park I would suggest steering clear of Soft Touch. There's plenty of places to keep you occupied during your visit. You traveling without a car are up against enough challenges already. If I were you I would start off my day at either the Hollywood or Miss Kitty's both located near the interstate exit. These clubs open weekdays at around noon. The day shift at both places aren't bad at all. The girls at Hollywood I think are nicer looking and the place is cleaner, newer, and nicer. But both places are friendly and lots of nice contact may be had. I personally like the relaxed atmosphere at Miss Kitty's. That should get you warmed up for the clubs deeper in town. End up at either C-Mowes or Dollies and your day should end pleasantly. Do not choose to walk in this area or you will be sorry. Let me repeat, do not choose to walk in this area or you will be sorry. Depending on an East St Louis area taxi, you may also be sorry. Rent a car, it's cheap and safe. Also, all clubs have a cover charge and all girls expect a 2 - 3 tip. If you undertip word will quickly travel and you will be avoided. I suggest you do not pay over .50 for anything extra. If it's early afternoon on a weekday you might pay less depending on who your dealing with. Soft Touch is kind of out of the way on the opposite side of town from the other clubs mentioned and will not offer anything better. If you prefer black girls Miss Kitty's has some beautiful ones. Be careful in whatever you do.

Dryerguy
08-23-05, 01:26
Hi Username,

If this is your first time to Washington Park I would suggest steering clear of Soft Touch. There's plenty of places to keep you occupied during your visit. You traveling without a car are up against enough challenges already. If I were you I would start off my day at either the Hollywood or Miss Kitty's both located near the interstate exit. These clubs open weekdays at around noon. The day shift at both places aren't bad at all. The girls at Hollywood I think are nicer looking and the place is cleaner, newer, and nicer. But both places are friendly and lots of nice contact may be had. I personally like the relaxed atmosphere at Miss Kitty's. That should get you warmed up for the clubs deeper in town. End up at either C-Mowes or Dollies and your day should end pleasantly. Do not choose to walk in this area or you will be sorry. Let me repeat, do not choose to walk in this area or you will be sorry. Depending on an East St Louis area taxi, you may also be sorry. Rent a car, it's cheap and safe. Also, all clubs have a cover charge and all girls expect a 2 - 3 tip. If you undertip word will quickly travel and you will be avoided. I suggest you do not pay over .50 for anything extra. If it's early afternoon on a weekday you might pay less depending on who your dealing with. Soft Touch is kind of out of the way on the opposite side of town from the other clubs mentioned and will not offer anything better. If you prefer black girls Miss Kitty's has some beautiful ones. Be careful in whatever you do.I'm a long time monger, but a newbie as far as posting here (I date back to the days of French Quarter and Red Garter, for those of you who remember). Washington Park can be a VERY dangerous place, most especially after dark. DO NOT WALK!!! I cannot emphasize this enough. Do not walk in East St. Louis or Brooklyn, either, for that matter. You will do fine at the places mentioned, but look into a rental car, as that will allow you to easily transit between the "hot spots" without attracting undo attention.

A. J.

Dryerguy
08-23-05, 01:31
Hello everyone:

I'm a long time hobbyist, but just recently found out about this board. I drive past the truck wash almost daily on my drive to and from work. I managed to leave work later this evening, so I took I-55 up to the 205 exit, then went right and back down to St. Clair Ave. I noticed that there were 3-4 BSW and 1 ratty WSW along the way near the "hotel" where they stay (I'll try and post pics soon, as this is the "hotbed" of activity in this area). One WSW near the truck wash, though there were too many cars to stop and talk, and then another WSW (a bit bigger) cutting through the weeds in Venice at the turn-off for the continuation of Rte 3. I have noticed that many SW seem to migrate towards a) the park there off of Rte 3 (just before the main turn towards Granite City) or b) near the McKinley Bridge area in Venice. Not sure if that's significant or not. Plan on taking a quick drive around tonight to see if there's any activity (not shopping, just browsing tonight).

I've noticed that activity is higher near rush hour times (both morning and evening) throughout the entire stretch from 205 to Rte 3.

A. J.

Dryerguy
08-24-05, 02:32
Went to both clubs tonight, figuring that both would contain women a bit more desperate to make money than on the Wednesday - Saturday "rush." Chameleon Club had most of the women busy, as there was a negative ratio (2:1) men, and there was not really anyone worth checking out in more detail. I was told on a previous visit that the rate for the basic room (sans hottub) was $30, and that whatever took place was "negotiable." Still have yet to confirm that.

Ended up at C-Mowes after a quick drive over to Dollies. Dollies had NOTHING going on, and wanted $4 for cover. I declined and left, went back to C-Mowes, and ended up catching the eye of one of the dancers. Cover was $1, (B) was $4. Original rates were $40 for a private, $60 for mouth, $100 for kitty, but she was quick to negotiate down to $50 for mouth and $80 for kitty on my first request. The women here were far better than I recalled from past visits (2+ years ago). In fact, I didn't see a one that was below a 4-5 on MY scale, and one or two that were about a 7 or 8.

Left, cause I didn't have the cashage on me, and they charge 20% to run cash out of a credit card (so for $1 BF it would've cost me a Jackson). Drove down Collinsville Rd to Rte 3 and back home. Saw several BSW on Collinsville Rd. near the hotel where they apparently stay (the 4 way stop), and one BSW walking towards the Wash Rack. I did see another gal, but couldn't get a close enough look, so I kept on.

Saw a gal (Tammy, I believe her name was) at the bend on Rte 3 between Venice and Brooklyn (railroad trustle). 30 for mouth, 40 for kat, 50 for both. Enthusiastic, but bruised and obviously addicted.

Three side notes/questions:

1) Have seen an inordinate amount of LE presence in the Brooklyn area (Rte 3 down to the clubs and up through Collinsville Rd. Be careful. Five or six were sitting near the tavern before the underpass on Collinsville, and quickly chasing any SW away. Saw even more LE near the Wash Rack (tucked away on the side roads) and the hotel (had a guy and gal out of the car).

2) Does anyone have any idea what's going on with the former Club Rio? I am seeing lights on now, but have no clue what it is (or is going to be).

3) Does anyone have any 411 on the club nestled between S&L and Pink Slip? I drove past and noticed a rather large, busy club, but did not have time or desire (at the time) to check it out.

AJ

brwnilvr
08-28-05, 16:54
Cruised through Brooklyn and the Truck wash area yesterday only saw 2 SW out and they were on Collinsville Rd. LE was all over the area saw at 4 by the Truck wash. Black SW looked okay but the white one looked way to used to be of interest.

bigdanny
09-01-05, 07:35
I went by there yesterday at 7am and there were about 6 girls in front working. Three I had never seen before in that area and all about a 5 on the SW scale. Lots of LE around as well.

John62702il
09-03-05, 02:34
I'm going to be with a group of guys on a bachelor party trip in the St. Louis area this weekend. What places would be the best to hit? Is Larry Flynt's Hustler Club a rip off or is it quality?

Country Boy 3
09-04-05, 23:35
It looked like they were making a bust at the rack Fri. night. There seems to be alot of LE on the east side lately. What's up at the discreet motel? I see they opened it up in the front, and got some new signs.

Noplacetogo
09-08-05, 10:07
For those of you who are familiar with the dancers at both of these clubs you might be interested to know that 3 of the girls for C-Mowes day shift (kim, crystal, and sabrina) have moved to Chameleon. Fans of these women will enjoy the fact that you can now get more than 2 songs worth of fun with them. Now the Chameleon club seems to be hopping and C-Mowes is more dead than usual. I went to both places yesterday. Another good thing about Chameleon is that it does not have a cover.

Jannisary
09-08-05, 23:37
How about the night shift at the chamelon club? The last time I was in there, in january or december (that long ago?) the place and girls were nasty. A month or two ago somebody was spamming the local stripclub boards about improvements at the Chamelon club but I kinda figured it was just bs. I really need to make it back over to WP!

Chicagomax
09-09-05, 16:32
I went past Lees about 7am this morning and saw three skanks out working for their crack money. No LE that I could see.

I came back through around 1pm and saw that young blond working and some dark haired skank and two LE parked near by on a side street. One of the cars was undercover. That is the second or third time I have seen that dark haired skank out there when LE was near. First time she as talking to them.. May be nothing or could be something.

Fred Reed
09-10-05, 07:50
I saw a skinny WSW named Amanda walking along Collinsville Rd near Lake Ave. around 5:30pm Friday. She's about 20 with average looks and is usually smoking slim cigars. If she looks familiar, it's probably because she was a dancer at one of the strip clubs in Sauget. I picked up her up earlier this year in Brooklyn. She agreed to half and half for $30. The CBJ was not enjoyable because she had a bad attitude. The sex was OK but not good enough to want a repeat performance anytime soon.


I also picked up a petite WSW named Christina(?) near the Hillcrest hotel about two weeks ago. . She was dressed real nice and appeared to be about mid 30's with a little sunburn on her face. She says that she usually works in St.Louis on south Broadway. Christina gave an outstanding BBBJCIM for $20.

There is a slim brunette called Joanna that's been out a few times this summer. I hear that she is the same girl that to used to carry a fake badge
and threatened to bust you it you didn't give her money. I'm sure a few members of this forum would love to she her again!

Fred

PrivatStuff
09-10-05, 17:07
Greetings from Tulsa,

I will be staying at the Holiday Inn at Pontoon Beach around the 27th of this month. What is the SW scene near there. I have stayed in Alton before and sampled the goods of Tiffany. But that was about a year ago.

Any info would be helpful and the favor returned if anyone is in the Tulsa area.

Thanks,
D

Winddance1
09-12-05, 16:01
For those of you who are familiar with the dancers at both of these clubs you might be interested to know that 3 of the girls for C-Mowes day shift (kim, crystal, and sabrina) have moved to Chameleon. Fans of these women will enjoy the fact that you can now get more than 2 songs worth of fun with them. Now the Chameleon club seems to be hopping and C-Mowes is more dead than usual. I went to both places yesterday. Another good thing about Chameleon is that it does not have a cover.


Was wondering if you could pm me with the location of the Chameleon club and the info on the ladies. I'm a senior member, many post on the nashville board. Thanks.

Alex P Keaton
09-15-05, 00:53
Was wondering if you could pm me with the location of the Chameleon club and the info on the ladies. I'm a senior member, many post on the nashville board. Thanks.

Directly next door to C-Mowe's on Kingshighway in Washington Park, Illinois.

Dryerguy
09-15-05, 18:05
There's really not anything going on directly in Pontoon Beach, at least not that I'm aware of. You could drive down the next two exits to I-270 and Rte 3, and that first intersection (with the Waffle House and the motels) is reportedly an active spot, though I've yet to see anything there. That, or head over the Venice/Brooklyn area.

ajile72


Greetings from Tulsa,

I will be staying at the Holiday Inn at Pontoon Beach around the 27th of this month. What is the SW scene near there. I have stayed in Alton before and sampled the goods of Tiffany. But that was about a year ago.

Any info would be helpful and the favor returned if anyone is in the Tulsa area.

Thanks,
D

Username
09-16-05, 00:44
While a bit belated, I do feel the need to summarize my recent trip to soft touch.

Firstly, I didn't see any cabs in the area, so I suppose its a good thing I didn't decide I wanted to wait for one, to go to one of the other clubs.

The location is basically as I thought fromt he satellite photos. You turn left at the end of the washington park metrolink parking lot, and its basically the first thing you see on the right, a bit down the road. The bartender told me they own the land all the way back to the train tracks, which is probably what confused mapping programs into thinking the club was there.

As for inside the club, I must say I rather enjoyed it. $10 per-song nude full hands-on dances. Granted I haven't been everywhere, but the only other place I'd seen that is some big east coast markets.

In addition to that, it didn't take very long for the girls to get pretty straight-forward in asking what I wanted.

There is a problem here though. There is a $20 charge just to get into the back room area. Now I was fortunate to be the only guy in the club for a lot of the couple hours I was there, so I basically had to play hardball to get a good rate.

I don't recall anyone mentioning this $20 fee before, but eventually I got what I wanted, The $20 charge for 5-songs instead of 2, and $60 to get down with the girl instead of $80, basically to bring the fee down to equal with c-mowes, everyone talks about. I suppose patience is probably a virtue here. You can expect to have to pay $100 probably otherwise, unless some of the other girls working there are more desperate.

I still wish there were bus lines heading toward the other clubs, heh.

For future visits, I'm still interested to know if the other clubs (cham,c-mowes,dollies), can get fast cab service.

Thanks for all the info peeps.

Dryerguy
09-16-05, 00:51
While a bit belated, I do feel the need to summarize my recent trip to soft touch.

Firstly, I didn't see any cabs in the area, so I suppose its a good thing I didn't decide I wanted to wait for one, to go to one of the other clubs.

The location is basically as I thought fromt he satellite photos. You turn left at the end of the washington park metrolink parking lot, and its basically the first thing you see on the right, a bit down the road. The bartender told me they own the land all the way back to the train tracks, which is probably what confused mapping programs into thinking the club was there.

As for inside the club, I must say I rather enjoyed it. $10 per-song nude full hands-on dances. Granted I haven't been everywhere, but the only other place I'd seen that is some big east coast markets.

In addition to that, it didn't take very long for the girls to get pretty straight-forward in asking what I wanted.

There is a problem here though. There is a $20 charge just to get into the back room area. Now I was fortunate to be the only guy in the club for a lot of the couple hours I was there, so I basically had to play hardball to get a good rate.

I don't recall anyone mentioning this $20 fee before, but eventually I got what I wanted, The $20 charge for 5-songs instead of 2, and $60 to get down with the girl instead of $80, basically to bring the fee down to equal with c-mowes, everyone talks about. I suppose patience is probably a virtue here. You can expect to have to pay $100 probably otherwise, unless some of the other girls working there are more desperate.

I still wish there were bus lines heading toward the other clubs, heh.

For future visits, I'm still interested to know if the other clubs (cham,c-mowes,dollies), can get fast cab service.

Thanks for all the info peeps.Good to hear that you had a decent time. I think you played the game correctly in this instance. Transportation is an issue in this area, though I never looked at it from a visitor's POV. I've always driven, so I've never really considered that it might be a problem to get around, particularly if you don't know the area. Believe me, it can be easy to get lost in this area; I've not done it, but I can see how difficult it can be, particularly given the merging of several different highways all into one in order to get over to MO, and the disorienting effect that such a merge can have on a person.

Dryerguy
09-16-05, 00:56
So I drove out through the normal route today, up to 205, down Collinsville Road to Route 3, and then on through to Venice and up to the main Rte 3 to Alton. In recent weeks, I've noticed far more activity on Collinsville Road than at the washrack, interestingly enough. Today, I saw one WSW (I'm going to have to snap a pic and see if anyone knows her... she's ALWAYS out there)and two BSWs before I got to the 4 way stop. Discreet had some new (albeit "old") ones standing out front... they've fixed the place up to some degree, at least on the outside, but I'm hesitant to go in. The two WSWs were 1s at best. The BSW in front, and the one down the street near the offramp, were about a 4.

Not much at all going on at the washrack. I'd say business has died since LE has taken greater notice.

There's a WSW that is usually out in the mornings near the closed Buddys place that I'm intrigued with. Tall, brownish hair, seems not quite out of place there, but close. Anyone have some insight?

Thanks

Bend It
09-16-05, 14:25
Gentlemen -

I was back in St. Louis for work recently and had an opportunity to head to Washington Park in the early evening. In years past, I've enjoyed the Pink Slip in Brooklyn, but decided this time to try something new (for me) and stopped in at C-Mowes.

There were five girls there, and one other guy besides myself. Bought a Budweiser, found a table by the stage and enjoyed the show for a little while. A not great looking lady sat down next to me and started rubbing little bend it. I enjoyed the attention for a while, then gave her ten for her trouble and sent her on her way.

Went over and sat at the bar for a while. Made eye contact with a BBW with long hair and *huge* titties. She came over, bought her a beer, she was talking dirty to me and grabbing little bendit. She was nasty, in the good sense of nasty (LOL)! Rubbing me, talking dirty, looking me in the eye.

We went to the back area, I started sucking on those big titties. She put a wrapper on me, and started the old head bob. I grabbed hold of her reddish hair and started moving her head for her. Turns out she's a submissive b****c. Finally stood her up, bent her over the chair and plowed her from behind.

So, a very positive report: a dirty-talking, big-titty woman who likes to be used rough.

Afterwards, I was enjoying another beer, and another woman comes up and asks if I'm ready for seconds! I thanked her, bought her a beer, and gave her my regrets.

Bend It

Dryerguy
09-20-05, 00:36
Seems to be an increase in activity off of Collinsville Road. Drove past on my way home tonight, saw four WSW (nothing above a 3-4 honestly), and two BSW (one of which I swear was a senior citizen). Drove past Discreet, nothing happening, down by the Wash Rack, saw the one brunette WSW that seems to be overly cozy with LE. A train had stopped traffic, she was obviously looking for customers, but I turned around and went back down Collinsville to I-55. Saw one additional WSW; the first two I saw ended near the bar just before the overpass with some guy and a pipe. Wasn't about to stop anyway.

Just FYI, tomorrow will likely be a busy night near the Washrack and on Collinsville... Tuesdays seem to bring out the SWs in droves, though I've never figured out why.

DryerGuy

brwnilvr
09-21-05, 17:02
Made a pass early this morning thinking some head my stimulate the rest of my day there were 3 BSW out before 5am and good thing it was dark because they were maybe a 2 or 3. Needless to say had a long day.

brwnilvr
09-24-05, 08:33
Stopped by Discreet Motel last night the remodeling done I thought things might have changed. NOT place just as smelly as ever. Only 2 working and both are more concerned about their crack pipes than service.

Country Boy #3
09-24-05, 15:51
It looked like it was a slow night on Illinois highways Friday night. Three state troopers had a guy stopped on Collinsville Road at Exchange. It looked like he had a SW with him. I guess they have all the real crime under control.

KC Questor
10-02-05, 00:47
OK, I hate to seem like a newbie. I know what RTFF means and I read all 12 pages. What and where is C-Mowes? I know it is in Washington Park, and I read all the descriptions, but it doesn't show up in any Yellow Pages search or map listing.

EDIT - OK, I found this on another site:

C-MOWES KEY CLUB
2107 Kingshighway
Washington Park, Illinois 62204-2800
(618)271-6924
Nude Stage Dancing
Hours: 12pm-2am. Open 7 Days a Week!
Cover Charge: $4 after 4 pm
Alcohol: Yes (Full Bar)
Check The RiverFront Times and The WildTimes for Coupons and Club Info!
Minimum Age: 21

Another site had it listed as:
CMOWES
Cover Charge:Always $1 at the Door!
Hours of Operation
Monday - Thursday 12pm till 2am
Friday 12pm till 4am
Saturday 1pm-4am
Sunday 4pm-12am

Still no idea what the real name is or why it doesn't show up on my yellow pages search.

Alex P Keaton
10-02-05, 00:55
The correct name is C-Mowes, the correct address is 2107 Kingshighway in
Washington Park, Illinois, the correct cover charge is $1, and the correct hours are:
Monday - Thursday 12pm-2am
Friday 12pm-4am
Saturday 1pm-4am
Sunday 4pm-12am

Blue Jeep Guy
10-05-05, 21:16
Made the trip to Cmowes tues. afternoon. Caught up with Bend-its bbw (her name is Angel) and she's a great sucker and has huge titties. Due to me being a BOG and her being a BBW anything beyond that in those little stalls is difficult. She did say that next time she'll have a blanket so we can throw the chairs out and get serious. Also visited with Janice. She caught me coming thru the door sat next to me and started rubbing me the right way. It's great to lean back watching a girl on stage while getting rubbed by another. In back she rode me like a pony to the finish. All in all watched some girls "dance", got some luvin and watched some baseball a fine way to spend an afternooner.

KC Questor
10-08-05, 17:12
Stopped by Chameleon and C-Mowes on Thursday eve. Chameleon was dead. C-Mowes was kind of hopping -- it seemed quiet to me but one of the girls said it was relatively busy. Quality at both places was low, 4-7 on the stripper scale. C-Mowes had the best of the lot.

In C-Mowes I was joined by Denise. She was older than I like, but had a decent face and stunning tits. It is very clear that most guys just come in for the back room. She was not interested in sweet talking me. I bought her a shot and a beer and she sat down, but she really did not make any effort to sell herself. She didn't touch me at all, much less rub my crotch or try to get me excited. She just said "Want a private now?" I said maybe later. She sat with me, but hardly interacted at all -- she just waited. Was weird.

She left for a sec to talk to someone, and a cute brunette named Rumer got up to dance. I went and got a nice stage dance from her -- lots of lap action and hands on her tits. She was funny and kind of sweet. Denise danced next and I got a lap from her too. After she asked if I wanted a private. I said sure and she said "$60 for head, $100 for full" Man, talk about right to the point.

She was OK in the back. Pretty damned businesslike. I was actually thinking of Rumer and wishing I had chosen her.

That two song limit is a bummer. Gonna give Chameleon a shot again next time.

Question: what is the standard tip for a stage dance? I normally tip a buck when I am sitting at most stages, but that is just for a show. Here the girl climbs down from the stage and gives you a real lap dance. I tipped $5, since I was the only guy at the stage and so basically got a full song lap dance with grinding and tit action.

Fred Reed
10-10-05, 20:38
I picked this up elsewhere on this board. I find myself rethinking my position on the care and feeding of S.W.'s. I found myself caring about the situation they find themselves in. Then I realized...THEY PUT THEMSELVES THERE AND MOST DO LITTLE TO GET THEMSELVES OUT! Each time I've tried to help, I've been burned. Hence...

Originally Posted by Virgil1216

Rule #1 When I am done, GET OUT OF MY CAR!

Rule #2 See rule #1, It just needs to be said twice.

Rule #3 If you think you are going to light the crack pipe in my ride, think again.

Rule #4 If You need a ride at the end and I am feeling gracious enough to bend rule #1, it better be close, and you better know where the hell you are going.

Rule #5 I am not as comfortable as you with my status as a 'john', this means yelling to your your crack friends out my window will get you no where fast.

Rule #6 I am paying you, at the very least ACT interested.

Rule #7 Acting like a Jerry Springer guest on crack is not cool, stop freaking out.

Rule #8 I have good eyesight, I don't need you to jump up and down, wave, send up flares, etc. before I pick you up. If I drive by you and pass you up, its becuase A) Not interested B) I'm busy C) You have a face/body that could stop a clock D) You look like Steve Buscemi on glue-bender. make eye contact.. thats all I need and thats all I prefer. I may well drive by a few times, it's all about my comfort level.

Rule #9 If you give me lack luster service, you will compensated accordingly. I mean really, is this why you are doing what your doing, did the formula for success as a waitress truly baffle you?

Rule #10 Act polite, small talk relaxs everyone involved. Small talk about your court date for felony assault doesn't.

Rule #11 Asking me if I am the police is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. Reach over and give me a gentle squeeze, thats the proof (or hey, at least it works for me.)

Rule #12 You need to supply the condoms, not me. I can't have that shit hanging around my car. I don't bring my own sugar for my coffee at Denny's.

Rule #13 State the way you want me to 'release' before hand...

Rule #14 Wash that funky ass.

Rule #15 It's my car, don't change the radio stations, adjust the seats or anything else that I will have to reset later (or alternately forget to reset and have to answer the questions like 'Who adjusted this seat?')

Rule #16 I will NEVER pick up a girl who's pimp/boyfriend/WTF ever is following, lose the dude and we can do business. (If Cameron Diaz was turning tricks in Gastonia and her pimp was with her, I swear I would drive on by...)

Rule #17 Put out the cigarette.

Rule #18 If you rip me off, I will make it my lifes work to find you and run you over. Lest you forget, you are a street WALKER, I am a street DRIVER, you must see the advantages of my situation.

Rule #19 GET OUT OF MY CAR WHEN I AM DONE!!

Katfish991
10-11-05, 13:53
I always feel I'm paying them to leave more than anything else.

Country Boy #3
10-11-05, 21:14
Maybe we should give the girls a copy.

Dryerguy
10-13-05, 23:44
Well, past few days I've taken a quick trip past the normal "stroll" just to see what's happening. In all honesty, NOT much. I saw a few BSW (one old, one large, one drugged out) and one WSW (drugged out), all less than a 2 on the dryerguy scale, out on Collinsville Road. Saw Uncle Leo out a bit too. Most of the sites were right near the hotel near the 4 way stop at Exchange. Drove past the Discreet, there was a died red-head walking around; I've seen her before out there, but have no idea who she is. She looks a bit strange, if you know what I mean. I'll be taking a trip out shortly to peruse the selections, so I might have some more info for later.

Dryerguy

Country Boy #3
10-14-05, 00:01
Glenda was out this evening. A very nice change from what we're used to. She's a petite blond, mid to late 30's. Didn't appear to be strung out like most of them. A strong 9 on the sw scale. Excellent service. Almost as if she has read the sw rules.

Fred Reed
10-14-05, 06:44
Glenda was out this evening. A very nice change from what we're used to. She's a petite blond, mid to late 30's. Didn't appear to be strung out like most of them. A strong 9 on the sw scale. Excellent service. Almost as if she has read the sw rules.

Country Boy,

Glenda has been around for at least a year. I gave a short post about her last October.

Fred

Dryerguy
10-14-05, 23:36
Last night was rather slow, given the fact that there was ample opportunity for the girls to make a quick buck (after the game and all). I saw only one WSW near the Discreet, and lemme tell ya, she was a -3 on my scale. There were a couple of BSW near the washrack, but nothing of substance. I think that there were a few SW near the Hillcrest (that's the hotel at Exchange & Collinsville), but I couldn't see them, as they stayed in the shadows completely. On another note, I did pull in to the Discreet to see who was working, and what had changed (it's been a LONG while since I've investigated that place). It's a minimum of $20 for the room, and then rates start at $65. Hardly a bargain, IMHO.

Dryerguy

Dryerguy
10-14-05, 23:40
Be careful out there tonight gents. I saw SEVERAL LE prowling on Collinsville Road, with several more ESL LE hidden out of view near the washrack. Apparently, the SW situation will be a major focus tonight. The one ESL LE was turning around from the gas station @ 203 to Exchange, and then back again. ALMOST thought he was following me as I was going a bit faster than the SL when I went up there from 203. I think tonight would be a bad night along the stroll. Did see two SW (one WSW, one?) just past Brooklyn walking towards the school; wasn't able to see them very well to gain identity or specs, but didn't look overly appealing.

On another note, and perhaps the wrong forum, anyone have any experience with Crystal on the CL posts? I have recently seen daily posts from her, but she reminds me a bit too much of Gee Gee, Candy, et. al., so I'm wondering if it's not the same group.

Dryerguy

Alex P Keaton
10-15-05, 05:20
In C-Mowes I was joined by Denise. She was older than I like, but had a decent face and stunning tits. It is very clear that most guys just come in for the back room. She was not interested in sweet talking me. I bought her a shot and a beer and she sat down, but she really did not make any effort to sell herself. She didn't touch me at all, much less rub my crotch or try to get me excited. She just said "Want a private now?" I said maybe later. She sat with me, but hardly interacted at all -- she just waited. Was weird.

Denise is probably the most attractive night-shift girl working there at the moment. Unfortunately, her attitude alternates between lazy and angry.


She left for a sec to talk to someone, and a cute brunette named Rumer got up to dance. I went and got a nice stage dance from her -- lots of lap action and hands on her tits. She was funny and kind of sweet.

I like Rumor's personality a lot. Her face, too. If she lost weight, we'd be a match.


That two song limit is a bummer.

You can sometimes arrange to exceed the two-song limit ahead of time with the girl and the barmaid (and pay accordingly).


Question: what is the standard tip for a stage dance?

$1 is too little. $5 is generous. $3 is fine.

KC Questor
10-15-05, 16:51
Denise is probably the most attractive night-shift girl working there at the moment. Unfortunately, her attitude alternates between lazy and angry.Very apt description of her. She complained a lot, but man those tits had me in thrall.


I like Rumor's personality a lot. Her face, too. If she lost weight, we'd be a match.I'll definitely be looking for her next time I go back. She told me she picked her name from Demi Moore's daughter's, which is why I spelled it "Rumer" :)


You can sometimes arrange to exceed the two-song limit ahead of time with the girl and the barmaid (and pay accordingly).Actually, we did just that. After we started I opted to upgrade from BJ to FS. It would have been $40 extra but she said for an extra $20 I could get two more songs. In the end it was 1.2 for 4 songs.


$1 is too little. $5 is generous. $3 is fine.Danke. Just what I was thinking.

Alex P Keaton
10-15-05, 22:54
Very apt description of her. She complained a lot, but man those tits had me in thrall.

I take it you haven't met Denise's sister, Lynn, who also works there? Hers are absolutely ginormous. Unfortunately, she's also heavier than Denise.


I'll definitely be looking for her next time I go back. She told me she picked her name from Demi Moore's daughter's, which is why I spelled it "Rumer" :)

I defer to your superior knowledge. I only know what I read written on the Miller Lite dry-erase board. :-)

Jannisary
10-17-05, 23:23
Lynn is heavier than Denise but has a much better attitude. I've had fun with them both but with Denise its definetly a YMMV situation, depending upon her mood, drinking, and whatever other factors out there.

Last time I was in the area over a weekend. I stopped by on a friday night and had a good time, wound up getting a cbj from Lynn. I had been drinking probably more than I should have and she had to really work. I was starting to get worried about going over the two song limit but she kept at it and didn't ***** or complain. We finally got the transaction completed and I was drained and impressed. I headed to the bathroom afterwards and then returned to the bar where I bought a drink for Lynn, a shot for Denise and a beer for myself. As we're standing there Lynn tells Denise and another girl "you better watch out for this guy, he'll really make you work!" . I was really starting to contemplate taking Denise back for some full service action; she was looking good and seemed to be in a decent mood. Then another dancer said something that pissed her off and I decided it was probably time to leave. Told Lynn I'd be back the next night, and to her surprise I was.

Country Boy #3
10-18-05, 23:52
I had another memorable date with Glenda tonight. She's the best one I've found in along time. Looks=9, attitude=9, service=9. Treat her right, and maybe we can keep her around.

KC Questor
10-20-05, 20:18
Started out at Dollie's on a nice slow Wednesday night. Had a bunch of fun with a cutie who was pretty liberal in the private area. She was nervous about being seen, but had no trouble taking out my johnson and getting busy with her hands. She even licked her hands frequently for lubrication. She was disappointed that she wasn't gonna be able to make me finish; she did try really hard. I think takeout may be possible on this one -- I'll let y'all know.

After that I moved over to C-Mowes for a finish. Was planning on a repeat visit to Chameleon, but there wasn't a single car out front, even though the open sign was on. C-Mowes was pretty dead too. Thought there might be more guys out watching the game. Denise was there, although I barely recognized her. She looked amazing in a pink and black two piece outfit that was a cross between a schoolgirl uniform and a bathing suit. I wasn't in the mood for attitude so I left her alone.

There was a spiiner with glasses that asked me for a drink, but I blew her off. I need to get her name, she was nice looking. I was hoping to see Rumor, but her name wasn't on the board. I ended up sitting at the bar talking to Utopia. She was seriously high pressure, but in a fun way. I was having a great time telling her no every time she asked me to take her to the back room. Eventually gave in and got a nice CBJ for .5. All in all a fun night.

Alex P Keaton
10-20-05, 21:47
Lynn is heavier than Denise but has a much better attitude. I've had fun with them both but with Denise its definetly a YMMV situation, depending upon her mood, drinking, and whatever other factors out there.

You're exactly right. For example, a screw-up by Denise recently caused their nicest bouncer to be let go. Her babydaddy came in one night and sat down at a table near the stage. She freaked out, tried to attack him, and had to be restrained. The bouncer got in between them but didn't use force on the guy because he hadn't done a thing but sit there and get attacked. The bouncer just talked to him calmly for a couple of minutes to get him out the door, after which Denise ran outside and tried to attack him again. This apparently didn't sit well with management, which decided that it needs its bouncers to get physical with its customers immediately and without asking any questions first, because the club can't control its crazy, violent girls like Denise.

Fred Reed
10-22-05, 20:37
I found a crack pipe under the front seat of my car a few days ago. Don't know how long I was driving around with it. I came across PsyberZombie's post on the subject and thought that it was worth sharing with the local mongers.

Fred



The other day I dropped my key to the P·Z 'Ho·mobile' between the passenger seat and the center console

While digging around for it , I found some stuff probably dropped by girls in the process of dis·robing or getting dressed after·wards =

—— A bunch of change

—— A tube of lip·stick which was definitely not Mrs Zombie's shade ; and

—— A glass tube Crack Pipe !!

If you've never seen one of these , it's a 4" long clear , color·less glass tube about 3 / 8th inch diameter [ the glass itself is a sturdy 1 / 16th inch thick ] . At the 'business end' some small copper shavings serve as the 'screen' for the crack

Had Yours Truly ever been stopped and the vehicle searched , he would have had a tough time explaining that one !!

But it made a good souvenir , as did the large box cutter a gal dropped on the floor in front of the passenger seat , which I kept after a Bad Date last summer

I actually noticed it while she was still in the car , but the date was so awful that I just kept quiet , figuring that it was a little pay·back after all the times I've been ripped of by SWs

P·Z 's Tip 'o The Day =

I would recommend that before you let your spouse or S.O. in the car after you've had a Date that you check between the passenger seat and the door :

Girls often just drop their trash like gum or condom wrappers there , but I've also found various items like combs and lighters and it might be tough explaining the presence of any of these , especially lip·stick tubes and crack pipes !!

brwnilvr
10-26-05, 20:35
My birthday is coming up next weekend and would like suggestions from you Gentlemen on who to spend it with or where to spend it.

Travel Time
10-27-05, 16:45
My birthday is coming up next weekend and would like suggestions from you Gentlemen on who to spend it with or where to spend it.I am no expert on your area but there are clubs with extras. (See the other section for starters.) The one I was in was all black chics. Not what I am really into. I have also seen some SW action around the cluster of bars in Brooklyn.

Hope this helps and Happy Birthday.

Phil Anderer76
10-28-05, 08:30
Found myself in the Washington Park vicinity yesterday. After reading all the posts about C-Mowes, I went in search of. . . Not realizing at the time it was farther down Kingshighway from all the other clubs, I didn't find it. I stopped into Miss Kitty's instead.

I was surprised that the moment I walked in the door, I was summoned by a fairly attractive black girl (6-7), nice bod. As I sat down at the bar to pay the cover and get a drink, her hand was in my lap and the offer of extras was made (.5). I was in a bit of a hurry anyway, but from the time I walked in the door, to the time I was back out in the car couldn't have been more than 10 minutes. Sometimes there's something to be said for efficiency.

One other note, while in search of C-Mowes I ventured down Caseyville Ave. Big mistake! While nothing happened, I was scared shitless. It normally doesn't phase me to drive through questionable neighborhoods - this was way different.

KC Questor
10-28-05, 23:18
After a nice time at Dollies the other night I decided to head over to Chameleon and see if I could figure this place out. It is like a joke I just don't get. It was no different this time. I walked in and the bartender/mother was on stage -- obviously it was a joke among the regulars. Still it was jarring to see her up there, as she is older than my grandmother.

There was a dancer tending bar. She had no idea what "soda water" was. Club soda, seltzer, no clue. I settled for tonic on ice.

None of the girls ever come over to talk, to ask me to buy them a drink, to ask for a trip to the back room, or even to ask for tips. They just stand at the bar and talk to the regulars. I have no idea how they make any money.

I was starting to think that they thought I was a cop or something. But then I put that idea to rest when one of the girls (the girl who was tending bar) started to make out with the guy she was sitting with. She worked her way down his chest and all of a sudden was giving him full on oral in the middle of the club. A bunch of the girls went over to watch, but the guys didn't even budge.

Tem minutes later the lights came on and all of a sudden the place was closed. At 11pm? Once again I am stymied about this place. I am gonna go back and see what I can see. Some of the talent is darned attractive.

I went over to C-Mowes. Utopia was there, with her normal high pressure. I wasn't in the mood and told her no. She still insisted on asking me every five minutes. At one point she claimed that I said yes, and even went as far to tell the house mother that she needed a room. After I straightened that out she asked if I would buy her TWO drinks. After a severe talking to she apologized and settled down, but she still asked me to take her to the back every few minutes.

Denise was in a mood and was bitching at the other girls, but was nice enough to me. Didn't take her back though. In the end decided to pass on any action and just went back to the hotel. I like the place and they are starting to know me, but the vibe wasn't right. Another time.

The skinny girl with the glasses that I mentioned below is Jaz, I think. Anyone know about her? She sat by herself at the end of the bar, just moving to go do her dance.

Alex P Keaton
10-29-05, 13:27
Denise was in a mood and was bitching at the other girls, but was nice enough to me. Didn't take her back though.

Good. Join my Denise boycott and see if she gets the hint.


The skinny girl with the glasses that I mentioned below is Jaz, I think. Anyone know about her?

Yes, I know Jasmine pretty well. She's been there for a few years. She is always sweet to me regardless of whether I want to play a card game on the MegaTouch machine or whether I want a BJ, which I appreciate. She is one of the most reliable, least crazy, girls that works there, which puts her in good standing with Mama Eileen. She was pregnant a couple of years ago, and while she has lost the pregnancy weight nicely, it stretched her breasts out. In short, I recommend giving her a try.

KC Questor
10-29-05, 17:14
Good. Join my Denise boycott and see if she gets the hint.


She told me no one had taken her back all night. Could be a lie, but I watched her sit with a guy who took a different girl to the back twice. Even Utopia managed to talk some guy into going back there. Denise never budged. Maybe your boycott is working.

I did like her response when I asked how she was doing. She said "Bored, broke and horny. Wanna help me out?"

brwnilvr
10-30-05, 15:57
There has been several posts on Craigs List by a group saying they are going to start outing the Ladies and their Clients. Just a word of caution.

Phil Anderer76
10-31-05, 10:26
I've been a practitioner of this on and off hobby for a couple of decades now. I've always tried to be "smart" about how I go about this. However, it struck me recently that while I know a lot about how to aviod LE problems, that I have NO CLUE what I'd do if I were ever arrested. I have no idea what would happen, what would be the right things to do or the wrong things to do.

I was wondering if there's any information posted on this site that gives advice on this subject. Also if anyone has had the misfortune of ever going through this and would be willing to share, I think it could be helpful.

Frank Booth
10-31-05, 19:24
I've been a practitioner of this on and off hobby for a couple of decades now. I've always tried to be "smart" about how I go about this. However, it struck me recently that while I know a lot about how to aviod LE problems, that I have NO CLUE what I'd do if I were ever arrested. I have no idea what would happen, what would be the right things to do or the wrong things to do.

I was wondering if there's any information posted on this site that gives advice on this subject. Also if anyone has had the misfortune of ever going through this and would be willing to share, I think it could be helpful.

Be respectful and volunteer nothing. Let your lawyer do the talking if necessary. Lots of info in the archives, esp. the Manhattan thread, if I am not mistaken.

Fred Reed
11-01-05, 07:37
I've been a practitioner of this on and off hobby for a couple of decades now. I've always tried to be "smart" about how I go about this. However, it struck me recently that while I know a lot about how to aviod LE problems, that I have NO CLUE what I'd do if I were ever arrested. I have no idea what would happen, what would be the right things to do or the wrong things to do.

I was wondering if there's any information posted on this site that gives advice on this subject. Also if anyone has had the misfortune of ever going through this and would be willing to share, I think it could be helpful.

RooRooRooster,

I think getting caught by LE is the least of your potential problems. I have been caught 5 times and was never arrested, fined, etc. I always told the truth and didn't try to BS the officers. Give brief answers to their questions and don't tell the LEO more than what he needs to know. None of the girls were arrested either but we were told to take our business someplace else!

I think the real problem is being caught off guard by one of the local thugs who plans to rob or kill you.

Fred

Chicagomax
11-01-05, 12:54
what to do if arrested

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This came from the ACLU website



Know Your Rights: What to do if You're Stopped by the Police

July 30, 2004



What to do if you're stopped by The Police




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To fight police abuse effectively you need to know your rights. There are some things you should do, some things you must do and some things you cannot do. If you are in the middle of a police encounter, you need a handy and quick reference to remind you what your rights and obligations are.

You can photocopy this and carry it in your wallet, pocket or glove compartment to give you quick access to your rights and obligations concerning police encounters.

Click here if you'd like a downloadable version in PDF format.




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Think carefully about your words, movement, body language, and emotions.

Don't get into an argument with the police.

Remember, anything you say or do can be used against you.

Keep your hands where the police can see them.

Don't run. Don't touch any police officer.

Don't resist even if you believe you are innocent.

Don't complain on the scene or tell the police they're wrong or that you're going to file a complaint.

Do not make any statements regarding the incident. Ask for a lawyer immediately upon your arrest.

Remember officers' badge & patrol car numbers.

Write down everything you remember ASAP.

Try to find witnesses & their names & phone numbers.

If you are injured, take photographs of the injuries as soon as possible, but make sure you seek medical attention first.

If you feel your rights have been violated, file a written complaint with police department's internal affairs division or civilian complaint board.

KEEP THIS CARD HANDY!
IF YOU HAVE A POLICE ENCOUNTER, YOU CAN PROTECT YOURSELF.

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1. What you say to the police is always important. What you say can be used against you, and it can give the police an excuse to arrest you, especially if you bad-mouth a police officer.

2. You must show your driver's license and registration when stopped in a car. Otherwise, you don't have to answer any questions if you are detained or arrested, with one important exception. The police may ask for your name if you have been properly detained, and you can be arrested in some states for refusing to give it. If you reasonably fear that your name is incriminating, you can claim the right to remain silent, which may be a defense in case you are arrested anyway.

3. You don't have to consent to any search of yourself, your car or your house. If you DO consent to a search, it can affect your rights later in court. If the police say they have a search warrant, ASK TO SEE IT.

4. Do not interfere with, or obstruct the police -- you can be arrested for it.

IF YOU ARE STOPPED FOR QUESTIONING

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1. It's not a crime to refuse to answer questions, but refusing to answer can make the police suspicious about you. If you are asked to identify yourself, see paragraph 2 above.

2. Police may "pat-down" your clothing if they suspect a concealed weapon. Don't physically resist, but make it clear that you don't consent to any further search.

3. Ask if you are under arrest. If you are, you have a right to know why.

4. Don't bad-mouth the police officer or run away, even if you believe what is happening is unreasonable. That could lead to your arrest.

IF YOU'RE STOPPED IN YOUR CAR

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1. Upon request, show them your driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance. In certain cases, your car can be searched without a warrant as long as the police have probable cause. To protect yourself later, you should make it clear that you do not consent to a search. It is not lawful for police to arrest you simply for refusing to consent to a search.

2. If you're given a ticket, you should sign it; otherwise you can be arrested. You can always fight the case in court later.

3. If you're suspected of drunk driving (DWI) and refuse to take a blood, urine or breath test, your driver's license may be suspended.

IF YOU'RE ARRESTED OR TAKEN TO A POLICE STATION

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1. You have the right to remain silent and to talk to a lawyer before you talk to the police. Tell the police nothing except your name and address. Don't give any explanations, excuses or stories. You can make your defense later, in court, based on what you and your lawyer decide is best.

2. Ask to see a lawyer immediately. If you can't pay for a lawyer, you have a right to a free one, and should ask the police how the lawyer can be contacted. Don't say anything without a lawyer.

3. Within a reasonable time after your arrest, or booking, you have the right to make a local phone call: to a lawyer, bail bondsman, a relative or any other person. The police may not listen to the call to the lawyer.

4. Sometimes you can be released without bail, or have bail lowered. Have your lawyer ask the judge about this possibility. You must be taken before the judge on the next court day after arrest.

5. Do not make any decisions in your case until you have talked with a lawyer.

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1. If the police knock and ask to enter your home, you don't have to admit them unless they have a warrant signed by a judge.

2. However, in some emergency situations (like when a person is screaming for help inside, or when the police are chasing someone) officers are allowed to enter and search your home without a warrant.

3. If you are arrested, the police can search you and the area close by. If you are in a building, "close by" usually means just the room you are in.

We all recognize the need for effective law enforcement, but we should also understand our own rights and responsibilities -- especially in our relationships with the police. Everyone, including minors, has the right to courteous and respectful police treatment.

If your rights are violated, don't try to deal with the situation at the scene. You can discuss the matter with an attorney afterwards, or file a complaint with the Internal Affairs or Civilian Complaint Board.

Produced by the American Civil Liberties Union.

Fred Reed
11-01-05, 19:53
what to do if arrested

IF YOU'RE STOPPED IN YOUR CAR

1. Upon request, show them your driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance. In certain cases, your car can be searched without a warrant as long as the police have probable cause. To protect yourself later, you should make it clear that you do not consent to a search. It is not lawful for police to arrest you simply for refusing to consent to a search.



Max and Others,

I hope we have a few lawers on this forum!

What qualifies as "probable cause" for a car search if you are stopped?

Fred

Phil Anderer76
11-01-05, 20:45
RooRooRooster,

I think getting caught by LE is the least of your potential problems. I have been caught 5 times and was never arrested, fined, etc. I always told the truth and didn't try to BS the officers. Give brief answers to their questions and don't tell the LEO more than what he needs to know. None of the girls were arrested either but we were told to take our business someplace else!

I think the real problem is being caught off guard by one of the local thugs who plans to rob or kill you.

FredThanks to all who have posted on this topic. As much fun and excitement as I get out of this hobby I try not to lose sight of the dangers that are out there. I don't have a regular lawyer. I'm married, kids, the whole 9 yards. I suppose it's an addiction as much as a hobby. Anything I can do to stay safe while doing it helps.

SickPuppy
11-03-05, 01:02
Was up by the canel motel and a little lady knocked on my truck door so i let her in she quoted 25 for bj 30 for straight 40 for 1/2and 1/2 So i said 1/2 and 1/2 started with bbbj then but the cover on then sex had fun for a little time popped when she got of me the cover was broken what do you do when that happens just a question thats about the 4th or 5th time that has happened to me.

Dryerguy
11-04-05, 00:29
Was up by the canel motel and a little lady knocked on my truck door so i let her in she quoted 25 for bj 30 for straight 40 for 1/2and 1/2 So i said 1/2 and 1/2 started with bbbj then but the cover on then sex had fun for a little time popped when she got of me the cover was broken what do you do when that happens just a question thats about the 4th or 5th time that has happened to me.You start by buying the right size, and then you get yourself checked?

Seriously, though, interesting that you found action there near the Canal bridge. I've not had ANY luck there (and it's closer than Brooklyn/Collinsville Road for me. Perhaps they JUST look for truckers, or I'm there at the wrong place @ the wrong time. What time was it that this happened? How long were you parked there before she came up? I have simply taken a quick spin through, rather than sitting idle for a while; perhaps I should alter my approach.

Dryerguy

Dryerguy
11-04-05, 00:36
I've driven past the stroll the past few days, just to keep an eye on things. Obviously, with it getting colder, the SW presence has declined significantly within the past few weeks. I'd be willing to bet that the increased visits by Uncle LEO has also contributed to the sparse selection. Just this evening I saw three running up and down Collinsville Road (turning around @ Club Rio, or what's left of it).

I did see two WSWs this morning, one that stopped traffic as she struggled to say upright in heels to make it across to a monger (the washrack). I've noticed that the Washrack has been DEAD as of late. Collinsville Road still seems to be the best pickings, though that has been sporadic. Tonight saw three BSW (one old, one used/abused, and one HUGE) and one WSW (used/abused for sure). Nothing showing on the Rte 3 turn towards Venice... some days good, some days not.

I've noticed that Tuesday nights seem to be one of the most "populated" nights on the stroll. Not sure why, not sure that I care to understand why. Just an observation.

Dryerguy

Jannisary
11-04-05, 00:42
I heard that PT's had the grand opening for "PT's Brooklyn" yesterday. Did they just rename the Platinum or Roxy's or did they actually open a new club? Did anybody go?

Country Boy #3
11-04-05, 00:55
It's the old Platinum Club.

Fred Reed
11-05-05, 20:08
I picked up a skinny WSW named Amanda around 8:30pm last night on Collinsville Rd. near Exchange Ave. Amanda offered a BBBJ for $20. I had seen this girl before in Brooklyn a few months ago and was not too impressed with her performance. I could tell she was having a slow night and took a chance on her anyway. The service was much better this time!

Fred

Winddance1
11-06-05, 11:59
Toured the Brooklyn area monday afternoon, seen absolutely nothing. Ended up at C-Mowes, first time there. For the first 15 mintues was absolutely ignored. Few moments later Jamie came to the table, started rubbing little winddance, offered back room, bj 60, fs 100. Told her 2 songs was not enough, agreed to have next dancer put on two long songs. She quickly settled for 80 fs. Anyone have any info on her, service was pretty good.

Asswatcher
11-06-05, 12:58
Does anyone have any info on the Pink Slip as of late? I used to live in St Louis for 6 years,and you could always order take-out damn near any night of the week. Is it still like that or have times changed. I'll be there for Thanksgiving and just wanted a heads-up! Thanks

brwnilvr
11-06-05, 17:54
Made a trip buy today hoping for a religious experience or at least a decent BJ not body out at either. Discreet only has one ***** left and she is to be avoided. Wants FS price to give you a hand job. Remodeled it is back as dirty and nasty as ever.

Bend It
11-07-05, 13:38
As of nine months ago, Pink Slip was the same as always. Don't have more up-to-date first-hand info, though.

If you like big titty black b*****s, its hard to beat the Pink Slip. An all-time favorite!

KC Questor
11-09-05, 00:08
Finally managed to get to Chameleon early enough to get a feel for the place. It was still mostly dead, with 3-4 girls and 2-3 guys. Sometimes it is hard to distingush customers from those guys who are just friends of the owner, heh.

Walked up to the stage to give the "dancer" a dollar. I commented that she should be careful to not fall off -- the stage is just a carpeted area of the bar. She looked at me and asked if it was my first time there. I said yes and she said she'd come talk to me.

When she sat down she asked if I had ever been to C-Mowes. I said yes and she said "Well, this is just like that but we have couches in the back and no song limit." She said they have a fixed price of $100. She was not shy about discussing how things worked around there, and she talked for a long time about how much she hates C-Mowes. She didn't hustle drinks at all. In fact, I offered to buy her a drink and she was surprised by that. When she went to the bar to get it, another customer paid fer her drink and she actually returned my money!

I decided to go to the back, and she asked for $30 for the room up front. Once in the back she said she needed $100, but I called her on that and she settled for $70 (total of $100). Stayed back there for more than a few songs (she mentioned that I was gonna give her lockjaw!), and left satisfied.

Definitely more enjoyable backroom than C-Mowes, but at least C-Mowes tries to be a tittie bar. Different places for different moods I suppose.

Nicolet
11-10-05, 00:21
Visited VIP Sunday and saw Coco. She has been there a week . She gave a decent table shower, a decent although brief massage and then proceeded to a very nice bbbj which morphed into a cbj and then covered FS. The bbj switched back and forth between AR, ball sucking and dick sucking. She tried hard to suck me off and end it there but when that wasn't happening she went with the flow. She was good at what she did and gave as much as she got. She had a very smooth pussy and it was nice and tight. She did some very passionate dfk and ar. It was tough to call her age. It could be anywhere from 25 to 37. She's obviously been in the business for a while but she seemed to want to be fun. It wasn't exactly girlfriend but it was close. VIP seems very expensive. Occasionally I can get the ladies down to $1.5 plus the house however usually they stand firm for $$. It is by far the most expensive place around. I understand that a new AMP place has opened up in Swansea-Belleville. Has anyone visited it? I don't have a name or directions.

Ulysses 46
11-10-05, 23:12
I've had many decent, though not outstanding, times at VIP, with the best being with Yuna, Sarah and Cherry (or Sherry).

Not once did I leave more than $ for their families back in Korea. They asked for more, but they were fine with a lot less.

When I can't break away to drive west on I-70 for a couple of hours, I pay my respects to VIP. Usually I leave a little disappointed, since I've had some really good times out west and back east in DC, but never would I go higher than my usual.
Don't spoil the ladies by too much generosity.

U 46

Bend It
11-11-05, 18:12
KC - Sounds like I'll have to checkout Chameleons. Thanks for the report!

Robster87
11-13-05, 23:57
The other day, about a week ago I guess I was truckin' it up to Chicago. I thought I would give the wash rack a try. The last time I was in the area (last summer) I got a decent bbbj from some skinny wsw down by the strip clubs.

The time was about 1:45 am when I parked my rig in the dirt lot across from the clubs. The weather was a little chilly but not too cold and I figured that the clubs would be closing soon so there would probably be some action.

It hadn't been more than two minutes when a pretty bsw strolled up on the door and asked if I wanted a date. I declined. She was pretty and had a nice ass but I usually do not pick-up black girls. It is just not my bag.

From my vantage point I saw 4 or 5 bsw moving around. The cops were driving thru often so the girls kept moving. After about 45 minutes of whatching the cops drive around I was thinking I should not have turned down the pretty bsw. About this time Mr. Policeman was giving me the evil eye when he would roll thru. He knew what I was there for. Alright, I will head down the street and see what I could see. Driving back toward the highway I see that there is several people hanging at the wash rack. I swing aroung and park my rig across the street and eyeball it for a few.

Along comes a blonde wsw. Alright I think to myself just what the doctor ordered. As she was getting closer she was looking rougher. She hops up in the cab and says her name is Glenda. She had a smoking tiny body, small tittys like you would expect on a thin chick. I could not begin to guess her age. She wore a lot of make-up but you could tell she had seen some miles on life's highway. She askes what I was looking for and I replied "a good blowjob". She asked me if I wanted her to get totally naked and I said topless was cool with me. Glenda proceeded to give a wonderful bbbj. Going all the way down and jamming my cock down her throat. Great head and shaft action and she could use her tounge very well. I mention that she should not forget the balls and she worked them as well. I soon busted a nut. She caught it and spit into a paper towell. No swallow. All in all a very good bj. I will ask for her in the future.

LuvtheLife
11-15-05, 23:24
As far as I'm concerned and I'm from out of town, Soft touch is the best place on the east side, tried Chamelion, C-Mowes, Miss Kitty's and felt they were all a waste of time an money, walk in soft touch and wow! Princess knocks my sox off, 20 years old, petite, great breast, and very talented.one franklin and I was smiling big. She couldn't hardly talk as I was leaving, and my god what an ass!

Country Boy #3
11-18-05, 08:12
Has anyone seen Glenda lately?

Jannisary
11-20-05, 20:18
I was back in the area again this weekend and had some fun. I started in Collinsville and took the Collinsville Road to Rte. 3. That just seems a lot safer than getting on the interstate and I figure I might spot a some sw along the way. No luck in spotting any though. The Discrete Motel had some cars in the lot and it looks like they're putting up a new sign up front. The wash rack had a few cars parked there but a ISP car was behind me so I keep going. Probably wouldn't have stopped anyway.

I didn't see any sw on Rte 3 on the way to Brooklyn or any around the clubs. I stopped at Roxy's and PT's Brooklyn (Platinum club) but was really disappointed. In the past trips the quality of girls at Platinum were much higher and they have done away with the $1.99 drink special! They also closed the kitchen but thats probably no big lose. I had never eaten there and was warned not to by one of the dancers. The place was DEAD with only a few girls on the floor and only one stage going. Roxy's had about the same level of dancers as before. Nothing real special looking though. This was early evening so the night shift dancers probably were better but I had places to go, people to see....

It was past supper time and I was getting hungry. Being the cautious type, I headed back to Collinsville and got some food there. Is there any place with decent to good food that a nerdy white guy can safely go to thats closer?

After reloading the grease trap I was ready for some real fun. I headed to Washington Park. My plan was to hit the Hollywood and then finish the evening at c-mowes or take a chance and try the Chameleon. Then I remembered KC's post about getting to chameleon earlier and I recalled that the last time I was in town it was closed by the time I got out of the Hollywood club.

So I stopped in at the chameleon and was pleasantly surprised at how much the place had changed since my first and only other visit almost a year ago. The place had definetly been cleaned up since then and the quality of the girls has improved. I'd rate them the same as C-moes but thats not surprising since several of them used to work there. I recognized one girl who had treated me good when she worked at C-moes and caught her eye. I bought her a drink and the fun and games were on. They have very recently added a stage in a corner. I heard one of the girls had fallen off the bar. I chatted the girl up for a bit, told her I recognized her from c-moes, and she filled me in on some of the details about how things worked at the club. She wanted .3 for the house and 1 for herself for "everything". To avoid any misunderstandings I just came out and asked her to make sure it was for full service. I also asked about time and she told me the .3 got you about thirty minutes.

We started off with some lap dances and her grinding me into the couch. Then we got down to business. Can't say it was the greatest I've ever had but she was good and it was enjoyable. She started with a hj and then cbj and we ended with her riding me to completion.

I think the place has potential but it still needs some work. New couches or beds in the backroom would be an improvement. That was a bit of a concern for me, STDs are always a worry but crabs or lice would be bad too. The couches they've got back there must have been from the 70s. Hopefully if business picks up they will keep fixing the place up some more.

In comparsion to c-moes I would rank the girls about equal, maybe just a little lower. It is more expensive with the .3 to get to the back but that .3 gets you more time and I felt a better experience than the 2 songs at c-moes. I guess it comes down to what you are looking for. If you just want a quick affordable bj than c-moes is probably the better choice. I've gotten bjs at c-moes for anywhere from .3 to .6 and had full service for .7 to 1. Other mongers might be able to get the girls at chameleon to come down from the set 1.0 price and I should have tried harder to do that myself.

I never did make it to the Hollywood club, oh well, there's always nex time.

Fred Reed
11-21-05, 01:14
It was past supper time and I was getting hungry. Being the cautious type, I headed back to Collinsville and got some food there. Is there any place with decent to good food that a nerdy white guy can safely go to thats closer?



Jannisary,

Have you tried the food at the Penthouse club in Sauget? It's closer than Collinsville and the scenery is much nicer.


Fred

Chicagomax
11-22-05, 02:07
I have been up and down 3 about 4 times in the last week at different times and I have seen no sw's. However everytime I have seen the cops. Today I saw state cops ad east St Louis cops parked or crusing and pulling people over. They maybe trying to crack down and clean things up a bit.

I was told today by a guy that that the Discrete Motel is paying the east St Louis cops to leave them alone. He said the place is full of skanky low life babes who are all crackheads. His info is usually pretty good.

Chicagomax
11-22-05, 02:09
Does anyone here ever go to the Colony in Wash Park? I am dating this chick who likes to be watched and she wants to go so people can watch us do it. I have heard some bad stuff about this place and I have no desire to go if there are not other couple there. Any recent info?

brwnilvr
11-22-05, 06:35
The Colony has went down hill the last couple of years but on Friday evening there are usually a few couples there. Discreet Hotel only has one working and she is the worst rip off they ever had.

Fred Reed
11-22-05, 07:56
Does anyone here ever go to the Colony in Wash Park? I am dating this chick who likes to be watched and she wants to go so people can watch us do it. I have heard some bad stuff about this place and I have no desire to go if there are not other couple there. Any recent info?

I stopped there a few years ago. and did't like it. I thought that it was pretty filthy. Similiar to the Discreet Hotel in appearance but with movies.

Fred

Blue Sterling
11-22-05, 11:11
Does anyone here ever go to the Colony in Wash Park? I am dating this chick who likes to be watched and she wants to go so people can watch us do it. I have heard some bad stuff about this place and I have no desire to go if there are not other couple there. Any recent info?


The club that was called "Mustang Sally's" on the road to Brooklyn used to have a couples' night on Saturdays. The back area was set up for it & the upstairs had a play room. It was great. The club has changed names now & I have no clue if they still do couples' night. But, you might want to try the place - at least for a drink - and see what happens.

Taco Hunter
11-22-05, 16:49
I saw Amanda a WSW again the other day and picked her up. However I had to throw her out before I made it one block hopefully one of you mongers with a strong stomach can pick her up and get her to a shower. I had to drive for an extra 20 minutes with the windows down just to get the body odor stench out. and if you pick her up DO NOT let her talk you in to picking up some goodies first as she will run but if you take her somewhere first and insist on service FIRST she does have a nice firm body.

Alex P Keaton
11-22-05, 20:58
The club that was called "Mustang Sally's" on the road to Brooklyn used to have a couples' night on Saturdays. The back area was set up for it & the upstairs had a play room. It was great. The club has changed names now & I have no clue if they still do couples' night. But, you might want to try the place - at least for a drink - and see what happens.

The new name is Club 64 East, and they still do a couples' night once a week (with free cover for couples, so no harm in taking a look), but I haven't tried it myself.

Country Boy #3
11-26-05, 01:17
Had a good time with Leslie tonight. Looks like an 8 next to what I usually see in there. There doesn't seem to be any street action anymore.

brwnilvr
11-26-05, 21:36
Been by theh Truck wash and down Collinsville Rd twice lately and not one lady out for a stroll. LE getting that tough?

IrishIIs
11-26-05, 23:39
Been up and down Collinsville Road a couple of times lately and around the Truck Wash no action at all. Was warned not to try Discreet but my little head was doing the thinking. Paid my twenty to get in for a room only 3 working 2 women and a guy. The white gal had no teeth and was butt ugly the black had serious attitude and to stoned to be of any use to anyone. Left unhappy and horney.

Fred Reed
11-27-05, 09:49
Went cruising along Collinsville road around 10am Friday morning. Didn't see any activity on the 1st three passes. On the 4th pass, Amanda was getting picked up near Lynch Ave. I talked to a skinny blonde named Melissa, a twentysomething with braces on her teeth. Melissa said that she has been on the streets for over a year but I can't recall seeing her before. She encouraged me to play with her breasts while we talked. I never suspected that she was LE but played with them anyway for a cheap thrill. They made a nice hand warmer!

I decided to cruise the streets for awhile and offered to pick Melissa up later in the day if she was still on the street. After Melissa got out of the car, I drove around the block and saw Gigi wearing bib coveralls. Gigi used the name Jasmine when she first appeared on the streets. Somebody posted a picture of her on this forum a few months ago. She has lost about 30 lbs since that picture was taken and looks much better. Especially when she takes off the coveralls. I took her to a hotel in Fairmont for about 5 hours of fun. It was cold and she was in no hurry to get back on the street. Gigi was a GFE with MSOG!

I dropped Gigi off near Lake Ave. and spotted Christina near Exchange Ave.
From a distance she looks like Melissa except that she is about ten years older. I picked up Christina across the summer and would have picked her up again today if she had been out earlier. Maybe next time!

Fred

Chicagomax
11-28-05, 13:35
I have not been there in a a long time and I have a client coming in to town and he wants to go. Is it still a good time or has it become another look only strip club?

KC Questor
11-28-05, 23:00
Only reason to go to the Hustler Club is to say you had been there. It is the most "typical" of all the clubs east of the river. You can still touch, but it is nothing special. Only go here if you are trying to take the client to a classy place.

For a much better experience, go further down Bunkum Road to the Hollywood club. You can't miss the lights. It is a MUCH nicer place. Better girls, more interaction, but still classy and clean. They have better privates than Hustler, and it is a lot cheaper. Hollywood does have tvs on the walls playing porno movies, so it does have a bit of a sleaze factor, but it is worlds above Dollies or Miss Kitty's or C-Mowes.

Bend It
11-29-05, 13:22
Well, that was cryptic. I have no idea what you mean.

Max has alot more posts than you, also . . .

Chicagomax
11-29-05, 17:59
Hey Bendit check out my postings on the st louis general discussion board and that will answer your questions.....sheesh.......some people will say and do anything.

Paces
11-30-05, 23:53
Went cruising up and down 3, went by Lees wash rack about 5: 00-5: 30, nothing happening. Went up near the old buddies, saw BSW, stopped to talk. Two of her brothers drove up on my driver side, asked me what was up. I told them there was nothing going on and left. (Big head still working ok)Went over to highway 111. Up and down 2 times. Nothing. Decided to go back over to Lees wash rack. This time around 2 WSW. One looked young, the other older, could see the older gal. Not good but would work. 5-6 Went around to check the area for Leo. Everything looked ok. Third time I came around the young one was gone. Picked up the older one. She said her name was Rene. Went through you cop me cop. Went to the spot. Settle on the price. She when asks me if I have a tissue. I said sure. (I figure for the clean up). She opens the door. I say whats going on. She says I have to pee. I say give me the money back. She says I am not going steal your jackson. If it was 40K maybe. (little head is in charge). I said hurry up. You got it. GONE. She was about 30-40 hard to tell, some kind of upper lip defect, cut or birth defect. She had on a long light tan colored coat. This happened about 6: 30. Anyone else run into her?

Paces
12-06-05, 23:30
Saw Danielle today. This was my second time with her. She is a tall blonde nice body. She is an 7-8 on a regular scale. I asked if I could daty, she said no. Once we got started she changed her mind. She started with cbj, went to 69, then cowgirl to miss, to cbj and finised with doggy. Everything was covered. I like her alot. I think the more you see her the better she will be. My second time was much better than the first time. ymmv

I saw her roommate Jessica, a few weeks ago. Danielle was much better the Jessica. Jessica may warm up with time, but Daneille is much better to me. Danielle $ with .2 tip. Jessica was $.5 and would not give on the price. Do a search in the River front times. The numbers run in the same ad.

I did cruise up at the Chain of rocks road, just off 270. nothing going on.

I saw were a couple of you PM'd me. I am just learning my way around I will respond now that I know what to look for.

IrishIIs
12-10-05, 06:39
Discreet has a new sign up starting a sports bar on the second floor of the fire trap building. DO NOT be fooled same old tired ass women working. Take your chances on the street and you will be better served.

Setman
12-10-05, 20:11
The only one that seems to get any reviews is VIP in Centreville. Is it a lack of info, or just a bunch of ripoff joints. I'm looking for alternatives to the two hour trip to Columbia.