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Admin
12-31-99, 20:00
Ok this is it, you guys now have your own fight thread because I'm tired of breaking them up.

From now on ALL fights come here. If you don't, and you act like a douche on a REVIEW thread I don't care how long you have been a member you will be back on moderation.

Most of the other rules still apply on this thread, the argumentative ones are gone. I will warn you, no threats. This is the internet, you can call somebody a douche all you want but the line is when you try to move it into reality.

And all, and I mean Fucking ALL of the white knighting bullshit comes here. If you feel the need to review somebodies review, it goes here end of story.

A2

Jjbee62
02-08-16, 07:43
So, if you have read my past posts you know that I fell for the Haley scam already. I know I know. Read the fucking forum. But, since everyone knows that Haley is scamming why not conduct a Daisey operation with her and get her to play right or get off BP?

http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/specials-blonde-petite-treat-sexy-and-skilledopen-mindedyoung-satisfyingnew-pics/10919701

I'm sure this link will be gone as soon as she reads this so I have taken a screen shot of her ad which I hope will be attached. But this is my first time to attach a photo.I went back and read your posts about Haley again, but I don't see any mention that she scammed you. From what I gathered, she didn't provide the services you wanted, after you paid her. Did you, before handing her the donation, confirm that what you wanted was on the table? If not, while she may be a lousy provider, it doesn't sound like much of a scam. Was there a threat of violence that you didn't report?

Lousy providers, the ones using fake pictures, providing minimal service, shorting time, bad hygiene, etc. , seldom last. They are an annoyance, nothing more. And they teach the importance of doing your research.

MrEnvious
02-08-16, 09:03
I went back and read your posts about Haley again, but I don't see any mention that she scammed you. From what I gathered, she didn't provide the services you wanted, after you paid her. Did you, before handing her the donation, confirm that what you wanted was on the table? If not, while she may be a lousy provider, it doesn't sound like much of a scam. Was there a threat of violence that you didn't report?

Lousy providers, the ones using fake pictures, providing minimal service, shorting time, bad hygiene, etc. , seldom last. They are an annoyance, nothing more. And they teach the importance of doing your research.Well we can argue over semantics until the cows come home. But, this will be my last post on the subject. I think most people understand what I mean by a scam. Her ad says this among other things: "I ENJOY IT ALL. LOVE what I do. Fantasies / Fetish friendly".

So to use an analogy. If I advertised a car for sale and told you how great is was on the road, then you showed up and found it didn't have an engine, but that what I meant was that it ran great behind a tow truck. Would you call that a scam, maybe. Maybe not. The point of my post was not to argue over the semantics and definition of the word 'scam' but to suggest using the 'daisy operation' to 'clean' up BP so that it is no longer financially feasible for Haley types to operate. Once they have their time and gas money wasted enough times, they will quit. The only reasons she is still advertising is because it must be paying off.

FarEastMan
02-08-16, 23:34
I've been a lurker for a while, just recently registered.

I don't know anyone, don't really care to know anyone, and I have a lot of self-hate. I'll call up a provider because I need physical touch, get there, and be too grossed out with myself to be able to perform. I'll ask to be snuggled, spooned, held, just touched; and she reacts with weird vibes. Like "Why aren't you trying to go at me greek" or "are you some kind of weird creepy Uncle?" I've met with Sammie, and a couple, and some other one while I was drunk that stole a lot of my cash, but I can't remember her name. I'm not really even sure as to how I found this forum. But the fact is, I can't do anything because I feel so grossed out with myself. But I definitely need someone to hold me. Desperately.

I called one of the Eastern Hemisphere lines on British Petroleum, where you call a number in North Yorkshire, and they call a lady near you to tell her to get ready, and then text you the Sum.

It was quite possibly the worst thing I've ever done as a human being; is how I felt. I had to close my eyes, and not think of the terrible shit she had to do to get here. Living in a cargo container, riding on a ship that sailed across the pacific. I'll give 4/10 with looks. In retrospect, it was probably a South Korean man in drag. But still. It just added to my self-hate. And I don't even know why I did it. I have no real wanting for it. I was just hungover, and needing someone else to help relieve me of duty.

Anyone else where I am? Where you're grossed out about yourself, get no enjoyment out of hobbying, but still do it anyway? I looked in the new user faq and couldn't find much about it. Apologies if I'm breaking any rules.

IndyGuy123
02-08-16, 23:40
I had scheduled for the last two Saturdays to see a popular provider on this site who has gone UTR. Two Saturdays ago she cancelled on me just a couple of hours before we were supposed to meet. And she didn't tell me why.

I then setup an appointment for this past Saturday. She was so apologetic about the week before. We texted back an forth a lot and she told me she was so excited to meet me. I told her the feeling was mutual.

She promised me a real GFE and had me hooked like the gullible fish I am. Then this past Saturday she texted me to say she was going shopping and had to cancel.

What! That sounds more like a wife experience than a Girl Friend Experience.

Now I know this sounds crazy but I had the screen prints to show a certain Senior Member on this board as proof. If you ask him he can show it to you. I promised not to post anything about this UTR so I can only tell you the circumstances without naming names.

My bad luck just keeps on going!

But, it goes to show you why. I'm still envious of all of you.Respecting her wishes to stay off the board by name, cannot say her name but I can say this story is completely true.

Indy Guy.

Jjbee62
02-09-16, 02:49
Well we can argue over semantics until the cows come home. But, this will be my last post on the subject. I think most people understand what I mean by a scam. Her ad says this among other things: "I ENJOY IT ALL. LOVE what I do. Fantasies / Fetish friendly".

So to use an analogy. If I advertised a car for sale and told you how great is was on the road, then you showed up and found it didn't have an engine, but that what I meant was that it ran great behind a tow truck. Would you call that a scam, maybe. Maybe not. The point of my post was not to argue over the semantics and definition of the word 'scam' but to suggest using the 'daisy operation' to 'clean' up BP so that it is no longer financially feasible for Haley types to operate. Once they have their time and gas money wasted enough times, they will quit. The only reasons she is still advertising is because it must be paying off.If you advertised a car in that way, I'd take one look, laugh and go back home. I wouldn't get several people to harass you about it.

The sad truth, BP ads are rarely accurate. Nearly every BP review mentions something, old pictures, fake pictures, no BBBJ, only 1 position, etc. Do you really expect the forum members to launch a campaign every time a monger comes crying? "She wouldn't allow DATY, punish her. " "Her ad said petite blonde and she's a chubby brunette, she must be stopped. ".

If you feel the need to launch a vendetta every time a provider doesn't live up to her ad or your expectations, you need to pick another hobby.

MrEnvious
02-09-16, 10:07
If you advertised a car in that way, I'd take one look, laugh and go back home. I wouldn't get several people to harass you about it.

The sad truth, BP ads are rarely accurate. Nearly every BP review mentions something, old pictures, fake pictures, no BBBJ, only 1 position, etc. Do you really expect the forum members to launch a campaign every time a monger comes crying? "She wouldn't allow DATY, punish her. " "Her ad said petite blonde and she's a chubby brunette, she must be stopped. ".

If you feel the need to launch a vendetta every time a provider doesn't live up to her ad or your expectations, you need to pick another hobby.I know I said I wasn't going to keep arguing this point. But when I'm being accused of a vendetta, etc. I think there is a need for clarification. It's not about me. I don't think the Daisy Operation was a vendetta. The point is that Indianapolis BP has a much larger percentage of 'bad' ones than surrounding cities. It is way worse than Miami and Fort Lauderdale also. The point is that the good providers are hurt by the bad ones. Once the traveling business man spends his BP money on a bad one, the good one's lose out. It hurts the reputation of Indianapolis among convention goers. They would rather have their conventions some where else. So, it's not about revenge, or vendettas. It's about helping the good providers. I'm not suggesting that every bad one that pops up get the Daisy treatment. I'm just referring to the ones that are consistently advertising and not providing. And clearly I'm not referring to blonds who advertise as redheads or those who use a thinner picture of themselves.

Now, I am finished with this subject. I think by now I've made my point clear.

Admin2
02-09-16, 10:28
Clearly you have some agenda so I thought I would put it here instead of moving it later.

A2


I've been a lurker for a while, just recently registered.

I don't know anyone, don't really care to know anyone, and I have a lot of self-hate. I'll call up a provider because I need physical touch, get there, and be too grossed out with myself to be able to perform. I'll ask to be snuggled, spooned, held, just touched; and she reacts with weird vibes. Like "Why aren't you trying to go at me greek" or "are you some kind of weird creepy Uncle?" I've met with Sammie, and a couple, and some other one while I was drunk that stole a lot of my cash, but I can't remember her name. I'm not really even sure as to how I found this forum. But the fact is, I can't do anything because I feel so grossed out with myself. But I definitely need someone to hold me. Desperately.

I called one of the Eastern Hemisphere lines on British Petroleum, where you call a number in North Yorkshire, and they call a lady near you to tell her to get ready, and then text you the Sum.

It was quite possibly the worst thing I've ever done as a human being; is how I felt. I had to close my eyes, and not think of the terrible shit she had to do to get here. Living in a cargo container, riding on a ship that sailed across the pacific. I'll give 4/10 with looks. In retrospect, it was probably a South Korean man in drag. But still. It just added to my self-hate. And I don't even know why I did it. I have no real wanting for it. I was just hungover, and needing someone else to help relieve me of duty.

Anyone else where I am? Where you're grossed out about yourself, get no enjoyment out of hobbying, but still do it anyway? I looked in the new user faq and couldn't find much about it. Apologies if I'm breaking any rules.

Freckle Freak
02-09-16, 10:50
Ok this is it, you guys now have your own fight thread because I'm tired of breaking them up.

From now on ALL fights come here. If you don't, and you act like a douche on a REVIEW thread I don't care how long you have been a member you will be back on moderation.

Most of the other rules still apply on this thread, the argumentative ones are gone. I will warn you, no threats. This is the internet, you can call somebody a douche all you want but the line is when you try to move it into reality.

And all, and I mean Fucking ALL of the white knighting bullshit comes here. If you feel the need to review somebodies review, it goes here end of story.

A2Nice job A2 on naming the fight thread. I like your style. I'm just surprised and glad it wasn't one of my posts that caused this Indy intervention. The Hulman's would be proud of your play on words!

FF.

P.S. I have been trying to keep my freckles in check lately.

Nostra3
02-09-16, 10:53
I've been a lurker for a while, just recently registered.

I don't know anyone, don't really care to know anyone, and I have a lot of self-hate. I'll call up a provider because I need physical touch, get there, and be too grossed out with myself to be able to perform. I'll ask to be snuggled, spooned, held, just touched; and she reacts with weird vibes. Like "Why aren't you trying to go at me greek" or "are you some kind of weird creepy Uncle?" I've met with Sammie, and a couple, and some other one while I was drunk that stole a lot of my cash, but I can't remember her name. I'm not really even sure as to how I found this forum. But the fact is, I can't do anything because I feel so grossed out with myself. But I definitely need someone to hold me. Desperately.

I called one of the Eastern Hemisphere lines on British Petroleum, where you call a number in North Yorkshire, and they call a lady near you to tell her to get ready, and then text you the Sum.

It was quite possibly the worst thing I've ever done as a human being; is how I felt. I had to close my eyes, and not think of the terrible shit she had to do to get here. Living in a cargo container, riding on a ship that sailed across the pacific. I'll give 4/10 with looks. In retrospect, it was probably a South Korean man in drag. But still. It just added to my self-hate. And I don't even know why I did it. I have no real wanting for it. I was just hungover, and needing someone else to help relieve me of duty.

Anyone else where I am? Where you're grossed out about yourself, get no enjoyment out of hobbying, but still do it anyway? I looked in the new user faq and couldn't find much about it. Apologies if I'm breaking any rules.Perhaps you should go to confession. Or therapy, or sex addicts anonymous. Try meeting one of the women who are here because they love their job rather than some BP girls with a pimp and a bad drug habit? Maybe you should just find a friend, or get a dog?

I suspect your post was just an attempt to try to make us feel bad about ourselves and, speaking for myself, you failed. I'm not trying to get affection from anyone who was trafficked or forced to provide. The guys I know personally on here aren't trying to either. So take your Catholic guilt to an appropriate priest who can forgive you and ensure you can do this over and over again and still get into the non-existent afterlife of your choosing.

IndyGuy123
02-09-16, 11:05
I've been a lurker for a while, just recently registered.

I don't know anyone, don't really care to know anyone, and I have a lot of self-hate. I'll call up a provider because I need physical touch, get there, and be too grossed out with myself to be able to perform. I'll ask to be snuggled, spooned, held, just touched; and she reacts with weird vibes. Like "Why aren't you trying to go at me greek" or "are you some kind of weird creepy Uncle?" I've met with Sammie, and a couple, and some other one while I was drunk that stole a lot of my cash, but I can't remember her name. I'm not really even sure as to how I found this forum. But the fact is, I can't do anything because I feel so grossed out with myself. But I definitely need someone to hold me. Desperately.

I called one of the Eastern Hemisphere lines on British Petroleum, where you call a number in North Yorkshire, and they call a lady near you to tell her to get ready, and then text you the Sum.

It was quite possibly the worst thing I've ever done as a human being; is how I felt. I had to close my eyes, and not think of the terrible shit she had to do to get here. Living in a cargo container, riding on a ship that sailed across the pacific. I'll give 4/10 with looks. In retrospect, it was probably a South Korean man in drag. But still. It just added to my self-hate. And I don't even know why I did it. I have no real wanting for it. I was just hungover, and needing someone else to help relieve me of duty.

Anyone else where I am? Where you're grossed out about yourself, get no enjoyment out of hobbying, but still do it anyway? I looked in the new user faq and couldn't find much about it. Apologies if I'm breaking any rules.I am going to be much shorter than my compadre and just as one question. What the fuck are you rambling about?

Indy Guy.

Hey FF and Nos, you assholes beat me. I wanted to be the first to pop the Prickyard Cherry.

Freckle Freak
02-09-16, 11:57
I've been a lurker for a while, just recently registered. I don't know anyone, don't really care to know anyone, and I have a lot of self-hate. Anyone else where I am? Where you're grossed out about yourself, get no enjoyment out of hobbying, but still do it anyway? I looked in the new user faq and couldn't find much about it. Apologies if I'm breaking any rules.It's called Sexaholics Anonymous and it's just for those that have a lot of self-hate, grossed out, no longer enjoying the hobby, affecting their home life and life in general. It has a twelve step program to deal with your pain and sobriety. If you don't feel comfortable with SA (not to be confused with Seeking Arrangements) then try NA or AA which are similar in design.

By the way I don't participate in AMPs because I think there is a definite hint of some type of trafficking. Not saying it's true, just don't feel comfortable with the possibility. I also have never nor will I ever see a SW because it's a drug infested avenue of sex. The first time I ever saw one up close was a preview of the walking dead before it was ever written. I drove by her and 30 seconds later a guy picked her up. No thanks, neither are for me but I don't have a problem if others partake. It's called freedom of choice.

Now more to the point. Yes, I am turned off. I was talking to several hobby friends yesterday afternoon at the incall of a blond car date. I was telling them that the hobby just isn't what it used to be when Sensory Surprise, Elle, SlutCake, Megan and many others were active, clean and fun. BP is 90% druggies and now the drug of choice is Heroin. After my experiences with Ursula and most recent Leslie / Daisy I'm done. For those of you that want a reliable and clean BP provider see Leah, Erica and Allison, Natalie or Sara. There may be a couple of others that I am missing but do your research. It's time for the freckle freak to bow out because the very narrow band of providers that are clean, fun and my type just are disappearing faster than heroin's Mach 1 take over in society. I have a freckled GF that I care very much for and even though her health is not good she does her best to meet my needs. I still will be on the board, continuing to give out info, provide help when needed. You will no longer have to put up with all my Post Script notes because that was my active hobby side (I know many of you will not miss them and are thankful they are gone.) I have many friends on here that will be friends for life. I am finished because it's just not fun anymore. BP sucks. Research is so much more important than it used to be because of the loss of some major sites. The sister site is promising and hopefully will be a top notch ad site but you still will have to do your research.

I still love the thrill of the hunt in strip clubs, met my GF there, and will continue but ammunition is lacking. I have found some great GFE providers in the past but so few anymore. It's just not as much fun as it used to be in the old days. I am older, not necessarily wiser, balding and heavier. I still give one hell of a freckle massage, love connecting the dots and have been told by two lesbian ladies that I have a typical white mans dick and a black tongue. So I'm not gone, just on the sidelines, so all of you serious mongers can take the lead and plow through the current drug infested world of providers. I will always be on the look out for a very freckled full GFE clean lady. I just can't' help looking because a lady like that, red, brunette, or blond is soooooo hard to find.

So IG 1009 hobby posts. Oh well, play it again Sam!

FF.

P.S. Last time for freckled post scripts and they are still the best thing mother nature ever bestowed on a female body.

P. P.S. Hopefully I will not get a PM asking me once again "What do freckles really mean, some type of code word?" It is a small patch of light brown color on the skin. Got it!

Freckle Freak
02-09-16, 12:02
Perhaps you should go to confession. Or therapy, or sex addicts anonymous. Try meeting one of the women who are here because they love their job rather than some BP girls with a pimp and a bad drug habit? Maybe you should just find a friend, or get a dog?

I suspect your post was just an attempt to try to make us feel bad about ourselves and, speaking for myself, you failed. I'm not trying to get affection from anyone who was trafficked or forced to provide. The guys I know personally on here aren't trying to either. So take your Catholic guilt to an appropriate priest who can forgive you and ensure you can do this over and over again and still get into the non-existent afterlife of your choosing.Because too many of the Catholic priests are pedofiles and still working in the church. Rome turns it's head and pays off the families for their silence! The most hypocritical religious group that man ever invented. Light a candle and say twelve hail marys and you are absolved.

SnapDragon
02-09-16, 12:06
I've been a lurker for a while, just recently registered.

I don't know anyone, don't really care to know anyone, and I have a lot of self-hate. I'll call up a provider because I need physical touch, get there, and be too grossed out with myself to be able to perform. I'll ask to be snuggled, spooned, held, just touched; and she reacts with weird vibes. Like "Why aren't you trying to go at me greek" or "are you some kind of weird creepy Uncle?" I've met with Sammie, and a couple, and some other one while I was drunk that stole a lot of my cash, but I can't remember her name. I'm not really even sure as to how I found this forum. But the fact is, I can't do anything because I feel so grossed out with myself. But I definitely need someone to hold me. Desperately.

I called one of the Eastern Hemisphere lines on British Petroleum, where you call a number in North Yorkshire, and they call a lady near you to tell her to get ready, and then text you the Sum.

It was quite possibly the worst thing I've ever done as a human being; is how I felt. I had to close my eyes, and not think of the terrible shit she had to do to get here. Living in a cargo container, riding on a ship that sailed across the pacific. I'll give 4/10 with looks. In retrospect, it was probably a South Korean man in drag. But still. It just added to my self-hate. And I don't even know why I did it. I have no real wanting for it. I was just hungover, and needing someone else to help relieve me of duty.

Anyone else where I am? Where you're grossed out about yourself, get no enjoyment out of hobbying, but still do it anyway? I looked in the new user faq and couldn't find much about it. Apologies if I'm breaking any rules.I know where you are coming from;.

I think part of the problem is the public perception caused by the media and organized religion that a girl doing this kind of work is forced into it, dirty and infected with something.

The fact is even though this is always possible it is not the norm. Hence the reason for this forum.

Most girls just need the money. Most are independent. And most are clean. But always keep it covered just the same. If she offers bare back kindly say no thank you and let us know in your review on here. Maybe she is just new and doesn't know. Maybe she has a pharmacutical problem and just doesn't care.

We share with each other our experiences, good / bad / ugly and work as a community to not only help each other but the girls as well.

If the girl is good, clean and reliable we will pass that along to each other.

This helps us keep from getting ripped off or robbed and it helps the girls get clients they can trust not to pimps or thugs or even uncle. We promote the good ones and dismiss the bad ones.

It is a system that works.

As far as the girls coming in on a boat that does happen. But if you see a girl and she obviously isn't doing this because she wants to. Appears that she is being forced into this then as a community we need to know and try and help.

If you listen to the media ALL the girls are forced to do this kind of work. I have been a monger since 1987. I can tell you for a fact that is far from the truth.

I don't believe that the girls that are forced usually advertise because then someone would see their face and friends / family might put two and two together. I think the girls that are forced are either walking the street or are some dark net advertising. Usually underaged and / or foreign. I am not sing none of the ones on BP or CL are being forced. I am sure some are. But from my experience that would be a very small percentage.

My two cents.

Snapdragon.

Be safe.

LancePkrbttm
02-09-16, 12:12
I read what you wrote and frankly you probably don't need to see providers. Not trying to be a hypocrite and call my own personal acting out on compulsive behaviors healthy by any means. I would talk to your health care provider about these feelings. Get a recommendation for a good therapist. I have been seeing one for a while (no she doesn't have a lot of freckles) the last year and I can't even express the difference.

I've been backing off the Asian places for the same reason. And somewhat trying to avoid addicts. I'm finding myself more and more sensitive to situations that I think have potential for human suffering. So I'm choosing not to support that. But we can only do so much as individuals and maybe a little more organized.

Take care of yourself and get help. You will probably like yourself a lot better after. Take care.


I've been a lurker for a while, just recently registered.

I don't know anyone, don't really care to know anyone, and I have a lot of self-hate. I'll call up a provider because I need physical touch, get there, and be too grossed out with myself to be able to perform. I'll ask to be snuggled, spooned, held, just touched; and she reacts with weird vibes. Like "Why aren't you trying to go at me greek" or "are you some kind of weird creepy Uncle?" I've met with Sammie, and a couple, and some other one while I was drunk that stole a lot of my cash, but I can't remember her name. I'm not really even sure as to how I found this forum. But the fact is, I can't do anything because I feel so grossed out with myself. But I definitely need someone to hold me. Desperately.

I called one of the Eastern Hemisphere lines on British Petroleum, where you call a number in North Yorkshire, and they call a lady near you to tell her to get ready, and then text you the Sum.

It was quite possibly the worst thing I've ever done as a human being; is how I felt. I had to close my eyes, and not think of the terrible shit she had to do to get here. Living in a cargo container, riding on a ship that sailed across the pacific. I'll give 4/10 with looks. In retrospect, it was probably a South Korean man in drag. But still. It just added to my self-hate. And I don't even know why I did it. I have no real wanting for it. I was just hungover, and needing someone else to help relieve me of duty.

Anyone else where I am? Where you're grossed out about yourself, get no enjoyment out of hobbying, but still do it anyway? I looked in the new user faq and couldn't find much about it. Apologies if I'm breaking any rules.

FqIdiot
02-09-16, 12:15
I was telling them that the hobby just isn't what it used to be when Sensory Surprise, Elle, SlutCake, Megan and many others were active, clean and fun. BP is 90% druggies and now the drug of choice is Heroin.Agree with you on the quality of BP providers these days. Either want to rob you, have you spot them money for their next fix, or fall well short of the standards others set for them. My personal favorite from the past was Abby. While expensive, I spent a few evenings with her that I will never forget.

As for the OP, pretty sure I know who / why they put this post out there. All a result of a member on this board sharing information with them, resulting in a failed attempt at being a comedian.

God speed FF. I'm sure you'll be back to your old ways soon!

FQ.

IndyGuy123
02-09-16, 12:46
Too much work to edit the quote reply so it will all be here.

Time for the sappy reply shit. You my friend are appreciated by me in this hobby. You and another name that has recently bowed out are responsible for getting me to the point I am in this hobby. It was the knowledge of you and him and your willingness to help that opened up hobby doors for me that would have taken years to break down on my own. Now the 1000 post note to you seems erely ominous.

Now for the lesson to newbies or just newbies on this forum. Contribute to the forum, be willing to post reports, toftt, and all that good stuff. However, read the posts very closely of some of the long time senior members. There is a plethora or hobby knowledge that will frequently be shared but only if you are willing to listen and are respectful to them and the monger community.

Indy Guy *tear tear*.

Of course you will still be harassed for the be & be (beer and boobies).


It's called Sexaholics Anonymous and it's just for those that have a lot of self-hate, grossed out, no longer enjoying the hobby, affecting their home life and life in general. It has a twelve step program to deal with your pain and sobriety. If you don't feel comfortable with SA (not to be confused with Seeking Arrangements) then try NA or AA which are similar in design.

By the way I don't participate in AMPs because I think there is a definite hint of some type of trafficking. Not saying it's true, just don't feel comfortable with the possibility. I also have never nor will I ever see a SW because it's a drug infested avenue of sex. The first time I ever saw one up close was a preview of the walking dead before it was ever written. I drove by her and 30 seconds later a guy picked her up. No thanks, neither are for me but I don't have a problem if others partake. It's called freedom of choice.

Now more to the point. Yes, I am turned off. I was talking to several hobby friends yesterday afternoon at the incall of a blond car date. I was telling them that the hobby just isn't what it used to be when Sensory Surprise, Elle, SlutCake, Megan and many others were active, clean and fun. BP is 90% druggies and now the drug of choice is Heroin. After my experiences with Ursula and most recent Leslie / Daisy I'm done. For those of you that want a reliable and clean BP provider see Leah, Erica and Allison, Natalie or Sara. There may be a couple of others that I am missing but do your research. It's time for the freckle freak to bow out because the very narrow band of providers that are clean, fun and my type just are disappearing faster than heroin's Mach 1 take over in society. I have a freckled GF that I care very much for and even though her health is not good she does her best to meet my needs. I still will be on the board, continuing to give out info, provide help when needed. You will no longer have to put up with all my Post Script notes because that was my active hobby side (I know many of you will not miss them and are thankful they are gone.) I have many friends on here that will be friends for life. I am finished because it's just not fun anymore. BP sucks. Research is so much more important than it used to be because of the loss of some major sites. The sister site is promising and hopefully will be a top notch ad site but you still will have to do your research.

I still love the thrill of the hunt in strip clubs, met my GF there, and will continue but ammunition is lacking. I have found some great GFE providers in the past but so few anymore. It's just not as much fun as it used to be in the old days. I am older, not necessarily wiser, balding and heavier. I still give one hell of a freckle massage, love connecting the dots and have been told by two lesbian ladies that I have a typical white mans dick and a black tongue. So I'm not gone, just on the sidelines, so all of you serious mongers can take the lead and plow through the current drug infested world of providers. I will always be on the look out for a very freckled full GFE clean lady. I just can't' help looking because a lady like that, red, brunette, or blond is soooooo hard to find.

So IG 1009 hobby posts. Oh well, play it again Sam!

FF.

P.S. Last time for freckled post scripts and they are still the best thing mother nature ever bestowed on a female body.

P. P.S. Hopefully I will not get a PM asking me once again "What do freckles really mean, some type of code word?" It is a small patch of light brown color on the skin. Got it!

Mwdude
02-09-16, 13:02
I know I said I wasn't going to keep arguing this point. But when I'm being accused of a vendetta, etc. I think there is a need for clarification. It's not about me. I don't think the Daisy Operation was a vendetta. The point is that Indianapolis BP has a much larger percentage of 'bad' ones than surrounding cities. It is way worse than Miami and Fort Lauderdale also. The point is that the good providers are hurt by the bad ones. Once the traveling business man spends his BP money on a bad one, the good one's lose out. It hurts the reputation of Indianapolis among convention goers. They would rather have their conventions some where else. So, it's not about revenge, or vendettas. It's about helping the good providers. I'm not suggesting that every bad one that pops up get the Daisy treatment. I'm just referring to the ones that are consistently advertising and not providing. And clearly I'm not referring to blonds who advertise as redheads or those who use a thinner picture of themselves.

Now, I am finished with this subject. I think by now I've made my point clear.BP is like Vegas -people know guys are going to throw down their money without knowing all the facts and being smart about it, so they just go ahead and rake in the stupid money.

When you remember this, you make far better decisions on BP, assuming you stay there at all.

LancePkrbttm
02-09-16, 13:29
I wish you a fond farewell. You are actually the only monger I ever met in person. Just a few short years ago things were a lot better. Looking at the increasing rate of OD from H along with this observational evidence I've drawn the same conclusions. Continuing in the hobby only enables human suffering unless one is extremely choosy. Unfortunately being choosy has never been a strong suit of mine, thus Leslie / Daisy. Take care and best of luck.

Lance.


It's called Sexaholics Anonymous and it's just for those that have a lot of self-hate, grossed out, no longer enjoying the hobby, affecting their home life and life in general. It has a twelve step program to deal with your pain and sobriety. If you don't feel comfortable with SA (not to be confused with Seeking Arrangements) then try NA or AA which are similar in design.

By the way I don't participate in AMPs because I think there is a definite hint of some type of trafficking. Not saying it's true, just don't feel comfortable with the possibility. I also have never nor will I ever see a SW because it's a drug infested avenue of sex. The first time I ever saw one up close was a preview of the walking dead before it was ever written. I drove by her and 30 seconds later a guy picked her up. No thanks, neither are for me but I don't have a problem if others partake. It's called freedom of choice.

Now more to the point. Yes, I am turned off. I was talking to several hobby friends yesterday afternoon at the incall of a blond car date. I was telling them that the hobby just isn't what it used to be when Sensory Surprise, Elle, SlutCake, Megan and many others were active, clean and fun. BP is 90% druggies and now the drug of choice is Heroin. After my experiences with Ursula and most recent Leslie / Daisy I'm done. For those of you that want a reliable and clean BP provider see Leah, Erica and Allison, Natalie or Sara. There may be a couple of others that I am missing but do your research. It's time for the freckle freak to bow out because the very narrow band of providers that are clean, fun and my type just are disappearing faster than heroin's Mach 1 take over in society. I have a freckled GF that I care very much for and even though her health is not good she does her best to meet my needs. I still will be on the board, continuing to give out info, provide help when needed. You will no longer have to put up with all my Post Script notes because that was my active hobby side (I know many of you will not miss them and are thankful they are gone.) I have many friends on here that will be friends for life. I am finished because it's just not fun anymore. BP sucks. Research is so much more important than it used to be because of the loss of some major sites. The sister site is promising and hopefully will be a top notch ad site but you still will have to do your research.

I still love the thrill of the hunt in strip clubs, met my GF there, and will continue but ammunition is lacking. I have found some great GFE providers in the past but so few anymore. It's just not as much fun as it used to be in the old days. I am older, not necessarily wiser, balding and heavier. I still give one hell of a freckle massage, love connecting the dots and have been told by two lesbian ladies that I have a typical white mans dick and a black tongue. So I'm not gone, just on the sidelines, so all of you serious mongers can take the lead and plow through the current drug infested world of providers. I will always be on the look out for a very freckled full GFE clean lady. I just can't' help looking because a lady like that, red, brunette, or blond is soooooo hard to find.

So IG 1009 hobby posts. Oh well, play it again Sam!

FF.

P.S. Last time for freckled post scripts and they are still the best thing mother nature ever bestowed on a female body.

P. P.S. Hopefully I will not get a PM asking me once again "What do freckles really mean, some type of code word?" It is a small patch of light brown color on the skin. Got it!

DoggyStyle4690
02-09-16, 13:35
It's called Sexaholics Anonymous and it's just for those that have a lot of self-hate, grossed out, no longer enjoying the hobby, affecting their home life and life in general. It has a twelve step program to deal with your pain and sobriety. If you don't feel comfortable with SA (not to be confused with Seeking Arrangements) then try NA or AA which are similar in design.

By the way I don't participate in AMPs because I think there is a definite hint of some type of trafficking. Not saying it's true, just don't feel comfortable with the possibility. I also have never nor will I ever see a SW because it's a drug infested avenue of sex. The first time I ever saw one up close was a preview of the walking dead before it was ever written. I drove by her and 30 seconds later a guy picked her up. No thanks, neither are for me but I don't have a problem if others partake. It's called freedom of choice.

Now more to the point. Yes, I am turned off. I was talking to several hobby friends yesterday afternoon at the incall of a blond car date. I was telling them that the hobby just isn't what it used to be when Sensory Surprise, Elle, SlutCake, Megan and many others were active, clean and fun. BP is 90% druggies and now the drug of choice is Heroin. After my experiences with Ursula and most recent Leslie / Daisy I'm done. For those of you that want a reliable and clean BP provider see Leah, Erica and Allison, Natalie or Sara. There may be a couple of others that I am missing but do your research. It's time for the freckle freak to bow out because the very narrow band of providers that are clean, fun and my type just are disappearing faster than heroin's Mach 1 take over in society. I have a freckled GF that I care very much for and even though her health is not good she does her best to meet my needs. I still will be on the board, continuing to give out info, provide help when needed. You will no longer have to put up with all my Post Script notes because that was my active hobby side (I know many of you will not miss them and are thankful they are gone.) I have many friends on here that will be friends for life. I am finished because it's just not fun anymore. BP sucks. Research is so much more important than it used to be because of the loss of some major sites. The sister site is promising and hopefully will be a top notch ad site but you still will have to do your research.

I still love the thrill of the hunt in strip clubs, met my GF there, and will continue but ammunition is lacking. I have found some great GFE providers in the past but so few anymore. It's just not as much fun as it used to be in the old days. I am older, not necessarily wiser, balding and heavier. I still give one hell of a freckle massage, love connecting the dots and have been told by two lesbian ladies that I have a typical white mans dick and a black tongue. So I'm not gone, just on the sidelines, so all of you serious mongers can take the lead and plow through the current drug infested world of providers. I will always be on the look out for a very freckled full GFE clean lady. I just can't' help looking because a lady like that, red, brunette, or blond is soooooo hard to find.

So IG 1009 hobby posts. Oh well, play it again Sam!

FF.

P.S. Last time for freckled post scripts and they are still the best thing mother nature ever bestowed on a female body.

P. P.S. Hopefully I will not get a PM asking me once again "What do freckles really mean, some type of code word?" It is a small patch of light brown color on the skin. Got it!I've been on this board for a long time and around the hobby for even longer. I don't post much because I've always tried to keep a low profile, plus I haven't hobbied much in Indy since the days of Mythic Maiden and Hot Friends, so I really don't have much to offer in the way of provider intel anyway. But your post here struck a chord with me.

I'm older, balder, heavier as well and couldn't agree more the hobby definitely isn't what it used to be. There's too much BS, too many scammers, too many fakes, too many flakes, too many risks, and too many young ones into the pharmaceuticals. There are still a handful of gems out there but they're getting to be few and far between. Personally. When it gets to be more of a chore than recreation. It's time to retire.

BigGuyUAteMe
02-09-16, 13:51
IndyGuy, I have had a pleasure meeting some of the members of this board (great guys).

Freckle Freak has been a great friend to me and I bet to a lot of others and a wealth of knowledge. Thank you FF!

I have been seeing more and more of what FF is talking about. Fuck man I grew up in the 70's, this H is destroying our country, it's everywhere in all walks of life not just the hobby! It seems to be getting worse and worse? WFT.

BG.


Too much work to edit the quote reply so it will all be here.

Time for the sappy reply shit. You my friend are appreciated by me in this hobby. You and another name that has recently bowed out are responsible for getting me to the point I am in this hobby. It was the knowledge of you and him and your willingness to help that opened up hobby doors for me that would have taken years to break down on my own. Now the 1000 post note to you seems erely ominous.

Now for the lesson to newbies or just newbies on this forum. Contribute to the forum, be willing to post reports, toftt, and all that good stuff. However, read the posts very closely of some of the long time senior members. There is a plethora or hobby knowledge that will frequently be shared but only if you are willing to listen and are respectful to them and the monger community.

Indy Guy *tear tear*.

Of course you will still be harassed for the be & be (beer and boobies).

Mwdude
02-09-16, 14:11
It's called Sexaholics Anonymous and it's just for those that have a lot of self-hate, grossed out, no longer enjoying the hobby, affecting their home life and life in general. It has a twelve step program to deal with your pain and sobriety. If you don't feel comfortable with SA (not to be confused with Seeking Arrangements) then try NA or AA which are similar in design.

By the way I don't participate in AMPs because I think there is a definite hint of some type of trafficking. Not saying it's true, just don't feel comfortable with the possibility. I also have never nor will I ever see a SW because it's a drug infested avenue of sex. The first time I ever saw one up close was a preview of the walking dead before it was ever written. I drove by her and 30 seconds later a guy picked her up. No thanks, neither are for me but I don't have a problem if others partake. It's called freedom of choice.

Now more to the point. Yes, I am turned off. I was talking to several hobby friends yesterday afternoon at the incall of a blond car date. I was telling them that the hobby just isn't what it used to be when Sensory Surprise, Elle, SlutCake, Megan and many others were active, clean and fun. BP is 90% druggies and now the drug of choice is Heroin. After my experiences with Ursula and most recent Leslie / Daisy I'm done. For those of you that want a reliable and clean BP provider see Leah, Erica and Allison, Natalie or Sara. There may be a couple of others that I am missing but do your research. It's time for the freckle freak to bow out because the very narrow band of providers that are clean, fun and my type just are disappearing faster than heroin's Mach 1 take over in society. I have a freckled GF that I care very much for and even though her health is not good she does her best to meet my needs. I still will be on the board, continuing to give out info, provide help when needed. You will no longer have to put up with all my Post Script notes because that was my active hobby side (I know many of you will not miss them and are thankful they are gone.) I have many friends on here that will be friends for life. I am finished because it's just not fun anymore. BP sucks. Research is so much more important than it used to be because of the loss of some major sites. The sister site is promising and hopefully will be a top notch ad site but you still will have to do your research.

I still love the thrill of the hunt in strip clubs, met my GF there, and will continue but ammunition is lacking. I have found some great GFE providers in the past but so few anymore. It's just not as much fun as it used to be in the old days. I am older, not necessarily wiser, balding and heavier. I still give one hell of a freckle massage, love connecting the dots and have been told by two lesbian ladies that I have a typical white mans dick and a black tongue. So I'm not gone, just on the sidelines, so all of you serious mongers can take the lead and plow through the current drug infested world of providers. I will always be on the look out for a very freckled full GFE clean lady. I just can't' help looking because a lady like that, red, brunette, or blond is soooooo hard to find.

So IG 1009 hobby posts. Oh well, play it again Sam!

FF.

P.S. Last time for freckled post scripts and they are still the best thing mother nature ever bestowed on a female body.

P. P.S. Hopefully I will not get a PM asking me once again "What do freckles really mean, some type of code word?" It is a small patch of light brown color on the skin. Got it!Say it ain't so, Joe! No one wants to see FF give up!

Jjbee62
02-09-16, 14:43
I am going to be much shorter than my compadre and just as one question. What the fuck are you rambling about?

Indy Guy.

Hey FF and Nos, you assholes beat me. I wanted to be the first to pop the Prickyard Cherry.I get that distinction, although accidentally. I thought I was putting it in one hole and A2 moved it to another hole.

Jjbee62
02-09-16, 14:50
I know I said I wasn't going to keep arguing this point. But when I'm being accused of a vendetta, etc. I think there is a need for clarification. It's not about me. I don't think the Daisy Operation was a vendetta. The point is that Indianapolis BP has a much larger percentage of 'bad' ones than surrounding cities. It is way worse than Miami and Fort Lauderdale also. The point is that the good providers are hurt by the bad ones. Once the traveling business man spends his BP money on a bad one, the good one's lose out. It hurts the reputation of Indianapolis among convention goers. They would rather have their conventions some where else. So, it's not about revenge, or vendettas. It's about helping the good providers. I'm not suggesting that every bad one that pops up get the Daisy treatment. I'm just referring to the ones that are consistently advertising and not providing. And clearly I'm not referring to blonds who advertise as redheads or those who use a thinner picture of themselves.

Now, I am finished with this subject. I think by now I've made my point clear.I guess we need to put on our super hero tights and go save Metropolis.

"Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's an old guy in yoga pants! Not bird, nor plane, nor even. Okay I'll admit to the last one. Just little old me, MongerDog. ".

FreeWilly46
02-09-16, 15:14
I guess we need to put on our super hero tights and go save Metropolis.

"Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's an old guy in yoga pants! Not bird, nor plane, nor even. Okay I'll admit to the last one. Just little old me, MongerDog. "."It hurts the reputation of Indianapolis among convention goers. They would rather have their conventions some where else. " - OMG I laughed out loud at this. I'm sure the Super Bowl Committee, FFA Committee, and all other convention location committees include "BP Escort Ad Accuracy" in their Top 5 list of potential location criteria.

Jjbee62
02-09-16, 20:03
"It hurts the reputation of Indianapolis among convention goers. They would rather have their conventions some where else. " - OMG I laughed out loud at this. I'm sure the Super Bowl Committee, FFA Committee, and all other convention location committees include "BP Escort Ad Accuracy" in their Top 5 list of potential location criteria.I can just see that meeting.

"Well, we've narrowed it down to Las Vegas, Orlando or Indianapolis. Any suggestions? ".

"The BP escort situation in Indy doesn't look good. Even though hotel and convention facilities are excellent and less expensive, I really think The Presbyterian Ministers Association of America would be better served in a place with more honest prostitutes. ".

Freckle Freak
02-10-16, 08:10
I guess we need to put on our super hero tights and go save Metropolis.

"Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's an old guy in yoga pants! Not bird, nor plane, nor even. Okay I'll admit to the last one. Just little old me, MongerDog. ".A retired friend of mine on this board would label me exactly this way. I think I felt in some ways that's exactly where I was headed with both the provider side and the monger side. The only difference is I would have been wearing my baseball pants, instead of yoga pants, in case I stopped at a strip club to see if I could hit a home run. Thanks for the laugh Jjbee.

IndyGuy123
02-10-16, 09:54
It's have "done".At the time I was speaking that thru voice recognition, I was between rounds of play time with a redheaded FWB. Now you please tell me one thing. Would you give a shit about any grammatical errors that may have been made? If so, I think you need to visit a redhead soon to remind yourself of why I don't.

I am sure some of my friends in The Prickyard shall agree.

Indy Guy.

FreeWilly46
02-10-16, 11:08
A retired friend of mine on this board would label me exactly this way. I think I felt in some ways that's exactly where I was headed with both the provider side and the monger side. The only difference is I would have been wearing my baseball pants, instead of yoga pants, in case I stopped at a strip club to see if I could hit a home run. Thanks for the laugh Jjbee.Any mongers care to participate in a board pool regarding the day FF un-retires and gets back on (or would it be off?) the wagon? I think it would be fun, with the caveat the winner must donate the purse to pay for FF's date.

IrishLaddie
02-10-16, 12:23
And who will be the Pole Sitter?

Jjbee62
02-10-16, 13:28
A retired friend of mine on this board would label me exactly this way. I think I felt in some ways that's exactly where I was headed with both the provider side and the monger side. The only difference is I would have been wearing my baseball pants, instead of yoga pants, in case I stopped at a strip club to see if I could hit a home run. Thanks for the laugh Jjbee.I've been there before. Always running off to fight evil and exact retribution on wrong-doers. It was okay 25 years ago, I had plenty of energy and looked damn good in spandex (and once in a crotchless, see-through body suit. Don't ask. I was drunk.). Now it's just not worth the effort.

IndyGuy123
02-10-16, 13:31
And who will be the Pole Sitter?Well I think we all would want our own personal pole sitter? This race definitely needs to be of sport bikes aka crotch rockets. I found my initial pole sitter!

Indy Guy.

Jjbee62
02-10-16, 13:34
At the time I was speaking that thru voice recognition, I was between rounds of play time with a redheaded FWB. Now you please tell me one thing. Would you give a shit about any grammatical errors that may have been made? If so, I think you need to visit a redhead soon to remind yourself of why I don't.

I am sure some of my friends in The Prickyard shall agree.

Indy Guy.What demon hath tortured thou forsaken soul? Knowest thou not, for he who hath misspoken and violated the purity of this noble tongue, shall be cast from the haunts of genteel souls, forever to frolic amongst harlots most vile.

Freckle Freak
02-10-16, 14:20
Well I think we all would want our own personal pole sitter? This race definitely needs to be of sport bikes aka crotch rockets. I found my initial pole sitter!

Indy Guy.Don't you know the difference between a two wheeler and a four wheeler. Your picture is from the MotoGPrick World Championship series. Below is a picture of the Prickyard. You have the wrong ride for the wrong race. Your sight is as bad as your spelling!

IndyGuy123
02-10-16, 14:41
Don't you know the difference between a two wheeler and a four wheeler. Your picture is from the MotoGPrick World Championship series. Below is a picture of the Prickyard. You have the wrong ride for the wrong race. Your sight is as bad as your spelling!Even in retirement, he is still a smart ass. I know what the real version is. We need to differentiate ourselves. Think outside of the freckle!

Indy Guy.

BigGuyUAteMe
02-10-16, 17:43
I was always told if a good girl gave a BBBJ and wanted wash away her sin, she only have to gargle with holy water?

BG.


Because too many of the Catholic priests are pedofiles and still working in the church. Rome turns it's head and pays off the families for their silence! The most hypocritical religious group that man ever invented. Light a candle and say twelve hail marys and you are absolved.

SafeMonger
02-10-16, 23:24
Was just informed by a friend that the above statement about pharmaceuticals may be incorrect so please disregard it.The world we live in, in or out of the provider world, America has a severe opiate problem. Why would you think that BP, streetworkers, or UTR ladies would do what they do it for a little extra cash. Drugs run this country and its a sad state we live in.

IndyGuy123
02-11-16, 09:55
The world we live in, in or out of the provider world, America has a severe opiate problem. Why would you think that BP, streetworkers, or UTR ladies would do what they do it for a little extra cash. Drugs run this country and its a sad state we live in.Fully agree on the sad state we live in and the fact that most of the girls especially on BP are feeding one type of addiction or another. However, there are a select handful of girls on BP that are clean of drug habits. Each of them have their own reasons for being in this hobby world. If you would like some examples, please look back at FF's Retirement Address.

Indy Guy.

SnapDragon
02-11-16, 10:58
The world we live in, in or out of the provider world, America has a severe opiate problem. Why would you think that BP, streetworkers, or UTR ladies would do what they do it for a little extra cash. Drugs run this country and its a sad state we live in.This is exactly what I am talking about.

I read your quote to say all of the girls are on drugs and that is why they do it.

Bullshit.

I agree there is a opiate problem.

I know first hand as my step daughter and a friend both overdosed on a combination of heroin and Xanax.

But I ha e been doing this for nearly thirty years and not all the girls are forced and / or on drugs.

Not even half of the ones I have seen are in this category and I have seen girls from here to Amsterdam, China and back.

Radarorielly
02-11-16, 11:09
Because too many of the Catholic priests are pedofiles and still working in the church. Rome turns it's head and pays off the families for their silence! The most hypocritical religious group that man ever invented. Light a candle and say twelve hail marys and you are absolved.How can you paint a broad brush and criticize all Catholics? I know many that are really decent people. Don't know any that are enabling young children to use drugs. Or driving across the state line multiple times for a desperate attempt to be accepted, all the while believing one assinine story after another. And then buying drugs for a child. Never met ONE with a fu* up story lime that.

Radar.

Admin2
02-11-16, 12:49
You guys might want to get in the habit of moving the bullshit here. I just had to move a couple posts, I'm not going to keep doing that, I'm going to start throwing flags and putting people on moderation.

If the thread you're posting on has the work review and you're arguing you better put it here. Nobody wants to wade through your stupid shit, they are on those threads because they want to read reviews.

A2

DaveRue
02-11-16, 13:24
You guys might want to get in the habit of moving the bullshit here. I just had to move a couple posts, I'm not going to keep doing that, I'm going to start throwing flags and putting people on moderation.

If the thread you're posting on has the work review and you're arguing you better put it here. Nobody wants to wade through your stupid shit, they are on those threads because they want to read reviews.

A2Thank you A2!

Freckle Freak
02-11-16, 13:51
The world we live in, in or out of the provider world, America has a severe opiate problem. Why would you think that BP, streetworkers, or UTR ladies would do what they do it for a little extra cash. Drugs run this country and its a sad state we live in.


This is exactly what I am talking about. I read your quote to say all of the girls are on drugs and that is why they do it. Bullshit.

I agree there is a opiate problem.Ladies do it worldwide for mainly three reasons.

One: They are supporting some type of addiction for themselves or for their SO. This could be any type of drug, Heroin and opiates are currently the most predominate reason on the drug side, but it could be gambling, alcohol, shopping etc. They may have another source of income or not. This may be their only source of income but it is addiction driven and this is how they live.

Two: They or their SO are either incapable or unwilling to look for a main source of income to support their standard of living, whatever that standard is. In other words this is their job or at least in some way it's additional income to balance out the monthly outflows of cash required to support their standard of living. They have no drug or addiction issue. It just balances out the cash flow requirements.

Three: They have a society approved income that supports their standard of living and they do this because this is the way they date or because they enjoy the sex or enjoy the extra income or a combination of all three. They don't have a drug or addiction issue.

So not every provider, escort, sex worker is an addict. Just one old mongers opinion, which ain't worth much.

Jjbee62
02-11-16, 14:28
Ladies do it worldwide for mainly three reasons.

One: They are supporting some type of addiction for themselves or for their SO. This could be any type of drug, Heroin and opiates are currently the most predominate reason on the drug side, but it could be gambling, alcohol, shopping etc. They may have another source of income or not. This may be their only source of income but it is addiction driven and this is how they live.

Two: They or their SO are either incapable or unwilling to look for a main source of income to support their standard of living, whatever that standard is. In other words this is their job or at least in some way it's additional income to balance out the monthly outflows of cash required to support their standard of living. They have no drug or addiction issue. It just balances out the cash flow requirements.

Three: They have a society approved income that supports their standard of living and they do this because this is the way they date or because they enjoy the sex or enjoy the extra income or a combination of all three. They don't have a drug or addiction issue.

So not every provider, escort, sex worker is an addict. Just one old mongers opinion, which ain't worth much.Pretty much sums it up.

There's an issue with group 3 girls who start dabbling in pharmaceuticals who gravitate to group 2, and then to group 1.

When you think about it, it's like any other job. Some people love their work, they have a passion for it, and tend to be the best (whether it's haircuts or handjobs). Some just work to pay the bills, they do a decent job, with occasional moments of brilliance. The rest hate their job, hate their life and are always looking for an escape. On a very rare day they'll do a good job, but they will complain the whole time.

As for the opiates issue, when doctors are handing out pills like it's Halloween candy, there's going to be a problem. My last doctor even suggested he would keep me well supplied with whatever I wanted for the price of an office visit. I've a long history of back problems which, about every 3 years require pain meds and treatment.

Freckle Freak
02-11-16, 14:28
Because too many of the Catholic priests are pedofiles and still working in the church. Rome turns it's head and pays off the families for their silence! The most hypocritical religious group that man ever invented. Light a candle and say twelve hail marys and you are absolved.


How can you paint a broad brush and criticize all Catholics? I know many that are really decent people. Don't know any that are enabling young children to use drugs. Or driving across the state line multiple times for a desperate attempt to be accepted, all the while believing one assinine story after another. And then buying drugs for a child. Never met ONE with a fu* up story lime that.

Radar.I respect your right to your opinion Radar. If you noticed I said too many, NOT all. Please note the distinction between the two. Why are you are so upset with my viewpoint on the Catholic religion, are you Catholic? If you are then you are also a hypocrite. If you practiced Catholicism then you wouldn't be on this board. I'm not saying you are Catholic or a hypocrite, just saying you can't be on this board and be practicing any of the mainstream religious philosophies. It's against any religions supreme beings (god) laws to be a monger. Not all Catholics or any religious groups are bad, just some and there are more in some religious groups than others. This is never more evident than in the Muslim religion with the radical Muslims that use the teachings of Isalm as their religious doctrine to kill innocent people.

Religion is mankind's greatest and most deadly creation. Man has destroyed more of humankind in the name of religious dogma than all of the knives, arrows, swords, bullets, TNT, and A-bombs ever used against his fellow man. Yet many more have been saved from a life of despair, loneliness, starvation, and in-humane acts, than were ever destroyed, because of the religious teachings of compassion, love, empathy, grace and forgiveness. Thank man, not god, for his humanity. Faith is the belief that man will eventually get it right and truly practice what he believes and feels in his soul.

Just an old mongers opinion which ain't worth much.

IndyGuy123
02-11-16, 15:11
Just an old mongers opinion which ain't worth much.The Hobby Word according to Father Freak of the Benevolent Order to the Freckle. LOL.

Reverend of the RIGHT Red..........which I am still looking for!
(One lady is going to try to fill that spot this weekend)

BigGuyUAteMe
02-11-16, 17:55
I will say it like this They do it for love, money, or their love of money.

Just my 2 cents.

BG,


Ladies do it worldwide for mainly three reasons.

One: They are supporting some type of addiction for themselves or for their SO. This could be any type of drug, Heroin and opiates are currently the most predominate reason on the drug side, but it could be gambling, alcohol, shopping etc. They may have another source of income or not. This may be their only source of income but it is addiction driven and this is how they live.

Two: They or their SO are either incapable or unwilling to look for a main source of income to support their standard of living, whatever that standard is. In other words this is their job or at least in some way it's additional income to balance out the monthly outflows of cash required to support their standard of living. They have no drug or addiction issue. It just balances out the cash flow requirements.

Three: They have a society approved income that supports their standard of living and they do this because this is the way they date or because they enjoy the sex or enjoy the extra income or a combination of all three. They don't have a drug or addiction issue.

So not every provider, escort, sex worker is an addict. Just one old mongers opinion, which ain't worth much.

BigGuyUAteMe
02-11-16, 18:03
Damn, Freckle Freak is good, he has gotten to me too, if you ever drink he's red Kool-Aid, you will be a Freckle freak forever! I'm hoping for some new adventure tonight myself. A freckled salute to all.

BG.


The Hobby Word according to Father Freak of the Benevolent Order to the Freckle. LOL.

Reverend of the RIGHT Red..........which I am still looking for!
(One lady is going to try to fill that spot this weekend)

SnapDragon
02-11-16, 18:33
I respect your right to your opinion Radar. If you noticed I said too many, NOT all. Please note the distinction between the two. Why are you are so upset with my viewpoint on the Catholic religion, are you Catholic? If you are then you are also a hypocrite. If you practiced Catholicism then you wouldn't be on this board. I'm not saying you are Catholic or a hypocrite, just saying you can't be on this board and be practicing any of the mainstream religious philosophies. It's against any religions supreme beings (god) laws to be a monger. Not all Catholics or any religious groups are bad, just some and there are more in some religious groups than others. This is never more evident than in the Muslim religion with the radical Muslims that use the teachings of Isalm as their religious doctrine to kill innocent people.

Religion is mankind's greatest and most deadly creation. Man has destroyed more of humankind in the name of religious dogma than all of the knives, arrows, swords, bullets, TNT, and A-bombs ever used against his fellow man. Yet many more have been saved from a life of despair, loneliness, starvation, and in-humane acts, than were ever destroyed, because of the religious teachings of compassion, love, empathy, grace and forgiveness. Thank man, not god, for his humanity. Faith is the belief that man will eventually get it right and truly practice what he believes and feels in his soul.

Just an old mongers opinion which ain't worth much.I read FF comments as the catholic religion not the members of it.

It is the organizations design and senior management that is fucked up and backwards.

That by no means includes all the members. But it does say something about their willing a to tolerate or agree with what their church does or or just turn a blind eye to it.

I was raised Catholic and now am atheist. That belief went away much like Santa clause and the Easter bunny.

LancePkrbttm
02-11-16, 18:51
I'm fucking lost. Can someone give me decoder ring for this forum? I've figured out like 3 of these places.

IntoAsian
02-11-16, 18:58
I'm fucking lost. Can someone give me decoder ring for this forum? I've figured out like 3 of these places.Don't be afraid to use Google. Their is always a hint to the location or address. It's really not that complicated. If their is a he involved I will figure it out. Lmao.

LancePkrbttm
02-11-16, 19:08
What would you do if your physician told you that you have developed an allergy to hooker spit in your urethra?

IndyGuy123
02-11-16, 19:15
What would you do if your physician told you that you have developed an allergy to hooker spit in your urethra?Double up on some Bendryl and head out the door!

Indy Guy.

Johnnysk
02-11-16, 19:33
I'm fucking lost. Can someone give me decoder ring for this forum? I've figured out like 3 of these places.Check your messages.

IndyGuy123
02-11-16, 20:52
Indy awaits your arrival and plans to welcome you so nicely you will never leave.Already will be meeting her at the county line and giving the rare redhead chauffeured service into town. Yes, the trip to SB was able to be cancelled with our freaky friend's retirement. However, I had to make a gentleman's agreement with our SB monger friends to return her in one piece. That is not to say one of you can not break that agreement.

Indy Guy.

Jozone293
02-11-16, 21:52
So does this mean I seriously won't have to wade through the same people posting the same unrelated bullshit on threads that meant only for reviews (as it says)? That would be amazing, I stopped coming here for that very reason.

That's the plan with threads like this. I start them in cities that have a very active ladies sewing circle that for some bizarre reason spend more time talking about what guys post than posting about chicks.

Generally speaking one or two of the worst douchebags will push back because they forgot they don't own this place, I put them on moderation because they can't stop being assholes on the review threads and then they go ever to the site that spams us all the time and talk about what an asshole I am because they can't be assholes anymore.

The weird part is they don't have to stop being douchebags, they only have to be douchebags on this thread and all is ok. Most of the threads like this turn kind of social as well for a nice mix of bullshit and douchebaggery if they get used.

Weird I know.

A2


You guys might want to get in the habit of moving the bullshit here. I just had to move a couple posts, I'm not going to keep doing that, I'm going to start throwing flags and putting people on moderation.

If the thread you're posting on has the work review and you're arguing you better put it here. Nobody wants to wade through your stupid shit, they are on those threads because they want to read reviews.

A2

HunterGatherer
02-12-16, 10:56
The old joke here goes something like this:

There were three nuns waiting to be blessed. The priest asks the first nun, 'have you ever touched a penis?' She says, 'I touched one once with my finger. '.

The priest says, 'Put your finger in holy water and say three Hail Marys. ' It's now the second nun's turn. She is asked the same question, but before she can respond.

The third nun runs in front of her and says, 'I'm not going to gargle that water after she sticks her ass in it!


I was always told if a good girl gave a BBBJ and wanted wash away her sin, she only have to gargle with holy water?

BG.

Kyussfan
02-12-16, 13:29
I read FF comments as the catholic religion not the members of it.

It is the organizations design and senior management that is fucked up and backwards.

That by no means includes all the members. But it does say something about their willing a to tolerate or agree with what their church does or or just turn a blind eye to it.

I was raised Catholic and now am atheist. That belief went away much like Santa clause and the Easter bunny.I totally agree with Snapdragon. I too left Catholic city for Atheistville. Through my own life experiences I've decided that the two greatest mental illnesses any human being can have are love, and organized religion. Not knocking those who enjoy either one, just saying there a whole lot of drama involved with both of them. And as for Freckle Freak, I'm beginning to suspect he is a Doctorate professor at a prestigious university. Either that or freckled ailens abducted him during childhood and embedded him with a broader knowledge of existence than any of the rest of us will ever posess. Either way, this guy deserves the Nobel peace prize. Being a longhair I might look stupid in one, but I'd put on a suit and tie to attend the FF Awards ceremony. Live long and prosper.

Roy Cat
02-13-16, 18:21
I'm fucking lost. Can someone give me decoder ring for this forum? I've figured out like 3 of these places.The posters here mistakenly think you can figure it out but the police can't. It's been like this for years. If you got on a time machine and went a hundred years in the future and then looked at this site it would still be the same old thing.

LancePkrbttm
02-14-16, 13:54
What do you propse? For each and every bad service that wr stage a Daisy campaign? Who is the judge if its truly a bad provider, ir a butt hurt hobbiest?I don't think there is a good answer. So I think we just do as we have always done. The Daisy Operation was fascinating to me. And has me thinking about other possibilities and other have expressed similar thoughts. Just opening a dialogue in context of this next tier of hobby nuisance.

Freckle Freak
02-14-16, 13:58
Can a POS non-provider really have a 5+ year career in this business? Perhaps we don't do enough to warn against these more benign threats to having a good time in the hobby (thinking Operation Daisy). Tiffany, Neveah and others that seem to operate with impunity to continue to take the uninformed. So the advantage of doing nothing is at least those that RTFF know who the scamming cunts are and they remain easy to avoid. Should these newbs keep feeding these cunts for the greater good? So continue with the status quo and only help those that look to be informed? Leaving the rest as cannon fodder?


What do you propse? For each and every bad service that wr stage a Daisy campaign? Who is the judge if its truly a bad provider, ir a butt hurt hobbiest?I don't think Lance was proposing anything, only blowing off steam and letting out some frustrations. In essence there is little that can be done. It would be a full time job trying to shut down all the ladies who don't provide what they advertise or upsell their services beyond a dance or massage or scam or commit robbery. Think of the effort it would take to blow up their phones, post warnings on BP and try and track their new ads which may not include pics and have new phone numbers through apps. They may even switch from BP to CL or even SA.

As far as judging if they are truly a bad provider, that's pretty easy. If they provide limited or no service and take your money, like Neaveh or Nyla, then they are scammers. If someone gets robbed by BF's or SO's then it's robbery. If these experiences have been reported multiple times by newer members of the board or a reputable senior member then it's most likely true. If it's robbery then a daisy operation might need to occur. If you pay upfront and don't get what was advertised or she upsells everything then write a report about it and next time don't pay until the menu is verified. This is not a scam or robbery. BP is hit and miss. So learn from your mistakes, read the board, and keep your money in your pocket until the end of the session and pay her what was agreed to with a tip if you really liked it. If your a butt hurt hobbyist then grow some balls and admit your mistake because we all have been there at least once!

Freckle Freak
02-14-16, 14:02
Suggest moving this discussion to The Prickyard before A2 steps in.

Indy (Worn out from this weekend) Guy.A2-D2, which rhymes with R2 D2 and you are a sexual robot.

IndyGuy123
02-14-16, 14:07
A2-D2, which rhymes with R2 D2 and you are a sexual robot.I can go with that. More original than the sexual machine. Even this robot has his batteries drained now.

IG-12-3.

LuvGingerGirls
02-14-16, 20:57
Damn, Freckle Freak is good, he has gotten to me too, if you ever drink he's red Kool-Aid, you will be a Freckle freak forever! I'm hoping for some new adventure tonight myself. A freckled salute to all.

BG.I don't know what it is about redheaded girls, but I've had an eye for them since I was in the first grade. I didn't even LIKE girls until about late 7th / early 8th grade,(yeah, I was a bit of a late bloomer) but the gingers have always turned my head, freckled or not. (not that I have anything against blondes or brunettes!

LancePkrbttm
02-14-16, 21:25
Since we have a fight thread.

http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/features/report/8233/why-redheads-are-genetically-less-attractive/

"Skin tone is another one of those well-studied features that has been shown to consistently have an impact on people's assessment of physical beauty: those with clear, evenly-coloured skin are widely regarded as being more attractive than people with patchy, blotchy or freckled skin. ".

Two Nutts
02-14-16, 21:33
Ias for Freckle Freak, I'm beginning to suspect he is a Doctorate professor at a prestigious university. Either that or freckled ailens abducted him during childhood and embedded him with a broader knowledge of existence than any of the rest of us will ever posess. Being a longhair I might look stupid in one, but I'd put on a suit and tie to attend the FF Awards ceremony. Live long and prosper.And the 2016 ass kissing award goes too.

LOL!!

IndyGuy123
02-15-16, 00:20
I don't know what it is about redheaded girls, but I've had an eye for them since I was in the first grade. I didn't even LIKE girls until about late 7th / early 8th grade,(yeah, I was a bit of a late bloomer) but the gingers have always turned my head, freckled or not. (not that I have anything against blondes or brunettes!FW,

You clearly have an eye for quality. Reds are genetically dispositioned to be better inow bed.

http://www.sheknows.com/love-and-sex/articles/1031967/why-sex-with-a-redhead-is-the-best

http://www.medicaldaily.com/8-ways-having-red-hair-affects-persons-health-pain-sex-348198

Indy Guy.

Freckle Freak
02-15-16, 06:31
Since we have a fight thread.

http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/features/report/8233/why-redheads-are-genetically-less-attractive/

"Skin tone is another one of those well-studied features that has been shown to consistently have an impact on people's assessment of physical beauty: those with clear, evenly-coloured skin are widely regarded as being more attractive than people with patchy, blotchy or freckled skin. ".Lance you can post what ever you want in this thread but I think advertising is still prohibited. Obviously you work for L'Oreal and are trying to drum up some business. Please convince all these mongers that freckles are unattractive. Just saves more of the freckled ones for me!


And the 2016 ass kissing award goes too.

LOL!!And you can fuck off, my friend! Titties and beer, soon?

Kyussfan
02-15-16, 12:10
And the 2016 ass kissing award goes too.

LOL!!Hey!! If it gets me front row seats to a Flock of Seagulls concert, then so be it!! LOL!!

LuvGingerGirls
02-15-16, 14:22
I have. Well, same-day Karma anyway. I was a freshman in high school when I fist got the nerve to ask a girl out. She turned me down, which would have been fine if she declined politely. But, it was very mean, vicious, nasty, spiteful, hateful and she threatened to rip my head off if I even so much as looked at her again.

We were completely alone at the time, so nobody saw this exchange. I thought to myself "I hope you break a leg, b**ch!" Yea, I know, not the nicest thing to think. I never said it out loud, and I never told anybody about the incident. There was a dance at school that night, and she showed up. With a broken leg!

I will admit, that did freak me out a little. About a year later, she was kind of interested in me, but she never got the nerve to approach me. As I had seen her true colors, the interest was no longer mutual.

Since then, I've noticed if anybody wrongs me, they always get paid back, and I don't even have to do anything! The exception being the people who robbed me recently. Which does kind of make me wonder if a higher power is going "Well, you shouldn't have been mongering". (I do tend to overanalyze the crap out of everything). But for all I know, something IS about to go down, and I'm just not privy to supernatural info.

I have forgiven that girl from school, and would even tell her so if I happened to see her and she got the nerve to speak to me. I might even approach her first (if I even recognized her).

Those Class A Felony people? Yeahhhh. That one's going to be pretty hard to forgive! I'm generally pretty light-hearted and easy-going, but HOLY SHIT, I was actually a little disturbed at how dark my soul can go! (Oh, I'm in a much better mood now!

Be safe!

LancePkrbttm
02-15-16, 17:36
Lance you can post what ever you want in this thread but I think advertising is still prohibited. Obviously you work for L'Oreal and are trying to drum up some business. Please convince all these mongers that freckles are unattractive. Just saves more of the freckled ones for me!

And you can fuck off, my friend! Titties and beer, soon?Haha!

Don't shoot the messenger!

Two Nutts
02-16-16, 00:53
Lance you can post what ever you want in this thread but I think advertising is still prohibited. Obviously you work for L'Oreal and are trying to drum up some business. Please convince all these mongers that freckles are unattractive. Just saves more of the freckled ones for me!

And you can fuck off, my friend! Titties and beer, soon?Be there this Thursday. Bring your peeps with you LOL.

FarEastMan
02-16-16, 01:40
Perhaps you should go to confession. Or therapy, or sex addicts anonymous. Try meeting one of the women who are here because they love their job rather than some BP girls with a pimp and a bad drug habit? Maybe you should just find a friend, or get a dog?

I suspect your post was just an attempt to try to make us feel bad about ourselves and, speaking for myself, you failed. I'm not trying to get affection from anyone who was trafficked or forced to provide. The guys I know personally on here aren't trying to either. So take your Catholic guilt to an appropriate priest who can forgive you and ensure you can do this over and over again and still get into the non-existent afterlife of your choosing.Not at all. I was just talking about my own guilt, didn't try to make anyone else feel bad. Sorry I came off that way.

FarEastMan
02-16-16, 01:46
I am going to be much shorter than my compadre and just as one question. What the fuck are you rambling about?

Indy Guy.

Hey FF and Nos, you assholes beat me. I wanted to be the first to pop the Prickyard Cherry.I just feel disgusted about myself for needing to step out, I need someone to hold me, and my lady won't do that. Just not sure what to do.

Freckle Freak
02-16-16, 09:14
I just feel disgusted about myself for needing to step out, I need someone to hold me, and my lady won't do that. Just not sure what to do.If you think spending some $$ for a provider who will snuggle and hold you is the way to resolve those feelings of inadequacy when you already feel disgusted about the thought, then you are on the wrong board. I'm not trying to tell you what to do, but many of us have been in your shoes and know the feeling. After 20+ years of marriage with no, and I mean zero, intimacy from my SO for a period of three years I ventured out. I felt inadequate as a man and human. This was after counseling and working on communication issues but none of it helped. So after I felt I gave it my best shot, I found a hot freckled stripper and had some fun. So my advice is counseling and in the sessions when things are not proceeding down the path you need, plain and simply say. "If you can't show me the affection that I deserve after X many years of commitment to you and allow me to show you the affection I feel FOR you, then I will find it somewhere else. This is not a threat, just what I have determined I need in my life as a male and a human being with normal feelings and desires of reciprocal intimacy of some type".

After that you may not feel so guilty. Mine didn't care, she said go forth and sew your oats. That's when I found the stripper and sew away I did!

Mwdude
02-16-16, 09:28
Hey!! If it gets me front row seats to a Flock of Seagulls concert, then so be it!! LOL!!Not going to lie. Drop day 1 I envisioned you with the Seagulls' lead singer's hair. LOL.

Kyussfan
02-16-16, 12:26
Not going to lie. Drop day 1 I envisioned you with the Seagulls' lead singer's hair. LOL.If I can still find my Aquanet and my Goody comb, I can make that happen!! LOL then we can all meet at the strip club. Once we've got our eyes on the prizes, we'll all put on our helmets and we'll do the safety dance with some splittails! Wow, there's something seriously wrong with me.

BigGuyUAteMe
02-17-16, 11:43
Great advice as always! I think real good therapy would be playing, connect the dots on a freckled, fine, redhead (with baby batter)! Break out the red Kool-Aid, lets all drink to New Pussy!

BG,

P.S., sometimes when it rains it pours! And for the Bigguy, it's monsoon season for pussy! Life is good.


If you think spending some $$ for a provider who will snuggle and hold you is the way to resolve those feelings of inadequacy when you already feel disgusted about the thought, then you are on the wrong board. I'm not trying to tell you what to do, but many of us have been in your shoes and know the feeling. After 20+ years of marriage with no, and I mean zero, intimacy from my SO for a period of three years I ventured out. I felt inadequate as a man and human. This was after counseling and working on communication issues but none of it helped. So after I felt I gave it my best shot, I found a hot freckled stripper and had some fun. So my advice is counseling and in the sessions when things are not proceeding down the path you need, plain and simply say. "If you can't show me the affection that I deserve after X many years of commitment to you and allow me to show you the affection I feel FOR you, then I will find it somewhere else. This is not a threat, just what I have determined I need in my life as a male and a human being with normal feelings and desires of reciprocal intimacy of some type".

After that you may not feel so guilty. Mine didn't care, she said go forth and sew your oats. That's when I found the stripper and sew away I did!

LancePkrbttm
02-17-16, 22:59
What is the purpose of this Forum?

The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.

What is SPAM?

Spam is defined as postings to the Forum that are contrary to the purpose of the site, including:

- Transvestite Messages.


Which one of you degenerates get the ts itch? Any referrals? Mya? Amanda? Adonna? PM if you'd prefer.Barf! I just threw up in my mouth. Besides, getting an itch is rarely a good thing in the hobby. Especially when it's with A-man-duh! Or any of them. Also how do you objectively choose between them? Are Adam's apples considered sexy? Back hair? And the term "passable" bothers me. This characteristic is only as good as the adhesive that pastes it to his thigh!

I flag everyone of those ads in the female escort section on Backpage. I would appreciate help.

Jjbee62
02-19-16, 10:21
Links. If you want help, don't make us hunt down your inquiry.I agree Mwdude.

Is it that difficult to figure out how to copy and paste a link? Isn't it obvious from all of the BP reviews and the requests for info that a link included in the post is standard practice?

Which brings us to the subject of reviews. If you are out there asking for Intel on different advertisers, where are your reviews? Did you get confused and think this is some sort of charity? Just walk in with your hand out and someone will hand you a bowl of soup, a condom and the phone number to their favorite provider?

This is a Co-op, a co-operative exchange. You come by, drop off your reviews, which you don't need, then pick up some new information. In this way everyone benefits. But, if you don't have the decency to share your reviews then No soup for you.

I'm also getting tired of the zero post member PMs asking "can you tell me. " something already in the forum. Do I look like your mother? Am I supposed to make your bed and wash your balls too? RTFF, do some research, TOFTT and at least post an introduction. Something along the lines of: "Hello. I'm a newbie leech. I'm here to suck the information out of everyone, then I will crawl off somewhere until I need some more. I'm not going to give any information, but I will occasionally drop a few names that I've seen others talk about. Please feed me. ".

Rant over.

Freckle Freak
02-19-16, 11:45
Is it that difficult to figure out how to copy and paste a link? Isn't it obvious from all of the BP reviews and the requests for info that a link included in the post is standard practice?

Which brings us to the subject of reviews. If you are out there asking for Intel on different advertisers, where are your reviews? Did you get confused and think this is some sort of charity? Just walk in with your hand out and someone will hand you a bowl of soup, a condom and the phone number to their favorite provider?The Indy Gents started a Blog for all you new comers and lurkers. It's called First Time Posters and Newbies. Try reading the Blog and read some of the below previous posts. Get on board with the program or you will be completely ignored. We want you here but your mother (s) aren't going to help you out anymore unless you contribute to the household.

Thank you for your consideration and here is a link to the blog.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?19166-First-Time-Posters-and-Newbies&p=2716976&viewfull=1#post2716976


New members at times find it tough to get answers to their questions and achieve a response to their posts and / or PM's. I find the reasons are similar to hunting with a group of guys. In every hunting group there could be new hunters and experienced hunters. The experienced hunters have a problem with new hunters who never contribute by gathering fire wood, cooking a meal, cleaning the camp and always want to know the location of the best hunting spot.


A lot of times the guys that have been around here awhile seem to close ranks and be less than friendly. For you guys that are just joining us, welcome. Seriously welcome to the site and I want to give you something to think about.

Say you're a guy that likes to smoke a little weed from time to time and you have just moved to a new city. You're just a hangaround kinda guy nothing special, 9-5er but you like to go out, have a beer and maybe a little toke in the parking lot. So you find a new bar. Seems like a nice place, the beer is cold, the bartender's kinda hot, the place isn't too dark or to bright, friendly place but not pushy. The first week you're there you see folks going outside and when they come back you get a little wiff of something interesting.

If you start walking around the place looking for a J to buy what's gonna happen? You're gonna get frozen out. If on the other hand, you hang out, let your face be known, have a couple convos, buy a beer or two, tip the hot bartender well, sooner or later you will get an invitation to join.

Again, welcome. If you show up asking shit tons of questions without doing any of the basics you're gonna get froze out. Read back a few pages, if you have a question let it be procedural, not informational. Figure out who is a trusted provider, take a dip write a note about it. Become a familiar face. Before you know it you're known.

A2

IndyGuy123
02-19-16, 11:57
I'm not going to give any information, but I will occasionally drop a few names that I've seen others talk about. Please feed me. ".This is the fact that seems to be always overlooked. Anyone can jump on here and throw out review after review of ladies that have been reviewed multiple times on the board. I have seen instances of a newbie reviewing a lady that has been reviewed before and after looking back it was nearly a copy and paste of a senior's previous report. If you aren't a monger that is down for TOFTT, then just be aware that it will take longer to earn your credibility here. If that is you, sit back and read the others reviews and use them as you wish. As JJ says, if you are a newbie that is not verified, do not expect the seniors to give you info via PM. Many of us get daily PMs that immediately get deleted.

Indy Guy.

TapDat9901
02-20-16, 12:06
Hey still new here. Wondering if someone can give me help on providers who will meet newbies and will give references. Most of the providers I'm interested in need references. I'm not a hobbyist so I don't do this a lot. Get nervous on meeting providers that don't have reviews here so I don't know who to go to. Thanks.

P.S. I'm not opposed to meeting some of the senior members for a drink so you can meet me, so you don't have to wonder if I'm uncle or some weirdo.

BiteOfTheApple
02-20-16, 18:36
Hey still new here. Wondering if someone can give me help on providers who will meet newbies and will give references. Most of the providers I'm interested in need references. I'm not a hobbyist so I don't do this a lot. Get nervous on meeting providers that don't have reviews here so I don't know who to go to. Thanks.

P.S. I'm not opposed to meeting some of the senior members for a drink so you can meet me, so you don't have to wonder if I'm uncle or some weirdo.Some providers will work with you. You can ask if there is a way, ie work reference etc. But with that said, you must be willing to divulge that type of info.

IndyGuy123
02-20-16, 20:32
Hey still new here. Wondering if someone can give me help on providers who will meet newbies and will give references. Most of the providers I'm interested in need references. I'm not a hobbyist so I don't do this a lot. Get nervous on meeting providers that don't have reviews here so I don't know who to go to. Thanks.

P.S. I'm not opposed to meeting some of the senior members for a drink so you can meet me, so you don't have to wonder if I'm uncle or some weirdo.Most of the good ones will require references or go the route BOTA says. There ain't a lot of ways around that. Call it a right of passage.
On meeting, most guys are just like the ladies. We need references to meet face to face. For some guys that means seeing reviews of ladies we know and can verify you through them. Then some guys are sort of UTR themselves and don't want to meet personally.
Indy Guy.

Sara8032
02-23-16, 04:02
https://www.facebook.com/OkDumbass/videos/958547644234123/

Theo Guderian
02-23-16, 19:10
https://www.facebook.com/OkDumbass/videos/958547644234123/Thanks, I just spit a Crown and Coke over my keyboard!

BobUp
02-24-16, 23:28
https://www.facebook.com/OkDumbass/videos/958547644234123/My day sucked ass had to cancel an appointment do to the SO being home because of the f at &king snow storm up here. Sara Thank you for the laugh I needed it. I'm going to link it up in SB.

WadeWilson1
02-25-16, 11:46
I like this thread just because I can float random shit out and not get beat up on hahaha. Or maybe I will, we'll see. With the tourney coming up, being the college hoops fan that I am, I need to find has a place that runs a parlay. I moved down here from Chicago this summer, where you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a good bar with some action. I was hoping one of my fellow degenerates could send me a PM and point me in the right direction. It would definitely be worth a beer and a dance on me! Happy hunting fellas.

IndyGuy123
02-25-16, 12:17
Guys,

We all know that several of these girls either work together or at least know each other. Several of us have received the mystery texts and have had no contact with Sammie. However, Indplsgent4 fu is a respected member of this board. Personally, I believe the details of his text. There were too many details for Sammie to have no involvement in the mystery texts. My guess is she knows some of the other girls on BP and they have a link to someone that they are providing #s to that is sending these texts. To this point, Sammie's reports have all been positive for sessions. The question is are you willing to deal with the worthless threatening texts. Unless you are really concerned about this, my feelings are to see her if you want. If you start receiving the threat texts, just delete them or block the number. Unless you want to have fun with them like some of us did and then play games with them in response.

Indy Guy.


I have received the text too. I received the text before ever knowing about Sammie. They knew some of my personal info too. I don't believe it to be Sammie though.

Sara8032
02-25-16, 13:15
My day sucked ass had to cancel an appointment do to the SO being home because of the f at &king snow storm up here. Sara Thank you for the laugh I needed it. I'm going to link it up in SB.You are so very welcome. I used to live in "the region". Kind of miss that finger of God on the weather map directing lake effect at LaPorte.

BigGuyUAteMe
02-25-16, 15:03
That's funny shit! I don't care who you are.

BG.


https://www.facebook.com/OkDumbass/videos/958547644234123/

BigGuyUAteMe
02-25-16, 15:16
Saw this was moved here, If this is the sammie I posted about 317-xxx-7109 , I haven't gotten any threating texts. (knocking on wood, rather be beating my wood).

She does text you wanting you to revisit, but has been no trouble for me.

BG,

Play safe, have fun, give and get respect, do your research, find some crazy good and TPHFB!


Guys,

We all know that several of these girls either work together or at least know each other. Several of us have received the mystery texts and have had no contact with Sammie. However, Indplsgent4 fu is a respected member of this board. Personally, I believe the details of his text. There were too many details for Sammie to have no involvement in the mystery texts. My guess is she knows some of the other girls on BP and they have a link to someone that they are providing #s to that is sending these texts. To this point, Sammie's reports have all been positive for sessions. The question is are you willing to deal with the worthless threatening texts. Unless you are really concerned about this, my feelings are to see her if you want. If you start receiving the threat texts, just delete them or block the number. Unless you want to have fun with them like some of us did and then play games with them in response.

Indy Guy.

Katland
02-25-16, 16:21
I went by this new AMP recently for a morning massage. Rang the door bell on the second door and after a minute heard a door open and close within the building, which tells me all girls are busy with clients (my apologies to the monger who's session I interrupted). I am let in by "Cindy" (long haired and curvy), taken into an open room, and told she's the only one here and the wait is 20 minutes. I told her I'd come back later, didn't want to wait. I suppose to make sure I didn't forget my promise she grabs my crotch, gives me a kiss, and says "you come back. " Act 2 will hopefully be provided soon.This is not a report. Post when got somting' Mon.

Member #5458
02-25-16, 16:48
I have also received the same text but I have never used BP. I use to use nr a little bit andd now just use p411.

FreeWilly46
02-25-16, 16:52
This is not a report. Post when got somting' Mon.And your reply to my post reported exactly what? Read the forum, at least 75% of the posts are not "reports," so what's your beef with mine.

Also, if you were smart enough you would have gleaned what little I learned and that a) it's a one-woman show in the morning, so be prepared to wait, 2) Cindy's not small, and 3) clearly you can leave happy.

Lastly, if you don't like my post, go read the next one!

Mrnsolo
02-25-16, 16:56
This is not a report. Post when got somting' Mon.Lotta guys here seem to like to see themselves talk. Place is cool, only one girl there. Great table shower, got very clean in all kinda spots. Good massage, no reason like other guy said to wait for next trip and no need for the other guy to worry about Act 2 or whatever. Full meal deal offered up up front and didn't even need coupon to get great deal. Good skills interesting ink no blocking and all over the room, nuff said.

Admin2
02-25-16, 20:25
This is not a report. Post when got somting' Mon.If you don't like what somebody posts then add them to your ignore list. Now that there is a thread for stupid shit like this keep it off of the review threads.

You posting to tell him that his post was useless is the definition of irony.

A2

IndyGuy123
02-27-16, 01:13
Time for a little venting!

Guys, stop telling ladies that they need to charge more for their time. A lady is completely free to decide what her time is worth; higher or lower. If you feel time with her is worth more than her asking rate, tip her, but don't say that she needs to up her asking rate. I have been told by multiple ladies in the last few weeks of guys (including mongers from this board) telling her they need to up their rate. At least one of these ladies, I know well and fully believe that she was told this.

Indy Guy.

GadgetIT
02-27-16, 01:46
Time for a little venting!

Guys, stop telling ladies that they need to charge more for their time. A lady is completely free to decide what her time is worth; higher or lower. If you feel time with her is worth more than her asking rate, tip her, but don't say that she needs to up her asking rate. I have been told by multiple ladies in the last few weeks of guys (including mongers from this board) telling her they need to up their rate. At least one of these ladies, I know well and fully believe that she was told this.

Indy Guy.On one young lady, I had already changed her contact in my phone to the Bond Goldfinger reference- Pussy Galore. But now she's keeps telling me she's being told to ask for more. For some of us with a wicked sex drive and that have been around, it already feels too high.

Stop it,

-G.

BigGuyUAteMe
02-27-16, 12:27
Why shoot yourself in the foot? (billfold) Just trying to get by in this old cruel world best way I know how. Don't raise the price of pussy, I'm on a fixed income!

BG.


Time for a little venting!

Guys, stop telling ladies that they need to charge more for their time. A lady is completely free to decide what her time is worth; higher or lower. If you feel time with her is worth more than her asking rate, tip her, but don't say that she needs to up her asking rate. I have been told by multiple ladies in the last few weeks of guys (including mongers from this board) telling her they need to up their rate. At least one of these ladies, I know well and fully believe that she was told this.

Indy Guy.

Burglar
02-27-16, 12:49
Time for a little venting!

Guys, stop telling ladies that they need to charge more for their time. A lady is completely free to decide what her time is worth; higher or lower. If you feel time with her is worth more than her asking rate, tip her, but don't say that she needs to up her asking rate. I have been told by multiple ladies in the last few weeks of guys (including mongers from this board) telling her they need to up their rate. At least one of these ladies, I know well and fully believe that she was told this.

Indy Guy.I'm so glad your around and fending off the bad habits of mongers. I mean cmon, if your worried about the girl just tip her excessively and leave it be.

Burglar
02-27-16, 13:04
In the past when providers contacted me from an unknown number, I ask questions only she would know the answers to. Just trying to help out.

Burglar.

XNatalieX
02-27-16, 13:21
Time for a little venting!

Guys, stop telling ladies that they need to charge more for their time. A lady is completely free to decide what her time is worth; higher or lower. If you feel time with her is worth more than her asking rate, tip her, but don't say that she needs to up her asking rate. I have been told by multiple ladies in the last few weeks of guys (including mongers from this board) telling her they need to up their rate. At least one of these ladies, I know well and fully believe that she was told this.

Indy Guy.Didn't you tell me I'm worth more than what I've been asking? Hmmmm very very interesting. I'm only busting your balls IndyGuy.

IndyGuy123
02-27-16, 19:54
Didn't you tell me I'm worth more than what I've been asking? Hmmmm very very interesting. I'm only busting your balls IndyGuy.I sure don't remember that. Get your ass back to Indy and we will see if you can get me to a state if euphoria once again were I may have said something like that. Refresh my memory. We can make it a challenge for you. Either way, I win.

Indy Guy.(Do I gotta become South Bend guy for a day?)

Freckle Freak
02-28-16, 11:01
Time for a little venting!

Guys, stop telling ladies that they need to charge more for their time. A lady is completely free to decide what her time is worth; higher or lower. If you feel time with her is worth more than her asking rate, tip her, but don't say that she needs to up her asking rate. I have been told by multiple ladies in the last few weeks of guys (including mongers from this board) telling her they need to up their rate. At least one of these ladies, I know well and fully believe that she was told this.

Indy Guy.I always said in order for a provider to make a million dollars they can look for the one guy willing to pay that amount for a single visit or see a million guys for a buck. Since this is not reality in the hobby world, the correct amount is somewhere in between the two and is really based on supply and demand and marketing. So unless some of you mongers want to become The Marketing Manager for some of these providers then my suggestion is, tip to your hearts content but let the supply and demand side play it's course. Besides the most communicable disease in the hobby is the exposure between a big mouthed monger and a providers ear and the contagion is called GPS.

XNatalieX
02-28-16, 13:54
I sure don't remember that. Get your ass back to Indy and we will see if you can get me to a state if euphoria once again were I may have said something like that. Refresh my memory. We can make it a challenge for you. Either way, I win.

Indy Guy.(Do I gotta become South Bend guy for a day?)I put you in a state of euphoria a few times the weekend I was visiting. I'm sure it'll be just as easy the next time I come down to visit because you're my special IndyGuy haha. This redhead is ready to refresh that memory of yours.

IndyGuy123
02-28-16, 19:32
I put you in a state of euphoria a few times the weekend I was visiting. I'm sure it'll be just as easy the next time I come down to visit because you're my special IndyGuy haha. This redhead is ready to refresh that memory of yours.You're a redhead? My memory must be worse than I thought. It may take a few rounds to fully refresh my memory. This time the counting may need to expand past the fingers. We may need to keep count on the toes this time as well.

Indy Guy.

BobUp
02-29-16, 16:12
I sure don't remember that. Get your ass back to Indy and we will see if you can get me to a state if euphoria once again were I may have said something like that. Refresh my memory. We can make it a challenge for you. Either way, I win.

Indy Guy.(Do I gotta become South Bend guy for a day?)You two stop that bickering.

I just checked goggle maps and surprisingly I found it's the same distance for you to visit her up here.

So here's the plan, you round up FF and Hot 40, we'll meet at HH. I'll buy all a cheap draft or two then make certain that my friends there get you all worked up, kinda think of it as appetizer. You follow me back North and I'll delivery you right to Natalie's doorstep.

IndyGuy123
02-29-16, 17:28
You two stop that bickering.
I figured the first smart ass comment would at least come from an Indy resident. You do present a viable option though. Allow me to give a better option. She can ride down to HH with you. Give you some nice company for that boring drive. You guys can stay and have the appetizers while I go have the main course.

Indy Guy.

Kyussfan
02-29-16, 19:03
I figured the first smart ass comment would at least come from an Indy resident. You do present a viable option though. Allow me to give a better option. She can ride down to HH with you. Give you some nice company for that boring drive. You guys can stay and have the appetizers while I go have the main course.

Indy Guy.I'm beginning to picture wedding bells in Indyguy's near future. I mean why not? You and Natalie already sound like you're married. LOL!! With this much entertainment, I no longer have to drink. I just read all these fun tidbits while watching LaVerne and Shirley reruns on my Betamax. Carry on!

IndyGuy123
03-01-16, 00:11
I'm beginning to picture wedding bells in Indyguy's near future. I mean why not? You and Natalie already sound like you're married. LOL!! With this much entertainment, I no longer have to drink. I just read all these fun tidbits while watching LaVerne and Shirley reruns on my Betamax. Carry on!If this is even slightly entertaining, you should see the conversations off the board. I try valantly to win the arguments but always seem to lose.

The beauty of The Prickyard. Have all the fun you want or argue all you want without taking away from the reviews. Glad we can save some longevity of your liver. No such luck on my end.

Indy Guy.

Freckle Freak
03-01-16, 10:27
I figured the first smart ass comment would at least come from an Indy resident. You do present a viable option though. Allow me to give a better option. She can ride down to HH with you. Give you some nice company for that boring drive. You guys can stay and have the appetizers while I go have the main course.

Indy Guy.I'm retired. Thanks Bobup for picking up the slack.

IndyGuy123
03-02-16, 12:54
Indyguy, it's comforting to know that in a vocation that the mindset of two parties is similar to the polarizing of two magnets, that the formation of friendships based on mutual respect and concern for each other as well as the hobby itself is possible and is testament to the quality and character of many that partake. You are not alone as I count others here among my friends that I can rely on that we can share information that protects us, that makes us laugh, and that warms our heart and sometimes simply say "WTF".

This business is about rapport and enthusiasm and just plain old technique and building relationships even if only momentarily.You definitely share some stories that truly create those "WTF" moments.

Don't want to monopolize this thread with too many responses but this lady and some of the intel that she has provided has kept more than one member of this forum from making unwanted trips to a family member's house. She tries to look out for both sides of the hobby with you are a client of hers or not.

Indy Guy.

BobUp
03-02-16, 20:43
I'm retired. Thanks Bobup for picking up the slack.Oh hell no not even close, FF. That's not going to happen you the King! Them be some big shoes to fill. Even up here you're a legend.

Natalie and IndyGuy well they're just Easy Pickins.

BigGuyUAteMe
03-03-16, 14:26
Retirement is OK, but don't ever leave the board.

Freckle Freak is a legend, he has been a very wise, giving board member. I thank him for all that he has done and the knowledge he has shared.

P.S., he is a legend to many women also for that long, black serpent tongue. He has spoiled many maidens!

BG,

[QUOTE=Bobup;2819898]Oh hell no not even close, FF. That's not going to happen you the King! Them be some big shoes to fill. Even up here you're a legend.

Natalie and IndyGuy well they're just Easy Pickins. [ / QUOT].

Freckle Freak
03-04-16, 07:46
?How do you know this? Are you the police?SuperFun's comment is an example of a Newbie and a 4 time posters mental fatigue. SF there are senior members who have been around for a while and have ties to the hobby that Newbies just don't understand and won't until they develop experience and a reputation. Indyguy was very accurate and another monger on this board knew exactly when she was released from uncle. That's what we do, give info that helps EVERYONE on this board to stay as safe as possible.


Are you a dumbass or a newbie? BG,BigGuy, yup probably not a dumbass but he is a Newbie with 4 posts. Jackson wants all of these Newbies on this site and so do all of us old dogs who are trying to teach all you young pups the best way to find the best bone in the lot. Read the First Time Posters and Newbies blog from the bottom up. See the link below.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?19166-First-Time-Posters-and-Newbies&p=2716976&viewfull=1#post2716976

DexterIndy
03-04-16, 21:28
SuperFun's comment is an example of a Newbie and a 4 time posters mental fatigue. SF there are senior members who have been around for a while and have ties to the hobby that Newbies just don't understand and won't until they develop experience and a reputation. Indyguy was very accurate and another monger on this board knew exactly when she was released from uncle. That's what we do, give info that helps EVERYONE on this board to stay as safe as possible.

BigGuy, yup probably not a dumbass but he is a Newbie with 4 posts. Jackson wants all of these Newbies on this site and so do all of us old dogs who are trying to teach all you young pups the best way to find the best bone in the lot. Read the First Time Posters and Newbies blog from the bottom up. See the link below.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?19166-First-Time-Posters-and-Newbies&p=2716976&viewfull=1#post2716976Nice directions 😋.

Freckle Freak
03-05-16, 08:32
Not your personal army. Get over it.You want to pick a fight, well you better know the facts before you fight. You have no idea the history or the facts behind a redhead that many on this board already know. You will be up against a lot of seniors who might have an issue with you picking a fight because my personal army isn't FF it's a slew of others. So IndyAnon maybe you should have thought about a PM instead of posting what you did on open forum. Maybe you should have asked why instead of attacking. Believe it or not there are some safety issues here that even someone like you might want to consider before a visit. Maybe you should have scrolled down and read some of the other posts on the same thread about the same subject before so blatantly sticking your dick out there to be stepped on. But go ahead, pick your fight, it's your choice. We all have choices, mine is to not fight, but I will defend!

IndyAnon
03-05-16, 09:44
This all looks like a repeat from the past back when your posted on aNotheR forum.

Some people may remember "FreckledRedHead". One day Freckle you were extolling her virtues and the next your complaints were much the same. No respect etc. Etc.

As it turned out. You randomly were showing up at her house in front of her kids and boyfriend and were accused of stalking her.

So no I don't believe your account of the other redhead here is credible due to past indiscretions.

Mwdude
03-05-16, 09:52
It's called "White Knighting".

BigGuyUAteMe
03-05-16, 10:12
IndyAnon, I don't know you, but I do know freckle Freak and would stand with him in any fight. I know about the drama sounding SexyRed and you should have done two things.

(1) not put this on blast for everyone to see. A PM would have been the proper way!

(2) like all do your research!

Know the facts before jumping into anything.

BG,

P.S. Better to look like a fool, than to open your mouth and prove your one!


This all looks like a repeat from the past back when your posted on aNotheR forum.

Some people may remember "FreckledRedHead". One day Freckle you were extolling her virtues and the next your complaints were much the same. No respect etc. Etc.

As it turned out. You randomly were showing up at her house in front of her kids and boyfriend and were accused of stalking her.

So no I don't believe your account of the other redhead here is credible due to past indiscretions.

IndyAnon
03-05-16, 10:17
IndyAnon, I don't know you, but I do know freckle Freak and would stand with him in any fight. I know about the drama sounding SexyRed and you should have done two things.

(1) not put this on blast for everyone to see. A PM would have been the proper way!

(2) like all do your research!

Know the facts before jumping into anything.

BG,

P.S. Better to look like a fool, than to open your mouth and prove your one!Where is there another negative report on SexyRed besides #7635? Anyone?

One person with a history of stalking isn't credible.

Freckle Freak
03-05-16, 10:30
Where is there another negative report on SexyRed besides #7635? Anyone?

One person with a history of stalking isn't credible.Start reading from the below post and then at least the next few posts. Some things are not posted on the board for many reasons. Sometimes what others say is reason enough. It's your choice.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4037-Escort-Reports&p=2816932&viewfull=1#post2816932

Freckle Freak
03-05-16, 10:43
This all looks like a repeat from the past back when your posted on aNotheR forum.

Some people may remember "FreckledRedHead". One day Freckle you were extolling her virtues and the next your complaints were much the same. No respect etc. Etc.

As it turned out. You randomly were showing up at her house in front of her kids and boyfriend and were accused of stalking her.

So no I don't believe your account of the other redhead here is credible due to past indiscretions.And you don't know the truth about that one either. We all make mistakes in helping providers in hopes they go the right path in life. You want to bring her out on this forum, well you better be ready to defend your comments about a past issue that you have no idea of what the truth is when many others do. That ex-provider is so messed up right now that her current life downfall is proof enough of my story. So since you know so much why don't you go over and see her and stay on that side of town. Go ahead and attack again. Your good at talking about things you know NOTHING about. Ignorance is bliss isn't it!

IndyGuy123
03-05-16, 12:09
I have kept quiet until this point but felt I should chime in at some point. Those that have been on this board for a while, have at least an idea of my previous involvement with the provider being discussed. I would contend that I probably know her better than anyone on this board with possibly the exception of FF and have knowledge of the situations discussed back to when they occured. I have chosen to stay out of this argument until this point for reasons that have not been mentioned so far and will not be at any point.

The bottom line is FF mentioned in a posting the word "choices". It is every monger's choice as to whether or not they choose to see her. Some will refuse to see her. Some will see her and openly admit it. While others will see her privately while at the same time claiming they will not see her publicly.

Every monger has a choice on who they choose to see. Feel free to read what is out her, the parties involved, and make your own choice. No one can stop you! Several members of this board have already expressed this but sometimes the brotherhood needs to stick together. Choices? What is yours?

Indy Guy.

Mmgeg
03-05-16, 12:36
This all looks like a repeat from the past back when your posted on aNotheR forum.

Some people may remember "FreckledRedHead". One day Freckle you were extolling her virtues and the next your complaints were much the same. No respect etc. Etc.

As it turned out. You randomly were showing up at her house in front of her kids and boyfriend and were accused of stalking her.

So no I don't believe your account of the other redhead here is credible due to past indiscretions.So Not sure what your deal is and it's not your "personal army " to try to slander and accuse someone of something that is what third party coffee talk? Were you sitting in the closet hiding when FF arrived "stalking "? FF has always looked at both sides of a situation when it has came to problems between providers and mongers. He has always stated his opinions fairly and justifiably. Obviously there is factual basis on things in regards to this that he feels mongers should know. So really not understanding this personal attack on someone that has been nothing but a reliable, respected and reputable member of this forum. Obviously there is truth and facts to what FF has said unlike yours. FYI he's NOT the only one that has had issues with her and I've never seen a post that FF has commented on, started etc without merit and facts. So I'm sure the other 15-20 mongers that she has screwed over and done wrong would tell you the same thing. Oh and my posting BTW is not based on third party coffee talk, mine comes from the "friends " that have visited me that have personally been affected by her ways. Let her fight her own battles and own up to her behavior. Speaking of "white night " syndrome as you mentioned. Sounds like you are trying to be the knight in this situation and really dude your trying to the save wrong hoe.

IndyAnon
03-05-16, 13:02
I have kept quiet until this point but felt I should chime in at some point. Those that have been on this board for a while, have at least an idea of my previous involvement with the provider being discussed. I would contend that I probably know her better than anyone on this board with possibly the exception of FF and have knowledge of the situations discussed back to when they occured. I have chosen to stay out of this argument until this point for reasons that have not been mentioned so far and will not be at any point.

The bottom line is FF mentioned in a posting the word "choices". It is every monger's choice as to whether or not they choose to see her. Some will refuse to see her. Some will see her and openly admit it. While others will see her privately while at the same time claiming they will not see her publicly.

Every monger has a choice on who they choose to see. Feel free to read what is out her, the parties involved, and make your own choice. No one can stop you! Several members of this board have already expressed this but sometimes the brotherhood needs to stick together. Choices? What is yours?

Indy Guy.Well said.

For the record FF, I think you're a valuable asset to the forum but mongers, in general, have a tendency to get attached. Which is why I suggest viewing things with a jaundiced eye.

"There are three sides to every story: your side, my side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each differently."

Nostra3
03-05-16, 14:40
IndyAnon, I don't know you, but I do know freckle Freak and would stand with him in any fight. I know about the drama sounding SexyRed and you should have done two things.

(1) not put this on blast for everyone to see. A PM would have been the proper way!

(2) like all do your research!

Know the facts before jumping into anything.

BG,

P.S. Better to look like a fool, than to open your mouth and prove your one!I whole heartedly second BG on this. FF is a stand up guy and I stand with him. He does have the ability to actually care about the well being of providers in a way that I've never had, but stalking is an outrageous claim made by someone who is a big of a disaster as SexyRed is. Absolutely no truth to that story, period.

XNatalieX
03-05-16, 15:01
I whole heartedly second BG on this. FF is a stand up guy and I stand with him. He does have the ability to actually care about the well being of providers in a way that I've never had, but stalking is an outrageous claim made by someone who is a big of a disaster as SexyRed is. Absolutely no truth to that story, period.I never had the chance to meet FF because he went into retirement right before my visit to Indy, but I had a crappy incident happen to me while there and he took time out of his day to talk to me over the phone and gave me really good advice. He really is a great guy and I don't believe he stalked anybody, but how can you blame a guy for stalking a provider who was likely a hot ass red head with freckles. I would've stalked the hell out of her too.

Scup1958
03-05-16, 15:27
I whole heartedly second BG on this. FF is a stand up guy and I stand with him. He does have the ability to actually care about the well being of providers in a way that I've never had, but stalking is an outrageous claim made by someone who is a big of a disaster as SexyRed is. Absolutely no truth to that story, period.I never met SexyRed, and I know very little about her issues. But I have known FF for years and I know that his good intentions toward providers sometimes results in his being more involved in their lives than most of us care to be. To characterize his good intentions as stalking is, as Nostra has said, simply outrageous. Thank you FF for being such a good friend to so many of the ladies and gents of this community.

Kyussfan
03-05-16, 16:55
I never met SexyRed, and I know very little about her issues. But I have known FF for years and I know that his good intentions toward providers sometimes results in his being more involved in their lives than most of us care to be. To characterize his good intentions as stalking is, as Nostra has said, simply outrageous. Thank you FF for being such a good friend to so many of the ladies and gents of this community.Although I'm still very low in the ranks, I'd like to chime in. I've been hobbying for quite some time, and I too have genuinely cared about a few along the way. That makes me guilty of nothing but kindness. Nothing good ever evolved, but at least I made an effort. Some are here to find something lost, other to explore new places. Either way, lets not forget the primary objective. To share information and to have the back of our fellow comrades. Both active AND retired. There will always be those of us who do things differently than others, but remember why we're all here. To have fun and stay safe. Everyone is responsible for taking all available information, and making their own decisions based on what THEY think is best. If you don't like Howard Stern, listen to Bob and Tom. But share what you've learned and let other decide their fate. During the middle of writing all of this, my cassette player ate my Duran Duran greatest hits tape, so now I'm sad. Don't be sad like me, go out and monger!!

Inndy1
03-05-16, 17:22
This all looks like a repeat from the past back when your posted on aNotheR forum.

Some people may remember "FreckledRedHead". One day Freckle you were extolling her virtues and the next your complaints were much the same. No respect etc. Etc.

As it turned out. You randomly were showing up at her house in front of her kids and boyfriend and were accused of stalking her.

So no I don't believe your account of the other redhead here is credible due to past indiscretions.Anyone that questions FF in any way shape or form has no clue. He has done more than most ever would for people and if he says it you can can guarantee it so everyone makes their own choices. If you choose not to listen that's in you.

Hotforty
03-05-16, 21:20
Disclaimer: I am biased; however, I can't be bought--there was no exchange of beer for the content of this post.

Now, with that out of the way, I must point out some of what others are saying. Look at these post titles:

If you question FF there is no help.

This hobby has no better friend than FF.

Truth.

Choices!

These positive comments, borne out of first-hand observation, come from both sides of this hobby. That should send a clear message about the fella.

What I have seen, also first-hand, is that this character (and OMG he is!) has character. He is not one to speak out of turn, based on rumor or conjecture. He has an intimate perspective on the hobby.

FF has been known to go way beyond the extra mile to help providers (and is happily reaping what he sowed) as well as provide top-notch insight, wisdom and even coaching to mongers (which is why he gets free beer).

Thank you, Sensei, for your wisdom, wit and friendship.

LancePkrbttm
03-05-16, 21:58
FF reached out to me unsolicited and helped my beyond all I ever expected. I met a guy who showed excellent judgement, values and really cares about people. He demonstrated a level of integrity that when combined with the before mentioned qualities that would make me consider anything said contrary to his version of events with extreme skeptisism. I generally am an excellent judge of character in people I meet. I am rarely surprised and usually assume the worst. That's about all I can comment because I don't have any direct knowledge of the details of the rest of this stuff. But FF is "good people".

IndyGuy123
03-05-16, 22:39
but how can you blame a guy for stalking a provider who was likely a hot ass red head with freckles. I would've stalked the hell out of her too.Good thing you included that last sentence. Otherwise, I would have said you have no room to talk. I think I remember sitting in a certain location on the north side of town and you stalked me up to the point of showing up in the same parking lot where I was taking a leisurely siesta on a nice afternoon.

That is my version of the story and I am sticking to it! LOL.

Indy Guy.

Two Nutts
03-06-16, 08:38
To stand on the FF bandwagon. And its a long line. I've known and partied with the man for many years, he is a true honest gentleman if there ever was one. I've been on this board for longer than I'd like to admit and have met many friends because of it. FF is one of my closest. INDYASSHOLE you will never be one. Go blow your shit up another tree, find anouther playground or just fucking go away.

Nells M All
03-06-16, 08:43
I never met SexyRed, and I know very little about her issues. But I have known FF for years and I know that his good intentions toward providers sometimes results in his being more involved in their lives than most of us care to be. To characterize his good intentions as stalking is, as Nostra has said, simply outrageous. Thank you FF for being such a good friend to so many of the ladies and gents of this community.I'm with freckle master have known FF for years and I know that his good intentions toward providers sometimes results in his being more involved in their lives than most of us care to be. To characterize his good intentions as stalking is, as Nostra has said, simply outrageous. Thank you FF for being such a good friend to so many of the ladies and gents of this community.

Mwdude
03-06-16, 10:49
It's a fucking landslide in favor of FF.

y'all can make your own decisions, but FF has always been very good to both sides of the hobby.

Sara8032
03-06-16, 11:18
Where is there another negative report on SexyRed besides #7635? Anyone?

One person with a history of stalking isn't credible.When I first saw the original post I thought "oh, well this is going to be interesting ". And I sat back and watched. No need to reiterate all the respect and friendships that FF has earned, including mine. My observation is simply where are the posts by the subject matter defending herself (if admin2 were to allow them, I almost believe he would in this case). Anyhow, you are the only one to come to her defense. She didn't even try and refute anything. Hmmmm. When she showed up on the scene she was everyone's favorite, but providers go bad all the time unfortunately. There was a post a few weeks back about why providers provide. For some, when the core reasons they chose to provide get the best of them, often they don't make the wisest decisions. And their life starts snowballing down hill. (No FF, not that kind of snowballing). Anyhow those are my observations and so through this whole shit storm to paraphrase Mwdude, it's FF by a landslide.

Next.

BigMack
03-06-16, 11:41
With all of those glowing accolades he is going to be 10 xs as difficult to deal with now. When summer comes let's all go to his place and watch him attempt to navigate his swimming pool on TOP of the water LMAO Seriously he is a nice guy but he already knows that Hang in FF Summer is coming.

BobUp
03-06-16, 12:16
Good God when did the man pass? Starting to sound like a frickin eulogy LOL

I've never meant FF in person but three months back through emails and phone calls he provided some great advice when I was having some hobby related issues. Few people would have taken time with a stranger. Speaks volume of his character!

Two Nutts
03-06-16, 15:02
Trump endorsed FF.

Golfer72
03-06-16, 15:25
Anon is a dick. FF speaks the truth. That is all.

Mwdude
03-06-16, 17:24
I'll just add that I'm glad FF is retired though because that clears up some space with providers.

Kyussfan
03-06-16, 18:24
Trump endorsed FF.I'm beginning to wonder why I mail out two hundred dollars each month to the satellite company. I've yet to find a channel with this much entertainment!! Now is a good time to stop sniffing model glue, and spend my money on FF For President T-shirts. All in favor, say aye!

Chill Pill
03-06-16, 19:14
I couldn't have said it better myself. FF has a heart of gold and the accusations of stalking couldn't be farther from the truth. So crawl back into that.

Miserable little world you live in Indy AA. (AA stands for absolute asshole or standard acronym you pick).


You want to pick a fight, well you better know the facts before you fight. You have no idea the history or the facts behind a redhead that many on this board already know. You will be up against a lot of seniors who might have an issue with you picking a fight because my personal army isn't FF it's a slew of others. So IndyAnon maybe you should have thought about a PM instead of posting what you did on open forum. Maybe you should have asked why instead of attacking. Believe it or not there are some safety issues here that even someone like you might want to consider before a visit. Maybe you should have scrolled down and read some of the other posts on the same thread about the same subject before so blatantly sticking your dick out there to be stepped on. But go ahead, pick your fight, it's your choice. We all have choices, mine is to not fight, but I will defend!

IndyGuy123
03-06-16, 23:58
I'll just add that I'm glad FF is retired though because that clears up some space with providers.I think this was the first thing I said to him after his retirement report. Finally, I might be able to see a redhead before him since all the reds seem to have freckles. Even post-hobby, he seems to beat me because he has already seen every lady this side of the Mason-Dixon Line. Probably most of them on the other side as well but I gave up my survey there and crawled back to my little corner of Indy feeling at a lose for words.


With all of those glowing accolades he is going to be 10 xs as difficult to deal with now. When summer comes let's all go to his place and watch him attempt to navigate his swimming pool on TOP of the water LMAO Seriously he is a nice guy but he already knows that Hang in FF Summer is coming.This has been my mindset from near the start of this. The "Connisseur of Melanin" is going to have a head so big that we will all be able to see him coming from the other side of town.

Even his pool is pocka dotted so that it resembles freckles!

Indy Guy.

Freckle Freak
03-07-16, 02:51
To stir up a hornets nest, wasn't it IA?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_znYyh7t63E

I called Fox and told them I wouldn't be running because I can't afford the campaign after all these years of being in the hobby. Besides they wouldn't let a known monger in the White House they only re-elect them. It's obvious Bill didn't read this board before leaving his DNA on Monica's blue dress or he would have known the benefits of BBBJTCWS or snowballing to the last drop! Guess she wasn't a GFE provider.


If you don't like Howard Stern, listen to Bob and Tom.Hey Kyussfan, didn't Bob retire? Shit or was that Tom? Oh well I never could tell the two of them apart because I was always looking at Kristi's freckles.

Now it's time for a retirement beer or two or three or more. Anybody want to join? Price of admission is a blond, brunette or redhead with freckles, any one of them or all, cause I'm willing to share, or at least watch!

Freckle Freak
03-07-16, 03:40
This is for all the members on this board, hobbyists and providers. I appreciate the support but I'm not the one that is reliable and I am only a monger, nothing more. It takes two to be reliable and friends, I am only one. The mongers and providers on this board that have graciously helped me throughout the years and were around when I needed their help and advice are the true friends, the true good mongers and providers. We all have challenges in our life and some, more now than in the past, have turned to drugs to resolve them. I have spent time with a lot of mongers on this board and many, some freckled some not, providers. I have only been helpful and nice because that's what so many of you have taught me. It was an easy path to follow with such a great group leading the way. There is a special group here in Indy, keep it that way. Do what everyone else has taught me, show respect, care a little, go out of your way to be nice, help each other, communicate effectively, don't judge, naive is ok but don't let them stomp on you. Last but not least if you do all of these things and you still get shit on, then fight back because they obviously don't have the same respect for the hobby that most of you on this board have. I don't care whether you are a provider or monger. Providers remember it's your body, your life, do what you want but don't let some asshole judge you or take advantage of you. If they do call IG, because I'm retired! Ok you can call me if he doesn't answer his phone, he never does unless it's Natalie!

Like I said before I'm not leaving the board, I will still be around (yes Mwdude space is now available) but I am tired of the drugs and BS and I have some great Autumn Sky freckles at home. So until she starts providing again I will try and be good. If she does then I want everyone to know that I get to watch!

IndyGuy123
03-07-16, 10:10
Providers remember it's your body, your life, do what you want but don't let some asshole judge you or take advantage of you. If they do call IG, because I'm retired!With an open invitation like this, I think I will need to recruit another partner in any and all future "Operations"!


Ok you can call me if he doesn't answer his phone, he never does unless it's Natalie!You know very well this ain't true. I eventually get back to you. It just happens to be that I do not check the phone as quickly when the indicator light isn't flashing red as it does for her.


Good God when did the man pass? Starting to sound like a frickin eulogy LOL
Didn't you know he is writing all of this posthumously? He was slowly but surely suffocated to hobby death under a freckled warm Autumn Sky!

Indy Guy.

P.S. : I see you have let the hobby torch go. Also see that you have stole the freckles markings right off of it!

Freckle Freak
03-07-16, 10:28
P.S. : I see you have let the hobby torch go. Also see that you have stole the freckles markings right off of it!Sorry, wrong torch!

DaveRue
03-07-16, 10:44
Sorry, wrong torch!I usually try to avoid the prickyard. But in this case, I really want there to be a "like" button.

James555
03-07-16, 10:54
This is for all the members on this board, hobbyists and providers. I appreciate the support but I'm not the one that is reliable and I am only a monger, nothing more. It takes two to be reliable and friends, I am only one. The mongers and providers on this board that have graciously helped me throughout the years and were around when I needed their help and advice are the true friends, the true good mongers and providers. We all have challenges in our life and some, more now than in the past, have turned to drugs to resolve them. I have spent time with a lot of mongers on this board and many, some freckled some not, providers. I have only been helpful and nice because that's what so many of you have taught me. It was an easy path to follow with such a great group leading the way. There is a special group here in Indy, keep it that way. Do what everyone else has taught me, show respect, care a little, go out of your way to be nice, help each other, communicate effectively, don't judge, naive is ok but don't let them stomp on you. Last but not least if you do all of these things and you still get shit on, then fight back because they obviously don't have the same respect for the hobby that most of you on this board have. I don't care whether you are a provider or monger. Providers remember it's your body, your life, do what you want but don't let some asshole judge you or take advantage of you. If they do call IG, because I'm retired! Ok you can call me if he doesn't answer his phone, he never does unless it's Natalie!

Like I said before I'm not leaving the board, I will still be around (yes Mwdude space is now available) but I am tired of the drugs and BS and I have some great Autumn Sky freckles at home. So until she starts providing again I will try and be good. If she does then I want everyone to know that I get to watch!Not sure that sainthood is in the cards, but FF might get close. My ATF knows him, and he has personally helped her out. Moreover, she is aware of some situations where he reached out (way above and beyond) to help out providers who wanted to get off pharmaceuticals. From what I read, that is has been pretty regular thing for him. I'm fairly new to the area, and he helped be immensely, as Indy is a little difficult to figure out with all the UTR providers and cryptic messages on this board. Pretty high standards for mongers to emulate.

HunterGatherer
03-07-16, 11:21
Hey Kyussfan, didn't Bob retire? Shit or was that Tom? Oh well I never could tell the two of them apart because I was always looking at Kristi's freckles.

Bob retired. As to Kristi, she liked to party back in the day, and it never cost me any more than a concert ticket and a few beers. You can take the girl out of the trailer park.

Freckle Freak
03-07-16, 11:28
Not sure that sainthood is in the cards, but FF might get close.Rolling over in their graves, yes all of them! The only saints on this board are Ilapp and Two Nutts. They have to be Saints to put up with me all of these years. I'm just a Old Fat Bald guy who took up the hobby looking for freckles and found some. Yes Hot Forty a one woman man, at least for today!

Stnick62
03-07-16, 16:34
After signing on one day recently and finding his part of the forum I was wondering where the hell did this come from and why is it here. I read a few comments and immediately got more confused. I nearly sent a message to ask WTF but remained. So today I met with a long time 2+ years friend and go my brains blown out of my head and rearranged and now it was all clear. Came home from an outstanding time and signed on the USA Sex Guide. Clicked on The Prickyard and did what I should have done the first time I saw it. I went to the pages and clicked on 'Last' and scrolled down to where the Administrator explained why it was created and what it's purpose is. Ok now everyone laugh at my stupidity but I plead that I needed my brain blown for clarity. Sweet M took care of blowing my brain out and for that I thank her. BTW I now have my own personal DeflateGate.

StillNotMe
03-08-16, 08:01
Rolling over in their graves, yes all of them! The only saints on this board are Ilapp and Two Nutts. They have to be Saints to put up with me all of these years. I'm just a Old Fat Bald guy who took up the hobby looking for freckles and found some. Yes Hot Forty a one woman man, at least for today!You saying your an old fat bald guy, is an afront to us actual old fat bald guys (well, in a few years).

Hotforty
03-08-16, 08:50
FF, you should not lie! You have more hair left than I, so calling yourself 'Bald' is a bald-faced lie. Even when I stop shaving my (big) head, there is a large hole in my hair.


I'm just a Old Fat Bald guy who took up the hobby looking for freckles and found some. Yes Hot Forty a one woman man, at least for today!The scariest thing about having you as a chum, freckle sensei and beer bud, is that you influence me to do good. Just so you know, that thought occurred to me yesterday while sitting on the side of a highway helping a provider get a tow truck for her car.

Freckle Freak
03-08-16, 09:38
FF, you should not lie! You have more hair left than I, so calling yourself 'Bald' is a bald-faced lie. Even when I stop shaving my (big) head, there is a large hole in my hair.

The scariest thing about having you as a chum, freckle sensei and beer bud, is that you influence me to do good. Just so you know, that thought occurred to me yesterday while sitting on the side of a highway helping a provider get a tow truck for her car.You probably got some type of service for you humanitarian efforts. I would have paid for the tow truck and probably given her some money to get the car fixed and hoped Karma would be favorable to me in the future. This is one of the reasons I no longer believe in Karma! By the way thanks for sending me the picture of your reward.

LuvGingerGirls
03-08-16, 12:44
You probably got some type of service for you humanitarian efforts. I would have paid for the tow truck and probably given her some money to get the car fixed and hoped Karma would be favorable to me in the future. This is one of the reasons I no longer believe in Karma! By the way thanks for sending me the picture of your reward.During my first trip to Montreal, (Oct 1, 1991) I left the airport and as soon as I arrived at the bus stop, a beggar asked me something in French. I responded with "desole, je ne parle pas francais tres bien" (Sorry, I don't speak French very well.) Actually, I can speak it,(though at that time Ionly knew maybe 800 words) but I barely understand squat when it's spoken to me.

Anyway, that doesn't work in a bilingual city. Though I didn't have much money, I ended up buying him a cheeseburger and a Coke.

One thing that I still clearly remember from the conversation we had was him saying "I can tell you're a good person. You'll be paid back. When you do something good for somebody, you're always paid back. Not always by the same person, but you're always paid back. Same goes for bad. ".

And I have noticed that yeah, it pretty much does happen that way. BUT, if you're actively trying to see it, it seems to blow right by you.

It eventually inspired a verse on one of my songs.

"A beggar man taught me a lesson.

That is still with me today.

One good deed begets another.

And always you are repaid".

So yeah Karma, divine retribution, payment of the universe, whatever you want to call it, I've seen it happen too much to discount it.

Ilapp
03-08-16, 12:58
Rolling over in their graves, yes all of them! The only saints on this board are Ilapp and Two Nutts. They have to be Saints to put up with me all of these years. I'm just a Old Fat Bald guy who took up the hobby looking for freckles and found some. Yes Hot Forty a one woman man, at least for today!Just saying. The old fat bald part. Saint no, fool yes, but the heart wants what the heart wants.

Freckle Freak
03-08-16, 13:22
During my first trip to Montreal. And I have noticed that yeah, it pretty much does happen that way. BUT, if you're actively trying to see it, it seems to blow right by you.

So yeah Karma, divine retribution, payment of the universe, whatever you want to call it, I've seen it happen too much to discount it.My first trip to Montreal I was robbed by a cabbie. My hotel was only 5 miles from the airport and he took me on an hour ride around the city costing me way more than the ride back when I departed and realized how close the airport really was. At which time I said "merde quel imbcile j'avais t".

FwtoIndy I have never "actively tried to see it", but I have also noticed that some people win the lottery, LOL. Interesting that a French Canadian would put so much stock in a Sanskrit origin. I truly believe that luck runs with some, as does Karma. Could somebody please chase it in my direction? My catchers mitt is ready!

IndyGuy123
03-08-16, 14:03
Just saying. The old fat bald part. Saint no, fool yes, but the heart wants what the heart wants.I will stick with my own name for ya, Godfather! Can you do a good Marlon Brando? Please just don't ask me to kiss your ring or anything else for that matter. Well unless it is another fine lady you point me towards.

Consigliere Guy.

Freckle Freak
03-09-16, 09:01
Ilapp. You have every right to say what you said, and as a newbie, I agree. But, if we're on this board, we're trying to protect ourselves. By asking the advice of seniors like you, we are trying to make informed decisions. With that said, we should RTFF, before we post asking for advice. I understand you're trying to protect yourself, and I understand, but don't be so hard on somebody trying to further themselves in the hobby. Admin, Move this to The Prickyard, if you need to.Duke I think up the wrong tree you are barking. Yes I know it's not the correct way to say the phrase but it's an example of the language of Ilapp which took me years to learn how to decipher. Protection of whom? Frustration is a more proper Ilapp dialect. Phoneguy already posted a response, in a FF sarcastic manner, admitting his short term ignorance so it was one and done. Now if you have issues beyond the response or want to further yourself then read the Newbie forum and ask questions in the General Forum. You can even PM someone if your nice about it you may get a response. Believe it or not Seniors are here to try and protect both Providers and ALL mongers including newbies.

Freckle Freak
03-09-16, 10:06
Too all those that know Sexyred, you know that she is extremely good at the provider side, however she has two issues.

One is her capability to maintain a clean hygiene from appointment to appointment and past indiscretions with health and safety.

Two is her inability to show respect to mongers who went out of their way to help her in the past. Now this goes towards the brotherhood and how we support each other. Is this somewhat of a Leslie scenario, not from a dangerous standpoint but it is from a rip-off perspective.

As always choice is a mongers discretion.I am going to make this as simple as possible. I met with SexyRed and she has had some extreme personal issues that affected her discernment but she has worked hard at dealing with them and for that I give her a great deal of credit. As I have stated many times in the past we all are human and sometimes circumstances of life make us take the wrong fork in the road. Thanks to our federal gasoline taxes bridges can be built to reconnect the two forks. Such a bridge has been forged by SexyRed to repair past behavior and indiscretions. That being said I feel it important to clarify the issues previously posted.

"Past indiscretions with health and safety as well as hygiene. " These have been addressed and are no longer an issue. As always choices are made in the privacy of a monger and provider and it's not up to me to judge these choices.

"Inability to show respect to mongers who helped her in the past" She is repairing the relationships with these mongers and she will be making retribution in a short time frame. Trust is key here. As always I will take the side of a provider who I feel has shown true remorse and is asking to re-establish some trust. So I trust that this will be resolved as she indicated.

That's all that I feel needs to be said at this time. The choice is now yours.

IndyAnon
03-09-16, 13:52
I am going to make this as simple as possible. I met with SexyRed and she has had some extreme personal issues that affected her discernment but she has worked hard at dealing with them and for that I give her a great deal of credit. As I have stated many times in the past we all are human and sometimes circumstances of life make us take the wrong fork in the road. Thanks to our federal gasoline taxes bridges can be built to reconnect the two forks. Such a bridge has been forged by SexyRed to repair past behavior and indiscretions. That being said I feel it important to clarify the issues previously posted.

"Past indiscretions with health and safety as well as hygiene. " These have been addressed and are no longer an issue. As always choices are made in the privacy of a monger and provider and it's not up to me to judge these choices.

"Inability to show respect to mongers who helped her in the past" She is repairing the relationships with these mongers and she will be making retribution in a short time frame. Trust is key here. As always I will take the side of a provider who I feel has shown true remorse and is asking to re-establish some trust. So I trust that this will be resolved as she indicated.

That's all that I feel needs to be said at this time. The choice is now yours.What a shock! What did you get a free ride to layoff on the board? It seems to be the MO.

Freckle Freak
03-09-16, 14:10
What a shock! What did you get a free ride to layoff on the board? It seems to be the MO.I don't take free rides, but of course you won't believe me so I will let others clarify this for you once again since you obviously missed something with the first deluge of responses. I also sent you a PM. Most likely it will be the last one sent to you, but I will not guarantee it. Have a great day!

IndyAnon
03-09-16, 14:26
I don't take free rides, but of course you won't believe me so I will let others clarify this for you once again since obviously missed something with the first deluge of responses. I also sent you a PM. Most likely it will be the last one sent to you, but I will not guarantee it. Have a great day!The irony of the "character witnesses" wasn't lost. As ever member of this board would be labeled as a social deviant by society.

Altruism doesn't exist. They are just a bunch of people deluding themselves.

Freckle Freak
03-09-16, 15:01
The irony of the "character witnesses" wasn't lost. As ever member of this board would be labeled as a social deviant by society.

Altruism doesn't exist. They are just a bunch of people deluding themselves.Altruism Def: The belief in or practice of disinterested and selfless concern for the well-being of others. Those that believe in Jesus feel he practiced selfless concern for the well being of others. I don't happen to believe in this higher power but I do believe in the goodness of humanity as a whole and his ability to rationalize the difference between what is right and wrong. Just because the society we live within believes this board is deviant doesn't mean that other cultures who have progressed beyond the puritanical beliefs so entrenched here have the same deviant label.

Your delusion in the lack of altruism within the human mind, spirit and rational thought makes your analogy so lucid. I have empathy for your lack of humanity because I unfortunately have experienced it in the past. I hope sometime in the future you can rejoin humanity. Until then enjoy your misconception as an upstanding monger.

IndyGuy123
03-09-16, 15:15
What a shock! What did you get a free ride to layoff on the board? It seems to be the MO.Apparently you are more of a fucking idiot than everyone even gave you credit for the first go round. FF did this for two reason (that he clearly stated) from the beginning. First and foremost, to advise mongers of past issues by a provider. These issues should be known by mongers so they can decide knowledgeably if they want to see this provider. He would have done this same thing (and has) with any other provider with similar known issues. Second, because there was a brotherhood issue. Unlike you, many of us know about this from the standpoint of this situation and the brotherhood belief as a whole.

As being the person he is, he was willing to look past any personal issues that may have previously occurred and to allow a fresh start. This was not necessary. He could have just left it were it was and many members of this board would have not even considered seeing her. He clearly stated updates on the two original issues and how she has already fixed the issues or is working on resolving. Apparently unlike you, some of us know of multiple situations where this man has went so far above and beyond what any of would have done in effort to help providers, mongers, or the bobby as a whole.

If you really knew Red like a select few of us do, you would know that she would not give a free ride anyways if that was tried. If that was attempted, the fire of the red gene would have came out.

Indy Guy.

P.S. - I think I know someone who will not be getting his invite to the annual provider / monger skinny-dippin party.

Anon is a dick. FF speaks the truth. That is all.
Just noticed this is post 666. Ironic considering where pretty much everyone told you to go the first go round on this.

Ilapp
03-09-16, 15:45
What a shock! What did you get a free ride to layoff on the board? It seems to be the MO.Now that would be something I would do, or have done is probably more like it. I told him he should have at least gotten that out of all this, hell I have probably told him that at least couple dozen times in situations like this over the years, but does he listen to me? No, and that is to his credit though I suppose. He can be a royal pain in many asses, and we often disagree over things to do or to be done, but he is more considerate than just about anyone I know, and his capacity for forgiveness and the granting of second, third, fourth chances and extended beyond is not within my scope of comprehension. I am a vengeful and non-forgiving prick and except for one time have / would never let myself be in a position I would care enough or put myself in a place where I was even remotely close to being taken advantage of or being in a position of weakness. So the places he goes are foreign to me and that is good for me, I am not in a position to say if that is good for him or not, but unlike myself and most everyone here he doesn't take bribes and freebies, that I know. Now, if anyone wants to bribe some one or pass out some freebies for some form of consideration please feel free to PM me at this site.

Ilapp
03-09-16, 15:48
The irony of the "character witnesses" wasn't lost. As ever member of this board would be labeled as a social deviant by society.

Altruism doesn't exist. They are just a bunch of people deluding themselves.I am truly without redeeming character as defined by myself.

IndyAnon
03-09-16, 16:15
Apparently you are more of a fucking idiot than everyone even gave you credit for the first go round.This is another one of those ironic statements. As looking at the individuals that like to throw around epithets they all have a tendency to use the same monikers over multiple websites.

Nor do they scrub the geolocation data from the pictures they put up on the web from the gps enabled smartphones. (Hint look at the exif data).

Sara8032
03-09-16, 16:25
The irony of the "character witnesses" wasn't lost. As ever member of this board would be labeled as a social deviant by society.

Altruism doesn't exist. They are just a bunch of people deluding themselves.I have seen so many on this board chime in on the altruistic character that FF possesses (including my own two-cents with) BUT YET I have failed to see any posts of other board members standing up for yours. Why is that?

FF doesn't need to accept free rides and in fact I know for a fact that he has turned down free rides. Why are you continuing such a pissing contest when it has already been abundantly clear that you're losing the battle?

Perhaps the character and kindness and concern for others that Freckle Freak has exhibited has you baffled because you've never experienced that yourself which makes you such a bitter personality. Freckle Freak is trying to help Sexy red redeem herself when he was one of them that was burnt. Perhaps you're not getting any pussy so you're trying to take it out on a very senior And special member of the board.

I find it ironic that they had just created the prickyard thread Just in time for you to come along and start stirring shit.

Smfh.

Mmgeg
03-09-16, 20:39
What a shock! What did you get a free ride to layoff on the board? It seems to be the MO.


The irony of the "character witnesses" wasn't lost. As ever member of this board would be labeled as a social deviant by society.

Altruism doesn't exist. They are just a bunch of people deluding themselves.Ok. I figured I would chime in here since this is probably the only communication you will have with a provider on this forum and will have to stick to your Massage Parlors and Backpage. Not sure what your problem is and as I recall you stated this wasn't someone 's " personal army " . Why are you making it yours? Do you even realize how ignorant you sound on here? Seriously. As a provider if I performed or acted in a negative way I would expect a negative review. "Altruism" doesn't exist? If you are going to use big boy words learn the meanings. " disinterested and selfless concern for the well being of others " . Now. Looking over your postings sir (because unlike you I do my research and want to make sure my facts are credible) and it seems like you have posted about a few cash and dashes? You posted about it so members would be aware. Same goes for this situation. If a provider puts a member in harms way regardless of what it is. Health, safety, etc. It is posted on the forum for others to be aware. So I'm sorry lets go back what doesn't exist? Also, this situation clearly there were issues. Clearly there were problems and clearly FF did not have to go over and beyond to possibly get this situation rectified. Just like when providers have issues with members and vice versa this is one person that try's to rectify the situation rather than unlike you where clearly there are some issues of your own. Like I stated in my posts in regards to this. Owning up to behavior and that's it. Since you know NOTHING about character, compassion, or respect. What FF did is the definition of character and if recieved a free ride what business of it is yours? Unless you are her personal advisor none of that is quite frankly any of your business. Obviously by now you do realize that NO reputable provider is going to want to touch your ass. So while your laying getting rubbed down at a massage parlor. Here's something to ponder on. Another defination: "social deviance".

Behavior that violates social standards, engendering anger, resentment, and a desire for punishment in a significant segment of the society or culture. You sir are the epitome of that defination also seems like possible jealousy going on but that's just my two cents.

IndyGuy123
03-09-16, 22:43
You called FF a stalker. Based on your comment below, it sounds like we know who the real stalker is. I think you need to go contact a couple BP girls to occupy your time. Obviously, you have too much of it if you are taking the time to look into the metadata of the pics that me or anyone posts on this forum. Might I suggest you contact Naveah or Nyla.


Nor do they scrub the geolocation data from the pictures they put up on the web from the gps enabled smartphones. (Hint look at the exif data).


One person with a history of stalking isn't credible.Indy Guy.

Golfer72
03-09-16, 22:47
I would like to correct my prior comment. It was woefully inadequate. Indy Anon is not a dick. He / she / it is an oozing rectal fistula on the chocolate starfish of humanity.

IndyAnon
03-09-16, 23:03
I would like to correct my prior comment. It was woefully inadequate. Indy Anon is not a dick. He / she / it is an oozing rectal fistula on the chocolate starfish of humanity.Never denied it.

Golfer72
03-10-16, 01:37
Never denied it.Not only have you not denied it, you seem to have made it your life's mission to prove it, beyond a shadow of a doubt. Brava! You have succeeded, beyond your wildest dreams.

Mmgeg
03-10-16, 02:53
Not only have you not denied it, you seem to have made it your life's mission to prove it, beyond a shadow of a doubt. Brava! You have succeeded, beyond your wildest dreams.Well glad to hear you do not deny it. Admitting is always the first step.

I think we all know what his deal is its otherwise called as " Little Man Syndrome ".

A man, small in stature, who attempts to overcome the way he believes other people perceive him (as a diminuative character) by 1) attaching himself to authority figures, 2) trying to manipulate himself into positions of control, 3) migrating toward positions of leadership, and 4) having a fairly volatile temper.

Oh BTW I just needed to clarify that using the word "sir" in my previous post obviously was a example of sarcasm.

"The use of words that mean the opposite of what you really want to say especially in order to insult someone, to show irritation. ".

I've made sure the definitions of these words were included so next time indyanon wants to use big boy words, he can use them properly so he doesn't sound like a dumbass and he can just be an ass.

XNatalieX
03-10-16, 04:41
Ok. I figured I would chime in here since this is probably the only communication you will have with a provider on this forum and will have to stick to your Massage Parlors and Backpage. Not sure what your problem is and as I recall you stated this wasn't someone 's " personal army " . Why are you making it yours? Do you even realize how ignorant you sound on here? Seriously. As a provider if I performed or acted in a negative way I would expect a negative review. "Altruism" doesn't exist? If you are going to use big boy words learn the meanings. " disinterested and selfless concern for the well being of others " . Now. Looking over your postings sir (because unlike you I do my research and want to make sure my facts are credible) and it seems like you have posted about a few cash and dashes? You posted about it so members would be aware. Same goes for this situation. If a provider puts a member in harms way regardless of what it is. Health, safety, etc. It is posted on the forum for others to be aware. So I'm sorry lets go back what doesn't exist? Also, this situation clearly there were issues. Clearly there were problems and clearly FF did not have to go over and beyond to possibly get this situation rectified. Just like when providers have issues with members and vice versa this is one person that try's to rectify the situation rather than unlike you where clearly there are some issues of your own. Like I stated in my posts in regards to this. Owning up to behavior and that's it. Since you know NOTHING about character, compassion, or respect. What FF did is the definition of character and if recieved a free ride what business of it is yours? Unless you are her personal advisor none of that is quite frankly any of your business. Obviously by now you do realize that NO reputable provider is going to want to touch your ass. So while your laying getting rubbed down at a massage parlor. Here's something to ponder on. Another defination: "social deviance".

Behavior that violates social standards, engendering anger, resentment, and a desire for punishment in a significant segment of the society or culture. You sir are the epitome of that defination also seems like possible jealousy going on but that's just my two cents.I hope he doesn't grace any provider with his presence.

Including myself.

Jjbee62
03-10-16, 09:52
I know it's a big word, but it's also a big deal. For the members here, it's a subject that regularly comes up.

When I first stumbled upon USASG, I thought FF was a pompous ass and a blowhard. He seemed like one of the know-it-all fakes, who frequently show up on discussion forums, and don't get me started on all those Freckle postscripts. Seriously, let it go.

But then I RTFF and I noticed something, people actually deferred to him, reasonable, knowledgeable and intelligent people, plus a few weirdos. I discovered there was something more than my first impression.

Accountability. Not only did FF expect it of others (just like everyone else), but he demanded it of himself. For an exhaustive proof go read the Ursula the sea witch blog. If you don't have the time, just look at the recent Sexy Red situation.

I remember when Sexy Red first appeared on the scene. I still have the pm introducing her. At the time I was baffled by the pm. I was still new and I thought unknown. My first thought was some sort of scam, but then reviews started coming in. For a while she was apparently one of the best in the area. Then apparently things changed.

When she recently returned I was unaware of the past issues, until FF posted about them. While I was surprised with the allegations, I was also impressed with the way they were presented. It was a factual, buyer beware post without an attempt to be vindictive.

What was more impressive was his arbitration efforts and retraction. He went out of the way to hold himself accountable and tried to heal the wounds. That's the opposite of a dick move.

I've never met FF. I'm a little worried my finely freckled shoulders would present roo great of a temptation. Clearly he doesn't need me to defend him. Hell, even the providers are stepping up for him. That alone should convince anyone capable of outwitting cheese, FF has been a true friend to many. I don't mean to be insulting, but there's a tendency for providers to be self-absorbed, which is understandable when you consider the occupation.

Perhaps now would be a good time to bite the bullet, Indyanon. Whatever your real issue with FF, this battle has already been lost.

DaveRue
03-10-16, 09:54
I have not yet had the pleasure to meet Sara8032 or Mmgeg (hopeful that changes very soon). I just wanted to say that it is very refreshing to hear from providers on this forum. So often we hear from hobbiest and don't get any perspective from the other side.

I know that Many people are highly regarded here. Their opinions carry a lot of weight but I do not take their word as gospel. With the advice and information gathered here I make my own choices. I should say I make my own informed choices. For that I will be forever grateful. I am hopeful to provide some information and advice in return. That is the point of this forum is it not?

Dave Rue.

"Can't we all just get along? The young ones won't understand the reference.

Ilapp
03-10-16, 10:32
Ok. I figured I would chime in here since this is probably the only communication you will have with a provider on this forum and will have to stick to your Massage Parlors and Backpage. Not sure what your problem is and as I recall you stated this wasn't someone 's " personal army " . Why are you making it yours? Do you even realize how ignorant you sound on here? Seriously. As a provider if I performed or acted in a negative way I would expect a negative review. "Altruism" doesn't exist? If you are going to use big boy words learn the meanings. " disinterested and selfless concern for the well being of others " . Now. Looking over your postings sir (because unlike you I do my research and want to make sure my facts are credible) and it seems like you have posted about a few cash and dashes? You posted about it so members would be aware. Same goes for this situation. If a provider puts a member in harms way regardless of what it is. Health, safety, etc. It is posted on the forum for others to be aware. So I'm sorry lets go back what doesn't exist? Also, this situation clearly there were issues. Clearly there were problems and clearly FF did not have to go over and beyond to possibly get this situation rectified. Just like when providers have issues with members and vice versa this is one person that try's to rectify the situation rather than unlike you where clearly there are some issues of your own. Like I stated in my posts in regards to this. Owning up to behavior and that's it. Since you know NOTHING about character, compassion, or respect. What FF did is the definition of character and if recieved a free ride what business of it is yours? Unless you are her personal advisor none of that is quite frankly any of your business. Obviously by now you do realize that NO reputable provider is going to want to touch your ass. So while your laying getting rubbed down at a massage parlor. Here's something to ponder on. Another defination: "social deviance".

Behavior that violates social standards, engendering anger, resentment, and a desire for punishment in a significant segment of the society or culture. You sir are the epitome of that defination also seems like possible jealousy going on but that's just my two cents.Really hot when you get kinda pissed.

Freckle Freak
03-10-16, 11:13
Never denied it.I reference this movie because it just hit me last night like the dialogue in the movie.

Col. Jessep: We follow orders, son. We follow orders or people die. It's that simple. Are we clear?

Kaffee: Yes sir.

Col. Jessep: Are we clear?

Kaffee: Crystal.

It became so clear, crystal clear to me that what IndyAnon enjoys the most is stirring the pot. Damn he must have watched my hornets video and said, "How many times can I stick the Camera into the nest to keep them mad as hell at me!" Well IA you achieved what you wanted, congratulations.

As A2 has said many times before, when you encounter a jerk on the board they just need to be ignored. So everyone join with me and hit the ignore button so we can get back to business.

Mmgeg
03-10-16, 11:19
Really hot when you get kinda pissed.You taught me well wise one. I personally love when my half evil side comes out.

Kyussfan
03-10-16, 11:19
Really hot when you get kinda pissed.A woman with brains makes my gentleman's sausage all plump and hot.

Freckle Freak
03-10-16, 11:46
When I first stumbled upon USASG, I thought FF was a pompous ass and a blowhard. He seemed like one of the know-it-all fakes, who frequently show up on discussion forums, and don't get me started on all those Freckle postscripts. Seriously, let it go.If it wasn't for Ilapp, TwoNutts, Powertool, Sculp, HandfulOfWheel, Hotforty, Lacy, SensorySurprise, Elle, Slutcake and many others who helped me to get my shit straight and join humanity, I would have faltered badly. Plus getting AutumnSky involved with NA and participating helped me realize everyone deserves a second chance. I also believe that 95% of people in this world actually want things to be good in their own way. It's the rhetoric behind finding common ground that obstructs an equitable resolution.

Now I am just trying to give back. And yes Ilapp those foreign places work for me. Just wish they worked for me more often than against me. But it's my choice.

IndyGuy123
03-10-16, 11:55
If it wasn't for Ilapp, TwoNutts, Powertool, Sculp, HandfulOfWheel, Hotforty, Lacy, SensorySurprise, Elle, Slutcake and many others who helped me to get my shit straight and join humanity, I would have faltered badly.The same can be said for me. It is to the credit of a few mongers on this board through their sharing of hobby knowledge, that I am were I am in the hobby. This most notably is Ilapp and yourself. Looks like a certain someone is covering multiple generations of monger education.

Indy Guy.

Ilapp
03-10-16, 12:01
Really hot when you get kinda pissed.I mispoke and stand properly corrected. I should have said are, not were. I also hear, and it is interesting timing with recent comments on this thread, that you are in truth altruistic. Perhaps charitable and giving might be better terms. You truly are only half evil. The good kind.

Mwdude
03-10-16, 12:23
Mommy, what's an "oozing rectal fistula"?

No, seriously, I'm afraid to google it.

IndyGuy123
03-10-16, 12:27
Mommy, what's an "oozing rectal fistula"?

No, seriously, I'm afraid to google it.Must admit that I already did. Just don't look at the Images tab.

IG.

Ilapp
03-10-16, 15:33
You taught me well wise one. I personally love when my half evil side comes out.Yeah, and not everyone appreciates my snarkiness. It would seems it may have worn out its welcome where it most wanted to be just recently. LOL. Just when you think, nevermind, it is that thinking thing that always gets me in trouble.

Ilapp
03-10-16, 15:36
Mommy, what's an "oozing rectal fistula"?

No, seriously, I'm afraid to google it.You can find it in the abbreviations tab, has to be some social deviant here who likes doing it or eating it or fucking it or something.

Mmgeg
03-10-16, 15:58
Yeah, and not everyone appreciates my snarkiness. It would seems it may have worn out its welcome where it most wanted to be just recently. LOL. Just when you think, nevermind, it is that thinking thing that always gets me in trouble.Snarkiness is always a good thing. Getting into "trouble" is not always a bad thing either. AKA 333.

IndyGuy123
03-10-16, 16:07
You can find it in the abbreviations tab, has to be some social deviant here who likes doing it or eating it or fucking it or something.After googling the term, I can definitely say that if anyone likes doing any of the above, I am truly afraid to get anywhere near a lady that they even might have touched.

If you or FF say that you like it, I am screwed. That will take out half the ladies in the Circle City.

Indy Guy.

BobUp
03-10-16, 18:57
After googling the term, I can definitely say that if anyone likes doing any of the above, I am truly afraid to get anywhere near a lady that they even might have touched.

If you or FF say that you like it, I am screwed. That will take out half the ladies in the Circle City.

Indy Guy.And you thought we needed a forum like Indy's "Prickyard" in SB? You're all some sick SOB's.

"oozing rectal fistula" Oh yeah I Goggle it too.

Tomorrow when you extend your hand to me I want you to think of this

IndyGuy123
03-10-16, 19:09
And you thought we needed a forum like Indy's "Prickyard" in SB? You're all some sick SOB's.

"oozing rectal fistula" Oh yeah I Goggle it too.

Tomorrow when you extend your hand to me I want you to think of thisAnd that is why I won't extend my hand to you. Wouldn't matter, will be too busy with tatas in the face.

Travelling Indy Guy.

BobUp
03-10-16, 19:39
And that is why I won't extend my hand to you. Wouldn't matter, will be too busy with tatas in the face.

Travelling Indy Guy.That's my goal as well but my ATF is a little light on the TaTas but makes up for it on the back end.

Bring that headlamp you guys were talking about a year ago the first one to find some freckles is buying beer.

IndyGuy123
03-10-16, 20:19
That's my goal as well but my ATF is a little light on the TaTas but makes up for it on the back end.

Bring that headlamp you guys were talking about a year ago the first one to find some freckles is buying beer.No the first one to find the freckles (or a redhead) gets the beer bought for him. I will bring mine. I made a clone off of plans I made one day while FF was fixated on a freckled stripper.

Indy Guy.

XNatalieX
03-10-16, 20:32
No the first one to find the freckles (or a redhead) gets the beer bought for him. I will bring mine. I made a clone off of plans I made one day while FF was fixated on a freckled stripper.

Indy Guy.I'll be the one taking the freckled Redheaded stripper home with me. You guys are shit out of luck.

Two Nutts
03-10-16, 21:15
You probably got some type of service for you humanitarian efforts. I would have paid for the tow truck and probably given her some money to get the car fixed and hoped Karma would be favorable to me in the future. This is one of the reasons I no longer believe in Karma! By the way thanks for sending me the picture of your reward.I knew those cameras in the school bus would eventually be my downfall.

Hotforty
03-10-16, 21:58
Yes, half evil.


AKA 333.

FarEastMan
03-11-16, 00:38
So, I realize the far east side of indianapolis is pretty shitty. It's like the west side, but twenty years ago.

I realize it's dangerous.

I don't want to pick up a street walker, I don't want to drive to near the airport, and I don't want to go to Castleton. And I sure as shit don't want to rent a two hundred dollar a night hotel room and then spend another three for a classy lady. I also will not just invite someone who likely has an addiction to my home. Anyone have any good leads on some safe east side incalls, that aren't BBW or obvious addicts? Or won't have their thug boyfriend waiting to hit me over the head? I don't care about weight or skin, just about class. No. That's not right. I do care about weight. I don't want a BBW with gang tatts sprinkled about her neck, face, arms, and legs. Fuck the east side man.

The east side is this: Obese, Has Pimp, Will Rob; Skinny, Has Pimp, Will Rob, Obese or Skinny, has Addiction, Will Rob, Any Body Type Will Rob and Give You Aids, or Is Cop. You want West or North, well, then, you have to give a woman who will have sex for money your work email so that she can get you fired and arrested if she goes down.

Mmgeg
03-11-16, 01:05
I'll be the one taking the freckled Redheaded stripper home with me. You guys are shit out of luck.Hell I may have to take you home. LOL. Hotforty. YES half evil and love the pic but she needed cleavage. Ha ha.

FarEastMan
03-11-16, 01:05
If you were born with a penis, and have a penis, you're a man. It's okay if you feel like you are a woman, but, if you have male reproductive organs, and are genetically male, then you are not a woman, not a trans woman, but are actually a man. I mean, I like to think that I've gone to the level of alcoholism where if you had a surgically implanted vagina (read: had your penis cut in half the long-way, then inverted, and pushed inside of you after having the rest of your male reproductive organs scooped out) I'd still bang you if you were hot enough. I mean, I'd feel a little like one of those bulls they bring up to the fake-cow torso for semen culture acquisition, but I'd still pop one or two into your inverted penis. Depends on how nice of a person you are I guess.

But yeah. If you were born with a penis, and have a penis; you're a guy wearing a dress.

Yes it is, it's not incorrect, but it is politically incorrect.

A2

Freckle Freak
03-11-16, 07:34
And you thought we needed a forum like Indy's "Prickyard" in SB? You're all some sick SOB's.

"oozing rectal fistula" Oh yeah I Goggle it too.

Tomorrow when you extend your hand to me I want you to think of thisYou are a ND fan, you bleed green!

IndyGuy123
03-11-16, 09:41
I'll be the one taking the freckled Redheaded stripper home with me. You guys are shit out of luck.That's just fine. I like to watch. I will make sure you get a couple cocktails in you. Combine that with your freaky side and I feel confident that the door to the duo will be opened for me. Don't you want to share those fetishes of yours with a third?


Hell I may have to take you home.Your current color may not be red but I think we can make exception in your case. You two would play very well together.
Indy Guy.

Hotforty
03-11-16, 10:00
Yes, you're correct, Mmgeg.

So are you offering to model so that a better photo can be made?

If you do the struttin', I'll do the shootin' and we can post the results for all to see.


Hotforty. YES half evil and love the pic but she needed cleavage. Ha ha.

MoonTooth
03-11-16, 10:28
If you were born with a penis, and have a penis, you're a man. It's okay if you feel like you are a woman, but, if you have male reproductive organs, and are genetically male, then you are not a woman, not a trans woman, but are actually a man. I mean, I like to think that I've gone to the level of alcoholism where if you had a surgically implanted vagina (read: had your penis cut in half the long-way, then inverted, and pushed inside of you after having the rest of your male reproductive organs scooped out) I'd still bang you if you were hot enough. I mean, I'd feel a little like one of those bulls they bring up to the fake-cow torso for semen culture acquisition, but I'd still pop one or two into your inverted penis. Depends on how nice of a person you are I guess.

But yeah. If you were born with a penis, and have a penis; you're a guy wearing a dress.

Yes it is, it's not incorrect, but it is politically incorrect.

A2The most powerful item in the universe is the human brain. It cannot be adequately replicated or imitated. It has fueled the progress of society since evolution or Godly creation, whichever you choose to believe. To limit its power by a legal definition of gender is undermining its tremendous capabilities. Whatever your views on the subject of gender identity may be, it is unarguable that not everyone was born with the same rigid constructs in place that others may have been. Everyone has the opportunity to chart their own course, and live the way in which their brain dictated, which is the ultimate definition of freedom.

Best,

MT.

HunterGatherer
03-11-16, 10:58
Mommy, what's an "oozing rectal fistula"?

No, seriously, I'm afraid to google it.I'll give you a hint. "Fistula" means "hole" for the most part. I think "rectal" is self-explanatory.

Freckle Freak
03-11-16, 11:16
Yes, you're correct, Mmgeg.

So are you offering to model so that a better photo can be made?

If you do the struttin', I'll do the shootin' and we can post the results for all to see.She may strut, you may shoot but the digital prints will never be available for anyone to see. Don't you read the board my friend? She is very private and the only pics you're allowed to take with you are the episodic memories stored in the medial temporal lobe.

Mmgeg
03-11-16, 11:27
She may strut, you may shoot but the digital prints will never be available for anyone to see. Don't you read the board my friend? She is very private and the only pics you're allowed to take with you are the episodic memories stored in the medial temporal lobe.Ask Ilapp. LOL.

XNatalieX
03-11-16, 12:18
Hell I may have to take you home. LOL. Hotforty. YES half evil and love the pic but she needed cleavage. Ha ha.I willingly volunteer to have you take me home. I'm sure there's a boat load of mongers wanting a ticket to that show.

Hotforty
03-11-16, 14:36
Well, kudos to self for getting a reaction, albeit not as intended.

I do read the board, but I've never known you to wax as elegantly loquacious with such verbosity and many syllables in so small a space. I needs make obeisance to the power of thy fingers tickling the keyboard.


She may strut, you may shoot but the digital prints will never be available for anyone to see. Don't you read the board my friend? She is very private and the only pics you're allowed to take with you are the episodic memories stored in the medial temporal lobe.Let's face it, we all know I'd slobber on the viewfinder, drop the camera and faint away to a place of heretofore unknown bliss and there would be no digital evidence (save for my digits wrapped around pleasing myself) of such an encounter.

IndyGuy123
03-11-16, 15:53
I would love to know how many hits dictionary.com has received from members of this site this week.

Indy Guy.

Jcat69
03-11-16, 18:24
So, I realize the far east side of indianapolis is pretty shitty. It's like the west side, but twenty years ago.

I realize it's dangerous.

I don't want to pick up a street walker, I don't want to drive to near the airport, and I don't want to go to Castleton. And I sure as shit don't want to rent a two hundred dollar a night hotel room and then spend another three for a classy lady. I also will not just invite someone who likely has an addiction to my home. Anyone have any good leads on some safe east side incalls, that aren't BBW or obvious addicts? Or won't have their thug boyfriend waiting to hit me over the head? I don't care about weight or skin, just about class. No. That's not right. I do care about weight. I don't want a BBW with gang tatts sprinkled about her neck, face, arms, and legs. Fuck the east side man.

The east side is this: Obese, Has Pimp, Will Rob; Skinny, Has Pimp, Will Rob, Obese or Skinny, has Addiction, Will Rob, Any Body Type Will Rob and Give You Aids, or Is Cop. You want West or North, well, then, you have to give a woman who will have sex for money your work email so that she can get you fired and arrested if she goes down.One of the best providers in the city is on the east side at pretty decent incall in a quiet neighborhood.

The black spinner Bre.

Mmgeg
03-11-16, 18:58
I would love to know how many hits dictionary.com has received from members of this site this week.

Indy Guy.LOL. That's why I made sure I included definitions so members didn't have to get on dictionary.com LOL. Always a pleaser XNatalieX. Anytime. My half evil side is always game.

Freckle Freak
03-12-16, 08:10
I would love to know how many hits dictionary.com has received from members of this site this week.

Indy Guy.Bein ah rednek suthernr lik myself, Ah dunt uze a dicktonary vury oftin.

Freckle Freak
03-12-16, 08:13
One of the best providers in the city is on the east side at pretty decent incall in a quiet neighborhood.

The black spinner Bre.I'm impressed. For the life of me I couldn't figure out what he was saying or what he wanted. You have my respect for reading between the lines a lot better than I can.

Freckle Freak
03-12-16, 08:21
Ask Ilapp. LOL.Explained that to me yesterday, but he wasn't willing to share. Damn him, he knows I like to watch even if it's digital!

Member #5458
03-12-16, 08:56
So, I realize the far east side of indianapolis is pretty shitty. It's like the west side, but twenty years ago.

I realize it's dangerous.

I don't want to pick up a street walker, I don't want to drive to near the airport, and I don't want to go to Castleton. And I sure as shit don't want to rent a two hundred dollar a night hotel room and then spend another three for a classy lady. I also will not just invite someone who likely has an addiction to my home. Anyone have any good leads on some safe east side incalls, that aren't BBW or obvious addicts? Or won't have their thug boyfriend waiting to hit me over the head? I don't care about weight or skin, just about class. No. That's not right. I do care about weight. I don't want a BBW with gang tatts sprinkled about her neck, face, arms, and legs. Fuck the east side man.

The east side is this: Obese, Has Pimp, Will Rob; Skinny, Has Pimp, Will Rob, Obese or Skinny, has Addiction, Will Rob, Any Body Type Will Rob and Give You Aids, or Is Cop. You want West or North, well, then, you have to give a woman who will have sex for money your work email so that she can get you fired and arrested if she goes down.Chanel is on the east side She is every fun to spend an afternoon with.

Noobie67
03-12-16, 09:24
I willingly volunteer to have you take me home. I'm sure there's a boat load of mongers wanting a ticket to that show.I'll drive! But I have to wait inside. I don't like sitting the car. And Indyguy has to stay at home. But if he is nice I'll call and give the play by play.

The Noob.

Hotforty
03-12-16, 10:06
Dick-shun-airy.

Hmm maybe I can figure this out.

Dick = the part of my package that gets hard.

Shun = people ignoring other people.

Airy = letting the air dry the sticky stuff.

Yeah, I think I get it!


Bein ah rednek suthernr lik myself, Ah dunt uze a dicktonary vury oftin.

Ilapp
03-12-16, 12:50
Ask Ilapp. LOL.Serious I won't. And there was not a Go Pro involved, or was there? Been so long I forget.

Ilapp
03-12-16, 12:57
Explained that to me yesterday, but he wasn't willing to share. Damn him, he knows I like to watch even if it's digital!That seems like it was so long ago it may have been film and not digital. Not that you would be interested in photographic negatives where there are all these mottled areas. I am not sure what that is. Oh wait, I bet that's what thousands of freckles look like in negative. Mmmmm, interesting. We did though photoshop one pic we were going to send you. It was a closeup of a highly freckled area and around it we drew a large red circle around it with a diagonal slash through it then superimposed the letters FF in red over the said region. Fun, but that was seriously damn near more than half evil.

BigMack
03-12-16, 13:02
Lose lips can be good on the hips but not in stories Got to love ladies who know how to keep their secrets as to what takes place behind closed doors. If walls, pillows and beds could only talk LOL.

Mmgeg
03-12-16, 13:31
That seems like it was so long ago it may have been film and not digital. Not that you would be interested in photographic negatives where there are all these mottled areas. I am not sure what that is. Oh wait, I bet that's what thousands of freckles look like in negative. Mmmmm, interesting. We did though photoshop one pic we were going to send you. It was a closeup of a highly freckled area and around it we drew a large red circle around it with a diagonal slash through it then superimposed the letters FF in red over the said region. Fun, but that was seriously damn near more than half evil.I didn't think it was a red circle. Thought it was a different color LOL. Might have to revisit those pictures again.

Admin2
03-12-16, 17:01
I willingly volunteer to have you take me home. I'm sure there's a boat load of mongers wanting a ticket to that show.Pay per view!

IndyGuy123
03-12-16, 17:25
Pay per view!I am going to be the booker and promoter of this event. I already got one half of the talent signed on. The other one can't be far behind.

Hey Nat, I think I know the perfect timing for the behind closed doors, undress rehersals. Just keep in mind that even quality performers may need a number of takes to get there performance perfected.

Indy Guy.

Kyussfan
03-12-16, 17:48
Pay per view!Beavis, this is the greatest day of our lives!! I think I just inoculated. Huh huh huh huh!

XNatalieX
03-14-16, 04:16
I'll drive! But I have to wait inside. I don't like sitting the car. And Indyguy has to stay at home. But if he is nice I'll call and give the play by play.

The Noob.I'm blown away how IndyGuy missed this one. You're slacking husband. I mean IndyGuy!

IndyGuy123
03-14-16, 13:58
I'm blown away how IndyGuy missed this one. You're slacking husband. I mean IndyGuy!Who said I missed it? Just knew that the ride would not be necessary with advance notice of the touring schedule. Glad we were able to record scene 1. The remai nig scenes with the 3rd party will be set for PPV upon return.

Indy Guy.

Kyussfan
03-14-16, 18:09
I'm blown away how IndyGuy missed this one. You're slacking husband. I mean IndyGuy!I'm blown away that Natalie and IndyGuy haven't posted any wedding pictures yet. Especially the really juicy ones!! LOL You guys can PM them to me if you're both shy.

Jjbee62
03-14-16, 19:40
I have been to many of are fun spots here in town and near by but I think I have really hit the gold mine with this great find. Most of us know the main road in Indy to find a little late night fun for the right price wink wink. Well last night I took a little bit longer a drive down close to where the monkey sells pizza and I could not believe my eyes a Asian doll walking. I made a few laps around to look the area over when it all looked clear I pulled up and asked her if she needed a ride she said yes and got in. She's a 7 on a 10 scale and knew how to please we talked for a few seconds and she told me what was on the menu. I picked her 50 deal and boys let me tell you it was so worth it she took care of me very well. We cleaned up and I asked her if she's was going to be around on the reg and she said most def. Looks like we might have some thing new here guys. This was after 12 am. Good hunting all.Here's a little helpful hint for you:

If you obtain the services of a streetwalker, the proper section to post a review in is "Streetwalker Reports. " I realize it's somewhat obscure, but the thread is called "Streetwalker Reports" because, stick with me, this is the tricky part, because it's where people post reports about streetwalkers.

Granted, you did post a report in the "Streetwalker Reports" thread, but you also posted the same report in the "Massage Parlor Reports" and "Backpage Advertiser Reviews" threads. You didn't mention that she was walking down the street with a massage table strapped to her back, or that you found her through a backpage ad.

"Hi I'm Angel, you can find me on my favorite corner on E. Washington. I'm easy to spot because I have a massage table strapped to my back. No table shower, but there's a car wash down the street. ".

How about putting the reviews only in the proper section?

IndyGuy123
03-14-16, 19:51
Here's a little helpful hint for you:

If you obtain the services of a streetwalker, the proper section to post a review in is "Streetwalker Reports. " I realize it's somewhat obscure, but the thread is called "Streetwalker Reports" because, stick with me, this is the tricky part, because it's where people post reports about streetwalkers.

Granted, you did post a report in the "Streetwalker Reports" thread, but you also posted the same report in the "Massage Parlor Reports" and "Backpage Advertiser Reviews" threads. You didn't mention that she was walking down the street with a massage table strapped to her back, or that you found her through a backpage ad.

"Hi I'm Angel, you can find me on my favorite corner on E. Washington. I'm easy to spot because I have a massage table strapped to my back. No table shower, but there's a car wash down the street. ".

How about putting the reviews only in the proper section?And we don't need to hear the same thing repeatedly. 5 posts since yesterday and it appears they are all about the same person or visit.

Indy Guy.

MrTobuku
03-14-16, 20:11
I do apologize I will keep my post in the right area and sorry just trying to help spread the word since there's not much of this real deal out there. But once again I do apologize.

Jjbee62
03-15-16, 00:03
And we don't need to hear the same thing repeatedly. 5 posts since yesterday and it appears they are all about the same person or visit.

Indy Guy.If I was the paranoid type, I would almost suspect picking up the oft mentioned Angel might result in an unscheduled family reunion.

Jcat69
03-15-16, 10:27
I'm impressed. For the life of me I couldn't figure out what he was saying or what he wanted. You have my respect for reading between the lines a lot better than I can.I just eastside represent, 'nomsayin. And couldn't be having a busta throw salt on my hood, nomsayin'. Had to get real on the down low info cause pimpin' aint eazy playa!. Nomsayin'.

Okay, I don't know what I just said there. I'm actually a dorky white boy from Greenwood but was still able to interpret and respond to his post. Nomsayin'.

GadgetIT
03-15-16, 12:30
Vegas is MUCH less risky than Indy. I play there all the time and if you do enough research you can find a beautiful girl for a decent rate. The asian girls from hobby shop are my favorites!I am sure the Vegas mongers will appreciate the use of your post as defense when getting booked. Anyway, we are talking perceptions here; and its all opinions. BTW while I don't plan on playing; I do plan on having fun on my stay.

Choices,

-G.

BrownyGuy
03-15-16, 12:54
I just eastside represent, 'nomsayin. And couldn't be having a busta throw salt on my hood, nomsayin'. Had to get real on the down low info cause pimpin' aint eazy playa!. Nomsayin'.LOL. I am laughing so loud reading this my dog is thinking I am high!

Ilapp
03-15-16, 14:29
I am sure the Vegas mongers will appreciate the use of your post as defense when getting booked. Anyway, we are talking perceptions here; and its all opinions. BTW while I don't plan on playing; I do plan on having fun on my stay.

Choices,

-G.Actually really good options at reasonable prices. Casino girls can be good, LOL, just ask a buddy of mine here, good Asian choices, my last trip buddy hooked me up with smoking hot and I hear from couple guys unbelievable fun girl from SA, though at that point in time I passed due to personal reasons, looks like next trip I probably won't pass though. You will find guys on forum out there really helpful too, they have been big help to me there in the past.

Jcat69
03-15-16, 21:36
I am sure the Vegas mongers will appreciate the use of your post as defense when getting booked. Anyway, we are talking perceptions here; and its all opinions. BTW while I don't plan on playing; I do plan on having fun on my stay.

Choices,

-G.My point was you were posting in Indy that you won't play in Vegas because of "too many stings and too risky". That's like eating at McDonald's and saying I won't eat at Burger King because it's too unhealthy. Indy has stings and busts all the time. I feel Vegas is less risky than Indy. Of course it's just an opinion but my opinion isn't off the cuff, it's based on plenty of experience.

GadgetIT
03-16-16, 01:33
My point was you were posting in Indy that you won't play in Vegas because of "too many stings and too risky". That's like eating at McDonald's and saying I won't eat at Burger King because it's too unhealthy. Indy has stings and busts all the time. I feel Vegas is less risky than Indy. Of course it's just an opinion but my opinion isn't off the cuff, it's based on plenty of experience.To compare the level of LE activity between Indy & Vegas is just silly. I never said you can't find safe options at Vegas or any other city for that matter. In fact I treat Vegas like any other city cross country with active vice. I just won't risk it.

-G.

Jjbee62
03-16-16, 22:33
A guy with 3 posts, Mr TooBooKoo, pm'd me today saying I'm an a $$hole for not placing blind faith in his info. It was the best laugh I had all day!He would have had 6 posts but 3 of them got deleted. I guess I can understand his confusion. First he posted about his incredible SW in SW, MP and BP threads, then he posted about her again in SW, then posted a link to her BP ad which says she does body rubs. So apparently he's found a SW who advertises on BP to do massages.

It would really suck to set up an appointment with her just to find out someone picked her up when you were a block away. I guess it would also suck to stop at the corner and be told you have to make an appointment.

Mmgeg
03-16-16, 22:53
He would have had 6 posts but 3 of them got deleted. I guess I can understand his confusion. First he posted about his incredible SW in SW, MP and BP threads, then he posted about her again in SW, then posted a link to her BP ad which says she does body rubs. So apparently he's found a SW who advertises on BP to do massages.

It would really suck to set up an appointment with her just to find out someone picked her up when you were a block away. I guess it would also suck to stop at the corner and be told you have to make an appointment.She is the one that I sold my old massage table to. He didn't mention it in his postings that she had the table with her on the corner but hey in this forum nothing surprises me. However, she didn't look "street walker ish " LOL.

Jjbee62
03-17-16, 02:45
She is the one that I sold my old massage table to. He didn't mention it in his postings that she had the table with her on the corner but hey in this forum nothing surprises me. However, she didn't look "street walker ish " LOL.Hard to walk very far while she's dragging that table around.

Freckle Freak
03-17-16, 08:36
She is the one that I sold my old massage table to. He didn't mention it in his postings that she had the table with her on the corner but hey in this forum nothing surprises me. However, she didn't look "street walker ish " LOL.She was working as a SW to save up $. Once she made enough to pay you for the table then her location and rates changed. However now she needs a new pair of shoes! By the way I hear your old tables are very experienced or is that expensive?

Mwdude
03-17-16, 08:58
She was working as a SW to save up $. Once she made enough to pay you for the table then her location and rates changed. However now she needs a new pair of shoes! By the way I hear your old tables are very experienced or is that expensive?Maybe Mmgeg should have sold her some of her shoes instead. I hear she's a hoarder.