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RusselJimmies
10-18-21, 00:02
Don't be weird, don't have any weird kink fetishes and just play the numbers. I wasnt seeking these freebys, but since I wasnt old at the time and not completely weird it was a natural type of thing. You need to be attractive obviously.Do you not agree on a per meet before meeting them though?
TimeForPlay10
10-18-21, 10:20
Everything cover is a pro, who cares, you can find cheaper with agencies girls, is worthless information dude.First, Pal, I appreciate your posts and information. Thank you for your contributions to this forum.
I disagree that everything covered automatically means they are pro. That's too much of a generalization. There are girls who are actually concerned with STD's and / or pregnancy. In my experience, I don't require or push that, but I've found that if you become regular fuck friends, they tend to allow bareback then.
In my view, a semi pro is someone who sees multiple SD's; is fine with ppm AND has a primary job. They may see a few guys a week but they also have a regular job as their main source of income. A pro is a pro.
I'm taking a break from SA going on 2 months now. Got tired of the BS, flakes, ghosters, and scammers. I'm increasingly getting really tired with the really young flakes as well. My preferred age range is usually 21-30 but even in that range I've gotten tired with the flakes. I met one SB off SA who is in her early 30's and am fucking regularly for free now. 9 body, 7 face. Loves sex and the company. Just s normal 30 something horny woman. I'm seeing another one I met randomly in the wild, late 30's, 8 body, 8 face. Kinky as fuck. Going to ride this wave for as long as I can.
By the way, I saw the girl in the link a few years ago. Hosted in the west burbs at the time, asks 400 but ageed to 350; slim but not toned body (a bit saggy), I would guess mid 30's is her real age. 2 rounds covered, decent time and a nice girl but didn't repeat.
Woodson2019
10-18-21, 10:33
Watchout, she is back. Escort thread she went under Kris or Kris K.
https://members.seeking.com/member/404889d0-7198-4999-a4c0-3329f34ab936
Agoraphobe
10-18-21, 11:50
Watchout, she is back. Escort thread she went under Kris or Kris K.
https://members.seeking.com/member/404889d0-7198-4999-a4c0-3329f34ab936To anyone who isn't in the know, this woman is homeless and severely mentally ill.
Stay. Far. Away.
Everything cover is a pro, who cares, you can find cheaper with agencies girls, is worthless information dude.At least I gave pertinent information, unlike your reports which are truly worthless information.
And since you complain so much that no one likes old asian guy, maybe the escort route would yield better results for you.
Instead how about truly trying to help others out?
Everyone on here, who uses SA and ends up talking to someone, how about giving actual information?
If you have a girl that you are not going to vibe with how about getting money requests, rules, etc. And then sharing here for those who maybe interested in them? It doesn't hurt you and may give someone else a shot at her. Plus you are putting some good karma out there.
Copying a link and saying how you they do nothing for you, yet maybe for others, is useless.
It is like saying that you don't like a particular restaurant beacuse it's not for you without any context.
At least I gave pertinent information, unlike your reports which are truly worthless information.
And since you complain so much that no one likes old asian guy, maybe the escort route would yield better results for you.
Instead how about truly trying to help others out?
Everyone on here, who uses SA and ends up talking to someone, how about giving actual information?
If you have a girl that you are not going to vibe with how about getting money requests, rules, etc. And then sharing here for those who maybe interested in them? It doesn't hurt you and may give someone else a shot at her. Plus you are putting some good karma out there.
Copying a link and saying how you they do nothing for you, yet maybe for others, is useless.
It is like saying that you don't like a particular restaurant beacuse it's not for you without any context.I don't have to give out any informations at all, I share it because some may find it usefull or other may not, it not my job to do anything or I care if it usefull or not, what actually usefull informations had you give out, do you give out your inbox that's actually usefull, the information you give out was the 29 sa that probably a pro, why would I care, I need usefull to me.
Also if it not useful to you then just don't read it, just ignore it and I really don't care if you think is usefull or not.
HitMan1783
10-18-21, 13:48
At least I gave pertinent information, unlike your reports which are truly worthless information.
And since you complain so much that no one likes old asian guy, maybe the escort route would yield better results for you.
Instead how about truly trying to help others out?
Everyone on here, who uses SA and ends up talking to someone, how about giving actual information?
If you have a girl that you are not going to vibe with how about getting money requests, rules, etc. And then sharing here for those who maybe interested in them? It doesn't hurt you and may give someone else a shot at her. Plus you are putting some good karma out there.
Copying a link and saying how you they do nothing for you, yet maybe for others, is useless.
It is like saying that you don't like a particular restaurant beacuse it's not for you without any context.I'm just here for the comments! Lmfao!!
Woodson2019
10-18-21, 14:03
Posts.
XgmMe1423 = 64.
Pal5600 = 521.
Don't know why anyone is criticizing Pal5600. He is a good read.
I don't have to give out any informations at all, I share it because some may find it usefull or other may not, it not my job to do anything or I care if it usefull or not, what actually usefull informations had you give out, do you give out your inbox that's actually usefull, the information you give out was the 29 sa that probably a pro, why would I care, I need usefull to me.
Also if it not useful to you then just don't read it, just ignore it and I really don't care if you think is usefull or not.
Limeyincal
10-18-21, 14:11
To anyone who isn't in the know, this woman is homeless and severely mentally ill.
Stay. Far. Away.I saw the original message about this chick and clicked on the link to view the profile.
Clicked back here saw your message and the warning clicked back on the profile and went to block her.
But in those few seconds between viewing her profile twice, she messaged me with her number and asking if I wanted to meet today!
Phew she is now blocked.
Again thanks for the heads up.
Limeyincal
10-18-21, 14:15
Hailybaby - https://members.seeking.com/member/daae184b-ea25-4d46-9abd-10de8207c580.
Wants money for pictures and and an advance to visit?
Says she was scammed before?
Really, more likely she scammed someone else!
Blocked.
Do you not agree on a per meet before meeting them though?Most of the time, sometimes the girls are new and just want to meet someone to drinks. I don't go into any of these expecting to get a freeby, it just happens if you do it enough.
ive had my $$ turned down too even after the deed was done lol
To anyone who isn't in the know, this woman is homeless and severely mentally ill.
Stay. Far. Away.Oh gawd! Crazy is an understatement.
STAY THE FUCK AWAY!
RusselJimmies
10-18-21, 15:54
Posts.
XgmMe1423 = 64.
Pal5600 = 521.
Don't know why anyone is criticizing Pal5600. He is a good read.Agreed, I've always found him to be one of the best reporters here. Yes he leans more towards quantity over quality of reports, but you can still glean a lot of useful intel from them, as I have. Keep it up, pal.
First, Pal, I appreciate your posts and information. Thank you for your contributions to this forum.
I disagree that everything covered automatically means they are pro. That's too much of a generalization. There are girls who are actually concerned with STD's and / or pregnancy. In my experience, I don't require or push that, but I've found that if you become regular fuck friends, they tend to allow bareback then.
In my view, a semi pro is someone who sees multiple SD's; is fine with ppm AND has a primary job. They may see a few guys a week but they also have a regular job as their main source of income. A pro is a pro.
I'm taking a break from SA going on 2 months now. Got tired of the BS, flakes, ghosters, and scammers. I'm increasingly getting really tired with the really young flakes as well. My preferred age range is usually 21-30 but even in that range I've gotten tired with the flakes. I met one SB off SA who is in her early 30's and am fucking regularly for free now. 9 body, 7 face. Loves sex and the company. Just s normal 30 something horny woman. I'm seeing another one I met randomly in the wild, late 30's, 8 body, 8 face. Kinky as fuck. Going to ride this wave for as long as I can.
By the way, I saw the girl in the link a few years ago. Hosted in the west burbs at the time, asks 400 but ageed to 350; slim but not toned body (a bit saggy), I would guess mid 30's is her real age. 2 rounds covered, decent time and a nice girl but didn't repeat.https://members.seeking.com/member/ca839f6a-5b9f-4157-b4dd-3614f69f8e5b
This one is interested on sa she is 25 and on secret benefits she is 23, but in real life she look 27 to me, on sa she's 5'7" and in real life she like 5'5", go figure. She is amateur but with condom only, she have a bf at home and she's very cautious, totally understand, out of 10 amateur 1-2 will request condom but most don't.
And the other hand.
https://members.seeking.com/member/91dac19d-2e52-460c-a51f-a1df72e0ecb4
This one seems like a pro, but she will fuck bareback.
So you are right, is not 100% but pro usually request or carry condom with them in their purse, and amateur girls usually don't carry them.
And there are risk with STD fucking bareback but sometime the idea of fucking a amateur coed bareback outweight that risks, bascially your little head doing the all the thinking hahahaha.
Posts.
XgmMe1423 = 64.
Pal5600 = 521.
Don't know why anyone is criticizing Pal5600. He is a good read.Yeah, easy to rack up those numbers when it's all gibberish.
P.S. Check XGme1423 & my old account xg1423.
OnlyDreams
10-18-21, 23:06
Yeah, easy to rack up those numbers when it's all gibberish.
P.S. Check XGme1423 & my old account xg1423.Pal5600 has contributed a lot and I have used his valuable reviews as reference points. If you want a guy to provide even the sugar babies phones numbers, your best choice is to try escorts. They provide that info in their ads. Do you know how hard it is nowadays to get a phone number from somebody who's real and not a scammer on that site, besides the membership you have to pay?? I'm not talking about you but some guys don't want to pay a membership and don't want to put any effort, they just want everything ready for them in a nutshell including phone numbers! Are you guys serious?
These are a few girls I have seen or interacted with.
Good Luck.
https://members.seeking.com/member/404889d0-7198-4999-a4c0-3329f34ab936
She has been spoken about. Hardcore headcase but I was bored and with the info from this group, I met up with her. I say this not to be funny, if you don't have a few things going for you, don't interact with her. She is crazy. I normally meet up with girls around the area of my house. Not this time. She said she was not homeless but she was sitting outside on the street for a while before I made it clear I was at the bar we agreed to meet at. Off the Chicago Ave blue line. Added party favors and gave her $2 for some fun in the back of the subway. Not recommended.
https://members.seeking.com/member/f9cfaa97-e062-438d-bc5f-6267195bf4a9
Our convo was great but then find out she is not in even in the city. Ill try with her when she comes here but I hate girls that say they are in chicago and are nowhere near the area.
https://members.seeking.com/member/bd15d841-13ea-4424-afd8-5688659644fd
She was hard to get a hold of but for sure a pro. Her wig was horrible. She is mentally off as well but a little more focused on getting paid. She is fairly cheap. Down for letting me record, which was fun.
https://members.seeking.com/member/82e62f25-6971-4bdb-974f-1b6d3f8518c0
She was slow to respond but quick to meet up. Way hotter than her pic shows. She likes to drink. Her place is decent. I would repeat. $3.
Scam.
She is looking for 300 then asked for gas money.
https://members.seeking.com/member/982769ba-3400-467f-bcfc-b9074ecc17ff
HarryMcHardon
10-19-21, 20:16
Yes, I've had lots of girls tell me that they are bombarded with messages from indian / asian guys.
Being a white dude who lives in his parents basement and has an okay paying job is a blessing. I've def had some really hot experiences with some badass chicks.
What you said about the average young white professional being more or less broke is true as well. Especially if you live in a HCoL area like chicago or the tri-state. I work with alot of these guys, they have 6 figure jobs and are drowning in credit card debt and student loan debt. They are setting themselves up for a painful future as most corporate types get managed out of their careers by the time they hit 50 unless they move into upper management.
What a fucking degenerate society we live in.I agree with this, but after reading these comments, all the talk about younger guys living in their parents' basement yet spending their discretionary $$ freely buying into the bangfest on SA, I feel much less sorry for them now, when I read the news headlines about how young people can't afford homes these days. LOL. Can't afford a home? Ya think! Here's an OK Boomer secret – SAVE your discretionary income, bang free fat girls, DON'T blow it on hot SB's! LOL.
Also, about the recent influx of younger guys on SA – I wonder how much of this is due to all the stupid money being made trading on Robinhood and meme stocks. Also the Bitcoin bubble. All this is stupid money which will vaporize when there's an inevitable crash in these markets. It's when and not if. Enjoy it while you can guys! So maybe us older farts should hope for an economic crash to flush these young hot shots back to their gig job income where they would likely be otherwise? And out of SA? Hahaha.
The other thing is, college athletes can now make money off their names via advertisements, endorsements, etc. Etc. Maybe more stupid money potentially chasing girls on SA, especially in big time college towns? Just something to think about.
I agree with this, but after reading these comments, all the talk about younger guys living in their parents' basement yet spending their discretionary $$ freely buying into the bangfest on SA, I feel much less sorry for them now, when I read the news headlines about how young people can't afford homes these days. LOL. Can't afford a home? Ya think! Here's an OK Boomer secret SAVE your discretionary income, bang free fat girls, DON'T blow it on hot SB's! LOL.
Also, about the recent influx of younger guys on SA I wonder how much of this is due to all the stupid money being made trading on Robinhood and meme stocks. Also the Bitcoin bubble. All this is stupid money which will vaporize when there's an inevitable crash in these markets. It's when and not if. Enjoy it while you can guys! So maybe us older farts should hope for an economic crash to flush these young hot shots back to their gig job income where they would likely be otherwise? And out of SA? Hahaha.
The other thing is, college athletes can now make money off their names via advertisements, endorsements, etc. Etc. Maybe more stupid money potentially chasing girls on SA, especially in big time college towns? Just something to think about.I don't believe that it has anything to do with unemployment, covid-19 checks, or penny stocks. In fact, unemployment and covid-19 checks were not renewed, so stop making that argument now. It has to do with the fact that wages have never kept up with inflation and that nobody makes any real money anymore and there's too much debt. If you have no hope of getting a house anyways then why not spend your money on something enjoyable? If a young guy had a realistic path for saving money then I'd support what you said, but you're missing something -if you save all the money you make from low wages, it still doesn't add up to a good financial situation or a home for a young guy. So, no, a young guy might not be able to spend money on a beautiful home, no matter how much he saves because wages are too low and prices are too high, but he might be able to spend it on all the beautiful pussy. If you preach the free market, don't cry about the free market. I fully support young guys spending their money on getting laid. No, you probably ain't getting a house, but you can still try to fuck every hot woman. If you ruin it for some old guys, too bad. If you preach the free market, don't cry about the free market.
ApplePiePussy
10-19-21, 23:45
I agree with this, but after reading these comments, all the talk about younger guys living in their parents' basement yet spending their discretionary $$ freely buying into the bangfest on SA, I feel much less sorry for them now, when I read the news headlines about how young people can't afford homes these days. LOL. Can't afford a home? Ya think! Here's an OK Boomer secret SAVE your discretionary income, bang free fat girls, DON'T blow it on hot SB's! LOL.
Also, about the recent influx of younger guys on SA I wonder how much of this is due to all the stupid money being made trading on Robinhood and meme stocks. Also the Bitcoin bubble. All this is stupid money which will vaporize when there's an inevitable crash in these markets. It's when and not if. Enjoy it while you can guys! So maybe us older farts should hope for an economic crash to flush these young hot shots back to their gig job income where they would likely be otherwise? And out of SA? Hahaha.
The other thing is, college athletes can now make money off their names via advertisements, endorsements, etc. Etc. Maybe more stupid money potentially chasing girls on SA, especially in big time college towns? Just something to think about.Imagine wishing for an economic crash, which would cause untold generational suffering, both here and abroad through the domino effect, under the delusion that this will somehow make your shriveled fixed-income dick more appealing to women your granddaughter's age.
Do not hate on the (relative) success of others. Instead, look to improve your own situation.
I agree with this, but after reading these comments, all the talk about younger guys living in their parents' basement yet spending their discretionary $$ freely buying into the bangfest on SA, I feel much less sorry for them now, when I read the news headlines about how young people can't afford homes these days. LOL. Can't afford a home? Ya think! Here's an OK Boomer secret SAVE your discretionary income, bang free fat girls, DON'T blow it on hot SB's! LOL.
Also, about the recent influx of younger guys on SA I wonder how much of this is due to all the stupid money being made trading on Robinhood and meme stocks. Also the Bitcoin bubble. All this is stupid money which will vaporize when there's an inevitable crash in these markets. It's when and not if. Enjoy it while you can guys! So maybe us older farts should hope for an economic crash to flush these young hot shots back to their gig job income where they would likely be otherwise? And out of SA? Hahaha.
The other thing is, college athletes can now make money off their names via advertisements, endorsements, etc. Etc. Maybe more stupid money potentially chasing girls on SA, especially in big time college towns? Just something to think about.I'm from NJ and I believe chicago is very similar in terms of cost of living and wages. Unless you're making north of 250 k a year, you are working poor. I could have bought a house along time ago as I'm one of those basement trolls but the truth is, even w / my low 6 figure job I still can't really afford to own a home as the economics of actually owning it (taxes and maintenance costs) are not viable or smart. A friend told me that their newly married friends who are in their mid 20's just bought a home in bumbleFuck Pennysylvania and it needs a new septic system - $50,000.
Both are entry level professionals who have a combined income of prob around a 120 k a year if that.
Our whole system is going to crash down sooner or later.
i highly doubt any college athletes are on SA. those guys are the big dogs on campus and have plenty of girls looking to get piped down by them. i honestly just think its gotten so competitive on traditional dating apps that more and more guys are just saying screw it, this saves me time. there are a few manosphere podcasters who did exposes on SA and that is also prob why alot of younger guys are signing up for it as well.
ChicagoBred33
10-20-21, 10:55
I agree with this, but after reading these comments, all the talk about younger guys living in their parents' basement yet spending their discretionary $$ freely buying into the bangfest on SA, I feel much less sorry for them now, when I read the news headlines about how young people can't afford homes these days. LOL. Can't afford a home? Ya think! Here's an OK Boomer secret SAVE your discretionary income, bang free fat girls, DON'T blow it on hot SB's! LOL.
Also, about the recent influx of younger guys on SA I wonder how much of this is due to all the stupid money being made trading on Robinhood and meme stocks. Also the Bitcoin bubble. All this is stupid money which will vaporize when there's an inevitable crash in these markets. It's when and not if. Enjoy it while you can guys! So maybe us older farts should hope for an economic crash to flush these young hot shots back to their gig job income where they would likely be otherwise? And out of SA? Hahaha.
The other thing is, college athletes can now make money off their names via advertisements, endorsements, etc. Etc. Maybe more stupid money potentially chasing girls on SA, especially in big time college towns? Just something to think about.Can you come off as any more bitter? I am on the younger side and have covid dated girls off apps who went the SA route during COVID as a way to either supplement or replace lost info. They were pretty open about their experiences and I can assure you, in this small sample size it wasn't young guys who were creeping them out and being pushy about shit like CIP. Being able to budget and set aside money to hobby isn't some unattainable knowledge held only by 60 year olds, so it doesn't have to be "stupid" money that we spend. It helps not having family expenses, constantly having to buy hotels, and paying for kids. But hey, if you want the economy to crash so you can continue making feeble attempts to lowball hot 20 something's, by all means keep your fingers crossed. Also LOL at the "gig job" pot shot. You sound exactly like the type of person that gets managed out for someone half their age and twice as smart. I've been off SA as a break, but this post made me want to rejoin and just pursue every single woman you message.
https://members.seeking.com/member/1189330f-426c-4ed9-87a0-52e74c3295b2
https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/8119726.htm
Any info? I'm not even sure if she is a "she".
Wants 1 K to start.
Successfully photo verified at least. Which is more than I can say for 90% of the other profiles on SA.
Messaged with her and moved quickly to texting. English was broken with weird grammar and when I asked for a specific pic to prove she was real (holding up a paper with my name written on it), she got pissed and called me a detective (https://members.seeking.com/member/bc242369-def9-4e05-bda5-921aeeef6f47.
Messaged with her and moved quickly to texting. English was broken with weird grammar and when I asked for a specific pic to prove she was real (holding up a paper with my name written on it), she got pissed and called me a detective (https://members.seeking.com/member/bc242369-def9-4e05-bda5-921aeeef6f47.I got a girl I'm talking to that I feel the same way. Weird texts. I'm going to video chat were her tonight to be sure she's the same person as in the ad.
She's not a scam. She's been on SA for a while and has been discussed on the board over the summer. This is just her latest of many profiles she's had. Pics are her she doesn't live up to them in person. She's basically a pro, or at least a very high volume SA type that sees pretty much anyone who will give her 400 and be happy with an all covered and very rushed escort like time.
Messaged with her and moved quickly to texting. English was broken with weird grammar and when I asked for a specific pic to prove she was real (holding up a paper with my name written on it), she got pissed and called me a detective (https://members.seeking.com/member/bc242369-def9-4e05-bda5-921aeeef6f47.
JustinFields
10-20-21, 16:41
I agree with this, but after reading these comments, all the talk about younger guys living in their parents' basement yet spending their discretionary $$ freely buying into the bangfest on SA, I feel much less sorry for them now, when I read the news headlines about how young people can't afford homes these days. LOL. Can't afford a home? Ya think! Here's an OK Boomer secret SAVE your discretionary income, bang free fat girls, DON'T blow it on hot SB's! LOL.
Also, about the recent influx of younger guys on SA I wonder how much of this is due to all the stupid money being made trading on Robinhood and meme stocks. Also the Bitcoin bubble. All this is stupid money which will vaporize when there's an inevitable crash in these markets. It's when and not if. Enjoy it while you can guys! So maybe us older farts should hope for an economic crash to flush these young hot shots back to their gig job income where they would likely be otherwise? And out of SA? Hahaha.
The other thing is, college athletes can now make money off their names via advertisements, endorsements, etc. Etc. Maybe more stupid money potentially chasing girls on SA, especially in big time college towns? Just something to think about.You sound kind of spiteful! I am not a millenial but BTC is the real deal! It will not crash and is the future. I will bet you any amount of money that it hits 100 k very soon.
Let the young guys do whatever they want. If they have the money bang all the SB's you want.
College athletes are not paying for pussy. Guys in their 20's who are in The top 10% are not paying for Pussy.
Young guys candle hat they want but if my 20 year old son came to me and said I am going to get on SA and pay for pussy I would probably be against it. I think it can make you lazy and you have to learn how to hunt. You have to smash a good amount of girls in the wild and transition to this when you're older. You will never develop game by ducking SB's for money!
Can you come off as any more bitter? I am on the younger side and have covid dated girls off apps who went the SA route during COVID as a way to either supplement or replace lost info. They were pretty open about their experiences and I can assure you, in this small sample size it wasn't young guys who were creeping them out and being pushy about shit like CIP. Being able to budget and set aside money to hobby isn't some unattainable knowledge held only by 60 year olds, so it doesn't have to be "stupid" money that we spend. It helps not having family expenses, constantly having to buy hotels, and paying for kids. But hey, if you want the economy to crash so you can continue making feeble attempts to lowball hot 20 something's, by all means keep your fingers crossed. Also LOL at the "gig job" pot shot. You sound exactly like the type of person that gets managed out for someone half their age and twice as smart. I've been off SA as a break, but this post made me want to rejoin and just pursue every single woman you message.Hes def the treacherous, out of touch greedy boomer. He had a stable good paying job since 1982 and prob retired 5 years ago and he still thinks you can just buy a house and raise a family on a 100 k a year LOL.
HarryMcHardon
10-20-21, 20:46
Well, I didn't mean to ruffle so many feathers here LOL. No worries. I still believe, though, that one shouldn't spend on girls when you're younger simply because you're much more able to get them for free at that age. Someone mentioned this, and I totally agree, that paying for girls when younger prevents development of the hunting instinct (game) that should be developed when you're younger. And saving all that $$$ will able a guy to be able to buy them when he really needs to pay – when he's older and can't get them otherwise, except dried up old hags!
And the younger guys need to realize that whatever game you develop when you are younger will only get better as you age, because you gain confidence and status if you become successful in life. If you don't develop some type of game when younger, there's nothing to build upon. And if you stay in shape and keep your looks, add the $$ and you can be deadly in the P2 P game. In our culture, broke older guys are probably the lowest on the totem pole socially and in the mating game. Even fat, old women can get action. But broke, older men? For the most part, nah. J.
And for me, no I'm not bitter at all. I've had a decent run on SA, for an older guy, and being a relative newbie at mongering at all. I will concede it takes tons of work though, probably a lot more than it takes a younger guy. It is what it is.
And truth be told, push cums to shove, I'd trade places with any of you younger guys in a minute. You have plenty of time to make stupid mistakes and hopefully recover from them. And stupid mistakes are fun! Older guys don't have the luxury of making a lot of stupid mistakes. LOL.
And I would tend to agree with all of you who say that our economic system is rigged and unfair, and there's an impending collapse coming. Even though I went to college, I started out with nothing working years in a factory making $5/ hr, but had success upward from there. I don't think that's possible any longer. And you CAN blame the Boomers for that. But I don't see succeeding generations doing that much to change things economically, as they seem to be more concerned with materialistic consumption (which just feeds the current unfair economic model) and their politics is aimed more towards social issues woke stuff and climate change – not changing the economic model.
I'm from NJ and I believe chicago is very similar in terms of cost of living and wages. Unless you're making north of 250 k a year, you are working poor. l.Nah. If you're two nurses or two teachers, you can get a house in Bridgeport or Armour Square or McKinley Park for about 2. 5 x your annual salary that has a yard, good neighbors and is a 15 min train ride from the Loop. I have friends--teacher, finance, one kid--that moved from Chicago to the Detroit burbs who are moving back to the city because the income / quality of life ratio is better, even though the main expenses seem higher.
"that paying for girls when younger prevents development of the hunting instinct (game)" Bro, for wanting to drop some truth, that is some pseudoscientific nonsense. I could just as easily say that young dudes gain experience they otherwise would not have when they do this. Also, again, you keep saying that if they save their $$ then it all adds up. They ain't making enough $$$ for that. So they should spend it on whatever makes them happy now. If you're going to connect Seeking Arrangement to wokeness then there is nothing, absolutely nothing, you will not blame on wokeness, which means that it's meaningless and just a thing that old guys say when they no longer understand the world. Also, I am not one of those woke people, but you know, those woke people are all for legalizing sex work. Ever go on twitter? It aint the Far Right taliban types you probably watch that are supporting that. For someone so concerned about instinct, I think being alienated by the world so much that everything seems woke to you is a bad spot to be in.
Bottom line, I am youngish. And I do get laid without paying a dime. AND I use SA, and I get laid more. I am not going to judge or complain or cry about any of it. The economic outlook for this country is bad. We are still in a pandemic. People getting laid and having a decent time, young or old, is a good thing.
ArtMann1711
10-21-21, 09:41
OK so this is my first attempt on SA. I'll go through the few I've been talking with and what but I know and the bits that make me scratch my head. TLDR Have any of you ever sent money before meeting for "x" reason. Like she needs help or her car is broken kind of stuff? I've Also been talking to a few others and they seem like pros and am curious for intel.
First the "pros".
1. Sweetestbabe https://members.seeking.com/member/e7873d59-a5e8-4428-9e57-4eb931ee364f.
This one got back to me quick and we switched to text and is looking to setup a ppm. Waiting for initial price and location possibility still but seems like a pro from what I've read lurking here? Anyone met her before?
2. Savannah1770 https://members.seeking.com/member/5394b8d8-8cfe-4039-969b-430a242eb082.
I saw a few pages back some info about her but did anyone actually go see her?? Immediately switched to text and rates.
Then here's my trouble girls. Basically for both there was long seemingly great conversation that devolved into them having issues of some sort that required money in advance. Both are "new" to the site but having no reference I don't know how often or easy it is for a scammer to setup on SA.
Girl one StarrbabyXX https://members.seeking.com/member/ae7a4248-065f-4517-b03a-c209dc4a6f61.
Conversation went on for a while. We started talking arrangements and switched to snap. She sent me some hot pics to get me excited and even responded to a request so this is where my confusion starts because it seemed very nice up to that point. I get her number we switch to text. The story comes out. Now if you look at her profile she's actually specifically saying she needs out of a current relationship so I knew there was some baggage coming. But she wants me to send her enough money she can leave her BF and get her own place so she can be safe. And part of me wants to help her because she's not even asking for all that much because she's got the rest ($300) I guess I'm just in a weird spot I normally see independent girls or massages and here I am trying not to care about her situation but able to help but hoping someone's with experience here has seen this stuff and can help me out?
The second one "beck" https://members.seeking.com/member/944ae9b9-6346-4913-88ee-3127cc23cc12.
I'll keep this one shorter but very similar story "feel" and am looking for the same insight as above except this one started "tough" and when we started talking arrangements she admitted to me she had no idea what to ask or anything and would follow my guidance. We switch to text and conversation about a date ultimately lead her revealing she had been kicked out of the house and was staying at her sisters with a broken down car and she's running out of time to stay there. She has t talked any numbers yet but I can't help but my soft side wants to help but I'd go broke helping every girl in trouble too!
On top of these I have one new girl I did set up a date with and TOFT and will report as well as a couple girls from a bit too far away (think one state) who haven't even asked for anything financially but are already just chatting away on snap like FWB. I'm pretty happy with my experience on SA so far just don't know what to do with these 2! Please advise and sorry for the monster write up.
"that paying for girls when younger prevents development of the hunting instinct (game)" Bro, for wanting to drop some truth, that is some pseudoscientific nonsense. I could just as easily say that young dudes gain experience they otherwise would not have when they do this. Also, again, you keep saying that if they save their $$ then it all adds up. They ain't making enough $$$ for that. So they should spend it on whatever makes them happy now. If you're going to connect Seeking Arrangement to wokeness then there is nothing, absolutely nothing, you will not blame on wokeness, which means that it's meaningless and just a thing that old guys say when they no longer understand the world. Also, I am not one of those woke people, but you know, those woke people are all for legalizing sex work. Ever go on twitter? It aint the Far Right taliban types you probably watch that are supporting that. For someone so concerned about instinct, I think being alienated by the world so much that everything seems woke to you is a bad spot to be in.
Bottom line, I am youngish. And I do get laid without paying a dime. AND I use SA, and I get laid more. I am not going to judge or complain or cry about any of it. The economic outlook for this country is bad. We are still in a pandemic. People getting laid and having a decent time, young or old, is a good thing.I think you guys have a great perspective on the crap sandwich the Millennials have been fed. There's no sense in not living for today when the future is f'd. But I'm a Gen Xer and nobody gives a shit what we think.
As for the free play, it definitely exists even for older guys like me. You have to treat them like a girlfriend not an escort that's on booty call. I've seen a few of the girls on SA because they like the naughty factor, but some don't want or need the money and taking cash for sex doesn't feel right to them. That's why if we're in a long term thing I buy them stuff they need, help with car etc. These are all things you have to do for your vanilla relationships too.
JustinFields
10-21-21, 12:30
"that paying for girls when younger prevents development of the hunting instinct (game)" Bro, for wanting to drop some truth, that is some pseudoscientific nonsense. I could just as easily say that young dudes gain experience they otherwise would not have when they do this. Also, again, you keep saying that if they save their $$ then it all adds up. They ain't making enough $$$ for that. So they should spend it on whatever makes them happy now. If you're going to connect Seeking Arrangement to wokeness then there is nothing, absolutely nothing, you will not blame on wokeness, which means that it's meaningless and just a thing that old guys say when they no longer understand the world. Also, I am not one of those woke people, but you know, those woke people are all for legalizing sex work. Ever go on twitter? It aint the Far Right taliban types you probably watch that are supporting that. For someone so concerned about instinct, I think being alienated by the world so much that everything seems woke to you is a bad spot to be in.
Bottom line, I am youngish. And I do get laid without paying a dime. AND I use SA, and I get laid more. I am not going to judge or complain or cry about any of it. The economic outlook for this country is bad. We are still in a pandemic. People getting laid and having a decent time, young or old, is a good thing.I say spend money and do what you have to do that makes you happy. That being said I have probably fucked more girls in the wild than 99% of the posters on this site. When I was in my 20's I would laugh at dudes paying for pussy and say why would you be doing that? That being said I was heavily involved in the nightclub scene and had a crew of guys with high social status and was extremely good looking. I am in my 40's and on gear and I have heard many girls I met through seeking tell me WTF are you doing paying for pussy.
I have known a few guys who introduced me to this who never got pussy without paying for it and started banging escorts at a young age and their mind is kind of warped when it comes to the game. They don't know the difference between fucking a girl for free and on SA.
When you PAY FOR THE PUSSY the girl sees you as a simp in the back of her mind. You are of low value and not of high value. I am in my 40's so I don't give a fuck but call the game as it is.
JustinFields
10-21-21, 12:36
I think you guys have a great perspective on the crap sandwich the Millennials have been fed. There's no sense in not living for today when the future is f'd. But I'm a Gen Xer and nobody gives a shit what we think.
As for the free play, it definitely exists even for older guys like me. You have to treat them like a girlfriend not an escort that's on booty call. I've seen a few of the girls on SA because they like the naughty factor, but some don't want or need the money and taking cash for sex doesn't feel right to them. That's why if we're in a long term thing I buy them stuff they need, help with car etc. These are all things you have to do for your vanilla relationships too.I have never ever bought a girl stuff they need help with in my vanilla relationships. I could understand buy drinks or even dinner but handing them cash I have never done. You are essentially a sugar daddy or a husband.
JustinFields
10-21-21, 12:41
To the guys asking how to get freebies use game the way you would in the wild.
My advice is never pay them any allowance. Once you give an allowance it is much harder to convert them to a fuck buddy without pay no matter how good you fuck them or how big your dick is.
Once you give them an allowance they see you as a meal ticket and it is difficult to be reversed. I have done it but better to start off without allowance and go from there.
SA has hit mainstream recently because every girl asks now what type of arrangement are you looking for where this was not the case even 6 months ago. Many guys have gotten freebies and the girls are on to it.
I think you guys have a great perspective on the crap sandwich the Millennials have been fed. There's no sense in not living for today when the future is f'd. But I'm a Gen Xer and nobody gives a shit what we think.
As for the free play, it definitely exists even for older guys like me. You have to treat them like a girlfriend not an escort that's on booty call. I've seen a few of the girls on SA because they like the naughty factor, but some don't want or need the money and taking cash for sex doesn't feel right to them. That's why if we're in a long term thing I buy them stuff they need, help with car etc. These are all things you have to do for your vanilla relationships too.100% on point. The ladies want to be treated well and normally, but that requires the monger to be well and normal (let's face it there's a reason many of these girls are jaded). I'm sure DynoJr has much success with that approach, as do I. These women crave to receive what their shitty father were supposed to give them. It's so clear as day and it's so easy to give because most of the guys just don't get it.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e1270b14-ed98-4d59-9a01-30f4ce9cd039
Asking 250 and can host. Does anyone have info on her? Seems TGTBT. Thanks!
I say spend money and do what you have to do that makes you happy. That being said I have probably fucked more girls in the wild than 99% of the posters on this site. When I was in my 20's I would laugh at dudes paying for pussy and say why would you be doing that? That being said I was heavily involved in the nightclub scene and had a crew of guys with high social status and was extremely good looking. I am in my 40's and on gear and I have heard many girls I met through seeking tell me WTF are you doing paying for pussy.
I have known a few guys who introduced me to this who never got pussy without paying for it and started banging escorts at a young age and their mind is kind of warped when it comes to the game. They don't know the difference between fucking a girl for free and on SA.
When you PAY FOR THE PUSSY the girl sees you as a simp in the back of her mind. You are of low value and not of high value. I am in my 40's so I don't give a fuck but call the game as it is.As Charlie Sheen said in Two and a Half Men "the 500 $ I pay for the prostitute is not for the sex but for the cab that she will take after we have sex" meaning once you pay she doesn't expect you to divorce your wife and merry her or be with her on Valentines day or * and moan when you're on a family vacation with your wife. I've been on that side too and as someone mentioned the free pussy after college becomes the most expensive one as it was in my case. Also when you're married free pussy is hard to come by because girls want a relationship to agree to have sex and most don't want to mess around married men.
Renegade82
10-21-21, 18:59
https://members.seeking.com/member/91dac19d-2e52-460c-a51f-a1df72e0ecb4
Wants 600 meets in Schaumburg one hour no anal everything covered. Didn't partake.
https://members.seeking.com/member/9f6018c8-8dbf-494e-96ee-1a0e7e809f35
Fake not in Chicago goes to snap.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/9dcd78c2-a6ba-47d5-bc84-49fc853b6e31
Pro wanted 500.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/1616051e-92c5-44af-b034-c453a6cfad29
Was talking for awhile, tried to sell me life insurance not sure if real says too busy to meet up.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/eb0a6688-0eb9-4eee-a255-775883def4e3
Wants 600 everything covered.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/5e3a1eb0-6436-4ef3-a092-7cedd4cd9698
Fake.
Sorry didn't see anyone that has not being commented about. I do think girls are asking for crazy amounts for everything covered.
Be safe.
https://members.seeking.com/member/91dac19d-2e52-460c-a51f-a1df72e0ecb4
Wants 600 meets in Schaumburg one hour no anal everything covered. Didn't partake.
https://members.seeking.com/member/9f6018c8-8dbf-494e-96ee-1a0e7e809f35
Fake not in Chicago goes to snap.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/9dcd78c2-a6ba-47d5-bc84-49fc853b6e31
Pro wanted 500.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/1616051e-92c5-44af-b034-c453a6cfad29
Was talking for awhile, tried to sell me life insurance not sure if real says too busy to meet up.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/eb0a6688-0eb9-4eee-a255-775883def4e3
Wants 600 everything covered.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/5e3a1eb0-6436-4ef3-a092-7cedd4cd9698
Fake.
Sorry didn't see anyone that has not being commented about. I do think girls are asking for crazy amounts for everything covered.
Be safe.Your last 4 links are for your message inbox.
Thanks for sharing!
My membership will end, so here are my last inbox.
https://members.seeking.com/member/7b16b66d-7b4f-4498-8df5-c3afeae4f20e
This one chat and move to text, you have to come to her but she will fuck if the price is right.
https://members.seeking.com/member/8d4978ef-fd05-41cf-aae0-65023bdbb41f
This one probably a scammer, her private pic look good, but I will not continue if the girls don't view my profile, probably fake.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ce4da14a-82f7-4162-afa3-55b0117b7ff6
Scammer, message me first with a 201 area code, I will pass.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d558d5f3-2911-4865-a22b-beb3c57e5bc9
This one going to school I iowa, she probably back for the holiday, but I will pass.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3602b3cb-7ac9-4fe4-820a-cd4f16333405
This one require coffee or drinks first, then I think she will fuck after, not my type, maybe for you.
https://members.seeking.com/member/46467fa9-a975-4856-ad8e-6ef53468bcfb
This one is down to fuck, but you need to meet her for coffee or drinks first, not for me, maybe for you.
Man, all you guys on here have your own theory about pussy and anything else, and sometime have nothing to do with pussy, my theory will be the same, if you want something nice in this world it will cost you, if you don't don't believe, just leave your house and just look around your world, just look at all the rich old guys out there and their girlfriends and wives vs old guys with no money girlfriends or wives, do you see the different, I think money buy you hot young hot coed pussy, if you want something below ave. Ugly it may or may not be free, it all about what you value, your standard and what you want, but please don't tell me a old, fat and ugly old or old guy can get free hot young coed pussy fore free, it will never happen, if I ask donald trump or hugh hefner, when you were in your 50's do all the hot young models fuck you for free, I think they will starting laughing so hard, they will probably tell me old ladies free yes but hot young coed, not a chance, that's is my theory and that what I see, just look at old guys at walmart with there girlfriends / wives and old rich famous guys on tv with their girlfriends / wives, do you see the different, I do, and is all about money.
If anyone in their 40's, 50's or 60's can verify or prove they can fuck girls these sa girls for free, I will worship you every day.
https://members.seeking.com/member/960d7ed2-a038-4e2c-b9cc-cb74e80e6f61
https://members.seeking.com/member/5b642833-560a-4ec3-a858-f3a759118301
https://members.seeking.com/member/50e9474c-a27d-44df-b5f4-076b5bace0b7
https://members.seeking.com/member/d1b22afa-13a8-4e58-b6d5-666d84855499
My membership will end, so here are my last inbox.
https://members.seeking.com/member/7b16b66d-7b4f-4498-8df5-c3afeae4f20e
This one chat and move to text, you have to come to her but she will fuck if the price is right.
I was talking to her several months ago and she kind of disappeared for awhile, I see she's back. Did she discuss a number?
If anyone in their 40's, 50's or 60's can verify or prove they can fuck girls these sa girls for free, I will worship you every day.
https://members.seeking.com/member/960d7ed2-a038-4e2c-b9cc-cb74e80e6f61
KindGirl was on my short list but none of her many pics seemed like anything near Chicago so I was skeptical.
https://members.seeking.com/member/87ae7319-1477-4661-911d-eb7c7194f792
Man I wish she is real but probably a scammer, this can be some rich old guys GF or wife, but poor old guy, I don't think so, but either way is not free.
I was talking to her several months ago and she kind of disappeared for awhile, I see she's back. Did she discuss a number?Yes, I offer her 400+ some gifts, we text back and forth, she is too far from me, she do drive but I don't think she will drive to me tho, good luck to you.
I say spend money and do what you have to do that makes you happy. That being said I have probably fucked more girls in the wild than 99% of the posters on this site. When I was in my 20's I would laugh at dudes paying for pussy and say why would you be doing that? That being said I was heavily involved in the nightclub scene and had a crew of guys with high social status and was extremely good looking. I am in my 40's and on gear and I have heard many girls I met through seeking tell me WTF are you doing paying for pussy.
I have known a few guys who introduced me to this who never got pussy without paying for it and started banging escorts at a young age and their mind is kind of warped when it comes to the game. They don't know the difference between fucking a girl for free and on SA.
When you PAY FOR THE PUSSY the girl sees you as a simp in the back of her mind. You are of low value and not of high value. I am in my 40's so I don't give a fuck but call the game as it is.I just got to say that the talk about "simps" and "instinct" and "the game" is total pseudoscience. 1.) If what that original poster had said was true, then he, a guy at older age, would have "developed" that "instinct" for "the game" by now. Instead, he's hoping for an economic crash because it might increase his odds that he can score some young pussy. Well, why hasn't he "developed" that "instinct" for "the game" by now, if what he said was true? Shouldn't he have reached older age with such developed instincts that he doesn't need to use SA anymore? Shouldn't he be able to charm some coed out of her panties by now if what he was saying was really the way things worked. Sadly, "alpha" "beta" "instincts" "nature", it's all just stupid shit that people say, and it's not real. Yeah, it's what people believe and feel but just because you believe something strongly doesn't make it true. 2.) The entire argument makes it seem like humanity's current state of sex and relationships were the same in the past as they are now. Not true. Go back a few hundred years ago and did people get married or have sex for love or attraction? No, people got married and had sex to increase their family wealth. It was basically a transaction that went along the liens of "I'll have claim on some of your family's wealth and in return, you can fuck my daughter. " There was no "game" to it. If people want to talk about "game" then fine, but don't make it sound like it's a part of some larger scientific or historical thing. To suggest that there is an "instinct" is to suggest that people have been living like we have for thousands of years and developing it for thousands of years and that just is not true. If it were true, then what happened to that "game" and "instincts" for those thousands of years when people just basically hoped to sell their daughters to a family with more wealth? Where was the game then? What happened to instincts for all those thousands of years when it wasn't used or needed? Do you really imagine cavemen or even medieval families going to night clubs and picking up chicks the way we do now? If one believes that, one might believe anything. Books and videos about "simps" and "instinct" and "nature" are just ways of taking an insecure guy's money. Now that guy isn't getting laid and he is spending his money on some book about getting laid when he could be just getting laid.
I just say, you do you. And what you want to do with SA is totally up to you and you shouldn't let anyone talk you into or out of anything.
Anyways, I feel like Milwaukee and Racine have a better SA scene going on right now and Chicago is just too hard to weed through. I'll have a dump sometime later in the month about SA girls from the great cheese state.
Very, very few men get sex for free or have the combination of looks / personality / height to get it on a regular basis. A slightly above average guy in terms of looks can get some if he puts in alot of effort and is obsessed with it.
Most chads don't understand why people pay for sex until they hit their 40's and 50's when their looks and energy fade but for the vast majority of us, we got to pay for it.
Sometimes I get bummed out on all of this stuff but in all honesty if I was the kind of guy who got girls due to my looks. Would I be where I am at now in my career? Would I be motivated to grind hard and level up? unfortunately your value as a man to other males is largely determined by your ability to attract women, guys dont want to be friends with guys who dont get girls or atleast hang out with them
So. I'm an analytics guy and know a thing or two about data.
My advice to you guys is that Mon. thru Weds after 8 pm and about 11 pm are peak usage times so if you hit it at this time of the evening you should get more responses, especially the next morning.
One of my strategies (that used to work alot better, not so much anymore due to the pandemic) was to just keep running searches for new users every 30 minutes to an hour or so and hitting them up. I don't trade anymore / at the moment but my experiences on SA are similar to trading. Requires lots of patience and somewhat of an analytical mind to be successful at it. You really need to watch the screen and respond somewhat quickly as these girls are getting large quantities of messages.
These techniques apply to online dating big time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFM_(market_research).
ApplePiePussy
10-22-21, 00:53
I just got to say that the talk about "simps" and "instinct" and "the game" is total pseudoscience. 1.) If what that original poster had said was true, then he, a guy at older age, would have "developed" that "instinct" for "the game" by now. Instead, he's hoping for an economic crash because it might increase his odds that he can score some young pussy. Well, why hasn't he "developed" that "instinct" for "the game" by now, if what he said was true? Shouldn't he have reached older age with such developed instincts that he doesn't need to use SA anymore? Shouldn't he be able to charm some coed out of her panties by now if what he was saying was really the way things worked. Sadly, "alpha" "beta" "instincts" "nature", it's all just stupid shit that people say, and it's not real. Yeah, it's what people believe and feel but just because you believe something strongly doesn't make it true. 2.) The entire argument makes it seem like humanity's current state of sex and relationships were the same in the past as they are now. Not true. Go back a few hundred years ago and did people get married or have sex for love or attraction? No, people got married and had sex to increase their family wealth. It was basically a transaction that went along the liens of "I'll have claim on some of your family's wealth and in return, you can fuck my daughter. " There was no "game" to it. If people want to talk about "game" then fine, but don't make it sound like it's a part of some larger scientific or historical thing. To suggest that there is an "instinct" is to suggest that people have been living like we have for thousands of years and developing it for thousands of years and that just is not true. If it were true, then what happened to that "game" and "instincts" for those thousands of years when people just basically hoped to sell their daughters to a family with more wealth? Where was the game then? What happened to instincts for all those thousands of years when it wasn't used or needed? Do you really imagine cavemen or even medieval families going to night clubs and picking up chicks the way we do now? If one believes that, one might believe anything. Books and videos about "simps" and "instinct" and "nature" are just ways of taking an insecure guy's money. Now that guy isn't getting laid and he is spending his money on some book about getting laid when he could be just getting laid.
I just say, you do you. And what you want to do with SA is totally up to you and you shouldn't let anyone talk you into or out of anything.
Anyways, I feel like Milwaukee and Racine have a better SA scene going on right now and Chicago is just too hard to weed through. I'll have a dump sometime later in the month about SA girls from the great cheese state.It really boils down to one thing: Facial aesthetics. This trumps just about everything else. This trumps money, confidence, status, personality etc. It even trumps fitness. Yes, that's right. When choosing between someone with great facial aesthetics vs someone with an elite body but poor facial aesthetics, the girl will always choose the former. Even if they are overweight!
Here are some studies / articles to depress you even further:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11833-the-face-not-the-body-attracts-a-mate/
https://www.livescience.com/58607-mens-looks-may-matter-more-than-personality.html
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.01292/full
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513809000580?via%3Dihub
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3130383/
Now, here's a bit of positive news for those of you who are Asian or Native American:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/101103-attractive-women-men-faces-skin-color-evolution-diet-health
Very, very few men get sex for free or have the combination of looks / personality / height to get it on a regular basis. A slightly above average guy in terms of looks can get some if he puts in alot of effort and is obsessed with it.
Most chads don't understand why people pay for sex until they hit their 40's and 50's when their looks and energy fade but for the vast majority of us, we got to pay for it.
Sometimes I get bummed out on all of this stuff but in all honesty if I was the kind of guy who got girls due to my looks. Would I be where I am at now in my career? Would I be motivated to grind hard and level up? unfortunately your value as a man to other males is largely determined by your ability to attract women, guys dont want to be friends with guys who dont get girls or atleast hang out with them
So. I'm an analytics guy and know a thing or two about data.
My advice to you guys is that Mon. thru Weds after 8 pm and about 11 pm are peak usage times so if you hit it at this time of the evening you should get more responses, especially the next morning.
One of my strategies (that used to work alot better, not so much anymore due to the pandemic) was to just keep running searches for new users every 30 minutes to an hour or so and hitting them up. I don't trade anymore / at the moment but my experiences on SA are similar to trading. Requires lots of patience and somewhat of an analytical mind to be successful at it. You really need to watch the screen and respond somewhat quickly as these girls are getting large quantities of messages.
These techniques apply to online dating big time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFM_(market_research).I agree that there are lots of factors as to why people are attracted to each other. But look, if your value as a man to other is determined by your ability to attract women then why do so many "leaders" need to pay for it? I could go on and on about how any of this stuff doesn't have to do with evolution because people having only been hooking up, marrying, and having kids because of "attraction" or "love" for a short amount of time. But forget all that for a second. What about now? If your value as a man to other is determined by your ability to attract women then why did so many "leaders" need to use Jeffery Epstein? Why do so many models and pornstars go to Dubai to hookup with rich people? You think some 20 year old is hooking up with some fat prince who she has never heard of because he is "alpha" and has good pickup skills and not because he has a ton of money? What about guys who work on Wall Street? You think they do not have transactional sex? "The Game" or instincts have got nothing to do with it. What I am saying is that humanity has a long history with transactional sex and not a long history with "the game," and as a matter of a fact, even though a lot has changed over the last few hundred years, our present still kind of looks that way and is not totally different. So I am not disagreeing with everything you are saying, but I am just saying that people who are critical of people connecting sex with money or claim that "it's weak" are not being historical and they are not even looking at the present right. If that were true, why do so many powerful people, young and old, still have transactional sex? Why do people like Jeffrey Epstein exist? Is Donald Trump weak? Bill Clinton? Bill Gates? Anyone tied up with that scandal? I'd even say that a large percentage of normal marriages are still transactional, for the most part. Aside from the fact that none of it can be proven, it's why I don't believe the "alpha" "game" "instincts" stuff. The history of sex and relationships throughout human history are too transactional and too rigid for "instincts" and "a game" to develop and there is no reason for anyone, young or old, to be ashamed of something -that has- been going down for thousands of years.
JustinFields
10-22-21, 01:57
I just got to say that the talk about "simps" and "instinct" and "the game" is total pseudoscience. 1.) If what that original poster had said was true, then he, a guy at older age, would have "developed" that "instinct" for "the game" by now. Instead, he's hoping for an economic crash because it might increase his odds that he can score some young pussy. Well, why hasn't he "developed" that "instinct" for "the game" by now, if what he said was true? Shouldn't he have reached older age with such developed instincts that he doesn't need to use SA anymore? Shouldn't he be able to charm some coed out of her panties by now if what he was saying was really the way things worked. Sadly, "alpha" "beta" "instincts" "nature", it's all just stupid shit that people say, and it's not real. Yeah, it's what people believe and feel but just because you believe something strongly doesn't make it true. 2.) The entire argument makes it seem like humanity's current state of sex and relationships were the same in the past as they are now. Not true. Go back a few hundred years ago and did people get married or have sex for love or attraction? No, people got married and had sex to increase their family wealth. It was basically a transaction that went along the liens of "I'll have claim on some of your family's wealth and in return, you can fuck my daughter. " There was no "game" to it. If people want to talk about "game" then fine, but don't make it sound like it's a part of some larger scientific or historical thing. To suggest that there is an "instinct" is to suggest that people have been living like we have for thousands of years and developing it for thousands of years and that just is not true. If it were true, then what happened to that "game" and "instincts" for those thousands of years when people just basically hoped to sell their daughters to a family with more wealth? Where was the game then? What happened to instincts for all those thousands of years when it wasn't used or needed? Do you really imagine cavemen or even medieval families going to night clubs and picking up chicks the way we do now? If one believes that, one might believe anything. Books and videos about "simps" and "instinct" and "nature" are just ways of taking an insecure guy's money. Now that guy isn't getting laid and he is spending his money on some book about getting laid when he could be just getting laid.
I just say, you do you. And what you want to do with SA is totally up to you and you shouldn't let anyone talk you into or out of anything.
Anyways, I feel like Milwaukee and Racine have a better SA scene going on right now and Chicago is just too hard to weed through. I'll have a dump sometime later in the month about SA girls from the great cheese state.A 45 year old who was a chad when he was younger is not going to bang 21 year old on a regular basis. There is too much to overcome. The social stigma being that the girl can't bring you around family and friends. She is going to be attracted to guys her age for the most part. The dress, looks, and she will probably have more in common with the younger guy. A girl having sex with you for money than not for money is completely different. It is a different feeling for her and for you. She is more likely to cum when she is not fucking you for money. Many but not all girls have a barrier psychologically and will not cum with a guy they are fucking for money. I tell you what follow these girls on instagram and chat and see the guys they are fucking for free. They are not chads but they tend to be around there age. You don't see them on the there instagram story with the sugar daddy they met on SA.
You can't compare today to 100 years ago. A girl couldn't even get married in those days if she wasn't a virgin. In the 70's if you were in America and 40 you could go to eastern Europe and marry a 23 year old because in those days eastern Europe was poor and they were desperate. We are richer today but the gap as closed and people are not as desperate.
To sum it up the girl on seeking that I am paying to fuck sees me of lower value than she does the guy she is fucking for free.
JustinFields
10-22-21, 02:06
I agree that there are lots of factors as to why people are attracted to each other. But look, if your value as a man to other is determined by your ability to attract women then why do so many "leaders" need to pay for it? I could go on and on about how any of this stuff doesn't have to do with evolution because people having only been hooking up, marrying, and having kids because of "attraction" or "love" for a short amount of time. But forget all that for a second. What about now? If your value as a man to other is determined by your ability to attract women then why did so many "leaders" need to use Jeffery Epstein? Why do so many models and pornstars go to Dubai to hookup with rich people? You think some 20 year old is hooking up with some fat prince who she has never heard of because he is "alpha" and has good pickup skills and not because he has a ton of money? What about guys who work on Wall Street? You think they do not have transactional sex? "The Game" or instincts have got nothing to do with it. What I am saying is that humanity has a long history with transactional sex and not a long history with "the game," and as a matter of a fact, even though a lot has changed over the last few hundred years, our present still kind of looks that way and is not totally different. So I am not disagreeing with everything you are saying, but I am just saying that people who are critical of people connecting sex with money or claim that "it's weak" are not being historical and they are not even looking at the present right. If that were true, why do so many powerful people, young and old, still have transactional sex? Why do people like Jeffrey Epstein exist? Is Donald Trump weak? Bill Clinton? Bill Gates? Anyone tied up with that scandal? I'd even say that a large percentage of normal marriages are still transactional, for the most part. Aside from the fact that none of it can be proven, it's why I don't believe the "alpha" "game" "instincts" stuff. The history of sex and relationships throughout human history are too transactional and too rigid for "instincts" and "a game" to develop and there is no reason for anyone, young or old, to be ashamed of something -that has- been going down for thousands of years.You act like all sex is transactional it is not. When you meet a girl on SA and pay her it is absolutely Transactional. The girl that you take home from the bar Is not transactional . There is a big difference. IF you can't see that than I don't know what to tell you.
Me personally I love SA because I am short on time and there is no emotions involved and I don't have to spend time with them. I just get straight down to business. That being said it is better for the soul when I meet a girl on SA and fuck her for free.
I agree that there are lots of factors as to why people are attracted to each other. But look, if your value as a man to other is determined by your ability to attract women then why do so many "leaders" need to pay for it? I could go on and on about how any of this stuff doesn't have to do with evolution because people having only been hooking up, marrying, and having kids because of "attraction" or "love" for a short amount of time. But forget all that for a second. What about now? If your value as a man to other is determined by your ability to attract women then why did so many "leaders" need to use Jeffery Epstein? Why do so many models and pornstars go to Dubai to hookup with rich people? You think some 20 year old is hooking up with some fat prince who she has never heard of because he is "alpha" and has good pickup skills and not because he has a ton of money? What about guys who work on Wall Street? You think they do not have transactional sex? "The Game" or instincts have got nothing to do with it. What I am saying is that humanity has a long history with transactional sex and not a long history with "the game," and as a matter of a fact, even though a lot has changed over the last few hundred years, our present still kind of looks that way and is not totally different. So I am not disagreeing with everything you are saying, but I am just saying that people who are critical of people connecting sex with money or claim that "it's weak" are not being historical and they are not even looking at the present right. If that were true, why do so many powerful people, young and old, still have transactional sex? Why do people like Jeffrey Epstein exist? Is Donald Trump weak? Bill Clinton? Bill Gates? Anyone tied up with that scandal? I'd even say that a large percentage of normal marriages are still transactional, for the most part. Aside from the fact that none of it can be proven, it's why I don't believe the "alpha" "game" "instincts" stuff. The history of sex and relationships throughout human history are too transactional and too rigid for "instincts" and "a game" to develop and there is no reason for anyone, young or old, to be ashamed of something -that has- been going down for thousands of years.The "Leaders" and 99% of men pay because they want her to go away for the obvious reasons. Sex outside of marriage is still considered taboo and wrong by societal standards. Men with money who are single don't pay outright, they use their money to attract the girl. Men with money who are attached to someone or something (status etc.) pay directly to attract. Pretty simple human gender behaviors that have not changed since the beginning of Humans. Women want security, men want sex. The trade is pretty simple. The currency is determined by your place in life. The price is determined by your unique features and marketplace dynamics. Good luck Gentlemen.
Very, very few men get sex for free or have the combination of looks / personality / height to get it on a regular basis. A slightly above average guy in terms of looks can get some if he puts in alot of effort and is obsessed with it.
Most chads don't understand why people pay for sex until they hit their 40's and 50's when their looks and energy fade but for the vast majority of us, we got to pay for it.
Sometimes I get bummed out on all of this stuff but in all honesty if I was the kind of guy who got girls due to my looks. Would I be where I am at now in my career? Would I be motivated to grind hard and level up? unfortunately your value as a man to other males is largely determined by your ability to attract women, guys dont want to be friends with guys who dont get girls or atleast hang out with them
Jesus, that's such a dark take. I dunno, man. Maybe I haven't experienced the kind of social trauma many of you have but there is definitely a lot of frustration with life on this thread, maybe even this entire board. It makes me sad.
It also makes me wonder if a lot of us are as broken as we always say women in this hobby are. Life should be fun. This should be fun. Or what's the point?
Everyone has their own personal unique theories about this game we play. Each theory doesn't apply to 90 percent of everyone. Your theory and perspective is what you've experienced. There's no right or wrong belief. In simplistic terms women sell sex and guys pay for sex.
Everyone has their own personal unique theories about this game we play. Each theory doesn't apply to 90 percent of everyone. Your theory and perspective is what you've experienced. There's no right or wrong belief. In simplistic terms women sell sex and guys pay for sex.I agree and well said man, and I will add, more desirable, younger beautiful women will cost you even more, just open your eyes and look around and think.
Very, very few men get sex for free or have the combination of looks / personality / height to get it on a regular basis. Most chads don't understand why people pay for sex until they hit their 40's and 50's when their looks and energy fade but for the vast majority of us, we got to pay for it.This is a good point.
The stats say that 80% of women are having sex with only 20% of men.
It's the Pareto principal.
Men are having less sex. Women have so many more options thanks to instagram and social media that they can be selective with who they see. Until they hit the wall.
Jesus, that's such a dark take. I dunno, man. Maybe I haven't experienced the kind of social trauma many of you have but there is definitely a lot of frustration with life on this thread, maybe even this entire board. It makes me sad.
It also makes me wonder if a lot of us are as broken as we always say women in this hobby are. Life should be fun. This should be fun. Or what's the point?Is it really a dark take though? They are my realistic observations. There is data to prove what I'm saying. I think I read somewhere that most men only have 3-4 sexual partners before they get married.
In 2018,27% of all 18 year old men were virgins. They started keeping track of this data in the early 90's and it always fluctuated a bit, but it was about 10% on average every year. In 2012 the # started climbing (due to tinder, imo.) and now its prob even higher than 30% due to the lockdowns.
Its tough out there!
I used to see this one when she was in college. https://members.seeking.com/member/0b016e5a-c686-434a-bf30-cf75a6d89214 She's real and was smoking. A good time in bed and loved to send nudes. Couldn't fuck her more than a few times because whenever her mouth wasn't full she was absolutely unable to keep herself from talking about conspiracies about Jews, Trump and flat Earth stuff. I can deal with astrology stuff for a while, but a man can only tolerate so much.
You act like all sex is transactional it is not. When you meet a girl on SA and pay her it is absolutely Transactional. The girl that you take home from the bar Is not transactional . There is a big difference. IF you can't see that than I don't know what to tell you.
Me personally I love SA because I am short on time and there is no emotions involved and I don't have to spend time with them. I just get straight down to business. That being said it is better for the soul when I meet a girl on SA and fuck her for free.Ok brother, but you did not address one single thing I said, you just restated the same stuff with different words. You said that "You can't compare today to 100 years ago," and I agree, that's what you're doing. You're saying that you can compare it to thousands of years ago. That an instinct has been developing over centuries and you can trace that instinct to today and what I am saying is that cannot possibly be the case. There are too many holes in that story to really believe that. Ideas about "simps" "chads" "the game" "instinct" are not real. It's just language that guys use to try to explain behavior they really don't understand. If they understood it, couldn't they answer some questions about it? Couldn't they tell me exactly how it works? Couldn't they tell me about it's history and answer questions about its history? I mean, if someone cannot answer even the most basic questions about "a theory" then why do they even believe it? On what basis? Look, I've met a lot of chicks who do the same thing but instead of they use terms from astrology, someone is either a "Gemini" "Libra" "Taurus". What I am saying is that people want to believe in something that is simple and easy to understand, but the truth is that behavior is not easily explained. If it was then the world's best scientists would have it all figured out by now. I mean if anyone believes that someone selling a book or videos on youtube has all the answers to sexual behavior and relationships and that the world can be explained with terms like "libra" or "simp" then I don't know what to say. Beware of snake oil and bullshit, brothers.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e1270b14-ed98-4d59-9a01-30f4ce9cd039
Asking 250 and can host. Does anyone have info on her? Seems TGTBT. Thanks!No way that's real. Either that's not her picture or she will never show.
Al Melrose
10-22-21, 15:14
Is it really a dark take though? They are my realistic observations. There is data to prove what I'm saying. I think I read somewhere that most men only have 3-4 sexual partners before they get married.
In 2018,27% of all 18 year old men were virgins. They started keeping track of this data in the early 90's and it always fluctuated a bit, but it was about 10% on average every year. In 2012 the # started climbing (due to tinder, imo.) and now its prob even higher than 30% due to the lockdowns.
Its tough out there!I am living in a bubble, I did not realize things have gotten that bad. Weird is that I see some really wimpy young guys with some hot girls. I was jealous since the nerd me in HS had no chance with any hot girls. So are these new nerds getting action or just being in the friend zone.
JustinFields
10-22-21, 17:29
Right now with instagram, snap and all the other social media I would be willing to bet that it is not 20 percent of guys fucking all the girls it is probably 5-10 percent.
In my day it was probably 20 percent.
Imagine the amount of attentions girls are getting on social media. An average 22 year old who is a 7 in looks probably gets propositioned for 7-10 dates a week.
That is too much competition for the majority of guys to deal with.
JustinFields
10-22-21, 17:37
Ok brother, but you did not address one single thing I said, you just restated the same stuff with different words. You said that "You can't compare today to 100 years ago," and I agree, that's what you're doing. You're saying that you can compare it to thousands of years ago. That an instinct has been developing over centuries and you can trace that instinct to today and what I am saying is that cannot possibly be the case. There are too many holes in that story to really believe that. Ideas about "simps" "chads" "the game" "instinct" are not real. It's just language that guys use to try to explain behavior they really don't understand. If they understood it, couldn't they answer some questions about it? Couldn't they tell me exactly how it works? Couldn't they tell me about it's history and answer questions about its history? I mean, if someone cannot answer even the most basic questions about "a theory" then why do they even believe it? On what basis? Look, I've met a lot of chicks who do the same thing but instead of they use terms from astrology, someone is either a "Gemini" "Libra" "Taurus". What I am saying is that people want to believe in something that is simple and easy to understand, but the truth is that behavior is not easily explained. If it was then the world's best scientists would have it all figured out by now. I mean if anyone believes that someone selling a book or videos on youtube has all the answers to sexual behavior and relationships and that the world can be explained with terms like "libra" or "simp" then I don't know what to say. Beware of snake oil and bullshit, brothers.Let me explain it to you in simple terms.
If you are fucking a girl on SA for PPM. It doesn't mean she wants to fuck you, it doesn't mean you are making her pussy wet. She is fucking you for money.(I know this and do it anyway and it doesn't bother me one bit and it shouldn't bother anyone).
If you are fucking a girl that you work with with no ppm. It means that she wants to fuck you and in general she will have a higher attraction than the guy she met on SA.
I am not going to get into the science behind it but that is just the way it is. These girls you are paying ppm check there instagram. The guy they are banging is close to them in age and probably isn't much better looking than you are. But she rather fuck him for free than fuck you for 300 ppm.
If you take that same girl and said you have one of two choices.
She could break up with her boyfriend fuck you once a week for 300 ppm guaranteed for a year and make 14400 dollars guaranteed for the year.
Or fuck her boyfriend 3 times a week for free.
She will ghost you and choose her boyfriend. You are transactional her boyfriend is validated.
MwmChicago
10-22-21, 18:36
No way that's real. Either that's not her picture or she will never show.Set up a meet for drinks near my suburban home for Mon. Maybe she shows, if not I'll just get drunk. That girl is so fucking hot to me! OMG, would love to fuck her! Now I'm not going to give her a deposit if that comes up. Will report. Maybe she's just a little clueless about pricing, I did fuck an escort in San Fran 10 years ago that was as hot or hotter than her (bigger tits and so tight). Paid her $300, got her super high and we fucked like college kids for 90 minutes (paid for an hour) for $300.
Right now with instagram, snap and all the other social media I would be willing to bet that it is not 20 percent of guys fucking all the girls it is probably 5-10 percent.
In my day it was probably 20 percent.
Imagine the amount of attentions girls are getting on social media. An average 22 year old who is a 7 in looks probably gets propositioned for 7-10 dates a week.
That is too much competition for the majority of guys to deal with.Yep, a few of the manosphere podcasts talked about this. The 10%-20% are getting pushed out. The end times are here!
RusselJimmies
10-22-21, 20:05
So much cope in this thread. We have an interesting mix of guys who get it and guys who are absolutely clueless.
Everything involving women is fundamentally transactional, even if it's intangible and non-monetary. If they're into you for your status or your amazing fizeek, that is still transactional. That being said, hot young Seeking coeds have a plethora of attractive men and offers to choose from, and only so much time in the day. If she's regularly seeing you for $5 ppm she probably turned down and ignored dozens of higher offers for $6, $7, and up. Why? Because she likes you more than those other dudes. And that's true at every price range.
Sure it's possible she's only seeing you for the money and isn't into you one bit, but if you can't tell the difference then you're in that absolutely clueless category, and you need to learn how to attract women.
And yes there absolutely is an alpha / beta quality which girls can smell a mile away, which can easily overcome many other factors. If you think this is "pure pseudoscience" because you haven't yet been presented you with some peer-reviewed study from a university's sociology department then you're also in that absolutely clueless category and need to start learning from experience instead of so-called experts.
So I've been having lengthy messages back and forth with a somewhat fake looking profile of an Asian woman and she started getting frustrated that I couldn't get my WhatsApp to work. Truthfully it does work but only for my real, not burner number.
I've just had another one tonight with a different Asian woman that really really wanted to communicate on WhatsApp.
Guys, what is their end game here? Once is suspicious, twice makes me think this is a common scam.
RusselJimmies
10-22-21, 20:42
So I've been having lengthy messages back and forth with a somewhat fake looking profile of an Asian woman and she started getting frustrated that I couldn't get my WhatsApp to work. Truthfully it does work but only for my real, not burner number.
I've just had another one tonight with a different Asian woman that really really wanted to communicate on WhatsApp.
Guys, what is their end game here? Once is suspicious, twice makes me think this is a common scam.Discussed here: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?19231-Arrangement-Reports&p=5534807#post5534807.
Anyone have experience with this one?
https://members.seeking.com/member/a7f5cd5b-e002-41c8-99a9-01a3ca8ccfee
RusselJimmies
10-23-21, 05:08
Jesus Christ. Some of you are really jaded. Most girls, believe it or not, still want the fucking fairytale. The RomCom boyfriend who will impress their family and sweep them off their feet. They want to fall in love and get married and have children. Even the ones who fuck PPM on SA or even in the parlors still hold that hope in the back of their minds. There are plenty of hot girls who don't expect allowances and endless gifts. They chase their emotions more than they chase the money.What girls think / say they want and what they actually go for are usually two very different things. It's not hard to find a guy who won't do shit for them and perhaps even mooches. But if they're seeing that kinda guy they almost certainly want him to shape up and start acting like a man meaning both protector and provider. Or they 'll eventually find one who will satisfies both needs, assuming they are attractive enough to do so.
There's nothing jaded about it. It's just the reality of a sexual marketplace where men control access to marriage and women control access to sex.
And before you go there yes ofc there are exceptions to everything, but the exceptions also demonstrate the rule.
I don't know why some guys don't understand SA, SA is a market place where girls go on there to sell their pussy and guys go on there to buy pussy, it not that much different from amazon or ebay, the only really different is the sellers can refuse to sell you her pussy, you maybe get luck and get a fat old ladies pussy for free but idk, I don't go there, everything on sa is transactional, nothing is free. maybe you can ask a seller on amazon or ebay to sell you free products and see what they will said.
If hot young girls want to have sex, they just don't go on sa and find some old guys to fuck for free, they just don't do that, hot young coed go to college bar, club, party ect to find guys and have sex for free, not sa. If you look for love, marriage go to match, pof, church, dog park ect. But don't go on sa looking for love, you will not find it, be safe and just play the sa game and have fun
Discussed here: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?19231-Arrangement-Reports&p=5534807#post5534807.So the ones I've communicated with have similar profiles. All are in their early 30's and the common story is that they're tired of all of the guys just looking for sex. But you sir, are different. I want to learn more about you including what you do for a living.
I saw on a Reddit somewhere that they start communicating on WhatsApp and convince you to make a deposit or some kind of investment. Not sure why they want you on WhatsApp other than they can get a real phone number that is attached to your real identity. I got a random message from an attractive Asian woman asking if I'm David. If I replied I suspect she would try to coax some kind of relationship out of me.
I've reported this type of activity to SA, so if anything hopefully they'll clean this up. Be careful and never disclose any identifying information until you at least get a real life in person meet.
Enough of this shit. I've got a couple real life white girls to work on.
A 45 year old who was a chad when he was younger is not going to bang 21 year old on a regular basis. There is too much to overcome. The social stigma being that the girl can't bring you around family and friends. She is going to be attracted to guys her age for the most part. The dress, looks, and she will probably have more in common with the younger guy. A girl having sex with you for money than not for money is completely different. It is a different feeling for her and for you. She is more likely to cum when she is not fucking you for money. Many but not all girls have a barrier psychologically and will not cum with a guy they are fucking for money. I tell you what follow these girls on instagram and chat and see the guys they are fucking for free. They are not chads but they tend to be around there age. You don't see them on the there instagram story with the sugar daddy they met on SA.
You can't compare today to 100 years ago. A girl couldn't even get married in those days if she wasn't a virgin. In the 70's if you were in America and 40 you could go to eastern Europe and marry a 23 year old because in those days eastern Europe was poor and they were desperate. We are richer today but the gap as closed and people are not as desperate.
To sum it up the girl on seeking that I am paying to fuck sees me of lower value than she does the guy she is fucking for free.These discussions happen over and over on this site. You're not wrong, but we simply can't generalize the SD or SB populations as broadly as everyone would like to in order to fit their (not "there") personal ideologies and preferred narratives.
I've fucked girls on Seeking who didn't even know what being a sugar baby was. They thought it was where you went to meet older guys who would buy them dinner, which, of course, *is* transactional but trivially so. I've met and fucked two college girls from Seeking who I didn't spend a penny on. One of them drove from Tulsa to OKC to have a few drinks in the bar next to my hotel and then spent the night and wouldn't take any money, even though I tried. I've had a couple who took money but were surprised that I was offering. I'm in my late 40's and right now a 25 year old and hot family friend is throwing herself at me to the point of it being awkward who I can't and won't fuck because I am married and her dad is practically my brother and I usually make good decisions. Funnily enough, I saw her Seeking profile five years ago. She only had it up for a week or so, but she definitely likes older guys.
I'm on Seeking because I want to have better sex with hotter girls who are more likeable than I can find on most Escort sites. And because I'm married and want to stay that way, I basically need to find those girls on Seeking if I don't want it to affect my personal life. Paying them is the fastest, most consistent and reliable way to make that happen, so that's what I try to do.
Beyond my experience, I've seen physicians, lawyers and well-paid media personalities profiles on Seeking. I've seen MILFs with nannies, who drive Range Rovers our of their North Shore house that her husband is paying for. They don't need the money. They need the experience.
Some girls just like sex. Some good girls like to do bad things or feel dirty. Some bad girls are bad all the time. Some prefer older guys or guys with status. Some girls like all kinds of guys but prefer getting money, all things being equal. Some girls only fuck hot guys with nice cars and if they can get money while doing it, all the better. Some girls don't prefer older guys but like them well enough to fuck them if it's profitable. Some girls don't hate fucking older guys, but hate the idea of getting paid for sex but because they need the money but will still only fuck the most attractive and honorable seeming guys who make them feel like they are in a relationship. Some girls don't like fucking older guys but will if they get paid enough. Some girls will fuck whomever opens the hotel room door because they need money for heroin, baby formula or both.
They are all on Seeking. And sure, we're mammals and we do mammal stuff and that explains a lot of it. But no single social dynamic or ideology explains all the relationships that happen on Seeking because there's too much diversity. There are women who are prostitutes on Seeking and there are also women who aren't. There are guys who need to pay for it and there are guys that don't, and everything in between.
HarryMcHardon
10-23-21, 11:30
I just got to say that the talk about "simps" and "instinct" and "the game" is total pseudoscience. 1.) If what that original poster had said was true, then he, a guy at older age, would have "developed" that "instinct" for "the game" by now. Instead, he's hoping for an economic crash because it might increase his odds that he can score some young pussy. Well, why hasn't he "developed" that "instinct" for "the game" by now, if what he said was true? Shouldn't he have reached older age with such developed instincts that he doesn't need to use SA anymore? Shouldn't he be able to charm some coed out of her panties by now if what he was saying was really the way things worked. Sadly, "alpha" "beta" "instincts" "nature", it's all just stupid shit that people say, and it's not real. Yeah, it's what people believe and feel but just because you believe something strongly doesn't make it true. 2.) The entire argument makes it seem like humanity's current state of sex and relationships were the same in the past as they are now. Not true. Go back a few hundred years ago and did people get married or have sex for love or attraction? No, people got married and had sex to increase their family wealth. It was basically a transaction that went along the liens of "I'll have claim on some of your family's wealth and in return, you can fuck my daughter. " There was no "game" to it. If people want to talk about "game" then fine, but don't make it sound like it's a part of some larger scientific or historical thing. To suggest that there is an "instinct" is to suggest that people have been living like we have for thousands of years and developing it for thousands of years and that just is not true. If it were true, then what happened to that "game" and "instincts" for those thousands of years when people just basically hoped to sell their daughters to a family with more wealth?.A lot to unpack here.
There is a practiced element to picking up girls. Yes, if you're tall, dark young and handsome, it can be gravy, but still you need to develop confidence and the ability to flirt and make women laugh and be comfortable. Yes, I can see how banging SA girls could somewhat sharpen those skills because there's still an element of competition there, and you can practice convo skills, but it's still not the same as picking up girls for free because you really have to attract the girl with your wit and personality, not just looks or $.
And for an older guy to be able to use his advanced "game," well, that can be true for awhile, maybe into a guy's 40's or early 50's but I passed those milestones eons ago unfortunately. LOL. So what happens then, is there's that pesky fact of life called physical aging. And I'm not even talking about ol limp dick, talking about appearance. So it depends on what's "old. " An older guy can have advanced game or experience, but if he still looks like an old man, well, that's a problem in getting freebies. And after awhile an older guy has to be aware how ridiculous it would look to take a 21 yo out to a EDM festival or Olivia Rodrigo concert, or even a dinner! Ya sure, I'm going to be out there dancing wildly in a sea of 20 year olds, twirling all those day glow things to syncopated computer droning. Just no. LOL. While I'm sure it's happened out there, I think that's a pretty tall order. Not to mention the really older guys are more likely to have plenty of life / schedule commitments that prevent much freedom to go on dates, etc. Taking these SA girls out on real dates is, showing them a good time, I would think, is the key to getting freebies. Likely ain't going to happen for a 55+ yo, no matter the game he has. (Now I'll wait for a cavalcade of 55+ dudes here to pipe up saying they do it all the time LOL) So SA solves many of those problems, and there's no way I'm going to beat my head against a wall to try to pickup freebies there because the chances are so low considering the limitations discussed above.
Back in the "old days," humanity was at a different state, where survival and propagation of the species was paramount. Those factors overwhelmed the importance of "game" or "instinct" in mating. Mating was much more about status, practicality and proximity. I'd bet many men didn't get laid at all if you go back to really old times when the masses of surplus men were used as slaves or cannon fodder. Or they only banged other men or prostitutes. The "ballers" were the slave owners, nobles, royalty, business elites, etc. Etc. Who likely banged an outsized percentage of the women, maybe even more than now. Now we're in an age of leisure. We all have a huge choice on who to bang, unshackled about those worries back in the day. So game or instinct is more important. Women have more choices than ever before, so there is more competition for the attractive ones.
The mating game as always been somewhat cruel for marginal males. And that's because mating is all about maximizing population of the species, if you want to look at it scientifically. And it's much more important to make sure ALL women are banging and getting pregnant, ie, uterine capacity is maximized. And technically, all males aren't needed for that. So in a way, men are much less important in the population maximation scheme. But the surplus men would be very useful in providing labor, protection, being grunts. Etc.
If you watch animal videos, it's entertaining to watch the many hoops males have to jump thru to get prized females. And many males are shut out entirely. No different than human males, it seems. But meerkats don't have an equivalent to SA so they're SOL. LOL.
OnlyDreams
10-23-21, 12:01
Anyone have experience with this one?
https://members.seeking.com/member/a7f5cd5b-e002-41c8-99a9-01a3ca8ccfeeWow! All escorts are also migrating to SA!!
April is from some southern state and used to come to Chicago once a week until she had a high demand and ended up moving to Chicago. At the beginning she was nice but due to her popularity (very affordable rates) she became super but super busy and many times I had to wait for an hour in the parking lot to see her. She had tons of clients at any time or any day of the week. She would host at those motels around Lincoln Avenue on the north site. Her ads were everywhere, Craigslist and then backpage, I'm talking about maybe 8 years ago and she used the very same name (April) I don't know if that's her real name but I'm surprised she still uses that name.
So don't think you are dealing with a regular / organic woman. She was a high volume escort and I wouldn't do bb even if she offered it (most escorts don't offer bb on SA).
So much cope in this thread. We have an interesting mix of guys who get it and guys who are absolutely clueless.
Everything involving women is fundamentally transactional, even if it's intangible and non-monetary. If they're into you for your status or your amazing fizeek, that is still transactional. That being said, hot young Seeking coeds have a plethora of attractive men and offers to choose from, and only so much time in the day. If she's regularly seeing you for $5 ppm she probably turned down and ignored dozens of higher offers for $6, $7, and up. Why? Because she likes you more than those other dudes. And that's true at every price range.
Sure it's possible she's only seeing you for the money and isn't into you one bit, but if you can't tell the difference then you're in that absolutely clueless category, and you need to learn how to attract women.
And yes there absolutely is an alpha / beta quality which girls can smell a mile away, which can easily overcome many other factors. If you think this is "pure pseudoscience" because you haven't yet been presented you with some peer-reviewed study from a university's sociology department then you're also in that absolutely clueless category and need to start learning from experience instead of so-called experts."If you think this is "pure pseudoscience" because you haven't yet been presented you with some peer-reviewed study from a university's sociology department then you're also in that absolutely clueless category and need to start learning from experience instead of so-called experts".
If that is true then address any of my questions. I don't need a fancy degree to see through that silliness, just some common sense. "The experts" you are calling so-called is basically everything that is known about science and the history of people. It's not some small group of professors. It's the sum total of human knowledge. That's why what you're saying is so stupid. The world doesn't work that way. Shit isn't true just because you believe it. If people thought like that, you wouldn't be typing on a computer. If you think you can stick your finger in a light socket only because a "so-called expert" says you cannot, then have at it, bruh. Also, " If she's regularly seeing you for $5 ppm she probably turned down and ignored dozens of higher offers for $6, $7, and up. " This might be the statement of a "simp" after all because bro, she is going to fuck you for $5 and then she is going to fuck the others too $6, $7, and up, and she is going to make all that $. Let me get this straight, what you're saying is, basically, you think the girls you pay $5 for sex actually like you and are not doing it for the money? Bruh, you're in a category called "chump" if you believe that.
Btw, bro, you're using a board about SA and transactional sex to discourage young guys from using SA and having transactional sex. It's like your "inner Taliban," which might be as real as your so-called "instinct" is fighting with your need to use SA. If you don't need it, don't use it. You do you. But I'll just say that everything you said, could have been said by Tom Dart, and I cannot help but wonder if that's you behind the screen, Tommy.
Also, the other guy who said,
"Or fuck her boyfriend 3 times a week for free.
She will ghost you and choose her boyfriend. You are transactional her boyfriend is validated."
So, in this scenario, she is dating "a chad" or an "alpha" but I am also fucking this "chad's" or "alpha's" girlfriend and he doesn't know it. Well, is he still a chad or alpha, if his girlfriend is giving up her ass to me for my chump change on the side? Seems pretty weak and cucky to me if your girlfriend puts her ass in the air to me for my leftover $. The scenario is ridiculous because you're saying she will ghost me and chooser her boyfriend. But didn't she just choose me and ghost her boyfriend as soon as I placed a bid? That's what I am saying, the way some guys think about these things is as stupid as the way some chick thinks astrology and "Scorpios" or "Cancers" are real. I'm sure if I told them that they were wrong about astrology they'd be like "but it's true, it just is, I don't care what some so-called expert thinks." Anyone can punch a million holes in it and it's just what weak minded people choose to believe because they cannot handle the truth.
I don't know why some guys don't understand SA, SA is a market place where girls go on there to sell their pussy and guys go on there to buy pussy, it not that much different from amazon or ebay, the only really different is the sellers can refuse to sell you her pussy, you maybe get luck and get a fat old ladies pussy for free but idk, I don't go there, everything on sa is transactional, nothing is free. maybe you can ask a seller on amazon or ebay to sell you free products and see what they will said.
If hot young girls want to have sex, they just don't go on sa and find some old guys to fuck for free, they just don't do that, hot young coed go to college bar, club, party ect to find guys and have sex for free, not sa. If you look for love, marriage go to match, pof, church, dog park ect. But don't go on sa looking for love, you will not find it, be safe and just play the sa game and have funTruth bomb right here.
JustinFields
10-23-21, 13:10
Also, the other guy who said,
"Or fuck her boyfriend 3 times a week for free.
She will ghost you and choose her boyfriend. You are transactional her boyfriend is validated."
So, in this scenario, she is dating "a chad" or an "alpha" but I am also fucking this "chad's" or "alpha's" girlfriend and he doesn't know it. Well, is he still a chad or alpha, if his girlfriend is giving up her ass to me for my chump change on the side? Seems pretty weak and cucky to me if your girlfriend puts her ass in the air to me for my leftover $. The scenario is ridiculous because you're saying she will ghost me and chooser her boyfriend. But didn't she just choose me and ghost her boyfriend as soon as I placed a bid? That's what I am saying, the way some guys think about these things is as stupid as the way some chick thinks astrology and "Scorpios" or "Cancers." Anyone can punch a million holes in it and it's just what weak minded people choose to believe because they cannot handle the truth.The guy doesn't have to be a Chad but she perceives him to be of higher value than you are. You are paying to fuck her pussy and she is giving it for free to the other guy. You need money to fuck her and he doesn't. It doesn't mean he is better than you, but she perceives him to be of higher value. You are paying and he isn't. Woman cheat all the time without the guy paying, at least she is getting paid. You can't call Chad a cuck if he has no knowledge of it.
Next time you are paying your 500 ppm ask the girl if she would like to see you without ppm and see what happens.
When I am paying ppm I know the girl doesn't see me as a Chad it is impossible. That being said I don't give a fuck because I am going to get my nut off and have a good time.
JustinFields
10-23-21, 13:13
I don't know why some guys don't understand SA, SA is a market place where girls go on there to sell their pussy and guys go on there to buy pussy, it not that much different from amazon or ebay, the only really different is the sellers can refuse to sell you her pussy, you maybe get luck and get a fat old ladies pussy for free but idk, I don't go there, everything on sa is transactional, nothing is free. maybe you can ask a seller on amazon or ebay to sell you free products and see what they will said.
If hot young girls want to have sex, they just don't go on sa and find some old guys to fuck for free, they just don't do that, hot young coed go to college bar, club, party ect to find guys and have sex for free, not sa. If you look for love, marriage go to match, pof, church, dog park ect. But don't go on sa looking for love, you will not find it, be safe and just play the sa game and have fun95% of the time you are right, that being said woman break rules for certain guys and make rules for everyone else.
The 10's are going to be harder to fuck for free but I have fucked young 6's and 7's for free off of SA. I would have posted links of girls I fucked for free but They will get bombarded and I will get out on blast so I can't do that. But I agree if the girl is young and hot it is going to be very hard!
A couple I'm dumping for better options.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e70086b6-186f-46ca-890a-861671dd6744
Private pics are smoking, but so is her price tag. Claims her last provided $6 k monthly. Moving on.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3fb9a27c-6c85-4506-8a73-10c3b6a7dd2c
Met and real life not as good as pics. Never got to discuss money, but she's nice and knows how this works.
https://members.seeking.com/member/9f9d5f6c-d4f4-42c2-b60c-091b3e4976a8
Sweet girl who says she used to get between 4-6 for ppm but can't host. Also covered FS no anal. I'd probably do it but getting hotel isn't worth it.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a8498588-8c23-4692-9630-b04ba8d32b58
DTF but her schedule doesn't work and likely can't host. I never went to text so not much else to add.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ad8afdcb-91ad-4f46-abe4-165a6bcee390
Experienced and dtf but can't host. She said she did monthly before but willing to do ppm. I don't remember if we talked $ because I moved on to better pursuits.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ae1480dd-678b-47cb-9a43-a869083543f2
I like this one but she has a real job that requires her to be available and she doesn't want married due to the drama. Probably a good lead for young single guy but older probably need to flash $.
I'm kinda running out and getting jaded but the unicorn search continues.
95% of the time you are right, that being said woman break rules for certain guys and make rules for everyone else.
The 10's are going to be harder to fuck for free but I have fucked young 6's and 7's for free off of SA. I would have posted links of girls I fucked for free but They will get bombarded and I will get out on blast so I can't do that. But I agree if the girl is young and hot it is going to be very hard!This is why I don't share specifics because the girls I've met are often alittle bit more selective and they have told me they only meet a handful of guys per month, if that. If I were to air out the details on here, I'd get outed.
I'm kinda running out and getting jaded but the unicorn search continues.Let your membership expire and don't sign up again for another 3-4 months or atleast until / if things start going back to normal and opening up again.
The amount of women on here asking for $500 to get dinner or 1 K PPM is ridiculous and alot of them are pretty average all things considered.
I just got suspended recently and I'm one strike away from being banned.
I keep it PG in the messages so I'm not sure what I did but this is getting ridiculous, now I'm going to have to make phone calls just to not incriminate myself. I have a feeling sooner or later within the next 3-5 years SA will get banned or something will happen to it, now that its becoming more mainstream and the karens are going to start coming out and complaining about the patriarchy.
Has anyone had any success find SBs via other avenues? I've had girls tell me they've had older guys approach them in public or when they were working as waitresses / bartenders but I feel like if I were to do that I'd get #MeToo'd.
Wish I was making 6 figures in 2009 and 2010 when backpage was rippin!
Renegade82
10-23-21, 17:10
Just want to know if anyone else has hook up with her. Hit me up love to share experiences.
JustinFields
10-23-21, 17:27
This one is a pro. She used to be in River Grove out of a hotel 6 and now appears to be playing the SB role.
https://members.seeking.com/member/f78bd527-c8eb-407d-9445-f31b77d6f8ff
JustinFields
10-23-21, 17:38
What the hell is going on? I know everyone says it is guys from traditional dating apps coming in and it is more competitive, but what I am noticing is there are alot less girls that are actually active or online.
I thought things would have opened up now with the opening of Covid but it still hasn't happen.
JustinFields
10-23-21, 18:11
Extremely desperate to meet. Anyone partake? I thought about it but she is too far from me. I am sure half the forum has been with her being how desperate she is to meet.
https://members.seeking.com/member/9c0a1b52-a10c-497a-bcbb-d1dafc861296
RusselJimmies
10-23-21, 19:26
If that is true then address any of my questions.The questions from your original post (s) betray a total lack of understanding of how the sexual marketplace functions and are loaded with assumptions that were not implied by the OP, but sure let's review:
"that paying for girls when younger prevents development of the hunting instinct (game)" Bro, for wanting to drop some truth, that is some pseudoscientific nonsense. I could just as easily say that young dudes gain experience they otherwise would not have when they do this.It just depends on the guy. If we're talking about an incel then ofc paying for it would give them valuable experience and a level of comfort around attractive women that they couldn't otherwise have. If we're talking about a reasonably attractive young guy with decent social skills then paying for it could indeed be counterproductive.
1.) If what that original poster had said was true, then he, a guy at older age, would have "developed" that "instinct" for "the game" by now. Instead, he's hoping for an economic crash because it might increase his odds that he can score some young pussy. Well, why hasn't he "developed" that "instinct" for "the game" by now, if what he said was true? Shouldn't he have reached older age with such developed instincts that he doesn't need to use SA anymore? Shouldn't he be able to charm some coed out of her panties by now if what he was saying was really the way things worked. Sadly, "alpha" "beta" "instincts" "nature", it's all just stupid shit that people say, and it's not real. Yeah, it's what people believe and feel but just because you believe something strongly doesn't make it true.None of that follows. First of all "instincts" are not learned, but innate behaviors. Natural chads have solid instincts that they build upon, whereas PUAs learn to emulate and accentuate chad behaviors. Nobody develops instincts or learns to emulate those instincts without a conscious investment of time, energy, trial, and error. Getting older doesn't mean you automatically learn game, even if you had a bunch of partners. Dumb argument.
And not everything needs to be a fucking peer-reviewed scientific study. Try using your own God-given mental faculties instead of outsourcing your opinions to whoever has a distinguished suffix appended to their name.
Sadly, "alpha" "beta" "instincts" "nature", it's all just stupid shit that people say, and it's not real.Lolwut? Instincts and nature aren't real? And yeah "alpha" and "beta" are just reductive classifiers for dominant and pushover personalities that we all intuitively understand. Some autists perhaps take these concepts too far and reify them as concrete realities, but that doesn't make them any less valid.
Yeah, it's what people believe and feel but just because you believe something strongly doesn't make it true.That goes just as well for everything you said, so it adds nothing to your argument.
2.) The entire argument makes it seem like humanity's current state of sex and relationships were the same in the past as they are now. Not true. Go back a few hundred years ago and did people get married or have sex for love or attraction? No, people got married and had sex to increase their family wealth. It was basically a transaction that went along the liens of "I'll have claim on some of your family's wealth and in return, you can fuck my daughter.This is purely ahistorical gibberish based on idiotic feminist revisionism, as if women never had any agency or freedom until Gloria Steinem appeared. You think courtship wasn't a thing a couple hundred years ago? Or a couple thousand years ago? Just because some cultures and classes arranged marriages doesn't change the fact that men and women interacted socially, expressed mutual attraction, fucked, married, cheated, etc. And what kind of men do you think those women of the past were attracted to? Dominant men of higher status, it's literally that simple.
So yeah, another pants-on-head retarded argument on your part.
I agree that there are lots of factors as to why people are attracted to each other. But look, if your value as a man to other is determined by your ability to attract women then why do so many "leaders" need to pay for it?You think the fact that leaders sometimes pay for it means they're not getting it for free or being constantly propositioned? These are not mutually exclusive whatsoever.
I could go on and on about how any of this stuff doesn't have to do with evolution because people having only been hooking up, marrying, and having kids because of "attraction" or "love" for a short amount of time.Attraction is not the same thing as love, and humans have been doing all those things because of attraction for as long as there have been humans. I don't even know where you get some of these dumb ideas from. Try reading a book written before 1900 sometime.
I am just saying that people who are critical of people connecting sex with money or claim that "it's weak" are not being historical and they are not even looking at the present right.I know you weren't replying to me here but I'm certainly not saying any of that.
If that were true, why do so many powerful people, young and old, still have transactional sex? Why do people like Jeffrey Epstein exist? Is Donald Trump weak? Bill Clinton? Bill Gates? Anyone tied up with that scandal?Agreed. But it doesn't follow from any of this that the alpha / beta or chad / virgin hierarchy isn't a massive factor in attracting women.
I don't need a fancy degree to see through that silliness, just some common sense. "The experts" you are calling so-called is basically everything that is known about science and the history of people. It's not some small group of professors. It's the sum total of human knowledge. That's why what you're saying is so stupid. The world doesn't work that way. Shit isn't true just because you believe it. If people thought like that, you wouldn't be typing on a computer. If you think you can stick your finger in a light socket only because a "so-called expert" says you cannot, then have at it, bruh.Yeah, you need other people's fancy degrees to tell you what to think. And frankly you are not even aware of what those various credentialed people are saying, or the current state of the debate in academia, like even a little bit. Most likely you've been impressed by the infity articles from lefty journo hacks on how the manosphere is toxic pseudoscience.
In other words you're being a propaganda parrot for an agenda you don't even comprehend. But yeah dude, human history and sexual dynamics are totally like scientific theories of gravity and electricity. There's no epistemological distance there at all 🤣.
Also, " If she's regularly seeing you for $5 ppm she probably turned down and ignored dozens of higher offers for $6, $7, and up. " This might be the statement of a "simp" after all because bro, she is going to fuck you for $5 and then she is going to fuck the others too $6, $7, and up, and she is going to make all that $. Let me get this straight, what you're saying is, basically, you think the girls you pay $5 for sex actually like you and are not doing it for the money? Bruh, you're in a category called "chump" if you believe that.Bro, if you never learned how to distinguish between real and solely-financial attraction from a girl, then you're clearly the chump here.
Btw, bro, you're using a board about SA and transactional sex to discourage young guys from using SA and having transactional sex. It's like your "inner Taliban," which might be as real as your so-called "instinct" is fighting with your need to use SA. If you don't need it, don't use it. You do you. But I'll just say that everything you said, could have been said by Tom Dart, and I cannot help but wonder if that's you behind the screen, Tommy.That's someone else, I'm not discouraging shit. As for all the "right-wing Taliban" crap maybe stop regurgitating basic bi*ch MSNPC memes, for fuck's sake. No clue who Tom Dart is or why he's relevant to anything.
BTW I've focused on your comments because they're some of the dumbest shit ITT, but frankly there are a lot of other posters here with their heads up their asses. Sadly (or not) I've got hot babes who need fucking, so their takedowns will have to wait.
In the sa world girls on there to get paid for their pussy, and that's what theyall want, your money for her pussy.
In the real world, anything can happen you can be older like her boss, manager, older friends of the family, ect but not 70's tho, and you may get lucky and fuck a 20's-30's years old for free, but the situations have to be perfect, or your world have to be in perfect order for that to happen. You see it all the time, manager / boss fucking employee, law makers fucking intern, secretary ect. Old movies star or rock stars fuck young followers, but the real real world is not the sa world, yes if you are a 40's year old rock star movie star you can fuck young 20's girls fan for free, again that's not the sa world.
so if you want to fuck hot young coed on sa, expected to paid her, if you want to fuck fat old ladies on sa, you may or may not get lucky, and personal number scale mean nothing because one man number 10, can be another man number 4, so personal number scale is useless
JackMeehan
10-24-21, 00:20
This one is a pro. She used to be in River Grove out of a hotel 6 and now appears to be playing the SB role.
https://members.seeking.com/member/f78bd527-c8eb-407d-9445-f31b77d6f8ffhttps://tiaano.net/cassy-3/
Al Melrose
10-24-21, 00:24
In the sa world girls on there to get paid for their pussy, and that's what theyall want, your money for her pussy.
In the real world, anything can happen you can be older like her boss, manager, older friends of the family, ect but not 70's tho, and you may get lucky and fuck a 20's-30's years old for free, but the situations have to be perfect, or your world have to be in perfect order for that to happen. You see it all the time, manager / boss fucking employee, law makers fucking intern, secretary ect. Old movies star or rock stars fuck young followers, but the real real world is not the sa world, yes if you are a 40's year old rock star movie star you can fuck young 20's girls fan for free, again that's not the sa world.
so if you want to fuck hot young coed on sa, expected to paid her, if you want to fuck fat old ladies on sa, you may or may not get lucky, and personal number scale mean nothing because one man number 10, can be another man number 4, so personal number scale is uselessWell this happened a few years ago. I can't even get a M&G these days. I also must be blocked by a bunch since I click on links and see girls I have never seen before.
Second meet, and greet, I ever had, she recommended hotel since we could talk in private,(darn was I clueless) asked me to bring booze. Pics very deceptive, weirdly shaped huge bottom half. Ended up fucking. I was waiting for her to ask for cash but nothing. Later started texting asking to meet, but wanted an arrangement, so I guess she threw out a freebie hoping to get money later. Just too big.
Started to figure out how SA worked and started getting some play. Hit a slump and called in a slump buster. A little bit chunky not too big, but pretty boring fuck. Also wanted a strange amount $170, I guess she didn't want to be a $150 girl. She kept contacting me, I kept coming up with excuses on why I could not meet. Finally I told her I lost my job and could not afford it any more.
She invited me to her house for free. I went but afterwards got the impression she wanted a bf / gf relationship. I bailed.
Hit another slump and wow fucked the fattest chick I ever fucked. I hated myself and changed my burner number.
But now I can't even get fat chicks to accept my money. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Time to hit the AMPs or apartments. I am useless on SA right now.
Just want to know if anyone else has hook up with her. Hit me up love to share experiences.Did you meet her? She msg'd me the other day and said she was in florida.
What the hell is going on? I know everyone says it is guys from traditional dating apps coming in and it is more competitive, but what I am noticing is there are alot less girls that are actually active or online.
I thought things would have opened up now with the opening of Covid but it still hasn't happen.Its slow AF here in NJ / NYC too. Its why I'm letting it expire this month and I'm just going to focus on other things for a few months. I think we've hit peak dating apps and they reached market penetration. Everyone knows its a waste of time on both ends of the gender spectrum. The youngest millenials are about to be in their early 30s and i think there are alot less gen Z'ers in general. in the next 10 years there is going to be a huge drop off in the population of SBs due to demographics and falling birth rates!
I truly believe there is something ominous going on with society right now and people are just checking out in general. were closing in on almost 2 years of social isolation and economic devastation and alot of people are just zonking out. when all the money the government gave these people to sit home and do nothing runs out along with food shortages becoming more normal, expect it to pickup.
unless the biden admin decides to do another round of stimulus
ApplePiePussy
10-24-21, 11:45
Did you meet her? She msg'd me the other day and said she was in florida.
Its slow AF here in NJ / NYC too. Its why I'm letting it expire this month and I'm just going to focus on other things for a few months. I think we've hit peak dating apps and they reached market penetration. Everyone knows its a waste of time on both ends of the gender spectrum. The youngest millenials are about to be in their early 30s and i think there are alot less gen Z'ers in general. in the next 10 years there is going to be a huge drop off in the population of SBs due to demographics and falling birth rates!
I truly believe there is something ominous going on with society right now and people are just checking out in general. were closing in on almost 2 years of social isolation and economic devastation and alot of people are just zonking out. when all the money the government gave these people to sit home and do nothing runs out along with food shortages becoming more normal, expect it to pickup.
unless the biden admin decides to do another round of stimulusI don't think it's anything ominous. I drove through the city last night and it felt like everyone under 40 was out and about. Everything was packed. I feel like nobody wants to be home on the computer right now. They all want to be out partying after being home for 2 years.
What made her not as attractive in real life? Based on her SA pics, she is totally my type! I'd love any additional info you'd care to share. PM is fine.
Scott.
Just want to know if anyone else has hook up with her. Hit me up love to share experiences.I wouldn't worry about competition because it seems those legs lock like a German engineered trap. So if you've hooked up, tell us how it went. We're living vicariously through you.
I wouldn't worry about competition because it seems those legs lock like a German engineered trap. So if you've hooked up, tell us how it went. We're living vicariously through you.Somebody doesn't understand the purpose of this site.
https://tiaano.net/cassy-3/She's been around for some time now / Backpage days. I saw her maybe 6 years ago.
I also must be blocked by a bunch since I click on links and see girls I have never seen before.If you were blocked you wouldn't be able to see their profiles from the links. Some girls hide their profile from the search engine and only contact men they are interested in. Guys can do that too through the settings page. That way you don't get so many scam messages. The only thing is if you view someone's profile they can see that you viewed them.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a61f67f4-c2f8-4b59-92a3-8e06644bf084
Young, tight, bb with recent test results pull out method, very annoying though. Gives a lot of resistance on things like making out or giving head. But nice thin teen body with nice ass and young tits. Again kind of annoying. Decent face. 300 for 1. 5 hrs.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a61f67f4-c2f8-4b59-92a3-8e06644bf084
Young, tight, bb with recent test results pull out method, very annoying though. Gives a lot of resistance on things like making out or giving head. But nice thin teen body with nice ass and young tits. Again kind of annoying. Decent face. 300 for 1. 5 hrs.She's messaging me now and trying to make me see her while she's on her period LOL.
Also, Anastasia https://members.seeking.com/member/6c0ab00e-e6a3-41ac-a84a-12d9cafb69e0 is a scammer. Wants a deposit.
Alessia - https://members.seeking.com/member/f96f856d-f7d8-4377-b2ad-697215a9209a - Wants online only, useless.
Bald - https://members.seeking.com/member/23fd9c8d-5bf6-454e-a635-49313f0010ab - Wants 300, drives and is willing to meet. She's not my type so I didn't bite, but she's def open-minded. She sent me a pic of her tits, they are fantastic.
ChicagoGoer
10-25-21, 23:09
https://members.seeking.com/member/a9febf3a-6e80-4dd7-b3fb-ed97872bbfa5
Taller than 5'8, built soild not thin. Cannot host and not really mobile. Further away from city than location listed on SA. BBJ but no CIM. Down for BBFS and CIP if you can provide recent test. Due to distance and not really my type, will not repeat. No, not sharing her number. Asked for 5 but came down to 3.
ChicagoGoer
10-25-21, 23:11
https://members.seeking.com/member/a61f67f4-c2f8-4b59-92a3-8e06644bf084
Young, tight, bb with recent test results pull out method, very annoying though. Gives a lot of resistance on things like making out or giving head. But nice thin teen body with nice ass and young tits. Again kind of annoying. Decent face. 300 for 1. 5 hrs.Shoot, I had hopes for this one. Seemed pretty open minded but I can't live without decent oral. Hit me with she is on her period too this morning.
Thanks for saving me 300.
GetOnUrKnees
10-26-21, 01:12
https://members.seeking.com/member/a9febf3a-6e80-4dd7-b3fb-ed97872bbfa5
Taller than 5'8, built soild not thin. Cannot host and not really mobile. Further away from city than location listed on SA. BBJ but no CIM. Down for BBFS and CIP if you can provide recent test. Due to distance and not really my type, will not repeat. No, not sharing her number. Asked for 5 but came down to 3.Saw her a few times in April 2021. Cute face and makes good eye contact always. Makes you feel like a bf when you are with her. Curve why but body not the tightest. First meet picked her up at apt in Lombard, straight to hotel. 300 and spent 2 hrs with me talks a lot. BBBJ cfs cim. The meets after that she took 200 for same amount of time LOL. Have to say she's not all there in the head and gets upset over the smallest things. Good GFE tho.
For those of you not following other threads about Bonnie Belle and her various aliases, be careful since she's a ripoff artist now:
https://members.seeking.com/member/6352babc-682a-40a5-b42e-dac7e23c1f1d
Shoot, I had hopes for this one. Seemed pretty open minded but I can't live without decent oral. Hit me with she is on her period too this morning.
Thanks for saving me 300.Worth noting she gave me head and it was pretty good but she was very fussy about giving it. YMMV.
For those of you not following other threads about Bonnie Belle and her various aliases, be careful since she's a ripoff artist now:
https://members.seeking.com/member/6352babc-682a-40a5-b42e-dac7e23c1f1dI had the weirdest experience with her. Showed up to her incall. She let me in and we got to talking. And talking.. And talking. This chick basically doesn't know when to stfu. Eventually, we got comfy, took my pants off, and got started with some BBBJ. Her head game was great, but, about 10 minutes in she stopped and looked at her phone. Then she told me she's got to step outside to "pick up some bud from a friend" and told me to wait for her. I waited there like an idiot for 5-10 min before texting / calling her to see what's up. She texted back saying sorry that she's running late but she'll make it up to me when she's back. I waited another 5 min and just jacked off instead, got dressed, then dipped. I got in my car and decided to wait around a little longer to see if she showed up soon. She eventually texted me back saying she's almost back, but that she's bringing a friend and to act cool (LOL WTF). Another car pulls up and some dude in the passenger seat is giving me the fucking eye. I decide to gtfo of there so I leave the parking lot, but I was still curious so I went around the block and then pulled up on a nearby street where I had full view of the motel including her room. Eventually nothing came of it and I decided to leave. She texted me a week later asking if I wanted to meet up again and explaining how she was so sorry for not making it back in time. She said she wanted to make videos as well this time and shared her archive of her fucking her ex bb.
Stay away from this nut case LOL.
Golden Pussy Syndrome is alive and well. This hottie is looking for a MINIMUM of $800. And cannot host. I tried enticing with different things and nope. And even asked for 1 hr (which I almost NEVER ask for). Still $800 minimum.
https://members.seeking.com/member/65c4e79b-fb64-4385-a7f0-1a203ff79db7
All you ultra rich guys. Hit her up and report on whether she's worth it. Maybe she somehow has extra holes to justify the GPS. Or maybe her pussy is really lined with 24 carrot.
RusselJimmies
10-26-21, 15:12
Golden Pussy Syndrome is alive and well. This hottie is looking for a MINIMUM of $800. And cannot host. I tried enticing with different things and nope. And even asked for 1 hr (which I almost NEVER ask for). Still $800 minimum.
https://members.seeking.com/member/65c4e79b-fb64-4385-a7f0-1a203ff79db7
All you ultra rich guys. Hit her up and report on whether she's worth it. Maybe she somehow has extra holes to justify the GPS. Or maybe her pussy is really lined with 24 carrot.Tbf $8 isn't that bad for a dime, especially if she's not on the clock. Assuming pics are accurate I may take the plunge.
ShyBoy2020
10-26-21, 15:21
Juicy Zess.
https://members.seeking.com/member/cd755c03-45fa-439b-9c07-b74e1544683c
She a pro.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/69075351#.
ABrooksLux.
https://members.seeking.com/member/532313cd-642a-485c-8a62-5237fa9c5315
She also a pro.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/69190409#.
MwmChicago
10-26-21, 15:42
Hooked up with my first SA date last night. Came to my place from Naperville, 22 y / o cute Mexican, medium build. We started DFK 5 minutes after she got there and moved quickly to sucking her tits which she really likes, DATY and BBFS within 5 minutes. Went hard at it for about 45-50 minutes in several positions but she would allow CIP and refused a BJ so we made out while she gave me a HJ. Decent time but shitty ending. Sorry, not going to share this one just yet as I want to bang her a few times but will soon.
Have one from Wheaton that's supposed to come over tonight. She texted me from SA but that was 20 days ago and now can't find her profile. Wants $200 for an hour but she's really fucking hot so I'm skeptical.
Tbf $8 isn't that bad for a dime, especially if she's not on the clock. Assuming pics are accurate I may take the plunge.Sweet. See if you can take some good photos and let a few of us live vicariously through you! LOL.
If you need her number, DM me.
Have any of you had any luck procuring sb in the wild or through other means than sugar sites?
Sooner or later these sites are going to get shut down and I want to manage risk.
RusselJimmies
10-26-21, 17:14
Have any of you had any luck procuring sb in the wild or through other means than sugar sites?
Sooner or later these sites are going to get shut down and I want to manage risk.I've had a number of SBs mention relationships that began that way, but I've never attempted it myself. No doubt it can be done the same as pickup, just slip a "you look familiar, have you ever had a dating profile on Seeking?" into the conversation. Maybe even as an opener 🤣
I've had a number of SBs mention relationships that began that way, but I've never attempted it myself. No doubt it can be done the same as pickup, just slip a "you look familiar, have you ever had a dating profile on Seeking?" into the conversation. Maybe even as an opener 🤣Yep, I've hd girls mention this to me as well. I don't have the balls to do it. Thanks #MeToo.
RusselJimmies
10-26-21, 17:49
Yep, I've hd girls mention this to me as well. I don't have the balls to do it. Thanks #MeToo.Just do it, metoo is more of a lesson in shitting where you eat ie. Don't mix work and pleasure.
Renegade82
10-26-21, 17:51
I'm pretty sure more guys have seeing her and well spoiled it for everyone else. It took a lot of work to see her. She is not quick to respond but I bet her mailbox is flooded with offers. Her range is 5-1 k. She use to do lower but per her she was fucked over by a guy who only gave her 100. I hate when they ask how much because I don't like trying to bid against my self, so instead I counter with well what are your rules and base on that I give my offer. I initially offered 250 which she snapped off about her value, so be worn. As far as looks, I think she has a cute face but her eye brows are a little thick. She does have a sexy accent. She doesn't have much of a body tits are saggy. You have to take the lead because she is reserved. I know German so I did get her to talk dirty in German for me. I enjoyed her BJ it was aggressive and juicy. She does swallow. Pussy was good but not the tightest I had. Overall not sure I will repeat, I have girls that cost half of that and are freaks. Any question be happy to answer just send me a message.
Thanks.
ChrisHansen92
10-26-21, 18:05
She's going to get. Not from you or me. But she will. Desperate simp's with no social skills, looks or game. Or a business traveler on an expense account from the left or right coast in town for the night consider 800 for this one a bargain. She's probably getting it several times a week. Just move on to the next.
Golden Pussy Syndrome is alive and well. This hottie is looking for a MINIMUM of $800. And cannot host. I tried enticing with different things and nope. And even asked for 1 hr (which I almost NEVER ask for). Still $800 minimum.
https://members.seeking.com/member/65c4e79b-fb64-4385-a7f0-1a203ff79db7
All you ultra rich guys. Hit her up and report on whether she's worth it. Maybe she somehow has extra holes to justify the GPS. Or maybe her pussy is really lined with 24 carrot.
JustinFields
10-26-21, 18:53
Juicy Zess.
https://members.seeking.com/member/cd755c03-45fa-439b-9c07-b74e1544683c
She a pro.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/69075351#.
ABrooksLux.
https://members.seeking.com/member/532313cd-642a-485c-8a62-5237fa9c5315
She also a pro.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/69190409#.I probably would turn them down even if they offered me a freebie.
I'm pretty sure more guys have seeing her and well spoiled it for everyone else. It took a lot of work to see her. She is not quick to respond but I bet her mailbox is flooded with offers. Her range is 5-1 k. She use to do lower but per her she was fucked over by a guy who only gave her 100. I hate when they ask how much because I don't like trying to bid against my self, so instead I counter with well what are your rules and base on that I give my offer. I initially offered 250 which she snapped off about her value, so be worn. As far as looks, I think she has a cute face but her eye brows are a little thick. She does have a sexy accent. She doesn't have much of a body tits are saggy. You have to take the lead because she is reserved. I know German so I did get her to talk dirty in German for me. I enjoyed her BJ it was aggressive and juicy. She does swallow. Pussy was good but not the tightest I had. Overall not sure I will repeat, I have girls that cost half of that and are freaks. Any question be happy to answer just send me a message.
Thanks.See, how hard was this? This man has done us all a great service. I'll save my money now.
BTW I hate it when they ask for our bid before meeting. Like you want me to price off your pic? I try to get them to tell me what they've got in the past and cut $100-$200 off of that.
Member #6323
10-26-21, 20:51
Watchout, she is back. Escort thread she went under Kris or Kris K.
https://members.seeking.com/member/404889d0-7198-4999-a4c0-3329f34ab936Guys, please watch out for this person. Please please please stay away. If anyone wants details they can pm me.
Renegade82
10-26-21, 20:59
Anyone have info on this girl? Can you message me.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5201a766-54a4-426b-8207-afcb0da1a7b1
Guys, please watch out for this person. Please please please stay away. If anyone wants details they can pm me.She's been mentioned here before and in the escorts thread. Guys said she's nuts.
SA down tonight or anyone having issues? I can't seen to view it. I wonder if I got banned. LOL.
TimeForPlay10
10-27-21, 08:14
SA down tonight or anyone having issues? I can't seen to view it. I wonder if I got banned. LOL.I don't know if it was down last night but I can access this am.
I don't know if it was down last night but I can access this am.Keeps saying I logged in from separate location and need to verify. But code takes forever to get sent via email. Clearly something is up with their servers.
StanCopier
10-27-21, 11:18
I notice both of Kate's profiles no longer exist, anyone have an idea if she created another profile or is she out?
I've had the site unable to load a couple times in the past. Thought I was banned too LOL. But I cleared my browser cache and that fixed it.
SA down tonight or anyone having issues? I can't seen to view it. I wonder if I got banned. LOL.
MwmChicago
10-27-21, 15:23
I met a hot young redhead on Doublelist.com about 20 months ago. She's 31 and I'm 58, so young for me. Natural redhead too with big tits and ass. We were fucking about 3-4 times a month for about 6 months but she got Covid in July of 202 and ghosted me until about 6 weeks ago. I've banged her 3 times since we reconnected. Sex is amazing and she cums over and over and squirts too. And we bang with no protection. Total Unicorn!
I give her a half ounce of weed which costs me less than $100 and we generally fuck for 3-4 hours. I banged her hard last Fri and woke up Sun sore as fuck! Now when I interact with younger women I'm thinking SB in the back of my head.
Have any of you had any luck procuring sb in the wild or through other means than sugar sites?
Sooner or later these sites are going to get shut down and I want to manage risk.
She's going to get. Not from you or me. But she will. Desperate simp's with no social skills, looks or game. Or a business traveler on an expense account from the left or right coast in town for the night consider 800 for this one a bargain. She's probably getting it several times a week. Just move on to the next.Here's another that wants 1 k and is not flexible with that amount.
https://members.seeking.com/member/098ecca4-5b12-4bf2-8138-186029254fe0
Feel free to DM me for her number.
This one wants $1 K / meet too. At least she wasn't a d-bag when I told her no.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/archive/029ad76a-975f-4e11-9f67-7c3ffc9ae6e0
Here's another that wants 1 k and is not flexible with that amount.
https://members.seeking.com/member/098ecca4-5b12-4bf2-8138-186029254fe0
Feel free to DM me for her number.
She's going to get. Not from you or me. But she will. Desperate simp's with no social skills, looks or game. Or a business traveler on an expense account from the left or right coast in town for the night consider 800 for this one a bargain. She's probably getting it several times a week. Just move on to the next.
I notice both of Kate's profiles no longer exist, anyone have an idea if she created another profile or is she out?I noticed that too (had one of the profiles under favorites), and I don't think there's a new profile. Unless she created it with completely different attributes (age, build etc.). That's too bad, I was thinking of reconnecting, but don't have her Snap any more either.
This one wants $1 K / meet too. At least she wasn't a d-bag when I told her no.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/archive/029ad76a-975f-4e11-9f67-7c3ffc9ae6e0Looks like that's a link to your chat with her. Can you send the link to her main profile page?
Corrected link. .
This one wants $1 K / meet too. At least she wasn't a d-bag when I told her no.
https://members.seeking.com/member/cbc1e431-a6a6-4c51-97b4-c58092febdd0
Hey I Got booted off the site and now every time I try to log back in with a new account and pay for a membership I automatically get my account suspended tried new emails different credit cards does anybody have any suggestions on way around this.
Hey I Got booted off the site and now every time I try to log back in with a new account and pay for a membership I automatically get my account suspended tried new emails different credit cards does anybody have any suggestions on way around this.Did you reach out to tech support?
you need to not say anything inappropriate on the site itself and move the convo off the site.
That topic has been discussed ad nauseam on the board. Search and you'll find all the tips and suggestions.
Hey I Got booted off the site and now every time I try to log back in with a new account and pay for a membership I automatically get my account suspended tried new emails different credit cards does anybody have any suggestions on way around this.
Renegade82
10-28-21, 15:31
Anyone have info on this girl? You can message me directly.
She was mentioned in an inbox dump a few pages back by someone else here who speculated she might be a pro or semi pro. I'm not sure what she is. She's doesn't seem desperate but after a coffee seems dtf.
Asked for 8. Lowest she'll go is 5. Very sexy but I might pass as that's just out of my range. Others can be had for roughly half.
https://members.seeking.com/member/f06fdf2c-2fb1-4751-a789-681a0d75868d
DM me please if you've seen her and can vouch for her in person optics and service.
Golden Pussy Syndrome is alive and well. This hottie is looking for a MINIMUM of $800. And cannot host. I tried enticing with different things and nope. And even asked for 1 hr (which I almost NEVER ask for). Still $800 minimum.
https://members.seeking.com/member/65c4e79b-fb64-4385-a7f0-1a203ff79db7
All you ultra rich guys. Hit her up and report on whether she's worth it. Maybe she somehow has extra holes to justify the GPS. Or maybe her pussy is really lined with 24 carrot.It's only Golden Pussy Syndrome of the pussy isn't Golden. I guess this is just pussy syndrome?
CallmeLiz. Pic seller.
https://members.seeking.com/member/91a9a3b9-1f53-4145-b1ae-7c7c336893e3
It's only Golden Pussy Syndrome of the pussy isn't Golden. I guess this is just pussy syndrome?LOL!
75% sure she's got man-mades. I maintain "GPS" and not "PS"
Hey I Got booted off the site and now every time I try to log back in with a new account and pay for a membership I automatically get my account suspended tried new emails different credit cards does anybody have any suggestions on way around this.The same happened to me. What ultimately helped was to:
1. Backup everything on my apple account.
2 Create a new apple account.
3. Reset my iphone and use the new account, w / new apple I'd and everything.
4. Use new email.
5. Use new credit card.
Hope this helps.
Jjt.
Its pretty sad when chicks in their mid to late 30's who have clearly hit the wall are literally asking for pics and venmo.
I hope they shut down *.
also..seeing lots more trannys as well.
Member #6323
10-28-21, 21:04
Its pretty sad when chicks in their mid to late 30's who have clearly hit the wall are literally asking for pics and venmo.
I hope they shut down *.COVID brought a lot of people out of the woodwork. Suddenly, every girl has a snapchat, only fans, and twitter and are selling everything from pics to panties to fly me to you.
Anyone have info on this girl? You can message me directly.This is the profile:
https://members.seeking.com/member/5201a766-54a4-426b-8207-afcb0da1a7b1
I have no specific info but I think there are some posts in the forum.
She's set on 3 k allowance and wouldn't budge.
https://members.seeking.com/member/893cf72a-2347-4f10-a6a2-1c063730ec43
Glencoe Blonde.
Pic / Video seller. Says she's not even in the USA right now.
https://members.seeking.com/member/da7026a1-dec2-4184-90a5-55ce2cb150b6
JustinFields
10-30-21, 14:52
Never really have experience with any pros, that being said some of the girls from SA that I have been with I suspect to be pros.
Everyone is difference but is there a difference in.
Price?
Multiple pops?
GFE experience?
Time spent?
Does it feel more transactional with pros?
You figure getting a pro to cum is probably much harder being they are seeing multiple dudes a day and don't want any sensitivity down there.
How have you experiences been when comparing pros to SA girls that do ppm?
The psycho homeless blonde is back on SA:
https://members.seeking.com/member/4aabfc8d-78c7-4221-a038-c10f7ed5d3a6
Based on what others have said, stay away from her.
I love you guys but I really hate writing. Not only am I giving reviews because I want to share, at this point, I have forgotten a lot of these girls. So I can look back reminded.
https://onlyfans.com/swickedbeauty
Is.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4aabfc8d-78c7-4221-a038-c10f7ed5d3a6
I just reviewed her a week or two ago. She is real crazy. I only recommend if you know how to handle that. Decent lay but the amount of headache you will deal with in a short time. Up to you. She will continue to make new accounts because of her mental illness. Her * is free. Get use to her face.
https://members.seeking.com/member/0320681d-dd34-46b6-bb77-a995ff49c9d5
Way older than I would like but a good girl. She is open to a lot of things. $300 had fun but I am looking for a blank slate as a new SB. She is polyamorous, so don't expect gf style from her. But her energy is a refreshing.
https://members.seeking.com/member/68efbac5-84bd-43e0-9202-aaa6c075e41b
Or SN: serenitit637.
Pic and video seller that does meet up when she is in chicago. I did not partake. She wanted $300.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4c14f797-c618-4938-8682-c7a0820086c2
She is located in Kenosha in Wisconsin. My dick is big but not big enough to reach there. I stopped the convo the day she said that. But I'm going for younger.
https://members.seeking.com/member/164518e0-9e4b-4ea2-b5ad-748ed970c346
Saw her a couple times. Non pro. Just a good girl that wants $. $400. I will continue to see her in the upcomingg days. She is a girl you can take out and show off. Way better looking than her pic.
https://members.seeking.com/member/49ffec98-48f5-497b-8481-4d2745b6ea09
I saw her in person but she got cold feet and did not come in to the place we were meeting. She is pretty. Like really pretty. Good luck guys.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e384a121-1135-4bc9-98f6-e35359f8f327
Good latina fun. She will send you pics if you have Snapchat. $300. Ill see her again but only because she is flexible on how to take care of her.
https://members.seeking.com/member/80b716c5-0d52-4a0f-a164-a69ec660108e
It is easier to post her message.
" am doing good, well I am looking for a devoted submissive who wants to be Owned and be called Mine! Someone who is keen and capable to Satisfy, Obey, Worship and Spoil me as his mistress. Are you Interested?
I was not but good luck guys if that is your thing.
https://members.seeking.com/member/1e402fd1-dd3a-4fca-b72f-4a248404a743
I have been seeing her for a while. She is a mom but when you are with her, she is so fun. I highly recommend. You ask her about what she needs because she is in school. I can't speak highly enough. Treat her well.
https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/4eQKnwdY0pr2zyRJjZvO92xL
Her body is amazing. So smart. Slightly flaky but when it comes to bussiness, she is the best. She is the reason I even bother with WYP. $500.
I have a couple more but going to give them all another swing soon. I don't think I will be renew my subs. I have to admit, all of this has been draining on my energy. Only seniors in my inbox. Hope this helped.
Just a heads up to you all.
I am taking a break from this lifestyle as I believe we are heading for some tough times in the next few months with shortages / inflation and other ominous things in our society / economy and want to save some coin. I am tired of dealing with danger zone divas (women in their late 20's and 30's who still think they are in their 20's. LOL).
That being said. When you go to turn off automatic renewal SA now gives you the chance option of turning it off for 1, 2 or 3 months. Then it will automatically re-activate again. The only way around this is to de-activate your account or delete it entirely it seems.
The fact that they are bulling this BS leads me to believe they are having some serious turn-over/churn issues. I was getting quite a few offers for reasonably steep discounts to renew my membership over the summer.
In 2014 SA was about $40 a month to sign up for, now its about a $100 and not worth it, IMO. You're essentially paying for an enhanced version of backpage but they have your credit card info.
SA needs to lower its price or do something to get these pic sellers off their site. its more or less a defacto marketing platform for these gen Z girls and their pic selling business.
I am going to hold off on SA until the pandemic is offiially over (if it ever happens..) or atleast try to. everything fkn sucks these days.
Stay safe guys!
Just a heads up to you all.
I am taking a break from this lifestyle as I believe we are heading for some tough times in the next few months with shortages / inflation and other ominous things in our society / economy and want to save some coin. I am tired of dealing with danger zone divas (women in their late 20's and 30's who still think they are in their 20's. LOL).
That being said. When you go to turn off automatic renewal SA now gives you the chance option of turning it off for 1, 2 or 3 months. Then it will automatically re-activate again. The only way around this is to de-activate your account or delete it entirely it seems.
The fact that they are bulling this BS leads me to believe they are having some serious turn-over/churn issues. I was getting quite a few offers for reasonably steep discounts to renew my membership over the summer.
In 2014 SA was about $40 a month to sign up for, now its about a $100 and not worth it, IMO. You're essentially paying for an enhanced version of backpage but they have your credit card info.
SA needs to lower its price or do something to get these pic sellers off their site. its more or less a defacto marketing platform for these gen Z girls and their pic selling business.Your money and time would be better spent just getting a good old fashioned tried and true escort. No SA membership fees and no monthly payments to these girls.
That being said. When you go to turn off automatic renewal SA now gives you the chance option of turning it off for 1, 2 or 3 months. Then it will automatically re-activate again. The only way around this is to de-activate your account or delete it entirely it seems. No. Just don't take the option to "snooze" your account and continue on with canceling. Your account will still be active for the month you currently paid and it'll go back to a free unpaid account after that. That's what I've always done. I'll upgrade for a month, instantly cancel the auto-renew, and I get 30 days to use messaging. For example right now mine is set to expire on the 4th. After that I still have my account, I just can't send and receive messages. They changed it a month or two ago to make it more confusing, but you can still just jump on and off for as long as you want and keep your account.
Your money and time would be better spent just getting a good old fashioned tried and true escort. No SA membership fees and no monthly payments to these girls.
eh...alot of pros are no good, too many rules
No. Just don't take the option to "snooze" your account and continue on with canceling. Your account will still be active for the month you currently paid and it'll go back to a free unpaid account after that. That's what I've always done. I'll upgrade for a month, instantly cancel the auto-renew, and I get 30 days to use messaging. For example right now mine is set to expire on the 4th. After that I still have my account, I just can't send and receive messages. They changed it a month or two ago to make it more confusing, but you can still just jump on and off for as long as you want and keep your account.Thanks, just looked into it again and it seems like its not available anymore for me. Will be deleting the thing soon most likely.
I'm trying to avoid cash app or venmo transactions showing on my joint bank account.
I've only done a little bit of research, but have not yet determined whether there is a way. I am fine with my credit card statement showing charges.
I would like to know if anyone has ever used a credit card to buy Venmo or zelle gift cards. Or any other options or a solution to preventing cash app Venmo or zell from showing on a bank statement.
Is there anyway to unblock someone on SA?
I can only find a way to unhide someone, but I can't find anything in the settings to unblock someone.
I'm trying to avoid cash app or venmo transactions showing on my joint bank account.
I've only done a little bit of research, but have not yet determined whether there is a way. I am fine with my credit card statement showing charges.
I would like to know if anyone has ever used a credit card to buy Venmo or zelle gift cards. Or any other options or a solution to preventing cash app Venmo or zell from showing on a bank statement.-Have a friend send you money to your CashApp account and use those funds to pay others.
-Obviously you can just create a new bank account and opt out of any paper statements.
-Link your CashApp to a brokerage account like robinhood or fidelity, just use the ACH # and routing #.
Can't unblock someone. You used to be able to do it but some time ago they changed it so blocking is permanent and can't be undone.
Is there anyway to unblock someone on SA?
I can only find a way to unhide someone, but I can't find anything in the settings to unblock someone.
Member #6323
10-31-21, 21:24
Can't unblock someone. You used to be able to do it but some time ago they changed it so blocking is permanent and can't be undone.Furthermore, I am pretty sure that blockings get permanently 'tied' to your email address. I have had several accounts and come and gone from the site and I notice that my new accounts still have the old accounts I blocked 'before' blocked with my new account.
Has anyone heard of a sugar baby forum where the Sbs discuss the SDs? Kind of like the reverse of this forum.
Has anyone heard of a sugar baby forum where the Sbs discuss the SDs? Kind of like the reverse of this forum.I've always wondered this, for years! I even tried searching for one on google but with no success. Must be on out there.
HitMan1783
11-01-21, 07:32
I've always wondered this, for years! I even tried searching for one on google but with no success. Must be on out there.There are groups on Reddit and FB about SD. Don't know how exactly to search them but some girls have told me about them.
SgtSlapaHoe
11-01-21, 08:18
I've always wondered this, for years! I even tried searching for one on google but with no success. Must be on out there.It's not perfectly analogous and not just for SB's, but it's a reasonable approximation. Sexual attraction isn't symmetrical so it makes sense that it's not perfectly analogous. Women don't want to share a high value man but they'll settle for that if they have to. Guys have no problem w a continuous revolving door of SB's. The only thing holding them back from doing that is money.
Has anyone heard of a sugar baby forum where the Sbs discuss the SDs? Kind of like the reverse of this forum.Yes, there are. I was with a tipsy woman from Seeking who admitted that there are several forums discussing and reviewing specific Daddies, but she refused to provide further details.
Yes, there are. I was with a tipsy woman from Seeking who admitted that there are several forums discussing and reviewing specific Daddies, but she refused to provide further details.Can guarantee that there are SB forums and they are discussing how to milk more from you.
So here is another looking for a PPM that might be of interest to a few of you.
https://members.seeking.com/member/7ee595ca-7761-438c-ada8-98b0d7a850bb
She's resolute on 1 K but seems to be open to just about everything and no time limits at all.
If you're a big spender and want more details (including her contact info), DM me.
Anyone have info on this girl? You can message me directly.She is a good time. Really dirty girl. She stayed the night and is open to just about anything but Greek for $$.
Can guarantee that there are SB forums and they are discussing how to milk more from you.It's called TikTok.
So here is another looking for a PPM that might be of interest to a few of you.
https://members.seeking.com/member/7ee595ca-7761-438c-ada8-98b0d7a850bb
She's resolute on 1 K but seems to be open to just about everything and no time limits at all.
If you're a big spender and want more details (including her contact info), DM me.Since I've had a few people reach out already, I decided I'm going to have a live video with her since I have not yet met her yet. All signs indicate she's real but let me first vet her and I'll let you guys know.
SawBoy1740
11-02-21, 09:31
She is a good time. Really dirty girl. She stayed the night and is open to just about anything but Greek for $$.Do we have a link?
BaltoMan66
11-02-21, 09:40
eh...alot of pros are no good, too many rules
Thanks, just looked into it again and it seems like its not available anymore for me. Will be deleting the thing soon most likely.I just did it last month. You don't have to delete your account unless you want to.
I did notice that when the account reverts to basic, they have installed a bunch of roadblocks to make signing on difficult. They make you verify your account every time you sign on, requiring you to go to your email to get a code. Then they have a pop up to renew your paid subscription. I just close the pop up and window shop.
JustinFields
11-02-21, 13:36
I know this has been talked about many times lately but seeking has gotten super low. Some have pointed to guys from Tinder getting on and causing more competition but it is not only that but there are a lot less available girls. I have a feeling they are probably on only fans fucking there boyfriends for money. They figure it is much easier doing that than fucking old strangers for money.
It is like seeking got played out since the pandemic.
https://members.seeking.com/member/9625ec2a-27c7-4aaa-a21e-b5c6ecd94c0a
Talked to this one last year during the pandemic but got a vibe that she was a little off. She's been checking out my profile of late. Does anyone have any info on her. Want to say she's older than listed, maybe a little nutty.
I just did it last month. You don't have to delete your account unless you want to.
I did notice that when the account reverts to basic, they have installed a bunch of roadblocks to make signing on difficult. They make you verify your account every time you sign on, requiring you to go to your email to get a code. Then they have a pop up to renew your paid subscription. I just close the pop up and window shop.I'm still in premium but have to get code to log in. It's a pain in the ass. I'm almost done anyway.
Texted back and forth and before the meet and greet she wants a "cash gift to show sincerity". I reply that I have no expectations other than a drink and neither should she and she says this has never been a problem before on countless dates off SA. Needless to say, that was the end of it.
https://members.seeking.com/member/7dada279-2933-4045-8856-44a12af37cb7
https://members.seeking.com/member/5041c540-a02e-4ea5-8a5b-1e0226d332f9
Mz. Nicki, asking 400 ppm. Can only meet during the week. Older but can carry a conversation and great rack.
https://members.seeking.com/member/b3321758-1cbc-4e9d-8f1d-48903438d1fd
Alani, just started talking to her today. Open to fwb, seems dtf but private pic revealed her bf (best case scenario, pimp worst case scenario). Idiot. Cut off comms based on that. Nice perky tits in the picture but beware.
Mz Nicki is a long time veteran escort. Has reviews on the other site going back 6+ years. https://tryst.link/escort/london-belle.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5041c540-a02e-4ea5-8a5b-1e0226d332f9
Mz. Nicki, asking 400 ppm. Can only meet during the week. Older but can carry a conversation and great rack.
https://members.seeking.com/member/b3321758-1cbc-4e9d-8f1d-48903438d1fd
Alani, just started talking to her today. Open to fwb, seems dtf but private pic revealed her bf (best case scenario, pimp worst case scenario). Idiot. Cut off comms based on that. Nice perky tits in the picture but beware.
I know this has been talked about many times lately but seeking has gotten super low. Some have pointed to guys from Tinder getting on and causing more competition but it is not only that but there are a lot less available girls. I have a feeling they are probably on only fans fucking there boyfriends for money. They figure it is much easier doing that than fucking old strangers for money.
It is like seeking got played out since the pandemic.I've read about guys posting ads on craigslist for models and having luck but this was prob 5-10 years ago. Wonder if that still works. I've been mulling over different ideas on how to procure sb's but am kind of at a loss.
Any intel on this one? Been chatting with her for sometime now. We plan on meeting this Thursday by O'Hare. She can host and wants 400 ppm. So far, it seems like anything goes.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5041c540-a02e-4ea5-8a5b-1e0226d332f9
HandsomeGent47
11-03-21, 01:22
She's a pro. https://chicago.rubratings.com/108184.
Usually from my experience, any SB that offers to host on first meeting is usually a pro.
Stay safe.
Any intel on this one? Been chatting with her for sometime now. We plan on meeting this Thursday by O'Hare. She can host and wants 400 ppm. So far, it seems like anything goes.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5041c540-a02e-4ea5-8a5b-1e0226d332f9
OnlyDreams
11-03-21, 11:33
Any intel on this one? Been chatting with her for sometime now. We plan on meeting this Thursday by O'Hare. She can host and wants 400 ppm. So far, it seems like anything goes.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5041c540-a02e-4ea5-8a5b-1e0226d332f9She's been escorting for a long time and you can even have her for 200 if you contact her through escort sites. She always hosts in Franklin Park. She has a lot of pets. I doubt "anything" goes with her. To start, everything will be covered.
Escorts and content sellers have ruined that site!
Never really have experience with any pros, that being said some of the girls from SA that I have been with I suspect to be pros.
Everyone is difference but is there a difference in.
Price?
Multiple pops?
GFE experience?
Time spent?
Does it feel more transactional with pros?
You figure getting a pro to cum is probably much harder being they are seeing multiple dudes a day and don't want any sensitivity down there.
How have you experiences been when comparing pros to SA girls that do ppm?Pros target different populatio. If you are a busy professional or are married with limited time to play, they don't play games and you will get laid. They also can host if this is an issue and you can factor in the price if you are paying for a hotel. They offer limited time, I do 1 hr, much less likely if at all to offer BBFS and less GFE. You obviously don't get dinner or drinks with them.
They are a good option in certain occasions, SA are better if you are single with time on your hands. I go after the 300 $ - 400 $ range and you can get 1 - 2 pops depending on the provider. They charge by the hour.
Do we have a link?If you go a few pages back you'll see the profile was linked in a different comment.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5...7-afcb0da1a7b1
JustinFields
11-04-21, 19:01
https://members.seeking.com/member/85bf0d4e-3704-424b-85c4-abaa853448b2
Bigger than pics indicate. Tight but not my type. Will negotiate. Would not repeat.
JustinFields
11-04-21, 19:10
https://members.seeking.com/member/274e080c-1901-4d99-afb0-f71dd157fa70
Can host but not my type didn't even talk numbers with her.
https://members.seeking.com/member/0554c248-7eb5-41cb-9df8-634c55a6eef5
Asking for 600 didn't even bother to negotiate. She is cute but not that cute.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5875af12-e662-4fa8-a156-6fc5e631b512
Probable pro hosts in Downtown.
https://members.seeking.com/member/558b09a7-a49f-480c-93a2-1b48f08fae04
Been wanting to fuck this one agreed to 300 but always flakes.
Will do 300 x 1 hour.
Hoffman Oliver
11-05-21, 16:44
Vicky https://members.seeking.com/member/cfd378f2-7a03-4393-ac10-9eaedb778543.
350, fun girl. Has a trashy look to her that I love. Saw her twice, now I'm done so have at it. She will meet NW suburbs.
I received a few DMs about Vicky. Someone posted on this thread about her being a thief. I have no reason to doubt him. I didn't find any other 1st person reports. I was not aware of this when I connected with her. I probably would have passed on her.
That being said, I have seen her multiple times and have had zero issues. She appeared to arrive alone (can't be sure someone else wasnt in the care, she was driving). We smoked weed and had a nice conversation. She has a trashy look that I love, was fun and mostly accommodating. She insisted on cfs, which was not a problem as that is one of my rules too. I would not have any issues with seeing her again but of course would not recommend her now with that report. If I see her again, I might bring it up if I can skillfully bring into the conversation (I can't really imagine how though). All I can write is YMMV.
Hoffman Oliver
11-05-21, 17:05
Nia https://members.seeking.com/member/a9febf3a-6e80-4dd7-b3fb-ed97872bbfa5.
She's been discussed recently, and I concur with that review. She is definitely moody.
Paige / Becca https://members.seeking.com/member/69a0bbbe-4017-4fe7-ab9c-f38bf3b77abe.
She's dtf and can host. She just lives out in the middle of no where. Her story changes a lot, so I don't trust her much (don't really trust SB all that much to begin with). There is a guy who waits in the parking lot. He was there when I got to her apartment and when I left each time I saw her. I believe this is her "boyfriend", who she claims stole all her money and is abusive. If you can look past those red flags, she's always needing money.
Request for info:
Jayme https://members.seeking.com/member/4209696a-9acf-449f-9d96-85631f868b45.
I lost her number recently, if anyone can share I would appreciate it. DM me, thanks.
JustinFields
11-05-21, 17:30
I received a few DMs about Vicky. Someone posted on this thread about her being a thief. I have no reason to doubt him. I didn't find any other 1st person reports. I was not aware of this when I connected with her. I probably would have passed on her.
That being said, I have seen her multiple times and have had zero issues. She appeared to arrive alone (can't be sure someone else wasnt in the care, she was driving). We smoked weed and had a nice conversation. She has a trashy look that I love, was fun and mostly accommodating. She insisted on cfs, which was not a problem as that is one of my rules too. I would not have any issues with seeing her again but of course would not recommend her now with that report. If I see her again, I might bring it up if I can skillfully bring into the conversation (I can't really imagine how though). All I can write is YMMV.She is a cool chick who is ghetto. I wouldn't necessarily put it past her, but that being said I had no issues. She is funny and cool. Not the best experience I have had but def not the worst. She does see a bunch of dudes and is a semi pro / pro.
This gal is not usually my type, but location, availability and price was all in my favor, so I said fuck it! She's easy to talk to and very direct. She initially asked for 350 ppm, but talked her way down and she took it. Communicated via text and she's responsive.
She does not host. Nice tits, cute face and a little gut. Not distracting at all as she carries it well. She's kinda tall / big. Pierced nipple was little weird because of the ring / barbel spikes. Gives great BJ, snuck my finger in her kitty and it was soaking dripping wet. Great lay for the buck for sure.
https://members.seeking.com/member/82452868-b828-451f-8761-10132b5b7a7d
The quality of women on SA has gone down alot. These girls are fuckin backpage girls asking top dollar.
Going to' be a longg winter.
The quality of women on SA has gone down alot. These girls are fuckin backpage girls asking top dollar.
Going to' be a longg winter.Whenever I go to the new signups the chicks are 80% overweight, ghetto, or with more ink and piercings than a sideshow freak. Then the next 19% have profiles that read like someone picked up a copy of English for Dummies to write it. For 100 bucks a month its a pretty poor deal that they can't do a better job getting rid of those fake profiles, but then again if they did, it would expose what a complete and utter sausage fest that place either has become or is.
Whenever I go to the new signups the chicks are 80% overweight, ghetto, or with more ink and piercings than a sideshow freak. Then the next 19% have profiles that read like someone picked up a copy of English for Dummies to write it. For 100 bucks a month its a pretty poor deal that they can't do a better job getting rid of those fake profiles, but then again if they did, it would expose what a complete and utter sausage fest that place either has become or is.Man, I guess I'm pretty lucky. Last year I had (3) good lineups / in rotations and so far this coming up winter 2021 my lineup is pretty good as well. Dropping (2) old and so far I found (1) new one and she's a gem. Hoping to find (1) more new one 🤞127995; within next week.
I'm in the western suburbs and (2) of them are within 10 mile radius and the other one is within less than 10 mile radius from my office.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e7808369-fa08-4d4e-aa05-72bf4e2cdb47
https://tryst.link/escort/jenna6996
But definitely looks worth it! Might have to give her a run.
Member #6323
11-06-21, 12:22
Seeking has irritated me. Why did they remove the friends with benefits criteria? Searching with that and no strings attached always eliminated a significant number of girls who weren't interested in hooking up straight to the point. Always got great results. Too bad. Still might renew for a month as it still can be a fun game but not what it used to be.
JustinFields
11-06-21, 20:07
Man, I guess I'm pretty lucky. Last year I had (3) good lineups / in rotations and so far this coming up winter 2021 my lineup is pretty good as well. Dropping (2) old and so far I found (1) new one and she's a gem. Hoping to find (1) more new one 🤞127995; within next week.
I'm in the western suburbs and (2) of them are within 10 mile radius and the other one is within less than 10 mile radius from my office.I have met a few good ones lately also. The problem with me is I drop them and love getting new Pussy. Plus keeping 3 SB's a month is going to cost 4 K and I hate spending that kind of money.
Seeking has irritated me. Why did they remove the friends with benefits criteria? Searching with that and no strings attached always eliminated a significant number of girls who weren't interested in hooking up straight to the point. Always got great results. Too bad. Still might renew for a month as it still can be a fun game but not what it used to be.They are under scrutiny from the feds I believe. There is alot of censorship and changes / rules.
The only way to run a successful sugar dating site is to domicile it offshore.
OnlyDreams
11-07-21, 13:26
https://members.seeking.com/member/e7808369-fa08-4d4e-aa05-72bf4e2cdb47
https://tryst.link/escort/jenna6996
But definitely looks worth it! Might have to give her a run.I remember on the escort forum there were several reports stating she is a dead fish with so many rules, and don'ts. She will rush you and cut your time short. Not worth it!
ApplePiePussy
11-07-21, 18:19
They are under scrutiny from the feds I believe. There is alot of censorship and changes / rules.
The only way to run a successful sugar dating site is to domicile it offshore.Fucking Evangelicals Look what they did to Texas.
I remember on the escort forum there were several reports stating she is a dead fish with so many rules, and don'ts. She will rush you and cut your time short. Not worth it!Thanks for the save partner!
I'm literally just 2 days into my monthly subscription and SA banned me for no obvious reasons. What should I do here?
Any one met her? Any one have a number to reach her. I have multiple numbers I can share. Send a link of the girl I might have it LOL. Been a long time lurker but I posted before. Have exchanged numbers with others in the past.
JustinFields
11-07-21, 23:08
When meeting SB's for first time hotel date do they usually ask for money before the act begins? From my experience most don't and I have one rare experience where they asked for money upfront and while getting hot and heavy they say they only give covered blow jobs. If I didn't give money I would have threw them out.
Anyone care to share their experiences?
When meeting SB's for first time hotel date do they usually ask for money before the act begins? From my experience most don't and I have one rare experience where they asked for money upfront and while getting hot and heavy they say they only give covered blow jobs. If I didn't give money I would have threw them out.
Anyone care to share their experiences?Are you talking about a hotel room you booked or visiting a girl at her room?
When I book the room, I've showed them the $ a few times so there wouldn't be any doubts on either sides, but never handed it over or had a SB ask for payment up front. If the girl has the room, I assume she's a pro anyway, and they sometimes won't get started unless the money's on a table or in an envelope.
When meeting SB's for first time hotel date do they usually ask for money before the act begins? From my experience most don't and I have one rare experience where they asked for money upfront and while getting hot and heavy they say they only give covered blow jobs. If I didn't give money I would have threw them out.
Anyone care to share their experiences?Not a lot of experience but if the girl is asking for money upfront then you haven't established trust, and without that you might as well go see a pro because you are still treating it as a business relationship.
If a SB insists on pay before play, it's a one and done for me.
RedHead169
11-08-21, 14:54
I'm in need of a second opinion! Both of these girls want to meet up on Tuesday. Both are 300 per meet.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d12fa807-c863-414e-8905-2efeb412f353
This one is willing to come to me and will stay for 2 hours. Says the only thing she won't do is anal. Not sure if that means bare is ok or not.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4d661060-937d-4bab-9784-6a7ffc742eb8
This one has the barely legal thing going for her. Says she doesn't do anal and condoms are a must. I will have to go to her and she is about 45 minutes away.
I'm literally just 2 days into my monthly subscription and SA banned me for no obvious reasons. What should I do here?Reach out to help and ask them to clarify.
When meeting SB's for first time hotel date do they usually ask for money before the act begins? From my experience most don't and I have one rare experience where they asked for money upfront and while getting hot and heavy they say they only give covered blow jobs. If I didn't give money I would have threw them out.
Anyone care to share their experiences?Did you meet before hand for a meet&greet?
I make all expectations clear from the getgo so none of this happens. Just ask what they are / arent comfortable with and go from there.
I'm in need of a second opinion! Both of these girls want to meet up on Tuesday. Both are 300 per meet.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d12fa807-c863-414e-8905-2efeb412f353
This one is willing to come to me and will stay for 2 hours. Says the only thing she won't do is anal. Not sure if that means bare is ok or not.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4d661060-937d-4bab-9784-6a7ffc742eb8
This one has the barely legal thing going for her. Says she doesn't do anal and condoms are a must. I will have to go to her and she is about 45 minutes away.How important is BBFS to you?
If its a deal breaker. You know the answer.
RedHead169
11-08-21, 15:12
How important is BBFS to you?
If its a deal breaker. You know the answer.I don't really know if the first one does BBFS.
MwmChicago
11-08-21, 18:41
I'm in need of a second opinion! Both of these girls want to meet up on Tuesday. Both are 300 per meet.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d12fa807-c863-414e-8905-2efeb412f353
This one is willing to come to me and will stay for 2 hours. Says the only thing she won't do is anal. Not sure if that means bare is ok or not.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4d661060-937d-4bab-9784-6a7ffc742eb8
This one has the barely legal thing going for her. Says she doesn't do anal and condoms are a must. I will have to go to her and she is about 45 minutes away.I'm talking with both as well. 2nd one is too young for me, I worry about them being 16 and ending up in prison. A 16 why / o reached pout to me from a Doublelist ad, didn't reveal her age at first. When she finally sent pics I asked and she admitted to being 16. I immediately passed, not my thing.
First one is cute and near me so may try to connect.
Well I have signed back up and here is some information on those I am not interested in.
https://members.seeking.com/member/b5d35e37-2c8d-415f-a142-31a51ff70f6e
Wants $1000, everything covered. $2000 bare. Can host.
https://members.seeking.com/member/335b6f64-1c63-40b4-97af-006883d0c6a9
$300 per meet BBFS but then asks for money to reserve a spot.
https://members.seeking.com/member/01b67e63-966d-4489-b0e6-e5870804858c
$500 BBFS. Can host but wants $100 deposit.
https://members.seeking.com/member/1bdc2f49-6c47-4629-a7d8-adb7c63f4353
$500 and immediately wants to meet. Will not budge. Can host. Didn't pursue further.
I will keep them coming.
With a little bit of schedule flexibility finally coming back, I took the plunge and upgraded on SA for the first time in a few years. A couple of data points that may help others -.
I used a $100 Visa gift card that I found at Home Depot. It wasn't Vanilla, I'm pretty sure the link to register it was from giftcardmall.com. I 'registered' with a fake name and address, put that same info in the SA form, and it verified and upgraded on the first try.
I'll share one right away that I'm not interested in:
https://members.seeking.com/member/1bdc2f49-6c47-4629-a7d8-adb7c63f4353
Replied to an initial greeting immediately with a $500 PM quote and her phone number. Doesn't look special enough to me to start negotiating at that price point, so I'll be happy to share the number with interested seniors since she's obviously throwing it out there to anyone.
HitMan1783
11-08-21, 21:49
Well I have signed back up and here is some information on those I am not interested in.
https://members.seeking.com/member/b5d35e37-2c8d-415f-a142-31a51ff70f6e
Wants $1000, everything covered. $2000 bare. Can host.
https://members.seeking.com/member/335b6f64-1c63-40b4-97af-006883d0c6a9
$300 per meet BBFS but then asks for money to reserve a spot.
https://members.seeking.com/member/01b67e63-966d-4489-b0e6-e5870804858c
$500 BBFS. Can host but wants $100 deposit.
https://members.seeking.com/member/1bdc2f49-6c47-4629-a7d8-adb7c63f4353
$500 and immediately wants to meet. Will not budge. Can host. Didn't pursue further.
I will keep them coming.Established member is a scammer and uses fake pics. Just heads up. Constantly making different profiles.
RusselJimmies
11-08-21, 22:22
Established member is a scammer and uses fake pics. Just heads up. Constantly making different profiles.Can confirm, claims to be an OF girl but somehow can't reply to messages on OF.
I don't know why I didn't think of this before. Back in the day malls were the ultimate pickup spot for hot girls. My friends and I used to spend weekends hanging out there and getting phone numbers of the makeup girls or the perfume girls or if you were really feeling lucky the Victoria's Secret girls.
I hadn't done anything like that in so long I forgot all about it until I stopped by Sephora today to pick up some more cologne. I was just making some small talk with the girl working there as she walked me around the scents. A little thick, either Latina, mixed or a white girl with a fake tan who sounds black, wearing really tight black pants, couldn't exactly tell her age because she had a mask on, but she had elaborate eye makeup and long nails and definitely gave off a sexy vibe.
I made some quip about how I'm impressed she's still working with everybody quitting their jobs and all and she's like "well this will have to hold me over until I meet a sugar daddy to sweep me off my feet". I laughed but wasn't sure if she was joking or not so I semi-jokingly asked "whatchu know about sugar daddies?" And she laughed and said "you know I'm on all them sites".
I kept thinking about it while I bought my stuff and just as I was about to leave I turned around, borrowed a pen and some paper from the cashier, wrote my number down and gave it to her. All I said was "I'm on all them sites too. Text me".
This literally JUST happened a few hours ago so I have no idea what will come of it. I haven't gotten a text back yet but I have my fingers crossed. Definitely brings back memories of the good old days of mall pickups.
Anyway, be on the lookout for a girl, probably mid to late 20s, thick, curly dirty blonde shoulder length hair and hazel eyes. She has an oversized ass and probably about a C cup. ethnically ambiguous, about 5'6", 150-160lbs with a lot of makeup in her pictures and some sort of tan, either natural or artificial. If you see anyone like that let me know or post it here.
This one wants $800 cfs. Can host.
https://members.seeking.com/member/f3e933f8-dfba-4554-b855-2f61e6ff81d5
RedHead169
11-09-21, 00:10
I'm talking with both as well. 2nd one is too young for me, I worry about them being 16 and ending up in prison. A 16 why / o reached pout to me from a Doublelist ad, didn't reveal her age at first. When she finally sent pics I asked and she admitted to being 16. I immediately passed, not my thing.
First one is cute and near me so may try to connect.Yea I'm going to see her tomorrow. Will report back with how things go.
TimeForPlay10
11-09-21, 10:52
Well I have signed back up and here is some information on those I am not interested in.
https://members.seeking.com/member/b5d35e37-2c8d-415f-a142-31a51ff70f6e
Wants $1000, everything covered. $2000 bare. Can host.
https://members.seeking.com/member/335b6f64-1c63-40b4-97af-006883d0c6a9
$300 per meet BBFS but then asks for money to reserve a spot.
https://members.seeking.com/member/01b67e63-966d-4489-b0e6-e5870804858c
$500 BBFS. Can host but wants $100 deposit.
https://members.seeking.com/member/1bdc2f49-6c47-4629-a7d8-adb7c63f4353
$500 and immediately wants to meet. Will not budge. Can host. Didn't pursue further.
I will keep them coming.Angelina will negotiate down significantly and allows BBFS. She's a stripper. Nice girl but something is a bit off with her.
Good afternoon, gentlemen. Anyone have any info on a girl that goes by Brenda. I believe her SA was sugarthing. Contacted her about a year and half ago. She's been texting me to meet at her place in Oak Park.
Haven't been mongering lately, been busy with regular chicks, but I will report back if I see Brenda, if she's worth a visit.
More that I am not interested in.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d6a06a2d-a44a-4228-b0bf-e648018dd9b5
$700. Everything covered. She can host.
https://members.seeking.com/member/702394a8-e7d5-4598-b656-6dc7fc8e8991
$500 for a public meet. $1000 for CFS. $1500 BBFS. $2000 for BBFS CIP and you must provide test results. She can host.
SgtSlapaHoe
11-09-21, 21:54
More that I am not interested in.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d6a06a2d-a44a-4228-b0bf-e648018dd9b5
$700. Everything covered. She can host.
https://members.seeking.com/member/702394a8-e7d5-4598-b656-6dc7fc8e8991
$500 for a public meet. $1000 for CFS. $1500 BBFS. $2000 for BBFS CIP and you must provide test results. She can host.I reversed image searched her a while ago and it came back as an IG model in a different country. Can't remember who though.
RedHead169
11-10-21, 03:06
https://members.seeking.com/member/69f08c0e-7e79-4bc4-9856-36d6d761084b
Scammer. Wants you to buy her content prior to meeting. I reported her to SA.
https://members.seeking.com/member/73baeffb-fc78-42d1-b2e8-485d2471f5a9
This one wants 600 for 2 hours. No oral at all and CFS. I passed.
Angelina will negotiate down significantly and allows BBFS. She's a stripper. Nice girl but something is a bit off with her.I was talking to her awhile ago. How much does she come down? When girls throw out anything over $600 I just end the conversation.
Who did I see this morning at Starbucks in Bolingbrook? I saw (2) familiar faces / sugar babies out on a coffee meet. I hope things went well for guys. 😆.
Who did I see this morning at Starbucks in Bolingbrook? I saw (2) familiar faces / sugar babies out on a coffee meet. I hope things went well for guys. 😆.And the stimulus is over. These girls need to close the deal soon.
And the stimulus is over. These girls need to close the deal soon.Haha! Man, it was hilarious this morning. I know for a fact those girls are from SA.
https://members.seeking.com/member/46aa92af-f96f-4d60-a6c1-d8550a456c5e
This one wants to know if you are good with $1000 a meet even before talking. Pass.
https://members.seeking.com/member/736747e8-82da-4a61-b230-d218493d2d0f
$500 fcs. Can't host. Won't come down.
https://members.seeking.com/member/9202592f-d86a-469d-939a-08e67bacf7e4
This one wants $100 before even talking.
https://members.seeking.com/member/870562ff-8113-4d55-b968-3aecc670502f
$800. CFS. Can't host. Won't budge as she is looking for life altering money. WTF?
https://members.seeking.com/member/88559c06-b8d2-4bb5-b0cb-4baea45bd757
Pro. Want's $400 CFS. Near Rosemont.
Greetings from Nashville Tennessee! Vickster here, I have been banned from SA, Promoting Prostitution? Ha! Anywhoo, Has any had any luck with a girl going by "Cidrainbow" Laptop crashed with her deets and well, I'm banned! Does anyone know how to beat the ban? By the way better luck here in Music City with tourists! Providers worth anything are nonexistent! Scams, Robbery, Just a desert! Thanks, guys ahead and Be Safe. V.
StanCopier
11-11-21, 17:59
I believe another member asked about her awhile back but I didn't see any responses. Any information you could offer would be appreciated as she seems DTF.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3bcf1558-9022-433b-8980-a8ce4c13c604
RedHead169
11-11-21, 18:41
https://members.seeking.com/member/dee5066e-e8b0-4cd5-a13a-f27aacf220df
This one wants 500 ppm and wouldn't budge. Never got to discuss anything about the meet.
I believe another member asked about her awhile back but I didn't see any responses. Any information you could offer would be appreciated as she seems DTF.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3bcf1558-9022-433b-8980-a8ce4c13c604She's DTF! 250 anything goes. This gal is not shy at all. Based on our convo, she's super naughty and geared towards her back door getting filled. She can host in Aurora.
I did not pursue on meeting her. She seemed too high mileage to my liking.
https://members.seeking.com/member/79af807c-29f7-40e5-8caa-33a519cd4ffb
Wants $800 CFS and she can't host.
https://members.seeking.com/member/c5ac54c7-21cf-42b8-a3ee-2ca12736ea6e
This one only wants virtual.
https://members.seeking.com/member/64584d7f-3f52-48d1-b9e2-3538396bd20e
This one wants money for M&G. I immediately passed.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d61e6358-1db0-48d7-a1af-36174a4638ac
This one was too fat for me. $200-$300 BBFS. She can't host but is out in oswego.
DMichaels69
11-11-21, 22:28
How does she look?
She's DTF! 250 anything goes. This gal is not shy at all. Based on our convo, she's super naughty and geared towards her back door getting filled. She can host in Aurora.
I did not pursue on meeting her. She seemed too high mileage to my liking.
BojHunter85
11-12-21, 11:38
I got banned from SA a while back and was successfully using the site with a secondary account. I then slipped up and used a credit card I had associated with the orginal banned account and they have since suspended every account I've tried to create since then. I've used vanilla gift cards, new emails and even a VPN. How the heck are they still identifying me. Please advise. The only thing I can think of is to use the TOR browser and a new vanilla gift card and email. Any pointers?
On a second note, I was wondering if anyone has had any success with other sites such as Secretbenefits, sugardaddy.com. SDM, etc. Their pricing model seems to be credit based, which is not ideal for playing the numbers game with SB's. Also, SA seems to have the most real users. I appreciate any input guys, I'm always looking for a nice non pro to breed.
Renegade82
11-12-21, 12:59
Does everyone feel the girls are asking for higher prices to start? I get a lot of 500 and above? Some will come down but a lot do not? Is that the new market value? I base mine on the services they provide and how many hours they will stay. Any thoughts?
How does she look?Can't see her body, but her face looks very cute. Kind of a bad-girl vibe, in my opinion.
Would love her phone number, if anyone is willing to share.
ChicagoGoer
11-12-21, 16:50
I got banned from SA a while back and was successfully using the site with a secondary account. I then slipped up and used a credit card I had associated with the orginal banned account and they have since suspended every account I've tried to create since then. I've used vanilla gift cards, new emails and even a VPN. How the heck are they still identifying me. Please advise. The only thing I can think of is to use the TOR browser and a new vanilla gift card and email. Any pointers?
On a second note, I was wondering if anyone has had any success with other sites such as Secretbenefits, sugardaddy.com. SDM, etc. Their pricing model seems to be credit based, which is not ideal for playing the numbers game with SB's. Also, SA seems to have the most real users. I appreciate any input guys, I'm always looking for a nice non pro to breed.Seeking is going to be your best bet, that pains me to say. I took a 2 month break from SA to try all those sites and was incredibly dry. The digital and cash advance girl are just as common on the Alts. On average I show 15-20 new profiles per day being made on seeking. The other sites 2-3 new ones a day. Not enough volume honestly.
How does she look?Message me your number etc. I can share pics.
Can't see her body, but her face looks very cute. Kind of a bad-girl vibe, in my opinion.
Would love her phone number, if anyone is willing to share.Nice above average MILFy body. Pussy is kinda beat up looking TBH. She ghosted the day of a meet, so never got to see if she was as wild of a time as she(?) portrayed herself to be (all inputs available, BBFS, CIP etc).
DMichaels69
11-12-21, 17:45
Clear you inbox please.
Message me your number etc. I can share pics.
I got banned from SA a while back and was successfully using the site with a secondary account. I then slipped up and used a credit card I had associated with the orginal banned account and they have since suspended every account I've tried to create since then. I've used vanilla gift cards, new emails and even a VPN. How the heck are they still identifying me. Please advise. The only thing I can think of is to use the TOR browser and a new vanilla gift card and email. Any pointers?
On a second note, I was wondering if anyone has had any success with other sites such as Secretbenefits, sugardaddy.com. SDM, etc. Their pricing model seems to be credit based, which is not ideal for playing the numbers game with SB's. Also, SA seems to have the most real users. I appreciate any input guys, I'm always looking for a nice non pro to breed.The other sites are a waste of time.
Re-install your operating system on your computer and pull the plug on your modem / router so you get a new IP.
Use a diff email and get new pics.
I haven't been on seeking in over a year. Seems like there's so many fake profiles on there now. Such a waste of time talking to scammers.
Nice above average MILFy body. Pussy is kinda beat up looking TBH. She ghosted the day of a meet, so never got to see if she was as wild of a time as she(?) portrayed herself to be (all inputs available, BBFS, CIP etc).NaughtyZoey.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3bcf1558-9022-433b-8980-a8ce4c13c604
She ghosts almost everyone when it comes time to meet. She's done that for years. This is her new profile. I think she gets off just by sexting guys and seeing your dick pics. It's almost impossible to get her to meet. Don't waste your time unless you just want to exchange naughty pics with her.
JustinFields
11-13-21, 12:55
Pic / video seller scammer.
Trying to sell videos of herself getting fucked. She will meet with a deposit beforehand. Probably scammer.
https://members.seeking.com/member/50bf3519-f287-4e4c-ba40-3b8c0b90431e
BeNewAgain
11-13-21, 15:02
The other sites are a waste of time.
Re-install your operating system on your computer and pull the plug on your modem / router so you get a new IP.
Use a diff email and get new pics.I've been banned more times than I can count, and always get around it but I can't seem to get around it this time. I've reset my modem, downloaded new VPN browsers, used new emails, new pics. I noticed the last time I got around the ban, it was when one of the many times I reset my router. I actually had to re log in on all my devices to my network. I don't know how to have it fully reset like that again.
Any success getting around the ban from anyone?
RusselJimmies
11-13-21, 15:14
Psycho Kris K is back with a new account:
https://members.seeking.com/member/04971430-3ea8-4f4c-809d-7e40a3981baf
I haven't been on seeking in over a year. Seems like there's so many fake profiles on there now. Such a waste of time talking to scammers.I think the biggest drivers are cam sites and the pandemic as far as this goes. Along with demographics to some extent.
The red lines are peak millenial birth rates. Most millenials were 18-25 5 years ago. Now the youngest are about 30. Look at the birthrates from 2000 to 2003. In yellow on the graph. There are just alot less people being born in the USA.
I sourced the data from here.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.CBRT.IN?locations=US
Since vpn's and all that arent working and apparently SA is blocking at a deeper level (idk. MAC address, IP add, etc) . Has anyone just tried using someone else's hardware and internet connection all together? Using a pc at an Internet cafe, pc at a hotel, new burner phone, borrow a buddy's pc and use at Starbucks, etc? I'd have to imagine a completely fresh footprint with zero ties to any existing / previous connectivity to SA should bypass whatever is tracking your ban?
I've been banned more times than I can count, and always get around it but I can't seem to get around it this time. I've reset my modem, downloaded new VPN browsers, used new emails, new pics. I noticed the last time I got around the ban, it was when one of the many times I reset my router. I actually had to re log in on all my devices to my network. I don't know how to have it fully reset like that again.
Any success getting around the ban from anyone?
JustinFields
11-13-21, 17:20
I think the biggest drivers are cam sites and the pandemic as far as this goes. Along with demographics to some extent.
The red lines are peak millenial birth rates. Most millenials were 18-25 5 years ago. Now the youngest are about 30. Look at the birthrates from 2000 to 2003. In yellow on the graph. There are just alot less people being born in the USA.
I sourced the data from here.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.CBRT.IN?locations=USI would guess to venture cam sites is number 1. The girls figure they can make money playing with themselves and ducking their boyfriend from the comfort of their own home. The bigger problem is the men that purchase this material.
Troy Akerman
11-13-21, 17:52
I fucked her in her aurora condo. She was not bad looking. Her tots look huge in clothes they are pretty saggy in real life. I did fuck her BBFS with cip. She told me she was on the rag and got off that I still ducked her anyways was def dirty but and had to shower up but bbfscip with this gal on the rag. She is kinda off I think though. Def daddy issues.
NaughtyZoey.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3bcf1558-9022-433b-8980-a8ce4c13c604
She ghosts almost everyone when it comes time to meet. She's done that for years. This is her new profile. I think she gets off just by sexting guys and seeing your dick pics. It's almost impossible to get her to meet. Don't waste your time unless you just want to exchange naughty pics with her..
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