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Freckle Freak
12-12-15, 18:01
According to Jackson there are a lot of new members joining, so welcome to the premier site whose sole purpose is "To facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women".
This blog is mainly to help the first time posters and newbies. New members at times find it tough to get answers to their questions and achieve a response to their posts and / or PM's. I find the reasons are similar to hunting with a group of guys. In every hunting group there could be new hunters and experienced hunters. The experienced hunters have a problem with new hunters who never contribute by gathering fire wood, cooking a meal, cleaning the camp and always want to know the location of the best hunting spot. If the new hunters in their eagerness to fit in are willing to listen and learn from the experienced hunters then they will normally find them helpful. If the experienced hunter does not feel the newer hunters are being respectful or are asking a lot of questions that can be found elsewhere then they may ignore them. A newer hunter should first learn the hunting rules, do some research about the different hunting skills, contribute to the hunting experience and report back when fine game is discovered. So this is one analogy, others may have different ones.
This blog hopefully will be helpful as a guide to find, research, negotiate and enjoy some good pussy. Other experienced senior members advice and input is welcomed. It's best if this blog is not used for posting reviews, please use the forums already provided. Information will be provided in various posts throughout this blog.
First and foremost:
Read the rules found in the FAQ section of this great site.
Read the abbreviations.
Learn how to use the PM's.
Learn how to create and reply to posts.
Learn how to use the "Search Thread" tool. This is your most valuable tool on the site. You can search by about anything; names, descriptions, key words (like freckles) etc.
In regards to "User Names" on this site verses other sites. Freckle Freak is just one name I have used in the past on various sites. Those of you with user names on other sites that have been in the hobby for many years and are new to this site, well we still don't know it's you. Just remember anyone can sign up on this site with a user name from another site, it means nothing until it is verified that they are the same person. LE has assumed user names from other sites either by arrest or by other means so it's important to be very cautious.
More to come.
FF.
P.S. I hope this doesn't make some freckles pop out.
Freckle Freak
12-12-15, 18:15
Backpage and escort sites research tools:
On BP use the search and see if there are any other ads using key words or phone numbers.
On BP click the "All" in regards to locations. This will tell you if it's a mass post or local.
Google the phone number. You will be amazed at what you will find.
Search FB with the phone number. Some of you can do this on your cell phone.
Search pictures with google image or TinEye.
Google the e-mail address.
Use the "Search Thread" tool on this site in the BP, massage, escort and ripoff forums.
Read the ad because some girls don't like calls and others don't like texts. If at all possible try to get them to do both. LE doesn't really like telephone calls, they prefer texts.
Ask if they are the girl in the pic. If the pic has an identifying tattoo, freckles etc. Then bring it up.
There are various sites that consolidate BP ads by phone number. Some of these sites are a very good research tool. One site that will come up is escortbusts.com. This not an LE site, just a gimmick so don't ask.
Sign up for a paid telephone number internet search site. I haven't found one that is cheap and reliable, however others may have.
Rules to live by when visiting an unknown or unverified provider:
Arrive early and check out the surroundings, location etc.
Be aware of your surroundings and exits.
Ask if anyone is there and if yes, who and why.
Ask to use the bathroom in hotels to check them and make sure adjoining doors to other rooms are locked.
If you're interrupted then grab the contribution and get out, with minimal drama.
Remember scammers and thieves don't want to be anymore involved with LE than you do, but they will use it as a bluff.
Have a backup plan or let another hobbyist know where you are going with contact info address etc. Most providers do it so why not the hobbyist.
Listen to you spidey senses. If it doesn't feel right, walk away.
Get "comfortable" at the same time because you can't chase someone with your pants down.
Think with your big head until she's as comfortable as you are and paying attention to your little head.
When seeing a BP escort or an unknown provider DO NOT give them the contribution until services are performed. You can show it to them, but keep it in plain sight and within reach. Scammers will always try and find some way to get it from you and either run or find a reason to leave. If they start pushing you for it then use your big head and say "Sorry this just isn't working for me so I'm going to leave". If they get pissy, then just leave. When meeting at a hotel and they threaten to tell the management about you then say Ok, please bring your massage or escort license with you to the front desk so you can show them it.
Hint: When you arrive tell them you want to talk for a few minutes. This is gives you the opportunity to learn about them, the service, their attitude, let them do as much talking as possible, ask open ended questions, see how they react. If things don't feel right then leave, maybe with a minimal contribution for their time.
Anything to ad, chime on in.
FF.
P.S. The most important thing I do when researching is to get out my freckle scope!
Never take ANY more cash than you intend on spending. If they see you have more than discussed, they will give their best effort to get it. If you have extra in your pockets, even legit providers will rummage through your clothes if given the chance. Until you have developed a trusted relationship with your provider, it's best to have all your pockets empty. Leave anything else in your car.
Always bring your own condoms, providers don't always have them. Don't let something as simple as this limit your options, some providers will use this to their advantage. I always bring three, better to have more than you need, than none or not enough.
Always put your own condom on! Sly providers will damage it putting it on for you. I once watched a provider push her thumbnail through the wrap as she put it on me. After you have been with a provider a few times, and you both have developed trust, then you can let her "wow" you with her oral application techniques.
If you are doing an incall in your own home, "hooker proof " it before they arrive. If it's valuable, put it up. If it's valuable and not nailed down, it will leave with them if they get the chance. If I find myself needing to leave the room, either take them with you, or tell them to clap their hands non stop until you get back. They can't cram your stuff in their purse AND clap at the same time. It sounds silly, but they want their money, they will clap.
If you do decide to have a provider in your own home, think about this. You don't know her, she might be bringing three of her buddies with to rob you. Leave off all your lights, and watch who gets out of the car, and if she has passengers. If it doesn't look / feel right, don't answer the door. Let them leave, thinking they were told the wrong address and nobody was home. If you do invite them in, they could be casing the place. Returning later with buddies for some breaking and entering. Don't let them know your work schedule, talk like this is a rare time that nobody is home and you're glad you had the chance to fit them in. Some mongers prefer to incall at their own hotel room, but a lot of providers won't go to a hotel incall, fearing a LE sting. USE DISCRESSION WHEN INVITING A STRANGER INTO YOUR HOME!
Most of all, be nice to the girls that deserve it. They are providing all of us valuable services, be nice, be polite, they will want to see you again. If you become a regular, they will usually offer discounts, and bend over backwards to make you happy. If they contact you first, they need money, use it to your advantage, " I want to see you, BUT I only have this much money " , usually works for me.
A lot of times the guys that have been around here awhile seem to close ranks and be less than friendly. For you guys that are just joining us, welcome. Seriously welcome to the site and I want to give you something to think about.
Say you're a guy that likes to smoke a little weed from time to time and you have just moved to a new city. You're just a hangaround kinda guy nothing special, 9-5er but you like to go out, have a beer and maybe a little toke in the parking lot. So you find a new bar. Seems like a nice place, the beer is cold, the bartender's kinda hot, the place isn't too dark or to bright, friendly place but not pushy. The first week you're there you see folks going outside and when they come back you get a little wiff of something interesting.
If you start walking around the place looking for a J to buy what's gonna happen? You're gonna get frozen out. If on the other hand, you hang out, let your face be known, have a couple convos, buy a beer or two, tip the hot bartender well, sooner or later you will get an invitation to join.
Again, welcome. If you show up asking shit tons of questions without doing any of the basics you're gonna get froze out. Read back a few pages, if you have a question let it be procedural, not informational. Figure out who is a trusted provider, take a dip write a note about it. Become a familiar face. Before you know it you're known.
A2
Excellent instructions. My only addition is research, research, research.
Freckle Freak
12-13-15, 09:27
USE DISCRESSION WHEN INVITING A STRANGER INTO YOUR HOME!It's possible that your freckled GF or SO might stop by unannounced and find your face buried in another freckled womans pussy. It ain't a pretty site!
Good advice from Indy Tech about bringing only the $ you need, supplying your own condoms and installation procedures. I would only recommend an outcall to your private residence only with a secure and trusted provider. Indy Tech's scenarios are spot on and inviting someone you don't know to your residence is very risky. I once had a stripper come by my place and all went well until a couple of months later when my kids were in town she dropped by unannounced at 3 am banging on the door. The same thing also happened with a wacked out provider, no longer in Indy, who had been there before and dropped by to start shit with me while family was at my residence. Once your location is known, you have lost some of your privacy.
FF.
P.S. Freckles were flying when my GF came home unexpectedly.
Freckle Freak
12-13-15, 09:36
For you guys that are just joining us, welcome. Become a familiar face. Before you know it you're known.A2A2 for chiming in and allowing this blog to exist.
FF.
P.S. A2 is a very lucky guy to have some of the most beautiful non-freckled pussy available in his area of the world!
If you are doing an incall in your own home, "hooker proof " it before they arrive. If it's valuable, put it up. If it's valuable and not nailed down, it will leave with them if they get the chance. If I find myself needing to leave the room, either take them with you, or tell them to clap their hands non stop until you get back. They can't cram your stuff in their purse AND clap at the same time. It sounds silly, but they want their money, they will clap.
If you do decide to have a provider in your own home, think about this. You don't know her, she might be bringing three of her buddies with to rob you. Leave off all your lights, and watch who gets out of the car, and if she has passengers. If it doesn't look / feel right, don't answer the door. Let them leave, thinking they were told the wrong address and nobody was home. If you do invite them in, they could be casing the place. Returning later with buddies for some breaking and entering. Don't let them know your work schedule, talk like this is a rare time that nobody is home and you're glad you had the chance to fit them in. Some mongers prefer to incall at their own hotel room, but a lot of providers won't go to a hotel incall, fearing a LE sting. USE DISCRESSION WHEN INVITING A STRANGER INTO YOUR HOMEAfter reading my posting, I realized that I should have used the term OUTCALL, not incall. Please excuse my ignorance in this, but I still stand by what I say.
This is all very valuable information so thank you Indy Tech. I am new to posting but I have been watching and learning for a good amount of time. Thank you again.
Never take ANY more cash than you intend on spending. If they see you have more than discussed, they will give their best effort to get it. If you have extra in your pockets, even legit providers will rummage through your clothes if given the chance. Until you have developed a trusted relationship with your provider, it's best to have all your pockets empty. Leave anything else in your car....
Freckle Freak
12-15-15, 07:17
This post is about Uncle and the unlikely event that you will meet him and his wife. It has happened to some of the most experiences mongers, the most famous being GRBoiler. GRB turned on other mongers by not getting the word out and turning over his handle and password on aNother Review site. GRB did not warn anyone even though he had the opportunity to do so. How he ever became a hobbyist perplexes me because he has no balls and is one big pussy! Because of GRB it has become increasingly important to verify both providers and hobbyist's. Use the research methods already provided in this blog and this includes developing trust among members of this board to help with verification.
If you are visited by Uncle then DO NOT give anything up. No handles, no passwords, keep your mouth shut, it's a misdemeanor and 99.9% of the time you will be provided the opportunity for a diversion program by the prosecutor. Uncle will do and say anything to try and scare you and convince you that helping them will reduce your misdemeanor crime before you are removed from the sting location and booked. It's a ploy, only the prosecutor can make a deal. More than likely you will be booked and processed and spend the evening or even all night wearing orange and eating green bologna. You won't have access to your cell phone so memorize a trusted friends phone number who you can call because bail will be set at around $100. Use a screen lock password on your phone so LE cannot get into it. Make sure it doesn't unlock if an e-mail, call or text arrives while you are visiting with uncle. Call or get on-line as soon as possible and contact another hobbyist and advise them of the sting. DO NOT put up a post about the sting under the handle that you normally use it only gets the hair up on the back of Uncles neck and points a finger at you. Let another hobbyist put out the warning.
Just being caught in a sting is what Uncle wants as a deterrent. If you have an SO or Better Half, just the time away from them and not being available to answer calls or come home, this could be for several hours or all night, becomes your major problem. Giving things up will not keep this from happening.
Uncle has posed in the past as a hobbyist on P411 and they are on this site. They have made deals with providers in the past and set up hobbyists. This is one reason to verify providers if they have not been active for a while or have been involved in a recent sting. Most providers do not cave in to uncle and are honorable. Many trusted providers have been visited by uncle and are still trust worthy. Do not ask me who they are, if I felt there was a current issue with one I would advise this board.
On another note I would recommend using a burner phone (hobby phone) or use text and calling app on your smart phone. I have found either google voice or Text Now to be good aps and they are free.
Be safe, smart and as MW Dude said research, research, research and more research.
FF.
P.S. Uncle hates hobbyists who like freckles.
LancePkrbttm
12-15-15, 19:40
Park in an adjacent property. Walk through an another nearby business. For example I park on a side street near a gas station. Go in the back door and exit the front. Walk to my AMP and go in the front door. Leave from the back of the AMP and walk an entirely different path back. If I do get nicked they can't impound my car and confiscate it because they never observed my using it to "commit a crime".
I never verbally or in any communications agree to or discuss any "services". If you that damn curious text from a different burner than you book with. Find out if she does BB anal and then BBBJCIM in that order if it's your thing. But not where it's tied to you! Not sure I've ever heard of a decoy taking it in the mouth. So once you're in, then it's probably OK to discuss.
One area that is often neglected is attitude. It works both ways. There are many negative reports about a provider having a bad attitude, being bored, inattentive, not into the session, whatever. But sometimes it's the monger's attitude that causes the problem.
Especially the first time meeting a provider, try to set the right tone. Maybe she's been giving you the runaround for 5 hours, or some of the communications weren't to your liking. If you walk in the door with a bad attitude, there's no way you're going to be happy coming out. When you knock on the door, it's a fresh start. If it still turns out lousy, at least you'll know it wasn't your fault.
Except for the most hardcore providers, the women would rather have a good session than a bad one. That doesn't mean you have to give her multiple O's, but make it pleasant. If she enjoys your company, you'll definitely benefit.
There's also much to be said for repeat visits. Sometimes poor performance, on either side, is caused by nerves. If everything else was good, a second try might change things.
IndyGuy123
12-18-15, 15:46
One area that is often neglected is attitude. It works both ways. There are many negative reports about a provider having a bad attitude, being bored, inattentive, not into the session, whatever. But sometimes it's the monger's attitude that causes the problem.
Especially the first time meeting a provider, try to set the right tone. Maybe she's been giving you the runaround for 5 hours, or some of the communications weren't to your liking. If you walk in the door with a bad attitude, there's no way you're going to be happy coming out. When you knock on the door, it's a fresh start. If it still turns out lousy, at least you'll know it wasn't your fault.
Except for the most hardcore providers, the women would rather have a good session than a bad one. That doesn't mean you have to give her multiple O's, but make it pleasant. If she enjoys your company, you'll definitely benefit.
There's also much to be said for repeat visits. Sometimes poor performance, on either side, is caused by nerves. If everything else was good, a second try might change things.JJ,
Yes this is a paramount item. The truly good providers will have no problem filling up their schedule. Because of this they can become selective. If they truly enjoy you, they will always have time to see you. The individuals they do not actually like will be put on the back burner and only get appointments when the ladies are in need of help and are unable to fill their appointments with their preferred clients. I have witnessed on more than one occasion, a provider turn down bigger money to be with me. When asked why, was informed "because he is an asshole". As BGUAM says "give and get respect".
Indy Guy.
Freckle Freak
12-19-15, 08:40
Both IG and Jjbee62 have touched on another area of the hobby that will create a divide among hobbyist on here to agree / disagree. I will touch on two points. Provider and Hobbyist attitudes and brotherhood.
ATTITUDE.
It has already been said that a good provider with a good attitude has no trouble securing business and picking clients. Some on here think anything from a streetwalker to a $1000 hr provider is a "W-hore". I hate that word because society, mainly men, use it in a derogatory way to define a woman who enjoys sex. Damn we should be so lucky that we find a woman who likes it as much as we do. If this label is used on women sex workers, then in my opinion, the men who solicit them are also "W-hores". The difference between a good provider and street walkers and most BP escorts is attitude. If you treat a provider like a "W-hore" then you will get a Whoreable experience. These women have lives, feelings, complications, finances and they deserve respect from hobbyist because we should be gentlemen. Providers are in this biz mainly for three reasons. 1. To feed their or their SO's drug habit. 2. To earn a living because for whatever reason they or their SO can't or won't get a real job. 3. They do it part time, real job comes first, because they enjoy the sex and the company. I am talking about anything from a BP escort to a high end provider. I have become friends with many providers and enemies with some. The difference between the two was always attitude. The woman that felt they could treat me with disrespect, steal, lie and trick me, caused me to lose respect for them, thus the enemies. I have had disagreements with many providers and still remained friends mainly because of the attitude on both sides of the fence. So a provider with a good attitude deserves respect and you will have a much more enjoyable experience if you treat them like ladies. A hobbyist with a good attitude will earn the respect of the provider and she will provide a much more enjoyable experience. Mutual respect results in a better menu and a more intimate encounter, if that's what you are looking for. Those of you that just want to blow and go, that's great also. Do it but with some respect because "It's the right thing to do" as a gentleman.
BROTHERHOOD.
Now once a provider disrespects a client, for some of the reasons I indicated above, I think brotherhood should enter into the scenario. We all want to be warned about scammers and thieves. These are the easy ones. What about the ones that show extreme disrespect for a hobbyist. Many times the lines of disrespect are unclear, in many cases they should be, because most on this board are unknown to each other. But once a hobbyist has an issue and other hobbyist's can verify it's true then why not exercise brotherhood and use our power to "Cut Off" the poor attitude of the provider / escort / stripper? I know the answer will be "Why should I care about what happens to you"? Because we are in it together even though many of us are private and need extreme anonymity. If we weren't in it together we wouldn't be on this board sharing info and helping each other find pussy. Why continue to help a lady (used loosely) who has taken advantage of a hobbyist? We shouldn't continue to help because once again "It's the right thing to do". Many on this board follow the brotherhood and have helped others in bad situations. I have tried to stand by a wronged hobbyist and other hobbyist's have stood by me when I was wronged. I believe it's because everyone felt it was the right thing to do. Now a hobbyist that is out of control needs to also be dealt with. Yes there are some real A-Holes out there. If a hobbyist harms a provider or another hobbyist then they should be dealt with because once again it's the right thing to do.
There will be some who will disagree with my above two philosophies and that's ok. We all have our opinions and we can agree to disagree. My opinion is a simple one. Be a gentleman and treat others with respect because it's the right thing to do. But once disrespect is paramount then lets stick together and deal with it together.
FF.
P.S. Damn, I love a freckled provider with a great attitude!
I won't disagree with anything, but I do want to elaborate on the brotherhood aspect.
There are times when a client will make a false claim against a client, or will only tell one side of the story, or the roles might be reversed.
I think it's important to withhold judgment until all the facts are known. Too often, everyone grabs their pitchfork and runs to join the lynch mob. Other than the obvious scammers, most problems are isolated instances.
Except for people who are forced into it, every sex worker is in the business for the same reason, money.
1. It's a quick way to feed an addiction.
2. It's the best option to pay the bills.
3. If you have to work, do something you enjoy.
The first group, hit and split. The addiction trumps everything else, there's only trouble waiting there.
The second group may be worth some additional effort. With the right attitude, you can turn average to awesome.
Group 3, if the chemistry is there and you play your cards right. You're in for the ride of your life.
Both IG and Jjbee62 have touched on another area of the hobby that will create a divide among hobbyist on here to agree / disagree. I will touch on two points. Provider and Hobbyist attitudes and brotherhood.
ATTITUDE.
It has already been said that a good provider with a good attitude has no trouble securing business and picking clients. Some on here think anything from a streetwalker to a $1000 hr provider is a "W-hore". I hate that word because society, mainly men, use it in a derogatory way to define a woman who enjoys sex. Damn we should be so lucky that we find a woman who likes it as much as we do. If this label is used on women sex workers, then in my opinion, the men who solicit them are also "W-hores". The difference between a good provider and street walkers and most BP escorts is attitude. If you treat a provider like a "W-hore" then you will get a Whoreable experience. These women have lives, feelings, complications, finances and they deserve respect from hobbyist because we should be gentlemen. Providers are in this biz mainly for three reasons. 1. To feed their or their SO's drug habit. 2. To earn a living because for whatever reason they or their SO can't or won't get a real job. 3. They do it part time, real job comes first, because they enjoy the sex and the company. I am talking about anything from a BP escort to a high end provider. I have become friends with many providers and enemies with some. The difference between the two was always attitude. The woman that felt they could treat me with disrespect, steal, lie and trick me, caused me to lose respect for them, thus the enemies. I have had disagreements with many providers and still remained friends mainly because of the attitude on both sides of the fence. So a provider with a good attitude deserves respect and you will have a much more enjoyable experience if you treat them like ladies. A hobbyist with a good attitude will earn the respect of the provider and she will provide a much more enjoyable experience. Mutual respect results in a better menu and a more intimate encounter, if that's what you are looking for. Those of you that just want to blow and go, that's great also. Do it but with some respect because "It's the right thing to do" as a gentleman.
BROTHERHOOD.
Now once a provider disrespects a client, for some of the reasons I indicated above, I think brotherhood should enter into the scenario. We all want to be warned about scammers and thieves. These are the easy ones. What about the ones that show extreme disrespect for a hobbyist. Many times the lines of disrespect are unclear, in many cases they should be, because most on this board are unknown to each other. But once a hobbyist has an issue and other hobbyist's can verify it's true then why not exercise brotherhood and use our power to "Cut Off" the poor attitude of the provider / escort / stripper? I know the answer will be "Why should I care about what happens to you"? Because we are in it together even though many of us are private and need extreme anonymity. If we weren't in it together we wouldn't be on this board sharing info and helping each other find pussy. Why continue to help a lady (used loosely) who has taken advantage of a hobbyist? We shouldn't continue to help because once again "It's the right thing to do". Many on this board follow the brotherhood and have helped others in bad situations. I have tried to stand by a wronged hobbyist and other hobbyist's have stood by me when I was wronged. I believe it's because everyone felt it was the right thing to do. Now a hobbyist that is out of control needs to also be dealt with. Yes there are some real A-Holes out there. If a hobbyist harms a provider or another hobbyist then they should be dealt with because once again it's the right thing to do.
There will be some who will disagree with my above two philosophies and that's ok. We all have our opinions and we can agree to disagree. My opinion is a simple one. Be a gentleman and treat others with respect because it's the right thing to do. But once disrespect is paramount then lets stick together and deal with it together.
FF.
P.S. Damn, I love a freckled provider with a great attitude!I was referred here by a post from a fellow member on the Greenville, South Carolina, site. I absolutely agree with your thoughts FF. They bear consideration by all who participate in this and on both sides, provider and client alike.
Well said!
Jeff.
Freckle Freak
12-20-15, 14:39
There are times when a client will make a false claim against a client, or will only tell one side of the story, or the roles might be reversed.
I think it's important to withhold judgment until all the facts are known. Too often, everyone grabs their pitchfork and runs to join the lynch mob. Other than the obvious scammers, most problems are isolated instances.I totally agree with you about this and didn't want you or anyone to think quick unsubstantiated reports required quick lynch mob action.
The best example of this is the fiasco that occurred this past summer with Leighton111 or Alex. NotDave, who deleted his membership on this board, claimed he was scammed by Alex. Many of us went after her and some achieved cheap or free sex from her. Another monger and I met with her and confronted her about the scam. She said some things that made me think so I did some research about him and after gathering some facts I called him out on his posts and he disappeared from the board. I discovered he was the primary scammer, not her. She had issues also but not like he did. The key thing I learned from the whole scenario was two fold.
1. He was a newer member in Indy with very few posts and no body knew him or questioned him. We all fell for what he said because he was in the brotherhood.
2. Research, research and more research which helps to clarify the facts.
So based on your comments and the circumstances from last summer what's needed is: Trust of the person presenting the report and some research into the claim, whether it be a provider or hobbyist. If certain people on this board made a claim about someone, provider or monger, I would most likely believe them because they have earned my respect and brotherhood. That also is part of the brotherhood.
FF.
P.S. I wish this brotherhood would find me some fine freckles!
DoggyStyle4690
12-20-15, 15:23
I've been around this thing of ours for a long, long time. Long before BP. Long before e.com; long before any of the other "dating" sites. I've been around long enough that I can tell you about the three MPs in Plainfield and I remember when the first yaw who group popped up back in the mid-90's. In those days a hobbyist either, for the most part, had to look in the phone book to find a service or come across something by word of mouth. At least that's how it worked for me.
One thing that always bothered me was, with every new encounter, no matter how much research was done, you never know what's on the other side of the door until it opens for the first time and I think this is true for providers as well. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like there's a lot more risk involved these days than there used to be, both from uncle and the scammers, dopers, and thieves, so due diligence is essential.
Like someone else said, I've known a lot of providers, became friends with a few, and also had LTR with a couple after they left the business. Over the years I've always kept a low profile (which is why I rarely post on ANY board), never was a frequent flier, and never felt like I needed to sample every new face that popped up. When I was more active in the hobby, I always found 2-3 providers I liked and could trust to a degree and I stayed with them until it got boring or they left the business.
This worked for me because it minimized the risks involved and I always knew, for the most part, what to expect. Besides that, it saved a lot of time. Another advantage is, if you find the right one (s), over time, the encounters are more comfortable and tend to be, or at least seem to be, more intimate.
Just my two cents. YMMV.
Thanks for all the info, guys. My questions were mostly about research and they were answered in this thread (after I did some research.) Yes, I am new and live south of the city. I have seen 2 movies to date, one good and one not so good. No movie reviews here though as the movies I went to see were out of state. Anyhow, I appreciate the experience given out here. Live and learn.
Freckle Freak
01-07-16, 07:30
I thought this was good advice and belonged in this thread.
Her: "Do you have the donation?
You: "I do, but I always donate at the end. " Optional: "It helps me calculate an extra tip if the service is exceptional".
Her: "I am sorry, I always require the donation up-front. ".
You: "I am sorry, that is not going to work for me. Please have a nice day. ".
And than you leave. No matter how hot she is or how hard your di*k is. No matter how many times you have seen her in the past. Because she can disappear from the fun zone at any given time and reappear in the danger zone instantly.
Do not get into any arguments / discussions about "her being ripped off" in the past or "you getting cash-and-dashed" in the past. It will be a back-and-forth useless stalemate conversation. You don't care about the other guys that have ripped her off and she doesn't care about the other girls that have scammed you. Your rule is clean and simple about "Paying after playing". And let's be honest; If this conversation is being had with her, than the rest of the encounter was either going to be mediocre or non-existent anyways and you need to turn around and leave anyways.
Yes, I have had the convo that I am preaching MANY times and have walked away MANY times.
No Outcalls to your private residence.
If you happen to do a outcall to your hotel, do NOT fall for:
"I just need the donation to pay my cabbie / sister / driver / pimp / uber driver. " Nope.
"You can hold my keys / wallet / purse / rabbits foot to make sure I come back" Nope.
" I will strip down to just my underwear / swimsuit & than you can donate. " Nope.
She will gladly trade that fake collateral for your $$$ and run.
And no outcalls to your private residence.FF.
P.S. Hey Romeo have you found any freckles for me?
I thought this was good advice and belonged in this thread.
FF.
P.S. Hey Romeo have you found any freckles for me?I am still looking for you! Lucky for you, I prefer the non-freckled blonde spinners, so that means more freckles for you!
BTW, I should have added one more item to my previous post:
Exchanging donation or talking donation upfront is also a good way for you to stay with Uncle LEO for a short term.
Don't be a dummy. Avoid Uncle LEO.
Freckle Freak
01-11-16, 07:19
I saw the below post from a senior hobbyist in Louisville who has decided to retire and felt it was some good advice for this forum.
I will come back for the next few days to check and respond to PM's, but after that, I am out of the hobby for now.
I have met someone, started a relationship, and want to see it through. Whether it lasts a week or a lifetime, obviously I cannot say at this point. But, while I like variety, if I commit I have to commit. Just me.
As I recall, I had a rough start on this board. But, over the years many of you have embraced me and provided me with invaluable insights that have made my hobbying far more tolerable than it otherwise would have been. I thank you. All of you. Even the ones that gave me shitty recommendations. I learned not to trust you as having the same taste as me. LOL.
Couple of words of advice for noobs and for some seniors that still just don't get it:
1. If it looks TGTBT, it is.
2. Ripoff chicks are ripoff chicks. Period. You are not THAT cute.
3. You cannot change them. Maybe Jesus can. You ain't Him.
4. Always remember, when you are having sex and they are moaning and shit, they did not pick you. You just paid them for that.
5. Noobs. Don't ask until you tell.
6. Post pics and links with reviews. It helps the rest of us.
7. For many girls, you ARE facilitating bad habits. Think about it.
8. Providers are people too. Whatever you think of them and their morals, understand yours are at exactly the same level. Treat them well and with respect.
9. Finally, never ever see anyone without first doing your homework. READ THE FUCKING FORUM ("RTFF") If that fails, google the pics then tineye them. Google their phone number. If all that fails, BAIL THE FUCK OUT. It is not worth the risk. Let some other sucker go down. But, if the pics and number come back clean, go with your gut. It is your obligation to the board to occasionally take one for the team ("TOFTT") I know sometimes it seems like a pain in the ass. But, your picture in Crime Times would probably be worse and getting robbed only slightly less so.FF.
P.S. 10. Always let the board know if you find freckles!
I don't think this was mentioned. Length of time and donation for that time. Get that info before meeting in person. Again, just the amount of the donation for what amount of time. Don't get any more elaborate than that.
Freckle Freak
01-30-16, 18:54
There is a blog called Ursula the Sea Witch in the Louisville forum with a link below. It can be a learning tool for many, newbies, first time posters and all us old mongers. It's an example of the hobby and addiction. Enjoy but don't beat me up too bad, please.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?19493-Ursula-The-Sea-Witch&p=2762755&viewfull=1#post2762755
FF.
P.S. I should have stuck with freckles!
Freckle Freak
02-13-16, 08:53
Just got back from seeing her (Leslie / Daisy). Apartment is pretty awful, felt gross walking over to the mattress in the living room without socks.Rule#1 When it's filthy, keep your socks on. Rule#2 When they are an addict, keep your shoes on, just in case dirty needles are on the floor. Question #1 If the bathroom is filthy, then where does she shower between appointments?
Now for some humor in regards to providers who supply BBBJCIM and BBFS. Now I know all of you are special, the only one, she can tell you are clean, safe, that you only do this with her because she is special. Hmmm does she feel the same way about you? Of course she does! So here are some things I take along and remember when seeing that special lady in my life where I am the ONLY special hobbyist in her life.
One: I bring my own antiseptic mouth wash! I like her to use it before we kiss so I can't taste the last monger.
Two: I need to arrive early before the provider of choice has seen anybody else and hope she doesn't have a BF or SO who likes wake up sex!
Three: Since I love DATY, I realize I risk becoming much more intimate with several of you mongers than I personally wanted to be!
Four: I pack douche with me and it's now the beginning of any foreplay! To show how much I respect my fellow mongers who follow me, I will bring an extra bottle and make sure she uses it before I leave.
Five: I promise to lick up anything that I spill on her or inside of her.
Six: I realize that snowballing now takes on a whole new meaning if I'm not the first visitor of the day! (don't forget #1).
Seven: Does this mean that we all are not really hobbyists but are really cum eating cuckolds?
You never know what the caboose is like until you have trailed another monger, so happy trails to you, until we meet again!
BigGuyUAteMe
02-13-16, 14:45
Anyone that follows another monger, or cleans up his mess in her is a Gravy eater!
BG.
Rule#1 When it's filthy, keep your socks on. Rule#2 When they are an addict, keep your shoes on, just in case dirty needles are on the floor. Question #1 If the bathroom is filthy, then where does she shower between appointments?
Now for some humor in regards to providers who supply BBBJCIM and BBFS. Now I know all of you are special, the only one, she can tell you are clean, safe, that you only do this with her because she is special. Hmmm does she feel the same way about you? Of course she does! So here are some things I take along and remember when seeing that special lady in my life where I am the ONLY special hobbyist in her life.
One: I bring my own antiseptic mouth wash! I like her to use it before we kiss so I can't taste the last monger.
Two: I need to arrive early before the provider of choice has seen anybody else and hope she doesn't have a BF or SO who likes wake up sex!
Three: Since I love DATY, I realize I risk becoming much more intimate with several of you mongers than I personally wanted to be!
Four: I pack douche with me and it's now the beginning of any foreplay! To show how much I respect my fellow mongers who follow me, I will bring an extra bottle and make sure she uses it before I leave.
Five: I promise to lick up anything that I spill on her or inside of her.
Six: I realize that snowballing now takes on a whole new meaning if I'm not the first visitor of the day! (don't forget #1).
Seven: Does this mean that we all are not really hobbyists but are really cum eating cuckolds?
You never know what the caboose is like until you have trailed another monger, so happy trails to you, until we meet again!
I just spent the last 45 minutes reading this story, FF you should be a writer.
There is a blog called Ursula the Sea Witch in the Louisville forum with a link below. It can be a learning tool for many, newbies, first time posters and all us old mongers. It's an example of the hobby and addiction. Enjoy but don't beat me up too bad, please.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?19493-Ursula-The-Sea-Witch&p=2762755&viewfull=1#post2762755
FF.
P.S. I should have stuck with freckles!
Hi, I'm still fairly new to all this and I was thinking of setting up an account with either p411 or Date-Check, but I can't make a decision on which to get.
Any advice or personal experience using these?
Thanks,
J.
IndyGuy123
03-03-16, 20:38
Hi, I'm still fairly new to all this and I was thinking of setting up an account with either p411 or Date-Check, but I can't make a decision on which to get.
Any advice or personal experience using these?
Thanks,
J.Opinions will vary here but this monger would say P411. Just more options there in the Indy area plus many ladies on P411 offer discounts for members. If you are traveling and hobbying elsewhere, one of these other guys may offer a better opinion. Personally, I say don't waste the money on either one. You can via the ladies without a membership. Most of them have their own websites or advertise elsewhere and as long as you are able to go through their screening, you can see them without either of these. If you see a lady on either that interests you, look her up on TER, find her contact info there and just contact her directly.
If you hang around our little joint here long enough to become a senior, I will gladly accept a couple beers at a SC for the money you saved on membership fees.
Indy Guy.
Freckle Freak
03-04-16, 07:30
In the future please RESPECT what seniors say because we are trying to help you.
?How do you know this? Are you the police?
SuperFun's comment is an example of why there are Newbies and 4 time posters. There are senior members who have been around for a while and have ties to the hobby that Newbies just don't understand and won't until they develop experience and a reputation. I am putting this here because the information provided by Indyguy was very accurate and another monger on this board knew exactly when she was released from uncle.
Are you a dumbass or a newbie? BG,
BigGuys comment is right on because he is a Newbie with 4 posts. Jackson wants all of these Newbies on this site and so do all of us old dogs who are trying to teach all you young pups the best way to find the best bone in the lot. That's why we started this thread to help you out. If you had read this blog it might have saved you from this stupid comment.
Start at the bottom of the blog and work your way up. There is a lot of experience here to help you.
Hi, I'm still fairly new to all this and I was thinking of setting up an account with either p411 or Date-Check, but I can't make a decision on which to get.
Any advice or personal experience using these?
Thanks,
J.P411 is widely considered to be the more bulletproof option, easier to search by login date of the provider so you know who's actually active (DC keeps profiles forever it seems, so many providers haven't worked in years). I haven't seen many providers that won't accept a P411 recommendation. However, it is expensive. For the cost of a one year membership you can get a lifetime membership at DC.
DC is butt ugly to look at and doesn't have messaging capabilities, but it is also widely accepted. Not as much as P411, but it's up there. Recently heard some ladies say that they prefer the men's review capabilities for them much better than P411 because they can give guys a real rating so they can know if a guy was a really good client or a real jackass. P411 apparently is more plus or minus and the ladies get pressured to give a thumbs up or lose their access.
If you see a provider with a P411 account and get in without having one, ask her to shoot you a free trial membership note - 6 months you can see how it works and whether it opens doors you wouldn't have been able to open otherwise.
Thanks for the info guys, really appreciate it.
J.
Freckle Freak
03-04-16, 18:59
If you see a BP ad with links at the bottom as in the example below, then they are linked because they are using the same e-mail address and / or Backpage account to place the ads. Thus they know each other or they have someone who is placing ads for both of them from the same account. So linked provider ads know each other in some way. This is a key item when doing research. If a new ad comes up linked to another ad of a scam provider then your risk factor goes up ten fold with the new provider. It's great for catching mistakes from idiot providers who sometimes link in multiple cities and multiple ads, one mono-freckled, one blond and one another type. Just another search mechanism to use.
Thanks MWDude for your suggestion to move it here.
http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/young-cuteand-newsee-what-your-missing/12184746
I have a question, I've gone out twice both times with fairly mediocre results. I think the problem was bad communication on my part and poor quality on there's. My question is: if I pay for an hour how likely will the pro be to let me pop more than once?Not likely at all unless discussed beforehand. Most will want more money, just the nature of the game. Once you get to be a gals regular, and she's comfortable with you, it's more likely to happen.
I have a question, I've gone out twice both times with fairly mediocre results. I think the problem was bad communication on my part and poor quality on there's. My question is: if I pay for an hour how likely will the pro be to let me pop more than once?The answer is it depends.
First of all, while not always true, generally just like in everything else if you go with a quality and likely more expensive lady you're probably going to get a better experience, while if you go on the cheap you're more often going to have corners cut or just not be very good at all. And not even that is always true, but it's a guideline.
As for MSOG, if you're with a quality provider many will be fine with that if you mention it discreetly beforehand (like after she's screened you and is more comfortable. Just don't make it too obvious). However, if you last like 45 minutes on the first one, they're going to assume it's going to take you more than 10 minutes for the next one and probably not give it to you. But if you knock one out quickly because you're so friggin horny that a stiff wind might get you off, then a good provider will most likely give you another round.
Bad providers are bad providers, and they're not going to give you much of anything, and they'll say you pay for their time beforehand but will make it about one go in person because that's easier for them.
Freckle Freak
03-05-16, 10:22
Good questions and multiple answers. I quoted both of your questions and will delete your posts to save some space. Newbies let's take these type of questions to the General Forum posts so we can save this blog for giving information and advice. We don't want to end up with 100's of pages of questions to sort through the advice.
I was hoping for some advice, I'm pretty new to this scene, I've been on two outings both were just ok which leads me to my question. Is it typical to get an entire hour regardless of how many times you pop? Or is that variable?
I have a question, I've gone out twice both times with fairly mediocre results. I think the problem was bad communication on my part and poor quality on there's. My question is: if I pay for an hour how likely will the pro be to let me pop more than once?If it's a BP one hour outing you can normally expect a one and done. Indy Tech was correct about questions before the session. MWdudes advice as usual is right on. As indicated in previous advice in this blog. The session should always start with some conversation about service type and what you get for the length of service. Most mongers will take the HHR on a new provider to see how the experience goes. If a BP provider has been reviewed on the board then you probably will have a good indication of the services and what's included in the amount of time spent. Remember if you are seeing an unknown BP provider then a TOFTT can be anything from a cash and dash to MSOG GFE great experience. Now with mainstream providers you should normally expect MSOG in your allotted time. However it's always a good idea to read reviews and ask questions of these providers. Mainstream providers normally are use to service discussions or have good reviews that lay these services out.
I don't do AMPs or massage services so I cannot comment intelligently about them but I would think the likely hood based on what I have read in the past is it's mostly one and done but asking questions is again the best thing to do. Maybe some of the AMP and Massage aficionados can chime in about this.
Wyoming I have a question, if you have had two experiences why haven't you shared them with the board? We would appreciate your information from the experience.
Want to finally pop in and say Hi to everyone. Long time reader here that would like to say Thanks for the info.
And taking the time to pass it on. I hope to be able to add some more info that will help us all in what we're after.
Welcome to the wonderful world of mongering. Today's lesson is on AMP Etiquette. AMP stands for Asian Massage Parlor.
First, let's clear up a common misconception, every AMP does not offer something beyond a massage. Some barely offer a massage. Finding a location that offers everything you want requires lots of research and frequent disappointment.
I'll assume you've taken the time to RTFF and have found a likely location. Now it's time for your first visit. Here's the step-by-step guide to increase your chances of a happy ending.
1. Preparation. Take a shower. I've been told westerners, even when clean smell different to Asians. If the masseuse has to hold her nose, your massage will suffer. On the way, make certain you have enough cash. As a general rule, you should have at least $100, this covers the hour massage and the standard tip for minimum happiness. Double the amount if you hope to achieve full satisfaction happiness.
2. Arrival. If it's your first visit, do a drive by to locate the business. A car creeping through the parking lot looks suspicious. This allows you to drive in with confidence, on the off chance someone is watching it looks like you are a repeat customer.
3. Entry. Most AMPs require you to pass through 2 doors, at least 1 will be locked. Look around for the buzzer or doorbell. Ring once and wait. Once someone comes to open the door, you'll either be ushered inside or be asked to come back later. No matter which, smile and greet the woman. Attitude at this point is crucial. If you're asked to come back later, don't argue or beg. Find out how long and tell her okay. If you don't have the time, save your money for another day.
4. Payment. Either just before or after being led to the massage room you'll be asked how long you want and you'll have to pay. This is another important point. The experienced customer knows (with a few exceptions) 30 minutes is $40,60 is $60. If you're new, take the full hour, it will help you get more comfortable. On the off chance the price is $70, just tell her you didn't know the price went up. It covers the slip and suggests you are an old customer.
5. In the room. Usually you'll be left alone to undress. You don't need to wait until she's gone, just get started, she's going to see everything soon enough. Strip and lay on the table face down. There's probably a towel on the table. Rookies use it to cover their ass, everyone else just moves it out of the way. One note, have your tip somewhere easy to get to, some want cash in hand before anything else in hand.
5 a. Table shower. If a table shower is offered, take it. It's going to help you relax and it's going to give you an indication of how the massage will progress. If she avoids washing anywhere improper, you're probably out of luck. On the other hand, if she goes out of her way to make sure you're clean, it's going to be a good day.
6. Massage. In my experience, most massages start with the masseuse standing at the head end of the table, and they will rub from your shoulders down to your butt. For this reason I lay with my hands dangling off the table by my head. This allows me to reach out and start testing the boundaries. Don't get too greedy, keep it gentle and stay outside the thighs. You can roam higher and lower as she gets used to your touch. Unless she moves to get your hand between her legs, stay away, for now. If you go too fast she'll shut you down. During the massage I try to keep one hand in contact.
7. The tease. After she moves to the side of the table, hopefully, comes the tease. This occurs one of two ways. Either she will see how far around your ass crack goes or she will see how far up your leg goes. To make the most of the tease, you should adjust your compass needle so it's pointing south and to the same side she is on. Warning. Some will offer to check your oil level at this point. React according to your wishes.
8. The flip. Eventually you'll be asked or gestured to turn over. Now you find out if you've done everything right. Many places will just point and ask. They will then point to the various options and hold up fingers to indicate the tip for that option. If you see an option you can't quite afford, tell her "I only have X dollars. " Maybe she will give you the "next time you bring more" line and give you the discount, or she might offer an extra with the lower priced option to get all your money.
9. Self service. Occasionally, at seeing your anatomy standing at attention you'll be told to take matters in your own hands. Some people will take her hand and place it and insist. I don't recommend this approach, because that's an uncle move. Either decline and probably have your time cut short, or go ahead and take your time. After a few minutes she might pitch in to speed things along. If nothing else, it establishes you're not a member of uncle's family. This could factor in for future visits.
10. Limits. Each AMP and each masseuse has their limits and they may change for each visit. One girl who wouldn't let my hands get anywhere interesting, dropped her pants and placed my hand in her crotch on the next visit. Another went from BBBJ to self service. If you get told no, respect it and take what's offered. You might be in for a surprise next time.
Now go out and TOFTT.
About once every week I get a message in my inbox that goes something like "I can't decipher the codes can you tell me where AMP xyz is?" Almost every request comes from a user with 0 posts. Usually I ignore them. If they won't even take the time to introduce themselves to the board, why should I take the time to educate them?
However, in the completely misguided belief this will stop all those messages, I've decided to write a tutorial on how to crack the codes.
If you've ever ridden down the highway listening to the truckers talking on the CB, you might have felt the same confusion. One driver is heading to shaky and another is talking about a bad wreck he saw on cabbage, which gets someone else talking about grapevine. If you don't speak the language, it makes no sense. Shaky is Los Angeles, Cabbage is Emigrant Pass in eastern Oregon, and Grapevine is the hill north of Shaky on I-5 (also mentioned in the song "Hot Rod Lincoln" Most of it makes sense once you learn the code.
The Indy AMP code is no different, except there are a few problems. Some of the AMPs have changed names or no longer advertise. This makes it difficult to figure them out. Others advertise, but don't mention the name in the ad. However, the majority can be figured out one of 3 ways, spa name, spa neighbors or spa suite number (more specifically letter).
Part of cracking the code requires effort on your part. First read the forum, not just the last 10 posts, but go back 6 months or a year. This will clear up some of the codes because the places are identified in more than one way. It will also increase your knowledge level, always a good thing.
The other work you should do is to go and check out the AMPs yourself, not just the one that someone just posted a review for, but all of them, at least the ones near your preferred area. This will not only help crack the code in many places, but it will familiarize you with the location. Do you really want to get all excited about an AMP visit only to bump into your brother in law, who works next door?
Before running around town, pop up different AMP addresses on Google Maps. If there's a Midas shop next door, you probably just found the Muffler Shop.
Probably the one place you won't crack is "mermaid", the name is changed and they don't mention the name in their ads. Of course, if you noticed that Mermaid has also been called Popeyes, and find a location northwest very close to a chicken place, you might figure it out. If you venture south from there, you can also find Angel and Ni (or Ni Ni, or the Knights who say Ni). But you won't figure these things out unless you're willing to put forth some effort. As for "H", there is only one AMP in town with "H" in the address, you can find their ads on either BP or CL. It's not that difficult.
The big question is, "Why don't you just tell us?" If it's not that hard to figure out, it's not exactly a secret. Others might have a different answer, this is mine.
I enjoy AMPs, if I could afford it, I'd visit 5 times per week or more. If I just told everyone who asked, "this is the address, she does this, this and this for this price", someone will show up there, walk in and say give me this, because I know you do it. Next thing the place is either raided or has stopped all extras because of the people demanding extras. If you have to put a little bit of effort in, then you're more likely to appreciate the service and treat the girl properly. This keeps her happy, which means she will continue to keep me happy.
So, read the reviews, look at the ads, try to find the ad that matches, go out and visit some places and before you pm me asking "where is H" write some reviews.
Or just ask for my address. You can come by, give me money and I'll squirt some baby oil on you.
Theo Guderian
03-08-16, 20:29
Or just ask for my address. You can come by, give me money and I'll squirt some baby oil on you.Absolutely classic! A true Mother Fucking G!
Freckle Freak
03-10-16, 17:40
Thanks for taking the time to write these 2 lengthy posts, J. Although I don't have a ton of AMP experience, I've felt confident and comfortable during my excursions because of the information I've obtained from this site. As you eluded to, most of the locations can be discovered via a little common sense detective work and effort (but mostly effort). If someone reads your AMP 101 post and still isn't sure how to act and what to do, then they probably should just stay home. Seriously -- stay home.
Anyways, thanks again -- this should make it a lot easier for those out there that haven't tried an AMP before.The quote out and deleted to save space.
Freckle Freak
03-10-16, 17:43
This is what this section is for, contributions from those that know the ropes.
This is what this section is for, contributions from those that know the ropes.I thought the bondage section was for those who know the ropes.
I thought the bondage section was for those who know the ropes.I asked my lawyer what she thought, but she was tied up in court.
Freckle Freak
03-15-16, 07:07
I will be going to LV in six weeks and have a general question.This forum is for information. Questions should be addressed in the general forum.
Several times a week, someone will link an ad asking for information about a BP provider. Usually something along the lines of, "She looks awesome. Has anyone seen her?" The link will be an ad with, what should be obvious, fake pictures.
There are two types of fake pictures. The first is clear and sharp, sometimes with the face blurred. The body is perfect, lighting just right, hair and makeup professionally done. Looks like a model, or a top shelf porn actress. There's a reason for this. The pictures are of a model or a top shelf porn actress. Your chances of finding a supermodel working out of an eastside dump for $140/ hr are about the same as your chance of waking up to find you've grown a vagina on your palm. For many of those ads you won't find anyone, they are picture collecters, people getting traffic for a website or scam artists. You're wasting your time.
The other obvious fakes are the grainy, blurry pictures, that look like they were taken with a cheap Polaroid, 25 years ago. They are heavily pixelated and difficult to see clearly. These are snaps, or grabs from other pictures. Here's how it works. You're a provider, or more likely a pimp and you see an ad for a provider that looks like your girl looked before a combination of meth and twinkies turned her into an extra for "The Walking Dead". So you do a screen capture of the pictures, or if you're not smart enough for that, you take a picture of the screen with your flip phone. The picture you have is too small, so you scale it up to a bigger size. Except that doesn't work. When you're taking a picture and zoom in, you are capturing more detail. When you zoom in on a picture, there is no more detail available, all you're doing is spreading out the detail. When you respond to these ads you will probably find a provider who looks something like the picture, same number of arms, legs, eyes and ears, maybe less teeth, more warts.
Attached are 3 examples. The first is from one of the Asian incall ads (which have been reported as legit). This is a model picture and is not the person who will meet you at the door. Google finds the image on several Chinese picture sites.
Next is the zoomed image from a screen capture. The only thing you can be certain of is, you won't find this girl if you respond to this ad.
The last one is probably a reasonably honest escort picture. It's clear and sharp, but obviously amateur. There's a good chance the person who answers the door looks like the picture, maybe older, maybe heavier, maybe a different hair color, but still the same person.
I'm not recommending for or against any of these, they are just some examples I grabbed from BP. Do your research.
Several times a week, someone will link an ad asking for information about a BP provider. Usually something along the lines of, "She looks awesome. Has anyone seen her?" The link will be an ad with, what should be obvious, fake pictures.
There are two types of fake pictures. The first is clear and sharp, sometimes with the face blurred. The body is perfect, lighting just right, hair and makeup professionally done. Looks like a model, or a top shelf porn actress. There's a reason for this. The pictures are of a model or a top shelf porn actress. Your chances of finding a supermodel working out of an eastside dump for $140/ hr are about the same as your chance of waking up to find you've grown a vagina on your palm. For many of those ads you won't find anyone, they are picture collecters, people getting traffic for a website or scam artists. You're wasting your time.
The other obvious fakes are the grainy, blurry pictures, that look like they were taken with a cheap Polaroid, 25 years ago. They are heavily pixelated and difficult to see clearly. These are snaps, or grabs from other pictures. Here's how it works. You're a provider, or more likely a pimp and you see an ad for a provider that looks like your girl looked before a combination of meth and twinkies turned her into an extra for "The Walking Dead". So you do a screen capture of the pictures, or if you're not smart enough for that, you take a picture of the screen with your flip phone. The picture you have is too small, so you scale it up to a bigger size. Except that doesn't work. When you're taking a picture and zoom in, you are capturing more detail. When you zoom in on a picture, there is no more detail available, all you're doing is spreading out the detail. When you respond to these ads you will probably find a provider who looks something like the picture, same number of arms, legs, eyes and ears, maybe less teeth, more warts.
Attached are 3 examples. The first is from one of the Asian incall ads (which have been reported as legit). This is a model picture and is not the person who will meet you at the door. Google finds the image on several Chinese picture sites.
Next is the zoomed image from a screen capture. The only thing you can be certain of is, you won't find this girl if you respond to this ad.
The last one is probably a reasonably honest escort picture. It's clear and sharp, but obviously amateur. There's a good chance the person who answers the door looks like the picture, maybe older, maybe heavier, maybe a different hair color, but still the same person.
I'm not recommending for or against any of these, they are just some examples I grabbed from BP. Do your research.Just saying, but Leah is very real, looks better than that pic, which is recent and a whole bunch of fun if memory serves me right. So to sum it up, you are dead on point.
Cephlapod Love
03-23-16, 10:11
Several times a week, someone will link an ad asking for information about a BP provider. Usually something along the lines of, "She looks awesome. Has anyone seen her?" The link will be an ad with, what should be obvious, fake pictures.
Good info and suggestions!
Ah, sorry to barge in on this thread, the pictures caught my eye and brought me here.
The best advice I can offer from my experience on internet "dating" can be found in the 23 Rules created here:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?13919-My-Suggestions.-Rules-For-BackPage
If anyone has something to add or other experiences, comments are welcome.
I hope we all can learn from each other!
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Thanks!
As members of this community, we all have an obligation to provide reviews and reports of our experiences. Without the reviews this place will quickly fall apart. This has already happened on many city's boards. Look at the Houston, TX board. A city of 2 million and only the massage parlor thread has had any activity in the last week. Even that thread has less than 600 reports, compared to our 7200 reports.
If you want this board to continue to be useful, post your reports. If you want your reports to be useful, here's some advice.
KISS: Keep it simple stud, because if you take the time to read the whole thread, you're obviously not stupid. You're not writing a novel and it's not a porn script. The size of your penis isn't relevant. Cover the following basic information:
Communication. Problems? Clarity? Does she accept texts? Were there any concerns you had?
Location. Did you feel like you had stumbled onto the set of "Escape From New York"? Hotel, motel, private residence?
Photos. Did the 9. 5 in the photo turn into a 2. 5 at the door? Did the 125# girl pack on an extra 100# after the picture was taken?
Company. Was anyone else present, or nearby? Is she sharing a room with another provider or a pimp / bf? Did you have any interaction with the company?
Cleanliness. Both the room and the provider. Odors? Trash? Animals? Rotting corpses? Cigarette smoke or pet hair can cause problems for some and nobody wants to smell a neglected litter box while trying to get their rocks off.
Service. Did it feel like the first time with a new girlfriend or the last time with an ex-wife? Was it mechanical, stroke 2 minutes, BJ 2 minutes, Mish 3 minutes, doggy 3 minutes, "are you done yet"? Or was it an open menu? Did she direct or let you take charge? Did she act like she enjoyed it, or couldn't wait to get it over with?
Provider. A lot of the providers out there, especially on BP are worse for wear. Stretch marks, sagging everywhere, no muscle tone, needle marks, bad tattoos, the list goes on. While none of these things may matter to you, they are deal breakers for others. Cover the basics.
Lastly, keep it objective. If you weren't happy with the experience, don't turn it into a vendetta, just explain the problem. If you had a great visit, don't turn it into a PR campaign. As Joe Friday used to say, "Just the facts. ".
Hey, I'm still a bit new to this forums, and I've been trying to use search as much as possible (even though going though 60 second wait every time) but I'm just having some shitty time using the search option.
Maybe some more senior experts on the search function can give some help? I use the name provider uses on BP, I use the last 4 of her phone number, nothing. It might be that I'm just searching for stuff that no one has even talked about before, but I'm not sure how likely that is with such an active Indy board.
Maybe there is a nice post someone already wrote up that you can point me towards.
As an example: I'm trying to find something about Khloe (http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/khloe/7221265), so I go to backpage review section, I type in Khloe, 0492 hit that search button, nothing comes up. I know not everyone posts a name / last 4 of provided phone, sometimes just the link, maybe that's what I'm hitting.
Any advice would be appreciated.
J.
IndyGuy123
03-30-16, 02:55
Hey, I'm still a bit new to this forums, and I've been trying to use search as much as possible (even though going though 60 second wait every time) but I'm just having some shitty time using the search option.
Maybe some more senior experts on the search function can give some help? I use the name provider uses on BP, I use the last 4 of her phone number, nothing. It might be that I'm just searching for stuff that no one has even talked about before, but I'm not sure how likely that is with such an active Indy board.
Maybe there is a nice post someone already wrote up that you can point me towards.
As an example: I'm trying to find something about Khloe (http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/khloe/7221265), so I go to backpage review section, I type in Khloe, 0492 hit that search button, nothing comes up. I know not everyone posts a name / last 4 of provided phone, sometimes just the link, maybe that's what I'm hitting.
Any advice would be appreciated.
J.It sounds like you are doing right on the name. Only a select few of the reports have the phone in it. Do you have any more examples of failed searches. The example you gave, I cannot remember ever being reviewed here.
Indy Guy.
It sounds like you are doing right on the name. Only a select few of the reports have the phone in it. Do you have any more examples of failed searches. The example you gave, I cannot remember ever being reviewed here.
Indy Guy.I know there were a few, but nothing comes up at the moment, probably because it's 6 am. If I remember or come upon another one, I will comment on this post. But thanks for confirming that at least I'm not a complete idiot.
J.
Hey, I'm still a bit new to this forums, and I've been trying to use search as much as possible (even though going though 60 second wait every time) but I'm just having some shitty time using the search option.
Maybe some more senior experts on the search function can give some help? I use the name provider uses on BP, I use the last 4 of her phone number, nothing. It might be that I'm just searching for stuff that no one has even talked about before, but I'm not sure how likely that is with such an active Indy board.
Maybe there is a nice post someone already wrote up that you can point me towards.
As an example: I'm trying to find something about Khloe (http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/khloe/7221265), so I go to backpage review section, I type in Khloe, 0492 hit that search button, nothing comes up. I know not everyone posts a name / last 4 of provided phone, sometimes just the link, maybe that's what I'm hitting.
Any advice would be appreciated.
J.My advice is stick with the name. You can try the last four of the phone if a name doesn't pop up. And as IG said, it's possible there isn't a review. If Khloe has been reviewed, it's been a while. But I'm pretty sure those pics have been advertising as Khloe for quite a while now, for whatever that is worth.
It is a good thing to point out to mongers to help searches. To include provider names and last four of the phone somewhere in the message. A search function is only as good as the data it is searching.
Freckle Freak
04-01-16, 06:47
Some of you have really screwed the pooch lately. I know it's difficult to play the game of how to determine if the ad is going to get you what you want when you visit, but really some of the dumb stuff that I have heard lately has already amazed me and blacklisted some of you.
Contacting New Ads: You see a NEW ad for a provider on BP, USA ACA, Er*s, Etc. Not one that has been reviewed, talked about or promoted before, again research is the key. What do you do. Contact them the way they specify in the ad. It's simple. If they want text only, use texts. If they want calls only, then call. If they want e-mails only then e-mail. If they don't specify then it's open season on how you want to contact them. But don't get pissy if you text and never hear back when the ad says Calls Only. You can try anything you want but if you don't follow the ad, you may never hear back.
Contacting Established Ads: The ads can be several places just like new ads and the method of contacting them is similar, just follow the ad's request. The ads for established providers like Heidi, Jordan, Aurora, Mmgeg, Bre Sexi, Leah even Sabrina's are ads for "established" providers. Why are they established, because there are multiple reviews / postings about them, you just have to look. Yes even Sabrina was discussed and pics posted for almost a week before she was available. It was clear that she was safe. I even put up a post in the proper forum, with a link an hour after her first appointment. She is known as a traveling provider and they do frequent the area from time to time so get used to doing the research. If someone like Ilapp is discussing her arrival you can bet that once she arrives she is safe, real and ready for business.
No Verification: Many BP ladies don't require verification. That's why LE has a field day with them. I was once told by a BP lady to bring her a pack of cigarettes because that way she knew I wasn't Uncle. That's how ignorant some of these ladies can be. If they don't ask for verification, then go ahead and set up the appointment, but then it's a somewhat risky TOFTT if there is no info about them from your research. Research is very important here so go to the research section of this blog and read how to do it.
Verification Required Unknown Provider: If the provider is not known then what they ask for and what you give them can be debatable depending on their request and your comfort level of their request. For many of you personal information, real phone numbers, workplace information, e-mail addresses are out of the question, but then you may not see them so don't get pissy. It's your choice. If they ask for provider references then be prepared to give them that info. I personally feel that if a provider asks for personal info and through my extensive research I find little to no info on them, then I will pass because it's either LE or a scam. I just won't waste my time with it.
Verification Required Known Providers: The ones that are known, are safe, have been reviewed or discussed then be prepared to comply with their verification process. It could include many things like a real phone number, workplace info, e-mail address etc. If they don't ask for other provider references then don't give them any because they obviously don't use them. If you don't like their verification process then you have a choice, provide it or don't see them. Don't send endless texts of multiple provider references to someone who really doesn't use them, it pisses them off! Some verified providers prefer to be called to discuss the verification process, some prefer texts, some e-mails. Follow their instructions. They are doing this for their safety as well as yours. What is really stupid is calling them on your real phone number and giving them a made up name. Now you are blocked because they normally know your real name. Again it's all about choices and the reliability and safety of the provider. The Kitty Club has a stringent verification process but it's safe so again it's your choice.
Contact Etiquette Unknown Providers: Ask unknown providers anything you want but just be aware it may cause you to be blocked. Asking if they suck dick and swallow will probably get you blocked and may get you arrested if by chance it was LE on the other end. No incriminating texts or convo's, wait until you are there. A lot of this is explained earlier in this blog so read it. I normally ask if FS is available and then wait until I am there to ask more about the menu so I can get a feel for the provider and situation. You can always walk away.
Contact Etiquette Established Providers: Calling or texting with known, reviewed, discussed and / or established providers requires some common sense. If you don't know what is offered from the research then your research probably sucks! Sabrina was discussed but the full menu was not, however it was made pretty clear that she was FS and most likely GFE. Things like greek and fetishes were not discussed but they are not a real common discussion and normally come out in reports later by those who partake if the provider provides these services. Now here is the issue that occurred recently. Don't text a provider asking about an appointment and then wait hours to return their text. These are not "unknown" BP ladies. They are more professional, so be quick in your responses. We all hate it when our texts go to crickets, well the good providers do also. Be responsive in a timely fashion so the provider doesn't feel like they are getting the run around, which is something we don't like either. The other thing is if you are having an inappropriate dialogue either through texts or a conversation and they ask you to stop, then STOP! Continuing on with this type of dialogue will only get you blacklisted. If you are dumb enough to continue on and they then refuse to see you, and then you tell them it's ok because you just came from watching their porn movie, don't get all pissy because you can no longer, ever and forever, see them because of your stupidity!
They Do Talk to Each Other Last but not least, most established providers communicate with each other. If you want to post about big noses on this board, or how someone must be unsafe because they did a porn movie in the past, or you want to push the personal limits and discretions of a young inexperienced provider by requesting personal pics or videos, then just be prepared for the fallout. Because they talk, because they know each other, your comments about one may BAN you from several. It's not always going to be evident. They may tell you to go away or your texts and calls may just go unanswered. It was your choice to say and do what you want, it's their choice to not see you now or ever again.
Oh by the way if you call a provider and they don't answer then they are either busy, a flake and not answering calls, or you have been blocked. Try calling providers several times, most call you back if they aren't flakes. Don't be a pest and call every 5 minutes but, once an hour and four or five times a day is not inappropriate. Texting a few times a day is also OK. If you never hear back from them after a couple of days of doing this then you are either blocked or they are a fake.
As always respect goes both ways. As a hobbyist if you show your humanity, then the good providers will show you a good time.
Freckle Freak
04-01-16, 16:27
To save space.
+1.
Respect specifications in ads, I. E. If ad says over 35, Please respect that. Each provider sets her own guidelines according to her comfort level. You may be an extremely mature professional at 27, but she still will consider you at least somewhat disrespectful for asking as it will appear you consider yourself are above her "rules".
Never ever ever send a dick pic. Despite whatever may occur when the two of you shall meet, it comes off presumptuous and puts her in a precarious position. Many providers also consider it rude.
If you want to be sure to make a provider cringe (especially a reputable one) be sure to tell her how you "are married and need to be discreet".
Guys, seriously, providers understand you may feel the need to "handle it yourself" before your appointment to prolong your experience, but please, please wash thoroughly as believe it or not, they can smell / taste it resulting in cringe number two.
I am new to the boards, just joined 3 days ago. I would like to thank all of the seniors for being excellent providers of information and advice. I have read the forums as much as possible in 3 days and have learned a wealth of information. I decided to take the plunge and saw a much respected provider talked about on here who made my first experience outside of the AMP and BP areas the greatest thing since sliced bread. I will post a review of her on the forums, but I wanted my first post to be a thanks to you guys and a bit of advice.
Respect.
Respect yourself. Respect the provider. If you can't respect yourself, how can you respect anyone else. If you don't respect her, why should she respect you? Why would you treat a provider any different than your mom / sister / wife / friend? They have traded time or sex for money, food, cars, or even for nothing. You just happen to call it motherhood / family / spousal duty / friendship. Do you call them bad names or treat them differently? You spent time at a job you hate for a few dollars, they spend time at a job they enjoy for good money. Who is smarter and happier?
Again, read the forums. If you think you don't need all that reading, you are more than likely the type of guy that can fall into a wheel barrow full of nipples and come out sucking your thumb. Drop your ego, read up, and respect the people that have gone, and come, before you.
Freckle Freak
04-08-16, 15:08
Thank you to the person that posted this. (Sara or Freckled Freak) this could not have been said any better and I hope that new gentleman (and some old) to the Hobby will read this and follow it. Thank you.To save space.
Hey guys, as I would still consider myself a Newbie in this hobby, I thought I'd ask the Pros' on how you approach screenings.
I'm currently chatting with 2 providers (Bri and Sasha), both talked about on this lovely forums and I've RTFF regarding both of them, and as I don't have any references they require a screen.
Here's the question / s I'm having, or I guess might have some concerns about. Both require drivers license photo (with sensitive stuff blacked out) & First and Last names, recent photo.
I guess my question is; Is this kind of screening typical? Anyone had bad things come out of this type of screenings? Overall general advice for the newbies. Never had to do screening before so I guess I might just be a bit worried.
Any info would be helpful.
Thanks!
J.
BiteOfTheApple
04-27-16, 09:31
Hey guys, as I would still consider myself a Newbie in this hobby, I thought I'd ask the Pros' on how you approach screenings.
I'm currently chatting with 2 providers (Bri and Sasha), both talked about on this lovely forums and I've RTFF regarding both of them, and as I don't have any references they require a screen.
Here's the question / s I'm having, or I guess might have some concerns about. Both require drivers license photo (with sensitive stuff blacked out) & First and Last names, recent photo.
I guess my question is; Is this kind of screening typical? Anyone had bad things come out of this type of screenings? Overall general advice for the newbies. Never had to do screening before so I guess I might just be a bit worried.
Any info would be helpful.
Thanks!
J.If you are comfy doing so, just provide what they ask. If not, move on until you find one that meets your needs. But, the more they reauire, the safer you will be. Just my opinion.
IndyGuy123
05-11-16, 15:56
Looking for some physical description of her, ideally some pics of her.
She is reviewed, but there are no body pictures or anything.
If anyone can point me to pictures or chime in that would be appreciated.
https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=169669
indylacy@yahoo.comLets start off with this. As a hobbyist, your handle is wrong on so many levels. Second, instead of posting in the newbie thread you may want to consider reading it. You do not make reports here asking for info. Third, I assume you have heard the term walk before you run. In Lacy's case, you may want to crawl before asking to run the Olympic 100 m. You may somehow get someone to give you info but don't plan on it. We don't call her Lacy the Legend for nothing!
Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard (The prick had to come out of hiding and even jump threads for this one).
GeezerGlide
05-14-16, 19:32
So, what does it take to be a "senior"?
25 posts and six months without pissing me off. You're starting to push that a little.
A2
DirkMcQuickley
05-19-16, 11:39
I'm a very cautious person even in the world of seeing escorts. I first seriously considered seeing escorts after I turned 40 due to all the negative experiences with the civies. My profession is research and development so that means that I had to do a lot of reading before feeling ready to jump in the water (so cautious I didn't jump in for at least 5 years after the research started). The website that really helped me get going is by a guy named Marc Perkel.
http://www.perkel.com/marc.htm
It's really informative and you should also read his story on what he went through when he got divorced.
I hope that posting the above link is not a violation of the board rules. Otherwise, Enjoy fellow mongers!
Need help with using search can't seem to find anything on that one.If you not finding any info then. 9/10 times they have never been reviewed on here and you need to do your own research. When you start asking question after question red flags do seem to pop up not only on a member standpoint but also on a provider standpoint. Just a FYI. There's advance search as well that can be a helpful tool.
Freckle Freak
05-23-16, 12:44
BbfsFanCip lets start off with this. As a hobbyist, your handle is wrong on so many levels. Second, instead of posting in the newbie thread you may want to consider reading it. You do not make reports here asking for info. Third, I assume you have heard the term walk before you run. In Lacy's case, you may want to crawl before asking to run the Olympic 100 m. You may somehow get someone to give you info but don't plan on it. We don't call her Lacy the Legend for nothing!
Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard (The prick had to come out of hiding and even jump threads for this one).And some wonder if this stuff is made up! I deleted the other posts, no offense to either DR or MW, because the original post really didn't belong in this thread. I left this here because it is relative to stupid things some, I repeat some, newbies do or say.
Freckle Freak
05-23-16, 12:45
What do you guys think should I try this?
http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/just-visiting-no-tease-geta-squeeze-nice-round-booty/15527747When asking questions about a BP ad please ask it in the BP Thread. Also searching and finding things is discussed earlier in this forum as well as how to google search phone numbers and pictures which would have given you names and info that is contained in the Ripoff Reports Thread.
When considering a provider's fee, do you still tip? I understand AMP's are different, just don't know about the individual providers.
When considering a provider's fee, do you still tip? I understand AMP's are different, just don't know about the individual providers.In my opinion tips are never expected but like any other field are always appreciated. If you win a certain expectations and your provider exceeds them, it would be fair.
When considering a provider's fee, do you still tip? I understand AMP's are different, just don't know about the individual providers.If you feel like you've had an amazing time, why not. If someone provides you a service and you feel like they went above and beyond, tip. It's always appreciated and I'm sure that leaves a good impression of you.
When considering a provider's fee, do you still tip? I understand AMP's are different, just don't know about the individual providers.It's not a dumb question. You do what you want to do. I don't often tip because the ladies I see I feel have set their rates to what they are happy with and I don't try to negotiate them down. If they've gone out of their way to accommodate me in a difficult spot, then a tip is certainly an appropriate gesture. And if you just love the experience you had and are feeling generous, then by all means give whatever you're happy and comfortable with.
Just be wary. Those that advertise about tipping often do so to suggest you *must* grease the wheels to get the full range of service. Depending on the starting points and what menu items you're looking to unlock, you just have to be prepared to tip up to that level. That's not truly a tip, they're just advertising it as such, and frankly it's mostly a scam to open up more of your pocketbook while your shorts are around your ankles and you're desperate.
If a lady gives you a great experience and doesn't discuss money or a tip past the entrance fee, they're probably going to really appreciate a little extra and remember you as a generous guy. So do what feels good to you.
Watch this and learn. This will save you a lot of anguish!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptqyKH6-whM
Freckle Freak
06-09-16, 00:07
Hello Gents. I've been lurking for about 4 months now after moving here from out of state. Glad to be here! I hope to make a few reports in the near-ish future after I decide if I want to be more active in AMPs or with providers. (no promises on reports, I'm a lazy bastard. It took me 4 months to say hello afterall: p).Glad you are here but this is a Newbie Forum to help newbies not a review forum so your post was deleted. Thank you.
Freckle Freak
07-26-16, 08:35
Some have found it hard to find info on escorts. I really don't know why but it's true. So try these steps.
Google Escort Review Sites. Three of the big ones come up on the first page of the google search. Jackson does not want us promoting other competitive review sites on the board so use common sense when looking them over. Some hints are: Grain combined with the rust Belt, some very Erotic sites for Review, Doggie, E with a CC and an IE, you can take it from here, I hope. See google link of searching.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=escort+review+sites
Now for the most recent Pam research it really is easy. Just google Pam Escort Indiana or use the below link. I came up with 4 accurate hits on two pages, one of them from a major review site from above listing phone number and e-mail.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=pam+escort+indiana
Hopefully this is helpful.
JustZDragon
08-21-16, 23:22
Hi everyone, just wanted to introduce myself. I have been checking BP, CL, TER and 411 and other sites for a while and finally met my first provider for the first time. I posted my first review (hope it will help others) and will continue to hopefully stay engaged here. I think I'm hooked, but want to play it safe and careful.
Hi everyone, just wanted to introduce myself. I have been checking BP, CL, TER and 411 and other sites for a while and finally met my first provider for the first time. I posted my first review (hope it will help others) and will continue to hopefully stay engaged here. I think I'm hooked, but want to play it safe and careful.Since I was the provider that broke his hobby cherry, and got him hooked. I know you guys will treat him well.
I too am new to the board and hobby, but am definitely hooked after visiting three AMPs in the last week and half. I haven't made the plunge of scheduling time with a BP or US Classifieds provider yet, but I may do so eventually. Good luck to all and damn glad to be here.
Hello all. I'm brand new and trying to get the hang of things. Just been reading and browsing for a bit. I'm really interested in pregnant women, and have been trying to nail down how to go about finding providers in that area. Learning a lot, but long ways to go!
Whathesaid
08-25-16, 02:32
Hello all. I'm brand new and trying to get the hang of things. Just been reading and browsing for a bit. I'm really interested in pregnant women, and have been trying to nail down how to go about finding providers in that area. Learning a lot, but long ways to go!I sent you a PM.
SikkiNixx99
08-29-16, 18:32
Curious if anyone who has been in the hobby for awhile.
Could you recommend a good lady that is good with a newbie.
Who is nervous.
Done allot of reading. Just not sure who??
Never knew there was so many ads on here.
Much appreciated for any advice.
Sikki.
Recently moved to the area and looking for a young spinner. If you have any recommendations, PM me. Thanks.
Recently moved to the area and looking for a young spinner. If you have any recommendations, PM me. Thanks.There's all kinds of information here, there's also several UTR's that a "new guy" probably won't hear about until he builds some cred. I can find you a young spinner that you can have fun with, but if I do all the work you may as well send me the money you're planning on spending so I can do that part for you too.
IndyGuy123
08-30-16, 14:06
Recently moved to the area and looking for a young spinner. If you have any recommendations, PM me. Thanks.I'll give your first lesson on how Indy operates. Learn the acronym RTFF. Basic rule is don't jump on the board and immediately start asking for info. Go out and see some ladies and report back. If not sure of who to see, just go to the review threads and research previous reports. Also go back in this thread and read the educational posts (mostly the early ones).
Indy Guy.
Freckle Freak
09-01-16, 07:27
Get all the details done and she is 30 minutes late. Come in and not the girl in the pic but all by back up plans have fallen through. She get partially undressed after taking donation and states that she doesn't do anything but dance over me so I can release myself. I say that's not what I signed up for. She told me take it or leave it. I left it and told her to leave. WTF? This is just horrible as most girls aren't like this but it makes me Leary! She said once o did it myself she would do it next time. Such a scam.
http://independent.com.indianapolis.hoxnif.com/bonus/post/16458252/hoxnif.com
http://indiana.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-new-new-young-open-minded-and-satisfying-your-petite-treat-blondes-do-it-better/10919701I brought this over from the Backpage Advertisers reviews board as an example of scams. Below is the important info.
That is why when you TOFTT with unknown BP providers that have zero reviews you NEVER give them the money upfront until the following has happened.
1. Discuss the menu.
2. They have disrobed.
3. Service has started.
4. Service has finished.
Walk in and show them the money. Leave it out in the open. If they reach for it then take it and explain it stays there until after the service is completed. If they say NO then leave with the money and if you want give them $20 for their time then that's up to you. I have walked out many times because the menu wasn't to my liking or they demanded the money upfront. I don't pay for a meal at a restaurant until I have ordered from the menu, been served my menu choice and partaken in the culinary experience. If your little head takes over and you get scammed then that's like eating out of the trash cans behind the fine dining establishments and paying full price for the meal!
Last but not least do your RESEARCH and read the Ripoff section and look for reviews.
LuvtheLife
09-01-16, 08:08
I never mess with the Backpage girls unless they have good reviews on TER from handles I recognize. It is just not a risk worth taking. If they are cheaper than the market, most of the time that indicates a pimp or a serious drug addiction. Guys that play on backpage without discipline get burned alot.
I never mess with the Backpage girls unless they have good reviews on TER from handles I recognize. It is just not a risk worth taking. If they are cheaper than the market, most of the time that indicates a pimp or a serious drug addiction. Guys that play on backpage without discipline get burned alot.It's a roll of the dice with unknown BP girls, I'm about 80% to the good on them, 2 of my current favorites posted on BP just one time, their both diamonds in the rough, and they both currently don't advertise at all, they are getting enough attention just by word of mouth.
I agree 10000%.
I never mess with the Backpage girls unless they have good reviews on TER from handles I recognize. It is just not a risk worth taking. If they are cheaper than the market, most of the time that indicates a pimp or a serious drug addiction. Guys that play on backpage without discipline get burned alot.
JustZDragon
09-04-16, 15:58
I also agree. Met my first provider several weeks ago and had a good time based on TER review, then found out about this board. This board is better than TER!
I agree 10000%.
I also agree. Met my first provider several weeks ago and had a good time based on TER review, then found out about this board. This board is better than TER!I too recently met with my first provider and I selected her based on reviews from this board. I am working on scheduling another meeting and I will only be using the USA classifieds section and reviews from this board in choosing providers. I am also more inclined to schedule with 2-3 providers rather than playing the field.
So this will be my 2nd post. I am still new to the hobby but I sure am enjoying the hell out of it.
Anyways, on my bucket list is to find some chocolate. I have never had any and would sure like to sample something decent.
By chance would anybody have a suggestion? PM me with a good brand of east chocolate please.
BiteOfTheApple
09-12-16, 12:37
So this will be my 2nd post. I am still new to the hobby but I sure am enjoying the hell out of it.
Anyways, on my bucket list is to find some chocolate. I have never had any and would sure like to sample something decent.
By chance would anybody have a suggestion? PM me with a good brand of east chocolate please.Try this young lady. http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/147/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/20340-Hot-Chocolate.html.
Freckle Freak
12-30-16, 08:46
There are two things that folks could do that would provide almost (almost) foolproof references for years to come, as opposed to something that conceivably is irelevant the next day. Requests for info should include these two items as well.
1. In addition to providing a link, which will inariably be gone a day, a week, a month later, provide a picture. Screenshots are easy. Downloads of pics are easy. Uploading pics to your review is easy. (Freckle freak too is easy, but I digress.) Never again will any of us have to wonder if we are talking about the same person. Also, never again can someone change their name and number and assume anonymity over and over again.
2. Provide the last four digits of the phone number. This can change of course, but it's a searchable term. If she's decent, she will probably keep the same phone number for a while. 3 character terms are not searchable on this site. "Kat", "kim", etc won't come up. A 4 digit phone number will. This will also help when "chelsea" or something like it has approximately 75 different spellings. (BTW, I didn't realize it was possible for so many BP advertisers to spell "brunette" incorrectly until recently.).
I dream big, sometimes too big. However, I have a dream that people will post partial phone numbers and pics of whom they are reviewing. In doing so, 80 percent of all reviews will be relevant for months or years to come. Currently, the reverse of that is true. Maybe there could even be a thread or topic in which pics would necessarily a part of the review. Again, I dream too big sometimes.
"Let's make reviewing great again."
When it comes to reviews, "you're going to get so tired of winning."
Doing this will "drain the swamp".So I moved it here. Thanks EC for your 2 cents. It's appreciated.
Freckle Freak
01-20-17, 11:23
Jjbee has words of wisdom for this blog. Sorry my heart sometimes leads instead of my Big or Little head.
Several places on the forum is some really good advice: Never prepay for a future session.
Another bit of advice: If at your initial meeting, the provider unloads all of her problems on you, walk away. Don't stop, don't look back, just keep walking.
We see providers for one thing; pleasure. Unless you get pleasure from listening to someone constantly complain that the entire world is conspiring against her, you're in the wrong place.
If you went to a restaurant for a steak dinner and the waiter starts telling you about all their vegan dishes, complains about anyone who eats meat and tells you they won't have any steak until sometime, maybe next week, would you pay for that someday steak dinner in advance?
If you just can't resist shelling out cash for every sob story, start a charity. At least then you can deduct your losses.
Eyes wide open time. If she's complaining about all those problems, she is an addict. All of her problems are caused by her addiction. Any money you give to her, whether you get service or not, is going to feed her addiction, which will cause more problems for her to complain about.
You can't help an addict. Let me repeat that: You can't help an addict.
Only the addict can help themselves. It's a choice few make until it becomes a life or death choice. All the help you try to give just keeps them from having to make that choice.
You don't have to be heartless, but put your money where it will do some good. There are many great providers who have their own problems, health issues, education expenses, or just trying to get ahead in life. Their time costs more, but it's worth it. Instead of complaints, you get smiles. Instead of excuses you get caresses. Instead of leaving wondering when you'll get what you just paid for, you'll leave wondering when your toes will uncurl.
Not directed at you, FF. Just general advice for the previous poster and everyone else who thinks they will be the one to save the damsel in distress.
Jjbee has words of wisdom for this blog. Sorry my heart sometimes leads instead of my Big or Little head.We all have those moments. The way I look at it now, when someone asks for something, it's a gift. Not a loan, not a prepayment, but an outright gift with nothing owed or expected in return. That makes it clearer. There's no thought that she will be grateful and you'll get something extra special in return. There's no worry about when you will be repaid. No patting your own back for helping someone in their time of need.
Once you accept you are giving a gift, it's a simple question of whether or not you want to give that person an expensive gift. It puts the decision process back in the big head.
Freckle Freak
04-06-17, 06:29
Came in took my money and told me to jerk off.
+1 (317) XXX -9449.
http://indianapolis.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/creme-de-la-creme-new-petite-exotic-beauty-ultimate-expierence-awaits-you-new-pics-100-real/21011462This is an example of what has been said many times. If you are seeing a new provider with no reviews or info it's called a TOFTT. Most of us TOFTT in our mongering experiences. I have said this before as have many others. Walk in with your big head in full gear mode. Sit down. Get her comfortable as well as yourself. Discuss the menu options. DO NOT give her the money upfront. You can show her the money, discuss the money based on services to be provided. If she demands the money upfront then simply say thank you for your time but I have changed my mind. If you want to be fair then give her a Jackson for her time and leave. The key point here is to lead with the big head and good decisions that will enable your small head to get what it wants.
The above post is not an example of a ripoff. She stayed with him while he jerked off. If she had taken the money and run, called in big brother / SO / BF to make you leave then that is a ripoff. Just because someone didn't get what they wanted doesn't mean it's a ripoff. It was poor decision making, poor communication and a choice to pay upfront. Not getting what you want can also be a YMMV situation. If she says GFE with DFK on the menu and you go in for the kiss and she backs away it could be she detected some foul breath that changed her mind. That is YMMV and contribution should be made even though you may not have liked the service. Don't forget to provide an accurate review on the service provided.
So no money upfront, discuss menu, walk if needed, review the service provided and move on to greener pastures if you had a poor experience.
I should know this by now but. Any help would be appreciated. I'm sure it would benefit quite a few of us, hence my title ref choice.
Hi guys,
This is my first post for the very first time to AMP. Don't know a lot of codes. So be patient with me.
Yesterday I went this place in south in the City. I work around there but live in Indy.
Two ladies there one served me. Her name is Sherry. She is in her 40's, face 5, body 7. I told her this is my 1st time. Back massage was good. At least I felt good. While she worked on my downside, she asked if I want extra, I asked how much. She said BJ for $, (WTF, I think she took advantage of me because I know nothing about AMP) HJ for $. 4. I said I only have $. 2. On the flip, she when HJ anyway and finished. On the way out, I gave her $. 2. This is all I got. Total damage $. 4 for hh, tip $. 2.
I will share more toftt. Personally, I don't like the popular spots. So I will hit all the new places, and report it later.
But I have one problem, how do you guys manage to get cash? If you are single, then there is no problem. The rest of you I don't think you just go to an ATM and withdrawal cash. Any good suggestions? Thank you!
Naughty169
04-21-17, 13:34
Hi guys,
This is my first post for the very first time to AMP. Don't know a lot of codes. So be patient with me.
Yesterday I went this place in south in the City. I work around there but live in Indy.
Two ladies there one served me. Her name is Sherry. She is in her 40's, face 5, body 7. I told her this is my 1st time. Back massage was good. At least I felt good. While she worked on my downside, she asked if I want extra, I asked how much. She said BJ for $, (WTF, I think she took advantage of me because I know nothing about AMP) HJ for $. 4. I said I only have $. 2. On the flip, she when HJ anyway and finished. On the way out, I gave her $. 2. This is all I got. Total damage $. 4 for hh, tip $. 2.
I will share more toftt. Personally, I don't like the popular spots. So I will hit all the new places, and report it later.
But I have one problem, how do you guys manage to get cash? If you are single, then there is no problem. The rest of you I don't think you just go to an ATM and withdrawal cash. Any good suggestions? Thank you!I think other menbers have talked about cash and saving up. Some use cash back from cc's or different back account. I just use an ATM. As for talking about $ on here. It looks like you paid 140 for hh and 120 for a HJ. If that is what you really paid then You got ripped off.
Try this.
.2 = 20.
.4 = 40.
$ = 100.
$. 2 = 120.
Looking forward to seeing more reviews from you.
I think other menbers have talked about cash and saving up. Some use cash back from cc's or different back account. I just use an ATM. As for talking about $ on here. It looks like you paid 140 for hh and 120 for a HJ. If that is what you really paid then You got ripped off.
Try this.
.2 = 20.
.4 = 40.
$ = 100.
$. 2 = 120.
Looking forward to seeing more reviews from you.Thank you for the advise.
I mean. 2 & . 4.
I will try to cash back and build it up.
Freckle Freak
05-06-17, 15:46
Please learn how to use the Search Forum tool. See the screen prints below. It bugs me when guys keep on asking for information through PM's that is readily available by using this tool. You have to enter at least 4 alpha or numerical items in the drop box or nothing will come up. Thank you.
New to the hobby but I am strictly into White bbws after browsing on BP I came across this provider of my taste: http://indianapolis.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/sexy-westside-bbw/24974283 but she has no reviews anywhere all I am asking is if anyone has spent time with her and confirm she legit? As I tried to google her number and nothing shows up as I don't want my first time experience be a nightmare yall help wiill mean allot to me.
Thank you hoping to hear soon.
New to the hobby but I am strictly into White bbws after browsing on BP I came across this provider of my taste: http://indianapolis.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/sexy-westside-bbw/24974283 but she has no reviews anywhere all I am asking is if anyone has spent time with her and confirm she legit? As I tried to google her number and nothing shows up as I don't want my first time experience be a nightmare yall help wiill mean allot to me.
Thank you hoping to hear soon.Provider changed her add and number latest add is: http://indianapolis.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/sexy-westside-bbw/24728373.
Greetings,
I just wanted to say thank you to this forum for the reviews. I've not ventured into what you call the hobby, but have been in the sugar bowl for almost 20 years. I met a wonderful young UTR provider from here off SA and she told me about the site. You might say she was my first provider but maybe my (who knows how many) xxxxth Sugar baby. I gave her glowing reviews (she deserved them) I guess we all have to accept some cross over in the SB / provider realm, it sometimes gets fuzzy. Maybe not a bad thing depending on how you look at it.
My goal is a exclusive SB and what you guys call BBFS I think? I always take a while to develop a POT SB and require us both to be tested and build some trust. This isn't a personal blog thread so Ill stop on this part.
What I find super about this forum is the reviews in the SD / SB section. SA and other "daddy" sites need this! I have learned by trial and error and have a pretty good feel for what's up. That being said this forum is an excellent resource and I wanted to acknowledge that!
I have a lot of good tips about the sugar bowl and can probably help any noobs there. I will refrain from busting into a long advice thread based on:
1. it may be here already and.
2. I'm new and just want to explore a bit.
But if you have any issues as a POT SD I am glad to help.
Thanks again!
Member #5631
12-29-17, 09:17
Please learn how to use the Search Forum tool. See the screen prints below. It bugs me when guys keep on asking for information through PM's that is readily available by using this tool. You have to enter at least 4 alpha or numerical items in the drop box or nothing will come up. Thank you.Thanks for the tutorial on searches. It's very helpful. However, what if the providers name is Amy? It's only 3 letters, I tried "Amy", Amy 317, Amy a, and nothing comes up. What am I missing or do I stay away from providers named Amy? .
Freckle Freak
12-30-17, 10:13
Thanks for the tutorial on searches. It's very helpful. However, what if the providers name is Amy? It's only 3 letters, I tried "Amy", Amy 317, Amy a, and nothing comes up. What am I missing or do I stay away from providers named Amy? .By adding an Asterisk after the three letters the search will come up with any word using those letters. Example if you look for Bre* then you will get any word that starts with Bre including Breasts, Breakfast etc.
Just thought I'd finally intro myself after a few months of lurking. Appreciate this forum and the many posters willing to share reviews, help and advice. I am pretty much a newbie. Dipped my toe in the Indy waters recently and also had some unexpected extras years ago in the VIP room down in FL. Hope to continue to dabble here and there, primarily in Indy as it is a regular work destination. Thanks once again!
Ron BurgIndy
01-09-18, 20:25
I love breasts and breakfast food.
By adding an Asterisk after the three letters the search will come up with any word using those letters. Example if you look for Bre* then you will get any word that starts with Bre including Breasts, Breakfast etc.
Candace38G
01-10-18, 12:23
New to the hobby but I am strictly into White bbws after browsing on BP I came across this provider of my taste: http://indianapolis.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/sexy-westside-bbw/24974283 but she has no reviews anywhere all I am asking is if anyone has spent time with her and confirm she legit? As I tried to google her number and nothing shows up as I don't want my first time experience be a nightmare yall help wiill mean allot to me.
Thank you hoping to hear soon.Hello. I am very well known in the hobby and can possibly help you. I have seceral curvy and bbws. Classy companions or look at the classified ads on here. You will find me and some of the other girls. Xoxo.
Member #5631
01-19-18, 05:05
By adding an Asterisk after the three letters the search will come up with any word using those letters. Example if you look for Bre* then you will get any word that starts with Bre including Breasts, Breakfast etc.Thanks for the tip!
I'm a big guy. Not obese but I'm certainly not in shape anymore. I have my first date set for tomorrow after work. I'm sure it depends on the girl but as a generality will I get less or lackluster service because of this? The gal I have set an appointment with has several fantastic reviews and I hope my experience lives up to the reviews. I just wanted to be prepared. We're online so I'm sure you will all be very honest.
Thanks.
I'm a big guy. Not obese but I'm certainly not in shape anymore. I have my first date set for tomorrow after work. I'm sure it depends on the girl but as a generality will I get less or lackluster service because of this? The gal I have set an appointment with has several fantastic reviews and I hope my experience lives up to the reviews. I just wanted to be prepared. We're online so I'm sure you will all be very honest.
Thanks.If the lady you chose is well reviewed then she has seen all types. She will be a pro and know how to make the best of your time together. Just be a gentleman and have a good time.
Dave.
If the lady you chose is well reviewed then she has seen all types. She will be a pro and know how to make the best of your time together. Just be a gentleman and have a good time.
Dave.Well, I can't check this site while at work and I had my first experience with the highly regarded Susie Q prior to being able to read your message. She lived up to all of the reviews here. She has gone brunette (pics are all blonde). BBBJ was very nice and she was very accommodating to my first experience. She might even be thinner than her pictures on BP. I would have rate her very well but I don't have anything to gauge it against, I did leave happy though! If I have an complaints at all: I told her prior to meeting that cigarette smell was a big turn off for me and she replied "nice to know". But I guess that's all it was. "nice to know". She didn't accommodate this aspect. I would see her again and you should too.
http://indianapolis.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/317-593-3025/25450748
Been watching posts for a while but first time posting myself. Spend a lot of time at AMPs and occasionally with the ever-changing asian motel girls (yes, it's asian fever). Anyway, noticed concern over ads with email contact info after an unfortunate event for a local provider. Also seen a lot of suspicious ads which seem to have been copied fron legit providers but have an email address in place of original ad's phone number. So I'm wondering what other tricks are being used and notice certain motel girl ads I haven't used yet have local numbers. The outfits I've used seem to use phone service for several cities and have no local contact. Does anyone know if this could be le bait?
Power Tool
08-26-18, 09:39
Good reading and an excellent source for all the newbies that have joined the board. Just wish they would read it from the beginning because it sure would stop a lot of stupid questions!
DonJohnson8
10-08-18, 12:59
Hello everyone,
I'm Don. I picked up the hobby a couple of months ago. I used to be a SC regular (yes a veteran of Club Rio). I started by going to the Adultlook site, booked an appointment with Natalie, and was then off to the races. I guess in hindsight, I'm lucky that I've only had fairly good experiences so far. The only issue I've run in to is with a provider in Terre Haute. Miss Lily. After seeing her, she has started contacting me with requests for extra money. I will not go there again. I have 3 favorites now so I'm sticking with them for the foreseeable future.
Anyway, I apologize for not introducing myself here first, but hey, noob-stuff right?
ClownJoker
10-25-18, 03:59
Greetings to all, I'm an Asian visiting indianapolis next week and would like to get some outcall girls to my hotel.
Was wondering if there are any recommendations and things to note? Do the escorts / girls entertain Asian guys?
DiscretePete
10-31-18, 15:36
I'm new to the blog and wanted to say hi! I've got some questions as to whether there are certain providers that one would recommend to a guy looking to veer away from the AMP scene and get more into incall providers? Any feedback is appreciated.
Thanks,
DP.
Power Tool
11-01-18, 07:16
I'm new to the blog and wanted to say hi! I've got some questions as to whether there are certain providers that one would recommend to a guy looking to veer away from the AMP scene and get more into incall providers? Any feedback is appreciated.
Thanks, DP.
Greetings to all, I'm an Asian visiting indianapolis next week and would like to get some outcall girls to my hotel.
Was wondering if there are any recommendations and things to note? Do the escorts / girls entertain Asian guys?
The info you both seek is within this blog. Simply put stick with the reliable providers that are well reviewed in the threads associated with them. Some of the reliable providers provide outcall, some don't, ask them! If you have $ to spend then they entertain Asians.
IndyMan713
11-06-18, 17:51
I'm new to this forum but not new to the hobby. I've read through the newbie blog and I appreciate those who have contributed. I will post my experiences.
For collectively posting some really great info on this blog. I'm new to the forums and just getting back into the hobby and appreciate being able to review the age-old good advice as well as learning about what has changed. For now, I just wanted to introduce myself and say thanks. I'll post more when I have something useful to contribute, but for now, back to reading.
Cheers!
Not new to the hobby, but this will be my first post. I felt the need to comment on the Renee fiasco. Since I see her often and may have been one of last to see her, I was not surprised to see my name. I was surprised to see my whole Gawd given name though since I never told her my last name, just my nickname. I can understand if someone felt betrayed or whatever, but there was no need to out so many clients. I personally never knew she had a man or some guy thought he was. I am old and single so I am kinda pissed but really dgaf. I hope the rest of you on there come through un harmed. Learned lesson here. Stay safe gentleman.
IndyGolfer60
01-03-19, 06:37
Not new to the hobby, but this will be my first post. I felt the need to comment on the Renee fiasco. Since I see her often and may have been one of last to see her, I was not surprised to see my name. I was surprised to see my whole Gawd given name though since I never told her my last name, just my nickname. I can understand if someone felt betrayed or whatever, but there was no need to out so many clients. I personally never knew she had a man or some guy thought he was. I am old and single so I am kinda pissed but really dgaf. I hope the rest of you on there come through un harmed. Learned lesson here. Stay safe gentleman.But did you use a real phone registerd in your name and not a burner phone?
But did you use a real phone registerd in your name and not a burner phone?No, that is something that never even occured to me. Numerous poviders have my number but if I see somone new I will go that route. My number wasn't shown. Just my name.
No, that is something that never even occured to me. Numerous poviders have my number but if I see somone new I will go that route. My number wasn't shown. Just my name.Definately get a phone that you can pay as you go on. You can get one about anywhere. Worth the investment.
Recently located to the Indy area from a bit West of Indy making my first post on here and with this username but the only first anything in sometime. 😉.
Have been in and out of hobby since the 90's fairy active the last 6 years but in other areas of the Midwest and more regional boards to that area. I do have a bit of knowledge with some of the ladies in this area though as many have traveled in the past and also were active on other boards.
I look forward to being part in the forums and learning the area. I have also been following and researching the many sites similar to the former BP looking for the diamond in the rough and some "budget" ladies to possible visit. I have a couple in mind but would gladly except any suggestion or input.
IndyGolfer60
01-14-19, 09:02
Recently located to the Indy area from a bit West of Indy making my first post on here and with this username but the only first anything in sometime. 😉.
Have been in and out of hobby since the 90's fairy active the last 6 years but in other areas of the Midwest and more regional boards to that area. I do have a bit of knowledge with some of the ladies in this area though as many have traveled in the past and also were active on other boards.
I look forward to being part in the forums and learning the area. I have also been following and researching the many sites similar to the former BP looking for the diamond in the rough and some "budget" ladies to possible visit. I have a couple in mind but would gladly except any suggestion or input.Welcome to the board.
KingOfSwing79
02-10-19, 09:34
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There is a thread for this called safe sex information and advice.
A2
Samaelincog
02-17-19, 12:11
How do I create a new thread?
By becoming a Senior Member
A2
RonBurgIndy
02-26-19, 17:46
Hey A2, who does a guy have to blow around here to get an upgrade? RBI.
Nobody, you just have to not piss me off until March 18th
FYI, offering to blow me again might do that, you might want to say
"Hey A2 who do I have to send MMGeG to give a blowjob to for an upgrade?
Just saying
A2
How do I create a new thread?
By becoming a Senior Member
A2
RonBurgIndy
02-27-19, 12:12
I've been meaning to see her again myself. I'll ask for a gift card for A2!
Hey A2, who does a guy have to blow around here to get an upgrade? RBI.
Nobody, you just have to not piss me off until March 18th
FYI, offering to blow me again might do that, you might want to say
"Hey A2 who do I have to send MMGeG to give a blowjob to for an upgrade?
Just saying
A2
Hey A2, who does a guy have to blow around here to get an upgrade? RBI.
Nobody, you just have to not piss me off until March 18th
FYI, offering to blow me again might do that, you might want to say
"Hey A2 who do I have to send MMGeG to give a blowjob to for an upgrade?
Just saying
A2Just send me a name and an airplane ticket I'm down LOL.
GrayRenard2
03-20-19, 17:44
So I've been causally reading about this hobby for the last few years and finally comfortable enough with the idea to try it out. I've already determined that one of the DL. Com woman will hopefully be one of my first. This site has been a wealth of information and found many questions answered but not all. I'm wondering about is screening; I have no prior references which only leaves my real name as collateral I guess. ?? I've read that this screening makes it safer for both, but this seems almost as bad as having them come to my house?! I might as well just introduce them to the family before. LOL.
So how are they screening exactly and what do they do with this personal info?
I greatly appreciate any insight you kind gentlemen mind have to offer. .
P.S. Hopefully I didn't ask too many questions on my first post. I'll be one that shares in the near future. .
McjIndy2017
04-04-19, 09:31
Been lurking for a bit and decided to take the plunge and actually sign up. Noticed that a few old timers had the same experiences back in the day with Tiffany, Miss Tracy, etc.
Looking for new opportunities in the downtown Indy area.
Cheers.
Ousidetheloop
05-04-19, 16:40
I've been around a while but haven't had much experience. My only experiences have been at AMPs. Never ventured outside of that partially due to no hobby phone and a limited budget. Have only had a few let downs. I would like to branch out occasionally but don't know how to go about getting a hobby phone. Can anyone offer any tips or advice on this? Feel free to pm.
IndyGolfer60
05-05-19, 06:26
I've been around a while but haven't had much experience. My only experiences have been at AMPs. Never ventured outside of that partially due to no hobby phone and a limited budget. Have only had a few let downs. I would like to branch out occasionally but don't know how to go about getting a hobby phone. Can anyone offer any tips or advice on this? Feel free to pm.Go to Walmart and buy a prepaid phone and pay cash and buy the reload card monthly, I let mine expire about a year ago and have only been doing AMP's as well but might be ready to venture back out as well.
GrayRenard2
05-06-19, 09:54
I've been around a while but haven't had much experience. My only experiences have been at AMPs. Never ventured outside of that partially due to no hobby phone and a limited budget. Have only had a few let downs. I would like to branch out occasionally but don't know how to go about getting a hobby phone. Can anyone offer any tips or advice on this? Feel free to pm.I got a Tracphone from meijer. $30 iphone that's made by samsung. Not that to dissimilar from an i7 platform, but still a cheaper cousin. I just had to reload it; which requires going online to enter the code from the card you purchase at the store with cash. You can purchase online if you want to use a cc.
Zakk Wylde
05-06-19, 13:38
I got a Tracphone from meijer. $30 iphone that's made by samsung. Not that to dissimilar from an i7 platform, but still a cheaper cousin. I just had to reload it; which requires going online to enter the code from the card you purchase at the store with cash. You can purchase online if you want to use a cc.Is free and you can use the browser on your smartphone in private mode to login.
Is free and you can use the browser on your smartphone in private mode to login.Yes agreed, but some providers will not communicate with Google Voice numbers. Just something to think about.
Power Tool
06-18-19, 07:12
Good Info.
No software needed just Google and sites like this.
- Search the PH number including in FB you would be surprised how many use the same number that is in thier personal FB account. I use Google image search some prefer Tineye (https://tineye.com/). GIS is built into Chrome and is an adon for other browsers like Firefox (I prefer Firefox). Just right click and select search with Google and you can see if the images are being used elsewhere.
- Search on here and other sites that offer information exchange. I find USASG to be the most informative in the Indy area.
- If they ever want to verify via video chat or some other pay service its a scam. If the post lists every known CC for payments it is most likely a scam. On sites like STG just look at the location listed is it says "Downtown" or "Your place" These are usually mass ads appearing in every city in the country and that's right a scam.
- A free site I have found useful is Escort Index (https://escortindex.com/) It does an image search and gives you other numbers that have the same pics, This allows you to create a link both good and bad with other providers.
- Pay attention to the images especially the mirrors they always forget to crop out the background. You will see everything from the "manager" taking the picture, A needle on the sink I even saw one with a guy holding his gun in the corner of the room.
-Actually read the ad. You can tell from the content if it was written by the provider or someone else. It can also tell you a lot about the person by what words they use and how they refer to things. They can tend to forget the little things like using the word "She" would tell me someone else (possible pimp) wrote the ad.
- Think with the big head! Your research should always start with your own common seance and then search on here or similar trusted sites.
Indyguy1234
06-18-19, 15:27
Relatively new to the hobby. What can be expected when ads say car play? Is it always just a BJ? Does she ever undress to any extent? Is it possible to do more and if so, how safe can it be? To literally possibly be caught with pants down. When picking up SWs, can it be expected to be more that car play? Like ever going back to a place that she knows? Seems risky.
I have been messaging with a couple of girls on Listcrawler and before committing to car play I would like to know what my expectations can be.
FYI. I have a 2 door sports car, not some big ass SUV.
SeekingDan
06-19-19, 18:11
Relatively new to the hobby. What can be expected when ads say car play? Is it always just a BJ? Does she ever undress to any extent? Is it possible to do more and if so, how safe can it be? To literally possibly be caught with pants down. When picking up SWs, can it be expected to be more that car play? Like ever going back to a place that she knows? Seems risky.
I have been messaging with a couple of girls on Listcrawler and before committing to car play I would like to know what my expectations can be.
FYI. I have a 2 door sports car, not some big ass SUV.In my experience it varies girl to girl. I've had one get down in the back, but mostly I just liked getting head. Some will undress some some won't, most all I've seen have let my hands roam though. I personally like to drive and find a safe spot nearby before I pick her up. If she insists on a spot I apologize and say I don't feel comfortable and we go out separate ways.
I know nothing about SW's personally. Be safe.
Hey guys,
I'm new to the forum but not to the hobby. I've been in the hobby for 5-6 years. I finally decided to signup feeling I'm missing out on some stuff. I've seen some really good providers and some so so ones. I've been to AMPs as well but not my first preference. I've made most of my decisions on who to see from what I've read from you guys on here and I thank you for that. Some really good info. I hope I can bring something to the forum to contribute now since I've joined.
NaptownNights
04-13-20, 00:13
New to the hobby and this board. Getting my feet wet in the past couple weeks. Just had a first experience with a sweet girl who's been well-reviewed for 2020. I really appreciate the forum posts and how everybody works as a team to share information and have fun safely. They pushed me over the edge as far as dipping my toe in the water with said girl.
I'm not trying to lose what I have in my life, but I need some fun and excitement again. To feel like I'm in my early 20's again. And this is working, so far it's been exhilarating.
Don't have any friends or co-workers that have any experience in this world so it's been me, myself, and I internet-searching, lurking, scrolling ads, etc. Trying to red-pill myself on how to operate successfully while avoiding scams and the law. I'm overly cautious at this point because I'm a noob and one mistake can be catastrophic.
I successfully avoided a couple scams and developed an eye for red-flags. LOL there was an EB ad on the late night recently for the worst part of Indy incall, no verified reviews, and wanted a deposit. I said No, homie, I don't play that game and I sure as hell don't hit that street after dark without a US Military escort. I hardly doubt a classy-looking Caucasian girl is holed up on the worst street in Indy.
You got to be a smart fish and take the bait off the lure without getting hooked, I've noticed. Nothing new for me.
I don't think this other one is a scam, but this verified Eros girl wanted some pretty heavy personal details. Social media, linkedin page, employer details, full name. I've seen my fair share of mobster movies and know a bit about organized crime. The blackmail potential set off alarm bells in my head and chose to stay disciplined and not pursue. Pricey too, but quality ain't cheap, and I'm not here to rummage through the garbage bin either.
I understand that legit girls need probably even more self-protection measures than Johns, but all that on top of refusing to send me a verification selfie to prove she was real and not someone cat-fishing (or worse) made me lose interest.
I look forward to learning more and hope you guys can help me out. Please point to any great reading material you think would help.
Thanks,
NN.
Theo Guderian
04-17-20, 02:39
New to the hobby and this board. Getting my feet wet in the past couple weeks.
NN.Welcome aboard. This thing of ours can indeed be rewarding and add spice to the porridge when it gets bland. Looks like you've got the right head in gear, keep it that way. Do all the right things, burners, leaving no trace, ETC, ETC. Keep the big head on straight and don't let the little head lead you by the nose.
GLHF.
Welcome aboard. This thing of ours can indeed be rewarding and add spice to the porridge when it gets bland. Looks like you've got the right head in gear, keep it that way. Do all the right things, burners, leaving no trace, ETC, ETC. Keep the big head on straight and don't let the little head lead you by the nose.
GLHF.Hey,
New to this board and the Indy area. Interested in AMP for FS in the Indy area. Any recommendations would be appreciated.
BiteOfTheApple
04-18-20, 08:41
Hey,
New to this board and the Indy area. Interested in AMP for FS in the Indy area. Any recommendations would be appreciated.I would suggest the massage parlor thread for a overview.
NaptownNights
04-29-20, 21:38
I've sure gotten a lot of practice reaching out to ads via text message over the past few weeks. And I figured I'd relay a few lessons and compare notes with you guys. One of the best things I realized is to promptly get the SP to send a custom selfie (please hold up three fingers) so that you don't waste time and effort on scammers who simply send pics from the ad, posing as if they're a legit female.
I usually ask them to send a selfie making "okay" gesture because it's specific gesture that nobody makes when taking general photos. That way you know it's a real girl on the other end that you're interacting with, plus you can get a feel for whether or not they've put on weight in the face compared to the photos on the listing.
If and when the girl sends this verification selfie, I might send $10 on cashapp as a thank you. They tend to like or appreciate it and its a cheap way to figure out who's scamming and who's legit. In sales, they preach "always be closing. " Here you need to always be screening and verifying before you get knee-deep in a scam.
I also learned to only spend time reaching out to ads with phone numbers (no email scam BS) that have an Indiana area code, just about anything else is a scam. Skipthegames has a ton of these scam ads. And if the girl in the ad is a 10/10, don't waste your time because it's too good to be true. STG has quite a few ads with lesser-known porn stars which can appear real and authentic. I spotted them instantly but some casual noob might not.
Also make sure that all the photos on the ad or profile are the SAME GIRL. Look for tattoos or matching facial features. Many scams have clearly different women listed in the photo section.
We need to collectively get the SP's used to sending selfie verification pics. We should blacklist all others who fail to jump this hurdle. That's my new rule.
SeekingDan
04-30-20, 08:37
I've sure gotten a lot of practice reaching out to ads via text message over the past few weeks. And I figured I'd relay a few lessons and compare notes with you guys. One of the best things I realized is to promptly get the SP to send a custom selfie (please hold up three fingers) so that you don't waste time and effort on scammers who simply send pics from the ad, posing as if they're a legit female.
I usually ask them to send a selfie making "okay" gesture because it's specific gesture that nobody makes when taking general photos. That way you know it's a real girl on the other end that you're interacting with, plus you can get a feel for whether or not they've put on weight in the face compared to the photos on the listing.
If and when the girl sends this verification selfie, I might send $10 on cashapp as a thank you. They tend to like or appreciate it and its a cheap way to figure out who's scamming and who's legit. In sales, they preach "always be closing. " Here you need to always be screening and verifying before you get knee-deep in a scam.
I also learned to only spend time reaching out to ads with phone numbers (no email scam BS) that have an Indiana area code, just about anything else is a scam. Skipthegames has a ton of these scam ads. And if the girl in the ad is a 10/10, don't waste your time because it's too good to be true. STG has quite a few ads with lesser-known porn stars which can appear real and authentic. I spotted them instantly but some casual noob might not.
Also make sure that all the photos on the ad or profile are the SAME GIRL. Look for tattoos or matching facial features. Many scams have clearly different women listed in the photo section.
We need to collectively get the SP's used to sending selfie verification pics. We should blacklist all others who fail to jump this hurdle. That's my new rule.Just so you know it's not uncommon to have girls travel. I've found that the attractive ones usually aren't from here. I agree with the majority of things said but I always look up the area code of the phone number listed to make sure it makes sense, and if it does I screen my way. I'm just as if not more paranoid than you so I actually switch up my hand signals between three that are uncommon for people to take pictures with as well. And if I'm spooked at all I request they do it with at least a tit out. I also always google the number and check to see if there's anything weird that comes up with it as well. I do agree though we need to all be requesting these though because I've had a few girls that I'm like 95% sure to be real essentially tell me to fuck off LOL.
NaptownNights
04-30-20, 11:13
Thanks for the feedback, Hadan1334.
Tell me more about your experiences having out of town girls come through. I'm curious to know ballpark price for that type of thing and what you look for. Spell it out for me, please. Hey, I'm not opposed to paying top dollar for something that's clean and worth it. Although I can't do that every week with my income.
Thanks, brother.
SeekingDan
05-01-20, 02:01
Thanks for the feedback, Hadan1334.
Tell me more about your experiences having out of town girls come through. I'm curious to know ballpark price for that type of thing and what you look for. Spell it out for me, please. Hey, I'm not opposed to paying top dollar for something that's clean and worth it. Although I can't do that every week with my income.
Thanks, brother.I am a pretty low volume person. I've not seen many people total and been doing this for. Over a year now? So I'm sure there are better people than me to ask.
That said I've actually enjoyed using Eros quite a bit. I've gotten with a girl from NY and another from Florida I believe off there. There's also some on listcrawler who've been passing through and posted there with out of state numbers.
My way of deciding whether to message or not is to look at their pictures. Do they seem real / fake? Then I google the number and area code. Does it make sense? A lot of people who travel will have a website or Snapchat. Then lastly I'll just ask for a very specific and revealing verification picture right off the bat. If they say no I don't waste my time. If they do it I'll see about going for a meet. If it works it works if it doesn't it doesn't but for girls I get a pic from and end up being real I tip well.
All I'm all it's almost no different than me screening someone with a 317 code. Only difference is the area code step for me.
Recently run across profiles offering meetup service at such and such cost. Has anyone actually met any of the ladies offering meetups on Twitter or is it a scam?
Not necessarily new to the hobby but new to this board. Been lurking for awhile and finally decided to join up. Hope to learn from you guys!
Not necessarily new to the hobby but new to this board. Been lurking for awhile and finally decided to join up. Hope to learn from you guys!Can't learn from any better.
Not necessarily new to the hobby but new to this board. Been lurking for awhile and finally decided to join up. Hope to learn from you guys!And enjoy!!
Thanks for the add. New to the group but have been active with AMPs and escorts for a year maybe. Trying to find a reliable, healthy, thin / fit, white / Asian / Latina, speaks English, pretty, and under 40, female service provider that will do out calls to downtown Indianapolis (nice clean safe apartment) and not ask for a fortune. No drug addicts. No BBW. No AA. Not asking for deposit or upfront. Does not necessarily have to offer FS. I'm a white, professional career, employed, dude. So far the few I've tried have been less than desirable let's say. Any suggestions? Profile links? Appreciate the help guys. Thanks.
Thanks for the add. New to the group but have been active with AMPs and escorts for a year maybe. Trying to find a reliable, healthy, thin / fit, white / Asian / Latina, speaks English, pretty, and under 40, female service provider that will do out calls to downtown Indianapolis (nice clean safe apartment) and not ask for a fortune. No drug addicts. No BBW. No AA. Not asking for deposit or upfront. Does not necessarily have to offer FS. I'm a white, professional career, employed, dude. So far the few I've tried have been less than desirable let's say. Any suggestions? Profile links? Appreciate the help guys. Thanks.Bump. Any thoughts gents?
Bigred2006
03-09-21, 10:54
Bump. Any thoughts gents?I like that you bumped the top post. Generally seniors share info with those who contribute themselves. I'd consider posting some actual reviews.
NocturnalSex
03-22-21, 21:07
Hello, new to the hobby. Have had only a few experiences with a provider. They were random and bad quality. I'm taking it slow and easy in pulling the trigger on an experience. I need to know all the facts 1st in order to make best judgement call. I've been relieved in what I've found on usasg. So thanks. I'll get better at this in the future.
AuroraDawn
06-23-21, 18:49
New to the forum and posting not sure how this works or if I'm even posting in right spot any help.
Well like my post said. Lone wolf will get you so far. My experiences have been with a few great ones and some not so great. Channel is awesome when you catch her sober. Cali is awesome but have not seen her in awhile and Jaz (east side) was great too but have not seen her in a long time. Those are my ATFs. Would love to try Carolyn the teacher.
I am a pretty low volume person. I've not seen many people total and been doing this for. Over a year now? So I'm sure there are better people than me to ask.
That said I've actually enjoyed using Eros quite a bit. I've gotten with a girl from NY and another from Florida I believe off there. There's also some on listcrawler who've been passing through and posted there with out of state numbers.
My way of deciding whether to message or not is to look at their pictures. Do they seem real / fake? Then I google the number and area code. Does it make sense? A lot of people who travel will have a website or Snapchat. Then lastly I'll just ask for a very specific and revealing verification picture right off the bat. If they say no I don't waste my time. If they do it I'll see about going for a meet. If it works it works if it doesn't it doesn't but for girls I get a pic from and end up being real I tip well.
All I'm all it's almost no different than me screening someone with a 317 code. Only difference is the area code step for me.How was your experience in Eros at NY? The girls there look like top model quality, and not crazy expensive.
SeekingDan
10-30-21, 13:59
How was your experience in Eros at NY? The girls there look like top model quality, and not crazy expensive.I meant she was from NY touring in Indy. She was amazing. Hottest girl I've been with by far and she was really into everything. Bbj, multiple positions, msog, cim. Was just a lot of fun. Sorry for making it sound like I was in NY my bad.
MyMassage20
11-27-21, 22:38
Dipping my toes in posting. I have been to many AMPs and visited 317, models, multiple DI ladies, and spent a lot of time in Louisville doing the same. This post is about 317 and models. If you want a massage by some very attractive women, 317 is the place. I will say I have seen many of them and each has their own technique. Some very legit massages, some teasing massages, and occasionally a playful massage. Do not expect any extras here. But you will leave feeling amazing and you will be treated very well by some very sexy women. With that said, I can say the same about models massage. Very relaxing experience but again, no extras. Just beautiful women that make you feel special for a short period of time.
Hi,
First time visiting and I came across (no pun intended LOL) some profiles. I wanted to know if they are safe and legit before I contact them.
Chanel - https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/chanel-escort-indianapolis-91482.
Brie - https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/bre-escort-indianapolis-100071.
Li https://indianapolis.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/black_caribbean/shouldnt-you-be-in-my-bed/186589751314.
MILF - https://callescort.org/317-349-0590sa -.
If anyone can help that would be great.
Thanks.
Hi,
I'm new to Indy and checking out some profiles and would like to know if they are legit? Trying to stay away from scammers and the likes.
Chanel - https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/chanel-escort-indianapolis-91482.
Bre - https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/bre-escort-indianapolis-100071.
Lisa - https://indianapolis.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/black_caribbean/shouldnt-you-be-in-my-bed/186589751314.
Little Booty - https://callescort.org/317-893-7267.
MILF - https://callescort.org/317-349-0590.
Many thanks.
Gimmyallurloven
05-26-22, 07:30
Chanel and Bre are real.
Chanel has a nice body, but face is a little rough. She's nice enough. Recently started posting again after a long break I think.
Bre is a bit UTR, but still sees people. She's pretty great. Really attractive and fun to talk with.
MILF and Little Booty look like fakes to me.
Lisa caught my eye recently. Try her out and report back!
Hi,
I'm new to Indy and checking out some profiles and would like to know if they are legit? Trying to stay away from scammers and the likes.
Chanel - https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/chanel-escort-indianapolis-91482.
Bre - https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/bre-escort-indianapolis-100071.
Lisa - https://indianapolis.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/black_caribbean/shouldnt-you-be-in-my-bed/186589751314.
Little Booty - https://callescort.org/317-893-7267.
MILF - https://callescort.org/317-349-0590.
Many thanks.
Bigred2006
05-26-22, 07:48
Chanel and Bre are real.
Chanel has a nice body, but face is a little rough. She's nice enough. Recently started posting again after a long break I think.
Bre is a bit UTR, but still sees people. She's pretty great. Really attractive and fun to talk with.
MILF and Little Booty look like fakes to me.
Lisa caught my eye recently. Try her out and report back!I agree with all this. Although I haven't seen Chanel and she stood me up at a hotel so she's on my do not see list. I enjoyed my time with Bre but haven't had a chance to reschedule. Her schedule is tough. For Bre, you'll likely need a p411 to get her to respond. I texted her a ton and finally got responses after reaching out on p411.
I agree with all this. Although I haven't seen Chanel and she stood me up at a hotel so she's on my do not see list. I enjoyed my time with Bre but haven't had a chance to reschedule. Her schedule is tough. For Bre, you'll likely need a p411 to get her to respond. I texted her a ton and finally got responses after reaching out on p411.Wouldn't sweat not seen Chanel. Face is definitely weathered but the body is ok. This was probably 9 years ago when I saw her. Not a bad fuck but had rock hard tits. Pleasant personality though. Definitely more of a GILF than a MILF now. Now Bre and the black leather couch gave me some memorable experiences.
Indy Bobby
07-11-22, 23:30
Chanel and Bre are real.
Chanel has a nice body, but face is a little rough. She's nice enough. Recently started posting again after a long break I think.
Bre is a bit UTR, but still sees people. She's pretty great. Really attractive and fun to talk with.
MILF and Little Booty look like fakes to me.
Lisa caught my eye recently. Try her out and report back!I'm still learning what is for forums and what is for private chat but for now you can message me about Lisa. I will post later if I can as well.
Indy Bobby
07-13-22, 13:52
What is the difference between senior and regular. It seems like senior is preferred so what is the path to get there?
Bigred2006
07-13-22, 20:15
What is the difference between senior and regular. It seems like senior is preferred so what is the path to get there?Provide quality info, especially reviews.
IndyAssMan
07-14-22, 07:36
What is the difference between senior and regular. It seems like senior is preferred so what is the path to get there?I believe 26 posts and time lapse of 6 months on site. Then status is automatically changed to senior.
SlickDeals
10-09-22, 09:32
New to the site, and a noob as well. I would like to try DI and did ask one in their website but she was asking for verifications either 3 from provider references or work email? Are this legit thanks.
Not a newbie but think question here is relevant to the thread.
Are there recommended methods to optimize privacy when activating a new Tracfone? Upgraded antiquated Tracfone.
Duck-Duck-Go search generated few results other than the standard Tracfone establish account etc.
Appreciate any insights and tips.
BCD.
Member #6411
10-30-22, 14:41
New to the site, and a noob as well. I would like to try DI and did ask one in their website but she was asking for verifications either 3 from provider references or work email? Are this legit thanks.From my experience, I believe they're legit.
JohnAbc123
10-30-22, 15:45
Not a newbie but think question here is relevant to the thread.
Are there recommended methods to optimize privacy when activating a new Tracfone? Upgraded antiquated Tracfone.
Duck-Duck-Go search generated few results other than the standard Tracfone establish account etc.
Appreciate any insights and tips.
BCD.Not sure I completely understand your question, but buy phone and data, text, minutes cards using cash. Provide any zip code you like. Use phone, but never update apps because that requires your Google account. Year long service card is easiest.
Not sure I completely understand your question, but buy phone and data, text, minutes cards using cash. Provide any zip code you like. Use phone, but never update apps because that requires your Google account. Year long service card is easiest.It's been a while since I had to activate one but I've done Virgin / Boost and Straight Talk which is actually Tracfone. You may need to give a valid email but you can use any name you want. What I've done is, before activating, I start the phone on wifi and set it up with a new Google account which gives you a new Gmail box. The only connection to you is you'll have to give Google an active phone number to confirm. This can be changed to your burner number after you activate it. Just to ease confusion, I use the same fake name on everything and that becomes my monger alter-ego. LOL.
After Google is set up, I now have an email to use for the phone account. Once it's set up, you can enter your minute cards online or on the carrier app. I don't think that Straight Talk even required a name but having one gives the phone more legitimacy. I've seen some of the Asians screen out numbers from texting apps and numbers that don't have names.
The texting apps are the main benefit of having a Google account. You turn the phone into a double or triple burner by having the extra phone numbers. I like to keep my burner phone for a while so I use the app numbers first if I think it's sketchy. You can always ditch the app number and sign up for a new one.
Firstly, thank you all for your reviews. Breath of fresh air to read.
I moved from South Florida recently and am looking to acquaint more with this city.
My preferences goes towards the bbw, curvy. Age isn't a factor, 20 to 50's. I have been looking over on crawler and noticed her. No name, but looks real. Any experiences with her? Or recommendations?
https://candy.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/indiana/indianapolis/156362786
Thanks again all.
Firstly, thank you all for your reviews. Breath of fresh air to read.
I moved from South Florida recently and am looking to acquaint more with this city.
My preferences goes towards the bbw, curvy. Age isn't a factor, 20 to 50's. I have been looking over on crawler and noticed her. No name, but looks real. Any experiences with her? Or recommendations?
https://candy.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/indiana/indianapolis/156362786
Thanks again all.Check the escort reviews for more but Candace may be what you are looking for. She hosts out of her house in a decent neighborhood close to the airport, or at least she used to.
https://www.candace38g.com/
Check the escort reviews for more but Candace may be what you are looking for. She hosts out of her house in a decent neighborhood close to the airport, or at least she used to.
https://www.candace38g.com/Right up my alley. Thanks again.
TakeMeAway
11-14-23, 10:19
So let me start by saying I used to go club to club back in the day when VIP dances were more fun. I'm just getting into this new world and am at a loss where to start. I've tried a couple of the escorts that have been suggested and usually get ghosted. Maybe I don't talk right. Maybe I just don't know what I'm doing. I also would like to try some of the AMP which is super easy to find them when you're an Uber driver. Any tips / tricks / lingo for someone just getting into this wonderful life? Mainly how do I stop getting ghosted LOL?
PopinHerMouth
11-14-23, 16:29
So let me start by saying I used to go club to club back in the day when VIP dances were more fun. I'm just getting into this new world and am at a loss where to start. I've tried a couple of the escorts that have been suggested and usually get ghosted. Maybe I don't talk right. Maybe I just don't know what I'm doing. I also would like to try some of the AMP which is super easy to find them when you're an Uber driver. Any tips / tricks / lingo for someone just getting into this wonderful life? Mainly how do I stop getting ghosted LOL?Check the forum on here for DI, which stands for Discreet Info. The girls are great, the booking process is simple and the girls are ready at your scheduled appointment time so yo don't have to play games with these independent providers.
Newbie to this site, but have been off and on taking part in this venture for a few years. One item that has always stifled me is ways of funding this "hobby". I am married (bad me, I know). With this day and age of direct deposit, banking apps, credit card apps, and all the other electronic ways of tracking money, I am out of ideas on how to sneak some cash or other funding mechanism every so often without bringing up suspicion. We have joint bank accounts, and if I said I wanted a separate one, that would also lead to some suspicion. Does anyone on here have some suggestions?
Newbie to this site, but have been off and on taking part in this venture for a few years. One item that has always stifled me is ways of funding this "hobby". I am married (bad me, I know). With this day and age of direct deposit, banking apps, credit card apps, and all the other electronic ways of tracking money, I am out of ideas on how to sneak some cash or other funding mechanism every so often without bringing up suspicion. We have joint bank accounts, and if I said I wanted a separate one, that would also lead to some suspicion. Does anyone on here have some suggestions?My first thought was find a cash paying part-time job like. Fred Garvin: Male Prostitute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jphfMd4_LCs
Sorry JonWW96 I know this is a serious question on your part. I'm not in your situation so I don't have any suggestions. I Just couldn't help but think of Dan Aykroyd as Fred Garvin.
My first thought was find a cash paying part-time job like. Fred Garvin: Male Prostitute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jphfMd4_LCs
Sorry JonWW96 I know this is a serious question on your part. I'm not in your situation so I don't have any suggestions. I Just couldn't help but think of Dan Aykroyd as Fred Garvin.We have separate accounts and have our own savings accounts for guys / girls trips etc. I suggest maybe you withdrawal $40-50 occasionally and save it til you have enough to go play.
Newbie to this site, but have been off and on taking part in this venture for a few years. One item that has always stifled me is ways of funding this "hobby". I am married (bad me, I know). With this day and age of direct deposit, banking apps, credit card apps, and all the other electronic ways of tracking money, I am out of ideas on how to sneak some cash or other funding mechanism every so often without bringing up suspicion. We have joint bank accounts, and if I said I wanted a separate one, that would also lead to some suspicion. Does anyone on here have some suggestions?Don't tell her you're making a new account with a new bank. Start an allotment from your work that adds money to that account. When you're checking out at Walmart do cash back throw the receipt away. There are ways. Cash jobs on the side. Taking out cash for someone's going away gift at work. There's def ways just got to get creative.
Don't tell her you're making a new account with a new bank. Start an allotment from your work that adds money to that account. When you're checking out at Walmart do cash back throw the receipt away. There are ways. Cash jobs on the side. Taking out cash for someone's going away gift at work. There's def ways just got to get creative.Thanks for all the suggestions. Some of them might have some merit. I've got a very suspicious wife, so I have to take this slowly and make sure all my bases are covered. Do you think most of the people on this site are married?
IndyAssMan
11-20-23, 18:18
Thanks for all the suggestions. Some of them might have some merit. I've got a very suspicious wife, so I have to take this slowly and make sure all my bases are covered. Do you think most of the people on this site are married?A couple things I have done. When you get a raise have some or all of the increase deposited to another bank account that you have setup. So easy to setup a separate account online. Give a bogus address however, and chose online statements to the email address you have setup for this account. As long as your wife is not looking at your paystubs every week this might work for you. Same works for a bonus as well. Yes, I am married and been doing this for a couple years now.
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