View Full Version : WYP, SA, and other SD sites
I thought I would post this new thread up to try to. Weed out the girls who seem to think that WYP is a career opportunity and not a dating site. The girls from the SD sites are welcome here too if you guys want to put them in too.
I will get this started with a list of user names that I have been out with from WYP that have been a.complete waste of time and money.
Letshavefun1.
Hellomochi.
Kiki359.
Only our Secret.
Casinorealdeal.
Juliebug301.
Shana01.
Just thought pulling this subject to a separate thread might help weed out some of the chick's looking to make a buck doing nothing but going out on dates.
I have not had much luck with dates from WhatsYourPrice. SOme of the ones I tried are.
AudreyBaby91 - Nice girl with a spinner body. Met for dinner in Hampden and had a nice time, but nothing happened. We talked about meeting again after Christmas for dinner or a movie, and when we did dinner again, I thought it was for my charm. When I walked her to her car, we had an awkward moment of silence, and when I said "oh, did you want to be paid?" she said yes. No goodnight kiss or anything. Haven't talked to her since.
Beauty0306 - Nice slender girl. Met for dinner and had a nice time. Said goodnight and arranged to meet again. She said the next time she would not charge me the next time. When I called her to arrange something, her young daughter answered and then we were disconnected. Tried email with no luck. Gave up after that.
Crystallove_ - pregnant spinner who accepted my offer. After exchanging a few messages, with her last being "I was thinking maybe we could just go out for some coffee or something so we can talk and get to know each other. " I responded saying that would be fine to get to know each other. Gave her my number, but never heard from her again.
Snacks. A nice slender black girl. Her profile said for first date a nice dinner. When I texted with her, she quoted $100 for a BJ, and $150 for full service. Guess she wasn't hungry after all. We did do a massage for $100 which was nice, but haven't repeated.
All the girls I've dated pretty much said the same thing; "my friend told me about this site and thought I'd try it. Yada yada yada. I think they think it is an easy way to make money without being obligated to do anything. What could be easier than being paid $100 to have a guy treat you to dinner. LOL.
I guess with suckers like me paying, they'll keep doing the same thing. If anyone has dated any of these girls, let me know if you had a different experience.
I only paid 2 of these girls. One other got ditched and stuck with a pretty hefty dinner check once I figured out what she was up to. The rest I didn't get with as they pretty much admitted what they were up to in chat.
Wolverineman
08-17-15, 08:03
I think this is a great idea. I have been on SA for a little more than a yearand would love to hear others experiences and what they paid. I have seen a few posts, notably from Tonygrt regarding succes on SA. I have had several meet and greets and last year I was successful with a cute college girl from Loyola who has since graduated and moved on. I have been looking for more this upcoming school year, but curious to see who others are talking to and what they are paying. So far, the ones I have talked to were all looking for $1,500.00 to $2,000.00 a month to meet three or four times a month. That seems very high. I will give a further report once I start meeting again for this school year.
SpiceOfLife
08-17-15, 13:11
I think this is a great idea. I have been on SA for a little more than a yearand would love to hear others experiences and what they paid. I have seen a few posts, notably from Tonygrt regarding succes on SA. I have had several meet and greets and last year I was successful with a cute college girl from Loyola who has since graduated and moved on. I have been looking for more this upcoming school year, but curious to see who others are talking to and what they are paying. So far, the ones I have talked to were all looking for $1,500.00 to $2,000.00 a month to meet three or four times a month. That seems very high. I will give a further report once I start meeting again for this school year.I had a lot of success using SA last year, dropped my membership in the spring because I have several regulars and don't need any new SB's at the moment. At first it was frustrating, and the temptation is there to overpay, especially if you find a diamond. I was talking to plenty of girls who wanted $350-$500 per date, but my first SB accepted $200/ date and was hot as hell. I then found a sweet little blonde 18 why / o college cutie who I'm still with, and another 22 why / o honey, plus a girl from Dundalk, all of whom I still see. I pay anywhere from $100-$200 per date which could be a night out with dinner and playtime, or could be playtime only for a couple hours of debauchery. Many Mongers on this board will cringe at that price, but we're not talking about crack hoes either. None are going to rush me to get to their pharmacist or the next John, and only one of them is really needy (and she's the best lay out of them so I tolerate it). I used to frequent mid-high end escorts, so the price is a step down from what I was paying, but I am seeing the same girls over and over so my variety isn't the same.
I had a lot of success using SA last year, dropped my membership in the spring because I have several regulars and don't need any new SB's at the moment. At first it was frustrating, and the temptation is there to overpay, especially if you find a diamond. I was talking to plenty of girls who wanted $350-$500 per date, but my first SB accepted $200/ date and was hot as hell. I then found a sweet little blonde 18 why / o college cutie who I'm still with, and another 22 why / o honey, plus a girl from Dundalk, all of whom I still see. I pay anywhere from $100-$200 per date which could be a night out with dinner and playtime, or could be playtime only for a couple hours of debauchery. Many Mongers on this board will cringe at that price, but we're not talking about crack hoes either. None are going to rush me to get to their pharmacist or the next John, and only one of them is really needy (and she's the best lay out of them so I tolerate it). I used to frequent mid-high end escorts, so the price is a step down from what I was paying, but I am seeing the same girls over and over so my variety isn't the same.Totally agree with you on that, I have gotten away from the SW game and am totally into the SB thing got one that I been seeing in Essex for three years now and I drop at 100-150 beans and give her little help when she needs it here and there best decision I have ever made.
Johnfamous
08-20-15, 10:24
I'm so happy someone started a thread for WYP and SA. I have tried dipping my toes in those waters a lot this summer. I have pretty much decided to give up on WYP. Here's a bit about my experiences.
Love2 kissu was my first date. She told me straight up that gift on the site was only to get the conversation going and we should meet for lunch to talk about the real donation and relationship. When we met she told me she wanted to meet a couple of times a week and I could give her whatever gift I wanted. When I told her a couple of times a week would be tough for me to do, she told me she would be looking for other lovers. Went back to her place and she took off the tent or large awning she was wearing and changed into a nighty. She was really eager, but she was huge! I wasn't able to manage the mechanics of satisfying such a large woman with any of my body parts except my hand. Very big women is not my thing. It was a pity though. She was very nice, eager, and ready to host. Just not the right woman for me.
Whitelillygirl in Hagerstown was my second conversation. She also said the amount stated on WYP was just to open the conversation. She was married and wanted me to meet her and her husband for dinner before we started meeting privately. That sounded fine, but then it turned out she wanted 1 k per meeting once we got started. Too much for me.
GirlDownForFun. I won't go into details publicly. Just stay away.
AudreyBaby91. I got suckered into the. 1 gift to take her out to lunch. She only wants a platonic relationship and to be given gifts of money for her time.
Letshavefun1. Same as Audrey but wants more treats flowers, pedicure, donations for time spent with nothing else going on.
I've had more conversations with others, but I'm convinced they all want the price for the date and aren't ready to do anything. The odds are stacked against the guy.
Brightmind8 is being very persistent about setting up our date. We've been talking all summer. I haven't actually met her yet. Does anyone have any experience with her? I am supposed to do 180 date with her. She is being very persistent for someone who is going to get only 180. Let me know.
Traveling John #2
08-20-15, 23:59
I stopped shooting for the moon with WYP and tell the girls up front that it is going to be at least half the gift for a quick drink to make sure we have some connection. Juliebug is cute as hell and she hints at doing more. Collagegirl99 was neat to meet but again the would prefer platonic relationship. Heavenscent was really funny. We meet and can barely talk but I asked if she was open to meeting again and she was like no way, so does that mean we can play? Well in that case it is $$ with a list of rules. She said she was using CL for a few dates. Nightowl was a train wreck and obvious signs of habits not to mention played the saving myself for the right guy.
SA is much better and my success rate was pretty good though most of my friends have moved to different areas.
SpiceOfLife
08-21-15, 11:03
I joined about a year ago. I had no Sugar Daddy experience whatsoever but I had read the Richmond SD thread for months and I decided that the SD life was what I was looking for. When I first joined, I was contacted by a number of prospects, most of whom were in the $350 - $500 range for a date. Some were asking $250 or more to meet for dinner, and then negotiate the arrangement. I think that some of the higher price babies look for fresh meat to pounce on before the Daddy has some time to see what the market is. I knew going in that I wasn't going to spend anywhere near that amount if I wanted to get laid more than a couple times a month. I had some rejection because I didn't know how to talk to the ladies at first. My first Meet and Greet was cancelled at the last minute because she accused me of looking for a prostitute. Probably just as well. I had a great match with a girl in Timonium, but I was so excited to get started after our M&G that I guess I scared her away. Lots of rookie mistakes. Finally I met my first SB prospect in Delaware, a 30 year old tall blonde who was smoking hot and hadn't had sex in over a year. I was also her first Sugar Daddy. After some dinner and drinks we went straight to a room and got the party started. Definitely a best case scenario for a first date, but the distance was too great to get together easily and we never reunited after several failed attempts. I had several more M&G's. Several girls never showed or called for our initial meets. One girl who was very overweight (but do-able still!) wanted $500 per date. That's when I texted a little 18 year old college girl from the DC area and we hit it off and have been seeing each other ever since. I'm also her first SD. She was looking for about $600-$800/ month support, lived at home so no major bills, and could drive to me. She has never asked me for any emergency money. What a sweetheart, and she's got the tightest, pinkest kitty and can deep throat like a champ.
I also met a few other ladies on SA. One who I see about twice a week from Glen Burnie. She's become my number 1 since my college girl's schedule has made it hard to get together as much. She is always texting me asking for emergency loans. Rent, phone, BGE. Every week it's something. Damn that kitty is the most perfect I have ever mashed though. She's always wet and tight every time we meet. I met Victoria who has been mentioned often on these pages, also Lilly who a few of you mongers have experienced. Most of the girls who I have met as a SD are bisexual. I also posted ads on Craigslist and Back page. I met one girl thru my CL ad. She was a squirter and a lot of fun, but I gave that up after a few dates because my other SB's were already taking most of my cash. I joined WYP but never met anyone there. I noticed that there and on SD4 Me that many of the same girls were on SA and WYP so I wouldn't recommend joining more than one sight at a time. Be patient, it took me a few months to find a SB that was a good match. There are also plenty of escorts on the SD sites, looking for another source of income. I've done the escort scene (as most of you have) and that's not what I'm looking for anymore. I don't want to be one of 3-5 guys she's f*g that day. I try to weed them out and concentrate on a baby that only needs 1 Daddy.
LibidoLuvr
08-22-15, 09:09
I'm new to this site. But curious. To know what is some on the terms. Like what's (SA)?
I'm new to this site. But curious. To know what is some on the terms. Like what's (SA)?SeekingArrangements.com
WhatsYourPrice.com
EstablishedMen.com
These are some of the sites.
Well that didn't take long. The guy started a thread to identify women that take advantage of WYP and of course you turn it into a creepy erotic story brag with no information at all.Spice,
It seems to me that you are the master of fishing! Well done and thanks for sharing your wisdom with us. Some people seem to think these sb want to be passed around like an escort, it doesn't work like that. Some girls enjoy the gifts, get greedy and turn to utr, like Lilly, that's why I stopped seeing her too high risk for my taste. Others enjoy the security and benefit of one sd.
Keep fishing!!
T.
Horsetrader
08-22-15, 13:37
Well that didn't take long. The guy started a thread to identify women that take advantage of WYP and of course you turn it into a creepy erotic story brag with no information at all.Actually, there was a great deal of information without slamming specific girls. That post gives us all a good idea of what to expect if we start dealing with sugar babies. I think it is the most valuable post so far in this thread.
Ok. I started this thread to provide information on another subset of this game we all seem to enjoy. Be it the good ones or outing the bad ones, all information is welcome.
Apparently, the powers that be have decided that I should be the one to moderate this discussion. Per the rules, anything that even remotely resembles an attack or just being argumentative will be deleted.
Let's keep this on track, and we can all glean some information and have a good time. Yes, the sb / sd dynamic is way different than any other part of this game, but it is the same in many respects.
I prefer to share the good ones through the back channels due to the more discrete nature of these arrangents. If you have a question about a specific girl on WYP or SA, hit me up. If she has struck me as a BSer, her name will more than likely be here.
On a lighter note, I have made a connection on SA with a baby that would like to explore the BDSM world. No talk of sugar from me, and she would obviously rather see one Daddy as her profile has been deleted.
I will try to keep you guys updated.
Today I met up with my local favorite SB that I've been seeing for the last few months. I met her off SA but I've since cancelled my subscription because her and other SB's that I have, some local, some not, have been keeping me busy.
My little baby was in need for some funds and being a good daddy I was willing to help but she needed to do her part. We met at my lair and then proceeded to go have a nice relaxing lunch, outdoors to enjoy the wonderful weather. I could tell my baby was anxious to do the deed so we directly went back to the lair. Once there I had her deep throating my Viagra fueled cock. Little baby did a good job. I then proceeded to plow that wet kitty as deep as my semi would allow (BB of course). It took a while but I eventually finished. Little baby earned her money.
This is a true story. I met her off SA but I will only share if others have something to trade.
Keep fishing and be safe.
BJ69.
Today I met up with my local favorite SB that I've been seeing for the last few months. I met her off SA but I've since cancelled my subscription because her and other SB's that I have, some local, some not, have been keeping me busy.
My little baby was in need for some funds and being a good daddy I was willing to help but she needed to do her part. We met at my lair and then proceeded to go have a nice relaxing lunch, outdoors to enjoy the wonderful weather. I could tell my baby was anxious to do the deed so we directly went back to the lair. Once there I had her deep throating my Viagra fueled cock. Little baby did a good job. I then proceeded to plow that wet kitty as deep as my semi would allow (BB of course). It took a while but I eventually finished. Little baby earned her money.
This is a true story. I met her off SA but I will only share if others have something to trade.
Keep fishing and be safe.
BJ69.Very glad you finally had a good time, typically you seem to be so negative. Hopefully she will continue to see you again, enjoy your SB. Hopefully when your finished with her you will share the wealth like the rest of us.
Sfrancis118
08-31-15, 07:36
So, I finally joined SA, and having a great time. Met one pot for a quuck drink agreed to terms and went to the FC the next day. She is sexy as hell and does everything I want. Just not a lot to talk about. I'm wondering if I committed to early and should sample more first. I can't afford to juggle more than 1 at the same time. With that said, my question is what degree of negotiations have you guys had on SA. I've been searching only for minimal and negotiable ads. Practical is still too high for me. I'm sure everyone is negotiable. But to what degree? Are you able to negotiate with 100% of the girls? 10%? Are you able to bring a $3000 month girl down to 500 or more like $2500. Any feedback and shared experiences would be appreciated.
SpiceOfLife
08-31-15, 08:20
So, I finally joined SA, and having a great time. Met one pot for a quuck drink agreed to terms and went to the FC the next day. She is sexy as hell and does everything I want. Just not a lot to talk about. I'm wondering if I committed to early and should sample more first. I can't afford to juggle more than 1 at the same time. With that said, my question is what degree of negotiations have you guys had on SA. I've been searching only for minimal and negotiable ads. Practical is still too high for me. I'm sure everyone is negotiable. But to what degree? Are you able to negotiate with 100% of the girls? 10%? Are you able to bring a $3000 month girl down to 500 or more like $2500. Any feedback and shared experiences would be appreciated.First, this is a great time to find a new SB. Many college students are looking for some extra income to cover their books and living expenses and a SD is perfect for many of them. I also focused on the minimal and negotiable ads, but I talked to many others in other allowance ranges for the experience. Some girls have pipe dreams that a SD will come along and give them thousands of dollars a month, but most quickly realize that those daddies are few and far between and will negotiate to at least have some extra income until Prince Moneybags comes along. I also committed on my first SB date, but so what? These things are designed to be temporary relationships and that makes moving on much easier when the time comes. That time may be in a week or two when you find a hotter SB who better fits into your budget. I also tell POTs that it will take several dates to figure out if we're compatible enough to commit to something longer. That gives you an easy exit strategy if things aren't what you expected. It took a while to lock down a great SB for me, but once I did the negotiation became much easier with other POTs because I was already set and now the SB has to meet my expectations or move on. And you can bet that most of the SB's are always fishing the waters for that rare SD who will pay them $500/ date just to look good on his arm. When she finds him, you will be dropped immediately. It works both ways.
I have a personal limit both monthly and per-date. I don't worry so much about how much they'll come down from their asking price. I tell them I have "X dollars" to spend per date and anticipate taking them out "X" times per month and that's it. I offered one girl $50 more than that per date and she didn't show up for our first FC date. Never saw her again.
Wolverineman
09-21-15, 16:58
I have started meeting several girls from SA, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. All of them were looking for $400 plus per meeting or allowances of $1,500.00 a month or more. Not sure if this is typical, but it has been my experience so far. The girls have all been very good looking, great bodies and college age. Has anyone had any experience with this one. She goes by Bella on SA. She looks so familiar to me.
Marcus Weiner
09-21-15, 20:10
I was going to see her, but another girl who I like better matched the offer. You're kidding yourselves if you think they get what they're asking for. I'm not giving them anything close to what they asked for initially. Please do not ask me what I negotiated. Perform your own due diligence and you can get what I got. MW.
I have started meeting several girls from SA, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. All of them were looking for $400 plus per meeting or allowances of $1,500.00 a month or more. Not sure if this is typical, but it has been my experience so far. The girls have all been very good looking, great bodies and college age. Has anyone had any experience with this one. She goes by Bella on SA. She looks so familiar to me.
John HandCock
09-21-15, 22:23
So, I finally joined SA, and having a great time. Met one pot for a quuck drink agreed to terms and went to the FC the next day. She is sexy as hell and does everything I want. Just not a lot to talk about. I'm wondering if I committed to early and should sample more first. I can't afford to juggle more than 1 at the same time. With that said, my question is what degree of negotiations have you guys had on SA. I've been searching only for minimal and negotiable ads. Practical is still too high for me. I'm sure everyone is negotiable. But to what degree? Are you able to negotiate with 100% of the girls? 10%? Are you able to bring a $3000 month girl down to 500 or more like $2500. Any feedback and shared experiences would be appreciated.If she quotes a price your not comfortable with just say sorry your out of my league. If her quote is non negotiable in her mind she will let you walk. If it is negotiable she will ask what you had in mind. If she does this then let the negotiations begin. Start low and if you think she is worth it you can come up. Always be polite and if you aren't able to make a arrangement thank her for her time and move on.
Wolverineman
09-22-15, 08:11
I was going to see her, but another girl who I like better matched the offer. You're kidding yourselves if you think they get what they're asking for. I'm not giving them anything close to what they asked for initially. Please do not ask me what I negotiated. Perform your own due diligence and you can get what I got. MW.Thanks for the tip regarding the negotiations. My experience so far on SA is that there are two categories of girls. The true college girls, in school, full time classes, sorority girls and the one and done, backpage, possible SW, asking for a lot more than they would normally get because they are on SA. The true college girls I have found will not budge much from what they are initially looking for, but I would also characterize them as a true sugar baby. The one and done or non-college girls are much more willing to negotiate after asking for alot, but are also more apt to see a lot of different guys. To each his own. Good Luck out there.
SpiceOfLife
09-22-15, 08:16
If she quotes a price your not comfortable with just say sorry your out of my league. If her quote is non negotiable in her mind she will let you walk. If it is negotiable she will ask what you had in mind. If she does this then let the negotiations begin. Start low and if you think she is worth it you can come up. Always be polite and if you aren't able to make a arrangement thank her for her time and move on.I've been in a handful of arrangements since I started a year ago, and have never had to pay more than $200 per date. My current SB will take whatever I can give her, but I'm seriously thinking of taking a major step and getting her out of her current shitty living situation, and covering rent and utilities plus allowance for her to move. I figure I'll spend about what I am now, and get to hit it whenever I want. Taking room rentals out of the equation, which sets me back several hundred a month already, and will also save time driving her back and forth to the FC. Anyone else ever do this? I wouldn't have considered it, but the sex is SOOO good and I haven't gotten tired of her after 9 months of seeing her 1-2 times a week. If I can up that to 3-4 times a week for the same money, why not? I'd have to commit to her for 3-6 months to make it work.
IluvSmellyFish
09-22-15, 08:46
Spice. Like you I have found the going allowance for bmore to be no more than 100-200. This is even for high quality girls. The tradeoff is that after dinner, entertainment, and a room, the end cost is equivalent to a mod or high end escort. Of course with a SB I have never felt like I'm on the clock, and the quality of lady is much improved.
The downside of course is that many of these ladies are not in of for pay to play which means that there is a huge time investment involved.
I hear you about the cost of hotels. Also your plans for your baby are admirable. If you don't have a SO then it sounds like this one is going to be more than just another baby. There are risks that I see though. First, if she becomes dependent on the you because of the place, then walking away from her if you find another baby or have the need for more variety might become difficult. Also, if you need to set her up and in the process need to put things in your name (e. G. Lease, utilities, etc) then in the event of a bad breakup in the future, she could trash the place and then you'll be left holding the bag.
Without knowing your particular situation though, putting her up might be a great idea. I tend to see the risks though.
One other option might be to get your own studio apartment on the cheap out in the burbs. This would get rid of the need for hotels if you play in one area. You could bring her over and let her stay there for long periods of time, but with the understanding that when its time to go, its time to go. Then you could also use it for your other sbs.
Good to see a thread like this on the bmore page. I play in the mid-atlantic and bmore is one of my favorite spots for the quality and quantity of babies. I used to post on the Richmond board, but that thread is near dead / dying.
Fish out.
I've been in a handful of arrangements since I started a year ago, and have never had to pay more than $200 per date. My current SB will take whatever I can give her, but I'm seriously thinking of taking a major step and getting her out of her current shitty living situation, and covering rent and utilities plus allowance for her to move. I figure I'll spend about what I am now, and get to hit it whenever I want. Taking room rentals out of the equation, which sets me back several hundred a month already, and will also save time driving her back and forth to the FC. Anyone else ever do this? I wouldn't have considered it, but the sex is SOOO good and I haven't gotten tired of her after 9 months of seeing her 1-2 times a week. If I can up that to 3-4 times a week for the same money, why not? I'd have to commit to her for 3-6 months to make it work.
SpiceOfLife
09-22-15, 09:31
Spice. Like you I have found the going allowance for bmore to be no more than 100-200. This is even for high quality girls. The tradeoff is that after dinner, entertainment, and a room, the end cost is equivalent to a mod or high end escort. Of course with a SB I have never felt like I'm on the clock, and the quality of lady is much improved.
The downside of course is that many of these ladies are not in of for pay to play which means that there is a huge time investment involved.
I hear you about the cost of hotels. Also your plans for your baby are admirable. If you don't have a SO then it sounds like this one is going to be more than just another baby. There are risks that I see though. First, if she becomes dependent on the you because of the place, then walking away from her if you find another baby or have the need for more variety might become difficult. Also, if you need to set her up and in the process need to put things in your name (e. G. Lease, utilities, etc) then in the event of a bad breakup in the future, she could trash the place and then you'll be left holding the bag.
Without knowing your particular situation though, putting her up might be a great idea. I tend to see the risks though.
One other option might be to get your own studio apartment on the cheap out in the burbs. This would get rid of the need for hotels if you play in one area. You could bring her over and let her stay there for long periods of time, but with the understanding that when its time to go, its time to go. Then you could also use it for your other sbs.
Good to see a thread like this on the bmore page. I play in the mid-atlantic and bmore is one of my favorite spots for the quality and quantity of babies. I used to post on the Richmond board, but that thread is near dead / dying.
Fish out.Yeah I've been weighing the risks. I do have a SO. I would have the place put in her name, probably would have to be a room rental or shared residence situation, but I would pay the bills. I have a monthly allowance in mind that approximates what I'm paying now but improves her situation and mine as well. A studio apartment is not a bad idea! She has a child though and that complicates things.
I was seeing escorts regularly, both the high end and the BP girls, but I had gotten stood up so many times and the girls I could depend on keep raising their prices as the economy starts to come back and the hotel rates keep going up. I was at a function for escorts and clients one night and a fellow monger was raving about his success as a Sugar Daddy and it put me on this path. He was right. I'm having the best sex I've ever had, and more often than I've ever had, and I don't have to worry about racing the clock to try to get that load out any more. My SB lives close by, and is basically on call for me. I give up the variety I once had, but also the frustrations that come with being stood up, worrying about LEO with new connections, etc. And I'm spending less per date than I have in years even though I'm banging 19-22 year old hotties that could command much more if they wanted to become escorts. Plus, I could never take my escort companions to concerts, ball games, dinner, etc. Without paying that hourly rate that they're fixated on. Overnighters might cost $1000 or more. My SB doesn't expect more than she would get for any other date if we do an overnighter.
It is a major commitment. I'm on the fence about it, but if we got her an affordable place then she has the freedom to drop me for a better paying SD down the road if she wants. I figure that I would commit for a certain time, then we would re-evaluate.
IluvSmellyFish
09-22-15, 11:46
Tough tradeoffs. I have not found a baby yet that I would consider that kind of commitment with. The most I've done is to provide a very generous allowance to take her off market. Which gives her the freedom to do with it as she pleases, but also squarely leaves me in full control. As they say, give a baby a fish, and she will eat for a day, teach a baby to fish, and she might just start eating without you.
I have a two services that provide high quality ladies that I'm sure you're already aware of. Often times when I am preserving for time and need the release I will contact one of those services. This way there is never a problem with quality or concerns that a lady won't be up to standard. I stopped using BP because of constant quality issues and the risks involved. I found that even if I found a gem on bp, the quality would only last for a short time until she burned out or dissappeared. I also found that even reviews didn't always help because some reports were of suspect quality and because with all situations, ymmv. I would get irritated making even a small donation because of the time wasted and cash wasted for an experience that left a bad taste in my mouth.
The bowl is great, but not for everyone. I've found that if you're looking for someting beyond just a UTR or escort pretending to be a baby, then it requires time, game, and a level of commitment that isn't necessary with other aspects of the hobby. Of course like you, I thoroughly enjoy the rewards that come with that time committment, and so for me the tradeoff is worth it. Others may not have the ability to do an overnight because of a SO, or alternatively may not want to provide the kind of emotional and mental support. In addition to the financial support that many of these babies need.
As an aside, there are various sites that should help to keep your costs down if you continue to use hotels. For example there is one booking site that gives you one night free for every ten booked. Others can provide steep discounts.
I have toyed with the idea of a room rental or a apartment share agreement with another SD to keep my costs down. Of course because I don't limit my play to one area the concept is easier in theory than in real life. More importantly finding someone to share the room would be difficult at best.
Yeah I've been weighing the risks. I do have a SO. I would have the place put in her name, probably would have to be a room rental or shared residence situation, but I would pay the bills. I have a monthly allowance in mind that approximates what I'm paying now but improves her situation and mine as well. A studio apartment is not a bad idea! She has a child though and that complicates things.
I was seeing escorts regularly, both the high end and the BP girls, but I had gotten stood up so many times and the girls I could depend on keep raising their prices as the economy starts to come back and the hotel rates keep going up. I was at a function for escorts and clients one night and a fellow monger was raving about his success as a Sugar Daddy and it put me on this path. He was right. I'm having the best sex I've ever had, and more often than I've ever had, and I don't have to worry about racing the clock to try to get that load out any more. My SB lives close by, and is basically on call for me. I give up the variety I once had, but also the frustrations that come with being stood up, worrying about LEO with new connections, etc. And I'm spending less per date than I have in years even though I'm banging 19-22 year old hotties that could command much more if they wanted to become escorts. Plus, I could never take my escort companions to concerts, ball games, dinner, etc. Without paying that hourly rate that they're fixated on. Overnighters might cost $1000 or more. My SB doesn't expect more than she would get for any other date if we do an overnighter.
It is a major commitment. I'm on the fence about it, but if we got her an affordable place then she has the freedom to drop me for a better paying SD down the road if she wants. I figure that I would commit for a certain time, then we would re-evaluate.
Traveling John #2
09-30-15, 02:55
Recently met up with this chick. Man she was about the same as a street walker at over backpage price. I finally had enough and took her home. Super skinny with signs of use and was try to get max dollar and rush the meeting. She would do a car date but wanted me than usual.
Just a heads up, Lola101 is a scammer. She is cute enough and she will produce if left with no other real option but she is constantly working a scam and simply not worth the trouble with other fish in the sea. She had what looked like some vein damage on her arm that she claimed came from a poorly installed pick-line and is probably more likely use but she has all of her teeth and is not skin and bones so her use must be under control if she uses.
Traveling John #2
10-05-15, 23:35
I have been chatting with this girl for a while and decide to go for the meet and she is looking for $$ to just meet.
Just a heads up, Lola101 is a scammer. She is cute enough and she will produce if left with no other real option but she is constantly working a scam and simply not worth the trouble with other fish in the sea. She had what looked like some vein damage on her arm that she claimed came from a poorly installed pick-line and is probably more likely use but she has all of her teeth and is not skin and bones so her use must be under control if she uses.Is she still claiming to be homeless in Waverly? She was trying to pull that bullshit with me. She was practically begging me to come see her and give her money. Telling me that she finally such into someone's back yard to charge her phone that had been dead. For a week when I saw her on wyp every day. I called her out on her bullshit, and she tried back tracking. Still texts me once in a while telling me she can't get me off her mind and she is falling for me, etc. Whatever.
Johnfamous
10-06-15, 17:08
I have been chatting with this girl for a while and decide to go for the meet and she is looking for $$ to just meet.John you need to clear out your inbox. You are over your limit. Here is my experience with ginger. I met gingers7 over the summer for a nice lunch. I did insist that I was not going to pay $$ just to meet her, but did buy her a nice lunch. We had a nice conversation, and I do not me any thing physical happened. She is a nice person and is looking for long term support with one person. And it was clear that nothing was going to happen until we had been going out for awhile. So, I decided she was too much effort and never called her back after the first meeting. Just so you know.
She is working her BS in Essex.
Is she still claiming to be homeless in Waverly? She was trying to pull that bullshit with me. She was practically begging me to come see her and give her money. Telling me that she finally such into someone's back yard to charge her phone that had been dead. For a week when I saw her on wyp every day. I called her out on her bullshit, and she tried back tracking. Still texts me once in a while telling me she can't get me off her mind and she is falling for me, etc. Whatever.
Recently met up with this chick. Man she was about the same as a street walker at over backpage price. I finally had enough and took her home. Super skinny with signs of use and was try to get max dollar and rush the meeting. She would do a car date but wanted me than usual.I have been texting on and off with her. I was trying to get her to under 2 for some fun. If she is as you describe, I would have bailed. She was talking in the 3 range for 2 hours, but something g in my gut told me she isn't worth it. Glad I stayed away now.
She is working her BS in Essex.Essex, huh? I still think she was the redhead that Rita Rose from the NP board was living with in the house in Joppa.
Wolverineman
10-09-15, 10:22
Does anyone have any experience with this one. Goes by Sara Sara Sara on SA. She seems like a real live wire and I am arranging an M&G shortly.
Traveling John #2
10-09-15, 14:25
I have been texting on and off with her. I was trying to get her to under 2 for some fun. If she is as you describe, I would have bailed. She was talking in the 3 range for 2 hours, but something g in my gut told me she isn't worth it. Glad I stayed away now.Agreed. She was all about the money and wanted to know how much she could make for going to coffee. She doesn't have a place and was willing to car date but wanted way over 100. Didn't even budget so she clearly thinks she has something special.
Wolverineman
10-13-15, 08:47
Met up with Bella the other day at a motel on Pulaski Highway. Tall, skinny, long, long legs and very accommodating. She goes by Bella Baby on SA. Lots of tattoos, which doesn't bother me. Definitely recommend.
Member #5578
10-13-15, 10:13
Just found this site while researching someone on SA. I figured I'd provide a rundown of some of my experiences.
All of these are WYP.
Longislandbaby. New will chat and message a lot, good in person, intimacy only when ready, keeps teasing me about a second date, has added an SA account. Honestly not thinking you will get anywhere with her.
Lwndsr / Julic1 - New, both roommates at local college, had messaged both and then found this out. Took them to dinner, discussed other activities and they actually came over for threesome, but chickened out. Refunded my money, polite about it. I was supposedly their first, I think with some work they are possible down the road. Lwndsr seems more into crazy stuff.
JulieBug301 - same as everyone else has said, I think she is more looking to be paid for dates. Also has an SA account.
VivaLaSydnie. Best friends with JulieBug301, young and acts it, was a turnoff for me.
Oneandonly1 - She responded to me on WYP, not on SA. That's always telling, have never actually gotten to meeting, scheduling is a * She had some kinky private photos posted at one point so I've still tried to meet up now and again.
Cocobabygf. Actually met her via SA, cute, little shy but willing to get right down to business.
SA:
GingerS7 - Same as everyone else, actually got two dates, offered minimal for no intimacy, but she is just impossible to get a hold of, eventually teased her with a big chunk of change and pissed her off, oh well.
There are bunch of AA girls on SA that could be sure things, but its usually not my cup of tea.
It's just as bad as regular dating almost. I'd love to hear of any gems folks would be willing to share. I'd be glad to share a few I've had very good luck with privately.
UpToNoGood05
10-15-15, 21:30
Gents, I have a UTR to share in the Burtonsville, MD area. She's cool with my referencing her to other guys on this forum. Met her through Seeking Arrangement and had a fun night with her in her townhouse over the weekend. She will quote $$. 50 for the evening, but you can bargain her down to $$ if persistent. Heavy set, 35 year old Caucasian, married but open relationship. You are allowed to spend multiple hours with her but no overnight: MSOG, BBBJ (greatest I've had), loves DFK. Amateur weight lifter, can clean and jerk 135 pounds. If interested, PM me and I'll tell you more.
Traveling John #2
10-16-15, 17:37
Just found this site while researching someone on SA. I figured I'd provide a rundown of some of my experiences.
All of these are WYP.
Longislandbaby. New will chat and message a lot, good in person, intimacy only when ready, keeps teasing me about a second date, has added an SA account. Honestly not thinking you will get anywhere with her.
Lwndsr / Julic1 - New, both roommates at local college, had messaged both and then found this out. Took them to dinner, discussed other activities and they actually came over for threesome, but chickened out. Refunded my money, polite about it. I was supposedly their first, I think with some work they are possible down the road. Lwndsr seems more into crazy stuff.
JulieBug301 - same as everyone else has said, I think she is more looking to be paid for dates. Also has an SA account.
VivaLaSydnie. Best friends with JulieBug301, young and acts it, was a turnoff for me.
Oneandonly1 - She responded to me on WYP, not on SA. That's always telling, have never actually gotten to meeting, scheduling is a * She had some kinky private photos posted at one point so I've still tried to meet up now and again.
Cocobabygf. Actually met her via SA, cute, little shy but willing to get right down to business.
SA:
GingerS7 - Same as everyone else, actually got two dates, offered minimal for no intimacy, but she is just impossible to get a hold of, eventually teased her with a big chunk of change and pissed her off, oh well.
There are bunch of AA girls on SA that could be sure things, but its usually not my cup of tea.
It's just as bad as regular dating almost. I'd love to hear of any gems folks would be willing to share. I'd be glad to share a few I've had very good luck with privately.Secret angel on SA is connected with at least four other people and they love to share information about the shit we send them. If you are cutting and pasting, don't expect many responses.
Met up with Bella the other day at a motel on Pulaski Highway. Tall, skinny, long, long legs and very accommodating. She goes by Bella Baby on SA. Lots of tattoos, which doesn't bother me. Definitely recommend.Thanks for the report. What was the damage?
Did she already have the room?
Norm!
Marcus Weiner
10-16-15, 19:13
Nice girl, tall and thin with tats. She doesn't host, so you'll have to. Sorry Norm, but I never disclose what I give them, LOL. Negotiate your own arrangements! I'm just busting your balls, but seriously if you like tall and skinny, she can be a value! MW
Thanks for the report. What was the damage?
Did she already have the room?
Norm!.
Nice girl, tall and thin with tats. She doesn't host, so you'll have to. Sorry Norm, but I never disclose what I give them, LOL. Negotiate your own arrangements! I'm just busting your balls, but seriously if you like tall and skinny, she can be a value! MW
.I know that is your policy. But I didn't ask you, I asked Wolverineman.
Norm!
Just found this site while researching someone on SA. I figured I'd provide a rundown of some of my experiences.
All of these are WYP.
Longislandbaby. New will chat and message a lot, good in person, intimacy only when ready, keeps teasing me about a second date, has added an SA account. Honestly not thinking you will get anywhere with her.
Lwndsr / Julic1 - New, both roommates at local college, had messaged both and then found this out. Took them to dinner, discussed other activities and they actually came over for threesome, but chickened out. Refunded my money, polite about it. I was supposedly their first, I think with some work they are possible down the road. Lwndsr seems more into crazy stuff.
JulieBug301 - same as everyone else has said, I think she is more looking to be paid for dates. Also has an SA account.
VivaLaSydnie. Best friends with JulieBug301, young and acts it, was a turnoff for me.
Oneandonly1 - She responded to me on WYP, not on SA. That's always telling, have never actually gotten to meeting, scheduling is a * She had some kinky private photos posted at one point so I've still tried to meet up now and again.
Cocobabygf. Actually met her via SA, cute, little shy but willing to get right down to business.
SA:
GingerS7 - Same as everyone else, actually got two dates, offered minimal for no intimacy, but she is just impossible to get a hold of, eventually teased her with a big chunk of change and pissed her off, oh well.
There are bunch of AA girls on SA that could be sure things, but its usually not my cup of tea.
It's just as bad as regular dating almost. I'd love to hear of any gems folks would be willing to share. I'd be glad to share a few I've had very good luck with privately.I corresponded with Cocbabygf who is clearly a pro. After the initial email, she quoted me a rate, and an overnight rate. She said if I understood what she was offering, "we can do business". For me, part of the sugarbaby appeal of WYP and SA is that its very GFE like (at least for me). She sounded cold. Her pics look good, but if I want to pay high end escort prices, I can do that much more easily, and I do not have to get a room (although She may host, after she quoted me $$$ I went silent so I didn't ask.).
Oneandonly1's WYP profile says "I am not a ****titute, do not treat me like one" so I never followed up on her offer to me...
I think WYP does give the ladies a sense of entitlement that SA does not.
Norm!
ShortMan22
10-16-15, 20:05
Just found this site while researching someone on SA. I figured I'd provide a rundown of some of my experiences.
All of these are WYP.
Longislandbaby. New will chat and message a lot, good in person, intimacy only when ready, keeps teasing me about a second date, has added an SA account. Honestly not thinking you will get anywhere with her.
Lwndsr / Julic1 - New, both roommates at local college, had messaged both and then found this out. Took them to dinner, discussed other activities and they actually came over for threesome, but chickened out. Refunded my money, polite about it. I was supposedly their first, I think with some work they are possible down the road. Lwndsr seems more into crazy stuff.
JulieBug301 - same as everyone else has said, I think she is more looking to be paid for dates. Also has an SA account.
VivaLaSydnie. Best friends with JulieBug301, young and acts it, was a turnoff for me.
Oneandonly1 - She responded to me on WYP, not on SA. That's always telling, have never actually gotten to meeting, scheduling is a * She had some kinky private photos posted at one point so I've still tried to meet up now and again.
Cocobabygf. Actually met her via SA, cute, little shy but willing to get right down to business.
SA:
GingerS7 - Same as everyone else, actually got two dates, offered minimal for no intimacy, but she is just impossible to get a hold of, eventually teased her with a big chunk of change and pissed her off, oh well.
There are bunch of AA girls on SA that could be sure things, but its usually not my cup of tea.
It's just as bad as regular dating almost. I'd love to hear of any gems folks would be willing to share. I'd be glad to share a few I've had very good luck with privately.Norm thanks for the great report. I was thinking about joining SA myself. I think that I may just give it a try.
Wolverineman
10-18-15, 01:03
Norm, you can pm me about Bella.
I think WYP does give the ladies a sense of entitlement that SA does not.
Norm!Norm Gerd, I concur with that assessment 100 percent.
Propilot-Always check your six.
Norm, you can pm me about Bella.Hi Wolverineman,
Your mailbox is full. It won't let me send you a message.
Norm!
Cephlapod Love
10-21-15, 12:53
I think WYP does give the ladies a sense of entitlement that SA does not.
Yeah, I agree. One has to spend money just to be able to talk to a girl and offer her tremendous amounts for a platonic date. I don't see the point in that site.
Sign up on SA. Everyone knows what the deal is and no need to pay for a M&G.
I'm just sayin'.
I had more luck on WYP than SA. WYP is aggravating because there are def girls on there who just collect dates (Sydnie!) and jerk you around. But have met with three or four women off there for low amounts and then next time we got together it was to fuck. SA is more "get down to it" but the women want more money. With WYP you can at least get that part out upfront. SA they feel more entitled to seek $$ But both of them I don't' really like. The whole paying for the site I don't like when I can get ass just as good for less off CL still. Takes more effort, but I haven't failed to find some hotties to regularly take my spunk.
Yeah, I agree. One has to spend money just to be able to talk to a girl and offer her tremendous amounts for a platonic date. I don't see the point in that site.
Sign up on SA. Everyone knows what the deal is and no need to pay for a M&G.
I'm just sayin'.
Member #5578
10-21-15, 23:03
Had dinner with oneandonly1 from WYP tonight. Yes I did shell out a small bit for dinner. She's very much a not first date girl, but very very much my ideal type so who knows. She is looking for something more long term and stable. You are not going to get her the first time around.
Here's one I forgot about from SA: Sehnsucht, very willing to meet up for some fun, into kinky stuff if that's your thing. Not a bargain but fair for what is on the table.
SpiceOfLife
10-22-15, 08:41
What's the strategy for WYP? Do you start with like $100 offer to keep the credits down, and negotiate from there, or do you start with a $200 offer or so for someone who looks to be worth it and pay 40 credits just to contact her? Do you lose a lot of credits from non-response? How much messaging do you do on WYP, or do you then take it straight to text messaging? I did a lot on SA but am thinking of trying WYP because the initial cost is lower. Any advice from WYP veterans?
I don't think there's a right or wrong way. Just try a few different approaches, see what's working, and once you get some responses, go with whichever method is working. Don't lock into a strategy, just be flexible and use trial and error.
What's the strategy for WYP? Do you start with like $100 offer to keep the credits down, and negotiate from there, or do you start with a $200 offer or so for someone who looks to be worth it and pay 40 credits just to contact her? Do you lose a lot of credits from non-response? How much messaging do you do on WYP, or do you then take it straight to text messaging? I did a lot on SA but am thinking of trying WYP because the initial cost is lower. Any advice from WYP veterans?
What's the strategy for WYP? Do you start with like $100 offer to keep the credits down, and negotiate from there, or do you start with a $200 offer or so for someone who looks to be worth it and pay 40 credits just to contact her? Do you lose a lot of credits from non-response? How much messaging do you do on WYP, or do you then take it straight to text messaging? I did a lot on SA but am thinking of trying WYP because the initial cost is lower. Any advice from WYP veterans?PM sent. I am not trying to keep any secrets from the membership, but if the powers that be from WYP are trolling, it could fuck up my game there.
Funny Money
10-22-15, 10:54
Am I just searching wrong on SA? Because all the profiles that come up are old and fee in number. :
Had dinner with oneandonly1 from WYP tonight. Yes I did shell out a small bit for dinner. She's very much a not first date girl, but very very much my ideal type so who knows. She is looking for something more long term and stable. You are not going to get her the first time around.
Here's one I forgot about from SA: Sehnsucht, very willing to meet up for some fun, into kinky stuff if that's your thing. Not a bargain but fair for what is on the table.Her listing says "Moderate". How that breaks down into a per meeting number is really unknown to the rest of us. I like kinky, it's a shame she is not my type. And that I am not currently a paying SA member.
Norm!
Member #5578
10-22-15, 15:33
Her listing says "Moderate". How that breaks down into a per meeting number is really unknown to the rest of us. I like kinky, it's a shame she is not my type. And that I am not currently a paying SA member.
Norm!It was $$ no time limit, everything was on the table.
Immanuel Kunt
10-22-15, 15:41
Not for nothing some ladies (knowing your designs) order from the fuck side of the menu.
UpToNoGood05
10-22-15, 20:38
Guys, I have another UTR to share with you. Ayana, 23 years old, Glen Burnie resident, one of my ATF's for sure. This girl loves sex and really wants to please. Very fit and athletic in bed, thin wiry frame, about 5'4" in height. You better bring your A game with this girl!
Ayana is under a little financial strain right now and would love some quality visits from you mongers. She's requesting that I share her contact info with you guys but as always, discretion is a must. Outcall only.
Pm me for details.
Clear out our inbox bud. Had a PM sent that didn't go thru. Nice work on this thread fellas. I'm going to start following this and there's one in the Richmond Sugarbabies area that are pretty informative on Strategies.
Traveling John #2
10-23-15, 20:01
Anyone have experience with this girl out of laurel? Easy to get a hold of but has been a little flaky on meeting up.
I was a paying member on SA a while ago and here's one I met. She's not the best looking but she's a total * I had her texting me pics. I would make pic requests and she would do it. She's down for pretty much anything. Had her drive to baltimore to meet me and not even 5 minutes at my place I have my dick in her mouth. Fucked her in all three holes BB and came in all of them. Her tubes were tied after she had her 5th kid so no worry getting her pregnant. All of the kids live with the exhusband. The only thing it cost me was food and alcohol. We had some food delivered to the house and I told her to answer the door naked and she did it! I told the deliver guy to squeeze her tits and she let him. She drew the line when I told her I wanted her to fuck and suck the delivery guy while I watched. She isn't into FMF because she gets jealous but she will do a MFM. My buddy was going to come over but he couldn't get away from the wife and kids on short notice.
The bad thing is she wants a relationship. Once I gave her my cell she wants constantly calling me. She was telling her friends about me and she wanted me to meet them. I had to block her on my phone cause she kept calling and texting me.
UpToNoGood05
10-24-15, 06:46
Am I just searching wrong on SA? Because all the profiles that come up are old and fee in number. :Maybe you have a box checked down below in one of the categories that you forgot about? I just searched for everyone 100 miles from me and there are 10,000+ profiles. Just hit reset before you search again.
It's not the best search tool I've ever seen, but it gets the job done. I search for key words all the time, especially if I'm looking for a girl who already has sex on her mind so getting her to play on the first date won't be an effort. Words like "host", "nsa", "mutual benefits", "BDSM", etc.
Wolverineman
10-26-15, 09:02
I am meeting this on today from SA and was wondering if anyone had any info on her. Thanks.
BuffBill75
10-26-15, 16:13
Has anyone met up with Brianna126? We are supposed to meet up Friday.
Member #5578
10-26-15, 21:27
Has anyone met up with Brianna126? We are supposed to meet up Friday.I've met her former roommate, not her, she painted an unflattering picture of her as a person, but she is supposedly very willing. She supposedly has also done 3 somes.
Take it all with a grain of salt.
What is the corner where here new photos are taken? She looks familiar but I can't place where I know her.
I've met her former roommate, not her, she painted an unflattering picture of her as a person, but she is supposedly very willing. She supposedly has also done 3 somes.
Take it all with a grain of salt.
Just found this site while researching someone on SA. I figured I'd provide a rundown of some of my experiences.
All of these are WYP.
Longislandbaby. New will chat and message a lot, good in person, intimacy only when ready, keeps teasing me about a second date, has added an SA account. Honestly not thinking you will get anywhere with her.
Lwndsr / Julic1 - New, both roommates at local college, had messaged both and then found this out. Took them to dinner, discussed other activities and they actually came over for threesome, but chickened out. Refunded my money, polite about it. I was supposedly their first, I think with some work they are possible down the road. Lwndsr seems more into crazy stuff.
JulieBug301 - same as everyone else has said, I think she is more looking to be paid for dates. Also has an SA account.
VivaLaSydnie. Best friends with JulieBug301, young and acts it, was a turnoff for me.
Oneandonly1 - She responded to me on WYP, not on SA. That's always telling, have never actually gotten to meeting, scheduling is a * She had some kinky private photos posted at one point so I've still tried to meet up now and again.
Cocobabygf. Actually met her via SA, cute, little shy but willing to get right down to business.
SA:
GingerS7 - Same as everyone else, actually got two dates, offered minimal for no intimacy, but she is just impossible to get a hold of, eventually teased her with a big chunk of change and pissed her off, oh well.
There are bunch of AA girls on SA that could be sure things, but its usually not my cup of tea.
It's just as bad as regular dating almost. I'd love to hear of any gems folks would be willing to share. I'd be glad to share a few I've had very good luck with privately.Contacted Lwndsr, no response. She hasn't logged on in a while. Shame, looks pretty cute. Brianna126 really wants to meet up but not sure about her. Any one had any dealings with BcImNeverBoring.
Traveling John #2
10-28-15, 23:41
She looks good, but is very cautious about meeting. The questions before meeting were annoying but once I net her she is very easy going and fun to talk to. She can sometimes host and is a little past white marsh near the witmanns. I wil, see her again but the distance is a little too much.
Also have another lead if anyone is ever down in lexington, md area. Seniors private message for more details.
White marsh is fine for me. Where do I find her? SA? And recommended donation (I will not mention any knowledge when discussing with her).
Thanks.
She looks good, but is very cautious about meeting. The questions before meeting were annoying but once I net her she is very easy going and fun to talk to. She can sometimes host and is a little past white marsh near the witmanns. I wil, see her again but the distance is a little too much.
Also have another lead if anyone is ever down in lexington, md area. Seniors private message for more details.
Traveling John #2
10-29-15, 23:02
White marsh is fine for me. Where do I find her? SA? And recommended donation (I will not mention any knowledge when discussing with her).
Thanks.She originally wanted crazy amount just to meet. I think she is in a pinch so trying to get as much as possible and also trying to avoid multiple people.
Traveling John #2
10-29-15, 23:07
Anyone have experience with this girl out of laurel? Easy to get a hold of but has been a little flaky on meeting up.She can host in laurel and was very playful. Not as skinny as photos make her look but face is pretty and wears sexy clothes for meeting. She likes to talk but didn't mind when I sped things up.
BuffBill75
11-01-15, 16:53
Ok here is my report on this one. Typical Whiskey Tango Essex girl and former Blockette looking to score some cash to fund her pill problem. She has three kids but you'd never know it from her tight spinner body.
No baby damage and I almost had to check her I'd to make sure she wasn't under. Took her to a notel and did the deed. She can take a pounding for a small chick and I'm not a small guy. However things started to get a bit fishey after a bit so I finished on her face.
Not a clock watcher but some hygiene probs. Good luck guys.
SpiceOfLife
11-02-15, 08:50
Ok here is my report on this one. Typical Whiskey Tango Essex girl and former Blockette looking to score some cash to fund her pill problem. She has three kids but you'd never know it from her tight spinner body.
No baby damage and I almost had to check her I'd to make sure she wasn't under. Took her to a notel and did the deed. She can take a pounding for a small chick and I'm not a small guy. However things started to get a bit fishey after a bit so I finished on her face.
Not a clock watcher but some hygiene probs. Good luck guys.Great info! I was thinking about tapping this one myself.
Ok here is my report on this one. Typical Whiskey Tango Essex girl and former Blockette looking to score some cash to fund her pill problem. She has three kids but you'd never know it from her tight spinner body.
No baby damage and I almost had to check her I'd to make sure she wasn't under. Took her to a notel and did the deed. She can take a pounding for a small chick and I'm not a small guy. However things started to get a bit fishey after a bit so I finished on her face.
Not a clock watcher but some hygiene probs. Good luck guys.I met up with her over the weekend. We had a nice convo and then took a ride to talk a little more privately. Form conversation, she didn't seem to be on anything at the moment. However, you an see that she has "experimented" with various substances. As we were talking and she smile, there are stains near the gums, but otherwise, nice smile. We got comfortable and does have a nice body without baby damage. Some girls are lucky that way. However, the bees are somewhat deflated which was disappointing. She definitely got into the action. Overall, it was a nice experience and I may see her again, but not in regular rotation.
On a side note, beware of kittikat1118 on wyp. Thievery is her specialty (pm for details if you're curious). Soon into the date and she says she has to call her sister. I'm pretty sure it was a handler. She excuses herself to talk privately outside and that was the last I saw her. Thankfully, we had not ordered food yet. For a second, I thought the waitress was going to give me a hug after I told her she left. Now that would have been a story.
Forddiesel06
11-04-15, 13:22
Anyone ever seen this one? She's seem legit. I have a date planned later this week.
Brianna1618
11-04-15, 21:03
I wanted to meet up with Nancy that lives in dundalk an wanted to no of anybody had an fum with her??
I had a lot of success using SA last year, dropped my membership in the spring because I have several regulars and don't need any new SB's at the moment. At first it was frustrating, and the temptation is there to overpay, especially if you find a diamond. I was talking to plenty of girls who wanted $350-$500 per date, but my first SB accepted $200/ date and was hot as hell. I then found a sweet little blonde 18 why / o college cutie who I'm still with, and another 22 why / o honey, plus a girl from Dundalk, all of whom I still see. I pay anywhere from $100-$200 per date which could be a night out with dinner and playtime, or could be playtime only for a couple hours of debauchery. Many Mongers on this board will cringe at that price, but we're not talking about crack hoes either. None are going to rush me to get to their pharmacist or the next John, and only one of them is really needy (and she's the best lay out of them so I tolerate it). I used to frequent mid-high end escorts, so the price is a step down from what I was paying, but I am seeing the same girls over and over so my variety isn't the same.I seen you had a dundalk girl what was her name by chance an what you pay for cause I'm meeting a girl from dundalk named Nancy an wanted to no what I'm paying for if it's her.
I've met her former roommate, not her, she painted an unflattering picture of her as a person, but she is supposedly very willing. She supposedly has also done 3 somes.
Take it all with a grain of salt.Her roommate was it a girl Nancy because I'm meeting her an want to no what to expect for my money.
Traveling John #2
11-06-15, 07:06
She is in Lexington park and is conservative during messaging but a lot of fun and might have been open to playing on first date.
Has anyone meet with this slim young treat yet? Thanks for any assisitance.
I haven't seen anything new about Bella Baby. Last I checked on SA I couldn't find her. Of course, that may be because searching for a username doesn't seem to be possible. I keep looking for her on WYP but no luck there yet. Many girls post on both sites, but not her I guess. Getting cold out and need a warm body for some company. LOL.
Forddiesel06
11-09-15, 15:28
Has anyone meet with this slim young treat yet? Thanks for any assisitance.Tried talking to her and seemed promising but just stopped talking.
I haven't seen anything new about Bella Baby. Last I checked on SA I couldn't find her. Of course, that may be because searching for a username doesn't seem to be possible. I keep looking for her on WYP but no luck there yet. Many girls post on both sites, but not her I guess. Getting cold out and need a warm body for some company. LOL.I've chatted with her and texted, but 400 is a lot plus the room, if you need info hmu. She looks great if she added greek I would pull the trigger.
Anyone hooked up with Ashley and Stephanie? They claim to be roommates, and apparently want to share a Daddy. Haven't decided whether to pull the trigger because it seems TGTBT. They want a M&G before discussing any details. I'm concerned they are just looking for a free meal.
Norm!
I've chatted with her and texted, but 400 is a lot plus the room, if you need info hmu. She looks great if she added greek I would pull the trigger.She will take half that. Tony you know how to reach me.
Miabia1 from WYP. Don't waste your time. She is terrible company and just not nice.
Had a great time with Brianna and she's very friendly and non rush.
Had a great time with Brianna and she's very friendly and non rush.I've seen her twice took her to notel both times, she's ok, I'd repeat but hygiene (breath) is a bit off, and her tits are small and slightly deflated, told me her man is a guest of the county for 18 months. Not too bad pretty open except backdoor.
Does anyone have info on this gal from WFP.
I've seen her twice took her to notel both times, she's ok, I'd repeat but hygiene (breath) is a bit off, and her tits are small and slightly deflated, told me her man is a guest of the county for 18 months. Not too bad pretty open except backdoor.Unfortunately I had a very different meeting with Brianna (She's Brianna1416 on SA). Went to the notel, started out fine, enthusiastic, kept getting phone calls. She asked if she could take the call really quick so she could get her other BD to leave her alone. It turned into a 20 minute shouting match over the phone. Finally I'd had enough and indicated that I was ready to go. I gave her half the agreed amount and we went our separate ways. Luck of the draw I guess!
Funny Money
11-15-15, 18:55
Unfortunately I had a very different meeting with Brianna (She's Brianna1416 on SA). Went to the notel, started out fine, enthusiastic, kept getting phone calls. She asked if she could take the call really quick so she could get her other BD to leave her alone. It turned into a 20 minute shouting match over the phone. Finally I'd had enough and indicated that I was ready to go. I gave her half the agreed amount and we went our separate ways. Luck of the draw I guess!She doesn't host? She told me she would host at her place.
Traveling John #2
11-15-15, 21:51
Anyone know this girl from glen Burnie? Met her a few times and was fun to meet on short notice except her phone went to some dude that does not seem interested in meeting. LOL Would love to know if anyone has an updated number for her.
Wolverineman
11-16-15, 08:29
I have been texting Spoil Me9876 on SA (Rachel) and am trying to set up an appointment. Has anyone had any experience with her? Also so Tay Pretty Eyes from SA. Very sweet, accommodating and she can host. A definite recommend.
BuffBill75
11-16-15, 09:14
Don't waste your time fellas. Pics are hot but she wants you to take her to dinner for $200. I mentioned other activities and she gave me a lecture via email. What exactly do these women think these sites are for anyway?
BuffBill75
11-16-15, 09:15
Quoted me $400. Way too much. But. She looks good. Any experiences?
She doesn't host? She told me she would host at her place.She hosts during the day. In the evening her dad is home, she offered to sneak me in because he was sleeping, but there's no way I was going to chance that so I paid for the notel LOL.
Funny Money
11-16-15, 10:44
Quoted me $400. Way too much. But. She looks good. Any experiences?She quoted me 300. And overnight for 500.
I have been texting Spoil Me9876 on SA (Rachel) and am trying to set up an appointment. Has anyone had any experience with her? Also so Tay Pretty Eyes from SA. Very sweet, accommodating and she can host. A definite recommend.She is fun to play with, but she is an addict. Keep it wrapped and don't overpay. Says she hates to swallow but will if asked. IMHO. Slightly above a street walker.
Traveling John #2
11-16-15, 21:00
Don't waste your time fellas. Pics are hot but she wants you to take her to dinner for $200. I mentioned other activities and she gave me a lecture via email. What exactly do these women think these sites are for anyway?One chick, substantial listed but responded quickly and was open to meet for coffee. While I am driving her home after dinner she takes a call and says she will meet him for 80. Well as we get close to house ask if she is ok with car fun. Into the back and away we go, no price mentioned. Profile is now gone, but moral of story, price list is just a mark.
Karlkitten needed to pay rent so was demanding meet up fee. I get there and I think a dude was just leaving. I know someone picked her up as soon as I left and with the time slots she offered to meet she seemed busy. When I told her I would not give a high price to meet but would go higher if we closed the deal, I get the I'm not a prostitue and I would never do that.
Kittenpout text with let's meet, I need money. Well when I asked about the dude texting get I was fucking with you. She wants 4 or 5 times standard SW rate for car fun. Thought maybe she would come down but get, I have morals and it ain't worth that.
Wolverineman
11-16-15, 21:00
Thanks for the info Fahq. I think I will take a pass on her.
She is fun to play with, but she is an addict. Keep it wrapped and don't overpay. Says she hates to swallow but will if asked. IMHO. Slightly above a street walker.
She quoted me 300. And overnight for 500.That is exactly what she quoted me. For $$$ I can get a top notch traveling escort, but not an overnight for $$$$$.
Norm!
It is funny you guys are mentioning Tae Pretty Eyes. I contacted her when she first created a profile. She acted appalled at the possibility of intimacy. She seriously thought men were just going to line up to give her money.
Wolverineman
11-17-15, 18:39
It is funny you guys are mentioning Tae Pretty Eyes. I contacted her when she first created a profile. She acted appalled at the possibility of intimacy. She seriously thought men were just going to line up to give her money.She was really very sweet. A little talkative about her bills, etc. , but very accommodating. I will definitely see her again.
John you need to clear out your inbox. You are over your limit. Here is my experience with ginger. I met gingers7 over the summer for a nice lunch. I did insist that I was not going to pay $$ just to meet her, but did buy her a nice lunch. We had a nice conversation, and I do not me any thing physical happened. She is a nice person and is looking for long term support with one person. And it was clear that nothing was going to happen until we had been going out for awhile. So, I decided she was too much effort and never called her back after the first meeting. Just so you know.She just wrote me and tried to pull the same BS. I wrote back to say I don't pay for a M&G. We will see what she says. I think she has probably gotten a number of guys this way for a meal and some cash. Interestingly, she wrote me first.
Norm!
She just wrote me and tried to pull the same BS. I wrote back to say I don't pay for a M&G. We will see what she says. I think she has probably gotten a number of guys this way for a meal and some cash. Interestingly, she wrote me first.
Norm!And that fast she wrote me back and says she does not meet without getting paid. I called her a liar (politely) and blocked her. LOL.
Norm!
I got this message in my inbox today (from Brianna 1618) like to hear what everyone has to say: Wow you guys talk so much about girls like there scum. Hhhmmm if there were these so called problems wouldn't it be better to say something than post trash about them?
Member #4966
11-19-15, 16:36
Okay. When I first stumbled on this thread, ole Roscoe said "tater we got to check this out," so I did.
Yes, there are tons of YOUNG very pretty girls that will respond, and it's clear you can score (at least they act that way). So I talked to some smoking hot girl and she quoted 1000 dollars to meet. If I was rich I might have done it. Another quoted 500. And they were both really hot and really young. In fact, one of the girls used her Facebook photo so I found out her real identity in minutes! I told her about it and warned her she shouldn't do that. She had never heard of search by image LOL. She was too expensive anyways.
There's also a ton of milfs and single moms who although I'd f'them they ain't nobody's sugar baby.
And then there's the standard class of 1 step above blockette ho's, only they want 250+.
Well, I finally pulled the trigger and decided to meet a girl that was 23 or so. I'm not stating her name unless private. Well via text she's quite explicit, not nasty but as in establishing fact explicit. My big head is screaming no but roscoe is reminding me how hot she is. A few other things transpire and I know it's either a setup or a sting. It could be she was naive. But I was like hell no and blocked her. But here's the thing, she tried calling and texting from three different phones in a span of 5 minutes. I then get a text telling me how unprofessional and bad business's it was as "we" were almost there. She used "we. " So. I resolved that was my first and last attempt at SA.
Oh, that Dundalk chick, the one with the sick mom and is getting evicted LOL. Wanted 500 dollars! WTF?
So my take-away is if you are single and wish to expend effort, you could probably score with really pretty coeds. But you are going to pay, a lot. I mean if I was single, I could see shelling out 500 to go to dinner and most likely have sex. Hell thatd the cost these days anyways. Otherwise you are just overpaying for what you could find on backpage. Also, you are putting yourself at great risk, as texts are written legal communication.
My 2 cents. Maybe I'm wrong.
Okay. When I first stumbled on this thread, ole Roscoe said "tater we got to check this out," so I did.
Yes, there are tons of YOUNG very pretty girls that will respond, and it's clear you can score (at least they act that way). So I talked to some smoking hot girl and she quoted 1000 dollars to meet. If I was rich I might have done it. Another quoted 500. And they were both really hot and really young. In fact, one of the girls used her Facebook photo so I found out her real identity in minutes! I told her about it and warned her she shouldn't do that. She had never heard of search by image LOL. She was too expensive anyways.
There's also a ton of milfs and single moms who although I'd f'them they ain't nobody's sugar baby.
And then there's the standard class of 1 step above blockette ho's, only they want 250+.
Well, I finally pulled the trigger and decided to meet a girl that was 23 or so. I'm not stating her name unless private. Well via text she's quite explicit, not nasty but as in establishing fact explicit. My big head is screaming no but roscoe is reminding me how hot she is. A few other things transpire and I know it's either a setup or a sting. It could be she was naive. But I was like hell no and blocked her. But here's the thing, she tried calling and texting from three different phones in a span of 5 minutes. I then get a text telling me how unprofessional and bad business's it was as "we" were almost there. She used "we. " So. I resolved that was my first and last attempt at SA.
Oh, that Dundalk chick, the one with the sick mom and is getting evicted LOL. Wanted 500 dollars! WTF?
So my take-away is if you are single and wish to expend effort, you could probably score with really pretty coeds. But you are going to pay, a lot. I mean if I was single, I could see shelling out 500 to go to dinner and most likely have sex. Hell thatd the cost these days anyways. Otherwise you are just overpaying for what you could find on backpage. Also, you are putting yourself at great risk, as texts are written legal communication.
My 2 cents. Maybe I'm wrong.Finding them on Fb is one way I verify they are legit. I don't warn them. Why would you? I never out them. But if I see she is on FB, I know that she is not LE, and it gives me leverage in the event she tries to leverage me. So I would definitely not agree with how you handled it. Also, if their page is open, you can see what they are really about, if they have a boyfriend, or are a stripper, etc. Its useful info. Plus the girls talk. Tell one, and you are telling 100. It deprives us of valuable information.
Norm!
Johnfamous
11-19-15, 20:08
Anyone had any experience with either cocobabygf or barbarella5 on SA. Barbarella5 wants $175 to drive to Baltimore from Annapolis for coffee. Her phone is also a home remodeling business. Strange. Cocobabygf wants. 3 or. 5 depending on how long but guarantees no drama. There are a lot trolls and scams on SA today.
I got this message in my inbox today (from Brianna 1618) like to hear what everyone has to say: Wow you guys talk so much about girls like there scum. Hhhmmm if there were these so called problems wouldn't it be better to say something than post trash about them?Do you use the same screen name here as other places? The sn I use here is used only here. My sn's on wyp and sa ate different that each other as in not even remotely similar, and are only used for those respective sites. A Google search will sometimes pull up your posts from forums if they are popular enough. Just food for thought.
Now that I think of it, the emails I use for those two are unique and only used for those sites.
Winterbaby1221.
Hey.
Anyone have info on winterbaby1221.
Really a little hot thing.
Member #4966
11-19-15, 22:12
Okay, maybe as a newb I was assuming based on looks and age she was a naive little girl. Maybe I'm naive. In general I play by fight club rules, but I guess the old softy in me got the better of me. Point well taken. But the fatherly instinct got the better of me. I must be getting old. I suppose in their own way these girls are probably as cognizant of what they are doing as Wilkens chicks. Err wait a minute, cognizant Wilkens chicks?
Finding them on Fb is one way I verify they are legit. I don't warn them. Why would you? I never out them. But if I see she is on FB, I know that she is not LE, and it gives me leverage in the event she tries to leverage me. So I would definitely not agree with how you handled it. Also, if their page is open, you can see what they are really about, if they have a boyfriend, or are a stripper, etc. Its useful info. Plus the girls talk. Tell one, and you are telling 100. It deprives us of valuable information.
Norm!
Member #4966
11-19-15, 22:16
Yeah, see what I mean!! Wow, if I was single and had time to spend on those chicks.
Winterbaby1221.
Hey.
Anyone have info on winterbaby1221.
Really a little hot thing.
Anyone had any experience with either cocobabygf or barbarella5 on SA. Barbarella5 wants $175 to drive to Baltimore from Annapolis for coffee. Her phone is also a home remodeling business. Strange. Cocobabygf wants. 3 or. 5 depending on how long but guarantees no drama. There are a lot trolls and scams on SA today.I had a few dates with her about a year ago. At first, she seemed to be down with being a sugar baby, but wanted to take it slow. In other words, there is no way to get her to do anything other than go to dinners. She has a great looking body, but is looking for someone rich to take care of her forever. I gather she is a mail order bride from eastern europe and then dumped the poor schmuck after she got the green card. Total waste of time and effort for me. Maybe if you have enough cash, things might be different.
Stay safe.
Traveling John #2
11-20-15, 00:29
Anyone had any experience with either cocobabygf or barbarella5 on SA. Barbarella5 wants $175 to drive to Baltimore from Annapolis for coffee. Her phone is also a home remodeling business. Strange. Cocobabygf wants. 3 or. 5 depending on how long but guarantees no drama. There are a lot trolls and scams on SA today.I messaged with her for a few weeks and finally had the same day available and set something up. Right before meeting she feels me there is a meeting price as she is a model and does not meet for free. I explained that I won't expect sex if she doesn't want paid to meet for coffee. Bottom line she is making her money off meet and greets.
OneBigHoliday
11-20-15, 15:24
Hi guys. Long time lurker looking to see if anyone has info on this girl:
http://imgur.com/a/iYgpp
She had posted a message on reddit of all places and is based out of Charles Village. No charge for M&G and seems open to neg rates.
Hoping someone on here has some info.
Thanks. OBH.
Johnfamous
11-20-15, 17:42
I messaged with her for a few weeks and finally had the same day available and set something up. Right before meeting she feels me there is a meeting price as she is a model and does not meet for free. I explained that I won't expect sex if she doesn't want paid to meet for coffee. Bottom line she is making her money off meet and greets.Thanks John. She is being very aggressive about wanting to meet and get her $175 for coffee. You saved me a lot of bother.
Has anyone dealt with Audrina on SA? She's quoting $400 and am wondering if anyone has been successful in bringing that price down?
If you've met with her, how was it?
So yesterday I met with Britt1210 from wyp and she seemed cool we had chat before we met about what I was looking for a 3 some with my female partner and I wanted to meet her before we did the deed you know make sure she is real right and the convo was good we agree to meet the next day no extra pay no nothing just drinks and condoms. Next day comes I text to see if we are still on she said she needs gas money ok fine I'll give it to her when we meet at the hotel sadly she doesn't want the money in person she wants the money sent to her account I told her I'm not doing that she then said if I don't have the money for a threesome wait til I get paid and then goes on to tell me she req 400. Needless to say I did not meet her for the 3 some because I'm not sending money to someone's account and I'm not shelling out 400 for a threesome after you said not to bring anything but drinks and condoms. So tell me fellow brothers did I do the right thing or could I have done a better job some how.
Any ladies you folks recommend on WYP.
You Know Who79
11-21-15, 23:06
Has anyone dealt with Audrina on SA? She's quoting $400 and am wondering if anyone has been successful in bringing that price down?
If you've met with her, how was it?I have met with her. Great time and 300 was the negotiated price of admission. We spent a few hours together. She has an amazing rack and is very open minded.
My question is this has anyone had any real success on WYP? Because after looking at what some of you guys have stated you might as well go the escort because some of these females seem to be setting the bar mighty high.
My question is this has anyone had any real success on WYP? Because after looking at what some of you guys have stated you might as well go the escort because some of these females seem to be setting the bar mighty high.Agree. Have contacted many on WYP with little success or very high demands.
Johnfamous
11-22-15, 13:15
Anyone have a companionship experience with Cambria2222 on SA. We are getting close to setting up a visit at her place. She is either a newbie or very trusting or I'm to trusting. I'll report back in either case unless someone warns me off.
Johnfamous
11-22-15, 13:25
Agree. Have contacted many on WYP with little success or very high demands.My first WYP date out of the box was for real and ready but huge! The second was also for real but crazy and I ended up getting threatening emails from her "husband. " Neither of them are on there any more. Then I started the string of $100 dates over lunch where nothing happened and there was no follow through. And I realized there is a free lunch, but I'm the one paying for it. That was AudreyBaby99, vitalasyndie, Letshavefun1, brightmind8. And then there were the random requests to pay emergency bills and help them out. It will be awhile before I try again on WYP.
Thanks for the report man. This helps allot to figure out where to not go.
My first WYP date out of the box was for real and ready but huge! The second was also for real but crazy and I ended up getting threatening emails from her "husband. " Neither of them are on there any more. Then I started the string of $100 dates over lunch where nothing happened and there was no follow through. And I realized there is a free lunch, but I'm the one paying for it. That was AudreyBaby99, vitalasyndie, Letshavefun1, brightmind8. And then there were the random requests to pay emergency bills and help them out. It will be awhile before I try again on WYP.
Traveling John #2
11-22-15, 22:57
She asks for money to give to sitter or friend and then doesn't return. I had met her before and she asked for money to give someone, but actually came back to go to lunch. This time I knew something was up, but had made the drive and only gave a small amount so found it kinda funny.
Says her name is Cynthia and amberalert12 on SA. She supposedly had a sister at Hyatt that would give free room.
Winterbaby1221.
Hey.
Anyone have info on winterbaby1221.
Really a little hot thing.I have been trying to close the deal with her for about a month, I personally don't think she is ready yet. Feel free to hmu at
Didn't realize it was you looking for info on her, if you nail her first, put in a good word for me!!
Wolverineman
11-23-15, 17:26
I have seen a few on SA and had a positive experience. Here are pics of the ones that I have seen. Happy to give info to trusted seniors (I am getting there) and HitorMiss. All of these girls were fun and all were under 300. Happy hunting out there.
UpToNoGood05
11-23-15, 21:29
The first girl I actually met from WYP. 23 years old, lives in Germantown with a roommate, has her own car, commutes to college in DC, fills the rest of her time working as a "promotional model" and Capitol Hill intern. Very beautiful girl, much better than her photos. She's also just a very nice person, not out to take your money, and will accept a $49 date.
Problem is she has a boyfriend, and is really just looking for a platonic sugar daddy to pay her rent and meet strictly as an "activity partner". You can try, but I don't think you'll get intimate with this girl.
UpToNoGood05
11-23-15, 21:39
Any ladies you folks recommend on WYP.AAmberHasArrived will come to your place for sex for 300.
Germanbeauty203 is sexy and very open. I've been texting her but haven't met yet.
Passionmarkss is even cheaper than AAmberHasArrived: 200. But she has no car so you will have to pick her up and find accommodations.
MsNicki is also hot to trot.
Have fun!
UpToNoGood05
11-23-15, 22:52
Okay. When I first stumbled on this thread, ole Roscoe said "tater we got to check this out," so I did.
Yes, there are tons of YOUNG very pretty girls that will respond, and it's clear you can score (at least they act that way). So I talked to some smoking hot girl and she quoted 1000 dollars to meet. If I was rich I might have done it. Another quoted 500. And they were both really hot and really young. In fact, one of the girls used her Facebook photo so I found out her real identity in minutes! I told her about it and warned her she shouldn't do that. She had never heard of search by image LOL. She was too expensive anyways.
There's also a ton of milfs and single moms who although I'd f'them they ain't nobody's sugar baby.
And then there's the standard class of 1 step above blockette ho's, only they want 250+.
Well, I finally pulled the trigger and decided to meet a girl that was 23 or so. I'm not stating her name unless private. Well via text she's quite explicit, not nasty but as in establishing fact explicit. My big head is screaming no but roscoe is reminding me how hot she is. A few other things transpire and I know it's either a setup or a sting. It could be she was naive. But I was like hell no and blocked her. But here's the thing, she tried calling and texting from three different phones in a span of 5 minutes. I then get a text telling me how unprofessional and bad business's it was as "we" were almost there. She used "we. " So. I resolved that was my first and last attempt at SA.
Oh, that Dundalk chick, the one with the sick mom and is getting evicted LOL. Wanted 500 dollars! WTF?
So my take-away is if you are single and wish to expend effort, you could probably score with really pretty coeds. But you are going to pay, a lot. I mean if I was single, I could see shelling out 500 to go to dinner and most likely have sex. Hell thatd the cost these days anyways. Otherwise you are just overpaying for what you could find on backpage. Also, you are putting yourself at great risk, as texts are written legal communication.
My 2 cents. Maybe I'm wrong.You can have the Dundalk chick (Bella) for 300. I spent 2 hours with her recently in a motel on rt 40. But yeah, then you have to endure her texts for days begging for more money.
You Know Who79
11-24-15, 08:20
I have seen a few on SA and had a positive experience. Here are pics of the ones that I have seen. Happy to give info to trusted seniors (I am getting there) and HitorMiss. All of these girls were fun and all were under 300. Happy hunting out there.I have seen bella. She went as low as 100 for full service but who us the girl on the bottom pic. I don't think I gave seen her on SA before.
Hello Team,
I have been very busy and having great difficult logging in lately, so I am well behind on my reports. With that said has anyone had contact or information on this tasty treat? With the amount of ink, I think she may be a dancer or utr. Just doing my due diligence before I close the deal. Thanks much and keep fishing!
I had the pleasure of meeting Aubrey the other day, she was having her monthly visitor. So she did an amazing bbj and greek. The damage was 3 bills, but smoking hot and looking forward to hitting all of it later this week. If you come across her jump on it, she can be found on Arrangement Finders, she seems to like a low profile or possibly utr. Not sure yet.
Funny Money
11-25-15, 19:20
Hello Team,
I have been very busy and having great difficult logging in lately, so I am well behind on my reports. With that said has anyone had contact or information on this tasty treat? With the amount of ink, I think she may be a dancer or utr. Just doing my due diligence before I close the deal. Thanks much and keep fishing!Nope. I contacted her wanting to meet, but no reply yet. Please do report back haha.
You Know Who79
11-25-15, 21:48
Hello Team,
I have been very busy and having great difficult logging in lately, so I am well behind on my reports. With that said has anyone had contact or information on this tasty treat? With the amount of ink, I think she may be a dancer or utr. Just doing my due diligence before I close the deal. Thanks much and keep fishing!I met Her through SA. Bbjcims and full service. A great time and fun girl to talk to. Worth every penny.
UpToNoGood05
11-26-15, 07:29
I met Her through SA. Bbjcims and full service. A great time and fun girl to talk to. Worth every penny.Do you have her username you could share?
UpToNoGood05
11-26-15, 07:34
I met Her through SA. Bbjcims and full service. A great time and fun girl to talk to. Worth every penny.Sorry, my bad. Should have done my due diligence first! That's Katie smith22.
I have seen a few on SA and had a positive experience. Here are pics of the ones that I have seen. Happy to give info to trusted seniors (I am getting there) and HitorMiss. All of these girls were fun and all were under 300. Happy hunting out there.The girl in the bottom left also replied to my ad on CL. Her name is Sara I had a fun time with her.
You Know Who79
11-26-15, 21:44
The girl in the bottom left also replied to my ad on CL. Her name is Sara I had a fun time with her.I would love to see her. Any chance we can swap info? Pm me.
Has anyone seen Queen Ellen on Arrangement Finders? Want to verify before meeting her.
Hello Team,
I have been very busy and having great difficult logging in lately, so I am well behind on my reports. With that said has anyone had contact or information on this tasty treat? With the amount of ink, I think she may be a dancer or utr. Just doing my due diligence before I close the deal. Thanks much and keep fishing!She is neither a dancer nor a UTR. She is an all out pro, with a web presence and reviews on ThEotheR site. Allegedly has a Jamaican boyfriend / pimp per one poster.
That aside, all the reviews are pretty positive.
Please do not pm me for her info, she is everywhere on all the escort sites.
Norm!
I have seen a few on SA and had a positive experience. Here are pics of the ones that I have seen. Happy to give info to trusted seniors (I am getting there) and HitorMiss. All of these girls were fun and all were under 300. Happy hunting out there.Does anyone know how I can contact the first one.
I had the pleasure of meeting Aubrey the other day, she was having her monthly visitor. So she did an amazing bbj and greek. The damage was 3 bills, but smoking hot and looking forward to hitting all of it later this week. If you come across her jump on it, she can be found on Arrangement Finders, she seems to like a low profile or possibly utr. Not sure yet.AF is a mess. Any better hint on what to search there to find her? Nothing under the keyword "Aubrey".
Norm!
AF is a mess. Any better hint on what to search there to find her? Nothing under the keyword "Aubrey".
Norm!Searh under hispanic, 20-24 and change the height to 5'5-5'10.
Met with this girl brianna126, had fun with her. She's very nice very open had good conversation with. She's definitely into the action as we got more private nice bidy. For having kids. I recommend her. Met her off of wyp. Definitely going to see her again.
I met with brianna126 cute girl nice body very nice had good conversation. As we got more private she definitely isn't shy very into the action definitely doesn't look like she's had kid. She has everything pierced. I recommend her. Met her from wyp. I will see her again.
Searh under hispanic, 20-24 and change the height to 5'5-5'10.Not sure if the same one but will be seeing a super hot Aubrey today that I found on AF.
So I have had a couple of nibbles from potential sugar babies, but I realized I have nowhere to take them. If anyone can recommend a reasonably priced place (but not Tim's or any of the dumps on Pulaski highway) in the Baltimore area, I would greatly appreciate it. If you discovered an inexpensive gem on Hotwire or some such, that would be great too.
Norm!
So I have had a couple of nibbles from potential sugar babies, but I realized I have nowhere to take them. If anyone can recommend a reasonably priced place (but not Tim's or any of the dumps on Pulaski highway) in the Baltimore area, I would greatly appreciate it. If you discovered an inexpensive gem on Hotwire or some such, that would be great too.
Norm!Red Roof and Super 8 or Super 6 (one of the Supers) and nicer now. Both near BWI airport.
Fairly cheap around 60 ish. Also AAA discounts and they are on Priceline as well.
Johnfamous
11-30-15, 22:52
I have date tomorrow with cocobabygf from SA. I'll report back, but anyone know anything I should be aware of in advance?
Thanks,
John.
Holy moly dude. That is some fucking score right there. Good luck.
I have date tomorrow with cocobabygf from SA. I'll report back, but anyone know anything I should be aware of in advance?
Thanks,
John.
Red Roof and Super 8 or Super 6 (one of the Supers) and nicer now. Both near BWI airport.
Fairly cheap around 60 ish. Also AAA discounts and they are on Priceline as well.Thanks!
Norm!
Guys be careful with this one. Was texting for about two weeks and we had set-up an appointment to meet at an agreed donation and service.
Unfortunately she took the money up front and left me dry. I guess in this buisness we have to expect occassional losses.
Lesson learned don't pay upfront regardless of how they hot they are.
Member #4966
12-02-15, 13:39
Title says it all. Anybody got any information on her from SA? Her profile is Sehnsucht. Couldn't find any info on her from pictures nor her phone. Her number also doesn't raise any redflags. No not sharing her number!
Yeah, ole Roscoe couldn't leave well enough alone. Giving SA a couple weeks this time. LOL.
Title says it all. Anybody got any information on her from SA? Her profile is Sehnsucht. Couldn't find any info on her from pictures nor her phone. Her number also doesn't raise any redflags. No not sharing her number!
Yeah, ole Roscoe couldn't leave well enough alone. Giving SA a couple weeks this time. LOL.She has been reported on in this thread.
Norm!
Holy moly dude. That is some fucking score right there. Good luck.Anyone with $$$ can meet her. She is basically a pro, not a sugarbaby. I wrote her and got an offer right away.
Norm!
Member #4966
12-02-15, 20:54
Why thank you, that was the most polite RTFF, I've ever read here. Oh yeah, a little thing called "search. " ;.
She has been reported on in this thread.
Norm!
Member #4966
12-02-15, 21:21
Hmm. Not much info in the two posts I found.
She has been reported on in this thread.
Norm!
Member #5578
12-02-15, 21:27
Hmm. Not much info in the two posts I found.Everything normal is on the menu. All points of entry. She is into BDSM. Nice women, smart. $$$ for a meet up. That's really it.
Traveling John #2
12-03-15, 02:10
Did someone have a little too much fun with Tay this week? She texted me all weekend and when I drive out to see her she wants to one and done me saying how sore she was. She is still one of the few girls that can host and is very accommodating with meeting up.
I have been chatting with these two young ladies separately Kay will host in Columbia and Liz will go to a notel, anyone may first contact yet? Working on some new contacts in Florida, but don't want to piss off the hater. So if we speak off site hmu, if not thank sorry.
You Know Who79
12-03-15, 13:30
I have been chatting with these two young ladies separately Kay will host in Columbia and Liz will go to a notel, anyone may first contact yet? Working on some new contacts in Florida, but don't want to piss off the hater. So if we speak off site hmu, if not thank sorry.Liz isn't bad but she's kind of a waste of time and $$ for her attitude. Tell. Me how the other blonde is.
Jackbenimble17
12-03-15, 16:51
Been communicating with this one and thinking of taking the plunge but can't find anything on her. Any help gents would be appreciated and can provide others UTR as well.
FightClubRules
12-04-15, 01:12
Thanks to whoever Sent Ms pretty eyes the post from the site, was able to find this awesome wealth of info. I have been playing in the bowl dark and look forward to using what you all post. Don't be surprised if you have met her and get an angry text.
Thanks to whoever Sent Ms pretty eyes the post from the site, was able to find this awesome wealth of info. I have been playing in the bowl dark and look forward to using what you all post. Don't be surprised if you have met her and get an angry text.Seriously? I haven't had time to drive up their and nail her yet. Very sad.
What site would you recommend. With the pricing on these sites, I am trying to only go for one of them. Would you guys mind giving some recommendations on which one is best.
Member #4966
12-05-15, 10:37
My vote is SA. Once you get hang of it, it's the bomb. No experience with the other places. So, my experience was mixed at first, but now. Woah. No. Wooooaaaahhhhh.
Only limit is the money. Don't get suckered in by the hot chicks wanting money to do not a damn thing.
What site would you recommend. With the pricing on these sites, I am trying to only go for one of them. Would you guys mind giving some recommendations on which one is best.
Member #4966
12-05-15, 10:39
Wow is all I can say. She's a very very hot woman. Highly recommended.
Everything normal is on the menu. All points of entry. She is into BDSM. Nice women, smart. $$$ for a meet up. That's really it.
Everything normal is on the menu. All points of entry. She is into BDSM. Nice women, smart. $$$ for a meet up. That's really it.I can cosign on this. Really cool, smart, very open minded and lots of fun. Just really comfortable to be around. She's willing to host once she becomes comfortable with you, lives in a nice area in the city.
SpiceOfLife
12-05-15, 17:26
What site would you recommend. With the pricing on these sites, I am trying to only go for one of them. Would you guys mind giving some recommendations on which one is best.SA worked great for me. I just started using WYP in the last week and have already met a new friend. Figured it was just going to be a M&G but it went to the next level immediately, and have another sweetie scheduled so that has been good for me so far. I like that you don't have to commit so much money up front as you do on SA. If you're lucky and hit it off with a few right off the bat, then WYP is much cheaper than SA. I know that when I was on SA it seemed like I was carrying on 10 or 15 conversations at once, many of them not really going anywhere, but since you're not paying per conversation it doesn't matter. On WYP I don't talk to many girls but I do like that the money issue gets out of the way immediately, saving possible awkwardness.
After seeing Bella Baby's pics here and after someone here kindly gave me her number, I went ahead anyway and sent her a wink on WYP. She responded with an offer of 200. I countered with 100 and she accepted. I didn't have enough in my account to send her a message, so I decided to send her a happy thanksgiving text using her number which I already had on the Wednesday before thanksgiving. She texted back and we proceeded to text back and forth about getting together. She decided Thanksgiving night would be good so I told her I'd text her later that night after I got home. I texted at 11 PM but got no response. She texted me Friday and said she had fallen asleep and could we meet. I asked her how her thanksgiving went and she said kinda rough. I then made the mistake of asking why rough. She says her mother has cancer and they are being evicted that day unless she can come up with 650. She asked if I could help her some and I said sure. She asked how much. I said I was figuring on 100 since that is the offer she had accepted, and I told her I was a little short on play money since I was getting a new roof (true BTW). That is the last I heard from her. Not "can you do more?" or "that's not enough". Nothing. I guess the landlord came and took her phone while she was being evicted LOL. Guess I'll have to find another massage partner. Oh well, glad I didn't arrange a 100 dollar dinner date and get the upsell.
SA worked great for me. I just started using WYP in the last week and have already met a new friend. Figured it was just going to be a M&G but it went to the next level immediately, and have another sweetie scheduled so that has been good for me so far. I like that you don't have to commit so much money up front as you do on SA. If you're lucky and hit it off with a few right off the bat, then WYP is much cheaper than SA. I know that when I was on SA it seemed like I was carrying on 10 or 15 conversations at once, many of them not really going anywhere, but since you're not paying per conversation it doesn't matter. On WYP I don't talk to many girls but I do like that the money issue gets out of the way immediately, saving possible awkwardness.My fear of WYP is that you agree to the fee, and get nothing in return on the date.
Norm!
Traveling John #2
12-06-15, 21:20
Anyone have any experience with this girl out of DC area? I hope to meet her soon.
Johnfamous
12-07-15, 00:10
Sorry to bother you gents again. I'm currently in correspondence with Sunny, Jaz12 and Michelle on SA. Does anyone have any thoughts or experience?
Was suppost to meet up with this one Saturday night, texted for a little bit a few days prior, we agreed on a price and where to meet,(her hotel says she's living there temporarily) when I asked her to call me she vanished, no text no call oh well on to the next one if anyone does or has hooked up with her let me know.
Please forgive my ignorance guys but what does SA stand for?
Wolverineman
12-07-15, 12:13
I have been a member of SA for a while and had some success on there. I have done a few reports on the girls I have seen. I am curious about WYP. I haven't tried it and was hoping to get a little information from those with experience. Do the girls really expect you to take them on a date first? How often does getting right down to it initially happen or is it really only after the second time or beyond? Just curious as to the experience and what happens. Thanks in advance for any info. Wolverineman. Go Blue!
Does anyone have a hot and young AA to recommend on WYP or any other site.
PM me.
Was suppost to meet up with this one Saturday night, texted for a little bit a few days prior, we agreed on a price and where to meet,(her hotel says she's living there temporarily) when I asked her to call me she vanished, no text no call oh well on to the next one if anyone does or has hooked up with her let me know.Check the streetwalker thread, plenty of info. About her there.
SpiceOfLife
12-07-15, 18:52
I have been a member of SA for a while and had some success on there. I have done a few reports on the girls I have seen. I am curious about WYP. I haven't tried it and was hoping to get a little information from those with experience. Do the girls really expect you to take them on a date first? How often does getting right down to it initially happen or is it really only after the second time or beyond? Just curious as to the experience and what happens. Thanks in advance for any info. Wolverineman. Go Blue!About half of my SA M&G's didn't go directly to the FC. So far, I'm 1 for 1 on WYP as far as going immediately to the good stuff.
Please forgive my ignorance guys but what does SA stand for?Seekingarrangements.com
For me I prefer SA as a trip to the FC is pretty much given but I have had some success on WYP.
I cover a M&G dinner and then when the topic of $ comes up I simply say "of course, but that includes a trip to the capital FC". If is cool then what follows is "LET'S GO!" if not then I know I've already got an issue of GPS on my hands.
It seems these gals want the date experience first before the dessert. Not a problem if you have the time. Typically worth it IMO.
Johnfamous
12-09-15, 01:41
Sorry to bother you gents again. I'm currently in correspondence with Sunny, Jaz12 and Michelle on SA. Does anyone have any thoughts or experience?Comrades, Sunny lives up in Edgewood. She does not drive and claims to have just returned from six years living in France. She seems very intelligent. She was going to uber to a nice restaurant down near Towson to meet, and wanted me to pay for travel and lunch. When I told her I would but it would be to just get acquainted to see if we clicked, she wrote back immediately to tell me I was't what she was looking for.
Cambria2222 and I had been working on a meeting at her apartment by Morgan State where she would host. . 300 for an afternoon. Not sure what was on the table. When she mailed me the address and apt. I googled it and found that a resident had five hand gun violations at that address. And outstanding court cases as a result. I told her that was a real red flag for me to meet her at her place, but I would meet her in public. She responded that was unfair of me to search her address on google and md case search. It was her son who didn't live there, and he was a good man. I told her it was the guns that bothered me. I don't like to be around guns. I would be happy to meet her anywhere in public first. She stopped writing, which makes me think it might have been the son with a gun I was writing to who wanted the 300. That would be quiet a scam. Get guys from SA over to an apartment, show your gun, and take their money, expecting they weren't about to complain because of what they were there for.
Allfunnogames lives in North East. She wants 350 the first time and 300 there after. Her pics look amazing. We are talking about meeting Friday, but that is an hour drive both ways for me. She has a young daughter who gets home at 4.
No word on Jaz12 or Michelle.
Stay careful out there.
John Famous.
Kudos to you for using the internet to its full potential. I was not even aware such options do exist. Perhaps it might be a good idea to to dedicate a thread to discuss the public domain information that mongers could use to keep themselves safe. You perhaps saved yourself trouble with some intelligent sleuthing!
When she mailed me the address and apt. I googled it and found that a resident had five hand gun violations at that address. And outstanding court cases as a result. I told her that was a real red flag for me to meet her at her place, but I would meet her in public. She responded that was unfair of me to search her address on google and md case search. John Famous.
Johnfamous
12-09-15, 02:25
Kudos to you for using the internet to its full potential. I was not even aware such options do exist. Perhaps it might be a good idea to to dedicate a thread to discuss the public domain information that mongers could use to keep themselves safe. You perhaps saved yourself trouble with some intelligent sleuthing!Thanks for the kinds words about my research. On Backpage, I usually expect apartments and motels to be places of business, but on SA I usually suggest a meeting in public first because that seems like what a girl who wants to be safe would do. When they tell me they can host and ask me to bring the cash with me I run the address through google, get a name or names and look them up on Maryland Case Search. Gov. MDCASEsearch. Gov lists all criminal and civil cases that have been in the courts. That address had five different hand gun violations in the last six weeks and two trials pending in Baltimore City District Court. Cambria went into a long story about her son defending his son over some dispute at her apartment. Since, I don't want to live in a community that requires a constant appeal to the Second Amendment, I called the private meeting off. She did not respond at all to the idea of a public meeting instead. Perhaps I was actually talking to the son who was setting me up. I'd rather not find out.
SpiceOfLife
12-09-15, 09:46
Comrades, Sunny lives up in Edgewood. She does not drive and claims to have just returned from six years living in France. She seems very intelligent. She was going to uber to a nice restaurant down near Towson to meet, and wanted me to pay for travel and lunch. When I told her I would but it would be to just get acquainted to see if we clicked, she wrote back immediately to tell me I was't what she was looking for.
Cambria2222 and I had been working on a meeting at her apartment by Morgan State where she would host. . 300 for an afternoon. Not sure what was on the table. When she mailed me the address and apt. I googled it and found that a resident had five hand gun violations at that address. And outstanding court cases as a result. I told her that was a real red flag for me to meet her at her place, but I would meet her in public. She responded that was unfair of me to search her address on google and md case search. It was her son who didn't live there, and he was a good man. I told her it was the guns that bothered me. I don't like to be around guns. I would be happy to meet her anywhere in public first. She stopped writing, which makes me think it might have been the son with a gun I was writing to who wanted the 300. That would be quiet a scam. Get guys from SA over to an apartment, show your gun, and take their money, expecting they weren't about to complain because of what they were there for.
Allfunnogames lives in North East. She wants 350 the first time and 300 there after. Her pics look amazing. We are talking about meeting Friday, but that is an hour drive both ways for me. She has a young daughter who gets home at 4.
No word on Jaz12 or Michelle.
Stay careful out there.
John Famous.Those prices seem steep to me. I've offered as much as $250 but so far have never given more than $200 and have had no shortage of selection. I figure the guys who are willing to throw $300 plus at these prospects are few and far between. It's almost Christmas, Spring semester is coming up, and $200 is better than $0. 00. I was rejected by quite a few ladies at first, some of whom were looking for $500, but I've found that the true SB's who are actually looking for a mutually beneficial arrangement usually are more reasonable especially if they view you as a long term option. Every time I go into SA or WYP I still see some of the very women who wouldn't take $250 from me a year ago. If they were all that, a rich Daddy would have taken them off the market by now.
Thanks for the kinds words about my research. On Backpage, I usually expect apartments and motels to be places of business, but on SA I usually suggest a meeting in public first because that seems like what a girl who wants to be safe would do. When they tell me they can host and ask me to bring the cash with me I run the address through google, get a name or names and look them up on Maryland Case Search. Gov. MDCASEsearch. Gov lists all criminal and civil cases that have been in the courts. That address had five different hand gun violations in the last six weeks and two trials pending in Baltimore City District Court. Cambria went into a long story about her son defending his son over some dispute at her apartment. Since, I don't want to live in a community that requires a constant appeal to the Second Amendment, I called the private meeting off. She did not respond at all to the idea of a public meeting instead. Perhaps I was actually talking to the son who was setting me up. I'd rather not find out.Thats excellent research. I typically also search the number they provide in Facebook and often get useful information. Then search that name in Maryland Case Search. The internet is wonderful in keeping us safe. Seems like you really dodged a bullet (literally) in that one.
Member #4966
12-09-15, 14:29
Anybody been robbed or had attempted extortion? I am soooo glad for google's search by image. It'll save your ass. There are some scammers (on both sides) on SA.
Wolverineman
12-09-15, 14:47
Anybody been robbed or had attempted extortion? I am soooo glad for google's search by image. It'll save your ass. There are some scammers (on both sides) on SA.Thanks for the heads up. It would be great to know who they are if you know.
I wrote this in another forum. I bring it here for information only. I know many of you don't like to spend this level of money, to each their own, but for those of you who enjoy young UTR girls, here you go. As most of you know, Seeking Arrangement is a Sugar Daddy / Sugar Baby website. There are other sites of this kind, and I have no idea is one is better than another, but Seeking Arrangement is the one I happened to use, based on advice from a USASG forum.
If you read the site's self-description, you might imagine it's for billionaires who want a gorgeous young thing to take to the opera on their arm, then squire them home in their limo, kiss them chastely on the lips, and give them a few thousand dollars. There are many, many women on the site who believe this too. But there aren't many billionaires in this world and those that exist aren't looking for Jenny from Maryland on a website.
In fact, this is for women who want presents or cash in exchange for dates, usually dates with a sexual component. This is much, much more difficult than searching for a traditional escort. The payoff, however, can be huge.
Here's what you'll need if you want to play: First, $70 to sign up for a month on the site; for maximum safety use a prepaid credit card from the drugstore. Second, a budget for lunches, dinners, drinks. Third, a disposable phone or app with minutes, and a free email address. Finally, lots and lots of time.
When you sign up, you'll need a picture for your profile. Google Reverse Image Search is your friend here. Take a real picture of yourself, reverse search it for similar images, find someone who looks something like you, and use their image. Don't use your Facebook profile picture. Don't use a picture with other people you know in it.
You can make up whatever details you like, but my advice is to make your profile fit whatever believable, larger story you want to tell. If you put down that you're single, then you would be available nights, right? Unless, of course, you work nights or have some other reason to be busy. Give it some thought before you post your profile. You can't put a phone number or email address on your profile, and this is enforced. They also encourage you not to use your real name.
Then, messages will start to come in. The search function is easy and intuitive. Beware, however, that every time you look at a member's profile, they will be notified. If you "favorite" someone, they will be notified. When you read a message someone sends you, they can tell by a little icon on the messaging page. The default is that you can see when someone joined and when they were last active, although this can be turned off. In general, this is not like facebook with the ability to silently stalk anyone you like. Rather, your every move will be seen by the sugar babies, and they will come out of the woodwork if they see you looking at their profile.
Then the dance begins. My advice is to be respectful, and polite, but early on make clear you're looking for private time and intimacy. Those code words seem to work wonders. You will hear from some of the women, "private time is ok, but of course no sexual contact, this is just companionship. " If you seek conversation only, go right ahead. It's possible some of them are just saying that as a cover, but I think the majority of these women actually buy into the facade of the site, and no means no.
From other women, you will hear a middle ground: "I'd like to be comfortable with you in public before I spend time with you alone. " These might be worth pursuing, but beware. One woman wanted $500 to have what would clearly be only drinks and conversation with her. I declined, so she told me I was mistakenly looking for an escort on a Sugar Baby site and cut me off. OK.
Finally there is the easiest category, women who are comfortable with the suggestion of "private time. " One woman bluntly told me she didn't have a place we could go to be alone, but I would have to provide one. Pretty clear sign.
Still, it's not necessarily straightforward. One very sexy young woman made clear she understood the deal. We met for dinner, got along, but she needed to leave, so we agreed to meet again. She went so far as to message me with a price: $300 "per adventure" paid in advance. OK, I thought, the masks are off. On the appointed day she asked where we were meeting. I texted back the name of a hotel. She blew up. Apparently asking her to meet me at a hotel made her feel like a "common prostitute. " Um, you actually quoted me a price, lady. I gracefully exited, deciding she wasn't worth pursuing, even as she said it would all be ok, we just needed to meet somewhere "nice" first. The thing about these sites is, there are a LOT of fish in the sea, and you can always move on.
Here's the strategy I landed on. Meet a lady for a late lunch or dinner at a pleasant restaurant that happens to be inside, attached to, or near a hotel. Know in advance that the hotel has vacancies. If all goes well, linger, then say something like "I'm having such a good time, I wish I could keep spending time with you. What are your plans?" If she says she has none, try to seal the deal. "We could go have a drink, or maybe talk about going somewhere private. " That's a carefully worded sentence, and you have an out. You only said you want to talk about it. But if she's ok with it, then suggest "I could see if they have a room available. ".
My best success so far was before I moved to Maryland: a young, intelligent, extremely hot Asian woman in her twenties. After a nice lunch and a drink, she's agreeable to the idea of getting a room. I gave her a little money and sent her for more drinks, mostly so she doesn't hear my real name at the front desk. We went upstairs and talked more in the room over our drinks, building the anticipation. Finally we attacked one another. She tore my clothes off and sucked and fucked me like she meant it. Condom on my insistence not hers. A specific amount was not discussed in advance. We did it four times over three hours, and it was fun, relaxed, and so damn hot, the real deal with a smoking young amateur. I left $400 on her purse. She was thrilled and said she hopes I'll call again. I probably will. A three-hour multiples session with a smoking hot twentysomething? Yes, please. Saw her several times before she moved away.
In Maryland I have met: A cute bartender from a Fells Point place who was, no lie, the single worst lover I've ever had. Just a cold fish dud. A rugby player who was pretty good looking and fun in bed but is out of town back in college now. A stripper (pics are with lizards, you'll know her when you see her) who was OK in bed but with strict rules (no oral at all, even covered.) A liberal college filmaking student who was nice, and willing, but not very attractive naked. I met a few in person but didn't close the deal. Notably, a skinny Russian model from DC, had lunch but got a vibe that she's green card hunting and wouldn't allow fun without a high cost. She keeps messaging me. So, no super finds so far in this state. I've let my sub lapse, I may go back after the holidays.
A few other suggestions: Your membership is monthly and expensive, so collecting email addresses and phone numbers by private message is to your advantage. As your membership runs out, make sure to save the info on members you might want to pursue. Make that month count, put in the time, and you'll have one or two fantastic regulars. Keep your real name out of it. Use that disposable phone and free email address exclusively.
I find the women, for the most part, give up their real information easily. I can find the actual names, phone numbers, facebook pages, and more for most of the women that I met in person and many I only messaged with on the site. Don't make the same mistake, especially when so many of the women can be touchy about the nature of what the site is really all about. One of the women you're "courting" could turn on you, upset that you're "implying something," and suddenly you're in trouble if she knows your identity.
I make no promise using these sites will help you find "better" or "cheaper" than backpage or eros-guide or anything like that. In my experience you can find some women who are full-time pros, the same women from backpage, at roughly the same prices. You probably won't find too many $40 car-date girls if that's your thing, but you never know. It's the others, the amateurs who are morally ok with this but not quite at the pro level, that get me going. I think there's all sorts on Sugar Baby sites, from perfect women who expect to be paid to talk to you to barely-literate strippers. It's about the thrill of the chase, and the promise of a relationship that's slightly more interesting, usually with a woman who genuinely wants to please you, because it's in her own long-term interest. That makes each individual session better, because if you do it right, you're with a woman who wants to keep a good thing going, not a woman who's already collected your money and is watching the clock tick.
Hope this helps somebody on the board. I'm happy to exchange info on specific ladies if I have it, but they turn over so fast it may not be all that useful.
-W.
SpiceOfLife
12-09-15, 16:38
I have a budget and I stick to it. I might have a budget of $200 per date plus room, maybe more or maybe less, but after I assess the prospect I offer only what I can afford to pay her 4-6 times per month. If she scoffs at that, then she probably isn't for you. I would pay $400 for an experience like the previous poster had with that Asian honey, and I've paid that and more for high end escorts, but I'm looking for 1-2 times a week guaranteed at an affordable rate. For that I will give up seeing a variety of women (for the most part, anyway) and she will commit to seeing only me as well. I'm working on starting a monthly allowance with my current, which would give her a weekly budget she can depend on, but I can get it any time I want it with no additional expected, maybe 2-3 times a week or more. $1400 a month looks a lot better than $200. And I'm paying barely over $100 per date but I won't keep her out for 4 hours every date either. Some quickies, some more relaxed, and even overnighters are included although I would definitely include extra amenities in that case. My girl is up for it, but we haven't started it yet. Hopefully next week. We'll see how that works. I have another prospect lined up who will happily take that deal. And even though it's a monthly total, you never pay it up front. Offer it weekly after some get-to-know-you sessions, then bi-weekly if you're feeling confidant and can afford to lose a couple weeks' fun money without breaking the bank.
ShortMan22
12-09-15, 17:09
I wrote this in another forum. I bring it here for information only. I know many of you don't like to spend this level of money, to each their own, but for those of you who enjoy young UTR girls, here you go. As most of you know, Seeking Arrangement is a Sugar Daddy / Sugar Baby website. There are other sites of this kind, and I have no idea is one is better than another, but Seeking Arrangement is the one I happened to use, based on advice from a USASG forum.
If you read the site's self-description, you might imagine it's for billionaires who want a gorgeous young thing to take to the opera on their arm, then squire them home in their limo, kiss them chastely on the lips, and give them a few thousand dollars. There are many, many women on the site who believe this too. But there aren't many billionaires in this world and those that exist aren't looking for Jenny from Maryland on a website.
In fact, this is for women who want presents or cash in exchange for dates, usually dates with a sexual component. This is much, much more difficult than searching for a traditional escort. The payoff, however, can be huge.
Here's what you'll need if you want to play: First, $70 to sign up for a month on the site; for maximum safety use a prepaid credit card from the drugstore. Second, a budget for lunches, dinners, drinks. Third, a disposable phone or app with minutes, and a free email address. Finally, lots and lots of time.
When you sign up, you'll need a picture for your profile. Google Reverse Image Search is your friend here. Take a real picture of yourself, reverse search it for similar images, find someone who looks something like you, and use their image. Don't use your Facebook profile picture. Don't use a picture with other people you know in it.
You can make up whatever details you like, but my advice is to make your profile fit whatever believable, larger story you want to tell. If you put down that you're single, then you would be available nights, right? Unless, of course, you work nights or have some other reason to be busy. Give it some thought before you post your profile. You can't put a phone number or email address on your profile, and this is enforced. They also encourage you not to use your real name.
Then, messages will start to come in. The search function is easy and intuitive. Beware, however, that every time you look at a member's profile, they will be notified. If you "favorite" someone, they will be notified. When you read a message someone sends you, they can tell by a little icon on the messaging page. The default is that you can see when someone joined and when they were last active, although this can be turned off. In general, this is not like facebook with the ability to silently stalk anyone you like. Rather, your every move will be seen by the sugar babies, and they will come out of the woodwork if they see you looking at their profile.
Then the dance begins. My advice is to be respectful, and polite, but early on make clear you're looking for private time and intimacy. Those code words seem to work wonders. You will hear from some of the women, "private time is ok, but of course no sexual contact, this is just companionship. " If you seek conversation only, go right ahead. It's possible some of them are just saying that as a cover, but I think the majority of these women actually buy into the facade of the site, and no means no.
From other women, you will hear a middle ground: "I'd like to be comfortable with you in public before I spend time with you alone. " These might be worth pursuing, but beware. One woman wanted $500 to have what would clearly be only drinks and conversation with her. I declined, so she told me I was mistakenly looking for an escort on a Sugar Baby site and cut me off. OK.
Finally there is the easiest category, women who are comfortable with the suggestion of "private time. " One woman bluntly told me she didn't have a place we could go to be alone, but I would have to provide one. Pretty clear sign.
Still, it's not necessarily straightforward. One very sexy young woman made clear she understood the deal. We met for dinner, got along, but she needed to leave, so we agreed to meet again. She went so far as to message me with a price: $300 "per adventure" paid in advance. OK, I thought, the masks are off. On the appointed day she asked where we were meeting. I texted back the name of a hotel. She blew up. Apparently asking her to meet me at a hotel made her feel like a "common prostitute. " Um, you actually quoted me a price, lady. I gracefully exited, deciding she wasn't worth pursuing, even as she said it would all be ok, we just needed to meet somewhere "nice" first. The thing about these sites is, there are a LOT of fish in the sea, and you can always move on.
Here's the strategy I landed on. Meet a lady for a late lunch or dinner at a pleasant restaurant that happens to be inside, attached to, or near a hotel. Know in advance that the hotel has vacancies. If all goes well, linger, then say something like "I'm having such a good time, I wish I could keep spending time with you. What are your plans?" If she says she has none, try to seal the deal. "We could go have a drink, or maybe talk about going somewhere private. " That's a carefully worded sentence, and you have an out. You only said you want to talk about it. But if she's ok with it, then suggest "I could see if they have a room available. ".
My best success so far was before I moved to Maryland: a young, intelligent, extremely hot Asian woman in her twenties. After a nice lunch and a drink, she's agreeable to the idea of getting a room. I gave her a little money and sent her for more drinks, mostly so she doesn't hear my real name at the front desk. We went upstairs and talked more in the room over our drinks, building the anticipation. Finally we attacked one another. She tore my clothes off and sucked and fucked me like she meant it. Condom on my insistence not hers. A specific amount was not discussed in advance. We did it four times over three hours, and it was fun, relaxed, and so damn hot, the real deal with a smoking young amateur. I left $400 on her purse. She was thrilled and said she hopes I'll call again. I probably will. A three-hour multiples session with a smoking hot twentysomething? Yes, please. Saw her several times before she moved away.
In Maryland I have met: A cute bartender from a Fells Point place who was, no lie, the single worst lover I've ever had. Just a cold fish dud. A rugby player who was pretty good looking and fun in bed but is out of town back in college now. A stripper (pics are with lizards, you'll know her when you see her) who was OK in bed but with strict rules (no oral at all, even covered.) A liberal college filmaking student who was nice, and willing, but not very attractive naked. I met a few in person but didn't close the deal. Notably, a skinny Russian model from DC, had lunch but got a vibe that she's green card hunting and wouldn't allow fun without a high cost. She keeps messaging me. So, no super finds so far in this state. I've let my sub lapse, I may go back after the holidays.
A few other suggestions: Your membership is monthly and expensive, so collecting email addresses and phone numbers by private message is to your advantage. As your membership runs out, make sure to save the info on members you might want to pursue. Make that month count, put in the time, and you'll have one or two fantastic regulars. Keep your real name out of it. Use that disposable phone and free email address exclusively.
I find the women, for the most part, give up their real information easily. I can find the actual names, phone numbers, facebook pages, and more for most of the women that I met in person and many I only messaged with on the site. Don't make the same mistake, especially when so many of the women can be touchy about the nature of what the site is really all about. One of the women you're "courting" could turn on you, upset that you're "implying something," and suddenly you're in trouble if she knows your identity.
I make no promise using these sites will help you find "better" or "cheaper" than backpage or eros-guide or anything like that. In my experience you can find some women who are full-time pros, the same women from backpage, at roughly the same prices. You probably won't find too many $40 car-date girls if that's your thing, but you never know. It's the others, the amateurs who are morally ok with this but not quite at the pro level, that get me going. I think there's all sorts on Sugar Baby sites, from perfect women who expect to be paid to talk to you to barely-literate strippers. It's about the thrill of the chase, and the promise of a relationship that's slightly more interesting, usually with a woman who genuinely wants to please you, because it's in her own long-term interest. That makes each individual session better, because if you do it right, you're with a woman who wants to keep a good thing going, not a woman who's already collected your money and is watching the clock tick.
Hope this helps somebody on the board. I'm happy to exchange info on specific ladies if I have it, but they turn over so fast it may not be all that useful.
-W.-W.
This is excellent thsnks for sharing your knowledge.
John Famous,
I look forward to your updates on AllFunNoGames.
Her private pics are looking good.
Thank You.
Comrades, ...
Allfunnogames lives in North East. She wants 350 the first time and 300 there after. Her pics look amazing. We are talking about meeting Friday, but that is an hour drive both ways for me. She has a young daughter who gets home at 4.
Stay careful out there.
John Famous.
Very useful post. Thanks for sharing. Couple questions. What has been your average conversion rate from email contact to M&G to bed. Also, how much time does it take / need on a weekly basis for all the data mining on SA website and for back and forth communication with the SBs.
As most of you know, Seeking Arrangement is a Sugar Daddy / Sugar Baby website.
Here's what you'll need if you want to play: First, $70 to sign up for a month on the site; for maximum safety use a prepaid credit card from the drugstore. Second, a budget for lunches, dinners, drinks. Third, a disposable phone or app with minutes, and a free email address. Finally, lots and lots of time.
A few other suggestions: Your membership is monthly and expensive, so collecting email addresses and phone numbers by private message is to your advantage.
Hope this helps somebody on the board. I'm happy to exchange info on specific ladies if I have it, but they turn over so fast it may not be all that useful.
-W.
Traveling John #2
12-10-15, 07:37
It is a lot of work on SA and the average would be difficult to say. This week is a good example. Have been messaging with three girls for weeks that for some reason we can not get on the same schedule (probably keeping me on the hook until they run through the big spenders who don't want anything). I actually drove an hour twice to meet a girl who backed out twice this week at the last minute. The good news is two other girls were quick, three or four messages and met them the same day or next and closed the deal immediately.
I also never go over 200. I have found that being nice, meeting for simple quick meeting, and explaining that the lower rate always me to be more available to them. Sure I could pay the high rate, but if it was not the best experience ever, I would probably not see them again. Like mentioned before, most girls want to be treated nice and seek longer term arrangements. Even with the pros who are used to 400 or more this has worked.
Of course as mentioned on Richmond SB thread, if you are a "5" and trying to score "10's", you are going to probably go higher than 200.
Wolverineman
12-10-15, 09:40
Hi am scheduled to meet with Danielle from SA today. Wondering if anyone has seen her. Thanks in advance.
SpiceOfLife
12-10-15, 10:22
It is a lot of work on SA and the average would be difficult to say. This week is a good example. Have been messaging with three girls for weeks that for some reason we can not get on the same schedule (probably keeping me on the hook until they run through the big spenders who don't want anything). I actually drove an hour twice to meet a girl who backed out twice this week at the last minute. The good news is two other girls were quick, three or four messages and met them the same day or next and closed the deal immediately.
I also never go over 200. I have found that being nice, meeting for simple quick meeting, and explaining that the lower rate always me to be more available to them. Sure I could pay the high rate, but if it was not the best experience ever, I would probably not see them again. Like mentioned before, most girls want to be treated nice and seek longer term arrangements. Even with the pros who are used to 400 or more this has worked.
Of course as mentioned on Richmond SB thread, if you are a "5" and trying to score "10's", you are going to probably go higher than 200.I've had awesome multi-hour experiences with escorts that I've paid close to $1000 for, and while the romp was fun and memorable, in the end it's only kitty and I won't get 5 shots out of it no matter how much I try. That's 50 blowjobs on the loop (or more! I think that once you get a regular at a good rate then you have the time and leverage to negotiate lower and lower. If the tab is too high to afford it more than a few times a month then it isn't a good match for either of us. I also had a few flake on me from SA.
I wrote this in another forum. I bring it here for information only. I know many of you don't like to spend this level of money, to each their own, but for those of you who enjoy young UTR girls, here you go. As most of you know, Seeking Arrangement is a Sugar Daddy / Sugar Baby website. There are other sites of this kind, and I have no idea is one is better than another, but Seeking Arrangement is the one I happened to use, based on advice from a USASG forum.
If you read the site's self-description, you might imagine it's for billionaires who want a gorgeous young thing to take to the opera on their arm, then squire them home in their limo, kiss them chastely on the lips, and give them a few thousand dollars. There are many, many women on the site who believe this too. But there aren't many billionaires in this world and those that exist aren't looking for Jenny from Maryland on a website.
In fact, this is for women who want presents or cash in exchange for dates, usually dates with a sexual component. This is much, much more difficult than searching for a traditional escort. The payoff, however, can be huge.
Here's what you'll need if you want to play: First, $70 to sign up for a month on the site; for maximum safety use a prepaid credit card from the drugstore. Second, a budget for lunches, dinners, drinks. Third, a disposable phone or app with minutes, and a free email address. Finally, lots and lots of time.
When you sign up, you'll need a picture for your profile. Google Reverse Image Search is your friend here. Take a real picture of yourself, reverse search it for similar images, find someone who looks something like you, and use their image. Don't use your Facebook profile picture. Don't use a picture with other people you know in it.
You can make up whatever details you like, but my advice is to make your profile fit whatever believable, larger story you want to tell. If you put down that you're single, then you would be available nights, right? Unless, of course, you work nights or have some other reason to be busy. Give it some thought before you post your profile. You can't put a phone number or email address on your profile, and this is enforced. They also encourage you not to use your real name.
Then, messages will start to come in. The search function is easy and intuitive. Beware, however, that every time you look at a member's profile, they will be notified. If you "favorite" someone, they will be notified. When you read a message someone sends you, they can tell by a little icon on the messaging page. The default is that you can see when someone joined and when they were last active, although this can be turned off. In general, this is not like facebook with the ability to silently stalk anyone you like. Rather, your every move will be seen by the sugar babies, and they will come out of the woodwork if they see you looking at their profile.
Then the dance begins. My advice is to be respectful, and polite, but early on make clear you're looking for private time and intimacy. Those code words seem to work wonders. You will hear from some of the women, "private time is ok, but of course no sexual contact, this is just companionship. " If you seek conversation only, go right ahead. It's possible some of them are just saying that as a cover, but I think the majority of these women actually buy into the facade of the site, and no means no.
From other women, you will hear a middle ground: "I'd like to be comfortable with you in public before I spend time with you alone. " These might be worth pursuing, but beware. One woman wanted $500 to have what would clearly be only drinks and conversation with her. I declined, so she told me I was mistakenly looking for an escort on a Sugar Baby site and cut me off. OK.
Finally there is the easiest category, women who are comfortable with the suggestion of "private time. " One woman bluntly told me she didn't have a place we could go to be alone, but I would have to provide one. Pretty clear sign.
Still, it's not necessarily straightforward. One very sexy young woman made clear she understood the deal. We met for dinner, got along, but she needed to leave, so we agreed to meet again. She went so far as to message me with a price: $300 "per adventure" paid in advance. OK, I thought, the masks are off. On the appointed day she asked where we were meeting. I texted back the name of a hotel. She blew up. Apparently asking her to meet me at a hotel made her feel like a "common prostitute. " Um, you actually quoted me a price, lady. I gracefully exited, deciding she wasn't worth pursuing, even as she said it would all be ok, we just needed to meet somewhere "nice" first. The thing about these sites is, there are a LOT of fish in the sea, and you can always move on.
Here's the strategy I landed on. Meet a lady for a late lunch or dinner at a pleasant restaurant that happens to be inside, attached to, or near a hotel. Know in advance that the hotel has vacancies. If all goes well, linger, then say something like "I'm having such a good time, I wish I could keep spending time with you. What are your plans?" If she says she has none, try to seal the deal. "We could go have a drink, or maybe talk about going somewhere private. " That's a carefully worded sentence, and you have an out. You only said you want to talk about it. But if she's ok with it, then suggest "I could see if they have a room available. ".
My best success so far was before I moved to Maryland: a young, intelligent, extremely hot Asian woman in her twenties. After a nice lunch and a drink, she's agreeable to the idea of getting a room. I gave her a little money and sent her for more drinks, mostly so she doesn't hear my real name at the front desk. We went upstairs and talked more in the room over our drinks, building the anticipation. Finally we attacked one another. She tore my clothes off and sucked and fucked me like she meant it. Condom on my insistence not hers. A specific amount was not discussed in advance. We did it four times over three hours, and it was fun, relaxed, and so damn hot, the real deal with a smoking young amateur. I left $400 on her purse. She was thrilled and said she hopes I'll call again. I probably will. A three-hour multiples session with a smoking hot twentysomething? Yes, please. Saw her several times before she moved away.
In Maryland I have met: A cute bartender from a Fells Point place who was, no lie, the single worst lover I've ever had. Just a cold fish dud. A rugby player who was pretty good looking and fun in bed but is out of town back in college now. A stripper (pics are with lizards, you'll know her when you see her) who was OK in bed but with strict rules (no oral at all, even covered.) A liberal college filmaking student who was nice, and willing, but not very attractive naked. I met a few in person but didn't close the deal. Notably, a skinny Russian model from DC, had lunch but got a vibe that she's green card hunting and wouldn't allow fun without a high cost. She keeps messaging me. So, no super finds so far in this state. I've let my sub lapse, I may go back after the holidays.
A few other suggestions: Your membership is monthly and expensive, so collecting email addresses and phone numbers by private message is to your advantage. As your membership runs out, make sure to save the info on members you might want to pursue. Make that month count, put in the time, and you'll have one or two fantastic regulars. Keep your real name out of it. Use that disposable phone and free email address exclusively.
I find the women, for the most part, give up their real information easily. I can find the actual names, phone numbers, facebook pages, and more for most of the women that I met in person and many I only messaged with on the site. Don't make the same mistake, especially when so many of the women can be touchy about the nature of what the site is really all about. One of the women you're "courting" could turn on you, upset that you're "implying something," and suddenly you're in trouble if she knows your identity.
I make no promise using these sites will help you find "better" or "cheaper" than backpage or eros-guide or anything like that. In my experience you can find some women who are full-time pros, the same women from backpage, at roughly the same prices. You probably won't find too many $40 car-date girls if that's your thing, but you never know. It's the others, the amateurs who are morally ok with this but not quite at the pro level, that get me going. I think there's all sorts on Sugar Baby sites, from perfect women who expect to be paid to talk to you to barely-literate strippers. It's about the thrill of the chase, and the promise of a relationship that's slightly more interesting, usually with a woman who genuinely wants to please you, because it's in her own long-term interest. That makes each individual session better, because if you do it right, you're with a woman who wants to keep a good thing going, not a woman who's already collected your money and is watching the clock tick.
Hope this helps somebody on the board. I'm happy to exchange info on specific ladies if I have it, but they turn over so fast it may not be all that useful.
-W.I stumbled on this thread from a photo gallery link. I tried SA in my area (south Florida), and I wish I had read your post before I let my 30 days expire. Excellent advice here!
Hi am scheduled to meet with Danielle from SA today. Wondering if anyone has seen her. Thanks in advance.She is at least a semi-pro. Google Picture search turned up some Backpage ads from another state. Same pics.
Norm!
John Famous,
I look forward to your updates on AllFunNoGames.
Her private pics are looking good.
Thank You.I had a bizzarre experience with AllFunNoGames. Which was the opposite of her SN. It was all games no fun. Texted her, and got back a response that it was the wrong number. Then for a bunch of nasty texts. Then an email on the site saying she thought I was a former sugar daddie with the same name. Then more texts from an different number, indicating he was the sugar daddy in question and ranting on until I blocked him. Word back channel is also she is a little thick, body-wise.
Hope this is of some use to someone.
Norm!
Very useful post. Thanks for sharing. Couple questions. What has been your average conversion rate from email contact to M&G to bed. Also, how much time does it take / need on a weekly basis for all the data mining on SA website and for back and forth communication with the SBs.Hey Lebruno, conversion rate from contact to meet is the worst. Maybe 1/10 end up meeting. Some of those are my choice, they send more pics and I don't like them, or I do my research on facebook or Maryland Case Search or Backpage or whatever and bow out (found one young woman who was on the sex offender list, although who knows for what, but I didn't want to mess with that.) Many times the girl isn't serious or stops communicating when you suggest a meet. I think many of them make profiles while drunk and desperate and can't go though with it sober. Or they have the same problems most providers do and can't organize their lives enough to make it for an appointment or date.
Once I meet them, conversion rate to bed is pretty high, better than 50%, and when it doesn't happen it's mostly my choice. I've gone through with some despite red flags (the aforementioned bartender I suspected was going to be kind of off-putting but she was cute and willing and I have a thing for bartenders.) For the most part I'm screening enough that I don't meet women unless I'm pretty sure they're DTF.
Time spent just depends. Some women want you to text them all day like their boyfriend. I weed them out quick or tell them I can't do that at work. And if you're serious and polite and have a nice picture, the messages will start to pile up fast, and suddenly you're on there a lot.
W.
Wolverineman
12-10-15, 16:45
She is at least a semi-pro. Google Picture search turned up some Backpage ads from another state. Same pics.
Norm!I saw those pics Norm, thanks. I saw her today. Car date since she can't host and I didn't have time for a notel. Very pretty, sweet and accommodating. Nice girl overall.
Johnfamous
12-10-15, 17:01
I had a bizzarre experience with AllFunNoGames. Which was the opposite of her SN. It was all games no fun. Texted her, and got back a response that it was the wrong number. Then for a bunch of nasty texts. Then an email on the site saying she thought I was a former sugar daddie with the same name. Then more texts from an different number, indicating he was the sugar daddy in question and ranting on until I blocked him. Word back channel is also she is a little thick, body-wise.
Hope this is of some use to someone.
Norm!Norm, that's enough for me to call it off. Thanks for spreading the word. She gave me an address in Northeast but wouldn't tell me the apt. Number until I get there. That's an hour drive for me! And I don't need other guys yelling at me.
Johnfamous
12-10-15, 17:29
Hi Gents, Anyone have an experience of UrXscape on SA? I just negotiated her down from 500 to 200 and she hosts.
You Know Who79
12-10-15, 19:07
I saw those pics Norm, thanks. I saw her today. Car date since she can't host and I didn't have time for a notel. Very pretty, sweet and accommodating. Nice girl overall.I saw her today as well. Of course she gives the speech about not seeing anyone else today. LOL. But yes very accommodating. Wolverineman. Pm me. I would love to compare notes.
Hi Gents, Anyone have an experience of UrXscape on SA? I just negotiated her down from 500 to 200 and she hosts.She cancelled on me at the last minute a couple of weeks back. I usually don't follow up after that. She just contacted me again. Don't know if I'll follow through this time. She must need cash. Beware she may cancel, unless it was a one-time thing.
BuffBill75
12-11-15, 10:10
Any experiences from these SA ladies?
Olivia pope1.
I met my prince!
Cutie121990.
Sunny H.
All seem willing to meet but we all know what WE want to meet for. I'll report back on them but appreciate feedback if anyone has any.
Member #5578
12-11-15, 11:54
Any experiences from these SA ladies?
Olivia pope1.
I met my prince!
Cutie121990.
Sunny H.
All seem willing to meet but we all know what WE want to meet for. I'll report back on them but appreciate feedback if anyone has any.I'm not sure if we are allowed to post links to the profiles but for SA could we maybe start sharing the profile I'd? It's the part of the URL that looks like this: e92 e88 c21.
Since you can't search for screen names it's very hard to find folks people are talking about. Some of us are in different areas and use different search parameters.
Just an idea!
Johnfamous
12-11-15, 15:58
Any experiences from these SA ladies?
Olivia pope1.
I met my prince!
Cutie121990.
Sunny H.
All seem willing to meet but we all know what WE want to meet for. I'll report back on them but appreciate feedback if anyone has any.Sunny was very good about writing back and forth. Until she told me that she didn't think we would work. That happened when I complimented her body in her pictures. She actually lives in Edgewood and said she would uber to meet me elsewhere. I would pick up cab fare.
I've always wondered about cutie121990.
I think "I met my prince" close her profile.
Traveling John #2
12-12-15, 09:57
She cancelled on me at the last minute a couple of weeks back. I usually don't follow up after that. She just contacted me again. Don't know if I'll follow through this time. She must need cash. Beware she may cancel, unless it was a one-time thing.I can't find this one on SA, did she delete her profile?
BuffBill75
12-12-15, 11:37
I'm not sure if we are allowed to post links to the profiles but for SA could we maybe start sharing the profile I'd? It's the part of the URL that looks like this: e92 e88 c21.
Since you can't search for screen names it's very hard to find folks people are talking about. Some of us are in different areas and use different search parameters.
Just an idea!You can search for the screen name is you use the search text filter.
I can't find this one on SA, did she delete her profile?Using BaltFun's system, look for e3 a5 a2 b01. Hope this is OK, mod.
BuffBill75
12-13-15, 14:24
Sigh.
I thought I'd be knee deep in hot chocolate next week but it looks like its not going to happen. She told me she wanted $2200 a month. That's not a typo. What the hell are some of these girls thinking?
BuffBill75
12-13-15, 14:33
Cutie121990.
She sent me a pic. Ran it through an image search and found an old BP ad calling herself Lilly. Mixed reviews. Looks like this one is a pro or former pro. FYI.
Traveling John #2
12-13-15, 23:08
Using BaltFun's system, look for e3 a5 a2 b01. Hope this is OK, mod.Also a good way to track if they change their name I would imagine.
Traveling John #2
12-13-15, 23:10
Cutie121990.
She sent me a pic. Ran it through an image search and found an old BP ad calling herself Lilly. Mixed reviews. Looks like this one is a pro or former pro. FYI.I really thought she looked like someone reviewed from CL before.
ArmyStrong
12-14-15, 01:48
Sigh.
I thought I'd be knee deep in hot chocolate next week but it looks like its not going to happen. She told me she wanted $2200 a month. That's not a typo. What the hell are some of these girls thinking?They believe that this a job of some sort.
ILoveItDoggy69
12-14-15, 10:00
I really thought she looked like someone reviewed from CL before.You can still find her on BP here and there in the body rub section. Also on craigslist. "I charge for my time spent visiting and a massage, if you want one. Anything else that happens is between consenting adults and not a paid service. ".
I believe she is out of the owings mills area.
SpiceOfLife
12-14-15, 10:54
You can still find her on BP here and there in the body rub section. Also on craigslist. "I charge for my time spent visiting and a massage, if you want one. Anything else that happens is between consenting adults and not a paid service. ".
I believe she is out of the owings mills area.I met her thru SA. Took her out for drinks, decided we probably weren't a good match, and went our separate ways. She was cute enough. Then I saw a semi-review on her here, and one afternoon called her up and sure enough she was available so made the drive, paid $200 and got my one-shot and it was over. My fault for lack of stamina, but she wouldn't even entertain the idea of a HJ to fill our time. No kissing, Doesn't like oral (I didn't get oral either but I think YMMV). Very pro-like and I was looking for a SB so my first instinct was correct but I did get to spend a few minutes drilling a slim, attractive woman so it wasn't a disaster either. Her place was nice and clean.
Member #4966
12-14-15, 21:50
Ha. The closer the girl is to DC, the more money she expects. I had a fat girl quote me 5 K. Its a shame they are believing the hype. Don't have to be cheap, but unless you look like an eastern European super model, or you want daily sex, 2200 is insane for a Baltimore woman.
Sigh.
I thought I'd be knee deep in hot chocolate next week but it looks like its not going to happen. She told me she wanted $2200 a month. That's not a typo. What the hell are some of these girls thinking?
Member #4966
12-14-15, 21:55
Kay is a nice girl, but her appearance in person is not as nice as the photos. Also, I got the sense that she's not looking for sugar-baby but is a straight-up p4 p, in and out the door deal. Might of caught her on a bad day though.
I have been chatting with these two young ladies separately Kay will host in Columbia and Liz will go to a notel, anyone may first contact yet? Working on some new contacts in Florida, but don't want to piss off the hater. So if we speak off site hmu, if not thank sorry.
Member #4966
12-14-15, 22:03
So I've sworn off Wilkens girls and backpage and massage parlors and hookers. I really really like the budding sugar-baby / sugar-daddy thing I've got going. Now I've seen her once, way overpaid (500 dollars), and I have sent her 20 here, 50 there for different things via Internet. She seems rather naive, or plays it well. She seems quite young and is going to community college. Has worked in fast food, obviously I can offer more than a crappy burger-joint pay and probably treat her with more respect to boot.
Question for you experienced guys. Is 500 a month for two visits a month of a couple hours, and the understanding of 20 here 50 there with no strings attached a laughable amount?
I mean, the girl doesn't even have a car and lives at home (yes she's of age). Its fun playing daddy, but I'm wondering what a reasonable amount is for a girl from PG county and a guy that doesn't have tons of discretionary income.
Thanks. SA really is a great middle ground. It feels good knowing the money I gave her is paying for tuition and not crack. Any helpful advice would be welcome.
So I've sworn off Wilkens girls and backpage and massage parlors and hookers. I really really like the budding sugar-baby / sugar-daddy thing I've got going. Now I've seen her once, way overpaid (500 dollars), and I have sent her 20 here, 50 there for different things via Internet. She seems rather naive, or plays it well. She seems quite young and is going to community college. Has worked in fast food, obviously I can offer more than a crappy burger-joint pay and probably treat her with more respect to boot.
Question for you experienced guys. Is 500 a month for two visits a month of a couple hours, and the understanding of 20 here 50 there with no strings attached a laughable amount?
I mean, the girl doesn't even have a car and lives at home (yes she's of age). Its fun playing daddy, but I'm wondering what a reasonable amount is for a girl from PG county and a guy that doesn't have tons of discretionary income.
Thanks. SA really is a great middle ground. It feels good knowing the money I gave her is paying for tuition and not crack. Any helpful advice would be welcome.I wouldn't call it laughable, but it might be a bit high. It really depends on what you're looking for out of the arrangement. But if you're enjoying your time with her, you might be better off with someone you know than rolling the dice on a bad experience.
Have plans to meet with her tomorrow. URL code is e48 cb 39 f. Any experience? If not I'll TOFTT and report back, unless someone tells me to pass.
So I've sworn off Wilkens girls and backpage and massage parlors and hookers. I really really like the budding sugar-baby / sugar-daddy thing I've got going. Now I've seen her once, way overpaid (500 dollars), and I have sent her 20 here, 50 there for different things via Internet. She seems rather naive, or plays it well. She seems quite young and is going to community college. Has worked in fast food, obviously I can offer more than a crappy burger-joint pay and probably treat her with more respect to boot.
Question for you experienced guys. Is 500 a month for two visits a month of a couple hours, and the understanding of 20 here 50 there with no strings attached a laughable amount?
I mean, the girl doesn't even have a car and lives at home (yes she's of age). Its fun playing daddy, but I'm wondering what a reasonable amount is for a girl from PG county and a guy that doesn't have tons of discretionary income.
Thanks. SA really is a great middle ground. It feels good knowing the money I gave her is paying for tuition and not crack. Any helpful advice would be welcome.If she's hot and spinner type this is a good deal. I have been having luck on SA and WYP and you need to weed out the expensive ones anget the ones that are looking for side funds. They can be found but it takes time and effort.
Member #4966
12-15-15, 08:15
I meant laughable as in low. Did you mean a bit low or a bit high?
I wouldn't call it laughable, but it might be a bit high. It really depends on what you're looking for out of the arrangement. But if you're enjoying your time with her, you might be better off with someone you know than rolling the dice on a bad experience..
I meant laughable as in low. Did you mean a bit low or a bit high?
.So I was actually thinking a bit high LOL. But with that said allowances can vary a lot. Without knowing the person in question it's tough to say.
So I've sworn off Wilkens girls and backpage and massage parlors and hookers. I really really like the budding sugar-baby / sugar-daddy thing I've got going. Now I've seen her once, way overpaid (500 dollars), and I have sent her 20 here, 50 there for different things via Internet. She seems rather naive, or plays it well. She seems quite young and is going to community college. Has worked in fast food, obviously I can offer more than a crappy burger-joint pay and probably treat her with more respect to boot.
Question for you experienced guys. Is 500 a month for two visits a month of a couple hours, and the understanding of 20 here 50 there with no strings attached a laughable amount?
I mean, the girl doesn't even have a car and lives at home (yes she's of age). Its fun playing daddy, but I'm wondering what a reasonable amount is for a girl from PG county and a guy that doesn't have tons of discretionary income.
Thanks. SA really is a great middle ground. It feels good knowing the money I gave her is paying for tuition and not crack. Any helpful advice would be welcome.First of all, kudos to you for being able to make the safer switch to these girls. I think 500 a month is an excellent deal for you, so long as you are leaving completely satisfied. Is this amount in addition to hotel fees or is there a housing arrangement as well? Although this girl could probably make that much in a day on backpage, she probably does not want to. I think you have a good deal, and likely with someone safer and more consistent than you'd find elsewhere. She might wise up and ask for more eventually so be prepared.
Wolverineman
12-15-15, 12:44
I am meeting with Jordyn from SA this afternoon. Anyone have any experience with her. Thanks in advance.
I am meeting with Jordyn from SA this afternoon. Anyone have any experience with her. Thanks in advance.LOTS of fun. Open minded and cool. Enjoy!!
Member #5578
12-15-15, 14:54
I am meeting with Jordyn from SA this afternoon. Anyone have any experience with her. Thanks in advance.Almost met once but something came up, looks cute. Had talked about $$ Looking forward to your report.
Johnfamous
12-15-15, 17:03
So, I've been corresponding with ea f0 3 f 32 1 to use our new system for SA. She finds me witty and intelligent. And wants 200 to take her to lunch as a "gift of appreciation. " I told her that as much as I am interested in her, I probably could not afford her if she wanted that much just to meet.
And I got an unsolicited message from e9 7 c ca 70 1 that she is interested in me. Any thoughts?
Finally, I met with e8 2 d 8 e c2 1 who has been slutting it out on tinder and thought she could get some sugar. Very pretty young upper middle class asian with a great mind. She is going to discover that she doesn't want to be playing this game soon and is going to disappear. She didn't like my offer.
I usually offer 200 in sugar for the first time to see what they do. I never want to jump in with both feet with these girls.
Member #5578
12-15-15, 17:18
So, I've been corresponding with ea f0 3 f 32 1 to use our new system for SA. She finds me witty and intelligent. And wants 200 to take her to lunch as a "gift of appreciation. " I told her that as much as I am interested in her, I probably could not afford her if she wanted that much just to meet.
And I got an unsolicited message from e9 7 c ca 70 1 that she is interested in me. Any thoughts?
Finally, I met with e8 2 d 8 e c2 1 who has been slutting it out on tinder and thought she could get some sugar. Very pretty young upper middle class asian with a great mind. She is going to discover that she doesn't want to be playing this game soon and is going to disappear. She didn't like my offer.
I usually offer 200 in sugar for the first time to see what they do. I never want to jump in with both feet with these girls.I think HoneyBunns was on WYP, I made an offer and WYP pulled her account and actually refunded me, so I'm suspecting some pretty shady stuff.
On Bella I'm sure you've seen the other comments. I know I read recently the she pulled the same eviction stunt with someone else that she had tried with me. Sounds like she is fun if you get her at the right time thought.
The last one appears to have pulled her profile, but interesting comment on Tinder. I have found MANY SBs on tinder, of course with real name and such. Always interesting, never match, wonder what it takes on there. Can I get it for free if I'm suave enough?
John HandCock
12-15-15, 19:27
You can search for the screen name is you use the search text filter.Yes you can link the profile to your post. Several SD forums do it.
Traveling John #2
12-15-15, 20:51
So, I've been corresponding with ea f0 3 f 32 1 to use our new system for SA. She finds me witty and intelligent. And wants 200 to take her to lunch as a "gift of appreciation. " I told her that as much as I am interested in her, I probably could not afford her if she wanted that much just to meet.
And I got an unsolicited message from e9 7 c ca 70 1 that she is interested in me. Any thoughts?
Finally, I met with e8 2 d 8 e c2 1 who has been slutting it out on tinder and thought she could get some sugar. Very pretty young upper middle class asian with a great mind. She is going to discover that she doesn't want to be playing this game soon and is going to disappear. She didn't like my offer.
I usually offer 200 in sugar for the first time to see what they do. I never want to jump in with both feet with these girls.Belly baby was reported on a few times and the last report is the same experience I had. She only wanted like 600 and was going to be evicted, would take 300 but I told her would never agree to that with out meeting she then went silent.
Honey buns says right in her profile she wants a meeting gift. A few of these girls will play that game and as long as dudes pay it, there is no need to do anything else. She could do 4 dates a day at 200 a pop or even just 20 dates in a month would be nice income.
I'm arranging dates with the following, from WYP, and does anyone have any expereince with them.
Monroe24.
Snow.
Lola101.
John HandCock
12-16-15, 10:01
You can post the links to these girls. Other SD forums do it. Whatever works best for you. Keep up the good work and info.
ShortMan22
12-16-15, 12:07
I am meeting with Jordyn from SA this afternoon. Anyone have any experience with her. Thanks in advance.How did it go? Please share the details or you can PM me.
Johnfamous
12-16-15, 13:26
Had back to back meetings with this young lady over the two days. Code e0 dd 56 d2 1 First serious prospect for a SB that wasn't just needing rent money in the face of eviction. She told me over and over again we were perfect for each other. That we were each other's fantasy. And. Turns out she wants a long term commitment coming in between 30 k and 40 k and says she has had offers of 100 K even though her life style setting was "negotiable. " I cannot afford to play this game!
Member #5578
12-16-15, 13:27
I'm arranging dates with the following, from WYP, and does anyone have any expereince with them.
Monroe24.
Snow.
Lola101.I've not met any of them, but a SB I've been with knows Lola101 personally. She didn't have polite things to say. I recommend caution.
Had back to back meetings with this young lady over the two days. Code e0 dd 56 d2 1 First serious prospect for a SB that wasn't just needing rent money in the face of eviction. She told me over and over again we were perfect for each other. That we were each other's fantasy. And. Turns out she wants a long term commitment coming in between 30 k and 40 k and says she has had offers of 100 K even though her life style setting was "negotiable. " I cannot afford to play this game!Wow that's outrageous. There are many hot spinners to choose from at a better price. Its a lot of work but they are out there.
If they are super hot and get my juices flowing I will not give more than 500 per play session, but they have to be hot.
SpiceOfLife
12-16-15, 16:00
I have a date tomorrow with this little cutie. Has anyone else met her?
Johnfamous
12-16-15, 16:01
Belly baby was reported on a few times and the last report is the same experience I had. She only wanted like 600 and was going to be evicted, would take 300 but I told her would never agree to that with out meeting she then went silent.
Honey buns says right in her profile she wants a meeting gift. A few of these girls will play that game and as long as dudes pay it, there is no need to do anything else. She could do 4 dates a day at 200 a pop or even just 20 dates in a month would be nice income.HunnyBunny just messaged me. She has come down to 50 in "appreciation money" and lunch to discuss the arrangement. I feel baited.
SpiceOfLife
12-16-15, 18:14
I'm arranging dates with the following, from WYP, and does anyone have any expereince with them.
Monroe24.
Snow.
Lola101.I've also got some interest from Monroe24. I'd like to know what your experience is. BC if you want.
I got an email from SA saying Bella had sent me a message. Don't know why she didn't just text my phone after the back and forth we had on Thanksgiving. Thinking that maybe her phone wasn't working, I texted her number saying I received a message from her on SA, and was wondering if her phone was working and to let me know. I received an immediate reply saying it does. I sent another text saying I have not upgraded on SA and could not read her message, and asked what she said. I did not hear back from her. Maybe she remembered that I was the one on WYP who had a $100 offered accepted from her, but when we texted back and forth, she needed $650 or would be evicted and never heard back from her when I said I could help with the 100. Hope you wealthier guys are keeping her from being evicted. LOL.
SpiceOfLife
12-16-15, 18:41
I got an email from SA saying Bella had sent me a message. Don't know why she didn't just text my phone after the back and forth we had on Thanksgiving. Thinking that maybe her phone wasn't working, I texted her number saying I received a message from her on SA, and was wondering if her phone was working and to let me know. I received an immediate reply saying it does. I sent another text saying I have not upgraded on SA and could not read her message, and asked what she said. I did not hear back from her. Maybe she remembered that I was the one on WYP who had a $100 offered accepted from her, but when we texted back and forth, she needed $650 or would be evicted and never heard back from her when I said I could help with the 100. Hope you wealthier guys are keeping her from being evicted. LOL.Yeah she's hitting me up on WYP but I'm not interested in getting in that deep right off the bat with a new SB.
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