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12-31-99, 20:00
Philly now has a fight thread. This is where all this bullshit goes now. No threats, no unsubstantiated STD reports, no minors, no revealing personal info, what you can do is argue till your fingers fall off if you want. The name of the thread just came off the top of my head. If you guys don't like it make suggestions.

The downside of this is that douchebaggery will not be tolerated at all on review threads. One douchey comment in a review thread gets you put back on moderation. You have been told, don't cry if you fuck up.

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NumberDude
07-09-15, 15:31
Was wondering if she's still around and if ya got a pic. Dated an Ashley last year and old number not working. Want to make sure same one. Message me w number if its her. Thanks.That's your first post, and you're ASKING for a number and a pic? How about contributing before you take? You'll get more honey that way. Just sayin.

AaronBoy
07-11-15, 20:34
That's your first post, and you're ASKING for a number and a pic? How about contributing before you take? You'll get more honey that way. Just sayin.Come on dude, what's wrong with helping a bruh get some pussy or his dick sucked. Is it. That serious. Why do some of us get on this site an act like we handling gold. Its just some pussy. If you got some good reliable info, share the shit man. It should make you feel good that you contributed to a bruh getting some puss. Lets stop with this bullshit about whether someone contributed or not. We were all newbies at one point.

A.

Waldo58
07-11-15, 22:15
Lets stop with this bullshit about whether someone contributed or not.I agree, AaronBoy. We get the same bs from the guy with over 4,000 posts. High post count or porn count doesn't make any of us superior.

NumberDude
07-11-15, 23:50
Come on dude, what's wrong with helping a bruh get some pussy or his dick sucked. Is it. That serious. Why do some of us get on this site an act like we handling gold. Its just some pussy. If you got some good reliable info, share the shit man. It should make you feel good that you contributed to a bruh getting some puss. Lets stop with this bullshit about whether someone contributed or not. We were all newbies at one point.

A.I'm a strong believer and supporter of sharing information on this forum. I also believe in earning what you get on this forum, as in life generally. You got to give in order to get. BTW, if it was "just" pussy, do you really think any of us would put so much effort into the hobby? I guess that's my point. You have to put out some effort before you come running with your grubby hands out yelling "give me, give me". It just ain't polite.

Cephlapod Love
07-12-15, 18:29
Lets stop with this bullshit about whether someone contributed or not. We were all newbies at one point.

A.I guess one is in favor of helping a dude who asks a question that is answered 3 posts prior? Lots of collected info here, but no need to RTFT, just ask away?

But yeah, we all were new once, and there is no problem with being new. I dunno, maybe one has been mongering for years and just finds these threads? There is always a way to earn a few stripes: share one's experience, offer advice or even ask questions and seek advice.

Is it too much to ask everyone to be a part of the community here and contribute? Is it too much to ask to encourage others to contribute here? We need more sharing and contributions.

Anyone that doesn't agree with my point of view then kindly PM me your entire list of phone numbers of the best girls! After all I asked, and you should help out!

AaronBoy
07-13-15, 23:33
I guess one is in favor of helping a dude who asks a question that is answered 3 posts prior? Lots of collected info here, but no need to RTFT, just ask away?

But yeah, we all were new once, and there is no problem with being new. I dunno, maybe one has been mongering for years and just finds these threads? There is always a way to earn a few stripes: share one's experience, offer advice or even ask questions and seek advice.

Is it too much to ask everyone to be a part of the community here and contribute? Is it too much to ask to encourage others to contribute here? We need more sharing and contributions.

Anyone that doesn't agree with my point of view then kindly PM me your entire list of phone numbers of the best girls! After all I asked, and you should help out!I agree with you Mr. Love, not to be combative, but how can we as men who, are fucking with the lowest of the low, as it relates to the female species, be selfish with that. The only thing I can come up with is that those who feel the way you feel, might have a problem getting free pussy and your dick sucked. My thing is this, if you have the information to share, share it. If you don't, then that comment shouldn' t apply to you. The way I grew up, you only get selfish with the dime pieces, not the ones that everybody and their cousin fucks. Maybe I got the game all wrong.

A.

RecycleMikel6
07-14-15, 00:18
I guess one is in favor of helping a dude who asks a question that is answered 3 posts prior? Lots of collected info here, but no need to RTFT, just ask away?

But yeah, we all were new once, and there is no problem with being new. I dunno, maybe one has been mongering for years and just finds these threads? There is always a way to earn a few stripes: share one's experience, offer advice or even ask questions and seek advice.

Is it too much to ask everyone to be a part of the community here and contribute? Is it too much to ask to encourage others to contribute here? We need more sharing and contributions.

Anyone that doesn't agree with my point of view then kindly PM me your entire list of phone numbers of the best girls! After all I asked, and you should help out!I'm sorry sir. At this moment you only have 909 posts. I guess you should wait until 1000. Actually this talk should be taken care of in the rules of the forum if that is what people want. I have asked girls if it is ok to distribute their digits. I check the number of posts and the "content". If the person is just posting to get their number up and there is no real content then they aren't participating in the forum. I also let the lady know who I have given the number to (username) since she needs to know if they are in the loop. RM.

CookyJar
07-14-15, 07:45
I agree with you Mr. Love, not to be combative, but how can we as men who, are fucking with the lowest of the low, as it relates to the female species, be selfish with that. The only thing I can come up with is that those who feel the way you feel, might have a problem getting free pussy and your dick sucked. My thing is this, if you have the information to share, share it. If you don't, then that comment shouldn' t apply to you. The way I grew up, you only get selfish with the dime pieces, not the ones that everybody and their cousin fucks. Maybe I got the game all wrong.

A.Yeah! You've got it wrong. I'll explain it later.

CookyJar.

AaronBoy
07-14-15, 23:28
Soooo I've been inactive on the forum for a while, but active as hell out on the Ave. I've found some pretty decent new talent, seen a couple departures, and seen some old faces that I'd thought I'd seen the last of. Here's the highlights and the lowlifes:

Melissa. Skinny blond WSW who is frequently seen around Cambria / Hart Lane. Quiet, very mild mannered, occasionally throws some pink or blue in her hair. Great oral skills, going price 30 or up. She doesn't vary her technique a lot, but takes you deep nonstop like a machine. Also, if you take care of her, she tends to give you the bonus of a second nut. After you cum the first time, she just keeps on going until you get off again (which, in the sensitive state I'm in right after, doesn't take all that long). I expressed surprise the first time she did it. She said "not a lot of guys can handle that. " Glad she tried it out on me.

Cece. Ran into her again recently after not having seen her out for a few months. She's pretty, clean and nice to talk to. And a Deadhead. Always liked her. Still offering great oral, I also have had FS with her and that's worthwhile also. Typically near Huntington, sometimes on Jasper.

Colleen. This girl kind of sustained me during the winter, when I would come out late and she'd literally be the only girl out. I have nice sexual chemistry with her but YMMV. Recently, with the enhanced selection out, I've passed her by a few times just in search of something different. On these occasions, she's yelled out or tried to catch my attention, which I'm not crazy about. In the past month of so she's dropped a ton of weight and doesn't look to good. She's also seemingly pissed at me for blowing her off and gave me a baaaad look the last time I saw her. As if monogamy was part of this deal, right?

Dawn. Okay, her face is just plain looking old. However, her bod is the closest to its bangin' best it's been in a while. Those who know her know that the boobs are fake but pretty. I always liked her attitude, she's an old pro and takes care of you the way you like it. More recently I've seen her closer to the Bull but she's usually closer to Venango or Tioga.

Kayla. This blondie is one of my all time faves, back on the Ave after almost 2 years clean (she was working backpage, apparently). Monstrously good head game. She and I have some of the best sexual chemistry I've ever experienced with a SW, and she clearly gets off multiple times, which is always awesome and a huge turn on. I just plain like the gal. Frequently near Tioga.

Courtney. This mid-to-late 30's MILF gave the hands down best BJ I've ever had on the Ave. I met her originally near the Bull (on the street in back of the dealership) but we quickly starting getting together by phone. I'd seen her once or twice near Tioga also. Sadly, she has apparently fallen for and moved in with one of her dates (which probably makes her addicted husband feel like shit) and it seems her time is over. Shame.

Corrine. Yep, Corrine. Here's a girl I thought was gone forever. She's back. I'll never understand how a complete and total lesbian gives such good head. But then again, practice. I like her. She's cool. Still good but seems like not quite as good as she used to be for a BBBJ.

Those absurdly hot girls near the bull: Haven't tried yet. They quote 50 for head, 100 for sex. Clearly working for a pimp, in stereotypical hooker dress. The one time I was considering it, she was negotiating thru a car window when I got the "this is likely too good to be true and she's probably a cop" vibe. However, I did covertly follow one time after seeing her get into a car and he did the date without getting busted, so they are likely legit. If anyone has any feedback on service / skills, I'd love to hear it.All I can say is thank you very much sir. I have to say that this is the best report I've seen in the short time I've been on the forum. We should learn from this, including myself. I know a few cats on this site probably think I'm an asshole for making the statements I've made, but if the oldheads where putting out shit like this, newbies wouldn't have to be asking for info. Simple shit. Again I thank you very much. I've learned a lesson here.

A.

CookyJar
07-19-15, 23:14
I agree with you Mr. Love, not to be combative, but how can we as men who, are fucking with the lowest of the low, as it relates to the female species, be selfish with that. The only thing I can come up with is that those who feel the way you feel, might have a problem getting free pussy and your dick sucked. My thing is this, if you have the information to share, share it. If you don't, then that comment shouldn' t apply to you. The way I grew up, you only get selfish with the dime pieces, not the ones that everybody and their cousin fucks. Maybe I got the game all wrong.
A.Yeah! You got it all wrong.

They are all dime pieces. Some, in your opinion may be better looking than others. They all deserve the same respect.

Lowest of the low? Kiss my ass.

Do you really believe you are better than the hooker or prostitute who suck dicks for a living. You may be better off, but you are not better than. Hooker and Prostitute is a job description. It is not who or what they are. They are people, human beings, just like your dump-ass. Never go judging people by just what they do; in all likelihood your mom has sucked a dick or two in her time. (All be it probably was not for money or out of need. She likely did it for fun.).

I was talking with an Iraqi Veteran earlier today. He was missing most of his right arm and leg, and digits off of his left hand. As an amputee with prosthetics he may be able to go on and make a good life for himself. But! He will never be able to go back and undo his first big mistake, one I am sure he has thought about many times. He will never be able to take back or undo his decision to join the service.

I also saw the girl we call Maylea, tonight. Shaking, trembling and tweaking, with both of her hands burned and scarred; the results of an accident while taking a hit. I am sure that Maylea, like the veteran I meant earlier, thinks about what if, a lot. What if she could go back and undo that bad decision she made to take that first hit. But, she cannot. And! He cannot! Life is full of decisions, some are good and some are not. Some we make and some are made for us.

Before you go calling another human being the lowest of the low, think about this, but for the luck of the draw it could have be you.

CookyJar.

PS: Just because you have not done something or made a decison that ruined your life, does not make you better than people like Maylea or the Vet.

EthRidge3
07-20-15, 10:16
CJ,

Amazingly well said. You're absolutely right. We all deserve the same respect, whether walking the streets, fighting for the military, driving a truck, or being a, stay at home mom. You echo my sentiments to a T.

E.


Yeah! You got it all wrong.

They are all dime pieces. Some, in your opinion may be better looking than others. They all deserve the same respect.

Lowest of the low? Kiss my ass.

Do you really believe you are better than the hooker or prostitute who suck dicks for a living. You may be better off, but you are not better than. Hooker and Prostitute is a job description. It is not who or what they are. They are people, human beings, just like your dump-ass. Never go judging people by just what they do; in all likelihood your mom has sucked a dick or two in her time. (All be it probably was not for money or out of need. She likely did it for fun.).

I was talking with an Iraqi Veteran earlier today. He was missing most of his right arm and leg, and digits off of his left hand. As an amputee with prosthetics he may be able to go on and make a good life for himself. But! He will never be able to go back and undo his first big mistake, one I am sure he has thought about many times. He will never be able to take back or undo his decision to join the service.

I also saw the girl we call Maylea, tonight. Shaking, trembling and tweaking, with both of her hands burned and scarred; the results of an accident while taking a hit. I am sure that Maylea, like the veteran I meant earlier, thinks about what if, a lot. What if she could go back and undo that bad decision she made to take that first hit. But, she cannot. And! He cannot! Life is full of decisions, some are good and some are not. Some we make and some are made for us.

Before you go calling another human being the lowest of the low, think about this, but for the luck of the draw it could have be you.

CookyJar.

PS: Just because you have not done something or made a decison that ruined your life, does not make you better than people like Maylea or the Vet.

Gator145
07-20-15, 13:36
Yeah! You got it all wrong.

They are all dime pieces. Some, in your opinion may be better looking than others. They all deserve the same respect.

Lowest of the low? Kiss my ass.

Do you really believe you are better than the hooker or prostitute who suck dicks for a living. You may be better off, but you are not better than. Hooker and Prostitute is a job description. It is not who or what they are. They are people, human beings, just like your dump-ass. Never go judging people by just what they do; in all likelihood your mom has sucked a dick or two in her time. (All be it probably was not for money or out of need. She likely did it for fun.).
PS: Just because you have not done something or made a decison that ruined your life, does not make you better than people like Maylea or the Vet.And so well said my friend. Relax CookyJar. Lets give him the benefit of the doubt and assume a poor choice of words. Not every one knows the girls or their stories as well as you or I. Because of this it becomes our responsibility to clear the air.

When people tend to look at others from their own perspective, they should try to remember to look others in the eye. That way they don't appear to be on another level themselves.

The lowest of the low? Such a poor choice of words. There's that word again, Choice. We all have them. Some are good and some not so good. I would really hope that's all it was. Lets hope that this person doesn't really feel that way. By making a statement such as that, the author inadvertently admits to being part of the equation of the lowest of the low. Unless of course he is just talking about something he has no personal knowledge of. Which of course many people in life so often do. We see it all the time here.

My thought is if we tend to put others at different stations in life who is the lower, the buyer or the seller? What is it in life that raises one and lowers another? Non acceptance of others choices? If that is so, then we that feel that way should remove ourselves from the game completely. As, either its all wrong or its ok? No middle ground on that one the way I see it. What's good for the Goose. Well you all know the rest of that one.

A great friend once explained it to me quite simply. He said if someone degrades another in your presence then he will degrade you behind your back. That is so very true. People become callous and so removed from a particular situation they forget they are an integral part of the issue them selves. They then tend to look down on what it is they are doing and try to justify their thoughts and actions by looking down on others. That does not rectify nor make the reality in itself go away.

We are all a part of the machinery that turns the wheels of the Ave. Every time we pick a woman up we are the cog that turns the wheel at the dealers corner, at the corner that sells the works, etc. Right to the grocery that the addict gets the water for the shot. Where on the ladder of life does that put us? Above or below those we tend to look down upon and still patronize?

When mongers head out to do their deed, they are in search of those that will assist them in that endeavor. Just a thought, if those we seek to accomplish those deeds are good enough to serve us then again at what level are we?

This is not the first time I have heard this type of degradation. Just last week a girl related to me an experience she encountered while on a date. She said the guy had given her fifty dollars. During the act he felt, because of the exchange, that she literally was his to do with as he pleased. Even hurt her physically. Now I ask, who is the low life here? Knowing this girl personally, I would say the piece of shit is the guy who's mind is so fogged as to his station in life he needs daylight pumped in just to find his way around. There are a few of those who feel this way. It's pretty sad. To me it just explains very clearly why he doesn't have a woman and will never have one unless he pay's for it. Monetary exchange for whatever purpose does not give anybody ownership of another. Being the little fart in the breeze does not make one King Shit on Turd Island. In fact it makes one as smelly as the rest of the shits out there. So when we voice our opinions about those we deal with in life, lets be kind and understand there are reasons people do what they do to survive. Nobody gets up in the morning and says to themselves "I need to find someone better than me". They seek those just like themselves. We are all no better than those we seek. Those who feel they are might wish to look in a mirror. Might be very surprised at what they see. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

NvrStlPhilly
07-20-15, 14:42
And so well said my friend. Relax CookyJar. Lets give him the benefit of the doubt and assume a poor choice of words. Not every one knows the girls or their stories as well as you or I. Because of this it becomes our responsibility to clear the air.

When people tend to look at others from their own perspective, they should try to remember to look others in the eye. That way they don't appear to be on another level themselves.

The lowest of the low? Such a poor choice of words. There's that word again, Choice. We all have them. Some are good and some not so good. I would really hope that's all it was. Lets hope that this person doesn't really feel that way. By making a statement such as that, the author inadvertently admits to being part of the equation of the lowest of the low. Unless of course he is just talking about something he has no personal knowledge of. Which of course many people in life so often do. We see it all the time here.

My thought is if we tend to put others at different stations in life who is the lower, the buyer or the seller? What is it in life that raises one and lowers another? Non acceptance of others choices? If that is so, then we that feel that way should remove ourselves from the game completely. As, either its all wrong or its ok? No middle ground on that one the way I see it. What's good for the Goose. Well you all know the rest of that one.

A great friend once explained it to me quite simply. He said if someone degrades another in your presence then he will degrade you behind your back. That is so very true. People become callous and so removed from a particular situation they forget they are an integral part of the issue them selves. They then tend to look down on what it is they are doing and try to justify their thoughts and actions by looking down on others. That does not rectify nor make the reality in itself go away.

We are all a part of the machinery that turns the wheels of the Ave. Every time we pick a woman up we are the cog that turns the wheel at the dealers corner, at the corner that sells the works, etc. Right to the grocery that the addict gets the water for the shot. Where on the ladder of life does that put us? Above or below those we tend to look down upon and still patronize?

When mongers head out to do their deed, they are in search of those that will assist them in that endeavor. Just a thought, if those we seek to accomplish those deeds are good enough to serve us then again at what level are we?

This is not the first time I have heard this type of degradation. Just last week a girl related to me an experience she encountered while on a date. She said the guy had given her fifty dollars. During the act he felt, because of the exchange, that she literally was his to do with as he pleased. Even hurt her physically. Now I ask, who is the low life here? Knowing this girl personally, I would say the piece of shit is the guy who's mind is so fogged as to his station in life he needs daylight pumped in just to find his way around. There are a few of those who feel this way. It's pretty sad. To me it just explains very clearly why he doesn't have a woman and will never have one unless he pay's for it. Monetary exchange for whatever purpose does not give anybody ownership of another. Being the little fart in the breeze does not make one King Shit on Turd Island. In fact it makes one as smelly as the rest of the shits out there. So when we voice our opinions about those we deal with in life, lets be kind and understand there are reasons people do what they do to survive. Nobody gets up in the morning and says to themselves "I need to find someone better than me". They seek those just like themselves. We are all no better than those we seek. Those who feel they are might wish to look in a mirror. Might be very surprised at what they see. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.Hey,

All SW's / dancers, pros and the like all have different reasons they are in the biz.

I just meet too many from high end Delilah's Den girls to the SW. Everyone has a story and reason and sometimes flat out excuse for doing what they do. You don't know how life, it's challenges, the mind etc. Leads them to where they are at. Different story but same result. Women have much more frantic and emotional thinking and it gets worse when they get into the biz. Do you know how many tell me they must turn off there feelings and conscience before each date? Some become evil for life and others commit slow suicide. Everyone is good deep down inside except for a couple of sociopaths. I never disrespect a SW or pro ever.

AaronBoy
07-20-15, 16:21
Yeah! You got it all wrong.

They are all dime pieces. Some, in your opinion may be better looking than others. They all deserve the same respect.

Lowest of the low? Kiss my ass.

Do you really believe you are better than the hooker or prostitute who suck dicks for a living. You may be better off, but you are not better than. Hooker and Prostitute is a job description. It is not who or what they are. They are people, human beings, just like your dump-ass. Never go judging people by just what they do; in all likelihood your mom has sucked a dick or two in her time. (All be it probably was not for money or out of need. She likely did it for fun.).

I was talking with an Iraqi Veteran earlier today. He was missing most of his right arm and leg, and digits off of his left hand. As an amputee with prosthetics he may be able to go on and make a good life for himself. But! He will never be able to go back and undo his first big mistake, one I am sure he has thought about many times. He will never be able to take back or undo his decision to join the service.

I also saw the girl we call Maylea, tonight. Shaking, trembling and tweaking, with both of her hands burned and scarred; the results of an accident while taking a hit. I am sure that Maylea, like the veteran I meant earlier, thinks about what if, a lot. What if she could go back and undo that bad decision she made to take that first hit. But, she cannot. And! He cannot! Life is full of decisions, some are good and some are not. Some we make and some are made for us.

Before you go calling another human being the lowest of the low, think about this, but for the luck of the draw it could have be you.

CookyJar.

PS: Just because you have not done something or made a decison that ruined your life, does not make you better than people like Maylea or the Vet.Wow. I guess I pinched a nerve Mr. CookyJar, But If you were a better reader than photographer, you would have picked up on the beginning of my commentary when I used the word WE. Which most intelligent individuals, would take that to mean that I included myself in the equation. But I can understand why you and a few others, being very emotional guys, who was hurt by my comments. I'm not going to get down to your level to start the you kiss my ass and shit, because that's little boy shit. Even the part about my moms. I will even let you get away with that as well. Because for my comment to get you that angry to make you say what you said, made me realize I really hurt you. I want to say, because I'm always going to be the bigger man, that I am sorry for hurting you like that my man, because it was your pictures that really drew me to the philly forum. And for anybody else on the philly forum who cosigned on your commentary to me, Again my apologies. I will make sure I don't hit so hard the next time, LOL.

Bigtime Monger
07-20-15, 17:42
Ha ha. Good one, AaronBoy. We've had many of these outbursts of insecurity over the years. Sorry you arrived just recently and missed the whole show.

KStreetWatcher
07-21-15, 11:29
Wow. I guess I pinched a nerve Mr. CookyJar, But If you were a better reader than photographer, you would have picked up on the beginning of my commentary when I used the word WE. Which most intelligent individuals, would take that to mean that I included myself in the equation. But I can understand why you and a few others, being very emotional guys, who was hurt by my comments. I'm not going to get down to your level to start the you kiss my ass and shit, because that's little boy shit. Even the part about my moms. I will even let you get away with that as well. Because for my comment to get you that angry to make you say what you said, made me realize I really hurt you. I want to say, because I'm always going to be the bigger man, that I am sorry for hurting you like that my man, because it was your pictures that really drew me to the philly forum. And for anybody else on the philly forum who cosigned on your commentary to me, Again my apologies. I will make sure I don't hit so hard the next time, LOL.Aaron just go away your comments and smug remarks are not needed in this forum.

Buh bye.

Cephlapod Love
07-21-15, 15:40
Colleen. This girl kind of sustained me during the winter, when I would come out late and she'd literally be the only girl out. I have nice sexual chemistry with her but YMMV. Recently, with the enhanced selection out, I've passed her by a few times just in search of something different. On these occasions, she's yelled out or tried to catch my attention, which I'm not crazy about. In the past month of so she's dropped a ton of weight and doesn't look to good. She's also seemingly pissed at me for blowing her off and gave me a baaaad look the last time I saw her. As if monogamy was part of this deal, right?Er, is it possible that while she was sustaining you, you were in fact sustaining her too? She got use to you? Clearly if a girl has seen you and you have good sexual chemistry then she is guna enjoy seeing you. What ares her choices while standing out there? Stand there and risk getting rolled up on by a cop? Get in a car with a stranger with stranger danger? Or jumping in a car with a regular who you had chemistry with? Hmmm, can't imagine why a girl would be upset if the last one of those choices was withdrawn. LOL! I can sure see why she would be disappointed. From her perspective, perhaps she feels as if you used her when you needed her and now tossed her away like trash.

Maybe she feels disrespected? Is there any problem with, when you see her stopping and just say "hi" and mention you have somewhere else to go or are short on funds? Just giving the the courtesy of recognizing her and the chemistry you once had rather than treating her like she was invisible? I dunno, don't know the situation, just thinking out loud. Could be off base, so no offense intended.


Those absurdly hot girls near the bull: Haven't tried yet. They quote 50 for head, 100 for sex. Clearly working for a pimp, in stereotypical hooker dress. The one time I was considering it, she was negotiating thru a car window when I got the "this is likely too good to be true and she's probably a cop" vibe. However, I did covertly follow one time after seeing her get into a car and he did the date without getting busted, so they are likely legit. If anyone has any feedback on service / skills, I'd love to hear it.

Rule #9 VIOLATION!
I just can't stand seeing stuff like this and not comment. I don't care if you followed them all and watched them date a 100 guys. Talking bidness to a girl who is not firmly seated in ones ride is asking for trouble, BIG trouble!

Good luck, stay safe!


http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=MongeringRules

AaronBoy
07-21-15, 19:53
Aaron just go away your comments and smug remarks are not needed in this forum.

Buh bye.Awww the little softy mans feelings hurt. Listen you little mindless man or whatever you are, LOL. I apologized the other day. Don't feel I have to do it again. Why don't you go away since you hurting so much. Man up man. For the record real men don't say bye like that either. Go somewhere will you. Stop bothering me.

JGgarth
07-22-15, 00:33
Couldn't walk by. Probably my fault! LOL.


Yeah! You got it all wrong.

They are all dime pieces. Some, in your opinion may be better looking than others. They all deserve the same respect.How so? Says who? They're all dime pieces?! OK, let us define "dime piece" first, and second, show us how they all are it.


Do you really believe you are better than the hooker or prostitute who suck dicks for a livingCertainly, massa. Why should I not?


You may be better off, but you are not better thanWell, try to stop stipulating for once, and explain some of your contentions.


Hooker and Prostitute is a job description. It is not who or what they areOur jobs do define us to a very large degree. So, yeah, a hooker and a prostitute IS in fact who they are, in part at least.


Never go judging people by just what they doWhy not? Because some "dump ass" internet troll called CJ says so?


in all likelihood your mom has sucked a dick or two in her timeWould be nice to keep our mothers out of it, but one thing I can guarantee — my mother never sucked any dick on K Avenue or similar.


All be it probably was not for money or out of need. She likely did it for fun.Hm. Albeit that makes a sea of difference, you pretend not to understand it?


But! He will never be able to go back and undo his first big mistake, ... his decision to join the service.Why is joining the sevice a mistake? It's an honorable act of a real citizen. Why would you compare a war hero with a hooker? Please explain.


Before you go calling another human being the lowest of the low, think about this, but for the luck of the draw it could have be you. We are makers of our own life. Not 100%, but in a very large degree. The luck of the draw is not a deciding factor, long term.

Admin2
07-22-15, 10:46
I'll reiterate the high point. Now that you guys have a fight thread, the first time you start some shit (and saying "I don't mean to start any shit" then posting some shit starting stupidity won't save you) in a review thread you will immediately be put on moderation.

No warnings, no second chances, you post douchebaggery and you loose the privilege of having your posts go live right away. It's not something I do when I click the button, it's something you did when you clicked upload report.

Flame on,

A2

Waldo58
07-22-15, 12:15
Thanks, Admin2, this thread is probably what we need. You must have heard about that incident where Philly fans tossed snowballs at Santa Claus.

So let me lob a frozen one at a certain type of individual who clogs up the report threads on occasion. Not a specific individual, mind you, just a type.

He's the type who loves to freeload on this for-profit website by storing his porno collection, even though multiple photos of a girl's left toe or asshole don't assist in identifying her on the street. He's the type who, regardless of any military background, is so sensitive that any perceived slight sends him into a tantrum. He's the type who can't write concisely but pours out many too many paragraphs to cry about a perceived slight. He's the type whose vocabulary is so limited that he needs to keep using words like "asshole" repeatedly in his rants. He's the type who says he "respects" the girls but disgraces their children by leaving them online evidence of their mother in 20-30 obscene poses. He's the type who throws around terms like BBBJ but according to the girls doesn't even ask for one. He's the type who doesn't or can't even get sex and so asks others here to make up reviews or makes up exaggerated reports of sexual encounters.

OK, that icy missile has been tossed at one kind of USASG poster. Now when is Santa due in town?

Admin2
07-22-15, 17:16
Thanks, Admin2, this thread is probably what we need. You must have heard about that incident where Philly fans tossed snowballs at Santa Claus.I'm fucking from PA. Not Philly, up in the Yonny country, but it's where I was borned. LOL.

Waldo57
07-22-15, 19:03
Well, I don't know if it's really right or wrong that CookyJar posts explicit photos of women but I do know that it is causing his erectile dysfunction. Recent data and studies have shown that excessive viewing of porn can cause erectile dysfunction. There is a growing number of guys even at the college age who is experiencing erectile dysfunction from porn addiction or excessive viewing.

The male brain can become desensitized with constant nude images of the female and it becomes harder to get really excited once he sees an actual nude female. Studies have also shown that if a male stops seeing these digital images, over time his brain adjusts back to the old way and naturally gets excited over an actual female, thus his erection returns.

I'm not saying that CookyJar is wrong for posting these digital images of explicit nature but if he were to stop looking at these naked photos for a few months or maybe a year, when he comes to a point of seeing an actual naked girl, his erection will automatically be strong and he would not need Viagra any more.

Phillyewe
07-22-15, 20:44
There's a guy trying to steal business from this site by advertising a forum for "senior members" that has no advertising. I got suckered in and applied for "membership", sending him my profile from this site as proof of senior status. What does he do? He jacks up the membership requirements and decides "senior" status isn't good enough after all. Sort of a deceitful bait and switch.

I won't name this sleazeball member, but fortunately Admin deleted his post since it broke the rule about promoting competing websites. I bring this all up in the "fight" thread so you can "fight" back against this dishonest poacher in case he PM's some of you senior members.

Waldo58
07-22-15, 22:01
Perhaps you're right, Waldo57. But the answer could also found in that person's sexual orientation. There were reports here years ago by Red Dragon about that person frequenting a hotel near 17th & Catharine for activities of a type not allowed in this forum. Go figure.

CookyJar
07-22-15, 22:13
Philly now has a fight thread. This is where all this bullshit goes now. No threats, no unsubstantiated STD reports, no minors, no revealing personal info, what you can do is argue till your fingers fall off if you want. The name of the thread just came off the top of my head. If you guys don't like it make suggestions.

The downside of this is that douchebaggery will not be tolerated at all on review threads. One douchey comment in a review thread gets you put back on moderation. You have been told, don't cry if you fuck up.

A2Thanks! But! No thanks!

AaronBoy used a term that touched a raw nerve. I had my say. I hope he and any other mongers who may have had similar thoughts concerning the women who provide for us, got the point I was trying to make.

I have no intentions of participating in arguments just for the sake of arguing.

Been there, done that.

CookyJar.

P.S.: I hope you will continue to allow me the same laxity and wide range of topics in the CookyJar's Streetwalkers Photos Thread.

AaronBoy
07-23-15, 00:53
Philly now has a fight thread. This is where all this bullshit goes now. No threats, no unsubstantiated STD reports, no minors, no revealing personal info, what you can do is argue till your fingers fall off if you want. The name of the thread just came off the top of my head. If you guys don't like it make suggestions.

The downside of this is that douchebaggery will not be tolerated at all on review threads. One douchey comment in a review thread gets you put back on moderation. You have been told, don't cry if you fuck up.

A2Good Idea Admin. I need a little advice.

Since I'm a little green with the site, I just wanted to know how to handle being bombarded by the boyfriends of a certain individual on this site. Over the last few days since the madness begin, I've been getting PM calling me asshole from several of them. Is it a way I can block them from sending it to me?

Waldo58
07-23-15, 08:01
Good Idea Admin. I need a little advice.

Since I'm a little green with the site, I just wanted to know how to handle being bombarded by the boyfriends of a certain individual on this site. Over the last few days since the madness begin, I've been getting PM calling me asshole from several of them. Is it a way I can block them from sending it to me?There's no perfect solution for that. You could go to your Settings and:1) turn off Private Messaging, which means you wouldn't get legitimate mail2) receive PMs only from Contacts and Moderator, which means you have to set up a list of buddies and still would miss legitimate messages from those you don't know.

Unfortunately I don't believe the Ignore function filters private messages too.

That certain individual you refer to has a history of creating and posting under aliases. I've seen him actually reply to one of his own posts with his alias. LOL. I'd suggest you just delete PMs and wait him out. He'll eventually get distracted by someone else's post that pierces his thin skin!

Or, you could write me, ask me to look at your PM's and if somebody is abusing their PM privileges I will take them away from them.

Otherwise just delete them unread. Ignoring trolls is what really pisses them off.

A2

Phillyewe
07-23-15, 08:33
I've been getting PM calling me asshole from several of them.Post their names in this thread! That'll stop the cowards. There is absolutely no prohibition from printing the contents of a PM in a public thread, especially the fight thread. We're all curious about who his boy toys are anyway. Or are they all his aliases!

Actually Philly we frown on posting the contents on public threads. PM means Private Message. However, part of my job is to root out douchebaggery wherever it shows it's ugly face.

A2

HPS 9949
07-23-15, 12:17
I just wanted to know how to handle being bombarded by the boyfriends of a certain individual on this site.They may or may not be from the same guy using different handles. If you see one from T Shirt or CaptQuickdraw or DavidRoberts, for example, they are. But realize this: 99% of the male population loves porn, so if you criticize a porn provider even with good reason as you have, his defenders will crawl out of the woodwork and into your mailbox.

Admin2
07-23-15, 13:55
Thanks! But! No thanks!

AaronBoy used a term that touched a raw nerve. I had my say. I hope he and any other mongers who may have had similar thoughts concerning the women who provide for us, got the point I was trying to make.

I have no intentions of participating in arguments just for the sake of arguing.

Been there, done that.

CookyJar.

P.S.: I hope you will continue to allow me the same laxity and wide range of topics in the CookyJar's Streetwalkers Photos Thread.That thread is kind of in some middle ground. On one hand it's not a review thread, but on the other it's sticky and popular. I don't mind that it's social, I don't mind that it moves around from topic to topic. What I want to see is thee convo move and evolve. If it gets bogged down in douchebaggery I'll take action.

Sorry, there's a lot of subjectivity in that but it's a play it as it goes thing.

So you know, in most cities that have fight threads like this, they usually start out with a lot of fuck you's then they settle down and become more social with the occasional fuck you asshole thrown in.

A2

Admin2
07-23-15, 14:00
Well, I don't know if it's really right or wrong that CookyJar posts explicit photos of women but I do know that it is causing his erectile dysfunction. Recent data and studies have shown that excessive viewing of porn can cause erectile dysfunction. There is a growing number of guys even at the college age who is experiencing erectile dysfunction from porn addiction or excessive viewing.

The male brain can become desensitized with constant nude images of the female and it becomes harder to get really excited once he sees an actual nude female. Studies have also shown that if a male stops seeing these digital images, over time his brain adjusts back to the old way and naturally gets excited over an actual female, thus his erection returns.

I'm not saying that CookyJar is wrong for posting these digital images of explicit nature but if he were to stop looking at these naked photos for a few months or maybe a year, when he comes to a point of seeing an actual naked girl, his erection will automatically be strong and he would not need Viagra any more.Down here in Buenos Aires I'm probably banging 70-90 different chicks a year and I RARELY look at porn anymore. This same thing can happen when you have a near limitless number of young hotties you can fuck.

That's one of the ways you know life is good. When you think, "I haven't looked at any porn and spanked it in months" then you do it as a novelty.

A2.

Waldo58
08-01-15, 14:09
Ya you have posted her pics once or twice over the years. The search engine on this site leaves much to be desired.Yes, she's well known to those of us who pick up attractive girls and enjoy their skills and personalities, as opposed to those who snap a porno "set" of the girl's asshole and other body parts and then forget their names and everything about them. I dated Jamie when she was new to Abdul's stable and found her a bit tense, but a nice person to talk to and a willing provider. I wish her well and pine for the days when the K and Ontario had the likes of Jamie, Brittney, redheaded Nicole and Holly strolling near Abdul's front door.

The search engine works fine if you take time off from collecting photos and learn to use the advanced feature.

Morkun
08-02-15, 13:45
Down here in Buenos Aires I'm probably banging 70-90 different chicks a year

A2.How could you do that? Can you share some experience? How to find or identify the right girl?

NvrStlPhilly
09-08-15, 13:30
LOL. You have got to me kidding.

No offense but apparently you have no idea of what a girl/women is. There but for the grace of chance...they are all the same. A shower, a little make-up, a meal or two and they all are the same. The job, the location does not make the female. Over the years I have known quite a few girls who worked as escorts, dancers and Backpage girls. I've known some who went back and forth between the street and their stripper jobs.

Might I point out that you are the only one continuously mentioning a comparison between job descriptions and those girl who are actually available. What the hell is a Hooters girl anyway? Does working at Hooters make a girl special, super human, a star beyond approach? I've seen a lot of shanks on BackPage, in stripper bars and there are probably some shanks working for hooter.

(I have never been to a hooters, I am not into chicken wings and I have been told that is the only available take out at Hooters.).

I would be very interested in seeing a few pictures of you pass wives and girlfriends so that I might compare them and thereby understand better your point of view. In other words, put-up or shut-up, no offense intended.

CookyJar.You portray that these woman are "hot" and "sexy" in their sensuous poses. If you want to make statements of this sort then other members should be able to contradict without being thrashed. The women are fair at best. Featured women are quick CHEAP fun. The downtrodden street walker or hood rat are much desired to the yokels but some others may not be a buyer. SW's that are featured in your pics are not Vega, LA, or Atlantic City quality. I doubt if any would even be able to get into higher end porn in California. A much better selection are found in local strip joints. Remember OTC requires more than $ 50 dollars when outside the street walker arena.

Let's have fun but please don't idolize the K and A talent.

NvrStlPhilly
09-08-15, 14:54
You portray that these woman are "hot" and "sexy" in their sensuous poses. If you want to make statements of this sort then other members should be able to contradict without being thrashed. The women are fair at best. Featured women are quick CHEAP fun. The downtrodden street walker or hood rat are much desired to the yokels but some others may not be a buyer. SW's that are featured in your pics are not Vega, LA, or Atlantic City quality. I doubt if any would even be able to get into higher end porn in California. A much better selection are found in local strip joints. Remember OTC requires more than $ 50 dollars when outside the street walker arena.

Let's have fun but please don't idolize the K and A talent.I understand all of the above have skanks but they are avoided by the distinguished gentleman. They are the bathroom BJ girls or when having a Bachelor party they are the BJ girl. The more upscale ones provide fantasy only. A CJ model may give head as the customer closes his eyes to the more of a cover girl. Take Ms. CJ 20? And hold next to Victoria Secret 20 XXX. Only a chump will say hey CJ girls are better. Money talks my Brother. You don't have the game or cash for the big leagues. Your girls are the circus; that's all. Your pics will never make Playboy or the big leagues. See you at KFC for big bucket to further discuss. I hope we can meet after ssi checks run out.

CookyJar
09-08-15, 15:08
You portray that these woman are "hot" and "sexy" in their sensuous poses. If you want to make statements of this sort then other members should be able to contradict without being thrashed. The women are fair at best. Featured women are quick CHEAP fun. The downtrodden street walker or hood rat are much desired to the yokels but some others may not be a buyer. SW's that are featured in your pics are not Vega, LA, or Atlantic City quality. I doubt if any would even be able to get into higher end porn in California. A much better selection are found in local strip joints. Remember OTC requires more than $ 50 dollars when outside the street walker arena.
Let's have fun but please don't idolize the K and A talent.I portray them as, "Hot" and "Sexy," women because they are hot and sexy. You are the only one who seems to think otherwise. No one else is complaining.

You have been going around calling not just mine but other member's girls all kinds of demeaning names. And! The minute you are called on it, you cry thrashed. Who the hell thrashed you? What the hell is Vega, LA or Atlantic quality? Who said anything about getting into Higher end porn in California? What the hell are you talking about? You are making up arguments against stuff no one ever claimed.

You don't like the looks of the girls I feature. You think they are all shanks, downtrodden and hood rats that's just your point of view, your opinion. That is your prerogative. You are welcome to it. I for one could care less. I know better.

It is easy to point out the flaws in the other guys pictures while denying them the opportunity to challenge some picture of yours for comparison. You are making claims without proof. Prove to me that my girls aren't Hooter's quality. Show me the proof that Hooter's wouldn't hire Mackenzie. Show me the proof that Nikki couldn't do porn. Tell me why Alexus cannot be on Backpage. Where are the pictures of the hot and sexy women in your life? Put up or shut-up.

(You don't have to shut-up. It would be nice if you would stop the unfair comparisons. Just say they've ugly and let it go at that.).

Bullshit ain't nothing.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
09-08-15, 15:43
I understand all of the above have skanks but they are avoided by the distinguished gentleman. They are the bathroom BJ girls or when having a Bachelor party they are the BJ girl. The more upscale ones provide fantasy only. A CJ model may give head as the customer closes his eyes to the more of a cover girl. Take Ms. CJ 20? And hold next to Victoria Secret 20 XXX. Only a chump will say hey CJ girls are better. Money talks my Brother. You don't have the game or cash for the big leagues. Your girls are the circus; that's all. Your pics will never make Playboy or the big leagues. See you at KFC for big bucket to further discuss. I hope we can meet after ssi checks run out.WTF!

Ms. CJ20? Victoria Secret 20 XXX? Playboy, big leagues, KFC, ssi! I have no idea what you're mumbling about.

Okay! I get it now. NvrStlPhilly, step away from the bar, put the joint down. You are quoting yourself. Go sleep this one off and maybe we can talk again tomorrow.

CookyJar.

NvrStlPhilly
09-08-15, 15:52
WTF!

Ms. CJ20? Victoria Secret 20 XXX? Playboy, big leagues, KFC, ssi! I have no idea what you're mumbling about.

Okay! I get it now. NvrStlPhilly, step away from the bar, put the joint down. You are quoting yourself. Go sleep this one off and maybe we can talk again tomorrow.

CookyJar.The women are fair typical street walkers. In your psychosis / Alzheimer / dementia mind they are cream of the crop. That's all. See reality brother. STD skanks, toothless, worn out 3rd fiddle girls. BYE CJ. You sell to the degenerates and NOT the upscale.

Bye for good.

P.S. Post picture of yourself so we can equivocate; meaning a typical no-ass getting chump. If you were truly handsome or desirable you wouldn't be with the skanks. You would be with an above average women and not even hitting the ave for dirt balls.

NvrStlPhilly
09-08-15, 15:59
Whether is Charlie Sheen, or the boys of Hollywood including Justin Bieber we all have fun. The only difference is we do not admit or promote these women. We keep quiet and go home to our super model wives. Unlike CJ who brags he is a skank lover and shows to the public the skanks he was with!

Ethol
09-08-15, 19:02
Don't let her see your change (money). Just give the basics and hide the rest. I would avoid at any cost! One of the those girls who have to get in the mood by stopping a DD, stopping to cop and all the other BS instead of quick business.

She ran up to my car window at a very busy intersection in broad day light!

I was working but she will flag you down.Mostly all the sws will just look at you as their walking atm. They figure if they see it it is theres. So anything laying around your car is fair game to their thinking.

MrChill
09-08-15, 21:50
Yeh ok see pics. CJ you never got a sober white girl in your day which is why you cruise the ave for suicidal drug addicts (white trash). Night CJ.

Please I want a street walker (ex CJ bottom girl) to be in my magazine. I need to search ghetto and all known drug lord corners to find you. CJ will drop off personally for 5 pictures and $ 10 dollars. Me I have new BMW and parked at Ontario and Kensington to wait for you my love !!!Opinions are like Assholes. Everyones got one. In this case you seem to be acting like one.

ALL of your "posts" we're a quick read and lack any value whatsoever. I would say perhaps that the first 3/4 posts had promise but you seem to have crossed over to the Dark side of Cynicism and miss the concept of sharing something of "substance" on here with others. It looked like you had an interest in AMPs at one point and I respect that. Not my thing but that's why it's an open forum with choices for all of us.

You mention that you have a cover girl model wife. Good for you. Yet perhaps you can do us all a big favor and give us all a few examples of pictures of the ladies that you happen to be bedding down so we can raise our "standards" to rub shoulders with someone so Elite as you.

I like the expression "If you want us to Kiss your Ass then walk around with No pants on". Seems fitting here.

Maybe a nap would help and then you can be allowed to come back to the Playground if you think you can play nicely this time.

MrChill.

NvrStlPhilly
09-09-15, 13:39
Opinions are like Assholes. Everyones got one. In this case you seem to be acting like one.

ALL of your "posts" we're a quick read and lack any value whatsoever. I would say perhaps that the first 3/4 posts had promise but you seem to have crossed over to the Dark side of Cynicism and miss the concept of sharing something of "substance" on here with others. It looked like you had an interest in AMPs at one point and I respect that. Not my thing but that's why it's an open forum with choices for all of us.

You mention that you have a cover girl model wife. Good for you. Yet perhaps you can do us all a big favor and give us all a few examples of pictures of the ladies that you happen to be bedding down so we can raise our "standards" to rub shoulders with someone so Elite as you.

I like the expression "If you want us to Kiss your Ass then walk around with No pants on". Seems fitting here.

Maybe a nap would help and then you can be allowed to come back to the Playground if you think you can play nicely this time.

MrChill.I am simply stating that CJ girls are way overrated. I look at my development (home) and don't see this type of women anywhere. Hey, I love all; skank, beauty, short, tall, big, skinny etc.

I am just stating that most of the women are bottom of the barrel. That's all. Hey, I would still be with them all but let's face reality.

Waldo58
09-09-15, 20:48
I support NvrStlPhilly in what he's saying. This has been going on since the day the un-lovely Sabrina was pushed on us as being a quality find. And I'll say this again until I'm blue in the face:

It does no good to post 15 photos of an average-looking girl, 10 of which highlight the crack in her ass. If it were the mission of this forum to provide visual aids for bi-sexual men to masturbate from, I might think differently. But the mission of this forum to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.

NiviThree
09-09-15, 21:44
I am a little lost reading some of the recent posts. My take is that different guys are into different things and most of us play different aspects of who we are in different neighborhoods with different people?

And those people look and seem to act differently. But none of them are all that and so absorbing our minds and lusts and interests and needs otherwise we would not be on the site?

So far seems like violent agreement has broken out all over about this BBGOTFO. (Big Blinding Glimpse Of The Fucking Obvious).

As for someone who both reports realistic street life and street people and flatters / glamorizes their subjects at the same time. Uh. That's found in Chaucer, Euripides, Shakespeare, Bosch, Toulouse Latrec, a Picasso, and photographers of street life like Henri Carter Bresson, Robert Frank, Gary Winograd, Jay Meyerwitz, and on and on. Let's not pretend that CookyJar is into a sub niche never found as a human interest ever before.

I dunno. We are into different things. Why put someone else down leaving ones own weird edges exposed in comparative hypocrisy. "I'm so messed up I have a supermodel wife but am so bored unfulfilled and overpaying for the priveledge I risk all that to get other things but at least I label them accurately. And that other guy doesn't?

Guys like all internet fights we reveal more about ourselves than we wish. There is a really interesting study that showed that people most recognize and are sensitive to and get mad at qualities they see in others they don't like yet hide about themselves.

AaronBoy
09-10-15, 01:40
Damm I haven't been on here for a while, but it looks like shit done heated up again. Well all I can say is WE are all guilty of.

EXPLOITING the most VULNERABLE of them out in this jungle. I just think certain individuals take it a step further in their exploits. Not knocking you Cooky, but when you say all of these women are dime pieces, it really makes me wonder what type of person you are. Because I would say that most of the girls you photo are addicts. They are extremely vulnerable. Now if they were straight up chicks who at least weren't addicts, I could agree with you on that assesment, but we all know they are all addicts, who will do almost ANYTHING for a few dollars. You seem like an intelligent man so you know that it's a difference in a women who is an addict versus one who isn't. Not judging you but lets be real about that assessment. If you were doing what you do with non-addicts, would you have been able to take as many pictures as you have, an post them for the world to see. I don't think so. And I think you know that. Just to let you know the knd of person I am, I was in south jersey a few weeks ago and ran in to Kia, one of you exploits. I wanted to fuck her bad after seeing the photos you had taken of her. But she was so fucking spaced out of her head, I couldn't do it. She was just to fucked up. My conscious would'nt let me take advantage of her being in such a vulnerable state. So to make a long story short, it is a difference when you meet a straight up sober chick that's not high or doesn't even get high, versus meeting a vulnerable addict. They are not the same. Both female, but not the same. I do get where you're you coming from when you say that they are all dimes though.

A.

AaronBoy
09-10-15, 02:07
I am a little lost reading some of the recent posts. My take is that different guys are into different things and most of us play different aspects of who we are in different neighborhoods with different people?

And those people look and seem to act differently. But none of them are all that and so absorbing our minds and lusts and interests and needs otherwise we would not be on the site?

So far seems like violent agreement has broken out all over about this BBGOTFO. (Big Blinding Glimpse Of The Fucking Obvious).

As for someone who both reports realistic street life and street people and flatters / glamorizes their subjects at the same time. Uh. That's found in Chaucer, Euripides, Shakespeare, Bosch, Toulouse Latrec, a Picasso, and photographers of street life like Henri Carter Bresson, Robert Frank, Gary Winograd, Jay Meyerwitz, and on and on. Let's not pretend that CookyJar is into a sub niche never found as a human interest ever before.

I dunno. We are into different things. Why put someone else down leaving ones own weird edges exposed in comparative hypocrisy. "I'm so messed up I have a supermodel wife but am so bored unfulfilled and overpaying for the priveledge I risk all that to get other things but at least I label them accurately. And that other guy doesn't?

Guys like all internet fights we reveal more about ourselves than we wish. There is a really interesting study that showed that people most recognize and are sensitive to and get mad at qualities they see in others they don't like yet hide about themselves.I agree with you sir. Sometime we get caugt up in the labeling of others, that we tend to forget that we are all on the same cruiseship. So if its a fucked up ship, then why are we still cruising. For me this site has been a temporary escape from my reality, which I'm pretty sure it is for most of us. What I've 'learned is that everybody on this cruise will see things different from time to time. When that happens we go below deck, duke the shit out, and hopefully get back to the cruise, which is the purpose I hope. Lets not forget, we all buy pussy on the cruise from time to time. Just hopefully its not the only way we can get it.

A.

NvrStlPhilly
09-10-15, 07:21
Mostly all the sws will just look at you as their walking atm. They figure if they see it it is theres. So anything laying around your car is fair game to their thinking.Same way with strippers!

Glockman
09-10-15, 12:31
Can some of you moaners and groaners explain to me what I am missing. Several of you are complaining about the photos of streetwalkers that CJ posts on his board. Some of you say that they are skanks and that they don't look like Hooter Girls. Some of you say it is a waste of time to post 10 to 15 pictures of a streetwalker's ass and that the purpose of the forum is to exchange information between men who are looking for sex with women. Some of you say that CJ refers to women as "dime pieces" although I cannot find a post where CJ has used that term. And some of you I just can't figure out what your problem is other than his board keeps you awake at night. Here is what I can't figure out and I need some of you to explain what the fuck I am missing. His board is called CookyJar’s Streetwalker Photos is it not? It's not called CookyJar's Hooter Girl's Photos. It's not called CookyJar's Victoria Secret Girl Photos. It's not called CookyJar's One or Two Photos of Streetwalkers. It's not even called CookyJar's Review of Streetwalkers to Exchange Information Between Men Who Are Looking For Sex With Women. It's called STREETWALKER Photos. So what the fuck do you expect when you go there? Photos of Playboy Playmates? Photos of the average girl walking down the street? You expect to find photos of streetwalkers. And you must have a hell of a lot of them because you have three boards dedicated to them. And as A2 has pointed out, his board is not a review site. You guys remind me of the joke about the old lady who called the police complaining about her next door neighbor who got undressed in front of his window without him closing the blind. When the police got there the policeman told the old lady, "I can't see anyone from this window. " The old lady said, "you can if you climb up that stepladder over there!" So why are you guys climbing the stepladder? Can some of you explain that to me?

Waldo58
09-10-15, 14:48
Good analogy with the stepladder, Glockman.

As much as anything, I mount that stepladder to add to my quest to see everything that is said about the SW's where I troll. As mentioned, I don't need the 10 ass-crack photos for that, but occasionally there may be a relevant comment or two that is made.

So the problem for me, in addition to the idiodic asshole porn, is the attitude and made-up stories I have to wade through in case there's a nugget to be found.

Glockman
09-11-15, 10:03
Good analogy with the stepladder, Glockman.

As much as anything, I mount that stepladder to add to my quest to see everything that is said about the SW's where I troll. As mentioned, I don't need the 10 ass-crack photos for that, but occasionally there may be a relevant comment or two that is made.

So the problem for me, in addition to the idiodic asshole porn, is the attitude and made-up stories I have to wade through in case there's a nugget to be found.Well, that's pretty much makes my point. CJ's board (or thread, whatever it's called) is his and his alone. Its purpose is to post his photos of streetwalkers. It is not a review board and its purpose is not to provide nuggets. Nevertheless, if a nugget does come up from time to time then you just have to wade through 10 pics of ass crack and made-up stories to get them. If it weren't for 10 pics of ass crack or made up stories, then his board may dry up for lack of interest. Apparently a lot of guys like 10 pics of ass crack and made up stories. Apparently a small number of guy's don't. So why climb the stepladder? Just stay on the ground. When I was in the army a long time ago we had a saying, "don't piss in the soup, we've all got to eat!" Some of you guys are pissing in the soup.

Waldo58
09-11-15, 17:17
Every thread on here is an ingredient in that soup. If one cook doesn't conform to the recipe, clearly stated in the mission statement, then he is the one pissing in the wrong place.

Beefy Joe
09-11-15, 21:34
Ignore this freek NvrstPhilly all his posts are bogus, except 1 about A steak place. No reviews and repeating of what others have said in other post. He describes 1 of your girls as having a few tats that you can see in one of your pic. P maybe you should use photo shop like those hooter girls LOL. I come here from West of Baltimore because I like your thread. If you're in Baltimore and need Klara number or a mild utr let me know. Let's go WR and Br new season I No I will get a lot of shit for that Joe.

Glockman
09-11-15, 21:38
Every thread on here is an ingredient in that soup. If one cook doesn't conform to the recipe, clearly stated in the mission statement, then he is the one pissing in the wrong place.I give up. You are hopeless. There must be something in the water in Philadelphia. Have you thought about why you are banned from ever posting on CJ's board. Think about it. Stop drinking the water! I give up. I can't deal with idiots. Just my thing. I will not respond to your rebuttal. It would be a waste of bandwidth.

Inncogneatoe
09-11-15, 22:57
Every thread on here is an ingredient in that soup. If one cook doesn't conform to the recipe, clearly stated in the mission statement, then he is the one pissing in the wrong place.I am lost. Would you show me what you are talking about? I am new and not aware of the mission statement. Could you please tell me where it is located, I would like to read it.

Yours fatefully,

Inncogneatoe.

Glockman
09-11-15, 23:17
I am out of here. CJ doesn't need me to come to his defense. But there are a few of you fuckheads that have no idea of the trouble that the trouble that we photographers have in putting together a photo shoot. You have no idea how hard it is or how expensive it is. You couldn't do it if your life depended on it. So shut the fuck up unless you can do better.

Waldo57
09-12-15, 01:07
I give up.

There must be something in the water in Philadelphia.

Think about it. Stop drinking the water! I give up. I can't deal with idiots. Have you ever really hung out in Philly extensively? Philly has some of the most dysfunctional freaks and even the dumbest people in America. Try to argue with Eagles fans. They are also some of the dumbest group of people. The average Eagles fan has an IQ of 70. It's not bad but it's also that not stellar.

Even at the famous Geno's Steaks, there is a sign that you have to speak English. The idiot Joey Vento thinks English is being threatened even if it's already the international language. Even though I love Philly, it's seriously the city of morons.

Waldo58
09-12-15, 08:59
I am lost. Would you show me what you are talking about? I am new and not aware of the mission statement. Could you please tell me where it is located, I would like to read it.

Yours fatefully,

Inncogneatoe.Click FAQ at the top of your screen. It is the first entry under General Questions and is displayed in bright red.

Waldo58
09-12-15, 09:17
I am out of here. CJ doesn't need me to come to his defense. But there are a few of you fuckheads that have no idea of the trouble that the trouble that we photographers have in putting together a photo shoot. You have no idea how hard it is or how expensive it is. You couldn't do it if your life depended on it. So shut the fuck up unless you can do better.I have no doubt that putting together a photo shoot is difficult and requires skill and money. That's not the point. The point is that there are tons of porno sites out there. Offer your wares to them. This is not a porn site.

Admin2
09-12-15, 11:17
I have no doubt that putting together a photo shoot is difficult and requires skill and money. That's not the point. The point is that there are tons of porno sites out there. Offer your wares to them. This is not a porn site.This is in blue, it's me the mod not the guy asking.

CJ is into photos, OBVIOUSLY he has a following. He has a thread that keeps all that content separate from the review threads so you have to make an affirmative decision to view the content. You can't see it, nor have to wade through it by accident, you have to preform an action by not only clicking, but looking for the thread. Avoiding is could not be easier. By giving it it's own thread we keep the review threads more focused for guys that are here for the primary purpose.

I guess the question is, if it's so easy to avoid, why are you even having this discussion?

A2

Waldo58
09-12-15, 12:20
This is in blue, it's me the mod not the guy asking.

CJ is into photos, OBVIOUSLY he has a following. He has a thread that keeps all that content separate from the review threads so you have to make an affirmative decision to view the content. You can't see it, nor have to wade through it by accident, you have to preform an action by not only clicking, but looking for the thread. Avoiding is could not be easier. By giving it it's own thread we keep the review threads more focused for guys that are here for the primary purpose.

I guess the question is, if it's so easy to avoid, why are you even having this discussion?

A2Good afternoon Admin2, and thank you for providing this site to allow us seekers of sex with women the opportunity to exchange information with like-minded men.

I will concede that one or two of the photos in the porno "sets" are useful information. Fifteen shots of the same woman, however, with the gleeful focus on her ass cheeks, are not helpful at all. The photographer obviously is not a seeker of sex, despite some prurient obviously made-up tales. He appears to be very proud of his artistic work in photography and is using this free website to show it off and store it.

The reason I seek out his thread is that I want every snippet of information about the streetwalkers on the street where I troll for sex. The photo thread draws voyeurs from far and wide and they for the most part add nothing but "wow" to the conversation. But there are occasionally people who have encountered the streetwalkers in question, and they will drop a nugget of information. Even the photographer occasionally mentions a personality characteristic that I find helpful. So I am resigned to wading through the bullshit (15 photos, made-up stories, "wow"s) to find those nuggets.

The local forum became more enjoyable and easier to navigate after another streetwalker photo artist was outed and his thread closed. Reports and relevant comments found their rightful place again in the Streetwalker Reports thread. I don't mind toggling back and forth between two threads to obtain the full body of information, but it sure would be easier and more in keeping with our purpose here if the excessive 15 porn shots were reduced to a useful one or two and the BS stories, rants, and philosophical discussions were surpressed.

NiviThree
09-12-15, 16:47
Are you sure?

In some threads and posts and intents it might be more of a violation of community mores and taboos than what used to be known as porn.

"To be outside the law you must be honest". I am not sure anyone who posts here has a holier than thou leg to stand on. A highly developed ability to rationalize would seem a common denominator.

Time to move on from this topic?

Admin2
09-12-15, 18:27
The reason I seek out his thread is that I want every snippet of information about the streetwalkers on the street where I troll for sex. The photo thread draws voyeurs from far and wide and they for the most part add nothing but "wow" to the conversation. But there are occasionally people who have encountered the streetwalkers in question, and they will drop a nugget of information. Even the photographer occasionally mentions a personality characteristic that I find helpful. So I am resigned to wading through the bullshit (15 photos, made-up stories, "wow"s) to find those nuggets.I felt this was the crux of your response, I'm not trying to go Fox News on you and quote you out of context.

If there is enough info there to make it worth your time to wade through what you think of as garbage but seems to be popular with the majority of members who interact on that thread then that's a choice you make so no use winging about it. If it's not, then save yourself some frustration and stop. In any event, the thread isn't going away, it's serving it's purpose exactly as it was intended.

This bit isn't in blue, this is me the guy, I think you just like fighting. That's ok, keep it on the fight thread and we are good.

A2.

Glockman
09-12-15, 22:38
. . . Even though I love Philly, it's seriously the city of morons.Yes. You have made that perfectly clear.

MrChill
09-13-15, 00:49
Good afternoon Admin2, and thank you for providing this site to allow us seekers of sex with women the opportunity to exchange information with like-minded men.

I will concede that one or two of the photos in the porno "sets" are useful information. Fifteen shots of the same woman, however, with the gleeful focus on her ass cheeks, are not helpful at all. The photographer obviously is not a seeker of sex, despite some prurient obviously made-up tales. He appears to be very proud of his artistic work in photography and is using this free website to show it off and store it.

The reason I seek out his thread is that I want every snippet of information about the streetwalkers on the street where I troll for sex. The photo thread draws voyeurs from far and wide and they for the most part add nothing but "wow" to the conversation. But there are occasionally people who have encountered the streetwalkers in question, and they will drop a nugget of information. Even the photographer occasionally mentions a personality characteristic that I find helpful. So I am resigned to wading through the bullshit (15 photos, made-up stories, "wow"s) to find those nuggets.

The local forum became more enjoyable and easier to navigate after another streetwalker photo artist was outed and his thread closed. Reports and relevant comments found their rightful place again in the Streetwalker Reports thread. I don't mind toggling back and forth between two threads to obtain the full body of information, but it sure would be easier and more in keeping with our purpose here if the excessive 15 porn shots were reduced to a useful one or two and the BS stories, rants, and philosophical discussions were surpressed.


I have no doubt that putting together a photo shoot is difficult and requires skill and money. That's not the point. The point is that there are tons of porno sites out there. Offer your wares to them. This is not a porn site.You have a Right to voice your Opinion but.

Why are we hearing more Fucking Whining and Babbling from you?

You keep Fumbling over your words.

Just shut the Fuck Up and Look at the Photos. That's the Nature of the Thread that seems to have you in a Tizy. It's called CookyJar streetwalker photos.

I am reminded Of what was said in the Movie "A Few Good Men" by the character Colonial Nathan Jesup played by Jack and. Not going to spell his name out all the way.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

So give us your examples and pics of how a photo shoot should be done and posted. I can't wait to see it. In fact I have almost pissed myself at the idea of waiting for your Gems to appear for us to view.

This is a Forum of like minded individuals that subscribe to the idea and definition of what a "hobbiest" is. You don't seem to fit in here.

Go start your own Goddamn Website Forum and then you can make up any fricking rules you want.

MrChill.

Waldo57
09-13-15, 01:46
Yes. You have made that perfectly clear.Another thing about Philly and the north east USA is that there is a cultural difference with the rest of America. It's socially acceptable to show rudeness and being uptight. Saying hello to strangers and showing random friendliness pretty much does not exist like how you will see in other parts of America. I have met people from the mid west who refuse to return to the Philly / Jersey / New York area because of the higher percentage of douche bags compared to the rest of the country as people have told me.

I did laugh but there is truth to that especially in the Philly area. Philly was listed in a poll as one of the rudest cities in the world. Admiringly, some people do like that and find charm with that but it can get annoying at times when there are so many idiots in the city. So if you see more people fighting on this Philly forum, it's a reflection of the culture.

I know that there are some Philly people who take pride and show smugness in this culture of rudeness as with some New Yorkers too. It's a part of the east coast culture and a different America.

Waldo58
09-13-15, 14:07
So give us your examples and pics of how a photo shoot should be done and posted. I can't wait to see it.There's the problem: thinking in terms of a "photo shoot". Your words. Excessive photos from a photo shoot make for great porn, but great porn is not the purpose of the USA Sex Guide.

AaronBoy
09-13-15, 14:14
Come on fellas, everybody has gotten their jabs, hooks and uppercuts in, so lets put this bullshit to the side and keep shit moving. We don't all have to to like or agree or even see eye to eye with everyones posts, pictures or whatever. I think to much energy is going towards this bullshit. Cooky and I have had disagreements in the past, but I've chose to be a bigger man and let that bullshit fall to the sideline. My whole thing is how the fuck can I be mad with a motherfucker I don't even know personally. So saying that, today is the beginning of a new week. So lets start it out like the grown ass, mature motherfuckers we are. I will always choose peace over the bullshit. Again I've always said, if I've said shit that a motherfucker don'like, I apologize. And trust me, aint shit soft about me. So again lets choose PEACE?

A.

MrChill
09-13-15, 21:57
There's the problem: thinking in terms of a "photo shoot". Your words. Excessive photos from a photo shoot make for great porn, but great porn is not the purpose of the USA Sex Guide.Quote Originally Posted by Waldo58.

I have no doubt that putting together a photo shoot is difficult and requires skill and money. That's not the point. The point is that there are tons of porno sites out there. Offer your wares to them. This is not a porn site.

You coined the term photo shoot in a post prior to mine. Duh.

This is getting really boring watching you trip over your words. You can't even remember what you posted.

My words were more like. GO start your own Goddamn website Forum. Guess what. You can even "exclude" CookyJar since he doesn't Follow your Rules.

MC.

Inncogneatoe
09-14-15, 17:58
Click FAQ at the top of your screen. It is the first entry under General Questions and is displayed in bright red.Thank you, Waldo58.

How on earth did you find that? I would have never found that without your help.

It is a little vague. Not much of a mission statement. It does not go into any detail. To be honest I was expecting more.

Your assertion is that CookyJar is not facilitating the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. Is that your primary objection?

Inncogneatoe.

Waldo58
09-15-15, 10:47
Thank you, Waldo58.

How on earth did you find that? I would have never found that without your help.

It is a little vague. Not much of a mission statement. It does not go into any detail. To be honest I was expecting more.

Your assertion is that CookyJar is not facilitating the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. Is that your primary objection?

Inncogneatoe.My objections, primary and secondary, are contained in my previous seven posts.

Inncogneatoe
09-20-15, 13:33
My objections, primary and secondary, are contained in my previous seven posts.After reading and rereading your objections here and in the public forums, I cannot find any real rationalization for your dislike of CookyJar or his thread.

I think I am going to side with Admin 2 on this one. I think you just like fighting.

InCogNeatoe.

Gator145
09-20-15, 13:40
After reading and rereading your objections here and in the public forums, I cannot find any real rationalization for your dislike of CookyJar or his thread.

I think I am going to side with Admin 2 on this one. I think you just like fighting.

InCogNeatoe.It would seem to me if one knows what to expect from a website or page, and what they expect to find is not what they might find appealing, Why in the world would one visit that spot? I found out dead on that me and quilting had zero in common. I haven't been to a quilting site in years cause I know what to expect. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

Cephlapod Love
09-21-15, 08:34
Look at this recent post on the Philly boards!

I'm taking a trip up to Philly this Friday and anyone give me CeCe contact info or tell me where I might can find her. I'm would love to hook up with that one. Another can anyone tell me where the SW hot spots are at because I definitely want to have some fun when I get there.

Now not specifically to this poster (as I see he's a righteous dude), but what is with the guys that visit Philly? Give me, give me, give me! Then they NEVER come back and report on what they find!

But Jeez! How hard is it to look around the Philly boards and discover that the community has been so kind as to already have assembled the info you need? How hard is it to offer up something for something as a kind jesture?

I just don't get it! If we voice our dislike for all of this mindless mooching, we are deem Philly azzh*les. If we help out, there is never any reward or quid pro quo, it just seems to perpetuate the "give me, give me".

So what do others think? Should we ignore these dudes? Help them out and give them a yellow card? Smile and be as friendly and helpful as possible at all times? Sign them up for the "Guide to Philly Mongering" short course at the SE University of Mongering?

Waldo58
09-24-15, 13:47
This is a Forum of like minded individuals that (sic) subscribe to the idea and definition of what a "hobbiest" (sic) is. You don't seem to fit in here.I feel sorry for you and your photographer friend if your "hobby" is playing games that match names to assholes. In addition to being sick and perverted, your hobby is obviously gay and, as I've said a few hundred times, not in sync with the intent of this website. Not complaining, I have no problem wading through the wasteful posts of a bored old man to get to occasional useful information for the real hobbyists.

May I suggest you and your friend seek out one of those "alternative" sites? You might find more "partners" for the real hobby you're talking about, which is banned from being discussed here http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/faq.php?faq=spam_questions#faq_spam_questions. See #5.

Good luck to you both in your search.

MrChill
09-24-15, 22:27
I feel sorry for you and your photographer friend if your "hobby" is playing games that match names to assholes. In addition to being sick and perverted, your hobby is obviously gay and, as I've said a few hundred times, not in sync with the intent of this website. Not complaining, I have no problem wading through the wasteful posts of a bored old man to get to occasional useful information for the real hobbyists.

May I suggest you and your friend seek out one of those "alternative" sites? You might find more "partners" for the real hobby you're talking about, which is banned from being discussed here http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/faq.php?faq=spam_questions#faq_spam_questions. See #5.

Good luck to you both in your search.LOL, sick and perverted. I'm as straightforward as they come, LOL. But I am a crazy Pussy hunter, LOL. IMHO. There's enough Pussy out there to keep me busy for a Lifetime that I don't need to try any back door action or Greek or whatever the lingo is, LOL. But if that's what you gleaned from my "posts" then you are very entitled to your opinion my friend. Keep it in this thread and we can all continue to have a good laugh. To any of my other "friends" who post in the Greek section about women- it's your choice, go for it. Ya see. I'm soo relaxed and comfortable with what I like (and I don't mind any of the photos that other members post including the ass crack photos. As long as she has a clean ass) that I live by an motto such as "to each his own". Who the Fuck am I to Tell ANYONE here or elsewhere what is right or wrong. ? LOL, I mean really. But hey man if you like to fight. Like a number of members have said about you and including Admin said about you then by all means bro keep swinging.

MrChill.

Inncogneatoe
09-25-15, 20:23
I feel sorry for you and your photographer friend if your "hobby" is playing games that match names to assholes. In addition to being sick and perverted, your hobby is obviously gay and, as I've said a few hundred times, not in sync with the intent of this website. Not complaining, I have no problem wading through the wasteful posts of a bored old man to get to occasional useful information for the real hobbyists.

May I suggest you and your friend seek out one of those "alternative" sites? You might find more "partners" for the real hobby you're talking about, which is banned from being discussed here http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/faq.php?faq=spam_questions#faq_spam_questions. See #5.

Good luck to you both in your search.Maybe you should be concerned about your own latten homosexual tendencies.

When I looked at the bent over ladies, showing off their bare buttocks, I saw shapely females and my mind turned immediately to thoughts of the poplar doggie style position. You however went in a totally different direction. You somehow equated female posteriors with males.

Either you were just looking for something to argue about or fears of your own latten homosexuality are haunting you.

InnCogNeatoe.

Waldo58
09-26-15, 09:30
Maybe you should be concerned about your own latten homosexual tendencies.

When I looked at the bent over ladies, showing off their bare buttocks, I saw shapely females and my mind turned immediately to thoughts of the poplar doggie style position. You however went in a totally different direction. You somehow equated female posteriors with males.

Either you were just looking for something to argue about or fears of your own latten homosexuality are haunting you.

InnCogNeatoe.I can't believe you and your boy toy from Toledo are getting it off by playing some inane game that matches names to assholes. I feel sorry for you both and for your idol, the elderly bored one.

P.S. Where is Toledo anyway? Is that a suburb of Jenkintown? ROFLMAO.

Cephlapod Love
10-06-15, 10:53
Here ya go Milfs. She's bigger than this picture for sure! Not as advertised, sigh.

Wouldn't touch that. Not with a 10-foot pole! You gots an 11-foot one?

don't nobody email 'bout dis one, already puked twice.

Heehaightmee
10-07-15, 18:33
Here ya go Milfs. She's bigger than this picture for sure! Not as advertised, sigh.

Wouldn't touch that. Not with a 10-foot pole! You gots an 11-foot one?

don't nobody email 'bout dis one, already puked twice.Her blowjob skills might be out of this world! The bigger ones try harder, right?

Waldo58
10-16-15, 21:00
Angela remains one of my ATFs. When it comes to looks and personality, Angela is damn near perfect. It's so hard to pass on perfection. So whenever I see her, I swoop her up.

CookyJar.Very nice specimen indeed, monger on!

Enjoy your post and photos, nice from one monger carnisour to another, cock salute!Obviously some people here are confusing mongering with pornography. Here we have yet another streetwalker report without any details about pickup location or sexual activity involved, responded to by an out-of-towner who has no idea what a monger is. LOL. Happy masturbating, guys!

Cephlapod Love
10-17-15, 13:56
Obviously some people here are confusing mongering with pornography. Here we have yet another streetwalker report without any details about pickup location or sexual activity involved, responded to by an out-of-towner who has no idea what a monger is. LOL. Happy masturbating, guys!

Jeez, dude. Slow fast ball, middle of the plate, belt high; just could not resist!

You titled your post:

What is a monger? Uh, I dunno.

Jeez, with little apparent experience, it doesn't surprise me that you don't know what a monger is, seems like one might be more familiar with the definition of a whiner?

I'm just sayin'.

NiviThree
10-17-15, 14:13
So predictable. Seems like jealousy or a crush unrequited. Please tell us why you care? She was picked up on Kensington would be the logical assumption. Hell some of CookyJar posts tell you what end or sub area. Or maybe the girls don't want bitter guys like you to find them.

And guess what? Anyone would tell you the pictures from camden come from what location? Maybe a secret location called Broadway?

So like does that help?. Kensington in Philadelphia and Broadway in Camden are the locations girls who pose are found.

And if this is all because CookyJar did your session on a day you were bloated. Ask him to apologize via PM. Thanks.

Waldo58
10-17-15, 18:21
Out of the ballpark, Cephlapod. No one around here seems to know what mongering is. Apparently it involves picking up a streetwalker, taking photos of her, not touching or having any sex with her, not reporting where she was located, posting her photos, and waiting for compliments from out-of-town masturbators. If that's mongering, then it's pretty pathetic, and I feel sorry for the photographer / masturbator.

Cephlapod Love
10-17-15, 23:23
Out of the ballpark, Cephlapod. No one around here seems to know what mongering is. Apparently it involves picking up a streetwalker, taking photos of her, not touching or having any sex with her, not reporting where she was located, posting her photos, and waiting for compliments from out-of-town masturbators. If that's mongering, then it's pretty pathetic, and I feel sorry for the photographer / masturbator.Come on Waldo. The best way to "beat" the meat beaters is to show you are better then they are by picking up a few girls of your own, F'in the h*ll out of them and then reporting on it here! Even better "revenge" if you find one of the subjects of the photographer, and you describe all of the sordid details of how you (as Steve Martin woulda say) "used and degraded her. ".

Rise above the rest. Show 'them how it is really done.

Cephlapod Love
10-23-15, 11:53
Dude has no posts shows up and starts talking about some special service only available in Ohio.

When asked to explain what he means, so others can help, the dude acts like a douche. Too secret to even post on these threads? Huh? WTF?

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4140-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=2658839&viewfull=1#post2658839. #2306

LOL sorry to be so cryptic but what I'm after is frowned upon. Warren AMPs are famous like Honalulu AMPs, and Smile in Dallas for this service.

Jeez dude. You are doing a great job of building a positive reputation here! Start off with "give me" then say "it's too secret"?

Cephlapod Love
10-27-15, 11:33
Goodness! When I see this kind of response I wonder. I sure hope this isn't over confidence, hubris or lack of knowledge that leads to statements like this? Maybe we are on cross purposes and talking about a couple of different scenarios?

Hey it is just that EASY

>>>>>Quote Originally Posted by CephlapodLove (View Original Post)

I think what he means is that there are often LE Stings on BP and the KOP area seems to be a prime target area. Also, it is "Election Season" and history has shown that quality of life issues tend to get more attention in these parts during this particular season. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Happy hunting!<<<<<

A street walker maybe arrested 15 times but a BP girl or stripper to be arrested very rare. My friend works as stripper hooker for 23 years now and never blew a traffic light. Hey I am a stripper. Which means I meet you at the club for say 10 times and then I give you my number after I really know you; I don't need you because they are 20 horny guys behind you gawking at me,. Cops don't send undercover cops to go to say Risqu 45 times to catch a stripper giving out phone number and then meeting at hotel. Look a SW is walking the most notorious hooker area in broad day light and then actually waives to you and jumps in car. Being a LEO 101 what an easy catch. Ever watch dumbest criminals?

I think what the discussion centered on was a visitor and wanting knowledge about the KOP area. Lots of posts on BP in the KOP area. Also, has been known that KOP area cops have run sting operations. So the caution was toward having a jaundiced eye at BP posts from KOP.

Yeah, I can not see LE working a strip club for a long time unless there is something else to be investigated. Only way that works is if there is a girl soliciting every Tom, Dick & Harry. Then it might make sense for LE to send an undercover in to get the girl to solicit him.

But do not discount the potential for LE to use BP as a means to snare mongers! Hey, there is a series, which I think is called "Sex Slaves" that airs on some cable channel (National Geo, History, Discovery? Sure the primary purpose is to highlight white slavery and how it occurs. However, there were more than a few episodes where LE went after the Johns. Standard operating procedure was to set up in a hotel, advertise on BP and have as many dudes come to them as possible in the shortest period of time. They actually showed redacted BP adverts and they showed the female LE arranging dates, What I found particularly interesting is that the LE was talking about sex acts (no anal, yes to BJs, BBFS available for extra) AND quoting a price for those services. Think about it. Without any recording of an offer for sex for money, one is in a "he said, she said" situation when it comes to a claim of entrapment.

But hey, over the years I have seen on the Philly TV news, a perp walk or two of guys caught up in a sting at a motel. All that was reported was that the guys responded to an "on line" advert.

Key point in all of this is the cost benefit / cost effectiveness of a sting operation. Solicitation is a misdemeanor charge, and setting up one of these requires a mini mobile command center which means a bunch of resources; read $$ So vice needs to demonstrate to management that they captured more than just a few mongers to make it worth it. Another technique they will use is to ask you to bring party favors. Those are usually felony charges that don't go away easily and in some cases carry mandatory minimum time. I'm sure many of these invite the TV News along as a way to sensationalize the issue and for its deterrence value.

So how does one stay safe on BP? Here is the best advice I have been able to scrape together over the years:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?13919-My-Suggestions.-Rules-For-BackPage&p=2394419&viewfull=1#post2394419.

Good luck & stay safe!

NvrStlPhilly
10-27-15, 13:02
Goodness! When I see this kind of response I wonder. I sure hope this isn't over confidence, hubris or lack of knowledge that leads to statements like this? Maybe we are on cross purposes and talking about a couple of different scenarios?

Hey it is just that EASY

>>>>>Quote Originally Posted by CephlapodLove (View Original Post)

I think what he means is that there are often LE Stings on BP and the KOP area seems to be a prime target area. Also, it is "Election Season" and history has shown that quality of life issues tend to get more attention in these parts during this particular season. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Happy hunting!<<<<<

A street walker maybe arrested 15 times but a BP girl or stripper to be arrested very rare. My friend works as stripper hooker for 23 years now and never blew a traffic light. Hey I am a stripper. Which means I meet you at the club for say 10 times and then I give you my number after I really know you; I don't need you because they are 20 horny guys behind you gawking at me,. Cops don't send undercover cops to go to say Risqu 45 times to catch a stripper giving out phone number and then meeting at hotel. Look a SW is walking the most notorious hooker area in broad day light and then actually waives to you and jumps in car. Being a LEO 101 what an easy catch. Ever watch dumbest criminals?

I think what the discussion centered on was a visitor and wanting knowledge about the KOP area. Lots of posts on BP in the KOP area. Also, has been known that KOP area cops have run sting operations. So the caution was toward having a jaundiced eye at BP posts from KOP.

Yeah, I can not see LE working a strip club for a long time unless there is something else to be investigated. Only way that works is if there is a girl soliciting every Tom, Dick & Harry. Then it might make sense for LE to send an undercover in to get the girl to solicit him.

But do not discount the potential for LE to use BP as a means to snare mongers! Hey, there is a series, which I think is called "Sex Slaves" that airs on some cable channel (National Geo, History, Discovery? Sure the primary purpose is to highlight white slavery and how it occurs. However, there were more than a few episodes where LE went after the Johns. Standard operating procedure was to set up in a hotel, advertise on BP and have as many dudes come to them as possible in the shortest period of time. They actually showed redacted BP adverts and they showed the female LE arranging dates, What I found particularly interesting is that the LE was talking about sex acts (no anal, yes to BJs, BBFS available for extra) AND quoting a price for those services. Think about it. Without any recording of an offer for sex for money, one is in a "he said, she said" situation when it comes to a claim of entrapment.

But hey, over the years I have seen on the Philly TV news, a perp walk or two of guys caught up in a sting at a motel. All that was reported was that the guys responded to an "on line" advert.

Key point in all of this is the cost benefit / cost effectiveness of a sting operation. Solicitation is a misdemeanor charge, and setting up one of these requires a mini mobile command center which means a bunch of resources; read $$ So vice needs to demonstrate to management that they captured more than just a few mongers to make it worth it. Another technique they will use is to ask you to bring party favors. Those are usually felony charges that don't go away easily and in some cases carry mandatory minimum time. I'm sure many of these invite the TV News along as a way to sensationalize the issue and for its deterrence value.

So how does one stay safe on BP? Here is the best advice I have been able to scrape together over the years:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?13919-My-Suggestions.-Rules-For-BackPage&p=2394419&viewfull=1#post2394419.

Good luck & stay safe!Hey I personally don't do BP. I don't like some of the areas and especially meeting at roach motels. My friend was busted at AMP. They made him stand naked until the raid was over. They asked questions like where is the condom, how much cash was exchanged. I have good luck with going to strip bars and meeting at hotel later (together). Just my thoughts.

AaronBoy
11-11-15, 14:06
There is a guy over in the Southern Jersey General thread implying that you can tell a girl is unhealthy by looking at her and determining if she has lost weight. Here in the Philadelphia General Thread it has been implied that washing with soap and water is a defense against STDs.

And, nobody is standing up and shouting, WTF, don't be so naive.

Wear a condom or don't wear a condom, just know the risk. Wash before, after or during if you can but know the risk. Fuck 'em skinny, fat or in between, I don't care, just know the risk.

CookyJar.Cookie, I think the only reason no one's responding to that dudes comments, are that they think he's crazy for putting some bullshit info like that on this page. Who the fuck would take that advice. Washing your dick after raw sex, and thinking you can't catch STD'S. Damm.

A.

Inncogneatoe
11-21-15, 22:10
P.S. Sorry I didn't take 30 pictures of her ass to show you. LOL. But if I did that, then I'd have to say I didn't remember her name, names are not important, and would you all please comment on how she is on a date! Double LOL.Yeah, I am sorry too. Because now I am going to have to drive up and down the avenue yelling out of my car window, "Hey Are you Linda, the girl who shafted Barry Manilow after he foolishly paid you up front."

One single cell phone picture would have done the trick and maybe saved a few of us from what befell you. Dirty blonde and the name Linda is not much. Were there any tattoos, distinguishing marks or is there a more descriptive description available?

I am not a big CookyJar fan. I do give the guy credit where credit is due.

InnCogNeatToe.

P.S.: I am posting this here because I do not want to be labeled a Douchebag. LOL

Cephlapod Love
11-22-15, 10:25
Hey I personally don't do BP. I don't like some of the areas and especially meeting at roach motels. My friend was busted at AMP. They made him stand naked until the raid was over. They asked questions like where is the condom, how much cash was exchanged. I have good luck with going to strip bars and meeting at hotel later (together). Just my thoughts.Everyone has their own level of risk tolerance and methods for managing risk. These forums provide information one can use to manage risk.

Just because ones risk tolerance is different doesn't mean others are to be disparaged.

BTW- Sounds like your friend needs to watch the video, Busted: A Citizen's Guide to Surviving Police Encounters.

Dolan69
11-30-15, 00:25
I was particularly interested in "bumpnrun's" post below. Very sound advice. Ultimately all of this boils down to how much risk we want to take with our bodies. I started in this hobby about 4 years ago when my marriage started failing. I'm now 47 . I live in the NY metro area. I'm particularly attracted to the Asian incalls specifically the upscale Korean services in and around NYC. Now I realize that wait I'm about to say is not for the faint of heart or slim of wallet. I'm a prof guy with a 6 figure income and I know I could date regular civilian women and I do but I find if very entertaining and exciting pursuing these early. Mid twenties Korean hoties. I'm a very fit decent looking Caucasian guy. I have washboard abs and a really cut youthful figure. I'm 5'9" and have very regular german / Nordic features. I keep myself meticulously groomed and clean and fit and well dressed. I will get myself STD tested at an online pre paid service like STD check or STD express every two weeks or sometimes even more frequently. I will show up at an incall location or hotel with these blood tests. I have also had a vasectomy. I also, believe it or not, purchased a bunch of HIV tests that can be performed by a mouth saliva swab. (I get special deals on these as an MD).

Every pro has her price. I arrive with a few roses or carnations, some chocolate. I make sure I get the lights up and on or shades open if its daytime, so I can inspect the room for drug paraphernalia. I also want to get a really good look at her body, (track marks, scars, etc.) I have the knowledge and training to look for these things. Most of the these younger Asian girls are very clean and physically beautiful.

We often start the session, if its a first time, with some very gentle hugging and kissing. I a completely straight hetero guy and only want to enjoy these women in a gentle respectful way. I don't want to abuse or hurt them. Once they get this vibe from me they really relax most of the time. After 15-20 minutes I say, "oh I wanted to show you something" and I bring out an envelope with a report from a hospital that shows I had a vasectomy and says I have no active sperm. Also I bring out the actual lab tests that show I am completely clean with no STD's not ever herpes (once I caught Chlamydia) There are several online language translation services available where you can have English text translated into any language you want. I have a sheet that says in English and Korean that I have 1) had a vasectomy and 2) I have a copy of a set of recent blood tests that show I am healthy (these are usually within the last 1-2 weeks). Now some girls get the hint and will say, so you want to skip the condom. Some don't get why I am showing them this. The next thing is to make it worth their while. And here guys is where you have to be committed and not insult them. If you want to realy get inside these beauties and cream inside them. You have to make it worth their while. My STD sheet says "I really appreciate spending time together with you and I want you to feel comfortable and safe with me. I had my blood and urine tested and I have a copy of the results that you can see. I am completely healthy. ".

The price for an Asian incall service in the NYC area is about 220 for reg GFE service. Some of the higher end places charge 350 or even 400 or even 500. If the girl is really one who I really think is a hottie and want to bareback, Ill offer her another 400-500 bucks. They almost always accept. If they don't accept they I usually have a great time anyway and if I decide to come back again another time I try it again. I offer to test THEM with the mouth swab (which gives results in the room in 15 minutes) and they usually accept.

Afterward, as has been written in other posts you have to wash yourself with soap and water thoroughly. I would also add to this, if you are worried about herpes consider washing with 9-10% betadine solution for 3 minutes and then drying your genitals and applying moisturizer to the area as the betadine can be irritating. Alcohol gel also kills herpes but can sting. You can apply this right afterward on the way home.

What I do is I actually have a supply of oral Valacyclovir tablets and I take 1000 mg by mouth about an hour before the encounter and then again about 4-6 hours later.

I have a supply of Zithromax and cipro 500 XR tablets. 1000 mg of oral Zithromax is currently the treatment for chlamydia and one dose of 500 mg cipro XR is for gonorrhea.

Syphilis is very rare in this population and is curable.

Hep be has a vaccine which you can get. Hep see is rarely acquired unless you are seriously into rimming which I am not.

HIV well. What can I say. Very rare in the upscale Asian incall community. Again it all depends on the risks you want to take. I am not into picking up crack head, drug addled streetwalkers.

I did in fact " fall in love " with a Asian incall escort who actually lived nearby to me. She became my sugar baby for almost a year and we dated and I helped get through school and she left the business. When I finally decided that we couldn't continue the relationship any more I cried like a child. It was like a high school girlfriend breakup.

Anyway. If you have any other questions let me know.

Cowboy5343
11-30-15, 11:26
I was particularly interested in "bumpnrun's" post below. Very sound advice. Ultimately all of this boils down to how much risk we want to take with our bodies. I started in this hobby about 4 years ago when my marriage started failing. I'm now 47 . I live in the NY metro area. I'm particularly attracted to the Asian incalls specifically the upscale Korean services in and around NYC. Now I realize that wait I'm about to say is not for the faint of heart or slim of wallet. I'm a prof guy with a 6 figure income and I know I could date regular civilian women and I do but I find if very entertaining and exciting pursuing these early. Mid twenties Korean hoties. I'm a very fit decent looking Caucasian guy. I have washboard abs and a really cut youthful figure. I'm 5'9" and have very regular german / Nordic features. I keep myself meticulously groomed and clean and fit and well dressed. I will get myself STD tested at an online pre paid service like STD check or STD express every two weeks or sometimes even more frequently. I will show up at an incall location or hotel with these blood tests. I have also had a vasectomy. I also, believe it or not, purchased a bunch of HIV tests that can be performed by a mouth saliva swab. (I get special deals on these as an MD).

Every pro has her price. I arrive with a few roses or carnations, some chocolate. I make sure I get the lights up and on or shades open if its daytime, so I can inspect the room for drug paraphernalia. I also want to get a really good look at her body, (track marks, scars, etc.) I have the knowledge and training to look for these things. Most of the these younger Asian girls are very clean and physically beautiful.

We often start the session, if its a first time, with some very gentle hugging and kissing. I a completely straight hetero guy and only want to enjoy these women in a gentle respectful way. I don't want to abuse or hurt them. Once they get this vibe from me they really relax most of the time. After 15-20 minutes I say, "oh I wanted to show you something" and I bring out an envelope with a report from a hospital that shows I had a vasectomy and says I have no active sperm. Also I bring out the actual lab tests that show I am completely clean with no STD's not ever herpes (once I caught Chlamydia) There are several online language translation services available where you can have English text translated into any language you want. I have a sheet that says in English and Korean that I have 1) had a vasectomy and 2) I have a copy of a set of recent blood tests that show I am healthy (these are usually within the last 1-2 weeks). Now some girls get the hint and will say, so you want to skip the condom. Some don't get why I am showing them this. The next thing is to make it worth their while. And here guys is where you have to be committed and not insult them. If you want to realy get inside these beauties and cream inside them. You have to make it worth their while. My STD sheet says "I really appreciate spending time together with you and I want you to feel comfortable and safe with me. I had my blood and urine tested and I have a copy of the results that you can see. I am completely healthy. ".

The price for an Asian incall service in the NYC area is about 220 for reg GFE service. Some of the higher end places charge 350 or even 400 or even 500. If the girl is really one who I really think is a hottie and want to bareback, Ill offer her another 400-500 bucks. They almost always accept. If they don't accept they I usually have a great time anyway and if I decide to come back again another time I try it again. I offer to test THEM with the mouth swab (which gives results in the room in 15 minutes) and they usually accept.

Afterward, as has been written in other posts you have to wash yourself with soap and water thoroughly. I would also add to this, if you are worried about herpes consider washing with 9-10% betadine solution for 3 minutes and then drying your genitals and applying moisturizer to the area as the betadine can be irritating. Alcohol gel also kills herpes but can sting. You can apply this right afterward on the way home.

What I do is I actually have a supply of oral Valacyclovir tablets and I take 1000 mg by mouth about an hour before the encounter and then again about 4-6 hours later.

I have a supply of Zithromax and cipro 500 XR tablets. 1000 mg of oral Zithromax is currently the treatment for chlamydia and one dose of 500 mg cipro XR is for gonorrhea.

Syphilis is very rare in this population and is curable.

Hep be has a vaccine which you can get. Hep see is rarely acquired unless you are seriously into rimming which I am not.

HIV well. What can I say. Very rare in the upscale Asian incall community. Again it all depends on the risks you want to take. I am not into picking up crack head, drug addled streetwalkers.

I did in fact " fall in love " with a Asian incall escort who actually lived nearby to me. She became my sugar baby for almost a year and we dated and I helped get through school and she left the business. When I finally decided that we couldn't continue the relationship any more I cried like a child. It was like a high school girlfriend breakup.

Anyway. If you have any other questions let me know.Sounds like you prepare well to enjoy your hobby and kudos to you for that. HOWEVER, I feel it should be pointed out that it is somewhat misleading. If you are an MD, then I am sure you know, that the STD test results you take with you are not worth the paper they are written on. How does the girl know that you haven't had unprotected sex between the time the test was administered and the time you walked in her door? Furthermore, since it may take some time for a disease like HIV to show up in a test, the only sure fire way to know, is to get tested, abstain from sex for, say, six months, then get tested again. Then and only then will you be sure that you are STD free.

Runner8
11-30-15, 16:02
We appreciate your info and perspective D69. I do believe you can safely for the most part participate in this hobby if you stay safe and smart, I. E. Thinking with the big head!

Wish you the best!

Runner.


I was particularly interested in "bumpnrun's" post below. Very sound advice. Ultimately all of this boils down to how much risk we want to take with our bodies. I started in this hobby about 4 years ago when my marriage started failing. I'm now 47 . I live in the NY metro area. I'm particularly attracted to the Asian incalls specifically the upscale Korean services in and around NYC. Now I realize that wait I'm about to say is not for the faint of heart or slim of wallet. I'm a prof guy with a 6 figure income and I know I could date regular civilian women and I do but I find if very entertaining and exciting pursuing these early. Mid twenties Korean hoties. I'm a very fit decent looking Caucasian guy. I have washboard abs and a really cut youthful figure. I'm 5'9" and have very regular german / Nordic features. I keep myself meticulously groomed and clean and fit and well dressed. I will get myself STD tested at an online pre paid service like STD check or STD express every two weeks or sometimes even more frequently. I will show up at an incall location or hotel with these blood tests. I have also had a vasectomy. I also, believe it or not, purchased a bunch of HIV tests that can be performed by a mouth saliva swab. (I get special deals on these as an MD).

Every pro has her price. I arrive with a few roses or carnations, some chocolate. I make sure I get the lights up and on or shades open if its daytime, so I can inspect the room for drug paraphernalia. I also want to get a really good look at her body, (track marks, scars, etc.) I have the knowledge and training to look for these things. Most of the these younger Asian girls are very clean and physically beautiful.

We often start the session, if its a first time, with some very gentle hugging and kissing. I a completely straight hetero guy and only want to enjoy these women in a gentle respectful way. I don't want to abuse or hurt them. Once they get this vibe from me they really relax most of the time. After 15-20 minutes I say, "oh I wanted to show you something" and I bring out an envelope with a report from a hospital that shows I had a vasectomy and says I have no active sperm. Also I bring out the actual lab tests that show I am completely clean with no STD's not ever herpes (once I caught Chlamydia) There are several online language translation services available where you can have English text translated into any language you want. I have a sheet that says in English and Korean that I have 1) had a vasectomy and 2) I have a copy of a set of recent blood tests that show I am healthy (these are usually within the last 1-2 weeks). Now some girls get the hint and will say, so you want to skip the condom. Some don't get why I am showing them this. The next thing is to make it worth their while. And here guys is where you have to be committed and not insult them. If you want to realy get inside these beauties and cream inside them. You have to make it worth their while. My STD sheet says "I really appreciate spending time together with you and I want you to feel comfortable and safe with me. I had my blood and urine tested and I have a copy of the results that you can see. I am completely healthy. ".

The price for an Asian incall service in the NYC area is about 220 for reg GFE service. Some of the higher end places charge 350 or even 400 or even 500. If the girl is really one who I really think is a hottie and want to bareback, Ill offer her another 400-500 bucks. They almost always accept. If they don't accept they I usually have a great time anyway and if I decide to come back again another time I try it again. I offer to test THEM with the mouth swab (which gives results in the room in 15 minutes) and they usually accept.

Afterward, as has been written in other posts you have to wash yourself with soap and water thoroughly. I would also add to this, if you are worried about herpes consider washing with 9-10% betadine solution for 3 minutes and then drying your genitals and applying moisturizer to the area as the betadine can be irritating. Alcohol gel also kills herpes but can sting. You can apply this right afterward on the way home.

What I do is I actually have a supply of oral Valacyclovir tablets and I take 1000 mg by mouth about an hour before the encounter and then again about 4-6 hours later.

I have a supply of Zithromax and cipro 500 XR tablets. 1000 mg of oral Zithromax is currently the treatment for chlamydia and one dose of 500 mg cipro XR is for gonorrhea.

Syphilis is very rare in this population and is curable.

Hep be has a vaccine which you can get. Hep see is rarely acquired unless you are seriously into rimming which I am not.

HIV well. What can I say. Very rare in the upscale Asian incall community. Again it all depends on the risks you want to take. I am not into picking up crack head, drug addled streetwalkers.

I did in fact " fall in love " with a Asian incall escort who actually lived nearby to me. She became my sugar baby for almost a year and we dated and I helped get through school and she left the business. When I finally decided that we couldn't continue the relationship any more I cried like a child. It was like a high school girlfriend breakup.

Anyway. If you have any other questions let me know.

CookyJar
11-30-15, 19:30
...Furthermore, since it may take some time for a disease like HIV to show up in a test, the only sure fire way to know, is to get tested, abstain from sex for, say, six months, then get tested again. Then and only then will you be sure that you are STD free.Thank you Cowboy, I was just about to point out that very same misleading discrepancy.

I also find it hard to believe that a MD would suggest or hint to his patients that washing with soap and water after unprotected sex prevents the transmission of the HIV virus.

Washing with extra strength tide, popping this or that pill, disinfecting with this thing or the other, using mom's home grown remedies may be fine, however condoms are still the best and most efficient line of defense against HIV.

Physician, heal thyself.

CookyJar.

Cephlapod Love
12-01-15, 11:09
Thank you Cowboy, I was just about to point out that very same misleading discrepancy.

I also find it hard to believe that a MD would suggest or hint to his patients that washing with soap and water after unprotected sex prevents the transmission of the HIV virus.

Washing with extra strength tide, popping this or that pill, disinfecting with this thing or the other, using mom's home grown remedies may be fine, however condoms are still the best and most efficient line of defense against HIV.

Physician, heal thyself.

CookyJar.Er, um, ah. This debate bugs me. I like to deal with scientifically proven facts and not conjecture, old science or "beliefs. ".

No, don't read into this anything about my preferences or styles of dating! Per the forum rules I am not commenting on anyone's safe sex choices or practices, nor am I commenting on my own.

Look, I get it. Those of us old enough to have lived through the sexual revolution and into the beginning of the AIDS scare have a certain point of view. I have seen others on USASG threads mention that the crisis was so new, expanding so fast and so unpredictable that from a Public Health perspective something needed to be done. They suggested that in the beginning HIV was labeled a "Gay Disease" and many heterosexuals didn't take it seriously. Of course HIV knows there are no boundaries of gay or straight. As the theory goes, what was done was massive Public Health campaigns that were "essentially" scare tactics: you have unprotected sex, you die. (generalized / dramatized) Sure, we had a lot to learn and it took something like this to change culture, opinions and behaviors. So I get that there lingers an underlying fear of dying from having unprotected sex. It probably was necessary to give that view years ago, to change behaviors. So I can see that.

What bugs me is that things aren't static and what we learned years ago may NOT be true today. Science and humanity marches forward, improvements are made. So sticking with "old knowledge" or "beliefs" maybe ones prerogative in a free society, it does not make them fact or the truth.

So let me address a few things that bug me here in this debate.

1. The thought that one absolutely has to wait 6-months on a retest to insure they are HIV negative is just plain ignorant (lack of knowledge). That may have been the way it was 20-years ago, or how we learned it around the water cooler, but it just isn't true anymore! Take a look at these facts from the San Francisco AIDS Foundation (you think these people are spreading misinformation?

There's a period of time after a person is infected during which they won't test positive. This is called the HIV window period.

The window period can be from 9 days to 3-6 months, depending on the person's body and on the HIV-test that's used.

http://www.sfaf.org/hiv-info/testing/hiv-test-window-periods.html

The old standard HIV test is an antibody test. 97% of people will have enough antibodies built up in their system after 3-months to be detected by this test. So one has a 3% chance of falling outside that range.

But LOOK! There is new science - an RNA or antigen test that detects the presence of HIV in 1-3 weeks! I also note that there are FDA approved Home Test Kits, one of which is OraSure.

Cephlapod Love
12-01-15, 11:14
2. While it is true that HIV infection can not be cured, infection no longer means a death sentence, with medical attention and care.

Similar to what I was told at the clinic in the heart of Philly's Gayborhood.

With treatment and regular medical care, HIV today is a manageable disease. In fact, recent studies say HIV-positive people can have normal life spans with effective treatment that keeps their immune systems healthy.

http://www.sfaf.org/hiv-info/treatment/

So I hate to see bright gents, locked in to fear or "beliefs," based on old knowledge.

3. As far as washing with soap and water as a method of avoiding AIDS or HIV. That is just plain IGNORANT! The skin is a pretty good barrier to things in the environment, including the vaginal environment. However, if one has sores, scabs, cuts, knicks, razor burn, raw skin, etc. Then that barrier is open or depleted. That is the point of the condom. It provides a barrier that HIV and other STDs are unlikely to penetrate. But with an opening in the barrier then infection has a direct route to the blood system. Washing afterwards isn't going to stop infection that has already reached the blood system.

I will say, that as a general health protective measure, washing the genitalia after sex IS a good idea. Shoot long before AIDS was ever heard of Medical professionals told me to wash and urinate immediately after sex as a good practice.

4. I do not understand why one would pay up to $500 for a girl, then add an addition $500 to play with her bareback. Oh and then get rapid HIV tests ($349) every week or more ($1,400+/ mo.) as a strategy to stay safe with BBFS? Wouldn't it be safer / cheaper to just get married or into a monogamous relationship?

5. If one thinks they have been exposed to HIV infection there is Post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP) that can be used as a preventative measure. This is NOT some "home remedy". Herbal supplements or old-wives tail, but medical science. Lack of knowledge, or lack of acceptance of this information doesn't make it wrong or false.

Post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP) involves taking anti-HIV medications as soon as possible (within 3 days) after you may have been exposed to HIV to try to reduce the chance of becoming HIV positive. PEP is a month-long course of emergency medication taken to try to keep HIV from making copies of itself and spreading through your body.

https://www.aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/prevention/reduce-your-risk/post-exposure-prophylaxis/

6. I do not understand the use of Valacyclovir before and after a BBFS encounter. Valacyclovir is a "treatment" for herpes:

Valacyclovir is an antiviral drug. It slows the growth and spread of the herpes virus so that the body can fight off the infection. It will not cure herpes, but it can lessen the symptoms of the infection.

http://www.drugs.com/valacyclovir.html

While I understand that many "approved" drugs are often used "off label" for other purposes, if there are studies which demonstrate (or even suggest) the HIV preventative nature of Valacyclovir I would like to see those added to the discussion. I am interested in facts, not speculation or anecdotal science experiments.

Cephlapod Love
12-01-15, 11:16
7. General knowledge of STDs seems to be lacking. I think we were socialized that anyone who gets an STD is less than human, or dirty or bad or something. What the poster rightly points out, most STDs can be prevented or cured. Using a condom can certainly be one's best approach to preventing one from "getting" an STD. Of course monogamous relationship with a clean, tested partner is 100% safe. You risk adverse? Get monogamous!

Here is a list of the 10 STD tests that make up a "full panel" test. I've added what I have found as notes to each. I'm sure others can add to it or perhaps correct some items?

HIV Type 1 HIV Type 2 - No cure, but a manageable disease with proper health care and as such not a death sentence. Some suggestion that PEP can prevent HIV infection on exposure if taken soon enough and properly. Prevention of exposure is best approach.

Herpes 1 Herpes 2 - HSV1 causes cold sores around the mouth and generally above the waist. Non fatal and a large majority of the population is likely infected. HSV2 - causes sores generally below the waist. No cure, but outbreaks can be managed with approved drugs.

Hepatitis A Hepatitis be Hepatitis see - Hep A & be can be prevented by using a vaccine. Hep see use to be a chronic, long-term disease. Now there are treatments for it.

Gonorrhea - one dose of 500 mg cipro XR is the treatment.

Chlamydia - Zithromax is currently the treatment for chlamydia.

Syphilis - A single intramuscular injection of long acting Benzathine penicillin G (2. 4 million units administered intramuscularly) will cure a person who has primary, secondary or early latent syphilis.

So in spite of prior "scare tactics' used in public health campaigns, there is no need to fear of dying from sex - with proper medical treatment. How one chooses to manage risk of "getting" one of these diseases is a personal choice that should NOT be taken lightly. I suggest considering ALL of the facts and discarding "beliefs" and old wives tales. The absolute and only 100% safe way is monogamous relationship with a clean, tested person. Other than that one is taking a risk and needs to understand the options, techniques and associated risks involved and then make a rational (not emotional) decision what is right for you. Condoms of course is one good method for managing that risk, Monogamy the only 100% safe method.

-too much said.

Cowboy5343
12-01-15, 13:23
Er, um, ah. This debate bugs me. I like to deal with scientifically proven facts and not conjecture, old science or "beliefs. ".

No, don't read into this anything about my preferences or styles of dating! Per the forum rules I am not commenting on anyone's safe sex choices or practices, nor am I commenting on my own.

Look, I get it. Those of us old enough to have lived through the sexual revolution and into the beginning of the AIDS scare have a certain point of view. I have seen others on USASG threads mention that the crisis was so new, expanding so fast and so unpredictable that from a Public Health perspective something needed to be done. They suggested that in the beginning HIV was labeled a "Gay Disease" and many heterosexuals didn't take it seriously. Of course HIV knows there are no boundaries of gay or straight. As the theory goes, what was done was massive Public Health campaigns that were "essentially" scare tactics: you have unprotected sex, you die. (generalized / dramatized) Sure, we had a lot to learn and it took something like this to change culture, opinions and behaviors. So I get that there lingers an underlying fear of dying from having unprotected sex. It probably was necessary to give that view years ago, to change behaviors. So I can see that.

What bugs me is that things aren't static and what we learned years ago may NOT be true today. Science and humanity marches forward, improvements are made. So sticking with "old knowledge" or "beliefs" maybe ones prerogative in a free society, it does not make them fact or the truth.

So let me address a few things that bug me here in this debate.

1. The thought that one absolutely has to wait 6-months on a retest to insure they are HIV negative is just plain ignorant (lack of knowledge). That may have been the way it was 20-years ago, or how we learned it around the water cooler, but it just isn't true anymore! Take a look at these facts from the San Francisco AIDS Foundation (you think these people are spreading misinformation?

There's a period of time after a person is infected during which they won't test positive. This is called the HIV window period.

The window period can be from 9 days to 3-6 months, depending on the person's body and on the HIV-test that's used.

http://www.sfaf.org/hiv-info/testing/hiv-test-window-periods.html

The old standard HIV test is an antibody test. 97% of people will have enough antibodies built up in their system after 3-months to be detected by this test. So one has a 3% chance of falling outside that range.

But LOOK! There is new science - an RNA or antigen test that detects the presence of HIV in 1-3 weeks! I also note that there are FDA approved Home Test Kits, one of which is OraSure.Your point is moot. Whether it takes 6 months or 1 week for the presence of HIV to be detected, you are still not proving you are not infected by showing someone test results. Thinking that you are. THAT'S what is ignorant.

NvrStlPhilly
12-01-15, 18:44
I was particularly interested in "bumpnrun's" post below. Very sound advice. Ultimately all of this boils down to how much risk we want to take with our bodies. I started in this hobby about 4 years ago when my marriage started failing. I'm now 47 . I live in the NY metro area. I'm particularly attracted to the Asian incalls specifically the upscale Korean services in and around NYC. Now I realize that wait I'm about to say is not for the faint of heart or slim of wallet. I'm a prof guy with a 6 figure income and I know I could date regular civilian women and I do but I find if very entertaining and exciting pursuing these early. Mid twenties Korean hoties. I'm a very fit decent looking Caucasian guy. I have washboard abs and a really cut youthful figure. I'm 5'9" and have very regular german / Nordic features. I keep myself meticulously groomed and clean and fit and well dressed. I will get myself STD tested at an online pre paid service like STD check or STD express every two weeks or sometimes even more frequently. I will show up at an incall location or hotel with these blood tests. I have also had a vasectomy. I also, believe it or not, purchased a bunch of HIV tests that can be performed by a mouth saliva swab. (I get special deals on these as an MD).

Every pro has her price. I arrive with a few roses or carnations, some chocolate. I make sure I get the lights up and on or shades open if its daytime, so I can inspect the room for drug paraphernalia. I also want to get a really good look at her body, (track marks, scars, etc.) I have the knowledge and training to look for these things. Most of the these younger Asian girls are very clean and physically beautiful.

We often start the session, if its a first time, with some very gentle hugging and kissing. I a completely straight hetero guy and only want to enjoy these women in a gentle respectful way. I don't want to abuse or hurt them. Once they get this vibe from me they really relax most of the time. After 15-20 minutes I say, "oh I wanted to show you something" and I bring out an envelope with a report from a hospital that shows I had a vasectomy and says I have no active sperm. Also I bring out the actual lab tests that show I am completely clean with no STD's not ever herpes (once I caught Chlamydia) There are several online language translation services available where you can have English text translated into any language you want. I have a sheet that says in English and Korean that I have 1) had a vasectomy and 2) I have a copy of a set of recent blood tests that show I am healthy (these are usually within the last 1-2 weeks). Now some girls get the hint and will say, so you want to skip the condom. Some don't get why I am showing them this. The next thing is to make it worth their while. And here guys is where you have to be committed and not insult them. If you want to realy get inside these beauties and cream inside them. You have to make it worth their while. My STD sheet says "I really appreciate spending time together with you and I want you to feel comfortable and safe with me. I had my blood and urine tested and I have a copy of the results that you can see. I am completely healthy. ".

The price for an Asian incall service in the NYC area is about 220 for reg GFE service. Some of the higher end places charge 350 or even 400 or even 500. If the girl is really one who I really think is a hottie and want to bareback, Ill offer her another 400-500 bucks. They almost always accept. If they don't accept they I usually have a great time anyway and if I decide to come back again another time I try it again. I offer to test THEM with the mouth swab (which gives results in the room in 15 minutes) and they usually accept.

Afterward, as has been written in other posts you have to wash yourself with soap and water thoroughly. I would also add to this, if you are worried about herpes consider washing with 9-10% betadine solution for 3 minutes and then drying your genitals and applying moisturizer to the area as the betadine can be irritating. Alcohol gel also kills herpes but can sting. You can apply this right afterward on the way home.

What I do is I actually have a supply of oral Valacyclovir tablets and I take 1000 mg by mouth about an hour before the encounter and then again about 4-6 hours later.

I have a supply of Zithromax and cipro 500 XR tablets. 1000 mg of oral Zithromax is currently the treatment for chlamydia and one dose of 500 mg cipro XR is for gonorrhea.

Syphilis is very rare in this population and is curable.

Hep be has a vaccine which you can get. Hep see is rarely acquired unless you are seriously into rimming which I am not.

HIV well. What can I say. Very rare in the upscale Asian incall community. Again it all depends on the risks you want to take. I am not into picking up crack head, drug addled streetwalkers.

I did in fact " fall in love " with a Asian incall escort who actually lived nearby to me. She became my sugar baby for almost a year and we dated and I helped get through school and she left the business. When I finally decided that we couldn't continue the relationship any more I cried like a child. It was like a high school girlfriend breakup.

Anyway. If you have any other questions let me know.I am 44 and want six pack abs. I am 10 lbs overweight. Let us know your secret on this subject. Thanks.

CookyJar
12-01-15, 19:40
Is my ignorance really that transparent? Ah! Perhaps it is. But! I shall continue to rely on condoms and you may put your faith in soap and water.


...There's a period of time after a person is infected during which they won't test positive. This is called the HIV window period.
The window period can be from 9 days to 3-6 months, depending on the person's body and on the HIV-test that's used.
http://www.sfaf.org/hiv-info/testing/hiv-test-window-periods.html
The old standard HIV test is an antibody test. 97% of people will have enough antibodies built up in their system after 3-months to be detected by this test...What's the specific window period for different types of HIV tests?

Antibody tests ("Rapid" tests) give a positive result based on antibodies to HIV, not the virus itself.




2-8 weeks (up to 2 months) after infection, most people will have enough antibodies to test positive




12 weeks (3 months) after infection, about 97% of people will have enough antibodies to test positive



Antigen tests (RNA tests) show a positive result based on the presence of the virus. These tests are more expensive than anitbody tests, so are not offered in as many places.



1-3 weeks after infection, there will be enough viral material for a positive result



Home testing kits As of Fall 2012, there are two "home tests" which have been approved by the FDA for use in the USA:




OraQuick by OraSure is an antibody test that you complete at home, so the window period is the same as described above.




Home Access HIV-1 by Home Access Health Corp is not actually a test, but a sample-collection kit. You use it to collect a blood sample which you then mail to a lab for processing.



Cephlapod Love, I don't get your point. Your scientific data confirms Cowboys statement. Yours seems to be an argument for the sake of arguing. Thinking that you will be safe going bareback because you tested the girl an hour ago, shows a gross Lack of Knowledge.

Once again you have managed to cloud over a very important issue with a bunch of facts. I may lack your knowledge and scientific go get it attitude. I do know one thing. Next to abstaining, condoms are the best defense against becoming HIV positive.

CookyJar.

Cephlapod Love
12-01-15, 22:51
Is my ignorance really that transparent? Ah! Perhaps it is. You know in my wanderings through life I have found that a certain type of person (not specifically referring to CJ here) gets all bent out of shape being called "ignorant" or having a lack of knowledge. I have always been kind of amused by that, because ignorance isn't a terminal situation. A bit of education is the "cure". So if one endeavors, they can cure their ignorance and no longer wear the label. You know, I personally never minded being called ignorant as I know that it can be cured. I do however, expect that some one who suggests such a label for me, that they provide resources that I can use to get educated and cure the ignorance. Since that is what I expect, I have provided information and links for anyone to read and learn from. I'm just sayin'.


But! I shall continue to rely on condoms and you may put your faith in soap and water.BullSh*T! The last half is an irresponsible statement. Please show me where I said one could put their faith in soap and water as an HIV preventative technique. I never said that! I did say healthcare professionals have told me washing after sex was good practice. It is. Are you saying washing after sex should never be done? Hey if you wanna put yer dirty tool away without cleaning and then go to the next girl with a dirty tool, I guess that is your prerogative in a free society. {see two can play that "put words in the other's mouth game} But for you to twist my words around like that is just plain BS! C'Mon. Man, you don't need to stoop that low, you are better than that!


What's the specific window period for different types of HIV tests?

Antibody tests ("Rapid" tests) give a positive result based on antibodies to HIV, not the virus itself.



2-8 weeks (up to 2 months) after infection, most people will have enough antibodies to test positiveYep and 2-month is not 6-months!



12 weeks (3 months) after infection, about 97% of people will have enough antibodies to test positiveHere again, 3-months is not 6-months!


Antigen tests (RNA tests) show a positive result based on the presence of the virus. These tests are more expensive than anitbody tests, so are not offered in as many places.



1-3 weeks after infection, there will be enough viral material for a positive result



Home testing kits As of Fall 2012, there are two "home tests" which have been approved by the FDA for use in the USA:


OraQuick by OraSure is an antibody test that you complete at home, so the window period is the same as described above.Yep, so again 2-months or 3-months is not 6-months!



Home Access HIV-1 by Home Access Health Corp is not actually a test, but a sample-collection kit. You use it to collect a blood sample which you then mail to a lab for processing.Yes, but the OraSure is a home test kit. It includes everything needed to get a result included in the kit. I forget, but think once the sample is collected it takes 10-15 min to get a result. No need to send a sample to a lab. Test kits can be purchased on line of is some pharmacies. Did you know of these test kits and their availability?


Cephlapod Love, I don't get your point. If you don't get my point then what is your point? Are we gunna pizz all over each others shoes endlessly? Have we locked into an epic "battle" like SE where no one can back down because they have to be right and prevail with their view over the other person? Are our egos that fragile?


Your scientific data confirms Cowboys statement. OK, lets recap Cowboy's statement!


Furthermore, since it may take some time for a disease like HIV to show up in a test, the only sure fire way to know, is to get tested, abstain from sex for, say, six months, then get tested again. Then and only then will you be sure that you are STD free.

I think if one reads (as noted above), they will see that they can get an antigen test which detects the exposure to HIV in 1-3 weeks time. So if one wants to be "sure" (as sure as anyone can be) then wait 3-weeks (while abstaining from sex) and get retested with the antigen test! 3-weeks is NOT 6-months! Also if one reads carefully they will see that the antibody tests are effective for 97% of people in a 3-month time frame. 3-months is not 6-months. So what Cowboy said is directly contradicted by the facts. That was my point. Not that getting one test means BBFS is OK. Don't put words in my mouth.


Yours seems to be an argument for the sake of arguing. But jeez dude. Who is arguing for arguing's sake? I must have mention condoms and abstinence at least a half dozen times in my posts and yet you feel like your position (using condoms) wasn't adequately addressed? I guess there is nothing short of total and complete agreement will satisfy you? Jeez.


Thinking that you will be safe going bareback because you tested the girl an hour ago, shows a gross Lack of Knowledge.Please tell me where in my comments I stated that one would be safe barebacking a girl because they were tested (or she was tested) an hour ago? I never said that and it is offensive that you are trying to put words into my mouth. SHAME ON YOU! Got to love this rhetorical technique - setting up a strawman to knock down or ascribing statements I never made to me so that you can attack them. Come on dude! You really have that big of a hard-on for this topic that you have to stoop that low in your rhetoric / arguing?


Once again you have managed to cloud over a very important issue with a bunch of facts. I may lack your knowledge and scientific go get it attitude. I do know one thing. Next to abstaining, condoms are the best defense against becoming HIV positive.But WTF! Dude, someone disagrees with your perspective and you call it "clouding over an important issue with a bunch of facts?" Huh? Are you saying you don't care about the truth or facts? I don't know if that is what you intended but it could look like you only want to push your own agenda and position? You are smarter than that so I'll guess it was not what you intended.

I truly hope that the facts help to clear the confusion or "indoctrination" that we all got from the Public Health system at the beginning of the HIV / AIDS crisis. I thought Marines were trained to adapt and adjust as conditions change. Not stick doggedly to to old rhetoric? Just so I spell it out - the "old rhetoric" is that one needs to wait 6-months between tests.

Come on CJ, I am sad to see typical "internet tactics" of making false accusations, setting up strawmen and putting words in my mouth. I think you are a better man than that and hope you will prove it. Or you can continue to take the low road. Your choice Amigo.

Sorry if my title of "Lack of Knowledge" felt like a personal attack on you. It wasn't. It was more focused on all who could learn some things on the subject. I know I learned a few things while looking up info, so I am sure, if everyone is honest, they learned a few things too. Isn't that why we are here? Trade information and get better educated in the hobby?

Shall we keep wetting each others shoes?

Peace.

CookyJar
12-01-15, 23:06
In all probability, HIV is more prevalent among the Asian prostitution community then it is among the Asian general population. Take that into consideration when reading the statistical facts.


…HIV well. What can I say. Very rare in the upscale Asian incall community. Again it all depends on the risks you want to take. I am not into picking up crack head, drug addled streetwalkers...HIV/AIDS is no respecter of persons, age, sex, race, creed, national origin or status. Upscale Asians can get and pass on HIV. That’s an undisputable fact.

Don't get it twisted.

If you don't believe me, ask my hero Charlie Harper (Charlie Sheen). He could have gotten his infection from a crack head or drug addicted streetwalker, but I doubt it. More than likely he got it from fucking upscale pros bareback. I cannot imagine Charlie needing to share needles. JMHO.

Take whatever chances you want. Know the risk involved.

CookyJar.

Hideo
12-01-15, 23:23
In all probability, HIV is more prevalent among the Asian prostitution community then it is among the Asian general population. Take that into consideration when reading the statistical facts.

HIV/AIDS is no respecter of persons, age, sex, race, creed, national origin or status. Upscale Asians can get and pass on HIV. Thats an undisputable fact.

Don't get it twisted.

If you don't believe me, ask my hero Charlie Harper (Charlie Sheen). He could have gotten his infection from a crack head or drug addicted streetwalker, but I doubt it. More than likely he got it from fucking upscale pros bareback. I cannot imagine Charlie needing to share needles. JMHO.

Take whatever chances you want. Know the risk involved.

CookyJar.He slept with men too.

CookyJar
12-02-15, 01:31
In all probability, HIV is more prevalent among the Asian prostitution community then it is among the Asian general population. Take that into consideration when reading the statistical facts.

HIV/AIDS is no respecter of persons, age, sex, race, creed, national origin or status. Upscale Asians can get and pass on HIV. Thats an undisputable fact.

Don't get it twisted.

If you don't believe me, ask my hero Charlie Harper (Charlie Sheen). He could have gotten his infection from a crack head or drug addicted streetwalker, but I doubt it. More than likely he got it from fucking upscale pros bareback. I cannot imagine Charlie needing to share needles. JMHO.

Take whatever chances you want. Know the risk involved.

CookyJar.In my humble opinion the Micky Mouse Thread is for children. I would rather have my comments deleted than moved here. I hate this shit.

CookyJar.

Dr Dong
12-02-15, 06:58
Alll this STD talk reminded of a quick riddle. What's the difference between love and Herpes? Herpes lasts forever!!

Waldo58
12-02-15, 08:56
In my humble opinion the Micky Mouse Thread is for children. I would rather have my comments deleted than moved here. I hate this shit.

CookyJar.Well if you hate it, then post in a different forum. There are plenty of sites out there for philosophizing or storing porn.

NiviThree
12-04-15, 16:03
Are their sites for the small and judgemental?

For those who worry a lot about what other adults like or do? And feel they are uniquely better and qualified to assert their superiority?

A site for stalkers would be fun. All the prone to obsess in one spot in a never ending stalk fest.

By definition if someone is here they have lost all credibility to find others somehow lesser.

Waldo58
12-04-15, 20:40
...By definition if someone is here they have lost all credibility to find others somehow lesser.Yes, and that includes your friend, who has now been demoted to this childrens thread. He does this while throwing a hissy fit, looking down his nose at the other children, wailing "I hate this shit", and trying to escape his baby crib. The problem is, the others are not lesser; they are just different from him. He is intolerant of those who don't see the forum his way. He wants to chat; the others want to get laid. He wants to stash his porno collection here for free; the others want sex intel for free. He wants to blow smoke in threads labelled "report"; the others want to read reports in report threads. There's a reason he was given his own thread years ago: his porn and tirades and blather and asshole-naming contests were getting in the way of the concise reports this forum was desugned for.

Dolan69
12-04-15, 21:28
Sounds like you prepare well to enjoy your hobby and kudos to you for that. HOWEVER, I feel it should be pointed out that it is somewhat misleading. If you are an MD, then I am sure you know, that the STD test results you take with you are not worth the paper they are written on. How does the girl know that you haven't had unprotected sex between the time the test was administered and the time you walked in her door? Furthermore, since it may take some time for a disease like HIV to show up in a test, the only sure fire way to know, is to get tested, abstain from sex for, say, six months, then get tested again. Then and only then will you be sure that you are STD free.Yes you are correct and very well informed. HIV and some of these other conditions can take time, weeks in some cases, to show up positive on a blood test. It can take 3 days or more for a urine test to incubate and show positive results for chlymidia and gonorrhea.

As I said this is an extreme sport and not for the faint of heart or wallet. Most people are not as well informed as you are and when they see a wad of 100's, caution goes out the window.

Once again I am not into messed up drug addled white american girls. Alot of the upscale asian incall ladies are completely clean. I've never picked up a streetwalker. I 've never had unprotected BBFS at a typical asian AMP.

This all boils down to how much risk you are willing to take and how much money you want to waste on your addiction. I've had girls look at my test results under the light and even ask me for I'd to verify that the name on the tests was actually me. So their brains are working on some level.

Dolan69
12-06-15, 21:01
Thank you Cowboy, I was just about to point out that very same misleading discrepancy.

I also find it hard to believe that a MD would suggest or hint to his patients that washing with soap and water after unprotected sex prevents the transmission of the HIV virus.

Washing with extra strength tide, popping this or that pill, disinfecting with this thing or the other, using mom's home grown remedies may be fine, however condoms are still the best and most efficient line of defense against HIV.

Physician, heal thyself.

CookyJar.I did not suggest that washing prevents HIV transmission. There is however good evidence that washing well prevents HERPES transmission. You have a much greater chance of getting herpes one or hepes II than you do of getting human immunodef virus.

There is evidence that betadine (iodine) kills herpes in the skin. So does alcohol gel. Rinsing your mouth with commercially available hydrogen peroxide soln (the kind you use to disinfect a cut) may also kill herpes. I will use this as mouthwash. Swish about a table spoon around in your mouth for 2-3 minutes and spit. It also whitens your teeth.

If you wash your genitals with betadine be sure to dry thoroughly and apply moisturizer to the area. I personally use expeller pressed refined coconut oil. You won't walk around smelling like a mimosa. The stuff really doesn't smell that much like coconuts.

Be very careful not to floss your teeth the day of an encounter, aggressively treat any chapped lids. Make sure you have no breaks in the penis or genital skin. Make sure the girl has no blood or sores coming from her vagina. You can negotiate for BBFS and start with a condom to prevent from cumming too quickly and then pull out and check the condom for blood. Because these girls see so much action. I try to see the early in the AM or on the first day of their "tour" or week.

Again I realize the risk I'm taking. Some guys buy Harleys and ride around and F*&k themselves up. Guys blow wads of cash on all sorts of things. To each his own.

I'm only realy worried about herpes and HIV. Everything else is curable with anti biotics. Herpes can be chronic and painful but is treatable and there is alot promise that there will be a vaccine available.

HIV well. This is the real risk isn't it. I actually have patients who have had HIV since the 1990's and live pretty normal lives on a bunch of drugs. So its not like you end up paralyzed from a motorcycle accident. OR get crushed in some mountain climbing expedition.

Barry Manilow
01-14-16, 16:32
They make $ 50 dollars for half hour work. Many make $ 200 to $ 300 a day effortlessly. I know many SW, escorts, and dancers. It is THEIR fault they do not save or invest the money. Actually most are overpaid and spoiled.

They get paid very well and on most occasions too much. They chose their life and destiny. Hey many tell me they laugh when others say they are victims. They admit they want to do it. Take responsibility for yourself only. Many are smarter than you think and many hook sober for the rest of their lives.Years ago there was a skinny WSW working the Avenue who got paid very well and helped maintain a 3rd-floor walkup at her pimp Abdul's place. She chose her life and her destiny, and guess how it started: she got hooked on heroin in the suburbs after befriending the dealer son of a famous NFL football coach! Yes, she laughed when people said she was a victim. She wanted to do it and took responsibility for it. The girl was, and is, smart. So I guess she was an example of how prescient and smart NvrStlPhilly is. He's got the answers, and we can pretty much close the book on those laughable claims by others that we should feel sorry for the girls on the K.

As another example, when CookyJar gives a shout-out here to the girl NvrStlPhilly referred to, you can be sure his friendship and his photos will help HER hook for the rest of her life. Think of all the money that girl will make, especially after she turns 50, and her fat belly and gray hair brings them in droves to her doorsrep.

But I digress from the story of the skinny girl from the suburbs. She eventually had a stroke, nearly died, and ended up in a wheelchair. She's living off of disability pay now, obtained effortlessly of course. Unmarried. Bored and depressed. Cookie used to take photos of her too, so maybe he should shout out to her, as a reminder that she was overpaid and spoiled. Anyway, she took responsibility for herself, so she's certainly no victim in NvrStlPhilly's book.

So you see, NvrStlPhilly is right. It's THEIR fault. No need to be concerned.

NvrStlPhilly
01-17-16, 23:14
Years ago there was a skinny WSW working the Avenue who got paid very well and helped maintain a 3rd-floor walkup at her pimp Abdul's place. She chose her life and her destiny, and guess how it started: she got hooked on heroin in the suburbs after befriending the dealer son of a famous NFL football coach! Yes, she laughed when people said she was a victim. She wanted to do it and took responsibility for it. The girl was, and is, smart. So I guess she was an example of how prescient and smart NvrStlPhilly is. He's got the answers, and we can pretty much close the book on those laughable claims by others that we should feel sorry for the girls on the K.

As another example, when CookyJar gives a shout-out here to the girl NvrStlPhilly referred to, you can be sure his friendship and his photos will help HER hook for the rest of her life. Think of all the money that girl will make, especially after she turns 50, and her fat belly and gray hair brings them in droves to her doorsrep.

But I digress from the story of the skinny girl from the suburbs. She eventually had a stroke, nearly died, and ended up in a wheelchair. She's living off of disability pay now, obtained effortlessly of course. Unmarried. Bored and depressed. Cookie used to take photos of her too, so maybe he should shout out to her, as a reminder that she was overpaid and spoiled. Anyway, she took responsibility for herself, so she's certainly no victim in NvrStlPhilly's book.

So you see, NvrStlPhilly is right. It's THEIR fault. No need to be concerned.I don't know your level of chump but on occasion with have a wounded bird. But in GENERAL be smart and realize we are dealing with manipulative players. They want big buck and generally lazy and don't wan't work starting at the bottom and work up in the world. Maybe Hip Hop or Oprah didn't clarify the need. This is true with drug dealers. The hoes are egotistical and self centered. Nature has it's way and backfires on them. They think they are fooling everyone and fooling now one. That's all my friend. Your vegetable friend should be preaching to all the hoes that their thinking is wrong and you can't get over in life! You reap what you sow! She most likely deserved this after lifetime time of fucking everyone world up. How many people did she rob? How many Johns did she infect? Did she have kids or where they conveniently aborted? If kids(white or non-white) did she care for them? Yeh right poor me !!! The list goes on. She was most evil so her karma hit most hardest. It;s a blessing she off street to not harm us , others , or local community as she would spread disease, have mulattos or infect the yokels. !!! No one is innocent qho hits the ave; circumstances in past lead to this. Good girls don't hit the ave. Be smart please !!!

NvrStlPhilly
01-18-16, 03:48
I don't know your level of chump but on occasion with have a wounded bird. But in GENERAL be smart and realize we are dealing with manipulative players. They want big buck and generally lazy and don't wan't work starting at the bottom and work up in the world. Maybe Hip Hop or Oprah didn't clarify the need. This is true with drug dealers. The hoes are egotistical and self centered. Nature has it's way and backfires on them. They think they are fooling everyone and fooling now one. That's all my friend. Your vegetable friend should be preaching to all the hoes that their thinking is wrong and you can't get over in life! You reap what you sow! She most likely deserved this after lifetime time of fucking everyone world up. How many people did she rob? How many Johns did she infect? Did she have kids or where they conveniently aborted? If kids(white or non-white) did she care for them? Yeh right poor me !!! The list goes on. She was most evil so her karma hit most hardest. It;s a blessing she off street to not harm us , others , or local community as she would spread disease, have mulattos or infect the yokels! No one is innocent qho hits the ave; circumstances in past lead to this. Good girls don't hit the ave. Be smart please !!!As always their is an exception to the rule but are most all are ruthless. Actually it the man being preyed upon(abused) to loot every single dollar out of his pocket.

Barry Manilow
03-04-16, 13:02
Come on. There may be a law or something prohibiting ugly lewd women in public. Disturbing the peace or obscenity or something? Yuck let us post something better. Bad taste.Frankly, it's been 10 years of bad taste posting. Remember his favorite, Sabrina? People don't come here to look at pictures of ugly fat women like that. But he feels he must robotically post his quota of photos for the month.

When you get to be his age (late 60's) hopefully you will pull out from the game instead of pathetically pretending to be virile. BTW, check out the impotent one's latest fabricated story:


Dominic pulled my dick out, and started to stroke it. It instantly felt amazing. I stared down at her beautiful eyes as she stared back into mine. Dominic stuck her tongue out and slowly ran it from the base of my dick, all along the length of it, to the tip. I groaned, "Oh fuck! That is so good. ".

Bad photos, bad prose. I feel sorry for the old man.

Hortense
05-30-16, 10:18
You remember Sabrina? I made the rookie mistake of calling her and not blocking the call. The first time she called, I was in a board meeting.Was that the AARP board or the GLBT board?

Cephlapod Love
05-30-16, 16:22
Was that the AARP board or the GLBT board?WTF is GLBT? Some corporation?

Hortense
05-30-16, 17:38
WTF is GLBT? Some corporation?Yes, it held "meetings" in the hotel that formerly stood near Catherine Street and 16th. According to longstanding USASG member RedDragon, CookyJar was quite an active participant. LOL.

Cephlapod Love
08-02-16, 07:42
So I have not intentionally posted in over a month as the BullSh*T that goes around just gets to be too much and one needs a break.

But my first post back and oh look! A couple of numb-nuts chime in with more of the bullsh*T! Really? Why do I waste my time here?

I mean REALLY? We gots one member who has been around since at least 05-20-13 (first post) and has only 32 posts to his name and wants info on a girl from me! Of those 32 I scanned it looks like there maybe ONE possible post that is "review like. " HESUS! Three years, one has gotten good education, advice and b / c help from these boards and one can't be bothered to post several good reviews? You want respect on this board, quit being a freeloader and get off yer AZZ and post some reviews. It isn't all that hard, but reviews build cred. C'Mon. Man! I am challenging you to step up to the plate!

Then we get another dude who complains about this board stating that he's a member of another board and it is great and how much sharing goes on over there! LOL! Dude has 19 freaking posts here AND NOT ONE LEGITIMATE REVIEW OF A GIRL! So he expects others to pony up info but he doesn't need to share info himself? SERIOUSLY! Then he complains about "how bad" it is here and that there is no sharing? Well Sheet man! WTF have you shared? Are you Mr One-Way? That behavior is SO predictable! Maybe if you were better than those you complain about, you'd find a better reception? But I know it takes no b@llz to sit on the sidelines and throw stones. It takes real b@llz to share info here. So what ya gunna do? Attack me more? Slink off and disappear to another board? Or are you man enough to admit your mistake and work hard to fix it?

Oh, and for those that are reading comprehension impaired, I posted some pictures to show the condition / quality of le Hotel Carlyle. Period. There just happened to be a girl in the pictures. I am SO TERRIBLY sorry that I focused on her and didn't take a set of travel log pictures of the Carlyle Hotel, its rooms, the staff, the "parking lot," a street appeal shot, the behind bullet proof glass check-in or the down the hall shared-bathroom. I don't know WTF came over me and how I messed up so Gosh Darn badly? F*CK! I'm such a screw up!

But F*CK! Youse Dudes got some valuable information about that place and the "thanks" for me sharing that info was to act like the north end of a south bound donkey

I should note, as it is appropriate behavior that others should emulate, the dude that asked the question which elicited my response was kind enough to post and say "thanks!" Now that dude has cred and will get help in the future.

So dudes, let me learn ya something: in this world you get what ya give. Since ya'll shoveled some sh*T you got some in return! Why don't you try participating in the freaking forum like good contributing members and perhaps you'll get something in return! Give something to get something!.

Good luck hunting!

Mr Predictable
08-02-16, 08:44
So I have not intentionally posted in over a month as the BullSh*T that goes around just gets to be too much and one needs a break.

But my first post back and oh look! A couple of numb-nuts chime in with more of the bullsh*T! Really? Why do I waste my time here?

I mean REALLY? We gots one member who has been around since at least 05-20-13 (first post) and has only 32 posts to his name and wants info on a girl from me! Of those 32 I scanned it looks like there maybe ONE possible post that is "review like. " HESUS! Three years, one has gotten good education, advice and b / c help from these boards and one can't be bothered to post several good reviews? You want respect on this board, quit being a freeloader and get off yer AZZ and post some reviews. It isn't all that hard, but reviews build cred. C'Mon. Man! I am challenging you to step up to the plate!

Then we get another dude who complains about this board stating that he's a member of another board and it is great and how much sharing goes on over there! LOL! Dude has 19 freaking posts here AND NOT ONE LEGITIMATE REVIEW OF A GIRL! So he expects others to pony up info but he doesn't need to share info himself? SERIOUSLY! Then he complains about "how bad" it is here and that there is no sharing? Well Sheet man! WTF have you shared? Are you Mr One-Way? That behavior is SO predictable! Maybe if you were better than those you complain about, you'd find a better reception? But I know it takes no b@llz to sit on the sidelines and throw stones. It takes real b@llz to share info here. So what ya gunna do? Attack me more? Slink off and disappear to another board? Or are you man enough to admit your mistake and work hard to fix it?

Oh, and for those that are reading comprehension impaired, I posted some pictures to show the condition / quality of le Hotel Carlyle. Period. There just happened to be a girl in the pictures. I am SO TERRIBLY sorry that I focused on her and didn't take a set of travel log pictures of the Carlyle Hotel, its rooms, the staff, the "parking lot," a street appeal shot, the behind bullet proof glass check-in or the down the hall shared-bathroom. I don't know WTF came over me and how I messed up so Gosh Darn badly? F*CK! I'm such a screw up!

But F*CK! Youse Dudes got some valuable information about that place and the "thanks" for me sharing that info was to act like the north end of a south bound donkey

I should note, as it is appropriate behavior that others should emulate, the dude that asked the question which elicited my response was kind enough to post and say "thanks!" Now that dude has cred and will get help in the future.

So dudes, let me learn ya something: in this world you get what ya give. Since ya'll shoveled some sh*T you got some in return! Why don't you try participating in the freaking forum like good contributing members and perhaps you'll get something in return! Give something to get something!.

Good luck hunting!So what?

I don't have any reviews here because for years and years you guys were having sex with crackheads. They make me want to give them money on the way to the hospital, not inspire erections. Now, you're posting legit looking girls at great prices. I'm on GFEClub under a different name and I see girls pretty frequently, but they cost more so I can't see them as often as I like.

In addition, I work all day and sometimes past normal hours as I have an emergency type job in mental healthcare. I actually know red haired Jackie (wings tat) from that setting. So, I cannot "cruise the ave" and even if I could I'm not having sex in a car in the street, anywhere, let alone a crime filled neighborhood. I've been a member here for a long time, but have had nothing to say or ask. But now, It is pretty tempting when you guys talk about nice looking girls, who do everything, and are UTR.

Every other forum, GFEClub, ECCIE, The Erotic Review, etc people share contact info, immediately. You guys are like strippers in a strip club, teasing, but never giving. And, on the other forums I don't hear about girls getting arrested or beat up due to the contact info, they likely do get more money though. Maybe you guys see these women as your girlfriends? If so, that's cool with me.

Meanwhile, to be fair, I do understand. This forum seems to cater to a lower end type of guy, maybe a Kensignton type dude, and they could be dangerous. I also understand the LE angle, but I think they would be more likely to go after higher end girls, and they still don't via my inof from other forums. I get the caution. But, if you have only back channel info, keep it to PMs and don't rub the rest of our noses in it.

Bigtime Monger
08-02-16, 12:34
I'm a long standing member of another forum and guys share info freely, it's great. I'm noticing here pics are posted but no shares any info, so it's just a way to show off I guess.Your observation is accurate, Mr. Predictable. I'm a long-standing member of THIS forum, and I have observed one particular member here who epitomizes the show-off personality disorder you describe. I feel really sorry for him, because he seems to have been born with qualities many of us find repulsive.

I hope he can seek out professional help before it's too late (he's 70 years old). I hope he can get the courage to come out here and admit he is gay (it's ok, this is the year 2016!) I hope he can look at the 1000's of repetitive photos he's posted here over the years and admit such excess is simply perverted. I hope he can look at his made-up stories of his BBBJs and YMMVs and realize he is simply a prevaricator and a narcissist. I hope he can realize, as you did Mr. Predictable, that he's offering no helpful information, just porn.

There is humor, of course, to watching such a person perform here:

There was the time he attempted to describe where the Hotel Carlyle is: he got the street name wrong, he got the location wrong.

There was the time he earnestly asked whether he should carry a gun when driving the stroll.

There was the time he made a long post describing assault weapons and which one he would recommend his daughter use.

There was the time he posted ten photos of assholes.

There was the time he stormed off and said he was never coming back (we wish!

There was the time he made up one of his many aliases (Captain Quickdraw) because he was so embarrased at himself.

There was the time he and Supereloquent traded insults like little girls.

There was the time (many) he posted photos of a girl without her permission.

There was the time (many) he had a girl bend over in degrading poses so he could "show off" his perversion online.

There was the time when he reminisced about looking at his underage neighbor undressing.

There was the time (many) when he talked about "spinners", obviously showing a preference for underage girls / boys.

I guess it's nice to laugh at this guy and view his porn. Even though this is an information site, not a porn site. It takes all kinds, right, Mr. Predictable? I just hope the old man can get some help.

Glockman
08-02-16, 15:55
Your observation is accurate, Mr. Predictable.

There was the time he posted ten photos of assholes.Were you one of them?

Bigtime Monger
08-02-16, 20:44
Were you one of them?Who knows? The ceilings at the Carlyle have a lot of cracks. Maybe he gets his jollies from the second floor there with his closeup lens.

Mr Predictable
08-02-16, 21:33
Your observation is accurate, Mr. Predictable. I'm a long-standing member of THIS forum, and I have observed one particular member here who epitomizes the show-off personality disorder you describe. I feel really sorry for him, because he seems to have been born with qualities many of us find repulsive.

I hope he can seek out professional help before it's too late (he's 70 years old). I hope he can get the courage to come out here and admit he is gay (it's ok, this is the year 2016!) I hope he can look at the 1000's of repetitive photos he's posted here over the years and admit such excess is simply perverted. I hope he can look at his made-up stories of his BBBJs and YMMVs and realize he is simply a prevaricator and a narcissist. I hope he can realize, as you did Mr. Predictable, that he's offering no helpful information, just porn.

There is humor, of course, to watching such a person perform here:

There was the time he attempted to describe where the Hotel Carlyle is: he got the street name wrong, he got the location wrong.

There was the time he earnestly asked whether he should carry a gun when driving the stroll.

There was the time he made a long post describing assault weapons and which one he would recommend his daughter use.

There was the time he posted ten photos of assholes.

There was the time he stormed off and said he was never coming back (we wish!

There was the time he made up one of his many aliases (Captain Quickdraw) because he was so embarrased at himself.

There was the time he and Supereloquent traded insults like little girls.

There was the time (many) he posted photos of a girl without her permission.

There was the time (many) he had a girl bend over in degrading poses so he could "show off" his perversion online.

There was the time when he reminisced about looking at his underage neighbor undressing.

There was the time (many) when he talked about "spinners", obviously showing a preference for underage girls / boys.

I guess it's nice to laugh at this guy and view his porn. Even though this is an information site, not a porn site. It takes all kinds, right, Mr. Predictable? I just hope the old man can get some help.Wow, that was a good post and darkly funny.

That is why I used to come and read this forum, it was an interesting insight into the actions of people like Jackie and the unusual posters, like you describe. Personally, I think it's a weird fetish and a hatred of women to go after the extremely debilitated and emaciated girls like we used to see her. The Baltimore section is also extremely weird in that respect if you ever look there. In fact many boards on this sight have the worst looking women ever and only a nut could get turned on by some suicidal wreck. However, like I've said, I think our Philly board is getting better.

But, it was still suck if it's just about showing off about some girl you found. It is not a "hobby" that we're all having fun with. And, by the looks of it, these girls could use the money. But, if you're a selfish fuck, you want to keep them poor and other jealous of you. That's not my idea of fun.

Still, for pure entertainment value, it's hard to beat this site sometimes!

Mr Predictable
08-02-16, 21:35
Were you one of them?I always say, the asshole is the most important part of the body, it gets rid of all the shit.

KStreetWatcher
08-03-16, 06:56
I guess it's nice to laugh at this guy and view his porn. Even though this is an information site, not a porn site. It takes all kinds, right, Mr. Predictable? I just hope the old man can get some help.Jealous BTM? Must be why else are you ranting against a guy who never did anything against you.

SIGH.

KSW.

Bigtime Monger
08-03-16, 16:25
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Bigtime Monger
03-05-17, 12:43
Lights out. Show is over. Time to go home. Closing time. Skankers. Don't gave us; we will call you.Agreed! The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.

KStreetWatcher
07-06-17, 06:38
Are you implying that she may be a witch? Are you worried that she may work a, Love Spell, on you? As long as her head doesn't spin around and she doesn't start spitting gross green glop, I'd fuck her. I've always thought witches would have some good pussy. After all, if bad girls rock, who can be as bad as a demonic witch?

Of all of the things that My-Ann has or has not got going for her, the least objective is that tattoo IMHO.

CookyJar

PS: I noticed that she doesn't have a, "Tramp Stamp," which is the only tat that I kind of like.I knew this may be met with controversy. Scared OMG bring it I fear no witch, warlock, werewolf, voodoo priestess etc. Superstitious? Not in the least. I am a Christian and I make NO room in my life for anything that glorifies darkness, death and Satan. What is the purpose of that hideous tat?? We all have our standards and you CJ and SP have yours. I won't try to sway any of you so please don't try to undermine mine because I won't listen on this topic. IT'S not that she has tats it's the content of that one in particular and it's a boner killer for me. She is cute but I won't touch her she is all yours. Some of you may even seek her out because she has satanic tats but not me.

Good Hunting Gents.

KSW.

Procedure Turn
07-13-17, 19:18
I knew this may be met with controversy. Scared OMG bring it I fear no witch, warlock, werewolf, voodoo priestess etc. Superstitious? Not in the least. I am a Christian and I make NO room in my life for anything that glorifies darkness, death and Satan. What is the purpose of that hideous tat?? We all have our standards and you CJ and SP have yours. I won't try to sway any of you so please don't try to undermine mine because I won't listen on this topic. IT'S not that she has tats it's the content of that one in particular and it's a boner killer for me. She is cute but I won't touch her she is all yours. Some of you may even seek her out because she has satanic tats but not me.

Good Hunting Gents.

KSW.Hi,

I don't post ever. But have lurked here for many years. I think I may have even exchanged a PM w Cooky at one point. Been down with the K for many yrs and have gotten to know many souls out there.

Are-Yan I've hung with several times. Nice girl. No bad vibes. No satanic stuff. LOL to miss out on this gem b / c of some perceived evilness is just plain silly.

She has a sweet heart and is a kind and good girl. You can't judge people by that tats. That's just silly.

She goes all out no complaints. I've got out my way for her too. Totally trust worthy.

I've met some evil ones who have no tats. But are-Yan. She's a dream. Hot body. Hot everything.

She is close to a 10 and I don't mean on looks alone.

Bye now.

KStreetWatcher
07-14-17, 06:20
I agree with you that Ryan is a nice girl. I've never had any issues with her either. I don't think KStreetWatcher was really judging anyone. I believe he was just stating a preference. We all have what we find attractive and unattractive. He simply does not find that type of tat his cup of tea.

I know plenty of women that for different reasons I do not find them to be attractive to me. I make no judgements about them. Its just a fact of life. When dealing with various elements I find it interesting what others may see in a provider. In as much as I find what you have to say of Ryan interesting. What I have noticed over the years is there may be fifteen guys that like a girl and thirteen for reasons of their own don't. Each of us make our own minds up about who we play on the playground with. Those are choices we make not judgements. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.Gator you have been around for a while and I respect your opinion on this forum and I hope Mr CJ doesn't take this wrong I love his work. I am not judging this girl at all it is not my place to judge anyone. It is my place to not give Satan any place in my life what so ever. I have Christian standards that I live by some like PT down there will say I'm silly but I acknowledge Christ as my savior and give Satan not a millimeter in my life.

I am not saying this girl worships Satan or she is evil I don't even know her that would be ridiculous. BUT as a Christian I have religious standards if PT thinks that tat is OK why not duplicate it on his silly face. Have you ever heard of the mark of the beast? I would bet most on this forum have NO religion at all that is the trend in America today. For me I will not ever glorify the angle of death / darkness / Satan on my body, in my home or in my life period. If a dude had tats like this on him then he and I could never be friends, he wouldn't even be allowed in my house. If he says I didn't do it to acknowledge Satan and I don't worship the devil. My answer is if you worshiped the Lord you would know better than to get that Satanic shit stain on your body. Am I a sinner?? Hell yes I am and always will be that's why Christ died because he knew I would fail. I have standards set by my faith I'm sorry if my Lord offends you.

KSW.

NvrStlPhilly
07-17-17, 11:28
Gator you have been around for a while and I respect your opinion on this forum and I hope Mr CJ doesn't take this wrong I love his work. I am not judging this girl at all it is not my place to judge anyone. It is my place to not give Satan any place in my life what so ever. I have Christian standards that I live by some like PT down there will say I'm silly but I acknowledge Christ as my savior and give Satan not a millimeter in my life.

I am not saying this girl worships Satan or she is evil I don't even know her that would be ridiculous. BUT as a Christian I have religious standards if PT thinks that tat is OK why not duplicate it on his silly face. Have you ever heard of the mark of the beast? I would bet most on this forum have NO religion at all that is the trend in America today. For me I will not ever glorify the angle of death / darkness / Satan on my body, in my home or in my life period. If a dude had tats like this on him then he and I could never be friends, he wouldn't even be allowed in my house. If he says I didn't do it to acknowledge Satan and I don't worship the devil. My answer is if you worshiped the Lord you would know better than to get that Satanic shit stain on your body. Am I a sinner?? Hell yes I am and always will be that's why Christ died because he knew I would fail. I have standards set by my faith I'm sorry if my Lord offends you.

KSW.This is NOT church or Sunday breakfast.

Thanks.

CookyJar
07-17-17, 20:26
I have standards set by my faith I'm sorry if my Lord offends you.
KSW.I am not prepared to start up a religious debate. I do want to comment on what's been said and the right to say it without unnecessary, foolish and nonconstructive comments.

KStreetWatcher has every right to his opinions and beliefs. And, I for one appreciate his sharing them. I am not a religious person. I do think of myself as being a moral person. I struggle with the right and wrong that I contribute to the girls that I photograph. The message that I personally got from KStreetWatcher's post was that an everyday human being can be both moral and a monger.

KStreetWatcher! Your Lord does not offend me in any way. However, I must say that over the years some of his self-serving followers have gotten on my nerves. They often take his teachings of love and tolerance and turn them into fire and brimstone lessons.

I respect you standards and appreciate your contribute.

CookyJar.

Bigtime Monger
07-18-17, 22:31
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I redacted this because not only are you an asshole you are also wrong. That "certain monger" didn't post here.
The post you are crowing about as evidence of his hypocrisy was posted elsewhere and I moved it here.

So, now that you have been proven to be as wrong as a human can be are you big enough to post an apology?

I didn't think so which is why I changed your user title

A2

Bigtime Monger
07-19-17, 16:50
That "certain monger" didn't post here.
The post you are crowing about as evidence of his hypocrisy was posted elsewhere and I moved it here.

So, now that you have been proven to be as wrong as a human can be are you big enough to post an apology?Sure. I'm happy to apologize. And thanks for keeping the un-useful comments out of the report threads!

A2 is impressed.

Tip o the hat to the man for having integrity.

A2

BobGopal
09-14-17, 09:49
No offence to anyone, sometime when I read the reviews here, mainly in AMP reviews, they are too good to be true. I was reading a post from a TNA provider that some dude reached out to her, that he will write nice review about her if she pay $75 per review.

Not sure these reviews here also the same. Either they are writing reviews for money or they might be the one running the AMP. So fellow mongers, don't expect same experience or jump to go there based on reviews.

I am just another monger who does have some experience.

"Good Good Time" guy is bailing out saying "You can go check my profile, decent number of reviews, all authentic". if your review is true, you dont need bailout statements

Good Good Time
09-14-17, 23:37
No offence to anyone, sometime when I read the reviews here, mainly in AMP reviews, they are too good to be true. I was reading a post from a TNA provider that some dude reached out to her, that he will write nice review about her if she pay $75 per review.

Not sure these reviews here also the same. Either they are writing reviews for money or they might be the one running the AMP. So fellow mongers, don't expect same experience or jump to go there based on reviews.

I am just another monger who does have some experience.

"Good Good Time" guy is bailing out saying "You can go check my profile, decent number of reviews, all authentic". if your review is true, you dont need bailout statementsI felt it was necessary, given the rash of "advertisement" reviews on here. I simply wanted to confirm the fact that I am a senior member who actually had the experience. You can believe it or not, but if you can't see why saying that in this instance makes sense, nothing I write will change your opinion. However, I wouldn't screw up membership on this great site that has gotten me laid safely dozens of times for $75, or any other amount.

Admin2
10-06-18, 18:18
I have to admit, I wouldn't want sex workers soliciting work and servicing clients in my neighborhood let alone on my block. I'm pro sex work and I can understand why residents would be upset for these type of activities to be taking place outside their own front door.

It's such a shame that sex work is criminalized and sex workers are forced to solicit in the streets. Every city should have a red light industrial area for these type of activities then there wouldn't be much of a problem anywhere else.

That said, LE knows where sex work takes place regardless if it's out of a hotel, massage parlor, or on the street and surprisingly depending on the agency they will leave everyone alone so as long as they don't get any complaints from residents and the location stays quiet and low key.If you're really pro sex work what would it matter that there was some chick entertaining a few clients in your building? It happens down here I lived on the same floor as a working girl and there was never an issue.

When the hobby is legal junkies can't compete because the money is too good and real talent moves in.

A2.

Lance547
10-07-18, 15:42
If you're really pro sex work what would it matter that there was some chick entertaining a few clients in your building? It happens down here I lived on the same floor as a working girl and there was never an issue.

When the hobby is legal junkies can't compete because the money is too good and real talent moves in.

A2.Commercialised sex work belongs in a industrial location away from residential areas. If a woman wants to service a few clients per month out of an apartment that's fine, but you can't have a whole bunch of women in a apartment servicing the whole town.

Sometimes you have to think of other people, you many be OK with living around sex work but most people don't want to live around a brothel or anything sex work related.

Admin2
10-07-18, 18:55
Commercialised sex work belongs in a industrial location away from residential areas. If a woman wants to service a few clients per month out of an apartment that's fine, but you can't have a whole bunch of women in a apartment servicing the whole town.

Sometimes you have to think of other people, you many be OK with living around sex work but most people don't want to live around a brothel or anything sex work related.Does a hair salon need to be in an industrial area away from residential areas? Does an oil change shop? What about a nail salon? All of these are personal services. If you remove the moral bullshit sex work is exactly the same. It's a personal service nothing more nor less. Why don't those tight ass fucks have to think of the other people who they are preventing from getting a blowjob without wasting a bunch of gas?

Now, if a place isn't zoned for personal services and there can't be a nail shop either that's fine. In Amsterdam you have to walk past the window girls and the weed stores to get to some churches and the dutch don't seem to mind. That's because they accept that nobody got born without somebody getting fucked and fucking is good. They also accept that other people fucking is none of their business so long as everybody doing it is a grown up and doing it freely.

Remove the puritan values and there is no issue. It's just a personal service if you live in a free society.

Here this is what happens when you don't criminalize vice and stay out of other people's shit.

https://www.facebook.com/ComedyCentral/videos/amsterdam-ride-along-the-jim-jefferies-show/266040677352421/

Like Jeffries says, in Holland you can smoke a joint and bang a hooker while standing in front of a cop, that's freedom.

A2.

PS I moved this to the fight thread. Not because we are fighting, this doesn't seem acrimonious to me, but rather because it's not really about streetwalkers.

Gator145
10-11-18, 17:58
Running the strip for many is a sport. For others it's a hobby. There does exist some that it has become a job.

We see them all the time. People out there just for the sport. Those that want to prove either to themselves or to others they still got it. That's one of the fallacies of the sport.

Tricking us into thinking things are different than they really are.

Quite often here I tend to speak of realities of various situations. So let's look at the reality of the sport.

For those that are under the above impression they still got it, lets evaluate the reality. If we are paying for it then we don't still have it. We lost it the very first time we shelled out dollar one for the forbidden fruit. Don't ever fool yourself into thinking any different. It's when you get it for free, that's when you still got it.

Then there also are the fetish seekers. Those that for whatever reasons cannot satisfy their desires on the home front. So they take to the streets thinking someone will meet their needs and put the beast back in its cage for another few days. At least until it somehow gets free and the urge arises again. Many of these participants tend to want what others may consider to be out of the ordinary. So they hit the strip in the never ending search for the holy grail. Some find it few can hang on to it. Yet it's out there somewhere.

Sometimes their needs are met for a price. Other times they drive home empty handed except for the loose meat in their hand. Only to head back out another day with high hopes. The cycle then repeats itself. We are creatures of habit. That is an understood fact of the game. Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you. Happens to the best of us.

Being creatures of habit is one reason many get pulled over, ticketed and even locked up by LEO. They never truly "set up a sting". Active participants sting themselves. LEO knows creatures of habit will return given a reason to. Human nature. LEO simply facilitates the process. Dangle the bait and the fish will bite sooner or later.

There are the misconceptions also. They are the participants that believe a provider calls or text them because they are special to her. NEWS FLASH JUST IN. None of us are special. It's our wallet that is so special. You know what I'm talking about. That little black or brown bill fold that you just never leave home without it. Because without it in this game you are just like every other average Joe. What does set you apart from Average Joe and makes you someone special are those little greenbacks. Not with standing then for the short time you spend with your dream girl you become special. Hell, you even may become decent looking.

Now it's a known fact that bullshit has been running amuck for generations. Never confuse bullshit for reality. You will lose every time. I have no issue with those that have a high opinion of themselves. It serves the male ego well. It's just any time we find ourselves thinking we are special, or that a girl is any different from us guys then disappointment can't be far behind. If we try and climb that slippery slope of bullshit it's only natural at some point to find ourselves back at the bottom of the slope.

There are four major lies in our society. 1. It's not going to hurt. 2. No you can't get pregnant the first time or as long as I pull it out. 3. I love you. 3. You are special. 4. You are the best looking guy I know. Keeping that in mind please read on.

Recently I happened to read a post from Escort Reports in Virginia. Following is some of what the poster had to say. Which simply validates the misconceptions, dreams, and fallacies faced in this hobby.

Here are parts of the post. "I consider myself one that they prefer to be with, as I have had several of them contacting me, asking me to come visit. (Well who can honestly dispute the truth of that. Especially if it was a hooker that told you so)? This is probably because I am normal, decent looking, treat them with respect. (Did a hooker also mention that)? The good ones are good actresses and I have had multiple ones tell me this. I definitely do not want to be with someone who is not into the session or not friendly and accommodating. (Lucky he never ran up against an actress yet). I prefer providers 30 and older because I feel that they are doing this more by their own choice, rather than by necessity. " (Yup. It has always been my suspicion The 30 and older crowd did this purely out of pleasure and couldn't possibly be out of necessity. No logical reason they would want to do it except they enjoy it).

I read this and found myself ROTF LMFAO. Why? You may ask. The reason is the poster has over fifty posts and really should know better than some of the things they state here.

So, he considers himself a trick they prefer to be with. Dreamer, dream on. Highly unlikely at best. They have found themselves an easy mark. They prefer that steady source of funding for the drugs and what ever other vices they indulge in. When they ring his phone they have but one goal in mind. It has nothing to do with pleasing him or meeting his needs. It's their needs they are trying to meet. Before he even answers the phone she has a good idea of what the financial end result will be. Chances she already has that funding heading for a specific "need". Rarely do they ever put it in the cookie jar for future use.

I don't wish to be the bubble buster of the day. I just find what this post has to say very humorous. Is this person so deep into the fantasy he actually is at the point he believes any and every compliment hanging out of the bucket of bullshit slung at him?

Don't you just love the term Regular? They like to place that moniker on us. As we do on them. They feel if they tell the other girls we are their regular it keeps them at bay.

Here's the reality again nobody is a regular in this sport. Regular only in a source of income and to bust a nut. Then it's on to the next one.

To clarify, they say clandestinely what I come right out point blank and lay on the line. Let the funding dry up. Lose your source of income. Then I bet none of them ring you up to even find out if you made it out of the fire alive last night at your house.

He considers himself "normal and decent looking". Really? Who has a case on themselves here? We are all decent looking to someone even if it's only to ourselves. It is ourselves that do the first evaluation of each and every day. I would never depend on a working girl for myself esteem.

These girls go from zero to B**ch faster than light hits the bulb after flipping the switch.

As for normal? That depends upon what level of normal we seek. In our own eyes most of us consider ourselves normal. In Virginia normal to them could be fucking a goat or their cousin. We have our little quirks here they may find peculiar also. So it's the white coats that believe something is wrong with us.

Let a working girl get really pissed off at this guy just one time and we will see how special he is or what his level of normal goes to.

I think this is a classic case of dreaming, confusion, and misconceptions at its best.

Mainly because I have no doubt the poster truly believes what they posted. You know, that fun filled carnival ride that goes on forever until we run out of tickets. Then comes the bad news. The real bad news. We need to get off and make room for paying riders. I won't argue with any of the points he made. My position is I'm just saying the way I see it.

That's business. It's the American way. No money no honey. Right? Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

Lewdsun
10-12-18, 00:50
I'm fortunate to still have it with women in their 30's and 40's and 50's. Given my age that's very satisfying. But I've never had trouble shelling out for hot 20 somethings. 20 something girls aren't really ever going to fall for a guy my age. It's fun to sport fuck though. Sex with 20 something girls is always for sport.


Running the strip for many is a sport. For others it's a hobby. There does exist some that it has become a job.

We see them all the time. People out there just for the sport. Those that want to prove either to themselves or to others they still got it. That's one of the fallacies of the sport.

Tricking us into thinking things are different than they really are.

Quite often here I tend to speak of realities of various situations. So let's look at the reality of the sport.

For those that are under the above impression they still got it, lets evaluate the reality. If we are paying for it then we don't still have it. We lost it the very first time we shelled out dollar one for the forbidden fruit. Don't ever fool yourself into thinking any different. It's when you get it for free, that's when you still got it.

Then there also are the fetish seekers. Those that for whatever reasons cannot satisfy their desires on the home front. So they take to the streets thinking someone will meet their needs and put the beast back in its cage for another few days. At least until it somehow gets free and the urge arises again. Many of these participants tend to want what others may consider to be out of the ordinary. So they hit the strip in the never ending search for the holy grail. Some find it few can hang on to it. Yet it's out there somewhere.

Sometimes their needs are met for a price. Other times they drive home empty handed except for the loose meat in their hand. Only to head back out another day with high hopes. The cycle then repeats itself. We are creatures of habit. That is an understood fact of the game. Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you. Happens to the best of us.

Being creatures of habit is one reason many get pulled over, ticketed and even locked up by LEO. They never truly "set up a sting". Active participants sting themselves. LEO knows creatures of habit will return given a reason to. Human nature. LEO simply facilitates the process. Dangle the bait and the fish will bite sooner or later.

There are the misconceptions also. They are the participants that believe a provider calls or text them because they are special to her. NEWS FLASH JUST IN. None of us are special. It's our wallet that is so special. You know what I'm talking about. That little black or brown bill fold that you just never leave home without it. Because without it in this game you are just like every other average Joe. What does set you apart from Average Joe and makes you someone special are those little greenbacks. Not with standing then for the short time you spend with your dream girl you become special. Hell, you even may become decent looking.

Now it's a known fact that bullshit has been running amuck for generations. Never confuse bullshit for reality. You will lose every time. I have no issue with those that have a high opinion of themselves. It serves the male ego well. It's just any time we find ourselves thinking we are special, or that a girl is any different from us guys then disappointment can't be far behind. If we try and climb that slippery slope of bullshit it's only natural at some point to find ourselves back at the bottom of the slope.

There are four major lies in our society. 1. It's not going to hurt. 2. No you can't get pregnant the first time or as long as I pull it out. 3. I love you. 3. You are special. 4. You are the best looking guy I know. Keeping that in mind please read on.

Recently I happened to read a post from Escort Reports in Virginia. Following is some of what the poster had to say. Which simply validates the misconceptions, dreams, and fallacies faced in this hobby.

Here are parts of the post. "I consider myself one that they prefer to be with, as I have had several of them contacting me, asking me to come visit. (Well who can honestly dispute the truth of that. Especially if it was a hooker that told you so)? This is probably because I am normal, decent looking, treat them with respect. (Did a hooker also mention that)? The good ones are good actresses and I have had multiple ones tell me this. I definitely do not want to be with someone who is not into the session or not friendly and accommodating. (Lucky he never ran up against an actress yet). I prefer providers 30 and older because I feel that they are doing this more by their own choice, rather than by necessity. " (Yup. It has always been my suspicion The 30 and older crowd did this purely out of pleasure and couldn't possibly be out of necessity. No logical reason they would want to do it except they enjoy it).

I read this and found myself ROTF LMFAO. Why? You may ask. The reason is the poster has over fifty posts and really should know better than some of the things they state here.

So, he considers himself a trick they prefer to be with. Dreamer, dream on. Highly unlikely at best. They have found themselves an easy mark. They prefer that steady source of funding for the drugs and what ever other vices they indulge in. When they ring his phone they have but one goal in mind. It has nothing to do with pleasing him or meeting his needs. It's their needs they are trying to meet. Before he even answers the phone she has a good idea of what the financial end result will be. Chances she already has that funding heading for a specific "need". Rarely do they ever put it in the cookie jar for future use.

I don't wish to be the bubble buster of the day. I just find what this post has to say very humorous. Is this person so deep into the fantasy he actually is at the point he believes any and every compliment hanging out of the bucket of bullshit slung at him?

Don't you just love the term Regular? They like to place that moniker on us. As we do on them. They feel if they tell the other girls we are their regular it keeps them at bay.

Here's the reality again nobody is a regular in this sport. Regular only in a source of income and to bust a nut. Then it's on to the next one.

To clarify, they say clandestinely what I come right out point blank and lay on the line. Let the funding dry up. Lose your source of income. Then I bet none of them ring you up to even find out if you made it out of the fire alive last night at your house.

He considers himself "normal and decent looking". Really? Who has a case on themselves here? We are all decent looking to someone even if it's only to ourselves. It is ourselves that do the first evaluation of each and every day. I would never depend on a working girl for myself esteem.

These girls go from zero to B**ch faster than light hits the bulb after flipping the switch.

As for normal? That depends upon what level of normal we seek. In our own eyes most of us consider ourselves normal. In Virginia normal to them could be fucking a goat or their cousin. We have our little quirks here they may find peculiar also. So it's the white coats that believe something is wrong with us.

Let a working girl get really pissed off at this guy just one time and we will see how special he is or what his level of normal goes to.

I think this is a classic case of dreaming, confusion, and misconceptions at its best.

Mainly because I have no doubt the poster truly believes what they posted. You know, that fun filled carnival ride that goes on forever until we run out of tickets. Then comes the bad news. The real bad news. We need to get off and make room for paying riders. I won't argue with any of the points he made. My position is I'm just saying the way I see it.

That's business. It's the American way. No money no honey. Right? Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator..

Kbear6577
10-12-18, 08:55
Running the strip for many is a sport. For others it's a hobby. There does exist some that it has become a job.

We see them all the time. People out there just for the sport. Those that want to prove either to themselves or to others they still got it. That's one of the fallacies of the sport.

Tricking us into thinking things are different than they really are.

Quite often here I tend to speak of realities of various situations. So let's look at the reality of the sport.

For those that are under the above impression they still got it, lets evaluate the reality. If we are paying for it then we don't still have it. We lost it the very first time we shelled out dollar one for the forbidden fruit. Don't ever fool yourself into thinking any different. It's when you get it for free, that's when you still got it.

Then there also are the fetish seekers. Those that for whatever reasons cannot satisfy their desires on the home front. So they take to the streets thinking someone will meet their needs and put the beast back in its cage for another few days. At least until it somehow gets free and the urge arises again. Many of these participants tend to want what others may consider to be out of the ordinary. So they hit the strip in the never ending search for the holy grail. Some find it few can hang on to it. Yet it's out there somewhere.

Sometimes their needs are met for a price. Other times they drive home empty handed except for the loose meat in their hand. Only to head back out another day with high hopes. The cycle then repeats itself. We are creatures of habit. That is an understood fact of the game. Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you. Happens to the best of us.

Being creatures of habit is one reason many get pulled over, ticketed and even locked up by LEO. They never truly "set up a sting". Active participants sting themselves. LEO knows creatures of habit will return given a reason to. Human nature. LEO simply facilitates the process. Dangle the bait and the fish will bite sooner or later.

There are the misconceptions also. They are the participants that believe a provider calls or text them because they are special to her. NEWS FLASH JUST IN. None of us are special. It's our wallet that is so special. You know what I'm talking about. That little black or brown bill fold that you just never leave home without it. Because without it in this game you are just like every other average Joe. What does set you apart from Average Joe and makes you someone special are those little greenbacks. Not with standing then for the short time you spend with your dream girl you become special. Hell, you even may become decent looking.

Now it's a known fact that bullshit has been running amuck for generations. Never confuse bullshit for reality. You will lose every time. I have no issue with those that have a high opinion of themselves. It serves the male ego well. It's just any time we find ourselves thinking we are special, or that a girl is any different from us guys then disappointment can't be far behind. If we try and climb that slippery slope of bullshit it's only natural at some point to find ourselves back at the bottom of the slope.

There are four major lies in our society. 1. It's not going to hurt. 2. No you can't get pregnant the first time or as long as I pull it out. 3. I love you. 3. You are special. 4. You are the best looking guy I know. Keeping that in mind please read on.

Recently I happened to read a post from Escort Reports in Virginia. Following is some of what the poster had to say. Which simply validates the misconceptions, dreams, and fallacies faced in this hobby.

Here are parts of the post. "I consider myself one that they prefer to be with, as I have had several of them contacting me, asking me to come visit. (Well who can honestly dispute the truth of that. Especially if it was a hooker that told you so)? This is probably because I am normal, decent looking, treat them with respect. (Did a hooker also mention that)? The good ones are good actresses and I have had multiple ones tell me this. I definitely do not want to be with someone who is not into the session or not friendly and accommodating. (Lucky he never ran up against an actress yet). I prefer providers 30 and older because I feel that they are doing this more by their own choice, rather than by necessity. " (Yup. It has always been my suspicion The 30 and older crowd did this purely out of pleasure and couldn't possibly be out of necessity. No logical reason they would want to do it except they enjoy it).

I read this and found myself ROTF LMFAO. Why? You may ask. The reason is the poster has over fifty posts and really should know better than some of the things they state here.

So, he considers himself a trick they prefer to be with. Dreamer, dream on. Highly unlikely at best. They have found themselves an easy mark. They prefer that steady source of funding for the drugs and what ever other vices they indulge in. When they ring his phone they have but one goal in mind. It has nothing to do with pleasing him or meeting his needs. It's their needs they are trying to meet. Before he even answers the phone she has a good idea of what the financial end result will be. Chances she already has that funding heading for a specific "need". Rarely do they ever put it in the cookie jar for future use.

I don't wish to be the bubble buster of the day. I just find what this post has to say very humorous. Is this person so deep into the fantasy he actually is at the point he believes any and every compliment hanging out of the bucket of bullshit slung at him?

Don't you just love the term Regular? They like to place that moniker on us. As we do on them. They feel if they tell the other girls we are their regular it keeps them at bay.

Here's the reality again nobody is a regular in this sport. Regular only in a source of income and to bust a nut. Then it's on to the next one.

To clarify, they say clandestinely what I come right out point blank and lay on the line. Let the funding dry up. Lose your source of income. Then I bet none of them ring you up to even find out if you made it out of the fire alive last night at your house.

He considers himself "normal and decent looking". Really? Who has a case on themselves here? We are all decent looking to someone even if it's only to ourselves. It is ourselves that do the first evaluation of each and every day. I would never depend on a working girl for myself esteem.

These girls go from zero to B**ch faster than light hits the bulb after flipping the switch.

As for normal? That depends upon what level of normal we seek. In our own eyes most of us consider ourselves normal. In Virginia normal to them could be fucking a goat or their cousin. We have our little quirks here they may find peculiar also. So it's the white coats that believe something is wrong with us.

Let a working girl get really pissed off at this guy just one time and we will see how special he is or what his level of normal goes to.

I think this is a classic case of dreaming, confusion, and misconceptions at its best.

Mainly because I have no doubt the poster truly believes what they posted. You know, that fun filled carnival ride that goes on forever until we run out of tickets. Then comes the bad news. The real bad news. We need to get off and make room for paying riders. I won't argue with any of the points he made. My position is I'm just saying the way I see it.

That's business. It's the American way. No money no honey. Right? Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.I have appreciated your wisdom and insight since moving here. I listen to everyone's opinions and try to respect as many as I can. We all pay for it for one reason or another. Whether you couldn't get laid in a ***** house with a fist full of hundreds or have the mojo of Don Juan. From the 30 streetwalker BJ's to $1000 an hour escorts. As you mentioned I think the number one rule to never lose sight of is the REAL reason why these women do this. The greenbacks in your pocket. But if some guy spends his money and gets some illusion that he is special in her eyes who cares. While I agree with you he may not be the smartest bulb in the shed he hasn't hurt anyone and paid his money to get whatever feeling he wants. Does it really warrant the time tearing him apart? More than anything I think when you look at this whole thing as a sport is when it is time to take a step back a re think things. But that's just me.

Lance547
10-12-18, 13:03
Running the strip for many is a sport. For others it's a hobby. There does exist some that it has become a job.

We see them all the time. People out there just for the sport. Those that want to prove either to themselves or to others they still got it. That's one of the fallacies of the sport.

Tricking us into thinking things are different than they really are.

Quite often here I tend to speak of realities of various situations. So let's look at the reality of the sport.

For those that are under the above impression they still got it, lets evaluate the reality. If we are paying for it then we don't still have it. We lost it the very first time we shelled out dollar one for the forbidden fruit. Don't ever fool yourself into thinking any different. It's when you get it for free, that's when you still got it.

Then there also are the fetish seekers. Those that for whatever reasons cannot satisfy their desires on the home front. So they take to the streets thinking someone will meet their needs and put the beast back in its cage for another few days. At least until it somehow gets free and the urge arises again. Many of these participants tend to want what others may consider to be out of the ordinary. So they hit the strip in the never ending search for the holy grail..I do agree with you for the most part, but a few thoughts:

What isn't told in the public is that all romantic relationships are basically a barter system. All men pay for sex and female companionship in one way or another which means that there isn't too much of a difference between a wife, a gf, or a prostitute.

Secondly, working girls can absolutely prefer to do business with certain men over others. If you're a gentleman, you're good looking and polite, absolutely you can get preferred treatment.

NvrStlPhilly
10-12-18, 15:06
I have appreciated your wisdom and insight since moving here. I listen to everyone's opinions and try to respect as many as I can. We all pay for it for one reason or another. Whether you couldn't get laid in a ***** house with a fist full of hundreds or have the mojo of Don Juan. From the 30 streetwalker BJ's to $1000 an hour escorts. As you mentioned I think the number one rule to never lose sight of is the REAL reason why these women do this. The greenbacks in your pocket. But if some guy spends his money and gets some illusion that he is special in her eyes who cares. While I agree with you he may not be the smartest bulb in the shed he hasn't hurt anyone and paid his money to get whatever feeling he wants. Does it really warrant the time tearing him apart? More than anything I think when you look at this whole thing as a sport is when it is time to take a step back a re think things. But that's just me.For those that are under the above impression they still got it, lets evaluate the reality. If we are paying for it then we don't still have it. We lost it the very first time we shelled out dollar one for the forbidden fruit. Don't ever fool yourself into thinking any different. It's when you get it for free, that's when you still got it.

Gator give us examples of men who get it for free! I doubt you will find any.

If the women still has it she would not be accepting funds for her services. Works both ways doesn't it. The women still thinks she has the touch also.

Regardless of what party still has it or not the relationship is mutual use at the core level.

Gator145
10-12-18, 17:58
While I agree with you he may not be the smartest bulb in the shed he hasn't hurt anyone and paid his money to get whatever feeling he wants. Does it really warrant the time tearing him apart? More than anything I think when you look at this whole thing as a sport is when it is time to take a step back a re think things. But that's just me.I guess I didn't explain myself well. The actual post was not intended to tear apart anyone. Quite the opposite. That's why I didn't include the authors web site name or the date of the post. So if the post came off that way my apologies to all who didn't get it.

The actual intent was to alert others in the game that may have similar delusions. Thoughts of that nature puts anyone thinking that at great risk. Including the author.

Once we think we have found our comfort zone in the game we in reality are out of the zone. We always need to be wondering what' s the worst thing that can go wrong with any meeting.

To think simply we are safe in the lions cage because we gave them a steak is delusional. No matter how many steaks or how much respect we give it we remain the prey. That lion has us where they want us. They instantly begin planning an attack. Quite possibly the decisive attack. Maybe not right away, but it's coming. They wait for the one slip up from us.

The Rip Off section of the forum is an excellent source of information. Almost every post has one thing in common. That being they trusted someone they should have known better than to trust.

Nobody in the game is our friend, lover, caretaker. We are not special to anybody no matter how pretty we believe ourselves to be. A provider will tell us what they think we want to hear to gain our trust.

Patrons of the trade have always been considered an easy mark. The common thought is they will not make police contact. Making every encounter the perfect crime.

None of the providers I know are in the game because they want to be. They all have a need to fulfil. Drugs, rent, food, clothes, whatever. If they will hop in the sheets with a perfect stranger for a few dollars it stands to reason they will do or say most anything to gain what they want. Including but not limited to making us think we are special and cute.

Safety is the best tool we have at our disposal. It is not normal in any circle to place trust in someone doing something illegal. Everyone has an agenda. Providers and patrons alike. A splendid time should be had by all. That is with caution.

So this is the point I was driving and not by any stretch trying to tear anyone apart. Even so for his own safety the author should know better. It is through his and other experiences here that the rest of us learn the ins and outs of the game. No pun intended. Without our mistakes being on the forum then we have no comparison to success and failure. No matter, my position here will always be safety first and trust nobody. Stay focused on the reality of any situation. Me I'm just an 'OL Gator.

MyDarkSide
10-12-18, 20:16
you're good looking I agree with all but for better or worse, think these girls aren't interested in the slightest in one's looks. Polite, safe, clean, not grossly overweight, money, quickness to finish, perhaps an ideal age range, fetish, etc. But not "looks. " They don't care. It's just projecting our thoughts - or interests, into theirs.

Lance547
10-13-18, 22:04
I agree with all but for better or worse, think these girls aren't interested in the slightest in one's looks. Polite, safe, clean, not grossly overweight, money, quickness to finish, perhaps an ideal age range, fetish, etc. But not "looks. " They don't care. It's just projecting our thoughts - or interests, into theirs.I respectfully disagree. Sure, the hard core hookers, the drug addicts, and veterans no longer care about looks but the younger providers and simi pros are more selective and actually do find certain men attractive if you happen to be their type.

I get what you're saying, prostitutes don't care about looks but if you do happen to fit the type of man the prostitute would date outside her job absolutely you can get preferred treatment and she might even get excited to see you.

Lance547
10-14-18, 00:31
The Rip Off section of the forum is an excellent source of information. Almost every post has one thing in common. That being they trusted someone they should have known better than to trust.

Nobody in the game is our friend, lover, caretaker. We are not special to anybody no matter how pretty we believe ourselves to be. A provider will tell us what they think we want to hear to gain our trust.

Patrons of the trade have always been considered an easy mark. The common thought is they will not make police contact. Making every encounter the perfect crime.

None of the providers I know are in the game because they want to be. They all have a need to fulfil. Drugs, rent, food, clothes, whatever. If they will hop in the sheets with a perfect stranger for a few dollars it stands to reason they will do or say most anything to gain what they want. Including but not limited to making us think we are special and cute..Funny. I got close to this young woman who when I first met her she was a highly desired escort but over time she told me she doesn't do it anymore. We also got a little bit more involved and she made it seem like she didn't see anyone else but me sexually and that we could possibly have a relationship in the future.

Anyway, one night she was high as a kite and I decided to look through her phone and boy what an interesting and eye opening surprise even though I already knew she wasn't being truthful with me.

Firstly even though she doesn't advertise anymore she still does escort. Her text to potential clients were all business such as price, location, and what she doesn't do. It was really baffling to me how she would tell me that she doesn't sell her body anymore because she "values her body and mind" and that "she doesn't want to just share her body with everyone anymore" then turn around and sell it anyway even when that's how I met her. It's like she moved me from one category / lane to another.

Secondly, she has numerous other males who I would refer to as friends with benefits. She basically talks to everyone the same such as, "hay baby", or "hay boo" or "you're the true love of my life" all while asking for money or a place to stay.

She's got all of us guys thinking we are individually special to her, when actually none of us are. How can we be when she basically has like 200 some numbers and 15 core guys she mines for food, money, cigs, a ride, a place to stay, etc.

Basically this woman hops from one man to the next selling s#x outright to some, others get it packaged up as a fwb / lover, and other men get none at all. Regardless, everyday or every few days she's with a different man for the same reasons (drugs, food, shelter) all while lining up the next guy right when she's sitting right next to you. Every day 5 or 6 men constantly texting her wanting to meet up and see her but none of the men know about each other and wonder why she doesn't reply for hours.

Am I upset? A little. But at the same time I realized that this is all that this woman is capable of doing in life at this point. This is how she survives, letting men pass her around like a blunt so as long as she can get her needs met out of it. This is her job / hustle, brokering little deals with multiple men to keep her afloat and the drugs flowing without having to work and get a real job.

CookyJar
10-14-18, 00:38
I respectfully disagree. Sure, the hard core hookers, the drug addicts, and veterans no longer care about looks but the younger providers and simi pros are more selective and actually do find certain men attractive if you happen to be their type.

I get what you're saying, prostitutes don't care about looks but if you do happen to fit the type of man the prostitute would date outside her job absolutely you can get preferred treatment and she might even get excited to see you.I respectfully disagree with your disagreement. LOL If a man is that attractive, that he can tempt a prostitute away from her goal, what is he doing seeking out prostitutes? He could just walk into and mall, club or civilian outlet and pickup a charmer. That's what I use to do, before I aged and lost it. 😊.

(I get it. Even street walkers have preferences. If they've got to give it up, why not give it up to someone cute / handsome, clean, respectful and nice. Come to think about it, that my preference too, with one addition. I want her cute, clean, respectful and young. 😊

CookyJar.

Triish
10-14-18, 05:57
I agree with all but for better or worse, think these girls aren't interested in the slightest in one's looks. Polite, safe, clean, not grossly overweight, money, quickness to finish, perhaps an ideal age range, fetish, etc. But not "looks. " They don't care. It's just projecting our thoughts - or interests, into theirs.For me personally I do not care at all what they look like only that they are clean and don't smell and what their money looks like, they can be ugly as sin but if he's clean easy to be around a no hassle good date then nothing changes and if he pays good too then he is my number 1 date my first choice above a good looking date let's say and I've heard other girls talk about how their one date was so hot or whatever but same rules apply if he was a shitty date they won't see him again no matter how hot he was and if he wasn't worth the money for the amount of time then hotness counts for nothing.

Lance547
10-14-18, 09:20
I respectfully disagree with your disagreement. LOL If a man is that attractive, that he can tempt a prostitute away from her goal, what is he doing seeking out prostitutes? He could just walk into and mall, club or civilian outlet and pickup a charmer. That's what I use to do, before I aged and lost it. 😊.

(I get it. Even street walkers have preferences. If they've got to give it up, why not give it up to someone cute / handsome, clean, respectful and nice. Come to think about it, that my preference too, with one addition. I want her cute, clean, respectful and young. 😊

CookyJar.First off, did you really lose it because here in the United States it's culturally inappropriate for an older man to be picking up young girls in the mall. Now they even throw out and ban young men for disturbing and trying to pick up women in the mall.

If you were in a country like Thailand I doubt you would have any problems at your current age. I was in Thailand about 4 years ago and seen plenty of 55+ men walking around in the malls hand and hand with young Thai girls where here in the United States or the UK those same men would probably be all alone.

Secondly, in America, there has been a huge cultural change from the 1960's to our current day and time. Back in the day of free love and pre AIDS era it was much easier to pick up the K-Mart shopping chicks and have sex just for the fun of it. In the old days women weren't as mercenary and had sex for the sake of it because that was the culture at that time.

Now?? American women don't give away sex as freely like the older generation did because they have been told by the older gals that it's selling themselves short or that they could contract an STD. Furthermore, your average young girl today no longer shops at K-Mart because thier standards have increased to where young women now shop for designer shoes and clothes and 1000 $ iPhones along with having the difficulty of trying to survive in a era of unprecedented financial challenges so young girls today as a generation are signing up to be sugar babies or escorting on the side.

Lastly, it has been told to me a few years ago that they're now telling young pro athletes to avoid groupies and seek out prostitutes because prostitutes won't try to get pregnant, claim rape later, or put all of your private business online. Essentially everything has flipped to where today in the era of #meetoo, and corrupt divorce court an American man is now better off seeking out sex workers for companionship and avoiding regular girls.

Gator145
10-14-18, 10:19
Funny. I got close to this young woman who when I first met her she was a highly desired escort but over time she told me she doesn't do it anymore. We also got a little bit more involved and she made it seem like she didn't see anyone else but me sexually and that we could possibly have a relationship in the future.

Anyway, one night she was high as a kite and I decided to look through her phone and boy what an interesting and eye opening surprise even though I already knew she wasn't being truthful with me.

Firstly even though she doesn't advertise anymore she still does escort. Her text to potential clients were all business such as price, location, and what she doesn't do. It was really baffling to me how she would tell me that she doesn't sell her body anymore because she "values her body and mind" and that "she doesn't want to just share her body with everyone anymore" then turn around and sell it anyway even when that's how I met her. It's like she moved me from one category / lane to another.

Secondly, she has numerous other males who I would refer to as friends with benefits. She basically talks to everyone the same such as, "hay baby", or "hay boo" or "you're the true love of my life" all while asking for money or a place to stay.

She's got all of us guys thinking we are individually special to her, when actually none of us are. How can we be when she basically has like 200 some numbers and 15 core guys she mines for food, money, cigs, a ride, a place to stay, etc.

Basically this woman hops from one man to the next selling s#x outright to some, others get it packaged up as a fwb / lover, and other men get none at all. Regardless, everyday or every few days she's with a different man for the same reasons (drugs, food, shelter) all while lining up the next guy right when she's sitting right next to you. Every day 5 or 6 men constantly texting her wanting to meet up and see her but none of the men know about each other and wonder why she doesn't reply for hours.

Am I upset? A little. But at the same time I realized that this is all that this woman is capable of doing in life at this point. This is how she survives, letting men pass her around like a blunt so as long as she can get her needs met out of it. This is her job / hustle, brokering little deals with multiple men to keep her afloat and the drugs flowing without having to work and get a real job.I find what you have to say here as quite interesting and valued information to those that may think otherwise. It not only validates what I previously said, but can serve as a wake up call for the many that think they have become special to that certain girl. Only to find out down the pike she took him for a ride in his own car. Keeping an open mind and clear understanding of what can, and more often than not will, happen is paramount to a mongers survival. I'm not saying every guy should have a hard on for every girl he meets. Just the pitfalls and traps we step into with every one of them are numerous. Granted there are good girls. They remain good girls till they don't get what they need and want. Keeping that in mind given the choice of meeting her needs or staying with Mr. Special, he's going to go first every time. I'll bet dollars to donuts.

Understanding a girl is saying to somebody else exactly, almost word for word, what she's telling you.

At any moment she may care for someone. Key word there is "moment". Because when the next one takes our place she now cares for him we become a lost memory. If a girl doesn't hear the ca ching then her thoughts are on those that make her hear it. You are completely right. It's about food, shelter, drugs, clothes and necessities of need. The needs rarely change. Only how she meets them do.

Your post contains valuable guidelines that all should take in to consideration. Nobody here can convince me a working girl has us or our best interest in mind. If the girl you speak of has a special client die then another special client will take his place as quick as an hour after death. Understanding that is pretty basic. Me' I'm just an 'OL Gator.

NvrStlPhilly
10-16-18, 14:52
I guess I didn't explain myself well. The actual post was not intended to tear apart anyone. Quite the opposite. That's why I didn't include the authors web site name or the date of the post. So if the post came off that way my apologies to all who didn't get it.

The actual intent was to alert others in the game that may have similar delusions. Thoughts of that nature puts anyone thinking that at great risk. Including the author.

Once we think we have found our comfort zone in the game we in reality are out of the zone. We always need to be wondering what' s the worst thing that can go wrong with any meeting.

To think simply we are safe in the lions cage because we gave them a steak is delusional. No matter how many steaks or how much respect we give it we remain the prey. That lion has us where they want us. They instantly begin planning an attack. Quite possibly the decisive attack. Maybe not right away, but it's coming. They wait for the one slip up from us.

The Rip Off section of the forum is an excellent source of information. Almost every post has one thing in common. That being they trusted someone they should have known better than to trust.

Nobody in the game is our friend, lover, caretaker. We are not special to anybody no matter how pretty we believe ourselves to be. A provider will tell us what they think we want to hear to gain our trust.

Patrons of the trade have always been considered an easy mark. The common thought is they will not make police contact. Making every encounter the perfect crime.

None of the providers I know are in the game because they want to be. They all have a need to fulfil. Drugs, rent, food, clothes, whatever. If they will hop in the sheets with a perfect stranger for a few dollars it stands to reason they will do or say most anything to gain what they want. Including but not limited to making us think we are special and cute.

Safety is the best tool we have at our disposal. It is not normal in any circle to place trust in someone doing something illegal. Everyone has an agenda. Providers and patrons alike. A splendid time should be had by all. That is with caution.

So this is the point I was driving and not by any stretch trying to tear anyone apart. Even so for his own safety the author should know better. It is through his and other experiences here that the rest of us learn the ins and outs of the game. No pun intended. Without our mistakes being on the forum then we have no comparison to success and failure. No matter, my position here will always be safety first and trust nobody. Stay focused on the reality of any situation. Me I'm just an 'OL Gator.The John thinks he is special and the Hoe plays up and manipulates the John's thinking! The John is not special; there are are say 15 within the Black Widows's grasp.

Gator145
10-17-18, 06:32
The John thinks he is special and the Hoe plays up and manipulates the John's thinking! The John is not special; there are are say 15 within the Black Widows's grasp.Ha! Ha! Ha! I agree. Truer words never spoken. I couldn't have said it any better. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

Kbear6577
10-17-18, 15:44
For those that are under the above impression they still got it, lets evaluate the reality. If we are paying for it then we don't still have it. We lost it the very first time we shelled out dollar one for the forbidden fruit. Don't ever fool yourself into thinking any different. It's when you get it for free, that's when you still got it.

Gator give us examples of men who get it for free! I doubt you will find any.

If the women still has it she would not be accepting funds for her services. Works both ways doesn't it. The women still thinks she has the touch also.

Regardless of what party still has it or not the relationship is mutual use at the core level.Maybe I am missing something or we are talking about two different worlds. Paying for it has absolutely nothing to do with still having "it" or not having "it". Maybe for a $20 BJ from a streetwalker but I am never one to cast judgement on anyone for who they choose to pay or why they choose to pay. I guess all of those politicians and celebrities that pay escorts all the time have just lost "it" and couldn't go out and pick up a piece if they wanted to. When I am traveling for business I guess I could go to the hotel bar and play the game. But I would rather take 5 minutes to pick up the phone, place my order, and be done with it. As for women that accept funds for their services not having "it". This one had it when I saw her a couple of weeks ago. https://www.cupidsescorts.ca/escorts/isys/ . Can't imagine guys telling her no for free. Point is there are many reasons as to shy we all do what we do and still having "it" or not having "it" has very little to do with it.

I do very much agree with your last point though.

Kbear6577
10-24-18, 15:44
I reached out to Savannah yesterday morning and she sent me a couple of photos of what I requested and donation requests the same that were stated in email. One of the photos she sent me there was Paula I believe and some guy there also in the photo. Not sure if these 2 have a handler or not but seeing a guy in the photo kinda bugs me a little. Anyway after I received the photos I asked her a few questions and never got another response the rest of the day. Savannah is hot and I still want to see her. I'll try again today to reach her. Stay safe my friends.I have texted her 3 times with no response. Don't care how hot she is. Philly sucks for quality providers. Thank god for my job which sends me to places that make down here look like chopped liver. Good luck if you see her, hope all goes well and you have a great time.

Lance547
10-24-18, 20:40
I have texted her 3 times with no response. Don't care how hot she is. Philly sucks for quality providers. Thank god for my job which sends me to places that make down here look like chopped liver. Good luck if you see her, hope all goes well and you have a great time.Philly is horrific along with other states on the east coast. I use to live in California for a number of years and I took living in California for granted. In California you had all racial groups to choose from as well as exotic mixed looking women. I would say the hottest women I seen in California were the sexy young Latinas and Asian women. I never picked up any SW or gals online in those days but I look at the ads online in California just for kicks and I know I'm missing out compared to what I have now.

Reminds me I had a family reunion about 2 years ago in New Jersey and was talking to a cousin of mine who was living in Florida about women and we both came to the conclusion that the quality of women on the east coast, particularly the Mid-Atlantic Region has plummeted. He was showing me pics of the girls he was with in Florida and you couldn't find a comparable woman walking down the street in New Jersey where we were at. There are hot girls in New Jersey but they're clustered in certain areas.

In Philadelphia in particular the demographics consist of predominantly African and Caucasian. I remember coming back to philly and being in culture shock because I didn't see any mixed or Asian or Hispanic female representation.

Anyway the black girls in philly these days most of them are overweight, too many are ghetto, and they live in bad neighborhoods so I don't seem them. I had one really hot black provider who was beauty pageant material in philly but she was in a really bad part of town and after she got shot during a robbery / rape attempt I stopped going to see her. It was just too depressing.

What's left in Philadelphia is the huge population of Caucasian women who range from average looking to really hot but the problem is that most of the white women who provide are hard core drug addicts which makes them unpredictable and unreliable for starters. And secondly the drug use catches up to them because it ruins their looks, I know of some really pretty white girls who now have hardly any teeth, are rail thin / fat and flabby, and look like zombies. And those are the women who are still alive, I know of a few white girls who are now deceased from drug overdose. This is one of them: https://escortbabylon.net/#philadelphia / info /2156646698/20566398.

In philly you have to search diligently and get them when they are young and new to the scene and just enjoy the short time you have with them because either they will soon disappear (leave the lifestyle) for good or the drug addiction will take over and ruin them.

NvrStlPhilly
01-07-19, 07:14
I guess I didn't explain myself well. The actual post was not intended to tear apart anyone. Quite the opposite. That's why I didn't include the authors web site name or the date of the post. So if the post came off that way my apologies to all who didn't get it.

The actual intent was to alert others in the game that may have similar delusions. Thoughts of that nature puts anyone thinking that at great risk. Including the author.

Once we think we have found our comfort zone in the game we in reality are out of the zone. We always need to be wondering what' s the worst thing that can go wrong with any meeting.

To think simply we are safe in the lions cage because we gave them a steak is delusional. No matter how many steaks or how much respect we give it we remain the prey. That lion has us where they want us. They instantly begin planning an attack. Quite possibly the decisive attack. Maybe not right away, but it's coming. They wait for the one slip up from us.

The Rip Off section of the forum is an excellent source of information. Almost every post has one thing in common. That being they trusted someone they should have known better than to trust.

Nobody in the game is our friend, lover, caretaker. We are not special to anybody no matter how pretty we believe ourselves to be. A provider will tell us what they think we want to hear to gain our trust.

Patrons of the trade have always been considered an easy mark. The common thought is they will not make police contact. Making every encounter the perfect crime..I am catching up on my posts!

Gator comments are an Absolute Rule!

To append the statements:

Can't make a WG a housewife. It is always in their blood to not work (real job / career) and fleece a man for all their needs. This includes going to 7 11 , getting gas, or even a grocery store. The hoe constantly flirts with premeditation everywhere they go. Part of the act is wearing revealing clothing. Every man is a potential customer. Hoes' are always on the clock to say.

With a hoe it is a cat and mouse game; the hoe has the power and the man's desire to have fun is like kryptonite to Superman.

Few if any hoes are "pretty". Yes, they can be cute but, most will be turned down for a KMART advertising shoot. Heck, all women are pretty at say 22 years old. They are still puppies. I rarely see an ugly puppy. The whole litter is cute.

WG's bring down the biggest and best of men.

Suckuhh
06-19-19, 19:44
Olivia aka "Kayla' was the girl found shot to death in the Kensington abando yesturday. She was known to frequent the area and also did outcalls / online. I never dated her but I went to high school with her and was definitely aware of her dope addiction. They found her with her head blown off and naked from the waist down. There are some vile, sick fuckers out there man. Stay safe yall.

Gator145
06-20-19, 02:07
Olivia aka "Kayla' was the girl found shot to death in the Kensington abando yesturday. She was known to frequent the area and also did outcalls / online. I never dated her but I went to high school with her and was definitely aware of her dope addiction. They found her with her head blown off and naked from the waist down. There are some vile, sick fuckers out there man. Stay safe yall.Much agreed about the very sick POS out there. I'm curious given the location of the incident if it was somebody she knows. Of course, as with all addicted working girls, the Police "investigation" will be very limited if it takes place at all. With the volume of police activity in and around that particular block, it's difficult to understand how something like this could happen in that proximity without their first-hand knowledge. For those that may not have known Olivia follow this link. https://escortalligator.com.philadelphia.listcrawler.com/post/34112909/Kayla. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

Tazdude
06-20-19, 10:33
Much agreed about the very sick POS out there. I'm curious given the location of the incident if it was somebody she knows. Of course, as with all addicted working girls, the Police "investigation" will be very limited if it takes place at all. With the volume of police activity in and around that particular block, it's difficult to understand how something like this could happen in that proximity without their first-hand knowledge. For those that may not have known Olivia follow this link. https://escortalligator.com.philadelphia.listcrawler.com/post/34112909/Kayla. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.Wow, she was cute. RIP.

Lance547
06-20-19, 20:00
Much agreed about the very sick POS out there. I'm curious given the location of the incident if it was somebody she knows. Of course, as with all addicted working girls, the Police "investigation" will be very limited if it takes place at all. With the volume of police activity in and around that particular block, it's difficult to understand how something like this could happen in that proximity without their first-hand knowledge. For those that may not have known Olivia follow this link. https://escortalligator.com.philadelphia.listcrawler.com/post/34112909/Kayla. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.I'm at a loss for words. I seen her ad numerous times over the past 2-3 years. Never took the plunge due to the fact that she was strictly outcall.

A similar incident happened about 2 years ago with an escort who worked out of the Huntington Park area off Broad street. She worked out of her home. As she told the story to me, she was expecting one John but as soon as she opened the door 2 other men rushed in so 3 males all total where in her home demanding cash and then tried to rape her. She fought back and one man shot her in the face and they all ran out. She survived but only can see out of one eye now and will forever have problems with her eyes.

American sex workers are routinely robbed, raped, and killed and this is proof why accoring to government research the average street sex worker's career only spans 5 years.

One older escort I knew who has since long disappeared told me over her working career she was raped 4 times. Never reported anything. It's absolutely shameful that sex work could at least be decriminalized so sex workers can report the violent Johns and get them off the streets.

I'm so disgusted with male violence towards women. No woman (drug addict or not) should ever be shot in the face and left for dead in an abandoned building. Rest in peace Olivia. You will always be remembered.

Admin2
06-20-19, 23:18
I'm at a loss for words. I seen her ad numerous times over the past 2-3 years. Never took the plunge due to the fact that she was strictly outcall.

A similar incident happened about 2 years ago with an escort who worked out of the Huntington Park area off Broad street. She worked out of her home. As she told the story to me, she was expecting one John but as soon as she opened the door 2 other men rushed in so 3 males all total where in her home demanding cash and then tried to rape her. She fought back and one man shot her in the face and they all ran out. She survived but only can see out of one eye now and will forever have problems with her eyes.

American sex workers are routinely robbed, raped, and killed and this is proof why accoring to government research the average street sex worker's career only spans 5 years.

One older escort I knew who has since long disappeared told me over her working career she was raped 4 times. Never reported anything. It's absolutely shameful that sex work could at least be decriminalized so sex workers can report the violent Johns and get them off the streets.

I'm so disgusted with male violence towards women. No woman (drug addict or not) should ever be shot in the face and left for dead in an abandoned building. Rest in peace Olivia. You will always be remembered.I agree with all of your points regarding decriminalization however lets remove the misandry. An equal number if not more men are robbed and injured in badger games, set up to be robbed by a pimp or out and out killed as women. I read these forums every day and every single day there are guys that have had guns stuck in their faces.

The issue is criminalizing a commercial transaction for service. When you criminalize something you introduce criminal elements. It doesn't matter if it's booze, weed, harder drugs, or sex.

A2.

Frasier69
06-23-19, 02:30
I'm so disgusted with male violence towards women. No woman (drug addict or not) should ever be shot in the face and left for dead in an abandoned building.Let's not forget that women do violence towards men too, though rarely in the "industry". I would suggest the following, no "person" (drug addict or not) should ever be shot in the face and left for dead in an abandoned building. This really shouldn't be specific to females only or any particular race, it's a human issue.

KamGook
08-11-19, 05:51
Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has any memories of the boxing club or anything associated with the club? I do remember the club ceased around 1989. I attended as a young boy around 1984 and trained on a Sunday morning under the instruction of Jimmy Hamilton. I later took boxing up in my late teens and trained at Springside.

Anyone that has any memories please add to this thread.

Regards,

Joe.

Lewdsun
01-28-20, 00:07
If I recall there is a song by the Eagles that references "city girls". And to be honest I'm a city guy. Been surfing the Renaissance in Philadelphia for almost 40 years. Things are on steroids. I honestly can't believe the Carlyle is surviving. It's literally surrounded by million dollar properties and they can't build them fast enough. But back to my original thought. I like Utrs. Almost all of them are city girls. They live in the city. They do dates in the city. They often have jobs and / or college in the city. They host in the city when they do tricks and they only ask that the guys come in to the city to meet. Now I can go on and on about the benefits of city life compared to that of suburban life but I won't. But at this point, meeting a girl in the city should not be a reason to not meet her. If you want to have suburban girls. They are out there. I've introduced a handful of my Utr friends recently to guys on the Philadelphia Forum and they end up blowing these girls off because the girls won't come To the suburbs. Do yourselves a favor and get on a train or a subway. Park the SUV and find some talent the old fashioned way. Eye contact and a smile. You'd be amazed how many girls will give you a number if you just ask.

NotLikeYou
02-22-20, 07:34
To the delight of many that will read this Nicole is back on the strip. After sporadic sighting's around the Clearfield exchange the past few months, she is now back to her old area.

The last few days I have seen her from Venango down to Ontario. I did see her down as far as Madison on her way to the store. She's been wearing a dark long coat with a big fur collar. Her boots stand out well also as they are silver sparkle. Something that might be seen in the Mummers Parade. No doubt it is her she's higher than a raptor in heat.

Many of the mongers would trip over each other to get to her when she was last out. She does have a good rep as a top notch provider. So don't pass her up if the opportunity presents itself. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.When you say she has a good rep has a top notch provider, what exactly does that mean?

Gator145
02-22-20, 23:51
When you say she has a good rep has a top notch provider, what exactly does that mean?HUH? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the statement was very clear what I meant. Ill type it again slower this time for those that don't read as fast as I type. Here goes, you with me this time? She does have a good rep as a top notch provider. So don't pass her up if the opportunity presents itself. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

NotLikeYou
02-23-20, 06:06
HUH? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the statement was very clear what I meant. Ill type it again slower this time for those that don't read as fast as I type. Here goes, you with me this time? She does have a good rep as a top notch provider. So don't pass her up if the opportunity presents itself. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.Yea guess we don't know big words like elaborate. Provide more detail. I didn't think I would have to spell that out for you either. Nevermind though, WHEN the opportunity that Nicole provides me with presents itself, I definitely will take full advantage of it. See ya.

DonTrask
02-23-20, 15:41
Yea guess we don't know big words like elaborate. Provide more detail. I didn't think I would have to spell that out for you either. Nevermind though, WHEN the opportunity that Nicole provides me with presents itself, I definitely will take full advantage of it. See ya.First, welcome to the USG board. If you become a student of the hobby, you will find the information invaluable to your safety and your wallet.

I mention "the role of mediator" because of the snarky (subjective on my part) comments aimed at Gator. Take a hour or two to read thru the extensive posts in the Philly and South Jersey sections and you will come to the conclusion that Gator has made vast contributions to the board and should be reverved and respected for his contributions. He is someone you want on your side because the information you can glean from his posts will save you from heartache and trouble.

Look, you are new to the board and everybody makes a mistake or two in this crazy hobby. Can I suggest that you read the 22 rules of Mongering on the home page, read some history on the board and as you put some notches in your belt, you come back to the board and share your experiences so that we might look out for the good ones and avoid the bad. That is the essence of this website, it is shared information that we all benefit from and a good percentage of us have Gator to thank for his past contributions. As a newbie, show a little respect and you will get it in return.

NotLikeYou
02-23-20, 19:38
First, welcome to the USG board. If you become a student of the hobby, you will find the information invaluable to your safety and your wallet.

I mention "the role of mediator" because of the snarky (subjective on my part) comments aimed at Gator. Take a hour or two to read thru the extensive posts in the Philly and South Jersey sections and you will come to the conclusion that Gator has made vast contributions to the board and should be reverved and respected for his contributions. He is someone you want on your side because the information you can glean from his posts will save you from heartache and trouble.

Look, you are new to the board and everybody makes a mistake or two in this crazy hobby. Can I suggest that you read the 22 rules of Mongering on the home page, read some history on the board and as you put some notches in your belt, you come back to the board and share your experiences so that we might look out for the good ones and avoid the bad. That is the essence of this website, it is shared information that we all benefit from and a good percentage of us have Gator to thank for his past contributions. As a newbie, show a little respect and you will get it in return.I'm sorry I know I'm new to this board but as far as notches in my belt I got a whole lot of them. You'd probably benefit more from the information I have than what gator has, because a lot of these girls trust me, some of them think they love me, and most of them don't even ask for a donation. My looks and personality differ from most guys I see picking up women out there. Like for instance, I bet you haven't seen erika (mia) out in trenton in a few months. Well I've seen her. If you ever want a phone number for lynda also from trenton doesn't walk the street tho I can help with that. You find out your true value and desirability to a woman when she gets herself off the dope. And Ill post a picture of one of my notches from philly that you don't see out there anymore either. I'm only willing to trade my valuable information for the info I happen to be looking for, and my first reply to gator wasnt rude at all. He took it upon himself to be an asshole. Like I said I have more information than the average senior member of this board, so maybe if I got a little respect than I'd give some.

LookinToMonger
02-23-20, 21:25
First, welcome to the USG board. If you become a student of the hobby, you will find the information invaluable to your safety and your wallet.

I mention "the role of mediator" because of the snarky (subjective on my part) comments aimed at Gator. Take a hour or two to read thru the extensive posts in the Philly and South Jersey sections and you will come to the conclusion that Gator has made vast contributions to the board and should be reverved and respected for his contributions. He is someone you want on your side because the information you can glean from his posts will save you from heartache and trouble.

Look, you are new to the board and everybody makes a mistake or two in this crazy hobby. Can I suggest that you read the 22 rules of Mongering on the home page, read some history on the board and as you put some notches in your belt, you come back to the board and share your experiences so that we might look out for the good ones and avoid the bad. That is the essence of this website, it is shared information that we all benefit from and a good percentage of us have Gator to thank for his past contributions. As a newbie, show a little respect and you will get it in return.Don Trask and Gator have passed along more great knowledge on this site than I will ever use. Thank you to both of you for sharing info about our great hobby. By the way, how does one become a senior member, anyway?

Admin2
02-24-20, 02:40
First, welcome to the USG board. If you become a student of the hobby, you will find the information invaluable to your safety and your wallet.

I mention "the role of mediator" because of the snarky (subjective on my part) comments aimed at Gator. Take a hour or two to read thru the extensive posts in the Philly and South Jersey sections and you will come to the conclusion that Gator has made vast contributions to the board and should be reverved and respected for his contributions. He is someone you want on your side because the information you can glean from his posts will save you from heartache and trouble.

Look, you are new to the board and everybody makes a mistake or two in this crazy hobby. Can I suggest that you read the 22 rules of Mongering on the home page, read some history on the board and as you put some notches in your belt, you come back to the board and share your experiences so that we might look out for the good ones and avoid the bad. That is the essence of this website, it is shared information that we all benefit from and a good percentage of us have Gator to thank for his past contributions. As a newbie, show a little respect and you will get it in return.I'm the moderator so you have no need to fill that role. I also already assigned the user title of "Forum Advertiser" to that account because it's a chick that just keeps registering over and over again no matter how many times I ban her.

Maybe next time just add them to your ignore list or just bring it to the fight thread. When you engage trolls it only encourages them to post more it doesn't solve anything. They aren't going to take an hour or two to read through somebody's posts nor the 22 rules, they are just here to see how much shit they can stir up. Engaging them, getting other members involved only helps them to that.

A2

DonTrask
02-24-20, 10:36
You are right, I shouldn't have posted what I did and I have learned my lesson. For the record, I highly respect Gator and didn't think it was right so I jumped into a fight when my assistance wasn't needed.

From here on in, I will let you do your job and I will stay in my lane; posting reviews and information on my direct experiences for the benefit of the mongering board. You wouldn't have any issues with my behavior going forward.


I'm the moderator so you have no need to fill that role. I also already assigned the user title of "Forum Advertiser" to that account because it's a chick that just keeps registering over and over again no matter how many times I ban her.

Maybe next time just add them to your ignore list or just bring it to the fight thread. When you engage trolls it only encourages them to post more it doesn't solve anything. They aren't going to take an hour or two to read through somebody's posts nor the 22 rules, they are just here to see how much shit they can stir up. Engaging them, getting other members involved only helps them to that.

A2

JTerry26
02-24-20, 11:59
You are right, I shouldn't have posted what I did and I have learned my lesson. For the record, I highly respect Gator and didn't think it was right so I jumped into a fight when my assistance wasn't needed.

From here on in, I will let you do your job and I will stay in my lane; posting reviews and information on my direct experiences for the benefit of the mongering board. You wouldn't have any issues with my behavior going forward.The relative lack of flame wars, spam and trolls on this forum is a real testament to the moderator. I complained about something recently and it was immediately dealt with. I don't know if it was my request that triggered the action but I appreciate it nonetheless.

AznKilla
03-14-20, 16:11
With the current pandemic, how's everyone handling? Less strolls, more strolls (because more time off). More SWs, less SWs on the streets?

JTown74
03-15-20, 00:21
With the current pandemic, how's everyone handling? Less strolls, more strolls (because more time off). More SWs, less SWs on the streets?I would hope people have the good sense to stay the hell away. The stroll isn't exactly conducive to social distancing.

Merge1
03-15-20, 08:06
I would hope people have the good sense to stay the hell away. The stroll isn't exactly conducive to social distancing.Stroll virtually? There must be internet sites for that. Maybe AI will take a great leap forward as we cacoon.

DonTrask
03-15-20, 08:57
I would hope people have the good sense to stay the hell away. The stroll isn't exactly conducive to social distancing.If mongers had any sense (much less good sense), they wouldn't be hitting the stroll. Far be for me to dispense advice so I am not even going to try but you should acknowledge that most of the SW's live in an informational void. It's not like they are watching TV or surfing the Internet so as a community, they are among the most ill informed in all of society.

Case in point, I hit K Ave mid week and ask the SW sitting in my passenger seat what is the word on the street regarding the Corona Virus and she had heard of it? In return, she asked me if the Chinese government is engaging in chemical war fare with the US? It's a sample size of one so I don't put too much stock in her comments but I will tell you that she wasn't going to stop playing the skin flute to do her part in social distancing. She is, above all else, a drug addict and she will do what she has to do to get her next fix, Corona Virus be damned. Markets work on the basic principle of supply and demand and I would venture to guess the supply side (SW) is there and the demand side (mongers) will diminish so for the bargain hunters will have a field day. Sad to say but that's my prediction.

JTown74
03-15-20, 11:58
Addicts aren't going to change behavior. If they could, they wouldn't be on the ave.

There's no question in my mind that obsessive behavior and addiction plays a role in some / most monger behavior as well, but we won't have withdrawal. Yes. There was always risk to this "hobby", but that risk just went up, and I think that most of us are capable of making reasonable risk management choices that mitigate the current situation.


If mongers had any sense (much less good sense), they wouldn't be hitting the stroll. Far be for me to dispense advice so I am not even going to try but you should acknowledge that most of the SW's live in an informational void. It's not like they are watching TV or surfing the Internet so as a community, they are among the most ill informed in all of society.

Case in point, I hit K Ave mid week and ask the SW sitting in my passenger seat what is the word on the street regarding the Corona Virus and she had heard of it? In return, she asked me if the Chinese government is engaging in chemical war fare with the US? It's a sample size of one so I don't put too much stock in her comments but I will tell you that she wasn't going to stop playing the skin flute to do her part in social distancing. She is, above all else, a drug addict and she will do what she has to do to get her next fix, Corona Virus be damned. Markets work on the basic principle of supply and demand and I would venture to guess the supply side (SW) is there and the demand side (mongers) will diminish so for the bargain hunters will have a field day. Sad to say but that's my prediction.

Fiend9753
03-15-20, 16:50
If mongers had any sense (much less good sense), they wouldn't be hitting the stroll. Far be for me to dispense advice so I am not even going to try but you should acknowledge that most of the SW's live in an informational void. It's not like they are watching TV or surfing the Internet so as a community, they are among the most ill informed in all of society.

Case in point, I hit K Ave mid week and ask the SW sitting in my passenger seat what is the word on the street regarding the Corona Virus and she had heard of it? In return, she asked me if the Chinese government is engaging in chemical war fare with the US? It's a sample size of one so I don't put too much stock in her comments but I will tell you that she wasn't going to stop playing the skin flute to do her part in social distancing. She is, above all else, a drug addict and she will do what she has to do to get her next fix, Corona Virus be damned. Markets work on the basic principle of supply and demand and I would venture to guess the supply side (SW) is there and the demand side (mongers) will diminish so for the bargain hunters will have a field day. Sad to say but that's my prediction.Just my opinion and conjecture.

Less mongers overall. Those that do remain will be looking for bargains, more mileage for less money. That means a surplus of desperate addicts which means the chances of being set up will increase exponentially as does the chances of violent altercations. Regular civilians are fighting over toilet paper and bread. What do you think the denizens of the stroll are going to be willing to do for their habits. Also consider that there will be less traffic and normal people on the street to use as cover to blend in with the crowds but still the same number or more of Uncle Leos out and about. Although with more people staying close to home they might be dealing with more domestic disputes. That would also mean LEO might be more pissy, less tolerant or looking for something less annoying / dangerous than domestic disputes to tie up their time. In any case, too unpredictable and higher risk than would be acceptable.

If you really have a need to go out look into a high mileage strip club or bookstore since its going to safer than the street. Probably won't find any "bargains" that route but less likely you end up hurt, killed or robbed. That being said, curiosity still might get the better of me just to see what the lay of the land looks like and a sight seeing tour might be interesting of the current situation.

Grafenberg
03-15-20, 18:28
With the current pandemic, how's everyone handling? Less strolls, more strolls (because more time off). More SWs, less SWs on the streets?Just bang them from behind so they don't breathe on you.

MyDarkSide
03-15-20, 22:28
With the current pandemic, how's everyone handling? Less strolls, more strolls (because more time off). More SWs, less SWs on the streets?Of all the risks / diseases associated with this, corona probably doesn't make top 100. About 45 Americans die with hiv every day. 1. 1 million walk around hiv positive (and a great percentage are drug users.) there are probably 99 other higher risks than covid19 lol

JTown74
03-17-20, 11:31
Of all the risks / diseases associated with this, corona probably doesn't make top 100. About 45 Americans die with hiv every day. 1. 1 million walk around hiv positive (and a great percentage are drug users.) there are probably 99 other higher risks than covid19 lolWow are you missing the point.

First, HIV can be stopped with a simple condom. This can't be. HIV, and the others, aren't spread by moisture / touch. The issue is that over 15% if affected people will be in ICU, and if people engage in high risk behavior, more are in the ICU, more are exposed, and more will die.

Stop rationalizing. Watch some porn for a few weeks.

DonTrask
03-17-20, 13:41
Just my opinion and conjecture.

Less mongers overall. Those that do remain will be looking for bargains, more mileage for less money. That means a surplus of desperate addicts which means the chances of being set up will increase exponentially as does the chances of violent altercations. Regular civilians are fighting over toilet paper and bread. What do you think the denizens of the stroll are going to be willing to do for their habits.

That being said, curiosity still might get the better of me just to see what the lay of the land looks like and a sight seeing tour might be interesting of the current situation.I can't speak for everyone but my business puts me on the road for sales calls. It also provides cover for my mongering habits. My clients have requested that I stay away, employees only for now. That takes away my proximity to the stroll and the necessary cover from my domestic situation, I am out of the game until further notice.

Being a student of the game, I am asking any mongers to post on what they are finding out on the strolls, more SW's, less mongers, more LE, less opportunity? Curious minds are asking the questions, what the reality of the stroll is or will become remains the great unknown.

Bob1345
03-17-20, 14:10
I you're going to see more SW's Then ever before the reason I believe you always had that group that was on the fence about doing this maybe because they had someone helping them when needed or they had a part-time job or some other reason or source of money but now with everything closing up people out of work they may now cross that line for no other reason but they have no choice.

I don't get down there much except when visiting family but Saturday night on my way down stopping at the light at Aramingo and Allegheny there was this One on the corner when I looked over she was staring right at me with the biggest smile she was the cutest one I've seen yet down there short blond hair beautiful face about 510 511 look like I had a killer body but she had some type of long sweater jacket on so hard to tell kept staring and smiling like what the hell are you going to roll your window down or what Unfortunately I couldn't do anything as the light turned green and I took off she kept smiling I nodded and approval she did the same and that was it hope someone got lucky with that one.


I can't speak for everyone but my business puts me on the road for sales calls. It also provides cover for my mongering habits. My clients have requested that I stay away, employees only for now. That takes away my proximity to the stroll and the necessary cover from my domestic situation, I am out of the game until further notice.
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Being a student of the game, I am asking any mongers to post on what they are finding out on the strolls, more SW's, less mongers, more LE, less opportunity? Curious minds are asking the questions, what the reality of the stroll is or will become remains the great unknown.I.

BurnerAcount
03-18-20, 15:18
Kensington Ave today was popping pick up Ashley, petite spinner A cup was rushed a tad but overall not bad. Probably won't ask for her again since it looks like there is more and more options available. Anyone else going to be on the hunt today or staying away because of the virus?

TrinitHugz
03-19-20, 08:07
Are you guys staying inside? If not then you should kindly& respectfully leave it up to the younger more healthier mongers. Anyone over 55 yrs is asking for trouble. Respectfully'. Stay home and safe. CJ & Gator. You guys definitely stay the flluuuck inside please! CJ we value your Artistic Articles from time after time, Good ol Gator'. I respect your relationships you have acquired with the SW's time after time as well. THE LEGACY WILL NOT DIE. So I say that 2 say this and AS ALWAYS RESPECTFULLY. Stay duh fffhuck inside please. Most of the real ones are with me on this. CJ & G'O'G stay healthy and safe. ✌65039; peace.

JTown74
03-19-20, 19:35
Are you guys staying inside? If not then you should kindly& respectfully leave it up to the younger more healthier mongers. Anyone over 55 yrs is asking for trouble. Respectfully'. Stay home and safe. CJ & Gator. You guys definitely stay the flluuuck inside please! CJ we value your Artistic Articles from time after time, Good ol Gator'. I respect your relationships you have acquired with the SW's time after time as well. THE LEGACY WILL NOT DIE. So I say that 2 say this and AS ALWAYS RESPECTFULLY. Stay duh fffhuck inside please. Most of the real ones are with me on this. CJ & G'O'G stay healthy and safe. ✌65039; peace.Anyone going out right now is being a selfish, irresponsible, ass. It's not about the threat presented to you. It's about the threat of you spreading it and helping this get worse. It's about your threat to other vulnerable populations and to the ability of the healthcare system to absorb cases.

Keep it in your pants for a few weeks. It's not about you.

Tnt69
03-21-20, 09:07
Honestly stay inside and ride this thing out. It's not just about spreading it to compromised individuals, it's about stopping this thing all together. The sooner we hunker down, the sooner it's over. Stay safe, healthy, and who would have thought jerking off at home would save the world?! Call me captain America blue balls edition.


Anyone going out right now is being a selfish, irresponsible, ass. It's not about the threat presented to you. It's about the threat of you spreading it and helping this get worse. It's about your threat to other vulnerable populations and to the ability of the healthcare system to absorb cases.

Keep it in your pants for a few weeks. It's not about you.

Mr Predictable
03-21-20, 13:08
Honestly stay inside and ride this thing out. It's not just about spreading it to compromised individuals, it's about stopping this thing all together. The sooner we hunker down, the sooner it's over. Stay safe, healthy, and who would have thought jerking off at home would save the world?! Call me captain America blue balls edition.I have read virus specialists and they say you can't spot a virus like this, it's like trying to stop a cold in cold season, you can't.

If you read the CDC, this is largely harmless and all over the world, only the sick and very old die. I am for spending whatever it takes to protect them, which is much cheaper than closing a whole nation for an unknown period.

Mod: Can you please return my posts to normal? I am on this status due to a few posts where I agreed with another member about the need to fix up our cities. I didn't start the topic, I just posted in it. Thanks.

Mcc110
03-23-20, 00:09
The assholes waxing on about the moral importance of self distancing when how many women have died from a drug overdose with the money we provided from wanting to get our dicks sucked?

Go fuck yourselves.

JTown74
03-23-20, 13:41
The assholes waxing on about the moral importance of self distancing when how many women have died from a drug overdose with the money we provided from wanting to get our dicks sucked?

Go fuck yourselves.I shouldn't have to explain the difference to you, but since you're apparently ridiculous:

Giving an addict money that might harm them still involves free will by the addict, and the underlying issue is the addiction. You can have legitimate moral debates about the efficacy of such "donations", but it's certainly far different than engaging in high risk behavior during a pandemic that can spread to all communities. There is a rather dramatic difference in scope of impact and those impacted / free will.

So instead of rationalizing your addictive behavior, follow advice by the WHO, local, state, and federal governments, the cdc.

Mr Predictable
05-24-20, 13:07
Why should sex with no emotional attachment bother anyone?If you have to ask.

Everything about humans evolved for a reason.

Sex isn't "sex" it's part of a chain of events. People have sex as a bonding experience. Whatever makes you feel good is what you're going to stick with.

So, conversation evolved for information purposes. It's sometimes so you can determine who it's good to be around. Smiling and laughing is a signal and so on. If you combine all of those things together and you have a man and woman, then sex may happen which is yet another way to feel good around a person. That creates a couple of people who are a bonded team. Then they will then likely have a baby, which a bonded team is needed for. The baby has evolved to look and sound a certain way to make people want to take care of it.

Mentally ill people, psychopaths, very abused people, etc can be "emotionally dead" and so they don't bond with people.

You will notice that some people will "talk shit" about people "they fucked" and that's a good example. A person can give them an orgasm and they don't care about that other person, and they may even dislike them for it. I've known prostitutes who directly told me, not knowing I do this occasionally, that they think their customers are "perverts" and they can't have sex without being "high" because they're disgusted. In psychology, prostitutes who have been psych tested come up for many types of mental illness and have been called "emotionally frigid" and tend to hate men or feel little emotion for anyone. That's how so many have kids they gave up and stuff, they don't even feel for their own kids. And, drugs supply emotions those of us feel naturally.

Regarding customers, a guy might have been rejected over and over because of his looks, personality, or social status, so he's emotionally dead now to females except for the sex part, then he can just leave. He might be a psychopath that only enjoys people when there's a strong amount of stimulation "She looks like a fucked up junkie near death!" or enjoys the "hunt" or just the orgasm and doesn't care where it comes from. That explains prison sex with men, which many in Philly probably had. On the other hand, there's the guy that really wants a relationship and is starving to be around a woman, so he settles for a hooker because it's better than nothing. That person is not emotionally dead but in danger of exposing themselves to the emotionally dead.

So, the point is that if you're able to do something that is one of the most important human activities without care about its importance, there may be something wrong.

I don't typically care about any of this stuff. The reason I post it because I have constantly seen guys who sound very nice feeling sorry for these women, which is cool, but then they start to want to take care of them, as they should want to, but then get sucked into believing the emotionally dead female is going to respond to that. I saw on another board that a guy sent a girl to college after she said it was her dream, etc and of course she fucked him over. It was never her dream to go to college, or she would have been in college, not a hooker. So, that kind of stuff and wishing they were your girlfriend, etc is not healthy.

I lived out west for a few years and knew a girl who was "purchased" for 40 k because she agreed to marry a guy. She was some kind of lesbian prostitute and she, and her highly aggressive female friend, said to me, "You know, I thought that would make me happy, but I don't really like being married to him". I explained what I said here, no one can pay you to bond with them, you know, that's why you aren't happy, and plus, aren't you gay? She looked at me like she had no clue what any of it meant, and I was like, you are crazy, but didn't say that because I thought them dangerous people.

So, I'm pointing this out as a public service announcement to men here. If you're a lonely guy and just want to feel being by a woman, that's what you got to do in our world, but don't for a second think a hooker is an actual woman or that sex is all you're missing out on.

BlufInhtr
05-25-20, 08:11
If you have to ask.

Everything about humans evolved for a reason.

Sex isn't "sex" it's part of a chain of events. People have sex as a bonding experience. Whatever makes you feel good is what you're going to stick with.

So, conversation evolved for information purposes. It's sometimes so you can determine who it's good to be around. Smiling and laughing is a signal and so on. If you combine all of those things together and you have a man and woman, then sex may happen which is yet another way to feel good around a person. That creates a couple of people who are a bonded team. Then they will then likely have a baby, which a bonded team is needed for. The baby has evolved to look and sound a certain way to make people want to take care of it.

Mentally ill people, psychopaths, very abused people, etc can be "emotionally dead" and so they don't bond with people.

You will notice that some people will "talk shit" about people "they fucked" and that's a good example. A person can give them an orgasm and they don't care about that other person, and they may even dislike them for it. I've known prostitutes who directly told me, not knowing I do this occasionally, that they think their customers are "perverts" and they can't have sex without being "high" because they're disgusted. In psychology, prostitutes who have been psych tested come up for many types of mental illness and have been called "emotionally frigid" and tend to hate men or feel little emotion for anyone. That's how so many have kids they gave up and stuff, they don't even feel for their own kids. And, drugs supply emotions those of us feel naturally...If you hold both the women and the customers in such disdain, and feel they are less than human, I have to wonder why you follow this site?

You probably do not realize that your views are the result of centuries of Western Christian societies centuries of imposing their narrow and prudish values on others.

Many other cultures through out history have very different views on sex. Sex is a physical act. It is not necessarily an emotional act or commitment.

Lance547
05-25-20, 18:49
If you have to ask.

Everything about humans evolved for a reason.

Sex isn't "sex" it's part of a chain of events. People have sex as a bonding experience. Whatever makes you feel good is what you're going to stick with.

So, conversation evolved for information purposes. It's sometimes so you can determine who it's good to be around. Smiling and laughing is a signal and so on. If you combine all of those things together and you have a man and woman, then sex may happen which is yet another way to feel good around a person. That creates a couple of people who are a bonded team. Then they will then likely have a baby, which a bonded team is needed for. The baby has evolved to look and sound a certain way to make people want to take care of it.

Mentally ill people, psychopaths, very abused people, etc can be "emotionally dead" and so they don't bond with people.

You will notice that some people will "talk shit" about people "they fucked" and that's a good example. A person can give them an orgasm and they don't care about that other person, and they may even dislike them for it. I've known prostitutes who directly told me, not knowing I do this occasionally, that they think their customers are "perverts" and they can't have sex without being "high" because they're disgusted. In psychology, prostitutes who have been psych tested come up for many types of mental illness and have been called "emotionally frigid" and tend to hate men or feel little emotion for anyone. That's how so many have kids they gave up and stuff, they don't even feel for their own kids. And, drugs supply emotions those of us feel naturally.1. I respectfully disagree. Males have been biologically designed to spread their sperm far and wide as possible for the thrill of sexual conquests alone. Our DNA offers evidence of this because most of the human family alive today are direct descents from a small group of males who got to reproduce like Genghis Khan. This means even if a man is in a healthy loving relationship there is a primal part of him that wants to find and concur a new woman. This is also why after you bang a hot woman a few times you loose some interest and want to find a new hot woman to bang. Smiling and laughing means little in the grand scheme of human evolution because for most of human history young males did brutal hostile takeovers when they forged their way into new lands.

2. As far as prostitutes not liking customers. Well, it's a fact that most Johns are married and on top of that many Johns have an underlying disdain for prostitutes which a prostitute can pick up on even if they don't say anything about it. So you have a situation where over time I can see a prostitute become jaded because she's seeing all these guys who are living double lives all while they look down on you and mistreat you just for being a ho.

Qstorm101
05-26-20, 15:38
If you have to ask.

Everything about humans evolved for a reason.

Sex isn't "sex" it's part of a chain of events. People have sex as a bonding experience. Whatever makes you feel good is what you're going to stick with.

So, conversation evolved for information purposes. It's sometimes so you can determine who it's good to be around. Smiling and laughing is a signal and so on. If you combine all of those things together and you have a man and woman, then sex may happen which is yet another way to feel good around a person. That creates a couple of people who are a bonded team. Then they will then likely have a baby, which a bonded team is needed for. The baby has evolved to look and sound a certain way to make people want to take care of it.

Mentally ill people, psychopaths, very abused people, etc can be "emotionally dead" and so they don't bond with people.

You will notice that some people will "talk shit" about people "they fucked" and that's a good example. A person can give them an orgasm and they don't care about that other person, and they may even dislike them for it. I've known prostitutes who directly told me, not knowing I do this occasionally, that they think their customers are "perverts" and they can't have sex without being "high" because they're disgusted. In psychology, prostitutes who have been psych tested come up for many types of mental illness and have been called "emotionally frigid" and tend to hate men or feel little emotion for anyone. That's how so many have kids they gave up and stuff, they don't even feel for their own kids. And, drugs supply emotions those of us feel naturally..Your post was thought provoking, and that is what I'll take it as, although it danced on being pajaritive. Equating all cultural norms to the dominant European religious identity, I. E. Judeo Christian religious beliefs, allows presumptive arguments. Women's sexuality and sexuality in general has been for eons controlled in thought and practice by the dominant culture. So your statement on bonding and the conclusions pertaining to and the following formalized dictums may be a truism for many, but aren't for all.

The need / want for sex is a biological function. The control of and in many ways the social contract about that function is dictated by cultural mores, and or religious dogma.

As an example, in certain cultures married men have sex with feminized young boys. These boys then reach a certain age, where they start the cycle anew.

(https://www-independent-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/an-afghan-tragedy-the-pashtun-practice-of-having-sex-with-young-boys-8911529.html?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15905178598738&referrer=https%3 A%2 F%2 F www.google.com&amp_tf=From %251%24's&ampshare=https%3 A%2 F%2 F www.independent.co.uk%2 Fvoices%2 Fcomment%2 Fan-afghan-tragedy-the-pashtun-practice-of-having-sex-with-young-boys-8911529. Html).

Other cultures seek to "protect" girl / women with ritual abuse.

(https://www.culturalsurvival.org/publications/cultural-survival-quarterly/clitoridectomy-and-infibulation).

Judeo Christian beliefs have accomplished the same thing psychologically and emotionally for women and some men. Describing sex as for bonding and or childbirth to the detriment of a woman in control of her sexuality and body. The fear if abandonment, disease etc. As well as being seen as an outcast, while men will be men, and thus it is OK to "sow their wild oats". The prevailing dogma after the black plague, amplified the cultural controls placed on women.

Sorry for this long post, but in short / long. When you exclude what happens (often on Friday / any day) at the local pickup joint you exude a point of view periscoped to that of institutionalisation of the control of women and publicly men. I do agree that many, maybe most I have no factual proof of this, of the women and men involved in selling sex are, at this point in time addicted. They may or may not have been at the start, it does not take into account other reasons. Reasons such as adventure seekers, adrenaline junkies, sexual addiction, emotional or other mental issues resultant from neglect or abuse, rebellion etc.

The real question is why is it illegal, and why would anyone simplify the issue of prostitution to drugs and the addiction to them. Some of the most famous women where companions. Mary Magdalene, Margaretha Geertruida, aka Mata Hari, and others. At one point and also today, many women without skills, down on their luck, with children, or simply thrill seekers or just enjoy sex simply look at the economics. I freely admit that the last few maybe few, but why then pornography? Sex is economics, people marry for it,; people use it; people need it. As has been said it is the oldest job in history.

Mr Predictable
05-26-20, 22:03
1. I respectfully disagree. Males have been biologically designed to spread their sperm far and wide as possible for the thrill of sexual conquests alone. Our DNA offers evidence of this because most of the human family alive today are direct descents from a small group of males who got to reproduce like Genghis Khan. This means even if a man is in a healthy loving relationship there is a primal part of him that wants to find and concur a new woman. This is also why after you bang a hot woman a few times you loose some interest and want to find a new hot woman to bang. Smiling and laughing means little in the grand scheme of human evolution because for most of human history young males did brutal hostile takeovers when they forged their way into new lands.

2. As far as prostitutes not liking customers. Well, it's a fact that most Johns are married and on top of that many Johns have an underlying disdain for prostitutes which a prostitute can pick up on even if they don't say anything about it. So you have a situation where over time I can see a prostitute become jaded because she's seeing all these guys who are living double lives all while they look down on you and mistreat you just for being a ho.Humans evolved in cooperative groups, not alone, wandering around. Humans came from tribes of people just like apes live in.

If you try to "spread your seed" in a tribe, you're going to get killed by the women's families, LOL.

Think harder and don't just repeat you heard somewhere.

Secondly, you are wrong on your next point. No woman starts out as a loving innocent prostitute, then becomes jaded. That is delusional nonsense. You get into prostitution by being abused in some way or another, usually by men. It tends to be a psychological side effect of sexual abuse. That's especially true if your body responded to sexual stimulation and your abuser called you names and whatnot. You might think you're a ***** and become sexually obsessed. It's a classic side effect of abuse. That or a severe man hater who believes men are sexual deviants will want to "rip off" men and exploit them for money. That's why you see many hookers who are lesbians, the word is a Virago. So they're like, I gave him a hand job and he paid me a 100 bucks haha! What a sucker! Meanwhile, they also hate themselves and that's why they're involved in crime.

You have to be totally fucked up before you become a hooker, not get that way after.

It spoils the fun a bit if you realize you're buying nothing but mental ill women for sex.

DonTrask
05-27-20, 20:01
Secondly, you are wrong on your next point. No woman starts out as a loving innocent prostitute, then becomes jaded. That is delusional nonsense. You get into prostitution by being abused in some way or another, usually by men. It tends to be a psychological side effect of sexual abuse. That's especially true if your body responded to sexual stimulation and your abuser called you names and whatnot.

It spoils the fun a bit if you realize you're buying nothing but mental ill women for sex.Professionally, I know some social workers and in a conversation they revealed some very high percentage of street prostitutes are sexually abused in their teens, sadly by extended family members, step fathers or step brothers. They aren't raised in very stable family units and quickly learn that sexual favors equal money or better treatment. That's why some of the white knights on these boards need to re-evaluate their long term prospects with these SW's. They are so ruined by the time you meet them that your chances at a meaningful loving relationship are nil. Better to just hand over the Jackson, receive your service and move on.

Mr Predictable
05-28-20, 23:54
Professionally, I know some social workers and in a conversation they revealed some very high percentage of street prostitutes are sexually abused in their teens, sadly by extended family members, step fathers or step brothers. They aren't raised in very stable family units and quickly learn that sexual favors equal money or better treatment. That's why some of the white knights on these boards need to re-evaluate their long term prospects with these SW's. They are so ruined by the time you meet them that your chances at a meaningful loving relationship are nil. Better to just hand over the Jackson, receive your service and move on.That's been the message I've been trying to send.

I think this hobby is good for males as it allows them the freedom to try different things without much frustration. In the history of psychology brothels were legal in Germany, etc for the reason I just said. It was thought it was much better than masturbating because at least you had to make some kind of connection with a female. Also, it trained you to get used to their bodies, etc. Back then they were afraid men would spend too much time alone and become "autistic" if they didn't have women available. That could lead to never creating a family, which was the gold standard of mental health a long time ago.

Although things have changed I still think the basic concept is true. I think the occasional encounter is good especially if single. That or if you're trapped in some heinous relationship with someone that doesn't love you.

The worst case scenario is failing in love with a hooker or being a selfless awesome guy and giving your all to save a girl. I'm not being sarcastic either, women can bring out the best in men and that's a wonderful thing. But, if you do that with a sociopath, suicidal sociopath, or suicidal depressed worn out person, you are going to have a lot of problems. That person could alter your life or just leave a cancerous mystery in your head about why it didn't work.

I avoid all drugs, and for that crazy reason, a lot of people with drug issues like me. I'm like an alien to them and so they want to be my friend, want advice, etc and nothing more. But, several overdosed and died. One person was a very pretty woman and she messaged me at Christmas time a few years ago. I was at a friend's house at a party. I said I couldn't talk and would get back to her. I didn't and found out she had run into a healthcare insurance issue, then overdosed and died. She wanted me to help with this issue, which I probably could have.

Now, I do not make friends with people who have drug problems. They are like time bombs.

Related to what you've said, I knew this super attractive girl from the Kensington area years ago. She was very pretty and had an amazing body. But she would dress in insanely sexually provocative ways. She was the type that liked gangsters and so forth. Eventually, she overdosed and died. That was a shocker because it was like why? I found out that her dad was a monster and used to have poker night. He would make her give blow jobs to the guys under the table. She of course grew up, became a hooker, drug addict, went out with guys like dad, etc.

If you're to enjoy the hobby, you have to look at these girls like robots because until they're invented, getting involved with them or making friends is going to be a disaster.

Shampoo55
05-29-20, 11:16
If you're to enjoy the hobby, you have to look at these girls like robots because until they're invented, getting involved with them or making friends is going to be a disaster.Have not seen such generalizations, certitude and ego on display for like nearly a decade on these boards. I can predict what comes next. Sigh.

LuperCalis
05-29-20, 23:45
Have not seen such generalizations, certitude and ego on display for like nearly a decade on these boards. I can predict what comes next. Sigh.What, exactly, is it which "comes next".

What was said by Mr Predictable isn't wrong. To be a successful monger you must NEVER loose track of exactly who / what these girls are and what the precise nature your interaction is. Because they won't. They never stop thinking of you as a John (sucker) to be exploited for money. That's why they have no problems being deceptive, stealing, or having their clients setup for robbery. Those mongers who become deluded enough to actually try to "save" these damaged women leave themselves wide open for exploitation, or worse. As the saying goes: "you can't turn a ho into a housewife". Meaning, you can't convert a damaged / corrupted woman into her opposite. Only the woman herself can change. Very few can (or even want to). And even if they're somewhat 'successful' with changing their lives, the psycho-emotional scars are still there. And however, deep and tightly repressed it is, the call of the streets (their old lifestyle) will haunt them.

Therefore, as a monger, you have to be able to separate the physical, the emotional and the mental from each other. A separation / balance of powers, if you will. Yes, you might really desire to fuck that gorgeous new girl (physical) you saw when out searching; but you can't allow yourself to become so attached to her (emotional) that you starting doing things / putting yourself in situations that a sober, un-lustful, you wouldn't ordinarily do (mental). When it comes down to it: She's still a ***** and you're still a john. That's the bottom line. Don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise; and actually treating them with tenderness and respect. I assure you those feelings are one sided.

**P.S. I'm I saying you should mistreat or harm these women? NO! What I am saying is that you shouldn't be naïve or trust them with anything you hold dear. That includes (but inot limited to) your life, liberty, heart, sanity, money, belongings, address, etc. *.

Mr Predictable
05-30-20, 03:58
Have not seen such generalizations, certitude and ego on display for like nearly a decade on these boards. I can predict what comes next. Sigh.That's nonsense.

Types of people do certain types of things and you can count on it. Certain types of people have the same kind of stories and you can count on that too.

History repeats itself is a true phrase because humans only have so many tricks and keep doing the same things over and over. ****** and Johns and killers and happy people had the exact same stories 5,000 years ago as they do today.

Yes, there are exceptions but for real, we aren't all unique snowflakes.

Qstorm101
06-01-20, 13:19
That's been the message I've been trying to send.

I think this hobby is good for males as it allows them the freedom to try different things without much frustration. In the history of psychology brothels were legal in Germany, etc for the reason I just said. It was thought it was much better than masturbating because at least you had to make some kind of connection with a female. Also, it trained you to get used to their bodies, etc. Back then they were afraid men would spend too much time alone and become "autistic" if they didn't have women available. That could lead to never creating a family, which was the gold standard of mental health a long time ago.

Although things have changed I still think the basic concept is true. I think the occasional encounter is good especially if single. That or if you're trapped in some heinous relationship with someone that doesn't love you.

The worst case scenario is failing in love with a hooker or being a selfless awesome guy and giving your all to save a girl. I'm not being sarcastic either, women can bring out the best in men and that's a wonderful thing. But, if you do that with a sociopath, suicidal sociopath, or suicidal depressed worn out person, you are going to have a lot of problems. That person could alter your life or just leave a cancerous mystery in your head about why it didn't work.

I avoid all drugs, and for that crazy reason, a lot of people with drug issues like me. I'm like an alien to them and so they want to be my friend, want advice, etc and nothing more. But, several overdosed and died. One person was a very pretty woman and she messaged me at Christmas time a few years ago. I was at a friend's house at a party. I said I couldn't talk and would get back to her. I didn't and found out she had run into a healthcare insurance issue, then overdosed and died. She wanted me to help with this issue, which I probably could have.

Now, I do not make friends with people who have drug problems. They are like time bombs.

Related to what you've said, I knew this super attractive girl from the Kensington area years ago. She was very pretty and had an amazing body. But she would dress in insanely sexually provocative ways. She was the type that liked gangsters and so forth. Eventually, she overdosed and died. That was a shocker because it was like why? I found out that her dad was a monster and used to have poker night. He would make her give blow jobs to the guys under the table. She of course grew up, became a hooker, drug addict, went out with guys like dad, etc.

If you're to enjoy the hobby, you have to look at these girls like robots because until they're invented, getting involved with them or making friends is going to be a disaster.You know I just got part of it, and I recognize and feel you pain. Insinuated in your post are many truths, surrounded by litany of generalization, that hurt more than give example to some of the reality that you speak of. The overriding reality is that many of the people that you speak of have emotional, mental, medical, issues. Some are people with other jobs that don't pay much and augment the money's they need with this economic Revenue source. There are others who do both the functionally addictive. Many high-end people have exhibited the same pattern. The functional alcoholic, The Weeknd cocaine addict, the swingers and other sexual deviant as they are classified. But when you0 lose those that you would be friends with, for reasons that seem unjust is particularly painful. You a right that giving trust to an addict is Fraught with many complications as well as many downfalls. But the best thing is to have hope and peace within yourself. You can't save anyone that doesn't want to save themselves. But you can partake of that which they are willing to give you in a reasonable way that hurts neither of you. And that's what the point of all This is. Mutually receiving that which is mutually offered. As long as you go in recognizing where each party is then all the generalizations all the calling out of white Knights is really a warning into the wind.

JTerry26
01-06-21, 14:44
Get a dm question about a post, basically a quid pro quo -give me more info and I'll give you some. Check posting history. It's decent so I share. Then he asks for more. I share. Then he asks for more and I remind him of the underlying quid pro quo. He responds with a tip in fucking Edison NJ. Seriously?! On the Philly board?

Not going to name names or do something that gets me on the naughty list here but ffs (literally) this board is about sharing info that we can actually use. I don't want to hear about your hot Canadian girlfriend.

Purple Porkchop
01-06-21, 20:01
Get a dm question about a post, basically a quid pro quo -give me more info and I'll give you some. Check posting history. It's decent so I share. Then he asks for more. I share. Then he asks for more and I remind him of the underlying quid pro quo. He responds with a tip in fucking Edison NJ. Seriously?! On the Philly board?

Not going to name names or do something that gets me on the naughty list here but ffs (literally) this board is about sharing info that we can actually use. I don't want to hear about your hot Canadian girlfriend.I usually only give one answer by PM. I have yet to have one of those people respond later!

P Chop.

JTerry26
01-06-21, 23:28
I put him on my "ignore" list. If everyone legit contributes, we all benefit.


I usually only give one answer by PM. I have yet to have one of those people respond later!

P Chop.

Bunk Morland
05-03-21, 02:09
I was looking for a date right before halftime of the Bills Playoff game last Saturday Jan 9th so 2 in the afternoon. I pulled up to the bus stop on the right side by G St and Allegheny saw a decent looking bleach blond who said her name was Emily. She was around 30. She agrees to do a quick $20 date and we drive down to over by C and Indiana. So we start getting ready she pulls her pants and panties down and I take my pants down. Now I should mention she did take a whole bunch of clothes and small shopping bags which she threw in the back and she left her purse in the front. That should have been a no date that is when they want to throw a whole bunch of stuff in your car. It usually means they will be homeless and have been out all night and sleepy, also she had a little bit of a picked up face indicating she was a meth head which she told me she was. So also she with her own money got out after a few minutes to cop some meds she copped quickly but I wish I had left. She was talking a lot of irrational stuff about having a concealed carry permit and that she was connected to the mob. She was still somewhat friendly and I've never been in anything close to life threatening till her, So as soon as I get my hands and start fingering her she starts the up sell. I knew I would regret picking her up. I said ok ill give you $30 but that we better start right now. She then said ok but now she demands $40. I said ok but you'll have to trust me for the other $20 she agreed, then she continued to fumble in her purse and took my hand off her pussy. She said "hey your not in control here" she said she was a cop and that I should speak into the microphone I'm like wow this girl is just wacko but she was a psychopath also, so she pulled a knife and threatened to cut my dick off then pepper spray and held it to my face. I grabbed her hand with the knife and told her to just keep the money and get out, it was risky but in a confined space. She told me also that she had covid 19 virus and she started coughing. What a POS. I double mask up on dates. She said give me $100 I said I only got the other $20 please get out..Are you joking? You wear 2 masks to protect you from covid? While picking up streetwalkers? Really? Am I the only one that thinks this is funny?

Fffinster
05-03-21, 19:40
Are you joking? You wear 2 masks to protect you from covid? While picking up streetwalkers? Really? Am I the only one that thinks this is funny?Well, the CDC does recommend wearing two masks when in higher-risk situations. The key is to leave the mask on the entire time, and wash up.

Purple Porkchop
05-05-21, 16:30
Let me see if I get this!

Knife at throat, pepper spray pointed at your face, and you are worried about COVID.

You have got to be fucking kidding me!

P Chop.

ReadyToTumble
05-21-21, 10:40
I've seen you all complaining about lack of talent lately. Thought I'd recommend Nikki for any of you who may not know her. She's a long drive but worth it. She's in Vineland. You can scope her ads on skipthegames she's under south Jersey if you search redhead. Full menu amazing body. Cheap options and expensive options. She offers a lot.If this is her. But come man.

No way, no how would I consider this an amazing body. And I love spinners and thin girls.

https://south-jersey.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/redhead-spinner-is-back-lto/245854700700

ChrisLooker
05-23-21, 21:14
If this is her. But come man.

No way, no how would I consider this an amazing body. And I love spinners and thin girls.

https://south-jersey.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/redhead-spinner-is-back-lto/245854700700Greeaat. You were as much of a douchebag on BestGFE as you are being here on this board right now. You and your "unnecessarily hight expectations", next thing you know, we have to read your 10 page reviews talking about your big dick and how many times you make a prostitute cum while we sift through for useful information.

Cackalope was nice enough to offer you information and you get offended? Do us all a favor and grow up already. I hope A2 slaps you around a bit.

Shampoo55
10-18-21, 10:56
Wow. You should write a book. Hahaha.What was the point of this post?

BeefNoodleSoup
10-19-21, 14:14
What was the point of this post?What was the point of this post?

Shampoo55
10-19-21, 21:55
What was the point of this post?Just didn't understand the purpose of that post, the motivation, etc. I was trying to see if the OP is a smartass making a smart comment. I get enough of that. I figured I'd get a defining reply to put the post in perspective.

Perhaps you like it IF I didn't post and just went away? Dude asked for "tips" and I gave them.

The point of these threads is to help others find girls. There appears to be a fair number of newbies that could use some insight from experience. If one wishes to add to educational comments, please do so. No one knows everything and the community is enriched by different experiences, views and perspectives. So add what you know and share your experiences.

But apparently many dudes get jealous, irritated or something when someone shares "how to" information. I don't get. Get a hard on for some hot girl, not other posters! But hey, have seen quite a few who can't help but poke others from time to time, in a catty way, the way girls do to each other.

There is no "King" of these boards. What would be the point anyway? You can't put it on your resume. You can't brag to your friends and relatives. No one is going to pay you. So to take a stance along those lines seems energy expended needlessly.

Can't we all just get along, share info and help one another?

JDRedBull
10-20-21, 07:25
Just didn't understand the purpose of that post, the motivation, etc. I was trying to see if the OP is a smartass making a smart comment. I get enough of that. I figured I'd get a defining reply to put the post in perspective.

Perhaps you like it IF I didn't post and just went away? Dude asked for "tips" and I gave them.

The point of these threads is to help others find girls. There appears to be a fair number of newbies that could use some insight from experience. If one wishes to add to educational comments, please do so. No one knows everything and the community is enriched by different experiences, views and perspectives. So add what you know and share your experiences.

But apparently many dudes get jealous, irritated or something when someone shares "how to" information. I don't get. Get a hard on for some hot girl, not other posters! But hey, have seen quite a few who can't help but poke others from time to time, in a catty way, the way girls do to each other.

There is no "King" of these boards. What would be the point anyway? You can't put it on your resume. You can't brag to your friends and relatives. No one is going to pay you. So to take a stance along those lines seems energy expended needlessly.

Can't we all just get along, share info and help one another?I appreciate and thank the information and tips others have given on this site. As it saved me time and money. The more details and information that is given, the better the decisions I can make. It takes time and effort to come on here. Read comments and respond with the appropriate answers. So keep up the good work Shampoo55 and thank you again for your valuable information. Also to the other members who put their time and positive energy here. BIg Thanks guys.

BeefNoodleSoup
10-20-21, 07:29
Keep doing what you're doing. Not sure why you are getting your panties in a bunch. Hahaha.


Just didn't understand the purpose of that post, the motivation, etc. I was trying to see if the OP is a smartass making a smart comment. I get enough of that. I figured I'd get a defining reply to put the post in perspective.

Perhaps you like it IF I didn't post and just went away? Dude asked for "tips" and I gave them.

The point of these threads is to help others find girls. There appears to be a fair number of newbies that could use some insight from experience. If one wishes to add to educational comments, please do so. No one knows everything and the community is enriched by different experiences, views and perspectives. So add what you know and share your experiences.

But apparently many dudes get jealous, irritated or something when someone shares "how to" information. I don't get. Get a hard on for some hot girl, not other posters! But hey, have seen quite a few who can't help but poke others from time to time, in a catty way, the way girls do to each other.

There is no "King" of these boards. What would be the point anyway? You can't put it on your resume. You can't brag to your friends and relatives. No one is going to pay you. So to take a stance along those lines seems energy expended needlessly.

Can't we all just get along, share info and help one another?

Shampoo55
12-16-21, 10:44
Not sure if it was the late hour or the cold (in the 30's temp) that was holding them back but the cold weather brings out the parka's and hats and makes it harder to know what you are picking up. I was down at the far end of K Avenue (Buckus) and saw some monger attempting to dislodge a SW from his car. It was only successful after he grabbed her by the hair and once her feet hit the ground he picked her and attempted to throw her as far as he could. Whatever the difference of opinion was, it was sad to watch. The funny part was I made one last loop down to Huntington Station and back and there she was, manning the street corner and smiling and waving. I'm not taking sides on her previous disagreement but I can't imagine she would have climbed in my car with a sweet disposition. Thanks but no thanks.


She more than likely tried to upsell him.

Or said one thing and then changed up once in the car.

I'm more inclined to side with the Monger.

At Shampoo you need to calm down, the guy didn't hit the girl, he was just pulling her out.

This is why I stay away from the Huntingdon area.

Its just not worth it. The girls there are almost as bad as the K&A girls.

I made a report on a brunette from Huntingdon a month ago. She got out just before I thought to rip her out.

She tried to throw an open soda can at me once out, but luckily I grabbed it out of her hand.

These girls are NOT allowed to do whatever they want to you.I just don't understand that bolded comment above?

Dude stated the girl was grabbed by her hair and pulled out of the car. {see underlined part above} That my friend IS violence against women!

But it appears as though there are situations where violence is permitted as evidenced by a comment suggesting one thought about rip some girl out of the car? I disagree.

LOL, But I have to bust yer balls on that. Thought you stated that you could tell before a girl got in your car and avoid the bad ones? I gave you a chance to share techniques one could use to get a girl out of a car, since you pooh-poohed the suggestions I had, but you gave no such technique, just said you could tell. Are your knickers in a twist now?

I bet you have never tried driving to a public place with people around, opening the passenger door and LOUDLY, but politely, asking the girl to get out. Embarrassing. Yes! Gets her out or some White Knight comes to her rescue- usually. Mission accomplished. NO VIOLENCE required.

POINT IS. ANY ACT OF VIOLENCE AGAINST THESE GIRLS IS UNACCEPTABLE AND WRONG! What part of that do you disagree with?

If you try one technique and it doesn't work, try something else. Keep trying different things, but avoid putting hands on the girls. One has to be better than these girls, not stoop to their level or go lower! Don't try to justify bad behavior or make excuses, just learn how to extract a girl without violence! I am sure you are smart enough to figure something out, question is. Will you try and eschew any violence?

Good luck & happy hunting!

RoboPimp
12-16-21, 18:32
I just don't understand that bolded comment above?

Dude stated the girl was grabbed by her hair and pulled out of the car. {see underlined part above} That my friend IS violence against women!

But it appears as though there are situations where violence is permitted as evidenced by a comment suggesting one thought about rip some girl out of the car? I disagree.

LOL, But I have to bust yer balls on that. Thought you stated that you could tell before a girl got in your car and avoid the bad ones? I gave you a chance to share techniques one could use to get a girl out of a car, since you pooh-poohed the suggestions I had, but you gave no such technique, just said you could tell. Are your knickers in a twist now?

I bet you have never tried driving to a public place with people around, opening the passenger door and LOUDLY, but politely, asking the girl to get out. Embarrassing. Yes! Gets her out or some White Knight comes to her rescue- usually. Mission accomplished. NO VIOLENCE required.

POINT IS. ANY ACT OF VIOLENCE AGAINST THESE GIRLS IS UNACCEPTABLE AND WRONG! What part of that do you disagree with?

If you try one technique and it doesn't work, try something else. Keep trying different things, but avoid putting hands on the girls. One has to be better than these girls, not stoop to their level or go lower! Don't try to justify bad behavior or make excuses, just learn how to extract a girl without violence! I am sure you are smart enough to figure something out, question is. Will you try and eschew any violence?

Good luck & happy hunting!Well we seem to disagree then.
Sometimes you gotta do whatchu gotta do Mane!
Obviously you've never had a girl in your car refusing to leave and trying to set you up, or extort you.


BTW I garauntee her hair gets pulled harder every night.

RoboPimp
12-16-21, 18:46
Get a dm question about a post, basically a quid pro quo -give me more info and I'll give you some. Check posting history. It's decent so I share. Then he asks for more. I share. Then he asks for more and I remind him of the underlying quid pro quo. He responds with a tip in fucking Edison NJ. Seriously?! On the Philly board?

Not going to name names or do something that gets me on the naughty list here but ffs


Lmao.

Sounds like he was treating you like some of these Cheap ass Mongers treat the girls.

"Oh you want $20? I only got $5. "

RoboPimp
12-16-21, 18:52
Keep doing what you're doing. Not sure why you are getting your panties in a bunch. Hahaha.Shampoo isn't the same before he's had his Morning Beejay, Coffee and a Snickers.

lol

Shampoo55
12-16-21, 18:59
Well we seem to disagree then.
Sometimes you gotta do whatchu gotta do Mane!
Obviously you've never had a girl in your car refusing to leave and trying to set you up, or extort you.


BTW I garauntee her hair gets pulled harder every night.



Also...why did you post this in this thread?
"Mighty Micks Boxing Club"?
Why am I only just now seeing this thread?I reported in a prior post a couple of ways I have successfully gotten girls out oft the car that were trying to extort me. Just because someone has never tried those or refuse to accept them doesn't mean they didn't happen or don't work.

Just because some numbnuts pulls a girl's hair while he is fucking her, doesn't justify pulling her hair when she doesn't want it! I mean seriously? I keep seeing justifications for bad behavior!

But attitudes like "you got to do what you got to do" are EXACTLY why I am posting in response. There is NO EXCUSE for laying hands on a girl, pulling her hair or whatever. NONE. Weak minds resort to violence. If a dude is willing to beat a SW they probably are beating their SO because "she deserves it" when she mouths off to him. Stopping violence against women requires a change of culture and thinking by MEN and it is clear that there is still work to be done.

That attitude is precisely the attitude too many men have and it needs to change!

Go ahead ad respond back, it is clear where you stand. With the violence against women crowd! Sigh,

RoboPimp
12-16-21, 19:05
I reported in a prior post a couple of ways I have successfully gotten girls out oft the car that were trying to extort me. Just because someone has never tried those or refuse to accept them doesn't mean they didn't happen or don't work.

Just because some numbnuts pulls a girl's hair while he is fucking her, doesn't justify pulling her hair when she doesn't want it! I mean seriously? I keep seeing justifications for bad behavior!

But attitudes like "you got to do what you got to do" are EXACTLY why I am posting in response. There is NO EXCUSE for laying hands on a girl, pulling her hair or whatever. NONE.
Hey some people would say there's no excuse for paying for Blowjobs and sex.

You can't Soapbox about Morals and Ethics if the box is on Quicksand.

Korman23
12-17-21, 10:24
Hey some people would say there's no excuse for paying for Blowjobs and sex.

You can't Soapbox about Morals and Ethics if the box is on Quicksand.There's a big difference between paying someone for consensual activity and ripping them out of a car by their hair. I'd say subtlety was lost on you but this is not a subtle difference. I agree with Shampoo.

Gator145
12-17-21, 14:52
I reported in a prior post a couple of ways I have successfully gotten girls out oft the car that were trying to extort me. Just because someone has never tried those or refuse to accept them doesn't mean they didn't happen or don't work.
Just because some numbnuts pulls a girl's hair while he is fucking her, doesn't justify pulling her hair when she doesn't want it! I mean seriously? I keep seeing justifications for bad behavior!
That attitude is precisely the attitude too many men have and it needs to change!I have been around the proverbial block a few times over the years.

We all know every venue is different. Every performer can play a different show. Different rates. Different activities. You can always count on a different finale at every show. You name it and it will have some difference compared to last show. Bank on that. Even with the same performer, there will always be change.

That is just how the game is played. How it ends each time is anybody's guess.

Every event has two common threads. The performer wants as much as the market will bear for doing as little as possible. The patron wants exactly the reverse. The most he can get for as little as she will accept.

Sometimes things go well. Other times between the time she goes on stage and the curtain call, things tend to go south without warning. We find ourselves with an unwanted guest in the car and she refuses to get out. Remember, what works for one will not necessarily work for another. Find what works for you and stick with it till it no longer works. Then perfect another diversion.

Over the years I have had numerous she devils that simply refuse to leave unless I meet their demands. Inevitably that demand is almost always cash. Quick, hard, cold, cash. I had one beast threaten to cut my seats. She had a box cutter in her hand. How can that be dealt with safely?

It doesn't usually need to come to physical violence. I do agree there are instances it seems nothing else will work. Is it acceptable? Maybe not to us as individuals, yet, to others it might be. I'm not going to try and be judgmental on a situation I wasn't a part of and not knowing all the particulars.

I will say this. It is to our advantage to find out what it will take to get her to leave. Then, if possible, give her what she wants. Or at least make her think she has what she wants. There is no doubt she feels she has us by the balls. She may very well have us in and uncomfortable situation.

Here's another point to consider. She is not the least bit concerned about spending the night behind bars as the rest of us might be. To her it goes with the territory. Therefore, we need to use our brain to avoid what she doesn't give a hoot about.

The dummy roll of bills has never failed me. Keep two or three fake twenty's in your shirt pocket. It looks like real money and that's what she wants. Then when she tries to pass it on the block let the dealer give her the ass-whipping you want her to have so badly. She will definitely get what she deserves. Just let her get a good look at it and toss it out her window just far enough that she needs to get away from the car to get it. Then pull off.

It's best to have a large area in front of the vehicle in case she leaves the door open thinking she's getting back in. Personally, I have perfected pulling away strong enough to close the door. One can practice that in an empty lot. I have used this technique more than a few times. A couple of squirts of WD 40 on the door hinge insures that it will close every time.

Shampoo made an excellent point about going out prepared. That is important. The realistic approach to entering any dangerous adventure is to be prepared. Knowing what action we will take to extract ourselves from it. Now, I don't mean be sure you have condoms. What I'm saying is to think about everything that can go wrong. People are getting shot out there for lord knows what reason. Any one of us that may feel we are not targets is a fool. Putting our hands on another person makes us perfect candidates to have a firearm pulled on us.

If we do that the mentality of the area says fifteen people come from nowhere to their rescue. No matter if its male or female. Or maybe we strike someone and injure them badly or worse and find ourselves in a jail cell. All for pussy? Really?

Our best offence will inevitably be a good defense. We need to be smarter, more alert to our surroundings. Every move we make needs to be made with our safety in mind. We need to be aware of the small things that can go wrong and become a big issue. Keep in mind the drugs blow things way out of proportion in their minds. We can keep those issues small by using our heads. Know what can go wrong and be prepared to have a possible safe solution. We don't need to be tough in this game. Need to be smart. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

RoboPimp
12-17-21, 18:30
The dummy roll of bills has never failed me. Keep two or three fake twenty's in your shirt pocket. It looks like real money and that's what she wants. Then when she tries to pass it on the block let the dealer give her the ass-whipping you want her to have so badly. She will definitely get what she deserves. Just let her get a good look at it and toss it out her window just far enough that she needs to get away from the car to get it. Then pull off.

It's best to have a large area in front of the vehicle in case she leaves the door open thinking she's getting back in. Personally, I have perfected pulling away strong enough to close the door. One can practice that in an empty lot. I have used this technique more than a few times. A couple of squirts of WD 40 on the door hinge insures that it will close every time.
.Idk where to even get fake $20's.

But what do you do when you don't actually have cash on you and she's demanding Money?

This is exactly what happened to me: I picked up the girl.

Super cute with a nice rack and great ass.

Solid 8/10.

Turns out she was Nuttier than squirell shit.

I only had like $20 on me, but since she looked so damn good I was going to take her to a room.

We agreed on Price and on the way there she kept insinuating I was a Cop and was I thinking of Beating her.

2 jokes I don't like but I let it slide because she had a huge rack and matching ass, and was ok with letting me Record.

But she kept saying it Over, and over and OVER.

By the 4th time I let her know outright, I don't like the joke of beating women.

She got weirdly quiet. 30 seconds of silence. Then it changed from a joke to accusations.
Then she says she has a gun in her purse. What?!
Then "Just kidding?!"
No B!tch.
So I U-Turn and head back. Date over. Stopped the car near her spot, and gave her the 20 for her time.

She refused to get out because she was promised another price for the room fun.

Since the original plan was to hit the ATM and get the room she says I should get the money and pay her.

So Shampoo, was I supposed to give in to her Extortion?

Farouk
12-17-21, 19:12
Idk where to even get fake $20's.
https://www.amazon.com/Money-Print-Dollar-Movies-Videos/dp/B08BYVQT9J/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=fake+money&qid=1639782545&sr=8-5.

Shampoo55
12-18-21, 00:40
Idk where to even get fake $20's.

But what do you do when you don't actually have cash on you and she's demanding Money?

This is exactly what happened to me: I picked up the girl.

Super cute with a nice rack and great ass.

Solid 8/10.

Turns out she was Nuttier than squirell shit.

I only had like $20 on me, but since she looked so damn good I was going to take her to a room.

We agreed on Price and on the way there she kept insinuating I was a Cop and was I thinking of Beating her.

2 jokes I don't like but I let it slide because she had a huge rack and matching ass, and was ok with letting me Record.

But she kept saying it Over, and over and OVER.

By the 4th time I let her know outright, I don't like the joke of beating women.

She got weirdly quiet. 30 seconds of silence. Then it changed from a joke to accusations.
Then she says she has a gun in her purse. What?!
Then "Just kidding?!"
No B!tch.
So I U-Turn and head back. Date over. Stopped the car near her spot, and gave her the 20 for her time.

She refused to get out because she was promised another price for the room fun.

Since the original plan was to hit the ATM and get the room she says I should get the money and pay her.

So Shampoo, was I supposed to give in to her Extortion?

Dude this is too easy! Just like Howerd Erskin says. You are a Dope! I say that in a playful way in hopes you will learn something. There are MANY mistakes in what you did, but you can learn to do better! We all make mistakes and learn. That is part of the point of these threads, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO LEARN!

So pull up a stump, sit here next to the bonfire and I'll share some experience. You can whittle if that helps one listen. Yeah, my style is a bit 'in your face,' but if you let style be a block, you'll never learn.

First, you spent many posts justifying beating a girl, pulling her by her hair or yanking her out of a car. ALL because you don't know any other answer BUT violence. Suggestions were made but you railed against them rather than learn from them. I mean I'm not interested in bashing, you rather wish to help / educate you, but you have to do your part. You have to be willing to look in the mirror and see if there is another way you could operate? If you aren't willing to learn / change your ways you will keep being a Dope!

If you can see no other way to handle things than what you did, Violence, you are a DOPE and unwilling to learn. Hey, I never get mad when someone calls me 'ignorant' as a lack of knowledge can be "cured" by education. So we have been trying to educate you, can you accept the suggestions?

Look Gator had some good suggestions earlier in a post somewhere (SW thread?) and he repeated his technique here. There is something you could learn, write it down! I hope you don't just want to be a Dope and keep justifying beating and putting your hands on a girl. That is just sad.


So Shampoo, was I supposed to give in to her Extortion?
Your real problems is that you are unprepared for mongering! You must be one of these dudes that thinks mongering is "easy" and you don't need to know anything to do it nor be prepared. The streets are teaching you lessons but you aren't learning from them! Like Gator just said you got to anticipate everything that could happen on the streets and have a plan in place. I am suggesting that such plans and back up plans DO NOT require violence of any kind!

I just read something about the Seals, they NEVER have a failure of mission because they think of anything and everything that could go "wrong" on a mission and then plan and train for each and everything that could happen. Something goes off plan, they switch to the back up plans and keep going. I see no reason that mongers can't or shouldn't do the same thing! Those mongers that have been around a long time have those plans in place because they have been taught the lessons by the streets. Nice thing is that there is free advice here on "how to" be prepared and what one can do in any mongering situation. So you can learn here! You just have to be willing to step up to the plate and learn!

But to answer your question. YES! Some times you take a TOTAL MONETARY LOSS if the situation requires it! It is FAR better to take the money loss than have violence visited back on you or property damage to your ride. Total Loss is always the extreme fall back, last resort scenario, but hopefully you learn other techniques that could go before it!

Anyone who has been in mongering a long time has taken a total loss and learned from it! It's a calculation of how to stay safe when all the plans crap the bed. It keeps you safe and out of jail cause you reject violence. You live to monger another day and then hopefully you reach out and ASK here so you can learn other techniques.

But when things go bad, or goodness forbid a total loss, then you go home and do an operation review. What did you do, what could you do differently, how can you change your approach, what plans do you need to make? That's what a reasonable person does, a dope just sticks with "I was justified putting my hands on the girl. " So you either have a "plan" for what to do if a girl extorts you or you lose all of your money. Then you start to admit the streets taught you a lesson and you strive to learn from it and get better! I mean anyone can do it, you just have to be willing to learn! If a dope like me can learn these techniques, I am sure anyone can!

But who goes out to pick up girls without the money to pay them? That is a sign of not being prepared! Oh yeah, I'm gunna stop at the ATM and get it on the way home. Yeah, right! Girls have heard that story many times and got stiffed! I'm surprised she didn't mace you when you suggested that. Any girl that agrees to such a scheme is a red flag in herself. Dudes stiff them all the time, so when a girl agrees to be stiffed, something is wrong and it's time to punt. I mean I have even suggested that (money later) when I thought a girl was a bit off and her response is used to determine if she's a drop off or not.

Everything you do as soon as the girl's butt hits your seat should be designed to figure out who she is, who she isn't, is she safe, is she sane, etc. All designed to keep you safe. If you aren't doing that and you are just thinking of pussy or that you are SO lucky to scoop an 8/10, you are missing an opportunity to be safe. Shoot fbtom use to ask them if they were born a male to weed out the trannies! You laugh, but he kicked a few out who answered wrong. I know you think you don't need to do this because you have some special powers and can tell before a girl gets in your car who is a wacko and who to avoid. I guess your magic decoder ring was in the shop for repairs as this incident where you ended up beating the girl did occur. Sigh. Looks to me like a place where you could learn and use a few techniques? Just saying.

I mean you say she was nuttier than a squirrel yet you continued with the date? Was the little head doing the thinking for you at that point? Were you so mesmerized by her big rack and matching ass that you let slide irritations that were re flags to a bad situation? You got to use your big head pretty much until she's naked and as soon as a girl demonstrates she's nuts, end things and get away. But no you bought yourself more trouble by continuing, you weren't prepared to ask the right questions, to find out if she's nuts, find out if her menu matches yours, etc. You don't appear prepared to bail when the red flags appeared, too mesmerized by boobies until the situation was too extreme. Another read flag is that you were thinking of beating her? Seriously? THAT thought should have been a clue to do whatever you needed to do to get away from her, violence not withstanding! It sure looks like the signs were there and you ignored them or didn't discover them fast enough? Perhaps some technique refinement is in order?

But if a girl accuses you of being a cop too many times, it is time to end the date, Cut your losses. I once had a girl pull some shit with me while we were driving and I told her look, you are making me nervous and pizzing me off. I can do one of two things, drive you to some remote far away area and dump you off or take you back to close to where I picked you up. I said it in a polite yet FIRM tone. Not wishy washy, not indecisive, not mamby pamby. Straight factual, unemotional point. She decided to take the ride home. {Thank goodness as I was bluffing!} How's that for another technique?

Gator gave you the fake money roll technique. You said you "gave" her the 20 $, did you toss it out of the car so she'd have to go get it? Perhaps there is another technique revision you could make? I have told you THREE FUCKING TIMES that driving to a public place with others around and asking the girl to get out of your car can work. But you don't like that technique or just plain reject it! Don't knock it until you tried it and gave it a good couple or three tries. So there you go, are you going to learn from these or argue with them?

Look these boards are a great place to learn "how to" monger! Lord knows over the years I have asked my share of questions and learned a ton! But you have to be willing to admit you are wrong, that the technique you used didn't work or that there are better ways to do things and THEN be willing to implement them. Sure your first attempt at a new technique might not go well, then practice it or ask how to refine it and learn, adjust and adapt. Or you can keep being a dope. It's your choice. What will you chose!?

Stay safe!

Gator145
12-18-21, 06:33
Dude this is too easy! Just like Howerd Erskin says. You are a Dope! I say that in a playful way in hopes you will learn something. There are MANY mistakes in what you did, but you can learn to do better! We all make mistakes and learn. That is part of the point of these threads, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO LEARN!

So pull up a stump, sit here next to the bonfire and I'll share some experience. You can whittle if that helps one listen. Yeah, my style is a bit 'in your face,' but if you let style be a block, you'll never learn.
Stay safe!This is a great link. Simply go on amazon and search Prop money. It's the same stuff used in the movies. On this link there are all denominations.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=prop+money+realistic&crid=3 GZ4 SRGB11 YMY&sprefix=Prop+money%2 Caps%2 C68&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_3_10.

If you decide to grab this decoy money, I'm sure you will be as amazed as I was at the quality.

Might be good to put a five, a ten, and a twenty in your shirt pocket for easy access. Then ask this question if she demands money. If I give you what I have will you get out of the car? Chances are she will respond yes.

Let her get a quick glimpse of it and you count it out loud. Five and ten is fifteen and twenty is thirty-five. Then roll it so it's all together. I crumple it into a ball. Then tell her ok, get out. She will most likely debate whether you will actually give it to her. Tell her no problem just lower her window and toss it out. Say that's all I got. At that point, she wakes up. She sees you remove it from your pocket. Watches you count it and roll it in a ball. Then she sees it tossed out the window before her eyes.

Now, you never told her it would be real money. The deal was "if you give her what you have".

She will be hard-pressed to argue any further. She knows she better get her ass in gear or somebody else is going to get what she thinks she's got. She knows addicts spend their entire day looking for lost bills on the ground. So she knows she's at risk of losing easy money.

Then sit back and laugh. If you really want her to learn a quick lesson toss three twenties. Like I said before, when she attempts to pass them on the block then she's got a lot of explaining to do.

This is most definitely an education for both the girl and the monger. Aside from her lesson, he learns he is not at her disposal. Because he used his common sense. He also learns she will have consequences for her actions. All he needs to do is watch and learn.

A strong word of warning. I don't see any legal problems unless a monger tries to pass the bills as payment. Then, I'm sure they would face a boatload of charges.

The bills are marked play money but if you use a little common sense you can figure ways to make the stamp unnoticeable. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

Gator145
12-19-21, 12:24
Every encounter ideally would come with a quick assessment of the girl. Is she clean? Is she lucid? Is she cooperative or combative? If she's falling out, that is nodding, then you may want to pass on her. Nodders and dozers can take hours to remove from the vehicle safely.

Does she have the hands of a chimp? Are there open wounds? If her hands are swollen there's a strong possibility of some type of infection.

Does her face look like an Iraqi mine field went off three times in a row from picking? If her face is picked to shreds you could have a crack addict or meth head. Both can make that day one of your worst.

Once in the car, does she appear to try and control the situation? She might readjust the vents or maybe change the radio station. She's doing those things to get a feel how far she can go with you. Is she aggressive? If she is, one might want to skip that one.

Is she bossy, demanding? If she appears to be like that then pass. I've said this a dozen times, once you transfer control of the meeting to her you are hers for the taking. And take you she will.

Does she come off as being "sick"? They all would have us believe they are sick and need supplies quick. That ensures her needs and leaves yours dangling. Perfect storm for cash and dash. She tell you she needs to get her stuff cause it makes her horny? Biggest lie known to mongers. Never believe that crazy shit. Is she focused on you or are her eyes wandering all over the car to see what she can grab without you noticing?

On rare occasion she might have a phone. Beware. Perfect tool to set you up. She can text information to an accomplice. Have her put the phone away till after the meeting.

Now after going over all this in our head, we decide this just isn't the kind of meeting we planned for today. How can we safely get rid of her? The perfect negotiator will tell her to go fuck herself and make her happy to be on her way. Not always an easy task.

We've been over the dummy bills so I won't get any deeper into that. I think some may find that technique useful. Others may feel it involved. Easy once perfected. Personal safety is never to involved. We are our own guardian angel.

There are other methods that can extract us from a bad situation that work well. For instance, I've told a girl I'm gay and thought she was trans. Out she goes. I am confident enough in my own sexuality I don't care what she thinks of me if the end result is the goal I seek.

Focus on her needs. She wants money. She thinks we have it. You can tell her you are meeting your buddy in an hour and he's bringing you some cash he owes you. So, you won't have any money till then. Ask if she can meet you then at let's say the Walgreens? Now you've established the fact you don't have what she wants. You are willing to date her on your terms. She may say she will meet you, but chances are she won't be there anyway. Their minds aren't geared for an hour from now. You are dealing with what I call short-term thinkers. Anything in the future confuses their immediate goals.

This is a surefire way to get a girl to leave once you determine she's not going to fit the bill. Tell her you enjoy anal with ATM while she's handcuffed. Offer her a ridiculous lowball rate. Explain you would offer more but it's two days before payday, so funds are low.

You can try to reverse roles. Place yourself in her position. You want her to leave. Offer her things you feel strong she would refuse. The best tool at our disposal is our imagination. Put it to work. Tell her your twist is something so repulsive Satan himself would back off. You can make up any excuse. You know it's a good one if it gets you out of the situation you are in. Don't be concerned what she thinks of you. It's doubtful there's any long-term relationship brewing.

Always keep your dummy bills where you can get them quickly. That's important if you decide to use them.

Keep your spending cash separate. Never comingle spending funds with those you choose not to spend. Hide what you don't want her to have. Never, never, never be flashy with your funds. I mean who's impressed, a hooker you can't take home? Not very impressive. She sees what you have, and she wants it all. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

Shampoo55
12-20-21, 00:05
Every encounter ideally would come with a quick assessment of the girl. Is she clean? Is she lucid? Is she cooperative or combative? If she's falling out, that is nodding, then you may want to pass on her. Nodders and dozers can take hours to remove from the vehicle safely.

Does she have the hands of a chimp? Are there open wounds? If her hands are swollen there's a strong possibility of some type of infection.

Does her face look like an Iraqi mine field went off three times in a row from picking? If her face is picked to shreds you could have a crack addict or meth head. Both can make that day one of your worst.

Once in the car, does she appear to try and control the situation? She might readjust the vents or maybe change the radio station. She's doing those things to get a feel how far she can go with you. Is she aggressive? If she is, one might want to skip that one.

Is she bossy, demanding? If she appears to be like that then pass. I've said this a dozen times, once you transfer control of the meeting to her you are hers for the taking. And take you she will.

Does she come off as being "sick"? They all would have us believe they are sick and need supplies quick. That ensures her needs and leaves yours dangling. Perfect storm for cash and dash. She tell you she needs to get her stuff cause it makes her horny? Biggest lie known to mongers. Never believe that crazy shit. Is she focused on you or are her eyes wandering all over the car to see what she can grab without you noticing?r.Wisdom any monger could benefit from! Thanks for sharing your vast experience!

There are other methods that can extract us from a bad situation that work well. For instance, I've told a girl I'm gay and thought she was trans. Out she goes. I am confident enough in my own sexuality I don't care what she thinks of me if the end result is the goal I seek.

You had me ROFLMAO with that one! 90% of guys couldn't say that, but I bet it's effective as heck!

Hope those that need the wisdom you provide partake!

Thanks again!

PinHead11
12-20-21, 20:23
Wisdom any monger could benefit from! Thanks for sharing your vast experience!

There are other methods that can extract us from a bad situation that work well. For instance, I've told a girl I'm gay and thought she was trans. Out she goes. I am confident enough in my own sexuality I don't care what she thinks of me if the end result is the goal I seek.

You had me ROFLMAO with that one! 90% of guys couldn't say that, but I bet it's effective as heck!

Hope those that need the wisdom you provide partake!

Thanks again!To all of you who take the time to write out a well written response to a question or situation another monger has, I appreciate you all.

Gator, I have been reading your posts for years. Bravo Sir.

PH.

RoboPimp
01-16-22, 10:49
Anyone notice girls are asking for more and more money now?

It is getting out of hand.

Streetwalkers and Escorts.

Even the Huge Whales are charging an Arm and a Leg.

Who are the men paying Hippos $300 for sex?

Can someone justify that? I'm confused.

I had a Tacony SW recently tell me not to contact her unless I had at least $200.

Mind you, I usually give her $40-$50 for a Beejay.

BeefNoodleSoup
01-17-22, 12:29
Anyone notice girls are asking for more and more money now?

It is getting out of hand.

Streetwalkers and Escorts.

Even the Huge Whales are charging an Arm and a Leg.

Who are the men paying Hippos $300 for sex?

Can someone justify that? I'm confused.

I had a Tacony SW recently tell me not to contact her unless I had at least $200.

Mind you, I usually give her $40-$50 for a Beejay.Most AMPs have been pretty consistent with prices. From my experience SW have either stayed the same or even decreased. At least this was my experience in Philly. Outside of Philly I'm seen a lot of formerly $200 girls asking for $300-$400.

Shampoo55
02-03-22, 22:57
That's my point, she could care less about her date.

This guy is willing to hold the cash for the nice girl, but the nice girl didn't give a shit about him by leaving her pipe in his car or the potential risk she put him in because of it.

Keep the money, throw the pipe away and move on, there are plenty of other nice girls out there. Lesson for the next time if he does pick a street walker up make sure she doesn't leave anything behind that can potentially get him in trouble. Search you car, if you find lottery tickets or money treat it as win, kind of like when you do laundry and you find money in your dryer.I find this reply to be callous, uncaring and unkind to those you are employing! Sad.

We build the kind of society we live in with each action we take, and how we treat those less fortunate than ourselves.

If you live by a "code" of 'fuck the next guy', you might just wake up one day and be the dude being bent over.

Show some compassion and decency fr these girls! It is the least you can do.

Shampoo55
02-15-22, 10:07
Just want to get rid of trash and it's not like she's a human with a soul or anything.Oh wow! You do need some therapy! This the second derogatory comment about girls in the hobby! Even IF this was an attempt at humour it is in poor taste!

These girls are often in unfortunate circumstances and kicking them while they are down is just sick. Does that make you feel better or feel more like a "man" because you can degrade and put down some girl? Seriously?

So you had a bad experience with a girl, we all have those from time to time. Get over it and quit being an overly sensitive little snowflake where you think that just because you didn't get your way you need to "cancel" the other person! Wow!

There is no reason to treat any girl in the hobby in any manor, fashion or way other than the respect you would want others to show your mother, sister or aunt. Anything less makes you part of the problem.

Sheesh!

RoboPimp
02-15-22, 21:07
Shampoo out chea saving these Hoes.

Sham I heard you was out here taking these Hoes on Dinner dates, and introducing them to family.

Shampoo55
02-15-22, 23:09
Shampoo out chea saving these Hoes.

Sham I heard you was out here taking these Hoes on Dinner dates, and introducing them to family.Jezz dude! Youse don't hafta take a girl out to diner or visit the family. JUST TREAT THEM WITH RESPECT!

Surely for an experience monger like you that isn't a tall order?

But IF you think it is cool or funny as to refer to these girls are "non-humans" or without a soul then youse need counseling too!

Just saying!

Stay safe and happy hunting!

PinHead11
02-16-22, 20:52
I am amazed at some of the responses about "the working girls ".

Does anyone here really think they are so much better than them? (the girls).

I assume most SW if not all have a habit and Most escorts on STG, list crawler etc. probably do also, but where does it give any of us the right to treat them as anything less then we would expect to be treated?

If a date goes down hill there are ways as others have described to end that date. Move on.

It is disgraceful the comments of " cyanide pill " or the " pull her by the hair " out of the car. Wow, disgusting are those statements.

They are human beings.

Do you also kick your dog?

PH.

AnonBuxz
02-17-22, 15:17
Not sure why why'all are bickering over the humanity or lack thereof of some members of this forum. To each their own and different strokes for different folks. Mind your own business when it comes to how people treat their "providers" in this day & age because we didn't come here to listen to "adults" complain about how other "adults" interact w/ the SWs or providers.

Shampoo55
02-17-22, 22:43
Not sure why why'all are bickering over the humanity or lack thereof of some members of this forum. To each their own and different strokes for different folks. Mind your own business when it comes to how people treat their "providers" in this day & age because we didn't come here to listen to "adults" complain about how other "adults" interact w/ the SWs or providers.You sir, with your "mind your own business" attitude are part of the PROBLEM!

I guess yer the guy who sees a girl being gang raped, "minds his own business" rather that calling 911, OR joins in, after all "she deserved it!

I don't care if you came here to listen to adults or not, you need to change your attitude and GROW UP! Treat these girls with respect! It is the least you can do!

Bad behavior is just plain bad behavior. No one should condone bad behavior! So I guess you are cool with calling AA's the and word or Hispanic s the S word. Sigh.

It is sad that you think you need to defend the Neanderthals, idiots and jerks that occasionally post here. Maybe you need some counseling!

MidnightRider7
02-18-22, 00:44
Are you serious? You should get off your soap box and look in the mirror — anytime you pay these girl's, especially the dope fiends, you are disrespecting them- you can tell yourself that you treat them right, you are a good guy, you respect them, they want the money, but give it a rest- you are the problem, respect is a 2 way street.


You sir, with your "mind your own business" attitude are part of the PROBLEM!

I guess yer the guy who sees a girl being gang raped, "minds his own business" rather that calling 911, OR joins in, after all "she deserved it!

I don't care if you came here to listen to adults or not, you need to change your attitude and GROW UP! Treat these girls with respect! It is the least you can do!

Bad behavior is just plain bad behavior. No one should condone bad behavior! So I guess you are cool with calling AA's the and word or Hispanic s the S word. Sigh.

It is sad that you think you need to defend the Neanderthals, idiots and jerks that occasionally post here. Maybe you need some counseling!

Shampoo55
02-18-22, 12:30
Are you serious? You should get off your soap box and look in the mirror anytime you pay these girl's, especially the dope fiends, you are disrespecting them- you can tell yourself that you treat them right, you are a good guy, you respect them, they want the money, but give it a rest- you are the problem, respect is a 2 way street.Oh jeez! A guy with 8 posts, who has been around a minute, is telling me what to do? Your post makes ZERO sense!

So if I am disrespecting them by paying them, I am NOT beating them, telling others they are not human (soulless) and the various other ways some dudes her talk about these women.

Apparently youse ain't smart enough to tell the difference. Your problem is obvious!

Anyone else want wet shoes?

MidnightRider7
02-18-22, 14:27
Try and justify your behavior to make yourself feel good, but if someone doesn't get out of your car when you ask them nicely with respect, then put them out, and yes paying someone that is desperate is disrespectful, go on with your shiny white night, suit and be captain save a ho, sorry my whole, life doesn't revolve around this website. I have a life.

A WG just gon' be a WG, WG.

And a **** just gon' be a ****, ****.

But now my money long, real, real, real long.

And I just couldn't give two fucks, two fucks.


Oh jeez! A guy with 8 posts, who has been around a minute, is telling me what to do? Your post makes ZERO sense!

So if I am disrespecting them by paying them, I am NOT beating them, telling others they are not human (soulless) and the various other ways some dudes her talk about these women.

Apparently youse ain't smart enough to tell the difference. Your problem is obvious!

Anyone else want wet shoes?

Pkgman
02-18-22, 16:57
Oh jeez! A guy with 8 posts, who has been around a minute, is telling me what to do? Your post makes ZERO sense!

So if I am disrespecting them by paying them, I am NOT beating them, telling others they are not human (soulless) and the various other ways some dudes her talk about these women.

Apparently youse ain't smart enough to tell the difference. Your problem is obvious!

Anyone else want wet shoes?You are one sick bastard, standing on you soap box telling the rest of the of us how we should conduct ourselves. Aren't you special. We are allowed to have different opinions.

Shampoo55
02-20-22, 17:34
You are one sick bastard, standing on you soap box telling the rest of the of us how we should conduct ourselves. Aren't you special. We are allowed to have different opinions.There is a difference between right and wrong! Sorry you fail to grasp that!

Having an opinion that it is OK to beat girls is just WRONG! And that makes you a jerk and a Neanderthal! But alas, you want to tell me what to do don't you (stfu)? Pot calling the kettle black!

We'll put you in the classification of those Neanderthals that thinks it is OK to disrespect the girls, beat on them and cheat them. Bet you feel like a "man" when you put down others and / or beat a girl up!

If anyone fails to stand up when something is going down that is wrong that makes them complicit. I'm saying what you propose is wrong. Seems like several other posters agree with this position and only a few, like you think it is OK to beat women.

Shampoo55
02-20-22, 17:39
Try and justify your behavior to make yourself feel good, but if someone doesn't get out of your car when you ask them nicely with respect, then put them out, and yes paying someone that is desperate is disrespectful, go on with your shiny white night, suit and be captain save a ho, sorry my whole, life doesn't revolve around this website. I have a life.

A WG just gon' be a WG, WG.

And a **** just gon' be a ****, ****.

But now my money long, real, real, real long.

And I just couldn't give two fucks, two fucks.IF you weren't so certain you we all that and a bag of chips, you could read the threads here and LEARN how to get a girl out of your car without having to put your hands on her. But hey, Some guys are just dopes and would rather use violence than their heads. Hey, that's fine. You live a violent life you'll end up with violence toward you!

Too bad you uneducatable! You could really learn techniques on "how to" operate.

So yeah, you have a life, but apparently a sad one. Can't or won't learn. Is disrespectful to others. Happy to stand in public and demonstrate they are a small minded jerk!

AnonBuxz
02-20-22, 18:19
You sir, with your "mind your own business" attitude are part of the PROBLEM!

I guess yer the guy who sees a girl being gang raped, "minds his own business" rather that calling 911, OR joins in, after all "she deserved it!

I don't care if you came here to listen to adults or not, you need to change your attitude and GROW UP! Treat these girls with respect! It is the least you can do!

Bad behavior is just plain bad behavior. No one should condone bad behavior! So I guess you are cool with calling AA's the and word or Hispanic s the S word. Sigh.

It is sad that you think you need to defend the Neanderthals, idiots and jerks that occasionally post here. Maybe you need some counseling!Assuming what I would do in any given situation, let alone an emergency situation described above, is a dangerous game to play with people you've never met before IRL. I suggest you keep your assumptions about unknown people to yourself because it only makes you look like a fool as a result of being so dastardly wrong. I hope you don't have the gall to say these types of assumptions to people IRL because we all know what would happen there.

Why should I need to change my attitude? Why am I the one that needs to grow up? Did I pick a side? Did I say I was defending anyone? Did anyone say that I disrespect any human being? The answer to all these stupid questions that you mentioned is no. I do believe my original statement was directed towards ALL of you bickering over something so trivial. Using common sense, one would say that the neutral party trying to end the fight between the two opposing parties would be the "grown up" one attending to the "children. " It seems common sense isn't so common anymore.