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poolman6969
04-12-02, 10:01
Hey everyone looks like the new forum is up and running..
Now are there any hot spots that I have been missing besides the North Ave routes??

Thanks

Poolman

New Forum looking good!

Hopefully the chat area will be availbal soon..

Clubking01
04-12-02, 11:33
To G.G. (reply to message from the old board):

You might want to try www.granniesescorts.com for a "seasoned" escort. I once visited Ginger for a 1/2 hr incall.

Although there may be hotter girls, she was a true GFE. It was a real good 1/2 hr that really lasted about 45 minutes.

Their fees are a bit high: $$$1/2, 1-hr incall, $$1/2 for the 1/2 hr. But the GFE was a real pleasure for once.

Ginger is about 5'-5", 140 lbs, 38D-29-36, 45 yrs old. Really nice boobs. There are quite a few others listed on the web-site, too.

Good Luck.

AmonRa
04-12-02, 12:56
Just a short note to let you all know that it seems that the SW's have come back to the Roosevelt and Cicero area. There was a very nice looking blonde girl in brown leather pants on the corner of Roosevelt and 2 blocks west of Kostner. I would have picked her up but I was late for a meeting and I didn't have time to hide my laptop and valuables. Time was 4:30pm and it sure was a bautiful day!

Big D
04-12-02, 14:06
Hey guys. Once again saw a single SW on Damen between Fullerton and Belmont two nights ago. Thin black girl.

It doesn't seem like this is a very active area, but if you are driving in that area anyway it might be worth taking Damen instead of another street.

Can anyone give any broad direction in terms of finding AMP in the city? Not too specific, since the city closes these places down pretty quickly, but something to go on? NW Indiana is just too far to go most of the time.

Moneyshot
04-12-02, 15:42
first post here, nothing happening untill 2:00am on north ave. last night i picked up a kinda cute blonde named victoria 20yrs old from NY , she gave me a bad cbj 50$ and stole my wallet , I didnt have my money in there, well not much any way. just wanted to get this out , be care full, happy hunting

Moneyshot
04-12-02, 15:58
I was at the amoco on north before i picked up vitoria, there was a hott blonde on a cell phone nicely dressed there. she came up to my car and said "what would you like" I ask her if she need a ride, she said " im working" I thought it might have been a sting she looked realy good, what do you guys think? my judgement was very bad last night, no sleep for 24 hours will do that, im just glad i didnt have any credit cards or anything valuable in my wallet, I seen her (victoria) but she was hiding from me, I wasnt realy mad , just wanted it back (my licence) i think its probably in the chicago river lol, She said she is out every night if anyone has any info it would be very appreciated

Skunkbrother
04-12-02, 16:50
Hey moneyshot: What you described sounded very suspicious. You were probably wise to not engage with her. Sounds like she was trying to bait you into saying something that could get your car swarmed with 5 0.
On another note I was out on Roosevelt this afternoon looking for Mary. Didn't see her but there was a very cute blonde in a groovy blue dress on the south side of the street around 59 ct. She gave me the wink and the nod so I circled around and ended up in a fucking 6 or 7 john parade of cars which I hate. So I decided to bail. I'll look for her again though.







Hey, the edit feature on here is pretty sweet!

sweder999
04-12-02, 21:39
I am thinking about taking a trip. What are some good cities in the US for SW action? I have searched a lot of the boards here and have found some good leads. Just wanted to know your ideas.


Thanks for any suggestions.

JohnSmi108
04-12-02, 22:32
To all the Charlie Browns out there, I saw the little red haired girl early this evening at around 6:15pm on North Ave and then on Wabansia, which to me indicated she was working...today. I havent been out scouting enough to know if she's out there regularly now. But she's a good recommendation. "Leah/Cori" is a short girl with very red long, wavy hair. She was wearing a grey sweater.

Stay safe

HappyGardener
04-13-02, 12:27
Hey Jackson, thanks for all the hard work. it looks good, although I lost my first attempt at a post when i was disconnected from my ISP. When i relogged in i lost everyhting. so this time i will do it in stages.

Catching up from the archives: To drai and jamesb,, I have info on three AMPs in the city and one Polish mp. I would rather back cannel this on e-mail. Mod: Can we still post e-mail address since our names don't link anymore?

Also, i travel a lot during the week, and don't always get to my e-amil right away, so be patient. By the way, iI was in Vegas last week, and the SW and bar action sucked. I was not about to drop $600 for a girl to come to my room

HappyGardener
04-13-02, 12:32
To Big D about the Damen girls: Action goes up and down in that area. Beware: Heavy LE and community action in the area if it starts to heat up. I drive home on Damen several times a week. The people who own those new and UGLY $300,000 condos don't want working girls on the street. Fuck them the girls were there first.
There used to one girl there who gave an awesome BJ for 15 or 20. Helped that she was toothless...LOL!
haven't seen her in a year. Also my other regular in that area got married and went into rehab about a year ago...I helped send her off on her last night on the street. Again, be careful, some of those girls put the high in high risk.

HappyGardener
04-13-02, 12:40
A couple of final thoughts...
Moneyshots problems on North Ave. I now lock all my valubles in the trunk. Wallet, cell phone, extra money, briefcase. Take the $20 or $30 to pay for the BJ (I don't ever want to read about anyone paying $50 for a BJ again) and put it up in the visor where she can see it. They always ask "is that for me?" I have had to buy back my wallet, (without the Visa card), my pager for $20.00, and one time my money was taken from my sock where I had stuck the extra...no I never felt her hand going in there. BTW, when I was busted, the cops loved the fact that everything was locked in the back. They laughed themselves silly. Said that all the regular johns did it. Then they let me go.

Enough of my ramblings

HappyGardener
04-13-02, 12:46
Sorry one last post before my wife gets back from the grocery store.
Check out the post in Nort western Indian, both in the archives and the new. Anyone go to Pete and Mabels? Indiana is sometimes worlds away, but this sounds like an interesting place that is probably a half hour from downtown...well without traffic on the Dan Ryan

Moneyshot
04-13-02, 15:36
Thanks for all the good Info, I have been to pete & mables and peking spa both in east chicago. both are a sure bet. mostly old black women at p&m some times there is a diamond in the rough. last time I was there I got fs from a cute 20yr old 40$(In the womens restroom). but i had to spent about an hour and a half in a bar that smells like bourbon street, also there are a few sw on broadway there.

Big D
04-13-02, 16:15
Happygardener:
Important info about the Damen corridor. As I have said previously, I won't pick SWs up, but I will throw what I see out for the group. I think that every SW, even the ones recommended here, are one opportunity from doing very bad things to their "dates," and the risks (LE, theft, set-ups) are just too high.

I am willing to do the rooting around myself, but general info on Chicago AMPs (good ones, if you know what I'm saying) would be very helpful. Even just a neighborhood or a street (without the cross street) is fine.

Thanks and good hunting.

BIG D

P.S. North Ave was hopping from Clybourn to Damen last night. Lots of black girls, a few latin girls, and one black girl with the best body I have ever seen. Lots of LE too.

BigTimeLoser
04-13-02, 20:23
Hey All,

What's new? Met a girl named Liz at Hermitage and North. Hispanic, tall/slender, curly black hair w/ bandana. $30 for BJ, it was covered at my request. She was pretty good and really cool. One more thing--as we all know, paying $20 for a BJ is great and all, and during the winter that is a given w/ just about all sw's because they can't stand freezing on the street. But you have to be really naive to think that "we" can force the girls to drop their prices during the summer. Get real. Face facts---there are usually 5 or 6 cars trying to scramble to every girl out there---probably more. We have no power over the situation. Sure, you can not pay and drop her off, which is cool--I do it quite often. But now you have to drive around and find a new girl. Again, aside from the rare night, all you have to do is read the posts and see how many times someone writes "It was dead tonight." It is all supply and demand. And during the summer when more and more guys will be out, don't delude yourself into thinking that when you drop off a girl (because you won't pay more than $20) that she has lost her big break, or won't get her money for crack, or whatever. She will be in another car in less than 2 minutes and will get what she is looking for. And who are the slaves to their addictions---them or us? Would you pay $50 for jenna jameson to give you a BBBJ? I bet all of us in here would pay $150 for that. Again, I am not bashing the $20 BBBJ--I always start w/ a $20---but be prepared to pay a little more during the summer.
Ok--more info, Victoria is a waste--she isn't good looking and she tried to charge me $50. I dropped her off so fu**ing fast. I wish our newbie would have armed himself w/ some info before his adventure. I also warned about possible sores in her mouth too.
If you even think about picking her up, examine her tongue/mouth.
Also---a big warning---there is a TV on the streets. He walks north from hermitage to western. Tall, not woman like at all. And he really pissed me off because he was hanging w/ this hot young blonde and every time I pulled up, the TV would walk towards my car. If he ain't a TV, then that is one fu**ing ugly woman.
Question--does anyone have any experiences in wicker park area? South of North along Damen or Milwaukee? I know a lot of young homeless/clueless/bored girls hang around that area.
Later,

BigTimeLoser
04-14-02, 14:24
Hey Everybody,

I was out last night and picked up Kelly. She is 40, but really looks in her early to mid-thirties. I found her at north and hermitage around 3:30am Sunday morning. If any of you were cruising last night, you may know who i am talking about. she wore a black skirt, and high black boots. She has blue eyes and long, brown straight hair. I thought she was going clubbing until we held eye contact for a while. she is extremely fit-firm legs and ass. She said she charge $75 for cbj and 150 for FS. i told her that i would never pay that much for street action, so we settled on 50/100. She gave an incredible cbj, not like some of those 19-year old teeth jockeys that others prefer to do business with. i ended up going for the FS and it was a blast--she is very tight and she was not a rush artist. Yeah, I know, some of you purists may not pay $50 for a bj, but while you might be getting a $20 BJ from a crack-decayed toothless wonder who looks like she got slammed against a brick wall, I am relaxing in my car with a patient, beautiful woman who never asked "are you gonna cum?" or "can i smoke in here?" or "can you wait right here while i go by a rock?"
anyways...i have contact info for the regulars.
Enjoy,

Brewster
04-14-02, 14:39
Hey Big time,

We travel in the same circles. I saw the TV and when he came over to the car, I waved by BB bat at him and he ran away real fast. That blonde gets picked up real fast. I didn't get a shot at her yet. I had Kelly for a nice 1 hour hotel stay. I payed $120. Brought her down from her $150 price. You are right. We need to bring um down.

Moneyshot
04-14-02, 17:41
I might not be out for a wile been in low spirits after getting robbed by a real expensive,rushed, teeth dragger (Victoria-buyer beware)I also will be using two wallets now, one will be locked up. Also does anyone know of a good motel/hotel near north ave. reasonable rates? Be Safe and Care Full out there, and happy hunting. Thanks for all the good info again.

HappyGardener
04-15-02, 09:28
Bigtime Loser:

Purist for not paying more than $20? I don't know whether to laugh or be insulted. Hell, I'm no purist; I'm just cheap! That's why I don't hang at Big doggie.net anymore. $300/hour for sex is out of my league. I can justify the $100 to $150 that you spend. Infact, after your enthusiastic post, I do want her info. I am pretty sure she is the girl I wrote about a couple of weeks ago in the old dorum. I drove past her a couple of times thinking she was a girl waiting for a taxi to go out. email me at threeinches86@hotmail.com

Seriously though. The $50 BJ in the car and the $20 lap dance is what drove me to the AMPs. for $50 to $70 I can get a decent shower and massage and for $20 to $ 40 more I can get a handjob or a french lesson. 45 minutes to an hour. I can count one hand the times I have been rushed in the AMP i go to.

Did you do FS in the car? My problem is I have a truck with two bucket seats. It is painful for all involved to do FS in my truck. And I really hate taken the wifes minivan out to pick up SWs. i have sometimes asked them if they have a place, but there is a lot of danger/excitement in that. A couple of times I have paid a friend of theirs $10 to use a bedroom. Just my 2 cents

HappyGardener
04-15-02, 09:46
Bigtime Loser

Just wwent back and read your other post about Liz. What time was this? How was she? Any contact info? I haven't seen many Latin women lately.
I am looking for that elusive regular date if i can ever find one.

Also in regards to the TVs. When I used to cruise the Broadway/Sheridan area, they were very prevelant up there. They always have better looking legs than the street girls. IF you want some fun one night, go to El Gato de Negro on Irving Park. It is a Latin TV/TS bar. Lots of silicon, liposuction, and other plastic surgerys. Man. after a couple of beers in low light you would swear that some of them were women. Never been THAT drunk yet. If you don't want work up the nerve to go in, just cruise Irving Park at closing time, as they spill out to pick up dates for the night.

Speaking of Latins, Is ther a "Zona Rosa" in Chicago? Where do the Mexican men go to get some? Are there areas in Pilsen or Little Village?

Clubking01
04-15-02, 11:28
Hi Guys…

Although more familiar with the Cicero Ave. action, I made my first swing through Chester’s North Ave. area last Friday night. I stayed along North from the Home depot west to Damen, then down the side streets from Damen to Ashland , between Waubansia and North. I didn’t stop, but saw plenty of activity.

There were two black girls working the southwest corner from Home Depot and a short white girl, wearing a flowered skirt on Ada and North. She disappeared fast, by the time I got around the corner, she was gone and I never saw her again.

As I continued west on North, I saw two black girls walking westbound near the expressway underpass, and another, wearing knee-high white boots, talking to LE in a cruiser van on the side street just east of the expressway.

Interestingly, on one of my passes eastbound on North, I saw a short, white girl with red hair, wearing a white fur jacket wuth black stripes, going in the opposite direction, she stopped in the Blockbuster video lot and talked with a guy sitting in his car. When I swung around and went back westbound on North, he was gone, but she was walking west towards Ashland. One my next pass, she was gone and I never saw her again either.

Continuing west on North to Damen, I then made several swings through the side streets between North and Wabansia, heading back east. I saw 4-5 black SW’s loitering on those side streets near North, but out of the limelight. Lots of traffic.

It was a decent night weatherwise, and a good one to get a decent “lay of the land”. Nerst time, I’ll go further west towards Western Ave. I hope this provides some insight.

Devlin
04-15-02, 11:49
Hey dudes, i for one will not pay $50 for a bj and $120 or more for full service. the nice weather does bring out other horndogs but LE stings and patrols increase as well. just my .02 cents. play safe, happy hunting

JohnSmi108
04-15-02, 15:03
For clarification purposes, there seems to be 3 Victoria's working the North/Wabansia area.

Chester's Victoria(Secret) who is blonde?, "young, 20 year old girl with HUGE tits. She's a little chunky, but I think she's very attractive. (5'3 maybe 135 or 140 at most)"

BigTimeLoser's Victoria who is "short, dark hair, hispanic... did not readily open her mouth for me(she did it so quickly, like she was hiding something),--her lips were kinda worn looking and she looked like an addict...be careful w/ her"

And moneyshot's Victoria who is "kinda cute blonde, 20yrs old from NY , she gave me a bad cbj 50$ and stole my wallet"

Not really knowing the girl's name until she gets in the car and having sped away from LE detection and to talk business, let's say one picks up moneyshot's Victoria, who's a thief or any other girls who's been warned about here.

Can someone give some advice on how to get rid of the girl from your car without pissing off the girl and causing a scene and without having to pay her to get outta the car...or is that pretty much a given???

Skunkbrother
04-15-02, 16:56
John: I'd say the best thing to do would be to throw her a 10 spot for her trouble and just say that you thought she was someone else.

Bozack
04-15-02, 17:45
long time lurker-first time poster. Don't have much info on the SW scene (chicken-so far) but appreciate all the posts

WARNING- the Damen ave (belmont-fullerton) area is teaming with UC LE. I live in the area, and have seen cops EVERYWHERE. Good Luck.

Skunkbrother
04-19-02, 15:58
Glad to see the site back up.

I saw Mary out today around the area of her old spot.
I also saw a skank 1 block west of her on Roosevelt. She didn't look very appetizing.

Devlin
04-19-02, 16:36
Hey dudes, I too am glad the site is back up. Jackson, THANK YOU for all that you do! btw, on 47th street near California avenue there is a gal named chris who is about 5'8" long brown hair and heavy set. she is a looney skank who speaks lousy french. don't waste your time or money. fyi, during rush hours traffic on Cicero avenue near Midway still sucks.

BigTimeLoser
04-20-02, 00:55
Hey All,

Had Maria last night. Got her around North and Western around 12:30am. 20+20tip for BBBJ. I needed the cheapie after splurging on the last two!!! I sa the funniest thing..and I know someone else here must have seen it too. Around 11:30pm, thr, at wabansia and hermitage, a totally hot brunette--i mean stripper/porn quality--not a sw--was standing at a corner for maybe 25 minutes..walking around like she was lost. she had some carry-on suitcase thing that she was dragging around. what was so funny is that the second she started walking, there must have been 15-20 cars doing laps around her hoping for her to hop in! I guess I am laughing at myselg, cuz i was one of them...
i'm not sure where the victoria i met is from--she said she was in her 30's...i think.
will send out requested info to all later tomorrow...too tired now.
enjoy!

Drai
04-20-02, 09:27
I made a mistake in that last post. The place that sucked was Island Health Spa on Army Trail not Oasis Spa. Oasis is actually an ok place. Sorry for the confusion.....

drai

Craven Morehead
04-20-02, 21:44
2 tips for getting undesirable SWs out of your car:

1. Yell & scream like crazy. This scares them & they go. Foaming & spitting as you do this adds to the effect.

2. Pull a knife. Keeping a box-cutter in the side door pocket of your car, along with the local maps, is always a good idea...just in case some teeth get stuck into a part of your body or (heaven forbid) a female suddenly turns into a male & this causes some complications.

Moneyshot
04-20-02, 22:42
Hey chester I would like victoria's # steve_28_us@yahoo.com, Thank You. I would pay a girl 10$ if she was very ugly to get out of my car( and I have )
. but I have also paid for sex with women that I would never take home from a bar for free. and I bet some of you have done this? I never carry any weapons with me, its could be used against you very easily. the sw in Chicago are very street wise. just read some of chesters reports. there very good.

Skunkbrother
04-21-02, 00:28
The talk about weapons reminded me of something; A friend of mine is a paramedic in Cleveland Ohio and he told me that there is a weapon on the street that is commonly known as a "ho stick". Basically it is a makeshift shiv that the girl will have hidden away and then pull it out on the john, take all of his money and stab him real quickly and bolt. He told me he's treated many a poor fellow who has fallen victim to this.

JohnSmi108
04-21-02, 04:15
A few years ago, I get a call at around 1:30am from a buddy of mine and a fellow hobbiest at the time to pick him up and drive him home to get his spare car keys. He had picked up a girl on Armitage, parked behind a garage, and did the deed. Afterwards, the girl wanted an extra $20 tip, which he refused give out. So the girl ended up taking his car keys -along with his house keys- from the ignition and bolts out.

So he calls me and tells me what happened. After I gain my composure, I picked him up and quickly drive him home near Edgewater. He wakes up his girlfriend and explains to her that he lost his keys somewhere at a pool bar. Then I quickly drive him back to his car. All that time, he was sweating bullets because he was worried that the girl went back to his car and trashed it or something. We were smart enough to take out the car battery and take it with us.

That was SO hiliarious. I still joke with him about it and he still owes me one.

stay safe..and hey!! hey!!! let's be careful out there.

George
04-21-02, 15:43
John,

Same sort of thing happened to me. She wanted extra money and I happen to see LE nearby, so I said get out now or I am gonna pull up to them and make a scene. She was gone is less than 10 seconds. Better to deal with the LE than getting stabbed.

mikie
04-21-02, 16:18
I had to physically remove some of these girls. They just would not leave the car. I did not strike them i just grabbed them a threw them out.

DaYat
04-22-02, 02:10
I had one that wouldn't leave, I even gave her 5 bucks. I finally just pulled over, got out, went over to her door, opened it, and physically pulled her out of the car.

LE was making the rounds, and she screamed for them. I casually got back in the car and drove off. Boom, I see blues. They run my license, asked what I was doing. I told them that I was trying to buy some pot, and she told me she had some, then she didn't and wouldn't get out of the car. They asked if they could search the car, and would they find anything. I told them, go ahead, you have my permission, and you won't find jack.

They told me to drive home, now.

I did. I'm a lot more careful nowadays.

Clubking01
04-22-02, 09:14
Hi everyone. I’m glad we’re up and running again. In the interim, I thought I’d jot down a few notes regarding escorts and a review of two I saw recently via eros-chicago.com…..one was good, with reservations, the other was bad.

Monica. A cute African American , 5’-6”, 120 lbs, 34C-26-38. The Eros photos make Monica look a bit more glamorous than in real life. She’s still cute, and has a great personality, as well as being sexually talented. I would see her again.

I called for the half-hour, which turned out to be an outcall to my house for $ 175. She arrived on time, dressed in a sexy wrap-around top and flowered stretch pants. NOTE: Monica does have stretch marks (she’s had two kids), and I would describe her tits as a little bit on the droopy side. I suppose another side effect of having the kids. Those are the negatives.

The positives are that Monica is intelligent, fun, enthusiastic, has a nice ass and legs and is very talented sexually. She gives a great CBJ, then we went onto missionary, doggie, then her climbing on top of me for a ride. We finished with my standard, an HJ, coming all over her. She has a great attitude and the half-hour session was perfect. I would recommend this over the hour session because I’ve read reports that those sessions can be a bit rushed. The fact that she came out for the outcall on short notice was a plus, though. She’s definitely worth a half-hour session if the negatives don’t bother you. They didn’t bother me. She does both in-call and outcall.


Lenzie. I asked for a half-hour escort, but got only a lame half-hour massage. Although she has a nice personality, she was a big disappointment.

I arranged to have a half hour outcall session for $200. She also charges the same for a full hour massage. She showed up on time, and she can thank her eros pics for making her look a bit better than she does in person. She’s not bad to look at, but her teeth are not that attractive (crooked), and you do not see this in the pics. Otherwise, they appear pretty accurate. She arrived in jeans and changed into a set of red underwear (bra and panties).

Lenzie was pleasant, about 24 yrs old, 5’-6”, 130 lbs., 34C-24-34,. We chatted amicably but she gave me a rather average back massage. When I flipped over, she worked the front, but never touched my cock. A little later, still with panties on, sat on my cock, and rubbed back and forth for a while. By this time, I had a nice hard on, and then she flipped over. I had to remove her bra, she made no attempt to do so. She then proceeded to rub her tits all over my cock. All of the rubbing took its toll as I was about to cum. I told her so and asked her to finish me off with an HJ (already realizing that this was all that I was going to get). She then told me “Oh, I can’t”…, like it was against the rules or something. So I had to finish myself off, but I made sure I got it all over her tits. That felt good, but not what I was paying for.

I didn’t ask if there were additional add on-costs for extras (didn’t think it was necessary we I asked for the half-hour “escort”), but I also didn’t make a big deal on how it finished. I’ve been through this before and its just not worth the effort to raise a big stink. Just chalked it up to taking one for the team.

This also reinforced a conclusion that I have come to realize about many of the providers that advertise on eros-chicago, both through real-life encounters and through internet reviews of others. (This is not an indictment of all of them by any means):

***Many of these so-called “independents” are actually agencies.
***Many of these girls do advertise an “escort” (meaning to me, FS) for a fee, but then add-on for extras.
***Many of these agencies “bait” and “switch”, by advertising a picture of a particularly good-looking escort, then send another, either thinking you are too stupid to know the difference, or just don’t care.

If you do find a reliable independent, hold onto her. They are generally cheaper than the agencies and easier to develop a “relationship” with (a relationship being defined here as being a regular and getting preferential treatment as far as booking appointments, discount rates, and better service.) I’ve established a few of these over the years, but like this industry as a whole, these providers come and go, and it is very easy to lose touch with them.

The point of this epistle is that YMMV when it comes to picking out an escort over the internet (like eros-chicago). Read reviews, ask questions, look for help from a site like this.

HappyGardener
04-22-02, 09:17
Hello Boys
Just back from a tour of the Fox Cities in Wisconsin. Thats Osh Kosh, Appleton.Eau Claire... If you need company there is a newspaper called the Entertainer. Mostly a bar rag with ads for bands and bars. The last four pages have strip clubs and escorts. I made a few calls, but didn't partake for a variety of reasons. A couple of good strip clubsin the area, but all $20.00 air dances.

Anyway, re your posts about crazy SWs. A couple of weeks ago I did a post about ripoffs but then deleted it because I thought it was racist. Every problem I have had has been with a black SW. I am not now or have ever been a racist. I have had great times with black girls I have met on line or thru personals, but black SWs have ripped me off. So I don't go there no more.
Still waiting for that email Big Time Loser.
Am thinking about an AMP visit today or tomorrow. Will report afterwards.

HappyGardener
04-22-02, 09:27
Just reread Chesters posts.
Pay attention to this man!!!
Always lock your wallet, laptop, briefcase,extra keys . etc in the trunk.
It would be nice to carry an extra ignition key in case she does the grab and run. My ignition key always rides solo. Half the time I miss girls because I wasn't planning on picking anyone up and I stop to take precautions. Bt the time i get around, she is gone. Oh well, that is how I save money anyway.

Still looking for a nice looking Latina that i can see on a regualr basis.

Devlin
04-22-02, 11:19
Hey dudes, when and if u first see a gal and speak to her b4 she gets into your car and are leery , don't let the little head get you into a avoidable situtation. drive away and play another time. if u do pick up a gal and then change your mind about her, STAY STRONG! raise your voice and tell her to get the hell out of your car or you will create a scene. they (sw) don't want LE problems. who are the cops going to believe? u (a tax payer) or some sw who probably has been arrested numerous times. if u offer this broad some cash, she will try to get more from you. For all newcomers into this hobby, please read chesters SUPER advice which can be found in the Great Reports (chicago/nyc) section. play safe, happy hunting

Moneyshot
04-22-02, 14:34
Yes I want to go down to the parties for the derby, my friends tell me its a great time down there, having been to mardi gras the last three years and always having good luck down there (Mostly for Free) :) I want to make sure it will be worth the time drive to louisville. I live in NW IN now so its something new for me. Good Luck out there!

slyguy
04-22-02, 16:55
First off Chester, I apologize for not emailing you Leah/Kori's phone # it seems that after having found it I left it out and my girlfriend apparently threw it away or something (probably jealous that there are girls #'s sitting around the house...if she only knew!!!)
Anyway did anyone see the little asain girl on wabansia this Saturday!!! I grabbed her for $60 for french lesson ended up giving her $110 for 1/2 and 1/2. UNBELIEVABLE!!! This girl loved it more than any girl i've ever picked up, a total screamer. She avoided telling me her name responding only that she's my asian fantasy girl.....fine by me i guess. I didn't press the issue. I get the feeling though that she's never really done anything like this before ( she seemed really nervous where most girls are very relaxed by my very calm, polite attitude. not to mention that I've never seen her out before...lord knows i've spent plenty of time driving around in that circle admiring the view). She's about 5' maybe 95 lbs. If you see her don't pass up the opprotunity. Its more than I like to spend but well worth it.

Skunkbrother
04-22-02, 19:31
Just wondering if anyone happened to catch HBO America
Undercover last night? It was a very good expose on the SW scene in Hunts Point. The great thing was that they showed the girls picking the guys up and then they somehow set up a mic on them as they turned the trick in the car.

TheDude
04-22-02, 20:31
Chester,

I have been reading your forum and contributions from others for quite some time. It came in real handy while I was in CA. Thanks for the great work you have done and keep it up!

I have some old information on Dawn... thought you might be interested. What is your email? I thought I have seen it in your old forum but too lazy to browze.

Also, you mentioned previously that you have the phone numbers of all the girls from Chicagoplaygirls.com. I am interested in "Perfection" and have her old cell number which no longer works. Last time I saw her was when she was on her way to her place a few months back. I don't want to call the agency direct and pay their rate since I know her already.

Thanks!

slyguy
04-22-02, 21:39
surprise surprise i was on my way home from work and i found a little piece of paper sitting in my center console with a name and # on it. I assume this is my asian fantasy girl since she's the only girl that i spent time with this weekend. Her name is Mari. Post a link to your email if you'd like me to share the #. And keep your eyes open for her. I was so worried that I wouldn't be able to experience her again, what a wonderful surprise that she just left the # there and I didn't even see it. I guess she's a slygirl.

BigTimeLoser
04-22-02, 22:43
Hey all,

I have an uptown update for all. I was there last week when the weather was nice, between 12:00am and 2:00am wednesday. There was one old, sorry-looking sw desparately gazing at every car. She was on Broadway, north of Wilson. There were also at least 4 black sws between Clark and Broadway on the sidestreets along Wilson. There used to be a lot of young, cute white girsl that worked this area...I hope the scene returns.
Also, a special request--if anyone has dated a girl named Maggie in the past 2 months, please post. She is tall--about 5'11-6'0, good body, small chest, long, wavy brunette hair. She always seemed to have a small scratch on her nose. She is 24. Usually wears jeans and a blue shirt/blue jacket. If you "met" her, you would know her by her awesome french skills (i have met none better) and 2 very unusual scars on her neck. They are small--you may not have noticed. She works the north ave area, between Western and Damen. She used to work nights...now I hear she works days. If you do see her, she is extremely high risk-a known heroin shooter. Be very safe with her and have fun!
Hmmm....I will post a reward for her too...anyone who can provide me w/ accurate/verifiable contact info or get her to meet me at a certain spot will get $25 toward their next hobby purchase :)

SAVAGEtraveler
04-23-02, 01:22
SUP HOBBYIST

I CHECKED OUT NORTH AV SUNDAY NIGHT FROM HALSTED TO ASHLAND. NOTHING BUT AN UGLY BLACK AND FAT MEXICAN CHICK.
I WAS THERE LAST WEEK ALSO AND SAW ABOUT 6 NICEEEEEE LOOKING LIGHT SKIN BOOTYFULLL BLACK CHICKS. I WAS AMAZED AT THE HIGH QUALITY BLACK CHICKS OF THE AREA.OFCOURSE THEY WERE NOT THERE WHEN I NEEDED THEM :). MY LUCK
I HEAR ALOT OF HOBBYSIST COMPLAIN ABOUT THE BLACK CHICKS
IN MY OPINION THEY ARE THE FINEST AND HAVE THE MOST ASSSS.
ITS NOT A COLOR THING,ITS AND ECONOMIC THING WHEN IT COMES TO BEING JACKED AND ITS TRUE THE BLACK FEMALES ARE MORE LIKELY TO COME FROM A POOR BACKGROUND BUT I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THEM. I DO KNOW THAT WHITE MALES ARE MORE LIKELY TO KIDNAP AND RAPE SW'S BASED ON STATISTICS SO THEY PROBABLY HAVE SIMILAR STEREOTYPES
ABOUT WHITE MALES. SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT
ANYONE KNOW WHERE THE LATINA SW'S HANG OUT?

Drai
04-23-02, 08:41
I finally got the chance to make it up to Rockford. I checked out Exclusive and Kelly's. Nothing to report that anyone has not alrady heard I believe. These people are about business. Not much manipulation involved. You pick a girl....go back to the room...negotiate the price and then proceed. Most of the girls were on the other side of large but there were 1 out of 5 shapely ones at each place. Got half and half at both for 120. Maybe I paid too much. We'll see next time.


drai

Clubking01
04-23-02, 09:54
I made a quick trip thru Devlin’s territory around 5 p.m. yesterday. I saw one black SW wearing red pants walking southbound by 48th st. Then, saw a cute brunette white girl, about 5’-8” and slim, with dress jeans, in a short brown jacket with a back-pack type purse. She was standing on the corner of 50th and Cicero and smiling and talking with a trucker who was going southbound on Cicero. On my second pass, the trucker had pulled into the Walgreen’s lot, and had parked next to the fence. The girl was talking with him.

Interestingly enough, I made another pass and I saw the girl getting out of the cab in the Walgreen’s lot, it couldn’t have been more than a couple minutes later, so either he was the fastest French student on record or they couldn’t work out the financial details.

Anyway, on my final pass, the truck was pulling out on 50th and turning right to go south on Cicero, and my girl was back on the corner. Devlin may know who this was.

If I wasn’t already late, I might have stopped, although she may have been pricing herself out of the market.

Devlin
04-23-02, 10:26
Clubking01, She is new to the area. i have seen her but have yet to meet her. She maybe too pricey because the last time i saw her she was spending alot of time talking to potential customers. Again, use caution because LE does cruise and park on the side streets. play safe, happy hunting

HappyGardener
04-23-02, 11:40
Hey Everybody,

Slyguy: I am sure you will be swamped with people asking for Maris' number.
please pass it along to threeinches86@hotmail.com. I have to work late tonight so I think I will pass thru North Ave. on the way home to see what action there is.

I decided against the Asian MP yesterday after reading some very negative reviews of my two local area AMPs on TBD. Sorry I don't have the link, but they are Jimmy wu's review on the public postings of TBD from last week sometime. Decided to hang with you guys and try the street scene again!
But since I still have that Latina or Asian fantasy thing going, I still would love to get Mari number. seems like a lot of us are looking for that good looking Latina girl. Does she exist?

HappyGardener
04-23-02, 11:49
Drai:
Thanks for the Rockford info. Since I am a city boy, I only go there when i am out that way. 90 miles is too far to drive for a chancy piece of ass. used to always stop there on the way too and from Platteville. But now the Bears are down by Kanakee....I hear there is a good bar down there for fashion shows. Nothing will ever come close to the old days at Lucianos in Berwyn.

$120 is around what I used to pay. I can't believe those place have been in business as long as they have. I went to one (probably exclusive) back in 1984. BTW, did you get my e-mail?

Big Time Loser:

The uptown scene used to be really hopping. Starbucks and too many $250,000 condos in what used to be slums kind of drove the girls out. I still pss thru that area on the way home sometimes and scan those side streets.
Like Wabansia is to North Ave. Leland is to Wilson Ave. You might find more girls off the main drag. That is the area where I had to buy my pager back from a girl one night. Thanks for the e-mail info on kelly.

JohnSmi108
04-23-02, 23:09
I saw several girls working this afternoon at around 12pm on North west of Western. There were two blondes. One of them was hispanic. She was around 5'6"-5'7", looked to be in her late 20's, nice, proportional body. But her face looked weathered and wore alot of red lipstick. She was wearing a black jacket and red top. She almost didnt look like a SW. She walked on North between Campbell and Washtenaw.

The other blonde was a white girl. She was around 5'4"-5'5", looked to be in her early 20's, nice, proportional body, and had her hair bundled up. She had a decent looking face. Not cute, not ugly, but looked tough like a gang member, especially when I saw her smoking. She was wearing a baby blue jacket and just hung around the corner of Campbell & North, at the end of the Walgreens parking lot. There was also a young, decent, normal looking black girl working that corner. I also saw a few hispanic girls walking on North, between Western & California. But they either looked strung out or kind of dirty looking.

Later on at around 6:30pm, I saw the blonde, hispanic girl I mentioned earlier with another hispanic girl with long, full, wavy hair. That girl was wearing a white top and tight, white jeans. I couldnt get a good look at her. On my second pass around, they had crossed the street to the corner of Campbell & North and were getting into a car with a couple guys. I can say that that girl had a nice looking, full ass.

I didint see anything on Armitage or the North/Wabansia area this afternoon or early evening.

HappyGardener
04-24-02, 09:36
Good Morning.

Well, I had to work overnight last night, so I decided to hit North Ave this am. I started around Home Depot at 4:45am; couple of Black SWs hiding out of the wind on Throop 4-5'sfor looks. Nothing on North to Damen, Nothing on Wabansia. I was starting to think the girls werelike overnight road work on the Kennedy: All Picked up for the morning rush. i had already decided that I was either going to spend $20.oo for a BJ, or a $100 for one of the girls that Big Time Loser keeps talking about.

When I was at the light at North & Western, a couple of black Sws in a car pulled up next to me and asked me if I was dating. They both looked pretty tired, although one of them was a 6.5. First time that has happenedto me on North Ave. declined offer.

Saw the blond Hispanic out working by Walgreens. Looped around a couple of times to check her out. 3rd time by she was getting in a cab. Nothing all the way back to Ashland. Decided to try Armitage. More action. Although mostly black or strung out girls.

Finally at 5:30 am, I saw a mid 20's Puerto Rican girl walking like she was going someplace. Caught her eye and Picked her up. Name is Carmen.
said she had been in and out all night. Doesn't Like to call attention to herself. Offered her $20 for a BJ in the car as we had no other place to go.
She said whatever. Pulled over to a side street. Very good BBBJ. Would n't let me touch her hair or tits during BJ. A jogger came by the car, saw us, and I lost it. Damn guy put me over the edge. Gave her a ride to her home as she was done for the night. She has no cell, or pager, so I gave her my cell #. Attitude was weird, but what a mouth. Told her I would give her another $30 if she could make me come again right then, but she wasn't interested.
Oh well, i am so tired now, I can barely type. Happy hunting

Roy
04-24-02, 16:31
Hi,

Been out of town for a while and decided to stop in at the Executive this week. I have been going there for over 10 years and have always had a good time. Although the girls vary in age and looks, they are all very nice. Price is $85.00 for one hour everything included. Even though the girls wont ask for a tip, I always try to give them $20 to $40 depending on the session.
Saw Shiela. She is in her late twenties and very pretty. I'll report on the other girls that I see in the future.

Rocket
04-24-02, 20:16
I was just west of North Ave./Western on Sat. night/Sun. morning around 1:30am or so. Saw some good looking black SWs north of North Ave. Stopped for one and she asked about money and lessons before getting into the car. I politely declined and drove away. My guess is that she was definetely LE.

Also, Slyguy, I'd be like in Mari's phone number too...
rocketmass@yahoo.com

Anyone know of good areas for hispanic SWs?

Todd
04-25-02, 15:41
Having read many post here, I know most of the postings are concerning SW. Have any of you guys tried any of the escorts from eros.com? I had a date with one last October and it was very nice. She was a Russian girl that certainly enjoyed her work.

I was wondering if others have found the service satisfying. I know the cost is considerably more than SW, but I'm willing to pay more for an unrushed GFE.

Thanks.

Todd
04-25-02, 15:54
I went back and looked at eros.com. The girl I was with was Dakota and it says the is Italian. Like I said, it was last year. Any other luck with these girls?

Ishmael
04-25-02, 17:45
Any input on massage parlors in the Midway area? I am in there each week, and am looking for some stress releif?

Also I see the discussion about EROS, but why not open the comments up to Cyber Key or other services?

Thanks much!

HeyDude
04-25-02, 18:03
Hi all,
used to post on old site as anonymous dude.

Saw kelly the other Friday morning about 6:30 a.m,.on my way out of town. I agree she's a bit pricier than the other girls out there. Doesn't hurry or complain and lets me get my hand down her pants while she's frenching. I'd like to try FS some time. Other than her haven;t had a lot of time for cruising lately, the car is not up and running and had to use others'. I'd like to see leah again some time too. Aldo interested in this Mari - asian fantasy chick.

MWM
04-25-02, 19:02
Saw Mary again today (4th time this month) and she was wonderful as ever. But at first I cruised for 30 minutes and didn't see her. I was about to give up and I spotted a cute young girl with dirty blonde hair about 7-8 blocks east of Austin. I stopped and she got in and said let's go to my apt since it's close and safer than parking...I said OK. So we get to her apt (right on Roosevelt) and we are walking up the stairs and I start getting a little leary since she seemed a little strung out. We get inside and there are 3-4 rough looking dudes in the living room and we go right into her bedroom. As soon as I'm in the bedroom (total pig sty) I notice lot's of little pieces of tin foil on the dresser and I'm thinking....get the fuck out. Then I notice a syringe on the nightstand and I freak...on the inside. I stay cool and tell her, opps I forgot my wallet...I'll be right back. I bolted and felt very lucky to get out without a problem. I speed off in my car and 3 minutes later I spot Mary, so all ends well. Anyway, the Junkie's name was Erin, 5'6" tall, thin, dirty blonde shoulder length hair, thin and kind of pale looking. She was standing right in front of her apt when I picked her up around 55th Ct east of Ausitin... Avoid at all costs!!! Mary Rocks!!!

Moneyshot
04-26-02, 07:31
I cruised North av. around 1:00-2:00am finaly picked up a black sw (kim, 22yrs old,from milwaukee) good cbj 40$ Later I pick up "kelly" white 30 something average looks, she wanted 150$ for half and half in a cheap motel, told her I would pass this time. I droped her off where I picked her up . She then gave me her cell # 773-454-1619 . Be Safe. Happy hunting!

Todd
04-26-02, 09:24
Hey, ClubKing01, thanks for the information. You confirm what I've thought, that it will be hit and miss with girls from eros.com. With internet girls, I tend to pick the ones who's pictures don't look too professional, kinda like their boyfriends shot them. I still think good buys can been found there, but one must be careful so as to not just through your money away!

Thanks again

Devlin
04-26-02, 10:48
Mwm, unless you know the sw well, NEVER go to a spot she suggests, she may try to rob u. heydude aka anonymousdude is the kelly you mentioned the same gal who's # moneyshot posted. if so does she speak french well? play safe, happy hunting

TheDude
04-26-02, 10:49
Chester,

I have tried sending you Dawn McBride's information a few times to your hotmail account, but the mail kept returning back to me.

I believe Dawn has 2 kids living with her Grandma. She went to Trumen College and then dropped out a couple of years back. She also danced at the Admiral for a couple of months back in 2000 and was fired. Reasons unknown! She then tried working at Walgreen and quit and started SWing, probably because she wasn't making enough. I have known her since her Admiral days.

I saw her on George (1 blk n. of Diversy on Cicero) one night around December last year. Later she moved further down on Cicero towards Division, etc. I haven't seen her since.

Can you find out if she is in jail using her real name? I don't know how to go about finding her. Any news you find out about her would be appreciated!

Hope this information helps!

Thanks!

The Dude

Rockhound
04-26-02, 12:07
TheDude, you can find out some info on her by calling the jail, the number is in the blue section of the phonebook, under Cook County Sheriff. Depending on who you get on the phone they will search the computer for you. If you have some extra info such as ss# or d.o.b. they will almost always tell you. I have a cousin who's always getting locked up and when I call over there I tell them I want to visit him and give them a name and they'll tell me which division he's at and the visitation times. At least this will get you the answer you're looking for without drawing any attention. Hope this helps you.

slyguy
04-26-02, 12:38
Hey guys, has anyone tried Mari? I forwarded the # to several of you. I plan on trying her out again this weekend. Last night i cruised wabansia from 10pm till about 11:30 saw two fat ugly black girls and nothing else. Cruised down north to cicero, and back to damen, did wabansia again still nothing. What a waste of gas! Hopefully tonight will pick up.

Devlin
04-26-02, 14:47
Hey dudes, according to the Chicago Police Dept home page under the section "about CPD" prostitution related arrest, it seems LE has ONCE again been busy on 47th & Francisco. i post this info because i always write about the area. BECAREFUL. i hope this info helps. play safe, happy hunting

TheDude
04-26-02, 16:20
MWM,

Could you email me the information on Mary that lurks around Roosevelt and Oak Park? I would appreciate the info. on what she looks like, her age, when she comes out usually, the location, etc... a complete rundown if you will?

I have tried finding her umpty times, but so far she is a phamtom to my pursuit. My email is borobudor@yahoo.com

Thanks!

TheDude

Skunkbrother
04-26-02, 19:34
TheDude: Mary is usually out during the day on that Roosevelt stretch. She is a young (maybe 19 or 20?) thin,blonde and looks like a club kid.

MWM:Erin that you described is the same blonde that I posted about a couple of weeks ago(4/12). I'm sorry you had to go through that but thanks for the warning, I had thought about picking her up. You are a braver soul than I to have gone into that apartment sight unseen.

Skunkbrother
04-27-02, 19:11
I was suprised at the amount of girls I saw out today considering the nasty weather. At around 12:30 this afternoon just south of 290 on Cicero, there were about 5 black and white sw's in classic hooker garb (a rarity these days). a little further south on Cicero I saw a bbw sw with the fatest ass I've ever seen on a walker and she was working it too.

I finally caught Mary around 2:30 or so, amazed to find her on a Saturday. She is truly a diamond in the rough and she still has the sweetest disposition.




Happy hunting all.

TheDude
04-27-02, 23:07
Skunkbrother,

Thanks for the info on Mary. Can you provide the time bracket, which days she is most likely to be out, and approximate location?
Since some of you guys have been dating Mary for a while... has she given out any contact phone numbers, etc. so that she has a constant stream of customers?

Last week, I was out shopping in the Vietnamese town, Argyle and Broadway, and saw this beautiful Hispanic girl near the El station around 3:30 PM staring at all the cars passing by. A few cars spotted her, and within a second there was a traffic congestion. Anyways, she got into one of the cars, and I just wished that I was out crusing as well. Funny, I have been to Argyle many times and never thought there were SWs in the neighbourhood. Anyone had any similar experiences finding a SW in Argyle?

Good Luck!

Lady
04-27-02, 23:50
Hi, I,ve enjoyed reading all the posts...my question is how many years have you guys persued this hobby? I used to live off Lincoln ave back in the late 80,s. There seemed to be a better quality of sw back then .

JohnSmi108
04-28-02, 16:29
Many of us arent Hugh Grant either. And with all the girls he can get, even he is prone to alittle SW action. Sometimes alittle quickie from a SW/escort is worth it, than the hassle of getting it from a girlfriend/wife. I remember Steve Dahl talking about escorts and he joked that at least with an escort, you know what it's going to cost you up front...lol.

Lady
04-28-02, 16:36
As a former sw a 16 year old runaway ,I was lucky and never had gotten involved with drugs I was the exception, In all my years I have never met a sw who didnt do drugs in fact I really despised the sw drug addict because here I was tring to eat pay rent get clothes and these girls where out there to get high, I was lucky and had a client preach to me about the drugs and the other girls at a young age , he looked out for me......when i hear about you guys getting bbj,s it really is scary because I,ve had guys tell me that they have gotten sw druggies to give them rim jobs for 5 extra bucks pee in their mouth etc..And they would even offer me...Fortunately I didnt have a drug habit so I declined, but for you guys getting bbj,s how do you know that this junkie didnt have her mouth on some guys asshole 5 min before you, they are the most health concious people you know, Aids in the begining has no symptoms and another thing as far as these girls especially the white ones the always have some black guy..another junkie that they give half of their money to, they need him to go into the ghetto to buy the drugs because if they went theirselves they would get robbed , he in turn gets high for free and gets to fuck her for free, also these girls really despise you and think nothing of your health , jobs or family...you are the lowest form on earth to them just another trick...they could never enjoyhaving sex with you or anyone ese because the drugs have numbed them they can be good actresses and act aroused but this is only to get you to hurry up and come so they can get out of your car and go buy more drugs.....always strap up with these girls as most are not clean unless you want to cut out the middleman and go screw the trick or black guy yourself..you are sharing part of their micro organisms and germs every time you bbj...better to feel less than be dead...take care and be safe guys,Now that I,m older {32 yrs} and have made it here safely because one of you guys lectured me and I listened..I thought it would be nice to return the favor to you....Always strap up. sincerly Lady

Lady
04-28-02, 18:19
Some of you guys have been invaluable to me I still keep in contact with my old guys from 15yrs ago so they have watched me grow up and I have watched them grow with their jobs /families too, I have a partner now for the past 10yrs so its like we are married,I know he enjoys a little variety [sw] but I dont mind him having 10 min of fun, I keep up on all the tracks[ho strolls] he comes in with some good stories.And he has made some mistakes like getting bbj, unfortunatley for me, the sw had gonnoreah of the mucus membranes in her mouth, doctors trip and a barrage of antibiotics and the promise to strap up next time . I actually felt bad for him,but he is honest with me after all I know you guys arent out there promising marriage .[first hand experience].I like all the posts its still exciting reading about the chase , sw,s , etc...better than a book and its real life....I remember a girl that used to give bbj and her client would make her rinse before and after with listerene [supposedly kills germs] could be a helpful alternative.?Take care have fun,Lady

Clubking01
04-29-02, 09:54
Dear Lady:

Thanks so mcuh for adding your insight from the "other side", so to speak.

I, for one, agree with the practice of "covering up", especially nowadays. As an enthusiast with more than 20 years experience in all phases of the "sex game", it is especially enlightening to hear some input from one of the SW's herself.

Things certainly have changed over the years, and for me the hunt and chase has become just as, or important, than the catch.

But for everyone, "to each, his own". Just everyone play safe!

HappyGardener
04-29-02, 10:58
A few thoughts, rantings, etc.

Thank you Lady for adding a serious note to all this. Sometimes our hormone addled brain gets so lost in the fog of lust that we lose our better judgement. I promise from now on to always carry a raincoat with me. I am always surprised that the girls who suddenly launch onto me without one don't have any. Or don't ask me for one. But in reading your post, I guess they are not thinking to clear either.

Like ClubKing, I enjoy the hunt (more than the act?) of wondering around and making eyec contact. Like most things in life, rarely is the fantasy as good as the real thing. I think that hour of driving around is like foreplay to me, and thats why I bust a nut so quickly when I get with the girl. I have been lucky in 20 years of doing this, that I have no diseases and only one arrest that cost be about $1000 when all was said and done.

Uptown action: I have gone up and down Argyle. I live close by. Rarely do I see a girl who is working. The Hispanic girl you saw there was probably passing thru. I have looked and looked for Asian girls up there, but if thhey are there, they are not street action girls. Kind of like Pilsen or Little Village. I am sure the action is there but the local govt keeps it off the street.

I had one more encounter with the PR girl that i met last week. She called my cell phone, and told me she needed $20. We talked for awhile. She sounds like she is trying to do righ thing and get the money for the women who is taking care of her daughter, but I am so cynical, I have a hard time believing it. I am afraid she is going to use it for more rock. She swears no. Lady, what do you think? Do I believe her. Haven't seen her enough to tell if she is using. Doesn't seem strung out. And yes, she has a black boyfriend

Views vs. Postings. Come on People. This morning ther were over 7400 views and 120 postings. Who are all you people? If you are too paranoid to post, you shouldn't be viewing. Create an e-mail account at Yahoo.com or Hotmail.com and get on board. Are you LE checking in on us? Well, give us your side. I for one respect the work that you do. except when it comes to Vice cops and women. I have friends that are cops, and I have done ride alongs in some very seedy parts of this country.

With some many views, I would be very careful about posting the phone number of a provider on the board. Back channel e-mail is probably best for that, IMHO.

Finally, I have to take a short sabbatical from the hobby for monetary reasons
I will may continue to hunt, but not fire the gun. Happy Hunting. Play Safe

Lady
04-29-02, 12:39
Happy gardener, Dont loan her the 20$ If she was a good erson she would already have people she knows that would vouch for her, not some client she barely knows. She is out there to get high, look at it this way, she will trick for dope but not to feed a kid ? whats the difference shes already done it, tell her to get the black boyfriend/drug runner to do it, he is with her after all and if he was truly a boyfriend he could use his resources, if you want to give make her work for it. LOL be carefull

HappyGardener
04-29-02, 13:36
As it turned out, I had too much work to do to meet her. She was willing to do FS for the $20.00....I' would have been happy with just the BJ. I flat out told her that i would give her the money if it was going to the kid. I would take her to Osco to buy diapers or Jewel for food. She turned me down. I told her I would not give her money for Rock. That's my usual reply to people who hit me up for money on the street. I will take them somewhere to buy a meal, and the offer is usually turned down.

It's too bad...she seems like a sweet kid. She still looks fresh, not strung out.

You would be an interesting person to go out on a hunt with. You could give a play by play as we up and down North Ave. We could tape it and produce a show about it: Sort of a "Ex-Street-Girl Confessions" tonight on HBO

By the way, I live off of Lincoln Ave, near where all those hot pillow motels are and used to be. I agree that times have changed in that area. I no longer see any working girls in the area. I was picked up by more than one at "The Bend", a now closed bar north of Bryn Mawr. Mayor Daley hates those motels...guess that is why one is a park, one is police station, and one is a library

In Chicago
04-30-02, 23:18
Haven't seen any posts about these areas, but I've
seen SW activity in two small areas for what it's worth:
Lawrence Av at the small park next to the bridge
over the river. Mainly black, hispanic.

Irving Park near the old mental health center in the blocks on either side of the gas station. White, young. Typical starter jacket types making eye contact and ducking into gangways.

The Cruiser: The chase and sight seeing is 90% of the experience.

HappyGardener
05-01-02, 09:29
In Chicago/The Cruiser:

--Irving Park near the old mental health center in the blocks on either side of the gas station. White, young. Typical starter jacket types making eye contact and ducking into gangways.

Are you talking about the place real far west? What cross streets?
The Lawerence Ave area comes and goes. I often take Lawerence to get to the Kennedy. I can never tell if they are just hanging out for working. Ususally a block either side of that bridge is where you see them.

HappyGardener
05-01-02, 09:35
Finished up work a little early yesterday and decided to drive North Ave & Armitage on the way home. Figured it was end of the month and 5:00 pm; there must be something out. Nothing. Dreadful. In one hour, I saw 3 maybe 4 girls. All 2 or 3's and so strung out, I wouldn't get near them. I did talk to one ok black girl when I stopped at a Panaderia to get some bread to take home, but I had already told my wife i was on my way.

JohnnyBeBad
05-01-02, 10:05
long time reader,just getting around to putting some info out.CLOSE CALL-yesterday i was cruising madison just east of cicero ave.saw a short (about 501)black girl walking east along madison from cicero.HUGE tits!had to be 44DD or better.i sure wanted to suck them and get a good titty fuck.i was going the wrong way and had to go up the street to turn around.there was alot of traffic(4pm)and it took me a minute.imagine my disappointment as i saw her getting into a van.i was behind a bit and was stuck at the stop sign at kilpatrick as the van drove off.when i got to the light at kilbourn there they were.undercover cops had the old white dude up against the van and another was putting handcuffs on the girl.i pulled over and watched as they put handcuffs on the dude.he seemed at least 50 years old or more. they were also going through his van.LUCKY ME-that could have been me,so it must have been my lucky day.got to be careful,it is getting to that season of increased scrutiny by le.good luck guys!

AmonRa
05-02-02, 10:28
Hello Everyone... I was wondering if any of you guys would be interested in trying something that I believe to be new? I came accross a website (www.bangbus.com) that hires SW to "ride" in a bus (rented van) and there is always someone driving the van while the "fun" is had. Therefore the van is never parked and although I am not sure, I would think there is less of a chance of getting busted. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone here might like to try this type of situation?

JohnSmi108
05-02-02, 16:02
Zeb, I havent seen Leah since I last posted about her. But I also havent been out regularly enough to know if she's out there working again. Maybe I saw her on a day she needed money. I'll post if I spot her again.

Bammbamm
05-03-02, 12:51
I was on Roosevelt on the way to another job when I noticed our favorite girl walking... man, not bad at all, I had wished I had time to do stuff, but I, unfortuantely, did not. :(
She's looking good though,
Bamm

Hugh Grant
05-03-02, 20:57
Hey Guys: I picked up a black/Italian sw just off North Avenue wed, she was the only thing out, the LE was looking the first time i wanted to pick her up they went around in the alley and tried to see me pick her up, but i seen them in my mirror. I went down to a gas station and she got in. she wanted 100$ for half/half I offered 75$ she took it. Great cbj and she had the tightest pussy. What is a good price for bj,fs etc in this area? play safe.

JohnSmi108
05-03-02, 21:44
Bammbamm, was our girl wearing a white sweater and blue jeans today?? Well I'm glad you didnt snap her up, because I did. And I had a Yaabaadaabaadoo good time! She's still a sweetheart!!!

I passed by North/Wabansia alittle. I didnt see much except for Nicole, who I saw last month or so. She was at the corner of North/Woods at around 7:15pm. She's alittle chubby, white?/hispanic?,19yo girl, had long brown hair, parted in the middle, tied in back, cute face with a little baby fat and nice boobs. She gave a decent BJ and used a chocolate flavored condom.

Does anyone have any news on Slyguy's Asian, petite girl named Mari??

Azil
05-03-02, 22:22
Picked up a girl named Maritsa (sp?) on North, about three streets west of Western (south side, across from Walgreens). About 7:30 tonight. Puerto Rican, said she's 21 (seems right). Attractive, pleasant, probably a druggie (she seemed a bit hyper and had a constant sniffle).

Totally outstanding BBBJ for $40 (caught it for an extra $20). More than I usually pay for oral, but worth it in this case.

She said she won't do anything but in the car on a first date, and I almost give it a pass because I hate car sex, but I'm glad I didn't. She gave me her phone number and said she would go to a motel for FS next time. There will be a next time. Afterwards, I'll provide a report and pass on her phone number to anyone interested if she says it's okay.

Azil

JohnSmi108
05-04-02, 01:40
I saw a preview of Sat. night's episode of "Cops", which shows a reverse prostitution sting. A "undercover" cop is dressed as a clown, of all things, busitng the working girls. It might be an education, if not funny, episode.

Azil, can you give a physical description of Maritsa?? Thanks.

BigTimeLoser
05-04-02, 19:53
Hey All,

I finally got a chance to go out last night...it's been a while and I was really looking forward to it! I almost like the driving around as much as the sex! I did see the 2 blondes aroun 2am or so (at hermitage and north). I signaled the older of the two--they wanted $200 for 2. I dated the younger one before, and yes, she does have a kid. I think her name is Alyssa or something like that--I may have done a post about her before. She usually asks for $135 for an hour, which includes the room. I did see her once for I think $60 for CBJ. I have seen the very short Asian girl out last weekend--she seemed kinda cute, but not my type. There were some damn fine black sws about last night around wabansia/hermitage. I ended up hooking up w/ one of them...that was how desparate I was! I really wanted to screw the one blonde from the duo so bad that it got me really worked up...so it was maybe 3:30 am and I had only the black sws to choose from. Well, there was an older, tired looking white sw working a little further west on wabansia, but fuck that...I hate wasting money on unattractive women. Anyways, I picked up Lisa and she was fu**ing awesome! She wanted $60 for CBJ, $100 for FS. Firm tits and a very nice ass. I took the CBJ for $40 and she was a pro. She spent 30 mins total time w/ me and I gave her another $20 for being patient. Lisa was the first black sw I picked up in almost 5 years!!! Hey, so what do you guys listen to for the hours that you cruise around? I listen to ESPN 1000 and the Sports Doc when I cruise on Friday/Saturday. Like I said, the driving is just as fun as the action--in fact, I feel cheated if I see a girl immediately upon my arrival to the area--I don't want my night to end that quickly!
As for other action--Armitage was dead.
I think I saw Dawn, but it may be the look-a-like I saw before. This one was at least 30 lbs heavier than the Dawn I know. She was hanging at North and Cicero.
Enjoy!

Moneyshot
05-04-02, 23:52
Sorry to bring this up again, I did have my wallet lifted by a SW who said her name was "Victoria" I had a bad habit of sticking my wallet in between my seat and console. That night I had a lot of money in my car but not in my wallet. Almost any sw would have done the same as she did (my fault) . Chester you could use Yahoo Groups/clubs to post pics or email it to me if you would like to know if its the same girl. I have some pics from mardi gras I would like to share somewhere. Thanks

Lady
05-05-02, 02:10
I had one of you guys look out for me and told me about a massage parlor he mentioned that it was alot safer than the street as he could see that i was young [runaway] and alone.so off I went, I became quite popular in the mp they have a 50/50 split but again alot of the girls that work there were on drugs just like the streets, they would push the drug girls more because they didnt have to give a 50/50 split .they would just keep them high and get all their money,so i got a pager and got the hell out of there.And learned to advertise myself after carefully screening my guys, Some where good some bad, But for my good guys I always tried to make them comfortable, no rushing, always wore heels , makeup,lingere, lit candles. ending each time with a full body massage, good conversation,I,ve even had some guys pull out alot of money or leave their wallets on my table,I would warn them that other girls might not be as honest and try to rip them off...I never did ,after all these were my guys, because of them , I ate and was comfortable and I wanted to make sure that they were comfortable too. Why should I for a few extra $$$ lose someone that would give me that and maybe more by being honest. Its really stupid but drug addicts dont care and i also found in my years an talking to alot of girls/sw that they have a hostility against you guys, but will still bs you and suck your cocks. Especially girls of low intelligence, Their attitude is "Fuck those tricks"...but yet you are the same guys that support them.Its the ultimate biting the hands that feed you, Also some of you guys need to learn to haggle and quit paying dopefiends $$$ all that money, If they are trying to score they will accept just about any amount, You should expect some quality if your going to blow over 50$...trust me if you tell them x amount is all you got they wont turn you down ,some guys on here are paying escort prices to street hookers, there is some sort of status level with these girls you know.For 100 or even 75 or 50 you should be in a clean safe enviorment ,not a car...thats unacceptable, especially if you patronize regularly,What ever happened to getting what you pay for ?......well thats my rant...love the postings guys...play safe and happy hunting.Lady

Oddjob
05-05-02, 02:20
I haven't posted for a while because I don't cruise as much as I did in the past. I've been at this for almost 30 years, getting started in New York and Boston. I remember the good old days with the sex clubs in Chicago Heights, LaGrange and Cicero. I cruised the strolls from Hammond and Chicago Heights up to Lyons township and I've been very lucky. No arrests and no doctor's trips. You could cruise and for $20 you would get to pick from many gorgeous ladies and get your BBBJ, but those days are pretty much gone. Everybody had their favorites and you could find them just about any day. Charlotte in Hammond was one of my all time favorites.

Now all the clubs are gone and the strolls are rather meager. My disposable income is more nowadays and I occasionally visit some of the finer escorts around, but I do miss the old chase. Who knows, I may have dated Lady back in the days because more than once I gave the anti-drug spiel. I was Navy and even smoking a joint got you busted and drummed out, and I never did partake even after I got out.

I do enjoy this forum and the posters. I do plan on getting out now that the weather is getting nice and see what I can find. I'll post when I find something and it's always good to see old acquaintances and get input from you new guys (and ladies) also. Keep up the good work and happy hunting.....

Lady
05-05-02, 02:46
you asked for a story....true..once a reg of mine asks for a two girl but I really dont know any girls so I tell him meet me at 7:00, I go to armitage to find somebody suitable yet cheap, I see a pretty puerto rican girl, long hair nice body...I explain to her the sititation and she says she has to ask her pimp if its okay if she goes with me, of course he says yes. he drives her in his shitty station wagon to my place { it looked like they were living in their station wagon] I bring her in and the pimp/blackguy waits,I put her in the shower fix her nails hair makeup, heels, lingere the works then I brief her and tell her to tell him that we are old freinds from school and we,ve known each other a long time [lie]. anyway she looks great she says she has to pee so I leave the bathroom, my guy arrives..I say meet my friend...she takes 3 steps in heels in front of the guy and collapses like a sack of potatoes to the floor passed out cold, I,m like oh shit...so trying to be cool I tell him we,ve been out drinking celebrating her arrival and then iIpolitely excuse myself and drag her into the bathroom, meanwhile I,m like dying...so I pour some water on her she comes to...my guy is waiting wondering what the hell is going on..I,m saying things like hold on honey..I,ll be right out.Iask her what wrong ...whispering because i dont want this guy to freak out and hear me...she tells me she hasnt ate in 3 days so I make her a peanut butter/jelly she declines, I suspect it was something else, now my thought is get her out of here!!!I run out the back door go get her black boyfriend and tell him he,s got to help her out hes like what happened ,I said shes sick...I gave them 20 bucks just to leave..this guys like .."i know she didnt work but we need gas money" I,m like heres 20$ we quiety get her dressed she says 'wait do you want you clothes back?' I,m so disgusted I,m like no honey you can keep them shoes and all!!!I would have to sanatize them with bleach I,m sure!!!Shes apologizing..I,m like its okay..thinking just go finally after 20 min I close the door calmly walk to the front room and explain that my good friend is napping and sorry about the inconvienece..I gave him a discount and he never mentioned anything so who knows what my poor guy was thinking, so a lesson was learned...even though she was pretty...you never know. I still laugh today when I think about that night it was a juggling act for sure.

naturalrookie
05-05-02, 04:45
greetings all, my first posting. i saw a cute sw on north this afternoon wearing pink sweats and a black top, didn't have the nerve to stop with so much traffic. Around 0100 saw the usual bsw's on madison, nothing worthwhile. A cute tall girl w/ black hair and dark features on south cicero but a minivan got to her first.
for the regulars - what is the procedure when i see a woman and am not sure if she is working or just going about her business? where is a massage parlor where i can get a hj from an attractive lady.?
thanks for the postings - good luck

Boko
05-05-02, 17:26
I'm probably on a wild goose chase here, but anyway. I knew a sw a few years ago named "Helen". Redhead, 5'4" or so, mid to late thirties, she had a kid. She usually hung out on North. She was really great. Has anyone encountered her recently, or ever for that mater? (fingers are crossed) thanks

HappyGardener
05-06-02, 09:41
Hey All,

Back in town after 4 days. Looked for mary on Roosevelt on Thursday afternoon, but no luck. Wekcome to the newbies, thanks for the postings.
Need to get some other work done today first, then i will post some comments to some of the postings.

AmonRa, I recognize you from other postings. I am in if you want to get a bus.

HeyDude
05-06-02, 13:50
Was out Friday night saw two blond girls at Wabansia and Wolcott. Drove around a few times since I hadn't seen them before. It seemed like a possib. set up so I dated Rebecca instead.

Saturday a.m. i saw "Sally" about a 4-6, white. On Oakley and North. (i've had some luck over there in the past) Looked like she lost weigth since last time I dated her. I remembered why I told myself I would never pick her up again after the twenty questions began, work, where do I live etc. annoying because she wasn't really trying to make conversation. On the other hand she did a good bbbj

HeyDude
05-06-02, 14:16
Bigtime - was Lisa wearing a light , reflective blue jacket?

I think I saw her too she looked hot, but I too have not picked up black girls for a while.

My first ripped me off - lost a whole (week's) paycheck. In retrospect I was pretty green and stupid at the time. (carrying around more than I needed to spend.

I had two other bad experiences:one with a girl who insisted that I had come when I hadn't and just stopped, another with a girl who kept asking for more money to catch it in her mouth and took the money and didn't do so.

naturalrookie
05-06-02, 14:52
i was coming back from indiana and stopped into the IS club. they said there was full contact and such and such and private dances were from 24 to 50. do any of those girls ever get you off for anyprice? i too would like to go for a bus ride.

genuis8
05-06-02, 19:02
Industrial Strip: Does have Full Contact dance. 1 song for $25, 2 for $40, and 3 for $50. Fully nude. You go upstairs where a bouncer guards the hallway, and the girl will guide you into a curtained off cubicle with a chair.

You sit on the chair while she grinds on your lap. Your hands can not touch below the waist. Sometimes she will rub her breasts in your face.

Full contact, all right. But you keep your pants on and no extras. Girls are not that hot wither.

BigTimeLoser
05-06-02, 21:28
Hey all,

Went out again last night--I found Ivy, a tall young brunette , at Wabansia and Hermitage. She asked for $100, but i ended up getting half and half for $50. Very good and sloppy bbbj for a young girl--she says she is 20. She was a real freak too---she kept playing w/ herself the whole time. She hangs w/ some loser boy that she says is her pimp. She says she makes over $500 a night and gives it all to this dweeb. I was thinking of jumping this puny bastard just to get the money! I really hate pimps, and I get annoyed especially when some little weasel-fuck robs girls blind. I just may stick his ass up next time I see him :)
Heydude--i can't rememebr the jacket Lisa was wearing, but I do know that it was dark and not flashy--i think it was a jean jacket.
Enjoy!

JohnnyBeBad
05-07-02, 09:05
been trying some off stroll areas of late and scored a touchdown last night.was going east on roosevelt at pulaski and made a right turn to go south on pulaski.made eye contact with a short black girl at the bus stop who smiled.i pulled over and she ran across the street and got in.said her name was latoya.after she was convinced i wasn't a cop,we drove to ogden just west of pulaski and parked.she was giving some great bbj for $10.when i didn't get off in about 5 minutes i asked her to sit on my bone.all she wanted was another ten.she got on(covered)and was going like a piston.finally afer another ten minutes i blew.gave her an extra five.she was really into it and said she got off also.

HappyGardener
05-07-02, 09:30
In regards to Industrial Strip; one of the posters on the Indiana Board complained about a scam where the the guy pays for three dances, the girl complains to the bouncer after one, and they throw you out of the club, keeping your money. Dancer and bouncer split the money. Could be sourgrapes, but it remminds me of what my daddy always said: "You'll get f***ed in a strip club, but you won't get laid".

had a couple of conversations but no date with Slyguys Asian honey. just couldn't find the right time. Said she got robbed on North Ave last week by a guy with a knife, so she may stay off the streets.

I too generally stay away from the black SW's, but Every once in awhile I will pick up a black girl like Johnnys. I guess you have to watch for the ones that don't look like street girls. I had a similar experience several years ago with a girl on North Ave, who wasn't working, just waiting for a bus. I wish I had given her my then pager number when she asked for it.

Figured out why I don't like $60.00 Bj's. I don't last long enough with most of the girls. I had a chance encounter over the weekend with a friend and she ended up giving me head. The slow, lingering kind where she went on and on just teasing me. the girls I pick up are so eager to get me off and get back on the street that I don't get to enjoy the action. Just my two cents on prices.

Bill_Gates_Mom
05-07-02, 14:45
I had a really good experience with a black SW in Chicago once. I am not from here but I travel here often, went out and was surprised at all the action and the quality of SW. I think it was near Cicero I picked up this hot young SW named Tianna. Young around 20-23, nice long legs, firm tits and a cute face. I just wanted a BJ and I gave her $40 for it, put the condom on and she got to work, really seemed into it and worked me over good. She asked me if I wanted sex for $20 more and I was really horny by this time and agreed, we were in my car and she rode me in the driver seat hard and fast, very vocal and wanted me to spank her, we got into all kinds of weird positions I didnt think possible in my little sports sedan, she then said for $20 more she would take it in the ass. Of course I agreed so she got on top of me and I plunged deep into her. She took it well but not for long so she got off whipped my condom off and sucked me off some more and even tossed my salad! Of course I blew a messy load all over my damn seat but it was worth it! Great experience for $90, saw her a few more times after that but I havent seen her recently. This was about a year ago. Anyone here know her?

HappyGardener
05-08-02, 10:00
Rantings/Reporting

Sorry Chester, I was going off an earlier post for your address.

Carmen, the young PR that I hooked up with a couple of weeks ago, called me yesterday. I was supposed to pick her up at Kedzie and Fullerton at 10:00pm. We actually were going to go on a "date"...dinner, drinks, etc. I wanted to give her the no drugs lecture and pay attention to your kid lecture. Dammed if I didn't drive back and forth between Kedzie and Kimball for an hour. I even drove down near Division where her kid stays with someone looking for her. Finally at 11:45, just as I am pulling into the garage, she calls me. By this time, i was tired, thirsty, hungry, and frusrtated.
Told her I was going to bed, hung up and immediatly regretted that. Just didn't feel like driving back down there. She told me she was with her kid, putting her to bed. Oh well, another day. I can't figure out if she does this regularly cuz I never see her, and she has no set prices. It's usually, "whatever you can give me to help me out".

I drove up and down North, Wabansia, and Armitage last nite from 11:00 to 11;30. Never went east of Ashland. Nothing out..I think it was just too cold last nite and too near the beginning of the month. I did see one black SW, but she was right near a domestic disturbance on North where there 5 squads. We made eye contact, but I kept going.

Radio survey: Sometimes I listen to music (XRT, The Mix) or sometimes nothing. Talk Radio drives me nuts after awile, and i am usually hunting to relax.

Bammbamm
05-08-02, 11:10
I will have some info in a few days about a new girl that goes by the name Victoria, she does incall out of her apt or travels, she's kind of new. I met her through the # I have posted about previously. She says she loves what she does and she does if partly because she craves sex often and she doesn't want a steady guy as she has her own buisness ( other than this ) and doesn't want to be tied down. She incalls near the O'Hare area and will travel for a few bux more. The norm is around $$ for fs and I will detail more what she will and won't do later as I have a meeting with her today. She seems like a diamond in the rough and hopefully we'll have a new "toy" ;)

Bammbamm

JohnSmi108
05-08-02, 20:50
Greetings gentlemen,

I did alittle scouting earlier today. At around 2:45pm, I saw a hot looking blonde standing on the corner of North/Honore. She was wearing blue jeans, a long, black coat with a black top underneath, and also had a black and grey scarff. I realized that it was Rebecca. I hadn't seen her since late last year and she usually wore a black leather coat and dress pants or something. She still looked hotter than ever. She had her hair tied in back. It was nice to see her dress more casual. If she'd only provide consistent good, friendly, unrushed service and lowered her price, she'd be a keeper.

At around 5:30pm, I saw another white girl at the corner of North/Wolcott. She had long, dark hair bundled up on top, around 5'5"/5'6", maybe 120-130lbs or so. She was in all black and looked average to decent.

At around that time I also saw this skanky SW that I'm sure you guys have seen and avoided like the plague. I've usually seen her by North/Oakley or North/Winchester. She had shoulder length, straight brown hair tied in the back. She was petite and skinny, but in a very unhealthy way, had alot of acne or sores on her hollow, face and tries to make eye contact with any guy.

Anyways, she must've come into some money because she was nicely dressed today. She was wearing a brown leather coat, brownish top, and a brown, pinned stripped, dress pants. I think she ever wore some makeup. I still wouldn't touch her with a ten foot pole.

BigTimeLoser
05-08-02, 21:29
Hey Chester,

Ivy was about 5'9 to 5'10 in height, brunette hair, tied back--probably shoulder length or so. She is a little thicker than average, but she is not fat or "thick" by any means. Firm ass and tits. No phone number. She said she is from Detroit. She hangs w/ her "pimp"...and honestly, she looks like she could beat the crap out of him. She is young, extremely cool, but in a hood-rat kinda way.

Hey JohnSmi--I know exactly who you are talking about--that girl is like the plague. I picked her up back in 1998 and dropped her off in 2 minutes because all of that "acne" looked more like "herpes". I'm pretty paranoid, so I err on the side of caution. I can tell you this--she is in much worse shape now. She is so pale--literally, she is "walking" death. My advice to everyone is pass by her...you may just live longer.

BigTimeLoser
05-08-02, 21:36
Hey all,

I would really love to see this Rebecca that everyone talks about. I cruise a lot and I have yet to really ID her. I do see this one blonde that walks by herself around 12:00am to 3:00am. This young girl has her hair tied up, usually, She told me she wanted $120 for full service and $60 for BJ, but I passed....I never did get her name because she was out of my car in seconds. If anyone can provide me w/ some accurate info on how to ID her, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks!

Skunkbrother
05-09-02, 02:30
I've had some ISP problems so I haven't been able to post lately/ It's been great catching up on the previous posts.

I was out tonight around 9:00 or so, saw a brunette with shoulder length hair around the North/Damen intersection she looked pretty cute but I was in the wrong lane to make a turn so I thought I'd just drive on and see what was further west. Saw a cute latina in classic hooker garb near Norht and Western. I was a little leary of her simply because she looked like she had gotten dressed in the "wardrobe" department of some police station if you know what I mean.


The bangbus sounds like a plan count me in!

JohnnyBeBad
05-09-02, 08:13
cruised through Summit late last night and between downpours,picked up a tall black girl named Pam.got her on 63rd about two blocks east of Archer going towards Harlem.we went across Harlem to the industrial area just north of 63rd.she gave great head for $25.00.took her time and wanted me to rub her bubble ass as she was sucking.

HappyGardener
05-09-02, 15:53
Have any of you picked up girls off a 976 line? I have called 976-MEET over the years and can usually hook up with some girl working out of a motel or apt. I have taken two for the team lately. Met a girl named Victoria that worked out of an apt on Dearborn & Division. Told me she was blond, 120#, attractive....well she was 150#, saggy tits, big hips, Supposed to be $100 for an hour. Well it was $100 for maybe 12 minutes. "I'll makeup for it next time" No kids, but a pooch stomach and a bad knee so only missionary. A couple of licks at the Y and she faked an O. Covered BJ. Pulled me on top of her and told me we had to hurry up as her friend that owned the apt could come home anytime.

Second one was a black girl named Candy South Side near South Shore and 71st. 30 y.o., but looked 40. used to do crack. No kids but a thick body, 3 may be 4 in the face and body. Won't go back. BBBj was good but I was pretty turned off by the surroundings and her. She met me at the door naked, pulled me in the bedroom and had me drop trou so we could get going. Took me longer to drive there from the North Side than all the time I was in her apt. I had told her on the way down that I knew about a dozen guys who would be interested in regular outings if she treated me right, but I won't go back. She asked me for $50, I gave her $40. i guess that should have been my first clue. I have gotten some pretty girls for next to nothing, simply because they needed the money.

Like Thick and others post later on (or before depending on how you read these posts) I have been dissappointed more often than I have been excited.

The whole reason I called the chat line that morning was that I was still worked up after Carmen had blown me off and the monster wouldn' sleep!
Of course she called later on. Oh well.

Bammbamm
05-09-02, 16:00
Happy, I have been on 976 3825 and had pretty good luck as well as weird as hell luck, or just weird...
I posted about it in the old forum, but one encounter was a girl who just wanted someone to come and fuck her silly, I get there, she was kinda scary and had open sores on her tits, needless to say, I got the hell outta there !
One thing you hae to watch for on that line is guys pretending to be girls, my Gaydar catches most, but every now and then, one almost gets through and they kinda creep you out.
I am "working another girl named "Victoria" but she doesn't sound like the same one you are talking about. back channel me if you wanna compare, there is some specific info that I can see if they are the same girl.
Play safe,
Bamm !

thicksix
05-09-02, 17:34
Bamm and others:

Your Victoria sounds like one I met from the 976 line. She did incall at a friends apartment near O'Hare. The friend came back before we were done. Victoria describes herself as a tall, sexy blonde. She actually has a very large pooch stomach and was not enthusisastic about anything except giving me a quick bbbj. I resisted and we went at it for a while. She won't do doggy or her on top because she has a bad knee. Overall a bad and wierd experience. I have been with probably a half-dozen women from the line and with the exception of one (who is no longer working) all have been disappointing.

Skunkbrother
05-09-02, 17:49
I did the Mannheim stroll this afternoon. Boy, what a disapointment that area has become. I knew it would be but I thought I'd take a chance and check it out.

JohnSmi108
05-10-02, 01:06
BigTimeLoser, I havent been doing the late night cruise, but based on last year's cruise, Rebecca usually worked the Wabansia/Wolcott or Wabansia/Winchester corner at around 11pm and on. She has shoulder length, straight, blonde hair, around 5"5", average weight. I've seen her smoking sometimes. Up close, she has smoldering eyes and almost pouty lips. I've seen her during the days after 1pm around North/Wolcott or North/Honore corner.

The very first time I tried to pick Rebecca up was by Wolcott at night. She wouldnt get into my car and just talked business from the passenger window, which set off a red flag and I did the "oh, I thought you were looking for a ride" thing and left. She looked really hot and thought she was a cop until I waited to seer her to get picked up later on. And then she was back out there in less than 20 minutes. I had a feeling that I would regret picking her up, but the looked hot and had to try at least once. Live and now I have learned.

BTW, I've only seen her once. Maybe she's more generous with her time the more you see her or maybe it was just me. She's business friendly enough. But I wouldnt want to blow another $50 to find out and get buyers remorse again.

JohnnyBeBad
05-10-02, 11:09
here is another little area where one might pick up some reasonably priced head.check out the industrial park type area located north of lake st.from ashland going east to damen.i got some great head about a month ago from a black sw named "april".she was on walnut just east of damen.usually several girls working the area during the day.haven't been around at night though,so i don't know if any girls hang out there then.not too much in the way of cops,but once in a while you see a squad.just try parking between many of the cars parked near factories and you won't have a problem.good hunting.

Clubking01
05-10-02, 11:45
Here’s another phone line that is free to listen but you prepay for minutes then they are deducted for the time you send messages. It’s LavaLine (312) 263-6666.

I’ve had some success there as you post an ad in one of several categories including, “Single seeking casual dating”, “Single seeking erotic encounter”, “Attached seeking discreet affairs”, etc.

They have a category for “Fetishes”and “Safe Sex” too. Many escorts and working girls post messages there asking for “generous” men, the usual tip off. One good thing is that they also have a live chat line (LavaLounge) that you can send messages to others on the line at the same time. Your prepaid minutes are deducted on a minute basis on the live line.

About a month ago kinda late at night, I was on the line and there was a nice sounding girl looking to “hook-up” that night. I sent her a message, we went live and I arranged an outcall to my house. She was there within the hour.

As Bammbamm and happygardener have commented already however, she didn’t look exactly like she promised, but not bad, and I was in a mood to get laid. She said she was blonde, about 145 lbs with 40DD tits, a usual tip off that she’s really a big girl. In reality, she was blonde, had the 40DD’s, but probably weighed closer to 170 lbs. Not bad facially, but not great. Anyway, I decided that if I was spending my $$, I would really work her over.

We did every conceivable position, and a t one point had nearly four fingers in her as she sucked me off and moaned and groaned considerably. So although she wasn’t someone I might have met in person and been interested in, I made my own fun anyhow, and she was quite accommodating and getting off on it, too.

Another time I was able to arrange a “double” with two very young girls on the line. I went to their apartment only about ten minutes from my house. One girl said she did exotic dancing, while the other was studying film at Columbia College. This was a real good time for $$$, and I even stayed later to watch the one girl’s film project, which was pretty good.

So the YMMV does apply here, but there seem to be a lot of providers using LavaLine to get customers, especially late in the evening.

Anyone interested in further details on the line, let me know.

Clubking01
05-10-02, 12:00
Also with regard to LavaLine, as previously noted, there are some gays that do try to pass themselves off as women, a couple of them will say they are transsexuals. So keep that in mind.

I did have a discussion with one "girl" one time, as as things progressed, she finally admitted "she" was a he, and that ended that. You couldn't tell by the voice however, he really had that part down.

HappyGardener
05-10-02, 12:03
DANGER, WILL ROBINSON!!! DANGER!!!
Bamm and others;
The bad knee triggered a memory in me. That sounds like the Victoria I hooked up. I had forgotten about, because I was so dissappointed in everything else. Dirty Blond hair, Poochy stomach, dressed in lingerie when I got there. I don't know, sounds like the same Victoria.
Beware her, i still hear her on the line.

Gay guys on the 976 lines:. Yeah my gaydar goes off too. Having been involved in film, theatre and the arts for 25 years, I have been around a lot of gay men and can hear the voice nuances. But I don't know...if you close your eyes while they are on their knees....LOL.
It's like that old joke: if you and I go camping and you wake up with a sore ass and a used condom in your sleeping bag, would you tell anybody?
Wanna go camping?

Big D
05-10-02, 15:56
Hey guys. Still have not found a FS AMP in the city. Recently visited an AMP in the city. Almost $$ for neither FS, nor oral. However, if you visit, ask for Li (Lee?). Not very good in the face, but incredible in the chest. Full D's.

I won't post the exact location of the place, since these places have so much trouble staying in business anyway, but it *is* east of the main drag of Koreatown.

Bammbamm
05-10-02, 16:51
One more thing, there is a guy named Tom, he calls the 976 lines all the time. He can mimic a woman's voice PERFECTLY, its uncanny. At any rate, just to save someone some agitation, Her ( his) message goes sumthing like this:" Who out there wants to come and fuck me, no games, no bullshit, just come over, fuck me and get the hell out." The voice sounds like a bitchy woman like she's bored and mean, but it SOUNDS like a woman !
She'll use the name Jennifer, Dakota, and another I don't recall, but she'll send you all over the city, but the locations he gives are police stations in various precints. kinda funny, but anyone who buys into it ends upbeing lead on a wild goose chase.
I got him to confess after I wasn't buying his story (hers whatever) anyway, he fessed up and I hear him all the time on the line fucking with peoples' minds.
FYI

Bamm

HappyGardener
05-10-02, 16:58
Hey Bammbamm:
Can't find your e-mail address for back channel on Victoria. E-mail me at threeinches86@hotmail.com.

I redited my orginal story on the 976 lines to include the black girl.

Big D; I think I know of the one you speak. very close to my house. I made the mistake of parking my car in frontone time, and my wife saw it there. had to make up story about how i was in one of the stores close by.
The talent line up there changes all the time. Is it still one girl with no mamasan? E-mail me if you don't want to post.

BTW, I finally talked to slyguys Mari. She says she has been very sick, wouldn't say with what, and that she was going to thhe doctor tomorrow.
Said she would not be seeing anyone for the rest of the month. Promised she would call me at the end of the month. We'll see. She is a little gunshy right now...some guy pulled a knife on her on North Ave, and took back all his money.

Rooster
05-13-02, 00:49
I am a little new to this so please bear with me if I sound like a rookie. I was in the North Ave/Ashland area on both Tuesday night and Saturday night. I noticed that Tuesday LE was evreywhere and Saturday LE wasn't too heavy. Is this pretty common? I would think it was the other way around.

By the way, thanks to everyone for all of the great advice on the postings. I have learned quite a bit from everyone.

Happy hunting and be safe everyone.

venusmons
05-13-02, 11:25
Hey all, this is my first post I hope it helps. I have lived in wicker prk for 3 years and have been with many different sw. While coming back into town on saturday nigh/ sunday morning, my expectatiosn were very low because teh weather had been awful.. I drove around and just off of north avenue on the first side street west of it, there were a couple of black sw. I dorve around the block a few trimes and talked to one who waneted 60 for a bj. I passed and moved along, I saw a fairly cute3 black women when I drove back down the sidestreet again, asked ehr she said 50 I offered 35 and were on our way. Her name is Nikkiem she is black, huge breasts, smelled great and she gave a great bj. She even offered to take mty number so she could call me, I declined this but took hers and am sure I will be back, She will do incall also.... Maybe someone else has seen her(she has a pierced lower lip ansd is from Waukegan. Hope this helps. BTW this was at 4:00 am and I am usually never oiut this late. At leastr I have a number now

mons

HappyGardener
05-14-02, 09:28
I was in Berwyn last night and decided to drive my old late 8o's, early 90's route thru Cicero and take a look. From 8:30 to 9:00 I drove up and down Roosevelt from Harlem to Austin looking for the elusive mary. I didn't see her.
Went down to Cermack to see if Lucianos was still in business. It is becoming a Mexican Restaurant. I was in there on the Thursday and Friday night before they were bombed. I dropped a lot of Jacksons in that place. I guess all the good fashion places are now long gone...

Anyway stopped in the gas station at Roosevelt and Ridgeland and talked to two tired looking, semi-drunk white girls. Kinnd of trailer park looking. Could have gotten a BJ for $20 eiher in the car or in the laundry room of the apt complex next door. Passsed.

On down to Cicero and Roosevelt. The whole stretch was dead. Cicero was dead. the motels had no action in front. Still vacant lots where all the old sex clubs were. One black SW on the way to 290. Cicero is torn up from the expressway to North Ave, so I jumped on 290 and took Sacromento up to North Ave. Prrety quiet. Armitage quiet. Saw Chesters Black transvestite by the Walgreens. 10:30pm.

By this time, I decided I was gioing to pass on everything else. Rather save my money for a better night. Every women I saw on North was tired looking and hard looking. All of them were carrying a few extra pounds too. Saw a couple of cute Hispanic girls on Armitage, but gone by the time I turned around.
I continued to drive North and Armitage, hoping that maybe I would see that one great street goddess, but she was not to be found last night. Never went east of Ashland. Wabansia quiet too.
Home by midnight.

HappyGardener
05-14-02, 09:35
Greenmachine. No recommendations from me as the outcall girls usually want $$$. www.*********.net has a very active Chicago board. Eros.com has some of the same girls advertising on its pages. Are you in the city or burbs?




I was in Berwyn last night and decided to drive my old late 8o's, early 90's route thru Cicero and take a look. From 8:30 to 9:00 I drove up and down Roosevelt from Harlem to Austin looking for the elusive mary. I didn't see her.
Went down to Cermack to see if Lucianos was still in business. It is becoming a Mexican Restaurant. I was in there on the Thursday and Friday night before they were bombed. I dropped a lot of Jacksons in that place. I guess all the good fashion show places are now long gone...

Anyway stopped in the gas station at Roosevelt and Ridgeland and talked to two tired looking, semi-drunk white girls. Kinnd of trailer park looking. Could have gotten a BJ for $20 eiher in the car or in the laundry room of the apt complex next door. Passsed.

On down to Cicero and Roosevelt. The whole stretch was dead. Cicero was dead. the motels had no action in front. Still vacant lots where all the old sex clubs were. One black SW on the way to 290. Cicero is torn up from the expressway to North Ave, so I jumped on 290 and took Sacromento up to North Ave. Prrety quiet. Armitage quiet. Saw Chesters Black transvestite by the Walgreens. 10:30pm.

By this time, I decided I was gioing to pass on everything else. Rather save my money for a better night. Every women I saw on North was tired looking and hard looking. All of them were carrying a few extra pounds too. Saw a couple of cute Hispanic girls on Armitage, but gone by the time I turned around.
I continued to drive North and Armitage, hoping that maybe I would see that one great street goddess, but she was not to be found last night. Never went east of Ashland. Wabansia quiet too.
Home by midnight.

Big D
05-14-02, 10:17
About a year to a year and a half ago I picked up the Gentlemen's Pages and called a place that advertised Chinese girls. It turned out to be an incall in Bridgeport. There was only one girl, and the traffic was all Chinese. The place was just an apartment with her in a bedroom.

I think everything was about $$1/2, but I'm not sure. Anyway, I have not been back, but this might be an outlet for some of the searching for AMPs in Chinatown people were doing a while back. I'm sure there are still incalls for Chinese girls down in that area. I think the ad is gone, but it might be something to keep an eye out for.

Lady
05-14-02, 15:57
Chester and Gardener sounds like you guys had a bad hunt aaaaw but thats sometimes the fun of it, if I was still in the game I .d give you something to write about...lol, hey when are you guys going to post some pics?would be interesting to look at . The other morning on my up 47th at cicero I saw a white sw cute with a black sw the thing abut them is the had matching gogo boots the white sw had brunette hair and didnt seem to bad this was about 8:00am probably coming in after being out all night, never saw them before havent seenthem since.oh well be safe guys.

MWM
05-15-02, 00:11
Chester, you are the man...I've been looking for Heather for 3 years. I dated her a couple (3 or 4) years ago twice and she's been on the top 10 list since. Mr Makey Says "Drugs are Bad...Uhum". It's a shame to hear it though, because she was such a sweetie!!

CoolGuy
05-15-02, 15:18
I don't buy that there is no action on Manheim. I was there a couple of weeks ago and cruised the street late at night-10 pm. Picked up a white SW near denny's. 30 for bj and 60 for fs. Took her to my motel and had relaxed 1 hour fs. She wanted to come back later that night and stay with me overnight but I politely declined. Her name is stacy, she is 32 about 7 in looks and 9 in attitude.

ctjohn
05-15-02, 23:06
Originally posted by happygardener
Greenmachine. No recommendations from me as the outcall girls usually want $$$. www.*********.net has a very active Chicago board. Eros.com has some of the same girls advertising on its pages. Are you in the city or burbs?




I was in Berwyn last night and decided to drive my old late 8o's, early 90's route thru Cicero and take a look. From 8:30 to 9:00 I drove up and down Roosevelt from Harlem to Austin looking for the elusive mary. I didn't see her.
Went down to Cermack to see if Lucianos was still in business. It is becoming a Mexican Restaurant. I was in there on the Thursday and Friday night before they were bombed. I dropped a lot of Jacksons in that place. I guess all the good fashion show places are now long gone...

Anyway stopped in the gas station at Roosevelt and Ridgeland and talked to two tired looking, semi-drunk white girls. Kinnd of trailer park looking. Could have gotten a BJ for $20 eiher in the car or in the laundry room of the apt complex next door. Passsed.

On down to Cicero and Roosevelt. The whole stretch was dead. Cicero was dead. the motels had no action in front. Still vacant lots where all the old sex clubs were. One black SW on the way to 290. Cicero is torn up from the expressway to North Ave, so I jumped on 290 and took Sacromento up to North Ave. Prrety quiet. Armitage quiet. Saw Chesters Black transvestite by the Walgreens. 10:30pm.

By this time, I decided I was gioing to pass on everything else. Rather save my money for a better night. Every women I saw on North was tired looking and hard looking. All of them were carrying a few extra pounds too. Saw a couple of cute Hispanic girls on Armitage, but gone by the time I turned around.
I continued to drive North and Armitage, hoping that maybe I would see that one great street goddess, but she was not to be found last night. Never went east of Ashland. Wabansia quiet too.
Home by midnight.

JohnnyBeBad
05-16-02, 08:43
i have too slightly disagree about Mannheim Rd.sure you can find some girls out there,but this area is NOTHING like it was years ago.the quality of the girls has also fallen off.a lot of crackhead thin white girls.i remember the old days when good looking white and black girls where all over this area.the cops have heated up this area and arrest quite a few of the girls.one girl i know who used to work this area avoids because of all the LE hassle. from what she tells me most of the girls are afraid of some county sheriff named paul.this also goes for the girls who work cicero ave.i've even had some girls get in my car and ask me if i'm this paul cop.the cops also do regular stings in this area.beleive me.if you were around this area years ago it is totally changed for the worst.now,yesterday i picked up a busty black sw on st.charles rd.in maywood.not too much in the way of LE hassle here.bbbj for 20 bucks.swallowed.said her name was dora.good hunting guys!

HappyGardener
05-16-02, 09:48
Lady:
Well. here is your chance to give me something to write about. My wife is going out of town first weekednd in June and I am lineing up entertainment.
Time slots are availble anytime over the weekend. Just leave me with enough strength to paint the kithchen while she is gone!! Or if you just want to come over and paint, email me.

Sorry about the double postings earlier from me...it was supposed to be a reedit and something happened. And i am not sure why ctjohn quoted me and didn't post anything.

Mannheim is nothing like it used to be. Even 5 years ago, I could arrangge after hours action with the fashion show girls at Playpen or mardi Gras. Now they wear pantyhose. One step Beyond used to have a Bamboo screen for private dances where I got head all the time. Now i stop at the adult bookstores for solo action in a movie booth everyonce in awhile

OK , so yesterday I had to be at 39th and Cicero to work at 7:30am. I left a little extra travel time because of wonderful Chicago traffic. Thought I might try the action at 47th & Cicero if I had enough time. I know there was posting waring about heavy traffic in that area, but s***!!!. At 7:15 in the morning,it took almost 10 minutes to go 10 blocks northbound back to I-55. I tried it again around 4:00pm and it was the same thing. Plus I didnt see any girls out. Too frustating to me to drive in that traffic. Never went south of 47th. I figured it would be too hard to double back and catch up with a women anyway. Do girls operate out of the Sportsman Inn? It may be better to sit in the McDonalds or in a parking lot and observe the action instead of driving around.

Worked my way across town on the boulevards until I was back in Humboldt Park. Hard to tell the working girls when it is sunny and 70 outside. All the young girls were out strutting their stuff. Saw a couple of black SW on the West side in hooker garb, and some girls waiting for a bus who made eye contact, but passed.

North Ave and Armitage were dead until 5:30 when suddenly the Walgreens area had 5 or 6 girls. I talled to one in the Walgreens parking lot, but her eyes were slits, glassy-eyed and mumbling. I was literally turning North onto Western to go home when a girl crossing the street caught my eye. I doubled back and stopped in front of the auto parts store.

PR girl, mid 20's, 4 kids and has a poochy baby belly that was hanging out over the middrift. Not my usual, but she had a cute face, nice eyes and overly made up lips that most of the Hispanic girls have. $20 and bought her an ice cream from a sidewalk vendor. BBBJ while we drove around the neighborhood.. Too many people out to stop anywhere. Says she does exotic dancing and after party entertaining. Told me about a hourly hotel on Sacramento and Jackson that rents rooms for $25 with a $5 key deposit. Said it is pretty clean. Black neighbor hood. i think I know the one. No pager, no cell, kids don't live with her.. Only way to meet her again was to set up an appoitment right then. What fun is that?
Back to Berwyn tonight, but spposed to be rainy and cold. may start saving my money until my wife free weekend at the end of the nonth.

Clubking01
05-16-02, 09:54
Hi Everyone:

I get to the 47th and Cicero area about twice a month around rush hour and subsequently get to check out the SW action in the area.

Monday, I thought I saw the tall brunette I saw back on 4-22-02 walking with another girl southbound on Cicero past 50th street. I got a little better look at her and although I was in the second car at the light, I thought I got a faint “head nod” from her.

Anyway, this girl is gorgeous. Nice, shoulder-length curly hair. Nice body. As can be expected, she was gone by the time I got around the block. I don’t know what happened to her girlfriend. I had to leave for an appointment anyway, but I do believe this was the same girl. She had on a short, dark jacket and tight black jeans. If anyone knows anymore about her, please post.

I finally had a couple hours Wednesday and decided to return to the 50th and Cicero area to seek out this girl again. No luck, but here’s some of the other SW action I did see yesterday:

Two Black SW in traditional garb at 50 th and Cicero around 4:45 p.m. One was tall, long legs, short red skirt and black jacket. The other was shorter, with reddish hair, wide hips, wearing shorts. The tall one was on the phone by the Marathon station. A car pulled in, she talked to the driver and then he drove off. Apparently couldn’t reach a fee agreement. She then walked across Cicero and stood and talked with the other black SW for a long time.

A bit later I saw a stream of cars following a decent looking blonde wearing a low cut red top and blue jeans walking west on 49th Ave away from Cicero. As you can expect, she was long gone until I saw her about a half-hour later near the McDonalds on 47th and Cicero. She had a decent body but looked a little spaced out. Also on 49th and Cicero was a rather ugly white SW with long curly hair, small tits and a big belly. She also had on very short shorts. I even avoided eye contact.

My elusive trip continued. Back by the Marathon, I saw a cute blonde in a white top with light blue Capri pants jump into a pick-up and he then sped off. I wasn’t sure she was working until sometime later I saw her walking out of the alley behind the Marathon. I was stopped at the light on 50th and had hoped she would have stayed right where she was until the light changed, but she walked out across the station to Cicero. The light changed, I went to the alley, but by that time, someone else was picking her up.

I rode around a little more, but never saw her again. I left to go home at about 6:15 p.m.

Overall, beside the heavy rush hour traffic, this does seem like a good place for SW action. I didn’t see a lot of LE, but Devlin has pointed out in the past that it can be heavy here, so watch out. Boy, I wish I’d see that tall brunette again!

Clubking01

TheDude
05-16-02, 10:57
Guys,

Had an interesting event yesterday.

I was crusing around archer and cicero and saw a blond (thin) and a brunette (heavy) by the Burger King around 3:00 PM.

As I continued North, I saw this sexy brunette in white top and short jeans get out of a white 4 X 4. There was another older lady who joined her by the motel. Anyways, there were cars all over and both of them got picked up. I think the young girl was one of the finest looking SWs I have seen. I thought I heard the older girl hail the younger one "Michelle".

Being randy, I decided to follow the car with the young girl a few blocks hoping that the guy doesn't have enough change cause she looked expensive. Guess what, the other blue car who picked up the older girl came around, and when I saw the older SW in handcuffs, her hands hanging from the roof hook of the passenger side, that's when I decided to scram. I bet the younger SW got busted also!

Do LEs use civilian license plates? I thought they only used "big" chevy caprice type unmarked cars. Never saw an LE driving a Chevy Cavaliar type model cruising for SWs and busting them? Any opinion?

I wished I had dated this younger girl and was prepaired to offer $$$ if necessary.


The logan square seem to be getting popular again after 6:00 pm in front of the Millshire motel opposite the Megamall as well a little further north Milwaukee by Sawyer/Spaulding. Dawn McB. once warned me to be carefull about a young blond (chubby) named Brandi who hangs out there. She is supposed to be under age. I don't know whether this is true or not, but is no way risking 15 yrs. for a piece of ass. I think I saw her once in front of the McDonald's, looked rather young and pretty good looking.

Be careful out there!

Beaver Hunter
05-17-02, 09:13
Haven't been around in awhile since I moved to NW Indiana. Was on North ave where all the action used to be but haven't seen much tonight. I was there 2 years ago and there seemed to be more sw out then. I still drive out there when I have time. (it's a 30min drive for me) Anybody have #'s of some good sw's? you can email me at scott26641@yahoo.com

Clubking01
05-17-02, 10:47
happygardener and TheDude:

It is interesting how dead the 47th and Cicero action was between the sweep that TheDude saw at 3:00 pm and HG’s pass around 4:00 pm and the activity I saw start to pick up around 4:45-5:00 pm on Wednesday.

As far as camping out in the McDonald’s lot goes, that may not be a bad suggestion. I forgot to relate that around 5:30 pm, I saw both the blonde in the red top and the fat girl standing right next to the McDonald’s lot. In fact, the fat girl actually walked over to a car that had parked on the south end and was talking to the driver for quite a while.

Also, the blonde went across the lot to the north side and got into a Lincoln that was driven by a dark-complected man. He was parked right in the first space on the corner of 47th and Cicero. The car had “Livery” plates. Anyway, she sat and talked with this guy for about 20 minutes. Nothing was going on in the car, it was much too visable.

I made several passes and even pulled into the lot a couple of times. This leads me to believe that under the right conditions and a little luck, there is the possibility of getting SW attention from the McDonald’s lot.

NWBurbGuy
05-17-02, 18:08
Thought I'd finally chime in after lurking for a while.

Was on Manheimm last week. Thought I'd go into Playpen for some innocent grindage from the fashion show girls. As I'm walking in some blond asked me if I like to party, I was actually not expecting it so my initial reaction was - huh? She then asked me for a ride and told me it could be "round trip"

I assumed she meant "leave - fool around - come back". By the time I figured out that wasn't the original idea, we were already at her destination. Turns out she meant for me to drive her to pick up some coke. I made her walk a block to do her business, but stuck around to drive her back. (Hey - I'm ignorant, not mean)

When we got back, she wanted to get a room. So, now I have a coke-head in my car and the shock of the whole ordeal made me lose my rose-colored goggles.

She was in her mid-30s, 5'5", about 100-105, I'd rate 4/10. on a typical s/w scale. Besides, the entire time she was in my car, she was using 2 different cell phones to send text messages.

I decided to pass, and she then wanted money just to get out. She ended up w/ about $2.00 from my toll change and cursed me as I pulled away.

DaYat
05-18-02, 00:22
Hey NWBurbGuy

I've 'dated' girls after they scored and it was either one or the other. Sometimes all they care about is the powder/rock, and other times I've got the sex of my life...repeatedly.

OTOH, it made me so nervous I don't do it anymore...

JohnSmi108
05-18-02, 00:28
Gentleman, be careful on 47th/Cicero tonight. I got there at about 9pm. I saw nothing going south on Cicero towards Archer. Then I headed back north on Cicero and saw about 2 or 3 unmarked Crown Vics light up some guy at the gas station on 50th/Cicero. As I was passing by, I noticed another unmarked Crown Vic pulling out of the gas station with a culry haired brunette, who was sitting by him. I thought it was just another bust.

I circled around to see what was going on at the gas sation. But by the time I got back there, the LE were all gone. I headed back south on Cicero towards Archer and then headed back north on Cicero. This time when I got to 50th/Cicero, I saw the same curly haired brunette I saw 10 minutes earlier standing by some light pole on 50th. She was around 5'7", average build, and was wearing all black including black leather jacket and boots.

It must've been a sting going on. Anyone else see this? Be careful out there and stay safe.

wte_12
05-18-02, 14:23
1st time posting. Read most of the posts, and will continue to read. Has anyone had success with phone personals? Seems like a lot of women on them. Just have to watch out for dudes trying to be girls, can tell most of the time. I dont have a car any suggestions? basically not looking to spend to much money.....like most Im just trying bust a good nut.

ctjohn
05-19-02, 01:17
Can anyone tell how much to pay near Ohare for fs ? Any ripoffs in the phone book ?

Dougie
05-19-02, 17:24
Is there any action on the north side of town, say around West Rogers Park? I would really like to get into some action with the beautiful Indian and/or Pakistani women in that area but do not know if there are any available for "rent".

Rooster
05-19-02, 20:56
ct john...the only full service I was lucky enough to have near O'Hare was AMP in Park Ridge. Sad to say the North Shore Park Ridge folks shut that place down in a hurry. Most of the ads in the Sun Times for O'Hare places get you HJ at best. I hope others can give you better direction.

HappyGardener
05-19-02, 22:40
I will edit this later and fill out the story. I met up with Carmen again this morning. Her Lesbian lover followed us and almost crashed into my car. The Lesbian Lovers husband is a Cook County Sherriff. Carmen met the Lesbian while she was in jail. Carmens ex husband is under house arrest with a electronic bracelet.

Do you think i should see her again?

OCTraveler
05-20-02, 11:57
Hey guys...making a trip to Chicago next week ... need some suggestions (high milage strip clubs or AMP's) for three areas: O'Hare - Calumet City - DuPage. Have made several trips b4 but not much luck...thought I'd ask the local experts!! Thanks in advance.

Clubking01
05-20-02, 12:07
JohnSmi108:

The brunette you describe sounds very much like the one I've seen a couple of times around 50th and Cicero (see earlier posts below). This girl was quite good looking, with curly hair, and dressed similiar to how you have described.

She may or may not be part of a sting. The first time I saw her though (last month), she was getting in and out of a truck cab. She got in the cab in the Walgreen's lot and by the time I went around the block, she was getting out. It appeared that they couldn't reach a financial settlement. No LE ever showed up however.

The second time (last week) she was walking northbound with another girl.

If this in fact is the same girl, then it sounds wise to steer clear until we know that she's not LE too. And maybe it's lucky that I failed to hook up as well!

I hope to be in the area tomorrow (Tuesday) around rush hour and will report.

Clubking01

Lady
05-20-02, 13:34
HappyG, you dont need that stress , I would never bring my personal problems to work , If you were pesonaly involved with her that would be different, but its her job as a pro to make sure that you are never in danger or stressed, you should be able to be relaxed . Thats some bullshit...I,ve had my share of problems when in the game but I left my bullshit at home, smiled and put on a brave face.Besides its your dime , these people are not friends otherwise you would be involved with each other more and you would be able to trust them, with money ,etc....Like you can with real friends , Shame on her putting you through that for a few bucks...what an amatuer .Happy hunting Lady

Hoehoehoe
05-20-02, 16:45
I was in the 47th & Cicero area at about 2PM today and there was some action going on. The previously noted young (from afar) blonde with the team jacket was in the Dunkin Donuts lot with some Hispanic looking guy in a big oversized jacket with letters down the sleeves, yellow hood. They appeared to be in partnership, not a customer relationship. Girl looked a little scary at closer hand.

Another bovine thing walking East along 47th. It did not moo-ve me to want to do anything.

Another whitish (hair) blonde girl in a parka making calls out of the pay phone of the service station just north of 47th on Cicero. Looked good. Disappeared quickly.

Some women in the better you than me category strolled thru the McDonalds lot. Hard to finish that cheeseburger after they went by. I'd say a connection would certainly be achievable, if you wanted to.

Lady
05-20-02, 19:27
Whats with these sw walking with their pimps ? I see it all the time...these guys give these girls a false sense of security, then take their money/drugs once a sw gets in a ride its up to her to protect herself, unless the pimp gets in the car too.plus its tacky these girls would probably get more business without their doped up latest fuck hanging around. Thats how they rationalize getting half the girls dope,,they say hey baby I stood on that corner with you too,its disgusting . and for the ones by theirselves they usually have some black guy waiting/parked right around the corner waiting for her to catch so he can run her straight to the dope spot. You usually spot them on a side street parked the next block over . oh well thats my rant...I have a question I used to know a girl named Bridgette mulatto looking very short dyed blond hair she used to work pulaski/grand area or pulaski north ave, she ended up robbing a guy I knew, she was a dopefiend anyone ever seen her ?Also I saw the two girls by McDonalds on 47th/cicero if the look to good they are probably LE although I do like it when a girl puts some effort into her wardrobe but it seems that these girls today just dont take the time to buy the accesories high heeled shoes/hair/makeup/dreses .if they did they wouldnt have to be out there to long they would have repeat business.Well stay safe.Lady

Mario_Kaliente
05-20-02, 22:10
Hey guys! Long time reader, first time posting.

I drove by Midway area today, around 6:00 p.m. There was a ton of action! Going south on Cicero, I stopped at the Marathon gas station on Cicero & 50th, there were two girls working in the corner of the gas station, a blonde and a brunette. The blonde was a knockout! The best sw I've ever seen, she was wearing tight beige pants and a thin jacket, the brunette was a 6 and was wearing jeans, a lot of cars stopping but I think they were working together, because after talking to a few guys in different cars, they both ended up getting in one car.

Cicero & 49th, one block west of Cicero, there were 3 girls, a thin polish girl, looked young, late teens, early twenties, very good looking wearing a mini skirt, an 8, there was a brunette, hispanic looking, with curly hair to her shoulders ( i think several people have posted about her here) and there was a black sw, in traditional garb, a 3 in my book.

Cicero & 48th, there was a white girl on the bus stopped wasn't sure if she was working, when I came back around, she was walking south on cicero and game me the look and waived, she was decent looking a 7.

And on 47th and Cicero, just off the McDonald's parking lot, there was another white girl, a 6 wearing jeans and a red jacket....

I went around the area a couple of times, and most of them were gone..... I haven't seen this much action in a long time, did anyone else see/"rent" any of them, I didn't have that much time and didn't stop.... dind't notice any LE, around, but it's unsual to see all these nice girls around....


Also, last thursday, about 8:30 p.m., I decided to take a drive by 63rd and Harlem, goint west on 63rd past harlem, I picked up a good looking hispanic girl, 5'5'' 115 lbs., very nice, didn't have a number, says that she usually is out there on thursday's and friday's at about that time, here name is Olga, gave good BBBJ for $20, gave her a @10 tip...


Well, guys, now that I have more time to devote to his hobby of ours, I'll be posting more often.

Hope this helps, and stay Safe.

Mario

Chester, do you have any info on Asian working girls? If you do, email me at Mario_Kaliente@hotmail.com

JohnnyBeBad
05-21-02, 09:33
Mario-I'm glad someone besides me has found 63rd St.between Harlem and Archer a good safe place to get some cheap head.I have gotten many a great bbbj there and not much LE around.

Devlin
05-21-02, 10:23
Hey dudes, it has been awhile since my last post (cash problems) but do i SMELL bacon. i know and have posted numerous times about the Midway area. The regulars are : Barb- 5'7", wavy hair brunette, slender and is spanish/irish ; Nina- short, chunky brunette (wears wig) and has killer blue eyes; Iris- 5'7" , thin and has very very long blonde hair; a new gal don't remember her name but she's older about 5'6" slender, auburn hair always pulled back. they all speak french well. language lessons should cost $30-$50. DON'T PAY MORE! LE does cruise, park and use decoys near the side streets. USE CAUTION! don't let the little head think for the big one. also, 63rd street near Harlem Ave is known for using decoys. Vice nites are thursday and Sunday. Play safe and happy hunting

Devlin
05-21-02, 10:44
The best time for the hunt on Cicero Ave from 47th to Archer Ave is during morning and evening rush hours. Traffic does suck (Big Time) because of all the construction near Midway Airport. The city and state is spending alot of cash developing the airport, they're not going to let sw action F*** It up for the vacation and business traveler.

JohnSmi108
05-21-02, 18:01
Clubking01, from what I saw, the scene looked like another guy getting busted. But it just seemed weird that the "busted" girl would be sitting next to the undercover cop in his unmarked car on the way out of the gas station. And then for her to be back on the corner 15 minutes later seemed very suspicious. Better to be safe than sorry.

Lady
05-21-02, 22:38
Chester, Dont stop your writing I for one throughly enjoy your posts...That moron is only going on what some sw told him so she could get more $$$ from him, The fact is there are pimps and no not all the money is in drugs for these guys the average pimp/crackhead of today is to doped out to sell ANY DRUGS !!!!as he would smoke up all of his profits and then end up in the hole...you know its much easier for the black/crack addicted male to find a girl that has a habit like him and get high from her money...now mind you these arent the pimps of old with fancy cars diamond rings etc...these are unemployed black men with shitbox rides they dress bad smell even worse but they provide a service to these sw and its not protection because thats a joke !!! they have no problem with taking the sw money and go into say a drug infested black neighborhood and buy drugs for her...why doesnt she do this herself???because a white or hispanic girl in an all black hood would get hassled maybe robbed etc...because all the black drug dealers will treat her and any other white people copping dope in that hood like a piece of shit they might even say she has no backup lets rob her....but they would think of robbing dopefiend Willie/the black pimp because they grew up with him and his ***** is buying them new gym shoes....so that the real truth this guy is so misinformed Drugs put a blackeye in the pimp/sw game and these "pimps" can even afford a bar of soap let alone a nice cadillac...but a pimp is a pimp/crackhead gone are the days of pimps who never used and had top notch stables with good sw who lived a good life if you ever seen where some of these sw live you would know they are not putting their money into their homes or hygenine for their 20 bucks go towards 2 rocks one for them and one for their pimp/boyfriend/drug runner this guy should have checked around the corner maybe then he would find his brain and probably the pimp who stole it trying to sell it for a rock...lol Love your posts dont stopwriting Chester you are a PH.D of the street and the hunt and everyone is entitled to their opinion, no matter. Take it easy happy hunting,Lady p.s this guy has been Tricked..hhhhhhmmmmm..so thats where that name came from....lol

Mario_Kaliente
05-22-02, 00:48
Chester, you 'da man! don't pay attention to that loser.... We all enjoy your posts and your info has come in handy many, many times.

Devlin & Johnnybebad, do you guys know of any other hot areas/bars/clubs in the south suburbs?

I use to cruise around Chicago Heights, but I haven't been around there in a while...

I sometimes cruise 47th south to Kedzie, then Kedzie south to 63th, not much action lately...

You guys can always email me at Mario_Kaliente@hotmail.com

Happy hunting and be safe....

JohnnyBeBad
05-22-02, 09:12
south side-chicago heights still has activity,but not like it used to be.rt.30 from around halsted to wentworth are mostly black sw's and you can get head here for 15-20.chicago rd.from around 16th to 26th more white girls,some black 20-25.also harvey up and down 154th around wood st.is another area,almost all black girls,with 20 the going rate.more black sws in robbins usually on 135th around kedzie.some white.but not a whole lot in this area.you all ready know about summit.haven't gotten out to cal city in a quite a while,but a friend of mine told me there are still girls working state line rd.although not as heavily in the past.night before last i was out on mannheim rd.between 6:30-8pm and didn't see one girl.as far as pimps,while there are some still around,it isn't like the old days when they were all over.crack cocaine became the new pimp.

Devlin
05-22-02, 12:05
Chester, please ignore the fool. you wrote a very helpful and informative piece for the Great Reports (chicago) section. i recommend for all newbies to read it. WSG is as popular as it is because of YOUR report and posts. my friend, you are Da Man.

mikie
05-22-02, 14:25
I went out last night along north ave driving my van. It seems these girls do not want to get in to a van. In fact one told me so. So i guess when searching for a lady of the night do not search while in a van. I never knew.

Skunkbrother
05-22-02, 15:47
I was driving down Roosevelt through Hillside at about 10:00 this morning and as I was driving by the Hillside Motel I saw about 4 cop cars in the parking lot and the cops leading out 3 very nice looking scantily clad girls in cuffs.



As to the pimp situation that Chester talked about I have seen about 5 pimps this month traveling around with girls in their cars. 2 of which I saw this past saturday morning dropping girls off on Honore off of North and then again on Wabansia. All of the girls were black.

I came to my own conclusions about black sw's about 5 years ago after twice getting ripped off and I'm sure there are probably about thousand more guys out there who can say the same thing.



Hey Chester, check your mail when you get a chance.

OCTraveler
05-22-02, 17:16
Hey...thought I'd try this request again...making a trip to Chicago next week ... need some suggestions (high milage strip clubs or AMP's) for three areas: O'Hare - Calumet City - DuPage. Have made several trips b4 but not much luck...thought I'd ask the local experts!! Thanks in advance.

Slim
05-22-02, 18:16
Your milage at the clubs largely depends on the dancer, they pretty much all set their own rules. I get the best milage from the black girls.

Last month when I was in Chicago I had some luck at Club O in Harvey (close to Calumet City).

The first dance I had was so, so from a cute blond.

The next dance I had was from a light skinned black girl. I didn't catch her name, but she should be easy to spot, she was cute, very skinny and young looking with a ring in her left eyebrow. Very classy, we talked for a while and she made me ask for a dance which I thought was nice.

This girl rocked my world. We did three songs ($60) and she actually got me off with my pants on, which has never happened to me in a lap dance before. Needless to say, I had to leave after this dance;-)

It was a little strange because their lap dance 'pit' is such that there is zero privacy and the bouncer is always looking in.

Club O is a little more upscale than say Industrial Strip where they have private lap dances but the place is a dive and the girls are hit and miss.

You get the best milage at these two clubs from my meager experience.

Antonio
05-22-02, 22:19
OCTraveler: Just across the border from Calumet City is E. Chicago, which has a long-established AMP with a solid reputation (I'm a regular myself) for FS. There are always 4 girls, almost invariably Korean, so-so command of English--generally attractive and friendly. Service includes scrub-down shower, massage, covered BJ, and main course. Fee is $180-200 for 50-60 minutes. The name of the place is Peking Spa, located just off Chicago Ave. in E. Chicago, opposite the DelRay Supermarket on a little side street (Magoun, I think). Best time to go is daytime, both on account of the neighborhood and because the service will be less rushed. Go to the Indiana page/NW Ind. of this web site for more particulars.

Lady
05-23-02, 10:21
About 9:00am I was heading east on archer right at cicero and saw a cute sw about 19 {looks younger ] long dirty blond hair parted inthe middle mini skirt standing near the hotel on the right right next to her was an older short black girl who was watching her, apparently her pimp doesnt trust her to be outside on her own she was cute but the black chick was ugly, looked like a pitbull, but thats her purpose I guess. Even though I dont pick up sw I still notice them so thats my report, She still seemed kinda fresh so you guys may enjoy???take care and be safe. Lady

Antonio
05-23-02, 12:01
Hey Chester, Viewing your 1997 report brings to mind a SW I used to see fairly often in the area between Irving & Foster on Broadway & Sheridan. She went by "Star" and another name I've forgotten, but she was really terrific: the best BBBJ I've ever had (including the final gulp-down to avoid any untidy mess), and a great romp in the sack (liked DFK) whenever we got a room--and this assessment comes from someone who cruised that area for 20 years and been serviced by 1,500+ women from all over the world. She was white, in her late 20s, brown hair, 5'2", kind of large round head, but with a nicely proportioned body, medium build. Seemed to be a drug addict, but also claimed to be attending a jr. college in DuPage and said she had an aunt from whom she expected a substantial inheritance. She was so good that even after she stole a camera from me that was lying around my bedroom, I still dated her (though never again at my place). Remember her? Any update on her "life?"

TheDude
05-23-02, 12:39
Can anyone post a good cruising route around Mid-Way Area...47th, Archer, Kedzie, etc. I thought I read it some time ago, but cannot find it now.

As for the North Avenue Scene, I think going west on North Avenue until California, then go North till Armitage then turn left going west until Cicero then down south on Cicero until Roosevelt (Cicero has heavy construction) during Lunch-time and after 3:30 PM always has a few white SWs... sometimes even new faces.

Chester,
Keep up the good work. We need you!

By the way, do you know if they tow your car around Mid-Way area for picking up SWs? How much is the fine? Also, which nights are vice-nights?

Do you have the phone number for the hot SW called Monet that you picked up? Please email it to borobudor@yahoo.com.

Thanks!

Devlin
05-23-02, 13:27
TheDude, a good route would be 47th street from Western ave to Cicero and Cicero avenue from 47th street to Archer ave (please reread my 5/21/02 post). On 47th street from California ave to Archer there is a regular sw named Wendy. she's about 5'1" shoulder length straight brown hair (dyed blonde), avg build, green eyes and buck toothed, AVOID her because she is a Major crackhead and thief. play safe and happy hunting

Devlin
05-24-02, 10:13
Hey dudes, if u go to the Chicago Police Dept home page then click on.. about CPD, you'll find were some current vice arrest have taken place. It seems LE has been busy on 47th & Keating in the Midway Airport area. i hope this info helps. play safe, happy hunting

Skunkbrother
05-24-02, 22:00
I had a 5:30 pm arrival into midway this evening so I thought I would use the opportunity to check out the action at that time of day.I made a pass up Cicero and then went east on 50th to kedzie north and then headed west to cicero on 47th......all to no avail. As reported on here before, the traffic is so terrible at this time of day I think that even if I would have seen anyone worth picking up it would have taken a half hour just to circle back.
So I headed north on Cicero to Roosevelt on the chance of finding Mary, and lo and behold there she was at around 7:00 in her usual area. She told me that she is staying out later now that the days are getting longer. She said she packs it in at dusk and is never out when it is dark.


Stay safe guys.

NoBull
05-25-02, 02:49
Message to 'Chester' and 'Lady' - FUCKOFF
To 'Devlin' and 'Mario_Kaliente' - get a life, losers.

I'm the guy who posted the much-needed rebuttal to Chester's report.

Holy shit. It's a good thing I checked the Chicago forum. I've stopped reading this one, since it's usually a waste of time - mostly the usual complaints about ripoff clubs and parlors, police stings, and the lack of good SW's, with the occasional racist comment thrown in.
I monitor the foreign WSG reports more. These days I mostly wait until my next overseas trip for action. After getting off in a foreign country, Chicago, and the whole U.S., is a joke. You guys are really leading lives of depravation here.

To Chester: The most disturbing thing about the reaction to my rebuttal is this: the only thing removed from your report was the 'N-word'. The rest was untouched. What are you and the other jerkoffs complaining about? That word has nothing to do with SW locations. If you all love to see that word so much, spray paint it on your bedroom walls. Get it tattooed on your asses. I don't want to see it, and probably thousands of others don't, either.

I said that the rest of your report was allright, though out of date. I mostly objected to the race bullshit section, which had no value as far as this website is concerned. That 'day in the life of a black hooker' section was stereotyped, fictional crap. This is not amateurfiction.com, nor is it one of those crazy white supremacist sites. (And to 'Lady' - get some help. You need a psychiatrist. That rambling, delusional racist fantasy you posted on May 22 - was that a dream? A hallucination?)

Chester, even in your enraged complaint post of May 22 you can't get the information right.
I didn't say 'pimps don't exist' - you misquoted me. More of your false information. What I said was: '...99% of the girls are freelance'. Maybe I should be more accurate. Actually, about 96% of the girls I've known were freelance. That's a fact.
You claimed that 'most of the black street girls have pimps' - that's bullshit.

Chester, you tried to explain: "...As for my use of the "N" word, it was in context to pointing out the difference between two types of people..." Two types of people? What people? Are you a sociologist, too?

'Chester' and 'Lady', listen up: your whacked-out stories about the lives of black people have no place here. In order to be an authority on the lives of black Chicago residents, you have to be one of two things. Either -
1) A black Chicagoan yourself, or
2) A historian or anthropologist, specializing in the field, with several years of research behind you. You don't qualify.

It's unfortunate that anyone can dream up a bunch of negative stories, type them, hit the 'Enter' key, and present them to the world as fact. It's one of the weaknesses of the Internet.
Chester, you said you 'worked hard on that report'. Well, even great writers have editors. Get one.

I did agree with you about black hookers on the Northside. The few black women on North Ave. and Armitage are bullshit. The ones I encountered didn't have pimps, and didn't try to steal, but they were a negative experience.

Fact is, Chicago has plenty of working girls. They are in areas never talked about on this site, in forgotten corners of the Southside and Westside. You said '...I'm not sure where he's finding his dates...' You're damn right 'you're not sure.' You have no idea. And they're not 'wasted crack heads'. I pass those up, until I find a stacked, healthy-looking, clean, 'ghetto' girl, who happens to need money real bad, and who is looking to do a quick 'date', but doesn't work the street regularly. And I never ask 'how much' - I say "I have $15...I have $10..." That's the way it's done. I've even done that on North and on Armitage, except that I quoted a higher number. I don't bother with the white girls anymore, the black ones are better, when you know how to select them. With the 'part time' black girls, often you never see the same one working the street again, ever. The 'trick dating' is a rare event for them.

The locations are real. The prices are real. The only significant costs are gas, wear-and-tear on the car, and time. It does take time to find the good, working 'sistas'. And don't get started on the 'crime' stereotype. There are plenty of black neighborhoods that are not dangerous, for any race. But don't get me wrong - I really don't care if you find out about it or not. I just want to set the record straight.

While you are all chasing after the same group of frazzled, used-up white girls in the North-Armitage-Cicero area while ducking the police - I'll be getting an unhurried, unload-in-the-mouth BBBJ for $12 in some quite corner of the Southside from a 'sista'.
While you are all getting ripped off in a Chicago strip club or massage parlor, or cheated by an escort - I'll be in some foreign country waking up with a centerfold model.

To the other readers:

I'll leave it up to you. Would you like to have the facts on black SW's in the Chicago area? If so, I'll write my own report. But if you'd rather have stereotypes, myths, lies, presuppositions, fantasies, and bigoted bullshit, I'll leave you to read the other guys.

And to Jackson: don't delete this if they complain. I just needed to respond to their criticisms and lies. I won't get into a prolonged flame war with these bozos. You did the right thing to make that minor edit. It's in your rules, anyway - No Race-Baiting.

NoBull
05-25-02, 06:37
Chester -

Wrong. I'm self-employed. And I make a lot of money. And it's legal, by the way, so don't go into that stereotype.
And back when I was in the 9-5 world, I was never hired to fill a 'quota'. That's a racist assumption. I was always the most intelligent and competent person in the joint, white or black. I was usually called in to fix the white boys' mistakes. And I don't have 'a little bit of knowlege' - I have a lot. You couldn't imagine how much.
Most workplaces don't have quotas, anyway. Quotas are mostly for government jobs other workplaces that receive public funding, because blacks pay taxes, too, and there was a time when blacks were shut out of even government jobs. But enough of that.

So you're 'not white' - but that doesn't give you honorary black status. You can't use the 'N' word without it having negative effect. And it has meant various things, down through history. It already has a meaning - YOU can't hop up and assign it a new one. Of course I know certain black people call each other that word in a certain context and at certain times. Even those blacks who use it, only use it with certain black people they know, in a certain way. The unspoken rules of the proper use of that word among blacks is very complex, and most non-blacks will never understand (because they don't want to do the work to understand a complex culture, they just want to rely on stereotypes.)
The #1 rule is this: non-blacks can't use the 'N' word in front of blacks. There are some exceptions. A few whites who live in black areas, among black people, and who talk, walk and basically live the urban black lifestyle are allowed to use it - among their friends. They know when and how to say it.

I don't care how many rappers use the word - y'all better not say it!

I know a white woman who has lived in a black Southside area for years. (She gives deep throat for $20, probably the best technique in America.) She has lived the urban black lifestyle, as well as the working-class white lifestyle. She can 'talk black' as well as sound white. Once we were riding around her neighborhood, and she used the 'N' word in front of me, referring to some people she knew. But I didn't flinch. She knew the right context in which to use it, and she had lived the life.
By the way, she doesn't work the street, I know her number. And you're wrong again - I am willing to share information - I have posted to the foreign columns many times, under a different name, before registration was needed. If there was a way to get her some additional clients without the damned LE finding out, I would.

And to clarify the pimp deal - 96% of the girls I've been with were freelance. No pimps. I've counted - over 200 different ones, over approx. 14 years. About eight out of 200 had a pimp visible, or mentioned one. That's about 96%, right? And I don't bullshit.
Don't dwell on the pimp myth. Most of those girls are driven by a drug habit, that's the real pimp. Especially when crack came along. However, many of the black girls are driven by poverty - it's not always dope. They don't always try to hide it. That's why you can get find relatively clean, healthy black women here at Third World prices. Many blacks are in the economic underclass, almost like the residents of developing countries.

By the way, white hookers are actually less desirable for this reason. Because of their higher position in society, a white girl in America has to fall a longer way down to end up on the street. In fact, a white girl on the street is 'at the end'. Another negative is this: white SW's are in such demand, especially in Chicago, that they get about 10 times as many 'dates' as a comparable black SW. You know how fast a white SW disappears when she hits the street. They make much more money, buy more dope, use more dope, handle more dicks, are less clean, get used up faster, get arrested more, harrased by LE more (the Chicago LE don't like white girls seen on the streets - they care less for the black ones, in black 'hoods.) I've known plenty of them as well, and not just as a customer. The guys on this board are always looking for the white girls. Keep doing it. You can have them.

Sure, I know that some of the ghetto girls are looking to score. Do you give out drug tests on Armitage, Chester? Do you demand that all your hookers be drug-free? Why are you mentioning it?
You simply select the part time users from the total addicts. The ones who look like they don't belong on the street. A 'regular' girl (who likes to party) can be a crack hoe for a weekend, then straighten up by midweek, swearing off the stuff. But while she's out there, you're getting high quality stuff for the price of a 'rock'.

And sometimes it's not drugs - maybe their asshole boyfriend went upside their head, and they ran outdoors to get away, and they need the price of a cheap hotel. Maybe they were put out.

Here's a some locations -

The other day, at 57th and Prairie, I saw a shapely, busty woman walking along without a jacket, on a cold night, around 9 p.m. She had just had a fight with her sister, and stormed out. If I had had the time, I could've rented a room and did her all night. We made it in the car. I offered $15, and she said 'sure' so enthusiastically that I knew she would have taken less. Prairie in the 40's and 50's has SW's, but you have to know the selection process. More later.

Once, at Madison and Ashland, a tall black girl, mid 20's, fine body, clear complexion, nice personality. Said she was 'homeless', stayed at different friends' house every night, but needed to give them a few dollars each time. $12.

There are many other places. I will have to elaborate when I have the time.

Another thing you said. I'm not exactly 'pathetic' like some of you may consider yourselves. I go with hookers as a form of recreation, and because of the variety. I still get 'regular' girlfriends when I want to.

Oh, and you said you're from an 'underprivileged minority'. The 'minority' label is a sham. In the racial pecking order, blacks are in a class by themselves. The other 'minorities' get a free pass as long as they learn the language. They are allowed to assimilate into the mainstream - most blacks are not, even though they built the economic foundation of this country, while the other 'minorities' were still back in their home countries.

And if you had posted your email on the original report, maybe I would have contacted you first.

Member #4242
05-25-02, 09:26
Now that I have read both sides, both of you make some very valid points and certainly many many thanks to Chester for great contributions.

I see the point "NoBull" made about N word being offensive and he has a right to do that. Similarly I am against censorship in general (just as chester is), but as a member of this board, I have to abide by rules I signed up to to when I registered - yes the rules set up by Jackson. since Jackson's board is not funded by any government agencies, he can set the rules the way he wants (provide they do not violate terms of law).

Rereading the rules under the registration section, I see jackson wants no Racist comments here - so is the N word a racist word? By conventional wisdom, the answer is "Yes it is".

So I have to agree more with NoBull than with Chester. While some broad assumptions were made by some people and others chose not to make such assumptions, hey we are all humans and make mistakes and have right to opinions (but need to follow the rules we signed up to wehn we registered).

Peace brothers, while I have not contributed (I am a rookie learning the ropes), I enjoy posts from Chester, Devlin, Skunkbrother etc and needless to say that I have gathered some streetsmarts and wisdom from this board.

Desi

Lady
05-25-02, 11:42
As a sw that has 19 years experience in the biz I am more than qualified to report , Nobull it sounds so much better that you are picking up some poor impoverished black girl whos out hustling for food that the real truth of the matter that you picked up another major crackhead so you delude yourself because then it makes it seem that you have picked up a better sw.....yeah okay and if you honestly believe that well thats your fantasy honey!!! But unless you spend 24 hrs with these sw you dont know whats in their closets unless you have woken up and spent say a whole week with one of them instead of the 15 min that shes trying to get a rock off your cock then you dont know jack , how soon after you have spurted in that crackheads mouth do you actually spend some time with her ? I,ll bet they are spending your money at the dope spot with in ten min after leaving you, You delusional idiot !!!And nobody is qualified expert on when to use the n word...the question is "Can you kick my ass ?" if not black or white someone may use the n word to your face !!!! If you dont like seeing it then stay out of the forum its your choice ! And nobody gives a rats ass what your status or education is especially on the street, you talk about white girls that use the n word who live a black lifestyle .....thats a joke they are Wiggers and wannabees that all black people laugh at and no self respecting white person would have, they are ashamed of their own race so they ridiculously pretend to be something they are obviously not , If you like black girls thats your bag , but every one here already knows that Chester knows the real deal on the streets , not you with your delusions that you,ve made up to make your self feel better about who you are, which is another trick that has paid another crackhead who in turn buys dope dealer Willie another pair of gym shoes . No your the helpful trick thats buying groceries for some poor impoverished black girl and feeds her family...yeah right...joining unicef would accomplish that not getting your dick sucked in some alley by a crackhead. Also if you are baiting me by the chance that I verbally humiliate you, then I strongly suggest you go and have your self a domination session by a qualified Mistress who know just what to do with you. Happy Hunting and you go right on helping those girls eat, Gee your a saint of all tricks !!LOL , Stay safe guys Lady

Oddjob
05-25-02, 13:18
We should probably not even respond to Nobull since it is obvious that he doesn't know what or for whom he speaks. He probably gets his rocks off fomenting problems and has never had the balls to hit the streets.

Lady and Chester are the ultimate authorities here.

Himes
05-25-02, 14:06
May I suggest a little light reading:

http://www.impactresearch.org/documents/39.pdf

BigTimeLoser
05-25-02, 14:39
Damn!

What the hell has been going on here in the past week?? NoBull, your posts are the most blatant waste of bytes on a web server that I have ever seen. Change your handle and post some useful information...like the locations/numbers of some of these part-time drug-using, pimp-free ****** that you date.
Ok..on to last night's results. Well, more like lack of. It really sucked last night from 1am until 4am. There was some heavy blonde working wabansia/hermitage wearing a tight skirt. She was out for a few hours...but she was not attractive at all. There were a lot of black sws too...but the few cute ones all got picked up quickly. 2 scraggly black sws were all that I saw on north between damen and western. I did see one very hot, slender blonde hanging around a doorway for about 3-5 minutes, but she was gone before I could get her attention.
I'll go out again in the next few days--maybe go up to broadway/wilson too.
Enjoy!

WillySP
05-25-02, 16:15
I haven't posted here before but have been reading the posts for awhile. I was in the Midway area yesterday afternoon and saw no one out.
In reading some of the recent posts I will add my two cents. My thanks to Chester for the report. In the last few years I have lived in Chicago I have been able to use the report to hunt and find sw's. As I am able to travel on my job more during the day I hope to be able to contribute more to the board, which is a great source of information.
Again hats off to Chester for taking the time to compile the report and provide regular updates !

Bammbamm
05-25-02, 18:13
I really think the retoric should be taken off line and debate each other via Email, Chester's info is still a good reference in a lot of ways. Beyond that, NB's slamming of the Chicago scene is irrelevant, we know what the situation is here, we're making due with what we have, plain and simple.
Thats all from me...

Bamm

NoBull
05-25-02, 18:29
I'll keep it short:

To 'Lady': so you're a sw with 19 years experience? Which drug did you use the most, cocaine or smack? Alcohol too?
You have brain damage, ma'am. That explains your confused, disjointed writing.
I have spent time with some of the girls, those that acted halfway human. I even helped one get into rehab. Don't generalize. Not all the girls live the desperate lifstyles you describe and fabricate. And you keep bringing up the race angle, more than anyone else.

To 'Oddjob' - You're talking shit. Everything I write is absolute truth, dude.

To 'BigTimeLoser' - I DID post some locations. Read more carefully. I am considering posting others, but I don't know if you fuckers are worth the trouble.

Lady
05-25-02, 20:00
I believe in posting the truth and like to be descriptive black is black and white is white , I,m sure you have spent your whole life trying to avoid being treated like the sterotypical black guy,Your the only one taking it so personal so you have the problem but dont be so angry nobody here cares what color anybody is if they happen to be black white or whatever its all about the hunt. Not race . Everyone has their preferences , But sw just like it green ,In all my years I have never met one sw that wasnt on drugs with the exception of myself thats why the sw you mess with are homeless because they take your money and split it with their black/crack addicted mates, buy Drugs and cant afford a home.This could be a very profitable business for someone not addicted any girl who isnt on drugs would have enough money to live a quite lavish lifestyle, believe me I know and make more money than you have ever seen . I have spent time in the personal lives of alot of these girls, something you will NEVER EVER see because you are an OUTSIDER to them, a trick ,the enemy, They sit a laugh at delusional tricks like you because you actually believe the line of shit. They and their pimps just love a trick like you.But have more respect for the ones that know the real deal and take care of their business and go .And you talk about desperate lifestyles honey taking someone to rehab sounds pretty desperate to me! Can you talk black and white too ? Like your pathetic friend another person so insecure that she actually has to change her voice to fit the situation, put that on your resume its a marvelous talent! I love your use of the word dude too, thats mighty white of you ,With respect to Jackson I wont call you what you really are and even if I did it all boils down to "Can you kick my ass"?I doubt it, I hope we can all get back to the posts and the real subject here and be descriptive if their black or white, Take your censorship to congress!! And the majority has already spoken you lose, Stay Safe and happy hunting guys Lady

The_Truth
05-25-02, 20:20
Chester and Lady I agree with you 2 100%. No Bull your education is probually from the street. If it was actually from a university you should ask for a refund.

Rooster
05-26-02, 03:47
I was out and about the North Ave area today. Very frustraing as I was almost hit 3 times by cars that were ducking in and out of alleys! I am hoping this is a result of the holiday weekend and not a normal weekend occurance. I may have to stick with middle of week hunts. Anyway, not much to look at between 10:00 pm and midnight. I have read postings of sw on Irving Park by the old mental health hospital. Can anyone tell me me what block that is around? I was too busy watching the road and avoiding the construcion barriers to look for landmarks.

Thanks.
Be safe and happy hunting

HappyGardener
05-27-02, 01:36
Wow.

I went away for a week and didn't have time to read WSG and all the fun happens while I am gone. In my other life (y'know, the hard working husband life) I belong to an internet mailing list that has topics related to my profession. I joined it because I was trying to keep up on new technologies. Too soon dominant personalites arose and personal attacks started to happen frequently. I recently unsubscribed because I was tired of this repeated sniping and flaming. I was really hoping it wouldn't happen here on my recreational board. Sigh.

You are right NoBull. Just because I can type and have a dial-up, I can add my .02. But I use the medium, for which it was intended...to share info. Not to hurt people with unneccesary and vindictive postings. So in that spirit, e-mail me the # of the girl that gives the great BJ. I am all for helping girls out who need an extra couple of bucks. threeinches86@hotmail.com.

NoBull was right about one other thing. there are girls out there just under our noses. I always try to make eye contact with girls "waitng" for buses. 3 times I have picked girls up, given thema ride and gotten head in the process.

Wells St. south of Division used to be a good spot to pick up girls who were trying to stretch their welfare checks to the end of the month. Now that the Cabrini-Greene Neighborhood has been destroyed, you don't see as many girls.

I have picked up girls on Ashland, Irving Park, Lawerence, etc, etc, just by making eye contact, and asking if they needed a ride. But these only rarely happen.

In the interest of full disclosure: I am a mid 40's MWM who has lived in on the North side for 20 years. I am self-employed in a technical field, have a college degree, and vote Democratic. I suffer from White Liberal Guilt so I too sometimes delude myself that I am helping a girl out by dating her. Read my postings about the elusive Carmen.

Chester & Lady: You both raised valid points. You both are street veterans with a past history of posting, so we feel we "know" you. thanks for all that you have added to the board. Now shake it off and get back in there!!

HappyGardener
05-27-02, 01:41
Oh, forgot why I logged on.

North, Cicero, Armitage all dead from 8 to 10 pm on Sundat nighht. Lots of LE.

WIFE GOING OUT OF TOWN THIS WEEK. HAVE HOUSE TO MYSELF AFTER THURSDAY FOR 5 DAYS.

I have to paint the kitchen, while she is gone, but am looking for suggestions on girls to invite over, bars to go to, places to get into trouble... Or if you want to paint my kitchen, I will let you use my spare bedroom with a girl you bring over...

Easy Rider
05-27-02, 15:00
wow. What a bunch of sad and expensive experiences on this board. You Chicago boys need to jump on a Continental plane and fly down to Brownsville, Texas. Then ask any cab to take you to Paradise Men's Club across the river in Matamoros, Mexcio. You don't believe me go check out Matamoros Mexico on these message boards.

Sounds like chicago is getting too tough.

Life doesn't have to be so difficult. And you don't have to fly half way around the world to have a great sex vacation. Bangcock ain't got nothin on the girls of Matamoros....haha. It takes too damn long to go that far.

Azil
05-27-02, 21:25
Like Happygardner, I've been travelling (Arizona), and missed the recent fun.

NoBull, I agree with you on the distastefulness of the N word -- never use it and hate to see it used. But other than that, I haven't seen much of value from you. You indicated that you had special locations, but the two you mentioned, Madison and Prairie, are old news. I cruise Prairie regularly and have posted here about my experiences there. Never paid less than $20, but never tried to -- that's little enough. Madison has been mentioned regularly here as well.

I agree that a fair number of the girls on Prairie probably don't have pimps -- it's more of an amateur stroll and a lot of the girls you see once and never again. On Madison, most of them do have pimps -- you can see the guy standing twenty yards from her (or across the street) keeping an eye on her.
Easyrider -- I agree that border towns are a lot of fun, but when I lived in Texas I thought Laredo had Matamoros beat cold (for that matter, I thought Piedras Negras beat Matamoros). I was in Nogales Saturday, but was with people, so couldn't indulge the hobby. Broke my heart to be in a border town and not able to have a little fun. I was in TJ a couple months ago and it was wonderful.

TheDude
05-28-02, 14:37
Guys and Lady,

You all have valid points, and seems to really care. And to quote Rodney Dangerfield "...of what I have no idea...", especiall since this is a board for helping each other out on how and where to get some fresh pussies. I need information... not a lesson on ethics.

My apologies if I have offended anyone, but please let's get back to the locations and experiences. I think it's getting more and more difficult finding fresh pinks or I am doing something very wrong. Please advise!

Saw Mary on Roosevelt on 24th in a black leather jacket. Told her I will be right back, and I guess one of you guys beat me to her.

Chester, do you have a phone number for Monet? Your help and comments are very enlightening.

Saw Peaches (19 years old - see midnight chicago for her picture) in front of Millshire by Logan Square again last week. She did a great FS for $50 and a McDonald meal.

Take caution and good luck!

Orangecrush
05-28-02, 15:52
As I was always told "you don't have to be black to be a "n - word"". Anyway, Chester's reports and comments have been very helpful (with the exception to the one major item that confuses me to this day - I always thought Diversey ran parallel to Addison, so I still can't find that location). The "original" report is dated, but it would be nearly impossible to udpate that regularly, that is why there is this forum. Anyway, I back Chester completely. You must remember the WSG was a completely different animal 5 years ago. Remember what North Avenue used to look like back then? Now they have a Starbucks for christ sake.

Anyway, has anyone encountered a SW named "Celeste" on North Avenue? I was driving west about 2 weeks ago and it started to pour. I pulled over when this thin latina (about 25-30) was running down the street. She came up to the window and asked for a lift. I told her to get in and we chit chat for a few minutes while she's giving me directions to her place. We get there she says thanks and hops out. Query: Was she dating? She never mentioned anything about it, but was bold coming up to the car like that.

Also, my car is somewhat noticable (or am I being paranoid?). Are there any suggestions short of renting or buying a new car (it kind of defeats the purpose of going the SW route and steering clear of the expensive escorts and agencies). This is the primary reason I have not participated (except for a few trips to Pete and Mabel's) in this part of the "hobby".

Big D
05-28-02, 17:26
Happy,
You have been able to pick women up just with eye contact and luck? That is amazing to me, but I guess I could see it happening. Am I correct in thinking that the rate of success is really, really low? In other words, a hundred eye contacts, one hit?

Sorry I have nothing new to report. Since my little AMP adventure a week or two ago I have not had the time to dedicate. Does anyone cruise the area from Ashland to Western around Lake Street. Seems like too much LE for the trouble, but I have seen some (nasty) women out there. I know, old news, but are there EVER any gems in there?

Big D
05-28-02, 17:34
Oh, I forgot. As a frequent lurker and sometime poster, I want to throw my two cents into the whole controversy here.

I think that it is irrelevant whether these women have pimps. Nobody is committing a charitable act by having sex with a street walker. Whether she is on drugs or not, she is obviously not in a good way if she will have sex with a stranger for money (and not all that much money either).

The same is true of the racial comments about these women. Whether you are a racist or not, you have no responsbility to ensure that pick up a representative sample of women. If it is your sense that one race is more or less likely to pose health risks, that is your perogative. The reality is that it only takes one sick woman of any race to get you sick. I think we all know that. Whatever the rationale for your choices, they are yours and everyone else is free to make their own.

In short, live and let live and stop trying to "prove" that a person is a racist for the streetwalkers they pick-up. That is just silly.

Member #4828
05-28-02, 19:25
Hi all. I i'm new to adding posts here....hope to add some of my own adventures soon. I've always been a bit leery of cruising North Avenue, etc. because I'm from Indiana. Wonder if any of y'all have any insight into whether LE watches more closely for out of state plates or not.

Thanks.

JohnSmi108
05-28-02, 22:26
Greetings Gentlemen,

For the past 3 days, I've been scouting the 47th/Cicero area. Mostly because I havent been able to hook up with my fav girl either.

On Sun night. at around 8-9:30pm the only thing that I saw on the 47th/Cicero area was this hispanc girl. During that 2 hour period, I saw her hang out on 50th/Cicero then later on, walked towards Archer then walking east on Archer. She was around 5"6, average weight, had long, light brown hair tied in the back, and she wore a beige tube top that highlighted her big boobs, which looked fake to me, and dark blue jeans.

I passed by her a couple times and got a couple good looks at her. I dont know for sure, but she looked alttile like a TS. She looked alttle like on of those female impersonators. I just couldnt tell. I saw her get picked up and then dropped off several times. Either she was too expensive or my instincts were right. If someone knows, post. She really nice looking boobs, but her ass wasnt too shapely like a woman's.

On Mon afternoon at around 2-3pm, the only girl I saw was this very chubby girl who I think was Devlin's Nina?? She had long reddish, curly,full hair and was wearing a babyblue outfit and a hat. From afar she looked cute and young. But when I passed her a few times, she looked to be mid 20's. But she still looked semi-attractive and had a nice smile. She hung out by 50th/Cicero and walked on both sides on Cicero.

Then this afternoon at around 2-3pm, I think I saw the young white girl and black girl that Lady mentioned seeing in the a.m. Both were nicely dressed like they were going out clubbing, but they definately stuck out. I dont think that this is the same black girl that Lady saw because she looked farly decent, but chubby. All I remember about this black girl was her purple curly hair. I was more interested in the young, white girl.

I caught up to them at the alley by the other Marathon gas station on 48th/Cicero. The young, white girl was named "Skyy", with 2 "y's". I think she got her name from a billboard. I noticed a "SkyyBlue" drink?? ad on Cicero towards I55.She was around 5'7", long, blondish hair, parted to one side and tied in the back. She also had alot of freckes and a scar in between her eyes. She wore some kind of beige midtop and tight black pants. There was no stomach flab.

We talked business outside of the car. No "are you a cop?? Prove it." thing. Skyy seemed to be inexperienced as the black girl was guiding her about prices. She wanted $60 for a BJ, but seemed to be willing to go down to $50. But that was still too much for me. So I passed. She said she was out there at around that time. She offered her cell number for when I had more money. I called her a few minutes later and asked if I could give it out to a few friends and she said "Sure. Go ahead". So if any contributing, known posters want Skyy's number, email me at JohnSmi108@aol.com. Sorry I could take point on this one guys, but $50 too much and my funds are very limited right now.

Oh, yea. The two girls were later joined by an older, looking girl. Maybe late 20's, early 30's. She had long, straight, reddish hair parted in the middle. She was wearing a red top and a black mini skirt. Semi-petite body.

I've been doing the porn route and can suggest any Anabolic video that stars "Monica Sweetheart" especially Anabolic's Perverted Point of View #3. Monica Sweetheart is absolutly gorgeous. All natural, speaks greek, a swallower, and extremely cute. She could be Jennifer Anniston's very, very naughty sister.

Anyways, stay safe.

Lady
05-28-02, 22:58
Hi Guys.Its getting hot outside and by the way these girls dress you have to do a double take to find out whos a sw I was out today and saw alot of sw,s first off was on armitage saw about 3 reallywashed up hisanic sw,s then on armitage and california a really skinny blonde sw she looked okay from afar but then as i got close I saw her biting her nails and they looked bloody she seemed to be only about 18 but already had the signs of drugs/wear/tear and didnt look to clean at all, I wouldnt suggest armitage at all its like a thrid world country and the young girls even dress like sw,s out with their families its like they.re in training its disgusting....thats the bad news ...now for the good was also on 47th today past archer and across the street from aronson furniture was a really pretty clean looking latin sw,s she wore tinted glasses and pretended to be talking on her cell phone in the middle of the sidewalk but looks into traffic , just a few blocks away another sw but she to was washed out, And a few days ago on 47th and central saw a cutie sw with her hair in two braids wearing a retro short outfit with heels she looked fresh but not green to the scene...I do like when a sw,s puts some effort into her wardrobe so she gets an A for effort.That Armitage north ave west of western must be the bone yard of the sw,s what a bunch of creepy looking sw,s. Well thats my report.Stay safe and happy hunting. Lady

Hoehoehoe
05-28-02, 23:04
Joe the Lion - I think the issue you'll encounter is "what are you doing here?" Certainly an out of state plate puts you in the "cruiser" category. Best that you have a good story thought up ahead of time. "I am going across North to XXXX to visit my Aunt Millie, who's sick" or late at night, "Hey I just got out of a concert at (nice if you know where) and was cutting across the city to go to my fav BBQ place" etc.

Trust me, if you're stopped you will be asked. LE gets a lot of practice sorting out BS. It's a long cab ride home.

Big D
05-28-02, 23:31
Took a look around the North/Armitage circuit today from about 6:30 to about 8:30. Slim pickings. One "blonde" on Wabansia (terrible dye job), one hard-looking blonde in Armitage at California, a black woman at California and Armitage, and possibly a cute Latina. The hard looking blonde walked up to my car at the light and knocked on the window, asking if I wanted to date. Not very discrete.

Midway is too damned far for a cruise. Anyone familiar with north side areas other than North? Uptown, north Lincoln Avenue, or Wrigleyville? Years ago I picked up a very nice lady behind the Dunkin Donuts at Lincoln and Foster, but I have never seen other action there.

Lady
05-28-02, 23:35
oh yeah...John Smi108 good pass on that he she and far as out of state just act casual and say you travel here all the time act like you belong mention family is great advice...Also I think any woman long as she is of legal age has the propensity to get into sw its all about your approach asking if they need a ride etc...but please be nice about asking for whatever sw,s hate it when you guys talk really blunt like example " hows about a blowjob or a fuck?" I passed up a wealthy looking hawker who offered a ton of $$$ simply because he seemed to eager and said point blank "I just want to fuck you" I mean I know sw,s are not pure as the driven snow...but if he had changed his language we could have gotten somewhere,Besides his language made him seem like an ass. A better way ?'''at least to me is ...say if your offering a ride mention how much things cost today etc...why dont you have a car ? she probably say she cant afford one, then you can casually mention a mutual exchange kinda like well if you take care of me I,ll take care of you thing, thats always cool and if a sw mentions a high price use some personality charm her say something like I dont want much just a tease make them feel at ease its a high stress job and sw,s the REAL ONES not these dopefiends[a dopefiend will accept almost any price 20 bucks is like gold to them] are always on radar ,for trouble so putting them at ease helps tell her your nervous too etc..they get comfortable and may come down on price.and saying please doesnt hurt either .Just a suggestion but always strap up guys no matter how she looks, Take Care Lady

HeyDude
05-29-02, 10:06
I was cruising out on Monday Morning just east of western on North saw two girls. One white, Bblond a little tired looking but still young, the other a knock out light skinned black girl. Cruised around a bunch before the light skinned cick came up to my car she said she wanted $200 I was afraid to talk prices out side of the car and she refused to get in. Oh well. anyone dated her before?

OUt yesterday seemed to se a few good ones on Wabansia during the afternoon but they didn't bite.

Devlin
05-29-02, 10:16
JohnSmi108, you are a smart man for not paying up, when they can't find some suckers to pay their price, they can be had for $40 or lower. The gal u saw on Monday afternoon was Nina. she's short, chunky, black hair (wears wigs) and has beautiful blue/green eyes. she speaks french very well. also, in the same area you'll find Barb. she's about 5'8" slender, wavy black hair, wears dark pants and is spanish/irish. she is a very easy going great french speaker. play safe, happy hunting

HappyGardener
05-29-02, 13:45
From Lady:
the young girls even dress like sw,s out with their families its like they.re in training its disgusting.

Goodness, lady, are you getting conservative on uys now?
Just kidding :) .

I noticed that during that first hot spell a few aweeks ago. i was driving through Humboldt Park and it seemed like every girl was more and more revealing. I circled the block a couple of times looking at some high school hotties, feeling very much like the dirty old man that I am.

Big D:

Lincoln Ave is pretty much dead as a stroll. Mayor Daley hates those hot pillow motels along that stretch, and with the new library and cop shop going in on Lincoln, I think it will be a distant memory soon. I did call one of those hotels and talked the women into an hourly rate recently, but my date fell through.

And yes, the sucess rate at bus stops is low. I wasn't bragging becuz I am no stud muffin with a magic car... I was saying that just to illustrate NoBulls point about picking up girls in areas other than the strolls we normally cruise. It has happened both on Damen and on Western...after dark, when it is cold, and they have been waiting for a bus for a long time. They were not working girls, just girls who wanted a warm car, and when I offered them a quick $20 to service me while we drove them to where ever they were going they took it. Picked a girl up on Lawerence who was hitchhiking who asked me if I knew any place she could get a job. Same offer made to her. Maybe its because i am willing to take chances...course that is how you end up dead too.



Joe the Lion and others:
What has worked for me to tell cops is that I am a real estate investor looking for rental properties. I am checking out the neighborhood for gang activity and down and out properties to buy. It works well in that area West of Western...not so much now that Wicker Park is all 'Real Worlded' out

Just came back from A quick drive. North was bumper to bumper with traffic at 11:00am so I blew off looking. A couple of girls working Damen north of Diversey, but 3's in looks. Saving my money for the weekend. Still waiting for those offers to pour in to help me paint this weekend.

OCTravler. I think by now you have the lowdown on the Chicago scene. (yes, it sucks and we know that) Saw your post on NW Indiana as well. E-mail me at threeinches86@hotmail.com
I can give you other info for your search

Clubking01
05-29-02, 14:13
To antoniocool69:

In response to your question on 5/23, here's a copy of my post from April:

You might want to try www.granniesescorts.com for a "seasoned" escort. I once visited Ginger for a 1/2 hr incall.

Although there may be hotter girls, she was a true GFE. It was a real good 1/2 hr that really lasted about 45 minutes.

Their fees are a bit high: $$$1/2, 1-hr incall, $$1/2 for the 1/2 hr. But the GFE was a real pleasure for once.

Ginger is about 5'-5", 140 lbs, 38D-29-36, 45 yrs old. Really nice boobs. There are quite a few others listed on the web-site, too.

Good Luck.

Big D
05-29-02, 16:08
Happy,
You are a risk taker. Gotta admire that. I think I'd be too afraid of having a woman in my car who I'd just offended while I was trying to drive. I see lots of risk there. You are the man for seeing lots of opportunity there.

Lincoln (south of Peterson) always seemed like an amateur stroll to me. Up by the movie theater north of Peterson was professional. Oh well.

I know that the thrill of the hunt is missing, but my fail safe is still always Peking in Indiana. Always had good service, always enjoyed the experience. Always had the sense that it is nearly impossible to get convicted in a place like that (unless caught in the act).

Joe the Lion: Great question about Indian/Pakistani walkers. There is a woman on eros named India who looks to be from the right part of the world, but I have never seem a SW from there in Chicago. Seems like the Koreans, Chinese, and south Asians all keep the ethnic SW out of their neighborhoods. There must be south Asians who work, but maybe you need to get either lucky, or into the community further. Is there an English language local newspaper for those communities. Maybe there would be ads? Good luck with that. Soem south Asians are super hot.

Finally, I always getting pulled over cruising is just a hint that you are being watched, and maybe you should move on. I don't know of any law that is being broken. I have been asked what I was doing and said I was looking for rental opportunities for when a lease is up. They told me to stop looking and go home. I shrugged and did.

HappyGardener
05-29-02, 16:42
Gotta agree with you on the South Asian SW market. They keep it very discreet and out of sight.

Many years ago, I went into one of those clubs on Montrose that has only Korean lettering on the outside signs. Actually I have done it twice. The first time I sat at the bar.
Mamasan and bartender were very cordial. Expensive beers & complementary bowel of noodles and Kim Chee. Very good food. All of the booths of this resaurant had little swinging bar doors that blocked your view of the tables. Could see feet, but nothing else. Lots of Korean Businessmen. Many hostesses working, none available for the American boy though. Karoke in korean, we all had a good time. Upon leaving, I asked the bartender how I could meet a women, he told me next time I could join the club. "Happy Women" worked on tips. Very expensive tips. Like $ to just sit with you. Never went back.

A couple of years ago I wandered into a club on Lawrence and this time Bouncer sat next to me whole time. Very unfriendly atomsphere. One beer and I left.

I have a chinese friend who lives in Chinatown. He says, There are places down there, but no way I am going to get serviced. He doesn't go to them, because you don't poop in your own backyard. He goes out to Executive in Rockford!!


I keep thinking, all I need is one key, one person and I will find the underground Asian places. I almost had it last year when I got in really good with the manager of an AMP here on the North Side. We ultimatley got into a fight over something stupid and she broke everything off.

I think the same holds true in the Pilsen/Little Village area. Every Mexican City in mexico has the "Zona Rosa". Why not here?

Paki/Indians don't do much for me, but if anyone finds something, I would be willing to try it. As one of my African American friends says: "You are an equal-oppurtunity womanizer."

MWM
05-29-02, 17:26
Wow, you leave town for a week and everything goes to hell. Chester and Lady are true contributors, and I feel that if you aren't contributing...then shut the fuck up!!!!!!

On my way out of town last week in the mid afternoon, cruised for Mary...nothing. cruised south Cicero...nothing, cruised 47th...nothing, cruised south to Chicago Heights...nothing, cruised the forest perserve (Saulk Trail) and saw one nasty looking crack head and hundreds of really creepy guys. The FP is a strange place and I did not feel very comfortable and won't go back.

I have picked up a non working girl (not including the no money exchanged one night stand) on 3 occassions. First was years ago on Lincoln. She was a run away and needed a place to stay. Hours of sex for a bed, breakfast and $15. Second time, I convinced a non working girl to have FS for $30. I approached her thinking she was working and when she said fuck off, I started the sales pitch. Ended up being a terrible experience as she freaked when we started doing it. Last time was 4 years ago in Cleveland, I was cruising by the airport near all of the strip clubs and was turning around in a Big Boy parking lot when I spotted the most stunning woman with huge tits. I approached her and it was apparent that she was just there to get a burger. She asked what I wanted and I told her and she thought about and accepted. Took her in to eat and went back to my hotel and had sex for the next five hours! I amazed myself, but the combination of her beauty, and the Psuedephed I had taken for my allergies, helped to keep it all going. Turns out she was a stripper who had a bad night and was feeling kind of horny. It was her first time in this situation. She never asked for any money until she left a 9 the next morning. I asked her how much she wanted and she said she didn't know what to ask for, so I offered her $100 and a dozen free music CD's (I sell them). She was so thrilled she gave me another bj before we left. A once in a lifetime opportunity, but you'll never have one unless you make the advances.

Odds are more like 5,000 to 1, than 100 to one.

googly
05-29-02, 21:56
Hello gents, longtime lurker trying to add
something for what its worth to help the crowd.
Driving home last night on Ogden near
Western when I caught the eye of a young-
looking Hispanic gal who calls herself
Yolanda. Drove around the corner to
commercial parking lot. BJ for $180 and
I threw in a $20 as a thank you. She
had some massive stretch marks, but
otherwise was quite nice if you like the heavy type.
I'll keep you posted about any other
experiences.

Big D
05-29-02, 22:09
Googly, did you pay $200 for a BJ in your car? Oh my. That seems pretty high. Probably more on that from others.

I noticed today that there are No Cruising signs at Elston/Fullerton/Damen. Typically these signs are put up where there is action (nice of the them to mark the areas). Anyone know of any action there? I have never looked around for it because I am always trying to just get through that damn intersection.

For all of you who have picked up nonpros-- you are better men than I. It just never really crossed my mind to even try. Outstanding!

Lady
05-29-02, 22:47
Sorry guys...but Googly is the man for me!!!!Googly $200 for a bj in your car? I think I,m in love...lol...but seriously if you like to be that gracious I have my hand out too. 200 200 for a car bj? that sw must of felt as though she hit the lottery :) I only hope that she came home and cleaned your house too for that price!!! that was a good one. Lady p.s guess the gas station is the place to hang out huh ?

BigTimeLoser
05-29-02, 23:02
Hey All,

Sorry for the late post, but I need to recap my date on Saturday night. Picked up Katherine on Hermitage just north of North. She is about 5'10-5'11, blondish/brown hair, and probably an 8-9 on the Chicago sw scale. She wore knee-high black boots along with some short black dress and jacket. $100 got me a good 50 minutes of full service in my car. She said she is really new to the scene, and she is hooked up with Goldy already. She has no cell phone yet--I gave her a number to call me at; if she calls me, I will post more.
Lady, the skinny blonde you mentioned is probably April. She was slender already when I saw her last year, she is only 19 or so, and she was already developing a bad crack habit. She must look terrible now.
Enjoy!

TheDude
05-30-02, 01:22
Happygarderner,

Sorry, don't have Peaches' number. But if you cruise around Logan Square Area (Milwaukee & a few blocks south of Diversy all the way down to Millshire Hotel opposite MEGAMALL) after 7 PM back and forth for a while, you won't miss her as I have seen her hang out lately and on schedule.

Is it my imagination or was North Avenue loaded with SWs this evening? Also, saw a couple of new faces on Devon & Clark today. One girl (in pink top) was hanging out with this old broad, but she looked sortof Tom boyish. However, she asked me $50 for FS, but I had a prior engagement.

I have cruised around 47th past few days, but have not been able to spot SWs between 4:50 and 6:00. Has there been a sweep lately? Where are the usual spots for good looking Hispanic SWs?

Good look and happy hunting!

Hoehoehoe
05-30-02, 02:47
I think the "massive stretch marks" on Yolanda, the girl with the golden ($200) throat are not from childbirth, but from her wallet loaded with cash stretching her skin.

This has to be a record!

Hey Chester, if I go to the Marketing/Tech focus group, we'll have to start wearfing some secret badge of recognition. Maybe a little gold plated bonsai garden hoe. Shit I could get those made and sell them to people here...damn.

Mario_Kaliente
05-30-02, 07:35
Cruised around midway yesterday (47th- Archer & Cicero) saw a tall blonde girl, I've seen her before, long legs, nice tits, about a 7-8. She was standing on 48th and cicero and walking towards the alley west of cicero, by the time I got around the block she was getting into another car.

Cruised the area for a few more minutes, nothing.... I then headed east on 47th and I saw a scary looking SW on Kostner, again very scary looking..... ON 47th and Pulaski, I saw another sw, and she made eye contact, she was about 5'5'' a little chubby but she looked good, but tons of LE out, so I passed....

Chester, I like the idea of creating a "club"... also I can assist with web hosting, etc....

Stay safe.

Mario

Lady
05-30-02, 09:14
Is BigTimeLosers April the same "peaches from the millshire" saw her picture the eyes look the same but this april , really looks strung out????, poor thing because shes only like 18 and already washed up looking, she reminds me of a suburban runaway, peaches is a blond too they both have thoses squinty eyes are they the same girl? Also saw the tinted glasses latina girl on 47th again yesterday she doesnt seem to bad, feathered hair ,body allright, she pretends o be on her cell phone. Stay safe happyhunting guys Lady

Clubking01
05-30-02, 10:53
Chester:

I’m cool with your club idea as well. I suggest that we back channel any arrangements so that we can control somewhat who shows up. Secondly, I would prefer that we would meet during the week as opposed to the weekend because it is hard for many of us to get away most weekends, but I’ll go along with the majority.

Lady, it would be great if you could show up too. I would love to meet you in person.

Now on to other matters. Mario_Kaliente, was the blonde you saw on Cicero Ave. yesterday dressed with a black top and black jeans and has a nice chest? (This was the same girl I saw on 5/17 standing by the McDonald’s lot). I saw her yesterday on Cicero, around 49th street. She was walking north on Cicero. I went around the block, but saw LE patrolling the side streets, working their way right towards her. I must have went past this cop car about three times, so I decided to high-tail it out of there before they pulled me over because I’m sure they recognized that I was cruising the area. This was around 5:00 p.m. yesterday.

Other observations. There was a really hot looking SW at 50th by the Walgreen’s parking lot around 4:15 p.m. She had reddish-brown hair, stood about 5’-6”, maybe 5’-7”, slim, with a very tight, short pink skirt on. It was so obvious that she was an SW. I also saw the short black SW with the wide hips there as well.

I had to get something at Walgreen’s, so I pulled into the lot, saw her standing near the alley. But because I was concerned that she could be LE, decided to get the things I had to stop for, then check out the situation afterwards. Good news, she’s not LE. Devlin may know who she is. About 25 minutes later, I saw her crossing the street at 50th and Cicero, toward the Marathon station. Interestingly, she ran across the street and got into a beat-up Honda parked on 50th, and sped off north on Cicero. Was she going for drugs? She didn’t look too “druggy”. Anyway, she drove right to the McDonald’s. I guess it was hunger, not drugs…lol.

I made another pass, and the car was gone, not to return this day. Too bad. She was pretty hot-looking.

I also saw the fat girl with shoulder-length brown hair, strolling along Cicero between 50th and 49th. This was around 5:40 p.m. I also saw a rather tired looking blonde at 50th. She looked decent from a distance, wearing a black bikini-type top and blue jeans. She walked up to me at the light on 50th, asked for a cigarette and then asked if I was dating. After getting a close look, she was much older than she looked from a distance. She said she had a room to go to about seven blocks away (her friend’s house), I decided to pass. Again, LE came around the corner shortly after that.

After seeing the LE for the third time (sorry for the digression) I decided to head up Cicero and look for SkunkBro’s Mary. Drove up Roosevelt to Harlem and back. No Mary, no nothing. As a matter of fact, I went north on Cicero to Fifth Avenue, back around to Kostner, then west on Roosevelt back to Cicero. Nothing. With the weather so nice, I figured I would see a few SW in traditional regalia, especially in the area about three blocks west of Kostner on Roosevelt. Nothing.

I then drove back south on Cicero to 47th. East on 47th, about 6 blocks, I saw a blonde girl in a blue top and blue jeans walking east on 47th. I passed her, went around the block, and she was heading down the side street. I went around again, another car ahead of me was looking too. He stopped, she talked to him, then he drove off. She then approached my car, asked to get in. I recognized her as the SW I picked up a few months back. (One of the blondes with the black headband). I decided to pass, and went off to an appointment on the northside (time= about 7:00 p.m.)

Left my appointment at Belmont and Ashland about 11:30 p.m. and decided to cruise North Avenue on the way home. I saw one short, white SW with red hair in jeans about a block or two east of Damen on North. She whistled at me, but I was moving in traffic. By the time I went back around, she was gone. I saw nothing else.

By the way, there were loads of TV/TS’s out on Belmont. Some looked pretty good, some looked like Sammy Sosa with a wig on. They were walking the stroll between Sheffield and Halsted. Some looked so good that I had to drive around a second time just to look again….Not that I'm necessarily promoting this, but it was still an interesting show as some would pull up their tops and show off their enhanced breasts to the passing cars, and as they said on Seinfeld, "...not that there's anything wrong with that." lol

Again, there is plenty of LE presence around 47th and Cicero, with regular cars patrolling the side streets, SO BE CAREFUL OUT THERE! It also appears that the same girls are working the area between 4:00-6:00 p.m.

So it was a long day of driving. Sorry for the length of the post, but I don't always have that much time to cruise, so I tried to make the most of it, hopefully, some of this is enlightening.

Lady, what time did you see the latina on the phone?

FYI…my e-mail is TSFSE@cs.com for anyone interested in pursuing the meeting idea.

Lady
05-30-02, 13:15
I have seen this latina twice with the tinted glasses she hangs out by aronson on 47th it was about 7:30pm mornings seem to be the time for cicero/47th around 9:00am but if you see ANY LE just go its not worth the hassle,Stay safe guys Lady

HappyGardener
05-30-02, 15:09
Googley says:
Driving home last night on Ogden near
Western when I caught the eye of a young-
looking Hispanic gal who calls herself
Yolanda. Drove around the corner to
commercial parking lot. BJ for $180 and
I threw in a $20 as a thank you.

Dude, you tell me where to stroll and I'll give you French lessions for $200!
that will than pay for 10 of my $20 ones...lol. Ok, ok we have given him a lot of grief. Thanks for the posting, always glad to add a new voice to the crowd.
Don't take any of this personally.

On the same note of ClubKings TV/TS story and my telling Big D how to pick up girls who are not SWs, I need to tell you about a little encounter I just had. I stopped to get my haircut at noon, and as I was crossing the street, I looked up to the apt. window above the barber shop. Hispanic girl with big tits, wearing a tanktop and a smile.

"How are you?"
"Fine, wanna come up"
"Sure"
"Ring #16"

I wasn't sure what I was walking into, but what the hell. It's hot today and everyone is enjoying it and it is almost the weekend....just put my wife on the plane and i am thinking what way to start my little vacation.

Apartment is overdone with leopard print and statues and other odd stuff. She has kind of an Ellen Barken face with a twisted lip smile. Spice Channel playing on the TV.

We make small talk, then cut to the chase. $40 for a BJ, but meanwhile I am eying everything closer now including the Adams apple and the man-hands. Nice tits (38DD) though with great nipples. she had me touch them and the amazing thing is they didn't feel like those hard softball rocks that so many enhanced girls get. A friend told me that the Latin TS inject saline directly into their breasts instead of getting the bags put in. Cheaper I guess. Petite body, but I am sure their is something else under that denim skirt other than the thong.

Told her I only had the $10 for my haircut and excused myself, she invited me back anytime.


Would live to hook up with anyone in the club. back channel is best as that is the way I hooked up with a couple of guys from TBD. Sorry Chester, middle of the week during the evennngs is probably the way most of us married working guys will have to do it.

And get this...After I dropped my wife off and came home, I had a voice mail message from my mother telling me she has some event downtown this weekend and she wants to spend the night at my house on Friday & Saturday instead of driving back to the suburbs. How do you tell your mother that I was planning to bring hookers back to the house while my wife was away?? Suddenly I feel 17 again. Sigh

Devlin
05-30-02, 15:41
Happygardener, Please be careful!! what if he/she offered u a drink and when u woke up your ass was sore? unless u really know the sw, never go to her place. it could be a setup. don't become a crime victim. play safe, happy hunting

Clubking01
05-30-02, 15:43
happygardener:

Sorry to hear your weekend was ruined. I've had my wife do that on a couple of occasions where she was traveling for business and scheduled to come home on one day, then changed to an earlier day! Of course, I had some tentative plans that were ruined for the night she was supposed to be gone! Oh we11!

I think that a Friday night for the meeting could be okay. It is easier to get out of the house on Friday than saturday for me.

On the TV/TS issue, I did have a brief discussion with one last night as I was sitting in traffic. HE/SHE promised me the BJ of my life for $40. It appears that could be the going rate in that venue.

I passed, although HE/SHE still looked pretty good. lol

HappyGardener
05-30-02, 17:03
Thanks for your concern guys. Really.

Don't think that a million thoughts didn't pass through my head as I went up the stairs. I sat with my back to the wall while I was there, watching the closet doors. Everytime I have gone into a SW house, the first thing I do is ask to use the bathroom, and I check the shower and all the other doors on the way there.

I only drink from bottles that i open myself in a strangers apt. Same thang I tell kids before they go to any concerts. Sucks telling 13 and 14 yos not to drink anything a stranger hands them at a concert. back in the day, I remember joints going up and down the rows at the Pink Floyd concert at Soldier Field. Excuse me while I roll my wheelchair over to the stereo now..lol.

Clubking...admit it, with a few beers in you, HE/SHE would look pretty good. I know because I used to live in that hood back in the 80's. My then girlfriend used to say those boys' legs looked better than hers...and she was right!

Friday nights would be good. Easier than Saturday. How about a First Friday club? Meet somewhere after work on the first Friday of the month? In my previous post I was just lamenting I couldn't go out at 1:00am like our hero Chester. The boys on the Bronx section of the New York post have a hoe club as well.

MWM
05-30-02, 19:44
Once again, out for an afternoon cruise. No Mary to be found ( she sees a high paying trick most Thursdays, so she said she's usually not out). Nothing on S. Cicero, nothing on 47th, nothing on N Cicero, nothing much on Armitage or North (west of Western). Was about to get back to work when I spotted this hot blonde named Jackie. Hispanic gal with great tits, lovely curly blonde hair. She's about 30 with a very calm and confident dispositon...definately not a crack head. Picked her up on North about 6 blocks west of Western and got a good BJ for $25. She didn't name a price, but I probably could have gotten it cheaper. She was cute, so what the hell! Dropped her off near her place at Armitage and Kildare...look for her, it's worth it! Also, she didn't stop sucking until I was drained and had to ask her to stop...so sensitive, I love that.

Play safe and don't let the wife find out!

One more thing, in my renewed quest to get non SW's to perform, I did talk to the cutest 19 y/o hispanic girl who was not working, but did come over to the car to find out what I wanted. Offered her a lift, but she lives 1/2 block from where I met her. Asked her if she was dating and she said no, so I offered her $50 for a half hour of fun, and she hesitated for a few seconds before deciding no. Damn, I thought I had her...she was so hot.

So my question to everyone is, Why (in my experiences) are the young non working hispanic girls most likely to come over and talk. All the other non working girls either ignore me or flip me off. Is there a cultural thing I'm not getting. I love the young hispanic girls!!!!

WillySP
05-30-02, 20:30
I was out from around noon to 6 on North, Cicero, Western, Addison I didn't see any SW, alot of good looking women out but wasn't able to find any willing.
If my schedule doesn't change I will be in the same areas tomorrow on business maybe find someone then.

googly
05-30-02, 20:46
Hello my friends,

By your comments about my $200 BJ,
I see you think I may be crazy, but
perhaps "crazy as a fox", eh? Please
bear with me.

I am an economist, fairly recent to
the US, having spent the last few
years in the former Soviet Union
helping them adapt their economies.

I did not realize $200 was so much for
nice BJ, but that is besides the point.
From reviewing your posts, it is obvious
that there are not enough good-looking
street walkers to satisfy the demand.
Are you surprised? At $20 or so, what
girls besides crackheads and such will
be tempted? Now, "Lady" and a guy
(jokingly) offer to give me BJ for $200.
Don't you see? If we offer way over-market
prices (see Milton Friedman's work) we
will increase the supply of desirable women
so that we me all be amply serviced
by beautiful housewives, coeds and more.
So, because of my work and my income,
I intend to offer $150 and more for
BJ, and even more for FS. If you're
interested my email is drzeus11@hotmail.com

Ciao.

googly
05-30-02, 21:02
Please excuse the double-post, but
I need to clarify. I put my email
address in for the few who might
be interested in a discussion
about attracting newcomers to
"the profession", so that I would
not bother and bore others. It is not an
invitation for guys to email to offer
their services. Thank you.

BigTimeLoser
05-30-02, 22:05
Ah yes...and I will began the debate.
1) You will not bring as many new girls as you think to this profession by paying current sws more than what they normally get. Most girls get into this through desparation or through friends who are already in the profession. Most women attracted to the money go through the dancing and escort routines first.
2) I have paid upwards of 120-150 for some really good looking women, but I got an hour of *****-free sex in my car for it. Paying 200 for a BJ on a regular basis is definitely well above the going rate for a sw in the city.
3) You may hurt fellow hobbyists, especially if you start seeing the same girl a few times and get her hooked on this easy money. She may lower her attitude/performance for the guys whose dicks she sucked for $40.
HOWEVER, it is your money and if you feel the service is worth it and as long as you can bankroll it, go for it and have fun.
P.S.---always hold some money back until the act is over...make her know that you have to have fun for her to get the rest. Read previous posts for plenty of examples of unenthused teeth-jockeys who make you feel bad just by being with them.
I am going out to scout tonight--I hope the action is as plentiful as Chester said it was earlier!
Enjoy!

JohnSmi108
05-30-02, 22:06
MWM, I feel for ya buddy. I too was out there and ended up checking out the 47th/Cicero area alittle bit. I got there at aound 1:45pm and the Cicero traffic going south was horrible. I didnt see anything until going back north on Cicero. I just saw a couple girls, one blonde and one brunette going into the Marathon gas station at 50th/Cicero to cool off I guess.

I circled the block several times waiting for them to get out. On my last pass, I saw the brunette crossing the street towards 49th. I sped off quickly to at least get a good look at her as I passed by her and she looked pretty attractive.She had shoulder length, curly dark hair. She may have been the Latina girl that's been spotted before. She was wearing a beige, silk, chiffon(sp?) pants and top. She also had a large tattoo on her back shoulder/arm...if that helps ID her more.

I lost track of her, but I think she was heading towards the McDonalds. I tried to see if I could find the blonde I saw also going into the gas station, but didnt see her around.

Going back north on Cicero, I was stopped at the 47th/Cicero intersection. At the McDonalds parking lot facing 47th, I saw a black guy, who I'm assuming was a pimp, sitting around with a thin, tall SW. But what really caught my eye was this shoulder length, straight blonde haired girl walking out of a cab with the cab driver. She was wearing a tight yellow top. She approached the black guy and talked for alittle bit then got back in the cab. I dont know if she was a SW or not, but she looked young/20's and hot. If anyone know, post.

I passed through the North/Wabansia area at about 7pm, but found nothing at first. I noticed a Channel 2 news van parked in the alley near Winchester. I even saw one of the newscaster. Vince Gerasole. I decided to see what was going on and also decided to make one last pass.

Drove east on Wabanisa and saw nothing. But heading west on North, I saw a blonde just walking out of Hermitage and onto North walking west. I was passing by her and looked over to her. She gave me the SW nod and I nodded back. I then turned onto Woods and stopped by the alley. In my rearview mirror I saw her looking for me, but didnt see me and continued walking. I couldnt park at the corner because there were people at the outdoor tables at the coffee shop. And I felt uncomforterable picking out a SW right in front of these patrons.

I quickly sped though the alley, onto Hermitage, and then onto North, pass Woods. I thought she was walking down the the alley by Honore because I didnt see her on North anymore. But I did see her on Honore. I saw her getting into an SUV. Doh!!!!! I looked for her for the next half hour. I was at the right place and the right time, but missed my opportunity!!!

Anyways, she has semi-wavy, light, blonde hair bundled up on top. She was around 5'6", average build, early 20's. She was wearing a white dress shirt and blue jeans. She looked pretty decent and clean and looked like one of these college girls out for drinks.

It's 9pm, this girl may still be out there. So if anyone tried her out, please post!!

JohnSmi108
05-30-02, 23:06
For those of you interested in seeing Skyy, she said she'd be out on North tonight at around the HomeDepot. She has a distinctive scar between her eyebrows. Stay safe. It's vice night.

ElPasoGentleman
05-30-02, 23:47
Originally posted by sweder999
I am thinking about taking a trip. What are some good cities in the US for SW action? I have searched a lot of the boards here and have found some good leads. Just wanted to know your ideas.


Thanks for any suggestions.

Try El Paso, TX. It's hot, dry, windy and rather unattractive. That's the weather and landscape. I'm formerly from Gold Coast Chicago and have found the women scene, however, to be extraordinary. The gentemen's clubs in EP are delightful. $10-20 per lap dance that includes everything from full touch to very nice BJ's. If the gal likes you, you'll find her doing it without a condom. That runs about $20-40.

Then there is Juarez across the border. The massage parlors are clean, safe and $35-45 per hour will get you a cutie who will do FS and even play around for awhile. A number of them want to get right down to business, I avoid them and patronize those that like to play around a little bit. But they are sweet gals who have earned my respect. I treat them like ladies, and they treat me like a king.

If interested, check out the posts here for Juarez and El Paso.

Good luck

HappyGardener
05-31-02, 00:04
Googly:
If and when we ever get together as a group I want you there. Milton Friedman?? Am I suddenly transported to Hyde Park and the U of C GSB?
Debate...no at the moment I am feeling the effects of hot weather, Vodka and lemonade, and an old friend who stopped by to make sure I was ok with the wife being out of town. I am about to put the club clothes on annd go to Circuit for salsa night. I am sure an overweight, balding 41 y.o. will fit right in.

I actually was laughing as I read all these posts. Good to see all the activity.
I was feeling kind of down after watching all the news about finishing up work at the WTC in New York. Because of my work, I had to go to the site twice last year in October and December. Let us hope, we never forget. End of Sermon.

Big time Loser I agree with all you said.

MWM: I know what you mean. I am in a phase right now where i get hard just looking at a Hispanic chiquita.

Lady
05-31-02, 00:55
Good Googly woogly as Grady from Sanford and Son would say....First of all the neighborhood where you paid for that BJ and all of those other neighborhoods like armitage and west of western north ave are fucked up places high poverty levels lots of drugs and thieves not to mention bums and car jackers big time domestic problems......sorry but you are not going to find some coed or house wife out on a stroll, Any sw thats out in those areas especially really late at night or early in the morning isnt trying to pay her rent, most guys would be scared as shit to walk those strolls, the courage that these girls have comes from fear of not getting their dope. No straight girl is going to be tempted into getting in the game by your paying that price because coeds and housewife normally dont hang out with crackheads so whos going to tell them of your master plan ?Of course on my way to college I always stop and talk to the dopefiend prostitutes, it goes like this.... Dopefiend says please help me light my crackpipe college girl. me:I am studying chemistry and biology. Dopefiend: Really well you should quit I just sucked some guys dick for 200 dollars. Me: I,ll let the adminstration know right away thanks dopefiend for getting me in on your glamouruos career....yeah okay...All your doing in reality is buying more dope for the sw,s and then we will see less of them because the wont have to come out as much to feed their habits 200 will last them for at least a few good hours were as 20 bucks only lasts them 30 minutes to an hour then they are back outside, The going rate seems to be 20....also guys heres a tip they always try to charge a white guy more money than say a hispanic or whatever especially if you are dressed well or have a decent car,I know its stupid but its that ghetto mentality they think the white people have it all. but like I said most will accept 20 for a 10-15 min bj or whatever.Especially if they are on the street. And if you catch them really bad off they will take ten. oh well I think I,m going to mention this at my next PTA meeting so look out guys here come the housewives...LOL...Googly you make it hard on all the other guys, This is alot different than the soviet union were you may have alot of good girls out there really trying to feed their family, but like I said I havent seen one yet. Oh Well, Be Safe guys I am going to get some sleep..Lady

googly
05-31-02, 03:24
Lady and others,
Thank you for your comments. I am sure you
are correct but like Mao, I belive "a journey of
a thousand miles begins with a single step".

I heard similar arguments in Silesia/Minsk/Lithuania
about increasing the ranks of coalminers/nurses/ironworkers,
respectively.
Despite the obvious differences in culture and language, the
solution was the same: a dramatic increase in salary
increases the available pool of talent. In the same way,
only by sharply increasing what we will pay for SWs will
we elevate beyond the current pool of desperodoes (sp?).

Case in point: last week I met a sweet young girl
(Maria? but she was white) on Roosevelt and Elmwood
at Berwyn gas station. Drove around to an alley
(reminds me of the layout of dachaus in Warsaw!)
and received the sweetest BJ ever. Boy did her eyes
pop out when I gave her $160! I spoke with her about
my and my friends' plan, and she agreed to tell her
friends, who she imagined would "enroll at those prices".

My last point my friends as it is late: I propose a
controlled experiment over the next few months. Since
I live in River Forest, and two other friends live in nearby
suburbs, we will try to raise the payouts/expectations
on all routes west (North Av, Madison, Roosevelt, Ogden).
We will post our results, with the expectation of a significant
increase in the desirability of SWs in these areas, as
compared to those "off our route" (e.g. South Side).
Science marches on!

Dr. Zeus

Mario_Kaliente
05-31-02, 06:33
ClubKing, that was the same blonde, I saw her around 5:00 p.m

AmonRa
05-31-02, 09:29
googly:

"I know there is no such thing as a free lunch." But damn!!! $160 for 15 minutes work???? $640 for an hour???? It is plain to see how some people have far too much money for their own good! Although I would not ask your age, googly, you bring to mind a saying that dear old Grandpa always professed to me, "There are many young fools, but not very many old fools." Gramps also came up with. "Poor people are poor for a reason." You Sir are well on your way!

Further more I believe you are incorrect in saying that Friedman equates higher wages with a more productive and expanding work force. Friedman may have acknowledged a short-term growth in productivity and quality with increased wages, but that gain would soon evaporate once the new wages were thought of as commonplace in the work force. I suppose it all comes down to that little four-letter word, "greed"!

"We have a system that increasingly taxes work and subsidizes nonwork."

Clubking01
05-31-02, 10:29
Entering the Googly debate a bit.

I agree with Lady and BigTimeLoser. Pushing up the price only makes it worse on all of us other guys,

Lady is correct in that this is a lot different from the Soviet Union. Whereby the proliferation of new workers into a specific industry may be directly influenced by the wages available, social and environmental issues also play a huge part in driving an industry, specifically in this case, the street walking trade.

BTL is correct that most girls get into this through desperation or through friends who are already in the profession. Again, most have tried and failed to raise the money they need, for whatever reason, and turn to streetwalking as a last resort.

Our society does not allow for an easy transition into and out of this type of service. It is too dangerous for fringe workers to enter for some easy money, especially on a consistent basis.

At best, while a huge jump in the prices paid for services may attract a few fringe newcomers in the beginning, once the demand starts to drop due to the higher prices, these new faces and others will drop out to seek better, safer, and more socially acceptable cash opportunities elsewhere.

Basically said, an increase in price will not provide, or support, a requisite increase in SW quality.

Enough of that.

Mario- The blonde appears to be in demand around 47th/Cicero. She gets picked up fast, but watch out for LE patrolling the side streets!

Big D
05-31-02, 10:41
Googly,
I suspect that with focused efforts you could get certain girls to have sex for elevated prices. Isn't that the premise of that movie five or so years ago (a million bucks for sex with this guy's wife)?

However, I think you are confusing two markets. Lady is right on when she says that many streetwalkers are out on the stroll for very specific amounts of money for very specific needs. In contrast, escorts are already a higher priced alternative for women who are not willing to stroll, and are not willing to perform sex acts for $20. I suspect that the housewives and co-eds you expect to tempt into sex for money will *not* end up (as housewives and co-eds) on North, or by Midway, but rather on eros or rs2k. In other words, the market has already worked, and the Lithuanian coalminers in this situation and $500/hr hookers on eros, not streetwalkers in a bad neighborhood.

Nevertheless, good luck in your experiment. The true test will be if you spend all of your money on Armitage or the southwest side, and entice otherwise law-abiding locals into sex. Paying a River Forest housewife $500 for fs is of no benefit to anyone but her, and just proves that every individual has a price.

Devlin
05-31-02, 10:57
Googly, There is a sucker born every minute. i hope u do continue to pay up because u will not bring out more quality sw's but rather be known as a easy "mark" to the regular sw's. the majority sw's have to suck and f**k because they have habits to feed. i will have a huge smile on my face when i blow my load in the sw's mouth for $30 knowing some sap probably paid her $200 for the same service. play safe, happy hunting

Dizzle
05-31-02, 11:05
Boy, haven't posted since the format changed, but I couldn't resist this one. So here's my .02 on the google report.

I don't see how paying more than the rest of us will bring out better talent. I can see, however how it can hurt those of us paying $20-$40 for the same service. Alot of these girl start out as, pardon the term "Prime Talent", but do to the strain of the life style very few end up that way. There are of course exceptions to the rule and with turnover (girls leaving and new younger girls starting the stroll, etc) there will always be those that are more desirable than other. It also boils down to a matter of taste and preference. If you want to spend that kind of $$ why not just log onto eros and spend some time with an escort.

Lastly, in reference to your statement that by jacking up the prices will bring out better sw's, I'll leave you with this....

A friend of mine who's a Real Estate agent once asked me the simple question, "Who do you think makes more money? The guy who sells houses for $150,000 or the guy who sells houses for $50,000?" His response was the guy who sells $50,000 houses, because he will sell more.

Now, time to truely contribute...was out on North Ave. last Friday night and picked this thick (not fat) sista' standing by the Amoco station. She said that her name was Veronica and that she's out every night around midnight until....

Sorry for the length of the post, but like I said...it's been awhile.

Stay safe fellas!!

Bozack
05-31-02, 11:19
Was out for a bit on north last night (1:30-2:30). Not much action and lots of LE. I saw something interesting, though, and am looking for some info/feedback.

I pulled into the Citgo on North ave to fill up, and a cute blonde was sitting in a black car, not getting gas, just waiting there, sucking a lolipop. My radar went off, and I was preparing to talk to her as I got out of my car, when some other guy pulled in front and began to speak to her. I couldn't hear their discussion, but after a few seconds they pulled out together(?).

Anyone know if this gal was "car-dating"? She was blonde, quite cute, and drove a somewhat beat-up black compact car.

Stay Safe

HappyGardener
05-31-02, 13:02
I can add nothing to what everyone else has said to Googly so I won't waste the bytes. If he wants girls who cost $200 he should go to *********.net and check out the Chicago public boards.

Last night I went to Circuit on Halsted for Salsa night. It is a mixed crowd...mostly Latin, some white, gay, straight. They put on a lip sync show at midnight...mixture of Ricky Martin wanna- bes and drag queens. Ended up at the bar standing next to a couple of Mexican girls in their late 20's. Pretty fresh from mexico, and kind of that short, chunky look. We talked, I bought drinks and as it got closer to 1:30, they asked if I would drive them to a club on 26th st. I said sure and you know what else I asked for. One of them said sure, but also wanted $20.00 for when they got to the next club. Fair trade. I took $20.00 and seperated it from the rest of my money, stuck it in my pants pocket and we headed off

Ended up taking one of the girls to her home on 26th and St. Louis, driving the other one to the other club, while she gave me covered French lessions. Don't know if it was the alcohol or the translater, but I could not spill my coffee.

In the mean time she sees her cousin (another one) walking to this club.
She gets in the car too. My pants are around my ankles and her eyes get all wide. Well, I pull them up and the $20.00 is gone. She tells me it must have dropped out. Yeah, right. She trys to hit me up for more money. So, now I am thinking, am I dealing with a pro and didn't see it? Never drink and hobby.

By now, it is like 3:00 AM, and I am tired and pissed and want to go home. They want to go home too and they both live at 18th and Ashland. So now I am a taxi service. I get to their house, and the cousin hangs by the car for a minute. She says she we can have fun for $40.00. What the hell, why not?
All the danger signs are flashing, but I go for it. (Y'all are saying, we just got done lecturing him about going into SW apartments!) We go into this oven of an apartment, where she has to wake someone up so we can use the only bedroom. This is a small 3 room apartment, with three of them sharing the living space. Having been born and raised in America, I am always amazed when I see what people will live in when they come to this country.

I spend about a half hour there, finally spill my coffee all over her and go home very tired. So $20 for some French with one girl, and $40 for FS with the other. I did get an offer as I was leaving that next time if I wanted both cousins at the same time, I could pay $30 to each of them. I don't know, I wasn't all that turned on by either one of them. And now that I am sober.....all the other associated riskscome into mind too.
Guess they are pros or at least part time pros...the one kept saying they needed money

In retrospect not a bad night, even with all the side trips. Kind of puts the high in high risk though going into three different aprtments in one day.


Sorry for the long post, but it was a weird night, wanted to tell someone about it, and this is not the kind of thing to talk about at the water cooler.

Devlin
05-31-02, 13:21
Happygardener, i like you BUT if you ever travel to a tough neighborhood and enter into a strangers apartment, i am going to hold you down while Lady and Chester give u a bare bottom paddling. all kidding aside, PLEASE be careful.

Big D
05-31-02, 15:24
Happy,
Good god man, are you insane? Two fine young Latinas for $60 and you don't have any contact info?

Just kidding. That really is high risk. Glad you're around to tell of it. Hate to try to explain a beat down on Pilsen to the wife when she gets back. Why didn't I file a police report? Oh, I figured the guys were long gone... What was I doing in Pilsen? Looking for good tacos at 3:00 am, what else...

Clubking01
05-31-02, 15:49
Happygardener:

I know you don't need any further lectures and I won't, since I've found myself in very similiar situations in the past as well.

I'm just glad you're here to talk about it, and were finally able to get off!

Skunkbrother
05-31-02, 17:57
Man, if anything I've got to hand it to the google man for starting a very interesting discussion. I have been very delighted at the depth and intellect of all who have posted and with nary a flame (well almost nary).

Happy G you have got some balls my friend. I'm not going to chastise you at all. I'm glad it turned out to be an adventure for you (that's what you wanted right?) and it had the proverbial happy ending.

Gentlemen (and Lady) I am sad to say that I will soon have to leave our great little forum as I am being transfered and relocating to another state at the end of next month.

So, if any plans come together for a club meeting in the very near future could we have it as a Skunkbro farewell?


skunkbrother666@yahoo.com

peace out

googly
05-31-02, 20:05
happygardner,
what a great story! thanks for sharing and
glad you got home safe.

I appreciate all the responses to my ideas
(event those that came this close to a flame!).
Well, I am really jazzed because I do have
a small victory to report. I had told
Maria(?) about my attempt to bring some fresh
sheep into the herd, gave her my cell phone #,
and just 15 minutes got a call from her "cousin"
who is interested in hooking up. Describes
herself as good looking, an amateur up to this
point, but in the need of some quick cash at the
end of the month. We're meeting at McDonalds
later tonight to check each other out; if she's
as good as she sounds, I'll go as high as $250 for FS.
Have to prime the pump gentlemen!

Just a quick comment or two before I take away too
much bandwith from Chester and the other real experts.
I agree with just about everything others have said
about my "experiment", but please realize I am not
trying to entice River Forest housewives or
Northwestern Coeds into the business. I'm simply
trying to get the housewives from Forest Park and
Berwyn and the coeds from Triton, maybe UIC,
on board. There's a big gap between the crackheads
we all see, and north shore housewives, and its
this middle territory that I aim to develop. Eros
and other online call girl services are too unreliable,
and lack upfront ability to choose, so its back to
my little experiment in microeconomics. Maybe you'll
all build a statue to me someday! :)

Lady
05-31-02, 20:27
HappyG , You are lucky , That was more action that a thrill ride,But I agree it takes guts....but I wont scold you !! Although Devlin,s idea made me laugh, to those girls you were King for the night I just wish you would invest in some pepper spray just in case, How many would really consider meeting? the club thing it would be kinda cool, Stay safe guys Lady

JohnSmi108
05-31-02, 22:21
Googly, I dont mean to diss your experiment, but your "experiment" is starting to sound like a semi-escorting/pimping scenerio. Case in point, this Maria, who on her own would probably be happy to accept $20-$40 for a BJ. Now you come into the picture to convice her and her friends to jack up their prices. In the Chicago SW market, you've just priced them out of the market.

We're talking about the Chicago SW market here. You made a mistake with the $200 BJ. We've ALL made mistakes. Live and learn and move on. But it seems like you're rationalizing your mistake with an economic theory that's impractical to the Chicago SW market.

If you have read at least half of the posts here, you would've gotten an idea that in Chicago regarding SW's, the price for a BJ is around $20-$40 dictated by the competition and supply and demand.

Why even do your experiment?? When you can just refer Maria and her friends to the myriad escorts services here so that they can charge the higher rate that you feel they deserve and off the competitive streets.