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Soonday
Since the new and inproved board is up we lost all the old info. Who, other than Kay, did you say was good at the Rainbow.
Everyone else
If you have gone to the rainbow, give me your opinion on who is the best. I have only had Sue and Yoko. Please give me your opinions on them and others. Thanks
I would like to know about the "Rainbow" also. I haven't been up there in about 9 years. Never had F/S there during that time, so I stopped going. It is my understanding that F/S is now the norm.
Rainbow is far over rated, in my humble opinion.
Like you, I have not been there in about 4 years. I have had FS twice in the course of about 10 years when I was a monthly if not more frequent regular and before I discovered the better spas and became regularly disappointed with their service. Collegues assure me that FS is few and far between as Tisha (half owner) still enforces the HJ rule only- although Tisha, prior to being an owner, provided me with the only FS I ever got there. When ladies go further than that, they are violating some kind of wierd house rule.
You will find Maui just off of 108 much more oral service friendly.
Hana spa, in Elicott City is always FS but ladies sometimes less than young or attractive, although Connie provides some Greek for extra cash (rare in Korean Spas).
I take the hike usually to Waldorf where the selections are great and FS is ALWAYS on the table. IHC in DC is good, as they let you have the lineup, but the ladies rotate so fast, that you can not establish a relationship so the next visit can be less tenative, which generally the first visit is.
Anyway, I avoid Rainbow, just out of principle and the fact I understand they raised thier rates to $70 for an hour.
Go to Waldorf, Try T&M or Arikato.
Good Luck!
Way to go clix, Charles County has already been putting the pressure on down there. We need to be careful of what we post.
DrummerBoy
04-14-02, 00:46
Right on Clix, I have been to Rainbow Spa off an on for 9 years and left only because the girls I used to see and get FS left. I haven't gotten anything but HJ since. The girls are good looking but I can spend my money better elsewhere.
I been to Hana Spa and had great full service from Connie but never tried Greek. I always thought she had a great looking butt.... great oral skills and a little strange sometimes. I will be back for more as the image of her butt gets me going again!
I will have to try Maui sometimes. need directions though.
Hi again folks,
After posting yesterday I was browsing other boards to become aware of the issues in Charles County Legislature. ALthough this had been simmering for a couple of years, I guess they are now going to enact the license laws adopted by other counties (Montgomery and Howard), but I am not certain of this. I suspect the financially healthy spas may stay in business (send a couple of regulars to NJ for training & certification or the Baltimore School of Massage).
Either way, the bottom line is, one must self-regulate their own posts.
So folks, I will be careful with my posts and I hope everyone else is too.
Thanks
P.S. Maui is located as follows:
From the Shopping Center Rainbow is in, If you turn left (north)onto route one, go to 175. At 175 go west (left) toward Columbia; cross over Interstate 95 and get in the right lane. At the first stop light after the 95 is Route 108. Can only go right.
At the next stoplight Turn RIght (there is a Royal Farms store at the intersection). Go up that street and before the stop sign is another small strip mall. In the middle of it you will see a sign called Health Club. It is Maui.
Happy Hobby.
DrummerBoy
04-14-02, 21:03
Anybody have any experiences at Kyoto Spa? I've seen it advertised but haven't been there yet. Been to some of the others on a regular basis, but, would like to try out new (to me) AMPs.
Thanks Clix for directions to Maui
can someone please tell me if there are still sw's in Jessup near the Truck Stop off I-95. have been around there a few times but never saw any action at all. Thanx
DrummerBoy
04-29-02, 18:40
Just tried out Maui health spa in jessup.
It was a little hard finding the place as it sets back inside a strip mall/shopping center. I was greeted at the door by an old (upper 50's) mamasan that was dressed for the business if you know what I mean. She asked me if I been there before. I said no, but I have been to many of the local joints frequently. As I feared she turned out to be my masseuse, I was hoping for someone younger, but, she was nice to me so I thought to myself, "Oh what the Heck, lets see what happens".
She gave me a decent tableshower and massage. Told me to flip over and proceeded to give me a BBBJ. She did not ask for money or ask if I wanted it done. Just went to it. Turned out to be a good experience. I treated her "right" afterwards and she wanted me to return. I might someday as it still beat Rainbow Spa despite their younger ladies.
Thanks, Clix for the recomendation.
Mighty Spearsman
04-30-02, 16:24
Just for the record, I gave up on "Rainbow" years ago - overrated and overpriced. The place in Ellicott City is pretty good, though.
Originally posted by Liquid
can someone please tell me if there are still sw's in Jessup near the Truck Stop off I-95. have been around there a few times but never saw any action at all. Thanx
I have rarely ever seen street activity near the truckstop. Never experienced it either. I do know one lady who used to ply her trade there, but that was years ago when the bar was open. The owner is now sober and closed up the bar. Suspect most are on CB or such. Occasionally, I will see some in the car parking lot adjacent to the truck parking area having just finished up for the evening around 4AM. Nighttime is the only time they work there I do believe (too much potential for heat in the day).
I hear from sources in Baltimore that the ladies from Balt drive down there about 11pm and will go eat something in the restaurant or go to the store there first. Then start moving into the truck parking area and plying thier trade. They are there but rather discreet, I guess.
I too would like more information on this since it is very close to me.
I saw an archive post listing some good information a while back with names of some girls and the CB channel to listen too. Seems like a credible source of information to me.
Clix
Has anybody tried Lily spa on route one recently? How is the experience there? Thanks.
Lily SPa in Laurel -
Have not been there in a while (6-8) months.
Mamasan was actually a former Rainbow provider whose name(s) escapes me at the momen.
Some of ladies, obviously, are former Rainbow ladies too.
Usually similiar to Rainbow activities with limited finale of faux BJ with HR. Generally very good, but not FS.
Curtains on the doors and walls do not go to ceiling.....
Well it looks as if the Rainbow got busted. Went there yesterday and a sign was posted on the door stating that the business was closed by the Howard county chief of police, but would re-open this weekend. My question is that if you can't get fs there why would they close it down? So I drove down to Waldorf and went to the Waldorf spa. Long story short fs with Candy (about a 5 or 6) for 160 total.
Also I tried the Maui recently and I think you guys are a little off base on that one. Only working was mamasan and the location was weird. There where a bunch of kids all around for karate class and a bunch of teeny girls going to the tanning place. It weirded me out so I passed.
Louie_DePalma
06-12-02, 23:22
Hey Eskimo,
Did you get anymore details on the bust?
It just kills me that the County cops bustin' a fine establishment like Rainbow but let terrorists cool their heels at the Valencia Motel just down the road. Why go after bad guys when they can harrass hard working ladies and the men that enjoy deep tissue massages.
I bet some cop got caught in the Rainbow trying to get some free service. That is just like them.
In Maryland, you can rape, murder and rob so long as you don't speed to or from the scene of the crime. Cops care about the dumbest things. They ruin it for everyone...except criminals.
Originally posted by guardian
Need an unbiased opinion,any opinion...
I would like to post some questions--only serious responses please!
I am finalizing my Master Thesis, and these questions are essential for the content matter.
Master's Thesis in what and what school? Besides the thesis, what other applications could these responses be applied to?
Sounds to me like you are a married man questioning himself on whether to try a spa or not and what consequences you may fear.
1. Why would a married man decide to frequent a massage parlor or spa?
If you are finalizing your thesis, shouldn't these be the questions you formulated prior to starting it? One must have an objective prior to electing to proceed on a thesis....these questions seem to be the beginning point, not the end.
Heck, some wives go with thier husband for threesomes!
Response - Why? Why not? For me, I started long before I ever got married so perhaps I am not qualified to answer. Please note that I stopped for the duration of the "happy marriage" and returned upon cessation of same.
2. Once a person has crossed this line, does it become addictive?
The line? What line. please be more specific. Sex is sex, whether with a girlfriend or at a spa or with a one night stand or with a escort.
3.Once someone becomes a regular, and you ask for the same girl, does an emotional attachement to this person develope?
Can't speak for others, but I do know that I have developed freindships with ladies whose relationship with me started on the premise suggested. However, a regular lady does not necessarilly mean an emotional relationship develops with me. It means more often than not that I enjoy the time I spend on many levels.
4. Is it just sex, or is it more than that?
Charlie Sheen said it best - I don't pay for sex, I pay for them to leave. And in the whole scheme, it is cheaper than marrying.
5. Say a man strays because he is in a sexless marriage. If the other spouse suddenly gives in to his every desire, as well as his whenever desire, will the man cease going to the parlors?(Imagine the wife to be very beautiful)
Hypothetical. "suddenly" implies many things.
6. What would cause a man to not frequent these establishments after a period of years(aside from his spouse finding out)?
and finally........
7. What is the possibility of catching an STD from these establishments?
Thought I did once, but it turned out I got a yeast infection on my pecker from a girlfriend instead...
Spa ladies and escorts (and most hobbyists) are very careful and use protecton.
ANY INPUT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED....
even if you answer only one question!
THANK YOU!!!!!!
Clix????
drummerboy???
DrummerBoy
10-08-02, 18:34
I usually don't answer these survey questions but will anser a few questions reposted by Clix....
I usually like seeing the same SW at an establishment if she has a good attitude and has very good skills. Both of us become more comfortable and I certainly will get more fun for my money. You should not get too emotionally involved because they have there problems too otherwise they would not be working where they are. I believe in Charlie Sheen's quote below as well.
Addictive? Yes, I have heard some men have gone to the poor house dealing with this hobby. You got to keep it in perspective. I will find it hard to stop completely myself because how else can you get sex of this quality and variety? I experience GFE and PSE from some regular providers.
That's all for now...
Louie_DePalma
10-08-02, 23:26
These seem like resonable questions. So here is my contributions. Before I contribute. Here are my questions for the Masters Candidate :
1. Once this thesis is completed are you going to post it on the web somewhere.
2. Also, what class or major are you that are going to write about this topic. This is nothing like I ever took.
3. Did you do any field work? There is no substitute for first hand experience!
Your Questions
1. Why would a married man decide to frequent a massage parlor or spa?
It is an escape from day-to-day grind. It is as much about feeling relaxed as anything else. Regardless of the end game, we all want to a decent massage.
2. Once a person has crossed this line, does it become addictive?
It can be but no necessarily. People, themselves, exhibit addictive behavior.
3.Once someone becomes a regular, and you ask for the same girl, does an emotional attachement to this person develope?
Everybody is different. Some guys love the remote and have to flip through all the channels. For these guys, the next one may be the best the one. I, for one, prefer to visit the same provider and person. The reason for me is that I have a relationship with that person. We actually do talk about things outside of, "So you come here before?" This attachment is not emotional for me in the sense that I see a relationship blossoming. I view it strickly as a client-provider relation.
4. Is it just sex, or is it more than that?
See above. For me, it is about getting away for an hour. It is about a nice massage that relaxes me. If I get a shitty massage, the rest will be nice at best...never great. If I am relaxed, happy and satisfied, then sex may never have entered into the equation. As long as I got the value for my money, I am OK.
5. Say a man strays because he is in a sexless marriage. If the other spouse suddenly gives in to his every desire, as well as his whenever desire, will the man cease going to the parlors?(Imagine the wife to be very beautiful)
Highly hypothetical and misleading a question. Your question presupposes that a sexually permissive and beautiful wife will make a man happy. It assumes that sex is the primary motivation for fidelity. If that were true then why did Bill Joel dump CHRISTY BRINKLEY. David Justice was married to Haley Berry, he cheated. You saw SwordFish or sat through the Monster's Ball to see Haley Berry's breast. One word..BREATHTAKING. Her husband still cheated.
My answer, a man is going to go or not go to a parlor for HIS OWN reasons.
6. What would cause a man to not frequent these establishments after a period of years(aside from his spouse finding out)?
Two things: 1. LE and 2. Lack of Cash
7. What is the possibility of catching an STD from these establishments?
No clue. I never got one nor do I know anyone who ever did.
Yo,
In response to the researcher asking all the questions. I read most of the replies and noticed one small reason omitted (or at least I missed it). So, just in case you visit back to check the boards for further"research", I' ll post my reason for dipping outside the home:
I do not visit a provider for sex. I pay for the oppertunity of not having to hang around, just release and split. No strings attatched, see you - good bye, wham bam thank you mam
I do like the pampering of an AMP. I like the body bath were they scrub every inch of your body, I like getting my back rubbed lightly no deep tissue sh*t, and I like to lay back and let her do her thing. If it is understood that I'm going to receive what I paid for, then honestly, I love it if they don't even say a word.
That's just my thing.
The Wiz
num1amplover
10-10-02, 09:31
Kind of new to the amp scene, I've been to Rainbow, Alberto's, Lotus and Alberto's has been the best so far. Can anybody give me the name of some places with really nice looking women and maybe their names so I can get good service. Thanks
nr1amplover, Where is Alberto's? Did you get FS there? I have never had any luck at Rainbow for FS. If you want FS, go to DC, or to HWC in Woodbridge. Check some of the Northern Virginia postings for info on HWC. Traveler.
num1amplover
10-10-02, 21:06
To Traveler: I got FS from NaNa and Bj w/c from a girl named Miki.
num1amplover
10-10-02, 21:13
Alberto's Spa is located on Eastern Ave. I got the address from yahoo yellow pages
Thewiz : Thanks wiz. I appreciate your help!
DrummerBoy
10-14-02, 20:53
I would like to add another answer to Guardian's survey, probably the most important question that was posed(especially by a female-males usually don't ask that question, they already know the answer)!
Question 1. Why would a married man decide to frequent a massage parlor or spa?
There are many reasons some of which are:
------Wives who cannot take care of their husbands due to debilitating illness.
------Some men do not engage in sexual activities, just want to relax and talk because there is no one else who will listen. I have heard this countless times from providers....
------Wives who are indifferent to their husbands...
------Open Marriage....
------Husbands who will experiment with new ideas before trying them at home.
-----Spouses who "cutoff" frisky activities to punish husband for a variety of reasons. (This only means cutoff from wife)
-----husbands who runaround without reason....it is not always the Wife's fault.
This is in no particular order and I could list on and on....
quoted from drummerboy
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I would like to add another answer to Guardian's survey, probably the most important question that was posed(especially by a female-males usually don't ask that question, they already know the answer)!
Question 1. Why would a married man decide to frequent a massage parlor or spa?
drummerboy: Some very good reasons. Through my research, I have found various opinions from females(and males as well )regarding this subject. Of the women interviewed:
--Were happy their husbands had an outlet, just as long as they didn't bother them for sex.
--Felt that infidelity is infidelity regardless of the reason. Excuse me for being explicit, but one man said "that's what your hand is for".
--One woman who discovered her husband was frequenting an AMP felt that it was her fault because she basically denied him sex. It seems that after their baby was born her sex drive plummeted to zero. She has since gotten their marriage and sex life back on track, hoping this will put a stop to his hobby. The husband is not aware that she knows. Wife said if he goes to another AMP she will confront him with it.
--One woman was actually turned on by the fact that she discovered her husbands' hobby (again he is not aware she knows).
--Would leave their husband. No reason or excuse is acceptable.
--After discovering her husband frequented an AMP, (again husband is not aware wife knows) she decided that she would find one that serviced women (I don't know, do women do that?) and have him accidentally find out. You know--an eye for an eye.
--felt that if they (the wife) were the one with this hobby, the husband would flip out and leave them. Double standard??
Thanks drummerboy!!
Hunters, if you're looking for a Table Shower and just a HJ, then Rainbow can fill the bill. But why not go for the whole thing? AMPs are probably the cleanest places around as well as the girls who work there. Just use some cover. But you probably can't get FS at Rainbow. You really don't need to know too much. The girl usually guides you through the process. You just need to know the fees. $60 house fee for an hour. I have heard that Rainbow charges more. I haven't been there in years. But most are $60. Sometimes, they will do the HJ without asking for a specific amount. I would never pay more than $20-30 for a HJ. I am a FS man and go to those places that give FS. The AMPs are a good experince for the most part, but like anything, there are exceptions. Traveler
Hunters, AMPs are Asian Massage Parlors. Usually and most likely Korean. What I would love is a LMP. Latino Massage parlor, but I do not know of any. I am not Latino, but would love to bang a good latino lady. Traveler.
Ok, So I am new at this thing but I'm willing to learn. So what's the status of the rainbow spa and Lotus in Jessup? Has anyone gone there recently and gotten anything more than a HJ? If so what did you say or do to get the extras?
Any other place in the area that is recommended?
HaywoodJablomey
11-02-02, 08:59
I don't know about Lotus, have never gone there. You will not get more than a HJ at Rainbow unless you are "known". Building that sort of trust relationship with mamasan from scratch is an expensive and time-consuming project (esp for non-orientals). If you know a guy who can introduce you, enjoy the privileges of membership, but otherwise be happy with the nice massage and table shower. For FS, there are better options (e.g. SWs).
Happy Hunting!
num1amplover
11-07-02, 13:43
Has anyone tried NEW WORLD HEALTH PLACE? It's a neww listing in the city paper. How about RED SUN or Jasmine Flower? Also in the City Paper, they only offer outcall. Always looking for FS AMPS; let me know.
DrummerBoy
12-05-02, 15:35
Tried Kyoto Day Spa recently. Great facilities including a herbal steam room!
It was strange location because it is in with several other businesses with lots of women around. Employees seem to be happy and pleasant music is played to give a nice ambiance.
I was serviced by Sunny who is perhaps a 7 out of 10 in appearance (short but a pretty nice package)and I would have to say a 9 in attitude. She gave an exceptional shower not missing anything. Sunny gave a very good massage and was pleasant throughout and worked all the kinks out.
Extras was not offered, and I did not ask because I don't think it is offered here and I did not want to spoil the session if I was out of line. I definitely will come back when I need to.
Hey drummer ive been to kyoto before that sunny sounds like the one i had but she called herself sue. a tight little package. alot of extras are offered but fs is not among them. BBBJ/CBJ's are though if your into nibbiling, im not. the location is weird, its next to a yoga joint for pregnant chicks that freaked me out, but still went in all in all a 7 for massage and effort she was sweet.
lucien
Had a somewhat dispiriting experience at Lily's in Laurel. Didn't expect an orgy, of course, but somehow did expect a slightly more gratifying experience (which I've had at Oriental). Maybe it's because it was my first visit to Lily's. I fully get the rules, only wanted a rubdown and a nicely nuanced HJ. The young Korean girl was extremely pretty and had a No. 9 body (thin, in some kind of short green plastic go-go dress, beautiful legs) but did she have to chew bubble gum through the encounter? Snap, crackle, pop. Not exactly a mood-enhancer. For my part, I worked hard at being gentle, nonassertive, undemanding, appreciative and generous, but she had what I occasionally encounter in real world, the attractive woman's sense of utter superiority over those of us who ain't gonna win the Brad Pitt lookalike contest. She would give nothing, and I'm not talking sexual favor--she touched, she did job, she applied some energy and in fact we finished up with a nice little ka-boom--but it seemed to be a matter of honor to her to pretend to no pleasure on her part (I'm sure it didn't, but is it to much to hope that they fake it?). In fact, other than presence and a certain mechanical dexterity, she offered no friendliness and damned little eye contact, she subtextually informed me that she was so far above this and above me that it was physically repulsive to her. Thinking perhaps she was annoyed that I had not been complimentary enough to her exceptional beauty, at session's end, I leaned close to whisper warmly, "You are a very beautiful young woman." But she recoiled as if I were trying to stick a tongue in her ear. I don't think it was an issue of dough: i'd led off by giving her an extra $20 and made sure she saw that I had more in my wallet. If any more experienced hobbyists think that I made some sort of tactical error in the transaction, please give me your critique. Or do we just figure that I caught her on a bad day, maybe she'd had a jerk the day before or it was a certain part of the calendar and she was in a crabby mood? I guess I should head into the district and see what they offer in that big city.
Randy Farang
12-10-02, 11:56
Hunters, Lily's is like any fast food restaurant. Sometimes the food is cooked right and the special sauce is applied in just the right amount, and your meal is quite satisfing. Other times you go in and everything goes wrong. And there is't much you can do about it except go to another place next time. Your experience at Lily's is the classic example of the old saw, "You can lead a ***** to culture, but you can't make her think." If she doesn't realize that the most important eroginous zone is the one between your ears, she'll always be a bad provider. Randy
Hunter, Sometimes those pretty young things just don't get it. I think we all have experienced those kind before. When I run into a situation like that, I make it known what my desires are and if she doesn't come across, she gets a tip to match her performance. I also let them know what could have been. Traveler
Thanks to Randy and Traveler for astute analysis. Now, on to another crisis. In my search for yet more forms of degredation, I went to an AMP in downtown DC this a.m. Very good, by the way. But I broke my most rigid rule--the condom rule--and permitted a BBBJ. VERY good by the next way. My question: Hmmm, from a health standpoint was this foolish? Do boys routinely get a dose from such an experience? Naturally, my paranoia is going off like a five alarm firebell and I believe my dick is in danger of dropping off. But far worse, I may have some 'splaining to do to a certain unforgiving woman, and nobody should have to go through THAT!
Randy Farang
12-11-02, 20:19
Hunter, I'm not a doctor, I don't even play one on T.V., but based on experience and reading a lot of research, I suspect that your fears are generally over blown (pardon the pun!)
You might want to check the San Francisco board. They have had an ongoing discussion on this very topic for some time. You might also check the 1994-2000 Archives for the views of Jayhawke, (a VERY knowledgeable hobbiest who also just happens to be a research physician.)
Most of us have had the same experience, either premeditated, or the result of a failed condom. I know of no one who has hit big casino this way, but there are risks involved. Generally, you are far, far more at risk with a SW than you are in an AMP.
Randy
Hunters,
Did you happen to catch the name of that young girl at Lilys? She sounds like a tough nut to crack and I like a challenge. thanks
Originally posted by Hunters
Thanks to Randy and Traveler for astute analysis. Now, on to another crisis. In my search for yet more forms of degredation, I went to an AMP in downtown DC this a.m. Very good, by the way. But I broke my most rigid rule--the condom rule--and permitted a BBBJ. VERY good by the next way. My question: Hmmm, from a health standpoint was this foolish? Do boys routinely get a dose from such an experience? Naturally, my paranoia is going off like a five alarm firebell and I believe my dick is in danger of dropping off. But far worse, I may have some 'splaining to do to a certain unforgiving woman, and nobody should have to go through THAT!
Hunter, Personally, I wouldn't worry about a BBBJ. I get them frequently. While it is not impossible to catch something via a BBBJ, the chances are slim. The mouth does not provide the right environment for hosting the bad stuff. I would not, however, venture into that dark and damp orifice at the Y without a raincoat. Traveler.
DrummerBoy
01-24-03, 00:22
This thread has gone dead! no new posts in a month. This is hard to believe with the AMPS such as Rainbow, Hana, and Lily's spa are in the area. I guess everyone has gone to Gentlemen's Review.
HaywoodJablomey
03-16-03, 17:38
FWIW, I think it is simply because there isn't much new to say about the AMPs in the Jessup/Laurel area. If you're a chin (or built a relationship with mamasan over several years), you can get FS. If not, you can get a massage and a HJ.
That said, I have noticed some fresh faces at Lily's and Rainbow, though Rainbow consistently provides better-looking chix. I never bother with remembering names; rotation is too good (tho, Jay is *still* at Rainbow, BION).
DrummerBoy
03-25-03, 02:14
I agree that there isn't much new going on here. Some of the Rainbow chix have moved on to Jade Shiatzu in Ellicott City if you are looking. I heard that Yoko is still around, did not go off and get married again like the rumor mill said. FS is still offered at Hana Spa in Ellicott City with the usual lineup.
The best way to get it around here is like you said, build up a relationship with the owner. Then you can get all you can handle and then some! The inner circle is hard to attain, but once you are "in" you really are "in" just don't blow it.
What is the price breakdown at Hana Spa? 30 mins? 1 hr? What kind of tip is given? Any recommendations for girls at Hana?
DrummerBoy
04-23-03, 03:04
prices at Hana Spa is the standard elsewhere. You just have to look out for Sara (waif) who is quite old and tries to get double.
1 hr =$60
1/2 hr = $40
tips range and YMMV
HJ = $40
CBJ = $60-80
FS = $100
Anything else will be more unless you are a well known customer.
Connie is the best at all services at this site, and has been there for years. Once you have established yourself as a regular customer, you will find that she is pretty wild and fun. I think she has one of the best butts in the area but the rest is just so-so. Don't expect much on the first visit, they test you to see how you react. Check the past with this thread and you will see what I mean.
DrummerBoy
06-13-03, 23:19
Heard that state and local officials are after the spas again. heard Maui shutdown and other spas in Howard County on edge...
I checked out Hana spa a little while ago twice. I think I got that girl Sara you were talking about..although she called herself Kim. She was very tiny and left alot to be desired. The second girl was a little on the big side...don't remember her name...she was pretty cool. Still don't think I'll be making a third visit.
Crazy Dick
06-22-03, 23:27
Originally posted by drummerboy
Heard that state and local officials are after the spas again. heard Maui shutdown and other spas in Howard County on edge... Closing of the Maui IMHO was no big loss. I made the mistake of visiting Maui a few months back. Older provider average massage, and HJ. I wouldn't go back.
But I understand they have reopened under a new name "Star." I could be just a change in the name, but I hope it's a change in management and staff. If anyone visits there please post a report. I do hope they provide better service.
Thanks in advance,
Crazy Dick
Gentlemongers;
Went to Kyoto spa (off 108). Visited several times in the past, and enjoy the clean rooms. Paid the Mamasan the usual 60 clams; was sent to a room with Sissy (Ce Ce?). Table shower was fun, interspersed with laughs and broken english. Massage was way above average - would have paid a sports masseuse the $60 just for that. But wait... there's more...
FS with intro BBBJ was worth more than the $80.00 tip. Sissy didn't even look at the tip, didn't rush, and eithor enjoyed the session or acted well enough to make me feel manly.
30 years, about 10 pounds out of a size 8, typical round Korean face, about a 5-6 in looks; about an 8 in personality.
Anyway, hope this review helps you.
Blue skys and happy landings.
Well, Vegas, I just follow the basics as dictated by YNOT:L
"Have I been going to AMP's too long? Here are my symptoms:
I get a woody every time I see a neon "open" sign.
I think that law enforcement window decals mean I'm gonna get lucky.
I try to get on very good terms with older Korean women.
If I go somewhere new, I always insist that I've been there before.
When I empty my pockets at night, I always put my valuables in clear plastic zipper bags.
After I take a shower, my towel always "accidentally" falls down from around my waist.
Whenever I go to bed, I always lay on my stomach with my legs spread and Mr. Happy pointing down.
After sex, I always have a taste for starlight mints."
Seriously, Vegas, all I do is mostly common sense. My rules for the road are the same as most others posting here, or under the Baltimore, Richmond, or DC topics. Check out Easy 123 in Richmond, Fool 4 fish nets in DC, etc. I differ only in the
I have visited Kyoto Spa several times over the past few years. It was always a nice place to stop when traveling on 95. The cops have busted that place so many times over the past few years that I now just stay away. Hell if you're that hard up just turn on the CB and listen for the SW that hang out around the corner from the Truck Stop. $$ gets everything.. If that doesn't work you can always go down the street to the Jessup Womens Correction Center or the Howard County Jail and find a SW on work release who might do it for free or for a few cigs..
Motor -
I'm truly impressed with the idea of the work release pick up. Trashman would give it two thumbs up, and place it along with cruising Tim's motel for sloppy seconds.
Seriously, I like Kyoto. In about 15 visits, only 1 has been sub par. for me, this adds up to about a dozen diffewrent workers, as I like variety. I also like the area - an industrial park feels safer than a strip center.
I'm probably naive, but I never knew they had been busted. I've almost always had good or better service (1/2 & 1/2) for $60.00 plus reasonable tip.
Nat
Whoa, someone pour me a beer to douse these flames...
Hey Vegas; did you get the impression that I pissed in your picnic basket? Why the attitude?
I am sure that many people appreciate Kyoto, and get FS, or what ever. I am not bragging, merely reporting for the board.
Tell you what. It's time to visit an AMP. I'll send you a report after this weekend. As Bawlerz says, with name, activity, tip, etc. The girls at Kyotos are much like other AMPs - some are young, some are pretty, some are old, some are embittered. I'll endeavor to get you the name of a lady who you may enjoy.
By the way; why are amps a waste of time?
Nat
'Lets try this again...
Vegas, this post is the extended version of my last post.
My rules for AMPs are the same as most others, except that I do not place the tip on the table early. Other than that, the following suggestions are germaine;
1) Always act like you have been there before. If asked by the mamasan or doorkeeper, the answer is always yes, about two weeks ago. You saw Mimi, Penny, Sissy, or Yung.
2) Always take the $60.00 hour session. The $40.00 half hour session only insures clock watching in my experience. Besides, between the table shower (10 minutes), the massage (30 minutes) and the tip session (10 - 20 minutes) you will need the time.
3) If they offer a sauna, skip it. In my experience, this is a delay tactic which robs you of important time, or puts you on hold while they deal with other monger - hobbyists.
4) Go for the whole experience. Have fun. If you simply push for full service, you are missing out on a potentially great table shower and a massage. If you doubt me, try lying down on the shower table with your legs spread and your landing gear pointing down. Nine times out of ten your (if experienced) 'provider' will give you a lift that is as good as it gets.
5) You probably know, but if you hit AMPs often, go early. I try for Monday through Thursday before 1:30 pm. The ladies are not tired, and there is less rush than on a Friday after 3:30 pm when all the guys show up with their weekly pay in their hands.
6) Unlike Easy in Richmond (or DC) I do not recommend letting the tip talk for me. You should let the girl tell you when to turn over, etc. Almost all the times, if you are conversing with her with humor and respect (language barriers aside) she will ask you one of two questions. A) 'What you want, honeyboy?', or B) 'How much money you have, honeyboy?'. I always wait for the massage to figure out what I want. For me, if the girl is young, inexperienced, impatient, pushy about money, I may opt for the rub and tug only. Otherwise, I will usually choose the 1/2 and 1/2. On occasion, the girl will skip the questions and simply start with a CBJ or BBBJ to start. I go with the flow. (This depends on the house, because at Hana, Kyoto, and Moonlight the ladies ALWAYS leave the room to get a condom, if you select FS.)
7) Never over-tip. Let me repeat this. NEVER OVER-TIP. Depending on the area, I will tip $20.00 for the rub and tug, $40.00 to $60.00 for verbal discussions, and $60.00, $80.00, or $100.00 for any spa treatment that ends in FS or Greek. Again, areas differ. New York City is on the high end. Baltimore is on the low end. D.C. and Waldorf are middle to high in price.
8) Life is short. Go for variety. Try all the acceptable girls in a shop, and try all the shops. Some days you may be disappointed. So what - just wipe them off your list. Towson Spa was a regular shower and a matter of fact massage with no hint of extended services. SCRATCH. Almost Paradise was similar, but I may try again because another monger posted success and pleasure. And remember, for every Towson, there are three Moonlights, Kyotos, and Hanas.
9) I don't know why other posters may not get FS if they want it. I'm not special. I try to appear the typical balding overweight American with a repressed sex life, - thats what I try to non verbally express at the door. This is the AMPs bread and butter. Inside, I talk with the girls, ask them how long they have been here, compare long work hours, listen to stories about their children. I also direct them on how hard the massage should be, how special if feels to hit the rim when kissing my balls, etc. Remember, these ladies are human. They know why you are there, and why they are there. Relax, and let them do their job. If they relax to, you win.
10) If you find a special girl in a specific spa, go to her often. These ladies are short timers - most seem to stay 60 days to six months, and you should grab for the pleasure while it exists.
11) Talk to the mamasan if necessary. Specifically if service was rushed or incomplete, let her know. In June I hit Jessup (you know the one - north of 175 on Rt 1) and got a girl who was a clock watcher, and who thought an hour was 40 minutes. After the rub and tug, I tipped her on the low end (you ALWAYS tip, but you determine the appropriate amount) and told her to get the mamasan. I told the mamasan that I was unhappy about the rush job (true) and that I have visited every 2 weeks for 4 1/2 years (lie) and that I was disappointed with the service this time. We agreed that I would come back two days later, and I received a two girl finish for my $60.00 (plus double tips of $80.00) for about 90 minutes and 2 pops. I'll be back.
This post has turned out to be longer than I expected. Hope it helps.
Blue skys and happy landings...
Gnat'
HaywoodJablomey
08-05-03, 16:32
Nice posts, Nat Zass.
Was bored a while back, and hit the Lotus Shiatsu place in Jessup, right at the Rte 1 / Rte 175 intersection. I've driven by the place 1000 times, always wondered if there was anything there.
Ack, I shoulda kept driving. Massage was decent, but the provider was not attractive (I didn't even let her do a HJ). I saw a few other women there, and they were no better. Whether or not they offer FS is a moot point; they have really ugly women.
Other than that, not much going on lately, just the occasional Balmer BJ now and then (e.g. Wilkens loop, PP).
Happy Hunting!
Great post Nat Zass on AMPs. I have seen a few other people go down the list of does/don'ts, yours certainly is one of the best. Rookies would do well to read your post several times before venturing into an AMP.
While I am not an avid AMP goer, I do participate every so often and like most have learned some things the hard way which can be expensive, time consuming and unrewarding, especially when Mr. Johnson is screeming for some release.
Great post Nat Zass, and as a seasoned AMP aficionando, I agree with all of your recommendations. Now a question for you, or anyone else out there:
In most (_all_ that I can think of) AMPs, the girls keep a little empty purse in the room, often hanging on the coathook in full view. What the @#$# is that for?
I have wondered if they expect tips to be left in there, but I have always left the tip on the little table that's obviously for that purpose. I've never seen a girl touch that little empty purse.
Enquiring minds want to know.
Amp Meter
Jessup Board, sorry to intrude where I usually don't play, but I do read, and this thread is starting to get uglier than many of the providers... See my posts in DC...
Originally posted by Jony Vegas
that you are fat and balding and that's why you would not be successful getting women my way...
[snip]
Enjoy your fantasy world or paying the big bucks for ugly women... JV,
Dude, you made some points about provider quality and how much it may take to get FS at a rub and tug joint, but maybe you should lighten up on Nats... 1. As far as his FS session, you weren't there, and he sure as hell isn't hyping his ego given his self description, so why question the report? AMP girls can fuck whomever they choose if they want. Yep, he was probably lucky for that AMP, but to conclude he is lying is not justifiable. 2. No reason to get personal because a guy is truthful about his physique. It really doesn't help the board to read about how you get freebies from non working girls because you are the GQ kind of guy. Nobody cares about that shit if that is not an option for them.
Nat, Your last post was excellent, good reading. Good rules that are not as obvious as your detractor would lead us to believe, if a reader takes them to heart, he will score a higher rate of FS than average... and so here's your beer, Zass.
-Peace
LoveLOS
Just a born and bred Baltimoron's $0.02 on Vegas' post:
Quote by Jony Vegas "I spend maybe $40-50 a month my way and am able to score one nighters or more if I want with normal everyday attractive women (or at least as good as Balt has to offer)."
JV, if Baltimore's women and it's sex industry scene are so far below your standards the please do the rest of us a favor and get the F@#K OUT OF TOWN and move to one of your prefered cities!
Cassidy
Hugh Jardon
08-06-03, 09:56
I, too, liked Nat's list of do's and don'ts at an AMP.
I wouldn't say that all Baltimore AMPs have ugly women unless you think Asians are inherently ugly. To me, some are ugly, some are okay, and some are knockouts. The spa at Rt 1 + 175 does have some beasts. So does the one in Elkridge. But, further down Rt 1, Rainbow and Lily's mostly have some real pretty women. To each his own, but I wouldn't say Baltimore's AMP women quality is any different than anywhere else. I frequent DC and have been to Atlanta and Philly parlors.
Vegas: Wow - some attitude! Color me impressed. Allow me to share some poignant info.
First, there must be sixty to two hundred regulars at Kyoto Spa. The fact that of these, only baby boomer and I have reported fs in the last month on this board doesn't mean that do one else gets the bada-bing treatment.
Second, whether I am bald, fat, or ugly should not affect you, unless I am paying you a jackson to blow me. As I suspect you wouldn't be worth it, don't sweat it.
Third, you should kick back and enjoy this board. No one (myself included) is here to one-up any one else, as you can see by the comments by others. For the most part, the guys on this board are sharing experiences because it's fun to post, and we like to exchange helpful info on who to pick up and who not to see. I am not here to prove myself to you. You don't have to go on the offensive to prove your self to me, or anyone else.
Forth, if I wanted to flame some hairy vaginal blood fart such as yourself, I would. But it gets me no points in my book (or in anyone elses), and the effort would be a waste.
Finally, I recommend you review the B'more board, particularily a monger named jrs video. He, too, was ignorant of how best to utilize this board. He also was flamed for acting like an asshole. What did he do? He sucked it up, apologized to the board, did his homework, and began to give what turned out to be good reports. I (and others) look forward to his exploits.
So, Jony, think about it. You can keep looking at your reflection in the toilet water, or you can be constructive. You too can have opinions that people on this board value.
Blue skys and happy landings,
Nat
Oh, and by the way; Hugh, LoveLOS, Cassidy, Paland, Haywood. Thanks. S'okey, not to worry, my manhood is intact. (Yep; just checked. Still there.)
In the meantime, stay safe and good hunting.
Nat
DrummerBoy
08-06-03, 19:09
I cannot believe the flaming going on in this thread. It is obvious that Vegas has a problem here...
Nat's do's and don'ts are good for the new mongers and should save some time and money instead of re-inventing the wheel. I have not had any difficulty getting the total deal at any Baltimore area spa except for Lily Spa in Laurel. The Spa owner's are not comfortable with all the attention by LE and only the VIP crowd favored by the Owner's get all they can handle.
I agree that many of the SW are on the older side, but, that is because they have to have a current State or Nationwide massage license. A lot of the younger sw's have not accumulated the time yet and move on too frequently. If you are not happy here, go somewhere else. I have been to Philly, San Fran., Michigan, Conn, NYC etc.. and had a great time here as well as there.
Play safe and kind!
Connaisseur
08-07-03, 14:31
I enjoyed your report, Nat, and as a dedicated AMPer, I can only agree with your comments. Actually, Baltimore AMPs are pretty good, putting matters in perspective.
Lately, I have had great times at the place on York Rd. in Timonium, the Charles Str. "Healthy Center", Moonlight and Garden Lucky in Pikesville (although my favorite provider there, Lisa, seemed to have moved to the AMP on Harford Rd.).
Personally, I'd stay away from Pinetree and Alberto's. I haven't tried Jade HC, New Century, and Almost Paradise.
Towson Spa is a bit out of the odrdinary in the sense that the providers there are older (I have only seen the same 2 within the last 3 yrs), but they do a VERY good massage, and have developed a unique technique for a grand (HJ) finale, which I treat myself to once in a while.
Generally, you don't even have to be a regular to receive everything you want, as long as you appear somewhat decent and engage in leisurely conversation with the girls. You need to earn their trust, that's all there is to it. In fact, it's not even easy to become a regular anywhere around here, since the joints open and close all the time, and the staff switches constantly.
Jony Vegas -
Calm down, there is absolutely no need to flame individuals and everyone on this Maryland board.
This ain't Brazil, Costa Rica (funny how after one trip you became a seasoned veteran), and it definitely ain't the Land of Smiles.
This is Maryland with an omnipresent feeling that LE is watching this board and where some prized spas recently had a significant reduction in number.
There is much to glean from other posters here, but not necessarily on the board proper. I suspect you are not going to get much backchannel information given the tone of your current postings (plural, not singular) to the Maryland Board.
Some humility in your writings serves most people well.
There are always people out there who have knowledge that one does not, but it will not be shared if flamed or offended.
Having said that, I have seen many folks with that "posting attitude" simply reply with more flames......so - My current feeling is that I would be glad to give you a road map because I too can not wait for you to leave given the tone and attacks on all.
Well, I just got back from visiting the "mother ship" (Korea) for the last 10 months. I was at both Iteawon and Song Ta. For those of us who like Korean women this is our Mecca. Every night I sleep with my head pointing toward Hooker Hill in Iteawon.
I come back and find the Maryland board a place for frustrated flamers. Damn Johnny V, calm the hell down. I read the posting for the last month or so and we are spending way too much time dealing with your issues and not on what is going on in the area.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and experiences without being called on them. If he got FS at Kyoto then good for him. If I go to Kyoto and not get FS then so be it. You started off talking in a respectful and helpful manner then suddenly made a left turn into idiotville.
Chill out, these are just massage parlors for Christ's sake!
Anyway, since I came back I have been to:
#1 Rainbow-Jessup: Kay is on disability leave(carpul tunnel) (you would be surprised how many girls suffer from this. I guess the constant wrist action takes it 's toll) Miki gone. Place has gone to $70.00 hr. Has lost a lot of girls and really is not worth the trip. Girls there are more show than go.
#2 Lotus-Jessup: Met a nice girl named Cece, new girl, after a little finger play she moved onto me and without saying a word slid me into her and she came in about 2 minutes. Pretty cool since it was so unexpected.
#3 Jade Shitasu-Ellicott City: Miki from Rainbow is there! Some of the "more experienced" girls are FS. A lot of girls from the Montgomery Co. spas. This place has move up to list for me. I also heard that since the Waldorf area spas have been leveled the girls will be filtering through our area so be on the lookout since there will be new talent.
It is good to be back and I will post more of my trips soon. Until then, everyone keep safe, keep posting and keep respecting each other on the board and their comments. I wish you all unlimited "hop-she-da's".
Either someone needs his nap or he just doesn't play well others...
It is REALLY funny to see someone go on and on about how smart they are and how dumb everyone else is when they don't even know simple grammar and spelling rules.
For those of you who haven't graduated high school (Vegas): "Your" refers to something belonging to someone, the word you are looking for is "you're" which is a contraction meaning "you are."
Incorrect--"anyone who has ever read Cancun thread knows your a loser and a liar"
Correct--"LoveLOS but keep your hands to yourself"
Incorrect--"The prblem is your all to narrow sighted to open your minds and explore it"
Incorrect (twice, and enjoy the irony that is evident in a statement like this being full of mistakes)--"If your to stupid to ask when the carrot is gangling in front of your nose, then your too stupid to be successful at my avenue"
A few other examples of Vegas's brilliance:
taking whats said
easy to sopt becasue they always
that we all houd know verywell
The prblem is your all to narrow sighted
you lead patheitc lives
no one was samrt enough
I for one am glad that with my IQ of less than 75 and my ignorance I can at least communicate better than some morons.
Originally posted by Jony Vegas
Couple of points!!
Heavy, bald and ugly guys could do what I do with normal women as many other guys in the area are doing..I know. LoveLOS, I am better than you because I have concrete prrok and a different avenue to get women. The prblem is your all to narrow sighted to open your minds and explore it. Hell I put a carrot out there that not even one of you bit at. My alternative, less expensive and easy avenue to get women at much less cost shall stay with me ...well and the other hundred guys who are doing it also.
This only reinforces how ignorant you all are. You would rather argue about things versus asking how you can get in on the sweet actino. This just proves your ignorance and why you lead patheitc lives and overpay for HJ's.
Since no one was samrt enough to ask me how I and hundreds like do it I am not telling. If your to stupid to ask when the carrot is gangling in front of your nose, then your too stupid to be successful at my avenue.
Thought maybe I would add a couple other possibles for dickhead's tude.....
Sounds like someone is trying to sell something.
Missed his medication again.
Working on his Dale Carnegie presentation.
Trying to out do his previous rant.
Originally posted by Jony Vegas
This only reinforces how ignorant you all are. You would rather argue about things versus asking how you can get in on the sweet actino. This just proves your ignorance and why you lead patheitc lives and overpay for HJ's.
Since no one was samrt enough to ask me how I and hundreds like do it I am not telling. If your to stupid to ask when the carrot is gangling in front of your nose, then your too stupid to be successful at my avenue.
Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes
I am so smart! I am so smart! S-m-r-t! I mean, s-m-a-r-t!
Homer Simpson 1999
Guess I didn't follow up to get in on the sweet actino because I don't like gangling carrots or people who type "your" when they mean "you're".
Jony Vegas
08-08-03, 13:10
OK I did my own reconnaissance mission. This morning I went to Kyotos to find out for myself.
I arrived at 9am and they weren't quite ready yet, they were vaccuming and cleaning and stuff and asked me to come back in 30 minutes. So I went and ate some breakfast and when I returned the same woman greeted me at the door. I paid her the $60 1 hour fee and was led to a typical, yet small room.
After having disrobed, a woman (she went by cece or pepsi, couldn't make it out for sure and didn't want to ask her again) who I would rate a 5 entered and greeted me with a big smile. She instructed me to go to the sauna (hot steam room), but I told here I don't care for those. She excused hereself and came back in 3 or 4 minutes and then led me to the shower room.
She had me lay down on my stomach as she poured warm water on my and proceeded to scrub me from head to toe. Then she had me turn over as she repeated the process. When she got to my willy she soaped it down and gave it an extra nice rub, to which a let out a nice long...mmmmmmmmmmm.
Once we were finished, she dried me off with my towel, looked down the hall to make sure no one else was coming and led me back to the room where she had me lay down on my stomach first.
She began to massage me as we engaged in some chit chat as she thought of some way to bring up the subject of the Ben Franklin I had conveniently layed out on the small night stand next to the bed. When she got done rubbing my back she began brushing her hand soflty up and down my but and bewtween my legs to slightly touch my boys, as I exhaled some...mmmmmmmms.
She asked me to turn over, at which time she looked and noticed me at half mast and exclaimed...wow! She rubbed my arms legs, chest, fingers and toes, inlcuding the pooping of them that they always do. While she was in arms reach I rubbed her leg and moved my hand up her dress and rubbed her butt as she massaged me. I moved my hand between her legs and slid my hand up against her pelvis and could feel the heat between her legs.
She then abruptly asked what that was for..motioning to my friend Ben. I told her that it was for her if she was good to me. She asked if I wanted "special" to which I repled of course. In the process of this she had been moving her hand over my jewels with a soft touch.
She grabbed Ben and said she would be back in a minute. Well after 3 minutes that seemd like eternity, she returned and proceeded with a HJ as I rubbed her tits and ass. Then she began a BBBJ while stroking as i continued to fondle her breasts. Before I knew it I was at full salute and without any delay, she slid a condom on me with her mouth (since she never got up I figured she was Houdini since I had not seen a condom). Once fully on she stood up and I told her I wanted her to take it all off, which she did. I layed there so she would get on top of me and she squatted down on top of me sliding me right in and began to ride me.
After a few minutes of this, I told her I wanted to be on top, so we changed positions and I began to bang her making more and more noise. She panicked and told me to (shhhhhhhh) be quiet, so I wrapped my arsms around her, buried my face into the pillow, felt her breasts rubbing against me as I banged her as hard and deep as I could when I then exploded inside her.
I sat up and she removed the condom and began to wipe me down with a hand towel. We chatted for a few minutes, then I got dressed while she left for a minute. When she returned and made sure no one was in the hall, she escorted me out and said come see her again.
She was a bit plump, in her 30s and ok looking in the face, and had a decent attitude.
Monkeyspnkr
08-08-03, 16:37
exercizing my ounce of intelligence by 1) dropping Jony Picknose into my ignore list, and 2) dropping Jackson a note to punt his conceited, attention-starved little membership into never-neverland. (later: note to Jackson posted.)
Originally posted by HazlEyes
exercizing my ounce of intelligence by 1) dropping Jony Picknose into my ignore list, and 2) dropping Jackson a note to punt his conceited, attention-starved little membership into never-neverland. (later: note to Jackson posted.)
HazlEyes.......I like you logic and action. There is not a glimmer of opportunity in carrying on a discussion with jony vegas.
Playland & Hazl,
I too posted a note to Jackson to have the flames, informing us that we are all stupid or ignorant fools, removed from the board. Being chastised by Jackson does tend to chill the flame wars. This post represents my last attempt at civil communication with Joni.
Joni Veggie,
First, dont be offended about my messing with your handle. I screw with everybody's handle, had you not posted that last report, I may have considered a somewhat cruder version and this post would have ended with the second sentence. If you can keep from getting your panties in a ruffle while reading this, and continue to share relevent information on this forum, you can be a hero rather than to occupant of an "ignore list."
Thank you for that excellent report about following a fellow monger's lead an getting the same results. Reports like that are what every one of us is looking for! Isn't that fuck better than telling everybody that Nat'sass is a lying loser? I think an apology and thank you to that gentleman would be seen as a gesture of goodwill
Last thing is about careful reading. Both of us are guilty:
LoveLOS - Well anyone who has ever read Cancun thread knows your a loser and a liar....enough said there!! See, the liars are easy to sopt becasue they always don't want to share certain important and relevant points. I have not been to Cancun, I was supporting WORD (another senior member with 200+ posts), so it is difficult to have lied... WORD had given some intriguing information about how to get laid there on the cheap. He had been flamed for how he presented the info (a bit cocky - which turned 2-3 others off), but I did see the intel was plausable and wanted more details. If you would have read carefully, you would have seen I made no claims the trick would work, but I damn sure will try it when I go there...
LoveLOS, I am better than you because I have concrete prrok and a different avenue to get women. The prblem is your all to narrow sighted to open your minds and explore it. Hell I put a carrot out there that not even one of you bit at. OK, I didn't read you well enough. Now I am biting, if your method is not just for the good looking guy, then that too is info we are all seeking. I am asking you to share certain important and relevant points on how your "avenue" to getting laid on the cheap is executed.
This forum is here "to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. " I for one wish to get back on that subject.
LoveLOS
Note to anyone reading this board who cannot figure out what is going on: Jackson has apparently done his magic and cleaned up the posts that represented flames with no relevent information. For that I thank him. A review of the South America > Brazil > Rio de Janeiro board, today's date, will clarify the position of the site administrator with respect to this matter.
Vegez, I realize you are now busted down to a regular member status and so your postings are delayed, so I hope the removal of your previous posts and the reprimand from Jackson that you were out of line will remind you to keep your communications civil on these boards.
And lastly, please post that intel about the carrot you were dangleing...
Peace
LoveLOS
LuvLeZZ and HazlEyes......Kudos to you. Well stated and handled. There are times that someone(s) needs to step up and provide some clarity, purpose and reasoning on why we are all here. And you did. Thank You.
TwistedBrother
08-09-03, 17:23
Good job, you people. That flaming was truly BS and far away from the spirit of these boards.
Wow. I am energized. Hey Jony- congrats! No one on this board has caused such a rush of postings. These guys have truly responded to your suave genteel manner. Guys, I am proud and humbled to be among club members who will reach down into the gutter and help a wayward soul. Jackson - as I said before - your world, your rules. Thanks.
Seriously, folks, time to get back to our jobs and report on our successes and failures. Jony - I am happy for you that you got your fs at kyoto. My report will follow. Until then,
Blue skys and happy landings...
Nat
Originally posted by soonday
#2 Lotus-Jessup: Met a nice girl named Cece, new girl, after a little finger play she moved onto me and without saying a word slid me into her and she came in about 2 minutes. Pretty cool since it was so unexpected.Hmmmmmmm, Downtown Spa in DC just lost a CiCi kind of suddely and a month before she planned to return to Korea. Ask about a Mimi, as they were friends and both were hot & then were suddenly gone.
LoveLOS
LoveLos,
The CeCe girl was maybe 5'3" to 5'4" and about 110 to 115 lbs. (Hell, aren't they all!) Pretty nice with traditional face and hair, 34C's and nice legs. Nothing different about her to help describe her to you. Maybe she was in D.C. before? Since the Lotus mamasan frowns on the girls going that extra mile, I would think that the girl was just scratching an itch.
It seemed to me, a veteran of 10 years of the spa wars, it was very spontaneous of her. No financial discussion before or after!
My next trip out will be this weekend. I will get the intel on her and see if a Mimi rings a bell with her. I will let you know.
Also board, I am looking for a girl that was in the area awhile ago. Her name is Minnie, Korean, long hair down to her ass about 5'2" enhanced C cups and a real man-eater. Anyone know where she ended up? Worked at Rainbow and a place in Columbia a few years ago. Thanks for any info on this POA.
Thanks for the leads and happy hunting.
Just bouncing around and noted Jony's new designation -- "former member" Life is good. LoveLOS
DrummerBoy
08-19-03, 00:24
I agree with Lovelos's comments in regards to Jony's new status. He was the worst flammer I ever seen on these boards. But, I found out he has another designation: "Persona non gratis" (I hope I said it right) at several spas in the surrounding counties.
He made a big mistake. He assumed that the spa owners didn't monitor the boards and admitted he came early to Kyoto so they got him on their security tape (he came at 9am, they open at 10)
and were able to ID him and spread it around...and boy, were they pissed! The old adage "don't bite the hand that feeds you" kind of applies here.
Concerning Jony V,
A search of his last posts on this board shows he posted the same message on numerous boards bitching about what should be posted and then tried to engage Jackson in an arguement.....guess who won that one....
Sorry to see anyone go off like that actually.
We all make mistakes, I know I have, by writing things in a reactionary state of mind.
Concerning his status at the spas, it makes sense. "Don't bite the hand that feeds ya is somewhat appropriate." However, I too did something messed up like that many years ago at a spa I no longer frequent and posted about it bashing the spa. I thought I picked up something from there (HPV aka genital warts) and was convinced for over a year I was right. Dick was discolored and goofy looking and even the doctor's medication did not fix it. A year later only to find out I was wrong by a "new doctor" (shit, I didn't know men got yeast infections on thier pecker!)
Thus, the posts I made against that spa were unjust, but the damage was done and you can't take it back. I know I am person non gratia at that spa to this date (via other spa ladies who know or used to work for the lady/spa I pissed off, and the circumstances let me know). Funny feeling- Several times I thought I was with a new girl or someone who looked familiar but did not recall and them telling me about me and her and how much she tried to blacklist me at other spas, but to no avail......cause money does talk!....
Just thought I would provide a ramble....
Jony V may come around to realizing his mistakes and communicate effictively so exchange of information is beneficial, but not necessarly on his terms, but on the boards terms.
Later
Now I know where I saw Jony V before. He was the Grand Prize Winner at the Capitol Region Spelling Bee Contest !
I join in the Kudos for LovLos and HazlEyes.
DrummerBoy
08-19-03, 16:09
Clix,,you said it all man. I always liked your reports. We all learned in different ways. It took me awhile and eventually a provider in Philly taught me the ropes and saved me piles of moolah. This was before boards like these were available...
Yes, of course I am happy to see the ass end of Jony, especially since I was the token flamee of this board. I did note that I was in good company, since he flamed far and wide.
I have to say that I love this board. While I enjoy the normal posts, I find this board's reactions to the abnormally hot posts great. Good humor was shown, good writing was offered, good commentary was shared.
However, I suggest we bid the good sir Vegas a fond 'AMF" and move on to the best part of the board, which regards finding women and getting laid.
Blue skys and happy landings to all...
Gnat.
Originally posted by Nat Zass
However, I suggest we bid the good sir Vegas a fond 'AMF" and move on to the best part of the board, which regards finding women and getting laid.
Gnat.
Well put.
Delamancha
08-22-03, 21:51
I found myself at Rainbow Spa today, quite by accident. A van crashed into a telephone pole on Rt. 1, putting several blocks in the dark, including the entire Lotus Shiatsu shopping center. Lotus has been my spa of choice for years. Even though it's usually just rub and tug, the girls at Lotus have almost always been friendly and engaged, and the occassional time extras are available it's a nice treat. Anyway, I'd rather spent an hour flirting and laughing finished with HJ than grim-faced FS.
Anyway, down the road I went to Rainbow. The attendant was Mae, and the doorbell was ringing of the hook -- Friday afternoon and the in her 30s with large, probably fake breasts. The door fee is up to $70. Mae's massage was decent but not great, and before the flip she undressed without prompting, and let me finger her.
Finished the job by hand -- no negotiation or indication that anything else was on the menu. It was a nice time but nothing special -- next time I'm in town I'll still stop at Lotus first.
I have been out of town for the past 4 months on business. I return only to find Waldorf is shut down. So I thought I will go to the old stand by, the Rainbow, when I get there I am told that all my favorites ( Mickey, Yoko and Anna ) are on vacation which we all know is code for they no longer work here. I get some lame girl named sara who wouldn't shut up and kept giving me the "you so sexy" fake BS. My question is What the @#$! happened to my favorite ladies and where is the action these days. Truthfully I am more pissed about Waldorf being shut down, that area used to be the shiz-nit. Back in the hay days of the Sunny slide and all the others fantastic AMPS.
Eskimo,
Welcome back. I too had been out of the area for a while.
Miki is now at Jade Shitasu in Ellicott City. The old mamasan, Miki and I think another girl moved over to that shop.
The new Rainbow totally blows. Chanel with her big yo-bongs and Kay are there but the other units are total BS peddlers who think you just fell off the kimchi truck.
Hana is still a homerun. The problem is sloppy 35ths.
Moonlight is getting alot better and Kyoto in Columbia seems to have a new and improved attitude.
Read the past posts on Waldorf. Jesus, those uptight, missionary positon, with the lights off and only to get pregnant power brokers in the county went into the spas like Sherman went through Atlanta! When will this country come into this century with the understanding that there will always be this type of business around. Leave it the F alone. Concentrate on getting my taxes down and fixing the God-damn pot holes in front of my house!
Welcome back and good hunting.
DrummerBoy
08-30-03, 09:52
yoko is now at Kyoto spa in Columbia going by the name Sasha. I guess she had enough working for her Aunt. The others are long gone. I don't go to Rainbow anymore because it is overpriced for this area.
Crazy Dick
09-02-03, 22:22
OK Guys,
I know things are tough in Howard County. But this is a little to much. See the following from the Post Howard County Crime Report data 8/28.
INDECENT EXPOSURE
LITTLE PATUXENT PKWY., 10700 block, 2:45 p.m. Aug. 14. A male customer at a spa business exposed himself to an employee after the employee had given him a back massage.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53426-2003Aug27.html
Thought it was good for a laugh.
Crazy Dick
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yoko is now at Kyoto spa in Columbia going by the name Sasha. I guess she had enough working for her Aunt. The others are long gone. I don't go to Rainbow anymore because it is overpriced for this area.
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Do you know if that's Sasha or Shasha? Regardless, had two appointments with her in the last month. Had a lovely time, but I think she could work harder on the massage part, and spend a little more time in the shower. She is cute, though - thin, but not too much, long wavy hair. After the shower and nude massage, she flipped me over and sat on my face for a while. Then we switched positions and I ate some more - she seemed to like it. Didn't do the FS, perhaps that was because of the 4 jacksons instead of 5 - but was close enough for me. After massage is a nice touch.
Ready to go back - now if I can only find that stack of bills :-)
FD
Gentlemen:
Could someone please give me address or location of the “Kyoto” in Columbia, and “Jade Shiatsu” in Ellicott City?
Also, can you tell me what to expect there: FS or not? and about how much to expect to spend ?
Thanks,
FSM
Soonday
By Hana, do you mean a provider at the rainbow named hana or do you mean the hana spa. Thanks for the info soonday and drummerboy.
Eskimo,
I meant Hana Spa in Ellicott City.
To my fellow board members,
Has anyone seen or heard about Yung (Angie) who was at Hana's (circa 98-01)? I first met her when whe worked at the spa on Rt 1 in Elkridge then when she was at the old Rose Spa on Dorsey Road. That place was run by Kay who now runs the spa at 175 and 1. I heard Yung got married and left the business. What a little hottie that was! You could bounce quarters of that stomach.
I would like to pose a question to the board. Say you had just one last chance to go to a spa. Knowing that this trip will be the last time your feet hit a steam and cream. What spa and what provider would it be? I think that the responses will give us all a good "all star" list.
P.S. I wonder if the dude with the indecent exposure problem in Columbia was our old buddy Johnny V. having one last flame out!
Thanks for you time, wishing all of you unlimited hop-she-da's!
"All Star List" Honestly, if you want a good AMP experience you have to go to York, PA. I have tried Oriental, Rainbow, and Hana Spas. You have to spend way too much money to get known in these places before anything more than a HJ. At least that's what I hear, I have gone to these places several times and gotten nothing more than a HJ. In PA, it's a whole different story...first visit, you get what you want as long as you tip right. Every girl I've seen in the PA spas have been very attractive and very friendly with half way decent massages. Trust me...go to York. Tokyo or Yoko Spa.
DrummerBoy
09-30-03, 19:34
I don't need to go to York, PA. I have a great time right here. If I need more, I just go to DC which has younger women that is pretty much uninhibited.
Great time as in FS? Never gone to DC for anything can't comment on there.
DrummerBoy
10-05-03, 00:05
Yes, check my earlier posts.
Ustrongman
10-28-03, 06:49
The AMP in Elkridge has always been my favorite in Maryland. Can anyone tell me why there are no doors on the rooms like in Virginia, probably a damn law? The Kyoto in Columbia is very good, especially since the attitude change there. If Sandy was still working there, I'd be a regular again. Last time I saw Sandy(great natural tits), it was about 2 years ago at the Kyoto. Does anyone know where she is now, please?
Thanks
DrummerBoy
10-31-03, 15:44
I was told that she was fired for giving too good a time as reported on some bulletin boards!
As for the curtains, I believe it is a MD law because they all have them. I will ask when I get a chance.
"As for the curtains, I believe it is a MD law because they all have them. I will ask when I get a chance."
Sorry - not true. All spas in Maryland do not have curtains.
Many former and current spas in Charles and Montgomery County had/have doors.
Curtains are used for a multitude of reasons....ever watch how the curtains are secured at each juncture of a visit? When empty, often left open or with a particular half open with the clip set a certain way.....when you go in, the mamasan closes with a particular "twist" of the closure device. Girl comes in - takes you to shower, she closes it with another method indicating occupied, but in shower......finally, when back in room closure method is secure indicating room is occupied....
All closure methods are signals known to the workers as viewed from the outside. Similar, yet less hard to describe are the slide bars next to the doors at spas like Waldorf spa.....one side of sign is "open" the other is occupied, like a airplane bathroom.
Curtains provide, IMHO, a safety for the owners.....they can hear if "rules are violated" which, as many know, are tolerated by the owners for select customers at the HJ only spas....but more importantly, to protect the ladies against unruly drunken as*holes who abuse the staff or worse (e.g. when the girl was murdered at Downtown (?) in DC about a year ago (where they use doors). Violence or the like can be more readily discerned through curtains than doors...
That being said, has anyone actually tasted the new flavors in Waldorf other than Hot Sun? I am curious if services have returned to normal since the law change and spas reopening....?
Also, I have a hard time believing anyone can actually enjoy Oriental Spa in Elkridge, sorry Ustrongman. I quit going there in the early 90s (god I am getting old) but it was the first spa I ever went to also. I too thought it was great until I went elsewhere.
Can not forget the last time I was or ever will be there....a two ton suomo spa "girl" who, thank god, was not my massuese, actually tried to join in with the session I had with another because she thought I was cute (I aint). She was such a hog she was trying to get a tip or any business at all by leaching onto any customer as a "second girl".....more like hog. I could not believe management permitted that hog even to be there let alone harass customers. Have not returned since ....especially since I could not even garner wood after seeing that hog in the near buff.....instant wood killer....gives me chills still.
Lotus brings backsimiliar memories...but boy I had some excellent service there too, before being serviced by fossils.
Happy hobbying.....
Proto,
http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=136924 Read and learn my friend.
LoveLOS
Connaisseur
11-11-03, 14:08
Clix -
Excellent post on observing AMP bevahivor!
I have made the experience that the older places tend to have curtains, whereas newer establishments seem to favor doors.
Also, "door"- places appear to be more open to extra-curricular activities from what I have seen.
On another note, I just returned from Tampa, FL, and had a chance to sample some AMP action there as well. Overall, nice and fairly centralized selection of places and opening hours combined with the pleaseurable temperatures make it a fun destination. As far as quality and "bang-for-your-buck" is concerned, we here in MD still may very well be the luckier ones...
Haven't traveled to Waldorf recently. Must sample some more B'more& surroundings - produce first ; )
Conn.
Hugh Jardon
11-11-03, 14:33
Clix,
I'm completely with you about the Oriental Spa. It was my first spa, also, and I thought it was great until I tried some of the others that opened.
A few years back, maybe mid-90s, I decided to try them again for old times sake. I must have gotten that same "sumo" girl. She took my hand and led me to the back. I was absolutely horrified at the thought of her being my massuese. I asked her if anyone else was in and she gave me a hideous grin and said, "No, just me." I was outside, in my car, hyperventilating, in about 15 seconds. Haven't been back.
DrummerBoy
11-12-03, 11:52
Thanks for the correction Clix. As I said I wasn't sure and would ask, but, haven't the chance so thanks for the update.
I am glad that I didn't get the "suomo" girl. Your description alone gave me a traumatic reaction!
This is a reprint of my post on the Baltimore board from a couple days ago. It finally struck me that this report would be better off on this board.
Gentlemen we have a problem. It appears that Howard county is starting to harass some of our favorite spas with unanounced and frequent licence checks. They are using this as an oppertunity to question whatever customers are there at the time. I will not say which spas have been hit lately because it can happen to any of them at any time. As far as I know, all the license checks have turned out ok, but recently some customers have admitted to getting a HR. Guys, I can not stress enough that this is the wrong thing to do. Never, and I mean NEVER admit to getting anything, including a table shower, other that a legal massage. You may not know this but fully nude table showers are illegal in Maryland, and the same goes for HR. I really dont know how some guys can be so dumb when questioned. "No Mr. Inspector, nothing happened except I recieved a great massage." That is all that anyone needs to say. Come on guys, lets start thinking here. They only know what we tell them. If this continues, Howard county will go the way of Montomery county. I have ranted enough and I hope everyone gets the point.
Member #1415
11-28-03, 23:13
Can anyone provide any information on non-AMP in Jessup / Columbia / Ellicott City area?
Thanks
Philly Doc
12-14-03, 00:35
Lily Spa
Sophi
A+++
Best HJ I have ever had.
Topless massage
Very short nice tits.
She snuggles up next to you and takes her time.
January 5, 2004 I stopped in at the Lotus Shiatsu for the third time, ever. The last time I didn't like the girl and bailed after a $40 massage, with no extras. This time I opted for the 1 hour with table shower. I was greeted by a girl who, at first, I thought was the mama san, but quickly found that this was whatr I was getting. I don't even think she told me her name, but it doesn't matter, since I will go down the road the next time. Table shower was okay. There was never any discussion about what I wanted or if I wanted anything. As soon as she had me turn over she gave me an HJ. I thought about not tipping her at all, but since she was basically okay, I handed over a pair of Jacksons. There were only two girls working and I had the best one. As I said, there are too many other AMPS around for my to consider this one again.
I just left Lotus & Shiatsu. I paid the $60 and had a pretty good time. It was only 2 girls so I didnt spend a good while in the sauna, I got a mounted massage and it was great! I started rubbing her and in return I got a hard HJ. After it was over she kissed me? if that normal? I had a goo time but I will try somewhere else next time.
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I went ot Orental Spa around 10 last night and ran into a pretty nice chick. I think her name was Penny, real world 7 slim nice body b cup perky! And very sweet! And she finished it off with a nice slow HJ. This place is not as bad as other claim, or maybe I was lucky?
The Newbie
01-13-04, 22:19
First time at an AMP and I did everything wrong.
1) Said I hadn't been to an AMP before.
2) Over-tipped. I tipped the same amount as the cost of the massage for topless massage and HJ.
3) Got short changed on the hour - more like 40 minutes.
4) She didn't walk on my back. I wanted to know what a Shiatsu massage was like too.
It was a sensual massage and I am going to try it again and thanks to the posts here I am a lot more informed. Overall it was a fun experience but it was an expensive 40 minutes. I did have a bit of anxiety so it wasn't easy to relax.
I am not going to name the place but I think everyone who has read the posts on this board can figure it out.
DrummerBoy
01-13-04, 23:46
It is not normal not is it unheard of to get kissed by a provider. They generally reserve that for their boyfriends-especially on the lips!
Most reports on Lotus Shiatsu are not that good. Yours is one of the better ones I have seen there. A better time can be had at Rainbow Spa (Rt. 1 and Guilford Rd near Rt. 32), Kyoto Spa and Hana spa. The workers are generally prettier and have a much better attitude.
I'm telling you people, you have to make it up to York, PA for an all out great AMP experience. Check out the York PA forum on this board for info on the AMP's. Tokyo spa and Lily's spa...there was a third on but I think it's closed. The right tip will get you FS even on your first visit, I couldn't believe it because all the places in MD you have to work your way into getting FS by getting known at the AMPs.
Pole Bearer
01-15-04, 10:47
Mob,
Re: Your AMP kiss. FWIW, drummerboy is generally right: the kiss is saved for boyfriends. The girl will also do that with guys who treat them right, especially if she senses the guy is a newbie to the AMP action. You're the type they want back, so the kiss on the lips is partially a sales-technique to make sure you ask for her again when you return. I had a girl at the Hana Spa in Ellicott City do this with me once.
DrummerBoy
01-15-04, 13:07
Dear Prototype,
Thanks for the suggestion about York, PA. For some of us that may be convenient. Most of the mongers living south of Baltimore find it more convenient to go to Washington, DC for the easy, and younger score, so the need to travel to York would only be for convenience...Price is equitable.
DrummerBoy
01-15-04, 13:17
Dear Newbie,
I have my suspicions about where you went, there are a couple of places that I think would take advantage of a new customer...
This is one of the reasons this BB is around so that you can find out beforehand what to expect and where to go for what you want. Review some more and you will find out more on the tipping and how too's. Particularly pay attention to the senior members as they have been around longer and won't lead you wrong.
Most MD AMPs are cautious because of the LE presence, that is why you have to become a regular so that the mgt will recognize you as a non-threat. Washington, DC isn't hampered by the same rules and enforcement that is why younger, uncertified providers are in abundance and will provide FS right away.
DrummerBoy
01-15-04, 13:26
I know I am bringing up an older subject also addressed by Clix, but more on the curtain vs door subject.
I recently talked to an owner of a Howard County Spa and she said that the curtains for doors are mandatory in Howard County. Other counties may do something different, that is why Montgomery and Ann Arundel Counties have doors. She told me that they (owners and providers) prefer doors for better privacy but make the best out of the curtain situation by some of the tricks you describe.
I have another question for everyone. Why not full length mirrors by the tables? Other locations like Washington, DC and Philadelphia have them. Adds to the ambiance. LOL
I guess you are right about location...it's the little thing you don't think of like that. I'm lucky I guess, I little about 45 mins from York or DC. I really got to check out the DC MP's...do they charge the regular rates...60-70/hr? tips...20-60-100(or so)?
DrummerBoy
01-15-04, 23:04
Dear Prototype
The rates are the same in DC as anywhere else. 40 for 1/2 hr, 60 for an hour. Tips range as you said for the expected service. Try the "Downtown" AMP on vermont and 15th. The BB's all say they are the best. I tried them once, and they treated may very well for a first timer.
Fellow Mongers,
I just found these boards and this is my first post. Visited Lilys in Laurel on the 9th, Played with Sofie (I think, Really couln't understand her too well). Lilys was OK decent TS with Boob rubdown and HJ finish. Normal fee with 20 tip.
Stopped by Lotus on the 10th and saw Tina. Very nice TS with attention paid to the right places. Let me play with the Kitty while finishing me up with HJ. Normal fee with 20 tip.
I think I'll have to travel further so I can get some nice FS.
I hope you guys liked my made up stories, hopefully I'll have more to share soon.
Hey,
I wonder why at Oriental Spa that I can't get any of the women to take their clothes off (been with Coco,Mimi and Penny lately). I don't know if this is a house rule, because I have pushed the issue with feeling around. Most of them have not let me take it further beyond the outside of their clothes. I also have been to Lotus (Gina and Moana) and have had FS on ocassion, but lately it has been a HJ. Any comments on why they are not taking off the clothes, I thought this was somewhat standard throughout the AMP.
I think it is time for me to travel the DC AMP's
Chrisser
DrummerBoy
01-21-04, 13:20
Chrisser,
Oriental is one of the lower rated spas.
Try reading earlier posts. All you need to know as a "newbie" is there. You don't have to go far, just spend 15 minutes doing a little research.
Thanks,
I have been to most of the other ones in Howard County, like Lotus, Rainbow and Lily's. I also went to alot of the ones in Montgomery County and Waldorf before they have shut them down. I guess I will start going to Dc to get FS.
Does anyone know where Sasha from Kyoto is working now? Best DATY that I have ever experienced. She also used the name Yoko at another AMP
DrummerBoy
02-02-04, 13:24
I think Sasha from Kyoto is now working at Lily's spa in Laurel going back to her old name Yoko. I saw another review at another BB that matched her description. I haven't verified, but, you might want to check it out.
All for Fun
03-03-04, 16:32
Has anyone confirmed where Yoko is working? I remember her from her days at Rainbow. I called Lily's and they said that she wasn't there. Would love to find her again.
Thanks
Man accused of running prostitution ring in Howard
Massage parlor owner allegedly used illegal immigrants as sex workers; $1 million seized from bank accounts; Also charged with trying to bribe inspector, police
By Larry Carson, Sun Staff
Originally published March 3, 2004, 6:03 PM EST
Federal immigration agents have seized $1 million from bank accounts belonging to a Howard County massage parlor operator who officials allege operates a prostitution ring using illegal immigrants as sex workers.
According to federal affidavits used to obtain a warrant for the four bank accounts of Sung Yul Kim, 65, of Fort Lee, N.J., Kim allegedly offered to buy 20 fake green cards for illegal immigrants for $300,000, and paid a Howard County police lieutenant working undercover more than $4,000 to harass other parlor owners in the U.S. 1 corridor.
Kim wanted to buy two other massage parlors and corner the flesh trade in Howard County, the federal affidavits allege.
The naturalized citizen was arrested Friday and charged with three counts of trying to bribe a state inspector and two Howard County police officers.
Kim, who has claimed to be a former member of the Korean CIA, was released on $100,000 bail late Monday and ordered to surrender his passport and remain in New Jersey until his trial.
Three women found at his Oriental Spa in the 6300 block of Washington Blvd. when police raided Kim's business are still in custody as illegal immigrants, according to Allan Doody, special agent in charge of the Baltimore office of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
A customer at the spa admitted to police, the affidavit said, that he had paid for sex there before the raid.
Doody said federal authorities will seek forfeiture of the $1,037,804 seized as proceeds of allegedly illegal activity, though Kim's attorney James P. Ulwick said "we are planning to oppose it."
Ulwick, of the Baltimore law firm Kramon and Graham, had no other comment on the case, except to say that there is no reason to believe that Kim won't appear for trial.
Thomas M. McDonough, senior assistant state prosecutor, had opposed bail, arguing that Kim's local ties are "slim" and that he has traveled to Libya and Korea in recent years. McDonough said Kim owns $3 million in real estate in Korea.
According to the affidavit, Kim admitted to Howard police Lt. Keith Lessner that the spa is a cover for prostitution, and that he routinely brings illegal immigrant women to Maryland from New York to work providing sex.
State Prosecutor Stephen Montanarelli began investigating Kim more than a year ago after Paul Murphy, a state inspector, reported he had been offered bribes to harass other parlor operators so Kim could buy them cheaply.
Two Howard police officers posed as corrupt officials willing to take bribes to gather more evidence, Montanarelli's office said.
Lessner actually received more than $4,000 in alleged bribes over a period of months, liquor, meals and jewelry, prosecutors allege, and he in return gave Kim two fake massage/ therapist identification cards for women working in his spa.
Kim used fake Social Security numbers supplied by Lessner to open bank accounts, the affidavit said, which was part of an effort to launder proceeds from the business through various Kim family members and bank accounts. The documents claim that fees for legitimate massage were mingled with illegal payments for sex and filtered through the accounts.
One woman Kim sought an identification card for allegedly entered the United States illegally from Mexico after traveling there on a tourist visa from China in April 1999.
Kim later asked Lessner if he could obtain 20 fake green cards -- working permits for immigrants -- for which Kim would pay $15,000 each.
He also allegedly offered to put Lessner on his payroll for $10,000 a month and make him a partner once he bought the other parlors. Detective Guy Williams, the other Howard officer working undercover, said in the affidavit that Kim told him he had traveled to Indonesia and saw a warehouse there containing hundreds of people waiting for documents to travel illegally to the United States.
Most of the women who make the trip end up as prostitutes working in massage parlors, the affidavit alleged. If they are arrested, they are often spirited away to parlors in other states if they are released.
Robux's post on the Oriental Spa Owner's bust made me laugh....
Oriental spa is the worst of all the spas I have ever been to.
A customer admitted to paying for sex there? Sh*t......my experiences there, albeit in the distant past, always sucked and never did I get anything more than a HJ if that. Sounds to me like the police informant, or customer, is really a guy in legal trouble and was forced to make a deal in exchange to get his legal crap taken off the table.
Our tax dollars at work.....what a fu*cking shame, but at least they are eliminating a crappy spa and not a decent one....
Frank Africa
03-04-04, 11:56
From Robux's post, I love the line:
"Kim wanted to buy two other massage parlors and corner the flesh trade in Howard County"
Now there's a career ambition to tell your high school guidance counselor - "when I grow up I want to own all of the Asian Massage Parlors in Howard County" LOL
What struck me was that he was willing to pay $15K for a greencard. Dayum.
Ustrongman
03-05-04, 03:51
Arrived at Lily's at opening one morning last week. Decided to go north because traffic was bad south. At Lilly's, the momason did not allow for a line up, but said she would bring in a nice girl. Cookie was very sexy, and has a cute little body, but she was not pleasant at all from the very beginning. The TS was a little better than routine, the unrequested sauna was boring, and the massage was OK but very mechanical. I had a ample tip in plain sight, and after about 10 minutes of massage, Cookie asked me what I wanted. I was up for everything, and she wanted the tip up front, but since I was not in DC I was very cautious to not turn over the reward before the deed. With that, she became even more indignant, and the hand shake was the worst ever, as if she was trying to rip it off I'm sorry to report. When it was time for more, she said we were not in DC, and the hand shake only got worse, and so bad I did not finish which was a first for me. Her nude body was a real turn on, but her attitude ruined it. When I had had enough, she wanted all of the tip, but I gave in to 60 when 20 would have been more in line. She stormed out of the room with the 60 immediately, and after I got dressed I peeked outside of the curtain where she was out there waiting for me and the uncomfortable walk to the door. She was so ignorant and greedy.
DrummerBoy
03-15-04, 18:05
In response to Ustrongman:
Lily's has the reputation of nothing beyond a HJ. I agree that "cookie" is beautiful and certainly YMMV with her. You have had the worst experience that I have heard of there. Even if you are "difficult" (I am not saying you were), she should have treated you better. I have had a good time and also bad times with her. I known her when she was at Hana Spa where almost anything goes. She rated a "zero" tip for sure!
Cookie is a part timer that is very moody. There are better performers at Lily's I am sure, but, I don't go there regularly anymore. I have a better time at Kyoto and Hana Spa (MD). Of course the DC favorites like Downtown and Supra are more of a drive but younger and better selections.
Ustrongman
03-17-04, 13:39
I'm better now, thanks to this dream I had. It occurred at Maui, and it's a good thing I woke up because I was able to remember Mimi's name. I received something only one could receive in a dream, and it was a bbcf. Anyone know, or heard of, or had a chin fuck? I was pleasantly pleased, but only in my fondest dreams.
Is this Maui in Elkridge, off Waterloo? I've never experiences anything more than a tug at any MD AMP...but haven't been to Maui. Do you have to be well known there to get anything more than a handshake?
Member #1415
03-23-04, 16:06
There is an ad on Baltimore City Paper:
CAROL 5'8" slender, redhead. The quality you are looking for. Mon, Wed, Fri 410-203-2500 Nonsexual
Can anyone provide information on her services and charges?
Thanks.
DrummerBoy
03-23-04, 22:51
The best services I received at Maui was a bbbj from an "older" woman. Haven't been back since.
Had a very good experience at Lotus on Wednesday midday. First time with Mina (?). Although TS wasn't available, she works magic with her hands and gave me a terrific massage. Much to my surprise, she speaks Russian (as do I) and we conversed in that language at length. Im sure the experience would have been even more fulfilling and relaxing had not the representative of the State licensing office been paying a visit at the same time! The usual door fee and, as I was leaving, Mr. Grant rewarded her as well. I will be back to see her.
DrummerBoy
04-03-04, 16:17
I found out that Jade Shiatsu spa on Frederick rd, Ellicott City has new ownership. Might be worth checking out. I also heard that the "Table Shower" is back.
Benchseats Rock
04-20-04, 00:04
Member 1415:
You have her number. Why don't you give her a call and then YOU tell US?!
Just an idea.
Stay Safe
I learned that the new owners of Jade Shiatsu are the owners of Kyoto. Since Kyoto is always a pretty good experience Jade may be worth a visit.
DrummerBoy
05-12-04, 16:56
Haven't been to
Hana Spa for a while. Is the lineup still the same?
Anybody know where Micky went from Jade they keep telling me she is on Vacation. In my experience this mean's they have moved her to another spa. But I went to Jade anyway and had Candy not even worth the money given to momasan.
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I was driving by the intersection of Rt 198 and whiskey bottom around 2pm and there was a wsw at the corner right by the bar. I was caugth off guard and by the time I made it back to the intersection she was picked up by another monger and that was that. I checked out rt 1 near whiskey bottom and saw two potential wsw but they were probably 4's while the first one was closer to 7, imo. I guess the nice weather might just bring this area some much needed attractions.
DrummerBoy
05-25-04, 23:16
I'm surprised there isn't more. There is plenty of cheap motels in the area.
DrummerBoy
05-26-04, 10:39
This board has been too quiet lately, I guess all the mongers have moved on elsewhere or nothing worth reporting in this area!
I will have to try the local amps and give my report
DrummerBoy
05-29-04, 13:57
Visit to Jade Shiatsu,
Thought I'd try it out since I heard there was some changes there. Glad to see that they have a TS now. Last I knew you had to give yourself a shower in a standup stall, Ugh! That kind of takes away half the fun, you know?
Heard that Mickey went into "temporary" retirement. All good providers need to take a break once in a while and get their head together. We can be kind of tough on them mentally (ha ha ha).
Mamasan took the standard house fee and gave me Candy, which from an earlier post, I thought might not work out. In this case it was different. I had a very good shower experience getting good and clean in all the right areas ( I love TS!). Candy led me back to the room for a nice relaxing massage which was better than most I have had (I have had hundreds over the last ten years). The rest was nice but left unspoken as this was my first visit. I certainly had a pretty good experience this time and will return.
Cooldude777
05-30-04, 23:27
Drummerboy
How much did ya tip at Jade?
Yu Yank Kafh
06-03-04, 18:39
I've been to all the local AMP's, but has anyone had any experiences with the "american staff"? Do these places meet the same relaxation needs as an AMP?
DrummerBoy
06-04-04, 17:46
Cool Dude,
The usual standard fee like anywhere else.
Yu,
I have not been to any American staff MP's. Over the years, not one report was good on any boards I participate in, so I decided not to waste my time and money.
Yu Yank Kafh
06-04-04, 18:13
Drummerboy,
Thanks. I might as well stick to what I know.
Happy Hunting
I'd like to introduce myself. I'm "My Time" and you'll be seeing a lot of me on hear. I've been reading this forum for about 6 months now and just got activated. And yes I have RTFF and know most of the ins and outs. I mostly frequent AMP's in the Jessup area especially Lotus, but since most of the woman like Candy and Judy are no longer there I'll be looking for another good spot. Any recommendations?
Ok now that I've introduced myself. Let me have it cause I know how a newbie will get treated, lol
Let me have it.
The Newbie
06-05-04, 21:09
I went to AMP in Jessup recently. I might have been paranoid but it seemed like there were a couple gentlemen in separate vehicles watching the place. I did a drive by and then went back later to see if they were still lingering outside. They weren't so I went in. I am not going to mention which AMP it was.. It didn't smell like bacon so much as a couple of busy-bodies with less than noble intentions. Like I said, I might be paranoid but even the provider was a little extra careful with verification.
DrummerBoy
06-05-04, 21:19
My Time,
let's see, you have been reading this forum for about 6 months, did the RTFF bit, but, yet you are asking for recommendations in the Jessup area? You are lucky you didn't post this in the Baltimore forum. The Lions would have had you for lunch! We are kinder here, but, this one gave me a laugh. Continue to RTFF and then you will know. ROTFLOL
I heard there was a new AMP on Rt 108, near Kyoto Spa. I haven't tried it yet, has anyone?
On another note, It has been a while since someone posted their list of favorite spas, providers, events. This time lets try something different. Let's see what the list of events that we all seen that we did not like. My all time bad experiences:
1). Old mamasan table showers
2). Bait and Switch -- you call and make appt with fav gal
and they say she is there only to find out on arrival
that she is on "vacation".
3). Forgotten and baked in a sauna.
Anyone have any more??
Ustrongman
06-05-04, 21:59
4. Garlic breath on a sexy trainer.
5. Pay 60 for 60, and get 45 or less.
6. Curtains instead of a door!
Drummerboy,
Yeah you're right bad choice of words. I should have RTFF more to find the best one to go to. But I just figured with all your expertise you could tell me which is best at this time. I can read a post from months ago but you know how the woman move around in these places. I've only been to Lotus. Wish I could find out where Candy and Judy went to. I wonder if The Candy you saw at Jade Shiatsu is the same as the one I was seeing, hmmmm guess there's only one way to find out.
Here I come Jade.
My Time
Drummer- you got that right!
Not sure about the new spa you mentioned.
It probably is the new spa that opened at the former Maui location.
Mytime - if Lotus was your favorite, try any other spa in the world and you will be very happy!!! Cause Lotus suxs.
I quit going to Lotus years ago cause of the more often than not fossil staff. If they look 30 they are 50....and if they look 50 well, you get the idea.....
Maybe it improved in the past few years, but not from the recon I have.
Locally ANY SPA other than Lotus will provide better service and selection.
Just my two cents.....
Clix
DrummerBoy
06-06-04, 17:11
Clix, great to see you back. You used to be a fixture at this and other MD forums. Missed your insight and wisdom.
The new Spa is advertised in the SUN as Golden Health Center at 6590 Old Waterloo RD, Rt 108. Not sure if that was Maui or not. If it is, the new mgt was wise to change its name due to the bad mgt that was there before, LOL. If anyone knows and can submit review, it will be much appreciated by our fellow mongerers. I am saving my pennies and filling my internal tank for a trip of a lifetime to FL, Grand Cayman, and Cozemel with my favorite SW.
Clix,
Thanks for the info.
I have to agree with you. There are a lot of fossils working there and believe me I've been with all of them. And I'd like to forget that part of my experiene there lol. That's one of the reasons I always asked for Candy who was in her late 20's and Judy who was around 35.
I might try that new Spa Drummerboy was talking about. When I do I'll post what I find out.
Good day.
DrummerBoy
06-07-04, 20:34
I did a little research for the team and found out that the "new" spa is really Maui renamed to Golden Health Spa. Hope they have younger SW there and not just a name change.
My last and only visit at Maui was a couple years ago and they were like Lotus, all old workers that seen their better days decades ago.
On the bright side, they were very polite, and gave BBBJCIM. I certainly didn't want anymore from them and one bag over the head was sufficient. rating: 1 ugh
DrummerBoy
06-07-04, 21:32
Ustrongman -
Yeah, I forgot about those, but definitly agree. I forgot another one, which undoubtedly would change the order of UGH!
A provider provided an eggfart while I was giving her a massage in Philadelphia once. Man, did that change the ambiance!
After the fog cleared, and my eyesight came back we were able to resume with a happy ending!
My Time -
You have a point. There has been scant little info here. Hope my summary helps out a bit. Maybe others will chip in if they are inclined too. Let us know if Candy at Jade Shiatsu is the same as the one you had at Lotus. It would be good if she is the one. Her ole customers will be happy.
Below is a general summary of my experience in recent years, YMMV however.
I usually get very good service at Hana Spa, Kyoto Spa, and Rainbow Spa. FS is available at Hana, but not necessarily at the others. Rainbow usually has younger, prettier girls, but it costs $70 for an hour not including tip. They are perhaps the busiest spa in Howard County. I haven't been to Hana Spa in a while, so, I don't know the present lineup. They usually keep their stable for years. Connie, Judy, and Sara were there for at least 4 years, with Connie the wildest, Judy with the big cans, and Sara, well, I won't even speak about. None of them are young, my guess is 40ish. Sometimes a drop-dead gorgeous SW will appear for a time at Hana. Kyoto changes workers frequently with relatively mixed reviews, but, it is one of the cleanest facility in the area and they treat you well.
Overall, YMMV, especially at MD AMPS. You usually have to establish yourself with the AMP before exceptional time is given. Oriental (in Elkridge) is closed and any other AMP in Howard County is never written about.
Overall, this is a tough time for newcommers. The AMP owners/workers are nervous because, being an election year, they are worried that LE is going to close them for whatever reason. I think this is one of the reasons that this forum and DC has been quieter this year. Long time mongers do not want to see their fav places closed.
Happy mongering
Paid a visit to my regular jessup spa at the junction when the massage mood hit me hard Monday. Thought I had Julie/Judy? whatever the 30's beauty's konglish is not so hot. Upon lst visit she provided a very memorable massage experience with HJTC leaving me fully drained. A later visit topped the above ending up totally ralaxed and quite proud of the pearly jewels left on her soft neck after the topside sqeeze play.
Turned out that upon closer inspection Monday's girl was not who I had thought. Slender and attractive much like my assumed provider but with some nicely enhanced cans and an even more limited vocabulary. I could not get any interpretation on name. Perfect TS and massage, very happy ending mish position simulated FS. This was a nice twist. Her favorite terms include ooh ohh, come in here and flooding baby. A very nice face neck treatment with hotawool and some more massage afterward. The real bonus was a second play period with a 6 9 view and HJTC. I must see this gal again! Typical 60/60 actually got the full 60 and usual 2j's tip with a little extra after the second period.
Butter Dog
06-09-04, 22:50
Hello folks. Another newbie here. Been reading the post for several weeks now and really enjoy reading the reviews, etc. Even though I’ve RTFF, I’m sure that I’m still fair game for some rookie criticism.
My last two visits happened to be at Pinetree. Not too many glowing reviews, but I certainly was treated well. Last two times were with Judy (maybe not the same one as mentioned in prior posts? This Judy is in her mid-20’s, very pretty, skinny but well endowed). Okay TS and average massage. However, asked me about FS first. We agreed to the normal rate (start at 80, she’ll counter at 120, and meet in the middle).
I’ll keep Pinetree on my personal list, but will probably try out Kyoto and Hana based on other posts. I enjoy the variety.
B Dog
p.s. – what’s with that garlic breath? I get it all the time too!
7. Waiting for happy ending to start, and she steps out for 10 minutes.
DrummerBoy
06-11-04, 17:26
Butterdog,
Good post. I am glad "newbies" are starting to carry on the tradition and keep this thread alive. There hasn't been many posts on Pinetree. The last ones were not so good. The "Judy" that you are referring too is probably different. The one we talked about was at Hana Spa and not so young and slim.
8). SW tries to get more $$ than the standard rate after average service.
DrummerBoy
06-11-04, 17:37
LOL about Garlic Breath, covers the smoker's breath.
Brought to mind another one.
9) got a real hot BBBJ after she ate kimchee. She didn't even warn me. Damn hot but felt good just the same! LOL
Drummerboy,
You gotta love that Kimchee. I keep a big jar of it handy at all times. lol here's a secret for all you guys out there. Korean woman love the smell of this stuff, so if you eat some before hand you might get a lot more than the normal tug, they love this stuff and I actually think it turns them on. LOL
Good luck. LOL
My Time
Butter, your experience at Pinetree surprises me. I went there a few months ago and had a pretty dull time.
I was impressed by the collection of exercise equipment in the lobby of Pinetree "Fitness Center."
I've never encountered FS in MD. I've actually kind of sworn off MD Spas. There is more on the menu in DC and some NYC AMPs.
Butter Dog
06-16-04, 18:42
Lever,
Maybe it was more positive for me because of the girl (Judy)(twice) and not so much as the AMP. I guess what I'm trying to say is that MAYBE she was the exception and not the rule. But I must say that the girls have gotten younger and prettier over the last year or two.
Anyhow, FS is available in MD, but maybe not as much as DC or NYC.
I am a little surprised about the few AMP's reviewed in the recent posts. I am very happy to hear about the possitive reviews. Does anyone have any hidden gems? I used to go to Lotus (long ago) and Bacco (recently). But they both seem to have turned in senior retirement homes. I miss living in HoCo. I now live near Essex, and I don't see anything advertised around here. So if I need to make the trip, it's nice to know where to go.
What about Glen Burnie? Wasn't there a place behind some gas station named Paradise or something like that? Went there 18+ months ago and got the "usual" (TS, good rub and happy ending). Wondering if it's worth going back.
Yu Yank Kafh
06-18-04, 19:16
I decided it was a good idea to pay a visit to pine tree on my lunch break. I was meet with the ususal, "have you been here before" and 3 jays to the house. Must have been a busy time because they put me in the sauna first.
After about 5 minutes, "Judy" opens the door and off to the TS. She payed attention to all the right areas and back to the room. One thing I like about this place is they have doors. The massage was below average and only a HJ.
DrummerBoy
06-21-04, 00:50
Pine Tree has doors? I haven't seen any in MD with doors. I wonder if they have mirrors along the bed/table? That would do it for me if the SW was good looking.
Please my weary bretheren there is full service to be had in the great state of md. Balt Co. to be exact but i will divulge such privy info in a forum as such, but some amps (balt) do thug thizzile when it comes to full service.
This isn't my normal stomping grounds (I'm in Montomery County, so I usually head to DC), but I did find myself in the area over the weekend when visiting a friend.
I remembered a few locations of the (albeit less than stellar) AMP's listed on this forum, and set out to try one of them. I knew not to expect much more than a rub and tug, which was fine, because at the time, that's all I really wanted.
I managed to find Golden (used to be Maui if I'm reading old posts right), which is located in a fairly suburban looking shopping center. Usual deal with mamasan at the door, but I was suprised by a couple things. One, there was curtains instead of doors. Weird. Even stranger, I had to fill out some sort of form before my massage. I guess it's part of their license (there's a sign stating they are licensed). Filled out the important bits, but my last name changed in a hurry. :)
My provider was Tina[0], who has probably seen many, many better years, and honestly I think mamasan looked better. At least her attitude made up for it as she was pretty friendly and joking. TS was decent, and the massage was actually really, really good. I think it's the best I've ever had in an AMP. Best part was it was followed by her top coming off and me getting a tit rub. They were nice and big, and for some reason the sagginess made them even softer.
After the flip, I got the signal for an HJ, which I affirmed. Was surprised with some added AR, Russian, and other work in addition to the finish. Lil E was still at attention for a bit, so she gave me an extra pop. I was amazed that she didn't even ask for a tip the entire time, but since she did get the job done pretty well, I added an incentive to her pension check.
I'm definitely going to stick with DC for now, because it wasn't worth going out of my way. If I'm in the area again, and in the mood, though, I would probably repeat. Other than age and lack of FS, it had everything else I like about AMP's.
[0] I only remember her name because she had huge hair like Tina Turner.
Alan Duval
07-01-04, 16:45
My experience in local AMP, like others have said, is that the key is to be known. If I am not known by sight, I get hj. Period.
However, I have two favorite places: one in Ho Co, just west of Ellicott City, and one in B'more. I am known at both, and always get FS at both. The Ho Co location, just west of Ellicott City is 1.6. Average looks, older model, but excellent massage, excellent bbbj, always ends with fs.
The B'more location, between downtown and JHU is 1.7. But... really pretty girls, younger, nice massage, best GFE I've found anywhere, bbbj, sweet tasting DATY (worried for a second that she was going to break my neck with her thighs when she came my last visit!), and great fs.
It took about 4 visits to each before I was a recognized regular. But it has paid off.
where is kyoto spa? i found the building marked 8950 on 108 but didn't see any sign of kyoto and the place was locked up around midnight
Triple E,
Does Tina's lower lip sort of protrude past her upper one, like she had a bad collagen injection?
If so, she will give FS once she gets to know you.
LexLuther
That sounds about right. That visit was one of the few times I actually didn't want FS, since I usually go to DC for that, but it's good to know.
I'm not normally that far east on a regular basis, but it might not hurt to stop in whenever I am in that area.
Connaisseur
07-08-04, 16:31
Back again after having been too busy to post for a while.
Alan -
I couldn't agree more, getting to know the people does pay off. And there is definitely a nice selection of AMPs in the B'more area where Frank Sinatra sings... I do believe I know which 2 establishments you are referring to also.
Has anyone been to Jade, Lotus or the new place on Belair Rd. lately?
Conn.
I am dense....what is the reference to "where Frank Sinatra sings" imply?
Member #4338
07-08-04, 17:41
Just a guess. Frank Sinatra = FS
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Kelvin Vanilly
07-09-04, 12:30
Here is a recent report told to me by a friend of mind named Richard :)
Jade in Baltimore Co.
Richard has gone to Jade in Balt. Co. several times to get established. Seems all Korean. Each time only HJ was offered. After trying a few more times to get something more he just gave up. He says if you still decide to try it out, avoid the mamasan at all cost. Unless you ask for a new girl, it seems that you will always get the mamasan - Wendy, over 40 with not much of a body. She doenst allow wandering at all with the hands. Though after some persistance he was allowed to rub her pet kitty as long as his hands stayed outside of her pants. There is something hot about getting the juices flowing in an older woman and the hj's from Wendy were the best he has gotten. She also likes to compliment your package as she is massaging. Nothing wrong with puffing up the old ego. The other girls Richard saw after Wendy did allow some exploring.
Still he said he wasnt coming back but there was 1 absolutely smokin new girl that he saw on the way out of his last visit that may convince him to try again. He should have asked for her name.
From reading the board I don't think anyone has gotten more than HJ at this place anyhow
Kelvin Vanilly
07-09-04, 13:04
Here is another recent report told to me by my friend Richard
Pikesville location
This place was small with a rear entrance. He saw a woman sitting in a car with the engine off parked nearby the rear entrance. He wasn't sure what the car might be doing there so he walked around the neighborhood and got a bite to eat until the car was gone. The car was there for a very long time though so he thinks his suspicions might have been right.
Now he hit the doorbell. He told me that he thinks AMP's have some of the sweetest sound doorbells he has heard. A girl in her early 20's answered the door. She said they were busy and he could come back on 1 hour. Now Richard is an impatient guy and was about to move on but the looks of this girl got him hot. She wasnt the slutty big boob type or anything but looked more like that sweet asian girl with the glass who was in your math class who always got A's on her test and played the violin in an orchestra. She was dressed like she was just a student at University of Maryland earning some extra cash. Well Richard had no problem waiting an hour for a massage from this hottie.
When he came back he was disappointed that she wouldn't be doing the massage. Since this was his first time there he didnt bother to learn her name for next time perhaps. He just wanted to know what was on the menu. Well in comes this attractive girl with tight pants and a loose top on. Face - 6 Body - 8 Personality -10 English - 6. They had a good conversation and she was really happy with how nice and friendly he was. He wasn't grouping her like a rag doll. Just lightly rubbed on her legs and arms as she did the massage. She said that she like how big Richards package was. He was shocked because most of the asian girls he has been with say he is too big. Richard was excited now.
Then came the flip and she did the HJ hand motion. Richard asked if anything else was available. She gave a little smile and asked him what he would like. He said a BJ. She started to get a little paranoid and asked him if he was LE or not. He convinced her that he wasnt but Richard started thinking that BJ was an off menu item that might not be approved by the house mamasan. Richard said he only had 0.65 chips but she said that was fine. She said she was only doing it because of how nice he was to her and she liked him. Richard was excited now cause he knew he would be getting GFE. Guys you will be surprised at how nice these girls will be to you if you are nice to them. They deal with assholes all the time. He wanted BBBJ but she would give only CBJ. Oh they had no wraps there so she used Suran Wrap, so if you are hoping for what you want then you need to bring your own. He said he will definitely be returning but it seems at this place that YMMV.
Connaisseur
07-09-04, 18:33
Sorry, Clix - excuse my liberal use of musical terms here; and, yes, Laxman, you're right. Billy Joel and Frankieboy are frequent performers around here ; ).
Conn.
DrummerBoy
07-10-04, 18:54
Have been away for awhile on vacation. Just getting to my updates with a week more to go!
Kelvin Vanili,
Was this Jade, Jade Shiatzu in Howard County? or is this another Jade in Baltimore County? I haven't seen many reports out of Baltimore County Spas other than Pinetree.
Prototype,
Kyoto Spa closes at 11PM S-Thurs; 12PM Fri-Sat. That is why you missed them. Be sure to review them, I haven't been there in a while and am interested if they have some new material (LOL)
Connaisseur
07-10-04, 21:16
As this board seems to be the place for AMP action, I'm back with the latest on B'more spas (and there are a few jewels, if you keep looking!):
Tried to phone "Miss" (advertised in the CP) - no response, voicemail. Nevrmind, then...
drummerboy: Was in the mood for a bit of relaxation HJ style, decided to give Jade on Joppa Rd. another try (been there about 1/2 yr ago). Very busy, got hooked up with Laurie - nothing to write home about, but nice massage style (ask for "soft", she really works your crack), and finished happy while playing with her boobs. Overall an 8 experience on a scale from 1-10, given my expectations.
That's it for today; until next time: keep on rocking!
Conn.
Moonlight report.
I am from Northern VA and get to Balto occasionally. Thought i"d drop a report here since Jessup area is on my travel route.
The only two AMPs I have visited in Balto is Moonlight near Security Blvd (been there many times over the years. it was my first AMP) and Pine Tree on Eastern Ave.
I visited Moonlight Saturday night and was told the house fee was $70. I told the girl I would only pay $60 and she accepted. Ruby was a very hot petite little thing with balloon tits. Looks 8+ personality 6, service 9. She told me she was 24.
She gave me a good TS with lots of massaging in all the right areas. When we got back to the room she seemed hurried. The doorbell kept ringing and I suspected that one of you mogerers was waiting in the other room. I was determined to get my full hour though.
She gave me the fastest massage ever. She wasted no time in asking if I wanted "boom boom" as she called it. I said yes and she immediately got naked and went to work on me. I tried slowing her down by laying her down for some tasty DATY. She wanted to be done with it too soon though.
She gave me an awesome CBJ for a very long time then we finished off doggie style with FS. Afterwards I asked her to give me a light massage which she did at high speed. I slowed her down and she got junior all excited again and she gave me a good hand job. Tipped her 5Js.
I left about 10 minutes early, but had a great time. I think that Moonlight has gone from being an AMP straight to a Ho Palace. If you want FS Moonlight is the place.
Mongoman
Question for all you knowlegeable mongers: I'm into Russian girls, anyone know of a good place to find some in Maryland? MPs, strip clubs, independents, etc? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance
There used to be one or two MP's in the area where St. John's lane and 144 meet North of Columbia. I don't wish to be more specific on this forum. These had Russian girls. But service there was hit or miss. A lot of times the girls would play games. For instance after you had paid entrance fee and a large tip, you find out it's not really FS.
I recommend you stick with AMP's.
LexLuther
Madden,
I can help you with a couple of places. Total Body Concepts is an MP that advertises in the City Paper that has had Russian women in the past. As far as I know, there is no FS on the menu. There is also a "tittie" bar named the Crazy Russian on 40 East. It is a Baltimore County bar though - pasties, bottoms, NO extras, but there are many Russian girls there. Hope this helps.
And this guy, we just call "Feldman!"
Connaisseur
07-13-04, 12:15
Madden:
A friend of mine has been to TBC, and verified the availability of Russians there. Big bucks, little bang - but after a few (spendy)visits he managed to "date" one of these babes from the East outside the MP. Not worth the time IMHO, but you may wanna give it a try!
Conn.
Dem Gnomes
07-15-04, 00:04
Q: Can anyone provide location info on "Moonlight" spa in Pineville / Wooddale / Woodland / Woodchuck?
I've tried the forum search, and gotten the "Moonlight in XXX" references, above, but Yahoo's Yellow Pages shows nothing named "Moonlight <something>" that isn't Welding, or Travel, or some other not-an-AMP entry.
So please, in the interest of helping a stranger from out of town get a map, where is it? It's Security Blvd and ... what? Does it have a new name? Is it some elusive El Dorado you bastards made up to separate the sheep from the goats?
What gives?
Dem Curious Gnomes
DEM: Grab a City Paper and you will have all the info you need. We also have this exclusive telephone service here in Baltimore where you dial "411" and a person will give you the phone number of any listed business in town. If you call Moonlight directly you can get directions from mamasan.
Good luck and I look forward to your report.
incognito
Smiling Fox
07-16-04, 01:21
Ok, guys,
There has got to be a network of russian ladies somewhere other than TB or what ever over on loch raven. Thats what we need a little question and answer investigation. I love the russian ladies, independent. Oh if I remember KIEV is in the Ukraine. Close to Russia, and generally a simular culture, but...
SF
Connaisseur
07-16-04, 14:57
Fox -
There always used to be a bunch of Russians hanging out at "Rascal's" on Joppa, perhaps not all "providers", but certainly open to suggestions. Don't know where they have moved to since the place closed down to make room for "Hooter's" (of all things...) - ironic, isn't it?
Muff Scout
07-17-04, 17:23
Con,
Many of the russians who used to hang out at Rascals now go to the Havana Club on Light Street in Baltimore.
Have fun.
Muff Scout
Last week visited three AMP's. The worst one was Golden health spa. Old mamason was the only girl there at 12:00 noon. I got a TS & HJ only. 2nd-Went to Kyoto extremly old girls. I got CBJ,DATY,FS here for a $. She had a bad smell. I finished and was walking out and I got a little scare. Looked in the mirror and saw little bugs on my face -OH SHIT CRABS. Looked again it was nothing but a few nats. Thoroughly examined my crotch and nothing was there. But all weekend I was worried with every little itch. Both places the girls were dressed in sweat pants and old t-shirts just like my wife.--ugh! The best place was Rainbow even in the morning there always happy to see you. The girls are beautiful, young and always clean and smell good. I have never gotten FS or BJ but Ive always left happy.
Connaisseur
07-19-04, 10:58
AMP Report:
Thought I'd lighten up that dreary Sunday with a visit to Victoria HC (advertised in the CP). I proceeded as instructed to enter from the rear parking lot (scary setting, but turned out to be fine). After ringing the bell at the door marked "6643", Mamasan turned out to be "Papasan", who introduced himself as Jim. He jelled something upstairs, and down came "Joanne", a fine looking Vietnamese, gorgeous long, black hair, great figure, perhaps 24 y/o. Clad in a short beach dress and smelling very nice, she led me up to the room (very clean and modern) and after taking care of business proceeded with a so-so massage (I declined the TS offered, maybe I should try next time). Nice attitude, chatted for a bit, said she had just come down from NY.
After the flip-over, the lights were dimmed and she asked what I had in mind. Could have gone further, but I decided on HJ with her clothes coming off, for which she wanted to see 3 Jacksons - quite ambitious in my book. Agreed on 2 1/2, after which B+ size tits were revealed, but she was a bit reluctant to disrobe any further. Nice finish with my hand roaming what turned out to be an incredibly fine butt.
Interesting detail: the rooms have doors with little windows in them, that can be covered with tiny curtains...just like at grandma's...
Conclusion: the place certainly has potential, many things may be on the menu, Joanne is a bombshell, but taking into consideration the standard 50/70 house fee, too greedy.
Also, although everything was performed nicely, the whole affair appeared to be a bit rushed.
Conn.
All this discussion of Russian ladies (of which I am a fan) is great, but it belongs on the Baltimore Board so folks can find it. And Havana Club is on Water Street not Light (St. Paul) Street. Muff, you should be a senior member by now. Unlike the old days, you gotta ask, and you should!
Dr. Monger
Moon Louie
07-20-04, 17:30
I stopped by Lily's Spa several days ago. Mamasan told me "i'll send someone good!" A girl named Candy came in. She looked ok about 7. But her attitude and service was awful. She didn't even try to smile at all. All she kept saying was that she wanted more tip and more money! Her service and massage was awful. Guys, be warned! Don't get Candy or you'll be screwed!
Agree with Torpedoman on this rankings. He could have mentioned two other area AMPS that rightly don't even merit mention. The Rainbow has a limited menu, and wants to keep the LE and "health inspectors" at bay. However, the ladies are always pleasant, toward the younger side, usually very attractive, and generally accomplished in massage services. I have only been disappointed twice by the attitude of the server, and I mentioned it to the girls on the next visit. The ladies made sure that amends were made. Chanel is pretty, small frame, enhanced figure, but a little too professional and business like. But she is good, and act with the best of them. Mickey was great, but have not seen for a long time. Anna is active and fun for an hour. Have tried teh others, adn they actually ary from visit to visit. But Kay is always the best. ALL Natural, and really responsive. The house fee of $70 is higher than it should be, but the ladies are worth it in comparison.
DrummerBoy
07-23-04, 23:31
I'll agree with Torpedo12 that the girls are usually younger and prettier at Rainbow but I don't think it warrants them charging more than the other amps in MD/VA/DC. I've had better service in DC and Kyoto. I think something is wrong with his/her report on Kyoto. I've been a regular there for 4 years and I NEVER seen the workers wearing sweats. The only place in MD that I saw that was at Hana Spa.
Golden Health Spa (formerly Maui) always seem to have old ladies working there. Asian women usually look at least 10 years younger than they are, so if they look like they are 50 then they may be in their 60's! I've seen some older workers from time to time at Kyoto but they usually are not there long. I seen a younger women there as I was leaving last week, but didn't get her name.
I've been a patron of many spas for years and never came across an asian amp worker who smelled bad. Bugs? Gnats? LOL Why mention it if it was not from her? Who would have FS with someone who "smelled bad"? This report sounds like someone with an ax to grind. Being this is your first report, it probably is.
Rash Lover
07-24-04, 02:53
I visited Rainbow Spa Tuesday evening...it seemed as if not many visitors because i did not have to wait and went straight to room. Mamasan charged me 70 bucks ( i was thinking it is 60) though for house fee! anyways...i don't not mind money much if the service is good. But it was a bad experience for me. She turned out to be in late 30's or early 40's (a total turn off for me!) I saw two more girls roaming around there and they were also in late 30's.
Back to me. She gave me a good private shower though, but afterwards did not ask me the option of towel or sauna, and just put me in sauna!
I asked for the soft massage. I did not like the way she did, not enthusiastic at all. I asked in the meanwhile if there are other services I can opt for and pay for it. She just said nothing except massage. She did not even disrobe herself (wearing a long single piece) or let me even do or touch anything at all. Worst part was that shower and massage with HJ was only 30minuts (instead of 1 hour). I asked her if the package was 1 hour and she said yes. I did not ask her more about why she finished in 30mins then. I was frustrated for getting 1/2hour service when I paid 70 bucks with 20bucks tip, that also with no entertaining services!
I would never ever recommend this spa to anyone!I visited Rainbow Spa yesterday evening...it seemed as if not many visitors because I did not have to wait and went straight to room. Mamasan charged me 70 bucks (I was thinking it is 60) though for house fee! anyways. I don't not mind money much if the service is good. But it was a bad experience for me. She turned out to be in late 30's or early 40's (a total turn off for me!) I saw two more girls roaming around there and they were also in late 30's.
Back to me. She gave me a good private shower though, but afterwards did not ask me the option of towel or sauna, and just put me in sauna!
I asked for the soft massage. I did not like the way she did, not enthusiastic at all. I asked in the meanwhile if there are other services I can opt for and pay for it. She just said nothing except massage. She did not even disrobe herself (wearing a long single piece) or let me even do or touch anything at all. Worst part was that shower and massage with HJ was only 30minuts (instead of 1 hour). I asked her if the package was 1 hour and she said yes. I did not ask her more about why she finished in 30mins then. I was frustrated for getting 1/2hour service when I paid 70 bucks with 20bucks tip, that also with no entertaining services!
I would never ever recommend this spa to anyone!!! expensive and not worth at all!
Rash Lover
07-24-04, 03:00
Does someone have information on...
Which are the good AMPs (just for good massage)?
Names of AMPs in Baltimore/Jessup/Columbia area where service more than just plain massage is available?
Also, How is the FS/BJ negotiated with the girl; before or after the massage? any tips on approaching the girl?
Share some ideas please.
Thanks!
Connaisseur
07-24-04, 11:34
Rash -
If you study the posts in this and the Baltimore board, you will find the answers to all your questions.
Depending on the place and situation, the girl may ask you something along the lines of "what are we doing today, Honey?", typically after the regular massage is over. Leaving a tip in plain sight may also be the way to go at some AMPs (refer to the Wash. DC board for details).
Happy hunting!
Conn.
Drummerboy, Torpedo12,
I have been to Kyoto several times over the last 3 years. Each time I have seen at lest one provider in sweet shirt or pants. Only once was my provider dressed this way that was on my first trip. However, it did not effect the service at all. I have had no complaints.
Rash:
I use to frequent Rainbow often and never saw a provider over 35, 24 was, I would guess, that average.
DrummerBoy
07-25-04, 00:10
Rash Lover,
Your experience at Rainbow happens to all of us from time to time. Wish you included the girl's name with your report. Service like that would make the customers shun her and then maybe she would learn her lesson!
There is no excuse for shorting you to half time when you paid the area's highest fee for an hour. I would have asked for the manager and say that. Sometimes the spas will short you if they are extremely busy. You indicated that they were not-strike two.
Rainbow's services can be very good or just so-so. I used to go there for years but got tired of their policies and YMMV behavior. I think repeat customers should be treated with exceptional service. That is the idea, to keep them coming back??
just my two cents
Dem Gnomes
07-25-04, 00:35
Visited Towson, MD, last week, and got lost a bunch of times. I found three references in the forum search, but could only locate one of AMPs listed. (Naturally, I went twice.)
There's a place called Jade Heart Health (NOT health spa, or anything else, just 'Jade Heart Health'). I couldn't find a reference to it in the Yellow Pages, but I saw a hand-waving mention to a "place in the 1400 block of Joppa."
After going the wrong direction on the wrong Joppa, I realized where I should be and turned around. The place is at 1406 Joppa, and it's one of about a dozen buildings that were houses twenty years ago but have now been rezoned into law offices, mortgage companies, and of course one AMP.
$.7 fee seemed high for an hour, but I was new and willing to see what came of it. Turns out it was alright -- the 'new girl' was getting some pointers from the pudgy-but-real-cute mamasan. As a result, my massage was four-handed for most of the time. (Woo-hoo!)
Lili (lee-lee? ling-ling?) was the mamasan that left just before the flip. Tina was the inexperienced young thing that knew just what to do. She didn't have a problem with being topless, and her B-cups defied gravity as only small young cups can do.
Dem Travelling Gnomes
Connaisseur
07-25-04, 14:58
Gnomes,
I have been to Jade on Joppa myself a few times. I can only share your opinion, although I have never had "Tina".
You can park in the back of the bldg., the only weird thing is entering through the kitchen, while "Papasan" is fixing supper...
Anyways, I have never been disappointed there, as long as I was in the mood for a "regular" only.
Conn.
Rash Lover
07-25-04, 21:58
Thank you guys for the responses and sharing ideas! May be I was unlucky to get the service from a little overweight 35-40yrs old (her face skin was like that), that too for just 1/2 hour. As She indistinctly mentioned her name, her name was Kay (?). So, beware of Kay, Kee, Kyl, or a name like that :-)
Definitely I am gonna go to other AMPs but not to rainbow, unless receive some better feedback from someone :-)
Rash
Rash Lover,
Somedays are just bad days. But, Kay has provided many pleasurable moments. Sure, she is not 21, and she is not a thin waif. However, she is a nice, sensual, beautiful woman with a knock-out rack and body. As to extras, some such things are of course illegal, so you can imagine that she might wonder why a first time visitor is asking. Rainbow will never meet some's expectations, but for a clean AMP with nice women, it is good for an hour. I hate the $70, but go back because I always smile when I am leaving.
Kay can be a dream. My few less pleasurable times were few, and I told the girl and the Mama San just what I thought. They made it right.
Connaisseur
07-30-04, 09:44
Quick AMP update...stopped by "Jade" on Joppa, Mamasan said they were busy at the moment and to come back later. Saw an LE cruiser parked across the way on the way out...
Continued to Lotus; Mamasan = provider "Anna", nice looking and in her early 30ies, but...MHS alert (Money Hungry S...t)!! After a nice massage and the flip she was popping the question. I just wanted a HJ, but she was aking for the money up front, .5(!!!), and would not even take off one piece of clothing (I gave her 2 Jacksons and told her that's all I had). With a house fee of 50/70, that is outrageous IMHO...is inflation hitting town that badly?!
If you, my fellow mongers, happen to hit that place and to make Anna's acquaintance, PLEASE DO NOT give in to her demands. This is Baltimore, and not NY...!
Conn.
DrummerBoy
07-30-04, 15:11
Thanks for the info Connaisseur. Lotus has been a severe YMMV stigma in my book. There are better places.
After skipping a very limited and un appealing w/w sw menu I decided to opt for at rip to Jessup's finest AMP. Saw July, have seen her before. Nice looking brunett with a small chest.
Excellent TS, followed by OK massage. Typical July finish with a great flip and HJ. She included a lil rimm and some light BBBJ before the finish for added satisaction.
Walking Around
08-02-04, 21:13
New to the area and here is my first encounter with an area AMP.
I needed a massage and was close to the Lotus, decided to give it a try even with some bad reports. Guess I got lucky or my standards are lower because I had a good time. I got a girl named caffe or kathy I didn't quite catch it. She was a little older which I don't mind because her body still looked pretty good. I had a short sauna then a good cleaning and a really relaxing massage she took her time and walked on my back and did a real massage. Then I got a nice HJ and daty for the first time in a new joint that was good for me. I would go back if I can get the same girl. Maybe I will check out the other places first, like they say you never know what your missing till you try it.
Dem Gnomes
08-03-04, 21:43
Mmmm... Jade
Mmmm... Tina
Mmmm... Donuts
Again. $.7/.5
I live in the DC area and don't get to Jessup too often, but wanted to add some info on Rainbow. I have seen many over the years at Rainbow - Candy, Mickey, Sara, and others. Boy, do I miss Mickey - nice rack and tanlines. I believe I've read she moved on some time ago, but I always ask and they say she is not working that day. "I bring you nice girl,' is the usual response.
I stopped in about 3 weeks ago and saw an older woman, probably about 35ish. I can't remember her name, but she said she was Korean. She was taller with an all over tan. Attractive with a little extra baggage in some areas. Nice TS followed by a decent massage. The big surprise was that she rimmed, extensively! After the flip and the 'who have you seen here before', she asked me what I wanted! I opted for a BJ (not sure if FS was on the menu) and she obliged. She didn't seem to big on the roaming hands or completely disrobing though. Good BJ, which I didn't realize was covered until the end. Would repeat if I remembered her name. Offered 3 jacks and she seemed pleased.
Dropped in again last week and it must have been packed. I was immediately taken to the back corner room with the floor mattress. It must have been crowded, as I waited for about a half hour and didn't have time for the full hour. Got another old provider, probably 35ish again, name not understandable. She was short and had shorter, curly hair. Decent massage and flipped to a HJ. Nothing else offered and didn't ask as I was short on time. She did allow roaming hands. Tip was 2 jacks.
Apologies for being so bad with names. It sucks when I find somebody I'd repeat with and can't remember names.
Big Otis
Visited Rainbow again today. GREAT EXPERIENCE! Asked for my usual girl but mamasan said she's on vacation. To bad, over the last few months I was able to build a good repor with her. She knew exactly how I liked everything, and I knew her as well. Do you think shes gone for good? Anyways, got a new girl and she took care of me better than the old girl. Great TS and DATY. No FS though. Afterwards GREAT MASSAGE. She really streched the muscles and knew what she was doing massgeing the muscles.
Has anyone gotten FS lately at Rainbow? I still go there because the girls and the place are clean, smell good, and always have an enthusatic attitude. Ive been to a few others but they were either no girls, or they were older and unbathed.
DrummerBoy
08-09-04, 23:48
Right now, during election year, the regulars most likely won't speak up because they don't want to get their girls in trouble with the owner or LE.
A few years ago I was fortunate enough to get it all at Rainbow including BBBJTCIM with swallow or BBFS with a beautiful woman (I was a regular) for about a year. She had a body of a 25 year old with no signs of ever having children. I nailed her every chance I got! I learned her real age was 48 when she was arrested (then acquitted) during the great HC Round Up of "98. I would have laughed at my mistake if it didn't put a crimp in my fun. She called me later and I went to her new place of work. She got married and retired last I know.
A second one only gave me BBBJCIM one time (she was mad at her boyfriend to get even with him, so she said) and FS with raincoat that I provided for about a year.
I've been there from time to time and agree with you that they give a great TS and massage. "extra" services have their limits for now for most. The only complaint that I have is that they frequently "short" your time sometimes in half. It wouldn't be a big deal but they charge the highest rate in the area and they do it too often. That is how they lost me as a regular customer.
Both workers I won't name (owner knows them) and they don't work there anymore. I only mention this because, even though most MD AMPS don't provide more than a HJ, it is attainable in any of them once you establish yourself as a regular and nice customer.
DrummerBoy
08-09-04, 23:51
Dem Gnomes,
Is that Jade Shiatzu or another Jade. mmmm.
Walking Around,
Lotus treated you pretty good for a place with a lot of bad reviews. If HJ is all you want, Rainbow (further south on RT1 in the junction plaza behind the main bld) has very nice looking women who will treat you even better. There are others with older woman, but mostly very good around the county if you check the posts.
Walking Around
08-10-04, 01:55
Thanks for the info Drummerboy. I like the other stuff too! Guess I will just have to check out all the ones in the area. Its a rough job but someone has to do it.
Ref the Rainbow reports. Although Rainbow has a limit on the services provided, I find the providers to be generally very enjoyable. They are clean, attractive, and stay longer than at some AMPs. That said, over the past five years I have had many experiences at Rainbow, and only had four bad days. On three of them, I had tried a new provider and was disappointed as they demanded money up front, and then disappointed me. I took the time to politely speak with the Mama San, and then pointedly refused a second try with two of them. Oddly, another monger raved about Sue, and I did not like her at all. Maybe it was a bad day. I wish FS was on the menu, but I have enough fun for the money to return, often. I do resent the $70 hour fee. Miss Mickey, but still love to see Kay and Anna. Might have to try the new girls.
I tried a few MP that were listed in "city paper". The first one, Green tree in Baltimore on Reisterstown rd. The paper said 7 days a week, 10-11pm all oriental staff. I found it, and a note on the door said "Enter from back Door" Went around and went in. Had to climb some stairs and was hearing oriental talk in the background. I rung the door bell and thought this is going to be a good "Massage". Well a beautiful asian girl approx. 115# answerd the door and said "were closed must make appointment". What a disappointment. Anyways Drove back down and around 695 and stopped at Golden Health spa. I struck out there too. "I'm Glad" A 50 year old looking woman answerd wearing to much makeup, a leopard minidress , and boots said "busy come back in 1 hr". I left and went to my trusty place Rainbow. The worst experience yet. I got a 30 something girl I think her name was young. Very pushy and nervous. I talked to her and found out she had been there 18 months. She was very mechanical and I felt rushed. When the flip occured she was faking everything. "I know all the girls do this" But like I said before very mechanical. I also found out that my favorite girl Anna is gone. The girl said her father died and doesnt know when she will be back. She was my favorite, Always happy to see me and I felt she always enjoyed my company. She even spoke to the other girls because when I was getting a massage the other day the girl said your the one Anna always talked about. She always did the little extra's after the main event that made the difference. I'm sorry to see her leave. Does anyone know about the Mp on Rt 1 north of college park.
Rash Lover
08-14-04, 19:40
Hi All!
I was wondering if someone has been to these places (or even heard), and do they offer any services except plain massage?
Oriental Spa (6325 Washington Blvd, Elkridge)
Hydroxy Inc (3700 Koppers St, Halethorpe)
Destination Relaxation (111 Elm Rd, Linthicum Heights)
Lotus Shiatsu Massage (7840 Washington Blvd, Baltimore)
I have seen Lotus word being used at some places in discussion forum. Is it the same as above? please provide any info if you have. sorry if i repeated some questions being asked before. It would be helpful to know about these places! :-)
Rash
DrummerBoy
08-15-04, 00:33
The Lotus referred to on this board is the Lotus Shiatsu on Washington BLVD. Not much good to say about that AMP.
The Oriental Spa in Elkridge has been closed and the owner arrested for attempting to bribe local and state LE. Long story short, it hasn't reopened that I know of and he is serving time in the local license plate manufacturing facility.
The other two I never heard of before, but by their name, I doubt if they are AMPs and doubt seriously if they offer anything near FS.
Alan Duval
08-16-04, 11:00
This is for those who dis Rainbow because they don't offer fs:
Saturday: On my way home from a very, very, very long day, nearly midnight, as I crossed the 32/1 intersection... and I really felt like a massage to work out the tensions of the day. I'd already had 2 pops Saturday, so wasn't look for that... just massage. (I'm in my 50's, and can remember the old days when multiple pops were easily had!) So I decided to slip into Rainbow. (If I want much more than that, I would never go to Rainbow -- but sometimes it's great to have an really pretty girl with a great attitude just attend to your poor tired bones!)
Lucy was terrific. Usually at the TS you already know what's coming. When the provider spends a lot of time ensuring a really clean back door -- it often results in a delightful experience later. I was so pleased with Lucy.
However, the prior 2 pops on top of the long, exhausting day, had taken their toll. Lucy was committed to the pop. In the end she suggested adding a second girl (for additional tariff, of course). Ok... this took things to a whole new level. Sophie came in (not the same Sophie as at Lily's). So there we were, finger in Lucy, daty with Sophie, 2 very attractive girls and 4 hands all working in enthusiastic concert.
I left Rainbow with a whole new appreciation for the place!
18Wheels12Roses
08-17-04, 22:46
Hey Fellow Spa Mongers,
Just wanted to let you all North of the Beltway know of a little spot I found. It is called the Lily Spa in Laurel, MD. After reading everyone's posts I wasn't sure where to try my FS luck. I found Lily's just past the bridge and saw [Name delete by Admin]. She was a 8 on the AMP scale in looks and a 10 in attitude. She gives a great body shower, and a pretty decent massage. Then down to the nitty gritty. She was big into foreplay and got pretty excited with some DATY. Only thing I wasn't greatful for was the uncovered action, so if you go, bring your own! Until next time, enjoy those massages!
On 08-21-04 I received the following rebuttal to the information contained in this report:
The lady that is mentioned in this post has recently found out her name being posted on this site, and asked me to look into it for her. As such, the comments made in this post may be interpreted as a personal attack against her. The owner of the parlour does read the messages on this board and will use the information, true or false, to release the massueses working there. In this case, the massuese mentioned in this post is in danger of losing her job, and possibly her certified massage therapist license, as she is waiting for renewal, all based upon some false information that was posted. If you look at the history of the board(s), you will not find any such information even close to what is being posted about this particular parlour, as it would appear that this post is deliberate disinformation. After talking with this lady, she was absolutely furious and perplexed as to why anyone would post such a lie. She also informed me that there was similar disinformation albout another masseuse that the owner read in the past, not necessarily from this board, and the owner had fired that massuese, even though it was false. If she is fired, her chances of having her license renewed will be in jeopardy, as well as the time and money lost in having to re-do the process of renewal and finding employment. I am asking, as a favor for her, that you either remove the post or edit the post to omit the name, as to not slander the lady mentioned and help her keep her job and the renewal of her license. Thank you.Thanks,
Jackson
18 Wheels
Interesting post.
Never had FS at Lily's, ever.
I dont doubt you, but they are known for not giving FS, but real close to it.
The massuese you mention, can you provide more information on her? Reminds me of a former spa attendant whom I would give my left nut to see again. If it was her, then there is no doubt in my mind that FS was recieved.
However, in the same breath, I would caution with the old parable about the goose that laid the golden egg.
If FS was recieved there, it may be wise to consider releasing that information backchannel only.
Posting too much may make Bonnie, the owner, a little pissed off -as she is internet literate.
Thanks for the information.
Walking Around
08-19-04, 00:30
Had an unique experience tonight. I stopped at the TA and was setting in my vehicle doing paperwork when a Lot Lizard approached me and ask if I could give her a ride down the street a small way.
I said ok and Pat got in. She was dressed nice and had a decent body from what I could see but had some age on her. She was not my usual type but do-able. I had to pass as money was low.
She says she works M-TH. Having a CB helps she said as not many will approach anything but semi's unless prearranged.
Walking Around
08-19-04, 00:57
Must be horny night at the TA. I just saw 2 black Lot Lizards strutting around. One is ok but the other wearing red shoes is hot. But they were shopping the semi's and not us 4 wheel folk.
The semi's offer them a lot of protection. Maybe I will become a trucker and start a mobile brothel. Probably already been done.
I was talking to the drivers and found out the going rate is 4 jacksons for FS.
Walking Around
08-22-04, 03:39
Went to Lily's. I got there late so I expected to be rushed a little. I got Sara she was ok in looks but wanted money up front before anything happened and was way over priced. But since I was horny I got a HJ and a little DATY.
All in all I felt that I had a better experience at Lotus than at Lily's. I WILL NOT be a repeat customer at Lily's. I know many will disagree with me but I can only go by my own experiences.
Rash Lover
08-26-04, 16:49
Hi all,
I hope some experienced guys help me in hunting and safe hunting.
I have been reading all the posts in this forum since long. it seems that either AMP or some street hunting is the best bet. i want to try out this nirvana no matter who the girl is :-), but after reading the forum, am skeptic about how safe it is going to be.
Safe sex is of utmost important but wonder how would you judge the girl about safety factor by just looking at her assets. e.g. how to make sure DATY is going to be safe on an unknown girl. I want to encounter with someone who gives me no more than pleasure (may be phone number ;), but no herpes or std or craps like that!
Are there some particular tips/ideas people would like to share to help people in my category? it's indeed a great help! :-)
A Big Question: how do you trace a SW. I wanna go for hunt but needs some clues on it: good time, how to catch her attention, how to offer and more.
Rash
EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to capitalize the word "I". To avoid future delays, please use a capital "I" to refer to yourself in future reports. Thanks!
The Newbie
08-29-04, 22:33
Went to the R-Spa Sat night. I have been to there about 5 times now and it is always a satisfying experience. I highly recommend Deedee. She did a fantastic job and I felt great on my way out the door. No extras beyond normal R-Spa fare but she did a great job with the TS, massage, and finish. Tipped 3J's. YMMV.
Usual good time at the Junction Spa, usual tip. Older provoder, great massage, nice flip/finish, only negative was her rock hard fakies.
Sandman227
09-03-04, 15:28
Okay, okay: who all was at the R-spa last night, lol. I went in there at roughly 10:30pm, and the place was packed! I did have a very nice time with May, however. LFK, mutual asian, DATY, and HJ= 6 Jacks.
Sandman227
09-03-04, 15:32
Sorry: Meant to say 3 Jacks.
Rash Lover
09-04-04, 20:11
Labor day holiday. Nice long weekend for hunting and visiting spa's. hope you guys enjoying it :-)
Visited Moonlight 3 days back. It was wonderful. A very pretty young lady calling herself Helen came for service. I would rate her 9.5 out of 10 on look. She was nothing less than a model! TS was okay, abit quicker than other girls but was enjoyable. I offered 1.0 in tips, that's all I had and got incredible service from her. She had the perfect figure which I look for. Amazing time together. I could play with her. Got good FS from her. She is just too good.
Let's summarize, she is the best ever in my up-to-date acount :-)
Walking Around
09-07-04, 02:32
Hit the Lotus since I was close and mostly for just the massage but I got Soonee and she was ok in looks but only did a hand massage no walk on the back. She does have a soft sexy touch though and gave a nice HJ. She has very long hair and kept running it over my body as she was touching me almost enough to make me pop with just that.
Sandman227
09-07-04, 09:15
Hit R-spa again last night, and was introduced to Judy. About 5'5", thin, with enhancements. She was a very sweet lady who only works weekends, I believe. Ended up tipping 4 Jacks (2 reasons: she was very nice, and I was hoping for a bit more), daty and hj.
Kelvin Vanilly
09-08-04, 16:33
I really dont get how a lot of you do DATY at these MP's and with SW's. Shit you might as well drink a cup of the sludge found at the bottom of a new york city trash can. I know a lot of these asians are sexy as hell and smell fresh out the shower but you know how many Johnsons she prob had in a day, in a week, in a year. You might as well give bjs to 200 random mongers
DrummerBoy
09-09-04, 10:10
Well put Kelvin. DATY should be with protection as well. The providers get way more action than normal and way too many DATY as well.
Has anyone noticed that the rates have gone up in HC? .7 and .5 is the norm now.
I have also DATY and found some of these gals to be rather tasty. But I have always wondered after if I would get the gift that keeps on giving.
I enjoy the table shower, the massage and the flip, whatever happens after that is a bonus and I base my tip on that.
I have been to most of the Jessup establishments and now favor the ones that are more out of the way. The attitudes of the route one girls usually is less than great.
Notice to All!
Save your money and do not go to Lilly Spa in Laurel. They are going down hill fast. Not only have the joined the recent rate increase now .50/.70 but the service is the absolute worst. I've been there atleast 15 times in the last 2 yrs. and the staff is getting more and more disappointing. I had this one jerk, lets call her COOKIE, nice face and body around mid 20's only about the money and she as well as others there will try to suck as much money out of you as possible. Piss poor service. The manager knows that she has a bad attitude but does not care because she brings in a lot of $$$$$. They don't even give FS but want a benny for a freakin HJ and tit rub. PLEASE. If you lay out your $$$ first, its all over, either you are going to pay what they want and get beat, or if you give what is fair and reasonable 9 times out of 10 they will not like what you give and give even a more wack service. Either way, you are screwed. So please what ever you do, STAY AWAY FROM LILLY SPA IN LAUREL.
No FS, Bad Attitudes and Overall Piss Poor Service.
You can't say you have not been warned.
DrummerBoy
09-21-04, 08:41
That's why I don't go there. Thanks for telling it like it is Carlos!
She has been there a long time. I saw here several years ago, bad attitude terrible massage and service. Cookie is number f...king 10.
I even asked for another girl on a visit and still got her.
Avoid Lillys, who is lilly anyhow?
Got to admit she is a beautiful girl, to bad she knows it.
Walking Around,
Saw your posts about lot lizzards at TA. Which TA was it and what time of day was it? I've always wanted to try that one time.
Butter Dog
09-24-04, 21:18
Open weekend + spouse and offspring units out of town + few extra bucks burning a hole in the pocket = AMP.
I just spent the last few minutes RIFF for the current "Best of". Seeing that this board is a little slow right now, I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions. I have always been a sort of Random Man, so I don't hold any allegiance one any one AMP or provider. My recent (and above-average reviews) have been for Pine Tree. However, being Random Man, I must move on.
Looks like the current favorites are Hana and Moonlight (and possibly Jade, but not sure which one. The Jessup Junction Jade was where I lost my AMP cherry, but let's not rehash history). Any news on Frederick Road Jade? That's the third choice on the short list.
Not on the list: Rainblow (RIFF), Bacco (don't waste the time), Lily's (too far, plus recent RIFF reviews).
Not to make this sound like a crappy Survivor spin-off, give your vote for me to get off the AMP of your choice. Detailes to be provided Sunday.
Butter D.
Happened to be driving by the truckstop back road last night and saw a blonde with a nice set of knockers in the shadows of a non lit area of the road.
Circled back and asked if she needed a ride, and naturally received a no - as most "lot lizards" dont like cars.
Came back again and was more direct and asked if she wanted to have some fun and response was something like I am looking for a good time.
She got in.
Older unit, say late 30s maybe even early 40s.
Says she gets 2 Jacksons for BJ from most truckers. TOld her I pay one Jackson and tip if good. Fine.
Went to a very nice spot.
Although the BJ was covered, it was excellent (which I rarely ever experience with a helmet). Tits were easily DD if not E's and totally natural (just the way I like it. Angel is her name. Tipped her another Jackson.
Told me about 15 to 20 girls are workign the area although most are on the lot proper.
THink I may swing by the truck stop more often!
Monger on
clix
Clix,
Where is this truckstop?
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