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JZLizard
05-23-15, 05:42
The title says it all. This thread exists as an index to the ever-growing monster thread.

Zcochran00
05-23-15, 18:26
As promised, I'm going to put together some collections of links to useful posts earlier in the main thread. We'll start with some definitions, a link to an earlier attempt to index useful posts, and some tips on formatting posts:

Common Acronyms and Phrases on the USASG SB Richmond Thread

(collected by HollywoodGuy on his "Five Steps" page at http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivesteps):

BCG. Booty call girl.

The Bowl. Short for sugar bowl.

FC. Fuck chamber.

GPS. Golden pussy syndrome.

HCB. Hot college babe.

HYB. Hot young babe.

M&G. Meet and greet.

Nando 1 - lowest level girl with a lot of drama.

POT. A potential SB.

SA - seekingarrangement.com.

SD4 M - sugardaddyforme.com.

SO. Significant other.

UTR. Under the radar (a pro on the down low).

Girl Rating System

(per post #4363 and post #7265).

Four numbers: Face / body / personality / skills or body / face / personality / skills.

Three numbers: face / body / skills (having the personality and skills in one number).

Previous Index Posts

SubCmdr post #2773. Points back to earlier posts on terms, security, rating systems, and gifts.

Post Formatting Help

USA uses the vBulletin forum software, which allows posts to be formatted using a set of tags called BBCode. There's at list of formatting tags at https://www.vbulletin.org/forum/misc.php?do=bbcode. Note that the "URL option" format doesn't seem to work on this board. I also have no idea why the board adds extra blank lines and mangles single-letter words.

On the other hand, there's a very useful tag for linking to specific posts on the board without using an entire URL. Enter it like this:

link description text here , where the post number is found at the end of the link you can copy from the upper-right corner of each post (like http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=1694021&viewfull=1#post1694021).

There are some useful tools for writing formatted posts out there. I'm writing this in BBCEditor from http://fenixproductions.dcmembers.com/bbc/ , and there's others as well.

Zcochran00
05-23-15, 18:27
Posts on how to handle contacting girls, setting up profiles, and handling initial negotiations. Note that these are in the order I found them, not chronological order:

John G Smith post #2285: red / green / pro flags in profiles.

F Scott post #2288: more red flags.

GuyWoodson post #1687: general SA guidelines / approach.

John G Smith post #1898: getting additional info via FB profiles, and unequal identity concerns.

HollywoodGuy post #2088: First version of his stock contact message.

John G Smith post #2233: screening guidelines and approaches.

HollywoodGuy post #2246: direct approach and what girls want.

John G Smith post #2250: caution with message wording.

SubCmdr post #2409: blunt approach to intentions.

Obx Fun post #15: general approach.

ThudPucker post #24: honesty in intentions.

Literal2 post #75: filtering time wasters.

Literal2 post #233: general approach.

Literal2 post #294: more approaches.

F Scott post #300: thoughts after posting a fake SB profile.

BigTigger post #405: approach for using the AM site.

Literal2 post #914: getting an agreement.

Coolhand2 post #918: first-time meetings right at the FC.

F Scott post #941: contact using words from their profile.

HollywoodGuy post #3320: approaching sugar as a salesperson.

HollywoodGuy post #4222: looking for a "friendly handshake" on the sale.

Revvo post #4711: adjusting your approach to match their expectations.

F Scott post #5015: polishing your profile and first message.

Revvo post #5116: being patient with an "abundance mentality".

Pats Fan1 post #5340: confidence and contacts.

UKnowWho post #5583: avoid "spoiled" and "pampered".

John G Smith post #5997: asking for pics to help filter prospects.

JeezLizard post #6101: organizing and tracking prospects.

DirtyDeeds38 post #6189: filtering and contacting approach.

DirtyDeeds38 post #6395: mentioning sugar and handling expectations.

FredMoore post #6396: making expectations clear.

John G Smith post #6397: caution with negotiating money.

FotoGuy1970 post #6693: answers to approach questions.

HollywoodGuy post #6956: Second version of his stock contact message.

ThirdCoaster post #6974: consistency between profile and message.

F Scott post #7787: quickly contacting new additions to the site.

JeezLizard post #8243: explanation for girls saying "I won't do. " in their profiles.

HollywoodGuy post #8252: Third version of his 5 Steps message.

HollywoodGuy post #8296: templates for mentioning donations.

HollywoodGuy post #8850: selectiveness and negotiating.

HollywoodGuy post #8978: Responding to a GPS request.

Zcochran00
05-23-15, 20:15
John G Smith post #1808: M&G advantages and planning.

AliasSM post #1810: necessity of M&Gs.

TravelinSD post #1813: value of M&Gs.

Varoom post #226: finding common ground and deciding.

Magic Rat post #346: "no expectations"+respect approach.

CantWinLosin post #2515: no up-front sugar for M&Gs.

FredMoore post #4207: purpose is getting a feel for each other.

FredMoore post #5114: nail down expectations at the M&G.

FyrGuy33 post #5905: setting expectations up front.

IluvSmellyFish post #8281: finding chemistry can mean less sugar needed.

FyrGuy33 post #8410: pay for expenses, but not showing up.

Zcochran00
05-23-15, 20:16
AliasSM post #2768: Pricing lessons learned.

AliasSM post #1975: Price range, and inability to give less later.

John G Smith post #1938: economics and setting expectations.

JoesParty post #1979: good guys get cheaper agreements.

Zomby post #1996: Followup thoughts on an Ideal SB and allowance.

SubCmdr post #2114: tie cash to desired important things.

Hernando post #412: expectation categories.

Golfcart post #416: never discuss gifts.

Hernando post #497: prices per date.

Hernando post #659: long-term costs and agreeing up-front.

Golfcart post #692: giving reasonable sugar.

F Scott post #981: non-cash sugar, and juggling SBs.

F Scott post #2514: no first M&G gifts, value of small tokens.

John G Smith post #2598: focus on covering her expenses.

John G Smith post #2769: getting the whole SB experience, bidding strategy.

F Scott post #2938: giving cash and extras.

John G Smith post #2962: monthly / meet totals, Green Dot, paying expenses.

BigTigger post #3798: tips for finding low sugar SBs.

HollywoodGuy post #3907: non-cash gift ideas.

BigTigger post #3908: extra gifts for the first date.

Revvo post #4505: SB savings.

FredMoore post #4568: payment guidlines (PAYGO, performance, limits).

Dolato post #5235: stating facts rather than "negotiating".

Showtime2020 post #5238: date prices, useful planning questions.

HollywoodGuy post #5259: sticking with a particular limit.

HollywoodGuy post #5387: gift plus covering room etc.

HollywoodGuy post #5729: per-date expense sums.

JeezLizard post #5773: post-date contacting, making dates fun and skipping discussion.

Dsprdo post #6198: offer success rates.

JeezLizard post #6447: pay cut demotivations.

John G Smith post #6460: cash+giftcards, physical gifts.

John G Smith post #6729: asking what they're looking for.

FeelGoodMd post #7003: responding to high expectations.

Dsprdo post #8284: up-front mentions, no sugar for M&G.

FyrGuy33 post #8457: SD controls rates, not SB.

Zcochran00
05-23-15, 20:16
Literal2 post #89: frequency of locations.

FredMoore post #4357: acceptability of cheap hotels.

F Scott post #4358: avoiding paper trails.

FredMoore post #6529: going to their place instead of a hotel.

HollywoodGuy post #6575: check-in handling.

HollywoodGuy post #7204: meeting location recount.

IluvSmellyFish post #7921: booking sites and date costs.

IluvSmellyFish post #7931: M&G / hotel / FC location options.

IluvSmellyFish post #8483: booking timing.

Zcochran00
05-24-15, 11:12
HollywoodGuy post #2107: getting agreement for sex on the first date.

JeezLizard post #6179: playing the "Sure, I'll go shopping" card.

JeezLizard post #6610: girls asking for rough sex.

DirtyDeeds38 post #6611: more rough sex.

JeezLizard post #8701: the value of staying fit and exercising.

FyrGuy33 post #8957: attractiveness of kissing and going down.

Zcochran00
05-24-15, 11:14
HollywoodGuy post #203: the ideal target personality.

Hernando post #783: the "Nando #" category system.

John G Smith post #1987: the "Ideal SB Experience".

Literal2 post #1665: SB financial motivations.

Hernando post #378: Expanded category descriptions.

HighCotton post #4955: common types of SBs.

FredMoore post #5894: Pros and cons of age groups.

JeezLizard post #7876: Dancing vs sexual ability, and AA tendencies.

HollywoodGuy post #7877: AA tendencies.

DirtyDeeds38 post #8796: Lessons learned about many SBs.

Zcochran00
05-24-15, 11:15
Literal2 post #136: building anticipation.

Droo89 post #1211: be respectful, talk sugar, don't fear rejection.

Literal2 post #190: managing the relationship.

John G Smith post #2749: multiple "Yes"es needed to get to the FC.

ChiGuy606 post #4128: make them comfortable to help convince them.

BigTigger post #5325: appeal to the woman in her.

FredMoore post #5779: business deal, setting tone.

John G Smith post #6214: defining "success" and goals.

John G Smith post #6319: enjoying the chase, being direct.

JeezLizard post #7024: time and work needed.

FredMoore post #7654: negotiations and requirements.

JeezLizard post #7674: women and negotiating.

RubberyMan post #7704: curiosity, convincing, game, and keeping you in mind later.

DogSun post #7713: physical hints.

HollywoodGuy post #7714: screening, persona, and game.

JeezLizard post #7722: understanding how women think.

LandonR post #8451: we're in control and set the rules.

Zcochran00
05-24-15, 11:16
F Scott post #1993: a list of best practices for staying anonymous.

SubCmdr post #1802: why not to let someone stay in a hotel room you booked.

John G Smith post #2646: ways your real name or address might be revealed.

BigTigger post #2648: changing hotel reservation names.

John G Smith post #2697: protecting your identity.

F Scott post #2721: secret identity approach recap.

John G Smith post #2726: using Google Voice for an alternate phone number.

BikeRider post #4024: looking up SB info.

JeezLizard post #8119: more anonymity suggestions.

JZLizard
09-17-15, 19:30
To ignore a poster you'd prefer not to read, click on their name, View Profile, and select Add To Ignore List on your left.

You will not see posts from them and they will be unable to send you private messages.

It takes far less time to perform this simple action than it does to complain or instigate problems with the user you disagree with.

JZLizard
11-18-16, 19:33
Normally I don't do this, but I thought it was worth making an exception. I am providing a link to a series of posts on sugar baby addiction that is in another thread. The conversation I'm targeting originally was posted to the Richmond SB thread, but was later moved into the more general sexual addiction section.

When that conversation was going on, I noticed the posts disappeared, but at the time thought they were simply deleted and saw no indicator where to find them. Kind of unfortunate because the original topic that came up specifically involved an addiction to SA itself, however I do understand some of the challenges of moderation and why they could be seen as being common ground with the subject of sexual addiction.

I mostly just wanted to provide here an entry point to that discussion. In the event that the subject of sugar site addiction arises again in the Richmond thread, this should help everyone find any moved posts on the subject more easily.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4228-Sexual-Addiction-Reports&p=3109284&viewfull=1#post3109284

The one thing to realize as you view that thread is that some of the posters may not even be participants in the Richmond thread, or may not be involved in the sugar scene at all, they may be talking about addiction to BP girls, escorts, etc. And at least to me the motives for quitting each scenario (or perhaps I should say the act of choosing one scenario over the other in the first place) would be very different. To others there may be enough overlap between the topics to treat them interchangeably.

JZLizard
05-31-17, 19:05
FarFarAway describes the Hilton Day Rate option:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3364991&viewfull=1#post3364991

FarFarAway discussing success with "Hotels By Day":
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3392405&viewfull=1#post3392405

Rdudreaming discusses requesting a layover rate for hotels near airports:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3395330&viewfull=1#post3395330

F Scott discusses apps and website solutions for daytime hotel rooms:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3394994&viewfull=1#post3394994

Lovecchio on lining up several rooms and other tactics:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3399396&viewfull=1#post3399396

GuyInTheCorner on early check-in option at large hotels:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3400533&viewfull=1#post3400533

TravelinSD on his approach to early checkins:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3400941&viewfull=1#post3400941

KingBaby
05-21-18, 15:48
Seems like we didn't lose any of the text. We'll just have to re-index almost everything.

Zcochran00
05-25-18, 01:10
Seems like we didn't lose any of the text. We'll just have to re-index almost everything.I just tried clicking a link in the latest post, and it actually correctly redirected to the right URL. So, I think it's actually still working as-is.

Zcochran00
09-10-18, 20:36
I just posted some technical instructions on how to view the contents of SA inbox messages when you don't have premium time enabled:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3939986&viewfull=1#post3939986.

VanAlden
08-16-19, 00:11
Dumb question. What is FC?

DavidByrne
08-16-19, 09:37
Dumb question. What is FC?Not a dumb question at all. The glossary for common terms, including FC, is in this post: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ&p=2480291&viewfull=1#post2480291.

Mark User
08-16-19, 13:21
Dumb question. What is FC?F*ck Chamber. Basically getting them away from the coffee or dinner table and into a room with expected intimacy.

Blauper2
12-04-19, 00:20
OK. I've had a couple of standard dreams, but want to find something that is more of a relationship. I know that sugar is a different gig, but it's pretty complicated for a newbie. I've got a standard account on SA and SB, but haven't bought premium yet. So, is there a guide somewhere with suggestions? Do you ever use your real name? Which service is best? Are there any entirely free sites out there? If I wanted to meet a couple times a month, could I do that for an allowance of say $250? I will certainly TOFTT, but I could definitely use some tips.

Also, I get lost reading the forums. Is there a way to separate out the different threads, and read them beginning to end? Thanks all, and stay safe.

Madaboutmax
01-01-20, 10:02
OK. I've had a couple of standard dreams, but want to find something that is more of a relationship. I know that sugar is a different gig, but it's pretty complicated for a newbie. I've got a standard account on SA and SB, but haven't bought premium yet. So, is there a guide somewhere with suggestions? Do you ever use your real name? Which service is best? Are there any entirely free sites out there? If I wanted to meet a couple times a month, could I do that for an allowance of say $250? I will certainly TOFTT, but I could definitely use some tips.

Also, I get lost reading the forums. Is there a way to separate out the different threads, and read them beginning to end? Thanks all, and stay safe.Go back to the start of this thread and it has the most common questions or topics indexed to great posts from the main SB thread on this Richmond board. If that is not simple enough for you, I'm afraid you will find Sugaring too complicated.

AutoRepairru
01-10-20, 22:52
OK. I've had a couple of standard dreams, but want to find something that is more of a relationship. I know that sugar is a different gig, but it's pretty complicated for a newbie. I've got a standard account on SA and SB, but haven't bought premium yet. So, is there a guide somewhere with suggestions? Do you ever use your real name? Which service is best? Are there any entirely free sites out there? If I wanted to meet a couple times a month, could I do that for an allowance of say $250? I will certainly TOFTT, but I could definitely use some tips.

Also, I get lost reading the forums. Is there a way to separate out the different threads, and read them beginning to end? Thanks all, and stay safe.You got to see it from the other side. If you pay me $250 a month for whatever you want to call whatever me and you got going. I'm going to need atleast 16 to 20 other relationships for a full timer. 6 to 10 for a part timer. So on and so forth.

You will always get what you pay for but the art of the deal is well the art of the deal.

Don't go broke, be safe have fun, the cheaper you are the cheaper the experience, and learn from others mistakes before you get in way over your big and little head =P.

DrYellow
01-13-20, 23:56
Glad I bumped into this post. This is leadership.


Not a dumb question at all. The glossary for common terms, including FC, is in this post: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ&p=2480291&viewfull=1#post2480291.

JayDwn
02-24-20, 22:14
I've read through a decent amount of the indexed articles (fantastic feature, BTW) that I thought might provide some insight on this very general question I have, and I've not found any. Forgive me if I've overlooked something. Presuming there is discourse on this somewhere, I would appreciate being pointed in the correct direction.

My question is, is LE a concern in sugar dating, specifically on SA? I've been approached by some girls with such direct information, with zero degree of finesse or use of the generally accepted terminology, that I've thought to myself, do I event want to participate in this conversation? Particularly when it comes to discussing $. Also, I've been in touch with a couple of 18 yo who were, like I just mentioned, so direct and explicit, I had to ask for photos of ID before continuing the chat. I'm still not entirely sure I'm comfortable threading that needle. Anyways, my question is, are there any reasons for being concerned that you are messaging, or texting with LE? Of note. I have chosen to conduct my allowance negotiations via a burner number, in advance of any meet.

Thank you in advance.

Vick1957
02-25-20, 06:44
I've read through a decent amount of the indexed articles (fantastic feature, BTW) that I thought might provide some insight on this very general question I have, and I've not found any. Forgive me if I've overlooked something. Presuming there is discourse on this somewhere, I would appreciate being pointed in the correct direction.

My question is, is LE a concern in sugar dating, specifically on SA? I've been approached by some girls with such direct information, with zero degree of finesse or use of the generally accepted terminology, that I've thought to myself, do I event want to participate in this conversation? Particularly when it comes to discussing $. Also, I've been in touch with a couple of 18 yo who were, like I just mentioned, so direct and explicit, I had to ask for photos of ID before continuing the chat. I'm still not entirely sure I'm comfortable threading that needle. Anyways, my question is, are there any reasons for being concerned that you are messaging, or texting with LE? Of note. I have chosen to conduct my allowance negotiations via a burner number, in advance of any meet.

Thank you in advance.You are performing due diligence and that is always to Your benefit. LE is typically after low hanging fruit and they try to maximize the most bang for the buck. In other words they prefer to catch Johns in sting operations by posting ads on forums and attempting to attract as many potential clients in order to have respectable numbers of arrests. I would still be very careful in my choice of verbiage, especially if your suspicion is aroused. Always better to defer on the side of caution by thinking with the correct head.

Shampoo55
06-14-20, 10:30
You are performing due diligence and that is always to Your benefit. LE is typically after low hanging fruit and they try to maximize the most bang for the buck. In other words they prefer to catch Johns in sting operations by posting ads on forums and attempting to attract as many potential clients in order to have respectable numbers of arrests. I would still be very careful in my choice of verbiage, especially if your suspicion is aroused. Always better to defer on the side of caution by thinking with the correct head.I would add, any girl who asks you to bring controlled substances is to be avoided. While a sting for hobby is usually a misdemeanor, drugs are felonies and don't go away. Overly aggressive ADAs looking to raise their "kill rate" will dig their teeth into you and not let go. So the addition of drugs makes the bust look better to management.

If you want a spine chilling tale of a girl having drugs in YOUR car and how you can get jammed up read this (post 1162) :

(sure it is a SW story, but the same could happen if you SB is in your car or in your hotel room).

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?7284-Streetwalker-Reports&p=4804397&viewfull=1#post4804397.

JMoneys
07-03-20, 19:04
I've read through a decent amount of the indexed articles (fantastic feature, BTW) that I thought might provide some insight on this very general question I have, and I've not found any. Forgive me if I've overlooked something. Presuming there is discourse on this somewhere, I would appreciate being pointed in the correct direction.

My question is, is LE a concern in sugar dating, specifically on SA? I've been approached by some girls with such direct information, with zero degree of finesse or use of the generally accepted terminology, that I've thought to myself, do I event want to participate in this conversation? Particularly when it comes to discussing $. Also, I've been in touch with a couple of 18 yo who were, like I just mentioned, so direct and explicit, I had to ask for photos of ID before continuing the chat. I'm still not entirely sure I'm comfortable threading that needle. Anyways, my question is, are there any reasons for being concerned that you are messaging, or texting with LE? Of note. I have chosen to conduct my allowance negotiations via a burner number, in advance of any meet.

Thank you in advance.I saw her about a month ago was great!

FarFarAway
08-02-20, 11:49
I saw her about a month ago was great!Why is this in the archive?

FarFarAway
04-01-21, 01:10
I just posted some technical instructions on how to view the contents of SA inbox messages when you don't have premium time enabled:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3939986&viewfull=1#post3939986.This technique doesn't work anymore, SA learned and fixed the glitch.

PartyTime5150
08-04-23, 05:58
First off, I'd like to thank all the absolute legends on this board. I've read through as much as I could over the last two weeks and I'm very pleased to report that I have three POTS on the line. I'll circle back as soon as I get my first in the FC. I would not be this far along without all of your sage wisdom.

I've noticed GPS running rampant on SA. So many girls only want an "online only SD" or "an SB / SD relationship, but strictly platonic". They must be completely out of their minds. For some of the prices they're asking, I could hire a pro twice over for half the effort.

HuslIslander
08-04-23, 10:54
Who was at the bar at Can Can yesterday with the hot blonde, mid twenties, with some tattoos on her arm? I was sitting next to you at the bar with some friends, and I was not trying to eaves drop but you were talking loud enough for me to hear. Sounded like you had a successful meet and greet. PM me whenever you are finished with this SB, whoever you are. I don't mind taking care of this hot blond when you move on.

Geechie Dan
08-04-23, 11:16
Who was at the bar at Can Can yesterday with the hot blonde, mid twenties, with some tattoos on her arm? I was sitting next to you at the bar with some friends, and I was not trying to eaves drop but you were talking loud enough for me to hear. Sounded like you had a successful meet and greet. PM me whenever you are finished with this SB, whoever you are. I don't mind taking care of this hot blond when you move on.It wasn't me, but I was at Can Can yesterday with my SB. LOL.

FarFarAway
08-04-23, 13:53
To see the legendary JZLizard moderating this thread.

Some of these posts, should they be in current sugar thread?

PartyTime5150
08-08-23, 04:17
I've read everything I could on sugaring and thanks to the sage advice from this thread, I have four dates this week with POTS. I met them all on SA.

If any of you have advice for me, I'm all ears.

Here's what I'm locking into:

1. A cute middle class redhead about two hours away. 8 / 8 / 10 / TBD. Has a stable job. She can't host, but has sent been sending me nudes and masturbation videos on a daily basis. Down for BB and anything else I want. She has no expectations in terms of sugar and is happy for me to just cover the cost of the hotel and a meal. She wants to meet up twice a week. I'm scheduling two days in a hotel with her. She's a squirter and a total freak. It's going to be great.

2. Black college student. 7 / 9 / 7 / TBD. She just got done with finals and is chomping at the bit to blow off some steam. Has a stable job, zero expectations for sugar. Safety girl, said she wasn't cool letting go BB. She's super stoked to hit the FC.

3. Petite spinner. Possible UTR. 10/10 / 5 / TBD. This is the one I know the least about. She's only in town for a few days (possible red flag) and said that she's down to just meet up, grab a meal and head straight to the FC. Conversation has been minimal. I'm not too sure how to handle this one. I have a feeling she's going to eat dinner and then tell me she wants some insane amount of money to do the deed.

4. Petite blonde girl next door turned punk / alt type. 10/10 / 10 / TBD. This one is dangerous for me. She's so off the charts hot and her personality just doesn't match it. She's way too chill and I really enjoy talking to her. The conversations have been great, but haven't turned sexual yet, which has been surprisingly fine with me. If I didn't have anything else on the line, I might feel otherwise. I want to take her to the FC so bad. If any of you have advice on how to get things to head in that direction organically, that would be greatly appreciated. Maybe I just need to be patient.

SBmidlo
08-08-23, 13:21
I've read everything I could on sugaring and thanks to the sage advice from this thread, I have four dates this week with POTS. I met them all on SA.

If any of you have advice for me, I'm all ears.

Here's what I'm locking into:

1. A cute middle class redhead about two hours away. 8 / 8 / 10 / TBD. Has a stable job. She can't host, but has sent been sending me nudes and masturbation videos on a daily basis. Down for BB and anything else I want. She has no expectations in terms of sugar and is happy for me to just cover the cost of the hotel and a meal. She wants to meet up twice a week. I'm scheduling two days in a hotel with her. She's a squirter and a total freak. It's going to be great.

2. Black college student. 7 / 9 / 7 / TBD. She just got done with finals and is chomping at the bit to blow off some steam. Has a stable job, zero expectations for sugar. Safety girl, said she wasn't cool letting go BB. She's super stoked to hit the FC.

3. Petite spinner. Possible UTR. 10/10 / 5 / TBD. This is the one I know the least about. She's only in town for a few days (possible red flag) and said that she's down to just meet up, grab a meal and head straight to the FC. Conversation has been minimal. I'm not too sure how to handle this one. I have a feeling she's going to eat dinner and then tell me she wants some insane amount of money to do the deed.

4. Petite blonde girl next door turned punk / alt type. 10/10 / 10 / TBD. This one is dangerous for me. She's so off the charts hot and her personality just doesn't match it. She's way too chill and I really enjoy talking to her. The conversations have been great, but haven't turned sexual yet, which has been surprisingly fine with me. If I didn't have anything else on the line, I might feel otherwise. I want to take her to the FC so bad. If any of you have advice on how to get things to head in that direction organically, that would be greatly appreciated. Maybe I just need to be patient.What does your numbering system represent? 10/10/5?

PartyTime5150
08-08-23, 14:16
What does your numbering system represent? 10/10/5?Going off the numbering system from this.

(per post #4363 and post #7265).

Four numbers: face / body / personality / skills.

Three numbers: face / body / skills (having the personality and skills in one number).

Jcn1965
08-08-23, 20:55
I've read everything I could on sugaring and thanks to the sage advice from this thread, I have four dates this week with POTS. I met them all on SA.

If any of you have advice for me, I'm all ears.

Here's what I'm locking into:

1. A cute middle class redhead about two hours away. 8 / 8 / 10 / TBD. Has a stable job. She can't host, but has sent been sending me nudes and masturbation videos on a daily basis. Down for BB and anything else I want. She has no expectations in terms of sugar and is happy for me to just cover the cost of the hotel and a meal. She wants to meet up twice a week. I'm scheduling two days in a hotel with her. She's a squirter and a total freak. It's going to be great.

2. Black college student. 7 / 9 / 7 / TBD. She just got done with finals and is chomping at the bit to blow off some steam. Has a stable job, zero expectations for sugar. Safety girl, said she wasn't cool letting go BB. She's super stoked to hit the FC.

3. Petite spinner. Possible UTR. 10/10 / 5 / TBD. This is the one I know the least about. She's only in town for a few days (possible red flag) and said that she's down to just meet up, grab a meal and head straight to the FC. Conversation has been minimal. I'm not too sure how to handle this one. I have a feeling she's going to eat dinner and then tell me she wants some insane amount of money to do the deed.

4. Petite blonde girl next door turned punk / alt type. 10/10 / 10 / TBD. This one is dangerous for me. She's so off the charts hot and her personality just doesn't match it. She's way too chill and I really enjoy talking to her. The conversations have been great, but haven't turned sexual yet, which has been surprisingly fine with me. If I didn't have anything else on the line, I might feel otherwise. I want to take her to the FC so bad. If any of you have advice on how to get things to head in that direction organically, that would be greatly appreciated. Maybe I just need to be patient.Be nice to see follow up but I'm guessing probably 2 won't show and one of them will just want money with no sugar and 4th is maybe a go. 1 out of 4 honestly is not horrible. But be careful there are some reckless girls out there who gives zero fucks about doing anything to get Your money. Keep head on straight and Good luck.

PartyTime5150
08-13-23, 04:20
I've read everything I could on sugaring and thanks to the sage advice from this thread, I have four dates this week with POTS. I met them all on SA.

If any of you have advice for me, I'm all ears.

Here's what I'm locking into:

1. A cute middle class redhead about two hours away. 8 / 8 / 10 / TBD. Has a stable job. She can't host, but has sent been sending me nudes and masturbation videos on a daily basis. Down for BB and anything else I want. She has no expectations in terms of sugar and is happy for me to just cover the cost of the hotel and a meal. She wants to meet up twice a week. I'm scheduling two days in a hotel with her. She's a squirter and a total freak. It's going to be great.

2. Black college student. 7 / 9 / 7 / TBD. She just got done with finals and is chomping at the bit to blow off some steam. Has a stable job, zero expectations for sugar. Safety girl, said she wasn't cool letting me go BB. She's super stoked to hit the FC.

3. Petite spinner. Possible UTR. 10/10 / 5 / TBD. This is the one I know the least about. She's only in town for a few days (possible red flag) and said that she's down to just meet up, grab a meal and head straight to the FC. Conversation has been minimal. I'm not too sure how to handle this one. I have a feeling she's going to eat dinner and then tell me she wants some insane amount of money to do the deed.

4. Petite blonde girl next door turned punk / alt type. 10 /10 / 10 / TBD. This one is dangerous for me. She's so off the charts hot and her personality just doesn't match it. She's way too chill and I really enjoy talking to her. The conversations have been great, but haven't turned sexual yet, which has been surprisingly fine with me. If I didn't have anything else on the line, I might feel otherwise. I want to take her to the FC so bad. If any of you have advice on how to get things to head in that direction organically, that would be greatly appreciated. Maybe I just need to be patient.Quick update.

I just hit the FC with #2, which means I've bagged my first SB. Things went great and I'm looking forward to seeing her again. Definitely going to keep her in the rotation.

I have a date with #1 in four days. Looking forward to it.

#3 no-showed on me. No loss there.

Still texting daily with #4. She's interested in meeting up, but it's a 50/50 shot on whether or not I'm going to be able to get her into the FC. If anybody has any solid advice on that, I'm all ears.

IrideAss65
08-13-23, 15:44
Quick update.

I just hit the FC with #2, which means I've bagged my first SB. Things went great and I'm looking forward to seeing her again. Definitely going to keep her in the rotation.

I have a date with #1 in four days. Looking forward to it.

#3 no-showed on me. No loss there.

Still texting daily with #4. She's interested in meeting up, but it's a 50/50 shot on whether or not I'm going to be able to get her into the FC. If anybody has any solid advice on that, I'm all ears.I'm sure I should know. But I don't, what is the FC.

BamBam
08-15-23, 10:55
I'm sure I should know. But I don't, what is the FC.Or any place you do the deed. It's generally not used outside the sugar bowl. Same with 'Warden' for an SO.

BAM.

Murrican
08-21-23, 09:52
I have no special insight here but the idea LE is conducting stings on SA is ludicrous. They want to catch people who are looking for that kind of thing, not people who got lied to and fell for it. They're not going to waste their time on an adult dating site.

Still, buyer beware. One time I was making plans with an 18 year old and she said something that made me look twice. I asked her directly exactly how old she was. She said she'd be 18 in a few months. I immediately screen shotted the interaction and reported it to SA.

If you do come across it I think that's the prudent thing to do. Because if she gets caught elsewhere and they start looking at history, I wanted to be fully on the written record as the guy who sounded the alarm the moment I saw it.


I've read through a decent amount of the indexed articles (fantastic feature, BTW) that I thought might provide some insight on this very general question I have, and I've not found any. Forgive me if I've overlooked something. Presuming there is discourse on this somewhere, I would appreciate being pointed in the correct direction.

My question is, is LE a concern in sugar dating, specifically on SA? I've been approached by some girls with such direct information, with zero degree of finesse or use of the generally accepted terminology, that I've thought to myself, do I event want to participate in this conversation? Particularly when it comes to discussing $. Also, I've been in touch with a couple of 18 yo who were, like I just mentioned, so direct and explicit, I had to ask for photos of ID before continuing the chat. I'm still not entirely sure I'm comfortable threading that needle. Anyways, my question is, are there any reasons for being concerned that you are messaging, or texting with LE? Of note. I have chosen to conduct my allowance negotiations via a burner number, in advance of any meet.

Thank you in advance.

Murrican
01-22-24, 23:49
I've read through a decent amount of the indexed articles (fantastic feature, BTW) that I thought might provide some insight on this very general question I have, and I've not found any. Forgive me if I've overlooked something. Presuming there is discourse on this somewhere, I would appreciate being pointed in the correct direction.

My question is, is LE a concern in sugar dating, specifically on SA? I've been approached by some girls with such direct information, with zero degree of finesse or use of the generally accepted terminology, that I've thought to myself, do I event want to participate in this conversation? Particularly when it comes to discussing $. Also, I've been in touch with a couple of 18 yo who were, like I just mentioned, so direct and explicit, I had to ask for photos of ID before continuing the chat. I'm still not entirely sure I'm comfortable threading that needle. Anyways, my question is, are there any reasons for being concerned that you are messaging, or texting with LE? Of note. I have chosen to conduct my allowance negotiations via a burner number, in advance of any meet.

Thank you in advance.I've said this before, but I'm happy to say it again.

LE has limited resources. Trust me the last place they're spending their time is Seeking! They go fishing where the fish are.

That doesn't mean you don't have a major legal liability. I've shared this before. Some girls on seeking are crazy. Do this for long enough and you'll meet one, two, three, many the risk is some girl accuses you of something for whatever reason. She's crazy. She has daddy issues. She can get more money out of you. She's having a bad day. She's having regrets. That's your biggest liability.

I've preached and will preach again. Your biggest responsibility is to leave the situation peacefully. Every Time. Even if it costs you money and face. Never leave a crazy ***** to decide whether you're playing defense. .