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Steak 404
04-24-15, 18:29
I thought I'd start this forum. Seems to be similar sections in other cities for this. I'll define a Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy relationship broadly. Most of these are not the fairy tale "kept woman" exclusive kind of deal that cost thousands per month. More often the gal gets some "sugar" (gifts, mentorship, cash, a bill paid) and the guy gets some "sugar" from her on a non-exclusive basis.

This forum will be more about sharing best practices and general experiences vs. Reviews. Most of these women are UTR so no posting of any personal info. If you are inclined to share, share the details via PM. That's really it as far as rules go. Oh yeah and don't beg guys to hook you up.

Let's see how this goes. Certainly open to thoughts.

HollywoodGuy
04-24-15, 18:31
It works for me.

http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivesteps

Steak 404
04-24-15, 18:49
It works for me.

http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivestepsSome good stuff. Thanks for sharing. I use a variation on that. The most important thing about your system is you have a process and you know where you are going. Guys with sales backgrounds will get this innately. Have a process, control and direct the conversation. Recognize it is a numbers game and you will have to go through a lot of "prospects" to find ones that are worthwhile. As a side note, I'd add that creating the ad or profile and having them respond to you vs. The other way around helps you to drive your process.

HollywoodGuy
04-24-15, 19:07
Some good stuff. Thanks for sharing. I use a variation on that. The most important thing about your system is you have a process and you know where you are going. Guys with sales backgrounds will get this innately. Have a process, control and direct the conversation. Recognize it is a numbers game and you will have to go through a lot of "prospects" to find ones that are worthwhile. As a side note, I'd add that creating the ad or profile and having them respond to you vs. The other way around helps you to drive your process.On the SD sites I am the aggressor but on CL I let them come to me. In my area on the SD sites the female aggressors are mostly GPS, UTR or below my standards of physical beauty. I aim for the NP first timers (and many times settle for less). But I never settle on my need for exclusivity if a girl wants to become a regular. Also my target audience is 18-25, non-white (usually AA or mixed with a smattering of asian and latina), and spinners (the tighter the better). I aim for the 7/9's (face/body) to conserve on the funds.

Steak 404
04-24-15, 19:46
As an aside, Richmond of all places has a great forum on Sugar Babies. 9000+ posts and growing. Lots of national (non-Richmond) guys contributing including Hollywood Guy.

Obviously I wouldn't suggest trying to read all 9000 posts but for someone that's new to this and wants to learn I'd say that's a good "RTFF" place to start.

Here's the link http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not.

I've been at this a while and I'd say there's a lot of "how to" wisdom there (mixed, like everywhere on USASG, with a lot of worthless posts) that is a pretty good road map.

PWhipped
04-25-15, 09:41
It works for me.

http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivestepsThis is why some of us have good luck and success finding UTR and civvies.

Wet Dreams, PW.

Bobbyj29
04-25-15, 21:25
Been wanting to step into this type of scene for quite a while because it seems like the ideal setup. My holdup has been the time commitment with trying to juggle a whole other relationship (what with the job and SO taking up so much time). For this reason, I've been hitting the strip clubs for a quick fix when I can get away, but that's a little hit or miss as well, as my favs are flaky about working a set schedule so I'm never guaranteed not to have a wasted visit. Any of you guys with SO or fam or other significant time sink have any suggestions on how you fit this kind of arrangement into your rotation? Thanks for the help.

Bowtie
04-25-15, 23:44
Bob, good luck on the juggle, its tough, and from my experience, not easy. The sugar "bowl" is by no means a given, these young ladies are very flakie, and not at all consistant or reliable. This may be driven by location, and potential sugar payout, I don't know. I try to keep 2 or 3 in the mix so my needs are met, even then it can go dry in an instant or be overly time (or $) consuming. As for excuses, I've always worked heavy hours, so that allows me time away, but it does make getting that work done difficult. Give it a try, then if it doesn't work, look for a solid utr. Best of luck, Bowtie.


Been wanting to step into this type of scene for quite a while because it seems like the ideal setup. My holdup has been the time commitment with trying to juggle a whole other relationship (what with the job and SO taking up so much time). For this reason, I've been hitting the strip clubs for a quick fix when I can get away, but that's a little hit or miss as well, as my favs are flaky about working a set schedule so I'm never guaranteed not to have a wasted visit. Any of you guys with SO or fam or other significant time sink have any suggestions on how you fit this kind of arrangement into your rotation? Thanks for the help.

Steak 404
04-26-15, 04:17
Bob, good luck on the juggle, its tough, and from my experience, not easy. The sugar "bowl" is by no means a given, these young ladies are very flakie, and not at all consistant or reliable. This may be driven by location, and potential sugar payout, I don't know. I try to keep 2 or 3 in the mix so my needs are met, even then it can go dry in an instant or be overly time (or $) consuming. As for excuses, I've always worked heavy hours, so that allows me time away, but it does make getting that work done difficult. Give it a try, then if it doesn't work, look for a solid utr. Best of luck, Bowtie.I'd echo this.

When it is good it is really good. Young early 20 something tight shit that, while they still are about a gift, aren't booking 6 other guys a day and hosting out of a notel.

That said, Bowtie's word "flakey" is a good one. There is nothing reliable about 99% of them.

You have to embrace the thrill of the hunt and value the intimacy that comes with this type of thing that isn't available with most traditional pros.

If you can't embrace the thrill of the hunt and find the private time to be markedly better, I suggest just calling the best agency with reliable gals you can afford. The net money spent will be similar maybe a little higher for the agency and you will save a lot of time.

Another consideration is you have to have a little "game" to pull off sugar. You don't have to be great looking or loaded but you do have to talk (& listen) to women. If the last time you civie dated was when you courted your wife 20 years ago you need to dust off your game.

Bowtie
04-26-15, 08:10
Listening is the key, get them to open up and listen to them. None have a perfect life, otherwise they wouldn't be looking. I'm sure there is that perfect baby, and I know I keep on looking for her! Game, yey, been 30 years since I needed that, now I "practice" all the time, SO with me or not. As for cost, if I would take the time to put into a spreadsheet and actually figure the cost per F, backpage or other escort site would be WAY LESS cash, aggrivation and time. Not even close, but I need the emotional connection, its more real than the GFE a lot of guys are hunting. The feeling of a baby opening up her life crying on my shoulder is deep. Makes for incredible experience in the FC, plus I get self satisfaction in helping. Just my thing, but damn it can be trying and requires huge amounts of my energy. Part of my addiction. I'm sure you guys have already seen the richmond site. I've been following for several years now. A MUST READ if you're just getting started in the sugar bowl. Good luck and be safe.


I'd echo this.

When it is good it is really good. Young early 20 something tight shit that, while they still are about a gift, aren't booking 6 other guys a day and hosting out of a notel.

That said, Bowtie's word "flakey" is a good one. There is nothing reliable about 99% of them.

You have to embrace the thrill of the hunt and value the intimacy that comes with this type of thing that isn't available with most traditional pros.

If you can't embrace the thrill of the hunt and find the private time to be markedly better, I suggest just calling the best agency with reliable gals you can afford. The net money spent will be similar maybe a little higher for the agency and you will save a lot of time.

Another consideration is you have to have a little "game" to pull off sugar. You don't have to be great looking or loaded but you do have to talk (& listen) to women. If the last time you civie dated was when you courted your wife 20 years ago you need to dust off your game.

Steak 404
04-26-15, 11:18
As for cost, if I would take the time to put into a spreadsheet and actually figure the cost per F, backpage or other escort site would be WAY LESS cash, aggrivation and time. Not even close, but I need the emotional connection, its more real than the GFE a lot of guys are hunting..We all spend differently.

Regarding costs, all in, if you went the Backpage route that is without question the least expensive route.

If you went with a better agency ($300/ hr and up) you are spending more on going the agency route (depends of frequency) but probably not much. They should be comparable. You can get a good piece of Sugar for much less than $300/ hour and you don't pay for "hanging out" time or dinners (than the check).

The real "cost" is your time.

Really kind of flips this whole thing on its head in a way. With an escort ostensibly you are paying for her time and availability (I know, and to leave). With a Sugar Baby you spend (invest) your time vetting them and dealing with their unproductive behaviors (like no shows and cancellations) as well as the occasional gift to an incompatible baby. As an offset the actual gift you give her is typically less than a comparable "pro".

Bobbyj29
04-26-15, 12:06
Good look out Steak and Bowtie. I've been out of the civie dating game for a minute but have managed to parlay a few of my stripper friends from Follies into semi-regular hook-ups without (additional outside the club) compensation so hopefully some of that'll transfer over. Like some of you guys I'm looking more for that balanced connection between physical and mental. Got plenty of disposable income so I left the backpage train a long time ago as I just got tired of the attitudes, hygiene and hit-or-miss nature. Agencies have been good as long as you're ok with confining the interactions to the inside of the incall and that's it. The stripper scene has been. Well it's been fun but good lord are some of these girls scary damaged. I've dipped my dick in crazy too many times and am trying to ease out of there. Problem is crazy seems to know just how to push your buttons to keep you coming back for another taste!

So yeah, I've tried Arrangement Finders (that advertise here) and every decent looking 21-25 yr old I came across definitely had GPS asking for obnoxious gifts. Maybe it was the time of year I was looking or something but I had a string of misses on there. I'm hoping that summer will bring a few of the hungry college girls back to the A that'll be more reasonable. What sites have you guys had the best luck with?

HollywoodGuy
04-26-15, 12:25
Good look out Steak and Bowtie. I've been out of the civie dating game for a minute but have managed to parlay a few of my stripper friends from Follies into semi-regular hook-ups without (additional outside the club) compensation so hopefully some of that'll transfer over. Like some of you guys I'm looking more for that balanced connection between physical and mental. Got plenty of disposable income so I left the backpage train a long time ago as I just got tired of the attitudes, hygiene and hit-or-miss nature. Agencies have been good as long as you're ok with confining the interactions to the inside of the incall and that's it. The stripper scene has been. Well it's been fun but good lord are some of these girls scary damaged. I've dipped my dick in crazy too many times and am trying to ease out of there. Problem is crazy seems to know just how to push your buttons to keep you coming back for another taste!

So yeah, I've tried Arrangement Finders (that advertise here) and every decent looking 21-25 yr old I came across definitely had GPS asking for obnoxious gifts. Maybe it was the time of year I was looking or something but I had a string of misses on there. I'm hoping that summer will bring a few of the hungry college girls back to the A that'll be more reasonable. What sites have you guys had the best luck with?As a dating industry professional of sorts. I have worked and still do work for many as a database consultant. Stick to SA and SD4M. I can not vouch for any others. Except the very mainstream sites like eHarmony, etc. But for sugar, only those two.

Steak 404
04-26-15, 13:15
Bobby-.

Regarding GPS. The one's that are crazy GPS discard as quickly as possible. The one's that are more reasonable offer to meet for an unpaid M&G (coffee, a drink, lunch). This is where the your time investment starts to add up but you can do some things to minimize how much time you burn.

When they meet you, like you, feel comfortable with you all of a sudden those GPS numbers they toss around start to melt away. On your end if you don't like them or the two of you don't "click," you move on.

In a lot of ways this is similar to the strippers you do off the clock quasifreebies with (I play in that space as well). The ones it works with work because they like you not because you throw them exorbitant sums.

Ultimately the ones that will be the best fit with you aren't the ones that you "outbid" the competition for but the ones that like you.

Steak 404
04-26-15, 13:34
A couple of things to keep in mind. From their perspective:

1) You don't get what you don't ask for -- hence the crazy high starting prices -- who knows they might snag a rich guy that really doesn't care about "market value" -- on the other hand they mind not get much action.

2) Many gals are new - - they don't know what their "market value" really is. They are conditioned by media stories that glamorize "Sugar Daddy" relationships as well as the "averages" and examples sites like SA use in their blog, etc.

Ask them about their prior experiences. Many of them will confide they really don't have any. Tell them "in the past when I've had an arrangement like this, typically I've done xyz".

3) Unlike the escort world where negotiating listed rates is frowned upon by many women, it is a very normal and accepted part of the Sugar world. Be tactful of course but don't discard someone just because they have crazy "list prices"

Listen to what they say. What are they really looking for?

Also keep in mind, being a gentleman goes a long way. A nearly universal comment I've heard from younger women is guys their age don't know how to treat a lady.

Ultimately you want to make the gifts only a portion of what you bring to the table. The only way they see that is by meeting and interacting with you.

Some of my best relationships started after she'd met a couple of other guys (sometimes for a M&G, sometimes for more) and realized that I was the least creepy of the guys she'd met.

HollywoodGuy
04-26-15, 13:52
A couple of things to keep in mind. From their perspective:

1) You don't get what you don't ask for -- hence the crazy high starting prices -- who knows they might snag a rich guy that really doesn't care about "market value" -- on the other hand they mind not get much action.

2) Many gals are new - - they don't know what their "market value" really is. They are conditioned by media stories that glamorize "Sugar Daddy" relationships as well as the "averages" and examples sites like SA use in their blog, etc.

Ask them about their prior experiences. Many of them will confide they really don't have any. Tell them "in the past when I've had an arrangement like this, typically I've done xyz".

3) Unlike the escort world where negotiating listed rates is frowned upon by many women, it is a very normal and accepted part of the Sugar world. Be tactful of course but don't discard someone just because they have crazy "list prices"

Listen to what they say. What are they really looking for?

Also keep in mind, being a gentleman goes a long way. A nearly universal comment I've heard from younger women is guys their age don't know how to treat a lady.

Ultimately you want to make the gifts only a portion of what you bring to the table. The only way they see that is by meeting and interacting with you.

Some of my best relationships started after she'd met a couple of other guys (sometimes for a M&G, sometimes for more) and realized that I was the least creepy of the guys she'd met.I suppose it all goes to supply and demand. This is excellent advice especially in areas of low availability or for anyone looking to upgrade. My area is the opposite. I never invest the extra time to "maybe" breakdown or negotiate with a GPS girl. Especially in person.

Like you or someone said in earlier posts, there is an investment of time that can outstrip the dollars spent. Unfortunately I don't have the time but I do have the abundance of new girls coming on to the market on a regular basis. If I could ever make the time I would definitely consider it to land a hottie that is in need of a more balanced relationship.

Bowtie
04-26-15, 14:05
LOL, being the least creepy has worked for me on several occasions! I can't believe how many assholes are out there, treat the young ladies nicely and be a gentleman, and it pays off. Some of the stories these girls have seen, damn. I started using sugar daddy today, it has dried up, but I still look because its free. I also use what's your price, had good luck there but a lot of flakes, now switching to the masters suggestion of seeking arrangements (master being HWG). While the pickings are clearly different here in central Ohio, his wisdom transfers well. Read up on his 5 steps if you haven't already. It works.


A couple of things to keep in mind. From their perspective:

1) You don't get what you don't ask for -- hence the crazy high starting prices -- who knows they might snag a rich guy that really doesn't care about "market value" -- on the other hand they mind not get much action.

2) Many gals are new - - they don't know what their "market value" really is. They are conditioned by media stories that glamorize "Sugar Daddy" relationships as well as the "averages" and examples sites like SA use in their blog, etc.

Ask them about their prior experiences. Many of them will confide they really don't have any. Tell them "in the past when I've had an arrangement like this, typically I've done xyz".

3) Unlike the escort world where negotiating listed rates is frowned upon by many women, it is a very normal and accepted part of the Sugar world. Be tactful of course but don't discard someone just because they have crazy "list prices"

Listen to what they say. What are they really looking for?

Also keep in mind, being a gentleman goes a long way. A nearly universal comment I've heard from younger women is guys their age don't know how to treat a lady.

Ultimately you want to make the gifts only a portion of what you bring to the table. The only way they see that is by meeting and interacting with you.

Some of my best relationships started after she'd met a couple of other guys (sometimes for a M&G, sometimes for more) and realized that I was the least creepy of the guys she'd met.

Harley32
04-27-15, 13:51
I started off with What's your Price several years ago and found it was a waste of time. Why pay upfront and be out time only to find out it's not going to work out? I soon found Sugar Daddy for Me and it was a LOT more honest in my opinion. But there are a LOT of ladies on there that have been on there for years. They just set up a new profile and set out their net again. But it is semi-reasonably priced compared to Seeking Arrangement. SA is a good site but $70 for 30 days is just highway robbery. SD Today was recommended to me by one of of my on again off again sugar babies. I had some initial luck on there and given that's it's free, it's hard to beat. But they only keep your email for 30 days or so so it's hard to keep up with who've you've talked with before and lately it's seemed to have really slowed down.

I don't live in Atlanta but travel there frequently enough that it's a good place for me to play. But, I'm not willing to make a trip just for a meet and greet. So I approach things a little differently than some of the other guys have discussed on here. I do try to develop a rapport and has already been said, be a gentleman, you'll stand out in a good way. I try to find out first what kind of arrangement they're envisioning and what their financial expectations. If either don't meet mine, I thank them for their time and move on. There are a lot of ladies who are seeking to meet during the day for instance and that simply won't work for me or they have GPS. If the financial part seems to be out of whack I'll simply say that I'm unable to meet their expectation but I'd be able to do X if they're interested. It is a bit of a numbers game. You may get a great response from a lady that might not have seemed like you'd be a good fit and hear nothing from someone that seems a great fit. Just go with it and take advantage of the opportunities that come your way. I do seem to have better luck with younger AA ladies, 18-22. But I'm also seeing a 38 yr old white lady from a smaller town that's smokin hot. You just never know. If you don't mind doing some driving there are some gems out there that don't get as much traffic due to their distance from town.

One thing that I've found is that it takes a lot of work to make this work, at least it does in my case. I have high expectations with regard to time commitment from them (min 4 hrs which would include a meal and some overnights) and a pretty reasonable donation (100-125 per visit). Now I'll spend nearly that amount again getting a hotel room (very few are able to host) and dinner. But the payoff is worth it for me. I do enjoy the chase and it's a very different experience than seeing an escort for an hr.

For someone just getting into this I'd suggest either SDFM or SA and just join for a month to start. Because these ladies aren't pros it may take a few weeks before you're able to work everything out and meet. And it's often feast or famine. You could have a dry week where nothing happens and then one where 5 ladies suddenly want to meet. Better to have several you're working on at once but not too many.

HollywoodGuy
04-27-15, 14:42
If you don't mind doing some driving there are some gems out there that don't get as much traffic due to their distance from town.There are so many that fall into this category if you can swing it.
Unfortunately I have to limit my searches to 25 miles.

Steak 404
04-27-15, 15:20
There are so many that fall into this category if you can swing it.
Unfortunately I have to limit my searches to 25 miles.I don't travel to them period. If they can't travel to me (& have reliable transportation on a going basis) I'm not interested.

This is also why I will do M&Gs. I have a couple regular spots that are just minutes from my place. I don't head over until I voice confirm the M&G date less than an hour beforehand. It isn't a perfect system but it significantly minimizes wasted time.

I do M&Gs with no guarantees of anything further with all dates. Sure I build rapport via emails / text / phone as well but M&Gs are important part of my process. Actual chemistry is important to me. Sure there are many I'll bang once for the hell of it but I'm really looking for someone that is on the same page as me.

Again, nobody's system or process is perfect. Not mine. Not Hollywood Guy's or any of the others that have shared. Processes can be different. The important thing is find a process that works for you vs. Just talking to girls and hoping it works.

HollywoodGuy
04-27-15, 16:41
I don't travel to them period. If they can't travel to me (& have reliable transportation on a going basis) I'm not interested.

This is also why I will do M&Gs. I have a couple regular spots that are just minutes from my place. I don't head over until I voice confirm the M&G date less than an hour beforehand. It isn't a perfect system but it significantly minimizes wasted time.

I do M&Gs with no guarantees of anything further with all dates. Sure I build rapport via emails / text / phone as well but M&Gs are important part of my process. Actual chemistry is important to me. Sure there are many I'll bang once for the hell of it but I'm really looking for someone that is on the same page as me.

Again, nobody's system or process is perfect. Not mine. Not Hollywood Guy's or any of the others that have shared. Processes can be different. The important thing is find a process that works for you vs. Just talking to girls and hoping it works.A lot of my babies are lower income and very young. So no car. But that's ok. No unexpected visitors either. If it becomes a regular thing then I will move them to public transportation to come to me. My ATF is 20 or so miles away. I have made 2 RT's here and there. But mostly she comes to me on the bus/train or occasionally I go to her place when she is alone.

Saintd
05-17-15, 19:06
Been wanting to step into this type of scene for quite a while because it seems like the ideal setup. My holdup has been the time commitment with trying to juggle a whole other relationship (what with the job and SO taking up so much time). For this reason, I've been hitting the strip clubs for a quick fix when I can get away, but that's a little hit or miss as well, as my favs are flaky about working a set schedule so I'm never guaranteed not to have a wasted visit. Any of you guys with SO or fam or other significant time sink have any suggestions on how you fit this kind of arrangement into your rotation? Thanks for the help.Your situation is not unique so don't lose hope. If you can arrange to "need" short one or two day trips for work, real or not, it can be a good way to fit the SB into your schedule. Many SBs are college co-eds and are available for long lunches, early dinners, etc. The younger they are you do run the risk of their time management skills leaving a lot to be desired. There are more stable single mothers as well, who are on time constraints like you are and so are more likely to value your time and can be a good choice as well. There are certainly more mercenary SBs available than blur the lines between a SB and an UTR but if that works for you it is there. I guess what you have to know is what you want, do you want to go out on dates, etc or are you just looking for stable fun on the side.

Escorts are easier to schedule for sure, and probably cheaper in the long run, but if you are looking for an emotional connection the SB route is really the only way. I have actually had some SBs totally in Atlanta totally downplay the money aspect, either an allowance or per date, and treat things like a normal dating relationship but who are not shy about asking for help when cash issues arise for them. So there are really all types.

If you are willing to risk giving an allowance and trusting the women to hold up their end of the bargain then Atlanta does have some drop dead gorgeous SBs who have a case of GPS. As long as you know what you are getting into and can comfotablly float their requests then that is an avenue as well.

Steak 404
05-18-15, 17:04
Your situation is not unique so don't lose hope. If you can arrange to "need" short one or two day trips for work, real or not, it can be a good way to fit the SB into your schedule. Many SBs are college co-eds and are available for long lunches, early dinners, etc. The younger they are you do run the risk of their time management skills leaving a lot to be desired. There are more stable single mothers as well, who are on time constraints like you are and so are more likely to value your time and can be a good choice as well. There are certainly more mercenary SBs available than blur the lines between a SB and an UTR but if that works for you it is there. I guess what you have to know is what you want, do you want to go out on dates, etc or are you just looking for stable fun on the side.

Escorts are easier to schedule for sure, and probably cheaper in the long run, but if you are looking for an emotional connection the SB route is really the only way. I have actually had some SBs totally in Atlanta totally downplay the money aspect, either an allowance or per date, and treat things like a normal dating relationship but who are not shy about asking for help when cash issues arise for them. So there are really all types.

If you are willing to risk giving an allowance and trusting the women to hold up their end of the bargain then Atlanta does have some drop dead gorgeous SBs who have a case of GPS. As long as you know what you are getting into and can comfotablly float their requests then that is an avenue as well.Yeah all depends what you are looking for but there's something for everyone out there. Most of these gals talk about dating but realize this is about private time. They won't complain if you spend almost all your time in a bedroom: yours, hers, or a hotel. I always do an initial public meeting (e. G. Starbucks) for our mutual comfort level and safety. Some I use the initial meeting for evaluation as well. Some guys don't. But in either case after the first meeting she'll usually be down for just hooking up. No need for any pretense about a "date" first.

I'll also second that many of them (not all) will have extended availability during the day because they are students.

MyName1
05-30-15, 14:08
I've been scoring pretty good in this area. It's a little more expensive, but a whole lot more entertaining.

One question I've got. What's the best way to score with the older ladys. Most of the info I've seen on here is geared towards the younger (under 25) student crowd. Anyone have any tips for scoring with the Divorcee's or older single moms. I think they're better in bed and not quite as flaky.

Thanks.

Z.

LoganSt
06-01-15, 00:19
Well, I did the site "Sugardaddieforme.com" It is a pay site, but I did meet a LOT of women on there, and I am talking about HOLY SH*T types. Yeah, it was much more expensive then an escort, but it was a great time. The biggest problem I had was that 2 of them wanted to get more then just "friends. " And they both got a lot more involved then I did, they got dropped real fast. Then I had one that was an INCREDIBLE scammer / grifter. Man, she had everything down right to get me to give her as much money as I could. Granted she was SMOKIN hot, and 20 years old. Oh man.

So, if you are going to do the SD thing, make sure you keep your wits about you. There are some normal girls on there, and then some scam artists that will work you like never before, I never thought it would happen to me, but it did.

But, not to make you think everyone is bad on there, I did meet with one lady, and she and I became best friends and have been for a few years now. We didn't have sex, but we quickly found we were better friends then anything else.

Good luck!

LoganSt
06-01-15, 00:22
Okay, I did this one as well.

The thing I hated about it was the cost to contact women.

I will say I met some interesting women on here, some that were pretty awesome, some scammers, some escorts. I still liked the SD site better.

Steak 404
06-01-15, 10:19
I've been scoring pretty good in this area. It's a little more expensive, but a whole lot more entertaining.

One question I've got. What's the best way to score with the older ladys. Most of the info I've seen on here is geared towards the younger (under 25) student crowd. Anyone have any tips for scoring with the Divorcee's or older single moms. I think they're better in bed and not quite as flaky.

Thanks.

Z.Usually they are much easier and don't want money. They just want you to fuck the shit out of them. They want NSA as much as you do.

If you are placing ads, gear them more to this set. Maybe even say something to the effect of "looking for a real real woman that knows what she's doing, not a school girl I'd have to teach. ".

From there it is no different than younger gals. Interact with them. Make them feel comfortable. Compliment them. Etc.

But remember they are less interested in gifts and more interested in someone to give them what they haven't been getting sexually.

GreekLover6
06-27-15, 10:35
Usually they are much easier and don't want money. They just want you to fuck the shit out of them. They want NSA as much as you do.

If you are placing ads, gear them more to this set. Maybe even say something to the effect of "looking for a real real woman that knows what she's doing, not a school girl I'd have to teach. ".

From there it is no different than younger gals. Interact with them. Make them feel comfortable. Compliment them. Etc.

But remember they are less interested in gifts and more interested in someone to give them what they haven't been getting sexually.I use making videos nd sessions with providers to score women on AFF, one thing I've learned about women. They want what some one has. I get providers on film with screen shoys have orgasm (fake or real doesn't matter). Squirting, cumshots, creampies, etc.

Slo Mo
07-14-15, 07:27
OK I've tried all the other sites like AFF, POF, Tagged etc and I've haven't had ANY luck whatsoever. I was browsing through the Sugar daddy site and I see it's 60% hot chicks on there, wow! I plan on taking some time and creating a profile and I'm going to get creative. One small problem, I'm not rich! LOL does anyone have any suggestions or some solid investment ideas so I can become rich overnight? LOL feel free to PM me if you must. I've been in Atlanta 6 months and I'm still trying to find my "niche". Thanks.

Viktor213
07-16-15, 21:41
OK I've tried all the other sites like AFF, POF, Tagged etc and I've haven't had ANY luck whatsoever. I was browsing through the Sugar daddy site and I see it's 60% hot chicks on there, wow! I plan on taking some time and creating a profile and I'm going to get creative. One small problem, I'm not rich! LOL does anyone have any suggestions or some solid investment ideas so I can become rich overnight? LOL feel free to PM me if you must. I've been in Atlanta 6 months and I'm still trying to find my "niche". Thanks.The SD sites are a waste of time in my opinion. The idea is sound but the nonpro women really believe they are worth $500 to $2 k per month. A lot of nonpros are attractive college age women that believe they can find an SD to take care of them while they go to school. Some can. That was the biggest issue I had found. Found 1 moderately attractive women and contacted her about an initial meet and greet. She wanted $75 for that.

Some of the onlinebootycall and AFF sites have part time and full time pros that will offer decent value. But a lot of the same people are already on CL and BP.

Good luck.

BigMoney21
07-23-15, 17:40
I really don't know what race you guys are and nor what race you guys prefer. But from what I've been seeing its not that hard to find a sugar baby in Metro Atlanta. I'm a Latino brother of Puerto Rican descent and as a black man I know where to go to find women who'll do that type of stuff and live up to they word. Unlike taking a hit from that sugar baby website. Metropolitan st area is infamous for petty sugar babies, I run into the little young ones all the time. West end mall is another location and so is cascade rd. Oakland city area is another location, if sugar babing thots is not your thing how about being over in Edgewood ave area and Bugalos on Ponce. Really Zone 5 period is a nice area too pick up more classy looking sisters. I ran into some at Stone Crest mall and from the looks of things South Dekalb can be another one. I even met some in Gwinnett who was looking for getting their bills, if you're looking for the Asian ones who can date black guys without getting stigmatized by there families Clayco will be your best bet. My suggestion to you is too approach a woman with confidence and let it be known what you're trying to do and see I'd she's down for. I can only see myself doing such a thing for a young innocent looking one at least a hot slim looking 19 yr old if and only if I had the money but LOL I'm broke.

Harley32
07-24-15, 10:52
The SD sites are a waste of time in my opinion. The idea is sound but the nonpro women really believe they are worth $500 to $2 k per month. A lot of nonpros are attractive college age women that believe they can find an SD to take care of them while they go to school. Some can. That was the biggest issue I had found. Found 1 moderately attractive women and contacted her about an initial meet and greet. She wanted $75 for that.

Some of the onlinebootycall and AFF sites have part time and full time pros that will offer decent value. But a lot of the same people are already on CL and BP.

Good luck.I'm confused. How is $500 per month a bad price for a nonpro SB? See her at least once a week and you're at $125 per visit. Since she's a non-pro she's not likely to have you on the clock like an escort would, at least that's been my experience. Like anything, you get what you pay for. In most cases the college hottie that has great tits and an ass you can bounce quarters off of is going to be a LOT more expensive than the 25-35 yr old mom with kids that's looking for some help with grocery money. Go figure. But a lot of moms are great at sucking cock and will let you do whatever as many times as you'd like. Not a bad deal in my book.

The SD sites like Seeking Arrangement and Sugar Daddy for Me work. But it does take a lot of time and work on your part. Look through this thread. There are some great suggestions about how to approach them. Sign up for 30 days and see how it goes. It will take time, perhaps even a few weeks before you can set up your first meet or date. It's not like backpage, at least with the non-pros.

Steak 404
07-24-15, 12:39
I'm confused. How is $500 per month a bad price for a nonpro SB? See her at least once a week and you're at $125 per visit. Since she's a non-pro she's not likely to have you on the clock like an escort would, at least that's been my experience. Like anything, you get what you pay for. In most cases the college hottie that has great tits and an ass you can bounce quarters off of is going to be a LOT more expensive than the 25-35 yr old mom with kids that's looking for some help with grocery money. Go figure. But a lot of moms are great at sucking cock and will let you do whatever as many times as you'd like. Not a bad deal in my book.

The SD sites like Seeking Arrangement and Sugar Daddy for Me work. But it does take a lot of time and work on your part. Look through this thread. There are some great suggestions about how to approach them. Sign up for 30 days and see how it goes. It will take time, perhaps even a few weeks before you can set up your first meet or date. It's not like backpage, at least with the non-pros.Exactly. The whole point behind finding SBs is to find a few gems that are down for an arrangement but aren't on BP or the street seeing dozens of guys a week. You shouldn't be naive and think you are the only guy they are seeing but the volume should be much lower. The tradeoff is you have to spend time weeding thru a bunch on "prospects" ("suspects" to find the good ones.

Slo Mo
07-24-15, 13:49
I'm aware of the whole hacking incident, but who all on here has had any luck with Ashley Madison? I love the concept but was it a nice amount of hot chick's to choose from?

Viktor213
08-01-15, 18:13
I'm confused. How is $500 per month a bad price for a nonpro SB? See her at least once a week and you're at $125 per visit. Since she's a non-pro she's not likely to have you on the clock like an escort would, at least that's been my experience. Like anything, you get what you pay for. In most cases the college hottie that has great tits and an ass you can bounce quarters off of is going to be a LOT more expensive than the 25-35 yr old mom with kids that's looking for some help with grocery money. Go figure. But a lot of moms are great at sucking cock and will let you do whatever as many times as you'd like. Not a bad deal in my book.

The SD sites like Seeking Arrangement and Sugar Daddy for Me work. But it does take a lot of time and work on your part. Look through this thread. There are some great suggestions about how to approach them. Sign up for 30 days and see how it goes. It will take time, perhaps even a few weeks before you can set up your first meet or date. It's not like backpage, at least with the non-pros.Sorry for the late reply. As always dudes do what's best for their game so if it's working for you more power. I say that without hate. Based on my time on those sites "support" expectations were closer to $1100 per month. $500 was suggested by some BP pros that also post there. (After you start corresponding and get an email address you find them with BP ads) I have an issue with $125 per visit. Yes there are some decent BP providers that would do GFE for $125 per visit. But more importantly I run my own ads on BP and I get spinners (not my thing) and college girl non-pros hitting me up and most would jump at $500 a month. So in my humble opinion the same situation the SD sites are looking for can be built on your own for little cost and better pricing with same result.

Currently trading emails with a college girl now. She's asking for $300. But Again if it's working for you do it.

Viktor213
08-01-15, 18:22
Exactly. The whole point behind finding SBs is to find a few gems that are down for an arrangement but aren't on BP or the street seeing dozens of guys a week. You shouldn't be naive and think you are the only guy they are seeing but the volume should be much lower. The tradeoff is you have to spend time weeding thru a bunch on "prospects" ("suspects" to find the good ones.Steak I feel that. You read my posts and you know that I am big on part timers for the reasons you state. So the question is is there a way to get quality non pro civilians into your stable. For me the answer is yes. I don't have time or patience for CL, Tagged, AFF, and shit like that. I want to deal with women that are not full time pros but accessible and reasonably priced. If SD sites work for you cool. For me BP ads is the men for women section is pure gold. I have women from all over the city that are all races and all builds hitting me up. Not bragging and not talking shit. Since they're hitting me up I have the negotiating power.

Same as the SD girls they wouldn't be out there if they didn't need help.

Happy Safe Hunting.

ReaperGuy
08-03-15, 03:26
Steak I feel that. You read my posts and you know that I am big on part timers for the reasons you state. So the question is is there a way to get quality non pro civilians into your stable. For me the answer is yes. I don't have time or patience for CL, Tagged, AFF, and shit like that. I want to deal with women that are not full time pros but accessible and reasonably priced. If SD sites work for you cool. For me BP ads is the men for women section is pure gold. I have women from all over the city that are all races and all builds hitting me up. Not bragging and not talking shit. Since they're hitting me up I have the negotiating power.

Same as the SD girls they wouldn't be out there if they didn't need help.

Happy Safe Hunting.I usually post in the Richmond SB / SD forum since it's extremely active with people across the US posting in it. I've had a good bit of luck with SA, I tend to ignore the other sites like SD4 M as you're more likely to hit pure UTRs. I've even found girls posting that also have ads up on Backpage, same pictures and all. You can definitely find what you're looking for on there, it just takes some time and searching. Per usual don't believe a word a woman says or writes, just hit her up with your amount and see what sticks. I've had some very nice looking girls take 100-150 a date, just be prepared to lay the law down if things aren't going how you want.

Hornyg
08-13-15, 09:43
If you do a search of my previous posts, you'll find one I did in 2012 after my first UTR hook up through CL. I have hooked up with at least 30 (give or take) other ladies since then. Around 25 of them were just a one date thing and prices ranged from 45 to 200 for unlimited time, multiple pops at their location. The other 5 were just plain crazy sluts that wanted cock.

Now, some maths, for each successful hook up, I probably dealt with 3-5 time wasters, flaky college students, and ladies with GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome) asking for 400 for 1-hour of their time, or 1000 'allowance' each moth. Screw that! I've been stood up about 10 times (after driving up to 1 hour), dealt with detectives impersonating a woman seeking a NSA encounter and then trying to find out who I was so they can extort money from me so they don't tell the misus, scammers, spammers, and potential stalkers, etc. , etc. , etc. But for me all is worth it for some high-quality experience with women that in another life, I would have happily hooked up with without monetary compensation.

I've learnt a lot through these experiences. I can now spot a scammer / detective ad from miles away, immediately can weed out the respondents that will be time wasters, and more importantly, I also learnt to pace myself and protect my privacy. Unlike the BP providers, these chicks do care about looks and you must have something going on for yourself. Regardless of social status, if you come across as a well-spoken gentlemen, no creepy, just a nice guy, they'll sleep with you. I found out that women like fantasies, they don't get turn on by images as we men do, but by detailed descriptions of yourself, previous experiences, and what you plan to do to them (long e-mails). Remember those school teacher that told you how important grammar and writing was, well, they were preparing us to get lucky!

I never discussed donations through texting, e-mailing, etc. I always meet them in a public place first and tell them "we'll discuss details then", have a normal conversation first about the weather, local politics, nice restaurants in the area, travels, their hobbies, etc. After they have seen you are just a 'normal guy' they pretty much will take whatever you offer them. Another thing I also learnt is that they disappear from your life as quickly as they appeared, so you can't get attached in any form to anyone.

The secret of these pursuits is simply put as: PATIENCE.

Like hunting, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but the pursuit is perhaps better than the killing. LOL.

Mike7794
10-09-15, 20:25
If you do a search of my previous posts, you'll find one I did in 2012 after my first UTR hook up through CL. I have hooked up with at least 30 (give or take) other ladies since then. Around 25 of them were just a one date thing and prices ranged from 45 to 200 for unlimited time, multiple pops at their location. The other 5 were just plain crazy sluts that wanted cock.

Now, some maths, for each successful hook up, I probably dealt with 3-5 time wasters, flaky college students, and ladies with GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome) asking for 400 for 1-hour of their time, or 1000 'allowance' each moth. Screw that! I've been stood up about 10 times (after driving up to 1 hour), dealt with detectives impersonating a woman seeking a NSA encounter and then trying to find out who I was so they can extort money from me so they don't tell the misus, scammers, spammers, and potential stalkers, etc. , etc. , etc. But for me all is worth it for some high-quality experience with women that in another life, I would have happily hooked up with without monetary compensation.

I've learnt a lot through these experiences. I can now spot a scammer / detective ad from miles away, immediately can weed out the respondents that will be time wasters, and more importantly, I also learnt to pace myself and protect my privacy. Unlike the BP providers, these chicks do care about looks and you must have something going on for yourself. Regardless of social status, if you come across as a well-spoken gentlemen, no creepy, just a nice guy, they'll sleep with you. I found out that women like fantasies, they don't get turn on by images as we men do, but by detailed descriptions of yourself, previous experiences, and what you plan to do to them (long e-mails). Remember those school teacher that told you how important grammar and writing was, well, they were preparing us to get lucky!

I never discussed donations through texting, e-mailing, etc. I always meet them in a public place first and tell them "we'll discuss details then", have a normal conversation first about the weather, local politics, nice restaurants in the area, travels, their hobbies, etc. After they have seen you are just a 'normal guy' they pretty much will take whatever you offer them. Another thing I also learnt is that they disappear from your life as quickly as they appeared, so you can't get attached in any form to anyone.

The secret of these pursuits is simply put as: PATIENCE.

Like hunting, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but the pursuit is perhaps better than the killing. LOL.Well said. It was interesting to read that you encountered LE on a sugar site?

GetHot17
10-09-15, 21:15
I recently had some luck via Plenty of Fish. Young single mothers are really hurting for the coin around this time of year. I dreamt I was able to receive a very excellent BBBJ in the back of a young mother's van a couple days ago. Redhead piece of white trash but her BBBJ skills were out of this world.

Mr.Inch
11-14-15, 14:49
I recently had some luck via Plenty of Fish. Young single mothers are really hurting for the coin around this time of year. I dreamt I was able to receive a very excellent BBBJ in the back of a young mother's van a couple days ago. Redhead piece of white trash but her BBBJ skills were out of this world.What's her screen name, won't mention anything to her.

Gashy Guy
11-15-15, 12:35
I recently had some luck via Plenty of Fish. Young single mothers are really hurting for the coin around this time of year. I dreamt I was able to receive a very excellent BBBJ in the back of a young mother's van a couple days ago. Redhead piece of white trash but her BBBJ skills were out of this world.Do you have contact info you can PM to me?

Thanks!

Hornyg
11-20-15, 10:35
I started fishing again through CL for non-pros, single mums or college students seeking financial assistance in the major Atlanta area and have notice two trends (discussed before in other threads):

1) Their expectations in terms of compensation have skyrocketed. Before a single, 30 something years-old mum, would happily take my. 80 roses offer for at least one hour of their time. I am now dealing with 40 or 50 years old that want at least 1. 50 for their troubles.

2) When turning my offer down, the most common argument is "I have received better offers from other men!" They even want to have some gas money to meet first in a public place.

This can well be the fact that most non-pro have moved to other sites like PoF, Kink, tagged, etc. Or simply the local economy has picked up so they have more options. However, I also think the demand across the board for pros & non-pros have also skyrocketed. Whatever it is, it's become quite difficult to engage these women.

Viktor213
11-27-15, 09:53
I started fishing again through CL for non-pros, single mums or college students seeking financial assistance in the major Atlanta area and have notice two trends (discussed before in other threads):

1) Their expectations in terms of compensation have skyrocketed. Before a single, 30 something years-old mum, would happily take my. 80 roses offer for at least one hour of their time. I am now dealing with 40 or 50 years old that want at least 1. 50 for their troubles.

2) When turning my offer down, the most common argument is "I have received better offers from other men!" They even want to have some gas money to meet first in a public place.

This can well be the fact that most non-pro have moved to other sites like PoF, Kink, tagged, etc. Or simply the local economy has picked up so they have more options. However, I also think the demand across the board for pros & non-pros have also skyrocketed. Whatever it is, it's become quite difficult to engage these women.Haven't seen the same thing. I don't post on CL but there is lots of talent offering time for less. If you like white, spinner types then yes their rates have not gone down and the people replying to your post were probably pros.

Viktor.

Member #2227
11-27-15, 23:14
Haven't seen the same thing. I don't post on CL but there is lots of talent offering time for less. If you like white, spinner types then yes their rates have not gone down and the people replying to your post were probably pros.

Viktor.Where are you finding them these days. I was pretty effective a few years ago when craigslist was big but don't know the market these days. Avoiding the pure SD sites is my preference.

Slo Mo
11-28-15, 15:43
Where are you finding them these days. I was pretty effective a few years ago when craigslist was big but don't know the market these days. Avoiding the pure SD sites is my preference.Yeah I just got off a 3 month binge with the SD sites, it looks like the prices are going to be $300 and up. Some of the greedy girls even want an initial meet and greet fee, sorry that was just to expensive for my blood. At least I don't have to wonder anymore, I know how it goes. Maybe when the income gets to that level but not right now. I did score a couple of shots of free trim on there but that's about it. I think I'm going to try AFF now or some alternative, if anyone has any suggestions please feel free to share. POF is to flooded for me, to much work to due and I'm not the model looking type of dude LOL.

Viktor213
12-31-15, 12:17
Where are you finding them these days. I was pretty effective a few years ago when craigslist was big but don't know the market these days. Avoiding the pure SD sites is my preference.Sorry late reply. Don't check this forum that often. PM me for details.

VinceVon
12-31-15, 12:31
I think I'm going to try AFF now or some alternative, if anyone has any suggestions please feel free to share. POF is to flooded for me, to much work to due and I'm not the model looking type of dude LOL.AFF is a whole lot of BS in my experience. Do some research on the site, a deep google search not just the first 2 pages of results since those are propped up by their marketers. POF you have to be careful with since they automatically ban your username if you send something like a dozen or more PM's in a short period of time, you can kind of get around that by sending unique messages instead of a ton of very similar ones. But their auto ban software is very trigger happy. Have had and worked with multiple accounts on both sites over the years. POF is better IMO but you may have to burn through a couple emails and bans to get some good play. Also both, not surprisingly, have plenty of fake profiles in the college girl age range and this is where your internet mongering expertise will help with that screening before you send a message to them:-the.

Anvil
01-23-17, 18:34
I know there's an active sugar baby scene here in Atlanta. What killed this thread?

Homer15
01-23-17, 19:23
Don't know about this thread. And I know most would be reluctant to share when they find an awesome SB (no offense guys, but I wouldn't! BUT. It would be very helpful for folks to post here when they have an awful experience with a girl, or a girl has GPS, or also escorts, etc. Nothing personally identifiable of course. Just saying it would save a lot of trouble. The downside to finding a SB is that it is very time consuming, and in my experiences I have run into girl who are straight up escorts (nothing wrong with that, but you may as well save your membership fees from signing up on a SB site), or some are just total bitches or psycho. And then there are the gems you can't believe you got lucky with!


I know there's an active sugar baby scene here in Atlanta. What killed this thread?

Totalcsllc
01-24-17, 09:37
Don't know about this thread. And I know most would be reluctant to share when they find an awesome SB (no offense guys, but I wouldn't! BUT. It would be very helpful for folks to post here when they have an awful experience with a girl, or a girl has GPS, or also escorts, etc. Nothing personally identifiable of course. Just saying it would save a lot of trouble. The downside to finding a SB is that it is very time consuming, and in my experiences I have run into girl who are straight up escorts (nothing wrong with that, but you may as well save your membership fees from signing up on a SB site), or some are just total bitches or psycho. And then there are the gems you can't believe you got lucky with!Personally I have had a lot of success on Seeking Arrangement. I have met quite a few and they all have been bare services. They have ranged from 24 yrs to 38 yrs. Well also there was a 50 yr old in Orlando. All very hot and loved sex. I would generally pay around $200 to $400 but it would cover several hours each visit and overnight in some cases.

Anvil
01-24-17, 10:27
Personally I have had a lot of success on Seeking Arrangement. I have met quite a few and they all have been bare services. They have ranged from 24 yrs to 38 yrs. Well also there was a 50 yr old in Orlando. All very hot and loved sex. I would generally pay around $200 to $400 but it would cover several hours each visit and overnight in some cases.I have had a great deal of success but that is in Cincinnati where we are constantly advising each other, both good and bad. Realistically a sub is not forever so when you release one it's always nice for both sides. It also helps to know straight up which are complete pros so you don't go bare there. There's way too much sugar here for the lack of at least one good forum.

BigMoney21
01-24-17, 17:13
I really don't know if you guys pay attention to the news or not but a couple of months ago. John's used to get robbed or get the shit beat out of them for meeting up with these so called Sugar Babies off the internet and I'm being dead azz serious those stories was running rampant like Craig's list set ups. A while back I saw women posted on Sugar Baby websites claiming too be looking for Sugar Daddy's and I saw these same women on other websites advertising literally for a pimp in their own words.

Now my word of advice is this if you can't pull in the average girl off the streets with money. Then by all means don't try the internet because you just might find yourself in an unfortunate situation.

Then again some of you guys won't pay attention to this post anyway.

Anvil
01-24-17, 18:38
Hot little Hispanic girl with a super set of tits and a great ass. Not GFE. Claimed to have sore throat. But ready to go. Trimmed Bush and nice tightness. I'd repeat on a day she had no sore throat.

Island1981
01-24-17, 19:37
I really don't know if you guys pay attention to the news or not but a couple of months ago. John's used to get robbed or get the shit beat out of them for meeting up with these so called Sugar Babies off the internet and I'm being dead azz serious those stories was running rampant like Craig's list set ups. A while back I saw women posted on Sugar Baby websites claiming too be looking for Sugar Daddy's and I saw these same women on other websites advertising literally for a pimp in their own words.

Now my word of advice is this if you can't pull in the average girl off the streets with money. Then by all means don't try the internet because you just might find yourself in an unfortunate situation.

Then again some of you guys won't pay attention to this post anyway.Man, I am sticking to stripper OTC and UTRs. I never understood why people even use the internet for SBs. There are plenty needy women who need bills payed for. Sometimes they let you know what's up and you don't have to chase them much.

Joesouncool
01-25-17, 15:32
Man, I am sticking to stripper OTC and UTRs. I never understood why people even use the internet for SBs. There are plenty needy women who need bills payed for. Sometimes they let you know what's up and you don't have to chase them much.Bingo. Strippers, girls you meet at bars, shot girls, waitresses, these are all pretty easy to get. There is no magic to it. Just don't be a dick. I'm convinced that being a dick has ruined more guys than anything else. No, I don't mean that not being a dick means allowing chick to try to walk all over you. Being a little bit forward helps, but not too much. Not only are they easy to get, but they are almost always free. And most of them are looking for the same kind of thing, some basic sex to take them away from their daily issues for a while. Most aren't looking to rob you, heck the most recent ones I've found will pay for things. Most of these girls are simple and easy to get. Heck, I find that if you go fishing for shooter girls in a strip club, the fish will practically jump in the boat.

Good luck out there folks. Stay safe.

NuGuy36
01-25-17, 15:41
I'm convinced that being a dick has ruined more guys than anything else. No, I don't mean that not being a dick means allowing chick to try to walk all over you. Being a little bit forward helps, but not too much.So freaking true!

PeteAppleSeed
01-27-17, 17:24
I just signed up to SA. Any tips on how to get one or two time straight to business arrangements?

Most of the girls seem to want a relationship and 1 k or more a month.

What should I look for and how do I approach?

Thanks.


Personally I have had a lot of success on Seeking Arrangement. I have met quite a few and they all have been bare services. They have ranged from 24 yrs to 38 yrs. Well also there was a 50 yr old in Orlando. All very hot and loved sex. I would generally pay around $200 to $400 but it would cover several hours each visit and overnight in some cases.

JoeySteelBalls
01-28-17, 02:54
I just signed up to SA. Any tips on how to get one or two time straight to business arrangements?

Most of the girls seem to want a relationship and 1 k or more a month.

What should I look for and how do I approach?

Thanks.I could give a whole tutorial on SA, as I'm sure a couple others here could as well. I've got about 2 yrs of activity there on both the success and fail sides, but it generally takes weeding through the stack just like our other resource sites (BP, CL, etc). I will say it is a pretty nice stack to weed through though. Just stick to your budget, know what you want and be upfront with them in your initial msgs, at the same time being respectful, and the fruits will start falling from the tree. Good luck and have fun.

JWSouth
01-30-17, 17:28
Anybody had any success (or even attempts) on PoF? I'm sure af not uploading a face picture, which seems to be a pretty big sticking point on there.

DNgelo
01-30-17, 20:09
Anybody had any success (or even attempts) on PoF? I'm sure af not uploading a face picture, which seems to be a pretty big sticking point on there.It's been a long minute since I've used POF but I have a homie who pulls a ton of girls on there. It's not that hard but you got to watch out for the trannies. The ratio of crazy chicks on there is ridiculously high. Happy hunting.

GetHot17
01-30-17, 22:40
Anybody had any success (or even attempts) on PoF? I'm sure af not uploading a face picture, which seems to be a pretty big sticking point on there.There are alot of providers using it now. I was able to find a UTR though. Got some bareback sucky sucky for 60 bones in the back of her van. Was a helluva drive up to Dawsonville. Worth it though to get out of the backpage grind.

Harley32
01-30-17, 23:06
Anybody had any success (or even attempts) on PoF? I'm sure af not uploading a face picture, which seems to be a pretty big sticking point on there.Do a google search and simply find a pic that's similar to yours. That way you're being discrete and not really deceiving any potential match. Mine looks amazingly like Brad Pitt. LOL.

Red Wolff
01-30-17, 23:43
Hot little Hispanic girl with a super set of tits and a great ass. Not GFE. Claimed to have sore throat. But ready to go. Trimmed Bush and nice tightness. I'd repeat on a day she had no sore throat.What's her contact info? Thanks!

SkyHighBuilder
01-31-17, 07:52
I just signed up to SA. Any tips on how to get one or two time straight to business arrangements?

Most of the girls seem to want a relationship and 1 k or more a month.

What should I look for and how do I approach?

Thanks.I've been on there for a couple of months and have had quite a bit of success and YES many seem to think they are going to find a real, wealthy SD that lounges around in a smoking jacket and sips brandy in his mansion but the tend to come down to earth pretty quickly. I always make it clear (including in my intro) that I have NO interest in longterm arrangements. Only looking for the short term P4 P type stuff and it works. The women can post profiles for free with pics so they are on there like fleas on a hound!

Happy arranging!

JWSouth
01-31-17, 15:07
There are alot of providers using it now. I was able to find a UTR though. Got some bareback sucky sucky for 60 bones in the back of her van. Was a helluva drive up to Dawsonville. Worth it though to get out of the backpage grind.Hm, I'd be willing to make a haul to Dawsonville for the right slice of ass. If you're willing to share, PM that UTR contact info?


It's been a long minute since I've used POF but I have a homie who pulls a ton of girls on there. It's not that hard but you got to watch out for the trannies. The ratio of crazy chicks on there is ridiculously high. Happy hunting.Trannies: holy shit, you're not kidding LOL. Hell, there's a few that would fuck me up if I met them in a bar. Surprisingly hot for a swinging dick with bolt-ons. Somebody notify JohnnyMapalo, quick! LOL.


Do a google search and simply find a pic that's similar to yours. That way you're being discrete and not really deceiving any potential match. Mine looks amazingly like Brad Pitt. LOL.Good call. Done!

Had a profile for a while, but updated it over the weekend. Messaged a few chicks since then, so we'll see what develops. Would love a UTR or 3; CL and BP are depressing as shit.

RipperMagoo
02-03-17, 18:04
I just signed up to SA. Any tips on how to get one or two time straight to business arrangements?

Most of the girls seem to want a relationship and 1 k or more a month.

What should I look for and how do I approach?

Thanks.Richmond SugarDaddies page is the place where all of your questions will be answered, Grasshopper. Happened across it last weekend. Read as much of it as I could for a couple of days, and started SA account Wednesday. On the first page of that board, I asked a question about Negotiable girls. It was enswered within hours. Also, there is a FAQ page. It has some condensed info on it.

If you want talk about a local girl or local issues do it here. If you have general questions about SA / SD / SB, do it there. It has people from around the country watching it and providing input. I think that is why this thread is slow.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ

Stay Thirsty and Stay Safe my friends.

Meeting an 18 year old Latina tonight at 7. I have lunch scheduled with a 19 yo mixed spinner with huge pumpkins tomorrow. She's a unicorn. I could not belong believe it so I asked her to write my pseudonym on a piece of paper, hold it to her face and take a selfie. She did. Asked another unicorn for that and she went on radio silence.

Airmantroy
02-06-17, 11:32
Richmond SugarDaddies page is the place where all of your questions will be answered, Grasshopper. Happened across it last weekend. Read as much of it as I could for a couple of days, and started SA account Wednesday. On the first page of that board, I asked a question about Negotiable girls. It was enswered within hours. Also, there is a FAQ page. It has some condensed info on it.

If you want talk about a local girl or local issues do it here. If you have general questions about SA / SD / SB, do it there. It has people from around the country watching it and providing input. I think that is why this thread is slow.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ

Stay Thirsty and Stay Safe my friends.

Meeting an 18 year old Latina tonight at 7. I have lunch scheduled with a 19 yo mixed spinner with huge pumpkins tomorrow. She's a unicorn. I could not belong believe it so I asked her to write my pseudonym on a piece of paper, hold it to her face and take a selfie. She did. Asked another unicorn for that and she went on radio silence.I like the idea of having them send a selfie with an identifier, although I took a proactive approach and actually put it in my profile that if they do not look anything like their picture I will walk away immediately. My time is what pays their sugar, waste it and I have no mercy. I had a great time yesterday afternoon for 4 hours with a 29 yr old grand total $$. 5 and a bottle of Gatorade from my fridge as she was leaving, most of the flakes I have encountered have been under 25, the best ones are all over 28.

Harley32
02-06-17, 16:11
I like the idea of having them send a selfie with an identifier, although I took a proactive approach and actually put it in my profile that if they do not look anything like their picture I will walk away immediately. My time is what pays their sugar, waste it and I have no mercy. I had a great time yesterday afternoon for 4 hours with a 29 yr old grand total $$. 5 and a bottle of Gatorade from my fridge as she was leaving, most of the flakes I have encountered have been under 25, the best ones are all over 28.There are some other fairly easy things to do to make sure you're dealing with a real person. You'd be surprised with how many women are using part of their email address as their handle. Searching for that or the contact info they give you on FB is an easy way to both confirm that they're real and even see some pics beyond ones that put them in the best light. Of course, Tineye is a great way to identify fake pics or escorts, etc.

Airmantroy
02-06-17, 16:49
There are some other fairly easy things to do to make sure you're dealing with a real person. You'd be surprised with how many women are using part of their email address as their handle. Searching for that or the contact info they give you on FB is an easy way to both confirm that they're real and even see some pics beyond ones that put them in the best light. Of course, Tineye is a great way to identify fake pics or escorts, etc.I Google their numbers, pictures, email addy, anything they send me. I've been on and off of SA for a couple of years now and in the hobby for 12+ years, for me to get burned it takes some serious skill, I have enough contacts that the little head doesn't control the big head. If I can't find a date I always have pro's and civvie girls that are extremely reliable as well.

Any of why'all have questions about SA chicks in ATL, send me their username via PM and I'll let you know any info I have on her, I know better than to think I'm the only dude they are seeing and don't mind sharing knowledge if I have it.

Thresh
02-10-17, 18:08
Do any of you have experience with "EbRos?" She messaged me and stated she would drive up to meet me. Mind you, I am several states away. It has me puzzled why she is so eager to make the drive and meet.

Please feel free to PM me if preferred.

Cheers: Thresh.

CoveyLeader43
02-10-17, 19:50
Personally I have had a lot of success on Seeking Arrangement. I have met quite a few and they all have been bare services. They have ranged from 24 yrs to 38 yrs. Well also there was a 50 yr old in Orlando. All very hot and loved sex. I would generally pay around $200 to $400 but it would cover several hours each visit and overnight in some cases.I worked SA pretty hard in the summer of 2016. Once I learned the ins and outs I was getting blow jobs in my truck from some of the hottest chicks imaginable. All of them let me cum in their mouths. Most swallowed. I made it clear that I wanted blow Job with cum in mouth and I would pay no more than 100 bucks. I had no arguments from any of them. The main thing is to be straight up with the SA prospects and let them know what you expect. Most are down. The fun part about SA is most of the girls are innocent because they are not escorts. They legitimately just want to please guys for some help with car payments and rent and stuff like that. I got on SA because I was tired of using condoms with pros. I hate rubber. Not one SA girl ever argued when I told them I wanted all bare. I probably fucked or received blowjobs from about 15 different girls on SA in about 2 months. I still get my dick sucked by some that became "regular" go to SA chicks. It's awesome because it's like you're with a girlfriend instead of a pro. And typically when I paid them 200 bucks they stayed for 2 or 3 hours.

TheParce
02-13-17, 13:06
I worked SA pretty hard in the summer of 2016. Once I learned the ins and outs I was getting blow jobs in my truck from some of the hottest chicks imaginable. All of them let me cum in their mouths. Most swallowed. I made it clear that I wanted blow Job with cum in mouth and I would pay no more than 100 bucks. I had no arguments from any of them. The main thing is to be straight up with the SA prospects and let them know what you expect. Most are down. The fun part about SA is most of the girls are innocent because they are not escorts. They legitimately just want to please guys for some help with car payments and rent and stuff like that. I got on SA because I was tired of using condoms with pros. I hate rubber. Not one SA girl ever argued when I told them I wanted all bare. I probably fucked or received blowjobs from about 15 different girls on SA in about 2 months. I still get my dick sucked by some that became "regular" go to SA chicks. It's awesome because it's like you're with a girlfriend instead of a pro. And typically when I paid them 200 bucks they stayed for 2 or 3 hours.Sorry dumb question, but I'm guessing you let them know that's what you wanted before you guys met up? And how did it usually go dinner and then BJ time or what? Thanks just trying to get a feel for how SA works.

CoveyLeader43
02-22-17, 23:32
Sorry dumb question, but I'm guessing you let them know that's what you wanted before you guys met up? And how did it usually go dinner and then BJ time or what? Thanks just trying to get a feel for how SA works.You learn quickly who is trying to BS and not get down to business. I believe I took one 20 year old for pizza. Otherwise I specifically told them what I expected and wanted and was willing to pay. Many of the young girls wil straight up ask you your fetishes. I always just told them straight up. I think every SA girl I ever saw let me cum in their mouth. Some let me do anal. Basically they are freaks but don't have rules like prostitutes. So SA is the bomb. I typically could get great blow jobs for 100 bucks. Full sex and multi pops with no condoms at all for 200. Some chicks try and highball you asking for crazy money and you just tell them what the going rates are. The upside is that guys who have done BP know the bargains. So you use that as leverage. These SA chicks think 100 is a ton of money. Just my thoughts but I had a lot of success and the girls are young and fine as hell. Girl next door almost all of them.

FutSniffA
02-23-17, 19:42
Hello Atlanta,

I'm visiting from Hawaii where I've had great success. Any of you willing to help me with the ladies to avoid? PM is fine.

GetHot17
02-26-17, 01:25
Just went premium on SA a couple days ago. Just got home from visiting a 42 year old MILF in her apartment. Best BBBJ of my life along with BBFSCIP.

Got a cute 24 yo Colombian chick ready for BBFSCIP lunchtime tomorrow.

I'll never step foot on backpage again!!

WheresMyMule
02-26-17, 12:52
Just went premium on SA a couple days ago. Just got home from visiting a 42 year old MILF in her apartment. Best BBBJ of my life along with BBFSCIP.

Got a cute 24 yo Colombian chick ready for BBFSCIP lunchtime tomorrow.

I'll never step foot on backpage again!!SA as in seeking Arrangement?

Thanks.

Totalcsllc
02-26-17, 17:40
Just went premium on SA a couple days ago. Just got home from visiting a 42 year old MILF in her apartment. Best BBBJ of my life along with BBFSCIP.

Got a cute 24 yo Colombian chick ready for BBFSCIP lunchtime tomorrow.

I'll never step foot on backpage again!!Sent you a PM.

NuGuy36
02-26-17, 17:49
Just went premium on SA a couple days ago. Just got home from visiting a 42 year old MILF in her apartment. Best BBBJ of my life along with BBFSCIP.

Got a cute 24 yo Colombian chick ready for BBFSCIP lunchtime tomorrow.

I'll never step foot on backpage again!!White, Black and how much?

GetHot17
02-27-17, 08:10
White, Black and how much?MILF was white. A true UTR. Seemed a little crazy over text so I was reluctant to drive out to her. But so happy I did. Ended up giving her $ after dropping a load in her. She deleted her profile because she's a bit paranoid about everything.

Bu1788
02-27-17, 19:19
Just discovered the forum and wanted to say hi. I've been sugaring off and on for a few years. I go in spurts, been back on SA for awhile now and I love the idea of comparing notes. It takes awhile to figure the game out but you can have solid fun.

It seems there's more pro's on SA now as opposed to just a short 6 months ago, anyone else notice this?

Donkey Kong55
02-28-17, 12:34
Just discovered the forum and wanted to say hi. I've been sugaring off and on for a few years. I go in spurts, been back on SA for awhile now and I love the idea of comparing notes. It takes awhile to figure the game out but you can have solid fun.

It seems there's more pro's on SA now as opposed to just a short 6 months ago, anyone else notice this?I'm in Augusta and use SA. Some of these chicks are fucking crazy asking 400 a visit. Guess I just need to get down to it and tell them what I'm willing to pay from the sound of it. Cheapest one I got was $150, never paid the $400 price tag. Most I paid was $250.

JeffInnAtlanta
03-01-17, 09:08
So it costs $80 a month to upgrade and read messages? Seriously?

Airmantroy
03-01-17, 11:34
So it costs $80 a month to upgrade and read messages? Seriously?If you can't afford $80 a month for seemingly unlimited pussy, you might be on the wrong site.

PeteAppleSeed
03-01-17, 15:36
If you can't afford $80 a month for seemingly unlimited pussy, you might be on the wrong site.Wait a minute, can't you bypass the payment by posting a picture? Doesn't that allow you to communicate with girls?

RipperMagoo
03-01-17, 16:30
Wait a minute, can't you bypass the payment by posting a picture? Doesn't that allow you to communicate with girls?It does. You have a limited amount of messages per month. I don't know the limit though.

BigMoney21
03-01-17, 16:36
A while back I posted up a Sugar Baby who advertise on Backpage and some other website searching for a Sugar Daddy. And this same woman I'm speaking of was advertising how she was looking for a real pimp someone who's been in the game for a longtime. Well here is her BP ad and when I obtain her picture I'll be more than happy to post it up.

Harley32
03-01-17, 17:04
Wait a minute, can't you bypass the payment by posting a picture? Doesn't that allow you to communicate with girls?No, it will allow you to view and search profiles but no communication.

Harley32
03-01-17, 17:06
If you can't afford $80 a month for seemingly unlimited pussy, you might be on the wrong site.It's $80 just to communicate, the pussy is extra of course.

PeteAppleSeed
03-01-17, 17:16
It's $80 just to communicate, the pussy is extra of course.I'm a very on demand user, In other words I cannot set up appointments days in advance, I usually book an hour or two in advance.

Is this possible with SA?

Abcd123
03-01-17, 21:51
I know I'm a rare poster but I got a question. I joined SA and a girl messaged me. I feel like I have seen her reviews on this forum somewhere but couldn't find anything based on what I presume is her name from her handle. What are my options to find out if I can? Thanks.

Grizzly383
03-01-17, 23:16
I'm a very on demand user, In other words I cannot set up appointments days in advance, I usually book an hour or two in advance.

Is this possible with SA?There are some pro escorts on SA and some regular girls. In a few days of experience with SA I have come to know that a lot of these younger (around 25 and less) girls want some millionaire to take them out to fancy restaurants and shopping sprees (one 20 yo on her profile had "if I can get a debit card that will be great" WTF). I have sent messages to a lot of them asking to meet but they want us to pay for their drinks AND give them something, without putting out. I told one of them I can pay for your drinks and stuff but can't give you shit if don't put out (obviously I phrased it better), and she got pissed. So it is very important to tell them what you expect upfront.

I have a couple of them who are ready for everything for a reasonable price who (I think) will be ready to meet in a few hours notice. But then there is a problem of a place, some of them don't host so you got to get a place. It take a good amount of time and effort.

This is where I started http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ..

SkyHighBuilder
03-02-17, 08:21
I know I'm a rare poster but I got a question. I joined SA and a girl messaged me. I feel like I have seen her reviews on this forum somewhere but couldn't find anything based on what I presume is her name from her handle. What are my options to find out if I can? Thanks.Message her back and ask her for a pic or some way to confirm!

Ozymandias
03-02-17, 12:01
I know I'm a rare poster but I got a question. I joined SA and a girl messaged me. I feel like I have seen her reviews on this forum somewhere but couldn't find anything based on what I presume is her name from her handle. What are my options to find out if I can? Thanks.Message her for some pics, then Google search the pics to see if they hit some ads, and post here to see if anyone recognizes her.

O.

JWSouth
03-02-17, 12:07
And this:


There are some pro escorts on SA and some regular girls. In a few days of experience with SA I have come to know that a lot of these younger (around 25 and less) girls want some millionaire to take them out to fancy restaurants and shopping sprees (one 20 yo on her profile had "if I can get a debit card that will be great" WTF). I have sent messages to a lot of them asking to meet but they want us to pay for their drinks AND give them something, without putting out. I told one of them I can pay for your drinks and stuff but can't give you shit if don't put out (obviously I phrased it better), and she got pissed. So it is very important to tell them what you expect upfront.

I have a couple of them who are ready for everything for a reasonable price who (I think) will be ready to meet in a few hours notice. But then there is a problem of a place, some of them don't host so you got to get a place. It take a good amount of time and effort.Is why I think this post's sentiment isn't as outrageous as some of you made out:


So it costs $80 a month to upgrade and read messages? Seriously?My initial reaction still holds (namely, "if you have to ask the price, you probably can't afford it") but I think you can believe that that's a good guideline for this hobby AND think that SA is outrageously overpriced LOL.

Abcd123
03-02-17, 13:35
Message her for some pics, then Google search the pics to see if they hit some ads, and post here to see if anyone recognizes her.

O.She has some pics on her profile page. I tried to google couple of her pictures but nothing came up. I wasn't expecting anything to come up since backpage section went down. I appreciate yalls help.

Harley32
03-02-17, 14:24
I'm a very on demand user, In other words I cannot set up appointments days in advance, I usually book an hour or two in advance.

Is this possible with SA?I don't think you can expect to contact someone initially and meet them in an hour or two. But, you can contact someone and get all the details of the deal worked out ahead of time and simply meet when you're available. That will be different for every lady of course. For the most part these aren't pros. So, they've got their own life and may work or go to school. This isn't like BP, it will take more work but the quality of who you'll meet is likely to be far higher. They'll often be willing to spend FAR longer with you if that's something you're interested in. One thing to keep in mind is that many of the ladies on there aren't able to offer incall so you'll need to provide the place in many cases.

Airmantroy
03-02-17, 14:32
Wait a minute, can't you bypass the payment by posting a picture? Doesn't that allow you to communicate with girls?The message limit was 10, I'm not sure if that's still an option. From what I was told if you tried to include a phone number or email address into the message if was changed to some pre written crap by their system. These guys have thought of pretty much every way to lock down their site to get you to pony up. Honestly $80 for 30 days is kinda steep in my opinion, and the work that goes into weeding the flakes and GPS girls out is even more trying, BUT when you find that 10/10 chick that will fuck your brains out 6 ways from Sunday for $150-200 maybe 300. It's worth the hassle.

I will say that the best girls I have been with are all over 30 yrs old. And they know exactly what they are doing and do it well without bitching.

Abcd123
03-02-17, 20:06
Message her for some pics, then Google search the pics to see if they hit some ads, and post here to see if anyone recognizes her.

O.Google searching her pics was the first thing I did and didn't get any hits. Figured with the BP section shut down I would find anything. Here are a few of the pics of her. Thanks for your help.

Harley32
03-03-17, 15:59
Google searching her pics was the first thing I did and didn't get any hits. Figured with the BP section shut down I would find anything. Here are a few of the pics of her. Thanks for your help.I didn't get anything off Tineye. Go ahead and take the plunge. See if you can work something out with her. Once you get her contact info you can search that as well. You can get a good sense of whether she's a pro or not from how the negotiations go. If she starts asking when you can come over it's a good sign that this is her business. That's not necessarily a bad thing as long as you get what you want for a reasonable amount.

Bu1788
03-06-17, 19:06
I'm in Augusta and use SA. Some of these chicks are fucking crazy asking 400 a visit. Guess I just need to get down to it and tell them what I'm willing to pay from the sound of it. Cheapest one I got was $150, never paid the $400 price tag. Most I paid was $250.I just searched Augusta and there's some potential there. Athens isn't that far of a drive and I know theirs a few there. The most I've paid is 3, most times 2 or 2.5. And that's not for an hour that multiple hours. I have 4 in my current rotation and I've yet to spend less than 3 hours together. That typically includes, play time then dinner at my house, then play again and some stay over night for a repeat in the morning.

There is always some that think they have a golden kitten and ask way to much, but the good thing about Atlanta is there's plenty more kittens out there. Sometime you just got to cut bait.

It also helps to have some game and not come off as an asshole.

RegulatorD
03-07-17, 15:49
I am a heavy SA hitter in the Cincy area, and was coming to the ATL for a weekend. Can anybody pass a couple of stellar talents my way. PM's appreciated.

Donkey Kong55
03-08-17, 06:43
I just searched Augusta and there's some potential there. Athens isn't that far of a drive and I know theirs a few there. The most I've paid is 3, most times 2 or 2.5. And that's not for an hour that multiple hours. I have 4 in my current rotation and I've yet to spend less than 3 hours together. That typically includes, play time then dinner at my house, then play again and some stay over night for a repeat in the morning.

There is always some that think they have a golden kitten and ask way to much, but the good thing about Atlanta is there's plenty more kittens out there. Sometime you just got to cut bait.

It also helps to have some game and not come off as an asshole.Yeah, I'm learning the ins and outs. I'm attached so extra fun on the side is all I have time for. Otherwise yeah, I'd make dinner at my house and see about overnights. Columbia, SC isn't too far from me either and there is plenty potential there as well. Thanks for the input.

OnyxRain
03-09-17, 11:42
Is this chick in Covington? We connected on SA and J found an ad for her shortly thereafter. We never physically hooked up though. Here's the ad:

http://www.************.com/atlanta/classifieds/ad/57c60a88462f3hsn2HcCdheP-xC3A5z_ELY5SLOyOyH8cPk-xn/


She has some pics on her profile page. I tried to google couple of her pictures but nothing came up. I wasn't expecting anything to come up since backpage section went down. I appreciate yalls help.

PeteAppleSeed
03-09-17, 13:30
Is this chick in Covington? We connected on SA and J found an ad for her shortly thereafter. We never physically hooked up though. Here's the ad:

http://www.************.com/atlanta/classifieds/ad/57c60a88462f3hsn2HcCdheP-xC3A5z_ELY5SLOyOyH8cPk-xn/Dude, it's great that you're doing your editing work when posting here but at least give us a hint of which site it is, it's a bunch*'s and we have no idea which website it's for.

Try posting it like this www. B* com or www. C*urlreplacement0} or www. *sl* org.

Airmantroy
03-09-17, 14:41
Dude, it's great that you're doing your editing work when posting here but at least give us a hint of which site it is, it's a bunch*'s and we have no idea which website it's for.

Try posting it like this www. B* com or www. C*urlreplacement0} or www. *sl* org.He didn't edit it. The site does that.

Abcd123
03-09-17, 15:03
Is this chick in Covington? We connected on SA and J found an ad for her shortly thereafter. We never physically hooked up though. Here's the ad:

http://www.************.com/atlanta/classifieds/ad/57c60a88462f3hsn2HcCdheP-xC3A5z_ELY5SLOyOyH8cPk-xn/I can't see the ad site you posted but her profile says she from Covington. I haven't heard back from her and my gut is telling me she's a pro so I haven't bothered further.

PeteAppleSeed
03-09-17, 16:53
He didn't edit it. The site does that.Oh, I didn't know that, so I guess before that you can just tell us if his BP or CL or AS or EB or whatever.

BKeeper
03-09-17, 19:32
Long-time lurker here.

I saw this story on the 6:00 PM wsbtv (Channel 2) news today (I will also post in the "News" forum, but, figured I'd post here first).

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/north-fulton-county/8-women-held-against-their-will-in-nearly-1-million-sandy-springs-home-police-say/500735977

Now, while this is an unfortunate situation where a guy took advantage of girls who posted on the website, it also could (potentially) get LE to thinking of checking out the site further.

If I hear anything more, I'll let why'all know.

Stay safe out there.

MrHobbyist
03-10-17, 05:55
Long-time lurker here.

I saw this story on the 6:00 PM wsbtv (Channel 2) news today (I will also post in the "News" forum, but, figured I'd post here first).

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/north-fulton-county/8-women-held-against-their-will-in-nearly-1-million-sandy-springs-home-police-say/500735977

Now, while this is an unfortunate situation where a guy took advantage of girls who posted on the website, it also could (potentially) get LE to thinking of checking out the site further.

If I hear anything more, I'll let why'all know.

Stay safe out there.How did he hold them "captive" *AND* make them dance at strip clubs. Seems counter-intuitive. I'll bet there is a whole lot more to this story. I'm not condoning what he did, just sayin.

Airmantroy
03-10-17, 11:14
Oh, I didn't know that, so I guess before that you can just tell us if his BP or CL or AS or EB or whatever.I haven't tried out the combination to see what it was, it looks like city vibe-rations. Or maybe craigs.


I can't see the ad site you posted but her profile says she from Covington. I haven't heard back from her and my gut is telling me she's a pro so I haven't bothered further.I've texted with her a little bit, she was trying to push me into an appointment saying she was going to be in my area in a couple of hours. She may not be a full blown pro, but she is pretty close. Never discussed a dollar amount.

OnyxRain
03-12-17, 16:27
Yeah, he's right. The site blocked the address. Hers another link. But the one I posted from was a sexy service.

http://backpage.com.atlanta.hoxnif.com/post/17651363/#.


Oh, I didn't know that, so I guess before that you can just tell us if his BP or CL or AS or EB or whatever.

BKeeper
03-13-17, 13:32
How did he hold them "captive" *AND* make them dance at strip clubs. Seems counter-intuitive. I'll bet there is a whole lot more to this story. I'm not condoning what he did, just sayin.He supposedly threatened their families, or threatened to expose the girls' activities to their families.

Personally, I think the girls knew what they were doing, loved making the money, and the reason it's in the news is b / c one of them got pissed, and decided to rat him out.

Grizzly383
03-15-17, 02:31
So I have been talking to a bunch of 18 - 25 girls who are up for pay for play but they are freaking asking for more than 300 pv. Is this just ATL rates over there are bunch of millionaires on SA who are fine with it?

DRickGiver5
03-15-17, 12:40
He supposedly threatened their families, or threatened to expose the girls' activities to their families.

Personally, I think the girls knew what they were doing, loved making the money, and the reason it's in the news is b / c one of them got pissed, and decided to rat him out.Nah, just some fools will pay that when you can get the same thing, or even more for less. I had a few try that on me and they never got a dime out of me. However I did convince a few to accept 1 or 1. 5 and had my way with them as long as I wanted. However there are a lot of them on there that want you to pay 3 plus for a little of their time. So just find the ones that will negotiate with you and try to stay away from the God gifts to the world girls.

Airmantroy
03-27-17, 20:41
The rents due, car payments are due. And the pond is filling up with fresh fish. LOL No size limits.

Airmantroy
03-27-17, 23:30
20 yr old "virgin" LMFAO. Yeah right she wants 350-400 for a little DATY. I'm still laughing my ass off! Search for ethnicity= mixed keyword=virgin.

Airmantroy
03-30-17, 11:47
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/f48594d5-8111-4188-93c8-1ceed7c5248a

Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes the bug. My ass got smeared across the windshield. LMAO.

Her pics are great, except they were taken at VERY VERY flattering angles, filtered to hell and back, and she had on makeup in them.

Dropped her off in The Bluffs after I wasted my sleep with her. Soooooo not worth it.

John HandCock
03-30-17, 13:34
So I have been talking to a bunch of 18 - 25 girls who are up for pay for play but they are freaking asking for more than 300 pv. Is this just ATL rates over there are bunch of millionaires on SA who are fine with it?Yeah a bunch of guys can afford those rates and pay them. It's the way of the world, someone always have the money. If the girls can get it good for them. For guys that don't have the money to pay there are girls in your budget that are happy with what they get. I never get pissed because I can't afford a certain girl, I just move on. Someone will always have more money.

Airmantroy
03-30-17, 14:55
Yeah a bunch of guys can afford those rates and pay them. It's the way of the world, someone always have the money. If the girls can get it good for them. For guys that don't have the money to pay there are girls in your budget that are happy with what they get. I never get pissed because I can't afford a certain girl, I just move on. Someone will always have more money.Maybe where you live dude, from what I'm hearing from the girls I have ACTUALLY met, the guys in Atlanta are mostly full of shit, never want to meet, and only want the girls to send them pictures. Damn, I have a computer, Google, and a vivid imagination. The hell with paying for pictures, I mean who seriously does that?

Whatever the girls are "asking" cut it in half and start there. NEVER EVER give them money to meet you for a M&G drink or meal. If they ask for money before you meet they are violating the SA website rules. Use the report button accordingly.

The Parrot
03-30-17, 17:30
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SkyHighBuilder
08-11-17, 07:31
Gosh, I didn't realize how many women I was seeing off of SA till just now. And I'm starting to feel it too, LOL. I'm a 60 ish white guy and sometimes I'm hitting 2 a day recently. That's the main reason I started the Out of the BLUE thread, because I need the boost, HA.

Anyway, I have this other nice one that wants to come out today. Saw her yesterday and had a blast. We are a basic weekly schedule together. So she doesn't want to be a high volume provider but would like to add a couple of guys to her list. She has VERY small breasts with very responsive nipples, a slim waist and a DONK ass. She is a total sweetheart and loves to fuck.

Her name is Carrie. Ask me for digits.

Oh yeah, I forgot to say she's in Douglasville area for you west side guys...

FlowBB
08-11-17, 14:52
Gosh, I didn't realize how many women I was seeing off of SA till just now. And I'm starting to feel it too, LOL. I'm a 60 ish white guy and sometimes I'm hitting 2 a day recently. That's the main reason I started the Out of the BLUE thread, because I need the boost, HA.

Anyway, I have this other nice one that wants to come out today. Saw her yesterday and had a blast. We are a basic weekly schedule together. So she doesn't want to be a high volume provider but would like to add a couple of guys to her list. She has VERY small breasts with very responsive nipples, a slim waist and a DONK ass. She is a total sweetheart and loves to fuck.

Her name is Carrie. Ask me for digits.

Oh yeah, I forgot to say she's in Douglasville area for you west side guys...Thanks for her digits Sky. I was able to meet up with her today. She is new to town and doesn't have her own place so no incall but she was open for car play. We found a quite place to park and just got the oral exam which was very good. I will definitely call her again.

HalliknWolk
08-11-17, 15:18
Thanks for her digits Sky. I was able to meet up with her today. She is new to town and doesn't have her own place so no incall but she was open for car play. We found a quite place to park and just got the oral exam which was very good. I will definitely call her again.How many roses.

John HandCock
08-11-17, 16:53
Maybe where you live dude, from what I'm hearing from the girls I have ACTUALLY met, the guys in Atlanta are mostly full of shit, never want to meet, and only want the girls to send them pictures. Damn, I have a computer, Google, and a vivid imagination. The hell with paying for pictures, I mean who seriously does that?

Whatever the girls are "asking" cut it in half and start there. NEVER EVER give them money to meet you for a M&G drink or meal. If they ask for money before you meet they are violating the SA website rules. Use the report button accordingly.Yeah alot of guys have no intention of meeting, looking for nude pics and texting buddies and No never pay for someone to do a m / g. Now hitting the report button because they ask is pretty grade school. Should they hit the report button when a guys first message is How much for a blow job or do you take it up the ass? I would think that would be a violation of sa policy also. Most just block you and move on where if they reported you then I'm sure you would lose your membership for awhile. The report button is a joke so if asked for money just move on, nothing to get worked up about.

FlowBB
08-11-17, 17:51
How many roses.60 which I think is par for the course.

Vega Wrap
08-11-17, 18:06
Two drop dead gorgeous 20 yo SB looking for something tonight. Young, white, college cheerleader type.

She'll probably do doubles, but she really wants to bring her friend for a 3 way.

I was initially going for it, but I'm in Augusta, and the price is up there. Worth every penny, but up there.

I was about to go for it, but between balking at the price, waiting, and the time and distance, I kind of lost the desire. If they lived closer I would already be in it. She said something about really needing the college money or the usual, so I asked if I could pass her info on if I know anyone.

She offered me BBFS for her, CFS for her friend, facial, swallow ok. Asked about video, said it would cost extra.

Started the neg higher, but talked down to 600 $ each. Yes, EACH. See? Not cheap at all. That would be more than I ever paid up to now.

I was writing up a 3 way with 2 non pro 20 yo college hotties as a once a year treat I couldn't miss on. Still thinking I might if she doesn't get taken by tonight.

Interested, established seniors PM me for contact info an pics. She sent me pics of her friend and selfies from today. Only if you are SERIOUS please.

Not trying to fall for capt save a ho shit, but its kind of understood that she will toss me a little thank you act if I can get her set up tonight.

Cross posting in the Augusta board in case any takers want to drive.

Vega Wrap
08-11-17, 19:41
F it. Going to have to TOFTT on this one.

Will review later.


Two drop dead gorgeous 20 yo SB looking for something tonight. Young, white, college cheerleader type.

She'll probably do doubles, but she really wants to bring her friend for a 3 way.

I was initially going for it, but I'm in Augusta, and the price is up there. Worth every penny, but up there.

I was about to go for it, but between balking at the price, waiting, and the time and distance, I kind of lost the desire. If they lived closer I would already be in it. She said something about really needing the college money or the usual, so I asked if I could pass her info on if I know anyone.

She offered me BBFS for her, CFS for her friend, facial, swallow ok. Asked about video, said it would cost extra.

Started the neg higher, but talked down to 600 $ each. Yes, EACH. See? Not cheap at all. That would be more than I ever paid up to now.

I was writing up a 3 way with 2 non pro 20 yo college hotties as a once a year treat I couldn't miss on. Still thinking I might if she doesn't get taken by tonight.

Interested, established seniors PM me for contact info an pics. She sent me pics of her friend and selfies from today. Only if you are SERIOUS please.

Not trying to fall for capt save a ho shit, but its kind of understood that she will toss me a little thank you act if I can get her set up tonight.

Cross posting in the Augusta board in case any takers want to drive.

SkyHighBuilder
08-11-17, 20:33
Thanks for her digits Sky. I was able to meet up with her today. She is new to town and doesn't have her own place so no incall but she was open for car play. We found a quite place to park and just got the oral exam which was very good. I will definitely call her again.You are welcome! Ya need to see her in a room, WOWSER!

SkyHighBuilder
08-11-17, 21:05
Hey guys,

So as I thought these past few posts have created quite a storm of PM's for info, digits and other questions so I thought I could handle a bunch of them here and go back and plow through the PM's after.

{I saw a couple of post about hitting the "Report" button. I've never done it but had it happen to me a couple of times and had my acct locked out for a day or two. You have to say things in a way that clearly indicates what youa re looking for but you can't come right out and ask "Hey baby, how much for a blowjob" LOL. It will get your acct deleted and no money will be returned. This is a game of wills and I love the stalking as much as the catching. Once something is established I quickly move to texting (I use an app that keeps them out of my normal Messenger). This is for a couple of reasons. I want to move the conversation inot a more sexual area without the being blocked thing happening and I want to start a pic exchange that you can't do online. I can fill this in more later.

1st: I have pics of some but am too stupid to figure out how to put them up, LOL. Not all girls will allow them, as many of you know, even while having a session. And that goes double for SA girls. The ones I pick did not start out as pros and aren't the SW or BP / CL high volume types. They are sweet, Girl next Door types that are on hard times and have a commodity that they are willing to offer up under certain conditions. As with anything, those conditions vary but have some commonality. For the most part they are GFE, they are clean and fresh, they are generally in their 30's or close to it, they are one a day types (with some exceptions), they are very appreciative & they are playful.

2nd: I don't post a lot so if I put one up she is, in my opinion, tops! I'm willing to go up to $$ for an hour IF she proves to be that playful little kitten and proves that once we meet it will be a great time. So most of these that I put up are in that category. That's $-1/2 - $$ for an hour or so. I have never had one of these tell me my time was up. They don't even look at it at all. Many of my sessions go to 2 hrs for the one gift.

3rd: I am not really able to access this site at work. I can use my phone but the site is not optimized for mobile and it's a pain in the ass. If I get in the middle of sending one of you a pm relpy and someone walks in the site will reset and I'll have to repeat the whole login process and start the reply over so I'm tryint to get to everyone but it doesn't always work out that way.

4th: I don't like saying how much I gave a girl for a couple of reasons. I don't want to be seen in any way as pimping them. This NOT being like BP or others, situations can change for them daily and what I do may not be waht you do. I like longer sessions and tend to meet at their place if possible or I get a room. If I get a room I intend to see 2. One that day and one early the next morning before checkout time so I maximize my expenditure. And finally, because mine has been diligently negociated so I may be substantialy below what she is askig overall.

Finally: All of the ones I am putting up here are full on BB everything!!!

I will answer any questions but the general ones I'd rather be asked and answer in an open forum and not in a PM so I can respond to the whole.

Happy hunting guys!

ADMIN: can you guys make this a better mobile option?

Airmantroy
08-13-17, 14:12
F it. Going to have to TOFTT on this one.

Will review later.Why would you do that? Thats beyond pro rates, there are plenty of 20 yr old blondes on SA who'll see you with their girlfriends for $200 each for multiple hours. Hope you negotiated that rate down significantly.

Dastranger
08-13-17, 15:11
Anyone know how well SA fares in other cities? Could be a fun additional tool when you travel.

Vega Wrap
08-13-17, 17:03
Why would you do that? Thats beyond pro rates, there are plenty of 20 yr old blondes on SA who'll see you with their girlfriends for $200 each for multiple hours. Hope you negotiated that rate down significantly.These two were hotter than most. I still didn't do it though.

Arranged a deal with two other hot SBs for 450 for both, but had to bail at the last minute. Whole situation smelled. Got close to show time and felt like a switch, a set up a rob, or at least a BP quality pro pretending to be college utr.

Promised a lot. Refused to video chat. Insisted on using her place. Refused to meet me somewhere public first, or even meet me at the door. Took a cruise by the neighborhood and saw all kinds of lookout types loitering near the door.

Trusted my instincts and bailed.

Another one was an obvious pro pretending too. Selfie was less attractive than profile and some obvious gang tatts.

Vega Wrap
08-13-17, 17:06
Why would you do that? Thats beyond pro rates, there are plenty of 20 yr old blondes on SA who'll see you with their girlfriends for $200 each for multiple hours. Hope you negotiated that rate down significantly.Do you have contact for any such SB? Please PM if you are willing to share. I'm looking for 18-22. Thanks. Will return the favor for what I find.

SkyHighBuilder
08-14-17, 05:48
Anyone know how well SA fares in other cities? Could be a fun additional tool when you travel.Actually I do, I don't travel often but in a couple of weeks I'm going to Texas and on the way back I'm stopping over night at a casino. I've made connections with someone at me destination and in the town where the casino is. The casino babe is staying overnight for 200 and some casino play at the slots (which I get free)))). I use 50 mile radius from the city or zip I will be in and have found it to be just a reliable as here in a bigger metro area. The Casino is in a smaller town!

OnyxRain
08-14-17, 12:17
Hey Guys, I just re-joined SA and was wondering if you ignore the ones that have expectations in their profile higher than what you're willing to do. For instance, I'm only able to do Negotiable or Minimal. Does it make sense to look at the others like Moderate and Practical, etc? Or is it a waste of both my and the young lady's time?

I'm also curious as to how closely the ideals they espouse in their profiles correlate with what they'd actually be willing to accept.

2me4Looking2
08-14-17, 13:34
I'm considering giving SA another try and wanted to see if there are any specific recommendations?

I tried it in the past and had WAY more flakes than actual connections and it was VERY time consuming. I lost track of how many girls would setup a meet and then go complete radio silence and generally block me before I even got back home from the attempted meet. I also found it really hard to find someone that could host since paying for a meet and a room puts the expense higher than the price of a lot of well reviewed pros.

So my questions are:

What are you finding is your price range for a successful meet? Meaning, what is your low and high number for getting what you want?

Are you paying for a room or have you been able to find girls that can host?

How much time are you having to spend to actually find someone willing to meet?

How open are you in your profile that you are looking for Pay 2 play?

Thanks for the insight.

Airmantroy
08-14-17, 13:49
Hey Guys, I just re-joined SA and was wondering if you ignore the ones that have expectations in their profile higher than what you're willing to do. For instance, I'm only able to do Negotiable or Minimal. Does it make sense to look at the others like Moderate and Practical, etc? Or is it a waste of both my and the young lady's time?

I'm also curious as to how closely the ideals they espouse in their profiles correlate with what they'd actually be willing to accept.I ignore 99% of the "lifestyle expectation" crap. Those chicks have no clue what that means and just select something.

Some of them are pretty blunt and will basically say pay for play, obviously they can't use those exact words.


I'm considering giving SA another try and wanted to see if there are any specific recommendations?

I tried it in the past and had WAY more flakes than actual connections and it was VERY time consuming. I lost track of how many girls would setup a meet and then go complete radio silence and generally block me before I even got back home from the attempted meet. I also found it really hard to find someone that could host since paying for a meet and a room puts the expense higher than the price of a lot of well reviewed pros.

So my questions are:

What are you finding is your price range for a successful meet? Meaning, what is your low and high number for getting what you want?

Are you paying for a room or have you been able to find girls that can host?

How much time are you having to spend to actually find someone willing to meet?

How open are you in your profile that you are looking for Pay 2 play?

Thanks for the insight.Price ranges from a low of $150 up to a high of $400 per meet no clock, and generally no rules. You can't discuss specific acts via the chat feature, move them to text as quick as possible and try and coax a menu out of them without asking if they do greek or BBBJ, these girls usually have no idea what that means any way. Being discreet and respectful goes a long ways.

I have my own place and I'm single, however I have found several that can host, just ask after you chat with them or when you meet them in public.

This game is time consuming, to find that diamond you have to move a lot of dirt. I have had 1 or 2 that were willing to meet immediately, but it usually takes a day of time management to arrange everything.

Never put Pay for Play in your profile, use "friends with benefits" or "no strings attached" maybe mention "quality time" or intimate encounters. Never mention a specific amount of time EVER. Be vague. Several hours, a few times a month as schedules allow, something along those lines.

SkyHighBuilder
08-14-17, 14:47
Airman your post was spot on. Great advice!

I would add a couple of things to those just getting into SA:

First, you need to upgrade. You'll never get anywhere with these girls if they think you are too cheap to pay the price of admission there first. Plus, you can't read or respond to messages without a premium account.

It's a bit of a game so you need to be on the hunt. Don't fall for the 20 something bimbos contacting you. They are all full of crap and have GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome). Shoot in the late 20's and up.

You need to coax them out. You are both essentially looking for the same thing but these aren't BP hoes so they don't know the lingo and don't want to come right out and say they want $$ for sex. I've even gotten some for free on here with the right attitude but don't expect it. Most of these girls are BB types cause they are used to BF's or significant others in their lives so don't make a big deal out of it and it won't even come up. Some are real, sexually pent up wildcats! They've been in vanilla sex but want to come out of their shells. I've even had you tell me that she needed me to help her come out of her shell and experience the wilder stuff she craves but has never had anyone to get there with her. Many are internally submissive and want a strong hand, these you need to identify and play to that with strength but don't overplay your hand too early or it will backfire.

This is like CHESS, a game of skill! Have fun and hone your skills well for this one!

George GA
08-14-17, 20:45
Airman your post was spot on. Great advice!

Sky High: sent you another PM, but your box is full. Good info!

OnyxRain
08-14-17, 21:46
Thanks Bud. Appreciate the insight. I have a couple in play right now. One is very young and asked me outright "how much I'm trying to spend". I tried to avoid the question as I wasn't sure of the site rules but eventually wrote 1 0 0 roses. She obviously had no idea what I was talking about because she asked me again. A part of me felt relieved that she didn't know what I was talking about because it meant she might not be a pro. But, I found that to be a little too direct, as we exchanged all of 2-3 messages by that point.

I'll keep you guys posted.


I ignore 99% of the "lifestyle expectation" crap. Those chicks have no clue what that means and just select something.

Some of them are pretty blunt and will basically say pay for play, obviously they can't use those exact words.

Price ranges from a low of $150 up to a high of $400 per meet no clock, and generally no rules. You can't discuss specific acts via the chat feature, move them to text as quick as possible and try and coax a menu out of them without asking if they do greek or BBBJ, these girls usually have no idea what that means any way. Being discreet and respectful goes a long ways.

I have my own place and I'm single, however I have found several that can host, just ask after you chat with them or when you meet them in public.

This game is time consuming, to find that diamond you have to move a lot of dirt. I have had 1 or 2 that were willing to meet immediately, but it usually takes a day of time management to arrange everything.

Never put Pay for Play in your profile, use "friends with benefits" or "no strings attached" maybe mention "quality time" or intimate encounters. Never mention a specific amount of time EVER. Be vague. Several hours, a few times a month as schedules allow, something along those lines.

OnyxRain
08-14-17, 21:48
SkyHigh, I'm not implying at all that you work for them, so take this in jest. You deserve a commission from SA, as I'm sure your exploits have encouraged a lot of mongers to test or re-test the waters there.


Airman your post was spot on. Great advice!

I would add a couple of things to those just getting into SA:

First, you need to upgrade. You'll never get anywhere with these girls if they think you are too cheap to pay the price of admission there first. Plus, you can't read or respond to messages without a premium account.

It's a bit of a game so you need to be on the hunt. Don't fall for the 20 something bimbos contacting you. They are all full of crap and have GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome). Shoot in the late 20's and up.

You need to coax them out. You are both essentially looking for the same thing but these aren't BP hoes so they don't know the lingo and don't want to come right out and say they want $$ for sex. I've even gotten some for free on here with the right attitude but don't expect it. Most of these girls are BB types cause they are used to BF's or significant others in their lives so don't make a big deal out of it and it won't even come up. Some are real, sexually pent up wildcats! They've been in vanilla sex but want to come out of their shells. I've even had you tell me that she needed me to help her come out of her shell and experience the wilder stuff she craves but has never had anyone to get there with her. Many are internally submissive and want a strong hand, these you need to identify and play to that with strength but don't overplay your hand too early or it will backfire.

This is like CHESS, a game of skill! Have fun and hone your skills well for this one!.

SkyHighBuilder
08-15-17, 07:21
SkyHigh, I'm not implying at all that you work for them, so take this in jest. You deserve a commission from SA, as I'm sure your exploits have encouraged a lot of mongers to test or re-test the waters there.

.HAHAHA, Thanks for the acknowledgment Onyx, I'm having a blast with SA and the quality of the experience is way above any BP / CL chick. I love the thrill of the hunt and the perfection of the time spent with the ones I ultimately do go see. Many get weeded out during the "Courtship" period and that's the way I want it. I have a perfect scenario in mind for each experience and I have full control over that through this medium.

It's like the old days, me in my WING style haircut, polyester slacks, 3 button cuff puffy sleeve Rayon shirts, dancing to the BeeGee's and Steely Dan at the Mad Hatter on Wednesday nights for penny beer and 25 cent mixes drinks, talking shit to all the chicks and dragging some drunk hottie out of there to debauch her in her own place, wide my dick on her sheets and go home in the morning, LOL.

MoonshineXXX
08-15-17, 11:41
Ok. Took Sky's advice recently and joined up. Damn. Just damn.

I've found myself having to cull opportunities I would have otherwise been dreaming about.

I wrote a good profile and it's been the attention getter. I've been patient and chatty and respectful which is appealing.

So far, a nursery school teacher who sidelines as a limitless nympho and a McDonald's manager / slash student who calls herself my Queen.

Those are just the two I'VE selected.

I have 10 more on the stringer for later.

I wholeheartedly recommend.

Thank you SHB.

The Parrot
08-15-17, 12:29
Ok. Took Sky's advice recently and joined up. Damn. Just damn.

I've found myself having to cull opportunities I would have otherwise been dreaming about.

I wrote a good profile and it's been the attention getter. I've been patient and chatty and respectful which is appealing.

So far, a nursery school teacher who sidelines as a limitless nympho and a McDonald's manager / slash student who calls herself my Queen.

Those are just the two I'VE selected.

I have 10 more on the stringer for later.

I wholeheartedly recommend.

Thank you SHB.LOL, I may have to take the plunge. Everyone keeps racing about SA, I hope it is not overrated. I have to also consider my age and the fact that I'm a monger of color. Not sure I'll have the same success as you older gents.

Sgt Soros
08-15-17, 17:13
LOL, I may have to take the plunge. Everyone keeps racing about SA, I hope it is not overrated. I have to also consider my age and the fact that I'm a monger of color. Not sure I'll have the same success as you older gents.Why sell yourself short? Most of these SA ladies are no different "mentally" from the hood rats you have already encountered. Regardless of your age, if you have the right attitude, treat the ladies with respect, fork out the money they request, you should encounter zero problems picking up women on SA.

Allen981
08-15-17, 17:56
LOL, I may have to take the plunge. Everyone keeps racing about SA, I hope it is not overrated. I have to also consider my age and the fact that I'm a monger of color. Not sure I'll have the same success as you older gents.Sp far, a veterinary assistant, and 2 girls, together, who thought it'd be fun and needed some money. Both, A+.

Takes time, lots of messaging, and you'll have more women, real women, contacting you than you can handle.

SkyHighBuilder
08-15-17, 18:49
Ok. Took Sky's advice recently and joined up. Damn. Just damn.

I've found myself having to cull opportunities I would have otherwise been dreaming about.

I wrote a good profile and it's been the attention getter. I've been patient and chatty and respectful which is appealing.

So far, a nursery school teacher who sidelines as a limitless nympho and a McDonald's manager / slash student who calls herself my Queen.

Those are just the two I'VE selected.

I have 10 more on the stringer for later.

I wholeheartedly recommend.

Thank you SHB.HAHAHA, It has been a feast!

I've had an elementary school teacher (that is a total freak) a couple of times (Then she hooked up a 3 some for me with her and an IT manager {a full on BBJ contest between them and nothing more for 2 hrs, they snowballed the finish twice}), a couple of girls in retail, an UBER driver, a waitress / college student (another freak that only wants to suck d**k and gets off doing it) and several more.

You really do have to cull them out and refine it down to the ones that respond best to your likes and style but they are everywhere. We are even crossing over each other and these girls (when asked if they would like some help finding clients) actually say yes. They are all looking for an outlet for their sexual frustrations. And a little financial assistance along the way. I've never given more than 200 and always got way more than my monies worth. Most are 100 for an hour of so.

They call me daddy, sir, boss. Most of them have deep seated submissive needs and if you handle them right they are yours to do with what you will. They are GFE, BBFS BBBJCIMWS, Greek lovers and everything else.

BUT, you need to handle them easily in the begging and move the conversation along and out of the mundane as quickly as possible, get a text app that is secure and move them to texting quickly. You CANNOT have this level of conversation on the site or you will get rejected and loose your account.

Now that some of you are starting to see results you know that what I've been saying since January is true. And why I'm off the BP / CL robbery, being cheated out of time, scams of all types BS!

This is my playground now.

Vega Wrap
08-15-17, 23:14
Has anyone had sensualkitty97 ?

They want a crazy allowance but they look TGTBT. Claiming to be 20 year old models. Some of these girls don't look enough like their pics when you meet them. This one seems legit enough.

Anyone have a review?

StrockInBizkit
08-16-17, 00:00
What kind of rates are y'all pulling with your SBs?

2me4Looking2
08-17-17, 09:53
I signed up this week and I'm finding fairly high rates. Everyone wants an ongoing thing and they want you to get a room. The hunt is kind of fun, but I can't meet weekly and I can't fork over $300 for her plus the cost of a room. Even $200 plus a room is more than I'm willing to spend so maybe I'm just too cheap for that site?

Are you guys paying for a room and giving her a big chunk?

I've found one that has said she would host for $150, but she deactivated her account as soon as we started chatting on text and she refused to say what she wanted and she made it obvious that it would be illegal for her to mention sex and money. That of course puts me on the hook legally since I'm the one that offers her a rate. Everything else about her sounds great, but something about her deactivating her account and being so cautious about the legal stuff has me a little spooked.

One other question, are you meeting in public first or going straight to business. For some reason it seems fine to meet a pro at their place, but meeting one of these girls makes me nervous. More so for safety than legal.

DRickGiver5
08-17-17, 10:47
The lowest I've talked one down to is 150 but still had to pay for room. Most try to get you for 300. Just have to negotiate and see what happens.

JustMikey
08-17-17, 13:19
HAHAHA, It has been a feast!

I've had an elementary school teacher (that is a total freak) a couple of times (Then she hooked up a 3 some for me with her and an IT manager {a full on BBJ contest between them and nothing more for 2 hrs, they snowballed the finish twice}), a couple of girls in retail, an UBER driver, a waitress / college student (another freak that only wants to suck d**k and gets off doing it) and several more.

You really do have to cull them out and refine it down to the ones that respond best to your likes and style but they are everywhere. We are even crossing over each other and these girls (when asked if they would like some help finding clients) actually say yes. They are all looking for an outlet for their sexual frustrations. And a little financial assistance along the way. I've never given more than 200 and always got way more than my monies worth. Most are 100 for an hour of so.

They call me daddy, sir, boss. Most of them have deep seated submissive needs and if you handle them right they are yours to do with what you will. They are GFE, BBFS BBBJCIMWS, Greek lovers and everything else.

BUT, you need to handle them easily in the begging and move the conversation along and out of the mundane as quickly as possible, get a text app that is secure and move them to texting quickly. You CANNOT have this level of conversation on the site or you will get rejected and loose your account.

Now that some of you are starting to see results you know that what I've been saying since January is true. And why I'm off the BP / CL robbery, being cheated out of time, scams of all types BS!

This is my playground now.A 2 hour BBBJ contest. I need to experience these two women. !

The Parrot
08-17-17, 14:03
The lowest I've talked one down to is 150 but still had to pay for room. Most try to get you for 300. Just have to negotiate and see what happens.300 is beyond ridiculous, especially if you are not a pornstar or a celebrity of some sort. Just as I thought, this SA site has led regular women to be entitled to more than they're worth. No woman on that site is worth 300, and I haven't even visited the site.

If they are asking 300+, then the site is definitely overrated (which I suspected).

Airmantroy
08-17-17, 15:42
What kind of rates are y'all pulling with your SBs?


I signed up this week and I'm finding fairly high rates. Everyone wants an ongoing thing and they want you to get a room. The hunt is kind of fun, but I can't meet weekly and I can't fork over $300 for her plus the cost of a room. Even $200 plus a room is more than I'm willing to spend so maybe I'm just too cheap for that site?

Are you guys paying for a room and giving her a big chunk?

I've found one that has said she would host for $150, but she deactivated her account as soon as we started chatting on text and she refused to say what she wanted and she made it obvious that it would be illegal for her to mention sex and money. That of course puts me on the hook legally since I'm the one that offers her a rate. Everything else about her sounds great, but something about her deactivating her account and being so cautious about the legal stuff has me a little spooked.

One other question, are you meeting in public first or going straight to business. For some reason it seems fine to meet a pro at their place, but meeting one of these girls makes me nervous. More so for safety than legal.


The lowest I've talked one down to is 150 but still had to pay for room. Most try to get you for 300. Just have to negotiate and see what happens.So here's the deal on rates. They are all over the place. I've had them from $50 and a fast food dinner all the way up to $400 per visit. It all depends on the how hot she is and how many swinging dicks have promised them the moon and stars. I have not been with anything under a 7 in looks except one chick who started getting strung out on H and her looks went down hill fast. I kinda miss her too, she was pretty reliable and cheap. The $400 chicks were a 8-10 but a couple of them (Russians) were slightly BSC.

I'm single, I don't have to get a room. I have 2 or 3 that can host and they are happy to do so. But don't hesitate to bring up that added expense when negotiating rates.

I have it in my profile that I prefer to meet in public first, this serves 2 purposes. 1st it shows I'm not some creep looking to abduct them. 2nd, it provides me with a chance to see if they look as good as their pictures and if I can deal with any discrepancies.

SkyHighBuilder
08-17-17, 19:25
Wow, 2 ME. That's MONGERING 101 dude. Never put yourself on a public system offering money. Shit man!

Let me thank Airman for giving you guys the straight skinny on this site and how to work it. He is spot on and since I run a business and can't access this site during the day except on my phone and I can't give a comprehensive statement on there what with all that's going on he gets to you guys quicker and is 100% accurate in his observations.

I will add that I delay the money talk as long a I can unless I feel she is good to go. I want to control every aspect of this even down to the smallest detail. I'll talk money when I'm ready and if one gets off the hook early fuck it! There are plenty more waiting. Normally I move them to texting very quickly to get into more intimate conversations that I don't want to have on there. I don't need anyone knocking on my door talking about pandering, LOL. That' never going to happen but what will happen is that they will revoke your account and you will not get back on AND they KEEP your money!

Now, I've had everything from FREE (YEAH, they like their daddy) to 300 for a romping 2 fer and time was never an issue. If I even talk about time it's always in the abstract. Why would I lock myself into an hour when I could have 2 or more for the same money? I've had from the lower 20's to the upper 40's (guys, I'm out of the lower 20's. They have been my worst experiences and have GPS big time) but the mid-late 20's and up have been my sweet spot. I'm totally into submission and the quicker I can get them to their submissive nature the better. I ask them if they care to exchange pics, send a couple of "G" rated ones sand then ask if they want to be a bit more "daring" with them. This works 95% of the time and especially if you've put in the work to get there. This all happens within 20 texts, plus or minus.

I almost never reply to the ones that contact me out of the blue. They tend to be gold diggers. The ones with the airbrushed fancy pics, leave them alone too, same thing IF they are real at all. Don't be a simp and be taken in by one of them. There are some pretty sophisticated scams going on out there and I don't want to read about one of you getting hit by one. Most of them are professionals and even men that just play you on for the money. They will send pics for verification too so don't fall for it.

That's it for SA 101 today fellas.

Have fun,

SKY.

Airmantroy
08-17-17, 20:23
Aight guys, Sky has revived this thread with his exploits. I'm going to give you a little lesson in SA.

1. This is NOT like BP or Craigslist. Do not approach these girls with that mindset, it won't fly with the good ones.

2. If you can't bring yourself to pay $80 a month, stop reading now, stick to the $40 QV BP chicks and getting all the bullshit they bring to the table.

3. Read #2 again.

4. You have to have some "game" to succeed, imagine you are back in your pre-marriage days and turn on the smooth.

5. You need a good profile and "about me" don't try and bullshit how much you make, don't try and blow smoke up their ass about how much you can do for them, they will figure it out eventually anyway.

6. Pictures. Ahhhhh the dreaded Do I or Don't I put up pictures. That's a personal choice depending on your situation.

7. Things you can say that get you banned in a hurry: directly saying anything about sex for money, specific acts for money, amounts of time for sex.

I'll continue to update you guys as questions get asked.

PeteAppleSeed
08-17-17, 20:49
I agree, mostly wit #2 & #4. If the membership is too much the "rates" inside will make you mad.

And it's not pay to play, you actually have to court them into the relationship.

If you can fork over $$$ and just want to get serviced your way, I'd say stick to the agency girls.


Aight guys, Sky has revived this thread with his exploits. I'm going to give you a little lesson in SA.

1. This is NOT like BP or Craigslist. Do not approach these girls with that mindset, it won't fly with the good ones.

2. If you can't bring yourself to pay $80 a month, stop reading now, stick to the $40 QV BP chicks and getting all the bullshit they bring to the table.

3. Read #2 again.

4. You have to have some "game" to succeed, imagine you are back in your pre-marriage days and turn on the smooth.

5. You need a good profile and "about me" don't try and bullshit how much you make, don't try and blow smoke up their ass about how much you can do for them, they will figure it out eventually anyway.

6. Pictures. Ahhhhh the dreaded Do I or Don't I put up pictures. That's a personal choice depending on your situation.

7. Things you can say that get you banned in a hurry: directly saying anything about sex for money, specific acts for money, amounts of time for sex.

I'll continue to update you guys as questions get asked.

SkyHighBuilder
08-17-17, 21:01
I agree, mostly wit #2 & #4. If the membership is too much the "rates" inside will make you mad.

And it's not pay to play, you actually have to court them into the relationship.

If you can fork over $$$ and just want to get serviced your way, I'd say stick to the agency girls."If you can fork over $$$ and just want to get serviced your way" You can have both on SA but you have to play your cards right!

Many of these women have an internal freak center that NO ONE has ever brought out of them but it's in there WANTING to come out! I can't tell you how many of them have expressed things in confidence to me that you would never have thought seeing them in Wal-Mart LOL. Like Airman said so well, you need to put on your smooth.

Here's one for you old dogs: Remember those Wednesday nights at the Mad Hatter in Underground? Penny beer and 25 cent mixed drinks? Like it was yesterday! There I was in my perfect WING haircut, polyester slacks, 3 button cuff shiny rayon shirts and dancing my ass off. I used to pull the chicks like crazy, LOL. Thought I had lost all of that until I found SA. Through the medium of chat and text and printed profiles I can once again be THAT guy. I thought for so long that THOSE were the days and yet here they are again. "Money for nothing and your chicks for free" well, not quite like that but you get my point.

I'm over 60 and IF I can get it like this then you should be able to too.

Airmantroy
08-17-17, 21:50
If you just want to drop $300 with little effort and be the 4th guy of the day, go for it. Agency or indy.

So on with the class. LOL.

8. You are going to have to spend a lot of time sending out messages, and by that I mean more than just "Hi sexy". Write a few words, mention anything they have in their profile that lets them know you actually read it.

9. Move them to text as quick as possible so you can do a little background checking on them via Google, Facebook, Instagram. Some are smart enough to use a text app, most aren't. And they love taking selfies.

10. What to offer, how to discuss how much they want. I try and get them to throw out a number first, it's referred to on SA as "allowance", never call it a donation, fee, or anything that sounds hookerish. If they insist on you making the first offer, always go for a range you are comfortable with given her looks I. E. $100-300 each time we meet, maybe 2-4 times a month depending on our schedules and chemistry. This will do 2 things, it will ward off the GPS girls who want the private jet, yacht, and rolex. It lets them know they can counter at UP TO $300 (if she looks good enough) occasionally I will even drop it down to $200 if I have plenty of other hotter girls on the line. IF she comes at you with a number such as $600 per meet, ALWAYS cut that in half, and even down to $200-250 if she isn't a solid 9.

11. Always offer to meet in public first, it can be as cheap as a cup of coffee at Starbuck's or as nice as a dinner at STK, it's your dime spend it wisely. You are interviewing her to fuck you, not chew food at your expense.

12. NEVER EVER EVER pay them anything just to meet you, you're a fool if you do and we all know what they say about fools and money.

13. NEVER EVER EVER send them money for pictures, jeez don't you have Google and a vivid imagination?

14. The girls who message you first are desperate or trying to 1 up the competition, use caution when responding, it could be a setup for a scam.

15. NEVER discuss this site with any of them under any circumstances, it will not gain you favor with them.

16. This a big one, especially given how we like to share info. IF YOU HAVE A GIRL SCAM YOU, NO SHOW YOU, OR ROB YOU. REPORT IT TO SA. And before you block her on there, copy the link to her profile and post it here as a warning to everyone, you are allowed to do that here. Likewise, if you have a girl who is cool, and you don't mind sharing, post a link to her profile and share some insight to what kind of rate you gave, it prevents them from getting GPS.

MoonshineXXX
08-17-17, 22:04
All. Follow the advice of Troy and Sky. To the letter.

BP = Checkers.

SA / SB = Chess.

Which do you want to play?

I was quickly able to line up the following:

33 year old pre-school teacher; 7+ looks /9+ performance. No Allowance Requested.

20 year old student / office worker; 7 looks /8 performance. No Allowance Requested.

23 year old student / fast food manager; 8 looks /9 performance - $100 per trip.

More waiting in the wings.

Best thing EVER! Where was this MF when I was 21?


I signed up this week and I'm finding fairly high rates. Everyone wants an ongoing thing and they want you to get a room. The hunt is kind of fun, but I can't meet weekly and I can't fork over $300 for her plus the cost of a room. Even $200 plus a room is more than I'm willing to spend so maybe I'm just too cheap for that site?

Are you guys paying for a room and giving her a big chunk?

I've found one that has said she would host for $150, but she deactivated her account as soon as we started chatting on text and she refused to say what she wanted and she made it obvious that it would be illegal for her to mention sex and money. That of course puts me on the hook legally since I'm the one that offers her a rate. Everything else about her sounds great, but something about her deactivating her account and being so cautious about the legal stuff has me a little spooked.

One other question, are you meeting in public first or going straight to business. For some reason it seems fine to meet a pro at their place, but meeting one of these girls makes me nervous. More so for safety than legal.

Zipper34
08-18-17, 00:55
So are there any free ones that can be passed my way? LOL.

NewAnonymousName
08-18-17, 07:43
Are any of you guys working the SA angle married? What are the strategies for communicating with the prospects, reeling them in, and then meeting them while still remaining anonymous? That's my one concern. I'm not even worried about STDs (the treatable ones, that is) given that my marriage has been sexless for a decade. But I am worried about being limited to seeing my kids only every other weekend if I wind up getting busted and divorced.

John HandCock
08-18-17, 07:57
Are any of you guys working the SA angle married? What are the strategies for communicating with the prospects, reeling them in, and then meeting them while still remaining anonymous? That's my one concern. I'm not even worried about STDs (the treatable ones, that is) given that my marriage has been sexless for a decade. But I am worried about being limited to seeing my kids only every other weekend if I wind up getting busted and divorced.If your a monger the risk is the same on sa as whatever your doung now. Check out the Richmond Va sd / sb thread. It has thousands of pages on secret squirrel shit but the risk is the same.

SkyHighBuilder
08-18-17, 08:01
Are any of you guys working the SA angle married? What are the strategies for communicating with the prospects, reeling them in, and then meeting them while still remaining anonymous? That's my one concern. I'm not even worried about STDs (the treatable ones, that is) given that my marriage has been sexless for a decade. But I am worried about being limited to seeing my kids only every other weekend if I wind up getting busted and divorced.So many of us are in your shoes. I use a secure text app (many use burner phones. Cheap, little ones without any features that you can hide and use exclusively for this). I've not had a whisper of trouble from anyone and don't expect any. These are not BP / CL girls that are always running an angle.

NewAnonymousName
08-18-17, 08:41
So many of us are in your shoes. I use a secure text app (many use burner phones. Cheap, little ones without any features that you can hide and use exclusively for this). I've not had a whisper of trouble from anyone and don't expect any. These are not BP / CL girls that are always running an angle.Is it accurate to conclude from your post that the gals (at least enough of them) aren't insisting on your name, job info, etc. , so they can confirm who you are?

SkyHighBuilder
08-18-17, 09:01
Is it accurate to conclude from your post that the gals (at least enough of them) aren't insisting on your name, job info, etc. , so they can confirm who you are?I've never encountered anything like that!

Airmantroy
08-18-17, 09:42
I've never encountered anything like that!I have never once had a girl do any kind of research on me. Meeting in a public space is as far as it goes for 99.9% of them. There are pros on there and I'm kinda curious if they do any background checks.

Wineman2
08-18-17, 09:47
I've never encountered anything like that!Your mb is full sir.

John HandCock
08-18-17, 10:09
If you just want to drop $300 with little effort and be the 4th guy of the day, go for it. Agency or indy.

So on with the class. LOL.

8. You are going to have to spend a lot of time sending out messages, and by that I mean more than just "Hi sexy". Write a few words, mention anything they have in their profile that lets them know you actually read it.

9. Move them to text as quick as possible so you can do a little background checking on them via Google, Facebook, Instagram. Some are smart enough to use a text app, most aren't. And they love taking selfies.

10. What to offer, how to discuss how much they want. I try and get them to throw out a number first, it's referred to on SA as "allowance", never call it a donation, fee, or anything that sounds hookerish. If they insist on you making the first offer, always go for a range you are comfortable with given her looks I. E. $100-300 each time we meet, maybe 2-4 times a month depending on our schedules and chemistry. This will do 2 things, it will ward off the GPS girls who want the private jet, yacht, and rolex. It lets them know they can counter at UP TO $300 (if she looks good enough) occasionally I will even drop it down to $200 if I have plenty of other hotter girls on the line. IF she comes at you with a number such as $600 per meet, ALWAYS cut that in half, and even down to $200-250 if she isn't a solid 9..Most of these are pretty solid do's. The reporting for no show is pretty weak. Thi gs happen in life so I give one 2 chances and if she cancells twice or just no show I move on. Reporting if anything they cancel her membership and she has a new one up in 10 minutes. The negotiations I leave to them. If one is out of my range I thank her and move. Lots of swers, on. If she decides to counter offer then we have a conversation. Your supposed to be sd's so trying to haggle over a few bucks tells them your pretty fake. Not sure what your posting as your income but if its above 100 k and your trying to negotiate over 100 bucks different that's a red flag. Some girls actually look at that and call you out on it. GPS is just a guys term for a girl who won't fuck him for his price. I never discuss arrangement till the end of a m / g. If your doing this online before ever meeting or just by texting you have an utr or pro. Lots of swers, CL, utr and pros have migrated to SA. You also have pro sbs you won't find anywhere else running rotations like mongers do. Now everyone has a different definition of a sb but mine is a true sb only has one sd at a time. Wants a long ltr and when she finds one her profile disappears.

CallMeTom
08-18-17, 11:23
If you just want to drop $300 with little effort and be the 4th guy of the day, go for it. Agency or indy.

So on with the class. LOL.

8. You are going to have to spend a lot of time sending out messages, and by that I mean more than just "Hi sexy". Write a few words, mention anything they have in their profile that lets them know you actually read it.

9. Move them to text as quick as possible so you can do a little background checking on them via Google, Facebook, Instagram. Some are smart enough to use a text app, most aren't. And they love taking selfies.

10. What to offer, how to discuss how much they want. I try and get them to throw out a number first, it's referred to on SA as "allowance", never call it a donation, fee, or anything that sounds hookerish. If they insist on you making the first offer, always go for a range you are comfortable with given her looks I. E. $100-300 each time we meet, maybe 2-4 times a month depending on our schedules and chemistry. This will do 2 things, it will ward off the GPS girls who want the private jet, yacht, and rolex. It lets them know they can counter at UP TO $300 (if she looks good enough) occasionally I will even drop it down to $200 if I have plenty of other hotter girls on the line. IF she comes at you with a number such as $600 per meet, ALWAYS cut that in half, and even down to $200-250 if she isn't a solid 9..Anybody have good luck on SA who is a younger dude, like in their 30's or 40's? I could see the women more drawn to the older guys thinking they can provide a higher allowance, but younger guys with a good bank roll. Any success?

TravelinSD
08-18-17, 15:13
SA is a VERY diverse group of people looking for VERY diverse things. You may have to hunt for it, but pretty much whatever you want is on there somewhere. The problem is you may have to hunt for a long time and go through a bunch of duds.

For guys in their 30's you'll be VERY popular. You have cash + they would view you as actual BF material. Again, these are not all gold diggers looking for cars, jewels, etc. Don't get me wrong, some are, but most are really just looking for basic help with bills or maybe an allowance. Probably over half of those are looking for an unreasonable amount, but if you can afford 700-1500 a month, you're golden. Especially if you're in your 30's.

Guys in their 40's to early 50's are in the sugar baby sweet spot. SBs view them as being established enough to take care of them, but young enough to be viewed as still sexually desirable. I wish this site had been around when I was in my 40's. I'd be in heaven.

Once you hit mid 50's up into your 60's the pool of SBs that actually find you attractive falls off rapidly. You'll find plenty to have sex with you, but it will be mostly for the assistance. The advantage we older guys do have though is sexual experience. For most of the 20's SBs you're with, you will be the best sex they've ever had. That helps and counts for something. Then there is the smaller percentage, but not really rare group of SBs that are truly attracted to older guys. Be it for experience, wisdom, mentoring or maturity there are a pool of SBs that actually enjoy and want to spend time with you. The search is harder, but wonderful when you find it.

Good Hunting,

Travelin.


Anybody have good luck on SA who is a younger dude, like in their 30's or 40's? I could see the women more drawn to the older guys thinking they can provide a higher allowance, but younger guys with a good bank roll. Any success?

Airmantroy
08-18-17, 18:44
Most of these are pretty solid do's. The reporting for no show is pretty weak. Thi gs happen in life so I give one 2 chances and if she cancells twice or just no show I move on. Reporting if anything they cancel her membership and she has a new one up in 10 minutes. The negotiations I leave to them. If one is out of my range I thank her and move. Lots of swers, on. If she decides to counter offer then we have a conversation. Your supposed to be sd's so trying to haggle over a few bucks tells them your pretty fake. Not sure what your posting as your income but if its above 100 k and your trying to negotiate over 100 bucks different that's a red flag. Some girls actually look at that and call you out on it. GPS is just a guys term for a girl who won't fuck him for his price. I never discuss arrangement till the end of a m / g. If your doing this online before ever meeting or just by texting you have an utr or pro. Lots of swers, CL, utr and pros have migrated to SA. You also have pro sbs you won't find anywhere else running rotations like mongers do. Now everyone has a different definition of a sb but mine is a true sb only has one sd at a time. Wants a long ltr and when she finds one her profile disappears.I won't report them simply for no show, I would if they attempted any type of scam or pay BEFORE meet. I have my income set at 100 K which is pretty accurate. Negotiating for $100 is not being cheap, it's called maximizing my investment. GPS is a 2 type scenario, the girl who is a 7 thinks she's a 10 because somebody told her she was gorgeous and sets her rates extremely high because of it OR the girl who knows she's hot as fuck and thinks her pussy has magical powers, so she sets her price high and takes only those who are willing to pay that ridiculous amount.

I agree there are plenty of pro SB's on there that do nothing other than run a rotation, just like a touring provider does. I know, I see one all the time and it's pretty damn fun. I also agree that the true definition of a SB has been re-defined as the girls are figuring out they can get an almost unlimited supply of dick, trips, and gifts simply by seeing more than one guy. Some are very very selective in who they will see, those profiles are pretty obvious from the ones who are basically pay for play girls that want to be kept women.

Vega Wrap
08-18-17, 22:25
Worth it. I would never pay this most of the time, but for the amount of time spent their price was right at agency prices.

One girl was an 8 face 9 body. The other was a 10/10. Both young, pretty (one of them model pretty) very eager to please.

Nothing like a service. Very GFE and PSE. Like a hotel party with the prom queen and her best friend and they're in a freshman year college slutty phase.

BBBJ, BBFS, CIM, COF, MSOG, with video.

The Parrot
08-19-17, 06:17
Most of these are pretty solid do's. The reporting for no show is pretty weak. Thi gs happen in life so I give one 2 chances and if she cancells twice or just no show I move on. Reporting if anything they cancel her membership and she has a new one up in 10 minutes. The negotiations I leave to them. If one is out of my range I thank her and move. Lots of swers, on. If she decides to counter offer then we have a conversation. Your supposed to be sd's so trying to haggle over a few bucks tells them your pretty fake. Not sure what your posting as your income but if its above 100 k and your trying to negotiate over 100 bucks different that's a red flag. Some girls actually look at that and call you out on it. GPS is just a guys term for a girl who won't fuck him for his price. I never discuss arrangement till the end of a m / g. If your doing this online before ever meeting or just by texting you have an utr or pro. Lots of swers, CL, utr and pros have migrated to SA. You also have pro sbs you won't find anywhere else running rotations like mongers do. Now everyone has a different definition of a sb but mine is a true sb only has one sd at a time. Wants a long ltr and when she finds one her profile disappears.There are definitely women who overrated and overprice themselves. They have GPS, it is real.

SkyHighBuilder
08-19-17, 07:04
Anybody have good luck on SA who is a younger dude, like in their 30's or 40's? I could see the women more drawn to the older guys thinking they can provide a higher allowance, but younger guys with a good bank roll. Any success?Tom, I chat with girls all the time that are looking for younger guys than me. No harm, no foul I say and move on. I also don't have a huge bankroll and certainly don't brag about having one. Most of the girls I send messages to never even look at my profile (you can tell this by your "Interests" category. Almost all respond to the message I drop on them and I often have to tell them to refer to my profile for some info they are requesting. Like I said in an earlier post, I almost NEVER reply to a girl that contacts me first. I've found them to be, for the most part, either out of state or country, VERY young and seeming GOLD DIGGERS or just not my type. I like to search who's online and only go back a couple of hours since they left and hit the ones I have an interest in. If they reply to my message it usually comes to a meeting and F**King.

Go get me.

SKY.

GA400
08-19-17, 12:45
I was talking with one of the ladies and SA and she was asking a TON of questions. Do you live alone? Where are you right now? What do you do? Now this girl is drop dead gorgeous, and I began to think why is she asking all these questions. Then it hit me that she may be running a scam to find out where I live and if anyone was home in order to rob me without being noticed. Has anyone else experienced this? What are your thoughts?

The Parrot
08-19-17, 12:49
Tom, I chat with girls all the time that are looking for younger guys than me. No harm, no foul I say and move on. I also don't have a huge bankroll and certainly don't brag about having one. Most of the girls I send messages to never even look at my profile (you can tell this by your "Interests" category. Almost all respond to the message I drop on them and I often have to tell them to refer to my profile for some info they are requesting. Like I said in an earlier post, I almost NEVER reply to a girl that contacts me first. I've found them to be, for the most part, either out of state or country, VERY young and seeming GOLD DIGGERS or just not my type. I like to search who's online and only go back a couple of hours since they left and hit the ones I have an interest in. If they reply to my message it usually comes to a meeting and F**King.

Go get me.

SKY.That makes no sense, any woman who says that is stupid and doesn't really want to make sure lot of cash.

A provider should be interested in the donation and no drama. Why would they turn down old men who tend to be more docile, wealthy and have lower sex drives.

An old man should be a very easy client. I guess some girls are just dumb or shallow.

I'm really surprised to hear women NOT wanting older men. That is foreign to me.

SkyHighBuilder
08-19-17, 20:38
That makes no sense, any woman who says that is stupid and doesn't really want to make sure lot of cash.

A provider should be interested in the donation and no drama. Why would they turn down old men who tend to be more docile, wealthy and have lower sex drives.

An old man should be a very easy client. I guess some girls are just dumb or shallow.

I'm really surprised to hear women NOT wanting older men. That is foreign to me.Parrot, it was a total shock to me the first time one said (Ewwww, I'm not into FUCKING my grandpa). And I heard similar things several times. It doesn't bother me I just move on. Too many fish to even get to or afford. But it does boggle the mind. I guess that's why they have 33 flavors of icecream, LOL.

LazaroRosales
08-20-17, 02:30
This is my story: I started using BP and these type of forums a couple of years ago with different degrees of success. So I don't consider myself and experienced monger yet. I have been way more active in the international forum due to my job requiring me to travel to other countries. My job changed and I don't travel abroad anymore, so I started looking for providers here. I started getting frustrated and disappointed with the overall quality of BP, until one of the senior members started talking about SA. All I have to say is thank you, and that I had no idea a site like this existed.

I joined SA about a three weeks ago and so far it's been a wonderful experience. I'm 30 years old (look 25), fit, and married. I still travel domestically, and due to my younger appearance, I've been successful using Tinder whenever I'm not home. Tinder is great, but requires insane amounts of work just to find someone that you may or may not get lucky with. But when you do, it's free and without limits. Take Tinder and merge it with BP and what you get is SA. The best of both worlds!

Due to my age, I was afraid I wasn't going to be taken seriously on SA. It's been quite the opposite. I have so many phone numbers that I can't keep track of them. I would go bankrupt before I meet up with all the girls that are willing to meet with me. My relentless efforts of trying get free pussy off of Tinder have armed me with so many useful tools on how to approach girls and persuade then into meeting me. My first actual experience didn't go all that well, it was with this 25 yo, she was maybe a 7 and we met up to have dinner and see how we connected (I chose a place really far from my house). Things didn't go far with her, she wanted to have something more serious and wanted to go on multiple dates before we ever did anything. It was my fault, I then realized I should've been upfront regarding my expectations when we were texting so that my time would not be wasted. Learn and move on.

The next day, I met up with this curvy, not quite BBW, 19 yo. This time I had learned from my previous mistake and was upfront about my expectations without being too explicit, and she was OK with everything; we even discussed the terms of the arrangement. After meeting her and realizing that she was what I had imagined, I booked a hotel and spent the next 3 hours doing everything my imagination allowed. GFE, DFK, MSOG, everything was on the table, including bare (I personally don't do bare but she was OK with it) and Greek as well. And she was a squirter too! After that, we said our goodbyes (I desperately needed a Gatorade) and agreed that next time she would be able to host and that her roommate could potentially join. Holly fuck! It was a great find!

I will post about my third experience in a different post, there are tons of details I would like to share. All I can say is that it was better than the one before! I want to thank the senior members that brought this site to my attention and the advice of many that have tried it as well. Happy hunting!

JustMikey
08-20-17, 08:25
Parrot, it was a total shock to me the first time one said (Ewwww, I'm not into FUCKING my grandpa). And I heard similar things several times. It doesn't bother me I just move on. Too many fish to even get to or afford. But it does boggle the mind. I guess that's why they have 33 flavors of icecream, LOL.I tend avoid under 24 and over 44 so I guess it's fair if they have a preference. Doesn't matter anyway, because if I won the lottery tomorrow I still couldn't fuck all of them. Not enough hours in day.

Mikey.

Airmantroy
08-20-17, 09:19
I was talking with one of the ladies and SA and she was asking a TON of questions. Do you live alone? Where are you right now? What do you do? Now this girl is drop dead gorgeous, and I began to think why is she asking all these questions. Then it hit me that she may be running a scam to find out where I live and if anyone was home in order to rob me without being noticed. Has anyone else experienced this? What are your thoughts?So here is how I handle that. I live alone, except for my 2 cute pups, I'm sitting at my dinner table just outside of Buckhead in Sandy Springs, I own an equipment manufacturing company and a custom woodwork company.

Dude, Are you running a scam to come rob me? I just answered all of those questions.


That makes no sense, any woman who says that is stupid and doesn't really want to make sure lot of cash.

A provider should be interested in the donation and no drama. Why would they turn down old men who tend to be more docile, wealthy and have lower sex drives.

An old man should be a very easy client. I guess some girls are just dumb or shallow.

I'm really surprised to hear women NOT wanting older men. That is foreign to me.Parrot, First off they aren't providers. Providers will see 99.9% of anyone who shows up at their door. You have the BP mentality still turned on, you can't approach these chicks that way, it won't work.

I have been told 3 times that the chick wasn't interested because of my age (49 going on 50). I thank them, wish them luck and tell them when they get tired of fuckboys, let me know.

GA400
08-20-17, 18:04
Her SA handle is "Promise patients" She has a TER I'd (324307) under the handle Payton and her reviews are not very good. I did not see her personally so I guess YMMV from the reviews. I got a bad vibe when dealing with her, switched her offline to text and that's when I learned the true story.

Allen981
08-20-17, 20:38
I'm older, early 60's, and it's a damn fine thing to go SA and get replies. Serious replies. From girls who aren't from BP.

2 weeks on, had a threesome with 2 incredible girls / mid-20's, and have a 25 y/o lined up for Tuesday. I've already done a live chat (just for fun) with her and she's the real deal. Have a 50 y/o in the wings.

Cautions: 1) there's time and work involved. You have to stay with it, not 24/7, but pay attention. 2) Pricing is a bit higher. Be prepared to pay more for the first time out. But think of what you're getting; not some drug-addicted street * but most likely a person with a real life. 3) Be careful of scams. They'll hit you up in numerous ways; 'by me a pizza' means let me steal your CC number. 4) Lastly, recognize that you likely won't go online and hook up that afternoon. Be patient, and the rewards likely will be significant.

Have fun.

Niteluvr
08-20-17, 21:08
I'm older, early 60's, and it's a damn fine thing to go SA and get replies. Serious replies. From girls who aren't from BP.

2 weeks on, had a threesome with 2 incredible girls / mid-20's, and have a 25 y/o lined up for Tuesday. I've already done a live chat (just for fun) with her and she's the real deal. Have a 50 y/o in the wings.

Cautions: 1) there's time and work involved. You have to stay with it, not 24/7, but pay attention. 2) Pricing is a bit higher. Be prepared to pay more for the first time out. But think of what you're getting; not some drug-addicted street * but most likely a person with a real life. 3) Be careful of scams. They'll hit you up in numerous ways; 'by me a pizza' means let me steal your CC number. 4) Lastly, recognize that you likely won't go online and hook up that afternoon. Be patient, and the rewards likely will be significant.

Have fun.Interesting and I guessed as much. At least a guy is going to have to spend some quality time with SA to weed through scammers, set up dates, etc. Wish I had the time as it sounds like a nice, upscale alternative to BP.

Novalimber2
08-20-17, 21:46
Her SA handle is "Promise patients" She has a TER I'd (324307) under the handle Payton and her reviews are not very good. I did not see her personally so I guess YMMV from the reviews. I got a bad vibe when dealing with her, switched her offline to text and that's when I learned the true story.What do you mean by learning the real story? Is she crazy or something?

The Parrot
08-20-17, 22:41
Her SA handle is "Promise patients" She has a TER I'd (324307) under the handle Payton and her reviews are not very good. I did not see her personally so I guess YMMV from the reviews. I got a bad vibe when dealing with her, switched her offline to text and that's when I learned the true story.So there are in fact "pros" on SA as I suspected, and one with bad reviews too!!

So it's not this end all be all Oasis to "top notch" poontang??

If I was at least in my 30's I would check it out. I'll leave it to you older guys, they seem to be having lots of luck there.

Plus I like the variety and novelty of dealing with multiple "new" or different chicks. Paying the same sugar baby faithfully every month would make me feel like a simp.

I guess I'd rather jump from random girl to random girl. The thrill of the Bbjcim hunt, I guess!

DRickGiver5
08-21-17, 12:47
So there are in fact "pros" on SA as I suspected, and one with bad reviews too!!

So it's not this end all be all Oasis to "top notch" poontang??

If I was at least in my 30's I would check it out. I'll leave it to you older guys, they seem to be having lots of luck there.

Plus I like the variety and novelty of dealing with multiple "new" or different chicks. Paying the same sugar baby faithfully every month would make me feel like a simp.

I guess I'd rather jump from random girl to random girl. The thrill of the Bbjcim hunt, I guess!I have came across quite of few who post or used to post on backpage and other sites. If I can't remember where I seen them before a quick search of the phone # and up pops an old ad they forgot to remove. Kind of like one who told me she doesn't like a man who pays for "dream". I wanted so bad to send her a link that's still alive from a backpage posting a little over a year ago and ask her if she's sure she means that.

GA400
08-21-17, 15:43
What do you mean by learning the real story? Is she crazy or something?I don't know if she's crazy. I just found out more about her. She was very slow to respond and the conversation was just a little strange. I googled her number and bingo, the first link was a TER review. She might be fine. But I'm not willing to take the chance.

Vega Wrap
08-21-17, 17:50
I have came across quite of few who post or used to post on backpage and other sites. If I can't remember where I seen them before a quick search of the phone # and up pops an old ad they forgot to remove. Kind of like one who told me she doesn't like a man who pays for "dream". I wanted so bad to send her a link that's still alive from a backpage posting a little over a year ago and ask her if she's sure she means that.Definitely pros posing as UTR, trying to get some sucker to pay civi SB prices for worn out BP pussy. I drove to a location backed out cause it had all the signs of a BP girl. Pimp types hanging out outside.

Always make a SB send you a current selfie from her phone. Some of them will stall like they don't look good or they are busy, but ask again later. If they go more than a day refusing to send one, they're probably bullshit. If they send you a pic that is just a profile pic from their SA page, they're total bullshit. Probably the only photos they have, because they stole them from someone else or pulled them from their facebook 5 years ago before they got into the life.

Once you get a pic, look for gang tatts. Clear sign of a BP regular. Some tattoos are fine. Gang tatts are a flag. Smoking pistols. Crudely drawn AK 47's. Crowns. If she has some guys name with a crown on her tit, walk away.

Vega Wrap
08-21-17, 17:56
Here are a few grainy vid caps from the pair I talked about earlier. The vid quality is better, but I tried to keep anyone from being recognizable. For a pair of 20 year olds, a fun time.

John HandCock
08-21-17, 17:58
Definitely pros posing as UTR, trying to get some sucker to pay civi SB prices for worn out BP pussy. I drove to a location backed out cause it had all the signs of a BP girl. Pimp types hanging out outside.

Always make a SB send you a current selfie from her phone. Some of them will stall like they don't look good or they are busy, but ask again later. If they go more than a day refusing to send one, they're probably bullshit. If they send you a pic that is just a profile pic from their SA page, they're total bullshit. Probably the only photos they have, because they stole them from someone else or pulled them from their facebook 5 years ago before they got into the life.

Once you get a pic, look for gang tatts. Clear sign of a BP regular. Some tattoos are fine. Gang tatts are a flag. Smoking pistols. Crudely drawn AK 47's. Crowns. If she has some guys name with a crown on her tit, walk away.Another way is if they want to meet immediately, $$time, have a motel room, operate out of their home, or use escort lingo you have an utr at least. A true sb will never bring you to her home at least till she is comfortable with you.

Grizzly383
08-21-17, 20:26
Here are a few grainy vid caps from the pair I talked about earlier. The vid quality is better, but I tried to keep anyone from being recognizable. For a pair of 20 year olds, a fun time.What was the damage BTW?

Southside Stan
08-21-17, 20:33
Her SA handle is "Promise patients" She has a TER I'd (324307) under the handle Payton and her reviews are not very good. I did not see her personally so I guess YMMV from the reviews. I got a bad vibe when dealing with her, switched her offline to text and that's when I learned the true story.I have seen three reviews, one of which was not too good.

What am I missing?

GA400
08-21-17, 20:43
I have seen three reviews, one of which was not too good.

What am I missing?Not sure what you mean. I was just pointing out the girl is a Pro in case some don't want to see her due to that. I agree, one reviewer didn't care for her while another seemed to like her.

JustMikey
08-22-17, 05:40
Here are a few grainy vid caps from the pair I talked about earlier. The vid quality is better, but I tried to keep anyone from being recognizable. For a pair of 20 year olds, a fun time.Nicki1016 and ReneeBaby1277 ? They look familiar.

Vega Wrap
08-22-17, 07:24
Nicki1016 and ReneeBaby1277 ? They look familiar.Absolutely not.

I had reeneebaby a week or two earlier. Nice girls but not even in the same class. Not close.

DRickGiver5
08-22-17, 08:32
Absolutely not.

I had reeneebaby a week or two earlier. Nice girls but not even in the same class. Not close.Nikki does look familiar.

JustMikey
08-22-17, 08:54
Absolutely not.

I had reeneebaby a week or two earlier. Nice girls but not even in the same class. Not close.If it's Sensualkitty and a friend that's close to her in looks, then they are definitely pretty, but how about the skill level? Are they more talented. More open menu?

Southside Stan
08-22-17, 09:38
Not sure what you mean. I was just pointing out the girl is a Pro in case some don't want to see her due to that. I agree, one reviewer didn't care for her while another seemed to like her.When you said she had bad reviews I was expecting to see more than one. Of course there were on my three reviews that I had found. Was not sure if I was missing more reviews somewhere else.

So far I have seen a few known pros on there.

Thanks.

Southside Stan
08-22-17, 09:46
I've had a few gals on SA offer to send pictures or want me to text them.

As I am not giving out my number to anyone initially and, I don't have a burner, I have replied with an email address.

It seems it falls on deaf ears so far.

I figure there is something to them wanting to text or wanting my number. I am usually sceptical about that.

Why would they want to send pictures to a number but not to an email addy? Does the message system block email addresses?

I will be getting a burner soon. I just have to re-read some of the information here to learn What is the better method.

TIA.

JustMikey
08-22-17, 09:54
I've had a few gals on SA offer to send pictures or want me to text them.

As I am not giving out my number to anyone initially and, I don't have a burner, I have replied with an email address.

It seems it falls on deaf ears so far.

I figure there is something to them wanting to text or wanting my number. I am usually sceptical about that.

Why would they want to send pictures to a number but not to an email addy? Does the message system block email addresses?

I will be getting a burner soon. I just have to re-read some of the information here to learn What is the better method.

TIA.I think it's the fact that they're in their 20's and are used to having a phone permanently attach to their hand. They tweet, they Facebook, they text at a furious pace without even looking at the screen, their photos are all in their phone. It's just a different generation than us.

But they sure look cute on their knees sucking dick, don't they. !!

Jaybirds
08-22-17, 10:07
Just realized a way I can help out some guys with SA. I'm a big bargain shopper, so my price threshhold is pretty low. Which means I end up talking to some absolute gems that I then can't take advantage of. If you let me know what you're looking for (DM me), I'll shoot you referrals as that happens. Tell me race, body type, and if there's anything else specific that you're looking for. Plus, most importantly, budget. Would love to help some fellow board members out.

Mstekh
08-22-17, 10:14
I think it's the fact that they're in their 20's and are used to having a phone permanently attach to their hand. They tweet, they Facebook, they text at a furious pace without even looking at the screen, their photos are all in their phone. It's just a different generation than us.

But they sure look cute on their knees sucking dick, don't they. !!Emails are a slow form of communication and honestly scream "Scam". Phones allow for quick contact and reply. They also providw an avenue to verify the legitimacy of a contact through apps like kik, skype, etc. Sending emails for a prolonged conversation outside of an official capacity or job is awkward. This is coming from someone in their late 20's who has mailed three letters and written 4 paper checks in his entire life.

DRickGiver5
08-22-17, 10:17
When you said she had bad reviews I was expecting to see more than one. Of course there were on my three reviews that I had found. Was not sure if I was missing more reviews somewhere else.

So far I have seen a few known pros on there.

Thanks.https://escortbabylon.net/#atlanta / comments /6788473761/23098771/1.

Island1981
08-22-17, 10:20
Just realized a way I can help out some guys with SA. I'm a big bargain shopper, so my price threshhold is pretty low. Which means I end up talking to some absolute gems that I then can't take advantage of. If you let me know what you're looking for (DM me), I'll shoot you referrals as that happens. Tell me race, body type, and if there's anything else specific that you're looking for. Plus, most importantly, budget. Would love to help some fellow board members out.A lot of gems I met had used SA or were strippers in the past, I think they are definitely better than most "professionals" that tend to rush people etc.

Airmantroy
08-22-17, 11:32
And semi pros, strippers, etc on there. I don't remember anyone saying there weren't. I see it like this. If I want to buy a boat, I'm not going to buy it from a toaster salesman who had a boat one time. I'm going to buy it from a boat salesman who sells them all the time.

If I can get a pro chick for 150-200 per visit, no clock that's what I'm going to do if I like her look.

I'll be happy to go thru the profiles I have seen and post the girls who are known pro's if y'all want to avoid them. Some have excellent reviews, some are just so-so.

Harley32
08-22-17, 12:12
I've had a few gals on SA offer to send pictures or want me to text them.

As I am not giving out my number to anyone initially and, I don't have a burner, I have replied with an email address.

It seems it falls on deaf ears so far.

I figure there is something to them wanting to text or wanting my number. I am usually sceptical about that.

Why would they want to send pictures to a number but not to an email addy? Does the message system block email addresses?

I will be getting a burner soon. I just have to re-read some of the information here to learn What is the better method.

TIA.Get a text app like Google Voice. That gives you a number based out of any city you'd like that isn't traceable to you. There are plenty of those apps out there. BTW, same for email. Get a gmail account and you can set up a discrete Facebook profile, Kik account, etc. None that would give away your identity.

Readytogetonit
08-22-17, 14:27
Now, I've had everything from FREE (YEAH, they like their daddy) to 300 for a romping 2 fer and time was never an issue. If I even talk about time it's always in the abstract. Why would I lock myself into an hour when I could have 2 or more for the same money? I've had from the lower 20's to the upper 40's (guys, I'm out of the lower 20's. They have been my worst experiences and have GPS big time) but the mid-late 20's and up have been my sweet spot. I'm totally into submission and the quicker I can get them to their submissive nature the better. I ask them if they care to exchange pics, send a couple of "G" rated ones sand then ask if they want to be a bit more "daring" with them. This works 95% of the time and especially if you've put in the work to get there. This all happens within 20 texts, plus or minus..I hit Sky up for digits on one of his kills, and it didn't work out. That was 2 Saturdays ago.

The same night, I also signed up for SA, and was messaging girls all evening, and all of Sunday. Made my first kill on Monday afternoon with a girl whose electric bill was $80 short. BBBJ. No hands and CFS!! She hosted, so no hotel spent. Didn't ask about BBFS because I wasn't interested. She was a bit bigger than her pics, and since I didn't do a M&G, I took the L, and did the deed.

Started texting another one on Tuesday, met up on Thursday for M&G, and just hung out in her driveway talking. 24 and lives with family. She's happy for dinner, and a movie and $50! BBFS ok, but I'm going to need hotels with her.

Last one, M&G was last night. As soon as I sent my phone number, she STARTED OFF with Hi. How are you, and then shot me 3 nekkid pics! I was like WTF, you get to the point, and she said, I just want to make sure you know what you're getting in case you don't like what you see. She's 26, and good to go for only dinner, and mani / pedi money ($50-75), or gift cards for her favorite lingerie stores and phone time (talk to her periodically) I told her that I need pics of everything she buys with the money (teasing), and she said, "how about I just cam you while I'm in the dressing room for your approval, daddy?" (dead serious) BBFS? No problem, daddy.

I'm loving this shit, ALL DAY LONG!

Thanks to Sky for reigniting this thread, and thanks to all the others who have posted contribs. You could spend 6 months reading the Virginia forum, or you can just read the 180'ish posts on here, and be ready to go by tonight!

Vega Wrap
08-22-17, 16:00
If it's Sensualkitty and a friend that's close to her in looks, then they are definitely pretty, but how about the skill level? Are they more talented. More open menu?Talking looks. I've had reenee and I've had sensual kitty within a week of each other. Looks wise reenee wasnt that special imo.

Steak 404
08-22-17, 16:54
And this thread getting some posts.

Couple of random thoughts (mostly in response to a number of the comments -- these apply across sites generally speaking):

Have a process. It's a numbers game. If you're a sales guy or at some point worked in sales it's the same thing (even if you're "buying" Your objective is to as efficiently as possible "qualify" as many of these "prospects" as efficiently as possible. Verify they are real. Find out what they are looking for. Meet them. Have a plan for where to go with the ones you like. Control your process. Tell them where you want the initial meeting to be. Your communications with them should as suggest the next step or action you want them to take.

Move from system messages or emails to texts as soon as you verify they aren't a spambot (& they have the same comfort with you). Goes without saying have a burner number for this purpose).

Voice verify before meeting anyone. You get a lot out of a voice and can gauge chemistry. Also not perfect but a lot fewer will no show after you've actually talked.

Don't completely rearrange your schedule around any of them you've never met before. A bunch of them will flake or things won't work out. This is also why you control the initial meeting spot. Make it convenient for you.

Try to identify their expectations before meeting. Doesn't need to be specific but eliminate the ones outside your budget.

Don't commit to anything until you actually meet her.

Set an expectation that if you like each other you want to move to a playtime location (unless you are actually fine with courting them. In not).

Always meet in a public place. Coffee shop or bar are great for this. Be wary of anyone that wants an initial meeting place at their residence (reflag for lack of mobility and true desperation). Also just plain awkward when you want to take a pass.

No what you bring to the table. Just a wallet or are you also younger or in good shape? Play it accordingly. Some really don't care about looks. Some really do. A good indicator here.

Be a nice guy. That doesn't mean be a simp but actually being nice goes along way. A big reason why the ones that aren't just interested ina wallet are playing here is guys her age are dicks.

On the topic of pics. Send her real ones. No point in misrepresenting and wasting your time. For security don't use the same ones you have all over the Internet on social media. By the same token, run reverse searches on her pics. Amazing what you'll find.

Don't fall in love. All good things end & there are plenty of them out there. Just your spidey senses. Be okay saying no even if it means going home and rubbing one out.

Steak 404
08-22-17, 17:09
Sorry about all the typos. Combination of trying to do this on a phone and this site's wonderfully "helpful" autocorrect feature. Hopefully you can figure out the intent.

One other suggestion is early on when talking about her expectations ask her about her experiences with "arrangements" before. Not just the amount but what did she like / not like? Why? Very helpful way to get a read on her and what she's looking for.

Also for the ones that admit to being relatively green a good chance to proactively dispell the myths about how big the money is and how glamorous it really is. 99% of them aren't kept women getting five figure allowances (they call those wives in Buckhead) like you see on TV.

Manzanito
08-22-17, 22:54
Just realized a way I can help out some guys with SA. I'm a big bargain shopper, so my price threshhold is pretty low. Which means I end up talking to some absolute gems that I then can't take advantage of. If you let me know what you're looking for (DM me), I'll shoot you referrals as that happens. Tell me race, body type, and if there's anything else specific that you're looking for. Plus, most importantly, budget. Would love to help some fellow board members out.Thanks for your offer to help. Shows your Inbox is full.

StrockInBizkit
08-23-17, 09:12
I hit Sky up for digits on one of his..
...You could spend 6 months reading the Virginia forum, or you can just read the 180'ish posts on here, and be ready to go by tonight!I am interested in reading more. What is the Virginia forum you are referring to here?

TravelinSD
08-23-17, 09:40
There are quite a few anonymous phone apps out there where you get a number that is not attached to your real number in any way. You pay for texts and minutes talking, but it isn't too expensive. I personally use an app called Hush. I'm single and I still send them to my Hush number first. Once I've met them or the turn out to not be BSC, I move them to my regular text.

I hope this helps.

Good Hunting!

Travelin.


I've had a few gals on SA offer to send pictures or want me to text them.

As I am not giving out my number to anyone initially and, I don't have a burner, I have replied with an email address.

It seems it falls on deaf ears so far.

I figure there is something to them wanting to text or wanting my number. I am usually sceptical about that.

Why would they want to send pictures to a number but not to an email addy? Does the message system block email addresses?

I will be getting a burner soon. I just have to re-read some of the information here to learn What is the better method.

TIA.

Novalimber2
08-23-17, 13:18
Just realized a way I can help out some guys with SA. I'm a big bargain shopper, so my price threshhold is pretty low. Which means I end up talking to some absolute gems that I then can't take advantage of. If you let me know what you're looking for (DM me), I'll shoot you referrals as that happens. Tell me race, body type, and if there's anything else specific that you're looking for. Plus, most importantly, budget. Would love to help some fellow board members out.Jay clear your inbox.

Grizzly383
08-23-17, 15:57
I am interested in reading more. What is the Virginia forum you are referring to here?http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ

I am not going to lie. It is a lot of work, but if you are decent looking and willing to invest some time then you won't go back to escorts.

Enjoy!

TooNiceTommy
08-23-17, 16:00
My turn to chime in, thanks to those that recommended SA!

My experience, I am a 50+ married man so looking for discretion. I am at least 1. 5 hrs from Atlanta so not as many to choose from.

Looking for 26-35 year old that can provide good / great sex. Not just a pump and done since I get all I want at home but basic stuff. Looking to meet 2 times a month.

First, did a M&G with a skinny possible ex druggy, not currently. Nice lady with bills and no baby daddy. Gave her $$ to help her out but do not plan to go further.

Second, everything same as first but had a little more fun. Basic so do not plan to return.

Third, separated woman with kids and no help. $$ and had a great time. 5+ O's from her which I love. Couple from me. She was nervous so had to start slow but after she got started, WOW. Set up a monthly thing so I am done looking. At least for the next few months.

I get pings from 18-23 year old girls but I just do not want that young. Easy to find girls as others have said. Totally different environment than BP girls.

SA cost a little up front, but well worth it. I did all the above in less than 2 weeks and have numbers from 4-5 other girls. If I wanted young I think I would have 20+ numbers.

Best of luck out there, be careful.

Readytogetonit
08-23-17, 16:16
There are a few such posts like this (IN THIS FORUM!) that should be stickied, and this forum is fairly young by comparison to the VA folks.


And this thread getting some posts.

Couple of random thoughts (mostly in response to a number of the comments -- these apply across sites generally speaking):

Have a process. It's a numbers game. If you're a sales guy or at some point worked in sales it's the same thing (even if you're "buying" Your objective is to as efficiently as possible "qualify" as many of these "prospects" as efficiently as possible. Verify they are real. Find out what they are looking for. Meet them. Have a plan for where to go with the ones you like. Control your process. Tell them where you want the initial meeting to be. Your communications with them should as suggest the next step or action you want them to take.

Move from system messages or emails to texts as soon as you verify they aren't a spambot (& they have the same comfort with you). Goes without saying have a burner number for this purpose).

Voice verify before meeting anyone. You get a lot out of a voice and can gauge chemistry. Also not perfect but a lot fewer will no show after you've actually talked.

Don't completely rearrange your schedule around any of them you've never met before. A bunch of them will flake or things won't work out. This is also why you control the initial meeting spot. Make it convenient for you.

Try to identify their expectations before meeting. Doesn't need to be specific but eliminate the ones outside your budget.

Don't commit to anything until you actually meet her.

Set an expectation that if you like each other you want to move to a playtime location (unless you are actually fine with courting them. In not).

Always meet in a public place. Coffee shop or bar are great for this. Be wary of anyone that wants an initial meeting place at their residence (reflag for lack of mobility and true desperation). Also just plain awkward when you want to take a pass.

No what you bring to the table. Just a wallet or are you also younger or in good shape? Play it accordingly. Some really don't care about looks. Some really do. A good indicator here.

Be a nice guy. That doesn't mean be a simp but actually being nice goes along way. A big reason why the ones that aren't just interested ina wallet are playing here is guys her age are dicks.

On the topic of pics. Send her real ones. No point in misrepresenting and wasting your time. For security don't use the same ones you have all over the Internet on social media. By the same token, run reverse searches on her pics. Amazing what you'll find.

Don't fall in love. All good things end & there are plenty of them out there. Just your spidey senses. Be okay saying no even if it means going home and rubbing one out.

Readytogetonit
08-23-17, 16:18
I for one, am NEVER going back. I've been trying to crack the code in the USA on what ISG guys call "non-pros". This is the USA version of that key.


http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ

I am not going to lie. It is a lot of work, but if you are decent looking and willing to invest some time then you won't go back to escorts.

Enjoy!

Readytogetonit
08-23-17, 16:23
It's drinking from a firehose. I've been reading that forum on and off for months, never quite happy that I had enough information to pull the trigger.

Then I ready this forum's 180 ish posts in an afternoon, and I was off to the races. Just had BBFS for lunch after feeding a hungry SB a 10 piece wing combo with fries and a drink.


I am interested in reading more. What is the Virginia forum you are referring to here?

Airmantroy
08-23-17, 21:54
If you run across a scammer, or a chick who is just trying to screw us out of money in some shape form or fashion. Post a link to her profile so we can avoid her ass. Hell if you come across some chick who drained your balls and you want to share, post a link to her too. LOL.

Grizzly383
08-23-17, 21:55
I am sooo glad the this is active now.

Can I make a request to you folks? Can we try avoid posting our "success stories"? I get it that you had a great time but it doesn't help other brothers here.

What I propose is:

1) We make posts about HOW it was a success. Share some insights about your ways of approach and game.

2) Share your failures and bad experiences, so the stronger players can give advice.

3) Rants?

Just my thoughts, everyone is not going to agree with me so feel free to add new points to this list.

Play strong!

Bigsqueeze
08-24-17, 08:10
I'm just passing on a good thing someone from the Virginia bunch worked up one day. Hop to their Virginia Board search these post# and go straight to the topic. Enjoy.

05-19-15 23:46 #9200.

USA SB Thread Highlights Part 2 - Contacting and Profiles.

Posts on how to handle contacting girls, setting up profiles, and handling initial negotiations. Note that these are in the order I found them, not chronological order:

John G Smith post #2285: red / green / pro flags in profiles.

F Scott post #2288: more red flags.

GuyWoodson post #1687: general SA guidelines / approach.

John G Smith post #1898: getting additional info via FB profiles, and unequal identity concerns.

HollywoodGuy post #2088: First version of his stock contact message.

John G Smith post #2233: screening guidelines and approaches.

HollywoodGuy post #2246: direct approach and what girls want.

John G Smith post #2250: caution with message wording.

SubCmdr post #2409: blunt approach to intentions.

Obx Fun post #15: general approach.

ThudPucker post #24: honesty in intentions.

Literal2 post #75: filtering time wasters.

Literal2 post #233: general approach.

Literal2 post #294: more approaches.

F Scott post #300: thoughts after posting a fake SB profile.

BigTigger post #405: approach for using the AM site.

Literal2 post #914: getting an agreement.

Coolhand2 post #918: first-time meetings right at the FC.

F Scott post #941: contact using words from their profile.

HollywoodGuy post #3320: approaching sugar as a salesperson.

HollywoodGuy post #4222: looking for a "friendly handshake" on the sale.

Revvo post #4711: adjusting your approach to match their expectations.

F Scott post #5015: polishing your profile and first message.

Revvo post #5116: being patient with an "abundance mentality".

Pats Fan1 post #5340: confidence and contacts.

UKnowWho post #5583: avoid "spoiled" and "pampered".

John G Smith post #5997: asking for pics to help filter prospects.

JeezLizard post #6101: organizing and tracking prospects.

DirtyDeeds38 post #6189: filtering and contacting approach.

DirtyDeeds38 post #6395: mentioning sugar and handling expectations.

FredMoore post #6396: making expectations clear.

John G Smith post #6397: caution with negotiating money.

FotoGuy1970 post #6693: answers to approach questions.

HollywoodGuy post #6956: Second version of his stock contact message.

ThirdCoaster post #6974: consistency between profile and message.

F Scott post #7787: quickly contacting new additions to the site.

JeezLizard post #8243: explanation for girls saying "I won't do. " in their profiles.

HollywoodGuy post #8252: Third version of his 5 Steps message.

HollywoodGuy post #8296: templates for mentioning donations.

HollywoodGuy post #8850: selectiveness and negotiating.

HollywoodGuy post #8978: Responding to a GPS request.

Jaybirds
08-24-17, 09:26
Hey guys, I've now cleared some Inbox space; sorry for the confusion.

One of my SA favorites has a room Friday night just south of Atlanta and is taking appointments. DM me and I'll get you details. Young, white, thin, great ass, bare.

Manzanito
08-24-17, 11:44
I am not going to use my credit card to sign up for SA site. Wanted to ask the team what cards did you use to pay for SA premium and anything to watch out for?

Grizzly383
08-24-17, 15:28
Make a dummy PayPal account then send money to that account using your PayPal account you use regularly. And Pay with dummy.


I am not going to use my credit card to sign up for SA site. Wanted to ask the team what cards did you use to pay for SA premium and anything to watch out for?

Firm Offer
08-24-17, 16:31
I am not going to use my credit card to sign up for SA site. Wanted to ask the team what cards did you use to pay for SA premium and anything to watch out for?I've always paid with my personal AMEX card, never a problem. They even have it stored for quick renewal. The item on your bill says something else. NOT SA.

RWarNmsn69
08-24-17, 16:48
Has anyone had sensualkitty97 ?

They want a crazy allowance but they look TGTBT. Claiming to be 20 year old models. Some of these girls don't look enough like their pics when you meet them. This one seems legit enough.

Anyone have a review?An immediate red flag to me is that she's only 19 but has had this SA account for 2 years and 7 months. Hmmm, that doesn't add up to me!

Safe mongering and sugaring!

Durtybirds
08-24-17, 17:03
Hey guys, I've now cleared some Inbox space; sorry for the confusion.

One of my SA favorites has a room Friday night just south of Atlanta and is taking appointments. DM me and I'll get you details. Young, white, thin, great ass, bare.Your box is full again.

Thanks.

Novalimber2
08-24-17, 17:35
An immediate red flag to me is that she's only 19 but has had this SA account for 2 years and 7 months. Hmmm, that doesn't add up to me!

Safe mongering and sugaring!If you follow Vegas Wrap all through the threads, you will see that he met with them and hit a jackpot. In one post, he placed some pictures. He said they are pricey, but definitely model material. He rate one 10/10 and another as 9/10. I am not on SA, but I sure would like to hook if I had all the contact info.

JShelly
08-24-17, 18:52
Recently joined SA on advice of seniors. Did have luck in finding but the price is too much like 350. And is only 5/10. Problem is I am getting the question asking to name the price and later they are adding 50-100 based on additions. I know a good sales person would know how to sell. But I am very new to this, appreciate inputs and go easy on me guys.

RipperMagoo
08-24-17, 20:12
I am not going to use my credit card to sign up for SA site. Wanted to ask the team what cards did you use to pay for SA premium and anything to watch out for?Buy a prepaid Visa with cash. It will cost you an extra 5. 99 or thereabouts, but it works.

2me4Looking2
08-25-17, 10:45
I've always paid with my personal AMEX card, never a problem. They even have it stored for quick renewal. The item on your bill says something else. NOT SA.This is exactly how people got outed with Ashley Madison. You have no way of knowing how secure their site is and these sites are prime targets for a hack because every guy is blackmail material or some so called social justice cause. I'd strongly advise that you use a prepaid visa and a fake name. I did that and had no issues.

LazaroRosales
08-25-17, 11:28
I second this. You can also just link a credit card to the dummy PayPal account and pay using that. The charge will appear as W8 Tech Limited on your PayPal statement and as PayPal *W8TECH.COM on your CC statement.


Make a dummy PayPal account then send money to that account using your PayPal account you use regularly. And Pay with dummy.

RipperMagoo
08-25-17, 12:08
This is exactly how people got outed with Ashley Madison. You have no way of knowing how secure their site is and these sites are prime targets for a hack because every guy is blackmail material or some so called social justice cause. I'd strongly advise that you use a prepaid visa and a fake name. I did that and had no issues.If Ashley Madison didn't clue people in, then I don't know what will. Always pay with a pre-paid cad. If you do PayPal, fund it with prepaid cards. ALWAYS. And use an email address that never is used for anything but SA. Don't even give the password reset email to a legit email address. NEVER.

P Connoisseur
08-25-17, 15:36
All,

Been watching this thread for a while and decided to take the plunge. I started this past Sunday. Since then I have had an all three hole session with a mature bbw which was amazing and just finished a super snuggling session in her car outside the restaurant we had lunch at. We are already scheduled for our next meet at her place. Based on how far I got in her car in the parking lot I am looking forward to some good lovin. She is in her 40's and looks great. All of this and I was out of town for part of the week too. When I view profiles on SA I start getting messages back. I'm mostly interested in 30 and 40's year old. I will read up on all the advice I see below. It should only get better and better. Glad this thread is active.

PC.

Readytogetonit
08-26-17, 17:59
What I propose is:

1) We make posts about HOW it was a success. Share some insights about your ways of approach and game.

2) Share your failures and bad experiences, so the stronger players can give advice.

3) Rants?1. I achieved success staying AWAY from the exact same types of women I would stay away from in real life. If you look like someone I would hesitate to approach in real life, I avoid on SA. In real life, I avoid chicks who look "too hot". It screams high maintenance (which means high sugar), late for dates because of time for putting on warpaint (eh, makeup).

2. Fail #1. (All of this in 3 weeks!) Didn't M&G a chick, and only had face, pussy / thigh, and ass / leg shots. Our first meeting was at her house at 10:00 at night. She was cute, but bigger than her pics. If it was a proper M&G before I committed, I wouldn't have moved forward to FC. Nowhere to bail out, and the little head had been doing the thinking all day, so I was stuck.

Fail #2. Spent too much time texting what turned out to be a bat shit crazy chick who lived so far away, that I wasn't ever going to close escrow with anyway. Figure out how far you're willing to travel for SB time, and figure out if they're within proximity QUICKLY!

Fail #3. Almost blew an opportunity with a chick because I spent TOO MUCH time messaging, and then texting. These chicks have a lot of dudes on their phone and chat window, and most of them are full of shit, and won't come through. They are on SA for a reason. They need something, and they have already resigned themselves to giving something to get something! So, strike while the iron is HOT! Just met her for lunch, and she's much happier, and I have memories that will last me for hours. Until I need another nut.

Rant:

Young chicks that hit me up are usually dangerous. While they're smoking hot, 98.7% of them have GPS, and I don't have the patience to weed through them, so I don't bother.

Why is it that these chicks are on a SB / SD website, but still want to act like they're on match.com and do conventional dating stuff? Oh wait. They're all having a crisis of conscience. They're further along in the understanding that all women prostitute themselves in some fashion, but they're not ready to fully digest the reality of said fact.

Steak 404
08-26-17, 20:00
Great report!

I know. It's like the hot stove. You got to get burned before you believe it's really hot.

Not picking on you. Just building on a couple of points. Lord knows I've learned all this the hard way.

I know it is also counter intuitive, right? She suggests meeting at her place; you think you got a sure thing, right? But think about what you might be getting.

Always M&G in public. When they won't M&G it is a huge redflag. They can still be hot (appearance wise), but it is usually a big red flag that they are not mobile. Think about the pool you are playing with that aren't mobile (not even to a McDonald's down the street) in the Metro Atlanta ares? This is the era of $5 Uber Pool.

If she is or could be mobile and won't M&G that should be a red flag too, like you are walking into a catfish no different than the fake pics the BP gals post.

Beyond the redflag and quality aspects of things, there is a huge strategic element to not going to her place. In public, you control the situation, etc. You don't like, you pick up the drink check and leave, being as gracious and polite as the situation dictates.

There's also a little bit of a safety issue with going straight to her place. It essentially becomes like going to an incall for P2 P. At least if you've met her at the Starbucks a mile from her place it makes organizing any kind of trap a little more difficult or at least involved.

Even worse than meeting at her place is picking her up and taking her to a place for "a date"/ M&G or a ride to your place. She's gets in her car she's kinda your responsibility to some extent. This is perhaps the worst lot: the can't host and not mobile. The double whammy. I've literally turned down 3* (two of them would have been straight up free) chicks this week where when it came down to logistics it turned out they were not mobile or able to host. Trust me it was hard to say thanks but no thanks, holler at me when you get wheels, but it just is a mess. *one actually could host but didn't want to M&G first.

Also if you are meeting someone for what you hope is a regular, ongoing thing the whole not mobile / can't host double whammy starts becoming a real time eater.

Changing topics, have a sense of urgency when you are scheduling dates. The odds of dates not occurring increase exponentially with the amount of time between now and when you plan to meet. Offer to meet same day or next day. There is no time like the present. You can't always control this but you want to push to meet sooner vs. Later. If they think you are being too pushy tell them straight up, "listen, in my experience, the longer we wait to get together the less likely it is that we actually hookup. " Also don't be afraid to tell the ones that tell you how busy they are (LOL) that "listen, if you are too busy too meet, I don't think this is going to work out. " (e. G. The whole take the offer off the table as a way of closing approach).

Finally, don't be afraid to double or triple book (first) dates (M&G with the expectation of playtime) on the same day. You look at it and think "wow if I see them all I'll be spent in more ways than one!" Stagger them a couple hours apart. Invariably one or more won't workout and you'll be glad you had a backup plan (literally because you're probably ready to go with anticipation from the first one that didn't work out). If you really can't / don't want to see the 2nd or 3rd one because you're busy simply cancel. Be a good guy about it and let them know ASAP. Don't no show them. Or if you can make the M&G but aren't sure you will be (literally) up for the playtime, meet her anyway and see if you like her but beg off on the playtime. If you really like her you might find yourself ready to go again! I call that a doubleheader! Enjoy!

I know the whole double or triple booking thing sounds like a dick move but trust me, she's doing it too. You know all those lame excuses she gives you for cancelling on you (assuming she has the courtesy to actually tell you) about stuff at work or her grandma being sick or whatever? 80% of that is her meeting a guy she perceives as a better prospect. Again don't be a dick about it. Once you know you won't be able to meet let her know ASAP.

I want to reinforce a point I made it my post a few days ago. Do this on timing that works for you. Don't jerk your schedule around for the schedule of one prospect. All of our circumstances are different but most of us probably have a couple of blocks of time in any given week that we could do "playtime" - if you are trying to meet new girls load up that block of time with several dates and increase your odds of having a good time.

Ideally you are doing the initial M&G in a place that is convenient to you. There is a bar in Buckhead that I met / meet so many propects the regular staff all knew what was up. Above average to stunning women, 10-20 years younger than me, never the same one twice, often two in an evening, we never arrive together. They caught on pretty quick and as a regular were happy for me or at least professional. They also knew I'd been stood up when I sat alone for 20 minutes LOL.

Have a system guys.


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2. Fail #1. (All of this in 3 weeks!) Didn't M&G a chick, and only had face, pussy / thigh, and ass / leg shots. Our first meeting was at her house at 10:00 at night. She was cute, but bigger than her pics. If it was a proper M&G before I committed, I wouldn't have moved forward to FC. Nowhere to bail out, and the little head had been doing the thinking all day, so I was stuck.

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Steak 404
08-26-17, 20:15
Adding to my last report on the topic of gals that won't M&G:

Think about why you're fishing in the Sugar pond anyway. It's because you're tired of the straight up P2 P pros and all that comes with them.

I'm not saying your sugar gals are good girls, but "good girls" (for lack of a better term) don't straight up invite strange men over to their place of residence. It is that simple.

The diamonds in the rough. The ones we're all trying to find. The ones we donn't share because we want to selfishly keep to ourselves lest they get turned out. The ones that have some good stuff going on in their lives and would just like a little help or excitement. You know the ones we dream about. The ones that aren't really just BP girls in disguise. These diamonds don't invite strange men to their place with having met them. It totally goes against all common sense from a safety awareness standpoint and how the better part of society behaves.

The gal that invites you to her house is not why you got into Sugar.

Maybe you take a calculated risk and try it and even have fun but basically you're just calling a BP gal. Nothing wrong with it. Just really not the Sugar program.

SkyHighBuilder
08-27-17, 11:40
Sooo, you run across all types on SA and for the most part I've gotten the realistic ones. Sometimes you need to bring them down to reality but they will get there.

This one, on the other hand, is VERY playful and a SUPER HOTTIE. She will send any pics you want. She is talkative and engaging till you get to the heart of the matter and then she pulls the trigger. She wants $1500 for an hour or nothing, LMAO ROTFL!

Her SA handle is LaurenAshley88. If you want some really hot pics the engage her. If you break her GPS let me know cause I would be a player at a reasonable number.

Happy Huntin,

SKY.

RipperMagoo
08-27-17, 16:04
Sooo, you run across all types on SA and for the most part I've gotten the realistic ones. Sometimes you need to bring them down to reality but they will get there.

This one, on the other hand, is VERY playful and a SUPER HOTTIE. She will send any pics you want. She is talkative and engaging till you get to the heart of the matter and then she pulls the trigger. She wants $1500 for an hour or nothing, LMAO ROTFL!

Her SA handle is LaurenAshley88. If you want some really hot pics the engage her. If you break her GPS let me know cause I would be a player at a reasonable number.

Happy Huntin,

SKY.Personally, I only search through minimal through practical. If anyone in the late 20's onward has more than that, I don't want to bother with them. There are just too many who are reasonable and desirable. Thanks for sharing. I've never seen an example of that. I've found that younger girls with the higher lifestyles didn't really put a lot of thought into it when they filled it out.

MoonshineXXX
08-28-17, 02:46
ROTFLMAO.

She musst be asking he rinds.

She quoted me $1,000.

I didn't have the heart to tell her I've got 4 giving me hours of enthusiastic no holds barred fun for between 0 and 2.


Sooo, you run across all types on SA and for the most part I've gotten the realistic ones. Sometimes you need to bring them down to reality but they will get there.

This one, on the other hand, is VERY playful and a SUPER HOTTIE. She will send any pics you want. She is talkative and engaging till you get to the heart of the matter and then she pulls the trigger. She wants $1500 for an hour or nothing, LMAO ROTFL!

Her SA handle is LaurenAshley88. If you want some really hot pics the engage her. If you break her GPS let me know cause I would be a player at a reasonable number.

Happy Huntin,

SKY.

DRickGiver5
08-28-17, 12:43
Sooo, you run across all types on SA and for the most part I've gotten the realistic ones. Sometimes you need to bring them down to reality but they will get there.

This one, on the other hand, is VERY playful and a SUPER HOTTIE. She will send any pics you want. She is talkative and engaging till you get to the heart of the matter and then she pulls the trigger. She wants $1500 for an hour or nothing, LMAO ROTFL!

Her SA handle is LaurenAshley88. If you want some really hot pics the engage her. If you break her GPS let me know cause I would be a player at a reasonable number.

Happy Huntin,

SKY.Here I am thinking that $300 was the number in the SB handbook since that seems to be the number that's always offered to me at first.

GA400
08-28-17, 14:37
Here I am thinking that $300 was the number in the SB handbook since that seems to be the number that's always offered to me at first.Same one proposed $1000 for the night with me.

I didn't get any photos though!

Airmantroy
08-28-17, 20:46
Same one proposed $1000 for the night with me.

I didn't get any photos though!So why hasn't anyone told offered her $300. She's not getting any dates at 1 k.

El Pirata
08-28-17, 23:20
If Ashley Madison didn't clue people in, then I don't know what will. Always pay with a pre-paid cad. If you do PayPal, fund it with prepaid cards. ALWAYS. And use an email address that never is used for anything but SA. Don't even give the password reset email to a legit email address. NEVER.Ok, I am trying to set up an SA account, and I want to pay for it anonymously. I purchased a prepaid VISA card today. When I try to pay for SA, it wants a name and address to use the prepaid card. So I set up a Paypal account, linked the card to it, won't work. Anyone able to give me a step by step or some help via PMs?

Pirate.

MoonshineXXX
08-29-17, 02:40
You must register your card.

There are instructions on the SA site and on the VISA card / card package.

I paid with mine using a pre-paid card and had no problem.


Ok, I am trying to set up an SA account, and I want to pay for it anonymously. I purchased a prepaid VISA card today. When I try to pay for SA, it wants a name and address to use the prepaid card. So I set up a Paypal account, linked the card to it, won't work. Anyone able to give me a step by step or some help via PMs?

Pirate.

MoonshineXXX
08-29-17, 02:44
I see no redeeming value in this individual, at any price.


So why hasn't anyone told offered her $300. She's not getting any dates at 1 k.

2me4Looking2
08-29-17, 11:13
Ok, I am trying to set up an SA account, and I want to pay for it anonymously. I purchased a prepaid VISA card today. When I try to pay for SA, it wants a name and address to use the prepaid card. So I set up a Paypal account, linked the card to it, won't work. Anyone able to give me a step by step or some help via PMs?

Pirate.You can enter any name you want when paying with a prepaid card on SA. The important thing is that you register your card first and then it should work. The one I used was a Target prepaid Visa.

One other thing to note, is that you will inevitably have a balance leftover and you can use it to buy an Amazon gift card for that exact amount on Amazon and then use it for normal Amazon shopping.