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Anyone been to the airport bookstore lately? Dont want to make the trip from the city if times have changed.
Thanks for the info.
King Spa in Valpo was busted Tuesday night. The place had been surveillance for 3 months & during the bust police confiscated several hundred credit card numbers. Also, according to Gary Post-Trib, license plate numbers had been recorded over the 3 months for surveillance.
But I don't think they can do too much as far as a court goes, but LE might try contacting the homes of those individuals as a "scare tactic" and also, to let everyone at home (i.e. wife) know.
This brings up an important aspect to keep in mind. Escorts & massage parlors DO get busted & you don't want to have any "paper-trail ties" to such places.
I've learned the hard way---remember the Crown Point escort bust about a year or two ago? Well, I used it & they keep credit card payment records, addresses, customer's name, and even occupation. I had all this confirmed by two escorts at the service. When this service was busted, I was worried about a legal headache--but lucked out when a judge ruled that the records had been taken without a warrant.
From now on, I NEVER use my real name or occupation. And no more out-call to my place. And it is always cash.
I always follow these three rules w/ regard to the hobby: One, do not use credit cards! Two, don't have escorts visit at home address. Three, don't use real name or occupation.
Just some ideas to keep in mind when having some fun.
Play it safe.
MrL141
Stopped by the airport bookstore on Wednesday. My first time there, nothing what I expected. The Greek or whatever guys were both there, paid the cover charge, got a bottle of water. There was a heavy black girl, and a white girl a bit on the chunky side sitting around, as were two huge black guys. Started to look around, the black girl approached and asked if I wanted a private show, I declined, I wanted to wait to see if any other girls were working. Then the white girl came up to me, asked the same questions. I didn't see any other girl working, so I took her up on her offer. I'm so bad with names, I think her name was Nikki. Chunky white girl, brown hair, tatoo of some guy's name on her lower back. $50 for three songs in the back. And I mean way in the back. Just a curtained off area with a chair. She started to strip and grind, and was very forward in asking if I wanted anything more. Extra 40 for BBBJNTC.
Great time, definitely will go back.
Originally posted by ny_jets
Anyone been to the airport bookstore lately? Dont want to make the trip from the city if times have changed.
Thanks for the info.
Last 4 times I've driven by the place has been closed. Feel it going to stay that way for a bit.
MrL141
PoorKuntryBoy
08-08-03, 00:26
I got a question. For the past couple of years I've seen what appears to be a wsw on State Line, which I know is rare these days. But two things set this girl apart. First she wears stereotypical hooker clothes, spandex pants, spandex mini dress, thigh-high boots and what looks like a Tina Turner wig. Second she looks to be about as big as Volkswagen. This is a B-I-G girl. I've rarely seen her actually walking on State Line, she's usually on one of the side streets, and only after midnight. But this week I actually saw her walking on State Line. I got a fairly good look at her, and now I'm wondering if this is a dude? She's been out there for a good while, but I've never seen mention of her on this board. Has anybody else seen her?
Nelson Muntz
08-08-03, 02:05
PKB Wrote,
For the past couple of years I've seen what appears to be a wsw on State Line.
I'll bet your looking at the last "old timer" of the Cal City Strip's "Golden Days"
Get close and there will be no doubt that you are looking at a guy, and quite a nice guy I've heard. The girls used to tell me about him and how they'd trade clothes with him.
He's Hispanic, a cross dresser and gets beat up a lot (probably when the "John" gets the weenie surprise.
He has been plying the streets of Cal City / Hammond for at least ten years that I know of.
And, NO! I've never been tempted.
Nelson
Originally posted by MrL141
... remember the Crown Point escort bust about a year or two ago? ... When this service was busted, I was worried about a legal headache--but lucked out when a judge ruled that the records had been taken without a warrant.
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I WAS REALLY SWEATING THAT ONE!!!!!!!!! Was NOT worried so much about the legal as the other stuff that could happen...
Rumor had it, that someone well connected was on the list... Good thing.... It just went away really quickly....
KuntryBoy, that could very well be a man on State Line. There was a TS they called "Randy Andy" who lived in Cal City and liked to hang out at Nick's. He also strolled State and Stateline hoping to catch some really drunk guys headed away from the bars. He didn't always dress in drag though because I did see him in my Hammond cruising days dressed as a male with short hair. That's some scary stuff.
Now for the BAD NEWS. It appears that we're not the only ones to notice the increased traffic around the Royal. I had to drive through Miller twice today, past the Royal. First time, headed east at about 10:30 am, I noticed near the fireworks stand on the east end of the trailer park, there were 6-8 of Gary's finest surrounding someone, with cuffs out and three or four unmarked cars present. The LE was undercover as they wore normal clothing with Gary PD stenched on T-shirts. I couldn't see much and noted that they were watching the vehicular traffic going past so I didn't spend too much time. Hoping that it was a drug bust, I cruised back at about 2:30 pm. The cops had moved to the Mickey D's parking lot and it looked as though they were discussing an op. There was absolutely NO ONE out around the Royal, male or female, but the doors were still open. Check the Post Tribune tomorrow and I'll drive past again and report what I've found but I think that we've been busted.........
Originally posted by Oddjob
Now for the BAD NEWS. It appears that we're not the only ones to notice the increased traffic around the Royal. I had to drive through Miller twice today, past the Royal. First time, headed east at about 10:30 am, I noticed near the fireworks stand on the east end of the trailer park, there were 6-8 of Gary's finest surrounding someone, with cuffs out and three or four unmarked cars present..........
I had been noticing a lot more LE hanging within sight of Royal since mid-summer. The place is notorious for crack & with that many officers, I have a gut feeling that it was a drug bust. At least I would hope. That would be a real waste to use 8 officers for a prostitution bust. Also, when they do have a sting on us "Johns" I would think you wouldn't want it that "showy" during the sting & scare everyone away.
Also, crack is all over US 20. I know that a junk/car repair & towing place called "Hook's", which was a stone's throw away from Royal, was busted for dealing coke about a year ago. But I do feel that Royal's days are numbered (if not already up). It is no mystery to LE that the place is loaded with drugs and prostitution. One, the other, or both will get the place shut down.
It may be worth paying attention to the little hotels in Porter County on US 20 just past the county line. I have heard of girls turning tricks there & walking that area. If Royal goes down, the action may move to that area.
Now to some other news . . .
Anyone notice that Broadway in Gary is picking up a bit? It has been fairly dead most of the summer, but I've noticed more south of 42nd. I even caught a glimpse of what appeared to be a very attractive blonde with long, wavy hair. I couldn't believe it! She was walking with a homely BSW. When I flipped around I watched another car driving away (most likely with the blonde) and I was left the homely one trying to wave me down as I was tried to ignore her--just my luck. Has anyone else seen her or have any other reports? Or is my imagining going a bit too active? I hope not!
Broadway in East Chicago seems to be OK & I've seen a couple of decent looking HSW, say about a 7 on the SW scale. I haven't been in P&M in a while, and the only prospects I've noticed outside the place looked pretty bad, rating a 3 at best. I think P&M's likes to keep the ugly ones more numerious than the gems in that it helps with the liquor sales.
Does anyone know about any places in Hammond? State Line is history. I have heard people mention Calumet, but I've never seen any action.
Take care all & be careful!
MrL141
Was at P&M a few weeks ago. First visit. I found it with no problems. After some of the posts on the board I expected a hell hole of a neighberhood, but it was ok. Lots of people out playing in the yards etc.. so I felt Ok. Went in to check out the ladies and all I can say is Yikes. All were in the 1-3 range.
If your thing is the thrill of veteran crack hoes, then it is your place. Talent looked much better and safer at the airport bookstore. However, am I reading that it is now closed?
I really miss fanny's. Good talent and good prices.
Slag Runner
08-09-03, 19:53
Last Wednesday I was returning from visiting a friend in St. Margret Hospital on Homan Avenue in Hammond. I took a shortcut to get back over to Calumet Avenue by taking Douglas Street East to Sohl and then jogged on to Fayette. I saw a 30 something WSW on Fayette that looked passable. I turned South on Calumet to go around the block and saw a second WSW alongside a bar parking lot one block south of Fayette. The second girl was also about 30 something but much better looking and had a better body than the girl I saw first.
I picked her up. She was quick to get in my car but quite nervous for the first 5 minutes we were together. Says Hammond LE spend a lot of time in this neighberhood due to crime and drug related activity. We wound up going to my hotel off kennedy Avenue in Highland for a two hour visit. Had a few beers, got loose and spent $60 for a two shot, not quite GFE experience. Her name is Tracey. Said she is 36 and has two kids in their early teens. She has short (very short) blonde spikey hair and a tight body except for a little bulge in the tummy. 34C natural titties with nipples that protrude about 1/2 inch when excited. Not a regular on the street but needed a few bucks to make a move to a new apartment. So she says.
She did say that she has friends who work the street on a regular basis and they hang out on North Calumet, past Chicago Avenue, Conkey Avenue West of Calumt near a strip of taverns and the side streets off of State Line Avenue between Michigan City Road and Ruth Street. Based on her input, I have scanned these areas and seen some activity.
Tracey is a good find and I did tip her an extra $10 for service and attitude.
SR
Well it appears the MrL141 was right. Cruised down 20 today, usually too late to see any talent at 4:00 pm but one of the girls was getting out of a pickup. The Royal is still open and there was no story in the Post-Trib, so maybe it was a drug bust. Now that I think about it, the T-shirts wouldn't be too effective on a sting unless they were busting johns, but they would publicize that, I would think....
Has anybody heard if Michelle is back at PS? Last time I was there mamasan said no. Do we think she will return or is she gone for good... :-(
Johnny Rocket
08-10-03, 14:51
What's going on at Peking lately? Any new girls? Any reports on older girls? Doesn't seem like it's worth going at this time...
Originally posted by MrL141
I always follow these three rules w/ regard to the hobby: One, do not use credit cards! Two, don't have escorts visit at home address. Three, don't use real name or occupation.
This is what got Jerry Springer nabbed a long time ago when he was playing politician in Cincinnati. He visited a "house" on the Kentucky side of the state line and paid with a CHECK. Duh... The place got busted, their records were seized and he was outed real good. Had to eat some crow and did so publicly. I would not be suprised if his visits were what got the place busted to begin with.
Originally posted by Horndog
Was at P&M a few weeks ago...
Went in to check out the ladies and all I can say is Yikes. All were in the 1-3 range.
Yeah, the place has some real lookers in there these days, don't it? I did a cruise-by to see if there was any HSW activity on Broadway as previously reported, but no luck. Did not even bother with P&M's though. I wonder if Tamika will ever come back, she was really the only thing worth stopping in for anyway.
I did also cruise 20 from I-65 to out past the little motels on the Porter county side of the line and nothing. Really had designs on hitting the Beach Cafe for some grub, had the map this time but also have been fighting heartburn for several days so I decided to hold off until later. No chili dog at Zel's either. ;^) All in all, a pretty unproductive day.
ChicagoBoy23
08-10-03, 23:24
please don't kill the golden goose
lots of LE read these chat boards
if you get so specific about location and person you will get people in trouble
Member #4828
08-11-03, 10:00
chicagoboy,
you're right. wasn't thinking straight. deleted as of a moment ago.
Thanks,
Joe
Member #1974
08-11-03, 16:48
Michelle is on vacation? :(
Who is worth visiting for a really nice massage... ?
Don't think I can wait for her return :(
I drove by Royal about 1:00 Sunday afternoon. I saw 3 SWs, all rather skanky looking, so I didn't bother to stop. I hope things get better in the area soon.
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Trip Report on PS.
Stopped in this weekend.
The mamasan was different and I recognized none of the staff. But, it's been several months since my last visit. Mamasan looked like someones Korean grandma. She was friendly, softspoken and did not say much.
Glad to report a great time with "Sam." There is an alternative to Michelle!!
She is a solid 8 to 9 on the amp scale for appearance, a 9 for shower technique and special service. Sorry GIJoe, but since we never got around to a regular massage, I cannot comment.
Sam is about 5'5", cute, very slim and trim with C cups, nice caboose, 20 something and very friendly.
Only problem is her very limited English speaking ability. Almost none. But a very friendly, happy personality and seemed to enjoy the session as much as I did.
Shower included a surprise protology exam, not as good as Oak Park, but certainly pleasant. DATY on the menu, and she seemed to get into it. Overall great time from start to finish including a hot towel clean up at the end. Almost a GFE and definately ranks in my top 5 experiences at any amp. A hell of a lot more service than at the various Cute Chinese Girl places, although price is 40 more than what they charge for the complete package.
The place was quite busy, on a weekend afternoon, but she did not rush things. Even offered another shower at the end. But since she spent no time on a massage, it worked out to an hour.
I asked her how long she would be there and she told me 7 days, but that might have been how long she has been there. Again, very difficult to converse. If you are planning a trip to PS, definately accept Sam if she is available.
I saw two other providers while I was there, and was lucky that I "drew" Sam. One was a real dog, and a definate turn down, the other was maybe a 5 or 6, but looked to have some potential and I would have tried her if she was the only one available. No sign of Michelle, but I didn't ask for her after I met Sam.
Any of you guys out there with some more PS reports?? ( other than Michelle of course.) PS was full of customers, so I am sure that some of you lurkers out there have some reports to share.
This board is really slow this summer. What's going on with you guys? Share the wealth! What's cooking at P&M, how about the airport place, more on PS etc.
Johnny Rocket
08-12-03, 01:44
FLASHMAN:
What are these "Cute Chinese Girl" places of which you speak, and where are they? What do they offer?
I've been thinking for some time that in Chinatown there must be at least a couple of Hong Kong-style brothels to serve the immigrant population. The problem is how to find them. I do speak Chinese but you can't just go around asking people where to get a hooker. I was in Chinatown this weekend and saw some slightly shady-looking places but couldn't investigate as I was with my GF. If I ever get up the nerve to ask someone in public, I will talk to a few of the crusty old men running some of the shadier restaurants there--if anybody would know, they'd know.
Meanwhile, it's trips across the line to PS for we Chicagoans looking for the Asian pussy...
Went to the Korean amp in Munster last week. 2 women were there I had Kim. She was about 30ish and small, very firm body. Table shower was ok she covered my privates with a washcloth (bummer). Gave a great massage but no extras were offered. The door to the room was left open the whole time that we were in there and i noticed a security camera in the corner of the room, not sure if it was for show or if it really worked or not. I intend to go back and give it a shot again and see what happens. If anyone else has gone please post.
J Rocket
There are several amp's in chicago land, staffed by mainland chinese, not Korean's. It seems like this segment is growing.
They are located in apartments, not storefronts, so they are really under the radar.
Most have no showers.
Typically a guy who handles the door and $ and only 1 worker is on duty. Or you will find a phone person who directs you to a neighborhood and you call back for an address when you get to the area.
They advertise on a few web sites as massage places. Try
http://www.chicagoafterdark.com
You will find several ads with similiar wording, regarding Asian, Chinese etc.
They change their names, numbers and staff frequently, so it is hit and miss. They are located in many areas in the north and NW suburbs.
YMMV really applies to these places regarding service quality. Prices are generally about 40 to 50 less than the usual rate at PS, but you get what you pay for.
The average experience at PS will almost always be better than the average at one of these places, but again, YMMV, and you can stumble across a great time.
Check the skokie board for some past reports.
Chinatown is a tough nut to crack. I agree with your comments that something must be there, but good luck in finding it. Some of the guys on the board hint that they have found them, but nothing specific.
There have been some recent reports regarding Chinatown places like the ones discussed above but I have never tried one. These places are not in the center of Chinatown, but a little bit outside.
Member #1974
08-13-03, 17:30
Flashman,
Thank you for the recommendation of Sam. She is a good back up to Michelle. I asked how long she would be here and she said 9 days. So... I am guessing it was two days later than you were there and that she has been there 9 days. She says later in the evening that she will go vacation for 2 months to Washington and/or California (home?) and I think then back two months. Her English was very poor to say the least. But her french was decent. Had opportunity to DATY but decided against it as I do not consider this a safe practice at AMPs. Actually had small amount of insertion without a hat. Never discussed extras just left a nice big tip for a great shower and she must have thought I was a real handsome and charming guy cause next thing you know she picks the tip off the table and screws my brains out. Stayed in for a few minutes after coituos exposion until I was flacid. Hat almost got stuck inside her upon exiting. Look of horror was worth price of admission! Elvis playing on CD was a bit annoying but funny as hell when she started strumming my johnson like a guiter along with heartbreak hotel.
As far as massage, it was pleasant. Also received light finger massage at end of session that lasted 50 minutes for 30 paid. She did attempt the ole back door finger trick too damn many times even though my ass clammed up like a lump of coal as my spincter is one way only. But, hey, some of you guys want that so here is your chance.
But I degress. Thank you for the recommendation. Sam is recommended by me as well.
I went to the AMP in Munster as well. Total rip-off. don't wast your money. Not even an HJ
Ralph Alton
08-14-03, 14:00
Went by the parking lot behind Bonanza on US 20 (north of exit # 15 on I-94). Nothing seems to be going on there anymore. Have had good success a few months ago, but LE must have had its way there.
Whats happenning wsg members? First time poster but a long long long time reader.
Anyway, last week some posted something bout Club Dlos. I paid them a visit, it was ok. Mostly females licking each other. Actualli I think there were more lesbo than straight females in there. the lesbo be snapping if you try to mess with them or their girlfriend. Anyway, this Friday I'll be paying them another visit hopefull guys will be able to participate in some of the action that takes place there this friday is theme is a toga party will see how that goes.
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ChicagoBoy23
08-15-03, 01:41
Joe the Lion
No problem man
She is fantastic and very friendly
Hate to see her get in trouble.
Best lap dance I have ever had
If only more girls were that wild
I'm done with the hobby, guys. I wish I would have been busted, but I never have. I've tested positive for herpes simplex II.
I think I may have gotten it from an incall location in northern Lake county. And it wasn't a streetwalker or P&M's action. It was a really hot "escort." The girl wasn't even 21 & didn't know she had it. I've informed her, and I hope she gets tested and finds another profession. I don't blame her--this happens and I'm no fool--this was bound to happen. Something like 80%-90% of all prostitutes test positive for HSV II. My guess it is the same for us "John's." And maybe I have been carrying this thing in me for years and didn't know it. All it takes is skin to skin contact. And yes, I wore a condom, but it didn't cover everything. You can even get it from BBBJ.
The physical pain from the sores is the easy part. Now I have to deal with my family & hope that my "better-half" doesn't have it & doesn't leave.
If anyone wants to back channel me with questions, etc., that is cool. But right now, I won't say the name of the girl I think I caught it from as I am not 100% sure it was her (only 90%). Depending on what she does, I might give a few more specifics, but I am not going to name her. If you are worried about infection yourself--get tested. But also, you can back-channel me with an incall address & I will tell you if that is the girl.
It's been fun, but I wish I never got involved in this "hobby." God, this sucks.
Vinny Voom
08-15-03, 11:52
Originally posted by Bukake
I went to the AMP in Munster as well. Total rip-off. don't wast your money. Not even an HJ I went there when it first opened, with the same disappointment. Seoul Spa advertises in the Sun Times along with the other spas though. Either they DO offer extra services with some kind of secret code, etc., or they don't and are unfairly giving the illusion that they do, but are charging $80 for strictly a message. AVOID THIS PLACE!
PoorKuntryBoy
08-15-03, 13:42
Oddjob, Nelson
thanks for the info on the State Line walker. I was curious, but not tempted. I never pick up anybody who looks like they can kick my ass.
I was out on Calumet the other night and saw this blonde in a mini dress walking. She was a 9 or 10 on any scale, and she had a lot of horns honking, but she never turned, so she was probably just a a good looking girl walking. Too bad. Aside from her I haven't seen anybody out in Hammond.
MrL141, damn sorry to read about your problems. Hang tough, brother.
Member #4828
08-16-03, 07:27
Chicagoboy,
I agree. The absolute best is putting it mildly. Had to go back for more the other night and still can't get that girl outta my head!
Feel free to backchannel me at wjupiters@yahoo.com if you want to start a fan club :-)
Joe
Can someone post a good route for hunting WSWs? I have a lot of posts on Chicago page, however, recently been assigned to Indiana (on Calumet Road) near the 2nd exit after the toll way from Chicago.
Thanks!
TheDude
ChicagoBoy23
08-16-03, 16:07
Bahahaha - fan club
Maria and Rebecca are the two reasons I ever go to Kenny Mays. They are both very nice and give great dances.
The beer is cheap $2 and there is no cover change, however IMO the place is a dive and most of the girls are average at best.
I am used to mega strip clubs in St. Louis like PT's or Diamond Cabaret where you have 60 girls (california blonds with implants) and they just suck the money out of you.
Industrial Strip is similar to aforementioned that except there is no alcohol.
Kenny Mays is a very different type of local club which I have never known about before. More mileage but inconsistent quality and experience.
You learn something every day.
FortWayneDude
08-17-03, 16:10
Originally posted by MrL141
I'm done with the hobby, guys. I wish I would have been busted, but I never have. I've tested positive for herpes simplex II.
I think I may have gotten it from an incall location in northern Lake county. And it wasn't a streetwalker or P&M's action. It was a really hot "escort." The girl wasn't even 21 & didn't know she had it. I've informed her, and I hope she gets tested and finds another profession. I don't blame her--this happens and I'm no fool--this was bound to happen. Something like 80%-90% of all prostitutes test positive for HSV II. My guess it is the same for us "John's." And maybe I have been carrying this thing in me for years and didn't know it. All it takes is skin to skin contact. And yes, I wore a condom, but it didn't cover everything. You can even get it from BBBJ.
MrL141, I am very sorry about your luck and hope everything works out for you. They are testing many vaccines for Herpes, hopefully one of them will be released soon.
TO ALL:
Note how he said he may have had this for years! That probably means he didn't get himself checked regularly.
Think about what we spend on the girls, and the MP's, and the SW's or whatever.
Well, at least every 90 days go spend some money getting tested!
people are so lazy about it, but truly that is the only way to catch the fact that you have it, and stop from giving it to others.
Nelson Muntz
08-18-03, 00:00
Thursday night I hit the State line stroll from State st to 162nd and back several times.
8-10 pm
1 BSW, 5 SW scale, very nice body not for me though.
1 WSW 5 SW scale, tall, thick (not fat) big boobies but walking back and forth in the very well lighted area across from St Marges hosp. It looked like a sting to me so I split after I got the "Look"
Friday nite, around 9pm:
After several passes around the State line area I was about to give up. I spotted a wsw, tall, thick, big boobies walking further south around state line pizza. It didn't look like the same gal as Thursday nite. I pulled over and pretended to look in my glove box for something. She came right up to my door. I opened it and she jumped in. She asked the "Are you police" question and I replied "NO" we talked about the heat and how she loved my air conditioning. Smelled of alcohol a bit (the lesser of all evil smells I guess) and seemed quite intelligent. Not drunk at all. She said it was $20. for head which turned out to be BBBJTC and very enthusiastic performance.
Look for a tall, blond, big boned, big boobies unrestrained in a t-shirt and light jeans.
Chris (Kris) no phone. Drives a red Ford Taurus she parks on side streets. IN. plates.
Good luck. Well worth the $20.
Nelson
Thanks, fortwaynedude.
Physically, I should be OK, but that is the easy part. Dealing with the fall-out from telling my better-half--well . . . Let's just say I'm in the process of moving.
I've spent several hours going over the Net about my situation--feel I have learned enough to get graduate credit! A vaccine is in the works, but a cure is decades off. On Aug. 14th testing began at IUPUI in Indianapolis (I earned my BS from there). The testing is for a vaccine to prevent infection, not a cure. There has never been a cure to a viral disease--EVER. There are vaccines for them, though (smallpox, polio, etc). Also, the early trials of the vaccine only seem to work for women--- a lot of good that will do any of us John's. The earliest they may be available will be in about 5-10 years.
Fortwaynedude, you bring up a good point. I really doubt that many (or any) of us get tested at all. WE ALL NEED TO. Just don't think "I use a condom and only see "clean" girls, crap." Condoms are a good idea--but not 100%. And I used condoms all the time. From just a single person level, testing is a very good thing to do for anyone that engages in this "hobby." Most STD's can be cured if caught in time. The testing isn't expensive (often free at the right places). And what I have, herpes, although not curable, it is treatable--it can be controlled along with pain and recovery time reduced. And be sure to ask for a herpes test as it is a specific test. Otherwise that isn't checked for unless you are showing sores--and the health professional doesn't just pass if off as something else (yes, it happens--a lot). Please, please, please, get tested.
Here is a bit more about how I most likely caught it. I'm posting it with some information in case someone else might have "walked the same paths with me," so to speak, with how I may have gotten it:
First, I now know it isn't an old infection. I had a swab test (they swab an active sore) and also, due to my "situation" (married--well, for now) I did a blood test for antibodies to try to date the infection. Based on the fact I have no antibodies yet in my blood, my doctor believes this is a "fresh" infection.
Like I have said before, I fairly sure I caught it from an incall location in northern Lake county. I've spoken a couple of times to the prostitute and she says she got herself tested and she doesn't have it, but is she ever scared. She seems like a pretty sweet girl, but I think she lying about getting checked---she knows the results too quickly (takes a few days) just doesn't seem that knowledgeable about how this thing is really tested. She didn't even that much about herpes--other than it is an STD. But I'm no doctor---maybe she is be being honest about being tested. However, It takes 90-120 days to have antibodies for it to show up in a blood test. She said she had only been an escort for 8 months, so she might have tested negative because she hasn't had the herpes virus long enough to show up in her blood. And also, she might not have any active sores (very common), so no swab test. It is very possible. And my gut feeling says it is her--just too many other details point to her. False negatives are pretty common until enough time has passed for this bug to show up in the blood.
Like in my earlier post, I won't post her name or address, but if you want to back-channel me with an incall location, I will tell you if it is the same girl.
Now for a bit more bad news for everyone. LET'S SAY SHE ISN'T WHO I GOT IT FROM. The only other place I could have picked it up from would have been 14 days earlier at PEKING SPA (sorry guys--but I gotta let you know all the facts). The time frame of "infection to outbreak" fits a bit better for the call girl, but it also fits for Peking Spa--I don't think it was there--but it very well could have been.
But like I have said, fellas--its been fun. It really has. I've enjoyed myself, but really wish I would have been busted instead of this (can you blame me???) I sure hope I didn't give it to my wife.
This isn't anyone's fault but my own. I am not going to blame someone else. I really feel awful for the girl I think gave it to me. She has another serious health issue--most likely why she turns tricks---and sure didn't need this. She claims she has herself tested for STD's a lot (and I believe her on that issue--she knows the details of the testing). The bad thing about herpes guys is that unlike most other STD's, herpes it is pretty test specific--i.e. you have to ask for a herpes test during exam/testing for STD's or it isn't done.
It's a fun but dangerous hobby, guys--Russian roulette and now I've lost.
MrL141
PS---Good luck, guys, and play it safe. If you have never been tested, do yourself and EVERYONE ELSE a favor and get tested.
Just a quick report---
Stopped by the RI yesterday around 3pm.
No action, just a few black guys hanging out in the front.
Member #1974
08-19-03, 18:58
MrL11
You mentioned that you visited PS. Well pretty much all of us visit there. After pretty much blacklisting them it seems only fair that you tell us who you visited and around the time. So if you did not get it from the escort, perhaps you did get it from PS and then a whole hell of alot of us are in danger. Therefore it only seems appropriate to say who you visited and when.
GIJOE, Sorry about rocking your world, but it is worse on my end, ok?? I have the virus & will forever & now I am dealing with the beginnings of a divorce.
And as far as saying which girl at PS---well, think about this. We all go there, and some of us go there a lot---we all see several of the girls. IF (and a BIG IF) I did get it there, the girl got it from one of US--MAYBE EVEN YOU (that ever cross your mind??)!!! So IF it is the PS girl, then she most likely isn't the only one infected. Hell, 80%-90% of all prostitutes have this. PS ain't going to be any different. You think that you only see the hoes in the 10% club???
ALSO, AFTER THAT THREATENING PICTURE YOU DIRECTED TOWARDS ME, I REFUSE TO SAY WHICH GIRL. THAT PICTURE SAYS A LOT ABOUT HOW YOU OPERATE. YOU DON'T KNOW ME, BUT LORD KNOWS WHAT YOU MIGHT DO TO HER. SHE IS MORE ACCESSIBLE.
But I am fairly sure it was an escort, but it could have been PS, but my gut says not---but could have been. If you are worried, have some balls and get tested. Only an asshole wouldn't if he is worried about it. Everyone involved in this hobby should. What harm would it do?? It doesn't take long and isn't expensive. If you test positive for an STD, you can get it cured or at least under control. Even AIDS can be managed for most if caught early. Or would you rather just lie to yourself--say "it can't be me---I'm 100% safe" and keep spreading this stuff around for others to enjoy? Is that the type of person you are??? I sure hope not. Seeing prostitutes is dangerous. Hell, we all know that. Only a fool would believe otherwise. If you are worried, get your ass tested. If you can't handle the real world, then that is your problem---don't try to imtimidate me with your wonderful pictures ---it isn't working or going to solve your worries. If you want true peace of mind, get tested, OK???. Most likely you have nothing if you lack physical signs, but you never know.
You will get nothing by threatening me except maybe your ass kicked--and you will still have your worries about STD's.
Do everyone a favor and get your ass tested--you are obvisiously worried (I don't blame you).
I'm going through a lot right now---so don't screw with me.
Johnny Rocket
08-20-03, 02:40
MrL141, I am sorry for what's happened to you. I hope things will turn around and that you can manage your condition with one of the new drugs out there.
You mentioned that you've been tested several times. Would you mind letting us know where a discreet, free (or nearly free) testing place is? That way others of us who are concerned can get ourselves tested.
Everyone: it's certainly possible that girls at PS have STDs, but AMPs are run by a ring of people who are trying to avoid the run-ins with LE common to SWs, and thus provide better customer service and will hardly ever rip you off. I think it's safe to say that any AMP girl known to have an STD would be taken out of circulation very quickly. That's no excuse not to have yourself tested, though (myself included).
Hey Everyone!
Out of boredom and curiosity I did the stateline cruise before work today. Spotted one known WSW by the Laundromat on Stateline. Then another WSW by Hohman and Gostlin. They were both a little older than I prefer. I almost picked up the second one, she started to get in my car, then I realised I was runing late for work. Maybe things are going to be picking up again.
I don't know how many of you look at bogdoggie, but I have a feeling that there was some sort of sting with Anal Ashley. She listed a Schererville phone number and address on her page. The number is now disconnected, and I have been by the residence she listed and it seems quite empty. Something fishy for sure.
Happy Hunting!
--Scooter
P.S. Brandy and Angela are having a going out of business sale until Sept. 1st.
Johnny Rocket
08-20-03, 09:42
Scooter: how good of a sale is it? And why are they going out of business?
This is what the girls posted on the Chicago bog doggie board:
"We are offering the rate of 150 an hour till sept 1st to show our appreciation to the very nice gentlemen we have met since coming on the boards...We will not be taking any more apts after Sept 1st..So give us a call and take advantage of our special.....219 201 1642 ......2 girls are 300 an hour there are no half our rates with this special........ "
Like I have said I had a really good time with Brandy and I plan to see Angela before they go out of business. They are located in Hammond so that is always a plus.
--Scooter
MrL,
Go to a therapist. You have made your situation clear to all of us. You have an STD. You are getting a divorce. Got it. Now quit attacking other posters (was that picture really directed at you?) go talk to your lawyer, your doctor, and your therapist.
Big D
P.S. (post script, not Peking Spa), if someone with strong anti-hobby motivations were to try to scare some people out of the hobby, Mr 12 posts STD freak issue would certainly be a good start...
Member #1974
08-20-03, 12:31
Big D
I must admit, that it did seem a bit odd to me that there where continued postings about this as well and that there could be the possibility of a scare tactic. For his sake I hope so. Do not wish this type of thing on anyone. The picture was not directed at him. In fact was meant as a way to spread a little humor. Last I knew, STD's did not cause one to be able to poke a finger through ones eye socket. Anyway I degress.
MrL141,
One of the few things I have learned in life is that writing often does not allow one to show emotions such as humour, etc and that often the tone of the message is misconstrude. I think this to be the case here. That is why I would rather be high touch not high tech on many things.
I do wish you the best and hope all turns out well. We ALL have marriage problems and I have almost lost mine on a few occassions to my own choices. Best of luck to you on that front.
I do not believe I ever questioned your having it worse that those of us who are 'LUCKY" enough to not have any type of gift that keeps on giving. I just thought it might be nice for us to be able to know whom you have visited as a means of not spreading further disease. That does not seem mean spirited to me.
You allude to my "threatening you" with my picture, etc. Perhaps I am naive, but I do not see how one could have felt threatened by anything I said or by a stupid picture that I have wanted to post for some time but have only know been able to due to WSG allowing uploading of pictures. Again, best of luck to you. With that I end this "debate" and say good luck again and may all turn out for the best.
Rocket,
Here is a web site to find places that offer free/cheap testing.
http://www.in.gov/isdh/programs/hivstd/counseling.htm
I just went to a walk-in clinic in Merrillville off US 30 (near I-65). Places like this are all over.
I think you misunderstood me about my testing--I have only had one. The escort says she has them every month. As long as you aren't showing signs (blisters or a rash), you are most likely OK.
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And now to Big D,
If you don't want to believe any of this---that is your choice. Maybe you are right. I am just making all this up. Did you notice that I am a "senior member"? That means if this is some type of "conspiracy," then it had been over a couple of years in the the works to get that status on my posts. Or maybe it is that Jackson himself (owner of WSG) is somehow behind it?? And maybe I was the 2nd gunman at the Kennedy shooting in 63---the one behind the grassy-knoll!! And maybe OJ really didn't do it!!! D, it's all coming together now.
Big D, go right ahead and just be a pussy and don't even bother with ANY type of STD test. No one in this hobby really needs to, right??I am sure someone like you with over 144 postings could never of gotten anything on their wang. I'm sure all the other John's feel far safer knowing that there are people out there like you that see no point in getting tested. Why waste your time getting an STD cured or under control?? What this hobby really needs is guys like you, Big D---people that want to close their eyes to a problem refuse ot do anything to be safe or KEEP OTHERS SAFE---I am sure you won't be tested. You know better, right??
Yeah, D, I am just making all this up! And since I have a "senior" membership, that means Jackson is behind it also! That make a lot more sense than I picked up a STD off a prostitute and now want to just tell others to get tested, just in case. You just go right ahead and bang every nasty ass hoe you can find. And don't worry about that little pimple--it is most likely nothing---for now.
Wouldn;t it be great if people spent as much time thinking about their emails/posts as they do when they are talking to someone? If you are to upset to speak with reason, then why set in front of a a computer and take it out on all of us?
I mean we all play, if we get stung, we pay... Why take it out on each other if "I" get caught?
One thing I was thinking of was, if it was from "AN INCALL" why not let us know, so someone else can avoid (or at least question) this person?
gi joe,
Your picture was a hoot. (Finger)
I can't see how it was a threat to anyone, but I appreciate how uptight our unfortunate fellow poster must be given his lousy circumstances.
I for one hope that he shares with us any confirmation if he picked up his problem at PS or from the escort. (Which one, if he finds out.)
Many of us posting on this board have been going to PS for years, and I, for one, have never had a problem--that I am aware of!
Anyone else out there with any reports on PS specifically?
Member #1974
08-20-03, 14:01
Just to move forward with what we all cum here for, I thought I would list a few places I go when I have no money but want to watch some movies or see pics for free: just add in the w's before and com behind elephantlist; sleazydream; or thehun; These all usually have some good stuff to look at to get ya in the mood before a trip out on the town, or if no cash is in hand (get something else in it). Hope this helps someone out. I know it often gets me excited.
I have always like flashyourrack dot com. Plus there are usually some horny women on yahoo chat who like to show off on their cameras.
Today the RI and Budget Hotel was dead. Where did all the crack hoes go?
Originally posted by SamaRy
Wouldn;t it be great if people spent as much time thinking about their emails/posts as they do when they are talking to someone? If you are to upset to speak with reason, then why set in front of a a computer and take it out on all of us?
I mean we all play, if we get stung, we pay... Why take it out on each other if "I" get caught?
One thing I was thinking of was, if it was from "AN INCALL" why not let us know, so someone else can avoid (or at least question) this person?
If I find out if I caught this bug from Peking Spa or the escort, I will post.
Member #1974
08-20-03, 15:03
Trying to put together a bachelor Party for a buddy. Need to find some good strippers without much attitude. Prefer two at a good rate for one hour. Not a problem if they do not perform extras as the groom to be will not be interested and brides family members will be there. Will be for early Sept. Any help greatly appreciated.
Originally posted by MrL141
If I find out if I caught this bug from Peking Spa or the escort, I will post.
Thanks...
I am sorry that you got "IT"
Originally posted by gijoe
Hope this helps someone out. I know it often gets me excited. [/i]
reminds me of a japanese porn movie? I love it, makes me feel soo much better.....
AnalAshley DOT com anyone heard if this is a sting? got to be, in highland?
Plus with all the bad raps she has gotten over the years....
Johnny Rocket
08-20-03, 16:43
I may have to check out Brandy and Angela before they go out of business. I thought their rates were too high before.
Anyway, today I experienced what in China would be called a "1-4-1" style place. Since some of us here who frequent PS are Chicagoans, thought I'd post it here as well as on the Chicago board.
I looked on chicagoafterdark.com and picked the place with the number 773-301-XXXX. The mamasan answered. The deal with this place is that you need an appointment, and she'll give you an intersection, but won't give you the exact address until you call her back, very close to the time of the appointment (i.e. you should be in that area already).
The price is like a typical AMP, or so the mamasan told me: $60 plus tips for 45 min. It's on Dearborn north of Division, but in accordance with the mamasan's rules please call and make an appointment to get the exact location.
I was surprised to find that it was a pretty nice condo building. When I arrived, the mamasan was not there. It was just the girl, whose name was Mary, a futon, and a TV.
Mary is a mainland Chinese, as are all the girls at these types of places. She had small tits, but was thin and pretty with only a couple of small scars. She was friendly and smiled. She asked me to get undressed and asked, $60 house fee, $60 for me. Shit, only $120!
Or so I thought--she began to undress for the massage, but left her undies on. When I tried to take them off, she said, you want that? I said yes. So she said, oh, then it should be total $200. Well that's what I'd pay at PS so I figured what the hell.
She massaged me for a while using Lubriderm lotion. It felt nice but wasn't anything to write home about. Nothing like Kathy's at PS. I massaged her for a while, sucked her tits, and rubbed her clit until she came. She would not let me insert my finger (she claimed the nail would hurt her, and from how tight her pussy was, I believe it). She also would not let me DATY.
Then there was CBJ and FS. We fucked in missionary, her on top, and doggy style. She came again while on top. When switching positions, she lubed me up with baby oil (!). Later I told her that oil destroys condoms and she should get some KY.
I came with about 1 minute left to spare out of the 45. While I was recovering on the futon, the mamasan called to make sure I Was finished--Mary told me that if you go over 45 min you have to pay more.
After I finished, there was no wiping me off, no soda, no shower offered. Mary wrapped the rubber in a paper towel, cut it up with a scissors, and flushed it down the toilet.
She was nice, the surroundings good, the air fresher than PS, and no dealing with anyone except Mary. But the ladies at PS are a bit more attentive and there's a wider selection. Mary's type of place is dotted all over the city and suburbs and it seems like more of a hassle than old reliable PS.
Mary did confirm for me that there are "massage parlors" in Chinatown, and gave me a couple of leads. Once again, when I have time I will check these out and report on where they are and whether they'll take non-Chinese.
OK, this will be my last word to the MrL situation. I never indicated that people should not be tested. I said that I am tired of your pity party. We've got it. You got burned in a bad, bad way. For the first couple of posts I felt really bad for you. However, at some point it is time to move on. Let's try NOW.
Senior status with as few posts as you have means you are an old poster, not that you are an active poster. Two different things, so that your senior status is not enough to debunk the possibility that you are not being truthful. In fact, 6 of your 14 posts have been about your situation, and you've only posted since June 22 of last year. I actually doubt that you are making it up, but every so often someone does something on here that makes me scratch my head.
On a more important note, I once tried one of these Chinese incall places in Bridgeport. The one girl essentially had a line of guys, and we were in this crappy apartment. The whole set up was kind of depressing (more so even than PS). The price was less than PS, but the service was absolutely get naked, roll on a condom, pump until you cum and move out of the next guy's way. Just didn't seem worth it. Anyone have a significantly better experience?
FortWayneDude
08-20-03, 19:04
Originally posted by Big D
On a more important note, I once tried one of these Chinese incall places in Bridgeport. The one girl essentially had a line of guys, and we were in this crappy apartment. The whole set up was kind of depressing (more so even than PS). The price was less than PS, but the service was absolutely get naked, roll on a condom, pump until you cum and move out of the next guy's way. Just didn't seem worth it. Anyone have a significantly better experience?
That has got to be the most pathetic yet hilarious thing I have EVER read on here!
Reminds me of a gang bang me and some buds did in high school, o the good ole ignorant days..and ignorant girls :-)
SamaRy-
About a year & half ago, I backchanneled someone from the Chicago board about some local hotspots and he gave me the AMP in the Chicago area. (I lost his letter when hotmail expired my account after I forgot to login after 30 days....duh.)
Anyway, he asked me if I ever tried A. Ashley since I was from NW Indiana. I never tried her, but thought you might like to know her web sight has been around for awhile. Don't know if she is real or not, but I have never seen anyone post about her and she does seem a bit "too" good to be true.
trainbum17
08-20-03, 22:11
As my dear old departed Dad used to say....when you dance to the music, sometimes ya gotta pay to the piper. And, with that being said, I think we should all move on from the petty bickering over someones unforunate experience with STD and get on with our purpose...dissemination of information on our (somewhat hazardous) hobby.
Nelson Muntz
08-21-03, 01:53
Hey gang,
Correction !
The WSW I posted about a few days ago, Chris, drives a Red Ford Tempo, not a Taurus as I had previously posted in error.
Good luck and happy hunting.
Nelson
Attached is NOT a picture of Chris
The first thing I noticed about Analashley's website was that her face looks extremely airbrushed in all the pics - like she's covering up a reallly bad case of acne.
Also, the only price she quotes is $500 for 2 hours. What about us guys who can only go for an hour, and can only "arrive" once?
Well, I'm not really into fake boobs (squirting or not), or anal, for that matter.
Originally posted by Big D
I once tried one of these Chinese incall places in Bridgeport. The one girl essentially had a line of guys, and we were in this crappy apartment. The whole set up was kind of depressing (more so even than PS). The price was less than PS, but the service was absolutely get naked, roll on a condom, pump until you cum and move out of the next guy's way. Just didn't seem worth it. Anyone have a significantly better experience?
Seems like a lot of people are starting to gain interest in this again.. The 1-4-1 used to be really popular years ago.. But too me I prefer a nice 1-on-1 without being rushed...
This is why I don't go to PS all that often anymore.. They are getting way to busy lately... Must be a lot more horny guys around.. Maybe just not as many are women putting out anymore?
ChingatuMadre
08-21-03, 13:57
Originally posted by Johnny_Rocket
You mentioned that you've been tested several times. Would you mind letting us know where a discreet, free (or nearly free) testing place is? That way others of us who are concerned can get ourselves tested.OK, guys, I know you are all going to bite me on the ass for not letting this just die a natural death, but here is one more little piece of advice. When you have yourself tested make sure you go to a clinic that allows you to do so ANONYMOUSLY!!! And I do not mean CONFIDENTIALLY either. Anonymously or nothing at all, no bullshit. If they require you to positively identify yourself in order to test you "confidentially" then head to the next clinic or even the next town down the road.
Here is the reason. Let's say you did pick up something out there not something real bad like AIDS or Hep-B or C that can kill you, but something relatively benign like the clap (gonorreah) or even syphillis. Believe me you do NOT want this in your personal medical records. Clap or syphillis can be cured easily and once done there is no reason for this to be in your medical record with your personal physician. I had the clap once, I went to the local health department, got tested, got some tetracycline and was done with it. The same would have been true for syphillis and to a lesser degree even with herpes. You cannot get rid of the herp but you can order Valtrex online and treat it and there is no reason for the family physician to know. Kind of tough if you are married but not so if you are a single hobbiest, just keep your dick in your pants until you are past being infective and go back on with your life. BTW, I do not have herpes or any other STD now.
Now it is a different matter with HIV or Hapatitis B or C. You are going to require more medical attention than you are likely to be able to pay for out of pocket so at some point you are going to start having to turn things in on your insurance. But until then it is still better, IMHO, for you and only you to know about your condition, at least until you decide what to do.
Do I sound paranoid?? I certainly hope not, because if I sound paranoid to you then you are in need of a reality check. With these new and wonderful laws aimed at fighting "terrorism" your life is an open book. Any and all information about you is as accessible as if it were on a billboard or if you were wearing a sandwich sign advertising your condition. Confidenial don't mean SHIT!!! An Iowa Planned Parenthood clinic was recently subpoenaed for ALL medical records for ALL patients in a fishing expedition by a prosecutor on the off chance that something in there might give him a lead in an abandoned baby case. I ain't sure how it turned out but just the thought of having it happen should tell you what "confidentially" is really worth these days. And Planned Parenthood is a private organization and challenged the subponea in court. How fast do you think the local health department clinic would roll over on you?? Quicker than you can say "confidential", that's how fast. Also, not too many years ago a "confidential" database of AIDS victims in an Indiana town, Lafayette, was hacked and the names, addresses, ect of the folks in there were compromised. No subpoena required for the hacker to do this and to out the AIDS patients who thought the information they provided the organization was "confidential". Confidential my ass.
When I had the clap I was asked for my name but did not have to show an ID. I was probably the 40th "Mr. Smith" they has seen that day, and it wasn't even lunch time. They took the swab, and having a beautiful lady doctor shove a Q-Tip up my pus dripping cock was not the most pleasant thing I have ever experienced, took a blood sample and gave me a number to ID myself when I called back for the results, along with a bottle of tetracycline. I called back a few days later, from a pay phone of course, ID'ed myself as "Mr. Smith" and gave them the number. They informed me of the results and told me just to finish out the course of tetracycline. Neat, clean, no muss or fuss and ANONYMOUS!!! This was before AIDS was such a problem and herpes was still the big thing going out there. Now, I am a heel for not having myself tested again in a long time, but that is a different matter.
P.S. I did not even catch the clap from a pro, just a "regular" girl who was probably as promiscuous as I was and am.
Johnny Rocket
08-21-03, 14:53
You're right, SamaRy, about PS getting busier. They also don't have as many girls there right now. I'm worried this will inflate the price, but they seem to be pretty steady so far.
What we need is more competition. Specifically, I'd like to see some AMP-style places with white and Latina girls. Hey, a guy can dream, can't he?
Regarding the 1-4-1 places, I was kept strictly to 45 min, but wasn't rushed beyond that, and no other customers were around. The mamasan told me that part of the reason for making the appointment is so that customers don't run into one another. For the most part they're in league with one another from city to city so I'd expect the same to be true with most of them--though I don't have enough experience with this in the USA to comment decisively.
Originally posted by ChingatuMadre
OK, guys, I know you are all going to bite me on the ass for not letting this just die a natural death, but here is one more little piece of advice. When you have yourself tested make sure you go to a clinic that allows you to do so ANONYMOUSLY!!! And I do not mean CONFIDENTIALLY either. Anonymously or nothing at all, no bullshit. If they require you to positively identify yourself in order to test you "confidentially" then head to the next clinic or even the next town down the road.
Keeping your ID private is understandable, but avoiding going to a medical professional and playing "witch doctor" with your dick isn't too good an idea. Yes, you can buy antivirals on line, but they are far more costly that way (2-4 times as much!) and if you don't use them right, you risk developing an an infection that is resistant to antivirals--and that puts all us in danger. These sales are really meant for those that have HERPES---not those that think they might. Also, STD tend to run in packs--you self-treat one but miss another. Also, I'd hate to have guys out there self-treating and "thinking" everything is OK--and then they infect others.
And I bet a lot of clinics have no problem with just becoming a "Mr, Smith".
But don't worry about John Ashcroft going after us. Federal law requires that medical records be keep private and confidental. The federal act that requires this, HIPAA, requires that your medical records are no one's business but your own. This law was even strengthened this year. The law even goes as far as to require that records be processed and filed out of the sight of other patients. Schools can't even be informed if they have students with AIDs unless the parents inform the school themselves. It is even a federal law that even your LAST name NEVER be used when calling you in to see a doctor---they will just use your first name ONLY. The law had it birth in crap insurance companies were trying to pull (not insuring a company if they found out an employee had cancer, etc.) But it affects every aspect of the medical field.
Here is a web site that goes over HIPAA.
http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/hipaa/
I'd just like to see it become apart of the hobby to get tested regulary. Every 3 months is about the right time line as an infection might take that long to show up in testing, but it isn't too long to get it taken care of. And if you have something that won't go away, say AIDS or HERPES, please find another hobby. I'll miss the Peking Spa, but I don't want to pass my STD on to others.
i concur about PS being busy. i went monday after midnite. there was a car parked in front. and as i pulled up, some guy was going in!. they did say it was not busy earlier. looks like i'll have to adjust my hours.
current line-up is sam, mimi, sophia and laura.
mimi was sent in, but i requested sam, who was available: very thin, and petite. decent massage. didn't think she was in the same league as michelle; but a very deep french speaker, albeit too brief. (i felt a little rushed.) oh well, YMMV
Originally posted by Johnny_Rocket
What we need is more competition. Specifically, I'd like to see some AMP-style places with white and Latina girls. Hey, a guy can dream, can't he?
Oh am I dreaming now.... Wow, I would love a great LatinMP or AmericanMP or even EuropeanMP around the area... Not gonna drive north of the city... too much hassel...
really miss NY sometimes... Latina Women in a lot of the MP around the bronx.... Ahhh just gave NY a compliment.... Better go before I say something else dumb.....
Dick Hertz
08-23-03, 11:41
Was on Stateline Rd last night around midnight and saw three sw two black an one white but none of them would rank higher then a five on an one to ten scale. So I went down to Rt 20 but there was an accident in front of the Royal motel so with all LE in front know one was going to do any thing. Better luck next time.
Originally posted by MrL141
Keeping your ID private is understandable, but avoiding going to a medical professional and playing "witch doctor" with your dick isn't too good an idea......
But don't worry about John Ashcroft going after us. Federal law requires that medical records be keep private and confidental......
Good point about treating yourself for STDs. If you ain't a doctor don't try playing one, unless you are an actor playing one on TV of course. ;^)
But as far as your records being secure, I still am one to err on the side of caution. HIPPA means nothing in the face of a subpoena or to someone bent on harvesting information surreptitiously for use in data collections outside the reach of the long arm of the US law, shithead Ashcroft included. There is no such thing as confidentiality these days.
Originally posted by Chingon
i concur about PS being busy.....
current line-up is sam, mimi, sophia and laura......
They need some fresh meat. I was up that way earlier today but, since I had not checked the WSG beforehand, I did not even bother stopping by. I knew I would ask for Kathy, the mamasan would say "Kathy on vacation" and I would end up with someone besides the one I really wanted. I think I will stay home until some favorable reports on some fresh ladies comes along.
Stopped by the Airport Bookstore the other day. Finally saw Honey, who has been talked about in previous posts. Took the three song set, and went in the back. She went right to work. I got FS for 50, but had to supply the glove. Have to work fast, since once the last song is over, your show is over unless you pay for more songs, but that definitely was no problem with her, as she knew exactly what she was doing. Will definitely go back to see her again. She's only there during the day she says.
P&M had allot to offer the other night.
Unfortunetly, nothing was good enough for even my low standards!
The was about 6 black girls (rating 3-4) inside and roaming outside of the place.
I did run into a decent and clean looking black girl who offered a BJ for 35, but she kept wanting to go back to her apartment. She said over and over how she is alone at her place.
I got a case of the willies and said no. Sometime you gotta listen to those little voices!
Originally posted by nelson muntz on 07/28/03
"I continued on to P&M which was also closed. I was driving around the block and a very "small" HSW shot me the look. I went around the corner and waited for her. Her name is Angie, she is Cuban, very short, very thin. Fits well in a car. Says she is 45yrs old but looks younger. Nice little boobies. smelled good and was clean (in & out) Cuban accent, but intelligent and fairly easy to communicate with."
Has anyone been lucky enough to run into this lady again? I've been keeping an eye out for her, but with my limited hobby time I have had no luck. I am just hoping she is still out there.
Ralph Alton
08-25-03, 21:19
Stopped by Vivea Spa on Rte 30 (just east of Merrillville Mall). First time I've been shut out (after a $60 loss). Just a massage. No handshake. No extras.
Has anyone else had better luck than me?
Mullet Monger
08-26-03, 15:16
Originally posted by MrL141
Here is a bit more about how I most likely caught it. Umm, not trying to be a jerk here, but...
Are you sure it wasn't your significant other?
Originally posted by Ralph Alton
Stopped by Vivea Spa on Rte 30 (just east of Merrillville Mall). First time I've been shut out (after a $60 loss). Just a massage. No handshake. No extras.
Has anyone else had better luck than me?
Wasted lots of time there years ago... None-since... Same as Munster.....
Nelson Muntz
08-28-03, 01:55
Wednesday night 9pm ish
Girls apoppin at P&Ms.
I didn't even have to go in. 4 BSW, 1 thick, 1 scrawny, 1 OK nice rack, 1 real nice, got in car and left. 1WSW (older, butter face), 1HSW (Angie) I took Angie back to my friends house.
When people say YMMV they aren't kidding. I posted very favorably about Angie before, but not this time.
She acted very strange. Asked to use the bathroom and spent 15 mins in there. Hurried performance while bbbj kept constantly switching to HJ, said "couldn't breath" Waste of .25
Girls and guys out side of PS too. Just out for a smoke it looked like.
Happy hunting,
Nels
p.s. Attached photo a P&M 5?
Nelson, your pic ruined my lunch
Member #1974
08-28-03, 17:09
Nelson,
If that was a PM 5 this must be a 10.
Member #4242
08-29-03, 15:19
GIJoe,
That is a nice car!
Desi
Warpig2000
08-29-03, 21:41
Okay Nelson, Gi Joe, very funny.
Here is a clandestine pic I took inside P&M, artfully blurred to protect the less than innocent (Yes, the girl in the Red Dress has an awesome figure... she is standing next to Dino, the owner's son and Afternoon bartender)
And yes, the girl is Vanessa, the buxom but short weekend bartender. She died her hair bright Red almost two years ago...
More on her another day. I posted previously what a major ***** she was, she seems to have undergone a major attitude readjustment of late- since November actually, when she more or less had to put the bottle down or face loosing her liver. She's actually fairly cheerful now but maybe not worth the Benjamin Franklin she's asking for when everyone else will get neekid and horizontal for two Jacksons.
P & M's can actually be a fun place in a comical sort of way if you don't take it too seriously ;)
See attached picture for difference between DATY at Peking and P&M
Billy270128
09-03-03, 01:08
Hey!!
Howd you get that naked picture of my wife, the one on the right? Now I'm gonna have all the neighbors lining up to get at her. THANKS ALOT!!
Just kidding! That pic is pretty foul, but I knew a guy in the military that would absolutely go out of his way for those big women.
Billy
Hey, thanks to Jackson for getting the forum up and running again. I was suffering from monger info withdrawal.
Good news, Kathy is back at PS following an unusually long "vacation". Strangely enough, I did not see any other girls in there, but they could have been hiding in the back. Hard to go wrong with Kathy, now if they could fill out the lineup with hotties things would really be looking up. This time last year the place was paradise, what happened??
After leaving PS I decided to take the obligitory cruise past P&M's and up and down Broadway in EC. I saw a hot HSW walking up Euclid after apparantely leaving P&M's, or their parking lot anyway. Not bad looking in the face, dark skin with jet black hair, legs a little on the skinny side and when she smiled it APPEARED she was missing one of her front teeth, but this could have been an optical illusion. I take this as a good sign, I would like to see more latinas available to us, as I prefer them to most other women, and certainly to the skanks that have infested P&M's here of late. Any info on this one guys, I'm certain she was working and if I had not left my deposit at PS just minutes earlier I would have picked up on her.
Broadway in Gary was dead as a doornail, except for bumper-to-bumper traffic which made the detour even more of a waste of time. Did not bother cruising 20 but I have seen nothing up that way here of late anyway.
Johnny Rocket
09-15-03, 01:37
Yeah I wonder what's been up at PS lately.
Michelle claimed she was coming back after her vacation... I wonder where she might be?
Glad to see the board up & running again!! Good work Jackson!
(You don't realize how much you miss something till its gone.)
For all you eastbounders, give the Simeton Lake AMP a try. I stopped by the other day and got a the 1/2 massage by a novice 24 yo Korean girl for $45. (You gotta love new girls!) For a bill tip, I got everything I wanted.
P & M has had some decent prospects in the last few weeks. I saw the missing-tooth HSW as writen about before. Not bad, definately above the P & M average. They also have had a few decent BSW in and out of the place as well as a real nice red head. (She is hard to find...only saw her once.) I think if we get some cold weather, the hoes will seek refuge there and the will be easier to round up.
Anyone have any luck at the Royal? I haven't seen anything there lately.
The Royal was raided and all the girls thrown into the Lake County lockup. They apparently raised the ire of the trailer park owners to the east who turned them in. LE cruises the area very regularly now and checks behind the buildings along the road for stragglers. They' ve pretty much run all of the talent off. I guess that the mayor wants Gary as clean and pristine as the streets of Ogden Dunes (plus Miller is becoming a yuppie community). They've cleaned out the truckstops too, so the pickin's are slim to non-existant.
Thanks for the info.
Damn Yuppies anyways......always fu@king up a good thing.
Ralph Alton
09-16-03, 23:06
Just a reminder of a lesson that cost me dearly. I usually am more careful, but while getting a most unbelievable BJ by a lot lizard working the parking lot behind the Bonanza on Rte 20, I had gotten careless and left my wallet in my pants. She slipped the wallet out took the money out of that wallet and put the empty wallet back in as slick as could be. So two jacksons turned into an 8 jackson toll.
The only good part is she left my cards and ID's. I figured no sense feeling stupid without bringing some good out it. So if you're getting more service than you expect, don't let the happy time distract you from noticing other activity in another part of your pants! I learned it the hard way.
Ralph:
Didn't you say you wanted her to get in your pants?
Really though, been there done that. And almost lost a damn nice expensive coat that way.
Bears 16-0
09-18-03, 16:56
Any current reports on Peking?
Thanks.
I got a hankering for some skany hoe......................
Anyone else? Or is this board dead?
Wow... 1 little crash and noone posts anything anymore???
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Been dead in Indiana lately... Been going to IL....
Peking is the same as always, just really busy lately it seems...
I really hate it when Peking Spa gets busy. You just seem to get more "rushed" service.
And DATY is out of the question. I know the girls are always clean, its just the idea of the thing.
Vinny Voom
09-23-03, 23:21
Anyone know when King's Spa in Valpo closed? The number is disconnected, but the building looks like they were shut down fairly recently.
Ben Dover, samaRy:
i know Kathy is at PS.
what's the rest of the line up look like?
I've never posted here, so I hope this is appropriate.
Rt. 20 seems to be under tight LE scrutiny. Cruised around for about 3 hours over the weekend, late night, saw 1 possibility, but not even a certainty.
Broadway was productive from midnight on, but the two far north near 5th rated about a 2-3. Strung out too, I imagine.
Did see one very attractive north of the Marathon, but there was a Gary squad car parked nearby with a van pulled over. I went around the block, she moved off Broadway and waved me over. I cruised around for about 40 minutes, not picking her up. When I came back later, the squad car was still there. I'm pretty sure this was a trap, but I guess I'll never know.
I'm so damn afraid of getting busted, I'm not sure if I'll test the water here, and I don't really want to spend the $$ on a massage when all I'm looking for is some quick oral ecstasy.
As a new poster, I'm very interested on hearing from you veterans as to places where I can be safe of avoiding the damn LE.
Thanks.
Ben Dover,
Where is Simeton Lake AMP located?
Thank you
Member #1974
09-25-03, 11:02
Vinny Voom,
During the month of August, the Valparaiso police sent in a group of undercover drug task force agents to close the place down. There was a front page story on this in the post tribune with the headline" More than just a massage in Valparaiso".
The allegation is that two of the employees offered "sex acts" to the undercover police. The police had been watching the place for several months/weeks (as reported) and taking down license numbers during the time. They claim they would be contacting some of these people to build there case (sounds more like scare tactics).
Do a google search on Valparaiso prostituition and you should be able to find the story. I can honestly say I never visited there, and actually didn't even know where it was until after the bust. Probably not the best location and possible it is harming service at other locals (lying low). Could this be why things are somewhat quiet here in NWI?
GoodoleboyIN
09-25-03, 20:57
The Simonton Lake Massage Therapy is in ELkhart. Exit 92 from the toll road. It is approx. 1 mile north on State Road 19/Cassossoplis St. This is the street you exit the toll road onto. It is in a little strip mall on the left hand side of the street when you are heading north.
Well, it's Thursday night, I revisited the area around Broadway north of 45th Avenue, absolutely nothing. Rt. 20 is clear also. What the hell is going on?
The sad thing is, I'm just looking right now. I don't even have the nerve to dive in yet. There was nothing out there to even see.
Veterans, please advise me on this place in East Chicago.
Thanks.
Scrubly...
My suggestion is play your instinks.. If it looks too good or smells like it is wrong.. Pass it up... I have been enjoying this hobby for a long time... And will always pass up a "possible" to stay on the safe (not busted) side....
Chingon, I had a "Lee" the other night, but Momason Hung tells me she is new, and not staying long... She was a 8 looks but a 4 technique... Stay with Kathy... .
Slag Runner
09-26-03, 20:58
For those of you who felt prostitution was dead in the Hammond / Calumet City corridor, read the following article from the September 26th edition of the Times newspaper. The attached photo depicts one of the female streetwalkers being removed from the undercover cops's unmarked car after offering the cop a sex act for $15.
Prostitution sting nets 11 arrests
Police nab 9 men, 2 women during crackdown in Hammond.
BY JIM MASTERS Times Correspondent
HAMMOND -- A morning prostitution sting in Hammond's downtown area Thursday exceeded police expectations, resulting in the arrest of nine men and two women.
Although the Hammond Police Department's Special Deployment Unit targeted "johns" by posting a undercover female police officer as the bait, the actions of two women allegedly working State Line Avenue yielded unexpected results.
Detective Sgt. Ray Finley, who headed the operation with assistance from the department's Criminal Investigations Division and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Task Force, said he couldn't be more pleased with the results.
"Today was especially successful because we not only got nine johns, but two prostitutes," Finley said. "We kind of ran the gamut today."
If anything, Thursday's arrests and previous sting operations have demonstrated that some people still haven't gotten the message, Finley said. A reverse prostitution sting earlier this year netted a handful of arrests, and police continue to make the occasional prostitution arrest in the area.
"We will be down there again," Finley said. "I guess old habits die hard down there."
Between 10 a.m., when the operation began, and noon, Hammond police had arrested three men for allegedly soliciting a prostitute. After lunch, business began to boom.
Most of the men arrested were either from Calumet City or Hammond. Police said two men had large amounts of cash in their vehicles. Police said they recovered $1,800 from one vehicle and $2,500 from another.
That was money the men could put toward their bond, which was $1,000 for in-state and $2,000 for out-of-state residents. Both charges, soliciting a prostitute or prostitution, are misdemeanors, Finley said.
Edwin Ferrer, 32, of 5244 Ann Ave., Hammond, reportedly attempted to talk his way out of being arrested on a charge of soliciting a prostitute by saying he had a job application in at the Munster Police Department. Officers later called Munster police to see if that was the case and to inform them a potential recruit was in their custody.
Each suspect's vehicle was impounded, including a Northern Indiana Public Service Co. van police said was being driven by Mark E. Whitmer, 48, of 118 Trunk Court, Michigan City.
The undercover female officer said some of the men were somewhat leery as they approached her in such areas as State Line and the tennis courts at Harrison Park, but some men actually haggled with her over price, police said.
"The majority of them pretty much seemed like they'd done this before," she said.
She said the two women arrested for prostitution apparently undercut her price, going as low as $15 to perform a sex act.
Police said Mary A. Pitera, 33, of 1916 Calumet Ave., Hammond, was flagging down cars on the Illinois side of State Line, but she was easily coaxed over to the Indiana side and jumped in an unmarked police car without hesitation
Slag Runner
09-26-03, 21:01
The following article appeared in the September 26th edition of the Times newspaper. It offers the establishment perspective on undercover prostitution operations in Northwest Indiana.
Officers cautious not to trigger entrapment law.
BY JOSEPH RYAN
Times Staff Writer
When police officers embark on undercover stings to try to stamp out prostitution, like they did Thursday in Hammond or recently in Valparaiso, they are constantly walking a fine line of the law.
The danger for police -- and sometimes a blessing for those arrested -- is the potential of entrapment. This fine legal line makes police cautious about how they act when they work an undercover prostitution sting.
"The defense will really be looking at the exact words, reactions and circumstances very closely," said Derrick Carter, law professor at Valparaiso University.
The fine line, which can become hard to see, especially in the veiled banter between a "john" and a prostitute, is whether or not the undercover officer traps the subject into committing a crime that person had no intention of participating in.
For example, a judge is likely to see a significant difference between a prostitute who offers sex to someone that pulls her over and one who flags down a car and talks a person into buying sex who initially says no, Carter said.
However, even though undercover work can turn into a legal tightrope act, it seems to have been a useful tool for law enforcement.
Hammond police regularly employ the tactic along State Line Road, perhaps one of the most popular locations in the area to buy sex. Police arrested nine men in that area Thursday for allegedly soliciting sex from an undercover officer and two women accused of trying to sell sex.
Joint operations by Hammond and Calumet City in the same area resulted in 37 arrests for soliciting sex in March 2000; at least 21 were arrested in 2002.
Valparaiso and Porter County police shut down a massage parlor they said was really a sex shop last month, arresting two employees on prostitution charges. And a coordinated sting involving 20 officers shut down a so-called escort service in Crown Point last year, police said.
The frequency of such operations is exactly why residents, police officers and attorneys should be very aware of precisely how they are carried out, said Ed Yochnka, spokesman for the Illinois branch of the American Civil Liberties Union.
"Constitutional protections aren't just niceties or simply obstacles to law enforcement," Yochnka said. "The issue becomes that maybe next time it will be your children or your neighbor on some completely different issue that they become overly aggressive on.
"We need to be as vigilant about the small things, as we are the big ones."
For that reason, police regularly video and audio record the operations, said Hammond police Officer Michael Jorden.
"We are very careful about it," Jorden said. "Obviously, we have to be."
The police officer who arranged the Crown Point bust also said the undercover operations are carefully planned to avoid entrapment issues.
"You always have to take a look at the investigation and decide how you are going to approach it," said Detective Roy Dakich, declining to talk specifically about the 2002 arrest of four women accused of being prostitutes working under the guise of an escort service.
That case is still working its way through the courts, though a judge tossed out reams of evidence Dakich collected from the women accused of running of the prostitution ring because he didn't get a search warrant.
The Valparaiso case involving King's Spa is awaiting trail, and a national organization is looking into whether the two Asian women arrested were forced into prostitution.
Meanwhile, Hammond police say the stings have been an essential tool in keeping "date" seekers away State Line Road, which was once referred to as "sin strip."
"It is a great deterrent," Jorden said.
Hi Scrubly
It's always good to see new posters. As a rule of thumb, its okay to ask any question, but try to return the favor and post your observations. Newbies who just post question but never offer information gets old fast.
For a safe first time, go to a bar called Pete & Mables in East Chicago.
The place looks rough, but its rather safe (from LE and other thugs).
Go on Fri or Sat evening around 10pm. Sit at the bar and just be cool. Wear a tee shirt and jeans. Have a drink and wait. They will come to you. Every girl in there is a working girl.
FortWayneDude
09-27-03, 11:50
What can u expect to get/pay at Pete & Mables?
Slag Runner
09-27-03, 19:52
I have attached a photo of the 15 dollar hooker referenced in the Times article posted below. She is shown emerging from a vice cop's unmarked car after being busted in Hammond for offering to perform a sex act for fifteen bucks.
Slag
HappyGardener
09-28-03, 08:05
FWD;
Do a forum Search with "Pete & Mabels" or "P & M". You will see hundreds of past posts about the place.
Thanks for the info, Ben.
I think I will take a drive out there in the next couple of weekends. I have to admit, I'm just nervous as hell about LE. Getting busted and having my name hit the papers would ruin my career, and end my marriage. I'm still weighing the pros and cons of the situation.
I drove back through Broadway in Glen Park twice this weekend. Absolutely nothing inviting around at all. I was hoping to see the same girl I saw last Saturday night, but she wasn't around. I'm thinking she probably was a cop.
Good luck.
GrantBurger
09-28-03, 19:35
You know what, it just dawned on me that I never reported my adventure at Shangri La. My buddy and I went there 2 weekends ago. The females were gorgeous. They could tell we were some outta towners. I have a lotta friends in Gary, eventhough I'm from Chicago, so I knew all the people in the club, but the ladies didn't recognize me. All were VERY friendly, and kept trying to get us to do a private dance. Went with Eboni, both my friend and I (seperately) got FS behind the curtain. There was plenty of that goin on too. One of the dancers didn't close the curtain all the way and you could see what she was doin. It was fun. Dance was $50 for 3 songs, and an extra $100 for FS. It was worth it for me because I got to talkin to her, and got her real name and number, and now we doin business on the side, I'm tryin to do my own thing with an escort sevice. That's all for now!!
Has anyone else had any luck at Shangri La?
Do you have to ask the girls in the private room or do they make the first move?
I drove by the Budget Inn at around 5 am the other day and saw 4 or 5 BSW. They looked like typical crack hoes and I didn't stop. That place just looks too seedy for me. Maybe someday.
Dick Hertz
09-29-03, 21:31
If you saw pigs flying or feet got cold because hell froze over don't be surpise because there were two good looking women at P & M today. I'm not kidding. Of coure it was there first time there because I ask them. One was a short thin BSW name Passion and the other I was a little taller BSW but I did not talk to her because they both draw crowds. The only problem was the amount of money she wanted. She sound like an escort but she needs to realize is you can't get those price's at this bar. Please believe me I'm telling the truth two good lookers.
GrantBurger
09-30-03, 01:06
She reached for my stuff when I was sittin at a table. But pretty much the initial conversation went you take care of me, I'll take care of you.
Went to Peking Monday night... Lots of bears fans must have left early and came there...
While I was in with Cherry...
New girl really young, short, small A's and a great Ass.
Attitude about an 8
Looks about a 6
Massage about a 5
Performance about a 6
Any way, there must have been 10 guys coming in and out while I was in with her...
kathy, lee & cherry at PS. i wonder who the fourth one is. looks like i'll have to find out for my self.
10 guys!!
i hope all this additional traffic does not bring any unwanted attention to PS.
Chingon.
There is no way that Le doesn't know about PS. East Chicago is just corrupt to the bone. I wouldn't be suprised if The mayor gets his "weekly massage" there. Still, park in the supermarket parking lot (not right at that curb either, especially if you have out of state plates) and walk over there. Heaven forbid that my wife gets a phone call asking me to 'move my car from in front of the massage parlor'.
Jay
East Chicago, best politicians money can buy.....
Pastrick (mayor) has led the city of East Chicago for eight consecutive terms.. Hope it stays the same.....
Action heating up around 41st and Broadway last couple of nights as it gets dark earlier. One waved me over about 6:45, saw three more about :15. First one was decent looking, but obviously strung out on something. Second two looked cleaner, but not nearly as attractive. No cash til Friday, so didn't stop. Just checking the traffic, will return.
Chingon,
I believe that the 4th girl over at P.S. is Sophia (unless they got rid of her in the last 3-4 weeks). Really, not woth your effort.
Anybody have any Idea what heppened to Mimi??
J
Its been awhile since I remeber a Sophia at PS.
I do recall a girl called Sophia a coulpe years ago who worked there. She was older and said she was from California. She wasn't the best looker, but she was cheaper.
I got FS for much less than the normal two bills.
But I have not seen this Sophia, so I don't know if the same one or not.
Member #6131
10-03-03, 16:09
Hi All,
I went to the PS a few months ago and was with a girl who had braces on her teeth. I can't remember her name and I was wondering if one of you could help me with that name. Thanks :)
Haven't been to the airport bookstore in a few weeks. Does anyone know if they have any new girls? Preferibly white or Latina? Looking for some variety, since I've seen Honey and Nikki so many times.
Re Elkhart Simoton Lake spa
Had a session there with "Linda" last week. Only girl there that day but she said another girl "with big tits" would be here soon.
This place is 65 at the door. Lame shower and even worse massage. She wanted the tipped action to start fast. $ & .20 for all. She did open up a bit and said she liked to suck dick and did a nice shaft and ball lick before covering for fs. She did allow daty but was "not into it" at all. Afterwards we both showered off together which was a nice touch. Not what I'd call a great experience but didn't get taken either. Looks were very average and effort was poor.
Ben Dover,
Not the same Sophia as a couple years back. I remember her as well, but never had the opportunity to partake of her.
By the way Bath, Kathy is the one with braces
Drove by the airport bookstore today on the toll road. Looked pretty busy, 5 or six cars parked outside. Would have stopped in but I didn't know what exit to take off the toll road east bound. Anyone know how to get there off the toll road???
GoodoleboyIN
10-11-03, 20:34
Take the exit past the airport, then you follow the road all the way around outside the airport then you are there.
Warpig2000
10-12-03, 01:23
Icon- which would you recommend between Honey or Nikki ?
Hey guys,
Today I saw a hot-looking WSW on Broadway, south of 80/94. (I never saw any service providers south of the highway before)
Since she was so good looking and it was mid-day and in a new spot, I got a bit nervous and passed her by.
I will make a few more runs in the area over the next few days and report.
Anyone else see any action on Broadway?
GrantBurger
10-12-03, 22:42
I am in Gary a lot, I have a gf out there, but...there are usually anywhere from 2-4 sw's south of the e-way, usually within a few blocks from the hotel. I've never seen a white one, but usually a few BSW's
I have been spending a lot of time cruising north on Broadway from 45th up to Route 20 (5th Avenue). I then take 20 east to Portage. I usually cruise this route twice during the week around 8 PM and then again on either Friday or Saturday night between 11 PM and 1 AM.
Last Wednesday, I saw a WSW around 39th and Broadway. She was fairly attractive, bleach blonde, very thin, black outfit with a big black belt. She looked really strung out to me, and looked like a big time junky body.
There is almost always one or more BSW at the corner of 41st and Broadway late at night. Earlier in the day, it's hit and miss. Late at night, there are several BSW starting at 94 and heading north on Broadway, with most of them being up near 5th Avenue.
The action on 20 is almost gone. With the Royal having been busted recently, and LE almost continuously patrolling the area, it looks to be a dangerous place to me to risk getting arrested. I've noticed something interesting at the Royal recently. There have been 2 -3 WSW behind the hotel, hanging out with one or two men. From 20, they appear to be pretty damn attractive. They are on the northwest corner of the hotel, where it looks like there are some steps leading down to an old pool or something.
There were a bunch of cops around the Royal both Saturday and Sunday. On Sunday, they were checking out cars in the parking lot just outside the main door. I did see one BSW dressed to kill there on Saturday night, but with all the cops around, it just wasn't worth the risk to me.
I think we are living in some pretty bad times for this hobby right now in NWI. For some reason, LE seems to be cracking down on things pretty hard these days.
I'm going to check out P & M's next weekend. Thanks for all the info.
Good luck and stay safe.
Warpig,
While both girls are great, Honey does BBBJTCWS, while Nikki "just" a BBBJ. Honey only works during the day.
visited PS last nite. met Mina(?), older, a couple of tats, passed on her. my second choice was Laura, 29 y.o., attractive, nice shape, enhanced rack, 4 tattoos. gave decent massage, but the extras were mechanical. she wasn't in to it. also no DATY.
was told Susie, Kathy would return next month.
Went back down the Broadway/Rt. 20 loop tonight and saw 3 very interesting sights.
1. On Rt. 20, about 6:30 PM, WSW about 20-25 walking between the Royal and the trailer park. Circled around, she was game, but I literally didn't have the $$, so I left. Went back around 7:00 with money from the ATM, but she was gone.
However, there was a nice looking blonde sitting on the wall on the west side of the Royal. When I went back to check her out, there was an even better looking brunette walking along 20 with a black male (pimp, probably). I circled around, she flagged me down, but by the time I got turned around again, I lost her (several LE in area too). Back at the Royal, the blonde was gone, and the original WSW was not to be seen again.
I'd have to say, after the last 3 weeks of action, things are certainly picking up.
Icon,
What does the "WS" stand for in BBBJTCWS?
Chingon, I was kind of hoping they had gotten "the message" and shown Laura to the door. She gives the most uninspired performance of any of the girls I have ever had at PS. Unfortunately for us she is really good looking, which will no doubt ensure her a steady supply of customers willing to put up with her bullshit. Although I think the tattoos are tacky and gross myself. This place is in desperate need of some fresh meat, without the attitude.
Dougie,
don't get your hopes up.
Laura said she was gonna be there another 2 months.
Warpig2000
10-17-03, 14:52
maybe not if regular customers complain to the mamasan.
Of course I never been to Peking becuase Orientals generally aren't my bag, but if guys who always come around give the thumbs down you can bet their would be staff changes in a hurry.
Chief_Wiggum
10-19-03, 12:36
Which one is Nikki? I've only seen Honey (the best, imo), some big (and I mean big) black girl (same time) and some really, and I mean really ugly white girl (heather? holly?) at the same time.
At night, I saw the black girl, and the ugly white girl, and Tiffany, the nicest looking of all, but still a bit chubby. She gave me contact info, but I threw it out b/c she asked for too much for a cbj (half bill, 3 songs, poor work for a bbbj (she orginally wanted cbj)).
TheShadow2
10-19-03, 22:41
red734,
I would assume that meant "with swallowing."
But you know what assuming does....
That would be correct Shadow.
Chief, Nikki works nights, has long curly dark hair. A bit chunky, but no more chunky than Honey is. They are the only two white girls I have ever seen there. I do know that Honey and Nikki do not get along. Every time I see one of them, they're always bad mouthing the other one, which is quite funny. I agree with you, Honey is definitely the best.
What is going rate at the bookstore?
I always paid 1/2 bill plus 20 for a song,...but never tried to ask for less.
ChicagoScott
10-20-03, 15:17
Just curious what the "airport bookstore" exactly is. Strip club? Bookstore with peep shows or something?
Sounds interesting. I frequent Industrial Strip and it may be a nice stop afterwards?
Thanks.
The airport bookstore, is, well, hard to describe. You need to ring the bell to get in, an old Greek (?) guy will greet you, charge you the $3 cover. Inside looks like a dumpy adult book store. Girls will come up to ask you for a private show. $50 for three songs. They let you pick the songs out of the jukebox, and then you go in the back room or up on the "stage" which is just a platform with tarps hanging down, to hide it from view. Both the stage and the back room have only a chair. They tell you to sit down, and start to give you a lap dance. Some are more forward than others. I only had to ask for extras once. Never paid more than an extra 20 for french, and 40 for everything (you supply the rubber). A lot of fun can be had for under $. Anyone know of any other place with White or Latina women in Indiana, Illinois or Michigan? EMP's or any other places like this?
FortWayneDude
10-21-03, 01:59
Just curious, do the sw's go in for the winter or are they typically out year round?
[Just curious what the "airport bookstore" exactly is. Strip club? Bookstore with peep shows or something?]
Its an adult book/video store with a couple of booths where you can get private dances. Usually only a couple of girls working and some are not that great looking. $20 for one song, $50 for three + tips that you can negotiate. You can usually get BJ but booths are very uncomfortable. I've only been there once and don't plan on going back.
Any information on the two Asian parlors in Elkhart. I believe one is Simonton and the other is Lake something. Sorry if I'm not that clear on the names.
But, I'm up that way every weekend(visiting family) and I've been too some in Ft.Wayne and really looking for an AMP this weekend.
Also, I find myself when going to new ones....getting suckered into paying more then what others post that they pay. How deadfast can one be when they pay the cover fee and then don't pay over a c note plus a quarter for service?
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Luke
New AMP in Hobart: Saw an ad in local paper for Oasis Spa on route 6 near route 51. Its across the street from Walgreens. Anyway for a short time it was a legit place had a male who gave massages. Recently it changed hands and I went to check it out.
Its probably the cleanest neatest AMP I have ever been in. They are very LE conscious...but I quickly disrobed and made her feel at ease. I started with a body shampoo never did that before..fun then we went to the room. Unfortunately I didnt bring enuff money...she said 80 more for head etc. I was short so settled for a happy ending. Two working one about 40 other about 23...She said to tell all my friends so they get more business. Its not Peking Spa. but from what I could see of other workers its close...Nice neighborhood plenty of parking..I even used the Sauna and it very neat and clean...I liked my visit and think others will like it to.
Re Elkhart Spa's:
Both searched Tue night and Wed. Investigation ongoing according to Elkhart paper. No arrests made yet. Another one bites the dust!
Member #1974
10-23-03, 10:58
Buttman,
Do tell, Do tell.
How much was the door fee? Who did you see. How did the 23 year old look. General attitude of the workers.
Could this be a nice diamond in the rough for us east siders.
Anyone else got info.
Also, what is going on at PS. Been kinda quite lately. When is Michelle coming back?
GoodoleboyIN
10-23-03, 17:23
Both Simonton Lake Massage Therapy and Natural Image Spa were raided last night. No arrest but they did find condoms, which so they suspect more than massages.
Elkhart AMP's:
Hey goodolboyin,
So this may be a dumb question. But, do you know if they were closed and if they weren't do you think service would be as usual or not?
Thanks.
Luke
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Our tax $ at work...
Go raid a place, and find condoms, so "Something Else Must be going on..."
Gee ya think?
Normally, they get a BJ and then bust someone....
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trainbum17
10-27-03, 16:29
getting laid in Hobart...the original Hobart...not the Merrilville addition? remarkable! wants to make me move back home again
Amazing isn't it. I'm going to have to give this place a try.
I had great luck at P & M last week. The place had at least 8 girls working that night. Some better than others.
One of them was by far the best looking girl I had EVER seen in that place. She was easily an 8 or a 9 on the good old SW scale. Needless to say, I took her home. (or at least a vacant alley nearby)
FortWayneDude
10-29-03, 18:32
Ben Dover, what is P&M?
Where is it?
Warpig2000
10-29-03, 19:42
FortWayneDude:
P & M's is short for Pete and Mabels Bar.
At the corner of Euclid and Broadway. This map should help:
http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed=Boz2ROp_0TrbOgwAI6IGlafUcw5NkcLPUig-&csz=East+Chicago%2C+IN&country=us
SW's in East Chicago tend to gravitate there. Its generally safe but a not so nice neighborhood, and everyone knows why you are there. Check back posts (hell over 70 pages now) and you'll find a ton of information (and a little bit of misinformation) on the place. Good Luck.
Warpig2000
10-29-03, 22:11
Bad news guys. The following article on a prostitution raid on Gary strip clubs appeared below in the Gary Post Tribune. Unfortunately the link to the site did not appear, so I posted it verbatim including the name of the reporter and her email address. I deleted the true names and hometowns of the dancers, right now all the ladies don't need is to be freaked out by stalkers.
Its bullshit this Jelks guy thinks we need to be protected from ourselves- I think we ought to email the reporter and tell her exactly what we think of her brown nosing this sob. Hell, tell her she probably got on her knees and sucked him off to get his report. <snort>
Anyways, extras at the Miller clubs may be a thing in the past for a while and I doubt the dancers will want to see new clients out of the clubs. Right now they are targeting girls, but they could twist the arms of management to set mongers up, pressure against keeping the club opened or keeping a liquor liscence. Be careful out there...
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Strip club cruising results in five arrests
Tuesday, oct. 28, 2003
By Lori Caldwell / Post-Tribune staff writer
GARY- At one of Millers strip clubs, a whiskey and Coke will cost you $14; a three-song private lap dance is $40.
And for another $100 or so, you can have a dancer all to yourself in the back seat of your car, police investigators said after visiting four bars during the weekend where five young women were arrested for prostitution.
It begins with contact during the lap dance, then it moves on from there, Detective Sgt. John Jelks said. Every arrest involved a private dance, but it would be at least $100 and sometimes $1,000 to get them to commit to an act.
Police administrators say the weekend sweep is just the start of a crackdown of illegal activity in strip clubs.
We are enforcing criminal law, Deputy Chief Jeff Kumorek said. This is part of an ongoing investigation that will continue.
Kumorek stressed the police activity at Shangri-La Gentlemens Club, Black Cherri Lounge, Honeys Gentlemens Club and Rising Sun has nothing to do with the citys legal efforts to restrict the businesses.
All four clubs are on Melton Road (U.S. 20) east of Lake Street.
Three women were arrested at Shangri-La, formerly the Caddyshack Lounge. <names deleted>
At Rising Sun, police arrested <name deleted>, 25, of Michigan City.
<name deleted>, of Hammond was arrested at Honeys, Jelks said.
No one was arrested at the Black Cherri Lounge.
Jelks, commander of the Narcotics Vice Unit, said he chose a handful of rookies to help with Saturday nights tour because his officers might have been recognized.
They did an excellent job of documenting the activities that resulted in these arrests, Jelks said.
The five rookies began their rounds late Saturday night. The arrests were completed early Sunday.
Some of the managers were very cooperative, Jelks said. They know its their duty to try to clean it up.
Miller residents have complained to the mayor and council members about prostitution and drug activity in and around the bars where women perform in little or no clothing.
After city officials developed a new set of tougher city ordinances for adult businesses, owners of several of those businesses successfully appealed, preventing the city from enacting those new guidelines, until they could have their case heard in court.
Owners claim new rules hold their business to stricter standards than other businesses.
Reach reporter Lori Caldwell at 881-3119 or by e-mail at lcaldwell@post-trib.com
I hate the Post Tribune.
Don't they have any thing better to report on?
It must be nice.. send a rookie out to get a BJ in the back of his car... Train him right....
Warpig2000
10-31-03, 00:26
SamaRy- I take solace in the fact that those asshole recruits are going to be riding in/ walking around Gary, and that bullets in Gary are probably coated in kryptonite that no body armor or badge can stop. Fuckers!!!! Our tax dollars at work
Ben Dover- I take exception with the Post Trib's moralistic stand on this but their article has 411 we need to take into account. Shit, the airport bookstore is probably under surveillance as well. We need to keep our guard up and even slanted reports from the town's editorially crippled scandle sheet are useful.
Hey Guys!
I know that most of us have given up on Hammond, but let me tell you what happened to me yesterday. I was on my way home from work driving down Calumet Ave., and what do I see? It appeared to be a WSW. She had on black pants and a black biker jacket. She was a skinny blond, her face was a little rough, but not as bad as those broads hanging out by Pete and Mabels. Believe it or not I got her to hop in my car in Kenny May's parking lot. She was basically cruising between 165th and 169th. Her name was Lisa and she suggested we do the deed in that Cemetary on 165th. Went in, she knew a good spot with good visibility and chance for escape if need be. Gave her $20 for bbbj; she didn't say a word and seemed happy. So after she did a good job and to completion I was feeling generous and gave her another $10.
FYI....Dawn (the Blonde) is still around. She also has a friend who I have met once named Deanne who is white, dark hair, slightly native american perhaps. Great body, good performance..although she did smell of pot a bit.
Happy hunting.
--Scooter
ChicagoBoy23
10-31-03, 15:30
Girls at All Dolls were laughing about the LE raids
Said cops were so easy tio ID it was ridiculous
Came in as group
All had same short haircuts
All were wearing same black cop shoes
Paid money at start of dance without being asked, would not touch the girls anywhere with their hands, then asked what could they get for more money.
good use of our tax dollars
Was passing through the area last weekend and decided to see what may be around the Sate Line Rd area in Cal City / Hammond. This used to be a good area to find girls. A girl I dated who was a bit of a nymphomaniac told me she would pick up guys there real easy- once sort of got busted when a undercover cop picked her up and took her to a hotel room. She said she was undressed and he asked about money and she told him she had thought he paid for the room and if she had known he had wanted money for it they could have gone to her place. Thing was sort of thrown out of court, but after breaking up with her could often crusie the area (this was 8 years ago) and easily find girls. Seems they have torn down a number of bars in the area and blocked off streets and made otehrs one way only to discouage such activity. Cruised around a bit adn as I was ready to call it quits saw what looked like a rather attractive WSW. Decided to circle around but when i got back she was being talked to by cops from both side of the Stae line so I figured it best to call it quits. Any idea where all the girls that used to hang out here went?
Member #4828
11-01-03, 15:42
Ralph,
Be careful over on State Line. LE has been running stings on and off there for quite a while now. It certainly is not the same as in past glory days; every now and then it's just nice to drive through and reminisce. Every now and again you'll see someone out on the street, just watch your back if you attempt any pickups.
Scooter.... Just a thought here...
This board is for info.. But with giving that much info you tip your hand to LE.... Because you can bet they are here and reading....
Ralph Alton
11-05-03, 19:48
Guys, any recent reports on the parking lot behind Bonanza on Rte 20. Used to be rich with lot lizards. Any recent takers?
Warpig2000
11-05-03, 20:06
Ralph Alton, were the Bonanza lot lizzards 4 wheeler friendly or did you have to be driving a rig?
Chicagoboy- All Dolls? Did you mean the Dollhouse? I thought that was in Hammond. If you are refering to another bar, let us know- The raids refered to in the article were at the Black Cherry, Honey's, Rising Sun and Shangri-la.
ChicagoBoy23
11-06-03, 11:01
Our Dolls - in industrial park off 80E in Hammond. I think is Calumet or Cline Ave.
Dancer told me about cops - not newspaper
I think LE only caught people at clubs mentioned but hit others
Never had anybody offer extras at Our Dolls. Their bouncers are very strict. I think they don't want to lose their liquor license.
Member #1974
11-06-03, 17:39
For Clarification:
Our Dolls is located just west of cline ave. exit cline Ave. south to the first street on the right back in a ways past dejavu'.
Never got extras-never asked. had one girl slip me the tongue in a private dance about 2-3 years ago. Think her name was Baby. She was a black girl who was a bit wild. Loved it. Never saw her there again. Had one other blonde girl (who also has a siter who worked(works) there) who recently had a kid (about one year ago) indicate she enjoyed watching sponge bob square pants while eating funions who asked if I was interested in similar activities. Although not what this site is about, it could have led to more for someone into that.(not my bag). Clean livin = clean lovin.
Now any word on Michelle's glorious return to EC? Or those worth visiting. We need new ports of call.
Member #1974
11-06-03, 17:44
Almost forgot!
Could have just been my eyes playingtricks on me, but I thought I might have noticed a LSW (not real pretty, little chunky, upper 30-early 40's)on route 41 near the skyway underpass in the spanish area. There are always people hangin out on the streets in this area. However, I have never noticed it before, so it probably isn't worth it for anyone to drive out of the way to investigate. I am not into SW scene so I can't get more info for anyone, but I will keep the peepers open for tell tale signs. Sorry.
Ralph Alton
11-06-03, 22:14
The lot lizards were 4-wheeler friendly. Almost aggressive, actually. Had to drive off to find a more secluded spot for the bbbjcim.
Been a while since dropping in and wondered if the action was still on.
Ralph...
I havent seen anything in that area for a long time... Still lizzards at the Truck stop.. but they are few and far in between....
And very 4 wheel un-friendly....
Not like a few years ago.....
Stopped by PS the other night, saw Miko. Looks, about a 7. Small B cups. Short massage, she went right to work. Not the worst experience, but nothing spectacular either. I've definitely had better there, but it did the job.
I've been cruising Broadway from 61st to 5th and Route 20 from Broadway to Portage for the last 2 months. Occasionally, there have been BSW on Broadway near 41st, as well as one WSW, but otherwise the only action is late night up near 5th. Along 20, things have changed dramatically. Nothing, and I mean nothing, outside of the R.I. That place has been busted or under such tight scrutiny that I wouldn't go near it.
On a side note, I ventured in to Pandora's two times. The girls there made it seem like I was in for a lot more than just a lap dance, and while I must admit that they were they best lap dances I've had (with the exception of the fact that the girls were about a 5 or 6), nothing more than a little tongue in ear happened. I thought for sure I was in for a little BJ action once the $ was shown, but nothing doing. The place is cheap if you pay the cover and drink a beer or two, but beyond that, forget it.
GrantBurger
11-11-03, 13:42
Was out in GI last night and saw NOTHING. NOTHING by the Royal Inn just nothing period but a bazillion squad cars, lol.
Yeah Grant,
It appears that the Mayor and Police Chief have decided that there will be no action in the Miller area. After the bust last time, I thought that they might leave the area alone, and I did actually see one girl out front obviously looking over the traffic. A squad swept in and carted her off. Last Friday, LE had a blonde along 20 by the adult bookstore (next to Ponderosa) and carted her off too.
They did their sweep through the clubs on the east side a couple of weeks ago and they're definitely maintaining a presence on the east side, so it appears that we had a brief "fun zone" that LE is determined to close down. I guess that since they can't change the drug and crime rates across the city, they'll target the sex trade in the city. Easy way to pad your crime statistics, I guess.....
Wow, the last 3 times I've made the Broadway from 53rd to Route 20 east through Portage run, nothing doing. Maybe when the warm weather returns next spring things will kick up again.
Time to move on to the East Chicago seen and see what's going on there.
You guys cracked me up with that LE joke about not being able to clean up drugs, etc. Sad, but true.
Good luck.
Went by PS on Friday evening. After two girls came in that didn't make me want to spend $$ I asked who else was there. To my surprise and pleasure Julie, younger cuter and hotter than the other two comes in I was ready to leave before that but after she came in we had a great time. Nice massage, CBJ, FS in three positions. Nice attitude. Would do her again
SeekPetite
11-17-03, 22:13
Drove to the Royal Inn today around 3:30pm. Nothing around. Made my first trip to the airport bookstore. Got Russian with Honey for a total of 33 bones, including one dollar for the jukebox. Drove back to Royal around 5pm. May of saw one (BSW) in the lobby, weired looking old guy peeping out the window at me. What would be a good time for the Royal?
I too have driven Route 20 lately and seen nothing, just like you guys.
I stopped at one of the strip bars, I think it was called Black Cherry. I got some decent mileage from dollars tips and was tempted to get a lapdance in the private booth. I was the only white guy there until another dude walked in. He had a short hair cut and boots. I decided not to risk anything in that place in light of all that has happened.
After the bar, I drove by the RI and saw a scary looking BSW in the loby. I passed on that too.
Wish I has some more cash flow and could hit the AMP again.
Member #1974
11-18-03, 19:04
HeyDude,
What else can you tell us about Julie. Looks, size, $? cupsize, etc. Gett'n board miss Michelle perhaps this could be a good replacement?
GrantBurger
11-23-03, 02:25
Who knew about the lot lizzards by the K-mart!? Oh well, too late for that now since that one bsw was crushed to death and the other one seriously injured by the semi they were hiding under. Seeing as that area has no open shops, seems like the police would have easy reason to pull you over for cruisin the lot. Also, was in EC last night, saw some VERY good lookin BSW's further down the street from P&M's near that bar on the corner.
was feeling a bit adventuresome last few days.
i stopped by the bookstore, met nikki: attractive face, but was larger than i had expected, also several tattoo's. i got 3 dances from her, (one would've been enough.) she showed my her natural french skills, (although a bit to brief), and finished with HJ. i was there less than 20min. talk about speedy service!!
the next day visited PS:
they have a new line-up: as i walked in one was entering a room, looked good from a distance, but as i got closer she looked kinda older. she was very thin too, i didn't get her name.
Nikko was sent to me, i passed as i wanted to she my other options. she wasn't too happy that i took a pass on her. Touhy was then sent in. not wanting to piss anymore off, i took her on. she gives a very good massage. best i've had there in awhile. nice bod too, but not like Michelle. the extras were nothing to write home about.
i don't know who the 4th gal is, as i was told there was no Julie. i did find out Laura is gone. also Touhy will be there for 10 more days.
and one other thing: whats with the lack of reports here? as i was arriving, someone was leaving and another guy was entering. none of these guys post? (apparently NOT!!) :)
Just wanted to say hi to everyone, and I have been reading the board for about 2 weeks, however I have gone and read the past like 60 pages. I went to P & M's last saturday the 22nd around like 8 oclock, and was curious if anyone was up there. Action wasnt much, except for some blonde bartender that I am guessing was "Vanessa?" wouldnt leave me alone, but I didnt cave in. Other than that, just some girl playing pool, missing about 3 or 4 teeth. Thanks for all the good info guys. And for anyone that is intimidated by the surroundings, I had no trouble and P & M's and I am as white as white can be lol.
Hi Member. Welcome to the board.
P & M is real hit or miss. Girls missing 3 or 4 teeth is typical. You always find those there.
You just need to drop in every now & then and hope you find a "part timer". A decent looking woman who only does this to pay a cell phone bill or this months rent. If you do get luck enough to find one, move fast. She won't last long.
If your watching a girl, check to see if she goes to the bathroom when a another girl goes in. That's where they smoke crack. Once one goes in, then all the other crackers follow like rats to an open garbage can.
Kanky Mofo
12-03-03, 16:13
Did the Miller/Gary I20 cruise for the first time (for business).
Actually stumbled onto it by mistake. If it wasn't for this board, I wouldn't have know exactly where I was until I saw the Royal Inn.
Anyway, saw 2 BSW about 12:00pm. One came ouf of RI and jumped into a big rig that pulled off. The other was a yella BSW that was just hanging in front of RI. Damn I was sooo tempted, but was not in the area for that.
On my trip back, I noticed some of the places that were discussed here. Like Black Cherry, Pandoras, and Rising Sun.
Any new action at these places since the raid??
I have seen a new AMP in michigan City but have not tried it as of yet. It is located where Osaska spa was on Rte421 just off I 94 at exit 34B. Has anyone tried it as of late? If so please post any info you might have.
Chicago Bob
12-04-03, 04:05
Hi everyone,
Just had a question about the bookstore. In this area that you are curtained off with the girl, do both of you undress? If so, does she ask you to or is it just something that is assumed? I want to check this place out tomorrow, but of course want to make it seem like I've been there before.
Thanks in advance!
Sorry man, you have to keep your clothes on!
's been a few months since my last visit, but you'll walk in, may have to be buzzed in, and there will be one or two girls in there. Feel free to approach them, they will ask you for a dance, 1,2,or3 songs at$20 a pop, $50 for 3. Then you go back to the curtained off area. It may be up to you to start the negotiations.
Honey is usually there during the day. She gives an excellent BBBJTC for $40. Never asked for any more so don't know where her limit is at. A little on the chunky side, but her huge tits make up for it.
Have fun be safe!
Gijoe
sorry this reply took so long. Julie: early to mid 20's , pretty face, nice lean body real b-cups, $$ for massage DATY and FS . I kept asking to see if there was another girl after not being happy with the other two (older, nowhere near as pretty).
ChicagoScott
12-08-03, 16:24
Hey Bob - did you ever make it to the Airport Bookstore? If so, how was the visit? I've been wanting to try this place out for some time now, but can't build up the balls to give it a shot.
Is it pretty safe? Any LE risk?
The BBBJTC from Honey sounds nice.
Member #1395
12-09-03, 18:06
Went to the Peking Spa for the first time in about 6 Months. Went at noon, usually a busy time, place was dead. Perhaps that is why the "Christmas Special" In addition to the usual $$, I was offered a second girl for an additional $. Was an absolute treat! YMMV, Mamasan remembered me and that I haven't been there in a while. Have fun!
TheShadow2
12-09-03, 20:55
Where exactly is the bookstore located? I'm thinking a little Honey might be sweet....
if you go to the book store in Gary acroos the airport NEVER SEE LADY!!!! She SUcks!!!!! Or should i say she doesent suck (if you know what I mean). 20.00for a dance 3.00 entrance fee 1.00 music fee and no action.
I usually see Honey butt she was busy, if you go there see her she gives a good job. And i havent been there in a couple of months and they both lost some weight but not skinny.
I made my first trip to the bookstore, it's on Rt. 20 across from the Gary Airport. Well, it's a dive, as was expected. Basically looks like a video store on the inside, with a small theater off to one side. There were 3 ladies and 2 men inside. I was charged a $3 "Looking" fee as I checked out the videos and tried to calm my nerves.
I purchased 2 dances from a heavy set white girl for $40, plus $2 for the jukebox. I guess she "danced" for one song, then offered French for $50. She gave me a CBJ with a lot of hand action, then finished me off with a HJ.
Disappointing, to say the least. I will not return.
Hi Guys,
I found another gem at P & M this weekend. A hot looking black girl named "T". She had at least an 8 body and an 8 or 9 face.
(she wasn't cheap either)
When we hooked up, she suggested I follow her to her house. A bit risky, but I would be careful. She lead me all the way out to the budget hotel area of Broadway. He house was on a side street just south of that area.
What was a bit un-nerving was thast her house was neat & clean, but her mom was there babysitting her two kids. Don't worry, she said, as she introduced me to her mom.
She lead me to her room and for $, everything was on the menu. CBJ, anal, rimming, etc.
I got her cell number, if someone wants to trade.
GrantBurger
12-20-03, 23:33
Saw zero action on Broadway in GI last night. Also, did see a few lot lizzards in the old K-Mart parking lot near the adult bookstore, past the royal inn. Speaking of which, saw what appeared to be a fine BSW in the hotel. Let's just say she had a good body, cuz I have seen fine lookin ones, and after further review they have tough faces, lol.
Carpe Dium
12-21-03, 17:08
Merry Xmas to all!
Kanky Mofo
12-22-03, 10:17
Fellas you got help me out with this one question: What would you do (or, what have you done) in a situation like this:
Saturday night, horny as hell looking for some action. Still a newbie to the whole game trying to locate a quick score, you find yourself at a bookstore you've been to a few times and each time you're so nervous you have stomach problems.
You finally get the nerve to select a girl for a VIP session. The price is right $50 plus one song (& a door fee). The girl is right in all the right places. Says she'll go FS fully nude.
You enter she begins stripping, your heart pounds with anticipation. You're on the verge of blowing your stack just from the dance. Panties off. She turns and says I don't have a condom do you? You don't. She says o.k., normally I'm safe, but it's cool and she begins sliding down on your pole.
keep in mind, the song is playing so if you go get a condom you will be paying for another song and who the hell knows what else.
She surprisingly does not smell or look like a skank. What do you do?
Hey all you PS guys out there. How about some reports on your latest visits? Anything in the last few weeks?
I have not been there for a while and I am thinking of a visit soon.
I have had some of my best amp times at Peking, but YMMV still applies. It always is easier if you can walk in with a name.
This board is not as current as it used to be. I know PS still gets several customers per day, and I am sure that most of them are reading this. Please post your reports, good and bad, with names!
Thanks guys.
flashman, was there about a week ago.. Saw a really boring mickey, if you get her stay away... , oh we so busy, I make it up to you next time...
Mommasan Hong has not been there around lately.. and the girls have been slipping on attitudes lately... But did get a 2 girl for price of one about 3 weeks ago. Cathy and Miko?? ...
Kanky,
Sorry to hear of your mistake. You need a thorough testing, even if you don't have a wife or s/o and even if you exhibit no symptoms. No stench/skank does not equal no disease. ALWAYS WRAP. As a side note you can contract these and others even if you are wrapped. Please be more careful.
Hey Guys....
Happy Holidays & all that.
Sorry, but I got to b i t c h for a while.
I try to post as best I can. Even when I have nothing to write about. I guess not seeing anything or not seeing anythign worth tapping is an observation. And all observations are worth posting, right?
Anyway, recently I have got a bunch of PM from people I never saw posting asking to "hook them up" with info & numbers .
Have people forgotten what "trade" means? What makes you think you can lurk in the background and just ask for stuff to help you out and not offer anything in return?
I know everyone has to start somewhere, but try to be fair in this game.
Sorry, but I just had to vent.
GrantBurger
12-24-03, 01:36
LOL, if she's workin in that place then she is a skank you goof, lol. And all it takes is a lil soap, water, and a washrag to make her stuff not smell, come on now, stop playin lil what if games.
Kanky Mofo
12-24-03, 11:05
O.K. Timmy and Grant. I am new not brand new.
Again, I am asking what would you do or what have you done in the same situation?
Kanky,
You may not be brand new, but you act like it. How about opting for a bbbj or hj. The bbbj is not totally safe, but it is much safer than what you did.
I wonder how many guys are going to post similar stories about little miss normally safe now.
Oh here it comes...
I am the ghost of Christmas I wish I had wrapped my package....
NE Indiana
12-27-03, 09:09
Kanky,
Bookstore? Where are we talking? I love skanky broads that smell a little. If they put on a good show, I'll dive right in. Always on the lookout for new places to try.
Thanks
Warpig2000
12-27-03, 21:57
Friday The 26th- Early Saturday Morning report
Got to NW Indiana LATE and found only one or two BSW's worth looking at on Broadway. Had a particular girl at the Red Dragon who sounded open to off premises encounters in mind but the place was closed by the time I got there, Likewise P&M's. No girls were hanging in the vicinity of P&M's after closing. Visited the airport bookstore for the first time and it does have potential but the one 'dancer' still working didn't intrest me. Looks like the hours have expanded since this summer and I will probably be checking it out again.
Went for some visual stimulation at Our Dollhouse and then left to look at the old Hammond Strolls. Conkey was dead, so was State Line/ Hohman. Saw one lady, 30ish, sitting on a bench on the park as I cruised by, got a glance but no nod or wave so I beat it out of there.
Figure most of the ladies must have been suffering from post Christmas hangovers.... there was nothing out there to be had.
Kanky Mofo
12-29-03, 11:13
NE, I'm referring to the bookstore near the Gary Airport. If you do a search here you should find enough info. Well, at least I did.
I did go this past weekend and some dancer there was the laziest, flabbies broad I've seen there so far. Yes, I did the dance, cuz I didn't want to wait around or come back.
The most exciting thing about the dance was before hand when she was explaining the theatre area to me. I never noticed it before. what goes on in there? she was trying to explain it to me, but was so damn negative, I couldn't comprehend.
she said there are usually ts, tv, couples and all kind of shit going on back there. I was so fucking curious, I almost left her standing there.
My fear however, is there are only ts, tv back there, I would hate to kick someone's ass in that joint. The owner's look like they don't tolerate any b.s. so if anyone has any info, please advise.
Separately, on my way to the bookstore, I passed what was either 2 sheriff cars tailing each other (heading north) or it was Gary's finest. They went right passed the store and pulled in a vacant lot about a 1/4 mile north.
Be careful fellas, I think the sting is on. It's a good thing buying porno books and fantasizing about the dancers is legal.
Stay safe.
Member #4921
12-31-03, 11:50
What road is this bookstore on? I only know about the Michigan St. theater, right by the Rising Sun. But they have no live dancers at the theater, and it's pretty much all gay men. Never seen lot lizards there.
Is it the Broadway Adult Books? That's all I can find with yellowpages. What exit off 80 (I come from Chicago)?
Indy Greek
01-02-04, 01:44
I found the bookstore by taking the 20 West through Gary. When the 20 splits to the left followed by a quick right, keep going straight. It's just a little way up on the right, across from the airport. Sorry I don't know directions from Chicago, but that should help.
Indy Greek
Vinny Voom
01-02-04, 23:33
Anyone know when Michelle will return to PS? How about Mickey & Codey? Where did they go?
VV
The road is US 12 (Columbus Drive coming out of East Chicago). If you know where the Trump and Majestic boats are in Gary. Come out the exit and go south (left) at the first light. The first light south is Columbus. Turn left (east) under Route 912 (Cline Avenue) and you'll find the airport. The bookstore is at the east end of the airport. The intersection is Clark Road at US 12 (Columbus Drive).
Good luck.
Speaking of PS, haven't heard anything here of late. I have been planning a trip there, the first in some time due to lack of reliable transportation, but would appreciate some first hand reports about the chicas there now. If no info is forthcumming, I shall have to venture into the "unknown" and take my chances.
Vinny Voom
01-04-04, 18:12
quote: Originally posted by Bukake
I went to the AMP in Munster as well. Total rip-off. don't wast your money. Not even an HJ
"I went there when it first opened, with the same disappointment. Seoul Spa advertises in the Sun Times along with the other spas though. Either they DO offer extra services with some kind of secret code, etc., or they don't and are unfairly giving the illusion that they do, but are charging $80 for strictly a message. AVOID THIS PLACE!"
Ok, so it's been about a year and Seoul Spa in Munster is still OPEN! How can this be? Given our posts here there can't be many repeat customers. Have we missed something? I see a car/truck or two there all the time. The place is minutes away from me. Nobody is going to pay $80 for a straight massage. (Not twice anyway).
Can anyone shed some light on this place?
VV
Member #1974
01-05-04, 12:04
Weeble 400,
Michigan St. Theater does seem to have quite a few gay men around.(proabably rather normal for any movie theater) During my first (and only) visit there, I was watching a nice movie trying to relax and relieve some of the days stress. Of course someone next to me kept trying to get me to put my little friend in the glory hole. Not interested! I put my foot up on the hole to give him a clue still no luck. Finally left with same stress.
So pray tell, what is app pro pro for dealing with unwanted advances from the glory hole? Leave, say not interested, or gently insert penis into mouth and bite firmly? Any advice? :)
The bookstore is visible from the toll way just east of the airport. THis visual will help you find it once you get onto route 12. It is a bit of a dive, and for just a bit more, you can go to PS, which is much much nicer. (True it is about double, but worth it)
Now is it just the time of the year that is causing a slow down in reports, or are there other facotrs. Guys lets start reporting so we can all enjoy.
Vinny Voom, I hear ya, but I went to the AMP in highland and also to the MUNSTER one 2 times, nothing even close to extras.....
Anyone else ?
Vinny Voom
01-05-04, 23:49
I went to Osaka Spa in Michigan City today and saw Kim. Best looker there in a while, she just started there. 28 yrs old, slender. I give her about a 7 for looks. $80 for 1/2 hour message and "Happy Ending". Would go back for FS!
I went to the Highland place three times and only got one HJ (dumb). I left the Muster place when I saw the cameras and lack of doors. I saw some guy getting his back walked on when I was there. (Wonder if it was any of yous.)
I'd like to ask for some info about Mickey from PS. What she looks like, approx age, etc. Also if she has talked about any previous establishments she has worked at in the past. The Mickey I know worked in Michigan and Bloomington, IL in the past, and I'd like to know if it may be the same girl (though I know it's long shot). She was about 30, shorter black hair, well toned, enhanced chest, wore a gold type chain around her belly. Any help is appreciated, thanks.
Islay-
By Michigan, do you mean Saginaw?
(If so, I remeber a Mickey from Saginaw....Fuij Spa I think.....she was GREAT!.)
TheShadow2
01-07-04, 15:58
BenDover and Islay,
From my research, the Micki in question was once at Fuji, and Tokyo in Bloomington. Apparently back in Michigan now, private message me if you want any more details...
Ralph Alton
01-07-04, 21:29
Vinny, that was $80 total or just for the 1/2 hour. If not what was the 1/2 hour charge and what was the tip?
Vinny Voom
01-07-04, 23:42
$80 TOTAL. No tip.
Impressive Shadow, have you seen her recently? I don't need any details beyond that, Michigan is too far for me to drive. And yes she was fantastic, those were the days.
TheShadow2
01-08-04, 07:32
Islay,
Nope, haven't seen her since Bloomington. Too far for me too...
(I did send you a private message regarding her...)
Thanks Shadow...
I don't mean to say you smell like bacon, but thats some damn fine detective work.
Our Michigan board needs some help. I didn't even know there was a AMP north of Jackson.
Ralph Alton
01-08-04, 22:33
Swung by PS and spent an hour with "Jay". A few things need to be said up front.
1st, she is absolutely knock-down beautiful with a great body, nice tits with perky nipples, long gorgeous hair, and a face that is beautiful and youthful.
2nd, She has a very pleasant personality and was "willing to please."
I offered her 1.6$ for everything. She said that would only get bj. She was adamant that fs would be $$. I only had another .2 on me. She said "ok," for just this one time.
Guys, she's the best I've ever had... period! Don't miss out on this!
based on Ralph's recommendation i visted PS last nite, and must concur with him. she's very attractive and has very soft hands and gave a good massage. she said she's been there 3 weeks and may leave soon because she's working too much. :( shame too, cause i'd hope she get more comfortable with me with repeat visits.
i wasn't able to see what who else was working.
when i arrived it was slow, but as i was leaving it started to get crowded.
Slag Runner
01-10-04, 12:10
gi,
As you may have noted from my past postings, I have occasionaly visited adult bookstore arcades and adult theaters in the past with SW "dates". They are convenient venues for practicing the hobby since I do not like having sex in a vehicle and getting a hotel room is not always practical. I have never had a problem doing this in Tampa, Baltimore, Dallas, Houston, Chicago (including Northwest Indiana), Edmonton, Vancouver or Toronto.
I believe that the majority of patrons who visit these establishments without a female partner are bi-sexual or gay. That does not make them dangerous. I have had occasions where I have shared my date and had a hell of a wild time. I have also experienced instances in which apparently gay guys were resentful but non intrusive over my bringing a date into their domain and stealing away the straight or perhaps bi-sexaul prospects that they were attempting to engage with.
Bottom line is that most people who go to an adult bookstore have real lives elsewhere and can ill afford to be arrested due to some altercation at the local XXX theater complex. I have told guys to mind their own business (sometimes forcefully) when I view their behavior as annoying or even an infringmeent on my pursuit of enjoyment and they have always complied without attitude or retribution.
SR
Kanky Mofo
01-11-04, 23:47
I took a trip to the library Friday night. Nothing to shake a stick at, so I didn't partake in any extracurricular activities. I did, however, viist the theatre area and there was just a very older white couple and a bunch of guys. I stayed for all of 30 secs.
My spidy senses was telling me this is a homo stop so I passed.
..stay tuned
Slag Runner
01-12-04, 21:45
Went for a ride around the historically productive neighborhood on either side of State Line Avenue in Calumet City last Thursday night. After a three hour tour interspersed with a few beer breaks I had seen a grand total of two undoable SWs and one maybe. I pounded the area from Wentworth all the way over to Calumet Avenue and State Street South to Conkey. I ventured North on Calumet to the Skyway and back down Hohman. For several years in the eighties and nineties this area was the most productive hooker patch in the midwest. No more.
I finally picked up a HSW named Yvette at Memorial and Wentworth at about 1:00 AM. She was as nervous as a long tailed cat in a room full of rockers. At first I thought she was paranoid from drug use but she was just petrified over being busted for prostitution. She had been drinking but was not wasted and claims not to do drugs.
Went to a motel on Torrance at the X-way and had a very pleasant hour together for $40. Very nice body and good technique with a customer service awareness that was refreshing. She gave me her digits but laid out all kinds of ground rules on when to call and what to say if she did not answer the phone. She lives with a sister and brother-in-law who are unaware of her avocation.
SR
I picked up a WSW on Friday night at about 2 AM. I was nervous as hell; she was calm and collected. She wanted me to go into her house with her, but I suggested she just give me a BJ while I drove around. $20, BBBJTC.
LE was all over the place, I drove about 2 blocks off of Broadway before asking her if she needed a ride. She said sure and got in.
She was maybe mid-30s, dark hair, nice build. Broadway in Gary near 40th. She was more than adequate, no hands, very enjoyable.
Now I'm just scared to death that I picked up an STD!
I forgot to mention, before stopping on Broadway, I had made the run between Portage and I65 on Route 20. I saw a WSW heading west in front of the Ponderosa. She walked into the lot behind the sex shop and started approaching the semis. This was about 1:30 Friday night. She looked a little too good to be true. Black leather skirt, blondish curly hair, leather jacket and boots. I decided it reeked too much of LE and left it go.
GrantBurger
01-15-04, 12:30
Hey,
Was out the other night and noticed like 4 bsw's right off Broadway on 23rd, prolly crackheads though.
Anyone been to the AMPs in Valpo? Seen some post awhile back, but think both places are under new management. I think one got busted, on Calumet and is Suki now. Would you pronounce that Sue - kee or Suck - ee? You can PM me if you want. Going out that way on Sat.
Thanks
Travel Time
01-15-04, 14:19
Gentlemen,
I am a new poster and apreciate the work you have all done. A quick blurb of my last adventure.
Last Tuesday:
1 BSW at 80 and 41 nasty looking and I would not touch her with a ten foot pole.
Went to 'Rising Sun' in Miller. I am pretty sure that at least one of the girls was working. She scheduled an appointment to meet with me at her hotel. I got there about 20 minutes earlier and noticed a guy was staying in her room. I did not want to get robbed so I split.
Pand M's dead at about 9:30. That place is funny and scary at the same time.
What is the "Theatre"?
TT
I have been a hobbyist and reader for a long time and thank all of you for information that has been very helpful to me. Now I am a member and believe it is payback time,meaning I need to contribute. I was at the bookstore right before the holidays. FS is possible, but I think they evaluate you carefully first. They are very casual at admitting anything is available and you might have to ask what is available first. But even before that, you should evaluate the talent and decide if it is worth paying for, because you will pay (more than the talent and time is worth- in my view). If not, it is just a regular adult bookstore.
Pickings have been lean even at PS. I stopped in last weekend, the place was dead but Mamasan set me up with a broad who said her name was "Anna". Turned out to be Sonia who has been mentioned here before with mixed reviews. She got the job done but really was not $$ material, IMHO. I think it is time to start ferreting out greener (or pinker) pastures.
Ump and Gentleman,
Ump, you are right about the girls at the bookstore being cautious, and who can blame them? I half expect them to get closed down at any moment.
But I have to disagree about the quality of the service. Maybe I’ve just been lucky, but in my humble opinion I’ve never had a better bbbjcim than with Honey. She is masterful. Maybe she just does what I like, but holy cow, she can suck the chrome off the proverbial fender. It’s a perfect combination of tongue, suction, lips, hands, and rhythm. Literally, the best I’ve ever had.
And the fs ain’t bad either. Big titties and a tight pussy are a combination I appreciate. And she gets into it. On the other hand, you’re on a stage covered with a blue plastic tarp (LOL).
Bend It
Nelson Muntz
01-17-04, 00:41
Some time ago I posted about a WSW named Chris I picked up on State Line just south of St. Margarets hospital.
Chris is back, she is staying across from the new Stracks on Sibley.
Chris is around 50 yrs old, chunky, long dishwater blonde hair and about a 4 on the SW scale. She is however, college educated and gives the best BBBJTC that I've ever had. She's really down on her luck and needs some financial assistance. I'm glad to help her twenty bones at a time. (yes, I tipped too)
Be nice to her, she's a keeper.
Happy hunting,
Nelson
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