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04-10-02, 04:45
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Todd
04-12-02, 09:24
Wow!! I got in. After reading Jackson's reasons for changing this format, I fully agree with the changes he has made. It the long run it should greatly enhance the board. Thanks Jackson.

At Executive, the girl I had used the plastic glove and started to do the hj with it on, but as I was unresponsive, she then took it off and gave me a bbhj. :)

They do not use plastic gloves at the Station.

Let's get some postings and get this new formate rolling.

Disco
04-12-02, 19:13
Me and My friend have been to the Cat's Den twice during the last two weeks. Neither of us have been able to negotiate anything more than a normal massage. Do we need to just keep going back untill they get to know us, or is there some secret that we need to know. Thanks for any info you can share with me.

Don
04-12-02, 19:23
I'm in shock you guys did'nt get anything at cats' den i've been there about 10 times and ALWAYS got at least a hj although only had meagan and mandy who gave fs although that took several times of just hj. Meagan was strictly hj. maybe something changes or they won't do it for just anybody but Meagan told me they all do hj and they all know each other does it.

also guys what other girls give fs at dee's other than dee who i've had thanks.

Moneyshot
04-13-02, 05:03
first post here, went to both mp in warsaw no luck there. bobby at cats den and misty at dating dynamics, but it was around 4-5 pm but cats would be a lot easier to get fs. no 70 yrs old granny working there, happy hunting.

thebig1
04-20-02, 10:41
love the new board! went to executive last week, about 4 girls working all like 4's, was dissapointed but i picked one anyway and got a half hour. half massage and then asked about extras, offered h/j and topless h/j. asked about reverse and she said no. overall i'm just about done with executive, girls are getting worse, attitudes are going south also. going to relaxation and trying angie or linda, any advice on how to get reverse from these two?

Todd
04-22-02, 08:53
Hey TheBig1, I suggest at the Station you try Angie. You need to call ahead and get an appointment because she is very busy (that should tell you something about her service). Get the hour. She is very nice and easy going. She will start to massage your legs, working her way up to your butt. Just small talk with her and talk about how you love massage and love giving them. See if she responds. If she does, then I suggest you have her do 20 minutes massaging your back, you do her back and front and back for 20 minutes and then have her finish with 20 minitues.

If she does not respond directly to your comment about loving to give massage, I would just let her massage you, she will do topless hj anyway. Then as you leave, say, "Maybe next time I can also give you a little massage."

Angie does one of the best hj I've had. She really knows how to do it right. Be aware that I've been seeing her for years and we are very comfortable with one another. She will not do bj or full service, but she is great at what she does, is cute and has a very nice attitude.

Treat her well, please.

thebig1
04-22-02, 12:52
i think i will try out angie at relaxation for sure. I was at a lingerie modeling place this weekend getting some movies and saw that they have cameras set up and taping the lingerie modeling rooms. thought this was kinda strange and was wondering if the massage places do any video taping of clients or massages. don't want my white a-- showing up on the net or something.

thanks for info todd, how old is angie??

Todd
04-24-02, 15:34
Angie is about 28 years old, but looks much younger. She is very pretty and has a nice attitude. I've always been pleased with her and her service and I have been seeing her for years. Enjoy.

thebig1
04-24-02, 17:02
hey todd: how much should I expect to pay for an hour with angie? I am going to make an appointment for next week and just want to make sure I take correct amount of money. and always angie is discreet correct? thanks for the info!! I will let you know how it goes.

Todd
04-25-02, 08:54
Angie is very discreet and I trust her completely. As I said, I've been seeing her for years.

You will pay Angie after the session. I believe the rate is $60 for a hour. I usually tip her a $20 or 40 on top of the $60, but she has never asked for the extra. I just really appreciate her and her style.

Hope it goes well for you. As I said, Angie is very nice and provides a very nice sensual massage, but not FS. So be nice to her and you'll leave feeling very good in body and spirit.

thebig1
04-25-02, 10:34
todd: thanks for the info. I am going to be making an appnt here really soon depending on my schedule. don't worry I will be nice to her, she sounds like a good therapist. I will let you know how it goes.

this new forum is kewl, but looks like me and you are only ones contributing to this as there are over 1000 views and 11 posts now, wish more people would contribute on here.

Todd
04-25-02, 15:27
TheBig1, have you tried any escorts in Ft Wayne and, if so, were the results good? I look for a full GFE from nice girls.

Disco
04-25-02, 18:47
Went to the Cat's Den in Warsaw. This was my third trip in less than a month. I've never recieved more than a massage. Lovely ladies, but they don't seem to be intereted in provideing any more services.

Fox
04-26-02, 11:29
hey guys! im finally loged in, i used to be "ram" but someone ripped off my handle..now im "fox" anyway linda @ excutive
pretty cool, i would recommend her although i didn't get fs
it was still good...can anybody tell me where the station is??,
& hey disco, sounds like your doing somthing wrong..your not
singing disco tunes to them are ya? just kidding.

thebig1
04-26-02, 11:35
fox,
relaxatoin statoin is just down the road from executive. in my opinion executive needs all new girls, they are getting bad attitudes and not giving you your money's worth. if they get some new people i will try em out again, but for now i am switching to relaxation station. good luck

Fox
04-26-02, 12:08
im not sure what you mean by down the road but i will search..
anyone you recommend? any fs? thanks big1

Happy
04-26-02, 18:22
Hi everyone, I am also back. My last visit was to HBM where I saw Ruby again. She is extremely pleasant and will do reverse shower if you pay the tip up front. Tip amount depends what you are looking for, $100 max for anything.

She is very nice and will spend the full time with you.

Anyone been to Dee's lately, what is the action like there, do they have the same girls?

This town is in need of new talent badly, I won't go t executive anymore, Linda has to be the best of any of them!

Anyone tried Linda @ Relaxation lately? She gives a great massage and I guess she is into extras.

Haven't been to four seasons in about 5 months, what are the ladies like in their now, any young good lookers with exceptional service?

opher232
04-27-02, 00:14
where is HBM located?

opher232
04-27-02, 00:21
happy did you get fs from ruby?

Happy
04-28-02, 10:06
Opher232,

I was a continuous poster on the old forum. I have noticed that there are alot of hits with few posts on the new board.

I have adopted a physophy that I will not answer anyones questions unless I know they have submitted reviews on a board.

Unfortunately, I don't know where the search function is, so I can't check your other posts to see if you are a contributor or lurker.

As soon as I find out you are a contributor to the boards, I will be happy to answer any of your questions.

Don
04-28-02, 20:22
Whaqts up in fort wayne were there some raids. went on sat. around 6:00p.m. Dees was shut nobody there sign in building still had them there although the name on the door was gone. Rainbow spa looked closed did'nt stop , Executive was closed dark and door locked hbm was closed and four seasons was open slthough had sign tghat you HAD to go through back door. whats the deal. Got rushed hj at four seasons from 30 or aso asian for $40 felt around a little but was'nt allowed much. wanted $140 tip for fs uh uh she was'nt that hot.

thebig1
04-28-02, 20:46
good to see ya back happy!! went to see lori at executive and she wan't there, picked a girl about a 4, dissapointment! going to relaxation next week will let everyone know how it goes.

Executive closes at 4 or 5 pm now on saturdays, so that is why they were closed. dee's hours are kinda sporadic from my experience, as far as HMB goes don't know anything about them and haven't heard about any raids in awhile now.

I agree with happy, either post or get off the table! I would love to hear about other guys experiences on here, so lets all add in!

Fox
04-29-02, 12:15
do any of you guys ever get busted or caught at a raid??
just looking for a heads up.

Happy
04-30-02, 23:16
Where is everyone,

Sorry I can't give any reports right now, I've been out of circulation for a couple of weeks.

Let's talk it up boys, I'd like to know what is happening so I know where to go next week.

Thinking about Dee's, don't really like the place that well, not the cleanest, but, the service can be superb.

jackhand47
05-02-02, 09:44
Gentleman:

Was in FW for business yesterday. Made better time than anticipated. So, with time to spare, I decided - why not relax a little. Right? Went to Four Seasons Health Club. What a pit. Had a crock pot stewing with who knows what. Old mama san finally comes to the door and I ask for Lee (someone recommended her earlier). She not there, naturally. Got Sue instead. What a *****. Took half hour at 40. Got perfunctory shower, sauna and rub. She chewed and snapped gum during entire session. Wanted 40 more for HJ. Told me also full service was $200.00. Said her place was expensive. Told her she was rediculous and left.

Have been to many AMPs - this was the worst.

Next time will try the other places next to and around the corner from this one based upon other postings.

Have fun.

Jackhand47

OhYeah
05-05-02, 20:10
Made the rounds the last few weeks and I can offer the following :

Dee's: Had Anna for a half hour. Worked like crazy to get a topless HJ. Can't imagine what it will take for more, other than maybe becoming a regular.

Executive Health : Clean and safe but not a lot of fun. HJ for sure but nothing else. Linda is older but fun. Lori is heavy but pleasant. Jenny tries but needs to lose at least 30. Ella has great tits, but good luck getting her shirt off. These girls are just too mechanical....not spontaneous.

Four Seasons: EVERTHING available. Clean safe. Forget Sue..bad attitude. If Lee or Angie are not availble, leave.

Rainbow: HJ for sure, but the only girl is too old, and will rush you out ASAP.

OK, having said all that, I need some solid info on Relaxation Station before I go in.

uncleroy
05-06-02, 09:58
Went to the Executive Health over the weekend. Everything was fine Got a great hj from Ella. It did take a lot of work to get her go toppless. She does have great tits. She did use latex gloves which was really strange. Will probably go to Dees next of the Cats Den in Warsaw. Any info would be great..

05-07-02, 05:10
FYI. Lee is no longer at Four Seasons. Moved to California around LA. Angie replaced her. Angie does a very relaxing FS and has a very enjoyable personality. I don't know if Ruby is Still at HBM or not. She was the best they had and if she got to know you, she would do just about everything you asked. The Rainbow is a waste of time. Only one old lady who thought she still had what it takes. Tried the Executive and was disappointed. For the life of me, I don't understand what thrill you can get out of a Topless HJ with latex gloves. If I'm going to pay out good money, Ill stick with the FS places. Haven't tried Dee's yet . Maybe next time I'm In town. Kokomo is a dried up town.

thebig1
05-07-02, 18:18
I would have to agree on executive, they are going to be out of business here soon in my opinion!! a hand job with rubber gloves is almost worse than doing it yourself in my opinion, and everyone that goes there would have to agree there attitudes have gone down some also, too bad Renee is gone :(

On another note, does anyone have any info on escorts or independents that will entertain cples, g/f and I like to play on occasion together and looking for a female escort to entertain use! any info would help guys, and I know this isn't usual type of question on here, but hey, you guys are the best!!

hope to have info on relaxation next week if schedule ever clears up!!

opher232
05-07-02, 18:27
Is Angie at Four Seasons Asian or white? What is the house fee for an hour and what is her fee for FS.

I'm planning on going there this weekend - will report back.

THANKS ALL!

05-07-02, 18:39
Angie ar Four Seasons is an Asian. House Fee is 40 for half hour and 60 for an hour. FS can be had for 140.00.

OhYeah
05-08-02, 09:35
Gemini is absolutely correct. I still need some reliable info on Relaxation Station....help !!

thebig1
05-09-02, 11:46
went to try to get in at relaxation statoin wtih angie, she was all booked up for the whole day!! decided try executive agian and got lori. Nice looking blonde, with a nice body. started to massage and I told her I used to see renee there and she right then took the towel off. Nice massage, treid to get reverse but she said she wasn't into that. got topless h/j WITHOUT gloves for 60. would say lori is only one to go to at executive.

ftwayne25
05-10-02, 10:18
Massage parlors: I've also seen Lori at Executive and had a good time. She is a little chunky, but cute (I haven't been to any of the places this year.) I'm sorry to hear what has happened to Executive, wonder if there is increased LE, I know there was a story on the local news last year about condomns being found outside around Executive.

Escort services: Have found FS on 3 out of 4 calls to local agencies (don't remember which ones). I believe $125 agency + 100-150 tip for total $225-$275 each time. Was one girl named Candy, blonde, late thirties, terrific body, wish I would have gotten her phone number. Does anyone know her? Does anyone have any insight on girls working with the local services?

Miscellaneous: There was a yahoo group named "Fort Wayne Escort Connection", I'm not sure if it still exists that would give contact info for escorts traveling to Fort Wayne. Average girls, high prices IMHO.

Lingerie show: Stay away from visual enjoyment, no contact, $$, worse than a decent lap dance and much more expensive.

Strip club scene: I knew a girl at Stewies (Cassie) who would grind me to completion, but she isn't there anymore.

Does anyone know any girls at the strip clubs that will get up close and personal during a lap dance?

thebig1
05-10-02, 11:03
the lori I saw was the Lori that works during the day, she is about late 30's great butt and tits, really nice body, blonde. I know the other lori and she is kinda chunky, so lori during the day is the one to see. also angie at relaxation that is in the same building on the other side is nice and cute also.

relaxation station in kendlleville is giving free massages today 5-10-02 from 12 to 6 from what I was told at relaxatoin in fort wayen, might be worth a try!!

Todd
05-14-02, 09:56
Hey Big1, I told you you would have to call for an appointment with Angie. Remember guys, the best place to eat is where you have a hard time getting in. Those who want more info on Relaxation, what do you want to know??? There is NO F/S there, but Angie will give you the best sensual massage you could ask for and will do reverses once she gets to know you a bit.

Don't be afraid to call and make an appointment. Some of you guys are hard for me to understand. Happy hunting. (Hey, what more can I do for you?)

thebig1
05-14-02, 11:00
hey todd, I understand about the appntmnt with angie, I thought if I stopped by I could get an appntment for later in the day, called the next day and she was booked up also, I am going to make an appntment for a week in advance here soon!! what do you know about wendy or tina that work days???

Todd
05-14-02, 17:34
I don't know who tina is and I'm not sure who wendy is either. If wendy is the medium to heavier build 30 something blond, I would avoid her. Sorry, but I've stuck with Angie. When I'm up again I'll ask Angie about the other girls who work there. I wouldn't be surprised if this were Angie's last year of work there. I will miss her dearly.

Happy
05-14-02, 21:26
Hello Everyone,

Your questions on Wendy and Tina, Wendy is the dark haired gal on days who does the hiring. Not a bad build, not an Angie either. Operates very similar to Angie, maybe more. Tina is the heavy set blonde, nice person but not I'm looking for.

I had a bad session a while back with Lori, has she loosened up any lately? Couldn't get a reverse the last time, haven't seen her in a couple of months.

Stopped by Dee's a couple of weeks ago, doesn't look like they are their anymore, anyone know what happened or if they are still in business?

Recently visited Toledo, had a great visit at the Rainbow, they were slow when I was in, ended up with two girls for the price of one. Very interesting experience, well worth the while.

Anyone know who is working at HBM now? Last time I was in it was Ruby and Bebe, both good experiences with reverse showers.

Talk it up guys, share your experiences!

Huteh
05-15-02, 11:35
Happy--

Glad you had a good time in Toledo. Thats where Im originally from but work brought me to FW. When you went to Rainbow what were the women like?? I tried there once but they were all too old. Theres a great place on Airport Highway called Airport Health Spa and one called Yoko Health Spa. The service has always been great (offer FS with all the trimmings) at both and girls are from 6's to 9's depending. If you get a chance to go back you should try those spots.

As far as FW goes I havent had a chance to get out much to the places around here... you gotta work too hard for it. Ha ha ha. I've read to where guys have to go back a couple of times b4 anything happens and at most you can get HJ's. Oh well... maybe the places around here will lighten up someday.

Well... thats all for now. Peace.

Fox
05-17-02, 11:27
hey guys..fs at hbm very good 140 got me there with bee bee,
k-ville spa mee mee offers fs 160 + 40 gets in both of these girls
are hot orientals..there ya go guys have fun..does anyone no
of any action in angola or auburn????

im out...fox

BuckeyeMale
05-17-02, 14:39
to all the people who are regulars at the relaxation station...there used to be a very busty female named maxine that used to work nights (probably well over a year ago)...does anybody know is she works in the area and if so where...this woman gave an incredible massage....i am moving back to the area and would love to track her down...any info would be greatly appreciated...or if the next time u visit the station if someone does not mind asking...thanks for the help

Happy
05-19-02, 08:42
Wake up people! Let's do some sharing. I haven't had a chance to test the waters lately and wondered if anything was changing. The last bit info I had was aboout Relaxation, Wendy said they would probably be hiring someone new soon, Has this happened?

Still wondering about Dee's, have they closed? Anyone know of any new parlors? Is Ruby still @ HBM?

For a great massage you really need to see Linda @ Relaxation, she does a wonderful massage, nice extras once you get to know her.

Out for now!

stevealluna
05-21-02, 21:21
Went to Cats Den in Warsaw last night and there were two girls working. Mandy and Erica. Iv gotten massages from both and both will be handy. you can get more but they need to know ya alittle by seeing them a few times. Both are young about 19ish and cute. the " massage" is really just lotion sprayed on you but their cuteness makes up for that. Ill go back in a couple of weeks or so. Mandy is blonde and Erica is hispanic...Have fun all!!

Don
05-22-02, 20:28
Went to HBM great expierience was'nt bebe or ruby or sue? young about 28 small tits but did it all for 100 plus the 40 to get in. FS licked my balls awesome expierience she said bebe went to New York and probably won't be back. Ruby gone too Catr's den might get fs from Mandy i used too but she was reluctant last time since she now has a b/f Dee's is closed did'nt get busted but shut down although gal said she might start working at cat's den again.

Happy
05-22-02, 20:45
Thanks Don

I am going to try one of the places again soon. I would like to try someone new so it may have to be HBM. Have you ever tried Unlimited Health? All I can get is an answering machine, never have been able to talk to anyone.

Hopefully Executive gets some new people soon, they have really gone down hill lately. Not very friendly.

If you haven't tried a massage by Linda at the Station, you should give it a try, best massge I ever had, extras can be decent also.

Don
05-27-02, 20:00
Tried Erika at cats den gave nice hj for 20 tip let me rub her butt but no touching her pussy. Mandy as i've said before i've gotten fs from. Erika at first gave me the oh no we don't do that but gave in i'd be surprised if you caould get more but maybe after several visits. Dee's as i said is closed HBM is the place in the fort.

Happy
05-29-02, 20:19
Visited HBM last night, good to see Ruby is still their along with Sue and Angie. Angie is a new girl, very nice with an excellent body. Gentlemen, you can't go wrong with any of these ladies. Not sure how long they will all be there, seems to have a pretty good turn over here. Nice for those that like variety!

Anything new at Executive or the Station? Has Lori @ Executive loosened up yet, good looking lady, used to be a great visit?

Sure wish everyone would join in and share, could be very informative to everyone!

Member #4828
05-29-02, 21:47
What and where is HBM?

uncleroy
05-30-02, 10:21
Was At HBM yesterday during the afternoon. I saw Angie, but there was a petite young girl there also. Angie was ok, but just wondering if anyone knows who the other one might be? When I asked for her I was told she wasn't available. I did get a nice hj from angie. She has a great body.

uncleroy
05-30-02, 10:26
HBM is located off Dupont Road in a shopping center. Look in the sports section of the Ft Wayne paper. THey usually run an ad with directions.

Fox
06-04-02, 15:39
is there more than just massage joints in this town, what about
strip clubs or bars or just some chick somone knows....come on
guys share thats what this is about.

Happy
06-04-02, 23:33
I guess Ruby is gone from HBM again. Apparently she and Sue did not get along very well. I also heard Sue was trying to raise prices from 20 to bucks depending on the service requested.

Sue does not do reverse showers but Angie will. Sue has a pretty crappy attitude. Don't let her get away with jacking the price, especially with such a crappy attitude.

Anything else going on in town, sure would be nice to find some new providers?

How about Executive, anyone worth seeing there?

Fox
06-05-02, 14:15
linda at executive has a great attitude but wont do fs. hbm is
the best place i have found, but looking for something new &
exciting

Huteh
06-05-02, 20:18
Possibly heading to HBM. Anyone have any more info for me that I should know?? Are the girls here all asian?? The girl on the recorder didn't sound like it -- not to sound stereotypical.

Not looking for FS but HJ and or CBJ sound nice... think 70 should cover the later of the 2? Would 40 get HJ? Im actually looking to go 2night, so any quick responsed are apprectiated. If I end up going I'll report tomorrow.

Huteh

uncleroy
06-11-02, 10:05
Went to Hbm last night and had a great experience with Sue. She was a little bitchy at first but settled down after a bit. She has a great ass and small perky tits. She gives great pleasure for the bucks. Does anyone know of any other girls that work there? Really would appreciate the info..

Disco
06-11-02, 18:20
Tried to go to Cat's Den in Warsaw last night, but it was closed when I got there. Ended up going over to Dateing Dynamics a few blocks away. A little more money.....$160 for an hour nude massage. Got a hot blonde named Kat. Older (30ish) but great D-Cup Tits. Since I got there just before closeing the only other woman there left, and left me an Kat there alone. What a luckey break. Once we were alone, Kat became a Horney little vixen. Needless to say, she got a very nice tip. I would recommend visiting with Kat and getting there just before they lock up at 11:30 p.m.

Happy
06-17-02, 19:52
Now that Sue is running HBM, I am not going there anymore. She is only interested in money, more money, won't do reverse showers, and is a clock watcher.

Haven't heard of any new girls at any of the other places, Fort Wayne is getting real boring. May have to try the Den!

Hey, let me know if any new girls show up, I am taking a break until then. Anyone know of any after hour joints like Detroit used to have?

To bad they had to start this new board, the other one had alot more traffic.

Later!

Lookin4luvin
06-28-02, 02:50
Hey I recently chatted with a girl cathyhuney in Ft. Wayne. She seemed reasonable but I wondered if anyone had any info about her.

Fox
06-28-02, 13:39
where did ya run into her?? she have a #?

J Day
06-28-02, 15:01
hello all, i have not posted since the old forum so here goes.......

executive health- has some ok girls there...about 4's and 5's, most of them are under 30yrs old and white. only go here if you want extra's..as they give a terrible massage. they offer close to everything except FS. tasha, jenni will do this for sure, i have even banged tasha while she was giving me head. i really liked renee when she was here. there have been reports of girls using gloves. i would leave if they do it with gloves. tasha and jenni don't use them though. they have some nice tits as they are easily c size.

four seasons- which is right next door. have not been there in a while....but they will do FS for 120...asian late thirties, i would rate them about 2 or 3. try not to go here unless they have some younger and newer girls. not much selection at the time.

relaxation station- if you get the right girl you can get almost everything here short of FS, don't know about BJ either. very good massage. chicks are around 2's to 5's, except for angie as she is very fine and around 28 or so. most of these ladies are in there 30's. wendy gives a great massage and release.

HBM- i just tried this place for the first time today, ming came to the door. said she just came over...not sure what that meant. rate her a 8, asian of course, 5'6", 115lbs,26yrs, great body, she said once i get to know her she will do more, and i know what that meant. she let me caress her and her ass...as some times she would make verbal gestures about things and slap my ass. i gave her a tip, as this was one of the best massages i have ever had with no extras. and she gave me a french kiss when i left. great time, clean place, padded tables better than these other places.

Happy
06-28-02, 18:37
JDAY,

Good to see you back. Do you know if Sue is still at HBM, she was trying to raise prices with lessor services? I hope she is gone and I will return?

For a GREAT massage, see Linda at the Station, best massage I have ever had.

Saw an ad in the paper for both Executive and Relaxation Station, don't knwo if they are training anyone though. Callexd the other day and still the same names working. Anyone else hear anything different?

Lori at Executive used to do a great reverse, last two times in to see her she was very cold to the idea. Anyone know what is going on with Lori? Great 30 something body!

pigpen
06-29-02, 14:54
Greetings All!
Long time lurker, first time poster. I hope to have some good news to report tomorrow. I'm meeting with a new independant escort this afternoon that is servicing the FW area. Her rates sound reasonable (i'll include them after I've verified them and the quality). I'm sending this to generate some hope and to test my ability to post to the new forum. I've verified there are no LE issues with this one and hope to pass on some good news.
I'll keep you all posted.

GoodoleboyIN
06-29-02, 21:27
Noticed a new massage place in Goshen, IN near the high school - New Earth Massage - small open/closed sign - all windows have shades drawn - anyone tried this place yet?

pigpen
06-30-02, 12:33
OK, Here's my report, hope you find it helpful YMMV.

Her handle is Ivy. Her stated stats were accurate at 5'5", 170lb. Brn Hair, Hazel Eyes, 31 yr old. A bit chunky, but a lot of the weight is in very huge tits. Could use a little dental work but I've seen much worse. 4 or a 5 on looks.

Flat rate of $65.00 hour covered all. Paid as soon as I went in (I didn't wait for her to ask). She has a web site she had directed me to http://www.freewebs.com/ivyonline/ (pages load slow, but no banner ads or pop-ups) email at ivyatplay@juno.com. The web site outlines basic info and a fairly accurate picture (face blocked out).

She did incall from a cheap motel on Collisium (which was a bit spooky) but the room was clean and I didn't have any problems.

She was a little shy at first but again, I was rushed for time so I kept things moving. She knew what I was into because I emailed my interests - all initial contact was by e-mail. I took the innitiative on physical contact. She was a bit more into foreplay than I had time for, gentle neck kisses and the like, but I took my clothes off and layed on the bed. She immediately started in with a BBBJ with some nice deep throating. She gagged several times, but it didn't detour her (I don't consider myself well endowed, so again, YMMV).

I had to ask her to take her clothes off, I think she's self concious about her body, but she quickly complied then went back to the BJ. I knew she was reluctantly open to Greek, so I asked if I could put it in her ass. While not enthused, she said OK and fished out a boot for me to put on then assumed the DS position and said "be gentle at first". While fumbling with the boot, and worrieing about getting out in time, ole willie went limp and I couldn't get it into her.

So I pulled the boot off and laid back and said lets stick with head. She went back to the BBBJ without a problem. When I started fingering her though, she really got into it. Finished with a very nice CIM (didn't miss a drop - didn't spit either - even gave it a nice kiss).

She was clean (no smell from the finger diddle and I was well into her).

Hope this isn't too much detail. Value for money was well worth it IMHO. I tipped her $20 after all was done (she earned it and I've paid a lot more for a lot less).

Looks 4-5, Personality a shy 8, quality of service 9, value 10 (not having to haggle or negotiate was nice - and it is discoraged on her site for LE reasons). I'll go back hopefully when I can spend more time.

I suggest getting aquainted through a couple of e-mails to get her comfort zone up a bit. I'm pretty sure she's available during the day which could make for some nice lunch break diversions. I get the feeling she is still new at this.

Good to see an independant, hope she lasts a while.

I'd be interested in seeing what some others think (are my expectations to low/high)

Todd
07-01-02, 09:49
Hey, TheBig1, I saw you posted a message in the Indy section about seeking an escort who would do couples. There is a wonderful young thing in Bloomington, who goes by the name of Amber. She use to work as an independent thorugh "hoosierdoggy.com" but is now truely and independent trying to set up her own website.

Her fee is $300 an hour or $475 for two hours. She is VERY good and worth the money and I happen to know she likes girls. If you would like more information and for me to contact her for you, I still have her email and phone number, but I will not post it here.

I've seen her three times, first time for an hour and the other two times for two hours and she is a good value and a true gfe.

Maybe we could work out a foursome, you, your girlfriend, Amber and me...?? Just an idea.

You may email me at peterpanda69@hotmail.com

J Day
07-01-02, 10:36
Happy,
i believe sue is still at the HBM, when i got let in there was someone standing in the back....it was dark but i am pretty sure it was her...i was so glad she did not answer the door....sue has a bad attitude and compared to the girl i had........wow this girl was hot, not to mention a great personality....you should try here again...but if sue answers i would leave.

J Day
07-03-02, 17:51
Huteh,
First of all, who did you have? i told everyone to stay away from sue. secondly i have never had a problem with usually getting what i want.....it always starts with a sauna....then to the shower....and then back to the room for massage. and like i said if i don't like who answers the door then i leave and come back till i get someone i do like...you can usually tell how they are going to be when they great you at the door. so that should be a good indication.....just be firendly

on another note...went to Executive the other night and saw tasha.. got a great nude bj while i was fingering her and then she moved up and finished with a hj while i sucked on those boobs...oh and i've never had to ask if i can touch her...she always says i can touch her anywhere.....oh!!!!!!!! she has a clit ring too.

cloud
07-06-02, 02:49
hi,i want to try executive or relaxation can someone tell me where are they located??

Disco
07-06-02, 17:07
Hey pigpen, I'm interested in meeting your friend Ivy. Does she only give you one cup of coffie, or are there refills?

pigpen
07-06-02, 20:26
Hey Disco,

I've seen her twice now, the first I was rushed (by my schedule not hers), the last, I had time to burn and splurged for 3 hrs. No dine and dash there. When I left, I really felt like she completely enjoyed the time also (I've had some that try to pull that - appeal to the ego thing - and sorely fail).

So to my fellow older readers, if you want to use one of those little blue pills, you will get your money's worth. With the (completely optional) tip, I ended up covering her whole night fee and still felt I was getting the better end of the deal. (Keep in mind that I have a tendency to treat them like ladies so you may only get out what you put in). She did have to 'check in' with a GF half way through our time - just a quick call that all was OK.

hth

bunchofun
07-08-02, 21:26
Any "good" info on independant Escorts in this town?

pigpen
07-08-02, 22:11
Originally posted by bunchofun
Any "good" info on independant Escorts in this town?
The info 9 posts down is "good" IMHO.

bunchofun
07-08-02, 22:34
Yeah, thanks.....but I was hoping for more than one choice....

sexmonkey
07-08-02, 22:41
Hi Guys


I haven't been to the Fort in a while but I'll be coming down to see family the 1st of Aug. and was wondering if Boom Booms was still in business? There were also SW in the area are they still working there and if not where can they be found?

ftwayne25
07-09-02, 14:34
Boom Boom's is closed.

stevealluna
07-28-02, 16:31
Got a nice hand job at Cats Den in Warsaw last night. She got nude and i was able to touch her everywhere. Not to bad at all. Checked out Dating Dynamics and they are still to costly for services rendered.

Ivy
07-31-02, 12:03
Hello again
It is Ivy once again. I deleted my post because I felt people wouldnt feel comfortable posting due to the fact a escort posted. However, I am not one to keep opinions to myself.:)

As I said yesterday, I know some people are not attracted to BBWs. I understand that. People have their own taste. But just because someone is large doesnt make them undesirable. What is important is the inside of a person, not the outside. I am attracted to people who are beautiful on the inside. The outside does help but, the inside can make you ugly or beautiful. It doesnt matter what you look like. If your personality leaves something to be desired, than there is a problem. I mean would you want a beautiful woman who treated you like crap or a pretty woman who treated you like gold? Not to say all beautiful people are like that. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, though.

Just my 2 cents. If it offends I am sorry. That wasnt my intention. Please keep posting.

Don
08-07-02, 17:14
Sory been gone a long while. Have been to HBM did'nt mind Sue she was pushy and wwanted a few extra bucks but good lay. In warsaw you have Dating Dynamics no f/f anymore can get a bbbj from Aerial for $25 Kat used to do f/s as did aerial but not anymore others maybe a h/j but questionable. Cat's den 2 sisters work in eveningsd both do h/j mandy does f/s if she likes you and pay well like $150 must bring your own condom though. there waw another chubby blonde gal with big tits who would do f/s for $100 but she left. Dee's international in fort wayne closed down but has resurfaced in warsaw as an outcall service but is advertising that they will soon have an office for incall i'll let you know. Thats all i hear the strip club in N. webster has a few that'll go home with ya but pricey and asking the wrong ones will get ya thrown out probably.

lonewolf
08-08-02, 17:52
does anyone have a number for dee's in warsaw. i will check it out and post as soon as i can get in touch with the service.

saw tasha at executive. received a nude bbbj & hj for 2 bills. she will tell you she doesn't offer extras but, once she's in the room and checks you out it's a whole new ballgame.

doe's anyone if there are any new girls at the cat's den. mandy and her sister are alright but. i like some variety.

as for south bend the street action comes and goes. it's a crap shoot. have had luck in teasers pulling some of the girls out of there but, they have to get to know you before, the will date outside. my main girl heather moved so, i checking out some of the others. will post when we hit pay dirt.

does anyone know a reliable escort or service in ft.wayne.

nerdboy
08-09-02, 18:01
Hello,
Thought I would ask about a tip I recieved the other day. While the SW sceen is basically dead in FW, has anyone checked out the holidome? Was told that there is some action that happens there.

Also, do I understand it correctly that Ivy provides the room, so you just pay the fee and meet her? What a deal if that is the way it works. I am definately going to meet with her, like the oral fixation part. My wife is like a vacuum cleaner. Great when new, but stops sucking after a few years....

TTFN

uncleroy
08-13-02, 10:40
Went to the Holidome twice there was some action there but be careful they have sercurity personel. Had a great experience with sue at HBM. Man she lost her attitude and she was great. Anyone who can give me a discription of Anna please do. Haven't seen her yet, but I've heard a lot about her.

uncleroy
08-14-02, 10:13
Go to the bar at the Holidome on weekend. There is usually a few pickups that can be made. Anybody give me a discription of Anna at HBM. Everytime I go i see Sue.

thebig1
09-16-02, 22:35
Looking for a place to go for total nude massage with reverse and handy at the end. Let me know about cat's den, is 70 dollar hour for total nude or what?? let me know where to go, thanks.

tommygunn
09-28-02, 02:00
I was wondering if someone could offer any suggestions. I have went to HBM twice and paid 40 dollars for 1/2 hr massage and that's all i got. Do I need to offer more money. and when do the "extras" take place. do I initiate it or do they?. I'm confused.

any suggestions would be appriciated...thanks

stevealluna
10-10-02, 23:41
Is Dee's located off Winona Ave? several blocks from Cats Den on Winona? I was at Cats Den about 2 and a 1/2 weeks ago and thet told me they were moving a couple of doors down from the corner location they are at now.

Ivy
10-15-02, 13:57
Is FW aka Fort Fun :) dead now? Havent seen much on here lately. Dont let LE scare you away, just be more careful and discret, screen whoever you want to meet. Be careful of escorts that wont give you any info and of first timers. The same goes for escorts. Clients and Escorts alike need to screen very carefully.

Fox
10-15-02, 16:10
your right ivy, hope your feeling better....i would love to
meet you

Ivy
10-15-02, 20:57
Hello Fox:)
Thanks for the nice words. I am feeling alot better. If you would like to talk email me:ivyatplay at juno dot com.

newbie02
10-28-02, 14:42
I go to Warsaw often for business and have been looking into Dating Dynamics and saw on here there is another called Cat's Den. What do the girls at the Cat's Den look like and Dating Dynamics, plus rates, etc....I am new here, and would appreciate any info possible..thanks!

newbie02
10-30-02, 10:51
Looking for any new information on Relaxation Station...girls, etc...thanks!

dependable
10-30-02, 17:02
Stopped by "Dee's International" in Warsaw. BIG waste of time...don't bother. Nothing of interest and even a poor massage to boot.

dependable
10-30-02, 17:07
Looks like Executive Health is out of business.....? Phone is disconnected and the place looks empty. Did they move elsewhere or just fold?

Ivy
11-03-02, 16:15
Hello everyone:)
I have a November special.....2 hours of relaxation at a discounted rate. I specialize in sensual massages, languages, and fulfilling fantasies.

A bit of news: I had a photo shoot for some BBW and fetish adult web sites. Have a very excellent photographer! As for requests for pics, they are being developed. So, if this pans out well, I may be getting out of this business and into another.:)

Hope everyone is having fun!

MrWiggles
11-05-02, 21:48
Ivy: I've got this fantasy of a threesome with you and Paula Zahn. Can you fulfill?

OhYeah
11-10-02, 21:05
Anybody had any experience with "cathyhuney" from escorts.com ? Says she is from Fort Wayne. Just curious.

nerdboy
11-11-02, 16:25
Well good for you Ivy, glad to hear someone is having fun! What kind of dicount are you giving for 2 hours of "relaxation"? Boy what a bargain that would be.

OhYeah,

I have also seen "cathyhuney"'s add and tried to contact her but it didn't go thru, I to am curious about her.

Different question, I know strip clubs are only for viewing, but where else can you sit back, have a beer, not have an annoying girl pester you and have some beautiful breast rubbed in your face for a buck! I have been to centerfolds, brandys, showgirl I and Showgirl III. My favorite is Showgirl I as the girls are attractive and seem to have a lot of fun teasing. Showgirl III has some great looking dancers and have the big name shows come in, but harder time having a good laughing time there. Other two didn't impress me much.

Anyone else have a favorite club?

Ivy
11-14-02, 18:33
News and other goodies:

I am a very happy woman at the moment!:) Some of my pics were sold! I also may be starting a "partnership" with another female escort. We are meeting, after the holidays, to iron out some details and perhaps take a few pics. If all goes well, this winter she will be included in some dates, if requested:)

More on this at a future date...more sooner than later..:)

dependable
11-16-02, 07:23
Here's "cathyhuney"s info page. Sounds fishy to me, but if someone takes one for the cause, please let us know.

http://www.cathyhuney.gq.nu/

Ivy
11-17-02, 21:19
I viewed Cathy's page. Just my opinion: She might be an "occasional" escort. Sounds like she is very selective, though. I have seen her on another site, but cant remember which one. Maybe an Yahoo group, perhaps. Not the FW group, another one.

stevealluna
11-17-02, 23:07
Iv never personally talked to this " Cathy" i see discussed here but i do know she is only interested in seeing " older gentlemen" like 50+ older. Just my 2 cents :) Be safe everyone!!

Timmy
11-18-02, 13:46
ivy,

do u have a website? do u travel??. post website info and ill contact u through the site

Ivy
11-18-02, 18:18
Timmy:
I am in the process of building a new site. It is a slow process as I am teaching myself how to build one. For the time being, I am still using the old site: www.freewebs.com/ivyonline/.

SteveAlluna: I tried emailing you back but the email was returned to me.

Hope everyone is having a good day. Play hard but safe! :)

cloud
11-18-02, 21:32
hi there, i tried ''a a ashleigh's escorts ; what a a scam, fee $120 for outcall one hour and for fs $500 - meanning she didn't want to do it.

Ivy
11-22-02, 00:42
More about Cathy Huney:
I was reading some of the older 2002 FW posts. Someone had posted about chatting with her. It was in April or May.

sex_finder_ww
12-09-02, 16:49
Thought i would let everyone know that I got a chance to meet the famous "Ivy". She was wonderful and everything and more that she claimed she was. Through WSG, i was led to her website, and followed the suggestions there, and it made for a very delightful evening. It was a true GFE and I will be back again.

Ivy
12-10-02, 01:34
Thanks, hon! I truly enjoyed myself also. Looking forward to seeing you again. Have a great Christmas.

Hugs and Licks,
Ivy

Ivy
12-17-02, 18:37
Major development in TBD case! Charges were dismissed!

View it here:http://news.tbo.com/news/MGA0PXXBT9D.html

Ivy
12-30-02, 17:10
Hello Everyone!
I would like to wish each of you a very Happy New Year.:) Play hard, but safe!

Hugs,
Ivy

stevealluna
01-06-03, 23:51
Things appear alittle quiet in here :( I roll east once in awhile and stopped at Cats Den just off Winona Ave twice in the last couple of weeks. Got a average rub down for $70 and hour and finished with handshakes for a decent tip. I heard Kat from Dating Dynamics is at the relocated Dee's International on the corner of US 30 East & 250 East , right next to a Oriental Buffet . I tried them out and got decent rubdowns from both Dee and Kat. IT seems that extras are hard to get here. Dee says she doesnt do that anymore...struck out with her :( but kat will offer a helping hand to relieve your stress. The shower before the massage was about 40 dollars extra and really not worth the extra ( stand up shower) Play safe and good luck :)

Happy
01-11-03, 20:31
Hi all, Anyone here what happened tothe ladies of Executive? I haven't been to town since the bust, is there any other places to get a decent massage besides the Station?

The last place I triede was HBM, Sue, her attitude improved over the previous visit. Probably gone now.

dependable
01-29-03, 23:42
All the girls at the Relaxation Station quit and it is not open for now. What's up with that?

Disco
02-05-03, 19:19
Hello all,

I've been out of circulation the last few months. What't the state of thing in the Fort and Warsaw?

Ivy
02-06-03, 21:19
Apparently, not much. This forum has been very quiet lately.

Ivy

Ivy
02-10-03, 06:18
Red headed, Bisexual, BBW wanting to spoil you at a reasonable rate! I offer a variety of services from massage to a light BDSM session, in which I can be submissive or Domme. I can be your ultimate GFE or your wild PSE.

I do have a bit of criteria. No one under the age of 25. Must be respectful, intelligent, and clean.

My description: long reddish brown hair, sexy green eyes, 5'5, voluptuous, 46dd breasts. Soft hands and a gentle touch, or rough, depending on how you like it. .

So, when you are ready for the ultimate experience, email me at ivyatplay@hotmail.com. If you would like more info, please read my reviews and postings in this forum.

Hugs and Smiles,
Ivy

HappyGardener
02-10-03, 19:31
Ivy,

Seems like you have building that website since late last summer.
Is this a goverment project? Any chance it will be done in 2003?

Fox
02-11-03, 13:13
i noticed a small sign set out @ dupont & lima intersection
last week, i went by fast & just noticed DAY SPA at the top
& was not able to read the rest. I thought i would get it the
next day but it was gone......anyone know what i missed??

horny & out!!

Ivy
02-11-03, 20:50
Being that I am computer illiterate when it comes to building a site, and that life has been very busy, I havent had a lot of time to devote to it. Basically, I havent totally needed it either. Yahoo groups and Escorts.com has been very good to me...:), like a few other escort sites has. You dont always need a web site for this business, I know quite a few escorts that doesnt. It does help, a bit, however.

Oh yes, a bit of news, I am a verified entertainer at www.date-check.com, as of yesterday. It is a site in which an escort has to verify you are safe, before you can become a member. That is for escorts and clients alike, basically. Clients can join with out being verified,but not too many escorts will see those that arent verified.
One of the benefits of being a verified member is you can give others you feel and know are safe a free three month membership. So, if I have seen you, and I feel you are a gentleman..:) I would have no problem giving a few of you this gift.

Ivy

Dougie
02-11-03, 21:59
Originally posted by Ivy
Being that I am computer illiterate when it comes to building a site, and that life has been very busy, I havent had a lot of time to devote to it.

So what is the address of your website anyway??

P.S. The website www.date-check.com seems to be a broken link.

Ivy
02-11-03, 22:21
I do not have a site that I am using at this time,hon. Very strange about the broken link. I was just there a few mintues ago. Try cut and pasting it. I just did, and it works..:)

Ivy

Milkman
02-17-03, 15:18
Stopped at Cats den today. got a massage for a new girl named Ashley ( I think) very sweet girl.. nice massage, with friendly release. Has anyone been to dating dynamatics or Dees lately?

Cool_Hand_Luke
02-17-03, 20:15
So, are there any AMP's still in business? Heading up Ft. Wayne later in the week. Thanks.

ftwayne25
02-21-03, 12:48
Four Seasons and HBM are still very much open. Visual enjoyment is a jack shack. Don't know of any other action.

stevealluna
02-23-03, 01:32
I stopped by Dee's International It is located in Warsaw on the corner of US 30 East & 250 East across from the Shell station,next to Oriental Buffet. (574)371-2120 a couple of weeks ago and Kat who used to work at Dating Dynamics is working there now. Kat has always been handy when i saw her:) . I tried Dee and she woudnt be handy :( maybe after a repeat visit i hope. I havent been to Dating Dynamics for quite awhile since i always thought their prices were to high for services rendered. Be safe everyone :)

Ivy
03-02-03, 19:23
Web site is one step closer to being done...the front page is complete!:) Luckily, another escort is helping me to put it all together, she does very good work!

Hope to have it ready for viewing ASAP, will keep ya all informed.

Hugs,
Ivy

Happy
03-05-03, 22:36
Hows it going, board is really slow lately. Does any one know if Tami is still at HBM? Haven't been able to stop since January! If Tami is gone, could you tell me if they have anyone worth seeing? I like Tami, Sue, Ruby and those girls. Thanks for the info.

By the way, what happened at the Station? I heard they all quit? What's up with that?

Bigrock68
03-06-03, 04:40
Hello everyone, this is my first time posting. On a business trip to Ft. Wayne I found info on this site and e-mailed Ivy about setting up an appointment. She responded within the day and provided directions to her incall location. When I arrived she greeted me warmly and almost immediately put me at ease. After a great massage she provided me with a truly memorable experience. She is not (I repeat, "NOT")a clock watcher. I do occasionally get to Ft. Wayne to manage the projects I have there, and I fully intend on seeing her again soon. Thanks Ivy!!

Mustafa
03-07-03, 21:41
BigRock:

Please tell me more about Ivy as i would like ot see her.

FS, including BBBJTC and DATY?

what positions did she do.

does she dress up in garters, heels etc?

that what I'm looking for.

please tell us as much as possible about IVy. I know she looks hot, big tiits and nice volutuous body.

Stafa

Ivy
03-09-03, 05:14
You are very welcome,hon. I am glad you enjoyed our meeting, as did I. Thanks for showing discretion in your posting. You never know who could read the posts..:)

Hugs,
Ivy

Ivy
03-10-03, 18:14
Hey all:
I read some interesting in the news paper a few days ago I thought I should pass on....

The cpl AMPS that were busted in September were being watched very intensely for about 6 months. I believe LE also snatched records and files.

Why ppl keep records of names and the like, if that is what the records are, is unfathomable to me. Hell, that is a wide open invite to being busted. I may ask for some verifying info to prove you are safe, but I do not keep the info after meeting.

Ivy

Flashman
03-13-03, 15:15
Ivy, any word on your website? Any place for your pictures, contact info etc.?

McDuff
03-15-03, 02:23
Hey all. New to the board. I've been reading through the archives and it seems pretty quiet in the Fort. Any up to date info on MPs would be nice. What happened to all the SW from the south side any other places they could be? been lookin with no luck.

Ivy, lookin gooood!!!!!!!!!

Ivy
03-16-03, 15:17
For the moment, you can reach me at www.escorts.com. User name is ivyatplay. I have a review there as well as here, along with an complete interview and profile....:) I can also be emailed at ivyatplay@hotmail.com. Please remember, I will not answer sexually explict email and I also ask for a way to verify you.

The web site is once again experiencing a delay. I know it is frustrating, well, it is to me anyways..:), but in this case, I understand. My friend is dealing with a death of someone very close to her. Just happened late this past week, so, some patience is in order.

To those that has tried to reach me the past few of days, very sorry I wasnt available. I developed a bout of food poisoning, but am starting to feel up to par again. Have also been playing counselor a bit, concerning my friend. I will be accepting appointments this week.

Hugs,
Ivy

trainbum17
03-18-03, 10:15
Originally posted by Ivy
For the moment, you can reach me at www.escorts.com. User name is ivyatplay. I have a review there as well as here, along with an complete interview and profile....:) I can also be emailed at ivyatplay@hotmail.com. Please remember, I will not answer sexually explict email and I also ask for a way to verify you.

The web site is once again experiencing a delay. I know it is frustrating, well, it is to me anyways..:), but in this case, I understand. My friend is dealing with a death of someone very close to her. Just happened late this past week, so, some patience is in order.

To those that has tried to reach me the past few of days, very sorry I wasnt available. I developed a bout of food poisoning, but am starting to feel up to par again. Have also been playing counselor a bit, concerning my friend. I will be accepting appointments this week.

Hugs,
Ivy
miss...you are a very together lady. i agree with all you have said, both here, and in the NW In board. I would like to touch base with you. do you use yahoo messinger? if so, you can contact me @ runaway49097...please mention your name and something else that may remind me that you are you...sorry, but i am a parinoid child of the 70's :-)

Slow Ride
03-18-03, 11:15
Originally posted by Ivy
Hey all:
Why ppl keep records of names and the like, if that is what the records are, is unfathomable to me. Hell, that is a wide open invite to being busted. I may ask for some verifying info to prove you are safe, but I do not keep the info after meeting.

Ivy What do you do for the IRS? It seems to me the real danger is being busted for not paying taxes. To justify income you've got to have records of something. Remember Capone didn't get busted for any illegal activity, he got put in jail for income tax evasion.

ftwayne25
03-18-03, 16:23
Any strippers offering extras on the side?

Any American massage places with extras?

Don't know where to go without Executive and Relaxation Station!

thebig1
03-18-03, 18:18
I did a search for massage in fort wayne and came up with 2 addresses for executive, Lima road where they once were, and on Gardt street just north of their old location. wondered if anyone knew if they were going to reopen. also looking for more info on dee's international: what is offered, who is best to see, prices, etc.

also quick question in regards to ivy's post about busted massage parlors. what kind of records were confiscated? everyone I know that went there used bogus names if they were even asked what their names were, so I don't see how files could be that big of a fear. anyone have any info????

Ivy
03-18-03, 21:53
I meant I do not keep records of names or contact numbers. That info is disposed of after meeting. I do not see why the IRS would need that type of info!:)

By the way, If I am slow in replying to email, it is because I have came across a second job, non related to escorting. Both jobs have kept me pretty busy, so I apologize ahead of time, in case it takes a day to reply to someone.

Hugs,
Ivy

MrWiggles
03-19-03, 01:36
Ivy:

You must have the most posts to the Fort Wayne site in the past year. But you have yet to provide any useful information about finding that which we are searching in Fort Wayne other than advertising yourself. And while I do not wish to hurt your feelings - I have met you and am not at all interested in another meeting. The picture you had on your web site at the time of our meeting was, IMHO, very misleading. If it was indeed you, it was very out-of-date and taken before a significant increase in weight. This forum is supposed to be a place to exchange useful information. So tell us how to find your other escort friends that you mention. You state in your profile at escorts dot com, that you now require referrals for your first time clients. Tell us who else is out there in Fort Wayne to make a referral. You seem to be the only independent in town.

Ivy
03-19-03, 02:06
Hello all:
Mr. Wiggles, I think you have your facts regarding Escorts dot com wrong. I do not require a reference from a first time client. I said in the interview, if you dont have a reference, contact info is cruical. That is only for safety reasons, as some bad things as happened to some ladies lately in the MidWest Area.

The web site is almost a year old. I have stated to people I no longer use it which is why I am building a new one. I also replied to a post concerning this in the late summer, in another thread, either in the Illinois board or another Indiana board in WSG, in which I apologized. I made a major newbie mistake, in which I apologize once again. However, that was over 6 months ago. I have learned alot. BTW, Why didnt you say something then, if it bothered you?

So, in light of the post below this one, I most likely will not post here again. You didnt want to hurt my feelings, but I am human. What did you think posting that would do? It will bother me to no longer post here, because this was one of the very first boards to introduce me to this"hobby". But, since I am apparently pissing ppl off, I will cease to post. It was never my intention to offend anyone. As for not wanting to see me again, that is fine. Everyone has their own preferences. That is not what is bothering me at all. If it offends ppl that I have posted here, it should have been said long ago, not almost a year later.

As for other ladies try the agencies or Sexy Bridget, who is lives in FW but also travels alot. Her info is found at escorts dot com. Bianca Kay also come to FW once a month. There is also Stacy and Kimberly from MI who travels to here. All of this info can be found at other escort/client message boards. They arent SWs, as I am not either. Which is why other ladies do not post here. I simply do(did) because this was the one of the very first boards that was shown to me. I also have not mentioned these ladies before because I am not sure if they wish to be advertised here. Each lady does their own advertising, for the most part.

Goodbye all.

Hugs,
Ivy

P.S. To those that would like to contact me I can be reached at ivyatplay@hotmail.com

trainbum17
03-19-03, 10:15
Originally posted by Ivy
Hello all:
Mr. Wiggles, I think you have your facts regarding Escorts dot com wrong. I do not require a reference from a first time client. I said in the interview, if you dont have a reference, contact info is cruical. That is only for safety reasons, as some bad things as happened to some ladies lately in the MidWest Area.

The web site is almost a year old. I have stated to people I no longer use it which is why I am building a new one. I also replied to a post concerning this in the late summer, in another thread, either in the Illinois board or another Indiana board in WSG, in which I apologized. I made a major newbie mistake, in which I apologize once again. However, that was over 6 months ago. I have learned alot. BTW, Why didnt you say something then, if it bothered you?

So, in light of the post below this one, I most likely will not post here again. You didnt want to hurt my feelings, but I am human. What did you think posting that would do? It will bother me to no longer post here, because this was one of the very first boards to introduce me to this"hobby". But, since I am apparently pissing ppl off, I will cease to post. It was never my intention to offend anyone. As for not wanting to see me again, that is fine. Everyone has their own preferences. That is not what is bothering me at all. If it offends ppl that I have posted here, it should have been said long ago, not almost a year later.

As for other ladies try the agencies or Sexy Bridget, who is lives in FW but also travels alot. Her info is found at escorts dot com. Bianca Kay also come to FW once a month. There is also Stacy and Kimberly from MI who travels to here. All of this info can be found at other escort/client message boards. They arent SWs, as I am not either. Which is why other ladies do not post here. I simply do(did) because this was the one of the very first boards that was shown to me. I also have not mentioned these ladies before because I am not sure if they wish to be advertised here. Each lady does their own advertising, for the most part.

Goodbye all.

Hugs,
Ivy

P.S. To those that would like to contact me I can be reached at ivyatplay@hotmail.com

Ivy.....
I do hope you reconsider. You gotta know that in any forum, there are ALWAYS gonna be 'flamers', those who post only to incite trouble, because that is what they thrive on. I personally find the person that flamed you; the one that elicited this response, to be a jerk. (that is all i will say on the subject BTW...i am NOT a flamer) You are very upfront about the fact that you are a "Rubenesque" female...that kind of honesty is very refreshing in the decietful world of the web! And as far as anyone who has a problem with that, well, they can do what I do with posts that don't interest me...IGNORE them. I only know that sometime next month, I am gonna find a way to hook up with you.....most everyone that has posted about you has been very positive. I hope i get to add to that.
Did you mean you are done with WSG? Or just the FW thread?

Talk to me soon...you know how
John

MrWiggles
03-19-03, 12:55
Trainbum:

Call me what you wish, but I saw Ivy about 9 months ago after a couple emails. I specifically asked her if that was indeed her photo on her web page. She confirmed it to be so, without any disclaimer that it was an old picture or that any other information was out of date. On that "old" site she says she's 31. She currently admits to being 32 - so it appears that site was "up-to-date" at that time.

I tried to be a gentleman about it and decided to stay and made my donation, but it was impossible for me to become aroused given the significant difference from the photo. It was an unpleasant experience that comes to mind each time I see her post. The advertising was deceptive.

Finally, it's my opinion, and you can form your own, that some of her reviews may have been authored by herself.

Take my comments however you wish - but I am simply providing what I consider to be useful information to others, as well as getting this off my chest. although 9 months later.

Ivy
03-19-03, 16:59
If that is your opinion that is your opinion. Everyone is entitled to believe what they want. The people that truly knows me, knows I wouldnt do such a thing. Btw, do you have any proof to back your opinion up? Real proof, other than the web site I used to use? On that subject once again, that is exactly why I havent posted that site any where in a long time. If you would read through my posts, you will notice I quit advertising it. I made a bad error 8 or 9 months ago. Am I to be judged for it forever?

You posted something about me, back then saying I wasnt your cup of tea or something of that nature. You could have spoke up in that post, way back then.

I am done with this, it is getting tiresome. Btw, thanks for the publicity. Bad publicity is better than none at all..:)

Ivy



P.S.To each person that posted a review of me: Someone is claiming I authored each review. So that person is basically saying each one of you doesnt exist. I understand you not wanting to involve yourselfs with this, it is up each of you what you decide to do in light of this allegation that doesnt have ANY proof to back it up.

Ivy

Timmy
03-19-03, 20:45
Ivy,

mr wiggles sounds like a disgruntled a/h. let it go, dont stoop to his level and keep on with the posts and info. besides, how much credibitlity does he have 9 months after the fact. good luck, and keep it coming. i wonder, does mrwiggles know butcakes??

Ivy
03-19-03, 21:11
You are right. I am not going to stoop to that level. It just annoyed me a bit.

I am going to keep posting. This is a public forum, I am not stop because of one person's remarks. Jackson is the only person that can keep me from posting..:)

So, I am here to stay. If you dont want to read my postings, move on to the others.

Hugs,
Ivy

Ynot
03-19-03, 21:36
Ivy,

You have another ally here in me. I have never met you nor do I have any plans to be in Indiana in the near future (a little far to drive from the far west suburbs of Chicago). However, your posts I have always found to be informative and level-headed. You help make this board enjoyable to read and you help people here see the human side of being a female hobbyist.

As always, take care and be careful.

trainbum17
03-19-03, 23:18
Originally posted by slowride
What do you do for the IRS? It seems to me the real danger is being busted for not paying taxes. To justify income you've got to have records of something. Remember Capone didn't get busted for any illegal activity, he got put in jail for income tax evasion.
Slowride....Fyi, the IRS indeed has a schedule for the reporting of illeagally earned income (the number escapes me at the moment). They are forbidden by law to share their info with other governmental agencies, with the exception of the DEA and the FBI. I am reasonably sure that neither the FBI, nor the DEA has the time or the inclanation to mess with an escort or her clients. Altho this form was created primarily for proffessional gamblers, it has become wisely known in accounting circles as "the hooker form". And in my experience, as long as the way you live doesn't indicate a substatially higher income than you report, even the anal IRS won't bug you, even if they do audit you.

sex_finder_ww
03-20-03, 17:19
i dont keep close tabs on this forum, so sorry for taking so long to enter this discussion.

first of all, ivy ... u will always have me for support. I have and would recommend u anytime. my time with you was wonderful and hoping that we will see each other again.

i dont know if everyone understands this thread or not, but I thought that Ivy was just pointing out that she disgards all information that is provided to her and doesnt keep any records.
(Ivy asked for name and phone number prior to meeting)

I dont really think that the IRS cares about who left receipts or identification at the AMPs. They would only use the records for tax purposes. There was a time when i was stupid enough to use a credit card at an AMP, but those days are over. However, there is nothing illegal about getting a massage and leaving a decent tip.

finally, as said before, Ivy has been described as a BBW and for anyone that cant appreciate the beauty of a woman of size, then they should not bother. BUT for anyone that can appreciate a beautiful woman, regardless of size, Ivy was a great GFE.

Ivy
03-20-03, 18:04
Thanks, sweetie! I hope we can see each again, also. You are a true gentleman.

Last summer, I posted something about understanding everyone has their own preferences in regards as to size and the like. I still stand by that post. Not everyone likes women of size, but there are quite a few who do, and there are those that doesnt care about weight at all. As long as they enjoy themselves, they are happy. Those two types of men are the ones I desire to meet. If you contact me, I automatically assume you are one of those types, as it is known here and other places, that I am a BBW, and proud of it..:) For those of you that like voluptuous, very well endowed(meaning I was blessed concerning breasts:))women, than you probably like what you see.

Hugs,
Ivy

Mustafa
03-21-03, 20:59
TO MY FELLOW HOBBYISTS & MONGERS:

I TOTALLY agree with Mr. Wiggles - he is right on point!!!!

I have met with Ivy and will never do so again!!!

The photo on her website is Totally misleading. She has gained 100+ pounds since then.

Needless to say, I was totally shocked when I saw her in person, considering what I was lead to believe.

Don't let her fool you too.

I excahnged messages with her and even talked with her on the phone prior to our scheduled meeting and I told her flat out that I was really attracted to her because of the photo that I had seen on the website.

At no time did she ever tell me or even hint that that photo was TOTALLY MISLEADING & OLD.

For God's Sake, she has gained 100 f_cking pounds since that photo.

She preys on people who don't know any better and she expects that once you are in the room, you won't leave - even though she's a totally fat woman.

Further evidence of her deceptive tactics is that she hides behind the door of her hotel room when you arrive. She only exposes her face - so that the prospective customer doesn't see that she's gained a zillion pounds until they are firmly in the room and the door is locked. While I could have left if I wanted to, I was already there and did not want to risk anything or directly offend the lady - so I went thru with it but I WILL NEVER DO SO AGAIN!!

I really think that she should stop posting here and using this as her Marketing strategy. Thi sis an area for hobbyists to share REAL INFO and not TO TOTALLY MISLEAD RIP PEOPLE OFF as IVY Does.

Learn from my mistake and don't waste your time on Ivy.

Also, does anyone else find it interesting that her so called "new" website still is not up. I propose that the real reason is that she would have to show her current photos, which would disgust people, and this would no longer give her that convenient excuse.

I rely on a good, free flowing and honest exchange of information on WSG with other hobbyists, and Ivy only serves to undermine that goal by her deceptive and self serving tactics.

Mustafa

McDuff
03-22-03, 00:50
Would you all stop with the hate!!!!

I posted a msg a few days ago to which I got no response instead there is just idle bickering, please use this for what it's here for.

Thanks,

McDuff

Ivy
03-22-03, 02:48
If anyone would like to see the FRONT PAGE of my new site, just ask. I can provide the URL to GENTLEMEN. To prove myself, I can also give the name of the lady that is assisting me with it. She is known on Yahoo.

As for"hiding behind the door" I dont hide. I simply do not stand right in front of the door to let the whole world see what I am wearing, something called discretion.

It is really easy for ppl to hide behind a user name and say anything they want. I have no idea who that last post is from. I cant say I havent met him, but the user name isnt familar. However, if I am that disgusting, he could have left. I am sure even a gentleman, as he says he is, wouldnt stay if someone is truly disgusting.

Ivy

espengirl1
03-23-03, 04:24
Hello Fort Wayne!!!

Some of you know me, some of you don't, but all the same, I would like to say my piece here on your board. I am Espen, and I am an independent in sw Ohio.

What brings me here today is the current discussion regarding Ivy.
First, I want to say that I know Ivy, and she is NOT a dishonest person. She is in the process of building her new site, as I am the one that is designing it for her. There have been some holdups that has put our timing off, but that is life. Her site will be up and it will be all good.

The girl made a mistake, and if she makes only one, I commend her. She may have only had an old picture at that time to put up. You see sometimes photos are not so easy to come by, and with the pressure some of us get from prospective clients for photos, I can see where she used the only pic she had at the time. The bottom line here is that she has apologized time and time again, and this supposed client will not let the matter rest, making himself look like a total a**. It would be different if the girl denied the mistake, or if she continued with the behavior, but she has not.
As long as I have known Ivy myself and even before I had actually talked with her, I have always known her as a BBW, as I am sure for the most part have all of you. I dont think that this person should make it his career to bash Ivy, she is good people, even if she may not fit his "ideal" The bottom line is she apologized and has not repeated her mistake, I really do not know what else she could be expected to do.

Second, Why in the world would a client wait for close to a year to make their voice heard? My thought is perhaps it is not really a former client, but possibly someone elses path who she may have crossed. Or, the person has just realized that they have no real life of their own, so they feel this need to attempt to drag someone else down to their level. At any rate, my message is this. You have made your point and your opinion known, now be a "man" and move on. If we wanted children whining all around us, we would be having a lot more and this applies to clients as well as providers. Your whining has reached the point it is annoying. Go and move on to a provider who is your "ideal" and when you do, PLEASE remember to give that girl a good review.

For those who know Ivy, and that is ALOT of us, we know that she is good people, and she will rise above this pettiness and she will be fine. I thank you all for your time, and will have her site up and running as soon as I can. I have had some personal difficulties, as well as working my regular job, and this one to contend with, but it will be complete soon nonetheless. If anyone would like to chat with me, you can IM me on yahoo or email me there at espengirl1.

Thanks, Espy

Huteh
03-24-03, 16:40
Hi all... was wondering if anyone has had any experience with a lady by the name of "Sexy Bridgette"??? Saw her in Fort Wayne on escorts.com and was wondering if anyone has any scoop on her. From the looks of her pics on her site she is SMOKIN hot!! Apparently incall is offered and shes based outta FW.

In respects to the recent controversy in this part of the forum it appears both parties are at fault to a degree. I would be very upset and voice those feelings if I was deceived by a lady. Probably would've done it with a little more tact, however, in voicing my opinion.

With that said... anyone have any info on any happenings in the area?? We need to get back to the main point and share our experiences with fellow hobbyists.

Warpig2000
03-24-03, 17:30
Kudos Espengirl. You put a loudmouth in their place by appealing to our common sense.

No one is pointing a gun to anyones head and telling them to go see Ivy. She is on my must see list, although I live elsewhere, simply for reports on her service and her personality- I've had some wonderful talks with her backchannel. Believe me, she will have clients no matter WHAT her kind of BS Wiggles and Mustuffa have to say. If she wasn't for you, say so in a tactful manner and drop it!

Ivy
03-24-03, 18:50
I simply wish to thank the people that has supported and encouraged me during the past few days. Thank you very much for being there. It will not be forgotten. If any of you ever need a friend, you know how to reach me.

I agree that this forum should go back to being informative for the gentlemen on this board. So, I will add to it a bit.

Sexy Bridget has reviews at Escorts.com as well as at the Scorps Guide, which is a forum for Michigan, Ohio, Indiana and Canada. Her reviews are in the archives there. She also has a web site. If I can find it, i will post it.

Hugs,
Ivy

Ivy
03-24-03, 19:06
Hmmm, Interesting. On Bridgette's Escorts.com Interview, there is a link to a web site but, when I clicked on it, the page said:404-File can not be found. I do know she does live in FW, but also travels to Michigan and other areas. She does have reviews at Escorts.com. According to those reports, she is a voluptuous lady.:)

Hope this helps a bit.

Ivy

MrWiggles
03-24-03, 21:06
Originally posted by espengirl1

It would be different if the girl denied the mistake, or if she continued with the behavior, but she has not.
As long as I have known Ivy myself and even before I had actually talked with her, I have always known her as a BBW, as I am sure for the most part have all of you. I dont think that this person should make it his career to bash Ivy, she is good people, even if she may not fit his "ideal" The bottom line is she apologized and has not repeated her mistake, I really do not know what else she could be expected to do.



Welcome to the fray espy. I have met you several times before, and can only agree you are as advertised. Wish there was someone in Fort Wayne like you.

Thanks for the career advice. But, I'll pass on making this a career because it's too frustrating, and the pay sucks.

If you doubt that I was a client of the person in question, I'll be happy to post the motel name, room number, and her cell phone number. By the looks of the room, the motel appeared to be a permanent address.

You ask what else can be done. I would suggest either replacing the picture and stats on her web page with a current picture and stats, or taking the site down. Leaving it remain "as is" is deceptive advertising and "continuing the behavior".

Also, she is not voluptuous, which is defined as:

1. Giving, characterized by, or suggesting ample, unrestrained pleasure to the senses: (voluptuous sculptural forms; a voluptuous ripe fruit; a full, voluptuous figure).
2. a. Devoted to or indulging in sensual pleasures. b. Directed toward or anticipating sensual pleasure: (voluptuous thoughts). c. Arising from or contributing to the satisfaction of sensuous or sensual desires.

The adjective that should be used is obese.

As for BBW - I understand that to mean Big Beautiful Woman. Again, the second word should be obese. Thus BOW would be the correct term on an updated web site.

See you in Ohio Espy!

FortWayneDude
03-24-03, 22:09
Mr. Wiggles, AND EVERYONE ELSE,

I agree with him COMPLETELY!

I have seen ivy, and I have seen the "pictures" he refers to.

Here is what she CURRENTLY states on Escorts.com

"Body Type: A few extra pounds"

That is SUCH A WRONG statement.
She has a few extra pounds the way a FEW people died on 911.

When I met her, she did the SAME THING behind the door.
The room was nasty, dirty, gross.

She is NOTHING like the pictures, and ALL OF YOU need to quit giving Mr. Wiggles a hard time about it.

The guy was lied to, plain and simple. Just that simple statement she makes above about "a few extra pounds" is complete, utterly, 100% FALSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT cannot be an simplier than that.

The guy has a great point, and all of you that are criticizing him are being blind to the facts.

For those of you that have not "seen" her, you truly cannot have an opinion.

The women is at least 300 pounds. And since she isn't 12 feet tall, that is more than a FEW Extra.

The funny thing is this, I saw her picture on the site AFTER I met her. I could not believe the picture when i saw it.

With all due respect to you IVY, you should definately update your info to be MORE accurate. Update your photos. Tell people the blunt truth.

And "BBW" doesn't COVER IT. BBW wouldn't make me picture you. Sorry, but it is the truth and someone ELSE needs to speak it besides Mr. Wiggles.

FortWayneDude
03-24-03, 22:11
FYI,
I read something about her age.
On escorts.com it is listed currently as 30 years old.
Her birthdate shows as: 6/21/1972 (age 30)

Something tells me that is not what I read in earlier post.

FortWayneDude
03-24-03, 22:14
Ok, here is more information from her site:

She says "I have long brown hair and hazel eyes. I am 31years old, 5'5 and voluptuous, 170lbs, curves in all the right places."

I am sorry, she is WAY MORE than 170 lbs.

It list her age as 31 to.

Here is a link to the site:
http://www.freewebs.com/ivyonline/index.html

Oh, and by the way, a picture is on there and it is DEFINATELY NOT HER.

OH MY GOD, that is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT EVEN HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I mean this LITERALLY. That is seriously NOT HER. Or if it was, it was a LONG time ago, and a WHOLE BUNCHA pounds, wrinkles, stretch marks, and gravity effects ago.

FortWayneDude
03-24-03, 22:20
SEXY BRIDGETT:
Here is a link to her site:
http://myweb.ecomplanet.com/ashl2207/

She is not a BBW, and not "voluptuous".

I would call her "endowed" in a very good way.

I have had contact with her, and she is great to deal with. Very honest, post accurate pics, and nice to deal with.

FortWayneDude
03-24-03, 22:32
Originally posted by Ivy
If anyone would like to see the FRONT PAGE of my new site, just ask. I can provide the URL to GENTLEMEN. To prove myself, I can also give the name of the lady that is assisting me with it. She is known on Yahoo.
Ivy

I think that after all this, we all deserve to see it.

Big Pops
03-24-03, 22:53
Sorry, but have to throw in my 2 cents and agree with Ftwaynedude, mustafa, and MrWiggles. Ivy is not all she seems. Does it not strike anyone else as odd that she has the most posts on this forum? This site exists primarily for sharing info, and up until her recent transparent efforts, she has shared very little info other than about herself! She is simply a master marketer who has figured out how to use this site to further her cause. If you think she's here to help you fellas, think again! Nothing fundamentally wrong with furthering your own cause, but don't try to deny it for what it is. We're all big boys (and gals) here. Furthermore, I believe she's a bigot. Everyone has their own personal preferences, I guess, but I think it kind of ironic for someone who's probably been the subject of discrimination themselves for being grossly overweight, and who is now being called to task for misrepresenting that fact. How do I know? I made contact a while back. Wanting to be highly cautious and cover my tracks until I was absolutely sure it was safe, I claimed to be black (I am not) part way through her "screening" process (yes, shame on me for not coming completely clean). Never heard another peep, in spite of numerous attempts. So, I waited a while and then made contact again as my real self. All of a sudden, I had no problem arranging a meeting. I have issues with this kind of blatant racism and elected not to go through with the meeting. No doubt, Ivy will continue to have supporters and clients (due mostly, I have to believe to a lack of choice or competetion in the fort). I don't begrudge her that. Just wanted to make it known that not all of us are fooled by the "i'm-just-a-simple-nice-bbw-trying-to-make-friends-so-forgive-me-for-making-one-simple-rookie-mistake-and-now-i'm-a-poor-innocent-victim-of-unwarranted-vitriol-so-come-to-my-defense" front.

FortWayneDude
03-24-03, 22:54
Originally posted by Warpig2000
Kudos Espengirl. You put a loudmouth in their place by appealing to our common sense.

No one is pointing a gun to anyones head and telling them to go see Ivy. She is on my must see list, although I live elsewhere, simply for reports on her service and her personality- I've had some wonderful talks with her backchannel. Believe me, she will have clients no matter WHAT her kind of BS Wiggles and Mustuffa have to say. If she wasn't for you, say so in a tactful manner and drop it!

Ok Warpig, it is not that easy.
Here is the thing. You spend time looking for a girl. You make your choice based on:
1. Appearance
2. Availability
3. Rates
4. Services

ALthough there are other things, those are probably the four major ones.

You have TIME invested in that meeting, as well as the oppurtunity cost of who you COULD have met.


When someone lies and misleads you, it is not as simple as "say so in a tactful manner and drop it".

Then, when you see that person is STILL misleading people, you get even more mad about it.

Someone has to tell the truth, and all of you are not really thinking about this situation or paying attention to the facts.

FortWayneDude
03-24-03, 22:56
Well said BIGPOPS !!!!!!!! And thank you for speaking up.

FortWayneDude
03-24-03, 22:58
For those of you asking for other providers, have any of you heard of the place in kendallville? It is an AMP, but I have always been taken care of there. Price is "so so", paid about 160 but got everything I wanted and from really attractive girls MOST of the time, and girls that rate about a 7 the other times.

Ivy
03-24-03, 23:40
One question:
To those I saw a long time ago, why did you wait until now to speak up? Someone said to the affect of low credibily for waiting for 9 months to speak up. If you saw me a long time ago, why are you waiting until now?

Lets see,. Have any of you made mistakes in your life? Do ppl still insult you for it, after you have admitted it? I did admit to misleading over the summer. There was a thread in another part of WSG. THe poster was not insulting and dropped it after I posted. He was a gentleman.

As for my birthday, I was 31, when the site was done last June.

Each of you are giving WSG men a bad name for the insulting posts. Ladies do read this forum.. meaning other escorts. You arent making yourselves look good. I understand being upset but, this away beyond the call of duty.

The freewebs site will cease to exist in the next cpl hrs. I am deleting it. Then no misleading will happen at all. As I said gentlemen will see my new site, not the ppl that have been insulting.

Oh and for record, who I decide to see and not to see is not any one's business. I read bigot comment. So, you MISLEAD me then, pretending you were black. I am not going to insult you over it. I am a better person than to resort to that. Btw, I do have a client of another color. Perhaps something in your email turned me off. Perhaps I didnt get the email, who knows and who cares since it was a long time ago! I mean, I have been around for almost a yr, and if I have seen each of you that are bitching than you could have spoke up then.

I am done with this.

trainbum17
03-24-03, 23:43
Hey all.
I gotta tell ya, this new game you guys have invented of Ivy-bashing is gettin real old, real fast. If you visited the lady and were unhappy with what you found, you should have spoke up then and there. If you wanted to post a short post here stating that you were not happy, that would be good too. But this personalizing vitreol has gotta stop. She's a proffessional woman, not a robot. What good is accomplished by being mean spirited and making personal attacks? Nothing at all.
On another note, you may want to get past all the influences of television in our lives and try realizing that as women get older, sometimes gravity will have an effect on their looks. But you know what? I'll take a 30something woman who has had time to learn how to use her body any day over a teenager that just lays there!
Ivy has been a very interesting poster in many forums, and for that alone, she has my respect. Remember respect, and manners--those things we were all expected to use in the days before the internet?

FortWayneDude
03-25-03, 00:22
Originally posted by trainbum17
She's a proffessional woman, not a robot. What good is accomplished by being mean spirited and making personal attacks? Nothing at all.
On another note, you may want to get past all the influences of television in our lives and try realizing that as women get older, sometimes gravity will have an effect on their looks. But you know what? I'll take a 30something woman who has had time to learn how to use her body any day over a teenager that just lays there!
Ivy has been a very interesting poster in many forums, and for that alone, she has my respect. Remember respect, and manners--those things we were all expected to use in the days before the internet? [/i]
Professional is not a word I would associate with her.
Her web site is still blatantly misleading and false.
As for respect and manners...I have seen many providers in my life. give respect when it is deserved. Ivy was the first person to misrepresent herself to me, and as we have all seen, she has done the same to others.

In fact, she STILL is on her site and on escorts.com

STILL!!!!!!!! I do not call that professional or actions that are worthy of respect.

Ivy
03-25-03, 00:25
The site is gone. There is no site to speak of.

FortWayneDude
03-25-03, 00:25
Originally posted by Ivy
One question:
To those I saw a long time ago, why did you wait until now to speak up? Someone said to the affect of low credibily for waiting for 9 months to speak up. If you saw me a long time ago, why are you waiting until now?

REPLY: I will tell you why. I saw the hard time you were all giving Mr. Wiggles and I decided to speak up for him. Plus you LIED about your age and weight on escorts.com and you STILL ARE. When you change those items, and take off that picture of your site that is CLEARLY NOT YOU then maybe I will say "all is well"

Lets see,. Have any of you made mistakes in your life? Do ppl still insult you for it, after you have admitted it? I did admit to misleading over the summer. There was a thread in another part of WSG. THe poster was not insulting and dropped it after I posted. He was a gentleman.

REPLY: This is not about a mistake. Mistakes are accidental, and are not repeated OVER AND OVER

As for my birthday, I was 31, when the site was done last June.

REPLY: Escorts.com says you are 30. But that is just like that pic, NOT YOU

Each of you are giving WSG men a bad name for the insulting posts. Ladies do read this forum.. meaning other escorts. You arent making yourselves look good. I understand being upset but, this away beyond the call of duty.

REPLY: Do not confuse "insulting" with "truth hurts"

The freewebs site will cease to exist in the next cpl hrs. I am deleting it. Then no misleading will happen at all. As I said gentlemen will see my new site, not the ppl that have been insulting.

Oh and for record, who I decide to see and not to see is not any one's business. I read bigot comment. So, you MISLEAD me then, pretending you were black. I am not going to insult you over it. I am a better person than to resort to that. Btw, I do have a client of another color. Perhaps something in your email turned me off. Perhaps I didnt get the email, who knows and who cares since it was a long time ago! I mean, I have been around for almost a yr, and if I have seen each of you that are bitching than you could have spoke up then.

I am done with this.

FortWayneDude
03-25-03, 00:26
Originally posted by Ivy
The site is gone. There is no site to speak of.

AMEN, finaly after several ppl complain she takes the site down.

How about straightening out the lies on escorts.com????

Ivy
03-25-03, 00:33
Hmm, confused about something, how is it Someone has Senior membership with 1 POST. Either Jackson changed the policy, which was 10 posts being a senior member or something is very wrong here.

MrWiggles
03-25-03, 00:40
Originally posted by Ivy
[i]One question:
To those I saw a long time ago, why did you wait until now to speak up? Someone said to the affect of low credibily for waiting for 9 months to speak up. If you saw me a long time ago, why are you waiting until now?

Lets see,. Have any of you made mistakes in your life? Do ppl still insult you for it, after you have admitted it? I did admit to misleading over the summer. There was a thread in another part of WSG.

If you would have read my previous posts, you would have learned why I waited so long. You baited and switched me last year and I don't particularly like to be reminded of my gullibility and that miserable experience. Everytime I see you post, I am reminded of it. To see you continue to use the web site that baited me and see you still have posts at WSG that link to that web site, I decided I need to warn other potential victims of your con and guise. Until a couple weeks ago, I didn't visit this site every couple days like I am now. It was more every couple months. And I was surprised to see you still baiting and switching after all this time. My question to you is, why haven't you corrected things after all this time?

If you want to come clean - get rid of that web site and delete your posts in the WSG directing others to that website. All you have to do is tell your ISP, and on here just edit and delete your misleading posts.

When someone is found falsely advertising in the newspaper, the ads aren't run any longer. The advertiser isn't permitted to state in some obscure section one day that their ads are false, but they'll continue to run them.

What other forum do I have for my complaint? Maybe I'll call the BBB and tell them some escort that offered sex for money, wasn't what she said she was. I believe this is the appropriate forum for men to provide information to men about what's out there. If some have particular desires for large BBW - that's up to them. But don't go posting a picture of someone at least 100 pounds less than you and say it's you.

I didn't even know WSG existed when I saw you. I found your web site doing a simple yahoo search for a Fort Wayne Escort.

If you come clean, I won't feel the need to warn unsuspecting gentlemen any longer. But your mistake is correctible and you still haven't corrected.

Ivy
03-25-03, 00:44
I'm confused. The profile I use the most at escorts.com, ivyatplay, has my correct birthdate on it. :) I am still saying a few extra pounds, because that is how I see myself. I dont care what others think.

Ivy
03-25-03, 00:46
Sorry but you are wrong, there is NO site anymore. It is GONE.

FortWayneDude
03-25-03, 00:47
Amen Mr. Wiggles!

I went through exactly what you did.

I think you and I both know that the picture is NOT her. Forget the 100 or more pounds, it just aint her either way!

There is a HUGE difference from that pic and her.

She should just be honest about who she is, and what she has to offer.

Then ppl can choose if they want her.

Talk about discrimination. SHe discriminates against herself by not accurately depicting herself.

FortWayneDude
03-25-03, 00:51
Originally posted by Ivy
I'm confused. The profile I use the most at escorts.com, ivyatplay, has my correct birthdate on it. :) I am still saying a few extra pounds, because that is how I see myself. I dont care what others think.


Here is what is one ONE of your profiles:
Escorts.com is pleased to present Ivvyy.
This profile has been viewed 633 time(s).

Need to relax for a few hours?

I cam help you relax and forget all your problems! I promise the utmost

discretion and professionalism. I also promise satisfaction! I offer a variety of services from a relaxing massage to making a fantasy come true! I will see those who are looking for a first time experience with an escort.


Date of Birth

6/21/1972 (age 30)

Sex

Female

Orientation

Straight Female

Available as a(n)

Escort

City

Fort Wayne

State

Indiana

Ethnicity

Caucasian

Body Type

A few extra pounds

Height

5 feet 5 inches (165 cm)

Hair Color

Auburn

Eye Color

Hazel

Smoking

Occasionally

Drinking

Occasionally

Drug Use

Rather Not Say

Language Spoken

English

Secondary Language

Rather Not Say

Last Visit

3/24/2003


HEre is the link to it:
http://www.escorts.com/viewprofile.asp?m=1091873



As for a "few extra pounds", that is a complete misrepresentation. I do not care how you see yourself. Somethings in life are NOT up for that much interpretation.
You got more than a few extra. Few is like maybe 5, or 10, or maybe even 20 pounds extra. You got a LOT MORE THAN THAT.
You are at least 250 lbs and I would guess it is closer to 3hun. Considering the site you just FINALLY turned off said you were 170, I really do not get your math at all on any of this weight thing.

Just say it on the ads, you are very heavy. Some guys really like that. My brother does. I bet the guys that REALLY do like that do not call you because you advertise that you are 170 and carrying just a few extra pounds. Those guys like REALLY BIG girls, and no offense meant (seriously, no offense) you are a very large girl.

Ivy
03-25-03, 01:01
"Rolls eyes"

Jesus, this is getting dumb. Ok, that profile says that because I was OUTED last fall by someone I know who saw me on Escorts.com and saw REAL pics of me in a Yahoo group. I changed it so my friends and family wouldnt think it was me. At the present time, I dont care. If any of them is reading this, than I have outed myself.

FortWayneDude
03-25-03, 01:06
Ok, that is fair enough and understandable.

I still do not agree with your weight statement.

I would hope nobody would see someone without a pic, but I did (and learned my lesson from it). In your case, the pic is there it just wasn't you.

I read lots of talk on these sites about providers and protecting them etc, but you are proof of "buyer beware"

Sure, a person can leave. But when put on the spot, and you have invested time in setting up a meeting it is not so easy to just leave and not have bad feelings about it.

IF there are a few of us on here complaining, then there has to be more that have not spoke up. Or do not even know about this site and other sites.

Good luck to you, I hope you change your ways going forward.

Ivy
03-25-03, 01:22
Hmmm, except for presenting the site in the classifieds here, I didnt post it in a posting. A gentleman did. I didnt create the site either. I mean, Espen is doing the new site, so that should tell yo how good I am with creating sites..:) However, it was still misleading, which ,once again ,was brought up last summer. However in my posts I always said I am a BBW.

FortWayneDude
03-25-03, 01:26
If you knew it was misleading, and it was brought up "last summer", why was it still up today?

Did you know that those admissions make you look really bad?

I do not see professionalism or manners or ethics in your statements or actions.

Seems to me that UNLESS several people got on here and complained you would have left that site up even though you admit that last summer you used it for misleading purposes and knew it was misleading.

We find her guilty your honor

Ivy
03-25-03, 01:34
Since someone else created it, I didnt have the password for the account to delete it. I, finally, was able to get ahold of him and it was deleted.

At least I am being honest. It is over with. Time to move on.

MrWiggles
03-25-03, 01:38
Originally posted by fortwaynedude
For those of you asking for other providers, have any of you heard of the place in kendallville? It is an AMP, but I have always been taken care of there. Price is "so so", paid about 160 but got everything I wanted and from really attractive girls MOST of the time, and girls that rate about a 7 the other times.

Finally on to a different subject. I go to Kendallville every couple months. Never the same ladies there except for mamason, who will always ask me if I have been there before and who I saw. I usually forget after a couple months so I just tell her some Korean girl. Went there about 3 weeks ago. The worst one I have met there. Her name was Sissy (a typical Korean name). About a 3. I dimmed the lights as far as I could without turning them off, and tried to find some nice music on the radio, but couldn't. Thought if I had a nice atmosphere and closed my eyes, she could have been a 9. Table shower was rushed and so was massage. I decided I would only ask for a hand shake, and she even wanted more than the going rate for that. That was rushed too. I'll try again probably next month, but if Sissy is the only one there, I'll have only wasted an hour and a couple gallons of gas - cuz I'm not seeing her again.

Used to like to see Lee at 4 seasons. But she finally retired last fall. She was in her early 40s, but had a great body and attitude and took her time.

McDuff
03-25-03, 01:41
Enough already, get back to what this site is for.

McDuff
03-25-03, 01:42
Start posting up to date info please.

I'm new to this and this board and this is not looking good!

Ynot
03-25-03, 13:05
Ivy,

Good for you - move on. These guys will continue to post as long as they think they are getting a rise out of you. Seems their only purpose here. Don't give them that satisfaction. You've apologized for your mistakes. The majority of us here forgive you for any mistakes you may have made and realize you are trying to make things right.

Let he without sin cast the first stone.

Huteh
03-25-03, 14:45
Ivy -
Thanks for the info on Sexy Bridgette. Also thanks to Fortwaynedude on the info for Bridgette as well.

Huteh
03-25-03, 15:05
So for someone who's newer to the Ft. Wayne area where is this Kendallville AMP? What is the upfront/door fee?? Are services offered?

FortWayneDude
03-25-03, 20:24
Originally posted by Huteh
So for someone who's newer to the Ft. Wayne area where is this Kendallville AMP? What is the upfront/door fee?? Are services offered?

The kendallville AMP is fairly easy to find.

Here are directions:

Go north on 3 to Kendallville. You will know you are there because you HAVE to turn right or left.

Turne Left. Go about 1/4 to 1/2 mile.
On the RIGHT you will see a large apartment complex. Turn right here.

Go down just past the complex, and on the right is the place.
It is called Kendallville Spa or Day Spa. Has a HUGE yellow sign that you can see from tennesee and it is VERY HIGH.

I think hours are 9a to midnight.

Door fee is based on hour/half hour. Get the half hour, it was 40 bucks. Then negotiate from there.
Mamadam does the same thing to me that she does to Mr. Wiggles. I have never had a 3 but I have not been there in a while. The only girl I had there I didn't like was "lilly".
NOrmally there is more than one girl and you can ask for another girl (although I have never done it).

HOpe you enjoy

Regardless of the girl, I have ALWAYS Gotten what I wnated and in an AMP that is always a plus.

FortWayneDude
03-25-03, 20:27
Originally posted by ynot
Ivy,

Good for you - move on. These guys will continue to post as long as they think they are getting a rise out of you. Seems their only purpose here. Don't give them that satisfaction. You've apologized for your mistakes. The majority of us here forgive you for any mistakes you may have made and realize you are trying to make things right.

Let he without sin cast the first stone.

ynot, I appreciate your comments but umm, well, NO.

It is not about satisfaction or getting a rise out of her.
Just yesterday, in all the messages she made admissions and fixed problems that Mr. Wiggles had complained about before.
Perhaps you could say FINALLY there was satisfaction.
I do not like escorts that are ALL ABOUT THE MONEY even at the clients expense and then come onto a board and act otherwise.

We revealed her, you can call it what you like.

Hopefully going forward she will adjust her personality and morals.

Either way, you are a "uninterested third party". So unless you have seen her, are her, or are me, then your opinion is not worth much to me.

Mustafa
03-25-03, 22:33
FtWaynedude & Mr Wiggles & Others:

I appreciate you guys also coming out and telling the truth on Ivy.

I only wish this had come out 2 wseeks earlier, it would have saved me a lot of time and $$$.

I have not waited long to call Ivy out as what she is. I saw her less than 2 weeks ago.

I go to Ft Wayne number of times during the year and thought I had found a good provider but alas all I found was a REALLY REALLY REALLY HEAVY HOOKER!

I might get some shirts made that read:
"I VISITED FT WAYNE & ALL I FOUND WAS THIS REALLY REALLY REALLY FAT HOOKER (HO)!"

:)

Stafa

FortWayneDude
03-26-03, 00:31
Mustafa,
She aint heavy, she just has a "few extra pounds".

And remember, she doesn't care what anybody else's opinion is of that statement

Huteh
03-26-03, 02:07
FortWayneDude-

Hey thanks a million for the info. Now all I need is the name of a few girls that work there that you guys HAVE had a good time with. So far Lilly and Sissy have been duds. I could just make up a name but I dont want mamasan to catch on to me. Another thing to ask (sorry to be a pain) but I look real young for my age. Im 29 but look about 22. Will they pitch a *****?? Some AMPs I've been to have and it makes for a not-so-fun time.

Thanks. Peace!

FortWayneDude
03-26-03, 02:12
Huteh,
Sue is the only one I can remember (probably spelled su or something like that).

They are not picky.
She will ask if you have been there, just say yes.

If she ask who you saw, say Lilly and Sissy.

Nuff said?

You get who you get anyway!

Lilly doesn't seem like she was as bad as Sissy. Lilly was about a 5. She had a few extra pounds, but not bad at all. Nothing like what IVY calls a FEW EXTRA (insert hundred) pounds

Most people do not know the place is there, and usually if you go your the only one there. But last summer they had two girls working during the daytime/weekdays which was great for me. I gotta make a trip real soon too, let me know how it goes for you.

One night thing, it has always been guaranteed.

I doubt they get pressure from LE in Kendalltucky (oops, I meant ville). I doubt kendallville really knows what is truly going on there anyway.

So, the mamadam is very cool and not pushy about anything.

Ynot
03-26-03, 03:23
Seems some here will never change. While my opinion "is not worth much" to a few here (gee, there's a surprise), I, like so many others here, am here to support Ivy because she has an enjoyable (and sometimes even self-deprecating) presence on this board and the vast majority of her reviews here are glowing with compliments from clients who, as far as I know, didn't have a gun to their head during their meetings w/ Ivy.

As in any business, one quickly learns that you can't please all the people all the time. Ivy has done very well in pleasing most of the people most of the time. There will always be a few who are negative and hold a grudge, no matter how many times someone apologizes. Luckily for Ivy and everyone else here, they are very few and very far between.

FortWayneDude
03-26-03, 09:54
Originally posted by ynot
Seems some here will never change. While my opinion "is not worth much" to a few here (gee, there's a surprise), I, like so many others here, am here to support Ivy because she has an enjoyable (and sometimes even self-deprecating) presence on this board and the vast majority of her reviews here are glowing with compliments from clients who, as far as I know, didn't have a gun to their head during their meetings w/ Ivy.

As in any business, one quickly learns that you can't please all the people all the time. Ivy has done very well in pleasing most of the people most of the time. There will always be a few who are negative and hold a grudge, no matter how many times someone apologizes. Luckily for Ivy and everyone else here, they are very few and very far between.

YNOT: Please register with either the Republican or Democratic Party in Fort Wayne. Please submit your intention to run for office immediately in the next election (does not matter which office) because you are surely suited for politics.

You have my vote.

Does not matter who was happy, who likes her post. Wrong is wrong, and wrong is not clouded by other actions that are right.

Currently she is still in a position to mislead someone.
Here is why:
1. SHe still says "a few extra pounds" on escorts.com
2. She stated her intention to not change that statement
3. She doesn't have a web site or accurate pic

Since Fort Wayne is pretty dry, she will get contacted. She will not tell the person anything other than "few extra pounds", she will HIDE behind the door. The dude will get a huge 300+ pound surprise.

I find it severely wrong, and she feels there is nothing wrong with it.

I would love to hear from everyone what they consider a "few extra pounds".

I consider that something like a TRUE 150 - 170 pounds.

I do not believe you have seen Ivy (if you had you would know) but she is at least 300.

Her statement (even in this board of the last couple days) is wrong. SHe is not a few extra pounds. Her relation to few extra pounds is that she eats a FEW extra pounds every meal I bet.

Happy99
03-26-03, 10:17
Hey Mustafa


I might get some shirts made that read:
"I VISITED FT WAYNE & ALL I FOUND WAS THIS REALLY REALLY REALLY FAT HOOKER (HO)!"



That is the funniest line I have read on this site. An instant classic

trainbum17
03-26-03, 10:50
ok...i promised myself i would stay out of this flame war...damn me! i cannot do it
ftwaynedude, you sanctimonious ass, shut the fukkk up. (sorry Jackson). like what i and many others have said before, if you have had a negitive experiance (as if, in your proven here ignorant opinions, matters?), just say so and move on. wtf? are you her ex-husband or something? as my always wise grand-dad used to say, "you look at some people and think they may be stupid, and that is ok. but then some of them insist on opening their mouths and proving it. and that isn't ok."
enuff said, i think.

trainbum17
03-26-03, 10:54
so....does anybody have any info on that AMP in warsaw? i may or may not go their, but at least it is a better thing to talk about than what we have been :-)

Ivy
03-26-03, 12:05
I am all going to say is this: I think you need to RELOOK at my profile at Escorts.com. Read it really good. You have NO BASIS now to say anything about me and anything misleading. I did sone editing last night. Becaue I decided to, on my own accord. I didnt know anythig about these so called informative posts, until now.

McDuff
03-27-03, 08:28
Come on guys, DAMN, I think we get your point about Ivy.

It is time to move on, Please!!!

Artman
03-27-03, 12:47
Guys

I have not been to Ft. Wayne, though I am planning a business trip....If so, I will email IVY or something...If I wanted to inquire about her services, I would ask for a pic...Did you guys do that? or did you go by the web? Buyer beware! Now, How can you say how much Ivy weighs? Did you bring a scale? It has been my experience that weight is secondary to face and personality. In an escort situation, I am looking for a GFE and from this board, that is what Ivy provides. So, I would definitely inquire further. When I shop at a grocery, I get what I want, If I want apples I go to the apple aisle, If I want string beans, I go there! If I want a GFE with a BBW, where do I go. BTW Ivy back channel me at artie1965@aol.com. Would love to chat further!

Thanks

artman

Mustafa
03-27-03, 13:35
jhc:

I thought that line was funny. I appreciate you're recognizing my top-flight humor.

"I VISITED FT. WAYNE and ALL I FOUND WAS THIS REALLY REALLY REALLY FAT HOOKER!"


I predict I'll sell 10,000 of those if I made them.

Maybe Ivy could buy them from me and give them to her "customers".

BY THE WAY IVY, keep raining your rates. Thats great. You went from 60 - 80-120.

I wouldn't pay 10 to see you again.

Thats it for me, I've said my peace on this as long as Ivy stops misleading people and gets her sh_t together.

Stafa

FortWayneDude
03-27-03, 16:08
Originally posted by Ivy
I am all going to say is this: I think you need to RELOOK at my profile at Escorts.com. Read it really good. You have NO BASIS now to say anything about me and anything misleading. I did sone editing last night. Becaue I decided to, on my own accord. I didnt know anythig about these so called informative posts, until now.

We have no reason NOW, because you changed it.
Thank you. Full figured is a more realistic description.
You also added BBW, which is an accurate description.

I am NOW satisfied that any person that contacts you from those ads will not be mislead.

Thank you!

FortWayneDude
03-27-03, 16:13
Originally posted by artman
Guys

I have not been to Ft. Wayne, though I am planning a business trip....If so, I will email IVY or something...If I wanted to inquire about her services, I would ask for a pic...Did you guys do that? or did you go by the web? Buyer beware! Now, How can you say how much Ivy weighs? Did you bring a scale? It has been my experience that weight is secondary to face and personality. In an escort situation, I am looking for a GFE and from this board, that is what Ivy provides. So, I would definitely inquire further. When I shop at a grocery, I get what I want, If I want apples I go to the apple aisle, If I want string beans, I go there! If I want a GFE with a BBW, where do I go. BTW Ivy back channel me at artie1965@aol.com. Would love to chat further!

Thanks

artman

No I did not bring a scale, but come on! Common sense here.
A few extra pounds will cause a certain perception by the AVERAGE intelligent person (sorry if you do not apply in this category) and she would not fit that perception by any stretch.
Sorry, but those are the facts.

She changed the ad, and NOW I do not feel anyone will be mislead and THAT was my motivation. As it appeared to be the motivation of the others on that side of the fence in this forum.
I believe we all clearly stated such.

FYI: I did ask for a pic, she did not have one.
The others saw the pic she had, and it was not accurate AT ALL. I do not believe it was her, and she admitted it was a major mistake to use it, continue to use it after she got complaints.

Your experience with weight is MUCh different than mine.
Weight is a major issue for me and I take "a few extra pounds" as a literal statement, not as one based on fantasy. No amount of GFE or personality will overcome obesity in MY book. And I know that many are like me in this regard and I have sought out to prevent them from a bad situation that I found myself in (as did others)

FortWayneDude
03-27-03, 16:16
Originally posted by mcduff
Come on guys, DAMN, I think we get your point about Ivy.

It is time to move on, Please!!!

McDuff, with all due respect it was NOT about "getting the point", it was about getting her to change her ads, statements, and get her to respect the fact that "buyers" make their decisions based on those statements.

A picture paints a thousand words. The pic she used depicted chapers that are NOT in her book.
She finally, RECENTLY removed the pic after almost a year of controversy.
Without a pic, the words are CRUCIAL. She just changed the words.

The goal has been met, that goal was never about YOU getting the point. Some people never get the point. From what I read in your post, I would never take on the goal of getting you to the point of getting the point!

FortWayneDude
03-27-03, 16:19
Originally posted by trainbum17
ok...i promised myself i would stay out of this flame war...damn me! i cannot do it
ftwaynedude, you sanctimonious ass, shut the fukkk up. (sorry Jackson). like what i and many others have said before, if you have had a negitive experiance (as if, in your proven here ignorant opinions, matters?), just say so and move on. wtf? are you her ex-husband or something? as my always wise grand-dad used to say, "you look at some people and think they may be stupid, and that is ok. but then some of them insist on opening their mouths and proving it. and that isn't ok."
enuff said, i think.

I do not believe that I have made ONE SINGLE stupid comment on this board.
Ivy admitted there was a problem, as did others, which clearly validates my comments.
She took action (removing site and pics, changing her profile content) based on the comments of myself and others.
She validated our concerns by doing so.

So again, where do you fit in all this?

Oh wait, you were the stupid person you referred too.

Thanks for pointing that out to us all.

FortWayneDude
03-27-03, 16:20
Originally posted by jhc1025
Hey Mustafa


I might get some shirts made that read:
"I VISITED FT WAYNE & ALL I FOUND WAS THIS REALLY REALLY REALLY FAT HOOKER (HO)!"



That is the funniest line I have read on this site. An instant classic

Wouldn't you have to be a REALLY REALLY REALLY FAT HOOKER to wear the shirt and have a big enough body to display all of that text?

FortWayneDude
03-27-03, 16:37
Ivy,
I appreciate the changes/edits/removals you have made over the last few days.

I have done the following:
1. Gone farther than JUST trying to reach my goals by insulting you, for which I apologize.
2. Failed to mention the GOOD side of you which was you offered to be very GFE, and I would assure anyone that wishes to use your service that I believe you are a true GFE and your prices are quite reasonable compared to the prices of others.

Often, the client doesn't truly appreciate what the provider deals with, and I believe that often the provider does not truly believe what the client deals with.

Although I cannot say you intentionally mislead anyone, that was the result and I believe that going forward you will be better informed and have a greater understanding of your customers.
Sure, at worst you did intentionally do these things, but at best you were just guilty of ignorance (in the legal sense).

Going forward I would recommend you to others and look foward to your post on the forum (although I will not be here on a regular basis).

Regardless of my PERSONAL preferences, Fort Wayne is so dry that we need EVERY escort we can get and I applaud you for the work that you do and zest for which you do it.

Ivy
03-27-03, 18:23
Fort Wayne Dude,
Thank you for your apology. It is accepted, as I do not hold grudges, especially when someone makes an attempt toward peace. I hope you accept mine as well.

Pointing out mistakes was a good thing, as I have learned from this. It was the insults and the way it was handled that upset me.

Thanks also for mentioning the good side of me. I am sure you have a good side to your personality, as everyone has several different aspects to themselves.

You made a good point in mentioning clients and providers do not always see or understand what they both have to deal with. I am making it a point to try to understand the client's side, so I try not to make any mistakes again. The mistakes previously made will not be repeated again.

This forum can now truly move on and put the past few days behind us.

Ivy

MrWiggles
03-27-03, 19:33
Has anyone else noticed that because of the raging discussion of the past week, Fort Wayne now has more posts than Indy? The world is watching. Pretty soon we'll have more than Buenos Aires and Bangkok, and people will be booking sex vacations to the Fort. Somebody better expand the airport and build some new hotels. Myself - I think I'll become a tour guide.

stevealluna
03-28-03, 00:14
If i may interupt our lovefest here :) Thought id try out Dating Dynamics in Warsaw since i havent ventured there in many a moon..What a rip off.....Prices thru the roof and no happy finish :( Now i finally know where i WONT ever go again. Cats Den in Warsaw easy to get handy dandy done alittle... more if they know ya. I heard of a possible newer location for another Cats Den in Cambridge City opening up soon, closer for the Wayne County people. Cat's Den
600 East Winona Avenue, Warsaw, IN 46580
(574) 268-9665

Safe Safe everyone and alittle respect goes a long way :)

Ivy
03-28-03, 00:59
People taking sex vacations to the Fort? LOL. Could be possible, as there is Club Utopia. Perhaps someone could be the tour guide there.

I have heard alot of interesting things about Utopia.

Ivy

bunchofun
03-28-03, 12:24
Um.....What is the deal?Does Fort Wayne have something against sex?
Got a new phonebook last week and now there are even less agencies
than before...Just as well, they were always hit or miss anyway.
So, looking for info on great non agency gurlz......
Thanks

Huteh
03-28-03, 12:41
Bunchofun - I agree. This city is VERY uptight about sex. I recently moved here and upon doing so I was told it was the "Church Capital of the World." But Ft Wayne is backwards in many ways when it comes to their clubs, strip clubs, and the like. The less fun you can have the more fun it is for the powers that be apparently.

I find myself taking many trips back to Ohio where Im from to have some fun. Sad that one has to drive 2 hours each way to do so, but Ft. Wayne offers nothing. Too conservative.

Making a trip up to Kendalville Spa next week. I'll report on that then.

bunchofun
03-28-03, 13:21
Hey, what's in Ohio?
I was thinking about making a 3 hour trip to Windsor.
Unless you have good info on Ohio.....

stevealluna
03-28-03, 22:34
heres the URL for Klub Utopia http://www.klubutopia.com/ i really dont know anything about myself but iv heard of it :)

Warpig2000
03-29-03, 00:26
Utopia is an on-premises Swingers club. Which means, if your wife or significant other (or even a 'casual' female friend) can be talked into the idea of trying some 'sexual adventurism' you have nothing to worry about- go, meet other couples, don't act like a total horses arse and sooner or later you'll find another couple that want to get down and dirty with you and your partner.

If on the other hand you got a traditional-minded wife and you're trying to sneak around on her, get a escort or hooker or maybe a hj at a masage parlor now and then- or you're a single guy who doesn't know any 'playful civilian ladies' then I guess you're shit out of luck. As this is a message board about commercial sex, I would imagine that well over 90% of us mongers fall in one of these later catagories. Probably ain't for the majority of us here, but if you can use the URL below, enjoy!!!

FortWayneDude
03-29-03, 00:46
Originally posted by Warpig2000
Utopia is an on-premises Swingers club. Which means, if your wife or significant other (or even a 'casual' female friend) can be talked into the idea of trying some 'sexual adventurism' you have nothing to worry about- go, meet other couples, don't act like a total horses arse and sooner or later you'll find another couple that want to get down and dirty with you and your partner.

If on the other hand you got a traditional-minded wife and you're trying to sneak around on her, get a escort or hooker or maybe a hj at a masage parlor now and then- or you're a single guy who doesn't know any 'playful civilian ladies' then I guess you're shit out of luck. As this is a message board about commercial sex, I would imagine that well over 90% of us mongers fall in one of these later catagories. Probably ain't for the majority of us here, but if you can use the URL below, enjoy!!!

Well said WarPig2k

FortWayneDude
03-29-03, 00:48
Not that I am going there, but am merely curious...but I heard from a friend that the graveyard on the near east side of downtown holds sw's during the summer.

Is this true?

I guess they would be GW's (graveyard walkers)?

Not sure I could even get excited in that environment, although I am sure you just pick them up and go somewhere.

anybody heard of this?

Is there actually any street action anywhere in fort wayne at anytime?

Warpig2000
03-29-03, 11:19
Actually, I kind of find the idea of GW's appealing.

but then again, I'm one of those whackos into GOTH music, Anne Rice, Interview with a Vampire..... Sometimes I like 'em big like Ivy, other times a MORTICIA ADAMS would be nice LOL.

And no, haven't done it in a coffin..... yet!!! :D

MrWiggles
04-01-03, 19:06
Originally posted by fortwaynedude
Not that I am going there, but am merely curious...but I heard from a friend that the graveyard on the near east side of downtown holds sw's during the summer.

Is this true?

I guess they would be GW's (graveyard walkers)?

Not sure I could even get excited in that environment, although I am sure you just pick them up and go somewhere.

anybody heard of this?

Is there actually any street action anywhere in fort wayne at anytime?

Took a ride through the cemetery the last couple days. As expected, things seem dead.

Just remember - the last person who will ever put you down - is the undertaker.

On a different note - anyone seen Bridget lately? Read her reviews elsewhere and there were a couple "bigger than I expected" and "rushed" comments. Wondered if anyone has more recent info on her to share.

Relaxation Station has hired a couple new ladies, but I've yet been able to get an appointment on short notice. Each time I've called, they've been booked for the day already. I don't do well planning days ahead.

Stopped by 4 Seasons and HBM. I didn't stay at either. No one new at either place except for Jenny at HBM. She looks to have potential but I was looking for Ruby or Tammie. All the ones I'd like to see are still on "vacation".

This town is so dead right now, it's like a big graveyard.

FortWayneDude
04-02-03, 12:54
USSmaximus,
FIrst, I gotta know where this happened at.

I would do the following:
1. Ask if any other women are available
IF they say yes, ask to see another woman. If asked, just say the woman is not your taste.

In general, unless it is REALLY bad, I generally just change what I want based on the girl and have only asked for another girl one time. I did get another girl without problem.

McDuff
04-09-03, 22:39
Well things sure got quiet while I was away.

I would like any up to date info you all can provide on any action around this city. Please.

Last time I was in the Fort you could always find SW,s around Broadway, now I can't find any, must have had a big clean up huh? Or perhaps they've moved elsewhere?

Warpig2000
04-10-03, 13:37
Hope I'm not going to start the flaming again: I saw Ivy Tuesday after a period of emails and IM's. I was very satisfied with the service I got.

Lets clear the air here- visually. She is a BIG girl- no getting around that. Her website is not up at this time, but I know of a comparable escort in Los Angeles who has a very simmular figure and here are Lady Lily's pics: http://www.ladylily.com/photo.html
I've saw Lily about 3 years ago and her and Ivy aren't necessarily twins but they could be first cousins, the body you see with Lily's pics will be very simmular to Ivy.... if anything, Lily is slightly BIGGER than Ivy.

Met Ivy at her incall location. Yes it is a 'cheap hotel' but has had some very nice personal touches added to it. Candles, incence... She was a pear-shaped female with very large breasts which definately sag, but were great for Russian. bbw . I thought she had an extremely pretty face. Being a larger guy myself, I am often more comfortable with a larger woman. If you like big girls she's a great bargain, but may not be for everyone. She is personable, if a bit shy, I found her to be just a little more reserved than my impression online but I guess she will warm up to you with time.

Ivy is very warm and affectionate- she is an awesome kisser and is very vocal when being pleased. Her oral skills are notably good. I left drained and happy.

I can't emphasise enough that the performance factor was very good- there was bang for the buck. Once we got going she did not hold back. She was open to all my suggestions. It was definately my opinion of a GFE and I really intend to see this lady again.

I hope this review somewhat sets the record straight. If you like LARGE women (or in my case, like variety- all sorts of women in different sizes including large) You will probably have fun with Ivy.
If you don't, look elsewhere. I hope this forum can move forward from here without controversy, and I give Ivy credit for sticking things out on here, not many ladies here for us mongers on WSG.

Warpig2000
04-10-03, 13:46
One more little tidbit: A link to an article Lady Lily wrote entitled "Diary of a BBW Escort". Interesting from the point of view of a plus sized girl in the sex industry, how she got in, what kind of gentlemen seek them out, dealing with slams and rude comments, etc. I am very proud to have known Lily, to have seen her as a client (over 2 years ago) and to still have an online friendship with her.

Her thoughts are very much on topic: http://www.sexwork.com/whatisnew/diaryofbbw.html

McDuff
04-12-03, 02:08
Hey all, went to South Bend tonight to hook up, it's a long drive but with little info on Fort Wayne decided to take the hike. It was worth the trip.

Philster
04-14-03, 17:56
Hey, just wondering about action in Fort Wayne, I am here on business this week from my regular hungting grounds of Chicago and do enjoy full-figured voluptious women. Does Ivy still make herself available? Does she have an agency or some other number to be contacted by?

Thanks,
Philster

Ynot
04-15-03, 12:48
Philster,

The info you are looking for is available if you look at older posts, but I'll save you the effort. Ivy's profile is available on escorts.com under the handle of ivyatplay. You can also e-mail her at ivyatplay@hotmail.com.

I've never seen Ivy as it is a long drive from where I am in Illinois, but she seems like a real sweetie and she's had a lot of good reviews sans the flaming that went on here recently.

Hope this helps.

FortWayneDude
04-19-03, 11:19
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information for Men who are looking for sex with Women.

Please try to refrain from personal attacks and stick to the subject.

Jackson

Ynot
04-19-03, 15:05
fortwaynedude,

You're telling me to "let things be?" All I was doing was trying to do was help Philster out w/ info regarding Ivy to save him from having to do a lot of research. You say that "those of us commenting about ivy were not doing so in a flaming manner. We had legitimate complaints and concerns." You're right in that you had legitimate complaints and concerns, and if all you were doing was commenting, then that would be one thing. But you went ahead and got personal with insults instead of dealing strictly with the issue, and that fits anyone's definition of "flaming." You even admitted to Ivy that you insulted her, for which you apologized.

Ivy made a number of mistakes, for which she apologized, and is trying to make things right. I think she would have made those changes if you would have simply stuck with the issues without personally attacking her. To her credit, I have never seen her get personal with anyone. She has been a great asset not only to this board but has given a lot of helpful info on other boards as well.

As long as she continues to be the kind and helpful person that she is, I will continue to support her. And if anyone inquires about her, I will continue to provide the information that I can honestly provide, as I did in Philster's case. I said nothing wrong or inaccurate, so now it's time for you to "let things be."

aegis41
04-20-03, 20:08
I noticed that Bridgette is no longer on www.escorts.com. Has she left the biz? Does anyone have any news on her?

FortWayneDude
04-20-03, 22:07
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information for Men who are looking for sex with Women.

Please try to refrain from personal attacks and stick to the subject.

Jackson

aegis41
04-20-03, 23:38
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information for Men who are looking for sex with Women.

Please try to refrain from personal attacks and stick to the subject.

Jackson

FortWayneDude
04-21-03, 20:28
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information for Men who are looking for sex with Women.

Please try to refrain from personal attacks and stick to the subject.

Jackson

FortWayneDude
04-21-03, 20:33
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information for Men who are looking for sex with Women.

Please try to refrain from personal attacks and stick to the subject.

Jackson

Skyhawk97
04-21-03, 21:37
Hey mcduff.

When you were in South Bend what were you looking for, and what places did you hit? Any good outcomes? I will be driving through South Bend next week.

McDuff
04-22-03, 03:37
Thank you Jackson, for showing who runs this board!

Please, can we get back to what this board is for?

Any info on Ft Wayne would be nice, there hasn't been anything new in quite some time.
Thanks,

McDuff

GoodoleboyIN
04-22-03, 16:40
Any info on Warsaw- Cat's Den in particular? WIll be in that area later this week.

Also, Elkart seems to be very slow.

FortWayneDude
04-22-03, 22:01
Originally posted by fortwaynedude
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information for Men who are looking for sex with Women.

Please try to refrain from personal attacks and stick to the subject.

Jackson With all due respect, I am not looking for sex with women.

I am looking for companionship, anything else that happens is just what happens between two consenting adults.

Now that's really perverted.

Jackson

Hmmm, moderators posting under my name? I do not think I like that idea.

Either way. It is one thing to DO something, but quite another to go on a board and literally describe it.

We all know WHAT we do, and what we are looking for. But many have been in trouble for WHAT they say about it in a forum, to a friend, or to someone they thought was a friend.

So. Mr. Jackson, you can call it perverted all you wish, but I call it smart.

I, as I have said before, only look for companionship with a woman.

Whatever else happens is just what happens between consenting adults. With that statement, I can guarantee that everyday I will be free to make that statement and keep looking for "companionship".

As the "moderator" you get some respect from me. But as a computer programmer, I know that it doesn't take much intelligence to buy a domain and install a bbs on it. I would think you would try to have more intelligence than what has been required to accomplish the task of this web site.

In fact, I believe another bbs site like this one was in trouble for a while for reasons just like that. That site did eventually get out of trouble, but I am quite sure they had legal fees involved. No sense drawing attention, and no sense saying things that DO NOT HAVE to be said to accomplish all of our goals.

FYI: Your comment about my comment being preverted basically goes against your INSTRUCTIONS to the rest of us about posting.

It was a joke, dude. Lighten up.

Jackson

Ivy
04-22-03, 23:36
Info about a new escort in Fort Wayne.

I saw her listed at escorts.com. Her name is Sherry. She is 41. Her interview stated prefers the company of men her age. Her profile says she is white 5'9, and slender. Her eyes are brown and her hair is brunette. She smokes, doesnt drink, if that info matters at all..:) Her contact info is in her profile.

Someone asked about Bridgette. I saw a posting from her at another message board. I believe she is or was in Indy. Still in the business, based on her posting.

I am passing on this info because I know and understand variety is the spice of life. Also because I know not everyone prefers BBWs. I also thought it is time for this forum to go back to sharing info.

I apologize for my posts that were here recently which didnt contain info. That is all I will say concerning it. I am going to respect Jackson's post.

Ivy

MrWiggles
04-23-03, 00:10
Originally posted by fortwaynedude
With all due respect, I am not looking for sex with women.

I am looking for companionship, anything else that happens is just what happens between two consenting adults.
Fortwaynedude:

After reading the first sentence - I became worried about you. But your second one helped clarify.

I'll make you a deal, because I am looking for sex with women and not companionship. If I find any that want to be companions, I'll send them your way. If you find any just interested in sex and not companionship, please send them my way. But don't send any BBW's.

Any I must thank Ivy for beginning to post some useful information.

I did go to Kendalville last week and Sissy is gone, thank goodness. It has improved and wasn't a wasted drive. The new girls say they will be there through the summer.

McDuff
04-24-03, 23:26
Originally posted by Skyhawk97
Hey mcduff.

When you were in South Bend what were you looking for, and what places did you hit? Any good outcomes? I will be driving through South Bend next week. I picked up a decent (7 or 8) little blond, no problems, great experience. I suggest you go through the SBN board before you go up, this is where I got my info from. I have not been to any establishments as of yet, but, with as much LE as I saw up there I may go that route next time.

McDuff

HappyGardener
05-01-03, 09:17
Originally posted by fortwaynedude
With all due respect, I am not looking for sex with women.

I am looking for companionship, anything else that happens is just what happens between two consenting adults.

Now that's really perverted.

Jackson

It was a joke, dude. Lighten up.

Jackson

See what happens when you don't use emoticons Jackson? :)
Some people don't appreciate irony.

Thanks for stepping in, although this series of posts was highly entertaining when it was going on. ( And if I could remember any more of those goofy smily faces, I stick three or four in right now.)

FortWayneDude
05-05-03, 08:20
I am not really sure how/why you mention "not talking bad about anyone".

I contacted Sherry Ross and had no contact issues.

Many times escorts will cease contact with a perspective client.
This can be done for many reasons such as:
1. Bad feeling about the perspective client (pc)
2. PC says something unacceptable
3. PC goes out of the allowable bounds


Sounds to me as if Sherry Ross might be picky.

As for the name change, I see nothing wrong with this.

We all know that escorts do not use their real names.

Fake name 1, or fake name 2, it is all fake so what is the difference?

She could have changed it because "sherry ross" is more appealing than "Cathy Huney" is.

She could have changed it just to create a new account because a pc was stalking/harrassing her.

I think we should not be judgemental, or have inuendos in our posting of news like this.

If you also notice, her new profile does not include a picture. Her old one did.

This could be she is hiding from someone.

Escorting is very dangerous, the more attractive an escort is, the more appealing she is to the masses and therefore more vulnerable to stalkers/harrassers.

GoodoleboyIN
05-05-03, 08:45
Sometimes they even post a fake picture .........well no more on that topic.

MrWiggles
05-15-03, 22:43
Finally took a ride over to Warsaw. Tried Dee's. I was surprised to be greeted by this lovely young lady. I thought I was in for a treat. Choose the shower and massage from their menu. Took the shower first. She did a nice job showering me. Then a very nice massage. But hard as I tried, couldn't get any extras from her. She says they don't do that there, but I was welcome to take care of things myself while she continued to massage me. I said thanks, but no thanks. She was a looker and very friendly, but no extras. Has anyone else had any luck with her. I think her name is Tasha. She says she's been there about a month. So I then tried Cat's Den. Three ladies there to choose from. All about 5's. I chose Amanda, as she was the only one wearing a skirt and had a low cut top. Not as nice of a massage as at Dee's, but finished with a handshake for a reasonable tip.

Also visited Four Seasons last week. Mamason said new girls. I saw Jai? (Jaye or maybe it was Jade)). Her good years are in the past. A rushed table shower, a rushed massage and I almost turned down her offer when she asked if I wanted to play. I should have just said no. The hand shake was rushed and rough as well. She must not plan to be there long as she did nothing to want me to come back to see her again.

Things sure aren't as good as they used to be. In the 70s and 80s in conservative Columbus Ohio, there were about 25 good massage parlors - not AMPs - many with theme rooms, good looking SWs that weren't drugged up and plenty of go-go bars with ladies ready and willing to make a few more $ after closing. Those were the days my friends!