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Goser
10-25-14, 12:34
I think the best thing that has ever happened in Hawaii is Ivy and her AMP Empire Relaxation. Ivy has brought a business model to Hawaii that works and is dominating the market. It is working so well that the other AMPs seem to be reacting because I feel like just about everyone (that I frequent) is providing a higher level of service. What is it exactly that Ivy does that is working so well? What can other AMPs learn from her? What do other successful AMPs do that works well for you? I am creating this thread in the hopes that other AMP owners or Mamas come here to learn some techniques for improving their service levels to us mongers.

What I would start with is that Empire is so successful because Ivy maintains a stable of young girls (usually 25 or younger) that provide a minimum standard of service. Table Shower, BBBJ, MSOG, etc can be expected from all girls. And since she posts real pictures of her girls. If a girl strikes your fancy, you know that it is going to be a good value for your money.

What are your thoughts?

Local1234
10-25-14, 14:02
I think the best thing that has ever happened in Hawaii is Ivy and her AMP Empire Relaxation. Ivy has brought a business model to Hawaii that works and is dominating the market. It is working so well that the other AMPs seem to be reacting because I feel like just about everyone (that I frequent) is providing a higher level of service. What is it exactly that Ivy does that is working so well? What can other AMPs learn from her? What do other successful AMPs do that works well for you? I am creating this thread in the hopes that other AMP owners or Mamas come here to learn some techniques for improving their service levels to us mongers.

What I would start with is that Empire is so successful because Ivy maintains a stable of young girls (usually 25 or younger) that provide a minimum standard of service. Table Shower, BBBJ, MSOG, etc can be expected from all girls. And since she posts real pictures of her girls. If a girl strikes your fancy, you know that it is going to be a good value for your money.

What are your thoughts?And keep the place sanatized with clean towels.

Redneck 1
10-25-14, 14:49
I think the best thing that has ever happened in Hawaii is Ivy and her AMP Empire Relaxation. Ivy has brought a business model to Hawaii that works and is dominating the market. It is working so well that the other AMPs seem to be reacting because I feel like just about everyone (that I frequent) is providing a higher level of service. What is it exactly that Ivy does that is working so well? What can other AMPs learn from her? What do other successful AMPs do that works well for you? I am creating this thread in the hopes that other AMP owners or Mamas come here to learn some techniques for improving their service levels to us mongers.

What I would start with is that Empire is so successful because Ivy maintains a stable of young girls (usually 25 or younger) that provide a minimum standard of service. Table Shower, BBBJ, MSOG, etc can be expected from all girls. And since she posts real pictures of her girls. If a girl strikes your fancy, you know that it is going to be a good value for your money.

What are your thoughts?Here are a few additional factors (in my opinion) for a "perfect" AMP:

(1) A playful, cheerful mamasan who physically stimulates customers and occasionally participates in some of the festivities (as at CHM).

(2) A mamasan who asks customers for their evaluations of their experiences and genuinely appreciates feedback, including polite constructive criticism.

(3) Providers who enjoy threesomes, including girl-girl action.

(4) At least some providers who offer uncommon activities.

(5) A discounted house fee, or at least a "free" house fee after a certain number of paid visits.

(6) A full hour of time if the customer wants it, especially for repeat customers.

(7) One or more large wall mirrors in the room.

(8) Sufficient air-conditioning, especially on hot days.

(9) Adequate lighting in the room.

(10) A full-pressure shower with lots of warm water available.

DangerBoy
10-25-14, 16:03
More white girls. Yeah, I know, FOJ Asian girls are popular, but throw guys like me who aren't into them a bone or two and have a hot blue-eyed, blonde-haired girl from Nebraska or Georgia on staff -- or at least a local haole chick. (There used to be a surfer girl who worked at Aloha Avenue (a place behind HMSA back in the '90's) who was smoking hot. Saw her a few times before they got shut down. Haven't found another like her.).

Yeah, I know, hot white girls who give good service is a unicorn at these places, but since you're asking what makes a PERFECT AMP.

Hornysamowen
10-25-14, 16:19
I think the best thing that has ever happened in Hawaii is Ivy and her AMP Empire Relaxation. Ivy has brought a business model to Hawaii that works and is dominating the market. It is working so well that the other AMPs seem to be reacting because I feel like just about everyone (that I frequent) is providing a higher level of service. What is it exactly that Ivy does that is working so well? What can other AMPs learn from her? What do other successful AMPs do that works well for you? I am creating this thread in the hopes that other AMP owners or Mamas come here to learn some techniques for improving their service levels to us mongers.

What I would start with is that Empire is so successful because Ivy maintains a stable of young girls (usually 25 or younger) that provide a minimum standard of service. Table Shower, BBBJ, MSOG, etc can be expected from all girls. And since she posts real pictures of her girls. If a girl strikes your fancy, you know that it is going to be a good value for your money.

What are your thoughts?If Empire becomes an FKK club type thing too, that would put the other places out of business.

Goser
10-26-14, 13:28
Here are a few additional factors (in my opinion) for a "perfect" AMP:

(1) A playful, cheerful mamasan who physically stimulates customers and occasionally participates in some of the festivities (as at CHM).

(2) A mamasan who asks customers for their evaluations of their experiences and genuinely appreciates feedback, including polite constructive criticism.

(3) Providers who enjoy threesomes, including girl-girl action.

(4) At least some providers who offer uncommon activities.

(5) A discounted house fee, or at least a "free" house fee after a certain number of paid visits.

(6) A full hour of time if the customer wants it, especially for repeat customers.

(7) One or more large wall mirrors in the room.

(8) Sufficient air-conditioning, especially on hot days.

(9) Adequate lighting in the room.

(10) A full-pressure shower with lots of warm water available.This is a great list. I hope some mamas come here to learn.

I spent a few hours this week with Yoyo at Mayflower just talking story. She is a good, kind hearted person. Unfortunately, she is not a great business woman. She has some really good talent right now and they are not as busy as they should be.

Viet Whisperer
10-26-14, 16:49
BTB table shower as standard service.

I enjoy the girls who help dress me and dry me off in shower. It's just a nice little touch that shows they care about service.

Rico Suave808
10-26-14, 16:58
BTB table shower as standard service.

I enjoy the girls who help dress me and dry me off in shower. It's just a nice little touch that shows they care about service.Gives this kind of service. She washes and dries you off in the shower room. After you are finished in the room she completely dresses you including putting on your socks and tying your shoes. Her service cannot be beaten anywhere.

Atmatic123
10-27-14, 02:10
Haven chimed in in a while but wanted to share my thoughts on this as I feel very strongly about this topic.

Here's my list of what makes a good AMP.

1) top of the list is a no brainer, have descent to good talent, now days especially reading reports about the good old days expecting a lineup of all 10's in looks, service and attitude seems impossible but at least strive to have lineup of top talent that all offer the same services.

2) GET RID OF THIS YMMV SHIT! I understand that these places cannot control there traffic and they will have drunk off there ass assholes stumbling in. In that case then power to girls and if they want to treat the guy like shit for strolling in drunk and acting like an ass and treating them like crap then they deserve to get crappy service. But for me I have been on the receving end of the YMMV shit the wrong way too many times. I never walk in drunk, I always dress nice clean my self up and spray on some cologne yet because I'm not good looking like these other mongers or at least average looking I've gotten treated like shit by some top level talent who based on other reports gave top service to other mongers. Would help if the Mama would at least ask me how it was after but most don't give a fuck they just want there house fee and after that its just get rid of me as fast as they can.

3) TIME! We pay for an hour so we deserve to have the fucking hour! And the TIMER STARTS WHEN THE GIRL WALKS IN THE ROOM! Some places give me the hour but others like Tokyo spa rip you off to like 40 fucking minutes. My last ever visit with Stella I remember it being 40 min? Maybe even a little shorter.

4) Mamasan who is friendly. Mama Hena who I remember from roses, top spa and I think now is at Hula girl is my favorite. She is so sweet and always makes me feel welcomed whenever I see her. The famous Mama Ivy is also worth mentioning I only met her once not as frienldy as Mama Hena but very Professional. She understands her line of business to a T and seems to take pride in making sure we have a good experience.

5) Atmosphere is another one I take into account. I can understand how nerve racking it can be when a monger makes the decision to visit an AMP and take a descent down the walk of shame, but then to make it through the doors and get awkward starres from the providers all sitting on the couches and then have a rude mama grab you and force you into one of the rooms doesn't make the experience any better. Some places who are nautorious for this in my experience are VIP, Tokyo Spa, and China Doll Spa. VIP is the worst I remember many times before I found these boards I would go there and granted its one of the worst walk of shames for an AMP and when I walked in they always had a packed house of girls all sitting around and they would always give me these awkward judgemental stares so most times I would just leave. Thankfully because this place is the dumps when it comes to service and attitude. Tokyo Spa surprisingly makes me feel very unwelcomed when I walk in, they also have the girls sitting on the couches although they don't give as bad a vibe as VIP most of them either just look the other way when I walk in or give me a very unwelcoming almost mean look. Doesn't deter me because when I used to go to Tokyo spa I always had an appointment but I thought wow if I was here to just pick a girl I would be walking out as well.

For me these five things are so simple yet so hard because I have not been to an AMP that had all or at least most of these. Although I still have to be thankful because of what we have in hawaii because I was in vegas and FUCK!! My friend brought some escorts to our room and they were fucking ugly! And to top it off the one that I was left with was a fucking *****! She was fat not hot and gave me so much attitude I just asked her to leave. REally made me appreciate the hawaii AMP scene. But still the AMP scene here can be so much better then what we got now. Too bad because I see it continuing to slide down hill.

The Lone Wolf
10-27-14, 05:00
I think your #2 item hit the nail on the head. For me, the ones that have no YMMV reports are the best. CHM & Kison exceed in this department. Although Empire doesn't always offer BBFS, at least it's "known" that CFS is the norm, and you go there expecting that, so it fits in that category also. When I really need a good AMP experience, NOTHING beats going to somewhere / someone whom you KNOW exactly what you'll get. Especially what extras and number of pops.

Sticker
10-28-14, 09:27
IMHO, if Ivy would encourage her entourage to shave their ripe, young nanis, Empire would certainly be close to the perfect AMP. I understand that some of you like the brillo pads, but for us DATY lovers, we prefer to get our dental floss at home.

Goser
10-28-14, 14:14
As I mentioned earlier, I think one of the reasons Empire is so successful is that most of the girls provide a minimum level of service that is very high. I don't think that most AMPs can do that given how they recruit talent. As an alternative, what if you knew ahead of time what services they did provide? How helpful would that be? I doubt they can post it to the website for legal and LE reasons. But, perhaps we as the customer community can compile such a list. I know that often times I will see a hottie but want to wait to see a review to see if the services she provides meets my own minimum standard. You can't convey attitude and service quality so we still need the reviews, but it would help us by giving more guys a reason to TOFTT.

Bikini
10-28-14, 14:22
I like real pictures showing the face and vital statistics just like Empire. I would like to see the age listed too, for girls younger than 25.

Hipp21
10-28-14, 14:47
I'd like to add discsreet parking and entryway.

Uki Eater
10-28-14, 15:45
I know that often times I will see a hottie but want to wait to see a review to see if the services she provides meets my own minimum standard. You can't convey attitude and service quality so we still need the reviews, but it would help us by giving more guys a reason to TOFTT.I would try her if I'm instantly attracted to her looks and she's giving good vibes. It can be a turn on when you don't know what's on the menu yet. If you do know the menu beforehand, you're more inclined to have it follow through when you do see her. This can often times lead to disappointment when you don't get it because you expect to get what others got.

"Awww shit, she didn't offer it. Damn!

If there's bad reviews on a provider but, I think she's cute, I'll sample her. The reason is because it can be a turn on trying to get good service from her. At least I know that based on the bad reviews, I know what I'm getting myself into. If I'm not able to get good service from her, it's okay because I'm not the only one. Hehe.

RickJames808
10-28-14, 16:24
1. Standardized service: I know what I'm getting. A minimum of BBBJ, TS, and massage would be awesome. If a girl offers extras for a charge then cool. The MS must be business oriented and a charming hostess. She must be a dictator if necessary and ensure the girls are service oriented. Her way or the highway.

1 a: Truth in advertising. Real pics by someone who knows how to take a decent fucking picture. May not get faces but at the very least the hot bod I see in the pic is current and available.

2. Decent line up: nice to gorgeous looking girls. If the place is really good the girls should be competing to get through the door.

3: Variety: Asians are tops but a varied diet of good providers (of different ethnicities) is best. Imagine a joint with Ivy (VIP), Angel (Sunflower), Yuri (Seven), Honey (Seven / Ginza), Jasmine (various), Osi (Hula's) Vanilla, Molly (5 Star), Selena (empire) and Sophie (Empire) all providing at a minimum BBBJ, table shower, and a massage. There would literally be a line around the block like its Krispy Kreme or some shit.

4: Decent prices with multi visit incentive. To get the best line up the services would command a slight bump over most places. Would definitely allow MS to screen the best girls and give the girls incentive to perform or haul ass. That won't sit well with most but I don't mind paying a little more for a better product.

5: Clean comfortable establishment. Some fucking cushioning on those torture racks they call beds would be nice.

6: Jazz it up. Make it fun. I'll never forget walking through the door of a PI brothel and all the girls were dressed as schoolgirls like it was audition night for a J-Porn vid. The naughtier ones without panties! The next night I came they were all in lingerie. The next night nurses (great port visit that was! Like a girl but can't decide? How about a sample blowjob from the two of them. Let'them compete for your scrilla! A lap dance while you wait for your girl or room.

Yeah I know, no fuckin way you will get all of that under one roof but this is a fantasy thread. These are elements I have experienced from different places. If I were setting up a joint this would be my ideal operation. RickJames' Heaven On Earth (HOE)!

KoaBear8
11-02-14, 09:54
This is a great list. I hope some mamas come here to learn.

I spent a few hours this week with Yoyo at Mayflower just talking story. She is a good, kind hearted person. Unfortunately, she is not a great business woman. She has some really good talent right now and they are not as busy as they should be.That's because she posts BS fake photos. AND she does not hold the girls to a minimum standard of expected service where the bar is pretty high. I agree that Ivy seems to be doing well in this aspect as of late. She does not always do this but lately she has been. If she can continue what she (Ivy) is currently doing and continue to make the place better, it (Empire) will be much better.

KoaBear8
11-02-14, 10:07
and take a descent down the walk of shameI don't know why some people like yourself consider to participating in this hobby shameful. There is no shame in it. Perhaps there are confidence issues that need to be taken care of.


IMHO, if Ivy would encourage her entourage to shave their ripe, young nanis, Empire would certainly be close to the perfect AMP. I understand that some of you like the brillo pads, but for us DATY lovers, we prefer to get our dental floss at home.Nope. Because then those of us who prefer natural hairy nanis would complain. This area should be left up to the individual girl's discretion.


1. Standardized service: A minimum of BBBJ, TS, GFE, multiple pops, and massage would be awesome.Fixed.

LuvBigRax
11-03-14, 13:01
My top things would be:

1. Service- BBFS should be available to those who want it.

2. Variety- should come in all shapes and sizes.

3. Safety- girls should get tested periodically for std.


1. Standardized service: I know what I'm getting. A minimum of BBBJ, TS, and massage would be awesome. If a girl offers extras for a charge then cool. The MS must be business oriented and a charming hostess. She must be a dictator if necessary and ensure the girls are service oriented. Her way or the highway.

1 a: Truth in advertising. Real pics by someone who knows how to take a decent fucking picture. May not get faces but at the very least the hot bod I see in the pic is current and available.

2. Decent line up: nice to gorgeous looking girls. If the place is really good the girls should be competing to get through the door.

3: Variety: Asians are tops but a varied diet of good providers (of different ethnicities) is best. Imagine a joint with Ivy (VIP), Angel (Sunflower), Yuri (Seven), Honey (Seven / Ginza), Jasmine (various), Osi (Hula's) Vanilla, Molly (5 Star), Selena (empire) and Sophie (Empire) all providing at a minimum BBBJ, table shower, and a massage. There would literally be a line around the block like its Krispy Kreme or some shit.

4: Decent prices with multi visit incentive. To get the best line up the services would command a slight bump over most places. Would definitely allow MS to screen the best girls and give the girls incentive to perform or haul ass. That won't sit well with most but I don't mind paying a little more for a better product.

5: Clean comfortable establishment. Some fucking cushioning on those torture racks they call beds would be nice.

6: Jazz it up. Make it fun. I'll never forget walking through the door of a PI brothel and all the girls were dressed as schoolgirls like it was audition night for a J-Porn vid. The naughtier ones without panties! The next night I came they were all in lingerie. The next night nurses (great port visit that was! Like a girl but can't decide? How about a sample blowjob from the two of them. Let'them compete for your scrilla! A lap dance while you wait for your girl or room.

Yeah I know, no fuckin way you will get all of that under one roof but this is a fantasy thread. These are elements I have experienced from different places. If I were setting up a joint this would be my ideal operation. RickJames' Heaven On Earth (HOE)!

Smokin Gun
11-05-14, 20:52
There are a few AMPs that are so busy as compared to other AMPs. I hope other mamasans are reading this because it is obvious why.

1. Young and pretty girls. When I mean young, I mean 20's. Not 30's, 40's, or heaven forbid 50 and up.

2. Regular turnover of girls. At least one or two new girls are coming in every 3 to 4 weeks. The girls that have been there for a while are relocated elsewhere.

3. Actual photos of the girls on backpages that are not blurred out. If the actual photos of them that are not blurred out will really make mongers know what they are getting from a looks standpoint. Mongers can't stand being conned or getting the bait-and-switch. Also, there is a much better chance that the monger will stay once they get to the AMP instead of turning around and leaving because the mongers don't like any of the girls looks.

4. Being able to get a body-to-body table shower or stand-up shower with the girl.

5. Having girls that offer services like multiple shots, rimming, cum on body or face, BBBJCIM and fiv. Not all the girls need to offer all of these services, but at least some girls offer some of these services.

6. BBBJ but again not necessarily BBBJCIM.

7. Adequate mirrors and lighting. Some AMPs are too dark in the rooms and have no mirrors.

8. Getting close to the full one hour of service from the girl. This means not being reminded by the girl or mamasan that time is almost up until it's close to the one hour mark.

I think most mongers know which AMPs provide these things are which don't. Hopefully, mamasans and owners will also learn this too.

Anything else anyone want to add?

KoaBear8
11-06-14, 08:05
There are a few AMPs that are so busy as compared to other AMPs.A few? I only know of one. Empire.

Historically, I am not a fan at all of them but my last appointment there was really nice. And I know of no other AMP that post actual photos of the girls and a seemingly nice standard package. Or am I missing another AMP on Empire's level? (I don't think so honestly though.).

Smokin Gun
11-06-14, 13:50
A few? I only know of one. Empire.

Historically, I am not a fan at all of them but my last appointment there was really nice. And I know of no other AMP that post actual photos of the girls and a seemingly nice standard package. Or am I missing another AMP on Empire's level? (I don't think so honestly though.).Actually, you are probably correct KoaBear8.

Asstro
11-06-14, 13:52
I'd like to add discsreet parking and entryway.Empire does not have a sign or even an "open" sign. Only we know what is in that door on the lanai by the street, LOL. The mama says don't have to knock, just come in. She lets you wait in a room for the girls to come by, and assures you that you don't have to pay or stay if you don't see something you like.

KoaBear8
11-06-14, 17:52
She...assures you that you don't have to pay or stay if you don't see something you like.Every AMP is like that. You don't like, you leave and shop around until you find one that is to your liking. That is the joy of having so many AMPs here.

With that mind, any AMPs reading this should always put their best foot forward with the first impression. Luckily, I gave the Ivy another chance at Empire and she didn't disappoint but the mannish and sloppy first impression she gave me will never go away. (I really liked how she was wearing pajamas during my last appointment.).

ShootngStarBoy
01-09-17, 09:45
TEHO but everyone has there favorite AMP. Currently I rotate going to seven different AMPs. I am not rating my AMP on variables such a walk or shame, parking and location. All AMP have some type walk of shame issue, that is why the location factors are excluded. Therefore excluding these factors; walk of shame, location and parking then I would say MHO for best AMP is Happiness. This is based on 1) the variety of girls. Happiness has so many girls in there rotation and has a girl for every type of guy. 2) Consistency on service. PSE or GFE or if you like BBFS or CFS, or DFK or LFK the girls can do it all. 3) The mamas are so friendly. Often times they will invite you into the kitchen for lunch, dinner or desert! If Happy herself does of invite you into the kitchen for dinner and drinks then one of the handful of girls will. There are at least 2 girls that will do this including the two mamas. Treat them with respect and be nice. Be humble and grateful and hospitality from happiness will be reciprocated ten fold.

ProfessorGun69
01-16-17, 05:26
Nirvana is the best AMP! They have girls that will CFS and BBFS. The have GFE and PSE at Nirvana. The best part is I always get 60 minutes there, not 50 minutes like most other AMPs. Happiness is right above a Bar and Restaurant. Also about 5 feet away is a gaming room for some reason the gaming room customers like to hang around on the stairs or in the parking lot below happiness or ride their bicycles around in the parking lot by the bar below. At least with Nirvana the bar Di's Karaoke is about 90 to 100 feet away! The main doors to the bar are facing the other way too. Therefore the walk of shame is not so bad. All AMPs have some degree of Walk Of Shame.

ElonHusk
01-27-17, 15:50
Don't think there is such a thing as perfect for an AMP but the closest one would have been Empire.

1. Good stable of quality providers.

2. Excellent rotation of new providers.

3. Discreet location.

4. Friendly Mama. Ivy always treated me well.

5. Clean rooms (upstair rooms were the bomb).

6. Table shower.

7. House fee $50.

8. Always offered a beverage while there.

What could have been better.

1. Limited English with many girls.

2. Sparse parking available.

3. Too Popular. Not really a negative (Damn. I can only think of 3 bad points. There must be more. Now I really miss this place. Ivy, send a relative / friend of yours to start up Empire 2. The Empire Strikes Back!

DrMajikLuv69
02-02-18, 00:21
Don't think there is such a thing as perfect for an AMP but the closest one would have been Empire.

1. Good stable of quality providers.

2. Excellent rotation of new providers.

3. Discreet location.

4. Friendly Mama. Ivy always treated me well.

5. Clean rooms (upstair rooms were the bomb).

6. Table shower.

7. House fee $50.

8. Always offered a beverage while there.

What could have been better.

1. Limited English with many girls.

2. Sparse parking available.

3. Too Popular. Not really a negative (Damn. I can only think of 3 bad points. There must be more. Now I really miss this place. Ivy, send a relative / friend of yours to start up Empire 2. The Empire Strikes Back!Nice list.

Blake123
02-02-18, 05:51
To answer the question. It's when all of the available girls (anywhere from 1-5 girls plus the mama) rush into the room to flirt and molest your body and cock either before of after the session with your girl. Michelle, Blue, Monica, Emma, Pearl, Mimi, Ginger, Jackie, Sheila, Lisa, mama Jun. Quite a few wild 3-somes in that place. That was Crystal Healing Massage. No other AMP like it. Best fun times I've ever had at an AMP.

Param Ahmad
02-17-18, 22:17
Don't think there is such a thing as perfect for an AMP but the closest one would have been Empire. .... Now I really miss this place. Ivy, send a relative / friend of yours to start up Empire 2.http://www.kitv.com/story/32846528/3-indicted-in-prostitution-raid-at-honolulu-massage-parlor

3 indicted in prostitution raid at Honolulu massage parlor.

Posted: Aug 26,2016 3:28 AM EDT. Updated: Sep 16,2016 3:28 AM EDT.

" *. *. * this bust isn't an isolated case. Similar massage parlors *. *. * were shut down. Empire Relaxation was one of them, closing last August. Its owners were arrested and indicted as well".

It seems law enforcement could shut down all sexually oriented massage parlors if that is the intention, but since others have stayed in business for over a year after these arrests and indictments, it apparently isn't. I wonder: What is the reason for occasionally arresting owners and employees and customers of a few of these businesses while letting other similar businesses continue operating?

P Venkman
02-20-18, 05:38
I miss having variety and having a full 30 minutes of action for half off like they did back in the day. I know the AMPs doing this were causing the other ones to lose business so they had to stop. Think there is some kind of enforcement going on that no one is talking about. Loved to just sample all the girls back then when the half hour special was on. If a girl was junk, it wasn't such a big deal as it is when you drop $$.

Makana9
02-20-18, 10:31
To answer the question. It's when all of the available girls (anywhere from 1-5 girls plus the mama) rush into the room to flirt and molest your body and cock either before of after the session with your girl. Michelle, Blue, Monica, Emma, Pearl, Mimi, Ginger, Jackie, Sheila, Lisa, mama Jun. Quite a few wild 3-somes in that place. That was Crystal Healing Massage. No other AMP like it. Best fun times I've ever had at an AMP.2Nd and third that action. Show me where? Mama come greet you and if you old timer or she like you, small kine molest you in the hallway and or room. Use to get me going so I would drop her top and molest her boobage while dry humping her in k9. Also, you could be going ground and pound on one of the ladies and monsz would open the door and get one free show watching you go fo broke? Threesomes, and even on my birthday setup one to 2 to 3 all for me, some of the best times! Even with all of the wonderful ladies, Lisa always turned my boat, somehow we clicked, would always get special birthday and holiday treatments, multi multi shots on goal, crazy times. CHM, was my go to, outside wherever Kelly and Mimz was MS. Those were the bestest.

Lucky808
02-20-18, 11:59
http://www.kitv.com/story/32846528/3-indicted-in-prostitution-raid-at-honolulu-massage-parlor

3 indicted in prostitution raid at Honolulu massage parlor.

Posted: Aug 26,2016 3:28 AM EDT. Updated: Sep 16,2016 3:28 AM EDT.

" *. *. * this bust isn't an isolated case. Similar massage parlors *. *. * were shut down. Empire Relaxation was one of them, closing last August. Its owners were arrested and indicted as well".

It seems law enforcement could shut down all sexually oriented massage parlors if that is the intention, but since others have stayed in business for over a year after these arrests and indictments, it apparently isn't. I wonder: What is the reason for occasionally arresting owners and employees and customers of a few of these businesses while letting other similar businesses continue operating?Arrested and indicted. Just recently saw Ivy nd Steve shopping, made small talk with her, they seemed to be in good spirits.

Lucky808
02-20-18, 12:11
Don't think there is such a thing as perfect for an AMP but the closest one would have been Empire.

1. Good stable of quality providers.

2. Excellent rotation of new providers.

3. Discreet location.

4. Friendly Mama. Ivy always treated me well.

5. Clean rooms (upstair rooms were the bomb).

6. Table shower.

7. House fee $50.

8. Always offered a beverage while there.

What could have been better.

1. Limited English with many girls.

2. Sparse parking available.

3. Too Popular. Not really a negative (Damn. I can only think of 3 bad points. There must be more. Now I really miss this place. Ivy, send a relative / friend of yours to start up Empire 2. The Empire Strikes Back!Yep, 50 house fee and on some holidays freebies. Huge rooms upstairs with each their own bathroom / shower. Only downfall was some mongers would smoke in the break / t. V room and smell up the joint.

Would mention to Ivy and Steve but heck they smoked too, haha.

Harry5142
02-25-18, 06:45
This place and places like it are the ultimate places to engage in the hobby.

https://www.the-paradise.de/

DrMajikLuv69
07-27-18, 16:29
The owner that directs the house. The owner directs the management and mana and girls regarding the level of services. At the top of the pyramid is the owner. The owner might have the opportunity to develop PR, and she will develop public relationship and establish PR with clients, this will establish rapport and more satisfying relationships.

BotoMoco
07-28-18, 19:45
The perfect mp is one that you don't get seen or caught in LOL.

JimmyK
07-29-18, 14:25
I agree with you!


The perfect mp is one that you don't get seen or caught in LOL..

Kaneohe33
07-29-18, 21:11
The perfect AMP has at least a dozen girls, 18-25, looks the fantasy, no street attitude, big menu, no upselling and works for your NEXT AMP dollars.

Memahu
07-29-18, 22:19
The owner that directs the house. The owner directs the management and mana and girls regarding the level of services. At the top of the pyramid is the owner. The owner might have the opportunity to develop PR, and she will develop public relationship and establish PR with clients, this will establish rapport and more satisfying relationships.Happiness managed to be top notch despite their location. It's located basically without customer parking and business neighbors where patrons can spock you going in there.

ItchyAchy
07-29-18, 23:09
Mine would be a fanstastically clean and discretely located place along w 9 and 10's throughout all permanently healthy and all handing ME the B. B. Only. Heh.

OP asked.

DrMajikLuv69
07-30-18, 08:23
Happiness managed to be top notch despite their location. It's located basically without customer parking and business neighbors where patrons can spock you going in there.I agree with you sir. All what you said Memahu is true. Happiness is top notch. People can watch you going there. But most mongers dont care if the neighbors stare. They just run up the flights. Memahu youre right. Parking is tight. Sometime theres chronics late night on bikes. You can hear the drunk Thai girls singing on the mic. But everything is still alright.

DrMajikLuv69
01-09-19, 04:17
Mine would be a fanstastically clean and discretely located place along w 9 and 10's throughout all permanently healthy and all handing ME the B. B. Only. Heh.

OP asked.Agree with you a fantastically clean and discretely located place is of paramount importance along wit 9's and 10's.

Just another side note: Rejuve’s back entrance is not too bad. Pinetree has a pretty good location not much foot traffic there. It’s ckean there too. Hanabi is hidden away from the street and pedestrians.

FCH300
01-09-19, 04:55
Agree with you a fantastically clean and discretely located place is of paramount importance along wit 9's and 10's.

Just another side note: Rejuves back entrance is not too bad. Pinetree has a pretty good location not much foot traffic there. Its ckean there too. Hanabi is hidden away from the street and pedestrians.Is Hanabi still in operation?? Haven't heard or seen anything from that outfit for almost a year now. Still going!!

DrMajikLuv69
01-12-19, 01:23
Is Hanabi still in operation?? Haven't heard or seen anything from that outfit for almost a year now. Still going!!I don't know if Hanabi is open. What ever happen to the girl with the big boobs? I used to see her ads. Tan asian girl with big boobs. She was on my List To Do but I never got around to. Is she around? I think her name was Hanabi also?