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Over the past two years or so, I've had mostly good experiences with SA. I found five great ones there. Some I met with just once or twice, some more like once a week for several months. There were also two not so great ones: a "princess" who thought I was going to be her ATM without her having to do anything at all, and an "explorer" who wasn't really serious about it, just wanted to test out her own attractiveness and see what offers she could get. But I think I've learned to avoid these types, for the most part. Still end up thinking with the wrong head every once in a while though.
SA is not necessarily better than various escort ad sites. It all depends on what you're looking for. If you prefer hh or 1-hr appointments and lots of variety, SA probably isn't something that will interest you. If you're more into regularly-scheduled (1-2 times a week) multi-hour dates with one girl, it can be a very useful resource. It also seems to me (and this is definitely YMMV), that I see a lot less "pharmaceutical" issues, boyfriend issues, or other types of drama. Maybe I've just been lucky, like I said. YMMV.
Member #5090
09-18-14, 14:05
Purely from this thread starting, I joined four different sites and did a little reading elsewhere. It seems to me, you better have some deep pockets for this game. While I do think there is going to be less drug issues, disease, etc. Drama could be the issue. I have yet to set a date with anyone. Of choose every site wants money to be able to contact the ladies which I can understand even though I hate paying for information. Then of course, you have no idea of the HE. I'll say I'm in between on whether to keep pursuing this.
Purely from this thread starting, I joined four different sites and did a little reading elsewhere. It seems to me, you better have some deep pockets for this game. While I do think there is going to be less drug issues, disease, etc. Drama could be the issue. I have yet to set a date with anyone. Of choose every site wants money to be able to contact the ladies which I can understand even though I hate paying for information. Then of course, you have no idea of the HE. I'll say I'm in between on whether to keep pursuing this.Deep pockets certainly help (same as with just about anything else). Mine could use a lot more depth, but even with relatively limited resources, these sites can work. I'm not spending any more now than I was when I was seeing Alexis the Retired 3-5 times a month. In fact, it's actually less. It's not nearly as bad as it may seem if you're just looking at their stated expectations. They'll list anything there -- 5 k, 10 k / month. Doesn't hurt to ask, I guess. But I'm pretty sure very few of them ever get that. Well, maybe in places like NYC, Chicago, Bay area they might. For most of them, what they ask for and what they will happily accept are two very different things. This is a very rough estimate, but I'd say most are good with getting 20-50% of their initially stated expectation.
The big downside of these types of sites for me is that they requires way more effort and patience in communication and initial date setup than scheduling with an escort. It's also necessary to figure out what she is and isn't comfortable with before meeting in person. Some are adamant about "not being an escort", so you might run into some 3-dates rules and other conditions like that. I usually pass and move on to the next one immediately if I get any indication of this sort of thing.
As far as drama goes, it's been surprisingly drama-free so far. I'm very careful in choosing who I meet though.
Deep pockets certainly help (same as with just about anything else). Mine could use a lot more depth, but even with relatively limited resources, these sites can work. I'm not spending any more now than I was when I was seeing Alexis the Retired 3-5 times a month. In fact, it's actually less. It's not nearly as bad as it may seem if you're just looking at their stated expectations. They'll list anything there -- 5 k, 10 k / month. Doesn't hurt to ask, I guess. But I'm pretty sure very few of them ever get that. Well, maybe in places like NYC, Chicago, Bay area they might. For most of them, what they ask for and what they will happily accept are two very different things. This is a very rough estimate, but I'd say most are good with getting 20-50% of their initially stated expectation.
The big downside of these types of sites for me is that they requires way more effort and patience in communication and initial date setup than scheduling with an escort. It's also necessary to figure out what she is and isn't comfortable with before meeting in person. Some are adamant about "not being an escort", so you might run into some 3-dates rules and other conditions like that. I usually pass and move on to the next one immediately if I get any indication of this sort of thing.
As far as drama goes, it's been surprisingly drama-free so far. I'm very careful in choosing who I meet though.Any advice on which od those sites has worked the best for you in this area? Thanks.
Gibson1970
09-19-14, 15:23
Any advice on which od those sites has worked the best for you in this area? Thanks.I live between Nashville and KNoxville so I check out both Cities. I have found Seeking Arrangement to be the best website (navigation wise) and with better variety of women.
Overall I have found being a SD is much more time consuming and lots more drama than Providers. I started seeing Providers 3 years ago. I would get in, get out and not think about them after I left. I saw a few Providers multiple times (Alexis 1987, Chloe Cummings and a few SBL ladies). After two years I thought I would try a SB and see if I liked it. I found a 22 year old college girl in my town and we started seeing each other. We agreed on roughly $1,000 month for 1-2 meetings a week with sex (this was about what I was spending on Providers so I was ok). Within two months she was pregnant with her ex BF and then the drama started. She had a rough pregnancy and couldn't work, she dropped out of school, had to make rent, had a car payment, yada, yada, yada. She was always needing additional money for things and when I didn't oblige, she always got upset and threw a tantrum. It is a ton of drama, but you also get more emotionally than you would from a Provider. Kind of like a girlfriend lite LOL.
I have done 4-5 Meet and Greets with ladies that didn't go any further than the first Meeting / Lunch.
I am now seeing a girl every other week I met off Seeking Arrangement. It's almost like a P4 P, but it is way cheaper. So far we have fucked twice and I paid her $60 and $80. She is great in bed, looks good and so far no drama. So far LOL.
Hope this helps.
I have found Seeking Arrangement to be the best website (navigation wise) and with better variety of women.SA seems to work well for me too. Lots of profiles, simple and easy to use interface. I tried a couple of other sites. Sugardaddyforme was ok, sugardaddyfinder was totally useless.
I live between Nashville and KNoxville so I check out both Cities. I have found Seeking Arrangement to be the best website (navigation wise) and with better variety of women.
Overall I have found being a SD is much more time consuming and lots more drama than Providers. I started seeing Providers 3 years ago. I would get in, get out and not think about them after I left. I saw a few Providers multiple times (Alexis 1987, Chloe Cummings and a few SBL ladies). After two years I thought I would try a SB and see if I liked it. I found a 22 year old college girl in my town and we started seeing each other. We agreed on roughly $1,000 month for 1-2 meetings a week with sex (this was about what I was spending on Providers so I was ok). Within two months she was pregnant with her ex BF and then the drama started. She had a rough pregnancy and couldn't work, she dropped out of school, had to make rent, had a car payment, yada, yada, yada. She was always needing additional money for things and when I didn't oblige, she always got upset and threw a tantrum. It is a ton of drama, but you also get more emotionally than you would from a Provider. Kind of like a girlfriend lite LOL.
I have done 4-5 Meet and Greets with ladies that didn't go any further than the first Meeting / Lunch.
I am now seeing a girl every other week I met off Seeking Arrangement. It's almost like a P4 P, but it is way cheaper. So far we have fucked twice and I paid her $60 and $80. She is great in bed, looks good and so far no drama. So far LOL.
Hope this helps.That does help. Thanks.
HollywoodGuy
09-20-14, 22:19
Hope y"all don't mind me butting in. I do SD4 M. Not sure if this thread is exclusively to talk about SA. Let me know.
Member #5090
09-22-14, 09:43
Here's another site to search. Although my experience so far is you'll see a lot of the same ladies again.
Whatsyourprice.com
Are these understood to be exclusive arrangements (on the part of the ladies) or might they have arrangements with more than one guy? Or does it matter as long as you are getting what you want?
Deep pockets certainly help (same as with just about anything else). Mine could use a lot more depth, but even with relatively limited resources, these sites can work. I'm not spending any more now than I was when I was seeing Alexis the Retired 3-5 times a month. In fact, it's actually less. It's not nearly as bad as it may seem if you're just looking at their stated expectations. They'll list anything there -- 5 k, 10 k / month. Doesn't hurt to ask, I guess. But I'm pretty sure very few of them ever get that. Well, maybe in places like NYC, Chicago, Bay area they might. For most of them, what they ask for and what they will happily accept are two very different things. This is a very rough estimate, but I'd say most are good with getting 20-50% of their initially stated expectation.
The big downside of these types of sites for me is that they requires way more effort and patience in communication and initial date setup than scheduling with an escort. It's also necessary to figure out what she is and isn't comfortable with before meeting in person. Some are adamant about "not being an escort", so you might run into some 3-dates rules and other conditions like that. I usually pass and move on to the next one immediately if I get any indication of this sort of thing.
As far as drama goes, it's been surprisingly drama-free so far. I'm very careful in choosing who I meet though.
Are these understood to be exclusive arrangements (on the part of the ladies) or might they have arrangements with more than one guy? Or does it matter as long as you are getting what you want?Might they have arrangements with more than one guy? Only if they're lucky!
It's all about the cash, guy.
Member #5090
09-23-14, 11:03
I hope not or else that website I posted earlier is going to get me in trouble. LOL Speaking of SD4 M, I just got kissed by a girl from the Ukraine. I think we have a shot.
Hope y"all don't mind me butting in. I do SD4 M. Not sure if this thread is exclusively to talk about SA. Let me know.
Are these understood to be exclusive arrangements (on the part of the ladies) or might they have arrangements with more than one guy? Or does it matter as long as you are getting what you want?I've never asked for exclusivity with any of them, it's not something that matters to me. I think it's one of those things that's easy for them to agree to if someone asks for it. But would they actually take it seriously? I wouldn't bet on it.
Gibson1970
09-25-14, 10:16
I've never asked for exclusivity with any of them, it's not something that matters to me. I think it's one of those things that's easy for them to agree to if someone asks for it. But would they actually take it seriously? I wouldn't bet on it.I require my SB's to be exclusive as I only have one SB at a time. Do I know for sure she isn't seeing someone else. No.
Just make sure you both are clear on what you expect from each other up front.
"How do you know which ones to contact?" I've gotten this question a few times, and while I don't claim to know the correct answer, my own answer is straightforward -- I don't. On SA and other SD / SB sites, I send messages to every girl I find attractive. I completely ignore their stated financial expectations, and mostly ignore whatever else they write on their profile (although if it says something like "take care of me, and I'll take care of you", that's usually a very good sign). You never know when the supposedly 10 k / month ones are actually just kidding about that, and it turns out they're perfectly fine with 100/ date. The one I'm seeing regularly now is a perfect example: asked for 2 k / month initially, took 200/ date, 4-5 times a month.
This reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask: what is reasonable to offer for this area? I started out a couple of years back, thinking I needed to be well above escort rates to get any interest from SBs. But recently, I tried 200/ date and 100/ date, for multi-hour dates. Got lots of interest even at 100 (which was very surprising). So I have no idea what a reasonable offer around here is. Any thoughts?
MilfMan865
09-27-14, 15:02
This reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask: what is reasonable to offer for this area? I started out a couple of years back, thinking I needed to be well above escort rates to get any interest from SBs. But recently, I tried 200/ date and 100/ date, for multi-hour dates. Got lots of interest even at 100 (which was very surprising). So I have no idea what a reasonable offer around here is. Any thoughts?This is Knoxville, TN, and not a place like Atlanta or Vegas. The half hour rates should simply be ignored. It's hard to imagine a provider in this area commanding more than 150/ hr for the first visit and then it will likely go to 100/ hr after repeat visits. It doesn't matter whether she is a young, spinner or a a mature, MILF. One of the benefits of the SB arrangement is that the provider should be able to count on a certain amount of assistance per month. If you agree on 1 K / month or whatever, spend multiple hours not engaged in intercourse, probably provide extra assistance by addressing her emergency monetary needs, provide her with gifts, take her traveling, buy her school books, etc. On top of that, you're more focused on the dates and cultivating the arrangement instead of having the clock watched. It really boils down to the rapport that you have with the provider and acknowledge that the terms of the arrangement are subject to adjustment based on your mutual needs. Most success can be found with girls new to providing services, UTRs, college girls, or ladies who are not the bpage type or seasoned providers. If you are looking for exclusivity (or the illusion of that), be prepared to pay much more for that privilege. If it equals out to 100-150/ visit, that should be right for the little sleepy town of Knoxville.
Happy Hunting,
MilfMan.
This is an area in which I have some expertise and long-term experience.
As some of you know, I prefer massage, and AMPs are the going thing here. However, I use AMPs and other massage providers as a relief valve between relationships. For the last 20 years, some of those relationships have been conventional, and some have been from SA.
SA is an odd world, made possible only by the Internet. Here are the categories I have found to be true, and my guestimates of the percentages of SA women making them up.
1. P2 P girls who do not think of themselves as providers 15%.
2. P2 P providers just looking for another venue 10%.
3. Girls / women with various states of dysfunction in their lives, bordering on homelessness and losing their kids to just not being able to manage the basics of day to day life. 45%.
4. Divorced / seperated women with reduced circumstances who are still functional, but want to meet a different type of man. 10%.
5. Married women. 5%.
6. Girls / women who have their act together, and use the site to meet successful men. 10%.
7. 10+ models / actresses who use their stunning combination of looks, brains, and drive to attract the uber-rich. Unknown.
There are exceptions. And there are certainly members who are in several categories at once.
I have recently re-entered the SA world, and it does take more effort, as I am after some type of connection, not just sex. It takes effort to get to the category you want (mine are in 4 and 6; I do not have funds for 7, and they are not looking to come to Knoxpatch anyway.).
I agree with the comment that you should ignore the stated goals (not many girls in Knoxville can command 10 K per month.) In this, as in all relationships, looking good, being respectful, and being honest go a long way.
I am in the midst of working something out with one woman after several months search. I have opinions on many of the recent active members if anyone wants to PM me.
Seeks.
Member #5090
09-29-14, 14:33
Thanks all! Appreciate the good info. I'm curious to know which SD / SB site you think is best. I'm borderline on SA and SD4 M.
I made a profile a few weeks ago. Just finally committed to it with my wallet. Met my first this morning, publically. According to her, I was first she met with from site also, who really knows. Nerves on both our parts. Ended a couple hour meet / greet with her stating " Basically I'm agreeing to an affair with you for money", I said yes, she said ok. Pretty much agreed to $. 5 per hour no matter what we're doing. Time will tell. I'll try to keep board updated. BTW, young 30's, curvy, not bbw by any stretch, smelled wonderful, pretty face, easy to talk with.
This is an area in which I have some expertise and long-term experience.
As some of you know, I prefer massage, and AMPs are the going thing here. However, I use AMPs and other massage providers as a relief valve between relationships. For the last 20 years, some of those relationships have been conventional, and some have been from SA.
SA is an odd world, made possible only by the Internet. Here are the categories I have found to be true, and my guestimates of the percentages of SA women making them up.
1. P2 P girls who do not think of themselves as providers 15%.
2. P2 P providers just looking for another venue 10%.
3. Girls / women with various states of dysfunction in their lives, bordering on homelessness and losing their kids to just not being able to manage the basics of day to day life. 45%.
4. Divorced / seperated women with reduced circumstances who are still functional, but want to meet a different type of man. 10%.
5. Married women. 5%.
6. Girls / women who have their act together, and use the site to meet successful men. 10%.
7. 10+ models / actresses who use their stunning combination of looks, brains, and drive to attract the uber-rich. Unknown.
There are exceptions. And there are certainly members who are in several categories at once.
I have recently re-entered the SA world, and it does take more effort, as I am after some type of connection, not just sex. It takes effort to get to the category you want (mine are in 4 and 6; I do not have funds for 7, and they are not looking to come to Knoxpatch anyway.).
I agree with the comment that you should ignore the stated goals (not many girls in Knoxville can command 10 K per month.) In this, as in all relationships, looking good, being respectful, and being honest go a long way.
I am in the midst of working something out with one woman after several months search. I have opinions on many of the recent active members if anyone wants to PM me.
Seeks.Sign me up for the 5% of married women who just want to have fun. Ladies, I am looking for entertainment this week. Send me a PM if you are interested.
Nick.
SA is a gold mine with lots of different types of arrangements available. Dates range from just dinner and respect (no $) up too $$$ for the date. There is no way I would do an hourly charge. Most of my dates are 2 hrs up to overnight.
I made a profile a few weeks ago. Just finally committed to it with my wallet. Met my first this morning, publically. According to her, I was first she met with from site also, who really knows. Nerves on both our parts. Ended a couple hour meet / greet with her stating " Basically I'm agreeing to an affair with you for money", I said yes, she said ok. Pretty much agreed to $. 5 per hour no matter what we're doing. Time will tell. I'll try to keep board updated. BTW, young 30's, curvy, not bbw by any stretch, smelled wonderful, pretty face, easy to talk with.
ThermoNuclear
10-02-14, 12:40
After a lot of effort, my results on SA for my first month have been less than stellar.
1) Youngish lady of color met for lunch and maybe more. I (yet again) made a big mistake, as her coy pics didn't reveal a largish figure, which my stupid monkey limbic system just does not respond to. She was nice and willing. Oh well.
2) MILF trying to get back on her feet. Met a couple times but ultimately I bailed due to hygiene concerns, recovering roommates, and imminent drama. She also was pressuring me to buy her a car. I think she belongs in that 45% 'desperate' category that SeeksEasy nicely documented in his post.
3) I almost met up with an expensive not-a-provider provider, but I was pretty sure it was going to be a let down compared to the actual providers around here, and the hassle of getting a room, and this. And that. And. Not worth the effort.
I'm still checking the board these last couple of weeks, but am not getting nearly as much response, possibly due to new competition from you bastards (just kidding, more power to you).
All-in-all it's been a lot of effort and very little pay off. If I was a bottom feeder (not that, you sicko), there seems to be lots of desperation to take advantage of, but that's not what I'm looking for. Of course YMMV.
There is no way I would do an hourly charge.I'd tend to agree, I can't think of any advantages that an hourly rate arrangement would have. But I suppose there might be some that I'm not thinking of. A weekly / monthly or even a per-date arrangement means long dates, no need for timekeeping / clockwatching, a more relaxed pace. Those are pretty much all the biggest reasons why I like them, so going hourly seems like a bad idea to me.
SA is a gold mine with lots of different types of arrangements available. Dates range from just dinner and respect (no $) up too $$$ for the date. There is no way I would do an hourly charge. Most of my dates are 2 hrs up to overnight.I was averaging. We have agreed to $5 monthly. With 10 - 15 hours of meetings. I'm sure it could progress to spending a night, but not right off. What would I tell my wife. I'm actually waiting to meet number two right now. Typical, I show up 10 minutes early and she's already 10 minutes late. More to be revealed. And yes it is time consuming.
BigBubbaBobby
10-02-14, 18:24
Chat about individual girls on SA here? Links to the site aren't visible unless you are a member and logged in. Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone has seen this girl: "Jetsetter" She looks pretty hot but wanted a steep per meet arrangement of $850! Said she got $5 k / month in her last arrangement which, I'm guessing, had to be in LA!
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea27a1e6/view
I was averaging. We have agreed to $5 monthly. With 10 - 15 hours of meetings. I'm sure it could progress to spending a night, but not right off. What would I tell my wife. I'm actually waiting to meet number two right now. Typical, I show up 10 minutes early and she's already 10 minutes late. More to be revealed. And yes it is time consuming.Do you mean $500 or $5,000 monthly?
HollywoodGuy
10-02-14, 19:27
This is an area in which I have some expertise and long-term experience.
As some of you know, I prefer massage, and AMPs are the going thing here. However, I use AMPs and other massage providers as a relief valve between relationships. For the last 20 years, some of those relationships have been conventional, and some have been from SA.
SA is an odd world, made possible only by the Internet. Here are the categories I have found to be true, and my guestimates of the percentages of SA women making them up.
1. P2P girls who do not think of themselves as providers 15%.
2. P2P providers just looking for another venue 10%.
3. Girls / women with various states of dysfunction in their lives, bordering on homelessness and losing their kids to just not being able to manage the basics of day to day life. 45%.
4. Divorced / seperated women with reduced circumstances who are still functional, but want to meet a different type of man. 10%.
5. Married women. 5%.
6. Girls / women who have their act together, and use the site to meet successful men. 10%.
7. 10+ models / actresses who use their stunning combination of looks, brains, and drive to attract the uber-rich. Unknown.
There are exceptions. And there are certainly members who are in several categories at once.
I have recently re-entered the SA world, and it does take more effort, as I am after some type of connection, not just sex. It takes effort to get to the category you want (mine are in 4 and 6; I do not have funds for 7, and they are not looking to come to Knoxpatch anyway.).
I agree with the comment that you should ignore the stated goals (not many girls in Knoxville can command 10 K per month.) In this, as in all relationships, looking good, being respectful, and being honest go a long way.
I am in the midst of working something out with one woman after several months search. I have opinions on many of the recent active members if anyone wants to PM me.
Seeks.Here is my estimate for los angeles.
1. P2 P girls who do not think of themselves as providers 20%.
2. P2 P providers just looking for another venue 30%.
3. Girls / women with various states of dysfunction in their lives, bordering on homelessness and losing their kids to just not being able to manage the basics of day to day life. 20%.
4. Divorced / seperated women with reduced circumstances who are still functional, but want to meet a different type of man. 10%.
5. Married women. 1%.
6. Girls / women who have their act together, and use the site to meet successful men. 10%.
7. 10+ models / actresses who use their stunning combination of looks, brains, and drive to attract the uber-rich. 9%.
The rates vary from $ (better have some game) $$ (no game required, girl quality up to a 9) $$$ to $$$$ (for real Hollywood 10's and GPS girls).
I mostly date 1's and 3's. I hit up the 2's occasionally in between. The 4's are too old for me. The 6's and 7's I cant afford. Never date a 5, no reason to.
Do you mean $500 or $5,000 monthly?2nd one last night went well. We're getting a room for this evening. She wants a fuck buddy. Agreed to $4 monthly. Also hundred. I have a lunch date with a 3rd one today. She's seeking 800 a month. Got build the herd so the culling can begin.
ThermoNuclear
10-03-14, 10:28
2nd one last night went well. We're getting a room for this evening. She wants a fuck buddy. Agreed to $4 monthly. Also hundred. I have a lunch date with a 3rd one today. She's seeking 800 a month. Got build the herd so the culling can begin.So you must be the lucky stiff to whom all the ladies are replying. My first contact protocol is clearly deficient.
Do tell your secrets, oh master of the art!
So you must be the lucky stiff to whom all the ladies are replying. My first contact protocol is clearly deficient.
Do tell your secrets, oh master of the art!My first message usually goes like this. My name is* I saw your pictures and profile and was intrigued. What are you looking for from a SD?
Then my response to their reply is below.
I'll be blunt, I'm looking for a female to spend time with, indoors and outdoors, who will respect my time, accept my gifts, and share herself with me. I'm not trying to be rude, just to the point. I have to assume that you are somewhat wanting the same, or you wouldn't be on this site. I'm at a point in my life that I have free time and resources that I want to share with someone. I'm not all business all the time, I'm actually easy to talk to and somewhat shy. Just emailing or texting gives me courage I don't normally have. So. Your turn.
So far it's working. Have a room for one tonight, taking another out of town Monday. Eating lunch with a 3rd in a few. It has caused a lot of texting and talking on the phone. My day flies by. Just like the days from college. Juggle, juggle, juggle.
LA percentages interesting.
I am trying to avoid 1, 2, and 3, and may increase by #3 percentage by a lot.
I budget about 2 k per month all in.
Here is my estimate for los angeles.
1. P2 P girls who do not think of themselves as providers 20%.
2. P2 P providers just looking for another venue 30%.
3. Girls / women with various states of dysfunction in their lives, bordering on homelessness and losing their kids to just not being able to manage the basics of day to day life. 20%.
4. Divorced / seperated women with reduced circumstances who are still functional, but want to meet a different type of man. 10%.
5. Married women. 1%.
6. Girls / women who have their act together, and use the site to meet successful men. 10%.
7. 10+ models / actresses who use their stunning combination of looks, brains, and drive to attract the uber-rich. 9%.
The rates vary from $ (better have some game) $$ (no game required, girl quality up to a 9) $$$ to $$$$ (for real Hollywood 10's and GPS girls).
I mostly date 1's and 3's. I hit up the 2's occasionally in between. The 4's are too old for me. The 6's and 7's I cant afford. Never date a 5, no reason to.
LA percentages interesting.
I am trying to avoid 1, 2, and 3, and may increase by #3 percentage by a lot.
I budget about 2 k per month all in.I budget around 1. 5 k a month and focus on #4 ("divorced") - they tend to be the most sane / drama free (in my experience at least, for what it's worth). Many 4's are in their 20's, and often very attractive. The p2 p ones can also be a lot of fun and mostly problem-free. At the slightest sign of them being in the "dysfunction" category, I run like hell. Not worth it. Google Voice is a big help here. Very easy to block numbers.
I'd like to add one more category:
8) bored college girl seeking summer income. No idea as far as percentage goes, but it's mostly seasonal. Look for them starting around mid-April and through late-July or so. They mostly just want to make some spending cash over the summer, and don't feel like getting some crappy minimum-wage retail job. But if in addition to income you can also offer access to any kind of summer entertainment (pool, lake / boat, beach, etc.) that will help a lot.
Chat about individual girls on SA here? Links to the site aren't visible unless you are a member and logged in. Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone has seen this girl: "Jetsetter" She looks pretty hot but wanted a steep per meet arrangement of $850! Said she got $5 k / month in her last arrangement which, I'm guessing, had to be in LA!
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea27a1e6/viewI didn't actually meet her, something about her profile / look / way of communicating just sets off red flags for me. But I can tell you that a couple of month ago, her per meet request was 500.
My first sexual event with someone from SA was a blast. No escort that I have been with, 49 on p411, quite a few local, was any better. So clean. She's 42. Excellent BBBJ. Loved receiving DATY. Then climbed aboard without a cover (kinda concerned about that) and sweated up the sheets. The pounding she gave and then took was what dreams are made of. Definitely worth the hassle of weeding through the high ballers and scammers. Meeting again in morning. If Monday works out like this, I will have committed to 1100 a month for around 16 - 18 pops a month. Pretty good deal I think. Hope I can handle it. Yee hah.
MilfMan865
10-04-14, 00:44
My first sexual event with someone from SA was a blast. No escort that I have been with, 49 on p411, quite a few local, was any better. So clean. She's 42. Excellent BBBJ. Loved receiving DATY. Then climbed aboard without a cover (kinda concerned about that) and sweated up the sheets. The pounding she gave and then took was what dreams are made of. Definitely worth the hassle of weeding through the high ballers and scammers. Meeting again in morning. If Monday works out like this, I will have committed to 1100 a month for around 16 - 18 pops a month. Pretty good deal I think. Hope I can handle it. Yee hah.That is a nice deal for under 70 roses per pop. I know numerous ladies on SA for various reasons. A few of them make about 4-5 agreements per month, just like the one you have entered into, to meet various financial needs and that adds up much faster than flipping burgers for sure. One of them gets a bloke handling the car payment and insurance, another handling cable / phone / internet and utilities, a dude for rent, and a baller on a budget to chip in for spending money (among other needs). It's a win-win for all parties involved.
Happy Hunting,
MilfMan.
HollywoodGuy
10-04-14, 01:10
My first message usually goes like this. My name is* I saw your pictures and profile and was intrigued. What are you looking for from a SD?
Then my response to their reply is below.
I'll be blunt, I'm looking for a female to spend time with, indoors and outdoors, who will respect my time, accept my gifts, and share herself with me. I'm not trying to be rude, just to the point. I have to assume that you are somewhat wanting the same, or you wouldn't be on this site. I'm at a point in my life that I have free time and resources that I want to share with someone. I'm not all business all the time, I'm actually easy to talk to and somewhat shy. Just emailing or texting gives me courage I don't normally have. So. Your turn.
So far it's working. Have a room for one tonight, taking another out of town Monday. Eating lunch with a 3rd in a few. It has caused a lot of texting and talking on the phone. My day flies by. Just like the days from college. Juggle, juggle, juggle.I have given this away before on another thread. I have 2 intro letters. The first one is a straight to the point sexy one tailored to my specific needs. Here is the more general one. Honestly I have more success with my sexy letter, but this one is good if you like to start up a convo and slowly get into their heads (and hopefully their pants).
Hi. Every girl on here is looking for 3 things to varying degrees.
1 - financial support.
2 - physical support.
3 - emotional support.
The greater the need for reason 1, the less attention is paid to reasons 2 and 3.
The greater the need for reason 2, the less attention is paid to reasons 1 and 3.
The greater the need for reason 3, the less attention is paid to reasons 1 and 2.
I try to provide a balance between all three reasons as a basis to meet someone. Enough money to say I am not trying to get something for nothing. Real Chemistry. I also have an understanding and giving nature combined with years of experience in taking care of girls and anticipating their needs.
I don't judge what anyone wants and I don't pretend to be able to meet everyones expectations. I use SD4 M as more of a regular dating site but to meet younger girls that want some help with their bills, have sexual needs and fantasies that can be spontaneously explored in a safe and nurturing environment, and with someone that could be a real friend even if its mostly for the financial and physical benefits. But a friend nonetheless.
Whats your motivation?
I have given this away before on another thread. I have 2 intro letters. The first one is a straight to the point sexy one tailored to my specific needs. Here is the more general one. Honestly I have more success with my sexy letter, but this one is good if you like to start up a convo and slowly get into their heads (and hopefully their pants).
Hi. Every girl on here is looking for 3 things to varying degrees.
1 - financial support.
2 - physical support.
3 - emotional support.
The greater the need for reason 1, the less attention is paid to reasons 2 and 3.
The greater the need for reason 2, the less attention is paid to reasons 1 and 3.
The greater the need for reason 3, the less attention is paid to reasons 1 and 2.
I try to provide a balance between all three reasons as a basis to meet someone. Enough money to say I am not trying to get something for nothing. Real Chemistry. I also have an understanding and giving nature combined with years of experience in taking care of girls and anticipating their needs.
I don't judge what anyone wants and I don't pretend to be able to meet everyones expectations. I use SD4 M as more of a regular dating site but to meet younger girls that want some help with their bills, have sexual needs and fantasies that can be spontaneously explored in a safe and nurturing environment, and with someone that could be a real friend even if its mostly for the financial and physical benefits. But a friend nonetheless.
Whats your motivation?I'm spending $4-5 K a month on escorts. Don't get me wrong, I like the variety. This is just more fun at the moment. Much more of a chase and conquest situation. Probably more risky. The money. The challenge. The excitement. Hell it's just fun.
BigBubbaBobby
10-04-14, 17:14
I didn't actually meet her, something about her profile / look / way of communicating just sets off red flags for me. But I can tell you that a couple of month ago, her per meet request was 500.Yes, agreed. With that kind of high dollar ask, you would expect her to be able to string a few sentences together that don't use text slang and such.
She quoted me 500 last week and quickly dropped to 300. I ended up not booking. Too many rules and she limited the time. No thanks.
Chat about individual girls on SA here? Links to the site aren't visible unless you are a member and logged in. Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone has seen this girl: "Jetsetter" She looks pretty hot but wanted a steep per meet arrangement of $850! Said she got $5 k / month in her last arrangement which, I'm guessing, had to be in LA!
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea27a1e6/view
The following morning with my first SB was a workout. This lady can fuck. My stomach cramped. My legs were quivering. For whatever reason I lasted longer than any other time for me (no wiskey, no dope). Unprotected is bothering me some. They're out there guys. Keep searching. I'll post the ones that were definitely no for me (to much $ for me) as soon as I can.
TomTom1219
10-05-14, 10:34
I just ended a relationship with a girl there. Started out really well and then the bat shit crazy kicked in. My stipend was less than a grand but OMG the sex was incredible.
Don't know that I will try again. Just Sayin.
I just ended a relationship with a girl there. Started out really well and then the bat shit crazy kicked in. My stipend was less than a grand but OMG the sex was incredible.
Don't know that I will try again. Just Sayin.So, was it she wanted a car, wedding ring (LOL), or was it 24/7 attention?
She quoted me 500 last week and quickly dropped to 300. I ended up not booking. Too many rules and she limited the time. No thanks.I've got her down from $550. Only rule so far and is no anal. Holding out for $300. We'll see.
She lives in Crossville- offer to meet her half way. Or / and tell her you want an ongoing thing. My deal was 300 first visit and 250 every visit there after. She limited me to 2 pops and no anal. GL. Did not partake. She seems a bit shady.
I've got her down from $550. Only rule so far and is no anal. Holding out for $300. We'll see.
HollywoodGuy
10-07-14, 16:03
I've got her down from $550. Only rule so far and is no anal. Holding out for $300. We'll see.DUDE. Any girl will take $$. If not, she is a pro. Keep looking. I only pay $ and have a line out the door.
Gibson1970
10-07-14, 17:47
She lives in Crossville- offer to meet her half way. Or / and tell her you want an ongoing thing. My deal was 300 first visit and 250 every visit there after. She limited me to 2 pops and no anal. GL. Did not partake. She seems a bit shady.Don't know what it is but I'm seeing a girl from SA that lives in Crossville (who knew it was a hotbed LOL). Sweet girl down on her luck. So far I've seen her 3 times and paid $60, $80 and $100.
So I'm just browsing the SA posts when I come across this one.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e3eb0c79/view
I know this girls in somewhat of a professional setting and while she's somewhat of a flirt I never got the impression I could take it any further. Her photos don't do her justice, but she's smoking hot. It looks like it's been a while since she logged in and even her post doesn't really seem as though she would be straight to the action kind of girl.
I know this is a shot in the dark question but any of the more seasoned SA pros ever taken a shot with this one?
Gibson1970
10-15-14, 09:29
Have you met her? Doesn't hurt to have a meet and greet. All it will cost you is Lunch.
So I'm just browsing the SA posts when I come across this one.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e3eb0c79/view
I know this girls in somewhat of a professional setting and while she's somewhat of a flirt I never got the impression I could take it any further. Her photos don't do her justice, but she's smoking hot. It looks like it's been a while since she logged in and even her post doesn't really seem as though she would be straight to the action kind of girl.
I know this is a shot in the dark question but any of the more seasoned SA pros ever taken a shot with this one?
ThermoNuclear
10-15-14, 10:55
Has anyone taken Mistress Vee up on her offer of 'Financial Domination'? If so, can you explain why?
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eacb1b9a/view
"This surrendering of power and control is the allure of the financial domination practice for you, the source of the high for me. . Classical Dom / sub dynamic expressed with refined methods. ".
Apparently 'Financial Domination' a fetish:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Financial%20Domination
"She said that some of her clients were aroused as much by giving money to a Dominant woman, as they were by any fetishes they may have been coming to see her for. And, that she was indeed aroused from their financial worship. ".
I am definitely in the wrong line of work. If anyone on this site would get a thrill from paying me money to NOT meet them, NOT talk with them, and NOT have anything to do with them, please PM me for bank routing info. I is a provider now gents! Har har. (Apologies to A2 if this statement requires this post to be moved to the 'Escort Classified Ads' thread).
Seems to me that marriage is a more enduring form of this relationship, albeit with the woman getting the thrill.
I invoke Rule 34 on Mistress Vee and applaud her ingenuity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_34_(Internet_meme).
Has anyone taken Mistress Vee up on her offer of 'Financial Domination'? If so, can you explain why?
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eacb1b9a/view
"This surrendering of power and control is the allure of the financial domination practice for you, the source of the high for me. . Classical Dom / sub dynamic expressed with refined methods. ".
Apparently 'Financial Domination' a fetish:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Financial%20Domination
"She said that some of her clients were aroused as much by giving money to a Dominant woman, as they were by any fetishes they may have been coming to see her for. And, that she was indeed aroused from their financial worship. ".
I am definitely in the wrong line of work. If anyone on this site would get a thrill from paying me money to NOT meet them, NOT talk with them, and NOT have anything to do with them, please PM me for bank routing info. I is a provider now gents! Har har. (Apologies to A2 if this statement requires this post to be moved to the 'Escort Classified Ads' thread).
Seems to me that marriage is a more enduring form of this relationship, albeit with the woman getting the thrill.
I invoke Rule 34 on Mistress Vee and applaud her ingenuity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_34_(Internet_meme).They have half the money and all the pussy. What do they have to complain about?? And no, I don't need your routing number. Great post though. I have found most success with ones who's profile says "negotiable" under amount expected.
Avoid these, sob stories, need cash to meet, request deposit via paypal, scammers.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e944d5e8/view
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e71d4eb4/view
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ece1d7a8/view
Has anyone taken Mistress Vee up on her offer of 'Financial Domination'? If so, can you explain why?
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eacb1b9a/view
"This surrendering of power and control is the allure of the financial domination practice for you, the source of the high for me. . Classical Dom / sub dynamic expressed with refined methods. ".Ha, yeah, I noticed that profile back in September because of the attractive picture. Got a good laugh out of reading it. Looks like she now added "Currently not seeking new connections, thank you", so the financial domination business must be going well.
I'm semi-retired from SA due to having found someone great there (and not having enough of an entertainment budget for multiple someones LOL). But I just noticed that an acquaintance from "real life" is using the site again. I never met her in the context of an arrangement, but I've known this was her source of extra income for some time. She's pretty open about it. Anyway, she is gorgeous, smart, cool, fun, has her own place (so probably could host if necessary). To the best of my knowledge, she's totally drug free and generally very stable and sane. I have no idea what her rates are, etc. , but I can tell you she is 100% real and all the info posted on her profile is accurate. Her pics do not do justice to how beautiful she actually is:
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1da24f8/view
Gibson1970
10-15-14, 16:19
I emailed "Mel" on SA.
We never did get to the money part, but she did seem eager to talk.
Avoid these, sob stories, need cash to meet, request deposit via paypal, scammers.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e944d5e8/view
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e71d4eb4/view
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ece1d7a8/view
LOL, I guess somebody was quick with a big offer -- profile is down already. They often come back after a while though, look out for username "ICraveAdventure", she is a good one.
I'm semi-retired from SA due to having found someone great there (and not having enough of an entertainment budget for multiple someones LOL). But I just noticed that an acquaintance from "real life" is using the site again. I never met her in the context of an arrangement, but I've known this was her source of extra income for some time. She's pretty open about it. Anyway, she is gorgeous, smart, cool, fun, has her own place (so probably could host if necessary). To the best of my knowledge, she's totally drug free and generally very stable and sane. I have no idea what her rates are, etc. , but I can tell you she is 100% real and all the info posted on her profile is accurate. Her pics do not do justice to how beautiful she actually is:
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1da24f8/view
I emailed "Mel" on SA.
We never did get to the money part, but she did seem eager to talk.She is very eager to talk via email but not on the phone. She gave me a financial number and wanted me to us PayPal to pay her and then we could play. After telling her I pay cash, she said she did not operate that way and we were done. I did not get a good feeling. YMMV. Stay safe --SC.
Gibson1970
10-23-14, 09:40
She is very eager to talk via email but not on the phone. She gave me a financial number and wanted me to us PayPal to pay her and then we could play. After telling her I pay cash, she said she did not operate that way and we were done. I did not get a good feeling. YMMV. Stay safe --SC.Looks like I dodged a bullet. I would never do PayPal or prepay before meeting.
ThermoNuclear
10-29-14, 10:39
So I got a message on SA from tantalizing nerdy gal from Nebraska asking to hook-up immediately ("shower and meet you now" wanted to only chat via email, kept asking for pics of me, and the pics she provided were TGTBT and lifted from a porn pic site. Either I missed the opportunity of a lifetime or dodged a bullet, but I am thinking the later.
I've heard of others on this site with similar experience of having girls ask for pics, with faces in them.
Sooo. Can anyone explain the angle? Is this an extortion racket? How does this play out?
So I got a message on SA from tantalizing nerdy gal from Nebraska asking to hook-up immediately ("shower and meet you now" wanted to only chat via email, kept asking for pics of me, and the pics she provided were TGTBT and lifted from a porn pic site. Either I missed the opportunity of a lifetime or dodged a bullet, but I am thinking the later.
I've heard of others on this site with similar experience of having girls ask for pics, with faces in them.
Sooo. Can anyone explain the angle? Is this an extortion racket? How does this play out?The Nebraska thing and the lifted porn star pics make this odd and likely some sort of a scam. But as far as SB's asking for face pics in general, that's pretty normal. They all ask that eventually. Well, maybe not all, but all the ones I've met so far asked that at some point. They just want to know who they're meeting. I haven't had any problems because of it. Even for someone who's married I don't see that as a big risk. If all she has is an email sent from some random address with a totally wholesome and G-rated pic of you, that's not exactly a great basis for extortion. Avoiding Anthony Weiner territory is always a good idea when it comes to pic sharing though.
As far as the (likely) scam, my guess is getting face pics for extortion wasn't the end goal. Most likely there would have been some sort of follow-up regarding how she really wants to meet you and would totally travel to you if she had the funds. Followed by a request for a paypal transfer or a credit card number. Or maybe an invitation to check her out on some for-pay cam site. Just guesses, but I think these are far more likely than an extortion scam.
Wow. You can sure tell that Christmas is around the corner. I'm getting 4-5 offers a day. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. This is beyond fun and easy. They're eager to meet and willing to do about anything. I've not been told no yet for anything I've wanted. Including greek and doubles. Having a blast.
Wow. You can sure tell that Christmas is around the corner. I'm getting 4-5 offers a day. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. This is beyond fun and easy. They're eager to meet and willing to do about anything. I've not been told no yet for anything I've wanted. Including greek and doubles. Having a blast.The only thing I can tell is some of them are raising their rates. I just laugh and say no thanks and keep searching. Happy hunting.
Anyone have any contact with Sarahtn? PM and thanks!
Why didn't I do this earlier? Unfuckingbelievable. I can't find enough hours.
Having my first real negative issue with someone from SA, goes by NSA_2014 (oak ridge). Had an arrangement for about 8 weeks. I'm trying to move on, she is demanding more funds, one last time, because she has not nor will she ever tell anyone about me. Then today, after zero response from me, "I'm not trying to be ugly, but I know someone who works with your wife". Be careful guys, as I continue to play the silent game and wait it out.
Gibson1970
12-09-14, 13:20
Having my first real negative issue with someone from SA, goes by NSA_2014 (oak ridge). Had an arrangement for about 8 weeks. I'm trying to move on, she is demanding more funds, one last time, because she has not nor will she ever tell anyone about me. Then today, after zero response from me, "I'm not trying to be ugly, but I know someone who works with your wife". Be careful guys, as I continue to play the silent game and wait it out.Sent you PM.
MilfMan865
12-13-14, 02:24
Having my first real negative issue with someone from SA, goes by NSA_2014 (oak ridge). Had an arrangement for about 8 weeks. I'm trying to move on, she is demanding more funds, one last time, because she has not nor will she ever tell anyone about me. Then today, after zero response from me, "I'm not trying to be ugly, but I know someone who works with your wife". Be careful guys, as I continue to play the silent game and wait it out.Thanks for the heads up. That's the kind of information that we need. I'm taking the slow and methodical process with the SA site, but I've had decent conversations with a few prospects so far. It's hard to pick out the sane ones from those that have wreaked havoc elsewhere and deciding to try their hand at SA now. It sounds like she has an ample supply of strings attached instead of NSA as she claims.
Stay safe,
MilfMan.
Has anyone seen Jessica? 356030356031.
Has anyone seen Jessica? 356030356031.Pictures are not accurate. Was once a pretty girl. Meth teeth. Showed up, she open door, smiled. I split. Sounded great on the phone too. Stay safe.
MilfMan865
12-16-14, 22:24
The guys' reports are not exaggerated. The site with the initials SA is the real deal. Reaped the benefits four days in a row. I'll likely throw a lure in this section as well, but I wanted to add my two pennies based on my experiences.
Embracing intense connections without commitment,
Milfman.
The guys' reports are not exaggerated. The site with the initials SA is the real deal. Reaped the benefits four days in a row. I'll likely throw a lure in this section as well, but I wanted to add my two pennies based on my experiences.
Embracing intense connections without commitment,
Milfman.There's not enough time in the day. I have found that I can ignore them for a month and contact them and their ready to jump back into the sack. One hiccup so far, called her bluff through silence, so far so good.
Is it worth the initial "membership fee" I've been burnt before by website scams and kinda hesitant. I signed up and got an assload of messages in just a couple days but I'm on the fence because you have to pay the fee to read them and message back. Plus you don't have any sort of review system so it seems like you would be constantly TOFTT and sooner or later. Your luck may run out. Just wondering. Thoughts?Don't know if the membership fee is "worth it" -- this probably varies a lot, depending on who you ask. But I can tell you it's definitely not a scam and they are very good at keeping fakes / scam profiles out of there. I've yet to run across even one that was just a straight up scam. There are some crazies on there that think they'll get 10 k / week for letting you talk to them occasionally, but at least they're real crazies LOL hmmm, maybe that's not a good thing.
And yeah, no reviews = you're taking a chance. A few rules that might help: Don't give them your primary phone number (I use google voice for SA stuff), don't use your real name, don't use pics where you're clearly identifiable. For pics, either blur them or use "visual approximation" pics. Most importantly: if she sounds crazy or like a dumbass who can't put a coherent sentence together, pass. Even if she's hot. Not worth it.
Don't know if the membership fee is "worth it" -- this probably varies a lot, depending on who you ask but I can tell you it's definitely not a scam and they are very good at keeping fakes / scam profiles out of there. I've yet to run across even one that was just a straight up scam. There are some crazies on there that think they'll get 10 k / week for letting you talk to them occasionally, but at least they're real crazies LOL hmmm, maybe that's not a good thing.
And yeah, no reviews = you're taking a chance. A few rules that might help: Don't give them your primary phone number (I use google voice for SA stuff), don't use your real name, don't use pics where you're clearly identifiable. For pics, either blur them or use "visual approximation" pics. Most importantly: if she sounds crazy or like a dumbass who can't put a coherent sentence together, pass. Even if she's hot. Not worth it.Fee was worth it. Right now I'm juggling six ladies from 21 - 44. Seeing 2 or 3 a week. Paying per visit $100 to $200. All think I'm really busy at work, so I can't see them more regularly. Met with one Wednesday night, had been 6 weeks, she got the room, she was so worked up it was incredible. Even took a trip to the islands, not been there with her before. Two pops. Two hours. $200. As of now, still haven't been called or text. Seperated mother of three. Meeting a 51 year old Christmas eve morning for first time. Pictures she has sent are smoking. If she looks half as good, I'll be happy. So for me, admission well worth it. Play hard. Be safe.
Fee was worth it. Right now I'm juggling six ladies from 21 - 44. Seeing 2 or 3 a week. Paying per visit $100 to $200. All think I'm really busy at work, so I can't see them more regularly. Met with one Wednesday night, had been 6 weeks, she got the room, she was so worked up it was incredible. Even took a trip to the islands, not been there with her before. Two pops. Two hours. $200. As of now, still haven't been called or text. Seperated mother of three. Meeting a 51 year old Christmas eve morning for first time. Pictures she has sent are smoking. If she looks half as good, I'll be happy. So for me, admission well worth it. Play hard. Be safe.Interesting post. I'm not interested in SA but I have some observations:
1. You are obviously cuter than I am, LOL.
2. Apparently there is a segment of the female population out there that is interested in selling pussy but doesn't want to be considered as an "escort".
3. It reminds me of the old now defunct Escorts pay site. That site always had a few amateurs on it, which I liked. One amateur from Murphy NC told me that she felt comfortable on the site because no one could see her ad who was not a "member".
Dr Holiday
12-20-14, 20:40
Interesting post. I'm not interested in SA but I have some observation
2. Apparently there is a segment of the female population out there that is interested in selling pussy but doesn't want to be considered as an "escort".
".Yes there is. There is also a large bunch of UTR types (most of them in my experience) I that are in denial that they are selling it. Got to go along with the fiction to do well with the local UTRs.
MilfMan865
12-21-14, 01:48
Is it worth the initial "membership fee" I've been burnt before by website scams and kinda hesitant. I signed up and got an assload of messages in just a couple days but I'm on the fence because you have to pay the fee to read them and message back. Plus you don't have any sort of review system so it seems like you would be constantly TOFTT and sooner or later. Your luck may run out. Just wondering. Thoughts?I'm not the type of guy that likes a bit of danger when getting a nut; I'm risk averse and prefer to live vicariously through you more adventurous types. As far as I know, this is a perpetual TOFFT exercise which still has me spooked. The divorced moms, age late twenties to mid-thirties, with two or more kids appear to be the most appreciative. When considering the time and donation, it ends up being between eighty and one hundred roses per hour. All acknowledge dabbling in the pay for play at their local watering hole, but only when their needs (or maybe wants) exceed their financial resources. They accept what the guy is willing to give and seem to have no idea of market rate. A Seymour lady just wanted enough for a bucket of KFC, gas, and some smokes while a Lenoir City lady needed enough to keep her motel room for a couple of days. Then there was one that wanted to get out the existing lay-away and head to electronics stores and outlet malls for shopping sprees (she said that is what it was like in the movies that she saw). I challenged her on what movie featured a lay-away pay off, but she balked. I'm still getting used to SA, but I'm managing about 5 local prospects with success (5 success stories for me in 5 days); I'm tempted with the Atlanta interests because they appear top shelf, but I'll need to resist that until I'm no longer a neophyte. I haven't encountered one of the 18-year old, college students, no kids, doggone near a 10, recently off Daddy's payroll, who is looking for a mentor to get her navigate the financial responsibilities thrust upon her. I have a meet and greet set up with that type for after the 2014 Christmas holiday, so I may have something to report back on that. The prospects are falling right into my lap. It's working for me right now, so I'll reap the benefits until the well runs dry (or worse) I suppose.
All the best.
Milfman.
I'm glad to others reporting similar results as I have found. I damn well knew it wasn't my looks. And I really don't think it's my skills as a monger. These ladies are ripe for the picking. Maybe the time of year, but for me it started three months ago. Been consistent from beginning. Be safe.
Here are some of the women and their demands:
Jen. Met up with her $100. No time limit, everything on menu.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e74689f4/view?search-recently-active
Hayden. Wants $3 K to $5 K as she is 'college student'.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e5ca95da/view?search-recently-active
Nashia. Wants $250-$300/ date.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e7fd428b/view?search-recently-active
Kglp. Claims to be a virgin and wants $1 K / month. Met her in person, she is cute. But not ready to put out yet.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e41dbb0b/view?search-recently-active
Shereen. Avoid. Would rate her 1 in looks in person.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e57b5dda/view?search-recently-active
Amanda. Randomly emailed me and gave her number. Never replied to her.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e289cf5a/view?search-recently-active
Jenny. Hot body and pretty. $150 for a session but she is a germophobe and does not kiss.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ede3b277/view?search-recently-active
Natalie. Another one who claims to be a virgin but open to greek. Makes no sense?
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e48cf51b/view?search-recently-active
Gibson1970
12-21-14, 18:17
Thanks alot for the Cliff Notes Knox. I live in Cookeville and am a member.
I had Jenny from Chattanooga on my favs, but if she is a germaphobe and doesn't kiss I'll pass.
I may have to message Jen in Clinton. $100 ain't bad.
Natalie looks cute. I agree anal but a virgin LOL.
I have sent a few messages out to the Knoxville ladies but haven't gotten any responses. I have gotten better results from the Nashville and Crossville ladies.
I would like to find someone to play with from time to time will make it worth your time.
Thanks alot for the Cliff Notes Knox. I live in Cookeville and am a member.
I had Jenny from Chattanooga on my favs, but if she is a germaphobe and doesn't kiss I'll pass.
I may have to message Jen in Clinton. $100 ain't bad.
Natalie looks cute. I agree anal but a virgin LOL.
I have sent a few messages out to the Knoxville ladies but haven't gotten any responses. I have gotten better results from the Nashville and Crossville ladies.My 21 year old son says yes. These girls want to have sex but also save themselves for marriage. Also no risk of pregnancy. He says very common. He's senior at ETSU. Things have changed a bit since I was that young. I will say that I have found a higher percentage willing to participate in Greek than in the escort world.
Natalie looks cute. I agree anal but a virgin LOL.
I remember talking to her a few months back. We were going to meet, but then I found her fb / instagram. The pics she has on SA are technically her, but they're about as flattering as could be. It's pretty amazing what some of these girls can do with lighting and camera angles. I'd say she's about a 3-4 on looks in her more "unaltered" pics. Face less cute, and about 30-40 lbs heavier than the SA ones would have you believe. Might not be a deal breaker for some, I know preferences vary. But I like fit / slender / athletic body types, and she's definitely more on the curvy side (to put it nicely).
Two things.
(1) SA is almost overwhelming. Drinking out of a firehose. Very inefficient market, as the sellers do not have an understanding of general market prices.
(2). CAll and run to see Amanda. The reason she emailed you out of the blue with her number is to get some Christmas cash for her young kid. She is as pretty-no, prettier- than her pictures.
Here are some of the women and their demands:
Amanda. Randomly emailed me and gave her number. Never replied to her.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e289cf5a/view?search-recently-active
GaltGuy. Clear your in box out some. Might have to clear out sent ones also. I tend to clear in box when I have replied to them and sent messages when I receive a reply.
Been on SA for about a month now and its frustrating as hell. Here's a rundown:
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e170615a/view?search-recently-active
Set up a meeting then she no-showed. No further communication.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e39289aa/view?search-recently-active
Set up two meetings-she cancelled both. Gave up after that.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e9520529/view?search-recently-active
Messaged her and she said she now lives in Johnson City. Told her I go to JC at least once a month. Told me she wasn't interested.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ed9c5dca/view?search-recently-active
Had a lot of fun messaging with each other then she just dropped off the radar.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea27a1e6/view?search-recently-active
This one is hot as balls but is a straight up hooker. Profile says she is in Nashville but she is in Knoxville Says she want a SD with an allowance then says she can come over in an hour. Wants $$hr no kissing everything covered, miss only, one pop.
Not sure what the problem is. I'm a good looking guy, I'm not talking like a douchebag or sending dick picks. Any advice from you guys that are successful with SA?
Thanks.
Sim.
MilfMan865
12-22-14, 14:30
My burner phone started getting too warm when used, so I had to get a new one. Just so you guys know, you can get an LG400 old school flip phone for 5 bucks at national chain pharmacy that rhymes with Ball Green's. I needed to get the phone activated with a sixty minute phone card for another 20 bucks, but the company doubled the minutes free of charge. In essence for 25 bucks + tax, I was back in business with a new phone and ready for the next round of SA engagements.
Stay Safe,
Milfman.
Kane. Super flaky. Haven't met her in person. Only communication through texts.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e59a6a1b/view?search-recently-active
Melissa. Plan to meet her this week. Genuine and real person, not demanding.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e0a09118/view?search-recently-active
Holli. Passed up her offer of $250/ date.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e32dd3bb/view?search-recently-active
Jessie. Super high demands. Asking $350-$400/ date of couple of hours.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ed6eae0a/view?search-recently-active
Amber. Yet to meet her in person. Have been communicating, seems reasonable.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e8e3652a/view?search-recently-active
Jade. Looks older than advertised. Reasonable price. Gave her $125. Everything covered. Nice lady.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ec05975a/view?search-recently-active
Audrey. Is atleast 15-20 lbs heavier now. Everything covered. LFK only.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e59c1ed4/view?search-recently-active
Kristen. Total GFE. Very pretty gal. EXTREMELY HARD TO REACH.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e2bf808b/view?search-recently-active
Been on SA for about a month now and its frustrating as hell. Here's a rundown:
Not sure what the problem is. I'm a good looking guy, I'm not talking like a douchebag or sending dick picks. Any advice from you guys that are successful with SA?
Thanks.
Sim.It's just luck and timing man. It has nothing to do with looks and money. Good luck in your search.
How do you handle the ones that don't seem to know what they want? When asked about financial support expectations, most will give you a number. But some respond with something like "just a gift every once in a while" or "I just want a little help with some shopping expenses" or "I've never done this before, I have no idea" -- stuff like that. So my question is: is it better to try to agree on exact amount ahead of meeting, or just go with it and assume they'll be happy with whatever?
It's just luck and timing man. It has nothing to do with looks and money. Good luck in your search.Thanks KnoxTN-I'll keep throwing my line out and see if I get any bites. Will report back if I catch something worthwhile.
Sim.
HollywoodGuy
12-22-14, 15:10
How do you handle the ones that don't seem to know what they want? When asked about financial support expectations, most will give you a number. But some respond with something like "just a gift every once in a while" or "I just want a little help with some shopping expenses" or "I've never done this before, I have no idea" -- stuff like that. So my question is: is it better to try to agree on exact amount ahead of meeting, or just go with it and assume they'll be happy with whatever?Always agree on the amount upfront. Then just get to the fun.
MilfMan865
12-22-14, 15:18
Not sure what the problem is. I'm a good looking guy, I'm not talking like a douchebag or sending dick picks. Any advice from you guys that are successful with SA?
Thanks.
Sim.There is no set formula that works for everyone. Keep in mind that ratio of women to potential Sugar Daddies is roughly 10 to 1. You have to be able to filter the educated courtesans from those sincere females in need that claim "I've never done this before". With such a high ration of women to men, there is no need for you to reach out to any of them. Let them fall into your lap. When you click on their profile, they get a message indicating that you viewed them; soon after, you will get a ping or two. Here's what has worked for me after adapting it a bit and it has boiled down to a three step process:
1) When a Sugar Baby wannabee contacts me, I get the pleasantries out of the way (e. g. , Hello, how are you doing, nice profile, etc.). I let her know that the sheer amount of email that I'm getting is overwhelming. Overwhelming to the point that I have entrusted the help of a close female friend to help filter out some of it. I let her know that her message is one that got through without a problem, so that has to count for something.
2) I let her know that I'm entertaining quite a few opportunities, but she seems like one of the best prospects so far. I also review her profile and provide a favorable comment about one of her characteristics. For example, "Your profile notes that you are feisty and speak your mind. I can appreciate that in a woman and encourage you to never let your voice be silenced by detractors. I have a good feeling about this discussion, so contact me again if you are interested in getting to know each other a little better. ". You can adapt the message based on her perceived background and education level. For example, "Hey baby girl. I bet that you don't take sh1 t off nobody! LOL. A smart shawty like you is where it's at. Don't listen to the haters, because hater's will do what they were born to do. And that's hate on you for trying to get yours. Hit me back if you want to conversate for a few. ".
3) Inform her that if she replies to your message, it will be sent back into the message queue to be evaluated again so a delay should be expected. At this point, you usually get the digits to use at your convenience because she wants to circumvent the long line to which you alluded. Contact her when you feel like it and seal the deal.
Just to note -.
I met up with one this morning for 2 hours and have an engagement set up for tonight with a different Sugar Baby wannabee after her kids go to sleep. Two on your list that seem problematic are set to meet with me after the holidays.
Stay Safe,
Milfman.
I've opened an SA account, but waiting to see how the holidays go with current sweetie, before pulling the trigger. For those that have been successful and are 2-3 decades older than the SBs they have landed, what public interactions have you had with them. Dining, shopping, just coffee. ?? Interested in the local mores of Knoxville and the mores and expectations of the SBs. Thanks.
ThePunter7216
12-22-14, 16:08
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Not sure what the problem is. I'm a good looking guy, I'm not talking like a douchebag or sending dick picks. Any advice from you guys that are successful with SA?
I agree that luck and timing are a big part of it. Although, looks and money can improve your lu`
I find that what works best for me is approaching it almost like regular dating. These girls love to text so I will have a long conversation w / them by text. Once I get the sense that we are comfortable with one another I will ask about a M&G. I find that it's important to have the M&G as soon as possible so they don't lose interest or find another option. If I couldn't have a M&G within the week I would let them know that up front and try to perhaps slow play it a bit to keep them interested. But one really cute 20 yr old that I hooked, I went from "hi" to a M&G in about three hours and then to the FC right after. Speed is an asset. But basically I treat it much like regular dating* because the truly sweet ones are going to appreciate that. I just go out and charm them and at the end assume there is attraction and a desire to move forward. If there isn't it's usually quite obvious and we can part ways.
Along those same lines I NEVER am the first one to bring up sugar. And when they bring it up I try not to be the first one to name a number. Again, YMMV but it seems to work for me.
*-With some exceptions of course, like the fact that I am not going to listen to any whining or dramatic behavior, and that I know we're going to f# each other silly for hours on end every single time we see each other. And that she's like 20 years to young to be dating me in real life.
MilfMan865
12-23-14, 06:57
Pictures are not accurate. Was once a pretty girl. Meth teeth. Showed up, she open door, smiled. I split. Sounded great on the phone too. Stay safe.True, the pics are not accurate as in not current. The pics had to have been taken during a time when she was in better health. She operates out of a hotel in the Lenoir City area. I was spooked by heavy foot traffic, so I had her meet me at a restaurant. She got into my car, smiled, and it looked like she had a mouth full of gravel. When I jumped back, she said something about having some condition that causes her teeth to become brittle and break off. Like Jem4111 mentioned, that seems indicative of meth use based of what web them dee has to say. She must have been referring to one of you mongers when she said that people would show up and leave. She's not looking for a SugarDaddy, she's looking for someone to cover the 55 bucks a night that it costs for her room. I dreamed that her room was not cluttered but was full of smoke (a solid haze even), she makes her own cigarettes with some contraption, she chain smokes, her body has some scarring (some major surgery had to have happened because her coccyx was cut up severely), she has flab in some odd places which makes one think that she lost weight really fast (more like a skinny phat girl), her teeth are probably the worst that you will ever see latching on to a set of gums (it reminded me of the toy Hillbilly teeth), BUT her BJ skills would be considered decent for a car date.
Stay Safe,
Milfman.
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I'm still on the fence and haven't actually pulled the trigger to join SA. I've actually been pretty busy with one of my UTRs and Jenny heart over the last week or so. Anyway I get an email that I've been favorite so I decided to check it out.
For anyone that wants a good laugh check this out! https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e44f926b/view/?utm_source=sa&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=favorited.Unless your flying them in to you or planning an out of the country trip, I wouldn't waste the time to message back. I get favorite from someone nearly everyday. Like seven countries and over twenty different states so far. If I can't drive there in a reasonable amount of time or their not in a place I frequent or pass by when traveling for work, I just ignore. I've noticed most from far distances are seeking funds for sexting and pictures. Hell I can get my wife to do that and I'm just as likely to get some from it as I am from someone in Ireland. LOL.
Gibson1970
12-23-14, 10:15
Been on SA for about a month now and its frustrating as hell. Here's a rundown:
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e170615a/view?search-recently-active
Set up a meeting then she no-showed. No further communication.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e39289aa/view?search-recently-active
Set up two meetings-she cancelled both. Gave up after that.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e9520529/view?search-recently-active
Messaged her and she said she now lives in Johnson City. Told her I go to JC at least once a month. Told me she wasn't interested.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ed9c5dca/view?search-recently-active
Had a lot of fun messaging with each other then she just dropped off the radar.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea27a1e6/view?search-recently-active
This one is hot as balls but is a straight up hooker. Profile says she is in Nashville but she is in Knoxville Says she want a SD with an allowance then says she can come over in an hour. Wants $$hr no kissing everything covered, miss only, one pop.
Not sure what the problem is. I'm a good looking guy, I'm not talking like a douchebag or sending dick picks. Any advice from you guys that are successful with SA?
Thanks.
Sim.Sim.
I have messaged most of those ladies you did. I did not send anything to Jetsetter because I knew she is a hooker. I haven't gotten any replies yet. The Nashville ladies work best for me.
Gibson1970
12-23-14, 10:18
Kane. Super flaky. Haven't met her in person. Only communication through texts.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e59a6a1b/view?search-recently-active
Melissa. Plan to meet her this week. Genuine and real person, not demanding.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e0a09118/view?search-recently-active
Holli. Passed up her offer of $250/ date.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e32dd3bb/view?search-recently-active
Jessie. Super high demands. Asking $350-$400/ date of couple of hours.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ed6eae0a/view?search-recently-active
Amber. Yet to meet her in person. Have been communicating, seems reasonable.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e8e3652a/view?search-recently-active
Jade. Looks older than advertised. Reasonable price. Gave her $125. Everything covered. Nice lady.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ec05975a/view?search-recently-active
Audrey. Is atleast 15-20 lbs heavier now. Everything covered. LFK only.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e59c1ed4/view?search-recently-active
Kristen. Total GFE. Very pretty gal. EXTREMELY HARD TO REACH.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e2bf808b/view?search-recently-activeKnox. I emailed Kane but haven't heard from her. I texted Holli, but she is in Knoxville now (her profile says 10 miles).
Gibson1970
12-23-14, 10:25
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e0722f3a/view?conversation-inbox
Been talking with this girl from Oak Ridge. She wanted $350. I countered with $175. Seems kinda flighty.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e0722f3a/view?conversation-inbox
Been talking with this girl from Oak Ridge. She wanted $350. I countered with $175. Seems kinda flighty.This one started messaging me today. Traded pictures so far. Waiting on the price. Spent day in Nashville with Dawn. Very nice. I cut / paste short cuts with phone.
I like SA, and it seems like I get messages in waves. I'm going to pay the fee to get verified to see if it makes a difference.
Jen: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e74689f4/view?search-recently-active.
Messaged with her yesterday. She claimed to me that she's never met anyone from SA before because there are too many "creepy men with money" on the site. She told me that she has a boyfriend who is aware. She told me that she is not on birth control. She said that she does not do Island Travel, and that everything else must be covered. Never quoted a donation.
Buffy: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e9520529/view?search-recently-active.
She claimed to be in Johnson City. She messaged back and forth with me regularly until I offered to travel to her in Johnson City. She responded with "That's nice of you" and never scheduled anything.
Serenity The Siren: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e95865cb/view?search-recently-active.
She has an amazing body based on private pics. She respond quickly, but isn't very talkative. She stressed that she has a boyfriend and will not consider "anything other than platonic time" but she still wants to be paid. I stopped responding.
Natalie: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e48cf51b/view?search-recently-active.
Also claimed to me that she is a virgin. Although, I can confirm that a lot of girls her age are into Island Travel to preserve their "virginity. " She was very honest with me about her appearance in real life vs. Her photos. Her exact words were "My photos might not accurately show my thicker body. " She sent me several long messages about how much she needs privacy, and she also stressed how extremely expensive she is. I thanked her for her time and decided not to meet her.
Kglp: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e41dbb0b/view?search-recently-active.
She told me that she's been in arrangements before and prefers a long-term one. We had a meeting set up, but I got a migraine and had to postpone.
Pupa: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eda9f4eb/view?search-recently-active.
I usually respond to a lady's message and then wait and see what happens. She was nice, but too aggressive about meeting. She sent me several messages "Hi. Here's my number. " She got a little pushy or desperate. I stopped responding.
Sweet Chianti: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e5317d8a/view?search-recently-active.
Seemed nice on SA messages. After swapping texts with her, I decided not to meet. Just didn't have a good feeling about it.
Shannon5493.
I responded to her message during a break at work. I went back to work. She wrote me back and I didn't respond because I was at work. Within 15 minutes, I got another message "I guess you didn't like me. " Drama. Never responded.
This one started messaging me today. Traded pictures so far. Waiting on the price. Spent day in Nashville with Dawn. Very nice. I cut / paste short cuts with phone.Tried to say I can't cut paste easily with phone. Going to try on computer when back in office.
I had a different experience with SA when I tested it about 6 months or so back. I set up an account as usual, using a burner email address for the purpose. They offer you 5 free messages to try it before sending them money. But you have to upload a photo to activate that. Because of my job, I can't have photos on sites like that floating around the net, so I uploaded a representative photo instead, which they approved. I sent a few of those free messages and as some of you mentioned, sure enough I got tons of replies and unsolicited messages. I answered 2 or 3 only, and with at least one of them, since it seemed that the lady was serious, I told her that my photo was only representative and that I would be happy to send her a true photo privately before meeting. Within a day or two I received message from SA that my account was being deleted for using a fake photo. It was obvious that the "lady" was a fake as well and was just a bot of SA's being used to get us to send them money. My guess is that many of those messages members received are fakes sent by SA as promos, and that many of the TGTBT ladies on the site are just as fake for the same reason. I think its a big con job.
Confused-Cutie: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e8f3e67b/view?conversation-inbox.
I had high hopes for her, and was more than willing to make the long drive to her, but when we talked details, I found out that she's not on birth control. I decided to pass.
Skrapsbor1
12-27-14, 16:27
Confused-Cutie: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e8f3e67b/view?conversation-inbox.
I had high hopes for her, and was more than willing to make the long drive to her, but when we talked details, I found out that she's not on birth control. I decided to pass.So the deal breaker is she is not on Birth control? What if she claimed she was on birth control? You would have BB sex and hope she stayed on birth control and everything would be good. And I assume you thought you would be the only one seeing this girl so she would be clean as the driven snow? Wake up before you are in a nasty paternity battle and paying for some coed and her BF to live with your kid or you have a private itch that bleach won't fix.
Confused-Cutie: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e8f3e67b/view?conversation-inbox.
I had high hopes for her, and was more than willing to make the long drive to her, but when we talked details, I found out that she's not on birth control. I decided to pass.What difference does that even make? Surely you wear a raincoat. I'd be way more concerned with catching something than birth control. You have no idea who she is or who she has been with. Just saying. Rethink your thinking.
MilfMan865
12-28-14, 12:10
SA Warning, beware of Angel Eyes Ann: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eb6b690c/view?search-recently-active.
This female lists average body type in her ad, but she is 5'6 and just shy of 250 lbs (not that there's anything wrong with that for some, but it's misrepresentation based on her ad). She'll want to meet you around exit 407 on eye forty, she had three car seats in the back, and I'm not saying that those car seats were empty. Her boyfriend was not pleased with her making a profile, so there's some additional drama related to that considering they share a phone and he called the meet-and-greet number back. Perfect case for that burner phone and I'm fortunate that I can just request a new phone number.
Be safe,
Milfman.
Sstarting beware of Angel Eyes Ann: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eb6b690c/view?search-recently-active.
This female lists average body type in her ad, but she is 5'6 and just shy of 250 lbs (not that there's anything wrong with that for some, but it's misrepresentation based on her ad). She'll want to meet you around exit 407 on eye forty, she had three car seats in the back, and I'm not saying that those car seats were empty. Her boyfriend was not pleased with her making a profile, so there's some additional drama related to that considering they share a phone and he called the meet-and-greet number back. Perfect case for that burner phone and I'm fortunate that I can just request a new phone number.
Be safe,
Milfman.For the heads up. She just started messaging me today. Save some trouble.
Anyone try this one out yet? I made a profile today but haven't really studied on the site yet. It operates off credits of some sort.
https://www.whatsyourprice.com/how_it_worksI signed up on this one about a month ago and have only looked at it a few times. Profile is free to set up; you and the girl send "winks" to each other to signal interest. Then one makes an offer (basically just "send offer," with an amount attached). It costs a certain number of credits to send the offer. I figured what the hell, throw $40 at the site and see what happens. Lots of winks so far but have had very little beyond that. Haven't pulled the trigger on any yet, but have had some preliminary email communication.
I've actually noticed quite a bit of overlap with the SA. Same girls on both.
Whenever a profile pic on SA (or any other site for that matter) has a pic with the POTS kid, run away. Just my 2 cents.
Quote Originally Posted by MilfMan865 [View Original Post]
Sstarting beware of Angel Eyes Ann: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...ecently-active.
My first bad SA experience - "Andieee" or whatever she calls herself now:
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e94e157b/view
No real harm done, just a total fake / flake / waste of time. Her tendency to create a new profile every few weeks should have been a hint (got to be a reason why the old ones kept getting deleted by SA). But, pics were too good for 'ole brain to be working properly. Luckily nothing worse than an emarrassing waste of my time resulted. Two "no call, no shows" in escort terminology, I guess. Yeah, yeah, I know there shouldn't have been a second one after the first one.
On the bright side, for whatever reason, Asheville seems to be a gold mine of SBs lately! And it's a pretty short drive, so most of them seem to be willing to come to Knoxville.
KarmaKitty
12-29-14, 14:31
I've been seeing Kirsten once a week for a month. We were doing great. $150 plus room but she flaked out today and ran away with $ and nothing in return. I'm out room and $150. She has a bf that travels with her. She goes from here to SC, to Florida. She is hard to get ahold of because of her traveling scam or whatever it is. But she was great in the beginning. I have pics to verify I've seen her in the most intimate of ways, but friends of the board. . you've been warned. . your hard earned money is at risk with this one! Links are provided to profiles. https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e328ad1c/view?search-created-new. .
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e2bf808b/view?search-recently-active
I've been seeing Kirsten once a week for a month. We were doing great. $150 plus room but she flaked out today and ran away with $ and nothing in return. I'm out room and $150. She has a bf that travels with her. She goes from here to SC, to Florida. She is hard to get ahold of because of her traveling scam or whatever it is. But she was great in the beginning. I have pics to verify I've seen her in the most intimate of ways, but friends of the board. . you've been warned. . your hard earned money is at risk with this one! Links are provided to profiles. https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e328ad1c/view?search-created-new. .
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e2bf808b/view?search-recently-activeThanks for the warning. I was talking with her just now, thinking of setting something up. Saved me a lot of trouble from the sound of it. And just my 0. 02, but I think if she rips you off, you get to post / share her pics wherever you feel like.
Gibson1970
12-29-14, 18:10
Sorry to hear Koolkat but at least you got to bang her a couple of times. I sent her an email but she never replied. Guess she wasn't nearby enough to scam me.
And yes. This thread is useless if you don't post some nude photos of her LOL.
I've been seeing Kirsten once a week for a month. We were doing great. $150 plus room but she flaked out today and ran away with $ and nothing in return. I'm out room and $150. She has a bf that travels with her. She goes from here to SC, to Florida. She is hard to get ahold of because of her traveling scam or whatever it is. But she was great in the beginning. I have pics to verify I've seen her in the most intimate of ways, but friends of the board. . you've been warned. . your hard earned money is at risk with this one! Links are provided to profiles. https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e328ad1c/view?search-created-new. .
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e2bf808b/view?search-recently-active
Gibson1970
12-29-14, 18:12
I sent an email to Andieee but never heard back from her. The Knoxville chicks seldom return my emails (I live in Cookeville). I have chatted with Holli and Arielle. Arielle will flake on you too.
I get more responses from Nashville.
My first bad SA experience - "Andieee" or whatever she calls herself now:
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e94e157b/view
No real harm done, just a total fake / flake / waste of time. Her tendency to create a new profile every few weeks should have been a hint (got to be a reason why the old ones kept getting deleted by SA). But, pics were too good for 'ole brain to be working properly. Luckily nothing worse than an emarrassing waste of my time resulted. Two "no call, no shows" in escort terminology, I guess. Yeah, yeah, I know there shouldn't have been a second one after the first one.
On the bright side, for whatever reason, Asheville seems to be a gold mine of SBs lately! And it's a pretty short drive, so most of them seem to be willing to come to Knoxville.
FeatherHammer
12-29-14, 21:19
So, I get a text from Amanda Sweetheart last night, warning to be wary of Angel Eyes Anna, not to reply or fall for any calls, texts, etcetera, from this girl. I texted her back that I was recently warned of this, I didn't tell her that it was through this site. I have not seen Amanda, but was considering making a trip to out of ktown to do so. Hell, this could be Angel Eyes herself for all I know. I don't have time or money to waste on these damn scams. Does anybody have any experience with Amanda?
Dreamer469
12-30-14, 10:47
So, I get a text from Amanda Sweetheart last night, warning to be wary of Angel Eyes Anna, not to reply or fall for any calls, texts, etcetera, from this girl. I texted her back that I was recently warned of this, I didn't tell her that it was through this site. I have not seen Amanda, but was considering making a trip to out of ktown to do so. Hell, this could be Angel Eyes herself for all I know. I don't have time or money to waste on these damn scams. Does anybody have any experience with Amanda?Nice girl but telling the truth when I say "gave me the worst BJ of my life"!
I wound't make that drive for a free one!
I've had a lot of BJ's!
D469.
Has anyone had any luck with Kristina from Chattanooga?
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e691ff25/view?search-recently-active
I was hesitant on posting pics but the board made a good point. She is the one that cash and dashed. Not me. I've even given this one $ and asked for nothing in return. I've given her $50 here and there to make it back to Knoxville when she was in SC. I will not post pics for revenge because I'm better than that. However, out of the concern for the welfare of my fellow mongers, I am posting some pics. I will say, you will be tempted to pass on my advice because of her beauty, but you've been warned. She has a bf that travels with her and will look to set you up.Thanks for the warning. She is beautiful, but I will not set up anything with her now. She and I were talking earlier, but now that I know what she's capable of, no thanks. Dealing with boyfriend issues and ripoffs isn't worth it. Plenty of other options out there.
Rocket Dork
12-30-14, 15:20
I was hesitant on posting pics but the board made a good point. She is the one that cash and dashed. Not me. I've even given this one $ and asked for nothing in return. I've given her $50 here and there to make it back to Knoxville when she was in SC. I will not post pics for revenge because I'm better than that. However, out of the concern for the welfare of my fellow mongers, I am posting some pics. I will say, you will be tempted to pass on my advice because of her beauty, but you've been warned. She has a bf that travels with her and will look to set you up.She is the one that takes your money and runs. She has a boyfriend. And you STILL give her money. You are being taken by a con artist. Give your money to someone who deserves it not to a loser and her boyfriend. Rocket Dork.
KarmaKitty
12-30-14, 16:16
She is the one that takes your money and runs. She has a boyfriend. And you STILL give her money. You are being taken by a con artist. Give your money to someone who deserves it not to a loser and her boyfriend. Rocket Dork.I admit hindsight is 20/20. The story was she needed help because she broke up with her bf. I had to help her back from SC because she had to get her shit from her bf and needed a way back. I saw her 4 times. The first 3 times were great. Awesome. You can see she's beautiful. Seemed okay. But demands grew. I gave her the benefit of the doubt. I believed her stories. I did until she had me get a room and ran out with $150. I texted her and said where did you go? She said her bf left with the $. So much for the breakup. Long story short. . no matter where you look, always be on top of your game.
KarmaKitty
12-30-14, 16:55
Under Seeking Arrangements in Knoxville. In post 123 I posted 2 pics. My conscious says I should remove the naked one. Could I request this photo be removed. I admit: she did me wrong but the naked one doesn't need to be posted to shame her. I'm sorry for the inconvenience but I acted out of spite. That's not to say others still shouldn't be warned and the clothed full body pic does that.
Thank you Admin.
HossCartwright
12-30-14, 17:16
Just like P4 P, you have to harden yourself a bit. Its very easy to "feel" for these girls, much easier than the hookers we all see. Rule of thumb, never give more than your comfortable with. From the sounds of it, you didn't. Live and learn right? On to the next one. It'll take a while to ease the pain of the transgressions, but it will.
I'd still keep her on the hook though. Reason? Play nice, she'll come back. Get your use and then kick her to the curb. I had a little Philly get only $60 from me at one point. Kept her in the background, met up a long while later. Pulled my own version of fuck 'and duck. Then "blocked" her number!. LOL.
Bottom line, regardless of being a professional hooker or a student of the game. Just like a true GF, if they see an opening, they'll often take it.
My two cents, no need for change.
I admit hindsight is 20/20. The story was she needed help because she broke up with her bf. I had to help her back from SC because she had to get her shit from her bf and needed a way back. I saw her 4 times. The first 3 times were great. Awesome. You can see she's beautiful. Seemed okay. But demands grew. I gave her the benefit of the doubt. I believed her stories. I did until she had me get a room and ran out with $150. I texted her and said where did you go? She said her bf left with the $. So much for the breakup. Long story short. . no matter where you look, always be on top of your game.
HossCartwright
12-30-14, 17:38
Another member posted a link to this thread, honestly I didn't think many openly, on a public forum, talked about the subject. There is a need for discretion, much more so than the hookers we've all seen. Most girls on the SD / SB sites are easily traceable to their real lives. Don't be an ass and post information connecting the dots.
Glossary of Terms:
CL = CraigsList.
FWNSL = First Wife No Sex Life.
SA = SeekingArrangement.com.
SB = Sugar Baby.
SD = Sugar Daddy.
SD4 M = SugarDaddyForMe.com.
WYP = WhatsYourPrice.com.
SDT = sugardaddytoday.com.
How to Recruit a Sugar Baby? Some guys have luck advertising themselves on M4 W in CL. For real civilian co-eds and 20-somethings, try:
http://www.seekingarrangement.com/
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/
http://www.whatsyourprice.com/
http://www.sugardaddytoday.com/
Spend a few weeks checking out these sites and getting a feel for them and the type of girls you will be meeting. On Seeking Arrangement make sure you get yourself "verified" for a $49 one-time fee. They have a third party company that checks you out for: Criminal records, Registered Sex Offenders, Sex Crimes, Violent Crimes, Domestic Violence, Felonious and Misdemeanor Assaults. The girls feel safer and you will get way more responses and more productive initial meetings that way.
How to Spot and Avoid a Hooker Posing as a Sugar Baby:
To eliminate hookers look for code words: GFE, BBBJ, outcall, etc. $250 1st hour $400.00 for 2 hours, $700.00 if it includes a dinner date etc. Are all signs of hookers. Avoid glam shots, pictures taken in motels, etc. Use google image search, tineye etc. To eliminate hookers. Google phone numbers and email addresses. Google is your friend.
How to tell if she's a Civilian?
Civilian girls don't count hours. They are hoping for a fixed monthly amount for an arrangement. Always pay them by the meeting the first month. After that some pay them every two weeks or monthly. Others continue paying per meeting, but try not to miss a week. The legit ones will give you their phone # right away in email before you meet them so you can text the day you're meeting. A phone number trace can get the name and other info the phone number is in. US search is pretty reliable: http://www.ussearch.com/consumer/ind...searchtab=home.
Real civilian sugar babies DO NOT use pre-paid phones in fake names with fake addresses. If their name is on their cell phone, you can get advance Intel off Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn etc. Before you even meet them. Always ask a college SB to show you her student I'd after she tells you what school she goes to. If it's an older girl, it's easy to verify employment. If the girl is legit, she will tell you her real name and even show you her I'd if you are a verified member.
The Initial Meeting:
First meetings typically take place at a Starbucks. To talk privately, either find a private table outside, take your prospective sugar baby for a walk, or just sit in your car. The first goal of the initial meeting is to determine if there is "chemistry". If so, an "arrangement" (frequency of meetings, and her compensation, called a "gift") can be worked out. If she seems promising, then invite her to have lunch or dinner to continue establishing "chemistry". Don't try to rush a new SB into a hotel room for a "test drive"! Never make her feel like a prostitute.
How to find a Stable Sugar Baby:
Look for SBs who have a decent relationship with their parents or relatives. One reason is because they won't want their parents to know. Therefore, they will be discreet. Another reason is if they had a decent childhood, they are less likely to have emotional problems. If you select the right SB, she will want her privacy as much as you.
Bareback Sex with Your Sugar Baby.
If you want condom-free sex (and even if you don't) ask them if they are willing to be tested. This shows you they are responsible and disease-free.
Conclusion.
Its hard work to get started, but the rewards are well worth it. The sex will be off the hook compared to the (usually) mechanical hooker sex with too many rules.
I admit hindsight is 20/20. The story was she needed help because she broke up with her bf. I had to help her back from SC because she had to get her shit from her bf and needed a way back. I saw her 4 times. The first 3 times were great. Awesome. You can see she's beautiful. Seemed okay. But demands grew. I gave her the benefit of the doubt. I believed her stories. I did until she had me get a room and ran out with $150. I texted her and said where did you go? She said her bf left with the $. So much for the breakup. Long story short. . no matter where you look, always be on top of your game.I agree that she is very hard to get hold of. I saw her only once. She wanted to keep the room but didn't have an I'd. I refused to put the room on my name. So, she had a 'guy' friend of hers put the room on his name. Not sure if he was her bf but he was at the hotel within minutes of her calling him. Nevertheless, she had an odd schedule and texts me out of the blue asking if I can meet. I was to meet her yesterday but she never contacted me and I didn't bother to text her. I now know why she didn't text me.
Under Seeking Arrangements in Knoxville. In post 123 I posted 2 pics. My conscious says I should remove the naked one. Could I request this photo be removed. I admit: she did me wrong but the naked one doesn't need to be posted to shame her. I'm sorry for the inconvenience but I acted out of spite. That's not to say others still shouldn't be warned and the clothed full body pic does that.
Thank you Admin.You handled this all wrong. If I or anyone else wanted to be an ass we could copy that pic and do whatever we want with it. Click report post or PM the Admin next time this happens. Me personally I wouldn't give 2 shits about posting her pictures if she stole from me.
FeatherHammer
12-31-14, 21:24
Nice girl but telling the truth when I say "gave me the worst BJ of my life"!
I wound't make that drive for a free one!
I've had a lot of BJ's!
D469.I certainly don't need anymore anxiety in my life. I need relief, not bullsh.
An old man once told me that 'there is no such thing as a bad BJ'. Sounds like he was wrong. Thanks D469 sir for your advice. You saved me a good bit of stress.
MilfMan865
01-02-15, 17:28
Conclusion.
Its hard work to get started, but the rewards are well worth it. The sex will be off the hook compared to the (usually) mechanical hooker sex with too many rules.Excellent information on all points. SA is a true gold mine that is worth of navigating. I speak from experience that the rewards are worth the pre-work required to get started. Once the ball gets rolling on the meet-and-greets and such, the possibilities are endless. The consolidated list of tips are spot on and could save some of us a lot of headache (and maybe heartache if you're into that).
Stay safe,
Milfman.
Some idiot facebook stalked Jen. She took her account down now and asked that I no longer text her as she doesn't want to get into trouble. This is insane. The whole purpose of the site is for having fun in a DISCREET way. The operative word being discretion. Facebook stalking totally nullifies it, doesn't it?
Jen - https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e74689f4/view?search-recently-active (No longer active account).
Kirsten. Contacted me asking me to wire her $60 for gas so that she can drive down from SC. I told her that I am not falling for games and will help her only after I see her in person.
So, I get a text from Amanda Sweetheart last night, warning to be wary of Angel Eyes Anna, not to reply or fall for any calls, texts, etcetera, from this girl. I texted her back that I was recently warned of this, I didn't tell her that it was through this site. I have not seen Amanda, but was considering making a trip to out of ktown to do so. Hell, this could be Angel Eyes herself for all I know. I don't have time or money to waste on these damn scams. Does anybody have any experience with Amanda?She and I met once a few months ago. It cost a lot because she couldn't host and I had to get a room in addition to helping her out. For my money, time, and trouble I got the most boring encounter in history. Then she kept texting me asking me to visit again, saying she needed this or that, etc. Eventually had to block her number. She's cute and her pics are accurate. YMMV about the actual experience. But I doubt it.
MilfMan865
01-05-15, 22:27
Beware of Allyson on SA. She is an escort posing as a potential Sugar Baby:
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea52929a/view?conversation-inbox
Conversation was going well then she started mentioning all of the items with which she needed help along with quoting by the hour. A bit of research revealed that she has spent time in the Gray Bar Inn.
Of course there are other legit escorts on there, some we know from this forum, who have posted on SA against the rules (their forum, their rules), but this one wasn't apparent like some of the others. If you want to see an escort, just book the appointment; no reason to get duped on SA to do it. Legit SA civilian girls don't count hours.
Trusted and Seniors can PM me for URLs and other pertinent information.
Stay Safe,
Milfman.
BigBubbaBobby
01-06-15, 00:04
Beware of Allyson on SA. She is an escort posing as a potential Sugar Baby:
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea52929a/view?conversation-inbox
Conversation was going well then she started mentioning all of the items with which she needed help along with quoting by the hour. A bit of research revealed that she has spent time in the Gray Bar Inn.
Of course there are other legit escorts on there, some we know from this forum, who have posted on SA against the rules (their forum, their rules), but this one wasn't apparent like some of the others. If you want to see an escort, just book the appointment; no reason to get duped on SA to do it. Legit SA civilian girls don't count hours.
Trusted and Seniors can PM me for URLs and other pertinent information.
Stay Safe,
Milfman.Oh yeah, stay far far away from her. She texted me some crazy story (before we had even met) about how she needed cash right now or would be homeless. A horrible sounding story. Way way too much drama for me to get involved in with some supposed SB I hadn't even met yet!
LoveTheMerch
01-06-15, 20:22
I may never hire another girl off BP again! Thank you guys for turning me onto this site. Once I get a few good to goes under my belt, I will PM the seniors and trusteds my findings. If I come across a bad one, I will post that publicly in the forum.
MilfMan865
01-07-15, 08:45
I may never hire another girl off BP again! Thank you guys for turning me onto this site. Once I get a few good to goes under my belt, I will PM the seniors and trusteds my findings. If I come across a bad one, I will post that publicly in the forum.It's bright, blindingly bright. Yes sir, that's what all of us are here for: guidance. I'm interested in your findings, especially to see the extent of overlap with the ones that I've run across.
Stay Safe,
Milfman.
LoveTheMerch
01-07-15, 22:52
I am going out on a limb here, but if you look at the definition of prostitution and then examine the definition of the term business as used in the definition of prostitution in Tennessee, you have the fact that a sugar daddy allowance is not patronizing prostitution. This is a win win win for everyone involved. I will give you my info once I see how many pan out. My schedule is shite right now, so the meet ups are not going fast enough.
LTM.
It's bright, blindingly bright. Yes sir, that's what all of us are here for: guidance. I'm interested in your findings, especially to see the extent of overlap with the ones that I've run across.
Stay Safe,
Milfman.
A bunch of new female SA members showed up after the first of the year. I met one yesterday. She has a very professional job, working with and around high-end health care professionals. We met for coffee. In the lobby of a hotel. Within 30 minutes SHE went to the desk and (with my money, of course) got a room where we spent the next 2. 5 hours. When I tried to gauge her monetary intentions, she wouldn't entertain the discussion. "I'm sure whatever you do will be great. " Apparently it was, because I awoke this morning to an incredibly pleasant email from her. Properly conjugated nouns and verbs. No text abbreviations. She is 35 years old, which is young enough for me to feel like a pervert or Larry King, yet old enough that she knows who she is, what she wants--and what she doesn't want.
Another observation: a quarter of the CNAs in this town must be looking to augment their income. Un-fucking-believable. I've met with a 23-year-old absolute sweetheart who I have considered putting on my monthly cash payroll. We discussed the possibility of me just paying her rent each month. It would eliminate my cost for a hotel and provide me with an "all-you-can-eat" option who often has off-days during the week--my only available playtime.
My observation: girls in their 20s are almost all open to threesomes with another girl. A surprising percentage are open to Greek. They all swallow, even if they have to lick it off of a body part. It must be part of that generation's culture.
At first, I kept waiting for Alan Funt to show up. (Doc knows who that is. You young pups won't.).
MilfMan865
01-08-15, 08:56
At first, I kept waiting for Alan Funt to show up. (Doc knows who that is. You young pups won't.).Never heard of Alun Funt, I Googled the bloke, now I am Alun Funt aware. I used to restrict my searches to those who are listed as 25 and under, but recently found that the women in their 40's who have been disenchanted with he notion of everlasting relationships to be appreciative as well. I'm usually not into non-spinner women who were not born in the early 1990's, but the SUCKcess in the older group has been eye opening. Ladies who are not too old to where she could be your mama, but not too young to where she couldn't be your real date. Keep that coy grin stretching across your face man.
With a belly full of canaries-,
Milfman.
Dr Holiday
01-08-15, 13:52
A.
At first, I kept waiting for Alan Funt to show up. (Doc knows who that is. You young pups won't.).Getting old sux.
Got me thinking with your CNA comment. I just realized that three I "exploit" (that words for you knoxvol, LOL) regularly are CNA's. Never thought about it till you brought it up.
Are you guys using your regular CC or pre-paid card to pay the monthly dues?
SouthernJohn
01-08-15, 19:05
Are you guys using your regular CC or pre-paid card to pay the monthly dues?Stay anonymous. Use a pre-paid. I did.
MilfMan865
01-09-15, 10:12
Are you guys using your regular CC or pre-paid card to pay the monthly dues?Pre-paid. I didn't view a regular credit card as a responsible option.
Stay safe,
Milfman.
SA member: "Joy4 Us".
URL: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ead2553c/view?search-recently-active&.
Report: She's legit (self-described Classy and Sassy). The stats on her profile are accurate. Personable, easy going, inviting environment, and aims to please. I have visions of chrome being removed from a tailpipe for some reason. Classic example of a fine woman taking the necessary steps to get her groove back.
Seniors and trusted may contact me for further information.
Stay safe,
Milfman.I would Appreciate knowing more about this lady.
LoveTheMerch
01-09-15, 19:33
Confused-Cutie: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e8f3e67b/view?conversation-inbox.
I had high hopes for her, and was more than willing to make the long drive to her, but when we talked details, I found out that she's not on birth control. I decided to pass.I contacted her and she was mad because I disrespected her by not calling her a prostitute. Whatever? Strange girl. Her private pictures are very nice however!
I would Appreciate knowing more about this lady.I have had the pleasure of dreaming with this provider twice. She also advertises on CL. Definitely enjoys what she does. Incall on the north side, a little skiddish at first getting things set up. If you are a breast man, she has plenty to offer. Her BBBJ skills are excellent before during and after the dream! She reminds me of the energizer bunny. For more intimate details feel free to PM me.
Thebossmro
01-10-15, 14:27
SA member: "Joy4 Us".
URL: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ead2553c/view?search-recently-active&.
Report: She's legit (self-described Classy and Sassy). The stats on her profile are accurate. Personable, easy going, inviting environment, and aims to please. I have visions of chrome being removed from a tailpipe for some reason. Classic example of a fine woman taking the necessary steps to get her groove back.
Seniors and trusted may contact me for further information.
Stay safe,
Milfman.So I had talked to this lady the night before very sweet and kind had a nice conversation. We had talked some about meeting and agreed to talk more today. Well after out convo I get on here saw the review by milfman sent him a pm for some info. It was great info and he said to use his man to ease the way with her which I did. So i text her today complete turn around from the great lady I had talked to the night before. She sends a texts her exact words. " I heard about you guys on the board" so I ask what she heard. She goes on a rant about how we low ball and she is not a 40 dollar a hour date. To me I am going to have to pass was very sweet and kind at first but for some reason today got attitude for no reason. I hope the rest of you have better luck.
Thebossmro
01-10-15, 15:19
So I finally went ahead joined sa 2 weeks ago and here is what I have come across so far.
Lovbug.
She seems legit I have not meet her yet but seems to be open to most anything and very reasonable. Not sure if I will meet her yet says she has a bbw friend on the site she will do doubles with.
www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1dd632c/view?search-recently-active
Pupa kitkat.
I meet her was very nice with me not pushy at all sweet and kind. Thick big ass and thighs very pretty girl set me back 1. 2 stayed 5 or so hours. I will see her again.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eda9f4eb/view?search-recently-active
Jane.
Seems very nice young and inexperienced asking for 1. 5 for a few hours or 2. 5 for a over night stay. I have her on my last for this week says she has a open menu will report back on this one after we meet.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e260634c/view?search-recently-active
Mama jay.
Says on site a lady talked to her she is a transgender male to female yeah ummmmmm noooooooo not for me.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eb5e1d2b/view?search-recently-active
Kglp.
Says she is a virgin but open to oral and anal which she says she had never done wants 1. 00 just to meet and hang out 2. 5 if you want more she looks cute and is thick but I will pass.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e41dbb0b/view?search-recently-active
Skyla.
Seemed nice cute girl said she she just wants to meet and get to it I say that mean no foreplay or oral she says well we could every now and then.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e476a10c/view?search-recently-active
Thats just to start will post more later when I have time.
Thebossmro
01-10-15, 17:02
My first post about my finds on sa and it is all ready biting me in the ass. I get a text from kat blasting me because someone went and told her what I posted. With me what is said on the board is never told unless someone says its ok to use there name or such.
MilfMan865
01-10-15, 18:43
Come on guys, please familiarize yourselves, you know who you are because you probably think it's funny, with the 1st and 2nd Rules of FIGHT CLUB. I had an SA woman rip me a new one for saying "A Seymour lady just wanted enough for a bucket of KFC, gas, and some smokes". I didn't even mention her by name, but she knew that I was talking about her. That is true: she was hungry, her tank was almost on E, and her cigarette supply was anemic. It was a win-win for both of us, so I don't know why her panties are in a wad now. For your convenience, here are the rules of FIGHT CLUB. You can replace FIGHT CLUB with anything pertinent, for example - USASG Knoxville Board, for which discretion is paramount.
1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB.
2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB.
3rd RULE: If someone says "stop" or goes limp, taps out the fight is over.
4th RULE: Only two guys to a fight.
5th RULE: One fight at a time.
6th RULE: No shirts, no shoes.
7th RULE: Fights will go on as long as they have to.
8th RULE: If this is your first night at FIGHT CLUB, you HAVE to fight.
With a belly full of canaries,
milfman
Some of them are pros, but most are not. They don't think of themselves as escorts, they don't want to advertise here, and most will freak out if they find out about the board. Doesn't have to be anyone telling, google works just fine, don't assume they don't know how to use it. Obviously telling them about the board is a bad idea, but don't assume they won't find it even if nobody tells them. Only warnings need to have usernames / identifying info. Publicly posting escort-style reviews with rates, their sa usernames, other details -- that's a quick way to fuck up the value of that site. Knoxville isn't that big a town, and they talk among themselves.
My first post about my finds on sa and it is all ready biting me in the ass. I get a text from kat blasting me because someone went and told her what I posted. With me what is said on the board is never told unless someone says its ok to use there name or such.Isn't it possible that she (or some girlfriend) just read your post on the board, or do you know who's breaking the rules of fight club? Anyhow I hate that, and hope it doesn't discourage you (or others) from posting equally good stuff on the SA thread.
Of course the flip side is: we need to know about things {just like that}. A provider that does it will soon find herself to be out-of-bounds with the most active mongers around. I like her look (and her ink), but she's now off my future "to-do-list" for bitchin' on a brother. She's only screwing herself. . .
LoveTheMerch
01-11-15, 02:19
I hate to say it, but I was set up to meet this one and she started to ask for more money after we made the plans for the first meeting. Worse, she tried to make me feel like I was being cheap by telling me about how many other offers she was getting for "so much more" than what I was willing to give. I wished her the best of luck, and pulled away. Just left a bad taste in my mouth how she went about doing it. More than anything I don't think she knows what she wants and is very uncomfortable doing this SA thing. Someone has to ease her into it, just not me. Seniors, you can ask more details via PM.
LTM.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e376e58b/view?conversation-inbox
MilfMan865
01-12-15, 20:22
I've checked with few SA ladies who no longer have active profiles on SA. I had exchanged texts or emails with them before, so I had to reach out to them that way. I was wondering if they had found out an arrangement which necessitated the removal, but that's not the case. It turns out that quite a few guys (not saying that they are Board members, but could be) are allegedly using their post-doc in douchebaggery to harass, degrade, or otherwise creep out the ladies. Facebook stalking is running rampant, low-balling is the norm, the ladies fear being outed as a result of being on the site, and no one is talking real arrangements. This is totally unscientific and based on talking to less than ten ladies. I'm just relaying what I found.
Stay safe,
Milfman.
I've checked with few SA ladies who no longer have active profiles on SA. I had exchanged texts or emails with them before, so I had to reach out to them that way. I was wondering if they had found out an arrangement which necessitated the removal, but that's not the case. It turns out that quite a few guys (not saying that they are Board members, but could be) are allegedly using their post-doc in douchebaggery to harass, degrade, or otherwise creep out the ladies. Facebook stalking is running rampant, low-balling is the norm, the ladies fear being outed as a result of being on the site, and no one is talking real arrangements. This is totally unscientific and based on talking to less than ten ladies. I'm just relaying what I found.
Stay safe,
Milfman.Same exact thing happened with Jen as I mentioned here, a few posts below. Not sure why guys are facebook stalking women on a site where discretion is premium.
LoveTheMerch
01-12-15, 20:50
I've checked with few SA ladies who no longer have active profiles on SA. I had exchanged texts or emails with them before, so I had to reach out to them that way. I was wondering if they had found out an arrangement which necessitated the removal, but that's not the case. It turns out that quite a few guys (not saying that they are Board members, but could be) are allegedly using their post-doc in douchebaggery to harass, degrade, or otherwise creep out the ladies. Facebook stalking is running rampant, low-balling is the norm, the ladies fear being outed as a result of being on the site, and no one is talking real arrangements. This is totally unscientific and based on talking to less than ten ladies. I'm just relaying what I found.
Stay safe,
Milfman.Although I never tell the girls I know their facebook accounts nor do I try to friend them, many of them give information that is easily used to track them. No, I will not give where that information can be found, so don't ask. Perhaps we should educate them without outing our own private discussion here on how to stay safe and how to keep their identities under wraps before they actually have the relationship established. Tips they should know:
-Get a texting app or Google Voice.
-Never give out any "real" information other than their first name (even that may be too much).
-Never give out any real information till after the first M&G (even then may be too soon).
-Don't try to get an arrangement when desperate for money--makes people break the rules.
-Never give out their primary email even if it is a gmail or yahoo account. Have one specifically used for SA.
-Pay attention to the creepy meter which may only go off after the first time you meet. There are no expectations for this type of relationship till after a first meeting and both people decide it will work. It may be good practice to expressly disclose this fact for the SB before the first meeting so there are no surprises. This isn't like hiring an escort when sex is expected and chemistry is only faked. There needs to be a connection between the parties.
-SB need not expect that the guy will like her as much in person as he did on her profile. Although I always give a least a little to compensate, I think the SB needs to know that not all the guys are going to like them once they meet.
That's my take at least.
LTM.
LoveTheMerch
01-12-15, 20:58
Same exact thing happened with Jen as I mentioned here, a few posts below. Not sure why guys are facebook stalking women on a site where discretion is premium.No amount of education can cure stupid. If a guy is creepy, he is going to creep. If a guy is a stalker, he is going to stalk. That is why girls have to be careful. Some guys want power and control and stalking is how they do it. Stalking is their way of exerting some power and keeping some control. It is not about the men trying to play by the rules of the game, it is the men who want power or control. If it wasn't they would be able to let go and find the other girl who does want him.
Just my thoughts.
HollywoodGuy
01-13-15, 00:14
I've checked with few SA ladies who no longer have active profiles on SA. I had exchanged texts or emails with them before, so I had to reach out to them that way. I was wondering if they had found out an arrangement which necessitated the removal, but that's not the case. It turns out that quite a few guys (not saying that they are Board members, but could be) are allegedly using their post-doc in douchebaggery to harass, degrade, or otherwise creep out the ladies. Facebook stalking is running rampant, low-balling is the norm, the ladies fear being outed as a result of being on the site, and no one is talking real arrangements. This is totally unscientific and based on talking to less than ten ladies. I'm just relaying what I found.
Stay safe,
Milfman.80% of all girls drop their profiles for the above mentioned reasons. Usually within the first few days. I,m a low baller but have some success anyway. its more the crude types that put them off.
Same exact thing happened with Jen as I mentioned here, a few posts below. Not sure why guys are facebook stalking women on a site where discretion is premium.I can totally understand searching for someone on facebook. Given the gray nature of "arrangements" it's hardly surprising that SDs would like to know to what extent a prospective SB is who she says she is, and I fully expect that SBs are also researching prospective SDs for similar reasons. What I can't understand is letting someone know (explicitly or implicitly) that you're stalking her on facebook. It's always been awkward to (appear to) know more a lot more about someone than that person knows about you.
A lot of the guys seem to be treating "real" SBs as UTRs. This will bring lots of problems to the arrangement. The problem (opportunity) for SD's is weeding out the profiles on SA's between SBs, UTRs and Escorts. This weeding process is done partially through verifying a SB via internet searches. Anyway you look at it, telling a POT that you are looking is just creepy and leads no where good. Telling a POT that there is a site where guys are chatting about them leads to nothing good unless she is UTR and asking you for help getting her name out.
All of you creepy guys, just makes it that much easier for us low key nice guys.
I've checked with few SA ladies who no longer have active profiles on SA. I had exchanged texts or emails with them before, so I had to reach out to them that way. I was wondering if they had found out an arrangement which necessitated the removal, but that's not the case. It turns out that quite a few guys (not saying that they are Board members, but could be) are allegedly using their post-doc in douchebaggery to harass, degrade, or otherwise creep out the ladies. Facebook stalking is running rampant, low-balling is the norm, the ladies fear being outed as a result of being on the site, and no one is talking real arrangements. This is totally unscientific and based on talking to less than ten ladies. I'm just relaying what I found.
Stay safe,
Milfman.I would also guess that there are those who read these sites info and look around on places like SA, and intentionally harass the women to get them to stop looking. Those are the same "Holier than though" assholes that push LEO to harass the girls and guys out there instead of go after actual criminals. They just have no other life.
LoveTheMerch
01-13-15, 19:38
A lot of the guys seem to be treating "real" SBs as UTRs. This will bring lots of problems to the arrangement. The problem (opportunity) for SD's is weeding out the profiles on SA's between SBs, UTRs and Escorts. This weeding process is done partially through verifying a SB via internet searches. Anyway you look at it, telling a POT that you are looking is just creepy and leads no where good. Telling a POT that there is a site where guys are chatting about them leads to nothing good unless she is UTR and asking you for help getting her name out.
All of you creepy guys, just makes it that much easier for us low key nice guys.The SA game is so much easier because I get to tell the women on there how creepy some of the girls are that I've met and how much I just want to meet a normal person. I have tons of lines that if I said to a girl in a bar would get me laughed at, but there are so many creepers on SA that it gets me a great selection of SBs wanting a cool, chill, low profile dude who just wants a mutually beneficial mutually respectful relationship. I never though being the nice guy would work in my favor, but here it does!
LTM.
I met her via SA, but she lives in another city where I travel. Like some of the girls around here, she claimed to be a virgin, but promised she gave great BJs and was willing to try anal. 23 years old. Yeah, sure. Whatever.
Anyway, two weeks ago I see her in her city. We spend the night together. Trust me, she is a virgin. And she still is. She felt so bad about no yet being ready for vaginal sex that she hooked me up with her sister, who is 27--and NOT a virgin. The sister and I texted some.
Speed the story along.
What is today? Friday? Wednesday night I spent the night in NYC with the sister. I bought her a ticket and arranged it so that I arrived almost an hour before she did, so we cabbed in together. We went to dinner, where she wore an incredibly skimpy dress, sans any undergarments. We made out like teenagers at dinner, went back to the hotel and fucked. Over and over.
Oh yeah: both sisters were there. At dinner. Making out at dinner. Walking down 6th Avenue. In the one king bed. In the shower. They didn't make out with each other, but they got tipsy and played with each other's tits. Several times the younger sister would position and insert my dick into her sister's honey pot. I could go, on and on and on. It was unfucking believable.
I took them to Canal Street and told them to get everything they wanted. They spent about $600. Neither asked for a nickel. I gave the younger sister (from the SB site) $500 and told her to give her older sis whatever she felt like, if anything.
I am still shocked. Still waiting for Alan Funt.
LoveTheMerch
01-20-15, 02:48
We all know there are ones we must be cautious of. This should be one you approach with caution. Seniors and trusteds can PM me for details if you wish.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ee432f09/view?conversation-inbox
LTM.
So, this girl asked me for $7500/ month in allowance to meet 1-2 times / week.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/edc71d4c/view?search-recently-active
A lot of profiles have disappeared in recent days, not sure why.
So, this girl asked me for $7500/ month in allowance to meet 1-2 times / week.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/edc71d4c/view?search-recently-active
A lot of profiles have disappeared in recent days, not sure why.It's hard not to laugh at some of them in reply after they say something like that. Being polite sometimes pays off in the long run though, after a month or so she might become more realistic in her expectations. She might then get back to you about your "the most I can do" offer, even if it's much lower than what she was initially asking.
Her profile seems a bit odd though, something just doesn't add up. Nobody her age writes like that.
Beware of this one, she seems like a scam artist.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e647a52c/view?conversation-inbox
She contacted me with a different user name and I turned her down based on things she messaged me as they sounded like a total hoax. So, she contacted me again using the account above. I know it's the same girl as she left the description on her profile the same.
Also. She constantly changes her location on profile. Secondly, she initially asked for $4 K a month. I replied saying I am looking for someone who can do for $1600/ month and she immediately agreed. It's hard to believe someone would accept an offer that's less than 50% of initial demand so immediately. She however wants the $1600 upfront in the first meeting. That's a huge red flag, atleast in my opinion.
HollywoodGuy
01-26-15, 14:52
Beware of this one, she seems like a scam artist.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e647a52c/view?conversation-inbox
She contacted me with a different user name and I turned her down based on things she messaged me as they sounded like a total hoax. So, she contacted me again using the account above. I know it's the same girl as she left the description on her profile the same.
Also. She constantly changes her location on profile. Secondly, she initially asked for $4 K a month. I replied saying I am looking for someone who can do for $1600/ month and she immediately agreed. It's hard to believe someone would accept an offer that's less than 50% of initial demand so immediately. She however wants the $1600 upfront in the first meeting. That's a huge red flag, atleast in my opinion.I am on SD4 M, but part of the problem with SA is that they force the girls to select a desired allowance amount. Just disregard that completely when selecting pots.
I'm spending tonight with a 5'11", 20 year old Georgia Tech student. Costs me an iPhone 6.
I'm spending tonight with a 5'11", 20 year old Georgia Tech student. Costs me an iPhone 6.Hey brother, tell her to use that new phone to take some NICE selfies to send us!
LoveTheMerch
01-29-15, 22:29
I wish I didn't have to remind you not to talk about this site to the girls and non-trusted members for that matter. In saying that, let me remind you that if you find information out FROM this site, don't tell the girl that you found out that information regardless of who / what you claim that source was. Discretion is the only way this information train can continue.
All I know is that the only people I told this particular piece of information to are seniors, so one of you blabbed and I need to remind all of you not to talk about this site or WHAT you find out on here to anyone. If I tell you on PM, that means it stays on PM. Otherwise, I will stop giving out information to anyone. If that even matter to any of you.
Again, if I tell you something that makes you not want to see the girl, then don't see the girl. Don't tell her why you don't want to see her especially if *I* told you privately what you need to look out for. For all you know, *I* may have been the only dude she has ever seen in her entire life and she may have no problem finding out who the talker is. Remember, you don't have to tell the girl why you want to cancel or why you don't want to see her in the first place. "something came up" is fine and genuine.
LTM.
I wish I didn't have to remind you not to talk about this site to the girls and non-trusted members for that matter. In saying that, let me remind you that if you find information out FROM this site, don't tell the girl that you found out that information regardless of who / what you claim that source was. Discretion is the only way this information train can continue.
All I know is that the only people I told this particular piece of information to are seniors, so one of you blabbed and I need to remind all of you not to talk about this site or WHAT you find out on here to anyone. If I tell you on PM, that means it stays on PM. Otherwise, I will stop giving out information to anyone. If that even matter to any of you.
Again, if I tell you something that makes you not want to see the girl, then don't see the girl. Don't tell her why you don't want to see her especially if *I* told you privately what you need to look out for. For all you know, *I* may have been the only dude she has ever seen in her entire life and she may have no problem finding out who the talker is. Remember, you don't have to tell the girl why you want to cancel or why you don't want to see her in the first place. "something came up" is fine and genuine.
LTM.I've been asked now by two different SA ladies within the first few messages if I know of this board. Be safe. Have fun.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/edc71d4c/view?search-recently-active&
Anyone seen her yet? Her monthly number keeps dropping.
"Originally Posted by KnoxTNman.
So, this girl asked me for $7500/ month in allowance to meet 1-2 times / week. ".
Dreamer469
01-30-15, 10:39
She deleted account but she looks familiar!?
HossCartwright
01-30-15, 19:31
I'm but an observer in your neck of the woods (I'm up in BNA).
Each time I come down here, I see an angry post of this type. Information is power gents! If you can establish who and what outside you can make an informed decision. Telling the world in a public forum is not the place.
Think on posting a link. If all of a sudden the girl gets numerous views to her profile, what is she going to think? The pros will think great. The newbies and real SB's will think twice about it, and typically will shy away.
Thankfully the same threat up in Nashville does not get many posts. Hell in less than 10 days since re-upping my SA account.
1 spinner fucked! $150 per week arrangement!
21 & 22 girls DTF next week for the same or less.
Still working on two others.
All with just 6 M&G's.
He'll if you all have a need, I'll set up a Google group so you can keep this shit out of the public eye! Someone step up and get this stuff behind a locked door! Those that want a SB v a hooker will be better off!
(end rant).
I wish I didn't have to remind you not to talk about this site to the girls and non-trusted members for that matter. In saying that, let me remind you that if you find information out FROM this site, don't tell the girl that you found out that information regardless of who / what you claim that source was. Discretion is the only way this information train can continue.
All I know is that the only people I told this particular piece of information to are seniors, so one of you blabbed and I need to remind all of you not to talk about this site or WHAT you find out on here to anyone. If I tell you on PM, that means it stays on PM. Otherwise, I will stop giving out information to anyone. If that even matter to any of you.
Again, if I tell you something that makes you not want to see the girl, then don't see the girl. Don't tell her why you don't want to see her especially if *I* told you privately what you need to look out for. For all you know, *I* may have been the only dude she has ever seen in her entire life and she may have no problem finding out who the talker is. Remember, you don't have to tell the girl why you want to cancel or why you don't want to see her in the first place. "something came up" is fine and genuine.
LTM.
SouthernJohn
01-30-15, 22:16
I've been asked now by two different SA ladies within the first few messages if I know of this board. Be safe. Have fun.Maybe it's because some of the SBs are actually providers that advertise ON THIS BOARD. Yep, the SB Ashley tried to play me until I called her by her provider name. Bitches be trifling.
SouthernJohn.
Didn't this discussion begin because someone blabbed about information passed via PM? (you really can't get any more private than a PM). Or did I just completely misunderstand part of the post by LoveTheMerch:
"...If I tell you on PM, that means it stays on PM..." Absolutely, that's THE rule. The problem might not be the board, but with mongers who talk about the board.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e7613d8c/view?search-recently-active
Beware of this one guys. She is a triathlon runner. No need for the gory embarrassing details. If you have contacted her watch out. If I know you I would share some details through PM. Other than that Beware is enough!Not to cast any aspersions, but what was it about those tramp tats all over her that attracted you to her? She looked like a gang banger just from her photos.
Not to cast any aspersions, but what was it about those tramp tats all over her that attracted you to her? She looked like a gang banger just from her photos.I think she's hot. To bad she did what she did. I like women with tattoos. Like forbidden fruit. Apparently this is bad apple though. Sorry for your trouble BW. Be smart guys and thanks for sharing info.
LoveTheMerch
02-04-15, 23:19
Didn't this discussion begin because someone blabbed about information passed via PM? (you really can't get any more private than a PM). Or did I just completely misunderstand part of the post by LoveTheMerch:
Absolutely, that's THE rule. The problem might not be the board, but with mongers who talk about the board.EchoEcho,
You got it right. That was my point. I did not see the benefit of a Google group either, when this forum works the same way and is already well established. At least here I have some idea who I talk with and their history and reputation. A new group would eliminate that and would just mean reinventing the wheel. If I am going to continue to post, then it will be here.
LTM.
SouthernJohn
02-05-15, 11:28
I've seen much written on the approach to use with non-pros and ladies on SA (and similar sites) across various media sources, in addition to private discussions. What I have come to understand is that your approach needs to be consistent with what you want. If you are looking for a brand new SB to break-in, there are approaches that are better aligned to success in that arena. If you are looking for an experienced SB, there are certain approaches that are in your favor.
I got into this world without knowing it over 3 years ago. I had a fabulous relationship with a lady in another state. My move to TN has torn us apart and thus started my quest for a new SB. I turned to SA because I didn't have the time to put in the legwork to cultivate a SB from the general population.
I don't have a lot of time, even given the SA supermarket of shelves stocked with all manner of potential SBs. So, I have developed a style that works for me. Many SDs like to be congenial in online communications with potential (POT) SBs. They want to schedule a meet soon to assess compatibility and see if intimacy is in the cards. They often slow-play the situation so as to not frighten off POT SBs.
I made the decision that I don't have time to work on creating meets that may only reveal incompatibilities. On addition, my business and personal travels take me through other larger cities, so my range for POT SBs covers local options plus those in other cities I frequent.
I use a process to learn as much about the POT SB as quickly as possible. Most have vague statements on the profile concerning what they are looking for. Unless she is very specific and I can rule her out based upon that, I have no problem contacting them. I cast a wide net on SA ignoring the amount they request. I am honest and accurate on my profile (don't put average if you are overweight). I don't post a public pic, but can share a private one if requested on SA.
If I get any interest back on SA, I engage quickly. Be advised, many of the younger girls get on the site infrequently and will shoot out responses to their 50 messages and then be gone for 3 or 4 days. I have no patience for that and move on.
For those that I start a dialogue with, I'm looking to establish compatibility quickly. I usually describe my current arrangement (time, frequency, general activities, etc) and ask if they are interested in something like that since I need a replacement SB. I then reveal more about my intimacy approach and ask about theirs. I ask them what they need (economics), but do not reveal what I have provided my SB. I let them know that every arrangement is between me and that SB (builds trust that you won't be discussing their business). I let them offer a number, but never treat them negatively for it. If it is crazy, I restate it like, " So you want $2000 to meet for about an hour in public once a month?" Followed by, "If you find that guy, tell him that I'll meet him for $1500. " Her reaction will tell you if she is reaching for as much as she can get, or has GPS.
During our discussions (SA, text, phone, e-mail) either of us may determine it won't work for compatibility issues (personalities, activities, availability, intimacy, economics). The sooner you can establish a problem and move on, the less time you waste.
A few weeks ago, I had meets lined up for 6 of 7 days (5 ladies, 1 repeat). 100% success rate on intimacy for 3+ hours with each. They were from as far away as 3 hours and all meets happened from Knox to Cookeville. Total outlay was less than 1300 including food and hotels, where needed. A good week, but had to rest to let skin on Mr Happy regenerate. Serious condom burn from ones that are to increase HIS pleasure. Nope.
I've had a few ladies flake on a meet, but I check ahead of time and have back up plans. I've had 1 meet that resulted in a planned session a few days later and she flaked before intimacy.
I know what I want, I go after it. I don't tolerate BS, irresponsibility, or lying. My experience is that the young girls may look great, but they are more trouble than they are worth to someone that is busy. Also, most can't hang in there during intimacy. I've found great success with insatiable, stable women.
Figure out what you want and what you are willing to invest. Take the plunge and develop your style. If you have any game, you will be successful.
I've seen much written on the approach to use with non-pros and ladies on SA (and similar sites) across various media sources, in addition to private discussions. What I have come to understand is that your approach needs to be consistent with what you want. If you are looking for a brand new SB to break-in, there are approaches that are better aligned to success in that arena. If you are looking for an experienced SB, there are certain approaches that are in your favor.
I got into this world without knowing it over 3 years ago. I had a fabulous relationship with a lady in another state. My move to TN has torn us apart and thus started my quest for a new SB. I turned to SA because I didn't have the time to put in the legwork to cultivate a SB from the general population.
I don't have a lot of time, even given the SA supermarket of shelves stocked with all manner of potential SBs. So, I have developed a style that works for me. Many SDs like to be congenial in online communications with potential (POT) SBs. They want to schedule a meet soon to assess compatibility and see if intimacy is in the cards. They often slow-play the situation so as to not frighten off POT SBs.
I made the decision that I don't have time to work on creating meets that may only reveal incompatibilities. On addition, my business and personal travels take me through other larger cities, so my range for POT SBs covers local options plus those in other cities I frequent.
I use a process to learn as much about the POT SB as quickly as possible. Most have vague statements on the profile concerning what they are looking for. Unless she is very specific and I can rule her out based upon that, I have no problem contacting them. I cast a wide net on SA ignoring the amount they request. I am honest and accurate on my profile (don't put average if you are overweight). I don't post a public pic, but can share a private one if requested on SA.
If I get any interest back on SA, I engage quickly. Be advised, many of the younger girls get on the site infrequently and will shoot out responses to their 50 messages and then be gone for 3 or 4 days. I have no patience for that and move on.
For those that I start a dialogue with, I'm looking to establish compatibility quickly. I usually describe my current arrangement (time, frequency, general activities, etc) and ask if they are interested in something like that since I need a replacement SB. I then reveal more about my intimacy approach and ask about theirs. I ask them what they need (economics), but do not reveal what I have provided my SB. I let them know that every arrangement is between me and that SB (builds trust that you won't be discussing their business). I let them offer a number, but never treat them negatively for it. If it is crazy, I restate it like, " So you want $2000 to meet for about an hour in public once a month?" Followed by, "If you find that guy, tell him that I'll meet him for $1500. " Her reaction will tell you if she is reaching for as much as she can get, or has GPS.
During our discussions (SA, text, phone, e-mail) either of us may determine it won't work for compatibility issues (personalities, activities, availability, intimacy, economics). The sooner you can establish a problem and move on, the less time you waste.
A few weeks ago, I had meets lined up for 6 of 7 days (5 ladies, 1 repeat). 100% success rate on intimacy for 3+ hours with each. They were from as far away as 3 hours and all meets happened from Knox to Cookeville. Total outlay was less than 1300 including food and hotels, where needed. A good week, but had to rest to let skin on Mr Happy regenerate. Serious condom burn from ones that are to increase HIS pleasure. Nope.
I've had a few ladies flake on a meet, but I check ahead of time and have back up plans. I've had 1 meet that resulted in a planned session a few days later and she flaked before intimacy.
I know what I want, I go after it. I don't tolerate BS, irresponsibility, or lying. My experience is that the young girls may look great, but they are more trouble than they are worth to someone that is busy. Also, most can't hang in there during intimacy. I've found great success with insatiable, stable women.
Figure out what you want and what you are willing to invest. Take the plunge and develop your style. If you have any game, you will be successful.Very well stated.
I think she's hot. To bad she did what she did. I like women with tattoos. Like forbidden fruit. Apparently this is bad apple though. Sorry for your trouble BW. Be smart guys and thanks for sharing info.I don't have any problems with tats, but when they have a cheap looking amateur tat that looks like they got it while in prison right across the top of their chest, I try to stay away.
MilfMan865
02-05-15, 19:51
Figure out what you want and what you are willing to invest. Take the plunge and develop your style. If you have any game, you will be successful.Your SA formula is superbly articulated sir. Spoken from a gentleman with a plethora of SA experience and successful notches on his belt. Quite a few gems of information in your depiction, so it is much appreciated. Off for strip club takeout for me ...
Stay Safe,
Milfman.
HollywoodGuy
02-05-15, 20:04
I've seen much written on the approach to use with non-pros and ladies on SA (and similar sites) across various media sources, in addition to private discussions. What I have come to understand is that your approach needs to be consistent with what you want. If you are looking for a brand new SB to break-in, there are approaches that are better aligned to success in that arena. If you are looking for an experienced SB, there are certain approaches that are in your favor.You should post this in the richmond virgina sugar daddy thread, we have contributors from all over the country there. Check it out. Liked your post.
ShootingStars
02-05-15, 22:59
I've seen much written on the approach to use with non-pros and ladies on SA (and similar sites) across various media sources, in addition to private discussions. What I have come to understand is that your approach needs to be consistent with what you want. If you are looking for a brand new SB to break-in, there are approaches that are better aligned to success in that arena. If you are looking for an experienced SB, there are certain approaches that are in your favor.
Breaking through the newer ones' initial jitters is probably the biggest barrier. Once you show that you can offer consistency, they are incredibly happy. Probably the one thing I have trouble with is not taking a straight enough approach. One of mine kept asking why I could never see her on a weekend. I make it a point not to talk about any other relationships, and I like building up the fantasy that it could turn into something else, but in the end, come on. Be real.
SouthernJohn
02-20-15, 00:56
Just keeping it real.
Earlier I posted that a certain provider from this board tried to play me. She went by Ashley on SA, but we know her as Mandee (doubles with Blount Honey). While Mandee's performance may be stellar (and doubles with BH could be legendary), I don't take kindly to the dishonesty and deceit she displayed in dealing with me. I'm fine if pros want to pose as SBs, but don't try to BS me when I know your game.
So, while I haven't had any contact with either of these ladies on SA, they are both well known on this board.
Jenna1018 from Powell is SexiLexi.
Tonya N from Knoxville is LoveToPlease.
If you want to get in touch with them, feel free to use their contact info on the board or you can contact them on SA. The price structure is quite different though. You've been informed.
SouthernJohn.
ThermoNuclear
02-20-15, 10:24
Just keeping it real.
...
.Thanks for the heads up SouthernJohn.
In the same spirit, I'm pretty sure "Brooke L. " is Blount Honey.
Thanks for the heads up SouthernJohn.
In the same spirit, I'm pretty sure "Brooke L. " is Blount Honey.T.
Now you two will probably bash me since I don't have your "senior" title but it doesn't matter to me if you do. To be begin be honest what are you truly looking for on that site, most likely a lady that you don't have to book an appointment with that say but one you can set up on a weekly basis same time every week. Don't fool yourself thinking since they are not a "pro-vider" they are not seeing other SD's also that is naive thinking. If when of those girls mentioned would find a guy that fullfils all they need they might just might stop being a provider. (Doubtful though) All I am saying is yes they shouldn't try denying being a provider if you KNOW 100% they are but even so it is how they chose to get be and who are we to begrudge them what they want if "we" are willing to supply them with the means. That is just my opinion take it or leave it, but I personally would post their names on here publicly but in a PM to members that are curious. I know a few more providers on that site and others that are on here and some well respected but I choose not to air their business publicly.
Bezee.
SouthernJohn
02-20-15, 13:51
Thanks for the heads up SouthernJohn.
In the same spirit, I'm pretty sure "Brooke L. " is Blount Honey.The "Brooke L. " account was the same one that was titled "Ashley" and Mandee was working me from. BH may be using the same SeekingArrangement account (they use the same phone number on here so it's not a stretch). Regardless of who is behind the SA account, we know it's one of the doubles partners.
Play safe. Play smart.
SouthernJohn.
LoveToPlease
02-20-15, 19:09
Just keeping it real.
Earlier I posted that a certain provider from this board tried to play me. She went by Ashley on SA, but we know her as Mandee (doubles with Blount Honey). While Mandee's performance may be stellar (and doubles with BH could be legendary), I don't take kindly to the dishonesty and deceit she displayed in dealing with me. I'm fine if pros want to pose as SBs, but don't try to BS me when I know your game.
So, while I haven't had any contact with either of these ladies on SA, they are both well known on this board.
Jenna1018 from Powell is SexiLexi.
Tonya N from Knoxville is LoveToPlease.
If you want to get in touch with them, feel free to use their contact info on the board or you can contact them on SA. The price structure is quite different though. You've been informed.
SouthernJohn.I do post here and on SA. I have never tried to hide that from anyone. I use the same pictures so that lets you know I'm not posing as someone else on SA. The board is slow for me for the last few weeks so I've had to branch out. I've never told anyone that they are the only one I see. Several providers that post here also post on SA. Why did you choose to call me out?
SouthernJohn
02-21-15, 01:52
I do post here and on SA. I have never tried to hide that from anyone. I use the same pictures so that lets you know I'm not posing as someone else on SA. The board is slow for me for the last few weeks so I've had to branch out. I've never told anyone that they are the only one I see. Several providers that post here also post on SA. Why did you choose to call me out?1). I didn't call just you out. I provided information to the members of this board on THREE different providers that I knew were also on SA. There may be more, but these are the only ones I have knowledge of.
2). I admitted that I had no contact with two of you through SA. I made no reference or implied that you were being deceitful (Mandee is another issue). I DID point out the difference in the economics. Anyone can look at your requested monthly amount on SA and also look at your posted rates here and see for themselves.
3). If you went to SA to make up for slow times here on the board, how would this revelation be harmful. At worst, someone that found you on SA would ask for your board rates. Therefore your board business picks up (good for you). If you would like to propose that this information would be costing you the difference between the SA monthly amount and a few board rate visits, then your "I'm not deceiving anyone" argument falls apart.
4). If someone was looking for a SB and ended up with a pro, that was not what they were looking for. You stating that you never tell them that they are the only one you are seeing isn't a false statement, but it is withholding truth (both are deceit). So, I provided information and they can make the decision based upon what they want.
5). I have nothing at all against you. In fact, I constantly see GREAT reviews about your performance. You have a fan following and it appears repeat business. I'm sorry that it is a bit slow for you lately.
So, if SA is just another advertising venue and a rate generating mechanism, then it shouldn't matter if those that read this board know. You use the same pic so it should be obvious to them. But we are guys. Sometimes a bit slow.
I answered your public question with public answers. If you would like to discuss this any further, I suggest PM.
SouthernJohn.
SouthernJohn
02-21-15, 02:10
T.
Now you two will probably bash me since I don't have your "senior" title but it doesn't matter to me if you do. To be begin be honest what are you truly looking for on that site, most likely a lady that you don't have to book an appointment with that say but one you can set up on a weekly basis same time every week. Don't fool yourself thinking since they are not a "pro-vider" they are not seeing other SD's also that is naive thinking. If when of those girls mentioned would find a guy that fullfils all they need they might just might stop being a provider. (Doubtful though) All I am saying is yes they shouldn't try denying being a provider if you KNOW 100% they are but even so it is how they chose to get be and who are we to begrudge them what they want if "we" are willing to supply them with the means. That is just my opinion take it or leave it, but I personally would post their names on here publicly but in a PM to members that are curious. I know a few more providers on that site and others that are on here and some well respected but I choose not to air their business publicly.
Bezee.You make a few decent points, but none addressed the thrust of my original post. If an inexperienced SD didn't know how to figure out that they are dealing with a pro (many partners), they aren't getting what they want / expected. Note: even if a true SB is seeing multiple SDs, that generally low mileage in comparison.
I also pointed out the stark discrepancy in the economics. If you want to pay $3 k / month for 3-4 two hour dates, have at it. It's way less at their board rates. We all know negotiation happens and the SA rates are over-inflated. Still, there's no need to deal with that BS when the rate is on the board.
Now, here is the situation as I see it. I provided information for the benefit of the guys. If the girls don't like it, that's fine. I just stated facts. I didn't make generalizations or make irresponsible statements. None of the guys will ever doubt that I stand in their corner first and foremost.
SouthernJohn.
Member #4430
02-21-15, 09:49
The "Brooke L. " account was the same one that was titled "Ashley" and Mandee was working me from. BH may be using the same SeekingArrangement account (they use the same phone number on here so it's not a stretch). Regardless of who is behind the SA account, we know it's one of the doubles partners.
Play safe. Play smart.
SouthernJohn.Brrrrr its chilly and snowy outside. I think I will go outside play in the snow and make beautiful snow angels.
LoveTheMerch
02-21-15, 11:48
I have to agree most with number 4 below. That to me is the most troubling. If I go on SA I want one thing if I go on escort ads to get a date, I am wanting another. I have pretty much gone exclusively SA now and find it very troubling when a girl I have met previously as an escort or seen advertising as one is advertising on both sites. Worse is when I don't know until I meet her. I am not saying I know a provider's motives in those cases and I am not pretending to know them. It does seem deceitful to me to be advertising as a SB when in reality you are just finding new revenue streams as an escort. Every SB relationship is different, indeed. Just as any guy who goes onto SA to search out an escort or an escort type relationship would fall into the same category. I see guys post all the time here as if that is all they are looking for in a SB from SA. So, there is a lot of hypocrisy when a guy here criticizes a provider for essentially using SA for doing the same thing. The relationship I am looking for on SA is fundamentally different than the relationships I am looking for on escort sites.
Disclaimer: I am not calling anyone in particular out and I am not saying anything is wrong, just pointing out my opinion on a matter which seems to be up for discussion. Perhaps SA is a totally appropriate place to get and find escorts. I just think it is important to be honest and not call a spade a heart.
1). I didn't call just you out. I provided information to the members of this board on THREE different providers that I knew were also on SA. There may be more, but these are the only ones I have knowledge of.
2). I admitted that I had no contact with two of you through SA. I made no reference or implied that you were being deceitful (Mandee is another issue). I DID point out the difference in the economics. Anyone can look at your requested monthly amount on SA and also look at your posted rates here and see for themselves.
3). If you went to SA to make up for slow times here on the board, how would this revelation be harmful. At worst, someone that found you on SA would ask for your board rates. Therefore your board business picks up (good for you). If you would like to propose that this information would be costing you the difference between the SA monthly amount and a few board rate visits, then your "I'm not deceiving anyone" argument falls apart.
4). If someone was looking for a SB and ended up with a pro, that was not what they were looking for. You stating that you never tell them that they are the only one you are seeing isn't a false statement, but it is withholding truth (both are deceit). So, I provided information and they can make the decision based upon what they want.
5). I have nothing at all against you. In fact, I constantly see GREAT reviews about your performance. You have a fan following and it appears repeat business. I'm sorry that it is a bit slow for you lately.
So, if SA is just another advertising venue and a rate generating mechanism, then it shouldn't matter if those that read this board know. You use the same pic so it should be obvious to them. But we are guys. Sometimes a bit slow.
I answered your public question with public answers. If you would like to discuss this any further, I suggest PM.
SouthernJohn.
MilfMan865
02-21-15, 23:40
4). If someone was looking for a SB and ended up with a pro, that was not what they were looking for. You stating that you never tell them that they are the only one you are seeing isn't a false statement, but it is withholding truth (both are deceit). So, I provided information and they can make the decision based upon what they want.Suitable points made and pertinent information. I'd hate to see the reaction of a dude looking for a "wholesome" SB and ended up with a "seasoned" pro. SA is not as ripe for the picking as it used to be. I get information from gals saying, "I'd like to get help on a per visit basis until we can decide on a monthly arrangement". Call it what you want, but that is reminiscent of pro-talk to me with the exception of the monthly arrangement aspect. Most of those gals are getting test driven like a used car at a buy here. Pay here lot, so they have gotten wiser with respect to getting something out of the situation. Several of the gals that have dropped off of SA and continued to reach out to me talked about spending 4-5 hours with a dude for little more than a thanks. It's so easy for dude to specify on his profile that escorts or Pros are restricted from contacting him, but escorts or Pros aren't supposed to be on SA anyway (the good ole honor system. You can block them or go as far as reporting them if you so choose). The information that SouthernJohn provided is relevant because guys need to be aware that plenty of Pros are masquerading as SBs (who would otherwise be naive to the SD / SB game). I'm still playing the SA game, but it's not all that it's cracked out to be. I've run across some certifiable flakes and vindictive gals who could cause some serious problem for a fella. If a dude wants to see a Pro, he can use a virtually unlimited number of resources to find one. If a dude wants a seemingly regular girl, who will have no limits for 40-50 roses per hour for her time. Needing a little help with bills and not trying to make a living from it. SA has helped fill that void. It's still supply and demand regardless of how you slice it.
Keep boosting the economy.
Milfman.
https://knoxville.craigslist.org/cas/4904110831.html
In case the link doesn't work still I think she went as Satobaby and now showing up under Craigslist under MW4 MW did anyone have any contact with her on the site? I wonder if she got swooped up by some guy and now they are looking for more playmates or if someone is using her pics?
Volgrad0708
02-25-15, 14:57
https://knoxville.craigslist.org/cas/4904110831.html
In case the link doesn't work still I think she went as Satobaby and now showing up under Craigslist under MW4 MW did anyone have any contact with her on the site? I wonder if she got swooped up by some guy and now they are looking for more playmates or if someone is using her pics?She def was Sato. I have actually had lots of contact with her and know her and knew her before she signed up on SA. As many of you can figure out, she isn't that age and that's not even remotely her name. I know, rarely do we ever find these girls names out, but I trust this one. She was very upset about the whole CL deal and I helped her get it removed.
She is a very fun time though.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e48380c7/view?conversation-inbox
Was messaging back and forth yesterday with this one. Started off vanilla. I mentioned I love to give but like to take. She asked what did I mean, in the same message asking when could we meet. Here is my response last night.
"Give and take, referring more to sexual activities. I want you to always be satisfied first if at all possible, but I want mine too. Example, I like receiving oral, but I love giving oral so much more. To make you squirm and squeal while my tongue darts and teases, with your bottom in my hands and my fingers exploring. Give and take. ".
Now this morning she has blocked me. I just had to post this experience. Hilarious. The chase just gets more exciting.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e7989b45/view?interests-viewed-me
Good value for your money. Enjoys herself. $1 per meet.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ed59bd59/view?interests-viewed-me
Fun, dependable (shows up on time everytime), likes to have fun. $3 week, couple meets a week.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e260634c/view?search-recently-active
Fun, small enough to place where you want her, eager. $2 per meet.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e04340c4/view?interests-viewed-me
This one is quite, willing but not skilled. Awkward. $2. 5 per meet.
Happy hunting.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e7989b45/view?interests-viewed-me
Good value for your money. Enjoys herself. $1 per meet.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ed59bd59/view?interests-viewed-me
Fun, dependable (shows up on time everytime), likes to have fun. $3 week, couple meets a week.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e260634c/view?search-recently-active
Fun, small enough to place where you want her, eager. $2 per meet.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e04340c4/view?interests-viewed-me
This one is quite, willing but not skilled. Awkward. $2. 5 per meet.
Happy hunting.Is Megan 20 for real? The site indicates that her last log in country was Brazil. I love the looks of her and her height.
HK.
Is Megan 20 for real? The site indicates that her last log in country was Brazil. I love the looks of her and her height.
HK.In Brazil for six weeks, school thing. Experienced SB. She handles getting room wherever we meet. And she's embarrassed by her height. Lovely figure.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e7989b45/view?search-recently-active
This one is a handful. Willing participant in every cense of the word. Down side is Morristown and she is in her forties, so I know everyone isn't into that age group, and she smokes (not while I was present) and it lingers. Her oral skills are close to phenomenal. She's good with $1 per visit. She's aggressive. Like her toys. Bring your on covers, she's quick to point out she isn't a pro. Someone else please step up, I've got my hands full with work and well you know. Just hang on, cause it's one wild ride.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e7989b45/view?search-recently-active
This one is a handful. Willing participant in every cense of the word. Down side is Morristown and she is in her forties, so I know everyone isn't into that age group, and she smokes (not while I was present) and it lingers. Her oral skills are close to phenomenal. She's good with $1 per visit. She's aggressive. Like her toys. Bring your on covers, she's quick to point out she isn't a pro. Someone else please step up, I've got my hands full with work and well you know. Just hang on, cause it's one wild ride.I am about to step up. Been talking with her and WOW. Can't wait to see her. From talking with her everything you say seems right. Beautiful titties, big nipples and think she puts her all into oral.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e7989b45/view?search-recently-active
This one is a handful. Willing participant in every cense of the word. Down side is Morristown and she is in her forties, so I know everyone isn't into that age group, and she smokes (not while I was present) and it lingers. Her oral skills are close to phenomenal. She's good with $1 per visit. She's aggressive. Like her toys. Bring your on covers, she's quick to point out she isn't a pro. Someone else please step up, I've got my hands full with work and well you know. Just hang on, cause it's one wild ride.I have not asked any of these ladies for permission to give out their digits. I will continue to report findings from my adventures on SA, with individual links, but you will have to pay your own way to play on the site. These aren't utr's asking me to help find them customers. Not in any way trying to be a dick. I just don't want any of them to think I'm pimping them out. Thanks for understanding. J.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e15ec68c/view?interests-viewed-me
Pictures are a bit misleading as is "athletic". Sweet girl, just not for me. I just did meet / greet and no more. Filled her car with gas.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e15ec68c/view?interests-viewed-me
Pictures are a bit misleading as is "athletic". Sweet girl, just not for me. I just did meet / greet and no more. Filled her car with gas.That degree in Phycology would have stopped me before I started.
That degree in Phycology would have stopped me before I started.I love to fuck with people who think they're smart. Being a recovering addict, I've got a twisted mind. All she could say is why she didn't know something. Her degree is shit, she can't even get a license to be a therapist without 2-3 more years of school. Apparently grad school is the new required degree to get a job. Poor kids getting out of school with so much debt and no chance for good paying job without getting more into debt. I say learn a trade, we'll be building or repairing from now on.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e15ec68c/view?interests-viewed-me
Pictures are a bit misleading as is "athletic". Sweet girl, just not for me. I just did meet / greet and no more. Filled her car with gas.I've messaged with her a few times and she's definitely seeming eager. Can you elaborate on what you mean by the pics being misleading? Feel free to PM if you prefer.
Thanks in advance!
I've messaged with her a few times and she's definitely seeming eager. Can you elaborate on what you mean by the pics being misleading? Feel free to PM if you prefer.
Thanks in advance!She is not athletically built today. For the record, neither am I. But I don't describe myself that way either.
SouthernJohn
03-29-15, 21:29
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e2bd4abd/view?conversation-inbox
5' 1" blonde hair, green eyes, slim.
She just put up her profile today. States she's 18. She indicated that she'd had 2 previous bad experiences.
Set the terms and scheduled a meet for tonight. Asked me if I could come to Oak Ridge. I agreed. She stated she wanted it to be at a hotel in town (no problem). She also stated that she wanted the "help" up front. I told her that I don't do that. She can get help after we are done. She asked for an hour to get ready (no problem). I sent her a few PMs to get info before heading over. Shock. Silence. Could see she read my PMs on SA, including the this one (Seems like I should make other plans.). After typing up my review, I sent her a last PM to see if she would like to explain before I made my post. Second shock. She replied with "I'm sorry things came up & a post? Yeah, right.
My guess is that she is (1) very inexperienced / scared, (2) was planning a cash & dash, (3) was planning to get the help and then do as little as possible, or (4) got a better offer and left me hanging. Doesn't matter, I have zero tolerance for all of them.
Back up plan (always have one) is engaged.
Stay safe and have fun.
SouthernJohn.
ShootingStars
03-30-15, 02:23
5' 1" blonde hair, green eyes, slim.
After typing up my review, I sent her a last PM to see if she would like to explain before I made my post. Second shock. She replied with "I'm sorry things came up & a post? Yeah, right.
My guess is that she is (1) very inexperienced / scared, (2) was planning a cash & dash, (3) was planning to get the help and then do as little as possible, or (4) got a better offer and left me hanging. Doesn't matter, I have zero tolerance for all of them.
Hey SJ thanks for the warning. I know burning our time and efforts can be a hassle, but that's part of the appeal of hooking a non-pro. You already know but to new people -- a brand new girl? She's going to have tons of PMs. I figure any new girl is a crapshoot. Either you get to them first, or you deal with a big headache. I bet she did get a more appealing offer (on her terms) or from someone younger, dumber, with a larger salary, or all three. If she is really 18, I'd expect nothing but flakeville.
LoveTheMerch
03-31-15, 02:19
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e2bd4abd/view?conversation-inbox
5' 1" blonde hair, green eyes, slim.
She just put up her profile today. States she's 18. She indicated that she'd had 2 previous bad experiences.
Set the terms and scheduled a meet for tonight. Asked me if I could come to Oak Ridge. I agreed. She stated she wanted it to be at a hotel in town (no problem). She also stated that she wanted the "help" up front. I told her that I don't do that. She can get help after we are done. She asked for an hour to get ready (no problem). I sent her a few PMs to get info before heading over. Shock. Silence. Could see she read my PMs on SA, including the this one (Seems like I should make other plans.). After typing up my review, I sent her a last PM to see if she would like to explain before I made my post. Second shock. She replied with "I'm sorry things came up & a post? Yeah, right.
My guess is that she is (1) very inexperienced / scared, (2) was planning a cash & dash, (3) was planning to get the help and then do as little as possible, or (4) got a better offer and left me hanging. Doesn't matter, I have zero tolerance for all of them.
Back up plan (always have one) is engaged.
Stay safe and have fun.
SouthernJohn.Clearly a breach of the SA "fight club" creed if you are telling the girl that you are going to "post" about her. If the girl is really an SA girl, then she has no idea about this review board and should never learn about it. Don't talk about fight club dudes. You ruin it for all of us. That being said, thanks for the heads up on this one.
LTM.
SouthernJohn
03-31-15, 18:10
While your message about not discussing this board is valid, there was no breach of "fight club creed" here. I will not go into the details (here or in PM). She's no SB and should be avoided by all.
Clearly a breach of the SA "fight club" creed if you are telling the girl that you are going to "post" about her. If the girl is really an SA girl, then she has no idea about this review board and should never learn about it. Don't talk about fight club dudes. You ruin it for all of us. That being said, thanks for the heads up on this one.
LTM.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e0024e29/view?search-recently-active
Take me to Tokyo. Its more like I would like to send her to Tokyo. She asks for a lot up front and then has a real attitude about returning calls or meeting even for coffee. I let the little head do the thinking or I would have never given her cash up front. She is the girl in the pics and is hot.
Gibson1970
04-02-15, 09:23
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e0024e29/view?search-recently-active
Take me to Tokyo. Its more like I would like to send her to Tokyo. She asks for a lot up front and then has a real attitude about returning calls or meeting even for coffee. I let the little head do the thinking or I would have never given her cash up front. She is the girl in the pics and is hot.Sorry to hear HardKnox. I've had a few ladies give me the bleeding heart crap (kid can't eat, not place to stay, etc.) while on SA.com. I make sure to tell them in the first message that I don't give money until we are intimate. I just assume they are bullshitting me. Kind of harsh, but keeps you from being played.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e2bd4abd/view?interests-viewed-me
Very quick to give a price for first meet and then from now on price. I haven't even asked her name.
MilfMan865
04-06-15, 17:13
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e2bd4abd/view?interests-viewed-me
Very quick to give a price for first meet and then from now on price. I haven't even asked her name.Read post number 209 below: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?12509-Seeking-Arrangements-%28SA%29&p=2417097&viewfull=1#post2417097.
Urged to use extreme caution in the report.
-milfman.
Read post number 209 below: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?12509-Seeking-Arrangements-%28SA%29&p=2417097&viewfull=1#post2417097.
Urged to use extreme caution in the report.
-milfman.I remember reading that before. Sorry, I should have looked before I asked. My bad. Thanks for directing me to the post, MM.
I have been messaging this gal. She is hard to get read on. Comes off as p2 p but sort of beats around bush. Not sure if it is just a play for cash. Any info would be appreciated.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e8d5df7d/view?search-recently-active
Thinking of contacting this one also if anyone has the scoop.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1338a0d/view?search-recently-active
I have been messaging this gal. She is hard to get read on. Comes off as p2 p but sort of beats around bush. Not sure if it is just a play for cash. Any info would be appreciated.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e8d5df7d/view?search-recently-active
Thinking of contacting this one also if anyone has the scoop.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1338a0d/view?search-recently-activeSecond link isn't working. See if this works.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1338a0d/view?search-recently-active
SouthernJohn
04-10-15, 08:11
Her profile states she is 22 and located in Knoxville.
I short-cutters many of my screening processes and began regretting it. My methods have generally served me very well. This experience was a "gentle" reminder to stick with my approach.
Chloe got onto SA in April and I contacted her. We chatted a bit on SA and then by text. We talked $ and she finally agreed to my number. We set up a day to meet. She had to rearrange her work schedule to make it happen. I stopped by her work and met her the day before our arranged meet. Saw that her pics were likely years old and 30+ lbs ago. Based upon her situation and having rearranged her work, I didn't feel comfortable backing out. Normally, I would have vetted that better, so it was my own fault.
The day of the meet she again addressed our deal. I told her I do the deal we made. So, we confirmed the start time, duration, and amount, again. I drove to a nearby town where she lives and got a place. She showed on time, but was nervous. Said it was her first meet. I talked with her for awhile to allow her to get comfortable. She stated her relative would pick her up at a certain time. The time she stated was prior to when we were supposed to be finished. She looked confused and I did the math for her. Told her she could have the relative pick her up after we were done.
A few minutes later she stated she was too nervous and started apologizing for wasting my time. I told her not to worry, that she needed to be comfortable with the situation or it wouldn't be right. She offered to reimburse me for the room, but I told her not to worry about it.
I would have just let it all go, writing it off to an ultra nervous first-timer. However, she was back working the SA website within 20 minutes. So, maybe she's new. Maybe she didn't like me. Maybe she had a hard commitment that wouldn't allow her to stay the entire time. Don't know. However, the rest of you now know what went on with she and I should you choose to contact her.
SouthernJohn.
SouthernJohn
04-10-15, 08:15
Second link isn't working. See if this works.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1338a0d/view?search-recently-activeHaven't seen either. Limited chatting with the first and more extensive negotiations with the second. P Hunt, check your PM for details.
SouthernJohn.
Gibson1970
04-10-15, 12:12
Haven't seen either. Limited chatting with the first and more extensive negotiations with the second. P Hunt, check your PM for details.
SouthernJohn.I would be interested in knowing more about "Nicole". Is this the one you are calling Chloe?
I had Nicole down as a favorite but haven't contacted yet.
SouthernJohn
04-10-15, 22:14
I would be interested in knowing more about "Nicole". Is this the one you are calling Chloe?
I had Nicole down as a favorite but haven't contacted yet.I had an aborted meeting with Chloe. I also stated I never met either of the girls that P Hunt mentioned. So, Chloe cannot be Nicole. You can follow P Hunt's links to which girls he referenced. I couldn't get the link to post so I put Chloe's screen name in the title.
KenVetteman
04-11-15, 15:40
What am I doing wrong when I go to SA I only find males can't find how to search for females.
What am I doing wrong when I go to SA I only find males can't find how to search for females.Check your profile settings.
KenVetteman
04-11-15, 16:17
Check your profile settings.Thank you ken.
But seems to play games with endless messaging. Having some good luck with others though.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/edc71d4c/view?conversation-inbox
Is this Charlie's Curves?
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Thebossmro
04-14-15, 01:09
Is this Charlie's Curves?
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e5aeb7ed/view?conversation-sentNo that is not her.
KnoxFourMe
04-14-15, 01:20
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e2bd4abd/view?search-recently-active
Could just be she is busy but think this one is a scammer.
After much lurking, signed up last week on SA. Have gotten heavy marketing from Kelsowellso. , who is also on SD4 Me. She wants a high priced restaurant for a first meet. Any more info than what is already posted below?
Got a picture request from DEE DEE, https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ecf1f62a/view?interests-my-favorites . Any intel? Thanks.
Bob.
SouthernJohn
04-14-15, 11:31
I have been messaging this gal. She is hard to get read on. Comes off as p2 p but sort of beats around bush. Not sure if it is just a play for cash. Any info would be appreciated.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e8d5df7d/view?search-recently-active
Thinking of contacting this one also if anyone has the scoop.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1338a0d/view?search-recently-activeThe lady in the first link goes by ashmariebarbie. I texted with her late last week and she didn't like my proposed arrangement. She wanted to be paid for going to dinner and I told her that I didn't do that. After wishing her well, I told her to contact me if she ever changed her mind. Something made her snap (one of you guys?) and she tore into me via message on SA (got her facts all wrong and leveled some slanderous statements). She claimed she was turning my info (texts, etc) over to the police (LOL). I blocked her and reported her to the SA Admin (received confirmation they are investigating her behavior). I also noticed she changed her profile pic and rewrote her profile (more LOL).
So, save yourself the grief and avoid the PSYCHO.
The lady in the first link goes by ashmariebarbie. I texted with her late last week and she didn't like my proposed arrangement. She wanted to be paid for going to dinner and I told her that I didn't do that. After wishing her well, I told her to contact me if she ever changed her mind. Something made her snap (one of you guys?) and she tore into me via message on SA (got her facts all wrong and leveled some slanderous statements). She claimed she was turning my info (texts, etc) over to the police (LOL). I blocked her and reported her to the SA Admin (received confirmation they are investigating her behavior). I also noticed she changed her profile pic and rewrote her profile (more LOL).
So, save yourself the grief and avoid the PSYCHO.Some of these young ladies must think we can only think with our little heads. I think AMB is fine and wouldn't mind at all putting her on a monthly allowance for regular visits. However, some of these young ladies have this 50 shades of grey delusion. This game of meeting with me pouring sugar on them then they decide after accepting the sugar that we don't click is a game I won't play. I have chemistry with my SO. We have an unspoken don't ask don't tell, don't expose her to something she don't want, and for God's sake definitely don't be seen by friends or family. Taking some young girl to Ruth's Chris or the Orangery is never going to happen with me. Now, if we have a regular thing and she is cool when I go to Atl she can come along.
A few of these ladies think they can go out to dinner with an older guy pick up $50-$100 w / o ever having any intention of being a sugar baby. They see a dozen guys a month that fall for that shit and collect $600-$1200 a month. Not bad but very little difference between that and cash & dash in my mind.
After much lurking, signed up last week on SA. Have gotten heavy marketing from Kelsowellso. , who is also on SD4 Me. She wants a high priced restaurant for a first meet. Any more info than what is already posted below?
Got a picture request from DEE DEE, https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ecf1f62a/view?interests-my-favorites . Any intel? Thanks.
Bob.I have talked to kelsowellso as well. Although I haven't pulled the trigger yet, she was willing to give me a BJ in the car for 100. She gets in touch almost every day wanting to get together. She said 200 a week would work for her. Good luck.
SouthernJohn
04-16-15, 22:29
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NikkiDy (31). Knoxville.
Avoid this time-waster. On Saturday, we made arrangements to meet in west Knox for Sunday lunch and then (if we both felt comfortable) some additional activities. We were communicating via the site where she was near wifi since she stated that she had no minutes on her phone. The next day, I sent her a message on SA 2 hrs before our meeting time, but got no response. Since I needed to do some things over in west Knox anyway, I took the chance and headed over anyway. Guess what? No show. So I had a nice meal, ran my errands, and engaged my back-up plan (ALWAYS have a backup plan, gents).
I waited to see how long it would take for her to get in touch with me. It was Monday when she messaged me "Sorry, I still don't have a phone" and "Are you busy today?" Asked her why I would want to after what she did. Got no response. Prompted her the following day and she stated she didn't feel like she blew me off. After some back and forth messages, we agreed to a fresh start.
Set a new meeting for this evening closer to her location. She even confirmed it 15 min before the meet time. Guess what? No show again. So, I engaged my backup plan. Saw she got back on the SA site 3. 5 hrs after our meet time, However, she did not contact me. So, I know she is just malicious (versus something coming up).
So, avoid the worthless time waster.
SouthernJohn.
Gibson1970
04-17-15, 10:09
Southern John,
You are correct to always have a back-up plan and I feel your pain on the no shows, but have some patience with these girls. I will tell you about one of my experiences.
I started texting a girl in Nashville and we agreed to meet for Lunch when I was in town for Business. Well she cancelled. No biggie as I was in town for Business.
A few weeks later we started texting again. We would set up meetings and she cancelled twice (her coming to me). I figured she was fake and running a scam.
She always notified me and kept in touch and since she was coming to me she wasn't wasting much of my time.
Well, after three times we finally hook up and it was the best sex I've ever had.
We start off with some DFK, get naked and turns out she is a freak. She licks my balls, gives me a rimjob and then lets me stick it in her ass and then lets me cum on her face. Felt like a pornstar LOL.
I had pretty much given up on this girl, but I never burned any bridges. With girls of this age you got to have alot of patience and a backup plan. There are some good ones on SA.com.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e8e3652a/view?conversation-sent
NikkiDy (31). Knoxville.
Avoid this time-waster. On Saturday, we made arrangements to meet in west Knox for Sunday lunch and then (if we both felt comfortable) some additional activities. We were communicating via the site where she was near wifi since she stated that she had no minutes on her phone. The next day, I sent her a message on SA 2 hrs before our meeting time, but got no response. Since I needed to do some things over in west Knox anyway, I took the chance and headed over anyway. Guess what? No show. So I had a nice meal, ran my errands, and engaged my back-up plan (ALWAYS have a backup plan, gents).
I waited to see how long it would take for her to get in touch with me. It was Monday when she messaged me "Sorry, I still don't have a phone" and "Are you busy today?" Asked her why I would want to after what she did. Got no response. Prompted her the following day and she stated she didn't feel like she blew me off. After some back and forth messages, we agreed to a fresh start.
Set a new meeting for this evening closer to her location. She even confirmed it 15 min before the meet time. Guess what? No show again. So, I engaged my backup plan. Saw she got back on the SA site 3. 5 hrs after our meet time, However, she did not contact me. So, I know she is just malicious (versus something coming up).
So, avoid the worthless time waster.
SouthernJohn.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e8e3652a/view?conversation-sent
NikkiDy (31). Knoxville.
Avoid this time-waster. On Saturday, we made arrangements to meet in west Knox for Sunday lunch and then (if we both felt comfortable) some additional activities. We were communicating via the site where she was near wifi since she stated that she had no minutes on her phone. The next day, I sent her a message on SA 2 hrs before our meeting time, but got no response. Since I needed to do some things over in west Knox anyway, I took the chance and headed over anyway. Guess what? No show. So I had a nice meal, ran my errands, and engaged my back-up plan (ALWAYS have a backup plan, gents).
I waited to see how long it would take for her to get in touch with me. It was Monday when she messaged me "Sorry, I still don't have a phone" and "Are you busy today?" Asked her why I would want to after what she did. Got no response. Prompted her the following day and she stated she didn't feel like she blew me off. After some back and forth messages, we agreed to a fresh start.
Set a new meeting for this evening closer to her location. She even confirmed it 15 min before the meet time. Guess what? No show again. So, I engaged my backup plan. Saw she got back on the SA site 3. 5 hrs after our meet time, However, she did not contact me. So, I know she is just malicious (versus something coming up).
So, avoid the worthless time waster.
SouthernJohn.I just left this girl. I will admit we had a couple of hiccups getting together. It's tough communicating with her because her phone isn't working and she can't get it working until she gets some cash. Honestly, though, I had to cancel out on her kind of at the last minute myself but she was ok about it and gave me another opportunity and as things have ended up I'm glad she did. I had read this review of her last night and knowing that we had a date this morning. Well, I nearly backed out. She sent me a message on sa early this morning to confirm with me though and so I felt like I should give it another try. She looks just like her pictures, maybe even a little better and without a hint of make up on. She has a great personality. Talks all the time. Seems like a very genuine person. She said she used to tend bar and as a former bar owner, I bet she was a great bartender. Very personable and attractive. We had a very nice, very intimate time together. I loved her body and her responsiveness to me. She felt like someone I had known for a long time and we had a really great time together. I didn't ask her about southernjohn's experience and won't because everyone is different and as they say on here, your results may vary from mine. I just think that no matter how thin you make a pancake, there's two sides to it. Just like there is to every story. I'm going to see this lady again so it really won't bother me if nobody else sees her and stretches out the great fit we had but I just thought I'd let you know that she really does get together. Although, obviously, not always.
Been texting with this lady and about to meet her.
Anyone have any info. On her? Great pics and talks a great game.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ec80bf1c/view?conversation-sent
SouthernJohn
04-17-15, 18:51
I just left this girl. I will admit we had a couple of hiccups getting together. It's tough communicating with her because her phone isn't working and she can't get it working until she gets some cash. Honestly, though, I had to cancel out on her kind of at the last minute myself but she was ok about it and gave me another opportunity and as things have ended up I'm glad she did. I had read this review of her last night and knowing that we had a date this morning. Well, I nearly backed out. She sent me a message on sa early this morning to confirm with me though and so I felt like I should give it another try. She looks just like her pictures, maybe even a little better and without a hint of make up on. She has a great personality. Talks all the time. Seems like a very genuine person. She said she used to tend bar and as a former bar owner, I bet she was a great bartender. Very personable and attractive. We had a very nice, very intimate time together. I loved her body and her responsiveness to me. She felt like someone I had known for a long time and we had a really great time together. I didn't ask her about southernjohn's experience and won't because everyone is different and as they say on here, your results may vary from mine. I just think that no matter how thin you make a pancake, there's two sides to it. Just like there is to every story. I'm going to see this lady again so it really won't bother me if nobody else sees her and stretches out the great fit we had but I just thought I'd let you know that she really does get together. Although, obviously, not always.I'm glad you had a good time with her, even with the communications issues. I hope you enjoy yourself and have no issues scheduling future visits with her.
I have no desire to see a lady that wastes my time and acts as if it's not an issue. Many of us are successful because we don't put up with trifling irresponsibility, including in the sugar bowl. I'm a forgiving person and I know things come up. However, in neither case did she take responsibility for her no shows. Even if the personal time is "off the charts", I know I could never count on someone like that. I don't need, nor want that in my life. I'm too busy to chase ghosts. There are plenty of responsible ladies on SA (along with game players, thieves, druggies, etc.) and I seek these gems out. When I find ladies that have major issues (that might be of interest to others) while I'm searching for "keepers", I report them here.
So, with the info in this forum, we get to make our choices. Thanks to all of you that contribute. We are all better for it.
SouthernJohn
04-17-15, 19:09
Southern John,
You are correct to always have a back-up plan and I feel your pain on the no shows, but have some patience with these girls. I will tell you about one of my experiences.
I started texting a girl in Nashville and we agreed to meet for Lunch when I was in town for Business. Well she cancelled. No biggie as I was in town for Business.
A few weeks later we started texting again. We would set up meetings and she cancelled twice (her coming to me). I figured she was fake and running a scam.
She always notified me and kept in touch and since she was coming to me she wasn't wasting much of my time.
Well, after three times we finally hook up and it was the best sex I've ever had.
We start off with some DFK, get naked and turns out she is a freak. She licks my balls, gives me a rimjob and then lets me stick it in her ass and then lets me cum on her face. Felt like a pornstar LOL.
I had pretty much given up on this girl, but I never burned any bridges. With girls of this age you got to have alot of patience and a backup plan. There are some good ones on SA.com.With years of SD experience, I have come to understand that, in general, the younger girls need to be handled with more patience. They tend to be more irresponsible and scattered. If you are looking for a hot young girl and are willing to engage in dealing with the baggage that comes with it, then rock on. My time is more valuable to me than hooking up with a hot young girl. For that reason, I typically gravitate to women that have their stuff together (jobs, cell phones that work, no drugs, life responsibilities). I've had great success with women that are 30's /40's, look awesome (face & body), and know how to please a man. Occasionally, I'll interact with younger ladies, but I'm quick to cut it off if I see irresponsibility, dependency issues, or immaturity. Stereotypically, established ladies aren't looking for the same things in an arrangement that the younger ones are. I like the "no drama" scenarios that come with established women. But, we each "hunt" different "prey" in the sugar bowl because that's what makes us happy. So, for all of you out there trying, hope you bag your limit!
MilfMan865
04-17-15, 19:10
Been texting with this lady and about to meet her.
Anyone have any info. On her? Great pics and talks a great game.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ec80bf1c/view?conversation-sentBeware. She has some documented mental issues that you need to be aware of. Since you only have two posts at the time of this reply, I will spare the details. Just ask her to show you her wrists and inspect them carefully.
Be careful,
Milfman.
AsianBuffet
04-21-15, 08:58
After receiving 15 emails that I could not access, I decided to bite the bullet and upgrade my membership. So far I am having mixed results. I had a girl from Mississippi put a hard sob story on me about her water bill and needing formula for the baby, my response. I don't wire money. Haven't heard back from her. I have put my number out to a few girls, no contact yet. I will remain vigilant, and patient. Stand by for updates.
A big waste of time and money.
A big waste of time and money.I hooked up with her. She is borderline homeless right now and her phone is busted saw it with my own eyes. She is hot a little bustier than her pics. She needs a little sun on her legs and the fake eyelashes are a little much. Her initials are DC. She does seem to be trying to get paid w / o playing but she is pretty broke right now. I used your review against her when she contacted me. I didn't tell her about this board but said I had a buddy that she squeezed and I had no time for that. I told her I play then pay. She was fine with that.
After receiving 15 emails that I could not access, I decided to bite the bullet and upgrade my membership. So far I am having mixed results. I had a girl from Mississippi put a hard sob story on me about her water bill and needing formula for the baby, my response. I don't wire money. Haven't heard back from her. I have put my number out to a few girls, no contact yet. I will remain vigilant, and patient. Stand by for updates.I can pass on several that you might have some luck with. I have some numbers I haven't even been able to hook up with because of logistics.
I hooked up with her. She is borderline homeless right now and her phone is busted saw it with my own eyes. She is hot a little bustier than her pics. She needs a little sun on her legs and the fake eyelashes are a little much. Her initials are DC. She does seem to be trying to get paid w / o playing but she is pretty broke right now. I used your review against her when she contacted me. I didn't tell her about this board but said I had a buddy that she squeezed and I had no time for that. I told her I play then pay. She was fine with that.Just out of curiosity, can I ask how much you ended up agreeing on? Reason I ask is that about 7-8 month back, she seemed like total GPS and I passed. She was asking like 7 k / month or something like that. And this wasn't based on some crazy request, I just asked her what her financial expectations were for meeting once a week to have some fun. Hers was pretty much the highest request I ever heard.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ec56d00e/view?conversation-inbox
Too much baggage.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ec56d00e/view?conversation-inbox
Too much baggage.I second that one. She called me in the middle of the night last night. When she got no answer, she started texting. Sounds like enough baggage to fill up a 747.
Appearance wise they are exact opposites. This one is horribly skinny. After I saw her this morning I just asked if she'd give me a BJ in the car. No problem she said. Pretty good head really.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e442b48d/view?search-recently-active
This one. Well, she's not skinny. Nice big tits but looks maybe 40 pounds over what I expected from seeing her in her profile pic. Met with her this afternoon and again I just opted for a BJ in the car. She gave very good head.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/efe5b4d6/view?search-recently-active
All in all it wasn't a bad day. Two different BBBJ's and back home by 4. 150 for the pair. I wouldn't recommend them for more than that but what they did for me was good.
AsianBuffet
04-23-15, 19:26
Appearance wise they are exact opposites. This one is horribly skinny. After I saw her this morning I just asked if she'd give me a BJ in the car. No problem she said. Pretty good head really.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e442b48d/view?search-recently-active
This one. Well, she's not skinny. Nice big tits but looks maybe 40 pounds over what I expected from seeing her in her profile pic. Met with her this afternoon and again I just opted for a BJ in the car. She gave very good head.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/efe5b4d6/view?search-recently-active
All in all it wasn't a bad day. Two different BBBJ's and back home by 4. 150 for the pair. I wouldn't recommend them for more than that but what they did for me was good.Been talking with Elizabeth too. She says she's been a personal trainer? I'm guessing that was a few years ago. LOL.
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