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Went to the VIP Spa on Milwaukee. Sorta weird set up. You walk in and it is like a nail and hair salon but if you go around to the back there are massage rooms. Mamasan says "Ahhhh, long time now see". I had never been there so i just go along with it and say "yes it is." $80 for hour, use coupon and it is $60. Go to sauna first. Then girl takes me to body shower. Her name is "Kim", 27 years old, Korean. Smallish breasts. Just average face and thin. Speaks poor English (don't they all?) and had trouble understanding some of the things I was saying. Saw some of the other girls there and I think there were a total of 3. One a little better looking than mine. The other one not so attractive and lucky I did not get her. All of the girls wear a leotard top and black spandex bottoms and wear a pink skirt over the spandex bottoms. They look sorta like ballerinas. A little weird. There are no doors on the rooms, just curtains. Are open on top about a foot from the ceiling. There were about 8 rooms. In the sauna, the windows are open to the outside and I was able to see another customer walk by. I did not like that I was able to see another customer. They should put curtains over it. They play music which is some '60's oldies music. After the shower went back to the room. Girl asks what kind of massage. Gives it for very short time. Turns me over. I try to get her to take off her top. I offer her very, very good tip if she takes it off. She refuses. Says "no no no". Apparently all they offer here is hand job and can only touch them over their leotards. I am not too into hand jobs being that I can give one to myself and don't need to pay for it. I was looking for some more intimate contact. At this place you can't get it. I guess there are no AMP's in the Chicago area outside of the one in Indiana (Peking) where you can get more than just a handshake? In most other cities across America you can get anything for the right price at AMP's. What is the deal with Chicago AMP's?
A couple of things to post today:
1. For those with no car needing a "sure thing" the AS place that advertises in CAD has a skokie apartment about 2 blocks east of the terminal for the skokie swift (yellow line) that connects at Howard Street with the Red Line to downtown/North Side.
2. Stupid me-- fell for it early friday morning about 5:30 am.
Was walking on Clark near Huron when a BSW come up and asks do I want a BJ. Willing to demonstrate. Takes me to alley, asks for 20. I fork it over, then she starts. When I am done she runs off. I find the rest of my dough is gone. Dammit!.
Warning signs.
-Aggressive posture, not usual careful approach of most SWs.
-Wearing pants and running shoes for quick getaway.
-Pressed against side where she saw me take out my cash.
Man, I did not know what was up until she was gone.
Anyway, at least it was not my wallet and credit cards and only my "fun cash" .
Bothan Spy
09-21-03, 02:00
I cruised out between North and Armitage around Kedzie and met Sonia, lsw. On my scale, I give her at least a 7. I mistook her for a wsw as she had very fair skin. We chitchatted for awhile as we drove around. She told me right off, 20 for cbj. I agreed and she went to work.
Afterwards, I was driving her back and she wanted to stop and get something at the QuickStop, so we stopped there and I gave her 10 bucks to go get what she needed. This girl was so sweet, she came back and tried to give me the change back. I will definitely go visit her again.
My first experience with a sw was certainly positive.
SPY
JohnnyBeBad
09-21-03, 13:32
T F John-Hey guy,you got to learn one of the first lessons when picking up street walkers. Leave ALL valuables in the trunk of your car and only have on you what you intend to spend. ALWAYS have an extra set of car keys somewhere on your person. I always have what I want to spend plus a few extra in case the service warrants a tip. If your doing a motel date, take them far away from where you pick them up. I like using the various JC motels(Miami on Cicero,Palos on Harlem,or Countryside on Joliet Rd.)
JohnnyBeBad
09-21-03, 13:35
And now for a short report. Cicero Ave. between Madison and Harrison was jumping this Sat.morn.at 6am. I counted 7 ladies out and I hooked up with "Duana" a bs/w who I've seen before. Outstanding BBJ for a measley 20. So satisfied I dropped an extra 5 on her.
I cruised out between North and Armitage around Kedzie and met Sonia, lsw. On my scale, I give her at least a 7. I mistook her for a wsw as she had very fair skin. We chitchatted for awhile as we drove around. She told me right off, 20 for cbj. I agreed and she went to work.
Afterwards, I was driving her back and she wanted to stop and get something at the QuickStop, so we stopped there and I gave her 10 bucks to go get what she needed. This girl was so sweet, she came back and tried to give me the change back. I will definitely go visit her again.
My first experience with a sw was certainly positive.
SPY
Spy,
Congrats on your first foray into the hobby. What time of day did you find her? I don't know if you did or not, but its a good idea to try and get contact information on a girl you had a positive experience with. And if you feel like sharing that info, I'm sure more than a few of us horndogs would appreciate it.
Thanks,
Zoomie
Bothan Spy
09-23-03, 00:49
Re: My first Foray
I met her around midnight. I actually met her the night before, but she was a bit hopped up so I didn't pursue it. I went back and met her the next night and she remembered me and hopped in my car. We drove around for awhile just chitchatting. If she wasn't an sw, I easily could have mistaken her for any one of my friends. In other words, educated with a substance abuse problem.
She has no contact info, but she took mine. Maybe she'll call, maybe she won't. I scoped after 3 am.
SPY
Finally tried the Bakery on Milwaukee. It was about a month ago but I have been away. Can't remeber her name but she was very hesitant about letting me in and wanted to know who sent me. Finally she did. She wouldn't take her clothes off in the shower. The massage table(?) had this electrified rolling thing under it and was very uncomfortable. She was very pretty and pleasant once she loosened up and ended with a handshake. I think more will be available if you become a regular. The door fee was $80 so I didn't tip. I don't know what the additional charge might be but it could get up there to equal what youo'd pay for a decent escort. I'll probably try it one more time.
HappyGardener
09-23-03, 22:15
Spy:
You had the good fortune to meet Sonia, who is one of the good ones. She is actually Jewish, is from the Northern Suburbs, and got a taste of the streets and got hooked on herion. She now lives around Kimball and Armitage. She doesn't have any contact info, but can be found inthat area afternoons and nights.
She is educated and articulate, and has a pretty bad problem. Watch out for needle marks and hope that she isn't sharing the needles. BTW, she gives a great massage as well.
"In other words, educated with a substance abuse problem " Oh is that a nice way of saying shes a crackhead or a dopefiend, Or a crackhead/ dopefiend that can chat on your level. lol. Stay safe, strap up .
Lady
Superman8272
09-24-03, 01:42
Where can I get CAD magazine? I checked the places they listed where I can go, but no magazines there. Anyone know where I can go pick one up? How often do they come out?
i am about to travel up to chicago, it's there a MP with russian
women, cam you inform me please, thanks
Lonely,
Check the Evanston/Skokie board for EMP's. There are none actually in Chicago that I'm aware of.
Superman,
You probably hit these places between issues of CAD. It comes out once a month and usually comes out about a week before the beginning of the month. Check out any Lion Video location, and you should find a copy in the adult video room.
Chicago Ron
09-25-03, 10:34
Hello everyone. This is my first post. I really enjoy this forum, keep up the great work.
I guess that timing is key. I saw multiple SW's within the last week:
On 9/23 I spotted one on Addison, heading East near Lincoln Ave. WSW, very good looking, had that pretty smile. Gave me the signal and stopped but I couldn't stop, was already late and didn't have change with me. Darn!
On 9/19 I saw another WSW getting off the expressway on Irving Park Road off of 90/94. She was another good looker, but again I couldn't stop.
Hope that my luck changes. Good luck to you all. Be safe.
Hi Guys,
Okay heres the line up for 47th street , who has see the black girl ( light skinned ) kinda skinny , but with a big stomach and a bad blond wig , is she in the early stages of pregnancy or what? I saw her yesterday at 47th and pulaski, she is really young looking and actually looks kinda innocent but shes been out there long enough so i know shes a sw . Also on 47th around kedvale is the brunette sw about 35 kinda chunky and matronly looking with the unkempt eyebrows , she looks like someones mom. And I also saw a good looking blond near that two jays restaurant . Well thats all for now. its feast or faminie with the girls its like i see alot or none . Stay safe , strap up
Lady
Member #2944
09-25-03, 23:38
My experience with EMP's are that they are all eastern european, mostly russian, lithuanian, etc.
Most of the women I've had for outcall have been older > 35. I've even had a 50 year old woman from siberia show up. Needless to say, she was strong and gave a hell of a massage.
However, my preference is to younger women < 35. Anyone know EMP's where this can be had?
I don't find this to be a problem at AMP's.
Chester,
The only EMPs that I know of that have girls in that age range are Five Star/Hollywood Massage and Absolute Express. If you're looking for one that offers FS, then it's down to Five Star/Hollywood Massage. Absolute has the youngest and best looking of any of the EMPs that I've seen, but the most you can hope for is a clothed handshake. I can do that myself, and it doesn't cost me a penny.
Ynot,
Where is Five Star/Hollywood located? I've been wanting to try an EMP but I prefer a high percentage FS place.
Johnny Rocket
09-26-03, 17:06
Where's Five/Star Hollywood? Is there another board I should check out for it? How much for FS?
I've been banging so many typical AMP girls lately I've been Jonesing for a good old fashioned whitey. :)
Johnny and Bill,
Hollywood Massage and Five Star Massage are both European massage services that operate out of apartments/condos in Rolling Meadows and Wheeling respectively. Unfortunately, they have not been advertising anywhere that I've seen lately.
Member #2944
09-28-03, 03:40
Thanks for the leads. Those locations are way out of the way for me. Heck, skokie is out of the way for me. I guess I'll stick with the outcall middle aged women for now.
Cicero ave has been the hot spot again in my cruises. Tues night counted 15 girls at various times between Armitage and Addison. There were 5 girls working Wrightwood alone. One must have been very hot as all I ever saw was her ass climbing into cars. Three times I tried to get a good look at her and thats all I saw. Wed night only about five girls out. Sat night saw nothing, but all my cruising is done from 7:30PM till 9:30 PM. Did hit 47th during the day and saw two girls who looked willing. Both around Kedzie.
Be safe,
Bill
Does anyone have a phone # for Five Star in Wheeling?
Thanks
JohnnyBeBad
09-28-03, 11:56
You must have hit it right Bill. I was on 47th on Fri around noon. Absolutely nothing between Cicero And Pulaski,except for a backup by the underpass at Knox where they are doing some work. I finally did hit it luck though. I cruised Cermak just west of Kedzie,an area that I haven't been through for a long time. Picked up a hs/w named "ANNA". Nice firm body with a big set of tits. BBBJ for 25 .Wish I had time for a motel cause she would have been worth it. Hope to see her again,but no number.
GrantBurger
09-28-03, 19:30
The north ave girls are still around. My buddy and I were hanging out by the clubs in the weed st. area, and there were SW'S everywhere, mostly BSW, saw a few WSW, and one who was either hispanic or thai. The pimps are in the area and do follow closely to what their girls are doing. The pimps are obvious with nice looking cars, custom paint jobs, and spinner rims. On weed st. they hang out on the N. side of the st. by the cars, across the street from Circus. They can sneak behind the cars really quick when LE comes through. Additionally they walk a circle that involves going past VIPS, taking a left and going down that street, I believe Fremont, and then taking another left, they follow that circle. Eventhough the place is VERY crowded, they were in and outta cars quickly. Unfortunately we weren't able to talk to any of the ladies, as they all thought my friend and I were pimps. LOL, we were dressed nicely, but we couldn't talk to any female SW, or regular. They saw us posted up on the corner and thought we were watchin our stable, lol. Oh well. Good luck!!
Sugar Daddy D
09-29-03, 00:15
Howdy All.
Long time reader, first time posting. I just returned from a trip to Puerto Rico and after looking at all the fine, "Ya Ya", walking on the beaches I was more than primed to do some cruising for a BJ when I got back. I checked out Fulton west of Ashland where I've picked up some pretty decent BSW's in the past, but all I found was an old Whoopee Goldberg look alike, and a crazy crackhead who stood in the middle of Damen Ave and wouldn't let me pass by so I rolled down my window and was going to talk to her. She was twitchy and spacey but as horny as I was, I almost went for it. Hey, a cheap BJ from a crackhead can be alright. But then I caught a whiff of her and figured if I can smell her from the street imagine what it would be like in the car, so I hit the gas and passed on by.
Next I cruised the 47th street route. I saw one blonde haired trailer trash looking WSW dressed in dirty jeans and a flannel shirt, talking to someone in a pickup. She turned around and had a face that gives coyote ugly a new meaning. A few blocks up, I saw another Blonde WSW, dressed a bit nicer but didn't get a real good look at her face. I was in the mood for some Latina or Black Ya Ya, so I passed her by. I finally got to Cicero Ave. and saw a BSW that made me question if she was a he! Took a pass on that, so I started thinking maybe the second blonde would do. Too late! When I got back to where she was, she was leaning down talking to LE!
My next cruise was south on Western Ave. Nothing!
Now in the past, I've sometimes gotten lucky from 63rd to 87th on Ashland. All BSW's , and some can be pretty nasty, but I've had a few that looked pretty decent and swallowed... my kinda girls! So I thought I would try that.
I was getting pretty desperate as I even thought about going back up north for the twitchy smelly crackhead, (just kidding). I saw several big boned BSW's but nothing that fit the bill. Finally I see this tiny little BSW with a fine ass. I wasn't even sure if she was working cause she never gave me "the look", but thought I'll drive by slow... bingo!
Her name is Patricia and although her face isn't anything to write about, I won't be seeing it as she'll be bobbing for apples soon. Twenty for a BBBJ, works for me. She tells me to go to a parking lot that she knows of, and although I'm a bit skeptical about going there, something tells me it was cool. We get there and it's hidden away from view and seems safe. She starts to work as I play with her ass. Now I've got this thing for fine ass, if it's not nasty, I'm all about burying my face into it and licking it! Patricia's ass definitely smells nice, so for another five dollars, I turn her around and lick her ass and pussy for awhile and then she finishes me off with one of the most explosive O's I've had in a long time! She ended up choking and coughing and told me I came too much, yeah, heh heh, works for me babe! She made me take her phone number and promise to call her, I guess she likes getting her ass licked. Not bad for twentyfive dollars, cheap ass that I am, I didn't even tip her, the fiver that I gave her to lick her ass was her tip. Definitely "Bootyliscious"!
I agree, Cicero has picked up since Labor day. Counted over a dozen around 9-10 pm on Saturday night, between Belmont down to Roosevelt. Especially near North Ave. Nice conentrated area to shop around. I guess since they can wear jackets now its a little harder to spot a definite sw, but they still let us know in their own subtle ways, :-).
Happy Hunting all,
Philster
Hey Fellas,
I too saw the white sw on 47th, Damn Sugar Daddy aren't you afraid of going around the world with a sw you don't even know, All I can say is I'm glad you dont come home to kiss me! LOL Hope your not married because if your wife only knew you were so friendly and brave you may be in trouble, and by brave I mean not afraid of micro -organisms that could be lurking around that sw's dung hole, lmao, but hey I can't knock it cause I,ve never tried it. My question is how many of you fellas could be so brave on a first visit? Just wondering!
Stay safe, strap up.
Lady
Turbo Trader
09-29-03, 17:41
Stopped by the Apple Spa Monday afternoon. Small place, three massage rooms + sauna and shower. Doors for privacy. Tammy peeks through the hallway curtain window to check you out, then the mamasan points to the price list on the wall and lets you in. Her office is a mattress in a room off the entrance. $.7 to the mamasan for the 45 minute session with Tammy. Tammy was the only one working and I was the only customer.
Tammy likes to give a hard massage -- sauna, shower and room. Frisky part was in the shower, pulled down her top and let me check the ripeness of the grapefruit. Firm, a decent boob job with quite the nipples. Told me since this was my first time, HJ only with a good backdoor cleaning. Promised more next time. $.3 tip. More grapefruit testing and hugs when leaving. I liked Tammy, but then I like them all. Told me she does not have a boyfriend.
TurboTrader
Member #2944
09-29-03, 17:43
"I'm all about burying my face into it and licking it!"
Hey man, to each his own. But licking a SW's bunghole? ewww!
Your post seemed more like Penthouse letters than a real post, but hey, the more posts the better.
LOL
What the Hell!
Decided not to go to Rockford and instead went to Lakeview Wholistic Center. What a mistake! Talk to the chick on the phone - she was extremely paranoid (for good reason I guess). My big mistake, I told her I had never been there but a friend had told me about it (a lie). Even gave her a name. Made an appointment for 6 o'clock.
Man I was looking forward to something new!. I get there, no one answers....what the f! So I call information, get the number and call them from outside the front door (Under Lakeview Wellness Center by the way under 411). They answer. She says OK they'll come get me. I hang up, no one does. I call again, now the ***** is saying that the two girls have left early! Damn getting ganked like that pisses me off!
So what's the story. As far as I'm concerned, I'm boycotting that crap. But I've read other post about the chicks being hot as hell! What do you guys suggest?
Peace
Goo
Sugar Daddy D
09-29-03, 21:46
Hey Chester.
It's just like fish, you have to take a whiff to make sure it's fresh first before you dig in, heh heh!
What can I say, I'm all about being nasty! It's too bad I'm not married anymore, I'd love to go home and give my ex old lady a big old kiss after an adventure like that. After all the crap she gave me, I'd love to give some back!
Sorry I got a little long winded on that last post. It's all true though... every stinking detail, heh heh.
Happy times!
Sugar Daddy D
The following takes place
between 9:30 p.m to 11:30 p.m ...
On sunday, I was driving on Cicero avenue near Archer and met Diane. She is slender, about 5'7" and has auburn hair & dark brown eyes. Diane is a veteran wsw who is not easy on the eyes but she speaks slow wonderful french.
The Midway area IS hot so be careful. LE is not only patrolling but also parking and watching from the side streets & alleys.
Play safe, Happy hunting
Seldon69,
For the Asian apartment location in Norridge, go to the CAD website and look for "Young Beautiful Chinese Girls Massage."
Hey guys.
Well after getting ganked over at Lakeview Wholistic Center - I decided to go to a place I always have enjoyed, and also a place that doesn't seem to get too many mentions up on this board: A+ Massage Therapy.
Awesome. I was there late, so I could only get a half hour session. But always great. Had a session with Nikki - a fine, fine black girl. Super slim and hard body. Perfect freaking ass - and I mean PERFECT! Plus more then willing to get a little freaky. Great HS and posing of her hot body. Why did I waste my time chasing down that Lakeview crap?!?
This place is great. Very mellow attitude. FS can be had by some, but I think by only the minority of the girls. The time I had it, it was offered to me as opposed to me asking for it. Yesterday was my 5th time, so they have definitely come to know me a bit better.
Just remember, you need an appointment first - can't just show up. From what I understand, they will only service 1 guy at a time at their incall location. They also have outcall if you want it. Except for one busty white/middle eastern woman, the staff is all black.
I'm craving some of that latina booty! I can't believe in a town like Chicago, it's so hard to come by. Any suggestions?
Keep on groovin'
Goo
Let me just say usually the average client has more balls than a regular joe schmoo but theirs a line between adventurous and a suicide mission , Youve all heard of the " dirty sanchez " well we will have to come up with a name for this one like " the brave brown noser" lmao. stay safe strap up.
Lady
The following takes place on 9/29 between 2-3am:
I was cruisung North avenue and Armitage between Western and central Park. I saw only a few heavy BSW and a few crack head WSW mainly on North.
Finally I saw a nice oreo mix with a good body and young decent face. She was about 23 years old and wasn't quite sure if she was working. Anway she claims to be the BJ queen and she was damn good at the BBBJ for .25. I didn't get contact info but she has a little chip in her front tooth-not noticeable from the street.
Hey guys, long time lurker, infrequent poster. I just don't see the point in saying "was out on Cicero Ave. tonight, saw one BSW and a cracked out WSW one 47th, but they weren't worth picking up." We all know that this is what you'll find out there 90% of the time, so why say it over and over again. I can honestly say, 90% of the time I'm trolling, I don't pick anything up. I'm just out there looking for that diamond in the rough.
Anyway, tonight was definitely NOT the typical night. Depending on how you look at it, I was either extremely lucky or very unlucky.
So, I was cruising 47th on the usual track, Cicero to Western and back, around 7:00 p.m. on Tuesday night. Between 7 and 8 all that was out was "one BSW and a cracked out WSW on 47th, but they weren't worth picking up."
But then on my way back towards Western for the 4th time, there is this fine WSW on the corner of 47th and Springfield, one block east of Pulaski. I'm going too fast to make the turn, so I go up to the next corner to cut thru the alley. Well, some asshole in front of me can't wait to get to her, so he pulls a u-turn in the middle of 47th and beats me to her. So I decided to wait and see if she gets in. She walks to the drivers side window and immediately alarm bells are going off. The next thing I see is her hand above the car roof waving frantically and five seconds later, the poor SOB is surrounded by unmarked cars and a paddy wagon.
Obviously, he wasn't a WSG member, because we all know the golden rule: Never discuss business until she is in the car and your driving away. So I'm feeling pretty confident knowing I'm smarter than that dumb, non-WSG member, a-whole-hell-of-alot-poorer, SOB
But that's not what I'm here to warn you about, because most likely, that sting will be gone by the time most of you guys read this.
As I'm thinking that this will probably scare any of the real sw's away, I see this young thing walking right by the bust on 47th, and I say to myself, "Self, your too smart to get caught up in any of these stings, you've been doing this a long time, and damn it, you deserve to get your dick sucked tonight that young thing."
So I head east on 47th to get another look, and yep, my first instinct was right, this is one fine young lady. So I go a couple of blocks east, make sure I've made eye contact and turn south on Hamlin, and hope against hope that she's working. She makes the turn on Hamlin, gives me a glance, but keeps walking. Well, I'm not about to give up that easily.
I do the slow drive by again, making sure she sees me looking at her and pull into a parking a spot at 48th and Hamlin, well off of the main drag. Sure enough, she walks up and asks if I'm 5-0. "Hell no," I say, "hop in and I'll give you a ride." So she does, and I'm smiling from ear to ear, because she has got to be a 9 on the SW scale. She tells me her name, but I wasn't really paying attention.
As I'm driving away, she's saying how she's really paranoid because of that bust and the we should go back to her place. Normally, I'm out hear just looking for a blow job. I'm not interested in getting intimate with ANY sw's and would have shot that down without thinking twice, but I was too wired up with everything that had happened in the past 5 minutes, and damn it, I deserve this. So, what the hell, she looks good, doesn't look like she's high, says she lives alone with her sister and had her own room on the second floor.
We get to her house on Lawndale, it's a two story, with yellow siding and the numbers 5128 on the front. We walk in and there's a crack head eating Doritos in the living room and supposedly her sister is upstairs in one of the bedrooms with a customer of her own. We go into the other bedroom and talk for about 10 minutes, about how this is her mom's house and she has 6 brothers and sisters and she's the baby of the family, blah, blah, blah.
Anyway, she goes downstairs a couple of times, one time for a pillow then again to get a condom. Then she says she needs to give her sister 20 bucks to get her out of the house, so I'm like "what the fuck, I'm in her bedroom, and maybe if we get rid of her, we can spend a little extra time together."
You guessed it, she goes downstairs and I never see her again. This short, fat-ass dude comes up and says "You gotta go!!" Well, I'm thinking I've just lost 20 bucks, but I've still got 150 in my wallet and he's not asking for that, so I'll cut my loses and get the fuck out!!!
Has anyone else run into this little heist? I think she said her name was Christine, but she could have just made that up. She said she was 23, but looked more like 18. She had some acne covered up with make-up on her face. She was about 5'6" 110 lbs, light brown, shoulder length hair. And she must have done the sign of the cross 4-5 times.
BTW, if anyone happens to stop by a yellow two story house on Lawndale, can you ask for my 20 bucks back!?!? In all seriousness guys, this happened to a veteran hobbyist, so be careful out there, this can happen to you too.
Later,
Lancer
Lancer,
Damn thats bad to hear, I guess her and the guy that told you to go are in on that together which really sucks they have probably done that to other guys before, whats bad is she probably actually lives in that house, but thinks her badass boyfriend will protect her thing is she is going to run into the wrong guy one day or she may do it so much and so often that she will forget every face and get picked up by the same guy twice not remembering she ripped him off before, I'm willing to bet you will see her again and she wont remember you. Its pretty obvious that they are young because a more seasoned person would never pull a stunt like that what it appears to be is shes holding off the enevitable which is her actually having to give some poor guy a blowjob for cash..lol . A person like that will never have anything good happen to her and you can bet if shes getting high with the money (of course she is) she is probably extra paranoid thinking that the tricks she robbed are going to get her ass, lmao, Dont worry Lancer people like her will do their own self in everytime, unfortunatley its girls like her that give the decent ones a bad name. Hope your luck is better next time.
Stay safe, strap up.
Lady
So I'm reading this post with the guy describing a house on lawndale, yellow, two stories. And I'm thinking to myself, "whoa!! what the hell is this guy doing?" So then I read on and see why and start to chuckle.
Sorry for your loss Lancer, but I hear where you're coming from. I'm normally very very cautious when out crusing for SW's. But I recall, on more than several occassions, throwing caution to the wind when I see a young hottie. Sometimes when the blood flows to the penis, our brains are denied the oxygen we need to think logically.
Lancer,
I don't believe your post. A veteran hobbyist would never carry his wallet on him or go to a location/home suggested by a sw he just met. Hmmm ... Why would you post an EXACT home address? You must have a non-hobby problem with this homeowner.
For those that care, most stings have taken place on:
47th & Francisco ave
47th & Keating ave
50th & Cicero ave
My source? Chicago Police Department web site.
Truthful, fair and balanced reporting brought to you
by Devlin
Devlin,
You've been hear a long time, and I respect your opinion. I too read the CPD website, and your right, I've never seen a sting at that corner either. But I assure you, I'll be vindicated on the web site in a few short weeks.
As for why I brought my wallet in, I only had enough cash in my front pocket for a bj in the front seat, and needed some extra for what she was offering upstairs, so I just grabbed the whole thing from my hiding place rather than count it out in the car. Like I said, she wasn't your typical crack head and I was feeling lucky.
Whether anyone believes this or not isn't the point. I'm sure everyone takes what they see here with a grain a salt. And I'm not saying, don't pick up this young lady if you see her, after all, she was very charming. Hell, I'd probably pick her if I see her again, but I sure as hell won't be going back to that yellow two story on Lawndale!!!
And that's the point of my earlier post. Even if you don't believe it, if someone offers to take you back to their house on 51st and Lawndale, your going to remember this post, her little heist will be foiled and she's going to have to earn that 20 bucks. After all, isn't this why we're all here?? To share information.
"You must have a non-hobby problem with this homeowner"
Come on now, if I really had a problem with a homeowner, what's the point of posting information here where a few hundred hobbyists are going to see it?? I can think of few other places, with whole lot more visibility, to take out some vengence on a bad neighbor.
Well, to each their own.
Lancer
Hey all!
I actually appreciate these stories of being scammed - you learn a few things. I usually stick to the massage parlors, but I've been toying with picking up a SW. Hell the price seems to be right! So I'll share one of my scam stories (happened to me 3 times).
When I was in St. Louis I would call the Lava Life chatline. Tons of chicks on there looking to play for pay. I've called the Chicago line, and it seems to be the same.
Well, I talk to one lady - she describes herself (late 30s, $.5, black). Her man is out of town and I should come over. So my horny ass is in the car and there!
I walk in to her house. Typical ghetto home, but not horrible. We sit at the kitchen table, and chat a bit. She's wearing a nighty. I give her the cash.
Suddenly, who should happen to walk in the door - her husband and her nephew! Suprize, suprize. He's all like "What's going on here? What the hell?" What a coincidence, her nephew just happened to be carrying a baseball bat (to this day this punk is what pisses me off the most - he was all dressed up like a 16 year old wannabe 2pac talking smack).
I immediately knew it was a scam. While they were all huffing and puffing, I stood up, grabbed my jacket and got the hell out! And by the way, I never reported it to the cops. Figured it wasn't worth the trouble of leaving an anonymous tip (or ruining my best source for ladies).
So one lesson I live by - if a chick says anything about having a boyfriend, or husband that aren't around so it's cool to "come on over" - I immediately see that as a red flag!
Ahh, but it's all part of the game right?
Happy Hunting!
Goo
Member #2944
10-01-03, 17:16
I believe Lancer. I've had something very similar happen to me.
HappyGardener
10-01-03, 17:52
I believe him too. I have lost my wallet and a wad a cash a couple of times.
Lancer
Consider yourself to have gotten of cheap. A few years ago I visiting this girl to get a bj. I went over to her apt complex, but I was unsure what apt she lived in. I went to the apt and there was a couple of black gangbang looking type hanging out. They told me that Denise lived there. We were just getting started and someone knocks on the door. I told Denise not to answer the door. One of they guys walked in and pulled a knife and wanted my wallet. Well luckily I knew the girl quite well and she started yelling for the cops. At that point the dudes took off. She then finished bj and I gave her a very messy facial:))
There always is the potential risk of getting robbed if you go to someones place. If there is no one else around then I will stay. Otherwise I will bail. But if the girl calls someone else on her cell phone then don't go there.
Member #6131
10-02-03, 10:44
Cruised the Maywood area on Madison between 5th and 19th. Thought I'd try something different from the Spa scene. Picked up bsw got bbbjtc for .2 that definately fits my budget. I was not to picky as I wanted to hit and run since this is only my second time when it comes to sw's.
HappyGardener
10-02-03, 11:34
Devlin you are getting weirder and weirder. Sometimes I think your ego and your paranoia gets in the way of your logic.
The guy was doing us a favor by telling us of a ripoff situation. Can we take it on face value or do you have to distrust any new posters info?
A few weeks ago, I was driving down 47th on my way home. I had no intention of looking or picking anyone up, so my phone was in the front seat, my wallett in my pocket, cash in my front pocket, briefcase in the back seat.
But then coming out of the diner on 47th and California was Paula, a tall WSW (that Devlin has posted about) and a friend of hers carrying their dinner.
I cruised around the block, pulled over and talked to both of them. They were headed back to their house on Western and I offered a ride. I asked her friend to put the briefcase in the hatchback part of the Yugo and I gave them both a ride. AS I was driving, Paula fondled me and gave me head. My wallet was still in my pocket as was the cash. I just didn't have time to move it. And you know what: She left it alone. Yes, a veteran hobbyist can make the mistake of carrying ihis wallet around. When we got to her place, I walked into her apt with wallet, cash and phone, I left with everything except the $20 I gave her for her services.
I am not going to repeat stories that i have told before about getting ripped off. I have had similar scenerios happen to me that have happened to him.
It is a reminder to all of us to watch our backside when we are with an SW.
Hey Chester,
On the subject of rimming would you rim Rebecca if you could? (assume she was just nicely scrubbed and not after a bunch of guys had been with her.)
Hey have you heard from her lately . . .
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Member #2944
10-02-03, 15:58
I think Rebecca is out of the business. She gave her cell phone # to an escort service and is no where to be found. I don't know anyone who has seen her lately.
Would I rim her? FUCK NO. Just not my thing....
I had some time on my hand this Thursday afternoon, until I saw a young girl walking down 47th street by the Osco at Pulaski. First i thought a sting? then I got her attention parked and she walked right into the car. Very blow bbbj. and she was wnt as wild as I like. Ans she wasent as skinny. Her name was Kelly. she was normal size but I like them like pickiesticks. She had to be under 20. and thats what I paid too. I have her number I will see if it works first them I will give it to whoever wants it.
P.S. I'm down with the Lancer! I for one, with many others, thank you for your post. As stated b4 this is an informational board not a "who has the bigger mouth" forum.
P.S. Anyone remember this girl she was visiting from Florida her name was yvette. Anyone have any more info?
Member #2944
10-02-03, 20:50
As far as I know, I've never heard of a daytime sting for prostitution, but you never know....
Lord Vader
10-02-03, 21:00
Hello to everyone,
I've been checking out this site for some time now, and just got up the nerve to post. I hope I follow the rules right , and I'm sure as time goes on I'll get better at my post's .
Well anyway , like I stated , I've been watching the post for some time now and I really appreciate a site like this , as I tend to brake for sw's myself its good to know the info here. alot of times I've read some post and know exactly what and who you guys are talking about.
Well anyway anyway, I usually survey the sw sceen between 47th and Western to Cicero , Cicero to Archer . Last week , braked for a blond wsw named Teresa (about a 5-6)on 47th east of Pulaski . Not a good experience . For .2 (wants more )she will rush your bbj and no catch . Not good at all.
Stopped close to the dollar store and gas station on Cicero spoke with a cute blond who I've seen in that area for 4-5 days now. Name was jessica (about a 8 to me , on the sw scale). I did'nt have the buck and half she desired , come to think of it I did'nt have any $ that night , She was very nice after I declined , and I still ended up with a contact number.
In the past I've met some real good lookers and got a couple of contact numbers , should have posted back then , but I've gotton rid of those numbers now , thinking I would see them again. maybe ?
Thats all for now folks, happy hunting!
HappyGardener
10-02-03, 22:56
As posted by Devlin in July of last year:
Devlin
Senior Member
Posts: 168
07-01-02
Everyone, this weekend, i heard good news... i am going to be a father so I am retiring from this risky hobby. THANK YOU Jackson for this forum, it's been great. i want to wish everyone good health and prosperity. please be careful. PLAY SAFE, Happy Hunting
=====================================
Well that's great Devlin, didn’t stay out too long did you? How many of your co-workers on the loading dock did it take to think of all the lines from “A Few Good Men”? Devlin the cliche’ artist is more like it.
You know what I just realized? How is it Devlin seems to know all about the stings? He is always bringing up police and LE in his posts. Maybe HE IS the Police. Yeah, me thinks he does protest too much. Maybe it is a subliminal message to us to stay away from 47th st. Maybe he is president of his block club or a member of CAPS.
But you know what Devlin? You made me realize that I really don’t want to waste my time and energy sparring with you. You are right, I have not been posting many of my experiences here. It just doesn’t seem to be the highest priority for me at this point in my life. So your wish will be granted
I think I should take a break from the board. After all, if one doesn’t contribute, one should not expect to reap the benefits.
Thanks to all who have made this an exciting ride. Thanks for reading my posts and making me a part of your community.
JohnSmi108
10-02-03, 23:06
Speaking of Rebecca, I just happen to be passing through North today at around 2pm when I saw a hot looking blonde wearing a black outfit, leather coat and sunglasses. She was walking east past the Citgo. I remember last year or so that Rebecca worked around that time. But on closer inspection, it wasn't Rebecca and this girl was't so hot looking. She looked to be 10 years older and weather beaten face.
Lancer, I once picked up a very nice looking white sw named Susie or something. I gave her a $20 for a BJ, which I couldnt complete. So she offered me more in her house garage if I'd run some errands with her including getting some drugs and then picking up some keys from a "relative" near Belmont/Central, where she promptly snuck away. No big loss and a lesson learned.
BTW, thanks Chester for Mary's new number!
stay safe and keep warm, John Smith
GrantBurger
10-02-03, 23:49
I was starting to think these Cicero Ave. posts were B.S. as I haven't seen anything that didn't resemble the typical crack hoe you normally see that look like aunt jemima. Anyway, I saw a wsw, just south of Fullerton on Cicero. She was tall and blond, and she was actually pretty!! She's 30 years old, and goes by the name "ghetto barbie" but when she called her pimp, she said her name was Diane. Gave me a BBBJTC and spit the ending, for $20 and 2 pieces of gum, lol. She had real nice titties too, prolly a small B. I kinda have a contact num. it's her "man's" number. She called him from my cell phone. NAW, I didn't do a dumb move...I dialed the number and held it to her ear while she talked, she wasn't about to leave my car with a souvenier. That's all for now!!
Lancer and guys,
The scam of a ho getting a guy to come around and then scaring him off or pretending to " bust " them in the act or telling him to leave is a time honored old pimps and hoes trick . They usually pull that shit at a hotel when they know they can move or switch rooms thus the angry "trick" can retaliate. They definetly plan it before they evn meet you, anither one is the girl picks up the "trick" and tells him "I usually dont do this " then her " boyfriend" catches you two, and whisks her off with your money. And they laugh about it all the way to the dope house , I know its true because I have heard hoes with my own ears plan that type of bullshit . The thing that was so stupid was they used their own house or some one elses. maybe they just didnt know any better. Either way posting the address was a good heads up and cant hurt either way . I have had "tricks" I didnt like or couldnt stand and have thought about it myself, but could never cheat someone like that, besides its better to walk around freely instead of looking over your shoulder for some guy you robbed , its just not good karma, what comes around goes around , trust me.
Stay Safe, Strap up.
Lady
Here's a little FYI for all,
A+ Massage has finally updated their website to include pictures of four new girls. Besides the two remaining girls, Suzie and Rhonda, there's now Brigette, Latonya, Lexi and Nikki. Check it out: www.aplusmassagetherapy.com.
Devlin, you need to relax! Your aggressive attitude doesn't benefit anyone. I for one agree wholeheartedly with HG's sentiments. If your attitude alienates HG, then we all lose. He is one of the most valuable posters on this or any board.
Cruised 47th on Tues. early afternoon and saw a couple of crackheads that didn't interest me. One I've talked to before near Western and have seen her many times but always passed. She's hispanic and a big girl with big tits short hair and an adam's apple. Don't know for sure if she's a he, but when I talked to her she had a real deep voice...watch out!
I was about to give up when I saw a cut blonde on cicero and 49th. Big curly blonde hair, cute face, nice tits, but a big ass. I turned off Cicero to wait for her as she walked over, but there were 3 cars with guys in each parked right there and there was also this guy on a bike 1/4 block down that made me real nervous, so I drove off. Circled back to look for her again, but she was gone.
Shortly after, I saw a really hot wsw with long straght black hair, tall, mid 20's and a killer body. She was dressed in tight jeans and had a smokin' ass! Pulled off on 49th again, only to have some guy pull right behind me at the last second and scoop her up. I kept looking for her for the next hour, but to no avail. I'll keep looking for her as she was one hot gal.
mwm
ynot,
Thanks for posting the A+ update. I was wondering if this place was still open.
Do you, or anyone else, have any reviews of the current line up?
I remember that Rhonda was good for possible extra's and Suzie was not. But how how the other ladies? Brigette, Latonya, Lexi and Nikki. Any reports out there?
Some of them look a bit too masculine for me. It would be great to read a recent trip report. It has been a while since A+ was on this board.
Hey Flashman, I've got some very recent updates. One I'm sure will be posted soon. It was with Nikki and happened like a week ago.
They have moved from the upstairs apartment to the downstairs apartment. Still the same flavor.
I have had two sessions with Nikki. Awesome, she is model fine. Her body is rock hard. I can't believe she's had a kid! HJ. Tip for an hour was .6.
Had one session with Suzie (my first visit there). She was fun, but nothing outrageous. Very nice though and a great handshake. She let me indulge my foot fetish. Wouldn't take off her stretch pants though which was a major bummer. She basically said she was holding out to save some for my next visit.
I had one session with either LaTonya or Lexi. Can't tell based on the pictures. I'm leaning towards LaTonya. Either way it was wild! She came right in and asked "What you want?" And I came up to her grabbed her ass and said "I'm looking to get freaky". Blamo! For the rest of the hour, CBJ, FS, dirty talk and foot play all went down. The tip was .8.
I get the impression that all of these girls will do anything - especially if they know you. Nikki's behavior between my first and second visit was much friendlier. They can be a bit greedy in terms of asking for money. But worth it in my opinion.
Overall a very friendly place. Hmmm, maybe I should stop by tonight? Hehehe!
Have a good weekend fellas! Much debauchary to all!
Goo
Member #2944
10-03-03, 18:23
I am friends with Devlin and HappyG (online) and they BOTH provide very good information. Both have gotten me laid with hot women, etc.
Let's give this pissing contest a rest, and focus on the pussy.
Lookin4action
10-03-03, 18:56
I noticed that there are some posters here that frequent the Mannheim/Melrose Park bars as I do. Carl's seems to be rocking after midnight especially on Friday and Saturday nights and there are definitely extras available with the right girls. Has anyone been with a black girl named Ebony who works at Carl's and Playpen? She is around 6 feet tall. She told me that I can have everything for $170 for the hour and she had a nice body but I passed because it looked like she has been around. She let me finger her during my dances though.
At One Step Beyond, I know several girls with my favorites being Traci, Tonya and Angie. Has anyone ever gotten extras from any of the girls here? Tonya, a Puerto Rican girl, is hot as hell and I wouldn't mind getting with her. Email me at s_mel76@yahoo.com if you have any stories or good information on any girls around the Melrose Park/Maywood area.
Flash,
I do not have any recent reviews of A+. My one and only time there was last winter and I saw Danielle. She was a very pretty black girl and gave great FS. Unfortunately, she was murdered shortly thereafter. The drive is bad enough for me, and their parking sucks. If I didn't have to deal with one or the other, I might try them again. Let us know if you check them out and if it's worth it for me to try them again.
You have heard of the "bad hair day ". Well here's a "bad ho day ". This was on October 3rd at about 5:30pm at Archer and 47th street BP Amoco.
Stay safe, strap up.
Lady
GrantBurger
10-04-03, 01:58
I was driving through brookfield tonight, and there were a ton of wsw out by the motels there on Ogden Ave. Be careful, LE was on some of them, but that was on the brookfield side. No LE present in Lyons.
Ynot,
OK, I think I will return to A+ and see what's up. It might not be for a few weeks, but I will post.
Devlin/HG
Our senior member #1 has spoken and I respect his views. Time to bury the hatchet? Where are the babes?
flashman/Ynot -
I've never had a decent session at A+. Most I got from Suzie was topless HR, and Lexi was a major disappointment. I looked for Lexi because someone had posted rave reviews about her, but IMHO, I can find better looking bsw's on the street even though I'm not a street lurker. For the same price I'd definitely prefer AMP's or Lakeview Holistic.
Devlin -
Chill' out. HG has provided valuable info to all the members. We should respect his opinion...
What was up with yesterday. Is it just too cold? I cruised two seperate times. 1st 47th Street at 7 PM or so and nothing. Then 2 AM on North and up to Armitage and only on HSW on Armitage. She looked pretty good but got scooped up immediately.
This takes place on Oct 4th around 12:45pm on 47th street right past the post office on troy. The hair gets a 2 in my opinion. She was out there for a while because I went back again about 15 min later and she was still there.
Stay safe strap up.
Lady
Member #2944
10-05-03, 06:38
Was bored and couldn't sleep so I took a cruise around 3:30 AM until 5:00 AM. Drove around the Rush / Dearborn stroll and only one ugly BSW. I was shocked. Drove by the new southern cruise (by the rock and roll mcdonalds, excalibur) and saw a light skinned BSW who was absolutely gorgeous. Great body, great face. Was willing to try, but got caught up in traffic (was on ontario, heading towards the 90/94 feeder). By the time I navigated the one way streets, etc. She was getting picked up by a few guys in a green explorer. C'est la vie.
Drove north avenue by kingsbury and saw just two bsw's, so fat you could cut bacon off their asses. Drove further west on North to Western, nothing.
Maybe it was the cold, or maybe the cops kept sweeping the area. I did see quite a few paddy wagons trolling around.
I've been working phone #'s that my friends give me and that I have had relationships for a while. (not real relationships, the temporary kind) It's been pretty good, but once in a while it's refreshing to see what kind of talent is out there.
Peace out.
Chester
Squat,
Thanks for the review of A+. I gave it a pass.
Stopped in again at the Bakery. New talent by the name of Lynsie.
Overall pretty good time. 7 on the scale for appearance, and performance.
Anna still there, but out of service with a foot injury. That's OK with me, as she is not one of my favorites
I was out Friday cruised around a while before I hit two clubs Smart Bar was great that evening. Hornier after the clubs I cruised around by the clubs near Weed, Fremont, Kingsbury. All sorts of talent around though a bit spooky in the car since these areas are known for stings and with a lot of people around one could never make a hasty exit.
After cruising arouind for a while a parked and decided to walk aound a bit. Fortunately I ran into a nice white tall brunette SW who I dated before, young, firm tits, nice ass and tight about a 9 even on the non-sw scale 150 for 1/2 and 1/2 in the car. She probably would have been the same for a hotel, but I didn't have the time or extra cash.
Also while I was crusing saw a smoking Asian girl standing by an empty parking space and seemed to give me the look. Looked like she was working, but wall to wall traffic is not a situation in which I would ever pick a girl up or even ask her if she's dating. When I was on foot she was no longer there. Other areas North from the fway west to Kedzie, Armitage from Cicero to Western dead except for the occasional crack SW.
Also was on Belmont but hte talent up there seems to be men - some you need to take a second look to see if they are women but they are men.
Hi,
I am new to this part of the forum, but post for whereever I travel. Now I was in Chicago last week for 2 days on business and decided to try out some of the strolls. Unfortunately, the only thing I found was a COP. This was on 47th and about 2 blocks east of Cicero. She lloked really good, like about an 8 on the non SW scale. I was leary because I had spotted an unmarked cop a half an hour earlier there on a previous cruiseby.
Here is the deal. I pulled around the corner and parked, she looked around for about 20 seconds and then walked up to my car on the drivers side and stood slightly behind my window. Hmmmm, I thought, she walks up to a car just like a cop. I roll down my window and say hi, she asks if I am looking for some play for pay? What the hell I thought, so I respond with, ' no are you looking for a ride?" We wheel this conversation around the block a few times and then I say "Hey, you don't need a ride so I'm going to leave." and I drive away.
I've been a monger for several years in places where the cops are serious Nazi's and have the laws to back them up {Portland OR for example] and if they don't get in and don't do the body part exchange before asking the cop question, they are probably a sting. If they don't get in the car they are a cop. count on it.
Bottom line, if you are not sure, then DO NOT talk either sex or cash with them. No conversations until they are in the car and you have driven several blocks and made several turns to check for a tail.
I saw nothing else that I would even consider tapping the brakes for.
Play it safe guys. No BJ or FS is worth going to jail for.
Wolf
The following takes place
between 9:00 p.m - 11:00 p.m ...
On friday, I had the pleasure of meeting Tracy on 47th street near Harding. She is an accommodating, attractive wsw, about 5'7", slender with short blonde hair & hazel eyes.
For a sw, Tracy smells nice and dresses well. Her french lesson keeps getting better and for twenty bones, it's a hell of a deal!
Play safe, Happy hunting
From Grantburger...10/4
"I was driving through brookfield tonight, and there were a ton of wsw out by the motels there on Ogden Ave. Be careful, LE was on some of them, but that was on the brookfield side. No LE present in Lyons."
WOW, I've been cruising Joliet Rd lately after hearing reports of the same, but haven't seen anything. Where exactly on ogden and how late was it? You can e mail me if you like, thanks
mwmchicago@safe-mail.net
About the bakery - you never know who or what you get
It was always $1 for hj - now they always want $1.2 -
This time I saw koko - nice petite body - soft skin - very attractive and very affectionate - probably the best I've ever seen there - no problem taking all her clothes off
Last time - I saw Rose - must have been a couple of weeks ago.
She always has something on under her dress - and never wants to expose anything. Hadnt seen her for a long time - said she had been away for three months.
Someone mentioned linzy(sp?) - as new - If its the same one - and it seems to be from the description - she was there before also - I know I saw her in August. She was more forthcoming than Rose - was easy to lose her clothes and feel - mostly pleasing to the eye - but not as nice as Koko.
I have a little bit of change of pace for this board. I was staying downtown on Friday afternoon and was having a dream about enjoying the company of a nice young lady. I had logged onto www.craigslist.org and tried the erotic section of Chicago. I found an ad for a young lady and she wrote me back and then called and we set up a time.
On the phone she told me if I was looking for a model type then she wasn't my type, but I tend to enjoy a lady with a few curves.
She showed up and was much more attractive than I anticipated. About 5'10" and a healthy girl next door look with a measure of class thown in for good company.
She really is a college coed and I enjoyed the conversation as she gave me a very acceptable FBSM. I doubt if F/S is available, but I throughly enjoyed my time in her company and will contact her again on my next trip.
Her email is rubbydubme@yahoo.com and I don't have a phone number. Seems like I dreamn't the donation was about $1.50, but she didn't watch the clock.....
JohnnyBeBad
10-07-03, 10:29
MWM-I saw the same post and I must admit somewhat confused. I've lived and hung out in this area(Brookfield,Lyons) for decades and have seen just a handful of s/w's over the years. I even go back to Michael's Magic Touch,Club Algiers,and French's 75 era and during all that time saw relatively few s/w's in this area. The motels along Ogden are sure ripe for this activity,but for some reason s/w's don't frequent this area. If you see this Grant,what time were all these ladies out? I've been through this area during all times and have never seen a ton of s/w's here. As for Joliet Rd.,same thing. I drive through there often and use the J.C.motel from time to time and have never seen s/w's either
This morning on the way to work, I was boxed out from the 294 on ramp on Cicero around 127th ( past ) and turned around in the Motel just past the 294 interchange ( D-lux motel) and saw a WSW working the lot. Blonde about 5'7" red outfit and barefoot, which led me to believe she is staying at the motel. I didn't test her out, but I would say she was a 5-6 on the SW scale, I was on the way to work and didn't want to be late.
This was about 6:15 this morning.
Bammbamm
Lord Vader
10-07-03, 20:12
Hey,
Today (12p.m.) I was driving around the Archer / Cicero area , and while looping blocks ran into a very attracive brown/dark hair wsw named lisa.Very clean , maybe a 7-8 on looks (I don't want to overate , but to me she was a 9) She said she only works one hour a day, different times. Today was my lucky day! Picked a spot , and got the best , and I mean the best bbjtc & swallow! She was really, really good. Set me back .4 but I think it was worth it . She even gave me a contact number but where the f@$% did I put it . Damn.
GrantBurger
10-08-03, 00:25
Well, DAMN!! I tried to get on this site last night, but couldn't!! I was on Cicero, S. of 290 and saw 2 FINE looking BSW's and considered stopping...however when you passed under the bridge there was a cop car was parked by that chain link fence. Coulda been a sting, might not have. A wierd night for sure since I saw several cop cars that appeared empty on the west side, including that one. Occasionally you find a sw or two that find there way into cicero I have been seeing that a bit lately. Now...for joliet Rd. in countryside, I guess I need to keep my mouth shut about that. LE definately reads this site, and every time I report a sighting, the next night you see the Cook County Sherrif's squad car behind the hotel. Technically that area is unincorporated Cook County. About the brookfield situation, I think I was there about midnight. My friend and I were taking side streets to work our way into the city that night to go mess with some of the working girls by weed, fremont, and kingsbury. The past several weekends we have seen BSW's there that we grew up with, lol. That night, I missed a few, I wasn't even expecting to see any on Ogden Ave. My buddy brought to my attention a few of them. When all was said and done, we saw about 10 WSW in that area. Just a heads up on that.
I know a while back I said I gave up picking up sw's but I was just out for a cruise with no intention of picking up a sw. On Monday morning 5:00 to 7:00 AM went down Cicero from Addison to North saw two wsw at Dickens and Cicero went around the block and both were getting into a van, Damn those one way streets it takes so much time to go around.
Went down to North & Cicero saw nothing and then went east on North at Grand by the McDonalds saw a prsw black hair which hangs over her face. Not bad about a 5-6 on the sw scale really nice tits about 5'6" not fat but good curves. She has a real Puerto Rican accent and it was difficult to understand her. She asked were I lived and I told her NW suburbs then I thought she said do you live in a condo and I answered no an apartment. She said no do you want to use a condom? If not I have one, anyway we did the deed cbj for $30.00 she wanted $40.00.
No contact info but she is out in the morning between 5:00 & 7:00AM. at Grand & North.
hey grantburger can you email me some more detail about ogden my add. is chigod7@excite.com I have some info about stuff too. We can trade???
Hey guys, I've got a question about SWs in general.
I usually hit up the massage parlors and what not. The reason being equal parts safety and equal parts comfort.
But from what you guys are posting, the price for SWs is right on. I mean each time you to a parlor, it's a hefty bite out of the pocketbook! The problem is I have to have comfort - I can't get off sitting in a car or something. And that SW that bigguy590 describes sounds perfect for a relaxed session at a shitty hotel.
So here is my question. What is the protocol with taking SWs back to hotels/back to your place? Do they charge more money? Are they not down with doing this? Is it dangerous/stupid to do? I've read in past posts of stories involving this, but I suspect it's only certain ho's in certain areas.
Thanks for any thoughts and info on the subject!
Goo
Lord Vader,
How tall was she? Her bod? Her ethnicity?
I ask these questions because late last week, when I was on the prowl near 47th & Lawndale, I saw a very attractive "new" sw.
This young gal was short, slender with perky tits, and had shoulder length dark hair. Her ass was smokin' in tight jeans! I was going to make contact but was late to another hobbyist.
Hopefully, she will soon become another notch on my steering wheel.
JohnnyBeBad
10-08-03, 18:23
Grant-I'll be more observant next time I fly through Brookfield. In fact,after tonights game I'll check it out on the way home.Probably around midnight.I'll give Joliet a closer look too. It is just that I've used J.C.so many times but never saw anything that looked like a s/w to me around there. Anyway,this afternoon,I grabbed a short bs/w on Pulaski just south of Roosevelt.Excellent BBBJ for a measley 20.
Lord Vader
10-08-03, 18:42
Hey D,
She was a WSW, maybe 5'6" - 5'8"? (wearing heels ). At first as I was making the block, I didn't think she was a walker, she was walking too fast (maybe in a hurry to get back to cicero), but she also looked good in her jeans (not too tight, but showed a really nice ass). She had also stated that le had stopped her not to hassel but to tell her to be available for one of them. Well anyway I also found the contact number, yes!
Chief_Wiggum
10-09-03, 20:04
Hey Grantburger, what area was that again? Sorry, I can't tell by your descriptions.
My TR - went end of month to the Gold Coast (Dearborn) (was out drinking in that area). More fine black gold :) I saw this one girl, didn't get her name (forgot, sorry, I was hammered), and got a BBBJ in my car for $40 (including tip). She wanted like $100 or something like that. I told her that i didn't want sex b/c I didn't have a place, and I thought a BJ would help me drive home more sober. She said I was cute. I got to feel her up all over, but she didn't take her time at all. We parked like 1/2 mi from pick up and I didn't get hassled by all those pimps (wannabes?) in that area. I totally didn't think about them until after I drove home, which was 2 hrs after I dropped her off and went to get something to eat. I made it home sober all right.
GrantBurger
10-10-03, 00:41
what area is it that you want me to clarify!? Also, it seems like there is a nice new stroll that has developed in the river north area, near the rock and roll mcdonalds, etc. can anyone else provide info on it? is it heavily patrolled by the pimps? I do know that the other stroll, weed, fremont, kingsbury is heavily patrolled by the same 4-5 pimps and you see the same girls. Any info would be much appreciated, as I do need to be at work very early on sun. morning, f%#*(N 5 am, :( Oh yeah, I work right on the corner of Sheffield and North ave in that strip mall. Tonight when leaving work, I saw a WSW wearing a shirt that said "Got Dick?" standing at the exit of the parking lot on Sheffield. Never saw her before, and she might not know that the area she was in was shut down long ago and she is a target for LE, oh well. She was pretty hot though, blond hair and bangin body. Too bad she was out in front of my JOB!! lol, imagine how that woulda went down if one of my coworkers saw that, lol.
GrantBurger
10-10-03, 00:44
Awww....Jesus, how could I forget!! I also saw some decent lookin BSW's on Madison believe it or not, near the projects. Also, SW's are poppin up in Cicero more often now, saw a couple near the hotel on 16th and Cicero, which IS an area they like to do stings in, however, no LE around what so ever!!
naturalrookie
10-10-03, 11:56
Hello all
I have been working near Ohio and Dearborn the last couple weeks and I have seen good looking sw's five or six times early in the morning usually walking near the Mcdonalds. Last night at 9:00 good looking wsw North and Cicero 5'6 brown trashy hair jeans white sweater mabye 30.
off the topic - the reason for not writing the last few months is my girlfriend found out about my "other email address" and i come home one day to hear her screaming about "naturalrookie" and "why are these guys emailing you about girls" and what is "wsg" luckily she never found the board but she was smart enough to get a new password for my email account and check my messages of which a couple were from hobbiests. There was really no way of getting out of that one but I was able to convince her it was about internet porn and everything was in relation to photos of girls. I guess the idea of prostitutes seems so outlandish to a nice girl that she never really caught on.
Anyway I have been very infrequently hobbying since.
The following took place last night from 10-11:30
I hit the 47th steet spot and saw nothing. Looked on Cicero but only one ugly BSW who was waving at people.
Next headed near home North Ave just West of Damen before Western and saw a WSW 6-7 25-28 years old in looks but a nice rack. I picked her up and she wanted .5 for CBJ. I gave her .2 and it was good for CBJ. She wanted me to take her to her place after that and I could have anything I wanted for .8. I kindly told her I was tired and dropped her off. Not bad service.
You should have told her you were talking about Paulie Girl beer, like those stupid commercials.
Thats a tuough situation, but why you should keep an email address that only YOU know the PW of.
I use Virgilio.it, Italian Email baby !
hush mail is another good freebie that needs a pass phrase instead of just a word or digit group. Harder to guess something like that. UN : Naturalrookie: PW: Ilovetochasewswsandgetbbbjsonafridaynight
Good luck guessing at something like that.
Hope it all works out.
Bamm
Naturalrookie,
Gotta clean out the history, cache, etc. every time you look at the e-mail. That way there is no trail for her to follow. Same with this forum. In Windows, you do it under tools, internet options. However, you also do to explore in the start menu and make sure that history, temporary internet files, and temporary internet files under temp are empty in your documents and settings.
At least that's how it is on mine. I don't know how it works for Macs, which is why I never check any of this from Macs.
The problem with this is that you wipe out ALL of the history, including hers. That could get her attention. Tough situation.
Naturalrookie,
Rotten luck there dude. I don't know how I'd have tap danced my way out of that situation.
One email solution you might want to explore is to get a unix shell account with freeshell.org. The basic account will get you a unix shell/email/webserver space for a lifetime cost of $1. Using its email from the unix shell will leave no relics for your girlfriend to find. You can log in from any computer with telnet or ssh.
good luck
Natural rookie,
How lucky you are to have such a "turn the blind eye "gal . But thats why you picked her right? Of course to most average wives, you are right, the thought of their husband with a prostutue is so foriegn to them. Thats the very reason that prostitution has flourished so well , because most women are taught to believe he would nevber be with street trash, when he has some decent clean pussy from me. What they dont understand is the illict attraction and the thrill of the hunt, pussy is pussy, but taboo pussy is pretty good.
Stay safe strap up.
Lady
George W. Bush
10-10-03, 21:14
You should be able to use your login name, then hit the link 'forgot my password' or someting similar, and get it e-mailed to you. It would be interesting to see what she changed it to.
Natural Rookie,
A technique I use is to use a totally different browser for ...adult browsing....
Chances are, the girlfriend ain't gonna use anything but explorer. So you use opera or mozilla or netscape or whatever, and dont put a link to it on your desktop.
That way, even if you forget to erase your cookies and cache, she probably still wont find it.
--
Da Yat
The following takes
between 11:30 p.m - 2:30 a.m ...
On friday, I was driving on Archer avenue near Lamon and met Stephanie. She is a veteran wsw who works on the north & southwest sides.
Stephanie has an attractive trailer park look. She is about 5'7", slender and has shoulder length wavy blonde hair. Thirty bones got me a very good french lesson.
She had me at ..."I will earn a tip".
Play safe, Happy hunting
Dogg Pound Raided.
2 Saturdays ago I had the misfortune to go to the 'Dogg Pound' for my first time.
I was a very interesting place, and I had a couple of lap dances, and was thinking of checking out the VIP rooms when.....
About 50 of Chicago's LEO's came running up the stairs and I found myself, along with every other guy there kneeling with my hands on my head untill they ran our licenses, and those without warrents were issued tickets for:
Chicago ordinance 8-8-90 "Patron of a House of Prostitution"
I have to go to court on this. Only a fine, but it isn't something I really want on my record.
Oh well. It looked like a great place, but it's gone now
Happy Hunting
Northside
DaYat,
I used to do the same thing...netscape. I may go back to that. It always worked well. Not familiar with Opera or Mozilla.
JohnnyBeBad
10-12-03, 13:19
I took a few spins through Brookfield down Ogden Ave. in the last two days(mid & late evening)and didn't even see a anything that looked like a s/w anywhere,including around the motels. Sat.morning around 5am I did pick up a bs/w on 63rd right at Archer. Said her name was April(I've picked up a few of those over the years)and we ended up in the industrial area off of Harlem and just north of 63rd. Dished out a nice BBBJ for 20 and actually wanted me to take her to a motel for further activity,but alas,I had no time.
Philster,
Just moved from Memphis to DFW and saw your report on the Dallas page. Would like to have info on Hope. Please post here.
Thanks
Picked up a bsw who goes by the name of Diane near Cicero/290 at around 4PM Saturday. This chick has a very hot body, I would say probably an 8 or 9 on the SW scale. The service however was very poor. We negotiated on .2 for BJ and I told her I would give her a tip if she does a good job. Well the BJ was about 10%BJ/90%HJ, I had to keep on telling her to stop with the HJ and go back to the BJ. I would recomend against using her, she has a weird type of burn on one of her ears and a very hot (firm) body. She did let me roam all over her smoking body, but the service was very poor.
Northside,
Get a lawyer. The city will probably drop the charges as soon as you get before the judge if you have representation. Make sure your lawyer talks to the Corporation Counsel (city lawyer) before you get into the court room. That ticket is to deter you and others from going to places like that. However, it is almost certainly not convictable.
Well worth a couple of hundred dollars to keep this off your record.
Does anyone remember a WSW who used to frequent the Armitage/Pulaski area named Diane? She was a blonde, with her name tatooed across her neck. Does anyone know if she's back to working?
The reason I ask is earlier this evening around 7:30pm, I saw a possible WSW standing and talking with a guy on a corner a couple blocks west of Pulaski on Armitage. I went down a sidestreet to circle around and get a better look. By the time I doubled back, she was gone.
Anyway, she had her back turned to me so I couldn't be sure if it actually was Diane, but she bore striking similarities. She was about the same height as Diane. She had the same hair and dressed in the same fashion as Diane. Diane's manner of dress isn't typical of the girls I usually see on Armitage. I remember that Diane looked like she actually makes an effort to make her hair look nice and carefully chooses what she's gonna wear for her night's work. Her manner of dress seemed in sharp contrast to the rest of the pedestrians on Armitage. The girl I saw tonight stuck out like a sore thumb...and I always noticed that about Diane. Hopefully its her.
I remember back this past winter, there was mention here on the board that she was wanted for questioning by the police. Anyone know the status of that?
thanks,
Zoomie
P.S. Diane gives enthusiastic BBBJTC's, but you have to put up with her constant small talk. She's friendly but she never shuts up!!!
Hey Dog, man you are lucky indeed to live there. Whenever I get to go to my corporate office I'm always in the best of moods, and my Senior Management team honestly believes its due to my being such a team player and happy to see them. Yeah...Right!!!, lol. Anyways, Hope's number is 214-783-5564.
Have fun and let me know if you opt for the two girl action with her Extremely hot and young blonde friend.
Later,
Philster
Zoomie,
I know the Diane you speak of, and I am certain that so do a few veteran posters here, although as for her clothing, I have seen her 3 days into a crack binge and wearing some dity jeans and a baseball shirt (I think it was cubbies). Also her face was very greasy and appeared to be pock marked with deep pitted acne scars. And yes she is very chatty, I think its fueled by her drug usage. She was living last year on Springfield and Chicago ave, she also at that time had a black pimp named Mo Sconey, but we know that the real pimp is really the dope man. I heard some good reviews about her, but knowing of her street life I wasnt to impressed, but hey thats one persons opinion.
Stay safe strap up.
Lady
FortWayneDude
10-13-03, 07:52
Chicago Dudes,
I need some help.
Being in Fort Wayne we have no street action AT ALL. Indy is so hit & miss so I want to drive to chicago to check out the street action.
Can any of you give me places to go?
Actually addresses or hundred blocks of the streets would be great and much appreciated.
I prefere WSW but am not that picky either way.
Thanks :-)
Call Me Goo,
In regard to your 10/08/03 post ..
I would first get a no-tel room before hitting the strolls because you can enjoy the hunt knowing you don't have to find a safe spot if you find your "pretty woman".
Luckily, on the southwestside, there are a few no-tels on Cicero and Ogden avenue(s). The room usually cost about $40 for 4 hrs (you must have a valid ID). Most of the sw's that I have encountered usually charge the same amount for a room quickie as they would for car service.
Unless you already have a good rapport with a sw never go to a spot/room they suggest, this will prevent you from being carjacked or robbed. Also for your peace of mind & anonymity NEVER tell a sw where you live or use your given name.
Devlin
Member #6131
10-13-03, 13:20
Devlin,
Are there any no-tels in Maywood and do these no-tels have names you can share including the ones on Cicero? Then again maybe that would not be good to post.
Bath
Bath,
Sorry, I don't know the Maywood area but some no-tels can be found on:
1. Cicero avenue from 45th to Archer avenue.
2. Cicero avenue just south of Ford City Mall.
3. Ogden avenue around Harlem.
I hope this helps.
Bath,
There a couple on Washington between Cicero and Pulaski, they are around $25 for a few hours. The area is not the greatest though so I would be careful if you have a nice car. I usually try to find a spot right in front of the hotels.
GrantBurger
10-13-03, 18:21
First off, yeah that was probably diane, I got with her about a week ago, you are right, will give a BBBJTC, but she talks a lot. about maywood, I know ALL about maywood, not a single hotel, however the closest one would probably be in hillside on roosevelt and wolf for a 4 hr. nap, watch out though, that's the hotel they always use to nab pedophiles that come into town to meet their "victims" and also they do frequent drug busts there. Other than that there is a hotel in Broadview on roosevelt, however I forget the name!! Other than that you gotta go to Melrose Park or Stone Park on Mannheim.
Member #2944
10-13-03, 18:47
Anyone seen Victoria lately (on 47th usually), she goes by Secret. She's about 5'3, huge d cup breasts (natural) alittle chubby, etc.?
Also, anyone seen Rebecca lately? She used to work on North and Rush streets.
Lord Vader
10-13-03, 20:41
To those of you who hunt in the south Cicero area , any of you have any knowledge on a two girl team ( black girl and white girl )south of 47th before archer. I've seen them a couple of times walking together ( although one is walking a few steps ahead of the other) . I've seen them in the mid-day time . They look good enough from a far to pull over , but I haven't really gotten a good look up close . Do they work together ? What's the price ? Come on team , let's get the info !
P.S. Heard about Da Dogg Pound , whats next?
Ms Lady,
I guess I must have been lucky to only catch Diane on her good days. I've been with her three times, each with her being cleaned up and didn't seem to be jittery like your average crack ho. She was extremely chatty each time. Yikes, that would be scary to listen to her make small talk while on one of her crack binges.
You're right on with the address last year. I remember vividly dropping her off there. I remember her telling me she lived there with a couple black guys and there was no heat in the house. This was in the middle of a really bad cold snap.
When was the last time you ran into her or heard word of her current status? I don't particularily care to hook up with her, if she's in the condition you assert. I'm just curious.
Zoomie
P.S. I look forward to your posts with pictures. I find them interesting and amusing. And keep up the good work...its nice to have a woman's point of view in here.
JohnnyBeBad
10-13-03, 22:08
Near Maywood-In addition to the no-tell on Roosevelt & Wolf in Hillside,there is one on Roosevelt Rd.at about 13 Ave. Not sure if it is Maywood or Broadview.In Cicero at Roosevelt you have the Shamrock and at 16th the Karavan. I wouldn't use either. Dirty and used daily by many hookers,pimps,boyfriends,local losers,etc. If you are going to motel date with a decent s/w,take the ride to one of the JC motels. JC Miami at 93rd & Cicero,JC Palos at Harlem & SW Highway,or the best-JC Countryside on Joliet Rd.about a mile east of LaGrange Rd.There is also another short stay on Joliet Rd.about a mile east of First Ave.on the north side of the street.The name escapes me for now.STAY AWAY from the motels on Washington on the west side unless you feel like getting jacked or worse.
JohnnyBeBad
10-13-03, 22:11
Almost forgot. There is the President Motel on Harlem at 41st and another motel on Ogden just west of Harlem. I've used both in the past but not recently.
Member #2944
10-13-03, 22:15
Remember guys, that a crack binge only lasts for minutes. You can smoke 100 crack rocks and in a few minutes the high will be gone. (not speaking from personal experience)
Of course, it can make someone agitated, restless, etc. That's probably what you guys are referring to.
I'm single and I often bring girls home with me. I live in a building with security, so I don't worry about them coming back to rob me. Moreover, I never have them come directly to my house, I meet them in the area and then drive them. I haven't had any problems in many years of doing this. HOWEVER....
I have had girls that I knew for a long time, and had a "good rapport" with, rip me off or steal something from me. These girls change, get new pimps, etc. I don't live close to any no-tell mo-tells, I take that back - the ones by me don't rent by the hour and cost $100 bucks for the night. (Ohio house, etc.)
If a girl has a room there, I'll go. Lots of hookers that work the Rush Street area stay at the Ohio House or the HoJo just up the street.
So now, I'm very careful who I bring home, and if I do, they aren't alone for even a second, except in the bathroom. I obviously don't keep any valuables in the bathroom.
I got a room at the Shamrock like 7 years ago and they kicked me out after they saw me bring a SW to the room. I thought it was a joke, but they really kicked me out, threatened to call the cops, etc.
Ms Lady,
I'm thinking you should have Senior member status by now. Are you aware that one must specifically request an upgrade from regular member status? Anyway, there is a specific forum where you make your request for ugrade. There's a link one the menu items to the left. Current senior members can comment on that same forum, for or against your upgrade. However, I'm sure no one here would be against it. I'm sure a few of the guys here find your input to be of value and would support your upgrade.
Zoomie
GrantBurger
10-14-03, 02:34
You know what, this kinda been bouncin in my head lately, and I think about it every time I pass it. In the polish part of town on 55th near Harlem, there is this motel, it's pink, has 4 hr. nap, adult movies, and water beds and I think hot tubs. I think that's what they advertise from there sign. Why aren't there any sw's near there!? Unless that's a good spot to pick up the SW's from 63rd or there abouts near Argo/Summit, I don't know how it does business. As for the motels on Washington, they have a ton of them on S. Michigan and Prarie in the 40's and 50's. They are in old 6 flat buildings that have been converted. I would assume that now they are junkie motels for transients or women who have left abusive homes, as I have seen women outside those places with children. If you have ever read any Iceberg Slim books, (anyone in the hobby better know who the hell that is) those motels used to be frequented almost exclusively by workin women. The iceberg slim books are kinda interesting and hard to put down because it takes place in chicago and the midwest, albeit in the 1930's and 1940's. Some of these tracts in the city are ANCIENT!!! It also talks about strolls in other midwest areas, such as Terra Haute, Danville, and I think either Ft. Wayne or South Bend. Sorry to ramble, but there's a little historical lesson about our hobby, LOL!!!
JohnnyBeBad
10-14-03, 08:44
The motel on Roosevelt Rd.in either Maywood/Broadview,is the Travel Inn and they advertise 40 and up. Looks clean and nobody hanging around.Passed by early this morning.
Zoomie,
I'd stay away from Diane if I were you. I dated her about 18 months ago and she was OK. Very chatty from the crack...pretty good bbbj, but she made me nervous so I couldn't relax. Shortly after I saw her, one of the regular posters reporting seeing her and getting a really bad rash around his genitals the next day from the bbbj. He went to the doctor and was given a creme that cured the rash, but it sure freaked me out. Earlier this summer (June I think), I saw her in an alley 1 block south of Armitage and 1 block east of Pulaski in the afternoon. She looked horrible and she was smoking some rock right there as I passed her in the middle of the afternoon. Remember, even nice girls change from the rock, all of them as a matter of fact. I see some girls I used to date years ago that now look really bad, but were gems back in the day.
mwm
Chester,
On friday, during the early evening hours, I think it was Secret and another blonde sw who I saw on Cicero avenue near 50th.
I was going to make contact but as I was circling the block, LE was already there questioning them. When I drove past later, they were gone.
I have spent some time with Secret and I think she provides decent service. If I should see her again and she has contact info, I will pass it along to you.
-----------------------------------
Lady, I appreciate your posts and Photos!
MWM,
I hear ya. I only asked because I saw a possible WSW who strongly fit the description of Diane when she was wasn't so drugged out. I recall seeing the post you mention of the other guy's scare. This was shortly after my last visit with Diane and it wigged me out too.
I agree with you on the sad deterioration of the girls we used to know before drugs really messed them up. I recall a pretty young thing I used to see years ago, 18 or 19 yrs old then. I stopped seeing her because the last time I picked her up, she reeked of spray paint, and had green paint dotting her face. Needless to say I lost my urges, bought her a meal at McD's and left her there. I figured she'd have been dead on the streets by now, but recently saw her walking in Uptown. I swear she looked like she was in her late 30's. Really sad.
Zoomie
Member #2944
10-14-03, 18:27
I have 8 tickets to each game, box seats, not first row, but very good seats. I'm reluctant to part with them, I too, paid a premium for them. The NL lost to the AL in the All Star Game, so the AL has the home field advantage. So it would be 2 games in Bos/NYC / 2 Games in CHI / 1 Game BOS/NYC / 1 GAME CHI / 1 GAME BOS/NYC
I have tickets for the two middle games (games 3 and 4).
If you are interested in making me an offer, do so quickly and I'll let you know. Otherwise, I'm taking my whole family to both games.
Thanks Devlin for the advice.
So basically I get a room, and then just go for a walk? Just approach someone who is a ho and ask, "Hey I'm looking for a date?"
I guess I need to hone my skills. I've started to look around, but still haven't developed that keen eagle eye yet. Anything in particular you look for. I mean, as of right now, I guess I'd be looking for a chick who is all slutted up...but based on your guys' posts, seems more subtile then that.
Peace!
Hey guys,
Thanks for the compliments. Grantburger you mentioned Iceberg slim he wrote a book and other novels about the life , another author that depicts the lifestyle was Donald Goines another true to life pimp, a cult favorite of any die hard hobbyist. I read all of those years ago and am so suprised that you knew of them.
I agree about the drugs messing up the girls looks , women are already in jeapordy around their 30,s add drugs and alcohol to the mix and watch the women slide into a weather beaten hag . It would be alot nicer if the women were strictly professionals like any other job and not allowed to come to "work" high .
I saw a really hot sw today at Brandy parking lot in a big coat very long brown hair, she also had a brown outfit . Brandy,s is at archer and cicero this was at about 1pm she almost seemed to be a fresh turnout , she was caught up in the rain too, I could tell she was a sw because the rain didnt faze her. Stay safe strap up.
Lady
Don't get ahead of yourself, guys!
Why would you travel to NYC to see the Yankees play the Marlins?
FunLovingOne
10-15-03, 12:03
Thanks Chester. Your consideration is greatly appreciated and a tribute to the power of this forum and brotherhood. I will correspond further with you by email.
Jonny, Oh yee of little faith. Kerry is going to shut them down tonight! Go Cubs!
Member #2944
10-15-03, 15:45
As long as we are on the subject...check out this pic.
GrantBurger
10-15-03, 20:01
Well, first off, I think Cicero Ave. in Cicero is coming back to life. Lemme give you the rundown...on the way home from work this afternoon, I took a lil drive. Saw a FINE bsw on 5th and Cicero. Took a left at Roosevelt, saw 2 BSWs, one of which was a dude disguised as a female, if not, that was the most dude lookin female I have ever seen!! Then further south on Cicero right around 16th things really came to life, saw several SW's one White, 2 black, and 1 puerto rican. They tried to stay off Cicero for the most part and were walking east towards the city on 16th. Hooked up with the puerto rican one, went back to her place. I was skeptical based on the area she gave, but went there, searched the place and it was all good. $20 well spent. I do have a phone number on this one. I will warn you though, for most white people this neighborhood, 17th and Kostner, will give you the creeps. I am white, however I grew up on Kostner and Flournoy, and am very much accustomed to those areas. As for Ms. Lady, lol, I may be a young buck, however I very much know about those books. Based on where I grew up, I was always around pimps, my mom's father was a pimp. I learned from the best, I met Don Juan, etc. That's how I started in the hobby. When I was removed from my home and given to relatives, I would steal their car (I was 13-14, lol) and pick up the sw's around 5 a.m. I would charm them and scam them, I'd offer to buy them a pop, and they'd go in and get one, half the time they'd leave their purse in the car, and I'd be gone. Other times I'd get them twisted up and pretend I lived in the neighborhood. We'd park in the alley and go to my "house" and I'd run and snatch their purse, they never carried it across their body. I'd go as late as possible, 4-5 a.m. to get the most money. It wasn't a thrill though guys, it was to pay for food and what not, being given to my aunt was no treat, as her kids were taken from her when I was a young young buck, we'd have 5 of us sleep in a room. I actually started pimping in h.s. for a bit. I had a slick tongue, and the girls were easy if you flashed money, which I got from hustling, and I had them on North Ave. After the city passed the resolution stating that if they are caught twice it's a felony, I gave it up, I wasn't about to let them plea out of a felony by giving me up. With that said, I do get offers to pimp again as people know who I am, however, I'm trying to leave all that behind. Besides now it gets more personal, as people that I grew up with are on the grind now off of North Ave. Every weekend my friends and I see someone we grew up with sellin themselves. It's a very interesting lifestyle, and it still fascinates me since I understand the BIG picture most people refuse to see. Well, that's enough from me now!!
Member #2944
10-15-03, 21:11
Grant,
No offense, but it smells and sounds like bullshit. Last year I had the opportunity to spend some time with "real" pimps, for a book that I'm writing. (probably never will be published)
I asked them (between the two of them, they had 40 years of pimping) if they ever saw a white pimp, and they laughed and said the only white pimps were wanna be pimps and would get their asses kicked in no time flat.
Do I believe you are a fast talker? Sure. Do I think you could hustle women? sure. But the way you tell your story, you brag about stealing from hookers, whatever. So you are either full of shit, or a piece of shit.
What is the BIG picture that you see that the rest of us don't see?
Give me a break.
P.S. I do believe you are in the hobby, I just don't believe your punk ass story.
ChicagoBoy23
10-16-03, 00:45
Best club (IMO) Chicago area is Industrial Strip (Hammond Indiana)
Take 90/94 South to Skyway, get off on Calumet and hang a right
you can also get directions/hours on their website
hot girls, good lap dances but no booze
Hey, I know this is way out of topic, but I feel sorry for all you Cubs fans. The baseball gods, the goat, and Fred Merckel struck again.
alphafield
10-16-03, 01:26
Chester-
No white pimps????
We can't dance, but there are (and have been) many many many white pimps in Chicago, Illinois, America, the world, etc.....
-Af-
Member #2944
10-16-03, 01:28
Are you talking about men who sell women or an actual "pimp" who walks the streets pimping out girls?
GrantBurger
10-16-03, 04:58
Look Chester, I respect your postings and all, but, not everyone is fortunate enough to have 8 tickets to two games for the world series (that'll never be played) for the cubs, money wasn't around when I was a kid, so I had to earn it. You don't have to believe me that's cool, but I'll tell you straight up, I been hustlin since I was 4 years old, stealin water bottles from stores to sell at the entrance to 290 on Kostner, to get enough money to eat. I wasn't spoon fed shit, and there weren't any jobs available. Especially to me in that neighborhood, everyone assumed that either I or my family was on drugs and I was a threat to steal. It wasn't the case, but there were definately problems. You can go ahead and believe what you want I was pimping from just before 18 until I was 21. Keep in mind, a white guy who grows up in a black neighborhood is a pretty hot commodity. You get a lotta attention and a lotta the females wanna experiment with you. You can go check my credentials, go to Kostner and Flournoy ask about the white boy that grew up over there and pimped on North Ave. someone will now. Lemme ask you this, did you ever run into any of my girls, they ran the same line that they were from an escort service and were on the street since business was a little slow, they tried to charge 150 for fs. As for the car I drove when I was monitoring my ladies, I kept it low profile, 96 Corolla, to blend in with the area. I had my 71 Impala Convertabile on 20 inch 180 spoke rims and custom interior, lookin nice for when we went out, but I kept it low profile to make it look like I was a john. It's a lot easier to get outta a jam looking like a john scoping out some booty then it does a pimp monitoring his hoes. As for being a piece of shit... lol, I wasn't spoon fed shit, my mama didn't have peanut butter and jelly sandwiches waiting for me for lunch, she didn't have chocolate chip cookies waiting for me and my friends after school. When my cousins were removed from their house and put into ours, we had 5 of us sleeping in the same cramped bedroom. Your walk in closet is probably bigger than my room was. If I'm a piece of shit because we didn't have food, and I was too young to work, so I hustled how I new how, then flush me down the toilet. I am a lot smarter than you give me credit for, if you actually got to learn me, you'd understand. Believe me though I get plenty of ass on my own, lol, some of my women just don't give head though, lol, and I'm not flexible enough to handle that on my own, lol. $20 to get some head here and there is fine with me when someone's girl's aren't actin right. One last thing about that strip club, save your money from industrial strip and head out to Shangri-La in Gary and have a good ol' time. I know a lot of the ladies that work there, and the fellas who work there (security), my ex-gf's family bankrolled the place, trust me you'll have fun.
Member #2944
10-16-03, 06:20
Grantburger,
I have no problem with you growing up with no money. <I> grew up with no money. My problem is that you talked about stealing money from Ho's as if you were proud of it, and that you had some understanding of the "big picture" that the rest of us don't understand.
This is the last that I'm going to discuss this thread, and just fyi - you are right, not all of us had chocolate chip cookies (not me at least)
I'm not going to go into the details of my personal life except to say that I find stealing from other people, even ho's, to be extremely detestable and nothing to be proud of. I don't care what your financial situation was at the time. That was really a punk ass thing to do.
As for women, I believe your reports, etc. I have no problem with that. And no, I'm not going to go to your "hood" and ask about you.
If you want to continue this discussion, then back channel me. Otherwise, consider it dead.
Btw... when you get older you'll get to know what a "nice" car really is. :)
The veracity of Grantburger's claims can be debated in either direction. I admit I find some of his claims hard to swallow. However, I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. I've found his other posts to be useful.
That being said, one thing is clear. His writing style and paragraph structure was probably a product of the Chicago Public School system. ;)
Hey Philster,
I'm heading to Dallas in 2 weeks and saw your report on Hope. Can you send me her #? My e mail is mwmchicago@safe-mail.net
Thanks and I'd be glad to return the favor.
mwm
Hope's number is 214-783-5564.
Have fun and let me know if you have any luck with the motel girls as I couldn't find right approach to.
Later,
Philster
Grantburger,
Wow a white pimp that should be legendary, You never did tell me how old you are exactly? What is young to one person may be old to another, so how old are you Grantburger? I too know Don "magic " Juan, back in the days he was just plain old Don Campbell a pimp with both a herion and pcp " wicked sticks " habit, but now hes cleaned up his act and sold out to the industry that makes a parody out of the one profession that once supported him. He is a sellout and NOT true to his roots, we laugh at him, he laughs all the way to the bank. America has gone PIMP crazy, just look at all the videos, and you can bet there a million little white boys from the suburbs claiming to one day be a pimp, lol. Even the word pimp is construed and taken out of context these days, a nice pair of gym shoes could for example be called pimp. An example: "man those are the pimpest shoes in town".
If you would like to tell me your old name or moniker or street name that you went by I would be more than happy to check out your story , It should be easy to do as i know people, also mention some of street people that should know you and it would help out some, your old stomping grounds have alot of abandoned buildings and different transient people there but theres enough oldtimers and residents I'm sure that would remember you. Are you jewish? Because I do know that the area was once predominantely jewish at one time.
Any way I appreciate all posts and comments to this board. I am curious as to what it is you do now? your occupation if you dont mind telling me. Also I love old cars , what engine is in that 71 car of yours? I have a 69 duece with a 430 v8, very nice indeed.
Well stay safe strap up.
Lady
EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to remove the extra space in front of periods and question marks. Please try to use standard writing practices in the future.Thanks!
GrantBurger
10-16-03, 21:24
LOL @ Chester about the nice car!! Anyway, you're right it was a punk ass thing to do, but when you were at the point where I was, it was about survival. It wasn't a first resort thing, I sold off everything that I had, from sports cards (lol, most of those I stole when I was really young, lol) coin collections people gave me, all of my cd's, clothes, etc. It wasn't that I was taking my money and goin to buy video games, lol, my parents weren't too responsible, and I basically have been taking complete care of myself since I was about 8 years old. After I exhausted every penny, I had to do something to get money to eat, so I figured out that robbing ho's would work instead of "regular" people. My reasoning was that if I rob her, she can't tell the police. She's not going to go to the police and say I was out trickin, and someone robbed me of the money that I made that night from trickin. Obviously I was careful about it, I'm from the west side of chicago, I am very aware of my surroundings. It's not like it was a nightly thing, it was go scope out someone, get the $1000-$1500, and bounce. When you only used to eatin like 1 meal a day, $1500 lasts a long time. As for family taking care of me, all I had was my aunt, but that was no treat either, as her kids were removed from her too. Everyone else in my family thought I wasn't going to amount to anything and didn't really reach out. Now they're kickin themselves in the ass because I amounted to something, and didn't end up in jail, or get someone pregnant when I was 16. They wish they coulda been there for me now, but they cut off for good. I'm not proud at all of what I did, now I have started to develop feelings. LOL, I feel really bad for that guy Steve Bartman (Cubs fan), I feel bad for what I did, but growing up how I did that was what I did to survive. There case closed, anyone who wants to question me or pick my brain feel free, it's like therapy to discuss my past since I kept it bottled in for so long. grantburger@worldnet.att.net
As for zoomie, thanks for the compliment, I am glad that I have been able to help someone out!!
Until next time...
Mr. Grammatically Challenged :)
GrantBurger
10-16-03, 21:29
Oh yeah, isn't this some kind of SW forum!? lol, I forgot, I was dropping a co-worker off today at Madison and Hamlin, actually saw about 3 pretty decent looking BSW's in that area. Also, did the same route as yesterday, 16th was dead, however there is this bridge you have to go under from the city entering into Cicero. There is a "common" area where a bunch of homeless people stay under the bridge, no doubt blow addicts since most in that area are, however now it's getting to be Meth too (I was shocked to find that out, I thought that was only in the South and the West). There might have been some SW's or potentials under the bridge talking to their fellow addicts. Roosevelt, and I believe Kevdale (the area I reported on yesterday) had 1 bsw, where basically if you really needed some head, I mean REALLY needed some head, she woulda worked. Other than that, it was pretty dry today, however it is the 16th, because of the holiday, checks came a day later. Around the 1st it'll pick up heavily again.
Grantburger,
Are you telling us that you would get 1000 to 1500 cash off of robbing one ho? Really, somehow you managed to find that "one ho " that was able to work and save up 1500 bucks and still be out on the street? In the exact area you described, the west side? How odd that sounds because most hoes that work the tracks you decribed are flat out dopefiends. Maybe in the 60's and 70's you could find a ho that disciplined to actually work and save up that dough, but unfortunatley what you have out there now are just uncontrolable drug addicts that couldnt buy a pack of smokes let alone be carrying around 1000 to 1500 bucks on them.
I don't have to ask the fellas on the board because they already know what I'm talking about, sounds like you have been reading to many "pimp" novels, remember those where all written in the 60's and 70's.
If you know what it is to be an addict, which most of these girls are you would know that first off no trick in his right mind would give a west side hooker more that 20 to say 60 bucks for what ever. These are dopefiends they will take anything they arent picky when it comes down to getting high. Second of all when that ho gets done making her 20 or whatever bucks it is she automaticically runs straight to the dopeman to get her fix. Thats why shes out there, thats why you guys never see a girl right after someone has picked her up because as soon as shes done with the date, shes getting high you have to wait until her bag runs out. So there are NO hoes that could fight their addiction that amount of time to just be wandering the stroll with 1000 - 1500 bucks in their pocket .
Also I agree with Chester, it is despicable for anyone to rob anybody, thats just taking at least the hoes do work for their money. I grew up on the streets without shit and know theres alot of other hustles besides robbing someone. To make the mistake of thinking everyone on the board grew up with "milk and cookies waiting" is just being sterotypical. Alot of the tricks on this board grew up with less money than the hoes they patronize.
Now my question to you is: You claim to have pimped, what did you provide for you hoes for their dedication? What did you do for your hoes as far as money, shelter, clothes, etc.
Thanks for taking out the time to answer. Stay safe strap up.
Lady
GrantBurger
10-17-03, 18:43
Here's your daily dose of the west side. They did HUGE drug raids on Thursday, rumor has it, that it was the biggest drug raid ever in this country, they arrested almost 500 people. Anyway...you can imagine it was slim pickins today. I had to take a lil detour today and on Kilbourn near 16th there was a WSW or an HSW sitting in a chair on the sidewalk, she had brown hair and a black coat, she was smilin and wavin at the passersby. Also one other thing, and I think anyone respectable on here can appreciate this, but you get no specific information, i.e. phone numbers, unless you have something to give. This prevents free loaders, and LE who are trying to run stings. Also, if you are LE, you might wanna start makin contributions, even if fake, so maybe you can get the information you want. We aren't stupid fools, a no name who hides in the background isn't gonna get any information from anyone respectable on here. Probably goin out with the fellas tonight, so I should have some more reports tomorrow!! PEACE
Sugar Daddy D
10-18-03, 02:18
Whew! I was wondering why everything was like a ghost town on Thursday! Thanks for the info on those busts Grantburger. I was out between 9:30 and 1:00am looking everywhere, (Ashland, Western, 63rd, 47th, Cicero, and Madison), I didn't see one single SW anywhere!!!
Madison was desolate. I haven't been down there for awhile so I was a bit freaked out when I saw the "Blue Light" Specials flashing on the poles taking pictures. I assumed that this is what happened, but I guess a drug bust thins the field too.
I wonder if it was a citywide sting, or if I was just damn unlucky. Actually, maybe I was damn lucky I didn't get caught up in the sting by mistake!
Oh well, I'll try it next week! Happy hunting folks.
Member #2944
10-18-03, 03:29
Was driving home @ 1:30 AM from a bachelor party and saw two bsw's on Lawrence at Pulaski by the Dominick's.
They were definitely working, I assume trying to get the Admiral crowd. First time I've seen a working girl around there in years.
JohnnyBeBad
10-18-03, 09:34
STING ALERT- Last night (friday around 10pm) I was driving going east on Roosevelt from Kostner after striking out on one of my favorite spots(Puklaski and Roosevelt).Just east of Cicero Ave.by the adult bookstore I saw a really good looking bs/w waving at me and other passing cars. I couldn't stop because traffic was too heavy and I had to go to Cicero Ave.and make a left. I had a long wait for the light(a good thing)then turned and turned again on 12th Pl.going east back towards the bookstore.When I turned the next corner there it was.Undercover cars all around a car with some poor dude being slammed on the ground and handcuffed.The bs/w I had seen was getting into a van with a guy who had a brown cook county vice jacket on.I drove past then went back to Cicero Ave.going s/b.At almost every other corner were ladies,many too good looking to be s/w.
Member #6131
10-18-03, 11:52
Things seem to be monitored here more then I thought. What is a hobbiest to do? What can we do? Need to protect our hobby for that fictional book we are writting. Any ideas?
Member #2944
10-18-03, 18:53
What you write here is anonymous, trust me. Like I said a while ago, it's just a story.
"Last night I picked up 10 playboy centerfolds who all fucked me for 10 dollars each and wouldn't stop clawing at me for more sex. "
Just don't post phone #'s, back channel those.
Warpig2000
10-18-03, 23:01
Hehehe good one Chester! Maybe Jackson needs to put up a special board to move alll the tall tales, urban legends and obvious bullshit that gets outed on the various WSGboards.
Chief_Wiggum
10-19-03, 11:49
I was going to post something about a sting coming up b/c the week before, there were undercover cop cars all over the place, and regular LE was out in force.
The undercop car will be a gray car, sometimes brown, but I've been seeing gray mostly, 2003 model, Impala(?). They were driving like 30 secs behind a regular LE car. Saw one of the Gold Coast bsw's down on cicero (10/10). Now, I'm thinking she's LE (b/c she's so good looking), but she was there w/another bsw, and LE usually work alone.
Saw a couple of bsws stray down to the Cicero side of Cicero, but I will respectfully disagree with Grantburger and state that there is no action in Cicero. Cicero is trying hard to clean up and they're really clean for the most part. I don't think they would tolerate the SW action. If anything, you'll see a bsw stray as far as the motel. I saw one hot one (GC variety) w/a long french curl, along the dark side of Cicero (across from the motel). I'm surprised that more SWs walk that way (it's dark, not as much traffic, but enough). Then, I remembered, Cicero does not tolerate SWs.
Anyway, continuing that Friday (10/10), no action on 47th (still haven't seen it on a weekend, maybe I don't go down enough ;). No action on the Gold Coast, and went back to Cicero and saw a blond, curly, sw, big rack, kinda portly all over (not fat, just big). She looks foreign. Anyone know?
GrantBurger
10-19-03, 14:01
Ms. Lady,
Naw, they weren't on Madison, the ones I robbed were on North Ave. As for my girls they were sometimes near Kingsbury, but mostly on the otherside where they shut it down like near Wabansia. I got really lucky. My cousin is a low life and she has like no responsibility. Fortunately for her she has a ton of money. After my aunt died, my cousins had to clean out her place and sell it, which took like 5 years, lol. She let me stay at her apartment, for free. So it was a three bedroom apartment, and I had the girls stay there instead of a transient motel or something like that. Hair was done twice a week, if necessary, otherwise it was done on Thursday to get ready for the weekend. Clothes, once again no problem, I had friends from around the way who were boosters, so I rewarded them with one outfit a week. I kept everything tight in the apartment, like food and what not. Unless they had a "call in order" Monday was rest day and we usually went out to eat. In terms of money, I kept them looking good and they had what they needed. If something came up, like buying an outfit for one of their kids, or sending money back home to mama, that was no problem either. Well, I gotta get going talk to you later. I'm tellin you all, you may not believe it, but it's cool, you can check my credentials. Besides it runs in the family for me, my mama's dad was a pimp, among other things. Also, Whitefolks is from Chicago, so any "pimp" who doesn't know who he is, needs to go do a lil more research.
Human 1000
10-19-03, 14:14
To Chester.
Do you have any tips for cruising the Gold Coast? I've seen in some of your past posts that girls do work that area, and may be a bit higher priced. I've driven the area with my eyes open many times, without success. I assume the girls working the GC do not wear clothing that immedeately identify them as working girls.
Do you have any inside tips or advice for fishing those particular streets?
Thanks in advance.
Grantburger,
It doesnt matter where you robbed these hoes at , the question was out of all the hoes , you happen to find one thats got 1500 cash on her?.The one ho in the city that is that disciplined to carry 1500 cash and NOT run to the dopehouse? As for Mr.Whitefolkes anyone who watched "Pimps up Hoes down " pimp documentry knows of his exploits , but what you dont seem to know is the new pimp is the dope man.The tales that you hear or saw on a documentry are pimps talking of the days of old before crack cocaine, back when hoes where real hoes taking care of families not trying to get high.
No self respecting girl or pimp would carry 1500 cash on them while on the streets at anytime, no pimp is going to let his girl loose or even hold that amount of cash while working.
And as for you telling us your girls used the line "150 for fs and I,m only doing this because the escort service is slow or whatever ".Every girl out there tells that line, so that dont tell us anything.
The reason that these old pimps are making these documentrues is because the game is played out and "rocks and blows" replaces the pimps . What these girls do have is another dopefiend like them selves that runs them from the track to the dopoehouse a guy thats willing to sit on the side streets and wait for the 20-40 bucks or what ever the girl brings back, he then drives her to the dope spot to cop a bag and they proceed to get high. The best a girl can hope for is that he knows the dealers because she doesnt have to get hassled trying to buy , he can get it for her.
I can say I'm related to Don Juan, you really just dont know, so you throwing whitefolks name out there dont tell me a thing, whats your street name? Whats the name of some of your "hoes" all the regulars on this board, one of them is bound to know your girls, give us exact names and descriptions, not name dropping. Because you could be some just some guy thats read some books and watched a few documentries such as pimps up hoes down or HBO,s American Pimp or Pimp Tails to name a few these showcase a few well known pimps they tell their stories and thats it.
You claim to have been a pimp a while back and you have been very lucky to find a girl willing to pimp for a room , a girl who turns all her money over to you , when she could keep it herself and have her own place ? Also you find a ho to rob for 1500? Where these black girls or white girls? And what years did this happen? Theres a big underground culture out there and I,m sure that some of my people would have heard of you, especially being a white pimp. What was your choosing fee? If you where a pimp you would of course know of a notification service , tell me exactly what a notification service is? These are things not talked in the documentries , but any real pimp or ho would know about. Thanks for taking time to answer. Stay safe strap up.
Ms Lady
Carpe Dium
10-19-03, 21:31
I have a suggestion to you grantburger:
Why dont you try to read about a real pimp "Iceburg Slim" and then your fantasy adventure could have a little more punch like the HBO special "Ho's Down, Pimps Up"..lol.
Here is a site for you to to view grantburger:
http://www.theblacklibrary.com/iceburg.htm
Ms. LADY: I totally agree with your comments, sounds like you have lived the life.
As far as LE getting info from this board for their "Operations", just take a look at The City's web page and you'll see all the prostitution arrest locations and arrestee's names. They post their prostitution stings monthly ...check it out:
http://egov.cityofchicago.org/city/webportal/portalEntityHomeAction.do?entityName=Police&entityNameEnumValue=33
All the locations are the same locations that are discussed here on this board....
So realistically, anytime you go for a hunt you're actually rolling the dice for being arrested and have your ride impounded.
But then that's what being a hobbiest is all about. The adventure, the thrill of the hunt and hoping that you will find a diamond in the ruff without any major loss to funds, life, limb or property.
Stay safe
Ratso here.
Interesting early morning (4-5am) in Chicago.... nightlife area around Excalibur was really hoppin, and so were some gorgeous bsw's, in and out of cars, and up and down on woodmeisters (I'm sure). Very impressive girls out.... couldn't quite hook up with them cuz I was not as bold as some idiots that didn't seem at all worried about coppers.... swooped right in and grabbed before I could go around 2-3 times looking for LE.
About 5:45 spoke briefly with 3 knockout bsw's in a van at light for Clybourn and North.... they were heading back to Milwaukee.... tried to get a date, but they were already in the 'go home' mode.... bummer, all quite pretty and built.
Ended up picking up bsw 'Rosalyn' on Chicago, near Laramie.... not a good place to hangout btw, but it was getting light and I was getting desperate.... doggied her and literally got her to bark during (I'm serious.... she and I both laughed, but she did it).... $30 + $3 for condom. She was ok, about 30 and decent build.
Headed west towards home and saw two cute bsw's in Maywood, on 5th, between Washington and Madison about 7am. Was interested, so came back around, and both were piling into their pimp's car. Too bad, one was particularly cute, young, well dressed.
Then took St Charles west and saw an ugly old bsw ready to suck your balls off.... for those that like such nut removal, she was at St Charles and 15th.
Happy humping!
Ratso
GrantBurger
10-20-03, 01:07
It's cool people gonna believe what people wanna believe, but I can only tell you the truth, you can do what you want with it. It's a lot easier to get ho's than you think. Unfortunately, in my explanations there are a lot of loose ends that make my claim look suspect. Unfortunately by LE monitoring this board, I cannot tie up those loose ends publicly. The only way that I can tie up these loose ends is to have someone backchannel me, and even then that can only be someone with some credibility, such as a Chester or Ms. Lady. My claim is real, and my claim is authentic, and once the real story gets out there, then it makes sense. With that said, across the street from my job (North Ave. and Sheffield) I saw an older lookin BSW. Also, last night was a FUCKED up night. My friends and I had a good old time at the club, then around 4:30 we went around Fremont, Kingsbury, etc. Well, it was Mexican or Puerto Rican night at one of the clubs and it was letting out. The car in front of us had a gang of people in it and they got out and started shouting gang slogans and throwing up gang signs to the car behind us. My friends and I are thinkin that we're gonna get caught in crossfire. One of the guys accidently bumped my mirror and looked in my car and saw two black guys and me in there. They started shoutin shit at us too. I told them ain't nothin happenin, and my friends did too. STILL, they had my car surrounded, and one of them took a swing at one of my guys, and the other friend had a knife put to his throat. Fortunately I am fluent in spanish, so I did some fast talking and everything was cool, but be careful. One of the guys apologized and explained what happened. Apparently something happened in the club and spilled into the streets. As there have been shootings related to clubs around strolls recently, Voyuer downtown, The Prop House which spilled over to the Amoco Station at North and Elston, and last night near Weed St. just be careful, LE isn't your only enemy. BTW since LE reads this....WHERE THE FUCK WERE YOU LAST NIGHT!? That's why roundin up sw's is a waste of time. Instead of harassing them, you shoulda been around to keep my guy from gettin a knife pressed to his throat. No doubt they had heat on them too, where were you when you needed to be around?
Member #2944
10-20-03, 05:20
Like I said, I dropped the subject. I have not the time, nor the inclination to verify your story.
After Grantburger's first post, I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. But the more he writes, the more I can't but help feel the BS getting deeper and deeper. It reminds me of the time when Vanilla Ice was trying to prove his "street cred".
Methinks doth protest too much
GrantBurger
10-20-03, 12:06
Ms. Lady,
I just saw one of your old reports. My cousin got the 71 when he stayed in Alabama, and immediately he dropped a corvette engine in there. He gave me the car after I did some favors for him. I did a little work on it, like putting the rims on it, getting the custom interior, and the sounds. I cut myself off from the stroll in 2000. That's about the time when rumors were going around about the felony thing after 2 arrests. My aunt's cousin is best friends with Richie and he warned me about what was gonna happen, so I disappeared. I took my girls down to Orlando and let them get knocked on OBT (orange blossom trail). As for what I do now, and how old I am...well...I stopped ALL street activity completely about 2 years ago when I came back to Chicago. From there I followed my legal passion of food. I went to a culinary school, and through my personal connections, and my family being well connected became a VERY young restaurant manager, a very successful one at that. Now, I will be leaving the Chicago area by the end of the year. I will continue being a restaurant manager at a VERY prestigious resort North of Milwaukee. (no names but it has the #2 golf resort in the country behind pebble beach, and hosts a major PGA tournament next year, and is a company most known for making bathroom fixtures, HINT HINT). I will be 24 in about 2 weeks, so there my age is out there. In addition to that, my friends and I have a real estate investment firm where we go to Englewood, South Shore, and Gary, IN and buy up buildings and rehab them. I also am a pretty successful investor in the stock market. Other than that, I have several stakes in some projects that haven't gotten off the ground yet. Basically we're taking our business smarts from the street and turning it into a positive light. I do VERY well for myself, not as well as I did in the streets, but now it's all legal. As for my heritage, I am Irish. My mom's dad was sent here from Providence, RI, to branch out and expand the gambling territory of his outfit. In addition to that, he pimped and did other illegal things. His turf was basically South Shore and Woodlawn. He got out of it in the 70's but he was a piece of shit. That's where me and him are different. About the only thing I missed out on by bein in the streets was my D1 scholarship for basketball and track and University of N. Texas, which I turned down. As for being Vanilla Ice, say what you will. My mama grew up in South Shore and Woodlawn, and these areas were well gone in terms of white flight when she was there, and my father grew up in Little Rock and was in school during the little rock 7 time. His family lived in the black part of town. Growing up it was on the west side of Chicago. There's no acting, or whatever on my part. Most people just call me the White Negro, or just say God forgot to color me with the brown crayon. I've never even been with a white girl, it's only been black. That's just me, you can take it or leave it.
Grantburger, no offense but I have never heard such complete and unadulterated BS!!! I am sorry but anyone who believes a word of this shit should prepare themselves to be sold a bridge. I agree with chester and lets all move on. If I wanted to read about this bio bullshit then I would be at another site. So spare us the time of having to scroll down past your miserable, half-page long, plagerised BS from Mancows book with different names, to allow us true hobbyists to read the scoop.
Word to your mother,
Philster <*.*>
Anyone is a successful investor in the stock market would never say they are a successful investor in the stock market.
Please let this die.
The following takes place
between 10:00 p.m to 11:30 p.m ...
On saturday, I was driving on 47th from Western avenue to Pulaski searching for Tracy but I did see Kelly who is a wsw, short, slender with shoulder length straight brown hair (still got that damn '80's 'do) and I also saw Shannon who is a wsw, very short, skinny with greasy dark pulled back hair. Both are decent french speakers but nothing to get excited about.
"She can walk with THAT walk & talk the street slang, I luvs it when a girl knows how to use her thang."
Devlin
P.S. I will no longer use time frames because the connoisseurs of donuts must earn there pay!
JohnnyBeBad
10-20-03, 15:35
What was grantburgers' pimp name? I've been with street walkers since my first bbbj at a hotel that was on Warren near Damen(gone now) in 1969 and I know some ladies that been in this business for over twenty years. Give me his street name and I'll ask around the next time I'm with an old timer. Anyone on this board remember Mailbox Mary? Anyway,Ratso,the liquor store on 5th just north of Madison in Maywood has been a recent hotbed of s/w delights. Maywood can really be hit or miss and the worst one seem to be on St.Charles and the better choices on Madison. Just be careful because the gang warfare has been up this summer around there.
Hey guys,
Mailbox Mary brings back some memories . The story was that she would mail her money to herself, because she would get busted and didnt want the cops or anyone else to steal her money,she worked chicago and rush area often.
I already stated the biggest, baddest pimp in Chi was Rose Laws she had a circuit that covered several states, and she was a older white woman from the south.
A few others I remember "Big Al" the black escort service owner. Then another old black gentleman in his 70,s named George. they mostly had white girls that worked and a decent selection too.
Sw sighting today at 3:00pm at 47th and pulaski a blond with a bad dye job,I need to get my camera recharged.
Stay safe, strap up.
Lady
EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to add a space between sentences. To avoid future delays, please include one space between sentences in future reports. Thanks!
Warpig2000
10-20-03, 19:21
Grantburger is right that there is no Benton Harbor board per see on WSGforums, but there are street girls there. Check Michigan- Other Areas http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=172. There are Benton Harbor reports, and one from 9/24 by Popsla seems
especially poignant- even has a link to a picture of a skank who moved there from Chicago. I figure she things got to hot for her in the Windy City.
(Not lending support one way or the other on the rest of Grantburger's claims)
As for Mancow, he's an idiot. Lame brained motormouth who is absolutely in love with his own voice.
Member #2944
10-20-03, 19:43
Grantburger,
Can we drop the whole "credibility" issue and just post about ho's?
Thanks.
GrantBurger
10-20-03, 21:44
I know people have been talking about Maywood lately. Let me give you the information that I know about maywood. First off things really started to get good there about 2 years ago. Before that it was mostly just junkies, as the sw's would be near St. Charles, and on Madison near 17th. On the south side of the street there are some apt. buildings which are HUGE dope houses there. Anyway, the feds did some drug raids there about two years ago, and things went dry really fast. Violence went up as the gangs were fighting for the fresh turf. One of my friend's cousins is a VERY well connected member of one of those gangs, and we were going to the liquor store one night when we bumped into one of his friends. Unfortunately, I can't remember his name, but he was talkin about he had some hoe's that were ready to jump down and make some money. Unfortunately or maybe not so unfortunate, Maywood is NOTORIOUS for easy women. As there are tons of apartments there, and a decent amount of the regular houses have been chopped into 2 and 3 flats, there is not a lot of stability in terms of building community in a community. Many come from broken homes, and are very easy targets for the turn out. One of my friend's sister has fallen victim to the turn out, my other friend's cousin has fallen for the turn out, and several other girls I know from the area have gone for it too. With that said, let's jump forward to 2003. I'm sure most of you have heard about that ex police officer who at the age of something like 63 turned into a dope fiend (that late in the game he shoulda been safe). He was exchanging guns for dope, and he hoped to create a war, which he was successful in doing. Maywood which typically has anywhere from 7-12 murders per year, has at least 20 that I know of this year. Police are very busy trying to get control of that, and as a result really aren't focusing too much attention on the sw's. Seeing as Maywood doesn't have the same type of SW restrictions that the city does, it's a ripe area for this type of environment. My advice is to just be careful. My friends in the area have always said that anywhere near either of the Proviso high schools, especially East, in Maywood, the girls are notorious for diseases. On a side note, I have been with several girls in my personal life from that area, I believe it is VERY possible that someone could pull a girl who isn't a sw. Near Maywood is Bellwood, and sometimes the sw's are over there too. Sometimes they are near 25th Ave. I have seen Sw's on Madison and Eastern. There is a bar near Bellwood Ave, and the Prarie Path that has SW's occasionally. Bellwood Ave in general has some SW's from around the prarie path to 290. Also, sometimes the SW's venture towards Melrose Park, and you can catch an occasional SW on Broadway. 95% of these are BSW's of course, in Melrose Park you can catch an occasional HSW, and there are a few WSW's. There used to be a motel west of Mannheim in Bellwood that had SW's but a local church bought it up and turned it into a community center. That's pretty much the extent of things for the time being.
HappyGardener
10-21-03, 01:02
Jezzus, I go away for a couple of weeks and the board turns into Literotica.com.
Tune in next week, as Grantburger (chicagos own version of lookingforlefty) spins another tale from his memoirs.
Hey, as far as I am concerned, he can post as much as he wants. I just wish he and lady would learn to use commas and the return key once in awhile, and start seperating your sentences so it is easier to read.
Grantburger,
You have made the most of some very difficult situations, take Pride in that. Your posts and reviews will make or break you.
When I was a young playa just starting in the game .. Instead of chillin', some folks would try dissing me. Unbeknownst to them, I was a young buck who was straight up old school and was too legit to quit.
Because of my words & rhymes, my peeps (people) are giving me my props. This has made me the Mack Daddy, I is today.
Devlin - O.P. (Original Poster)
Not O.G. - Original Gangsta
Leech? Substance? What the hell do you ever offer about CURRENT situations and activity. I mean anyone doing a report about the historical scenarios and locations of SWs from anywhere to 2-20 years ago in crime-ridden and oppressed urban cultures would be set with your BS. For someone who supposedly has there pimphat in so many diverse business ventures and legit gigs, you seem to have alot of time to waste for all of the other hobbyists time in reading your reminescence of the good old days Frosty.
I don't want to waste anybodys time anymore either about this. No more replies from me about Grantburger's credibility. I will just shut up from here on about this subject.
And by the way, Not sure of name but off I55 on Cicero going towards Midway, there is a gas station right there on left corner and housing projects of some sort on right. I have noticed 2-3 BSWs working their at any time on that road by gas station ( not sure of name of street ) between 8-11pm. LE always seem to be driving by so I observed 2 of the grls flagging cars down the street then getting in. Never seen this area posted before, just wondering if its a new hot spot.
Thanks,
Philster
Philster,
Most of those bsw speak lousy french and are thieves. The area surrounding the project is aggressively patrolled by beat & tactical officers. Avoid it.
Also, 47th street from Cicero avenue to Central has zero activity and is a speed trap.
Dadawg_Chi
10-21-03, 14:32
Sighting! 65th & Pulaski at around 12:15pm Tuesday!
Tall, 5'7", Thin, 100-110 #'s, Big Hair, nasty face, no chest, but a nice ASS.
Drove by and looked, got a wink and a kiss blown at me but had someone in the car.
DAWG
Happy G,
I have never been good for my punctuation skills.
Next fight on the board I say we have a old fashioned jerk off contest to solve it.
SW sighting this morning:
WSW named Angie on 47th and Christiana. Shes a brunette 30,s big legs she had on a 3 stripes on the pants and sleeves dark blue jogging suit.
Stay safe, strap up
Lady
GrantBurger
10-21-03, 16:21
Sorry about the punctuation!! To Philster, for the most part I am pretty busy with 16-18 hour days, but I usually make a couple hours for my down time. ANYWAY....
On the way to work this morning, I had to be there at 5:00 a.m. unfortunately. I was in the area a little early and was driving around. Saw the last SW of the night on Kingsbury near VIP's. She was a really cute blond, and was in the process of getting scooped. Then on North Ave. about 3 blocks east of Western was another really cute blond. LOL, this one literally almost caused an accident in the alleys from mongers trying to hurry up and turn around to scoop her.
On the way home...saw a scraggly lookin bsw near pulaski and roosevelt. On my way down pulaski towards 16th I saw this girl I grew up with, scooped her and was talkin to her a minute. She was tellin me that some of the girls we grew up with were trickin on Kostner near 290 on the weekends. I wouldn't doubt it, but there are cameras in that area, so probably not too safe to be mongerin around in.
Then once again, someone basically called me a liar about this the other day, but saw three sw's from the bridge to Cicero Ave on 16th st. coming from the city into Cicero.
Other than that, I was thinking about the maywood post, and it dawned on me, that we came across that guy, they call him Fat Folks, at the liquor store on 5th about a block or two north of Madison.
Lucky for everyone else, I will be going on a business trip all over TX. next week, so people can relax a little.
JohnnyBeBad
10-21-03, 17:31
Ms Lady-You are definitely a woman who has been around, cause Mailbox Mary goes back some years. Let us see if you recognize these two famous west side black street girls from back some-Big Melody and Betty Boo. If you do,I'll tell you what happened to them.
Went on the prowl today and found myself on Mannheim between 1-3pm. Usually I avoid this area but noticed right around Galaxy bookstore a bsw around a 6-7. She was wearing a tight-fitting black sweat outfit and definitely stuck out and made her presence known with lots of smiles and eye contact. Anyways she crossed the street as I was going right past her and was getting ready for the hobbyist style U-turn when I saw 2 cars back an unmarked cop in a grey impala. He was following me and when I continued to go straight and he ended up doing the U-turn and saw him pull over a white work van who grabbed the bsw. Felt sorry for the guy but then again if this hobby was legit then it wouldn't be as much of a rush or satisfying. After this dose of reality I decided to go south and head east on Roosevelt. Would you believe another cop this time was following me. I stopped at a Walgreens and parked and made a call for about 5 minutes when the cop sat and got pissed waiting for me so I went into the store. He finally left Definitley not happy about that but anyways maybe LE is observing cars more closely now or something. I did finally pick up a bsw on the thickside but still nice-looking, about a 5-6 with a cute face who spoke decent french for $25, 20+TIP. Told her I would give her a tip for a decent bj. Pretty damn good BBBJTCWS unrushed in my truck. Anyways, she says she is out usually in mornings until about 8am but today she needed a little extra cash. Who am I to not oblige a working girl. Found her on Laramie just past bridge north of Roosevelt before heading back to the burbs.
Happy and safe hunting to all,
Philster
Lord Vader
10-21-03, 19:23
Just wanted to drop this post about a sw that I think one of you posted about a couple of days ago. 16th and close to Kostner(maybe Kilbourn?), sitting by a bus bench, dirty dark brown hair, dirty black coat, a little cute . Stated she was Irish , Italian , Puerto Rican, plus more . I joked and called her a mutt , not being mean , but in a playful way. Yeah I know , it's not that funny ,but I knew that she had heard it before. In her past she was probably hot.Wanted a dub , but gave her a dime for cbj. I just couldn't get into it. Maybe I was too turned off by the dirty hair and dirty coat . No happy ending for me.
Well anyway, saw a maybe cute, sw on 47th near pulaski.Black hair , red jogging suit , kinda dumpy or big breasted? I made a block, still did not get a good look . Saw another car pulled over for her (I guess). Just went home. Anybody here get that? Let me, ahem, us, know about it .
HappyGardener
10-21-03, 22:12
By the time I came in contact with Mailbox Mary, she was a grizzled, scary, crazy drunk who hing out side of my place of employment on Erie and harrassed us as we came in went.
May not be true, but the rumour I heard was about mailing herself the money and she manged to put her kids thru college with what she earned.
Member #2944
10-21-03, 23:20
Is that the "scary mary" that hangs out on Division by the bars?
FortWayneDude
10-21-03, 23:28
Just curious, do the sw's go in for the winter or are they typically out year round?
Member #2944
10-21-03, 23:46
Depends on how desperate they are for money. There are, undoubtedly, more girls out during the summer, but they are still out there in the winter.
FortWayneDude, I've seen SW's out on some of the coldest days of the year. Hell, I've even seen some BSW's out in the stereotypical hooker garb (mini skirts) in sub-zero temperatures.
Dadawg_Chi
10-22-03, 16:06
Sighting, 47th & Kildare. 3pm. Short, white, long blonde hair. Looking at traffic like crazy. Wish I had the chance at her, but working. SH*T!
DAWG
HEY ALPHAFIELD,
I saw your review of VIP spa in Centreville, IL. Could you email me a specific location? I will be in Centreville tomorrow. Thanks.
gooch9591@yahoo.com
does anyone know if A+ is still in business? there website is down and information has no listing for them. Does anyone have the phone number? Thanks.
Don Corleone
10-24-03, 13:07
What's happening everyone. I've been away for a while, so I have one report and one request.
My report. For you Northsiders, I'm writing a new story that involves Lincoln and Foster Ave. Gorgeous latina near the gas station. 30 for sweet French, and a body that was A+. Face was alright! 6 out of 10.
Now my request, Ms. Lady, I've been reading some of your posts, could you send me a private message via the WSG Forum's Private Message system?
Thank you!
The Don
Suburban Guy
10-24-03, 14:34
Went to VIP on N. Milwaukee this past Wednesday. It looks like a regular hair cutting establishment. When you go in and ask for massage, they direct you to the back. THere are no locked doors. The sauna has see through glass, and while I was in there, saw at least one other customer come in. Table shower was nice, and all parts were washed without asking.
Very thorough and relaxing massage. The only weird thing was, during the massage, another woman came in, who was much cuter than the firl massaging me, and asked me the usual questions abnout whether I had been there before. THe girls then spoke and she left. I did receive HR, so I think the girl massaging me was new and the other one was asking to be safe.
All girls wear same outfit. Pink skirt and black top. My girl had on old lady underwear, so my touches were not as good as I would have liked. However, massage and release were very good and for $80 plus tip, it was a nice time.
Member #2944
10-24-03, 18:20
Hi all. Stay away form Alla's massage therapy. They are in the reader under "health services" or something like that. They have really hot, young (~25) eastern european girls, but they give horrible massages and want $300+ bucks for "stress release".
GrantBurger
10-25-03, 00:15
WARNING....
Stay away from the west side tonight. On my way home the hit squad was going block by block 4-5 cars deep with 4 officers per car and rounding up people on the street for random searches and overall harassing. Any SW's in that area would be pretty risky. Even I got pulled over because of my skin color. Fortunately I knew one of the officers from the old neighborhood, so they let me go without the customary search. They did warn me though to stay away from the neighborhood for the next two days as they will be doing HUGE sweeps and rounding a TON of people up!! STAY AWAY!!!
Tencan,
Looks like A+ may have closed, but I've thought that before. Their site has been down in the past, but has eventually come back up. They used to be listed on SmartPages, and they're not on there any more, nor are they advertising in the Reader this week, and they almost always have at least one ad. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Sugar Daddy D
10-26-03, 06:15
What a #$%#$ night! I decided to check out the strolls on Western and Ashland. Not much of anything out, I guess it's starting to get too cold. On my last cruise down Ashland, I finally saw a couple of BSW's; one that was a bit on the chunky side but the other was ok. and I say that generously. The ok one gave me, "the look", and being desperate I thought, "what the heck", I went around the block and picked her up. Her name was Teresa and she seemed ok. She was about a 3-4 on my scale, which would probably put her at about a 1-2 on anyone elses scale. I not usually too picky! She made me show her my "ding a ling" as she called it, to see if I was LE. We agreed on 20 for a bbbj, but the minute she starts, she tells me that she doesn't want me to come in her mouth! I hate to say, but that's half the fun for me! I don't care if they swallow, but to pull off right when I'm about to bust a nut is crap.
Now I'm concentrating on trying not to come in her mouth, but that's not too hard as she is giving me the lousiest BJ I've had in a long time. I wasn't even hard and all she was putting in her mouth was the tip! I tried to touch her head and back, but she complained about that. Then I asked if I could touch her ass. That was ok, but only the cheeks... man what a downer! With all these rules, I couldn't even get wood! She suggested that we do half and half, if I had a condom, (of course I do!). But of course she wanted more money. I told her I wasn't in the mood anymore because of the above crap. She said, "now I feel bad"! I pulled up my pants and told her to keep the 20, (I figured it would be too much hassle trying to get anything back anyway). She kept saying how she felt bad but that she didn't like the taste of cum. Quess she's in the wrong biz then!
Next time, I'll make sure I find out what's ok and what's not before I part with any cash.
On the way back home, I spotted another possible BSW, and even though I had somewhat lost the mood, I thought I would go around and check her out. She didn't give me, "the look", so I thought, "fugetaboutit", I was in no mood to find out. I kept my money and will dig into my extensive library of PORN! Ah, self gratification, ain't it grand!
I had some time to kill a couple nights ago, so I decided to try a new place that I saw adveritsing in the Sun-Times. It's B & B Massage on Cermak in Chinatown. When I got there, I went in through the first door of a vestibule. The second door was locked, so I had to be let in. The front of the place is set up like a beauty salon and there were a number of Chinese girls up front talking to one another. The girl at the register asked me, "backrub one hour?" to which I agreed.
I paid the $65 house fee and was led back to a back room with bifold doors. I went in and found the walls did not go all the way to the ceiling - I hate that! Anyway, the woman who led me into the room was probably 40-ish, OK, but nothing to write home about. She instructed me to get undressed and she told me, "I do back first." She left for a little while and came back in. She covered me up with a good-sized bath towel and then set a timer, I'm assuming for 60 minutes. She started with long stokes down my back and my rear, moving the towel down a ways. Unfortunately, she put it back later. On the flip, she covered me up again. She gave my entire front side a pretty thorough massage. She left the room and then came back and put a hot towel over my face. I could hear that she picked up the timer, and right after that it rang. I'm guessing she forced it to the end.
She asked me how I was feeling and then told me that the massage was done. Then she asked me if I wanted any more, so I pointed toward the jewels, and she asked me how much more time I needed. Then she asked "ten minutes?" and I told her that would be good. At that point she told me it would be $70 extra. My guard was down and I didn't bother finding out exactly what that $70 would get me. Then it turns out I only had $80 in $20 bills, so I gave it all to her. Big mistake. I ended up with a mediocre handshake and when I tried to let my hands roam, she backed away. Just goes to show what can happen when the little head is doing the thinking. So between the long drive, high price and mediocre service, I doubt I'll be making a return trip.
Ynot,
No tickee no washee.
You should take a tip from Ratso. He even gets his sw to bark like a dog for him.
All for a reasonable price too. Rasto, my kinky little cumquat.
Stay safe, strap up.
Lady
Ynot -
You could have asked on this board about B & B before making the trip. I'm sorry you had a shitty and costly experience. I had the same experience about a year ago, and I never returned. Most legit Chinese MP's are mediocre, perhaps it's better to stick with KMP's or Chinese Apartment joints.
Hey dudes,
On saturday evening, I was on Cicero avenue near 49th street and met Bobbi. She is a short wsw, mid thirties, red hair (dyed), slender, with a nice ass. Although she was wired, Bobbi speaks wonderful french for a southern gal. Her lesson including tip was thirty bones.
On sunday afternoon, Nina was out on Cicero avenue near 47th street and was picked up before I could meet with her. She is a short, chunky, spanish/irish sw who has long curly dark hair. Nina speaks great slow, deep french.
WARNING! Trouble has returned to the area and her name is "Star". She is a veteran wsw, about 5'5", medium build, name tattooed on neck. She also has very short blonde/white hair. Star is a "rock" star who speaks lousy french and is a major thief.
Play safe, Happy hunting
Member #6131
10-27-03, 13:08
Ynot,
Thanks for the recon and TOFTT. I will steer clear of B&B. I hope Bio-M will make a return one day. Has anyone heard anything about a Bio-M come back?
Human 1000
10-27-03, 17:12
Chester,
I've been unsuccessful shopping around in the Gold Coast area. I've read some of your past reports indicating there is activity in that area - can you give me any tips for finding sw's around there? There are alot of single women walking around the State/Rush area, how do you find the ones that are sw's? I'm not interested in the druggy girls from Cabrini, but the, ahem, higher class, experience.
Thanks.
Ms Lady , Chester and Gant burger Im enjoying your postings.
I am a john from NY thats fascinated with the whole pimp game. I reside in New York city and one ay I want to travel out to Chi town to the United center for a basketball game and then to Madison street.
In New york when I drive around the track I observe the pimps and the way they act. Sometimes I wish I was born in the 1960s and 1970s when pimpin was really in full effect.
Have any of you guys ever met Scorpio or Pimpin Ken or Don Juan in person. I heard Don Juan preaches at a church. Does he preach every sunday.
Do you know any good spots in CHicago where the pimps shop at and buy their clothes.
Do they sell those Stetson dress hats for cheap in chicago and mauri alligator shoes. In New york they see the hats for over 100 bucks.
Alright guys keep it Pi man ya dig.
Bio-M was a short-lived AMP in Mt Prospect.
A + closed?!?! Damn! Just what I was in the mood for.
I know the building was up for sale. $500,000. Man I wish I had money because that area is going to explode in value!!!
Somebody may have snapped it up.
I need to see if I still have the number somewhere - I love that place.
I was in town this weekend visiting friends and relatives and decided to hit the strolls. I cruised 47th, Cicero, Roosevelt, Armitage and saw very little between 10 AM and 2PM on Friday. On my way back south I hit 47h again and saw this blond SW with a HUGE rack. She was walking with a black girl in a super short mini-skirt, but could not get her in my car. She eventually stopped in the taco stand on 47th. I headed back towards Cicero and started heading south when I found Jessica. Cute face, good body, nice rack. Quoted me $50 for french, agreed on $40. Overall great experience. After dropping her off at 48th, I saw like 5 more, I guess things were just starting to pick up. Too bad I had to run. I am from Milwaukee, so if anyone wants info about Brew Town, go ahead and ask.
Carpe Dium
10-28-03, 21:19
Bigggga:
When On Rush Street or Division Street or anywhere on the "Gold Coast "Area, if you want higher quality stuff you have resort to the many escort services they offer there. These services are much higher price then sw but again ...you have to pay for quality.
As far as sw walkers go, they not only come from Cabrini , but from several bust out crack hotels. Such as "The Mark Twain" on Division between Clark and Dearborn. There is also Another Dive at 1121 N. State called the Cedar Hotel. These are the places that your sw's are coming from. Most of these sw's are plagued with a habit and some are even HIV carriers so be careful. It's the Near NorthSide.
Member #2944
10-28-03, 21:59
"Chester,
I've been unsuccessful shopping around in the Gold Coast area. I've read some of your past reports indicating there is activity in that area - can you give me any tips for finding sw's around there? There are alot of single women walking around the State/Rush area, how do you find the ones that are sw's? I'm not interested in the druggy girls from Cabrini, but the, ahem, higher class, experience.
Thanks."
What times / days are you going? Sometimes the cops sweep...Are you walking or driving?
Biggga- I have no idea where to buy pimp clothes.
HAS ANYONE HEARD OF AFF.COM? DOES IT WORK?
aLSO WHERE IS ALL THE ACTION ON 47TH GOING TO?
Member #2944
10-29-03, 03:35
I have a friend, who is 1000x's better looking that I am, try AFF.com as a PAID customer and NEVER got one email or ONE response from any of the girls that he wrote.
Maybe others have had better luck, but I honestly think they post bullshit ads.
TheShadow2
10-29-03, 09:00
AFF is a combination of fake and legitimate ads. I was a paying member for about 3 months, and had sex with 6 women I met from there, still doing one of them off and on. (No pun intended.)
A good rule of thumb is if a women is out of your league in "real life" she is out of your league on AFF. You can spot the fake ads if you use common sense. If it's a picture of some smokin little 20 year old and her ad says she is just dying to have sex with some overweight, average looking older guy, well, think about it. Would she have to pay for an ad on the internet, or could she just walk into any bar and get that? If it's some older women that's not a beauty queen, chances are it's legit.
Warpig2000
10-29-03, 12:10
None spring to mind off hand, but there are quite a few AFF alternatives out there and some I've actually heard have better track records than AFF. I imagine this would be a great thread to somehow port over to the "Amatuers" Special intrest Forum, which is highly underused and could use this sort of topic. http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=263 Used to be able to go to swinger groups on Yahoo when the old 'adult clubs' were listed. Now you almost have to find the club outside of Yahoo to find the site, but it was great then becuase you could look over profiles once you saw a girl post. Had to dig through the straw pile to find a good one, but I scored a few times.
My experience with AFF was crap as well. But then again I'm not really a looker. But a lot of those kinds of things have to do with putting across an intelligent vibe in what you write.
I had better experience with the bondage version of AFF. It's the sister site ALT. You should be able to find a link for it off of AFF.
In 3 months I hooked up with 3 chicks. None of the 3 I would ever think of having a relationship with. All f'd up in the head, and 2 of them were ugly as hell. The third was actually cute. The cute one was curvy - probably 150 or so. The other two were fat - one was probably about 180, to other was short and probably about 300.
But all were submissive and let me do whatever I wanted to do with them over the course of the night. And when I say anything, I really mean ANYTHING. You have to be willing to not be picky, but the experience of reaming the hell out of a chick's mouth while you insult and slap her is mighty bizarre and quite an experience.
There is a whole "community" if you're into that thing. If you are they have social events all the time. For every semi-cute woman there are 40 crazy dogs who are looking for "masters". I didn't waste my time as these people treat this crap like performance art. But it will give you an in to the bondage clubs in Chicago where I guess freaky stuff sometimes happens. Before I had zero knowledge, and I have to admit I learned quite a bit.
It's something like $35 for a 3 month membership. In my opinion pretty cheap. Can't garauntee puss, but it's something different to try out. Lots of fake ads, but much, much more "legit" then AFF.
The only providers on there that I could tell are these professional mistresses. From what I can tell, they smack you around and there is no sexual contact. To each his own I guess. They tend to be hot and into fetishes, but if I can't get off, what's the point? Anyone have different experiences?
Also, anyone have any experiences with providers off of other online, newspaper or telephone "personals". I had good success with Lavalife down in St. Louis (see my posting over there for those guys for a description of my experiences). I've called here in Chicago, and it seems to be about the same - with lots of "Escorts" or women looking for "Generous Males". But I haven't met anyone off of it.
Take advantage of the warm Halloween weekend!
Human 1000
10-29-03, 12:39
"What times / days are you going? Sometimes the cops sweep...Are you walking or driving?"
Chester,
I am driving, and usually between 6-10pm (both weekdays and weekends).
OttoGraham
10-29-03, 12:55
I wanted to point out to everyone the ability to send Private Messages using the software on this site has now been activated. It works well.
However, there is no default "On" setting. You need to physically turn it on by following the instructions on the site.
-Uncle Otto
Please don't forget to donate to www.wsgcharities.com! For every two dollars you contribute between now and November, I will match it with an extra dollar's contribution. Make your Pay Pal or snail-mail contribution by visiting www.wsgcharities.com, and emailing me with your contribution amount and "I'm a friend of Uncle Otto" in the subject thread at "Ottograham@hotmail.com"
Member #6131
10-29-03, 21:18
Oh happy day we now have the private message feature to use. :) Please let me say Thank You, Thank You, Thank You.
And again Thank You!
PussProwler
10-30-03, 11:17
Hello frozen hobbiests,
Heading to Chitown this weekend. I've read back a few weeks and found info only about VIP.
Looking for AMP in or near Arlington Heights for this Sunday. Thanks for your help.
Please a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Messaging system.
PP
Quick question:
Have any of you guys ever shelled out the big time money for a session with a porn star? If so, how much and was it worth it?
Just curious!
Goo
Member #6131
10-30-03, 15:17
I think the PM may not be working. I received an e-mail notification that I had a PM, but when I checked it was empty. I also sent two PM's, and they do not show as being sent.
Member #6131
10-30-03, 20:27
I found that if you change the " Show Messages From:" (or just click the GO button next to this) with the drop down arrow to last day or however far you want to go back your PM's will show. This also needs to be done when tracking or checking sent PM's. For some reason if this field is left in show all messages nothing appeared for me.
Warpig2000
10-30-03, 21:04
Bath, I tried to PM you a test message myself. So far no luck.
I have to give Jackson credit for trying to implement the feature, but it may be in need of tweaking before its ready for prime time.
Member #6131
10-30-03, 22:14
Warpig2000,
Try my previous tip it worked for me and I got your PM.
Hey Theshadow2 can you give me some more info? As example... what did you say in email that got u laid backchannel me thanks
Friday Halloween I saw Traci tonight down 47th street again. Shes a white with brown hair.kinda big nose, butt the body on her is awesome. her body is about a 8. she now lives down kildare, so keep your eye open for her and shes a good pick.i will get some pics of her later see ya happy huntin
I Pickum Up
11-01-03, 01:45
Hey All,
Well I have been out of town latly but from what I have heard alot of girls from 47th got busted. One of my favorites "Mary Ann" I heard got busted and is sitting. Found a diamond in the rutt in Florida I posted about her in the Orlando form. I guess I will get back out on the prowl and report in ASAP.
I found this on the Orlando form and it is funny and true. Check it out:
Picked this up on another city site. I think these rules should apply to all sw's:
It's been slow... so I decided to repost this, all together, in one place.
Rule #1 When I am done, GET OUT OF MY CAR!
Rule #2 See rule #1, just needs to be said twice
Rule #3 If you think you are going to light the pipe in my ride, think again.
Rule #4 If You need a ride at the end and I am feeling gracious enough to bend rule #1, it better be close, and you better know where the hell you are going.
Rule #5 I am not as comfortable as you with my status as a 'john', this means yelling to your your cracker-jack friends out my window will get you no where fast.
Rule #6 I am paying you, at the very least act interested.
Rule #7 Acting like a Jerry Springer guest on crank is not cool, stop freaking out.
Rule #8 I have good eyesight, I don't need you to jump up and down, wave, send up flares, etc. before I pick you up. If I drive by you and pass you up, its becuase A) Not interested B) I'm busy C) You have a face/body that could stop a clock D) You look like Steve Buscemi on glue-bender. make eye contact.. thats all I need and thats all I prefer. I may well drive by a few times, it's all about my comfort level.
Rule #9 If you give me lack luster service, you will compensated accordingly. I mean really, is this why you are doing what your doing, did the formula for success as a waitress truly baffle you?
Rule #10 Act polite, small talk relaxs everyone involved. Small talk about your court date for felony assault doesn't.
Rule #11 Asking me if I am the police is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. Reach over and give me a gentle squeeze, thats the proof (or hey, atleast it works for me.)
Rule #12 You need to supply the condoms, not me. I can't have that shit hanging around my car. I don't bring my own sugar for my coffee at Denny's.
Rule #13 State the way you want me to 'release' before hand...
Rule #14 Wash that funky ass (thanks net pro..good call)
Rule #15 Its my car, don't change the radio stations, adjust the seats or anything that I will have to reset later (or alternately forget to reset and have to answer the questions like 'Who adjusted this seat?')
Rule #16 I'm not sure about anyone else, but I will NEVER pick up a girl whos' pimp/boyfriend/WTF ever is following, lose the dude and we can do business. (If Cameron Diaz was turning tricks in Gastonia and her pimp was with her, I swear I would drive on by...)
Rule #17 Put out the cigarette..... unless you're like me and smoke in which case feel free(to smoke your own)
Rule #18 If you rip me off, I will make it my lifes work to find you and run you over. Lest you forget, you are a street WALKER, I am a street DRIVER, you must see the advantages of my situation.
Rule #19 GET OUT OF MY CAR WHEN I AM DONE!!
Thanks for Virgil1216 for this. I think I will print out a copy and attach it to the passenger side dashboard of my car!
cap10_kirk
11-01-03, 11:59
Wassup, everyone!! This is cap10_kirk of the infamous...
*** DoGG PounD ***
Well, I have a little down time now, so I can add my two cents to this forum. Lets just say that I have a unique vantage point to providers that are outside of your radar.
Basically, I'm just checking in to say Hey.
I've read some of the reviews of the DoGG PounD, and I am glad to see that they have been positive. My goal was to pair BUCK ASS WILD girls, with guys who love them. And to have them in a safe, comfortable enviroment, so EVERYBODY can have a good time. I think its safe to say that I accomplished that goal.
I'll be checking in with my reports.
Kirk, out.
Kirk, I think it was reported here that the dogg pound was busted a few weeks back...can you give us any info on that?
Member #6131
11-01-03, 14:45
Yes Kirk,
I think many of us are wanting to know the status of the DoGG PounD? Please tell us what's going on or off?
Bath
Member #2944
11-01-03, 20:13
Captain Kirk,
I've been to your place a few times. Please get some white girls...
I think I"ve over seen one over the few times I was there, and she was butt ugly!
Hey Guys,
Today on 47th street about 9:00 am saw a strung out blond sw, on the corner of kilpatrick.
Got back to the same area about 15 min later and saw same sw walking with a black guy carrying a gas can. Go figure.
Stay safe, strap up.
Ms Lady
Ratso here.
Checked out the North Ave club scene (Kingsbury/Weed,etc) Sat night (Sun morn actually). Lots of top-notch girls out from 3-4:30am. They disappeared into vapor almost simultaneously at about 5am, coincidentally as the blue&whites mounted a charge with about 6-7 cruisers and 2-3 paddy's. I waited too long to select a lucky girl, so was little-head disappointed when they all disappeared. Fortunately, I spotted some idiot parked with a girl in an absolutely stupid place right at corner of Blackhawk & Dayton, where all the cops know to look. They had OBVIOUSLY just finished their business and he was pulling out (parking spot, not her), so I followed them from a distance waiting to see if she got out. After several block circles, it was clear that she had detected the no-girls-out danger and wasn't getting out of the guys car just yet (found out later that she was indeed cellphoning her industry-friends for a car pickup), so I managed to pull alongside at a stoplight, she looked over, I smiled, she rolled the window down and asked me the "wanna date" question, I said yes (turned out she was quite cute and built.... I got lucky here), and she switched cars at the light after checking for coppers. $100 for 1/2&1/2 and she did a good job. I don't like paying that much, generally, for BSW's, but she was very pretty and surprisingly service-oriented! "Destiny". Dropper her at the BP on Wells & Ontario (I think that's the corner) later, where she intended to continue her dickhunt for another "hour or two"!
So about 6am the batteries are starting to recharge and I'm now cruising the Armitage-Cicero-North-Kedzie circle. Pickup "Nicole" near Keeler & Armitage, another BSW.... not top-shelf like Destiny, but fair nonetheless. Another 1/2 &1/2, this time for $30 + $5 tip.
Now I'm tired and start heading west towards my suburban home, but taking the Madison route (not 290) as I'm in no hurry and like to observe the action along the way, making mental notes about sightings for later reference (you know, for pussy). Swing north on Central to Corcoran (I think that's the name of the street running on south side of L-tracks between Central and Austin), take it west towards Austin and spot a really cute bsw with a great little body. Am thinking, "can I do a 3rd one.... is there enough steam left in the engine?".... stared just a bit too long at her cute face & butt (she had a tight-fitting set of leopard skin pants on) and detected the little guy stirring around, so the answer was YES! Picked up "Kim" and got another very nice 1/2&1/2 again about 7:30am. Particularly for that neighborhood, she was very cute and built, and really quite sweet.
I'm almost embarrassed to admit 3 suck-n-fucks in a 3-hour period, sounds like some kind of obsession.... aw, it is, I love pussy from cute girls.... that's why we're on this board isn't it?
Oh - before I sign off.... visited Trice during the week ( www.geocities.com/shonpowell ), and she's gotten a bit hotter.... here's how - she lost just a little bit of weight. She's always been, very slightly, on the "pleasingly curvy" side, and still is very curvy.... honestly one of the best buns I've ever had the pleasure of making a wiener sandwich outa.... but having lost literally only 7-8 lbs has somehow just nicely tucked her a bit in all the right places and damn she looks so good! Still holding a mental image of her walking away from the bed, and her 'from-behind, walk-away' profile is absolutely incredible. btw - find the invisible g-spot just below one of her little hearts to get a special treat. She's ALWAYS smilin.... love that girl.
Ratso
Sugar Daddy D
11-02-03, 16:07
Ratso,
You're either still a young man, or you never miss your daily dose of, "vitamin V". Three times in 3 hours? Those days are but a faint memory for me now! I'm glad I wasn't into the hobby when I had drive like that, I'd have gone broke!
Happy hunting.
Member #2944
11-02-03, 19:24
Ratso -
No offense, but you sound like a hawker for Sharice / Maurice.
If you like the girl, great. But do you have to post about her so much?
Maybe you are Sharice?
JohnnyBeBad
11-02-03, 19:44
RAT-We were driving some of the same streets early this morning.I popped a pill and went out looking for any regular I could find.Up and down Cicero,Madison,Pulaski,16th St.and even went over by Central and Lake.After coming up short,I was going to do one more loop.Going east on Madsion from Kostner,I saw this b/sw- tight short skirt with gorgeous legs and the bubble ass I like.Pulled over and she got right in.Said name was Jean and she smelled great.Friendly and said she rarely comes out but needed money for kids.Looked 30ish.Okay,who knows,but she sure didn't look or act like a sw with a drug habit.Ended up at the J.C.Countryside.Got the four hour gig and used all of it.She only wanted 60.After getting a superior BBBJ and then getting two more long nuts,I ended up giving her 100.Being between those legs for a couple hours was worth more.She also scrubbed my back during a long hot shower.Then we stopped for breakfast at Blueberry Hill in LaGrange.Excellent way to start out this month.
Human 1000
11-02-03, 22:55
Chester,
I am driving, and usually between 6-10pm (both weekdays and weekends).
In case you forgot what I was asking about, I am attaching the earlier converstaion below.
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"Chester,
I've been unsuccessful shopping around in the Gold Coast area. I've read some of your past reports indicating there is activity in that area - can you give me any tips for finding sw's around there? There are alot of single women walking around the State/Rush area, how do you find the ones that are sw's? I'm not interested in the druggy girls from Cabrini, but the, ahem, higher class, experience.
Thanks."
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"What times / days are you going? Sometimes the cops sweep...Are you walking or driving?"
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Ratso -
I agree with Chester, why DO you post about her so much? I tried her about 6 months ago, and IMHO, I didn't think she was that hot.
Ratso here.
Reply to note from Chester:
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Ratso -
No offense, but you sound like a hawker for Sharice / Maurice.
If you like the girl, great. But do you have to post about her so much?
Maybe you are Sharice?
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Please Chester.... we've been there on the "you are Sharice" stupidity.... and you know it. Maurice, eh.... no offense, but you're getting a bit jaded in your, um, old age? Here's the way to solve the mystery.... go to her webpage and find the invisible hotlink (ok, its just below the top left heart).... it'll give you some definitive proof she's female. Truth is that you don't really need that though.... enough other posters here have tried her out, not to mention the numerous lurkers, and they've reported finding a vagina too. And you know that too.... so why do you persist with the bullshit.... are you being silly just to drum up some conversation? lol.
So I just checked.... the last time I even mentioned Sharice's name was on 9/19.... 6 weeks ago.... I'd say I haven't exactly overloaded the board with comments about her.
So in that board search I see that there was another thread about her.... I wasn't in on that one dude. No offense, but did she turn you down recently or something?
LOL.... no hard feelings here.... and certainly no offense intended.
Ratso
Hi JohnnyBeBad,
Love your name dude. Was wondering if you might have gotten a number for Jean.... she sounds fun! If you did, and wouldn't mind sharing it, try sending me a pm.... am curious to see if this stuff works anyway.
Ratso
Squat? I think you're an imposter.... in fact, based on your comments, I don't think you know Squat.
6 months ago she hadn't had the sex change operation.... I'm sorry to say that you may have made it with a guy. Aw, just kidding.... no offense.... everybody is entitled to their opinion.
Happy hunting boys (and Chester).
Lol.
Geezes - almost forgot.... saw two WSW's a couple blocks north of Damen & Clybourn today, on Damen.... one somewhat cute, the other looked like she was crack starved. Cute one gone by the time I got turned around.... passed on crackho.... anybody know if this is this a common pickup point?
Ratso
JohnSmi108
11-03-03, 00:49
Gentlemen,
I didnt think there'd be any girls out yesterday. But I picked up a hispanic sw at around 11pm near the Bugrer King by North/California. She'd been walking east on North from Kedzie and coulnd't tell if she was a working girl or not because she wasnt making oo many eye contact.
She was wearing a blue coat and in blue jeans and looked like a local girl going to the store. She was around 5'5", long, blondeish, curly hair, parted in the middle and tied back. She wasnt fat, but had a stocky build and later found out she had a couple kids, which explained her pouch, which I saw later. She had a little pretty face, which I'd rate a 6, maybe a 7 with some makeup and loss some baby fat.
She got in the car, did the "cop feel" check, and told me her name was Marie (not the Marie/Susie that ditched me before). She wanted $25 for a BJ. I had to supply the condom. But I got her for $20. We went to a place she had, which I was hesitant about but definately looked safe from any riff raff activities.
I'm glad I only paid $20 because she was a rusher. I had to coax her into lifting her top to see her droopy mommy boobs and pouch and commented about guys always wanted her to do that. She did a few minutes with her mouth and then finished me off with her had with a couple of "hurry up" remarks.
I dropped her off by the Walgreens parking lot by North/Western. She told me to look out for her and she was usually out there from 2pm and on. I didnt bother to ask for a contact number because I didnt think she was worth another try.
stay safe, John Smith
P.S. I've never had FS in my compact car before because it seems too risky to me being so open and all. But just out of curiosity, can any verterans of this activity in a car give any tips of best positions, or best place in the car i.e. back seat, passagerseat,etc. TIA.
Hi Ratso,
Regarding Damen & Clybourn I have gotten lucky around 6:00AM on Fridays and Saturdays. It seems LE has a shift change and the crack ho's come out from the project's on Diversey. Occasionally have found some nice white sw's that were not crack ho's but this has been rare. Did find a white sw at about 9:00pm on a week night about 6 months ago. What time of the day did you spot the sw's? I think Happy Gardner cruises this area in his Yugo? Maybe he can contribute?
Ratso,
Yeah, that corner of Damen & George, just north of Clybourn is a common pickup point. Bigguy is right, 6am is a good time. I occasionally see SW's there from 4-6am. I don't usually partake here though...the WSW's there are mostly crackheads, and I usually pass on the BSW's unless she's exceptionally cute and petite.
On rare occassions, there is a WSW that sits on the busstop bench on Damen and Belmont between 10pm-1am. She's a brunette with horn rimmed glasses and buttass ugly. She has a speech impediment, I think maybe she's a harelip. I have not been with her for a few years, but I've seen her sitting on her bench a couple times in the last year.
She has a pleasant personality, although her speech impediment and her ugly face makes it hard to enjoy her company. But all that is forgotten once she puts er mouth on lil' elvis. Ugly as she is, I have to admit she's given me some of the best bbbj's I've ever had. She always took her time. She had a soft, slow, and relaxing technique and she took all of me in (though I admit to not being the most endowed). She even swallowed.
JohnSmi108,
I've done FS in both a Geo Prism and a VW Jetta. I'm not very tall (5'8") and I don't pick up the big gals. Every time I've done it, it has always been the missionary position on the front passenger seat with the seat reclining and slid all the way back. I exercise regularly, and stretch often, so maneuvering on top of the girl hasn't been a problem. I used to conduct business with a HSW who was a tiny little thing, maybe 4'10". I used to let her climb on to my lap in the driver's seat.
Happy hunting,
Zoomie
P.S. I've peeked at Sharice's website and I'm with Chester on this one. Maurice? LMAO!!!
Gentlemen,
Sometimes an event, maybe insignificant to some, can make a person reevaluate his priorities. Just such an event happened to me this weekend. While it's been a heck of a ride in this hobby, it's time for me to bow out. I need to get my priorities back in order, and this hobby isn't exactly at the top of my list. I need to use the resources at my disposal to help others in need and not waste them on my own selfish desires. I'll miss the camaraderie, and I can't say that parts of me won't miss the hobby, but it's the right thing to do. Take care and stay safe guys and girls.
YNot
Ynot,
Many have learned from you, your contributions have helped me in many ways. THANK YOU. You have made the WSG a great forum.
You are and will always be a class act who will be missed. I wish you all the best. Take care, my brother!
Drove through Maywood around noon today and there was absolutely nothing. I really needed a quickie today too.
Called one of the A+ numbers and got only an answering
machine.
Found another old number ( for four hands) and got an
answer. I asked if this was A+ - they said yes but they
werent doing massages right now. Didnt get a chance to ask
anymore
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