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Yet Another Guy

06-16-03, 14:57

Originally posted by Lou
Ms Michele,

What's wrong with this lady? Read a lot of negative stuff about her. Her photos don't look bad. Is it her attitude? This is a very PHYSICALLY attractive woman. Great legs, great smile, great breasts, nice ass...I mean, physically, this woman IS put together.

On the negative side...where shall I begin...

The WORST thing is: She keeps personal information on clients, and publicly outed one last fall on Big Doggie. That alone should scare the crap out of you.

Other problems:

1) She has a hair trigger temper that goes off at the smallest perceived slight.
2) She's as sophisticated as Boones Farm greenapple wine. You've found more sophisticated girls working a corner, if you've been doing the cruise for more than 6 months.
3) She bills herself as 29, when in reality she's closer to 40. I personally prefer more mature women - I hate being deceived.
4) She's a homophobe, she would no more touch another woman as she'd do an untranslated French lesson. She's deceiving you when she offers 2 girl shows. Yes, 2 girls might show, but there is no show if they do.
5) Her ideas on safety are...I'm not sure how to describe them. Misguided, maybe? IF you like her playing cowgirl, well, then you're fine. Anything else is verboten. No kissing. No DATY. No missionary. No doggie. No...hell, you have two options. Choose one of those. Translated French and Cowgirl. In that order of operation.

Lou

06-19-03, 22:34

Brooke from Champaign area,

Another hobbiest was kind enough to send me this link on Brooke. Her photos sure make her look like a good choice.

About ready to take one for the team!!

http://www.brooke.4t.com

Jannisary

06-19-03, 22:52

Brooke -- she's great!

Lou

06-20-03, 23:27

Originally posted by jannisary
Brooke -- she's great!

Glad you like Brooke but could you elaborate. What are her best qualities. Do you recommend her? Please give a little detail to our meeting with Brooke.

Jannisary

06-21-03, 03:50

Guess i'm not much of a detail person. Unlike what I've heard of Michelle, Brooke seems trustworthy and level headed. My experience with here was good and I'll probably try to get together with her again in the future. I was nervous when I first met her, because thats just how i am, but she was able to put me at ease and relax me quite well. She is attractive and there was just something about her that I found very sexy. We talked some, got comfortable, she gave a great quick massage which progressed to a very good time.

Jannisary

06-21-03, 03:57

YetAnotherGuy... you regularly bash michelle on TBD and now here on this forum too. Can you add any positive information about the central illinois scene or just negatives?
I'm relatively new to this hobby but surely there is some good ones in the C/U area so why always stress the negative?

Ci-Traveler

06-21-03, 15:14

Originally posted by twinkylikker
Avoid Ms Micheles listed at chicago-exotics - go see her comments in the Other Illinois section of TBD and you'll see why she's one to avoid. Nuff said on that topic.

Previously, before easing out of the hobby (notice I still enjoy reading the board though!)I had been interested in meeting with Ms. Micheles, and I contacted her. She wanted to set up an all inclusive meeting for $150 - but later she said that you had to pay an extra $50 for the room. I didn't bite. A couple of weeks later, she ran a June special and emailed me to tell me that she was offering $200 all inclusive - and again - it was $50 more for the room. We discussed what "all inclusive" means - and she had difficulty with that - but eventually, she dropped her price to $150 plus the room. I didn't bite.

When I read the above reports - I copied just the words - not the contributors or this website - to her email. In fairness - since people are posting against her here - she should be allowed to respond. So I'm posting her responses (2) - although they don't address the specific comments that she read about herself. By the way - I'm glad I steered clear - she seems a bit odd........

here are her responses:

1. Where is this chat forum at? I do get upset when people put me down from the time I came on *********, they tell nothing but lies about me. This has been going on for months, and I'm sick and tired of it really tired. If you met me in person you would think different of me. I'm nothing what people say about me on the boards, if you have any questions please feel free to call me. Michele 217-255-5405

And then within minutes and with no responses from me on the first:

2. Thanks for the information, they can talk all they want about me it's just talk. You can't believe everthing that goes on indside these boards. Just because I don't do some things, doesn't mean I don't give good service. This crap has been going on for a long time, they have never given me a chance from the time I came on the internet. Their lies, will catch up with them one day and it will come around to them. I can sit here and bad mouth all these assholes who talk about me, but I wont. I'm better then that, I have better things to do besides talking about other people. When people gossip about others, their life must be boring, if thats all that have to do is sit back and talk about other's. They need to find something constructive to do besides bashing people all the time.

I'm not going away, I'll be here for a while and wont let people chase me off from their stupidity and their lies and BS games they play. They can sit behind a keyboard and talk about me, let them come face to face to say it but they wont. I don't come on the boards and bash people, you need to go back and scroll down and read some of *********. I don't have to say anything to anmyone, they come out of the blue and bash me for no reason. Their
childish and need to grow and learn how to be an adult. You can decide for yourself who you beleive me or them, if not thats ok I understand. Thanks for taking time to read this Michele.
xoxxoxo

I hope this helps bring more to the conversation about Ms. Micheles......

All the best,
ci-traveler

Lou

06-22-03, 23:57

About Brooke

Jannisary email me got some questions about Brooke.

lexington18@hotmail.com

Yet Another Guy

06-28-03, 08:53

Originally posted by jannisary
YetAnotherGuy... you regularly bash michelle on TBD and now here on this forum too. Can you add any positive information about the central illinois scene or just negatives?

I'm relatively new to this hobby but surely there is some good ones in the C/U area so why always stress the negative? Well, you aren't really quite "new" to the scene now, are you janissary?

And yes, I do contribute positive information about what's going on. Here's a recap of prior central Illinois providers I've dealt with AND posted about in various forums.

Brooke - I absolutely concur with other posters about her, she's a very attractive LADY, highly intelligent and articulate, no BS, but uses extreme caution in her dealings.

Sun and Candy at Hawaiian - both excellent, I'd give Sun an overall 8.5 and Candy 10's in all categories.

Kellie is BACK you guys, if you have the good fortune to pass her screening...wow. Have fun!

And if you're silly enough to give your personal information to Michelle, Mr. Janissary (for those of you not familiar with the word "jannisary" I really suggest you look it up), then go for it. I hope she never perceives you as a threat of any kind though, you will definitely live to regret it.

Jannisary

06-29-03, 03:21

YetAnotherGuy: I don't want to start some juvenile flame war. My point was that I see no purpose in continually being negative and bashing someone over and over and over again. Based on the information I have, would I involve myself with Michelle? No I would not, but I won't continually attack her either. As far as my level of experience in this hobby, I do feel that I'm relatively new to this. Especially when compared to guys around here who have been continually active in this pursuit for years and years, hell some have probably been at it for decades. My scattered activities over the past few years pale in comparsion to many of those who frequent this forum. And as to what janissary, jannisary, or janizary means.....that depends upon its historical context now doesn't it?

Yet Another Guy

08-10-03, 08:57

First a SW report. Was driving to my appointment to meet Olivia out of Indy who was doing a tour over here (GOD is that woman hot) and saw what had to be one of the most truly skanky WSW's imaginable working near the corner of Bradley and Neil. Thankfully I'd skipped breakfast.

Olivia more than made up for that though, with her beauty, attitude, and treatment. Too bad for those of you who missed her, but I imagine she'll be back in a couple of months.

Lou

08-27-03, 23:42

Saw this bsw near gas station next to I74 in Champaign. Didn't get a chance to talk to her. Anyone know who she is?

TheShadow2

08-28-03, 08:05

Lou,

This "bsw" was driving a car? Or did she stop and pump someones gas for them? What makes you think she was a bsw?

Ci-Traveler

08-28-03, 08:30

Originally posted by TheShadow2
Lou,
This "bsw" was driving a car?
Or did she stop and pump someones gas for them?
What makes you think she was a bsw? I wouldn't give too much credibility to Lou's posts. If you go back through what he posts, most of it is questions. He posts for other cities too - just look for the paperclip designating an attachment. He likes to post pictures of girls who aren't working but look the part - and ask if anyone knows who they are or has information. He has also posted website addresses of escorts - promising to take one for the team but failing to follow through.

Lou is not a reliable source of anything, so I would not waste your time asking for clarification of a post he makes.

ci-traveler

Sent

08-29-03, 01:01

oh shit! Lou!
What planet you on, i can count on one hand how many SW's have a car that i know...lol.

Magik

08-29-03, 01:10

I thought I would check-out the Champaign board just to see the picture; with so few posts I thought it would be easy to find. This stuff is really funny though! I've asked a lot of working girls to do a lot of odd things, but I've never paid them to pump my gas!

That one was really great!

Yet Another Guy

08-29-03, 07:24

Originally posted by Lou
Saw this bsw near gas station next to I74 in Champaign. Didn't get a chance to talk to her. Anyone know who she is? So...because she's wearing short shorts, she's a SW?

Seem more like someone has a voyeuristic tendency.

Being pretty familiar with the gas stations along I74, I have tried and tried to figure out which one this picture might have been taken at, taking into account the background scenery, and there are only 2 with any sort of foilage around them that I can think of. Where did you say you took this, again?

For some INFO,

The police heavily patrol the area roughly bounded by Bradley on the north, State on the west, Washington on the south, and Neil on the east and hassle ANY woman they even remotely suspect is a SW. The neighborhood is out with vidcams (albeit less vigilently than when this effort first started 3 years ago), but if you take a good look around, you'll still see cameras mounted in windows aimed at intersections around there.

Market Street is a more likely location for SW's, although the police heavily patrol this area as well primarily due to the heavy drug activity and the presence at the north end of a large employer screaming for police presence. The park between Market and Neil one block south of Bradley occasionally will see SW's there.

Once in awhile, you'll see one or two strolling Cunningham north of University, but use EXTREME caution if they want to take you back to a room at either of the hotels near that intersection, I'd give you 50-50 odds of being rolled by her pimp.

TheShadow2

08-29-03, 08:48

Lou,
After your report, I got renewed interest in the street scene in Champaign. Cruised around and I'm happy to report another sighting. Saw a pretty hot wsw and her bsw friend in front of the McDonalds, but some john was already talking with them. I got a picture of them though, anyone got any info on these two?

Yet Another Guy

08-31-03, 13:47

Originally posted by Lou
Mc Donald workers are great providers. Took this one for the team but since I'm not creadible can't tell you anything about her except she's fantastic!!!

You guys are so serious. Sure all your posts are accurate. I have to agree, Brooke is VERY hot visually and physically.

Yet Another Guy

08-31-03, 13:52

More info on Brooke

She's tallish, I'd guess around 5'9" and in heels roughly close to 6'. Great physique, very well toned, delicious tan. After market headlights are well installed.

All activities are covered, but delivered with enthusiasm and skill. No kissing.

This is a class act guys

http://brooke.4t.com

Lou

08-31-03, 23:12

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Yet Another Guy

09-01-03, 12:52

Took one for the team with an escort named Samantha, formerly worked for one of the local Champaign agencies until she relocated. Was back in the area recently, and contacted me to see if I was still interested.

Well, this young lady is HOT, as in one hell of a nice physique and an interesting personality. Her rule book though made me think like I was entering an IRS audit. And the one cup rule was strictly enforced.

Felt taken when she left, that's for sure. Should have KNOWN not to let the little head think for me.

Jannisary

09-01-03, 14:44

Nice picture Lou, hope you asked her permission before you posted it. Brooke is one hot lady though isn't she. But lets not forget guys, just because we can post pictures doesn't mean it is always a good idea.

Bee Sure Man

09-20-03, 23:43

Does anyone have any experience with places which advertise in the Thrifty Nickle? I called a couple of the places and was told they were located in Bondville. Where is Bondville?

Ralph

09-24-03, 16:18

Bondville is a wide spot in the road with about 30 or 40 houses and a trailer court that is about 5 miles west of Champiagn if you head out of town on IL- Rt 10 (Springfield Ave)

Yet Another Guy

10-03-03, 12:16

Bondville? Looks like I need to find a Nickel lying around. Got any further details?

Panama Red

10-21-03, 14:47

Hey guys,

A bit more info on Bondville. Was chatting with her with email and she sent me directions and some pics. Very cute. Her email is madamliu_il@yahoo.com Anyone had session yet?

Alan88

11-14-03, 23:36

Did anyone ever follow through on Madam Liu in Bondville? I'll be visiting the Champaign area soon and was thinking of giving it a try. Feel free to send a private message if you like. Al

Overhead Rod

12-02-03, 08:23

Concerning Madam Liu, I had sent her an email, got the full description of services back along with the pictures.

I tried to book a couple of appointments, outside of her normal hours which she said she could accomodate. She ended up cancelling both times. But she did have the courtesy to do it the day before the appoinments.

She did dodge the following two questions - #1what country the picture on the boat was taken, #2 - what was the siginificance of the Madam Liu name, if her name is really Selena.

Should we be concerned, or am I just being overparanoid?

OR

Bee Sure Man

12-13-03, 20:08

Recently I saw Candi at Joe-Jin on Georgetown Road south of Danville. Had nice table shower with hear and the sauna followed by the session. She gqve medicore massage followed by decent FS. Cost was $1.4 after house fee.

Joe-Jin is decent Amp but has no kind of private parking and and usually it is hard to see a specific provider since they are reluctant to provide information and as typical in Amps the girls seem rotate every few months.

TheShadow2

12-14-03, 15:00

I have been to Joe Jin twice, both times was able to get FS for $ over house fee. It was the same girl both times, and a good experience, but she is no longer there. The parking sucks, but what I would do is park across the street out of view of the hundreds of cars that go down that busy road, and just run across the street when it slowed down a little. But then, I'm paranoid too...

Binkly

12-31-03, 12:57

Hey,

I am new to champaign and this forum. I have been cruising neil and prospect looking for the girls but there seem to be none in town.

Any one know any good provider (apart from brooke as i have been with her).

Yet Another Guy

01-04-04, 01:47

Binkly,

You're going to have some trouble on Neil itself, WAY too heavily cruised by LE. Try the neighborhood NE of the Neil/Bradley intersection over to Market, and just one block west of Neil, too. BE CAREFUL, that neighborhood is a warren of crack houses and other verminous behavior.

Binkly

01-13-04, 21:54

Hi ,

I came across an escort agency with the following telephone number on yahoo.

1-888-374-7771

The claim to operate in champaign. Does anyone know of their existence or is this a new sting operation?

Binkly

Bee Sure Man

01-18-04, 11:00

Recently stoppped at Jo-Jin and had nice session with attractive lady named Bobbi. She was about 5'7, slim and provided FS seesion for $1.4. She war fairly aggressive at trying to upgrade service and attract maximum $$ from you, but I had excellent session with her.

The nice thing about AMPs are you always know what to expect and the ladies there most always do a nice shop of taking care of you. They are likely to help you with your coat, shoes, socks, etc. and tend to give you a better massage as well and in general treat you royally. Similar treatment usually is not provided at American places and service can vary widely by provider.

BSM

Rafto Fash

01-30-04, 10:24

Binkly,

Concerning the number in Champaign that you had a question about. I had experiences with two of their ladies. They are not FS, but HJ and various forms of BJ only. I hope this helps.

Yet Another Guy

03-11-04, 02:50

There's a WILD black gal named DeeDee who occasionally strolls up Market north of Bradley. VERY enthusiastic BBJ with a manual finish, but definitely the enthusiasm level is high and worth the $.30. Easy to spot, she's long legged and usually walks with a decided bounce to her step. Give her face a 7, but the body is a definite 8.5.

Voodoo Chile

03-30-04, 22:54

Gentlemen,

First post for a rookie. I have been in this hobby for only a few months and am having a great time. This forum is fantastic. Thanks Jackson, and thanks to you local guys for your posts. So far I have been to all the nearby places at least once (Hawaiian, Joejin and the funky place down the street, Tokyo, Kiku, Attica, Purple Shack), as well as several trips to Peking.

Just wanted to alert you guys to some new blood at Joejin Spa, goes by the name of Mimi. About 5'6", maybe 25 yo, slender, long hair, pretty face and great body. Very sweet personality and great attitude - bored and horny! Fairly quiet and talks with a very soft voice. Said she has only been in town for a few days, but I think she said she had worked there before.

Gave a very nice washdown, with lots of attention to Mr. Johnson - even gave him a kiss on the dryoff. Fair massage, not great but OK. Toward the end she got naked and began rubbing her very nice breasts all over me. No Asian, however. After the rollover, Mimi began kissing my chest and then sucked on my nipples, which felt pretty good. She then went right for Mr. Johnson and really gave him some loving. Began with kissing and licking the shaft, then on to the balls, with lots more of the same there. This went on for a long time (for an AMP anyway), at least 10 minutes, before she slipped on a hat and began a nice bj, displaying pretty good technique. After a few minutes more we switched positions. After giving her breasts some treatment, I began kissing my way down to the Y, and asked if DATY was OK (it was). I don't normally do this with providers, but after the treatment she gave me, I sort of felt obligated (OK, I admit, I could not wait to get my face down there). Mimi's pussy is partially shaven, and very sweet. Did DATY for 10-15 minutes, and she was very into it (at least one climax). Finished off with mish. Pretty tight pussy, and just before climax she wrapped her legs around me, forcing Mr. Johnson in deep. Very nice!

Mimi ranks among the best I have had so far, even better than Candy at Hawaiian. Paid 1.6 for tip, although I think she would have taken less. In previous trip to Joejin with another girl, got into major upsell hassle. Not with Mimi, I just put tip on table and no problem. No rush treatment, even though the place was beginning to get busy. I will definitely go back!

Voodoo Chile

Mike Smythe

05-06-04, 12:27

Made an appointment with Brooke, and as previous reports mentioned, she is very conversational, good looking, and it was a satisfying session.

I also drove over to Joe jin's. They were busy and I got "Ruby," who was new from Chicago and was tired and not enthusiastic at all.

Peter_Girth

05-08-04, 11:37

>Made an appointment with Brooke, and as previous reports mentioned

Read this article before providing anything even remotely like the type and amount of information this woman is asking for:

http://www.nbc5.com/news/3274220/detail.html?z=dp&dpswid=2265994&dppid=65172

Think with the big head, not the little one.

Jannisary

05-09-04, 02:14

Brooke is well reviewed and a class act. Yes, she does ask for a lot of information in order to do screening and yes it is a bit of a risk for a hobbyist to give out such information but there is a risk in just about everything we do in life. This is especially true regarding this particular activity. At first I was a bit reluctant to give out the requested information to Brooke but after a bit of thought I decided it was worth the risk. I wonder why you are trying to connect Brooke to the incident cited in the news report. All the escorts I've dealt with have at the very least asked for basic identifying information which possible could be used to blackmail me, but if I was really concerned about that I would not partake in these activities.

RimTrip

05-10-04, 00:24

While concern could be expressed for some providers who ask for a lot of info, as jannisary says below, that should not be the case for Brooke. She is a well-respected provider, known by many of my acquaintences, who have never once been wary of her methods, once you know her. Obviously, the questions are to protect herself - and in the process, she shows you how little likelihood she has of getting caught in a future compromising situation.

Yet Another Guy

05-11-04, 11:03

I'll chime in on the Brooke thread as well.

Brooke is NOT involved in any scams or schemes. She's explained in some detail why she's involved - partially monetary of course, but the OTHER reasons are MUCH more interesting. And boy, are those other reasons fun ;)

The personal details she gets the FIRST TIME ONLY is to give her some assurance that HER risk is minimalized.

Brooke is an educated, high class LADY, not an extortionist like the one in the news article. My guess is because of the other gal's high profile crimes in the past that she got hauled in. I'd hate to have had my DNA waiting around there for that bust, though!

Voodoo Chile

05-12-04, 20:28

Gentlemen,

Stopped in at JoeJin last night and met Candy. She is new to the area and will be going back to Mt. Prospect soon. Offered two cups for $$. First time I ever got such an offer at an AMP. Did not have the bucks, so I just stayed for one. She is not great to look at, but OK. Good attitude, however. Left happy, relieved and satisified.

Voodoo

Jimmy

06-03-04, 18:00

Has anyone tried the massage places advertised in the Nickle? One is "massage by Stacey" and the other has three girls at the same phone number both have late hours. Anyone?

Yet Another Guy

06-12-04, 11:44

Hey Jimmy,

I've tried repeatedly to get ahold of Stacey, to no avail. Always get voice mail and never a return call. Buddy of mine saw her awhile back (8 months, maybe?) and had a good time - but it took repeated attempts to get a return call for him, too.

Did finally meet with Madame Liu. Interesting young woman, a bit quirky but fun. Cute Chinese-American with an interesting way of speaking French. She is strictly all hands on - meaning, she has her hands on YOU and you mainly keep your hands to yourself. FS not available, but the price point at $.80 was worth it.

Member #2109

06-25-04, 09:25

I have had an outing with Brooke and found her to be the best bang-for- the-buck in central IL. She was attractive and energetic.

Play12

07-14-04, 15:34

Hello fellow mongers,

I just want to say that I have been a long time monger but I am new to the board. I have been disappointed that no one has posted about sw in champaign and danville. It is alive and well. I had an experience with a bsw in champaign named Dee, she is about a 5 on the scale. We did the cop check and it was on from there. It's funny how these sw start out with such a high price then come down so quickly. She initially told me $50 for fs, and I told her that is too high. I told her I had $15 and she agreed( I was obviously lying) lol.

I took her back to my place and did the deed. She started off with a ok bbbj, and then we went to missionary she stated she doesn't usually do full service(yeah right) although her kitty was pretty tight for a sw. All in all it was a good session lasted about 20 min. You can find her around the market and bradley street area. Usually in the morning or at night. This was about 2 weeks ago.

Play12

07-14-04, 15:37

Went out stolling Monday night and counted a total of 8 confirmed sw ranging from 2 to 6. Didn't pick anyone up cause I was a little tired, just had got back in from out of town. Champaign is alive and well with sw just have to be patient.

Play12

07-14-04, 15:42

I have a post for Danville, did a stroll around 11pm on 7-6 and met up with Destiny a bsw about a 7 small tits, but a very nice ass. Pick her up on Robinson street by some empty apartments. We went to a place that I like to go and did mish and doggie for about 15 minuted until I exploded. She is very flexible and very good. All for the price of a jackson. I have had her several times and its even better when you have a bed to take her to. She gave me her number. But will only give out to regular posters. I don't want this one to get caught up in no bs with LE.

Yet Another Guy

07-16-04, 04:09

Hey Play12

Was that Dee, or DeeDee?

I've seen DeeDee off and on for a couple of years, when she can actually be found, which is usually on Market or Bradley. She gives out digits, which usually go dead within a couple of weeks every time. Sometimes she has a place, sometimes she doesn't. DeeDee I'd rate about an 8 on the scale, great legs and ass, small but nice up top. Nice BBJ, but no CIM. Doesn't sound like HER to turn down FS, the gal is a bit on the freaky side ;)

is the Dee you're talking about an older gal, late 30s or so? if it is, I'd concur on the looks and service. Great BBJCIM, FS a bit rough but fun.

Use CAUTION fellas with a very busty bsw out there, she's a pickpocket and got a buddy's wallet about a month back. She's pretty loud and obvious and is usually out in the daylight hours.

Stan Hammer

07-16-04, 15:58

I saw the post for Danville and I'd thought I'd throw out some feelers. I remember some old strip clubs that were in Westville/Danville area that you could get extras at. One was called the Penny Bar. Are these places still around and if so can any one give a reccomendation?

Play12

07-17-04, 22:34

I did the stroll very late Thursday night and came across Cynthia around the Market and Bradley street area. She is a bsw about a 8 on the scale. She is short with a very nice ass and small tits. She was surprisingly attractive, If she wasn't a sw I would actually date this one. Took her to a secluded area and got fs for $15, she says she normally charges $20 but said what the hell. I would recommend her, very friendly and didn't rush me and gave me her number. I will see if its ok to give out.

On the question of which Dee I don't think it's the DeeDee that was posted earlier, I think this might be the bsw you said to beware of picking your pockets she is very top heavy. I didn't have any problems with her, then again I don't leave things around that would tempt them either. Fellows you have to be wise about what you leave out, it could come back to haunt you later. Good luck and be safe, I am out of here.

Yet Another Guy

07-18-04, 18:38

The Penny Bar isn't around any more (at least with the fun venue), but there are a couple of new clubs a couple miles down the road in Belgium. Haven't done either one yet, but considering the general economy in that part of IL I wouldn't be surprised if extras were accessible.

For Play12 - DeeDee isn't the heavy-topped gal unless the big-bosomed gal goes by that name, too. DeeDee is tall and rather thin, but not TOO thin. A true wonder to behold when she's strolling down the street in a mniskirt.

Peter_Girth

07-21-04, 17:37

Problem with the clubs in Belgium is that they do not even open at all until like 7:00 or 8:00 in the evenings. Too late to get the "happy hour" crowd in there. One of the clubs went out of business some time back and there is now another in the barn-like structure on the other side of the highway. Another down the road to the west of Route 1. I have not been in either but I have heard that xtras are not available, at least not in the club. You might set up something for after hours. But it is more likely the stripper will just keep you there until closing time, milking money out of you all the while, then sneak out the back with her snaggletoothed, tattooed scumbag boyfriend, leaving you with your wallet empty and your nuts full.

BTW, a big tree fell on Joe Jin during the storms last week and tore off part of the roof overhanging the porch. Right after renovating the front of the building to boot. But they are back in business. I don't think they ever closed down, not even while the power was off.

Taco Malo

07-21-04, 22:33

Hey fellas,

Used to go to school in Champaign around 10 years ago.

I remember that Illini arcade used to have a private room. I think it was 10 or 20 bucks to use. Had a couch, a TV with porno piped in and also a VCR with which you could see your selection of a porn you rented from their inventory. Almost a party room.

Used it one time just so I could beat it with some privacy. But always wondered if you could take someone in there with you and party.

I'm heading down in a week or so, and I may try to pick up a sweet ho - and take her over there for a film festival. Have any of you guys used the private room?

Also, any advice for a newbie would be appreciated. Thanks!

Yet Another Guy

07-22-04, 01:36

Goo,

The only "action" I've seen at or around the Illini are some extremely masculine TV's very late in the night. Better luck to be had out at Fantasy's off of North Cunningham on a Friday or Saturday night, lots of couples there.

BJ Daty

07-24-04, 22:47

Friday I had to make a trip to Champain. I was just going down to pick up a truck and then go back home. No intention to pick up any one.

I had taken extra cash with in case I had truble with the truck so when I saw a good looking blond at the side of the road my mind raced with the possobilitys. I circled around to get a look and try to make eye contact, but she got into a car and off they went.

I drove around for about tweenty minutes and did not see anything else so I got on to 47 and started heading home. I got as far as a small town on 47 about 45 minnutes north of Ch. (I am not sure but I think the town was Suton) when the exaust on the truck started making a tarible sound I pulled into a parkeng lot by what looked lioke a VFW hall and climed under the truck found the problem (a pipe had come appart) I fixed it sort of and got into the truck. A young red head came running up to the truck and asked if I was headding to Moris I said I was and she asked if she could hich a ride.

Now I do not want to make this too much like a letter to Penthouse but, she explained that she was a stripper hiered for a Bachler party at the hall I had parked in front of. It turns out her ride (her boy friend) had picked up a girl at the hall and she got pissed so she was leaving him there.

She started to cry alitle wich bumed me out because I wanted to F/s this girl and her crying was not a part of my plan.

I asked her if she often got rides from total strangers. She looked over and smilled a dirty smile and said only truckers no one else could be trusted. Then she said besides its not like you want anything I wont give you. I asked if she was a cop (force of habit) she gigled and I pulled off at the next exit we climed in the back and she made me a happy man.

I know what you are thinking and do not worrie I would not belive me eather. Its not like this is the first time a hichhiker has ever paid for the ride with sex. It is however the first time it has happend to me. I guess I should drive trucks more often.

Peter_Girth

07-26-04, 11:22

The saturday news-gazette had an article about a prostitution sting in Champaign that netted 6 "girls". The article does not seem to be available online, at least not yet. Locations mentioned are all the familiar ones. Your tax dollars at work.

TheShadow2

07-26-04, 13:42

PeterGirth,
Did you notice in the article the ages of the ho's arrested?
All six were over 40 years old...
Champaign just isn't worth the trouble when it comes to SW's.
Pickins are slim and LE makes a serious effort to eliminate it totally.

BJ Daty,
You're right. We don't believe you.
And even if it did happen, it doesn't do me any good to know about it, since I can't go to the unknown town and find the unknown girl just as she's being dissed by her boyfriend.
So in conclusion, if and when one in a million experiences happen to you, don't waste your time telling us about them, and we won't have to waste our time reading about them...

Yet Another Guy

07-27-04, 00:35

Must have missed that sting report from the NG. That also probably explains my total strike out Friday afternoon and Friday night other than one truly scary stringy looking bsw who was shouting at pretty much every passing car with a male driver.

Peter_Girth

07-28-04, 11:00

Yeah, Shadow, looks like C-U is a mecca for the MILF/Granny crackhead scene now. Where did all the young ones go?? I have heard of some decent chocolate being available in Danville and Decatur, but have yet to turn up anything worth sticking Little Pete in. Except at the AMPs, of course, but that gets expensive.

BJ Daty

07-31-04, 23:14

Shadow

My apologys, you are right it was not a post that belonged here. I just had to tell someone and well I do not know anyone who I could tell. so you had to wade through my post Delete it if you like or can I will understand.

Yet Another Guy

08-02-04, 20:11

OMG, I made Senior status!

Hey, thanks, Jackson.

Dang, I miss the days here in CU when there was a veritable smorgasboard to be had in downtown before that block with the porn shop burned to the ground. Now, finding anything in the moderately priced range that isn't truly scary is a major struggle.

The agencies are all ripoffs (and I have sworn off any more agency girls, they are all dead fish). The nearest AMP is 40 miles away in either direction and with Candy gone in Decatur and the talent so darned variable in Danville, what's a guy to do?

Play 12, could you help out a fellow citizen with info on Cynthia? Did she say it was okay to part with her digits?

TheShadow2

08-03-04, 00:28

BJ Daty,
No big deal my friend, just maybe show some restraint next time...? If it was true, I could see where you would want to tell someone...

Side note: Saw a skank BSW walking tonight...in the "Do it Best" parking lot! Too funny :-)
She was in transit, coming from where or going where, I don't know. But she gave me "the look"...

Yet Another Guy

08-03-04, 11:19

God Shadow, the irony of that is almost too much to bear.

Anyone know if the boarding house about 2 blocks west of there still has a couple of semi-decent looking gals sharing a room week to week? They'd typically go down State to the park northbound, and walk around it for a couple of hours every afternoon from 5 to 7 or so. Haven't seen anyone doing that lately but it used to be worth a circuit to see.

Lester954

08-06-04, 14:45

I have had some sucess with the current escor agencies in town. Currently Moonlighters and Just a touch. I have a phone number for a girl that works for one of the agencies. I am willing to give it out to anyone who can give me a contact in return. The girl is 20 and is fs.

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Yet Another Guy

08-07-04, 06:12

Had the DEFINITE pleasure of meeting Madam Liu again recently. For those who haven't read about her before, she's a curvaceous 20-something Asian American.

The massage was definitely a treat and very thorough, and left me quite relaxed. Got the kinks out from a long week of stair-climbing (occupational hazard) before moving on. And when I say thorough, I mean thorough. The massage alone took close to the total allotted hour.

I think she's been taking French lessons since I last saw her, because she's gone from a 7 to a 9 in that category. Very happy finish to that conversation.

Still not full service, but the price point of .8 for incall was well worth the experience. She's only available Fridays and Saturdays, alas.

She told me senior members can b/c me for contact info.

TheShadow2

08-07-04, 08:07

I would agree that "Madam Liu" is worth the 80 dollars, especially when in Champaign, as your other options are very limited.
She's an interesting and accomodating young woman. My experiences with her were always memorable :-)

Mike_Jones

08-10-04, 00:27

Just for kicks, did the Bradley cruise (LOL) last night around 11. Tallish (5ft 7ish) BSW, fairly thin one block W of Bradley and Market. Did not get a good look, LE had turned in behind me 3 blocks previous, and pulled a U turn when they saw her. Up and down State / Randolph a few times with no luck.

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Yet Another Guy

08-11-04, 06:16

Did the Bradley/Market circuit early last evening. Police had a radar trap running 1/4 mile north, so running the circuit without being obvious to them was rather difficult.

Saw 3 truly scary BSW's, one who was as big as a porch, one so rail-thin she HAD to be on something, one so LOUD I was sure the police had to hear her blocks away.

One WSW I've seen out off and on in the past, didn't stop to check further because it looked as if her jaw was broken.

DID site one WSW who was fairly hot, face a 6 and bod an 8, but she was out maybe a grand total of 30 seconds because I couldn't even get around the block fast enough to pick her up. If it was one of you other mongers, share the details!

WillySP

08-14-04, 19:33

I too had the pleasure of meeting Madam New and had a great experience.

I appreciate the information on how to meet with her.

She looks great and provides a very good massage and overall enjoyable time.

I know I will be traveling back to the area soon.

Yet Another Guy

08-14-04, 19:51

Mike Jones, missed your earlier report.

Be extremely careful when cruising State-Randolph. The residents STILL have cameras in the windows, and if one notices you once too many times, they will video you and your plates and call the police. Haven't seen any of their foot patrols in awhile, their vigilance is still there if not as visible.

Saw the same loud loud LOUD mugly BSW out today mid-afternoon as I reported earlier in the week. Better lighting did NOT improve her appearance, face a 2, body a 3, and what the HECK was with the strange hat she was wearing?

Play12

08-30-04, 16:07

I had a dream the other night that I had an encounter with a bsw, didn't get a name. I picked her up in the usual locale. I had seen her numerous times so didn't have to do the cop check because I have seen her picked up before. Agreed to a Jackson for fs. Went to a reliable spot and did the deed. Not rushed and she did a very good bbbj, well worth the $. Be safe and good hunting.

Yet Another Guy

09-02-04, 15:00

Did the circuit yesterday and saw one BSW going the wrong way, actually not too shabby in some short shorts and a low cut top, but I couldn't even get around the block before someone was scooping her up.

Play 12 - do you check your PMs?

Willy, glad to hear you enjoyed ML. She's an interesting lady, isn't she.

Play12

09-04-04, 16:18

Yet another guy,

The numbers from those girls were no good that is why I didn't give them to you.

ES345

09-06-04, 20:31

I was with Madam New or Liu sometime back. She was ok, but she kept belching the whole time throughout the session, so it was distracting. She also runs her mouth and talks about other clients.

Yet Another Guy

09-07-04, 00:56

Play12 - bummer, but not unexpected.

ES345 - weird on the belching thing, but I've found the conversations interesting.

Tried the usual circuit last night up until 8 p.m., deader than a doornail.

Ralph

09-08-04, 15:08

Drove up I-74 through Illinois last night and decided to check out the ussual areas along the way and wound up finding nothing.

Have never found anything in Champaign and crusied the areas mentioned on the board and found nothing in the 9ish range.

Made it up to Bloomington and crusied the normal area for about half an hour and saw nothing I found desireable- saw one very obvious BSW who I passed on.

Hit Peoria around midnight and found nothing. The area around the Church has ahd all the loose gravel from the tar and gravel they did a few weeks back. Did not see anyone in the area at all. Tried the southside stroll by the bakery and saw one WSW who appeared to be in her late 50's at least so I passed.

Wound up in Galesburg for the evening. Figure there might be some action somewhere in this town but I have yet to find any. From what I understand the job situation in the area is not all that great. anyone ever have any luck in town.

Peter_Girth

09-13-04, 12:00

There is a new place south of Danville in Belgium called Exercise and Massage. It is in the building formerly occupied by a strip club and more recently a bar, pretty much right across the main highway from the Top Hat strip club and across the cross road from a hair salon and a cappucino shop. The just "erected" a new privacy fence, which indicates to me that there might be some action going on there. I have not been there yet, the indication is that it is an EMP and I have never been really fond of those places, prefering the predictibility of an AMP instead. Any word on this place??

Bee Sure Man

09-13-04, 22:59

I have seen the new place south of Danville also and was wondering about their services. I called on the phone and an Asian women answered and indicated they were open to 10pm.
I don't know if they will be full service, are not fully staffed or why they close at 10. I'm thinking of giving them a try soon. Has anybody has any luck at the place south of Westville?

BSM

Peter_Girth

09-14-04, 12:31

>Has anybody has any luck at the place south of Westville?

I visited there once, got FS from a big-tittied Asian girl there for .6 above the house fee of .8/hr. Not much in the face but she got the job done. On a return visit there was a different girl there and when I inquired about extras I was shown the door. She must have thought I was LE, but I had been there before and been serviced. I won't make the mistake of going back there again. I have also been serviced by a variety of girls at Joe Jin along the same stretch of road, closer to Danville. Much nicer place and always had friendly service.

I guess the reason I thought Exercise and Massage was an EMP and not an AMP is there are two AMP on that stretch of road, how many can the market bear? Plus, the sign in front of the place had a sign below it pointing the way to the Play Pen strip joint down the road a ways, and I figured they were somehow connected.

But I did not see a phone number on the new place, where did you get it?? Post or PM it to me and the next time I am out that way I will stop in and TOFT if necessary.

Voodoo Chile

09-14-04, 19:32

Gentlemen,

Have not been to the new exercise place in Belgium, but it is apparently operated by the same people who formerly (?) ran the old bakery south of Westville. I was told about the new place by the mamasan of the old bakery during a trip there in July. They also had an add posted on the door. She told me it was going to be Swedish massage (yes, thats what she said), but did not give details. If these people really are running the place, then extras are probably available. That is all I know about the new place.

Regarding the old bakery, don't go there anymore! I went there a few weeks ago and had the worst experience I have ever had at an AMP. It used to be an OK place, and I had several good experiences there (GFE, FS, etc.), especially with a girl named CeeCee. But apparently when the exercise place in Belgium opened the mamasan (and maybe the staff) went there, leaving new people to operate the old bakery. They don't know what they are doing. Read on for gory details.

Was met at the door by a girl named Angie. She looked like she had just gotten out of bed, but not too bad overall. After getting undressed she took me to the sauna, where I sat for about 20-25 minutes, getting pissed. I was almost ready to leave, when Angie finally came back. Apparently she used this time to clean herself up, and now she looked pretty good. She then took me to the room, where I asked about a shower. "Oh, you want a shower" she said. Well the shower was solo - she actually left the room. Next came an awful two minute massage, then she asked what I wanted. Wanted FS, and it was available. Can't remember what I paid, but it was too much. Brief CBJ, followed by a rough reverse cow girl. After a few minutes of this, I noticed she was bleeding. This explains why she looked a little rough when she opened the door. Just when I was about to freak, she apparently notices also, stops pumping me, grabs a towel, dismounts and while blocking my view cleans us both up. I never said anything (probably shock), and she probably figured I had not noticed. She then finished me off manually (sans condom) and I did not object. I just wanted to get out of there.

Go there at your own peril. My worst AMP experience by far. If they don't improve on their performance, this place won't last long.

Voodoo

Peter_Girth

09-15-04, 09:20

So, Voodoo, is the old bakery location still Asian or have they changed flavors? I guess it is good that the new place is an AMP rather than an EMP, but personally my last experience at the bakery was enough of a turn-off that I will probably also take a pass on the new place. Thanks for the info.

Voodoo Chile

09-16-04, 18:19

Peter_Girth,

The old bakery is still Asian. I will probably try the new place in a week or so. Will report if I make it there.

Voodoo

Play12

09-17-04, 17:52

Hello fellow mongers,

I did a stroll last nite that was quite productive, I have figured out when the best time to get some action I will not say here because of LE. I picked up a bsw that was a total knockout. I had seen her before but never had the time to pick her up.

She is definitely a strong 8 on the scale. I picked her up and she knew I wasn't a cop because I had actually gave her a ride before and didn't have any money at the time, but this nite was different.

I took her to a reliable spot and we negotiated a jackson for fs. I must say I was a little disappointed because she just layed there, but she was a little nervouse because it was our first encounter, but her body and looks more than made up for it.

After the deed I took her where she needed to go and we actually kind of hit it off, it seems that she was a little more comfortable, and she opened up a little. She said definitely she will be more lively the next time around. I would the experience overall a 6.

This chick is very cool so if you see her treat her good. She has a beutiful ass and a sexy walk, so you will know her when you see her.

Another suggestion I have found to be excellent is renting a storage space that is 24 hour accesible and put a bed there, it is very safe and only about $70 a month that is just a suggestion. It works for me.

Until next time be safe and happy mongering.

12

Play12

09-23-04, 13:51

Hello distinguished gentlemen,

Made a venture to Danville last nite and hooked up with a wsw, she was about a 3 on the scale. The only reason I picked her up is because she did greek. Her face was not too bad, and she had an alright ass, but her tits were horrible to the point I told her to keep her shirt on.

Anyway I negotiated a grand total of .15 for the deed and probrable could have done it for .10 It cheap like that in the ville.

I took her to a reliable spot and got out the lube and did the deed, she did not rush me, but rather enjoyed it. Overall it was an ok experience, I could tell she gets an ass ramming often cause I went in pretty easy and I have a decent size package.

I didn't get a name, but you can find her on the usual places, I picked her up around 1am. Peace out and be safe.

PLAY

Voodoo Chile

09-24-04, 19:30

Gentlemen,

Checked out the new exercise and massage place south of Danville the other day. Just as I expected, this place is run by the same people who operated the old bakery until recently. It is your typical AMP, and FS is available. They now have a high fence around the parking lot, and your car won't be spotted from the road. Was met at the door by CeeCee, who was happy to see a familiar face. I had several sessions with her at the old bakery. No sign of anyone else the whole time I was there. The place is pretty nice, but the table for the shower is way too narrow, and it is up against the wall. Larger individuals might have a hard time laying down, and may have to shower while standing. The sauna is also small, but very nice. After the shower and sauna, was led to a typical massage room.

Massage was very good, and lasted almost an hour. CeeCee is about a 5 on the scale, but is young, really sweet with a great attitude. She is pretty quiet, probably due to lack of English skills. She really seems to enjoy herself, and is not a clock watcher. My session lasted about an hour and twenty minutes. Paid 1.6 total for CBJ and FS. House fee is .7 for an hour, plus I paid .9 tip. Forgot the price for 1/2 hour, but it is posted on a sign in the window. Pretty good session, and I will probably return. This place probably won't have the young babes that JoeJin has, but then again it won't cost you $$ for FS.

Drove by the old bakery before going home. To my surprise, it was open. Three AMPs on the same stretch of road. How long can that last?

Voodoo

R Hooker

09-28-04, 19:04

Hey this is my first time writting something. I called one of the numbers that you can find in The Hub. This lady answered and said that she would set me up for an incall to her place. So I got to her place and it turns out she had three young black girls at her place too. I paid 90 bucks for house fee. They told me to lay down in the living room floor. All four of them start massaging me. They wanted 200 for fs, so I said no (too much money for me). I told them all I had was 60. The woman in charge said they would jerk me off together for 60. 150 bucks total for four black girls to jerk me off and give me an 8 handed massage. Not too bad. One of the black girls was an 8, the other two 5's, and the woman in charge was a 3.

R

Yet Another Guy

09-29-04, 12:57

Hey R Hooker, welcome to this little growing community...

I've noticed the numbers in the Hub, but always been leery of what kind of weridness I'd run into. But, you've sparked my curiosity...was that quote for all FOUR of them, or you could choose one of the four, or what? And was that quote for 2 on top of the 90, or 2 total?

Not that I have any self-delusions that I could do the horizontal samba with 4 in a row, mind you, but dang it might be fun to TRY this sort of strange harem scene.

R Hooker

09-30-04, 00:34

It was 2 on top of the 90 for just one of them. Not worth it, but the 4 woman HJ was worth the 150 if you ask me.

R

ES345

10-01-04, 16:23

Nice lunch?

Member #2819

10-04-04, 08:57

Long time reader, first time writer.

I called the number in the Hub and made appointment also. Got there and there was only 2 of them. Paid the .6 house fee and the chunkier one asked which girl I woud like. I chose the taller one and she said to get comfortable on the couch and she would be right back.. Undressed sat down and she brought a cover and said $$ for hj and my mouth fell open and said "what" she then said that 1.5 for and I said no thanks. She asked the other girl if she thought that was a fair price and she said "what are you looking for" I said fs for that price. The girl I picked said she does not do fs, but the other did. So I switched paid $$ for fs and was lead up stairs. We did cowgirl and that was it, after 25 min of riding she got off and finished with hj. No kissing, no DATY no BJ nothing else. So I guess I TOFTT. But YMMV.

Bee Sure Man

10-08-04, 23:14

What exactly is The Hub and where is it available? Thank You.

BSM

Barney1234

10-09-04, 23:17

Here's info on The Hub:

http://www.cuvolunteer.org/find/agency_profile.phtml?aid=348

They don't seem to have a web site, but probably any left-leaning business in Champaign will have a copy.

Barney

Member #2819

10-11-04, 08:19

You can get a copy of the Hub at the public Library if you like.

Play12

10-11-04, 12:42

Hello Gentlemen,

Made a trip to Danville Friday nite, and left there a very happy man. First I went strolling that nite and it seemed like I was going to come away dry when I see a wsw that I used to pick up all the time a few years ago. She has been busted a couple of times so she doesn't come out too much. Anyway I pick her up and we head to my place where I get a nice bbbj and then on to some mish and doggy. A usually good experience all for the price of $.10 she is about a 6 on the sw scale.

After dropping her off I head to the place I was staying and chill out for a little while, then I decide I am going to head home, so I go the stroll way and run across this bsw that I had been wanting to sample, she is new to the area from up north. She hops in and she is very nervous so I start a conversation with her and put her at ease very quickly. She is very skinny, I usually don't like skinny women but I had a taste for one that I could flip and flop if you know what I mean. Anyway this was one of the best one's I have had I would rate her a 5 though she had no tits, a nice small shapely butt. A very good encounter all the for the price of $.10 So there you have it gentlemen two women two pops for a jackson, that is what I love about Danville.

On another note I encountered the girl that gave me some anal love in my other post, she hopped in my ride and I told her we would go back to my spot again, and she said she didn't want to go there, she said it was too far, a whole five minutes so I said what the hell was up with that, I said it is not far and it is guaranteed safe, but she said she didn't want to go, and then the b*cth had the nerve to ask me to take her to Georgetown which is about 15 miles away, so I said go back to my spot lets do the do and I will take you there, she still said no because I am on my period, I said that's ok I am going to get in that ass again anyway.

So she says she doesn't feel good, and that she would give me a bj, I said no you know what I want. So then she asks me could I take her someplace else, get this that is right by my spot, so I drove the opposite way and when she still declined to come to my spot, I told her ass to get out. It was funny too because it was pretty cold out by that time, and her dumb ass was in a little t-shirt shivering like crazy. I had to put my foot down, these hoes want you to bend every which way and don't want to do the same. She could have been warm had a ride to where she needed to go and stayed out of the cold for about 20 minutes of her time...Dumb ho..If any of you guys see her give a good anal ramming to teach her a good lesson..not to try and get over on us mongers.

Happy Hunting

12

Ci-Traveler

10-11-04, 16:12

Play 12 wrote:

"I told her ass to get out. It was funny too because it was pretty cold out by that time, and her dumb ass was in a little t-shirt shivering like crazy. .......[sinp],,,,,..If any of you guys see her give a good anal ramming to teach her a good lesson..not to try and get over on us mongers."

Sorry bud, I don't treat anyone that way - even to someone who may be desparate for $

You don't have to treat someone that way to feel good about yourself. And that's what it appears you have done.

Who's the "ho" now?

ci-traveler

Carb

10-11-04, 17:19

Ci,

There are various reasons why women get into this life style. As people who take advantage of and benefit from that lifestyle, it doesn't give us the right to abuse them and treat them like dogs. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect; for me it's a much better experience that way. That doesn't mean that you put up with crap from those who would cheat you one way or another. None of these ladies deserves to be treated badly. Perhaps I'm a softie but I probably would have taken the time to give the girl a ride to Georgetown and looked for something later. It seems that all of the boards have at least one guy who acts more like a sadist than a monger. Just my 2 cents worth.

Carb

Play12

10-12-04, 00:52

CI,

You don't have a clue what you are talking about. The business is money in exchange for sex. I am not a taxi, so no sw is going to try and get over on me. If she doesn't want to do what is requested then she has to leave plain and simple. What are you anyway MR.Super Save A Ho, if it had been you you would have told her the same thing. So I am not the one that's a ho.

That is the problem with these sw, they think they are in control, when it's us who is with the money. I don't have to pay for it sex to get laid, I do it just for the fun of it, so it is not a big deal if I don't get none from a sw. So like I said in my last post if a sw wants to try and get over on a monger, I think it's the responsibility of another to give it to her so she will remember it. I didn't say hurt her or anything like that, I would never condone that. So CI next time get your facts straight before you write. Sounds like you the ho to me.

12

Ci-Traveler

10-12-04, 10:00

Mr. Play 12 with an incredible number of 13 very informative and regular member posts wrote:

"You don't have a clue what you are talking about."

Me: Ok bud. Whatever you say. You're the expert here.

Also:

"The business is money in exchange for sex. I am not a taxi, so no sw is going to try and get over on me. If she doesn't want to do what is requested then she has to leave plain and simple."

Me: Ok bud, whatever you say. You're the expert here.

Seriously though, I would dump the chick too. But I would try to do it in a place that was close to where I picked her up. I certainly wouldn't rejoice in the fact that she is miserable and shivering in a t-shirt. If she hadn't ripped me off, and if money hadn't exchanged hands - the "business" you describe hadn't taken place yet - therefore, no deal. No one has to be an ass about it. BTW - Carb's very reasonable response to my knee jerk reaction was a good one - and it gave clarification to the situation - I appreciate that Carb - thanks. BTW, Play 12 - you say you aren't a taxi, but you go on to say in your post that she could have been warm had a ride to where she needed to go and stayed out of the cold for about 20 minutes of her time. Sounds to me like sometimes you are a taxi - just when it suits you???

Mr. Play 12 with 13 incredible, reliable, helpful, and terrifically uplifiting regular member posts went on to say:

"What are you anyway MR.Super Save A Ho......."

*sigh* Naw - I'm just a person who doesn't believe that you treat others as you were treated (well - sometimes you should treat them that way or worse - but not in this case).

He further went on:

"That is the problem with these sw, they think they are in control, when it's us who is with the money. I don't have to pay for it sex to get laid, I do it just for the fun of it, so it is not a big deal if I don't get none from a sw."

So why act so indignant and get so pissed off about this issue? Sounds like maybe you DO need to pay for it.

And more dribble:

"So like I said in my last post if a sw wants to try and get over on a monger, I think it's the responsibility of another to give it to her so she will remember it."

Well goolllllllyyy - I just have to disagree bro. If she tries but doesn't, just letting her out politely and telling her why will sometimes do the trick. You assume that the negotiation is one sided - and that's a big mistake. It's always a two way street - and it sounds to me like you hadn't closed the deal yet. You assumed since you are the monger that you had the right to call ALL of the shots - and that just aint ever the case bud. I read your post carefully - and you just didn't know how to take no for an answer. She was willing to blow you but not fuck you. You got pissed because she asked for a 15 mile trip, and then you got even more pissed because she didn't want you to do her the way you wanted. Your assumption comes from the fact that she got in your car - period. You never know what the girl is willing to do until you talk with her (which you did). In this case, when you found out she only was willing to do one thing - you deceided to treat her badly. You could have just taken her back and said you changed your mind. Sometimes taking the high road is worth the effort and time.

Finally - the denial and flip flop:

"I didn't say hurt her or anything like that, I would never condone that. So CI next time get your facts straight before you write. Sounds like you the ho to me."

No one said you hurt her. Maybe you need to get YOUR facts straight. Because I didn't say that, I don't know how you can validate the idea that I didn't have my facts straight? You wrote verbatim:

"So then she asks me could I take her someplace else, get this that is right by my spot, so I drove the opposite way and when she still declined to come to my spot, I told her ass to get out. It was funny too because it was pretty cold out by that time, and her dumb ass was in a little t-shirt shivering like crazy. I had to put my foot down, these hoes want you to bend every which way and don't want to do the same. She could have been warm had a ride to where she needed to go and stayed out of the cold for about 20 minutes of her time...Dumb ho..If any of you guys see her give a good anal ramming to teach her a good lesson..not to try and get over on us mongers."

My thoughts: the way I see it bud, you got pissed off at her, drove the opposite direction on purpose to put her out in the cold, and then you brag about being happy about getting her back by watching her shiver. You then express a sentiment that you hope some other person will treat her in a way you know she doesn't want - maybe in a way you are unable to perform - and then claim that you didn't mean anything by it - that you don't condone hurting the ho.

I think everyone who reads your report, my response, and your flip/flop denial will know who the real ho is bud.

ci-traveler

Ci-Traveler

10-12-04, 10:12

Carb wrote:

"Perhaps I'm a softie but I probably would have taken the time to give the girl a ride to Georgetown and looked for something later. It seems that all of the boards have at least one guy who acts more like a sadist than a monger. Just my 2 cents worth."

Not just 2 cents in my book. What you wrote is worth reading - because it embodies what everyone whould be - compassionate.

I read about how Lefty (Milwaukee board) describes his alleged dates with women and how he gets back at them. My reason for clarifying on this board is so that the idiots who think that is cool behavior is what causes the hobby to be in the kind of shape it is in. Hell - LE is looking for a dude who killed 5 street walkers in Peoria, IL over the past several years. Because of that kind of stupid behavior, the rest of us suffer. The Lefty's of the world are truly angry at women and think that their fantasy stories (I actually believe that Lefty is a monger who has very, very marginal success in the hobby and writes fiction about what he WISHES he had done but can't do) turn on the average guy reading this board. The average guy doesn't post - he lurks and makes up his own mind. The support for the Lefty's of the board is made up of about .05% of everyone who reads the board - if that. But they are the ones who write in and speak up. That's a crying shame.

You aren't a "softie" Carb - you appear to be a person who keeps his head and understands the game.

Now THAT was 2 cents.

ci-traveler

Yet Another Guy

10-12-04, 10:33

My .02 on Play12's posts -

Up until the very last sentence in his first post, there wasn't anything unusual about what he had to say. Some SW trying to get a free taxi ride? And one that would amount to at least a half hour of extra driving? (I'd put it at closer to an hour, round trip). How many of you would have said "No, get out of my car, I'm not your taxi."?

There's no way I'd have driven her that far - she's not my friend, she's someone I picked up for instant gratification. Period. I don't even know her true name - and what would be waiting for me at the places she wants me to take her? NO thank you.

That last sentence in his first post telling us "If any of you guys see her give a good anal ramming to teach her a good lesson..not to try and get over on us mongers." was a bit over the top.

Things that came to my mind:

1) She was frightened about going to that private place again; 2) She was just looking for a lift to get her fix and thought she could con him into doing it;
3) That anal play with him was the first time for her, and she wasn't willing to go through with it again.

A myriad of other scenarios come to mind, there's no way to know what was she was thinking. It's clear she was NOT thinking about going to Play12's private place for another greek lesson. We don't even know what her motivations were for agreeing to it the first time with him - Fear? Curiosity? Hunger? Needing a fix? Whatever it was, she wasn't going to do it again, that's obvious.

Whatever the case may be, telling the rest of us to "teach her a lesson" comes off pretty ruthless, especially since he thought it was "funny" to toss her out in the cold. IMHO, he went TOTALLY over the top telling other mongers to "give it to her so she will remember it." That's just cruel. She didn't do anything to warrant being abused or punished by anyone, she didn't even take any money.

Would I have been pissed that I'd wasted my time on her? Probably. Would I pick her up again? No. Would I tell other guys of the experience? Maybe, but she didn't actually rip him off, but she DID try to play some sort of game on him - to what intent, we don't know.

No matter what she's doing to raise money, or why, she DOES control what is done to her and by her - unless you're promoting some act of violence against her. Play12, please tell us that that isn't the case. Whatever else the women in this game are, they're still human beings.

Play12

10-12-04, 14:22

Let me clarify one thing to everyone, the opposite way was taking her back to the area where I picked her up at. After I picked her up we drove around talking and negotiating, when all along she was just trying to get a free ride from me. I wasn't pissed off at all, I wasn't out of any money, I just wasn't going to let her use me for a free ride. And also to set the record straight, she says she enjoys doing anal, she says she didn't want to go to the place I had, because it was too far, and I asked her did she feel uncomfortable there and she said no. I think she was just looking for a quick fix because she was on her period.

Yet Another Guy is more along the lines of your number 2 reason. And CI it doesn't matter how many post I have right now, it seems obvious with the number of posts that you have, paying is the only way you can get laid, but I am not going to further try and defend myself because you weren't there and you don't know the whole situation and I don't have the time or energy to right every single detail of that encounter, I am pretty sure no one here writes every single detail of each encounter they have.

Just because a sw offers a bj does that mean I have to accept it,no, if that's not what I am looking for I don't have to take one plain and simple. So like I said before CI you don't know the whole story so just drop it and harass someone else.

12

Ci-Traveler

10-13-04, 09:17

In his all consuming and extremely experienced 14th report, Play 12 said:

"And CI it doesn't matter how many post I have right now, it seems obvious with the number of posts that you have, paying is the only way you can get laid, but I am not going to further try and defend myself because you weren't there and you don't know the whole situation and I don't have the time or energy to right every single detail of that encounter, I am pretty sure no one here writes every single detail of each encounter they have."

Hey bud - that's a run on sentence. You should go back and edit your post.

I would suggest that you write a post that contains enough information in it to present at least a version of the story that comes close to allowing us to understand what you experienced. You didn't - and that was the problem. If you don't have the time to write enough to inform us, than it is a complete and utter waste of our time to read your dribble.

"Just because a sw offers a bj does that mean I have to accept it,no, if that's not what I am looking for I don't have to take one plain and simple. So like I said before CI you don't know the whole story so just drop it and harass someone else."

You feel harrassed? Holy BBBJCIM Batman!

I for one am very happy that you clarified all that you did in your last post. However, the way to avoid a flame war is to admit that you didn't present all the information (gee - this JUST MIGHT be the reason I and others reacted to your first post) - which resulted in us not having all the information and caused this problem to begin with. NOW she likes anal, and NOW your going in the opposite direction was back towards where you picked her up. NOW you weren't pissed off when you told all of us to pick her up and give her a good anal rammin and teach her a lesson. Are you related to John Kerry by any chance?

We don't have to be there. We don't WANT to be there. We want you to post accurately and effectively. We certainly don't want you suggesting that we all go out and find this girl who was afraid of you (perhaps for good reason - based on all of your posts so far) and teach her a lesson. By the way, if she genuinely enjoys anal, as you report, why would giving it to her teach her a lesson? That's a hole in your story bud (damn - sorry for the pun).

I sure hope your next report contains information that all of us can use in some way.

ci-traveler

Jimmy

10-13-04, 17:54

OK guys, lets let this one die. We haven't had any flaming in the central IL area in a long time and I would prefer not to have it start now. Lets get back to the real issue, which is finding our rare gems. One more thing please, lets not start a political arguement either (refering to CI's Kerry comment). Thanks guys, and lets keep the info coming.
I for one have yet to find anyone walking in Danville when I have been there. Am I missing the area or are there not many available?

Yet Another Guy

10-14-04, 06:42

Had a chance to do the stroll last night, and ran across a late 30s blonde. Down on her luck and works off and on, seems I happened to be lucky enough to catch her out. No digits, living a semi-itinerant life trying to keep from going homeless.

At first I was really leery, coz she had a clean-cut look and a kind of athletic build - you know, that "Yes, I'm a lady cop and I can rip your head off" look. But she was too nonchalant about giving the look, and she hopped in the car as fast as you can say "Needaride?"

Okay looking, nice rack, 5'6" - 5'8". BBJTCIM for 25, more was available but didn't have the time and my car isn't built for it.

Spanky McPenis

10-15-04, 21:43

Now now CI, Not all of us with low Post Counts are Idiots, Some of us just live in Horrible Mongering towns where Next to nobody leaves any Info. Yay Springfield. Oh, then We Lose our Passwords for the six Post we Did have.

Is Champaign worth the Hour Drive, or is it Too hit and Miss over there to make it worth while?

Voodoo Chile

10-16-04, 15:26

Gentlemen,

Attention Danville area mongers. Last night, after visiting the new AMP south of Danville, I spotted something interesting while pulling out of the parking lot. Just across the street from the AMP at the edge of the vacant lot along Lyons Road sat what looked like a SW. Did not get a good look at her, but she looked pretty nice from where I sat. Young, blonde, about 5.5, 120 lbs. She was sitting on a post used to string wire across the entrance to the vacant lot, near the beauty shop with a Mexican sounding name. I don't have much experience with SWs, but given the location (across from an AMP and between two strip clubs), my instincts tell me she was working. She did not wave, but she did not entirely ignore me either. In addition, it was cold and raining, and I don't know why the girl would be there otherwise. I was not interested at the time and was in a hurry to catch a late dinner, so I did not stop. She might be worth checking into (so to speak).

Voodoo