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Fishguy717
05-26-16, 08:09
I'm just wondering if a lot of these posts should be on the BP reviews thread, and taking up less real estate in the Woodshed, where people vent.
I posted what I posted here cause it was irrelevant and it's the wood shed where anything if I recall correctly can be said. So now I'm a bad guy because I tried to get everyone's flavor of month at bargain, for that I'm sorry and that's all I can be. Well guess I'll just go get tested and hop my happy little penny pinching bargain shopping ass back on the bench. Didn't mean to upset everyone's little princess.
I never told her I was on here or a senior member or pretty much anything, I couldn't get a word in. Guess it's was one of those you had to be there moments.
Dude, we mongers complain when providers waste our time, up charge and play games. Then you go and pull a stunt like that. She has called me several times to ask my opinion of different situations and wanted to know if she handle them the right way. She honestly wants to provide a good experience to her clients. When she told me about this the day it happen I didn't think it would be a member of USASG. But that just proves my point that I wanted to make to her. That just because a client say he is a senior member doesn't make him right or a good guy. A provider should only do what's comfortable for her. Being a senior member only requires a few post and a six month wait. Being a trusted senior member starts with good charater and contributions.
Fishguy717
05-27-16, 06:18
I posted what I posted here cause it was irrelevant and it's the wood shed where anything if I recall correctly can be said. So now I'm a bad guy because I tried to get everyone's flavor of month at bargain, for that I'm sorry and that's all I can be. Well guess I'll just go get tested and hop my happy little penny pinching bargain shopping ass back on the bench. Didn't mean to upset everyone's little princess.I never said you were a bad guy. You can post anything you like on this thread. But if you want to get the word out about a particular BP girl, it will likely be read by more mongers in the appropriate thread. Monger on!
I have wanting to pull the trigger on this for a while but like you wanted to know if she was real thanks for info.
Have had the chance to see the elusive Lisa Love on several occasion. Never thought she was real before, but after seeing the videos online of her performance, I had to take a shot in the dark with no prior info on the subject. So called her when I was on the other side of town and told her that I would be the her area and would like to see her. Got to the general area and called back expecting nothing more nothing less, and she picked up gave me direction to her stay. Got room number on arrival and went up. Surprise surprise it was actually the chick from the ads and the videos, I was excited and relieved. Now to see what all the action was about. Activities began almost immediately after short quick discussion about Roses and weather they could be wait to go in the vase or not but she insisted that they going in the vase. Didn't want to lose out on a rare opportunity. Proceeded with CBJ, but I was wishing for BBBJ, but the rubber was one of the good thin ones. She was on her knees in the bed with the head action, and she says to be I'll take it easy on the head since its your first time with me cause I give bomb head, I said I'll be the judge of that. Man she did not lie. I had to slow her down a couple times so I could make it to the pound game. We went K9 and man the view was off the chain and the cat felt like silk. Did my best to hold out for Mish. In Mish what a cutie to be looking down on. Her eyes where closed but she met gaze a couple times with a smirk of delight, we even convo while I was stroking and pound on her. Since then I seen her like 5 more times and she can be hard to get a hold of but the experience can be worth the wait. She is very cautious I will give her that. She says she welcome every type but just to be polite and respectful is all she ask for. Says she doesn't pick up the phone sometimes cause she has gotten calls back to back with dudes been demanding and nasty to her. I just ask her to lock my number in, so that I can hope to avoid all the phone traffic. I've only been able to see her for short stay which only ran. 80 firm no wiggle room, cause I'm usually just passing thru the area and like lets see if. Don't know what else to say, she is well worth it if you can get to her. If you got questions, I'll do my best to answer or you can call her. But wonder no more she is real and breathe of fresh air from all the others.
I never told her I was on here or a senior member or pretty much anything, I couldn't get a word in. Guess it's was one of those you had to be there moments.Never had a problem with Nikki. Good provider that takes time to make one feel comfortable. You get what you pay for. She obviously feel she's worth more than what you offered. Your loss.
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I don't care what you think and you have been restricted to posting ads only. I'm not sure why you think I'm going to let you finger wag guys.
A2
What did I Lose? Plus you are responding to week old news. RTFF much.
Never had a problem with Nikki. Good provider that takes time to make one feel comfortable. You get what you pay for. She obviously feel she's worth more than what you offered. Your loss.
What did I Lose? Plus you are responding to week old news. RTFF much.I think what he's trying to say is if you're wearing board shorts and flip flops when you roll into Ruth's Chris, you're probably dining at the wrong establishment.
I get it. Ruth Chris is high end, that funny cause I know gang DB that dine there regularly in white tees, literally and metaphorically.
I think what he's trying to say is if you're wearing board shorts and flip flops when you roll into Ruth's Chris, you're probably dining at the wrong establishment.
https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/middle-school-teacher-arrested-sexual-132511826.html
Can't wrap my mind around how attractive young female teachers who would have no issue attracting equal age men without issue want to bang a kid fresh into puberty. Discuss.
Here's my worthless report:
Banged this girl, man was she hot and freaky. Gave her a nice cream pie also!
Before that I had a really bad experience and got ripped off. Very dangerous situation.
Ok, hope these help!
This Blows
06-07-16, 22:12
Here's my worthless report:
Banged this girl, man was she hot and freaky. Gave her a nice cream pie also!
Before that I had a really bad experience and got ripped off. Very dangerous situation.
Ok, hope these help!Hmmm.
I wonder who he's talking about.
Member #5069
06-08-16, 05:53
I know YMMV with these girls, but does anyone ever wonder why a girl that does this (any girl) would allow you to engage in unprotected activities with them? I met a girl recently that has been around for a while but does not post often and the first time we met she did BBBJTCWS. She has a great reputation and nothing but great reports from people that have visited with her, but my question is, How can a girl do that with someone she doesn't even know? I know these women live dangerously, but could it be she is not worried about catching anything because she already has something? Has anyone ever thought this?
Member #5648
06-08-16, 12:16
I know YMMV with these girls, but does anyone ever wonder why a girl that does this (any girl) would allow you to engage in unprotected activities with them? I met a girl recently that has been around for a while but does not post often and the first time we met she did BBBJTCWS. She has a great reputation and nothing but great reports from people that have visited with her, but my question is, How can a girl do that with someone she doesn't even know? I know these women live dangerously, but could it be she is not worried about catching anything because she already has something? Has anyone ever thought this?I honestly can't imagine any guy putting his pens into any dancer without at least asking how many times she's had unprotected sex with or if she's has unprotected sex, because then your betting your life on having that good feeling for how many minutes of pleasure?
MouthHunter
06-08-16, 14:19
I know YMMV with these girls, but does anyone ever wonder why a girl that does this (any girl) would allow you to engage in unprotected activities with them? I met a girl recently that has been around for a while but does not post often and the first time we met she did BBBJTCWS. She has a great reputation and nothing but great reports from people that have visited with her, but my question is, How can a girl do that with someone she doesn't even know? I know these women live dangerously, but could it be she is not worried about catching anything because she already has something? Has anyone ever thought this?That's what I always think. Whoever trained that girl first taught her how to do a job right.
I know YMMV with these girls, but does anyone ever wonder why a girl that does this (any girl) would allow you to engage in unprotected activities with them? I met a girl recently that has been around for a while but does not post often and the first time we met she did BBBJTCWS. She has a great reputation and nothing but great reports from people that have visited with her, but my question is, How can a girl do that with someone she doesn't even know? I know these women live dangerously, but could it be she is not worried about catching anything because she already has something? Has anyone ever thought this?Reminds me of the story of the guy who goes to the whorehouse and asks for any girl but she MUST have herpes and aids and be willing to go bare back with him. Well the madam says why, and the guy says he is paying so it shouldn't matter and then triples the going rate if the madam has what he is looking for.
Well for that kind of money the madam says she will service him herself. After they are done and he has come in side her and then on her face and in her azz, the guy throws out an extra $500 tip. They clean up and have a smolke and the madam says, I have to admit I don't really have aids or herpes,. Why were you so insistent the girl had to have herpes and aids?
The john says, BECAUSE I HAVE THEM ALREADY!!
I honestly can't imagine any guy putting his pens into any dancer without at least asking how many times she's had unprotected sex with or if she's has unprotected sex, because then your betting your life on having that good feeling for how many minutes of pleasure?ASKING HER? Really? Like that's likely to be reliable.
Reminds me of a joke: "Of course I'm a virgin. Why do guys keep asking me that?
ASKING HER? Really? Like that's likely to be reliable.
Reminds me of a joke: "Of course I'm a virgin. Why do guys keep asking me that?Agreed LOL. When asking a non-provider how many guys she's been with, it always seems to be a couple magic numbers, either 8 or 12. Any number a girl gives you, multiply it by 3. Now this doesn't apply to providers because in reality, who knows how many hot dogs they have swallowed LOL.
They talking about Nikki in the BP review section, someone (white knight) go brow beat them and make them realize she's the best thing since sliced beard. Its two of them so make sure both are shunned to submission.
Member #5648
06-11-16, 02:17
Agreed LOL. When asking a non-provider how many guys she's been with, it always seems to be a couple magic numbers, either 8 or 12. Any number a girl gives you, multiply it by 3. Now this doesn't apply to providers because in reality, who knows how many hot dogs they have swallowed LOL.Seems when I've asked a few coeds how many guys they've actually fucked, they each reply "9", so is that on a female website somewhere? You're right, what dancers aren't going to tell me what they think you want to hear?
Hey hey now, play nice. If you kept up, you would have seen my visit with everyone's bread and butter was No better than yours. It's was a joke you sensitive Fuck. Sheesh bust a nut soon so you can relieve some that tension.
Just noticed all my posts are showing as 100, seemed I am capped at that number LOL.
I want a cake to celebrate. Shaped like a pussy. Since I have not eaten one in a while.
Member #5268
06-12-16, 21:20
I get it. Ruth Chris is high end, that funny cause I know gang DB that dine there regularly in white tees, literally and metaphorically.When, I go there for lunch 3 times a week and dinner every once and awhile maybe like 2 a month. I'll ask the bar tender about white tees.
Member #5268
06-12-16, 21:59
What did I Lose? Plus you are responding to week old news. RTFF much.Your game is straight, sucks when you're actually making posts about dreaming and trying to help, some people got other things to say. Keep doing you.
FloridaI95
06-17-16, 11:43
Long time lurker but had something on my mind that troubles me a bit:
[Deleted by Admin]
No, you're not. Use your real account if you want to stir up some shit.
A2
My comments were not directed at anyone in particular. Sorry if you took it that way. I like many to this forum am concerned about the prospects of being robbed. Recent posts about such an occurrence led to a lot of confusion of what providers were actually involved. Despite a lot of discussion, it appears some confusion still exists and I was trying to offer up a possible solution to preclude such confusion in the future. I see far too many posts where the link has been dropped to BP and as such is of little value. I am very new to this forum, but not the hobby. As I become more familiar with proper posting etiquette I hope that my contribution to the forum will be more useful. In the interim, I would appreciate your patience and tutelage.I read your remarks to my post at a quick glance w / out actually understanding the content and sentiment. There's a couple things that gets a little tiring on our forum / s:
1) Those continuously soliciting info w / out returning the favor and throwing down a review or post explicating good and / or bad experiences so others can benefit from it.
"Hey, anybody have info on this one?
"Hey, anybody seen this girl?
"Hey, maybe I should give a brief yet informative account since someone was nice enough to throw me a bone".
2) Posters who post posts so vague, so uninformative, and so lame and pointless, it makes me wonder why they even bothered even posting.
Here's an example that SM Quebec did up on 06-04-16 #1517 in the "The Woodshed" thread:
"Trend recently.
Here's my worthless report:
Banged this girl, man was she hot and freaky. Gave her a nice cream pie also!
Before that I had a really bad experience and got ripped off. Very dangerous situation.
Ok, hope these help!
3) AND those who come on here w / a sole purpose of giving their two cents and advice to others. To me it seems those guilty of doing so get more enjoyment out of that rather than highlighting any experiences they may or may not had.
Your remarks of:
"As soon as a fellow monger posts a derogatory comment about a negative experience with a provider, the provider if she happens to be following usasg, removes the ad from BP".
". to post separately a photo associated with the link before the provider has a chance to remove it".
My comment: These are the same exact topics and issues I have brought up way long ago. Made the same suggestion and it still happens. Others had made the same remarks about adding pics instead of links because of the obvious. Now I know you maybe unaware of this fact and this is the part where I could have came back w / a more subtle retort than I did.
Not every Monger is savvy in manipulating pics along w / their post. Understandable. There's been a few knowledgeable Mongers who try to assist in this process. But the practice of JUST adding the link & the link disappearing DOES get a little frustrating for those wanting to know the subject at hand.
I ask that new Mongers that come onto this site to not JUST take this site at face value. Take the time to read up and learn the forum / s so as to minimize redundancy, useless information & comments, and basically overall bullshit. Who knows, you may learn a thing or two w / out even soliciting it.
Your comment: "I like many to this forum am concerned about the prospects of being robbed. Recent posts about such an occurrence led to a lot of confusion of what providers were actually involved. Despite a lot of discussion, it appears some confusion still exists and I was trying to offer up a possible solution to preclude such confusion in the future. ".
My comment to your comment: So true, agree to every bit of it, and it's much appreciated. If you haven't got robbed yet in this game yet, you're either very new, very smart, or very lucky. Unfortunately, I'm none of those.
And Yeah, maybe I DO need some Headache relief. I get a little cranky when I make attempts to abstain from this game & struggling to go cold turkey. Get edgy & can't focus. Think I'm going to have to self-admit myself to one those counseling groups:
Group Counselor: "Welcome everyone. Let's all begin by introducing & telling a little bit about ourselves".
Poni: "Hello, My name is Poni and I'm addicted to pussy & blowjobs".
Group: "Hiii Poni!
Poni: "I had my first experience with pussy when I was born. ".
BSHM.
-PB.
**If you comment, take it to the "Woodshed". We're tying up space here.
Why didn't you just put it here hoss, I moved it.
A2
I read your remarks to my post at a quick glance w / out actually understanding the content and sentiment. There's a couple things that gets a little tiring on our forum / s:
1) Those continuously soliciting info w / out returning the favor and throwing down a review or post explicating good and / or bad experiences so others can benefit from it.
"Hey, anybody have info on this one?
"Hey, anybody seen this girl?
"Hey, maybe I should give a brief yet informative account since someone was nice enough to throw me a bone".
2) Posters who post posts so vague, so uninformative, and so lame and pointless, it makes me wonder why they even bothered even posting.
Here's an example that SM Quebec did up on 06-04-16 #1517 in the "The Woodshed" thread:
"Trend recently.
Here's my worthless report:
Banged this girl, man was she hot and freaky. Gave her a nice cream pie also!
Before that I had a really bad experience and got ripped off. Very dangerous situation.
Ok, hope these help!
3) AND those who come on here w / a sole purpose of giving their two cents and advice to others. To me it seems those guilty of doing so get more enjoyment out of that rather than highlighting any experiences they may or may not had.
Your remarks of:
"As soon as a fellow monger posts a derogatory comment about a negative experience with a provider, the provider if she happens to be following usasg, removes the ad from BP".
". to post separately a photo associated with the link before the provider has a chance to remove it".
My comment: These are the same exact topics and issues I have brought up way long ago. Made the same suggestion and it still happens. Others had made the same remarks about adding pics instead of links because of the obvious. Now I know you maybe unaware of this fact and this is the part where I could have came back w / a more subtle retort than I did.
Not every Monger is savvy in manipulating pics along w / their post. Understandable. There's been a few knowledgeable Mongers who try to assist in this process. But the practice of JUST adding the link & the link disappearing DOES get a little frustrating for those wanting to know the subject at hand.
I ask that new Mongers that come onto this site to not JUST take this site at face value. Take the time to read up and learn the forum / s so as to minimize redundancy, useless information & comments, and basically overall bullshit. Who knows, you may learn a thing or two w / out even soliciting it.
Your comment: "I like many to this forum am concerned about the prospects of being robbed. Recent posts about such an occurrence led to a lot of confusion of what providers were actually involved. Despite a lot of discussion, it appears some confusion still exists and I was trying to offer up a possible solution to preclude such confusion in the future. ".
My comment to your comment: So true, agree to every bit of it, and it's much appreciated. If you haven't got robbed yet in this game yet, you're either very new, very smart, or very lucky. Unfortunately, I'm none of those.
And Yeah, maybe I DO need some Headache relief. I get a little cranky when I make attempts to abstain from this game & struggling to go cold turkey. Get edgy & can't focus. Think I'm going to have to self-admit myself to one those counseling groups:
Group Counselor: "Welcome everyone. Let's all begin by introducing & telling a little bit about ourselves".
Poni: "Hello, My name is Poni and I'm addicted to pussy & blowjobs".
Group: "Hiii Poni!
Poni: "I had my first experience with pussy when I was born. ".
BSHM.
-PB.
**If you comment, take it to the "Woodshed". We're tying up space here.
Why didn't you just put it here hoss, I moved it.
A2My Bad.
-PB.
Member #5173
06-20-16, 10:54
I read your remarks to my post at a quick glance w / out actually understanding the content and sentiment. There's a couple things that gets a little tiring on our forum / s:
1) Those continuously soliciting info w / out returning the favor and throwing down a review or post explicating good and / or bad experiences so others can benefit from it.
"Hey, anybody have info on this one?
"Hey, anybody seen this girl?
"Hey, maybe I should give a brief yet informative account since someone was nice enough to throw me a bone".
2) Posters who post posts so vague, so uninformative, and so lame and pointless, it makes me wonder why they even bothered even posting.
Here's an example that SM Quebec did up on 06-04-16 #1517 in the "The Woodshed" thread:
"Trend recently.
Here's my worthless report:
Banged this girl, man was she hot and freaky. Gave her a nice cream pie also!
Before that I had a really bad experience and got ripped off. Very dangerous situation.
Ok, hope these help!
3) AND those who come on here w / a sole purpose of giving their two cents and advice to others. To me it seems those guilty of doing so get more enjoyment out of that rather than highlighting any experiences they may or may not had.
Your remarks of:
"As soon as a fellow monger posts a derogatory comment about a negative experience with a provider, the provider if she happens to be following usasg, removes the ad from BP".
". to post separately a photo associated with the link before the provider has a chance to remove it".
My comment: These are the same exact topics and issues I have brought up way long ago. Made the same suggestion and it still happens. Others had made the same remarks about adding pics instead of links because of the obvious. Now I know you maybe unaware of this fact and this is the part where I could have came back w / a more subtle retort than I did.
Not every Monger is savvy in manipulating pics along w / their post. Understandable. There's been a few knowledgeable Mongers who try to assist in this process. But the practice of JUST adding the link & the link disappearing DOES get a little frustrating for those wanting to know the subject at hand.
I ask that new Mongers that come onto this site to not JUST take this site at face value. Take the time to read up and learn the forum / s so as to minimize redundancy, useless information & comments, and basically overall bullshit. Who knows, you may learn a thing or two w / out even soliciting it.
Your comment: "I like many to this forum am concerned about the prospects of being robbed. Recent posts about such an occurrence led to a lot of confusion of what providers were actually involved. Despite a lot of discussion, it appears some confusion still exists and I was trying to offer up a possible solution to preclude such confusion in the future. ".
My comment to your comment: So true, agree to every bit of it, and it's much appreciated. If you haven't got robbed yet in this game yet, you're either very new, very smart, or very lucky. Unfortunately, I'm none of those.
And Yeah, maybe I DO need some Headache relief. I get a little cranky when I make attempts to abstain from this game & struggling to go cold turkey. Get edgy & can't focus. Think I'm going to have to self-admit myself to one those counseling groups:
Group Counselor: "Welcome everyone. Let's all begin by introducing & telling a little bit about ourselves".
Poni: "Hello, My name is Poni and I'm addicted to pussy & blowjobs".
Group: "Hiii Poni!
Poni: "I had my first experience with pussy when I was born. ".
BSHM.
-PB.
**If you comment, take it to the "Woodshed". We're tying up space here.
Why didn't you just put it here hoss, I moved it.
A2PoniBoi, thanks for the comments. I appreciate you getting back to me. You know back when I upgraded my VIC20 for the Commodore 64 this whole internet thing and the thought of websites dedicated to making the hobby of mongering safe were conceptually unfathomable. Consequently my passion for the sport bit me on the ass hard and often. I have been reading posts on this forum for about a year, and personally find much of what you say to be spot on. It is not to difficult to discern the useless posts, fake posts, or those that ask, ask, ask and give jack in return. And to be sure, historically I see a well documented record of the same costly mistakes being made over and over again, and lessons being relearned the hard way; this is spite of sage warning and advice. As for me, as I venture further into this tech era, I defer to and look to the experiences, both good and bad, of the most senior members. Many of you folks have paid the price of tuition for me and offer your sage advice free of charge. That said, some of you are just bat shit fucking crazy. I am, nonetheless, appreciative of all of you. I hope that in the future I too will come to be considered a valuable contributor to the forum. I've got a long way to go. As I read the last part of your post I laughed hysterically. Then I thought about it a little. I thought about my indirect experiences with AA, NA, SA, the Twelve Step program and many others. There are some interesting parallels. Some of my senior friends in these programs have shared with me their frustration with the "new members. " They hear the same shit over and over again, the same excuses, the same rants. What separates the sponsors from the new members is their willingness to take the newbies under their wing to help them in their recovery. For the sponsors it is same shit different day; despite having heard and seen just about everything, they persevere, teaching the same lessons over and over! Some of the newbies eventually wake up; some do not. I am convinced though, that redundancy for some helps; they finally get it; some, never will! To you and the several others on this forum that persist at trying to make the hobby a safe and enjoyable one through sharing your experiences, advice, and criticism, heartfelt thanks. By the way, I appreciate the many personal photos you choose to share with your forum friends. I am a big fan.
PoniBoi, thanks for the comments. I appreciate you getting back to me. You know back when I upgraded my VIC20 for the Commodore 64 this whole internet thing and the thought of websites dedicated to making the hobby of mongering safe were conceptually unfathomable. Consequently my passion for the sport bit me on the ass hard and often. I have been reading posts on this forum for about a year, and personally find much of what you say to be spot on. It is not to difficult to discern the useless posts, fake posts, or those that ask, ask, ask and give jack in return. And to be sure, historically I see a well documented record of the same costly mistakes being made over and over again, and lessons being relearned the hard way; this is spite of sage warning and advice. As for me, as I venture further into this tech era, I defer to and look to the experiences, both good and bad, of the most senior members. Many of you folks have paid the price of tuition for me and offer your sage advice free of charge. That said, some of you are just bat shit fucking crazy. I am, nonetheless, appreciative of all of you. I hope that in the future I too will come to be considered a valuable contributor to the forum. I've got a long way to go. As I read the last part of your post I laughed hysterically. Then I thought about it a little. I thought about my indirect experiences with AA, NA, SA, the Twelve Step program and many others. There are some interesting parallels. Some of my senior friends in these programs have shared with me their frustration with the "new members. " They hear the same shit over and over again, the same excuses, the same rants. What separates the sponsors from the new members is their willingness to take the newbies under their wing to help them in their recovery. For the sponsors it is same shit different day; despite having heard and seen just about everything, they persevere, teaching the same lessons over and over! Some of the newbies eventually wake up; some do not. I am convinced though, that redundancy for some helps; they finally get it; some, never will! To you and the several others on this forum that persist at trying to make the hobby a safe and enjoyable one through sharing your experiences, advice, and criticism, heartfelt thanks. By the way, I appreciate the many personal photos you choose to share with your forum friends. I am a big fan.And I'm glad we got things ironed out.
If you REALLY had been reading up on the board / s for a year, you should know most of the predominant Mongers of our forum. Powers hitters like CantB1, Fishguy, JaxDog, The Preacher, Quebec & DrewP (if you need some Asian MP persuasions *LOL😆 are just some that new members should follow. Theyve blazed trails for others to follow.
Me- I'm just a Poni tryin to get his next nut.
Anyways, lets end this convo before one of these smart-asses says something smart: "Hey you two!- get a room". LOL.
BSHM.
-PB.
BTW, some of you moochers (you know who you are), post something beneficial. Sheesh.
And I'm glad we got things ironed out.
If you REALLY had been reading up on the board / s for a year, you should know most of the predominant Mongers of our forum. Powers hitters like CantB1, Fishguy, JaxDog, The Preacher, Quebec & DrewP (if you need some Asian MP persuasions *LOL😆 are just some that new members should follow. Theyve blazed trails for others to follow.
Me- I'm just a Poni tryin to get his next nut.
Anyways, lets end this convo before one of these smart-asses says something smart: "Hey you two!- get a room". LOL.
BSHM.
-PB.
BTW, some of you moochers (you know who you are), post something beneficial. Sheesh.Alwaysspot o, with a laugh or two to follow. Tonto!
If you REALLY had been reading up on the board / s for a year, you should know most of the predominant Mongers of our forum. Powers hitters like CantB1, Fishguy, JaxDog, The Preacher, Quebec & DrewP (if you need some Asian MP persuasions). They've blazed trails for others to follow.Blazing the "Asian Trails" here in the Bold New City of the South. Ha ha ha. I'm lovin' it.
And I'm glad we got things ironed out.
If you REALLY had been reading up on the board / s for a year, you should know most of the predominant Mongers of our forum. Powers hitters like CantB1, Fishguy, JaxDog, The Preacher, Quebec & DrewP (if you need some Asian MP persuasions *LOL😆 are just some that new members should follow. Theyve blazed trails for others to follow.
Me- I'm just a Poni tryin to get his next nut.
Anyways, lets end this convo before one of these smart-asses says something smart: "Hey you two!- get a room". LOL.
BSHM.
-PB.
BTW, some of you moochers (you know who you are), post something beneficial. Sheesh.Thanks for the recognition, but there is only one Poni!
The Preacher
06-22-16, 20:10
Every time I see this ad pop up I have to pause for a few seconds to admire the prime cut of ass. Can any of you porn connoisseurs identify the owner of this perfect ass??
Good lord.
Every time I see this ad pop up I have to pause for a few seconds to admire the prime cut of ass. Can any of you porn connoisseurs identify the owner of this perfect ass??
Good lord.If I had to guess, Dani Daniels. Not that I recognize it but rather I really like hers and this is coming from a guy who is not an ass man.
Member #5069
06-26-16, 13:42
I was trying to get in touch with my ATF via e-mail this week and wasn't getting a response (I don't want to say who incase she is reading this and I may be wrong). Anyway, she always comes to see me on an outcall and always alone, but she never responded back until recently. When she did finally respond, she said she was at the xxxxxx hotel downtown. I asked her if we could meet up and she said her car broke down on 95 and she is stuck at the hotel but if I can come see her by checkout tomorrow am we can meet up. I don't visit people at hotels and asked her to come to me and she said he can have a friend bring her. (I am thinking hmmmm). So I thought about it and the next morning I said I will come see her but can't get there until afternoon. I got no response. I e-mailed her through her BP add yesterday and immediately I get a response from an old e-mail I sent her a while ago and the e-mail address that sent it is different. Also, she types her name in her e-mails (like a signature) at the end and the name in the last e-mail was misspelled. Who misspells their own name? LOL. I think she may've been busted and it could've been a set up. This person has been around a very long time and she has nothing but stellar reviews and I think she may've been busted. What do you guys think? I will consider letting you know via PM if you want to.
I was trying to get in touch with my ATF via e-mail this week and wasn't getting a response (I don't want to say who incase she is reading this and I may be wrong). Anyway, she always comes to see me on an outcall and always alone, but she never responded back until recently. When she did finally respond, she said she was at the xxxxxx hotel downtown. I asked her if we could meet up and she said her car broke down on 95 and she is stuck at the hotel but if I can come see her by checkout tomorrow am we can meet up. I don't visit people at hotels and asked her to come to me and she said he can have a friend bring her. (I am thinking hmmmm). So I thought about it and the next morning I said I will come see her but can't get there until afternoon. I got no response. I e-mailed her through her BP add yesterday and immediately I get a response from an old e-mail I sent her a while ago and the e-mail address that sent it is different. Also, she types her name in her e-mails (like a signature) at the end and the name in the last e-mail was misspelled. Who misspells their own name? LOL. I think she may've been busted and it could've been a set up. This person has been around a very long time and she has nothing but stellar reviews and I think she may've been busted. What do you guys think? I will consider letting you know via PM if you want to.Not busted, no set up. More likely than not is the pimp in charge of all the communications now. That could explain the misspelled name. Pimps are not necessarily English majors. That's my opinion.
I was trying to get in touch with my ATF via e-mail this week and wasn't getting a response (I don't want to say who incase she is reading this and I may be wrong). Anyway, she always comes to see me on an outcall and always alone, but she never responded back until recently. When she did finally respond, she said she was at the xxxxxx hotel downtown. I asked her if we could meet up and she said her car broke down on 95 and she is stuck at the hotel but if I can come see her by checkout tomorrow am we can meet up. I don't visit people at hotels and asked her to come to me and she said he can have a friend bring her. (I am thinking hmmmm). So I thought about it and the next morning I said I will come see her but can't get there until afternoon. I got no response. I e-mailed her through her BP add yesterday and immediately I get a response from an old e-mail I sent her a while ago and the e-mail address that sent it is different. Also, she types her name in her e-mails (like a signature) at the end and the name in the last e-mail was misspelled. Who misspells their own name? LOL. I think she may've been busted and it could've been a set up. This person has been around a very long time and she has nothing but stellar reviews and I think she may've been busted. What do you guys think? I will consider letting you know via PM if you want to.You two can meet in a public place so you can make a better assessment?
-PB.
Member #5069
06-27-16, 08:09
You two can meet in a public place so you can make a better assessment?
-PB.If she would my respond to my e-mails about meeting again, but she has gone silent, which causes caution on my part.
Member #5069
06-27-16, 08:11
Not busted, no set up. More likely than not is the pimp in charge of all the communications now. That could explain the misspelled name. Pimps are not necessarily English majors. That's my opinion.She has been around a long time and has always been independent. Her reviews are off the charts fabulous and no mention in any of them about ever having management. I'm just no sure.
if she would my respond to my e-mails about meeting again, but she has gone silent, which causes caution on my part.next!
-pb.
She has been around a long time and has always been independent. Her reviews are off the charts fabulous and no mention in any of them about ever having management. I'm just no sure.Only one provider comes to mind in by your description. Reads this forum, been around for a long time and nothing but stellar reviews. No mention of management. Hmmmm. Could it be?
But how much do any of us really know about any provider? Women lie. Men lie. Hookers don't lie, they preform. I know who would give an Oscar to.
Member #5173
06-27-16, 20:32
I was trying to get in touch with my ATF via e-mail this week and wasn't getting a response (I don't want to say who incase she is reading this and I may be wrong). Anyway, she always comes to see me on an outcall and always alone, but she never responded back until recently. When she did finally respond, she said she was at the xxxxxx hotel downtown. I asked her if we could meet up and she said her car broke down on 95 and she is stuck at the hotel but if I can come see her by checkout tomorrow am we can meet up. I don't visit people at hotels and asked her to come to me and she said he can have a friend bring her. (I am thinking hmmmm). So I thought about it and the next morning I said I will come see her but can't get there until afternoon. I got no response. I e-mailed her through her BP add yesterday and immediately I get a response from an old e-mail I sent her a while ago and the e-mail address that sent it is different. Also, she types her name in her e-mails (like a signature) at the end and the name in the last e-mail was misspelled. Who misspells their own name? LOL. I think she may've been busted and it could've been a set up. This person has been around a very long time and she has nothing but stellar reviews and I think she may've been busted. What do you guys think? I will consider letting you know via PM if you want to.Listen, if my spidey senses are in hyper alert mode I tend to lean on the side of conservatism and exercise caution. That said, I have flat assed read the situation wrong sometimes and it has cost me what could have been a quality dream. Many mongers have an aversion to going to residences, hotels and extended stays. Several prefer car dates, visits to their own hotel rooms, and their residences. These preferences all stem from personal experiences and circumstances both good and bad. I am one monger that has no problem going to a hotel room or extended stay to visit an old friend. Car or home visits are not an option with me. It has been said many times on this forum; be cognizant of what you say in phone conversation and text messages with providers. Mention of money or requested services is never ever a good idea. I don't care how familiar you are with a specific individual. To be sure, it happens all the time, and occasionally a monger will get bit on the ass for it. There is no crime in asking a girl to hang out with you for a while; no problem asking them out on date; no problem asking for a little companionship. When one starts saying I will give you this for this, then it becomes problematic. Giving donations up front is also problematic for a plethora of reasons; got to go with your gut on that one. Provider's situations change on a daily basis; this in terms of location, services provided, requested donation, specific needs, and yes whether they work with someone or work alone. There is never going to be a LE issue posed by you asking a friend if it is ok if they are not too busy for you to come hang out with them for a while. Once you arrive on location you should be able to get a better read of the situation. If uncomfortable, bail. If not, your dreams may become reality.
Member #5069
06-28-16, 07:16
Only one provider comes to mind in by your description. Reads this forum, been around for a long time and nothing but stellar reviews. No mention of management. Hmmmm. Could it be?
But how much do any of us really know about any provider? Women lie. Men lie. Hookers don't lie, they preform. I know who would give an Oscar to.We talked for about her 20 min (or actually she did, LOL). She literally kept rambling on and on about everything and nothing at the same time. Been around a long time and thought I heard everything, LOL Nope. She claims her car is still in the shop and we can get together later in the week because her legs are all marked up from doing backflips at the hotel pool. LOL. Not kidding, that's what she told me. Said it will be later in the week and we can get together. Also stated her trusted friend that will bring her is an uber driver and she will make up a reason for her to driver her to come see me. Who knows.
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You're more than welcome to post shit that starts fights here. As a matter of fact, as that genre goes this was a pretty good one. However, even here, you gotta take the number, or at lease the exchange, out of the screen shots hoss.
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Member #5209
06-28-16, 07:45
Touch on another of you guys bread and butter. Yeah how dare I. There where a few messages before that's said "Can you do. 50?" She replied long wind with what does her ad say and how she is disgusted that I would come at her longer that. In turn I say sorry I got the full request and I'm on the area what's up. She claim she was going out of her way to make this happen. But I had to go to work. She could have save us both time without the long text and maybe could made it happen, thought for a sec is this BearB been so long winded over simple stuff. Just want to share, oh and I've seen this individual a hand full times with discounted rates, think because I changed numbers she thought I was someone who hasn't seen her. But yeah who really cares. Fellows, You know what to do, let the finger waging and brow beating began. Bring the noise!I got just about the same thing from her 2 weeks ago. I actually made an appointment then she went comms dark. Waited a few days and tried again and no response until I told her it was effed up and she went on a rant telling me how she didn't need my $ and had so many pl that wafted to see her. Funny part is I used to treat her with upmost respect. She is now on my do not call list.
Listen, if my spidey senses are in hyper alert mode I tend to lean on the side of conservatism and exercise caution. That said, I have flat assed read the situation wrong sometimes and it has cost me what could have been a quality dream. Many mongers have an aversion to going to residences, hotels and extended stays. Several prefer car dates, visits to their own hotel rooms, and their residences. These preferences all stem from personal experiences and circumstances both good and bad. I am one monger that has no problem going to a hotel room or extended stay to visit an old friend. Car or home visits are not an option with me. It has been said many times on this forum; be cognizant of what you say in phone conversation and text messages with providers. Mention of money or requested services is never ever a good idea. I don't care how familiar you are with a specific individual. To be sure, it happens all the time, and occasionally a monger will get bit on the ass for it. There is no crime in asking a girl to hang out with you for a while; no problem asking them out on date; no problem asking for a little companionship. When one starts saying I will give you this for this, then it becomes problematic. Giving donations up front is also problematic for a plethora of reasons; got to go with your gut on that one. Provider's situations change on a daily basis; this in terms of location, services provided, requested donation, specific needs, and yes whether they work with someone or work alone. There is never going to be a LE issue posed by you asking a friend if it is ok if they are not too busy for you to come hang out with them for a while. Once you arrive on location you should be able to get a better read of the situation. If uncomfortable, bail. If not, your dreams may become reality.Does anyone know if there is a statute of limitations on any of this? Such as phone records, actual time together, etc? My personal opinion is that cops don't give a shit unless there are drugs involved or they are doing a crackdown to save political face. With the heroin epidemic and murder rate they probably have much bigger fish to fry.
KittyLikker
06-28-16, 11:44
Touch on another of you guys bread and butter. Yeah how dare I. There where a few messages before that's said "Can you do. 50?" She replied long wind with what does her ad say and how she is disgusted that I would come at her longer that. In turn I say sorry I got the full request and I'm on the area what's up. She claim she was going out of her way to make this happen. But I had to go to work. She could have save us both time without the long text and maybe could made it happen, thought for a sec is this BearB been so long winded over simple stuff. Just want to share, oh and I've seen this individual a hand full times with discounted rates, think because I changed numbers she thought I was someone who hasn't seen her. But yeah who really cares. Fellows, You know what to do, let the finger waging and brow beating began. Bring the noise!If you can get what you want at a discount and it makes you feel good, more power to you. But if I were a Provider I wouldn't want you wasting my time with your bullshit.
If you can get what you want at a discount and it makes you feel good, more power to you. But if I were a Provider I wouldn't want you wasting my time with your bullshit.Why it got to be bullshit? Its the ArtOfAGoodTip if you catch my drift. Wheeling dealing is what its all about. Right? I can only wish you where a provider then and only then you know what it bullshit all about.
Apparently after someone offers up $$ . 50 and you turn it down you can talk to who ever how ever you see fit.
Apparently after someone offers up $$ . 50 and you turn it down you can talk to who ever how ever you see fit.So let me get this straight. A provider (most of us know) posts her ad that includes rates.
You decide to negotiate off those posted rates.
She refuses your counter.
She's upset.
You're upset (otherwise why would you be posting her text messages), and you want to show us how unreasonable she is for not accepting your counteroffer?
Did I get that right?
J4 me.
Apparently after someone offers up $$ . 50 and you turn it down you can talk to who ever how ever you see fit.So you decide to play games with Rikki? I guess you have nothing better to do. You went all the way to San Marco Nikki house with your antics. I see no point you have to make in any of your post. I guess we are all on this site for different reasons. Your is to show how much drama you can cause. How about showing us all the BP providers you have gotten to partake in your 40 to 50 offers.
Apparently after someone offers up $$ . 50 and you turn it down you can talk to who ever how ever you see fit.With you on this. For most guys replacing a provider is like pulling your finger out of a glass of water, that's how quickly the void can be filled. It's a buyers, not a sellers market. If I was actually on the hunt, I would be the first to say no girl should get the same hourly rate as a corporate attorney. At least with the attorney, you will know exactly what you get for the fucking. Typically, if you are nice and polite while asking if they are offering "specials", the provider will be polite as well and very willingly offer discounts. If they aren't, who the fuck would want to be with a them and their attitude anyways? Either they are willing to negotiate or they aren't, it as simple as that. I can guarantee you they aren't getting their full asking price every time. On top of that, some of the guys bitching about negotiating with a provider will be the same ones bitching about how prices have skyrocketed down the road.
So, more power to you and stay safe! Just be polite and treat them with respect. Treat them as you yourself would want to be treated.
KittyLikker
06-28-16, 14:40
With you on this. For most guys replacing a provider is like pulling your finger out of a glass of water, that's how quickly the void can be filled. It's a buyers, not a sellers market. If I was actually on the hunt, I would be the first to say no girl should get the same hourly rate as a corporate attorney. At least with the attorney, you will know exactly what you get for the fucking. Typically, if you are nice and polite while asking if they are offering "specials", the provider will be polite as well and very willingly offer discounts. If they aren't, who the fuck would want to be with a them and their attitude anyways? Either they are willing to negotiate or they aren't, it as simple as that. I can guarantee you they aren't getting their full asking price every time. On top of that, some of the guys bitching about negotiating with a provider will be the same ones bitching about how prices have skyrocketed down the road.
So, more power to you and stay safe! Just be polite and treat them with respect. Treat them as you yourself would want to be treated.I'm with you RT on this, some quoted prices are crazy to me.
I don't think anybody has said the first word criticizing anyone for negotiating, that is not the issue here for me. It's that respect part that you mention (and I agree with) that is the issue. When I call a gal with high or unpublished rates, I offer what I am willing to donate and try to work out something we can agree upon. If we can't come to an agreement, I say thanks and goodbye and I dial the next number. The end.
No degrading or guilt tripping the provider, no trying to convince her that she is missing out or worth less than she is asking, and certainly no coming on here and whining about it and trying to smear her. Those are the things I was responding to.
So let me get this straight. A provider (most of us know) posts her ad that includes rates.
You decide to negotiate off those posted rates.
She refuses your counter.
She's upset.
You're upset (otherwise why would you be posting her text messages), and you want to show us how unreasonable she is for not accepting your counteroffer?
Did I get that right?
J4 me.Umm well, not quite. See I never got upset. And yes I did try to make it right, but she flew of the handle, if you could have seen the previous post before I had to clean it all up then you would have seen my responses to her brow beating me. I actually want to put on display for entertainment purposes. The first post was so much better and entertaining this watered down one. Plus theres also some context in there that I was hoping some who was Pro Monger would read and point out so that it wouldn't just be coming from me to making me seem bias.
With you on this. For most guys replacing a provider is like pulling your finger out of a glass of water, that's how quickly the void can be filled. It's a buyers, not a sellers market. If I was actually on the hunt, I would be the first to say no girl should get the same hourly rate as a corporate attorney. At least with the attorney, you will know exactly what you get for the fucking. Typically, if you are nice and polite while asking if they are offering "specials", the provider will be polite as well and very willingly offer discounts. If they aren't, who the fuck would want to be with a them and their attitude anyways? Either they are willing to negotiate or they aren't, it as simple as that. I can guarantee you they aren't getting their full asking price every time. On top of that, some of the guys bitching about negotiating with a provider will be the same ones bitching about how prices have skyrocketed down the road.
So, more power to you and stay safe! Just be polite and treat them with respect. Treat them as you yourself would want to be treated.I am always polite and quite apologetic at times that need be, I only come off like a dick in the woodshed. I show respect to provider even when its not return cause I figure they are having a hard enough time as it is and don't need another swing dick calling and texting been rude and nasty, cause that just cause them to be that way with next person that calls.
Umm well, not quite. See I never got upset. And yes I did try to make it right, but she flew of the handle, if you could have seen the previous post before I had to clean it all up then you would have seen my responses to her brow beating me. I actually want to put on display for entertainment purposes. The first post was so much better and entertaining this watered down one. Plus theres also some context in there that I was hoping some who was Pro Monger would read and point out so that it wouldn't just be coming from me to making me seem bias.Her most recent BP post:
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/available-now-blanding-incall-hour-special-150-g-f-e/9614652
Rates are included. And a pesky stipulation of "Non Negotiable". Assuming that you responded to the BP Ad.
You: Good morning. Are you available?
Her: Good morning. Yes.
You: Are your rates negotiable?
Her: No.
You: Thanks. Have a great day.
And you move on to the next gal.
If she responds with "yes" (I'm willing to negotiate). Then you do so respectfully, knowing that if you really "low ball" her. You do so at the risk of being placed on her exclusionary list. If you don't care about that then go ahead and blow yourself up.
Everyone has their own approach.
For what its worth. When I meet a provider for the first time, I usually go for a QV or 30 minutes. I generally pay close to full asking price. If the encounter goes well (we click), she realizes that I'm cool, clean, and sociable. Then I tend to negotiate price, differentiated service, length of encounter. It has worked for me more often than not. Because providers aren't indifferent when it comes to their clients. All things being equal, they would prefer to suck a dick from someone who isn't a dick.
My 2 cents.
J4 me.
We talked for about her 20 min (or actually she did, LOL). She literally kept rambling on and on about everything and nothing at the same time. Been around a long time and thought I heard everything, LOL Nope. She claims her car is still in the shop and we can get together later in the week because her legs are all marked up from doing backflips at the hotel pool. LOL. Not kidding, that's what she told me. Said it will be later in the week and we can get together. Also stated her trusted friend that will bring her is an uber driver and she will make up a reason for her to driver her to come see me. Who knows.Hmmm. So she likes going to the hotel pool too? I have pics of thehe provider I have in mind at the hotel pool last summer. I'm still curios if it's the same girl. Could it be? LOL.
Her most recent BP post:
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/available-now-blanding-incall-hour-special-150-g-f-e/9614652
Rates are included. And a pesky stipulation of "Non Negotiable". Assuming that you responded to the BP Ad.
You: Good morning. Are you available?
Her: Good morning. Yes.
You: Are your rates negotiable?
Her: No.
You: Thanks. Have a great day.
And you move on to the next gal.
If she responds with "yes" (I'm willing to negotiate). Then you do so respectfully, knowing that if you really "low ball" her. You do so at the risk of being placed on her exclusionary list. If you don't care about that then go ahead and blow yourself up.
Everyone has their own approach.
For what its worth. When I meet a provider for the first time, I usually go for a QV or 30 minutes. I generally pay close to full asking price. If the encounter goes well (we click), she realizes that I'm cool, clean, and sociable. Then I tend to negotiate price, differentiated service, length of encounter. It has worked for me more often than not. Because providers aren't indifferent when it comes to their clients. All things being equal, they would prefer to suck a dick from someone who isn't a dick.
My 2 cents.
J4 me.I would speculate that most (I say most) who post ads don't give 2 shits about who they see as long as they get paid. You will never convince me that they are "picky" about who they are fucking for money. Especially some of the ogres from this site!
Member #5069
06-28-16, 18:06
Does anyone know if there is a statute of limitations on any of this? Such as phone records, actual time together, etc? My personal opinion is that cops don't give a shit unless there are drugs involved or they are doing a crackdown to save political face. With the heroin epidemic and murder rate they probably have much bigger fish to fry.Of offering money for sex, I would say there is no such thing. That's just my opinion.
If you can get what you want at a discount and it makes you feel good, more power to you. But if I were a Provider I wouldn't want you wasting my time with your bullshit.Have to agree here. This hobby isn't going to the dealership and buying a car. These girls don't need to be nice when you try and lowball them. The aforementioned provider is one of the better quality ones in jax and if you scan backpage has some of the best rates around too. She is possibly currently the best oral provider in Jax since the retirement of one in particular.
If you haggle and argue at the dealership when 2 other customers come in and take their business to the other salespeople due to you trying to get $10 off then of course they are going to be pissed. They made nothing in the time you took trying to get a deal, and also lost out on money with guys who were waiting.
These girls like Rikki who are a known and popular will ignore guys who lowball. You make it more hassle that it's worth when another guy is ready to pay full price. And they know down the road you will just continue to offer less and it will be more work for them.
If you want to haggle go to the flea market and if. 6 is too much, then go to hooterville.
I've seen several providers for less than the posted rates but I never Haggle either. I just have my ways that work for me.
BlueDevil90
06-28-16, 19:37
Does anyone know if there is a statute of limitations on any of this? Such as phone records, actual time together, etc? My personal opinion is that cops don't give a shit unless there are drugs involved or they are doing a crackdown to save political face. With the heroin epidemic and murder rate they probably have much bigger fish to fry.FLorida has a 1 year statue of limitations on 2nd degree non violent crimes if I'm not mistaken but even if they were to use recordings and text they would have to prove you committed the act. But like you said they have bigger fish to fry and it's not worth it trying to go after a solicitation charge unless your messing with minors then shit gets ugly.
Member #5173
06-28-16, 22:14
Saw your earlier post pertaining to Rikki before it was removed. Sorry, brevity has never been one of my strong suits, but I am working on it. Another of my many misgivings is difficulty when it comes to the art of negotiations. A difference of $10 for me in cases such as you describe will never make the difference between my being happy versus frustrated. That is just me. I do want to be very clear about one thing though. I will never have a discussion with a prospective dream girl about money for services. A phone record of negotiation of price for services with a provider could potentially result in both the provider and the monger being charged with solicitation. A2 has done you a favor. It is embarrassing, could cost an individual his job, and if one is married or in a relationship, just fuck that all away. I've seen it happen far too often. And some of my closest friends continue to do it regardless of the problems that can occur. It sucks that you are having difficulties with Rikki. Am guessing you have glanced my review of her. I have not had any problems with her at all. She makes me happy; is a true GFE. Her requested contribution for entertainment, for me, is reasonable. I prefer to schedule visits for an hour. Sometimes constrained by other obligations I have to limit my visits to 30 minutes. Believe me if I could accomplish in 15 minutes what some of the younger mongers can, I would die a much happier man; and probably wealthier. Well maybe not.
"I can do this all day" -Steve Rogers Why are we (meaning yall, peeps with 100 + post) so hard on everyone else experience. You would have thought I made the poor girl carry her own cross two miles in the heat the nailed her to it with a crown of thorns and for good measure stuck her in the side with a spear. It was only. 10 difference. Now what I thought some one would have pull from her messages was that she claim she already had two others texting her asking her for her time, so why would she go out of her way of getting a sure thing vs something she already knew didn't have time for. I text my ideal spending like to do with all others and it either no response which I don't hound and make them respond or a simple no not today, and I move on. Now what got me confuse is why are you guy getting so bent out of shape about how I choose to operate. Thought we were all on the same team. Providing intel on the providers to make things easier on us. Thought this was our board, not theirs. I say this much and leave it at that. I had this chick the other day who had a room, but since I only offered. 40 she said it had to be a car date, alright cool. So pick her up at her notel and before I pull off I ask her "you play by you rules right?" she said yes, and in return I told her I play by mine. Not I didn't take how she operates from her and made do as I wanted, she laid out her rules and I laid out mine. Couldn't meet on common terms so I told her I catch her later. No harm no foul. I get the whole good provider don't make it hard on them and people like you make it harder for dudes like us thing, but did you ever stop and consider the amount of guys that contact them that are not on this board which I'm sure is more of them then there is us cause honestly all we see on this board is repeat poster with the same old intel on the same old providers. So I ask ProMonger or ProProvider as far as this board goes. Besides they don't give two shits about you / us til you waving that almighty dollar around. Lickwood means 'fast forward" gunship means "rewind".
To me, the hobby is about adventures with my dick. I've done enough dickering over real money to last three lifetimes, the last thing I'm interested in is beating down a gal who is about to get busy with me for the sake of saving a Hamilton or Jackson or two. I don't need the practice & they do need the money & for the experiences I'm provided, it is money well spent. Have I ever given more than I "should" have? I'm sure some would think so. In a few cases, I would even agree. But I don't like talking about money, period, & that goes double with providers I have not met before.
I freely admit, I'm not out there in front, mining gold, taking one for the team, or searching for unicorns the way some of you guys are. I do my homework & find out what I need to know about a provider's financial requirements before I ever contact her. When we do meet, I am my lovable, cuddly self, so consequently I develop repeat relationships & when I do get time to play, I get my fucking ashes hauled.
That, for me, is the whole point of this. The only point.
To me, the hobby is about adventures with my dick. I've done enough dickering over real money to last three lifetimes, the last thing I'm interested in is beating down a gal who is about to get busy with me for the sake of saving a Hamilton or Jackson or two. I don't need the practice & they do need the money & for the experiences I'm provided, it is money well spent. Have I ever given more than I "should" have? I'm sure some would think so. In a few cases, I would even agree. But I don't like talking about money, period, & that goes double with providers I have not met before.
I freely admit, I'm not out there in front, mining gold, taking one for the team, or searching for unicorns the way some of you guys are. I do my homework & find out what I need to know about a provider's financial requirements before I ever contact her. When we do meet, I am my lovable, cuddly self, so consequently I develop repeat relationships & when I do get time to play, I get my fucking ashes hauled.
That, for me, is the whole point of this. The only point.I like your style!
Hey TBear, what's that saying "You can catch more flies with? LOL.
Member #5173
06-29-16, 06:56
FLorida has a 1 year statue of limitations on 2nd degree non violent crimes if I'm not mistaken but even if they were to use recordings and text they would have to prove you committed the act. But like you said they have bigger fish to fry and it's not worth it trying to go after a solicitation charge unless your messing with minors then shit gets ugly.I think this forum might not be the best place to seek answers to questions on legal issues; one is likely to get as many different answers as there are mongers on the site, and most of the answers are likely to be flat assed wrong. There is a legal term in Florida law called "intent. " This innocuous harmless little word has resulted in a lot of brothers ending up in jail simply because their actions suggested an intent to commit a transgression without actually following through with the deed itself. In some cases a good legal defense can get charges dismissed on some of the bullshit, but at what cost. Can the term "intent" be applied to warrant solicitation charges? I am not sure. One thing I am sure of is with the rapidly changing tech world, interpretation of the law and how it applied is also changing.
Member #5173
06-29-16, 07:11
"I can do this all day" -Steve Rogers Why are we (meaning yall, peeps with 100 + post) so hard on everyone else experience. You would have thought I made the poor girl carry her own cross two miles in the heat the nailed her to it with a crown of thorns and for good measure stuck her in the side with a spear. It was only. 10 difference. Now what I thought some one would have pull from her messages was that she claim she already had two others texting her asking her for her time, so why would she go out of her way of getting a sure thing vs something she already knew didn't have time for. I text my ideal spending like to do with all others and it either no response which I don't hound and make them respond or a simple no not today, and I move on. Now what got me confuse is why are you guy getting so bent out of shape about how I choose to operate. Thought we were all on the same team. Providing intel on the providers to make things easier on us. Thought this was our board, not theirs. I say this much and leave it at that. I had this chick the other day who had a room, but since I only offered. 40 she said it had to be a car date, alright cool. So pick her up at her notel and before I pull off I ask her "you play by you rules right?" she said yes, and in return I told her I play by mine. Not I didn't take how she operates from her and made do as I wanted, she laid out her rules and I laid out mine. Couldn't meet on common terms so I told her I catch her later. No harm no foul. I get the whole good provider don't make it hard on them and people like you make it harder for dudes like us thing, but did you ever stop and consider the amount of guys that contact them that are not on this board which I'm sure is more of them then there is us cause honestly all we see on this board is repeat poster with the same old intel on the same old providers. So I ask ProMonger or ProProvider as far as this board goes. Besides they don't give two shits about you / us til you waving that almighty dollar around. Lickwood means 'fast forward" gunship means "rewind".Hey, I am not a senior member with 100's of posts under my belt, but I will take a stab at answering the question for you. You see, sometimes younger mongers demonstrate through their actions and rambling diatribe such a level of immaturity and inexperience in the hobby, the seniors reach out to the younger monger in hopes of helping him from doing something stupid and stepping on his dick so hard that he ends up in trouble. Is that succinct enough for you?
Member #5069
06-29-16, 07:31
Hmmm. So she likes going to the hotel pool too? I have pics of thehe provider I have in mind at the hotel pool last summer. I'm still curios if it's the same girl. Could it be? LOL.With your guess and I will let you know if you are correct.
Member #5069
06-29-16, 07:32
Hmmm. So she likes going to the hotel pool too? I have pics of thehe provider I have in mind at the hotel pool last summer. I'm still curios if it's the same girl. Could it be? LOL.And I will let you know if you are correct.
Member #5173
06-29-16, 07:40
With you on this. For most guys replacing a provider is like pulling your finger out of a glass of water, that's how quickly the void can be filled. It's a buyers, not a sellers market. If I was actually on the hunt, I would be the first to say no girl should get the same hourly rate as a corporate attorney. At least with the attorney, you will know exactly what you get for the fucking. Typically, if you are nice and polite while asking if they are offering "specials", the provider will be polite as well and very willingly offer discounts. If they aren't, who the fuck would want to be with a them and their attitude anyways? Either they are willing to negotiate or they aren't, it as simple as that. I can guarantee you they aren't getting their full asking price every time. On top of that, some of the guys bitching about negotiating with a provider will be the same ones bitching about how prices have skyrocketed down the road.
So, more power to you and stay safe! Just be polite and treat them with respect. Treat them as you yourself would want to be treated.With the exception of agreeing totally with your comment about the importance of being polite and respectful in ones relationships with providers, I could not disagree more with everything else in your post. Not all providers are the same; not even close. Finding the perfect piece of ass is a lifelong pursuit. There is a lot of hit / miss in this hobby, and when a monger finds something close to his individual concept of perfection, last thing he wants to do is fuck it away over some senseless $10.00 negotiation strategy. If an individual really believes once he has had one piece of ass he has had them all, my suggestion would be that person start saving his hard earned money and start jerking off on a more regular basis. And please, if you know the name of an attorney that works as hard in an hour or gives up more to bring a client satisfaction as some (not all) of our providers do, PM me a name. I may very well need one in the future.
Member #5173
06-29-16, 07:46
To me, the hobby is about adventures with my dick. I've done enough dickering over real money to last three lifetimes, the last thing I'm interested in is beating down a gal who is about to get busy with me for the sake of saving a Hamilton or Jackson or two. I don't need the practice & they do need the money & for the experiences I'm provided, it is money well spent. Have I ever given more than I "should" have? I'm sure some would think so. In a few cases, I would even agree. But I don't like talking about money, period, & that goes double with providers I have not met before.
I freely admit, I'm not out there in front, mining gold, taking one for the team, or searching for unicorns the way some of you guys are. I do my homework & find out what I need to know about a provider's financial requirements before I ever contact her. When we do meet, I am my lovable, cuddly self, so consequently I develop repeat relationships & when I do get time to play, I get my fucking ashes hauled.
That, for me, is the whole point of this. The only point.Nice to know there is another monger out there that approaches this hobby the way I do; safe, and at the end of the day happy.
Member #5069
06-29-16, 07:52
Hmmm. So she likes going to the hotel pool too? I have pics of thehe provider I have in mind at the hotel pool last summer. I'm still curios if it's the same girl. Could it be? LOL.And I will let you know if your guess is right.
With the exception of agreeing totally with your comment about the importance of being polite and respectful in ones relationships with providers, I could not disagree more with everything else in your post. Not all providers are the same; not even close. Finding the perfect piece of ass is a lifelong pursuit. There is a lot of hit / miss in this hobby, and when a monger finds something close to his individual concept of perfection, last thing he wants to do is fuck it away over some senseless $10.00 negotiation strategy. If an individual really believes once he has had one piece of ass he has had them all, my suggestion would be that person start saving his hard earned money and start jerking off on a more regular basis. And please, if you know the name of an attorney that works as hard in an hour or gives up more to bring a client satisfaction as some (not all) of our providers do, PM me a name. I may very well need one in the future.There are all types of mongers, just as there are all types of providers. Some are good, some bad. As such there are likely providers for any type of monger out there.
I'd wager there is even a subset of both providers and mongers, in which rapport means very little if nothing. Perhaps the candy starved street urchins you find wandering streets at night. Some of them could care less about rapport, or cleanliness, or civility. They are looking for candy money, as quickly, efficiently, and as risky as it comes.
That subset, is not the one that I spend most of my time, although I confess I'm prone to an impulsive purchase from time to time.
I try to spend most of time sourcing providers that care about cleanliness, safety, and civility. For those providers, rapport does matter. And with rapport, comes preferred treatment. Those providers generally seek return customers, because return customers are less risky and cheaper than sourcing new clients (yep, providers can be rationale. And selective).
So, for those who think that providers don't care whose dick they insert, from the seemingly endless texts by marauding mongers, perhaps its because they are dealing with a very different subset of providers than some us. Heck, the market is large and varied enough, and it would explain their views on this topic.
As for me, I'm sourcing providers where rapport matters. Where a credible provider will differentiate and is willing to call bullshit on a dick. And dicks truly need that feedback so that they can improve their success rate within the market segment they are sourcing, because after all its about getting the pussy. And who doesn't want a dick to find a pussy?
But then again, I've never met a dick that realized he was one. They typically think everyone else is.
My last post on this topic.
J4 me.
With the exception of agreeing totally with your comment about the importance of being polite and respectful in ones relationships with providers, I could not disagree more with everything else in your post. Not all providers are the same; not even close. Finding the perfect piece of ass is a lifelong pursuit. There is a lot of hit / miss in this hobby, and when a monger finds something close to his individual concept of perfection, last thing he wants to do is fuck it away over some senseless $10.00 negotiation strategy. If an individual really believes once he has had one piece of ass he has had them all, my suggestion would be that person start saving his hard earned money and start jerking off on a more regular basis. And please, if you know the name of an attorney that works as hard in an hour or gives up more to bring a client satisfaction as some (not all) of our providers do, PM me a name. I may very well need one in the future.I guess if you say and think you are right, you are right. I'll stand behind what I stated, I'm plenty comfortable with what I do and have managed for quite a long time. It's not a religious experience, it's just something on the side. Stay safe!
Member #5173
06-29-16, 19:46
I guess if you say and think you are right, you are right. I'll stand behind what I stated, I'm plenty comfortable with what I do and have managed for quite a long time. It's not a religious experience, it's just something on the side. Stay safe!You stay safe too Red Talon. I love your posts.
NotQyteNeo
06-30-16, 18:15
Her most recent BP post:
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/available-now-blanding-incall-hour-special-150-g-f-e/9614652
Rates are included. And a pesky stipulation of "Non Negotiable". Assuming that you responded to the BP Ad.
You: Good morning. Are you available?
Her: Good morning. Yes.
You: Are your rates negotiable?
Her: No.
You: Thanks. Have a great day.
And you move on to the next gal.
If she responds with "yes" (I'm willing to negotiate). Then you do so respectfully, knowing that if you really "low ball" her. You do so at the risk of being placed on her exclusionary list. If you don't care about that then go ahead and blow yourself up.
Everyone has their own approach.
For what its worth. When I meet a provider for the first time, I usually go for a QV or 30 minutes. I generally pay close to full asking price. If the encounter goes well (we click), she realizes that I'm cool, clean, and sociable. Then I tend to negotiate price, differentiated service, length of encounter. It has worked for me more often than not. Because providers aren't indifferent when it comes to their clients. All things being equal, they would prefer to suck a dick from someone who isn't a dick.
My 2 cents.
J4 me.Have to agree. I have seen her ads and she always says non-negotiable. What is difficult to understand here? I'm kinda stumped at those wanting the low-rate, high volume providers and also want no cover. Playing Russian roulette with your life IMO.
Each other's post and methods and co signing, I'm going to fuck her for 40 or less with cover of course. It what I do, kind of my thing, it's how I get off. So you can all go blow each other and burn your hard earn dividends on a slow boat to China. Peace You pussy whip fags.
NotQyteNeo
06-30-16, 21:44
Each other's post and methods and co signing, I'm going to fuck her for 40 or less with cover of course. It what I do, kind of my thing, it's how I get off. So you can all go blow each other and burn your hard earn dividends on a slow boat to China. Peace You pussy whip fags.That was F at #$IN HILARIOUS!
Each other's post and methods and co signing, I'm going to fuck her for 40 or less with cover of course. It what I do, kind of my thing, it's how I get off. So you can all go blow each other and burn your hard earn dividends on a slow boat to China. Peace You pussy whip fags.It what you do. Can we get an English lesson here!!
If you're going to post dumb shit, at least make sure you get your point across properly and with punctuation! Perhaps you can only count to 40 and this is where you are having trouble getting to 60?
Miggles Mcgee
07-01-16, 04:05
I come on here to gather intel and share intel if I have it. So far over the past month, the only hard intel I've been able to gather is that milkma, Michael78, and thisblows are pretty much worthless to the forum. Their trash posts take up space where useful information belongs. Then, they don't seem to understand why providers react negatively to them and hobbyists bash them for their posts. My suggestion to you 3 is to gather in a closet somewhere and form a support group for individuals that can't figure out why they've been shunned by providers and mongers alike. Maybe you will start to see each other as the rest of the hobby sees you. Hopefully this will help you to see the error in your ways and possibly encourage you to present yourselves a little bit better. I can guarantee that the forums and the hobby will be kinder to you if you do.
This Blows
07-01-16, 06:33
I come on here to gather intel and share intel if I have it. So far over the past month, the only hard intel I've been able to gather is that Milkma, Michael78, and This Blows are pretty much worthless to the forum. Their trash posts take up space where useful information belongs. Then, they don't seem to understand why providers react negatively to them and hobbyists bash them for their posts. My suggestion to you 3 is to gather in a closet somewhere and form a support group for individuals that can't figure out why they've been shunned by providers and mongers alike. Maybe you will start to see each other as the rest of the hobby sees you. Hopefully this will help you to see the error in your ways and possibly encourage you to present yourselves a little bit better. I can guarantee that the forums and the hobby will be kinder to you if you do.I am not worthless to this site and I've helped out many members who've contacted me through PMs. I've also had plenty of positive experiences with providers. I don't always post about my experiences, mostly because members like you say that I'm making stuff up. I've seen the same girl in Volusia county 3 times in the last week and we get along really well. That's why I haven't been wasting my time driving up to Jax to see all of the addicts and drama queens in your area. And the girl that I liked in St Augustine that treats me good moved to Daytona now. Maybe Miggles Mcgee, Quebec and New2 Jax should stop taking up space on this site trashing other members who they don't really know.
Gents.
This maybe a good time to remind everyone about the Ignore List. You must be signed in. Go to Settings. Go to Edit Ignore List. Add the Username. Boom, you won't see their posts, unless someone else replies to their post.
Some months ago, when a member (Yawn and Witless) haunted the forum, a senior member suggested the use of Ignore, and although I use it sparingly, there are a few users in my Ignore Pit.
Because a dick never thinks of himself as a dick, and often agitates for attention.
J4 me.
Miggles Mcgee
07-01-16, 15:18
Gents.
This maybe a good time to remind everyone about the Ignore List. You must be signed in. Go to Settings. Go to Edit Ignore List. Add the Username. Boom, you won't see their posts, unless someone else replies to their post.
Some months ago, when a member (Yawn and Witless) haunted the forum, a senior member suggested the use of Ignore, and although I use it sparingly, there are a few users in my Ignore Pit.
Because a dick never thinks of himself as a dick, and often agitates for attention.
J4 me.I appreciate this post. I had no idea this function existed. Thanks.
I am not worthless to this site and I've helped out many members who've contacted me through PMs. I've also had plenty of positive experiences with providers. I don't always post about my experiences, mostly because members like you say that I'm making stuff up. I've seen the same girl in Volusia county 3 times in the last week and we get along really well. That's why I haven't been wasting my time driving up to Jax to see all of the addicts and drama queens in your area. And the girl that I liked in St Augustine that treats me good moved to Daytona now. Maybe Miggles Mcgee, Quebec and New2 Jax should stop taking up space on this site trashing other members who they don't really know.Stay on your meds, brotha!
I found a pic of This blows at the last Star Trek convention.
Your a lying sack of shit. There will be no disenting opinion on usasg. You think you live in buenos delphia. Let me tell you about your girlfriend cantb1.
Normally I delete your shit like I'm flushing mine down the toilet but I seriously can't wait for this. Fucking please tell me about my girlfriend.
Seriously, I'll be looking forward to reading this if you can type two coherent sentences.
Sorry guys, you have to indulge me here a sec. This fucking idiot thinks he has discovered my actual life in Philadelphia.
I'm only telling you once, if it's the same spam PM you send to guys about who I am and who Jackson is I'm gonna delete it and this user like I always do.
I have taken this accounts ability to send PM's away so don't bother with that spam you're always sending.
A2
I come on here to gather intel and share intel if I have it. So far over the past month, the only hard intel I've been able to gather is that milkma, Michael78, and thisblows are pretty much worthless to the forum. Their trash posts take up space where useful information belongs. Then, they don't seem to understand why providers react negatively to them and hobbyists bash them for their posts. My suggestion to you 3 is to gather in a closet somewhere and form a support group for individuals that can't figure out why they've been shunned by providers and mongers alike. Maybe you will start to see each other as the rest of the hobby sees you. Hopefully this will help you to see the error in your ways and possibly encourage you to present yourselves a little bit better. I can guarantee that the forums and the hobby will be kinder to you if you do.Old ass up, I don't have a problem and don't need this form to find a local drug attic to blow me. Was doing fine before this and will doing fine after. Just gone sponge off you ass info to give ya beard butter a run for bottom dollar. Fuck you yo crew and mouth that omited to swallow you. Old pussy whipped fart. Sit yo blue pill popping dusty ass down.
It what you do. Can we get an English lesson here!!
If you're going to post dumb shit, at least make sure you get your point across properly and with punctuation! Perhaps you can only count to 40 and this is where you are having trouble getting to 60?And when you done have another on, sure one of your butt buddy has one for you.
Old gaylords don't even understand the concept to thisnboard. You just look for other hard dick that have the same mind frame as you and began to stroke each off. When ever some one present an experience that doesn't flow the same way as yours, You lose your hard on and start shaming shunning that guy to him to conform to your small mind way of thinking. Sorry but not sorry I wasn't down for the circle jerk.
I'll be that,No sweat of my back. It's what you guys need to feel better about yourselves, whatever helps. So you can't say I'm not helping.
This Blows
07-01-16, 21:59
Stay on your meds, brotha!Screw you Quebec. You're not even worth my time. You're just a jealous old prick. A girl who I've been seeing locally starting going on regular dates with me and I don't pay her anymore for anything. She begged me to come see her this morning and she blew me before I went to work and then she met me after work at a local bar and then we went back to her place and she fucked me for 2 hours.
This Blows
07-01-16, 22:27
You old gaylords don't even understand the concept to this board. You just look for other hard dick that have the same mind frame as you and began to stroke each off. When ever some one present an experience that doesn't flow the same way as yours, You lose your hard on and start shaming shunning that guy to him to conform to your small mind way of thinking. Sorry but not sorry I wasn't down for the circle jerk.Well said and I totally agree with you about the "seniors" on this site shunning newer members to conform to their way of thinking.
Gents.
This maybe a good time to remind everyone about the Ignore List. You must be signed in. Go to Settings. Go to Edit Ignore List. Add the Username. Boom, you won't see their posts, unless someone else replies to their post.
Some months ago, when a member (Yawn and Witless) haunted the forum, a senior member suggested the use of Ignore, and although I use it sparingly, there are a few users in my Ignore Pit.
Because a dick never thinks of himself as a dick, and often agitates for attention.
J4 me.Another way to add the person is click on their name, let's say Milkmaid, then click view profile, next hit "add to ignore list. " Boom, troll gone!
MouthHunter
07-02-16, 02:33
Well said and I totally agree with you about the "seniors" on this site shunning newer members to conform to their way of thinking.Who's jerking who now?? Are you two the same person?? Just wondering equally useless here.
This Blows
07-02-16, 06:54
You old gaylords don't even understand the concept to this board. You just look for other hard dick that have the same mind frame as you and began to stroke each off. Whenever someone presents an experience that doesn't flow the same way as yours, You lose your hard on and start shaming shunning that guy to him to conform to your small mind way of thinking. Sorry but not sorry I wasn't down for the circle jerk.
Well said and I totally agree with you about the "seniors" on this site shunning newer members to conform to their way of thinking.
Who's jerking who now?? Are you two the same person?? Just wondering equally useless here.No, we're not the same person and I'm not jerking anyone. I'm just saying that I agree with his post.
Screw you Quebec. You're not even worth my time. You're just a jealous old prick. A girl who I've been seeing locally starting going on regular dates with me and I don't pay her anymore for anything. She begged me to come see her this morning and she blew me before I went to work and then she met me after work at a local bar and then we went back to her place and she fucked me for 2 hours.Great story, TB, you are a stud! I totally believe you!
Member #5173
07-02-16, 09:12
Old gaylords don't even understand the concept to thisnboard. You just look for other hard dick that have the same mind frame as you and began to stroke each off. When ever some one present an experience that doesn't flow the same way as yours, You lose your hard on and start shaming shunning that guy to him to conform to your small mind way of thinking. Sorry but not sorry I wasn't down for the circle jerk.It is somewhat ironic that most new members, my self included, do not share your views about the purpose of the usasg forum or the significance and importance of contribution from its senior members. My perspective is quite different than yours. Sure, some members, both junior and senior, may not necessarily agree with some of my choices, personal preferences and recommendations; for as many mongers out there that exist there are different varied likes and dislikes. My experience with the forum is that whether a member agrees or disagrees with me on a topic, the communication of such has been courteous and mutually respectful. With rare exception, you get what you give in this community. Personally, I am appreciative of the welcome I have received on this forum. I have found both open and PM communication with many members very, very helpful. I have much to learn; like patience. It is a virtue I have yet to master. You see, how the most senior members, inclusive of the moderators of this forum, can remain tolerant of immature albeit childish, rude, condescending, derogatory and inflammatory attacks against them, and against some of our most respected providers, by some specific individuals on this forum, just goes against my nature. Wouldn't you agree that if these few specific individuals needs are not being met by the forum, that perhaps it is not a problem or fault with the forum; and that perhaps these self serving, self righteous little shit heads might be better served starting their own forum. I have checked, and the following domains are currently available: whiner.com; asshole.com; snivel.com; gofuckyourself.com; and my personal favorite: nobodylikesme.com. Hey, just my two cents worth.
Gotta say this takes "hey go fuck yourself" into the realm of art.
Seriously love that fucking picture, I can put sooooooooo many screen names right on top of it. I gotta talk to the Russians and see if I can get a speed button that deletes a post and puts that picture in it's place.
A2
This board has fallen fast. Now-a-days, too many posers, too many non-contributing lurkers, and too much insulting behavior. Some days you have to weed through a page full of crap to find something of real interest.
Here is a suggestion to regain control. Going forward with reviews simply post Name, Link (or contact info), and the single word (s) Recommended or Not Recommended. If guys want further info, they can contact the original reporter. That allows the guy who authored the report to control dissemination to those members who actually contribute and with who he deems fit to share with.
Some will argue it might put undue burden on the author, but it keeps the contributing members in the loop and culls the unproductive members of the herd.
Miggles Mcgee
07-02-16, 18:04
Old ass up, I don't have a problem and don't need this form to find a local drug attic to blow me. Was doing fine before this and will doing fine after. Just gone sponge off you ass info to give ya beard butter a run for bottom dollar. Fuck you yo crew and mouth that omited to swallow you. Old pussy whipped fart. Sit yo blue pill popping dusty ass down.You claim to do so well, but somehow your posts are always along the lines of you trying to get a top notch provider for 40. She shoots you down. You get butt hurt and trash talk her here for shooting you down. Fellow members let you know that you shouldn't be upset and that the provider mentioned is worth much more than 40 based on appearance / quality of service. The forum is for sharing info and assisting others. They are trying to help you by letting you know a specific provider has a known reputation for not negotiating. Or they will bring up the fact that the provider's ad says "rates non-negotiable" right on it. You get more butthurt and start trash talking the member that informs you that you have no right to be butthurt. And then there's a 5 day tantrum. Don't get me wrong, your tantrums can be entertaining, but that's really the only value they provide. This cycle has repeated multiple times now. If you have no problems getting anyone to blow you, why do you post multiple cases of you getting shot down in a PAY4 PLAY environment. Literally the same scenario with provider after provider, with the same result of you getting shot down. If a "local drug ATTIC" as you put it, won't blow you for the cold hard cash that you're offering, I can only imagine what life must be like for you in the regular world of interacting with normal everyday women. Everyone swings and misses every once in awhile. And then there's you. But I digress. You keep doing you. Your last 7 or 8 posts say a lot more about yourself than I ever could.
Miggles Mcgee
07-02-16, 18:25
For the 3 of you that I offended, there is a reason I called you out. Bear B himself had a difference of opinion on the forum fairly recently. He handled it with dignity, accepted criticism, and was able to reason with those he was talking to. I currently consider him a great source of information. He's shared reports, experiences, and advice. Bear B is one of the newer guys here. So, nothing about this is new guy vs. Senior or me trying to make anyone else accept my way of thinking and my opinions. It's about useful information vs. Useless trash. It's about childish morons vs. Being a rational adult. That's all I really have to say. Continue to lash out and make petty insults like a 12 year old if that's what makes you feel better. Sorry for using you as an example Bear. You were just the best and most recent one I could think of.
Member #5173
07-02-16, 19:39
For the 3 of you that I offended, there is a reason I called you out. Bear B himself had a difference of opinion on the forum fairly recently. He handled it with dignity, accepted criticism, and was able to reason with those he was talking to. I currently consider him a great source of information. He's shared reports, experiences, and advice. Bear B is one of the newer guys here. So, nothing about this is new guy vs. Senior or me trying to make anyone else accept my way of thinking and my opinions. It's about useful information vs. Useless trash. It's about childish morons vs. Being a rational adult. That's all I really have to say. Continue to lash out and make petty insults like a 12 year old if that's what makes you feel better. Sorry for using you as an example Bear. You were just the best and most recent one I could think of.I appreciate the kind words.
For the 3 of you that I offended, there is a reason I called you out. Bear B himself had a difference of opinion on the forum fairly recently. He handled it with dignity, accepted criticism, and was able to reason with those he was talking to. I currently consider him a great source of information. He's shared reports, experiences, and advice. Bear B is one of the newer guys here. So, nothing about this is new guy vs. Senior or me trying to make anyone else accept my way of thinking and my opinions. It's about useful information vs. Useless trash. It's about childish morons vs. Being a rational adult. That's all I really have to say. Continue to lash out and make petty insults like a 12 year old if that's what makes you feel better. Sorry for using you as an example Bear. You were just the best and most recent one I could think of.When I snapped at BearB. My attacking of Mr BearB was uncalled for & he didn't deserve the reaction I gave him.
I'm not too sure if my apology came off sincere or if I even gave one the last time, but here it is on record:
BearB I want to apologize for my foolish unnecessary reaction to which you were not deserving of such. Please accept my apology.
You're really coming along well on your comments & reviews. Your posts has been well versed & informative. I want to thank you for what you have contributed to our beloved forum & looking forward to reading more. Keep up the good work, Monger!
Be Safe & Continue What You're Doing.
-PB.
This board has fallen fast. Now-a-days, too many posers, too many non-contributing lurkers, and too much insulting behavior. Some days you have to weed through a page full of crap to find something of real interest.
Here is a suggestion to regain control. Going forward with reviews simply post Name, Link (or contact info), and the single word (s) Recommended or Not Recommended. If guys want further info, they can contact the original reporter. That allows the guy who authored the report to control dissemination to those members who actually contribute and with who he deems fit to share with.
Some will argue it might put undue burden on the author, but it keeps the contributing members in the loop and culls the unproductive members of the herd.Once again, sage advice and recommendation from a trusted Member. It is worth a try, the arguing and insults become very tedious very quickly.
Member #5173
07-03-16, 06:03
When I snapped at BearB. My attacking of Mr BearB was uncalled for & he didn't deserve the reaction I gave him.
I'm not too sure if my apology came off sincere or if I even gave one the last time, but here it is on record:
BearB I want to apologize for my foolish unnecessary reaction to which you were not deserving of such. Please accept my apology.
You're really coming along well on your comments & reviews. Your posts has been well versed & informative. I want to thank you for what you have contributed to our beloved forum & looking forward to reading more. Keep up the good work, Monger!
Be Safe & Continue What You're Doing.
-PB.PoniBoi this is water under the proverbial bridge. No offense was ever taken. You were and are PoniBoi just being PoniBoi. For those of us that have come to love and respect you on this forum, well, we would not want it any other way. Happy 4th.
Some may appreciate this. They have been running promos for Gilligans Island here in Jacksonville on a channel called MeTV using Dawn Wells (Mary Ann) current footage of her saying "I always wanted to give Gilligans this" and then she throws a coconut cream pie. They then cut to footage from the show showing Gilligan getting hit in the face with said pie. So, in essence Mary Ann and Gilligan did a cream pie together. Cue the groans, have a great 4th all!
Member #5648
07-03-16, 10:16
Some may appreciate this. They have been running promos for Gilligans Island here in Jacksonville on a channel called MeTV using Dawn Wells (Mary Ann) current footage of her saying "I always wanted to give Gilligans this" and then she throws a coconut cream pie. They then cut to footage from the show showing Gilligan getting hit in the face with said pie. So, in essence Mary Ann and Gilligan did a cream pie together. Cue the groans, have a great 4th all!Seriously? But I love Coconut Cream Pie! You do have to be EXTREMELY CAREFUL with the other, because your dick might fall off if it's with the wrong lady.
This board has fallen fast. Now-a-days, too many posers, too many non-contributing lurkers, and too much insulting behavior. Some days you have to weed through a page full of crap to find something of real interest.
Here is a suggestion to regain control. Going forward with reviews simply post Name, Link (or contact info), and the single word (s) Recommended or Not Recommended. If guys want further info, they can contact the original reporter. That allows the guy who authored the report to control dissemination to those members who actually contribute and with who he deems fit to share with.
Some will argue it might put undue burden on the author, but it keeps the contributing members in the loop and culls the unproductive members of the herd.You are one of the few members that have been around nearly as long as I have so I'm treating this with respect.
In my opinion the board has gotten better. The use of fight threads such as this has certainly localized the stupidity. If you don't wish to be involved in the lunacy that goes on in here don't click the thread, simple as that. If you are clicking on the thread then you are interested in it. You're words may be saying no but your actions say something else.
Without the vast pool of non-contributing lurkers (400,000 or so) we have no advertisers, without the advertisers we have no forum, simple as that. Everybody plays a part. We have exactly the same ratio of active / inactive visitors that is standard in all the participatory sites like this, about 10-1. We value those participants, there is no question that without content creators we would have no forum as well, but all three groups play equal roles. Creators, consumers, and advertisers.
If you are wading through a page full of crap on the REVIEW threads there are two things you can do;.
1. Report the posts. When you report them I don't just look at one post. If the guy is being a dick I review his last 25, if he was a dick twice I put him on moderation then his dickishness is being watched.
2. Use the ignore function. I can't stress this enough. I have hundreds of guys on ignore in my personal account. Using that function will increase your enjoyment of the forum.
As far as your suggestion going forward, that's fine, if your intention is to destroy the USASG. If you like having a forum then, sorry, we aren't just disagreeing you're simply wrong.
When you came here in 2004 and looked at this site for the very first time and saw;.
Jasmine, link, yes.
Candy, link, no.
Monica, link, no.
Then when you sent a PM and somebody told you "fuck you noob" there's no way you would have joined and stayed as long as you did. You know this is the truth.
The forum is what it is. You have tools you can use to make your experience better. Not using them and then bemoaning the decline of the forum isn't the fault of the forum hoss that's a choice you are making.
This isn't in blue, you can call me a cocksucker if you want.
A2.
You are one of the few members that have been around nearly as long as I have so I'm treating this with respect.
In my opinion the board has gotten better. The use of fight threads such as this has certainly localized the stupidity. If you don't wish to be involved in the lunacy that goes on in here don't click the thread, simple as that. If you are clicking on the thread then you are interested in it. You're words may be saying no but your actions say something else.
Without the vast pool of non-contributing lurkers (400,000 or so) we have no advertisers, without the advertisers we have no forum, simple as that. Everybody plays a part. We have exactly the same ratio of active / inactive visitors that is standard in all the participatory sites like this, about 10-1. We value those participants, there is no question that without content creators we would have no forum as well, but all three groups play equal roles. Creators, consumers, and advertisers.
If you are wading through a page full of crap on the REVIEW threads there are two things you can do;.
1. Report the posts. When you report them I don't just look at one post. If the guy is being a dick I review his last 25, if he was a dick twice I put him on moderation then his dickishness is being watched.
2. Use the ignore function. I can't stress this enough. I have hundreds of guys on ignore in my personal account. Using that function will increase your enjoyment of the forum.
As far as your suggestion going forward, that's fine, if your intention is to destroy the USASG. If you like having a forum then, sorry, we aren't just disagreeing you're simply wrong.
When you came here in 2004 and looked at this site for the very first time and saw;.
Jasmine, link, yes.
Candy, link, no.
Monica, link, no.
Then when you sent a PM and somebody told you "fuck you noob" there's no way you would have joined and stayed as long as you did. You know this is the truth.
The forum is what it is. You have tools you can use to make your experience better. Not using them and then bemoaning the decline of the forum isn't the fault of the forum hoss that's a choice you are making.
This isn't in blue, you can call me a cocksucker if you want.
A2.You Cocksucker! LOL.
You are one of the few members that have been around nearly as long as I have so I'm treating this with respect.Thanks for the insight. I was looking at it purely from the "user" perspective and not the "business" end.
This isn't in blue, you can call me a cocksucker if you want.Why would I want to do that?
Thanks for the insight. I was looking at it purely from the "user" perspective and not the "business" end.
Why would I want to do that?When I don't write in blue I'm just one of the guys. I didn't think you would because we were giving the children an example of how two grownups might disagree and discus something but just in case you felt like it.
So for the record, I had to take a double-take after seeing this ad this evening on BP, LOL what are the chances.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/jayse/9650722
P.S. So I totally enjoyed myself.
Miggles Mcgee
07-04-16, 01:34
So for the record, I had to take a double-take after seeing this ad this evening on BP, LOL what are the chances.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/jayse/9650722
P.S. So I totally enjoyed myself.You are much cuter and have much longer hair than I imagined.
Jactionville
07-04-16, 16:41
When you came here in 2004 and looked at this site for the very first time and saw;.
A2.Although it's probably irrelevant to anyone, is there a way to tell how long someone has been an active member of this forum? I think that I have been here since early 2004 (maybe sooner)? That would be cool if we could have our membership year listed under our little ribbon. Either way, thanks for all that you do Sir!
Old School
07-04-16, 20:15
Although it's probably irrelevant to anyone, is there a way to tell how long someone has been an active member of this forum? I think that I have been here since early 2004 (maybe sooner)? That would be cool if we could have our membership year listed under our little ribbon. Either way, thanks for all that you do Sir!To All,
January 2004.
I am a new user to the WSG, I originally started looking at it because I will be taking a business trip to China. To my suprise I found that the site also had a lot to offer about Jacksonville. I want to thank all of you for your reports. With all that I read about Cinderella's I fell asleep about 1 PM Saturday and had a dream I stopped by the establishment. As I entered I saw three Dancers, A tall well stacked Blonde, an Older Brunette (long hair Brunette) and another Curly hair Brunette. I ordered a beer and after a few eye contacts with the Blonde I motioned for her to come speak with me. We had the normal conversation, how did you find out about this place, have you been in here before, etc. So in my dream I utilized all the INFO I had read on here and we were off to the VIP room. Again though while in VIP I had to convince her one more time my name was not LEO. I asked for the special and OH MY GOD! She's a PRO. I highly recommend her.
Again! Thanks to you all and I will be sure to help in posting.
Old School.
I believe this was the Blonde that also worked at UPS. Some of you older guys may remember her name.
I see that a post I made recently is embargoed awaiting moderator review. Ok fine, if you feel that is best. What occurred to me, that while I did improperly post on the BP girls page what should have been posted in this "fight" room is that the punishment is more on you than me.
I am sharing the occasional review or comment. No big deal. But for every real pain in the ass jerk you put on "delayed posting", it is you A2 that has increased your workload. I suppose it seems like a fitting "punishment" for the occasional stepping across the line or mis-posted entry but I am somewhat amazed that YOU are the one that gets the punishment and not the offender.
Perhaps some guys really get off seeing their avatar name up in lights immediately upon posting, but now they don't get that "rush". Never felt that way myself. So I guess what I am saying is this seems more a punishment to you than on me. Now I am not trying to be a big jerk, but it probably comes off that way anyhow, sorry about that, and I wish I had a better solution for you but I do not have a better solution to punish the scofflaws better.
Good luck out there.
P.S. I did see you finally sanctioned the loser who kept posting all his sad sack rip off stories but never named a real girl, the joker I got in trouble for calling BS on. . maybe you need a fiction thread, some of these guys seem to write bs for fun.
One persons "punishment" is another guys job security. I'm the only get paid to be here.
But lets take your premise. Every post where you start a fight causes 5-7 responses. It takes me 6-8 seconds to read your post, then less then a second to decide if it stays or goes. If I have to go to a thread and clean up some bullshit that takes me 4-5 minutes.
For me it's a win/win moderated guys secure my job and by having them moderated it saves me time.
Keep up the good work,
A2
I see that a post I made recently is embargoed awaiting moderator review. Ok fine, if you feel that is best. What occurred to me, that while I did improperly post on the BP girls page what should have been posted in this "fight" room is that the punishment is more on you than me.
I am sharing the occasional review or comment. No big deal. But for every real pain in the ass jerk you put on "delayed posting", it is you A2 that has increased your workload. I suppose it seems like a fitting "punishment" for the occasional stepping across the line or mis-posted entry but I am somewhat amazed that YOU are the one that gets the punishment and not the offender.
Perhaps some guys really get off seeing their avatar name up in lights immediately upon posting, but now they don't get that "rush". Never felt that way myself. So I guess what I am saying is this seems more a punishment to you than on me. Now I am not trying to be a big jerk, but it probably comes off that way anyhow, sorry about that, and I wish I had a better solution for you but I do not have a better solution to punish the scofflaws better.
Good luck out there.
P.S. I did see you finally sanctioned the loser who kept posting all his sad sack rip off stories but never named a real girl, the joker I got in trouble for calling BS on. . maybe you need a fiction thread, some of these guys seem to write bs for fun.
One persons "punishment" is another guys job security. I'm the only get paid to be here.
But lets take your premise. Every post where you start a fight causes 5-7 responses. It takes me 6-8 seconds to read your post, then less then a second to decide if it stays or goes. If I have to go to a thread and clean up some bullshit that takes me 4-5 minutes.
For me it's a win/win moderated guys secure my job and by having them moderated it saves me time.
Keep up the good work,
A2Ok, your explanation makes sense. Glad you shared.
Member #5173
07-20-16, 16:54
In the past couple of months several of my friends on usasg have contacted me via pm to advise caution and express concern over some of the choices I have made; unprotected sex, oral sex without a condom, daty, anal sex, sex with multiple partners at the same time. Some have advised caution regarding some of the providers I choose to engage in relations with. Some of you have thanked me for sharing. Others have given me a little shit. I am appreciative of all of you, and I expect nothing less regarding reaction to this post. Recently, I have been contacted by a couple of you expressing medical concerns following dreams with providers they have seen; some of which I have ranted and raved about profusely; two with gonorrhea, one with Chlamydia. Yes gentlemen, some among us are currently in treatment. Those of you that know me also know that I have a background in medicine. I promise I will never mention it again on public forum. I say it now because there are a couple of things many of us think we know and some of us are quite misinformed. Yes, and some, much like myself, know the risks and continue to make the choices we make. All of us have access to the internet; most of us realize that while there is a wealth of information to be garnered doing research on the internet, many of us do not realize all the misinformation and bullshit that is out there. On the topic of STD's to include gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes, Chlamydia, and many others, there is too much misinformation. Here is the reality: any one of these STD's I have mentioned can be contracted through unprotected oral, anal, and vaginal sex. To be clear, if a provider has oral gonorrhea, for example, and gives you an uncovered BJ, you can easily contract gonorrhea. If, like me, you are a fan of daty, despite how clean smelling and sweet tasting that pussy might be, if the provider has vaginal gonorrhea, your going to get oral gonorrhea. Moreover, you go home and suck face with mama, you greatly risk passing the oral gonorrhea on to her. Additionally, If you put your finger in a providers orifice (pussy, ass, mouth) and then it shortly after ends up in your mouth, eyes, ass or on your cock you can get an STD. If you practice it safe with your provider and the condom comes off for a handjob finish, and she uses a hand that has been in contact with her pussy or her mouth, or if she uses spit for lubrication, you are at risk if she is infected. In each case, if one has a significant other at home, you can pass it on to your partner. All the bullshit about getting an uncovered blowjob is safe is just that, bullshit. If one is going to engage in this hobby, they need to do it with their eyes wide open. There are risks associated with our actions. It is all about cost benefit analysis! Having said all this, when one gets to be my age, despite an increase in libido, junior suffers a significant decrease in sensitivity. A blow job feels so much better uncovered; there is just something to be said for ejaculating deep in a providers throat vice a latex condom; vaginal and anal sex just feels so much better uncovered. The risks are astronomical. I must be a very lucky guy though, as most of the providers I see, many that I've written about, understand and sympathize with my age related issue. Consequently most of them, feeling sorry for me I guess, allow me unqualified unprotected access. I am just glad that of all the providers I see that normally require use of cover, most make exception for me and me alone. Are you fucking shitting me? Is it possible that some of us mongers are so naïve? Far too many of the BP providers are addicts; cocaine, heroin, crystal meth, dilaudid, some drugs I have never heard of. There is nothing some of these girls would not do for their next fix; nothing. I once provided medical care for an addict at a local facility in Jacksonville. After treatments she went to prison. Why? She sold her 3 year old daughter to her pimp for a two day supply of meth amphetamine. Guess the dude could not have children of his own and wanted to start a family? Yup I am sure that is what it was. Do you think for a moment a provider will advertise their HIV or hepatitis status? Not likely. What I find almost as disturbing is the fact that there are mongers in our community that know they have a medical issue, let it go untreated, and pass it along. That old adage what goes around comes around could not be more true than here. I am freaking myself out so bad here I am going to stop writing. I think I am going to call Aubrie; everything protected, no kissing, no daty, no touching of the breasts, no fiv. Probably my safest bet right now. Am wondering though, if I kick the donation up to twice her hourly recommendation do you think she might let me take off the protection for a little BBBJDTCIM and just a few minutes of grinding that sweet pussy on my face? Just had to ask. Sorry to be preaching to the proverbial choir. Be informed. Be safe.
Member #5069
07-21-16, 05:33
In the past couple of months several of my friends on usasg have contacted me via pm to advise caution and express concern over some of the choices I have made; unprotected sex, oral sex without a condom, daty, anal sex, sex with multiple partners at the same time. Some have advised caution regarding some of the providers I choose to engage in relations with. Some of you have thanked me for sharing. Others have given me a little shit. I am appreciative of all of you, and I expect nothing less regarding reaction to this post. Recently, I have been contacted by a couple of you expressing medical concerns following dreams with providers they have seen; some of which I have ranted and raved about profusely; two with gonorrhea, one with Chlamydia. Yes gentlemen, some among us are currently in treatment. Those of you that know me also know that I have a background in medicine. I promise I will never mention it again on public forum. I say it now because there are a couple of things many of us think we know and some of us are quite misinformed. Yes, and some, much like myself, know the risks and continue to make the choices we make. All of us have access to the internet; most of us realize that while there is a wealth of information to be garnered doing research on the internet, many of us do not realize all the misinformation and bullshit that is out there. On the topic of STD's to include gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes, Chlamydia, and many others, there is too much misinformation. Here is the reality: any one of these STD's I have mentioned can be contracted through unprotected oral, anal, and vaginal sex. To be clear, if a provider has oral gonorrhea, for example, and gives you an uncovered BJ, you can easily contract gonorrhea. If, like me, you are a fan of daty, despite how clean smelling and sweet tasting that pussy might be, if the provider has vaginal gonorrhea, your going to get oral gonorrhea. Moreover, you go home and suck face with mama, you greatly risk passing the oral gonorrhea on to her. Additionally, If you put your finger in a providers orifice (pussy, ass, mouth) and then it shortly after ends up in your mouth, eyes, ass or on your cock you can get an STD. If you practice it safe with your provider and the condom comes off for a handjob finish, and she uses a hand that has been in contact with her pussy or her mouth, or if she uses spit for lubrication, you are at risk if she is infected. In each case, if one has a significant other at home, you can pass it on to your partner. All the bullshit about getting an uncovered blowjob is safe is just that, bullshit. If one is going to engage in this hobby, they need to do it with their eyes wide open. There are risks associated with our actions. It is all about cost benefit analysis! Having said all this, when one gets to be my age, despite an increase in libido, junior suffers a significant decrease in sensitivity. A blow job feels so much better uncovered; there is just something to be said for ejaculating deep in a providers throat vice a latex condom; vaginal and anal sex just feels so much better uncovered. The risks are astronomical. I must be a very lucky guy though, as most of the providers I see, many that I've written about, understand and sympathize with my age related issue. Consequently most of them, feeling sorry for me I guess, allow me unqualified unprotected access. I am just glad that of all the providers I see that normally require use of cover, most make exception for me and me alone. Are you fucking shitting me? Is it possible that some of us mongers are so nave? Far too many of the BP providers are addicts; cocaine, heroin, crystal meth, dilaudid, some drugs I have never heard of. There is nothing some of these girls would not do for their next fix; nothing. I once provided medical care for an addict at a local facility in Jacksonville. After treatments she went to prison. Why? She sold her 3 year old daughter to her pimp for a two day supply of meth amphetamine. Guess the dude could not have children of his own and wanted to start a family? Yup I am sure that is what it was. Do you think for a moment a provider will advertise their HIV or hepatitis status? Not likely. What I find almost as disturbing is the fact that there are mongers in our community that know they have a medical issue, let it go untreated, and pass it along. That old adage what goes around comes around could not be more true than here. I am freaking myself out so bad here I am going to stop writing. I think I am going to call Aubrie; everything protected, no kissing, no daty, no touching of the breasts, no fiv. Probably my safest bet right now. Am wondering though, if I kick the donation up to twice her hourly recommendation do you think she might let me take off the protection for a little BBBJDTCIM and just a few minutes of grinding that sweet pussy on my face? Just had to ask. Sorry to be preaching to the proverbial choir. Be informed. Be safe.But you are most likely to contract skin contact STD's like herpes, and genital warts. As far as HIV, while it can be contracted from engaging in this hobby, it's difficult for a man to contract it from a woman. And there is no documented cases at all, of a man contracting it from a BBBJ or DATY. That's not to say it isn't possible. I guess if you had open soars on your privates and she has open soars in her mouth and she gave you a BBBJ while being positive, you could contract it. HIV is a disease born and bred from filthy conditions, which is why it is so prevalent in Africa and among gay men. If anything, anal sex increases the chances. This is just based on the information I have read.
Member #5648
07-21-16, 11:35
But you are most likely to contract skin contact STD's like herpes, and genital warts. As far as HIV, while it can be contracted from engaging in this hobby, it's difficult for a man to contract it from a woman. And there is no documented cases at all, of a man contracting it from a BBBJ or DATY. That's not to say it isn't possible. I guess if you had open soars on your privates and she has open soars in her mouth and she gave you a BBBJ while being positive, you could contract it. HIV is a disease born and bred from filthy conditions, which is why it is so prevalent in Africa and among gay men. If anything, anal sex increases the chances. This is just based on the information I have read.I recently heard about a dancer infecting a couple of dozen guys with HIV and then being told that she died from a drug overdoses. All of the younger dancers just want to fuck for the quick money so better to spend a little more on a nice escort sometimes. . I always take a couple of covers in with me whenever I get a VIP just out of caution. Katya is as safe as it gets while it's best sometimes to spend money on a escort.
The Preacher
07-21-16, 12:25
In the past couple of months several of my friends on usasg have contacted me via pm to advise caution and express concern over some of the choices I have made; unprotected sex, oral sex without a condom, daty, anal sex, sex with multiple partners at the same time. Some have advised caution regarding some of the providers I choose to engage in relations with. Some of you have thanked me for sharing. Others have given me a little shit. I am appreciative of all of you, and I expect nothing less regarding reaction to this post. Recently, I have been contacted by a couple of you expressing medical concerns following dreams with providers they have seen; some of which I have ranted and raved about profusely; two with gonorrhea, one with Chlamydia. Yes gentlemen, some among us are currently in treatment. Those of you that know me also know that I have a background in medicine. I promise I will never mention it again on public forum. I say it now because there are a couple of things many of us think we know and some of us are quite misinformed. Yes, and some, much like myself, know the risks and continue to make the choices we make. All of us have access to the internet; most of us realize that while there is a wealth of information to be garnered doing research on the internet, many of us do not realize all the misinformation and bullshit that is out there. On the topic of STD's to include gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes, Chlamydia, and many others, there is too much misinformation. Here is the reality: any one of these STD's I have mentioned can be contracted through unprotected oral, anal, and vaginal sex. To be clear, if a provider has oral gonorrhea, for example, and gives you an uncovered BJ, you can easily contract gonorrhea. If, like me, you are a fan of daty, despite how clean smelling and sweet tasting that pussy might be, if the provider has vaginal gonorrhea, your going to get oral gonorrhea. Moreover, you go home and suck face with mama, you greatly risk passing the oral gonorrhea on to her. Additionally, If you put your finger in a providers orifice (pussy, ass, mouth) and then it shortly after ends up in your mouth, eyes, ass or on your cock you can get an STD. If you practice it safe with your provider and the condom comes off for a handjob finish, and she uses a hand that has been in contact with her pussy or her mouth, or if she uses spit for lubrication, you are at risk if she is infected. In each case, if one has a significant other at home, you can pass it on to your partner. All the bullshit about getting an uncovered blowjob is safe is just that, bullshit. If one is going to engage in this hobby, they need to do it with their eyes wide open. There are risks associated with our actions. It is all about cost benefit analysis! Having said all this, when one gets to be my age, despite an increase in libido, junior suffers a significant decrease in sensitivity. A blow job feels so much better uncovered; there is just something to be said for ejaculating deep in a providers throat vice a latex condom; vaginal and anal sex just feels so much better uncovered. The risks are astronomical. I must be a very lucky guy though, as most of the providers I see, many that I've written about, understand and sympathize with my age related issue. Consequently most of them, feeling sorry for me I guess, allow me unqualified unprotected access. I am just glad that of all the providers I see that normally require use of cover, most make exception for me and me alone. Are you fucking shitting me? Is it possible that some of us mongers are so nave? Far too many of the BP providers are addicts; cocaine, heroin, crystal meth, dilaudid, some drugs I have never heard of. There is nothing some of these girls would not do for their next fix; nothing. I once provided medical care for an addict at a local facility in Jacksonville. After treatments she went to prison. Why? She sold her 3 year old daughter to her pimp for a two day supply of meth amphetamine. Guess the dude could not have children of his own and wanted to start a family? Yup I am sure that is what it was. Do you think for a moment a provider will advertise their HIV or hepatitis status? Not likely. What I find almost as disturbing is the fact that there are mongers in our community that know they have a medical issue, let it go untreated, and pass it along. That old adage what goes around comes around could not be more true than here. I am freaking myself out so bad here I am going to stop writing. I think I am going to call Aubrie; everything protected, no kissing, no daty, no touching of the breasts, no fiv. Probably my safest bet right now. Am wondering though, if I kick the donation up to twice her hourly recommendation do you think she might let me take off the protection for a little BBBJDTCIM and just a few minutes of grinding that sweet pussy on my face? Just had to ask. Sorry to be preaching to the proverbial choir. Be informed. Be safe.I think too many of us lose sight of the fact that we are mongering on borrowed time. Health related or other reasons. We need reminders like this to bring us back to reality.
Thanks brother.
In the past couple of months several of my friends on usasg have contacted me via pm to advise caution and express concern over some of the choices I have made; unprotected sex, oral sex without a condom, daty, anal sex, sex with multiple partners at the same time. Some have advised caution regarding some of the providers I choose to engage in relations with. Some of you have thanked me for sharing. Others have given me a little shit. I am appreciative of all of you, and I expect nothing less regarding reaction to this post. Recently, I have been contacted by a couple of you expressing medical concerns following dreams with providers they have seen; some of which I have ranted and raved about profusely; two with gonorrhea, one with Chlamydia. Yes gentlemen, some among us are currently in treatment. Those of you that know me also know that I have a background in medicine. I promise I will never mention it again on public forum. I say it now because there are a couple of things many of us think we know and some of us are quite misinformed. Yes, and some, much like myself, know the risks and continue to make the choices we make. All of us have access to the internet; most of us realize that while there is a wealth of information to be garnered doing research on the internet, many of us do not realize all the misinformation and bullshit that is out there. On the topic of STD's to include gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes, Chlamydia, and many others, there is too much misinformation. Here is the reality: any one of these STD's I have mentioned can be contracted through unprotected oral, anal, and vaginal sex. To be clear, if a provider has oral gonorrhea, for example, and gives you an uncovered BJ, you can easily contract gonorrhea. If, like me, you are a fan of daty, despite how clean smelling and sweet tasting that pussy might be, if the provider has vaginal gonorrhea, your going to get oral gonorrhea. Moreover, you go home and suck face with mama, you greatly risk passing the oral gonorrhea on to her. Additionally, If you put your finger in a providers orifice (pussy, ass, mouth) and then it shortly after ends up in your mouth, eyes, ass or on your cock you can get an STD. If you practice it safe with your provider and the condom comes off for a handjob finish, and she uses a hand that has been in contact with her pussy or her mouth, or if she uses spit for lubrication, you are at risk if she is infected. In each case, if one has a significant other at home, you can pass it on to your partner. All the bullshit about getting an uncovered blowjob is safe is just that, bullshit. If one is going to engage in this hobby, they need to do it with their eyes wide open. There are risks associated with our actions. It is all about cost benefit analysis! Having said all this, when one gets to be my age, despite an increase in libido, junior suffers a significant decrease in sensitivity. A blow job feels so much better uncovered; there is just something to be said for ejaculating deep in a providers throat vice a latex condom; vaginal and anal sex just feels so much better uncovered. The risks are astronomical. I must be a very lucky guy though, as most of the providers I see, many that I've written about, understand and sympathize with my age related issue. Consequently most of them, feeling sorry for me I guess, allow me unqualified unprotected access. I am just glad that of all the providers I see that normally require use of cover, most make exception for me and me alone. Are you fucking shitting me? Is it possible that some of us mongers are so nave? Far too many of the BP providers are addicts; cocaine, heroin, crystal meth, dilaudid, some drugs I have never heard of. There is nothing some of these girls would not do for their next fix; nothing. I once provided medical care for an addict at a local facility in Jacksonville. After treatments she went to prison. Why? She sold her 3 year old daughter to her pimp for a two day supply of meth amphetamine. Guess the dude could not have children of his own and wanted to start a family? Yup I am sure that is what it was. Do you think for a moment a provider will advertise their HIV or hepatitis status? Not likely. What I find almost as disturbing is the fact that there are mongers in our community that know they have a medical issue, let it go untreated, and pass it along. That old adage what goes around comes around could not be more true than here. I am freaking myself out so bad here I am going to stop writing. I think I am going to call Aubrie; everything protected, no kissing, no daty, no touching of the breasts, no fiv. Probably my safest bet right now. Am wondering though, if I kick the donation up to twice her hourly recommendation do you think she might let me take off the protection for a little BBBJDTCIM and just a few minutes of grinding that sweet pussy on my face? Just had to ask. Sorry to be preaching to the proverbial choir. Be informed. Be safe.I have certainly become more careful the past few months. The reason is I became pretty surprised how many providers encouraged me to go BB. My thought was, as BearB mentioned, how many of my monger bros and these providers are spreading Gono and Chlamydia around. A monger bro in confidence told me that he caught an STD and his balls got swollen up! He said it was painful and even had blood in his semen! He also mentioned how some of these STDs are becoming resistant to antibiotics.
I am now managing my risk Vs reward scenario a bit better. Not preaching to anyone, as everyone makes their own choices and lives with the consequences.
I was told by girls that if their clients finished their business in an average timeframe, say 5 minutes, and you go over that average time (despite the fact that you paid for 30 minutes), they will start the "cum baby" bullshit. Sometimes when I ask a girl, in a discreet kind of way, if they rush clients out before they get their full time, they usually go silent on me. I guess they say I might be one of those marathon runners! LOL.You must always remember that a providers pussy is their money maker and it does have a daily shelf life. Abuse it for too long and they are literally out of business for a period of time or have to suffer through some pain servicing other clients. Now anal is a whole other matter all together, I've found that girls that take it in the ass can go for a much longer time then those that don't. That's one of the main reasons why anal has become a favorite activity of mine. JD.
Member #5173
07-21-16, 14:38
I've posted about heroin / opiate addiction before but these deaths truly bring the situation into extreme focus. This drug is dangerous, it's become so popular, epidemic really, it's fairly inexpensive and the potency so great that if your using it's just a matter of time before you overdose. This situation has become so serious / deadly there's a number of state's that are allowing the selling of Narcam, an opiate antidote, over the counter in drug stores. I know there are many mongers that don't give a rats ass what happens to providers they frequent but I for one do care. I find heroin addiction to be troublesome and disheartening on so many levels. I know there's no easy answer, we mongers act as enablers, paying these women for their services just helps them complete the cycle of addiction. I guess in a way we enable each other, we all have our own demons to deal with. Bottom line is can the USA community help in any way? I'm not sure other than speaking openly about what we see and reporting it back here as many of us are already doing. If anyone has any legitimate and hopefully helpful suggestions I for one would like to hear them. JD.Really want to go there JD? Self reflection is a dangerous thing, and it rarely leaves us feeling better about ourselves. I, like you, really care about some of the young ladies I have met in this hobby; many of them, in fact. I have fallen in love, in various aspects, with a few of them. The help I have tried to render to a couple has been to no avail. I really wish I could wave a magic wand and make all of bad in their lives go away. Many of them are gone now; a whole hell of a lot more than the 25 that we have read about in Jacksonville over the past year. You probably know as well if not better than me, that caring too much has its inherent dangers. Remember that old fucked up question: what came first, the chicken or the egg? I ask, what came first: the hooker or the John? Does one exist without the other? Who really enables who? I would submit to you this: for every provider out there that is an addict, there are dozens of Johns that suffer to an equal or greater extent a different type of addiction. And while one might argue otherwise, I would submit their addiction can be no less totally destructive. Of course that does not apply to any of our monger friends on usasg?? None of us would engage in such risky behavior that could lead to the loss of our friends, families, our jobs, result in us ending up in jail, or succumbing to a disease that we refuse to acknowledge or seek help for. I would bet most of us on this forum would argue we are too smart to be lured onto such a destructive path. Take me for example. If you think for a moment that the lure of a beautiful, sweet smelling, sweet tasting young lady with a perfectly shaped ass, breasts, and a personality to boot, a girl that will let me bust one off in her ass and then DT me to a second orgasm down her beautiful throat, you would be wrong. No, that is not me. I would never drive an hour in one direction in pursuit of a fresh piece of ass. I would not wait in a parking lot for an hour or more waiting for my soon to be latest conquest to finish with the piece of shit John she is currently banging so she can accommodate me. Unprotected sex? I would not consider it. Take time off work for a mid day rendevous? No way. Run a little short on money to pay bills this month to accommodate a $250 donation to a good cause? Never! Catch an STD? Will never happen to me. Wife finds out about my hobby? Arrest? Fired from job? We can deny it all day long, but many of us are in fact addicts. And to be sure, the addiction, is potentially no less of a problem than that of alcohol, crystal meth, heroin and the many others. Hell, like me, I would bet you are familiar with a couple of mongers that have been exposed in this hobby and have chosen the easy way out! Sickeningly sad, but true. Until one hits bottom, recognizes that their lives are being destroyed by the addiction and actually reaches out for help, I fear there is little that can be done. Intervention, therapy and rehabilitation just do not work if the addict is not a willing participant. I've administered narcan intravenously to several addicts brought into local emergency rooms in drug induced comas. The reversal effect is almost immediate and dramatic. Have had the same individuals present to the ER a week later with the same problem. Some don't make it. Never a pretty site. One can counsel all day long about the consequences of our choices, but until another wants and is willing to listen we cannot help. We will never eradicate this age old problem. If every one on this forum quit the hobby today we would probably not put a dent in most providers business, but I do wonder. For me personally, I know I can not solve all the woes of the world. Where I differ from many though, is I believe in my heart if I can make a difference for even one person, whether it be a patient, a provider, or a monger, it is time and effort well spent. I would like to think I could make better choices, and encourage providers to do the same. You know exactly what I am talking about. I have been a hobbiest for about 45 years now, and I still find myself saying the same things. I need to make better choices and encourage providers to do the same. One thing I have committed to doing based on recent events is to walk from providers that are high or drunk. If drug paraphernalia are present in the room I am going to walk. If big brother is lurking I am going to walk. If the provider has a hint of recent track marks I am going to walk. If uncovered services are offered to me I might just walk. The last one for me poses significant challenge. Will just have to see where it goes. Having said all that, I am not ready to leave the hobby. It has always been an adrenaline rush for me, a high in its own right. I love the variety, the challenge, and all the obvious perks associated with being in the presence of an uninhibited provider. We are all dogs JD and far too many of us just cannot help ourselves. I would argue it is in our nature. Like you though I am a bit sickened by the recent passing of some of our old "young" friends. Fuck! To think I could have contributed even an iota is nauseating. That said, I am so fucking pissed that Aubri's voicemail box is full. I so want to rest my balls on her beautiful chin. I am a sick fuck. At least I acknowledge it.
TomCat4871
07-21-16, 18:09
Good discussion on STD's. I'll add my two cents by saying that I read that certain std's have a certain % of people where you are asymptomatic. Meaning you have it and NO SYMPTOMS. As for me I'm weighing doing a bi-annual test just for the hell of it.
Member #5069
07-21-16, 21:48
I recently heard about a dancer infecting a couple of dozen guys with HIV and then being told that she died from a drug overdoses. All of the younger dancers just want to fuck for the quick money so better to spend a little more on a nice escort sometimes. . I always take a couple of covers in with me whenever I get a VIP just out of caution. Katya is as safe as it gets while it's best sometimes to spend money on a escort.I am a BJ man. LOL. Contracting anything serious from that is practically nill. LOL.
You must always remember that a providers pussy is their money maker and it does have a daily shelf life. Abuse it for too long and they are literally out of business for a period of time or have to suffer through some pain servicing other clients. Now anal is a whole other matter all together, I've found that girls that take it in the ass can go for a much longer time then those that don't. That's one of the main reasons why anal has become a favorite activity of mine. JD.You must be a great salesman! Is that how you sell the idea of anal to the girls? Damn, I am going to try that.
Member #5173
07-22-16, 06:24
Really want to go there JD? Self reflection is a dangerous thing, and it rarely leaves us feeling better about ourselves. I, like you, really care about some of the young ladies I have met in this hobby; many of them, in fact. I have fallen in love, in various aspects, with a few of them. The help I have tried to render to a couple has been to no avail. I really wish I could wave a magic wand and make all of bad in their lives go away. Many of them are gone now; a whole hell of a lot more than the 25 that we have read about in Jacksonville over the past year. You probably know as well if not better than me, that caring too much has its inherent dangers. Remember that old fucked up question: what came first, the chicken or the egg? I ask, what came first: the hooker or the John? Does one exist without the other? Who really enables who? I would submit to you this: for every provider out there that is an addict, there are dozens of Johns that suffer to an equal or greater extent a different type of addiction. And while one might argue otherwise, I would submit their addiction can be no less totally destructive. Of course that does not apply to any of our monger friends on usasg?? None of us would engage in such risky behavior that could lead to the loss of our friends, families, our jobs, result in us ending up in jail, or succumbing to a disease that we refuse to acknowledge or seek help for. I would bet most of us on this forum would argue we are too smart to be lured onto such a destructive path. Take me for example. If you think for a moment that the lure of a beautiful, sweet smelling, sweet tasting young lady with a perfectly shaped ass, breasts, and a personality to boot, a girl that will let me bust one off in her ass and then DT me to a second orgasm down her beautiful throat, you would be wrong. No, that is not me. I would never drive an hour in one direction in pursuit of a fresh piece of ass. I would not wait in a parking lot for an hour or more waiting for my soon to be latest conquest to finish with the piece of shit John she is currently banging so she can accommodate me. Unprotected sex? I would not consider it. Take time off work for a mid day rendevous? No way. Run a little short on money to pay bills this month to accommodate a $250 donation to a good cause? Never! Catch an STD? Will never happen to me. Wife finds out about my hobby? Arrest? Fired from job? We can deny it all day long, but many of us are in fact addicts. And to be sure, the addiction, is potentially no less of a problem than that of alcohol, crystal meth, heroin and the many others. Hell, like me, I would bet you are familiar with a couple of mongers that have been exposed in this hobby and have chosen the easy way out! Sickeningly sad, but true. Until one hits bottom, recognizes that their lives are being destroyed by the addiction and actually reaches out for help, I fear there is little that can be done. Intervention, therapy and rehabilitation just do not work if the addict is not a willing participant. I've administered narcan intravenously to several addicts brought into local emergency rooms in drug induced comas. The reversal effect is almost immediate and dramatic. Have had the same individuals present to the ER a week later with the same problem. Some don't make it. Never a pretty site. One can counsel all day long about the consequences of our choices, but until another wants and is willing to listen we cannot help. We will never eradicate this age old problem. If every one on this forum quit the hobby today we would probably not put a dent in most providers business, but I do wonder. For me personally, I know I can not solve all the woes of the world. Where I differ from many though, is I believe in my heart if I can make a difference for even one person, whether it be a patient, a provider, or a monger, it is time and effort well spent. I would like to think I could make better choices, and encourage providers to do the same. You know exactly what I am talking about. I have been a hobbiest for about 45 years now, and I still find myself saying the same things. I need to make better choices and encourage providers to do the same. One thing I have committed to doing based on recent events is to walk from providers that are high or drunk. If drug paraphernalia are present in the room I am going to walk. If big brother is lurking I am going to walk. If the provider has a hint of recent track marks I am going to walk. If uncovered services are offered to me I might just walk. The last one for me poses significant challenge. Will just have to see where it goes. Having said all that, I am not ready to leave the hobby. It has always been an adrenaline rush for me, a high in its own right. I love the variety, the challenge, and all the obvious perks associated with being in the presence of an uninhibited provider. We are all dogs JD and far too many of us just cannot help ourselves. I would argue it is in our nature. Like you though I am a bit sickened by the recent passing of some of our old "young" friends. Fuck! To think I could have contributed even an iota is nauseating. That said, I am so fucking pissed that Aubri's voicemail box is full. I so want to rest my balls on her beautiful chin. I am a sick fuck. At least I acknowledge it.Thanks A2. I was not sure how to move this discussion where it appropriately belongs.
You must be a great salesman! Is that how you sell the idea of anal to the girls? Damn, I am going to try that.Yeah that and I tell them they'll never feel my tiny dick. LOL JD.
Rick Dugan
07-22-16, 09:07
White knighting does not work for mongers because it is inherently hypocritical. Once you stick your dick inside her for money, you lose all moral authority with her and just become another person with whom she has to do unpleasant things in order to pay for xyz. All the emotional angst that you experience over this isn't going to change that, nor is trying to take the moral high ground with a girl after you have already paid her for sex. So the only truly effective choices you have are to: (1) get over it; or (2) stop mongering. There is no such thing as the noble pervert and running that act with these girls just makes things that much more difficult for them.
I do not post much here, but I have been paying strippers for sex for 15+ years and have long since reconciled myself to these realities. For me, these girls are grown adults who make their own choices. We really have no control over how they spend our money once they earn it and even some of the "clean" looking girls have habits, pimps, etc. Now I also avoid girls who looked fucked up, have track marks or have visible pimps, but that is purely for my own safety. I am not enough of a hypocrite to take the twisted moral position where I object to enabling bad behavior when I see it, but am perfectly fine with doing so when I don't.
Oh, and as you continue to cope with your guilt over enabling girls to do bad things by paying them for sex, ask yourself this: Would they be better off without that money? They may be paying for bad habits, but they also pay for housing, food, transportation, etc. Are you making their lives better by withholding that money?
Just a few things to think about.
Really want to go there JD? Self reflection is a dangerous thing, and it rarely leaves us feeling better about ourselves. I, like you, really care about some of the young ladies I have met in this hobby; many of them, in fact. I have fallen in love, in various aspects, with a few of them. The help I have tried to render to a couple has been to no avail. I really wish I could wave a magic wand and make all of bad in their lives go away. Many of them are gone now; a whole hell of a lot more than the 25 that we have read about in Jacksonville over the past year. You probably know as well if not better than me, that caring too much has its inherent dangers. Remember that old fucked up question: what came first, the chicken or the egg? I ask, what came first: the hooker or the John? Does one exist without the other? Who really enables who? I would submit to you this: for every provider out there that is an addict, there are dozens of Johns that suffer to an equal or greater extent a different type of addiction. And while one might argue otherwise, I would submit their addiction can be no less totally destructive. Of course that does not apply to any of our monger friends on usasg?? None of us would engage in such risky behavior that could lead to the loss of our friends, families, our jobs, result in us ending up in jail, or succumbing to a disease that we refuse to acknowledge or seek help for. I would bet most of us on this forum would argue we are too smart to be lured onto such a destructive path. Take me for example. If you think for a moment that the lure of a beautiful, sweet smelling, sweet tasting young lady with a perfectly shaped ass, breasts, and a personality to boot, a girl that will let me bust one off in her ass and then DT me to a second orgasm down her beautiful throat, you would be wrong. No, that is not me. I would never drive an hour in one direction in pursuit of a fresh piece of ass. I would not wait in a parking lot for an hour or more waiting for my soon to be latest conquest to finish with the piece of shit John she is currently banging so she can accommodate me. Unprotected sex? I would not consider it. Take time off work for a mid day rendevous? No way. Run a little short on money to pay bills this month to accommodate a $250 donation to a good cause? Never! Catch an STD? Will never happen to me. Wife finds out about my hobby? Arrest? Fired from job? We can deny it all day long, but many of us are in fact addicts. And to be sure, the addiction, is potentially no less of a problem than that of alcohol, crystal meth, heroin and the many others. Hell, like me, I would bet you are familiar with a couple of mongers that have been exposed in this hobby and have chosen the easy way out! Sickeningly sad, but true. Until one hits bottom, recognizes that their lives are being destroyed by the addiction and actually reaches out for help, I fear there is little that can be done. Intervention, therapy and rehabilitation just do not work if the addict is not a willing participant. I've administered narcan intravenously to several addicts brought into local emergency rooms in drug induced comas. The reversal effect is almost immediate and dramatic. Have had the same individuals present to the ER a week later with the same problem. Some don't make it. Never a pretty site. One can counsel all day long about the consequences of our choices, but until another wants and is willing to listen we cannot help. We will never eradicate this age old problem. If every one on this forum quit the hobby today we would probably not put a dent in most providers business, but I do wonder. For me personally, I know I can not solve all the woes of the world. Where I differ from many though, is I believe in my heart if I can make a difference for even one person, whether it be a patient, a provider, or a monger, it is time and effort well spent. I would like to think I could make better choices, and encourage providers to do the same. You know exactly what I am talking about. I have been a hobbiest for about 45 years now, and I still find myself saying the same things. I need to make better choices and encourage providers to do the same. One thing I have committed to doing based on recent events is to walk from providers that are high or drunk. If drug paraphernalia are present in the room I am going to walk. If big brother is lurking I am going to walk. If the provider has a hint of recent track marks I am going to walk. If uncovered services are offered to me I might just walk. The last one for me poses significant challenge. Will just have to see where it goes. Having said all that, I am not ready to leave the hobby. It has always been an adrenaline rush for me, a high in its own right. I love the variety, the challenge, and all the obvious perks associated with being in the presence of an uninhibited provider. We are all dogs JD and far too many of us just cannot help ourselves. I would argue it is in our nature. Like you though I am a bit sickened by the recent passing of some of our old "young" friends. Fuck! To think I could have contributed even an iota is nauseating. That said, I am so fucking pissed that Aubri's voicemail box is full. I so want to rest my balls on her beautiful chin. I am a sick fuck. At least I acknowledge it.
Yeah that and I tell them they'll never feel my tiny dick. LOL JD.LOL. And when they are in my hot tub, I tell them I swear if I take it out, you will sink.
Member #5069
07-22-16, 12:20
Good discussion on STD's. I'll add my two cents by saying that I read that certain std's have a certain % of people where you are asymptomatic. Meaning you have it and NO SYMPTOMS. As for me I'm weighing doing a bi-annual test just for the hell of it.I have read that as well. Which is why I don't BB ANYONE! Anything you can get from oral will show up in a few days. Also, very selective and do not partake of many girls.
Member #5069
07-23-16, 05:33
White knighting does not work for mongers because it is inherently hypocritical. Once you stick your dick inside her for money, you lose all moral authority with her and just become another person with whom she has to do unpleasant things in order to pay for xyz. All the emotional angst that you experience over this isn't going to change that, nor is trying to take the moral high ground with a girl after you have already paid her for sex. So the only truly effective choices you have are to: (1) get over it; or (2) stop mongering. There is no such thing as the noble pervert and running that act with these girls just makes things that much more difficult for them.
I do not post much here, but I have been paying strippers for sex for 15+ years and have long since reconciled myself to these realities. For me, these girls are grown adults who make their own choices. We really have no control over how they spend our money once they earn it and even some of the "clean" looking girls have habits, pimps, etc. Now I also avoid girls who looked fucked up, have track marks or have visible pimps, but that is purely for my own safety. I am not enough of a hypocrite to take the twisted moral position where I object to enabling bad behavior when I see it, but am perfectly fine with doing so when I don't.
Oh, and as you continue to cope with your guilt over enabling girls to do bad things by paying them for sex, ask yourself this: Would they be better off without that money? They may be paying for bad habits, but they also pay for housing, food, transportation, etc. Are you making their lives better by withholding that money?
Just a few things to think about.BBear seams to be conflicted about his involvement with these women. I see many guys on here state they try and counsel these women, trying to be there friends and trying to help them, all while paying them to play. Either stop being engaging in this, or get over it. You're a grown man for goodness sake. LOL.
Member #5173
07-23-16, 20:17
White knighting does not work for mongers because it is inherently hypocritical. Once you stick your dick inside her for money, you lose all moral authority with her and just become another person with whom she has to do unpleasant things in order to pay for xyz. All the emotional angst that you experience over this isn't going to change that, nor is trying to take the moral high ground with a girl after you have already paid her for sex. So the only truly effective choices you have are to: (1) get over it; or (2) stop mongering. There is no such thing as the noble pervert and running that act with these girls just makes things that much more difficult for them.
I do not post much here, but I have been paying strippers for sex for 15+ years and have long since reconciled myself to these realities. For me, these girls are grown adults who make their own choices. We really have no control over how they spend our money once they earn it and even some of the "clean" looking girls have habits, pimps, etc. Now I also avoid girls who looked fucked up, have track marks or have visible pimps, but that is purely for my own safety. I am not enough of a hypocrite to take the twisted moral position where I object to enabling bad behavior when I see it, but am perfectly fine with doing so when I don't.
Oh, and as you continue to cope with your guilt over enabling girls to do bad things by paying them for sex, ask yourself this: Would they be better off without that money? They may be paying for bad habits, but they also pay for housing, food, transportation, etc. Are you making their lives better by withholding that money?
Just a few things to think about.I have been called many things in life, but as far as being a white knight is concerned, this is a first. Perhaps you were making reference to JD. In either case, I am LMAO. I freely admit to being a hypocrite (twisted as you so aptly put it), a pervert, dirtbag, sleazebag and many other expletives you might can think up; am quite guilty when it comes to saying or recommending one thing but doing the exact opposite. No apologies! I might argue to you though that I am not without a conscience. The purpose of my post was to respond to a question and concern expressed by a fellow monger. And I thought posting in the public forum would be most appropriate; perhaps provide food for thought for some, and most certainly illicit responses from others such as yourself. You might have noticed that several current posts pertain to the recent deaths of several providers; some of us are saddened by this. These are young ladies that some of us have known to one degree or another, and have developed relationships with over the years. Despite the choices these girls make, for some of us, we grieve over their loss. Yes, for some of us mongers, despite our misgivings, we retain a modicum of humaneness and decency. When someone we care about passes away we grieve, and we are left with questions. It may appear oxymoronic to you, but it is nonetheless the case. There are not necessarily right or wrong answers. In some cases there are no answers at all. I do take issue with your suggestion, however, that we in the hobby who experience remorse (which you refer to as guilt) are resigned to two choices in our approach to the hobby and suggest it is perhaps a bit narrow minded and short sighted. You are nonetheless entitled to your opinion. You will never find me attacking your character or judgment for sharing those opinions on this forum. I would argue though there are many methods as to how and why we in the hobby conduct ourselves. Bottom line is we are all a little fucked up; some of us perhaps more so than others. This hobby is all about choices. I admit to being quite concerned about the growth of crime and violence in the Jacksonville area over the past couple of years, and the increasing role the drug trade and drug abuse contribute to those crime rates. Consequently my approach to the hobby has been and will continue to be modified. Truth be told, I try to not to concern myself with how a provider chooses to spend their money. I do, however, have the opinion that if I am going to pay to play, the service I am provided should meet my requirements and expectations. In business, if an employee of mine comes to work drunk, high, filthy, reeking of hell knows what, cannot show on time, makes excuse after excuse as to why they cannot perform their job, and despite my best efforts to bend over backwards to get them on track they continue on their reckless path, I am going to fire them. And because my moral compass is so fucked up, I might even feel bad about it later, but that is the bottom line. I did note in your post you have been paying strippers for sex for 15 plus years. Many of us on this forum would consider you a newbie. I would submit if you are going to continue in the hobby there is much for you to learn. I have been in the hobby for a paltry 45 plus years and I have not learned shit yet. Do know this, when it comes to this forum, I will continue to share opinions, make recommendations, post reviews on providers, and do what it takes to keep this hobby safe for all mongers. Read them or not; agree with them or not. You know as well as me, opinions are like assholes, we all have one.
Member #5173
07-23-16, 20:22
BBear seams to be conflicted about his involvement with these women. I see many guys on here state they try and counsel these women, trying to be there friends and trying to help them, all while paying them to play. Either stop being engaging in this, or get over it. You're a grown man for goodness sake. LOL.I appreciate your sage words of wisdom and advice. As I find myself approaching the verge of beyond help, may I ask that you take a moment and pray for me.
This Blows
07-23-16, 21:12
I believe there are times that all of us hate ourselves for the things we have done and continue to do in this hobby or even the things that we think we should have done differently. That being said, we should not beat ourselves up about whatever it is that we think we did wrong. Most of these women live a tragic fucked-up existence and were broken inside long before we ever met them. That doesn't mean that we can't still see them as real people, but we should remember why we go to them in the first place. To get fucked! Plain and simple. We don't go crazy, waiting hours to see these girls so that we can rescue them or buy them groceries. We put up with all of their bullshit and drama because we need to get fucked or blown or whatever by them. As long as it involves them making us cum, it's all good. It is what it is and we should learn to accept that and be okay with it. It may mess with your head sometimes, but we all make choices in life that we question.
Member #5069
07-24-16, 06:28
I appreciate your sage words of wisdom and advice. As I find myself approaching the verge of beyond help, may I ask that you take a moment and pray for me.And if you want to be genuine that is noble. These women are human beings, that goes without saying. I mentioned you being conflicted simply because you seem to genuinely care about some of these women and their well being, all the while enabling them by paying them to have sex. No judgement being passed by me at all. Just an observation.
Rick Dugan
07-24-16, 09:38
I believe there are times that all of us hate ourselves for the things we have done and continue to do in this hobby or even the things that we think we should have done differently. That being said, we should not beat ourselves up about whatever it is that we think we did wrong. Most of these women live a tragic fucked-up existence and were broken inside long before we ever met them. That doesn't mean that we can't still see them as real people, but we should remember why we go to them in the first place. To get fucked! Plain and simple. We don't go crazy, waiting hours to see these girls so that we can rescue them or buy them groceries. We put up with all of their bullshit and drama because we need to get fucked or blown or whatever by them. As long as it involves them making us cum, it's all good. It is what it is and we should learn to accept that and be okay with it. It may mess with your head sometimes, but we all make choices in life that we question.I hear you and Bear too, but I think that my experiences in sourcing pay for pussy primarily from strippers has given me a different view on this topic. I also believe that where I have done a lot of my pay for pussy, a high % of it in the northeast before I moved down here a few years ago, also colors my views.
There is nothing inherently destructive about paying a girl for sex. There are many girls that do it for a variety of reasons. In my former locale, my pay for pussy partners were predominantly (1) single mothers trying to provide for their children; and (2) girls from overseas trying to send money back to their families. I picked these girls up in strip clubs and my payments to them were supplemental to what they made in the clubs. I also travel a bit and most of the same has held true with the girls that I sourced from clubs in other cities, including places on the Left Coast, TX and the Midwest. These arrangements were simple, fun, and clean all around. The worst intoxicant that my partners were on was generally alcohol or maybe a little weed.
It was not until I moved down here that I saw the hard core drug element so infused with the pay for pussy market. I never pick up SWs and rarely dial BP girls, so I might have seen it more up north and in other areas if I did so. But here in J'ville it has also bled heavily into the strip clubs too, where of course I source most of my action. It has been depressing and a lot harder to find the right partners than it was in my former haunts, so I do understand where you guys are coming from.
But my ultimate point is that, in my humble opinion, this angst and guilt felt by some of you is misplaced. These girls were fucked up long before you met them and nothing you will do, for the reasons I discussed before, will change that. Paying them for sex is not the problem and there are plenty of girls who build good lives, or accomplish necessary things, by selling sex. So with all due respect to our salty 45 year vet, I think his long time doing this in J'ville with BP and other problem providers has made him a little myopic. Also, even a guy with my paltry 15 year history understands that trying to "help" girls who don't want that help, especially from mongers, is both pointless and actually makes things more difficult for them. In this newbie's humble opinion, the best that we can do, short of ending our monger careers and setting up outreach programs instead, is to treat them kindly when we deal with them and, of course, pay our tabs.
I hear you and Bear too, but I think that my experiences in sourcing pay for pussy primarily from strippers has given me a different view on this topic. I also believe that where I have done a lot of my pay for pussy, a high % of it in the northeast before I moved down here a few years ago, also colors my views.
There is nothing inherently destructive about paying a girl for sex. There are many girls that do it for a variety of reasons. In my former locale, my pay for pussy partners were predominantly (1) single mothers trying to provide for their children; and (2) girls from overseas trying to send money back to their families. I picked these girls up in strip clubs and my payments to them were supplemental to what they made in the clubs. I also travel a bit and most of the same has held true with the girls that I sourced from clubs in other cities, including places on the Left Coast, TX and the Midwest. These arrangements were simple, fun, and clean all around. The worst intoxicant that my partners were on was generally alcohol or maybe a little weed.
It was not until I moved down here that I saw the hard core drug element so infused with the pay for pussy market. I never pick up SWs and rarely dial BP girls, so I might have seen it more up north and in other areas if I did so. But here in J'ville it has also bled heavily into the strip clubs too, where of course I source most of my action. It has been depressing and a lot harder to find the right partners than it was in my former haunts, so I do understand where you guys are coming from.
But my ultimate point is that, in my humble opinion, this angst and guilt felt by some of you is misplaced. These girls were fucked up long before you met them and nothing you will do, for the reasons I discussed before, will change that. Paying them for sex is not the problem and there are plenty of girls who build good lives, or accomplish necessary things, by selling sex. So with all due respect to our salty 45 year vet, I think his long time doing this in J'ville with BP and other problem providers has made him a little myopic. Also, even a guy with my paltry 15 year history understands that trying to "help" girls who don't want that help, especially from mongers, is both pointless and actually makes things more difficult for them. In this newbie's humble opinion, the best that we can do, short of ending our monger careers and setting up outreach programs instead, is to treat them kindly when we deal with them and, of course, pay our tabs.So let me get this straight.
The infusion of drugs has permeated the local market that extends into Strip Clubs, resulting in higher incidence of of criminal behavior as evidenced by arrest records, obituaries, and anecdotal information (such as social media). However, your rationalization is that as mongers we aren't complicit because:
1. We aren't certain what the proceeds from "pay for sex" go, and / or.
2. They were broken to begin with.
Did I get that right? If so. Then in IMHO, your delusional.
Each of us bears the responsibilities for our actions. The primary, secondary and tertiary consequences including the enabling of behavior that includes but not limited to, addiction, incarceration and even death. That is part of this hobby. You either push through or you don't.
I'm also thin skinned about judging, because providers and mongers represent each side of the same coin. One group cannot exist without the other. And for me, the act of disdainfully judging a provider is akin to calling your twin brother ugly.
So BearB, like so many others, has reached a crossroad. You either enjoy the hunt for pussy and accept its ugliness or you give it up.
Risk adversely selects the reckless and uniformed
j4me
JTb Monger
07-24-16, 12:02
I have certainly become more careful the past few months. The reason is I became pretty surprised how many providers encouraged me to go BB. My thought was, as BearB mentioned, how many of my monger bros and these providers are spreading Gono and Chlamydia around. A monger bro in confidence told me that he caught an STD and his balls got swollen up! He said it was painful and even had blood in his semen! He also mentioned how some of these STDs are becoming resistant to antibiotics.
I am now managing my risk Vs reward scenario a bit better. Not preaching to anyone, as everyone makes their own choices and lives with the consequences.We will begin to see a drastic increase in STI and std out there. The health department (where many of these girls get treated) has moved from a 20 dollar no insurance fee to a 300 dollar fee making the antibiotics and testing that many could get regularly unaffordable, or too competitive monetarily with their primary hobby. I'm willing to bet the rates of infection skyrocket. Many providers have said when they get a discharge they now have to carefully plan the treatment and service extra clients leading up to the appointment so they have enough to get the treatment. This is a real step backwards for us and our safety. I too have noticed the dreaded BB that seemed to be a rarity is now offered almost as a normal thing from some providers. Stay safe out there guys!
Rick Dugan
07-24-16, 12:05
So let me get this straight.
The infusion of drugs has permeated the local market that extends into Strip Clubs, resulting in higher incidence of of criminal behavior as evidenced by arrest records, obituaries, and anecdotal information (such as social media). However, your rationalization is that as mongers we aren't complicit because:
1. We aren't certain what the proceeds from "pay for sex" go, and / or.
2. They were broken to begin with.
Did I get that right? If so. Then in IMHO, your delusional.
Each of us bears the responsibilities for our actions. The primary, secondary and tertiary consequences including the enabling of behavior that includes but not limited to, addiction, incarceration and even death. That is part of this hobby. You either push through or you don't.
I'm also thin skinned about judging, because providers and mongers represent each side of the same coin. One group cannot exist without the other. And for me, the act of disdainfully judging a provider is akin to calling your twin brother ugly.
So BearB, like so many others, has reached a crossroad. You either enjoy the hunt for pussy and accept its ugliness or you give it up.
Risk adversely selects the reckless and uniformed
j4meThen by your logic, if a Walmart employee uses part of her paycheck to feed a drug habit, then Walmart is an enabler too. It just doesn't make sense.
Then by your logic, if a Walmart employee uses part of her paycheck to feed a drug habit, then Walmart is an enabler too. It just doesn't make sense.
Yep
Let say Walmart employees exhibited addiction rates of 80-90%, which resulted in much higher death rates, say nothing of the other broader societal issues. Lets say, you could watch in "real time" their physical deterioration. Lets say the primary (if not exclusive) source of income is derived by the sales from a very narrow product set wad highly correlated to the well being of their employees. Such that: Walmart Sales to Employee Pay to drug addiction, incarceration, and even death.
How might that affect your patronage of Walmart? Some might (say BearB) decide that the total cost (nominal and real) exceed the benefit. He may not derive the same benefit at Target or Sears, but hey sleeps better at night. Or he can push through it and decide that given the benefits Walmart is the place for him.
(BTW BearB best of luck in your decision. But like so many others, the "hunger always returns".)
It's a choice we all have to make.
My point is that the cause and effect are highly correlated, and to suggest otherwise seems to me like saying. It isn't a duck. Even though it quacks, waddles, and looks like a duck.
Its a fuckin' duck.
Don't believe me. Try compensating a provider with clothes and / or food, rather than hard cash. And see how quickly your status with her drops. Just sayin'.
Risk adversely selects the reckless and uniformed.
My last post on this subject. And Rick D I appreciate your comments on this matter. In a way it helped me with my own clarity on this issue. Thank you.
J4 me.
Despite a great wariness of self-revelation in a public fuck forum, I simply must wade into the swamp of monger moral philosophy. Like my brother bruin, I also lean in the direction of Socrates' "the unexamined life is not worth living". (And look where it got him.) I think about this shit too. I've said it before: when it comes to moral culpability of mongering, maybe you don't want to think about it too hard.
That may be particularly difficult for those engaged in professions with a perceived moral basis higher than that of simply turning a buck & making a living. Basically, from a traditional, simplistic perspective, how does one simultaneously do the work of the angels while playing with demons?
I really try to have no illusions about all this. I do try to relate to providers as the kind, compassionate, decent guy I am while recognizing that, at least in some cases, I am doing them no real favor in buying what they are selling. I try not to be a sucker for a hustle, not entirely successfully, mostly because I really don't mind a request to pick up food or give her a ride if I've got time to do it & we have an established relationship. I don't confuse the weird visceral affinity that fucking produces with actual emotional bonding, though I do understand why many folks don't make that distinction.
Compartmentalization & rationalization are probably important skills here. I have honed those skills through self-bargaining, from making deals with myself. For example, I really do prefer sticking with married / committed providers who are happy swingers and / or self-described nymphos who enjoy having fun for money. There really are unicorns out there & I hunt them hard.
Also, I was enough of an outlaw back in the day to learn how to walk the wild side while avoiding the thornier thickets of introspection & moral discomfort. But enough about that.
As to the question of whether one's mongering has led you into a dangerous moral morass, ask yourself a simple question: can you walk away? As anybody who has ever worked a 12-step program can tell you, if you think you have a problem, you do. And if you want to know for sure, see if you can stop.
WhiteNite2000
07-24-16, 18:22
It would be one of my most greatest accomplishments! It is so much easier to hit it and move on rather than deal with these crazy ass relationships in our private lives. I've been doing this long enough and it's about time I make a better effort. Anyway, here's to putting your best foot forward!
Apparently JSO has been conducting in-call stings on providers as of yesterday, so be extra careful in case you are heading to one & they might be monitoring the in-call locations. Just got a message from a provider who was informed by one that was recently scooped.
Apparently JSO has been conducting in-call stings on providers as of yesterday, so be extra careful in case you are heading to one & they might be monitoring the in-call locations. Just got a message from a provider who was informed by one that was recently scooped.Yeah, looking at some arrests for the past few days something is def up! Thanks for heads up!
Apparently JSO has been conducting in-call stings on providers as of yesterday, so be extra careful in case you are heading to one & they might be monitoring the in-call locations. Just got a message from a provider who was informed by one that was recently scooped.Just where did you hear about the incall stings? I am very curious how that went down exactly. Any more info. Would be appreciated.
Not My Job
07-25-16, 09:21
Yeah, looking at some arrests for the past few days something is def up! Thanks for heads up!Yes, looking at JSO's intake sheet shows they were even working on Saturday. But so far it's only the ladies, not their clients (not yet anyway).
NMJ.
Rick Dugan
07-25-16, 10:46
If you are shopping in a marketplace where the addiction rates are really as high as 80-90% and it truly bothers you so much, then maybe you should draw them from a different pool. I do (as I discussed amply below), which is why I am not confronted with this as much and perhaps makes my perspective different. As I said before, selling sex is not inherently destructive and plenty of girls who do so use the money for legitimate purposes, including supporting kids and extended family in other places.
But with all of that said, do some % of the girls that I pay for sex have addictions and just hide them well? I wouldn't be surprised. But at the end of the day, each person has the free will to make his or her own choices and she has as much free will as I do. It is utter "the world revolves around me" hubris to believe that any one of us is going to change the choices that these girls make, whether by offering a payment for sex or not. Seriously now, do you really believe that your $60 QV payment is the difference between whether a girl goes on to be a Rhodes Scholar or instead sucks your dick for a fix? And sure, maybe she has a harder time paying for her fix if you decide to boycott prostitutes, but it also makes it harder for her to buy her next meal and to keep a roof over her head. How exactly would that help her?
Oh, and to get ahead of the next "but I don"t want to contribute to the problem" argument, which is an extension of the theory that this would all go away if we all stopped buying, I say bullshit. For starters, it is an irrelevant point as guys have been buying sex since forever and that will never stop, so whether you "contribute" or not is meaningless in the broader scheme of things. Perhaps as important though, this assumes that many, if not most, of these girls would not find some other means of accomplishing the same ends, which is a goofy assumption to make.
This is not rationalization, but rather simple common sense. In my humble opinion, seeing it this way just requires one to shake off the arrogant and false belief that he has the power to influence these girls' choices, along perhaps with whatever latent guilt he carries around with him about the morality of paying for sex in the first place.
Anyway, just my two cents for what it's worth and this will be my last post on this matter as anything else I say will just be repetitive.
Yep
Let say Walmart employees exhibited addiction rates of 80-90%, which resulted in much higher death rates, say nothing of the other broader societal issues. Lets say, you could watch in "real time" their physical deterioration. Lets say the primary (if not exclusive) source of income is derived by the sales from a very narrow product set wad highly correlated to the well being of their employees. Such that: Walmart Sales to Employee Pay to drug addiction, incarceration, and even death.
How might that affect your patronage of Walmart? Some might (say BearB) decide that the total cost (nominal and real) exceed the benefit. He may not derive the same benefit at Target or Sears, but hey sleeps better at night. Or he can push through it and decide that given the benefits Walmart is the place for him.
(BTW BearB best of luck in your decision. But like so many others, the "hunger always returns".)
It's a choice we all have to make.
My point is that the cause and effect are highly correlated, and to suggest otherwise seems to me like saying. It isn't a duck. Even though it quacks, waddles, and looks like a duck.
Its a fuckin' duck.
Don't believe me. Try compensating a provider with clothes and / or food, rather than hard cash. And see how quickly your status with her drops. Just sayin'.
Risk adversely selects the reckless and uniformed.
My last post on this subject. And Rick D I appreciate your comments on this matter. In a way it helped me with my own clarity on this issue. Thank you.
J4 me.
If you are shopping in a marketplace where the addiction rates are really as high as 80-90% and it truly bothers you so much, then maybe you should draw them from a different pool. I do (as I discussed amply below), which is why I am not confronted with this as much and perhaps makes my perspective different. As I said before, selling sex is not inherently destructive and plenty of girls who do so use the money for legitimate purposes, including supporting kids and extended family in other places.
But with all of that said, do some % of the girls that I pay for sex have addictions and just hide them well? I wouldn't be surprised. But at the end of the day, each person has the free will to make his or her own choices and she has as much free will as I do. It is utter "the world revolves around me" hubris to believe that any one of us is going to change the choices that these girls make, whether by offering a payment for sex or not. Seriously now, do you really believe that your $60 QV payment is the difference between whether a girl goes on to be a Rhodes Scholar or instead sucks your dick for a fix? And sure, maybe she has a harder time paying for her fix if you decide to boycott prostitutes, but it also makes it harder for her to buy her next meal and to keep a roof over her head. How exactly would that help her?
Oh, and to get ahead of the next "but I don"t want to contribute to the problem" argument, which is an extension of the theory that this would all go away if we all stopped buying, I say bullshit. For starters, it is an irrelevant point as guys have been buying sex since forever and that will never stop, so whether you "contribute" or not is meaningless in the broader scheme of things. Perhaps as important though, this assumes that many, if not most, of these girls would not find some other means of accomplishing the same ends, which is a goofy assumption to make.
This is not rationalization, but rather simple common sense. In my humble opinion, seeing it this way just requires one to shake off the arrogant and false belief that he has the power to influence these girls' choices, along perhaps with whatever latent guilt he carries around with him about the morality of paying for sex in the first place.
Anyway, just my two cents for what it's worth and this will be my last post on this matter as anything else I say will just be repetitive.But I hate Mondays. I'm in a crabby mood. So apologies for responding.
Let me get this straight. My opinion may be skewed by an adverse sample (I'm selecting from the wrong pool); my hubris neglects to take into account "free will"; and why fight it because it will never go away. Did I get that right.
Ok. Adverse sample. Perhaps, but I don't think so.
Get yourself a legal pad. Every day look at the daily arrest reports for the tri county area. Note names and offenses. Do that for awhile. You may discover a couple of things. First the Jax market is smaller than you might think and its highly interconnected. Girls go from strippers to BP to street walking then back to stripping. In other words, the segments are dynamic. Also the longer the time horizon, the less likely the sampling will be adverse. Why because providers jump across segments. And LEO could give a fuck about market segmentation.
So are my percentages off? . maybe, but the National Average of Drug Abuse among Providers is 70%. And as a well traveled and experienced monger, you even admitted that Jax's drug use among providers is high. I don't think my numbers are materially high. But don't take my word for it. Do your research.
(BTW, the single most important risk mitigant for a providers / hobbyists, maybe be drug use, particularly opiates IMO).
Free Will. I would wager that you (Tricky Dicky) would suck the dick of a donkey to avoid the physically excruciating pain of drug withdrawal. Yep even you. That's the nature of addiction, it robs the addict of free will. They will beg, borrow, steal, and suck the dick of a donkey to avoid the withdrawal. So the notion that these addicted girls have free will. Is absurd. They may have chosen the first time they stuck that needle in their arm. But once the body is addicted. The battle for free will is squarely on the side of addiction. If you've ever had someone in your family who suffers from addiction, then you know.
As for the "its always been here. Its never going away". Rings of "everybody does it so why shouldn't I" bullshit. Like dude, wasn't that debunked in kindergarten, c'Mon.
Look. Your free to do what you want I could give a fuck. But own it. Like don't hide behind flimsy rationalizations. A pussy does that.
A few months ago, some on this forum were leaning into PoniBoi for barebacking chicks. In true PB fashion he crafted a response, a poetic verse that might appear on his headstone. It was classic PB.
But here's the point. PB owned it. I may disagree with his choice to go into battle without a shield, but I respect him for owning it. He knows the risks and consequences. And he sure as shit isn't blaming anyone or anything else. His choice. His outcome.
So dude. Grow a pair.
J4 me.
But I hate Mondays. I'm in a crabby mood. So apologies for responding.
Let me get this straight. My opinion may be skewed by an adverse sample (I'm selecting from the wrong pool); my hubris neglects to take into account "free will"; and why fight it because it will never go away. Did I get that right.
Ok. Adverse sample. Perhaps, but I don't think so.
Get yourself a legal pad. Every day look at the daily arrest reports for the tri county area. Note names and offenses. Do that for awhile. You may discover a couple of things. First the Jax market is smaller than you might think and its highly interconnected. Girls go from strippers to BP to street walking then back to stripping. In other words, the segments are dynamic. Also the longer the time horizon, the less likely the sampling will be adverse. Why because providers jump across segments. And LEO could give a fuck about market segmentation.
So are my percentages off? . maybe, but the National Average of Drug Abuse among Providers is 70%. And as a well traveled and experienced monger, you even admitted that Jax's drug use among providers is high. I don't think my numbers are materially high. But don't take my word for it. Do your research.
(BTW, the single most important risk mitigant for a providers / hobbyists, maybe be drug use, particularly opiates IMO).
Free Will. I would wager that you (Tricky Dicky) would suck the dick of a donkey to avoid the physically excruciating pain of drug withdrawal. Yep even you. That's the nature of addiction, it robs the addict of free will. They will beg, borrow, steal, and suck the dick of a donkey to avoid the withdrawal. So the notion that these addicted girls have free will. Is absurd. They may have chosen the first time they stuck that needle in their arm. But once the body is addicted. The battle for free will is squarely on the side of addiction. If you've ever had someone in your family who suffers from addiction, then you know.
As for the "its always been here. Its never going away". Rings of "everybody does it so why shouldn't I" bullshit. Like dude, wasn't that debunked in kindergarten, c'Mon.
Look. Your free to do what you want I could give a fuck. But own it. Like don't hide behind flimsy rationalizations. A pussy does that.
A few months ago, some on this forum were leaning into PoniBoi for barebacking chicks. In true PB fashion he crafted a response, a poetic verse that might appear on his headstone. It was classic PB.
But here's the point. PB owned it. I may disagree with his choice to go into battle without a shield, but I respect him for owning it. He knows the risks and consequences. And he sure as shit isn't blaming anyone or anything else. His choice. His outcome.
So dude. Grow a pair.
J4 me.After a topic, any topic, is commented on more than twice, I stop reading ANY of the follow-up opinions, arguments, or whatever you want to call them. Also, if a post is longer than a paragraph my limited attention span can't digest it.
The only exception is if someone wants to start a fight thread of how my LARGE penis is stretching out all of the girls! I will read every word!
Rick Dugan
07-25-16, 16:05
I'll ignore the "grow a pair" comment, even in the face of a very melodramatic post no less, and get right to the random points.
Baloney on the notion that addicts don't have free will. She makes a choice every time she brings a needle to her arm. They may take the path of least resistance most times, but that doesn't take away their ability to make alternate choices. Many eventually do. If they commit a crime, they still go to jail because (of course) they are still responsible for their own actions. To say that she loses her free will because you are waving $60 in one had while you hold your dick in the other is ludicrous.
All we really "own" is our own behavior. My responsibility ends at paying her for what she freely provided and treating her kindly in the process.
And please enough with the goofy stats. There is no way to accurately poll this population, which by its very nature is underground. These are probably from the same people who publish those absurdly high human trafficking stats. But even if there was some element of truth in them, I can tell you that a far smaller % of my partners were addicts and that, overall, there are still plenty of girls out there who offer sex for money without drug addiction as the impetus for doing so.
Now having said all of that, I will grant you that the drug problem in Jacksonville is particularly acute and I am well aware of the crossover here between strippers and escorts. Yet even here I am still able to find partners who do not seem to use, though my success rate has not been 100% as a couple have initially fooled me and eventually couldn't keep up the pretense any longer. But did I writhe in emotional pain when I learned that I had been duped or feel like I somehow contributed to some greater problem? Of course not. Their choice to do drugs had nothing to do with me. Now I do try to avoid drug users for health and safety reasons, but that has nothing to do with any absurd moral reasons.
But if you morally superior nanny types feel the need to wallow in some manufactured guilt over something that you really have no control over then have at it. It won't change anything, but I'm sure it will make you feel a little better about yourselves. But please limit your efforts to drug addicted prostitutes. Nanny types all too often feel the need to try to protect others from themselves in all sorts of things, including gun ownership and other individual freedoms.
Now that was really my last post. If you want the last word the floor is yours. :)
But I hate Mondays. I'm in a crabby mood. So apologies for responding.
Let me get this straight. My opinion may be skewed by an adverse sample (I'm selecting from the wrong pool); my hubris neglects to take into account "free will"; and why fight it because it will never go away. Did I get that right.
Ok. Adverse sample. Perhaps, but I don't think so.
Get yourself a legal pad. Every day look at the daily arrest reports for the tri county area. Note names and offenses. Do that for awhile. You may discover a couple of things. First the Jax market is smaller than you might think and its highly interconnected. Girls go from strippers to BP to street walking then back to stripping. In other words, the segments are dynamic. Also the longer the time horizon, the less likely the sampling will be adverse. Why because providers jump across segments. And LEO could give a fuck about market segmentation.
So are my percentages off? . maybe, but the National Average of Drug Abuse among Providers is 70%. And as a well traveled and experienced monger, you even admitted that Jax's drug use among providers is high. I don't think my numbers are materially high. But don't take my word for it. Do your research.
(BTW, the single most important risk mitigant for a providers / hobbyists, maybe be drug use, particularly opiates IMO).
Free Will. I would wager that you (Tricky Dicky) would suck the dick of a donkey to avoid the physically excruciating pain of drug withdrawal. Yep even you. That's the nature of addiction, it robs the addict of free will. They will beg, borrow, steal, and suck the dick of a donkey to avoid the withdrawal. So the notion that these addicted girls have free will. Is absurd. They may have chosen the first time they stuck that needle in their arm. But once the body is addicted. The battle for free will is squarely on the side of addiction. If you've ever had someone in your family who suffers from addiction, then you know.
As for the "its always been here. Its never going away". Rings of "everybody does it so why shouldn't I" bullshit. Like dude, wasn't that debunked in kindergarten, c'Mon.
Look. Your free to do what you want I could give a fuck. But own it. Like don't hide behind flimsy rationalizations. A pussy does that.
A few months ago, some on this forum were leaning into PoniBoi for barebacking chicks. In true PB fashion he crafted a response, a poetic verse that might appear on his headstone. It was classic PB.
But here's the point. PB owned it. I may disagree with his choice to go into battle without a shield, but I respect him for owning it. He knows the risks and consequences. And he sure as shit isn't blaming anyone or anything else. His choice. His outcome.
So dude. Grow a pair.
J4 me.
Member #5069
07-26-16, 07:39
I'll ignore the "grow a pair" comment, even in the face of a very melodramatic post no less, and get right to the random points.
Baloney on the notion that addicts don't have free will. She makes a choice every time she brings a needle to her arm. They may take the path of least resistance most times, but that doesn't take away their ability to make alternate choices. Many eventually do. If they commit a crime, they still go to jail because (of course) they are still responsible for their own actions. To say that she loses her free will because you are waving $60 in one had while you hold your dick in the other is ludicrous.
All we really "own" is our own behavior. My responsibility ends at paying her for what she freely provided and treating her kindly in the process.
And please enough with the goofy stats. There is no way to accurately poll this population, which by its very nature is underground. These are probably from the same people who publish those absurdly high human trafficking stats. But even if there was some element of truth in them, I can tell you that a far smaller % of my partners were addicts and that, overall, there are still plenty of girls out there who offer sex for money without drug addiction as the impetus for doing so.
Now having said all of that, I will grant you that the drug problem in Jacksonville is particularly acute and I am well aware of the crossover here between strippers and escorts. Yet even here I am still able to find partners who do not seem to use, though my success rate has not been 100% as a couple have initially fooled me and eventually couldn't keep up the pretense any longer. But did I writhe in emotional pain when I learned that I had been duped or feel like I somehow contributed to some greater problem? Of course not. Their choice to do drugs had nothing to do with me. Now I do try to avoid drug users for health and safety reasons, but that has nothing to do with any absurd moral reasons.
But if you morally superior nanny types feel the need to wallow in some manufactured guilt over something that you really have no control over then have at it. It won't change anything, but I'm sure it will make you feel a little better about yourselves. But please limit your efforts to drug addicted prostitutes. Nanny types all too often feel the need to try to protect others from themselves in all sorts of things, including gun ownership and other individual freedoms.
Now that was really my last post. If you want the last word the floor is yours. :)Spot on! You cannot protect people from themselves. Truth be told, a persons problems have nothing to do with me or you.
Just curious. How many of you are legitimately concerned about being set up by LEO? I would probably partake in 90% more encounters if I wasn't always thinking of LEO. I know is a concern, just wasn't sure if I'm always overreacting. Just a thought.
Member #5069
07-26-16, 13:21
Just curious. How many of you are legitimately concerned about being set up by LEO? I would probably partake in 90% more encounters if I wasn't always thinking of LEO. I know is a concern, just wasn't sure if I'm always overreacting. Just a thought.If you are having girls come to you and come alone, then the risk of getting into trouble is greatly minimized. Sure it reduces your opportunities with these girls, but most of them are a disappointment anyway.
Just curious. How many of you are legitimately concerned about being set up by LEO? I would probably partake in 90% more encounters if I wasn't always thinking of LEO. I know is a concern, just wasn't sure if I'm always overreacting. Just a thought.My number 1 concern! I play with that concern in mine and how to minimize it.
TomCat4871
07-26-16, 22:39
Anybody recognize this dancer? Social network indicates one more to add to the RIP list. This was apparently a few months back so not recent.
WhiteNite2000
07-26-16, 22:47
Anybody recognize this dancer? Social network indicates one more to add to the RIP list. This was apparently a few months back so not recent.There is a significant uptick in deaths related to drug overdose in our local market. It is up more than 200 percent! See the story in this link:
http://www.news4jax.com/health/heroin-other-painkiller-overdoses-reach-record-high
WhiteNite2000
07-26-16, 23:08
My number 1 concern! I play with that concern in mine and how to minimize it.The adverse repercussions resulting from an arrest can be devastating both personally and professionally. I remember a Mayo hospital doctor trying to meet someone for sex on the internet and how LEO was waiting for him once he got there. Because he wasn't a citizen yet, he was deported back to his country. So many more examples of how folks lives were turned upside down due to P4 P. It's not worth it! It is nothing wrong with being on guard but most importantly, gain a very sound education about the do's and don'ts of this hobby. There is a lot of education out there, even on YouTube. On YouTube, you can put in prostitution sting in your search and you will see real life examples or actual stings going down which will provide a nice educational opportunity. Keep your guard up players!
MouthHunter
07-27-16, 08:41
Had another Od in there yesterday. One of the twigs went overboard. I believe she was ok by the time they were wheeling her out.
Had another Od in there yesterday. One of the twigs went overboard. I believe she was ok by the time they were wheeling her out.I was there for that. The dancer that I was with said the girl had a seizure, fell and hit her face. That's why she had an ice pack on it as they wheeled her out. They said she was feeling sick before she got there.
Rick Dugan
07-27-16, 11:03
Had another Od in there yesterday. One of the twigs went overboard. I believe she was ok by the time they were wheeling her out.This shit really makes me miss mongering in the clubs in the northeast. Sure it is more expensive up there and the girls sometimes make you jump through more hoops before you can coax them out, but I never had to deal with shit like this. The clubs up there generally have little tolerance for visible drug issues, so girls on narcotics didn't last long. The most common intoxicants I normally saw were alcohol, weed and sometimes coke, none of which tended to fuck the girls up so badly or cause the types of drama that heroin or pills seem to bring. Now, each time I do takeout, I have to carefully assess the girl first (without asking directly) to make sure I'm not getting more than I'm bargaining for.
The most disappointing for me was a few years back, when I was taking a raven haired beauty out of Scores. This girl was hot as hell, with an incredible body, and could have worked in any damned club in the country. But eventually she couldn't hide her drug use any longer and was nodding on our way to date locations and at the bar. Fuck, fuck, fuck, this shit is horrible. She eventually ended up at CF for a brief time and then disappeared from the scene altogether. When she was lucid she was bright and as sexy as they come, but near the end she was rarely lucid.
Anyway, enough of my whining, but there it is.
Member #5069
07-27-16, 13:47
The adverse repercussions resulting from an arrest can be devastating both personally and professionally. I remember a Mayo hospital doctor trying to meet someone for sex on the internet and how LEO was waiting for him once he got there. Because he wasn't a citizen yet, he was deported back to his country. So many more examples of how folks lives were turned upside down due to P4 P. It's not worth it! It is nothing wrong with being on guard but most importantly, gain a very sound education about the do's and don'ts of this hobby. There is a lot of education out there, even on YouTube. On YouTube, you can put in prostitution sting in your search and you will see real life examples or actual stings going down which will provide a nice educational opportunity. Keep your guard up players!And I will put it here again. Outcall is the best way to avoid this and have them come alone. The chances of having a problem with LEO under these circumstances are nill. Sure you will see fewer girls, but you will be better off.
This Blows
07-27-16, 22:33
Hey. Has anyone else noticed that BearB has completely disappeared from this site along with all of his posts? He used to PM me almost every day but he hasn't now for many days. And in my Inbox, his name BearB changed a few days ago to his Member #. In his last post, he said "As I find myself approaching the verge of beyond help, may I ask that you take a moment and pray for me. " I thought that he was just being dramatic but I guess whatever bad thing happened, it must have upset him so much that he decided to retire from this hobby. Oh well. We'll miss you BearB.
When a member requests to have their user name retired it gets changed to a #number so that's probably what happened. When we do that their posts become unreadable for a period of time.
A2
WhiteNite2000
07-28-16, 01:59
Lately, I have been having the experience of these girls scheduling sessions knowing full well that "aunt flo" is in town. Last night was certainly no different. I can only speak for me, of course. This is the reason why I don't DATY on these witches. You won't know, in many cases, that aunt flo is in town until it is too late! At some point, I noticed auntie was present and let me tell you, auntie brought her sister, mother, daughter, grand-daughter, and great grandma in town-I'm sure you get the picture. It took me quite a while to get that shit off of me. It was a good thing I bought my own wipes and alcohol with me because all of the towels in her room looked quite dangerous. Amongst other reasons, this is a very good reason I personally wouldn't DATY! These witches (as Poni would say) are as sneaky as they come and I'd hate to be licking on a bloody marry. Anyway, if you get the urge to visit a provider near the town center in an extended stay and the first number in her cell begins with a 5, steer clear for a few days partners until auntie decides to vacate the AO! It was a big mess! Just Nasty!
WhiteNite2000
07-31-16, 09:24
So I have a question for you blue pill users. As you know, recently, I talked about one of many providers who are chronic flakers- those who go comms dark or otherwise. As some may know, the blue pill in America (just one of them) can cost $40-$50. So when you contact a flakey provider like Lisa Love and they FLAKE out on you, what do you do after you've already taken the pill? I mean, a logical response would be that you have a backup plan but as most of you know, the pickings on BP has been magnified lately. So what do you do? Even if you broke the pill in half, you might still lose $20 plus if you can't find that infamous backup provider.
My second question would be, do you think a provider would make an effort to see you, even the more, if you told her that you don't want to take the blue pill unless she is sure she will see you so that you won't have to waste an expensive pill? Do you think this would make a difference? Kind 2 questions here.
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Just curious. How many of you are legitimately concerned about being set up by LEO? I would probably partake in 90% more encounters if I wasn't always thinking of LEO. I know is a concern, just wasn't sure if I'm always overreacting. Just a thought.Look if you're that concerned then become a P411 member. Problem solved. The girls on the site tend to be more expensive. I think of it as paying for insurance. Sure it costs, but you're protected. Just my 2 cents.
So I have a question for you blue pill users. As you know, recently, I talked about one of many providers who are chronic flakers- those who go comms dark or otherwise. As some may know, the blue pill in America (just one of them) can cost $40-$50. So when you contact a flakey provider like Lisa Love and they FLAKE out on you, what do you do after you've already taken the pill? I mean, a logical response would be that you have a backup plan but as most of you know, the pickings on BP has been magnified lately. So what do you do? Even if you broke the pill in half, you might still lose $20 plus if you can't find that infamous backup provider.
My second question would be, do you think a provider would make an effort to see you, even the more, if you told her that you don't want to take the blue pill unless she is sure she will see you so that you won't have to waste an expensive pill? Do you think this would make a difference? Kind 2 questions here.The generic is called sildenafil it is available at several smaller pharmacies around town. Typically I get the smallest pill eg 25 mg at a very low cost and most importantly legally. Googling pharmacies and the generic name will actually help.
Anybody recognize this dancer? Social network indicates one more to add to the RIP list. This was apparently a few months back so not recent.No but was it drug related? Just curious because it seems a few have passed recently for no apparent reason.
Member #5648
08-05-16, 10:55
No but was it drug related? Just curious because it seems a few have passed recently for no apparent reason.Who were the last few dancers to pass due to drugs please?
Stewie Griffin
08-05-16, 11:04
No but was it drug related? Just curious because it seems a few have passed recently for no apparent reason.3 more have passed away this week. 2 girls and 1 guy. And 99.99% are drug related.
Member #5648
08-05-16, 11:06
3 more have passed away this week. 2 girls and 1 guy. And 99.99% are drug related.From clubs or escorts?
Stewie Griffin
08-05-16, 11:14
From clubs or escorts?I know one was a escort, not sure about the other one.
Member #5447
08-05-16, 23:55
I was there for that. The dancer that I was with said the girl had a seizure, fell and hit her face. That's why she had an ice pack on it as they wheeled her out. They said she was feeling sick before she got there.That's Nicole that dance's there supposedly it happened to her before.
John HandCock
08-06-16, 05:04
So I have a question for you blue pill users. As you know, recently, I talked about one of many providers who are chronic flakers- those who go comms dark or otherwise. As some may know, the blue pill in America (just one of them) can cost $40-$50. So when you contact a flakey provider like Lisa Love and they FLAKE out on you, what do you do after you've already taken the pill? I mean, a logical response would be that you have a backup plan but as most of you know, the pickings on BP has been magnified lately. So what do you do? Even if you broke the pill in half, you might still lose $20 plus if you can't find that infamous backup provider.
My second question would be, do you think a provider would make an effort to see you, even the more, if you told her that you don't want to take the blue pill unless she is sure she will see you so that you won't have to waste an expensive pill? Do you think this would make a difference? Kind 2 questions here.I would think the provider doesn't really care about your blue pill. Blue pill usually means more work for them. I would figure they would be less inclined to see you if they know your popping the pill.
WhiteNite2000
08-06-16, 12:40
I would think the provider doesn't really care about your blue pill. Blue pill usually means more work for them. I would figure they would be less inclined to see you if they know your popping the pill.However, if they knew anything at all, they would know many men, starting somewhere in their 40's have some form of erectile dysfunction. I would also imagine that most of the clients they see are also older gentlemen. They'd be quite naïve to think a man in his 50's-70's coming to see them with a dick of steel is not using some enhancements. I've never really heard that taking a blue pill, as someone else mentioned, makes a man take longer to get his release. In fact, that may have more to do with a decrease in testosterone, which occurs with increasing age, than the blue pill. One thing I've thought about with respect to the women who might not want to deal with blue pill guys is that taking the blue pill, in all likelihood, will ensure a hard dick which means they have to give up the pussy. Otherwise, if they are dealing with guys who don't take the blue pill and he has a hard time getting it up or shall I say performing, then she just made a nice piece of change and didn't have to get fucked. Some girls have told me that some guys aren't able to perform during sessions. I can guarantee you that guy won't be getting his money back; well, at least not a large portion of it- if anything at all. Thanks for insight.
Fishguy717
08-06-16, 18:29
However, if they knew anything at all, they would know many men, starting somewhere in their 40's have some form of erectile dysfunction. I would also imagine that most of the clients they see are also older gentlemen. They'd be quite nave to think a man in his 50's-70's coming to see them with a dick of steel is not using some enhancements. I've never really heard that taking a blue pill, as someone else mentioned, makes a man take longer to get his release. In fact, that may have more to do with a decrease in testosterone, which occurs with increasing age, than the blue pill. One thing I've thought about with respect to the women who might not want to deal with blue pill guys is that taking the blue pill, in all likelihood, will ensure a hard dick which means they have to give up the pussy. Otherwise, if they are dealing with guys who don't take the blue pill and he has a hard time getting it up or shall I say performing, then she just made a nice piece of change and didn't have to get fucked. Some girls have told me that some guys aren't able to perform during sessions. I can guarantee you that guy won't be getting his money back; well, at least not a large portion of it- if anything at all. Thanks for insight.Fortunately, I don't need a blue pill for a BP girl. But I do for a full blown escort (there is a BIG difference). And the reason? Because if I'm spending a full hour with a full blown, quality escort, I'm going to want to go 2 rounds. Sometimes I can do that without the blue pill, but if it's a girl I like a lot and want to have a positive, 2 round experience, then the blue pill comes into play. But no, for a one round, BP girl, I'd never take one. At least at this point in my life. We'll see how long that lasts, LOL.
WhiteNite2000
08-06-16, 18:38
Fortunately, I don't need a blue pill for a BP girl. But I do for a full blown escort (there is a BIG difference). And the reason? Because if I'm spending a full hour with a full blown, quality escort, I'm going to want to go 2 rounds. Sometimes I can do that without the blue pill, but if it's a girl I like a lot and want to have a positive, 2 round experience, then the blue pill comes into play. But no, for a one round, BP girl, I'd never take one. At least at this point in my life. We'll see how long that lasts, LOL.Is because if that coochie is raunchy, I would go soft almost immediately and it would be a wrap. With stank pussy, the blue pill helps me hang in there despite. I'd rather stop at that moment but they probably already have my money at that point! LOL; I know, it's a shame but man, these coochies have been quite funky lately!
Member #5209
08-10-16, 12:14
Admin deleted my post on BP advertiser reviews so I guess this is the right forum. I was just wondering what the number of posts is needed before the elite members of this forum consider enough to start sharing information with other senior members? I see a lot of hazing of "newbies " but I have been sharing information via the forum aND pm for nearly 2 years and anytime I ask for info it is met with deafening silence. Only 2 members have actually shared info with me. 1 was senior and 1 was a newbie. Makes me want to just sit on sideline and just use info posted and not even contribute. Thought we were all doing the same thing here.
RegularMem1
08-10-16, 12:34
Admin deleted my post on BP advertiser reviews so I guess this is the right forum. I was just wondering what the number of posts is needed before the elite members of this forum consider enough to start sharing information with other senior members? I see a lot of hazing of "newbies " but I have been sharing information via the forum aND pm for nearly 2 years and anytime I ask for info it is met with deafening silence. Only 2 members have actually shared info with me. 1 was senior and 1 was a newbie. Makes me want to just sit on sideline and just use info posted and not even contribute. Thought we were all doing the same thing here.I totally agree and have posted but probably my posts will also be deleted. I have noted that Fred Zeppelin believes that only seniors should be given sensitive information and that Jayse espouses that only the elite TRUSTED seniors should have that information. Maybe he will give us the requirements for that and a list of the TRUSTED senior members so that we can emulate and kiss up to them. I have found that most of the great information here comes from regular and senior members and I believe that some of the TRUSTED senior members are the arrogant and sarcastic ones: but I can't be sure because no one has identified them. TRUSTED senior whoremongers seems to be an oxymoron to me.
Finally you found the right thread for this stupidity.
Thank you
A2
Admin deleted my post on BP advertiser reviews so I guess this is the right forum. I was just wondering what the number of posts is needed before the elite members of this forum consider enough to start sharing information with other senior members? I see a lot of hazing of "newbies " but I have been sharing information via the forum aND pm for nearly 2 years and anytime I ask for info it is met with deafening silence. Only 2 members have actually shared info with me. 1 was senior and 1 was a newbie. Makes me want to just sit on sideline and just use info posted and not even contribute. Thought we were all doing the same thing here.I don't have a numerical metric, I share on a case-by-case basis based upon my sense of the poster and, of course, whether I have anything to share. We do most of our sharing through reviews, so it really is Job One for newbies to read the forum. Learn to use the search function. Do a little research & you will glean a lot of useful information, certainly enough to answer the ridiculously open-ended questions like, "I am new to Jax, where do I go for a blowjob?" Silly shit like that makes even gentle old souls like me gruff.
RegularMem1
08-10-16, 14:03
I totally agree and have posted but probably my posts will also be deleted. I have noted that Fred Zeppelin believes that only seniors should be given sensitive information and that Jayse espouses that only the elite TRUSTED seniors should have that information. Maybe he will give us the requirements for that and a list of the TRUSTED senior members so that we can emulate and kiss up to them. I have found that most of the great information here comes from regular and senior members and I believe that some of the TRUSTED senior members are the arrogant and sarcastic ones: but I can't be sure because no one has identified them. TRUSTED senior whoremongers seems to be an oxymoron to me.
Finally you found the right thread for this stupidity.
Thank you
A2I can't even post in The Woodshed without a smartass comment. I thought it's ok to post stupidity here.
It is indeed, my "smartass comment" was commenting smartassidly that I was pleased you had finally found the correct thread to put this stupidity because I had to get rid of it on two other threads.
Maybe you might need to find somebody to help you with the big words.
A2
Stewie Griffin
08-10-16, 14:15
I totally agree and have posted but probably my posts will also be deleted. I have noted that Fred Zeppelin believes that only seniors should be given sensitive information and that Jayse espouses that only the elite TRUSTED seniors should have that information. Maybe he will give us the requirements for that and a list of the TRUSTED senior members so that we can emulate and kiss up to them. I have found that most of the great information here comes from regular and senior members and I believe that some of the TRUSTED senior members are the arrogant and sarcastic ones: but I can't be sure because no one has identified them. TRUSTED senior whoremongers seems to be an oxymoron to me.
Finally you found the right thread for this stupidity.
Thank you
A2Some of us members have had get togethers and have dealt with each other long enough that we trust the other person. It is all really a case by case basis. I have been around for probably 10 years or more. We all had to put our time in to earn trust with others. Just because someone is a senior it does not really mean anything. I try to help people but if they ask a question that has been answered on page 2 of reviews I don't bother. And if someone has never posted anything but questions, or posts the same review as someone else it does not lend credibility to them. And all this talk is really silly. Just look at the post about the new guy harrassing the girl. That is why I (we) are very careful who give information to. I am sure I am trusted because of my reviews, my meetings with some of the other members, and my sharing of quality intel when I find it. But just because old school may trust me that does not mean another member such as poni boi does. (names used as example only! But I have dealt with old school for years and years and poni I don't think I have ever interacted with really. Does not mean anything bad, but poni will share his info with someone he knows before he would with me, just as I would share with old school before some others just because I have known him for so long.
There are a ton of girls on backpage to choose from and pages and pages of information on the forums. Not sure why there is so much complaining going on right now. Just because we may have some we keep to ourselves because the girl may prefer that way is no reason to get peoples panties in a wad. We all have or have had someone that was so good even we didn't want to share their information with anyone else. Some of us are actually friends with these girls and we do our best to look out for them. And the last thing we (I) want to do is give someone a girls number that I do not know and can not vouch for and then for things to go wrong. (just like it has recently).
And Fred has very good reasons as to why and who shares information with. Just read the forum.
I think this whole newbies don't get help or information has been beat to death.
Pretty much what Stewie said (I'll just follow his train and let him write all the stuff I would say & save myself the trouble heh).
No, but really some of you are just butthurt because from what I read is that a few of you feel entitled and should be given the info when you ask for it (and I am referring to sharing contact info for UTRs specifically).
Sorry but some of these girls asked specifically to only share their info to someone we feel comfortable with and let's face it most of us have never met face to face so a modicum of trust is fleeting at best here. Say I give you the info and it turns out to be a bad experience, well that blow backs on me and I may be out of a provider that I liked & trusted. This scene is filled with thieves and sketchy characters so finding a provider you are really comfortable with and can leisurely chill with is not common. It has gotten to the point that some of the well-known senior members names are being thrown around by some members (reguular or seniors) to get credibility with some BP providers and when that gets back to them, they have no idea who she is talking about. Some of these UTRs are requiring a designated password from someone who is being referred to them instead of just a forum handle to verify it is a legitimate referral. Silly it has gotten to this point but safety is a top priority for them.
Member #5209
08-10-16, 14:31
I totally agree and have posted but probably my posts will also be deleted. I have noted that Fred Zeppelin believes that only seniors should be given sensitive information and that Jayse espouses that only the elite TRUSTED seniors should have that information. Maybe he will give us the requirements for that and a list of the TRUSTED senior members so that we can emulate and kiss up to them. I have found that most of the great information here comes from regular and senior members and I believe that some of the TRUSTED senior members are the arrogant and sarcastic ones: but I can't be sure because no one has identified them. TRUSTED senior whoremongers seems to be an oxymoron to me.
Finally you found the right thread for this stupidity.
Thank you
A2Its stupid to voice an opinion. Ok.
I totally agree and have posted but probably my posts will also be deleted. I have noted that Fred Zeppelin believes that only seniors should be given sensitive information and that Jayse espouses that only the elite TRUSTED seniors should have that information. Maybe he will give us the requirements for that and a list of the TRUSTED senior members so that we can emulate and kiss up to them. I have found that most of the great information here comes from regular and senior members and I believe that some of the TRUSTED senior members are the arrogant and sarcastic ones: but I can't be sure because no one has identified them. TRUSTED senior whoremongers seems to be an oxymoron to me.
Finally you found the right thread for this stupidity.
Thank you
A2There is no such thing as "TRUSTED". If you feel you can trust an anonymous soul behind a computer screen, then you are just plain stupid and deserve whatever shit flows downhill to you. Everyone on this board myself included, is inherently breaking the law / laws so if that is the type of person that you can trust more power to you. I have had plenty of PM's asking for info and my rule is if it's posted already somewhere I will share, otherwise you are out of luck. Stay safe and clean!
TomCat4871
08-10-16, 23:27
Monger research uncovered this Nicole pic. Not exactly the most appealing. May want to download and magnify that left arm to see what I'm talking about.
WhiteNite2000
08-11-16, 00:31
Monger research uncovered this Nicole pic. Not exactly the most appealing. May want to download and magnify that left arm to see what I'm talking about.How she's getting the amount she's requesting! We talk about not paying former SWers BP prices, yet, she's asking for 100 and getting it! You go girl!
Monger research uncovered this Nicole pic. Not exactly the most appealing. May want to download and magnify that left arm to see what I'm talking about.What were you researching that you needed to dig up an old pic of Nikki that is like February of this year? She looks rough in that pic but she looks healthy now. And has been favorably review often over the past few months. That's all that should matter to a monger.
Rick Dugan
08-11-16, 08:33
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What were you researching that you needed to dig up an old pic of Nikki that is like February of this year? She looks rough in that pic but she looks healthy now. And has been favorably review often over the past few months. That's all that should matter to a monger.I'm thinking that he's thinking that the negative effects of injection drug use don't go away after six months, but I don't actually know anything about her, personally. Just going from that pic.
Not to be told, she either got one helluva pimp Or a friend in high place in this community that keeps her with a steady stream of freshlysuper horny jokers. A suxer is born ever minute. Well back to the shadows I go.
How she's getting the amount she's requesting! We talk about not paying former SWers BP prices, yet, she's asking for 100 and getting it! You go girl!
Not to be told, she either got one helluva pimp Or a friend in high place in this community that keeps her with a steady stream of freshlysuper horny jokers. A suxer is born ever minute. Well back to the shadows I go.What one man won't do, another man will.
BP is full of ex SWans. And there are several current BP girls who have done roadside assistance when it's slow. I used to think that if a provider was walking then she didn't look good enough to BP. That's not the case I learned. I have met several SWans or UTRs would top the majority of Jax BP selection. Also the best thing about not meeting a provider on BP is that they tend to remember you for future sessions. When a monger goes to see a BP girl he is caller number (X) out of (Y) for that day, week, month, etc. But this is just my 2 cents.
You should see the booking photo I have of her with a giant sore on her lip! She's got good reviews and I personally think she is somewhat attractive but that lesion on her upper lip scared me.
Monger research uncovered this Nicole pic. Not exactly the most appealing. May want to download and magnify that left arm to see what I'm talking about.
This has crossed my mind several times so just thought I would share. This rather random forum seemed to be the place.
Many times now I have been in public settings, particularly at concerts in Florida Theater, and while I was standing up jamming along with everybody else, this thought floats through my consciousness: "I wonder how many other mongers are here? Especially any of the ones with whom I regularly communicate?
It is one of those little take-aways from this hobby that make me smile inside. Maybe not quite the way I smile inside when I think of going deep inside a hottie, but still.
Anybody else? (Extra credit if you can identify the band with the song matching the title of this post. That was one of the concerts.).
This has crossed my mind several times so just thought I would share. This rather random forum seemed to be the place.
Many times now I have been in public settings, particularly at concerts in Florida Theater, and while I was standing up jamming along with everybody else, this thought floats through my consciousness: "I wonder how many other mongers are here? Especially any of the ones with whom I regularly communicate?
It is one of those little take-aways from this hobby that make me smile inside. Maybe not quite the way I smile inside when I think of going deep inside a hottie, but still.
Anybody else? (Extra credit if you can identify the band with the song matching the title of this post. That was one of the concerts.).There been times when I've pondered about it myself. W / Mongers coming from all walks, I look at certain people in various settings in (store cashier, college professor, bank teller, etc) & entertain the thought of THAT guy's sextra carricular activity & whether he's one of us. I know of one could be a possibility; someone whom I've actually associated w / professionally. Not going to call him out on it but it kinda puts a sly smirk on my face.
Hell, if some of these providers are or were spouses or ex, cashiers, bank tellers, college whatever then I would say the common swingin dick shmoe could likely be. Why not, right?
Food for thought.
Oh & the answer to your question is: Jethro Tullbear. Now give me my pussy points, TB!
BSHM.
-PB.
Bobb Sledd
08-17-16, 15:49
This has crossed my mind several times so just thought I would share. This rather random forum seemed to be the place.
Many times now I have been in public settings, particularly at concerts in Florida Theater, and while I was standing up jamming along with everybody else, this thought floats through my consciousness: "I wonder how many other mongers are here? Especially any of the ones with whom I regularly communicate?
It is one of those little take-aways from this hobby that make me smile inside. Maybe not quite the way I smile inside when I think of going deep inside a hottie, but still.
Anybody else? (Extra credit if you can identify the band with the song matching the title of this post. That was one of the concerts.).Physiologists may say you have an irrational obsession with the hobby. Fear not brother, you're NOT alone! In my case, I wonder how many of the women present have in the past, are currently, or would in the future sell their wares. And of course, for how much!
There been times when I've pondered about it myself. W / Mongers coming from all walks, I look at certain people in various settings in (store cashier, college professor, bank teller, etc) & entertain the thought of THAT guy's sextra carricular activity & whether he's one of us. I know of one could be a possibility; someone whom I've actually associated w / professionally. Not going to call him out on it but it kinda puts a sly smirk on my face.
Hell, if some of these providers are or were spouses or ex, cashiers, bank tellers, college whatever then I would say the common swingin dick shmoe could likely be. Why not, right?
Food for thought.
Oh & the answer to your question is: Jethro Tullbear. Now give me my pussy points, TB!
BSHM.
-PB.That was much easier than your "Who's Butt Is This?" quiz & a whole lot less interesting! LOL.
And, yep, Bobb, I tell myself that too, especially when I consider how often I log in here just to see what's going on. Actual mongering occupies very little of my time, especially lately. But even when I have been "running wild" (as Angie Loveless once accused me of doing), I don't hold a candle to some of you guys. I'm like Wayne Campbell before Alice Cooper: "I am not worthy!" LOL.
True story: I was once shooting the shit with a couple of clients about something ridiculous like train watching or water polo. I quipped something like, "Well, I guess everybody needs a hobby. " The two guys chuckled & exchanged a glance that said volumes but neither said a word.
I almost tossed in, "Yep, including that one. Especially that one. " Still kind of wish I had. But no, I kept a poker face & played it as if I had not noticed.
I got a text from Jackie yesterday to call her. She was upset at some of the resent review and post about her. Some mongers she said have said things that she feels is vulgar and disrespectful. And personal information and the request for pics is not ok. She asked me if I would remind members that she is or was UTR for a reason. She would have posted a BP ad if she wanted to everyone to know who she is and what she looked like. She decided to be a provider to supplement her income and thought she could do that by seeing members from this site. But it seems things have become a bit too overwhelming for her. She said that she is not like the majority of the other providers who are doing this to maintain a drug habit. She is clean would appreciate that clients use some discretion. She also said that she may have to stick to seeing only a few regulars or getting out of this business altogether.
I told Jackie I would write this for her but she has to put her big girl pants on if she is going to be in this hobby. Mongers are paying for a service anything other than that is beyond P4 P.
Luke Cage668
08-23-16, 01:11
I got a text from Jackie yesterday to call her. She was upset at some of the resent review and post about her. Some mongers she said have said things that she feels is vulgar and disrespectful. And personal information and the request for pics is not ok. She asked me if I would remind members that she is or was UTR for a reason. She would have posted a BP ad if she wanted to everyone to know who she is and what she looked like. She decided to be a provider to supplement her income and thought she could do that by seeing members from this site. But it seems things have become a bit too overwhelming for her. She said that she is not like the majority of the other providers who are doing this to maintain a drug habit. She is clean would appreciate that clients use some discretion. She also said that she may have to stick to seeing only a few regulars or getting out of this business altogether.
I told Jackie I would write this for her but she has to put her big girl pants on if she is going to be in this hobby. Mongers are paying for a service anything other than that is beyond P4 P.Funny thing about that is that it had to be one of your fellow Seniors, us newbies / rookies were not privy to the info as most agreed to keep her from us, not trying to stir the pot but I just find it ironic that what you didn't want to happen happened and it wasn't a newbie.
BigGameJax
08-23-16, 10:40
I got a text from Jackie yesterday to call her. She was upset at some of the resent review and post about her. Some mongers she said have said things that she feels is vulgar and disrespectful. And personal information and the request for pics is not ok. She asked me if I would remind members that she is or was UTR for a reason. She would have posted a BP ad if she wanted to everyone to know who she is and what she looked like. She decided to be a provider to supplement her income and thought she could do that by seeing members from this site. But it seems things have become a bit too overwhelming for her. She said that she is not like the majority of the other providers who are doing this to maintain a drug habit. She is clean would appreciate that clients use some discretion. She also said that she may have to stick to seeing only a few regulars or getting out of this business altogether.
I told Jackie I would write this for her but she has to put her big girl pants on if she is going to be in this hobby. Mongers are paying for a service anything other than that is beyond P4 P.So I read in the woodshed forum that you guys are treating Jackie bad.
The one girl that everyone raves about, you won't share her info with "newbies" yet you experienced people are treating her bad?
Geez that makes sense. Maybe the senior members need to take a step back or she should raise her prices. Plenty of us "wish" we were senior members to join your little Good Ole Boy system.
What a shame.
Member #5648
08-23-16, 11:17
Funny thing about that is that it had to be one of your fellow Seniors, us newbies / rookies were not privy to the info as most agreed to keep her from us, not trying to stir the pot but I just find it ironic that what you didn't want to happen happened and it wasn't a newbie.Where does she work?
Where does she work?Why the hell would you still ask that? None of your damn business.
Funny thing about that is that it had to be one of your fellow Seniors, us newbies / rookies were not privy to the info as most agreed to keep her from us, not trying to stir the pot but I just find it ironic that what you didn't want to happen happened and it wasn't a newbie.Don't forget that there are guys on here think that they are "the shit" and you are absolutely right that the good ole boys club exists. The same guys will come on here and do thier typical attacks when posts like this pop up but don't worry about it. It's like a dog barking, after a while it just turns to white noise. Don't kid yourself if you ever think these guys are respectful towards women, they use them and just throw them away. Jackie made the critical mistake of trusting seniors on here, I just hope she learns a "life lesson" from this. If you meet someone and care about them as a friend outside of being a provider, you keep that info completely private.
Leave it to a fucking douchebag asshole and thier big mouth to screw with someone's life. A big fuck you to whomever did it.
RegularMem1
08-23-16, 12:36
So I read in the woodshed forum that you guys are treating Jackie bad.
The one girl that everyone raves about, you won't share her info with "newbies" yet you experienced people are treating her bad?
Geez that makes sense. Maybe the senior members need to take a step back or she should raise her prices. Plenty of us "wish" we were senior members to join your little Good Ole Boy system.
What a shame.Remember that all seniors aren't in this group. I, personally, don't want to be in this group and wouldn't knowingly give any info to any of them.
Stewie Griffin
08-23-16, 12:40
I got a text from Jackie yesterday to call her. She was upset at some of the resent review and post about her. Some mongers she said have said things that she feels is vulgar and disrespectful. And personal information and the request for pics is not ok. She asked me if I would remind members that she is or was UTR for a reason. She would have posted a BP ad if she wanted to everyone to know who she is and what she looked like. She decided to be a provider to supplement her income and thought she could do that by seeing members from this site. But it seems things have become a bit too overwhelming for her. She said that she is not like the majority of the other providers who are doing this to maintain a drug habit. She is clean would appreciate that clients use some discretion. She also said that she may have to stick to seeing only a few regulars or getting out of this business altogether.
I told Jackie I would write this for her but she has to put her big girl pants on if she is going to be in this hobby. Mongers are paying for a service anything other than that is beyond P4 P.She has told me she did not even want to be reviewed and that was why I was surprised when I saw all the reviews popping up on her. And there is always going to be 1-2 people who ruin it for everyone.
Stewie Griffin
08-23-16, 12:47
Don't forget that there are guys on here think that they are "the shit" and you are absolutely right that the good ole boys club exists. The same guys will come on here and do thier typical attacks when posts like this pop up but don't worry about it. It's like a dog barking, after a while it just turns to white noise. Don't kid yourself if you ever think these guys are respectful towards women, they use them and just throw them away. Jackie made the critical mistake of trusting seniors on here, I just hope she learns a "life lesson" from this. If you meet someone and care about them as a friend outside of being a provider, you keep that info completely private.
Leave it to a fucking douchebag asshole and thier big mouth to screw with someone's life. A big fuck you to whomever did it.Well I want to be in the good ole boy club. LOL I have a few people on here that I have dealt with 5+ years, so I will share more with them than someone I have not dealt with. There is always going to be a dick in the group. And they will always ruin it for everybody else.
And you are way wrong. There are a lot of us who are respectful and treat them right. I have met some of their families, been out to dinner, and just hung out. Some I have known for years. But there are some who treat them like shit. I have heard many a story and the usernames behind the stories. It is disheartning to see what some of the guys text these girls.
Jackie was just over the other day and we were talking about this. Sad.
Has anyone seen this provider? I have seen her several times and she is the best I've had since my ATF stopped doing this years ago? I'm curious why there are no reviews on here of her. I don't partake much as I like to be more selective in the girls I see, and when I find one I like, I stick with her until she disappears, but I have a hard time understanding why she isn't reviewed here. If you don't know who I am talking about, google "Jinni Mixxx". I would post her link but it's down. Any of you guys have any input?
Where does she work?She works at NoneYaDamn Business. Would you like an application?
She has told me she did not even want to be reviewed and that was why I was surprised when I saw all the reviews popping up on her. And there is always going to be 1-2 people who ruin it for everyone.You are so right. It only take one or two selfish mongers to ruin it for the rest. That's the reason Maliyah vanished.
Some of the reviews you've read were at the behest of Jackie. She ONLY wanted the details of the experience with her posted, NOT details of her personal life. She has been inundated with PMs when someone thoughtlessly posted her username thinking it would help her. Some of the of messages she has been getting are way out there. Unfortunately the genie is out of the bottle for her so she is dealing with it the best she can.
MyDarkSide
08-23-16, 16:53
Some of the reviews you've read were at the behest of Jackie. She ONLY wanted the details of the experience with her posted, NOT details of her personal life. She has been inundated with PMs when someone thoughtlessly posted her username thinking it would help her. Some of the of messages she has been getting are way out there. Unfortunately the genie is out of the bottle for her so she is dealing with it the best she can.To me the forum is about *guys connecting* and sharing helpful information. It's not about gnashing teeth about a few additional PMs. She can hit delete.
To me the forum is about *guys connecting* and sharing helpful information. It's not about gnashing teeth about a few additional PMs. She can hit delete.Maybe you should reread which forum you are posting in now.
She had to delete some PM's! Holy shit how is she going to make it through that?
I will never for the life of me understand you guys and "she doesn't want to read about herself here" she wants to make the money doesn't she?
A2.
You are so right. It only take one or two selfish mongers to ruin it for the rest. That's the reason Maliyah vanished.This is funny really, I giggled when I saw all the frenzy about a blowjob. Actually it's more similar to the biggish chick from university / beach that ended up drugged up on PH. Factually Maliyah was much smarter and had a plan coming in. She told me about her plan when she was visiting Jax and other places wayyyy before any post here. Anyway, the money does it not, a few silly post from anonymous mongers. IMO.
PT.
This is funny really, I giggled when I saw all the frenzy about a blowjob. Actually it's more similar to the biggish chick from university / beach that ended up drugged up on PH. Factually Maliyah was much smarter and had a plan coming in. She told me about her plan when she was visiting Jax and other places wayyyy before any post here. Anyway, the money does it not, a few silly post from anonymous mongers. IMO.
PT.I figured you might reply to this post. Great she told you about her plan before any post. I heard it all too and I don't think things went as planned. I'll leave it at that.
Mouth Goddess
08-23-16, 21:00
She had to delete some PM's! Holy shit how is she going to make it through that?
I will never for the life of me understand you guys and "she doesn't want to read about herself here" she wants to make the money doesn't she?
A2.First and foremost I would like to thank everyone for their concerns & comments. I'm a safe. Clean. Fun. & discreet provider offering her services to like-minded gentlemen. The drama needs to stop as I would ask for my personal life not to mentioned in any of my reviews. [Deleted by Admin]
Let me stop you here. I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding about the forum. The forum always has been and always will be a place for men to post about women for sex. It's not, nor is it ever going to be a place for women to tell those men what they should or should not post. I'm sure like most of the providers you won't like this, I've heard that before and I'm sure I'll hear it again.
As far as your privacy is concerned we have a mechanism for that. You can report any post you wish by clicking on the "Report Post" button at the bottom left of any post. When you do it generates a report and sends me a link and I look at it. On the issue of privacy I generally err on the side of the person being spoken about but at times the reports are ridiculous and I do nothing.
I'll give you an example, somebody saying you have a kid is not a violation of your privacy. Somebody describing a kid, even in a general way, is.
So, if "no more drama" is the goal, when there is an issue, use the mechanism in place to deal with it and there won't be.
A2
MyDarkSide
08-23-16, 21:41
She had to delete some PM's! Holy shit how is she going to make it through that?
I will never for the life of me understand you guys and "she doesn't want to read about herself here" she wants to make the money doesn't she?
A2.Exactly. This board balances the exchange of info with some anonymity. No personal info. If a provider chooses to come on here with a screen name, welcome. Read what you want, delete what you don't. Perhaps it's a good thing they know info gets discussed.
Chastising guys for gentlemanly discussions of girls on a forum such as this is ridiculous.
Gustav Klimpt
08-23-16, 21:51
Remember that all seniors aren't in this group. I, personally, don't want to be in this group and wouldn't knowingly give any info to any of them.Doubt any seniors have met Trish.
Has anyone seen this provider? I have seen her several times and she is the best I've had since my ATF stopped doing this years ago? I'm curious why there are no reviews on here of her. I don't partake much as I like to be more selective in the girls I see, and when I find one I like, I stick with her until she disappears, but I have a hard time understanding why she isn't reviewed here. If you don't know who I am talking about, google "Jinni Mixxx". I would post her link but it's down. Any of you guys have any input?Ya right. You just reviewed yourself?
Magik Mike
08-23-16, 22:12
Doubt any seniors have met Trish.Not sure why this is in this thread but I will bite. I am not a senior on here yet, but been mongering for many years and I have known Trish for at least 6 years or more. Lost track of her awhile back after she got pregnant. She was a hot little number back when I knew her, a real trooper but almost too small. But she aimed to please. I would be interested in her contact info if you have it, PM me please. Thanks!
MM.
I figured you might reply to this post. Great she told you about her plan before any post. I heard it all too and I don't think things went as planned. I'll leave it at that.I'm done here, no time to waste on crapping in the bottom with you. BUT, you damn sure don't know me so certainly you were speaking in general. Have a good life playing in your car. FU.
I'm done here, no time to waste on crapping in the bottom with you. BUT, you damn sure don't know me so certainly you were speaking in general. Have a good life playing in your car. FU.Not quite giggling now? I know what I said and who I was talking about. Factually! G. O. M. D.
Has anyone seen this provider? I have seen her several times and she is the best I've had since my ATF stopped doing this years ago? I'm curious why there are no reviews on here of her. I don't partake much as I like to be more selective in the girls I see, and when I find one I like, I stick with her until she disappears, but I have a hard time understanding why she isn't reviewed here. If you don't know who I am talking about, google "Jinni Mixxx". I would post her link but it's down. Any of you guys have any input?My comments from 08/10/16:
Jinni Minxxx.
I received an email from Jinni on Monday that she would be in St. Aug. For a short visit recently (Tuesday) and would I like to meet up with her? Gentlemen, when the Cream of the Cop invites you to visit, there can only be one response. Let it be sufficient to say that both Big Herb and Little Herb parted company with her very, very happy. A planned one hour session turned into an almost 2 hour leisure exploration of the Erotic Arts, and I have asked her to put me on her permanent "Invite" List. I plan to see her any time she is within 50 miles of St. Aug. She advertises only intermittently and only briefly, if at all, but old Ads can be found on Eros (dot) com as a starting point. Jinni, if you read the Boards, thank you for an exceptional time on Tuesday; it truly is all about the Journey, and nice to know that an Old Dog can learn new tricks. Always be safe and well in your travels. See you on your next visit. Herbvette (Rocco).
LuvSoftHands
08-24-16, 05:52
Doubt any seniors have met Trish.I haven't but based on the charming photo I'd love to. PM me contact info?
Ya right. You just reviewed yourself?Not a self post, and not new here. Do you really think a provider with her reputation and her time doing this would self post? You aren't as wise as you are giving yourself credit for. Probably why you are here.
I've heard the condom excuse before and while this may account for a small portion of this epidemic it certainly isn't the only or most prevalent cause. There are many feminine products that help with this situation but I guess it's way to much to ask a provider to but female sanitary products when they often ask you to bring your own protection! JD.I'm far, far, far away hoss and we have the same issue here. I know one chick that is an ABSOLUTE neat freak and she's got one of the worst cases ever.
I might add that I live in a country that has a bidet in every bathroom. They aren't just rinsing, they are washing with water under pressure shooting up.
Maybe the chick this started with is a nasty fuck who never washes her pussy, there's no way I can know, I'll never see her. I know some chicks down here that use some kind of pussy perfume that helps.
Just curious, why wouldn't you always take your own condoms? I always take my own so I can use the ones I prefer.
A2.
WhiteNite2000
09-03-16, 13:20
I'm far, far, far away hoss and we have the same issue here. I know one chick that is an ABSOLUTE neat freak and she's got one of the worst cases ever.
I might add that I live in a country that has a bidet in every bathroom. They aren't just rinsing, they are washing with water under pressure shooting up.
Maybe the chick this started with is a nasty fuck who never washes her pussy, there's no way I can know, I'll never see her. I know some chicks down here that use some kind of pussy perfume that helps.
Just curious, why wouldn't you always take your own condoms? I always take my own so I can use the ones I prefer.
A2.It's a combination of poor self-esteem (people with low esteem issues might not take care of themselves well); OVER use and abuse of the pussy; and condoms and just plain nastiness. As you also know, the USA Is a little tougher on prostitution than they are in what would be considered a 3rd world country (not sure where you are). That said, taking a condom when visiting a provider, who might not be reviewed, might be a problem if it's a LEO setup. We answer ad's where a girl is listed in the escort section (which LEO considers a front for prostitution); money listed in ad or at least discussed at some point, money in hand and a condom would make one look pretty suspect to Mr. LEO, know what I mean? Sometimes the girls ask if we are LEO and afterwards ask us to bring a condom. This is the kind of talk many of us prefer not to have with a known or unknown provider. Sometimes, also, LEOs are hanging around area motels and they will stop you and ask you to state your biz; you might also get frisked and I wouldn't want to have a condom and money on me when I'm going to see a girl who has an ad on BP.
Ok thanks. I'm totally spoiled living in a country, Argentina, where a chicks right to sell, and a guys right to buy pussy is constitutionally protected.
There's 30,000 sex workers in Buenos Aires.
A2
It's a combination of poor self-esteem (people with low esteem issues might not take care of themselves well); OVER use and abuse of the pussy; and condoms and just plain nastiness. As you also know, the USA Is a little tougher on prostitution than they are in what would be considered a 3rd world country (not sure where you are). That said, taking a condom when visiting a provider, who might not be reviewed, might be a problem if it's a LEO setup. We answer ad's where a girl is listed in the escort section (which LEO considers a front for prostitution); money listed in ad or at least discussed at some point, money in hand and a condom would make one look pretty suspect to Mr. LEO, know what I mean? Sometimes the girls ask if we are LEO and afterwards ask us to bring a condom. This is the kind of talk many of us prefer not to have with a known or unknown provider. Sometimes, also, LEOs are hanging around area motels and they will stop you and ask you to state your biz; you might also get frisked and I wouldn't want to have a condom and money on me when I'm going to see a girl who has an ad on BP.
Ok thanks. I'm totally spoiled living in a country, Argentina, where a chicks right to sell, and a guys right to buy pussy is constitutionally protected.
There's 30,000 sex workers in Buenos Aires.
A2Why would carrying a condom be an issue? I thought most people are smart enough in this day and age to carry and utilize protection. I can't believe carrying a condom instantly implies sex is imminent. I would love someone to tell LEO "I practice safe sex, don't you? It seems everywhere you turn someone is handing out condoms. Just my 2 cents.
WhiteNite2000
09-03-16, 20:51
Why would carrying a condom be an issue? I thought most people are smart enough in this day and age to carry and utilize protection. I can't believe carrying a condom instantly implies sex is imminent. I would love someone to tell LEO "I practice safe sex, don't you? It seems everywhere you turn someone is handing out condoms. Just my 2 cents.But remember, I said it's a combination of money, contacting someone advertising in the escort section that you agreed to meet for a certain sum of money can be construed as sex in exchange for money. Look at the whole thing, not merely just carrying a condom. Remember, if it's a legit escort, you're likely fine as long as she isn't a part of the setup, but if it's a sting, it can be incriminating. Juries can put 2&2 together you know.
But remember, I said it's a combination of money, contacting someone advertising in the escort section that you agreed to meet for a certain sum of money can be construed as sex in exchange for money. Look at the whole thing, not merely just carrying a condom. Remember, if it's a legit escort, you're likely fine as long as she isn't a part of the setup, but if it's a sting, it can be incriminating. Juries can put 2&2 together you know.Understood. It makes me wonder how many guys a year get popped and convicted for solicitation here in Jax. You see them in the papers from time to time but it always seems that drugs were involved or it was a streetwalker roundup.
Understood. It makes me wonder how many guys a year get popped and convicted for solicitation here in Jax. You see them in the papers from time to time but it always seems that drugs were involved or it was a streetwalker roundup.If you look from an operations point of view, it is more efficient for LEO to go after providers than mongers, likely why you see much more providers getting round up than the clients. Also probably the most efficient way to tackle the DBs by going after their heavy-use clients.
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09-06-16, 12:02
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Member #5209
09-06-16, 17:08
[Deleted by Admin]
Greetings Everyone,
DirtyDirty1 posted that he/she will no longer be participating in the forum.
Pursuant to Forum Policy, I have deleted this resignation post and retired his/her membership.
Thanks,
Jackson
Gustav Klimpt
09-07-16, 23:41
Phoenix has Van Buren, Oklahoma City has South Robinson, Baltimore has Wilkens Ave, Orlando has OBT, DC used to have 14th street and Philly has the "K". Curious as to why Phillips came to become a hooker trail. Any historians out there? I've been to all cities mentioned and the faces change but the look remains the same.
Phoenix has Van Buren, Oklahoma City has South Robinson, Baltimore has Wilkens Ave, Orlando has OBT, DC used to have 14th street and Philly has the "K". Curious as to why Phillips came to become a hooker trail. Any historians out there? I've been to all cities mentioned and the faces change but the look remains the same.When Jacksonville used to be called Cowford, US-1 (PH) was a main route for cattle herders to take their stock and cross over to the north side of the river (vicinity Main St Bridge) so they are able to graze in greener pastures. Back then St Johns river was shallow enough where cows were able to cross (ford over) hence the name "Cowford". This made for businesses to be developed along this fareway and of course along w / developement you have prosperity. But also you have the dreggs and crimes of developement as well. Over time the city constructed other routes (such as US- 17, I-95, A1 A) resulting in the expansion of Cowford. As it grew, commerce did also. More idealistic areas were being sought & businesses either moved or shut down along what is now PH.
When all said & done those who were unable to transition or unable to develope stayed along the PH corridor leaving behind w / them such dreggs & crime. This was a fertile place for SWans, pimps, drug peddlers & the likes. Not to say that other areas don't have them now but PH being one of the original supply routes became notorious for breeding such oranisms.
Areas such as the plot of the land where the trailer parks sit across from Wally World is most likely remnence of a once prosperous entity but had succumbed to the failures of PH. Within & around these shanty areas breeds & brews the SWans, pimps, & dopeboys that we all know of today.
But that's just my educated guess. I could simply be just talkin out of my ass.
BSHM.
-PB.
Ya right. You just reviewed yourself?No way a self review. Just not the way Jinni operates. It's a rare day when Jinni even reads this board. What would make you suggest a self review?
Gustav Klimpt
09-13-16, 20:50
When Jacksonville used to be called Cowford, US-1 (PH) was a main route for cattle herders to take their stock and cross over to the north side of the river (vicinity Main St Bridge) so they are able to graze in greener pastures. Back then St Johns river was shallow enough where cows were able to cross (ford over) hence the name "Cowford". This made for businesses to be developed along this fareway and of course along w / developement you have prosperity. But also you have the dreggs and crimes of developement as well. Over time the city constructed other routes (such as US- 17, I-95, A1 A) resulting in the expansion of Cowford. As it grew, commerce did also. More idealistic areas were being sought & businesses either moved or shut down along what is now PH.
When all said & done those who were unable to transition or unable to develope stayed along the PH corridor leaving behind w / them such dreggs & crime. This was a fertile place for SWans, pimps, drug peddlers & the likes. Not to say that other areas don't have them now but PH being one of the original supply routes became notorious for breeding such oranisms.
Areas such as the plot of the land where the trailer parks sit across from Wally World is most likely remnence of a once prosperous entity but had succumbed to the failures of PH. Within & around these shanty areas breeds & brews the SWans, pimps, & dopeboys that we all know of today.
But that's just my educated guess. I could simply be just talkin out of my ass.
BSHM.
-PB.Thanks for the history lesson.
Gustav Klimpt
09-13-16, 22:07
I haven't but based on the charming photo I'd love to. PM me contact info?I would but think she moved on.
UWishUWereMe
09-15-16, 00:28
Why would a fellow monger effing in the same circle as another monger try to put down first monger with said girls. Shit dude we both paying to play and if my game is a little stronger than yours so be it. Please stop downing me cause it's all coming right back to me. You know who you are as you know my name is uwishuwereme. Maybe you do wish. Ijs.
It's on the right thread but to answer you're question it's because they are pathetic excuses for men desperately trying to curry favor with hookers in hopes that they might like them.
A2
UWishUWereMe
09-15-16, 14:53
Why would a fellow monger effing in the same circle as another monger try to put down first monger with said girls. Shit dude we both paying to play and if my game is a little stronger than yours so be it. Please stop downing me cause it's all coming right back to me. You know who you are as you know my name is uwishuwereme. Maybe you do wish. Ijs.
It's on the right thread but to answer you're question it's because they are pathetic excuses for men desperately trying to curry favor with hookers in hopes that they might like them.
A2Exactly A2. It's sad actually.
WTF.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/09/16/us/california-today-oakland-prostitution.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0&referer=https://t.co/P2yAGA3Jtk
Doubt any seniors have met Trish.I know Trish very well. Oh yeah, I'm not a senior member! Haha. She's still around. As a matter of fact, I have her new number. Pm me and I'll see if she wants me to give out her digits.
JustACbtGuy
09-17-16, 07:23
WTF.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/09/16/us/california-today-oakland-prostitution.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0&referer=https://t.co/P2yAGA3Jtk"Hey Bill! Can I borrow your car?
Or a new business "Monger Car Rental".
Always opportunities when the government decides to "crack down" on something.
LuckyGandor
09-18-16, 16:56
Heard some rumors today that Jaguar Chris Ivory's mystery illness was swollen testicles. Didn't some Jag players bang our local BP girls namely Jenna? Hehe.
Member #5648
09-18-16, 17:05
Heard some rumors today that Jaguar Chris Ivory's mystery illness was swollen testicles. Didn't some Jag players bang our local BP girls namely Jenna? Hehe.So making 6 & 7 figure income means you should save money on discount pussy? I just don't get that? Why not see females that fuck fewer guys and carry themselves like a HOT DATE versus a cheap fuck that you wouldn't be seen in public with? Don't fuck a girl that you wouldn't be seen with the next morning for breakfast!
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